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What Everyone Gets Wrong About Weight Loss

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59:42 min | 1 year ago

What Everyone Gets Wrong About Weight Loss

"The wake up got everyone's go crush dog teaching on Harry Walker. We're gonna chat, what to expect when trying to lose white Harriet. Welcome aboard. Thank you very much for having me back. Greg, always a pleasure. And what are we gonna talk about today today? We are talking about the ins and outs expectations versus the reality of white loss. And I'm super excited. We got this one. Let's rippin. Rippin. Welcome to the body sides podcast, bringing you, everything you made once and should know about health fitness, nutrition and training as always the inflammation causes, the formation purposes, only and he's not designed to diagnose treat prevent or many any injuries that these or other health related condition. Today's podcast is brought to you by hydroxy burn. Shred, hails and hydroxy, Boone clinical helping you smash your goals in and out of the gym hydroxy burn shred. 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It's, it's a lot of work. I have very rarely gotten into a cab had somebody asks, what I do, and then not be subsequently questioned about how do I lose white? Do they a million dollar industry is the million dollar question? And unfortunately Greg on our heavily answers, but I'm here to help and the big thing here is, you know, it's all going to be about doing it for the right reasons. Yeah. On, so you're not like what is the usual white loss in our that you get thrown at you in a clinical environment? Well, look, I this is my bread and butter. This is what people come to me for. And a lot of nutrition professionals way way very skilled in a lot of different areas aspects of practice, but Whitelaw sees the number one thing that people will ask us for in most cases tough, too, because Dora Titians are sort of against the word. Dr these days, aren't they which takes away favorite of what they actually do like and do you get the lot about weight loss? Well, I think it's important. To dislike knowledge and you'll you'll private to you, not in. Private sitting in sports intrusion. But for the most part, you know, when people think about nutrition automatically, you know, there is a strong association with white laws, but it's important to acknowledge that you can one eight more healthily without having white loss as the number one driver for doing so. And I think that gets lost in the Macy isn't it simple? Just dropped a hundred calories and try not nowhere. Well. My. Opinions on the twelve hundred calorie diet, which we can touch tone in another another toughie, but look the mice stereotypical scenario that I will put together for you. And this is probably, you know, extrapolating a little beat. But look for most pop PayPal being over restrictive, they cutting out whole food groups, they're labeling foods as good bad toxic and Instagram's helping that at all. Oh, there's a few people that appoint nearing the reverse of that. But it is really like people say, all cops bad and such as lots of different camps. And that's what makes it all the more confusing people. It's really hard to be objective about what you're trying to achieve. Let's be honest. It's not one of those add any of these groups toxic. No, no. It's not talk. So now we look at good bad. Good bad. Again, that's a relative tomb if I appeal of roughly every day for a month, it is can't could end up in hospital because of either Lloyd of something, you know. And in the same way that much Mark, our nutrients, Mike. That's not good in that rabbit hole by in the same direction you know, if I kill of chocolate every day for a month. I'm also going to be putting myself at some kind of risk long Tim, as well. Neither of those scenarios are ideal. Save just excluded the war knock door to the white hacker diets, I've laid out that doesn't really take off. So what do we call food's good and bad? Look, I think it's relates to for first and foremost, you know, there are foods, which eight regular basis, I gotta have a protective benefit for our health. So there's a certain minimum of micronutrients, macronutrients reacquire in order for our body to function optimally and long-term, which we know reduces risk of sitting diseases as well. So that's why we look at certain foods under that lanes of, you know disease prevention, good, health, short-term, and long-term. And we'll Bain but we also need to factoring that not all food. We ate for good health. There is. Multitude of reasons that we ate including facilitation for sharing for connecting for showing love for pure enjoyment. And none of those wrong, the one, we're telling people that, you know, the date night dinner by head is actually bad for them all, you know, that, that, that is really nice time for somebody to share an occasion with their partner, but then they're riddled with guilt because of eight and foods that they've been told a bad or wrong, which inherently makes them bad or wrong. So there's a there's a unfortunately annoying middle line. He of. So this is cherry picking information coming from, like these g that's bad. Look what people think is bet. Well, I mean, when you look at science in general, it is I can prove myself rata wrong in any scenario depending on what I choose to take out from a an article. So I could read a journal article on the benefit soul, the side effects of specific nutrient, and depending on potentially my biases or what I'm trying to prove right or wrong. I can put up. A pretty convincing case depending on what may personally, I want to achieve. So there's always biases whenever we're looking at any kind of nutrition information, and otherwise that we need to be aware of, and the lens that we look at, you know what are we? Are we being objective or is it subjective information that went to the pulling out as you look at the scope of the research to they're not researching, I deserve the picking something to research? And, and the nightmare research is, you know, you have to stop somewhere and use what you've got at that time. So, you know, nutrition is a science, but there's also a human factor to it, which we need to account for, you know, we're not robots when knots test tubes. We can have scientific evidence to show something that is good for us. And is probably beneficial that we, you know, utilize that information, however, when we look at the individual who's applying that information, it might not be useful for them. So there's the, you know scientific data that's available. But then there's also the. Real life application of that. And that's not always going to be practical for the person, taking it up. So I might have information that I've, you know, read and it's just information until I apply to somebody and applauded a number of times. That's what becomes knowledge. So when it comes to diet and dieting, and trying to lose weight, we've got all of these various camps. You know, everyone's got a and they might have perfectly honorable motivations behind wanting people to take up their cause most people do you know they think it's doing the best thing by the degraded. Goodbye telling this information. But we also need to acknowledge that sometimes, you know, the, it can be a reduced lanes. They're looking through, and I might not be able to say that there's actually a breadth of information there that needs to be considered before saying, this is the way to do one approach. So there are thousands of different Autry approaches, we can take and some of them are going to be good for some people and terrible for others. So, so what's giving us a paramount ovation started at where we getting all these environmental awareness that we need to go on a door? Well, I mean, I think it's a fairly common scenario where people want to be my small off, for some reason, you know, I'm not sure exactly the, the science in terms of why we have that drive Bessis. This certainly societal pressure to be smaller some cases. I mean, we're, I I'm from, it's always be the bed up in strengths pool, which is what's a papal, however, you know, for the most part, general population as being this sort of trend of smaller is better or you know, looking set in way, which is in on train. So they, you know, in the nineties, it was the way seen Kate moss look. And then now it's probably having a big bomb. And having, you know, muscles and all that kind of stuff this trained in body in buddy shy, you know, with the rise of social media with the rise of popular magazines and all that kind of stuff influences where saying, settling, put forward to us, and comparing ourselves to that, and sort of checking. Hey, my, where do I stand? That's a human nature thing check. Where do I stand within my population? Do I need to make any changes and that, you know, quite frequently leads to want to lose white on the other side of that with, you know world where we've got ample opportunity to consume calories, in excess, that's led to scenarios where people might be carrying more white in an unhealthy fashion. And then, you know, latte lading to payments, so their quality of life, and I might have received information for health practitioner, or family member or something like that. That's awesome. You know that advise them to reduce their white. So there's a number of raisins some societal some medical that lades people to wanna lose weight. But I think the manner in which we address it. He's the mice critical pot in the in the picture. They are more positive ways to approach the endeavor. And then there are some pretty negative in ways of parching it. And that's probably what we're gonna is what, what door expect. When trying to lose white, let's stop it. Well, I think the. The first thing is he's setting time expectations and also expectations of how much you need to lose in order to get the benefit of it. Not everybody. I think he's checking for from health perspective. Do you actually need to lose weight? And there's a sort of subset of the population, which we call the worried. Well, who might think they carrying extra two three or four kilos extre, and that we happier when they rached generic number, and that the person I would probably just be discussing healthy eating habits and improving the for quality of life. And not torturing themselves to get down to a generic number under probably four two hours, one night, a fraud, I- fraud. I not to Sunday's Ivan sly the democrat, there's, you know, the fallen that one myself a lot of different patents that we've got going on here. But, you know, and then when it comes to people who from a hills perspective would benefit from reducing their white because potentially aiding head. It's not serving them. Well, or they might be impairing their ability to move because of extra white on their body. Then I once we sort of figured that pot out, you know, it is a benefit for them to lose weight for quality of live. Then we need to figure out an approach that ease realistic respectful to the person and is focusing on food quality diet lifestyle, increasing exercise in a way that's positive rather than telling, you know, shaming people and rather than placing foods and good bad toxic and driving those guilt, shame sort of feelings, as a result of it, and I think it's really important, again, having a person that has the objectively and the responsibility to be providing that information in the the most productive way possible. So you're a qualified patriots will. Yes, right. So someone comes in and see if you were Jimmy European on lose white. Yep. And just take off the door to shine half for second. What should we is as industry leaders? Telling these people that he'd awesome die. Once I wanna lose. And you know, it's an down really coming from one or two, I'll get told five and ten big numbers. People wanna hit recall, absolutely talked. So what should a pay looking at from Judy legions point of view in relation to engaging that person? Well, there's a certain level of training with general population nutrition that you get, when you do you no training qualifications, and that three looking at, you know, the quality of the die reducing, you know, you discretionary foods junk food, essentially, increasing level of physical activity as a personal trainer. The first place you're gonna start ease improving body composition, getting the person to be competently moving getting them moving more. And in a way that makes him feel good. But is also increasing their energy expenditure. I find focusing on the performance factor over the burning calories factor to be far more communicative expand on that a little bit what you mean by that. Well, I mean, there's two ways you can look at exercise is. He's increasing performance, which tends to have a lot more with I pull performance proficiency. You know, hitting your pay bays that feels good. When I go into the GM Illinois, that I'm about to go. I've been working up to hitting a one Arima. My dad live because I've been focusing on gang the gym regularly hitting my training sessions. Dang on my program. I feel good. When I do that my body feels strong. I'm respecting my body for what it can do the other arm of that ease when you are going into the gym with the sole purpose of bidding calories that gets super boring and super destructive really quickly like you know, often you, you might want to know the Dodd I like our five hundred calories in my spin class yesterday, which is cool. But is it framing it in a way that really gonna late to burn out because, you know, you get up on a five AM in the morning. And I know I have to bend five hundred calories, if I'm having a crappy day my motivation to do that is going to be a lot, Mike. My, why is a lot less strong to Ben five hundred Keller. Ways Ray it in a way that small positive and congestive to, you know good outcomes. I'm gonna go get out of bed. I don't really feel like doing it. But I've, I've got a five K run. I'm working towards and this training session is one of the steps in that journey, my likelihood of actually getting out of bed to do that. I'm not gonna say stuff, but I caught me bullet tabun as calories you going to do it anyway. I would prefer people to look at it at as in a way that's again, positive framing as opposed to sort of taking away from their wellbeing. The first place pre back the fist place. I'm looking as, as a China is working with the client on the reason why I want to do something to, you know, it's fine. If you, if you have the, the goal to lose five keillor's, ten kilos, if it's appropriate, but we would be really beneficial for the client to actually get super clear on, you know, euro is going to be burning calories exercising house about we put some performance goals on there, too. Keep me my divided and to Cape. You, you know, appreciating what you buddy can do rather than focusing on the, you know, the sod effect, which is calorie been, you know, it just makes lot more sustainable more positive, and it skull oriented, and it's going to add t alive, rather than taika. Why? Because if anybody anybody's run on a treadmill for half an hour waiting for the calories to take by. It is a very miserable. Thirty minutes done it. It's a long calories a very long time. But if I'm working on my five K P bay time. I'm a motivator. You goes to psychology in a master's, Dr tactics nutrition, the aspect in undergrad. Definitely did I did a, a major in psychology and I did health psychology my masters, as a elective, did you touch on the fact of that person? That's aiming at five hundred calories doing that extra half an hour on the treadmill. What that does long-term in relation to their relief for the food, like, is there a stage and you here we go? Flock, this, the old these calories now I'm going to have that picture cake, lucky is a, a lot around. Look to be honest with you. I'm. That's well, how did ya dotting like we all the time. Yeah. You're doing it comes guys and comes and goes, what is it that criteria? Well, look without being a psychologist answering that fist question are in line swimming Mullane bought a real psychologist you name on everyone. Let's get that out. They never. Let's talk about from a dog and I will stay trying to respective, it is a mental patent. Nice save really commonly. This is anecdotally from where I'm standing that people will go do them. Five km run on a Saturday morning. They'll say off being being good. I've done the good thing. Now I'm gonna treat myself on. I'm going to have the croissant which subsequently easily. Fees just let you keep your cross. Boil that croissant down into a B I'm gonna treat myself, I'm gonna get a B on an even had Odobi gray God, screen areas that pot. I'm not even sure. But anyway, that's an aside. It's a, it's a roundabout people doing a certain amount of work, and then they're kind of undoing their work by having that mentality of trading themselves with food with calories, when you look at the buckets, we can expend energy from the, the buckets from which we, we burn in g exercise. And I've said this before is a fairly inefficient way to lose white. We've got our resting metabolic, right? Which is the energy required to leave as one bucket. It's a very big bucket. That's seventy percent of our energy expenditure is from just lying being alive. Then we've got out and they someone on the couch in SRI says I'm until mccarthyite you'll. Technically hot dumping. There is some element of truth to that. Then we've got the theme effective food so it costs energy to break down your food, we expend energy in that respect as well. And then with celery dotted a well that's a myth. Myth busted. And then we have exercise in juice energy expenditure. We can split that off into two buckets, the energy weeks, bend by moving just by walking to the car scratching our head fidgeting that, that expense a lot of energy see they release toll skinny people who've nothing on them to that can be fidgety. They banning three four hundred calories today day by being a fidget as opposed to the sort of slow people who don't move as much they don't expending, as much of non planned in an unplanned way. And then we've got Al planned exercise, which is the exercise that we do the hour will the two hours of training. A half an hour might do. So we've got a few buckets of. You know from where we can expend energy exercise is one. That is a very small percentage of what we actually app put in day. So when people start looking at calories bent equating that to a food product, and then, you know, that's, that's when it becomes a pretty vicious loop of non result when we're doing that people. So what, what is on that yo, during which, which, which to what does it normally result in more white gyn? Yeah. In the long run. That's a good question. So we've painted a scenario where I've taken my daily energy budget required for white maintenance. I potentially in many cases that I say, I've have it. So I've have my calories required in one day in order to lace white, I've stuck to this for two weeks, and I get to the sort of fifteenth day, and I'm really hungry. My buddy is amping up the hormones that are associated with food, you know, food, searching behavior. So i'll. Gene, behavior of never heard of it put like that, before I have a lot of food searching behavior. I'm looking for it. No. There actually is weakened crowding, we get home run. A lot of patience driven by starvation in essence. If I've harped your calories, I'm going to say that. Okay. That's more than day. But that's that's, that's the more than day foam starvation. We're not gonna stop these days. Foodies, polenta full we can self-impose starvation and Luddites out that do that quite effectively. There are adaptations remember applying mentally to, isn't it? They of course, it is, you know, it easy is depriving people of the nutrients required to run their Brian efficiently. So everything's running on half and resulting Lee. We say these sort of Melia hormonal and physiological and psychological changes, which I actually driving us to eight more. So we get some adult patients, which include increase in draft eight so fade searching behavior so the hormones leptin, grilling. We've talked about these before, so leptin, his ASA Taty hormone on full Gretl in is Al hungry. He Homa in looking for food, so leapt intends to go down because we have potentially also reduced some fat mass in a dime. Dieting phase. So I'm is secreted from fat cells. So if we've reduced the number of fat cells with head also reduced capacity to secrete Upton. So that's one part of it. We see an increase in the in grill in which is L Hunga hormone. And we also see and some other metabolic turn down. So we say some implications we saw road home hormone. This is less likely to be a seven day thing. This is more likely to be dodging over like extreme dieting up a few months than we say this it of the, heavier heating homeowners. Like thyroid hormone cortisol coming into play for men, reducing their energy intake and women as well. We definitely say a tune down into to ruin production, so we've got somebody who might have been quite vital ating, adequate calories able to go train energy to train in g to build lean muscle mass and engage in everyday activity have their gene tight. The draft eight increases their will to move decreases. Too. So, you know, that's another part of his the adaptive, you know, one of the stations to dieting is, I don't feel like moving spontaneously as much so the output, any output, actually decreases because I bought, he's trying to make what we're giving it, it's trying to make the budget. So we're trying to run body on a budget. That's fifty percent of what was last week. Al will to train gets reduced because we just don't have that we don't have the energy to dedicate to the cool as a brain function is, is compromised, because we don't have enough glucose running, it is, I would click as Dont'a, Don dietician on board. You know, it's always say all these metabolic downs in order to conserve energy in order to be able to meet the minimum requirements to stay alive. And if we stay down there long Tim, you know, and also the we run the risk long tomb that win not consuming enough nutrients to mate Al minimum health requirements as well. So there's a bit of a pitchy here, and where more top nutrients you talking about the u Micra. Yeah. Micronutrients avenue macaroni trips as well. So way reducing protein, intake or reducing wheel to train, you know, we're compromising lean muscle mass as well. And again, that has a flow ineffective of, of slot. Metabolic ten down as well. Can you summarize there's a lot of things you've talked about the ups and downs hormones here and the United Nations, take like a shredder pre workout in the multiple elementary law. If I get a goal that message I'm getting this days from everyone, but that's a message. I got from that. But let's rep Ezzat what where we, we see we see our bodies add up Taishin, we, we basically turning down any excess movement or Moyal functions in our body reduced to make the amount of energy that would taking in. We tend to say PayPal guy through sort of ob-gyn restrict cycle, so they restrict restrict restrict, and then they'll crack it and they'll end up eating double, and they'll essentially be undoing any calorie deficit that they might have achieved day, you know, when we're doing Holly restrictive aiding patents were having actually. Address their lifestyle. We haven't addressed address their relationship with food. We haven't addressed food quality. They might be waking off a very one dimensional dot template, which doesn't give them the tools to nuance, you know, their understanding of nutrition, and we tend to say this cycle of restricting and then overrating breeding pool a relationship with food and they bought. It's gone before we jump into what would a successful dogma like. Yeah. So just hitting on that, that binge restrict sock away thing good for weeks and weeks. And then I'm just having that day. Yeah. Stuff. I'm going to have to chase Kate off. I'm gonna go out that not I'm going to have six rum and cokes. Yep. We'll hang on this kebab on the way home, I like just reliving too. I am Greg that can work both ways that one that can purge all. So what I want to know is I've done that and I've eaten a hell of a lot of calories drunk, a lot of calories. How bad is that to the bench? Cannot come back tomorrow and, and move forward or Amoy, mice likely I've done like have I done that much damage from that one blow out, like we talk about this binge this binge restrict saw Hsun means you're not gonna one die being Joe Ugo on several Diaby journey did it yesterday. Who cares? I'll do it tomorrow, Thursday. I'll stop my daughter Monday is that the bad pot is at one meal. Really blowing me out the door now. That's the problem he get. I've found move on this. He's always I say this to paper. The foster you can move on from that scenario. The bitter a few everybody has scenarios, and when we look at the definition of binge eating as, as, you know, the, the, the binge eating that ease a clinical team. And then there's the, you know in one sitting having ever Asian unaccountable amount of food, which may or may not, we've got the beans that makes you feel guilty that has shame attached to it. That is probably two three thousand dollars. Just say no. Shame. Especially when you've had a couple of bourbons zero shame, but then we've got the scenario way you modified into a big dinar and eight. And, you know, a fair amount of food know it might be thousand calories extra as opposed to a day's worth of calories and a lot of shaming guilt. So I think, you know, looking at the bean a couple of different the body smart enough, though, is an it noises is abnormal. Look, if it's if it's one sitting, I mean, the sooner people can stop labeling food and themselves as good or bad, because of what they've eaten. It means that I can get up tomorrow. I've had my chase cake. I've had my big joy. That was a big. It was enjoyable. If I've got a positive relationship with food, and I haven't liable that bigger as toxic. Oh, bad, now on the bad person, and having eight-minute I can get up have my breakfast and get on with my life is a big question for you say, I have been on more restricted calorie diet or you're talking about. And I've had a binge while she next morning Clark. I think he should just look like the mornings, where of every other every other day because I when look, I want to explain to people like you've had been naughty, probably not feeling the best because you've had a few drinks it. So just get back into the routine to get back into three attain when you're starting out, just getting back in through tain. Look, if you, you can nuance here approach, if you're a competent ater, if you're somebody who has a positive relationship with food who understands nutrition, and that old foods are appropriate at any one time, you might be able to shuffle around you feel a little bit. But for most people who for the most pot aunt competent eighties at this stage, just eight you normal breakfast. Because, you know, when we start restricting the next day. That starting the cycle again penny because you're going to get hungry. And then you get gotta step again. Like it's just it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So in some cases, if people are competent they might choose to shuffle they calories, and they have a lot of breakfast knowing the gonna have a big Edina, but that takes a bit of skill and a bit of full side, an abusive competence, to be at a do that stuff without it becoming three days of, fostering, leading into a big deny and it becoming like quite a negative thing. You know it. I think the feeling behind the action is what's most important? What's driving the person to do it is the most important thing. But long ensure that if you've had a b big day, you know, eighteen just get back Joe gone just Joe gone minor. It's, you know, when with chastising chastising L sales for eight and foods is, is, is really creating very native cycle that it is very hot to break NAS. So let let let's stop talking about the bottom half of the gloss. Let's talk about the top half. What would a successful white Lhasa attent, look? I've condensate you hear it. I wanna lose few kilos. Yeah. So we've had a conversation Grank in this scenario, this hypothetical scenario, and we've come to a an agreement where we've got a sensible timeframe, we have a sensible right with chunked down the goal. So if you came to me and said, I want to lose twenty kilos a super overwhelming. I want to say let's talk with three now imagine, you know, losing joss woj, because it's mentally have you ever started a really big project and procrastinated on it, because it's so big that you just didn't even know what a start. And you just didn't do anything about it. Wrong person to ask you said, Moore twenty kilos challenge for going. Okay. But it's it's every morning. It is overwhelming like twenty kilos that's going to take me forever. But if I can get you some short winds on the ball and build up your confidence, you'll eating concept project management and management exactly science Dakhli of very good at project management. So let's think about last give you health as a project is a long-term prayer. Checked with the very dia deadline. But that seni- down that track. But you know, we've, we've got a structure, we've decided that we're going to sensibly reduce your intake. So what are spectators, if we're being sensible? Well, we're looking at the food's economy eighteen with you know, we've reviewed your current dot tree, and take, and I might have identified that every not you'll having five B's seeks because they come into six packs, and let's be on us. You're not gonna leave one in the fridge you having a six pack every night. And that actually, if we could reduce that down to two initially, then, that's an extra four hundred calories five hundred calories that you not consuming each not, we've just knocked down, you know, you're in tight without having to even touch your food. Sorry, it's important to look at what the individual is doing. We want to make sure that their goal is realistic timeframes, realistic, because unfortunately with the TV show is that we have where they're losing three four five six. Allies and awake. I'm bringing it back down with a lot of my clients sang, if you'll losing two hundred fifty grams of fat in a way happy days, that's a win because I want your expectation to be achievable, and I want you to feel like your getting some runs on the board initially wakened waken change the goalposts as we go. But in those first three full five weeks, it's about establishing sustainable habits. It's about cutting out the low hanging fruit. The six pack of beer, cutting cutting that down. That's a low hanging fruit. The soft drink Lewis confronting on outset of every fraud. I not absolutely. You know, there are a lot of low hanging fruit that people don't even look at that guy straight for the jugular, and we don't want to go straight for the jugular, initially. So we've you know we're looking at zero one percent body fat one percent body wide awake. As a, you know, as a pretty big target. You know, Hof to one percent of your body white in awake is, is good going. So such a mental perspective should people think of it as percentage of body, white or as? Akilah hash. Should we do this? It's the percentage makes it relative to the person. It depends like if, if it's one hundred ten kilo person in that's, you know, ten percent of their body weight is eleven percent. That's you know, they'll kill awake and relative to the size of the person that might be really steep. But if I'm working with someone who's shorter and who's smaller, you know, that's gonna be a lot of white, so. Central percentages can work what quite well because I make it relative to the piss and but again the disappearance how it working with that person is that one percent recess every week at the new white or are you talking the one percent of the original white meat? So is people that they're gonna ring me in auspey? Well, look, you would have to recalibrate that. So you want percents each week. Well, you can it's not going to be an exact science AIBA with white loss. We bought a good ballpark figure about what we're aiming for. And if we've, you know, we've decided that full kilos it's going to get two point where they're happier and better able to live their lives. And you know, we can race at as we go along. But it's not going to be an exact sign. I get that. Get that I think most people get that too. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'll read the person that comes home every night and has a glossy warm weather cooking dinner oral. They're doing that type of thing. Would you be in? What is a successful white Lhasa tent? Look like what would that be one of the things you signed people? Let's try and take that out before you change foods and do all the things. Look that could be a chronic six packs extreme. I don't get many people that drink sixties, but that one glass of wine look that could be away that you put a dot like one. If you think I'm talking about me everyone, I'm gonna wondering, not none of mine drinking. It looked you know, I'm looking at the entirety of they've food habits if any fat gloss of wine is a labor, we can pull without it being, you know, too stressful. It that could be a good approach, but it also might be the banana bread that they absent mindedly consume at morning tea. So we might not have to touch the wine. Obviously, drinking alcohol in excess is not ideal and has signed bloom, a lotta by blowing. No, we'll try and four five times a week they ate height, cleaning, because I don't really know the definition. Eight fail when I call fairly claim which I mean, I guess that means they use ingredients crisis foodstuff yet. A lot of them, you know, hind executives and I'll have a glass of warm and they can hydrate not. It's just so wind down. Yes. If you're, if you're looking at someone like that wh-, where are you going to go? I are you going to say, let's reduce Serb sources because I want to know what I see look what it looks like leading to. Let's be on us you drink and calories. Let's move on from that is that you're gonna be really hot owners with people or you're going to. Let's take a look look nice. It is people aren't having that, but Ana Keiko, yet you ought to be said it'd be 'cause it's got cake attached to it. And I think that's a bad very before classified as bad earlier. So if if I've assess their diet with them in conjunction with them, and we've identified that glass of wine, Duffin, actually, pose any meaningful benefit to their diet, and that could be something that guys if and, you know, we might look at other ways of relaxing off to work in order without having to go towards alcohol to do that. And that's an important. Thing to identifies that okay lifestyle. Factor is obviously playing a big thing in here. If you need to glosses of one of an evening to wind down excuse the pun. We need to look at lifestyle factors as well. Which, again is something that I assess with people, and, you know, if what you doing your job properly, you're assessing the aloft affected the getting a really good understanding of what of some of the underlying stresses pressure points for these people as well. Because when you look at a traditional Gaza Warner any type of social event, it's not one Gaza wanting more. Is it standard drinks? He's definitely not a standard during anymore. Most glasses of wine. You'll get pulled up probably one and a half. Standard drinks, one hundred meals is around the amount of alcohol is ten grams of alcohol in a standard drink, and then you multiply that up by the percentage of the alcohol that you can see meaning so like of spirit is obviously going to be a small sieve sized Inci like a blind BI, you can drink more pursue. Get that standard drinking there. And is that something you do like someone who really wants a beer? Annoyed because I talk about what is a good game play. Let's stop the heavy beer and jump online beer, is that something that we use one hundred percent. So that'd be drinking wanna read one all shy in that one day, I think it would be if we're pulling it, you know, the bread one might have a slightly high of eighty student fact, then white one, but again, that's probably cherry picking a little bit and saying, let's look at the overall habit. They are chocolate lighter. So, yes, yes, but the thing is, you know, it's, it's figuring out what again, what are the low hanging fruit? How we can create a calorie deficit that will allow you to lose weight in a gradual manner without totally. I've arriving your lifestyle and making it. Cyrus tricky constitute to it, and I can say why the questions by you're rolling your eyes like oh, here we go. Here he goes again, but I'm not trying to spot us, which I know you think I am what I'm trying to get here is, you've got a lot of people that say, hi I'm trying I'm doing this. And I'm not not losing white. But then you go do you drink not drink wondering. Yeah, let me tell you about the one one, but they do they have one, one at night when they come home and making. Dinner for the kids, a half an air Powell. Yep. So honest conversations, a CPR tad to working with people. So if we dropped the gloss of worn out of out that might be one hundred hundred calorie, sorry, you talking potentially have a week seven hundred calories. Yeah. Yes. So she's gonna make date. It's not going to be the rule thing. But I think very frequently PayPal on aware of the, the engy content of a lot of fades. So then be the flat white drink is too, because they're having a Fitch of milk in a flat white on. Well, yeah, but if if, if that in context of the daily nutrition in tie, you know, that's fine. That might be paternally private because milk sauce. I got a good chunk of pride tanning now. Calcium, it satisfying thing in the morning. So it might be the answer. If they're having a lodge caramel autopay, I would be looking at that, but I'd also be looking at you. No way. Can we cut from way? Can we cry a calorie deficit fromm without completely ruining the quality of life and their enjoyment? Absolute you'll live yet because I love my flat white, if they won't take that away from me. Aga's. You have a small that you never lodge, look somedays. It's a lodge. Let's. Sometimes the triple shy. Joy, bodies, aren't you need a small one. So like I said, we've talked about drinking your calories, we've talked about one percent. A good dot is looking at one percent yet. What else are we looking at here that we need to do, and you're not e- haven't mentioned up half calories yet night? So we want to not have out calories. You're off trend. I'm so off trend. Mommy told me what is your Instagram account while we're talking about off train at athletic eighteen to that smile? Little. Since last time, we spoke to you pled accounting of drought, the Harriet Walker off. They're just a little bit of anonymity. You know, never killed anyone this case drugs. I don't get told off by Greg having handle. That's too long. So we're still enjoying a social occasions. You, you know, let's look at that drink. Let's look at changing the topic drink. We do. Yeah. The one percenting calories, what are we doing? Look, we want to be able to create a dent, you know, maintenance level of calories, because I've been rand you a lot in some athletic populations. Recently were you some people have wanted to lose a little bit of white with you, and you put them on more calories? Yeah. You said we're gonna hurt for a week or two long long. It was a month or two, but we're gonna come back the NFL can we talk about that sort of things to these comes down to aiming really commonly when people have reduced calories so heavily. There's nowhere to go there. She don't like we can't Reggie say calorie, then he Loa and what's happened in many cases, calories, you have people coming into you at in this off. I nine thousand calories. Yeah. Nine hundred calories thousand calories twelve hundred calories and we're talking people who doing one two three hours trying a day, g they must be sucking. Some it's really common. It is super common like I think I am giving people more calories than less calories. But what we don't understand what, what gets missed in many cases, is that if your training and your not consuming enough energy to be able to maximize the adaptations. And when I say, stations basically, build off, what you've done training is stimulus. If you're not giving your body extra building books to cash in on that stimulus. You might have had a really great plot of land. Come on a bait front area that never comes up if you don't have the capital, the cash to build on that block of land. You totally miss down. So if you're training, and you're trying to do, you know, build some lean muscle mass if you'll underrating you've bodies probably tuned down all the metabolic processes that are. Associated with building. And we're cutting with cutting down. Everything's on slow. My not sky my so I I it's off track. They were talking about what is good door look like. So what are you doing with people like someone comes into you? You're, you're, you're assessing what a couple of days of any head, he actually work out, how many calories salons can shaming. Well, I mean, there's ice be honest. We're not telling you the truth night. Well, I do osc people to be as honest, and as accurate as possible. So I have to assume in some cases at it's not going to be completely accurate, but a food diary, I'll get people to use an app to do that to track. And I can actually have a look at it full them. Three days is the minimum that you can kind of get a gist of what they're eating and in many cases, I'm just looking for gist of what they're eighty. I'm not taking what they've given me his gospel, but it gives me a pre good idea of saying, look, general consensus. Here he is at your underrating or general consensus ease you'll consuming. Not switch a really healthy for you. But you'll having five hundred grams a day. And that's really popping. You wipe, your calorie budgets that might be the point at which I stopped the MacKay we're going to reduce that down. So I don't want to have their calories that could get some way, white loss, really quickly is at could quality white loss. Perwin not probably going to be a lot of muscle mass, as well as fat mass and loss of joy, I'm gonna make trying to create a calorie deficit that sustainable that they will probably not notice too much. So it might be changing, you know, from, you know, of a large coffee to a small coffee, that might be somebody that's appropriate. But for other people that might say bugger off not doing that the sacrifices when negotiating it's a negotiation. I'm not telling people what to do. I'm working with him looking currently doing and negotiating changes with them that, that can agree to, and they can actually achieve in order to get a calorie deficit that's going to allow full that white loss that they can do consistently. But also allows them to exercise with good intensity. And with you know joy, so this environment of change support that you create. Yes. How? Successful. Is that in, in relief? Look, it's it's important. I don't know if you've made a change on a personally, when I was dying, full, my bodybuilding competitions way back when, when I saw tilling, my might the time you know, as a Uni student, so rock and roll off style game bags. Yep. Not never drank from wall. Maybe I did once or twice. But anyway, I digress. When I said to them that I wasn't going to be drinking a loss in the next six months. I got I bought like, yeah, give error not very supportive at all because I've, they've lost the drinking buddy. Yup. So every time you make a change in your life. Somebody's going to be morning that roll that you'll playing full them, not by the cake aiding, buddy. It might be drinking buddy have been your Netflixing chill buddy. Gotcha different connotations. We need to make sure that we have people who are on our team that we have that support Nick mechanism behind him. So did we tell people is it successful tovia behavior on, I'm on a fitness? It depends on darting. What what, what do we do? We tell what we're looking at the things that credit could dot do. Do we communicate that or do we just go on not telling anyone on, just Aw, look doing there, there would be some significant PayPal? It would be useful to tell because you want their support their, the people that you say day today, who will actually be assisting you with this, then, as the people you probably don't wanna tell like you wick mates who have unless said like good blacks in good cheeks. Sometimes people can be pretty crappy when it got your it can be sabotaging, like all gone, Julie have another. Hey, you know I to hurt you. Oh, you're being good today, that says more about them that does about you. But in some cases, I think it's better just to keep to yourself and do your thing and knuckled down a few good people. You know, a few good crew. So should we keeping in these missing Varma show, you keeping some type of journal, log or something? Yeah, look for some people. A general Kim, have make them more mindful of what they're doing in. Mindfulness is a word that gets bandied around a lot too. Power. It's a pow wedge. But when applied in, in a way it is it is perfect. Do just being aware awareness is such a big thing, lung ID thing, sometimes like I had no idea. I was like accidents, you know, every time I went to the pitch will station getting it further frog. Boy, that's the sort of stuffy, like, oh, okay. I can see what you're saying. Now, I, I was aware but I wasn't aware. So, you know, generally for people can be a way of picking their awareness through diaries on always necessary. But I can be some people useful tool monitoring trains, and actually identify. And that's something you can take back to, you know, a dietitian or you try and be like, Aw. Hey, guess what? I just realized that every Wednesday night when the kids are going to hockey that I get a bucket of hunt chips. Okay. This week. This is something that we could be like of a bucket of chips. Let's, let's take some snacks long that you got to enjoy. But on a back of the hut chips, and we've saved you. We'll listen of these podcasts of alternatives for bucket of hot chips are enjoyable snacks. Shortly. So I'll get back to you on that. Oh, it's more Ansett though, isn't it? Yeah, it's mindset, and it support network as well and environment behavior change, upskilling knowledge about nutrition. The let's be honest is in marriage. People is average or driven from bits of stuff. I want to read like a blog follow somebody in. That's what I get their information from. And that's why it's important for people who are putting information out there. They make it the best quality information that they know how, you know, everyone's going to have a degree qualification, but we do need to make sure that people are being responsible with information that putting out, it's a minimum just being aware that people are consuming that I mean all talks, information's good information. Take it the right way and do the right thing with it. Yeah. Absolutely. So we've talked about all that, let, let's look at some lost all factors. I mean is that an area, you guys playing it is, well where lifestyle impacts the way in which people eight it's such a big factor? And he's such a big fact. We don't just eight innovate cume. I while I'm back. Cuming. Don't eight in evacuate. See what I did there? You know in lifestyle factors play a really big part of it. So, you know, if you see the big sleep and stress. So that is a big too, and that those are two really big drivers for the wine, which we ate. So, you know, there's information research to show that when we're not sleeping adequately that we say an increase in the hormones associated in the same way when we rejoice out calories, we say that drive to eight. We say the same response when we have not an inadequate slate patents. So we get that increased drive to eight increase cravings for this sort of sugary high energy food, to sort of help boost, Angie, when we're not feeling that crash hall, and in the much sleep unawed. We talk lucky dropping from NFL having seven hours or five hours or massive difference in their e, you know the u shape curve, we say with training adaptation, it's an upside down you. It's the same we can apply that same principle with sleep. So there is an optimal at the top of the or over. That amount of slate, we tend to say detriments in health and then on the other side too little sleet. We say detriments at health and last outcomes and olack HANA geek. So I think where they landing at the moment, and this is by stuff, something of red just recently that there is a bit of a happy medium. Some people are gonna fall outside of the bell curve. So I some people can get on five hour sleep and be fine in the same way that some people can get nine ten hours of sleep, and be fine as well for the mice pot. We're looking at that seven to eight hours as being the sweet spot. They will be out lies, but that's really where we're looking at. So obviously ping can have downsized Justice onto sleeping Ken to, you know, I went going about textbook is, but I was talking, some Las not about sleep, which you JIMBO. Yeah. Or amid and she was quoting some of the new stats coming out in relation to sleep and learn away. Boy, yeah, where that's going, it's going to impact a lot of industries. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, into safety thing, as well, when we're not sleeping properly, we do say that sort of equivalent of, you know. Point zero five blood alcohol level. It's a really does impact will bang certainly does impact food choices and also bet stressing and possibly in, in the world that I live in a lot more anxiety coming out and people and you know, in, in joking, y and in a serious way to, you know, let people go to me, awkward you plant mines Auty levels like that. Just back the fuck off talk to you. I get that. But then there's true anxiety with people wake up nervous anxiety about what could happen. What's that? Join with weight loss. Look, the direct link between sort of mental health and white. There's a couple of different branches toy. I'd, I think that would probably deserve. I'm someone else talking to Nelson, but also a different podcast like a whole 'nother topic on that link. Because if you are hearing exotic people give Laughlin Colaco, some great resources, have a chat to absolutely absolutely entities in Europe. Dan Cohen, sorta, there is a definite requirement to, to look at that aspect of it. But at a top level, you know, we can say when win not balanced from as a result. Of stress in life. And we know we're not, not making the best food choices with, you know, we might be making convenience food, choices away might be eating foods, sort of more towards comfort eating rather than aiding for, you know, long-term could help so, you know, sleep and stress certainly do. Stress aiding is certainly thing in, I, you know, encouraging people to sake out tools that on, on food related in some aspects, look, we, you know, it's it is it is fine to confidant every on then, but when it becomes a crutch, as because there's something that, you know, addressing your lifestyle and that's when we need to base it of bringing other people on bullet deceased with that. And it certainly does impact people's eighty behaviors. So let's dip away from that. So let's talk about the post and who's on a big project. Tom, Tom deprived? They are doing their training each week. They're, they're eating their door properly. The probably not having much sleep because when you come into a project you tend to have a loss for percents without big in the last four percent. You know what are those people suffering from a white loss perspective? But they still hitting hitting the gym. They're still doing everything they can. Can but the joss busy all day, look, if this still manages your your typical executive get look if they're still managing to eight well and train. Well, the, the one thing that might be factored in there is that they sedentary behaviors increased quite drastically. I know if a myself unless I'm monitoring my steps I can if I'm not hitting ten thousand steps, I'm hitting five hundred steps because I'm sitting down at my desk, every single day, which means that all of a sudden, I've gone from burning to this is our non exercise activity. Genesis one of those buckets, that we could expend energy from, they, they might be sitting down for, you know, they might be not expending three hundred calories a day with I used to. So that's the difference between, you know, when I'm up and moving. And I'm actively trying to get my steps in if I don't have time to do that. All of a sudden, my energy expenditure has gone from, you know, a thousand calories a day to six hundred calories a day, multiply that out. And that's going to be better. You know, white guy in his well, so you know, we're not just looking at structured exercise gloss. One on top of that. I put a couple of extra calories. Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know, it's, it's the little subtle things like that. But especially when we're stress went time poi, I think the non-exercise component of meant Safas, this sedentary behavior increases, and that really plays into that potential to gain why I know when I went from being a student who was, you know, in hospitality part time, studying putt full-time walking around as Lee doing fifteen thousand steps today, you know, if I do shifted a cafe restaurant, I you know, as an AC two kilos when the first twelve months having finished school and going into office wig. That's just how it happens. So, you know, those, the sedentary behavior is just as plays a big role in, you know, fluctuations in white as exercise and diet. Good Voss, Inc. When I went arm traveling like planes hotels. Well, yeah. I mean unless you're at Melbourne airport. That's an easy one and a half kilometer around traipse. That's great. It's tiring. Do you what do we want to guy back and just lets you set the white slip white Lhasa, tamp would look like? Yeah, I Bassi I've got a I've got a least it I put together. And this is like I asked my clients is at the end of, of what we have been doing just gives them a checklist of things I've of pulled it together. It's not rocket science. This probably similar to these, but what I say success, people who have successfully maintained a healthy weight for a long period of time. What some of the habits and what if somebody behaviors and the skills that they have through this? So the first one used their food choices a based on healthy choices so unprocessed high made food, lots of color lean protein, healthy fats. Lobe slow-burning carbohydrates, eighty percent of their food choices, and that's a fairly generic number, but majority of their food choices are coming from the foods that are going to be saving them. Well that's one to they're not doing one hundred percent but then not doing feature percent Isla so eighty percent United nice little little number. They're not banning food groups. They can successfully have one lawn of chocolate in Blunk and not feel the need to. Because they've labeled at food is bad than not going to be like stuff it. I'm going to have the whole block. Okay. So that can successfully consume small appropriate portion of fate because I haven't liable. Good bad. It's just something they enjoy orca because they've done some work around their food beliefs, and they've, they've identify what their favorite foods are. And I might have cut out some of the other inconsequential foods, they don't really enjoy. So they, they can eat before enjoyment without feeling guilty. And that really goes a long way to breaking that beenish cycle that we say, and they don't say consuming, those foods aren't necessarily Hilty per se. I don't see that as a failure. It's something that I do in a regular basis, because I enjoy it and they've left the guilt behind. So that's always EP Guan majority of their food is prepared hyme? And I also are aware of healthy convenience options, so we're talking about planet. A little bit of race research. What is in your environment that you know that if you haven't prepared food, if you've gotten back from a wick trip, and you didn't go shopping? What is in your immediate environment that you can access, and they've, they've got a plan bay? That is not planning, but it's better than MC. Wait, I really wanna pick a brand of anything. Takeaway is not the purest convenience form, might not be the best. Yes, not fried food. So there's a continuum of optimal and terrible. And I haven't gone from up to Malta terrible. They've gone from up to multi second Beck soft option because they have put some thought into that they're aware. So the next one ease food is not a pot of their identity. What do you mean by that? Now, this is funny, one. I find when people really identify with how they ain't eat becomes quite emotional. And it can really cloud their judgment as to what they doing. I'm a the this is what I'd do if you'll leading with. I'm a- carnivore on these thing. Hey, everybody, that the why you eight shouldn't be, you know, my thing about you, I think an a can lead to people being quite distressed if they ate in a way that is from that identity. That's distressing fair enough, as good point. So they eight you know why that serves 'em suits them, but it's not deleting. Hi, I'm harried, and I'm a dot dot dot you're gay because we're just we're juicy. But with that districts that called me to dissonance if I ate in a way that's not how I think they sorry slippers prioritized over binge watching TV and scrolling through. So people very commonly with me social media research going through. Yeah. Yes. Scrolling. Yup. Not just eating squirrels that to thought, you know, scrolls roll back you thought of something. Visit a ferry. Okay. I saw in your eyes dude. He's not part of your identity. That was the previous wants to sleep sleep and social media. Yes. So we're prioritizing sleep. And as we discussed lack of sleep really does late to some pretty big thing, if John tree wise, dietary choices why. So if we can prioritize oscillate make sure that we gained a bit on time. We can really roll back on some of those less optimal, choices coffee is enjoyed and, but it's not relied upon to get through the day. So I am such a big caffeine fan. Bullshit on that one but not my jogging, I'm a user. Longtime user as you said, coffees enjoyed it's not look at it native. So you seeks today and you like struggling. That's a red flag tomato say, hey, what's going on? Balance was you'll life you need to get small sleep. Maybe Thyssen may be fifty who knows hungry fifty. So, you know, it's, it's dead of enjoyed it's not a crutch alcohol is enjoyed but not essential to having a good time or to deal with life issues or today. Stress alcohol can be fun one hundred percent. But when you, you know, using it because loss to Haig winning to deal with life and then peel back a little bit on that. So that seemed potent exercise is enjoyable and it's done on the regular but it's not a punishment. It's the chest. Thank you. That's exactly. Right. Because I love draining on upset, and it makes me feel good. And all those good things and training, a planned exercises sane as an important part of achieving gulls, but missing a session due to illness or injury or to connect with other this doesn't cause distress. And that's a big one as well. So I'm all for training. I loved training. I'd do three hitching today, not, because I feel the need to have been excess calories are actually genuinely love the staff was Lipton. Heavy sheet? Love lifting heavy says loved going for a run. You know, love playing a ski lift heavy stuff. And you go for rhino. Don't tell my strong friends. They will will kick me out of the circle. I wasn't even the circle in the first place. Let's be honest. I'm just peering through like a crepe drinking. So that's a really coolest of successful. Can we put that at the bottom of the Pocock, so that's gonna take books that I use with people, and that it's a tool that you can go back to and be like, all right. Everything's going haywire. I'm gonna go back to this list and guy, what am I doing currently? And then whatever's leftover is what you can work on. That's, that's the, the combination of my. From my six years of study, a luck come up with. I'm gonna take. So. You can go back to you wanna be author, is this week, allergies. Look, if it's a fifty word document. I have in my opinion. Semi Instagram price. Brinton. I don't know. I didn't think of the sale, I think supporting it out. Look, I think you've touched on some bright, point and said, we we'll put them below the podcast on the website body, signs dot com dot a u Ford slash podcast character. Monday model even throw it in alkyl section to the NAS pitch of harried above it or something. Yeah. We have to get nice win fist. But that we can work on that we should probably turn this into something bigger if you ever want to and, and do some more padded Atta bitten, put some tools around it and absolute stuff because I mean it's credible as well. We've had Hera nudity in Charlotte. You want to exit. Let's not yet exit. Well, thanks for having me, Greg. You've been listening to the buddy science podcast at the house of fit happy, healthy, today's podcast was brought to you by clean coffee single origin. Arabic coffee libel rating liable rating, I would have said, hydroxy insured, but, you know, we're not going to argue which is better for you. We will have their favorites. We will have our favorites. Greg. Thank you very much for having me. It's been a pleasure having you on the show today. I look forward to having you back next time fantastic over. 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Woody Game Wednesday 07-15-2020

Woody & Wilcox

09:59 min | 3 weeks ago

Woody Game Wednesday 07-15-2020

"Her. Woody and Wilcox show. Highlighting a great American's birthday today. Mr Forest Whittaker. Posture winner. Exploited for us to win the Oscar remember the movie. So the one I always remember for whatever reason and I guess I only kind of remember it because I can't think of the name of it. What was the one where there was a guy was a girl or a girl was a guy and. That's where my knowledge ends. That was not a great hint, but you're. Talking about is the first movie I, recall seeing forest, whittaker, and good morning Vietnam No, I haven't seen. Goldens another movie I'm talking about Repo men NOPE, go back a little further well, not back further than good morning. Vietnam I don't say rogue one. Do you remember him from that? The crying game yes. Thank you Chelsea. Okay. What did he won? The Oscar for? He wanted for the last king, of Scotland where he portrayed dictator Idi Amin Okay that was two thousand six. Yeah. What's happening with time It's flying by. The crying game, though it before I was born. Longtime ago, maybe not quite that long ago. All right great well, we've gone down forest whitaker's resumes, so that was funny is a tremendous actor and we are celebrating today. Let's meet our contestants before we get into the game. everybody say to sharpen. y'All in morning. Everybody wants dude yes. Last name. What are we dealing with your charlene? That's Charles and Linda put together. That's Our Name Charlotte. I still don't understand the answer all right? Were you saying we but you're one person? I know I. Know, but you're giving tribute to the lady in your life. That my wife, I love the. strongly. Seems Nice in a way that I've never heard before. I so Charlotte. Okay, all right. Let's move forward. Taking you on is going to be Angela Angela Good Morning. and. That's a tribute to Tony Dad's. Orange alert. Dealer, WHO's The boss? Some the boss I don't remember the name of that was a. who's the ball, yes. All right here we go all right. We are celebrating force whitaker's birthday with a brand new game that I'm calling happy birthday forest. You're a heck of a guy. Tell me this other celebrity. That has a lazy eye. You're a heck of a guy. So I have some audio clues of other celebrities that have lazy is. It's going to be a team game so Angela Ladies First. Who would you like on your team? Would you like Wilcox or Chelsea? I'm going to be playing. You clips of famous people who have lazy. Is that a thing it is i. don't believe you. I went to a special website that highlights celebrities with Lazio is. Celebrities with Lazy is, and you'll see who I'm talking about will not. No words. Angela. Who'd you like on your team? All right I've never heard before right, so it's boys girls. I'm going to be playing you. Clips of famous people who had lazy is when you think you know the answer. You shout out your name. If you get it right, you get a point. If you get it wrong, your opponent gets appoint any questions before we launch into happy birthday forest your guy, tell me this other celebrities. That has the Lazy I. I can't wait to hear this because I'm concerned. You're concerned I, don't. Believe you that there's that many celebrities with lazy is are. There more to it. I think there's more to it, but everybody calls Italy's either different degrees of that condition. Yes, I think more on the class actor and we're focusing on that. No, we're focusing on other celebrities. Lazy is forest whitaker's birthday. What's the first thing you think of when you think of Forest Whittaker who apparently the crying game and I can't remember the name of it. Okay all right. Let's move forward. Right I offering here you go. Tell me this celebrity with. Lazy I didn't drive me crazy video with Britain I did not want that to be the title of the movie I tried to fight Fox on that. I did not want it to be called craigslist. He's it puts little. Teeny boppers GONNA. Come in and rename our movie now. She's GonNa be a flashing the Pan. GonNa Remember five years and there are moving. Her Song. I remember that she did movie with another person. Note here remember. Are you ringing in. I'm sure. Kate Moss does have a lazy I guess, but that is not who. Just win the game because she identified what you're calling. Lazy I'd Celebrity Yes. Yeah? That's Melissa Joan Hart she. I know she was in that Britney Spears. Yes, she was. Yes, she was so. Do Charlene and I. Get a point on that Yes, you do. I do believe. Should. Get a point for knowing that Kate Moss as a lazy. Never forget you for this. All right next offering Tell me this celebrity. That has a lazy eye. Only eight hundred people in the whole town. It's the smallest town ever. Nothing Angela. Has a lazy eye that is according to the website that I went to. Yes, if you'd see certain pictures over, you can definitely tell it's a condition and you can train your it's. It's a long story. Frank has part of this condition and you can. If you get to it early enough, you can strengthen the weak guy and it's I. Mean I don't need the medical definition I just didn't I've never seen anything like that Paris Hilton, but I guess I never noticed. Queen is more common than you think because you can't always detect it not always to forest whittaker slapping Canada, so we may be guessing a celebrity who quote unquote has a lazy eye, but nobody knows because they've trained it. Is that what I'm hearing? Is that what you're saying or you May? It may be like only a little bit lazy, and then some are very lazy. If you're maybe new to the show once a day, we do a segment where we talk about lazy is. You're in it right now. In. This is going to be fun right so I haven't at one a piece. Is that right in this competition? Yes, forest whittaker is rolling over in his grave. He's not. But if he was dead, he'd still be rolling all right. Tell me this celebrity. That has the Lazy I well first of all to thank you for this bitch and hat. My head perfect. And I love it. A we're glad you like it and also to answer your question Sir. It was sort of like pathway made a golden light came down from the spatial. WHO's boy anyway? You seem to be the only one who has any skill at this competition. That is force her into answering. The man at the beginning of that clip. Okay see if this. On without an ad, no, of course I have to have an ad I hang on just a second. Maybe if you prerecorded these earlier worth. You know what. You come up with your own game before lineker birthday. You do it your way and I'll do it my way. You're right. It does work well all right here. We go first of all like to thank you for this bitch and hat. My head perfect. And I love it. No well. We're glad you. have an idea, but if I guess I'll probably get it wrong. I want to screw over Angela so I'm going to write it down. Down to prove that she might have had it. All right I don't think any of US know. All right that's Ryan Gosling. It sounds like neighbor Godsey, but I'm like. Why would he be Sitcom? That's why I didn't want to say that all right next offering. Tell me this celebrity with Lazy I. Say No to the pig in a weird way, I wanNA give the PGA kiss. Kiss from Heidi Josie. The female right Heidi Clue. Has a lazy eye. All right next offering Geez. It's the female. Juicy. Juicy Smith Prints juicy written on your buck. I don't know. I don't Chelsea might. Kristen Bell Kristen Bell is correct. I strength. That was a good one. Yes, she talks about juicy, but in clip by the way by the way That's a win free. And not a minute to say. I mean I. I don't think I knew that. Any of those that you name have a quote Unquote Lazy I. It makes it tougher usually much better with voices. One so. It's realize. Thank you! Linda. Sorry Charlene appreciate the efforts. Happy Birthday Mr Forest Whittaker. You are tremendous. 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Highlights from Monocle 24

Monocle 24: The Curator

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Highlights from Monocle 24

"Hello and welcome to the curator on Monica. Twenty four with me. Tom Edwards and me Fianna was to shake over the next sixty minutes. We'll bring you some of the very best interviews and reports here from Monaco twenty four we've highlights for our students here. Emmy, very house and from around the world this week financial don't stop may. Now as the next hour will req- astronomy astrophysics and even not comes from instinct Divi as in the beginning. Yes. You work on them. You know? So I see a lot of similarities, and I don't really feel that anything different is going on in my brain. When I'm in this on TV world from when I'm in the steel, we discuss space with the legendary guitarist Brian May. Plus, we hear a long tail our tolls story around the museum here, they date to between about seventy two and seventy million years old, and it was actually found among the bones of a partially articulated hadrosaur. Duckbilled dinosaur type a plant eater. So I think this source was actually munching on the duck billed dinosaur broke off this tooth and left it behind. It. Sounds like we have a mammoth show ahead all that and more besides including terrible puns on the curator. With may Tom Edwards and me fanatic by Schick? Well, here we often under the curator. It's always a delight to sit here with you in one and pick just the the fillets as they would say outside of the the very choicest cuts from the past seven days, and we're starting with well, certainly a big name and soft rock one of the biggest it's Brian May, of course, and Toho was lucky to meeting almost Xidan. It's talk about the cause moose. That's right. He's a big name. And he wasn't even had to talk about Queen subject because that big biotech. That's out at the moment. Instead Brian was hair talk about his latest project, which is a book mission moon in three D celebrating fifty years since the Paulo moon landings and the space race. It's co written with the editor of strategy magazine. David Aisha it compiles images of the missions of the sixties and seventies presented in stereoscopic vision. What does that even mainframe though? I don't know. I think we should find out Monaco's. Don't recently my David and Brian at the London signs museum to find out. Well, if I say three d probably resonates more Disney. There's nothing new under the sun after eighteen thirty two really when such oswego tone discovered this principle that you you captured two views of your surroundings one for each I from slightly different viewpoints. And you recombine them using stereotype, and you get this complete illusion of reality. And of course, it's all surface recently with virtual reality. If it was something new, but basically that's virtual reality is with the added trick of the three sixty things that you can turn your head around. But the Victorians absolutely went nuts for three. And there was a stereo scoping every home, which is what the London stereoscopic company strived for. So in the twenty first century. I am now the London stereoscopic company because I chose to give it a rebirth. And this book is one of our projects and the most exciting, and and new thing we've ever done and David has woven various threads into the book about what was happening socially and political at the time and even musically. So this book, we think even though with fifty years down the line from the Apollo eleven moon landings, this is something very new and something which we hope will involve a whole new generation of people and inspire them to look up at the sky, and David I mean, Brian seamlessly came onto my next question almost there the space race it was a race. That's why has that name and the two main players worthy USA in Russia. But the interesting thing about this book is that it doesn't just focus on one side or the side where maybe the information is a little bit more easily obtainable. Which is the US side. Why did Russia never get to the moon, or why did they stop trying because it's not like the sense of competition would have gone away. Wherever very real technical concerns about what I could not really maintain that that place in this rest. Well, you're right. I mean it was a political race. And it never would have happened. Had it not been for the Cold War competition, of course, growing out of what to do with the world after the second World War. It was a very sad and unfortunate set of circumstances in the Soviet Union that led to its lunar program to land men on the moon to Peter out. It would have been possibly Alexi Leonov who became a friend of ours in a compatriot at the storm is festival who might have been the circumstances unfolded the first Soviet man on the surface of the moon. But there were accidents. There was a terrible accident early on it the bike in order cosmodrome that killed a number of people. There were some key people engineers who including this leading Soviet engineer who died, sadly, there were accidents Eureka Garin. Of course, died tragically in a fighter jet crash along with others and the Russians were competitive set of organizations, so they had competing groups going of engineers who were going with their group to make it happen. I rather than the more collaborative United States that had all the resources poured into one direction. So all those factors by the time. Apollo eight happened because they're Americans setbacks and tragedies and deaths in the Apollo one fire as well. But by the time Apollo eight happened and the first big step to orbit the moon in come back and test the basic parameters of what became a the Apollo landing the momentum of the Soviet program petered out because of all those factors. Brought I wanted to ask you about the two sides of your career will the, you know, the main ones of music making and strana me one of them to me, it feels very so. Happy accidents experimenting. And so of messing around really to get something that you come out of it with a something really value. But with astronomy a much much more. Well, it scientific by its nature is much more calculating do use similar skills in both fields or they completely different. You know, we'll strangely enough. I think you and I would both brought up in a world which considered science to be one end of spectrum and the arts to be at the other end. I don't believe that. I never have believed, and there is much more sort of instinct on haphazard stuff that happens in science than you might realize, you know, having had my feet in both worlds all along. I see them as very similar, you know, astronomy astrophysics and even not comes from instinct divide as in the beginning. Yes. You work on them. But that's the same in music. You have an instinct, you have a feeling something you want to transmit, and then you work on it. You know? So I see a lot of similarities, and I don't really these days feel that anything different is going on in my brain. When. I'm in the scientific world from when I'm in in the world. I mean, one of on guests today will be Matt Taylor. Who's the the proteins two of the Rosetta mission? You know, a high level NASA scientist NASA and Esa scientists, you know, he's the biggest heavy metal freak I've ever met in my life. And you only go to look at his body to confirm that you know, he has Stein tattooed. But he has lemme on the other side. And this epistle is is to me that, you know, autzen science on no longer separate they feed off each other. They enjoy too, and I think the complete human being has to open his mind to all of it. You know, that's what he's in the universe. There is there is science. There is beauty. And there is a cosmos out there. And you know, what it's the same thing. You know, we're all in the same place. And if we open our eyes, we can see that do any of the members of the band still with us. Oh, no longer with us today. Share your enthusiasm for astronomy. And is it something that the band could get into a whole very much Brian thing? I think that we're all interested, and I was sitting without drama Roja. And he's mom and sister downing Cohen will win Neil Armstrong might that giant step. So yes, they're interested. They deeply passionate about it. As I am, obviously, because we will have things that we get into, you know, but yes, and I've showed this book to Roja, and he was very interesting. I mean, which is a rather intellectual person. Anyway. So he's a wear of everything, you know. I don't have Freddie around anymore show it to him, but he would have loved him without down. And he was excited about stuff and Joan, unfortunately, we lost you on as well because he doesn't communicate with us these days, which is a great sadness. But that's the way he wants it. And that's the way he needs it. We'll have our own requirements to move forward in life. But yeah, I think you know, I have the blessing of of my band to do this. It's something which does fulfill a dream for me. It completes another circle fifty years. If you like, but to put this book out and hopefully bring the excitement of the space race to a new generation is something which makes me feel very good. Brian May David Aisha discussing then you book mission moon and three day stars of old different sorts Herrmann. Twenty exactly and we'll you see human representing the cinema. Interestingly I'm not the biggest fan of Queen around. However ramming apparently is excellent, Freddie. Mercury. I know for mister robot the show, which was which was excellent. So apparent his stellar. I'm gonna check it out and some good fake teeth as well. This is the curator on Monaco twenty full way from space adventures too. Well, rather different type of adventure finance next as this week's episode of interpreters host Daniel Bauge said down with the founders of flashback did venture company caters to solo travelers in their thirties and forties, looking to meet like minded people and with a budget that allows them to travel with a bit of style and comfort founders Lee Thompson and rod VS are a couple decided to start the company after that first date with investment of a few thousand pounds each back in twenty thirteen Lee and Rawda have grown flashback into a ten million pound business. His Lee first of all flash pack, connect solo travelers in thirties and forties to share extraordinary adventures in style and comfort. So it's really targeting time poll cash-rich professionals who don't have anyone struggle with and read a tell me about this idea of flash packing. What's your idea of? Of that. And how does it sort of represent what the brand is today? Vini started. Because back in my twenties. I was an avid backpack. And I found as I was coming into my thatch es and approaching my forties. You know, I didn't want to stay in hostels anymore. And I did want to have same travel experience. I had the same spirit and ethos as backpacker I wanted adventure. I wanted dynamic itinery by wanted to TCI tell at the end of the day, I think there's a lot of people that fit into that category. And it's a new Tam that's being banded about flash packing. I think we we didn't Queen the time. But we definitely built a business on the back of that travel dos. Leona just ask you about your professional background 'cause I know your photojournalist for a long time so becoming an entrepreneur and launching your own brand. How did that come about? What sort of the steps that led to that? Yes. I traveled to over one hundred different countries as a photo journalist covering anything from war zones to natural disasters and major sporting events. How to really? Extraordinary career did things like it was like one of the first people to find Colonel Gadhafi's body just after he was killed in Libya to covering the Arab spring's in Tunisia. Egypt, and I really had a privileged career where I got to see a different side of country than the average person gets to see, and I guess that fueled my passion for adventure off the beaten path travel experiences. This idea I guess I've been looking for something different than photo journalism for a few years, and then I met Rawda on author state. And basically, we go to gray the wireless flowing conversation was flowing, and she tells me about this business idea she has on immediately. I just resonated with NFL. This is what we're going to do it just sounded so good. I was single in my tease, and essentially mentioned this concept of group adventure for people in these votes. He's that was a and we haven't paxon's route. I'd like to chart a little bit of your background as well and sort of. Leading up to the launch of this company meeting Lee was was a big part of that getting off the ground. But what were you doing before that? Yeah, I run a consultancy fem raising money from high net worth individuals for the sectors really nothing to do with travel. But I'd be an avid traveler since I was three G to my parents being really into adventure travel, and they were quite of God in their approach and even my sister, and I to Africa Asia nine two on our invitation months to visit family would never met. And I think that really kind of mended. My passion for travel, and I'd been travelling Evison. So I lived in south of France before I went Tina Vesti I studied in Madrid. Did my dissertation out that in Spanish and lived in Wotton Chile before coming to London to start my Karan. And when I found this gap in the market, just fout the perfect fit on you. Exactly why when David the rest of my life. Can you explain a little bit about that? What sort of gap you saw in the market, and where the idea for this company where you thought that could fill that void. Yeah. Absolutely. Cannot. A genuine need. I I was at point in my life as my sat had been working really hard will year and just needed a holiday started setting around and asking friends he wanted to come along with me, and nobody was available. Everybody was busy with rain respective lives. Career is having children getting married, and I was I suppose to point my life. I felt slightly isolated and lonely setting up another business and craved really good company. A good friend of mine suggested I go on a group tool, and it's it wasn't concept. I'd have a head before I didn't think something that was available for someone my age and are feeling a little bit fended as she even suggested that I thought of myself as an intrepid travel, add solar traveled all my life by very much intrigued by this idea of group travel and traveling with strangers. And when I started researching the mall, I realized that was really catering to budget Pakis young people. He wanted to party all the time or the more luxurious tools to kind of flash packing towards catering to senior market with really. Slow. I tin reason. I was something in between. I wanted dynamic adventure. But with a boutique hotel, and it just really intrigued man, I thought that must be lots of people out that my age who find that their social circles are shrinking as they get older people are busy with their lives. And I started researching them all and realized it was a huge opportunity. The singles market is growing labeling. I think by twenty thirty they'll be more single households than married households people choosing to settle down much later on not selling down tool. It's legitimate lifestyle. Choice and intendant adventure. Travel market was growing sixty five percent year on year, globally, the industry's west sixty five two hundred sixty five billion globally, and it just got me really excited. And I thought I could do something session in this space. There was little rather views the husband and wife team behind flesh back the adventure travel company. Speaking to Monaco's Daniel bait for this week's addition of interpreters. Often. I can tell you this. If I decided to go on venture holiday. It would definitely have to include top foodie destinations and given that I think Copenhagen would vary will be on the list. So good news for me as this week's menu. We met Danish food writer Trina Hanane who's focused on her home city Copenhagen Fay in new book. The Danish capital certainly has the story to tau as just a couple of decades. It has emerged as one of the world's top culinary distant Asians, however, treat, it doesn't only focus on the food. You get in finding stylish wants. Instead, she also wanted to share some of the classic Danish food traditions stories and recipes, and you know, I love Copenhagen I was just a few weeks ago, and I've ate very well there have to say, but before her and Monaco's Markle's EP delved into what happens. Danish home kitchens. They talked about the huge Kunar revolution that the city went through earlier this decade ten fifteen years ago and all happen when Nomo and and we have had a revolution. I would say more or less because. We have a home culture, that's very very strong and going out for data with something special. Not something you just did on everyday basis. I think I was probably sixteen before I went to restaurants first time in my life. So I would say Kogas different city today. I think that's an astonishing story nodoze kupuna. Guinness Oviously known internationally atop clause Kuna, reduced the nation. Was it all don't know. Were there some of the contributing factors as well. But made Copenhagen what it is today. Of course, it's never just down to one thing. But it had a huge influence because it brought in a lot of international people, and they had to eat other places. Well, so they were there to help create a business for other restaurants. But of course, there's some pioneers who were they up you phone, my who did who had you know, who create some really beautiful restaurants. I mean, we're like a guy Rene trained, and there's a lot of other places of cost, you just know out of nothing doesn't exist. But the initial transformation actually, I believe comes from from Noma in that sense. You have no released Copenhagen food stories traditions, and recipes what's going to think would you want the readers of this book loan from these pages. I would like them to learn about the the more everyday culture, you know, like going to the to the the the little on known cafe in in the area where you're staying try the different hotdogs, you know, hang out in coffee pases, probably not the hippest place. You know? I mean getting real feel, you know, get on a bike bicycle around. She's a city enjoy the light enjoy the different kind of us. We get through a day. And you know, you know. Yeah. Like, the feel of it. And also that it's it's a very friendly city. I think and it's it's small so you can get around and see it all in four days more or less, which I think is unique and it's beautiful. So I think we have a lot to offer except from the food. Exactly. I totally agree with that. What kind of secrets does Copenhagen still have what can people find? If they go off the most Beason poff. I think the biggest secret is the picnics that you should actually go to go to bakery by bread Goto the shunned by some. Cuts. You know, go somewhere and buys them via whine and go to one of the many, beautiful pox all at the hop site and have a picnic. You know, no matter what time of year, it is as long as doesn't rain or snow. You'll be fine. I think that that's what Copenhagen knows do, you know, as soon as we see, you know, the opportunity Ford, we will create something where we can sit outside and enjoy food and drink in this in this book share about seventy or so recipes, what's the story of these recipes they all kind of every day. So if you are not travelling to Copenhagen anytime soon, you could make him young kitchen, so they obeyed of the tradition, but also a bit of the modern Copenhagen, there's a lot of places to find seasonal salads fish. But there's also traditional sandwiches the meat balls, which we called Francavilla with cabbage. You know? So I think it's a it's a broad selection, but also very personal selection because it's what I what what is the recipe for me growing up in in Copenhagen that I'm sharing. Much. This an interesting division between what you get from Copenhagen restaurants, Danes, actually home. Oh, yeah. The new Nordic we do not eat at home. That's you know, that is a very elaborate, and very intellectual kind of cuisine that I really love. But I don't think it represents the daily life that will be much more the open witches arrive. Right. But also all the baking, you know, that bakeries everyone Copenhagen because we actually do eat a lot of bread and have lots of meals where Britta British pot of it. When people think about Denmark, one thing people think about his Hugh. Yeah. What is the connection between who food? I think that in the Danish culture. You don't ask people? How they are. You offer them something to drink eat before anything else. So as soon as somebody steps into your house, you say would you like some coffee, and I also have some biscuits and buns with or something like that. So so right away, you try to create intimacy Fru food, and that is the moment you lit the candle, and and you don't really necessarily talk about how you are. I thought you just hang out. Exactly. That's that's the Nordic. I'm wondering what's your whole tape? Let's watch that. That our listeners are inviting their friends over what what would they serve to follow the rules or the practice of who. Right now, Soubanh and bread. I oughta then at like, there's a recipe for a baked turbot. So very hookah meal is something you share? So you put it on the table for people to share and dig into gather, and and and keep it informal and never tell people into leave. That's very important because Danes love to hang out into the early hours Trina hundred in conversation with Marcus and train his new book, Copenhagen food stories traditions, and recipes is out. Now, you here with the curator our weekly highlight show here monocle twenty four and I am I share coup joining studio by Edward. Hello now time for a highlight. From this week's dishes of toll stories Fe for the latest edition. We took a trip to a place where dinosaurs once Rome's not back in time. But to drum Hella a small town of only eight thousand people in central Alburto. It's the home of Canada's only museum dedicated to the science of paleontology are contributing editor Sheena Rossiter. To journey through the grounds. Making your way into the Elbert badlands. Makes you feel like you've arrived scene from drastic part. After driving by flat canola fields and caddo firms for hours the landscape takes a sherpa shift when huge chunk of beige rock with layers of different sediments stacked on top of one another telling geological story through time. And then all of a sudden jutting out of the Canadian prairies out of nowhere. It's a desert in the middle of one of the coldest countries on earth. And it's fascinating. It's truly a breathtaking sight out here in the hoodoo valley just outside the city of drum Heller with all these badlands. You just see this huge sediment of layered rock that just rises out of the deep prairies here in L Berta. It's truly amazing that this is once where the dinosaurs roamed. But inside the walls of the Royal cheerle- museum is where the dinosaur magic really begins unfold. Hemmer white is a security supervisor for the real cheerle- museum. And he's worked here for fifteen years. He explains what building the real Chiro museum in drum Heller is a dream for any paleontologist. We are not just a museum. We are a full peeling to logical research facility as well. What's very unique about us is that we are stationed in a area of badlands. So kind of an area of really high rates of erosion and the time that dinosaurs were living. There was a lot of dinosaurs kind of around this part of the world. So a lot of them die here and fossilized here, and we find lots of them here. So it was kind of a perfect place to build a museum like this. But the town of drum Heller and the birthplace of the Royal Chiro museum. Only came about by accident. The real reason why people started to come to this area was in search for well Cole Cameron white. Explain. More coal mining was really really big and through that Joseph Burtel who the museum is named after was actually working for the Geological Survey of Canada looking for coal in this area and came across the first operetta source skull. So that kind of role the bit of the early dinosaur exploration that really happened in this valley when he found that I call he stumbled across something, and they was just like really sharp looking teeth that would be sticking out of the ground. So as they did some more investigation on it realized it was something more than just rocks and kind of dug it out, and it turned out to be the very first Oprah source skull. We're Nichols is head of exhibit services here at the museum. He's in charge building, all the exhibits. He tells me about a recent exhibit. That's been created in the museum. The most recent one would be the Devonian reef exhibit upstairs we opened it on may long weekend. And it was a renovation of an existing space. But there were a lot of specimens and time periods that were missing. From the previous iteration of it. We worked with our in house designers and the in house fabricators, and basically moved a bunch of walls around built new cases for everything and went from. I think we had twenty or thirty specimens. And now there's just over a hundred I think up there. So it's a lot more in depth and a lot more detailed information. This is one of the richest areas in the world for dinosaur fossils that's cream christianson a gallery experience officer here at the museum. He's been working here for four years Graham, walks around the museum every day with a bag full of dinosaur fossils, sharing his knowledge passion with those who are willing to learn about it. He tells us a bit more about a dinosaur tooth that. He has in his bag shed tooth of a large predator. We had. Here in Albert called Elbert Soroush. So it's from the rocks around the museum here, which are part of the horseshoe. Canyon formation around the museum here they to between about seventy two and seventy million years old. So this is how the celebrate source tooth is. Then it was actually found among the bones of a partially disarmed lated hadrosaurs duck billed dinosaur type a plant eater. So I think this source was actually munching on the duck billed Orrin broke off this tooth and left it behind and this is something we pretty commonly find among the skeletons of planting dinosaurs. Or the the shed teeth of meters, which is good for us because we know who was eating whom. So how old is that again between about seventy two and seventy million years old. It's it's hard to peg down the exact age, but what we can do is. We can get an age range by dating volcanic Ashley above and below the fossil. So we use radiometric dating techniques that use the steady radioactive decay of atoms to indicate the age fossil not far away from Graham, I'm Katie strong, a lab technician at the museum. A group of kids gather around here curiously looking at what she's doing? She's cleaning up a fossil that has been found here. Now Berta as she dusts away the fossil with a fine brush. She tells us more about what she's doing. Right now, I'm working on part of a fossil from type of restore or duck billed dinosaur, whose is part of the skull of the dinosaurs was found in two thousand sixteen in dinosaur, provincial park, southern Alberta. Not too far from here now so about two or three hours south of here. What are you doing right now? Can you just tell her listeners three? No, I'm just cleaning off some of the rock that's covering up the fossil when we find a fossil will try to dig around and cover it with some plaster and paper towel to help. Protect it. Then we'll take it out of the ground and bring it back to the museum to do all of the fine detailed cleaning of the fossil dinosaur enthusiasts are not thrilled. Cheerle- museum is like no place other end. It's an easy place to get lost in your imagination of what it was like when the dinosaurs once roamed. For monocle in drum Heller Alberto Canada. I'm Sheena Rossiter. Thanks shayna. This is the curator on monocle twenty four. Tono? Let's move from dinosaurs Lila's Malla creatures now absolutely different from playful cats trees to concrete, Doug homes, and luxury chicken coops, a new book explores examples of clever sometimes humorous al-qatiba foot -s, well, Monaco's doff. Nick, your knees spoke to the team behind the book pets texture, Virginia, McLeod and tone, Wainwright for loans of hundred years, we've had cages and beds, essentially, just being putting four, but there's a dog or cat sort of just being the minimum. And I feel that it's being shifts Manasseh of treating pets Simmons the way we treat like kids family now they've just think every every design we came across just every now is treated with as much space as you would buy human furnishings. But that was discovered along the way. Yeah. You said that we treating. Pets more more like pop the family. Do you think? That's what to do with the way that way living as humans. We're living in smaller and smaller spaces, so we're in much closer proximity with pets. And I saw specific example, I think on page ninety two of this doghouse sofa, which is a so for that we can see two very sweet dog. But this this space enough full human to sit on as well. Right and would fit easily into a small apartment where you might live with your dog. Yeah. Definitely a lot zion's very conscious of as you're saying how living now so living in small spaces with these animals trying to figure out how to make furniture, the brings them closer to the family. But also says, but if the interior space is well, I think in a lot of coaches, whether not just western coaches, either just rich coaches that animals, especially small domestic pets like and dogs really being treated like parts of the family more than ever before the some sort of Fantastico statistic about Korea. That like every other night t pets everyone personal something and that really part of the family in terms of clothing and bedding and the way they looked after and loved is as much as any any other human in their family. So, you know, these designs that we say in the book catering to that the way that people really feel about animals, and I think the Mahatma Gandhi, quote, that's in the book something today with a measure of a society's progress, and like moral performance is can be seen in the way, they treat the animals. So I think many countries can be very proud of themselves, including this one in that we do that. And just as out tell me about what research went into the book festival. The research was amazing and essentially looking at pictures of q animals day was I think I was so surprised because when you you said look at this so take a look around for any design any piece of architecture design pets, I'd never seen anything really. Really know what it was. And then quite quickly. I just saw the wells. These Mazen designs for all different types, van wills and. Yeah, it was a lot of stuff. Actually, I feel like it's quite recent phenomenon is I feel like there's still a lot more coming. We would get. We would get excited when when we'd be able to add another animal to the book as Thomas they like found something for bees for shape. Whatever went great. Some of the objects and designs, it's it's obvious. What they what the aim as for example, shelter or as you say cooling, quite functional. Actually, you know, do have an impact on the well-being of the animal, but others might be slightly whimsical, and maybe more of the newsman if humans, so where do you think that the value line lies, and is kind of a thin line as to whether these designs are actually useful in making an impact or whether maybe they're just something for us to almost detain ourselves. A think that like I know the kind of project that you're talking about in the book and there's a good field of them. Because with some reason a lot of people at using pets, and they place in our wealth as a kind of a jumping off point to explore ideas and to express them through a projects. But I think a lot of those projects which may look a little fof edged or even a little confrontational often meant as kind of sculptural designs not. Actually meant for the a pet to sort of inhabit them the Bill. The bullet bud house, for example, yet more sculptural pieces of sculpture basement, and it's also kind of protest legal hunting in the Lebanon. They may have bullets that picked up on old hunting ground. So it's making its point through very beautiful object other things that to raise money and awareness, full, feral cats and stray dogs and also things like that. So also often they might look impractical. Or, you know, wh why on earth would you put a pet in in something like this? But it's actually not actually intended for that. It's intended to make a point and raise awareness for something that doesn't animals good those tone, Wayne writes that project editor of the book, Pat texture and Virginia McLeod commissioning editor at fighting for more design stories tuning to the latest episode of Monaco on design available, Monaco dot com. I choose or Spotify. This is the curator Monaco twenty four me, Tom Edwards and fifth and up. Oh, choosing allies. From the past seven days on the station. Now, if a book about pets tech didn't quite flat your boat. I don't do about Fidel little unconvinced, maybe this next book will highlight from monocle show dedicated to the wonders of the world of print show fair you and I worked together on each week stack. Absolutely. A pleasure every week Thome this time, I spoke to mighty suit anti, you know, the legendary fashion photographer, you know, he's been featured vogue w magazine Harper's bazaar. He used to date. Kate moss, in fact, and they had also working relationship, and he basically just launched a new book co Kate with beautiful quite intimate pictures of Kate moss as well a beautiful reads, but we also discussed more about fashion photography in general. Interesting stuff. Let's hear what Mario serenity had say. I was studying painting at school and sculpture school of visual arts through some friends. I came across photography day where. Studying photography, and I just fell in love with photography at that point. I was living in New York. It was nineteen eighty nine. Once I discovered photography. I dropped painting. And I dropped out of school. And I was like, that's it. I'm just gonna take pictures. I wanna learn how to do photography and. I started modeling and meta model agent and modeling a little bit in New York here and there, and I started taking some pictures of some models and stuff in New York. And then my agent was like, oh, why don't you go to Europe? And you know, try and make some money in Europe. You know, there's a there's a lot of models there. And there's a big market there and stuff, and I was like, okay. That'd be great. I'd love to go and the Scarver England and France. And so I went it was actually on a modeling job hearing London that I met Kate for the first time. It was nineteen years old, my heart, just stopped. Wow. This is amazing. She was funny and quirky and beautiful. And then I didn't see her for awhile again. And then we met up again through some friends and stuff a couple of months later and a few months of that. We started dating the pictures. We see in the book at what stage did you ever thought that you win to release them to the world the pitchers in the book were all shot between nineteen ninety one and three. There is about two three pitchers that I had printed before that kind of been around a little bit. But never really published in any books or anything all the rest of the photographs just sat in my archives for twenty years until about ten years ago. My wife started archiving in digitizing, all my film, putting everything in order, and she came across all the photographs and choose like, you should really see these pitchers or great. And I was like oh didn't really have much interest. And then I kind of like looked at them. And then I showed them to a friend of mine that I was working within his Friedman who is mazing creative director that I was working with a lot and he flipped out over to. Like, wow, these are amazing. You have to do something with a. So we started editing pictures together just to see if there was anything, really good. They're really photographic -ly relevant. Once we started seeing all the work come together. We were like, wow. This is great. There's something really beautiful here. Let's do a book. He came to me news like, oh, I'm working with finding and this would be a great home, photos, photographs them. We just got into printing and stuff. And what was Kate's reaction the pictures? Did you like to enjoy this kind of for her? It was very sweet it was like looking back at all the pitchers and remembering those years in those times. And you know, I remember when that happened or this that and she really loved the pitchers really enjoyed looking at them. And also really understood the body of work, and what we had added together. And I think she was very supportive and gave us her blessing and stuff clearly shoes, amused, time, and Shing. Lynne's to your your work after this shoot small Kate. And I were together we were living together we grew up together in those three years a lot. We both started with nothing in both began our careers. That was something that you kind of never forget in your life. You know, we were big part of each other careers N lives, and then we continue to work together through the last twenty years twenty five years and stuff. So and we've remained good friends. So we've influenced each other a lot magin living with somebody who's like completely obsessive photography and constantly absorbing everything about it and artists and the art of Todd Affi and everything. So inevitably you're going to start looking at what you do as a model in photography net completed from way for me coming from America and coming here to England and meeting a girl like Kate who was had so much style. And she was so. Oh, cool and simple and easy. And it was like always a big influence on me as well from a cultural and stylistic point of view and stuff. So we had a very powerful exchange of who we were also very powerful bond. I think when you can see that in the pictures away and minor just a question. I mean do book is seen of beauty wonderful pictures wonderful format as well. I was wondering are used to very much love brings in general. Because of course, you work for several magazine titles. These still have that passionate to perhaps print is still king from me. I love print. I'd love it so much and. Just the idea that it might disappear. One day just breaks, my heart. And I don't think it will. Because there is just nothing like holding a print in your hand. Whether it's a magazine a book an actual photographic print. I love to see my work printed in magazines in books. It's very intimate. You're very wide because people say oh print is dying perhaps in the world of newspapers. But when it comes to fashion, I think there is something to be sad about touching a magazine and looking at a photo shoots. But by you, for example, any the great photographer defending fashion of Inc will be safe for now when it comes to to printing away. Yeah. I think so there's a lot of magazines that are coming out. There's such an incredible saturation of magazines and every day, you think people are saying, oh, it's gonna disappear and NEC another magazine appearing and stuff. So let's say digital media dust takeover rogue one. Point. I don't think magazines will completely disappear. Actually, I think they will become more treasured and more important that was Mary Sorrento Kate the book that I mentioned that as published by fide, and it's out now, and you can catch the stack every week will wouldn't you live Saturdays ten AM London time. Oh, anytime as a cost via the website or wherever you find your favorite audio. You are with the curator. Our weekly highlights show here monocle twenty four and I am in the by shake joining studio by tone Adler. Now, we were talking about the stack old one does the world of print, shall we take a look back now series, which celebrated the latest edition of another venerable offer in the world of print our own, Monaco magazine. Of course, absolutely. A more progressive political has swept into Moncloa the Spain's presidential palace. And he wants the world to know it in the new edition of monocle magazine are manage read. Leonardo's recaps the Spanish Prime ministers backed travel schedule. Business will be agnosio. Can units funeral need. Since toppling his reticent predescessor money on a in June, new prime minister, hetero Sanchez has jetted off the six state visits late on the chum at several summits and hosted a litany of leaders back harm. A break with convention by Spanish litas, make Morocco the first ficials stop sensuous, flew to fronts instead to talk migration. With a Manuela Macron tiff he needs loonies will heat up the Medica on hippie fica, UNICEF rallies. In august. Sights were set on lesson America. First stop chilly dogged by domestic headlines. There was a noticeable to Spain's historical memory challenge with Franco as Sanchez visited Santiago's Mozelle, LA memoria. He made a point of sharing his belief that a similar museum in Spain would help heal the wounds of the Franco dictatorship. We'll be able to get Teela KOMO pretty metal teen. When you're giving them but the meniscus Imos, spend your news. I'm gonna his Chilean hosts seemed eager to impress local daily, less wound reported that ripe oranges had been hung with wires to patio. Trees of the presidential palace to spruce up the gala dinner. Next a state visit to Bolivia the first by a Spanish leader in two decades. It was here leader Evan Morales bestowed. Sanchez the great necklace of the Condor of the end is Bolivia's highest on eminent services to the nation. It might to break from a long belt of quiet yet fractious relations between the two countries mud by several expropriations of Spanish companies Sunkist turn the page signing commercial agreements with ten billion euros starting back. Visi mall. The bay. After offering to broker the stoled Colombian peace process in Boca, the PM rounded out the week with a warm welcoming co study and a two of the headquarters of the inter American clause of human rights. Returning home to the rigid realities of minority government. It wasn't long before he gets it off. Again this time to Canada cozying up to Trudeau at Canada twenty twenty summit where the he'd consider following his progressive hosts footsteps by legalizing cannabis in. Spain says quipped I've already got enough problems. With his UNH's simply address highlighting house. Spain hasn't lurched to the right? Also, come to NFO BIA despite a crippling economic crisis. The real diplomatic coup was a meeting on the sidelines with new Cuban leader Miguel de canal confirmed a few weeks later LA Havana is set for the first official state. Visit by Spanish leader of drew a thirty two year. Hiatus this November the rather aloof diplomatic relationship seems poise for a reboot. The linguistic fumbles and frequent faux pas on the world stage of foam PM, Madonna caused plenty of chagrin back home. But as the first Spanish of fluent in English Sundays can comfortably cozy up to like minded leaders giving the interpreters of break. Also, Maine's a Spanish voice can easily reassert itself into the international compensation, especially with regard to the fulfillment of human rights on all the conventions that we are willing to fulfill the ranks of rousing left-leaning leaders may be shrinking on the world stage. But Spain's budding statesman is stepping up using his majority female cabinet, more, compassionate, attitude. Refugee arrivals an efforts to zoom Franko as capital to bolster a progressive profile abroad and just like the right oranges that will reportedly attached to trees at Chili's gala dinner, the PM whose minority government is less than a shoal will be hoping an aggressive international agenda will stop. Airing similarly, speedy political and economic. Monocle madrid? I'm lame oldest. Thank you. You can read more stories like that in the excellent new edition of monocle magazine. It's on old good new stands right now. What are you waiting full pay? And I guess we're staying the world of politics now tone to straight absolutely Fay in a historic upset. Australia's governing coalition lost its one seat parliamentary majority following a by election in the Sydney electric Wentworth for this week's edition of the foreign desk. Explain Andrew Molex plane. Why this came as a shock and asks if Australian conservatism has wanted deep into the ideological weeds. John Morrison this wave. Truly sued the stride in the office of prime is and all the inaugural. Scott Morrison became a straighten his forty seventh prime minister in the last three months something like that. Anyway, it's getting tough to keep up his chances of staying in office long enough to enjoy any redecoration. He may have requested took a significant dip at the weekend. When his party contrived to lose a by-election for one of the safest seats in the country and in so doing to the coalition they lead into a minority government. I knew there would be tough ties, and that would be great. Today is a tough day. But the gripe dies coming. Resulted. I is on liberals not on dive sham. The federal electorate of windless embraces several of the richest suburbs of Sydney, the most expensive city in one of the world's wealthiest countries. Went with has been a look for the liberal party. That Morrison leads since that party was founded in nineteen forty four. You'll remind that astrology is liberal party is actually straights conservative party and for the liberals ancestor parties all the way back to a stray his first general election in nineteen a one the MP who've AK to the seat was Morrison's immediate predescessor as prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, who as recently as two thousand sixteen retained the seat with sixty two percent of the vote. So the liberal parties should know more lose Wentworth than a strenuous. Cricket team should lose a test match to Greenland bellarusse, but lose they have and they're tiny parliamentary majority with it. One the say to win it would make history, and my friends we have made history. With sufficient time having now elapsed too damn those torrents of Shotton Freud delays tiers of lofta the questions of how and why must be addressed. The liberals loss of Wentworth is a consequence of hubris specifically the kind of complacency that can sit in when you've held a seat for hundred seventeen years the candidate. They stood was a solid if uninspiring technocrat who doesn't even live in Wentworth, although in Dave Shamas defense few people can't afford to. It's the kind of place where even Malcolm Turnbull splendid homicide pile doesn't seem unto Woodley instantaneous, and he'd been reluctant to relocate to the prime minister's official residence because he didn't want to move to a small house. Has to stay in his fifty million. Plus harvested mansion rather than move into the official Sydney residents curability house. The prime minister said his own house is closer to his grandson. And that he and his wife will use cure fluid official functions. And let's get up. What do you think? But to criticize the liberals choice of candidate is to say, nothing of the monstrous blundered coz the by election in the first place, which was the liberal party's decision to oust Turnbull, the full the indices Thome in an attempt to bathe in a more popular newly before the next general election due by may two thousand nineteen if opinion polls and now went with any guide the liberals have committed the Aira recently endemic industry in politics of choosing lead. A better liked by these Ellas party hardcore than Barney a bewildered voting public. Which brings us to what might be gleaned from went with choice of new MP. The by election win works. She is Karen Philps previously, president of the in medical association and deputy Lord mills Sydney, she stood for Wentworth. It should be made clear as an independent the world has not turned entirely upside down and the liberals losing Wentworth to labor would not merely be like a strong critic team losing test match to Greenland bellarusse, but to Greenland will Bill Russa's Boskin bowl squad. But it's what Phillips believes and perhaps who Philps is which suggests that the liberal party might of misjudge the direction in which the wind is blowing. The liberal party has long banked usually correctly on the idea that forest straightens, economic conservatism and social conservatism of the same thing. The voters of Wentworth are begging to Diffa Vova on as unlikely as ever to hoist the scarlet Stein to join a chorus of the Internationale a and begin distributing this bay to factory workers. They've just elected a woman who's policy priorities are climate change. And the fight of asylum seekers marooned on the rue industry is offshore holding facility. Say to any young people any women any aspiring independence out of the if you thinking of running parliament will running public office. Yes. In can be tough. Yes. The ROY can be hard. But it is worth while that we have the run papers stepping up to rig resent is strongly is now only just governing party has me a month to get a more persuasive act together else, spare thought for observers overstrain in politics who will find themselves confronting these six occupant of the prime minister's office this decade and with all the jokes about revolving doors and the two seats already long since done. From twenty four. I'm andrew. Well, that's all we got time for this week's edition of the curator. It's been a pleasure have to say Thome always Fe. Always the program was produced by Sam MP and myself tonight. We'll be here at the same time next week to pick through some of the very best here on Monaco twenty four hour. I think we should end the show as we like to do with a song little musical flourish. What if you go well from the archives of the sessions, I mean thirty house let's hear track from the vendor. Ben hot and here he is with never seen such good. Things listening. Of men. Good things go so wrong. Never will we done that playing song. No, no, no, no, no. Ooh. La. Shouldn't loans someone's lie? Would give me. Than mitt to money. Who? But love view restrain JR. Show. Leave your mug in. View restraint. Won't shoot. Leave a mug on me. Full. Loom sweet love the gin. I'm sure. It will be quite this gusting race to the end raise to the. The men real the serum Onis. Written. You'll restraint Bella Scholley view mug in Delaware. May as will be fool riv- love wounds, comb and punish me. Sad lead win lady. Sadly. And. You. In. You. Win. Thank you.

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Helena Suric and Cameron Russell

Vogue Podcast

22:51 min | 4 years ago

Helena Suric and Cameron Russell

"Hello. I'm Helena zorich. And I'm the booking structure here at vogue starting today. I will be sitting down with models of past present and future monthly to discuss the industry their best vogue moments and their passion projects. I'm thrilled to have and activists Cameron Russell here with me in the studio today, high Cameron, thank you so much for joining us and for being our first model guest Yam so excited to start. I'd like to give everyone a little background on your camera because you really quite accomplished you start in campaigns for prestige fashion houses, such as Prada an appeared on countless covers including many international vogues, you also graduated from Columbia University and gave an incredible tedtalk in two thousand twelve of which of these many impressive accomplishments. Are you most proud? That's a hard question. I feel like there's a lot of public accomplishments that people recognize that feel to me more like luck and privilege. So I don't know if there's one of those that I feel particularly fond of the Ted talk. You know, I've practiced a bunch of times the night before and I prepared for a week, but that doesn't feel like a life achievement or modeling. I really felt like feel like I got lucky and even though I do work hard. And I've done it for a long time. I also feel very privileged. I don't know if I feel that's an accomplishment in Colombia. I was really proud of my thesis that I wrote at the end I feel like I learned how to research. So that was exciting. Excellent. What was your Columbia thesis and research on my feces was on public art and political power? Actually, you know, it's related to fashion. I. Always wanted to go into politics. I wanted to be president. When I was a kid. I was a kid, and when I started working in fashion, I really deigned into appreciation for the power of culture to move people. I had underestimated that so when I was at Columbia, and I was studying political science and economics. I saw some holes in how democratic our system is and randomly I stumbled upon a book called graffiti kings, and I read about graffiti artists in the nineteen seventies. And this author Jackson. It said the fastest visual transformation of city ever New York City nineteen seventy and it was carried out by eight sixteen year old black and Latino boys. That's a group that if you study political science where everything is like overly labeled is not elected to office and doesn't necessarily vote the same rates other groups. So I started to think, hey, let's look like outside traditional power to find who's influential and who wields power in other areas, and that really led me to artists into fashion and even today. Influences my theory of change. And and how I think models can be spectacular activists. Very interesting. So while you were growing up and we're hoping to become president than at states. At that juncture, what did fashion mean to you? Did you have an image of the fashion industry? And once you started to work in fashion did your image and reality matchup. I knew very little about fashion, and actually my really cool outfit that I were the first day of high school like did you have an outfit the first high school? I did have an outfit that I wanted the first day of high school. But I think it's tune Barrasso to recount, and I think my concept of fashion that that time involved at the gap at best. So well mine's really embarrassing too. So Mike coolest outfit when I was fourteen. Were these Brown corduroy pants that my mom got at the goodwill that she had sewn elastic into the waste because they were too baggy for me. They were boys. Brown corduroy pants. And she further embarrassing by sewing Sesame Street elastic into the ways like it could not be gear. And then. Green police that I think also maybe had been retrieved from the goodwill, and that was like, oh and skater shoes that I got from PayLess because my mom would not by the brand that I desired so I had a pretty low bar for what was cool, but I felt really confident in that look so that could be understood as a as a positive thing. And then right before a certain modeling. I remember I had been scouted and I was in a bookstore. And there was a vogue with Kate moss on the cover, and I thought Kate moss. Does she do? Let me open up the pages. And then I found out that Kate was a model. So I really knew very little since your conception of fashion growing up involved. A few recycled things or things that your mom golf from the good well lis me to one of your interests. You are very outspoken about sustainability and fashion an industry, which can sometimes be perceived as being wasteful and who's labor practices are often. In question. What do you feel the future holds with respect to sustainability and labor practices? And are excited for these things improve. I think that in fashion, we have an enormous challenge. We're one of the dirtiest industries in the world. And I read recently that one in seven women worldwide is employed in the fashion industry somewhere in the supply chain. And most of those women don't earn a living wage. So we have a lot of things that are contributing to a world that is not sustainable and has a lot of inequality, but the positive of that is that I actually think that makes us potentially really powerful. Because if we change our industry is working we really can can change the world, and that's really exciting. And I'm really coming into my consciousness around some of that stuff. I didn't think about sustainability related to fashion intensely for many years, and I didn't think a lot about labor practices in part because I kind of always saw fashion as this part time thing, even though I guess like hourly I probably was working fulltime. But I was going to school. I was going to college going to high school. And I think I think it gives them interview actually. And I was like, yeah. I've been a model for a decade not gonna model for thirteen fourteen years. And when I said a decade, I realized oh my gosh. I'm part of this industry. I have to be conscious about what I'm doing this industry, and what industry is doing. And I also as an activist started thinking about where are places that I have leveraged, and I can make a difference, and I can take risks that are important, and you know, showing up to Occupy Wall street or taking part in the black lives matter March those are important, but maybe a place where I will the lot of power fashion. And that's where I should be focusing my activism. Let's talk more specifically about your activism. You are particularly passionate about climate change and project with book dot com on climate change. How did you become interested in this topic? And why do you feel this particular issue is so pressing at this time, I don't know if I feel that it's pressing? So much. I mean, I do feel that it's pressing. But I feel that it's pressing because I am observing, and I'm reading that it is pressing, and I have met people that are telling me it's eroding the place where I live. It's responsible for thousands of deaths. It's responsible for famine. Scientists are telling us that we need to reach a tipping point by twenty twenty which is four years from now. So I grew up in a household that was totally activist. But not in name. So I would say the my mom's a feminist. But it's not like we talked about them in ISM. She just made it clear that women and men should be equal always all gender should be equal. So I grew up in a house that was sustainable, and we recycled, and we, you know, took a bike or walked, and we could. And when I was in my teens, my mom talked much more publicly about climate change. She was a co founder of a company called zipcar, which was a capitalist solution to climate change in some ways because it cut down on transportation needs. Cut down the number of cars and cities because of that she really started to talk about climate change publicly, but climate change is really depressing and living with her. I knew even as a sixteen and seventeen year old that the odds are not good. And that the future potentially holds a lot a lot of suffering and I felt powerless face of that. It's just a really hard thing to talk about. And also, I talked about this with my friends like why are we so moved by a whole host of activists causes that feel both immediate end not necessarily in our own lives and unmoved by climate change. And our generation has produced Occupy Wall street and the dreamers and lack lives matter and a whole new wave of feminism. But we haven't seen that on a big scale for climate change. And I start to think about why that is an there's a ton of reasons, and I don't have the answer. But one of the reasons I think is that climate change includes all those things and. And many of the people who have been leading that activists charge have been very privileged white men and scientists, and they are not necessarily connecting with the people in our culture who are activists and change makers. But the hopeful thing is I think that all those issues are the same issue. The fact that we don't value black and Brown lives is so correlated to the fact that we're not paying attention to climate change if it was Australia and not Bangladesh going underwater. You can be sure that we would be paying attention to climate change more than we are. You know, it's correlated to feminism. Most eighty percent. I think of subsistence farmers are women. They are the ones most affected by climate change. If they were men might we be thinking about this differently. I think so so I'm hopeful that actually all these things can come together. And that our generation has been producing the right leaders for this moment. You've used social media as a platform for your activism and to bring awareness to these very important issues social media in modeling, it's typically something that's used to promote an image of glamor and of a certain lifestyle. How do you feel that you're doing this differently? And how do you use your social media platforms to have a more important activist voice beyond just projecting an image of glamour and beauty. I'm watching a lot of my teenage cousins, come of age and social media, and we're in this really complicated moment where on the one hand. And this is true for models in for lots of young women. We suddenly have access to media direct access when I started modeling, you could be trending, and then you could be kicked out, and that's it. But now if you're trending, and you have six million followers ten million, followers, you are really valuable. And so you're kept around your staple people are respecting you. And I. I think that is a really positive thing. And for women for a long time. We have not had and we still don't have great access to media. But was social media? We have immediate access media. And we're building basically our own media outlets, which is really cool. So that's great on the flip side. I'm watching a lot of women in our industry in particular. You know, suddenly we have this opportunity to create our own image. And a lot of us are creating images that I think are playing into sort of some of the negative parts fashion. Which is that we see women fashion sees him in a sexual objects. A lot of the time and women present that image on social media than they get more likes followers, and that is such a complicated thing. And of course, it's so hard to tell when you're doing it out of your own choice. Or when you're doing it because agencies are telling you to do it or indirectly your agents are telling you to do that because they love when you get those followers. So that's a whole complicated. Issue as far as activism goes. I think social media has been fantastic for me personally in terms of education and connecting with people. You wanna see how certain news event is really being interpreted on the ground. Social media's great you can figure out what's happening, and you can connect with people who are like minded. And I think that's one of the first steps of being a really effective activist is not feeling like, I'm alone in the woods. And the only person that seizes problem. It's about finding the hundred other people who really understand it and are passionate about it. Because then you're powerful come returning to modeling for one last question. What other models of past and present excite and inspire you perhaps others that have also been activists. And why okay, there's a long list. I always talk about warez because I read her book a while ago. And I thought she was a great example of model activist. I think in the nineties her book. Touches on a very complicated subject. I think it's called desert flowers or flower. Right. So in the nineties, she gives an interview to marry Claire that unexpectedly I think to her agents, and and to Mary Claire becomes about female genital mutilation, and that really catapults an issue to the forefront. And she becomes a UN ambassador that issue and her access to media is transformative and powerful. And so I love her story because I think it points to the reason models can be such compelling activists, which is at women do not have access to media. We write twenty percent of beds. We make up less than twenty percent of talk show guests on TV. So when we have access when women have access, which is what models have we have the opportunity to tell stories that nobody is telling you, and I think that's really exciting. Okay. Other models Leah Leme limb. Awesome really respect a lot of the women in my cohort of modeling because I see them work so hard like Carly Joan doubts in and the list is so long. But I I think people have an idea of models as divas or you know, lazy or whatever. But most of the women that I know are very hard working and kind one of the things that's interesting about two of the women, you mentioned, Leah's enterprise, Leme, lamb is a social enterprise it employs women to make clothes. I believe Carly's cookies also has a charter donation element to it. So that's a an Christie Christie as well. Kristie? Does a lot for every mother counts and things she's done a lot to galvanize other women to that. 'cause as well as also being a quitting smoking advocate and battling back against a big vice in the business. So when I shot that product campaign, there was a video that accompanied it, and when we shot the video I felt so confident in that moment, and so free and a little kooky and the video came out really well for the product campaign, and I felt like as a model, you know, we don't get that many opportunities to really have. Like sort of creative say in what's happening. But that was a moment where I really felt creatively. Powerful and funny. Nice was the direction given onset to yourself or to be creative. Or they wanted to to look like you were additioning for film. And so they gave us a couple of like one liners, and then they said we could make some up and do whatever we wanted. I actually didn't know what they wanted me to do. I also have been in that studio. I think for four or five days without any light. So I was going like a little crazy. And I just read the lines a couple times in the bathroom before it went out. And then I felt like really confident comfortable with Stephen who I really like working with. And so we had like a great chemistry in that moment. Okay. Tell me what. What are you think? My best Bogo. Well, I think your greatest vote moment was having the allusive single girl's story with Tony Goodman. Mario Testino in which you traveled to the Bahamas. That was a very good vogue moment. As also I love working with Tanya. Mario they're very very team. But it's also it's also quite nice to go on a location that feels a little bit like a holiday and to work with a very fabulous male co star. It was definitely holiday like I think we did some night oceans Ming. How about shooting with the nez every time I shoot with an as I feel. He shoots me in a way that I'm like have I've been shot like that before that another story that you did for April two thousand fifteen this. She was really great because it focused on like, very healthy part of modeling and had all of you models were in the story in your kind of like workout gear in one image. So I think you're swimmer, and I got to make my grandma really proud with that story because my grandma who's ninety is a swimmer and goes to the senior Olympics, and it was like a total dream for her to be my inspiration in the pages of oak, which I think got quoted in this story, actually a daddy. It wasn't the captions were very proud of your. But there's a there's a fabulous image of you and swimwear swim are inspired evening. Look, and that was a really great fun story. Actually, my grandma also wears when we're inspired evening. Looks to the pool. She so some necklaces onto his feet us. So that she can have jewelry in the pool that wouldn't fall off. So yeah, you can. Take that even further really make it your workout fashion inspiration for you growing up like grandma is just a lifetime fashion inspiration. She there's no holds on her fashion. Like if she stains her shirt, she'll just embroider right over the stain. She will take any. She has a whole collection of Gulf house, which really are baseball hats. But she calls him Gulf hats that she has like painted, and the dazzled that she gives the people that visit her she she has an Instagram at Shirley swimmer. Yeah. Check out your grandma. I'm sure she'll really appreciate this. Shoutout. Tons of followers that you'll gain from being referenced by you ten questions. And then you ask me questions, I'm gonna go. I sure okay. What's the best thing about working at book? The best thing about working at vogue is that. I do something different every day. And I work with an incredible number of young women who come from all over the world, and we unique perspective on on fashion. Do you freak out before you get dressed to come here? I absolutely do not freak out before. I get dressed to come to work every morning. I'm an avid runner. My first concern is what am I wearing running this morning? What can I carry to the gym that I can change into? And what can I run around in the hallways in quickly between meetings? You run in the hallways of oak. I do run on the hallways of a very busy running running around is very efficient form of exercise and getting from point h obey. Okay. Most amazing that you've seen in the hallways of oak. Who were it? Oh, wow. That's a really. Really tough all wanna play favorites. I definitely. I feel like I've seen a few people running off to their like after work sports activities. So does vocab like a running team vogue does not have a running team. I would love it. If cut a running team I list every model to join best nam, cheddar, vogue dot com. Ooh, that's a tough one. I would actually say that. So feel Lee who does of photo production vogue dot com. And who very often goes on set with models and hasn't guest star in her? Snapshot has a great Snapchat. Renova ten that was a lot. What's your middle name? I actually don't have a middle name from Cratia. Sorry to disappoint. What's your nickname? That nobody knows healthy hokey. Okay cameron. You're very feminine do people ever mistake. The name Cameron for a man's name. When they see our name on resumes, and so forth. Very feminine. Yes. Indeed. I'd say gosh, I'm having an identity crisis masculine. I did a Facebook group called my name is Cameron Russell. And it was me and five men. Great and one of them. Hey, if you re Rindge letters and Cameron spells romance. I ensure he was trying to direct that hint. The other for men. What has been the most terrifying moment you've ever experienced in the your time bottle? Ooh. Oh that gets so deep. Okay. Well, I did shoot on the glacier once in Celente heels when the rest of the crew was wearing crampons also have definitely experienced like some sexual assaults that probably is like the real answer. But it's a little dark for this podcast. I'm sorry to hear that. That's really unfortunate. What do you think the future holds for model? Angie? Think models will be stars again and supermodels as Linda Cindy Naomi and Christie wants war, man. I don't know what's going to happen with modeling right now. I think there's a lot of interesting things happening tumbler and on Instagram that is in fact, sort of outside what we might consider the fashion industry, at least the one that you and I work in. But sometimes I think about how when we think of the art world, we think of the met, and when we think of fashion, we kind of think of vogue, but of course, there's so many artists that are working before they get to the met or maybe we'll never be curated into that. And I think that is happening at a huge public visible way right now on tumbler. So that's kind of cool interesting. I'll have to check out more of tumbler I've to stick to Instagram and snapshot if you had a daughter, would you let her model or what would your concerns me about modeling will people still be models by the time. I daughter is old enough. I don't know I modeled because it was a great way to make money. You know is way better than babysitting for four dollars an hour. And by incredible luck of been successful. So if I had a daughter, I'd probably have a nice savings account for her college education. So I don't know if she would need to in that way. But if she really wanted to depends on the the daughter, I think that's so true. And I meet young models or some young models. I would counsel out of doing this. And there is some young models who I would encourage you take advantage of this opportunity under the pens to what extent heavy you work of male models. And do you think that male models have a very different experience in fashion than female models? Do as this is the one business where women. Hey, those poor male models. You know, I don't feel so bad for them. Although sometimes it is sad. They're just props. But you know, it's like we can't have reverse reverse, reverse racism is no reverse sexism. Like, we're winning right now, we just gotta own Cameron. Thank you so much for being here and for sharing your thoughts on activism, and what it's like to be a model today. It was a pleasure having you. Thanks for having me. I'm so happy do part of this first episode. Thank you. The vogue podcasts Duchesne of oh magazine recorded here at one World Trade Center and produced by Nagai. We'll have a D And he'll Couric sound engineering. David Lauren's and hosted by me.

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Ep. 57 Self Tan Guru and Founder of Isle of Paradise Jules Von Hep

Breaking Beauty Podcast

37:20 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 57 Self Tan Guru and Founder of Isle of Paradise Jules Von Hep

"The following podcast is a deer media production. I'd go into like you saw it ever. I've just walk in. I don't have. It's my that's my job. I walk into people's houses. And I have to make myself really comfortable very quickly. And I have to make them comfortable with me and actually being spray tunnel isn't just about painting fans as it were. It's everything else that comes with it. And it's almost like being a life coach and confidence booster, and you're almost your clients cheerleader when they're naked and yoga, you are amazing. You've got this. Guys. Welcome to breaking beauty the podcast all of the best selling beauty products and the damn good stories behind them where your hosts Carleen Higgins and Jill done. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to breaking Beatty podcast high. Carleen Hijo, how are you Boeing? There's my forehead hanging against the Mike because I can't take this weather anymore. It's the ice. I'm over. It's getting it's getting to everybody at the everyone is reaching a breaking point seasonal affective disorder. Yes. Just forget everyone down. I need one of those lamps. Well, we've got one better than that. Today. We don't need one of those lamps because I have our own personal Ray of sunshine, and that is none other than jewels fun hep, and he is the founder of islet paradise. And he's joining us on the Mike today. He is a celebrity self Tanner, and he's glowed up everyone from CNN Miller to poppy, della Veen to Blake lively Kate moss. He basically makes celebrities feel their very best and. He is in front of naked celebrities all the time. No pressure. Yeah. And he really sort of started rethinking this category of self tanners that has been pretty low key for the past several years and terms of like everyday use. I just don't have as many friends doing it as I used to. But he's like giving it a shot in the arm really with olive paradise that first of all if you just look at the packaging, it's gorgeous. It looks like something that you want to throw in your circle straw bags and bring it on vacation. But it also has an amazing story behind it. Yeah. And I think what is really sets it apart from all the other self tanners that have been out there. And frankly that are really intimidating to use for most people you're like, I'm going to look streaky. I don't have time for this. I don't want to like all of that stuff. In the reason? It's not a scary is that he is added color correction to his self tanning products and so much like we use color correction and make up to kind of correct different hang. So we might have redness dark under ice. Circles he's taken that idea to sell tan, and so you can choose from light medium and dark, and you get to customize the look that you want and you just glowing and gorgeous, and like it's you but just like a light switch has turned on. So is all about eliminating that orange cast that we all dread. But also for different skin tones, like, you know, self Tanner can look doll it can look green. So these color corrector is really work on everyone yet. And the other thing that's innovative is the formulas. There are drops there are tanning waters, and there are also Mussa's and even there's a a wash off body bronze ING product, but we are bringing you the damn good story behind the bestseller today. You're going to hear all about how I love paradise came to be and what's really exciting. And I think a lot of our listeners are going to get behind is just the whole ethos behind the brand it's all about body, positively. It's all about self love self care. And how. Happiness, and that really comes from Jules himself, and he is a fellow podcast or we didn't get to mention that yet. He has been hosting a podcast with his friends, Sarah Powell for many years jewels and Sarah. And then they recently also started co hosting another genius genius show called wobble. And it really is all about body, positively self love they tackle a lot of really important topics that are not to be made light of like, sobriety and body image. But at the end of the day, you feel really really good after listening to him. I'm you were mentioning an episode with Brian and Gordon. Yes. So that was a the episode that I tuned into recently, and Brian any if you follow her on Instagram, she's sort of going on this journey where she is getting in shape and running and she's just very vocal about mental health issues, and she's recently sober. So it gets raw and it gets real. But it does put a smile on your face at. The end and that's just unavoidable. When you hear jewels in any which way because he just seems to come by that naturally, and I really admire that about Joel SOLAS personality and without question next time he comes into town. We've gotta go out. We're going to have that tipple and paint the town red. He's just kind of person you immediately bring into your fold. And you're like, okay, we're now we're best friends. So we're not gonna take up any more time. Talking about him. We want you to hear directly from Joel. So here he is on his top tanning tips. And a celebrity mishap story that you're not gonna wanna miss. I am gills von hat. I renowned global spray tan autism academy. Believe doesn't even a jump title. I basically spend my life looking at the Jonah's nipples dope by my clydes did. And they leave me feeling incredible. I'm probably better than they did a one night, stop and administra- Tana. I founded the hunting company the isle of paradise, which is essentially my whole career in a bottle. It combines color corrected makeup with south town at and I'm all about natural healthy looking skin. I think tanning has lent. So far into dryness orange tones that do I have to wait ages like my skin too dry. Is it gonna fake isn't gonna? And that was just never what I was bow. And I'm all about looking at yourself. But it's about how you feel when you look in the mirror. Do you feel amazing go out that be a kind passed it? Good. Passan and just be happy tanning is a huge part of your life. Obviously. Now, you have your own business around it. What were you doing before you got into this line of work? So I started my career why studied fashion at university. It was a cost that literally changed my life. I went to an oboe school is really posh on everyone went to do law or medicine, and I just did not fit in. I decided my university calls by flipping a coin it landed on heads and so instead of doing interior design and did fascism studied three as and then how didn't intend ship in fashion PR agency. I liked it. But it didn't. I wasn't about the people fashion is I like to look at it. But to be in a is quite is quite different. I met a faceless Nikola joss, and she said to me, I think you'd be really good at spice hunting. And I was like, oh, I don't know. Like, I'm not sure that's pocket, and I'll come back to it. I flipped Clinton guy to move to a stray Leah what full vogue as a beauty assistant and Australia. Loves beat was about aditorial. And there was just something about being in an office. I'm being a desk that it was quite soul. Destroying at the time. I thought that that is what everyone's career is supposed to be and nobody I had never had career advice of you don't have to work in an office, and you don't have to work, and that I just didn't know that these other careers existed. So came to the U K. So nuclear again. And she said, you know, let me try new intending. So I tried with her timing I trained in like facial massage. And then I did a course in makeup, and I just loved it. I loved the fact the it wasn't abou-. There was no obvious louder. There was no structure, which I'm very good. I have the most creative brain I'm an every single day. I would make people feel good. I'd go into you. So whenever I hear I just woke in. I don't care like, it's my that's my job. I walk ins people's houses. And I have to make myself really comfortable very quickly, and I have to make them comfortable with may. And actually it transpired that being spray. Tana isn't just about painting fans as it were everything else that comes with it. And it's almost like being a life coach and confidence boost and your roommates you clients chilly. When kit and yoga, you amazing. You've got this. And you have to be a sun type of person to do this training assistance at the moment. And I'm trying to teach them in the of giving energy. And it's not just about the spray time is secondary to what we do. So I then my kind of break as it were. I was hunting. I'm just hunting grunt them clients. And there's one client was a makeup test. And she said to me show site. You know, you really good timing. Bailey. Am I know I have no comparison. And she said, look, I'm the had make parts it's on the x factor. Do you wanna do the spray? Totten's? I had been running for six months, and I was like, okay. Five business a window opening for me. And then from that, I got poached onto dancing with the stars in the UK that show was known for bad, orange tons. That's all the headlines written about like everyone who went on it. They will. Oh, I'm going to have a spare time orange, and I just thought I'm going to change this. I'm going to flip this about why is this show known for time. It shouldn't be about that people. Forget that the best time should real-. You should look like you've been on holiday. Not like you've been involved bottle of town. So I really coughed it and change the way that people thought about town on that show, and I did it for three years and by the end of it, and no one was writing about the titans and. My clients. They all call me like the secret Tahmina because I'm not really I'm contradicting myself. I'm not a big mouth when it comes to Korea. But I it's it's not about me. It's about them. So I'm not gonna do outrageous things. I just want them to look their best and go in the right cop field amazing. Glad we skate, and it's not it's about okaying. Mahogany. Well, you truly do look like you just got back from vacation. Yeah. Literally various Sally. And but you just stepped off the plane probably from the UK from the UK underneath his gray. Believe you me. But yeah, I know every tip and trick of the trade to know. I'm all about text glowing skin. I really I've always will make up and I've always played around with products. But I think within the last two to three years I've really been exploring with makeup on myself an different. And I think I have Instagram's thank for that. Because comments on the street, and homophobic things that can be said to Boise who I make up. Don't happen as much as they did anymore. And it's down to boys who got on with a full face, Mike, upon lashes and Glidden ONA, and it's down to them that the way society is changing, I truly believe I wanted to circle back to first of all I wanted to know if you ever went to as I call it the burn been or I've heard you call it the UV coffin that. UV tanning beds. Did you have a past story? Yeah. I like I grew up in the north of England town walls, a big thing that sixteen years old when you don't know what you're doing. And yet you got in the UV coffee in. But I would never do that guy in my life. And I actually was part of the team in the UK that come pains against coin-operated somebody's because it coin-operated coin-operated somebody's. Yeah. It's thing. And like they up on now in Australia as well. So it was it wasn't mom somebody's you could go in put your money in almost like a slot machine and in. Wow. And that was the thing. So nobody's even monitoring. Like, I want darker. I want are also. And also by the Watson. The education that there is now. And so I make sure that the paradise social media platforms. My social media platform as educating people in how to use Thanh, and I have to go into the coffin. My dad had skin comes later on in life, which is just instilled to even further within me to hammer at home. The message of don't lie in the sun. I think once that comes into your in a circle, and it affects you outside of your day to day life, and you see how it changes the dynamic within your family, and he is that was just from him hiking. And now he has a big scar on his face, and it changed everything. And so when she see it, I harmed you really, and you know, my position as a founder of a south hunting Brown's Iowa. I owe it to the world's just say stop doing. This just look after yourself for show, you sort of touched on that idea. When you're talking about dancing with the stars. How the headlines were all about the contestants looking orange and for. A minute. They're fake tan was sort of like passe almost or it's like a bit of fodder for a headline. And so can you talk us through how you did transform it on the whole notion of sunless tanning, and I know you did backstage as well. So turning the world as it were off the whole orange football, his wife Josie Shaw kind of element of town on making it cool doesn't happen overnight. And it's really the Hansel and gretel bread come theory where you drop out bites drop out by tub, so working back stays with designers like Roland Marais on. And Henry Holland. Pucci in Milan and beside was doing for campaigns. And then through such keep you busy. Was busy through taking south ton back stage and being part of a extended makeup team really changed the way that people Soltan, and it became an extra Hilla that was seen as an integral part within the beauty process. So in the past it was having makeup, then nails was dedom-. And now Thanh is a pillow. There aren't many people that do timing in session on is a certain scale because it's you working with product in really different way. And no one educating you while you're doing it. I we have to learn on the job. And you know, sometimes the things that we did. And you think that was not a good look, and I didn't work and you have to you have to back. But it's also making sure that when you're doing tons. It's like, I personally would never post a picture of a client impairment because tub and all really Brown it. I just think it creates this weird image of Thanh. I think actually was better to do is have someone talk about ton after they've had the experience because that's how it makes you feel on. Also, I mean, the world's formulations of come on so far from being that back in the day town where it was that call to finish. And I think every it's all about learning from your mistakes on learning that outing aloe. Vera, and adding hydrating properties into the town that will balance out that orange process and give you a more natural looking town. And so just celebrities bring you onto tour with them or I've seen some things, and I story. No, it is with the podcast we needed. We'll give you a story. But I'm not telling you who is. This was my life. When I was twenty six twenty seven I never used to leave home without a spat on the pounds and a moose on omit in my bag because I never knew how like how quickly and how last minute someone would need a time because celebrities get booked last minute events MP all changed the mind of who they want in the red carpet and all of a sudden someone's going by and then they need the whole process going behind them. So I had a phone call from my publicist, and they said can you be on a flight to Venice within the next hour? Yep. No problem. I've got moose got my man. Okay. So I am always possible. Omega help on a fight gates. Venice gets Venice and a drive picks me up stunning that he's go full cap glasses. I in the back of a huge Rolls, Royce driven to get on a private, gums and taken out to an island. I got the island, and they didn't know who I am that in a YM that it's eleven at night. I have I've only got my bunk caught on may than taking cod's, and I'm starting to just panic, and it's a Friday night everyone. I know in London is out Hamad. I try phoning the sentence. Liberty nothing would come through there. Assistant GM nothing's coming through the celebrity is obviously out getting hammered. So I just have to look at the stars. And I think well what the hell am I going to do so had C shape on a build? It's every I then believe I'm telling you. It'd be like oh happening. Our manager open or just sitting. I bet Chico on I have this sushi. I enjoyed that. I'm the sudden that I see arrives. And they beyond the point of hammered falling off the gondola assistant carrying refusing to have a spray. Tom does not want to spray time. So the Huntsman gretel Brad comes up come out. I have to sit down have a drink just get on with it. We go back to the celebrities hotel room. They was paced book to room for me. They didn't. So it becomes very pound. I'm sleeping on the sofa. I'm on a nine AM flight back the next day to prove to my boyfriend at the time that I can juggle it all which I couldn't the celebrity refused to have a ton until five in the morning. My life is so crazy when I tried like is one of a million story is there's just so many things how many positions you have to get in. When you're getting a fake tent like lifting up, the boobs. I'll never get over that. You know, you got to like lift. So there's no creases. And well, yeah, you know, being a spray Tana is I do look at making buddies for living. But something that I really try, and how Maho is whatever you think you've got someone else has it was tenfold and lifting up your boobs, literally. It's not even the tip of the iceberg. It's not even the Siegel looking down on the type of the iceberg. Like believe me if you to lift those goals up lift them up because I'm not going to do it for you. Tips that we say an I will always like arms and the ad lean back on like, you can usually get in and around without having to lift, you know, it's our job to work around Joe body. It's our job to make you feel comfortable, and it's our job to make you feel fabulous. And if that means Nipah lift, it means the nipple. I think it's a good time to just ask. Like, how your line came to be because you could have kept going with this life of travel, and you know, working with celebrities. I'm sure for a long time. Right. Yeah. I could have done. And I think I'm always really open and honest about this. I never wanted my own line. It was never gold. I had my career. But when I was looking for products, like I'm really, I'm really spiritual like, my beauty problems to be spiritual. I like to feel connected to a brand on the message. They are. I also was looking for formulations that were going to actually do what they say. But also give that little bit more. I just couldn't find it. I couldn't find it. And I looked and I was traveling. I was in Australia locating. I was hail like not here. I was in America looking couldn't find it. And I just thought oh my God. I'm going to have to do this. Literally is my right eye. Oh, this to women man in the world who loved Hano, maybe have never experienced joy of timing. If I don't do this. Nobody will. And it was that moment for me by the penny drops. And I saw we've we're gonna have to hick people for you continue like what was the challenge? I think the reason out of paradise is collaborating, and this will help me I'm so that question is three me listening to my clients. So it was the same messages that were coming through. So I I want a light tan, and I want to glow I'm really stressed at work or I'm juggling three jobs. I've got a lot on. I just need something to take this edge off and hide this almost what it was readiness in the skein. Oh, I want to be docked town, but I don't want to be orange. So then I looked at the products. I was like available to work with and I could do the town's perfectly that there was no streaks. It was flawless. But the final finish was flat and dull and. Not fading nicely drying and also like sticky during the development time. So it was through listening to clients and seeing that I wasn't giving the best service that I could possibly give. I couldn't create that whole starts a finish process because Thomas start to finish his application right through to the moment. You've got it right off the skin because. Yeah. Ton can look great on day one day two. But you need the next six days to be amazing as well because that whole scaly me's scaling necking up like that shouldn't happen. And it's when it's cheap ingredients is when it's high levels of alcohol is all these processes that just shoved in a bottle and put on a shelf that people don't realize you have to have that. You don't have to choose that. You can choose the other route. So I was mixed saying color creative makeup in with my town's. So I would do the town. It would come back to me flat in lacklustre. And then I do body make up over the top. And to get that finish. I was mixing impeach. Corrective to Brighton green to hide that redness, and then the violence counts. Right. The orange tan. So I was already making the products by stage. I was already doing it. And then I met my business partner. He had the factory had the processes, and we just put into together. And I thought this is it we've go launching our own brand is shit. Fucking scary. No that will be able to describe a no one does no one that can warn you of that. And I listened to Totta hop as interview with you guys. And I I love that. She was like it's haw, and I was just hike. Yeah. It's really hard. And I remember the run up to the launch of paradise. And you think I'm putting my whole career on the line. I'm like people either going to get this or that not going to get it. And it's either going to go or it's not if it doesn't go. What am I going to do? I like I'm going to go to fashion am I gonna have this desk job? And you you go through all these crazy scenarios wonderfully people got it. So how did you come up with the name? It's island paradise. Great name. So I I remember the exact moment I was in. I was in a house. I had a rose day. It was like two in the afternoon. And when you try to come up with creative things like I just need to raise. I and I thought okay, let's think about how the moments that utan full. So like I said before I'm not materialistic. I'm not bothered about bags at BAAs, whatever. But for me the moments that I Tom for going for line with my girlfriends shopping with my mom and travel, and I thought that for me is this mental state of mind, I take myself too. So the isle of paradise is not a place. It's a state of mind, and it's not moment when you look in the mirror, and you go that's the either paradise say within the office and out of paradise HP. We say to each of the paradise is a state of mind, do whatever you need to do to take yourself to that happy place because that's what this is all about. We were the first hunting. It makes me sad. Every time. I say this the first time run to use a curve model within our campaign, and as wonderful as is. And it's an incredible career accolades say that I changed the way that the timing cuts agree is in the way that people view that bodies. I think it's actually really fucking sowed. It took may with a ten year career working backstage to actually pull this Ford and say. Say that's not good enough. And the things that we're seeing advertised to as in the Stolz about how we supposed to buy a product on buddy in front of the mirror of buying it from a body that doesn't look like ours or isn't spoken to you from that social media is not okay. That is not cool. And whether it's about skin tone is about shape, it's about gender fluid say these barriers needs change and people need to remember that ton goes on naked skin, your body is your body. What you see in the mirror is it really reflects in how you are on a day-to-day basis. And if you're feeling when you're buying that bottle of time than what hope do you have? So yes, it's amazing that I changed that. But also it was about time that it changed its important. Yeah. I just saw on your Instagram where Jesus sorry. Sorry. There was some kind of DM going on where it was the self tan provider. I think in Australia where they were basically like the client was trying to get the details on how much the self tan application costs, and then the salon or spa wrote back and said what size are you? Because if you're size eight it's this cost, and if your size twelve it's this cost and that did not sit well with you. I. What was where did that come from? And what was the story there? So actually sent to me from one of my followers, and they said have you seen this? And you know, I read it, and I was just mortified I couldn't believe that this conversation had happened. Just makes me so mad because I think that that that one acts from that one stupid person he was trying to charge someone on their body shape and adding on extra dollars because they were of a different shape is just repulsive like it's our jobs to make you feel good. Whatever size shape will ever like whatever you have like. So I literally went on the runs. I went on the round. And I said, it's not okay. You shouldn't feel like this you walk away from the situation, you tell them what stuff it, and you know, that it's like it's your right to do that. And it's a law just picked up awards, and they just wrote about two and saying that this is happening in the industry, and we need to be aware of this. And it's just bunkers. It's absolutely bunk. And it's made me really think about I think for future plans. I would like to do must cusses four spray tonners because. Yeah, I can teach. I teach you how to buff. And I can see how. Spray town. But I wanna teach all the other things that come with it, like high Ebtekar assistance can't believe how I try them. Like, I am a sly bitch like I'll open the door now by you late, and he didn't text main. And it's like I'm like that. But they need to understand that you'll come in this level. And you want to be one of the best Tana's, then you need to be one of the by spray time as you need to own it. Wanna dig into your product line a little bit because we want. Yeah. Let's see the let's see there's a whole assortment theirself tan, moose is there's sprays waters. Like, tell us everything and the bestseller is. So they it comes in three color pillars that we have peach. We have green we have violet peach brightens, the skin and gives you a light ton. Green will hide readiness. Give you a medium tan. I'm violent will hide orange tones and give you a neutralize dot ton. Then within that we break it down into moose format water format and drops. The mousse is your classic south Towner. It has a guide color. You apply. It with omit the water you spray on the easiest way to describe this as a bit like these leaks like spray for your face. Exactly the same application process and feel buddy like an SPF at the beach. You spray on rubber even with your hands. Or if you're like me, and you. Accessory and then washer palms, no guy color. So you see where you're going, but you can see the shimmer of the wetness of the product. And then the drops is a concentrate. So you mix in with a moisturizer? Soften it down your in control, the mo- drops, you aren't the deep of the time. We'll be and we also have unsteadily. So we have a primer co prep it, which lowers the ph of your skin. So you actually get a more natural looking longer-lasting town because when I was doing makeup. I was like I'm priming the skin I'm priming at full body makeup. But why is that this available for town, and, you know, being one of the world's first like celebrity spray tonners, you kinda just have to make your own products. And then a town remove called over it. I named it because it's like an axe over it. I to the Glenn colleague my Salome. So it breaks down and strips office soup is so nice sprayed on a sheet mask as well. So good. What's the number one hit? Let's spin. This runaway agree mortar greenery. Which is really funny when you launch a new a whole new line you actually as we didn't know what was going to be the front runner. You're like, I think it's going to be this. But it's going to be this. But Greenwald say is the hero product for sure. And then it would definitely breaks down into the drops people really loving the drugs because that's so easy that really, customizable. I chop and change between everything because I'm the created, Brian I got bored. So I'm flipping onto moose and then I'm back onto water. But the drops you can add into your foundation, your sarum that great for travel because they're under one hundred male, and that's seats both of face and body all of our products also known commodity in genetics. So none of that little black pause like nothing fills and the fragrance wave peppermint and eucalyptus because I found myself in a stray Leah, and I wanted something powered by Australia and pass to be put into the products. But also, what time should be refreshing? So if you're ever in a Sephora. Have a smell and you'll really see that this is not traditional south counting. There's no coconut vanilla cherry. Fragrance is going on in them. How much does it? Help to mask that self tan smell o a huge. We formulate a low ph which means that when the time develops that south smell is minimized. I I'm just so honest like I will never say it doesn't smell everyone has different Evans, smells, different things. But client feedback feedback from our audience on social media. It really is minimum minimum amount. And what do you think? People love about the green water so much specifically with agreements is the medium town. So it's golden finish from the times developed. I think it's so easy to apply spray on you can fix your make up with it. And the town will go through your makeup when you wash your makeup off at the end of the day. You've got this really nice glow underneath. I'm it's really not looking. That's the thing that comes through a lot with our the paradise is I love how natural. This is. So let's get some tips from you. Let's talk about getting getting it off your fingernails. What do you get asked? Most. Okay. How do I Tom my hands? So when you Tanya, Hans moisturizer, hands, elbows knees and feet with an aloe. Vera based moisturizer, aloe. Vera is the key ingredient to working with south town. The moisturizer on rubber narcos and add onto your nails apply. Your ton all over your body when it comes to the hands. Do not over apply. If you look at your hands, these skim here is like a sponge it will drink tan, and that's when you see debate with all stuck in Nichols on a Friday morning. One light of town. Then take a towel put it on the back of the door. Put some moisturizer on the inner bits of your wrist. I'm rub your risk on the back of the door. Then washer palms now if you want to be super extre, and this is only just discovered within the past three months moisturizer hands again with the handcream. Now, what that does is it lifts everything out of your knuckles. And it just smooth. Moods. Everything and gets rid of any any tons of mishaps. How do I tell my back is the thing that I got all the time. If you aren't lucky to have a neighbor that you can just call on or a boyfriend take there's so many different ways to do this. And I got ASO back applicators, really good. Honestly, I really think you need to buy a backup Kate. So you can do this with household instruments home. I personally have a extra wooden spoon. I've sell tapes admit to it. And I spray my met with the Walter and doing my back over my shoulder. You can also put on a coat hanger. And do it that way. If you're going to do this by hand, then you can turn your mitt back to front. So the foam side sits on the back of the knuckles, and you'll actually be able to reach for the with it. If you think this it doesn't have a guide to how am I going to use it? Practice makes perfect. And I have to reiterate this the first time you did a smokey I or maybe bought some g HD's or maybe cutting one tons all you kinda fucked up a bit and you love from your mistakes. And it's the same with. Town. Learn from mistakes if you mess, we've all got different skin. So I'll skin is all gonna respond to time in different ways. Read your skin read. What is telling you, maybe some parts on going darker than others. Maybe and this is quite common especially like with females when you Jiwan your period, your town, probably won't go as dark as it will for the rest of the month due to the hormone levels within the scam timing without guide killer, apply your Thanh in the day and watch your town develop on the hour every hour because as it develops. You'll start to see the areas that you've missed if you're nervous about streaks. Take a clean mitt a clean, dry met. After you've applied it just rub that met all of your body, and it's going to buff. And blend tanning again is like makeup. It's all about the Buffum blend truth. How long does it take you to do full head to tell self tan on somebody? It was the fastest you've ever done it. I feel like I could go for world record with this. Like, I come Tom someone no problem within ten minutes. Ends the house and leave within ten minutes. Messing about how I have a couple of my clients who have friends, and we call it like, I said, do you want a full treatment don't on a rough from reading. I'm not ready. I'm going to I've got to put the kids to bed. So funny, we interviewed a lot of brand founders. And you're sort of like in the infancy stage of your brand. What's been the hardest lesson that you've learned so far? I think it's really hard in terms of personal life being found is way more difficult than you would imagine. In terms of the time demands, I'm being a global Brown. Found means that your own Coles at seven AM on calls at ten pm. You have to travel and not all of my friends have understood that along the way, and I've lost a few friends and that that's part of life and I've made loads of new ones. But that that's something that doesn't get talked about lot that although from the outside it looks glamorous, and you can make anything look on Instagram, but behind closed Dole's is tough. And what's the best piece of advice you've received from like, maybe another brand founder or one of your friends or fellow podcasters? Gosh, that's so many Charlotte Tilbury said to me just enjoy it just go with a really own it. And just be just be you just stay true to you Marianna Hewitt, and I actually have made really good friends. She founded some days, I'm at Sephora conference in Las Vegas, and neither of us knew what we were doing and we both came from such different backgrounds. And now we help each other out you make such amazing friends on the journey because everyone has kind of come into this Brown found a way one way or another some people are bloggers, some people are they wanted a career change, and they stole the gap. Some people have come from the news world. And then you go experts like me just making the protas by stage. It's an amazing roller coaster and definitely one thing. Stay treats, my gun, stay myself, and it will be okay. Everything works out. Everything gets figured out. Thanks for tuning in. Visit breaking beauty podcast dot com. For details on all the damn good products. We talked about in today's episode and be sure to sign up for our newsletter that way, you'll get every episode delivered right to your inbox. You won't MRs single thing or subscribe to us on apple podcasts. 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Habit | Fitness

The Emma Guns Show

15:08 min | 1 year ago

Habit | Fitness

"And. Hello. Hi there. And welcome to another episode of the Magan show. I am your host. I'm gonna wardner and in keeping with the theme of habits. I'm going to address one that you may have noticed I've skirted around all three twenty six bits, in fact, because it is the muddy topic of fitness now fitness in and of itself is not a muddy topic. But it is for me. And I feel indulge me. I'm going to try to explain why not because I think I have never heard before point of view. But because if I've learned anything from making his poor 'cause it's none of my experiences thoughts and feelings are unique everyday. I'm contacted by listeners who express that they have felt feel think some of the things to has been expressed in the show. So I'm hoping that this house people he may feel the same way. And the reason it's muddy for me. At least is that when I was a kid I develop P C O S quite early. I was only about eleven twelve when the first sign started to show and the comments about my body, which went from the. Into choppy were unhelpful left scars. Forget the bullying that happened at school because that's just going to happen. The comments from all's about how if you just lost weight, you be so pretty or you're lucky too. Nice face doing fringe left. Indelible scars myself estate, I shot boy you anymore. But you get the idea, and what I'm trying to communicate here is that I became disconnected and dissatisfied with this vessel. That's why I'm calling my body that I was in because home sort of happen to you know, a great deal you can do. And coupled with the fact I wasn't diagnosed about six years when I was seventeen a lot of identity damage was done in that time to this day dentist by as fat. And I'm my own worst Petar on that count. If you already feel rubbish about how you look physically all the fits me. Dear out there. Just makes you feel worse. I have never looked like anyone I've ever seen in the pages of a fitness magazine ever. An actually that's something. I thought meant I was fat ugly or inadequate because even when I've had the gym and watched my food intake like a hawk. I've just been a less wide curvy person not Longley in sepia, tone, still shorts chunky side, still busty ages. I thought my body wasn't changing because I wasn't working hard enough. I was in the wrong that I needed to push the work, call to eat, less workout more at one point. I was barely consuming thousand calories a day and doing a minimum of two daily workouts one before work one after sometimes to body pump, then spinning and maybe one at lunch time. And this is where it gets very toxic because when you're in that zone, the compliments come in thick and forest and people tell you how great you, dick. But even then I still wasn't happy with how I looked because I didn't look like fit girls or then pretty. Goals. And when inevitably you can't maintain fourteen workouts a week, and you really fancy Sunday rose double the trimmings, then if you're like me just talk it up to a cheat day, you beat yourself up for not being consistent in fall of the wagon member I said earlier about being Moammar sabota- that anyway, that's just me. It's indulgent, but it's a little background into why feel very cautious about pushing out any content that could make anyone else feel inadequate or less, man. I've been there it stings in the last thing I want to do is create a show that would make somebody feel crap. So was also listening to it. But why dress fitness now in the main because I've had a lot of questions about it. I carefully postal my insta- stories when I'm in the gym usually a smoke picture of me, looking red as tomato covered in sweat post workout, and I've had many questions asking me not only what I do. But how I motivate myself. My response is usually vague find what works for you. And do it if you times a week because I am no expert and also what works for me might not work for you. But I don't particularly like. Being vague, or what feels dismissive to people who are taking the time to direct message me. So I wanted to dig into it. At Italy, always Li it depends on what you're trying to achieve. But I'll say finding something you enjoy is vital to there's no points in your exercise is a chore or punishment having overindulged, I'm very much sailor. Exerciser? That's what makes me happy. But if group things if you classes, whatever it might be go for it. So I decided regularly whether that's going to the gym road running or even doing circuits in my living room with various bits of exercise equipment, I've accumulated if you listen to twenty six hundred unit without about when I wake up in the morning. My first thought usually is I should walk out today. And if I can't feel about panicked about not exercising. I have hardwired into my brain exercise should be done early and every day probably because I grew up in a house where my father has always got up an out of bed as soon as he wakes to exercise back in the day. It was running hours at a time today, it's golf and walks in the countryside. But it's negotiable for him. He has. To get up and get out I exercise regularly. But I haven't always been fit right now and fitted than I've been in quite a while. And yet my approach is probably the most relaxed it has ever been back in two thousand twelve I was running a lot probably averaging around six k every morning before work, and I was running so much that I actually did a half marathon for no other reason than because I could I did raise money for charity when I'm might be fitted now, but I'm still not all that happy with how I look I'd love to drop address is. But wouldn't we all and I'd love to my stomach and indeed junk, my thighs, but I'm realistic. And I know that having a dinky little petite body isn't physically possible. And I'm getting to a point where I'm okay with that. I think so answer to all the questions I've had on damn I'm going to explain how I motivate myself and some of the exercises idea, and why do it so motivation to begin with this is actually pretty easy without exercise? I feel awful sweating makes me feel good. I've experienced one is high. It's real I channel the what? Iran or lift weights. And that keeps me going back to the Jim chime in time again at the moment I fallen back in love with squats and lunges. I'm getting a kick out of having domes that's delayed onset muscle soreness on a semi regular basis. Something about running makes me feel good. I know there are other activities. Burn more calories. But if I have a good run, it makes me feel as though I'm doing something. Right. And it makes me feel I can conquer the world. However, that's not to say about out of bed every morning and straight into my running kit sometimes thought of strapping myself into not one, but t sports bras is enough to make me snooze the alarm, the big busted listeners will not what I'm talking about. Those are the days when I in case myself and just one layer of support do something low or no impact like cycling spinning as long as I can take that books. If you times a week. I am happy. Secondly, goals goals aims and objectives are really important in pretty much everything if you think about it if you don't know where you're going. How do you know how to get there? I haven't apple watch through in SuAn insurance provider in the u k three vitality. This isn't sponsored by the way. I'm just telling you what goes on in my life as part of that healthcare policy, you you can points and those points lead benefits such as free coffee cinema tickets. If you add enough points every month, you can pay off the cost of the watch. I'll put a link in the show news Winston in the full details. Again, it's not sponsored. But it's just to make the point that by having points, go from activity every week I have something to work towards and it's the way of being accountable to being active. But what is also helped me do is understand the value of different types of exercise? If I'm not feeding like I want to pound the pavement or hit the treadmill, then I plan along walk that will ban. The covenant calories calories or keep my heart rate in the fat-burning zone. Thirty minutes. All there's more than one way to end your points, walk around whatever it is. They'll get you. The peop. Wait, what is use things? Like, go awaits as an incentive, and then he your path towards it. And crucially, you kind of have an idea as soon as you start of how long it should take to get there. If you're struggling to fill motivated set yourself a goal, and please stocks mall. I love to channel the work as much as the next person. But that's a short flight to failure to once a week to begin with. That's how I started. Excellent Do that for a few weeks then up to three when it feels? Right. And you know, when it feels right? Thirdly running running is really good measure where my head's as well as my fitness. I mentioned earlier how I run a half marathon and run all the time. I have over the years had a lot of trainers. Tommy that running is not the best way to exercise that I'd be better off squatting or spending more time in the weights room, weights and intels and training on much more efficient. There's no doubt about it is to science, but this comes back to what I said earlier about finding something you love and doing regularly. I really enjoy running and as long as I do in conjunction with the weight work. I feel I'm good now said I will. So I said it was really good measure of when my headset. Yeah. Well on the spiral down to depression, anxiety, I stopped being able to run I try, but I felt heavy and less on. My couldn't must move in a minute before I'd have to stop for a rest and by rest. I mean, really really catch my breath in the end are just completely the anywhere can describe it. Now in hindsight is that it was like trying to one with a metric ton of emotional baggage on my. Back something else was going on. And my physical self couldn't couldn't carry in getting back up to fitness has been slow, and I might need just back up to running five. Keagan it started with walking? And it was a shock when even a forty five minute. Stroll was tough about should have been a walk in the park. Literally. It has taken nearly two years to build a Cup feeding a runner again. A lot of that was emotional mental hurdles Roth in the physical ones. But I'm here now are using up cooled five K Rana. This isn't sponsored but I'll put the link in the show notes, and it takes you from zero to being able to one five K by holding you by the hand you start with short sessions where you walk more than you on until you conflict there and run more than you can walk. And then it goes, you're just running the same people have apps for like, situps, pushups, etc. And they all work on the same principle building you up slowly and study, I really highly recommend them. Four is being consistent. I have an unwritten deal with myself that I'll work out five times a week. So law on a week when I'm motivated sleeping, well and not traveling those five workouts might be ones if I'm stretched pretty thin. You can bet that I'll get one run in most and the rest will be made up of my own sex in the living room, yoga, or cycling cycling my favorite. I keep my heart rate in the fat burning zone. For a minimum of thirty minutes to one hundred thirty BPM for me. And I watch TV show. Are we to book while I do it? It might sound like a cheap. But it still a couple of hundred calories burned gets the blood pumping. Also, there's a lot to be said for how you feel after a few rounds of a second that needs. No gym equipment whatsoever. If you do around pushups lunges squats Hainanese mounting climate star jumps and burpee is a few times. Tell me that isn't a workout no kit. No, nothing tightly free and space wise, you barely need more than enough space in front of you to lunge enough space to the site of you to lunch and enough space behind you and you'll get I gave myself day off the gym on. Monday at nine pm just felt like I had a load of energy I needed to burn off. So I did four rounds of a second Nick from vogue Williams, Instagram account. And it felt great. I felt great five don't believe the hype. This covers people saying you can drop address is in two weeks. When those things you see staring out to e for magazine front covers about substantial amount of weight loss in a very short period of time. Yes, you probably can. But it'll take off that time to undo it. A lot of these quick fixes on sustainable and end up taking the window of your sales and making feeling about your making you feel rubbish about yourself, which you absolutely shouldn't. Also Jim kit doesn't make you fit cycle. The designer Jim gear that costs an absolute fortune and get yourself some basics initial team GB team USA or insert International Olympic team here. You do not need a coordinator designer work are Audrey if it makes you feel good great. But a two twenty pound pair of leggings as the same job as one hundred fifty pound pair of leggings if the lex in the doing the graft, and then my. Final point. Is you do not final actually 'cause I wrote another one. Do you boo? The purpose of Gray's in the show was to hopefully, communicate that fitness doesn't need to be extreme that isn't an accessible, and that you shouldn't measure yourself against others. I used to exercise because my goal was to change myself. Because I didn't think I was adequate or attractive. I wanted to be better. And I thought the betta me accepted existed. But that she weighed less Morris mortar dress size. It's ridiculous. When you say out loud, right, and now, my exercise, physical strength, mental strength and for my health. Now, this really is my final point what what you've got. It was genuinely a huge surprised me when I first lost way after all the weight gain from and s and everything in my mid twenties. It was genuinely shocking to me when I lost way. And I didn't have Kate moss. His body genuinely caught expressed eighteen months of working every day. And where am I Kate moss? Thanks, wherever my Jessica Alba ads who's in charge here. I want to speak to the management. I'm learning to appreciate what I've got on. Although I would very much like to have a breast reduction at some point. I'm trying to see the things I'm trying to see the things I can't change my load-bearing legs as good thing. I realize I've walked into body territory here. And there are things I love about this movement. And there are things that I'm not so comfortable with. But ultimately, you do do what makes you feel good? What makes your head feel clear in your body fail energized? And I will leave you with this. When it comes to the habit of fitness. I used to out with. Personal trainer Gokul Mark and used to say to me when I was working out usually at that point when I was very keen to quit. But he wouldn't let me he was not easy on me. Cayenne is a Japanese time which means improvement advancements changing for the better or progress. It's a philosophy or set of practices that focuses on constantly improving processes, it became that thing that I'd shout or on my last wrap on my pronouncement rep all that extra. I didn't think I was capable of the start of the set when I was telling myself and anyone nearby to be I used to shout it the I was pushing further than I thought I was capable of. So I leave you with Carson and doing it. It'll something every day to improve advance change or progress. Walk around a circuit class, a yoga session, even arrestee. My friends kaizen. If you want to take the conversation about fitness little bit further why not join the clothes face but greet for the Polk cost linked to join in the show notes, and you should be able to find that link wherever it is that you're streaming or downloading this episode. I really want this episode to have been useful, and helpful and having a conversation with other like minded people who've also listen to the show might be of use. Then I definitely think that would be a useful resource or you can also Email me Email me directly at the beauty podcast g mold or you can say slide into my dams on social media where I'm at Amazon's on Twitter, Instagram. Thank you so much for listening. And we'll see you in the next one.

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Self-Tanning & Self-Love With Jules Von Hep (Re-Release)

Breaking Beauty Podcast

38:13 min | 7 months ago

Self-Tanning & Self-Love With Jules Von Hep (Re-Release)

"The fooling podcast is a deer media. Production guys welcome to breaking beauty. The podcast all of the best selling beauty products and the damn good stories behind them. We're your hosts Carleen Higgins and Jill done. Hey everyone happy new year. This is Jill here and today we are releasing an episode featuring one of our favorite Britt guests from last year and that is fellow podcasters Gills von Jewels is the founder of Fo Tan Brand The island paradise. And let me tell you. His energy is the best way ever to kick off a new decade. We are obsessed with him. He is really just such a huge advocate for body positivity and there's so how much to love about jewels and his message so we hope that you enjoy our chat and we'll see you next week with brand new breaking beauty content dropping in your feed and it's all about how to build your perfect skin care routine with Rene Rousso until then here's jewels. I'd go into you so whenever I hear I just walk in I. I don't care like it's my. That's my job. I walk into people's houses and I have to make myself really comfortable very quickly and I have to make them comfortable with me and actually being spray. Tanna isn't just about painting fans as it were. It's everything else that comes with it and it's almost like being a life coach and confidence booster and you're almost your clients cheerleader. You're the when the naked and you are. You are amazing. You've got this hi everybody welcome back to breaking beatty. Podcast High Carleen her GEL. How are you Boeing? There's my forehead warhead a painting against the Mike. Because I can't take this weather anymore. It's Uh is I'm over. It's getting it's getting to everybody. I think everyone is reaching a breaking point seasonal affective disorder. He has just forget everyone down. I need one of those lamps. Well we've got one better than that today. We don't need one of those lamps apps because I have our own personal ray of sunshine and that is none other than jewels. Fun HAP and he is the founder of of Paradise. And he's joining us on the Mike Today. He is a celebrity self tanner and he's glowed up everyone from CNN Miller too poppy de Levin Shoe Blake Lively Kate Moss. He basically makes celebrities feel their very best and he is in front of naked celebrities all the time no pressure yeah and he really sort of started rethinking king this category of self tanners that has been pretty low key for the past several years in terms of like everyday use. I just don't have as many friends doing it as as I used to yet. But he's like giving it a shot in the arm really with olive paradise that first of all if you just look at the packaging it's gorgeous. It looks like something that you WanNa throw in in your circle strabag and bring it on vacation as but it also has an amazing story behind it. Yeah and I think what is really sets it apart from all the other self tanners that have been out there and frankly that are really intimidating to use for most people. You're like I'm going to look streaky. I don't have time for this. I don't WanNa like all of that stuff. And the reason it's not a scary is that he is added color correction to his self tanning products. Unsold much like we use color correction and make up to con of correct different. Hang hang up so we might have readiness dark under eye circles. He's taken that idea to solve Tan. And so you can choose from light medium and dark and you get to customize has the look that you want and you dislike glowing and gorgeous and like it's you but just like a light switch has turned on so is all about eliminating that orange cast that we all dread. Yeah but also for different skin tones like in you know self. Tanner can look doll. You can look green so these color corrector is really work on everyone. Yes and the other thing. Let's innovative is the formulas there are drops There are tanning waters and there are also Moose's and even there's a a wash shaw body Ranasinghe product by we are bringing you the damn good story behind the bestseller today. You're going to hear all about how I love. Paradise came to be. And what's really really exciting. And I think a lot of our listeners are going to get behind is just the whole ethos behind the brand. It's all about body positively. It's all about self love of self care and happiness and that really comes from Jules himself and he is a fellow podcasters. We didn't get to mention that yet. He I has been hosting a podcast with his friends. Sarah Powell for many years jewels and Sarah and then they recently also started co hosting another genius genius show show called wobble and it really is all about body positivie self love. They tackle a lot of really important topics that are not to be made light of like sobriety and body image but at the end of the day you feel really really good after listening to him. I'm you were mentioning an episode with Brian and Gordon. Yes so that was a at the episode that I tuned into recently and Brian Easy if you follow her on instagram. She's sort of going on this journey. where her she is getting in shape and running and she's just very vocal about mental health issues and she's recently sober so it gets raw and it gets real but it does put a smile on your face at the end and thus just unavoidable when you hear jewels in any which way because he just seems to come by that at natural and I really admire that about Joel Solas personality and without question next time comes into town. We've gotta go out. We're going to have that tipple and paint the town Radley's just that kind of person you immediately bring into your fold and you're like okay. We're now we're best friends so we're not gonNA take up any more time talking about him. We want you to hear directly from Joel. So so here. He is on his top tanning tips and a celebrity mishap story. That you're not gonna WanNa Miss I am Gills on Hap- I I'm renowned global spray town artist county. Believe doesn't even a jump title I basically spend my life looking at the China's Nipples I'm dope by my clients. And they leave me feeling incredible and probably better than they did a nice job. I founded the Hunting Company the eye of paradise which is essentially my whole career in a bottle. I'm it combines. Collaborative makeup with South Town at and I'm I'm all about natural healthy looking skin. I think Tanning House lend so far into dryness orange tones that do I have to wait ages to my skin too dry. Is it GONNA look fake. Is it GONNA lie. I'm that was just never will. I was a bow and all about looking like yourself. But it's about how you feel when you look in the mirror. Defeat Amazing guy out that it'd be a kind past make good pass said and just be happy. Tanning is a huge part of your life. Obviously now you have of your own business around it. What were you doing before you got into this line of work so I started my career. Why studied fashion at university? It was accost that literally changed my life oboe. Scores like really posh on everyone went to do law or medicine and I just did not fit in. I decided my the university calls by flipping a coin it landed on heads and so instead of doing interior design and fashion studied for three years and had an intense shape in fashion PR agency. I'd say I liked it but I didn't. I wasn't about the people fashion is I like to look at it but to be in a is quite quite different I met a faceless Nikola colledge office and she said to me. I think it'd be really good at spray tanning and I was like no. I don't know like I'm not sure let's park now. Come back to it. I flipped cleaning. Gada move to Australia. I worked for vogue as a beauty assistant in Australia. Loves beauty was no about aditorial and there was just something about being in an face. I'm being a desk that it was quite soul destroying at the time. I thought that is what everyone's career is supposed to be. And nobody. I had never had career advice of. You don't have to work in an office and you have to wear a suit to work. And I just didn't know that these other careers existed so came back to the UK. So Nick Lurgan and she said you know. Let me try new timing so I tried to tanning I trained in like facial massage and then I did a course in makeup and I just loved it. I loved the fact that it wasn't a bow. There was no obvious louder. There was no structure. Which I'm I'm very good? I have the most creative brain. I'm an every single day I would make people feel good. I'd go into you saw here. I just walk in. I don't care it's my. That's my job. I walk in people's houses and I have to make myself really comfortable very quickly and I have to make them comfortable with may actually it transpired that being a spray tunnel isn't just about painting fans as it were. It's everything else that comes with it. And it's almost like being a life coach and confidence boost And and you're almost your kinds cheerleader. Your when they're naked and you're you are amazing you this and you have to be a certain type of person to say. Oh you know. I'm training assistance at the moment. And I'm trying to teach them in the art of giving and Ajay and it's not just about the spray time that is secondary to what we do. They say I then Mike kind of break as it were. I was tanning. I'm just hunting grantham clients in this one Client was a makeup artist and she said to me she was like you know you really good at Tommy Bailey. Am I know I have no comparison and she said look look. I'm the head make parts. It's on the x factor. Do you want to do the spray tons. I had been touting for six months and I was like okay. This is a window opening to me and then and from that I got poached onto dancing with the stars in the UK. That show was known for bad orangutan's that's all the headlines written about. It's like everyone everyone who went on it. They were like. Oh I'm going to have spare time orange and I just thought I'm going to change this. I'm GONNA flip this about. Why is this show known for time? It shouldn't be about about that. People forget that the best time should look real. You should look like you've been on holiday not like you've been involved bottle of time. So I really carved entertains changed the way that people thought about town on that show and I did it for three years and by the end of it no one was writing about the timeless and my clients. They all call me like the Secret Tana because I I'm not really contradicts myself. I'm not a big mouth when it comes to Korea but I it's it's not about me. It's about them so I'm not gonna it do outrageous things. I just want them to look their best and gone the red carpet and feel amazing with glory. Skin it's not it's not about looking Mahogany. Will you truly do look like you just got back from vacation. Yeah literally various sally but you just stepped off a plane probably from the UK yeah from the UK. This grey believe you make but yeah I know every trick of the trade and all about texture glowing gladness skin. I really I've always wore makeup and I've always played around with products I think within the last two to three years. I've really been exploring exploring with makeup on myself. I'm an different parties and I think I have instagram's thanks for that because comments on the street and homophobic things that can be said to boise voice who make up. It don't happen as much as they did anymore. And it's down to boys you got that and with a full face of makeup on lashes and glidden owner and it's down onto them that the way that the society is changing truly believe. I wanted to circle back to first of all. I wanted to know if you ever went to as I call it the burn. been or I've heard you call it. The Levi coffin that. UV tanning beds. Did you have a past story. Yeah I like I grew up in the north of England and Thanh was a big thing thing that and at sixteen years old. When you don't know what you're doing yet you got in the coffee and I would never do that again in my life and I actually was part of the team in the UK that campaigned against coin-operated? Somebody's because it coin-operated coin-operated some beds. Yeah it's a thing and like they abandoned stray earlier as well so it was. It wasn't man sometimes as you can go in and put your money in almost like a slot machine in. Wow and that was the thing so nobody's even monitor. I want I want darker I want. Our House and also by Bennie wasn't the education that there is now and so I make sure that the Paradise Social Media Platforms and my social media platform is educating people in how to use Tonkin. It's like I don't have to go into the coffee in my dad. Had Skin cancer later on in life which is a just instilled even further with the metoo Hammer at home the message. Aw Diet lie in the Sun I think once that comes into your inner circle and affects you outside of your day to day life and you see the how it changes the dynamic within your family and he is that was just from him hiking and now he has a big scar on his face and it changed changed everything and so when she at times you really and you know my position as a founder of a South Hunting Brown's Iowa I owe it to the world's just say stop doing this. Just look after yourself for show. Now you sort of touched on that idea when you're talking about dancing with the stars how the headlines were all about the contestants looking or orange in for a minute there. Fake Tan was sort of like passe. Almost or it's like a bit of fodder for a headline and so can you talk us through how you did transformative limited on the whole notion of sunless tanning and I know you did backstage as well. So turning the world as it were off the whole all orange football his wife Jersey Shaw kind of element of town and making it. Cool doesn't happen overnight. And it's really the Hansel and Gretel read come they array where you drop out. They bite a drop out by TAB. I'm so working stays with designers like Roland Marais and And Henry Hollins Pucci in Milan and beside was doing but sergey campaigns and then through such hell keep you busy understand but through taking south ton back stage and being part of a extended. Makeup team really really changed the way that people saw Tun and it became an extra hiller there were seen as an integral part within the process so in the past it was Harry makeup than nails was and now John is a pillar. There aren't many people. Do you tanning in session and is a certain scale. Because it's you working with audited really different way and there's no one educating you while you're doing it I we had to learn on the job and you know sometimes things that we did and you think that was not a good look i. It didn't work and you have to. You have to back up but I'm is also making sure that when you're doing towns it's like I personally Husni wouldn't have a post a picture of a client impairment because in a turban old really brown and I just think it creates this weird image of town I think actually was better. Today is have someone talk about Tan after. They've had the experience. Because that's how it makes you feel and also also I mean the world's formulations of come on so far from being that back in the day town where it was that teradata finish and I think every it's all about learning from your mistakes and learning that outing ovarian adding hydrating properties with into Tom that will balance out that orange process. And give you a more natural looking Tan and and so two celebrities bring you on tour with them or I've seen some things story for the podcast. We needed right all right. I'll give you a story but I'm not telling you is and this was my life when I was twenty six twenty seven. I never. I used to leave home without a spare pair of underpants and Moose animate in my bag because I never knew how like how quickly and how minute someone would need a ton because celebrities got booked last minute events. NPR's changed the mind of who they want in the red a cop and all of a sudden someone's going in by and then they need the whole process going behind them. So I had a phone call from publicist and they said. Can you be on a flight to Venice within the next hour. Yep No problem. I've got my mood. I'll go I'll go so I got an always possible help if I get to Venice and donned a driver. Picks up stunning that It's full tap glasses. I got in the back of a huge Rolls Royce driven thebenz get put on a private guns that and taken out to an island. I got to the island and they didn't know who I am that in a way I'm that it's eleven at night I don't have I've got my bank. Cottam may the not taking cards and I'm starting just panic and it's a Friday night. Everyone I know in London is out Hamid. I try phoning. Winning the sentence laboratory. Nothing would come through Got Their assistant nate. Nothing's coming straight. The celebrity is obviously out getting hammered. So I just have to look at the stars and I think well what the hell am I going to see shape and a build. It's every I then cool. Believe I'm telling you uh-huh oh are Algebra. I bet she go on. I have this Sushi. I like enjoy that. On a certain celebrity arrives and they are beyond the point of hammered falling off the Gondola Assistant carrying them refusing to have a spray. Tom Does Not want to spray Tom. So hansel and Gretel bread comes up come out. I have to sit down. Have a drink it just got on with it. We go back to the celebrities hotel room. And they was pasted. Terim me. They didn't so it becomes very pound. I'm sleeping on the SOFA. I'm on a nine. AM flight back. The next day to prove to my boyfriend the time that I can juggle it all which I couldn't. The celebrity refused is to have a ton until five in the morning. My life is so crazy and when I tried like is one of a million stories. There's just just so many things Y- how many positions you have to get when you're getting. Fa Town like lifting up the BOOBS. I'll never get over that. You know you got to like lift so there's no creases and well. Yeah is I do look at making bodies for living but something that I really tried to hammer home is whatever you think you've guard someone else. Has It worse tenfold and lifting your boobs literally. It's not even the tip of the iceberg. It's not even a Siegel looking down. John Tip of the iceberg. Like believe me if you lift those girls up. Lift them up. Because I'm not going to do it for you. Hips that we say and I will always like arms and and the Ad Limbaugh and you can usually get in and around without having to let you know. It's our job to work around job all day. It's our job to make you feel comfortable. And it's our jobs may feel populace and if that means Nipah left I think it's a good time to just ask like how your line came to be because you could have kept going with this life of travel and you know working with celebrities. I'm sure for a long time right. Yeah I could have done and I think I'm I'm always really open and honest about this. I never wanted my own line. It was never a gold. I had in my career but when when I was looking for products like I'm really I'm really spiritual like my beauty browns to be spiritual. I like to feel connected to a brand on the message. They eight per hour. I also was looking for formulations that we're going to actually do what they say but also give that little bit more. I just couldn't couldn't find it. I couldn't find it and I looked and I was traveling I was in Australia. Looking was hail like not here in America looking couldn't find it and I just thought Oh my we're going to have to do this. This literally is my right eye. Oh this to women and man in the world who loved Hanno maybe have never experienced the joy of tanning. If I don't do this nobody will. And it was that moment for me by the Penny drops and we've we're GONNA have to hit for you. Continue like what was the challenge. I I think the reason I'll paradise is collecting and this will help me answer. That question is th- remain listening to my client. Say it was the same messages that were coming through so I I. I want a light Tan. I want to glow. I'm really stressed at work all. I'm juggling three jobs. I've got a lot on. I just need something to take this edge often. Hides this almost well. It was readiness in this game. All I WANNA BE DOT COM. But I don't want to be orange so then I looked at the product audits. I was like available to work with and I could do. The town's perfectly there was no streaks. It was flawless but the final finish was slapped and dull dull and not fading nicely drying and also like sticky during the development time so it was three listening to clients and seeing that I wasn't giving the best service that I could possibly gave. I couldn't create that whole start to finish process because a Thomas start to finish his application right through to the moment. You've got it right off the skin because yeah. Tom Can look gray on day. One or day two but you need the next six days to be amazing as well because that whole scaling scaling up yet like that shouldn't happen and it's when it's cheap ingredients as its high levels of alcohol is all these processes that I just shoved in a bottle and put on a shelf that people don't realize you have to have a have to choose that you can choose the other Reu so I was mixing collaborative makeup in with my tons so I would do the time it would come back to me flat in lacklustre and then I do body make up over the top and to get that finish I. I was mixing impeach collaborative to Brighton Green to hide that readiness and then the violence counts ride the Orange Dark Tan so I was already making the products by stage. I was order doing it and then I met my business partner he had the factory had the processes and we just put into together and I thought this is it. We've got okay. Launching a Ryan brand is Shit fucking scary. There are no words that will be able to describe a no one. There's no one can warn you of that and I listened to Totta hop has to be with you guys I. I love that. She was like it's hard and I was just. Yeah it's really hard and I remember the run up to the launch of our paradise. Anything I'm putting my whole career on the line. I'm like people either GonNa get this or they're not gonna get it and it's either GonNa go and a or it's not if it doesn't go. What am I going to do I I like? Am I going to go back to NYC. I'm I going to have this desk job. And you throw these crazy scenarios wonderfully Fli people get a so. How did you come up with the name? It's I'll of paradise great name so I I remember the exact moment I was in. I was in her house. How Arabia Day? It was like two in the afternoon. When you're trying to come up with creative things like I just need raise? I and I thought okay. Let's think about the moments that Utan for said like I said before I'm not materialistic. I'm not bothered about bags at bars. Whatever but to me the moments that I tom for are going for wine with my girlfriends shopping with my mom and travel? I thought that to me. Is this mental state of mind that I take myself too you so the paradise is not a play is. It's a state of mind and it's not moment when you look in the mirror and go. That's the either paradise so within the office and our paradise. HQ We say to each their paradises. A state of mind. Do whatever you need to do to take to that happy place. Because that's what this is all about. It was the first hunting brandon. I it makes me every time I say this the first time ever use a curve model within our campaign and as wonderful as that is it's an incredible career accolades say that changed the way that the timing category is in the way that people view their bodies. I think it's actually really fucking side. It took may with a ten career working backstage to actually pull this Ford and say that's not good enough and the things that we're seeing advertised to as in the stores about about how we are supposed to buy a product on our naked body in front of the mirror of buying it from a body that doesn't look like ours or isn't spoken to you from that. Social media is not okay that is not cool and whether it's about skin tone is about shape it's about gender fluidity. These barriers needs this change and people need to remember that Tan goes on naked skin. Your body is your body. What you see in the mirror is it really reflects in how you are on a day to day basis says and if you're feeling crowd when you're buying that bottle of Tan them what hope do you have so jazz? It's amazing the change that but also it was about time that it changed aged. It's important yeah. I just saw on your instagram where there was some kind of DM going on where it. It was a Self Tan provider. I think in Australia where they were. Basically like the client was trying to get the details on how much the self tanner application costs and then the salon salon or spa wrote back and said what size are ill because if you're a size eight it's this cost and if your size twelve it's this cost and that did not sit well with you I turn. Ram what was where did that come from. And what was the story there so actually sends me from one of my followers and they started. Have you seen this and you know I read it and I was just mortified. I couldn't believe this conversation had happened. And it just makes me so mad because I think that that that one acts from that one stupid person he was trying to charge someone on their body shape and adding on on extra dollars because they were of a different shape is just repulsive. It's our job is to make you feel good. Whatever size shape will ever effort like whatever you have like? So I literally went on the rounds I went on the round and I said it's not okay. You shouldn't feel like this. You walk away from the situation. You tell them what that stuff And you know that it's it's your right to do that and it's a law just picked up award. I'm just wrote about and and saying that this is happening in the industry. We need to be aware of this. And it's just it's absolutely bonkers and it's made me really think about I think for future plans I would like to do masterclasses for spray tonners because yeah I can. I can teach you how to buff and I teach you how to Spray Tan. But I want to teach all the other things. The come with a high in Attica. My assistance can't believe how I train them like. I am a sly bitch like I'll open the door and I by July and he didn't tech's Maine and that it's like that but they need to understand that you're coming in at this level and you WanNa be one of the best returners then you need to be one of the by spray tonners you. I don't want to dig into your product line a little bit because yeah let's let's see there's a whole assortment their self Tan nooses. There's sprays waters like tell us everything and what the bestseller is so they. It comes in three Cappella pillows that we have peach. We have green. We have violent peach brightens the skin and gives you a light Tan. Green will hide readiness to give your medium Tan. I'm violent will hide orangutan's and give you a neutralize dot com then within that we break it down into Moose Full Matt Walter Format and and drops the Mousse is your classic South Tanner. It has a guide color. You apply with the mets. The water you spray on the easiest way to describe this is a bit like these relics like spray for your face exactly the same application process and for your body like an SPF at the beach. You spray on rubber even with your hands or if you're like me and eleven accessory and then washer palms no guy color. See Causey where you're going but you can see the Shimmer of the wetness of the product and then the drops is a concentrates traits. So you mix that in with a moisturizer. Soften it down your income child more drops. You aren't the deep of the time will be. I'm we also have ancillary so we have a primary co prep which lowers the Ph of your skin so you actually. I more natural looking long lasting town because when I was doing makeup I was second second priming the skin. I'm priming full body makeup but why is that not this available for town and you know be one of the world's first like Celebrity T. Spray Tana's you kind of just have to make your own products and then a town remove called over it. I named there. Because it's like an axe to the glide calling. I like my stomach. So it breaks down and strips off his soup as so nice sprayed on a sheet mask as well. So what's the number one hit. Let's spin this runaway Green Mortaza gray multi which is really funny when you launch a new a whole new line you actually as. We didn't know what was going to be the front runner. I think it's going to be there but it's going to be this. I say is the hero product for Shaw and then it would definitely breaks down into the drops people really loving the drugs. Because they're so easy that really customizable. I Chop and change between everything. Because I'm the Creator Brain. I got bored. So I'm flipping onto Moose and then uh-huh water but the drops you can add into your foundation your serum that great for travel because they're under one hundred male and their seats both face and body all of our products it's also noncombatant. Genetic genetic say none of that little black pause like nothing fills the and the fragrance wave peppermint and eucalyptus. Because I found myself in Australia and I wanted something a power of my Australian possibly put into the products but also say what should be refreshing. So if you're ever arena Sephora have smell and you'll really see that. This is not traditional south tanning. There's no coconut vanilla. Cherry fragrance is going on now. How much does it help to mass that self tan smell o a huge low ph which means that when the time develops that? Southbound smell is minimized I I. I'm just so honest like I will never say it doesn't smell yes. Everyone has different. Evan smells different. Things but client client feedback feedback from our audience on social media. It really is minimum minimum amount. What do you think people love about the green water so much specifically typically with agreements is the medium town so golden finish? The town's develops I think it's so easy to apply spray on. You can fix your make up there and the town will go three three or makeup. When you wash your makeup off at the end of the day you've got this really nice glow underneath? Yeah I'm it's really natural looking. That's the thing that comes through a lot with our paradise. I love of how natural this is. So let's get some tips from meal. Let's talk about getting getting it off your fingernails would get asked most okay. HOW HOW DO I? Tom My hands. So when you Tanya Hans moisturizer hands elbows knees and feet with an Aloe Vera based MOISTURIZER. Aloe Rivera is the key ingredients to working with South Tan. PA The moisturizer on rubber narcos onto your nails. Apply your ton all every Dan when it comes to the hands. Do not over apply if you look at your hands. The game here is like a sponge it will drink tan. And that's when you see Debbie with all stuck in knuckles on a Friday morning and one light kind of town then take a towel on the back of the door. Aw Put some moisturizer on the base of your wrist and Rub your wrist on the back of the door then washer palms now. If you want to be super extra and this is I've only just discovered within the past three months moisturizer hands again with the handcream. Now what that does is it lifts everything out of your knuckles. Just smooths everything I've Gets rid have any any tons of mishaps. How do I tell my back is the thing that I got all the time? If you are lucky to have a neighbor that you can just call on or your boyfriend. Hey there's so many different ways to do this and I go back applicators really good honestly. I don't think you need to buy a backup. Okay so you can do with household instruments home. I personally have a extra long wooden spoon. I've solitaire admit to it and I spray met with the water and do my back over my shoulder. You can also put on a coat hanger and do it that way. Hey I'm if you're going to do this by hand then you can turn your Mitt back to front say. The foam side sits on the back of the knuckles. And you'll actually be able to reach further there. Wow if you think. This part doesn't have a guide color. How am I going to use that? Practice makes perfect and I have to reiterate this at the first time you did this make I or maybe bought some. HD's or maybe about cutting one tons. I kind of alphabet and you learn from your mistakes and it's the same with Tan. Learn from mistakes if you MESSA. We've all got different skin. So asking his organ respond to time in different ways. Read your skin read. What is telling you maybe some parts ongoing going darker than others? Maybe and this is quite common especially like with females. When you Jiwan your period your ton probably won't go as dark as it well for the rest of the month due to the home levels within the scam tanning without guide color? Apply Thanh in the day and watch your town develop on the hour every hour because as it develops ebbs you'll start to see the areas that you've missed if you're nervous about streaks take a clean Mitt clean dry may after you've applied it just rub. That met all of your body and it's going to buff I'm blender timing again is I make up. It's all about the buffum blend. Yeah true how long does it take you to do full head to Toe Self Tan on somebody. It was the fastest. You've never done it. I feel like I could go for world record with this like I can Tom Someone no problem with intimidates like ends the House and leave within ten minutes in. Its message about how I have a couple of my clients with friends that we call it like I said. Do you want a full treatment or do you WanNa ride from day rough and ready to go the kids to bed. This is so funny. We interview a lot of brand founders. And you're sort of like in the infancy stage of your brand. What's been the hardest lesson that you've learned so far? I think it's really hard in terms of personal life being found Is Way way more difficult than you would ever imagine in terms of the time demands. I'm bean a global brown found Means that your calls at seven. Am Your calls at ten PM. You have to travel mini and not all. My friends have understood that along the way and I've lost a few friends and that that's part of life and I've made loads of new ones but that that's something that doesn't get talked about a lot that although from the outside it looks so glamorous and you can make anything that Garmin sunny instagram but behind closed doors is tough. And what's the best piece of advice you've received from like maybe another brand founder or one of your friends or fellow podcast Gaza so many Charlotte Tilbury as said to me. Just enjoy it. Just I with a really own it and just be just be you just stay treat. UTA Marianna Hewitt. And I actually have made really good. Fancy Ian's founded some Fridays. I met her at Sephora at conference in Las Vegas neither of us knew what we were doing and we both came from such different backgrounds. And now we help each other out. You make such amazing friends on the journey because everyone one has kind of come into this brown found away one way or another. Some people are Bogota's some people are they wanted a career change and they saw the gap. Some people have have come from the news world and then you go expose me just making the PROTAS backstage. It's an amazing roller coaster and definitely one thing. I've learned to stay troops my gun stay myself and it'll be okay. 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29:05 min | 1 year ago

A Different Way of Looking at the Scale

"You're listening to the podcast made possible by our friends at blue diamond. We're big snacker is around the goop office. You know, the drill three o'clock rolls around. And you find yourself reaching for whatever is lying around and striking distance last resort snacking, as it turns out, usually isn't all that satisfying. Which is why we decided to give our snack jurors makeover and stock them at blue diamond whole, natural almonds. I go for handles before meetings often multiple handfuls, if I'm honest because they're that good between the fats, and minerals and blue diamonds non-parole supreme almonds. They're significantly healthier than popping candy or chips throughout the day. And they actually tide me over until dinnertime head over to group dot com for some recipes made with blue diamond whole, natural almonds. Hey, again, it's the least Lunen goups chief content officer every week on the podcast Gwyneth ri-, sit down with leading thinkers, top doctors. Researchers and visionaries we talk about breaking down barriers, and we learn a lot if you tune in regularly. Thank you, and you'll know that we normally drop on Thursdays. But now we have three special back toback Tuesday episodes the first aired last week all three are talks from our recent in coop. Health summit in Vancouver city that I fell even more in love with if you haven't been to inculcate is designed to be a transformative experience based on the premise that slight shifts and small changes can add up on today's episode. I'm talking with a personal hero of mine. Gabby Reese, I think in a way what I'm learning and training in marriage parenting. And even an aging, quite frankly is just to be willing to adopt all the time. Time because that's how we navigate these unknowns that are ever changing as much as we don't want them to change. They will be changing Gabby is a world class athlete and the New York Times bestselling author of my foot is too big for the glass slipper, which is an on point book title that I can relate to Gabby is a former professional beach volleyball player and Mikey's, first female spokeswoman just had a few other careers to including modeling, and she's known in part for her thoughtful perspective on strength, beauty and redefining our relationships to our bodies. I can't wait for you to hear from Gabby. So let's jump into it. Monochromatic comment on everyone's out that I'm trying to channel Brennan Maxwell serve obsessed with him right now. 'cause all his pants look long. Let's get to that. But anyway, I can't imagine what it was like for you to find pants with the property. It was like, yeah. It's still I sleep with people to get pants long. I'm just kidding, no seriously people events, and why are you wearing that? I'm like it fits like pretty much. Well, I personally when thank you for being such an incredible is the goal role model. I was a child. I don't think you and thinking about this earlier. I don't know. I'm sure many of us are around the same age, and I feel like you entered of the models of your era where so like beautiful on strong and had bodies. And then I don't know what happened. I remember the child. It was Kate mosses big moment. It was right. When I was five foot seven, I remember, I was exact same height as Kate moss. And I think vogue said oh and she weighs like one hundred two pound. And I was like I'm one hundred and thirty pounds. And it was the first moment when I was like, wow, I'm a big girl. Well, listen. It's always interesting. I'm six foot three, and I weigh one hundred eighty pounds and I used to play volleyball with. Though that were tuner pounds and could jump over thirty inches. And I was like, oh, I just need to get bigger. But then I go to work in New York, and they'd be cutting and cinching, and I'm like, I need to get smaller and put it to Unitel that made it really easy for me when I was eighteen and I was living this dual life and really out of necessity. It's not that I didn't have an interest in fashion. I was paying the bills. I was an independent person. I was in school in scholarship and stuff and so being New York, and I go to work literally like British vogue, Albert Watson. And you'd be with girls so beautiful that you thought who looks like that, you know, like, well, you know, I mean like. And you know, they're eating green apple, and they seem maybe not that stove. And you're just like, okay. And then you fly you go. Tell us a year and a gym sweaty your stinky, wearing really ugly practice clothing. Maybe girls have few blemishes their butts, maybe a little big their robust. They're confident. They're certainly having a lot of fun. And I realized right then and there at eighteen that perfectly beautiful is not the answer to happiness. And so I think that was that was fortunate for me. But what else you start to do being in sports and other is celebrating? What's great about other women their other talents their gifts there, whatever things they have in and and try not to compete with them because that's sort of a waste of time. And do you feel like your your background in sports sort of kept you more because like you still need to perform was that your safety net. Will it was something? I was in charge of it was a skill set. If I practiced harder chances where I would improve going to castings I can't control how people are reacting. And if they're looking for a five foot nine Asian girl for the job, I'm probably not gonna get it. So I think I learned very quickly that the things I could control. That's why I have three daughters myself, and I always say, listen, okay, Pretty's bonus. But if you can have a skill that, you can be in charge of I think that's where the real power lies because not only do people respond off of your energy of having a feeling pretty good that you have a skill. But if it's not the way you want it, it's like being personally accountable, you can change it. And I think that's a really important message always, but even more. So now where we say two girls, it's important to be strong or to be self defined and to hear your voice. But yet if we look for example at their world, if professional athlete maybe has. One hundred thousand followers or four hundred thousand followers and other girls who every shot literally is of a body part. And they have twelve million. How do we compete with that message? Yeah. You know? So it's just I think it's it's getting them. It's it's a trick. I say this as a parent I'm always trying to figure out because I don't understand I'm not growing up without hard wiring. And so it's a dance for sure and how your daughter seem incredibly strong like you. And I know your your daughter is she your sixty eight yoyo, my daughter that just turned fifteen she's about six feet, but she weighs about one hundred and seventy five pounds going back to your third one zero two is she did a video with me when she was thirteen and she probably won't be as tall as I am. But she is a bigger girl like her bones are bigger, and she's the glorious beautiful girl in and she seems to have made peace with that. But if she was sort of saying, oh well. Why should way this much that much? It's like how can we compare? And how do you do you is has she figured that all out on her own or do you have sort of is it bother is? She like as she ever fazed by the fact that as one hundred seventy five pounds, only when you go shopping, I'm telling you messes with you. I've got I think I've done my own crying and interesting rooms with my husband, and he's like are you serious? And I'm like, I am serious. Like, we're at all of Bergdorf, and I can't find literally okay shirt big deal. So I think for her it's it's just like, oh, you have something. And you can't find anything to where. I'm like, I get it. Yeah. But I mean, this is these are a friend who kind of great coming from him. He's seven foot professional basketball player, and he was leaving my house, and he had to go make this announcement that was sort of difficult, and I said, hey, good luck with that. And he goes, you know, small thing to giant. And I think if we can all giants, you know, it doesn't have to be literally we don't have to be seven feet tall. But sometimes if we can. Just be giants on life. Most of is pretty small. Yeah. Now, it's interesting to like, I'm I'm only five ten, but I was still always the tall girl and my husband's maybe two inches taller. But there's also an I when I was pregnant I mean, I like immediately weighed more than he did. And there's so much pressure. There's this like expectation of difference. Right. That the be married to a guys like so much bigger. And you're gonna be dainty. And clearly like are you guys the same height you Laird, no, I'm taller than I need to be. I need every bit. I can get. It's been twenty three years. And I'm just like this guy, you're gonna get tired or what I just keep standing really tall. No, listen. I think it's we're all fighting our own our own brazen in as far as male and female. You know, I think that that is a is a I think we are different. And I think the way our brains were generally for the most part is different. I think there's a lot of sort of some biological differences. But I think when we walk around comparing to what the world is telling us versus what feels really good to us. That's where we always get into trouble. So if you have a partner that you're like, this is my partner, and that feels good and right to both of you. I don't I don't think it really matters. What the outside world says I get it's hard though, is it. I don't know. I feel like to be do. I mean, I feel like you need to be tough. No, you'll like you have to decide decide I think. So I think I think if the decide, and then I say that there's sometimes a moment in the morning, I get up and sometimes it takes me, three seconds. Sometimes it takes me three minutes, and I've had days. I swear takes forty five minutes. And I'm like, I'm not going to get out of the bed until I decided meaning. How am I gonna take on the day? How do I feel about the day? How do I feel about my life and my going to go downstairs with optimism or those days you feel down about whatever you feel down about. And I think it's the constant decision. You're making the decision. And I know it's easier one daughter that you're talking about said to me once last year. Actually, she said, you know, what might be easy for you may not be easy for me. And so I think it's also saying where are my chink in my armor, and how do I create systems to to do it the way? I'm I'm trying to do it. What is that process of deciding lake is it just like a check in it is it's a big chicken. And it's it's sort of like straight talk. You know, like, hey, what is it the put energy towards today? And what is it that you're thankful for them? Why are you feeling down or frayed which thing can turn to anger the things and get keep getting? To that route. And being honest with yourself and saying, okay, I'm gonna decide because also I think when we go down, and we meet the world, our family, our friends our workplace. We buy decision. I think that's mostly what's coming back. And so I think it's doing that enough time to go. It's it's worth it. And then you know, if you're down and out you're down and out, and that's okay too. But I think most days it's kind of man or woman, or whatever you wanna call it and get out of that. Yeah. And just but be honest, like, I don't think it's about suppressing because that doesn't really work ignoring doesn't work. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about looking at it and saying, okay, who do I wanna be who am I trying to be keep deciding to do that? So let's talk about sort of the process of aging and strength in Gwynedd likes to say that she feels like she got an upgrade when she was forty. What does that mean like Shida spiel not to handle her? But that she doesn't really care what other people think about she sort of double down on her health and things strong. And I've worked out next to her like, she is strong, your you could probably I I think I could take lean on her. It's possible. I'm just kidding. But shos, I'm just laid on everybody. No, I agree with that. Do you feel like you are strong as you were when you are in college? Thirty years ago. Yeah. In some ways, I I certainly an in some ways, I'm stronger in some ways, I would say I'm not as explosive also, but I don't do as many as explosive things. But yes, I mean, I train still very very hard. And actually forty is interesting. It's sort of late forties. I'm finding to be different. But yeah, you can still be strong like a beast in for sure your whole life. Yeah. I'm not seeing that diminishing. I'm seeing the some of the explosiveness diminishing. So I'm actually adding more of that in than I even had in my late thirties is that part of your because you have a whole workout, right? I have several work. But isn't aren't you that yes, but people in pool and make themselves drag no killing no killing that will be easy to do. It's living. That's hard right now is we Soulard have for years for ten more than ten years. We're doing something that they call now ex PT and what it was is. There's so many benefits to training them water. But swimming is for some of us. It's a little monotonous. Yeah. And I out of the swimmers, but it's not for me and large always looking for ways to improve water. And so we started doing things with dumbbells and thirteen to water. Explosive jumps on inclines maximum hold rest things like that. So you increase your lung capacity training from your neck down and water is like training, and compression, and then also your to your joints. So again, speaking of ways of how do I it's not about a will always done. It isn't working. Well, we're supposed to adapt and change always. So it's about adapting and changing and saying, okay, I'm going to do one hundred jumps onto doom and water and things like that. So that's one of the things we do do a lot of heat. Nice for those of you. I mean, he nice have been around forever. It's like breathing. We've been doing a lot of breathing. And I always laugh it's like organic and bone. Broth people like, you know, if you've talked to a grandmother, she like, why are you guys you're genius? I mean, we're just I mean, it's really just going back to the basics. Right. Trying to incorporate it and actually almost get away from some certain parts of the high tech. Yeah. And don't let the high tech get in the way of things that are fundamentally important the truth. Honesty, hard work. But also in training there some things that are fundamentally really important. One of them is actually hard work. You have to put tension on the system in order to have changing growth. So and then I do have a Landa, circuit workout that. I do if you days a week with is quite a bit of jumping in moving around. So what we would call probably hit. What is the day? In your household lake? I follow you on Instagram. And I don't know if you guys follow her. But it's like fascinating watching the two of you is it I think, it's asinine. Sometimes. I don't think so I'm like here, we are one more day. I feel like I tried to write a book called death by domestication, but they weren't going for it. Seriously. You have a second naming books. I've a lot of names books. But and I see my husband's is I see him and look at them. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. It's just us here. It's like a caged animal. He is he totally like occasional. But he's the greatest he's such a wonderful husband and father. But then simultaneously. He looks at all of us, and he's like so much estrogen in this house. And there's been no big ways lately. And I'm like, I'm so so sorry, you're Steiner. I dunno. It's tell you. But. I think our house is not so different than any other house to be honest with you, I think it from the outside. It might be like there's some elements that are different like our jobs are weird. But I mean of ice baths. Yeah. But if we were in the Scandinavian countries this on the ice, it'd be like, okay. I think, you know, listen, we're doing the same thing that everyone's doing how are we navigating relationship our own personal health parenting, which is the mother of all right? It's the hardest ever changing one. But we do believe in family dinner. So we do sit around a dinner table every night. I think one thing that I have learned especially for my husband is a daily kind of. He's a cleared the decks kind of guy. So if I act weird for more than sort of six minutes. He's like what's up? So if you ask me, what one of the things that really is helpful is is that. And it's it's it's a dappling. Yeah. Right. If you said to me about training everything in training. I had a guy tell me if you ate for your blood type in a way, it wouldn't really work because if you're part of a tribe, and you say, we'll I for my blood type, you wouldn't be able to adapt. So you wouldn't survive? Buddy said if somebody comes to you and goes on meeting, my blood type and non meeting all these whole real foods, you'd say if your blood type, right? So I think in a way what I'm learning and training in marriage in parenting, and even an aging, quite frankly is just to be willing to adopt all the time because that's how we navigate these unknowns that are ever changing as much as we don't want them to change. They will be changing. So you think everything's dialed in its nothing's dial. Your dial you're dead yet. No true. Life has really likes to be surprising. We'll come back to the conversation in just a minute. Skin-care too little words that get a ton of air time over here at goop. Our passion runs deep so deep. We created our own line powerful. Nontoxic skin care published a book called goop clean, beauty and just launched a drinkable collagen powder. So yes, we're mindful about what we put honor bodies. But we're equally tuned into what we're feeding them. And for better or worse. What I eat inevitably seems to show up on my skin, which is where delicious superfoods like blue diamonds whole natural almonds can come in an easy source at skin friendly, vitamin E, along with minerals and fiber. This is the snack that can help keep skin looking and feeling good. And it doesn't hurt. The blue diamonds. Non-parole supreme almonds are dicta Lee snack satisfying. You can blend them right into smoothie bowls high pack them for midday pick me up when I'm traveling in the test kitchen the team uses them when they're cooking to visit dot com to get the full recipes editors whipped up with blue diamond whole natch. Tral omens. Okay, back together be. What do you eat an typical day? I know you guys make superfoods so layered forever. I've been we live in Hawaii part of the year, and I had coffee coffee beans are always showing my house guy walked around surf shorts. But like really nice coffee means ROY showing up so out of this natural love for his coffee and Paul check. Who's a really smart? Interesting trainer was putting coffee sixteen years ago. God, you guys could have had bulletproof. It's okay. There's enough for everybody. There's enough. And plus they were having yak butter tea. You know? And again, it's nothing original. But out of that came Lert, I do start my morning before I trained with coffee with quite a bit of healthy fat. So coconut and real raw whole unprocessed butter or ghee and Laird has a series of Cremers SuperFood tumor, Creamer, cow, Creamer, and organic coffees and things like that. So that takes me through my training, and then usually mostly vegetable and then with a little bit of high quality animal protein, I do eat animal protein, not tons of it. But I for my begins. I'm really sorry. I'm a meat eater. I've had people send me notes. I swear to God on Facebook. You guys seem so great. I can't believe me. I'm like. So, but this is what I think if you talk to people who eat real food. I think they're closer on the middle. Which is I just try to eat real food, not too many sauces, and I can feel like I need to take a break. So I'll do intermittent fasting. I might add bone broth or things like that. During that time. But I keep it pretty simple. Try not to snack too much. I try to eat until I'm barely full. I think we overeat general. It's amazing. How much we don't really need? So that's what I've learned. I used to eat like a horse when I competed. It was a great excuse. I just do less as more, and and what people will say like their weight and things like that. That's a lot of times, it's stress and sleep. I'm not agreed sleeper. I've always had a had to contend with sleep. So that's something. I'm always working on his good sleep hygiene on your Instagram. They continuously have genetic you're not. And I know I'm forget sleep guys. I got I got. Got some some genetic issues my sleep. But yeah, it's just you know, I think for me, it's going, okay. If you go to bed around the same time. Your body will start to get ready wind down. It's like why maybe try to put kids in bed around the same time dark room, keep your phone away cool room, so living up, here Beasley, keep it at about sixty two isn't it? So nice, no closing. It'd be like if we stopped on the ground, and you had an animal for over. That's really what it would be like how it'd be mazing. Let's do this. Call the chilly pad. You guys heard of it. Now, I'm serious. I mean think about how we used to sleep we weren't up on bed. So I think keeping things basic even in the food diets don't work. We know that how do you track your body like the scales, obviously problematic for probably almost everyone in this room. How do you? What matters. You like are you measuring what are you measuring? Or do you not measure? I don't measure. I asked myself how my feeling house my energy. And then the the death measure would be take a look in the mirror and go. How's it looking? I mean, I me those are the indicators when I wake up do I feel refreshed and energetic. I can take the load on of the day. I can see very quickly my training. It's really transparent in my training. I mean, I can even tell at this point. And I'm sure a lot of you are not different if I'm dehydrated in my training. It's. Listen, I know it's so cliche. But if we there's a guy named Matt Furey he does like insane things, but he'll say don't even come see him to work on your stretching unless you're hydrated. I mean, you're thirty percent more pliable and flexible just by being hydrated. So this comes back to being honest with yourself are you doing the work? And are you doing all the things you can do to support yourself in feeling good and looking good? And if you're not then ask yourself why? So if you're snacking I mean, I used to joke. I have my youngest daughter's ten, and she's kind of a brute and like it's like an assault every time she walks in the room. Right. And I used to joke that I would think about trying to grab chocolate or something every are to like Medicaid deal with. No. But I'm joking. But it's like we have these little things that we do in to cover or help us with something else. And listen if you want to talk because it tastes great and you want enjoy it. That's the perfect. Reason saying with food, but I think we can look at things whether we're staying up too late. Our relationships are friendships something going on in our job. That's keeping us really from. When we talk about like, oh, this good health that I want. I know it's so I think you're absolutely right. And I feel like it's like everyone wants it to be so easy or it's not worth doing. It's impossible. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's that sort of it has to be those two things unattainable or you can do it as easily as you breathe. And the reality is yet. It's like drinking more water, which I'm personally terrible. I am too. I'm always working on how do you work on it? I just carry it around with me and then to or I suffer. I learned the good old fashioned way the hard way, which is probably high learn everything which is like, oh, yeah. My muscles are stiff, and I don't feel good on my skin isn't looking the way normally does and. I just yeah. Hello, drink more water. So I think it's. That's why those check ins are important because we can be we can be honest with ourselves and nothing is easy. But nothing's impossible. I believe and I think it's very important to understand why we wanna do it. What's the hardest thing for you? You know, what I use tasks as an avoidance method. I use overworking grinding out. You know? You know, wiping down kitchen counters sometimes to avoid just being and I think that actually for me that's been the the biggest lesson is to just learn to take it in. They say like I'm used the hammer a lot in my life. And it was good. But it's not the only tool for the job. So I think that's the thing that because you miss a lot. Yeah. I think that's my main armor to business. It's sometimes easier. I think yeah. Stillness is like. You have to look at what's going on. It's like oh. And you have to look at yourself. But I would encourage people, you know, that this many times we have two homes the one we live on them when we live in. I just think it's makes it a lot easier. When we feel good to navigate all these things and women, especially will put everything before themselves. And I would encourage you that today is a new day. And and doesn't matter if you're twenty or sixty or seventy or doesn't matter we always have a chance to be a little bit better for sure. On that note, do drink should we go? Yeah. Not really. Oh god. Oh, not too much like one glass of wine every couple of months. Really I'm in Canada, the Canadian to like, that's like sacrilege. I know. I'm so sorry. I just I I mean, I'm a bore. What can I tell you? But at the end of the day, it's not serving me. And I don't feel better. When I wake up in the morning after I've had to kill us. So, but listen, that's the thing is how do we blow off steam? How do we get the edges soft? What do you think sugar is saying thing to sugar is your I'm not knocking anyone who drinks? I'm just for me. Personally. It doesn't really work well on that. Like, your guys are like Gabby was awesome. Right till then. That's okay. I'm the any of you out back. We can talk about it. I can give you the science on it. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening to my chat with Gabby today. She's brilliant and hilarious. And it was a real treat to meet her in person. And in case, you were wondering Gabby, and I actually did end up sharing glass of wine hers just happened to be made from data genyk, berries, not out gall for more from Gabby had to Gabrielle Reece dot com. And check out goop dot com slash the podcast. GP will be back on the podcast for regularly scheduled programing on Thursday. It's the Superfund episode. I laughed out loud for a good part of it. And I think you will to next day. You can listen to our final in goop held up Assode in this three part series. As always we appreciate listening, and we love hearing your feedback please rate review and share with your friends and just tap. Subscribe. If you wanna keep up with new episodes talk soon.

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Ep 140: Everybody Has a Beauty Story

Fat Mascara

1:05:57 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 140: Everybody Has a Beauty Story

"Yeah. It's time for scar. Everybody. Let's be energized because Justice over here clapping and messing up the levels. But also yawning, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I was really really tired. Welcome. I'm fine. I'm just it's just I just meet elite chess. I just need a little assistance this evening. Okay. Well, I am going to teach all the people all the things while you things we're going to talk about today sponsorships with celebrities one in particular, which we haven't talked about yet. Even though it happened like two weeks ago, KENDALL and proactive discuss. Then we have fixes for flyways as in those tiny little hairs that somehow in the middle of winter are worse than ever and last up is sunscreen, the new margarine or maybe even as bad as cigarettes, not a rhetorical questions. Researchers have answers I wanna talk about it. And then I cannot wait to welcome. Our guest, the fabulous. The knowledgeable the forever multitasking, Michelle Lee editor in chief of allure. So Jen, I am not one to follow the Kardashian shenanigans. They're just they're not really they're not for me. Cow does leave it at that. They're not for me. But of you know, about a week and a half ago. Sorry late to the party Kris Jenner announced on Twitter that KENDALL. Jenner was brave and roll noble for sharing her most Ross story in order to make a positive impact for so many people it help foster positive dialogue. It was a testament to the incredible woman youth, become okay? A lodge has a mental health issue. That's what a lot of people thought. What was it? She she had a second a second tweet which had things like hashtag be the change. Share your story. Hashtag change the conversation. Everyone thought what you just said mental, you know. Yes. Shedded mental health mental was gonna share. With us. Right. Well. Terry into that. Her mother was teasing the fact that she is officially she's the official face of proactive. Why is that something to like be vulnerable about? Well. Okay, guys. I just got a couple of million dollars to use this face wash. So vulnerable I ever feeling. I don't know. I feel like you probably get more than a couple million that's complete speculation here. I I laughed so hard when I found out and I found out like a little late like sorry. I was like in a hole for a couple of days when I did find vinyl because I saw these memes, and it was like my face when I found out, and it was like, you know, lots of people like like girl what? Rubber necking is bugging out. I I'm not surprised by this kind of like Kardashian spectacle. And this kind of like, you know, the the the dramatic and they're really masters of the media. But it raises a bigger question. Like, are you really like surprised or like at worse like are most implausibly like offended that like KENDALL Jenner would use something like this? No where people offended people. Some people were like, you know, some people there were there was a breath of reactions on the internet. She was giving such importance to such a trivial topic kind of thing just they felt kind of like played. Oh lease. I mean, we're getting played every single day by this is the internet. Okay. Yeah. Everyone's offended the thing. I think about when you said this, and you mentioned you onto talk about it. And I was just like oh, yes sponsorships? Whatever is that right now. Like, what is the earned media value of signing celebrity to me, you get a lot more value out of when people are like. I'm not sponsored. But like member Dr Adrian last week was like not sponsored by this company. And then started talking about it Vazza, lean Ola Henriksson banana Bray, my brain perked up and all of a sudden, I was more attuned to what she was about to say than some sort of contrived media, showcase like this was with proactive where then you just start to tune out because you feel like you're being played sidebar. I just wanted to say no that someone's probably taking this. I do think that like her stood if she was a serious acne sufferer, which she says, she was like, I don't think that it's like not I don't think it's trivial tab acne. And I do think that like if she was a serious acne suffer, and the whole idea was that she sharing some story about how acne ruined her life or made her like, you know, mentally unwell. That is serious. I'm not like side eyeing this. I'm just side eyeing the the general idea that like the idea of sponsorship today. Yeah. You know, I think we all need to be a little bit kind of with a raised eyebrow and take things a little bit with a grain of salt into your point, Jen like I think people need to be a little bit savvier about this stuff about. Yeah. Exactly quick question before we wrap this up. Who was the old proactive spokesperson that I do remember as a musician. I wanna say was Britney Spears that you shouldn't Timberlake. Oh, and they would show pictures of when they had acne when they were being shot by celebrity photos. And I was like well that seems. Real you know, how like it was like celebrities. They're just like us. But do you think that they did use Proactiv as former proactive user when I did have much worse acne than I do? Now, truly bad acne. That's the whole thing. It works. If you work and you've got to use it the micronized. Benzel approximate was like the only thing that worked for me their version of their face wash. Not all the whole lineup. Just the face wash Kozelsk would dry it out. So it actually really did what you have. But you have to use it consistently not light. So funny. Hey to the point that you think oh, I'm cured. But then you stop using it and then it comes right back. So I luckily got through that. And I actually think it's a great product. I think it's sort of doing a disservice to it to be honest. So I don't know what everybody else thinks tell us. Janai hair issue. Tell me all about it. It's been very pesky. And it's been bothering me. So I don't I would never say have frizzy hair. I know what frizzy hair looks like in don't think I have it. But at the top of my hair was the crown around the part line, my hair, which is like very kind of like its course. But it's thicker eight gets a little frizzy just around the part line. I would like it to do member. Like the game when you were little you would like rub a balloon like a party balloon up against the wall create some static and like put it on your head. I believe that was science class not a game. But yes, I do mister wizard or something like that like that you have Sadeq electricity issues. All the time is what you're saying. It's not static on my head. But like it's it just kind of like, it's not smooth. It's not like blow out smooth. And for those. Who can't see us, which is all of you just has straight hair rights. Here's textured or curly. I know it's probably less of an issue for people with curly textured hair. But when your hair straight, these things are even more obvious, right, right? It creates a textual inconsistency. So what are you gonna do about it? So I brought this up with a couple of different people and actually brought it up on Instagram stories, and some of you folks were really nice you sent me a ton of different tips. And some of them worked some of them didn't one of you guys had recommended the Christian s root touch wand. I try that the other day, I think user error used it onto hut too. High of a setting, and I think I created some more breakage. So definitely gonna try that again that one's like a tiny curling ironed that has a like a precaution. Her on it. So you can get really close like almost five millimeters away from your scalp regular curling iron you'd have to be further away. And there's a little comb, and you just sort of like brush it over and it heats it in like Sposato late. Yeah. So it didn't work. But but I don't wanna say that doesn't work. Think I work for me 'cause I use it improperly. So I'm gonna go back again. But in between that and my next chance I met with the wonderful dovey from W hair studio here in New York at I told him about my problem. He saw with his own two eyes. He recognized it immediately as a common issue, and he gave me what I he did it right before my vary on it worked on my God. This this is my new thing running preach. So for frizz at the crown I wanna take this is this is drew a gun dry or damp to dry hair. You're gonna wanna take some hairspray put on your hands. Like, literally soak, your hands, etc. Your hands and hairspray. And then you're going to want to smooth down. You're like pressing her palms against press, your palms on your hair. So your hair's getting high. Can't you just spray the hairspray because you really wanna kind of press it down you want that pressure. Okay. Not just like missing your hair, hairspray push it because that would freeze them in the opposition's. Yes. Okay. So you wanna press? You want and you wanna put your paws on your head? Then you wanna hit it with a hot tool that you could either blow dry it with a she's a blow dry, but make sure that nozzles on it because otherwise face downward. Yes, otherwise, you're just like creating like a little you're kind of winning them all up again she wanted nozzle or you can use a smooth. You can smooth it even with a barrel. Ironed kind of gently code it like touch, very lightly, very lightly, very lightly. Yes. And oh, and he goes if you if you use the blow dryer, high heat, low speed, it's all about control and getting the theme here control. I feel like you're sort of shellacking it in a way. No, no high. He no with the hair spray, then with the heat. It's sort of like making a coating a ceramic coating on like keeping it down. Yeah. But you're not like smashing down didn't feel crunchy. Oh god. No. Then sorry. There's more steps yet three step process. Then you want a smooth it with a starchy product. And this was so fascinating to me. I was like no not like like a Sierra Lixin himse with an oil serum. Sometimes with is. And he said, no he said too much moisture will make the hair pop up like if it's too loosey goosey. It's all about creating dryness over there because we have like serums and moisture's and cream's. Okay. Those babies will just slide up and pop up to right where they like they're bouncing springing full stars. He's so slurs Archie products. What I said to him Matt waves by orbi is a great one. Okay. 'cause it's like a dry product to anything that, you know, a hand feel anything that's gonna feel like a free. Yeah. Okay. Like those pasty tech game. Yes. Doesn't mean. Like you said like feels like helmet. You're not like smashing it down the hair. Just like you're going to have to do a little bit of a hand feel thing hairspray heat than. Dry starchy province, and he did that. And like it sounds like a lot of really didn't feel like a lot. It looked like I had glass hair class at the top. Yeah. We'll you're wearing headphones now in its super smooth. And it's working feel. I'm gonna try that. I have that issue as well. But I also frizzy hair. So we'll see how it goes. And you could sub in the the the Kristen s for one of the hot tools. Yeah. It'd be perfect usage wouldn't it? Yeah. Okay. I like this. Thank you perfect for winter too. When it's so staticky, and you take off your hat a million times. I like that. Thanks. Jess. Sure. Thanks, debbie. Jan I'm so excited that you're getting married. Yeah. Me too. Can I give you a bit of advice? Sign up for Zola, someone who got married I can tell you that you want to take the stress out of wedding planning, and this place has it all save the dates invitations your wedding registry tools. I heard you can use it to build a free wedding website. And I know that should be kind of something I have I know you're gonna want an FAQ section that tells people if they can bring their kids to your wedding if they can bring a plus one and also has this cool registry tool. You even away to build a virgin, yes. So this you can have presence from all. Different kinds of brands amazing brands co that's good. I'll do that. All right. I'm going to sign up for Zola. And if our listeners wanna sign up as well, they can get a free wedding website and fifty dollars off the registry by going to Zula dot com. Backslash mascara, that's Z O L A dot com. Backslash mascara they'll get to build a free wedding website and get fifty dollars off the registry. Jeff, I think it was just last week that we're like everybody's slow there on the phone screen, right? Yeah. Then I read the most interesting article in outside magazine, one of my favorites is sunscreen like margarine, meaning have we all been duped for so long, and we don't actually need to be wearing sunscreen. Okay, going, okay. Somebody who's made a living telling people to wear sunscreen partially I was freaked out. So I read the entire article will link to it on the blog. But basically, there's some rogue researchers who may not be rogue. We'll find out someday. Just like the people that were like transfat suck. Nobody thought they were right? And then they were transfats actually sup. So what they found was the more people wear sunscreen, incidences of heart disease and things like that. Obviously have not lowered. So they thought it was oh, you don't have enough vitamin d let supplement with vitamin d that's not helping lots of researchers showed them as well. And this one researcher found the issue might actually be. That what sunlight is doing isn't the vitamin d is just like a signal that you got the sunlight it wasn't. What was helping what was actually helping keep people healthy was the sunlight, so he put volunteers out and son for thirty minutes in the summer. And they're nitric oxide levels went up. That means nothing to anybody. But their blood pressure went down. So the actual sunlight was what was triggering their blood pressure to go down. And that of course, lower blood pressure makes you a healthier person all around the less heart disease and everything like cut to if you look at all of the research lined up. It seems that the more fair skinned people wear sunscreen, the higher that their blood pressure is because they're blocking out a lot of that son. That's we're so this article has a lot of other researchers talking about evolutionary biology, and how dark skinned people are much less likely to get all types of skin cancer. And we're not talking about melanoma, the more deadly ones more so talking about like, the basil cell and things like that that that are that are more prevalent now, and the reason they're more. Prevalent is because we don't go out and son. So when we do if we get a sunburn, that's what's triggering that Darren so not I want I won't say, there's a huge wave of experts. But some experts are starting to change their tune and say, especially for it depends on your skin tone, of course, because there's some like inherent, of course, different skin to should have different rules. If we want to be colorblind because we're worried about offending people. That's not medically. Correct. You know, black people white people Asian Hispanic different needs. But we do need a little bit of some exposure. It seems in order to be healthy. You know, what I kept thinking about this whole time is they're telling me nuts where sunscreen all the time, but nobody ever put sunscreen on right? It's not like I'm going out there with like a blanket of sunscreen, everybody who puts on screen still has some exposed skin somewhere. Yeah. There's no perfect -application. Right. Like like, so my thinking, you know, what my plan is now, but I'm going to because I don't I'm going to be honest about something, I don't use sunscreen because. I'm worried about skin cancer. You know, I'm like an olive Persian person. Like, I really am not out in the sun. All that much. What is your impetus? I wanna look young I'm using sunscreen as an age prevention. Sorry Micheli to anti-age myself. No. But like I will put it on my face. So my new thinking is I'm gonna keep putting it slathering over my face, neck and chest. But then I'll just leave my legs and arms out to get like, my vitamin d. So I don't have blood problems and heart problems. I I see your point. I am a little nervous about you getting. I mean, I just found out about this article. I'm not a scientist. I cannot conclusively say yes, this is great. I fully agree. You know, butt or disagree. I am nervous about the sun exposure, I did hear a couple years ago that like the fastest growing area. One of the fastest growing skin cancer is the legs because nobody puts SPF on their legs. Yeah. But probably for those less invasive types of skin cancer. I'm imagining, I don't know. I can't I can't tell you conclusive. Right. Right. So I I don't want people to think the legs are free for all now. No. But I also want them to talk to their doctor based on their skin tone and their race because the health issues that affects you know, like, you know, heart disease is more of a problem in the black community. This is what they're talking about. You give blanket advice to everyone because it's not it's so funny. I just took like a blood test recently. And like they asked me like about my genetic background. And I was just thinking like this is so. Like, not not funny. But like different in the cities have different types of concerns. And it's like Lutely, you know. I just never really think. It's commonsense though. Yeah. And as medicine gets more targeted and we're taking genetic tests in order to find out. You know, what problems we have? And even if you have type of cancer, they're going to test it to Netflix before they start testing it before they start trading it like, it makes sense that sunscreen should be one of those things that isn't alike. One-size-fits-all? Yeah. So I'm not going to be the person to get on this Mike and be like, you know, what you're cool you're from where no good bay. Of course. Not and also your fair skin light person with freckles. So I'm sure that you, and I have a different tolerance. But I really encourage you guys to read this. You know, obviously, it's just like an inkling of some new news coming out. But I think that we should watch this area of research because it might be MC member doctors recommended cigarettes. I'm not saying the sunscreen industry is trying to pull one over on us and make us pay for this thing, we don't actually need. But I really think there's going to be more research coming out, and we're going to start to see that. There are listen we like we evolved in the sun. You know, there's a reason we have circadian rhythms. The twenty four hour day, you know, because you're gonna pay for this one so much hate mail every day for this every dermatologist I ever interviewed go ahead at missions. Smoking right now. Is so good. I'm just picturing like the doctor let's circle on this forehead having a cigarette. Be like you're all good kid. We are here with Michelle Lee. I'm so excited that she's here. I mean, we've been waiting a long time. She's the editor in chief of allure and also a fellow podcast the podcast launched in December. And she's already had may musk on and Aquafina as guests. And she was also the former editor in chief of nylon she worked with intouch weekly life and style daily front row glamour loads of other websites and publications. Welcome to fat miscarry Machel, high lady, welcome. I'm so happy to be here. It's so exciting to have you here. We have tons of questions. Let's get right to it. When you were growing up, Michelle. What did you think about, you know, you're always in the beauty space, and we're gonna get to that? But what would how did you find out about beauty products and beauty advice? Yeah. I I was a late bloomer in every sense of the word. I actually didn't even hit puberty until nineteen. So that says medically medically. I didn't until his nineteen being funny. Oh, no. No. No, no. I'm not. Being I'm being funny. But that says so much about me. So I grew up in Connecticut, and until I was sixteen. My dad got a job in Florida. And then I moved on south Florida, which was like massive culture shock. Sure. But I consider myself. I think technically I was a child of the eighties, but I really consider myself to be a child of the nineties 'cause being a late bloomer. I feel like I didn't really even know about my own style until like the nineties hit. So when I think about myself back, then it's like, I didn't really start thinking about makeup or hair or skin or anything until I was like my late teens, and it was very much like remember, the movie singles of words of that. Bridget fond of like my dream. So I wanted to be a cut my hair like that. I I had I I did not do the little I and do a little hat. I definitely wore like tights. And like, doc, Martins and little shorts little jackets and stuff. And that was like, my look, and it was weird because I think that at that time, especially I didn't really feel like beauty media or fashion media. Serving me. Right. And like, we talk about all the time now diversity and representation, including everything and for sure in media and entertainment like I never saw a person who looked like me. Maybe it was like in Wayne's world. It was like Tia career was like one Asian girl was like see a career flashback like super babe babe, which I was really thankful for because it was like Tia career. And then Connie Chung was the other person who actually saw Connie super bay a super babe who I also saw an event like a couple years ago. And I was just like, wow, she was like it. She was like the one Asian woman who I ever saw. So you feel like throughout my my younger years. I definitely always had a very conflicted view of beauty. And what was beautiful for sure, you know, when I looked at people the ones who I looked up to the supermodels. It was like Kate moss and Cindy Crawford. And that was the look, and my mom definitely has been big influence on me. But my mom was not like a big beauty fanatic. She really didn't wear makeup. She definitely did pond's cold cream that was thing. Pond's cold cream? And then the little pink glass bottle of oil of olay. I have very fond memories of like that pink oil of olay sent it took me a really long time to learn about hair and makeup and everything else. But then when I started really getting into I really got into it like I did again, it was the nineties. I was doing like fully like the lift liner. I did like a a lot of eyeliner all the way around my eye, and it was a lot of experimentation. 'cause at that time again, we didn't have YouTube. We didn't have Instagram. There was no way to really understand how to do makeup on Asian is right. And I'm I have modeled is meaning I don't have a crease. And so every time I would see in magazines and stuff like they would tell you how to put on I shadow. I was like how do you do that learning all of this where you reading other magazines magazines by the time, I was like in my late teens, and then for sure in college, I was definitely reading magazines. It was being vogue Ellum RIC flair like all the fashion magazines and in their little captions and stuff, right? Like everyone. Does they would write the instructions about how to do the look and always? And it really difficult because I didn't have the same shape. Is anyone say how the hell do you do that? Right. And then also like I do have this weird memory of when I was like a young kid that at some of my friends birthday parties, they would have it was either like the Avon lady or Mary Kay or something. They would come in and do like a party those make party, and they would test your your face in your skinnier coloring, everything until you if you were warm color, or if you're full color me beautiful. Yes. The other one that did the seasons member the seasons the coloring beautiful had seasons it summer Michelle summer winter fall. Remember what I was? Yes. I quite liked to. That book it was called beautiful. Okay. I couldn't remember that. I couldn't remember that. For some reason, I thought it was like the woman's name. But yeah, it was like a whole thing. So when you got to allure, I know him jumping like quite a few years after. But did you bring any of that with you like you must have had a vision of what you wanted to mean. At least when you had to like present your vision to the folks at conning has do you had to say something like what did she? Well. First of all it was like, whoa. Like, oh my gosh. I was in shock that. I'm like talking to them about this role. But then definitely like through the process I had to come up with a deck. And I was like I wanna just like below them away with us and do really great jobs. I presented this beautiful looking design deck to them about what my plans were. And you know, involved a lot of different things. It was digital social video obviously like they were bringing me on board to bring Lor into a more modern space. I think at the time that I started three years ago. It was very much known as just a magazine. So I really needed to bring it into all those other platforms. But then also it was just making sure that a freshened up with the image of allure was also thinking about what beauty was at that point too. Because I think right when I joined we're celebrating our twenty fifth anniversary. Was his twenty five year old brand, which is amazing has awesome history of being like, a super smart, trustworthy, brand that has done so much in the beauty space for me, though. Like, I definitely think about that deck and one of the big things was diversity. And I think my own experiences with beauty growing up and feeling like, I wasn't included and everything I think that that definitely had a huge impact on what I wanted to do with the brand just in terms of like making sure that people felt included having making a stronger viewpoint having stronger viewpoint on cover stars too. And I think that the first year it was a lot of transition. It was a lot of like getting the staff rate making people were all on the same page about things are second year. We'd definitely like just hit our stride. I think we had amazing covers we became the first major women's magazine and states to have a woman in hejab on the cover is that one of your what's one of your proudest moments. Whether it's a story or cover whatever looking back over those three years if for sure was. That I think having holy added on our cover. We had the big cover line that was this is American Beauty now via and if you think about what was happening in the world at that time. I think we were all obviously thinking about politics there was like the big Muslim travel ban at that point. And then also later that year, I think it was in September. We had Helen Mirren undercover. And we declared we're banning the trim anti-aging wanted to ask you about. So yeah, we had like these big moments where I think that especially when I look at that. You're those two thousand seventeen where we hit our stride. It was that we were taking beauty and making sure that we broadened it in a cultural sense that obviously we all like, you guys know like we all love products. Like, I love every single day looking in my corner and getting my bags and boxes and playing with new stuff. But I think that for me it's been really interesting to think about everybody has a different beauty story. So whether you're Helen Mirren, whether you're helium Adan, whether you're Aquafina, whether you you're whoever your beauty story is really fascinating. And it goes beyond just the products that you're using spin the feedback like. The feedback for the most part has been really positive. I mean, I think that for anyone who works at media. You know, that it's always like, you get that little percentage though, that is negative, and I think talking about the the Halima cover, I think for me like there's something in my personality of where even if ninety five percent of the comments are super positive for some reason is up five percent that a hang onto. And I'm just like gets to me so much. I think over the years, I've kind of learned to one just kind of wait it like, I tend to think that for a lot of people for me in particular. It's really easy for me to get derailed by something like CNN comment. And it'll just take me out for like the rest of the day where I'm like, I just keep thinking about it. So now, I feel like who come up with different strategies to avoid it like won't won't read the comments, I'm calm, or if it's like if I know that there's an Email coming or something that's going to derail me. I'll just make sure that I don't look at it until the next day for the most part. They're like, I said the the comments the feedback. Has been amazing. We won that year ad weeks magazine of the year. I won editor of the years. Right. Like it. Definitely when I think back about that. That is such a proud moment. Because again, thinking about everything that was going on in the world, you know, you're competing against the New Yorker, you're competing against Newark magazine. The fact that they awarded a lore with that. Like, it's it really means so much the talk aging, I was gonna ask about the anti. Will you did actually? Okay. So. Yeah. I mean, we, obviously this is something I work in a space where you know, the anti-ageing conversation is is very relevant to what I do. So I think it's very interesting that lure stake in the ground. And they said this isn't twenty seventeen you know, we're not gonna use that term anymore. And you wrote in anyone who is interested can go online. I think you're editors letters is online. They can certainly go and read it, but you were pretty clear about why you wanted to remove that from the conversation, but if you can just kind of recap here what led you to that? Yeah. Well, interestingly, I think the first time that it came up was from Philp Accardi. So Phil, I think most people know podcast guests was he dwells really amazing. So we have a whole lure log lineage using so Phil I think Phil most people know was at some point the chief content officer at teen vogue. But he also spent some time as the digital director at allure. And so at the time he was actually one of the youngest members of our staff, I think he was maybe twenty four twenty five at the time. And he brought up at some point. When he first started with us. Why are we still using this term anti-aging, of course, twenty four year old? You know, we're sitting right? And I was like, yeah. It's it's really true. And it stuck in my head. But then maybe a month or two later Johnny by who's our executive beauty director. We were down at PC peace conference in in the beauty world. And we were having a conversation with a brand and Jennie had not listened to this conversation that it had with Phil before. But she also brought up this thing of like. Yeah. You know, when we're in the office, or when I'm talking to my friends, we don't ever really conversational say anti-aging products. Right. Like, you would say what are you using for the lines around your eyes, or like, what are you using for, hyper pigmentation, or even what vitamin C, sir are using people know so much now about ingredients. It's not something that you say, what's your favorite anti-aging product to a friend. So the more that we started talking about it in the office, the more that we started thinking about we had done so much in those previous two years on diversity, but we were really focused on body image. We were focused on gender, even on skin color on hair. Texture on all those different things. But the thing where we were still frankly failing at was aging, and it was free covergirl signing may must get thing. Right. Yeah. All that and funnily enough when you asked about feedback. It was one of the things that I got a lot of feedback about was anytime. I would get like a handwritten snail mail letter was like you've made the brand too young. And I definitely, you know, sometimes you get crazy people writing to you either online, or you know, in mail, or whatever. But I feel like there is something to always kind of listen to all those I definitely took that to heart. And I I thought about it a lot, and I was like we have actually filled with that like the models who were choosing the people who were choosing to highlight. Like, we are ignoring anyone over certain age. And what age is that? I would say the time. I mean for some reason everyone chooses forty rally guys. So I'm forty three. Okay. Yeah. And that's the interesting thing too. Is that like, you know, M I aging myself out of who I think our audiences, and I don't think that we thought that in the audience. And the office. But I think that we somehow had moved into the space where it had gotten young. And we were sort of like ignoring this whole other demographic. So it was really important to us in the more that we thought about like this term anti-aging. And I know it was controversial. I think for the most part we got a lot of positive feedback. When we said, we're going to be on this term. We want the industry to join us. But I definitely feel like there were people who were like come on. It's all just semantics is just a word we understand what it means. I think about it in terms of like, the word diet Riley. I've been working in media for like twenty two twenty three years and way back in the day. We used to always use the term diet, and it kind of became this thing of where women were technically starving themselves. Right. They were starving themselves for the sole purpose of being skinny and they just wanted to be like waif lake lake lake. Keep moss the thought process behind like starting diet was that you did it for the sole purpose of being skinny nowadays. We kinda switched to the mentality of wellness where you're going to eat, right. You're gonna. Exercise you're doing some of those same things, but it's with the purpose of longevity. It's to feel better to have more energy. I think of at the same way as anti-aging to that. If you're using skincare products in your intention of it is to have good skin health. And you wanna have like you can totally work on those things like you can work in your wrinkles, working your, hyper pigmentation, but you're not doing it from a viewpoint of feeling desperate to do those things because you feel like if you don't do them that you're going to be considered ugly or that you're going to be considered like old looking, but it's not coming from the size of fear is that it's not a place of trying to change while you are trying to change if you're trying to sort out your wrinkles and dark spots. It's it's funny. One isn't it? Or is that your personal take on aging? How you feel about it? Like now, you're forty-three in probably using some of these products or maybe even getting injections or whatever one hundred percent. I am I think that's the point that we wanted to make was that. We are. So not against any skincare move me. I used so much skin care. The ten step in the morning of the night. I love skincare. Love seeing dermatologists, I love facials everything. And I think that's the thing is that we're not trying to shame anyone for anything that they're doing. I think what we're trying to remove is the shame associated with the way that frankly, a lot of beauty products have been marketed to people over the years that it is. It's like that fear based marketing that you're going to be old and ugly. And no one's gonna love you. If you don't use these problems, I understand what are some other changes that you've been trying to make allure? Yeah. I think one of the other things has been media in general, really like I didn't really know a lot of people before I started there, and I always talking to people like readers editors editors really like people very much spoke from the Royal. We right like we speak from a award. I think what happened over the past ten years or so is because of social media and YouTube and everything else we wanna know personalities. Choose I feel like what's happened over the past three years at had been. There is I I wanted to push people front and center. So I feel like definitely like more of the editors out there. Whether they're doing videos, though, they're on social media. That's definitely been a big thing diversity for shore. And again, just like all the different platforms. Like, I'm really happy. The fact that like the magazine is still big and growing, vibrant and everything, but like our digital grows and social in video has just like completely taken off. And then also we have other businesses. We have our alert beauty box. So that's been also really fun. So you mentioned before the I was at nylon and nylon, I was the editor in chief and chief marketing officer, which I don't think has ever happened before that it's sort of like being an editor and a business person like the publishing side, and the editor aside, exactly sticky. It's it's sticky. But I'm a big believer that people can do both that as long as you're transparent about things. It's like that question also about like editorial like can editors do branded content. Right. I'm living proof. But again, it's just if you're transparent about it, you, you know, when you're working on it, if you're working on edge Hoiles when you're working on Brandon. So I just personally from my background and everything else. Like, I love working on businesses. And I feel like I have been really inspired by just like the start up movement in beauty. I wanted to ask you about the beauty business to we talked about media. But the brands have been doing something similar to what you're doing which is leading personalities come front and forward have you noticed a change? It's like in the last three years, basically when you've been a lower in the way that brands are trying to tell their story as far as a media placements like do they care about getting a print story in Laura or they just like worried about, you know, compression, holding still care? Yeah. So what what have you noticed changed about the way beauty companies are marketing to consumers? Yeah. Oh, and are you happy about it or not? I mean, I definitely think that personalities are important across the board. And part of it is because sort of what I was saying, I guess about diversity to the fact that if you show like multiple faces, and you feel like you can identify with someone like telling someone's personal story or like having a face show is so much more important sometimes than just showing like product, we're like a smear or something definitely been that. I think social media and YouTube have been like huge game changers and mostly Instagram. Honestly, I think the fact that everybody I talk about a lot that like everything is kind of becoming the same in that. Okay. At a lower. We started out as a media brand. But now, we truly are just a brand wrestling products. We've got our alert beauty box. We're maybe launching an event at some point soon. But then you look at some of the brands to and now brands if you started as a Kuzma brand, you may be started out selling products. But now, you're a content creator, you know, suddenly getting into maybe producing a Netflix show like everyone is kind of doing those same things we were all just like these three hundred sixty degree brands. But what about the speed that? We're doing it like the launch cycle. Like, how do you keep up when brands every month dropping new product? Is that bother you ever? It's kinda crazy. I mean, do you think it's crazy? We were just. Just because we realized that a lot of these products are coming out just to make noise and not necessarily because someone needs them once them on their face the same brand talk about waste. I know. I just Matlins phase right now. I love it. Hey. I actually have been really encouraged by some of the brands like then I met you. We're like win Charlotte launched that. Like the fact that it was just the cleansing do. Oh, my thought was really amazing because I like I like it just so much to take right now. And maybe it's that I can take it from certain brands where like is still feel excited if I see a new lake tarp package or like if shinola was to drop something on my desk. I'm like, I'm still kind of excited to see that. Or Pat McGrath dropped something. But I think it's also it's understanding who your brand is and whether or not you should be the one doing that. Like everyone right now is kinda stuck in the same cycle of feeling like they have to play that same game. When actually maybe it's just better for your own brand that it's like you do the singular drop like once every season, right? Yes. Schnell started coming out with like the palette with Patrick starred. Be really confused. I don't know. That's having any time soon. So I'll just touched on this. But like, you know, I see you obviously, you're in editor and chief. But I also, you know, people who really see you as like an influence, or, you know, oh, I know Michelle follow her, and I don't know often with you and your family. Nail. Art. How do you see your role as an editor in chief in twenty nineteen? What is the role of of an editor in chief today? Yeah. I mean, it's so hard left like the word influencer has this weird. Connotation, right. Does that mean to you is that was that kind of like a like a diss? Sorry. Well, I feel like I saw it maybe three years ago when the word blogger became really negative. So even people who I knew who were bloggers, I would see them at fashion week or something and be like, oh, there's a blog on the blogger like, I'm an influence. Yes. Our kind of moving into this time where people are like, oh, the word influence or is like not right. I'm a creative director like you'll see a lot of. I'm a creative director now. I don't mind the word like I I think that I look at Instagram. I say, yeah, it's it's all Instagram because I'm not really on other social like in terms of like my job for me Instagram is really the focus. I do view it as another arm of my job. I think that my very first job. When I was first starting out was glamour so way back when Ruth Whitney was the editor in chief doing there. I was an intern. So do you know what the as internship is like the American psyche magazine editors so I was an Azmi intern. And so I was there for the whole summer. Cindy, Levy, I think was the deputy editor editor at the time. But I remember looking at Ruth Whitney. And at that time as an editor in chief you had one job you had the magazine, and you're one time that you got to communicate with your audience was through your one monthly editor's letter. And that was it who's unless somebody was writing you a letter and sending it to you, and maybe respond back like there was really no way for you to communicate with people more like an event or something nowadays, the fact that I can communicate with people on a second by second level. It's a little bit maddening sometimes because it can you can go a little bit crazy with it. But actually love it. So can I ask you, you know, you do video and you're like, okay, I'm in, you know, my bathroom, or my, you know, my office yada, yada and people they must. Must right to immediately. Like, I love that. Or do this. Do you? Do you write them back? So, but what about I know your job is so busy? I've seen you. How do you juggle? And it's funny using this is part of your job. I I struggle. I don't even have a fraction of the followers. You have I struggle with this balance. So how do you manage all this time wise, I'm actually looking for tips for myself? So okay. So here's one little. Yeah. I don't I don't respond to everyone right away. I know I know certain responses are going to be faster than others, and you know, how in your iphone you can kind of program like shortcuts. No, I'll show you after this settings. You can do. So for example, a publicist will message me on Instagram. What address can I send this to? So I put a little shortcut in my phone. That's Addy ED why. And then I just typed that and my tire address goes in. So it's like I have little shortcuts that things like that where I know it's going to be fast. I'll sometimes respond right away. War just flag it and then by the end of the day, like if I'm sitting in bed or something then on kind of go through all my unread things and try and respond to people to feel like personally taxed by all this or does it invigorate. You it depends because I feel like this is this can release suck your suck your soul. Yeah. It depends. Like, I feel like right now, I feel invigorated by it asked me again in six months. I might not feel that. Yeah. Yeah. No. Because it is. It is part of the job that I think people don't understand like, it's very it. Feels quite personal feels like a little bit. Yeah. I've always wondered like what if your brand that you don't actually match up with like lure seems to be you. And you've changed it in your own personal personnel direction. But yeah, I don't know you're giving a lot of yourself. That's what I'm trying to get. Thanks for doing that, Michelle, by the way, I think the thing is too. I'm careful about what I share one thing is I don't share a lot about my personal life. I don't share a lot about my family whose husband got two kids. I share my daughter sometimes. But being Kate. I also care about their privacy though, too. So we created this little character for her. That's mini Michelle Lee, and she actually has her own little mini Michelle the Instagram now, but you'll notice you wear sunglasses, and so she's wearing sunglasses because I always felt weird about until they're of the age when which they're kind of like, okay, mom. I'm okay. Like being out there. And you show me like I was just felt like that should be their decision to. So I am like wearily private about some of those. And that's why I feel like my Instagram is sort of like, that's my it is my company like my brand persona in a way like that. Yeah. And I think like what you're saying though to about, you know, some people know me as an editor in chief. But I went to LA recently like a couple of months ago and two girls separately. Like, I was waiting for my bag at the carousel and this one girl stops music. Hi, Malo, you I really love your account should know. Ideally, like wasn't like I love a law or anything. It was like I love your Instagram. And then I was walking a little bit more, another stop high, follow your Instagram, and it did occur to me that. Like, I do feel like it's good for the overall brand the fact that I feel like I'm bringing people into our world. And I definitely have had people message me to being like, I really love your nail nail. Art. I really love your videos at you're doing you're making me want to subscribe now. So I feel like it is new people enter you said it invigorates right now. Let's talk beauty products. Like, what brands are invigorating you or product categories or things that you've been seeing that you're like super psyched, I love skin-care. I have to say like, I'm definitely skin here fanatic. I mentioned I'm fully on like ten steps ten years ago. I'd never would have thought I would use this many products. I really believe in like gentle products, then because we've brought lots of them lost them. I definitely more gentle gentler magenta. Yeah. I mentioned than I met you who else is doing it. Okay. So I can kind of walk you through like my morning scheme your routine. So I loved Hajjah tasha. I think is amazing use their essence. I am using peach and lily that glass skin serum which I think is really good amusing drunk elephant the vitamin C serum. What else do I really like, I definitely am an ex-police later at least twice a week. There's a really good Joanna Vargas, it's like the scrub mask that she has that. I really love I like revive for like a day moisturizer? They have a dark spot corrector that has I think it's like SPF thirty this really really good. I definitely have been very into masks to. So usually on the weekend. Like, I'll do a Saturday mask and a Sunday mask, and I'm not loyal to any mask. I think maybe because I try so many of them. Yeah. What was it about all those brands union a bunch of prestige brands several of them were founded by Asian American women? I noticed also. But what drew you to them? Like, why do you think they're standing out and they're all fairly new brands to there weren't like any legacy in there? I'm just curious like what in general speaks to you about products? You know, it is I I went through about probably. Two years ago of really bad cystic acne, and I was really trying so many new products as we all have to do in this profession, and I was kept breaking out, and I couldn't get a under control. And I was just a one was using too many new products every single day we're going through this period. Testing for the beauty were best of beauty awards, and I chose night cream's sheet masks and foundations one years jailed hall in the shampoo. It wasn't easy. Such a weird rookie mistakes. In hated me. I went to dump tolerance. And she was like your skin is just rejecting you right now. So I think after that point I was like I have to just like completely revamp my entire routine, and again like using that were a little bit more gentle after just trying a whole bunch of things like these are things that have worked for me. I don't know if it has anything to do with them being newer or being led by Asian American women. Maybe is partly that. I think I am a little bit prone to. When I have a founder come in. And explain to me like, Charlotte. Did this is how I came up with this cleansing bomb? This is how I came up with this. These are how we source the ingredients. I do love hearing that Oregon story you get them. Like, oh that totally. I really do love that product. But yeah, I mean, I think that because I've tried so many things like those are the things that work especially for morning. The thing that annoys me the most is if I use a serum or a product and it pills under Mako a hate it. And I feel like all of those like do great on my skin. They make me look globally. The other big thing for me to is that a I went almost my entire life thinking ahead oily skin. Because by the end of the day, we all get oily at some point within the past five years or so I went to see someone just like you have actually extremely dry skin. So once I just even discovered what my actual skin type is like I feel like that helps to question for you. How do you feel about the word normal skin the term normal skin does? I right. What is normal skin? What was the cause? This is come up recently a bunch of conversations like is that exclusionary say normal, meaning oily skin is abnormal dry skin is abnormally. I don't think. So she's making a face. She doesn't agree. But just. That did because I was trying to think of a were we we were both talking about what's the word that would be not the word normal. What else would you say? Well, I've heard the thing about good skin. Right. People have said like don't say good skin because what is good skin that? It's like good the bunch of people with good scam. Okay. So that's ring a bell just for brands like allure that. So so important to be inclusion. Yeah. For me. It's I don't understand what normal skin is. I don't think anyone has. Dryer something somewhere. So as exciting to me highlighter, I'm really excited by and you right now. So today, I layer I have that flower beauty palette, which I really like. So that's under. And then I got is that ritual defea the alchemist have you seen that? Okay. So they sent me this thing. It's I think it's pretty sure it's out. And I'm not breaking some rule was embargo. Embargo was basically where are they calling? It's highlighter intensify. So if you do like a highlighter under and then it's like it comes in like, they're normal like cute little thing. And it's a little bit glittery. But it's like a cream highlighter that you then put over it. He put over highlighter. It's for your highlights highlighter for your highlight partially-sighted all the Shelley. Thank you. Wow. Name for that. Anyway, did you issue nemo on? No. But we just saw her yesterday. Okay. Does she tell you about this? I think I saw a photo of her on Instagram. That's so like an am both thing. That's a very nonvoting highlight. What's her thing? Nivea Dewey dumplings. Do we don't glow? Gloag Azam glow glow yourself. My thing. I made up that last one. Okay. So now art that is your other big thing. And you have some banging nail art fired. By you like, how do you keep it on? And have two children. So those Joe's they always looked perfect. Tell me everything only do polish now but to polish every day not every day. I try and do once a week. You probably were dish gloves. Don't you? I don't do dishes. Okay. That's helpful. So my son is thirteen. And so one of his chores is he does the dishes got a kid. And you gotta get a kid. My nails are gonna look good. Get thirteen year old. So yeah. To me. It's again, it's something I enjoy I think a beauty, and I think of I think of makeup, but I also think of nail specifically as like, this is my creative. Palate. I have before like giving my nails a break, and I'll go like three days and not have anything on my nails, and they feel so naked to me. And now, I think because people know me for my nails like if I see someone I haven't seen in a while. They're like, let me see your nails on I. Yes, there's pressure. There's for sure pressure. So these were done these paintbox, but from I would say like seventy five percent of the time. I'm doing the myself. Off. And my big thing is coming up with Neil are that is really easy to do. Because for most people like, I'm right handed. So my left hand is obviously not as co-ord- right doing things. So I usually try and find his eyes that are easy enough. And like still kinda cute that I can do with my like kind of crazy left hand and since you're using polish now, which I really like because I did Joe recently. And I swore off gels for a long time that I did it again in though, completely regretted it. I love that you're going back to basics polish. But how are you keeping them from chipping so much like do you have a favorite top code? You have a hack what's going on? Or just be very careful. I am careful. I will say that's that's the biggest thing is that. Are you a light typer? Well, it's the typing doesn't bother my nails though. Because that's just really like. Okay. My my finger pad voice. Texter boys texture for sure it's really digging in bags like I have like a little bag, and I find that if I dig in my bag all the way in the bottom that can really ruin your nails, some careful about this is all making everything you're saying not to do what I do like. So that might be part of the problem and don't use your nails as tools either. Like, sometimes if you you know, if you go to a store, and it has like a little sticker on like we're gift card. What do they do us back cards Christmas? Every single one is like a freaking penitentiary of numbers that you can't get threes. Don't use your like, we all tend to then go use. My my nail as a tool scrape this thing. But now we're going to hear Michelle in our voices. Saint don't yells tools. That's a good one. And then also wants to my nails. I will top. I'm I don't have a favorite taco. Honestly, I really tend to just whatever their is around little such feet. Maybe maybe whatever's whatever whatever's around I do. I have a lot of Zoya stuff at home, which I'm using a lot. But then two or three days after I do my nails atop co again. That's one of the big things is that like eventually after like three or four days. You know, you're going to get little dings and stuff your nails. If you top code at that point and just let it dry perfectly. You your manicure should last a little bit long. Nice. And you mentioned, you know, whatever's lying around what products are lying around your desk. So the office many, I probably a hundred facial missed. Yes. Or no facial nece hundred presents. I have Mario Badescu. Very good to me in his sent me. Like, I'm not getting twelve. Like in different sizes and everything so you will find probably a dozen. Mario Badescu mists around. Are you a dog person or cap person jen's theory? I know bribes I'm a cat person. But you like facial miss. I do she's robe you she the one person hasn't. She's not at rogue. I teams that if you're a dog person you like facial Mus, but if your cat person, you don't and so far is pretty much worked out with everybody. We ask but years for off my numbers saying, well, I when I was growing out liar. When I was growing up we always had a dog, and as became an adult we now have cat. Okay. After just my. You have more than one cat. We have two cats. Beautiful. What are their names so Bowie an Atari beautiful? Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't up to the facial. What else? Else? Does I have a lot of Islamists? What else is on my desk? Handcream for sure. So that's another thing that people are always like what hand cream? Do you use what cuticle oil? I can don't really use cuticle that much. Like, I feel like for me, the annoying thing about cuticle oil is that anytime that I'm touching my hair or anything else. It's all over me all of my face. It's all over my hair. So I'm I use hand cream. I would say sometimes up to twelve times a day just because it's like right near my chemo, your hands are so pretty yeah. When do you like I have the one that's on my computer right now is growing alchemist. So they haven't body cream. And again, I'm not using things that are called handcream. I'm just using any lotion or anything I'll go to trader Joe's, and they have like a big singling body lotion. And I'll just get that. My husband actually, ordered from like a health food store or something. There's this thing called gator bomb. That's like what is Mr. Michelle leads doing ordering. So I just saw this thing. I think he had like dry hands or something like dry cracked skin. So he thought he needed something that was like really late, vir? An intense bought this thing, and I just saw it like sitting in our kitchen at some point. I'm going to use this. And it's actually pretty awesome. Hater ball. Gator bomb. Cool. Okay. All right. Any other products? Like, we we've got the inside scoop right now. Fragrance we always like to ask you about an hair. Yes, we let your goals. So I have a couple of favorites. So one of my favorites is LeBow Bergamo twenty two and love anything kind of citrusy and clean and fresh anything. Too. Heavy not really a fan of love that one. And also love forget like the exact name of it. It's the the Louis Vuitton Luger celeb- the one that was like the morning day on the mountain. Yes. It's like the not the first launches second linked to it on the blog lovely. Story about that's why I know that one morning day on the mountain it's beautiful, and it's pretty and I feel like both of those. I don't mind like some people change their fragrance per season. Right. Where it's like, you feel like I need my winter fragrance, and you my summer fragrance, I I wear those like, no matter one. Yeah. And then hair here, I for the longest time had really had short hair. So I always had it lays right around my ears. And then I grew it out. I think I started growing at about two years ago. I went through this very awkward phase of where it was like that weird like middle stage, and the now it's finally starting to feel long, and I'm having a lot of fun just like styling it and doing it and stuff, and it just people now like literally just this week have been like, whoa. Where did your hair come from? So I feel like the products that I've been using have been a little bit different to I've been trying to use really hair care. I've been trying to use more clean beauty products have been doing like brio us nature lab, not clean beauty. But like pros sent me somethings. I've been trying that. And then hairstyling I have been not cannot super loyal to anything. I try a lot of different things. I been trying really hard to only wash my hair. Now once a week is this wave you have natural nose. So this is flat iron. Oh, do it yourself. Wow. You really know your way around like a beauty tool. Editor in chief is that. So you're titled we call you like brand content as its editor and chief chief of allure knows her shit. But usually you can outsource that stuff at that level. Well, show DIY girl. Like, I feel like I love I love learning stuff myself. And that's why as much as I could probably find someone to do my nails every week. And that would be amazing and fun. Our listeners, would volunteer. Yes. But I I don't know. I get a lot of enjoyment like learning how to do it myself. And I was not always good at doing. I actually I used to be terrible doing my hair. And so my poor daughter was in ballet, and like, you know, all the moms have to. Bun. Her Bunn was like the Jenkins weirdest looking lopsided. Mommy does for a living. That's so funny. Yeah. So I'm trying really hard to only wash once maybe twice a week. Now, just for like, my hair health. So I I never used to understand dry shampoo before goes up personal owner, STAN like, why do people like this? And now, I'm like, very dry shampoo. I use the bumble one for that. But again, not super loyal. I feel like I have a ton of them have like a whole row of them in my my office. So whatever is they're kind of like spits in my hair. The big thing for me, though, is at my hair's, really black. So there are some of them that make my hair, look, gray. Because. Passed. So that tends to be the thing that like it's either the scent of it, or if it leaves the white cast in my hair that I'm not into one that you love that you can recommend. I think I like the boom boom nourishing one. Okay. That's kind of like my my go-to right now. And then my other may other big pet peeve. I guess about my hair is have a lot of like little flyaways onto all your episode will actually tough. We are. We're sorting that out. Don't wait. So what should I use? You're gonna listen to your full episode of full episode. Okay drops. Well, because people have told me before to do like, the natural hair, the natural fiber toothbrush and set were. Yeah. Yeah, though. Okay. We got you. All right. I was just using like not a great hairspray on it. Maybe needed fatter hairbrush. Maybe fatter toothbrush. Maybe. So my problem have you ever seen like the Asian babies where when their hair's like short their hair, just stick straight up? That's my hair because I have these little baby here's growing there's not like wires like they just stick straight up. I especially if I'm standing against a white background or something like these crazy wires sticking out. Michelle don't through the episode to hear how you did. We might have some help for you. Okay. Good. Was there anything we should've asked you that? We didn't. I'm trying to think about like, even like beauty stuff. I mean may make up. I okay. So the other thing, I'm really. Yes. Yes. Yes. Eyeliner? So I Don through I think maybe in my lifetime tried over a hundred islanders does because I'm so fanatical about it. I'm very fanatical about eyeliner and mascara and sometimes people say to me like, what's your favorite mascara? But I feel like mascara is one of those things it's so personal very percents that like, my lashes are not at all like, your lashes. And so what I may be like in the things I really need. My lashes are very straightened six straight down the very short. So I need something that when a curl them is going to hold my curl someone who has longer lashes doesn't need that for me. The like, mascara wise. I I really really love him using right now land comb Monsieur big water. And I when I tell other people they're like, it's not actually their favorite. I saw Gemma Chan the other day, and I really love. Also, there's the Maybelline the falsities. It's like it's very specific ones mailing the false flare. Waterproof. She's the only other person I've ever met who is like the most a us is Leonard. When I was like that click. You lash twin we'll have lashed twin, and what's the liner that you like, and then the liner the I really keep going back to is MAC brush, stroke oak, Billy really love that one. And I think because I have like monolith is there's the inner corner of my eye actually fold in on its own. So again for a lot of people who if you're is don't do that. My big concern, though is if I get teary in there, or if my eye rubs on it self anything that's not like waterproof. If it doesn't really last it just like is gone within the first twenty minutes. So that one really lasted me. And again, I've tried so many other ones have been disappointed by other ones by keep kind of going co Kelly. I'm glad we ended on Mesko you've been awesome. Thank you so much for coming in sharing all your your story of your career and your favorite products. Thanks lady. Thanks michaud. Jenn. 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I'm not gonna lie. I'm one of them. I know this product oh this product. Okay. I don't. I think it's just enough. Just this call her Gloag as. I think it really gives you an all over glow that doesn't feel to disco. But it's definitely is a shimmer, you know, who else cosigns product Daniel Martin. And he's all about like a beautiful eliminated does skin that doesn't look shimmery. Just looks go. It looks real. But it's definitely a glow. And I think this with just like minimal like a little lip gloss. Miscarriage all you need for that kind of naturally gorgeous. Look. Okay. You know what else? Do you need to die? When you see what I have? Luma fi drops like this is like real. Yes. For real. Okay. Luma fi. Is this Baoshan? It's Abou Shalom are drop that doesn't manufacturer doesn't work like Vaso constrictor like the old drops where you'd get rebound redness and all that. I know I sound like an ad, but truly we're not sponsored truly. And so you know, what they're calling them at work. Mike coworker Taylor. I started using him. And I was like I wonder if anybody else has realize these are really good like you're I make up just looks better member showed you that before photo, you those it makes your eyes whiter in this way that like you'd put it the end of the day when you're just looking blah, forget the illuminating moisturizer. Honestly. This makes a big enough difference that I put in eyedrops, and I'm like, I look so much brighter. You know, what she calls them doll is slick. The big blinky, you know, so her and her girlfriends when they're going at it. And I where's Dalai's. Where's all is like the only bought one bottle for their roommates? And everybody's like sharing it like it says something is only ten bucks to. But like one drop in each I. And if you've contacted us ten minutes before I think, you put your context, just so, you know, but I don't know. I was never into eyedrops. They never really seemed to work. And then I was always worried about like, you know, and then I need them. And I'm hooked on them. I'm not me on this. But I totally noted if it's endorsement, yeah. So dalai's. There you go you'll be khloe under skin glow in your eyes. Oh, this is a good combo. He right. You're welcome. Everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We're growing because of people like you telling your friends family and everyone else and your network about the show. He sure to follow us all the social networks at Patmos garra. And if you want to drop us a line to tell us how great we are or complain or suggest something that we should talk about. It's info at fat mascara dot com. You can also give us a rating on itunes. If you like what you hear? How many stars five stars? Please.

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Ep. 343 - Fuck Like A Goddess with Alexandra Roxo

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Ep. 343 - Fuck Like A Goddess with Alexandra Roxo

"It takes courage to actually show up me president in your feelings, and in your body, and if you are going to open to me, no experiencing sexuality as a part of your spiritual path, or as a part of your divine nature, you have to be prepared for those moments because of the greater healing that we're all a part of. You're listening to the almost thirty podcast by Christa, Williams and Lindsay Simsek almost thirty started as a conversation about the transition from our twenties or thirties, but then we realized life is full of transitions, so be expanded our mission. We are an intuition, led wellness focused lifestyle podcast that promises to deliver authentic conversations, diverse points of view, an insights rooted in optimism, growth and intention, the almost thirty nation community is a group of purposeful dreamers who are smart passionate, and always seeking the full potential in every aspect of their lives at almost thirty were making magic together. We dream it, and then we do it. Thanks so much for tuning into the almost thirty podcast here we go. Hello, and welcome to almost thirty podcasts. So glad you're here so glad you're here. I don't know if you know we're on Youtube now, and it's actually a mind terrified. Be Watching yourself in the monitor exhausting and This is. So. Bush League, you remember college and everybody together. That's Bush League. It's very Bush League. And my here's Bangers Brown. Brown, I love it. Brown is in town. Justice Justin's my fiance. Do you like my hair? Like what are you waiting here like back then he's like. Oh, I think I like it I want better. You don't know enough about to know that you never tell the person that you like it better when it was different than it is now I think. Guys are so funny in that Lake. They don't. They don't make the connection between what the answer that you need to hear right now and their own truth and they like Kinda. Don't jump that gallon. Occasionally like you blonde and you're like what like I'm brown forever now and he's like. And the other day our our kittens were, so we have. We adopted two kittens from a stray cat alliance in Los Angeles and that night. They always come on me at three in the morning. They're always jumping on me there meowing. They're like and they do pussyfooting like 'cause. They're actually missing their mom because their mom abandoned them very little and I told just knows it gets so weird. They always come on me like they're always pussyfooting on me. They're just on me. He's like I think it's because I'm too bony. And I was like. Why A Sir. Quarantines going well On. No, honestly, we're actually very not well. Literally the other day I was in the. House driving and I was just thinking like. Oh, I feel so disconnected to him I feel just we're not sinking, and we're not connecting like deeply, and I was going on on like okay, and you like express my truth. And then I was thinking for fifteen minutes, and then I finally was like stopped at a parking like parking. Stop or a stop sign, and then I thought to myself. I'm like okay, so yeah I should probably pay his rent this month and has a he'll what it kind of like fucked up brain. Do you have where I was like? I'M GONNA. I'm upset and I need to speak my truth, and then I'm like I should probably pay for his rent. I was like. What that's like. That's women we WANNA. percent we want to self analyze yes, and make sure we're doing the work. Yes, I, mean that's generalizing, but generally that's how it goes. Yeah, I feel. I was like what are you talking about? You're going to pay for his rant. I guess he wasn't even in the Zeitgeist was like you to tell them how you feel. Like it's. An I'm curious to know if people out there. Listening are experiencing this where the the fact that we are in quarantine and were around. You know whether it's loved ones. Family friends partners siblings way more often than you're used to. Is it like? Is it actually not helping with communication was? It's like almost too much. Energy like together. Sometimes they feel that way because I. This is what it is I don't have enough time by myself to know how I actually feel pretty Chinese. Preach I don't know how you'll so then like we'll have like a deep conversation I'm like. Can I have like fifty because I actually am GonNa? I miss on the go fucking idiot right now and I need to like take a lap. Yeah. I watched the Glennon. Dole posted acute video of Abbey. Her wife and abby was saying she's like we've been together so much. We're side by side, but we're not connecting deeply and we're not. You know just a and women. No, it's so funny because women know exactly. You must be able to get it. Get it first and foremost, but also just as a woman you you know in your connected its very nuance thing that men understand a lot of men understand, but a lot of men don't know on the surface. What the nuances of feeling connected is so such feminine thing I saw. That knows again thus little truth. That's how I feel. that. You don't have time alone at all, yeah? Yeah Sean leaving like I think you're going to. Have a great time. My think you're going to enjoy it like no, we're sued in unlike actually honestly I'm GonNa. Enjoy a little bit. We're doing quiet hours at home and like words. No talking you know. Oh God! Yeah would love to know how you guys are doing on that realm. And I was GONNA say like with relationships to like there are those like. And seasons. Yeah, unlike cycles of just like yeah. And I think what's kind of heartbreaking is like when you have seasons of being super connected, and then you're not as connected for a little bit. What's happening? One is wrong, and of course there are things to like improve and. You know things to work on, but. I think that's why it's so hard because you'll have like a great season. Then you compare it. Really wait wasn't like that anymore. I remember doing that like so much in my relationships like when I was younger, it was more just like having sex anymore now honestly because. Like sex honestly excite. Sex Twelve. Times a day like what's wrong with. You must think I'm disgusted. And it was always like sold like stupid. Stupid it's, it's very interesting. At first we were really thriving, and now we're not throwing all. You're not alone. Yeah, and now it's just the fully sunk in of us being. It's like we're back in quarantine again. You know we're kind of it's like. Oh, my Gosh, yeah, and I could just underlying questioning of like. Where should we live where you'd like interesting? There's so many things where you're like. Oh, I feel unsettled. I know it's because there's a pandemic, but there's also other questions we ask about life in general and what we thought it was going to be an how it's ending up different, but hopefully the hope is that it's better, but yeah, it's just. It's a lot individually and collectively. Anyway I need Damberg. Side booked to hotel myself a week of August good talking. Yes, the best come chill. It's already come chill. Don't come job dome final, not cheap but. Mom needs to get out. I'm really excited today Alexander. Rock says on the POD book is out to day. Fuck like a goddess steel. Yourself claim your voice. Stand in your power. She's been working on this book for Time In. If, you followed us, you know that we've had Alexandrov before. We've done events with Alexandra. And she's just like our divine feminine through, and she's just such a beautiful storyteller as well I. Really you know if all her on Instagram, simply like you'll just be blown away by her writing and I learned so much from her as she like really vulnerably moves through her own life, highs and lows, so yes, he's awesome. It's it was cool to when we did that workshop with her. Workshop on the shop now, but just seeing the women like even if it was digital on zoom, Alexandra bringing them through the process of peeling back a lot of the condition that they had been through through noises through movement through meditation through music was so profound. Yup, or some such profound healing and I think that is an offering for us now in quarantine, you know this can be a really healing time so to really dig into topics like we talk about with Alexandra whether it's sexuality or femininity or the patriarchy or the conditioning that we've been through or sex, now can be a really good in Cuba Tori period for you to like really dig into things that you want to learn or apply to your life. You know for the next couple years. And it was it was really nice to just last thing on that workshop like where you can do these practices in like the privacy of your own home and I think some of them are a little bit uncomfortable when you do them at first whether it's breath, work or movement, or just like releasing of sounds and emotions, but I think that's also a gift of this time being home more and being able to just like do these practices on a more regular basis because we're not running a real and so. Yeah, we were in an interview today that we did earlier. I was sitting there and we were talking to her and I was listening very intently, but I was also thinking in the back of my head like Oh. This is my incubation year this year. I'm GonNa Learn everything and just to dig into everything, and then like clear it out for the years after, so it's like very homed. You know it's very hard right now for people to step into their power at this time it actually no, it's not. That's actually not true at all. some people are very much so stepping into their power, but for some it can be a little bit more challenging because of the ways of the world you know people are being very tested socialist like man I wanna like. Like I'm just going to accept this incubation. Yes, one thing that's the power of accepting it so that like it can actually take root cause I. think people want to just like rush through it yet. It's like you know other like challenging seasons. It's like no, no, no persona reason were experiencing it in the way that we're experiencing it and so yeah, what can we kind of? Plant the seeds now four at. Grow through on a sling. You gotTa Feel J.. L. It as you gotTA chair. Reading I am not I was not pleased with it about almost thirty. Although I thought it was good. Eventually, it was good I want all. Major Arcana. I want all the wheel. World I want all of like. All of the big boys don't want any of the like three of swords. I think that's it's speaking to this year. It's like snus in you know kind of. Janet back at focused, but yeah. I, think you guys are really going to enjoy this episode. You can learn more about Alexandra on her website. Alexandra rock so dot com again her new book. Fuck like a goddess is out now. You can order it off of her website. She's on Instagram at Alexandra rocks. Though before we dig in, we have a few things. Coming UP WITH ALMOST THIRTY ARE NEW PARADIGM WORKSHOP? Series continues We have Breen milan-san this Thursday. aliens her abduction stories, so if you're interested in anything outside of what maybe you're normally exposed to in the spirituality. Breeze going to really dig into aliens aliens that she channel She's GonNa do a channeling and then talk about the Times that. She's been abducted when I've been to her. What upgrades she got what light coach she got! This is going to be so fun and interesting, and just like I cannot wait. 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My original title was how to Helier Shit and fuck like a goddess, which is a little intense or actually so it's should. If you like a book proposal and you know one tells you like. Hey, just by the way should forecast who you're going to be in three years. Wow, you know like and really consider. Is this this the person I am three years from now? That being said like fuck like a goddess I feel. It's it works, and I. Really Love It. And also I love the sub header which he'll yourself reclaim your voice. Stand in your power I like I like the word fuck I think it's like a really juicy were. Saying Jesus Christ. John. FUCKING There's something bad. The confronting nature of cuss words. When you say muck like a goddess, it's so confronting and that's almost the point. And I feel like books that have that confronting nature often do well because. They generate the interest to allow the confrontation to happen. Noble ship. Yes, yeah, an I feeling thord fuck, it's like. Having sex sound, so let clinical making love sounds. Yeah exactly! Your boyfriend told you he wants to do. You didn't ICT. There's something about like owning the word faulk is feels like two things coming together to create a third thing. It feels like a merging of just like it has so much so many layers ray like fuck off like fuck me. Like on fat like there's just there I. IF feels like a bit of a war tax so I liked that about it that it's like. When I just title, it's like what if you like me, love to life? What if you came into communion? Like defined communion, ask define being within everything your pain, your pleasure, your wounds, your truth, like what if it all just meet up to you and open do instead of like trying to control lifer control the moment or So when I feel into that fuck like a goddess, it's just like the goddess is like nature and sunshine in volcanoes, and like the fucking pandemic moving through. Even though that I guess it wasn't naturally made but things moving through our bodies as you big ecosystem so. Yeah obviously the word fuck means many things to me. When I think of you, like I immediately I, word is goddess. But I do want because I think we throw that word around the lot CIS like a goddess. Your got us but I. Really like feel it in my house when I say about you I'm wondering like what that word means to you. Yeah, thanks for asking that. I do feel like the word goddess without the word. Fuck would be kind of cheesy I'm not GonNa Lie Lake You. My Book has just called like dance like a goddess. Your inner goddess. Because like that word has a stigma of like Catis circles, and like women in the sixties and seventies like wearing flowing white gowns. Because obviously not me, but not everyone knows that, but I do things that the word goddess is like the it's divinity. It's how the divine feminine moves through our our human bodies like how we are connected to something that came before, and will come after us, so that part of it makes it divine that it's not just in this human moment in the here and now, but thought it's it has some sort of like a mysterious creation that is part of something that's bigger than us that were connected to each other right as as women or as humans. And said like the goddess is the face of the feminine as she moves through US infinitely. In all of her textures and all of. Changing weather's an all of her archetypes and stories and narratives like that, it's all in us. It's all moving through us. And our human self is like our beautiful temporal self that will die. You know in turn to dust and like. But there is perhaps an essence of us, that is forever. you know, and not that for me to to call that forth. In the feminine is a part of what I think is really necessary on the planet today. As much as even that has. You no controversy in like kind of taboo around gender and like. Is still firmly believe that there are thousands of years of elements of the feminine that have been cut out of. Our modern world our world in general. To be reclaimed whether we're men, women, number binary doesn't matter like these. Like I have a womb and I, I can procreate and there are. Qualities that are associated with that nature. And their quality of the earth of like nurturing, and not killing each other. The Earth you know of protecting each other protecting Arjan protecting our land. Yes, and these are the things that have been kind of eradicated by the Patriarchy along with so much else Wichita about the book. A little history Ya talkable. I. Mean I talk about many things? Talk about lineage and I talk about. Sort of my background and my whiteness in my. Socioeconomic the where I'm coming from this book from, so there's like a lot of kind of. Getting into things and then. Talk about why are female bodies were treated in the way that they have been? Why are we got wrapped in this greater cultural narrative of like we're only lovable loser thin and were pretty, and we can would put so much time and energy into that, and why are sexuality gut hidden and told it was dirty are period thirty, and why as women got banned from the churches, and our our relationship to the earth got banned from Lake in our lives like all of that I. Do talk about all of that in the first part of the. I'm like why it's so important right now that we reclaim all that. Seem so obvious Yeah, but I think especially the stuff with like religion is so deeply entwined took me a while to be like wait. Why? Why is this this way for so many reasons, but can you talk a little bit about that? What is the history behind? Say for you know the thinness and the having your body look a certain way. When was that narrative like implanted in the feminine Well we'll him definitely not like a historian. It per se in this, but I have done quite a bit of research in terms of like what I know about Christianity is. That's the background that I grew up in and the the archetype and the story. That I liked to look at is like okay. How are women represented in the Bible and all circle back around to your question how that relates to the here and now, but you know the women represented in the Bible is like the Virgin Mary and A virgin actually has historical roots in not being a woman who's never had saks, but a woman who is sovereign onto her own in that kind of got misconstrued over time, or it's one interpretation. And then there's the other character Mary Magdalene was portrayed as a whore, which over time we read in many different books that that is a portrayal that was chosen again ray, so there's in in a sort of Christian religion. There's spoilers ation of women, you either virgin, or you either a good girl. Bad girl you know in. That's been sort of if you look at movies. Songs it's something that's been so deeply entrenched in the narratives that it's like most of us. Had to choose now. If you're a good girl, you're gonNA. Choose to be pretty and quiet and thin and small, and you WANNA be likable array like you want to be good so I think that it kind of all stems from that Ray. Magin, this like good girl, a virgin, Mary who the Madonna Whore Complex. Yeah ride talked about. And that that's like it's like inner cell tissue! As a woman like to hold both of those polls intense, you know to hold them both publicly as intense like. Could you be both of those things on any given day, and could you? Release your desire to be seen as good and you know it's a really. It's a big one. It's a hard one. It's so deeply and where like no, but I WANNA do not. WanNa be seen as good. I think that thinness works on different levels. There's like a just becoming smaller taking up less space in the world, which is like spit, very spiritual and energetic thing like as women if we take up less space in the world, and then there's more space for. Men are like he knew can have oppressive systems. If you look back flake at statues of Goddesses, or maybe even look back to Greece or whatever like the female bodies weren't they weren't manicured. They weren't small actually. They were like really low. Her and rich I'm not sure exactly the exact point that thinness started being of high value I do I definitely grew up in the nineties, so I saw, and I experienced growing up during the the Kate Moss time, which really heavily impacted me and I think that if we would have grown up, maybe even like in the fifties, we would have been accepted to have like a little bit more curves and a say the. The narrative around the female body has changed over time as trends and fashion and media dictated so i. mean I think that those of us who groping like the nineties two thousand, maybe just kinda short end of the stick that like Oh. Yeah I incur needed during the time we're like I'm supposed to really skinny in order to be lovable, or in order to be considered to the be standard, or whatever so I think that the dot pieces may be independent of religion. You don't think necessarily that the religion or spiritual peace dictated like oh, or thinness, but I think there's something about wanting to take up space. General a big juicy, luscious body takes up more space in the world it calls more attention. It speaks of sex speaks of earth. It speaks of ripeness. And I think that the Protestant bid just kind of like. We know that's like really tempting You know like a ripe for conned like luscious woman is so tempting leave. We need to cover her and quiet her. And can numb her down and dumb her which you don't see necessarily lake in maybe like some latin-american on or Catholic space, but I think. Protestant specifically, and I grew up in Proce Protestant reserves so in my book I'm like very clear like. I grew up in the Bible belt. And everybody's experienced very different. Depending on the culture, you grew up in so your your experience of your own body. Is Different depending on that you had a I. Know that from working with thousands of women I know. There are thousands probably millions of women who are still in a battle with her body. Statistics show this and talk about that me book to how much money and how many people are suffering still run their body as one thing yuks huge apparently. I'm not sure about you, but I need a little extra something something to enjoy my water and I was so happy when I found Zolt, so zolt is a CPA drink mix, and they these little individual packets called make see sticks. 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Dot, com use the Promo code almost thirty for thirty percent off plus free shipping on all orders were sixty. Just to stay on that. On, the religious vein, but speaking to divinity and finding divinity in. Your sexuality and in your body and I just think history religion etc, have just taught us to separate the two. And so. You know I'm sure. A lot of women are kind of reckoning with that where it's like oh I can be quote sexual. I can be like loving, my body, and desiring pleasure, and also believe in higher power, and also you know engaged either in religion or spirituality I. Love to Talk Abou kind of where that intersected for you. Well, it's funny. There is a healer that I went to resilient. He was like so you have this early mystical soul like really old saw, but you have this. Like started cracking up when I was like. What do you mean? A freak. I have a vote like A. Hungry like central body yet, and he was like well. Your soul incarnated into this body. Because that's the lessons you have to bridge the gap between this notion that you're. Like this, he knew kind of like pure divine being, and you're like have to also not let the animal in you takeover. You know so, and that's kind of been. My sort of identity is like going through phases where I'm like super purist, and then phases where I'm just like. Let the animal out, and now I'm going to face where they're pretty integrated. Though you know sometimes I can swing interaction or another, but that's like that's the spiritual path that I've chosen, and it's not necessarily one that comes with like a certain guidebook. I think. You could call it like you. Being connected to the earth, you could call it Lik Chamonix. You could call it hundred. You could call it witchy intellect. There're certain all of those are like buckets or containers that some of these concepts can landon, but for me, I. It's not something I read from a book. It's been. lived. Experiences of like Oh okay. I still holding shame around my sexuality. Why's my sexuality? Not Allowed. In my relationship to gone goddess divinity into living you know, and then just traveling that operas, and going Oh, that was a choice made by a bunch of dudes. Say That I should be ashamed of my desire, he knows. Is Really helped me kind of some of the eastern traditions and looking in general at what if all parts of me are divine? And how can I move through that now with that comes? There's there's a little wounding around some of these areas rate, so it's it's not the same thing is going. I'm going to be sexually empowered and just GonNa go fuck whoever I want and that's going to be my prayer Takata. Out would be kind of the opposite. It'd be like taking it to the other extreme, and we see that like in social media out in the world. It's a certain phase where you're like reclaiming your sexuality in it just like. You know everyone ninety one. Just like loud. This, look at me and I I mean. I can look back at a moments in my life like those immersing. That because I wasn't space of like. My sexuality is mine. When you kind of. Get past that phase of like I'm in empower myself. Then you can integrate that, and you can just allow for that to be a part of you. That is divine, and that is true, and that Israel without it being like you know something you have to broadcast or. Make to be your everything, but only you know that you know where you're out with an we I think we have been flow. There are times where I'm like Oh. My God. I'm experiencing like a big sexual shame coming up this weird. And then I have to sit and work through that for a few weeks, and I'm like When you're Y okay, this Merson triggered this thing in me. This old shame story or whatever I guess just on that path I just want to unpack that a little bit. configure out how they would do that themselves. So when that happened. So you notice so what happens? Is You notice someone triggering you? He has to go on a date with someone. In Lincoln you kissed them or make out with him like start to hook up with them, but you don't feel like your hearts being held or Or. You don't feel like you really gotta can have communal good intention right like it's like maybe a little tipsy or whatever these are very. Rudimentary examples but. Maybe you wake up the next morning and you're like Oh. Shit like. I machine of myself. Rain like I'm ashamed of myself like I. I just opened my body too quickly to someone without there, being like my heart, feeling held, and I just used sex to get connection, or while that's an old pattern winded up for start no other. I made it that maybe when I was thirteen when I really just want connection in love from this guy, but I gave him sacks in order to attempt to forget loft back, and it felt empty ray so. So whatever this the story is one particular person, you can trace it back so it's not necessarily about that moment it can be, and that's part of it, but like seeing how that Lens and lives in your system, and how that's maybe been something you've done for few years or ten years or however, and then you can begin to make a change around it. The the change takes awareness I sometimes. We repeat the shit that we do for a very long time. Yeah like. Oh Wow I'm doing that thing and I'm feeling this and I'm tired of feeling. Yeah, yeah, the shame compounds and then gets really murky. Almost like it, almost like creates a distance between you an' yourself. Of course, it's like you almost become undyed, unidentifiable ooh because I think in those like physical moments with someone. I can feel so much myself living over time. Especially my late teens early twenty s like it was so many of those moments where I gave myself to that person. Were they really weren't? Open holding me like really. Saami felt me and over time like it just kinda numbed me out a little bit, and then I was like very unclear about. So who am I in these situations in these relationships? How do I really feel this normal? It all became very Merck Berry Murky. Exactly and that's. You know that's just the process that we all have to go. Through is just like actually noticing only connected from my body and I'm disconnected for myself, and I'm feeling guilty or not. Most people spend most days disconnected from their body. Sitting in your car? In like commute into work at work at your desk on your phone. Most of what we do in this life is not connected to your body. Know well for most of us like living in Lico Western need. But you know you can't something that I work with like that was really important for my journey was getting out of my head, and into my body and really feeling. What it's like to live in the body and I think. Especially if you've had kind of A. Fraught relationship with your weight or your physical forum like to come in and feel your body. I didn't even know what that meant like. What does it mean to be in my body? Like of course in my body? I'm GonNa still cycle like working out all the time like I'm in my body, but. What I realized is like could I feel the depth of my heart? Or my pleasure and Took me a lot of time because it meant dropping into so many uncomfortable feelings. How many years of I've been avoiding feeling everything, and if you're deep feeler, which I think most of us actually are. Then it can be completely overwhelming in your body, and if you've experienced any TRAUMAS again in, you've never really dealt with them and can be completely overwhelming to come into the body because you start feeling fight flight freeze fear guilt, shame like just like all these things that don't exist if you sort of try to stay in the logical analytical mind like what I need to do and digital. But the the the the most glorious bliss and Ecstasy in love and pleasure exists in the body. And so if we avoid the pain in our bodies were avoiding the deep pleasure so. To me, that's just my practice s and helping women to have the courage to come back in come back home. Even, if it means like molly feel like real like kind of Yucky some days, and all the women that do my programs like we say like Oh my God and feeling sticky. I'm feeling crunchy like. The days where you wake up and like the feelings in your body are dislike. Yes, awful, yes, and just learning how to move through them. Anyway you know, find it hard to do with the partner at my you know it's. It's easier to like. He'll in that way and feeling that way when you're not with, someone could be as easier for some, but I find it harder for me. It's like. How do I? Explain this and you know what I mean like what do I do to explain this to you right now about them like laughing or Like even like there's a lot of stuff I've never told anyone. That's happened dramatically and it's like. Do we WANNA do this. You know I just didn't like. How am I going to talk about this? But something you. We've before you move on. You. Don't have to talk about it. Oh, yeah you. It's a feeling space. You Air into your love making you don't have to say what's known as long as that man. Is Prepared to hold you. And he has some depth to his own sense of self in practice, and you can bring all of what you're feeling into the lovemaking, and it can be ecstatic, and so deep in potent and powerful was not even about talking about it. and. I mean it just means that man's gotta be able to like Europe. Strong, vast robust human. You have a lot of power, and so if you really open that into room, he's gotta be able to handle it like you know like he standing in a soon Nami, and arrange Zora and going. Yeah, if it's me, you know this is very much in the David data work for. You. Guys have had John Lennon here, so I mean all of that feeling in your body is actually fuel for the intimacy and for the love. It just takes a little bit of practicing how to do that, so it's not like people get kind of bowled over by. And even if they do you. Are. The the the bedroom that that we could be having with our partners that or people that we start dating that. would. Open both people up when when they do I I do think at least in my experience. The conversations out of the bedroom really helped me to be turned on like be so connected like. Depth for sure Yep. So are there ways to do that? Yeah, and the most interesting conversation is the embodied one is not the word one. It's you you're angry. It's you walking into the kitchen and like. The anger in your body the. Or if you're just like super, turned on expressing it in Bruce Sound through the way you move all of that, that's the most interesting conversation. In my opinion. It's not sitting down and being a processing to me. On but sometimes we have really find, but but it creating yourself as an invitation. Right so like if you're pest leading, not move three you. There's a difference between spewing out onto your partner. And letting it move through you as an opening so that they can come in in their their arms around you, and then they get to feel like powerful. Man and woman human. Or you know like that that you're just like. So open that they can just come in and like penetrate you with their lovemaking dot to me is that's where the magic happens, but you off to be courageous totally out of your head in that moment into looked like a frigging dummy because. I. I'm literally going. On. You're like say you're like really mad about something and if you like. Instead, of going back, really mad about this on our own. Home. How he gets to play with you there me like. You're mad. Humanity mean you're like no matter the world like. He gets an NGO and go. Yeah, matter you show me, eat or whatever is, there's such opportunity there versus. I'm really mad about the news in the current politics that are happening today, but I don't even say man I'm like Oh. You're in your head. Polity of like. US Your Voice when you know, someone is in their head and when? He. CTS wanting to risk for. Sure and for magic of like fucking and intimacy, like you have to be willing to look and to make mistakes and. I I really enjoy those, but that's also the vulnerability. Last, when whenever fact when you're doing something new or different, or you want to explore something new, you always have that moment of vulnerability. This could be dumb. Risky, this could not go the way I it. You right now, I don't know. May. Say. You're likely to do this is in tying that to your heart is so important and your feelings and like. That's where the deep intimacy can happen with like two people when we're in our bodies together as a moment. Yeah, and when you take that risk and it's like received it the best. The best feeling you know like. And he has the opportunity to rise in. Meet you you know and if he can't for the first few times, it's okay, because then he's GonNa go. Oh, Shit I. Better Start Lake may be doing some breath, work or meditating or doing something to increase my capacity of my nervous system Krista, because she's a powerful woman, so I better get big so that yeah, you know what I mean I've been thinking a lot about doing where Kundu leany I feel like I was thinking Marla was talking about. And I'm like for the nervous, system. Specific, only independence, such a good nervous system activity house thinking about that I'm like I need to bring that back into my practice. Yeah, and he could do to you. do it together. Yeah, it's interesting. He Justin specifically. He! He does have a hard time being in his body. You'll notice it sometimes. I'm like Oh my gosh or little brain like all happening here. Like it's all happening here. You know and I think. He has hard time getting in his body to because. I don't know many men that are I I don't know. Many embodied men I. Know and it's it's John Online Lynn maybe yeah Y-. Devoted his. And, it's yeah, it is new I mean that's why we're. Why like I teach it bad and you know he teaches baton and many people are like. Hey, like the the fun. Stuff's happening in China for sure at our at our workshop that we did with you. Part of that was breath work. Has Been Really transformative for me and you know even during this interview I just notice you really consciously taking breaths and I think we hold our breasts breath so muggy. And I'm just curious both the science behind it and. The. kind of like the connection because when I. When I do breath work, it's like rocket to everything I'm connected to to divinity. There's just like this clear line has so. I'd love I'd love to talk more about Brexit. A lot of people are curious, but nervous. Yeah. Well so I'll tell you a little story, which is so when I went to nyu is where I studied primarily like art and embodiment and vocal training, and it's kind of like the basis for what I do now. Might. Your was like you're an inward breather, so you have because you've been holding your Bali in your whole life. You learn how to breath in the inside without moving your belly. Can keep a flat stomach. So that was like my little girl is aim to AG. Yeah, yeah, it was like what. My fear is like that's not gonNA work. You know like you have to train yourself for that. If you're going to be an artist or an actor behalf to be able to create space in your body. So one of my main healings has been allowing my belly to be soft and allowing my belly to be full of wrath. And I have said in classes I teach that that is a radical act as a woman to walk around with a soft Bali. Hanging out because when we breathe into our belly. That actually looks pregnant with regardless of our size. and to walk through the world with a soft belly means that there's oxygen flowing there. It means that the Energy Center. There is soft and open available one of my great teachers. She said once she said like what someone punches you in the Bollywood you. Do you clench to prevent feeling? And so if you think about it for always clenched, were in the space of preventing feeling for always tight in our belly, and our ads, and our lower body think about the years of residual Anshan, and then we try to open for an orgasm like real quick, it's like well. No I've been holding this area of my body. Types and then you add in like the part around our menstrual cycle, and like that that we've held that kind of as like quietly. Don't be smelly or like. Take advil, don't you know? Don't be crampy like so. To take to talk back to the breath there is this really powerful unwinding that happens in breathing into your belly and letting your belly be soft for me as a woman I think that we have a very unique intuitive. Portal as a response that happens in our womb in our cervix in the lower part of our body that we've been cut off from for so long for an in-depth when we tense and we don't breath there, we literally or cutting ourselves off from our source yup. And so whether it's for orgasmic pleasure, or for intuitive knowing or for just feeling wife more the breathing into the lower body in the belly for women is really really key, and then on those sort of like more scientific level. By breathing consistently with that kind of deep openness, you stop yourself from living in like a fight, fight or fleas freeze. Flight freeze response in your nervous system, which so like survival mode, which is so many humans are living, and so, but there rbis humans that live in really difficult living conditions like. Leaving conditions that we would. In, our Western world would be like with the PUP. There are people that live not an fight flight or freeze, nod and survival mode that are experiencing joy. Pleasure and love. Them that don't have nearly as much as we have. Of course, so it's not even like okay like this is about you know. That I. I've like transcended. Pass this thing. No anybody can live in an open body in an embodied like. Feeling State of pleasure and live and love you know. And I love seeing cultures and people that despite trauma, despite heart, conditions are dancing and singing, and are not living in this hyper survival tension mode. I think we have a lot to learn from them, you know. Sue the breath. Is You know it's the? It's the beginning to the bridge it's it's like that thing that connects us to something bigger. It's the last thing before we leave this planet the first thing when we arrive. In is this link to the divine in that way you know. So the practice that I lead women and I call an embodiment practice because I used breath, sound and movement to gather as like an activation tool. But. There's so many different types of breath work were just breath is kind of like the basis, and that's the most important thing to get things going and to drop us out of our head, and into our hard usually or into the body, whatever however to categorize it, and that's usually like where it does feel like you just took like md may or like some sort of a drug, and you have to let go and have to go through this period of anxiety where your body's going. Don't do this. Don't do this story. So I have so much like combat when I'm leading a group of women in not space 'cause I know that moment where you're like, I want to let go. And I see people, and they start crying and shaking and moaning and like, but then they like afterwards are so gorgeous. There is our lake shooting. Rainbows Stars out at me and I'm just like Oh my God. Your is what you did like. You covered your eyes like are not you covered them? Like as in you record. What you're is like the changing of your. Is Jim Remember that last year? Were you took a the end of your eyes after some helium that your? Money by you love looking at because I definitely is being the win the windows to the soul. Galaxies. And so like if that connects to some like God, Tech Star I like seeing that even last week I was like feeling she about things going on in the world may privilege and. My friend said Wow, I saw you not instagram life. You look bad. You look like there's a lot of shame like a lot of pain. And it was like. Yeah, there's a lot of pain there and I'm glad I was able to show up. Here I and I'm in pain because of everything that's happening in the world. and then to he knew like Kobe in nature this past weekend, and then to be like Oh my God. Look at me. I'm a new personality because I've cleaned some of the off, my soul mirror. Yes I mean. You're here in La just on that like we. Do go into nature regularly, or do you kind of hit a threshold because I've been thinking a lot about about like kind of. The residue that is city leaves on you. Until till five G. Towers are up. Yeah, I know I know man I'm getting all. that. Jazz Gone Yada when we were on live the other day she goes. Let me, just say. I'm not predicting anything, but just know that all my astrologer friends are no longer living in big cities. Yeah, I was like yeah. I think there's going to continue to be mass exodus I'm Jay like. I. Don't know exactly what's going to happen, but it's going to happen for me. I go to nature as much as I can. As much as my schedule permits, but I find that like walking barefoot eating mushrooms, hugging trees, being naked peeing on the earth. On the. Seeing the ocean is one of my favorite things. For the environment, but I really. There's something about well now. But I think that's something that we've laws. In general is like the depth of like how how wonderful it is to be in connection with nature and yeah, that's where I feel the most me and the most free, but I love are in urban environments, but I think I might have done it. I did twelve years in new. York two years and Seattle one year in Portland five years year I'm like right honey. Under a lack. It's interesting with talking about thinking about sexuality and sex, and then also religion to and in love one. They talk a lot about how y'all way was one. They called him your way at the time brought sex checks rally to humans, and with even in religion. When religion was brought through many teachers and leaders, they were both distorted to be in religions, case, the what was pure and good, and divine was distorted to be something that was making people separate that had the hierarchy that greeted things like the ten commandments thou shalt which separates us. US from ourselves and separates us from the divine, and then within sexuality to was used, it was given to your way to teach the people as a tool of lake, radical transformation spiritual growth, but then it was distorted in a way where now it has like good darkness at points, attached to it or like it can be distorted in a way in which it's used for power. It's used for separation. It's used for energy vampire. There's just a long of the distortion that's used within it, but in the law one. They talk a lot about that. Yeah haven't read that book, but yeah, there's a shadow on a lights idea really in terms of like being in this dualistic world. And it's are the practice. It's like our martial arts training to be able to discern in those moments, and to transform them and their veal really deeply like ooh, that feels service. Nuts writes my body ray like engaging in dots. Practice that movie or person, or whatever it is, that is dealing with that. Can Blake texture around sexuality? Mc to me that will feel like e BG's in my s. you know it's just like ooh. Honestly I sometimes it's like a drug, too, so like there's definitely like I i. I've definitely explored darker sides of sexuality. And it's. There's a space where we can explore, but we have to be careful. We don't get stuck. Their newly have to bring consciousness to that space. Right, so it's like. It's not for everybody that half I mean I think I talk about some of that. My Book also just like different phases of my life, where if explored certain things and sometimes I, have gotten burned, and a half gotten hurt by being open to exploring or two walking through the dark hallway, around certain sexual things and getting stock there for a minute and going Oh. My God I. Don't Know How to get out of here. They. Speaking is dot path for everyone know. is the path of being afraid of it like better. No, you know, so. It's like when you say things. What do you mean practices or rituals or well? Let's. SAY IT would. Be. Okay. Yeah honestly how many people? Just like you could say, let's look at like bedia something for once like like. If you're like okay. I want to explore parts of my sexual shadow or my sexual like possibilities you know you could go into a a situation with Bedia Sam, and you could really be totally humiliated and sacrifice yourself and kind of be lured by that shot sleigh, but without consciousness, president or love, present or intention president rates so. It's a sticky places like handling fire. We have to be like we have to be knowledgeable. Aware enough otherwise. We're GONNA get burned, you know, but sometimes we we become knowledgeable by getting burned and everyone's path is different in the way, so like you know for somebody that might be going to a sex party for the first time or you know it might be telling their boyfriend like this is my desire and I wanNA. Enact this fantasy with you. You and there could be in that like darkness comes up like shame. Come up guilt. Come up your come up and it's a matter of like if there's consciousness president like if you're drunk, and if you're in your body in your body, then you can breathe through that stuff, and you can have a good cry if it comes up, but if you're not in your body, you're not present and you're creating trauma for yourself, so you know the? The sex energy is like really. There's a reason that there's so much you know fear and stigma and everything, because it's dealing with the most powerful energy on the planet. See out doesn't mean we just totally smashed it down and shut it down. No doesn't mean we just like open it up at any given point. No, it's like we have to be really intentional, and really like you know loving and careful and really elevate the energy and then know that. That there will come. They will come. Shane will come Dick Wilson here because we're not at the level of consciousness as a society where that stuff's not gonNA show up, so it's more of like well. What do I do when it shows up? You know like me to my lover. I want to enact this fantasy with you, and then I ended up feeling so like gross and guilty about it. Well I could pretend like Oh. That was fun as Quickly Cryan his arms and go. Wow, that triggered this moment where I thought where I felt like such a slot in so disgusting and let him hold me why cry and have an opportunity for healing race so? You know it takes? It takes courage just like we talked about before it takes courage to actually show up and be present in your feelings, and in your body, if you are going to open to me, no experiencing sexuality as a part of your spiritual path, or as part of your divine nature, then you have to be prepared for those moments because of the greater healing. That were all a part of. So the healing is GonNa come forth in you at some point, not even personal. It's like for our mothers and grandmothers for all of everyone and it's like not being ashamed of the angering oats, so on cool that like it just how to total meltdown around that you know just like going like no, that's just a part of and it's actually artful and the healing that's happening within me is actually so powerful for me for my partner for like the children we may have like all of it and I'm not going to shy away from that. As many Boji listeners know Kristen I went off birth control years ago. It was the right decision for us, but we still need to keep track of our cycles, and we found that recycles and have been huge fans and users ever since natural cycles is the first, and only FDA cleared birth control APP. It's a great opportunity from women looking for a natural and effective alternative to hormonal birth control. I know a lot of you out. There have been asking US questions about going off birth control. So, this is how it works. 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Dot, com forward slash almost thirty, and you'll get an additional ten percents off from the normal package price with coupon code almost thirty at checkout. You got that, so that's MAG. BREAKTHROUGH DOT com slash almost thirty, and then use the code almost thirty at checkout, and you can get additional ten percents off normal package price. My last question is around archetypes I've been thinking a lot about our friend. Milana snow ended the session with her. You're talking about archetypes and I love to just explore lake. Why it's so important that we lean into different archetypes, and what's what purpose they can serve as we get to know ourselves because I think there is so much shame around. archetypes that we hold some archetypes that could feel so good in nursing. Soul, but maybe societies like. You know I just I. Love to love to talk about that. Well. The we look at it is like having a keyboard, and you want to not display one note on the keyboard. Right like so say in the journey of your whole lifetime like. Today just bang away. This one little key, or did I actually like tip toe across this whole keyboard and did I. Actually play and go here. What is it sound like at a and a see and hear? What is this deep tone sound like and so to me? It's like a deep pleasure as a woman to be able to have this freedom to to embody all these different archetypes. and then to to let them move through me moment to moment because it's not like. Oh, no, maybe there's a year where I'm like inviting a little bit more wild woman, and then another year, where I'm embodying a little bit more like priestess, like whatever, but the the the the yummy part is when there's like a symphony of all of them coming together, and it's moment to moment, and you don't choose it from your head. You breathe in here belly. And that moment where you like walking near kitchen in your lover's, they're like the thing is presenting itself through you, because of like the moments that is when it's artful in gorgeous, but sometimes we need to pull these archetypes into our daily practice, so we can get comfortable with them race, so it's like it the things that scare you the most I would say, bring into your daily practice if it's like the witch or the secret prostitute or the Hashtag or the Croon or whatever the thing is that you're like e, don't WanNa be that. would. Pull it in my practice and write about it and feel it like I. You know I! Think I told you. Lindsey and serum live that I did that with the bitch archetype. During this quarantine like I don't know why was feeling Super Bitchy one week. I was like wow, that's touch mental bitch this week and I was like okay. Just let's embrace it like. Let's go deeper into it and just say las sometimes I'm judgmental patch, and like she lives sent me, and she protects me when I need to be conducted at times, and then sometimes she's just like cold and Poe fish, you know. And so that was just like a gorgeous practice to have with myself and I allowed that to come forth out of the moment, because I noticed I was judging someone so. I think that you know we can either try to play the same note on the keyboard and do so well. That just becomes like so common in place, and we're just like Oh, I'm Alexandra and I'm always going to be sort of funny quirky. Or we can go like I. Want to see what it's like to walk into a room as like the most fucking Regal Queen. Or ask like an enchanted. You know or like as like a trickster and You know I love Carl. Jung's work in terms of archetypes is not necessarily a run, feminine archetypes, but archetypes in general, but I I think with feminine, or it's like looking to the weather, looking goddesses, looking to deities, looking to even writers or musicians or actors like I use all of that as my material, make like pender sports and I'm like I'm to explore this archetype. Pinterest. Ones, there's so many. And that's where it comes into embodiment rate, so fear on the ground on all fours like. I'm leading you in a practice where you're like breathing and sounding and I. Ask you to call for your like fucking like I'm GonNa, kill you, Lioness Ito, like then that. Is that something that then you could call forth in in real life in one gaze? You don't then growls when in the grocery store. I mean you could, but you just look at them with that one gaze. 'cause you've been practicing the lions. You know how to protect yourself without one little. At them, you know. Yeah I just got the. And this is like I mean. This goes back to my acting training. Right video also is in a lot of that polarity. Work that we've been talking about that. That's important to me as well and also in like the sort of Feminine Goddess. Spirituality traditions. Also in psychotherapy, so this sued. All of this lives in us as humans in narratives and fairy tales and stories, just part of we. We are so fun I. Think it's like magic you know. What I loved about acting, it was like bringing out parts of myself that I didn't really get to. Be necessarily in the every day. And even I was talking to my boyfriend. He's like well. You're like sometimes I. Don't know if you're acting and I was like. It's all me, but. Like there's all different. Lose you hard which I think can. That's why there's like a little shame round because people like. Because they have access that in themselves yet. Oh, I just think we have the ability. If we access these different archetypes liberate each other exactly and like I was. Doing a lot of very wild woman posts on instagram like maybe two years ago, not liberal I felt so many women liberated by that Lake, and it's funny because I feel I integrated that part of myself I don't need to show her off as much anymore, but like I'm like man, but women love. fucking power. Was Living. Living for your? In ceremony, are you still doing ceremony like, have you? I feel like I'm good for a while. Yeah, I like, you did a long bed. Yeah I. There was some stuff around specifically my relationship to my dad that I really miss had to sit with for quite a few years, but you talk about my book. A long hard, my healing journey, and in the past few years I was like I'm just really wanting to move through this and so I kind of went. Would just kept going into it and I did like my father and I totally may peace. He didn't even have to he he just. Looked at me one day and was like you have changed and the love coming from you is just totally different than I've ever experienced so. You know I used to hate him at time so. The Work I. Myself Transformed Hate Lick Hatred into unconditional love. And forgiveness and it took a lot of work I, am it, but then now we have a great relationship and I was considering me not having him in my in my life anymore because I just didn't think it was possible. To have a healthy relationship with him so. That's like the coolest miracle that's ever happened in my whole existence of this life is the fact that like my father, and I turned so much pain and hatred into actual love, and like no Kospi every day and faced on. I'm like. Yours for all the.

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#201 Emma Dabiri: Don't Touch My Hair

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#201 Emma Dabiri: Don't Touch My Hair

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So check it out better, help dot com Ford slash ama- g. Hello. And welcome back to another episode of control up delete, my guest today is Emma debris. She is a presente social historian and writer she is being listed as the BBC's broadcasting stars of the future. And she was recently listed as one of the observers, two thousand nineteen rising stars today. We are discussing her debut book called, don't touch my hair published by penguin. It's a book about why black hair matters stylus magazine recently said that it was pulled together with meticulous research, and don't touch my head is an unmissable read by a writer who sets become a household. Name 'em is a columnist as well for the Dublin inquirer and is one of the BBC's expert voices. She does a lot of TV presenting and radio and you probably watched one of documentaries, and if that's not enough. She is also a teaching fellow in the Africa. -partment of so ass. So she is one clever an interesting woman, and I'm so excited. I got to go around her house and chat to her about her new book, and I really enjoyed this episode. We went on a few different tangents but, but everything was so, so interesting. So I hope you enjoy this episode and please don't forget to leave me a rating, or a review on, I jeans it really, really helps more people. Discover this podcast. They thank you. And here it is. This books really needed. And in terms of the first chapter, it's only hair. It's incredible kind of from the very first shop to you get the idea. And the reality is all of the, the hapless, such a massive role. So I make the argument basically that when it comes to this was something that came through in the research is doing for my so when it comes to black nests specifically, rather than just kind of race more generally the features that identify somebody as black, and that mean that they will be racialist as a black person are a lot more than just skin color. Because if you think about it, most of the world's population are people of color, most of the world population are have Brown skin of varying hues, but most of those people are not racial, as black, so the people who are racial is his black also have afra- textured hair. So I wanted to kind of. Expand on the significance of hair texture because you hear a lot more about complexion and skin color, but Harry is also operating really powerfully. There's just less awareness and discussion of the ways that Harris positioning people and that people are being positioned by there. It was so interesting as well what you were saying about how has kind of talking about how the parallels in the and the symbolism between unruly, how unmanageable herring that horrible stereotype of being too outspoken, or unmanageable or like that blew my mind. You know what actually when I first made that realization I was like, wow, as well as I've been thinking about it for a walnut initially. I was like this is actually crazy. I think I thinking about it because I was when I first started thinking about it. Maybe when I, I kind of really started writing researching about half, and I was just like gosh, all of the words. To describe my hair texture or jar of like there. No, there are no complementary. There are no words that actually kind of talk about the positive characteristics of my hair all of the descriptive. The commonly descriptive terms used to describe my hair texture are kind, of course, wild, and then maybe some slightly better, but they're still to do with control and being out of control, and I thought thinking more. But yeah, kind of like unruly and defined, and I was, and he course, again, and I was just thinking that I'm the words that were at one stage, used to describe black, people haven't actually disappeared. They've just shifted to head height. They're now the times that we use to describe black people's hair say that really like stunned me. Yeah. And this idea of women should be kept small, and the way in the way that you were talking about half an how it's so beautiful for it to take up loads of Spaeth. But actually, what society wants you to do is make it small again yet to, to diminish it unto shrinkers, and that was my main main aim and objective when I was when I was younger for most of my life, actually, I was like mortally. Mortified by my hair and all I wanted was for it to, like for it to go down. And I even remember like to the hairdresser. Like when I'd have it relaxed our chemically straightened, and they'd be like, oh, you're, you're particularly thick and thick meaning it's more afro, and even bigger. So we should like thin out. So you actually get my hair thin. You know, everyone wants to have as much volume and full hair as possible. But this idea that, like black women actually thinning their hair just to, to diminish it and just make it make it last make it take a blessed bait. And also have there's also been in the book where I speak about different kind of beauty standards as well. And I'm talking about like growing up in Arlon where the emphasis was being on was on being like extremely thin. This is like in the nineties as well that the look was just like very, very skinny Kate moss era, but with boobs any but with booze. Yeah. Difficult to achieve eventually unachievable for more than maybe like two percents of the population unless you get some help. So that was very much the standard to, to aspire to, and I would starve myself, but my body is just. My body's just not like not that shape like I have like a like a round, boom. I have full five inherited happily inherited from my Nigerian ancestry. But when I was a teenager like I didn't even really know the often like black women had a different shape. I just I was just like what's wrong with me? Like why? All my friends have like a gap in their thought is and minor. And I, I definitely didn't. That would have made me feel much better. All my friends, all of them. But so many of them, and certainly the ones that were considered the beautiful ones had the GOP the elusive GOP wine or why like rubbing against each other. And now I know that to have to be that size after that shape to support my bum. But I was looking at him. Yes. When I was writing the book, I was thinking about, like, where that beauty sounded emerges from. And I think it's Naomi wolf that I quote, and she talks about, like a society that kind of demands women to be thin is not really about or and to take a blessed space is not really about that as quickly. It's more about like control and how if a how starved population or half starved half population are more kind of malleable. Let's thinking about how that existed in contrast to some of the beauty standards that you see in kind of, like some of the African cultures that I look at specifically the Uraba, which is like my paternal ancestry. And as looking at how a should who's the one of the kind of most well known Uraba got S's the Risha his. Considered like extremely extraordinarily beautiful. I was looking at some of the praise poetry, extolling her extolling, her features and her beauty. And one of them is like a corpulent woman, a woman, who's basically count fit your arms, enter waste. And this is being kind of celebrated as the epitome of beauty. I was like, wow. That's in such kind of stark. Contrast to abuse outta that demands that you are, are less, and you take like less space, unless room say. Wow. Yes, it that is, is so interesting to do it the space and the control because I was thinking the other day about the film Hidden Figures, and when Catherine she's like running from one to the other, but she's inhales and it's like even wearing heels is like taking control from people because you'll making them Nobile to. Walk pro-police and listen. I'm so glad you brought that up. Look at my I if you compare it to. Oh, god. Yes. That by that, starting a if you can ever you can do to like preempted getting to that level. Do I have it on both sides? And it's not from shoes. That is, so I think somebody else could wear high heels in might not develop to that level. So I think it's probably something hereditary as well even my family has it, but yeah, so I spent probably the entirety of my later, teens up until my mid twenties wearing like insane stilettos, and that definitely came from me subscribing to a particular style of femininity that I thought I had a way of presenting the I fell under pressure to present in and I was really paranoid about having short legs. But my legs not being like long and thin enough so beware. These like towering stilettos, and that's that's the havoc. They read support my truck. He's just trying to ruin. Forever complete the I really I do think those I re I see a big difference between like today and how it was when I was in my teens and twenties. Like I think there have been a lot. I think there have been a lot of improvements. Yeah. I think for me, I don't know. Maybe some of the confidence is comes and self-assured Nisus comes from being older, but I also do think there have been quite big societal changes, and I think they're more. Women can see more options in for ways of being rather than just kind of like having to conform to quite limited choices. Yeah. Do you think things are moving false store? Do you think it's like the allusion of pace because of the internet, will it feels like a something, even I have tweeted five years ago. I'm a bit like ooh. Then if I think that anymore filling nothing major offensive or anything. It's just like little things where I'm like, is that just? Growing or is that, like society actually shifting? I do think there's more idea think there's more scope. To not just look, one particular way like things like I don't like I don't shave my armpits. And that's still I'm amazed by how that still raises eyebrows, and comments. But God when I was like when I was younger too, I wouldn't have done it. But to do that would have been oh, just met with, like a level of revulsion, and I don't know. I think my friends would have been to even seen with me like Jimmy's, I think like in, in certain, I think, in certain ways, things have improved, but they're quite minimal. And maybe they're kind of in certain pockets of people, and it might not be something that is happening, like cross society kind of more generally as or as a whole, and I do think a lot about how younger women must feel and girls must feel under pressure because of the kind of unrealistic. So for me I'm saying. This diverse kind of representations of beauty. And there are an diverse representations of ways of being. But at the same time, there is a really homogenized, beauty standard as well that I would imagine exerts, a lot of pressure and influence on younger women. And I do think like a lot of social media, particularly the more visually oriented apps. Must like put a men's pressure pressure on young women. Yeah. I mean, even I feel even I feel it a little bit. I'm kind of. I'm kind of too old, and I've kind of deconstructed these things too much to really be the really be somebody that's like hugely influenced by that. But I can imagine when I was younger would have been pretty damaging for me. Yeah. God, it's true. I think if I was thirteen now, I would be saying these amazing role models that have come out of more of a diverse representation of light bulb image and all that stuff? But then at the same time, it's like there's this look at the moment isn't there of let the Kim Kardashian face and bomb, and everything. And it's like with that with that affect me. Yeah. I'm glad I'm older obsolete. Just care is absolutely absolutely. Yeah. There is not really homogenized. I mean came crashing doesn't even look like this. Like I mean, she does look like that. But, like nobody very few people not look like that. I love what you talk about in the book about time and the labor of doing your hair because I'm. Into that idea of, like women shouldn't spend too much time thinking about this stuff, but it's like, but you kind of had no choice. You felt like to fit in. You have to spend a lot of time on your appearance, and that again is, is taking away power, isn't it? Because if you give a women lots of things to do. You'll basically taking away their, the availability of them doing other things at that time. Yeah. Opposites. Am I remember being like so intensely preoccupied and paranoid by my appearance that, you know, even if I wasn't leaving the house, I would probably spend like two hours doing my makeup, just because I didn't really bash look at myself without it, and just on the off chance that somebody came by or had to leave so the amount of I mean, I, I love makeup and I'm not like kind of by any means like diminishing, the art history. But two or three hours on your makeup like every day, when this other stuff to do is. Three hours is that probably didn't happen. Been a long a long time make up time. I didn't have. Yeah. Yeah, if it's a hot hand it 'cause it's like if you wanna spend two hours on your makeup, I'm not shaming would never shame. Anyone about the same time? Is that some sort of way of making women kind of less powerful because it's like just stare at him and do that. Yeah, I the untimely like time something I thought about a lot in the book as well. I started to think about the nature of doing black hair and how it does actually require more. So in my hair is like even blow dried straight once that's been done. It doesn't kind of require as much time as it does when my hair is like kind of in. It's not troll texture. I'm very consciously avoiding using the word time consuming because this is something I talk about in the. Book the idea that one of the kind of justifications for black women straightening, there is too time, consuming to leave it in its to leave it in its natural state, and I talk about what I research, kind of hairstyles that women unman actually, because this is also something, a culture that man were involved in his. Well, men was often spend hours on their in Africa. I was just like, oh, why, why is it time consuming when from Alania it wouldn't have been viewed that way? And I was like, oh, because it doesn't fit neatly into the prescribed meant of time that you're allowed to kind of do personal care personal grooming, kind of within a carpet, list's system. But I was like black hair grows. The way it grows. For reason the time that's required to do it is the time. It's required to do. It is not necessarily. Time consuming. That's just it's Nieve. And if you live in a society where it's needs be met. You have to think about who designs that society, I wasn't designed with your best interests, a central because any culture society develops according to the needs of the people in that society. So you have to think about you being expected to kind of conform to rules that were never supposed to read include you over certain to any never concerned by you in the first place. 'cause basically saying like the norm. I'm Dan Evatt Tacoma's is to be like, oh, I don't with that and leave the house. Whereas that's just not the same for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that is sort of reflected in. Unfortunately, the amount of products black cat doesn't seem to be. We don't seem to be there yet in terms of like walking into a mainstream outlet and bam to get what you need. Yeah. That's, that's still true. It it's, it's certainly improved. A little bit in recent years. If you go into like a really big. Pharmacy. If you go into most of the chains, you still won't find block products. If you go into one of their massive stores, you'll find a limited range, but still often, not the thing you're looking for so, yeah, you have to go to a specialist shop in a particular area and it's often just really inconvenient. If you don't live in one of those areas, coast, one of those areas or if you're traveling, if you're in airport or train station or something, and you're like I travel like a lot for work, an often being an airport or train station. And I just need to buy something for my hair, and it's not possible. It's possible for everybody else's there. It is. Yeah. Frustrating to say to say the least. It's interesting like the examples you use of the people that you would see on TV, and they would have certain types of hair, and I suppose that happens a lot when you're watching TV, and you're like, oh, I don't know that how she managed to like that. Yeah. So when I was growing up, there were very, very few on, once I moved back to Arlon, which is where I was born, but then we spent the first we spent four years in Atlanta, to, like a very black city, the remove to Ireland and suddenly, I was like felt like the only about press in the country often, but who was I gonna say, yes, so my hair was very different to the have anybody around me in real life. And then there wasn't on top of that, there wasn't much representation, but the few women that I remember when I was like, maybe eight or nine a love Nina cherry like so much, and I s she's mixed race and was somebody. That, like he knows the same kind of color as me, but her hair was, like so different to mind, she had quote unquote, good hair or more typically mixed race hair. Whereas my hair has very much favored, the Nigerian side of my ancestry, is like very tightly coiled. So I was like this woman looks like me, but she kind of has, like, quote unquote, normal hair. Like, why is what like why is that that made me feel kind of even more in adequate about my own have, and if years after that game, I took about like the fresh prince and seeing Ashley ranks and Hillary banks. But now as I'm older realizing that they're also even the in the program, they play their parents are both black. They play the children of black parents in real life. They're both mixed and for them. Unlike me, they're mixed nece has resulted in quote, unquote. Good hair. Hillary's got kind of currently ham, or Lisa curly hair, and Ashley has had that kind of very much resembles or resembles the fact that her father is Indian so she has like long dry law almost straight hair. So, again, I was just like put even like the black people, I'm seeing seem to have quote unquote normal. What's wrong with me? So you're just orienting. So the only black women that you saw on TV with their natural hair were those that had hair that already conformed to European ideals of what was beautiful or what was attractive, or what was normal is crazy. You know what in the book this idea of good and bad? And just and just like how you've unpicked that so mazing in the book and by the end of it. I was just like everyone needs to read this book, because the people listening, he might not know you talk about color ISM in the. Book and I wondered if you could talk a little bit about that for people that might not know that me. Yeah. I'm what people are often kind of unaware of, of, of color ISM. Whereas in black communities, it's to varying degrees in different geographic, locations because certainly more pronounced in some black cultures and isn't others, but it exists to varying degrees in all black cultures. I've been in it's the hierarchical ranking of black people. But according to the shade of their skin. So obviously black people in calm. People racial is his black encompass, a vast range of complexions. So it's like the preferential treatment of those who are lighter of a lighter complexion than those who are dark, complexion and the different levels, the, the different kind of. Grades of skin color that might be kind of almost even imperceptible to wipe person who's not thinking about it will be kind of very will be very apparent to people in black communities who will think about it a lot one thing, I would like to say about color is those I often hear this argument that it's like something that's always existed, and it's just a universal preference for light skin. And that's something that I challenge and. Yeah, debunk in the book in precolonial Africa. I can't talk about Colorado them that exists in, in, in other parts of the world in Asia. For example, it's not my area of expertise. I don't know about it kind of precolonial history. But certainly in Africa, there wasn't in west Africa. There wasn't a particular preference for lighter skin, that is something that emerges from colonialism and slavery. So it's not just some. Kind of enduring norm because light skin is inherently seen as better. It's definitely something that is has been imposed. And in the book, I talk about phrases in Uraba, which is a south western Nigerian, language, an ethnic group where you're about people, even if you're not talking about anyone being mixed race, just you just you're about people who aren't mixed common diff- have different complexions. So there's a saying, like one who is red when he skin is red as palm oil basically, when he's can as RAD as palm oil in beautiful, and there's another thing about one whose skin is dark as the shining, seed of the key apple and his beautiful. The point is that e couldn't you wouldn't be beautiful. Traditionally, you wouldn't be beautiful by virtue of having light skin equally you wouldn't not be beautiful or not be attractive by virtue of having dark skin. He could have lighter skin and beautiful. You could. Have lighter skin and not abused. You could have darker skin and beautiful or not be beautiful. It wasn't dependent on your complexion. So the idea that like having being lighter just gives you beauty or not being lighter kind of denies UB. She is a relatively. Is not like an indigenous concept is something that comes from history of colonialism, and slavery, sorry, I kind of. So tonight this stuff, so linking to that in the book, there's a moment, we use sort to say that you've had lots of compliments and people almost like except you because you're tractive in many cases. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I say that. I'm grateful for. I mean, I can sound grateful. Now. I didn't feel grateful when I was experiencing some of this stuff is just with the benefit of years, having pas on hindsight. I can be like, oh, this is giving me insights, even that wasn't necessarily enjoyable at the time. But I think seeing that I had periods of my life where I wasn't considered attractive is very much side, the beauty sanded, and then having other periods of my life where that was completely the reverse and seeing how differently I was treated as a result of where I was positioned, as a tractive Renault's was actually like a huge kind of, it's kind of a quite ahead fuck yet to be on both sides. See it for what it is. And with society is in exception, what they don't at some periods of time. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I actually think. Okay, so I remember like, leaving leaving Arlanda I'm going to visit my cousins in Atlanta, where I had spent the first few of my life, I still have a lot of family there and Atlanta's in the south in America, and color, ISM. Absolutely right there. So that's one of the places I've gone, I've experienced color is at its most pronounced. And I remember like getting on the plane in Dublin, where I was referred to as like the dark one, the black ones darken, people would just describe me and the beauty sounded was very skinny blond hair blue eyes, and then I get off the plane. However many hours later in Atlanta. And now I'm I'm the beauty sounded and I wasn't prepared like I didn't know that. I didn't know about that. This is like in the mid nineties. So I didn't know things are much more localized. You didn't have the same discussions about color them, online and stuff. So I thought that if anything I actually thought I remember thinking I experienced so much racism in Ireland, and I was like, okay so black, people have never done anything to white people, but I get so much hostility in this country for being black. When I now go to a place when I go to a black place where the. These people have essentially been Tara his by why people is very obvious. The I have why ancestry I'm going to get a really hard. I'm going to have a really hard time going to shift people, but that wasn't the case. Instead, I was being Saleh braided for having visible. Why ancestry was dislike waas? What's going on? Of course. Initially, I enjoyed the attention. But that actually wore off quite quickly and of this. I will be sounded anymore. But just seeing the different position, I was the same person, but my treatment and people's perception of me, I'm people's expectations in sumptious about we were so different as well in our and being of African descent being seen as black was associated with stigma, whereas like now in the American South being light skinned was associated with being kind of, like upper class or being like more kind of sophisticated or like a lease. So it's really like jarring to just be in these vastly contradictory and contrasting spaces. So, yeah, that's kind of. Yeah. Right about some of those different those different positionings and then also an art like I did have when I got into my teams I kind of even though I wasn't like the beauty standard. The typical beauty sounded by the time I got to like aseren time my teens I did start to be seen as being like an exotic kind of beauty. But that came with, like a lot of feticide Asian. And also, as I write about in the book, it came with people actually saying, you're really lucky that you're pretty 'cause like he can get away. You can get away with being black. Was the that has been said to me numerous times in a long time. I have to say, but certainly as a teenager, that was attitude. I encountered quite frequently. So that's also a head full e-e-e-e-no. You're a teenager, and you're just really even if race doesn't come into it, you're trying to like deal with, like your appearance and you're like an on way and attractiveness. And if you're straight with boys and all of that, and then to just add this kind of racial, is element onto it, it was just incredibly incredibly notice away. Confusing. It was exhausting. Yeah. I mean, honestly it that's why love your books, much is because of all of these layers of growing up an island going through all this stuff seeing things from all these different views and being one person, which different sites to you. It's just incredible. And I wanted having had that head fuck of like being seen in different ways through different lenses. Did you then come back to yourself and more of a neutral state of like actually this is what I think about myself now in eventually, but after many years of being like all also there being an emphasis on my there being an emphasis on my looks. And basically, my looks dictating whether or not because somebody if somebody thank you look that you're pretty because you can get away being black like whoa. 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I can't believe that dictate your life. Let this bus. He was saying this just wasn't penetrating. And I it was many years after that the I just started to when I turned thirty I actually threw my weighing scales way, as a present to myself, and that was like. Probably the beginning of. Kind of yet trying to undo this like obsession with my with my appearance, I feel like appearance, we can pretend it doesn't matter. We can pretend that we think about it, but where we live in a world where people still place value, and again like importance on. Thank you. That's that brings me back to what I wanted to say, there's a bit where I quote, like Tony. Oh, maybe she didn't make it into the book, but there was a bit where I referenced Tony Morrison, who I reference a lot throughout the book. She's like, my, my favorite also I noticed on your book show. Oh my God. Look, here, there's well afterwards, you can look amazing just seven. A huge part of but, but I was reading and watching interviews with her, and I heard her talking about beauty, and she was talking about the blackest beautiful movement. And she was saying how she was never really a part of it because she was like understood why at to happen of speaking, though. I'm tiny Marcin them. She was like she was like she understood what white white happened, but she wasn't really interested because she was just like to, to whom are you speaking who are you saying the black is beautiful? She's just like is this to white people? She was like, I know she was like, I know that black. I know that black is beautiful necessarily how I felt I didn't know that or I didn't. Even if I had people telling me I was beautiful. There were also so many like kind of contradictory things telling me that like my features weren't that. I just I didn't feel I didn't feel secure in my parents tool, but she says that she knew blackness was beautiful. She didn't. She felt this constantly asserting the black was beautiful was kind of pandering to whiteness, in a way. But then the I found most interesting was she was just like to we need to be beautiful, too, for humanity to be recognized, and that really resonated, because it goes back to that thing of like you're lucky you're pretty 'cause you can get away with being black. She was just like beauty is not beauty is too fragile. And that's exactly really similar to something I'd written like before I'd even read her a heard her saying that, and it was like I came to realize that like. Beauty is so fragile. I'm it's such. It's such a fragile space to kind of negotiate your humanity like your humanity can't be given or withheld from you because people happen to perceive, you as beautiful or Norse. Like that's a it's like a track angels. Incredibly. Yeah. So I had to do a lot of work, he, like, divests from the importance that I put on looks completely the other way. And I was just like it's going to be like see per from p but I was like I don't care anymore. I did care. But as I'm gonna make that sacrifice. I'm just going to be kind of like a from p like militant famine est I just felt like I had to stop straightening, my hair because it didn't reconcile at my politics. But there was no part of me that thought it could ever be attractive. So I just walk on shapeless close stopped wearing makeup. But then I was like, this is also this is also ludicrous like this actually isn't me either, like an I also I was concerned. Especially started teaching if I was perceived as being like to glamorous people wouldn't take me like seriously. So I went completely like the other the other REUs, and then I just came to a state of more balance where I was like no people like if I'm going to wear red lipstick people are still going to have to like, take if I'm gonna wear people can still take me seriously. So I started to like, you know, be able to enjoy kind of makeup and stuff again. But like in a healthier way. No, it's like that age old thing of, like I'm a feminist and dole like I'm a feminist and wearing massive stilettos wearing red lipstick school chief hours, but just to wrap up just wanted with every with the book going out so you can get such a wide readership of redes- you hoping the kind of does or or is there a goal with it or did you just wanna writer? There's quite a few ideas in the book that may be are kind of new ideas certainly ones that I haven't heard much in the mainstream. So I would really like just to see the kind of dissemination of those ideas and we'll kind of conversations they spark. I hope so it's, it's really hard for me to kind of predict or to feel much other than quite nervous about it. So. For everyone listening needs to go and buy it. Dined touch my so brilliant, and I could have spoken chief ten hours, I've more questions, but maybe you can come back on, and we could do polity once it comes out that would be great. That'd be really fun. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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Why are we all so afraid to get real on social media?

Katie Couric

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Why are we all so afraid to get real on social media?

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I feel as though I can put out a sketch or a post and it saying as a show a standup shy. So my next question for Celeste in this highly curated. Hashtag no filter world. What does it take to be real when we're all just faking it? A social media only has the power you give it you can turn it off. You can physically and literally turn it off and walk away from it all you can use it. Use It if you want us to talk to someone. If you don't want to say something you can turn it off or use it as powerfully as you want to. Celeste Barbara realized a long time ago that our culture feeds on a certain level of artifice. I remember before social media when we'd get magazines. I'm a big fan of magazines. Always I love. Fashion install was always my bible. And you know you'd see if show of a model in there Kate Moss for example. Whatever CINDY CRAWFORD? A gorgeous model in there. But you will for me. I knew that was for them to do that. Was that was Cindy Crawford automotive on a rooftop in a bikini on a Wednesday because that's old Cindy Crawford thing to we kind of knew that there was photoshop and that it was just very heightened reality. It was odd if you will and I've always respected kind of that awful but then when social media came around and it was being sold that similar image for example was being sold as an attainable life or as something that just tap actually does happen on Wednesday for everyone right and something that was truly authentic. Yeah and living my life a living my best self and I was like this is a real but the the scary thing is it was getting to a point. We like on a people. Don't know that our people thinking that this is real and it was like a bit of a snake in the grass for me because it kind of safety in your way kissed. I guess you know you three in the morning and you're breastfeeding you haven't slept for. What feels like fifteen years. And you flicking through. Find any say these images hurt in two thousand fifteen. Celeste posted. A photo on her instagram on one side was a picture of a model in. Bali studio wearing sleek athletic. Wear her hair. Elegantly pulled back doing an incredibly flexible yoga pose on the other side. A picture of Celeste. On the floor of her home you can even see a baby in the background. She's wearing grey sweats and his also trying to do the same yoga pose getting nowhere close. She tacked the photo. Hashtag challenge accepted and then I posted it with the caption underneath it. I'm starting something 'cause I just I just knew I knew it was funny and it hadn't been tapped into and I take the piece out of all the time. It was a visual joke. Celeste had with her sister and on instagram. It was an immediate hit. Celeste did another and then another and by now. She's created hundreds of these photo and video parodies. The best way I describe it is. I take inappropriate half-naked unflattering photos of myself and put them next to models and celebrities but first comes the models. That's why I say a photo that I have posted and then I do my version of it. But it's a parody so something's attitude it's not. I'm not mimicking them. I'm adding to it. I'm doing it satire. Give me some examples of some of the funny posts. You've done. Well the first one that comes to mind which I think is probably the easiest to describe. Is Cindy Crawford during her Pepsi Commercial? Where she so beautifully opens a can of Pepsi beautiful and has a drink of it and then pulled a super bowl ad. Yes so she. She's done a reboot right exact. Yes I think vokes seventy-three questions she did it. Can you show me how Cindy Crawford drinks a Pepsi? I'll sure try. So what I did was. I had like a massive bottle of Pepsi and opened to and so the Pepsi then spread all over me. Because that's what happens and usually do this in a split screen. I use it a split screen with a video I'll go forward and back And then yeah so. The Pepsi goes all over me then. I try and SIP burping because it's fizzy and it's older but then at the end I've just try and be released sexy and Lexi and yet that I actually interviewed. Scindia my podcast. And she was such a good sport. She loved it. Yeah she loves it and I was like. Can You let pips? You know I can do something together. I'm still waiting for that cool and then you take sort of fashion spreads and it might be somebody in this ridiculous situation. Yeah posing in a bathing suit like on a some kind of contraption on the beach and then a little rickety waxing I bring on my wagon like that was one of arenas ish ache. I think you should beautiful model. Where she's just. She's got a gorgeous Chad down by the beach. And she's in these amazing little swimmers and she's just putting the chedda sitting down flicking a hair around and being gorgeous and then cut to me and I'm trying to put up h umbrella and it's trapping me onto Nathan. I'm kicking in as of Watson that's in the sand in my face and then at the end I'll just gone stand next to it too faded. It's funny but it's also I think you know you're you're tapping into how many women feel when they do look at these images that are unattainable and unrealistic and it's been shown that social media really does contribute to anxiety and depression. Not only for adults but particularly for for kids right and Is that something that that you yourself were thinking about and worried about in the back of your head is you. Kinda poke a hole in all this manufacturing of an image well. It was a very long. Winded question was good though. I like to thank you. It was it was lovely I to be completely honest with you. I did this because I thought it was funny. I my primarily just want to make people laugh always have and the fact that I am cutting through all and I've always just cut through crap I've paypal and never unsure of where they stand with me because fluff around and go. Hey people I'm always very honest and just kind of always been like that so to tie that in with wanting to make people laugh. I think that's what he have because it was kind of truth talking and calling it out and really funny. I think that's how it can cut through. It also seem to dovetail Celeste with the body. Positively Movement Rhino. That that women can be beautiful and be great in all shapes and sizes so you almost actually caught that trend is well yeah and that was unintentional as well I never started these to be a body positive thing a very happy to be caught up in that movement or what like very very happy to be but it was never an intention of mind because when we talk about beauty it seems so much of how we say. Beauty is literally how we see it and what it looks like how I look makes up very very small percentage of who I am. I believe that for a lot of us and I saw some of the things I post. I want look again because I'm like. Ooh That's that's a lot but most of the time. I see it for the funny joke that it is. I feel like people are laughing with me. There are people who laughing at me and hide it and then again go nuts. Whatever blows you back but for me it was just not even a celebration of how I looked but just a celebration of something else. Your spirit of a my sense of humor. My understanding of what's funny my understanding of knowing that that is unattainable loss style that we need to stop trying to strive full. And how funny is it if I try and do it? That's that's the main main point to it. I mean I do get if I lose weight or whatever I do get comments gun. You're looking too good now for this to work. And I'm like no no comedy beauty not oil and Water. Sh- wish that all in together and it makes up who we are and signed with United Smart and beautiful it just just showing the other the other side of social media as well trying to use it for good and so you said that you are using it in a positive way but also to. I think get more opportunities. One hundred percent have other people reached out to you. Celeste and said we think you're really funny. We'd like to talk to you about a role so look Tom. Ford is a fine example. Yes exactly when we made out and now we have boyfriend girlfriend forever and always tells the story of Tom Ford and what happened well. Hey will he's paypal. A mild may threes ago. Maybe and it was the subject line. Was Tom Ford for Tom. Ford and Celeste. Or something like that and in the email it said. Tom Ford Adores you. He thinks that you are amazing. Would love to collaborate one day best. And you know the sound. And Amal. Mike's when it comes into your inbox that sound had Bailey. Finished by the time I ride. Yes what is it eight? When did you want to just say? Sade my publicist. My publicist publicist my mom my dad. My everyone that bullied at school. I just say say to everyone and send it back and one. Yes what do you need and we collaborated before it was a campaign that he has for boys and girls lipstick where to credibly offensively attractive models of sitting at an airport. And then I just make out and there's lipstick all over them and Tom Ford said to me. I thought we could do one of it. Where you and I my cat and I was like yeah. That works for me. That's fine. That's that's fine for me so we did it with them. I just did a parody of being a model in walking down thome Ford Catwalk. So we need you just walk here again so I can tell you what you need to change liquid sunshine. That man he really is. He had all the models. Come down and may come down as well and they got in my wife and I was like why you know and then when we were doing a fitting three suck in you did. It just had some tape. Do we have some duct tape? We caught it together in a way that hey win okay. Thank you so last. And he walked out and I then just started to try to steal things. Like Tom Ford SMORGASBORD. You can take things and then we call it. The he came back and he was like. Seles is someone's trying to steal things like. It sunglasses on and handbags with one shoe in it. Well it's so exciting to have all of this happened to you when we come back. I WanNa find out about your childhood. How you got into this crazy line of work. But we'll talk about that right after this. I'd like to take a minute talk about one of our partners. Third Love was started by my friend. Heidi Zach after years of wearing bras. That to be honest with you just didn't fit in third love. Heidi set out to create a brand women could believe in and the perfect Bra for every body. Get it every body. Third love offers eighty sizes and signature. 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Artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music too. So wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point seven W M Z Q in Washington DC or wherever the rotation on the iheartradio APP. You grew up in New South Wales Far North Coast. Good Girl Yes. We did our research. Celeste so what was your childhood like. Was that a ferry sort of quaint remote Rugged beautiful place to grow up. What was it like all of those things but not rugged no I grew up. Grew up right on the border of New South Wales and Queensland as a right on the Beach Rainbow Bay Kierra. Oh Deba like that's all some of the best surfers in the world. Come from Joe Parkinson Mick. Fanning's Tiffany Gilmore Makalu Rabbit Bartholomew the all world champion surface and I've come from the And I never stopped in my life. I was dance when I was little so but it was just a really beautiful area. I grew up in specifically in a place called Tara Nora Beautiful House that my dad built and my mom designed. I have an older sister. Olivia who is three and a half years older than me. That people always ask. Who's old on Shea is older? She's three now she loves it. Yeah and I danced a lot as a kid and just was always quiet and magic and and it sounds like Your parents I read a sweet story about how they didn't want to medicate you. Even though and that they instilled in you certain confidence in loving who you are for who you are and not wanting to alter kind of your your thing your chemistry. You're GonNa your spirit yeah and I also don't really think they had much of a choice because I was. I'm I'm a lot and I like being a lot. Is your sister a lot of its size my mom and then when she's not so's my dad so we're all that's a lot big personality. Your Dad's a lot more kind of quiet and subtle with these huma and my mom is so funny when she has an audience and she knows people listening. She's a bit. Sassy like that but yeah I remember hearing them talk to. The doctor solves diagnosed with day. And now we're talking to the doctor about Mating Medicaid and the always sixteen when I was diagnosed. That's quite light to be medicated. For Day he usually happens Yanga. Well I think so. You know younger in your life earlier in your life. I'm quite grateful that it didn't because I I struggled a bit. I struggled was bullied a little bit at school. And I I like I say I was a lot of couldn't sit still for five minutes and it got to a point where teachers would not go to walk into Classic Guy. Let's just don't worry about it today. I'M GONNA go. She'll just sit outside really. Yeah because it was so distracting and disruptive. Yeah absolutely so I heard my parents saying you know when we did the test and I was very much had I did. I had to sit in the waiting room. I heard my mom sang. We just don't want her to change. We don't want drugs to change her. We just want to be a bit easier for her school and the doctors. This won't change her in any way and I remember my mom saying we know she's full on but we lock that about her. I'm getting emotional thinking about it and I'll never forget that as a sixteen year old girl hearing that it was so lovely and then honestly I took the first tablet of richland different lie. Sorry same person just I could. I sat and read a paragraph in this book about day and Mom and dad watched me and I cry because I've never sat and read anything in my life. Wow this was around the same time that your your mom said we. We liked the wages. Yeah but yeah they put you on medication. Anyway I'll yes but they put me on medication. Sorry put me on Medication. Because the doctor said it will not going to change her. It's just going to make her focus and it's GonNa make up that chemical in her brain that she doesn't have that will help her to sit and listen in class and know how to read story on Russia's story. It's going to help her and exactly what happened. I didn't change at all. I could just focus. And that's when I started writing jokes and that's when I could kind of see it and really get into what it is. I wanted to do so. Tell me what is she wanted to do? And how you did it I went to drama school so I've always written jokes and just always been funny and loud and always thought it's not really 'cause I think comedy comes quite easily to me. I find it quite easy so for some silly reason I think. Well that's not acting needs to be hard and torturous and really a challenge every night or every day onset so I went to drama school for three years graduated instead of doing it like a few little comedy shows not stand up but acting. Because I'm tryin doctor right first and foremost an actor and then I got a role on a television show. Strategy called Ole Science which was kind of like the guys anatomy Without the without the MKHREDRIONI And then I was on that for five years and kind of played a bit of a Lotta character to everyone else but it was a dramatic drama show absolutely and then it was my beautiful friend. Mock precisely who has since passed away? Hey so sad. I read about that West. Yeah it was very very close friend of yours. Who took took his own life. He killed himself. Yeah it was. That was a lot to deal with was he is was he an actor yes one. I know his name. I'm sure he was quite well known in astrology. He was this is before all these started coming over and taking Iva Hollywood He was incredible. And Hey was the one. He's just come around to my house at like three. Im with a caveat. Cameron Douglas to shoot stuff. And I'm like yes. Let's do that and we'll just chit stupid sketches and with the funniest things in the world and I always thought hey was sorry funny so wonderful and then the and saw did everyone hey was very well known in the industry and loved and sought after and then the fact that. Hey said to me. I'll never forget. This conversation will sitting onset inbetween hikes of someone's dying on the hospital bed on this show. I really dramatic but in between our lauding setup so something mock and obviously they're just like riding a little sketch and he went. Maybe you should say and then you just don't know you know what you're doing and I was like all right. He Goes No. You know what you're doing. And then he went. You know that right. You're you're amazing at comedy. No one can do what you do. And he's like because I was always would've just boring and he goes no that's boring. You not understanding what you can do is boring now so just get on with it and bang that Dione Eilly lent into it. Lent into my strengths lent into what I loved and Kana new always good ash. So wh where did your career take you after that Unemployment for a little while now. then rotter on a really bad shot that we don't enjoy about and I had babies and then it was when I had my seconds on I won. I won that my friend called me and said she's doing some standup on you. Because I'd always been told I should do stand up and I was like yes. You tell me what you doing it. I'll send flowers. I'm so excited on a lot. I know what's happening. I know what's coming and she said I want you to open for me and I was. She got a good time. 'cause I was sleep deprived ahead newborn and I went she goes. It's like five minutes. It's in a small space. It's in the Sydney fringe festival. Five minutes and I went. Okay no no. I want short. Yeah yes hang up and she just hung up because the last thing I said was yes and so then I went tad and so I had five minutes I got off and I did it and it was one of the you know. I either stories like Shirley Temple whatever you terrified but then you open the curtain and he say the microphone and the spotlight and you think I'm never leaving. I will die up here. This is amazing and I was supposed to be five minutes. And after fifteen minutes she was Kinda side stage going get off and then that was done and and obviously you wouldn't feel this way. The reception wasn't incredible to your humor. And you did you and then did you sort of transition to stand up well then. Instagram started coming more and more like did more always posting twice a day instagram. Because I knew it was good on new a one out there. I wanted people sent to some of my friends who had like ten thousand followers who well-known actors. Can YOU RE Pisces familiar? Really want to. I think it's something good and it's all my friends thought. It was hilarious and so had excellent going show. This is my friend. Celeste and posting out for me and then I kinda got to a point where I was like. I'm very. I'm very proactive. Always have pain Hustler. Might Lisa Marina have to be at least serenity mean. I'm a hustler and I remember sitting at my computer and just went while there's nothing really coming in and I'm there's a lot on putting out and I'm getting a lot of people want to interview me about it and it was really blowing all right instant gratification and I was like cracking up main. I'm a million followers by now. It grew really quickly and I went. I WANNA I WANNA prove myself. I'm I know what I'm doing and I just in that moment. Wended and book to theatre in Sydney in Australia. I was living just OUTTA CD at that time had just had my second baby and I was like I WanNa Book Vita so book. Two nights at the Job Dwarf in redfern in Sydney and then went. Oh Shit Oh God no. It was three months from that date. One of what nothing on on one deuchar handle didn't assault it out and killed on twitter and now making out Tom Ford when we come back how Celeski back to her native land in. Its time for me guys. My name is Sammy. J I've been working as a correspondent and interviewer. Since I was thirteen and now at seventeen I am so honored to be the youngest person to have her own. Podcast on iheartradio. It's called. Let's be real with Sammy J. We'll have in depth and unfiltered conversations with celebrities activists athletes and influencers. We have some incredible guests. This season including hitmaker. Meghan trainor the amazing Katcha Grammy winning producer famous youtube sensation. Liza Koshi Grammy nominated singer Songwriter. Jillian michaels the boy band sensation. Why don't we and many more will cover topics we're curious about topics? Guests are passionate about and topics many of us are just too afraid about I get past the fluff to what's real we go there and it's fun pretty crazy and very revealing listen to. Let's be Real Sammy. J on the iheartradio APP apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast now to Australia. Where they're facing those massive fires already among the worst in that country's history haunting images flames plumes of smoke and firefighters desperately battling walls of fire another costly and deadly day in this month's loan catastrophe the terrifying scale of Australia's bushfire disaster is beginning to emerge merge. Bushfires are not new to Australia but this fire season has proved to be one of the country's worst ever by some estimates as many as twenty eight people have died more than twelve million acres have burned to the ground and thousands of homes have been destroyed and then of course there were all the animals because the devastation was so personal for Celeste. She did the only thing she could think of. She turned to her instagram following. You raised I believe and correct me. If I'm wrong Celeste. Thirty MILLION DOLLARS. Maybe more well. I raised fifty one and a half million Australian forty. I in American dollars. I don't know it's amazing amount of money because of the wildfires in Australia and this this affected you very personally not only because you're from Australia but but you had friends and family members and watch their homes go up in smoke right well. My my mother-in-law is in eight in which is the complete other end of the state from where Waleed. It's a far south coast of New South Wales and wear on the far north coast. And so it's where oppy my husband is frightened. He's home and way with Christmas. And I remember going up straight or something and going God this smart and we knew there were five is kind of around and it was terrible and terrible like in camera at capital and in South Australia on kangaroo island like it wasn't good but I was like what is bad and then kind of the spikes really full on here and then we left off to Christmas. I went home and it it. It swung it. It came really really badly and my husband's causing lost her home. We've lost a billion wildlife so I saw my mother in law who was a very very strong woman. I'd sixteen years with his excellent woman and she is a strong lady and she was not okay and she was panicking. And that really really struck me and the thing is she so she's so well informed and so hands on joy that she was like no one's hia there isn't a helicopter in the sky. There isn't any idea on the on the ground which is not the fault of the ATF. I it's it's a government thing that there's no one here and and that's when I went. Oh my gosh. And that's when I started the fund raiser and I just said please help anyway you can. This is terrifying and sought goal of thirty thousand dollars because I also saw paypal internationally. Going how can we help? Because we're following internationally. Papal people wanted to. They didn't know what to do exactly and I mean there's obviously otherwise. They are the places. I could've done it to it but the way I ended up doing it was just really straightforward. It was just a kind of Swat Click Don and I think that's kind of what people needed as well And then yet way also my husband and I kept. Everyone very updated on my instagram stories. Which were getting millions of views. My stories because people like this is how we're staying updated. Which is a really daunting thing. Because you guys wanted to make sure I know what I'm talking about the big responsibility -solutely but it does show how media consumption has changed absolutely. It's instantaneous. It's it's You know what do they call it? citizen created. Yeah it's not. You're not a journalist and its power to the people. I keep saying that I keep up with the amount of money raised and also when I would post about it. I had so many people going on. This is also happening on all K- cool that's good to know when I'm actually that people know about that or yield. Add that to your stories asked has a very much three sixty view of our country and I was also acutely aware of letting people that I'm not the face of this. I'm not the savior of this. I'm I'm you on that person over there. I'm scared and this is my kind of experience of the whole thing. And then we ended up getting to homolka fifty one and a half million dollars. That's amazing yeah and then turns out of sight of the World Vessel Journey Bill. But I mean I'm sure you you helped a great deal it well. It was extraordinary industrial. Our firefighters majority of firefighters volunteer and there were stories coming through of. I'm talking icy foot. Flames in the sky coming that will go through over a few kilometers in fifteen minutes. And you can't you can't put that out of Human Bank COMPO that that has to burn can't but they're standing there in shoes that I've just sneakers and like with some of them putting just putting the hand over their mouths because I don't have the equipment so that's why I that's why I chose the new office to get to it was the trust. Rsf rfs yet new South Wales Rural. Fire Service So the volunteers can because then all the money goes to the brigade so then I go out and get the equipment that they need. Hopefully finally the fires got under control and are now out Salazar at because now we're underwater. Well tell everyone listening. What has replaced the problem? Because now it's flooding obviously with flooded in. I showed you a a photo before we started of middle of Sydney. The M- the city and water is up to the windows of the CAS with flooded. The FIS are all out with flash flooding. It's it's the deforestation and nothing there too high of I think so. I haven't I've been here since I mean. It was torrential rain when I left to fly here to the states so I haven't been home to see exactly what it is but it. It looks as though. Yeah that's that's what it is. It's it's terrifying. It's terrifying and I'm all I now goes all right. I'll stop another fundraiser. Or is another fifty million dollars and I don't know what to do I really don't. It's quite scary. Do you feel like the world is a scary place right now. I mean obviously it's it's great to have moments of levity and relief through people like you and your humor but so many friends of mine feel that we're in such dire straits in so many different ways I agree. I think it's a very scary time. I do however feel that. There's a bit of a groundswell going on at home in Australia. And I'm here a lot and I've been here a lot in the past few years when you had now have different president and everything and when I first came over when he was first in office I was like. Oh this is terrifying. This is this is well. You just feel it was very hostile but since coming back more and going higher back and forth and over to the UK as well. I feel like there's a real groundswell happening. I think the Internet has a lot to do with that because we can all you can sit here and talk now and we can all reach out to each other more. And but I'm just having this thing where like I said before power to the people and and I feel like that's really starting to bubble which it needs to bubble quicker so before we go. What is your dream? Where do you want to go from here Celeste? Barber my goal in life is to play the king in Hamilton. I would love to play. I can't sing And I'm not a man but I wanna WanNa try and find a way to make that a character choice for that character to play the king and I think the most incredible role ever and everything I do I do from the ground up. And that's really exciting and and amazing exhausting so I'm really liked the idea of just been given a script and a coal shape now and just turning up to a film that would be lovely and because you have a busy life in two little boys that are still seven and eight and nearly six eight and six. I've got A. You've got a busy life with your Hashtag. Hot has been so hot. He's isn't he pat? It makes my labs out people. Come and say to you like good on you for snagging. Well done congratulations. Because he's hot yet. But it's also interesting when my husband drops out son's at school when someone and throw walk pastas high husband. My husband's like no. No that's weird. That's oppy or to Mr Robin. Please don't say that that's very weird from like ten year olds signing it so funny well. I'm really happy to meet you. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you so much for having trait for me and absolute trace. Well thank you thank you and that does it for this week's episode of next question. Everyone have to say I'd so much fun talking with Seles Barber. She so delightful. And if you like a laugh. She's a must follow on instagram especially during these troubling times. Oh and Celeste also interviewed me for her. Podcast called Celeste and her best. I love her friend Tom by the way. Who does this podcast with her? You can find that on the luminary podcast APP. I'm not sure when that's coming out. But keep listening out for it and while you're at it keep an eye on next question. We've got a lot of good stuff coming so make sure you subscribe on Apple podcasts. 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Sisterhood and Self Care with Nadia Narain & Katia Narain Phillips

"Hello and welcome back to the whole cost. I'm joined today by sisters, not yet rain and cut yet Let's not Inkatha have hold degree as well as online cool at south CAV rituals in the real world birth one that a businesses, but not as a negative chat decades of experience, a cost you had the founder of neck to cafe hit London on today's episode. We spoke about the self cab rituals at got through difficult times the advice they would give someone who wants to live more in the future, and how we can create a realistic, daily routine full of nourishing rituals than the real world I also Steve Questions. They came out with. tastic on says it was a really hot conversation. You're listening to this episode. Let's bring on the amazing, not yet a coaching. Welcome, Nadia and cutting the puck cost. Manny Hide Madeline Marie ready to have your hair and we're gonNA, be talking about all things south cast. Which is definitely something that's been probably quite complicated. During these challenging times I'd love to know from both of you. Walk the self community so when we wrote off us. We had to just figure out what south cheminant. Who has been and that was just treating ourselves kind in doing these things that we knew were good for us, and then in this particular period of time. We noticed that if we literally didn't do things my. Get to bed early. Eat well exercise every day and really be kind in our heads with a full all of stuff it would really affect on mood, and how we were the day and I think if full, we would move distracted by things you could find something that will bring you joy you. Could you know it was external? Whereas this period has been very internal, and we talk to each other every day, we. We both noticed that our Karen just eh too late last night, so that's really affected me today or I didn't eat. While yesterday has made me a little agitated today, and what else conflict? He think well for me right now. The most important thing is staying really present and just trying to focus on today, and not looking too much. Like when will that information came out of the ease of the lockdown and Business repainted in. My business is going to start opening next month. It really freaked me out. Because as so much to think about now in so many restrictions and money and businesses get it be able to Rhonda's normal, and so I saw to get like laser. Things is really tight chest every time I saw to think it, whereas now I'm just trying to take it in small steps and things to myself Akita Cup a month to figure this out. Let's not jump all the way in and just. Just take each little baby step and get over each huddle, so it's really about staying present and staying clear and not letting my mind spiral into the unknown, because no one knows what it is, and do you have any tools to keep you presen-. Are there any things you can do when you're lost? Sitter cyclists, those doing things that helped me to concentrate like I've started the hobby doing cross stops in regards to concentrate what I'm doing. It does not in business. He's made his favorite now. Vegetables died face MOSS. Say when I'm just doing things I. Love, it keeps me really present and really focused exercising reading. They, that Nadia said as well like eating well sleeping while if I have a late night I sleep, and I'm more likely to start feeling. He negative the next day I. Think the way you saw your day. to eat if you have any mooning rituals or morning practices that set you up for the day I. Just continued as I was the fool, because that felt like it had worked to me before, and it continued working as we went into the lockdown, and that was just get up at the same time at removing, and I made my heart ordering lemon and I make my cup of tea, and then I go back to my bed. I have a journal that I. write in my thoughts, and I write things. That I'm grateful. Fool and then I meditate the twenty minutes, and it takes about. Forty five minutes to an hour, but that's my tyne to really bring me back to my center and you know there was a little bit of thinking will maybe I'll just throw that out a window and go with the flow, a little bit, and see what happens and I tried that, and I was I. Oh, now I need that. Go the phone later on in the day, but I needed to set my morning and get my head in the game. The way that I needed to, but sounds amazing. Not Kidding. Everything's on a window right now. 'cause the kids. At her the whole time if I can just sit outside with my cup of tea than I feel I won that battle. All morning rituals have gone out window for me, but we have stall. Sit in the evenings as family to get kids to unwind. Dr Whole Day in front of the computers and doing whatever we're doing is to go out in the evenings for like. Bike rides and long rule works, and that has been all way grounding ourselves and ending the day. Thoughts on so lovely, I love an evening. Walk does definitely wind down. You talk a little bit about writing a journal about gratitude I would love to talk a little bit more about seeing grudge cheat especially in difficult times, nutty about journaling. Is that the best way to describe to you? What all the different ways and benefit so? If he is guy. We started with the five minute journal that you can buy online. You know they've designed page in such a that. It makes it very simple that you think of three things that you grateful for in the morning you come back to it in the evening. You right three things. You're grateful for your day and then you right have, you could have done better. You write your attention. We boasted that for a couple of years, and we really noticed wanted difference in May to us, and just from our operating in various things for. For the past we will always initiative scanned of mode. Like do we have enough? Should we have more doing to work harder and doing this? Reading made us go. Wow, we have so much, and we are so grateful for all of it. And someone gave me this really beautiful journal for my day, and so instead of using the Internet journal I just started giving it in this book where I would add other thoughts and feelings that I had and during this particular time right at the beginning of lockdown can't here nine rose tool to law about? How we thought was the best way to move forward in this without spiraling and being fear in the one thing that became very apparent to both of us were how grateful we were that we had a home to live in that. We had the food that we needed that. We were in lovely relationships, and it was a peaceful environment. You know as far as violence in the house or anything I mean. There was so much that other people were contending with that. We Really. Really didn't have to deal with and so we just thought okay. We'll start here and every time. We kept coming back to that. When we saw what was going on. In the world, we just overwhelmed with contentment and gratitude I guess appreciation an idea. Write it down every morning. You know that's just how I start my day and I dunno Kasey. Does it her way. I mean I think because we've had that practice. It was very easy for mindset to go straight into that. I mean it literally went for like Oh. My God this is happening fear and then straight into, but look at what we've got. And Look at how much we have and I think that's because of all the years of practice of doing not your could you said you brace? Of a slight more of a lack mentality in affair mentality. Do you feel like the first time he started practicing gratitude at changed or has been just very slow steady increase of every day. I think it's a slow and steady progression. I think that it happens I've been night and I think you start small with the things in with this whole lockdown is. It's been so beautiful because we really stoute's. It is well sometimes when you first start out. You don't really feel it you just you're writing it. It's a practice and now it's like justice overwhelming appreciation for everything that we've got yes such a peaceful way to live. What is your advice to someone who struggles to let go and accept what we can't change. Is really trying to control everything. That's a tough one. Tough one at any point in life whether that is wanting to be in a relationship, not being in one morning to have a baby, not being able to have either there's so many variables of that has been like in RN personal life's. Again it's another thing that we had to. He practicing. Both of us have a real trust in without China's sound annoying, or you know if we back on lives through old heartbreaking all the discomfort and all the pain and both of us have had a lot of that, even though it doesn't seem to be from. Books and things like that, but there was a lot of struggle, and you know I think the gratitude practice really helps and this sort of trusted. We all looked officer. Something that you may want in this moment. It may not be the thing that you need right now, so there's another lesson to be learned with. There's a year off all the carried around a Gannett the elephant, God in Hindu tradition use Indian and he always gave to us is gifts. Gifts you gave us a pendant, or give us into Ulta, and it represents the energy of taking away and putting the right obstacles in place, because life is really about how we grow in how we'd love, and so sometimes we gripping onto things that maybe not right for growth. That doesn't really tell you how it, still she why you should like a man. No, no, it's really really helpful, though so when you know why it's easier to let guys net, yeah! It's very easy to be grateful for good things like we very apparently like we have a house, we have cigarettes, and usually if we look at retrospect to things that we let go off, we can be. Back at some of my relationships that I didn't WanNa, let go of in the moment. I look at now. My Oh, thank God I'm not with that person. And the more he practiced, the quicker it can come in the moment, so it can be sad, and it could be upsetting, and that could be grief, and it could be all of those feelings, but it doesn't take quite as long to go. Okay I trust. Trust it. I needed to let go of that to make of this new thing. My father is a psychiatrist child psychologist, and he always whenever I'm going through the different rounds of the human experience, difficult ones. He's always says to me. Isn't it amazing that you'll feeling these things? And even a? He doesn't cool it gratitude because he's oversee gone through medical trading and doesn't have that kind of language around, but he has. The. To kings me about accepting the different stages. I'm being an. And how they actually make you feel alive, and that's always really stuck with me when I'm going through something difficult as learning from it feeling, accepting and knowing that it is popping alive. We just tell the story of at the beginning of lockdown. You're crying in KC. So I mean I was so overwhelmed with sadness for everything that was happening and I was crying and crying in bed, and he kept. What's wrong? What's wrong? The Euro K. K. and I kept saying I mckay. I can be side without at being something wrong with me. I can be okay and feel sadness, and it took him a while to a yeah. I guess you know that was nothing wrong with me. There was nothing wrong I just felt sad and I was able to just let it out. It's really lovely. Thank key sharing that you to have the a very special relationship that you shared so much with one other and I think that is really nice. 'cause you're showing each other these new tools, a helping each other and obviously sharing things that buzzing you, if either fill that you have that relationship with your sister or your friend or your partner, how can you allow more trust to allow those kind of deeper conversations to come up? GET THERE I. Was GonNA say. It's really chicken with so lucky we haven't. Seen this post, you know it really happened about fourteen years ago. When father was dying, we got thrown into the situation together. That was so intense and we were in India, and we were away for everything that we use, and we were watching him die very quickly. I get all just happened very instantly and. Merman! We became very own dish, but it wasn't always the case. We've always had access to people I. Still have therapies that I speak to you in Khanty has a life coach that she checks in which and just from our own practices, these deeper conversations are always important for us to have you know to find people to have them with whether that teacher or I denotes the rabbi, or whoever is you know? Yeah, no, that's really lovely. It's interesting how. Much closer together I think that happens. It'll happen with my mom and her sisters as well. I would find it and I think you would find it very difficult to buy. We constantly having the deeper conversation about mice so either sometimes you might not have at the family member. If those questions that you will always find a friend or I mean that's what's the beauty of yoga sauce is that you could be completely different to anyone in your friend group or your family group? You should be asking only sort of existential questions about life and the breath and energy you might have known that understands you in your world that you come to a close and as a result of people all in the same boat. You know all kinds of asking that same question. How do I find peace in what is the point who had my? Why might here and that's the thing about finding a try or having people that have the same questions as? I do think. Social media has been able to connect people in these interests of. UPS downsides like everything, but I think it has allowed people to connect together in such an amazing way and help people find other people who are interested in the same things the show. Do you guys have any techniques for reducing judgment? Because judgment is something that can come up in conversation or just in your thoughts to other people to yourself. Is this something that either of US struggle with the you're working on, you've done practices. Within Queens of Judgment. We have to really work at this, and we practice with each other a loss like we could cool it out on each other easier than we can cool the out on sell. talks about it i. mean the made treat yourself the way he would treat someone that you really meeting loves and again it's a practice that anything care, yet it's about having awareness about voice as well so when you have the awareness, and you catch the voice than instantly changing the voice. We've got worksheets and stuff that. We printed out where you cut the voice that comes up and then you change the record, so you change it to a more positive thing and I think when you do that when you physically rice, it Dow. It's thoughts to stick more. Rewiring of the brea does also really good practice with other people. It's dependent children practice. Wish she just. The phrase is just like me so when you start to have judgement on someone else. You kind of just say that show that just like me and it just makes everyone understand that everyone's kind of struggling especially during this lockdown period. You really so people's personalities come out. People were angry and people were generous and. And people were stingy in either so many things that came out, but it all just came from their own fear, and it was not personal to you. It's the really interesting time. Because at the beginning there were a few people that I felt really hurt i. like what they have any cold. Check or anything like that. And then as the weeks went on, you just go hang on. They're going through this stuff. China manage what's happening in their own lives. about this a lot when we wrote Self Catholic South Latian because you could look at people that have money will have a house in the country or that have a swimming pool. You know you're just like well. Fuck it, man. That's really easy for you. I'm stuck in an apartment in the middle of Allowed out for an hour a day. You don't know what's going on in their relationships or in their own heads, and even though we didn't have maybe other people had, we knew that we had an inner feeling peace and you put us anywhere we would be. No K S acting that you saying Nadia. Everyone's problems in the middle of the same, you'll always take IOS back. Yes, in the middle of the road and you don't. And so yet the judgment, it's a practice. I think what we both learned. The years is the more you judge other people. The truth is is that you have judgment on yourself. You Soften Matt judging voice to yourself the software you get towards other people. That's really lovely, IT S. missed. We're just practicing. Why do you think so many of US 'cause? I know I'm included. This is something I'm past. As well. Why do you think we are sage on gentle on ourselves and so hard on ourselves when to the outside perspective to the best friend he on upon us. It seems like everything's going great to got. Inviting comments all. Why do you think that we still kind of drill down on ourselves even though? Such wonderful human. Ask Your Dad that. I'm sure he'd have an attorney. A much better we do either it's not the only reason, but we came from very judging critical voices grabbing up nothing that we did was good enough, and it was because they would mean. It was usually because they had a hangover. They were in a bad mood. Or you know so from a very early age everything that we did irritated lightly, so those were the voices that we got from a very very young age, and then we have a whole whole history that we will get into here on this podcast, but we had to. To really find our own way, which is why we got involved in wellness, because we were trying to find ways to find myself love and south accepted I mean for me throughout route besides like family upbringing dislike the whole school system in our generation with so it wasn't like how it is now where everything is about trying to educate the child as a whole, and you're thinking about the kid's feelings, and in my son's teacher cools ordains. Don't be over weld. Just don't do the work feeding stress. joiners could be outside on. What's? Jimmy like that as a child. Yes school just made me feel so insecure and I'm still hurry sesing all of that, and it comes out, and I get triggered with it so easily. Goja, I'm late. Are Headmistress in school. She was the deputy headmistress in the school that we went to you. She ended up reading a book. which is a while because? I mean school. I left school I was sixteen when at school cocky went onto coinage. She read our book. And she wrote in the email to me, and she was also my French teachers while so we had a little bit more of a connection, and she said something interesting in the email she said you. Most kids have something stable at home, or they find it at school, and you didn't really have either, and you didn't have it at school, but you didn't have it at home and I was like. Wow, that's really interesting because you. Is Raising her kids in such awaited. You are paying attention to what you say to them. You are apologizing when you not. You're not with perfect, and you're not never gonNA. Shout at your kids, but the you're able to be able to accept when you're wrong and we just Neka have that so for us. The South criticism and the self judgment was a big part of our grading. I mean I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that whether it's yes, school or family or friends. That kind of ways we can heal those tool mursal. Go back and kind of. Rewrite them but sit of ease them Sudan. No. US on a day to day, and that nagging voice of that teacher or Parent that told them they weren't good enough or anything around that kind of area. How can we a not let basic effects personality in all decisions. I made me personally. Therapy has been a huge part of my healing and a meditation practice has been a huge part of he just to be able to get quiet enough to see. Oh, hang on that sweb that comes from you know. That's why I reacted like this because of my fear of this Oh. My voice that says this about myself. So yet. You learn how to respond. Drago than reacts to the situations by all the techniques that we've talked about. Amazing yet another no, that makes complete sense. How about motivation with exercise? I know I've really struggled during lockdown to feel enough. We'll kind of motivation to help. You guys to continue yoga practice to get daily movement every day. For me it spin festival to really find the thing that I want to be doing and one of my favorite teaches is doing zoom crosses. Now I mean, listen to my body like last week. I did a lot less. I was sick this week doing a lot more because I feel good and strong, and I know that when I do exercise I feel good in. It's sad thing again. It's like if I don't exercise. Exercise and I look in the mirror. I have total body small going on, and as soon as I exercise and I. Look in the Mirror. I still so much better about myself and say that's me. I know that it's just so good for that mental dialogue that I. Have the judgment that I have about myself. As well I felt like at the beginning. I had these big dreams of like. I'm a celebrity back. Actually. Obviously because you could be doing tosses with someone in New York City if you wanted to. You know the latest trend or the latest this latest. And actually all I wanted with voices were familiar to me. If I take a call so this Sunday at ten with a friend of mine, and it's assumed miserable yogurt sauce. I like hearing her voice in seeing her face, and the other crosses that being taking with another girl could be Annika. We to kirk loss and she's got really good energy at. It's not about. The best persons from La or the best person from this place with that place I just WanNa connect to someone that I feel I have a connection with at the moment. And it took us a while to get what it definitely took me a while to get into a schedule because I was still walking and trying to find my way, and so I've got a schedule now up in my kitchen. That says day the causes all that I do and then on. On days that there. I just make sure that I go for really nice walk in the park, and at the beginning of lockdown I can concentrate on anything yoga. Anything at my mind is just in a million pieces, so used to go dogs on this one tree in Pau I made a playlist like Covid, nineteen happy playlists and I put my head on, and I just don't for an hour and that was it. You didn't have to be anything more than that. Has Working together being like assistants? You've created books online programs so much together. It's amazing, and I think really spoken about south. Karen Insightful way ready ready loves you. So. What's the experience been like doing it together? We by todd businesses where we were on a a whole lives. vite discuss that it's actually really nice and comforting to shed the responsibility with someone, and we've been able to accomplish so much more than just on a by having each other. Support each other I mean we've had a couple of arguments, but nothing really that significant, and it's been really good. I mean it's definitely made us closer as well because we had to see each other a lot more on street, each other lights. That I think the arguments that we had. What's interesting talking about the self judgment and the pause paddles is we think now about the arguments that we had they were really coming from our own insecurity that story and both of us were able very quickly to go. Okay, this is coming up for us. Let's get some help and let's figure out how to work. You kind of like a marriage when you know that you've got a good marriage, and something's not quite working like the quickey you can walk it out. The easier you get through it and the most important saints of the bus from the very beginning. We've never wanted any of this. This to get in the way of sisterhood, our friendship to nothing was more important than that. It's just being supernatural. We've both been in the same kind of field of wellbeing over twenty three four years. Each me with Yoga with massage admits sued, and we've folks studied so much in the field bit. It wasn't just a calculated the food and I did the yoga all into sole, said the feelings, and the practices were from both of our experiences of healing that we had to do on ourselves and Yeah we love Wacky. We have so much fun working together. We would love to work more together in the future and see what we could keep doing. So of. Causing enough tonight like what's in your fridge water, the kind of recipes you're always may hang because I know your big Fadi. That any kind of ingredients recipes. You couldn't live without Oh. I mean. What's in my fridge right now I've got shake piece actually sprouting to make full. Turkey addicted at a moment to making mangoes lock. Obsessed with them at the moment I love just experimenting. A lot of people think that I eat like what my cafe cells, which is like all healthy. You'll Gannett news feed, but I've got to men in young one in the house and they don't want to eat. So I asked to make everyone's GonNa eat N-, everyone's GonNa Light, and a big emphasis for me is just to try and get as much greens as possible into them. Really been enjoying just cooking for the joy of cookie, not for the cat now yet amazing 'cause usually I'm so tied from will the time that you come home and you don't have stat time to sort of experimental. Learn new things you just. Do you know how to do? And at the moment, especially in my husband's not working richest in the kitchen the whole time trying me things in because we're not eighteen out, we'll see like the knees Ni-. Indian NI-. A Chinese Ni- mix can night, and we get radiance light learning new techniques in new things. To Cook with, and it's been really really. Fund sounds awesome and Jason. La. The posted to anyone else about skeets. Picture by Fritsch the other day, and every was so impressed and three months in lockdown I have cooks. meal I haven't had one take out. I think caucus could once or twice Mike. Friend Geese to drop me some feet once and I had one dinner with a friend, but the rest of the time I. Add cookie, and that is most unwise. So amazing. Did you say you have Indian yes hundred fades? Is that part of your everyday eating, defoe defoe quite influenced by Indian cuisine will wait with born and raised in Call A. K., and off all the he was Indian bit on mother, still lives in Hong Kong in our father was born in Hong Call. He died in India revisited yet, but we were raised in Asia. And he was a real foodie, and he loved taking us to dinner to try new food. That was his thing, actually Japanese and Chinese food I mean we love Indian. tiny's Japanese food like if that was all lost meal that that'd be. Amazing. That's homes like a delicious way. I can't cook anything without Oh. That takes like So? Nor Do you have any advice for women wanting to build the business. I think of the real starting. Bet is the hardest bet, isn't it? But if you have any words of wisdom as to buy successful businesswoman? I remember with a cafe in while I was talking about even with like this process of starting to open again in July was when I look at everything. I needed to do for the cafe. It was too much, but when I break it down into like these small achievable steps than I was able to just stop kicking off the list and. Little steps rather than trying to run a marathon and then I could breathe through it, and I was able to just do it, but if you think too much about like all the things he needs to be a become so overwhelming that you just Stop Account County this I always love with content. Because we get this question law we get off on a panel of businesswomen in Caccia. Do even haven't business what he was. ME. And I feel like everything idea is. We both have our moments where we hate what we do, but we. Love what we do so much that it never feels like a job, you know it feels like we're just so lucky that we get to. How people feel good or we get to feed people good food all that we get to write a book in. It makes such a difference in someone's live said whenever we go into our places of I. Don't know whether we just don't feel like. We're doing as much as other people doing a win all social media as much as other people lower. Why don't we have a podcast like Madeleine has? Whatever it is. Just kind of go back to those little DMZ. Reviews or emails that people have sent us just went. Oh, your book really helped us. Get through that difficult time or you know I never told you this that your toss is I never told you that I was sick in your food. And you just go while you make a difference to one person, and that feels so good that we kind of have everything we need like we pay our bills. We have that we love 'em. We feel inspired every day to get up and do all. That is I don't know that's kind of good enough for us. Not Fantastic, I think I'll add onto another reason. Why great businesswoman is because you'll sent it like. He said he love what you do. You Passionate? You're interested you've been through a not shines through and I think about it's so enticing so attractive because you can feel it. Do you know what I mean I think about should be another of your points when you're on your next. I think the one thing that I'll just add. If someone advice is I, watch it with Conti Lot. Concierge sees it with me a lot. We help mental people in whatever way that we can, so she's always taking care of the standoff in her cafe. That are all young girls you know, and they're all going through whatever boyfriend drama or parent drama. Whatever it is, you know. She's constantly Gyna-. K. Can always come and stay at my house if you need somebody to. To stay, or how can I help in some way and I have teaches always coming to me in going. You know how unlike other really not just keep doing what you love to do, and I think that's really important in businesses to be generous and to help. There's always enough to go around you never have you gotta hold onto thing, 'cause you're you know is plenty to go around and there's plenty for everyone and the mood. Generous Eua, the more it comes back. I think that's a really beautiful way to live life and it just makes you feel at ease. Whatever position you are in because I do think sometimes people don't enjoy even when they're at the toll. Every, Store hydrogen, why keeps coming into my mind? I remember when office, but and we're in Paris together, and we were like walking and talking about are manifestations of. What the book was going to do and naughty was like a cake is always. We've make enough that we can buy really nice underwear and bras and I was like. Mom. Can we a little bit high? And I was like. He's calling goes back here. And it was just. As long as we make enough to get rid is on. Each is. Now a bigger now than just. Did you buy yourself some noise under publication. I get hit one of those things i. feel like your underwear. You're songs. He kind of deal with them for a long time. and. He might have like one pair of underwear. I just felt like it'd be so nice to be in that place where you could just always find yourself new underwear new. I can see that I like credit yoga. I have one final question for you by witches. What does getting back mean to you? I feel like you. Glow is inside, and it's an inner vibrancy in luminosity that you were con- through all of these practices into me whether it's meditation or the grass achieve practice, and just trying to beat a feeling of joyful appreciation and contentment in my life, and I think that it comes from the inside out, and you can put all the fancy stuff on talk that you want to, but people really do look, could your eyes they look through your eyes, and they see that from the inside. So that's what it needs to me. I think for me right now, and I've seen this with quite lost people rule is really doing things that you love with like feeds the soul, and so many of us have been so busy and walking and walking and walking. We've not given ourselves any time. Who Do these things and feed ourselves? And I've noticed that many people with this lockdown have finally found space and doing things feeling so good, and they want a change in their lives now. They don't want to go forward like that anymore. Just like in the rat race in. They want to be able to live a life where that balanced beautiful, so you lay suspect is self cafe self-isolation, which is out now, which isn't bitch. Even Kate Moss loves. Is that anything else? You'd like to plug shower. Shower the so any passing words of wisdom coffee and I've been talking about this law on different things, and I think now that we're coming out of lockdown I think it's really important to really down this things that you've loved and the things that you wanna take forward because it very quick to forget, get busy again and just get lost. It's just not gonNA be possible that we're going to remain like best within a year or two. Everyone would have forgotten how hot! Hot this time was or how much growth within this time and so you know whether that's just writing it down in a notebook, or there was a practicing book that we said right yourself a Latin, now about the changes in how you felt and send it to yourself in six months, so that you get it in six months and see where you're at, and that's why we wanted to write the book as quickly as possible and get it out because this is an. An unprecedented time in our life time in our history, and we wanted to write down as quickly as possible. The things that we felt were helpful to us and if we could use that to help other people that we just recorded the audio book a few weeks ago, and we were sitting in our competence, you know. China recorded all and we're reading back and you're like. Wow, even in eight weeks with a ten weeks so much has changed since we wrote the book. Of Cool and a quick to I think it's really important to document this and really trying to take forward like I really like to be able to take forward. Some of the cooking in my life and not just go back to being something that just goes out for dinner time Conti. Wouldn't you think I want more space? A more time to be creative definitely is been so important to me and other nights. Kind of made me feel like for a long time. I started to say to myself by all. I just reached this dead end Wa. Can I felt like I couldn't even create anymore. Recipes at a cafe or anything need now just. With creativity just feel so great to have some space and it's inside us. We just don't let it out. Clearly. No, I can relate to that whenever I'm feeling on creative. Khanate nature just time doing nothing. It gives you ten folds when you kind of sitting behind, you compete so wasting something to come out. Exactly small well, thank you so much for coming on the PODCAST. Keep a having us or Hadley. Wonderful episodes on such beautiful inspiring women I. See that. Love, them messages think such wonderful humans definitely going to be taking on a law that advice I. Think it's very practical I've really pig myself, Kauai? If you'd like to find out more about that books and online causes had written. Share Nights Model Chore Dot Com. Everything discussed today. I really hope you enjoy listening to search. Do let me know by review and sharing on social media. I actually enough gets murky back and it really helps of this. Of Costs and how? Address their G are. Listening of seeing you and another atmosphere of gaps, Ego Glare back Wizar- shit.

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Madeleine Shaw on holistic health and happiness

The Back Up Plan with Alice Judge-Talbot

25:47 min | 1 year ago

Madeleine Shaw on holistic health and happiness

"Hello and welcome. I'm alicja Tolbert author of the backup plan a book that celebrates how to make the best out of Plan Bay there are moments in all our lives when we have no choice but to rethink what future may look like it's in losing sight of this path that can lead us to discover new versions of success to celebrate the fact that we all have a backup plan. I'll be hearing from guests who have discovered magic in unconventional circumstances confound that own version fashion of success and happiness welcome to the backup plan before we hear from main guest. I'm delighted to share a brilliant conversation. I had with one of the many incredible incredible sellers from F._C.. The sponsors of this podcast will learn how at sea has supported their seller's own backup plan so they can grow their businesses built that teams and follow their passions launched in two thousand fourteen. Sincerely Louise has grown from a one go onto a team that now fills orders out of a Sheffield Studio selling a series of fun on Quirky and creative nation kits Louise and the team of passionate about broadening creativity and inspiring people to cross something of their right. When did this Plum Bay a of starting a knitting company become? ILL PLAN A on touted at cease to even not dream. It's my planet which could have been to be a photographer's assistant and work long hours in London for talker. I just had no passionate Dick see supported me really well because after I learnt my fess up kiss on the website they they feature Mueller homepage dot Christmas. I was just taking suitcases of orders to the post of his everyday yeah because of health that little push messy. I'm part of the Sheffield Esi see grooten is such a good community been. What would you say to anyone thinking about starting their own business? Selling Nazi definite recommended is a great platform to be on it gives you the freedom to list as many things one or not you can start with a few things and grow them. I'm still growing my shop every day list like a real creative energy around it. You can find someone that might help you do a logo Louise. Thank you so much for coming to see us today. It's been such a pleasure to meet you. Thank you thank you very much. Madeleine show is a qualified nutritional health coach a chef blogger and trained yoga instructor committed to helping her clients awake in the healthiest and happiest versions of themselves. Madelene is all about ditching the junk and eating foods that make you glow madeline and believes in keeping things simple and delicious and pairing good food with physical activity meditation to stay in Optimum Health Madeline. Welcome thank you so much for joining us is such a pleasure to speak eighteen so I want to kind of talk about your journey but also talk about how we can be well and be happy so first off growing up. What was your plan a so? My plan was to find a job I loved because I grew up in a household. My parents loved work on Sunday. They couldn't wait to start Monday. It wasn't ever about you know hazing. Were doing something from the money or whatever so ponte was to financial beloved but along the way I probably tried most things I was buried at mass right school and so I was like I should probably do something in that and I did those tests and they told me Ashby an investment banker so I tried investment banking and decided it wasn't me that I did intentions and events when I was I did lots of different different jobs from Doku King to frontier designer for yet fashion and I was always like trying to figure out what I was wanting to do in life and it wasn't until I found like food and nutrition which is what I ended up doing and working in the end of my university and now it's like this is what I'm going to do it sort of I dunno through trying lots of different things I figured out what to do. I'm going to interested that you're trying to investment banking because you come across such a calm and kind and lovely lovely presence and I always think it's a bit of a Doggy Dogg weld in finance. Did you find that well. I intend to family friends from that was a smooth <hes> so it probably was a little bit less like however I definitely was the odd one out but I think when you get it something at school automatically think that you should go into something around that and I think I was like Oh. It'd be good to make some money. People who back in banking thinking look normally make money so that's just for the US and then I read is that she wasn't really my passion. I think we say drilled into at school that we have to do kind of like inverted and the good jobs like the lawyer only accountable the finance Passan and I really hope that as the weld is growing that schools teaching kids time pointed it is to have creativity and like you said I think that's such an important lesson from your parents. The in really you're allowed to love your work rather than just go to work for the sake of earning money you know I feel very grateful that my parents taught me lots of things and that was definitely on. I was never very good at anything at school. Any mass came to me very late. This is the last E._S._P._N.. Of Life and I would come home and I said well I'm not I'm not in the top team in anything or in school and I was always bottom of the class and everything and she was very good at smiling smiling will make people like you and then that will help you in life okay. They WANNA keep on smiling. I mean not that my job is to smile but it definitely helps. Why do now say be good either school smiling? I would think smiling every time but that's such a lovely lesson. I think to be taught that you don't have to be academic. You just have to be a good person yeah no. I think the I'm very lucky to have that from my parents but I think going to a private go school. We definitely not taught at that. You're very much like you're the best yeah yeah. That's it so I think hopefully through that violence. I've come out alright talking more about when you were young you've talked about in disgust quite often Changes for the sake of your health so yeah I probably said. It didn't have very good relationship with food growing up. I think it was all very much a control. Oh thing I had a difficult teenagehood. One of my best friends died and then my parents divorced around the same time so it was just a sort of difficult oh cool time where like everything out of control and I decided to use food to control it and I think at the time it was Kate Moss was revered and it was about being very skinny and moved calorie and like so I just kind of went down that like I say like Special K rice cakes you know and then sweet alcohol and it was just not very like I never felt good. I never had very good energy. I think I had was always a bit bit foggy because I was obviously not feeding it with the right like fats and nutrients that it needed and then it was pretty much when I moved to Australia so I went to university in Australia and in one eighteen to twenty two securities so we'll have a New Zealand passport allows me to do this by my father upset that I went to Australia and New Zealand parole life moving across the world. The rifle reruns d. but I just fell in enough with Australia like for me. It's my spiritual home and like I still think about her and would maybe like to live there at some point again. So I I went to university that didn't know anyone but it just watch out for me and I just love the way they've used. How about dieting like I just felt like in the K.. It was like you either on a Diet or you will indulge coaching there was no inbetween and their people still drunk and they still chocolate but every day they were looking after themselves feeding themselves well exercising daily and it was just park their lifestyle and I fell in love with that and I had really bad I._B._S.. At the time I think just because I was eating rubbish and not really off to myself off and I went to see a natural path and she kind of changed my diet and I ended up eating in this cafe so much. They gave me a job yeah. So what was your journey at the cafe. How did that kind of cooking come about. How did you have a coach before was it kind of being jumped in at the deep end very much trump's. Ziv Hand and I think I was just really passionate and I was like I would love to work and they were like it was generally like that and you're there every day anyway you might as well clean and decent things right. It was a gym attached shook cafe and it was all about seasonal produce so they would bring in whatever's in season how to cook something with that and we were making everything scratch through making her in Kifah fermented. You'll get so we look using the culture and getting in the mail can then be making like cheesecakes and we were making like slow cooked roasts and different solids and energy balls and this is when energy bills were not in your by things free quite revolutionary solution and there was a real like community. Everyone knew each other and I just yeah. I loved it. I think that's one thinking unifier between people is kind of food movement. That's could few and interesting and exciting with the kind of food that you do. Do you think there is a big community in a big kind of movement around is still it's so different until I started my blog like now seven years later. The landscapes changed the amount of people out there doing the same sort of thing has changed however <hes>. I still think that food is something that we constantly need inspiration for more. We constantly need every day so we need to be doing it and Kerr her king so I think the way we eat evolved and changed so much and with so much inspired from cultures around the wall. We're maybe trying to promote practical. It's a WHO without kind of busy lives trying to make more efficient and just understanding the importance of cooking and trying different things and <unk> a variety in your diet and eating the same thing every day because I think we got into this yeah. Absolutely I think diet and what you eat is very emotional national and I think a lot of people take religion so if you're eating clean of eating Vegan is you and your life and that she no it's breath it's much more flexible and yeah like veganism my wife you for a while but you might pregnant or you might feel ill and might not work for you and I think you have to be more adaptable so I feel Phil. We need to move to this place. Where like there are no labels. There is no culture and we just eat what we intrusively fail and I there was a movement towards ensures intrusive easing which is really exciting and we've lost that so much because we're bombarded with information of like either stone eat la and I think it just needs to be a fact of trying to eat. I five plus portions of free evegeny other than that. Keep Balance. Keep it interesting. Keep enjoying as well because food needs for enjoyment and I think sometimes uh-huh obsessive nurse. Diet culture can make it restrictive exciting enjoyable and I just don't think that's worth it. Food is as such a big part of our lives and it's really interesting how you said. It's quite emotional because I know that if I ever have a bad day I always eat a jacket potato and cheese. That is my number one on like I love it. I love it just the best meal. I've eaten some really nice places but I would check of potato over any of those places. What do you eat when you feel national. What's your south who yeah I don't have a kind of jacket potato goes to sadly. I feel like I need to get a meal. Go so he's crab is always ready. What do I do when I I think I probably just pick my probably more someone that just takes on the carpet capital. I'm like I'll eat a day and nuts and crackers and like I need to figure out what that meal is probably a better way to do it but yeah. I I think when I'm feeling a bit like stress Deafening Ama- Beverly Pecker and a grazer but it never innocent or as you. It doesn't necessarily make me feel good. I think what I should be doing better as like long walk fash at come home and then cook a meal rather than ten different things that are like all kind of Hinson much easier to pick as a lover of all things unique and special Oetzi is. My shopping playground. It's the marketplace I turn to for cards interiors clothes and jewelry and I'm so happy to be a small business supporting other businesses. Thanks for supporting fourteen this podcast one thing I love about what you do is that you'll kind of holistic with it and it's all about your mind and the way that you feel throughout your body rather than just won't eat so how would you describe that philosophy that you promote. I probably put it into like three peddlers. Three pillows for health has moved much meditate so we already talked about months of from nutrition form but movement as well and I think again with exercise. It's not necessarily following. One thing you don't have to do five causes a week and might be the A run. One day feels good yoga another a day but I think just movement in your day is really important because we often have quite said that she jones is important to move. It's important to be outside outside in the sunshine as well getting fresh getting vitamin D and from the sun and then yeah meditation and mindsets is hoping maybe the better way to describe private but I think that's like almost the most important above them both because that's the motivational factor pool pudding exercising diary the planning of your shopping list your food and stuff and I think if you're not feeling good within yourself it doesn't matter if you're eating well exercising while if you don't feel good about unhealth then what's the point so the mindset of your relationship with yourself which I think is really important and your inner dialogue. I think his one of the the most important things I think the things that we tell us how are like way worse than we'd obviously to our worst enemies so I think rewriting that conversation knowing you're in charge of your thoughts. This is one of the most empowering things you know and I think we always think that like what we think is real but actually it's just it's just the thoughts and it come changed and I think we have to in a similar way to we have to work on nutrition and we have to work on a movement. We will have to work on our mind. We kind of just think INC O.. We'll be fine and we don't need it but whether that's meditation or still life flooring or rock climbing or whatever is to kind of get you out of your head make you feel very present in the moment. Make you feel calm. Give you that use Heim. I think is really important tool to figure out what it is for you. You say that meditation doesn't have to mean kind of sitting and going <hes> because I find that really scary and I can much more easily kind of sit and read a book for half off now. The old guy for walk and I think that's quite true. Lots of people that thought have desisting in silence for an hour not really knowing how to do this. I want to do is quite quite scary yeah well. I think it's probably the achiever and Ye said the thing about meditation is it's about being good and is really hard for people because you can cooking you can be good at rock climbing during congregated meditation yeah you do you don't do it. You know and you have thoughts the meditation I think a lot of people think when you meditate you're just like completely free but meditation the semi different types but I do transcendental meditation. which is you say they of Mantra over and over? You'll be like one word or something that you say in your head and you just say that the twenty minutes I'll be thinking you'll be like what am I going to how for breakfast or you'll be thinking what different things about your mantra and then you think the much much and it sounds ridiculous this amazing and it's so restful. I love it and I totally got the for some people. It might not be right but for me. Do it and it really pitch it benefits. Everyone and it's really something we should all try. How would you recommend that people can try and do how do we do. Is there an APP for meditation. Yeah there's loads so I was. The first thing is that you need to get tell yourself. It's not being good meditation. You will constantly have thoughts during meditation and you don't suddenly got good meditation by doing at one time time time time to get better or find it easier or whatever whatever you want to describe as and you want to step up a level and you're like I.. I love meditational now. It's not working for me this mindfulness thing yeah. It's irritating me then I do think transcendental meditation the Mantra one is fantastic because you don't need to find <hes> you can do whatever you I don't punch you in your bedroom whenever you want. I don't know I just think it gets you to into a deep state of relaxation than the others. Do you think that you will experience in Australia because I know Australia is such an outdoorsy kind of like you said the healthy living place she thing that's a big influence on the way that you now. If you live in the way that you run your business one hundred percent I think it has changed me more with anything ever in my life my experience time that yeah it's definitely sort of been the big inspiration of my job of my outlook con life yeah my attitude to my body to my nutrition to my head space. It's definitely a place that like I'll always remember and like I said I would love to go back again. In time. How has having your son influenced your philosophy about food and wellness. I think it's changed too much. I'm probably just slightly more practical fast pace. I would say probably the biggest thing the I've realized that sometimes wellness and the space the I hope being in is quite difficult and you become mother who you don't have that same time time to like wake up in the morning and like do yoga and then do meditation and then make your breakfast things because you'll like getting kids to school. You're getting address to whatever so I'd probably feel like. It's changing doing everything in a short period of time more compact but then it's made me realize how important portion is because. I feel like if I'm not looking at myself. I'm less patients have less energy. Will these sorts of things I feel like patients. Nations is something have to learn quite fast mother. I will agree on I think I know I'm not exercising eating well. <unk> own meditating or whatever my my two swishes personal to me if I'm not doing those things I'm like way more snap. He is engaged or what was interested nor is present so I find that once I know those things I wanna do I have to be consistent with them and figure out to wake up allier return to his lunchtime not would have those things I need to do to nourish me and nourish them when he's sleeping and then I can kind of give it my all when I am so I think it's is really kind of grounding in on these things and then trying to them in day. I think that's so important when you become a mom to really any when they sleep or when you have time in the evening just to do one thing that saves you kind of grounds you and when he become a mom. I think he'd just kind of lose. Lose a lot of your sense of self so I think it's important to just pat yourself on the back and paint nails or path a bath or read five minutes or something just to make go south. Remember who you is an yeah. I think you want to give and give and it's just I kind of human nature isn't it. It's just ingrained in you want to have a child to be giving but you just have to be on the receiving end as well as you got ta resentful all Lisa things and it's just because you haven't timed it bound and yeah absolutely this is really easy for me say as early having one child or sure as much to you know I find when I went from one to the second one just kind of slots in they manage. We've talked before about how you don't feel the wellness industry SUVs avs moms that well if you could give mums one piece of advice and I'm gonNA basis around tightness because I think that when you become the biggest issue is is that we don't sleep anymore and I mean even my son's seven. He's my youngest. He got into bed with me like it was like musical beds sauce night. I'm lying there thinking. I felt this wasn't supposed to happen anymore. So what advice would you give around wellness and Thomas. If if new MOMS could do one thing to help themselves through this process. What would you say we should do so I would say. It's have like a really good bedtime routine. <hes> thing we treat ourselves light robot so will be like why can't until ten pm what she net flicks till midnight and then we get into bed and we think we're going to fall asleep but is so stimulating for us so in in the way that we pay the babies we need to do that to us house to give yourself a good hour of no electronics because the blue light in your TV in your phone tone in your laptop really disrupts no sense that stops melatonin being produced which a home in the helps you sleep so to have that face and then and just do anything that kind of gets you ready for say that makes them warning that but easier closed laid out kids lunchboxes. Maddie or whatever is it's going to make life a little bit better data winding down taking your makeup doing skin-care regime reading stretching. Leno whatever you lighting in the evening but I think so important to really be strikes on say nine o'clock eight thirty or whatever is that time. I'm not working anymore. I'm not wishing anymore television. I'm commit do more laundry or whatever else you're doing and to give that time to you and it just means that you'll fall asleep foster yet within your firm. Make sure who've really dark no light black lines cool as well as important heat can be destructive. Make us wake in the night you can spray and I spritz or just make really lovely and you can apply these again to your kids then as leafing but I think that makes a difference to get into bed now earlier like he just Phil so much better than you when you wake up in the morning kids get up at five six A._M.. You kind of much more ready for it so I think we don't prioritize plus sleep enough. We have to be disciplined. I think with sleep and vide- make sure that we're going to bed early. I guess in the same way that you were talking about food sleep. Is something else that we do everyday. It's like moving. We just take for granted because it's something we have to do. Every day and sleep is the same we just expect it to happen to us every day exactly and I think we're just we're all very stressed and we're living space lies and Blah Blah Blah but one of the biggest things that we can do is to sleep well and get that quality in deep sleep right now. Everything doing will affect how good night's sleep you know again with foods trying to eat a little bit earlier not too late <music> all these sorts of things or really help for a good night's sleep. You'll be a better mom. You'll be better your job. You'll exercise more efficiently. You'll probably really be more focused on your food choices the next day you know when you have d._v._d.. She all the sugar while there was made Monday so it will just spiral the fat so I have to ask you a question. I've been asking all the interviewees so if time and money and training training and location what absolute object what would you be doing right now. In your life I would be living in Sydney with my family exactly clue what I'm doing all my family my mom my dad. My friends would all be there together this living in Sydney together so I would do everything that we're doing right now but just on the other side of the world. I think the first person actually just saying I would have my family my family come with me really nice. Yeah I would love them. That's like like the biggest factor is like not having family around Yeah Madelynn. I feel like we've got some kind of exclusive from advice. Thank you so much for joining. It's been such I should pleasure to meet you. Thank you very much so if you're feeling inspired to make the most of your backup plan great. This is just the start with love to no. You'll thoughts about the backup plan so please leave us a review erasing. I'm for all your weekly updates hit the subscribe button before I go. 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Ep. 172: Throwback Epsiode! Makeup Artist Kristofer Buckle

Fat Mascara

1:06:50 hr | 1 year ago

Ep. 172: Throwback Epsiode! Makeup Artist Kristofer Buckle

"Hey guys jess. Jen is on her honeymoon in botswana lot swan <hes> i mean i can't i cannot handle it. I'm living vicariously through her instagram's. So here's the scoop. We couldn't record an episode because it's just like letter live. She held to anyone and i wanted to present to you. One of our throwback episodes was one of our faves. Hope you enjoy and and we will be back next tuesday. Hey fat mascara fan. It's jen guess where i'm talking to you from. I'm laying on my buffy breeze comforter. It's one hundred percent plant based design and so it's breathable and doesn't get all hot and sweaty and gross like some comforters. Also i love that its earth friendly. It's made with eucalyptus in and out no feathers and you know eucalyptus grows with ten times less water than cotton so that's great for the environment. It's also hypo allergenic and best of all. If you don't like this thing you can return it for free you get the comforter are tried on your bed. You don't love it. You send it back to the company they go. If you wanna try your own buffy comforter you can get twenty dollars off. You are welcomed. That's right twenty twenty dollars off. Go to buffy dot co. That's u. F. f. y. dot c._o. And enter the code fat mascara for twenty dollars off your buffy comforter. We're back. Yes we are. It has been way too long long way too long. I am so happy to be back. Welcome to fat mascara. I am jess. I'm still jin for american listeners. I'm thankful for you. I hope everybody had a great thanksgiving. Oh yeah this is a global podcast so you know for our non-american listener sorry to peace out last week but we had to take a couple of days off to this year fans c._f._m.'s. I also moved so that was <hes> special. Oh that's right yeah. How did the move go still going but yes. We are now safely in our new apartments government so engaged to engage still have a cat still have a cat mazen yeah so everything's good but let's talk about this week's episode so we've got a lot of cool topics. Ondeck what we have jen yes. Let's talk about beauty so old school hair products that are making a comeback. I've seen a few jesse nephew. We'll fill you in then. It's wrapping season not hypothesis package wrapping the beauty industry has this obsession lately with over packaging and i want to talk about mhm lastly milia. Everybody's friend millea. She's like that girl from seven degrade doesn't go away in dermatological condition as little white bumps around your eyes and we're gonna talk about it after that. It'll get much more glamorous. I promise the glam quotient sionist through the roof. We have the fabulous the glamorous christopher buckle one of my favorite makeup artists and he is here to talk about <hes> all of his amazing work with some of the biggest divas in the biz. The gender shahidi win. One of your products is discontinued. Yes yes. We've talked about this. It happens all the time. Will it definitely happens across all categories makeup nail fragrance but you know i feel a hair as such a very passionate space and a lot of times people will hunt down there discontinued hair products online and i was doing a little research for the segment and i found a lot of discontinued hair products on ebay. Some hair like mine on ebay do valley valley hershberg glamorous. Oh yes we talked about whenever i see. It and i remember how i told you the price keeps going up and up and it was seven ninety nine. I think it walgreen okay used to be for sale and now i have to buy right online. How much is it. It's up to like seventeen ninety nine bottle. Oh well amir bargain because some folks are paying on ebay for their evita veta- elixir. Oh this is i. I'm not sure what the centers but this one is even. It's not even brand new this eighty five percent foale so this is a this is partially used daily leave and hair conditioner and it's just a shot of this someone's kitchen table lovely two two hundred thirty dollars. We discontinued a product. Yeah partially used so that's that's that's charming. <hes> there is a bumble and bumble a little wax little like a little bombs. They'll make the sumo wacko. This isn't the sumo wax. This is a little tin. Remember this mom yes yes yeah. This bad boy is retailing for one hundred ninety. At least this was not been used but discontinued hair products are a real you. You know industry online. We know that some have been resurrected recharged. Yes so we learned about <hes> nexus has has re reissued their catholics. Did you use it back in the day. I did it because next this was like fancy and like we only got an access like once in a while while and my mom's like colored permed hair. It wasn't eleven year. All has the lake jerk. I was into salons selected line l._a. L._a. Looks baby l. a. Look for a dollar ninety nine for a gallon of gel but i do remember thinking when my mom bought nexus like i remember sneaking a little bit of it because i was like this is luxury baby but cara fix is back and they were they talked about at the event and this was like a few weeks ago about how they knew that this huge colt follow it. Yeah it's a protein ricans. Damage-repairing treatment and i feel like a lot of brands ends are doing this. They remember they have this heritage but the thing is they don't always bring it back exactly the same so you have to be really careful careful obviously better now than it was. I feel like some the people they see the reissue and they're like oh. My favorite product is back but it's changed with the celtics. They're doing the whole line. They have shampoo conditioner the treatment and a mask this this is all coming out next month and extra excuse me in january. Yes i wrote about it in america one i found i know you're excited about this because you said my hair looked really good. Remember emmer back in the day use. The body shop's banana hair. Ask and if correct me if i'm wrong but i remember it having like chunky banana in it was legit legit banana. It was like mashed banana which is always a hair mask fix that people always i y so then in two thousand one away for a while and then in two thousand eleven it came back with with a banana shampoo and conditioner and i think the mask is more recently. Just come back and that's what i was using. I look what i brought you as i can't believe this. I'm so excited because i wanted all new toilet the scent. Yes going to bring you back. This is so ran <hes> from and this the the positive is it's like the fair trade trade bananas now so sometimes when they come back. I feel like they're like okay. I really like the idea of it we can do. It even better yeah. This is a nice social responsibility angle whether it be on the tub tonight you know what's another one though and this is interesting so some people they bring it back and they redo it and everybody's mad because it's not exactly the same so paul mitchell. Did something interesting remember our apu he now i know how to say thank god our who he was like the jam back in the day this shampoo. I think there was a conditioner too yeah. They revamped revamped the line. There's an hour who ginger not lying now and it has this complex and it's fabulous antioxidants all that good stuff but i think because people were so nostalgic they also still sell their original which coming in for some people but i like that yeah yeah people would like your brand more and especially if they're clear about it because they say okay. This is the abu he ginger and here's the original. If you're really like not wanting to spend two hundred fifty dollars on ebay on it hit us up and let us know if you're using you know if either you buy discontinued products online or if you want to resurrect one of your ooh campaign we'll do scaring guiding. We know people people in the industry. We can make it happen. We know people info at meadow people exac info mascara dot com little insomnia little boxes made up ticky tacky little boxes little boxes dollars saying and the green and the blue adeane and they're all made out of ticky tacky and they in the beauty industry has again been shuki by racked dot com. It just got a biblical people. It has been shook wreck. Dot com does such amazing reporting and they have the story that just came out last week by elisa brooke and it's called the headline is we received ninety five thousand dollars worth of free he stuff in six months and it's about how much you know how many how many samples and free products and swag that the editors there air got honestly. I'm surprised it wasn't more than ninety five thousand dollars just knowing how much how many samples and everything the products value to the products value you and then if it free gym bag or xactly yeah okay and they meticulously i mean if you read the article and we'll post to <hes> will include a link on our blog <hes> <hes> you can read it. It's really extensive. The reporting is absolutely fantastic. Another podcast that we love pop fashion mentioned this story as well. It's really we like that compelling and they raise an issue that jen and i talk about all the time which is how much packaging comes with all this and i i should say right away that this issue is brought up in the reporting so there's so much like to use like a cliche term and like no pun intended. There's so much to unpack here. I'm just going to really focus in on this but let me just backtrack a little bit they. They have this amazing info infographics. I really urge you know. If you have time to like check out this article they listen the things that comes with bubble wrap styrofoam cardboard boxes ice packs. That's a big one because the food or something that's perish a lot of these new probiotic face masks and things they need to be refrigerated. Yeah ribbons packing confetti that i'm so bad well the good you can use it for just sizzle. Sizzle sizzle is it's. Is that like little crinkly accordion shit that gets everywhere yeah <hes> cosmetic bags canvas tote bags branded boxes within the cardboard packing packing peanuts cooler bags shopping bags with balloons tied to the handle <hes>. There's so many more things but i'm not going to keep going then they say ed. This is really compelling. Including the original packaging the swaggie received weighed one thousand one hundred the eighty two pounds. That's about as heavy as a polar bear the packaging alone we three hundred nine pounds. That's about as heavy as a pacific white sided dolls. It's a low carbon output that you're putting out to send us products. We tried our best to recycle. It said the editor at racked yeah. I can tell you firsthand and i'm not gonna name names of the companies i worked but the companies i've worked have not always had adequate recycling yeah for for these things. It's it's not always that problem. I work at hearst and we've separated out. We have three recycling bins and we absolutely do it but some of this packaging is like it's like metallic foiled over and cardboard and and they're like glued together and you can't recycle that or the shammar styrofoam there's so much tariff up so the question that lisa and karen at pot fashion russian-raised which is what i'm sorry this long winded but you know what i think. The super important we've talked about in other editors have talked about all the time of at breakfast at events. Etcetera era is how to how to brands for april. Stop deal with this but how green brands deal with this kind of thing and i it's a problem that i don't have the answer for but i don't think that this kind of thing is really the way forward i personally be more likely to use and write about a brand that i know was thinking about the environment when they were packaging so for example like that new love beauty planet line coming out from unilever <hes> <hes> the recyclable bottles coming in january. It's in january or like you think about fiji water whatever cost like five dollars but remember how they made the bottles like square so you could fit more into a box instead of a round button model as a consumer and as a beauty editor. I'm looking for that kind of thing. I think yeah i think hopefully those brands will influence fluence other brands within their own larger companies and so on but i'm also hoping that just on a bigger scale companies you know the decision engine makers and those companies whoever they are sometimes it's publicists. Sometimes it's the clients sometime you know everyone. You know who's involved will start to think you know. Is this actually a great move to put like ten pounds of sizzle or styrofoam. I realized sometimes you can't help but so we could. We could start a hashtag conducive boxing on bar today because a lot of these editors influencers wanna do like a boxing video. Yeah that's part of the it's a it's like it's kind of like it's kind of this vicious cycle and i think right now. It's a it's a cool time. I think people are a bit more aware and i think in a few years. I'm hoping that we're gonna see less of less excess. I don't think people really need all those flip flops and canvas bags and they noticed swag hashtag correct there you go. They knew in boxing. I realized this doesn't apply to every listener by any means what's going on in our business even as a consumer you watch those videos in those those products so you know all right. That was our p._s._a. To the world right there from jenin jess you're welcome hashtag industry news ma ma ma ma chicken listener question okay tiny white dots around my eyes what the hell is with that bumpy be bumpy but not like zits we could honestly guys we get this question like on the rig every week or two and every time i say the same thing. I think it's million you have to go to be sure but is that what you're talking about. Have you ever had milia. I think i had one but then it went away so could it have been milia. Well you know dr jen. Dr goldstein says that if it's milia they're actually cysts the i talked to a while ago i talked to dr neil sadiq about this when i was doing a story three and he's causing like type like if they feel like they have a little like they're teeny tiny but they still a firmness to them. Okay and what it is is an overgrowth of the subconscious gland so that's like you know what subconscious is oil sebnem. That's right also called sibusiso hyperplasia lovely anyway they they look. They don't look good. You're conceal goes on and then you still have bumps chicken skin and especially around your eyes. There's lots of gland under there and that's what's going on. Did you have yours removed. No i mean it just kind of like disappeared on a couple of weeks. So that's why i don't know maybe it was a little bit. Maybe was who knows typically though you they don't disappear you do go to to derm to get you know rule. They do a little slow and i had a friend who just had it done and you can feel a little pop comes out with the little lancet and it comes out and you're good to go. There is not really a cream or anything that will get rid of them. I heard from a like an esthetician that if you're using being really heavy eye creams you can give yourself milia yet because it helps yeah. It's an make sense. I'm sorry i misspoke. It's not a lancet. It's an electro coterie. It's that thing like burns it off. Have you ever had anything. I had it done with like a little mole once and they like and remember when i did my okay no more d._i._y. Dermatology anyway. If you have little white bumps around your eyes you really do need to go to the doctor fraction laser or the little cauterize her thing to get rid of them and maybe moisture is less around your eyes because that really can aggravate them. It's sponsor appreciation time. I'm jen jess. 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Go to modern fertility dot com slash fat mascara. Take fertility quiz and you get twenty dollars off again. It's modern fertility dot com backslash fat mascara <music> uh <music>. We're here with christopher. Buckle the only person who has made me pee my pants and my office. That's just talking by the way yeah no. You've made me laugh so hard and you also taught me some really cool tricks which will get into later but i'm so glad we call you because you are a very a busy man. You're very hard to pin down with. Celebrities like blake lively changes jessica chastain christina aguilera uh-huh. You're very naturally busy but since you're mariah carey's go-to guy and it's christmas time well you know what that means. I mean like you're. You're booked like you're out of commission. I didn't think we'd get you. I mean you're working with the christmas. Queen will some days chain moved around and then i remember that we were going to fatima scar and than i was never available and i was just like a hello. Can we come on. Did you tell mariah look. We've got fat mascara. Put away your jingle. I was gonna cancel the show so that you can go do new fatten skara with jessica your makeup artist which i don't think we even celebrity makeup aw more basie lately for some reason because i'm getting over a cold. It is very sexy to like. I do so what is it. We're going to get into like the scope of your career. I just have to get like my kind of like us. Weekly kicks out right now. Okay my e e. Whatever network kicks out. What is it like working with. Mariah carey just indulge me well working with since just before butterfly album was released the john but sure album. I've known for over twenty years and she's fun. She you know people are always like like busting on her and really giving her a hard time but honestly we like laugh about every like we really do laugh about everything and she's always joking about herself. <unk> herself and people don't realize that she's in on it like she's. She does things just because they are funny like she is perpetuating the stereotypes that joe because like when she he was on crabs and she was in her he'll course the treadmill she's in. She's like derek better. Give them one and she's she's in on the joke for sure. Now you that kind of perfection you're known for that. I mean every person you work with. I've never seen you. I mean maybe i don't know someone on your roster. That is super grungy engy or super avant-garde but every person that i know of has this really polish glamorous look. Where does that come from. I think that my aesthetic nick i. I don't happen to my the artists that i work with all the actresses that i work with. I happen for them so they have a theme. They have an idea they have a feeling feeling that they want to get across and then i help them realize it but my aesthetic does come into play because i my in my world stars are untouchable and i think that as a kid growing up before i got into this business i loved the aspiration the aspirational <hes> quality to that. I didn't want to meet the stars. I wanted them to be other worldly. So i think that winstar i like my stars to where colors that other people wouldn't want their lips to be as perfect as possible like i don't want to look like the girl next door lashes we thicker and longer and their hair to it'd be impossible and you know like my idols yeah. I loved marlene dietrich to me. She was just the most gorgeous glamorous clamorous woman that would stop at nothing so that it looked that way she would do anything she would glue something to inner cheek. If it made her cheekbone higher you know what i mean like she you just stop at nothing and i appreciate that kind of commitment to glamour and an effect because it doesn't have to be you know all this natural beauty crap that people talk about well. Most people are not naturally beautiful and i'm known for working with really talented people not people that were born beautiful like models but they are in a situation an environments in which they have to compete with these natural beauties and they are being compared it to them so that's where i come in and i have to just take what they are an elevated and featured in the best possible way. You helped me. I was just gonna say. It's totally just in my i know you know the way you're describing it. It just kind of reframed the makeup artistry in this way that i don't. I can't believe i didn't really see it that way. You're you're making celebrities. Who are yes of course there. They don't look like the average joe but they're not models and you're like let me put you on this playing field and kind of demented world. We live in with the giselle of the world. I'm just pick yourself. Someone someone maybe us maybe our listeners like what is a key thing that makes you look like done and glamorous and expensive. I feel like even if i put on a ton of makeup. I'd still look like me you you. You should still like you should look like a super. Best version of yourself you know and for every person is a recipe. There's some people there eyebrows eyebrows centric and so the eyebrows are very important and if the eyebrows are just done this way then it just makes everything everything else falls into place and if their lips or just done a little bit fuller or a little bit rounder then suddenly it's a little recipe of little ingredients that together make someone look. There are absolute best. How can we identify for listeners. What that thing is is asking a friend. Is it just like don't ask friends because most of the time they're jealous. No sabotage advertise you. I would never do that to pluck your eyebrows. I think he should shave your hairline back door. Just just now. I think that if people if you get a compliment on something and on on a regular and you've heard of the few times and you know it's a feature that stands out and i always say magnify what that is so if everyone always has always gonna so beautiful and it's not try a highlighter. You know draw attention to it. Maybe pay attention to cleaning it up with a little bit of concealed here and they're just so that there's nothing distracting from how gorgeous it is. If people talk about your is make sure that your tight lining your i am curling <unk> where mascara every day. I can't stand. I mean to me there's nothing offensive than a human being without makeup on their face because to me i don't care i mean i'm a makeup person. That's my business. That is what i do and i encourage everyone to use it as much as possible because it's a tool that women have that can change the way people see you. It can change the way people react to you. It changes the energy of of what's how you move through life and also puts out a message before you say one word. You think you are important. So what do you say to people who. I'm sure there are people listening saying. What is this guy saying. I'm beautiful the way i am. Does your mother tell you that. No this is the thing we all know that inner beauty is the most important thing but when and you walk down the street and no one and people don't get to know you they don't know how beautiful you on the inside so you have to sometimes convince people from the outside and trapped them in there no but it's wearing makeup is really you really. It's not necessarily hiding. I don't like them. People think that makeup is concealing and and disguising <unk> ising. It's about celebrating. It's about featuring turn like changed the way you look at it. Because it really is a celebration i mean painting your mouth. Read is not concealing anything and again the way we look as human beings. When you wake up in the morning you come out of the shower that is luck and an jeans. That's what the combination of your parents and and luck and the role of the dice but and that's not really who you are. That's it's it's who you are is on the inside and make you can use to express that <hes> you know it's like you can color hair. You can cut it. You can change the shape of your browser to have different expression. You express who you are. We really are you work with so many discerning women. What have you learned from them. I mean it could be beauty trick. It could be like outlook on life could be diet tips like learn so many things i mean the exposure i mean you're teaching them things too but but like just the exposure you have to these women's unbelievable. I don't know the demographic of your listening audience but far and wide well. I've worked with an margaret. I've worked with catherine to nerve. I've worked with twiggy. I've worked with so many like liza. Minelli like just endless amounts for the great. I really have worked with some of the most iconic women of our time and i have learned all sorts of little the bits and pieces because each face has lesson you know every face has it's like for instance stockard channing. She played rizzo in the movie grease. We're familiar. I'm just saying for listening. We're all together here on this. She had taught me this way of doing her lips that you know her mouth turns down a little bit and she taught me this way of like just pencilling her lip her upper lip little bit kind of like marilyn monroe did it's like adding a little triangle little flip almost a little wing on the top lip out and then on the outer corners of the top and then and then don't bring the lip all the way two on the bottom corner kind of short change and it brings them out up into a pleasant little smirk and it made a really beautiful difference and that's something but but then years go by never used a trick again but then suddenly there's somebody who may be corners of their mouth turned down a little bit and you can just usual stockard channing terrific and there it is that's like instant like filler for the lips. The green win the kind of just turn up but there's so many gosh josh. I'm just trying to think i mean there's just so many little things that through the years you just absorb from all these women attitude or something that i don't know just kind like stuck with you or like any kind of life lessons something that i thought was really fun and this is maybe not answering the question but when i did catherine to nerves make up i was doing in her in a hotel suite so as it was a big dining room table so those nowh- mirror around and my knees and doing her makeup and she's on the phone orange smoking and she's reading things and finally i was finished and i said would you like to go to the mirror with me and take a look. If you want me to change anything because it's perfect it and i'm like having looked at it and she's like i could feel it okay and i was like aw i thought that was like my favorite thing yeah. I think that someone said i love that yeah. He knows oh she knew she could. She just could feel that it was right. So i feel like you do these women. Who have these experiences. None of us will ever have like. I'm never gonna need to be on stage and be blotted within fifteen again but i i don't know that that might happen but yet you're able to translate it so the regular woman like even with your products that you make yes. Where does that come from. Is that like a lot of these makeup ours that work with really famous people they don't care about us regular folk and they're just like whatever i only do the best and i work backstage and i'm an artiste. What is it that makes you want to like. Make it something we can do to what ended up happening. Is that the artists that i work with. Sometimes i'm not available and it's for their everyday everyday life. They're like i would. How do i make myself. Look like you make made me look when i was because my sister mr is always like every time it will make counter. They sell me all the stuff and then it's never right or just like selling trendy. Things and my friends are always asking me so. I was like you know what when i do this line. I'm going to approach it so that everybody can do it and it's based on my my techniques and everything in all my knowledge for all over thirty years of doing this and <hes> that's how i approached the whole thing. It's based on products at work doc but also designed so that you can just get the effect that i get kind of breaking it down a little bit yeah so you might have to do. I could just with a flick of my wrist because it's been doing the same thing for so long. I can get this effect but maybe you have two steps and you'll get the same you think of that eyeliner product that you're like you. You were obsessed. Oh the it was a trick trick or stunt double liner. It's a it's a liquid liner pen on one side and on the other side. There's an eraser pen yet. You freaked out. I remember we talked about on the tower yeah because even me as a as a make onset and i've got a paint like a a lot of times. People don't know this but when you're shooting there's like a you know a time crunch and so a lot of times. If you're doing a music like just add a little bit more. We need a little bit more. I or whatever wing it out so i have to do it on set and we are human beings we breathe. We move you know the person that you're working on his also moving so i realized that i need something like i can't stick a q. tip in my mouth and then wipe it underneath. Someone's i surely done a bad accident wants out of reflex. No i haven't really professional. I think that by accident no okay all right and so. I figured it would be really great if it had like a wet q tip on one end so it's kind of like having this eraser on the other end. It's with makeup remover on it. I love that you'd like into to like spit a bit on cue tips. That's exactly what i've seen so many women do their own makeup by doing that's exactly what i watch my sister to it and has always always cue tips and in her ashtray and from long island s new jersey i don. I grew up in hicksville bethpage high school school. Are you a soft top makeup artist or did you go to like a beauty school and i didn't got abused i. I'm a self taught makeup artist. I started doing make up when i was. Maybe i was obsessed with make planning for halloween in june. I was a punk rocker. Then when i was starting when i was about thirteen and so i was it's very painted and i got thrown out of school all the time for being very made up and wearing very elaborate clothing and i would also make and then i started going out to nightclubs and i remember i was in penn station most glamorous place you're in hot dogs the water just so good and this woman stopped on the escalade and she was like who did your makeup yup and i was like i did and she goes here. Take my card. Call me after eight o'clock tonight because we didn't have cell phones in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and greasy pay phones yeah so i called her from my house phone and she gave me a job and i ended up working at the metropolitan opera my god and then patricia field yes. Patricia field came up to me at a nightclub that i was working at and she said yoga work for me. You're gonna run on my makeup counter. That's awesome so i worked on eighth street at the original store and i worked there for a while and i had a brief thing with music and then i we- we're the musician i sang okay. You said perform weird but it was bad but i did it. Whatever ever you could look it up on youtube. So i went icon. I k o of course but anyhow then blah blah blah fast forward a little bit <hes> i was working at an agency representing hair and makeup artists so it was one of the biggest agencies in the city represented garin surgeon amonte laura merci francois is new york new york. Yes and i worked at three the year's opening the door for people going to the deli and buying sandwiches going to the bank whatever sending out mailers and one day the phone rang and it was an emergency law. Mercy needed an assistant on set for american vogue <hes> shoot that she was doing with steven meisel and so we had to search for somebody to run and do it and we couldn't and so i went. Did you immediately think i could do this or were you not even in the mindset set i. I didn't know what an assistant did. I thought an assistant cleaned brushes and put oil on legs like i thought that was it and i got to induced your studios where the shoe was happening and we really did try to find somebody to go and i was just the fillon and laura was like hello christopher. This is kate <hes> <hes> just use any of my makeup my brushes and go into lebron's eae and nude lip and she was doing amber for lettuce makeup and i had to to kate moss's asses makeup. Oh this is kate. I was in a cubicle into florescent lighting job twenty minutes twenty minutes earlier. Uh no pressure. I thought i was gonna cleaning brush or something and i'm doing kate. Moss's makeup and i can try and i kept i was getting i guess powder in her. I whatever and and i was like setting under her she was like oh you get empowered on my. I and i'm like oh. I'm sorry i'm sorry i'm doing your makeup to your cup and i'm talking on freaking <unk> out and again. She was like you powder meal. I said shut up getting trouble. Don't let laura of that poor girl. She went on set and the girls went on set when they're ready. I know she looked good but <hes> stevens said laura. I love the way he did. Cates is can you do ambrose's like that and you're now. I got a little nervous but laura did something that a lot of people would not do. She said i didn't indicates makeup christopher classy of her very classy generous and cruel sweet and trust me. Most people would not do that. Yeah so stephen took note and he had me go with laura to her other jobs you know that she had with him for like maybe a month we that was stevens called say chris <hes> to do that and then a few weeks later or so my boss called me and said he called called me at home and he was like what did you do today. Onset was i'd worked with laura and i was like i don't know i don't know and i was sure i'd said something inappropriate exactly and she was and he was like i do wrong. Why and he goes well stephen. My office just called. You must have done something very right because they just books you for the cover of italian vogue your own job and i was like with laura how that's so cool and he's like no just you by yourself. Amazing seizing and then all over very i was just like just has to be a mistake. I'm not ready. I was like i gotta buy makeup uh-huh. Did you ever go back to doing what you were doing like. Never i was always very smart to know that certain opportunities are one way doors so you step into a a certain doorway and there's no going back because if you do you go back then you ruin it you undo the magic so just like when i step through that door to be on set with laura. I didn't go back really to the office office and then even at that first time you like it. When you had more times laura like you weren't going out office laura out office or maybe a little but when that door open for italian vogue. I didn't assist laura again and i think she was upset about that but i just knew that. If i then just being assistant i bet she's proud of. I am very i'm very appreciative of her and her generosity and i always i don't forget one person that helps me. I've had like i'm. I'm a person and like i had a homeless person. Give me two dollars so that i could eat nineteen ninety before while you were like doing music nick in temping and all the hours living on saint marks place i was living like a gypsy getting evicted from one apartment to the next with my friends who and there was this woman is homeless woman and she said on at cooper square by the cuban on a blanket with oliver dogs and my friends sue and i would always like give her for some money and give her a cigarette or we would say we're going to go eat something but we're going to cut our burrito and half and we'll put it aside that you could you know that kind of relationship with but a few days in a row went by and we didn't have a cigarette for her and we couldn't give her anything to eat and so finally she was like you're right. When was the last time you wait. I was like well. It's been a couple of days and she goes hold on a minute hold on a minute and she dug through all these plastic bags and she pulled out a marlboro box with her emergency two dollars and she gave it to me. That's really nice and so we went down on sixth avenue and we bought as many bagels we could get and we sat on her blanket with her and we ate bagels and i seriously at that moment was like this better be the lowest point because i just took money from homeless for this. This is not a good trend upwards from there one way doors of course yeah so. I'm very appreciative of your story. Also makes me think of you said put on makeup because you wanna put your best self out in the world and two ways that you discovered because you look good when you went out in the world like you had on your your face and people notice yeah. I mean look just about that. Inner beauty. I was an actor. I was a singer but you don't walk down the street acting and singing right. We'll see if people could see that. I could paint the crap out of face so those opportunities just kept up revealing themselves to me. Can we talk about painting the crap out of the face. Oh pleats we are just the tip. That's my tip okay. Let's talk about as a woman gets on in in years and more mature woman like old. I actually sure all. Do you think that you need less makeup. I hear that sometimes for makeup i yeah i think that that is a terrible. I okay so tell me what all the time like. Yeah like. Only get doesn't want to get settled in the lines or less founding foundation he by here getting again and no i hear no shadow. I hear no what is this madness six correct. Tell us what are you know. Those are just the young girls nervous that they know that a woman always wins over a girl yeah so they're just again. Sabotage sabotage news that you need to approach makeup as you as your skin changes and you get more texture on your skin ak rink okay but he went there but i like the way is that no. Let's just keep it real because yeah yeah texture. It's less confusing if you call it what it is yours and wrinkles poison wrinkles and sagging bagging and all that stuff dryness so the thing is that if he's more strategic so you're is absolutely need makeup. Okay tight lining inside your upper. Lash line bulking that is something that you will need to know you better. Get good at it now girls because as you get older you need it more and more and more. You're a tight line well. You'd better learn because you're is in particular would be amazing. That's like when you do the island around the waterline but not on the water line water line. It's above the waterline literally where the lashes grow out of your upper in-between the lashes. How do you poke in there with a little hoc anything around your roy how do you how do you tight line. Christopher aggressive take a flat of wedge brush or a flat square brush and you just can use a gel l. Liner okay waterproof is better stays put and just put your head back in the mirror and just you it takes a little practice but then you just have it right in the root of your eyelashes before you do your mascara okay i could do that then you curly lashes and then you jim skara that immediately lifts your eyes and it gives your eyes definition an impact impact without using real estate so it's not gonna look. It's not going to be like eyeliner on your eyelid. That looks like make your secret makeup sag a little yeah britain's your eyebrows are super important as you get older because they're going to thin out they might even pale pay attention to your eyebrows getting lighter because a darker eyebrows actually shauwie assign of it's more younger look so you can pencil then fill the men shadow them in die them whatever but make sure that they're a really really clean shape because the more manicured yards you get older the just the better everything. Is you know there's other things become vague so the more specific you make your make. Oh aw hey the better you hair gets greyer. Your features get soft or you're right yeah a little bit. Also your your skin. You definitely need blush. Okay because it's just we tend to get a little bit paler and sallow and things as we get older conceal her. You need a nice conceal around your eyes to lift your eyes clean them up. You're just look at me. Damn make fooling around. We have corrected laughing. Moore's clean them off. I'm like oh my god. It sounds like a big old mess to clean up. Now you gotta keep the thing is that when the thing you really need to wear makeup. It's just as you get older. They don't fall into that trap of not wearing will look older make up his tool to give you back with nature is to in time's take. Don't listen to the young women that you don't have to purple eye shadow shadow on what about the lips the lips what lose volume we all know that right but what kind of lake counter-act our teeth get darker so we need to be bleaching bleaching teeth on top of the stuff. You don't have to rebuild yourself. If you're maintaining still get lazy with yourself critic spoliation airline airplanes havoc video like i can only see so crusty dry skins wouldn't even believe what i'm seeing in hollywood and that's not a hard problem to fix. We have plenty of products alex. You got a you have a sugar bowl and you have some honey. Just slaps them in your hand atl water on your face a smooth sheet on and but you see all these things make a difference. Can we talk about lip liner. Is this something that every woman should be using no. I mean just the old ones yeah because i have a lip liner and always use it and then when i use emiko this is quite nice will it is quite nice. Now isn't it. They can add volume a lot easier with a pencil and it'll stay put better than if you're using lipstick alone and also your lip line and can get more vague as getting bigger. It's not specific anymore. You need a specific lip for also the color fresh rush on older people because it makes your teeth look the balloonist senate. Look a little bit lighter but it's also as a freshness to the complexion without it being like red red lipstick and red red lipsticks can look great on people to even and if you just put your hair back where red lips and some scattered like little highlighter hood on the makeup unique if you're you're being fooled. Just tell me you you also said speaking about moisturizing the this is this is a great okay. Did you tell you to put it. I interviewed you like ten years ago for laura magazine a and it was like this article is like weird eight anti-aging trick. You told me that like i think it was like the office celebrity taught you. This are utah to celebrity. Don't forget to moisturizes your ear. Your ear lobes for some reason. I feel like sharon in stone was involved in this conversation but maybe like. Did you work with sheriff so i have i did a lot of cure ads with our said like you always put moisturizer on her the era when you know what it is people like we really have to not put a barrier up when it comes to skin-care. Your skin is one one thing it's everywhere. It's you're largest oregon. Most men like to not believe that it's one of those things that you you know it's like you have to just keep that thing juicy and moist and delicious yet the keeping exposure. You don't have to my favorite tip. I'll never forget but you gotta you got it got it got it and also people don't put foundation on their ears when they're pulling their hair back. It's hard to see your ears. I see them from over here. I'm just teasing you tiny kate years but the thing is a lot of times people wear their hair down all through the summer and stuff and then they pull their hair back and your ears are pale because they've been under your hair and then your skin on your body and your face has gotten a little bit of tan or whatever so if you have pale ears they're going to photograph photograph brighter and so they're gonna look bigger on the red carpet. I'm always really careful to make sure that everything is one color another thing. Is you know we talked about the stars and we talk about regular people and but today every every one of us is being photographed. More than people have ever been photograph now lives essentially. There's so many phones everywhere so it's really you need to be photo ready because it's happening every day. You're in a photo shoot of some kind every recent one of us bs and you know look how cute i have a really cute without your lipstick eating and drinking that stupid green shake and my office cameras how much aww shake look if they had read lips off. It's so true really pop on instagram. You know how are you like. What are you camera ready all the time like what are you and what are you doing 'cause. It's thirty years less than natural no but i thought you were like maybe thirty no no. I am forty nine okay and our producer jackie mcchord accused fell off her chair. She's on the floor. She's on the floor. They he looks twenty-seven yourself away unlike the kripke amazing no okay. Obviously you're moisturizing. What are some of your favorite products. I really love anything greasy and i think that people are so pimples these days it's like what are you kidding. Just clean your face exfoliating good like sugar scrub yes but also use like a redneck or something you know prescription retinoid. Yes i could burn a a hole through my pillow. That's just as like a rhinoceros. She says i'm not afraid like i like yeah. I needed to do what it does but i do where where do retin-a at night. I explicitly it twice a week and you with <hes>. You would hate to even hear what i actually. I use a scotch bright. Pad the green side. I've been using it since twelve years old. What listeners do not do this. When you scour your pans with will i don't scour orban okay. I'm a diva thicker skin than we ladies right but my point is no no don't go out and buy one thousand nine hundred pot scrubber and use it on your face like i do not going off and you buy that. Are you. Dwayne reed buying. They're totally yes. I thought he was kidding. It's this thing from so and so and it looks like oh. That's exactly what it is. I do what does that. What could the average person the situation no the buff. I mean you could try. They still make something like that. They make cheaper versions too but <hes>. I think that the sugar honey thing is a good thing and you don't have to like aggressively but you could do it for a longer amount of time but more gently strong five minutes we said you make people look expensive and glamorous morris clara sonic and inexpensive <unk> later. He's like oh a scotch. I used to wash my face. Oh you do okay uh-huh twice a day. Want want to get twice a day. Yeah god why it just feels like a lot of exploitation happening on your well. Look how good he looked forty nine. I need to be exfoliating off twenty two years so that people yeah and then i after i wash my face i spray it with some you know rose water and then i put on greece literally like deathly or night bomb in the morning and night. I used that one of office lovely but i use that kind of heavy he stuff. I also use shea butter and mango seed butter and heavy things like that. What's going on with your brow situation. And how are they waxed filled. Pull the hair. I wish i was a harry greek man with a two inch forehead i can have yes and but no i have have severe brow envy people but <hes> these are completely artificial they are. I have a product called brow champion. That's that's the chris christopher buckle line top seller q._v._c. and it's <hes> that's what this is. This is the blonde. I'm sorry for not being familiar. Is it a pencil joe. It looks like a little inc well and it's a palm aid on the bottom and then there's two <hes> tope shadows yet i used to set over that and to build the three dimensional looking brow and then there's a little brush in the in the lid that i used to do it lovely but it's a top seller and people love it. I love just f- in my favorite product from your line right. Now is the browser. It's absolutely warming powder patterns. Why do we call it. A powder. Not lebron's will lebron's or has is is more dense and has more pigment in it. These are less pigmented so they have transparency to them so that you can get a warmth to your complexion without an aggressive attack of bronze. That's gonna go on unevenly so it's like a pressed powder but just like a warmer skin tone than regular scan. It looks when you look at it can look like a bronco as two shades there's light and deep and but they go on at fifty percent so you can go like you know how you dip into bronze or sometimes you like whoa whoa whoa hey buddy tap yeah. It's like no tried it back in the day one that was like there used to be something when i was growing up in the seventies called indian earth in that little it was a little vessel work. I think it's still around and they convinced all all of us that we could sprinkle a little on that cork bronze ourselves line. Our is our hair and you clean paints. It's our our nails with a clear co polish over like it was oh and then you put on your lips and put some lip on the applicator. It was the it was something like yeah you would only use the amount whatever stuck to the cork amazing erasing. They'll sell us. Someone's going to cut that's probably still for sale is very low tech very low tech. Yeah yeah my god. Oh you have a game quickly. Yeah just you gotta run the game lightning round game wet my whistle. It's called dish with chris or you need it yeah and the game is all about since you know you basically are exposed to and live very fabulous life. If you're self you know i think you're the king fabulously when it's all about your most favorite and most glamorous things if we can't live the lives ourselves we you want to find out what the most fabulous things apps from me from you reading reading. It's quick and dirty word association. Gosh okay okay ready. Penis penis o k biggest diva of all time living or dead miss mariah carey harry when people think that a divas bitch that is not what i'm talking about a diva is someone who positions themselves as a respected super talent. I did hear that you did her makeup so she could swim with the dolphins such rule but she did her before she swam with the dolphins. This is the thing about orion. Cheat doesn't want to disappoint her fans and she knows it. A dolphin knows it wherever she goes she's going to be photographed doesn't want her fans to not see her looking at mariah carey as she could look and so yes and i used it actually as an opportunity to test my complicity foundation formulating dolphin proof i was i was just like let me just try this on you. While you swim with the dolphins i just wanted to make sure and when she came back from swimming with a dolphin she was like look doc perfect and that's like salt water so guys you can bring chip -plicitly on all of your fabulous holiday tropical vacations yet that's right. I'm sorry i paused arcane. Continue sheiks restaurant. She gets restaurant. Oh what is it called in paris floor. Know someone with all the red. What is it in the hotel. Hotel costs costs. Yes christopher. I you know what i'm not a fancy person. I mean get citing spell. I use a scotch right pat him face but the thing is that i thought it was a little fun but i say that the chew mansion and that and i've gone i had dinner with presidents and kings and i've i've seen so many amazing things like i was at the sistine chapel at midnight or like gone to like different areas that no one's allowed to go to but it's because of my proximity celebrity it's not because of me. I'm very clear on that. I think you're fabulous. So thank you all right literal dish you love to order a dish to order almost was fabulous dish. You love to order. Why are you laughing because my head on like revenge served cold. That's good. I was really thinking like mr chows like i do like mr channels and that's all i love you. I love chicken parmesan. Oh <music>. I'm so trashy trashy. That was like listen. I thought that was like fancy food until like i moved to new york. I thought frank franks and beans was like fancy. Okay okay fettuccini. Alfredo is really an ice. That's so nineteen. Eighty-four also had a teenage girl frito we like the orwell or like me like the actual on the five the high brow and low pro. I think he means the year not the book i will say. I have a disdain for snobbery. I can't stand snobs and you know that this is like a joke. Look at this this this game right. Oh i do actually being behind <hes> in order to. I think that you really have to be able to appreciate a hot dog at a ball game. If you're going to be able to appreciate the finest caviar like you just have to be able to just enjoy everything and know that the best of whatever it is let's go back. Love love chicken parm. Most luxurious skin care product. Oh we've talked about it on the poll d._n._a. That mascot that maj miss madonna donna she did a good job. You did a good job. It's good stuff you like the mask or the ceremony the like all of it. It's really nice most. It's fabulous fragrance ooh. I have to say tom ford son. Tom wall and they discontinued. It announced buying it on the black market. I'm literally like finding like these little gold bottles that are like scattered amongst the math. The most glamorous hotel the ritz in paris. It's just it's historical you know in the george sank and the dorchester chester and i'm not i have no idea what you're talking about saying. I know the door catholic. George thank is marlene dietrich died. She lived there <hes> for many years and she was wouldn't leave and she wouldn't leave her bed and she was urinating in bacharach crystals vases her bedpans bacharach corrupt crystal ball. Yes and that doesn't sound glamorous me but you know. Do you want to live in movie. I wanna live in. I do live in a movie becomes her and then last one theme song song to your life sunshine on my shoulders by john denver so corny john denver i would not have chosen high no but that song song is it grows like a like a sunrise and it's beautiful and i know it's not a funny answer but it's genuine denver. It was a sweet man wasn't he. On my show iconic cold fundings for coming on famous. I hope it wasn't a boar or not's never nice hang out with you. Guys on my show makes me happy in jenn. It's time to raise juan jess. I know it is and i'm excited sighted okay so i'm really into this new fragrance. Tell me you actually got away with the other other day and you liked it. When i got to go to the world trade center yes does he jess's office where you're having a little need for a business meeting powerful businesswoman business ladies. He's having a business need and then we had a business lunch with two glasses of sun sair each. You smell delicious. What were you wearing is wearing lushes. Cardamom cardamom coffee friedman lush lake the smelly bath bombs. Yes no way it smelled very luxe. It's called car. It's called cardamom coffee made it. You know obviously it kind of has the ingredients that you would think are in kernel oil and the coffee offi sent. It's very autumnal has oil very warm and toasty and eats very in -veloping and it's very spicy. Now i saw our friend former podcast chandler burr the other day yeah and he gave me a hug and as soon as he gave me a hug was like oh crap. What's he going to say because it's like it's like meeting. You're going into the dawn of fragrance and i didn't really think about what was going to wear and he goes what are you wearing and i told him and because it wasn't some fragrance from like you know hello harris from you know the the corner shop of the blah blah blah and i was like oh lush karnal coffees. It's incredible. Here's a good announcing a credible and he gave a description that i will just summit up right now because his better than i'll ever be able to describe. He said it's like smoke but it's a a a photograph of smoke. It's not real smoke. He said it's an impression of sh- knows and he just said that off the cuff and i just love that it's smokey smokey without being like look at me my smoky fragrance everyone know and there's a sweetness to it too. It's a there's a nice gorman feeling to it so it's mochi inscribed describe that in dollars. I'm not sure what it is. It's seventy nine pounds on their site for said funny. I just pulled up my rayon and i can't find the dollars either and it's must be british company but he is well. I mean i know it is. I'm raising one to electric ink tattoo skincare vibrancy serum okay. Here's the funny thing. I do have tattoos. I do moisturizer them because because they do look better but i think our listeners that don't have tattoos are going to be into this product. Okay so electric. <unk> does a body oil body lotion but this vibrancy n._c. Serum which i saw the name easing it comes in like a toothpaste kind of metal toothpaste tube like that marvis toothpaste and it has this pearl lesson quality so i was like is is this shimmer cream. I don't know what is in it but it doesn't have mike it and make it shimmering. It has vitamin c to brighton and this like complex to like enhance your skin tone. I think if someone zone put this down the shin of their legs okay it would just be beautiful or on the collar bones or you could almost use it like a strobe and cream but it's really moisturizing smells not fragrance perfume fragrances. It's nice fresh herbal scent also vibrancy serum above that i feel like i just wanna rub it all over and just be vibrant so raise a want and thanks for listening that miscarriage produced by our friends at media you can check out our website and fat miscarry dot com for episode recaps product recommendations the discount code and if you wanna retest directly email us at info at fat mascara dot com or you can follow us on social at fat mascara. Shoot us the d._m. And we'd love if he went over to itunes and through us a rating. How many stars five please.

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Now, this part may be good for some well, not so much for others, but I will listen and help you with your podcast and this is an optional service. All you need to do is go to radio network DOT COM that's radio network DOT com. So licks. You've got some kind of a bone sticking out of your head or something yes. I was when I went into key stress putting my mask on in a felt this bone in the back of my ear. And I felt the other side and it doesn't feel the same on the other side. Of course I started freaking out googling it. and. Kinda scared. I WANNA see it. Yeah. We video may we? If you can see it on video then maybe we put it on on the social media's maybe somebody else can see I feel like it went down a little still see that it's popping out those. ooh, Iran's his video. Hey, come over here. Let me feel it. Keep the tape rolling there at the tape. Because, if something explodes I'm going to you know if it's like a sister something, we wanna get that. Oh is that right? Oh and you just noticed it. But you know what that reminds me of. I know you believe in superstitions and things like that a little bit. But when I was younger I guess I was about you know early thirties. And we were at a radio convention thing and there was always used to have these psychics that we would interview on radio and I don't believe in all that and so she was asking me, you know these things I'm trying to. Tell me stuff about me that I don't know and she said That I was a dog in a different life she has. Yeah, she's a you're. You'RE A dog. And you got killed because you are in a fight with another dog. and. The dog ripped your ear off. And she said if you feel behind your right ear. You have a syncing that you have. You have a scar there that you can feel nfl up there. And I was even I don't believe in all that. Oh my God. There is yeah. When she got close to look. Like an attack dog. Aurora. Naked. Funny. This is the Ason Tj show pillow Friday. Good Morning. Komo News. Right. You do. You got the virus. Who? have. I don't have the virus. Man I needed to three Friday. Alive. Slaving over a hot microphone for five days in a row. That's not even this that's cruel and unusual. Punishment in the summer. In the summer. And then the we'll only in the summer. And the winter. possibly. The fallen but. Not all of this spring the Friday before Memorial Day. That's okay. That's good. That's that's about as much as you should expect anybody to work. Yeah. In. A radio station that is you haven't been too many pools this summer. Have you. That's your. Your standard typical summer. Yeah. Friday. Activities going to the pool but I've been on the lake a lot. Have you been out on the lakes? But I am losing Montana have been out in the sun since vacation, which was two weeks ago. Right? You haven't been out all week. I'm still dark enough to be ashy though many bar some of your lotion. Arms. I was GonNa say something you are pretty Pale and gross. Hard to look at. So I, know ace. Is usually the one that covers the The category of bad things or or crazy things happening to him in the mornings before he gets here. But. I'll do that today. I left the house a little early because. You know do the weekend blast off pick off songs seven that takes a little while. So I was going to get here early. So, I stopped right about five minutes from my house to get gas and the gas station. That's a convenience store that's closed but they leave the gas pumps on that. You can use in the night with a credit card and whatnot. So pull up there. Nobody's there. You know. So early and it's IT'S Not in a busy area, it's GonNa close to residential areas and stuff. And Pump the gas in my truck. And of course, while I'm sitting there and the gas is pumping I'm inside the truck listening to news and things like that. Key in the truck listen to news stuff try it's not running even though that doesn't hurt a thing to leave your vehicle run when you put gas in it. People just think it does. So a Finnish topped off the gas. Got Him a truck. Won't Battery had gone. And I'm sitting in a gas station with nobody around. At it was probably close to maybe maybe three, fifty, five in the AM. ooh. So. WHO's the person I have to call to come jump me off. My Wife. Away yes. I need a boost. Now. I dreaded calling her so much because. Having gotten a terrible call in the middle of the night like that. You know about Ace's daughter and that was just last week and we're still all reeling from that. Sat there and I thought is there any other person than I could call? That's not gonNA freak out when they hear the phone at this time of morning. And I couldn't think of anybody. That I that I could bother no ace used to live up there. So it would have been him. I. Called Him said, Hey, come come. Give me a boost. But He lives in the city now and he's still in Louisiana with the family. So I called her. And of course, she sounded panic when she picked up the phone course. And then she came in and. gave me a boost in. Batteries in our vehicles. She has an issue in and. It's been so long since I've had to do anything mechanical to a vehicle, I hate I grew up working in my brother's filling station, and in the mechanic shop at a sawmill work, you know changing oil and stuff like that in eighteen wheelers, and forklifts. But the batteries are so sophisticated in new vehicles now that I even it's all covered up in there and I'm trying to figure it out and. She's holding one end of the jumper cable. So when I hit hook them up, they're not sparking all over the place and I'm trying to get it clipped on there and It wasn't but just a few weeks ago her battery went out and a friend of hers. Happen to have jumper cables in her car when she came by and all of that at the end, the at the house. And I'm trying to get the thing clipped on there and it's not feeding back and do the clamps are a little too big for the space and all that and you know she she doesn't like being awakened. She looks at because. Kerry just barely clipped them on their. Carried this a lot better than you're doing and quicker. That their pajamas. HOLDING THESE JUMPER CABLES And so then it hit me okay and then she sitting here judging how I'm doing this as compared to how her friend did it, which was you know it worked? So for some reason, if this is not the battery and it doesn't work, then the then she's going to give me crap about My God what you got to be doing something wrong 'cause care you did it. You know I could meet this carry. uh-huh. Jumped often and everything. So well I'm saying is I'm really telling everybody this because I seem to be a little forgetful We are reminded me to have one of you by my truck today when I go to leave so I don't get stuck here. Nobody me off because one of Y'all might ask you. Have to give me a boost. You got the cable movies Yeah Yeah Yeah. I. Even have one of those jumped box things oh. Yeah. But you gotta plug it into charge it up and it hasn't been charged up in a while. You WanNa bring it in here now. With me my. Garage. You see my point. It's useless onto level. Yeah which was interesting. It's like walking in the rain and you know your umbrella is at home same of Shank right. That's why I'm telling Ya. I went through the whole thing just say remind me for somebody to to make sure my truck stars today catching 'cause I gotta go straight to to get a battery. Yeah. So my days, my whole weekend's ruined now. On the act. Everything go wrong. On Friday. You're amazing and I really you're amazed child. No I'm actually a college girl. College. Girl. Wow. That's good stuff. Jump box was expensive yet. They're they're awesome. Yeah. As long as you have them charged right in your car, it could power this building. It's one of the big ones. But Say lovey. Leon Do. Call your wife at three in the morning. Exactly. Everything else she got it done. Delicious Saudi of Mariah Carey Son is now a game where he tried to get her to convince her to talk on tic-tac-toe his one fan that didn't go over well plus a girl who is having a meltdown over her newest door dash delivery job we'll do it all and delicious audio in less than ten minutes. Of the show now by calling one. Four one to twenty, three, eighty, five. DAX. Okay, let me give you my nightly routine quickly before I go to bed every night I dig up all the Mason Jars have my money in it I count it, put it back in the ground. then I take calendar and then I go to bed. So that's how it works. Is Products going to help you lose that Corentin fifteen also help you with other things like joint pain helping you get better sleep all of these things and again I take it at night. 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This is the point where I would play you the brand new song from Cardi B. and Megan this down. It's the top printing. Happy. This morning they have been hyping it up for weeks. It's called wrap W. A. It's an acronym. That I can't say on the radio. And even the edited Brady version is so filthy. I can't even come close to plan an edited birth. So okay well, that's So it's Not Out of character for those two doesn't seem them. It's just the worst disappointed. I just listened to it this morning. It's why you late. That graphic. But here's a girl that during the quarantine picked up a job with door dash as delivery driver. She's in college staying at home can't go back to campus because of the the the the virus. So. millennials or JEN's e trying to do things like this it could be a little stressful and she had a full blown panic attack when she had to deliver to an apartment. DORNA's and people decide to live apartments. Bike so hard for me to find where you live. I've been circling runner place for twenty minutes. Twenty. Nine. They live. Oh. Apartment twenty-three but their addresses to nine one nine. I've been looking for. I assume is a to nine, one, nine in they're like support it's building twenty three. Why That I think that's the way you handle traumatic moments now as she already had worked on own, how does it look like? She's already getting work done at her age Maybe I mean look at her lips and like the The what do you call these lines? The puppet. Yeah. Man I would he call? which talking about lines around your mouth Maybe, a little villa in there. Yeah. Well she's a college age. Yeah. Who A lot of people say start early with those injectables start her but she she Called the. The door actually she quit she get in trouble they yell at her or anything she just was a frustrated because she couldn't find the place. Yeah. It's a pretty easy process if you start delivering his create a profile and you can start working. So that was probably her last venture into a door delivery. Because she even called the customers, where do you what's your apartment number and they give her the building numbers you can find it. Yeah. I would be terrible at that too. But. And I don't I don't doubt that I would be breaking down crying either and frustration I just wouldn't video. Yeah Right. It's different way we handle things. Mariah Carey has to. Their nine years old now the sun is Gamer. He plays lot fortnight. And he got on Tick Tock under his profile. I think it's game or canons last names, Cannon Nikki Bother listen her and he did a little QNA about fortnight but then somebody tried to get slick and said, hey, go ask your mom what she thinks about. Your channel in in your fortnight videos and he was like, okay. So mariah. Carey obviously needs to be done up. She'd bit of a diva and this is how it went down. To Talk. Talk. Talk. TIKTOK. Onto, talk. My Fam. Shoes. Can you give your mind react tell? Tell our on. called. My mom is not ready to look. Be Be shot at in tick. But Plus don't go. Nine. Yeah. Kid? With. The other one after that where he was telling people like you don't know Oh. Yeah. Like Mind Your Business, it's no none of your business. Mariah Carey, son but somebody got in his Q. and A. and was like, Hey, go talk to your mom and she's crazy I mean she makes tv host sit on different sides if she can get her best angle, there's no chance she was gonNA show up no makeup on on Tiktok not chance. they had this big deal in L. A. One time we were It was when Mariah Carey was a judge on American idol and they sent us to cover the finale. And they had a Taping the night before the live show Mariah Carey was performing. Because she wasn't GonNa do it on the live show it had already taped. So she was wearing a dress that was so tight. It was a long sequence formal dress. she had to have somebody help her out to this little riser thing in the middle of the stage people get on both sides of her and lift her up and spin stand her on that thing because she wouldn't move like a moving. Yeah. Is the weirdest thing I've ever seen for a live year she's always like. You're never gonNA catch her talking to the camera without makeup. Ed. Staff. What was that? Mike Oh you've obviously. You. It's great. Okay. So that's all you. Yup, I mean, seriously that's all. All you've got reaons. Okay. Well, there's a lot more information on this ellen stuff. And someone has come from her past her way past. And talking about how he was bullied by her. Haley. From forty years ago. We'll tell you the details next. This is the ace and Tj show when you look at your current bathroom do you know that it needs an immediate update? 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We hope he is but if he's not, he's not, he's not ready. there's a guy in New Orleans. from New Orleans named been gravel a he's fifty two. Now, his name is spelled G. R. A. V. O. L. E. T.. But being a Louisiana native myself I'm guessing that that's pronounced. Gravelly is as opposed to grab a let. He says that when he was eleven years old, he used to go to his mom's office and there was a there was an assistant there in the office that worked for his mother and her name was Ellen Degeneres. Is You know she's from New Orleans. I didn't know. and. He said. That, she quote, took pleasure in bullying him. She was twenty he was eleven. He says, she called him fat and stupid. And He dreaded going into his mom's office because he knew Ellen's going to be in their insulting him he describes her as quote, the meanest nastiest most horrible person. and. He adds quote she was one of the most vile people I've ever met in my life. Gosh. He says, she even criticized his artistic talent. Remember he was eleven. When he he's claiming on this happened when he was eleven, he said quote I was sitting beside her desk I was drawing and criticized the drawings. She said. I guess that would look Nice if you could draw. Be Really. Good. Okay. Take Away. The fact that you know. He didn't think it was funny and he was a kid and heat says she was joking. That sounds like a typical ellen line and it's hilarious. That'd be that'd be that would be great if you could draw. From A. Comedic standpoint. That's Sounds like something you would say. That's why it's so funny. Did, Elon say, then you that's why I think it's so brilliantly crafted I love that shirt just not on you. Cert- would look really nice if it were on someone else. Yeah. Is You to the letter You wouldn't do that to an eleven year old though. No No, no. No. Unless already had a report joking with the eleven year. Not If the eleven year old thought that I was the meanest nastiest most horrible person ever. Call no wouldn't do that. I would get another kid to do it. Sure. Ace Jj. That I. Don't know that I believe that story anyway. But. You know about. It is what it is. You know. All right. I've got to tell you what happened to me. Yesterday went donated blood. That's right. Yeah Wayne. You hear this coming up next. ACT's. Next always TJ show graphics and Web Design are done by Alpha lab designs looking for spectacular email design at TJ, dot Com web design menus, marketing materials, brochures, flyers, social media, ads, and more design at a TJ dot. com, do you love a sail? Are you ready to save some money? Hey I'm Bobby Barbara Independence he director in right now almost everything in our cincy catalog is. Ten percent off we got to let go of our fall and winter products to make room for the new spring and summer products and that means big savings for you. You can get six bars right now for only twenty seven dollars guys that's only four, fifty four. So go check out the sale at smells just right dot com again smells just right dot com and start saving now. Coming up on the Act J. Show. We call it the world famous Friday morning weekend blasts off. really come party songs. We play say thank God Friday and all that kind of stuff you know. been doing it. Probably I think this is our fifty seventh year. Last. We're into our fifty seventh year. So they'll be of devote now you know. Now you kids know what? I'm talking about. Okay as far as my donating blood first time I ever did it. I did it yesterday and you know what happened Everything went pretty smoothly. Oh well. But Nothing nothing uneventful. And you feel like you were going to pass out. No. No I was really good at it. Keeps you respect. I was the best one they did. They reckon did they know who you were? No. No. If they did they were professional enough not to say Because I was naked. Didn't realize you had to get naked to give blood but Again I. Didn't I've never done it so. Wow. I just assumed when you go into a place where their medical people that was disrobe. So I did. You took off all your clothes and had. You get lightheaded or anything they give you snacks afterwards. Yeah. There was a a big. Plastic container up there and had some sun chips and some. Ano- peanut butter crackers and things like that and it and it was a little fridge. That only had soft drinks and water you know beer anything. So my wife was in there the same time I was she was just an different little. Rural area. And of course, I beat her. I got I got finished first NASIMA. Blood's a lot better and flows a lot nicer. And So I grabbed the snack on the way out of the bus. And I go to the car and I'm sitting here with the air conditioning and I'm enjoying my cheese crackers and tiny coke. because. I figure you gave blood you're supposed to they always say eat something I mean and she came out and seem like for of her Before she finally. Got There. And I say, you didn't get a snack and she said, no, I don't WanNa snack and I said. But it was free. Idiot. One of those people free. Got and brought it to me. You know that was probably about a baggage those small chips probably about forty cents. Yeah. That we don't have to be wasting. Throwing, away. but we did get to each of us got to ten dollars Visa cards. They pay you too. Yeah. I've never heard. I have. I've heard people doing that in college and things like that if they get really but I, didn't know they still give you. You know essentially they're giving you money. For it but they used to be the thing if you could give plasma, they would pay more for that. Yeah. That was the moneymaking. If you give plasma little more intensive, I think. Yeah. So I went in there giving the blood and with the intention of when they see that I've got the antibodies for the virus that I would go back and donate plasma because they're using plasma and then I found out how they do that and now I'm not so sure. It'd be nice. You guys have the same blood type? No no really I'm she doesn't even know her's mine's Oh positive and she didn't even know hers and she said I I. Know Minds Negative. That's I'm negative issue are. Negative. Coming up on now trending with brigands or we in the final days of cinnamon toast crunch. Is that the cereal that is about to end. I know we got some drama discussing less than ten minutes and now trending case in TJ want to save up to seventy five percent off on domestic or international airline tickets. Then call low cost airlines for prices so low, we can't publish them call eight, hundred, two, eight, seven, forty, seven sixteen that's eight, hundred, two, eight, seven, forty, seven, sixteen. The News, but it is what's trending down trending with. On the Show this where we get into all the top turning items of the day right now, the top trending topic Cardi B.. That's because she her new song is out with Meghan the town it's called Wasp It's an acronym I can't even say it on the radio. It's so filthy vulgar traff. It's all vulgar trash so you can go check it out if you'd like even the radio version is pretty filthy so. Won't be playing that I I don't know. Yeah I was just GonNa say if you hear the song on any of our radio stations are great radio stations that were heard on. A We don't control that. So you may love it. You may not whatever we don't have anything to do with the with the playing of the music yeah. So, just a heads up, we being the TJ show, we have nothing to do with the music. Selections and stuff. That's highly trained music professionals that do that. It looks like president trump is making good on his promise to ban tick tock yesterday he issued an executive order which will ban any US company or citizen for making transactions with Bite Dance, which is the parent company of Tiktok also the same executive order for the company that owns we chat both owned by Chinese companies. The issue that he has that companies are often required to hand over user data to the Chinese Communist government, which could obviously cause problems. You know they can't be trusted. Yeah. So Enemies, this is the first step to totally banning TIKTOK and we're not there yet but this seems like the first salvo if you will. One of these pictures that I find just wonderful that I think TJ is really going to enjoy Kate Moss. International model pop culture icon been the cover of every major magazine. She was photographed in a Beezer on a yacht smoking a cigarette, and she's widely considered to be one of the most beautiful women in the world for a long time But something about her just smoking the heck out of the. The cigarette with the ash growing on it It's just not a great luck. Yeah. I've never been on that. In that crowd that thinks that she's so beautiful. She didn't she used to be with Johnny Depp for some weren't they a couple probably women yeah. She's just always looked kind of dirty to me. Yeah. Unkempt yet and this picture is not thing not image at all. Smoking on. That seagal long ash having to hold it up upright to keep the ashes from following. There's something Neva trashy about smoking the bottom end of a cigarette than just lighten up you know after. Often. Away. I love it. I just love that picture can't get enough of it and today is international beer? Day? which doesn't mean a lot to meet because you go drink beer in any other country it Kinda saw. Yes. It's hard to find one that that American normal Americans would have a taste for yeah. They just haven't figured it out I don't know why I've been to Australia they have a beer there that I like. Is. Called Victoria Bidder. They don't they don't really drink fos. You remember fosters used to be a big deal Stralia for be standing. Didn't like it was thick Ganz. Blue Cans. The Miller lights doing this thing where in a hundred ten cities. To celebrate International Beer, day if you go get a six pack and you live in a city that is the name of a town over shares of the name of a town like Trinidad Colorado it's another country making it an international transaction. Oh then you get the six pack free. But first thing I look for this morning on the list of cities was Birmingham. Birmingham England. Miller lite was like I. Don't think we'RE GONNA pick. Any big cities. So I look that olive and none of them are are what you consider to be major cities. 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How To Make It As An Artist In A Digital World With William Tyler Story

The Skinny Confidential Him And Her Podcast

48:22 min | 1 year ago

How To Make It As An Artist In A Digital World With William Tyler Story

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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire panthers imperiously and he's a serial entrepreneur a very smart cookie and now lauren efforts in michael box dick bringing you along for the ride major real math breath welcome to the skinny confidential in and her in their own way they have some. We're all born with some type of creativity. I can't believe otherwise you know. I just think some people choose to pursue whatever their creative aided routers and then decide that's not for them. This is the skinny confidential wouldn't joe him in her show. My name is michael boss. Everybody so trying to trying new radio more guests to the show today william tyler story lauren almost just had an aneurysm when i did the voice you love to play with different voices. I mean it's now. He's listening to marty robbins on repeat every morning when he has his coffee. Let me we know i've been doing that for about twenty years now. It's like for some reason it's going crazy lately and so he's experimenting with texas accent all the time so i have to hear all these different people come out of your mouth might have to adjust your old ear buds everybody. That's not a texas accent. I'm not talking to texas texas the texas fuck fuck off everybody here. We go back yeah. Do you know what i'm getting. This weird thing now where our friends parents are starting to listen to this show show. It's putting me very very on edge because the first thing i think is oh my god with a what the hell did the here really. I don't care. I would let anyone lesson yeah but you know the problem almas light parents. If you're out their friends parents adults you know if you're there the promises they entering these conversations with me where they talked to me for twenty thirty minutes and then twenty three minutes and they go by the way i heard this episode and i'll just tell me from the beginning because it's it it makes it very awkward after somebody today here. I feel like you're episode talking when you're out someone in particular. No one that i'm talking about. What's happened a few times now. It's wild show giving autographs than they know. I mean listen you know. Cousin sue comes out of nowhere and they're saying hey. I heard when you were talking about kind of linguists on the show with sex with emily and it's a little bit awkward. I don't know it's never been awkward for me. I feel like i've always had a bad mouth. Ever since i was little my dad's just used to it at this point since this episode is look at this gem zero here what what's going on with me in the studio. She's talking about eighty-five what's wrong. I'm just i'm trying to get one good one the lights not that great you know. My hair is looking weird. You look pretty cute. If you didn't get it on the first twenty five i have hope they came in and her hoodie with her hat. She's taking herself. He's okay so census. Episode is having to do with art. I thought we would talk a little bit that about how we're styling are home. That's been kind of a hot topic on instagram instagram d._m._z. A lot of you guys have been asking about the art that we have in our house and i thought this this was the perfect episode to open the discussion so what we decided to do for this house was mis mixed masculinity with femininity so are other house is super masculine like condo is really masculine and so this house has a little bit of femininity but not too much skinny confidential. If that makes sense one one man can only take so much pink spe come on. There's a lot to deal with yeah. You got a lot of pink going on. Don't you anyways so how we styled our house. Was we decided like i said did you heavy on the masculine a little bit feminine and we got a lot of our stuff stuff through our friend cortlandt. He sources stuff out of palm springs now. If you're ever in palm springs you gotta go to the antique stores. They have a mid century modern design and they have the most incredible like pieces so a lot of the pieces in our home. You guys have asked me to link. I can't link 'cause it's stuff from antique stores and then we really really focused on using wallpaper. Wallpaper is such a good hack. You can do some real. You can turn like a very basic room me too something really cool one thing. I think's important dimension about everyone's like okay. Where'd you get that. Everyone wants to collect it all at once. They move into a new place that i think the best thing about art is taking your time clicking it over years years and years the stuff that we've had now for ten. I've had for ten fifteen years yeah. We like to build slowly. That tip came from my step mom. She does homes in san diego. Burlap kristall a stall and she told us to go really slow so we decided not to be at the kind of people that go into a gallery and just say give me this room. You know who you are of your z. Gallardo yeah no no no i wanted. I wanted to go really slow and i wanted to bring pieces from all different places in <hes> but if you're on a budget i would highly recommend wallpaper. We did michaels bathroom with this kate. Moss wallpaper and the whole entire bathroom was wallpapered. Kate moss is naked body. Hopefully didn't masturbate in my bathroom probably did <hes> return anyway so so that was really find and then you can also use wallpaper like design so we'll do like one wall. That's completely patterned out and then the other walls are painted so use wallpaper. That's my tip i. I don't have a lot of places to tag. Shout out 'cause like i said a lot of it's from antique stores and our couch. A lot of people ask about how couches from restoration hardware yes cloud collection. Do you like the couch. I do like it but we got it in black right and so the dog is on they're making a mess and so it's kind of a whole thing about the tech yeah we got a they just for whatever reason just throw up on the couch like you have to give more context. I don't know he just likes to puke on the fucking couch while puke anywhere else in the house but on on the restoration cloud couch he has this weird tick wipe it out. We gotta get a couch cleaner. It's ridiculous. It's the whole thing and when he pukes does he have a raging gene hard on. What's where that's a little strange. I don't know i'm just saying maybe that's his kink. Maybe likes it. I didn't even know you're relating to the dog here. What's what's what's going on doing that but <hes> tell us. This is about people listening to this show because we're here. We're talking about wallpaper. The next thing you know talk to the audience about our couch like g k well one time. You're fucking mike von. That's how you come in yeah. Mike's never been on in the whole history of the universe so couple of tips around the house are make sure you find things from different places us wallpaper and then details tells count oil diffusers we have incense from our favorite spot in kabo one and only paul mia it makes the house most so delicious candles little tiny things make all the difference we've been using an ice bucket from our favorite place to go in the world as a flower vase so just having those little details around the house makes all the difference and it makes it feel. I come to get deal detail if they're real quick. It's fine like <hes> yeah. Collection is don't don't don't just do it. Don't be z gallery room collector all all right guys. Let's let's get any episodes so we brought in william tyler story into the media studios. Every girl in the office basically had a heart attack came in looking unlike a long haired tall beautiful jesus great bone structure really kind of threw me off. My game didn't know what to do. I got lost in his eyes at one point and and <hes> it was hard. It was hard to get into art and had to get into all these things and i'll just god damned this a good looking man but anyways we got it together. I got it together conducted a very professional interview all about art. Enjoy this beautiful man from east texas william taller story welcome to the show. You know what that can't get enough of. Just can't get enough of them. I love me <hes> mushrooms. They get me going. Put me in a different head space guys. I'm talking about four matic mushroom coffee lauren. 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I turn my father on and get it all nice and frosty the and i pour it over my coffee so i feel like i'm getting my antioxidants. My minerals might vitamins my mushrooms in my coffee being efficient as usual for those guys guys that are late to the game late to the show if you haven't tried for significant and you're thinking what the hell is mushroom coffee. It is simply a blend of delicious mushrooms powders that tastes like the coffee put it in water comes little packs stir. Laurence says use a fr- author and boom energy and a bottle. Don't have the jitters no nasty coffee comedown. Honestly it's one of the best alternative sometimes i have an issue and i just need a break from coffee and this does the trick. Also i have not conducted a podcast interview in the last one hundred podcast interviews without the forcing matic lines made focus shot. It is one of the best things to focus again. Don't it's all natural. Don't have to worry about getting the jitters. Don't have a weird come down just complete focus and as always we have a special offer for our listeners go to four sigmatic dot com slash skinny and enter promo code skinny for fifteen percents off your entire order again. That's four sigmatic dot com slash promo code skinny for fifteen percents off your entire order for those who they're too lazy to type that it's always in the show notes always in the email newsletter follow up and also listed as a show partner on our site so check it out forcing matic dot com slash skinny chairs. This is the skinny confidential him in her so william. You flew in from dallas. Did your with your girlfriend. You're going to have a best time in l._a. We actually just drove in in a little over three hours from joshua tree so there's a there's cool r._v.'s where you can kind of glam out in the desert so we hung out. It's a blast we we did it because usually before some big event or anything that i'm attending. I'm not good at really just sitting still so so. That was something like we went out. We hiked. We <hes> got to relax in this perfect little you know had like porch and hammocks and i've got a bottle of wine and stuff like that. You feel inspired. When you do stuff like that like i'm the type of person where i have to step outside of. I guess my art my content. She really wrap my head around it to be creative. I do and the thing is i'm so in love with the city and so as she but we're both in creative creative fields and the only time we ever really feel like we're truly relaxes when we take that extra step to go three hours outside of l._a. Or three hours south south of dallas or something like that you know but every so important to like get out and be in nature because i mean there's never been a time that we've been disconnected. Technology could be a nature more though no but i was thinking i was in large today to go to this shop and i put my phone down for a minute and left it and went into a panic when we got off the phone. Where's the phone now. Take care right but it's weird. You know there's never been a time like this before. So can you introduce yourself to your audience. Let's go back talk to your childhood your so artistic but i wanna go back like was it something that you always knew where you always drawn art. I was as a kid. I i just little pencil sketches nothing crazy but i knew i was drawn to. I was drawn to music. I took guitar lessons and tried that path but it never really took off by going through school in texas. I don't think they promote art is a career as much and i've actually found that out lately one of the brand that i'm working with soon on a campaign in july it's to help build funding for participation in texas so when i was growing coming up that wasn't really stressed like he has a talent. Let's direct here. It ended up being like what's the safe route ended up being i studied lead fitness and wellness and went through kinesiology and got all the way up to my senior year in college before i realized like this that wasn't really the path i wanted to take and then i fortunately like social media different things like that became actual career. Opportunities were different ways to build and grow from that so so it was. Let's see twenty. Thirteen was my last year at the university of texas in arlington and that was where i was preparing myself l. for grad school to go and physical therapy stuff that i still would enjoy but not anywhere near as much as i do. The art world dislike the world of social and you know like the vanity likes and the things that they get in the way but does that irritate you with like you know because you're a creator of obviously asleep so as lauren and you guys are creating art in but then there's a there's an element to obviously have to get that out there to share does it. Do you like the way that that's being shared now. Do you like the way you're expressing expressing orderly getting it out there to the world or does it is it irritated or is it kind of like a flip back and forth i like it because i haven't had to go step into the gallery world and and then meet people i i've created my own online gallery. Don't have near the amount of work <hes> put out there. The some of the artists that i find inspiration from they don't even get the recognition that they deserve some of the best artists out. There are like well. You said i mean there's a there's a starving artist aspect to it but that's where it comes back around to do like. How are you marketing it. Are you more of the gallery artist. Are you going to build an online gallery for yourself. What the traditional path say that. I'm an artist. I don't know anything about mark and i just know how to create art. Like what is the typical path that sets because i'm sure there's a lot of people that are listening that artists and they have no idea how they're out there. Everybody's probably going to tell you a different different thing but my take on it is getting into gallery so you go to an event you go to a gallery the owner you showcase your work if they like it. They'll represent you. Put you in the gallery but then typically you're getting like a fifty fifty split when someone purchases your work well that's. I'm pretty sure but where they try to write that office. You're getting the exposure so where i saw you know my opening was. I had exposure exposure online so i was like if i'm selling a painting in connecting with people there i don't. I didn't really see the need yet to go into a gallery. Sorry i was hoping to discontent and i still am. I guess but i like one hundred percent commission for sure genius what you said. It's an online in gallery. I have a lot of friends that are in the business world but they're artists at heart and as i get older i'm starting to see some of those friends be miserable because they're working nine to five and they're doing the corporate thing but their passion is art. What advice would you give to someone like that. Would you say work on it on the side. Would you stay quit your job. Would you say start putting yourself out there online like is there a certain path that you would go to i've. I've definitely experienced that so but i mean i liked my job so prior to this. I i will area management for fitness clubs. I was was a personal trainer on the side all of that stuff but on the weekends i would paint a little bit and i was like man. I wish i could do something more with this. <hes> <hes> there was a coffee shop on the corner that i go to every morning and the owner was like you want to put some up on the wall and try to sell them and i was like sure and i put him up <unk>. I think the first week the buyer actually listens to this podcast. I'm pretty sure high buyer her. Her name's amanda yeah so in the circle of dallas. I i haven't personally met herbicides through <hes> selling that piece but what she doesn't know is that kind of was one of the moments that i decided okay. I wonder wonder if i can sell another one and then i would pay again but i waited to see if i was going to have people interested before considering leaving my job testing so i wouldn't. I wouldn't suggest that person working the nine to five to just quit immediately unless you know they want to take that at risk and just dive into the deep in things which i did kind of do that. I'd only sold a few pieces than i was making good money. I just wasn't completely completely fulfilled with that position at the time so i actually scheduled a trip to costa rica to kinda do the i wanted to get into solitude just kind of reflect after i had resigned from that position and i just happened before that i booked a campaign the pain that flew me to switzerland got to experience that and then this all through social like how does this. How does this copy shop and then people start you start sharing on social then you start getting inbound yeah that that was so when i sold those pieces i i didn't really promote artwork on my instagram right around that time <hes> <hes> agencies were taking interest in me for modeling as soon as i signed with a few people i started booking jobs <hes> pretty quickly and good had one so. That's what i got to remember too. That was a big thing that was supporting me and giving a peace of mind to be able to leave my main job to take on the art full-time. It sounds like you're saying like do do do your side hustle and as your side-hustle gains momentum then put more. I mean i. I knew these are things i forget. I'm glad we're talking about it. <hes> because i did have the moment where i wrote down every single thing on a daily basis that cost me money. You know to live the way that i like to so once. I knew what that number was. What do you mean like okay. This is my ran. These are like the yeah any any expense the allowed me because i i live my. I don't live beyond my anything. I don't live beyond my means but also i'm not cheap either like <music>. I'm i'm definitely gonna eat the good food. Stay in the better room man you know what i mean and if that means i got to put in the wor yeah ah yeah so <hes> that's kind of what i decided to do. Iran those numbers. I figured out what my expenses were and then you know put a little bit on top of that just for extra cushion and there's a lot of people that get in trouble because they don't do you knew in essence. You knew what you're not was you. You knew you like this. If i don't make this then i'm going to start seeing king and there were actually months that i wasn't you know i came out strong. I was balancing the income and then you have those periods that are there's a little bit of a lull and every single time. I've had one of those moments that cliche story that you probably sadly often here where you feel like you're being tested like are you ready for these bigger. Things that are coming out and can you make it through the you know. It might be one month. They might be six months. You know whatever that period is. And what can you do to maintain and grow to get over that hump and then as soon as i do all the sudden. It's like like you know when it rains it. Pours like june has been like this month is awesome like have lined up so much work. That probably the most work of done. It's growing pains yeah. I feel you have to go through that. You know what i mean. So if you were to describe your art to our audience if you could just say it because this is obviously audio everyone will go look at your instagram. How would you is it a theme theme because you'll notice that i like to use bright. Colors lawyers have steadily been building a and a private page if you if you pull it up it's william tyler story so that's it's full name right. There actually go by william tyler because when i first started <hes> in the modeling industry i was kind of i was very located at facebook facebook. I didn't have anything like that. <hes> i see this on your instagram but it's cool to see on your website to very bright. It's very i feel like it's in your face a sort of flamboyant way so you see the bottom left right there where it says so this is actually a good if you could imagine it's in probably two and a half feet or three feet two and a half feet by four feet so it's a pretty good size. Everything was done you know with no black lines brush spray paint very abstract expressionism but i like to use a lot of colors and i've always joked with my girlfriend about how most of my paintings aren't really paintings. That would actually having my own home. I actually like the rough kind of unfinished stuff which i have some of that too. I haven't shared it yet but it's all i'm easing things out there. As soon as i'm ready so we can you talk talk about that a little bit and that's never had an artist people. You wouldn't have your own argument so that you like creating things well now i. I would to have certain pieces in my house but i do. I i love dark and muted colors and unfinished kind of grungy style drawings <hes> or pieces of our but when i'm painting it's only enjoyable to me when i'm packing and all that color. There's actually a really amazing documentary or a mini documentary. I don't know if you've ever seen it with. Jim carey and it's called. I needed color to watch. It's worth saying it's like six minutes. It's on on youtube. It's called. I needed keller and he's in new york. He'd just gone through a break-up broken heart a very dull winter and and he was kind of depressed and he just he needed to paint color and full independence. It's such a yeah <hes>. I related to him on meeting the color i've i'm not unhappy by any means i'd say <hes> in a blessed and like every area of my life at the moment so so <hes> i just really liked. He had this studio in new york. It's just wall to wall. They show us on a ladder. That's propped up because the painting so on the floor he has decarlo across the ladder and he's spilling colorful paying on anyways dealt with mental illness so that makes total sense. He's i think he's a very he's spoken <unk> out high a very depressed person yeah i mean i like anyone we all ha- have some kind of inner turmoil and i feel like my way of producing are using all the bright colors and different things like that it it fair. It calms down. It's my yoga. It's my i how long or something like that take and when you say something like that we're looking at the organized. That's now this. This is the lucid it's this was commissioned. Guys a skull. Thank you crown the and the thing is if you can see these paintings the size that they are in person so if you go back to that you can actually see so the size in person. It has such a different effect. Were you asking me a question. How long how long have you taste the process losses of time behind something like commitment there or is it depends because some stuff will happen so quickly and you're so into it that you just like within a couple of days. It's done but when i create content. I have to write twenty pages. If i have to write that i will put it to the last fucking second like if it's due at eleven starting at like ten i tortured myself until ten like just the worst. It's like chinese torture. 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Slash skinny to get this exclusive offer again. That's grove dot c._o. Slash josh skinny grove dot com slash skinny. I'm very much like you. I do procrastinate. She's very organized and like i said when when we when i got the email about coming on the podcast she was already on her computer. Booking flights and i was like wait. I don't even know if i have it confirmed. It looks it's like left brain yeah and then when we're booking the hotel. I didn't realize there's a big convention. That's in l._a. Right now everything it's three. That's it's like an electronic huge and so every hotel that we wanted to go to was sold out but eventually it worked out to to my advantage procrastinate but something i still deliver yeah if i will deliver. That's how i am just eh michael. You're freaking out like a psycho tasmanian steinbach and everything figures itself out. You are able to detach from the process that goes into it for me. I can't just leave until i chance i'm sure probably all of us. In this room are performance. We can make it cowan in the end but i don't want to go through the suffering of wondering if i'm gonna make it happen. You're you're suffering of waiting. I guess mine is of planning so early like i do wanna do it when it's time to do it. I mean some things if i do have a hard deadline like if someone's commissioned me a painting no i'm not gonna procrastinate like that's that's priority yeah because i mean they've. They've put some money towards it. That's happening but if it's booking a flight or booking hotel i am that one. That's like the night before like. I love hotels tonight in like something quick but we both like to get out in the nature so that worked out everything being sold out in l._a. Pushed us into joshua autry and it was beautiful out there. There's like a tiny pull two feet deep. It's freezing cold that you're you're soaking in the middle of the desert and it's like one hundred and three outside so taking me to joshua tree. Go tell the packers shut up. I want to know when you ah said holy. Fuck i have this amazing art and there's this platform called instagram where i can utilize this to distribute the content and not only distribute distribute content but create a community online and when you had that aha moment what was the strategy behind it because you've a huge instagram falling i mean you and not only that what you have like hundreds of comments each post. People are very engaged with what you're doing like. I'm beyond thankful for that. People who have supported me from when and i had just started modeling are still they're showing the love now which is amazing because i think that was you know now. We're four years ago from that do that at all anymore. Yeah here and there <hes>. I'm more focused on like i. I do campaigns for brands on instagram. If it's a brand iran that i enjoy like if there is a nice watch or it's an apparel company that i really would recommend commend someone. I'm always down to collaborate and come up with some content because i have a little side passion for photography too. I'm not a photographer by any means but a along time ago when i was first getting started. Most of my shots were captured by me. Just because i wanted to play around with edits i wanted to get light room and photoshop and things like that and i just liked messing with lighting and sands of your question. About when did i figure out when i was going to transition to art because i mean you can take picture after picture this angle that angle this angle that angle then like eventually it's like is there. What's the meaning behind it. That's how i felt is the blogger. It's like how many fucking pitchers go look it up. I'm gonna blow my head off and by the way when i'm fifty and i wanna be like fabulous with with my breakfast tray and my newspaper and my ed caught alert patricia i i don't wanna be taking pictures of myself all the time. So how do you transition. That's what's what's what's the <hes> the game and that i don't like and i i know. Some people probably do it to build up. I guess an audience for like a bigger opportunity down the road but i mean i. I'm still i'm looking at it that way like i wanna be if you don't think it's gonna last forever the and it's not i mean that's not realistic. Could all i mean facebook used to be you know the hottest thing and then it kind of slowed down instagram took over. I i feel like doc at least as far as being the more popular well. I think that's what people are gonna get in trouble as when they're they're dependent on a platform which is on one platform it doesn't it feel good to you to be multifaceted and complex as a person i mean you're obviously very good looking guy. I'm sure when people meet you. They immediately really want to put you in the box of ura model and to know that you have so much more to offer you. You're such a talented artist photographer you of all these different for an interest in to put it out there online to be able to be multifaceted like i think that's what's cool about social media. They can't just put you in the box. I think think that's having those thoughts. That's where i started to transition the page and that was probably a year and a half ago. When i was leaving my main job house taking on i wanted to pursue the art world full force but i knew i had to do other things to support it and i still am. I just just needed to think of when i when i am an old manor or says i mean say something happened. Where you don't have your looks. I mean i could <hes> ah terminal mental illness tomorrow you know like what am i going to have in this world that has longevity at a. I don't want to just be like face. You know what i mean. You'll you'll even actually see it. In my thread read where every year it's like the shirtless pictures started decreasing and decreasing because i cut off your ear like van go you never know yeah. Yeah get frustrated yeah so i mean that's what i'm saying. You wanna go viral. You call me up. I'll cut that ear. We'll get we'll blow. The new new age of creativity comes from because clearly you're you're very creative person large greater person. I don't necessarily can put myself in the box your creative at finding angles golf but i think that there's i'm wondering if it's something you have to be born with or something you could tap into. I think everybody is a creative live person like in their own way they have. We're all born with some type of creativity <unk>. I can't believe otherwise you know. I just think some people choose to pursue whatever their creative routers and than others decide. That's not for them. You know like there's nothing wrong with deciding decided to do the nine to five you know corporate job. If you're miserable miserable yeah good point but if if people say maybe i'm like i think what i want an essence with you is there's a lot of creative people but they think okay. That's not i can't do anything without i can't make money and so maybe it maybe i can only make like forty thousand dollars a year being created but i can go make ninety over here and it's like is it better to make the extremely happy or make ninety and be miserable. I'm gonna vote forty right right yeah and and people don't they're creating their own obstacles for sure because yes definitely i'd much rather make less and be happy then then make more and be unhappy you know why because people think that they're going to make x. amount and when they make x. amount at some point they're gonna be able to stop. They're going to not have to be productive anymore. They're going to buy the stuff often have the things and then then. They're going to be happy as a delayed gratification. I think that's like a never ending process like you could have. I think about when i was younger and it's like i was in you know l. like an apartment with three roommates three buddies and it was like a couple hundred bucks a month cheap and it's just really it was a shithole but at the time like man. This is fucking nice ace okay. What if i was back in that situation. Could i still be that happy and i think that's what people should question is like the happiest moments in your life as you progress and get nicer nicer and better things in terms of material you go back and still be as happy and i think that's where the mind fuck torture. Take place something that used to make you extremely happy could actually end end up making you upset now right. So are you saying it would. Would it not make you have so you're saying. If you went back to that i got. I'm trying to get back to a place. I would right so <hes> marking on inside. A lot of people get in trouble because they say okay well. I'm going to go to call. I'm going to go to high school to college and we get this job and i'm going to better job in them and get this career <music> one day. I'm gonna make this amount of money and i'm gonna get these things. I'm gonna retire yeah. It's like that doesn't necessarily need to be path. That's just the way that we're wired. That's the way that yes yes. I definitely that's how i was too. I mean i always make the comment about the fact that i feel like i'm having to rewire my brain a little bit and so that comes is with a lot of inner struggle and things that my girlfriend deals with not i mean just on a daily basis like you have a lot of ups ups and downs through it because you're always question you can't help but to question if it's the right path or not because you know the way you were brought up you. You wouldn't think that is the way to go so you have to shut that out and then remember that you are taking the path. That's gonna make you the most just happy. I think working towards material things like not guilty then passes. It's a formula but people that's the contracts that we may. There's there's a guy's really smart. <hes> named of all rob account listened to a lot of the things he says basically desire is a contract you make with yourself to be unhappy until you get what you want and when you think about there's so many people working towards one dam and how that house one this family i want him to have this thing and they're just miserable until they get what they don't realize that you may not be happy when you get there and i think that's why we were so interested in what you do because it's like you really seem like you're living life on your own terms and not breaking boundaries with with society and putting i like her own online gallery you didn't take the conventional route right and that's taking the next step with that too by creating a little oh private page so one thing that i've noticed with a a lot of artists when they showcase their work <hes> not not as many people are going to engage with it because i found myself to do this to like i follow a lot of photographers in different things like that things that i find very visually appealing but it becomes like that scrolling process where we're doing that mindless scroll and you never showed any support but in your mind you're like i was a really good picture but you went right. I buy it so i created a separate art page. That's just william taylor story and it's it's private but anyone that request west follow it. I go ahead and accept them and that's like a little v._i._p. Area for you to be able to see you know more actual behind the scenes things <hes> it's still in its very early stages more engaging. They're talking more yeah. I think so genius did you have and the other thing is the v._i._p. I just it doesn't have any none of the cover photos have me in the way of the artwork so i have so many pictures on my other page where like i am very proud of the work and i want to be in the picture with it. You know you want to hold it like a trophy but i also know that. Sometimes you need it to sit alone for someone to actually get the real feel of it so anyways. I'm excited for that because it's given me another project on top of all these others that i'm working now. Is there a strategy to your instagram like when you posted an instagram. Do you post certain days of the week. Is it just how you feel it. Is there a strategy with the picture the caption there's there's not really a strategy. I've done it so long my own way like you'll notice through my feed. I don't have a very common filter or anything like that and i think earlier on an instagram before the page had grown to where it is today. I liked so many different filters and forms of light that i wanted to be able to post that variety continue to so that's what i've done in stuck with than any caption is just something genuine that came to mind in that time it's it's not a lot of planning unless the unless i'm collaborating with a brand that's requested me to communicate certain bullet points. You know so your strategy is just like your life. Do yeah as much as i can now. It's one hundred ten percent me. It doesn't have some some of my private parts of my life showcase on it but that's also because this all happened so quickly. I'm just rocking back and forth a little bit and i'm trying new things that are off limits on that page. What do you mean l. a. Do you put your girlfriend on your instagram's where that's actually this was. I wanted this to kind of be that opportunity to voice that everyone because like i'll let all my followers no. Hey you need to check this podcast best out. I want them to know that i'm happy with my girlfriend. We're gonna end but i haven't d._n._c. Has listen. I'm looking into this guys. Is there one of those bright green something i listen. If i swing the other way i would probably slide him myself. I can't blame these ladies yeah. We're all friends. Cut it out everybody out. They don't slide and he's taken but yeah so the the only all of us the i haven't kept that off limits but i just haven't really changed changed what i promote in post on there so until i had i'm very slow to introduce something new due to a process that i've been doing for a while about yes that'd be like a slow build you could do at lorne doesn't just throw it all out there and i've i've had no say in it yeah and it varies with people but i do. I love the way that i do it because i mean just yeah i. I asked to do it that way but you know again. This is always this was probably to me the coolest way to be able to announce versus just like you know here. We are because we we have. We have so many good pictures in stuff that we've done what we've done in a in less than a year some people do in five or more. You know this is what you you should do. You should paint a photo of her paint her skull because it looks like you have a lot of no because okay name a painting after her and and that's how you should announce a like sh- c._d.'s ruined surprise scholars parts and say save save some of those. Tell me to paint your skull. We know he'd schools. I think if he painted i i don't know how you would just be like a stick figure with instead of roses god. Maybe you do like hearts or something that represents romance to you oh sure i think that's cool that you're announcing it. What is a book a podcast or resource that you listen to you could be a television show. Just something that inspires you that you could recommend to our audience something that inspires me. I do like to sort through. If we're talking about podcasts. There are quite a few of your episodes soad's the have resonated with me gary v he puts out so much content but that's the beauty of that. You can basically yeah you you can you can go. We'll whatever's on your mind on his podcast and find a little segment where he can give you a little inside on it. Crushing longtime yes i love of all the joe rogan podcast for the most part because they do give you insights on people that are really doing well in their industries and everything kind of overlaps with each other like whether it's music artists or a famous author or podcast i mean everybody. That's working hard on their passion. You can find something relatable in the conversation so i usually addict through joe. Rogan's gary v's skinny confidential like i love you've a lot of the comedian podcast to like. I'm a big kristalina fan. I love listening to congratulations the a little bit at theo von for sure some whiskey ginger every now and then but this is the last and final question and this one's going to be. I think my favorite question who is your favorite artist. I it could be anyone. That's not with us anymore could be someone you follow on instagram. Whose art do you like. Do you want in your house. Zeo ziegler and you know what i may be saying. I think of mispronounces last name pronounced everything. It's okay to it's it's zeo z. A. uh-huh ziegler z. i. e. g. l. e._r. sounds right or zeigler zeigler could be he's actually i'm pretty sure native to the west coast but his work to me is he's another one of those artists that but he doesn't really need the platform i think he's done so well on his own and through galleries he's and things like that that you know that's his path but i've admired his work from the one thing they wanted to ask you this when you were talking about the galleries triggered my mind is what thinks tough there is. You're saying like the person who's running. That gallery is making the decision but art so personal so it's hard right i mean i guess you have to have some type of filter then everybody could get in the gallery but yeah well the the gallery's going to represent someone just like <hes> agencies going to represent a model or a talent in <music> any area so there is a they take the fifty fifty split was a little much yeah really quick the artists that you just mentioned. How would you describe his art is it black and white is a lot of color but you know what i mean. He has a big variety but very colorful alert full very abstract but it's it's coordinated abstract like you can find you know there's a flow through. It's it's not like a splatter paint like a laker or anything like that. You can actually see figure like a sub-conscious type painting and that's actually the the latest painting that i'm working on happen shared it with anyone yet. It's based off of the way that he has his painting style which is like painting from the subconscious. Whatever comes comes to mind at the time feel like it's not so strategic where i do have paintings that are more strategic where i've sketched them <hes> yeah how about williams got just a tattoo of me for your ass michael. Well listen i want him to my name's don't on his side to penn pierre south outwear. Can everyone find you. Give us your website and both your instagram's website. William tyler story dot com instagram is p. P. e. a. c. e. o. t. and then i have a private the i._p. Gallery page william toddler's story on instagram. Don't be fighting sliding into his d._m._z. As the girlfriend dies and taylor youtube don't get creepy. Thank you for coming on. Thank you so much how to bless <music> happy friday guys. Thank you so much for listening to the skinny confidential hem in her podcast. 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The Day We Want 3-Day Weekends

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show

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The Day We Want 3-Day Weekends

"You know, people say necessity is the mother of invention. But that's not always true. Sometimes the mother of invention is advertising. Yeah. Or pure accident. How about ego maniacal delusion? Absolutely. Or just a desperate longing. To be cool. I'm Robert lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick. Who are the hosts of the science podcasts stuff to blow your mind. And now we're branching off into the exploration of invention. Invention is the story of human history told one piece of technology at a time the things we made and how they made us invention publishes every Monday, listen and subscribe to invention on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you find your podcasts. I think Elvis is hilarious on the spot. He always has something funny to say, oh my God. Hysterical. Funny. They will make me smile confusing. My gosh, I'm to be on the phone with you right now all the excitement is. Bye. Bye. That other people have used to love the feeling the Q tip in my ear. Hysterical, hysterical. I love it. Pipe and smell. In the morning show. Well, we made it to win. We did that you know what? Greg tease saying already this whole great tea in front. An ad campaign that came out years ago, they're still diving in it. Welcome to Wednesday wherever you're listening to us. I if it's a New Yorker, Philadelphia or oh my gosh. South Florida or Cleveland or I off anywhere. Wherever you are. You're listening to us on hot one hundred Arthur third day on the air there. Wow. I love it. So wherever you are. Thank you for listening today. We don't have any guests. So it's just is sorry. If you want your money back, just go ahead and see Lydia the front gate. Who do you want to start with? Oh, no. I don't know if any of these songs. Try little bit on this. No. The feeling this. All right. Pretty also. The new station. It's playing our show taught one hundred attempting roads Bryant genu-, it's one hundred when they do traffic. They call it. Hot mess traffic. What's that? That's what all traffic should be calling. Traffic is a hot totally now dumpster fire traffic. Anyway, so good to have some new people listening love that hair. First caller today is Missy let's go talk to Missy. I believe on beautiful tropical Staten Island. How are you? Hi, good. How are you guys doing? Well, you have some sort of argument brewing in your your home. What's going on? Yes. I need you guys to settle a debate for me between me and my husband. It's been going on for here. So when someone calls in and guys give them a t shirt, and and they ask you to sign it. What did they say say? Would you please ruin it for us? Yeah. Ruin sounds like two syllables right ruin. So I think ruin my husband says. Really, it some people if he's from Staten Island, you have to give him a pass because they don't know how to talk. Will you ruin it for you know, if you just say they were Rune won't understand what he's saying? Okay. But technically, you're correct. It's are you ruin ruin for the win. Hold on MRI. What do you get out of this? You've won this. Missy. Lifelong satisfaction. That my husband says to say, right? Well, you know, what we're gonna do granison YouTube search we're going to rule yours every what we're going to Rune your husband. Oh. Like that. Awesome. Thank you for listening. Thanks for being the first caller of the day. Missy I have a beautiful to shirts. Thanks, guys. Thank you GARRETT'S at can take care of MRI. Let's go around the room. Danielle what's on your mind night. I got to go to dancing with the stars at Radio City Music hall, and our boy, Bobby bones took the stage. It was his last show. He he's not doing the roadshow anymore. And I have to say a lot of times, you know, when your parent and your kids get older like they're teenagers. You don't find things to bond with them anymore. Try to find something to bond with your child with because my son, and I had the best time. He's thirteen we bonded even at the end of the nineties. Mom, I had the best time with. Almost made me want to cry. It's still important to try to keep bonding with your kids, even though you know, I know four-night takes over their lives a lot of time. But it just we had the best time. Thank you to the cast dancing with the stars. And everybody Radio City. It was amazing. Forget agree. Had so much. I keep trying to bond with schnauzer. Yeah. All he wants to do is chew on bone. Little bonding daddy maxi chew on a bone again. Hey, they're gone. What's up with you today? All right. The cell that you recommended to me tidying up has taken over my life. And I've downloaded multiple apps to start getting rid of my stuff. And now, I'm like obsessing over. But now, you're collecting apps now, you're gonna yes, I right. I'm going to have to change it. But now I'm trying to sort things and my camera is full of pictures of random clothing items in my closet. I've electron all this stuff. And I'm obsessing like, ooh, this have been on it. What's happening? It's taking my life to a different level of crazy. Tidy if you're gonna make some cash gonna go crazy Elvis? You're obsessed with just walk in and bless your house. Every time you walk in. If something doesn't spark joy get rid of stuff doing pay producer Sam what's going on with you today. Did you guys know that this month is national mentoring month because I had no idea but super important, and I'm considering volunteering to mentor a child, do you think this is a bad idea for me? Yes. Not at all. No. No one. Yes. It would be a bad idea for Gandhi. Okay. Fair enough. I am I'm looking into big brothers and sisters, and I might I might try and be a big sister. That'd be awesome excited. It's like having a kid with no stretch marks. Breastfeeding requires? Going to keep you guys posted by diving in this month, very excited. Do the right thing. We all look like a bunch of Chinooks poor kid. Hey, froggy and beautiful, south Florida. What's going on with you? Well, speaking of Danielle's family bonding time, I've realized that one of our new family bonding time things to do is we sit around and laugh at the dogs tonight on Instagram story. I loaded a couple clips of the dogs last night. We laughed so hard watching these to play that. I really I looked around them. Like, this is so perfect. We had so much fun. Just sitting there laughing at the dogs, and they were fighting over one toy one dog had the other dog Mon, but it was entertaining all night long. And so I just love watching my pups play that's nine. They don't know what you're laughing at we were laughing so hard like I listen to the video this morning, and it just hear the pure laughter. Going on is just awesome. It's so fun. I think everyone needs a dog. Yeah. I'll keep my cats. Sam about to get a kid. Yeah. Time child I then dog. That's what people do right? Rocky ruin Rex. Meanwhile, god. Getting rid of blouses and things horse. Horse today with Gandhi today. Congratulations gone to your shows one very excited if you are celebrating birthday today, you're celebrating with lin-manuel maranda and Kate moss. Capricorn it's time to explore a new hobby. Try writing drawing or maybe both you might just find a hidden talent. Your day is a seven Aquarius a meaningful conversation with a loved one could change your outlook on life. Try to remain open minded days. Eight Pisces you may find yourself running into a familiar face. Don't be afraid to take a chance and reconnect your day is nine areas. It's time to get in touch with your inner humanitarian volunteering could prove awarding. Let's pretend that's all of our horoscopes. Taurus, it's your time to shine at work. Don't be shy. Others will admire your initiative your day is an eight. Gemini, you're the master of multitasking. But remember to give yourself a break you've earned it your days, seven cancer. Remember to always be yourself. Don't let the opinions of others. Get you down your days, a seven Leo be kind to everyone around. Good karma is just around the corner days and eight Virgo it's not easy to admit when you're wrong. But those around you will appreciate the truth. Your day is a seven libra. You're feeling adventurous embrace this feeling and plan spontaneous trip your days. Eight Scorpio even sacrificing a lot for your loved ones. Your hard work does not go a notice it will all pay off soon your days nine and Sagittarius. It's time to have that conversation. You've been avoiding express yourself, honestly. And the reaction of your peers will be a positive one your days ten and those are your Wednesday morning or. Keep rolling. All right. It's now dates six of the longest government shutdown in history. Thousands of federal employees will have to keep working without pay a Washington DC judge tonight a request to pay air traffic controllers who are working for free thing that allowing essential employees not to come to work and paying them would create chaos and confusion. How would you like it? If we firm. Actually, we just stop paying you. But you had to come to work. I wouldn't be happy with it. And we've talked about this yesterday. There's a website called pay it furlough dot com where you can go and buy beer for some of these furloughed employees. If you feel the need to beer for people who are traff air, traffic controller. Yeah. The keg the tower great flan fatty Florida authorities say a teenager on a cruise ship fell to his death after he lost his footing on the balcony of a room on his cruise ship. He was sixteen years old apparently didn't have the key to his room. So he tried to get into a balcony neighboring room flipped while the ship was docked in Haiti. A Brooklyn chef is dead and two others critically injured in a hammer attack. Police say a hammer wielding man entered the seaport buffet yesterday, attacking the owner chef in another employee customer say he was screaming things. Like, I'm killing everybody. The world is hell that suspect is in custody with charges pending it looks like Sears. We'll be staying in business chairman Eddie Lampert has reportedly prevailed with his bid of five point two billion dollars. Allowing the Sears stores to stay open and save about fifty thousand jobs and bad news for all of us net. Flicks announced its biggest price hike since the company began twelve years ago. Most people can expect it to go about two dollars a month, which might not sound like a big deal. But when you take all these accounts, it's a lot of. Money, personally, I blamed friends because they acquired it for one hundred million dollars this year. Not even watch that show. I blend people like you who share your account with everyone on shares. Counting. It gives me the. Is right. But when I open it, it says is this you is it or is it kids. So I can share it with at least two people to find their own. They said thirteen dollars a month for Netflix. I still think that's a lot of entertainment for thirty definitely ready for your Wednesday. Scary. I think that. Can you get upset? I don't know what. Hey. Hit this. Elvis Duran and the morning show. I swear didn't matter what your age is according to the government, and your ID and your passport. Alex. I got out of bed this morning. Alex. Don't forget make the bed today. In the reason, we make the bed on Wednesdays because our friend Jan over Wednesday's trains at the house. Right. She tries to keep it in order. And I don't want to know how we really live. Can you make the I straightened up MC laws? We all the dishes in this washer, so that part's clean. He's what do we clean up? She didn't do it and just make the bed. Just him Texas. Good morning. Make the bed now. So we sent me a video of Kevin McAllister jumping on his bed. Homologue make the bet is he not entering calling to scold him. He's probably in the shower. I don't understand why we do this. It's like when you move you fix up your house to sell it like, you know, really really should have fixed it up when you live there. Like, why don't you clean it while you're there? So you can enjoy it clean instead of cleaning it before somebody else comes to clean. I know. At least it gives us that one day a week that we straighten it up a little bit. I get it's fine. Yeah. I remember when I was growing up. My mom was a wake-up. Why you got to clean your room as they're coming to clean the house today? We don't mommy doesn't want them to know how we live. The same exact thing I will clean extra in the morning that I know the housekeepers coming because I don't want the cleaning lady to no I live like a pig. Just polite to. Hey, hi, I am Kate. At least you're cleaning those. The bed. No, come on Alex make the bed. Why do I have to make it our friends come over to my house because I don't want her to have to make the bet I wanted to that we make the every day that's the aluminum to create I know, but just please make. But this makes no sense. You don't wash your car before you go to the car wash like you cling house for somebody to clean it stand free. I'm gonna give you okay, I'm gonna give the ladies one example. And they'll start to see what my point you ready for this. What I do before you go to the colleges, exactly. He's about to clean it. He's not a washing. You make sure clean. The dentist you always brush your teeth like fifty times. So please, I'm begging you all you have to make the bed. Everything else is done by headline moment. Thank you sentenced to make a better than she could do it. Now. That you've called me while I'm brushing my teeth. You just five minutes out of my time. So. We went to choose invitations yesterday. And boy that that's. Anyway. All right love you have a great day make the bed by he's the only adult that he goes now like a little kid. I love it. It's not funny. I hate it. Yes. So we went to this really really cool place where they do invitations for weddings, and I was blown away. But what was so terrifying? Wasn't the fact that these people are the best making beautiful invitations? But it really kind of drove at home that this is really happening. So I was like. Are they going to be on gold plated invitations like whale requested? No darn it. It's not going to be like the part of the Grammy party that we get invited to I wanted to collector's item. No, no, no, not like that. But we just send an e. I mean, not we've made member my Matiz. We actually made them ourselves. They were like little stick people. Remember with little hearts and stuff. People like them. Sure that will cost less. If we should look into that. Anyway, H as we start to plan this thing, it's not till September. Right. Every little move. We make makes it seem a little more real. It's one day closer every day, look producer Sam does so excited for you. I gotta live vicariously through other people. Don't look at me like that. You don't think you're gonna get married one day one day, but that day is like a fairytale long. People are texting and saying we don't blame him with Alex on this one. He shouldn't have to make the bed. Make the bed make three seconds of polish sheets on take that long. All right. Straightening. I disagree with you on this bed making your let's try to keep it in here. But when you it doesn't take three seconds because when you half ass make a bed. It looks worse than when the beds on may. It looks like you've tried and failed. My bed takes it. Takes a little those throw pillows and thing I make great bed. How many? I give great bed. Throw pillows. I mean. No, it's very very it's a great band elaborate hunting too close to the dry cleaner. Can you clean them? First before we take them. No, it's not. Stupid. Broken. I'm gonna fix it ticket to the jets. I want to look nice. Let's. Let's go feel good. Yes. Producers, right? John Pearson submitted today's feel-good after he heard of something just lovely happy happening in his community. So eight year olds Perry Miller from North Carolina was visiting family all the way in Utah. When it was discovered that he had a brain tumor. He was sent for emergency surgery. And now he and his family are staying put in Utah. So he can finish getting his treatment. Everything went well. One of the hardest. Parts of all this. However is that Perry's German shepherd Frank was still back home the family posted this hardship to Facebook. When former truck driver Robert Reynolds sought and decided to volunteer to dry Frank over two thousand miles. So that he could be with his buddy as he recovers Robert has never met the family and said, I never questioned why I was doing it or anything like that. I just knew something had to be done. And that I could do it adorable. Little photo. Got Frank German shepherd. This buddy reunited so adorable. You definitely got to look at the photo of these guys. Thank you so much John for the submission and Perry where with ya. We hope you recover, and we are so glad you're with your best buddy right now. And if you have a story that deserves to be featured, Email me, salmon Elvis, Duran dot com. Subject line feel-good. Thank you Sam. All right. A new announcement, the Hulo, lady, t shirts and sweat shirts. We have to visit that oh in a second. Did you get yours? Yeah. Yeah. Something to add to that fun. That's coming up any guess tonight. Oh, that's right. We don't have any guests. Now that makes me happy. His personal Instagram account. Follow him now Elvis Duran. I think I'm ready to start a modeling career. Durant in the morning show. Hey, it's Danielle look into WW. It's Weight Watchers reimagined. It's wellness that works for every body. Don't wait any longer feel great. Join today for free start today at radio WW dot com. Purchase required. Restrictions apply. Text us fifty five one hundred and we might put you on the air. Standard data and messaging rates may apply. It's Elvis Duran and the morning show. Grantee what are you doing on the show today? Actually, I'm doing you're sitting there. Yeah. Let me show you watch. Let me show this doing, okay. Put your feet up. Oh, that's what you're doing. You're gonna put your feet up doing nothing. Kind of like what you did yesterday and the day before. Why today is national nothing day. Good. Great t day. All right. All right. So you're gonna do nothing. All right. By doing nothing, you're doing something. Questions. I don't want you to do anything to sit there. How do you get paid every? Do you get paid every comedy pure comedy? I've seen that yet. Which national do nothing day was right up. My alley window. Kathleen. Can you commit for a second? We're so excited as you know, we started selling our, Hello, lady, t shirts and sweat shirts. And we sold out. We ran out of them. But we raised I believe over twenty thousand dollars for Trevor project, but I hear rumor they're back on sale is this true. Are you go to Elvis dot com? The right there on the homepage. And you can get your own. I wore mine to spin last night. And it looked so good in the purple light on my bike. Wow. Like lady, and I was like moving like looking at my sweatshirt, and I was like, yeah. Hello, lady will your sweatshirt to spin. Yeah. You weren't sweating. You're you know, what's he's all know. That's when you burn more calories. Burn it off. It's usually wear trash bag, but. Nauseous one in anyway, so glad he didn't should have a Hello ladies trash bag. Go-to Elvis, Duran dot com are Hello, ladies shirts and pullover. Sweatshirt on sale limited quantity. Proceeds still going to Trevor project. Aren't we gearing up for some new merch pretty soon? Yes, you're Sistan Andrew, and I are working on stuff guest in the works. We're we're official T shirt designers. Now gonna add that resume, by the way. I'm glad you're in here will Kathleen true, the rumors true that you actually write yourself a love note every day. Yes. Absolutely. You gotta you gotta stay on top of your game. You gotta do your daily affirmations positive efforts to give me an example of what kind of note, you write yourself. So sometimes on my MIR. Right. Well, you look great today. But right at the night before. So actually don't know how to look in the morning or just like fun positive quotes. Like, you got this or your bus babe, you know, stuff like that. And then my husband wakes up looks at it. And he says, oh, boss. Would you yell at him? No. That's fine. Yeah. I sent you an Email about this poem that went viral over the weekends. I don't know if you did you see it. Yes. So I was busy this weekend. You know, how everybody is new year new me and trying to lose weight and trying to set their intentions for the year. Well, this poem when when violets by a poet a writer named Holly Holden. And it was all about asking her body. What she needed? Do. You want me to read it for you really quickly. Okay. So she said today, I asked my body what she needed which is a big deal considering my journey of not really asking that much. I thought she might need more water or more protein or more greens are more yoga or supplements or movement. But as I stood in the shower reflecting on her stretch marks around us where I with like flatness and her softness, I would like fitness those conditions, those condition wishes that form of bundle of never quite right Ness. She whispered very gently could you love me, just like this. Isn't that a really like it's still a little more protein wooden? Cyber. Yeah. This this may sound like such a foreign thing to think about for a lot of people, but went to last you actually stop down in like said something nice to yourself. And I know that sounds really like I'm not telling you go hug a tree saver way. All I'm just saying it wasn't definitely one this morning. I have I line on one. I and not on the other when I woke up it was like, oh smudged. I looked at the mirror, and I go holy hell how you gonna fix this. Sometimes you just gotta let it go. Have I was trying to embrace my bald spot the other day. Kevin. And I'm like, it doesn't bother me. First of all, I can't see it. But I know it's there it's behind me. Quickness following you would ever who cares. We've got a great lives. The universe is pretty cool to us. You know, we're okay. And it's all right. What did it be fun? If listeners called in and said, something really nice about themselves just to start their day off with a little bit of positivity. I think. Never mind. It'd be a ratings grabber. I really feel like the word for two thousand nineteen is mindfulness and saying nice things to yourself. First thing in the morning is all part of that picture of mindfulness. Going back to something of always said, let yourself off the hook. It's actually taking it mindfulness to a next step everyone ever, you knew something that pisses someone else off or you you piss yourself off whatever something if you gotta go. Whoa. Okay. It's over we move on. We're going to live on let myself off the hook. And that's a difficult thing for some people to all right, go somewhere shirts. Kathleen, everyone swimming in an ocean of positivity. There's inter some noise I'm hearing it sounds like do you hear that? Like the furniture makes loud noise. But your microphone. Nate you have your do you hear that? Yeah. Yeah. When I hit the table your microphone on turn your microphone down. I think he just had to turn his mic Afon off. Okay. Attorney mike. I know, but it shouldn't do that. Shouldn't don't we live in a day and age where we shouldn't have to hear that could have anything you want? You wanna fix fixed? Jeff get down here to fix it. Right now, we're giving nothing. I am nothing. Get out of here. Jeff. All right. Thank you. Gregory. The first look at Daniels. Danielle report today. Quest. Do you wanna talk about anything in particular? Decide at the end. Can we talk about how I am friends later. Okay. So I know it's an unpopular opinion. I don't like the show. Anyway, I really gave it a shot. I think it's terrible. Now, she can. Yeah. She can go ahead. Netflix now raised all of our subscriptions about two dollars a pop per month. And I think it's because of friends and those people make enough money as it is. And now they're coming into my pockets, the pay more for this terrible show that I don't even watch your sane because of people who like friends, you're paying more for Netflix all of you in this room. So usually maybe rather than raising the race. They should just charge people to watch friends. I think that's exactly how it took tariff. Say do you want to watch friends? And if I say, no, find cool year subscription says the same guys can I'll pay for it. I never liked friends in there. For people were mad at me. No, it's not corny. Corny. Oh, I can't even talk to any more. I just is friends frowns. Okay. All right. So. Sighted 'cause I've got Joe. You don't know this about Danielle she loves gym on I guess it based on the laptop cover that I stare at everyday that says Jumanji. Pretty much Bill Glover has joined the cast of gemology. Welcome to the jungle the single his role is being kept under wraps as in the story line. He will start opposite. Of course, the rock, Jack black Kevin Hart. Karen, Gillan all of whom will be back. I'm also hearing Aquafina is in final negotiations for really cool part in the movie, and you already know Danny de Vito has joined the cast. So it is exciting, and I cannot wait net. Flicks has announced it's what we said biggest price hike in its twelve year history. The most popular plan will go from eleven to thirteen dollars. That's two dollars more per month, which is twenty four dollars per year. See, I don't blame friends. I blame people like Gandhi who share their count information with everybody. And so they want more money, I pay the premium so I can share. Me fifty people. To what I let. So it's only going up two dollars more per month says like twenty four dollars per month for the premium pack premium a year. Yeah. Yeah. Total the twelve to two dollars a great question. All right. Go ahead because he steals it. I knew Ghostbusters movie is in the works. It's going to follow up the first two it's going to ignore the twenty sixteen all female version, which I loved I thought that was such a I don't know why I liked it. It's going to be directed by the son of the man who did the first two no word on the cast yet and riana is swing her dad Ronald Fendi. She said he's trying to use the family name to explain her fame in her own business ventures now Fenway, entertainment, which she is associated with allegedly tried to book concerts for her without authorisation and using her name to solicit millions of dollars from third parties. So she is filed a lawsuit. She is not happy. Did you guys? See the new spider man trailer. Is it biter man meets Nick fury zendaya posted it yet? Spider man, far from home, July fifth. That's what we're getting the movie. And if you haven't seen the trailer check it out tonight on television, the mass singer. We'll find out who another one of these singers Fatone says it's not him. He's gonna say that you think he's going to come out and say, yes, it's me. Role in the whole thing for us match games on also yes, what is on the fifth season premiere of poops creek, ten pm Shitsu, creeks creek. I'm excited even season. One season is here tonight. This is us a season premiere last night. They want you to cry your watch, we will cry. I didn't. And I haven't of course, record DVR. So I will watch it at home. When I have a lot of time yesterday. I rented a time. He's going on came on NBC after Ellen's game of game. I love that show. That's a fun show. I wanna play on Ellen's game of game came of games him a game. This is back to he hasn't seen it you. Let us know. After you. See I promise I'm sorry. It's not this. You will cry is the name of the song show. Twitter account of the morning show. Search for Elvis Durant show on Twitter. Follow us now. LV Stu rain in the morning show. Oh. Connective world, it takes just one weak link and your personal information can get into the wrong hands. Good thing. Lifelock would Norton now has protection for your identity in devices. Join at lifelock dot com and use promo code Elvis for an extra ten percent off your first year. All right. So we've all seen bird box by now. Ryan. You haven't seen it? You know? My husband says sucks don't watch. Oh, you should you should give it a try. It's interesting. Okay. I'm not I'm not gonna ruin anything for you. But you do know. I mean, everyone knows that it has to do with putting a blindfold on getting through. So there's a restaurant out in Jericho Long Island right called the millage end and over Jeddah as what Greg t got married. Yes. The Miller Bridgen Miller rampage Mel Rijn. Okay. Anyway, diners can go in in have. Totally blindfolded dinner. And you have to remain silent during the entire dinner allow nowhere to stab your food. Just the way it is. Okay. You just do now. Because I went to one actually I went to an incredible fundraiser dinner one night where they turned off all the lights, and they totally blackened the ballroom even one of these now, but I remember us talking about it. It was incredible. And a lot of the most of the people who were serving the food were visually impaired people who are part of this incredible organization that we learn what was like to eat in total darkness right anyway. So what they're doing? They're saying only is it completely dark because you have a blindfold on. But you can't say anything, that's crazy or. Bring up the buck and don't wear white to that. Because forget it. You're supposed to remain totally silent outgrow to gonna complain if something's wrong. I'm not going to pick up the scallions. Can you send it began send it back? I guess. I think it was kind of fun about it is this shows, you how pop culture kind of dictates these little quirky things that will do. I mean, what are some of the things we've done in the past. When a big movie comes out and then. Because a lot of people are also speaking of bird box. We saw in the news the other day where someone actually put a blindfold on. And tried to drive and got into a car accident that not supposed to do that. You're talked about that right Gandhi. Did. Yeah. A girl in Utah was the first to get busted for it when she crashed. And then she got cited for reckless driving. But thank God. Nobody was hurt. So remember way way back when sex in the city was out. We were all drinking Cosmo's. Yes. Skew member scary. Real quick breaking bad came out. We were all going out into the desert and cooking up meth. The only one we all are trailer desert. Blew up. Surpri remember, my friend was his out. I walked a guy that used to recognize. For the way. Explain what that me. You know, what that means? Doni any explain what you say. No. I've been reading more and more of this four day workweek thing, I really think we should should partake. Now agree question about this before they were react. Do you think it should be? You have the Monday off the Friday off or some people would like a little break in the window Wednesday right in the middle. So what would you want? I would definitely want an extended weekend. Monday. Yes. Okay. So Friday or Monday, we'd take Fridays off from. I think we should Mondays. All yeah. Everybody loves Friday. Mondays like bull who wants that? Right. So we would you would have Saturday Sunday and Monday's off every I could take that. Like, I do more work, and I'm more productive. When we take a Monday off in the week is shorter. I'm happier. I have a pep in my step. I do more work when I'm here. So they might get more out of me if I was only here four days a week versus five. Okay. See just say let me know how that argument works. Yes. And I've read that actually studies have proven that on Fridays. I think people actually just stop working at like one in the afternoon so half of the days already wasting. So we were three and a half days three and a half days a lot of companies dislike refund. Seriously, something news going out. Fridays are the number one day people would prefer to have off for the three day weekend. Okay. Right. So there you have it. Some people also are Dopp being instead, I know we can't do it. But there they'll do the five days, but because the companies are trying to save a little money, you work, less hours. So instead of getting the Friday off you you don't work eight hours, you'll work maybe five hours four hours. Yeah. To we don't leave right after the show. A lot of times we have other things that we have to do. Yeah. They were all having a big party. We are. Yeah. We have a meeting right any meeting. What's up scary? This more going on to me on a Thursday night at a Sunday night. Therefore, rather have Friday's oh with me. Okay. Well, okay. Yeah. The student noted duly noted. All right. Thursday nights scary ones. This is only about what nights are the best night's to have all this is about like. Yeah. If we. A vote. I think fry Mondays off at probably win. Then you don't get the Sunday blues. I get the Sunday blues around one o'clock in the afternoon. Monday Monday does anyway. The only problems if you take Mondays off. Yeah. A lot of holidays fall on. So we'd have to move memorial data Tuesday just take Tuesday to because we got money already and we take Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. And right how many days off in the year? Are we going to miss out on if we take Mondays off? I think there's probably three or four Martin Luther King day day Memorial Day. These are very very important dates for us to be focusing on with the day is about, but if you already have it off presidents day that's four that's five great teaches an article from consumer affairs. That says according to science Wednesday is the best day to take off. That's what they are saying they're saying that you'd need that mid week break moving on you have an anniversary you have with your loved ones. What about when you break up with them? Would you ever have a break-up for versus Branka versus brick break-up versus the break up of her Serie up. I I could see that happening. I've seen a lot of divorce parties I feel like out and about and just having a great time. And I'm like, I wonder if they remember this day now more than when they got married. Yeah. We see if you haven't been through a lot of what a lot of us have been through. It was not that big of a deal. But have you like me ever been through a up that was so monumental? The break-up was probably bigger than the day that you started seeing each other. I mean, it was like the most wonderful day relief in your life. Have you ever? If you have if you haven't. That's cool. That's cool. I don't wish it on anyone. Something was lifted off your shoulders, right? Like this. I was reading about the break-up versus yesterday. And I'm like, oh, God, I've got a pinpoint that date, and I have the date. Oh, I have it in my calendar parties. Yeah. It really it was fabulous day in my life. What's scary? Why would you commemorate something negative? It's not negative pi day my life to make a decision to move on. Forget the day. They broke up. Okay. Well, you can the other end of the break up, and you didn't want it. Then you're not celebrating. But if you did the breaking up in its positive, then you know, tha positive being able to get the guts to move on go on froggy you've been in one of those relationships. Have remember that girl? Yes. I do their girl before Lisa absolutely took me a long time to get out of that relationship. But you know, what it's the best thing. I ever did for both me and her exactly daybreak. It's not all negativity. I mean, it's always happy. Breakup. Her sad. I get that. You don't want anyone to be upset or sad. But the fact that you've pulled. Pulled out of this thing. And you've got the guts to move forward and take care of yourself. Yeah. That's a positive. Totally agree. I might ex boyfriend who I'd aided for a very long time. He and I could never decide on what are aaniversary date was that. We would like move it around all the time. But I remember clearly the day that he moved out and it wasn't because I was celebrating. I just for some reason it was data biggie Smalls died too. Because I was like the worst day for everyone. I see your point. Hey, Lee, you actually did a brake vacation what a great idea. Yeah. We were together for a couple of years. And then we're like it's not really working for now. So we went to key west of the week I'll together. Yeah. Okay. So you pick up, and then you went on vacation together. Yeah. It was like, well, we know this is ending how much fun. I have. I have actually that bold. Pretty cool have break-up sex on the -cation. Not with each other. Right. Exactly. We stayed friends for a little while. We actually we ended up getting back together. Eventually, but there's a lot of fun while I'm always envious a little bit of when I hear about a relationship like that. Because with me, it's always been great great. Great going right now. There was never any lingering. I for me. We'll good for you. If you can pull that off if you can pull off a brand Cup like that. That's good. That's all right Lee. Thank you very much. Whereas Sarah boom here. She is. Hi, sarah. Hey, so you had an amazing divorce party. I did my friends took me down to Philadelphia went to Chinatown had an awesome karaoke night, headache headache that show debris taking to trash out. It was awesome. Excellent. Philadelphia. Thank you for coming down. That's great. So. Was there any moment during your festive divorce party that you were a little sad. Or was it just all fun and games? Now the best couple years in my marriage when eight so it was really just ration- as being able to be me and take care of the kids put my life back together. And just celebrate being happy. Again, if you're going to be on the launch pad ready to take off to outer space getting out of a relationship like where am I going to go in outer space? I don't know. All ino- is I'm ready to fly. Yeah. My my divorce is done or my break-up has done. I don't know. It really means. But I'm gonna start like this acknowledging it lighting, a candle sparklers, and I'm gonna put on pasties. Thank. You know what I'm saying? All right, sir. Thank you, technically. If you're wearing pasties. No are you making if you weren't pasties? Yeah. Has to win the cop pulled as the district attorney, Christina. By low. So you have a break-up versity. Yes. My coming up in four days, and I just reflected on this past year, and I lost over forty five pounds and that pushed me to create a better lifestyle for myself. And I am so thankful because he broke up with me. And he never did that. I don't think I've ever made that decision and that change in my life. Good for you. This is this is a thing. You can actually learn about relationships through break-up. Yeah. You can go back to you can look at the relationship you're leaving and go, you know, I wasn't really living for me at all. Right. But can you imagine how successful that relationship could have been head? You been living for yourself. In addition to living for each other. You know what I'm saying? And I listen to you every single morning on my way to work and rapid phone perr year when I was going through that break up. I listen to every advice that you guys were talking about. And I was just like, wow. Like, it is so true. You know, you really have to think about it. And sometimes it's not negative really positive. But when you're in that time, it's very nerve. It's sad. But you really got to let time go on. And really reflect that it's a good thing. Right. It is especially people who are living through abusive relationships be physical or emotional abuse. You know, what it's time. It's time for you to live your own life because you're sort of abusing your. Yourself by by not looking at it for what it is. You know, and I'm not I'm not here saying that being the victim is the bad thing. Right. But I'm saying being the victim at an awful thing you deserve so much better than that. And it's not an it's complicated. You can't just all up in an abusive relationship. I'm going to get out of it. Now. I know it's not that easy. But you deserve better than that. And you and you got forty five pounds. You feel pretty good about yourself. Yeah. And I'm I'm preparing for the half marathon in may. So I'm super excited about that. All I couldn't even do like an eighth marathon same. Do anything, but your mind to all right? I gotta find my mind. Great tika, do it. And he did it. The return lames salve. He can do it. You get a half marathon about halfway through. And like fed is not the best idea ever had. You do a train for it. Frogging resented, congratulations. Thanks for listening to us. Thank you Bye-bye Bye-bye. Again, if you or someone you know is living through an abusive relationships relationship, find find someone find a buddy to talk to find someone to help you get through this thing and figure it out it is complicated. But you you can actually do something about it. While. So peace and love and in warmth to everyone who's out there going through that let's get into your headlines Gandhi. What's going on activists in New Jersey want the State Athletic association to fire? The wrestling ref who forced a high school wrestler to cut off his dreadlocks or forfeit the match. We all saw that video the call for referee. Alain Moloney to be let go is getting louder. Now, people are asking that he lose his ref to his license to ref for good. He's not officiating while he awaits the outcome of these investigations and Ohio doctor is accused of giving fatal doses of painkillers to over two dozen patients who are near death. Oh, that's nice. The terrible. An internal investigation found that Dr William Houston gave twenty seven patients higher doses of painkillers than they needed to be comfortable in their final days. The Oklahoma City public school district is allowing medical marijuana to be administered on its campuses, the new policy says it schools can't store the medical marijuana for students in school personnel. Cannot legally administer it. But they will be able to do it on private locations by caregivers. If the kids need it. Pacific Gas in electric will declare bankruptcy by the end of the month. But they say they are not going out of business. This company is facing an estimated thirty billion dollars in liabilities from a series of devastating wildfires over the last two years. We remember those wildfires in California wiped out all kinds of stuff state law does require that. They get fifteen day notice to employees before they file, but they say it's coming soon. In. Apparently, there's a new craze bubbling up on social media. And this one is a doozy. Apparently, people are drinking their own p because someone told them it was healthy. The myth says it. I thought you weren't supposed to drink your own right or anyone else's. What else I read one time here in the forest like with somebody else stranded, you're better off to drink. There's than your own because you're talks Senate. And I read that it has to be the first of the day after you wake up from a long sleeve and has to be that one. It's all nonsense because your therapy. Even though people are trying to say can cure diseases and heal your body. Science says, no it is not true. In fact, drinking you're in construction kidneys, do not do it. No matter what the internet is telling you to do. Don't do. Okay. Okay. If you the vice. Right now. My my last one. Oh my gosh. Don't even. Okay. Moving on moving on. We have a phone tap away. Back Wednesday phone tap who does it David Brody. David Brody, the king of phone taps. In the morning show. Exhausted after a busy day, but you can't fall asleep while that recently happened to me, so I tried new drug free Z qual pure Z's melatonin Gumy's to help me fall asleep naturally, and let me tell you. I woke up totally refreshed and ready for the show. You've gotta try them. Elvis to Randy Elvis Durant phone tap. Here. We go with the phone tap. You know, what let's give someone on the phone and make them mad. The letter came in saying, dear Elvis Duran. My husband Kevin is doing a whole lot of work in our front yard. He is our entire front lawn area by the sidewalk ripped up putting a new sprinkler pipes in, you know, it's just a big mess. I've been nagging him for over six months to fix it up because it's an eyesore for the neighborhood. The sprinkler. Pipes are blocking the sidewalk you can't walk by on the street without walking through mud. It's just a mess. So knowing that my my husband Kevin worked very hard as a police officer. He insists on doing the sprinkler job himself. He's very hard headed that way. Let's teach him a lesson one. Did you call him as someone who's sick and tired of our front yard mess? He'll freak. This comes to us from Susan. All right. David Brody is going to do the phone tap with Susan listening in on the other line Susan's gonna start out with a call to her husband. Let's listen in to today's phone tap. Heaven. Yeah, there's a guy. He just call me. His name is Eddy. He's flipping out about the front yard. He's he's pissed off. His kid keeps walking in the dark. I gave him your cell phone number. Right. Just talked to him, please. You're a cop. I can't I can't deal with this. I'm like shaking. He was all pissed off. Yelling at me. Right. He's now k. Yes, this Kevin. Yeah. Kevin. My name is Eddie your wife. Tell you. I was calling. Yes. She just called me. My son Steven goes to initial and I park on your block sometimes drive in the school. What the hell's going on with your house? Go contact the police if you have an issue, listen, I've seen you day. You one of those rent a cop guys, right? Why can't you deal with it? Right. The cop value talking about other local police once you finish the damn thing when I get to get to been working on for like six months now. No, some I'm working on a lot of other stuff. Like what the rest of the house doesn't look so great. What are you working on? Where do you live where are you living? What rich I don't remember where I live living in a house. I take care of it. Yeah. My lawn is mode and the mess dirt everywhere. Ripping off the sidewalk. That's right. Why don't you complain about the people put the fake out like home vibe around town? You'll see the fake grass. That's a wooded. At least I'm doing the right way. My ribbon up the street. How long does it take to plant grass right now takes a while to stock Rowan seed, another sake such get the real stuff do like a man doing like a man? So you help crap my half dozen look like Kraft doesn't I never seen before. So you maybe we should maybe do some research before you start arguing you're out of your mind. Some of the police twenty put the complaining we'll handle that way. We're gonna warehouse when yes security guy that that's it. I was security guard. Yeah. You know, what I'm in front of your house right now. I'm looking at the match right now. I'm taking pictures could take pictures ahead. One to call the cops then talk to them the pitches. Put a complaining right there where I come from. We don't make complaints like that. You don't make him playing up threaten on a phone, right? Like this big tough guy tougher than you shorty. Al que. So why don't you ever address it when I'm out there? That'll do rent the cops of your paycheck while jerk love. Hello. Okay. We got him a little bit. Then. You're going to call them now. Okay. Ready? Okay. Here we go. Oh, yeah. Outside. He's pacing back and forth. I don't know. What to do what they can? Just broke my window. Oh. I'm calling. On what the my car? Come home. You can clean up all the glass now and the dirt for all. I can use the tough guy one. Oh, someone you wait. The at the cops are already on their way. I just gave him a call. I'll be long gone. Picking on my wife, you'll life. I watched hysterical over there. She broke my window. Two of them are told them. Yeah. I didn't get you Humira. Hold on. There you go. Damage you want people hold on? I gotta tell light. He hold on. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To tough. That's right. Keep talking. I got another one to worry about leaving the cop story on their way dark. Yeah. His you back window. Yes. You're real men. I don't see cops coming sirens. It'll be about a minute. Uh-huh. I'm worried. See? I know all the con. Hey, kevin. But even phone tapped. I love this. They Kevin anything you'd like to say to you wife. The yourself. Have an idea for a phone tap. Go to hell strand dot com. Click on the phone tap tap. Tell us what you want to do this pre recorded with permission granted by all participants. Always Durant phone tab on Elvis Duran in the morning show, have it aerial Casten. And I'm Jonathan Strickland and together we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs and failures in business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal of entre preneurs pivotal moments required making decisions we'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. Do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. 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So the difference is Ghandi so the alpha male, and these are just general terms for what they what they kind of personify the alpha male has a very high level of social confidence and selfish Lawrence. He is determined not held back by fear comfortably takes the lead. And takes a masculine approach to women, which makes them feel feminine and girly in response. Women respect him and remain attracted to him. Okay. This is as a rule. Real saving all alpha. Males are great, right? Versus the beta male. Now for the beta male, mild levels of social confidence and selfish, Terrence mild levels of insecurity, nervousness, and fear and social situations. He follows the lead of the alpha male because he's either to afraid or lex confidence and belief in himself or you the alpha male or the beta male about this from the where wolves in twilight twilight you are. All right. Yeah. Pull this out of. Magazine. Only I can't find a name. Okay. Let's let's focus on the beta male. All right who in this room may a wise doesn't feel like their life is getting any better. And they just wake up not really satisfied. Everyday fellas. Skier. Amendments or beta Brody, I mean Brody are you an alpha or a beta I feel like I'm alpha minus feel I'm mostly alpha. But I do have some beta ish tendency, you could be almost spectrum in between the two that's fine. If you say, so, sir. Okay. I'm a beta. Okay. Froggy are you alpha or beta I don't like the sound of alphabet. I guess I'm an alpha. I don't feel like my life's not getting better. I don't feel. What was me? I'm not in that in that moment. I don't feel that way. Have you ever faced your bullies? Because they say typical beta male rarely faces his bullies. In that case, I would be because I don't believe me in high school, if I see them or coming contact with them now, I don't say anything, I just pretended to do you rely on others like your family to make decisions for you know. Okay. So you can be both. You don't have to be one or the other. You can be just kind of flying in between. You can't see it because he standing behind you. But every time you mentioned one of these beta characteristic, Gary space just kind of twists. Harry, are you are you gonna crawl into the fetal position in the corner? That was more of a cringe firings every poll. I want wanna be an out. But I feel like I've leading beta okay. By the way, doesn't mean. It's always a bad thing. Straight. To ask that question. That response. I'm the alpha alpha. The a an eight home. Okay. Moore's more signs that you could be beta, right? You're physically weak. Physical strength. They say this isn't for everyone. But for a lot of people physical strength contribute to self confidence. Self lack of self confidence is is sometimes a trait of beta, right? It was the strongest werewolf in the the the alpha male. So you could be a beta male. If you're in the friend zone with someone like you keep waiting for them to let you in. And they won't aches how long time. Okay. Another another sign of a typical beta male, not for everyone is you can't you can't say, no. And you can't stand your ground cave. No his scary. Did it again? Now, he's taking a sip. About sales. Even in your circle of friends, people make fun of you. No, you're in. You're all the way. Sorry. They're saying on the text message scary, not only a beta he's a master beta. See we're doing it. Another signed. You could be beta your existence largely centers around pastimes, like browsing the internet or your Instagram with. You are doing a lot of we all do though. Scary. We don't okay, you may be a beta male if you make excuses. Oh this. You do have a unique way of justifying things in which is the same as making it to you. Hello sabrina. Right. So your boyfriend you consider is more alpha than beta, correct? So yes, I think he's also when he's around his friends, but I would consider my alpha male. And I think that he is completely beta when he's around me hung. Hum. How do you feel about? Well, I mean, he's still like masculine and like I would say like, you know, the hunt doors, maybe he's alpha. But like when it comes to like like making decisions for like our house or something that now he's completely relies on me to do all of that. Like, I don't I don't even think he could like. Decide what's for dinner? You. I think it's good as but wait is that a good thing or a bad thing in your eyes. I mean, I'm female to like I like to be in charge. So I mean it bothers me sometimes, and I'm like, okay, kind of annoying that I have to make all the decisions. But at the same time, I do like to be in control. So, but it seems like it's working for your relationship. So who are we to judge? You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Exactly. So no, I think it's dangerous for us to say if you're a beta your bad, if you're an alpha, you're bad. You know, I, you know, but you you may lean one way or another and you're saying that depending on who your boyfriend is with he leans alpha when he's with his friends, and he leaving leans beta when he's with you. Yeah. One hundred percents. All right. I wouldn't complain about that. It's better than being like completely like mean to women or like awful or like completely like can't do anything yourself right now. Have you ever seen him with his friends, and he actually a little bit like an ask? And then you call them at later and say, you know, you only acted that way because you were with your friends because I don't think I don't think that really is you. One hundred percent almost even like he'll be doing something with friends like he'll turn like give me a look because he knows I'm like watching like, I probably done there. I call it. The Danny Zuko syndrome does increase whenever Danny is around his friend. He's like sandy would've. And then when he would I was like, what is sandy. Sandy, whatever you want. You know, it's so John Travolta. Serena thank you. Thanks for listening to us. There you go. We're getting this call from a lot of people like, Sarah, you're saying the same thing your boyfriend is beta around you but alpha around his friends. Yes. Definitely. He's a definite muscle head. Does it bother you? I mean, do you feel like, you know, the real him, and he's putting on a show with with his friends? I wouldn't say putting on a show as he comes home from work, and he'll puff out his chest that me and get all and a workout room and his workout phase. But he shows all his insecurities to me and everything he really thinks that he would never tell his friends. She I just don't think this is that unhealthy of thing fine. I mean, you know, he's a Meatball in the in the gym. And he's a he's a he's a lover lover in the bedroom. Thank you very much. All right. Let's give scary scary. List? So far the debate list you never face your bullets. He rely on bullies. You're on others to make decisions for you. The next one you have no sense of style. Trying to keep him on. I'm reading someone else's this pinion you can spot an alpha male from a distance. He's well groomed. Well dressed fit with the right? Posture and attitude in the sea of beta males that surround him as a beta you've just barely. You're barely passing by your an extra in this movie. This is like a sulk Russian soul-crushing just the extra. Straightening. I know you say that you're an alpha male, but what would Hever call you. Actually were both Alphand sloop poopie. Well. The move. Alpha name name office. But in the beta moments, I'm smooth. She puffins, okay. So. Here's what makes me think that you were definitely an alpha because you say that you're puffing. And you say it with all the the pride in the world. I got no shame. I'm sorry. You're the only alpha I've ever met who was Moshi puffing on the proud of that. All right. More to the bait of babes. Right. We're talking about betas are office. I keep. You don't look people in the eye nervous. When you talk to them. You don't get laid that much when you do not even that great. Oh, that's not sure. He had to make sure you put that in there. Country beta and actually have a big ego. But you can't control it. Nate. You're a follower not a leader. No, it also a true form. Beta is someone who is offended by the fact, we're talking about. I wonder how many beta males and up with alpha females. That's an interesting. Yeah. I feel like I see that dynamical what we're learning that on the phones when talking to. But you know, what I once again, we fall into this trap where we're putting people in these categories, compartmentalizing in I don't I don't always think that's true. Because I believe anyone everyone could be totally in their own way part alpha part band and people forget about the mega which is the one off on their own. Yeah. Why not here? Anyway, is there anyone on our show who's annot maga-? So I like to view myself more of the omega. But people tell me that I'm an alpha. And then that hurts my feelings alpha omega take up Cynthia. Hello, alpha female, I can I can tell by the way you say Hello. Right. I guess see only an alpha would say that anyway. So you're an alpha female, and your fiance is definitely a beta male. Yeah. And honestly like throughout his whole life. He is not just with me is pretty much like all the time. I honestly when I started seeing him like almost six years ago. I was like you need to stand up for yourself. This is not okay. People can't treat you like this and throughout our time together, he finally started stand up for himself. And I love it. It's great. But I still do make a lot of decisions, and it's nice. So we have a nice Balan. But I was able to get him to like his confidence a little which is really nice because I don't like seeing someone let people walk all over them. So it's been a nice. It's a nice match. It is what a great relationship. Should you? Don't take advantage that he's the beta kind of try to get him to that alpha level. That's kinda knife. You know, Cynthia kind of funny. I haven't had one guy call and text admitting to being alpha. Yeah. You know? It's it's so interesting hill. I mean, you know, my fiance. He's like he's like, yeah. No. My my fiance's in church hill admit it, so pretty much anybody. And he's like, he's very honest about it. And he's like, and I'm good that way. I like somebody else. The beta status. Exactly he owns beta status. I there's something great about the fact that a guy can sit back and go, you know, what I don't have to be in charge. I don't have to. I don't have to be controller. I really think that's that's the best. I think a lot of times to a guy, you know, he's at his job. And especially maybe if he's a boss and he's making the decisions all day, and blah, blah blah at nighttime hanging. Get tied up. When he walks around why one hundred he's got it. Like, you know, he's got to tell people to do things. And he's always when you go home. You love spanking offer. Sure, I likely to walk across my back with heals everything. Stop on my test. Everything I'd take it. Daddy, cynthia. We've learned so much about frog today. Thank you for listening to the visual life. I know I know just the heels lease it wouldn't put on. Probably pairs. Well. It's so funny to say, well, if you're you're bad, if you're you're bet, no one's bad, lean one way or another sometimes with some people and others with others. But it's it's good to at least stop out trying to try to recognize where you fall on that spectrum of things, I think what do you think you are? On both. Okay. Both. I'm definitely beta and alpha at work and at home. Want ten o'clock hits? I turned into Murphy Buffon's tied up. Title, fourteen o'clock. I'm I'm pushing snuffing. Pushy sufferings to smokey pump. Difference. You don't want to screw with pushy smoking don't. He sounds scarce carries eaten muffins. Dr. We want you beat muffins. Danielle. Who can tell me what won best picture at the Oscars last? Titanic. No, the fish movie the shape of one. There you go. Guess what? Only twenty percent of Americans. Remember that the shape? Water won best picture only twelve percent. Remember that moonlight one in twenty seventeen twenty percents. What it was LA La Land. They give it to them. So that is true HDTV is reviving extreme makeover home edition. Remember that show? We loved that. You'll remember wasn't it the bus, and then they would move the bus. But yeah, we look what was the name of the host on that. He he was really cute. I. Every. Pennington member we had him up. Here's a sweetheart. It originally ran for nine seasons on ABC and new ten episode season premiere will be happening sometime later this year it demands now she fell asleep and forgot to summon the tooth fairy our son pitch, so well, this is happened to my house before to where you know, you have to let the tooth fairy. Now. So she woke up in the morning, her kid was crying. She tweets out to very didn't come that to very better. Get harse bleep together. Hashtag bed moms to be female. Well, I don't think ferry has a female. It's a genderless. Yeah. Yeah. Doll. I always thought it was a female though. I don't know. I've never seen the actual tooth fairy. I just know it leaves the same kind of person who only buys the pink easy bake oven. Either blue they made a blue didn't either. I didn't either. As well. It has been to host the twenty nineteen Grammy awards. All my gosh. Did you see the video for telling her kids? Yes. It was very cool. She shared a video on her YouTube channel yesterday making the big announcement. She said she's so excited. There's so much in store. She can't wait for us to see it come to life, and it will air live aboard tenth on CBS. Justin beaver and Haley, Baldwin sent friends and family a save the date invite to their religious ceremony. I wonder if it looks anything like the one you're going to spend. According to New York Post, the are going to exchange vows before God him, February twenty eight the ceremony will supposedly feature choreographed dancers who already in rehearsals, bieber's personal DJ and so on and so on. To outdo that led do well tonight on television, the mask singer somebody else's going home. So we get to see who that person is match games on the series me of deadly class over on scifi. You have Riverdale and also the fifth season premiere of I'm gonna say poops creek because I like the white sounds. On top. I'm still only on season one. But please don't tell me what happens in season five. We want the Bill Murray documentary last night said of his forgot the name of it of Gogel. I just want him to show up Bill Murray to shows up at your house party. And he's cool man died. He really just shows up. He's like a wanderer. He really is. I mean, I would do anything just a walk in on a Bill Murray. How party he seems like a nice guy. He does is it life lessons learned from a mythical, man. Yes. Okay. The Bill storm believe it's on flicks. See I like paying for this stuff. I know it was we had so much fun watching it you just want. You just want him to show up at your party. That's so cool hill Murray. God bless him. Shows fischel YouTube channel go to YouTube, search Elvis Durant show and subscribed today. Kelly story in the morning show look into WW. It's Weight Watchers reimagined. It's wellness that works for every body. Don't wait any longer feel great. Join today for free star today at radio WW dot com. Purchase required or strictures apply. What? I think Elvis is hilarious on the spot. He always has something funny to say, oh my God. Hysterical. Funny. They will make me smile confusing. Gosh, I'm to be on the phone with you right now known in all the excitement is out. Walking. This. I like to hear that other people have used to I love this feeling of q tip in my ear. Hysterical, hysterical. I love it dick pipe and smoking. Historian in the morning show. We are so proud to know. There is a young lady listening to our show. She's from Clifton New Jersey to listen to us. Several days a week. I've been told her name is Rachel Zeigler. She seventeen to New Jersey she landed the leading role of Maria in Steven Spielberg's, west side story out of thirty thousand people around the world our own Rachel's Egli is Maria. I really had to believe it was something we said that made her so talented. If there was okay now on a C, when's it coming out when are they going to start production? We know I need to cast in the films a year and a half you got to give it some God can't they hurry. They can put a man on. What scary saying this summer's coming out this summer filling? This was going to say that's going to be up next weekend. Yesterday. It's already up. Chose or last week. And now she's already a superstar. She got along Oskar. Anyways. That's so cool. Anyway, there's so many talented people out there. And then I look in the mirror and go. What happened crazy? What is say that? Yeah. Talent you're one of them. Hey, one of them one of the talents. Yes. Do that with Hoppy below Mike? What why did they get all that spread that out a little bit a little more? It's okay. I feel like we're all hot in our own way. I'm high but not in like, supermodel male way. Hot the entire Hemsworth family for mom today to all of the boys. Like what the heck is that right there right on that a little bit? That's the mom's home cooking. Yes. Anyway, we got to go talk to Lauren. Hi, lauren. How are you? Hey L. I'm so excited to talk to you. Because. Alex. I watched that Netflix documentary last night about Bill Murray. It's called the Bill Murray stories life lessons learned from a mythical man he shows up at house parties just unannounced by himself. No entourage. And you're saying he showed up to your house party. It wasn't my house when I was in attendance. Absolutely. Where was this? This was and Glen rock when I was in high school probably two thousand five about four New Jersey. Yep. And so it's a house party high-school college age group, I'm that between and if I school and college so the houses full, I'm assuming mom and dad are gone. So the the bear is flowing. Right. So how how did you know Bill Murray was there? It was kind of like a whisper everybody was always said whispering to each other. Then everybody heard about it. And he was so normal. He didn't act like he was anybody special 'cause the point that he literally stay till after the party and help this kid clean up. I found out. I tell you have you seen the the documentary that we're talking about not yet. I'm gonna want to tonight. I'm sure it will bring back memories of when Bill. Murray showed up he will go these parties and the ends up in the kitchen going. Oh, this places a mess and start cleaning. I have a how does he knew that? There are house parties going on. How did he know that neverlands that out? I don't think ever know that. But I mean, we were all spilled out front long. So I'm going to stumble by do. Here's if I want to be more like Bill Murray, just go up and down streets until I see a street party house party just walk in. Should that's so great? So what did you get a picture with him? No. I did. I'm little consigned for. Everytime in the stock mentoring. You see I mean, he takes pictures with everyone dances with you. He sings along Carioca. He's there seems like he really makes everyone feel cool at the party nicer than that Chevy. Chase. Remember him? The fun uncle come. Yeah. It's a phone call. Yeah. Thank you for sharing Lauren. I appreciate it. Have a great day. Okay. That we love you. Thanks for listening to us or someone listen to into a house party with Bill Murray. Maybe he's listening now Bill Murray show at please. This is a house party every four six to ten let's go around the room producer sandwich on your mind today. I've just loving Bill Murray a little bit more in this moment. But you know, how there are some lessons. They say you learn the hard way, I feel like there's some you shouldn't have to learn the hard way. So I would love to humiliate. My sister by saying, I told you so 'cause her whole life. She will cut an avocado by holding it in her palm and placing the knife down and cutting around towards your pump. And I'd say for years Farris, stop it. She goes, no. It's only bagels that are dangerous. Well, she was walking around the house blowing on her palm over the weekend. And she told me I forget why she told me my sister just ratted her out. She was cutting enough KADO facing your palm. And didn't wanna tell me because she knew I'd go on the radio and may chronic so. Yeah. Farah don't ever do that again. Because next time it could be worse. And you know, they have an avocado knife. Yeah. Right. It's a sharp. It's much safer even pits. The damn thing. Invest in that cut. No, it's not as a special ended even takes the pin out for you and everything. Oh, big big problem. If you work in an emergency room, how many people come in every week who've been trying to get the pit onto the avocado. All right told her. So I did now you feel better about yourself. Hey, what's up Daniel? So I I'm loving. We were talking about the Saturday. Collie flower pizza crust law mix, I all of a sudden they came in. And they brought it to us as it. Right. Jolly green giant. And now I'm obsessed with it. I wanna make my own at home, a great taste really does. It's just lighter. And I feel like it's healthier a little bit of a fork smell does. Cauliflower 'cause a lot of people. Here's a collie flower flower. I always say cauliflower there's cauliflower lower. I don't know for fact Franchi cauliflower, then it's wrong. It's Cali saying which right or wrong. I'm just saying we funny how say differently pay may say either ones, except I don't know cauliflower. I think of like a dog Lassie right last the flower. Okay. Anyway, I like Kali flower. Crust, and I'll continue to say the way I like so. Whole flour rice as well. I do. Oh, and mashed potatoes of you've heard the mashed potato mash cauliflower K, but I still have all the mashed potatoes because I pretend better. Little great little essence of fart. What's up there Gandhi? Okay. I need you guys to tell me if I'm being outrageous with this. But I have some friends who are supposed to be coming to guess who are supposed to be coming to town this weekend. But now in their driving so now with the snow there sort of waffling back and forth. We might we might not. And I'm kinda like, hey crap or get off the pot because I got a three day weekend coming, and I need you to decide is it rude for me to say that. No, not right. I'm being held hostage. Are they gonna leave by Sunday? Oh, vignette that they need to stay vigilant about the weather's supposed to be the bad day if they could write a Monday than I would say come anyway, I mean, they could. But like can I get some days to myself are longer? Would you be upset? I dare you. If they don't show up hang out with us again this weekend. I was maybe going to bring them to hang out with. Elvis and Gandhi together that was explosive allocating it was crazy. I feel like the Heineken beer company is giving us all the lesson in don't judge a book by its cover. You've seen the TV commercial where the guy walks into a boardroom and cots Heineken and everyone wants to throw him out in there screaming and yelling. We'll guess what it's a non alcoholic beer it's zero zero. So they sent some over here. I was wondering if someone like maybe Greg tika just walk around the building just pop into non alcoholic beer and people judge to say, and I think that that's fascinating because it's not alcohol. I mean, if I'm gonna drink something better Ryoko Hollick, that'd be chocolate milk. It needs to have the same great taste chocolate. I don't I don't understand how you don't all run out of things to talk about. How do you do it? I don't know. We never really run. Okay. Okay. I'll be honest. There are times we'd sort of run out of things to talk about. And that's when we talk about the most insane things best time, which turn turns into a great conversation does anyway. I'm kinda gase. Burpee guests not not far not far. Did you? Oh, please. I'm gonna eat from Tom baby talk to them while you Burgum. God wants to come and see us in a few minutes. He so he's so cute because he he's doing the studio. But he doesn't know where he is. So he goes I'm in one of the premier studios, I'm past Charlemagne at the end of the hall, get to you. So. Yeah. Gregory Goget, Bobby bone. He can't come till forty two. So at forty two he's got a break is gonna come. Then that okay here when he's forty two now at the forty two you no, I don't let's get into sound with Garrett. Hello morning. What's going on? All right. Let's start with the tonight show there in Puerto Rico last night and Jimmy Fallon open the show with Lin Manuel Miranda and the cast of Hamilton because they're doing Hamilton down in Puerto Rico, and they did the story of tonight. We've got a killer show. Balan going down there and trailing than men. Well, it was just a genius idea. Bad bunny was there too, and they performed in the streets at the roots. Jimmy fallon. Tickets even in Puerto Rico what a great guy. Hamiltons playing on Mars. Sorry. Hold out and get those aliens. All right. This is going around online right now kids from nineteen sixty six talking about what it would be like in the year two thousand. So remember the year two thousand and just think what these kids in one thousand nine hundred sixty six would think what the year two thousand would be like two thousand. I think Florida spaceships the moon dictating robots rebels or else I may be. Having in charge of a robot courts. Judging some robots or I may be funeral computer. It was interesting. Like the Jetsons like growing up. I always thought at this point in my life. We'd be like the Jetsons cars would be in the air. I thought Rosie become over and clean my house. Yeah. Exactly. Well, robots are getting run over by cars extractor controlled by people. We've got more work to do in that vet the two thousand will be aiding paid sa- crush mine out of cauliflower. We've been talking about the Netflix show you where the guy is a Stocker he fault. He tries to fall in love with someone that he's stocking. He scares me. Yes. So Millie Bobby Brown was defending the stalker guy. Just start in that new show. You. He's not creepy. He's in love with. And it's okay. So I'm obsessed with binge-watching it absolutely banging at flakes. Okay. I know everybody's can say, oh, he's a stole co. Why would you support that? No. Like he's in love with. And it's just like just wanted to show and judge me on my opinion. Think she hasn't finished it yet. I need to step aside. I think once she finishes it, she'll change her opinion. Yes. No, I got it. I all right. All right. So this is kind of cute a baby eleven months old was deaf. Just got hearing aids for the first time the here, his family and baby laughs at everyone. Talking. What an important moment for that family. Isn't that amazing? Baby. A baby I think it's bad guy. Yeah. We've been trying the questions will come after you get married. Yeah. I don't know guys having a baby one I'll have the talk with you after as to why it's not working between you and Alex having. Backfires and it gets pregnant. All right. I wanna baby. This. Five times in my house today. Until I baby the baby right here. You won't make a bit. All right. So bohemian rhapsody comes out on DVD and on demand next month, and you know, with that we get all the behind the scenes footage. So when they were making bohemian rhapsody, Brian May who is in Queen actually played the music while they were filming. So there's a scene where it looks like they're Br who's the guy who's playing Brian. May I forgot his name right now was playing bohemian rhapsody was really Brian Ryan may and then you hear rhyming Malik in the background acting it out. Such a great movie. Now, listen. Really? Unloved that. So now the upper attic section. For six. That's the actual actors in the movie playing while Brian was actually playing guitar. Hell cool. Have you seen it? Yes. Have you seen? I just got it in the mail yesterday. These people listened like oh both. So the morning show. They get it in the mail. The union. We're in the union. They sent you those things when in the union, drew, Bobby bones is coming in. Yeah. He'll be here. In a few minutes. I'm excited about that. Yeah. Don't have to get into the Gandhi report here. So you don't think he's on his way? Now, you saw him last night at Radio City dance. Yeah. He did the little bitty didn't dance a lot. He's so funny, though, he'll tell you the story of how everybody in the cast is so supportive of him. Because he has no clue what he's doing. What was your thought? Brodie balmy bones. Can't just waltz in here. Whenever you want. A lot of funny though. He's always he's a he's his comedic timing is way too hard though. I have a problem really done. He makes us all. So lazy? I don't like him either. We can't wait to get him in here. Probably on the way headlines. What's going on Gandhi? Well, the partial government shutdown now in day twenty six is slashing more than a tenth of a percent off the economy for every week. It continues its a combination of loss of work from contractors and for load employees as well as people spending an investing less because they aren't getting paid currently eight hundred thousand federal employees are furloughed and working without pay YouTube is cracking down on videos of dangerous challenges and pranks. They say they're. Yeah. No longer going to be available and the ban is in response to the bird box challenge, the tide pod challenge. And now the drink your urine challenge, they say that this stuff is just out of control and users who violate this band will have their videos removed in a strike set against them. Limiting what they can do for ninety days. Don't think you're going to get past. It Ren idiot challenge. KO? New York set to become the fifteenth state to ban gay conversion therapy for minors. If you don't know what that is. It's the attempt to change someone's sexual orientation and people who practice anything in the health profession say that they can cause serious. Physical harm to the miners while trying to convert them a little bad news if you have net flicks, the company announced the biggest price hike since the company began twelve years ago, most people can expect to pay about two dollars more per month. And Nike just unveiled new shoes that lace themselves. You can control them from a smartphone app. They say, yeah. It sounds like it's lazy. But actually what they wanna do is really dig into the data insights of athletes, and their workout. So that they can get more info for all of us to be super healthy. That's so cool. Yeah. Eappen laces, my shoot. But then it's also going to track your steps the pressure that you put on different points of your foot and injuries. All that can really cool shoes. It's three ninety five to start there called the adapt. We need these aren't available. Now, they are out in stores yet they announced the it'll be out very very simply look, really cool 395. I believe there's lace themselves. Do they pay for themselves to? That would be nice. Say that. I absolutely love you guys. I sound you over four years ago. As part of my life. Elvis Duran in the morning show. These in here. But that doesn't mean it has to slow your family down. That's because Clorox disinfecting wipes and clean up spray. He'll ninety nine point nine percent of germs to help. Keep your family happy and healthy. So stock up on Clorox disinfecting products. Use as directed on harden on poor surfaces. I don't know what I know that caskets need to be delivered to places that need caskets. See a casket delivery truck on the road. Oh, the trucks will of casket never seen a casket delivery truck before they get there. Does it say casket delivers? This was let me first. Oh. Okay. Yes. Picture took a picture of it. Wow. That serious knows great. I got a Bala tricks. Yes, you do. Tricks. They smell trick. They're so good. But they don't look at tricks. I grew up with different their remix version of tricks. Yeah. But they all taste the same. Okay. Gregory here. Great tea worse. Bobby bones? Okay. Well, that's the problem. He is using one of our other heart media studio and his light is on that. He's on the air. But his assistant is just looking at me. But won't even like really pay me attention. They're doing a show eight forty two he has a brain at forty four. Okay. So forthright. Minute. We be breaking right now his leg just went off. We'll bring him down. We're talking about tricks. Here we come. He's coming right now here he's gonna waltz on in here. I'll give them the phone hold on just bringing down. I gotta go. Tieman? He wears me out. It may Bobby bones. He did his last night on the dancing with the stars tour and Danielle saw him at Radio City was awesome. He's quick step on down to the. Studio. This crap today is national day. Are you wearing a hat? Yes. Today's national fig Newton day. No. That's like eating ants is like eating aunt, my grandmother used a fig Newton's, and I was a kid, and she was old there. And but I always considered to be old people. Keeps in her pocket of our little. Original word is people can't eat too. It's good. But it's people I happen to like fig Newton's. But usually if a cookies at great, you can smush it up and put ice cream monitored every. You can't you can't get created with figment. L put him in milk. And then the cookie dissolves into the milk and the fig just has milk. Oh, it's the best. Yep. Yuck. We also eat Melba toast. I haven't met her. But she sounds nice. I just saw someone quick stepping down the down the hallway. Some use music, anyway, Bobby bones, our friend, just one for the stars. He brought the mirror ball trophy out last night. And even so funny. He let some lady in the front row hold it. Mr volleyball. Good to see you split. I love Elvis. It's good to congratulate you, well, I feel like I'm so over actually dancing and last night. I so I'm close to most people on the show. Like, I love you guys like friends and Danielle was like, I'm in the crowd. Can I see you? And I was like if you didn't you would be upset after the show I jumped into the crowd, which I got in trouble for you see that. But back everybody came over to you and started grabbing at you after that. Fire. You I mean, everybody's my last show anyway. Right. And so we go out and we're hanging out and Danielle and her son or there, and we're taking pictures, and I told y'all I'm retiring, I can't dance. She's like we didn't dance that much. It's like there's a reason I'm not good. Everybody in the cast associative of him because he doesn't know what he's doing. So they like okay now, Bobby take a left make a left, but which be very clear about this. First of all, you're you're I think you're great dancer. But then again, who am I I don't know. But I thought you you did stuff out there that I could I could never do. And I actually watched you improve from week to week. I mean, I had no choice. I had it. Couldn't get much worse. See here's what you don't know about Bobby Bobby is the most self. I don't wanna say self deprecating self defecating. Yeah. He likes. He loves he poops all over himself ever. Give yourself enough credit? You're you're so talented. When you're doing your your with your band when you're on the air when you're just great at everything you do. Well, I don't wanna talk about me. I'm so over me at this point. I want to know about Gandhi, we've only ever talked online a little bit we met what we did meet at one at the I heart festival invade. So what is it because I know like for me when I was listening to pop radio before I went to country like Elvis was one of my heroes that I will look at and go out never get to meet him much less work with him. What is it like, actually work? It was one of the greats that have ever done what we do know. Don't don't let me have this Elvis. Let me have got to be that pressure to that. Right. He's terrible. You come in. You have to work with one of the great, you know, he makes it so easy, which is probably why he would be one of the greats. But they have made me so comfortable like, this has been awesome. And I felt the exact same way you did before. I got here. Didn't even think I would. Bob, your guests. Are they are they paying you so much money? So did you come here and go holy crap. I'm making a really good. Swim around here too. Money coming in. There's nothing we can do about. You guys are really wondering. What was it like more than you thought? It would be L summit now come on. Nature can every like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The money's out of control. Okay. So last night was your last night on the tour the dancing with the stars tour. Yeah. Out of his very cool this, but you ended at Radio City Music hall in New York City. Okay. Bobby bones five years ago was this a part of a plan to be on American idol to know only have your huge successful show or you're breaking country artists. Now, you're dancing with the stars you want it your Radio City on the most iconic stages in the world. And now, you're on the Elvis Duran morning. Yes. That that to me is five years ago. What I wanted to do frankly is to be here with you. Because and I wrote about it in my last book where it was like, I looked at you and New York, and I was like that's what I wanna do. You see what I wrote about you in my book, the private stuff, we said, we'd never talk about. Actually, this actually parallels with what I'm talking about. You are composting so many things and when you're accomplishing these things they're not as they're not as fabulous as they are to us noticing you accomplish them, and I get that. But five years were you the kind of guy who's got to get these things done or I'm a failure in life or you just kind of just show up where the job is. And you just succeed. Well, my truth is with with no jokes aside. All jokes aside is that I grew up in in a trailer park kid, my mom was a drug addict. And she died in her forties. And I had to raise myself from about eleven on. And the real talent that I ever had was just showing up. Like, I wasn't particularly particularly good looking. I really didn't have a skill set that really defined me as talent. And so what I did. Because I kind of had to was I just showed up to work all the time. And my goal was out work. Everyone. Tam because I had to like I to eat the guy had to go to work. I had to mow yards at eleven twelve years old. And so and that was ingrained in me from a really early age and also wanted to show people that come from places like where I come from that maybe are raising themselves or maybe had a little sister. I take care of or maybe, you know, they come from not the best circumstances. They can't get out of their situation. I wanted to show them that it could be done. May I say something that I don't want to embarrass. You may be embarrassing. I know you well enough to know that you have a trait that a lot of successful people have when you don't totally own it and succeeded. One hundred percent you beat the crap out of yourself. I do I do because what good comes out of that. Or why why do you have to continue living your life like that? I don't know the anything good comes out of it. And I've tried to get better. I go a lot of therapy. And you know, I tried to at least be fair to myself. I'm believe that being fair yourself as the hardest person to be fair to is that your number one issue with you is being. You don't know how to let yourself off the hook. I think my number one issues vulnerability, I'm thirty eight and I. Don't have girlfriend. I'm never been engaged in. No, no kids. No more vulnerabilities than not being in relationship. I have to say this though. And I'm sure you've heard this before I think what makes you so magical as a person and a talent is your vulnera- vulnerability. The fact that you don't take you don't seem to take yourself too seriously when it comes to interact with with others and people root for you because they want you to win because we're all wanting you to like yourself. Also, why we loved you so much dancing with the stars. Because you were the underdog and even last night sitting with my thirteen year old son in the audience watching you on state. He's like he's just so funny, so lovable and you want him to do. Well, I appreciate now. And I feel like I'm just representing a lot of people out there that don't have a voice like it because I didn't have a voice, and I feel like there are a lot of people like me, and like us a lot of your listeners that come from places where they feel like they're not heard or that. Nobody cares and a bit of the pressure that I put on myself is being that. Person for them. And I think that's why I'm gonna get into politics one day. And I know I'll get into politics. But you sorta did when you when you stole a prison. Trump's hat. I didn't know I didn't steal own make America great again. I own that saying as a whole brutal thing. The president. Yeah. Calling elvis. They were like Elvis take care of Bobby, please to give the head pack. Control. By the way, Bobby bones is here when you for listening to us on the replay listen to it again. Because so far you've dropped a lot of very very interesting. Things about yourself. Do you hate talking about you your book again, I'm over me? But I felt that by me sharing things that I've been through other people relate and go, oh someone else is kind of speaking for me. And so where I did really hate talking about myself so much. It's not for me. Now, it's four I I do feel like I'm the voice for a lot of other people. So, you know, it's it's been it's been a fantastic on the last few years. Going to American idol fulltime get from a tiny town in Arkansas seven hundred people. What about the radio show is someone minding the shop there? I have seven minutes. I told y'all I was like I have from forty two to flip. You guys know how it is windy up to leave want you to leave. I have. Already passed. Kayla Kayla say Hello to our Powell, Bobby bones. What up? Oh my God. I cry. Hey, listen to Texas such a fan of iheartradio because Elvis talks about Bobby bones. I listened Ellison to breakfast club. Bobby enrica? She listens. All our friends that we have a friendship group. That's literally me you Charlotte. Rica is us a respectful turn down the lights when we get down with each other. Kayla. Do you? What do you find charming about Bobby bone? He hates have you talk about him. So you talk about him. I don't know. Okay. So I've been listening body for like eight years. Maybe I don't even know to the point do I when my daughter was like two she's eight now when she was two she would be like, it's the poppy phone show. Feel him on this show. Now talking about me Rome interview. I love Elvis like Elvis in the morning to of stolen many. Me to deal for me. I stole it from someone else. The kale? I'm sure I'm on my way to court right now 'cause I'm getting sued. But anyway, the point wait a minute stay on for a whole segment after the why are you getting sued because they didn't pay some things. I had a car got totalled. How much do you rate it like three thousand pay her Bill? I didn't know what she did though. She didn't seem favor. The matter. I had a car had a core. I had a car. I had a core is that sold. And then I lost my job before he got it was about to get repoed. And then it got total. So I'll split it with my. Okay, hold on. I don't think there's sooner for money, and I think they're just sitting here because she was a bad girl. Still all money. Yes. Ensure paint it I like three grand. So we're going to Elvis and our get a split pay fifteen hundred bucks, and we're gonna pay this Bill for you. But no one would there was no like murder or anything. That never wrecked. It. Okay. We're gonna pull you over hold on. We're gonna put you on hold. We're gonna get information from you. And we will. No, we're not playing with you. Listen, charlotte. Charlemagne all going. I mean, I'm I'm getting nervous about your show. You're you're cool here. Right. I'll probably not. But. The point the Bobby Bobby made he works hard. He worked so hard and people like you and Charlemagne make me nervous and Ryan Seacrest. Because you guys are industries. You have worked so hard. You become this thing more than just a talent. I work hard because I'm scared not to allow people like man, you must be cool to just go. And do all these things you want to do. I'm careful to not do all the things that I want to do because I have a small window and that window now in what are you gonna die or something? I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow. I literally don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow. But I love having that mindset because I don't take off the gas. And so I'm very grateful for it. And this is where we're opposite. I'm afraid to work too hard. I see these guys do and what the end they accomplish so much more than just do a radio show with my best friend. That's really all. I do Elvis has the opposite of foam. Oh, he has the fear of being asked to go somewhere. Pronounce that word. It's Fogo out fear going out. I just think your story continues to unfold with a third book. Hopefully in about another book, you know, all I know is that I'm very blessed to be sitting here, and and to be able to talk to so many people, and I it to the people that I talked to because you know, they have lifted me up, and that's who I am. That's what I will continue to be whether it be on the radio. Whether it's you know, if I'm the governor of Arkansas or even the president the United States, which is those are all things that I want to do, and, you know, for me to be able to travel the country and speak to people and speak to kids who have grown up in very unfortunate situations, and and not only preached to them, but preach for them and relate to them. Like that's very important to me. I don't take it for granted. And you know, there are a lot of people listening right now that just feel lost. And I think the biggest thing that I can tell them that you are not alone. We off feel lost. Even if we look like, we don't we are so lost. And you're not alone. When you feel that way. This is why we live Bobby, and I will say. My show is calling me right now. Go. Bobby bones? Thank you very much. Guy. Great get lost in the way down. He he doesn't undefined the studio spices. So big. I still get lost in this building. You know, he's fabulous. You know, I know a lot of people were like Allie shouldn't have won dancing with the stars. He wasn't the best. But he was the guy he was the people's champ. And he was the guy who from the beginning wasn't a good dancer, and I feel like that's what the show's about improving from week to week and by enough, exactly. I hate that. Look, I love my low. I think myla's very talented. I loved him in zombies. But listen, he's a dancer he came on a dancer. He's over the professional Bobby to know what he's still on the what the hell doing what Bobby bones accomplished on Nanjing with the stars. He's basically a competent life came from a spot where you're expected to not really win unless you really work hard. That's why I get I don't get disappointed in myself when I talked about amount. But I you know, he's accomplished so much by working so hard at it. And we've accomplished so much by not really working all that hard at it. A little guilty about it. It all out there for you. Farting it out. I understand the sentiment. But I don't think it's true. I wouldn't say you haven't worked hard for it. Bobby has he has a serious issue of foam? Oh, the fear missing. I have homo. Happiness of missing out. Back to that home. Both square is just an inspiration. He's fantastic. I'm very very proud of very happy for. All right. We take a break. We didn't do anything. Do. We do anything here. Yell at. Puffins? What are you talking about Brody sticks stole his joke? But I forgot really you're talking out loud while we're doing a show about how each other's Joe. Voice. Okay. Was the homo joke your junk. Okay, say yes or no clear victory sip. Like, he wrote that he didn't got he wrote it, gene. How do you forget such a brilliant? Because we've known that way. Now the joke is the happiness of missing, right? That's the joke, and the fact that it was sounded like homo. So then. It is. Like and sounds. Being a homo or no. Yes. Let's take a break before we get into any more trouble. But Bobby, Mon fabulous. Bobby day. The morning shows facial Twitter account. Ratio. Show. Hashtag urine ask Elvis Duran in the morning show. Standard data and messaging rates may apply. Wanna be part of the next conversation. Senate tax fifty five one hundred Elvis Duran in the morning show. Let them using play for a second. I love the song. Speaks to me when we're looking at the Daniel report. And then we have another one maybe another one after this. All right. Well. The hell sure Justin Bieber knows that you're having a wedding soon, and he's trying to outdo because Johnson and Haley they sent a save the date invite to their friends for their religious ceremony. Now, they're going to exchange vows on February twenty eighth supposedly going to be this huge thing with a choreographed dance that the dances are already in rehearsal ordered on bieber's personal DJ. I don't know. And there are also rumors that there's a baby on the way. Do you have that too? We don't have. That's how you beat them. You have to get pregnant. I I think it might be too. That's under two. But I don't know. I don't know. At least case will be hosting the twenty nineteen Grammy awards posted a video on YouTube yesterday announcing it that tenth on CBS is when it all will be happening and Netflix. Yup. Another price hike. That's the biggest one is twelve year history. Most popular plan will be bumped from eleven dollars to thirteen dollars a month. So only two dollars more. But that's you know, if you add it up, it's it's a lot of money and scary, do I have more time. Okay. HDTV is reviving extreme makeover home addition. If you don't remember the show, it was awesome. They moved the bus at the end or never. Hi, being the new I don't know. That would be awesome. If it originally ran for nine seasons on ABC new ten episode seasons gonna premier sometime later this year and riana is suing her own dad Ronald Fendi for trying to use the family name to exploit her fame in his own video business ventures. So she is not a happy camper. Apparently they will booking her for show. She didn't know about and getting taking money from people that she didn't know about yet. Not good. Not good to just send a text from Denison, Texas. I used to work there when I was in high school at K K M O K, I K. Yeah. A radio station, da. Da so weird. What headlines? Headlines. Come we're doing everyone else is doing all the work. I just sit here and gold. Like four hours every day. Thank you. Danielle. T- celebrating do nothing at all day. How's it working out for you? Well, it was going really well till you had me go get balmy bones. Then I actually do something. So that kind of awfully took him back. Again, do something again. All right now, it's going. All right. You know, you're doing nothing flirting some of the girls out into the headlines Condie. What's going on right now? Lots of stuff, California facing disastrous weather. They just cannot catch a break right now. Heavy rain and snow threatening areas that have already been burned by the wildfires. Some areas could see four to eight inches of rain other areas even higher up in the Sierra could get a six feet of snow and blizzards. That's the national weather service says even a stronger storm could blow in tonight YouTube cracking down on videos of dangerous challenges in pranks, we talked about this a little bit because of the bird vox challenge the tide pod challenge. And now this weird trend of drinking your own urine. Youtube says these are really irresponsible, and they're going to start banning people who post them, and you could get a limited for ninety days as to what you can do help. Chapo could take the witness, Dan and his drug trafficking trial. That's happening right now in Brooklyn, if he does he's going to have to answer questions about an enormous bribe allegedly paid to former Mexican present president and rega- Panya NATO now one hundred million dollars million bucks allegedly to look the other way. A lot of money in politics. Apparently there is Kenyan officials are reporting that an attack at a hotel complex in Nairobi has ended at least fourteen people including one American were killed when our men's store in the storm the complex yesterday, then held off police for hours until they were all killed this morning. And how crazy is this? A thirteen year old seventh grader in Michigan. Now the youngest person to ever be offered a football scholarship, and it's coming from the university of Michigan. It was made to Isaiah Marshall after coach Jim Harbaugh watched a film of him. And he's believed to be the first player in the country to be offered this scholarship wealth in the seventh grade why crazy my? Recruiting seventh grade now, Molly. Young. Yeah. Apparently it really hurt. My soul to deliver that story because it was about the university of Michigan. I am a Buckeye. Gators beat their ass in the bowl games. You're good with that anymore. Why? Because you're talking about that not us. Yes. Gator. Gator you to calm down. I like you saw two way back Wednesday phone tap from Dave Rhody coming up next. You can see what you're hearing by following the morning show on Instagram. Search kill this Durant show. Now, this is Elvis Duran in the morning show cold and flu season, it's here. But that doesn't mean it has to slow your family down. That's because Clorox disinfecting wipes and clean up spray. He'll ninety nine point nine percent of germs to help. Keep your family happy and healthy. So stock up on Clorox disinfecting products uses directed on harden on poorest surfaces. Randy Elvis Durant phone tap. Here. We go with the phone tap. You know, what let's give someone on the phone and make them mad. The letter came in saying, dear Elvis Duran. My husband Kevin is doing a whole lot of work in our front yard. He has our entire front lawn area by the sidewalk ripped up putting a new sprinkler pipes in, you know, it's just a big mess. I've been nagging him for over six months to fix it up because it's an eyesore for the neighborhood. The sprinkler. Pipes are blocking the sidewalk you can't walk by on the street without walking through mud. It's just a mess. So knowing that my my husband Kevin worked very hard as a police officer. He insists on doing the sprinkler job himself. He's very hard headed that way. Let's teach him a lesson wanted you call him as someone who's sick and tired of our front yard mess. He'll freak. This comes to us from Susan. All right. David Brody is going to do the phone tech with Susan listening in on the other line Susan's going to start out with a call to her husband. Let's listen into today's phone tap. Heaven guy. He just call me. His name is Eddy. He's flipping out about the front yard. He's he's pissed off. His kid keeps walking in the dirt. I gave him your cell phone number. Right. Just talked to him, please. You're a cop. I can't I can't deal with this. I'm like shaking. He was all pissed off. Yelling at me. Right. He's now k. Kevin. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin. My name is Eddie your wife. Tell you. I was calling. Yes. He just called me. My son Steven goes to initial and I park on your block sometimes drive in the school. What the hell's going on your house contact the police? Have you have an issue? Listen, I've seen you day. You one of those rent the cop guys, right? Why can't you deal with rent the cop value talking about go to local police once you finish the damn thing when I get to get to you've been working on for like six months now. I'm working on a lot of other stuff. Like what the rest of the house doesn't look so great. What are you working on? Where do you live where are you living? What rich I don't remember where I live in a house. I take care of it. Really? Yeah. My lawn is mode. I don't have the mess dirt everywhere. Ripping off the sidewalk. That's right, complain about the people to put the fake like home vibe around town, you'll see the fake rats. That's the woods is. At least. I'm doing the right way. My ripping up the street how long does it take to plant grass right now? It takes a while to stock Rowan seed, and none of that sake. Such get the real stuff do like a man do like a, man. So you help crap my half dozen looked like Kraft he doesn't ever seen dirt before. So you maybe we should maybe do some research before you saw arguing you're out of your mind. Some quoting police twenty put the complaining we'll handle that way. We're gonna warehouse when yes cured guy that that's it almost security guard. Yep. You know, what I'm in front of your house right now. I'm looking at the mass right now. I'm taking pictures. Good. Take pictures ahead. One to call the cops. And then talk to them on the pitches. Put a complaining right there where I come from. We don't make complaints like that. You don't make it plain up threaten on a phone, right? Like, this big tough guy tougher than you, Dan, Schorr, the L K the wanna you ever address it when I'm out there. That'll do rent the cops, but your jerk. Well, jerkov. Hello, okay. We got him a little bit. You're going to call them now. Okay. Ready? Okay. Yeah. He's outside. He's pacing back and forth. I don't know. What to do? What? Both my window. I'm to talk. What I call. My god. Come home, you clean up all the glass now and the dirt for all. I can. Tough guy one. Oh, somebody wake the cops are already on their way. I just gave him a call. I'll be long gone. What you picking on my wife? You'll life hysterical over there. You broke my window to them are told them. Yeah. I didn't get your side. Hold on. There. You go. Damage you want? I don't hold on. I gotta tell light here. Hold on all. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To tough. That's right. Keep talking I got another run into to find gonna worry about leaving the cops area near way dark. Yeah. His back window. Yes. You're real men. I don't see cops coming sirens. Be about a minute. I'm worried. See? I know all the. Hey, kevin. I love you. Thank Kevin anything you'd like to say to you wife. The yourself. Have an idea for a phone tap, coding, three dot com. Click on the phone tap. Tell us what you want to do this whole cre- recorded. 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An Aural Feast with Hans, 2019 Adelaide Fringe Ambassador

Adelaide Fringe Podcast

16:54 min | 1 year ago

An Aural Feast with Hans, 2019 Adelaide Fringe Ambassador

"Atalay themes. The potty that defines a city. Welcome to Adelaide fringe podcast where we take you behind the curtain of the largest arts festival in the southern hemisphere to help you navigate you'll bist fringe experience Hans the boy wonder of Berlin has to a nationally and internationally during a career spanning more than a decade. He recently shot to a new level of fame when he reached the finals of America's got talent. Where absolutely delighted to have Hans as one of three fringe ambassadors for two thousand and nineteen. In today's episode Hans talks about the unique atmosphere of Adelaide fringe, he shares how he grew his audience and achieved international acclaim, plus dishes, some dirt about his America's got talent. Experience to book your fringe tickets head to the Adelaide fringe website via the Lincoln the show nights. Adelaide fringe podcast is recorded on the traditional lands of the Ghana people with big thanks to Adelaide fringe principal partner. Banking say. Hans welcome to the Motte. My gosh Hulo how Larry Hello to the tens of people listening to this while the pleasure what an aural feast this is. Eight is sorry fringe. It's all happening. How you feeling? Well, I'm a little bit sore. But that's okay. You know, fringes about pacing yourself. I never have one drop of alcohol during Mahal festival and then on the last night. I am planning to arrive at the awards like Kate Middleton and leaving like Kate moss. Honey, put it that way. Good imagery. You've got a Pisces south three fringe because he it's a month long of lots going on. Exactly. And if you're not performing you're you're seeing Pozzo your having meetings with people you're catching up with friends. So it's important to, you know, get sleep where you can. And don't sweat the small stuff. You know? I can see a lot of people on Facebook going off a bed. Oh this review or something that happened? I think you just have to deal with it. And then move on. I have a bit of a Naomi Campbell tantrum. And then it's over. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Have the moment. Feel the feel all Hanley. I'll have the moment I send the text. And then it's over. So Adelaide has become your adopted hyme. Can you tell us how that came about? It is my home Atalay by arrived here on an exchange program many many years ago, and I'm I've stayed for tax reasons. But you know, it's it's funny. I feel so at the home in that lead that you know, it's almost like I was born here and have never lived anywhere else. I don't know. It's it's we it's weird. How I feel that way. But being back in that layer is like, you know, it's like riding a bike. Isn't it overriding? One of those lime scooters. I'm not sure that seems complicated. That's very easy. I've yes, I've been trying one out. I love it. I love the limescale and I love the Jing senior citizens were strolling on the footpath. It's a new sport. I'm thinking about racing one in super loop adding much less noise. Tell me hands. You have been involved in Adelaide fringe for a long time. Yes. I have two thousand and four was my first of a fringe, and I was in the show code Berlin cabaret, and it was at a venue called the Weimar room which opened on Heine streets in a building that used to be downtown and used to be a mad Cade facility of the eighties and nineties roller rink as well. And it was transformed into a pop up venue for fringe festival, and it became so popular that they kept it open year round. So we did a show every Friday Michael Berlin cabaret with a troop of wonderful performers. I dunno. I will give you this exclusive a feeling though, some of them were putting on being German, which that kind of disgusts me. I mean, what sort of sick posts and pretends to be something, then I know what kind of state has its we. But. But that's what happened, and it was kind of it, not only open my eyes. It opened my mind and other parts of my body being in that show and from them, I kind of created my own shows put them into fringe put a little band together at some dances. Our very first fringes that I did is my own show. We used to do them at a community stat establishment, formerly known as the MAs by you. Remember it? Well. And they were so lovely to because they always gave me the venue for free, which as you can imagine as a fringe artist that is most of your costs. And it was a great time because you know, it gave me a chance to get the show together. I mean, I was always okay. But it was the band in the dances in they needed rehearsal. They needed a few years under their belt, but we kind of build an audience. And now look at me. I'm so up myself. I'm unstoppable. And internationally on. Because last year you had sold out shows at inbr- fringes will be yes, how is that? Tell us will use. I mean, we will playing in the blue crate in the middle of a street. So I mean, it's not like a solo that Comey hole. But it was still as whole that season in Edinburgh. And you know, what the Scottish people you thought Germans knew how to drink. My god. It's not a rumor it is not a room these Scottish people there on that. And Asha was on a ten PM at night. So you can imagine what was happening. It was a wild ride. It was a wild rod for me. So you're not you have traveled internationally if performed around the world. How does Adelaide fringe compare? You know, what I think what sets us apart is our unique atmosphere. You know, like, well, obviously, everybody knows the hubs like the garden gluttony RC, see. But I also think there's so many wonderful little venues in Adelaide Laba, William the club, the GC's amazing this standard of venues in Adelaide is much higher. I would say I I also think if for an audience member, obviously, the weather's better than it Umbro. But also, it's just the whole kind of, you know, meeting your friends finding something to do off the cuff. I like kind of going out on the night, not knowing what you're going to go see picking up a flyer and going let's just give it a go. If it's bad. It's usually only an hour if it's bad usually have a better story to tell at the end of it. If it's great Honey everyone's a winner. It is had to navigate fringe. You have created at least there's a Hans list is. Only internet. There's an I've got ten picks up there and go back picking tags. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's not an exhaustive list. So talk to your friends see what they're seeing get on Facebook. See what people are raving about read the reviews, maybe, but I mean reviews at just one person's opinion. I think you know, if you have a group of people whose opinion you trust trust them the links. That's what I say more than anything. Just go to masher. Yes. Of course, essential guys outside on the as many tickets left the goal gone belly. Tell us a little bit about your shar your performing again in this year's for India's on they must show is called like a German, darling. You get it. And you know, really, it is just a love of fun my show. I every every now, and then I think, oh, maybe I should do something intellectual. And then I think Honey don't we just need to switch off every now. And then so. So when you come to my show, I think it's it's less of a show. More of a potty people have been bringing a lot of children to my show this year, though. But I kinda like it. It's a bit of a history lesson for them. It's better than education lily insanity on the first night, we had the German ambassador to a stray Elliott turn back. My god. Did she have a confusing? And she brought the German ambassador to Poland talk about having your work cut out for you that as a a heavy Judy job, darling. It is and so you know, is is your content really aimed at children pavement bringing kids alone. You know, what it's it's not actually anything to full on and Hannis. They've all got the Netflix these days. I'm not saying anything that. They haven't heard of there are a couple of multi words, but nobody's left with their children halfway through the show in disgrace. Let me put them on the a lot of the jokes sh over the head. You know, and you've got a seven piece band is that he's a seven piece band this year. Yes. That called the ungrateful bastards, and let me tell you. They are the only musicians who wanted to work with me this festival. Yes. Put it that way you'd be hard to work with. How can we do? You wanna be a Davis? Sometimes you've gotta let one link. So did you learn all about divas in America's got talent? Honey, I I was pretty tame compared to some of the people over there. Yes. I was very easy to work work with. But I you might be referencing salmon coun- he is a bit of a diva himself special relationship is on. I come to find the tractive about him. You know that in the money. Then I can help. So you can you give us a little bit in your show. Obviously, I'm without spoiling team. But can you share a little bit of just give us a little bit of a was invited to go on the show because it's called America's compelling, but apparent be thousand? They imported me in the Alex. Yes. But the national superstar, of course, they take. You know, he's a businessman on the he knows how television ratings work, and they had a spike last year. What can I say, it's the hands factor? Spike on television last year this year. I'm the embezzler. What's happened with the ticket sales. Thank you. You're welcome in the world's various grandba-. Thank you next. The superstar palate is draw cadre gets a community service as well as well as I mean, I'm really the Mother Theresa refrains Bellingham giving. That's that's my biggest fault in left. Alex. I'm to giving. Maybe. Yes. I mean, can you believe I'm still single the only man texting me these days is Clive Palmer. But what can I say people have been put on this earth for charitable reasons? You know, I'm up there with ball. No, Bob Geldof except far less irritating. Sorry, Pete Agha's is gonna ask. This is a man who this is what happens. This is. What happens the miniature become a star coattails? They wanna ride on them thou wings. He has called his show. Look Manno, Hans he has used imagery. There is similar to mine. I attended the show on Sunday with my legal team. And we are drafting up a a subpoena as at the. Moment. It's been awhile since that man's had a subpoena and his next show. Let me just say Peter girls next fringe show will likely be called cease and desist. But don't they say imitation is the highest form until I saw the show. I thought that. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Then he is wearing one of my original costumes, though. I've again again, I give a donated the to him. Now back. I mean, it's. I need. It's been stretched beyond any sort of shape. I mean, well pays a shape, isn't it? I guess so tell me about your costumes, then well, Hannity, they're all handcrafted by my own mother. Yes, we have spent so much money at the K fabrics. She has sown so many sequins in her lifetime that you you know, she's getting a little bit. Well, how can Helen kill? I will say that the eyesight is not what it used to be. But it's a mother's love is in its mother's love. And you know, she's she's whipping up costumes that really only a mother could be proud of. I think on Nari. They're beautiful works. Well, I mean, you know, now you see them at the festivals. You see them everywhere. Do you have? Or does your mom have a favorite costume? Can you do that? Or is that? Favor favorite costs to am fickle. So it kinda changes from week to week darlings. But I will say when I get a new costume usually just wear it and wear it. And where like it's uniform like I really become attached to it. So I've your janey I sat in two thousand and four was that. How did you grow your you'll superstardom obviously all natural talent shines through? But what other things how do you grow an audience? You know, I did as many gigs as possible. I remember in the very early days we used to call every pub in we used to call nightclubs. We would say we're going to come and do ten minutes in the middle of the dance floor with turn up a Davar goes with a CD put the DJ on with do a few songs and then leave fly fly fly. So I just think get yourself out that as much as possible. I know a lot of artists say I don't want to work for free. I don't wanna do a free gig. But sometimes you know, what you will be. Pay the venture and the payment is your growing an audience. So I think that's kind of the thing that you just have to do infringe just put yourself at there as much as possible. I mean, Honey look at me. I'm practically Kim Kardashian of the fringe output put myself up on anything, and he is that just really going to have that commitment to a long time. I think so. Yep. I think you're going to build your mainland mailing list from people that are tickets. You can get the Email addresses. You've got to kind of cultivated over a long time. It's not going to happen overnight. But it will happen. Maybe she was born with it. Maybe it's maybe lean. Okay. You know, how important do you think having Adelaide fringe is for South Australia, end, the style? I think we should be celebrating more than we are. I think everybody in Adelaide knows what it is everybody in Adelaide knows. It's the time to be here. I think nationally we need to be tell getting the word out there more. Also, I think you don't really understand what the fringes until you saying that for yourself, you know, and then you tell your friends about it. Then you're all my God. We've got to go to Adelaide, and I think slowly people are starting to get the message that well at leads not the sleepy town. And you know, but I think we could do a lot more to kind of get the word out there. We know about it here. But I don't think people far away the way know about it as much as they should if you had to try and pinpoint what is it that you think is your favorite thing about fringe? Oh god. Oh my gosh. Have you pinpoint what is happening in a month? Whether so much happening down to one thing. It's just come be part of it. All yes, exactly. Don't waste it. It's the most wonderful time of the year. You know, the song? I'd say we'll say it's Christmas. It's not Inge. Well, thank you so much for joining us hand. Oh my God. Honey. Thank you, darling. Thank you to your listeners both of them. And our what a pleasure. This is the end darlings. I would not use this opportunity to be so crass and tacky to promote hands lack a German at six thirty in the author gone and gladly tickets available at Hans official dot com or Adelaide fringe dot com. That you I wouldn't do that. I would not use this opportunity. I just wanna use this opportunity to thank you for having me. And just to say what the pleasure it's been for you. Be sure to subscribe to the Adelaide fringe podcast and never miss an episode to get the most out of your Adelaide fringe experience. Visit WWW dot Adelaide fringe dot com. Dodi you would you can browse shows by genre and location access fringed deals and a whole lot. More full regular fringe updates. Follow our social media channels all subscribe to a newsletter paddle aid fringe plug. Const is produced by narrative marketing who believed that stories connect individuals and that storytelling compulsively impact the world.

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 What is the future for Sir Philip Green?  podcast

Today in Focus

27:41 min | 1 year ago

What is the future for Sir Philip Green? podcast

"Today, how Philip green built the business empire that he might now, be on the verge of losing and on Monday, the president of the United States called the mayor of London city-khan a stone cold loser con gives us his response. It has been tumultuous few weeks Forsa Philip green last week, he was charged in the US with four counts of misdemeanor assault. Following allegations from fitness and stop to an Arizona said, green had repeatedly touched her in appropriately, which he strenuously denies and his retail empire. The Acadia could face administration and less today. Creditors can agree on Green's, restructure plan? We're talking top shop top man Wallace miss Selfridge Dorothy Perkins last week. It was announced that the flagship miss Selfridge store on Ocsar street with clothes on top of Twenty-three, more arcada stores around the country, putting eighteen thousand people's livelihoods at risk. If the business collapses, the job on the huge hole in okay Tius pension fund so with no clearances from Arcadia. I'm with Sevilla not being in the country we decided to go and find him. Repent neat is the guardians wealth. Correspondent he recently approached green about the potential collapse of his company. So we flew out, Monaco, it was pretty easy to find Linhart greens, your because it's the biggest in the day, it was no sign of sufficient, we went to his favorite restaurant. We went to a couple of bars that he's been tied. We didn't have any luck. So we sat down in this cafe on the seafront, and I was I excuse me to the couple next to us. And you haven't seen that green heavy and they said, yes. He was having lunch just twenty minutes ago, and then just this whereabouts, give up Jane's, video, producers says what shower is behind. I turn around and there he is. And he's sort of trademark as gray. Tracksuit excuse me for that. That. Name reports from the guardian have you got second that down? Stop stop back while you waste your time. But you know what people are interested in why no incident more than one billion in dividends taken out if that is. From the guardian I'm direction today in focus with further allegations against him and his company facing insolvency, what's the future? So Philip green. Being a business correspondent, specially in retail, is sometimes a bit like doing sort of Hello for business because you have this kind of characters you have some very interesting characters that you follow through the career and Philip green is probably one of the most colorful characters in the industry. Sarah, Butler is a garden journalist writing about retail companies consumer goods and workers rights. She's been charting, Philip Green's career for over twenty years, I would ring him up for quote about something and he was I'm not talking to you. I need to talk to you, and he'd start shouting on the needs of write that down as you put it into the store, and like the holding your imaginary Fain first away from your head. Yes, it probably like the five I five or six years. I didn't really get the phone near the year too often. But then, and for years, he was always on the phone. He's got this old style. Knock your phone, every journalist knew him, he would know us by name. He knew everyone in the city. New everyone in the industry. He didn't really have PR's he handled his relationship with the media, he spoke to journalists. Philip green is the main, we now associate with your Katie group. But in fact, this is a business that has its roots in retail before Philip green was even born as the Burton group, new coupon clippers dream monkey betton painter percent in one thousand nine hundred to skate, the Russian poke Portland's and he started a knee menswear brand by nineteen twenty nine he'd listed on the London stock exchange and it grew hugely after the second World War, when it provided de mobilization seats for turning soldiers from pinstripe huge budding businessman to light chicks country. The mass market started to take off independent Taylor's being replaced everyone could afford something that have been made in a factory, and so in Sheffield in the sixties his son, Raymond Burton setup top shop. In that she doesn't look through. Doing. L inclination. The best ingred is up and running through the seventies, and the eighties, it sets up more and more highstreet brands that many, which we know today, and then it's renamed the Arcadia group in the early nineties securing what is Philip green doing his dad. I think run electricals business on his mom, apparently sets up the first coin operated laundry, and the entrepreneurs. Yeah. Entrepreneurs but of quite well off he went to private school. And, you know, he's not a rags to riches story, his dad died when he was twelve by the time he was twenty one he'd left school with no levels, but he was running a property business with his mom and together, they set up a number of different businesses, most of which didn't do very well, including the Joan Collins jeans company. Got a lot of publicity, I think about it, yet they are linked to. But he's gradually sort of building his contacts and his knowledge on his financial resources and he's becoming an expert in doing deals. Say nine thousand nine hundred eight this is when he really becomes known, and he bought into a company called, which was a menswear business wasn't doing very well. He kind of restructured and expanded it and he partly did that by getting his his name known in the city is this sort of idea of cooling up people talking up his business talking up himself telling the kind of myth of who he was. And so I'm day was a small company, but it got a lot of column inches. But by nineteen ninety two he didn't liver the profits they promised and the shares in the company dived, and he was asked it, and really his name was sort of mud, and really, yes, this is his first sort of full from grace, if you like. And despite headlines in the nineties forecasting. His demise. He and his businesses do actually continue to have success. He still had the family property empire still buying and selling businesses even at that time, he was known for his lavish lifestyle hosting dinner parties and owning this amazing house John's word and apparently a peacock green Bentley. And then in two thousand and two ofter continuing to buy and sell companies for a decade after that crash Philip green gets a very appealing opportunity to buy Arcadia, what at that time he was riding on a high. He was known as the king of the high street. And so he gets involved in a deal to buy Arcadia. And what did he do with Katya offer? He acquired it, he tried to source things, more cheaply costs and restructure in terms of building the bronze top shop at that time. It was almost like its own fiefdom. It was run by this lady. Jane Shepherdson it was the cash cow for the business. And he was sensible enough to let her get on and run it. But after a number of years of kind of leaving her to own devices largely he started to meddle meddling. He is someone who so overly so confident he thinks he, he knows it any won't be told by anyone else. He wanted to control every aspect. Say in two thousand and six deal with signed fa- Kate moss. He was then even more famous than she is now. To do her own label fool top show. This you could wear religious to lunch. Before Kate Moss's range, even launched Jane Shepherdson, the boss atop shop had resigned. I'm not sure it was just that deal. But I think that deal was a sign of the increasing meddling in the top shot world and she had enough and just left. So he's meddling in things that top shop, but also in the whole business. They'll Katya group what happens his wife has moved to Monaco, on the businesses are transferred into her name, tax haven, and in two thousand and five the greens pay themselves. One point two billion pound dividend from locadia, which is still the biggest corporate payout in British history. So this means that they didn't pay any tax on this massive dividend. Someone who is working for Acadia told me is that just before the greens pay themselves? It's one point t the impound dividend in two thousand and five they flew a bunch of the senior staff out to Monaco. To celebrate the company's results. They didn't tell them about this dividend. So they take the sponge of staff to their apartment, and they show them around Tina greens, walk in wardrobe and her shoe collection, and then they take them to the and let them watch a video of one of Philip's parties. They put them on the plane home and the next morning will the stuff wake up, and they see that this one point two billion pound dividend has been paid of the company. Rather than being invested in. Stores or exciting product wages or whatever it might be. They all felt pretty gutted. Three these as around two thousand seven two thousand eight. I mean, he already is a pretty well known public persona, but he really is becoming quite famous. Now. He's going from being just a business personality to being a kind of celebrity personality in Simon Cowe, who was involved with the expect his holidaying in Bob betas with Michael winner on his fiftieth birthday, he flew hundreds of people to cypress for toga party, where Rod Stewart was the entertainment his ability to make money. It's been noticed by government and David Cameron. If an appoints him as an adviser people, you never forget the first time you meet this incredible infectious enthusiasm. You just saw this evening credible passionate for his business then for his sixtieth. He's still doing it. He's playing everyone to Mexico and there's Leonardo Di Caprio. Naomi Campbell on the beach. Stevie Wonder performed the party apparently. In two thousand he acquired British Home stores, which is a bit of a Stewart of the British hoist rate. Oldies and be h. So he the business for two hundred million pounds and within a couple of years. He had cost profits went up the green family had paid themselves hundreds of millions of pounds worth of dividends. I guess, things started to change by the time goes to the credit crunch and two thousand seven eight and that's when the pension went from having enough funds in it to having a having a deficit. So Philip green had started to try and Selby eight chess around that time in two thousand and seven but it wasn't until twenty fifteen that he managed to find a buyer in Dominic Chapell a former bankrupt who bought it for a pound. And the company went bust about a year later, Philip green, the multi-billionaire odor of chop shop who seemed to have it all now battling to save his reputation and knighthood following the collapse in April it'd be HFS the famous high. Street name. He bought for two hundred million pounds in two thousand and sold for a quick. He left up is very broken. But what did he walk away with just before the business went bust? I did this investigation into how much money the green family taken out. I got to about five hundred eighty million pounds so interesting the around the same amount as the pension deficit. So let me check this. The green family had taken out around five hundred eighty million pounds, which was about the same amount as it was missing from the pension fund money, which belonged to the employees. A parliamentary inquiry, and there was enormous public pressure on VIP to put money into the pension fund. So Philip people want to know why you're on holiday when they think that you're supposed to be sorting out the pension go away. When you tell you go away go away away, then piece written to take his knighthood away from them, which was pretty important to him. I think it was about a year later, he put in three hundred sixty three million pounds into the pension fund, and he did then make a public apology in a joint committee hearing. No intent on my part, very thing to be like this, and it didn't need to be like this. And I just wanted to apologize. What was he like, as a boss? He would ring his staff lousy date shouting down the phone at them people to stand up in front meetings with their peers or their, their own starve, humiliate people. The guardian understands there are least seven cases in which former members of staff have received substantial payouts to settle complaints of sexual harassment bullying or racist abuse against green. Intimately involved in the case of a powerful businessman using nondisclosure agreements and substantial payments to conceal the truth about serious and repeated sexual harassment racist abuse and bullying which is compulsively continuing the twentieth, eighteen the full McAvan it minister, Peter Hain used the legal protection of the house of lords to publicly name Philip green as the businessman behind these allegations, feel it's my duty under parliamentary privilege to name Philip green as the individual in question given that the media have been subject, an injunction preventing publication of the full, details of a story, which is clearly in the public interest. The guardians Owen Jones has been reporting Philip green, and he's been in touch with many former employees have told him what it was like to work for him. Philip green has always claimed that his behavior was merely banter, you've spoken to former and current employees. None of whom have signed days and heard his defense does seem like a fair assessment. No to be, and indeed, when I put that to one of the people who came forward, they said banter suggests some kind of exchange or jocular language, but it is in is one way is intense. You have to keep your mouth shut. What talking about here is an abuse of power. So what happened? How did you come to report on Philip green routinely? Bizarrely. This function on Twitter. We can leave your messages, open. And I just did. Because some join this do because people get in touch with give go, and I'm not joking within about three hours. Somebody got in touch. He used to work for syphilis, green and has has since left. They came forward. And then I did a on social media for anybody else who who's willing to come forward it work for civil at green and several came forward. So it was obviously something people to be honest, really, really wanted to talk about what sort of things were they telling you. Repeatedly allegedly slapping, the bottoms of women who worked for him, he would go in meetings and say, you know, all you naughty goes, do you need your bottom slapped long lingering hugs creeping pin behind women and corridors and then making them jump by getting, and then caressing their shoulders, t- rish all them? And he'd call women sweetheart darling love when one woman dejected to that he told her to shortly effort lawn example, a woman from an Indian background who mocks for being overweight saying has she had so many samosas one time. There was this presentation of lots of male models. And he just angry Ritz them down allegedly yelling, don't want these gay shit. Just everyone expecting to grin and bear this sort of treatment, what it was put to me is this wasn't banter. It was a climate fear. So they all of the people came forward, one to kind of encourage other people to have the confidence in conformed into an and to open up a national conversation. Sense then from remoteness of solve a person at green as well the image that the allegations portray is, is someone who is a bully, a on a on a colossal scale. Around the time the allegations emerged last autumn that green moved to Monaco, and he hasn't come back to the UK since I think that speaks for itself in terms of his plans for the company and his involvement in it. Today, the future of his business will be decided against a backdrop of a rise in cheap online fashion companies like ace sauce and boo. The Acadia group has struggled, like many shops on the high street. And now it's creditors. Need to decide if greens plant, restructure, it is enough to save the group, from insolvency. Few months ago, it was confirmed, he'd hired advises to try and do a proper restructure of the business that was kind of a line that he had had enough. His hopes of kind of producing ton around. Probably gone. It just wants to net down as well. He as he can before he just can go off enjoy life on his yachts, and forget about it. One of the questions now is, whether this Fulmer king of the high street can ever recover from this. No, I mean, I think this reputation of sufficient green often kids, right, the touches by the fear that I always have to be Saudi cynical is the establishment tends to look after their own and you know, very powerful people who alleged to terrible things alike. You still live the rest of the lies in wealth, and comfort, and affluence, and that's reality of the order in which we currently live. Thanks very much. Aaron lewis. Billet green has always categorically and holy denied being guilty of unlawful sexual or racist behavior. You can follow more on this story at the garden dot com. Coming up. The mayor of London tells us why Trump shouldn't have been received on a state. Visit. Now on Sunday. The mayor of London said, city-khan wrote a comment piece for the observer saying that it was unbridled to receive Trump on a state visit and compared him to dictate his fascists a mental Monday, Trump arrived. And as he landed, he tweeted, a response to con- saying he'd been foolishly nasty and was a stone cold LIZA. He also added something about him. Well, the mayor of New York being short, it was hard to tell who or what he meant, and then yesterday in a press conference, Trump added. Well, I think he's been a not very good mayor from what I understand he's done. A poor job. Crime is up a lot of problems. And I don't think he should be criticizing a Representative of the United States that can do so much good for the United Kingdom. Here's the con on what he makes this. I was just all, you know. I'm forty years old, the last time I heard that's name calling, I was eleven it's odd behavior for a little side business. Who's the leader of a country? Put aside that countries, the USA is for him to decide how he makes use of Twitter and what he wants to call me, let's say this, if he can get this rustled by the mayor of London heaven, help us, if North Korea says things that upset him to explain what beef he has with me. Maybe doesn't like sure people and I don't know I'm really happy to debate. Anybody who has used that are different to me. I don't believe in working there. An echo chamber trying to get across the Sunday was when you see some things that he's said and done from bind people come to this country because of the faith separating children, from their parents defending white supremacists Neo Nazis, and anti see mites. Amplifying the tweets of racist. From this country when you see former campaign manager doing the lecture circuit with far right groups when you see the Foret playbook been used picking on minority communities stoking up fair, picking on immigrants. I can't say Sodom we're important for people intuition of parent influence to, as it is the contact that Donald Trump. And I've had go back to him running for president when he said that he wanted to ban all Muslims from entrance to the USA. He'd make an exception for me. Because always the mirror run than mine. A plight cuties pointed out, there's an exceptional about me, and he was inadvertently or virtually plane to the hands of those who think that Islam Muslim is incompatible would be in a westerner since then he's decided to save various things about me into resort to name, Colin. When Theresa May I went to America and invited Donald Trump for a state visit, I said, then it was too soon. Let's remind us trees may jump to play in the first person to meet Donald Trump to shore up her support in the Tory party. I just think it's premature not just because you don't even president for like a week. But when you add into the mix the fact, this is a president whose views. Discreet on so many things it is odd, because it gives the impression we condone all the things he said, and done as unbecoming of us to have to be sycophants to a best friend. Don why Jerry Coleman coach, the state biker is because I suspect Jeremy Corbyn things state banquet is wrongful this president at this stage, maybe in the future. That would be worthy of, I think, is also situation that saw things that he's said and done in the recent past off things layer policy disagrees with rose thing is the realization that the expectations aren't close ally for higher than they are come to, like China. So for those same Jeremy Corbyn was wrong to go to state banquet. This one, I'd say respectful manner is right for our expectations on China different expectations on the USA. But in both situations, we shouldn't be afraid of saying, disagree with each other. We should've working relationship with the USA, but means by the way, of course, working together on big issues, much to both of our countries to our planet, but also calling each other problem, we think they're wrong. That's what mature friends, do which countries do close President Trump talked about protecting and preserving America's interest. I and of course, we should also think about the, the reality is that, you know, this is a country with whomever, special relationship that will carry you in by the. In deal even after Theresa May's going and even after Trump's gone, I think he should be here this week to commemorate the data and it is really important for us to commemorate what happened seventy five years ago just on the western front on the eastern front as well. Is important Hugh, sacrifices made many for stove is the money for the state banquet. No need for all the balls. And the money's being spent on a state visit. That's all for today. My thanks to Sarah, Butler Jane's, repent. Neat and city-khan before we go. We were really pleased to hear the news of the police have dropped their investigation into the journalist's Trevor Bernie and Barry McCaffrey for their work on the murders of six Catholics in Lachlan island, which is in Northern Ireland in nineteen Ninety-four. We covered this story in our episode investigating the Lachlan island murders. On March twenty first, you can find online. Today's program was produced by Mike row, Lucy Greenwell and cheek as the sound design is by execute. And the executive producers on a co Jackson, I'm filming not we'll be back tomorrow.

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