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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

13:09 min | 1 year ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Just a few minutes to do here for this because I want to get to some phone calls but I sort of teased this earlier so I don't want to disappoint people one of the stories are one of the locations you went to of course the the Stanley hotel in Estes park Colorado the inspiration for Stephen king's novel the shining what happened there yes going to the family was interesting being a fan of that book you know Stephen King was inspired after having a dream while staying there of this tremendous like sort of ghostlike macabre interaction between his three year old son running through the corridors being chased by a fire hose he got you know sort of cupboard in sweat I went out to this alchemy with a cigarette and broke the you know bare bones of the story right there so you know when walking in its halls Richard you can imagine yourself being tasted you know you have this historic mansion it's an epic setting it's the quintessential setting for any sort of haunted hotel movie but the thing is those feelings seem more than just some form of culture is ation right they're not a lie the phenomenon seems to be real the stories that come out of this place certainly are we also I went there and I got together with Karl Pfeiffer and Connor Randall these are two notable ghost investigators they can actually be seen in the documentary series hello you're on Amazon prime and Carl who would become my collaborator on the U. for that short film series actually available on you tube so Carla Connor we're the reason that the Gators for a number of years at the Stanley hotel you're looking at you guys and I think for over five years perhaps with the investigators there almost every night leading tourism and staying later to find communication defined relationship with what was going on there so they have most certainly conducted the most investigations in this location history and over time now I seem to be able to identify unique individual spiritual moreover develop relationships with them and so as they continued these relationships the the start of the five different ways to divine conversations and one of the ways they came up with was something called the yes this message basically Carl in corner take in SB seven spirit box which usually is placed out in the open and it's put on place it acts as if a broken radio receiver it's sweet and tracks the radio signals into chunks of sort of randomized noise many ghost hunters ghost investigators believe that you know you can ask the same questions and bits of content will come up to the random chunks of noise well to take a little bit of the I don't sort of the controversy over its effectiveness of peridot we aren't really a first reading into information that could be Quintus something paranormal they decide like Hey you know what let's separate this process a little bit so they hooked corner office to appear of noise canceling headphones Adam down in the concert basement all which is one of the most active places they put a blindfold offers for face and at this point in time they now had a way to conduct this experiment much more scientific way Carl would ask questions out into the great blue yonder and would simply listen for any responses that seem to make sense coming from corner to corner all you can hear is the SB seven all you can hear is the fifth of information coming and going and what they developed was really stunning conversation explained they would go on for hours with a call and response using this device so I'm there in my room on the fourth floor of the family I've been taken to the quarters already and here I am with my bed covered with their ghost hunting equipment yeah I I you know I've told you before it was like a scene out of taxi driver right and instead of a gun that can stop a gold card forty yards or something it was you know these different devices they said you know let's do it here it's fun sitting impairment Connors in the corner and he's beginning to interpret what the signals are in sure enough you know mining starts coming up things like Jim are you recording you know things for me seem otherworldly you know I think the words the spirit voices the spirit voices are calling you by name they're they're referencing you it appears okay and are responding to some of Carl's question and some of my questions what's funny about this situation and to show how dog Carlin Conner where at this point they were not impressed you know based off of the evidence that they had collected so far and the real blast conversations they had developed in the past this is like kind of nothing to them this is like sort of a non event but to me as someone who's an initiated it was startling and it felt like there was a presence right in the room for perhaps with us in some point in time Richard I realize that this was my room and I had to later go to sleep at night thank that's right minus all the the ghost tracking equipment how was your night it you know it was fine I've had several nights hello going off on the cation you from that where I have experienced things I have had instances where I've felt like manta something come back with me that's always my actual biggest fear of doing this is if there's a possibility of your answer these energies or whatever it is following me that freaks me out just the idea of it so that has not happened I have some things that I do just in terms of rituals and I like to participate in very non a cultish ritual like listening to certain Fleetwood Mac songs that seems like sort of maybe protect me and someone I believe and I believe since intent is a part of the conversation with the phenomenon and one's mind content is aligned and I'm thinking straight I'm feeling right I think I'm okay but there's been situations like in New Orleans where you know I feel is I was I was shook awake by someone at the foot of the bed after the alarm someone didn't reset the alarm and it went off at like three in the morning and so I'm turning this off and and the best start shaking like Hey why'd you turn that off it's time to get up and I nor it because back to sleep the alarm goes off again of course because you think of the worst in hotel rooms and sure enough I I wake up at night turn around in the bed checks again like a very friendly you know sort of made me truly kind of a you know you're supposed to get off balance it was disappointing time where remember some things that that they're great investigator Jon Tenney told me he told me that we have a choice in communicating and our relationship with the things we have a choice to play the game or not and I simply leave at this point in time I should say something and so even though it felt kind of silly I set up in my bed bath and you know listen I understand the you heard my alarm go off and I know you're trying to help me out but I just want to let you know that it was a mistake and I really need to get some sleep so can you please just you know screaming alone for right now and if you have anything to say you know maybe we can do it tomorrow morning and I was able to kind of calmly rest and get back to sleep by you know whether there was a situation that a part of me kind of like fabricator made up there is an ability to help yourself cope with some of the stuff when anything is possible seemingly you need to find some space actually ground and take control of the power in your hands even if it's anecdotal you know absolutely all right let's go to the calls and well let's see wildcard line Tom is in Spring Valley California Tom good morning welcome to coast the main show I just want to ask a quick question on your awful line and that is because he believes is generally used to people the vampire he interviewed dispossessed or demonic in any way thanks Richard all right Tom thank you all right Jim I think I know your answer but have at it yeah no I don't yeah I don't I don't think that he even I don't know you know his religion is futile right so I think even that the constructs of the typical Christian belief system is not something that he subscribe to right so I think that his relationship to that religion in terms of being a tester even a maligned or malevolent energy is present especially in terms of how he handled himself you know he really is a fantastic guy a positive person and that's reflected in his actions all right let's go the wildcard line again Robert is in Tuscaloosa Alabama Robert good morning welcome to coast glad to be here I have a question for your gifts and also have a little recommendation I like to give them when I get through with the question they wouldn't want to show that came on CW about a family of vampires in New Orleans that had been there for generations when he was in New Orleans the hearing hammering families that have not been there for a long time that's a great question I didn't but I did however stumble upon the tremendous amount of vampire lore this is within the city that such a big part of it you're looking at the micelles around Jacques Saint Laurent I believe I could be that that's just off the top of my head which was a a short in stature alleged vampire that found his way to New Orleans from France and there is the vampires in the covenant which is this is the story of you know at the time when New Orleans was a small city and they needed to increase the population the covenant and actually sent for women to be brought over to New Orleans and upon that journey they became deathly ill and I have to open up stairs and locals solve these daunting we women that look like something atrocious like a blood sucking vampire they fed into these ideas and notions and you know felt disbelief and this mess around a basement full of vampires that at one point in time broke through a window in X. gate and then shortly after that the the windows were boarded up I believe I told that story correctly but even if I didn't the spirit of it is New Orleans is orange with the vampire lore and so if you need to go to any place to find them not within the shadows flee out front living loud this is the place to go all right Robert you have a quick recommendation yeah he was telling me about his experience at the Stanley mo tail and on your investigation as if your candlelight worry about attachments have you ever heard of all the listed banishing ritual I know I haven't yeah it's not hard to learn and it's real good for getting rid of negative energies okay I'll take a look at it I'm interested in a wide.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

11:18 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Good to have you with us pleasure to be here. George thanks for having them with our old colleague Dave Schrader a couple of years ago. Weren't you both of you? Yeah. You're good guy, your friend. So let's talk about the paranormal, and I'll talk to you individually for a while. Then just both of you jump in anytime you want, but Greg how did you get started in this? Well, Dana, and I quite literally grew up investigating the paranormal we've been doing it for twenty years driving around at night listening to coast to coast on our journeys into haunted houses as kids. And then we started to get more serious about it and about three years ago. We said, well, let's give this a crack. Let's see if we can do this full-time, and we launched the traveling museum of the paranormal and the occult and now we pretty much spend eight nine months out of the year on the road, traveling from host to coast presenting hall. Wanted objects collecting haunted objects helping people with any kind of paranormal problem domesticating pretty much anything you name it. Do you go all over the country? Hope it literally host Costa California to main Florida all over now. What do you drive? I mean, traveling museum to me sounds like you pick up something in this huge trucker van what do you? What do you have believe it or not it is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? Which is I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. It really. It's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find in nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people there's good people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less. Scared of the idea of the unexplained in the paranormal, it's becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with quite a few times. You know, there's things that I think you find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens at least a few times a year. You know, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from a floor because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens. A lotta times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of a I guess for lack of a better word, cloud and times of high emotion of. Times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a a building is the biggest hotted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And then the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg you've put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who was experiencing some strange activity on his property specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as Dobelin sometimes people will call them holler goblins. Sometimes they would have completely different kind of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general, well where we were? Researching actually the name of of the documentary is the name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called hell your Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name. Really interesting because one of the things that we had just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft, these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started looking at it the same way, and you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial and he desperately wanted us to come and documentary. This. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up us tracking down this case as we were doing that. And we were finding all of these different similar the similar sightings. Hot going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think they were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean we. We initially were very skeptical of what was happening to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds and just as far as the investigation goes, we try to remain discuss possible. Because there is a lot of people out there who substantially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hell, you're I've kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of retuned to a location it. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down. The five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. Yes. There are they're five different parts. The first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making, and it just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries on Ravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be very simple investigation. We were going to go to hell earlier, we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to peel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomena. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon self was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up. What are the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym Terry risk. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the day, we got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you were so close? Right. Well, that's.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

01:42 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KTRH

"That Dana is a fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand and think think a little bit differently. Does the tarot for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has a for me was always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point. Time. So this really a great tool for me, and especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit in Hallier when we get two points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go in next, and it can tend to be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation, lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shot the thing this actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer, a incredibly talented videographer and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed and prodded for it. And he made it look just beautiful used. Wide angle lenses on it cinema cinema cinematographer that.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

01:36 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we're going to see what was going on there. But as we started to peel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon self was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up. What are the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Terry wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the day, we got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you were so close, right? Well, that's an interesting thing..

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WLAC

WLAC

11:50 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WLAC

"Dealing with very very go. See stuff poltergeists things like that. This is so much bigger and stranger and weirder. You know, we're not you apologised, and we were dealing with UFO stuff. We were were not crypt zoologist, and we were dealing with with strange creatures in strange footprints, much broader and a lot more difficult to track down because it seems to us like the phenomena shifts and shapes depending on the time period. And depending on how people are looking for it. It's very lucid what is the so-called ESTES method. What is that? So they asked us my food is a method that our friends Carlin Connor who again, our fellow investigators actually came up with an SS park, Colorado, and it utilizes spirit box, which is a pretty common ghost hunting tool a set of. Really good headphones and something to cover your eyes with and basically what you're doing. Is. You have a person sitting with the spirit, boss and headphones plugged into it. And they're listening to what's coming through on the spirit boss, and then you have the other investigators that are sort of standing around this person asking the questions, and the idea is that the person with the headphones on is completely cut off from the rest of their sentences. So if the questions that were asking lineup was what the person is saying, then that's something interesting. We can kind of look at that. As potentially something else communicating with us. So that's us. Now, the spirit boxes that the one that George Meeks invented. I think it's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SP seven is the most popular one, and that's been on the market for ten twenty years, and it's pretty defensive and how people use it. I for one I'm not a fan of them. But after I saw the method performed I was blown away. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect to the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys bring anything from? You know, your thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that. We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing and Hallier's there's a lot of the booth. On the groundwork. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit is the fact that Dana za fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand in think think a little bit differently. Does the terro- for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I absolutely it has for me taros always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point in time. So it's really a great tool for me. And especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit. And how you're when we get to points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go in next, and it can tend to? Be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. So I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shots the thing. This actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was incredibly talented videographer and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look just beautiful used wide angle lenses on it cinema cinema cinematographer that you've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. I. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate again Hellier is just the start. It's just a prologue. And even just you know, we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit obstructing and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kind of challenge sort of the paranormal television tropes, and the things that have been set in place for many years. And so our our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion is really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old bind. So it's it's fairly old. And the other thing is it was a place where the native Americans they would only hunt there. So they thought that the the white guys are crazy for moving in on this land. They might have been right for sure I think that they were and one of the things there's a lot of the the old native American legends about the moon. Knight people that's one of the things that starts to pop up in these areas with these these little demonstrative people that lived in case. So again, you see this thread of these things popping up for hundreds of years and people have just given them different names. Were there many UAW over reports about this region? One of the first things that happened again when we first came to hell you're in. Two thousand fifteen was that we had people coming up to us and talking to us about a huge UFO that was the size of a football field that floated above the town, and they were really excited that we were going to listen to them telling these stories because they were convinced that the local newspapers said kind of shrug it off is just being a weather balloon, and that they you know, they had government people coming and telling them. No, this wasn't a UFO. It was it was just some kind of a weather balloon. So that was one of the very first things that we heard specifically from people in hell, and as we continue to do this boots on the ground work, more and more people started to say, you know, there was this other we saw and that happened in the sixties, and it was huge. And no one knew what to do. And it was weird because we just kind of stood there and then shrugged our shoulders like, oh, it's like a puzzle. Isn't it? Just keep falling into place. Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk. Their websites are linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. We'll take calls with them next hours. We talk about their paranormal investigating what would you recommend to Greg to people who want to get into this field? Maybe starts, you know, small, but they love it would what do you recommend? I think you know, people are always looking for the the the next big thing or the big content house that they want to go and investigate or something famous. But the fact of the matter is there's mysteries in everyone's backyard. I think that's the easiest place to start. You know, when I was a kid I was investigating the mysteries in my own backyard. And that's the best place to start in read read a lot. And and read things that maybe other people aren't reading and have have an open mind, you know, one of the things that we've noticed is a lot of these different communities, whether they're Bigfoot hunters or you Afo investigators or psychics, they don't talk to each other. They segregate one another because it's always nice. To have someone who's a little crazier than you. So we do our best to try and stay one foot in one foot out. And that's what I would. That's what I would recommend everybody. Just get a little bit of everything and form your own opinion. And you're doing this full you glad you are. Oh, absolutely. I mean, we were doing it. We were doing it at night at part time, and we had, you know, quote, unquote, real jobs. And so now, we're able to dedicate more time to it. We're able to actually work on making breakthroughs in paranormal research, and we're able to travel coast to coast and and lecture about this type of thing. Couple minutes. We have before the top of the hour. Tell us a little bit more about the traveling museum. The museum actually it started by accident, really Greg, and I have been investigating the paranormal for twenty years and throughout that time. We've had a lot of people bring us objects that they didn't want any more from onto locations where they've come from our very own investigation. So it actually started a few years ago when we were given the opportunity to give a lecture at an event, and they gave us a table. We didn't really know what to do with it. So we thought we would bring some of the stuff with us, and that sort of how it kind of snowballed. And now, you know, all of these years later, we have a huge tent that we travel with and we bring tons of hundred objects and allow people to kind of interact with them and investigate with them. And learn more about the history behind a lot of what has been the reaction of people when they see the museum. I think there's a bit of the there's always a lot of peer pressure that happens in front of the fence a lot of people kind of nudging their friends like you go in first. But for the most part, we don't travel with anything that is potentially dangerous. We do have a lot of those types of objects. But we would never bring them into the general public. So for the most part people are they're amazed. It's it's really fun to kind of be able to teach them about the history of a lot of the objects in and dove into the our investigations into them and show them. How we go about doing a lot of our paranormal investigation. Dana do you. Normally, you know, put any good curses on things or anything like that. As a witch. I constantly when you think about it this way all of the objects live in our house with us. So they're essentially are roommates and some of them are nice and some of them aren't. There's a lot of I do a lot of energy work. So nothing kind of has the opportunity to get stagnant. And usually when that energy get stagnant. Normally when it tends to kick up and we start hearing weird stuff in the house at three o'clock in the morning, Greg. How about you? You work alone a lot or you work with Dana primarily, I mean, Dana is my wife, so we're kind of stuck with each other. Thing. We're both as as as weird as one another. All right, stay with us. We're gonna come back in a moment to talk more about your investigations and also take paranormal phone calls for you right here on coast to coast AM, so don't touch you. Get daily.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

10:07 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Think that's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SP seven is the most popular one, and it's been on the market for ten twenty years and pretty defensive and how people use it. I for one I'm not a fan of them. But after I saw the SS method performed I was blown away. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the the the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys bring anything from thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that? We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing in Hellier. They're seeing a lot of the booth. On the groundwork. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit. As the fact that Dana is a fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand and think think a little bit differently. Does the terro- for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has a for me carols always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point in time. So it's really a great tool for me. And especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit. And how you're when we get to points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go next, and it can tend to be? See this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. So I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shots to thing. This actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was incredibly talented videographer and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look just beautiful used wide angle lenses on it cinema cinema cinematographer that you've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate again Hellier is just the start. It's just a prologue. And even just we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit abstract and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kind of challenge sort of the paranormal television tropes, and the things that have sort of been set in place for many years. And so our our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion. It's really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old mine. So it's it's fairly old. And the other interesting thing is it was a place where the native Americans they would only hunt there. So they thought that the the white guys are crazy for moving in on this land. They might have been right for sure I think that they were and one of the things is a lot of the the old native American legends about the moon eyed people that's one of the things that starts to pop up in these areas with the little community of people that lived in caves, so again, you see this thread of these things popping up for hundreds of years and people have just given them different names. Were there many you full reports about this region? One of the first things that happened again when we first came to L your back in. Thousand fifteen was you know, that we had people coming up to us talking to us about a huge UFO that was the size of a football field that floated above the town, and they were really excited that we were going to listen to them telling these stories because they were convinced that the local newspaper said kind of shrug it off as just being a weather balloon, and that they you know, they had government people coming and telling them. No, this wasn't a UFO. It was it was just some kind of a weather balloon. So that was one of the very first things that we heard specifically from people in house, and as we continue to do this boots on the ground work, more and more people started to say, you know, there was this other that we saw and that happened in the sixties, and it was huge. And no one knew what to do. And it was weird because we just kind of stood there and then shrugged our shoulders. It's like a puzzle, isn't it? I just keep falling into place. Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk. Their websites are linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. We'll take calls with them next hours. We talk about their paranormal investigating what would you recommend to get Greg to people who wanna get into this field? Maybe starts, you know, small, but they'd love it. What do you recommend? I think you know, people are always looking for the the the next big thing or the big haunted house that they want to go and investigate or something famous. But the the fact of the matter is there's mysteries in everyone's backyard. I think that's the easiest place to start. You know, when I was a kid I was investigating the mysteries in my own backyard. And that's the best place to start in read read a lot. And and read things that maybe other people aren't reading and have have an open mind, you know, one of the things that we've noticed is a lot of these different communities, whether they're Bigfoot hunters or you Afo investigators or psychics, they don't talk to each other. They segregate one another because. It's always nice to have someone who's a little crazier than you. So we do our best to try and stay one foot into want out. And that's what I would. That's what I would recommend everybody. Just get a little bit of everything and form your own opinion. And you're doing this full time. You glad you are. Oh, absolutely. I mean, we were doing it. We were doing it at night at part time, and we had, you know, quote, unquote, real jobs. And so now, we're able to dedicate more time to it. We're able to actually work on making breakthroughs in parallel research, we're able to travel coast to coast and and lecture about this type of thing. Couple minutes. We have before the top of the hour. Tell us a little bit more about the traveling museum. The museum actually it started by accident, really Greg, and I have been investigating the paranormal for twenty years and throughout that time. We've had a lot of people bring us objects that they didn't want any more from haunted locations or they've come from our very own investigation. So it actually started a few years ago when we were given the opportunity to give a lecture at an event, and they gave us a table. We didn't really know what to do with it. So we thought we would bring some of the stuff with us, and that sort of how it kind of snowballed. And now, you know, all of these years later, we have a huge tent that we travel with and we bring tons of hundred objects and allow people to kind of interact with them and investigate with them. And learn more about the history behind a lot of what has been the reaction of people when they see the museum. I think there's a bit of there. There's always a lot of peer pressure that happens in front of the fence. You see a lot of people kind of nudging their friends like you go in first. But for the most part, we don't travel with anything that is potentially dangerous. We do have a lot of those types of objects. But we would never bring them into the general public. So for the most part people are they're amazed. It's it's really fun to kind of be able to teach them about the history of a lot of the objects in and delve into the, you know, our investigations into them and show them how we go about doing a lot of our paranormal investigation. Dana do you normally, you know, put any good curses on things or anything like that. As a witch. I constantly when you think about it this way all of the objects live in our house with us. So they're essentially are roommates and some of them are nice. And some of them aren't there's a lot of I do a lot of energy work. So nothing kind of has the opportunity to get stagnant. And usually when that energy get stagnant is. Normally when it tends to kick up and we start hearing weird stuff in house at three o'clock in the morning in Greg. How about you? You work alone a lot or you work with Dana primarily, I mean, Dana's my wife, so we're kind of stuck with each other thing we're both as as as weird as one another stay with us. We're gonna come back in a moment and talk more about your investigations and also take paranormal phone calls for you right here on coast to coast AM, so don't touch you..

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

02:42 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Think it's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SP seven is the most popular one, and it's been on the market for ten twenty years, and it's pretty definitive and how people use it. I for one I'm not a fan of them. But after I saw the SS method performed I was blown away. Way. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys? Bring. I mean, anything from, you know, thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that. We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing and Hallier's they're seeing a lot of the boots on the ground work. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit is the fact that Dana is a fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand in think think a little bit differently. Does this terrible for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has for me taros always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point. Time. So this really a great tool for me, and especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit and Hallier when we get to points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go next, and it can tend to be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. So I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation, lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shot the thing this actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was a incredibly talented videographer and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

03:26 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KTRH

"Okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand in think think a little bit differently. Does the tarot for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has for me tells always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point. And. Time. So it's really a great tool for me. And especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit in Hallier when we get two points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction. Do we go next, and it can tend to be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation, lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shot the thing this actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was a incredibly talented videographer and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look just beautiful used. Wide angle lenses on it cinema cinema cinematographer that you've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate again. You know, Hellier is just the start. It's just a prologue. And even in just know, we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit abstract and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kind of challenge sort of the paranormal television tropes, and the things that have been set in place for many years. And so our our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion is really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old vine. So it's it's fairly old. And the other interesting thing is.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

13:33 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Nine seventy four hundred. And welcome back to coast to coast, George Noory with you along with Dana Matthews, and Greg Newkirk has we talk about their documentary Hellier. And of course, the documentaries out I'm getting emails from people who have seen it. Greg. Catholic. I I hope they're good matter of fact, your questions from one Justin in Dayton, Ohio said why didn't the team actually explore the train tunnel or the caves so there were a few issues with the train tunnel. One of them. We did we did explore quite a bit of the train tunnel. But it was extremely dangerous, and we weren't prepared for it. You can tell we're not hung art. Hats are okay. That what happened when we went to hell years. We didn't. We thought we were going to be in a guys backyard checking out goblins and things did not quite progress. The way that we anticipated. So we were just flying by the seat of our pants. I mean, what everyone seeing there is it's a very real time paranormal investigation. But that doesn't mean that we haven't been back. Have you? Well, I don't want to spoil season two point. Now, he also wants to know about somebody named Terry wrist. Yeah. So Terry wrist was the guy who sent these mysterious emails with the GPS coordinates talking about how your guy was a he said that Hellier was a symptom, and that's sort of what we've found out in the first season were you able to trace his IP address. He wants to we we were not. So there was a whole there's a whole need actually in the fourth episode where people will see us trying to find David and trying to find Terry. A lot of the Terry stuff didn't make it in. But the their IP addresses were very different and very very different parts of the country. And that's about as far as we got those in the investigation. What did you to expect to find? I think I mean, I think we were hoping that we would find David and kind of be able to kind of put closure to what we already knew about the case. And every time we would again get a little bit of closure. There would be five or six more questions that would pop up at the same time. So it was sort of this real time investigation where we were really just running in the directions that felt the most compelling, and that were really yielding the most information. Were there any times that you thought you were going to come across some body or something like that? I think there were times when we thought that people might come across our. Yeah. Thank God that didn't happen. Yes. Me too. There's still time. We'll see we are. We are shooting the second season right now. Well, this one's got. It's kind of like a cliffhanger, isn't it? Yeah. So without without spoiling. Too much. There's a pretty massive cliffhanger at the end of the first season. And one of the things that we've been telling people is, you know, Hellier the first season of Hellier really is a prologue to a much bigger scope again, you one of the things that the Terry had mentioned in one of his emails is that Hellier was a symptom. And that really is what we found. So the the scope is far broader than this one little tiny coal town now, and that's sort of where we leave off. What is what is the town's say about this area? Well, that's actually a really interesting question. Because the first time that we had gone to Hellier was in two thousand fifteen and we were just dipping our toes in trying to get a feel for if something like this could have actually happened there. Because at that point, you know, we were even more skeptical, and we took the photograph with us, and we showed them to townspeople and there's. Basically one hub in Tellier, and it's the local gas station, and it's the gas station the post office, the the pizza restaurant. Everything is right there and any good paranormal investigator will tell you go to where the hub is. And you just start asking questions, and that's what we did. And you know within half an hour. There were two dozen people who were telling us all of these stories. They were telling us about UFO is the size of football fields that were hovering over the place. And then, you know, our second trip there which was two years later with with Carl and Connor our other investigators. They it was a totally different vibe. I think people were a little more distrusting because we had camera equipment. And we clearly did look like we from the area, and it took us a while to warm people up to get them to tell us about some of these strange things that they were experiencing now you've you've dealt with other paranormal things before both of you have. How would you categorize this case in? In the Appalachian mountains compared to some of these other places. You Ben I mean, this this is way less straightforward Dana, and I come from ghost hunting backgrounds and paranormal internal investigation with dealing with very very go. See stuff poltergeist things like that. This is so much bigger and stranger and weirder. You know, we're not you apologised, and we were dealing with UFO stuff. We were not crypto zoologists, and we were dealing with with strange creatures in strange footprints, much broader and a lot more difficult to track down because it seems to us like the phenomena shifts and shapes depending on the time period. And depending on how people are looking for it. It's very lucid. What is the so-called ESTES method? What is there? So they asked us my food is a method that our friends Carlin Connor who again, our fellow investigators. Actually came up with an ESTES park, Colorado, and it utilizes spirit Bah, which is a pretty common ghost hunting tool a set of really good headphones and something to cover your eyes with and basically what you're doing. Is. You have a person sitting with the spirit boss and the headphones plugged into it. And they're listening to what's coming through on the spirit boss, and then you have the other investigators that are sort of standing around this person asking the questions, and the idea is that the person with headphones on is completely cut off from the rest of their senses. So if the questions that were asking lineup was what the person is saying, then that's something interesting. We can kind of look at that is potentially something else communicating with us. So that's the spirit boxes that the one that George Meeks invented. I think it's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SP seven is the most popular one, and it's been on the market for ten twenty years and pretty defensive and how people use it. I for one am not a fan of them. But after I saw the method performed I was blown away. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the, you know, the the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys? Bring. I mean anything from thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that. We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing and Hallier's they're seeing a lot of the boots on the ground work. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit is the fact that Dana is a fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand and think think a little bit differently. Does the terrible for you. Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has a for me carols always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point in. In time. So it's this really a great tool for me. And especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit. And how you're when we get to points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go in next, and it can tend to be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. So I'm constantly using tarot aren't lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shot the thing this actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was a incredibly talented videography and editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that the crazy synchronicity, and so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look just beautiful used. Wide angle lenses on it cinema cinema cinematographer that you've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate again Hellier is just the start. It's just a prologue. And even in just we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit abstract and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kind of challenge sort of the paranormal television tropes, and the things that have sort of been set in place for many years. And so our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion is really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old mine. So it's it's fairly old. And the other interesting thing is it was a place where the native Americans they would only hunt there. So they thought that the the white guys are crazy for moving in on this land. They might have been right for sure I think that they were and one of the things is a lot of the the old native American legends about the the moon. Knight people that's one of the things that starts to pop up in these areas with the release little diminutive people that lived in case, though, again, you see this thread of these things popping up for hundreds of years and people have just given them different names. Were there many UFO reports about this region? One of the first things that happened again when we first came to L you're backing. Two thousand fifteen was you know, that we had people coming up to us and talking to us about a huge UFO that was the size of a football field. That's floated above the town. And they were really excited that we were going to listen to them telling these stories because they were convinced that the local newspapers said kind of shrug it off as just being a weather balloon, and and that they you know, they had government people coming and telling them. No, this wasn't a UFO. It was it was just some kind of a weather balloon. So that was one of the very first things that we heard specifically from people, and as we continue to do this boots on the ground work, more and more people started to say, you know, there was this other we saw and that happened in the sixties, and it was huge. And no one knew what to do. And it was weird because we just kind of stood there. And then shrug our shoulders. Like, oh, it's like a puzzle, isn't it? I just keep falling into place. Where with Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk. Their websites are linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. We'll take calls with them next hours. We talk about their paranormal investigating what would you recommend to Greg to people who wanna get into this field?.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

13:33 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"Nine seventy four hundred. And welcome back to coast to coast, George with you along with Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk has retired about their documentary year. And of course, the documentary's out I'm getting emails from people who have seen it. Greg. Tastic? I hope they're good. Matter of fact, you couple of questions from one Justin in Dayton, Ohio said why didn't the team actually explore the train tunnel or the caves so there were a few issues with the train tunnel. One of them. We did we did explore quite a bit of the train tunnel. But it was extremely dangerous, and we weren't prepared for it. You can tell we're not hung art. Hats are okay. What happened when we went to Hallier? We didn't. We thought we were going to be in a guys backyard checking out Goblets and things did not quite progress. The way we anticipated. So we were just flying by the seat of our pants. I mean, what everyone seeing there is it's a very real time paranormal investigation. But that doesn't mean that we haven't been back. Have you? Well, I don't want to spoil season two good point. Now, he also wants to know about somebody named Terry wrist. Yeah. So Terry wrist was the guy who sent these mysterious emails with the GPS coordinates talking about how your guy was a he said that Hellier was a symptom, and that's sort of what we've found out in the first season were you able to trace his IP address. He wants we we were not. So there was a whole there's a whole need actually in the fourth episode where people will see us trying to find David and trying to find Terry. A lot of the Terry stuff didn't make it in. But the their IP addresses were very different and very very different parts of the country. And that's about as far as we got with those in the investigation. What did you to expect to find? I think I mean, I think we were hoping that we would find David and kind of be able to kind of put closure to what we already knew about the case. And every time we would again get a little bit of closure. There would be five or six more questions. That would pop the same time. So it was sort of this real time investigation where we were really just running in the directions that felt the most compelling, and that were really yielding the most information were there any times that you thought you were going to come across some body or something like that. I think there were times we thought that people might come across our. Yeah. Thank God didn't happen. Yes. Me too. There's still time. We'll see we are. We are shooting the second season right now. Well, this one's got. It's kind of like a cliffhanger, isn't it? Yeah. So without without spoiling. Too much. There's a pretty massive cliffhanger at the end of of the first season. And one of the things that we've been telling people is know Hellier the first season of Hellier really is a prologue to a much bigger scope again, you one of the things that that Terry had mentioned one of his emails was that Hellier was a symptom. And that really is what we found. So the the scope is far broader than this one little tiny coal town now, and that's sort of where we we've off. What is what is the town say about this area? Well, that's actually a really interesting question. Because the first time that we had gone to Hellier was in two thousand fifteen and we were just dipping our toes in trying to get a feel for if something like this could have actually happened there. Because at that point, you know, we were even more skeptical, and we took the photograph with us, and we show them to townspeople and there's. Basically one hub in in healthier. And it's the local gas station, and it's the gas station the post office the the pizza restaurant. Everything is right there and any good paranormal investigator will tell you go to where the hub is. And you just start asking questions, and that's what we did. And you know within half an hour. There were two dozen people who were telling us all of these stories, and they were telling us about UFO is the size of football fields that were hovering over the place. And then, you know, our second trip there which was two years later with with Carl and Connor our other investigators. They it was a totally different vibe. I think people were a little more distrusting because we had camera equipment. And we clearly did look like we were from the area. And it took us a while to warm people up to get them to tell us about some of these strange things that they were experiencing now you've you've dealt with other paranormal things before both of you have. How would you categorize this case in? In the Appalachian mountains compared to some of these other places. You Ben I mean, this this is way less straightforward Dana. I come from ghost hunting backgrounds and paranormal dealing with very very go. See stuff poltergeists things like that. This is so much bigger and stranger and weirder. You know, we're not you apologised, and we were dealing with UFO stuff. We were not crypto zoologist, and we were dealing with with strange creatures in in strange footprints, much broader and a lot more difficult to track down because it seems to us the phenomena shifts and shapes depending on the time period. And depending on how people are looking for it. It's very lucid what is the so-called ESTES method. What is that? So asked us method is a method that our friends Carlin Connor who again, our fellow investigators. Actually came up with an ESTES park, Colorado, and it utilizes spirit Bah, which is a pretty common ghost hunting tool a set of really good headphones and something to cover your eyes with and basically what you're doing. Is. You have a person sitting with the spirit boss and the headphones plugged into it. And they're listening to what's coming through on the spirit boss, and then you have the and other investigators that are sort of standing around this person asking the questions, and the idea is that the person with headphones on is completely cut off from the rest of their sentences. So if the questions that were asking lineup was what the person is saying, then that's something interesting. We can kind of look at that is potentially something else communicating with us. So that's us. Now, the spirit boxes that the one that George Meeks invented. I think that's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SP seven is the most popular one, and that's been on the market for ten twenty years, and it's pretty defensive and how people use it. I for one am not a fan of them. But after I saw the SS method performed I was blown away. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect to the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys bring on eat anything from you know, your thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that. We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing and Hellier they're seeing a lot of the booth. On the groundwork. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit is the fact that Dana is a fantastic Terrel reader, and okay, she she tends to pull terro on most. Every investigation we ever go on because regardless of what you think about it kind of makes you take stock of the situation at hand in think think a little bit differently. Does the Tero for you? Dana have you change events or the way that you were going to do something. I think absolutely. It has a for me carols always in this really great tool for paranormal investigation because it gives you insight into something that maybe you don't necessarily have quite on the surface at that point in time. So this really a great tool for me, and especially throughout the investigation, and I use it quite a bit and Hallier we get two points where we're sort of just looking at each other going what direction? Do we go in next, and it can tend to? Be this really great conduit for kind of pointing us in the right direction. So I'm constantly using tarot. Our investigation lots of compliments on the videography of the documentary who shot the thing this actually, the the reason the whole project happened was because of our friend Karl Pfeiffer was incredibly talented videographer editor he's the guy who he heard me talking about the case. And as I was talking about the case, he was he was listening, and he watched our our website automatically random tweets something about the case that a crazy synchronicity. And so he he really pushed in product for it. And he made it look just beautiful used wide angle lenses on it, cinnamon cinnamon cinematographer that you've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. I. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate. Again, Hellier is just the start is just a prologue. And even just you know, we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit abstract and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kinda challenge sort of the I turn on the television tropes, and the things that have been set in place for many years. And so our our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion is really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old mine. So it's it's fairly old. And the other interesting thing is it was a place where the native Americans they would only hunt there. So they thought that the the white guys are crazy for moving in on this land. They might have been right for sure I think that they were and one of the things is a lot of the the old native American legends about the moon. Knight people that's one of the things that starts to pop up in these areas with these really little community of people that lived in caves again, you see this thread of these things popping up for hundreds of years and people have just given them different names. Were there many UA for reports about this region? One of the first things that happened again when we first came to hell you're back in. Two thousand fifteen was that we had people coming up to us and talking to us about a huge UFO that was the size of a football field that floated above the town, and they were really excited that we were going to listen to them telling these stories because they were convinced that the local newspapers said kind of shrug it off as just being a weather balloon, and and that they they had government people coming and telling them, no this wasn't a UFO. It was it was just some kind of a weather balloon. So that was one of the very first things that we heard specifically from people in house, and as we continue to do this boots on the ground work, more and more people started to say, you know, there was this other we saw and that happened in the sixties, and it was huge. And no one knew what to do. And it was weird because we just kind of stood there. And then shrug our shoulders. It's like, oh, it's like a puzzle. Isn't it for these pieces? Just keep falling into place. Where what's Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk? Their websites are linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. We'll take calls with them next hours. We talk about their paranormal investigating what would you recommend to Greg to people who wanna get into this field?.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

08:12 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon itself was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the date. We got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you were so close, right? Well, that's an interesting thing. We he sent us a photograph of GPS coordinates and those GPS coordinates went to round mountain. Which was a place. We had been just months before person whoever. This is new where we were what we were looking into. Because we were there initially. We were there to try and find this entrance to a cave. Arthur strange lights on Brown mountain. The Brown mountain lights. They still don't quite exactly know how they've happened. But there are these weird wispy little little green lights that come up out of the mountains and float around and they're not plasma balls. Are they they aren't sure they're not quite sure the one interesting thing is the mountains made out of courts. So they think maybe it could be some expanding and contrasting that's making things light up and shoot sparks. Okay. Back to Mothman. So this guy who went by Terry risk. The first thing I did was I start to look around and see who is this person who who uses the student and the only reference that I could find to this. This name was in a very obscure book that came out in the nineties called secret cipher of the U finance was by Alan greenfield. And it's a book about using magic rituals to contact extraterrestrials. Very fringe stuff. Nothing that I was really into at the time and in the very back there. There's an interview between Allen and this man using the student him carry wrist. In it. This man talks about using the secret cipher in order to figure out where injured cold lived and in this. He actually uses a secret cipher to to use the words, ink and black which actually meant injured cold. And in the second Email that we got from this guy who called himself, Terry wrist, possibly the same guy. He said that the ink and black feel isolated. Well, one of the things that Terry talks about in this this interview with Alan is that injured cold had been on the run and was hiding and that the whole Mothman flap was really a distress signal very weird stuff. But in an immediate tangible link to the Mothman case and injured cold dramatic. It really is and Dana in terms of your role here as a witch. Do you use that in the investigation? Absolutely. For me. I've always taken magic and utilize with paranormal investigation. So I'm constantly, you know, utilize tarot or creating a communication alters. And it kind of just another layer that we can tap into. And we we're investigating. So it's always been a really positive thing for me and really kind of been what drives my style of investigating. I guess as you were investigating this particular case, did you know, what you were going after or did it just happen. I think I think we thought we knew what we were going after. Probably the best way to you hoped. You knew exactly yes, exactly we hoped. We knew what we were going after. And really every time. We thought we knew what was happening it would sort of pivot and acclimated self and change. So we kind of just went with it. And we continue to investigate it the way that it kind of wanted to be investigated. We're with Dana Matthews, and Greg Newkirk is we're talking about their work hell year, which is a documentary. They are paranormal investigators where did these goblins pop up from? Well, the goblins we started using the term goblins because these creatures that David described we're so similar to what happened in hopkinsville or Kelly Kentucky back in nineteen fifty five where the Sutton farmhouse was attacked by these strange creatures from outer space. It was a really famous case. There's there's a dozen a dozen witnesses. They've never gone back on. On their story. So the the parallels to what was happening with this case with David. They were so close that. We just started saying, well, these are both in Kentucky. Let's just we'll call them goblins because it seems like the goblins have returned were the dangerous evil. Well, the interesting thing is David never said, they did anything terrible. Even even in the hopkinsville case from the fifties. The one last relative who still talks about it is is Geraldine who is the daughter of lucky Sutton who actually shot at these creatures. She even said one of the things that people don't know about that case is they they approached with their hands up. So they were they were coming peacefully, but they still shot at them. David his story. They were they were more mischievous than anything. They were taking they were tapping on his kids windows. They were rummaging through his shed. He was finding their stuff around the edge. The edge of the the mine. They took a one of the weirder details they took a wreath like Christmas wreath and shoved it in his mailbox the only thing they did that. I think could be construed as as as not very nice as they took his dog. And that they took him down into the mine or who knows what did the dog ever come back. Oh, no. As far as I know. That's that's that's bizarre. All by itself. What makes this area such a hot spot for paranormal activity? It's sort of this perfect place. And and one thing that we have been noticing quite a bit as you know, as far as this phenomenon is kind of. What we've been noticing is basically there are a lot of similar things. So hell you're seems to be the perfect spot for this kind of activity. It's on a border. It's an isolated town. It is the perfect kind of place for this sort of dominant happen and people wouldn't necessarily take people seriously because of the area. What are the things that we keep hearing is? There are plenty of places for this type of thing to hide we've been getting now that Houllier's out for a week. We've been getting locals who've been emailing us saying, you know, my grandmother told me don't ever follow anything that looks like a child into the cave because they're not and they were deadly serious about this trickster. Oh, there there's tons of cases of these types of things, and they they're just better hiding, I mean, even things like, you know, point pleasant West Virginia is the flap happened there. There's something about the Appalachia's and something about the mammoth cave system in particular, hold on for a second. Greg. We'll come back and talk more with you and Dana about this very strange story, and then some more.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

01:34 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to hell earlier, we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to keel back layers of that onion, we'd notice that this was a bigger phenomena. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon self was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

14:25 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Unexplained in Hello, Greg. Good to have you with us pleasure to be here. George. Thanks for having us with our old colleague Dave Schrader a couple years ago. Weren't you? Both of you or just yeah. Good guy, your friend. So let's talk about the paranormal, and I'll I'll talk to you individually for a while. Then just both of you jump in anytime you want, but Greg how did you get started in this? Well, dana. I quite literally grew up investigating the paranormal we've been doing it for twenty years. Driving around at night listening to coast to coast on our journeys into haunted houses as kids. And then we started to get more serious about it and about three years ago. We said, well, let's give this a crack. Let's see if we can do this full-time, and we launched the traveling museum of the paranormal and the occult and now we pretty much spend eight nine months out of the year on the road, traveling from coast to coast. Presenting haunted objects collecting, haunted objects, helping people with any kind of paranormal problem investigating pretty much anything you name it. Do you go all over the country? Help get literally host coast California to main Florida all over now. What do you drive a traveling museum to me sounds like you pick up something in this huge trucker van? What do you? What do you have believe it or not it is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch which is. I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. But really, it's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find in nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people. There's good pedia people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less scared of the idea of the the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. And that's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've. Done greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with. Quite a few times. You know, there's things that I think you'll find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens at least a few times a year. You know, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from the four because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to two items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens a lot of times does there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of a I guess for lack of a better word, a cloud and times of high emotion times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload into that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a building is the biggest hotted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg you've put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property, specifically around mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth system in in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as Dobbins sometimes people will call them hollered problems. Sometimes they would have completely different kinds of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this math. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general, well where we were? Researching actually the name of of the documentaries. The name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called Hellier Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name. It's really interesting because one of the things that we just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who like they knew was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft, these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started looking at it the same way, and you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial and he desperately wanted us to come and documentary. This. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up is us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings, HUD, going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think they just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean we. We initially were very skeptical of what was happening to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes. We try to remain to skeptical as possible because there is a lot of people out there who is a potentially be putting on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hell, you're I've kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to a location it. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to. The five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. Yeah. Are they're five different parts of the first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And and it's just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to peel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon self was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Terry wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the day. We got another Email that said, why did you stop when you were so close was he right? Well, that's an interesting thing. We he sent us a photograph of GPS coordinates and those GPS coordinates went to round mountain. Which was a place. We had been just months before person whoever. This is new where we were what we were looking into. Because we were there initially. We were there to try and find this entrance to a cave aren't there? Strange lights on Brown mountain. The Brown mountain lights. They still don't quite exactly know how they've happened. But there these weird wispy little little green lights that come up out of the mountains and float around and they're not plasma balls. Are they they aren't sure they're not quite sure the one interesting thing is the mountains made out, of course. So they think maybe it could be some expanding and contrasting that's making things light up and shoot sparks, okay? Now back to Mothman. So this guy who went by Terry risk. The first thing I did was I started to look around and see who is this person who's who uses the student and the only reference that I could find to this. This name was in a very obscure book that came out in the nineties called secret cipher of the youth enough. It was by Alan greenfield. And it's a book about using magic rituals to contact extraterrestrials. Very fringe stuff. Nothing that I was really into at the time and in the very back there. There's an interview between Allen and this man using the student him carry wrist in it this man talks about using the secret cipher in order to figure out where injured cold lived and in this. He actually uses a secret cipher to to use the words, ink and black which actually meant injured cold in in the second Email that we got from this guy who called himself, Terry wrist, possibly the same guy. He said that the ink and black is feel isolated. Well, one of the things that Terry talks about in this this interview with Alan is that injured cold had been on the run and with hiding and that the whole Mothman flap was really a distress signal very weird stuff. But in an immediate tangible link to the Mothman case and injured cold dramatic. It really is and Dana in terms of your. Or role here as a witch? Do you use that in the investigation? Absolutely. For me. I've always taken magic and utilize it with paranormal investigation. So I'm constantly, you know, utilize tarot or creating a communication alters. And it kind of just another layer that we can tap into and we're investigating. So it's always been a really positive thing for me and really kind of been what drives my style of investigating. I guess as you were investigating this particular case, did you know, what you were going after or did it just happen..

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

13:23 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Of the explained in hell, Greg good to have you with us pleasure to be here. George thanks for having. If you will with our old colleague Dave Schrader a couple of years ago. Weren't you? Both of you just. Yeah. Good guy, dear friend, so let's talk about the paranormal, and I I'll I'll talk to you individually for wild. And just both of you jump in anytime you want, but Greg how did you get started in this? Well, Dana, and I quite literally grew up investigating the paranormal we've been doing it for twenty years driving around at night listening to coast to coast on our journeys into haunted houses kids, and then we started to get more serious about it and about three years ago. We said, well, let's give this a crack. Let's see if we can do this full-time, and we launched the traveling museum of the paranormal and the occult and now we pretty much spend eight nine months out of the year on the road. Traveling. From those two coasts presenting haunted. Objects collecting, haunted objects, helping people with any kind of paranormal problem investigating pretty much anything you. Do you go all over the country? Okay. Literally coast to coast, California to main Florida all over what? Now, what do you drive mean? Traveling museum to me sounds like you pick up something in this huge trucker van what do you? What do you have believe it or not it is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? I which is I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. But really, it's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find a nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think it's like people there's good people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah. Absolutely. There can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people? Fascinated by all this. Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less scared of the idea of the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with. Quite a few times. There's things that I think you find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens, I at least a few times a year, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from a floor because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. Do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens a lot times there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exist somewhere in some kind of I guess for lack of a better word, cloud and times of high emotion times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called healthier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who was experiencing some strange activity on his property, specifically around mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system and in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as goblins sometimes people will call them holler goblins. Sometimes they would have completely different kind of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening. We're all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that leads you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, we're we were researching actually the name of of the documentaries. The name of the town where this. Case took place Hellier Kentucky. They have account called Hellier Kentucky is a town called Hellier quite the name, really interesting. Because one of the things that we had just now doubt is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who like they were saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft of these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started looking at it the same way, and you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial and he desperately. Wanted us to come and document this. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard him and he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up is us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think they just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was hap-. Opening into the state. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes, we try to remain as possible because there is a lot of people out there who potentially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hell you're kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to a location it. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange there. Dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place. It was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. Yeah. There are there. Five different parts of the first part of the documentary is basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And and it just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. More you happy with the way it ended up. Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to kill back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again is because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon itself was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people. And now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people. Are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later today, we got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you're so close? Was he right? Well, that's an interesting thing. We he sent us a photograph of GPS coordinates, and those GPS coordinates went to Brown mountain, which was the place. We had been just months before person whoever. This is new where we were what we were looking into. Because we were there initially. We were there to try and find this entrance to a cave. Arthur strange lights on Brown mountain Zeph samples. The Brown mountain lights. They still don't quite exactly know how they've happened. But there are these weird wispy little little green lights that come up out of the mountains and float around and they're not plasma balls. Are they they aren't sure they're not quite sure the one interesting thing is the mountains of courts. So they think maybe it could be some expanding and contrasting that's making things light up and shoot sparks, okay? Now back to Mothman. So this guy who went by Terry risk. The first thing I did was I started to look around and see who is this person who's who uses the student and the only reference that I could find to this. This name was in a very obscure book that came out in the nineties called secret cipher of the finance was by Alan greenfield. And it's a book about using magic rituals to contact extraterrestrials. Very fringe stuff. Nothing that I was really into at the time. And in the very back. There is an interview between Allen in this man using the pseudonym carry wrist in it. This man talks about using the secret cipher in order to figure out where injured cold lift and in this. He actually uses the secret cipher to to use the words, ink and black which actually meant injured cold. And in the second Email that we got from this guy who called himself, Terry wrist, possibly the same guy. He said that the ink and black is still isolated. Well, one of the things that Terry talks about in this this interview with Alan is that injured cold had been on the run and with hiding and that the whole Mothman flap was really a distress signal very weird stuff. But in an immediate tangible link to the Mothman case and injured cold, it's dramatic. I it really is and Dana in terms of your role here as a witch. Do you use that in the investigation? Absolutely. For me. I've always taking. Magic and utilized it with paranormal investigation. So I'm constantly, you know, you tarot or creating a communication alters. And it kind of just another layer that we can tap into when we're investigating. So it's always been a really positive thing for me and really kind of been what drives my style investigating. I guess as you were investigating this particular case, did you know, what you were going after or did it just happen..

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

09:44 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"It is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? I enjoy is. I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. It really. It's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find a nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people there's good people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less. Scared of the idea of the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with. Quite a few times. There's things that I think you'll find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens I at least a few times a year. You know, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from a floor because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens. A lotta times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of a I guess for lack of a better word, a cloud and times of high motion times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as Dobelin sometimes people who call them holler. Sometimes they would have completely different kind of mocal names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, we're we were researching actually the name of of the documentary is the name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called Hellier Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name. It's really interesting because one of the things that we just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who they knew was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft, these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started look. Looking at it the same way. And you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial, and he desperately wanted us to come and document this. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think. They just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was happening and even to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes, we try to remain discuss possible. Because there is a lot of people out there potentially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hel- your I've kind of described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to. Location. It. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. There are they're five different parts. The first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And it's just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to peel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon itself was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

11:21 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"Of the unexplained in Hello, Greg. Good to have you with us pleasure to be here. George thanks for having him with our old colleague Dave Schrader a couple of years ago. Weren't you? Both of you or just. Yeah. You good guy, your friend. So let's talk about the paranormal, and I'll I'll talk to you individually for a while. Then just both of you jump in anytime you want, but Greg how did you get started in this? Well, David, I quite literally grew up investigating the paranormal we've been doing it for twenty years driving around at night listening to coast to coast on our journeys into haunted houses as kids. And then we started to get more serious about it and about three years ago. We said, well, let's give this a crack. Let's see if we can do this full-time, and we launched the traveling museum of the paranormal and the occult and now we pretty much spend eight nine months out of the year on the road traveling. From coast to coast presenting haunted, objects collecting, haunted objects, helping people with any kind of paranormal problem designating pretty much anything you name it. Do you go all over the country help it literally coast to coast California to main Florida all over now. What do you drive a traveling museum to me sounds like you pick up something in this huge trucker van what do you? What do you have believe it or not it is a Volkswagen mini van? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? Is. I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. It really. It's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find in nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people there's good people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less. Scared of the idea of the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with quite a few times. You know, there's things that I think you'll find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens, I at least a few times a year, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that have been stolen from a few years before because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to two items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens a lot of times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of I guess for for lack of a better word, cloud and times of high emotion times of. Stress and trauma. They can almost make a an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? While we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property, specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as goblins sometimes people. Call them holler goblins sometimes they would have completely different kind of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, we're we were researching actually the name of of the documentary is the name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky. They have account called Hellier Kentucky is a town called Hellier quite the name, really interesting. Because one of the things that we had just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who they knew was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft of these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started look. Looking at it the same way. And you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial, and he desperately wanted us to come and document this. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up. His us. Tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think. They just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was happening even to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as investigation goes. We try to remain as possible because there is a lot of people out there who substantially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hell, you're I've kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to. Location. It. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary, right? Yes. Yeah. There are they're five different parts of the first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And and it's just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to hell earlier, we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to keel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon itself was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the day, we got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you were so close was he right? Well, that's an interesting thing. We.

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"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

11:16 min | 2 years ago

"karl pfeiffer" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"George thanks for having with our old colleague Dave Schrader a couple years ago. Weren't you? Both of you or just yeah. Good guy, your friend. So let's talk about the paranormal, and I'll talk to you individually for a while than just both of you jump in anytime you want, but Greg how did you get started in this? Well, dana. I quite literally grew up investigating the paranormal we've been doing it for twenty years. Driving around at night listening to coast to coast on our journeys into haunted houses if kids and then we started to get more serious about it and about three years ago. We said, well, let's give this a crack. Let's see if we can do this full-time, and we launched the traveling museum of the paranormal and the occult and now we pretty much spend eight nine months out of the year on the road, traveling from home. Coast presenting haunted, objects collecting, haunted objects, helping people with any kind of paranormal problem designating pretty much anything you name it. Do you go all over the country help you get literally host coast, California to main Florida all over now. What do you drive? I mean, a traveling museum to me sounds like you pick up something in this huge trucker van what do you? What do you have believe it or not it is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? Is. I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. But really, it's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find in nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people there's good pedia people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches and Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less. Scared of the idea of the the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with quite a few times. You know, there's things that I think you'll find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens I at least a few times a year. You know, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from us four because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens a lot of times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exist somewhere in some kind of I guess for lack of a better word, a cloud and times of high emotion times of. Stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system in around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as goblins sometimes people will call them holler goblins. Sometimes they would have completely different kind of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, we're we were researching actually the name of of the documentaries. The name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called hell your Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name, really interesting. Because one of the things that we just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft, these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started look. Looking at it the same way. And you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial, and he desperately wanted us to come and document this. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up is us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar these similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think. They just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was happening to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes. We try to remain skeptical as possible because there is a lot of people out there who potentially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange or any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hell, you're I've kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to. Location. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange there. Dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. Yeah. There are they're five different parts. The first part of the documentary is basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And and it just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to keel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronous cities that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon self was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Terry wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones that I have something for you one week. And then a week later to the day, we got another E mail that said, why did you stop when you were so close was he right? Well, that's an interesting thing..

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