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"karina longworth" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"Is brought to you by those who drink it mona. Okay only the good die young right. Al may not be young anymore but he has no hint interest in hanging around for too long. It take seventy no. No i mean work not die. You gonna take seventy. Are you out of your mind. I've always said you're almost fifty two years. You would sign up for seventy right now. I wouldn't sign up for it but if someone passes at seventy you say that's not a guy young they didn't. I'd say young young. That's the dying young. When my god my god the woman's on a lobster boat still one hundred one united states that but there's a story about her because it's so unique yes but becoming more and more kami. I'm not interested in people living into their hundreds. Nah gimme seventy five. Say now i jerry. If i pass it sixty nine. I have this on record. I won't big balloons. That just say sixty nine and you're born in sixty nine. He was born in sixty. Six died at sixty nine sixteen seventeen years away. Yeah and you never was exceed monitoring. That's true with you. He was setting that up from a mile away. The you were born in like you were probably like three steps ahead on that. No that was fleet. That last little gem reuss leaks. Wow i never would've guessed that chris. Thank you very much back tomorrow. Sarah beer tomorrow. Thanks very much. It curiosity stream has thousands of documentary films and shows available on demand on any device where the net flicks for nerds the hulu for history buffs the disney plus for the scientists in us. There sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. Stream is the one you definitely need if you're the type to nature dock chill if you're an armchair astronaut if you prefer physics to psychics or perhaps you know precocious paleontologist go to curiosity stream dot com to learn more and sign up today. Some are only savings await at your local hyundai dealer. Where you go from. There is up to you. 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Power nitro plus premium gasoline full terms and conditions if you rewards reward the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo the radio station and the aussie company jerry. Very big digital logic. All honey i've heard a lot about digital digital digital things videos that you do digital platforms that sort of thing. Well i just started seeing a couple things of the new new digital thing people are doing. It's called the milk crate. Challe i've seen this and people try to climb up them and they almost break their face. Yes yes it what it is. Is you stack up these milk. Crates almost like a stair like stairway at to get to the top and then back down the other side does not go well for most people. But you're also supposed to do something while you're walking up the crate like the original one. I think the guy was rolling. Dooby jerry okay. And i saw one where a guy walked up to the top had his friends hand him some weight and he did like some bicep curls and then back then. You've seen successful. I have seen. I've seen all the bad ones then. I saw one where a guy got to the peak of the milk crate and somebody in the crowd went over and kicked the milk crates. And so we got to do something like that. If i'm not going to be on the digital i'll pass on that who'd you gave me the tasers for yes and i contemplated Having my older son and my wife takes me for video just a little be thought it would be funny But ultimately decided not. because i don't know what it's going to be right so pass it Like if you taste like in the leg it'll knock your leg like the feeling of your leg and then you go down and you're supposed to be able to escape you know i'm good. I'm i'll pass so this milk crate challenge. You don't want to do it wrong. Get the milk crates in for tomorrow. You wanna try it. Well i just want to get all of the shows to do something with the milk challenge. Were you walk up it. I don't know what we each do heavy people else. But boomers athletic. He probably has good balance. I think it's all about balance with the milk crates. And plus you're doing something else right you will that up and doing something will be a good one because we're a sports station all right. Walk up get to the top and have a catch old. Throw a baseball to someone who's gonna throw it back to you and then you walk down or like boomer like you walk up to the top. He's in the military hardware is inaugural where he knows how to dog you off the milk crate. Bowie would not go. Yeah i'm. I'm pretty sure i'm going to pass on that one. I am going to start looking though on social media for more these. Because i do like these. They are kind of cool. Create challenge jerry. Oh i got to milk braids at home if you wanna borrow them. We need us up a whole bunch. We need to stack them then. United said i can help start because i've got to and you have to stack them wide enough to select. They have some privacy. Like forty of them. Don't we have in the or at least one in the well now. We got three or four. I'll do that. i'll do. I'll stand on two milk crates. Milk crate challenge. You're a champion champion jerry. And the morning show with boomer asya said in gregg giannotti boomer and geo like every bellies hanging over your peanut though. Good not going to be a good luck. If it looks like your penis is in the langen. Hey well trim it up. Curiosity stream has thousands of documentary. Films shows available on demand on any device where the net flicks for nerds the hulu for history buffs the disney plus for the scientists in us there sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. 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"karina longworth" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"Any reason why he's just an off doesn't say why he's leaving why he's moving but he's going to leave a lot of his memorabilia in the home very whomever buys. That house is going to get his. He said quote. I have left behind my trophy case. Now i imagine is an expensive home. Year was thing i would think so. Well amid didn't make a ton of money back then. But i'm sure he's made money since at some point. Yeah i wonder if the people going through it saw the memory and knew it was his home. I would love that. I have left behind trophy case and in autographed ball for the next owner. What would you leave behind for the next owner of the con- house boring beer cans in the fridge The tape of his nine one one. Call my dog. no you're not leaving. The dog behind right couldn't wait my. Please take care of her. She loves this terrible. Yes that's cool. I would love to like by. Someone's house i leave me memorabilia. Wall that memorabilia. Berthelot money to yeah. I'd immediately hit send that right up on ebay high. Just moving into bill russell's house. I have no real use for these tropes. Make me an offer. He put up the bidding to start at one hundred bucks. Make me an offer for bill. Russell's estate neat. I suppose is cool. Did see though. I think yeah. It's gotta be the same story where he said he hopes they enjoy everything for the next fifty years in the home. Something like yes. So in his case he's not planning on selling. It are not in another washington area. Home i just saw somebody purchased kirk cobain's home where he shot himself. Has that not been it. Had for a long time. Ben like Old jerry feet whimsey now. Now that's the parkers. Yeah mine goes off four so this is my parking lot. I try and put mine. And when i think we're gonna break. Oh you can do it in advance at nine. Oh four oh. I'm sorry. I thought you meant you. Did it. like in advance of the nine o'clock coming. No nine four. What's worse i was talking about. Our alarm clocks. Remain chris calling this. Probably this clock situation. Jerry and kurt cobain. So-someone purchased the kurt cobain home where he Shot himself. But i think he shot himself in the greenhouse which is no longer on the property. Did but i'd be. I would not be interested in purchasing a home where someone passed but if he didn't do it in the home but he did it on the premises. Yeah no i get it. Does i go for perhaps hostile. For premium. Rate went for a premium jerry. I don't call 'cause granola ever live at. Graceland was immediately turned into not immediately but they turned into a museum. Yes soon after. Elvis died in on bathroom. Yes yes people are still going. The grace i would. I would like to go. i would go. Have you ever been there. No what am. I gonna look at all his stuff. The museum is elvis's toothbrush. You know it's we went to the hall of fame. I guess it's four or five years ago. I remember the first hour really was it was a blast and it was really cool and you're walking through and after a while the memorabilia is what it is i would think graceland is i. Don't i mean. I've never been there but i don't think that's like the hall of famer would take you six hours to go night. Doesn't i've been there been think that would be a really cool thing to say. You went through graceland yet. Giants played the then the tennessee oilers and they were playing in memphis before they moved to nancy. You're like i'm gonna go hit up graceland. Yeah me and the other members of the giants radio group. Paul dottino carl infantino. The mayor quarrel love carl. I imagine they have a huge store where you could purchase all sorts of is there was a gift shop giving no doubt i. I would like to go there. That's one place that thing would be neat to see even if it is. You know we'll depressing when you why so many years. Now we're celebrating the elvis. But still i would go. There's a story about bruce springsteen that he and stevens zandt wrote the song arrested that was trying to be in his driveway to a look at them and called snack. No that was me to. I know you but i did a similar thing. Bruce springsteen and stephen zandt in the late seventies the bruce had wrote the song fire and he wanted to give it to elvis. To record and nate tried to jump the fence at graceland to get it to elvis. Now this is before he was a star This was seventy eight. So bruce was still star but he wasn't like seventy eight. he wasn't a star. He was the star but he couldn't get to elvis. Guess he wasn't at elvis level yet. No i get that. But i would smile. I would think the cover of time magazine in seventy five right. I would think someone in his camp would be able to get at that. Maybe they were drinking. They're really. Let's jump the fence here by great idea. Defense shot down with my god. Yeah or hump the defense we have said once i. Let's take a brave when we come back. We've got a lot more. Got a bunch on the sheet. I've even gotten is that right His among other things yes some some sports some not one. Though that i talked about earlier teased earlier about your former boss. David lee raw okay. Curiosity stream has thousands of documentary films and shows available on demand on any device where the net flicks for nerds the hulu for history buffs the disney plus scientists in us there sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. Stream is the one you definitely need. If you're the type of nature dock and chill if you're an armchair astronaut if you prefer physics to psychics or perhaps you know a precocious paleontologist go to curiosity stream dot com to learn more and sign up today. Don't doubt this is one of old hollywood's wildest scandals a story about my grandparents film producer welterweight singer and actress. 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"karina longworth" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"The little league team gets all buy them around the young kids. Hey at the at the end of the day a good day for day number one too. I'm just happy. I'm not the guy who missed it right because that i would have never live down. And all my group chat messages with the baseball cards guys and a fantasy football So i'm just happy. I didn't miss it well. Frank congratulated good stuff. They aren't boys during the afternoon policy at four o'clock i'd sorry to cut you off there. I thought we were done anyhow. So it's pretty cool. You got your plan now so you go home. Take a nap. Yeah have some lunch. Take a nap. Go to the beach bar for an hour. Take some pictures with people post photos on social media still back in the condo by five thirty. That's true. I think you can do that. Might be able to do that. You can swing make any You know. I don't want to confirm anything. Jerry you know it will raise a lot of money for is sold. The ball got a lot amount. A lot of money right. The right thing you fell ask as can have this ball stop. They must support asbury park little league by donating all of the money when we come back children away that al is going to make a lot of money in the way really wants to make money interesting. Curiosity stream has thousands of documentary films and shows available on demand on any device where the net flicks for nerds the hulu for history buffs the disney plus for the scientists in us. There sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. Stream is the one you definitely need if you're the type of nature docking chill if you're an armchair astronaut if you prefer physics to psychics or perhaps you know a precocious paleontologist go to curiosity stream dot com to learn more and sign up today. Don't doubt this is one of old hollywood's wildest scandal a story about my grandparents film producer welterweight singer and actress. Joan bennett. i'm vanessa hope and i'm karina longworth together. With vanity fair and cadence thirteen will tell untold story. A film nar played out in real life. Introducing love is a crime tune in at listen dot vanity fair dot com slash. Love is a crime. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Some are only savings await at your local hyundai dealer where you go from there. It's up to you huge savings new vehicles arriving daily. And of course. America's best warranty get in to get away with it all at the hyundai getaway sales event. Secure your twenty twenty one and not or launch today for zero percents. Apr for sixty months. Plus zero payments for ninety days. See your hyundai dealer now. During the holiday getaway sales event offers end september. Sixth two thousand twenty one five six two three one four four six three for terms and details the morning show with boomer esiason and greg hardy boomer and geo don't doubt this is one of old hollywood's wildest scandals a story about my grandparents film producer. Walter ranger an actress. Joan bennett. I'm vanessa hope. And i'm karina longworth together with vanity fair and cadence thirteen will tell this untold story a film you're played out in real life. Introducing love is a crime tune in at listen dot vanity fair dot com slash. Love is a crime. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Curiosity stream has thousands of documentary films and shows available on demand on device where the net flicks for nerds hulu for history buffs the disney plus for the scientists in us there sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. Stream is the one you definitely need. If you're the type to nature dock and chill if you're an armchair astronaut if you prefer physics to psychics or perhaps you know a precocious paleontologist go to curiosity stream dot com to learn more and sign up today. Shell we know from the time you get up to the time you wrap up. There's a lot of meet. Ups eat ups and hurry up so come to shell and get three things done at once. Fill up with shell. V power nitro plus to help. Keep your engine running like new. Save up with the fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas again and snack up with instal rewards to save even more at the pump. Make the most of the stop you need to make with shell engines continue so you shall be natural plus premium gasoline c. full terms and conditions fuel rewards..
"karina longworth" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"A goff anyway. Might not at this point first of all. It's a football sunday. that's a problem too. It's a sunday night. That's a problem and three. I don't. I don't know i'm not going to see corn there to like jerry when i go to concerts. I like the marsh. what what. It was pat benetton. Would you go know what would it take to get you to the right now. Prior to the pandemic. You're going to concert i know but the the la- the last few times i went to art center. You have to park so far away. One if you don't pay for the the That parking right parking and if you go all the way up the path of fifty bucks. It's not that we went. I told you we went to see bush bush. We saw bush who then live live and there was one other band. I'm completely blanking was live. I and ornate smashing pumpkins wasn't them wasn't them and we thought alley alarms going off. This is got to turn the light off for whimsey. So i thought i really thought bush was gonna be the headliner at the end. And that's why i wanted. I like live. But i love bush. I wanted to see bush. That's what i was looking for a field. They go for. I'll have anyway and so we were tailgating in that ridiculous parking lot. Yes i did not have been there in so long. I didn't realize how long of a walk against a long walk so we here. In the in the distance we heard. I think glycerine. I think it was the first time they opened with some. That was but very familiar. Song might gotta go. Yeah we missed almost the whole concert. Yup don't because it took us. I would say half hour goes to solid twenty minutes on a walk up there and you've got to walk by all those losers carrying their chairs. I'm endorsing kinda guy. jerry. I'm older more we we'd seats to. Yeah but we relate. Real quick ahmed in woodside. What's up i'm ed. Hey what's going on man morning. I love you guys but you can. You think of a about nine and snails. Huge trigger is man old. How old is old first of all we got a. He's an old dude now. Other factor is he's healthier helping now almost any other. The thing is that what he does is When they go out on tour he lets his bad and party like So there you know And their private bus. Yes and then. He like on a separate bus just chilling. You know with meditating. Boys doing wine transcendental meditation. How old is he. He's fifty six. Okay that's older. I'm not gonna say old older. They do have some cool songs. But i bet you like. I don't know a lot of nine inch nails. Only know what was played on k rock around here back in the nineties and two thousands but I bet you there's a toma songs. I have no idea what's going on. Yes but i do think there would also be a good handful that you do that. You would be into but you might be bored. The rest of the time is what i wanna hear jerry. I hurt myself today. They might open or close with us to see if i feel or is that adding yourself jerry's at the same band. I wanna yup bleep. You like an animal. Yeah that's jerry was about cutting yourself just to feel emotions to feel if you could feel the pain cutting yourself. That's a thing. Teenagers do it. Yes i'm aware. That's a wild and scary brain. Do crazy. Things to us endeavour emotions. Yes cherry more on music before we take a break. Sal and jackson talked to me. What's up sal. Italic gordon jerry. I met you at that bush in live concert. Who is the who's the third band. I'll i don't remember but we we spoke and i told you i had. I was doing a baseball talk. Show f- remember me baseball. Talk shows jerry. This you should be fair. Sal i did have quite a few drinks that. Oh i'm not talking about the maroon. Five concert i worked at pnc yet. Because i wanted to see them there. That's right they get the guests and employees have to show proof of vaccination or take the covert test forty hours before show that i do know i did hear that. Okay so you really don't remember that third band. Nah i don't wanna thank you guys for the inspiration for us What we do on on our podcast. See this jerry. Year inspiring young podcast. You are because you have. Most people have one podcast. You have to thank you very much. Let's this guy real quick just to do with what we talked about earlier with the door. Swinging the call timeout out swinging and hitting home idea what to do to you. Tommy tommy. What's up guys doing. Yeah i just want to let you know so. I had the under eight and a half in that yankee game when they know door hit a home run when he when they gave him time out and when they gave him time out. I was so happy because it would have been a three run home. Run i think would have been eight one. And i have the under eight and a half and then i think velazquez at a solo shot late but it was still the under eight and a half. So they'll hit pretty pretty awesome. You lucked out with that time out. Hugely the yankee fan happy happy. They won but also happy. I want some money to give him the time out. Right very cool man. We'll good for you man. that's awesome. Thank you tommy. I'm a little disappointed in outdoor. He hasn't punched one guy in the face since he's come here that's not i'm told stone. Temple pilots was the third band. I must have missed that one to know you did. That was not a tumbled pile of the children. I didn't think so either. But that's what i'm being told by many different people. It was july of twenty twenty. No killing twenty twenty twenty nineteen maybe twenty nineteen. Jay had been twenty nineteen. And i'm trying to find it. I'm being told andrew at cbs. Sports network is telling us it was stone temple pie and it might have been. I do not remember. That was our lady peace. he's wrong he's not s. teepee. I wanted to see bush. That's what i was looking for. Yeah i did. And i missed. I missed our lady. Peace and i missed the bush boy all of the live portion which was great. But i wanted to see davin rosedale moore one of the great howard. Stern's song parodies that Fred did he did bush's glycerin. Yeah but he did it about gary's bed breath that he did a song called listerine is good one then. It was a whole song to the hawk listerine as gary needs list. And that's your guy bad thing you. Hey the i hate bad breath. Jerry don't doubt old hollywood's wildest scandals a story about my grandparents film producer welterweight injure an actress. Joan bennett. i'm vanessa hope and i'm karina longworth together with vanity fair and cadence thirteen will tell this untold story a film-noir played out in real life. Introducing love is a crime tune in at listen dot vanity fair dot com slash. Love is a crime. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Curiosity stream has thousands of documentary films and shows available on demand on any device where the net flicks for nerds the hulu for history buffs the disney plus for the scientists in us. There sure are a lot of streaming services. Aren't there curiosity. Stream is the one you definitely need if you're the type to nature dock and chill if you're an armchair astronaut if you prefer physics to psychics or perhaps you know a precocious paleontologist go to curiosity stream dot com to learn more and sign up today. Honesty now has hundreds of new exclusive music stations for you to discover your get moving with worthy workouts for a cardio sash vilify today's top artists hanging with your crew. Throw it back with picnic party for old school jams for your cookout or sail away with odyssey's new york rock station juggernaut for summer. Barbecue stroh trips blurb relaxing night hundreds of new exclusive stations. Plus all your favorite local radio stations and podcasts. Odyssey brought to you by macy's geico and coke zero sugar with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo was the band. That was the hbo special right. Yeah the woodstock ninety nine..
"karina longworth" Discussed on Little Gold Men
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"karina longworth" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"A career which i guess wes anderson she sh- her whole career was like making things happen for men and never getting credit for it but yeah i highly recommend listening to that. You must remember this season because it will shine a light on somebody who was primarily in. Her career overshadowed by people who didn't deserve the limelight as much as she did right. Yeah because she was for the most part very much like the common thread in like their best work. So it's like well. You know who is here for all of your best work and especially for like peter bogdonovich which i guess film majors can jump in my mentions if they feel like it but she was involved with his two best regarded movies ever and his career. You know kind of that kind of absolutely certainly did take a downturn. After he decided to divorce her he added affair with Civil shepherd cybill shepherd on the set of last picture show and that was kind of the swan song for him being considered a top level tour. Yeah so polly platt which i wanna make sure she gets her her do And also sound. It sounded like there was a really good on the ringer. There was a really good piece on the production of this movie. It's been written about pretty extensively at this point but there were elements of jane's character that were pulled from both susan's are in ski. Who i think was like the main source for jane's life who ended up becoming the head of cbs news. Up until like this year. I guess but but there are elements of for character that were pulled from polly platt and James brooks's relationships so she's very present in the movie she. She also had to take the movie that i super disagreed with. But i thought was interesting. Because i think from her perspective. It makes a lot of sense because she you know her career with very much the story of like trying to quote unquote have it all and have a successful marriage and a successful career in film and she was never able to have both at the same time as is Somewhat common experience especially in the seventies and eighties So she really really really wanted Jane to be able to go with tom at the of the movie even if the relationship was doomed she was really frustrated. That james l. brooks wouldn't let jane have some sort of romantic catharsis even if it was like not the guy for her. She was shoes. Seemed really really upset about it that but then she says in her unpublished memoirs that Karina longworth read a lot from and her series that she's she's like i suppose. I am a living example that you can have the career but you generally don't get them in so i think she wanted this ending for jane that she didn't get for herself and that also didn't happen in the movie. I think that that would of sucked in the movie edmundsbury perspective. Yeah it makes sense. I think you know a lot of creative. People will do this where they will project themselves onto the characters. And that's i think a function of the fact that when you become a creative person it's usually because you have a surplus of empathy sometimes. It's because you are a sociopath raging narcissi super narcissist. But i think for the people who really do the best work. The people who we are beginning to laud more than those narcissists it's empathy it's being able to put yourself in the characters and see their perspectives. And i can see doing that. But james l. brooks was one hundred percent right jane going with. Tom is a rejection of everything. Jane stood for as a character right. It's just wrong and it would have been terrible and it would made you dislike jane even more then you might have just through the course of the movie so i'm glad that it is the way that it is and jane does get a boyfriend in the in the flash war she does and and i'm all for and we've gone back and forth about this on our show for forever. Kate linden's like i dunno. It's like she she. It's clear throughout the movie that she does want some sort of companionship And so it's like yeah..
"karina longworth" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"General really underlines certain toxic qualities about the masculine. Id and the the masculine. Id of people who believe themselves to be smarter or or more self-aware in reality. There are the least self-aware people that there. There is the keys the fake ally in this movie because he says to jane like you know. I'm your best friend only friend. We have the special connection. He's gas lighting her the entire movie. He is manipulating her the entire movie. And he's created this Codependent relationship with this person. that is damaging to her To an an extreme degree. I think it's really brave of him to have been willing to play that character and all of these films and to write and direct movies. Where he's playing this unlikeable character. I think the only movie that he is in that he wrote or co wrote and directed where he's not unlikable is defending your life but the rest of them kind of like. He's the reason why everything is going wrong. And i think that's a really laudable. Wonderful thing and so. That's one of the reasons why i love. It shines light on certain things that we don't like to talk about about masculinity yeah. He didn't writer director movie. But a different brooks did. Yeah james l. brooks which i was lying. That's why their friends are. They related and i don't think they are. You're not james l. brooks though was in another film. That albert brooks is and one of brooks's derogatory efforts modern romance. He plays a film director. And don't believe he's playing himself but he does play a film director in that movie so they were kind of friends from the comedy community of that time. The kind of alternative comedy scene of that moment and i believe that He was also in He was in terms of endearment before this to like. Yeah there's all sorts of fun overlaps james l. brooks really. I mean i. I sort of knew this but you know in researching the production of this movie. Oh he has like a crew that he works with over the course of like what like forty years at this point. Yeah and co creator of the simpsons. And that's one of the reasons why albert brooks was in so many simpsons episodes in the early part of the run of that show. Wow jamie what's your relationship in history with this movie. I liked this movie. I think also i saw it in college. I remember liking it then. And i didn't revisit it for a long time after and then i don't i think it was it. It wasn't until friend of the cast. Karina longworth put out an amazing season of her show. You must remember this last year about polly platt who Was really integral in this movie. Worked with james l. brooks a lot and produced this movie and when i was listening to that series i think like last summer or fall. I was watching her filmography as i was listening. And so i- revisited. This movie and was like pretty blown away by it and was really excited to revisit for this show. I think that this would have been kind of my introduction to most of these actors. When i saw these. I wasn't like a huge film buff in high school or anything. I was Very very nor me and my tastes. I take no shame in it but it but it was true to before as others movie. I was like al like literally. Most of these people were pixar characters to me because albert brooks is the data and finding nemo and holly hunter is mrs incredible so long story short. I've i've never worked in broadcast news. I have worked in news news and it was really interesting to watch after having some experience in that space and i'm really excited to talk about What about you kaitlyn. I two saw this movie for the first time in film school and hush it on you really want film students to watch broadcast news. I think it's one of the only movies. They wanna show like entertaining. This is funny. We're gonna show this funny movie instead of you know berlin alexander or something. Maybe that's why i remember it was there. Were so many movies and films like the film program. I was in the. I well boy did. I hate that. I'm sure it was competent. But what a drag in going to sleep through this. There would always be an intermission like okay. We're in a pause for a little bit. So you guys go to the bathroom and stuff and i would just go back to my door. Sleep the blue angel by max. Oh falls i wanna sleep. Well i'm about to be the villain the the albert brooks of this episode and say that i wasn't as enamored with this movie and i find it to be longer than it needs to be. That's absolutely true. I will not pretend that that is not true. Why's two hours and thirteen minutes. It could be a breezy ninety five minutes. I'm not sure why it's as long as it is. And therefore i find it a boring movie punctuated by some really fun scenes. It's not really my type of movie. Although a you know it is obviously competently made competently written and directed and the performances are really good. But it's just. I don't know it's not really my jam but there are many things to talk about. I'm excited to unpack. It's and i. I will never not be better that. It's two hours thirteen minutes on used to be longer. There's an entire subplot that was cut out. Oh my gosh. It was a longer movie. I know do tell what was what else could have possibly happened. Believe these scenes were shot. Because i think they're on the criterion but okay the shooting script that i read had a subplot where tom befriends. A state department official for employees. I think he's kind of a low level state department person but his roommate knows a bunch of people and so there is a transference of information for flirtation that occurs. And that's where. Tom gets a lot of the the information that he uses to then advance in his career is is because this the state department person finds him attractive. Trust and tom is kind of guy he's just like. Oh yeah we're just friends but he wants to take things to the next level with tom and he doesn't why it on the page at red really offensive and i'm glad they cut it out But that was a whole like it must have been an extra twenty pages screenplay. No thank you yeah. This movie is definitely already A bit long. That's just like any toury. Movie is going to be too long. But i still think that there so i don't know i. I think that this is like one of those movies. That sometimes like when i learned about the production of a movie. I like it less by the time i've learned more. This is the opposite. I the more. I learned about the production of this movie. The more interesting. I think it is cool. Well shall we talk about the story and then go from there. Yeah okay. So here's the recap. We meet our three main characters when they children. Tom who is a nice looking boy..
"karina longworth" Discussed on Revisionist History
"Hi there. I'm Michael Lewis host of against the rules and we're back for our second season. We're talking about coaches. It wasn't that long ago that we only had coaches in sports but now their life coaches and coaches, you can even hire a coach to improve your online dating performance and your charisma. The coaching has become an odd source of unfairness. These coaches who doesn't find against the rules wherever you lessened brought to you by pushing industries. Howard Hughes was born outside of Houston in nineteen o five. His father was in the oil business and made a fortune by inventing a new drill bit for oil wells. Hughes's mother died when he was sixteen and his father died when he was eighteen turning us into one of the wealthiest orphans in America. Making News them has now millionaire sportsman and industrialist Howard Hughes. Unveiled his mystery played in Los Angeles. Racer thousand horsepower motor. Outstrip any plane ever built in America. Almost immediately, Howard Hughes moved to Los. Angeles and there he took up the three great passions of his life airplanes, movies and women. He founded in aviation company. He bought a movie studio are Ko pictures and he pursued beautiful actresses obsessively and compulsively. How much genuine Charm and charisma does he have and how much is it's simply a transaction on both sides of the of the relationship. I think it depended on the woman. Talking with Karina Longworth author of the most fascinating of the Howard biographies of which there are many hers is called. Seduction sex lies starting in Howard Hughes's Hollywood and certainly I think later there was very little. True feeling in these relationships. But Billie, dove the silent film actress who was his first major girlfriend in Hollywood she reported feeling like they were really in Love Katherine. Hepburn. In her memoirs paints a picture of them being really in love which I've chosen to believe even though. There has been some skepticism about Katherine Hepburn in terms of her relationships with men seems to be just reading your book. Deterioration in the quality of his. Relationships over time. Yeah I do think he got the the part of his personality that was more of a collector started to take over, and so it became less about being associated with one woman one usually one very famous woman and more about making sure his basis where covered so that if you lost one, he'd have three more. Extensively Hughes was looking for actresses to star in movies but his studio really didn't make that many movies and after he sold his studio, he still kept collecting young actresses. He would stash them around Los Angeles in houses and apartments each with their own minder. Longer says that sometimes people compare Hughes to Harvey, Weinstein. But to her that's an inexact comparison. Hughes wasn't a Predator. He something else. You talk about how they were. So many of these starlets under escort who would go out, they will go to restaurants and they would be the restaurant the fancy restaurant in wherever beverly. Hills would be full of tables made up of his various starlets with their. He's like crazy. Yeah, and they were always being escorted by the chauffeur or whoever he had sort of assigned to look after them. None of them were there with us I think I. Mean. This was at a point where he wasn't really going out to dinner much at all if and a lot of these women who were under contract to him never met him never saw him They were just sort of in the stable. You know if he per chance decided at one point to put them. To to pay them a visit and they all thought they were going to be in movies. By that point he had he had not made movies and years. Hughes was deeply weird in other ways to he was a Germaphobe. He was emotionally arrested. He wants proposed to the actress faced America by saying I love you faith a one. Mary you. You're the child I should have had. Another time he puts his head in the lap of the mother of the actress who dating starts crying and says, Helen has you I don't have anybody I'm an orphan. and. Then there's the story from the actress Leigh. All I know is that when I would if you and I had a date We went out to dinner. Yes. Suddenly there would be third place there and Howard shoes show I. See I see. Lee. was once one of Hollywood's biggest stars which meant naturally that she was pursued by Hughes. Jay. Talked about later with journalists skip blow and. All of a sudden I'm I go on a date with with the with gentleman and and We're supposed to go sailing and we end up on his plane and in Grand Canyon and and then Las Vegas you know I thought the nightmare would never end. He drove me crazy and find the one time I said for. Cut Sakes why riding manipulate. I hated that yes. I if you WANNA ask me out. Ask me like a man. Sit there and the range. And he said. Will you go out with me and I said No. Mr. Hughes there's something else I think a great many people would like to know about there have been some very absurd descriptions of your physical appearance even in the press conference at Hughes gives in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, two where he's just there to denounce irving the matter of his holiness keeps coming up like. His fingernails. A former hughes associate had once told the press that Hughes never cut his fingernails nails. They had grown to six inches long. Hughes response to this allegation in two parts to be merciful I'm only going to play you part to ask I. Don't ever have a cure is do it myself? I never have had manicurist I didn't know. Maybe it as.
"karina longworth" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"Welcome to October. That's right October for us. Is They? Just a full month of Halloween flavored spooky. Creepy Monster is content. We would put out monstrous and occasionally hearth content at other points during the year, but we really try and make sure that October is just jam packed. We take our the. We take this one holiday very seriously. Anyway. It's monster science all month. That's right and so today Robert You wanted to talk about horror, movies and masks yeah I kind of. Out of I just kept thinking about this recently and don't think there was one particular movie that that inspired it. Because obviously I've been watching slasher movies for a large proportion of my life. I imagine you have as well and I and I don't imagine we have to explain this particular trope to anyone out there. You don't have to have seen a single slasher film to know it by Heart, a masked murderer is on the prow, and perhaps by the end of the film you'll either discover the killer's identity or the nature of the disfiguration that forces them to wear that mask. Yeah, you discover it through this. This unmasking that tends to happen at. At the end of the movie and I think it's interesting that the unmasking or face reveal trope happens in horror movies now. Okay, L. Frame it into is one way that it happens in horror movies that are also mysteries. Yes, this makes total sense to me. Imagine a slasher movie like the scream movies where it turns out at the end of every movie that the killer is a character known to you and you've discovered it was this person all along, and the mask revealed the face. The mascots pulled off the face. Reveal tells you who it was. It conveys information. Get is the Scooby Doo. trope exactly it was old man. Grizzle bums all along. But then there are tons of movies with masked killers that have unmasking moments, but the killer's mask is removed, and it is not. It's not a mystery. It's not a character. like there's Halloween. And the Friday the thirteenth sequels in movies like this. You already know who the killer is, or the killer is not a previously known character, and in these cases I always wonder what purpose does the face reveal serve? It still tends to happen at. At the climax of the movie as if like, this is all what it's all been leading up to. There's the face, but it's not like it reveals anything about who it was just like. That's what his face looks like. Yeah, I mean on one level is just Kinda like the Fangoria magazine Gore Hound ethos right. You know he just building up to that point where you've seen all his grisly stuff, but you want to reach peak. Peak grotesque, and that's where it's going to occur. When mask is pulled off, I guess so. This is of course all just a very well worn trope trope that we keep utilizing our horror fiction. Because let's face it, it works. It's fine, and I realized that it can. It can be a little bit problematic when we start to dissect our love for pretend murder films, which essentially that's what we're talking about. Pretend murder movies and I just want to warn people at the top of this episode that while we often talk about horror movies monsters. Monsters, ghosts and so forth we don't usually talk about real world, serial killers and stuff, which can arguably at least to me be more disturbing, subject matter, and so as a point of illustration of our topic today we will be discussing a few real murderers from history. Just fair warning if that sort of thing is likely to bother you, you know I think about the difference between loving fictional horror and loving say true crime like this is a. A big difference for me. I I love monsters and murder, mystery horror, and all that, but I do not really enjoy true crime at all and often find it unpleasant I mean I can think of a few counter. Examples like movies Odia. This great and I love the the Charles Manson season of the podcast. You must remember this. Have you ever listened to that I Have I. Think I've listened to a few episodes. Yes, it's really good, but. But I have I have not listened to the Charles. Manson episodes will. If you haven't checked it out the here's podcast recommendation, you must remember this with Karina. Longworth is about Hollywood history and I really enjoy it, but in general I. Really prefer my exposure to violence and murder to be fictional, and of course I know people who are exactly the other way around right I. Know You probably due to Robert like they can't stomach even the mildest. But they gobble up nonfiction, crime, books and podcasts about the most horrible kinds of real life, murder and mayhem which to me is more likely to make me feel just kind of depressed. Yeah I don't know I do know individuals who fall into either category individuals who like both I mean there are. There are people who just really love both horror and true crime and we'll and we'll. We'll take it all in our they can they get it You, know for my own part I I'm not as much into true crime right now, but I certainly went through a period of time in college in particular where I was just like consuming everything I could get at the time, and they weren't as many options especially online. We didn't have true crime podcast. Bet that back then. Know I was watching. Any kind of documentary I could get my hands on I was. I was visiting some of the early true crime websites and in reading the Some of those those those big thick detective manuals about homicide investigation. Now one thing that we can come back to in a minute is I bet when you were going through this true crime phase, you may have been surprised to not encounter much use of the mask in in real life murder exactly, and that's that's really.
"karina longworth" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"That's right October for us is just full month of Halloween flavored spooky creepy monstrous content. We put out monstrous and occasionally Theme content at other points during the year but we really try and make sure that October is just jam-packed we take our we take this one holiday very seriously anyway. It's monster science all month. That's right and so today Robert. You wanted to talk about horror movies and masks. Yeah I kind of I kept thinking about this recently and i. I don't think there was one particular movie that that inspired it because obviously I've been watching slasher movies for a large of my life. I imagine you have as well and I and I don't imagine we have to explain this particular trope to anyone out there. You don't have to have seen a single slasher film to know it by heart. A masked murderer is on the prowl and perhaps by the end of the film. You'll either discover the killer's identity or the nature of the disfiguration. That forces them to wear that mask. Yeah you discover it through this this unmasking. That tends to happen at the end of the movie and I think it's interesting that the unmasking or face reveal trope happens in horror movies now okay. L. Framing into is one way is that it happens in horror movies. That are also mysteries. Yes this makes total sense to me. Imagine a slasher movie like the scream movies where it turns out at the end of every movie that the killer is a character known to you. And you've discovered it. Was this person all along. The mask revealed the face masks pulled off. The face revealed tells you who it was conveys information get is the Scooby Doo trope. Exactly Oldman Grizzly Adams all along. But then there are tons of movies with masked killers that have unmasking moments but the killer's mask is removed and it is not. It's not a mystery. It's not a character There's Halloween and the Friday the thirteenth sequels in movies. Like this. You already know who the killer is or the killer is not a previously known character and in these cases I always wonder what purpose does the face reveal serve. It still tends to happen at the climax of the movie as if like this is all what it's all been leading up to. There's the face but it's not like it reveals anything about who it was just like well. That's what his face looks like. Yeah I mean one level was just kind of like the Fangoria magazine. Like Gore Hound Ethos right you know it's like you just you're you're building up to that point where you're seeing all his grisly stuff but you want to reach like peak peak grotesque and that's where it's going to occur when mask pulled off. I guess so so this is of course all just a very well. Worn trope trope that we keep utilizing in our horror fiction because let's face it it works. It's fine and I realized that it can. It can be a little bit problematic when we start to dissect our love for pretend murder films which essentially that's what we're talking about pretend murder movies and I just want to warn people at the top of this episode that while we often talk about horror movies monsters ghosts and so forth. We don't usually talk about real world serial killers and stuff which can arguably at least to me be a more disturbing subject matter and so as a point of illustration of our topic. Today we will be discussing few real murderers from history. Just fair warning. If that sort of thing is likely to bother you you know. I think about the difference between loving fictional horror and loving say true crime like the. This is a big difference for me. I love monsters and murder mystery horror and all that but I do not really enjoy true crime at all and I often find it unpleasant. I mean I can think of a few counter examples like I like the movies Zodiac this great and I love the the Charles. Manson season of the podcast. You must remember this. Have you ever listened to that I Have I think I've listened to a few episodes. Yes it's really good but I have. I have not listened to the Charles Manson episodes. Well if you haven't checked it out. Here's podcast recommendation You must remember this with Karina. Longworth is about Hollywood history. I really enjoy it. But in general I really prefer my exposure to violence and murder to be fictional. And of course I know people who are exactly the other way around right. I know you probably due to Robert. Like they can't stomach even the mildest of monster movies. But they gobble up nonfiction crime books and podcasts about the most horrible kinds of real life murder and mayhem Which to me is more likely to make me feel just kinda depressed. Yeah I know I do know individuals who fall into either koetter individuals who like both I mean there are there are people who just really love both are in true crime and we'll and we'll take it all in however they can they can get it You know for my own part. I'm not as much into true crime right now but I certainly went through a period of time In College in particular I was just consuming everything I could get at the time and they weren't as many options especially online. We didn't have true crime. Podcast Beth that back then. I was watching any kind of forensic documentary. I could get my hands on. I was I was visiting some of the the early true crime websites and In in reading the. You know some of those Those those big thick detective manuals about homicide investigation. Now one thing that we can come back to a minute. Is I bet when you were going. Through this true crime phase you may have been surprised to not encounter much use of the mask in in real life murder. Exactly and that's that's really the the the question that That kind of led to this episode was just a a the question in the realization. That when you look at you look at all of these masks psychopathic individuals in our fiction. And then you you look to real-life Serial murders in true crime. And you really. Don't see that many mask. You do see a few notable of exceptions which we will discuss here but for the most part The killer's mask seems to be an obsession of fiction That is not as present in real life crime and we will certainly explore some potential reasons for that later on in the episode. Now do want to mention one thing here we we we've been talking about true crime and In horror fiction kind of as if they are just two completely separate kingdoms of course these kingdoms border each other and actually overlap. It becomes impossible to to really keep going away from the other. You have horror movies. That are very much inspired by real life. Murders real life crime and then unfortunately we also have the reverse which will discuss just briefly as well where you have real life. Crime that is inspired by horror fiction. Now if we stick to fictional horror for a bit you can think of some obvious reasons that it might make sense for a villain to wear a mask right. Yeah Yeah. Let's roll through some of the obvious reasons. First of all the scooby. Doo factor creates a sense of mystery. Who or what is underneath? That mask gotTa know. It makes a lot more sense for this to be the case in movies where there is actually a known character whose identity is being concealed. Right when I was in in high school A friend of mine collected these larger scale. Gi Joe figures not the old school ones kind of like a new school version. It was he had one of And apparently the mask would come off but he refused to take the doll out of the box. Which always just a I was like. How can you do that? Don't you gotTa Know Right? You GotTa know what dextrose face looks like underneath that mask on the stall and I never found out so to my knowledge. He never opened the box. But there is. There's this this even when we know that it's not vital to like the true identity to care. There is something about the identity of the character wrapped up in whatever is being hit from us. What do you think you're GONNA learn by seeing his face? It's kind of? It's almost something that's not put into words. I mean it might be something akin to this like. We're so dependent upon the human face to understand intention and motivation. I mean the face is a communications array and of that and the other individuals face hidden from us. True communication cannot take place so I feel like part of the unmasking. Psychology is based in that. Like like we're having a one sided facial conversation here and you must remove that mask for this for this understanding to be true. Well in general to be uncovered is to be vulnerable to be covered is to be guarded away right now. Another advantage to having a mass killer in your fiction is of course it sets up that potential big reveal. We've been talking about right. What's the identity of the killer? What's the what's the monster's face look like you're going to build anticipation especially if that is the trope especially if that is what is expected you go into that? Friday the thirteenth movie knowing that there's going to be a moment where you get to see Jason Voorhees his face. There are also some very practical filmmaking concerns. You can take into account here right. Oh yeah because it's generally cheaper to just put a mask on your character then to do all of that crazy makeup special effects especially if you're using a generic mask like a hockey mask or a sack or a gas mask or some William Shatner. Yeah just something you find and you might say. We'll we'll heck some really impressive. Tom savini makeup effects that are utilized to create Jason in many of those films right when the unmasking does occur. But if you think think of it this way like that's a that's a costly makeup effect to roll out and he can't just put it on once if you're filming it multiple times you're going to have to put it on multiple times. It's going to cost time and money but if you have him just wear a hockey mask for most of the time. Then that just makes filming easier. And if you can't afford that fancy makeup it all to begin with then there you go. That's that's the easiest step to take putting a mask on. I would say also requires less of your actor. That's right you don't have to really worry as much about your the acting abilities of the actor or you don't have to depend on having a particular You know unique face some thinking on one hand you don't have to have Christopher Lee who Who was you know an accomplished of Horror Act door? And you don't also don't have to worry about. Do I have a like a a Robert Zadar? Somebody who maybe arguably as was not as great an actress Christopher Lee but definitely had a very interesting face You don't have to have either of those. If you just have a mask you can throw over the individual basically just cast your stunt coordinator exactly which I believe is is generally what you see in some cases you just have to stunt player or somebody with a large frame perhaps Playing the character. And then. Hey you can use as many actors you actually need you can recast it every movie. You don't have to worry about getting into into deep contract negotiations with your with your slasher character. It's also great branding. Great for Halloween costumes. Oh I see so. That's I mean that's the reason that Jason Voorhees so easily pops up on every street During Halloween or certainly at every haunted attraction any haunted house commercial haunted house. You might go to..
"karina longworth" Discussed on KQED Radio
"On both ends of radio there FCC. So sorry about that. Okay. But but I what I'm saying is that there was a kind of. That's a great story, though, resilience that a lot of women had and they were strong and not just victims. And I I think it would make a mistake. If we we paint, a sort of singular picture also there were many wonderful people who worked in Hollywood. It was a mecca for for individuals who had imagination who were bright well educated either through university or just self educated. Great writers. My own growing up I felt surrounded by magical people. So while these things did go on and they should be focused on an illuminated. And they. They tell us how to think about what happens for women today, and we've come a long way, and that's a wonderful thing as as Jennifer points out women were very strong and very effective. And and Porton part of the power of what happened in Hollywood. A lot of ordinary relationships too. I mean, a lot your parents had a happy marriage for many years so had previous marriages. But they, you know, really settled into a life of what comes across in your memoirs harmony and devotion to each other, particularly after your father had a stroke and went through the tragic your mother went back to work in the films really to support the family is quite a story in your dad was a little. I mentioned for example, Carolina. But he was also had a relationship with Loretta young and Glenda Farrell. Yes. Normal relationships by any standards, I suppose, but let's go to more of our callers and see what's on their minds. We go to you. Lisa. You're on morning. Hi, yes. I just wanted to respond to what was said earlier about banning films that are made by directors who I think that's missing the point of the metoo movement, which is not to then any films, but to reexamine the entire body of work of Hollywood that is predominantly hetero. Sex heterosexual, sexist racist. I mean, the stand I went to film school the standard for a harmless down is to scare women. The romantic comedy has to have a happy ending of a woman getting married to a man this entire Yana. That Hollywood created is what needs to be examined and create new concepts new narratives new themes that. I think some women directors are starting to do now. But I think we need to look at this a little more deeply it's not about one. Man. It's an entire system sense. And what you're saying and wisdom. Thank you. Lisa for that. And here's Gerald who puts forth opinion, says power differentials are the key. When women can readily be impoverished by the decisions of certain men. Some of them will use that power. Let me go to more of your calls. Let's go next to Anita Anita. Welcome. I'm on the radio hold on. Hi, hi. A couple of women who have heavily inspired me. And my love for film is Gordon, but it's so much behind as well as in front of the camera and then maye west who pushed boundaries on film on stage. Right direct all that stuff. So maybe we can hear some comments about those two fabulous women who wants to come here. Say something about either those women Jennifer Smith Mae west, obviously, I mean, she's a great favourite of mine too. And you know, and she wrote all of her own script some, but you know, because of the production code in the censorship rules that they had in place. You know, she was like, you know, Victoria, had to censor what she said a few minutes ago there were similar things, you know, operating with Hollywood content as well too and her career just disappeared. She sort of gave up and went off and worked in and Broadway, and and so forth, but you know, Ruth, Gordon, she was famous enough in Hollywood to have really her own bio pic, gene, Simmons played her in the actress in one thousand nine hundred eighty three so she was such a legend at that time that even when she was still, you know acting. She was she was the subject of a biographical film. And I don't know. I mean, I'd like to respond to Lisa comment because I think you're absolutely right. That Hollywood is a menu its place that manufacturers racist movies. Absolutely. But I think. In looking back at the period in the nineteen twenties. Even one thousand nine hundred nineteen forties. That producers were aware that they had to pay more attention to female audiences. And I think Sam Goldwyn said this very, well, he said that that some that it's women who are calling the shots in Hollywood. And there were so many more films that had female protagonists, and they didn't always end up with the guy at the end. They are actually had other interests. They were working women. There were a multiplicity of stories out there for them. And we'll often when we think about this period. You know, I go back to Molly Haskell's fantastic. Book from reverence to rape. We have these wonderful icons like may west, and Greta Garbo, Katharine Hepburn Barbara Stanwick, and they're from this period. And the interesting thing is you have a lot of women who are writing these scripts, and then there were more women who were writing A-List hints in the thirties and forties. And there are now and more women screenwriters who were part. Of the guild than there are now. So progress isn't linear in all respects. And since we were talking a little bit about censorship. You mentioned that what about the code and all this as far as women were concerned. Can I get you a common enough Jennifer spot? Well, the code was completely controlled by men. I don't think there was a single woman involved in the administration of Joseph Breen's office aside from a secretary. But there were there all kinds of women who were writing, and who were editing who are trying to work themselves around the code. I I don't know. I mean, it's curiosity. Maybe should explain a little bit about what the code was for our listeners. Well, there are all sorts of concerns. And in a way, it has to do with Hollywood's bad reputation that goes back to the nineteen twenty s and all sorts of scandal sex scandals, including ones about of women, and there was a real sort of fear of the kind of power that Hollywood had over morals and a lot of this focus not only on behind the scenes scandals like the fatty arbuckle scandal in the nineteen twenty and the Desmond Taylor scandal. But but also content and the kinds of images that were being screened so too much sex too much violence glorifying gangsters, and sort of, you know, Howard Hughes had his had so many brushes with sensors who were intent on cutting some of the more outrageous concert in his pictures. And this golden age was a period that was heavily censored in terms of its content. And there was a written document that said, for example, when we were just talking about racism, you couldn't have sexual relations or any kind of relation. Really depicted between an African American in a white person, you couldn't show homosexuality or suggest it. I you couldn't insults. The pope. They're all sorts of things that you couldn't do and behind the scenes, it may seem like producers could do whatever they wanted. But I think they had to be pretty careful too. Because one of the things we forget about these days is that antisemitism was so rife at this time. And a lot of producers realized that you know, they were not beyond the law. They also had to answer occasionally the head of hopper in the well Parsons, but they had to be careful because you know, we call them moguls now, and we don't think about why. And this is a term that it's foreign, and it's part of the sort of wider nativist fear of Hollywood that it was a place where Jewish men were running the media, and we're an enormous positions of power. And it was a it was a dangerous place for them potentially as well. And that's something we forget let me go back. If I may Karina Longworth to you on this because Howard Hughes had a lot to do with what we just heard Jennifer Smith talking about. And that is creating this whole image where women are concerned, and where women's sexuality was concerned and really objectify women in that way. Yeah. I mean, all of the films that he took a personal hand in producing or directing. He really tried to push the limits of what the censorship board would allow, and you know, I think that there's a misconception from a lot of people that the outlaw was heavily censored because of its depiction of Jane Russell's breasts, in fact on the first try, basically, the the censorship board approved the film itself. But they had a problem with was the marketing, which was even more risque, which was even more about like showing cartoons of of Jane Russell's body in one newspaper ad that that he is bought to promote that film. There's a cartoon of a man pinning. Jane, Russell down in a hayloft, which if you see the film, you'd know is a cartoon about the film's rape scene. So there was these things that that really like got the censorship board very upset. We're getting some personal stories are I'm looking at a listener named madeleine's comments. She writes at the end of October nineteen thirty seven nine weeks after my mother arrived in Hollywood, I was conceived possibly on the couch, but probably at a Halloween party. I've started researching her life in a foul many records and people who were part of the story. But I haven't yet found my father. There's another personal story from Pat, Pat, you're on good morning. Good morning. Thank you so much for this conversation. It's been amazing and taking me all kinds of places I had to pull over to the side of the road. But I have a question for the author. And it is how do we get Hollywood to really take responsibility for the role it plays in the toxic masculinity, which I think is the term when Niki is how how do we get Hollywood Jalili live up to what it needs to do in order to read our whole culture and society of the really problematic masculinity problems that we that we have now it's a very good question pebble. Where'd you could say something about your mother's story? Yes. Well, my mother was always enamored with Hollywood. And that's why should came to America from London with my father father was architects, and he got a job at Indiana state university in Terre Haute, Indiana. And my mother had seen all the movies. Love Greta Garbo. I mean, she made me watch them all Harlow. I mean, I don't even know most of them, but I grew up on Marilyn Monroe, and my mother thought that Hollywood was going to discover her for sure she was she's pretty and she had these dreams, but she was in Indiana. So it never happens. And she died last November. But she's still love Hollywood sorry for your loss. How many young women went there with those dreams thinking that would be the next land Turner? You know, he's discovered I guess it was drugstore wasn't very Ramos discovered and given what five dollar parts early on that she was discovered walk. Now, the street sort of I mean, she did a little got a little job acting as a clown in a movie, and she just thought she was fabulous which I think then gave her the courage to go to how Roach studios and walk in. There were no Renault gate guards in those days, and she knocked on the door of the head of production and said I'd like to have a contract, and he said fine wasn't her favorite role was not King Kong. I think it was the Stroheim film wasn't. She made a film with Eric von Stroheim emphasis silent film called the wedding March. And it was it was Mitzi. She was Mitzi, and that was a great role onto beautiful film question that just came across from the less listener who called in about the role of men in. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I think film circus extraordinarily powerful. And we all know that and shapes our view of our culture. I personally think it does matter. What stories we? Right. What films we make? And how portray men and women, and how we portray who we are as a culture overseas because it's a huge part of Putin American export. So I've always been sort of an advocate for telling stories that are truthful. How aware was your dad of the impact that his? I mean, his screenplays were so much part of the American imagination and American civilization. Really? Right. Well, right after World War Two when it was coming to an end. There was a big debate about whether or not it was this fear that they were communist ideas that were seeping into into films. And and no, no, political ideas. For example, he was the view should be in films. And he said, you know, every film has influence, so it does matter what you say, but you can't extract point of view or philosophy. At so..
"karina longworth" Discussed on KQED Radio
"North highlands, Sacramento. It's ten thirty one. This is forum. I'm Michael Krasny. We're talking about me to from Hollywood's golden age and its connection to our present age. But also talking about the role of women in Hollywood during that studio era. We have three book authors with us Karina Longworth is the author of seduction sex lies and stardom and Howard Hughes. Hollywood. She's also film critic and podcast and created you must remember this storytelling podcast about the forgotten histories of early Hollywood. And formerly she was an editor. And film critic of the LA weekly and village voice. Jennifer Smith with us as well. Professor history, the university of work, and she is the author of nobody's girl. Friday, the women who ran Hollywood, and we also have Victoria risk inherent studio. The author affair Ray, and Robert Riskin a Hollywood memoir. Former president of the writers guild of America West between two thousand one and two thousand four and she served for twelve years as director of Human Rights Watch. And she'll be appearing the evening at book passage and coordinated excuse me on April thirtieth. Not the incorrect that April thirtieth at book passage in quarter Madeira and ask you, Victoria. Just before we go to our callers. And by the way, let me invite you to join us again wanna talk about the golden age of Hollywood. Are you wanna talk about the metoo would then as opposed to now you can join us at our toll free number eight six six seven three three six seven eight six or Email us forum? kqeDorg your parents were married in the actually in the suite of wild Bill. Donovan who is the founder of the would would later become the CIA. That's right. They were wild Bill. Donovan before he went to work for the government was a lawyer, and he had represented my mother in the divorce from her first husband and had been. Looked after her been been big support. And then when my father was looking for work to do after the war broke out, and they are romance had begun. He was looking for the right job in government. And at that time while Bill Donahue was part of the office of strategic services the precursor to the CIA. So my mother arranged a meeting, and and it went very well. And he went to work for the government making movies to tell the story of America and overseas to people living under fascism and and Donovan helped make that happen. And then they they got married. My mother proposed my father, I think that's an important thing to note that women can propose to. He was he had a relationship with your mother had one with Clifford. Oh debts. And so there's all this fascinating history there, and and I really enjoyed reading about what went on during the difficult period of the blacklist in your book. And then the other books that were featuring here, and also, of course, FDR World War Two and that brings up and let me go to you on this. Jennifer Smythe brings up the name. In fact, I'm looking at listener Noel who wants to ask about Pino? Yes. We'll either Latino was one of the trio of extremely powerful actresses at Warner Brothers. She went on to be director and screenwriter Harold. It is one of the two great directors of the golden age of Hollywood the other colleague of hers Dorothy ours ner worked for Harry Cohn at Columbia. We come back to that name again. And again, but Lupino didn't do quite as well at Warner Brothers because she always got the leavings of Bette Davis and alleviate Haviland and eventually branched out on her own. And it was very fortunate as well to when films started coming out in the forties and early fifties to have an ally in had a hopper who was the gossip Queen of Hollywood and known for her, you know, bad relationship with the Hollywood laughed, but she was interesting because when it came to supporting women in Hollywood, she cross political lines. And so I was really surprised looking. Through her column coming across all kinds of references in support of the Pena who was a democrat and hopper also loved Bette Davis. And it was really the tip of the iceberg. When I was looking back through, you know, the trades and through a lot of the columns and memoirs during this period reconstructing, a real community of women who had each other's back. And of course, we often forget nineteen forties was a period when the equal rights amendment was important to women on in both Republican and democratic camps. And it was something that they both advocated for during this period, unfortunately, didn't get past. But it came pretty close. Karina longworth. Jennifer just mentioned Hella had a hopper, and I it's interesting reading in your book to what extent Howard Hughes tried to use Hedda hopper and Luella Parsons for that matter who were couple of very powerful women. Indeed. Yeah. I mean, he has had relationships with all the gossip columnists, and he kind of played them off of each other. And and would you know as a lot of people did he would trade them a piece of information? So that they wouldn't write about something. He didn't want them to write. But I just like to go back to idle the piano, she was known as a democrat and and a big fan of FDR. But in my book, I my right about her and blacklist, right, right? I I went through her F B I file, and it has evidence that she did. Volunteer information to the FBI that helped them blacklist people because she was worried about her own citizenship. Applications so her legacy as Phil as female filmmaker is is not in doubt. I mean, it's she's absolutely a feminist icon for that. But it's her political history as much more complicated and the same is true Clifford. Oh, that's when we mentioned earlier who was serious suitor affair raise. But let's go to your calls. And let's find out. What's your thoughts and questions? Are we begin Neil with you? You're on the air. Neil. Yeah. I read your book seduction about Howard Hughes. I was surprised but baffled Hughes was widely said to be sexual. And you don't mention that. At all not even asking in the book winning explain much of what he did, especially. But that's his. I do meant. I do mention it actually in the section about Katherine Hepburn. That this is something that has come up and other biographies. I don't think it's widely documented at all. Let me think Neil for the call and go right to another caller. And that's caller, Robert warning. Good morning. I'm interested in in the writing of their research funding, of course, a number of others that were serious transgressive. And. By today's standards with the sexual predators. That s to the view what should happen to their work. Should it be put on the shelf be notation on the introduction to the work? When it shown that these people were in fact, violative of women and women's right? You know, there's a there's a question that comes across as to how far the metoo movement should go. There's a number of celebrities that have been banned from working. And and others that. In the past been boycotted. Happen here. Raising a provocative question in professor Smith, the go to you on this. I mean, should these films be shown in schools, should there'd be a disclaimer, you know, these are real questions in people's minds. Well, the thing that Matt Harvey Weinstein excuse me, made some pretty good films. Do you? I'm sorry. Did Shakespeare in love, of course, you know there. There's a case, for example of David o cells neck who was famous for propositioning women during his career. And I think that one executive who was female used to warn other women when he takes his shoes off, it means that he's gonna make pass it you. But does that discount in any way, the great work? He did with gone with the wind or the first star is born. And I think the more information that is out there in the more research. We do that's all to the good. But do you want to rename all of the Hollywood buildings that bear the names of Louis b Mayer and Daryl zanuck, do you want to strike their names from, you know, these monuments in these records, I don't think that's that's something that we really want to you know, to broach. That's a dangerous precedent something like that slippery slope. If you get into that area, then maybe you should ban showing birth of a nation, which is. Terribly racist film, but his brilliant cinematography and direction. It's it's a complicated and tough question to be sure. And I thank you for bringing it up to our. Attention. Here's a tweet from a listener, maybe to you on this to professor Smith. Why did it take so long to write about sexual violence in the golden age of Hollywood was just not taken seriously? Well, it's a difficult question. Because I mean in the press these days, we hear about big bad Hollywood. And we hear that, you know, things have always been bad for women. They've always been victimized. And I think in a way, it's it's unfortunate. Because even though there were terrible cases. And of course, there's the Patricia Douglas case, which David STAN has written about so extensively which affected an extra. You have all of these horrible cases. But at the same time, you have women who are dealing with sexual harassment not just in Hollywood, but throughout the United States. I mean, people will say Rita Hayworth was a great victim. You know, carry Cohn was chasing her around the desk and trying to put her in compromising positions. But at the same time for years, she was sexually abused by her own father. So I think it's sometimes difficult to place all the blame on Hollywood. And at the same time Hollywood wasn't the originator of the casting couch that honor goes to Broadway into the theater where they actually named up the van. In the producer's office, the casting couch. So very often. I think we tend to demonize that early period. And when we demonize it when we think about these horrific experiences actresses have we tend to distort the picture that there were women who fought back. There were women who worked together to out some of these predators. There were women who succeeded in spite of these difficult isn't women who as Victoria mentioned, we're quite tight lipped about their experience. And just said, well, I'm I'm, you know, going to be an equal partner in this industry. And I'm going to fight for my rights and get on with it. And I'm not going to allow myself to be victimized. So I think it's a pretty complicated. Picture. I I would say that. Because I think I worry that we're painting a picture of this as Hollywood old Hollywood being a place where predators. Right here. Where predator, and it was actually a small town where there were many people who are wonderful descend caring bright people who looked after one another. Or someone like I think about someone like Carole Lombard who used her profanity with great ease. And it was to scare men off at work. My father was. Wrote a picture that she was in. And there's a cute story about her coming in to meet with Harry Cohn to see if she was the right one for the for the picture, and he he just..
"karina longworth" Discussed on KQED Radio
"In two thousand seventeen the metoo movement began exposing Hollywood's culture of sexual violence, which then broadened into a global rallying cry but social coercion and abuse has long had a place in Hollywood is three recently released books tests. The books examined the working conditions of women during Hollywood's golden age and the abuses of casting couch predators like Howard Hughes when Harry Cohn we're going to talk with the authors about the vast contributions and challenges for women in the studio era joining us from studios, Victoria, Riskin. She's the author of fairway and. And Robert Riskin Hollywood memoir about her parents, and she's also former president of the writers guild of America West and a board member of KCRW NPR member station in Santa Monica. Welcome to the program. Thank you. Happy to be here. Glad to have you here. Encourage FINA, assuming Karina Longworth also joins us for this hour. She's the author of called seduction sex lies and stardom in Holly in Howard, Hughes's Hollywood. And she's a crater the podcast, you must remember this. Welcome Karina Longworth. Karina Longworth, we have you. Well, we'll try to connect with her. In the meantime, all recognized Jennifer Smyth is with us author of nobody's girl. Friday, the women who ran Hollywood. And she's professor of history at the university of work and welcome to the program. Thanks a lot, Michael. Thank you. Let me begin with you, professor spies. Let's begin by talking about this Iraq, particularly since we're putting good deal of emphasis in spotlight on the casting couch and the difficulties during that era golden era, it's often call, but there's also a forgotten kind of her story part of this women played a extraordinarily significant role more than I think even a lot of the historians know in fact, in the words of Bette Davis for those twenty years with the golden era. They ruled Hollywood yes, many people would argue that. In fact, the industry was rather interesting because they put out press releases, and they were columnists who claimed that Hollywood was a generation or two ahead of the rest of the country in terms of employing women, and when I was actually doing research. On this period in the great, depression and the second World War. I found statistics that claim that nearly half of all Hollywood employees were women, and they weren't just secretaries or women who are lying on the casting couch. They were producers they were supervising editors they were presidents to the screen writers guild. You know, they could do just about anything. Yeah. And the numbers of in perhaps still didn't get the recognition that they deserved or that it warranted. But forty percent of them were actually working in the film industry. And a lot of those were writers and producers and pretty high up in positions. It's it's kind of forgotten page of American history as I said, but the height of the of the studio system itself really saw. Mainly the stars. I mean, Betty Davis. I mentioned Katherine Hepburn I'm in and many of these stars really did gain their stardom or move to the top. By having to go through a kind of hazing and sexual difficulties in real challenges on that score. Yes. I think that some actresses did. But it depended how well protected you are, for example, Katherine Hepburn came from very wealthy background. She had the agent Leland Hayward who had her back. It was also her boyfriend for a while. And she was rather funny. I think there was one story about her and Harry cohn's office when he was interviewing her for holiday nineteen thirty eight and he made some sort of remark about hearing how good she was in bed, and she just totally blanked him. And he tried it several times and she ignored him. And he just gave up and the same thing with Betty Davis. She came out was working at universal before she moved to Warner Brothers and was just, you know, little mousy brunette. Nobody knew who she was. And you know, even on one of the first days on the set some lighting guy said get this brought out of the way, she screamed, oh, you can't talk to me like that only realizing later on that abroad. With another term for a light not for a woman. So there were some women who put up with it because they realized they had to. But there were others that, you know, really went after the system and sometimes made it work for them because I think Bette Davis one of those interesting stars who was able to work with the system in a really interesting way and others were not so successful. Davis was fighting for the area, but you also had executives like John Harrison. Some pretty important players in those days. But most of the would-be players, unfortunately, playboys were were men, Harry the rat colon. I mean, those what he was known as. I mean, he at Columbia did a lot of promoting for women at Columbia, and certainly made a reputation for himself as one of these almost could you compare them to Harvey Weinstein was he that. No, I think he's really much-maligned. No, he did some absolutely horrendous things, but you know, compared to all of his other producing colleagues he hired more women writers and producers than anybody else. And he wasn't just there to proposition them. I think Virginia van office probably one of the most famous people know her for producing incorrect and Gilda and some of the great noirs, and he promoted her actually to, you know, the executive producer at his studio Columbia over the heads of several other men, and when he found out that these other men hadn't congratulated her the next day. He fired them all. Yeah. Well, there there are mixed reviews. The number of everything about Louis b Mayer, for example, who oh, yeah. His assistant wasn't an Idaho woman. She was pretty powerful in her own, right. But Louis b Mayer was known for reportedly, for example groping and harassing Judy Garland threatening her. I mean, there's some pretty ugly episodes with a lot of these executives and even Arthur free this well to going after a Shirley temple when she was a preteen pretty disgusting. Disgusting. And then you have people like Joan Collins and Marilyn Monroe, even Shirley temple reporting in their memoirs about tempted molestations and so forth. So it was right? It was just really would Hollywood was at that time. No getting around it talking about what holiday was though, I want to actually also bring in. Excuse me, Karina Longworth before we talked to Victoria Riskin who's here with us in studio, and she's the author seductive seduction sex lies and start in Howard uses Hollywood. So it wasn't so much. Maybe the women's Hollywood Korean along with it was Howard Hughes. Hollywood new say, he's a Trojan horse. Well, that's how I approached writing. This book has that. I, you know, it's a book about Howard. He's as Hollywood. But what it really is to me as a story of of about a dozen women who were involved with him from the nineteen twenties through the end of the nineteen fifty s and the story was Hughes's pretty sordid and exploitative one. I mean, he was actually hiring informers and detectives and people to follow these women. He was also, of course, playing the PR role. We know that picture of Jane Russell. And so many other pictures that he put out there which tried to. He was fighting the censors at the same time trying to show flesh, and yet really creating a whole picture you call it the male gaze that we now take for granted news very freely. Yeah. Sorry. What the question? Yeah. Sort of trying to urge a little bit to talk about that in more detail by stating at the way, I did. But let's talk about Houston this role that he played. I mean, stalking hunting women whose predator. Sure. I mean, that's something that he became involved with. I think you know, from the nineteen forties on their isolated stories of him before that, you know, maybe sending detectives in parked cars to watch girlfriends of has like Billie dove or Ginger Rogers. But one seed becomes more powerful as a film producer with the outlaw. And then as the head of our studios, it really becomes an everyday thing of of setting up these processes where he has drivers were driving contracts starlets around who are also spying on their every move. He is sending photographers all over the country to take very specific photographs of girls like with the promise that he could turn them into stars. And he's yeah, he's just really kind of keeping tabs on women who he may. Be interested in romantically who he may be interested in professionally who he may be interested in for both. But all of them kind of get this idea that he's gonna make them a star. And he doesn't really make any of them. Just are always promising to deliver fame and deliver fortune sorta reminded me in some ways of our president. At least, according to stormy Daniels testimony and others who. Worked with him in one way or another. How did he uses publicity machine though to manipulate women? Well, I feel like Howard Hughes is sort of an untold master of publicity. And and you see this from the very beginning of his time in Hollywood where he makes this film Hell's Angels, which he shoots for over. A course of three years and everybody thinks it's going to be a disaster. And it turns out to be pretty spectacular at least in terms of its aviation footage, but he's able to use his publicity machine to promote it as being this. Incredible spectacular hit which it wasn't and also promote Jean Harlow, as you know, this bombshell. She's the first platinum blonde bombshell. And so he creates his image of her as this sort of larger than life. Sex goddess who will bring men crashing to their deaths like the poster of Hells Angels is a huge image of her almost naked body and these tiny images of airplanes falling out of the sky around her. But she really felt like that wasn't who she was and that she became typecast as this sort of sex bomb when she really didn't feel sexually confident or sexually powerful at all. There's a photograph in your book of Katherine Hepburn being overly feminized. And this was something that he did and many ways use genius, Susan aviator. He was an inventor, but you know, his his reputation as a playboy almost made him an icon. It was like sorta Warren Beatty of this time, he goes through the list of women mentioned, Jane Russell, you mentioned Jean Harlow. I've mentioned Katharine Hepburn Ginger Rogers, Betty Davis that ended his first marriage Ava Gardner. I mean women that he was involved with in one way or another and let me talk about a little bit with you, Jean Peters woman. He married because in your book, you go into a kind of well taking domestic violence and making it trying to make it attractive. Domestic violence against Jean Peters. In terms of domestic wasn't. She that movie where he were you were saying, so you're you're talking about the film pickup on south Howard Hughes had nothing to do with. But starring Jean Peters. Yes. I mean, it was suggested however, you said anything to do with it. I'm just saying that we see these images of women throughout and yet. I want to talk about it from the other side because women were getting work legitimate work in Hollywood as we said with Jennifer Smyth, also so he did have a kind of two sided nature to this. But at the same time somebody like Hughes is almost emblematic, isn't he? I think that Howard Hughes did a lot of things that other Hollywood moguls and men in Hollywood dead, but he did it in a larger and cruder way. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just think that everybody in Hollywood was making money promoting images of sexy women, but Howard Hughes really focused his whole business on that. He didn't really have a lot of ideas for filmmaking or film marketing aside from building these like spectacular marketing campaigns around like, Jane Russell's breasts or he produces the the Roberto Rossellini film Stromboli starring Ingrid Bergman. And then he does his newspaper ads of an exploding volcano and with like sort of phallic double entendre text. And that was just really the only thing on his mind. There was a picture of. Jane, Russell, I'm in the picture and the outlaws one that's well known, of course. But then there's picture for in a nightgown jumping on a bed. Right. When she was first cast in the outlaw for the first few weeks of the shoot. She wasn't actually on camera for the filming. She was kept busy having photographers take all these publicity photos of her. And she actually drew the line one day after she was forced. To jump on a bed wearing a a loose white ninety. She at that point. She felt like she was really being sexually exploited. And she refused to do photographs quite like that anymore. But I sure hurt she was associated with Howard Hughes for many many years and all he really did. In terms of promoting her was promoting her body Karina Longworth with us author of seduction sex lies and start in Howard who's Hollywood. And she's a crater the podcast. You must remember this and Victoria Riskin here in studio. She's your author of Fay Wray, and Robert Riskin a Hollywood memoir about her parents. And I was telling her before we went on the air. It's it's very moving. Love story to be registered that the AP is calling it the Oscar of Hollywood memoirs. Let's talk about your mother I fair Ray because everybody associated with twenty five foot. 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"To another episode of you must remember this the podcast dedicated to exploring the secrets, and or forgotten histories of Hollywood's first century. I'm your host Karina Longworth today, we bring you the last episode of our own going series, fake, news fact, checking Hollywood Babylon. This is news. This is totally unfounded gossip it's a long way from Hollywood, criticized we're dealing to frankly, the such themes as sex nudity Hollywood along. Long. Today's subject is Ramon Navarro Ramon Navarro was a Mexican actor and singer who apparently had sexual relationships only with men, but due to a combination of his devotion to Catholicism censorship of non heterosexuality in early Hollywood and his own preference for privacy Novara chose to keep his sex life private and his public persona closeted for all of his sixty nine years alive. Navarro was brutally outed when his murder at the hands of two men who he invited over to his house ostensibly for sex came to light, you wouldn't know most of even this very basic summary of who've Ramon Navarro was firm reading Hollywood Babylon here is an unedited excerpt from. Hollywood Babylon containing Kenneth Anger's only extended writing about the star. Ramona Varos ghastly death by beating in nineteen sixty eight brought to mind the bizarre crimes of Hollywood's past here was a man dying as he had lived extravagantly choked in his own blood, the lead art deco dildo, which Valentino had given him forty five years. Earlier thrust down his throat too dumb beasts hustler brothers from Chicago Paulin, Tom. Ferguson chose October thirty first Halloween to play death. Angels for the sixty nine year old Ben her all the boys wanted was his petty cash five thousand dollars, which they had heard from other hustler bums that Navarro kept hidden in his Hollywood hills home. They tore the place apart ripping the pieces the mementos of his long career, which meant nothing to the greedy credence. Souvenirs drenched in blood. Anger details. Navarro's violent death without really dealing with who he was when he was alive up to this point in the book anger has only dropped breadcrumbs here. And there about the star including the claim which we teased in. Our Rudolph Valentino episode that Navarro kept the quote, unquote, art deco dildo engraved with Valentino signature in a shrine to the Italian star in his bedroom. Anger also claims that in nineteen thirty one novato entered a monastery to cover for the fact that he had been forced into retirement by talking pictures. But that's it. Anger says nothing else about Navarro his movies, what kind of star he was or what he did for almost forty years between supposedly retiring to a monastery and getting murdered in his home. So today in our final episode of fact, checking Hollywood Babylon we are going to fill in the blanks left, by anger and talk about who Ramon Navarro was the myriad reasons. His career waned somewhat later than the date anger gives how he navigated his seemingly contradictory religion and sexuality and the truth behind the grisly evening that ended his life. Join us won't you for one. Last fact, check on Ramon Varo. And
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"Earlier. Next week story is not as sad. But it does feature a suicide a murder and a public debate over whether or not the star of miracle on thirty fourth street had sex in a movie theater. Join us then won't you? Thanks for listening to you must remember. This. Today's episode was written narrated and produced by Karina Longworth. That's me our research and production assistant is Lindsay d Schoenholtz. Our social media assistant is Brendan Whelan. This episode was edited by Cameron Druze and our logo was designed by teddy blanks. For more information about this episode and other episodes, please go to our website, you must remember this podcast dot com. There. You'll find show notes for every episode with information about our sources music used and much more. If you like the show, please tell anyone you can any way that you can you can follow us on Twitter at remember this pod. And we're on Facebook and Instagram too and my book seduction sex lies and stardom in Howard Hughes's. Hollywood is available now from Amazon or your local independent bookstore. We'll be back next week with another tale from the secrets, and or forgotten histories of Hollywood's first century join us, then won't you? Good nights.
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"Just. To another episode of you must remember this the podcast dedicated to exploring the secrets, and or forgotten stories of Hollywood's first century, I'm your host Karina Longworth. And this is another episode of our ongoing series fake, news fact, checking Hollywood Babylon. This is news. This is totally unfounded gossip it's a long way from Hollywood, criticized dealing to frankly such themes as sex nudity Hollywood Babylon. In Hollywood Babylon Kenneth anger wrote extensively about one of his forebears in controversial gossip paddling, confidential magazine. I've talked about confidential often on this podcast and for the past year, or so I've been attempting to put together a complete collection of the magazine one EBay purchase at a time as we wind down our series of episodes, inspired by anger. We're going to do to episodes about the trial that affectively ended confidential magazine as a threat to Hollywood business as usual here is an edited excerpt from Hollywood Babylon. In nineteen fifty two a little magazine appeared on newsstands all over the country. This new offspring of yellow journalism soon became the talk of the town and confidential acquired a reputation as the worst kind of rag. But everyone read it, anyway, it's motto was tells the facts and names, the names confidential carried things further than any of the previous rumor mongers had done when into greater detail and did not hesitate to affirm that the stories at published were faithful account of the facts. The first issue did phenomenally, well and sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies at its peak confidential was selling four million copies on newsstands. A record for American journalism. With the success of the magazine, it's victims were increasingly those Hollywood luminaries whose private lives were of most morbid interest to the public thus excessive confidential enabled publisher Robert Harrison to pay up to one thousand dollars per gossip item. Assuring him a fine stable of spies. In fact, Vanu class of the organization was the bevy of pinup girls who would Dohrn the bars of sunset strip in bed. These high priced floozy received the confidences of famous stars. While a miniature tape recorder inside their purse left carelessly opened on the bedside table recorded by nights, the indiscretions devoured later, by avid readers this. Reign of terror lasted for four years while the success and obscenities of confidential increased with every issue there was practically no film star who escaped its revelations some were victims of a whole series of stories. Maryland Orson, Lana Eva, Frank, and Jane and -sconsin New York publisher Harrison made sure that each article was based on a piece of film or a tape recording evidence, which was checked by his shyster lawyers before publication, but with increasing success and no prosecutions he began to embroider truth with picturesque details and over reached himself. He became one of the most hated men in the country. It was not until February of nineteen fifty seven that a star. Finally, had the courage decide that enough was enough. Dorothy Dandridge filed suit against the magazine after an article appeared dealing with her alleged exploits enough forest in naturalist company Dandridge asked for two million dollars in damages with the firing of the first shots. The war was on dozens of stars who had been slandered filed suits. Today.
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