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The Stuttering John Podcast-November 10th, 2020

The Stuttering John Podcast

2:29:46 hr | 8 months ago

The Stuttering John Podcast-November 10th, 2020

"Dragon Ball. You never knew how to talk to bring the family and loved the Lord and Thursday. This is the movie Bird Box on the wall of apartment and turn hopes and that invitation is dead. But they will say the tire off and say as usual off catwalk and running them off off off. Off off off off off off. Off off off and seeing No No Grave. I love it. Thank you. The USA singers giving us their their rendition of the of the dotard that might get my green screen and here so I can get a little closer there. So it looks a little better. There we go. I don't know. There we go. Anyway, how's everybody doing today? Hello. Nikki. Be chest flexor Hockey Canada 25 J. Richard Custer shorty one electric Ajax stubbington, Scott Weiland, Amy Guerra Kim long as we keep on building the audience for the world-famous Stuttering John podcast. I have to say well we have some great guests coming on today. We have no Kessler who we all know and love he'll be on and then we will also have Jennifer Co nganh Cong to to tell us what's going on with all these dotard complaints and but before I do that, let me bring in my good buddy know kapler. How are you pal dead? What's up, Johnny? How you doing? Brother? Good. First of all, I congratulate you for helping us and take take Taking down the dotard how happy are you? I'm pretty happy with complain. You know, it seems like it was a long for years. So thanks for all you did and thanks for having me on so many times to to rant about who he really is. You know. Well, yeah, I know but now how long do you think about all this bullshit like this legal? You know, you know, he's I mean, we knew that he would not go gracefully cuz he cuz he doesn't have a mature bone in his body off. Exactly. And that's the problem. It's like I'm happy, but he he didn't let us celebrate. I mean Saturday was a beautiful thing and I happened to be in the city when people were dancing in the street, but I didn't really own now take part in that or do a Victory lap just cuz psychologically we're not free of him, you know, we can begin to tune him out. But like you said, you know, he's not he has no class so he didn't wage. Seed and he's got you know, he's got you heard what Pompeo said this afternoon, you know, he's got these horrible human beings Mitch McConnell and all these, you know, dudes that aren't I have a peaceful transfer of power. So they're denying us the peace of mind, you know? Yeah, but we knew a guy, you know, I always knew this was going to happen. I mean, I mean, it's just mean this is this is just who he is. He's like, you know what I mean? He's just like a little baby. He's a total baby. He's a total baby. And this is you know, what we're seeing now is what he's going to do for the next four years, you know, he'll eventually leave DC don't go tomorrow Lago. He'll start his radio show as TV show. Like I said on here a couple of visits ago, but he's going to need a less, you know, and he's also going to like and his sons is you know, Don Jr. And Kim Guilfoyle just said this morning like they're going to seize control of the RNC. So he's going to make anybody who tries to run for office in that party light off. Midterms and stuff come to Mar-A-Lago and kiss his ring, you know seek Their Blessings. So they're going to become like the Trump political crime family, you know, and they're going to make life hell, you know, we took the war but they're going to keep lobbing, you know, Guerilla Warfare tactics for the next couple of years just to instigate and foment trouble and that's a scary thing, you know, seventy million people did both know. I know I know that and and and but still I mean Joe Biden has so many that I mean, what does Biden up to like seventy seven million or something something the highest any anybody's ever received, you know? Yeah, so I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't see You know, I don't see any like like it's just such a shame. We don't have like a like a normal person, you know that could you know do this, you know what I mean? Like like it's such a shame that like, you know, you know, like every other president has stepped down gracefully except for this idiot. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean and it's doing a disservice to all Americans, you know, because we stand for something and people fought for this democracy, you know people's relatives and and forefathers died in wars so we could be sort of a beacon of democracy and we could show the world like this is not how you do it, you know, not with bullets, but with votes, you know, and then you shake hands and for democracy to work there has to be a loser. You know, that's how it works. You know, somebody has to man up and say you with you know, you weren't my choice, but I now wish you the best because I care about this country over party, you know, and and that's what he's doing. He's besmirching every American's name on the birth. National stage, you know, he's making us look like fools, you know to other nations. Yeah, but like, you know, but we can just you know, I mean, what do you think? I mean like, you know took a lot better than I do. Well, you know well equal. Well, I don't know it doesn't matter pretty well. Yeah. So what do you think is going through his head? I mean does he really believe that God, you know this election has been rigged or is he he lost? He definitely knows he lost, you know, the reports that are coming out of the like my overalls by the way. Yeah, everybody's commenting on them. I know they're the reports are coming out of the West Wing is that it needs are having to burn scented candles and stuff cuz he's eating so much fast food. Yeah, that's historical came out yesterday. So he's the guy I know he's sulking he's trying to nurse his wounds, you know, he's sitting there snorting Adderall and eating Big Macs and feeling sorry for himself, cuz that's what addicts do, you know addicts living wage. Self-pity, you know they just say, oh everyone's out to get me every oh, woe is me, you know, you got to be present. You didn't even want the job. You know, he hasn't taken a briefing since October first month. There's been nothing on his public schedule. He's not even doing the gig so he doesn't want the job. He wants the ego stimulation and the power and he knows he's lost that you know, however much they rattle their Sabers and you know have press conferences in front of pawn shops and Landscaping businesses, you know, they know they've lost Yeah, no, I know and it's just I'm just going to move the screen because it's just getting too crazy with the green screen. So the rest of the show, I'll have this screen screen in the back of me, but I don't care off. Yeah, and also because you know, I don't know why it's not working the you know the way but also there was my link if anybody wants to donate any you know off the pockets. Sorry, I was I was I was listening to Joe Biden speak today. So I was a little late so, you know, but but I had to hear like what he had to say when it came to Pompeo like look, you know and Mitch McConnell said he's not going to honor president-elect Biden until the Electoral College votes come in in December. I mean, they're infants. I mean the whole party is like like we're watching a bunch of infants. No, absolutely. We're watching immature, you know off Family stunted white men cuz that's predominately who's doing this, you know that are scared of losing their foothold on Democracy, you know, they're scared. They saw how many people showed up at the polls. They know how many African Americans showed up in Georgia, you know, they know their time is up which and emotionally mature person would be like welcome aboard, you know, you took a lead for a while we welcome your voice, you know, these are wealthy men. Anyway, like go skiing go fishing, you know do something else. You don't need claw and hold onto power, but that's a brand, you know, it's selling fear and aggrievement to a permanent sort of underclass of people that think they deserve more in life by the color of their skin, you know, and they deserve to hold somebody else down and not free ride is coming to an end, you know in a lot of ways. This is an extension of a war. We fought a hundred fifty years ago. You know what people like I don't want to work my own Fields. It's easier to buy another game. Human being and let him do it. You know, it's just sort of thing. I don't want a minimum wage, you know, I don't want to give Healthcare to somebody that's what this is all about, you know this anti-immigration stuff. They know our economy runs on immigration, you know, you don't want those jobs, you know, those people come in and bust their butts and it's not unskilled labor. If you've ever watched anybody in a field Gathering, you know crash and stuff. It's skilled as heck cuz they have to get a certain amount to get paid, you know, so these guys are they're doing it like it's insanely skilled labor. It's not unskilled labor that's an aside. But so that's what they're afraid of, you know, they're afraid of an economic model that's sold people, you know a superior a superiority and an easy way of life, you know life by taking advantage of other people and they know they're getting called on their bullshit and Trump is the champion of that, you know, and he's speaking to that working class and you would hope that that idea would be running its course and wage. Happened in this election last Tuesday was that we showed he picked up followers, you know more people got on board with that than did in the last election. And I guess that's why any celebration I have is is tempered with with the sad fact of that reality of just that there's so many people in this country that are so full of hate and and it's just I mean, I like I I talked to a very smart man. He's he's a republican but you know, I just said, you know, his name's John and you know, and he's like, you know, he's been a cameraman direct like in television figures I said, you know, and I said John come on, I mean, you know, you don't really buy into this, you know election fraud like, you know, it's rigged. I mean goes I just and then even this guy I just think that you know, he has the right and you know, everyone's been crapping on Donald ever since he was President wage. And you know, nobody showed up to his inauguration. I guess it means Obama did Obama show up to his inauguration on Obama. It's a good question. I don't know I Obama didn't dissing Obama did whatever you're supposed to do. Whatever the decorum is. I'm sure Obama did. Yeah, but the but then I was thinking about it and I'm going wait a second. Why should Obama show up after Trump was the one Champion the birth the Cause right? I mean like I mean, which was so freaking violent racist song Why would Obama show up like and I I didn't think it had because I don't want to argue it at the pub but I'm like I'm like, you know, he was he's been an asked to Obama this whole page like Obama's whole presidency was like Donald Trump complaining about Obama golfing and we all know what a forest status cuz Trump has got more than any any other modern-day president history. But I mean, why should Obama give him any respect? I agree. He shouldn't but he will just cuz you know showing somebody else respect shows that you respect yourself, you know, and that's nice. Comes down to Obama has self-respect. He composes. Oh, no, thank you. Steve and Carol and John Pelosi Obama was there and so was Hillary so that's just this is like the this is the fake news. I can't wait to see him again and go by the way, John Obama did show up to his inauguration and so did Hillary. Okay. So like, you know, I mean, but this is the choice to quote Joe Biden. This is the Malarkey that these people believe, you know, I know what you mean and that's the problem with you know, Fox News is pushing back, but that's the problem with Mitch McConnell and secretary Pompeo William bar kind of going along with this line of BS that everyone knows he lost. You know, there's not a slim margin of votes, you know, fighting turned four states against him Trump isn't sucking up that margin. So to go along with this like, you know institutionalized Propaganda, it turns these mines. So guys can sit in a bar and be like everyone was out to get him. No one was out to get him. You know, like you said Obama showed up a tradition as they ride in the black limo together up to Capitol Hill to the inauguration. So I don't I just I don't know what happened that day. But as I said Obama would have done whatever the tradition is Trump is now the one who's not going to do that tradition, cuz he's not going to acknowledge buying they're certainly not going to take a limo ride together, you know, the capital and and Trump will be in Miami by then. He'll be down at Mar-A-Lago by the by Thanksgiving I guarantee that he's getting out of d c but now here's here's the question. First of all, thanks for coming on know cuz I was you know, I was trying to get you on before the election and then you said that you wanted to lay low. Yeah and and which I you know, look look I always you know, I respect you and you know, I don't but but I appreciate every time they could do come cuz everybody they all love you. I'm sure yep. Every time on Twitter as soon as I promote a podcast, where's know it's like everybody cuz everybody loves having you on. So again, I appreciate it and I did talk I did have the Midas touch guys on and they you know, and they said, you know that they had had you on and I'm glad because those guys did Lords work by but I mean not only all their videos but also all of the you know behind the scenes texting and and took a mobilizing people to knock on doors. I mean, they did great work and don't forget know you and I had them on in the beginning they didn't let her husband had them on and they remember that you know, I did a few like get-out-the-vote appearances for like 5-10 minutes here and there and I did their SiriusXM show. I think the Saturday before the election or week before or something and that was the first thing they said, yep. That you guys got us on when we were just three brothers. Like no one that heard of them. There was that first the snake video ya number and you put them on and we talked to him and they were like kids, you know still kind of young but now they got Sirius XM microphones in front of them and you know, they've gone Hollywood. Yeah, I know but but God bless them and and the list project who we had on as well Rick Wilson exactly you were ahead of the time and and James Carville and I retweeted that James Carville like he's going to get his fat ass beat and he did. Yep. And you know that that one clip is up to like almost a million views which you know, which was great. I look like I think all the people like all those guys in Chicago Don Winslow who makes great films and what is it a reality American or really American American? Yeah. Yeah all those guys did great great work. And and and this is Jake. Celebratory, you know shows like where I have everybody on who contributed including yourself because it really is I think everybody really pitched in and did what they woke in and I dedicated this podcast for just this one simple reason of taking down the dotard and getting Joe Biden elected. So so, you know, I'm not patting just I'm patting myself on the back, but I'm thanking all the people like you and and you know, and and Jennifer Cohn is coming on a little later like everybody who really did their work log into into making sure that this was first of all a fraud free election and that we motivated everybody to vote keep in mind know the youth voted more than ever before it was like it was like unbelievable from nineteen to like, I think I saw something from 19 to 34 years. Or whatever 62% you know came out and voted, you know, and it's awesome man. Like I love that because they are the future of this country. They absolutely are and they took they spoke last Tuesday and they were celebrating. You know, as I said, I was in New York City and I saw those crowds and it was kids, you know, it was it was, you know late teens early twenties. I felt old job. I stayed gonna down the block and just watched it sitting in my car and I got a little teary-eyed, you know, cuz cuz they got to participate in democracy, you know, when we were kids it was like vote. Yeah, whatever, you know, we weren't genetically active. You know, George HW Bush like those first couple elections. I had Clinton I was excited about but it wasn't like existential threat life and death, you know, people weren't running out in the street cop and champagne after an election. So I think that that excitement and that desperation and the the fear, you know, that what happens if this guy doesn't get voted out it was a great job. Example of how important democracy is and the only way it works is if you vote and you know if it had been any other opponent, but Trump you would have had that celebration on Tuesday night, you know anybody else would have called and conceded, you know, it was only like Trump who was like I'm not going to admit he lost he knew he lost Tuesday night. He knew he lost Tuesday morning. You could see how dejected he was young. He went to the RNC. So everything basically from when the polls open until now has just been you know, a smoke screen and like one more like flatulent attempts to like appease his ego. It's just so it's so bizarre, but let me ask you like what I mean. Like I asked you ready, but what like what month is he like is he just like freaking out because you know, he's a loser and he hates being a loser like it's it's so deaf as I said before like birth. You saw him at that baseball game and everybody booed him. He cried a little bit, you know and I saw some photos of when he was coming back from the golf course on Saturday, which says it all right there the guys playing golf when he's like supposed to find out if he's president. Everybody else in America is watching TV for a week, you know, and he's at the golf course, but when he came back and was going into the White House, you could see that he was basically crying, you know, cuz he can't hold his emotions. Well, you know that for all his bravado he's you know, he's like you said, he's a spoiled little kid whose face turns red and he gets angry and he poops himself, you know, and he flails and tweets. So he he he's a Broken Man and he's going to lash out and you know, he he was mad at em, Zona and Fox News, you know, they were they were you know, he was completely like he couldn't figure out how like Fox News was going to tell the truth and not say like Trump one even though wage Didn't win, you know that was a shock to him. And if you saw that speech at 2:30 in the morning, that was as high as I've ever seen him, you know, Don Jr. And Eric were in The West Wing that night. They must have been hitting like, you know, pharmaceutical-grade marks cocaine or something. That wasn't just normal Adderall like his whole upper lip was numb. He was sniffing through the whole thing. And he was a psychopath. Here's a psychopath. Yeah. No, I mean and how badly is he screaming at his kids right now. Ya know everybody, you know, they stopped letting press into the West Wing on Thursday night and he hates Eric. He hates Don Jr. Would like it's funny that he's not making Ivanka go out there and say stupid stuff like that. He won, you know, she's kind of like showing her Allegiance off her and Jared are basically Mia, you know, like they know the ship is sinking and they're trying to figure out their next move, but he's making Don Jr. And Eric, you know, Eric Trump tweeted get out off. Alex Minnesota or go out and vote or something today. So he's he's slightly ahead and I'm the biggest idiot in the world, you know contest between him and his brother. But now he I guarantee you Trump is miserable to be around I guarantee you life as hell for all of those staffers right now and the only one who seems to really sort of like enjoy it is Kayleigh mcenany because I don't think she knows any better. I think she thinks this Power Trip she's on and we had her ex-boyfriend on this show. I know he told us yeah, the guy they were dating during this Administration. They've only been broken up for two years and she hated him she hated him and now she's like his chief bitter, you know, she's doing all of his propaganda Fox News cut away from her, you know that right Neil Cavuto cut away because it's just like they keep on you know doing this BS, you know voter fraud. It's all Like it's just amazing here is Donald Trump. He's the one who telling people to vote twice, which is a freaking felony. And and then now that he lost faith in square then he starts yelling about, you know, like it's just it's like mind-boggling know how well oh and let me get back to the you know Trump off at his kids because you witnessed that correct? Yeah. Absolutely. And Anthony scaramucci was just on I think last week and he and he acknowledged that Trump would always yep kids. He beats up on his kids beats up on he's abusive. He's an abusive father. He had an abusive father. He's an abusive father, you know, and I'm sure that like the tradition is getting carried on I you know, I don't want to talk about anybody's kids but like those children don't look that happy. Don't you if you ever see a picture of Don Juniors kids, they don't look like they like spending time with Daddy, you know, and so that's off. The cycle of abuse. So, you know, Don Jr. Hated his father cuz he abused his mom, we all know about that. He did horrific things to his mother pulled out her hair assaulted her Don Jr. Hated his phone now the whole time he was at and when he went to like Colorado and lived in his pickup truck and tended bar and did cocaine. He hated his father. Then he got his own like demons. You know, he he became his father essentially which is what happens. Like, I don't want to be an alcoholic and then you become an alcoholic. You become what you hate unless you acknowledge it so that whole family is a big cycle of addiction and abuse, you know, and it's getting meted out and real-time. You know, I guarantee you he's raging at the kids. He's raging at the staffers like he would rage at people on The Apprentice wage. He would accuse the script Department of setting him up cuz there's a three syllable word. You couldn't pronounce it and he would think there was a vast conspiracy know we're just assuming you're an adult who knows how to pronounce, you know, yep. Pretty moderate, you know over you know, yeah. No, it's it's it's just bizarre. Oh and could you could you explain to me? What happened with the Four Seasons Landscaping thing? I mean, I don't understand how the how the hell they make this kind of mistake. No. Yeah. I think it's going to be one of the big political mysteries of our time, you know off but I've read up as much as I can on it and I saw it, you know play out and I think they made a mistake. I think they said call The Four Seasons and get a press conference and like you said he's been raging on people so much then anybody worth their salt has probably already scattered, you know, cuz Tuesday night was a super spreader event, right? So so all these guys will get in covid-19 over there watching the results in the White House Ben Carson and Mark Meadows. So all these guys were getting sick, right? So if you're a competent staffer and you realize that by Saturday, you're like I'm staying home, you know, I'm self-taught. Right, so it was probably some scared Junior staffer PA, you know like and it's the same sort of pressure. I dealt with in live television who's getting yelled at set up a press conference, you know, 11:30 and the guy okay Four Seasons, Philadelphia, you know, boom and I doubt he even called ahead to either the hotel or the Landscaping. I think he just said, okay, it's booked at Four Seasons. Someone got the memo and then told Trump and he tweeted it out press conference coming up at 11:30 Four Seasons, right? And then someone said, hey, we're actually don't have the Four Seasons booked and they're not going to they're not going to rent to us at this hour and with this situation. So then he himself had to correct it Four Seasons Landscaping 11:30. That is just too freaking funny man. I mean, you can't write this crap. I mean it's this is like bulworth. I mean this is the comedy of wage This is the comedy of the century a four-year freaking comedy Fiasco not to mention that Rudy Giuliani is the one they're giving the speech and it also turns out there was a convicted sex offender home. I know you know, yeah and expose himself to eight year old girls, you know, and this was giuliani's big witness on voter fraud exactly. And so and that's Giuliani. I mean, it just shows you what a scam nine-eleven was not the the tragedy that was very much real but how Giuliani was given the benefit of the doubt as being America's mayor and this is sober adult he had one good press conference, you know, and the day was made a lot worse by his own ego, you know by the fact that he wouldn't give new radios to FDNY and he wouldn't take the you know, the the sort of Crisis Center and put it in Brooklyn like all the edge of the PDA and everybody told them too. So Yeah, it just shows you if you still believed in the myth of Giuliani. The reality of Giuliani was that guy standing in front of Four Seasons Landscaping next door to the dildo shop trying to tell you that votes don't count across from the morgue across from the crematorium. Yeah. Looks like a cadaver. Did you see like, what is that? That's what I mean. You can't write it though. It's like across the street from the crematorium and you got a vampire up at the Mike. It's crazy. I know death dead. Okay, I'm sorry. No, no, you go know and then Giuliani has the audacity to say because they say, you know Trump lost and then he goes who told you that he said all the networks. Oh gosh, we have to believe it. Yeah, right. Did you believe the Network's when they declared Trump winner and you freaking idiot tale of the mainstream media when he was America's mayor he dead. Being on the cover of Time Magazine my uncle's the one who wrote that article. It was the nation editor of Time Magazine at the time, you know, Giuliani love the media when he was doing his Victory lap and he loved making millions of dollars travelling the world talking about how he was a hero of nine-eleven, you know? Yeah, he want me to tell you when Giuliani story. I don't know if I've ever told this song. Yes. Yes, no doubt his wife Judith Hanami at the 911 memorial. You know, I would do all those memorials every year for like the first ten years after you know, after the tragedy we would do these things where children off of the you know, people who were lost would come read their names, you know, we'd read all mm names or whatever and it was a very somber event and I would work the VIP tent taking care of Hillary and you know, whatever dish various came we would have musical performers, you know, Giuliani was the only guy I ever saw a smile he would work the room smiling and I'm like, how are you smiling? There's little kids off. Reading their dead parents name like we're on the site where it happened. Like I actually had to stop doing it because the emotional weight was too much. You know what I mean? I just couldn't it was too triggering. You know, I was young New Yorkers just like too much. But anyway one morning his wife was like making eyes at me in the in the in the tank now and then comes up and starts talking to me and he comes over and like grabs her away and I took him say she goes who's that guy? You know and he's like he works for the mayor or something. Like what's up this like he's like and like he could tell like in there now, they're divorced and she was scammed from the beginning but it was just so funny to see it play out, you know, but that tells you everything you need to know about the guys that he was capable of smiling. On the morning of nine-eleven trust me you go anywhere near that place smiling is not something that no happening for about a day, you know, no but we are they divorced after you know, what is jumping like two years ago. You know, it was scamming him. He's a scammer. I'll tell you another story at the same area in the 90s 98. We did the Goodwill games. Remember Ted Turner had this life kind of Olympics thing. It was like a charity thing. Yeah, we had Jimmy Carter. That was the first time I met President Carter, who's the greatest guy young? We had George Pataki was the governor and that's right. And they were going to do like the it was the kicking off, you know, so they ring a bell or something and kick off the games and Giuliani was in this dressing room. We were using this is by the Winter Garden you remember do you remember down that that glassed-in thing, right? Yeah Leon. He's in there and he's in its make-up chair and I come in and I'm like, all right. Well, you know, we're ready for you now. Mr. Ah reason mayor at this point, you know, and he goes he's got a piece of paper. It's the script the sides we had given him right he crumples him up. He throws him out. He goes. I'm not up and going anywhere until you change those up in words right now and he's like screaming f-bombs like just spits coming out of his mouth and I'm like twenty eight years old. You know, I'm like, oh my God, he's nothing like I'm wearing a thing in my ear. You know, I already knew he was a fascist cuz I lived in New York, but I'm like this dude's going off on me and they're like no, where is it? You know, we're about to start. We got a lot of hitting free minutes get him down here and I'm like, oh, he won't go, you know, he says we gotta change the words, you know goes in there. Like tell them will change it on the teleprompter when he gets down here just bring him to stage and I'm like, hey, we'll change it down there, you know, and he's like, I'm not falling for that. You think I'm a fucking moron sorry to curse. So and just keeps going off and he wouldn't let he wouldn't get up out of the chair until we changed it in the script off. And brought up a different sides and showed him in writing that it was changed right now. You want to know what he took umbrage to it was a joke that they had written for him. And it said welcome to New York. It's a great City. Just don't jaywalk. Because he'd been cracking down on jaywalkers and people call them, you know Little Hitler and stuff cuz he was doing that. This was stored in the end of his mayorship before 9, you know, what was he so mad at that age because that joke, he thought made fun of him for being too harsh cuz he was known as such a crack down, you know, he cracked down on The Suite G guys and the whole so he thought that was a joke at his expense and took it as expense, but it was a minor joke at his expense and that's what you do. If you're a politician you take a little ribbing you're good, but that I tell that story because that shows the egomaniac idiots and I'll tell people this their Partners like Trump & Giuliani have been attached at the hip since the eighties, you know, there's a reason that like juliani clear the Italian mob out in New York City and broke them all up with Rico laws that was making place for the Russian mob right and now giuliani's the lawyer for the guy who's basically the front for the Russian mob and the White House, right? So they they've been attached forever but off I I get to in a tangent. I forget where I was going to go over that we're about it happens to be all done. But I tell people here like having known both of those men and I lived across from Gracie Mansion after nine-eleven when Giuliani said like oh the air is safe to breathe, right and I would look down my window. I lived on the 20th floor and he would get out of his SUV every night with a mask on like in October and November so and you could smell it cuz it would come up the East River up by Hills gate. You know where Gracie Mansion is on East are so you could smell it even six weeks later. You're smelling all these burning computers and you're like no way is that good to breathe, you know, they don't really like, oh, it's fine. Go to work. There's like hell no, that's like eighteen million computers burning not I live downtown. And yeah, it's you know it smell and and the smoke was over a long time exactly and where we lived, you know, cuz it was a mild fall we would open the windows right at night to sleep. So every morning the winds change if you know Hell's Gate that's occurring that wrong. Both ways up the East River. It runs out to Long Island Sound that it runs out to you know, Sheepshead Bay and all that. You know the New York Harbor, right? So when the winds and the tides shift at 3:30, our room would would fill up with that smell every night and I'm waking up in the middle of night smelling like burning flesh in computers and it was horrible, right? So I was very acutely aware of it and every night I would want when he came home and his SUV and he was wearing a mask until like November and I remember thinking then like he's telling people it's safe to breathe, but he knows something we don't, you know, he's wearing a mask cuz he knows it's not safe to breathe. Yeah telling people it's safe. So that's the kind of guy he is he's he's worse than Trump in many ways, you know, if if he had ever gotten to be president like he wanted to suck he would have made the last four years look like a cakewalk. Oh my God, I mean that I mean he is just a he's a piece of work. What do you think of him? And you know in that Borat tape watch him, you know, that's him. He's also a creepy perv, you know, I mean and you know, he was pulling his PUD, you know, you know any know he'd done it before you know, that's what I thought like how many times did he get away with us? Cuz when people get busted on something like that like he knew the deal, you know, he was like, okay cuz that probably happens every time he goes over to Ukraine, you know to get like dirt for Trump or something. He's probably you know, he's probably getting handled by Foreign agency cuz he's he's sort of been promulgating like Russian disinformation. So they know how to handle him, you know, they have dossiers on people and they're like this old drunk likes to get his PUD, you know, his published by journalists and then hot journalists and give them a hand job and it'll be even more amenable to spread in our lives cuz that's what he looked like cuz she was born right? Yeah. She was so she had an accent. So that's what I'm saying. Was doing something that he had done successfully before. Yeah, like what? I don't know what to do, you know like your first time at a rub and tug you like do I turn over now? He wasn't like do I turn over New Jersey? Yeah. I have to ask you wait. I'm going to ask you this but don't answer yet because I just got to do my sponsors and and and page says I have a new sponsor know nice. Okay, and and so so, you know, I love this is like awesome, but hold on. Hold on. Let me just do this first and first again everybody. 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No well, I'm going to get you get to the big question soon, but watching and listening to bite and speak even today like just got like very calm, you know, and just very like, you know talking about the same day and how most I think seventy percent of Americans want to keep Obamacare and the Supreme Court is now deciding on it. And it's just like I mean, he's like, how how could you take away health care for for Americans during a pandemic? Right? I mean, it's it's absurd the GOP is just it's just awful awful people. So I mean, you know, what do you think of that? Well cruelty is the point, you know, it's about being cruel and yeah taken away during a pandemic is not only you know as mean-spirited as it gets it's dangerous to National Security, you know, because you take it away mean it multiplies even more and more over a hundred twenty thousand cases a dead. Now, you know so people don't have health insurance. They're not even going to get treated or they're not going to tell anybody they have it cuz they want to keep going to work, you know and lose their work-based health insurance, you know, no longer guarantee or they know they won't get health insurance again, if they have a preconditioning, you know, a pre-existing condition which Cove it is like you get covid-19. You have a chronic health issue because it affects your lungs and your heart and your brain for the rest of your life, you know, people aren't talking about that. It's not as Ben Carson said cuz he got some special treatment and he felt better right away. It's not the flu. You know, it's not whatever Trump pretended. I've known people like that were healthy that died quickly, you know Broadway dancers and stuff. So it will kill you and take it away is is what they're trying to do, you know, the long game here. I don't know how deep you want to get into it, but McDonald's doing the bidding for the Koch brothers, you know, and their ultimate goal is having like a serfdom, you know, yep. On and off like a certain amount of people that control the wealth and control the factories and an inexhaustible supply of workers, you know, that's why I like they're against abortion and stuff cuz they want a lot of low-income people without health insurance or much of an education because that's the perfect people to exploit, you know, and you don't care if they live or die because there's always a bunch more coming up that are going to be so desperate that they need that job in that factory for low wages. And that's you know, that's the economic model that capitalism was built on in a lot of ways and then unions came along, you know, and the Democratic party and people said know if you work you have a right to a livable wage, you have a right to healthcare. You have a right to a happy life. You have a right to send your kids to college, you know, and that's what they're fighting against. You know, what they want to take away Social Security. I know their whole lives they want to eat cat food, you know, because it's the cruelty and you know an uneducated unhealthy. Population is not a threat. You know and that's what we saw with trumpism. You know, he was number one. I didn't go to I don't have a college degree, you know, but he didn't he so I'm not getting besmirching him. But he's popular amongst people that aren't well-educated, you know, a lot of the reason a lot of his support is on the coasts and the big cities is cuz that's where people go to after they get some semblance of a liberal arts Humanities education, you know, they realize hey the cards are kind of stacked against them, you know minorities and stuff and let me do my part to help them because we're all better if if we're a stronger Society, you know, they use socialism. Like it's a break at work social democracy is not only how Trump's family made their Fortune cuz his father got FHA no interest loans after World War Two and that's how he built his apartment buildings. You know, that's all thanks to Roosevelt's New Deal. So that's Democratic socialism, but I've been too social, you know democracies, you know, as I'm sure you have in Scandinavia, you know, you go to these countries, they're not bumming. They're staying Instead of living is so far superior to ours said Mark. I've been to Denmark a bunch of times and they love their lives they do at last time. I was in Denmark. My hotel was next to a thousand train station, right? I looked out and like it was rush hour and all these people came on their bicycles, right? Yep. Everybody had like a $2,000 like awesome bike, right and nobody locked their bikes up. There was two thousand great bikes and nobody locked up right and then we went to the gig and like there was a backstage door, right? It was Crosby Stills and Nash and I was like, hey, yeah, I was the road manager. She was like, hey, can we get off on that door or security guard or something guys, like why and I'm like so nobody breaks and he goes. Oh, no, there's a sign do not enter and I said a sign and they said yeah, if you tell people not to do something that's not going to do it in this country. Like they don't steal. They're not desperate. You know like you don't have to lock your doors. You don't have to lock up your bike. It's going to be there when you come home from work because people aren't desperate because they have a minimum they have food to eat. They don't they have very little homelessness. They have health care, you know, they have sane ways to deal with drug addiction. It's not criminalized, you know, it's treated for the medical problem. It is so all that comes from social democracy. So when you hear this BS like, oh, it's Cuba, you know, it's South America. That's not what we're talking about. It's not that kind of corrupt Marxism, you know, so and I'll tell you I know my mother who enjoys the show is smiling right now. Say hi to my mom. Her name's Osa. Hi Elsa. She is smiling because she woke, you know, I mean she is from Denmark all her sisters and brothers are in Denmark and it's just like and it's it's it is a great freaking country, you know. Yep. And over there, I love I love all of Scandinavia and you know, yeah. No, it's awesome. I need a ruby. Thanks for the five bucks. She loves to show. I mean, it's just amazing. So here is my question that I've been I have so many questions for you know, because but Will trump attempt to leave the country before January 30th. That's a good question. I I kind of highly doubt that because all of his his economic base is here, you know, like his people that donate to them have to be here, you know, he has to have like an easy way to get the contract current campaign contributions what she's still asking for and he'll pretend he's going to run again or Don Jr. Will announce you shown so that he can't do that. You can't I don't believe you can send those with that kind of money overseas. So if he flees the country he's going to get cut off from his supply chain of cash down. And he's only valuable to his handlers and Russia as a money launderer in the United States, you know, he'll fly to Russia and they'll be like we don't need you here dumbass. We need you in Florida. You know what so he can buy some, you know, we can buy condos and you can clean our money. So and then also kill him, you know, like let's be real like he's a moron and he doesn't see that as soon as he's not useful to them. They need to be done with him. So I don't see where he would safely go. So I think he's going to stay in Florida and he's going to hold up in Mar-A-Lago and I think sdny. I'll try to go after him and I don't think I don't think they'll be able to and I'm not a legal expert and I know you have Len kirschner and all these guys on here that are top of their, you know, top of the food chain legal Minds. I just say that based on age being eighty years old at that point or he's 74 an hour, right? So they bring charges 7576. He's going to be like f u make me cuz that's the trunk model. You got to understand. He's gotten away with everything. His whole life. He's got a a rape case against him now as president where they're like, give us your DNA and he's like no make me, you know, go to the Supreme Court. So what are they going to do? Like home go down tomorrow. I'll go and drag him out as much as people say they're going to do that. They they won't do that. Well that well, I have to say I hope you're wrong know cuz I would love love to see him in his office on and in jail. Thanks for the five bucks. Thank you. Great guests. Love your show, John. And yeah, I mean, it's just it's just like so long I would just drive me crazy. If if he's not I mean but side Vance isn't he going to you know, isn't he's like, isn't he going after him? Yeah and Letitia James, you know, who's not that she's nobody to try for with so they're going after him. I just, you know, I don't have that much. Hope I had hoped that he'd get voted out and he did and he will leave. I know he'll leave the White House You know despite off. Pompeo and all these idiots he's going from there, but I don't have so much hope in New York that that they'll really hold him to account just cuz he's never been held to account. If you look there's a guy named James Arthur wrote a book about the four thousand cases against him, you know, so the amount of malfeasance in that guy's bio and the amount of cases that he's wiggled his way out of you know, even if they took after him he gets to hold it up and Discovery and file motions and I think he can run out the clock. You know, though. I'd love to see him, you know in an orange jumpsuit and I know people love to say that I'm I'd love to be wrong, you know, and I'd love to be pleasantly surprised but he's a guy who's gotten away with everything his whole life. He's 74 years old. He just got voted out of office and he's sitting there going. No, I didn't lose them got people willing to go along with them, you know, not just people he's got the leader of the Senate, you know, and the Secretary of State and the Attorney General of the United States going know he did win and we're going to shut off. You he won so he's not alone in his criminality, you know inside Vance let his daughter off. You know, the Soho Trump was a bunch of charges, you know, she was inflating the cost and they were lying about these condo, you know, and she she had a big case against her, you know, and they made a donation decide Vance and he dropped the case. So, you know Trump's business affairs involve other people in New York other wealthy developers, you know, and and we don't know how big a mess. He's about to make you know, so there's always going to be some kind of bargaining, you know, if he behaves himself and goes to Mar-A-Lago they might be like look stay there. You can do your radio show, you know, just stay out of New York or something and you might accept that deal, you know, yeah, you know what before I bring in a fraud expert Jennifer Cohen, I do want to just say that this is the fifth. This is the fifth anniversary of my father's passing so dead. You know, you know he died on November 10th five years ago. And and and I just wanted to say Dad. I miss you and I love you when he's been proud of you this year job. Yeah. Yes. I'm sorry as he he was always there. Like I mean, he was always so proud of me like he would tape every Tonight Show that you know, and and and every time I would wait he would wave back. I mean, yeah, so and you know, he he put me through college, you know, he paid for NYU which is which is where he graduated from but it's an expensive school. So I just want to say Dad. I love you and I miss you and now let's bring it you're going to hang around, you know, yeah. Okay. So here is Jennifer Cohen? How are you, sweetheart? I'm fine. How are you? Good. I'm hearing myself. No, no, okay, it's good now. All right, you're going to have a sound problem again. I hope not. I'm sorry. No, it's just I heard. But like do you hear me on that? No, can you hear that? I can hear you guys? Yeah. I heard a little back. It's like a Like it's like it's like it's like the static from signs. Hm. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. Okay, I don't have a great. I don't have a great Studio said the sign just looks good. But beyond that you don't want to see well, I'm sure you know, no no casler. Oh, I do it's good to see it's been a while. I just really Jennifer. Yeah on what I don't know. I know that's how it feels right. Well you do. I actually am feeling almost grieving would be too strong. I'm just I'm not celebrating like a lot of people. I don't know. I'm really worried still but maybe that's just my personality. Hopefully, it's good. I mean, it could not worse. I mean, I'm you know, it could be a lot worse right where we are right now. I'll tell you what. Can you just Talk Amongst yourselves for a second? I just got to get my charger from the other room. Okay, Jennifer. I was like not celebrating. You know, I was watching the people celebrate and I was happy for them. But you know, it's tempered with so much malfeasance, you know, and a lot of the things we want people about we saw happen, you know, I was just reading today you were talking about Digital memory cards, you know in awesome. Yeah. Yeah the rear the rear memory card error in 2017 and John all substrates Karen Handel. Yeah, the Republicans thought about that. What's got me upset? I mean several things I'm thrilled that Biden appears poised to actually be sworn in in January. I am what I'm upset about though is that we still don't have evidence based elections, which is a faith that was coined by Professor Phillips dark at UC Berkeley, which means it would it really requires a reliable paper trail, which is every everywhere which is hand marked paper ballots plus robust post-election managing all audits not dog and pony show spot-checks plus crucially a transparent demonstrable be transparent and secure chain of custody between election night and the audit or the receipt of the belts and the audit and we don't have that and with that leaves us vulnerable to is and I said this for the last couple of years, so I didn't know by any means invent the phrase evidence based off that people when they read his work there like aha because when you don't have that you are vulnerable both ways, if you have propagandists on the other side, like really evil like like Dealing with with their current Republican party and what it does is it means you can't when you win they will delegitimize it and you can't I'm not talking about in the court of law. I'm talking about the court of public opinion. She can't prove that you're one was legitimate, even if it was so your stubble neurable to what we're seeing now, which is baseless claims of cheating from a party that itself blocked any move toward evidence-based elections suckling election security legislation specifically the Safe Act which at least when it required the robust manual audits then even then when you lose which we did lose many Senate races in unexpected with unexpected redshifts by which I mean the results are far far to the right of the polls. You can't prove that fraud occurred. So you're screwed both ways and you really screwed both ways only if you're dealing with it really truly bad faith actor that's you know, a master at propaganda. But that is what we are dealing with and I am just sick about the prospect of four years where Especially if we lose the Georgia Center races, which I have got hope to God we want but I am sick of four years. We're all we're going to be hearing about now is how Biden's one is illegitimate. That's all the the Republicans are going to talk about and they're going to run on it and it is infuriating because they're the ones who killed the Safe Act and the Democrats though. Frankly. I'm a big thank God they at least thought that but they didn't message it hard enough because now they're going to be in a very difficult position to talk about evidence-based elections when they have you know, an entire political party claims. There's no evidence to suggest that Biden really one and it is flipping the burden of proof. But that is what I've always argued for is you should be able to prove and a win is legitimate. And again, I'm not even speaking of in a court of law necessarily need legislation to require that but the court of public opinion and it is doable if you pass legislation requiring it But we didn't do it and we don't have it. And so I just see us in this they're gearing up, you know, and I saw some pole and I hope it's wrong. I saw some pull that 70% of Republicans think this was not a legitimate election what the actual fuck it was the Republicans who blocked it's a fact it required manual audits. It is the Republican their dejoy postmaster who did Shady Lady with the vote-by-mail. We're in the Battleground states. There was like a 10% deficit in return rates of the mail in the Battleground states that more Democrats were voting by mail than Republicans. So if anybody should be scrapped fraud it is the Democrats, but they won't do it because now and especially now they won't do it because they don't want to add fuel to the fire of Republicans delegitimizing what wins we did get off but let me ask you just like sick actually and I know celebrating to an extent and I'm relieved I guess somewhat, but I'm not celebrating I'm stressed out. Okay, wait while but I'm stressed out. But why are you stressed? Are you stressed that they're not going to let Biden win? I haven't looked enough to see from what I know their lawsuits are failing. I am stressed about the Republican propaganda machine. That is I don't I'm stressed. We won't win the Georgia Senate races. If we wanted to purchase Senate races, I guess maybe be okay, but at least for a while we'll have a respite. I mean, I think although I worry that the Democrats even then haven't learned a lesson which is that we need evidence-based elections because vote-by-mail is not a fuel recall when you asked me about it before it is not evidence-based either that doesn't mean that there is wide scale cheating and I think it is harder to wide-scale Dodge Jeep. In fact, I think they there is a significant possibility the Republicans oppose vote-by-mail because it's easier to do they both involve hackable Electronics in person and vote by mail. There are hackable Electronics worth used for both. They we don't conduct manual audits for either not meaningful ones. They both send their totals to hackable County Central tabulators, but two things vote-by-mail does have hand marked paper ballots, if you can ever get to look at them, which we typically can't and maybe more importantly for the selection. I don't know. I am speculating but electronic poll books have had me worried for a long time as you know, and I did there was a is a form of Rome. An election official who made a point of telling me that at least with 10x and I cannot imagine it's not true with knowing can the other major vendors they can watch in real time as voters are signing in at the home and they literally can watch their signatures going in and there's even with 10x apparently like a URL or a website where they can all watch to see what the turnout is at every polling place. And again, we have partisans running these electrical book vendors just like the voting machine vendors, but what that does is it can tell people if you have a mostly in person election, it can tell Bad actors in real time where the vote padding is needed and off and they can do it and they can also add fake voters. By the way if they hack or you have corrupt insiders, you can add big signatures to the elect if they're electronic you can add them to the electronic poll books, especially if you have lists of Voters who rarely vote and they don't turn out and it's the end of the day you could do that with in-person voting vote-by-mail would derail that and that is one possible scenario. Bye-bye. Bad at factors might prefer vote-by-mail, even though neither one is evidence-based which means that both of them have some openings for about actors. I'm just I don't see us moving toward evidence-based elections. And so and I see I'm frustrated. There's a very high-profile Democratic politician who canceled interviews with me twice, which is fresh. I mean a very very very high-profile Kratts and be the one that killed me. The most is the one before the election because that is when I could have talked much more freely about evidence-based elections and this politician could have done the same and the need for it. And now in the aftermath is person canceled on me again, and I don't imagine I'll ever be booked any time soon because everyone's too busy celebrating vitamins win and nobody wants to talk about polls in an election system when we got, you know, our Hitler out of office possibly, hopefully Nobody wants to do that it really bad Catch-22. And I personally just because I'm one of the only people whose messaging this and I don't have that kind of boost. I don't have a blue checkmark. Thank God you guys have me on your show your awesome, you know, I can't keep doing this for another four years at least without funding of some sort and I did not know how to speak that and I don't even particularly want to and I don't know. I'm just I'm depressed. I see Jennifer look, look, I'd rather be in the place that we are now than the place that we were at before the election, but we should have won the fucking Senate. I'm sorry and that's what pisses me off. I'm so angry about it. I'm sorry. That is what fucking suck have some hope it's not but but what she said Jamie Harris, I don't believe legitimately lost, you know, and we're not going to know Susan did either I don't I don't know if I don't have that belief particularly, but I am fucking pissed that I have no way to investigate it. I'm angry and you know, we do have my protect our votes project where we collected full tapes. We had six hundred photographers were going to compare Precinct totals to report a totals if they don't match maybe we can get some traction out of it that by the way that type of very comparison is the one happened one time in going against them. Trump and that is the one thing that they're blowing up over freaking Dominion voting, you know saying that they needed a national recount and they're going to run with that for the next four years when God knows how many of the similar types of things have gone the other way and they haven't given a crap and frankly neither has a Democratic party. And so anyway, we're going to be looking for those but I have no idea if we'll find any because we didn't by any means six hundred photographers is nearly the amount of coverage we needed thank God for the 600 tog refers who actually went out there. We had over a thousand signed up, you know, I expected attrition. Maybe we'll find stuff that'll give us some traction on some of those Senators work in Texas. They don't even post their Precinct total. So you can't even do that type of analysis will we ever be able to win in Texas? We have nothing to work with we need election records. We have nothing. Well, don't you think that now that the advocate I am distraught as someone who wanted shitler out of office God I never used that word. So I hope you don't, you know, pull that pull up. Someone really want to drop out of office. I'm glad and I'm hoping it sticks but as some the Senate races, I just can't celebrate because of the Senate races. I guess. That's what it is. Yeah, I juice even if we wouldn't if we went in Georgia, oh, yes, I'll be celebrating except out. I'm still going to be irritated because everyone's going to think that vote-by-mail is a Panacea and it's really not we can't continue to have elections that are not evidence-based unless we can find a way to make I'm going to you know, I'm going to do something to cheer you up now, okay, because I need you to be cheery. So, thanks to Cheri Jacobus Siri on demand. But okay what? Here you go. I'm going to you know, you know, you know, I'm going to cheer you up here. Hold on a second. I just got to get this thing going. Hold on. I'm trying to get it in full-screen. Just just bear with me for a second conference at the Four Seasons. Okay. All right. So hold on here. Is that is that in full screen there know? Why is it going low there? Hold on. All right, I can see the lower half of her face off. I know but it's it's really good. Hold on. All right. Okay, you're Hampshire man, like leasing over the fact. Hold on. Give me a second because I don't know why it's not it's good. Just thought you got it. You got it. All right. There we go. Go. Cheer on demand. Here we go. Feeling better already. I don't know why it's freezing over the fact that yesterday Trump said they were holding a huge press conference wage Four Seasons Hotel and then they accidentally it did. Four Seasons total landscaping and Rudy Giuliani, okay. Okay, I'm going to have to repeat that one. That is not I know it's been a long day. But I really don't like that. We're breezing over the fact that yesterday Trump said they were holding a huge press conference at the Four Seasons Hotel and then they accidentally There you go. Come on. Come on, that's gotta cheer you up a little and that's good. That does cheer me up a lot. Actually. It's just I can't stand to see its face and Mitch McConnell's Facebook page. I can't stand it and I can't stand another four years of people pointing out all of these anomalies and there's nothing we can do with it cuz they don't move it technically, but they don't prove it but But we can't get it. All right here looking at Lindsey Graham. I don't didn't want to ever see his face again. I know I know and I and you know both know when I met are just as angry about that as you know, as you are but here's I'm going to give you some good news the Midas touch Boys Huntington. Okay. O massage. No, are you kidding when I started doing the show? You were the first person I said to John to put on I can't do great work and I get your president is a. Victor. You know what I mean? We we sort of got a chance to pop champagne and danced in the streets. I wasn't because nothing really changed. I mean by boss is going to be you know, like you said he's half the country is going to think he was an illegitimate president, you know, and if we don't honestly if we win Georgia Senate I will be dancing it will And then be kind of like bummed out that it could have been better like heavy when those other one of those other Senate races and and all that but we would have more to work with will have a lot more to work with I guess until the outcome of that race and it's so far away from here and and and I'm just trying I'm trying to give you some hope here the Midas touch I never without hope I'm just bouncing in the streets. I'm just I'm stressed out. All right. Well, here's the deal the miners incredible depth. I'm sorry. I just interrupted you but I have followed that was where I really kind of got my feet wet. One of my very first friends it may even have been the first one that I thought, you know, my version of viral was like twelve hundred retweets, but that's pretty good and it was early on it was Georgia. It was their shity system which they have a nice place, but for another suspect should be system and now we're in a position of Defending it because Republicans are saying right. Well, I have opposed to public into trying to fire the, Georgia. Right sector statement he's awful. He is awful he can go but they're not seeing what they're not asking for something good in to replace it with I'm worried. They're going to want to try to replace it with the previous Avengers, which is e s n s whose machines make black votes disappear that the Democrats never made a fuss over and nobody made a fuss over that was the previous vendor. That's the one, you know, Jon ossoff in the rear memory card error and they lied about remote access to their County tabulators. Not in Georgia. I don't think they had it there that I know of but in general this vendor about all kinds of stuff and it lost wages votes inexplicably 127000 in 2018 in Georgia, and also in Shelby County, Tennessee and Georgia that electron everyone's going to be talking about problems with vote-by-mail and we need to keep her eye on those machines. But our Democratic leaders are not in a position to help us and okay. Okay, so hold on a second. Okay. Now you talk the minors touch boys have a well-funded they are going in Georgia now and doing Grassroots, you know campaigning for both Democratic senators in Georgia. Now, keep in mind now in faith in the runoff Trump is not on that ballot anymore. And the good news is that a lot of people don't are going to show up and go well Trump lost off. So now you know what, you know, you know now let me focus on these, you know on the senate race and I think that we have a good shot to at least take one of those seats if we get one then it becomes even and guess who decides everything. Wow, that your vice president great. What we need is one and if that happens in, Harris will be the deciding vote, office hours will pick the new Senate Majority Leader and that then we all right that will be freaking awesome. You're right. That's awesome. All right. Well, that's good. So I really hope that's what kills me too, though. Obviously, this is what kills everyone is. Of course, we should win it. I think demographically we win it easily. It's only because of shenanigans by Republicans that it might even be in my in my totally unscientific opinion that it might even be closed. I just refuse to believe that this much of the country is is I know there are certainly is certainly at least 30% wage is this horrid but I I don't believe that it's 40% or 50% I just don't I just maybe I just can't but the queue on people who won. I don't believe it. I just can't believe it off. No, I won't I don't know but but you're crazy but you're better than that. Well look, you know like it takes it takes a while for the World to Change and it always has and it always will but I think I think I think with biting an offense in you know in office and this is the thing that I think all of us should be happy about is that it'll end trumpism as far as politics. Yeah, you're going to have the right-wing lunatics, you know saying it was fraudulent but you know with a lot of my friends who voted for Trump are like Biden one, that's it. And a lot of those people are going to be like fighting one enough Trump is a baby. I think I don't think it's going to be as bad as you think it was don't forget that when Trump became don't forget that when Trump became president and and we all all three of us are still saying off. That boat that election was a little, you know, a little shady. So I mean, you know, you know, that's a good way to put it. Yeah. No, but I'm just saying so long it's not going to affect Joe Biden and Joe Biden, you know, he's above this. Oh agreement is all Georgia. And you know, I should be in some ways excited. I mean no one has written more about the problems with Georgia elections. Then yours. Truly. I mean, honestly, I'll send you my charger piece but it stopped before the purchase of this new equipment everyone expected them. By the way to buy esns. Everybody did and there were ties between the Georgia Secretary of State and the and in e s s as lobbyists I think and you know esns donates $3,000 to the Republican State Legislative Council and then they switched and I do think I mean, we don't really know why they're a couple of things number one the hundred twenty-eight thousand missing black votes from ESS systems. They did not want a forensic analysis and there were lawsuits pending over that. So I I feel like I am Wanted to take the heat off of them themselves and why all those black votes vanished as much as they could and so that may have been part of it was all happening at that right at that time when they talk shows surprised Everybody by choosing Dominion instead. I have no fan of dominion either by the way. Yes Ness is more overtly corrupt be they've been around a lot longer too and they have more overt partisan ties. Although apparently he has some as well but they chose Dominion it's in there apparently incompetent. Their system has had did have some problems but a few there are there are lobbyists was Brian Kemp's Chief of Staff up through like 2015 and then they they're they're lobbyists worked donate and there are other lobbyists worked for the Georgia Secretary of State. I believe the reference Burger guy, or maybe it was also Camp. Maybe I think it was also for camp and then their partner knowing is run by a former Republican election official they do the electronic poll books and his home. Wife donated to the Georgia Secretary of State before they chose chose the system and so it's all icky. And yeah, I am encouraging vote-by-mail rather than those touch screens and not there's a court order to use hand Mark paper ballots in person which case I might change my mind and less because well, let me look it in person voting too but in California I voted, you know on the screen then it prints it out and then you get to see it to make sure that's all your choices. Then you you know, she continued and then it sucks it back in So are those good machines? Are they bad with you? It's no bueno. No bueno bad bad machines. Let me ask you this month. How much time did you spend going from the top of the ballot to the bottom of the ballot to make sure races weren't deleted or flipped or anything. And did you notice a QR code or barcode at the top? No, I didn't notice barcode. But I did go back and forth. Yeah, I mean that's just me bring it to the printout page when you went back and forth to all the all the votes that I made. I mean, you know, I have like example that you know, but I'm sitting the memory I have a bunch of that month even fill up Stark who is you know, PhD and like the most prominent election auditing expert in the country even his memory is not good enough job to remember, you know District or county assessor to memorize the name of who he voted for for County Assessor and some of these places are many of them. Maybe most don't even put party affiliation on a printout. So you have to have the name memorized in order to memorize for anything, you know past the first couple of races you have to have had the name memorized any if you stood in line for three or four or five hours or you going to do that. Is it a lot of these, you know Urban centers those are the types of lines that they are dealing with and the chances that they are taking the time to look down that ballot. Also deleting races. Would you notice if the trash assessors race was deleted would you notice if the judge you know, the judge race keep calling? I got a Judicial race was deleted a lot of people would not and when they do or like that there's no vote for a lot of people might not notice that and I don't know you get the calibration issue. So like in South Carolina there were reports of touchscreens that did not give Jamie Harrison as an option and the problem is we weren't able to do anything with it because it was sort of investigated by some a woman at the Democratic party called me and they were looking into it and they think that would it had to do was confusion that voters had with straight time voting where it automatically selects anything. But if you really really wanted to devote for Jimmy Harris and maybe you punched it again and that it looked kind of like it was selected cuz it would still be highlighted but the check mark it would be the only race highlights job. The check mark would be gone. Maybe that's what it was, but nobody really knows and the descriptions. So they're just I would just not know. I don't like touch screens at all. No, no, no, no, no, no studies showed that ninety 3% of inaccuracies on those printouts, which is either deleted races or flips go unnoticed by voters that was done by the University of Michigan last year. Ninety 3% Well and if there's a problem, you can't prove that it was you making a mistake. It was the Machine versus you made the mistake, you know, and I know that you know, these things have to be and I and I'm sure Joe Biden is going to look into all this stuff. I mean, you know, the Democrats are going to look into this. I mean you don't need the agenda. I think Ron Wyden. Well, he already did he did he's the one who wrote the state-backed Amy Klobuchar tried to sabotage it as far as I can tell so, she doesn't get it and she's you know enamored of touch screens and vendors and dog and pony show security pretend security. So I'm a huge fan of Ron Wyden. I'm not a huge fan of most others on this issue, Harrison versus a fax. So yeh. I I was actually that made me a fan when you're sort of a one. I'm not only one issue but that is my you know, big issue is on a bit of a litmus test for me. I mean, of course, I would be reported Amy Klobuchar, but I was not pleased with her I much preferred Kamala Harris as a DP for that reason. Cuz she gets it and have my paper ballots not the machine marked found out but I'm really worried about this whole book combination, you know, they're using internet connected electronic poll books to activate those touchscreens you're talking about and we don't remember we don't get audits. For the most part we don't get any chance. So you're have a system which is they they're sending they could potentially send who you are as a vote or to the voting machine which then calculates off boats and then we don't audit it so that paper even if you reviewed it. What good does it do if you don't know one looks at it ever it's not what's counted as your vote is the bar or the QR code at the top and no mam. Let me ask you a question. I mean all these dumb cases that they're doing ten or at least ten of them have been thrown out and I mean really the only one that they could they could do to recount in his Georgia, right? Is it everything else? Like, you know, they'd have to get some kind of I don't know if they're beyond the percentage. It's usually a half a percent of it to be automatic. You can still go to court and ask for a recount but you the burden of proof is on the plaintiff which by the way is something I've wanted to change but I really they have there's a doctor and you know called unclean hands off. One has unclean hands into the GOP and Trump their hands are freaking filthy. So for them to go into court and say that they shouldn't have to carry that burden of proof when they undermined, you know, evidence-based elections is going to be a tough sell thought, you know, They may try unless they come up with something. They could try to plant evidence I guess but it seems like they didn't have a very coordinated. Sufficiently coordinated cheating operation in place to pull it off totally. Well, right, right. All right. All right, but here's and here is a real problem. And and I'm Louis de Joy. He's gotta be he's gotta be investigated because he feared that something could be that the Democrats I think are blowing it may or maybe I'm just missing it may be that our our calls for his investigation or maybe maybe the Democrats think we need to wait until we win so that we can actually do it. I think I'm going to investigate him because he he delayed the mail. So that's why I'm saying in the Battlegrounds was like 10% lower delivery rate. It was like percent right before the election. Whereas in other places. It was at 97, right? My sandwich was still below what it was dead, right? Yeah, so I mean, I think they they cheated with vote-by-mail that is cheating. But I remember even before the election. I mean before that report which more pinpointed it to the the Battleground States it was George Washington Post report that did that recently and it was really excellent. But before that when things you know to Joy was doing all this sabotage, I was saying that I thought that was a type of election fraud and and someone you know, I sent it to somebody in a direct message. It was normally, you know, pretty supportive very large account we check and and he like smacked me down and said, you know don't say don't do what they're doing don't cast doubt on the legitimacy of an election and like are you serious is obviously I mean, he's a freaking Trump donor. He's he's sabotaging about mail, but maybe maybe calling it fraud wasn't the right word. But I I think I think the legitimacy of the election, you know, as soon as buying a points as attorney general, he's going to appoint a special counsel to go after all these people. I mean I'm I you know, I've had Glenn Kirchner on and and like and how Parks who you know who was like a genius when it comes to all this, you know, he'll be on on Thursday. But I mean, you know, you know, he's convinced that they're going to go after I mean a lot of these perpetrators. Thank God I guess yeah, it's it's all it's all going to be about Georgia. But there is a narrative to it. You know, we can't let them have the narrative that it's all the problems with vote-by-mail are all because of Democrats when they're Postmaster General. I mean that really needs to be pushed and and dissected and unfortunately, we're actually reading all the articles about what to join did because the headlines are not often sufficient and it's hard to get all that in it and a headline but the fact that it does appear to have been targeted not just across the board wage delays. It appears that it was targeted and strategic. That message needs to get out there and know I have to ask you. I mean Donald Trump has never told the truth. He was proved wrong with the birth of every, you know, you've been fact-checked so many times and and proven that he's lying and and that so so then why would anyone believe him now when he took that, you know that he won. I mean, it's just I mean, I mean, there's obviously a consistency here in the consistency is that he lost his constantly. So so Jennifer getting back to your point. I just can't see I mean obviously like signal fans like, you know, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, I'm going to just you know told the line but at some point gop's past month has to go look. This is ridiculous. Here's one thing that they're doing. I'm sorry. That was to know. I'm just I guess I had like this wealth of you and I got canceled by the other person. I want you to go no way Jose. Now you go. I have nothing insightful. No, well, I forgot what they're not so much see the problem is Trump is now still going to control the Republican party that you know, and any Avenues towards funding for upcoming races are going to go through getting Trump's blessing. So he's still going to wield a lot of power over. You know, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham is even as a past president, you know, all those queuing just forget him unless we get a majority. Yeah, unless they don't cheat enjoy them in prison. I mean unless he actually goes dead person but right but I I think for the many crimes I'm sure he is committed but he's not going to prison but they cheated everywhere. That's my you know, and and I share your life situation. We should have been calling out after the 16 election and Democrats didn't you know, it was always supposed to talk to the point. Here's the talking point. Here's a talking point that seems to be getting them a little bit of Headway. And I think it's dying down. So thank God but it's got a lot of the elections Integrity Community is is a there's a lot of really great people in it, but you can be really naive and some of them are on the right side of the spectrum and and you know, thinking that that Trump in Republicans have a good faith desire for Life Integrity now that they've turned over a leaf because now they see how we can't prove that. I'm talking about the electronic outcomes. Now, they see that you can't prove the electronic outcomes and they have some good faith desired that they do not think they this party does not there's nothing that they have done in the past four years to show that this party has any good faith desire for evidence-based elections or real election Integrity. They want to weaponize real vulnerabilities that people like like me and other election real election Integrity Advocates have been talking about to weaponize those to try to stay in power or to create a narrative Warfare or so, for example Dominion voting. Apparently it's a lot one of its lobbyists was Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff. That is if you Google Dominion voting you'll see what I mean. It's all over the right-wing media and it doesn't matter to them that there are other lobbyists to lobbyists worked for Brian Kemp or they don't know they will and it is it's a that is something I will say not it's not even a both sides off because the partisan connections appear to overwhelmingly favored the GOP, but there should be partisan connections going in either direction. We shouldn't have these. You know e s n s is a bigger vendor than Dominion it donated $30,000 to the Republican State Legislative Council whose mission is to elect Republicans to State office. But there's also a rumor going around that it donated to one of them and Foundations projects and I haven't even confirmed that one one of the things they were saying is that there was some connection to Dianne Feinstein and that was appears to have been I think I'd completely debunked it but it was starting to go everywhere name is some company called Avid. They said that their software was used in Dominion voting and Dianne Feinstein's husband is with Avid. Well, it turns out there is some document like SEC document that includes both nuclear plant called Dominion etiquette and added in the same place and they took Dominion comment Connecticut and pretended, you know nuclear plant pretended that was Dominion voting to try to Gin up a theory, but there are real vulnerabilities with this equipment and that is the problem that they will be weaponized and they do not but they will not be calling out the S&S the only call at one vendor so they can get their vendor. Yes and S of the black disappears. like boats in or they you know, they want what manual audits they don't they don't want to So that was I do think some people are going to believe that we're going to have a lot of Republican voters who actually maybe maybe on the right. There's a bigger Joe Biden one and that said, you know, I mean I could give up hoping it would believe that some people will believe it because of the connection to Nancy Pelosi and the Clinton Foundation. No I get it. But I'm just saying who you know, why should we give a big fat ass? Because you know, it's I mean by that and that's it. I mean who cares if they're going to go around and and they've got guns and but yeah, they haven't used them yet. So that's good. I'm just saying I me personally I can care less I couldn't care less what they freaking, you know, bitch about Donald Trump's has been lying to the American people for the last four years. He lied about the pandemic. I mean, I mean for anybody to take anything that he says seriously, it is a person who has a serious wage. Mental problem. Well, I do want to say I mean I spend much of a last 3 days responding to all of these posts about Dominion voting to point out that you know, look it was the Republicans who killed the Safe Act required audits in which case the partisan affiliation is probably wouldn't which shouldn't matter. I mean you shouldn't have them but they shouldn't matter it's only cuz they killed the Safe Act there. I'm very thin ground there and also, you know about Hillary Clinton for all of her, you know other well, whatever you think of Hillary Clinton, she did support the Safe Act. She worked on it. She supported it she called for, you know, robust module audits for all elections. And so they can make a big issue of this donation if it's true, which I haven't even confirmed and we can't have to confirm every damn thing they say but yeah on the Senate races also, it's exhausting another thing because there are some really great threads going on about really unexpected results in throughout Texas a lot of small rural Texas counties showing that 100% of the new voters home. To Trump like there was a substantially increased turnout and supposedly it all went to Trump and that is very suspect. What's so tiresome though is even as great as those threads are they typically don't include links and they don't include screenshot. So I can't really use them in either can other journalists. I had someone from The New York Times contact me and ask about some of the stuff I can't vouch for it. It might be true. But somebody so my advice to anyone looking at anomaly is you have got if you're going to do a great thread. It won't help that much. I mean it's good to issue spot. It does help. But if you want like a serious reporter, like, you know, the Washington Post and New York Times to pick it up you need your screenshots and you need your links to go with every single damn thing you say otherwise they they can't do it and it's very time-consuming work. Well according to how sparks and you know, he's been right about everything so far. He says that even even if they do a recount, it's just it's going to produce more Biden votes. So in Georgia, What's that? You're with the recap be? Is there a I don't know. It depends on the law. Really? What is the one in George West Palm? So Georgia recounts are weird. I remember I told you about that QR code. There's have a QR code at the top. The QR code is the only part counted as your vote on Election Day never decided what counts as the official vote in Georgia one of the many complications when you have a QR code for accounting or barcode for accounting boats, so they never they refuse to decide that the state Election Commission. Democrat actually on the state election commission, but it wasn't his decision. That was the whole thing, which is majority Republican. He's on video a friend of mine got it saying that the QR code is the actual vote. So even if they use that text that you talked about that you could read and even if voters verified it a barcode or QR code that nobody could read in George of that is the official vote in Georgia. So You know, maybe there can be a court that I don't really know. I mean they are going to do an audit. So that was the other thing the Georgia Secretary of State has been running around telling everyone. Well, you should trust these elections because we're going to do a risk limiting audit, which is usually a very robust manual election audit, but he gets to pick what race she's going to do. I thought it was going to be the presidency that Miles O'Brien from life as it is no longer going to be the presidency and you know, they don't have the type of paper trail that experts considered reliable enough to support a reliable outcome, but it's also only one choice we may not get any verification of the outcomes in these Georgia Senate races we need You know, ideally we want to win both in-person voting and vote by mail for the Optics. But if we have a system we can't trust for in-person voting It's Tricky very tricky situation. So maybe I mean, I probably am recommending vote-by-mail in Georgia rather than using their their QR code systems. So their audits are going to use the text by the way, the audit will use the text but it's only for one race and right now it's probably not going to either Senate race. Well, I you know, and I understand if you down her but no we can do it we can do it. I mean, it's a little hard when you see those lines with all of those African American voters in particular the Optics make it very suspicious to then pretend that suddenly all these white people turned out or when there aren't our lines going elsewhere and I do want to say one thing that had me very worried is that is that Brian Kemp is building like a really high fence around the capitol. He's been doing that before the election. Maybe it's already up. I think it already is like one that democracy is built Big fences around their capitals be finally. I know but didn't didn't jump in us to yeah. He didn't hear Georgia started it. I think everything's everything bad starts in Georgia people there too, though, you know when people talk about sawing off certain parts of the United States, we can't we've got lots of wonderful people and all of these states We have the United freaking states with a lot of bad seeds sprinkled about well Jennifer. It's been a pleasure to have you on I need you to Europe. And is there anything else you want to plug? I did write a new article for the New York Review of Books and it's called how safe is the election office and the vulnerabilities are and then it goes on to discuss a lot of the election transparency projects including my own which is still pending. So that is a good thing to plug and yeah, just my Twitter account at Jenny that one I will be j e n n y c o h n one I'll be posting some updates. I'm really looking forward to and exit poll analysis. Yes. They did exit polls by calling people just to make up for all the the vote-by-mail off but by Jonathan Simon who's the author of the book Code Red? I understand there were very very striking redshifts where it mattered. But we shall see. Well Jennifer you're doing the Lord's work and just stay positive. We're going to take Georgia wage. All right, I hope so this helps a lot. Actually. I think I just needed to speak my mind. You know? No thank you so much time you do. Excellent work Jenny's I've said this is probably the third or fourth time. We've been on here together, you know, and I follow your Twitter religiously, as I said every other time you've been on here, like what you do is really hard to look at and people don't want to look at that. It's easy to jump out in the street and pop champagne and danced and make memes about winning but like you really gotta look and see what means actually I'm a huge fan. I mean, but yeah, I know what you're saying. Thank you so much. Have a nice Rapport. But you know Jennifer I just want to let you know everybody's liking you in the chats and Nicki be says a Thursday. How can we help fund Jennifer? So is there any way that that you know, they can donate I wish there were I have I have really scared off from trying to get any kind of funding at all and lots of people I have to say have them which is really nice to hear. Oh, I know where you can it's not me though. This is where money would make the biggest difference the Coalition for good governance in Georgia. They've got a pending litigation about the electronic voting system there and if anything will keep cheaters at Bay it is having a pending lawsuit with a sympathetic pathetic judge, which it is a sympathetic judge who is very aware of or concerns that have happened with the old system and the new system and her lawsuit is probably the most important thing in my opinion other than the get-out-the-vote effort by Stacey Abrams. It may be even more important in my opinion, but I'm biased toward the electronic aspect of stuff. So Coalition for good governance absolutely support their efforts in Georgia. They've got to donate link and they do incredible work and I am not associated with them. So, yep. Take that with extra. I get nothing for it. They just do incredible work. All right. Thanks so much, Jennifer. Thank you guys. Talk soon. You're awesome. Thanks for all your deal. All right, Jennifer calling the great election fraud expert. I hope I cheered her up a little bit off, you know, as I was saying, you know, she she has a heavy role in all this her job is hard. It's hard to get people to pay attention to something that most people don't want to pay attention to you know, it's complicated my page of the details the voting machines touchscreens Paper Trails, you know bar, like people are like, I want a line up and then I want to dance in the street, you know, but she's fighting for democracy because without a transparent electoral system, we don't have anything and we're know I know I know and and it's true but you know what? I mean, the only thing that I mean, I just think that they you know that we have to celebrate what we did when you know, and I think that Joe Biden winning is a big Fu to Trump and you know, and well this is where I wanted to go with you and yep. You know, you know if you could stay on another ten minutes is what you know, I know asking them beginning but you know with all that what's going on I what is going through his head right now. I'm I'm just curious because how I mean Anthony scaramucci said that he has Insight saucers that said that Trump is already trying volt negotiate his departure. So what do you think is going on in his head right now? I think that Anthony's right. He definitely has a sources that Trump is it's all about self-preservation, you know, Trump only has one mode and that's what do I get out of the situation? How do I protect myself and and keep keep the grift alive. So I think that's what's going through his head. I think he probably thinks more about what we discussed earlier the sdny and the charges pending then then he does, you know, what what states are going to get flipped in his favor. He's lost. He knows he's lost he also off He's a criminal, you know as much as he's denies and he knows his tax returns show that he doesn't pay taxes. He knows that he's laundered money and he knows that a lot of other people know that and he knows that he's been doing it for forty years or fifty years and he knows that the power of the presidency gave him immunity and he thought that that immunity would last for the rest of his life and I think what they showed em is that it doesn't last for the rest of his life and he doesn't want to let go of that that's why so privately in his head he's paranoid cuz he is a drug user and You know. Stimulant paranoia, you know hand-in-hand with that. That's what you They know it was everything that I've been saying the whole time. If you saw that guy who come out and you listen to anything that I've said and didn't believe a word I said look at what that could do. Get you know, he was sniffing through the whole press conference. His upper lip was totally numb and all he talked about was him and they were stealing it from him. He wasn't talking about the American people and I just settled down and congratulations and democracy spoke. He was like me you're taking something from me. I won this can't happen cuz in his world he can't be a loser because he knows he's a loser deep down and I think his father told him. He's a loser, you know, that's why he's hit his medical records cuz he's fat and he's overweight. He's in bad shape and he doesn't want you to know that it's why he began school records cuz they can't read. He's got a learning disability. No shame in it, but his father made him feel shame, and he pretended that he knew how to read and he's gotten away with that for seventy-four years is why Reedsburg? Finger and he can't pronounce stuff. So he hid that he hit his financial records cuz he's never been a billionaire, you know, he's never even been close to being a billionaire his company's a paper tiger as I've said before there's like twelve people who work in that office you go up to, you know, Trump organization. It's like 14 people. It's not a big multinational corporation. You know, Mike Bloomberg could buy the guy a thousand times over, you know, yes, he knows he doesn't measure up in all the ways that he feels like matters, you know, and then he got lucky, you know, the Putin Putin thought he'd be a good idea to have in charge the United States and he was the perfect Beast to have a bunch of rednecks drive around and pickup trucks with flags on their cars being electric rules. You know, that's why the only thing you did was go to these thoughts and rallies, you know, people were dying to go to these right literally spreading a disease so he could feed his ego and that's what he did for the last six months, you know, and now it all and he's going to move And apparently it's going to still have the rallies between now and January but it all came to a head. That's why you haven't seen him right? It's on Tuesday night. You haven't seen him since he came out Thursday did a press conference where he looked defeated and he read more lies how he and want and then he slumped off the stage, right? He didn't stand there like a man and take any questions, you know, you know power it out the sides. So like scaramucci said, you know Anthony who I need a good guy. To know him from being on the show with with him, you know, and he's thinking about himself and he's negotiating his exit strategy. He knows his lawyers suck, you know in terms of this recount stuff and that's why he's trying to hide a new ones a new guys are like, I'm not taking that case. You know anybody at a white shoe law firm firm is not going to take up space because never a better example of being on the wrong side of History, so he's scared but he's he's slipped a lot of nuances in his life. You know, that's the thing with the Teflon Dom, you know him Everyone's like blah blah blah. He's gotten away with stuff that most guys would have gone to jail for you know, sexual assaults alone. Most guys would have gone to jail for. Yeah. And and how long do you think is going on because you know the kids right? So what do you think is going on in and we'll take one by one Don with all of them together Don Jr. Eric who we all know home though and Ivanka. I mean are they in Jared Kushner? Let's include him to are they concerned about? You know, I'm not going to jail. Absolutely. I don't think. I think Eric's probably worried about going to jail cuz he's almost like the stooge in the organization. He's almost like the one there's a reason is dad put up his name. You know what I mean, Don Jr. Is getting high. Obviously we've seen him on T has been on T and last month. He's coked out of his mind, right? So he's in late-stage Brown. Bad cocaine addiction relapse, you know, cuz the guy was dried for like ten years. So if if you if you give something up and then you start doing it again. It's like worse than it was the first time that your disease is doing push-ups the whole time, right? So he's got an 800-pound gorilla on his back, you know, the the cocaine is and so fun when you're just completely abusing it, you know, and it makes you paranoid, you know, I've been terrible and so he's he's got the mind of an active addict who the walls are closing in and who's sort of being presented as like the next generation of this trunk thing cuz he's off, you know, as I said at the top of the show, there's an article came out today. He and Kimberly Guilfoyle very trying to become the leaders of the RNC. Yeah, probably succeed in that cuz let's face facts aren't these a bunch of eunuchs, you know, there's not a man with a backbone or a set of balls amongst them. Even the Dan Crenshaw pirate, you know Warrior douchebag and all these guys. Sorry to curse, but these guys off Spineless men Marco Rubio, you know Ted Cruz. These guys are the worst Americans that have ever lived in terms of not having a fucking pair of nuts between your legs, you know what I mean? So their bow down and they're going to blow down junior in public, you know at first chance they get right. So he's going to be a coked-out RNC leader. Okay. Eric is going to be running from the sdny Kushner Ivanka. They're they're the brains behind the operation as I told you. The first time I ever came on this show Ivanka calls the shots to all of them. Jared makes it work. Jared's little Logistics guy, you know, he goes out and meets the people and brings in his college buddies and puts them in charge of coronavirus, you know, p p p or whatever, you know, Jared's the guy who goes and meets with the Russians sets up the back channel for giving them the Facebook demographics to micro Target voters, you know, he's sort of the guy who's coalescing all these forces. That's why he's got that's why he's in charge of everything Mideast peace ope. Blah blah blah, you know, but Ivanka is the one telling them what they're going to do next. That's why they've been very reticent to take a stance since it happened. You know, they're waiting in the wings. She'll probably be calm like a talk show host. You know, if they don't start their own network, she'll get an hour on Fox news or something. She'll get a Primetime expensive, you know, big contract speaking thing some kind of role on T. Cuz that's what she likes to do is polished. So she'll be sort of like the face of the Trump org and that was her role when they were scamming people on condos, you know, when they would Trump Bhajan say they're going to build this new thing and they get investors and by investors. I mean people to come by condos she would show up in person and she'd be like, well Jared and I are going to buy one. So you might just be back in a cup of sugar from me someday. Now in reality is they were taking the money they never built the products and the people never got their money back. It's a scam. Okay. She was the face of that fraud. So she's just as dead. Reliable as the rest of you know, but she plays a good game and she understands the power that they had access to and people don't give up that power easy. You know, you let the mob in it's hard to get them. You know, you borrow some money for your pizza shop. They own a piece of your business. So for the RNC, that's what happened there stuck with the trumps. Now, it's the trumps World. I'll say one more person in that family didn't talk about Melania, you know. Oh, yeah, right she wants out of it. You know, I mean she is probably like, let me get out of here already cuz she hates Trump schiavone know hates her, you know, she's a mean-spirited had herself, you know, so she just wants to get her check go back to wherever her condo is going to be in Trump Tower cuz she'll probably get the apartment right off Trump can't ever go back to New York City. So she wants to go back hook up with Hank her boyfriend, you know at Tiffany's, you know, and and pop pills and live out her life, you know by burka bags and you know birth Can bags and and get put on in the street, you know, I'm convinced that she voted for Biden. She probably did she probably did you know, but she's evil, I mean that goes along with the thing too, you know, she's about the money and the jewels and stuff but she knows what he was, you know, sometimes people give her the benefit of the doubt. She's you know, she's just as racist as as as the rest of them cuz they sit around and use racist language, you know, if you're with them privately it's like n word, you know, there is trashy racist and hope have you heard a Melania using in World haven't know. I've heard G obviously Trump do it, you know, I haven't heard Melania do it, but she backed him up on the birth of you know, I know backing them up on the voter fraud. She tweeted that like only legal votes need to be counted, you know, like So, you know, she's she's you know, she's from Slovenia, you know, she's from a very like ethnocentric part of your Bureau and you know, so she's got no problem going along with this sort of white supremacy platform that the whole family exists on yeah, and do you know much about this, you know, because the vaccine am I Pfizer they that was not government-funded according to Business Insider. It had nothing to do with anything Trump did it didn't it was not part of operation warp speed which was Trump saying, you know, he was fast-tracking all this scientific research and medical development. It had nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, they didn't want to be involved in that cuz they didn't bow ties it so they on purpose didn't partake in that. So he's taking credit for something that he didn't wasn't involved in and of course, you know, all the Fox News people are being like congrats home. Right all along see this is President Trump's doing it's not his doing and the other thing I'll say about that and obviously I'm no medical expert or legal expert but to distribute That vaccine it off to be kept at -80 degrees, right? So think about the distribution how many places you know, your local CVS probably doesn't have a big capacity to hold a bunch of vials minus eighty degrees, you know, so when if that thing does come to Market it's going to be very hard to distribute it and that's another reason why we're happy that we have Biden, you know, putting together a plan to do this cuz Trump doesn't care and he's not putting those Logistics in place, but it's not simply something like they're just going to send out a bunch of boxes to the states and people are going to line up at the elementary school and get a shot and coronavirus goes away you suck up to effectively, you know, you know distribute That vaccine is going to be a logistical nightmare of its own and require expertise and money and skill, so don't home. Stop wearing a mask is what I'm trying to say that by no means it's going away. We're worse off now than we were nine months ago. You know, I started doing your show when this thing was brand new in May, you know and in May there were probably ten thousand cases a day, you know, and now there's a hundred twenty thousand, you know, and we're going into winter where everybody's inside so, you know, we're in we're in you know, what we're in for a tough winter, you know, there's reason to be positive cuz now we have adults in charge and there's actually scientists instead of Scott Atlas like some Duty met at the Second Avenue Deli, you know in charge of the thing off a know first of all, Larry Duncan says right to be fair. The only thing that what that visor was guaranteed was a purchase by the US government. Yeah. Yeah, but now good as gold has a question for you. And and I like this question asked knowing what he thinks about that Miss Piggy lady who won't sign the papers to make the transition. And I can't stand her also the lady she's not the GS. Oh right general service GSA General Services Administration. I used to deliver to that building when I was a bike Courier on on Capitol Hill by the way, but she's not only not refusing to sign the papers which basically just means like Finance guys can't get government-wide out and staplers and stuff. You know, they can do their business with the office supplies and the purchase orders. It's still messed up but she's the same lady who killed the FBI deal, you know, the old FBI building was going to be torn down and somebody was going to build a home down there. You know, the FBI is at like 14th and Constitution, you know, and they were going to build a new hotel, which is two blocks away from Trump Hotel. So he didn't want that happening. So he said kill the deal and she's the one who killed the deal for him. She's a trump appointee, you know, she's the same thing as that lady in Mississippi. It wouldn't like certify the gay marriage, you know, you look at home. She's like a qanon nutbag. She's one of the Karen's we've seen in our Twitter feed for last two years. You know, she probably believes that there's you know pedophiles and in in, you know in pizza shop basements and everything, but she's she's gone to bat for Trump before she you know, the fact that they wouldn't let that hotel be you know, that old FBI building which if you've ever seen the J Edgar Hoover building it needs to get torn down, you know, that building is like stalinist kind of architecture. It's a big old concrete thing chunks of concrete are falling off on the street like it's time to let it go I used to go to school there when I was in elementary school cuz I went to elementary school in Maryland outside of DC. So she's not letting progress happen to protect Trump's business interests, you know, that's the reason I feel that deal and cuz he didn't want competition for his hotel. So think about that he was supposed to have like, you know, Given up all of his business control when he took office instead. He was fine-tuning and appointing people who would allow his hotels to make more money as president. So she's as corrupt as he is. You should be in jail for what she's doing right now. It's obstructing justice. Yeah. No, I know and I don't know if this really was you see that video that was going around of Michele Bachmann that said where she's going stomped them out Dear God and all that. Was that her I think that was real. Yeah. That was her I didn't watch it, but I could tell what she was saying, you know, I'm kind of like burnt on all this stuff on the Twitter thought that was Michelle Bachman. She's a nut bag their own nut bags like Paula White think you see the Paul White No. No, what was that one? He was she's the preacher. She's like his side piece at the White House. She's the one that he brought to the White House the blonde chick. She's married to Jonathan Cain and journey. Oh, really? Yeah, and I don't know how he puts up with that. It's like God, but she was like sitting there like speaking in tongues like Lord send your angels in to take the election for Trump send them from Africa send them in from Central America as if that's where those guys are going to come from, you know to help out strong, but she was calling for spirits to come in and help and then started speaking in tongues literally game like snake handlers and stuff, you know man know. I mean, it's just it's like Bizarro World dude. It's a cult. Yeah, it's theater. You know, that's what it is. They manipulate these people with theater package. Don't buy that DS that lady knows it's not true Michele Bachmann knows, you know, like she's not really praying in that moment. But praying with an e y is what they're dead. They're preying on people that'll believe that Trump is the same model as the preachers when we were kids that would tell poor people to send a hundred bucks, you know, and then they'd get a new jet. It's the same scam. They're scamming white, you know lower middle class middle class people thinking that you know, they're on the side of God and this is the leader that's going to help them get closer to Jesus b s where I think I found the Paula White thing is this prayer for Trump re-election. Yeah. Hold on. I'm going to pull this up. All right, hold on. Hold on a second cuz I you know, everybody's saying it's pretty nuts. So I gotta I gotta just see it. Yeah, hold on. Let's see what this is. Man, it's just I mean just the lunacy it's you know. Right. It's just the one yeah, that's it. All right here. Let's play it. And strike and changes it even though it said dispatch from Africa right now after right now Africa right now from Africa right now. They're coming here. They're coming here in the name of Jesus from South America. There's nothing here. They're coming here. They're coming here. They're coming here from Africa from South America Angelic forces Angelic reinforcement Angelic reinforcement Angelic reinforcement me kaha PE on the I thought about that. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of fact, I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. I hear the sound of Victory. Holy crap. Oh my god, let's do and she works for the Trump Administration. He's the White House spiritual advisor. She has an office in the White House. Are you kidding me, man? That what the hell is she talking about speaking in tongues? Like holy ghost Holy Rollers, you know snake handlers. It's a scam. It's, you're conning people that's political theater. When you start speaking in tongues like that, you know, it's like a more dramatic thing. Like, whoa, she's really possessed. Now the god of speaking through her, you know, holy crap. No, thanks. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I hadn't seen that and that's Jonathan Cain's wife Paula Cain Jonathan King from Faithfully. I'm forever or can you imagine know it's it's it's freaking bizarre man. I think you were in journeyman. You were like the hottest band in nineteen eighty-two you couldn't you know, We ended up with here. I mean, holy that's that's Insanity. I mean as anyone call are they calling him out? I don't know. He has kind of been out of the picture. There was a lot of talk that she was his side piece and I met added to that cuz he's very fond of her and if you ever there's a lot of factors of her in the Oval Office doing like Hands-On prayers where she'll bring a bunch of like Baptists and other preachers around him and she's always grabbing his bicep. She always holds right on track arm, like he's a big stud and then she'll lead the prayer and all these other people will put their hands on and there's a great picture where they're all doing that and he's looking at the camera like like he knows it's BS, you know, how long takes that stuff? He's the most religious guy that are ever well, you know, but it's a scam. But yeah, I don't know where Jonathan is, you know, that's like his fifth wife, you know rock stars are it's like wage You know, I know but that's just yeah, that's no no listen to that at night. But you know, he's probably a little wacky. So he he I think I found it. I think I might have found. Hold on just thought would be per second. No. Oh, here it is. Here. It is. Okay. See I see it didn't look like her to me. But but it is her Bachman. Yeah, definitely hurt holyshit here here. So let's just play this one. This one haven't seen it. Let's see it. All right. Okay, check this out. I asked so God that you would take your iron rod and I ask that you would smash the clay jar of Deceit and I smash the clay jar of delusion in the United States of America smash the delusion father of Joe Biden as our President Bush is not what would you take your iron rod and smash the strong delusion that Nancy Pelosi does have her House of Representatives. We don't know that Smith in Jesus name smash Lord the take over for a view the Senate by Chuck Schumer Lord, smashed it with your iron Rod. So what you just heard there was former congresswoman. Yes former congresswoman and presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann saying that God must come that she's praying for God to come and smash. The Clay Pot of delusion that it's making people the media Society believe that Joe Biden is president-elect and that in January of next year. He's going to become president turfing Donald Trump and Mike Pence. Wow, holy crap, man. I mean that is just unbelievable. Like like I saw it on Twin no, but I go wage really Michele Bachmann. Yep. It sure is she's if she on drugs or something. She's on Jesus baby, you know, he's on the Goldenrod, you know home, but the iron Rod I like the imagery to you know phallic that is the iron Rod, you know Smash and it's funny how she's saying all this religious stuff and then she's like in Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, you know, it's like when someone speaking a foreign language and then they say something perfectly and like like it's so ridiculous. It's again theater that's manipulation. She doesn't believe that b s. Trying to convince his followers. Hang on Jesus is the one you know that wants Trump in office. They're trying to steal the election and they're trying to keep as many of their folks in on the scam they can because they're milking them dry. Trump is sending out fundraising letters asking for money, you know what he's using it for it to pay off campaign debt. He had a billion dollars in January now, he's broke and he's asking him for money to pay off the debts from the failing campaign, you know? Yeah. Well, that's what Hal Sparks said. He said that that Trump doesn't have any money to hire lawyers to try and you know and find this election, you know, like he's broke. He's totally broke cuz he took all that money. He can't know all that money got spent on Trump properties and whatever, you know so long and he's going to keep drifting he's going to keep doing it for the next four years cuz he's got seventy million people that believe in his BS and at least Thirty million of those people are people that these guys are targeting You know, they're lower-income Southern racist, you know, Christian fundamentalists, you know, they think that Jesus wants, you know, a big fat drug addict, you know office wearing his depends snorting Adderall hitting on you know, little blonde girls Kayleigh mcenany, you know, do you think he's hitting that? No, I don't think he's hitting that but I think he's off on that, you know, and I think she's letting him hit on that the body something she looks like that. Have you ever seen a picture of what the people look like that he hires. It's just like in TV in the worst days when they'd only hire, you know people they wanted to bang that's what he's doing. Everybody has a they make him where it's short skirts and all this kind of stuff. There's a look that you have to have to work at the white box and wish somebody had written about this they never did but they get a lot of people from Ole Miss like ivanka's assistant is is pretty little blonde girl from Old Miss, you know, Mississippi to college, you know in Oxford off. There's a certain look like a southern Sorority Girl is what they want and Kayleigh mcenany looks just like that, you know, like a just like a beauty pageant tight. That's the same type. He was hitting on when I thought you know, this is really out of his mind. Yeah. I haven't seen everyone's telling me to play this one. So, let's see it. is A deterrent to pain is this the thing they thought about now. Yeah, this is the this is the guy who gets project you can John. You know what I'm saying Hopkins University. They they have proven it. And they have people that lead in Leicester. They lead in laughter is just the subject. I don't have anything to last about that's all right, you just you just go ahead with that your that your physical brain and body cannot tell the difference between a put on laugh. And a real belly laugh. It works and like I said a merry heart does good like a medicine. So the joy of the Lord is our strength. So how do we count it all joy. Well, haha. hahaha Hahaha, hahaha, hahaha, hahaha. Hahaha Associated Press. Oh my God, Santa Joe Biden spring break. Oh my God the country song. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, he's going to be president Mickey Mouse going to be king. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. No. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, it's crazy. Let me think Paul Newman for the ten bucks. You said don't give up on Democracy. But I mean, yeah, I mean off now Michele Bachmann, don't forget. She was the one who said pray the gay away her and her husband who we all at least we I mean everyone thinks or questions if he's gay or though, I don't at all. I mean, I I thoroughly believe he's gay, you know, just like I thoroughly believe that Lindsey Graham is gay but I mean, this is how nutty they are. I mean pray the gay away right? It's insane. So what's going to happen to Mike Pence? Well, he's on vacation now, he's done in a Sanibel Island taking a vacation, right 4070 days before he asked the transfer power. He's also the head of the Chrome. Irish task force, you know, which they know they gave up, but I'm going to go to down to Sanibel Island, you know to pray the gay away probably won't work. You know, I mean know you like going life. This is just it's like the Keystone Cops. I mean, what do you think about Bill bar? I mean what's going on with him now? Cuz he met privately with mr. Mccombe. Do you have any idea what that could have been about that? We're sticking with with you know with the bosses line of reasoning which is that we didn't win this election. So you got to toe the party line and Mitch McConnell went right back out after they met and said, you know, he wasn't going to he was going to honor what the president was saying and he wasn't going to call Biden president-elect, you know bars the dangerous one, you know bar and Pompeo or dangerous, you know, I don't want to get off. You know, what Pompeo did today, you know saying we'll have a peaceful transfer of power to Trump as the next president. You know, these guys are arrogant dead. And that they would do anything to subvert democracy and they have been behind the scenes so they both scare me a little more, you know Trump as we've discussed Ad nauseam not an idiot, you know, these other guys are not idiots Bill bar is not an idiot, you know, and he's like he said to Nancy Pelosi. Did you bring your handcuffs? You know Bill Barr said history is written by the winners wage, you know, so they don't have a legal trick up their sleeve but they keep saying this electorate thing, you know and their end game sort of that, you know, the Doomsday scenario is that the Electoral would not certify the both boats for Joe Biden, you know, they would refuse to certify Joe Biden's bolts and then it would go to the Supreme Court and then the Supreme Court would rule in favor of trump off, you know, so that's why they add Amy Coney Barrett on the Supreme Court. He's got course such and he's got you know, Meet whatever the rapist, you know was the bread bread beerhead. Whatever the fuk is Thomas, you know Brett Kavanaugh Clarence Thomas will go along with whatever they say Clarence Thomas is The Big Box come back on that Court, you know, well, I would I would say Brett Kavanaugh I was you know, galvanizing should be in jail, you know, but but Clarence Thomas has gone a lot and didn't even show up for votes for most of the time. He's been on, you know been on the bench and his wife is the one that was going around Capitol Hill looking for going around DC making sure that people were foiled to Trump within all the agencies, you know, so if they do pull off sort of a bureaucratic coup and it goes to that Thomas's wife will have, you know, been a big part of that if she'd have to in fact use, you know, the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice in service of installing Trump for another term. So that's the Doomsday scenario. Yep. No, that's the thing that the alarm has talked about and by alarm is William kristol wrote about this yesterday, you know, he wrote an essay and said I hope I'm wrong, you know, but this is what could happen, you know and what they're clearly banking on if you listen to their language, they mentioned the electors twice now Bill bar mentioned it in the letter that he wrote the memo to the doj last night. So that's their end game that they hoped off, you know is that they'll get enough people from the states to say I refused to certify our state's electoral votes as being cast for Biden and then it goes to court, you know, but without hope and reason and any legal precedence tells us that even the court wouldn't go along with that, you know that way back that up cuz I just bought say that again all wait. So you're saying what you say about the electoral votes that you know that the Electoral College those votes meet in December and they certify the votes. So that's dead. The election is officially sort of certified when you have an official winner. Okay, so every state elects, you know, Pennsylvania has 14 or whatever. I'm just using example, right? So those fifteen electoral votes go to bite right? There's an actual person who is like elected to be the Electoral delicate, you know, like the same people you'd see at the conventions. Those people can say I'm refusing to call Biden the winner of Pennsylvania is 14 electoral votes. I want them to go for Trump, right? They could sort of do Mutiny and Electoral College musician in which case they would have to go to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court would then decide what they were going to on them, you know, the electoral votes as they were cast by the people took the electoral votes as the sort of mutant state representatives say You follow me? Yeah waited shit, but it's basically like the now that now that Biden is one all those States those people are supposed to say I hereby declare, Biden has one these days trying something. His people are going to say no BS Trump one in which case it goes to the highest court in the land and that court is in favor of truck, you know by 6 to 4 margin or whatever, you know, six five two three margin, you know. Yeah. Wow, so, but but but do you think the Electoral people can get corrupted off? Who knows? That's what they're banking on I'm not saying it could happen. What I'm saying is that's the end game theory that people that are paid to worry about this stuff worry about and there was a senator who left. I don't know his name, but he wrote an op-ed about this earlier this year and he said look, here's the Doomsday scenario, you know, Biden could win the popular vote win the electoral college and still not be our next president wage. Trump wants to do all these unprecedented things and nothing will stop Trump from trying that and apparently nothing will stop bar from trying them, you know, so it comes down to these individuals in these states who could easily be corruptible, you know, and you don't need many of you basically need I don't know how many the official toll is. You know, how many whatever the Electoral count is for Biden. You don't need that many, you know, however many he's above 270, you know, if enough of them did it to bring them down the 269 then it would have to go to the Supreme Court that would be I mean, that's just freaking awful. Right and it would throw our democracy into even more chaos than it's in now, you know now they're ringing bells for us in Paris and bringing, you know, activating big fan and people are dancing in the street around the world if that BS happens Hold On Tight, you know, hold on tight because we lose our standing in the world as a viable dommage. We'll see with a peaceful transfer of power. And and if it happened in succeeded you'd have a coup and it would be game over, you know a good as gold s but if the Dems win aren't they Democrat electorate wage know and I'm not an expert so it's hard for me to explain it, but it's not. That's not how it works. It's like somebody has to go from that state and say here this guy won the electorate, you know won the Electoral College so our 14 electoral votes go to bite off that state can say we refuse to do that? You know what? I mean, whoever it is in that state government can say no we're not going to do that. You know this. Well, that would be just complete and I would encourage the whoever answered the question to read William crystals article and Google the senator who wrote about this stuff you're talking about really Arcane minutiae stuff that I'm in no way an expert on but I'm giving you the outline of how that happens. You know, it's like your job at their job is to now saying yeah our fourteen votes go to Bible. There's nothing necessarily stopping that person to say. Nope. My votes go for Trump. You know and then by the BX we want him fair and square and then it gets kicked up to the courts to intervene. Does it go straight to the Supreme Court or does it go to a local Court from my understanding? It goes straight to the Supreme Court, but I have no expertise in this, you know, it eventually goes to the Supreme Court, you know, that's what happened in 2000 in Florida, right? It was in a state court and then it got kicked off the Supreme Court so very quickly, it goes to the Supreme Court and that's why McConnell, you know pushed through Amy Coney Barrett, you know, like she was like RBG die off in within a month, you know Trump was doing a political ceremony at the White House with her, you know on the wing, you know on the balcony In The West Wing. Yeah cheering on the leader so they could all do that. You know, it would be it would be the most audacious and Republic, you know repugnant. It would be a revolution. You know, it would be an act of War legislatively wage. Democratically but everything so far has been unprecedented and I'm not telling your viewers to prepare for that and you'll know soon. I mean if they do that you'll know within a month, you know, well go to age-old said I had John asked how sparks about that last time I was on and how said it won't happen. I mean, I hope he's right, you know and ninety-nine percent. It won't happen. I'm just raising it off. That's the endgame possibility cuz you asked me about bar and you asked me about you know, and and Pompeo signaled that today when he said they'll be a peaceful of transfer power to another Trump Administration, you know, that's the endgame that's everybody goes to sleep and lets them do that, you know, but I don't think it'll happen either on the record. I don't think that'll happen. I'm just letting you know that that is a possibility, you know, damn. Well, that's I mean that would be you know, that would be the end of like, you know this country. I mean, I mean, that'd be the end of our democracy. I mean, you know because then yep. Cuz then it doesn't even come down to you know to the people. Yeah, you know and for any Republican to be okay with that would be there okay with you know, Dave Tater and and they'll do anything and so they might as well just keep Trump in there until you know until he croaks right what's his, you know, a lot of what they're playing was, you know off that plan was thwarted a week ago tonight by people showing up in record numbers and voting him out and it's still took a week. It's still took 5 days for Network news to admit thousand and one that Biden one in that trumpet lost when Hillary lost they said it by 8:30, you know, nobody was waiting but everybody is so proud and scared of trump that they wait until Saturday, you know, so whatever you think about him his bullying attitude has had a big effect on Democracy already, you know? Yeah. Oh my God bird show has a game. Well, you know what Melania was she filed for divorce. Yes. How soon as soon as she possibly can as soon as my contract is up, you know. It's unbelievable man. I mean, it's safe harbor somewhere. You know, she'll she'll divorce him. She hates him. Yeah, that's why another reason why you know this electoral college. She thought she certainly doesn't want that to happen. No. No, she does not want to be in the white house will listen know, you know, it's been great having you on again. I mean like you're always a great guest wage. You're welcome anytime to but before you go, let me ask you. How's the book coming? I got it. I got it like grind on it. You know, I gotta put my my my nose to the grindstone. It's this is the last month. So I'm going to do for a while. It's gone. Well, but you know, I I got distracted and caught up in this election in the last few weeks, you know, and I write a little bit but now I really gotta make it my full-time job, you know, God. Well, yeah the old ladies like you gotta make some money man. No eating write a book, you know. Yeah. Well, listen man, you know every two I'll send you some stuff, you know. Sure. Everyone's going to write a Trump Tower. I want to talk about my life. You know, I'll talk about Trump, but you know, yeah, well, I think you know, like you know, what I did is I Encompass every part of my life, you know from growing up to to the stern days to the Jay Leno days, you know, and then to the Trump phone call is like they think the last chapter, but it's like every part of my life, so that's what you know, and that's just what it is. And but anyway, dude, thank you so much everyone in the chats. They all love you, brother. Thank you, brother. I love you, too, and I know your dad loves you, and he's looking down proud of you tonight, man. All right, thank you know you did a lot to get this guy elected man. Thank you. Bye denote my nose you want to man? All right. Thanks a lot know everybody the great an old casler. Got it. Thanks guys by Thursday. Well, that was a great show. So so we had Noel casler and we had Jennifer Cohn on and who was not very happy. Be today and you know, it is really sad that we have to be nervous. But Divided We Stand feel free to Super Chat me and I'll post my direct link off right over here and that is and you know, but keep the super chats keep them coming because they are much appreciated and there is the direct link. Yeah, you can surely one John any update on your suit against serious. They I mean, you know, you know, we responded to their response and now she goes to the judge and then and then and then you know, hopefully he he understands that we have proof that you know, and you know, and then and then we move forward that's all I thought you know, that's all I can tell you but you know, there's no real updates until until no actually I think I forget. I'm not the lawyer here. I think you know, I did not speak to my attorney, you know yesterday about about different stuff but I did yeah, you know, I actually I actually kind of thought I forget but you know You know, God bless my attorney cuz he's awesome Michael Pope Buck everyone. Thank you for everyone's you know, you know, everyone is off the show J R supercharged. Yeah Super Champ supercharged superchat PayPal me but in the meantime I'd like to thank Jennifer calling for coming on the program a long show. I like saying all casler for coming on the program. I love to thank manscaped package manscape your balls will thank you. It's it's a great great gift for Christmas for any man and it's awesome. It comes with all cool stuff, but I think any any man would appreciate and I'd like to thank Sean Hockey Canada 25 for moderating along with Nikki beat down and you know Rest in Peace Dad and I will see you all on Thursday with the great house Sparks to talk to us all and I'll probably try and get Glencoe Iran to answer some of these questions about the Electoral College. All right, this is Stuttering John saying Kia and get

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Gabe Kapler Meets Willie Mays

Giants Splash

21:06 min | 1 year ago

Gabe Kapler Meets Willie Mays

"Expectations are sky high for the as this year especially with the Houston cheating scandal potentially opening path for the as to win the division I am Susan's Lesser Lesser. You can follow along with all the as developments throughout the season on as plus hello and welcome to the giant splash. I'm John Shea the chronicles national baseball writer. And we welcome. The giants new manager gave Kappler to the podcast. I caught up with Gabe in his office at Oracle Park right after he met Willie mays we discussed that meeting with the great maze along with all kinds of roster information including his thoughts on some of the players recently signed so gave you had a few precious moments with Willie. mays could you talk about that. And what that that was like in House that materialized sure You know having the opportunity to spend some time with Mr Mays. I'm gonNA address them like that because I feel like he's. He's one of the few baseball players alive that Really Command that level of respect and I it was A little bit. Surreal the old to walk into the office. Sit Down and spend time with him asking questions have meat have him ask me questions But definitely one of the more impactful experiences I've had since I've been in San Francisco. So what did you know about Willie growing up. I think what what stands out to me. Most was my childhood collecting collecting baseball cards. And you know obviously the baseball card collecting period of time for me was like nine thousand nine hundred five when I was ten years old through nine hundred ninety five that was my my formative years around learning about baseball history but I knew about the old time baseball cards and so the the two that stood out out to me were I think it was nineteen fifty two Mickey Mantle Rookie which was about the same time that they're Willie mays was was coming into league and I remembered visually having that the impact of of those old early fifties baseball cards And certainly like I always thought of Willie mays one of the top three players. That ever lived So my visual of course of the catch have that guy can play that in my mind right now and then I I see his his face on on that old baseball card. And Yeah I mean you know legend. That's what comes to mind right. I think about Willie mays what impressed you during in your. I think it was forty minutes. Far came in Scott came in. But you were there the entire time. Yeah I guess I think what what impressed me is that you know Willie is. He's he's challenging He likes to have real discussion and I guess one thing that comes to mind is I want want to get to know him better over a longer period of time. I think that our relationship will develop the more I go in and sit down and have conversations with them I think that it's really. It would be really awesome to to get to know him and get to know me. How could Willie really may be utilized in spring training for starters? I mean you go round Major League Baseball Club houses. You don't usually see hall of famers in their everyday and Willie mays pretty much. Every day during the regular season will show up at the home game and certainly every home game during the cactus league season. Scottsdale at the stadium he will be there in the clubhouse pre-game so how could you use it utilize the resource that not many others would have I. I actually see this two ways first. Having our players understand that they can go and sit down and talk to Willie at at any point And and ask him questions which is something that was clearly important to him is having people ask him questions and And then on on the flip side. I think it's really valuable for Willie to have so it's obviously useful for our players to to to sponge up Willie's knowledge and on on the flip side. I think Willie would get some inspiration out of having players Mine knowledge that he has as a hitter as an outfielder are and history of the San Francisco. Giants will grow up. Who is your guy who is your all time favorite baseball player as a kid or even looking back to the history of the game? Who might you Respected the most. You said eighty five to ninety five. Where are the years you really studied and looked at collected baseball cards? Yeah and I would say as a very young boy It was kind of more the tail. End of Pete rose's freer so pete rose comes to mind and Dan you know my favorite all time baseball player as a kid was was fred mcgriff. Wow so He was right in the heart of his career. In those formative years for me and a few other Toronto Blue Jays come to mind like George Bell and Jesse Barfield. We're both I I like the Toronto Blue Jays as a as a boy and that was because I was on a tee ball team where I have the powder Blue Jersey and that bird on the chest and so I like the blue is my dad would take me to Anaheim stadium to watch watch the Blue Jays come in and so. I didn't spend as much time at dodger stadium even though it was closer to my house and then Charles Barkley I. I know this is not a basketball. The ball question but Barkley was another guy that I love to watch play. I love the fact that you six four and a half and he out rebounded the monsters. He had so much heart and and determination on the floor that I thought he was a pretty special and influential athlete in my mind. You mentioned Barclay. Are you mentioned mcgriff to your favorite said. They were a lot of like in that they both had a lot of heart mcgriff every single year thirty homers one hundred. RBI but try to transition into modern times twenty twenty giants roster shaping up. Far Huns eighties has made some moves. He he hasn't given anyone multi year contracts. He hasn't brought in any marquee free agents. He's developed some death at different levels. How you seen plan plan out in general in particular the pitching because obviously you start every roster pitching right? Well I think the the guys that have been brought in drew smiley. Kevin Guardsmen still have tremendous upside and how an opportunity to be exposed to drew smiley last year. He wasn't he didn't have full distance from his Tommy John Surgery but he had a lot of the arm strength had started to come back and and he was bouncing back and was durable force for us in Philadelphia last year. And he's he's learning how to utilize his pitch mix and and be more and more effective active every time he goes out the last start of the season against the nationals. I think he struck out. You can double check this struck out ten Walk none and was incredibly effective. And I think that's the outside the ceiling for Drew Smiley. So that's that's pretty exciting. And then you mentioned when we we when you walked in the room Nick Vinson an MRI but the guy that we had in Philadelphia also last year Incredibly competitive incredibly durable High Caliber Team Mate Exciting to have around right now. Nick Vincent in Philadelphia was much better than the Nick Vincent in San Francisco last year under. What you guys did to them? But in September he was lights out with a sub to era in San Francisco. I think he had one start as an opener. Bruce Bocce didn't do a lot of that He was into introduced to it. And I imagine we'll see more of that but is he somebody who could fill that role. Or what kind of role would you see out an Vinson. We valuable flexible relievers. And I think nick is the kind of guy that could pitch in the eighth inning. Give pitch in the sixth. He was the kind of guy who in Philadelphia. If we have a pitcher make an early exit fell very comfortable bringing him into the game going through left handed and right handed batters And I think anything. We asked Nick to view he'd be He'd be game for is is our Cueto and smarter the only starters starters with confirmed rotation jobs at this point I think that Cueto and shark at the top of the rotation Guzman and Smiley are both considered to be starting pitchers for US heading spring training. And then I think there's a lot of competition for The final spots spots so webby beatty Anderson Suarez. All of those guys have have opportunity in front of them. So would they be battling for the final spot or are you saying the third and fourth spot might be up for grabs. Are they set with the players. There's that you mentioned Smiley and Guzman both come into campus as starters for Okay and as you mentioned Cueto and and shark both both with to be at the top of the rotation. We'll have more of my conversation with gave Kappler right after this. If you've been listening into San Francisco City insider you heard from chaser bodine months before his surprise election as the city's. Da You heard from the most love librarian in the country and you heard from the man who wants to remake Muny. I'm chronicle columnist. Heather Knight get to know the people who make San Francisco tick and see if you approve of their burrito choices on San Francisco go city insider. You need a closer or are you. Open to rotating that position or even used in your best best reliever in a higher leverage seventh or eighth inning situation where we'd see a stereotypical closer into twenty twenty twenty things a little too early to tell John I mean I think we want to see see what our our roster looks like heading into spring training. I think we've got a lot of possibilities right now. For the sixth through the ninth and we'll look to be creative to to find the best fits for each situation now do von seems to be a a real wildcard linear. He was really impressive. toward the end of last season at Ed both short and second but he so athletic he could do a lot of things that I was the outfield particular Centerfield do see him roaming around the diamond or is he the in the mix at second base with the Solano and the newcomer Gilmer Sanchez. We see it as we see opportunities for playing time as as merit based so We see Yohmor and we see DEVAN. We see Solano. No no as competing for playing time. We see some openings in the outfield and so for that reason we're excited about let's see what do bond can do in the outfield as well and these are conversations that we'll continue to have with with all players. Are you looking For the second baseman to be more defensive minded or more hitting minded because Sanchez comes as a raining. Gold Glover From the white sox where he was wonderful on defense but maybe provide the pop that you might be looking for with this lineup. We're excited about Sanchez's Sanchez's Defense contributions and he's also put in quite a bit of time with with Justin belief. One of our major league coaches Spent a good deal of time with him. This past offseason working through swing adjustments Those swing adjustments Yohmor has been pretty committed to and we're excited to see what those changes producing spring training and in the regular season. Speaking of the new coaches have they at all met with or at least spoken with all the veterans. Including you know buster Posey in Crawford and belt and Longoria. Here's been a lot of work done so far John so Longoria and Crawford both have spent time with our hitting roof in the cage in Scottsdale Buster and some Marjo have both been here in San Francisco had an opportunity to talk to both of those guys. They're both working really hard into to put their bodies and their minds in the right position to have success in in twenty twenty But all of our coaches are making consistent contact with with our players That's that's true for me as well. Some really good conversations with with our players already. Pablo Sandoval is a giant again. Yes or at least he will be resuming. His Rehab with the giants opening day. Seems Unlikely I don't know maybe I'm wrong. But he's A. He's a bit ahead of schedule. But I think opening day is is certainly certainly ambitious given the circumstances right you met with him in Miami off season did that Lead to the signing here or was that the introductory Conversation you had and would you expect from him. It wasn't for sure that he was gonna be back but he does as Bruce Bochy said many times provide a lot of personality in leadership and Enjoy those sure so Collaboration always leads to the signing of players As far as Pablo's lows impact on on the clubhouse I don't think it can be discounted. It's a it's a big thing. He's he keeps the mood life. He knows how to to inspire his teammates and have been example of that. When I went out to Miami and I sat down with Suarez Anderson and Pablo Pablo double had a a really mature perspective on how to handle that conversation he knew when the right time was for to take control of the conversation but he also also knew when to tee up Anderson and Suarez so that I was able to get to know the three of them together at the same time? He's just he's a mature but also very lighthearted joy filled athlete. And then I'll say this as when we came in with the phillies Pablo. Oh was dangerous coming off the bench swing and a good bat and he. We always had to account for the possibility that he was gonNA come up in a big situation and and we knew that he was going to be a grind of a plate appearance. And so yeah I mean He. He had a good year last year with the BAT. And I'm excited for for him. When he's fully healthy he would that be made with Epi June July? Would that be August. Do we know. I don't think we have an exact timeline yet I've I've seen videos of Pablo. He's he shares awesome and he's excited about his progress so he's throwing fairly aggressively at this point And obviously he shared some videos. Swing swing looks good. Looks in good shape. You mentioned Anderson is one of the three met in Miami. Which Anderson was the Sean John Anderson? Okay in Tyler will be ready for the season. I don't know exactly where he is in his time. Line right now but I can get that information for you okay. Anybody else Smiley anybody else. Who is questionable? annable for opening day smiley healthy okay. Yeah we're we're good to go there. Okay Okay and Darren rough another newcomer. Who spent the last last three years in Korea? Yeah hit some home runs. Eighty plus I don't know if that's the level of AAA or what but eighty five home runs. Eighty five home runs. Let's first baseman slash corner. After would you see of him. You nailed it on heat. So in in Korea the numbers he put up. Were really impressive. I I think three years in a row were was nine hundred opie s and I think at least one of those years was over thousands so he was able to to do two things. He's very well that we value number one hit for power number to get on base so and Darren we had some exposure to Darren when I was in player player development with the dodgers many years ago And Look I mean I'm not sure how much of the performance from Korea the last couple of years translates it's two major league baseball but they're certainly reason for optimism. Where's this going to get? Its power This is a tougher ballpark park to hit them. Most if not all and the numbers on the offensive side last few years haven't been impressive on the power side with. Where are you going to get your our our job as a major league? Coaching staff is to take the pieces that we have in this room. The athletes that we that we have in this room in on our roster right now and try try to turn the dial up just a little bit We are a player. Development Focused Major League coaching staff. So one way for us to to get a two to power in our lineup is to improve swings improve swing decisions And continue can you to to make adjustments to get the most out of our our very talented athletes. I think there's another level in another gear in some some of our veteran players. And I think that we're GONNA do everything necessary to develop the the young players that are still coming into their own and I think in Strips Ubon Jalen Davis dickerson. Like these are slater. All of these guys have have some pretty high ceilings. Yes you have a relationship with Kevin Pillar. Yeah we We both come from the same part of California. Yeah Yeah we've stayed in touch over the years. Now he's a free agent yes Farhan told me that before spring training. He's expecting one or two more outfielders in the mix to bring in church and I'm wondering if You might shed any light on whether he would be somebody you'd like to pursue or have I know this. Isn't you know party. Part of your Gig you manage. The team brings the players in but with no and your relationship with other players who have come in. Let me drop that name. Yes so I I'd say I respect the work and the job that far on and Scott hairs are are. GM have to do which which is to decide on on what the roster is going to look like and it's my job to be a thought partner with them on those decisions but then also to I fully support and and get the most out of the players that come into the clubhouse in our on our major league roster rather than speaking to individuals I can speak to characteristics heuristic value I value and respect hard play gritty play Fiery play guys that are tough and that are gonNA scratch and claw in grind for every possible advantage so rather than speak to anyone individuals individual. I can tell you that the character characteristics value. Are Those understood. Some of the characteristics centered on. Roy Does maybe the last thing would be. What could you tell giant Ryan fans about the twenty twenty giants that would make them encouraged after three straight losing seasons here? Yeah I think the thing that comes to mind immediately is when teams get on their charters to fly back to their home cities after playing three game series in San Francisco Cisco we expect for them to be exhausted because of our grind our hustle our determination and our fight. So I think that's brand of baseball. That giants fans can get on board with and one that our clubhouse our players our staff will be proud to play and I think that's an that's an entertaining brand of major league baseball. Well good enough. Thank you very much thank you. Thank you for listening to this. Episode of the giant Splash. We'll have more your podcast leading up to spring. Training and throughout training camp giant splash is part of the San Francisco. Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is editor editor in chief. Follow me on twitter at Hank Shulman or you can email me at. H SCHULMAN AT SF CHRONICLE DOT com support giants splash channel great journalism with a subscription to the San Francisco Chronicle there are print and digital editions available find out more at SF chronicle dot com slash slash subscribe.

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Is Gabe Kapler the Right Manager?

Giants Splash

19:36 min | 1 year ago

Is Gabe Kapler the Right Manager?

"Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast tune in for personal interviews with the world's top. Rock climbers surfers skiers ultra runners. And much more. If you like getting outside exploring you'll dig wild west. Find it wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to the giants splash. PODCAST I'm your host Chronicle Baseball Writers Susan's lesser and today and killing and I are going to talk about the giants. It's new managerial higher. Gabe Catholic. We started off our conversation talking about the most unusual press conference today at Oracle Park. Welcome to the San Francisco. Chronicle's giants splash. PODCAST I'm your host for once not Henry Shulman it's me Susan's lesser Filling in while Henry is a much deserved vacation in well. John Shea is at the baseball General Manager meetings in Scottsdale and killing and I covered the Gabe Kappler press conference the introduction of the new giants manager a which was certainly an unusual press conference and you and I have attended many oppressor introducing a manager or a new player in new executive and this one Before you're GonNa Questions were even asked journal Manage Team President Farm on safety Address the allegations of dodgers players assault against an underage girl and also another woman That occurred while he and gave copper. We're both with the dodgers. Kappler was in charge of the the dodgers minor league system. At the time you have written about this topic COUPLE OF TIMES A. You're obviously writing about it again. And you asked asked numerous questions during the press conference about it What's your takeaway from the way the giants handle this today? And how surprised were you first with the press conference and and really just with the with the hiring altogether given this what we know about these incidents. Well I I gotta say. I'm a little surprised at the higher We've been hearing Gabe Kaplan. It was named for weeks now as soon as he got fired from the phillies even maybe even before he got fired when his his fate was kinda hanging in the balance because everyone knew he had a relationship ship with far Han but because these allegations which surfaced last February even they took place in two thousand fifteen but they really came to light late last February in a couple of different national publications and We you know I think given the difficulties. The giants silence have had with not only their on field performance but some of the off field issues surrounding Larry Baer surrounding the majority owner. Charles Johnson Just the fact that they're lose. They've lost a chunk of their fan base. People have gotten very disillusioned with the team and it just seemed like an odd time to hire a guy who comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of Highly sensitive baggage of issues that That are or not very palatable to people regarding sexual assault and how it was handled which speaks to his decision making to be quite frank. It's not just that these things took place but it was was did he make the right decisions And and then you add on top of it the fact that he was a major league manager and not a very good one and in had to really underachieving seasons in Philadelphia and There were other candidates and so I am surprised that they hired him and then again. I am surprised I'm not surprised by the tenor of the press conference. Because you knew it was going to be like this. You knew when far Hawn had a conference call last night you knew. When he went on the radio this morning you knew when he opened the press conference with remarks addressing what happened in the dodgers Farm system for years ago Still it was a hour long Interrogation really not a coronation Russian. And you know you've you grew up here in. You know the team you cover has had. It's not recently but has changed managers Alive in recent years. The giants have had such stability at that position. They've had four managers in thirty five years saying Roger Craig Dusty. St Baker Philippe illu the shortest tenure. With I think six years and then Bruce Bocce and and to have All this controversy following on the heels of all that goodwill that Bucci left behind is just. It's very odd it is. It was a strange press conference. I mean I guess you could argue that if Farhan is willing to make a higher under these circumstances knowing. There's going to be some uproar that they're going to be a lot of questions asked he's either very very convinced. This is the right guy for the job Even more so than he might have been for anyone else because he knew this was coming and it can't be an easy position to be in And and you would hope extremely convinced that the things he's saying. I E that he thought that Kappler Handled that as well has he could have at the time now. They've both said. They wished they had handled things differently. In retrospect they wish they had consulted with outside experts. They I wish they had been more supportive of the victims Kappler you have criticized him for trying to set up sort of a meeting between the alleged inch perpetrator and the underage victim. Who at the time? Kappler did not know that there was any allegation of sexual assault that was later she had allegedly at that time been assaulted by another woman and it was filmed by dodgers player. That was So to make that clear at the time that was his working knowledge but he did try to mediate a session between them which he spent and he really kind of said today that that was Non Yeah not. That was not really what he should have. I've been doing so I think he's learned a lot from it and clearly not just far Han but the rest of the giants brass are convinced that lessons were learned. And that's enough and I guess they feel like the incident Get something that. They're willing to overlook the wrong word. But certainly it's not enough to have kept them from hiring well and the the thing that you know more and more has come to light during this process. Is They have to overlook it or else. They have to hold far haunt accountable accountable too because Farhan was also a decision maker in that process with the dodgers. He was one of the guys that that Kappler reported up the chain to Oh and was also involved in not going to the police in punting it to the legal team in the legal team was basically You know duck and cover hover was their strategy and and you know they didn't inform authorities and and so You know I think that it's weird. It makes a a weird bond Between Kappler and far Han that they had each other's back back then when they had to make this they they were making. What many would consider the wrong decisions? And now they're going to be decision makers here with the giants and sure so. I'm sure there's trust between the two some of them and learning processes between the two of them. But I don't know how well that's GonNa be viewed from the outside like. Can you trust their decision making together. I also also You know and you and I have. We're we're both women. Obviously we've both been working in this business for about the same amount of time which is a hell of a long time and you know I just. It's just kind of familiar scenario. You know you. When when incidents of domestic violence or sexual assault happen they dr trivialized or overlooked or kind of swept away when they happen then if they kinda resurface or someone's held accountable then there's a whole bunch chipper hand wringing and apologizing? You know talk about lessons learned and all of that and then everyone goes on with their business anyway. Like people aren't really held accountable. Well let's say in this case in one of the things that is a little bit different than some of these others was an far. Home was very clear about this and emphasized at numerous times. There was no effort certainly by Kappler to cover anything up. You know what I went up the chain. He has not denied anything Certainly anywhere along the line So the fact that there wasn't any purported cover up or anything like that Maybe it was just massive massive naievety. Yeah perhaps and it feels that way it feels like naievety and which is weird because it was four years ago. We're we're not talking about like nineteen sixty five or even nineteen ninety-two. We're talking about a world in which Ray Rice had just you know been caught on video a year earlier punching punching his his fiancee. I mean we we. It's not like this happened in in the dark ages and so sometimes when I I appreciate people have saying lessons learned and we're going to be better and do better but it's like really. That was not very long ago and they were grown men making decisions about this at the time and it just felt like they were protecting you know the players. which are you know? They're commodity I'll be back with more with my conversation with an Killian after this contour from Cox has all your favorites all in one place and with the contour remote you can use your voice to fund them on live TV on demand. Streaming APPs like netflix prime video and more see Cox dot com for details. Covers talked about the fact that he and his ex wife had a domestic violence charitable foundation. Because she herself had been the victim of domestic violence wanted a previous relationship He has suggested in places where the things he'd learned from that organization. He sort of tried to apply. I think in this instance things like mediation and things like that when it was you know equitable situations. Obviously so I think he said well some of this was was trying to come from a good place and try to handle things in a good way and it was the wrong thing to do but it wasn't done maliciously or with criminal intent to where it was it was trying you to help things. It didn't right backfired and I think a sampled the former as outfielder Who somebody that I covered and respect a lot is very close friends with Kappler and he said the fact that this incident happened at all? Not The fact that it's been publicized that it's been a problem for him but the fact that this incident happened and and was And Kappler feels like he did mishandle at has really kind of crushed him and been very difficult for him because he has had that background with domestic violence advocates at advocating for victims of domestic violence rape. But but again I find it odd that if you have that in your background and you've have those connections In your faced in a decision making capability with how do you handle it. What's the right thing to do? You don't turn to those resources instead you go out over your skis as he said it and try to do it on your own instead of knowing that there is a huge network I mean I've had this this issue with other sports franchises including the forty niners about not tapping into these resources. That are are available and WanNa help in wanted WANNA guide organizations through this this messy ugly situation So it just seems odd that he had that background and yet didn't tap back into it sometimes. A little knowledge is actually a dangerous thing. I think I've familiar with domestic situations. I know you know. This woman. Allegedly had had been assaulted by two women and physically And I think he was thinking. Well this is Domestic violence situation oldest step in and handle this and obviously it was not turned out later. She you know there were accusations of sexual assault and Yeah it was I. It was not his place to to do that when I talked to a realized I talked to him and asked asked him. Do you have a daughter because I mean I have a daughter and I can't imagine suggesting that a teenage girl sit down with two men who were There when she was is being assaulted and videotape and videos. I mean diligent. Yeah so I mean I mean the whole thing is is messy and ugly and And sample may be right. It may have tortured him. But it only came to stick came to light in February right And we know how it came delight. Obviously there was a disgruntled former employee. Who who made sure people knew about this but be that as it may the fact that these Kappler admits that these two incidents happened in in his unhappy about the way he handled them in? So I don't know you know. He was a candidate for the dodgers job. I don't know this handling handling with disgust. Obviously that's the same as Asian. I don't know if it ever came up when he was a candidate for the phillies job. And and then it came out in February. And now you you know so. It's it's relatively fresh. which is one of the reasons? It's being rehashed Even though these things happen for years ago they've only been known about since you know in the last last seven months. Well it was a very strange strange strange press opening press conference he no. There's very few as you mentioned. There's only thirty of these jobs The giants have had had so few of them. The these openings come up and then you spend the majority of the press conference talking about this. This topic is very very strange. I talked talked to numerous former teammates. Kappler's people who know him pretty well Today and Two guys declined to talk not not out of from from my. You know just didn't have time but everyone else that I spoke to was incredibly enthusiastic. The level of passion a little commitment. The you know how knowledgeable and Quick he has to learn. What do you think just in terms of him? Put this incident the side and the way he handled it and potentially decision making with with that with do you think of him sheerly as a potential manager. Well I mean that we don't know from one we don't know because we don't know what decisions he'll be making right. I mean that's the big thing I mean he's going to be. You did ask that. He's he's not really beat around the Bush you basically ask. Are you going to be a puppet. I think I might have but so obviously obviously far on his controlling the roster The new guy the new general general manager might be making out the lineup. I mean what. So he's GonNa be taught you know dealing with the clubhouse dealing with the chemistry and it was interesting hearing him. Talk about Changing the culture and getting being the culture right and looking behind me at buster Posey who kind of had this bemused look on his face and I just wanted to know what was going through. His head is like you know like I've been here. Well well we had a pretty good culture. It's kind of all about having really good players right so I mean I know that with the phillies did a lot of unconventional things. People blame him for sure Some things that went wrong including Cousins injury which is too bad I know that You know they. They are considered to have underachieved And they tailed off badly at the end of both seasons which to me is always a bad sign about how eighteen is connecting and and how cohesive it is I I don't think the giants are going to be very good next year and so it's one thing to not be very good under Bruce Bochy. It's another thing to not be very good under Gabe Kaplan and I don't know how you know ardy swaths of empty seats for the last two years. I just don't know I don't on how it's GonNa how it's going to go over. Yeah and I wonder how long the leashes you know that they if they aren't going to be very good which they probably shouldn't be like. What are the expectations for him? Realistically now he did say he was going to rely on. Buster Posey A lot. He's talked to Bruce Bochy. I think he feels like he can go. Bruce Bocce with the questions and has had an has house them for him. He's got run motus he's got Ron Modus back. Which makes you know makes fans feel good of a million face? I think we were all in favor of that So but it is going to be interesting He is a polarizing figure. There's no doubt about that. And he always has been he's always been sort of people either love him or they can't stand. I'm Kinda Guy I ask Sam fold about that and Sam said that's his because he's got such a big strong personality opinionated he's not afraid to state his opinions ends but he also listens like he will. You can talk him out of a position if you give him the facts and and you convince him You know he's not. He's not a dummy that's for sure but now does have a big strong right. Now any any comes with words I mean from his detractors call him narcissistic and arrogant Polarizing so so. It's just interesting because those are not words that have been associated with the person who has held this position right in the past down. This is not the I mean yes. It's one thirty jobs but just because it's the giants and they haven't had any that many over the last thirty five years it's not like is not becoming the pope or something thank you smoke. I saw smoking no baseball. It is but it is one with a pretty strong lineage H. and and the and the truth is Now no offense to buster but I mean because far haunt you know is a pretty low key keith guy. Because Larry Baird's now in a much reduced position on Cape Kepler's can be the face of the team and a high. I don't know how that goes over either. You know I mean I mean there is no I mean Bruce Bocce Gut Gut Kinda lucky because even though people aren't super excited when he first got here. Timmy had already you kind of become the face of the team So you know there was there. I don't know it's just. It's a whole different era. Yeah well it's GonNa be interesting to to gauge on my behalf for from far from the other side. This hour Bob. Melvin is now the height of stability yet longest serving manager right right now so that keeps going all right and Killian. Thanks so much for joining us on giant splash and I'll go back to as land now. Thanks again to an Kilian for joining us. On the giants splash podcast. You could read her work and mine on on. SF CHRONICLE DOT COM. And it's also on twitter at an Killian and I'm at Susan's lesser. Our producer today is g Alan Johnson. Thanks again for listening. Giants double plays part of the San Francisco. Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is editor in chief. If if you like this show please subscribe Tele Friend or give us a review. You can support giants double play in a lot of great journalism. 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Gabe Kapler Motivated During Coronavirus Downtime

Giants Splash

25:39 min | 1 year ago

Gabe Kapler Motivated During Coronavirus Downtime

"Hello and welcome to the giant splash. I'm John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle and I'm joined today by the manager of the Ballclub Gabe Kappler. Even though baseball remained shutdown Gabe and so many in the organization remained busy. We address some of their activities. Including how the coaches and players continue to prepare away from the ballpark plus a revealing. Qna The staff had with will Clark and how the coaches and players can benefit from the presence of one Barry Bonds. Thanks for coming on gave and the first question I would have is is How are you coping right now? How our things in are you all good right now? John like air value in your family as well. My my family's doing well. I'm doing well Both of my sons are thriving in their school environments by older such as that at UCLA. And he's getting back into his online courses. My son Dane My eighteen year old is thinking about the fall already playing football of University of British Columbia. And the way. I'm staying busy today as I drove out to Pick up my bass guitar out a few hours free this morning so I drove to indio from Scottsdale the Bass Guitar. Put it in my trunk. friend brought it to me. And I'm I'm headed back to Scottsdale now settled back in for the rest of the work day today. Things are going on certainly productive about you. Well that sounds great. We Acoustic or electric Bass Guitar and We have a couple of people around the organization who play. We talked about doing some jam sessions together. One of them is a are are traveling secretary or our travel lead in. I might get together and play music together. I remember back to being in Tampa Bay as a player Longoria myself. Fernando Perez other players who played instruments or get into jam session regular basis We'd have a play set up where we could go play. Rocco Ball Deli was involved in that as well So I think it's a really good way to stay connected. Play music together songs. Wanted to make sure that I have my base boy. That's beautiful sounds like a great zoom opportunity these days but I think you're using probably for other reasons. That's about my family. I can relate you have an eighteen year old. I have a seventeen year old. Who's using zoom every day in school? Which is a great thing for these kids? It's a classroom setting and it's a lecture. It's a class participation. It's as if you're there and it's a really cool thing. I myself spend Easter on zoom. Usually I get together with the family but wasn't to happen this time. Anyway what could I could ask. What a typical day is for you. You know from communicating with your staff and players and front office to even do in the personal things like like eating or cooking or working out under You know obviously you have to prepare for a season that may or may not come but the communication factor I imagine is paramount. And what's Your Day like in these times? A great a great question and you mentioned you mentioned zoo. I think we're lucky that we're sheltering in place in a time where we can use various types of technology if they face to face and I don't think You know obviously. We're we're leveraging technology every single day and you asked about my my routine I it starts with these these zoom calls. And it's not just me but it's all of our coaches. I think that unique time where we we're going to look back and say we build lasting processes during this time. They did it. Just serve the giants right now but also three five ten years from now and specifically each department hitting catching pitching outfield and infield are connecting. Not just with our major league stopped but also with the Minor Leagues Often Kyle Haynes or Fawn director done a tremendous job of of facilitating meetings as well as our major league coaches were building communication with our minor league coaches for the zoom calls. That we haven't another time in history where we've been able to see these things play out because we just haven't had the time in the day the what's happened. John is the relationships are being built between our miley getting coaches in our major league getting coaches and Antoine. Richardson are outfield. Base running coach is facilitating these zoom calls. So that our outfielders in the minor league and at the major league level. So if you can if you can picture under bishop and you Stransky on these calls with all of our minor league coaches and Major League outfielder outfield base running coaches all having conversations about first step quickness and about winning the first three steps. You can see that we're collaborating as an organization right now using these technologies that that you reference so that's the main part of my day and and a part of my day that I'm most proud of is participating in and and helping facilitating facilitate some of these calls utilizing technology. Well what a great opportunity and experience for these younger guys to actually be on the call with the bigly coaches and the big league players very very cool opportunity it and like I said kind of unprecedented. I think as a farm director when I played that role and then as a major league staff number you always dream about connecting minor league and Major League coaches and players alike because minor league players get so much out of hearing major league players talk and seeing them face to face. But you never have the bandwidth to make it happen and we really see this as competitive window for us to be better than than other organizations out this and you know. I. I don't mean mean mean to say that other organizations are doing. The same thing I would say is is that we're we're staying connected and being very diligent and deliberate and intentional about getting together in big groups and building those relationships. So I I'm sure you assign the outfield coach to the outfield. Infield coach of the infielders. But how about the coaches? You have three of them. Dinakar in Jacksonville destined land do do does one of them work with Buster. Posey brand belt somebody else in another work with Crawford and Laurean somebody else or do they all still work with everybody. I think it's more alward. Everybody but I do know that. They're giving up responsibilities and saying tight communication about. Who's discuss what with who the other thing that I think is is really cool. Is that the three coaches that you mentioned. Johnny Johnson and Johnson are also doing a great job of saint connected with our minor league. Any coordinator Dave Hansen Michael. Vidar the minor league level. All of our minor league hitting coaches. They're talking about the tools that they use to reach. These players author talking about. What drills are our best and most optimal and then they're getting their collectively getting those drills and those options to our players a menu of sorts. Speaking coaches I I wrote a bunch of stories about a lot of them in my my laundry list. What was on Andrew Bailey? The pitching coach another was on the three hitting coaches. We mentioned Donnie and Justin and Dustin another on Kaikoura who's WHO's In fact I was working on a second one with him the art of the fungus which which the way he uses metrics an hitting ground balls to the right side just some fabulous stuff Before we left spring training and other US before he was going to meet up with Bocce in the world baseball classic which didn't happen and another on Antoine. The First Base Coach and Outfield coaching. Maybe my favorite was story on a lesson. Natkin who who fit in like it was a non story almost of course it's historic and magnificent and wonderful that a woman is coaching in the big leagues. But as Brandon Crawford told me it should be almost like normal wise. Why is she the only one so but anyway with with that one thing I noticed while talking to most of them are all of them all at once. I spoke with our Even though the poaching in the bigs for the first time none seemed entitled Enunciate Bigheaded all seemed willing to pitch in and do their part big and small And without Egos really so I mean am I close on that one. I think that's right I think. We'VE WE'VE DESIGNED OUR STAFF TO BE COLLABORATIVE WE'VE designed it to weave in and out of lanes though You know one of the things that I think is really interesting is how inclusive. Antoine is Not just with Elissa who is kind of on his team in the outfield base running department But with everybody in the entire organization so you know we have our mental skills coach. We have our strength and conditioning coach. We have minor league Analysts all on the same call with those outfielders and baserunners discussing outfield play. So I think one of the things that makes our unique is that we don't exclude we. We try to be as inclusive as possible and we try to do the little things that make people feel like they're part of a team and have a future with the organization And that's a very intentional step. We've taken It's not it's not random it was certainly part of. The hiring process is we. We thought about who might make the make the best major league coaches for us. We wanted people who are going to invite other coaches and players into their space. And I think that's one of the things that I've been most proud of with our major leagues. Now what's one thing you didn't know about one of these coaches that kind of blew you away and sprint train Well I certainly pride myself on on learning as much as I can about a coach before we we offer them a picture on our staff. I guess one thing I didn't realize was how impactful Dick Ortiz. We're going to turn out to be A stellar reputation with the Yankees Organization. I spoke to just several Puerto Rican coaches that I have respect for and then about success in a game for a really long time and they thought that they would make a great major league coach or other things I think is interesting about next forty six years old and he really has provided a great deal of wisdom and balance to a very very young assertive coaching staff. He kind of brings out experience You know really. Twenty plus years of professional baseball experience and the component of being a native Spanish speaker. So he's been able to connect with with guys like Wilmer Flores and Pablo Sandoval all Some of our young Forty minutes pitchers and really bring them into this time of uncertainty endure their thoughts so It's not that I didn't know that. Nick was great talented. Maybe I just didn't recognize what incredible holistic impacts heat up on our Major League. Coaching staff in on our players simply by the experience that he's brought to our staff. We'll be back with more of Gabe Kaplan right after this quick break. Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth emission except not the physical that the mission since we're all working at home fifth and mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so. Check it out that the mission wherever you get your podcasts with thirteen coaches and it's probably not much room in the coach's office as is historically the giants have brought in players throughout spring training like alumni or advisers ambassadors. Just to hang out Provide Guidance If anybody has any questions I mean Barry Bonds was there for Los Spell Willie mays of course I think will Clark was flying in the day. Spring training ended and flew back to Louisiana Do you bond specifically. Do you see a role for him to talk to him. Much at all And you know you have three hitting coaches and you know there's probably not a better person on the planet who knows more about hitting than bonds He's back with the team. But how could he benefit you at all or the coaches or the players with his presence he could he could benefit all of us like we. We all have a ton to learn for very bond and I think from his ability to talk about how to compete in the batter's box in the batting cage and make an impact on our Our coaches and our players to is ability. Tell me and give me insight about the fans at San Francisco having such a long history of connecting with them Twos ability to just talk generally about outbuilding basement and one of the things he was very impactful in Surrey. Campus was working with our basement and specifically reading moved from our picture from from pictures from second base knowing when the right time deal is Utilizing confidence on the basis things of that nature. There's so many ways that berry can make an impact and you had mentioned will Clark one of the things I wanted to share with you. John is he recently. Q. And A. With US on Friday. Our entire coaching staff and an extension of our coaching staff in our strength and conditioning department our Medical Department Art Attrition Department and he just killed it our coach Ramble to ask. Ask Him questions about anything. Under the sun including fly second base his infamous Kinda slide. Tackle that started abroad and second base including Ozzie. Smith But also you know his tremendous ability to recall his mindset from his best seasons. Like one thousand nine hundred nine and share that insight? But I think the thing that stood out most about well it's how he he managed to the room because everybody by their first names Before we got on the call and zoom call he had done research on everybody on our staff And he just warmed the room in an incredible way. So I think it was an excellent It was an excellent learned. Not Just on real quarks baseball argument but also on his communications now. So you talk about somebody that I'd bet on to make an impact on this coaching staff. And into the future for the San Francisco giants probably will Clark Pretty amazing stuff the to the best hitters in giants history bonds and Clark were discussing base running Kinda shows they're completely completeness as ballplayers Did I mean are you into nostalgia? Baseball history You know you and I have spoken before about You know you grew up. You Love Pete Rose He Fred mcgriff you love it a lot of the Blue Jays. That was your t ball team as a kid. You love the uniform. But now you're in the giants dodgers rivalry. You saw from the other side to an extent not an bigly uniform overseeing the The minor league system etc I'm sure as a kid you follow. Many baseball players. Probably not many managers. I mean what What kid does but now you are one and I thought I'd ask you just to Ask You if if nostalgia is a big part of of who you are because I think the way I fell in love with baseball in the way I fell in love with with baseball. Staten was there studying the history of the game. Some of my earliest book reports as a kid. We're on players. Like Pete Rose and ty calm before him fascinated by cyclops style of play and how aggressive he was. Kanana's I got into my like kind of maybe like the mid eighties is when I really fell in love with with Baseball Card. Collecting and guys like world volume. Of course the perfect example as I as I got into my own professional baseball career stayed in close contact with the work. That will guard was doing just the fact that the last four years of his career hit over three hundred and understanding that nobody retires anymore at that sort of. Pique any played three or four more years at that level of play. I mean who knows how we'd be talking about. Martin has an industry but it wasn't just well. It was definitely those those nineteen eighties bait eighty giant team. That I follow very carefully and to your point about two dollars a I'm I'm I'm baseball. I'm a baseball nut dating back my time. Elementary school kids. You know what You speak a will. Clark reminds me of when the last interviews I did on Maurizio do bond and he spoke he reminded me of a young will. Maurizio closer to mid twenty S. Well came up early. Twenties and Dupont bond spent a lot more time in the minors will was just the natural right and he came up saying things like I want to change the culture of this team. I don't give a darn about the candlestick wind. I want to produce a winner. I WanNa be the guy you lean on and in the middle of this interview. I had with Dupont. I told them I said you know who will Clark is because you're sounded an awful A lot like him and he hadn't met I hadn't spoken with them at length at all was looking forward to it and it. It amazes me talking to Dan how confident he is. And he says cocky but humble was his quote. I'm cocky but humble which which says a lot for a kid who doesn't have that much service time but he's gifted enough athletic enough and he believes in himself enough that he that he wants to be the guy in the future that this team and yourself and his teammates lean on pretty impressive for offer a guy like that absolutely and I think the pretty lofty comparison. Obviously I know you're not you're not comparing Ubon. Swing them defenders or anything like that. What you're saying is you you hear a confidence and an investment coming from Dubai similar to the one that you heard from well carcass. Young player I I think To be able to the file to be able to cook recall how will was and how he behaves at the beginning. It was really interesting but I'll give you a story under bonded. I think is really cool recently. Been speaking of sliding he recently sent me a video of a slide and he asked me if I thought it was illegal slide so we went back and forth on pets and talk it through when I found fascinating was. He's thinking about the tiny details of the game and how far off the bag and still having the legal side because he knows what it's like to be a middle infielder turn double play And it is back Communist. It is that that confidence that it is out of touch the details that makes special major league players and that investment in the giants and the giants coach. Doesn't want to be just good at one thing whenever I've asked you on out of playing multiple positions. It's just been a resounding. Yes any way. You can help the team win. Anyway you get on the field. He never wants to come out of the lineup. And I have a tremendous level of respect for players with that level of confidence plus out level level of felt business so I think his assessment of cockiness but maintaining a level of humility. In very well just looking back the last day of spring training if you recall I was out there in surprise it was it was giants. Rangers dickerson opens with a triple score. A bunch of runs in the first inning. And it's called five because a wet ground so it's a tie and we huddled with you afterward and we didn't know it was going to be the end but you said you were prepared for the dodgers. The dodgers were preparing for the giants. And and that you have to be ready for any outcome and that's the way baseball people are that's their DNA. You know in the moment willing to take whatever road is necessary. A game adjustments right. I mean The the ultimate adjustment. Just just happened hours later. I mean we didn't know that that was going to be the last day. But that was the night rudy. Gobert the Mavericks tested positives in the sports world changed forever. But do you ever reflect on on your last day in camp and wonder how strange that really was because you named an opening day starter and we wrote it down and made a headline out of it before later that night with with with bare but it was. It wasn't business as usual because we were still distanced. We you know we are not You know allowed in the clubhouse we you know we we knew about washing hands and social distancing everything but but you play baseball that day now we play baseball in front of your point thousands of fans and I think what it really was was kind of a sign of time and I certainly do reflect on it and wonder you know what would have happened if you know. We kept playing from that point and how many players would have been would have had the virus and you know the one thing I say. I'm appreciative the Major League Baseball. Get when it did very appreciative? Simpson's go giants to such swift action to shut down our facilities while valid. Still very much a question. What would we be working out our at our facility than I thought we took we took swift action trot and so looking back on? I time I don't think we had any idea what was coming but certainly in the days that followed. I think we really important action stuff that our they should be proud of. Yeah and just a reminder that that was the Wednesday and you had the scheduled off Thursday anyway everybody else in the valley you showed up and worked out and they actually play Games in Florida the next morning but but you're almost fortunate not to have a scheduled camp day. It was. It was the was the first off that you're going to have to at the time. Those were major decision right. Just right now Our country and the world every day seems like a major decision is being made and so yeah I mean I think that when I look back to that time time and the days that followed that last game you highlight highlighted those were decision-making times and opportunity for us to take leadership stops and really proud of the way. The giant ant would've major league baseball as well once once they shut things down. Well thanks so much gave. This is a wonderful to catch up with you and it sounds like you're as busy as ever with the staff and your family and now the Bass Guitar. So congratulations with all that. And Best of luck with everything and safety to you. I appreciate it. I think every every window and every conversation as an opportunity to compete and your point we're going to try to compete never every moment that we have until we get back together and get back to work great. Thanks again John. Thank you for listening to this. Episode of the Giants Splash. 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#32: Gabe Kapler, 18 Game NFL Season, Chris Paul

You're Wrong... And Here's Why

1:00:05 hr | 2 years ago

#32: Gabe Kapler, 18 Game NFL Season, Chris Paul

"The following podcast is part of Underdog Sports podcast network for advertising information or to find more great podcasts visit us at W._w._w.. The underdog sports DOT COM and follow us on twitter at Real v Underdog. They don't know along India's Tulsi like the time rabbit is Lebron James The did did welcome to your wrong and here's why I'm Chris joined by Greg Krone Gregory. It has been just a brief minute since we spoke last. What a whirlwind Chris but I will tell you it is good to be back and hopefully on a semi regular schedule schedule well? Yes it will be more regular moving forward. That is my fingers crossed. Let's hope it works out promised to all the view we have since since we've been gone I guess we actually we saw each other. You went to Poland. Lots of stuff has happened and another thing that happened is the phillies just completely fell apart. We're going to talk about why the Phillies have to fire Gabe Kaplan. We're going to talk about why and eighteen game season. We're players can only play sixteen games. Actually actually proposed is ridiculous and why Chris Paul not going to be traded from the thunder before the trade deadline. Let's kick it off for a little peek behind the curtain which I like to do every so often here. I think it's fair to say see that in this episode we both kind of screwed each other with topic choices and one of those is this. I one where I'm going to ask you to to tell me why gave Kappler shouldn't be fired. I because there's just no reason there. There's no reason this guy she's still be the manager of the Philadelphia Phillies. This team comes into the season with so much promise with so much hope Bryce Harper's here now gene S- Agora and all of these other additions and they're sitting there in third place place in the fifty and forty seven inches inches over five hundred which is not acceptable for this team for this club. They're not scoring runs. The pitching staff is just utterly horrible. There is nothing and good about this team right now and oh by the way a bunch of the guys. Just don't try on a regular basis Chris. You said it you said it pretty perfectly and here's here's undefeated moving yeah. Here's here's my issue with why why I can see the reason to not fire Kappler. I think the pitching staff is really where you kind of hit the nail in the head and this is where the front office let Gabe Kaplan down. It's continued to let Gabe Kaplan down as the season war on all of the injuries that this this pitching staff has suffered. I mean you're talking about the biggest acquisition pitching wise that you made in David Robertson going out almost immediately as the season started patent check out jared I cough out Victor Ronco Out Tommy Hunter Out Ediborah Rama's even though he's thinks out three Anthony Dominguez being human also and then also being out. It's it's one of those things is where I find it really hard to blame Gabe Kappler for the pitching situation that has got the phillies into this. I mean I saw stat the other day that the Phillies I think had twenty three saves on the year and they have twelve blown saves and that actually may have gone up because the other night of the blown save that they had that they were forced to then come back in the bottom of the ninth inning to actually win which is amazing because I was officially out on the team for the year and then of course in the bottom of the ninth they came back in one but but it's hard to blame the manager for that and we'll get into the not hustling thing which to me is such such a weird contrived storyline and it all stems back to Philly radio poking the bear regarding the Andrew mccutchen injury. I think you're look I'm I'm the first person to knock Philadelphia sports radio because it is often times ridiculous and I didn't. I didn't really understand that until I had a little bit of experience listening to other places and I'm not gonna say that Bay Area Sports Talk Radio is perfect but oh my God I got out here and I'm like wait a second. They're not just saying dumb things to say things and yelling at each other other what what is this what this isn't sports radio and then I realized overnight Philadelphia sports radio is just garbage. It's terrible and it was a contrived storyline that that ends up festering and festering spring and now every time something happens where somebody may not run something out at some big ordeal and it's been this way since the Times of Jimmy Rollins in Ryan Howard and the glory days of the Phillies in the last twenty plus years. It's it's it's baffling to me to think that because gene Segarra who fell coming out of the box when Wong and hit that that pop fly to second base he clearly trip and fell in Kinzler made the heads up play of letting the ball oil droplets get Makuuchi now get him off the base path and unfortunately a guy in his early thirties blew his knee out. You know I mean it's baffling but I don't think the effort here on the base pass which is what everybody wants to focus on is necessarily the problem with the phillies and it all goes back to pitching scoring bruns fell apart when mccutchen left and that's obvious he's the former M._v._p.. who was at the top of your lineup and having a stellar year sort of you know unexpectedly? I don't think anybody really expected him to be as productive. He was prior to him going out when the phillies signed him. It felt sort of a lukewarm. Hey let's give this a shot kind of thing and then maybe we'll bring a young guy up if he doesn't work out I mean you also feels like every every time we get something going. Someone goes down recently Jay Bruce who's been a sort of a godsend to the phillies he goes down with an oblique strain. It's it's just everything continues to pile up for us and and I can't blame that all on Kappler I blame the front office more. We talked about it the other night during the debacle. That was the top of the ninth inning against the dodgers. We talked about a regarding regarding guys. were out there to secure. You're pitching staff. You know you know you have a small window in baseball when it comes to sustaining any sort of success and for a guy like Craig Kimbrel to go deepen the season Dallas Kaikal to go deep into the season and not even really get serious consideration from what it feels like from this front office that wanted to spend stupid money to win. Again is a little bit concerning. These injuries didn't happen after these guys signed and it's like Oh shucks. Maybe we should've thought of that. These injuries were happening from week. One and two of the season I mean who could have thought that a guy like Craig Craig Kimbrel Cook could have helped this bullpen. That's been absolutely terrible terrible. That's fair and I do think that there was much too much made of the SEGARRA thing but you can't argue that watching guys like Mike Hell Franko who is notoriously not a hustle guy and and and now Caesar Hernandez to the watching them loafer on the basis and not take stuff seriously that stuff is cancerous you know in the attitudes on this team are not going in the right direction. It's weird that a guy like bryce Harper seems to be the most like Rod team guy on this entire roster and maybe it's easy to do that when you're making as much money as he is but there's a lot of problem children own this team what I okay. I'm GONNA play a little game here. I got the phillies pitching numbers up right now. How many players do you think have thrown a pitch for the phillies the season including position players because I know that's happened at least once or twice in this illustrious season? I would say that it's probably in the range of twenty two gregory. It's twenty nine nine different players have thrown a pitch for the phillies pitch by the pitched at least one full inning including as you mentioned guys like Roman Quinn Sean Rodriguez in Aaron Al Tear this is this is bad and of those twenty nine players. Let's let's keep he playing this game of those twenty nine players. How many of them do you think have your as under three point five four gregory it is for those players are can you guess do those players? Are that'd be that'd be impressive. I would say it's probably Aaron Nola. Nope I know his he had just dropped zero a little bit over for a full point and I thought he knows it three point seven seven. I figured he was close. No all right one of them is Jose Alvarez three point four one has is thrown thirty seven innings. The second one is Roger. Suarez has thrown fourteen innings. The next one is Tommy Hunter has a zero point zero zero era at this point in five games five point one innings and then the guy who really needs to be on the mound a lot more easily the most productive pitcher from analytic standpoint for these Philadelphia phillies season is third baseman Sean Rodriguez throwing his one inning with a whip of zero grow in the I._R._A.. Of Zero and striking out nine batters per innings on average without walking a single one Sean Rodriguez the best pitcher so far for the phillies this season can you you have guests at who who has the highest era on the Phillies at this point. I'm wouldn't be shocked that it was hector narrows but I'm sure it's Vince Alaska's you would you would like to think the things were that bad. Velazquez sits at a four point five four. We are a and there there are two players with the are as nearly nine points higher. One of them is is a position players Roman Quinn who through one point one innings the other X._l.. Rio CEOS thirteen point five yard negative zero point three war. He is striking out six point eight batters per inning printing that that would be fantastic per nine linings this is this is just a disaster but I honestly don't think the numbers are quite as bad as we thought they were. You know you've you're getting an inconsistent performances from guys like Velazquez and Jake Arrieta who unfortunately originally Kinda folks done so at this point doesn't bode super well but I really think that part of this is Kappler is just completely lost his team. I do not think he has the respect of this ball club anymore. Are there systemic problems blooms that probably necessitate some sort of change should should Franko finally be traded Heaven Heaven Forbid. We can't give up. His twenty-eight home runs a year at two twenty five batting average should he be traded sure. Is it time to finally move Volun- from Caesar its second base yeah. It's been time for a while but nobody really wants to give up enough. Moves needs to be made but Kappler has lost this team the biggest move that needs to be made. It's this firing see Caesar my Keller such a weird situation because Caesar Hernandez was supposed to be the this sort of next step three reg- to the next successful crop of guys and she'd been kingery should should've been kingery but who knows that's exactly where I was Gonna go. One of those two will not be here at the end of the trade deadline because you cannot continue to to move kingery around and force them to play fifteen different positions. Whether it's the outfielder third or second short he needs to find a permanent home because he's earned it. King has been one of the real bright spots of this year and after a really sort of struggle filled rookie year kingery has been been absolutely one of the guys that matter on this team. There's no doubt about it as far as as far as moves the need to happen and mentioning Roman Quinn's illustrious e._R._A.. It's fun to me that we found yet. Another thing on the baseball field at Roman Quin can't do it the major league level because he can't hit. You can't feel very well and he certainly not a pitcher so I'm not really sure what he's doing. All I've ever heard about Roman. Quinn is how he's such a contact hitter. He's one of those guys that just puts the ball in play and then he uses speed. He stinks he absolute every time I watch him. Play he striking out. That's not putting the ball in play. It's just not he does not what we expect. It and he's a guy that I think we need to consider passing on and figuring out a way to get him out of here as well now obviously injuries mean moves have to happen and he asked to play and things like that but from what I've seen the juice with Roman Quinn is certainly not worth the squeeze I still I find it hard to believe the Kappler is the main problem them and the guy. That's lost the locker room. I think everybody wants that fiery moment and he's given it to us when it came when it's come to fighting with umpires recently but I don't think that he's going to be the guy that's that's going to go after a player in in the public. I don't think he's going to do it now. He Sat Franco the other night to sort of make an example and it's one of those things where he was waiting for. I guess the right guy to do it score. Do it too because he's been one of the most productive guys but when a guy like like Franko messes up you can easily make an example of that and we'll see how that goes I mean what two and one since then happened with a pretty solid comeback today an impressive impressive comeback the other night after blowing it yet another ninth inning. Lead I just I don't know if moving Kappler at this point is the right move despite everybody sort of calling for his head because of the expectations coming into the season with a roster especially pitching staff that wasn't ready for the big time will you you talk about Segarra. Being one of these pieces of just can't be moved. I mean just can't be punished because he needs to be in the line up to seventy three with a three sixteen O._B.. P He is a replacement level player at this point. That's the unfortunate reality. If there's it's a lot of these guys are playing like replacement level players and that includes J._t.. Mutoko who was supposed to be you know the gigantic force in the middle of this lineup for this team. He's not hitting you know. Hoskins is unfortunately finally looking like that. That rookie. You're batting average is never going to be a reality again though you can't complain about the twenty home runs in the near four hundred EP. That's we'll take that even if he's hitting to sixty bryce is sitting to fifty eight and you like the V._p.. To fifty eight for his money is not enough just garbage and can we stop and by the way Jay Bruce did some wonderful things when he was traded to this team he has not been good sense. Although we actually song played pretty well has not been since he said in two fifty six to seventy three Oh B._p.. That's not a useful baseball player especially for a guy like Bruce who provides let's call it adequate at best defense in the outfield failed but all that said the guy. I never want to see step up to bat for the Philadelphia. Phillies again is Andrew NAP altered. How much more do we need to see to make the determination that at this guy is not a major league baseball player just lost at the plate the defensive skills and the pitch calling have not advanced like we hope they would? He's not a major league player. Let's move on you can find backup catchers his anywhere literally anywhere I I wasn't a starter on a traveling all star team growing up for baseball. I I guarantee you. I could step up to the plate and we do batting practice or face life pitching and I could probably get more hits than Andrew Nap. Just that a sheer luck. It's he stinks he him and Rumen quitted. The two guys really get to me. Map Nap has been here for what it feels like literally. It has to be at least five years if that's not enough to see that this guy is not he's not viable backup catcher in the major leagues. I don't know what to tell you I mean take for all hail Farro. You know all the problems that that guy had these early still better than Andrew Nap and I know you had to get rid of them because to get real Mutoko but but the fact that once a week you're giving real Mutoko arrest on a day game on a Sunday or something like that and Napster backup. What do you expect? What kind of success do you expect? That's why a lot of this blame has the lie on the front office in guys who just signed three year extensions ends because we got bryce Harper but the rest of the roster stinks. It's it's a problem way higher than Gabe Kappler agree disagree and by the way I think you're underselling Alvar Alfaro's a good Major League catcher. He's got thought maybe these strongest arm of any catcher in baseball sitting to seventy three this year ten home runs far is a good baseball player like to compare him in any way to answer nap and by the way I think he's two full years younger than nap at least is just just incredibly unfair and just route to know I really liked Farro and I was bummed. I mean I knew four years younger. Yeah I mean I knew he had to go based on the situation and the trailer but he was certainly a guy that at least provided entertainment attainment phillies team that has been mediocre for the past two years. You know what I mean. I I don't I don't I consider him head and shoulders better than Andrew Nap. Yeah did was a little disappointed to see Sixto Sanchez go but he hasn't really been great in that in that AA team in Jacksonville this year so it is what it is pitching. Prospects are so hitter mess. I don't know I yeah I liked the move and and at the end of the day I think getting real Mutya was probably a big part and actually landing Bryce Harper so it's worth it but yeah this is. This team is is a disaster and you can't get rid of a lot these guys right now. You have to do something that move has to be the coach. It's it's tough. It's tough for me to one hundred percents definitively say that as much as I disagree with some of the stuff that Kappler does I think he's been handcuffed. I think the injuries of handcuffed him and the lack of real presence from the front office making themselves outside of free agency making themselves known and getting this team what they need when they see them struggling I think I think the blame has ally a little bit on them and and Kappler may be the fall guy in the situation but I don't necessarily know if it's one hundred percent justified well. I'll just assume that you think it somewhere in the ninety nine percent range which is going to put you in the same boat as a lot of our listeners nurse and put me firmly in the undefeated boat moving forward. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hello guys semi fighter jail son at checkout my podcast you're welcome with jail son at every every Wednesday on Friday right here at podcast one we cover the latest in mixed martial arts and everything else going on in the world of sport. Listen free to your welcome with jail son and exclusively available at podcast one dot com and on the podcast one APP. If you love the show share it with a friend and leave us a rating and revealing Gregory. We're back and let's talk about the National Football League UH specifically typically this plan to increase the N._F._l.. Season to eighteen games with the caveat that no player can play more than sixteen games in a regular season. You think this is ridiculous. Tell me why here I am Chris Picture this. I am lounging in Poland having a grand old time on a nice family vacation and what comes across my cell phone screen and it has the N._F._L.'s N._F._L.'s proposing an eighteen games schedule where your players can only play sixteen games Chris. What are we doing? Do we do does the N._F._l.. Hate money I mean I know that all an extra game some extra revenue extra extra this extra that but people can become disenfranchised when you go to tune in critical situation you know your every game matters in the N._F._l.. And that's why it's the best and all of a sudden <hes> Carson Jason winces and under center nate Sud fells back there and he's looking to figure out exactly what's going on and he's throwing you know he's going thirteen of thirty two for one hundred seventy five yards and two interceptions in a critical game. That's GONNA Matter Sadder at the end of the season sixteen games. That's what you get every Sunday matters. I don't need a game where I have backup players playing and I know there's benefits and more roster spots. More guys are getting paid. More guys are making living but let's be honest this would make the product suffer and I think that that is where you couldn't lose viewership right now the N._f._l.'s in a situation where they really can't do anything wrong as far as fans go for the most part. They've had their controversies controversies. I'm sure we've all seen it from from different players and things like that but for the most part people who love football are going to watch the N._F._l.. It's just going to be the case because it's really you're only option until Vince McMahon comes comes in starts the X._F._l.. Takes over football we know but but to consider not playing people and being forced to not play someone is insane. It's insane now. You have to strategize while and week to we don't want to play this. This got or teams are just going to treat the first two games of the season as preseason games that technically count this is like Major League Baseball with the all-star game that finally means something it doesn't matter it's dumb thinking if I show up to a game that I paid two hundred fifty dollars for to sit in the nose bleeds and I go out there and I have to watch you know Jimmy Garoppolo. I guess is not a backup anymore. What is that argument? Sorry I watched one of the preeminent quarterbacks in football. I'll play yeah. We'll see we'll see about preeminent quarterbacks. If I have to watch the dude from Iowa who was his backup play come on some respects on the name if I have to watch him line up against J._J.. Kinney and then battled adult for a real game that matters playoff position. It's a joke it's an absolute joke and it would make me not wanNA watch the N._F._l.. Stop It. Here's the thing about that. You might say. It makes me not WANNA watch the N._F._l.. But guess what you're still tuning into every single game without 'cause you're GONNA you're GonNa Watch. Maybe you'll complain but you're GonNa Watch and what if I were to tell you that were already getting a League where these guys don't play play every game only thirty one point four percent of the players in the N._F._l.. Played Sixteen Games last season. We already have this league. What's the downside to having two extra games in addition to it? You you talk about you know every game matters. That's still going to be the case. There's an eighteen game season. Every game is still going to matter that is not going to change its just now. There will be some unique strategy that comes into play. It's never going to be you're never gonNA see C._J.. BEATHARD and she J. Kenny first of all. I I appreciate both of those those those names for the the humorous value of them and the ridiculous value of them but if anything this just sort of illustrates the value of a backup quarterback and the backup quarterback no quarterback at least very few quarterbacks in the N._F._l.. Play Sixteen Games anyway backups play what's the harm and having a couple extra games to get to watch doesn't bother me non see this is Chris. It's baffling guys. Are you act like they're going to strategize. Teams are going to pick and choose. They are gonNA definitely and it's going to backfire on so many of these coaches and so many of these situations the first year of this would be an absolute nightmare in the nightmare. You're going to fans complaining so bad and what is it for. Is it for revenue is that is that what we're doing we already have twenty games with the four preseason games that season ticket holders are spending ending. All of their same hard earned money on their. You're still paying for those games. The teams are still getting that money making my point though if you're paying for these games anyway. Wouldn't you like an extra two of them to count no. I don't all need that. I don't need that if my coal team cannot play in a game and I know you talk about thirty one percent of the League and there's injuries and things like that but yeah that's something that happened in the game that actually it was changed by a situation. It wasn't <hes> you know what this week. We're going to have to sit zach hurts and we'll probably sit. You Know Alshon Jeffery next week. I don't WanNa see that now I it's just you're totally changing. How the game of football is actually played eight and done? I don't get it. I don't see the benefit. If you WANNA do eighteen games. Everybody's eligible to play team games. I'm sorry and guys if they want to sit out and you want to do things like that and there's injuries and that sort of stuff happens than it happens but to constrict a team and restrict them from being able to US guys that they are paying millions of dollars. It is unfair not only to the team but it's also unfair to the fans that pay and watch these teams in support these teams yes yes. There are clearly very strong opinions on this matter from within your household not getting Kris Van I get it. I feel like I'm being teamed up on here and that's okay because my I position as the right position. More Games is better than less games and I think this actually creates a lot of interesting possibilities. What do you do with these extra roster spots? Do you add a couple quarterbacks to hope you find somebody do you you load up on all offensive line because let's not kid ourselves. I think the biggest concern for for teams with all with the half to sit players thing isn't the quarterback. It's the offensive line because if you have to play a bunch of guys who haven't played together a lot the opportunity for guys to get hurt rises exponentially and we certainly don't want an increase in injuries that means I think you're probably going to go from seeing teams carry. I Dunno seven eight offensive LINEMAN's in a regular season now carrying eleven twelve something like that just so that there are competent options whenever needed. I think there's something that's fun to forcing guys to play early to get a chance to get experienced in the N._F._l.. I would be fascinated. Just bring this back to the Philadelphia Eagles here. Since you mentioned soccer's all Sean I would love to see a game where it's like Okay A. and Jordan starting right tackle today cool. Let's see what he's got. Let's see what Josh Sweat can bring a defensive end. Let's see what I was GONNA say Nike but nobody wants to see that. Let's let's see what Sidney Jones has when we force them into the lineup and he has to go match up Mono Amano against some of the best wide receivers in the N._F._l.. I can get behind all of this and we the Eagles Code Kessler now so they are set at backup quarterback back well. You're lucky you made you made my point. So do you want a guy. Who's green is Jordan my Lada showing up he's lining up here? We go planning to Houston Texans and he's getting eaten up and he's getting your quarterback your franchise. Oh no no no no no no no I left tackle and my quarterback handcuffed. They are sitting on the same day no question about it right split that just means that literally just makes this a preseason game that actually counts. That's the way. Hey Doc game was going to feel and then you're going to. You'RE GONNA lose that game as a fan you're GONNA go. I don't really care and that's not what sports should be about. As a fan you want your team to put its best players out there every single chance that it gets because if not then you're watching a watered-down product and all of a sudden we got strategy nerds out here telling me about this player and this plan. We're going to sit this guy then and this guy this. I don't want that. I just want football. I JUST WANNA watch sixteen games. Everybody play everything or do eighteen. Everybody's eligible to play. I don't understand why the N._F._l.. Is a multibillion dollar industry and you can't figure out a way to come to some sort of agreement where hey we're GONNA pay X. amount of dollars. We're going to extend the schedule. We're going to change the contracts this way. We're GONNA add more to the salary. Cap this way. You guys are GonNa make this amount of money. This percentage of TV there has to be a better way than saying. Hey there's eighteen games but you can only play sixteen. If anything thing your offensive line argument when you talk about having to move guys in and out and carrying all these guys the best offensive lines are the guys that play together all the time the continuity of it. That is the thing that you see those teams that are in the playoffs for the most part the ones go for the offensive lines that have been together for an entire season or at least a very extended part of the season now. You're mixing and matching and you can. That's going to lead to more injuries of guys in the backfield whether it's running backs whether it's quarterbacks getting hit blindsided because people aren't paying attention they're missing calls. I don't understand it and the N._F._l.. is eventually worked themselves into a situation where one of these leagues one of these start-up Leagues and not the A. F.. That was a joke but a league that actually incomes prepared I and takes its time and try to mess around and do weird things like this is going to potentially gain ground not gonNa take over for the N._F._l.. Because nobody's ever going to do that but it's GonNa take market share of people who just WanNa Watch football and don't want to worry about the stats and who wants to who what what strategy comes into this guy not being able to play week seventeen and a crucial playoff run well. I think the thing that year naturally choosing to talk about into focus on to illustrate your point are all the downsides you're saying. This isn't what sports are about but I would argue the other side of that. I would argue that. This is exactly what sports were about sports. The Magic of sports is when something happens. You don't expect it's when Nick foles outdoors Tom Brady in the super bowl. You you assume that every player who gets the opportunity to play that isn't a starter is gonNA fall on his face but I think this is GonNa give more players lawyers and opportunity to shine. That's the magic of sports. That's not a downside but do you know what happens here so so this is where so you have a wide receiver righty six on the depth chart. He's very low. <hes> doesn't get a ton of time. He's in there for maybe two plays or maybe doesn't even dress for a game and here he is he has to play. He gets his big breakout shot. He breaks out. Does you know hundred seventy seventy yards two touchdowns who knew nobody knew this guy was going to do this and then all of a sudden the media starts talking and the chatter starts talking. Why isn't this guy playing more? Why isn't this guy do? That's fair fair. The Guy Probably for franchises blooms. What problems are you causing by unearthing a star because the player you illustrate you you just talked about was in fact a star? You think you think your team is worse off because you found out your number six receiver happens to be a stud. No of course you're not. You're in an enviable position right. So when it's the last year of his contractor is on a one year deal and now he's expecting to get paid starter level the money because he had three good games and you become a locker room issue or these two years left on a contract where he's making you know just above veteran minimum and now it's it's it's contract issues and things like that this this causes more problems CBS so you would rather we just not know. This guy is an outstanding football player. We never get those guys. Come to the top in sixteen game season. It happens not when they're big opportunity matic opportunity. You're naive if you don't think opportunity matters I always talked about guys about this very same thing with guys on the N._B._A.. Show Tales from the association returning soon question Mark and and the thing is like there are a a lot of guys were similarly talented in sports once you get past that elite level. There's another level there of the very good guys and then there there is that next level good football players good what flag players and there are a lot of them and a lot of it is just you know we're seeing these guys play because they've been lucky enough to have opportunities in the past. There are GonNa be you know this scenario would allow so so many more players to get their opportunity to step up and show what they can do and there is no world where that is a bad thing where more talent and a better on field product is negative but it's not going to be a better on field product if these guys come in and they do fall flat on their face of course there's got to be success stories but I can almost guarantee. There's going to be more failures than successes in a situation like this but can't guarantee it. That's the point you can't guarantee T._A.. We could have never seen the nick foles thing happened and he is. He is a saint now but Chris. How often does that happen but I mean honestly Tom Brady replacing drew bledsoe taking the team to the super bowl winning it becoming an an instant hall of Famer basically Nick Foles? That's what twenty years apart those two situations eighteen sixteen years apart outside of that. I'd love to know another time where backup quarterback comes in because somebody got hurt or a backup receiver and changes changes the game and the way that those two guys do it doesn't happen anywhere near as much as you're trying to maintain that it does I think they're they're guys who come in all the time and show what they can do. You invoke his name earlier. But how about you mean Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo showed would that he is potentially a very good n._F._l.. quarterback when one of those other guys you mentioned wasn't in the lineup that it just it just takes opportunity. It's not the system what he didn't San Francisco that San Francisco team was utterly brutal before Garoppolo came into the lineup then all of a sudden Trent Taylor in the likes our average N._F._l.. Players know not the system crazy the system. I don't like Garoppolo. I think he's a little bit of a Smug D. bag but I think he's a heck of a football a player. I'm sure he's great but I still don't think that forty niners team has some world-beater out there but we'll see world-beater. Nobody said there are a world-beater. Do people had them winning the N._F._C. West last year getting into the playoffs offs everybody. Everybody needs to take a little slowdown on Jimmy Garoppolo in the San Francisco forty nine or so. I haven't been good since Carol Owens look. Have there been struggles in San Francisco yes. We're we're not here to debate that but I don't think that's the point of all of this either I just I just refuse to see a scenario where opportunity is ever negative. Will there be growing pains. Yes will some guys fall on their face. Sure guess what a Lotta guys start in the N._F._l.. Every week and not every one of them's good anyway. I think more good than bad comes from this and for that reason that reason alone I think it's a worthy argument to at least see if this is a feasible plan plan. I just think this is something that rubs fan base the wrong way. If you're telling me we get to because coaches coaches. This is new to them so you're talking about how this could potentially affect a late season in playoff run because you didn't realize you you were strategizing this then. Someone gets hurt right so you're you're backup gets hurt too. You're right tackle your left tackle and then the next week you're starting left. Tackle gets hurt now. You're on your third third-string tackle because your backup tackle was forced to play because of some Cockamamie rule that your guy can only play sixteen of the eighteen games that matter. That's a huge negative there. I mean football injuries can happen on every single single play and you can see a team decimated in two weeks because of a situation where hey well our backup who we were really relying on unfortunately got rolled up on and then the next week Jason Peter's blows quad out for the seven hundred time so now yes right I would not count on Jason Peter's Jason Peter's if he gets if he plays his ten games a good season but yeah stuff happens stuff happens in sports. You can't plan for it. You just move in just on the fly. That's what it is. This isn't just it doesn't all happen like in video game with injuries turned off you have to adjust to the rules of the game. You have to adjust to what happens and players get hurt. I I mean sure of course they do but and I maybe I sound Goldman yelling at cloud yeah just. I don't think there's a need to tweak something so drastically as to add two weeks to the season but guys can still only play sixteen weeks it just to me. It feels like you're glorifying in preseason games because you think that the preseason is too long. If you think the preseason too long take it down making a nineteen week season teams get to buys and narratives you play Seventeen Games or making twenty week season teams get to buys you can push back back the super bowl two weeks and no one's going to care if anything people would celebrate that that'd be awesome if you did that and you gave each team to separate buys and you worked it out that way giving guys rest more rest than there used to. Hey I mean there's much better scenario than hey. We're going to have eighteen games. The count but Carson Wentz can only play sixteen. You're right greg. Sports should never change. They should never they should never change. They should never evolve in any way we should always play by the exact same rules that we've had by the way this you're basically describing baseball and everything that's wrong with it but we should always play by the exact same rules as the one that we came up with James Naismith was he was onto something we should be shooting into a peach basket. Forget about three point lines. That's Hippie talk but I I don't want any of that the way it was invented. Not every evolution of a game is necessarily a good one I mean and and not everyone's bad right of course not but this is a bad one. This is unarguably bad one agree disagree but great. We're taking a break. We'll be right back. Hello guys at Semi Fighter Jail Senate and check out my podcast. You're welcome with jail son and every Wednesday on Friday right here at podcast one we cover the latest in mixed martial arts and everything else going on in the world of sport. Listen three to your welcome with jail son and exclusively passively available at podcast one dot com and on the podcast one APP. If you love the show share it with a friend and leave us a rating and revealing all right greg. We're back for our third and final segment of the show. We're GONNA talk about Chris. Paul recently traded from the Houston Rockets to the Oklahoma City Thunder and why he's not going to be traded before the deadline and let me put this as simply as I can. Nobody nobody wants that contract. The thunder never in a million years going to give up some of these assets that they acquired by the way the bounty of assets they acquired kudos to Sam Presi in the Russell Westbrook and Paul George Trades just to get Chris Paul's contract off the books and I think that's what's it's going to take you know there are basically no teams with any substantial cap at this point. I think like seven million dollars seventy million dollars. Whatever that is all today is is the most any individual team has under the capsule? Nobody can just absorb Chris Paul and his absurd contract into into their team right now. They're going to have to give up assets to get rid of Paul and that's just so counter learn to itself to what the team is trying to do in Oklahoma City and I also think it comes down to like is Chris Paul going to be a bad guy. Is he going to be difficult and cause trouble and I don't think that's the case. I've never got that impression oppression. You know he's not going to accept the by people say who boy him out. Yeah Chris Paul has got one hundred twenty two million dollars left on his contract. You think he's not going to get paid that. He knows he's thirty four years old playing next Yup this year thirty four I guess next year thirty five and that final year thirty six when he has a forty four million dollar player option that there is no chance in the world. He's not going to pick up. He knows he's not getting big contract after this. He knows he shouldn't be paid this much much right now. He's not taking a buyout nor should he and they're just not going to be able to move him in a deal that they're happy with happy with no I don't I don't think that how this entire higher play with Chris Paul and something that all of Oklahoma City or even samp rusty his one hundred percent happy with but if the goal is some sort of cap flexibility and to get off of a potentially thirty six or thirty eighty seven year old guy making forty five million dollars a year. They're going to have to consider giving up something. They have a lot of picks to to choose from and of course again another situation where I'm lounging in beautiful Poland and all of a sudden the N._B._A.. World slipped on its head not once but twice with the Paul George Situation and then also obviously russ going back going back. Were you aware joint harden yes because that happened on what the fifth or the fourth or whatever it was I was. I was certainly not in the country so you wash you watch the implosion of the Oklahoma City thunder from from afar I did and thank God. I was outside of that blast radius. <hes> I mean it's it's one of these things where someone is going to get hurt. Something is going to happen to one of these contending teams and Chris. Paul is certainly not the twenty two year old kid that came out of wake forest and pretty much. wjr rejuvenated a franchise and gave Oklahoma City team basically after all we saw in Hurricane Katrina and the penalties having to move he certainly not that but he's certainly not one of the worst players in the league. He's still up there with a guy who can contribute night in and night out and it may not be as effective as efficient is people would like but he's certainly somebody who you could see on a competing team and that's where I think Miami really comes into play. Miami wants to considered real and right now with just Jimmy Butler. They are not a real team. Jimmy Butler and Chris Paul might honestly kill each other based on both of their attitudes when it comes to basketball in general but I think there is a way where Miami figures out how to make this deal work. I don't know exactly what it is but Pat Riley is all respects very talented president of Operation Slash G._M.. Or whatever his exact title is in Miami and I know talks stalled aww things like that but there is a chance that if the heater lingering and having early success and see themselves as a potential serious playoff contender we could see that move happen at the trade deadline but I think the only way Oklahoma City really gets out of this situation before that trade deadline is going to be based on what sort of injuries happen early on in next year's N._B._A.. Season it's GonNa be tough prestige getting a lot of praise for all the assets that he's acquired wired but assets are also just that if your assets or drafting and you're basically getting a second first round pick late in the draft or late in the first round. How much of an acid is it really? Let's look at percentages. I think that all has to be taken into consideration fedaration when you're talking about having a bunch of clippers who are what odds on NBA champion favorites. I think that it's it's a little tough to to consider you know getting rid of pick or two from that all to get off contract like Chris Paul's well look them. I've never thought that the Miami thing was going to happen because both teams are disincentivize against making that trait you know Oklahoma City owns to do not one but to unprotected Miami first round picks so they're not gonNA try and make Miami better now. Miami wants those pigs back. If they're going to take on the contract Chris Paul Oklahoma City is not going to do that and and the bigger problem is who can cap match this right now. Paul makes thirty eight point five million dollars this year and I thought Bobby Mark said something really interesting on twitter and that is right now with free agency agency and Trades and everything else happens off season forty percent of the players under contract in the N._B._A.. Can Be traded right now that leaves the pickings awfully slim. Nobody's making a trade for Chris Paul Right now. It's just not necessary. You can wait this out your there's no reason to make the thunder and offer that they can't refuse because at some point they're going to have to take an offer. They don't like it's just GonNa come later than sooner. This is where this is where I need a full breakdown of the N._B._A.. Rules and situations like that because it appears to me that the contract situations are so unbelievably complicated with trade rules and things like that and cap matching but then there really is no cap but they're kind of is a cap and then there's luxury tax and there's this. There's that it just it. Apparently you can just do whatever you one and just have to pay extra money which cares your arguing franchise. Let's just simple as strokes for this in order for a team to trade for Chris Paul who has over the cap they would have to send Oklahoma City within fifteen percent of what Chris Paul makes this year on eligible contracts so they would that would be what thirty eight is fifty fifty two it would have to be at least thirty three million dollars thirty thirty three and a half million dollars coming back back or as much as about forty three million dollars so somewhere from they send anywhere from that thirty three to forty three million. I can't imagine why Oklahoma City would pay more and go deeper into the tax but maybe that's a necessity in getting Paul off the books. That's that's GonNa be really really really difficult really really really difficult. Oklahoma City is clearly going to try and got this roster as they should. Schreuder should be gone. Gala Nari should be gone the first second they can find first round pick for him and they this should be able to find a first-round pick forum gal good player on an expiring contract. <hes> Stephen Adams should be gone as soon as they find somebody to take that contract and again they probably get a pick for him and exchange Adams's a good basketball player. This team is going to be built around Shea. The guilt Alexander and I don't know that it's the worst thing in the world to have guilt Alexander learned from Chris Paul for a year you know if he is your future moving forward. Let's give him every opportunity to succeed especially for a team. That's just not GonNa Win Games anyway well yeah. That's fine if you Chris Paul to mentor him sure but I honestly there's I have questions for San Prestige on how he wasn't able to get rid of at least one of those contracts whether it's Adams atoms were Roberson guys like that in either one of these trades it appears to me that we're not really sure what's going on and we're stocked with an insane cap it from some of these guys in rebuilding situation and it's it's a little bit iffy for me. I don't get it to me though the N._B._A.. is so weird and everybody everybody seems to get what they want now when it comes to being a player and I feel like in this situation Paul has to know that he is at the not the end of the line but certainly that back nine of that of his N._B._A.. Career and time's running out to get into the N._B._A.. Finals or potentially win a championship and someone is going to make this happened and it's going to be a contender. That's dumb or it's going to be the knicks because this is how dumb the Knicks are the next smartly turned down trading the rockets getting Chris Paul from the rockets but now prestige going to call them up. He's going to be like listen. We just traded Russell Westbrook for this guy. <hes> what do you think now about Chris Paul and the Knicks will do it. I don't know why they'll do it. Because there are terrible franchise. Something dumb will happen and Chris. Paul will not be on the thunders Rosser after the trade deadline. I just don't see I know financially teams have to really sort of struggle and make it work but it the N._B._a.'s weird now where things just happened even they don't really make sense. I think you're being kind to Chris Paul by saying he's on the back nine. I think you know if this is a a mini golf. Course Chris Paul can see that that eighteenth hole where you putting lose your ball from where he is right now the absolutely you know numbers down across the board last year missed a bunch of games all of a sudden career forty six percent shooter. He shot forty one percent last year from the field his three point shooting was down to thirty five percent is a career thirty seven seven percent shooter even is even as free throw shooting was down below career norms disguise just have for as smart as years and Chris. Paul is unquestionably a basketball savant. He is a genius level basketball ballplayer in terms of running an offense but he doesn't have the athleticism to do it anymore. He is clearly lost. Not just one not even two. Maybe three steps in these last cod. He came in a twenty so fourteen eighteen years he's been in the N._B._A.. And there's nothing wrong with that. Father time is undefeated for a reason but Chris Paul is a lot closer a lot closer to the end in the beginning here back nine does not do it justice. I don't think that there is a team that is going to take on this contract. Because it's an albatross. It is an anchor especially. If you want to move forward and let me tell you specifically why the Knicks will never do it and actually why a bunch of teams aims won't do it is because everybody thinks they're going to be the team that can land the next superstar free agent that comes available and that guy happens to be honest onto Makuto in the twenty twenty twenty twenty one off season. I I happen to be honest is going to stay in Milwaukee for most of if not his entire career but teams especially the way the Knicks I've built this roster signing everyone to two year deals or clearly setting themselves up for a chance to make run at Janas. They're not going ad forty four million dollars of Chris Paul to their salary which is not going to happen and I will be here on that day when Yana stays in Milwaukee agree and I will be here for the Knicks fans twitter meltdown. It's like a cycle it. It happens all the time. It happened with the Bron. It happened this year with literally everyone except for Julius randle I mean it's only it's only going to happen again the next thing to figure out a better way to build a team. I'm not saying Chris Paul's the answer. That's not not my point but every team has these weird pipedreams now than ever. Everybody's worried about clearing these Max slots. We haven't seen that really work effectively and win anybody a championship outside side of the warriors in other words that even give durant Max Lot. So what am I even talking about well the thing that's pretty darn close. I think that's splitting hairs. He took a slight discount to go play for a great basketball team but still an enormous enormous salary sure but outside of the Miami Super Team Lebron Waden Bosh we haven't we haven't seen teams really build through free agency and win championships. The wares were primarily a team and that at least not superstar free agency. I guess outside of Durant but where's that were built up. They came from the draft. They came from solid G._M.. Homework Shirt and game planning and changing the way basketball's plate we talk about Chris Paul's numbers being down. He's also in a very weird offense. I'm not saying Chris Paul Still The guy that is you know one of arguably the best point guards in league. He's certainly not dad. He certainly older but you're also talking about a much different system system a different way of playing Mike the Antoni system that relies heavily on three points shooting that also could play a role in why those percentages are down older along with shooting more. I don't have the numbers in front of me and I may maybe wrong but I just feels to me as you're talking about those numbers being down that concerns me look. I'm not a guy who looks at her nose numbers. I just know what my gut things in my bliss and thinks that could be a your reason. It's right. That's what the show is built on Chris Gut versus analytics and nine time that a ten gut wins no no it doesn't it up in mostly. It absolutely absolutely does not win nine out of ten times. That's absurd. This is in like you know. I always like when we have these conversations. Have I seen the mark the movie moneyball yes. It's like like when the scouts are sitting in the office and they're talking about well. That guy just looks like he has a nice swing. That guy looks like a baseball player yeah well. He doesn't get on base and that's the problem with a lot of this. You don't care about the actual what actually happens on the court on the field. Whatever if I'M GONNA playoff series of days when at least one hundred zero it might be one at least one hundred so you're arguing a guest? Oh my okay I can't do this. I'm not against moneyball great idea behind moneyball and the idea of using that but it doesn't equal championships it just doesn't what the rafters just did with the raptors just did with trading trading their franchise leading scorer a guy who was the face of the team for a one year rental. This is basically unheard of the one the N._B._A.. Championship what what's the analytics behind that or Messiah Jerry pulls something off that we haven't seen really weighed so you think that they didn't make a calculated move to treat a good but flawed player for one of the best talents and basketball of I don't even understand the argument you're making right now. You sound crazier you drunk. If only know my point is Chris that there's plenty of teams that would've looked at and said what is the risk versus reward of. We're going to treat a guy who we know will be here in wants to be here for even past his contract. which is another year out for this guy who there's a very good chance that we could lose in the first second round of the playoffs? He's gone now. We're seriously back to square one and we're going to be down down back towards the bottom half of potentially the playoffs or even out of the playoffs wants to season's over and quite Leonard go if he walks yeah. They made a calculate decision because they knew their team was capped in how high they could go how far they could advance with the roster as currently constructed so they swallow for fences Lebron James was there kryptonite Lebron West Yeah but murder Roseanne and Kyle lowry was Never GonNa win the N._B._A.. Championship there wasn't going to happen now the wildcard all of this is takes another step up then. Maybe we're talking about something different but you can't account for that. You can't account for exponential just just evolutionary growth in a player they they've made the right decision. They took a shot usually give him credit for having the balls to say this is going to be unpopular when it happens. It's going to piss players off. It's going to Piss some fans off but we're going to take a shot at this thing because I no we are right now and what we are right. Now is not a championship contender. Maybe he leaves after this and maybe it doesn't work out but if nothing else we've given ourselves a punchers chance at this thing and it's certainly did work out sure but if you ran that through the analytic system I'd love to see what those odds work is it. He wouldn't the analytic system everybody. They're just a machine that are there some giant computer that figures out all these percentages I.

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Gabe Kapler Talks About 2020 Giants, L.A. Controversy

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Gabe Kapler Talks About 2020 Giants, L.A. Controversy

"Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast tune in for personal interviews with the world's top. Rock climbers surfers skiers ultra runners. And much more. If you like getting outside exploring you'll dig wild west. Find it wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome. Welcome to another episode of the Giants Splash on Henry. Shulman the chronicles giants beat reporter. And today's podcast will be the first of what we hope are. Many with new giants manager gave Kappler. Many fans were not happy with his hiring three weeks ago mainly because of his role in handling assault allegations involving Dr players when he was farm. I'm director and his two disappointing seasons as manager in Philadelphia. The off field issues have been well covered for now and I encourage you to read the chronicles extensive coverage from the day after his hiring but with the winter meetings a week away I want to turn much of this interview toward onfield issues which Kappler Blur largely has not been asked about well. Hello how're you doing. Doing really well excited to be here in San Francisco and just moved into a new apartment in North beach a couple of days ago and Yeah No. I'm I'm really excited to be down in the clubhouse every day putting together what what I think is going to be a really strong strong staff and that leads into one of the major questions I have. It's as we're recording this. It's after Thanksgiving and you have one coach as that that has that been a exhibition. Difficult at all to put together the coaching staff. That you want Because of the The lateness of the hour. I mean I remember Farhan and had trouble hiring a general manager last year because nobody wanted to give permission in mid-november dilute and direct for the GM meetings. I mean has that been an issue for you. It's a challenge. But I'll let's say Henry is that We're a little bit further along than just having one coach although I understand that that's That's what has been announced. We're really excited. To have ron voters back as our third base coach in in a Lotta ways a mentor and a coach to the staff that we're going to bring in a little bit further down that road but We understand that there's challenges with getting started ended late and at the same time We have worked really strong process at the outset where we're excited about the hitting coach candidates that we brought in a very very excited about the pitching coach candidates as well. There's a nice pool of bench. Coach candidates still out there And we feel confident that at the end of the day. We're going to put together a world class death when when I talked to what is After he was rehired or brought back I asked him. If it's possible that you might hire What we consider nontraditional coaches now? Now maybe guys who Work for for private hitting a sure places private pitching places. The dodgers had a very good year after they hired. I'M ON A. I'm not going to pronounce this right. Van skyrock been squawky seizing credible. So we hired. We hired him when I was in L. A.. And we got to know him. Well at that point do you think that you might have a somebody like from that. Realm are or somebody from that realm in part of the conversations. So we'll we'll look everywhere for for coaching help. And the one thing that I'd like to the share is that when a pool has been fished in for a really long time What ends up happening is the same fish you tend to come onto the surface and you catch him and sometimes you thrown back But it's really helpful when you look in every possible corner to find staff because then you build A diverse staff that that has differences of thought and differences a background and come from different parts of of the world and sometimes they come from a cage environment environment and sometimes they come from a professional minor league environment and sometimes they've been around a really long time but if you're fishing in new ponds new pools you're likely you too to come up with some really dynamic coaches so the direct answer. Your question is yes. We'll look everywhere for our coaching staff. And we won't say that we're just looking in one particular area or another. What have you been doing the last three weeks mostly been on the phone I've been I've talked to as many people as I can. Who are have been in the giants organization to learn about the various departments that's player development amateur scouting pro scouting international And begun building relationships because I think in order to be a good leader at the major league level I have to understand where where people have been where they are today where they're going going and where every department is focused. It's my personal opinion that if I think about helping I think about serving the other departments governments in the organization. Then I give us our best chance to to build something sustainable here okay and you know speaking of three weeks that's There's been some time for things to settle down after a very unique introductory press conference may not have been the press conference. You may not have been the press conference. You're hoping for or expecting and as I said in the introduction to the podcast broadcast. We're not going to dwell on that today because the fans need some baseball questions answered but it has been three weeks and I'm wondering now that you have time to reflect on it it on the bay area being place where people are very much socially aware of of issues of social issues domestic violence Any anything you're progressively. I'm just wondering if now that you look back you can kinda understand why The reaction whether it was based based on having all the facts are a few of the facts understand why the reaction was as harsh as it was. I do understand it I think it makes perfect sense and if I was fan who was reading the articles that were coming out I would probably have a very similar reaction. So Can empathize with with the fans in San Francisco about learning thing about me through that medium. the thing that I'd say is you know sometimes i. I've made plenty of mistakes in in my career but sometimes what you're so reading is is not The best example of of who the leader is. That's coming into to help your your team win baseball games and be really good in the community So it always asks for people to get to know me personally and get to know me as As a manager of the giants and as a leader in the community and reserve judgment but at the same time I totally understand where they're coming from and I might have the same reaction of all I had to go on was what I was reading. Now after the incident that caused Larry Baer to be suspended spended for three months Part of his I guess you call it rehabilitation. Although that's not really kind of an unfair word I mean part of the process of him before he could come back. He spoke up to a lot of people in the community Advocacy groups and whatnot. Is that something that you have done or hope to do That might it help Give the community a better idea of who you say you are absolutely You know through the interview process and since I've had Conversations Myself Farhan. Zaidi's Scott Harris with futures without violence And and the the goal of these conversations is to learn as much as we can so that when situations like what went on in La. Come up again. which they inevitably will they might not comp in the same exact form were better equipped equipped to handle them? And I think the the main lesson That I've learned is that we need to ask for help. There are people futures without violence is an incredible credible resource There are people there are groups in the community that are experts in this field I'm not and so when these situations come up ask for help. Don't feel like I can handle situations on my own and so future is a great example of that additionally I've had some question and answers with sessions ends with with season ticket holders and fans who asked me and other leaders very direct questions. We've had open dialogue about the situations and for me personally. That's really impactful. Because it gives us an opportunity to open up and have a very real connection and to demonstrate meant with the fan base though social issues that we talked about our issues that that I feel very strongly about creating awareness around and so I think what people in San Francisco are GonNa find through some of these questions and answers Sessions and through the investment in the community is is that I will be a strong advocate and a champion of the issues that we've been talking about and you mentioned the fans who have talked to you. At Chalk talks so season ticket holders may be on the street. Women in particular have been very critical I think women honestly are the ones who might be more Mo- skeptical about you. You would have you heard from women that you've talked to in these season ticket talks and maybe people you've you've heard Just on the street I mean I think there it's more questions because I think they're trying to find out who I am and where I come from And and what what my goals are and I think that through those conversations. The Women Women that I've had conversations with come away feeling Reassured that I I I support equality in the workplace and that I support report Raising awareness around not just women's issues but men's issues as well. Domestic violence has been a a point of emphasis assist for me in in mid two thousands. I was with the Boston. Red Sox and my focus was a domestic violence organization. We started a foundation Improved approved Conditions in shelters southern California and specifically my then wife Lisa and I spoke at high schools and I was this kind of an advocate and a champion of the issues that we're talking about during my playing career and so I think learning about some of the experiences that I've had and learning about my background has has has been really reassuring but I'll say this henry the only way to really acquire the buy in is to see me work over the course of a long period the time it's not going to happen in one question and answer session it's going to happen. Is People see my action steps over the next you know hopefully three five seven ten years. There's right and well I think that's that's probably as much as we need to talk about that for the moment. I mean it's going to be a topic that's going to be continuous and I promised The listeners that we're GonNa Talk Talk Baseball and you mentioned that you've been reaching out to all the various departments and I know you said at your press conference that you're going to rely heavily on Posey Have you talked much with Posey. Since you were hiring and heavy reached out which players have you reached out to. Yeah I've I've talked to Posey Several times and buster is such a thoughtful articulate and intelligent man and player so I've gotten his feedback back on some of the dynamics in the clubhouse he's been excellent at bring me up to speed puzzle talked him about potential staff members and some of the characteristics that that buster and the clubhouse would be looking team for. Because I don't think that we can. We can just kind of hire the people that we think. Make the most sense. I think getting player feedback is really important. So on top of buster. I've had conversations with Tony Watson. I've talked to some Marga. Not specifically margin not specifically about staff. But I've connected with him. We spent some time talking In the weight from here here in the clubhouse I've connected you know be text with a great number of players and continue to get to know them. Some of the guys who are on the cusp. Some Minor League guys felt great conversations about some swing changes that I would be really valuable and we've talked about how to get to those swing changes even in the off season Yeah so you know kind of excited about a a guy. Like Jalen Davis by way of example. HE I think with a couple of minor tweaks this is a guy that can produce a lot of power at the major league level. So yeah little. Little conversations stations like that along the way but I can assure you that by the time the new year rolls around we'll have connected with had deep conversations with everybody on our roster and to some degree some some players in our minor league system as well. You're you're really good at segues into my questions because swing changes was one of the things I was going to ask. But Not specifically guys on the cusp of the major leagues. I mean You saw one hundred pants did last year after he retired to change his swing. The giants have some veteran players who struggled who struggled and have not played to their capabilities. He's of late Brandon Crawford Brandon Belt. Evan Evan Longoria who actually has been a little better and got you know very well. Buster POSEY SHERPA HIP issues. Obviously but Have you had any conversations with them. The veteran players about working on some swing changes buster SORTA hinted that he might go work on that with a private coach in the off season if you had any conversations with them you know what I. I think. It would be pretty presumptuous of me to come in here and say. I've got the answers for Brandon Belt Brandon Crawford Buster Posey Evan Longoria right like I think the way those conversations stations work best and I think the way relationship building works best is to have conversations about family. I have conversations to get to know the people I there's going to be plenty of time to the dig into swing changes. We're GONNA hire a great hitting department that is going to address some of these things very directly with with our players all of the people that we mentioned included. But I just don't think we're there yet and we've been. I've been the manager of the giants for three weeks or something like that. I don't think that it makes a whole lot of sense. To due to have those be the first initial conversations we will get to Mechanical changes we will get to approach changes. But I don't think it's appropriate for those Those conversations to happen right now. Okay and I mean this is going to be a bit of a difficult question maybe to answer right now because you don't have your team set yet but quite honestly. I think there was an expectation. The new manager who came in would not have the same sort of loyalty to what we have come to talk as legacy players. Right like Crawford like belt liked like Posey For instance And I do you think that you could find a way if you felt it was necessary sairy to maybe play others over those guys if the other players are performing better I think that's the right question and let me start by saying I have a tremendous amount of respect respect for track record and success so the players that we're talking about are are well accomplished. They have rings they have the money they have success and they earned all of those things And at the same time I think if you asked all of them and you sat them down in this room and you said should playing meantime be merit based I think they probably all say absolutely. Who is the best person to help the giants win on any given day Should we play that person. I think those players would say absolutely so having those very real and direct conversations with with all of our players is going to be immeasurably important And it's not just the the the legacy players that you mentioned players WanNa earn opportunity. And if they're not performing they're gonNA understand that there's always somebody who who is working really really hard to take to take down reps so without question. Those those conversations are going to be had directly Head on and ultimately at the end of the day the players that helped the giants win most effectively are going to be on the field in the dirt diving for ground balls hitting home runs etc.. Okay so you feel confident when you're sitting down here writing your lineup card. One of the statistics you won't have to look at is the dollar signs after players names. I think it's I first of all. I think it's always important to respect like I said the things that a player has accomplished and the reason that's important is because in my opinion the best predictor a futures future successes pass success. Now that's very nuanced because there's like the aging curve and and and more recent struggles and at the same time. No we will not be writing out lineups based on dollar figures and I can assure you of that okay There's one other player I wanted to ask ask you've reached out to. His name. Is Madison Bumgarner. Have you had a conversation with him yet. I mean he told me that whoever the new manager is going to be that's going to be a unimportant it Thing in his decision whether to come back obviously money will be the money in years. Always trump everything Maybe geography but I mean if you had a conversation with him yet. I've not having a conversation with Madison and I have a tremendous amount of respect for what he's accomplished. I've watched him play for a really long time having my history With with the Los Sandra dodgers. Obviously he's an intense competitor Somebody that I think his teammates you know really respect the guy he is between the lines. And how how fierce is out on the mound. I feel feel all of those things about Madison at the same time. I know he has a decision to make and I'm trying to be as respectful as I can possibly be of his space and all of the things that might might be going through his mind right now. I think there will come a time. When it's it's very appropriate for me to have a conversation with mad bum look forward to that to that moment? It hasn't happened yet. Okay I have some more questions for you. Some of it touching on Philadelphia. And we'll get to those right after this. Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast want to know what's going on with the world's top adventures checkout wild west where I recently chatted with photographer Chris Burkhard who spent his life traveling going to the most remote corners of the world. Some ways I always feel like I'm just pulled the wool over everybody's eyes. I've always told them like I'm not a good photographer by any means. I've just been the person willing to go to these these places. You'll find my conversations with Chris and many more rat adventures wherever you get your podcast. Wild West Back with new giants manager gape Kappler. You mentioned Jalen Davis Guy that you're really interested in looking at You've talked to him a little bit about some swing changes are. Are there any other players at the top level of the minor league system that You feel the same way about. I think there's quite a few I mean I don't know that it makes a whole lot of sense to get into each and every one of them but I mean I can tell you about some of the minor league players that I've I've come into contact with I'll tell you who stands out. I don't think you're asking about this specifically Henry but hunter the bishop is is a really impressive individual I'll share that we had a minor league Or guys were recently drafted strength and conditioning. Asian camp here in the clubhouse about a week ago and I had lots of conversations with the minor league players in that camp but the one guy to come in and sit down on an have half an hour conversation with me introduce himself to me and really allow me to get to know him and he got to know me a little bit one hundred Bishop of course have done a lot of homework on on the player player. He is He's been compared to to Larry Walker. That's pretty high praise and he's still got a lot of work to do to prove that he he belongs in that kind of conversation but the talent is there the athleticism is absolutely there now. I think what I'm most excited about his character and he demonstrated character to me about a week ago today. Yeah that's an an annual Kind of camp that they have every year here. The listeners know where in the morning is used to be at work in the morning they would go out there all the physical stuff and in the afternoon after lunch when they were already already to fall asleep people would come in and lecture them about all aspects of the giants organization. WanNa ask you a little bit about Philly and you know. I think that if you had had two great seasons in Philly winning seasons in playoff season some of these questions wouldn't be asked of course if you had a great season winning seasons in Philadelphia. I'd be talking to somebody somebody else on his sofa right now but you know. What can you tell the listeners that you've learned the most about the two years that you were a major league manager? What are some of the mistakes that you made that you think You won't make here. I think the the the most important lesson I learned is that the confidence silence of our players far outweighs oftentimes The marginal advantages you get by making a really good in game strategic decision and and I'll give you an example of that so that you know the listeners. You know understand what I'm talking about here on opening day in two thousand eighteen your first the game is a major league. Managers First. Game is a major league manager. Aaron Nola who was the ace starting pitcher for the phillies on the Mount and we had a pitch account set up based on how much he had been built up to. That point and that pitch count was somewhere in the neighbor. A neighborhood of eighty five pitches An Air Noah had done a great great job in that game He had a five-run lead five zero shutout baseball and we got to the sixth inning and it looked like he was fatiguing just a little bit. There had been in some some hard contact and just as importantly we had an opportunity to bring in Hobe milner who was a left handed pitcher Freddy Freeman and Nick. Marquette is back to back it was a a little early for everybody's comfort level but for me the strategic decision. The decision on paper was to get that left-hander in their face. Those two lefties and to take Aaron Nola out of the game went out to the mountain and I got here no and I brought in a hoping milner and things didn't go well from there Our bullpen ended up giving up the lead and we ended up losing the game on a walk off home. Run to nick. Mark eggs with our closer nurse on the mound All of this is to say that. That sucks the energy out of out of the dugout Out I think Philadelphia the city of Philadelphia was upset that I'd taken Aaron all out of the game and I did all of that to get the strategic advantage on paper. He wasn't quite it yet. Yet at his pitch count and I felt US moving towards that pitch count and I had taken all the information and made what I thought was the best decision for the phillies and the time. But it really had a lasting impact on the clubhouse because everybody thought that you know for Aaron Knowle's confidence he should have stayed in that game for the confidence of the clubhouse. Yes he should have stayed in that game in for the conference of the dugout that he should have stayed in that game and everybody was right and what I learned over my two years in Philadelphia. was that sometimes. The most strategic advantage that you get on paper isn't worth the confidence that it might drained from a group of players or from a clubhouse or from a city and I made that adjustment in in in year two and two thousand nineteen left starting pitchers in there a little bit longer A trusted my gut. When as it related to those things in kind of managed just a game less on paper and more on confidence? Oh boy all all of the analytic folks are going to faint. Because you use the word Gut I think it's a balanced Henry. Like I think you have have to get all the information that you possibly can and I think you have to trust your gut and gut instinct. Really is is the combination of preparation pre-game with a lifetime of experiences in baseball. I've been baseball since I was nineteen years old professional baseball since I was nineteen years old. I'm forty four so all I know is this series of experiences as a player as an executive coach as a scout so what gut feeling really is is the culmination of all those experiences and the preparation pre game and then using using that to make a quick decision. It's funny 'cause Bo cheat actually. He went further than that Bo. Chee would say that It was almost an insult to talk about gut. Because it made it sound like you you were just doing something flying off out of your head without having done all that preparation I did want to move on speaking of Boji. I mean you watched the giants You've watched the giants from afar. I guess you've had about. I don't know fifteen games. Fourteen games against him as a manager. You've seen what kind of manager he he is. I'm sure you've studied His moves his strategies and things like that. Is there anything you can tell us about. A difference fans might notice with you in the dugout instead of him. I think that when you the best way to get to know a manager and I totally understand the public purse perception best way to get to know me. A manager is by being with him in the dugout. So sure I can follow. Bruce boches moves. I I have a pretty good feel for how he manages the bullpen. One thing that that really stood out to me that I thought was excellent. Excellent was the way he used. The when brand belt was struggling last year He's still put him in the leadoff spot and I thought that was a really interesting strategic. Move and one that I respected. In fact act I used it as an example when asking some of our players to lead off that traditionally had not hit leadoff. That were struggling. So by way of example Reese Hoskins Similar profile to brandon in that he knows how to look over a baseball makes really good swing decisions fouls pitches off works deep deep counts and so even when a profile like that like restrictions or brandon belt is struggling. They still give you a good at bat at the top of the lineup. So boches commitment to that I thought was was really interesting. I mean I guess that's one thing that I that. I noticed managing across from us that he's willing to make moves like that. I thought he really good job with with the bullpen and But I think the best way to get to know managed manager's Bhai standing in the dugout with him in the way he communicates with staff and with players. And I just don't have that kind of exposure to Boetsch like say Ron Modus does okay. This is a question that actually came up. I mean even before you were hired probably came up the day that that Bruce announced his retirement. There was the perception in Los Angeles that the manager. And I'm going to use the word because the fans use it. The managers a pup right that the manager is really there to do. The bidding of the general manager who at the time was far Hans. ID The manager. Was Dave Roberts and that the manager's role is is pretty much to write down the lineup at the general manager wants and the key job of the manager is just to make sure the guys in their. Don't kill each other in the clubhouse and wrote what would you say to that are are just openly. I just don't think it's all that accurate. I got the same sense in Philadelphia so when I came into Philadelphia especially given the history of the managers that were there. Charlie Manual U. P. maccagnan Larry Bowa Dallas Green. And that's what they were used to. And then I came into Philadelphia and with a young front office like Matt. Clint Tack Ned. Ned Rice Brian Manetti and me being kind of a younger and my perception was that I was an analytical manager. The the thought in Philadelphia was that the information would be passed down to to me and I would just be doing the work of the front office which turned out to be entirely untrue and very specifically I had an incredible amount of autonomy as it related to lineup construction direction as it related to in game decisions as it related to playing time incredible amount of autonomy. The thing that I would want to convey here is that I have a history with four Dhahran Zaidi. I believe on trusts me and the trust my ability to make good in game decisions. I think he trust my ability to make a good lineup decisions I'm developing a relationship with Scott Harris Our new GM I think were establishing and building building that trust look all decisions across an organization. Musician are made collaboratively when I think about lineup construction and when I think about in game decisions I'm going to consider the opinions of our field staff going to consider the opinions of our front office going to consider the opinions of the scouts that identified those players as good fits for our lineup and four roster so one thing the fans should know that I will consider everybody's opinion and value all of their opinions and at the end of the day those decisions have to be mine and so and when I say mine I mean like in the moment the in game decisions as we finish up the line of card and we bring those out to the to the Empire's inevitably that has to be the decision Asian of the manager. I think that the respect and the trust is there from far haunt and Scott to me I think they'll be proud of the decisions that I make. I think they'll they'll know that those decisions respect everybody and I think that's what's most important to an organization. Okay I just have a couple more because I've kept you longer than I promise which is one of my faults Do do you have a sense. very specifically. Who might the candidates for closer be among the staff that you have right now Yeah I'm not prepared to dive into decisions about who's WHO's GonNa be the closer me I think the first thing to do is be Open and aware and ask a Lotta questions. Look when we get to. We get to spring training. We talked about this being merit merit-based and we want to see these guys perform You know with with will smith not a giant and with no Kenley Jansen Mariano Rivera Rare Mariano Rivera style closer on the roster me some competition so I think it'd be without all of the information without actually really seeing these guys with my own eyes to declare in early December who the closer candidates are doesn't seem like it makes the most sense. Okay so I shouldn't even ask you if Tyler Beatty Logan Web. Derek Rodriguez Rodriguez are going to be starters relievers yet. I think you can ask. The question. Probably answered the same way. I mean I. I've done a lot a lot of homework on on Tyler. I've had multiple chats with with Derek Rodriguez. I played with his played with his dad. So I think the world of Logan Web I've I followed his his career to date. I think they are all candidates to be starting. Starting pitchers long-term sometimes arms like those are valuable in the bullpen and as well But I'm certainly again you know early early December reserve the right to to evaluate as we go. Okay the last question since we're both we're we're both La guys so we're both very new age where we're not afraid to introduce stuff like this but why don't you leave your body for a second and look at yourself at one thing that we've heard about you. Who is that Players not just players but a lot of people really really like you and then on the other hand there's players and other people who really really don't like you and have been put off off by maybe part of your personality so I guess the question is what is it about you that you think makes you popular with the players who like you and what is it about you that maybe the people who don't like you are probably turned off by. I think the most important thing that we can remember. Is that the job of the the major league manager. The job of the farm director is not to make everybody like you. The goal is to make really good decisions sometimes those decisions visions. You'RE GONNA lose favor like anytime I've as as a a leader in the dodgers organization as a farm director Said into a player that they're not gonNA play as much that's one thing that makes a player not love us much right. Same thing is true with the major league level. Guy Comes out of the lineup You do you take away playing time you raise the bar for somebody. You challenge them. That can be it can be off putting at times and on the flip side. I think every player that I've ever come into contact contact with every staff member that I've ever come into contact with. We'll tell you that I did everything I could to support them and put them in the best possible position to succeed. So at the end of the day as the major league manager for the San Francisco giants. What's most important to me is that our players feel respected and supported Not that they love me. That's that's not the goal. The goal is for them to feel like they have everything that they need to be successful and the rest is up to them. Okay and with that I will go. Let you hire some coaches that we can get on with life here. Thank you very much for joining me. gave out we. We have you on quite a few more times on. The giants splash enjoyed the conversation. Look forward to more. 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REShow: Gabe Kapler. Hour 2 (04-15-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Gabe Kapler. Hour 2 (04-15-19)

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So when you're ready to experience a better way to sell or trade in your car, check out truecar today. True cash offer not available in all states. Our number two. The rich Eisen show is on the air. We'd had a great chatting our one with Verne Lundquist who is perched as always in the sixteenth tower on the CBS coverage of the. Masters of the day after Tiger Woods won at all. With an amazing shot on sixteen that essentially sealed it it was a great chat with burn your phone calls at eight four four two four rich number to dial. We'll take them you're sharing your tiger stories about why was a why meant so much to you. We'll get to those calls. Also Doug Flutie is going to join the program as he broadcast the Notre Dame spring game over the weekend. And we figured let's call him up since calamari is supposed to be the first overall pick no questions about it. And he's five foot ten in eighth. And when he did measure it that we check the boxing. That's good and back in the day when Doug Flutie check the box of being five foot ten that was a bad box to check what a changing game that. We're seeing in the NFL as off season workout programs are opening up today for most of the teams in the National Football League. Today's day not only for you to file your taxes. But Russell Wilson set as a deadline to get along term deal with the Seattle Seahawks will see. What's going on on that front and my my two cents again on the NBA playoffs from the weekend just hit at a little bit. But we're we're seeing Durant play for the Golden State Warriors. And everybody's saying that he's he's already figured out being a New York knick doesn't look that way to me. But with hit on all that here on the program. I turn to the phone lines right now on pleased to have here on the richeisenshow man is getting set to take on the New York Mets tonight with his Phillies. He currently is in first place. He manages a Bryce Harper, which is one of the biggest off season signings to say, the least and major league baseball, and I'm pleased to have him on the show. And I'm not just saying that because we both have parents from Benson Hurst, Brooklyn. He's Gabe Kaplan, the manager of the Philadelphia Phillies. How are you game? How are you? I'm doing great. Yeah. My parents are from Brooklyn to Gabe. Yeah. That's kind of cool. It's it's nice out those things connect people. It is that my folks said they still have the thick New York accents. It sounds like they never left Brooklyn gave up. It's not my folks. But yeah, I I love the year my mom, tell stories about about Bentsen hers kind of cool. It's back in the day. Yeah. Back in the day. Always a good good conversation with. I know my my mom and my dad would always tell me about watching Jackie Robinson play. And it's Jackie Robinson day and major league baseball. You got your forty two reading tonight. I do it every every time I've been a part of Jackie Robinson day. And I've seen my jersey hanging in the locker at number forty two and no name on the back gives me chills. No matter where I've been matter. What clubs I've been with wearing the country. I've been always makes me feel like I'm part of something special and really lucky to have even witnessed Jackie Robinson play in video. So I mean, what a what a starred in honor to be associated with major league baseball on a day like today and taking on the Mets to you got Syndergaard coming into your house, and we'll hit that in a second. So again, it's a Jackie Robinson day and major league baseball. It'll be a fun day to watch games. And of course, reflect as well what what has it been like getting Bryce Harper Harper acclimated to the Philadelphia scene where z just done that all on his own gig, really? He's he's a pretty prepared pretty diligent individuals superintendents. Nothing catches him off guard. He was prepared for the biggest spotlight, and it was a pretty big spotlight on opening day here in Philadelphia, and then headed to Washington DC for his return to that city, and he's just managed all of the emotion and channeled it and just been a great baseball player and clubhouse leader for fynt. He's been here in Franko and Hoskins have been raking as well how how does just him being their clubhouse in the lineup. How does it affect everybody around him so far here wiping in the club out that makes us stronger unit? He doesn't feel the need to stand up in front of the group and be a rod guy. You know, you can just fit in and lead with his play on the field, which has been really really good. It's not just the offense of production that we've all seen. But it's also the base outfield player has been great and the energy level the intensity really set the tone for our club. So Bryce has been great and really happy to have. Well, we had a guy who, you know, very well Dave Roberts on the show. And he told us about talking to Harper. And during the free agency process and described sort of like an ocean's eleven type seen in Vegas just going to see him and. What was it like being part of that free agency process? The meetings with him. Pretty exciting because you can kind of you could sense that this is going to be a part of somebody's book someday part of the story and a very small piece of the story, but one that's really important. And so, you know, the recruiting process for for all of the clubs involved was a pretty intense when there's a lot of work put in and at the end of the day. This was Bryce decision about where he wanted to be for the long haul. I choosing a club for thirteen years is a real commitment. And it certainly not just about the money. Although I know I understand why people tend to think that when you make commitment to a city for thirteen years. I mean, I wanna be here. I don't wanna be anywhere else. And I'm prepared to dig in and and be a part of something special here for a very long time. So did you think at any point in time that he wasn't coming to Philly? I I mean, I think there's always that that doubt. And certainly he had many suitors and great opportunities. And I thought that he would make the decision that was best for him and Kayla and his family. And I think that's exactly what happened. Did you go to Vegas were you part of that whole scene too? I did. And it was it was a really incredible experience. He's I knew he had to important decisions to make in the Philadelphia Phillies had pretty big decisions to make. And so it felt it felt intense. And at the same time, I felt three honored to be a part of it. Did he does he have a hangover type setup like Tyson in Vegas best? You can tell and the animals or anything like that. No, no, no, no Tigers, no animals that I did. I was aware, but it was a a nice conference room and some really good conversation and in in a really nice hotel. So really, really cool. Very good. Gabe, Kappler met Phillies manager here on the rich Eisen show. You could wave a wand and make a rule change. You could tell Commissioner Manfred I want this done. And he says, Don what's that rule? Change for you. I don't have one for you rich. I can tell you that. I I really liked the strategy of the National League. It's it's a lot of fun. I mean, I love the the gamesmanship and I love the tactical decisions that go on in the game. So kinda like having the pitcher hit and at the same time. I think it would be cool to have you know, a DA can get one more guy who can bash on the roster. I you know, when it comes to rule rule changes. I kind of feel like it's the responsibility of the managers around the game to just be really good under those circumstances under the new circumstances. So that's how I think about it. All right. What then let me ask you about some of the changes that have been made. What do you think of the idea that you you might have one day the inability to change pitchers because the pitcher hasn't faced a minimum number of batters out of the bullpen yet? The way I think about it is is immediately pretty strategically. It means that we have to have guys that can go through multiple multiple battles on our roster. It means that we need to find the guys who are strongest through three batters. Instead of you know, matching up for one batter at a time. And it's kind of a I I look at it as a good challenge in a different kind of challenge. But it just changes the way you manage baseball game and everybody so one thing that I've always said is if it if it's raining on one side of the field, it's raining on the other. So if we all have the same rules, then it just becomes a race for who can be most strategic within the contract of those rules. So I don't I don't form an opinion based on who I really liked this one or oh, I really don't like this one. And instead, I just immediately focused my pension and our attention on being good under the current circumstance. All right, then let me try it this way gave Kappler if I had to wave a wand and rob Manfred said done. I would get rid of the shift. I can't stand it. I'm seeing somebody like Chris Davis go over fifty three. And I think the shift has a lot to do with it. The the rope that he hit to break up that streak. I don't know if you saw it. I mean it sailed over the head of somebody that was right there in short right center field. It drives me crazy. Would you have a problem if that went away, I don't think I don't think it drives me crazy? And in the same way. It does you I understand the passion around around the ship and at the same time if the rule was changed, and you know, we had to position our infielders. Traditionally I wouldn't have a super hard time with that either. I just don't have you know, I think part of the job of of being an entertainer on television being an entertainer on the radio is to be very opinionated about things like that. I think the job of a major league manager major league executive to do just the. Opposite. And it doesn't mean that we don't feel the feelings, but immediately shift those feelings to how do I do the best job I can possibly do under these conditions. And so I'm not I'm not taking the position here that I don't feel an initial reaction to a new rule. What I'm saying is it's my responsibility to quickly shift. How do I do a good job under the current construction? I don't paint me with a broad media brush, Gabe don't do that. I mean, you know, like don't just lump me in with everybody else. I mean, you're you're you're you're a super sharp guy. Who's Bank you doing this for a really really long time in your job to have strong opinion. Well, I do that. When I do. I really do. I'm not just you know, I don't make anything up. But I just it. It's just seems to me I want to see more action. I mean, we started this conversation with with Jackie Robinson. And for for a great reason. You know? I mean, the split screen was was invented because he stole basis or not seeing people don't steal basis anymore, but it just doesn't seem to be much action anymore. There's just the doubles and triples in the it just doesn't seem to that. The game has changed. And I just look at the shift, and I blame that. Okay. So I'll get into you conjured up an image of Jackie for me. I I will. I will I will express one strong opinion for you. Thank you. I really enjoyed as a plight. I really enjoyed ads the player the ability to have contact at the plate with the catcher. And I really enjoyed as the player the ability to have contact with the middle infielders a second date. So those those are both things that I think are were really exciting about baseball and kind of made the game. I don't know little little more rugged little rougher a little bit more old school. So the things that I kind of miss about the game that well because you're built like a brick house. I mean that helps that helps you know. I mean that have that absolutely helps in that regard. What is your workout regimen? What is it it it different now? Now, I have I have a chance to just be a manager. What do you mean? Eat whatever I want to clubhouse and come on go, go, go go for a run come on back in my day, and yours when you played, you know, manages didn't look like you. They didn't you know, they just sit there, and they just, you know, they eat some flower seeds and sit on their butts and didn't work out very much. I will say this about our staff in Philadelphia our entire coaching style. Yes. They they are really really good job of getting after it prior to the time that the players arrive at the ballpark. He's got seem like they're constantly sweating. So it's not just the work that they do in the coaches room, you know, analyzing video looking at spray charts studying the opposition. But it's also the physical condition that they do. And I think the reason that notable is because I think that, you know, players wanna know that we're all in this together. And that everybody's willing to work as hard as they are or harder to support them. And I think doing some of the things that they do is actually a good example. So I'm proud of our staff for those things. Okay. So when was the last time you had a simple sugar Gabe like legitimately, like a skittle or something. Like that was the last time. I'll tell you this. I I know you'll probably not believe this. But I ate more chocolate covered on in in. Spring training than I probably like any sweep that. I have in my tire life. I it was like one large Cup of chocolate almond after the other all the way through spring training. So I am talking bomb. Don't sound way. But re I remember I remember they have very thick coating of milk chocolate around him. And that was. That was a pretty a pretty good binge for me. I will accept that. I've got two more questions for you. Gabe Kaplan, Phillies manager here you played a day game yesterday. How how how much was the masters on in the clubhouse locker? Quite a bit. We have a couple of coaches who followed closely. I know some players were really excited about tiger. I can tell you. I didn't watch stroke of it. Okay. But it was it was definitely on in the background. And God we're talking about it. And this is not to change the topic. But with the Mets coming in. I just felt like there was some things that we had we had to attend to. Of course, hope that's understandable, make sense. It's totally understandable. Last thing for you to Gabe. You are one of nine individuals to be fortunate enough to say you were on the field. When the Red Sox broke the curse in two thousand and four Francona kept you in after being a pinch runner kept you on the field. Were you surprised that you were on kept on the field? Did you lobby for what what's this? Is. There any story behind that. So you're on you're on the field for the last out of the World Series. It would because you lobbied for. Think that's awesome. I think I would not a I mean, I was not one of the best nine guys on that on that club. Right. I think what happened in that particular case was we had a pretty strict platoon going. So I would I would bat against left handed pitchers trot. Nixon would that against right into pitchers. And then there's a pretty consistent base running switch towards the end of game for defensive switch towards the end of games. And so that's why I found myself on the field at that time. I felt really lucky in the fact that you don't believe in me at that time was was pretty special for me. And man, I I honestly just feel blessed over the whole thing. Yeah. I don't know. I would have lobbied for maybe that's why I brought it up that way. I love that you I was just kind of envisioning now in the in the manager's position player coming like pay. Please put me on the field. For this very important moment. And just like, yeah. Sure. No problem. Go ahead. I don't know. Maybe the match up you never know. Come just. Hey, thanks for the call gave a hope it's the first of many here to the show really enjoyed our chat. And and it's been a long time. So I appreciate it resigned. Joy to look forward to the next one you bet right back at you. That's Gabe Kaplan, Phillies manager. You're in the rich Eisen show. And if he wasn't studio out of him son a book. The one that's right behind Mike del tufo that book. But is it is it greatest Jews in sports is it what is it with rate? Crazy Jews and support by the way way to go out there and sports there Gabe with chocolate covered almonds. I got there, man. I mean way to go out there you love almonds put the chocolate I too I love chocolate covered almonds, but he's rocked up, man. So he only has a six pack now instead of an eight pack this like, oh, man. Fun chat. When we come back our poll question, we'll finally get to that your phone calls, and again, just watching watching the warriors. Watching the warriors dismantled the clippers. It got close in the third quarter. But watching them just push pull away made me think again of just reiterating one more time how hard I find it to believe that Durant is made a decision on his future and is playing a basketball game. Like he's playing it having decided that eight four four two zero four rich number two dial Doug Flutie still to come here on the rich Eisen show. Okay. This is a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers at you. 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But was it the best comeback in sports of the last twenty five years? So here's our list tiger one in the masters after always been through for Jinya winning the championship this year in college basketball after being the first number one to lose to sixteen the patriots Super Bowl comeback in fifty one against the falcons down twenty three in the third quarter Red Sox down three to the keys and the oh four. Gosh that finish with Gabe Kaplan. Yes. Or the Cleveland Cavaliers two thousand sixteen NBA finals down three one to the Golden State Warriors two points on that. I'm going to make a preemptory on air decision. You must remove tiger from that the recency of the event will just destroy the poll. So what's the best other sports comeback for the last? Okay. Here's just remove the Tigers stuff from it. All right. We unto everyone will understand more asking that. And the other thing is did you see Steph curry tweeted out, congratulations to to tiger talking about one of the greatest comebacks ever if not the greatest comeback ever and the amount of responses from Cavs van saying, we know of one greatest comeback story in sports is what Steph card tweeted out and then all the mentions. Just you gotta check that out. Just seal the mentions of the Cavs fans. Cleveland fans saying we know of another one being down three one. It's pretty funny. It was funny. That is pretty funny, but you just can't own Steph curry Steph curry is. Unknown -able. He's above it. He is he's not you can't own it. Can't you cannot own Steph guard latest example this past weekend where he surpassed Ray Allen for most three pointers made in the history of the playoffs. And he did it in about a third of the games at Ray Allen needed. As the the warriors took care of business against the Los Angeles, Clippers let me get the numbers here. Exactly. I want to get these numbers on Saturday night on ABC curry, thirty points, fifteen rebounds, seven assists, one block career-high, fifteen rebounds, regular or postseason. He's never had that eight to twelve from three point range and his record setting night. Thirty one thirty first career thirty one thirty first career postseason game with thirty or more points. So there you go right there. That's why. Kevin Durant wants to be Nick. How about that's why? Kevin Durant should never wanna leave the Golden State Warriors. Let's flip it on its head. Oh, yeah. Durant? Can't stay in Golden State 'cause it's curry show. He was the first one there. He went always be the Robin to Curry's Batman, even though the NBA finals last two years, the MVP was Durant. Okay. And curry can be known as the Robin to. To Durant's Batman because Curry's cool enough to be able to handle all that. We never hear once there's never the disease of me the disease of more with Steph curry never. Always Draymond green. Another reason why Durant's got to go to the Knicks. Right because let Steph go ahead and try and win it himself. Or it's the exact reason why should stay in Oakland. Or San Francisco where they're gonna start playing their games. I don't understand it. I do not understand this whole sense that he's got to go and do his own thing. He has to Doreen has to for his legacy. The big Ellwood legacy for his legacy. He's always the one that joined the the Golden State Warriors for that matter. Excuse me, he joined the Golden State Warriors after they won one. After they won one. Do you think? But after they beat his team use me. Do you think when it's all said and done. That they would have had two more in a row with a third basically, a foregone possible conclusion without Durant. No way on this green earth. They were they lost three one 'cause dream on. Green was dumb enough to kick. Lebron in the narves. That's how margin fin the margin apart. I shouldn't say dumped for Draymond green. My apologies was foolish enough. To kick. Lebron the narves. That's the razor thin margin of error. Those warriors had. The last championship against last year's was pretty easy. Well, because they had to ran you don't think they would have beat the Cavs. Anyway, we'll Brown in a bunch of bums. It wouldn't have been a lot closer. Or games? Would have gotten past. The Chris Paul was rockets. Come on. Let's be honest here. When it's all said and done why the hell would Durant leave. Why wouldn't he stay put? He's part of this dynastic run as Steph curry is to me. I'm watching this their equals. And I'm also not sitting there thinking, this guy Durant. He's so sick and tired of this winning. He's got to go to New York. He's gotta take Dolan's money. Yeah. But feeling the love matters through a lot of these guys. You're talking about a guy who is so petty. He has faked burner Twitter accounts to talk back to fan. Let me then follow up with us. Then we could take phone calls at eight four four to let me just follow. It. What this? This is an insult to the warriors an insult to the warriors. This whole argument. This whole concept is a flat out insult to the Golden State Warriors. And I don't mean the players on the team and the players on the team could take it as an insult that they feel like Durant's done enough with them, and he's got to do his own thing. And that might have been the whole to do that started this conversation. In late November that led to dream on green getting a one game suspension, and that may be going on behind the scenes that we don't even know what's going on. Because after they wanted all last year, we heard that they've been dealing with something all year long that we still don't know what that thing that was going around their locker room. But it's an insult to the warriors. What do I mean by that? You think they're just going to let Durant just stroll off to the New York Knicks without trying to make their less pitch. You don't think they're gonna show Durant? The love you don't think that they're gonna make their their pitch with their coach who's an all time. Great coach. Now, you don't think they're gonna make their pitch with their general manager. You don't think that these owners? Are gonna make their pitch to Kevin Durant and say what what are we talking about your Kevin? What do you need? You got it. Whatever you need. You got. Of course, they're going to have their last say and another ring potentially a what if they don't win. What are they going? Gives it gives another reason from the comeback ago. Join the team that beats I'm just not ready. And this is not my Dolan wormhole. And this is not my if the Knicks fan you should want him. It's not my Knicks fandom to say, I'm going to start talking about the worst case scenario because when the good stuff happens, I'll be happy, right? This is not a psychotic psychosis. I just don't I mean that Saturday night win. Was so dominant. And I understand that the clippers had a great March in that they might not be you might sit there and go other the clippers. They had a great March. Okay heroine. A great game. Mean, you know, they're they're guys had they had had some good before. Lou Williams is terrific. So on saying is this you look at that. And he's like, I gotta go start my own thing from scratch with James Dolan. Well, let me say a franchise that can't tie its own shoes for the last quarter century is that really what I wanna do for real. But yet 'cause I wanna do my own thing. I want to be my own, man. I need it for my legacy. His legacies. Just fine. His legacy is he's one of the best players of his generation is going to be spell a hall of Famer champion. He's been a champion since he came off the campus of Texas. He's gonna be he's loved in the Pacific northwest for even just as Cup of coffee there in the center of the country there still pissed at him. But guess what he did what he had to do it. But if you're him, and you've never felt the love from the fans in gold, regardless of what the organization says to you. If you've never felt like you are accepted by the bay area. Instead of is that a reliable narrative really that the accepted him. And so what could be their pitch? If you've never felt this way where you're like. All right ten million dollars. Who cares? If you've never felt the love, and you want to go somewhere that's gonna love you and accept you. And then you could do your own thing on top of it and become a God in New York City. If if you win one, why wouldn't you leave no, man? No, man. I find it hard to believe that warriors fans have not made Durant. Phil, welcome. I find that very very hard to believe he seems really angry this year. Eight four four two zero four rich number to dial here on the program. Let's take some phone calls. Andrew in in Washington has been waiting awhile. What's up Andrew? How's it going? What's going on brother? What's on your mind? Yeah. I just wanted to talk about the masters. You know, my buddy Jo Licadho caddy for caddies for tiger. You know, he had a big comeback to, you know, obviously, I don't know if you know, but he wanted nineteen Ninety-two with Fred Couples. If you waited twenty seven years for his next at school, I was unaware that. Yeah. And in as a former PGA tour caddy out there. I mean Tigers won the masters five times with three different caddies, all great ones fluff Cowan Steve Williams. And now Joe, so obviously, you know, the player hits all the shot. But it's always great to have a good guy there. And and yesterday there was some really bad caddying from some others. My glad you well, you had three guys you had three guys in in raise creek on number twelve you know, they were wrong clubs. So I mean, you can't you can't hit it in the you can't hit it in the creek there. When you're you know, few of the guys that you saw rolling in there. Now, this luck involved, but you notice tiger in. Did you didn't even look at the pin unit over there to the last thing and took his forty footer and he knew what to do. And and you know, that's that comes from a lot of experience, obviously. And it's you know, it's not as easy as it sounds. But you know, when you're in that position, and you've got six holes to play or seven holes to play, you know, when you're some of these guys you just can't hit it in the creek there. You're better off air mail it into the failures than you are to hit an Creighton for. I let you go Andrew since form academy. No, the Steiner. Did you see the video that Phil shot of him driving up to a gust on Saturday? Did you see that Andrew? I think I did where he's talking about. He wants to hit bombs, and buddy, it's gotta hit bombs, but he's also saying he can't wait to play with coocher, but they won't be any action because he's only going to see point. Oh, six percent of the of the winnings. Did you hear that? Yeah. I kind of read a little bit into it. And saw it got a little bit of a reaction. Yeah. So that's I think I think I think Kuchar one though, didn't they? Matt Matt Matt at a better day. There's no doubt about that. Thanks for the call Andrew how about that would fill house. A great video was fun. He's driving up, and we're gonna have bombs only go and hit bombs Nick Faldo made mention to that for the next two days to know saying that there was he was hitting bombs with. There was no GPS on them. Nick Faldo's, really good. I think he's one of the best in Gaul in all sports. Well, I mean, I first of all been there done that. Right. Also for this tournament. They were putting up on the board. When it looked like can't lay was when he took the lead is a matter of fact here the wait for what exactly put up like in terms of the largest comebacks final day comebacks in the history of the tournament thought. Oh, a two of them Acas. Cantwell was who them seven back writer at the day. So he felt it was six back one for one of his master's wins three back for another one. And he's just great. He's just he knows every inch of that course. Yeah. This one is going to be about a forty footer. It's going to break. Right. And then when you get to the top of the ridge, it's going to slow down and break a little left like, okay. That's what I need to know. Although there is a as far as I'm concerned a new MVP from the masters a new most valuable player. Oh my gosh. This was huge. And it got me through a lot of my weekend. I'll hit that more of your phone calls. Get ready for Doug Flutie. Get a news update. We're waiting to hear on what's going on. With Russell Wilson. That's big is big. 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Here we go the one who came running out and clip tiger in the ankle. No, no. No. No, no. Although the guy was doing his job it was western slept for his tiger. So we're we're talking about. At the top of the show about the generations in how Tigers bringing them together. And we were able to share our moments with other members of different generations you with your dad me with my kids. So in the middle of Saturday's round three after I'm watching Zan was was out of town with Susan on a camping trip. So I'm watching the masters with coop. Okay. My boy was eight and he's locked in. He's watching every stroke. It's great. But we have to leave to go to his pony baseball game. Okay. So I take him and we're driving and it's dead silent in the car. Normally put some music on you know, and I asked him what type of music he wants. Thank goodness. He's not listening to the Disney radio stuff as much anymore. But no. Any rate huge. So I say to them I say do you want to listen to music when listen to something on the way to his game? He's there in his full brewers uniform is part of the brewers, and he says to me, no, I'm like, you just want to sit in in science you that's fine. If you want to get ready for your game like mentally I'm having fun with him. He goes, no. He goes, dad. Can we listen to the masters? I almost pulled over the car and gave him a hug back. I'm like, yes, son. Yes. You can now. I know that it was on radio. But I just decided to do what I was doing all week long. Yeah. I fired up the new MVP of the masters, which is the masters app. It is that radical is one of the greatest sports apps that I've ever seen in created. I mean, so I've fired up by the way, I need to get a better data plan. I burned through a million just to the masters unlimited. So we were listening. I put it through the car bluetooth dip. We're listening to masters on the way, they're amazing. And then most importantly. During my son's game. Coupes out there. Now, hold on a moment when coupes at the back at the plate, it was time for individual chief -ment, I watched it phone down Bono phone out and videoing. Okay. When he was pitching he pitched he closed for the second straight week. Gosh caught a kid looking and I'm like cheering like it's the World Series. And I'm like, oh my God. That's an eight year old had just like struck out. All right. No, no. So, but when he wasn't it at the plate with pitching or on base because my favorite thing is when he scores he takes his helmet off like he's a major league or and he starts Chirpin it all his teammates. Like, let's go like he does the Brady thing entering I'm on. I'm on the app. I had the air pods in. I totally new. I was that dad. I looked like that dad at the game masters week. There were some other dad's kind of jealous setup jealous. I think had. What happened? I haven't set up. Yeah. I had that setup. I'm watching the masters looking at had the air buds. I was locked in that masters at. Oh my God. Pro rich. Well, I mean that's watched the little a lot though, the bring to what do we bought four the before the CBS broadcast came on screen mirrored it to the big TV base. It's amazing. And here I am. It's now the twenty th century, and I'm complaining about the feature groups that they're following along. Right upset that. I'm not seeing the golfers. That were being like, okay. That's how spoiled we are in the twenty first century hunt day the masters app. Not like I tweeted out about a Andrew cattle on of CBS who was doing the broadcast on the app. He ran out of ways to discuss how disappointing ROY mcelroy's third round. Was it was pretty bad. But that's was featured I saw every single last offer shot of it. Let's go back to the phone lines here. Michael in Massachusetts. You're here on the rich Eisen show. What's up, Michael? Let's to see that. They're just just dropped off. Okay. Paul and San Francisco, you're here on the rich Eisen show. It's up Paul. Let me what was the TV. Okay. There you go Paul lower the television. Here you go you're on what's up. First off. Thanks for having me on rich sick and one is under rant. I guess outside of the bay area. Not many people are talking about it. But the number of sightings of Durant at new chase. And watching it as it progresses makes us believe that he's gonna pull a LeBron on us and that is for a one year contract. So he can know a great the new Chason with a. Another ring. Well, what do you say? What do you say part of the supposition that he's not in the minds of of warrior fans a real warrior because he wasn't there from the ground up. Are you kidding me as anybody else into one of his one of the raise those parades? You can't get much more love for Durant than McCain carries. The the Torchy's carries that double MVP. I mean, of course, we love him. And of course, we don't want them to go anywhere Jesus. I don't know who who talks about not getting the look the only one who might think that is the rant, and that's only because she's so self centered but other than that people loved, okay, we don't care. What does attitude is outside of the basketball court because he's loved thanks for the call Paul. I really appreciate it. That's a fan. Right. They're not just because it's you could hear the emotion. But he did say, I don't know who would say such a thing. He was on hold hearing. You say such a thing and then called himself center called he's loved. I mean, that's that was great. Hey, look. So wait is I do wanna hit this. You know, what make this part of your news update? The Russell Wilson stuff. That's going on. Right. Well, because I want to take some more phone cord interesting. Yeah. It is. Eighty in Nevada or a D in Nevada. I don't know how to pronounce it still. It's long six Mikey. What's up, you're on the rich Eisen show? You wanted to say, thanks for me on. I just wanted to comment when you say relating to the younger generation because I am the younger generation, I was a young girl and the early two thousands and Tiger Woods was the only poster in my bedroom. I learned how to golf when I was little I was fortunate enough to have a dad who worked in the golf industry, and I just remember being on the green and trying to be like tiger be disciplined by tiger. Like I would see on Sundays. And when everything happened, you know, he was injured, and he got addicted to drugs and everything was his wife went down. I was laughing with the rest of the world. And I was hurt because that was my hero. And now to see him when the masters his fifth win. I believe it inspires me. Again, that was my childhood hero into see him play. Like he did when I was little girl. It takes me back takes his way back. So I'm so proud of him. Sure that story did we were you able to share it with your father? I did actually. So it's a funny thing is the do level is my father, and I kind of had a difficult relationship as I've grown up, and I contacted him today because I found the poster I had as a little girl on EBay, and it was a hundred and fifty dollars. And I wanted to see how much he paid for it back then and he told me he takes twenty dollars. So it it actually brought us together. I guess win. A d is that how you pronounce your name? It's pronounced eighty eighty number. Don't lose a number keep calling in sharing your stories. I appreciate it. Oh, well, thank you so much Richard in care. You got it. I mean, look at this. Daughter's father's father sons, assuming moms and sons like we saw Tigers mom Tita. It's great stuff as they say in the business or in the real world. It's great. It's great everything about it was awesome. What's the poll results at the end of our number two? Here's were getting ready for Doug Flutie in our number three with Kyla Murray. 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Gabe Kapler and Dave Roberts Pick Their I-5 Series Lineups

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Gabe Kapler and Dave Roberts Pick Their I-5 Series Lineups

"Hello and welcome to a joint giants flashing as plus podcasts on Henry showman and the giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and today you will hear a zoom call featuring dodgers manager Dave Roberts and giants manager Gabe Kappler. They have selected the starting lineups and the top three starting pitchers for our interstate. Five world series to be played on the AP BA or APPA simulation game more than a hundred thousand readers of the chronicle in Los Angeles Times voted and picked to thirty four player. Teams of all time greats who grew up in northern or southern California. Those team will face off. In a best of seven simulation later this month and the results will be published in both papers. My Co host on the call was her. Hey CASTILLE. The dodgers beat writer for the Los Angeles Times joining us with Roberts and Kappler were chronicle columnist Bruce Jenkins and Times Assistant Sports editor Houston Mitchell. Who will manage the teams in the Aba Simulation? You'll hear the entire zoom called interrupted after this. Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth emission except not the physical that the mission since we're all working at home the fifth and mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so check it out to the mission. Where ever you get your podcasts? Well thank you everybody for joining us. This is going to be a lot of fun. we've all been trying to figure out ways to keep you involved in baseball during the hiatus here. I am Henry Shulman. I'm the giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and on the Co host Mike Michael Host. Today is hard. Hey custody. Oh who's the dodgers beat writer for the La Times? And then we have a distinguished group of people on the line here. Who WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA come up with the LINEUPS and Starting pitchers for a seven game world series hitting all the greats who grew up or raised in the bay area or northern California and all. The great sewer raised Or born in southern California and. Hey why don't you start by letting US know who you have here from so cal. Yeah so Sam You mentioned my name is woody Gusty reporter for the La Times. I'm here alongside. Houston Mitchell Assistant. Sports editor here at the Times will be managing the team. What's going on next week? AUTHORITY THIRTY FOUR MEMBER. Roster Roberts here today to pick the starting lineup the three man rotation he thought about this long and I know that for a fact. Different lineups depending on starting pitchers he. He's he's all in so it's going to be a great little project or experience. Something like like Henry sets something different for you guys You know an opportunity. Maybe as a semi baseball in an opportunity for dating engage presents lineups seven. Done that in a while a couple of months at least from March Twelfth March eleven so a chance to do something a little different here in the naked feel like base. It's baseball season again in a month and a half a minute. She have some real baseball in the meantime. Let's do this and have a little fun with it. Okay I also should point out. I have two people from northern California. Who are GonNa Represent Northern California for you but myself the writer who came up with this Bruce Jenkins and Gabe Kappler the manager of the giants? All of us are from southern California. There's a little screwy about this right off the bat. It might be in the bag for so cal here so I have by. Giants manager gave Kappler who in his first year with the giants and was supposed to exchange real lineup. Cards with Dave Roberts on March twenty six in the season opener. And I also have Bruce Jenkins my colleague at the chronicle columnist Representative for Malibu used to be And bruce kind of devised this poll whole series the whole concept and If you just kinda briefly Bruce let us know what the Genesis wasn't how this is GonNa work. Well they. Pba You ever you you get seasons you get the last season. I think I got my first season for my dad. In nineteen sixty seven play along seasons in Saugrain and you can do things like let's replay the nineteen eighty nine world series. Maybe there will be an earthquake but I kinda tired of this team today existed at start thinking more like teams and Apa can create an awful lot of stuff for in finally came up with this idea. What about the all time Northern California Southern California? Excuse me based on the grew up not necessarily where they're born but where the grew up which which gives you Jackie Robinson from Pasadena by Way Georgia East Bay. I lay out the Texas and it's just a ball from there. I created not just kind of for me and I was GONNA play John Shea on the phone next thing you know we get the La Times involved We get a PBA involved we get Gabe Kaplan Day Robertson. Golvin as it turned into this terrific thing that role excited about it and I think it's GonNa be fun and Houston you you have been. Ap A player. You know about this step right. I have plan since one thousand nine hundred eighty and they will be remiss if I didn't point out that if you call. Ba to them. They will get mad at you. It's apple and I've been playing for a long time but no one's here to to listen to me proud along. I'm looking forward to any advice. Dave can give me to make sure the southern California team comes out of Ethni- okay. Well we got a hundred thousand people From both the readers of the La Times San Francisco Chronicle who voted to create to thirty four man teams of You know with three three players at each position including D H plus. I believe it was something like What got ten pitchers? And maybe nine out at ten pitchers ten outfielders so What Dave and gave Graciously allowed are doing is Is they're going to starting lineups for game one and and the starting the first three starting pitchers and And then Bruce in Houston are GONNA play the Games. And then it'll all be done in one night and we'll have stories in the paper an online saying Who Won One thing for you fans who are on there is a queue a button down on on your screen somewhere At the end of this we're going to have fans ask questions of gave and Dave specifically about why they chose certain guys what they think of their teams things like that. Please no no questions about job. You know Free Agency and That's ever GONNA. Is He gonNA resign all that? Sorta stuff and So you can ask the questions and will not Alan I believe is going to call them and then I will or hand. I will ask our respective managers The questions for you right now. We're GONNA flip a coin to see who the is going to be a two three two four Matt just like the real world series so we're going to flip a coin for the Homefield advantage and and Jorges and so I have the coin. Have they do? Have they do the? Okay okay. Dave Dave who uncovered heads or tails tails it is. It is heads so The Northern California team will be the Home Team. So as we do this. We'll we'll get Dave's team I and Why don't we start with the starting pitchers Game One To to really really really great pitchers Dave who who do you have starting for Southern California team in game one to go with Drysdale Don Drysdale any meyers. Drysdale is a good friend of mine and but this is not a sentimental choice. I feel good about driving. Started doing okay and Gabe. We took a long time to figure out. But who's going to be your starting. Yeah we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA go with the big unit we're GONNA we're GonNa Start Randy Johnson This the strikeouts were just too compelling and figured it might make Matching up a little bit more difficult with the lefty on the mound and Yeah I know I know how. Clever doc is with with match lefties but Figured if we if we turned Eddie Murray around may making VIP from the right side and somehow avoid Christian Yelich it makes sense. Get the big unit out there now. That was the move. Okay and what we're GONNA do. I is We're going to go over this position by position Burst and then at the end. The managers will give us the batting orders and What we'll do is starting with Hore. Hey we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA read the list of the players who won the election. Who are on the team at each position And then we'll then we'll ask the managers which one they picked in why so Or Hey if you wanted to start at first base who were the newer. The three first baseman were on the. Yeah so the three choices Dave make. I'm not envious of his position. Here Eddie Murray. So one thing to keep in mind here guys people watching. Is this one specific season. You know this isn't over the course of the guy's career so nine nine thousand nine hundred eighty two Baltimore. Orioles hit three sixteen year. Thirty two home runs We got the Mark Maguire obviously ninety eight season. Change Baseball get baseball while some people are you alive. Seventy home runs that year. Obviously and the west part of the nineteen seventy dodgers so those dates three choices and another reminder. He made his lineup specifically against the left-hander Johnson says something else to keep in mind. Dave is it was on it so they choose so. Yeah before you guys. Go crazy on twitter There is also involved So just keep that in mind and Randy Johnson gave mentioned Strikeout guy lethal on lefties So my first baseman is going to be Eat drink and be Murray any Murray Okay and further northern California team. I don't have the stats handy like. Oh Hey I'm not as As prepared but the the choices here for the first base on the northern California Team Willie stargell from the seventy three pirates. Orange mentioned. It's it's it's one season it specifically the best season that these guys had in their career. Statistically is choices. Were Willie stargell. Keith of the seventy three pirates Keith Hernandez seventy-nine cards and Bill Buckner of the nineteen eighty cups and Gave you went with Yeah Those are some some really difficult choices but Willie stargell in in his best year wasn't was an absolute animal so is actually turned out to be a pretty easy choice. And he's GonNa slot right in the middle of our lineup Give us a chance to stagger some right left and make it a little bit more difficult to to up against okay a horny. We got a second base now. Yes slow days. Choices were Jackie Robinson from the forty-nine dodgers That can't from two thousand giants and chase leaf in the two thousand six phillies. Obviously as gave mentioned we all ask some great choices. There's there's nothing wrong with any of those guys but I chose the man from Pasadena City College went to Ucla and then went to Brooklyn went to the dodgers so none other than Jackie Robinson. Wow I think he would have made a good bench guy but okay. You're the good coming off the bench for he would look good coming up. Pinch running steel a base all right for the Northern California team the second base. And I'm actually reading these. In order of how many votes they got dot among the hundred thousand people who voted And but of course the managers Gave and Dave were free to pick whomever they want. They weren't bound by who got the most votes second base for Northern California. We have Joe Morgan from the seventy six or heads. We have a push. 'em Up Tony. Lose airy from the nineteen twenty set a nineteen twenty nine Yankees. He was part of that. Great Lineup with Garrick Ruth. All those guys and then Dustin Pedroia from the the Red Sox who grew up in woodland is a little town now about an hour and a half northeast of San Francisco so gave Henry. That's this was pretty easy to. It's it's Joe Morgan People forget what incredible well rounded player Joe Morgan is if you look at him and he's a little bit undersides but the dude could bash It's homers gets on base. Plays in the middle. Yeah this was. This one was easy as well okay. We'll move along to shortstop or he. Yes our shortstop Ozzie. Smith at the eighty seven cardinals Dinner hit hormone that year but obviously plays great defense Nomar Garciaparra with two dozen Red Sox the year hit three seventy two an Alan Trammell of eighty seven tigers love mall but I went with no Mar. I think that you're talking about that starter for game one for the nor CAL team in the Unit. You gotta try to find a way to slug that guy. And you'RE NOT GONNA put hits together gets randy so at no more might get a slider down in and hit went into the seats if I can just barge in here that number three choice was actually Robin Yount. Mvp and eighty two. Now I didn't have Robin Out Bruce I just had I had Alan Trammell so. Mvp TO. I didn't know why didn't get that as an option. So blame warhead not me now. I didn't either. This is what I got this email that I got no apologies day. Okay on but we'll work this out. If we can but for the shortstop for the Nash over the Northern California's I WANNA point out that. The two people who just missed the cut are two guys who are very popular now. Brandon Crawford and Marcus Simeon. They didn't make the cut for shortstop in a North Cal. Team Gave choices were deployed to Lewinsky from the South Bay. Jimmy Rollins From the East Bay and Joe Cronin from the nineteen thirty senators got. Got Some love here so Who who's going to be the starting shortstop agape what will it start with Pointing out that I might get a little cruise back from kron this match. He's he's going to be watching carefully here but Yeah this was too low for me. all this was talked. Gero is such a good all around baseball player And such an igniter at the top of the lineup. By here here. It was too low just given the all around player that he was at that time and the numbers he was putting up for the rockies in and a pretty friendly hitter environment. Okay now we have the hot corner third base at third base. We Got George Brett. Nineteen ninety royals At three ninety that year Eddie Mathews Nineteen fifty-three Braves and Nolan our NADO twenty seventeen rockies. I went again understanding that The Big Unit Nolan Aeronautical I think that George Brett Matthews tremendous players hall of famers. But I think that if you're talking about a ninety seven ninety eight the slider that comes from seems like the first base dugout been in that box against that guy Left he's don't slug him so. I think that you look at what Nolan does against left. Handed pitching gets on base and slugs and so. And you'RE GONNA. You're not gonNA find a better third base so Nolan against the unit. Okay and extend on. If there's any way you can program are not to think. He's facing giants pitching off immensely. I'll do my best okay. gave we had three choices at third base. Here that the fans voted Carney Lansford in nitty and stan hat from the one thousand nine hundred ninety thirty eight cups. Yeah Henry thank you. We went with With community here and again. This is kind of like Docs lineup. He's got some guys that had huge years and maybe if it was going for the entire career he would have made different choices. I felt the same way But with Cameron Eighty. He's just so tough you know. There's their stories out there about IMM being sick on on days during that magical season and him getting IV and trainers telling them not to go out on the field and play him ripping the IV out of his arms. And I'm playing and we needed a little toughness. And so he gets the nod at third base. All right We'll move to the outfield entree. let's go to catcher. That's the next one on the list. so yes. Oh catcher we have Gary Carter of the nineteen eighty-four Expos Lance Parrish to the nineteen eighty two tigers and Bob Moon of the nineteen eighty-eight. Angels with the Kid Gary Carter. He's GonNa be The battery up this entire series a wonderful. That's inside dope for Gay Information. Game on you get okay. The catcher the Catcher for the Northern California team we had Ernie Lombardi. The SCHWA- is from the Nineteen. Thirty eight reds. Who was at the time considered these slowest athlete in Human History We also have by Stephen Vote. He was a great hitter though. Stephen Vote From the twenty fifth as and Joe Ferguson from nineteen seventy nine dodgers a guy. I rooted for as a kid growing up in L. A. So who's GonNa Catch The big unit in Game One. Yeah Henry that's GonNa be that's GonNa be Lombardi so Stephen Vote because we love the emotional leader that he is. This actually turned out to be a hard choice and ownby open. I didn't know much about Lombardi at all. I had to go back and research. But in that in his best year he had for eighteen waited on base average I don't care how slow he is. He's in the lineup. Yeah and you know he talked. He talked about that on weighted on base average. A lot of back in nineteen thirty nine right in the outfield. There were nine outfielders. You made the team and I think even the southern California team would admit that the northern California team is pretty stack here but the whole. Hey if you wanted to kind of quickly rattle off the nine outfielders who will be on the team. And then ask Dave which three off so I stopped Ted Williams. Nineteen forty one. Red Sox four zero six. Tony Gwenda ninety four padres. You're hitting three ninety four Duke Snider from the fifty four Dodgers Christian Yelich on this past season. Twenty Nineteen Brewers Fred Lynn from the seventy nine red SOx Ralph Connor from the nineteen forty nine Pittsburgh pirates dusty Baker in the nineteen eighty dodgers George Foster from the seventy seven reds and bobby bonds from the seventy three giants. Dave alright going from left to right that you want me to do all three or just a leftfielder. Are you GonNa do all three okay? Going from left to right splendid splinter Ted Williams Field Duke Snider in Centerfield and pulling up right field is Mr Padre Tony Gwynn okay and Let's get to the northern California Is this is This is a great list Joe Dimaggio Ricky Henderson Barry Bonds Barry bonds came in third behind Rickman demise. Show which was interesting up here. Frank Robinson left. Yo dual who of a lot of you folks might not know but he He went two batting titles including nineteen twenty nine. Billy's which is The year he is here. Willie McGee Aaron judge currently with the Yankees curt flood and Harry Heilmann From the nineteen twenty-three Tiger. So which three did you select a y'all go from left to right here as well And just like dot pointed out earlier in the call. Wait to pass judgment until we talk about the year. That's an important. It's an important rookie. Ricky plays plays left field for US on and by the way like these weren't especially tough choices once we knew we had the D. H. Frank Robinson play right and jolt Joe. Dimaggio will play center for us. Okay well that's a pretty. That's a pretty good outfield right. There we will move onto the designated hitter and or Hey. Your choices are much anybody. That's make the list. So Dave who? Who's your dates? You were going a little back and forth on this. The D H Against Randy is going to be mark. Maguire Okay and I think there's name that you haven't uttered yet Gabe who's going to be the D. H. For the nation of for the Northern California. And who would that be Berry Berry? Bonds is going to be the age what I think for. A couple of years was was the The the two greatest seasons offensive seasons in in major league history So so Barry bonds gets the nod at the edge. Okay now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA do the batting orders now and It just it just funny. It's funny to me Wait till you hear the managers who they picked second to. It's such a modern thing Speak these are not abundant guys and I even joked with Gave about that Th this is not the traditional get on base Bonham over. Get Him in type of lineup on either team So a day. Would you mind telling us what? You're batting? Order is going to be all right leading us off for for the southern California allstars Jackie hitting in the two hole Ted Williams And I don't think Gabe your shift in our virtual series. Don't Shit this splendid splinter number three Eddie Murray and I liked the switch bat so you know when they want to kind of match up we could get Eddie on the left side to Mark Maguire hitting cleanup nomar hidden in the five. The Duke Duke. Snider hit in the six Nolan Aeronautical hitting seven Tony gwynn which I don't think he's ever hit AKA entire life. Unfortunately so Tony Gwynn Junior Don't don't hold it against me hitting your father a so. He's hitting eight against the unit and Gary Carter the kids at night okay and that your team is going to be facing Don Drysdale. So we know that whoever the number one pitcher hitter is is going to get knocked on his but in the first pitcher this series. Because that's what Don Drysdale bid So what is your lineup? I feel pretty good about Rookie Anderson's confidence. In that scenario. I feel like he's back off. And you know what if you gets hit? He's on first base. Ricky or maybe third base third. Maybe third base Barry Bonds. Its second I liked. Docs call with with Williams in the two hole As kinda scary up at the top Robinson and then Ted Williams Frank Robinson hits third for us then Willie stargell like I said that historic season. Jodi Maggio Hits Fifth Joe. Morgan comes in behind the Maggio. Then Ken Caminiti Troy to ski and Lombardy and the nine all around it out. Okay and before we start analyzing the teams here Just two things first of all if you do have a question for any of the managers regarding these teams use the QNA button on zoom and The only question I have so far is where gave God his cap so we'd like it to be a little more Like with a conversation the one thing we didn't do what. Hey if you could read it is if you could read the list of the The pitchers that all the pitchers who made the team and then maybe gave could say who would like to back or like pitch game two and game three. Yeah so I don Drysdale which is the game. One starter Walter Johnson from the nineteen thirteen senators. Jim Palmer from the seventies orioles. Rollie fingers from the eighty brewers. Trevor Hoffman from the ninety. Eight padres Bret Saberhagen from eighty nine. Royals Stephen Strasburg from the seventeen Nationals Garrett Cole from the Twenty Nine Nineteen Astros Bob Lemon for the nineteen fifty two Indians and BURP Levin Seventy three twins. Okay Dave Judy thank you. Who'S GONNA PITCH GAME? Two in game three in your mind game too. There are some tough ones. Obviously there's a lot of Opposite a lot of great choices. But I'm going to go with Walter Johnson and The strikeout numbers the big body Really IMPRESSIVE WORKLOAD. And obviously we were just talking about one series. But he's going to start game two and game three is gonNA be Jim Palmer and I think that I kinda toiled between some guys that are more Modern Day Garrett Cole one I think I'll take the hundred You know sometime later in the game before we get to Raleigh and Trevor Time. Okay and If you end up leading in game seven in the ninth inning This whole thing might end on a changeup if you pick. Trevor and I always thought that was funny when there'd be Sixty Thousand Ninety Eight playoff sixty thousand people screaming stomping their feet And as he came in with Hell's bells playing and then it was. It was great though for Houston. Maybe after a little a hundred from Garrett Than Jeb. So there you go all right. The ten National League pitchers Randy Johnson. Who IS GOING TO START GAME ONE? We have Tom Seaver From seventy one. That's Randy Johnson's from the two thousand. Two Bax you've Dennis Eckersley from the nineteen ninety two as now. Eckersley was a starter at at one point but this is a season where he was. I believe perfect or near perfect and saves a one of his teammates. Dave Stewart from the ninety as is on the team lefty Gomez one of the Great World Series pitchers ever nineteen thirty four Yankees Dave Righetti Also a starter and a reliever but in this case from the nineteen eighty six Yankees when I believe he was Still a starter or reliever by then C Sabathia from the two thousand seven Indians Tug McGraw from the Nineteen. Seventy two mets Mike Norris from the nineteen eighty as and John Wetland a closure of the nineteen ninety-three Yankees. So I gave after we see big unit game one. What do you think we're GONNA see in Game Two three four tonight? We're going to see Tom. Seaver in In Game Two not GONNA go too deep into Tom. I feel like is number in his history. Speaks for itself My third choice was C C Sabathia. And this one's probably going to be a little bit more controversial given all of the great pitchers on that list but I had a chance to play with C. C. And against him quite a bit but with him in two thousand and eight so in that prime period two thousand seven two thousand eight. There wasn't a guy that wanted to ball in a bigger moment. I mean this is a guy that thrived in the spotlight and put his teammates on his back. So this is very similar to the Kennedy discussion. We had earlier. You need that guy that that wants the ball and the biggest moment drives in. That situation never gets tired and see. Was that guy for me. Oh seven Oh eight beast in. Cici gets nodding in game three okay. Great Well Bruce Jenkins Houston Mitchell. You've heard the teams that you're going to be managing and the way it's GonNa work as Bruce and Houston will manage the teams as as the computer. Simulations go on you'll be making substitution. And as I understand it Because the fans voted in the thirty four guys it the one sort of non old school thing is you guys are going to try to get as many of the thirty four guys in at some point in the series one way or the other so HOUSTON The estimated visited. What do you think your team lineup? I think it's a lot of pressure on me now to make the right movements of the team can win. Dhaka's set me up perfectly. My question for doc would be to to some advice. I need here lane gaming. I'LL LEAVE. We Bring Ozzy in for defense over no more and the other thing is fingers or Hoffman. Who would you favor as the closer in and among those those are two? Great closers Houston I love questions and I do think that. No marks never been defense for As a shortstop obviously but you don't get better than the wizard so with the lead. Hopefully a no mark took his fourth at Bat. Ben HERE COMES THE WIZARD. Certainly and for me Kind of trevor. I played with them. This is a guy that prepares like no other is a strike thrower The changeup is is lethal and understand if these guys haven't seen trevor I just can't go outside of Trevor Hoffman. So that's my choice. That's a great question to ask Gabe as well. I mean the list of relievers on that you have for the ninth innings. Dennis Eckersley Dave Righetti John Wetland all great great relievers in their prime If you if you had your druthers who would you like Bruce to close out games with you know I'm GonNa go with ECK So I I feel like ECK learned from from nine hundred and the whole run that they give you hit off him made him a better pitcher and I'm excited to to have him closing out games in the night okay Do you have any questions for your your guys? No just I guess it's sort of a question but even our Senate text back and forth a little bit here of third base. I know it was a tough choice for you if you can kind of walk through your your decision making ongoing without Renato over over Georgia Grad. Who had three ninety year while I think that certainly the whole body of work he had three ninety? I know a lot of people that played for the royals Namely Buddy black still one of his good friends and no-one consistently hit the ball harder George. And there's crazy stories about George. I got a quick story by George Brett where one Dan Kansas City George told his teammates that it was probably one hundred thirty on the turf and he told his teammates in the spirit of what gave Stockman early about gamers that I'm not going to have a drink of water the entire game. I'm going to be the first one on the field. The first one into the dugout every single inning. So after we get this win that beer is gonNA taste so good so sure enough. Every game he probably throughout three that game. The royals win. I went on I back in the DUGOUT and sure enough. He was pretty much to hydrated but got it through. The game led the team to win And had that cold beer. But I think again randy just neutralize the lefty so you really tough to get hits let alone slug get on base and George. You know even in that season where you have to ninety seven sixty that that you're against the left-handed pitcher so and that's not facing a unit so I think that you know the defense and also you look at Nolan in that year. I think he had a thirteen against lefties. So that's a big Delta right there so I I just like Nolan and Georgia being there against seaver Gabe. I had a question I just. I just wanted to know what it was like for you to sit down with a piece of paper a computer. Whatever it is you wrote your lineups with and wrote down the names demongeot. Henderson bonds and Robinson. A big the most fun I had was going back. And digging into Ricky's Ricky's best year. he just he had a knack forgetting on. Bass obviously I I had so much fun. Writing isn't with at the top of the lineup. Because of all the all the things that he can do independent of him getting on base and the freedom and the flexibility that he might give Bruce as he managed our club Knob and I had a lot of fun thinking about that that outfield. I guess the biggest question was who'd have in the outfield right was gonna be bonds or bonds at. The physician. Did a lot of work in a lot of questions about the defensive capabilities of each guy and came away feeling. Pretty good about our out our outfield as a defensive unit and obviously that top four leaders in the lineup five the lions are pretty impressive. Yeah and you know it's it's very bonds from two thousand and one and I have covered him I think I can. I can say that by that point. He wasn't the outfielder that he was. You know say in Nineteen When we first came up and in almost those great pirate teams of Nineteen Ninety. Two and three I got we have some questions from the fans and I have one that is really a good question for both of you and if I could find it and it was But basically the question is how much that you guys use advanced analytics to Pick your teams Maybe you start with Alan I WOULD. I'd say a you know I. It's hard for me to obviously. You can't argue Ted Williams and and Duke Snider but I think that just kind of looking at you know some advanced analytics. I think that you know. For example. Tony. Gwynn was one for eleven. Think against against Randy Johnson. But for me. It's kind of looking forward and still betting the fact that He could hit a lefty. He has it lefties That's why he's in the lineup and Odyssey's Tony Gwynn but there was a little bit. I've I kind of if you look at the right handed lineup against Tom. Seaver you know I'll give Gabe Ahead Yelich in left field over the splendid splinter who's going to D. H. And so there's a little bit of metrics in that understanding who can cover more ground a little bit on the margins but You know Houston asked a question earlier about defensive with Ozzy versus no more those are metrics and last thing is to piggyback on Gabes. Kind of one thing that was fun for me was looking at the middle for game to potentially is Ozzie. Smith and Jackie in the Middle Plan Together. That that's something that. I wish I could go back in time and put those two in the middle of the diamond Gabe. How deep did you dive into the numbers? Nah I'm glad you ask the question. It's a fun one to talk about because my my inclination is to die pretty deeply but for this exercise I took a surface level. Day digging and then just got really invested in the fun of it. You know the the hall of famers that we're talking about the players that Dave and I played against that are on this list. It was just a lot of fun and and I really wanted to to enjoy it. I mean I think the platoon split thing is is fun and certainly like when when David. I exchanged lineups. It was nice to be able to kind of try to match up and and think a little bit more deeply about it but at the same time this exercise is built for enjoyment fund fans fans having fun and thinking along with us and then ultimately like there were so many good decisions that it was hard to make a bad one. Okay Here's a question here that took be like asking you to pick your favorite child First of all the first question Question about analytics was from Richard. Woody Gay This question is from somebody named Jalen and I'll start with you. Gave you have to hit? Who is your favorite player in your starting lineup? And why that's Yeah I mean I'll probably just go with with Caminada here I. This is a guy that I played with played together in Texas in the early two thousands watched him play as I was kind of coming of age and as a young professional baseball player and he was so fierce like. That's the word out. Used to describe them. Sure Daca tell you you look and Ken. Kennedy's is and he. It's intimidating and and this is a guy that flashed the leather had a canon played. Hurt had pop knew the game very well and supported his teammates so just from a strict favourite perspective on goes camp. David I think for me. It's a pretty easy one This man not only play the game with a passion chip on his shoulder. Responsibility was bigger than the game as far as understanding his legacy. So Jackie Robinson. Okay and Dave. There was a question that is sort of somewhat related And I don't have the person who acid at the moment but why did you pick Jackie Robinson to lead off over Tony Win? Well I think that in this situation in this first game I felt that he had a better chance to get on base versus a unit And hopefully we'll get the unit after they're at an awfully. Tony went off to face unit. Only twice and I'll take my chance. Jackie facing that big leftie three times. Okay you you will move up the line up Against seaver okay. That question was from Ed. Here's a good question from both of you from Brian How do you prepare for something like this with different styles and different generations as Clayton? Kershaw said last night. I believe that was on a dodger. Zoom it's impossible to prove who is better So how do you wrap your brain around cross generations and I know an easy answer? Is that war is a statistic that does account for different Eras But aside from kind of looking at war game how how do you Kinda like decide with which you know which generation to pick from in the teams or did you just sort of you know kind of that in just go with the years. I know I mean I think the first thing that we do is we we ask ourselves about our own experience and and what we witnessed personally right so I was thinking about dogs side of things and in Christian Yelich over the course of the last couple of years as good as any baseball player particularly against right handed. Pitching that that I've I've seen or or study And then you go back a little bit further and we talk about a guy like Barry bonds if you you pay attention to what he accomplished in a four five year stretch. You know. It's it's up there with with the greatest of all time watching my trout right now by way of example maybe talking about the greatest player that ever lived and then when when you have to go back and learn about a player like Ida with with Lombardi. It's really much more about just laying out the numbers on analyzing those numbers relative to modern day players. So yeah this is the part about the exercise trying to balance what you see on paper. What witness with your own eyes and I think that for me and I know that last night we had we had a call and With with a bunch of dodger fans and I think that with Clayton. I think that we took this many times with the greats in. You're talking you know. Literally less than an across the of cross all industries less than a hundred people one hundred athletes that are called potentially in a conversation of the greatest of all time and with their respect sports so I think that those people most athletes don't like that conversation because you're talking about them but I think all of us and it's ninety nine point nine to the to the end as fans of the game it bridges stories generations. And that's the only way we can kind of in. Its Banter back before so for me. I love to figure out who the best baseball players. Who the best pitcher is who the best quarterback of all time do rings matter all that stuff. That's a part about being a sports fan so I do think that when I have talked to the greatest of all time whether you're talking about Michael Braun Koby Curse Sandy. They don't like that conversation to be quite which is kind of interesting. Okay well we are running out of time here so I don't we get some last words here from let's start with the Hor- hey do you have any any last words about this whole thing? Now I just appreciate. I'm gave David guys doing this taking the time out. You know it's fun exercise Something that makes everyone sorta thank in baseball into the fold little bit as we wait here to see. We're GONNA see real baseball this summer Just one last question. I thought it was a good one. Here sort off what. They disdained engaged. We're just talking about which one of these guys on your lineup. Would you WANNA see in today's game? Is there anybody in particular you did you relate sick gave you? WanNa go first. Sure I mean Dimaggio for me right I I would love to see him. Run around Centerfield And obviously like with the hitting streak just Kinda love. You can't say that it would happen in this kind of modern day alternate universe. But I'd love to see if it would. It's always interesting because players are now And this is not really up for debate. Bigger faster stronger. More athletic twitch your have more technology more tools at their fingertips. It would be really fascinating to watch a guy like Jordan Macho played in the fifties. Come throw throw his hat in the ring in in today's Environment. See how how he fared. I think for me it's Ted Williams I do WANNA see that seat in right center. Field Fenway Park. See how close. He can get her if he'd really did hit that seat. But you know he's one of the best of all time obviously so I'd love to see him monitoring okay Can you guys hear me? I'm a I'm getting a little bit of a message saying that. My Internet is unstable. Sort of like me rate. I the interesting thing to me in that question is I would. Who would like to be the one who Jackie Robinson comes back to life Ted Williams comes back to life and you guys have to tell them that. Well you know you really can't slide past the bag and if you go after the second Baseman shortstop You're going to be out and it'll be a double play. I I wouldn't want to have to tell those guys that I don't want gay bath. I want to be in the room. When gave Kennedy? He can't do that all right. Hey I'm sorry. Were there any other questions that you saw from the fans that you thought no now? That was it. That was a great question to ask because that's always talked about watching the last dance and we were watching the last dance and everyone's arguing Jordan snappy. Six bowls beat the seventeen warriors Eighty six and all that stuff. So I think it's happens in every sport is as was mentioned earlier. Who's the greatest quarterback of all time this and that and you know it's fascinating to imagine these guys playing in today's ever with the you know the on style from the slugging the velocity BC NOWADAYS? So a question asked by. I don't know who look it up. But it was a great question. Asked who else here thought. The last dance was about Baryshnikov and didn't watch it okay. Well anyway right Houston Mitchell any last words. Just WanNa thank. Dave gave doing this a lot and Dave for set me up so beautifully and You know if I blow this. I'm sure my newsletter readers will be all over me and feel free to send me an email telling me what a horrible manager I am and but thanks a lot for for setting it up and Bruce while I want to thank you for making my job. Easy had my lineup. And his are exactly the same. The one I drew up this morning And at final toast of the two thousand four Red Sox one of the greatest stories ever told in. Both of these guys were part of that team. Yeah that absolutely. I do want to point out that that will two things gave first of all. Gabe has my name on the on his Zoom window that that was only if you're wondering that was because I ended up sending him my link because he was having a little trouble getting in also. WanNa point out if you look at Games lineup. It's very it's balanced. It's you know it's what making us managers like to do. I mean it goes right. Left right left right left. Switch right right so dave. You're going to have a little bit of trouble doing you know. Fortunately we don't have the three battery minimum rule for the pitchers you can. You could swab guys out to your heart's content. I I heard rumor that you like to do that sometimes but anyway. I WanNa thank all of you especially the managers and just want to say to the fans who are on here and we'll be listening to this podcast and whatnot. I can absolutely assure you that Gabe Kaplan and Dave Roberts were really into this and there was some sort of regular season gamesmanship going on in here that I might write about at some point and They're you know it's good to know that both teams are in the hands of people who ah managers who are just if they get into something if they're asked to do something they don't do it half blanked they. They're really into it. So thank you guys and I WANNA thank everybody from joining the zoom and At Bruce One. When are we GONNA win of the game's going to be played May twenty six? We're GONNA play the whole best seven one night. The Games do go pretty quickly. So don't like settling in for four hours or Wanna. Thank my co-host Studio and hope everybody here has good afternoon. Thanks guys thanks cat word. Naked Luck. Houston thank you. Thank you for listening to this special zoom featuring manager Dave Roberts the dodgers and gay Kappler of giants Bruce Jenkins and Houston. 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Gabe Kapler and Dave Roberts Pick Their I-5 Series Lineups

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Gabe Kapler and Dave Roberts Pick Their I-5 Series Lineups

"Hello and welcome to a joint. Giant splash as plus podcast. I'm Henry Schulman the giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and today you will hear a zoom call featuring dodgers manager Dave Roberts and giants manager gave Kappler. They have selected the starting lineups and the top three starting pitchers for our interstate. Five world series to be played on the AP BA or APPA simulation game more than one hundred thousand readers of the chronicle in Los Angeles Times voted and picked to thirty four player. Teams of all time greats who grew up in northern or southern California. Those teams will face off in a best of seven simulation later. This month and the results will be published in both papers. My Co host on the call was her. Hey CASTILLE. The dodgers beat writer for the Los Angeles Times joining us with Roberts and Kappler were chronicle columnist Bruce Jenkins and Times Assistant Sports editor Houston Mitchell. Who will manage the teams in the simulation? You'll hear the entire zoom call on interrupted after this. The twenty twenty baseball season like all sports is on hiatus. But we at the chronicle know that you still wanna hear from giants players coaches managers and other baseball news makers on the giants. Splash podcast. I'm beat writer Henry. Showman colleague John Shea and I plan to keep you informed in print online and here on the splash especially on the important matter of when baseball will resume the giants splash available on your favorite podcast APP. Well thank you everybody for joining us. This is going to be a lot of fun We've all been trying to figure out ways to get involved in baseball during the Hiatus here I am Henry Shulman. I'm the giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and on the CO host. Mike Mike Ojos today is what? Hey custody. Oh who's the dodgers beat writer for the La Times and then we have a distinguished Group of people on the line here who We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA come up with the LINEUPS and starting pitchers for a seven game world series hitting all the greats who grew up or raised in the bay area or northern California and all the greats who raised or born in southern California. And once you start by letting US know who you have here from so cal. Yes so Sammy mentioned on my name is what custodio guys reporter for the La Times. I'm here alongside. Houston MITCHELL ASSISTANT. Sports editor here. At The Times. We'll be managing the team. What's going on next week? AUTHORITY THIRTY FOUR. Roster Abe Roberts here today to pick the starting lineup the three-man rotation he thought about this long and hard I know that for a fact. Different lineups depending on starting pitchers he. He's he's all land so it's GonNa be a great little Project experience something like like Henry sets something different for you guys You know an opportunity. Maybe ask some semblance of baseball and an opportunity for dating engaged to presents. The lineups haven't done that in a while a couple of months at least right from March twelfth March eleventh so a chance to do something a little different here. The naked feel like base. It's baseball season again in a month and a happy nine. She had some real baseball in the meantime this and have a little fun with it. Okay I also should point out. I have but to people from northern California. We're going to represent northern California for you but myself the writer who came up with this Bruce Jenkins and gate. Kappler the manager of the giants. All of us are from southern California. So they're slipping a little about about this right off the bat. It might be in the bag for so cal here so I have by. Giants manager gave Kappler. Who is in his first year with the giants and was supposed to exchange real lineup. Cards with Dave Roberts on March twenty six in the season opener. And I also have Bruce Jenkins my colleague at the chronicle columnist Ease the representative for Malibu used to be And bruce the one who kind of devised this Poll whole series the whole concept and If you could just kind of briefly bruce let us know what the Genesis wasn't how this is GonNa work well. Pba You ever you you get seasons you get the last season. I think I got my first season for my dad in nineteen sixty seven play along seasons. It's all great and you can do things like let's replay the nineteen eighty nine world series. Maybe there won't be an earthquake stuff like that but I kinda tired of this team today existed at start thinking more like all star teams and AP can create an awful lot of stuff for a and finally came up with this idea. What about the all time? Northern California gets southern California. Excuse me a based on the grew up not necessarily where born but where the grew up which which gives you Jackie Robinson from Pasadena by way of Georgia and East Bay by way of Texas And it just evolved from there. I created the teams just kind of for me and I was GONNA play John Shea on the phone next thing you know we get the La Times involved We get a PBA involved. We get Gabe Kaplan David Robertson. All it turned into this terrific saying that role excited about it. And I think it's GonNa be fun and Houston you you have been A. Pba Player You you know about this stuff right. I have been planned since nineteen eighty and they would be remiss if I didn't point out that if you call a PBA to them they will get mad at you. It's APPA and Ivan planned for a long time but No one's here to to listen to me proud along. I'm looking forward to any advice. Dave can give me to make sure the southern California team from sound. Okay well we got one hundred thousand people From both readers of the La Times a San Francisco Chronicle who voted to create to thirty four man teams of You know with three three players in each position including a D. H. Plus I believe it was something like What got ten pitchers and maybe nine out at ten pitchers ten outfielders so What Dave and gave Graciously allowed are doing is is. They're going to pick starting LINEUPS for game one and and the starting the first three starting pitchers and And then Bruce and Houston are gonNA play the Games and then it'll be done in one night and we'll have stories in the paper and online saying a WHO won One thing for you fans who are on there there is a queue a button down on on your screen somewhere It at the end of this. We're going to have fans ask questions of gave. And Dave specifically about why they chose certain guys what they think of their teams things like that. Please no no questions about You know a free agency and That's ever GONNA. Is He gonNA resign all that sort of stuff and so you can ask the questions and we'll Alan I believe is going to call them and then I will or hand. I will ask our respective managers The questions for you right now. We're GONNA flip a coin to see who the is going to be a two three two format just like the real world series. So we're going to flip a coin for the Home Field advantage since I have the coin They do have they do have the. Okay Okay Dave. Dave who uncovered heads or tails tails. It is it is heads so the northern California team will be the home team so as we do this will will get Dave's Team I and Why don't we start with the starting pitchers for Game One To to really really really great pitchers Dave who who do you have starting for Southern California team in game one I would go with Drysdale Don Drysdale Drysdale's a good friend of mine and but this is not a sentimental choice. I feel good about drizzle started. Okay and gave. We took a long time to figure out. But WHO'S GONNA BE? You're starting a we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go with the big unit or GonNa we're GonNa Start Randy Johnson This the strikeouts were just too compelling and figured it it might make Matching up a little bit more difficult. With the lefty on the mound. I know I know. How clever doc is with with match these but Figured if we if we turned Eddie Murray around may making it from the right side and somehow avoid Christian Yelich it made sense to get the big unit out there. That was that was the move. Okay and what we're GONNA do. I is We're going to go over this position by position First and then at the end the managers will give us the batting orders and What we'll do is starting with We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA read the list of the players who won the election. Who are on the team at each position And then We'll then we'll ask the managers which one they picked in. Why so Or Hey if you wanted to start at first base who were the WHO were the three first Baseman who were on the the the three choices Dave had a make. I'm not envious of his position. Here where Eddie Murray from so one thing to keep in mind here guys. People watching is from one specific season. You know. This isn't over. The course of you know guys career so at nine eighty two Baltimore. Orioles hit three sixteen year. Thirty two home runs We got the Mark Maguire obviously is ninety eight season. Change Baseball Baseball. Some people are you alive. Seventy home runs at your obviously and then we got west. Park of the nineteen seventy dodgers. So those are Daves three choices and another reminder. He made his lineup specifically against the left-hander Randy Johnson sending us to keep in mind. Dave is it was on it so so yeah before you guys go crazy on twitter There is a also involved So just keep that in mind and Randy Johnson has gave mentioned Strikeout guy lethal on lefties So my first baseman is going to be Eat DRINK and be Murray Andy Murray Okay and now for the Northern California team. I don't have the Standi or hey I'm not as As prepared but the choices here for the first base on the northern California Team Willie stargell from the seventy three pirates. As I mentioned. It's it's it's one season. It specifically the best season that these guys had in their careers. Suggestively his choices. Were Willie stargell Keith. Of Seventy three pirates Keith Hernandez of the seventy-nine cards and Bill Buckner of the nineteen eighty cups. In a gave you went with it. Yeah Those are some some really difficult choices but Willie stargell in in his best year was was an absolute animal. So it's actually turned out to be a pretty easy choice and he's GonNa slot right in the middle of our lineup Give us a chance to stagger some right left and make it a little bit more difficult to to matchup against okay a horny. We got a second base. Now yes days. Choices were Jackie Robinson from the forty. Nine dodgers Two thousand giants and chase leaf in the two thousand six phillies. Obviously as gave mentioned. We all have some great choices. There's nothing wrong with any of those guys but I chose the man from Pasadena City College went to Ucla and then went to Brooklyn the dodgers so none other than Jackie Robinson. Wow I think he would have made a good bench guy by man that good coming off the bench for Shiite he would look good coming up a pinch running steel a base all right for the Northern California team the second basement and I'm actually reading these. In order of how many votes they got dot among the hundred thousand people who voted and But of course the managers Gave and Dave were free to pick whomever they want weren't bound by who got the most votes Second Base for Northern California. We have Joe Morgan. From the seventy six or heads. We have Kushima time from the nineteen twenty. Set a nineteen twenty nine Yankees He was part of that. Great Lineup with Garrick Ruth. All those guys and then Dustin Pedroia from the Red Sox who grew up in woodland is a little town about an hour and a half northeast of San Francisco so gave Yeah Henry. This one was was pretty easy to. It's it's Joe Morgan People forget what incredible well rounded player Joe Morgan is you look at him. And he's a little bit underside. But the dude. Good Bash It's homers gets on-base plays in the middle. Yeah this was. This one was easy as well. Okay we'll move along shortstop or yes. I got a Ozzie Smith at eighty seven cardinals Dinner hit a home run that year but obviously plays great defense Nomar Garciaparra with two dozen Red Sox year hit three seventy two an Alan Trammell of eighty seven tigers love mall but I went with no more. I think that you're talking about that starter for game one for the nor CAL team In the unit you gotTa try to find a way to slug that guy and you're not gonNA put hits together against Randy Nomar. He might get a slider down in and hit went into the seats if I can just barge in here that number three choice was actually Robin. Yount. Mvp Eighty two. And I didn't have robin you out. Bruce I just I had Alan Trammell also have an. Mvp Eighty two. I didn't know why didn't get that as an option so blame. Jorges admit now. I didn't either and this is what I've got this email that I got apologies day. Okay but we'll work this out. If we can but for the shortstop for the Nash over the Northern California's I WANNA point out that. The two people who just missed the cut our guys who are very popular now. Brandon Crawford and Marcus Simeon. They didn't make the cut for shortstop in a Nor CAL team Gapes choices were deployed to Lewinsky from the South Bay? Jimmy Rollins From the East Bay and Joe Cronin from the nineteen thirty senators got got some love here. so Who who is going to be starting shortstop agape what will it start with a pointing out that might get a little comes back from crawl on this match? He's he's GonNa be watching carefully here but Yeah this was too low for me All this talk. Gero is such a good all around baseball player and such an igniter at the top of the lineup. Here here it was too low just given the all around player that he was at that time and the numbers he was putting up for the rockies in a pretty friendly hitter environment. Okay Now we have The Hot Corner Third Base Third Base we George Brett with nineteen eighty royals Three ninety that year Eddie Mathews Nineteen fifty-three braves and Nolan our NADO. The twenty-seven Robbie's Again understanding that The Big Unit Nolan or not. Oh I think that George Brett Mattheus tremendous players hall of famers. But I think that if you're talking about ninety seven ninety eight the slider that comes from seems like the first base dugout. I've been in that box. That Guy Lefties don't slug him so I think that you look at what Nolan does against left. Handed pitching gets on base in slugs. And you're going to. You're not gonNA find a better third baseman. So Nolan took the start against the unit. Okay and if there's any way you can program Are not think he staging giants pitching. Welcome immensely I'll do my best. Okay gave up three choices at third base here that the fans voted Carney Lansford. Ken Committee and Stan Hat from the one thousand nine hundred ninety thirty eight cups. Henry thank you we. We went with We went with committee here and again. This is your kind of like Docs lineup. He's got some guys that had huge ears and maybe if it was going for the entire career he would have made different choices. I felt the same way With Committee he's just so tough you know there's their stories out there about him being sick on certain days during that magical season and him getting IV and trainers telling him not to go out on the field and play him ripping the IV out of his arm. Saying I'm playing and We needed a little toughness. And so he gets the nod at third base. All right We'll move to the outfield contract out. Let's go to catch your because that's the next one on the list So yes so catcher We have Gary Carter of the Nineteen eighty-four Expos Lance Harish thousand nine hundred tigers and Bob Moon of the nineteen eighty-eight. Angels with the Kid Gary Carter he's GonNa be The battery up for this entire series. A wonderful that's inside dope for gay. Your information near game yet. Okay The catcher the Catcher for the Northern California team We had Ernie Lombardi the schnauzers from the Nineteen. Thirty eight reds. Who was at the time considered these slowest athlete in Human History We also have by Stephen Vote. He was a great hitter though. Stephen Vote From two thousand fifteen as and Joe Ferguson from nineteen seventy nine dodgers a Guy. I rooted for as a kid growing up in La. I so who's GonNa Catch The Big Unit Game One. Yeah Henry that's GonNa be that's GonNa be Lombardi so Stephen Vote because you know we love the emotional leader that he is actually turned out to be a hard choice and only be open about Lombardi at all. I had to go back and research. But not in his best year that for eighteen weighted on base average I don't care how slow he is. He's in the line. Yeah and you know. He talked about that Weighted on base average a lot of back in nineteen thirty nine in the outfield There were nine outfielders. You made the team and I think even the southern California team would admit that the northern California team is pretty stacked here. But Hey if you wanted to kind of quickly. Rabble hoffy benign outfielders. Who will be on the team? And then ask Dave which three depict yeah so I off Ted Williams. Nineteen forty one. Red Sox your Poro. Six Twenty Grand Ninety four padres. You're hitting three ninety four Duke Snider from the fifty four Dodgers Christian Yelich on this past season. Twenty Nineteen Brewers Fred Lynn seventy nine red SOx Ralph kiner for the nineteen forty nine Pittsburgh pirates dusty Baker from the nineteen eighty dodgers George Foster from the seventy seven reds and bobby bonds from the seventy three giants. Dave alright going from left to right. You want me to do all three or just the fielder okay. Going from left to right Splendid SPLINTER Ted Williams in left Field Duke Snider in center field and pulling up a right field is Mr Padre Tony Gwynn. Okay and Let's let's get to the northern California list Is this is? This is a great list. Yoda Maggio Ricky Henderson. Barry Bonds Barry Bonds you came in third behind Rickman Dimaggio which was interesting Up here Frank Robinson. Let do dual who of a lot of you folks might not know but he He won two batting titles including nineteen twenty nine billion which is The year he is here. Willie McGee Aaron judge currently with the Yankees curt flood and Harry Heilmann From the nineteen twenty-three Tigers. So which three did you select? Y'All go from left to right here as well And just like dot pointed out earlier in the call. Wait to pass judgment until we talk about the D. H. Here that's an important. It's an important ricky. Ricky Henderson plays plays left field for US. And by the way like these weren't especially tough choices once we knew we had the D. H. Frank Robinson will play right and jolt. Joe Dimaggio will play center for us. Okay well that's a pretty. That's a pretty good outfield. Right there. we will move onto the designated hitter and your choices while the prices are pretty much anybody all right. That's it made the list so David who's your. I know you were a little back and forth on this The D. H. A. Against Randy is GONNA be mark. Maguire and I think there's a name that you haven't uttered yet Gabe who's going to be the D. H. For the nation of the Northern California James. Who WOULD THAT BE BERRY BERRY? Bonds is going to be the DA. What I think for a couple of years was was the The greatest seasons offensive seasons in major league history so so Very bonds gets an oddity. Okay now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA do the batting order now and it just funny. It's funny to me. Ueli the managers who they pick second to bat at such a modern thing you know these are not abundant and I joked with Gabe about that You know this. This is not the traditional get on base Bonham over get him in type of lineup. Night on either team So a day. Would you mind telling us what? You're batting? Order is going to be all right leading us off for for the southern California allstars. Jackie Robinson hitting in the two hole Ted Williams and I don't think Gabriel Shifted IN OUR VIRTUAL DISAPPEARANCE. Don't splendid splinter number three Eddie Murray and I like the switch-backs so you know when they WANNA Kinda match up. We could get Eddie on the left side to mark Maguire in cleanup nomar hidden in the five. The Duke Duke Snider hitting in the six Nolan Aeronautical hitting seven Tony gwynn which I don't think he's ever hit eighth in his entire life. Unfortunately so Tony Gwynn Junior Don't don't hold it against me. I'm hitting your father a so he's hitting a it gets the unit and Gary Carter the kids at night. Okay and got engaged Your team is going to be facing Don Drysdale so we know that whoever the number one pitcher Dr Hitter is he's going to get knocked on his but in the first pitch of this series. That's what bound rise. Dale did So what is your lineup? I feel pretty good about Ricki Henderson's confidence in that scenario. I feel like he's right. And you know what if you get hit? He's on first base. Ricky effort maybe third base third maybe third base very bonds it second. I liked docs call with Williams in the two hole That's Kinda scary up at the top Robinson and then Ted Williams Frank Robinson hits third for us then Willie stargell like I said that historic season Joe Dimaggio Hits Fifth Joe. Morgan comes in behind the Maggio. Then Ken Caminiti Troy to Lewinsky and Lombardia and the nine hole to round out okay and before we start analyzing the teams here Just two things first of all if you do have a question for any of the managers regarding these teams use the QNA button on zoom and The only question I have so far is where gave got his cap. So we'd like it to be a little more With a conversation the one thing we didn't do Or Hey if you could read vert is if you could read the list of the The pitchers that all the pitchers who made the team And then maybe gave could say who would like to bat or like Pitch Game Two and game three yes so I don Drysdale which is the game. One starter Walter Johnson from the nineteen thirteen senators. Jim Palmer from the Seventies Orioles. Rollie fingers from eighty. Brewers Trevor Hoffman from the ninety. Eight padres Bret Saberhagen eighty nine. Royals Stephen Strasburg from the seventeen nationals Garrett Cole from the Twenty Nineteen Astros Bob Lemon for the nineteen fifty two Indians in burp Levin from the seventy three twins. Okay Dave doody think WHO'S GONNA Fish Game? Two in game three in your mind game too. There are some tough ones. Obviously there's a lot of obsolete of great choices but I'm GonNa go with Walter Johnson and the strikeout numbers the big body Really impressive work load. And obviously we were just talking about one series. But he's going to start game two and game three is going to be. Jim Palmer and I think that I kinda toiled some guys that more Modern Day Garrett Cole being one but I think that I'll take the hundred You know sometime later and again before we get to Raleigh and Trevor Time. Okay and If you end up leading in game seven in the ninth inning This whole thing might end on a chance if you pick trevor. And how? He's not. That was funny when there'd be Sixty Thousand Ninety Eight playoff sixty thousand people screaming stomping their feet and as he came in with Hell's bells playing and then change. It was great though be for Houston maybe after a little a hundred from Garrett than Reagan on jet so there you go all right. The ten National League pitchers Randy Johnson is. GonNa Start Game One. We have Tom seaver from seventy one match Randy Johnson from the two thousand two D backs. You've Dennis Eckersley from the nineteen ninety-two as Eckersley was starter at one point. But this is a season where he was. I believe perfect or near perfect and saves one of his teammates. Dave Stewart from the ninety as on the team lefty Gomez one of the Great World Series pitchers ever nineteen thirty four Yankees Dave Righetti Also a starter and a reliever but in this case from the nineteen eighty six Yankees when I believe he was Still a starter reliever by C. Sobat from the two thousand seven Indians Tug McGraw from the Nineteen. Seventy two mets Mike Norris from the nineteen eighty as and John Wetland a closure of the nineteen ninety-three Yankees. So I gave after we see big unit game one. What do you think we're GONNA SEE IN GAME? Two and three organ at. We're going to see Tom. Seaver in In Game Two not GONNA go too deep into Tom. I feel like is numbers in his history for My third choice was C C Sabathia. And this one's probably going to be a little bit more controversial given all of the great pitchers on that list but I had a chance to play with C. C. Against him quite a bit but but with him in two thousand and eight so in that prime period two thousand seven two thousand eight. There wasn't a guy that wanted to ball in a meager moment. I mean this is a guy that thrived in the spotlight and put his teammates on his back. So this is very similar to the Ken Kennedy Discussion. We had earlier. You need that guy that that wants the ball and the biggest moment and drives in that situation never gets tired and CECE. Was that guy for me. Oh seven Oh eight. He was a beast and CICI gets on in game three okay. Great Well Bruce Jenkins Houston Mitchell. You've heard the teams that you're going to be managing and the way it's GonNa work is Bruce in Houston will manage the teams. As as the computer. Simulations go on they'll be making substitutions as I understand it because the fans voted in the thirty four guys It the one sort of non old school thing is that you guys are GonNa try to get as many of the thirty four guys in at some point in the series one way or the other. So the visitor. What do you think your team us? Grain Lineup pressure on me. Now to make the right Minnesota's scheme Dhaka's set me perfectly. My question for doc would be to to Some advice I need here lately gaming out a lead. We Bring Ozzy in for defense over. No more and the other thing is a nurse or Hoffman often. Who would you favor as the closer in among those two? Those are two great closers Houston Questions and I do think that No more never been defense for As shorts up obviously. But you don't get any better than the wizard so with the lead. Hopefully I no. Mark took his fourth at Bat. Ben here comes the wizard. Certainly an for me Kind of trevor. I've played with this guy that prepares like no other strike thrower Change IS IS LETHAL. And understand if these guys haven't seen trevor I just can't go outside of Trevor Hoffman. So that's my choice. That's a great question to ask Gabe as well. I mean the list of relievers on the you have for the ninth innings. Dennis Eckersley Dave Righetti John Wetland all great great relievers in their prime If you if you had your others would you like Bruce to close out games? We you know I'm GonNa go with ECK so I feel like learned from from nine hundred eighty and The whole run that they give you hit off. Him made him a better pitcher. And I'm I'm excited to have him closing out games in the night okay Do you have any questions for your your guys? No I guess it's sort of a question but even our Senate text and forth a little bit here of third base. I know it was a tough choice for you. Can kind of just walk through your decision making ongoing without Renato over over George Brett? Who had three ninety doctor while I think that certainly the whole body of work he had three ninety? And I know a lot of people that played for the royals Namely Buddy black who still one of his good friends and no-one consistently hit the ball harder than George Brett. And there's crazy stories about George. I got a quick story about George Brett where one Dan Kansas City George told his teammates that it was probably one hundred and thirty on the turf and he told his teammates in the spirit of what gave us documentary about. Gamers that I'm not going to have a drink of water the entire game. I'm going to be the first one on the field. I went into the dugout every single inning. So after we get this win that beer is gonNA taste so good so sure enough. Every game he probably throughout three. If that game the royals win I one on. I went back in the dugout and sure enough. He was pretty much to hydrated but got it through. The game led the team to win Had that cold beer but I think again randy just neutralize the lefty so you really tough to get hits let alone slug get on base and George you know even in that season where you have to be ninety. He I think he opium seven. Sixty that you're against the left-handed pitcher so and that's not facing a unit. So I think that you know the defense and also you look at Nolan in that year. I think he had a thirteen left yourself. You know. That's a big Delta right there so I I just like Nolan and Georgia. Being there against saver game I had a question I just. I just wanted to know what it was like for you to sit down with a piece of paper a computer. Whatever it is you wrote your lineups with an wrote down. The names Dimaggio Henderson bonds and Robinson. I think the most fun I was going back and digging into Ricky's Ricky's best year He just he had a knack for getting on base. Obviously I I had so much fun. Writing his name at the top of the lineup. Because of all the all the things that he can do independent him getting on base and the freedom and the flexibility that he might give Bruce as he managed our club Knob and I had a lot of fun thinking about that. Outfield question was who have in the outfield. Right was going to be bygones. or bonds at the physician did a lot of work and asked a lot of questions about the defensive capabilities of each guy and came away. Feeling pretty good about our out our outfield as a defensive unit and obviously that top four hitters in the lineup five hitters in the lineup are pretty impressive. Yeah and you know it's it's very bonds from two thousand one and I having covered him I I think I can. I can say that by that point. He wasn't the outfielder that he was. You know say In nineteen when we first came up and almost those great pirate teams of Nineteen Ninety two and three I got we have some questions from the fans and I have one that is really a good question for both of you and if I could find it at it was But basically the question was How much that you guys use advanced analytics to pick your teams Maybe David if you WANNA START WITH ALAN I. I'd say you know it's hard for me to obviously. You can't argue Ted Williams and and Duke Snider but I think that just kind of looking at you know some advanced analytics and I think that you know for example. Tony Gwynn was one for eleven. I think against Against Randy Johnson. But for me. It's kind of looking forward and still betting the fact that He could hit electric. He has it lefties That's why he's in the lineup. Ozzy's Tony Grid. But there was a little bit. I kind of if you look at the right handed lineup against Tom. Seaver I'll give Gabe in left field over the splendid splinter who's going to de age and so there's a little bit of metrics in understanding who can cover more ground a little bit on the margins but You know Houston asked the question earlier about with Ozzy versus no more. Those are metrics Last thing is to piggyback on Gabes. Kind of one thing. That was fun for me. Was Looking at the middle for game to potentially as Ozzie Smith and Jack in the Middle Plan together that that's something that I wish I could go back in time. Put those two in the middle of the diamond out. Gabe how deep dive into the numbers? Nah Not I'm just question. It's a fun one to talk about. Because my my inclination is to die pretty deeply but for this exercise I took a surface level day dig and and then just got really invested in the fun of it. You know the the hall of famers that we're talking about the players that Dave and I played against that are on this list. It was just a lot of fun and I really wanted to to enjoy it. I mean I think the platoon split thing is is fun and certainly like when when Dave and I exchanged lineups it was nice to be able to kind of try to match up and think a little bit more deeply about it but at the same time this exercise is built for enjoyment fund fans fans having fun and thinking along with us and then ultimately like there were so many good decisions that it was hard to make a bad one. Okay Here's a question here that's GonNa be like asking you to pick your favorite child First of all the first question this question about analytics was from Richard Workday This question is from somebody named Gaylon and I'll start with you gave you have to pick. Who is your favorite player in your starting lineup? Y Yeah I mean I'll probably just go with with Caminada here I. This is a guy that I played with. I would play together in Texas in the early. Two thousands watched him play as I was kind of coming of age and as a professional baseball player and he was so fierce like. That's the word out. Used to describe them. Sure Daca tell you you looking can candidate. He's is and he it's intimidating and this is a guy that slash. The leather had a canon played. Her had pop knew the game very well and supported his teammates so just from a strict favorite perspective. I'll go with candy. I think for me it. It's pretty easy when This man not only play the game with a passion chip on his shoulder. Responsibility was bigger than the game as far as understanding his legacy. So Jackie Robinson. Okay and Dave. There was a question that says sort of somewhat related And I don't have the person who asked at the moment but why did you pick Jackie Robinson to lead off over Tony Gwynn? Well I think that in this situation in this first game I felt that he had a better chance to get on base versus a unit And hopefully we'll get the unit after their an awfully. Tony went out to face a unit only twice. And I'll take my chances with Jackie face. No big left three times. Okay Yeah Tony will move up the lineup against seaver okay. The question was from Ed. Here's a good question for both of us from Brian How do you prepare for something like this with different styles and different generations as Clayton? Kershaw said last night I believe that was on dodgers zoom. It's impossible to prove who is better So how do you wrap your brain around Cross generations? I know an easy answer. Is that war Is A STATISTIC. That does account for different eras but aside from kind of looking at war Gave how how do you? Kinda like decide Which which which generation to pick from in the teams or did you just sort of you know kind of a number that in just go with the years I saw. I mean I think the first thing that do is we we ask ourselves about our own experience and what we witnessed personally right so I was thinking about docs side of things and and Christian Yelich over the course of the last couple of years as good as any baseball player particularly against right handed. Pitching that that I've I've seen or or study And then you go back a little bit further and we talk about a guy like Barry Bonds If you you pay attention to what he accomplished in a three four five year stretch. You know it's it's up there with with the greatest of all time with Mike Trout right now. By way of example maybe talking about the greatest player that ever lived and then when when you have to go back and learn about a player like Ida with with Lombardi. It's really much more about just laying out the numbers on an analyzing those numbers relative to modern day players. So yeah I mean. I think it's this is the fun part about the exercise trying to balance what you see you on paper witness with your own eyes and I think that for me and I know that last night we had a we had a call and With with a bunch of dodger fans and I think that with Clayton. I think that we heard this many times with the great. And you're talking. You know literally less than in across the across all industries less than a hundred people one hundred athletes that are called potentially in a conversation of the greatest of all time in their respective sports. So I think that those people most athletes don't like that conversation because you're talking about them but I think all of us and it's ninety nine point nine to the to the end as fans of the game it bridges stories generations. And that's the only way we can kind of in its banter back and forth so for me. I love to figure out who the best baseball players who the best pitcher is who the best quarterback of all time do rings matter all that stuff. That's part about being a sports fan so I do think that when I have talked to the greatest of all time whether you're talking about Michael Brown Koby Curse Sandy. They don't like that conversation to be quite which is kind of interesting. Okay well We are sort of running out of time here so I don't we get some last words here from Let's let's start with the. Hey Do you have any any last words about this whole thing now? I just gave you guys doing this taking the time out. You know it's fun exercise. Something that makes everyone sorta thank in baseball into the full little bit as we wait here to see if we're going to see real baseball this summer Just one one last question has a good one here Sort off what. They just stay engaged. We're just talking about which one of these guys on your lineup. Would you WANNA see? Today's game is there anybody in particular you were sick gave you? WanNa go first. Sure I mean Dimaggio for me right I I would love to see him. Run around said Centerfield and obviously like with the hitting streak just Kinda love. You can't say that it would happen in this kind of modern day alternate universe. But I'd love to see if it would. It's always interesting because players are now And this is not really up for debate. Bigger faster stronger. More athletic twitch your have more technology more tools at their fingertips. It would be really fascinating to watch a guy like Jordan Macho played in the fifties. Come throw throw his hat in the ring in today's environment. See how how he fared. I think for me. It's it's Ted Williams I do WanNa see that seed in right center. Field at Fenway Park. See how close. He can get her if he'd really did. Hit that. Dang seat but you know he's one of the best of all time obviously so I'd love to see him. Modern okay Can you guys hear me? I'm a I'm getting a little bit of a message saying that. My Internet is unstable. Sort of like you can hear me. Okay I The interesting thing to me and that question is I would. Who would like to be the one who you know? Jackie Robinson comes back to life. Ted Williams comes back to life and you guys have to tell them that Well you know you you really can't slide. Pass the bag and if you go after the second baseman or shortstop you're going to be out and it'll be a double play I I wouldn't WanNa be the one to have to tell those guys that I don't want gay bath. The I WANNA be in the room when gave tells Kennedy. He can't do that all right. Hey I'm sorry. Were there any other questions that you saw from the fans that you thought no that was it? That was an excellent. It's just a great question to ask because that's to be talked about you know we're watching the last dance and we were watching the last dance. In everyone's arguing Jordan's ninety six bowls beat the seventeen warriors and the eighty six outfits and all that stuff so I think it happens in every sport is David mentioned earlier. Who's the greatest quarterback of all time this and that and you know it's fascinating to imagine these guys playing in today's ever with the you know the on-base style from the slugging velocity? We see nowadays so a question there by. I don't know who I'd look it up but now news. Great question asked who who else your thought. The last dance was about Baryshnikov. Didn't watch it okay. Well Anyway Right I Houston Mitchell. Any last words. I just WanNa thank Dave and gave for doing this a lot and Dave for set me up so beautifully and You know if I blow this. I'm sure my newsletter readers will be all over me and feel free to send me an email telling me what a horrible manager I am then and but thanks a lot for for Senate opt and Bruce. Well I WANNA thank you for making my job. Easy at my lineup. And his are exactly the same now. One I drew up this morning. Anna final. I'd had a toast to the two thousand four Red Sox. One of the greatest stories ever told in both of these guys were part of that team. Yeah that absolutely. I want to point out that that will two things gave first of all has my name on the on his Zoom Window. That was only if you're wondering that was because I up sending him my link because he was having a little trouble getting in also WANNA point if you look at Games lineup It's very it's balanced it's You know what make no managers like to do? I mean it goes right. Left right. Left right left switch right right. So Dave you're GONNA have a little bit of trouble doing You know. Fortunately we don't have the three a battery minimum rule for the pitchers you can. You could swap guys out to your Heart's content. I I heard rumor that you like to do that sometimes but anyway. I want to thank all of you and especially the managers and just want to say to the fans who are on here and he'll be listening to this on podcast whatnot. I can absolutely assure you that Gabe Kaplan and Dave Roberts were really into this and there was some sort of regular season gamesmanship going on in here that I might write about at some point and They're you know it's good to know that both teams are in the hands of people who managers who are just if they get into something if they're asked to do something they don't do it. Half blanked you know they? They are really into it. So thank you guys and going to thank everybody from joining the zoom and At Bruce One. When are we going to win? The game is going to be played. May Twenty Six. We're GONNA play the whole best to seven one night. The Games do go pretty quickly so it like Thanksgiving. Be Settling in for four hours. Okay WanNa thank my cohort haircuts. Theo and Hope everybody here has a good afternoon. Guys thanks outward. Good Luck Houston. Thank you for listening to this special zoom featuring managers Dave Roberts of the dodgers and Gay Kappler giants Bruce Jenkins and Houston. Mitchell will simulate this world series on May Twenty Six watch out for the results in the San Francisco Chronicle in Los Angeles Times as plus is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle support as plus and all of the chronicles journalism by signing up for Chronicle membership at SF chronicle dot com slash pot.

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Gabe Kapler on Canceling Tuesday's Workout

Giants Splash

10:22 min | 1 year ago

Gabe Kapler on Canceling Tuesday's Workout

"Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby, carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Here's a cure, extra spicy and New San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me Soleil how? Justin Phillips you can subscribe to extra spicy now on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi Everyone, this is John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle with the latest giant splash podcast. We've got big news. The giants have halted their workouts at Oracle. Park suspended them pending results, of Covid nineteen tests that were conducted over the weekend. Several reporters spoke with the manager gave Kappler in zoom interview, and we wanted to share his thoughts on what this does for the team's preparation for a season that may or may not be played. We're providing Kappler's answers to questions about what's next and we'll start with his opening. Comment right after the. Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby, carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Here's a cure. Extra Spicy and New San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me, so Lejla and the Justin Phillips Look I. Thought I was going to have to go defend ranch wholeheartedly right now, but. I see what's happening, I'll chill. I'll be cool. Leave it for next time. You'll hear that and more slander every week. Subscribe to extra spicy now on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. For jumping on a keep keep this brief since I know you guys already have the bulk of the information, but as you know, we decided to postpone, today's worked out. Some players and pitchers in particular were able to get. A light recovery worked out in this morning. and re we do expect results at some point. testing results at some point today of from. You know in this will help us clear things up. in assuming that we're all clear. We'll pick this back up tomorrow. On our regular schedule on today's workout will just. Be handled tomorrow, and we. We really don't believe this is. GonNa hurt. Our camp or development. Just miss a day and. Nice mental blow for our players. I feel as confident today as as I did yesterday. under I understand during a long way to guard. Our Club does as well. Our players and staff included in that. I still have confidence your. I think more than anything I just maintain. The Uh for everybody. That's working really hard to get our chance. Of running, but also across the week. And all the bugs that are working harder, but Their players decision. How successes nobody nobody at the city easy and everybody's is invested, they can. Because we're dealing with with so many players. Different in varying levels of comfort or his comfort and the we. We say very close contact with our players. You know most of the anxiety is is just around Gobert in general. But I, don't they just is related anyway. Anything other than what society in general. I think the best way that expresses. that Saturday's results. The results. Saturday's tests are back. We're expecting them to be back. At some point today with with big taught. In Our We! Don't have specific number separated out. That we don't have results back from our test Saturday. A. That's why we made the decision. Look I think we're? GonNa be. Getting information. Throughout every day that helps us make more informed decisions on whenever we can I I would like us to be able to to save flexible nimble, so we can make the best decisions for that day for the group. At the same time I think whenever we can be decisive and halvard players Get. Get prepared for the next day. They WANNA dot as well and in this particular case. I think we had the ability. To recognize it, we we were GONNA say development and our champ wasn't gonNA separate anyway by being decision on behalf of our group. So what we might do different. Meet maybe nothing, but by definitely is stay flexible. Have as much information as awesome. Make the best. Out of the group. For like acknowledged that trust in communication. Is certainly important and I guess from a standpoint. Major League Baseball clubs are to make adjustments along the way. I really do believe that this is not. This is an easy problem to solve and. Anything polity. Issues are. A lot of things that we don't know and. Within that I think that. From a trust perfect is. As as an industry. Going to we're going to. Share Information Y-. And use that information to make good decisions and again like this is worth three days into our I can't. Really better. Four days from out that we are now because we're going to have more rationing. So I trust that things are gonNA. Get better run more smoothly and obviously that's true for four to be, but also. We we have to be really focused on airing for for tomorrow on. We want to get this today's schedule. Executed tomorrow and you know we're. We're looking for results back today were we gotten assurance from the League that we can expect? It will look for. Tomorrow the results from Monday's mark. We think that. A mental recovery day after three days of going fairly hard. There's a benefit to that. we also think that the physical recovery daters of benefit to that that you guys know that are south isn't going pretty hard. Weird. There's many staff members of the now. You know very spread out and getting a little bit of a recovery as well and our schedule. Is Transfer tomorrow tomorrow, so you know what we like to be able to. Utilize every day on the calendar before opening day sure would be probably building building some type of recovery during this anchored between now and opening Los Angeles. We, we definitely would and what we might do to adjust to hear that it doesn't hurt our camping. Is a time down the road. Where would've made in recovery will just use that for more intense workout. I generally feel optimistic. I share the concerns of. People in the country right now. It's kind of a scary and uncertain time. And the same time I remain optimistic that we get together. After working on a six yard aid, I know this should be as a a long list of of tasks that he's trying to complete on daily basis. Is Jobs obviously especially challenging because you know, he's managing those towns getting ready for travel. The Disney hotel is getting ready for travel in the season. He's always responding to requests, so yeah, we have A. We have a lot of understanding the being with Brad is. Dealing with. Our entire staff were. Update ever experienced. Just, thinking about this acted, there's two houses, not one to think about with with our players and our and the way. Our Locker Room is that we have staff longer than are all. Right off of our officers, and then what was once for offices now another face for for south lockers and we've got A. House and visitors allows as well. You're as we have a lot of places and faces the manage and are doubtless devoted to make sure that goes well. Yeah, we're definitely. Thanks for joining us on the giants Splash podcast Henry showman and I will provide more podcasts as we continue this journey through these uncertain times with a baseball season scheduled to begin July twenty third. Giants. Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. So long everybody. The giants splash is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast. Producers King, Kaufman and Alan Johnston the theme. Song batter up was written and performed by Lauren, gold and rate East Louis. Support. The splash and all of our great journalism by signing up for a chronicle membership at SAF chronicle dot com slash pod.

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Weekend Observations

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Weekend Observations

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. These baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Monday, April purse, two thousand nineteen BUSTER only our producer most days almost every day is Josh macrey Josh in the name of April Fool's day. And I'm not gonna play an April Fool's day prank on you. But I think kind of along those lines. I gotta ask you after these first days of the two thousand nine thousand nine season. What's more likely near mind? The world champion Red Sox. Your world champion Red Sox a staffy array of seven thirty six in the same series. We'd seen two guys at four homers and four games that of course, nationally MVP Christian yelich, Paul Goldschmidt of the cardinals. And he think back to where we were like on February twentieth. And now. Just a little bit more than a month later MVP chance for Bryce Harper in Philadelphia in March. I think about that. I think that's the most likely just because it was never completely out of the question for him to come in the city on fire in the first series and have the entire city. Philadelphia fall in love with him. I'd say that's the most likely second most likely as two guys to MVP candidates hitting four home runs in this series. It's spectacular. Yes. Is it a once in a lifetime thing? No. The least likely has to be the struggles of the Red Sox starters. That's ridiculous. What you say? What did you say that we are? It was seven hundred something right? That's what you meant. No man, heaven thirty six getting lit up Alex Cora answering questions about the preparation in spring training. We'll get to that. We'll be hearing from Bryce Harper today and his extensive interview that he did with our Mathis curtian on Sunday at citizens Bank park. We've got a weekly cap talk and quizzed with Todd Radim. Freddy Freeman has some really interesting observations about young star Ronald Kuni junior. But let's get to some notes of the day. And the game of the day is enter Bogart's. The Red Sox is a contract extension are Jeff passan confirmed initially that they had an agreement, and according to Jeff the Red Sox tacking on six years one hundred twenty million dollars. This extension is a surprise. And we'll explain why some of the games on Sunday you member. I was absolutely talking all the time about Yankees Ebersol schedule. Yankees gets play. The Orioles so much six of their first nine games thirteen. I fifty well. You know what over the weekend? The Orioles did some damage. To to swing in a high fly ball left field. He got a lot of it back. It goes and policy. God read not Nunez, a three run home run in the first and the Orioles grab a three nothing lead. Jim hunter and one zero five point seven the fan. The ORs win the game seventy five just play that clip again because they want you to listen to the crowd in the background. I think you could paraphrase like a thought balloon and just put three letters in their w Tf. What do you think it's you to swing in a high fly ball in left field? They got a lot of it back. It goes and policy. God read not to noon news, a three. Oh, man. Yeah. The. We're losing the Orioles again. Anyway, you know, there's a lot of talking to York about that today. Chris back of the Padres was great in his major league debut on Sunday five innings one run seven strikeouts. Manny Machado pitch and again high game into seven one out pieces loaded Dyson set. First pitch Grandpa's fully hit shortstop Crawford. Charging in to second for one onto I not in time. But Chatto beats it out the hustled all the way to first base in the Padres. Take a two to one lead after ninety seven point three the fan. San Diego wins the game three to one the dodgers. It's so much damage over the weekend against the Diamondbacks. Staff including ex diamondback AJ Pollock second one out. Pollock frantic. Only this side war. Four. Bellinger. He will score and Arriva had third. Beijing. It wasn't hit real hard perfectly place. The dodgers have tied at seven. Charley Steiner AM five seventy LA sports. The dodgers win that game. Eight two seven the Phillies are the only undefeated team in baseball. They completed a sweep with help from. Yup. Bryce harper. Right field. It's our in fly home. Marquette will turn he'll watch. It's gone. That one a mile high to right field his hitter friendly ballpark, Bryce Harper. His second of the year second and has many days at its four one the legend. Boop shabby on ESPN radio with that call. Harper course had that four hundred sixty five foot shot on Saturday follows it up with that monster moonshot on Sunday, the Phillies win is mentioned. But the conversation after the game was about Reese Hoskins getting pitched inside. And then getting hit late in the game. It led to an injection of Atlanta pitcher and gate Kappler Phillies manager, he was angry. Really be awful involves go underneath Reese hostage chin. Really bugs me because it has injury last year. Well, certainly, you know, coming off the fact that he he got hit last year for sure. But more importantly, he's one of our leaders. He is in many ways, the heartbeat of our club. And it really bothers me when that happens. And I think this was a case of the Phillies manager protecting his player. It was so cold last night it probably wind chill factor in the mid thirties. Pitchers on both sides were struggling to command the ball. I don't think that the pitcher for the Braves throughout Amman purpose. I think this is game just letting Reese Hoskins. No, you're our guy. The day. Then a game of the day had to be the brewers cardinals. That series finales, Christian yelich, Paul Goldschmidt, putting on an absolute show yellow Chit home in each of the first three games, and he came to the plate in the bottom of the first inning and the pitch swinging. Three. Four Christian yelich. Four in a row that reference from Bob euchre? The fact that yelich homers in each of the brewers. I four games the call on six twenty WTMJ. Look Josh in the past. I've always deferred to you on the Bob euchre call you want to jump in here. It was Robert M F euchre. That's right BUSTER. Okay. Very nice. I mentioned Paul Goldschmidt had himself a nice weekend to three homers on Saturday. This is what he did on Sunday. Goldsmith does it again left center? Goldsmith number four, Paul Goldschmidt had punched out his first couple of eight B's got some fastballs up in the zone and just wasn't able to get to this time and Goldschmidt is not missing. Yeah. That was damaged Laughlin. Brad Thompson on the cardinals television network. The brewers are trailing bottom of the ninth inning. They had a couple of runners on base, Jordan Hicks. The cardinals. Closer hard throws in the game. Christian yelich at the plate to deliver. Here. It is. Yelling. The score the winning. He's. Growers beaten, Saint Louis. Do you believe that one? Oh. Have you ever heard? Bob euchre that excited. We've heard his calls for years. Just I I've never heard him that excited. What about you? It's close BUSTER. Yeah. But I I actually thought he was going to swear there at the end he goes holy. Great Paul Robert M F good job. He did a great job with that Christian yelich spoke with Fox Sports Wisconsin about the day. Chris. Pattern as much as you said. This is a new season a new team. Feeling like last year for you. He's got done early hidden. And we just did it at the whole game. How did that ninth-inning come together? Christian the pinch hits from Ben Campbell. And then low doing what he does in that infield single set aside decided up for you. Grit. Just get on this grist. I've talked to face and Benghazi. So that double and unloaded his thing. And we're put out historic surfer for you. Chris how much fun are you having at the start of the season and to take three out of the four. Here's. Here's here's force. You always want to get started on a good note. There are great team. We notice whole yours can be battle. And we did a great job. And I've got a question of history about Christian yelich. Let's get to it. Rejoice love. It's TIMMY tied. It this great game. Or what with tin kurkin on baseball tonight. And Tim coaching covers baseball for ESPN and constantly find myself asking this question, Tim, where the heck are you? Well, I'm in Atlanta. I did the game in Texas yesterday cubs. Rangers eleven to ten well over three hours. We barely made our flight, but we got out last night. And I got to my hotel room about two o'clock in the morning, but that's better than trying to travel at six in the morning on the day of game. So we'll tonight we'll do the Braves game against the cubs. And I'm very excited. Well, naturally, we always have our questions after the first days of the season. Yeah. That that is usually a question early in the year because you have very small sample size of results, and we'll start with this Christian yelich. He won the MVP last year. And this year is twenty seven years old and so far Tim four homers, six walks one strikeout. He's unbelievable gets the walk off game winning two run double on Sunday. And I found myself this morning asking this question is the Christian yelich trade? Does that have a chance to go down in history alongside Frank Robinson? And Lou Brock trades is one of the most one-sided deals in history. What do you think? Well, a little early for that. But it's ridiculous. How good he has been in you. You know BUSTER from CNN this spring. He barreled it so many times that Craig counsel would take him out after to advance this pre-trading game because you can't hit it any harder than he hit it his first to advance. And in order to keep that wonderful momentum going he would just say I'm going to give him these two at bats. He's gonna hit the ball as hard as any man alive for these two at bats. We're going to get him out. We'll play him again tomorrow. That's how good he has been this spring. Travis Shaw told me again this spring. I've never played with anyone that puts bat ball better than Christian yelich. And boy has he gotten off to an amazing start and what a deal this has been so far for the brewers yet. The deal went down. I heard from executives with other teams thought it was a bad deal for the Marlins at that time in a great deal for the brewers. And that was before that incredible second half year last year three sixty seven average four forty nine on base seven seven slugging percentage. Twenty five homers and sixty five games. He's off to this. Great start. What the heck happened in midseason with Christian yelich St. think. Well, I'm not sure because he started to hit the ball with tremendous power. And this is what we'd seen before from him. Buster can always put bat to ball. He can always hit a line drive somewhere. But now he starts to get ball up in the air, and he starts hitting new Opie s well over a thousand the second half of the season. And I think it's just a match ration- of a young hitter. And we've seen it a million times George Brett used to hit line drives the opposite field so to Raphael Palmeiro, and then well, that example, maybe then they started to change things started to pull the ball. And this is what Christian yelich started to do was hit it with a thority all over the field. And now, you simply cannot make a mistake with him. Otherwise, he's going to crush you somehow in his first year in the big leagues. Four homers and sixty two games than the next year two thousand fourteen nine homers, then he had seven homers in two thousand fifteen and I remember. We're having a conversation with them in two thousand and sixteen be in that spring training. And I said to him you know, what what a what she swing? I really think that if you ever got into a hitters park. You could be a guy who could hit fifteen home runs, and Tim, I swear to you. He looked at me and goes no way like he's perception of himself at that time was he was never going to be guy who could hit twenty homers. Now, he's hitting twenty homers and a half app. It's go ahead, as you know, BUSTER some radio guy in Miami said he would eat crow if Christian yelich ever hit twenty homers in a season. And then when he did actually hit twenty overs in the season, the talk shows eight accrue, like a real crow, and and yell and said, it was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life. I told him you don't have to do this. But the guy did it anyway because nobody saw this coming with this kind of power. Now, we should be surprised by. Nothing that this guy does because the power has joined this perfect swing that he has right now. So Josh, Tim would not buy into my hyperbole comparing this to the Frank Robinson. Lou rides is one of the most one-sided deals in history. Would you agree with me or Tim, Tim? Yeah. You say Tim doesn't buy into your Berber league. Neither boobs. Neither does Carl. Neither does Keith. Neither did Dave. Neither Jess neither do I. See you guys are wrong. And when history shows that I'm right? I'll be able to say I was I I certainly would be the first to if I had predicted before the season Tim that the Orioles would take two or three from the Yankees in Yankee state 'cause I you know, you and I talked last week, and you hate the strength of schedule stuff. But you actually bought into the fact that you know, what the Yankees get to play. The Orioles a lot six of the first nine games thirteen to the first fifty. Yeah, they're going to kill the Orioles. The Orioles one two or three Tim explain that. I can't BUSTER which is why baseball is the best game. And always will be because it cannot be explained. It cannot be predicted this this makes me laugh out loud. That all of our game today is trying to predict a projection where this guy where this player where this team is going next when we have no idea what's going to happen today. That's the best part about it. I saw that orient. Lineup. I did opening day in New York. And I looked and I said how are they gonna win fifty games with this team? How can that happen? And then they beat the achey two out of three. This is this could not happen in basketball. There's simply no way that a bad team goes into Chicago Stadium. George during Jordan's prime and beats the bulls once once a bad team on the home court and Orioles came in and beat them two out of three. It was so amazing. But this is why baseball is so great. We're one weekend into this season, and our old friend, Alex Cora manager of the Red Sox already answering questions. Not only about the Red Sox staff, which has a an era of seven point three six starters at thirteen point two. He's also answering questions about the preparation because as you know, the Red Sox as they did in two thousand eighteen they pulled back the reigns. Aware of the pitchers workload Chris sale, David price. Others didn't get a lot of work in in spring training. Because. They're preparing for the long season. What do you make of the Red Sox? So for well, that's the first time since Alex Cora became the manager of the Red Sox that I saw him on truly on the defensive yesterday. And those comments about we'll just look how it worked last year. Nobody said anything about this last year. First off he's a hundred percent, right. But this is also the beauty of baseball's. The defending champs of given up eleven homers in their first four games like this. And there's no explanation for it. No explanation for Chris sale. Getting hit that hard. But I'm with Alex Cora on this. Stay the course, it's only four games. You can't worry too much about this early stuff. But it's the first time I've ever seen even a little bit of defensive nature from Alex Cora because of the beatings taken at his team's taken on this first road trip of the season, which is brutal in itself. They don't play a home game till April the ninth. Are you is curious about Chris tales next starred as I am. Yeah. Look BUSTER, they told us all spring, and I believe him this is one of my real failings as a reporter is they tell me he's completely healthy. But that did not look like Chris sale on opening day. That guy got pounded. And he's one of the great April pitchers you've ever seen. He comes out of the box flying every year and that did not happen. So you need to check. The velocity you need to check the production the next time out. And if you don't see it, maybe then you start to say, do we really have this right in spring training was he really completely healthy in that shoulder? Some Red Sox news that broken Sunday night Zander Bogart's, six years one hundred twenty million dollars in an extension on top of twelve million. This is a shocker to me because Andrew Bogart's is represented by agent, Scott bores and. Look, scott. We talked to in spring training about how it looked like Scott was going to have all the primary clients in free agency next. Fall Garrett Cole perhaps JD Martinez. It was an opt out Zander Bogart's because Scott, historically, as you know takes his clients into free agency. It doesn't always happen saw with Jared Weaver. I got to believe that this was perhaps a Jared Weaver situation. Where Scott's advice to Sander Bogart's, my guess is. I wasn't in the room. Was you know, what let's wait for free agencies. Inter Bogart's saying I'm happy I want the money and like a lot of players concerned about the uncertainty of free agency. What do you think? Right. And again, this is not the same. But it's a Stephen Strasburg situation. He wanted no part of free agency with the nationals. You went Scott and said, let's get this done. I want to stay here. And I don't want to go out there and be the center of attention in free agency. And this is before the free agent market. Completely changed. So I think we should get more and more used to this a young player saying give me the money. I'll take it BUSTER. It's a hundred and twenty million dollars. How could a young player not jump at that these days, especially with the way free agency is, but when it's a Scott client. It's it does raise eyebrows because that's not his MO. But maybe maybe that's changing. Now, I don't think Alex spirit ever problem with me relating this conversation. But he, of course, our friend from the Boston Globe. I asked him last week about some of the thinking behind the Red Sox decisions. And he said, he he his sense is that the Red Sox front office remembers clearly the inner chaos clubhouse chaos that ensued. After the John Lester negotiations didn't go well in the spring of two thousand fourteen and they wanted to bypass that. They want the players to know that they want to invest in some players at least with all these guys you are nearing free agency. So Chris sale get's a contract. Zander Bogart's gets gets a contract. And we'll see if somebody else along the way gets it. But at least the Red Sox players know the ownership is trying to keep this team together. Tim, I I saw an unbelievable scene over the weekend in Philadelphia. On Sunday night. You probably were on a plane, but in the ninth inning of the game on Sunday on March thirty first Phillies fans chanting MVP for Bryce Harper. What a guest. Well, look at lost in all the Bryce Harper three and a half months to sign three hundred and thirty million biggest contract ever. What's he doing? Is. He is a really good middle of the order hitter in the big leagues. And precisely what the Phillies need. He's also one of the great March April hitters we've ever seen. I think that's forty three homers now in his career March and April he crushes it early like Chris sale usually crushes it early. And it doesn't take much in Philadelphia to get people excited, but you add all those guys to that team. And then you add Bryce Harper. And then you go three and owned the first weekend. And is first Homer goes four hundred sixty five feet. This is no surprise to me that Philly fans are jacked about this. Because that's an all the time. I spent Clearwater. This ring BUSTER not one step. Could I take without somebody in the ballpark saying tell? Us. We're gonna get him today. Well, they got him. He's produced and this is what's happening. Well, they must have not have believe me because they had to ask you that question. I got that same question when I went through there. So they weren't satisfied with my answer and went to the one that Kim, I gotta tell you. I never would have guessed that one baseball player would have this sort of impact in on the box office the way that Bryce is maybe in the NBA where LeBron James or some superstar changes hands last year, the Phillies, drew two point two million fans just in talking with Billy's people over the weekend. And they had sellouts in each of the first games, including the brutal cold on Sunday night. They want might wind up drawing three and a half to three point six million people. That's unbelievable jump in one year. Basically around one player. What do you think? Well, he's got great charisma BUSTER, there's no way around that. I mean, you don't have to like him and I happen to like him. And I happened that. Inky is really good for the game that he has some character, and he has some competitiveness, and he has some look we're gonna win today. Kind of thing about him. But that that translates really well to Philadelphia tough place like that tough guy walks in and says follow me now trying to you know, he didn't say it. But said it before let's start printing World Series tickets World Series or bust. That's what the Phillies need, and they respond to someone a tough guy who's got character. And that's what Bryce Harper has. I feel like any high profile free agent in any sport. If they join a new team, she call Bryce Harper and say, hey, what did you do when you went to Philadelphia Tim because I've never seen a player work as hard as he has to ingratiate himself to fans. You know, the first day when he unanswered it not taking ROY Halliday's number thirty four the Philly fanatic, shoes the other day Instagram posts, saying he longs to party paraphrasing long's, the party like. Nick foles, like chase utley champions the bow that he takes now when he runs out to right field, man. He's working hard at connecting with the fans. Right. And BUSTER also lost a little bit. I know he didn't run hard to first base on every play with the nationals, and that's just unacceptable, but to not acknowledge how that guy shows up every day ready to tear your throat out. If you didn't wreck you being general you didn't recognize that in his six years of Washington, then you just weren't watching. This guy really wants to beat you on a daily basis, and it goes back to when he's in junior. College is a high school junior and people are screaming at him from the other team. And he said, I'll show you. That's what he does. Really? Well, and that's what he's doing to people right now. I'll show you. I was worth at three hundred and thirty million. All right. The cubs game that you saw on Sunday ended this way give. Listen. Droop. In the pitch and attended guard gets away couldn't winning. Henry who's walking up living the ten acre? How many infielders you have? You may peace inch for a while Pitt all that claiming and stroke bounces picks kits by contrast, and it's inevitable miracle. Comeback win for the Rachel's hall of Famer Eric new Dell with that call one of five point three the fan and Tim cook here it's one weekend at small sample size. But I felt like you Darvish small sample size on Saturday. That's a five alarm fire. If you're the Chicago Cubs to see him, go out in his first start in walk seven guys in tuned two-thirds innings. That's for me. What about for you? Those were too by the way, really encouraging wins for the Rangers to come back and win the way they did Saturday and Sunday, they were also two very discouraging losses for the cubs. I they walked twelve guys on Saturday and Darvish was he didn't miss by a mile on every pitch they squeezed a little bit. But seven walks in two and two thirds innings ten batters into the game before anyone put a ball in play that was really bad and for the series. The cubs walked twenty guys in three games yesterday. They blew a four run lead. And then they blew a three run lead. And ended up losing that game. I picked the cubs to win the division. I'm sticking with. I think they're going to the playoffs. But I must say three games in. I've looked at that team and said, oh, what is going on here? And so no doubt in that. Cub bullpen, but they're gonna have to start throw a few more strikes here if. This is going to start to go in the right direction. And it jumped out at me that catcher Wilson controllers pretty drek in talking about Darvish on Saturday talking about how motion he was during the course of the game you, and I've talked about in the past how he tends to be someone who puts pressure on himself and for Wilson controllers to say that out loud that feels like a situation where year two with Darvish on the cubs. They're like, okay, let's acknowledge obvious, and let's work on this. What do you think you talk about? You know, we're gonna watch Chris sales next start. How about you Darvish his next start? I mean, what do you think he's gonna do pressure wise on himself? And maybe maybe all that we heard about when the pressure gets really big. He's not as big as he should be all I think we're going to see is next start will be fascinating after one that you just look at shake your head and go my goodness. Is this actually going to happen with this guy? Well, we're going to watch that next one very closely. It was a great weekend for the San Diego Padres, Seattle mayor. Earners off to good start hitting a lot of home runs. I felt like Tim if any team really served notice besides the brewers, and we talked about the brewers and Christian yelich. I thought it was the Tampa Bay rays facing the Houston Astros one of the American League superpowers, and what was a really good series of pitching. I think the numbers were for the weekend series. The Astros pitchers combined for forty six strikeouts in three walks remarkable numbers. And yet the race took three out of four. I think that's the first sign. This is going to be pretty good team. Right. And let's not forget who they're playing the Houston Astros, and they handled that middle of the order beautifully. They held Alex bregman down. It's just another reminder that the rays know exactly what they're doing now with the whole opener thing. But this time, of course, they have three quality major league starters. And then they can fake it or open, it whatever you wanna call it for two games. And with the way that Kevin cash moves that lineup around. He's got so many different. Options that was really impressive. What the raise did the Astros after losing game. One to beat them three in a row and pitch that. Well, another reminder that they're right in the middle of that. While maybe even the division race in the American League east. And Lastly, I want to ask you about a strange situation, a strange response at all happened on Friday, the reported that is something that I had heard before in circles among executives that the team that is deemed most efficient or arbitration gets sort of plastic fake world. Wrestling federation belt in it's a toy belt pass from team to team as they go through the arbitration battles, which you know, and I know agents on the union side teams also prepare for starting back in August. Like, this is something it's important on both sides. So on major league baseball side. The teen does the best gets this belt will the story came out on Friday, and Tony Clark is head of the union. Put out a statement. And there are other players commenting on this too in his response. Tony said that the clubs make sport of trying to suppress salaries, and he feels that's a blatant lack of respect Tim when? I read this. I thought you know, yet teams are trying to repress salaries in agents in arbitration or trying to escalate salaries that's inherent in the process. And it seemed like a strange complaint to me and reminded me of a pitcher being upset with a batter flipping a bat. And I talked to agents talked to executives they thought it was kind of odd too. I thought the more important news of the day on Friday was the fact that for the second straight year salaries are going down, which is a for me a much bigger concern for the union. What you make of all that? Yeah. And the whole arbitration thing has really is really not a very a very good thing for baseball, as we know I covered this in the mid eighties for the first time and teams take tremendous pride in winning an arbitration battle. They and this is in the eighties. They used to take their best people say figure out how we're going to beat this guy. And it is a win-lose thing. Maybe. It shouldn't be. But this is how teams approach it. And it's never a healthy situation where they just tear into one of their own players and tell them how terrible he is. And the residue of that is something now where maybe they shouldn't give out a belt like that. But it's just trying to reward a team for saying you guys did a good job. Maybe not in repressing salaries. But in just presenting things the way, they should be presented, and I understand the union being upset about this. But this is the job the responsibility of the club to make sure that they run their business properly. And that's how they look at it the union, of course, doesn't look at it that way at all. Yeah. And we've established on the spot cast your lot nicer than I am look. I don't understand why the union is upset about this. I wrote an apiece on Sunday, you know, that when the owners had their butts kicked by gene Orson dont fear in the one thousand nine hundred five strike when they got the court cases decided. If origin fears shared a handshake or a high five or backflips or a bottle of champagne. Hey, that's the way it goes. Right. It's that's the nature of of labor relations each side is pushing and pulling and I can't get upset about either side doing something like being happy. And that's what I felt like that that statement the other day by Tony was like we don't like the way you're celebrating. And I heard from agents like who cares? What they do. Just win the next case, right? We ask our players to be wildly competitive every day and try to win all this is the front office in baseball being wildly competitive and trying to win. And you're right. Buster you should not are you in a player gets excited about something? And you shouldn't be shouldn't be offended when management gets excited about something or the union leaders, which you know, that they can when they win your arbitrating cases. Who cares Tim? Thanks for doing this. Enjoy your game tonight. Okay. Buster thank. Wchs. Before Sunday night. Baseball Mattis Gershon set out in the stands with Bryce Harper to talk to them about joining the Phillies give a lesson. Let's go back to the winter the decision that you made to sign here. And there was a lot written about the dinner. You had in Vegas with Phillies managing partner, John Middleton. His wife Li you and your wife Kayla. You guys had a lot of conversation. What were the one or two things that John said that clicked in your mind Phillies, the place? Yeah. A sit down John here. He is very very personal with everything he talked about. Here's very real with everything talked about, you know, I think it needed to be like that. I think needs to be very upfront. You know, it was a decision that he was gonna make for a long period of time and myself as well there needs to be trust on both sides. And we're able to you know, we were able to do that. I mean, we got along very, well we met back to back days while we're in Vegas and for dinner and for about a brunch before they came back, and it just felt right? Kayla where we'll sit down the next couple of days and really talk about it and think about it Sanford and came in after that, and then you know, LA came after that as well. But you know, every time we talked about failure. And even mentioned Philly was felt right? Philly fans will they'll put their arms around you. And love you when things are going good, and they're happy. But they'll let you know when they're unhappy. Have you considered the time thirteen years? It's inevitable will happen some point when that goes down. Yeah. I mean, I think that's why you know fans that love sports and love, you know, their teams in their city understand that they want the best product out there every single night that they can have, you know, they're coming out here and supporting us each and every night, and they deserve to get that. And you know, that just makes me wanna be the best player. I can't for this city be the best person for this city on the field and in the community. And you know, it's just it's like you said, it's it's kind of inedible in the next thirteen years. We're going to have some up and down season. It's just part of the game as part of the process. Hopefully, win we win more than we lose, of course. And if we can come together as a team and do that then this fan base, of course, is going to support us each and every single night. And you know, that's all we can ask for as we watch the suburban garden. I'm Kathleen Kennedy without stubbing it. He notice moves like social tool, it's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got known his how Iko not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer on second thought. Maybe don't watch God knows to carefully people might talk. Todd Radim is he chief executive while weekly quiz easy, graphic artist. Who's working be seeing on ballfields all across America all around the world. And Todd before we get to our weekly quiz. You have lit American fire. Tremendous response to the first episode of cap talk the other day, and you did plan to talk about one particular team. I'll save that information for us. But then I from the ballpark. I have to say this correctly T mobile park in Seattle. I went and got three caps to them. Or for me? Mariners caps won the old throwback with a Trident of the Mariners. I put them on the in the dugout bench. In the visitor side in tweeted out a picture and ask which one did you would you prefer? That's the one. I got for Josh men. It was a lot of response and you call the inaudible on the conversation this week. Yeah. I mean, it's really very timely. So here we go. The Mariners tried. I mean, there are many things are they arming or they cheesy or they classic or are they dated? So let's throw it out. And see what we got. Yeah. I'll I'll go first here. I love them. I love them. I think honestly, I think they rival the m b baseball glove brewers logo as the coolest logo. Wow. In baseball history. The Expos logo in there as well. Todd. I know you're not a fan because it's upside down, and that goes against Greek mythology, but I think turning the tried and upside down to make an M, which of course means Mariners. I think it's incredibly creative incredibly cool in the color scheme is gorgeous. Yeah. I gotta jump in here. I don't know how I'm gonna do in this week's quiz, but it's already wind because I just heard the expert sort of scoffed at Josh about. Oh, wow. Wow. I interrupt person. I think it was the inference that I'm like, you know, all down with Greek mythology that this drives my my entire conversation here. But go on BUSTER. Well, no, that's what I was going to make the point. I was great for me to hear you laugh at joshes theory. You know, because you're the expert not Joshua. And I love the fact he sorted dismissed them. It'd be like be trying to talk hitting with JD Martinez. We'll have to come through the bad with the plane. Josh telling you, what's what's going on with the tried. And no, no, this is this is all a very personal thing. But but BUSTER, let's hear what you have to say. And then we can then we could beat on each other with this come up. Well, this is definitely one where I got to tell you that after tweeted out that picture of the three caps and asked which one that folks preferred some of the responses to me, we go back into my the fact that I'm colorblind 'cause people are like, well, I like that one. But I like it with Kiel Bill or one on the left, but I like it with the green or whatever color was, and I'm like, I have no idea what you're referring to like, I I don't even know what the colors are that on the apps that I put down so I couldn't in all seriousness going back to. The Griffey days. You couldn't tell the difference between the road cap and the home cap that one of them was navy and the other one was you can't tell the difference between navy and -til. Well, no, I can see that. There is a difference. But I just can't identify him in like someone my mind's I can say, oh, yes. The 'til would stand off much better against the the logo there. Now. I just my brain doesn't work like that. And so I I personally like the old where they have the Seattle Mariners in the circle tidy could probably describe it better than I can. I like that one of the three rather than the Trident. Well, let me jump in here and just say hearkening back to something we've discussed before he'll discussion I'm going to phone north west grand Pantani twenty nine. Thanks todd. We'll talk to you next week or a gusting. Well. Let let's like let's keep an Arlene over here. So the Trident I, you know, I was I think there's like this of comparison as far as I'm concerned, and you know, my feelings about the original Blue Jays, look they came in at the same time. And I've had this thing for decades and decades, and it's just it's not as good now having said that the whole Greek mythology thing aside, you know, I think there's definitely charm to it. It was really in use for such a short period of time for some very unsuccessful early expansion. Mariners teams. I mean, you know, we can we can look at who wore this particular cap. And you know, it ain't Ken Griffey junior is all I'm going to say so. Yeah. But but Josh to two and this. We can move BUSTER away from this part of the conversation, the colors were awesome that really blew and very vivid yellow gold, really, vibrant, especially for a team that played under that concrete dome. So, you know, I'm not totally totally down on the tried it. But but I do think that again there's comparison to be made here. The the Trident was then squeezed into a star following the one thousand nine hundred seventy nine all star games played in the king dome. And then they go to this sort of nebulous generic vanilla s with a with a drop shadow. And then we arrive at the compass rose the spirit handsome. Kind of timeless successful thing. So, you know, I'm not totally down with or on the Trident. And and but all I'm going to say, it's just, you know, don't don't tempt to the gods inside. And and all that stuff. Well, maybe that's why they are so unsuccessful we're in that cap L paraphrase, everything they would just said Todd agrees with me the expert agrees with me. Josh, you're wrong ridiculous. Both ridiculous. Well, it should soon. The Trident hat will be in your possession. Josh, thankfully for me. Because I don't want it in my house. All right. Let's get to this week's quiz, or I guess here we go. So Josh has taken the lead one nothing just saying over here. It's an early and there's a long way to go. But here's this week's question. Which one of these hall of famers, never never wore the name of his team's home location on the front of his jersey at any point during his career city. Your state, no trickery, never wore the home location. Wasn't a Dave Winfield. Be robin. Yount see Hank Aaron or D critic Bijou one of these men never wore the name of his home city or state. Wow. Winfield yount Aaron Bijou now. And in my still going I under the old rules. Yes. We stick with those. Yes. Okay. In the interest of time. I'm going to streamline it. I could sit here, and mole, and mole and mole and talk over. But I'm gonna say it's Craig busy. Oh. Man. Yeah. I have I have it down to two Winfield yount Aaron BG. Oh. Boy, sorry. I'm dragging this out. I'd like it. Yeah. Now, he's taken them at times. I gonna take and taught I appeal for we need some parliament Ray area. And yes, some some Brexit or something. Yeah. Exactly. I'm going to say the gentleman yield is time and give it back water or Robin yount. Well, you're both wrong because it was Hank. Aaron dang it. Oh that was my second choice. Oh, yes. Hank Aaron both breathes and brewers just Braves and brewers never Milwaukee Atlanta. So. Trench warfare begins, the tragic invest gust, and we moved forward, man. Oh, that's awesome. What a great quiz top. Thanks for doing this. And thanks for adjusting on the fly. They talk about the Trident. We'll keep discover station going guys. Thanks a lot. So before every Sunday night baseball game. I talked to a lot of players and try to get some background collect some thoughts and observations from various players, and I asked Freddie, Freeman about Ronald kunia junior. And I tell you what what he said surprise me how you hitter rise since the beginning of last year. He's taken walks. That's that's the biggest thing. He wants to hit the swing is still wants to do that. I think it's gets a little upset when he walks but won t learn take his walks in the second half. He became a whole different player. Opening. They took two walks. Got a pitch the hit me. That's gonna make them in the mitroff level in my opinion. You said I remember talking to you once about that. I want to say like four years ago. I was like what turnaround you see stops pitch zone. That's the whole key telling them that. A little bit. They're not gonna give in. They're not gonna give them this in the big leagues. They're going to him being twenty one years old. They're going to see if he's going to chase. See if he gets frustrated, I still get frustrated. Believe me I do. I wanna hit two. But when you find yourself sort of swinging when you've got a real back in and if he's taking walks really on like he did day. It's leaking to see Ronald kunia income players. When did you start to see that change? After after he came back from his injury. Here's a little different player. Especially in the second half the season. Once he started taking walks really didn't know what to do anymore because they were getting he's getting into. Here's counts every single a bad. It seemed like and he started making him pay. And that's great do. Do. Day that I that forty five thousand he doesn't take the fat off his shoulders draws that wall had fallen behind to is that just kind of a sign that his. I'm sure it's I don't know what is ceiling is. You know, it's every single day does something as well. As you. To be twenty one years old, and I day to go out there and your first they'd be promise you I've been swing. I say. So. Even in spring training. He was taking you thinking a lot more pitchers in spring training. I don't know if he's trying to set hitters set up for the season. But a lot more than I was accustomed to seeing. And if he starts if he's doing that, I don't know where you can go as a pitcher. I don't really see you need bowls. Doesn't matter. If you forward he's still gonna get you basically Thursday was off curveball. It doesn't matter. What you throw. He's ready to hit. He's certainly layoff tough pitches. It's going to be a problem. We heard Gade Kappler furious about retail skins getting hit by a pitch on Sunday night. Well before that game gave us a little calmer. When he talked our boop shabby here were the skipper of the Philadelphia Phillies game Kappler year two for you. And you got a bunch of new faces. And obviously the guy in right field is the biggest name in the newest face, Bryce Harper. And there's a buzz isn't there you were just talking with some of the assembled media about opening day everybody's excited, and then there's usually a little bit of a lull, but we're here for Sunday night baseball and we were yesterday, and there's still a buzz. Yeah. The buzz is like it's opening day tonight. And that's unheard of the interesting thing about opening day is we came in to die game feeling like we had one five or six straight. Right. That was the buzz in the building. Like we had already. We already had some wins under our belt. That's how the fans were reacting. And now we do actually actually have a couple of win of wins under about it still feels like opening data's still preparing the same way still the same level of excitement. And you know, we got a lot of work to do. But. Doesn't mean that. We can't celebrate the good moments that have happened. So far, what do you like about this team? When you when you look at this team on paper, and you say man over one sixty two this is what will be really good at. I love the fact that our our clubhouse is filled with leaders. So I think last year one of our young leaders Reese Hoskins was it was in a tough spot. He had less than a year of service time, and he was the biggest voice in the clubhouse on the position players side. And now we've added some people around him to help support that incredible voice. It's Andrew mccutchen. It's JT rail mood though, it's Bryce Harper. It's still Jerry Jake Arrieta. It's an Aaron Nola who feels even more compelled to speak his mind. And now, we have a collection of leaders. There are more. I mean, I think that that Caesar Hernandez has leadership characteristics. Hector Narus spoke on our opening night in spring training and delivered some really powerful. Words. So we have a lot of guys who are pulling the rope in the same direction. If there's anything that stands out to me. It's leadership. Would you learn from last year we were just talking off the air about maximizing a lineup as opposed to or I should say maybe including or contemplating player comfort. Yeah. So last year, I really utilized information. I was really interested in in utilizing information and sometimes a stoic way in an unemotional way this year. I think I've recognized how important it is to put players in their most comfortable positions because that comfort could lead to confidence. And one thing we know is that confident baseball players are good baseball player. So although we are still going to try to get tactical advantage where we can not at the expense of stripping away comfort for players. Good to see you. Thanks for the time. Thanks, boo. Pre shit it bleach. Your tweets some really interesting Bleacher tweeds BUSTER and some new blood some new people getting involved, which is always good to see we got this one from Harry loves sports at not. Camera. One Harry says which is more likely to happen Craig kimbrel signing a one year deal with a contender or signing a long term deal with a hopeful team that has a bright future, and I checked on this on Sunday. And what I'm told is he still looking for a long term deal. Okay. Do you think it will be with the team that has playoff aspirations this year? I it's a work in progress. But right now, he's still sticking to that request for long-term deal. Fair. Enough quest is next at quest. Cold tribe BUSTER with the new trade deadline will we see early season trades where we hadn't previously. Yeah. And the first person actually heard mentioned that was Ravitch on this podcast when he talked about sort of pre deadline trades where teams that feel like, you know, what we're going to be on the fence at the end of July. Let's boost the team up here for the next five weeks if we can make some inroads in the standings of we can't we don't players at the end of July. I do think there's gonna be some of that. I followed up his comment talk to executives with teams. And they thought that that's certainly a possibility you'll see that diamond dasher next up at diamond dasher one guys if Bryce Harper could take a sub five hundred Phillies team from a year ago and lead them into the postseason deep into the postseason in two thousand nine thousand nine would it be the biggest impact in recent memory? Boy, I tell you what when the Diamondbacks. Go Randy Johnson. And Curt Schilling. Yeah. How's that going out the CC's about the assigning where the Yankees win the World Series? The first year marked Shera there have been guys who've had a bigger as big an impact that is your describing. I think in the past on the field. Josh I've never seen one baseball player. Make as much of an impact in terms of the interest in the team is there isn't Bryce Harper. When it's true. It's true. And I forget who tweeted out the photo might have even been Todd. But like the Phillies team store like all they have is Harper jerseys. I mean, it's incredible. Well, he's he's not even the the only the only good player on the team. They they have some dudes and you go to their team store in pretty much all you can buy a number three jersey. It's it's unbelievable. Rebel sports at rebel sports. One wants to know is it an overreaction to say the cubs need to start panicking with their pitching issues just three games into the season. Or is this valid concern. Despite how early into the year we are. It's a valid concern with your Darvish, and I don't think there's any getting around that we talked about it on sportscenter on Sunday morning. He's in year two a six year one hundred twenty six million dollar deal. The cubs farm system is down in part because of the trades. They made is they won the World Series in two thousand sixteen. And have made the playoffs in recent seasons. So they don't have a lot of resources right now to improve this pitching. They need you Darvish to to contribute. And Josh that first outing. Wow, I seven walks into into thirds. It is a concern. I agree with Tim. You know, those are the two most watched starters this week are Chris sale, and you Darvish what do you think? No question about it. Yeah. And I think both are concerning. And if they come out that you mentioned this with him if they both come out for their second start and log a similarly unsettling performance, man, you gotta wonder what's going on a couple more here. Let's get to this one from Duval at Duval county buck which is a more surprising start to the season. The success of the Blue Jays rotation. The Orioles taking the series in Yankee Stadium or the Mariners. Finding many ways to win getting off to a great start. Yeah. We've established I never say anything. Nice about the Mariners. You know? I'm just kidding. Because they disappointed me so many times passing predictions. It's pretty cool to see their offense. Like they're gonna get in talking with those guys last week. There was a lot of confidence in Tim Beckham. Dee Gordon that that team is going to head. We'll see how that goes. I can't say anything other than the Yankees take the series and Yankees. I mean, the Orioles series and Yankee Stadium two out of three from the Yankees won baseball superpowers from a team that won forty seven games last year. That was a shocker to me. What about you big time? It's definitely that. Especially since we were talking all spring about. Hey, the Yankees and their schedule and how it lines up for them to get off to a hot start. This is certainly not what they had in mind in. Finally, we got this one from Nathan Nathan is at G nilly ninety seven BUSTER who would you say was the MVP of opening weekend. Harper yelich, Goldschmidt, or Bellinger, and Nathan you inspired me to send out a poll question on Twitter. And as I wrote to borrow from our friends Golic and wingo who won major league baseball first weekend. And. I put those four names out there, yell at Goldschmidt Bellinger Harper and a runaway winner and in less than two hours. We got almost twenty thousand votes runaway winner Christian yell at sixty four percent, Bryce Harper. Seventeen percent. Goldschmidt fourteen percent Bellinger five percent. I'd say that's about right? Don't you think? Josh. I think so. Yeah. And I'm glad to see that. It was so overwhelming because I agree that it is yellow she got my vote and to see that myself and sixty four percent of the voters agree makes me feel good. Well, you are right. Italy are you and Tim or wrong? And when I I mean, I'm sorry. The end of the year, you're gonna go, you know, that yelich trade that's one of the better trades in history. Forgets rock move over. Lou brock. Here's a Christian yelich. Absolutely. Hey, great. Great Bleacher tweets today. Great to see some new blood in the Bleacher tweet segment. Why don't you get involved? Just make sure you use the hashtag Bleacher tweets, that's it for today. And I got a long list of people to think Bryce Harper Mattie v. Freddy Freeman Tim Kirch in gate Kappler Todd rate and Beauchamp. Josh forget, anybody me. Oh, yeah. Thanks to you. We're going to everybody. Thanks for listening for listening to the baseball tonight podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy, focus podcast checkout. 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Bob Melvin, Gabe Kapler on When the Games Stopped

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26:37 min | 3 months ago

Bob Melvin, Gabe Kapler on When the Games Stopped

"Support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars. Buy a plane ticket. Pay down your student loan. Treat yourself to those shoes. You've been eyeing with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you can be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey to save with progressive in two thousand nineteen can do join episode of giants splash as class san francisco chronicle podcast on the giants. The oakland a.'s in major league baseball. I'm chronicle as writer. Matt kawahara today chronicle national baseball writer. John shea and i are looking back to one year ago when baseball abruptly shut down in the middle of spring training under the weight of the growing coronavirus. Pandemic as manager bob melvin and giants manager gave kappler will each share their recollections of that jarring an uncertain moment in baseball and the world and john and i will recall what it was like to cover that from spring training camps in arizona. All that now on this join episode of giant splash and as john. I'd like to start by asking what you remember about the events leading up to two midgely baseball announcing that it was going to be pausing spring training and delaying opening day. What was happening in giants. Camp what stands out to you. When you think back to that that erin just crazy. Looking back was normal. I mean the morning of march levin. I got school interview with a listen neck and it had been set up and we talked for about a half hour and the went to a backfield. it was kind of a drizzly rayvey day. The giants were out to surprise. But buster posey wasn't on the trip. He was working out a back there. He you know he said something. Never really from daddy so baseball secondary figuring the important stuff out. I then figure out baseball. And and of course. I mean and i spoke with jeff margin and kevin dowsman that day because those are two guys who played in that april. Two thousand fifteen game in baltimore that had no fans. There is civil unrest and nobody was invited to the park. That was the question time. Would games be played an empty. Ballparks that was. That was the question not what baseball be. Shut down and But but his alma surreal looking back the capital named johnny cueto the opening day starter after that game in surprise in wasn't that strange. I mean we you know we all we all were thinking. The season would start up baby without fans maybe at neutral sites but then of course the nba shut down after rudy. Gobert tested positive. And then the next day the giants were scheduled to be off that was march twelfth and that was the day baseball shutdown and i kept going out to scottsdale stadium and same with you and mesa to report on whatever was happening goings on but You know nothing was half that sunday march sixteenth. A rented a car and start driving home. The posey comments. It sounds like we're pretty prescient. Obviously when things started up again he opted out of the season. But in it's just it's odd to to look back on that now in knowing what you know. It's kind of see what was coming yet. You're right. I never connected that. But you're right. Jose up dowden road. Another surreal moment is is once again the manager named cueto the opening day starter Right before things ramped up again in july And so we swapped the same story all over again. Sixty games later and postseason and now a year later here we are again. Yeah it was as campaign was a little bit different. The march eleventh. They were actually rained. Out that day there was supposed to play a game against the angels on the road and i think there were actually on the way there and it was called off due to rain so they turned around and went back and they they. Everybody showed up on the morning of march twelfth. They had a game scheduled against the dodgers. They didn't know if it was going to be played or not because that was in the in the wake of the nba shutting down and there were thoughts. I think that you know major league baseball wasn't going to be far behind but But days were all ad hoc stadium on the morning of march twelfth. There was another gray morning. There were players sort of filing it out of the clubhouse we did a couple interviews on the concourse. They talked to jake. Diekman and tj mcfarland. Two left handed relievers about the new better. Minimum rule knows a story. That i didn't enough writing and And yeah there were guys kind of milling around Working out thrown await ball against the against the wall just waiting and then when the announcement came down bob. Melvin came out of the clubhouse in antarctica. Few of us on the concourse in part of his message was yeah. It seems like it's it's time to slow down there is there. Are things here that are happening. That are a little bit bigger than baseball. Obviously i don't think anybody at that point at least in that setting really had an idea of what it was gonna turn into Is definitely it was definitely a jarring moment and And yet like you said. I was going to holcomb stadium for a couple of days after that We catch players in the only one. I really talked to. Who's chris bassett starting pitcher who was loading up his truck to to drive back home to north carolina and He said basically. I don't know where we're going to get back together. But yeah it was. Obviously it was two and a half three and half months later. Everybody reconvening in july so Right now we're gonna hear from From the managers of both teams I bob melvin of the ace and then give kappler. The giants will will share their recollections of what happened in those those days in in their thoughts on how baseball has has evolved over the last year while i was on my way to a game against the angels and as i was on my way there i got a text joe maddon sam game was cancelled so i think it was weather related though and then we go back. You know the first thing that stands out to me was the rudy bear thing. So we're watching that. In the morning. And i might have been the day before. I'm not sure but that's the first thing that stood out to me about this thing could could get in here pretty quickly and then you know after that rain out. The next thing was a meeting You know amongst our team felt like there was like a day off in the day after that it was done so it happened. Quickly was dramatic to think about itseld ominous There was no time table for us to come back and is is the days went on it. Got more and more ominous like are. We actually gonna play this year. I remember. I think it was march. Twelve you came out to the concourse hope stadium and there were just a small group of reporters standing sitting around and You talked for a couple minutes in you. Basically said it's when it's time to slow down just generally and i was wondering what was your sense of of sort of the scope or the potential scope of this. Yeah no is. I was saying that though in my mind that was like you know i have to come out here and talk to you at a distance and so forth thinking to myself. This is ridiculous and then not only. Was it not ridiculous. The world changed so Those were my thoughts at that time When i was when i came out there for the first time and a half they talked you guys into distance. What was your biggest concern in the moment. Do you think when everybody was going their separate ways. We if we're going to be able to play we're going to be able to play baseball at your let alone you know. Get spring training going again So everybody went. It almost felt like the end of the season on you go home and you know it's gonna be quite a while before you know potentially get going again or if you'd gone at all and then you know it it becomes reality and then it just kind of fills you up and consumes you with you know now. This is not just about baseball. This is about life in general and in the safety for everybody in the world when you held that meeting or when the team held that meeting. Did you sort of leave everybody with a message really not because there was so much uncertainty in in whatever you felt like sang or whatever your thoughts were could change on a dime and so we were just trying to leave it open. You know stay closed for a while and you know we'll get back to you once. There's more clarity to the situation. We asked jake diekman the other day about his memories of He said that he was one of the players who thought that it wouldn't be such a long delay. The it might be a couple of weeks. I think at that point. It was at least a couple of weeks in. He got everybody. Who's going to be getting back together. Pretty soon How would you best describe sort of the feeling In the clubhouse overall at i did it did feel like that was a possibility. And i think everybody probably had a different thought. You know that's what i was hoping for but in the back of my mind you know the the days certainly days went along. It did not seem realistic but at that time it was more hope than anything else. That's what i you know. I was trying to be optimistic trying to be old full that it might only be a couple. We expect as the days went by after that. It seemed like each and every day. It seemed like it was going to be a long shot a year later. How is how is baseball different. Well you know we we. I think the fact that we went through a season and went through the protocols and so forth Allowed us to be a little bit more comfortable. We came back testing now. It just feels like normal. You test in and go out and do your thing. It's the it's staggering of times. It's a staggering stretch times. You know it's really hard for me to to see multiple fields out there. Because you know there's a couple of things i need to see in a couple more than i can't see so you just try to pick what you think's the most important thing now right now to to observe and then you get to the game and you know it's it's limited guys at the game too. So it's more the structure in the workouts. That are still feel because you know which ryan were put together schedules every day. Matt still the hard part. That's the one that i hope. At some point time goes back to normal where your whole team can team camaraderie big and right now in spring training especially with all the new guys that we have. It's difficult for to get to know the guys in the fashion. You normally do retain instructor so ingrained in the culture of baseball up for you last season when you were going through the sixty game season what was the biggest. The most. Jarring difference for your. Your routine is manager. It was it was hard every day it. There was never a day where you felt like you know. I'm getting used to this because you know you're only coaching staff. You're you're allowed to get there six hours before where you're normally seven and on advanced as maybe even before that so every day seemed rushed to completely out of your routine yet to find a way to maybe work out. I started doing yoga. My room and stuff on well beats or whatever too. So i didn't feel rushed. Got the ballpark. Because we are so routine oriented off the charts routine orient So that was the hardest part of it just tricks trying to slow your mind to work. you know. Once you got to the ballpark. You didn't feel like there was too much to do too little time than and then you know early on say you know. We went on the road that kind of got used to home because the summer camp and Being starting at oakland now in went on the road and they're six hours before its advance day. And now you're buses. Pull up and the testing sites in a different place so the buses have to go around and in fine the place and now you feel like you really rushed and it was just hard the entire season to find any kind of routine at all still doing yoga. Did somebody yard offcie is not right now. No generally Maybe big picture in not just baseball. How how has your perspective changed after a year this well. I think everybody realizes when you look at the numbers you know that have accumulated that this is way bigger than sport. Sport has found a way to integrate with this It's still hard. It's still risky But but all the sports have seemed defiant. Some easier than others have found a way to continue to do this in in a in. Try to make a you understand. I think more so that we're entertainment value. You know when as a player you know. It's a sport. Competition fans stands. But now i think guys really took pride last year in that we can go back out there and be real entertainment value for country that completely shut down and all you were watching sports wise. Were you know games from previous years. And that gets old after a while. And lastly a year later does it feel like Baseball's either edging back toward what you would consider familiar or normal or moving toward a new new type of normal low evolve but hopefully we we wanna see fans in the stands. We want to pack ballparks. Whether or not that's feasible or not. That's what we want to see. That's where you really gain the energy and and that was the thing that was probably most noticeable last year when when you were playing is you know. There's a certain sense of you gear up for a game. You go out there some nerves which are always good and then you go out. And there's no fans and all of a sudden it's a letdown and then you've got to find a way to to you know find some inspiration again. Will that will that be the sort of harbinger. The signal normal is when there are fans in the building again. I believe so and not just twenty percent. You know more so than the you know. Twenty percents great. But everybody's looking for for more than that and hopefully with the vaccine you know everybody saved and everybody can come to gain. And that's what everybody hopes for. We'll be back with john's interview. Giants manager gave kappler on his memories of the shutdown up to this. And remember you can access oliver giants. Andy's coverage and much more with a subscription to the san francisco chronicle go to sf chronicle dot com slash podcast. That's sf chronicle dot com slash p. o. d. This episode is brought to you by comcast because of covid nineteen internet. Traffic has spiked but comcast is prepared. They've created a powerful network with one simple purpose to keep customers connected since two thousand seventeen comcast has invested twelve billion dollars to grow and evolve a smart reliable network and now with many of us working learning and entertaining at home their coverage has helped millions of people stay connected when they need it. Most learn more at comcast dot com slash network. Well could you reflect on a year ago. It was wednesday march eleventh and the giants were in surprise to play. The rangers in the game was called after five innings wet grounds and four of us. Were there reporters myself. And chris haft and carrie crowley mark sanchez and we had four of us had no idea what was to come. We're asking you about opening day starter. Which you you were nice enough to say. It's johnny cueto. We were all giddy because we had some to ride with the headline on it and we had no idea that you know. We're hours away or day. Away from from a shutdown. But but you were about to enjoy a long-awaited scheduled day off thursday march twelfth but just curious on on your reflections going back a year. Yeah i remember that conversation about. Johnny cueto outgained concealed light. It was just yesterday. We wrapped up a pretty good game against the range osen and and discussed it. Just like you mentioned there was kind of exciting for me to announce Mike i opening day starter with giant than Honestly really seeing at that point and we understood that we were in a timeline. We're gonna to need to be really careful. But i don't think anybody really careful because of the virus but i. I don't think that anybody at that time was fully prepared for what was to come and i don't think anybody at that time. Thought that you know we were going to shut down But i think what that moment did for all of us in industry one in demonstrated how serious. This was how much attention it needed. And how we were going to need to be resilient together and really thorough guidelines protocols and health and safety earth which. I think we did a really nice job over the course of the summer and even to today after our spring training game day against the borough every day pretty seriously and i think a year ago jumping. You will do you remember where you were when you first either got notified or saw it online or With with your phone or whatever source you used to obtain that information or was it a phone call or how how and where were you Because yeah the club obviously to inform everyone to stay clear of scottsdale stadium and then it became clear. You know within a day or so. You know we're not playing ball and eventually people started going on. Yeah i know. I so i'm just kind of me. I don't remember how that information got. I assume it was be a text. Message from from sky errors or or from far on Because at that point it would be my responsibility to inform our field staff and in our club so that that's my assumption but honestly i don't remember it out permission. Can't i can tell you what what happened. After which was a matt scrambled to make sure that we got the information to all the parties that need lit assumes partial and we started making plans for You know what comes next and we knew that we wouldn't be playmate all anytime soon but we had no so You know we knew that we weren't going to be playing baseball. The next day was for sure and and that in itself was enough of. What's i guess looking back at. You pretty proud of maybe baseball. In general but more in particular the giants how how you as a franchise handled everything because it was so new to everybody. Yeah i am actually to. The giants handled things. I'm not proud of the way. The industry handle things a lot of people Around baseball who felt strongly that lobby. We weren't gonna make it through and I think there are people. And i remember talking to national writers more in in just conversations and they were privy to a lot of the information from the various clubs around the league thinking that we work in a start back up at all and so and at every turn there has been and continues to be a ton of uncertainty. And so that's why. I think it continues to be so So important that we continue to focus on health and safety protocols because we're just not out of the work and While it's really comforting to know that we have seen now that we can depend on and that we you know the johnson johnson doc the join moderna and pfizer. We're still we're still not out of the would that. I think we ought to be we. Continue to be dolgin. I don't want us to get overconfident. His point I think we have to take it. Zoos yeah we are A year removed To the day and in your mind how has change. I mean that's a pretty broad question but might there be one or two elements in the game on your mind that that's a year ago you would've said wow i never could have imagined that. Yeah i got two great question. I feel like we all mitt baseball the way we remember it and i ate without need for the ballpark like it was second home. And not coming to the ballpark peeling light. We ought to be really careful because really a major league clubhouse things but it's really a safe space for player players. It replaced to meet you. Eat out to bid socialized to empathize. Plan to strategize. And right now it doesn't feel like it. Did those things now feels like a place in get work done and get out as quickly as possible and i think in particular. I feel most for people around the game like wrong. Lords who really have come to expect the game to be certain way when. You're out the ballpark and that it just doesn't bring back or many of us for that matter. I don't want you know. Ron and others myself included. It doesn't bring saying rubble dot his faction. It certainly it certainly feels great to compete. And i feel walking. We all feel lucky to be at the ballpark every day. But it but it's not the same environment right now. So that doesn't feel that one day i think the biggest change that we're all we're all dealing and hey i just can't get enough that i know that we are all in air very privileged position and that there are people who have been you know. Isolated away from their families Income case in case you knock being able to go to work and so we are so lucky glass but it's you off the question. About what what. They got the most different. Yeah that's a great point but now we're closing in on Baseball twenty twenty one. And there's an expert expectation for better days and the hope is for one hundred sixty two games. Unlike last year was sixty. But you know we we know now. The fans will be at the ballpark at oracle at least in limited numbers. And you're getting the team ready. These are the final weeks going in the season. Opener is not far off. Wh what is your level of as we move forward is pretty high. I mean john as a Optimistic person in general. So i think any ending turn on continued out that racist. It's just natural for me. I got. I got dot for my dad. Who had a similar outlook and look forward to each day. So i gotta say. I'm that that naturally who i am in this particular case That elevated a little bit because we have vaccines in place and You know people around the country and around the world are slowly getting back any which is creating a level of confidence that we haven't we haven't seen in a little while and i think there is a bit of light light at the end of the end of the tunnel if we do things the right way Just having limited fans in the stands in spring training has been a huge boost to morale We'd love having our fans on the stand and just gotta hearing the cheers when something goes well and sometimes even hearing the dot. it's actually one thing And we missed that. We feel like we're in a partnership with the fans and they are a part of our team in many ways so we look forward to to oracle park with fans and they got going to be pretty at the mental moment. We're obviously everybody in the ballpark but for the place. Well this is wonderful. Thanks so much gay bud. We're all rooting for normalcy. Or something close to it Good luck moving forward enjoyed. John is always l. Do it for this joint. Episode giants splash and as plus our. Thanks again to bob. Melvin and gabe kaplan for joining us our producers today g allen johnson and king kaufman. We'll be vaccine with more giants and as coverage stay safe and thanks for listening.

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Bob Melvin, Gabe Kapler on When the Games Stopped

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26:33 min | 3 months ago

Bob Melvin, Gabe Kapler on When the Games Stopped

"Support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars. Buy a plane ticket paid on your student. Loan treat yourself to those shoes. You benign with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who save with progressive and twenty nineteen f-. I can do join. Episode of giants splash in as plus san francisco. Chronicle's podcast on giants the oakland a.'s. In major league baseball. I'm chronicle as writer kawahara today chronicle national baseball writer john shea and i are looking back to one year ago when baseball abruptly shut down in the middle of spring training under the weight of the growing coronavirus. Pandemic as manager. Bob melvin and giants manager gave kappler will each share their recollections of that jarring an uncertain moment in baseball and the world and john and i will recall what it was like to cover that from spring training camps in arizona. All that now on this join episode of giant splash and as john. I'd like to start by asking what you remember about the events leading up to two midgely baseball announcing that it was going to be pausing spring training in delaying opening day What was happening in giants camp. What stands out to you when you think back to that that period it just crazy looking back. It was someone normal. I mean the morning of march levin. I got the school interview with listen neck and it had been set up and we talked about a half hour and then i went to a backfield. It was kind of a drizzly rainy day. The giants were mount to surprise with buster. Posey wasn't on the trip. He was working back there. He had you know y- said something i'd never really from is baseball secondary figuring the important stuff out. I then figure out baseball. And of course. I mean and i. I spoke with jackson margin and kevin thousand that day because those are two guys who played in that april fifteen game in baltimore that have no fans. There is civil unrest and nobody was invited to the park. That was the question. At the time we would games be played an empty ballparks. That was that was a question not would baseball. Be shut down and But it's almost surreal looking back but kappler named johnny cueto the oakland date starter after that game. In surprise in was an extra in jamaica We we all we all were thinking. The season would start on time. They maybe without fans may be at neutral sites But then of course that night the nba shutdown after really go bare tested positive and then the next day. The giants were scheduled to be off. That was march twelfth. And that was the day baseball shutdown and i kept going out to scottsdale stadium and same with you and mason to report on whatever was happening goings on but Nothing was that sunday march sixteenth. I read a card startled driving home. The posey comments. It sounds like we're pretty prescient. Obviously he when things started up again he opted out of the season. But and it's just it's odd to look back on that now knowing what you know kind of see what was coming. Yeah you're right that i'd never connected that but you're right. Jose opted out and another surreal. Moment is is once again. The manager named cueto the opening day. Starter right before things ramped up again in july And so we wrote the same story all over sixty games later and postseason him and now a year later we are again. Yeah it was in as campaign was a little bit different than the march eleventh. They were actually rained. Out that day there was supposed to play a game against the angels on the road and i actually on the way there and it was called off due to rain. So they turn round went back and they they. Everybody showed up on the morning of march twelve. They had a game scheduled against the dodgers. They didn't know if it was going to be played or not because that was in the in the wake of the nba shutting down and there were thoughts. I think it you know major league baseball wasn't going to be far behind but But days were all at hogan stadium on the morning of march. Twelve was another kind of gray morning. There were players Filing in and out of the clubhouse We did a couple interviews on the concourse. I talked to jake diekman. Tj mcfarland. He left handed relievers about the new three better. Minimum rural knows a story. That i didn't enough already had and And yeah there were guys kind of milling around Working out thrown await ball against the against the wall just waiting and then when the announcement came down Bob melvin came out of the clubhouse in and talk to a few of us on the concourse in part of his message was yeah. It seems like it's time to slow down there. There are things here that are happening. That are a little bit bigger than baseball. Obviously i don't think anybody at that point at least in in that setting really had an idea of what it was gonna turn into but Is definitely it was definitely a jarring moment and And yeah like you said we. I was going to hokum stadium for a couple of days after that We catch players in the only one that really talked to chris. Bassett starting pitcher. Who was loading up his truck to To drive back home to north carolina and he said basically. I don't know where we're going to get back together but it was. Obviously it was two and a half three and half months later. Everybody reconvening in july. So right now we're gonna hear from From the managers of both teams I bob melvin of the ace. then get kappler. The giants will will share their recollections of what happened in those those few days in in their thoughts on how baseball has has evolved over the last year while i was on my way to a game against the angels and as i was on my way there i got a text joe maddon game was cancelled so i think it was weather related though and then we go back. You know the first thing that stands out to me was the rudy. Gobert thing so we're watching that the more morning and i might have been the day before. I'm not sure but that's the first thing that stood out to me about okay. This thing could could get in here pretty quickly and then you know after that rain out the next thing was a meeting amongst our team felt like there was like a day awesome in the day after that it was done so it happened quickly. It was dramatic to think about. It felt ominous There was no time table for us to come back and is the days went on it. Got more and more ominous like are. We actually gonna play this year. I remember. I think it was march. Twelve you came out to the concourse hokum stadium. They were just a small group of us. Reporter standing sitting around and You talked for a couple of minutes. you basically said it's when it's time to slow down Just generally and i was wondering what was your sense of of sort of the scope of potential scope abyss. Yeah you is. I was saying that though in my mind i was like you know. I have to come out here and talk to you at a distance so foremost thinking to myself. This is ridiculous and then not only. Was it not ridiculous. The world changed. So those were my thoughts at that time. When i was when i came here for the first time in a half. Did talk to you guys at a distance. What was your biggest concern in the moment. Do you think when everybody was going their separate ways. We if we were going to be able to play nope we're gonna be able to play baseball at your let alone get spring training going again. So everybody went. It almost felt like the end of the season on you go home and you know it's gonna be quite a while before you know you detention get going again or if you get going at all and then you know it it becomes reality and then it just kind of fills you up and consumes you with you know now. This is not just about baseball. This is about life in general and in the safety for everybody in the world when you held that meeting or when the team held that meeting did you Sort of leave everybody with a message really not because there was so much uncertainty and in whatever you felt like saying or whatever your thoughts were could change on a dime and so we were just trying to leave it open you know stay closed for a while and you know we'll get back to you once. There's more clarity to the situation. We asked jake diekman the other day about his memories of a and he said that he was one of the players who thought that it wouldn't be such a long delay. The it might be a couple of weeks. I think at that point. It was at least a couple of weeks in. He died everybody. Who's gonna be getting together pretty soon. how would you best describe sort of the feeling in the clubhouse overall At i did it did feel like that was a possibility. And i think everybody probably had a different thought. You know But that's what i was hoping for but in the back of my mind i is the days certainly days when along. It did not seem realistic but at that time it was more hope than anything else. That's that's what. I was trying to be optimistic. And i'm trying to be old full that it might only be a couple of weeks but you know as the days went by after that it seemed like each and every day it seemed like it was gonna be a long shot a year later. How is how is baseball different. Well you know we. I think the fact that we went through a season went through the protocols and so forth Allowed us to be a little bit more comfortable. We came back testing now. It just feels like normal you test and you go out and do your thing it's It's a staggering of times it's staggering stretch times. You know it's really hard for me to to see multiple fields out there. Because you know there's a couple of things i need to see in a couple more that i can't see so you just try to pick what you think the most important thing now right now to to observe and then you get to the game and you know it's it's limited guys at the game too so it's more the structure in the workouts. That are still feel. Because you know with ryan were were put together schedules. Every day matt. Stewart the hard part. That's the one that i hope. At some point time goes back to normal where your whole team can team. Camaraderie is big and right now in spring training especially with all the new guys that we have. It's difficult for to get to know the guys in the fashion that you normally do routine in structure so sort of ingrained in the culture of baseball for you last season when you were going through the sixty game season what was the biggest the most jarring difference for your. Your routine is manager. It was it was hard every day it. There was never a day where you felt like i'm getting used to this. Because you know you're only coaching staff. You're you're allowed to get there six hours before where you're normally seven an on advanced as maybe even before that so. Every advanced day seemed rushed to completely routine yet to find a way to maybe work out. I started doing yoga my room and stuff on well beats or whatever too. So i did feel rushed. I got the ballpark. Because we are so routine oriented. And i'm off the charts routine oriented So that was the hardest part of it. Just just trying to slow your mind down to work you know. Once you got to the ballpark. You didn't feel like there was too much to do in too little time than and then early on say you win win on the road kinda got used to home because the summer camp and Being starting at oakland now went on the road. And you get there six hours before its advanced day. And now you you're buses pull up in the testing sites in a different place so the buses have to go around and find the place and now you feel like you really rushed and it was just hard the entire season defined any kind of routine at all. Are you still doing yoga. I did some Is not right now. No generally Maybe big picture not just baseball. How how has your perspective changed after year this well. I think everybody realizes when you look at the numbers that have accumulated that this is way bigger than sport. Sport is found a to integrate with this It's still hard. It's still risky But but all the sports have seemed to find some easier than others have found a way to continue to do this in in a in. Try to make a you understand. I think more so that we're entertainment value. You know when as a player you know. It's a sport it's competition fans in the stands. But now i think guys really took pride last year in that we could go back out there and be real entertainment value for a country. That was completely shut down and all you were watching sports wise. Were you know games from previous years. And you know that gets old after a while. And lastly a year later. Does it feel like Baseball's either edging back toward what you would consider familiar or normal or moving toward a new new type of normal levels but but hopefully we we wanna see fans in the stands. We wanna see pack. Ballparks whether or not that's feasible or not that's what we wanna see that's where you really gain the energy and and that was the thing that was probably most noticeable last year when when you were playing is you know. There's a certain sense of you gear up for a game. You go out there some nerves which are always good and then you go out. And there's no fans and all of a sudden it's a letdown and then you gotta find a way to to find some inspiration again. Will that will that. Be the sort of the harbinger. The signal of normal is when their fans in the building. Again i believe so and not just twenty percent. You know more. So than the twenty percents great. But everybody's looking for for more than that in hopefully with the vaccine. You know everybody's safe and everybody can come to gain ams and that's what everybody hopes for. We'll be back with john's interview. Giants manager give kappler on his memories of the shutdown. Right after this. And remember you can access oliver giants. Andy's coverage and much more with a subscription to the san francisco chronicle go to sf chronicle dot com slash podcast. That's sf chronicle dot com slash p. o. d. This episode is brought to you by comcast because of covid nineteen internet. Traffic has spiked but comcast is prepared. They've created a powerful network with one simple purpose to keep customers connected since twenty seventeen comcast has invested twelve billion dollars to grow and evolve a smart reliable network and now with many of us working learning and entertaining at home their coverage has helped millions of people stay connected when they need it. Most learn more at comcast dot com slash network gave. Could you reflect on a year ago. It was wednesday march eleventh and the giants were in surprise to play. The rangers in the game was called after five innings wet grounds and four of us. Were there reporters myself. And chris haft and carrie crowley mark sanchez and we had you know. Four of us had no idea what was to come. We're asking you about day starter. Which you were nice enough to say. It's johnny cueto and we were all giddy because we had some to ride with the headline on it. And you had no idea that you know we're hours away or day away from from shutdown but you you were about to enjoy the long awaited scheduled day off that thursday march twelfth but just curious on on your reflections going back a year. Yeah i remember that conversation about johnny cueto after the game feels like it always just yesterday. We wrapped up a pretty good game against the rangers and disgusted it. Just like you mentioned there was kind of exciting for me to announce Mike i opening day starter with giant than Obviously really important season at that point and we understood that we are in a time that we were going to need to be really careful. But i don't think anybody and really careful because of the virus but i don't think that anybody at that time was fully prepared for what was to come and i don't think anybody at that time. Thought that you know we were gonna shutting down. I one But i think what that moment did for all of us. The industry was demonstrated. How serious this much attention you did. And how we were going to need to be resilient stick together and really thorough guidelines protocols and and health. Take the verse which i think we did a really nice job of over the course of summer and even a after our spring training games today against every day we can pretty seriously and i think a year ago jumping off will. Do you remember where you were when you first either got notified or saw it on online or With with your phone or whatever Source you used to obtain that information or was it a phone call or how how and where were you Because obviously had to inform everyone to stay clear of scottsdale stadium and then it became clear. You know within a day or so that you know. We're not playing ball and eventually people started going on. Yeah i don't i so i just kind of me. I don't remember how that information got them. I assume it was via text message from from scott errors or or from far on Because at that point it would be my responsibility to inform our field staff and in our club So that that's my assumption. But honestly i don't remember it out commission. I can tell you what what happened. After which was a mac scrambled to make sure that we got information to all the parties that need live as soon as possible and we started making plans for You know what comes next and we knew that we wouldn't be playmate all anytime soon but we know how long the at that point so You know we knew that we weren't going to be playing baseball the next day that was for sure and and that ended up itself was enough of a surprise. I guess looking back at you. Pretty proud of maybe baseball. In general but more in particular the giants. How how you. As a franchise handled everything because it was so new to everybody. Yeah i am actually dog away to the giants handle things. I'm not proud of the way. The industry andro things. There are a lot of people Around baseball who felt strongly that we were gonna make it through mountains and I think there are people. And i remember talking to two national writers More in in just conversations and they were privy to alonzo The information from various clubs around the league thinking that we we work in a start back up at all and so and at every turn there there has been and continues to be a ton of uncertainty And so that's why. I think it continues to be so important that we continue to focus on health and safety protocols because we're just not out of the work and While it's really comforting to know that we have seen now that we can depend on and that we you know the johnson johnson. Dean is join moderna advisor. We're still we're still not out of the would that i think we ought the we continued to be. I don't want us to get overconfident. points I think we taken jews. Yeah we are a year moved To the day and in your mind how how has baseball change. i mean. that's a pretty broad question but might there be one or two elements in the game on your mind. That's a year ago you would have said. Wow i never could have imagined that yeah. I got a great question. I feel like we all mitt baseball the way we remember it and i think without need to the ballpark like it was a second home. And not coming to the ballpark peeling light. We have to be really careful because really A major league clubhouse if things but it's really a safe space for player players if the place to eat out the visit social. Hi to empathize plan to strategize and right now. It doesn't feel like it is those things now feels like a place on any yet worked on and get out as quickly as possible. And i think in particular i feel most for people around the game like wrong lords who really have come to expect the game to be a certain way when the ballpark and that it just doesn't bring down or many of us i don't you know ron others book myself. Included it bring day in rubble of dot action certainly It certainly feels great to compete. And i feel lucky. We all feel lucky the ballpark every day but it but it's not the same environment so that doesn't feel the same that one day i think that the biggest change that we're all we're all doing and hey i just can't start up that i know that we are all area very privileged position and that there are people who have been isolated away from their families In funky and in other cases not being able to to go to work and we are so lucky in block but it you octa question about what what they got the most different. Yeah that's a great plain but now we're closing in on Baseball twenty twenty one. And there's an expert expectation for better days and the hope is for one hundred and sixty two games unlike lascaux sixty but you know we. We know now. The fans will be at the ballpark oracle at least in limited numbers. And you're getting the team ready. These are the final weeks going in the season. Opener is not far off. What is your level of muslim as we move forward john as a very optimistic person in general so i think it had any turn. I'm like you know continued to have that. It's just natural for me. I think i got. I walked out for my dad who had a similar outlook. And you look forward to each day. So i gotta say i'm. That's that's naturally who i am in this particular case That delegated a little bit because we do have vaccines in place and You know people around the country and around the world are slowly getting back in which is creating a level of confidence that we haven't we haven't seen in a little while and i think there is a bit of a life like at the the end of the tunnel if we do things the right way Just having limited fans in the stands in spring training has been a huge boost to morale. We'd love having our fans in the stand and just gotta hearing the cheers when something goes well and sometimes even hearing the when thing And we missed that. We feel like we're in a partnership with fans and they are a part of our team many ways so we look forward to oracle park with fans and it got going to be pretty the mental moment for obviously everybody in the ballpark but for the fans in the pledge. Well this wonderful. Thanks so much gay bud. We're all rooting for normalcy. Or something close to it Good luck moving forward. Enjoy the chat. John is always. That'll do it for this. Joint episode of giant splash as plus our. Thanks again to bob. Melvin and gabe kaplan for joining us. Our producer g allen johnson and king kaufman. We'll be back soon with more giants and as coverage stay safe and thanks for listening.

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Tucker Carlson Accused of Sexual Misconduct; Is the New York Times Planning to Expose Where Carlson Lives?; Gabe Kapler Ready to Take a Knee; Boston Globe Has a Problem With Kids Playing Sports; Dr. Fauci Set To Throw Out First Pitch

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Tucker Carlson Accused of Sexual Misconduct; Is the New York Times Planning to Expose Where Carlson Lives?; Gabe Kapler Ready to Take a Knee; Boston Globe Has a Problem With Kids Playing Sports; Dr. Fauci Set To Throw Out First Pitch

"I Today on the Callahan podcasts well, it looks like they've finally got him the media. A the liberals they finally got took across and he's being named. In a lawsuit accused of sexual harassment. And it's not pretty is not gonNA say she She says she was tied down well, not really tied down her Mike. who was still clipped on and he told her that he was staying in a hotel. That's it man I. Think He may be done. We'll give you all the details of this. This wacky lawsuit suit against Tucker and Hannity by the way Also Boston Globe I in Florida kids are going to go back to school and go back to sports. The Boston Globe calls that criminal. Criminal. we'll tell you who's GonNa throw out the first pitch for the Washington nationals, and who is the I, woke Major League manager to take a knee. You'll not be surprised at all. We'll get an all that with the Tom Shattuck. I'm Jerry Kellyanne. This is the Callahan podcast brought to you as always by DC. You Digital Federal Credit Union. Loved your carbon hate your car payment. No problem refinancial cartoon DC you, and they could help lower your monthly payment, low interest rate, or both applying his easy and they loan experts will help you find a long term and the payment that fits in your budget. Get Out of that high rate loan and get the interest rate and the payment you deserve from. DC learn more and apply today at DC DOT org slash refinance insured by NC. Membership required. Okay. Let's do this. This is the Gerry Callahan podcast. So if you're if you're call, said, this is your life. Now you go on a whatever it was a four day location trout fishing. You come back and the New York Times is threatening to docks you I mean. I'm not surprised. They will do anything they will. They would stop it, and they will stop at nothing to destroy this man. He is the voice of the resistance as I pointed out to Jason Whitlock, he is pushing back anybody against the current uprising, the anarchy and so last night. He talked about it. We can get to that. The New York Times and their goons. Their friends chased him out of his last residence. And now he moved somewhere else and threatening to ducks him to publicize his address. They are not, but we know they are. They're gonNA. They've already taken pictures. Of where he lives, and they want to and I I believe this one hundred percent. They want to hurt him. His wife, his kids. They want to make their lives miserable because they dare. Dare criticized the. The the current movement, but there was also another story which got my attention and I'm I'm prepared to see this thing repeated over and over and over again for the next at least the next hundred four days. he's involved in a lawsuit unless you're seeing the shattuck, a woman, two women are Suing Fox News. Because they said one of them said they were raped by. She was raped by Henry. WHO's recently fired? But they also said they were harassed. By Hannity and Tucker so naturally. Say whoa this could be. This could be big. Let's be honest his predecessor. Bill O'Reilly. Wig Star until you know, the truth came out, and he was, and we learned he was a sexual Predator, and he a thirty million dollars to his victims, and he was gone and I'm thinking. Is this how it ends for Tucker? You know I mean these guys. Are you know they're Taipei Alpha Dogs? They're they're. They're some of them like apparently at Henry our animals. so. This first thing I get up this morning. I guess I say I gotTa get this lawsuit or get the details. And it's it's comical. I guess this is where it's going to be now. It's comical again. At Henry he's in trouble. They're accusing him of violent of you. Know Violence Sexual Assault. You! Have you seen what they're? What this one woman Abreo a radio used to. They used to call the Liberal Sherpa. Array you've seen what she's alleging yet. Tom Es I did by the way. Good morning just is to see you both set. Yes. I prefer. Solis savages as. I've on the name that'd be good name for podcasts. Solis savages. What do you think? The Tucker the Yeah. I have seen the allegation against him and it. It is unbelievable that even a lawyer would take that. And Put, his reputation on the line now is fantastic. He tied her down. Is what I understand? I always I could say this without hesitation I. Think People like Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes and apparently at Henry are despicable. I have never. come see I've never done anything like this. I can say it. I I can throw throw stones because I'm not living in glasshouse here I've never done what they have done I never would do that. I never can close to doing that. I mean it's. It's it's not something that I've ever experienced, and but this may be because the lawsuit. Have you seen it yet? Colony I've. Yup alleging that Tucker Carlson get ready for this. told the woman that he is staying in a hotel room. and. His wife and kids would not be there with him is. Right so social. He's having a conversation. He says yeah up in New, York for the Christmas party, or whatever meetings whenever he's up in New York for meetings and Christmas party and he said I'm in a hotel. I wife and kids are not with me, which is, why would you bring your wife and kids? If you know for a night New York? If you're working anyway, that's it as far as I could tell I just read the whole complaint. Hannity is I guess a little worse Hannity through one hundred dollars. He loves to show off his money. He's he always. Promising to pay for things. If you watch the show, he's always saying I'll pick up the TAB or donate to charity your name, and all that he almost as proud of his his paycheck, because he is of his skill as a Ju Jitsu Warrior. He's a very skilled A. Martial arts. He hundred bucks on the table and said who wants to take her for a date. I guess that's inappropriate. It's dumb. They're they're not. I. Think the Liberals out there who are trying to bring down Fox trying to bring down? Hannity and Tucker are going to be really disappointed when they get to this complaint I don't know what else. I would also think that. Especially after Roger Ailes and and they've said this right. They do these they do these outside investigations all the time now, and you would wanNA protect shows like or at least do as much investigating as humanly possible on shows on Tucker Carlson John Handy because they're such behemoths, so you WanNa have information at your disposal. And they came out right away and said that all of their outside investigations nothing has come up so. In something very something very real and and. Came up with, them, With Henry and they got rid of him. You know in a and then they dumped him. He's he's in trouble. He's in big trouble. I'm not sure. What were the criminal complaint lives here? But the the certainly sounds like trouble in civil court. And he's not employable anymore Henry was. Big Star, but he was on. He was on in the morning. He was in a had a get a good job. High Profile job. He's done. His life is over. His professional career is over. There is no. Bouncing back from this, if I l looking over Eilly O'Reilly's like doing a daily commentary from his You know from his basement somewhere, trying to recapture his old audience, he's he's not going to happen. He's done and he should be what he did. I I always wonder that when I hear people like. He, he goes on Hannity on the radio. He goes on with you. Know in Boston goes on WR KO. Occasionally I'm thinking. You guys know what exactly O'Reilly is. Alleged to have done I mean it's not. It's not telling someone your hotel. I don't listen, are do they? Still run that like? O'Reilly minute shadow nine, I'm not sure, but I've heard them on with. A couple of different shows I'm pretty stupid, but I'm not stupid enough to run a riley minute. That is insane. But here's the thing. Is it Carlson? The details of what Carlson is alleged to have done is she literally accused him the crew of forcing her to stay on the set in tying her to the chair. User Carlson's tech crew, according to the the court filing refuse to Undo Miss Arroyo's equipment onset. Therefore, she could not leave the chair in other words she had Mike On. You know a lovely Mike, or whatever that's called in. And they refused to at the crew came over and said Hey, can you stay to the end of the show? Tucker wants to talk to you. And they didn't undo her Mike, so she said that she was essentially bound handcuffed to the chair. He then changed his clothes after the show. And literally what that means here is that he took off his blazer and put on a leather jacket. And that's it. I mean this. Here here is the contention from Ms Array. She says The Qasim was hardly making an effort to hide. His intentions telling Miss era that he'd be alone in New York City that night, and specifically that it'd be staying alone in a hotel room without wife and kids without question, suit says Mr. Carson was probing to see whether Miss. Array, you was interested in a sexual relationship Miss Array awkwardly sidestep Carlson's advances and declined to spend the night in his hotel room. This doesn't even say that he asked her to. It doesn't say that he says that he told her he was alone in the city without his family being hotel. That's now grounds for a civil lawsuit that that is that. Is Tucker comfortable life I guess. I guess he's going to get used to it. He's a big deal and they will do whatever X. to bring him down, but. That's it. He told her he'd be alone. New York City. That's it. Does he say he asked her to? Right and if you know had to spend two and a half years ago, had this been the middle of the Harvey? Weinstein, stuff. Maybe he could have gotten him, but we've moved on now. We're to you know race penalties, so the the days of automatically being taken down by allegations are are over for now. Maybe they'll come back. It matters if if there's any utility in using it against the president, then they will definitely come back. By this is just it. Just craziness in the Hannity has fought these things off before I mean some of these guys, you know our dogs I heard stuff about a riley for years and years. That was somebody who was at the Super Bowl within the I pat super bowl. I think actually when they won. And and and bill was enjoying himself. And you know this guy is in this guy who to very much enjoy themselves. In show business, but there is a certain amount of stupidity to the idea that that Tucker's game would be to do it. In front of everybody in front of the crew at center, as well doesn't make any sense I've never heard that about him I've heard that he has a sense of humor like George H W, Bush which is a very blue sense of humor. But it's just. It's just crap the mean. I'm doing in dachshund trying to. Get to that this. Is this unbelievable again? I say Thomas said again. Anyone who bought? Supporting you know this kind of this kind of action their support. It's not a newspaper. It's just an arm of the UH the hard. They're not. They're not covering the news. They're literally threatening to ruin his life. Story about where we live is slated to run in the paper this week. Editors there know exactly what will happen to my family when it does run I, call them today and I told them, but they didn't care. They hate my politics. They want this show off the air. If one of my children gets hurt, because if a story they wrote they won't consider it collateral damage. They know it's the whole point and exercise to inflict pain on our family to terrorize us to control what we say. That's the kind of people they are. Telling. scrum killing them all here's. Where HIS TUCKER LIVES? Go get him. Right in this has been since the revolution in times newsroom about a month ago. They've made it very clear that they feel unsafe by the presence urban people, and so they feel that Tucker has made his put their lives in peril, and so they're mobilized against him in. There's a direct correlation academia politics. These activists media people in thugs on the ground with antiga other actors like that, so yeah, they're. They're motivated to go after them. They've gone after before going after his family before they've gone after his daughter in a restaurant as well these. These entitled Wellesley Middle-class. College the same all these white middle-class people who look like ace of base in yellow black cops. You know they feel entitled to. You know unleashed whatever violence they can on on people because they're at war because they went to, they spent sixty thousand dollars at bu and their professor told him to in critical theory studies classes. And so it's frigging dangerous, but. The only time we'll hear about it is of course when somebody protects tooker from these people or the. Please take them away. Then we'll hear about the the militarized place, and how they were too rough and cracking down on these on these thugs who wanNA destroy lives. It's it's happening I'm you saw the the couple who had the machine guy wanted? Machine Gun is by the PISTOLA couple of weeks ago when the writers were walking through, their neighborhood had broken down the gate. US people are going to go to jail very possibly. No, I mean it is. It is frightening we'll get to. Because to me one of the scariest thing. Let me, just double. Check you check with you. You're getting feedback from me here. Comments Yeah, you're definitely get. Grab your headphones if you cut. I I. I I thought he found him getting anything. But you know the more I think about this New York Times saying the more it's. Just, totally scary. How the people inside inside just? Totally caved in now that the now you've got kids twenty six year old. You Know Jay school kids who are now making the editorial decisions, and so they've scared out people. We talked about last week Barry Weiss. They turned away. Oddly you know and I would say oddly tongue-in-cheek it. It seems to be a lot of a lot of Jewish. Writers seemed to be chased out of these institutions these days in the pilloried high profile by Pie all sorts of other people in the mainstream into professional athletes, and they never have to pay the price and look for that to become a bigger problem. It's already been something that's been. Stifled by the near the Very New York Times you know that's doing this. That just purged. Another Jewish writer is the New York Times that is very reluctant to report on antisemitic crimes in the streets of Newark, but it's happening left and right and yet, and you'll see how do I. Sound Dasani better s perfect. You sound perfect. To me I'll if you were to go to. 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Let these scumbags just let them run wild, and for fifty three straight nights they've destroyed businesses and homes and terrorized taxpayers and the mayor, and all the all the mayor's saying. We're not GONNA stop. You have had go at it and they'll have at it now. We're not GonNa, snap you and what's coming up media Jerry from CNN in from the New York. Times about what's happening right now. Important the story you're hearing. Is that unnamed unmarked federal law enforcement are kidnapping people that. Federal law enforcement who are in charge of protecting federal buildings, just like the the. In Boston Massachusetts or any other federal building. You know they don't have name tags on because they're getting docks by these thugs who are trying to destroy the buildings. And and they don't have mark cars, 'cause you. What do you think these ANTIFA? goons would do a Marc car or van I mean they're trying to do their job. This amazes me shattuck. This amazes me a Senate. Two three months ago and ever the started. You know so two months ago. I said everybody universally. Everybody condemned the killing of George. Floyd correct everybody everyone on every side of the everyone. No one has any sympathy or support for Derek chauvinist in prison living in in hell and and good for good. That's good. That's what he deserves. Why can't we universally condemned and teeth? But why can't we condemn riding? How does the mayor of a city have any sympathy for lease lawless? These these anarchists who were destroyed the city. He's elected to serve I. Don't understand. Where the serpent comes from I, mean I I know what you're talking about staedtler. stelter on CNN Brian Stelter the human potato. He's going on, said Oh. It's an exaggeration. A Fox News is is is making us all up. A Don Lemon and Chris. Cuomo giggled about it said Oh. Yeah our. Burn. And if you are on twitter if you're following the news if you're not getting your news from the New York, times or Boston Globe. See it every day every night. These mask thugs are. They're trying to burn down the courthouse. They try every night Portland. If you're not following this Guy Andy No Andy Ngo on twitter you must. He gives you live reports. He gives you video. Every night of the of the anarchy, Portland and Seattle and other places, but they're. They're trying to burn down federal buildings every night in Portland and the mayor. Portland is saying we don't want any more police. We don't want any more federal agents in Ed help, go home, literally get lost. They're trying to protect your city I. Don't I'm I'm at a loss as to why there is not more than a condemnation, not why not? Why not universally condemned by everybody? How is it the Democrat mayor or a politician says? This there on our side, the people destroying lives destroy buildings cars there on our side. Who wants them right? Why would you WANNA take ownership? Align yourself with these awful people. They hate this country. They had capitalism. They're trying to destroy it. That's it condemn them. Put them in jail. Anybody. In Your Life Shattuck. I know you know you don't have a lot of friends, but you have some friends. Do you have. Do you know anybody that thinks? That supports that sympathizers that aligns themselves with mtpa. No no I do know people who have who are close to me. Who are younger in their twenties who have gone to Ivy League schools who believe that free speech is violence, though and that there are attack there to. Attack In their own universities and that their attack in the in the workplace they feel that engineering fields are full of rapists and this. So this is there is a string to be made here. There's a connection to be made. And when this person is unemployed, three years from now, and some of these people have guy friends in his son does tail in if he's unemployed a few years from now, and he wants to do something with his life well, why not be part of something important? So he can be a cool jihadist and throw a brick and a cop and input facebook in feel good about himself like he did something because he's got no real reason to be right now, but you know you talk about mayors I know if a mayor who was so afraid of being called him effort from a Wacko, racist. And he implored up. Please stop calling me that. Please stop claiming I'll give you. A building, said Marty Walsh. He gave this person a building. This is craziness I. Mean this happens this with Monica Cannon Grant here in Boston these she's not alone. There's an industry folks at that level who are working and award essentially holding a gun to the heads of the elected leaders who are no. No problem especially, if you look like Marty, Walsh and you know that your demographic is going the way of you know. Who's the guy the old Congressman Capuano you know you're about to be Capuano very sane, and you are no problem but i. do you think when you see? The antiques scum with the masks in the hoods and they're throwing. Bricks are those voters. They're not voters, the people who own the businesses or work in the businesses or being destroyed, being Riley city their voters. That's what I. Don't understand How are we allowed to get to this point that the city's a run by the radicals and they're not well run. They're poorly run and it it to me. See like Seattle and Portland for example used to be. Considered I've been to Seattle Bunch of times I haven't been to Portland and I would never will go there, but right now. You know there's an office in Seattle and Portland. It's the office of Tourism and their job is to get people to come to the city. That person is at person like given up and just gone home and said it's over. We're never going to get anyone to come here. Were a canoe magin trying to somebody considering opening a business in Portland or Seattle opening a whatever a pet grooming business or a or coffee shop they they don't have many of those You would never ever do that. They have ruined Amazon own Seattle and. Crash the other day and the and the destroying. Amazon An. Idiot Chasing Amazon out there, putting heads on the always of Amazon already, so you have to pay special tax just for being part of Amazon, which seems discriminatory itself, but yeah, then you hear you hear, we could play wheeler the that mayor and Portland to get I mean. He literally says get out of my city to federal agents and the federal agents are looking at them. Sent what you want. You're on the side of those guys. Those guys who are breaking windows smashing. Store fronts and and then they blamed trump understand. It's all about defeating trump's and you want to keep this going, but doesn't it feel like at least in my lifetime that they'll never recover that Seattle and Portland will never recover. You're going to have this perception that they are run by. The the inmates are running the asylum and you wouldn't WanNa go there. You don't WanNa. Get near this. Just keep. It'll stay. Keep your distance and let them you know. Eat each other alive. Yeah I don't know if you've been to Seattle Jerry, but it's built on a set I've been there. Many many I went to went on vacation. We liked it so much. We went there and. Walk the streets and eight. Around city when you were their. SATS! Seattle is built on the original city. They built on land. Well undoubtedly and. But. Say Seattle at the turn of the century the Old City was there, and they built a new city on top of it, so parts of the Old City are still underground with roads and little store old storefronts. It's really pretty cool, but at this point they should they. Should you know fire up? The Old City, the underground city, because at least it's still intact more than. than the city above ground, you can't have please tape around six blocks of your city. That's in smoking embers and pretend it's not there I, mean it sticks it sticks out, and this is self imposed in London. There's one you know one block where the German blitz destroyed the buildings, and they've kept that just like that, so people can remember well Seattle's the same thing though but. You know upper middle class. College pukes. Who torched their own city? While civic leaders stood by, and you're right. You Got you know Chris Cuomo laughing about laughing about the rising crime rate, saying how crimes really up now. Up Two hundred three hundred percent murders are up in every major city in the country right now and his brothers on a victory tour celebrating the fact that. Three thousand people are dead because he forced sick people into seniors centers. Been Scrap is upside down. I said this the other day it was shaddock, but it's the worst case of media bias of that that I've ever seen the coverage of Andrew Cuomo. I mean literally he has killed thousands of senior citizens, and if you follow the right people on twitter, look in the right. You know websites you'll get the truth, but otherwise you have people saying what a wonderful job he's doing. It's it's upside down world. It's backwards. You're talking about a governor who literally sent these seniors citizens to their death? He he he caused her death, he put, he insisted on putting corona virus, positive patients in nursing homes and wipe out nursing homes, thirty, three, thousand dead. No one's even close. No one no state. No one else is even close and yet you have people you. Put about Jimmy Fallon laughing with him, and telling him what a wonderful job! You had this eightieth Ouchi and we'll get to him. Say New York I had to listen to this I two three times and read it. Found she commending Andrew Cuomo for the good the job. He's what. I mean. It's not that complicated. There was a jab at center that was ready to house thousands of patients. He said now we're good. There was a ship in the harbor. Equipped for ten thousand patients said not. We're good. We're going to send them back in a nursing homes, and the result was at least six thousand dead. Because of his decision, his signature is on the order, and he denies it and the media says you know he's done a wonderful job. Mean it's nauseating and he's going to get reelected. He's going to be around forever just because he has a D.. Just because he has d. next to his name, he's going to get away. Get Away with murder. Literally get away with murder, but back to your point about the The auditory cities are. The other thing I don't quite get his the defunding police movement. If you're Biden, this is this is bad news. Terrible News, ardy greed, despite what Chris Wallace says your Guy Chris Wallace. He wants to defend the police. Trump was right Chris smalls was Bronco. He has said he said in that interview with that guy who's who's paralyzed? You see the interview with the guy in the wheelchair did with Biden from the basement he said yes. We want to fund the police. In New York. since we've defended the place, shootings are up two hundred fifty three percents over last year at this time. ARRESTER are down sixty two percent. Minor crime summonses down eighty six percent and this check this went out traffic tickets down seventy six percent, and not even given tickets anymore because. been this is since. The blasios that Moron and and Cuomo and others in new. York said we need to defend. Police redirect the funds to social workers, or whatever crime up now can you tell me who it even among Democrats? Who is in favor of this? WHO supports this I don't I. Don't understand why. You would think that's a good idea. Well defunding the police I. Think. I think. Everybody, you know. Half of the population of Wakefield Massachusetts and melrose mass and winter stern. Wellesley right now think that. At least the slogan is something important, and you have people literally into Small Town Council. Alderman and things trying to change pleases budgets to sanction them. It's part of punitive. Reconciliation. But tell me this. How does it help? Like you think police? Obviously, you got idiots out there. Talking about police brutality like this is some echo epidemic, or you know systematic racism systemic racism will get to Gabe Kaplan that pandering PUKE talking about systemic racism so limit I don't know twenty percent of the cops. Than New York you eliminate the plant close cops, which is what the main reason crime has soared. They get rid of all the plank clothes cops. How does that like eliminate police brutality? Aren't there? You're still going to have bad cops, even though you don't have as many cups. What does that change anything other than make it easier to commit crimes. Well I mean so. This is what the two stories I've heard of why the police need to be funded our this. These are both from activists. Won The police never come when you call them? And the other one is. The police are always there too much in in interacting like jerks with people in the community. So, none of the none of the situations are that they place are called. Because there's crime in the community and that there's you know. Unfortunately. It's such a family breakdown. Generations of young men with nothing better to do than commit crime for to make living or for recreation. You know it's. It's just an easy scapegoat. They're wearing a farms trucks and I'm telling you. This is not buttons worst nightmare, but when you think about it if he ever comes out of the basement, is ever an actual press conference in his ever debate. God forbid yesterday debate. This will be the thing trump hammers over and over, and he should meet like I said with Chris Wallace Chris. Wallace wants to impress everyone by being. Being the toughest of your trump, and he said Oh no Biden and say fund the police. Yes, he did, and even even if he didn't all his supporters saying it is adviser. Is Official Adviser AFC says. We're not talking about cutting funding. We are talking about abolishing cops. She is going to come back to bite him in the ASS. which might like a you know a lot. We watch as budding snifter here yet by the way 'cause they haven't spent a lot of time together but I soon when they do, he'll sniffer hair, and that that'll be a hell of a photo op, but she says over and over and I give her credit. She does not hedge. Get rid of all cops, so you grow this. I tweeted the sixty million plus. At least sixty million people will vote for a guy who wants to defend the police who does not condemn the anarchists who? That's that is Joe Biden A. The front runner right now. A good chance. That, he is president in January and he wants to defend the police. I mean on top while the other crazy stuff on top of. The green new deal and everything else. It's just mind boggling. Understand I understand people hate. Trump but when you look at the violence when you look at the anarchist deluding. You told me sixty million people are going to say I'm voting for the same. I'm supporting the same guy they are. Maybe in the problem is the problem. Is this and I hope people understand this that Joe Biden's elected there will be no. There will be no wall against the influence of these anti-police Nihilist, anarchist. There's somebody in Biden's campaign called Sarah Pearl. She just a couple of days ago called the police pigs. And said PA-, Pinterest, sweet and intelligent police officers. Monsters don't deserve to be called a pig. So people like this are going to be. The rearguard are going to be the people who are supposedly protecting Biden. From negative influence, so she's a positive influence, and if you have somebody like Monica Cannon, grant who makes demands of Biden it's going to be the COP hating guard. Who let Monica right in to be a somebody who influences the campaign? The administration it end. Some of this whacking is actually does get caught into law he's he's. Biden has never shown that he's got a political opponents life. He's Never Sloan. And it's true. The most frightening thing is the people around him. He's obviously just to the east. Just upon he doesn't have a conviction, he doesn't have A. A coaching pot left in his head split. He's going to be and we've seen. He's going to be dragged around literally by his wife and. Who will be USING HIM TO VASSAR gender? He's going to I, mean he? He's on record as saying he wants to eliminate fossil fuels. This is Joe. The Monitor it wants to eliminate fossil fuels but yesterday. Every day there's something else and and obviously the media will be there to cover it up, not cover to cover it up or to ignore it. He met with Linda Says Sword noted it semi relapse. Yes, he met with any promised Sunday one. I mean obviously it's whatever zoom meeting. He'll be if you know, there's a vaccine or God forbid he wouldn't want that, but he would be campaigning with people like Linda Sore and retreated to leave nealon. Omar, and Jewish people. You know friends of mine and yours Jewish Democrats will go on both for a guy. Who is a making appearances with Linda says sore that blows my mind, but he said this yesterday honest to God. Quote. One of the things I think is important I wish we taught more in our schools about the Islam faith. What? He thinks we need to teach this I mean. Magin. Could you imagine a presidential candidate Democrat or anyone saying we need to teach more about the Christian faith and our public schools I mean he'd be mocked and ridiculed, and it'd be. You know ACLU be threatened lawsuits. He said that yesterday I don't know if we can play the sound day, but he said we need to teach more about Islam in our public schools. Yup I anchor. Enough for all you've done so far. That's for a whole lung. Hold on one second. Linda says to right here. Go ahead, One of the things I think is important. I wish I wish. We taught more in our schools about the Islamic faith I wish we talked about all the great confessional faces. It's one of the great confessional face and what people don't realize is one of my avocation. Is the allergy don't realize. Is that we? We all come from the same root here in terms are fundamental basic belief. We thought more about the Islam faith in our schools. What a lazy pander though I mean. More out of him than that. Here's what I always say. I know you thought the the Chris Wallace. Trump was like performance art you appraising it your and the great thing. Trump was uncomfortable. Obviously, they had their little It was tense. It was hot. It was outside. But no matter what trump said no matter what he how he looked view. He has one thing going for him is. Biden won't do that in abide won't sit down with Chris. Walter anybody unless it's one of sock puppets. You know like he's not going to sit down with someone who's even close to middle of the road or a right wing or whatever they're not. He's not going to be challenged at all. L.. You're suing now. Just nobody's paying attention to. That's what I've been saying for weeks, but it seems to me that it's working. He's. Talking about right now. Our kids going back to school. That's all the focus in the world, right? Good which is a great issue, another great issue for trump I mean he's got A. Hammer wet that two things. He's got a hammer wet. The Anarchists Biden he's GonNa. Say! Mtpa Blm all these people. They're with him in there with him. I'm with mccloskey's. He's got to say the other thing is. He's got to say. Our kids have to go back to school, but again just to finish up on Biden and this and this lazy pander, which is a good description of it. Is He's GonNa. Get so comfortable having you know his people around him who are sucking on his toes and telling him he's wonderful. He's going to let his guard down like he did yesterday. My opinion say we should teach Islam in public schools and he's GonNa say if I screw up, you know the media will be there to cover for me to cover it up. I. Don't have to worry. He's not going to be in game shape if he ever gets around to leave in the basement. He expect more of these softballs. And they're going to if they ever get a chance that the two or three. Reporters who are out there were left. Are GonNA say? You know question for you. Do you really want to get rid of fossil fuels? Do you really want to teach Islam? D really you know support. ANTIFA. He wasn't even ask that when he did that. One press conference which was again. So he was surrounded by sycophants, he wasn't even asked. Do you support the this movement right now? We're sure in our cities to fund. The cops get rid of the COPS and to. Destroy Businesses. He wasn't even asked about that. Which is the biggest issue in the campaign? If there ever is a campaign well, if somebody asks you, can you imagine if a reporter ask that question? I mean if you're a potential voter. If you're a democratic voter in, you, say I have concerns about you taking away a AR, fifteen's Biden will say that you're full of Shit in threatened to take you outside fight you physically. That's where voters hero female voter. He'll call you. A lion dog face pony something. If you guess that you've been to caucus before the call you fat. If you ask, another question doesn't like I talked to Joel pollock yesterday from Breitbart last year. He issue with by the crowd saying hey. you know trump didn't say there were people both very find people on both sides. Biden gotten is facing. The finger was right there in his face and they don't you. Know. If anybody dares, and that's going to be interesting to see because it's going to happen eventually trump's GonNa do keep doing these things where he's. Talking to media for hours at a time and short. It's GonNa look ugly to a Lotta. People who hate him. A lot of people who are used to Orthodox politicians are GONNA. Say No. The guy doesn't have any chops, but eventually it's going to smoke by now. Somebody's gotta put on a show for him. Much like they tried to the last time around with Hillary. who had our own health issues? Eventually? You're going to take header in front of people I heard someone saying that last night. One of the shows that Hillary was terrible candidate. She was an and buds much more likable and I'm like okay good. That's fine likable. You don't have a beer with the real job, but. What about you know the guy that woman standing next to him Linda Sore. elsia Rasheed had to leave. You know what about? What about the The allies you have to. Answer for that. You know you have to own that I mean I'm not sure who's GonNa. Make him do that. Chris Wallace would if he would sit down with with with him, he would get a CO, two or three tough questions, even though Chris Wallace I. Think is is rooting for him, but the other big issue, obviously the lawlessness anarchy, and whereby standards on that to. To align himself with the inner city mayors who are destroying these cities because they hate trump so much are those guys you know is? Is that that that clown Jacob Fry of fray and Minneapolis or the Sky Wheeler into Portland of those are those you support them? Because they don't want you know they don't support cops. They don't want federal agents. They don't WanNa end this. This this unrest, they wanNA keep you going. Are you with them Joe, but the other one and gull brought it up, is it? It's a huge issue today and it's going to remain that way for the next six weeks is. You know. Is School I mean most. Parents I know you've seen it, but this priceless. Video audio from Msnbc who clearly wants to keep the lockdown going forever or at least till November fourth? L. L. Hard left Democrat. They want to keep this going. Because it hurts trump. They don't care about kids. You know they'll would kids. Kids are collateral damage. But they had four five pediatricians on. They went around the panel said. Would you send your kids back to school? And every one of them said absolutely without hesitation, and then it went back to the anchor. The MSNBC Guy and he was like shocked. They all said yes. Of course, pediatricians going to send their kids back. Of course anybody who cares about their children and you have like twelve them. You really want them back in school, don't you? Of course, of course you know India I'm we talked to parents all the time and they are rip bleep about. These unions, the unions making the decisions. The unions drive this discussion. They still want. These teachers want to go to school, but still get paid. Everybody else is going to work everybody else who has a job here has to go to work. You know all of the other I keep getting told that the kids are our most precious natural resource. What they tell me well. This natural resource, the most precious one is going to be harmed, and some will die, according to pediatricians and we are told healthcare professionals are the most noble people on the face of the earth. So for sex. Get in the schools. Teach the kids, or you stay in a little monitor in the front of the class and have some you know Teacher's aide twenty to do the physical things, but how yes, in trump needs to get. Get right beside these pediatricians and being the side of. He needs to learn how to do set up an optics in optics. performance like Obama will do get people in lab coats. Get little kids around, and you know in. Never leave them have them. He should go on a kid tour. You know he's got it enough. It is amazing to me that the if I guess. Again parents aren't following the news like we are, but there's one thing that trump and anybody on his side should hammer away at. Teachers Unions Teachers Union as the Los Angeles Teacher's Union. said. They're making demands. They're making two principal demands before they will come back to work. They want the city to fund the police. To Fund, the police and The their other demand of something to do with the hating trump or something they. They will come back because they care so much about kids. They wanted to fund the police. They won't come back. To to work they still to get paid obviously, and as you point out for three months now. Cops and firemen and nurses and doctors, and and you know clerks at Home Depot and Pizza places. They've all gone back to work. It's risky. Let's be honest. It's risky, but they've gone back to work uber drivers, and you know you name it. People have gone back to work, but their masks so whatever teachers a special? They don't have to go back to work, because because why. Because orange man bad if if trump weren't the president if the president were Hillary Clinton that I'll be going back. They know there's this a zero chance. Zero chance affects the kids. The kids are much much more. negatively affected by a lockdown, but saying at home than they would be about going to school. There's no risk for children none. In what no it but they. Demand that they don't go back. You know if you don't want your kids to go back. Home and Homeschool, but their kids who depend on it. The parents work that depend on it for. For just interaction, they depend on for for lunch now. They need to go back magic angle. He's in in Aden actually mentioned this. That's the angle. He's gotTa take. He's gotTA. Say the most disadvantaged kids need not only the early morning meals. Let the schools will provide two kids. We're told you know Bernie. Sanders ran on this. We're told that kids are malnourished, so kids or schools early and get those early morning. Meals and kids need to be able to stay in school late, so they're not on the streets getting shot, and this is exactly what trump should be saying. It also, if you're a teacher and you don't want to go back to school because of the coronavirus well, you can be something else just couldn't get another job the fact that that they've pushed the arguments so far that these teachers are entitled. They're all entitled to that. As if they have tenure. None of them are no just code something else. We'll find some people. And you know if the needs to highlight this because it is really. Exposing these teachers unions I mean they can't turn around and set a care for kids, because when they're making demands about defunding the cops and the other the other demand I should've remembered another another way. They really want to help our children. They're demanding the elimination of charter schools. The elimination Los Angeles teachers will not go back to work until you defend the police eliminate charter schools. Now you tell me Mrs. You know an elementary school teacher. Union in. Loyal Union member. How does that help kids? How does the funding cops and eliminating charter schools help kids? The answer is it does not which you can come to. No other conclusion is then they don't care about kids. The care about one thing above all others herding trump, and and this will in longer. You could keep kids out longer. You can keep lockdown going the panic going they occasionally slip up like when they have a pediatrician on who's a apolitical or even liberal in the future should says of course I'd send my child back eve. There's only two reasons you WANNA kid keep kids. One would be just ignorance. You still think that you know a ten year. old is susceptible to the virus. They're not he's not They're much more threatened by. The old flew in on. The flu is a much is like four times greater chance. They get the flu than they get the coronavirus. They will not get it. They will not transmit transferred. They will not die. Die From it the teachers if they're old or obese, don't come to work okay. I'll give you that stay home if you're older obese, but if you're thirty seven year old, you know elementary school teacher. You're not in any danger either. You belong in the classroom. If you don't want to teach, quit, you're right quint. You're pilloried if you mentioned the flu alongside Corona virus in. In the last few months, but now if you look at the numbers, numbers and Florida, even where there has been a surge of new cases without telling people that there's been a surge of new tests if you look at Arizona where we were told a couple weeks ago, Arizona's now the model for how to do it wrong because it was spreading through whereas on the virus. Virus is all getting largely irrelevant now in Arizona, the also fatalities down their treatments that are working including the baffling turn the patient over treatment there other therapeutics that are working people are surviving this thing. There's a chance that the virus itself has mutated to be less deadly so just on the numbers. The Pouch numbers that we were given at the beginning of this whole thing. We're starting to become out of the woods largely in for I know that you're not allowed to say that, but the number show the spike, and then it goes down I bought a poster. The other day got one for you from owning it shows the number and the long tail, or the tail is now way down. And so. To have the case now that these kids are more susceptible to harm being schooled in out, it doesn't work and that's starting to turn. It's a lie. It's a lie. That's what it is I'd say. It's live from the Teacher's Union to live from the Democrats. They they know again. They're either ignorant, or they're dishonest there the dumber the dishonest. Dishonest, you know, give him some credit. They're not the following the news. They know that this survival rate for kids of for even for teachers. If they're not older, obese is miniscule. There is more risk driving to work in the morning. There's more risks walking across the street and they and more risk of dying from the flu. They know this yet. They think the best way to beat trump as cheap this going. Let's not. Let's not let up here. Let's remain panicked. Let's remain at home My parents don't know this right. Again, rid? Ignorant a dishonest, so you vote for ignorant? I'm just saying that parents don't necessarily want to send their kids back to school and be part of that basically is an experiment to apparent right to my sister's specifically sending our kids back in an experiment to her because she just doesn't. Because, she doesn't know all the data that surrounds a print. Some ouch handed tour I read. Some pointed to a grownup. You're an adult. You're a parent. You have the responsibility to inform yourself. She has to understand I mean. Does she think it's good for kids to stay home for another six months? It definitely does not think that. Fear for and think she's one of you know obviously a lot of people around the country who don't know all the information. She should be educating yourself more more, but what she's hearing on. The news is just more important to be. There's older kids. They are seven and eight. K, there is zero chance of seven or eight year old gets. There's zero chance they die from it this zero chance they transmit it. If she reads up, she would understand that her kids belong in school. This is a this is political. Feeder is what it is. She she should you know follow the she on twitter? Give her a couple of twitter problems out on twitter. She's on. The activities, a couple of guys out there every day who are trying to inform the public and the idea that a seven or eight year old has to worry about the more danger of the you know of polio right now. Dan gave fever. They're not going to get corona virus. It the idea that you're going to stay home in another semester they should all be back. They never been out in the first place. It is nuts is. Political it is, this is so diabolical in my opinion, they know they know there's no risk. They're pretending because it hurts Donald J, trump right, but there's you made a point. In It's worth revisiting talking about they. WanNa get rid of charter schools. Charter schools oftentimes are the only escape minority kids have from their hord public school systems. You only chance. They have to incrementally improve their lives and get on a path to success in escape the conditions that we've all been drawn attention to between that and getting rid of the school this year where parents now have to stay home in this already affected the people in the black community more where you. You don't have the services to for the kids to get an early to eat to stay in after school between that and the cities burning in law enforcement, abandoning cities because of these progressive mayors in the crime rates, arising in people flying leaving cities now people are leaving new. York and moving unfortunately up in the boonies where I am now in leaving Boston moving up here where I am now. What you had is ironically twenty. Twenty is the worst year for black, Americans. For decades, this is the most well intentioned liberals and all everybody. Well intentioned armed I'm tired of that. They're not well intentioned. They're liars. They're dishonest deceitful. They know defunding the police. Olympic Charter schools is not only. you know it's racist. It's racist. I mean. The COPS, intercity kids and families and single mothers and eliminated charter schools who gets hurt the most the rich kid, no, the rich white kitten suburb, no, the black kid in the city team union thugs are racist, plain and simple, but anyway well. If you go just simply by the outcome then, yes, you'd have to say that if you say it's damaging in particular to a to a specific race. Yes, but parents Dover Massachusetts for them this whole summer simply been the bunch of facebook posts where they're showing what good people they are. They get to know you don't forget. They have a black lab madison the front yard to not. That that matters, and and they have a hate. Hate has no home here. That's the other side and their lawn exact. One hundred percent against hate. They hate cops. Don't hate private school a. School choice and charter schools. But they don't have they don't have any hate in their heart there so so. If I if I were you and had a kidney elementary school, who was the poss-, possibly going to be home in September and October I would be irate. That would be ready to I'd be ready to go all and teeth or not. Throwing bricks is such, so they are using children. Children are just pawns in this in this political game it it is, it is criminal. Jerry you're still paying property taxes. You know I sure am. That's right, so you're paying on cops. I'm happy. For the schools to be opened Dave, you're paying I'm paying for the schools to be opened where paying for empty schools right now where a janitor just gets to walk around and watch TV. In. It's incredible and they still want to do this and you're right. This is such a disservice I mean the. White Americans leatherback black community so much that they're happy. Chickens stomach is as they can to show how much they love it. I mean this has been this year has been just terrible that condition of a the the Black American condition after twenty twenty will be worst when we're question and think of it The guy who's the front runner will possibly be president and six months. Doesn't want the kids go back to school, but but if they do, he wants to make sure they learn all about Islam. That's where he's at right now. He wants he wants the Department of Education to be run by somebody. Who does how it is to be a teacher. Who's got that kind of experience so a good unionized Eurocrat? You know simply codifying more union regulations in the admitted it in the education system, which is already terrible, you know. Your kid and Detroit your chance. Of whatever change you're going to a charter school, or even bet again in a voucher going to a Catholic school or a private school. The that's out zero. Zero chance of you can escape your crappy school. If Joe Biden is in or if the teacher union gets their way teaches you get away. They're all out till November forthright. November fourth is the day the virus massively disappears, and they can go back to work, but I'M GONNA. Talk About Shea and then we're going to get to a couple of things including. Including the guy who's throwing out the first pitch for the Washington nationals this this is amazing to me, but. We'll get to that i. let me tell you about shake concrete shake. It's a fourth generation owned and operated business working hard day in doubt to be a trusted pre cast, concrete partner, their local company with four state of the art manufacturing facilities all over New England. 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We now have the highest unemployment rate in the country challenge, very proud of that a lot of people looking for work shaves, got jobs and all their plants. They're always hang CDL drivers to hang orcas in all four places. You can check out the job openings at Shea. Concrete Dot, com, or just send your resume to jobs at SHEA CONCRETE DOT COM Speaking of Charlie Baker, this whole like takeout drinks. Thing that's now appropriate didn't even think about it. I think it was fetish tweeted out this morning, so you can get a alcoholic beverage and then get in your car. Doesn't that seem strange like what's the purpose of that? Do you know what I mean? It does seem strange especially when like in where I live this restaurant, selling beer and right next to liquor store. Why? Hear it. Why would you buy Howard extra in Cody I? Think. They had to do something to save the restaurants. I talked to somebody yesterday in the restaurant business. It is unbelievable. He's estimating. forty percent of restaurants will never recover every day if you're following the news if you're on every day is another restaurant. That's saying. We're never coming back. This is like this. I assume and all the Democrat run cities, and all the lockdown states where they kept them closed and forced them to lay off their staff and now. Can't get anyone to come back to work now I I went to a restaurant the other night they kept tables, all distances and everything you know ten feet apart whatever there was like five tables in the whole restaurant, and this should have been twenty five and I'm thinking they might be able to stay alive a little longer with this with these rules. But, not forever I mean if the vaccine is whatever two years away say goodbye to half the restaurants in the country for crying out loud, it is alarming and some of them you know have been around for decades and you're there going well well. Because of the it's not because of the viruses because of the overreaction of the governor and other governors, other hard left liberals like Charlie Baker put these businesses out of work. It's sad and it's A. It's an example of something that that will never come back. It'll never come back. It's it's it's they ruined them. They put them under, and they have no hope of ever coming back. It's just sucks. Yeah, what was? What was the the latest Regina's in Austin? Regime another absolutely great place this this a legal seafood name me, which is gone I think and it's not coming back. which is incredible whiskies on Boylston street about gone forever I mean I. Don't know what takes its place i. don't know what comes in maybe another restaurant some day, but right now these places can't survive. The the other thing is the extra. Extra goodies, the extra six hundred dollars you get. If you're unemployed till the end of this month. At least it should be eliminated, but who knows again again. This is a way the more restaurants that go under under Charlie Baker. The better it is, the better the chance of defeating Donald Trump and that's what they want to do. They don't care for cost. The their estimate like four thousand restaurants in Massachusetts will never come back for thousand, and that's a okay with Charlie Baker, 'cause that hurts. Don Trump you and there's no doubt Joe Biden's promised. Bail outs this. Not only for that, but for the burn down cities as well. I mean essentially Biden is putting all of this This chaos on credit card for these. Mayors governors into. Yeah, this. It's there's no such thing what whiskeys was than Boylston Street. A place like that. That was slinging drinks with a huge overhead for the rent in the place like that in the property. Taxes in Boston are through the roof of course. That models over I. don't see how that can ever be again. He can't hire a bunch of folks now that you've driven up. The minimum wage is well in ONS eve. Screw these restaurant. That's those days are over and I just mentioned. The CAN'T TAB in sickle square is gone I. Don't know if you knew that took place. It was an old dive bar. It's never changed. It used to have blues acts. It was a it was a poor man's great poor man's dive bar. That's gone and those are the those people who went there. They didn't have business. they couldn't expense. Drinks like people can tavern on the square or whatever? But I. think that model is just over. I think that the best probably do is Walsh will probably end up you know making prohibiting driving like annuity streets in making those pedestrian Something like that, which is usually the last ditch effort for a lot of these cities, but these places have been ravaged in in in. Hall and Quincy Market People. Don't remember the before like nineteen seventy six. That was a hell hole. There was almost nothing there that whole area of Boston was terrible, and they took a lot of investment in a lot of you know community coming together to make it happen. Who's got the money now it's it's it's not. It's not possible. The everything has changed unfortunately in what sucks about it. Is it so damn self inflicted and we didn't really. We don't know if we avoided anything. Because the virus went in and killed, everybody could kill a New York it. We're seeing from testing that people we know we know. The lockdown states have been hit the worst. We know like Sweden didn't lockdown anything and they're. They're doing fine. We know was a mistake, but it again. It's a political mistake. They've done something to do with public health. But anyway couple things couple things Anthony FAUCI DR fouled that foul, just throwing out the first pitch. This is just. Is. Just weird! This is weird. That FAO cheese, throwing out the first pitch at the Washington nationals I mean. I assume he's going to throw it you like. A to the wrong base, because he's been wrong about everything since he's been up on stage for the last two months or in public public I just the other day, said New Yorkers. Doing a great job and I'm saying skies lost it. He's lost it and he's. We're still holding them up as some kind of icon. But anyway I'm. Jerry how how those bureaucracies were. You know FAO. She did everything by the process and the procedures that they went by committee and decided was right every day. And if you look at just the healthcare system works, that's that's how it goes. Everything segmented segmented rate regimented. There's no thought of human suffering in there at all. That's not their science, so at relatives in the hospital I've had sickle heads in the hospital. One of my one of my parents was in the hospital. Hospital essentially dying at one point, they couldn't the. They're having trouble breathing. They needed to albuterol to breathe neighboring the. We have a parent who's struggling to breathe. It's it's very difficult to watch, so we said Hey, where's the guy with the stuff? And they said it's already been scheduled. He's on the way. It's been scheduled, and so they're seeing. There's they see it every day, so you've got somebody who's struggling to breathe. WHO's in pain? And the first air concerned. Everything's working fine, because it's been scheduled and regimen to just like the bureaucracy wants it like Dr Fauci wanted it, so you need to calm down. Eventually somebody's have get in into and say get the Bureau Guy Right down here right now. Mad At that because you've you've questioned the healthcare professionals. You know you need to come down. They don't appreciate that stuff, but these guys are bureaucrats in Fauci does not deserve first of all. That's SOB, lied to the American people. He put people at risk. He said don't get a mask. He told us to our faces that we don't need to have a mask. And then he said afterwards patting. Patting himself on the back way. Jonathan Gruber Yeah. I had to lie. Because I couldn't have asks now, believe me now. You have to believe me in this is we took our orders to suicide from these healthcare officials like him based on faith, and how do you build faith and credibility when you've lied, lied to the American people's face and getting celebrated for it at a baseball game, these people. These people disgusting. Dr Vouch has been a true champion for our country during the Cova nineteen pandemic and throughout his distinguished career, so it is only fitting. We honor him as we kick off the two thousand twenty, I was GonNa say woody at booed, but there's not going to be any plans there. I probably wouldn't any way, but punchy February said. This is not a big deal. He literally said I think it was to It was on Newsmax TV and he said not a big deal, not not even as bad as the flu. Don't worry about it. This was that'd be wary. And then he said don't wear a mask been wrong about everything and you know he's just another bureaucrat. He's almost eighty sitting on a big fat pension I. Think it's a moment. Enjoy enjoy your golden years there, faucher. He reminds me of one of those doctors who wears funny scrubs like it'll be looney toons, scrubs, or whatever just like patch Adams. Actually when you got somebody a loved one in there, you're like no less concentration on the scrubs more concentration on the for eating problem here, but now he's a total ham. I've got. No patience for that guy is being total hams. Another note baseball note I guess season started did START I leaving knows. Is Baseball begun? To like exhibition games right, didn't they do? Over the weekend or something I don't know I. don't care if I mean this zero interest. But I'll tell you who's a hero. In my mind, WHO's heroes? The leading candidate for an SP next year would be gave Kappler manager of the San Francisco giants. He took a knee during at them, and then he went on and talked about systemic racism didn't give any examples or explain what that means, because he would have no idea, he's just a pandering Puke, looking to ingratiate himself with the media, and you know with with some of his players, I assume because some of his players took a knee the second. Message on wanted to share was that you know what my plans were. And I. It does because I wanted. Then to know that I wasn't pleased. With the way our country has handled. Police brutality. and I told them I wanted to amplify their voices and I wanted to amplify the voice of. The black community and he took a knee because of he said because of police brutality I I'm looking at twitter right now and the same story from Bob. Nightingale, we says capital took a wrote pandering Puke Tony, Maserati, my old friend rights not surprised. He always got it. All the usual suspects like Joe always got what I want. Gabe Kaplan to explain to me. you know what this all means? What why he thinks we have a problem with systemic racism. Explain it to me gave. You're so smart honest to God. Are you guys ready for this? Because he's going to be one of many many many many who are to say the same the? Cliches. Just puke out the same PABLUM. Yeah, systemic race of George Floyd. Black lives matter I wanted to one. Another black lives matter none of them will have you know any examples, and they won't be able to explain themselves. He'll just be pandering. Gape capless the first of many I have no. I don't care at all about this baseball season. Maybe it'll change. Maybe I'll get into it, but right now. When is opening day like this week? Is it Friday. GOING GONNA play for an empty stadiums correct? Yeah, I mean the red. SOX are trying to raise money for charity. You can get like a of yourself and sit in the stands, or whatever like fat heads up yourself, Jerry my theory on this. My theory is that Gabe Kaplan has extra credibility in the black. Lives Matter Movement. Because when he was working for the dodgers in two, thousand, fifteen and an underage girl was visited. The Hampton Inn and a middle call the police. Right, that's true. Empower engaging mobilize evil law enforcement to get everyone to go to dinner together because that's wanted to go to dinner with. Her assailant and I'm not sure what race the victim was. The SALEN is pretends to be black. He's not, but he pretends to be We're talking about for do. Go a good question. Maybe someone followed it up. Because Gabe was given a post. Impress conference. I would ask that of Tony Maserati. Did Gabe get it what he tried to get? The victim of the sexual assault to have dinner misused the kids who's under-age to have dinner with his assailant when he tried to brush all this under the rug, did he get it then Tony. Curious I mean Gabe his so thoughtful a love for someone. Ask Him that they won't but I assume he'll be taking a knee and pandering every night and They're going to be. The ratings will be in the toilet. There'll be no interest. This baseball season will be fart in the wind, and it couldn't happen or better bunch. They really couldn't. But the only thing less I'm less interested in his the bubble. The NBA Bobble in Disney and and you know who got. The, who got takeout the rules, and who who who texted or instagram the a model and try to get her to come. Hang out with them all this drama. Zero zero positive tests in the NBA Bob. Alright I think too in the NFL right. I thought it was the opposite that what it was. Early testing three hundred eighty players right the NHL, one of them tested like two thousand people and there were two. Two positive tests yet so I'm looking at this high school football, coming back and playing high school football and Florida as they should. And Ben Volant from the globe, Typical Globe says that's borderline criminal to have seventeen year old kids come out of their homes and go play. Sport is criminal criminal. These people I mean I understand he's A. This is what you have to do. Your job requirement is hate trump, but what kind of what kind of thought process goes into thinking. It's criminal for sixteen and seventeen year old kids to go play a sport in an open field. She has to be our criminals. This guy is a journalist and alleged journalist with influence and he wants to keep sixteen-year-olds locked at home. That is criminal. Letting them go play sports is is necessary. It's it's the only thing that should be doing his get everyone out. Out of the House get him to school. Get him on the playing fields. Get back to normal if you get if he gets sick if he gets the virus, you know what you do, you stay home and you drink plenty of fluids and take some Ibuprofen for a couple of days. Then you go back to school. That's what you do all right, so the ring them. He is now far afield from where we were four and a half months ago. The reasoning you can't have kids play football now is because no one will die. If. They do it reason used to be. You can have them play football because they will die now. We know that there's not GonNa die if they do. We know that even if they give it to their parents that fatal fatalities are are. Really down. We also know that the thing might be airborne by now. This is he's a moron that, too. I used to like him I. He's just there. There's a ninety nine point nine nine a survival rate much much much higher than the flu much higher than again. Driving to to the score drive practice and yet we want to keep people at home, and if you tell them, they can go play a game with their friends, your criminal according to the Boston, Globe, it's just nuts and we allow this. We allow this mentality. To Fester like you can't go play sports. Trust me. It's GonNa Screw these kids up much much worse if you tell them no more sports, no more school, then you're going to have you know real issues with depression, and all kinds of other in Ciller ancilliary. Whatever that you? Collateral damage lots kind of on intended consequences. If you don't let these kids go back to living their lives, I'm just sick of it tired of it, but anyway shattuck, could you? Talk show host of the burned barrel podcast and a media critic and editorial writer. You had a good. Did you tweet out this column You wrote? I did Yes yes about inspired from your show Jerry Monica. Cannon Grant. Monica Cana grant now I bet. I Bet Turtaboi the Boston. Globe wooden touch it. We're talking about campaign coordinator for a of Presley or campaign volunteer. Not much of a volunteer. She's getting paid by everybody but Monica cannon grant to accused. Presley's opponent of Writing White Penis. And use the N. Word and all kinds of other vile stuff. She's a very very Influential member of the community in the Boston area. All the politicians kiss up to her. She's a big. She's a hater, but they don't care because That's what they do. You wrote about the globe did not I'm I? Won The bet I'll actually I? Don't know how long I have to wait for the next time. I took the turtle blood, but there's zero chance to globe touches his zero. There's a better chance to you. Know Tucker, Carlson or Laura Ingram touch it than the Boston Globe, but. Good job by you. Good column followed well. Well she. She writes for occasionally so as what she writes the globe, Peyser this woman. This racist woman accused I on his opponent of Writing White Penis and says that. You get that quote in the paper. Shattuck did that that make it. I'm looking at right now. It did not did it. I don't think you got This because her heifer. What did he have to do she? She said inappropriate things. Is that the quote? To inappropriate to print. SAYS REMEMBER He says to obscene to print something. Obscene to print feels right at feels right for. Shukla. FTP We stands for F- police. Those are the misdemeanors in that I, mean she? Did she said is unbeatable in its vileness. I mean it is really it's really credible, but you're more likely to see her bioline in the globe than this story. Good Point. Rental payer just like the Pale and Dershowitz. They don't ever asked her. She explain his relationship with Epstein. That just give money, and he writes about whatever he wants to write about and they'll pay. Monica Cannon Grant, but they will never ask her to explain her her comments about Ianna Presley's opponent, but check it out. That's dump Shannon calm. You can follow him on twitter, and you could follow me on twitter. Follow Dave Cohen. You won't understand frigging word that CONAN is tweeting, but you can follow. It's a challenge. We're kind of where my brain goes. At a given moment. There's no thought put out to borrow pits speaking of twitter right now because Jerry I know you'll have the radio gossip, I? Don't know what's happening on ninety eight five, but people are tweeting nonstop that just like Fred is just losing is crap on the air right now like? They might have just taken him off the air. We got to look into this good. Could I like radio drama? We'll look into that and maybe maybe he. Maybe he had dinner with some of the Bruins. Players think wife. Got Sick or something some? Grown men out there who actually Funding over a twenty one year old hockey players. It's kind of embarrassing, but. We'll get. We'll find out and get into that tomorrow we'll. We'll talk about that tomorrow. We'll get all the details of that and you know this We didn't do it today. Maybe do do it tomorrow. There's another barstool drama involving my sometimes friend Kirkman a hand. That's pretty crazy. That's that I was following on twitter. I know colony loves that, so we can get into that tomorrow, too, but. thanks, Shattuck and thanks to shake concrete. Thanks, ally, paving, and to DC, you and flagship. Torri red contract. Ear Buds Yup I think. We saw that a bunch of good job to you excellent. Ear Buds. The next Konate. I'm Jerry Kelly and this is the Callan podcast and we will do it again tomorrow. Why am I stopping? You know stops. I, don't I can I go home to Gerry Callahan podcast.

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The One With All the Football and Anti-Semitism

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The One With All the Football and Anti-Semitism

"It's funny to hear a female talk about Ralph's like started off off. Show me what you got. A something. Welcome to girl at the game the podcast by women for everyone in partnership with C L & S media where your host Gabrielle founder of girl at the game and a love Nelson and this episode is brought to you by Bette online app or online Sportsbook experts. How how you feeling? I think we both mentioned before we started recording. We're in a mood. It's way too hot in the city of Boston. I am without central air for the first time in my life. I know champagne problems, but this humidity is just so miserable and as a result everything bad that happens to me today is just it just feels worse right? Not much more pissed about it because it's just humid to my first apartment in L. I had no air conditioning at all and l i is like usually fine in terms of temperature. I mean, there's like it's chilly in the winter and I had heat so that was fine. And then in the summer, it's mostly like the same temperature. It's usually like mid-eighties and if I wasn't in, New Jersey, Was all day cuz I was at work it wasn't a big deal. But there was one week when I lived in an apartment in July. We're actually right around this time of the year two years ago. It was a hundred and five degrees or higher every all day for a full week. And there was one day that I worked from home and I literally sat in my bathing suit in the bathtub and I balanced my computer on the closed toilet seat and I sat and took water in the bathtub because it was the only way that I could be in my apartment without actually dying of heat stroke. Yeah. I'm sorry, but window units just doesn't cut it. I know I sound like such a snob but like wage now we had them when I was a little scared don't my God I can't live without it hoof. Anyway speaking of terrible terrible things while this isn't terrible, but it's just I just feel like I should mention it's the two-year anniversary of LeBron signing with the Lakers. So congratulations to him and basketball is on its way back kind of I don't know. I mean Florida's a disaster but the Celtic song So that's well, that's why well embiid rolled up in a hazmat suit. How funny was that? Not even put I'm also like everyone should wear one so they should just play in them know it'd be funny at least got to get that content. I mean NBA fashion is content in itself, but what if they start coming in with like Balenciaga and Versace need a hazmat suits and my God just like a Louis Vuitton hazmat suit, but like for your whole body love it. I love the Campbell's little green mask with his number eight on it. I want it. I want one of those went off the plane. Yeah. A lot of teams have come out with like the cutest Brandon felt excelled has to get they should if they're not already. I want one. I have to say though. So like all the players are dead posting stuff on social about getting down there and the hotel rooms and getting fed and all that kind of stuff and talk about champagne problems like A little tone-deaf of enes Kanter to be complaining about his hotel room right ring. There's like millions of people unemployed and dying of coronavirus and he's like this is it this is my rim. I'm like dude, it's wage free room and board for months and you still get to make millions of dollars. Like I get it. It's like it's not your luxurious home that you're used to living in but it's still a lot better than what most people have and crazy stuff like that that reinforces the trolls who think the athletes are privileged and spoiled. Oh, yeah, and like I think we've established and as Cantor is definitely a friend of the program not that we never had any more but like all the work he does for freedom and Liberation. He is just like one of the model Advocates I think in the NBA off. Yeah, so kind of I love how he backed it up today like talking about how good the food is still like to be complaining about your accommodations when like what Joe WNBA just a side note is dealing name is going to sound like they have worms in their accommodations mouse traps in the laundry room. And like I'm not going to judge where they're saying off of what life the laundry room looks like because it's a laundry room. Like what school has nice ones, you know what I mean? But like, oh my God, you could have at least gotten rid of the mouse traps and like all the up like the meal that they're posting those poor women. I'll be honest if I played for the WNBA I would be skipping list and I would just be training or doing my thing to stay in shape and not dealing with any of this especially the ones with families like this is for the birds just shows you how much of a divide there is between a man's sport and a woman sport. Like it's just kind of frustrating like let's not get it twisted like team owners are still the problem here because they're billionaires and they don't want to pay people like they're still the problem number one, but you can understand off. More where the Twitter trolls are coming from when they complain about millionaire athletes because the athletes aren't doing themselves a favor in this department at when they complain about their accommodations when they have Golf and not frantic curious new world, like I get that it's a long time to be there but like there's so much for you guys to do right now and I think Jayson Tatum said it best saying insensitive to not come back when there's millions of people out of work. So it's like really insensitive to be crapping on the accommodations when like we said millions of people in this country are out of work, but I do think the one real complaint they get to have it's a lot to ask to leave their families. I mean Robin hayward's Instagram post yesterday. I broke my heart. I know it was so sad, especially when she said that Gordon Hayward puts the kids to bed every night and sits with them until they fall asleep. And then now these little girls are just without their dad. And they they got used to him being around. I mean that's the other thing is like they're these kids are used to their parents not being around all the time, but then their dads have now been home for months and they're just around all the time and now kids are used to that and I feel like that's a completely separate issue from you know, the accommodations complaints and everything because the legitimate thing here is that you have men who are leaving their families behind and you and I talked about hoping that families would be allowed to come to Disney World looking like they will a very select few maybe that it's not obviously a definite yet, but it's looking like they want to have families come back after the first round of the playoffs. Yeah still that's quite a substantial amount of time. We're looking at playoffs and September and October. So it's just rough. It's like you just feel for these kids. Do you see Brad Wanamaker bringing the pillow with his kids that was a game and posting the Instagram story off. And then kind of like I'm single and I don't go anywhere. So I'm cool. Right I know baseball is also coming back and fortunately for them. They've really lucked out. It looks like they're going to be able to say and their home ballparks when they're not on the road for away games throughout the whole season. So they really lucked out there that they'll be was not into the centralized location idea, especially because Arizona and Florida are now like the to Global hotspots of the pandemic. It's like, can you imagine putting fish in a barrel if they've been in Arizona? Did you see that chart that was like wage cities and countries that have the highest outbreak new case outbreak numbers per day and it's like sound terrible. It's Arizona and Florida and South Carolina. 3 before any other place not in the country in the whole world speaking of coronavirus. I have to rant for a second because I just wrote an article about this for girl at the game.com. I got a surprise song. Support for this article, but there's always like those 1 or 2 Twitter trolls. That just are up your butt about what you wrote. I wrote about Joe West the Aging umpire who never gets it right has been in fact, we all week making dumb comments about coronavirus and saying how he intends to umpire this season, even though he's sixty seven years old massively overweight and has high blood pressure and none of those things off like calling him overweight. It's not like a Pablo Sandoval insult situation. I'm stating for a fact that those three things make him high risk for Coronavirus and MLB was apparently shocked that he intended to push the season and he could have opted out and gotten full pay because he's high-risk instead. He's planning on working, but the problem is that he thinks coronavirus is like a hoax. Are you supposed to go down not surprised cuz there's like a bigger demand hard. Oh and also loves when he's the center of attention, you know what I mean? Like maybe he doesn't even feel that way but just wants to be like a GM have his sleep on him like that's song. Joe West one of the reasons I moved back in work is because he's only something like sixty five games away from having the most games ever called. He's sixty five games away from being billed clam to have like the number one spot. So he wants to work this season so that he's closer to that goal before he retires which like in normal circumstances. I would understand in a global sort of like I said, no reason when you're high risk and you think that the disease is at hoax, you might not reach that record if you could go bed. So yeah. No, but the fact is so annoying is because it would be one thing if he was like, I know I'm high risk, but I take it really seriously and I want to come to work but he's not saying that he's saying I know I'm high risk. I don't care because I don't think it's a hoax and I want to come to work because I want to set a personal record and like have that glory for myself. It's not about baseball for him. It's about himself. You can't trust somebody else. Got to be respectful and the only way that baseball is going to be successful this year is if there is mutual trust between everybody involved that everyone's going to abide by the rules and somebody who thinks that coronavirus is a hoax cleavage isn't going to take those rules seriously and especially with the delays and testing we've seen thus far as like that's a huge concern for like I saw like, it's a Collin McHugh had like dead. Yeah pretty good stuff to say about it, but I know that'll be came out and said it was a backup Fourth of July weekend this lab in Utah is supposedly running 7 days a week at MLB but still yes, but also like saying that July 4th is an unforeseen circumstance as if we haven't been celebrating July 4th for over two hundred years. It's kind of a bullshit cop-out don't you think like Iraq understand this country's birthday really you weren't prepared for that. You know why you're not prepared for that because you spend three months complaining about money instead of working on health and safety protocols, right? Yep. The tests are working for the Red Sox cuz erode has it has it and he's sick who are the other two players that you're at? Has it Darwin's and Hernandez has it in Miami? So he asked me that he has to test negative twice before he can even fly up to Boston and then I don't remember if it's Josh Smith or Josh Taylor because they look exactly the same Josh Taylor and I believe he's in boss already. Yeah. He had waiting now in a hotel. Yeah. Apparently, he and Darwin's in our both asymptomatic, but they have it and then Bobby dalbec has it and he's a symptomatic and then they Devers was exposed to it off. So they were like, I'm a complete insurance with his return. He only came back yesterday, but he did say that he's ready to go season started today. Did you want him to work at the Red Sox home? I didn't watch any of the training. I just watched the zoom press conferences. So I watched it the intrasquad game. It was so weird for starters. And when we knew it was going to be we're dead. I have any fans in the stands and how to finally be quiet where you can hear every Echo like it's weird because usually you can't hear anything, you know, you'll hear the ball leaving the bat but you literally could hear the players swing his Bat and Miss. It's like it's like practice before the game. Like that's what it would be reminiscent of they're going to have to do a lot to make the actual games have life in them because what I took away from watching the game today was how much energy fans bring to the experience of a game because it was such a an obvious even more than I thought there would be there was an obvious difference playing without fans. And then of course, there's like the actual game itself, which was really confusing because you have no announcer. The only thing that they had on the screen for the Periscope was if a player came up that they would put the players name at the bottom of the screen or if a pitching change happens, but there was no score there was no growl a little graphic of like having Runners on the basis or the Alps or the balls or the Strikes Back. No, that didn't even know what inning it was. So at the end everyone who was watching the game me Jen McCaffrey Tom Caron, like everybody who was watching kind of tweeted the same thing they were like, so I guess the game is over. We didn't even realize we couldn't tell and also because both sides were wearing red uniforms so you couldn't tell who was playing on which side JD Martinez bat for each team Devers took three at-bats in 20 minutes cuz he bat for each side multiple times. It was so confusing at least give those guys some pennies so you can tell I know some like you can tell when they're all wearing bright red and you're not using a professional cameraman who are like zooming in on faces and stuff. I mean it was I was like I was like, I'm really happy back but it was whatever at least of all he was good. Yeah. I'm aside from the strangeness of playing baseball during covid-19 times. Like let's how they actually look like what's like, it's funny because like for so long we've gone we've been trying to write a, New Jersey About sports made the coronavirus and it's like it's like you almost forget that like, oh wait they practice today and there's actual athletic competition and injury updates to talk about wage. I could be back to normal using I've forgotten how to cover a baseball game. I was like, so like what type we should be paying attention to what kind of pitches he's throwing to other than the fact of all these same precautions you have it's hard to tell because first of all it was broadcast on Periscope, so it's not like high quality footage. There's no announcer telling you what's going on. I realize how much I rely on Okeechobee and a canned Remi to tell me how someone's doing because I mean you can eyeball it but never has had a hit for example in like his second of three at-bats during the game. They were all in a span of literally 15 minutes to the point where I was like wait, is he batting again? Didn't he just but he kept switching teams so he could bat again and again and it kind of felt like a middle school gym class, but birth So he Blue Point into left field and whoever was out in left field. I couldn't even tell who it was like it might have been Benny, but I don't think so because then he would have made that catch but it was so far away that I was like, well whoever missed that and let Devers get on base. Like I can't tell my eyesight's not good enough for this like it showed me how much I rely on like the actual baseball format. It was hard like hard to follow the game. Like when when the game score was announced. It was like the Red Sox beat the Red Sox 420. I was like, when did they score four runs was John Andrew like his jaw naturally hit a home run. He hit late. He wrapped a home run around the pesky pole. He hit a home run off Brandon Workman. I don't think anyone could tell if there were actually three players on base or if some of those players were the infielders it was hard because they were all wearing red jerseys gotta love it. How do we talk about do so speaking of how much Joe West is unnecessary for this game? Jason Varitek was a very passionate and phone number. Empire today and he was extra hard on Christian Vasquez, which was funny cuz like, you know catchers got a hold each other accountable I guess but he typed up that strike on when vaske was hitting which was really funny, but he seemed to really enjoy well if you think about it who better would you want in a catcher like exactly all training you need like definitely their ten thousand hours and squatting in front of an office. It was really funny. I also just felt for him though, cuz it must have been really hot in Boston today cuz he was wearing the blue Empire shirt the polo but by the end of the game, it was kind of like tie-dye blue cuz they were just massive sweat patches all over it. So it must have been really hot out there in the sun. I'm melting into a puddle just in my apartment. I feel for those guys today. I know I can't we had the fans going today. I think our house here has air conditioning. I'm pretty sure but we never use it the cape doesn't usually get that hot but today it was really hot. So I had all the ceiling fans and like the we have like an oscillating fan. Early nineteen seventy that sounds like an airplane propeller and I had that going until we started recording and I was like, there's no way we can record with this thing. Right? Exactly. I know I had to show yeah, it's just too I would just like to preface this by saying though that it's very funny that I was the one that was like Al we should have a football heavy episode this week because I have a lot of football to talk about did you ever think that was going to happen I didn't but I love to see it. So yeah a lot of football stuff to talk about with you guys, but first we are going to hear from our friends at Bed Bath online. There is no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partner. 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What you know what I respect that and it's funny because we literally originally our intro was going to be the Cam Newton sound bite off of him saying I think it's funny to hear a woman talk about routes and tell you if I'm ever allowed back at Gillette this season, I dare you you better believe I'm going to ask about some rods isn't off first thing. I tweeted to you when we heard the news I was like about Cam Newton still has a little bit of growing to do as a person. I still welcome page him to New England with open arms. Oh my God, it's going to be covering Tom Brady compared to covering Cam Newton is going to be night and day so much more fun even wage, even though I have to transcribe his Instagram captions into English, but did you see when the Patriots like shout out to pass social personally High figure was dead. I know a few of those girls. So like there is a little bit of a bias, but they do a damn good job and between the hype video they release and also announcing the official signing in Cam Newton signature font. Hieroglyphics was just it was perfect. So clearly not my area of expertise. What's the deal with him? And the font thing I know that was like very Jerry Seinfeld for me to be like, what's the deal? But why does he do that? I have no idea but it was like that came out. I was dialing this thing and when he's home, he's like this is how I type. You don't like it too fucking bad like respects County. Okay. Well, he's definitely going to be more interesting than Tom. All I eat is avocado Brady and not to mention on the field to we finally have a quarterback. That doesn't look like a baby gazelle when they run I cannot wait if Cam Newton is healthy. We formerly wage. MVP Cam Newton what Bill Belichick is going to do with this offense with camps just the options that are going to run and his size and speed if he's healthy like oh, it's awful. I wasn't excited for much this NFL season and this just like electrocuted like new life into me. It's going to be a very different kind of relationship with Belichick and Newton them and you would think about the Brady Belichick cuz I feel like from what I've always seen Brady and Belichick always had like kind of a not like a father-son relationship but like off at least for a time before kind of the tb12 drama started with Brady start Boardman T relationship for sure. Maybe at least like a uncle like a like Mister Turner and Shawn from Boy Meets World kind of yeah, I believe they have a good relationship to this day. I think it was just time. I think it was time on Thursday. Yeah, and I think they both want to prove that they can win without the other person because you know, they've been playing together this entire time and so it's kind of like well, they each want to prove that they can do it like Tom Brady wants to prove that. He's the best quarterback of all time and it's not just because of Belichick's coaching and Belichick wants to prove that he can coach any quarterback to a Superbowl and that's why I'm so excited about this Cam Newton New Era of the Patriots because bill is going to have a chip on his shoulder and you know Cam Newton has one because this man is dead. So predictably signing with the Patriots for the vet minimum because no other team had the balls to take a chance on him and I mean like yeah, the injuries are a huge Factor but oh my God, how did no one pick this man up before the Patriots. There are so many teams out there with just trash quarterbacks and they didn't even bite at The Forum. MVP, I don't know I think Richard Sherman said it best like I don't know if he said it particularly, but he was very vocal about this man having to sign for the league minimum and like it's true some respect on his name. Yeah, it'll definitely be interesting definitely kind of live in the Patriots up. I mean they kind of have been I want to say like a very Bland organization, but they kind of remind me of the Yankees of football in that they are, you know, very clean cut and they win a lot of championships and a lot of people don't like them and Cam Newton definitely shake things up hot tears. Will Cam Newton even though he's unlike a lot of them likable stuff in the past like between the it's funny to hear women talk about talk about anything like we took the way there been there. I think we should use that one this week. Just just in honor of Cam Newton will bring it back from the trailer. That's the intro for sure but between the it's funny game. Hear women talk about routes and like his Antics after the Superbowl storming off the field whatever like he's gotten some he's got some hate in the past, but I think cam might just F around and make the Patriots kind of likable. He'll have to get me to like him first but I'm at least my my curiosity is at least I'm intrigued it's hard when you have when within the AFC you have Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs which brings us to Pat Mahomes got paid up to $503 million dollar contract ten years on this extension the first time an NFL player had the most lucrative contract in all of sports smoked Mike Trout steel and I mean Smite ranked. The other guy is going every other up-and-coming quarterback from here on out is going to have a contract like this song. The NFL's up. First of new TV deals. It'll be interesting to see what the salary cap does but still I don't know if we'll see Team lock a guy up like this for ten years for half a billion dollars. That is banana. Like my conspiracy theory is that the NFL thinks that the world is going to end before the next ten years. So they're offering this so that cuz they know that the world won't be around by the time they have to pay up but that's just my that's just my like catastrophic. It's really it's really almost unfathomable to think about the year twenty-thirty one between I was like twenty Thirty one year. I'm a real thing under the Miami 20/20 didn't even so there's no way that Society is smart enough to stop destroying itself in the next ten years. Like we're just not we are not trending towards being better. We are trending towards being worse. I mean America specific Link there might not be an America in ten years the way we're going so, you know, hey Santa to the homes get that money while you can I hope a lot of it was up front. Who knows where we'll be ten years from now that's applicable to think about but okay being go off this trajectory of the world being a terrible place in society not making it that far. We have much more NFL news, but not going to tone it down a little make some more serious stuff to talk about with DeSean Jackson's comments. I'm sure that probably affected you personally Gap so long Gap go off. So DeSean Jackson posted in his Instagram story a picture of a page of a book and it was Hitler talking about black people and Jewish people and DeSean Jackson was like in support of like he was posting it in support of like what it was. I mean first of all any normal human being but here the name Hitler and they're like dead. Evil man right included in a lot of those inspirational calendars with quotes or fortune cookie papers. So yeah, so like that's the first thing there are so many other quotable people that you could quote to get your point across just don't quote Hitler for starters being a Jewish person for starters you like live with the shadow of the Holocaust in your life just like your entire existence because you grow up hearing about it from your parents and your grandparents friends of mine had grandparents who were Holocaust Survivors a ton of my family was wiped out in the Holocaust. The only reason I'm alive is because my great-grandmother who I'm named after promised her mother that she would come to America and so they came to America before all of this started but otherwise like I wouldn't be here today because most of my family is gone because of Hitler so when you're a Jewish person and you see somebody else Invoking Hitler's words. It is traumatic. It is upsetting the same way. Like, I don't know if you saw this today, but there was a fashion brand that was selling swastika necklaces, like one of those fast fashion websites GN was selling a swastika necklace for $2.50 and all of these people were like, well, it's the Buddhist form of the swastika. Cuz what Hitler did was he took the swastika and he inverted off and turned it a little bit. So it's a swastika but it's like it's kind of like that Meme of can I copy your homework? Yeah, but just don't let it be too similar to mine people in western civilization are not going to see that right and so like people were like, well, it's a Buddhist symbol and I'm sorry that Hitler stole the symbol from you, but he turned that symbol into something that represents evil and that's never going to go away from British people. So that's the whole thing. Like we've talked about cancel culture before and how the problem with cancel culture is that there's no levels to cancel culture you decide someone's canceled and they're canceled canceled. Prohibits people from learning from their mistakes. Some people are past the point of return a young teenager who makes a dumb comment is not the same as like a grown person who has repeatedly done that said hateful things for their entire life. So when you cancel someone you don't afford them the opportunity to grow and change and become better. You're just shutting them down instead of offering them the chance to grow and so what I appreciated about the DeSean Jackson situation was a DeSean Jackson issued an apology spoke with Jewish leaders and committed to going to the Holocaust museum in Washington DC to learn about it off what Stephen Jackson did was support DeSean Jackson and then even after Deshawn apologized Steven Jackson doubled down on his comment and it was so disappointing to see because one of the reasons that Jewish people are so adamantly anti racist or I don't want to speak for all of them. But the majority of Jewish people are passionately anti-racist because Jewish Home Know what it's like to be targeted and murdered and tortured and exiled because Jewish people have been there throughout history to Jews are subject to anti-Semitism. And obviously the color of my skin is a privilege and I know that Jews aren't trying to say that they're not trying to make it like a measuring contest or not. Trying to keep score Jews are just saying to an extent we feel your pain we empathize because Jewish people have been hated for thousands of years as well. And so Ford even Jackson to be such a proud member of the black lives matter movement, but then to turn around and make these statements about Jewish people is really disappointing because you can't just be against one kind of hate and not the others like you can't be Against Racism against black people and then not be against anti-Semitism towards Jewish people. That's not how it works. You have to be against all kinds of hatred. Otherwise, you don't stamp it out if you don't you nightclub. Eradicate these things then they continue to fester and either way it's society. And so it's sucked because this whole time I've been like Steven Jackson's amazing. He's taking care of Gianna Floyd & T is so inspiring and then he comes out and says this and I'm like, so I care that you get to live a safe life, but you don't care that I get to live a safe life. I care that black people should be allowed to live without fear, but you don't afford me the same consideration. That's not how it needs to work. It needs to be all forms of hate and bigotry and racism are wrong and bad news lately. And I think that's why Julian edelman's response was just he clearly took his time with it and it was perfect, cord to make a statement for God's sake of making a statement but very classy one coming from a place of forgiveness and encouraging further growth and talking about how much he respected dog. On as like a football player too because a lot of people would have lost their cool about that. I think yeah problem is that if he lost his cool it would have reflected badly on Jewish people. It wouldn't have been productive as as frustrating as it is because I've spent the last like three days on Twitter having to tell people it's not okay to put swastikas on stuff and I can't believe I'm saying that twenty-twenty I learned about the Holocaust in school as a thing of the past and here I am in twenty-twenty having people try to defend the use of swastika goes to me a Jewish girl and a rabbi's daughter and it's like are you fucking serious? Like do you not understand how insensitive it is to tell a Jewish person that I should be? Okay when your freedom of speech is telling someone I hope you die in a gas chamber, which is something someone has said to me on Twitter before I don't deserve your freedom of speed. Yeah, there's just so much civil unrest right now and so much of it is racially charged. It's so weird that they would like want to just add more birth. That's that like also really I want to be really careful with my words here and I don't want to say like it discredits the work that they're doing on the black lives matter Forefront. But when you make comments like that, it takes all the black lives matter haters and gives them a reason to discredit the movement as a whole. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, that's what's so many people in my men should have been saying they're saying clearly if you're Pro blacklivesmatter, you're anti Jewish people or your anti-israel or your anti-business like wall. It's not it's not supposed to be a political issue. It's just supposed to be like being a freaking good human being people think that having a Twitter account means that everyone wants their opinion at all times Mitchell Schwartz who plays for the Chiefs. He had a nice statement yesterday saying as a jewish-american in NFL I stand with my brother's of all Races increasing as any form of discrimination and hate and he went on to say that one of the things that he loves about play a game. Football is that the locker room has always been a diverse place and he said that all of his teammates have always been supportive and interested in his Judaism. But at the same time, he's watched anti-Semitism a rise in America and he wants the Jewish community and black lives matter movement to work together and denounce racism and bias in all forms. And that's exactly what it is turning into a fight between black lives matter and Jewish people is exactly what racist people want because they want us to destroy each other instead of destroying them. That was like really powerful and I don't think you have me at like kind of a loss but I mean, I feel free because I can only imagine like how all this made you feel it's just really scary in 2022. Like I realized that the world isn't safe for me things just need to be safe enough so that we can return back to normal because at this point people just have nothing to do but be divisive dead. But at the same time anti-Semitism was Rising before this, I don't want us to go back to that normal. I want us to go into a new normal wear like being a Nazi is unacceptable supporting Hillary is unacceptable having a swastika tattoo should be illegal. It's not freedom of expression. It's hate speech. That's one of the reasons. I've always really liked Julian Edelman, even though I'm not big football fan because seeing a young person who was so proudly Jewish and also like he didn't grow up religious. He's talked about a lot of time embrace it until way later in life and to be from a place where your football team is owned by a Jewish man, and then to have a Jewish football player playing for Jewish football team owner seeing yourself represented make such a huge difference like seeing somebody out there who's repping your people. It's such a sense of Pride it always has been it was the same way when Kevin Youkilis and Gabe kapler played for the Red Sox and then Craig Breslow the same way like Hank Greenberg and Sandy Koufax were always talked about in my family home. Have Ryan Lavarnway who we had on a couple of weeks ago, like seeing those people represent. Your people is such a huge sense of Pride, especially from like a small religion like Judaism and a people that is so hated around the world. It makes you feel safe to see yourself represented by these people and especially with Julian Edelman because he has spoken out so many times about being pro-israel and being proudly Jewish and like wearing clothes in honor of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting in 2018. I covered the Patriots right after that happened and Julian War the World Baseball Classic hat from the Israeli National Team he and I asked him about it and he just gave me in my crease of pretty brief answer but just to see him making those gestures even post game in the room when he knows he's going to be on T. And yeah, there's very high everywhere wearing that hat. So in 2018, he honored the Pittsburgh shooting and then in 2019, his cleats were for team Israel baseball cuz he's dead. The Olympic run and I mean that stuff just like it's stuff that I will always remember because it matters like seeing yourself represented by somebody of your own faith it matters and I will always be a Julian Edelman fan because of that. He puts a positive face to the Jewish people and we don't have a lot of those like, I know I told you about that funny like jokes scene from airplane with the tiny Leaf Life famous Jewish athletes a lot of famous Jewish people are famous for bad reasons like Bernie Madoff. So having someone like Julian Edelman like a Super Bowl champion amazing football player having people like him. It's important because it puts a good face to our name like to have him make that offer to DeSean Jackson to be like, I'll take you to the Holocaust Museum in D C and then you'll take me to the Museum of African American history in DC that was so powerful to me because he could have been so mad online like he could have gotten so pissed off there have been days this week that I've gotten so pissed off about this stuff off. But what Julian Edelman did was so much more productive with his large platform taking the time to sit down and think about what he wanted to say and extend such a generous offer in the face of a really upsetting situation. He took the time to say that instead and I think it was perfect and and so important and I really hope that they take the opportunity to Embark our experience together and maybe DeSean Jackson even reaches out to Steven Jackson and says, dude, you know what I was wrong. You shouldn't be supporting me. Yeah stuff like that. I'm reaching out to each other trying to see other people's experiences and their perspective. That's what's going to make the difference. Ultimately we've been talking about this since this issue of racial inequality really became the headline Topic in America and we've been talking about this forever with the girl the game podcast, you know, it's what we're trying to do in, Georgia. At those diverse voices Amplified so that we can all understand each other a little better, right? Yeah before we end I just want to give a shout out to one of our former guests come out often because his boss photos of Jaylen Brown were featured in the special slam issue that Carmelo Anthony guest edited last week not a big deal. So proud and honored that is our gas and if you missed that episode, it'll be my one of my favorite episodes we did forever because come out was such a joy to talk to and now he's in Slam with his photos and the issue Faith Bill Russell Oscar Robertson Spencer Haywood, Steven Jackson interestingly enough Kareem, obviously just so many amazing faces and now come at 2. So that's amazing. But yeah, I think that's a good place for us to end this week because honestly, like I am drained like talking about this stuff and thinking about this stuff like I wasn't alive when all of this stuff was happening wage. See Germany, but it has been a part of my existence my entire life like we learn about it in school. We have Holocaust Remembrance Day every spring. I've been to the Holocaust museums in D C. And is that all at least 5 times and it's a trauma that is part of being a Jewish person and it's exhausting and like to deal with it in this context to see it in like a current context. She said of in a historical context is honestly traumatizing this world just needs to figure itself out because this stuff is unacceptable and we will all end up destroying each other if we go down this page. That's awesome. I got nothing left in the tank. So that's our show that was definitely a lot to sift through. So we appreciate you guys sticking around to Dish it all out with life as always. You can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at girl at the game. So you don't miss our next episode. Be sure to subscribe and download our podcast on libsyn wage. To fi and apple and with that I'm going to go eat some ice cream and we will send you into this weekend with one of my all-time favorite songs Let Me Love You by Mario. Have a great weekend guys by everyone. Thursday

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