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Ava Movie Review : Jessica Chastain powers this moderately thrilling assassin saga
"I'm Madeleine brand. I am ready to review some films of two of my favorite favorite critics and two of my favorite humans all time alongside early and Dave White film critics for the rap and host of the podcast, Linoleum knife. How you guys Hello. All right. Let's talk first about Eva. Jessica Chastain stars as international assassin, but a job goes wrong. Here is some of the trailer. I know you like Eva. She's a liability. No, she's best to breathe. I recruited her trainers talking She's always been jukes favor, but she's a loose cannon and dangerous of the organization. Alonzo. What did you think so? Yeah, this is, you know, typical international assassin and runs afoul of the corporation. And of course, she must be closed. Um, why is it that only the female international assassins also have family issues, whereas the male international assassins were always completely cut off from their own feelings and from their own families of their own pasts and all that stuff. Really The most interesting stuff about Eva is that a bow, played by Jessica Chastain comes home to Boston, where she has to confront her fractured relationships with her sister, played by just Wexler and her mother, played by Gina Davis. On Of course, Gina Davis was an international female assassin in the long kiss. Good night, so that's a nice little Bow on this, and the scenes between Gina Davis and Jessica Chastain are so crackling in a Confrontational, dysfunctional family cannot away that you kind of wish this had been a confrontational, dysfunctional family movie and not international Super Assasin movie. But I mean, it's a lot of that movie is has been made. It's called What ever happened to Baby Jane? Good points, But I mean, you know the The pieces in this are not bad, like the actual international Super assassin scenes are pretty well done. There's some pretty good action sequences. Maybe Not in like an atomic blonde kind of way. But still like when. When Jessica Chastain gets into a scrap with Colin Farrell or, you know, I mean, John Malkovich even gets into some violence in this movie. Those scenes are kind of fun, but then you gotta shift gears into Ava and her addictions and her family stuff, and it's like The movie is in all the lanes and it doesn't really ever quite nail any of them. So I maybe wish they had. They had taken off one piece of jewelry before leaving the house, you know, either lose one of reds here, Dave. Moments of cool, stabbing and kicking. Alleviating boredom. Unfortunately, they missed this golden opportunity to allow Gina Davis To be revealed. To still be her long kiss Goodnight character, passing the mantle of super assassin. Down to her daughter that they did They do this. They did not do this. Unfortunately, if you're going to make a movie with a plot, as wrote, and by the numbers as this You got to juice it up somehow, You know, it's not. It's not enough that the Jessica Chastain isn't a long red gown. You know, stabbing and kicking and shooting. Okay,
'Behind The Kingdom's Veil' Offers Insights Into The Lives Of Ordinary Saudis
"Saudi Arabia opened its doors to foreign tourists. The move was part of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salmon's grand plan. To transform the ultra conservative kingdom into a modern open state with a more modern open economy. How that is playing out is a complicated, often contradictory story. As we have reported And, of course, being a tourist anywhere right now is tough with the pandemic, shutting down most international travel, all of which makes a new book that offers insights into the lives of ordinary Saudis. In this moment, all the more welcome. It's called behind the Kingdom's Vale, its authors whose on a couple is a correspondent for Der Spiegel magazine, who lived and worked in the kingdom. She's on a couple welcome. Thank you very much happy to join. We're glad to have you with us. Your book tells the story of Saudi Arabia it's past its president. Through encounters that you had with all sorts of people. Sunni Shia men. Women rich, poorer, powerful, not so powerful. I want to start by talking about Nora because Nora was in many ways your entree into Saudi life. Who is she? That was really a stroke of luck to run into. Nor in almost the very beginning. When I moved there, she worked as the assistant off a businessman. Who are you Actually, she was the person who took me to all these places to weddings to food festivals to the desert to places where women only meet suddenly that was an accident, which was rare in which I enjoyed very much and we had so much fun, So actually, it was a wonderful person to accompany me Throughout this time it was living there. You nodded to a food festival. Tell mejust this sounds like such a normal outing heading out to a food festival with a girlfriend. What did it reveal to you about how life in Saudi He is changing. Actually, it was a complete exciting thing. It was the first time that something like this was happening in Saudi Arabia, which just a couple years ago was the kingdom of border just to go out with a friend on neat with other people, Men, possibly even and sit down somewhere. Have a chat with people you have never met before who do not belong to your family, for instance. That is something which was absolutely impossible. Impossible. Impossible is recently as what a decade ago five years ago. Actually, it's only like three years ago, I would say when I was living there every morning, there was another thing, which was absolutely impossible to imagine the day before music concerts. What? I knew somebody who was trying to learn an instrument. He had to drive to betrayal every week, 500 kilometers to get one lesson. And then when he came back, his family criticized hip to say what you wanted to do Music. I mean, people who do music. They also do other bad things. Like meeting women or drinking or other things, which are Haram Haram, meaning forbidden. It's so yes, on this person now is one of the hay started. A great career is a musician. Suddenly this became very normal, but before it was not I want to
Republicans distance themselves from Trump comments on transfer of power
"Are distancing themselves from President Trump's notion he may not commit to a peaceful transfer of power. More from NPR's Claudio Gonzalez, Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee says. If the election goes Joe Biden's way it will be a peaceful transition. We will have a peaceful transfer of power. However, the election here. Other Republicans agreed, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the chambers number two Republican John Thune of South Dakota. Senator Susan Collins, a moderate who is facing a tough re election fight in Maine, says she wasn't clear what Trump meant. But she dismissed the possibility that he could reject the election's results. It's fundamental House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy also expressed confidence there will be a peaceful transfer if Biden wins Claudia decide this NPR News, the
Thousands Of Airline Workers Facing Unemployment As Aid Package Stalls In Congress
"Is the airline industry. Air travel demand is down a wop a whopping 70% from last year and tens of thousands of airline pilots, flight attendants, a reservation agents and other industry workers are poised to lose their paychecks next week if Congress doesn't extend federal aid for airlines. NPR's David Shaper reports. A nation's airlines are at a crossroads. Or maybe I should say cross runways at the start of the year. On average about 2.5 million people were flying every day. Now that's plummeted to around 700,000, and until there are widely available vaccines or treatments for covert 19. Most passengers won't be coming back any time soon. You can't run an airline that a third the size it was and expect to keep all the same people. Elaine Backer is an airline industry analyst for investment Bank Cowan. I feel like in this country we've shifted from flattening the curve to waiting for a cure or a vaccine, and and that just means the pain is going to be longer in the cares act, Congress provided $25 billion a direct payroll support to the airlines so they could keep paying their employees through the end of September. Already, tens of thousands of workers have taken early retirement or other incentives to leave their jobs. But now the airlines air notifying another 75,000 that they may be out of a job. October 1st getting that for letter in the mail. Completely shocking. Isaiah Gonzalez is an aircraft maintenance worker for united at New York's LaGuardia Airport. The first thing that came to mind with how I was going to support my family people who depend on me. How was I going to keep the income? I was going to keep the family afloat, and Gonzalez is not alone. Me. Getting fellow is like this devastating. Tony Valentine is a reservations agent for United Airlines in Detroit. I have six that depend on me Arrange it age from 2 to 22, Valentine says. That's a houseful with a whole lot of bills. In addition, she says her husband suffered a serious stroke last year. And knowing that I may not have insurance to finishes is like I feel like I failed often at loggerheads. The unions representing these and other airline employees are now in rare harmony with airline CEOs in pressing Congress for a six month extension of the payroll support program. The industries in dire straits Nick Calio heads the industry group Airlines for America at one point Passenger traffic was down 96%. It's now down 70%. Still, one third of our planes are parked not flying, and we're losing $5 billion a month. The airlines unions and bipartisan majorities in Congress agree that the six months of payroll support worked in keeping airline employees off of unemployment rolls. In the tens of thousands of layoffs now might send shockwaves through the economy. Missouri Congressman Sam Graves is the ranking Republican on the House Transportation Committee. We absolutely cannot let an entire sector of the economy collapse, and that's exactly what will happen if we do not get this extension done yet. The airline funding is tied to broader Corona virus relief that the White House and Congress cannot agree upon. Here's American airline CEO Doug Parker. I just can't believe that we may not be able to do the right thing. Simply because our elected officials can't come to any sort of compromise agreement were better in that. Still, someone of providing billions Warren taxpayer money doesn't just put off the inevitable as airlines will need to restructure to match the reduced demand. Legislation that would extend payroll support for the airlines was introduced in the Senate this week. But if it isn't passed soon, thousands of airline employees may be out of work One week from today. David Shaper NPR news
Parents Sue Los Angeles Unified Over How It’s Handling Distance Learning
"Have filed a class action lawsuit against the L. A Unified school district. Lawsuit claims L. A USDA is remote learning plans fall short of providing students what they need to learn. More specifically says the district's distance learning planned violates the students right toe a basic public education under the California Constitution, and the black and Latino students, English learners and students with disabilities are disproportionately impacted. Dear Elizabeth, his lawyer at Kirkland and Ellis. That's the law agency representing the families, Pro bono. She pointed toe, low online participation rates and shorter workdays for teachers as glaring issues that have not been addressed. Even though L. A USD had 4 to 5 months to rectify the glaring deficiencies from the spring program. They failed. Several parents spoke at a press conference in downtown L a today, including cash, our Russia whose son is in the district. He fills us supporting his education. And I am afraid that my son is not prepared for the sixth grade. The work that my son is receiving is not challenging. His schedule was not consistent. And there have already been days in school that he has finished before. 10 A.m.. Allegations echo findings released by the district itself in July. The suit was filed in L. A Superior Court Today, California's community colleges are bracing for the longer
Judge deems Los Angeles in contempt over 'bulky item' notices
"Court. That's the conclusion of a federal judge who says the city defied her order by posting signs saying Bulky objects like mattresses and cards aren't allowed on the streets and will be removed. Case here. W's Larry Parole has more attorneys representing the homeless outreach group K Town for all, and several unhappy people complained that Ella had posted signs ahead of a cleanup in San Pedro and other areas, indicating that bulky items are always prohibited. According to the Times. They say the signs were posted before street sweeps earlier this year that require unhappy people to move their tents. They say that's wrong because people are likely to abandon their belongings, thinking they'll be removed because they have no idea the city is legally not allowed to do it. Judge Dale S. Fischer agreed yesterday pointed to her April ruling that Ella can't seize on House people's items solely based on their size. Instead of imposing fines or rewarding attorney fees, Fisher said. This city has to post what she called remedial notices for at least two weeks in the same areas where the improper notices were posted. She also directed the city to meet with the homeless advocates to come up with the new notice and file it with the court by the end of the month for K C, R W. On Larry
Protesters clash with police in Belarus after Lukashenko sworn in again
"To Belarus, where protests continue a month and a half after a presidential election and election, the U. S and its European allies say was neither free nor fair. Now the country's long time leader, Alexander Lukashenko, has been inaugurated for 1/6 term in a secret ceremony. NPR's Lucien Kim reports from Moscow on Wednesday morning Alexander Lukashenko's motorcade's race down Independence Avenue in the Belarussian capital Minsk. He entered the presidential residence filled with hundreds of his loyalists. The inauguration had not been announced, and no foreign delegations, not even from Russia. Lukashenko's strongest backers, Lukashenko took the oath of office with his right hand on the constitution, swearing to serve the Belarussian people. Whether they still want to be served by him is another question. Lukashenko's claimed have 1 80% of the vote in August presidential election sparked weeks of protests and a brutal police crackdown on demonstrators condemned by human rights organizations. Lukashenko's main opponent, Svetlana Tekin. Oska called the inauguration ceremony a farce and said she was the only leader chosen by the Belarussian people. The Russians again took to the streets rat. You're fired, demonstrators chanted in the town of breast and video shared widely on social media. Lukashenko has angered many Belarussians by calling peaceful protesters. Rats.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg lies in repose at US Supreme Court
"Ruth Bader Ginsburg is lying in repose at the Supreme Court from member station W. AM You Daniela Chazz, Low reports, Mourners felt a personal connection. Mourners poured in from across the country 21 year old college student Riley Busby says she traveled three hours from Williamsburg, Virginia, to walk past Ginsberg's casket. Then, Busby said across the street from the high court for hours, even though it's cut in Sicily. It feels like what I leave. She's gone and we've lost her. When it was spend as much time as I can write here with one of my heroes. Many of those who came to remember the late justice were masks bearing pictures of Ginsberg's face, and some carried flowers and posters that justice will lie in repose again Thursday at the court, and on Friday, she will be the first woman to lie in state at the U. S. Capitol. For NPR News. I'm Daniella Chess Bow in Washington Kentucky
California mandates all new vehicles be zero-emission by 2035
"Order order that that will will prevent prevent the the sale sale of of new new gasoline gasoline powered powered vehicles vehicles in in California California starting in 2035. The move is part of the state's aggressive agenda to address climate change. KCR W. Gillom has more on what this means for drivers. In L. A County alone, There are more than 6.5 Million registered autos. Governor Newsome is banking on California's massive volume to convince car manufacturers to make the switch to zero emission technologies in the next 15 years were 50% of the market in the United States, so the adaptation is significant in this state. It's grown exponentially. Over the last number of years. More models more choice for consumers coming out and hopefully lower prices. While 2035 is the deadline for all new cars and light trucks to be zero emissions, heavy duty trucks and big rigs need to make the switch by 2045. This order bans the sale of new gas powered vehicles so Californians will still be allowed to drive and resell their old fossil fuel power vehicles. The environmental defense Funds head Fred Krupp tells the AP. Newsome's order will both cut pollution and position the state to be a hub for manufacturing zero emissions vehicles. California marijuana
Chief Justice John Roberts pays tribute to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
"Of fighter and a winner. Just some of the words Chief Justice John Roberts used today to describe his colleague, the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Ginsberg, who died last week of pancreatic cancer, was honored at a private ceremony today in the Great Hall of the Supreme Court, where the chief justice hailed her as a pivotal force for women's rights. It has been said that Ruth wanted to be an opera virtuoso. It became a rock star instead. But she chose the law. Subjected to discrimination in law school and the job market because she was a woman, Ruth would grow to become the leading advocate fighting such discrimination in court. Ginsberg's flag draped coffin or a casket was placed at the top of the court's front steps of the public and pay their respects to just the second woman to serve on the high court. Justice Ginsburg was 87 years old.
Tesla, Inc. Held it's 2020 Annual Shareholder Meeting
"Pandemic. It was like a drive in movie there was an outdoor stage with the audience in parked cars. For weeks. A big announcement on better car batteries was promised. However, Tesla's stock collapsed. It closed down 5% yesterday, and it's down another 3% in pre market trading at the moment. Marketplaces. Kristen Drop is here. What did the Tesla boss say about these new batteries? The plan is for Tesla to manufacture its own batteries to improve vehicle driving range in power. Tesla currently buys batteries from other makers, and if they're produced in house, it'll bring the cost of the cars down. Right now, A model three. It's cheapest vehicle is $38,000 Musk is aiming for a $25,000 price tag. So why did stockholders get on their phones and start pressing cell? Well, The manufacturing plan for these new batteries isn't done and we won't see them in Tesla's for a few years, which means right now, Musk is just making promises, and he's known for over promising plus. The announcement fell short of what investors were expecting. Musk spent the last several days playing up what he would unveil on what his team branded Battery Day. Shareholders thought they were getting something called a million Mile battery, which is good for at least 10 years and would allow Tesla to price it scars below that of gas powered cars. And remind us about all this after hours premarket trading when the NASDAQ market is
House Passes Stopgap Funding Measure to Keep Government Open
"Jack Spear a stopgap funding bill to keep the government running through December. 11th passed the house late this evening. The legislation must still be approved by the Senate and signed by President Trump, where the government would face another shutdown threat in eight days more from NPR, Susan Davis The legislation will keep the government funded through December 11th. It passed with overwhelming bipartisan support, but only after a partisan dust up over farm and nutrition eight. The initial bill lacked more than 20 billion, requested by the Trump Administration for the Commodity Credit Corporation, which provides aid to American Farmer's House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the president of using it as a political slush fund. But there was pushback from House Democrats in farm states who advocated for including the funds. That position ultimately prevailed. The bill also expands nutrition assistance for school Children to continue to receive meals while learning remotely. Susan Davis. NPR NEWS Washington Even
Michigan Offers Free College Education To Essential Workers
"Is offering two years of free community college two essential workers who've worked during the pandemic. The definition is loose and more than 600,000 residents could qualify. But what does that do to the makeup of frontline workers as the Corona virus pandemic? Continues
Post Malone and Billie Eilish among 2020 Billboard Music Awards nominees
"And the Billboard Music Awards were delayed because the Corona virus outbreak, but the nominations were finally announced this morning and post. Malone leads the way with 16 Billy. I'll ish is close behind with a dozen This year's billboard Music Awards will be broadcast live from the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood next month. But how the show is going to look during the pandemic that is still a mystery.
UK leader: Britain at “perilous turning point,” scraps back-to-work drive, tightens restrictions amid virus resurgence
"The prime minister of the UK announced new pandemic restrictions to help get the Corona virus under control. Mr Speaker. We will spare no effort in developing vaccines treatments. New forms of mass tested. But unless we palpably make progress, we should assume that the restrictions I've announced will remain in place. For perhaps six months. Great. Britain had been making the opposite of progress after a summer when life largely returned to normal Corona virus numbers in the UK Rose, NPR London correspondent Frank Langfitt is living all of this. Hey there, Frank. Hey, Steve. What of the restrictions and how big a difference is it? Yeah, it's one of things is sort of a curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants are going to have to close at 10 P.m. Bar's Johnson also telling people to work from home if they can to avoid spreading the disease, which is a reversal of the government's position. This is coming after we're up to about 6000 Day in terms of cases, and this is what Johnson also had to say in the House of Commons today. This is the moment when we must act. If we can curb the number of daily infections on DH, reduce the reproduction rate toe one Then Then we we can can save save lives lives protected protected in in a a chest chest on on the the most most vulnerable vulnerable and and shelter shelter the the economy. economy. And And what what he's he's saying saying here. here. Steve Steve is is the the UK UK needs needs to to do do this this now now to avoid the kind of lock down that we saw back in March, which devastated a lot of businesses here, Okay, reducing the reproduction rate to one. That's a statistic he wants each new person on average tow infect less than one new person, although just saying the pub should close it. 10. Is that really a big enough change to make a difference? No, Steve. Most people don't seem to say that I see it that way. And I will include my daughter, Catherine in that she actually works our neighborhood pub and I talked about it this morning. And she says, you know, Late at night. People do get drunk, They become affectionate and there's a lot of ignoring of social distancing, so it will help to close down a little bit earlier, But last call there was at 11 o'clock anyway, so we'll be cutting time, much in that in that pub, and she doesn't think it's going to make that much of a difference, nor, frankly, I think to a lot of people here in England who have heard these measures today. I guess it does make some difference of people do work from home instead of going into the office, if somewhere and that will help. I mean, I think that I think that that will help some a lot of people that we're not going in right now, anyway, a lot of people out of convenience and otherwise they're staying out of London. What's the scientific community saying about these measures? I think something that it needs to go further than what the Gover what Boris Johnson is talking about. Other measures could include no mixing of households or a locked down for a couple of weeks that would try to put the brakes on the virus. It's clear that the government's deeply worried about the economy and doesn't want to go that far right now because the economy's been improving, actually Steve in the past couple of 23 months, and it doesn't want that stop. Now you go into hibernation, so to speak for another six months, according to Boris Johnson, is the country ready, though, if there is a big second wave It's better In some ways, you know, they figured out ways to use steroids to cut the fatality rate. And so that's been very positive. But on the testing front, we don't have the kind of testing system that we hope to many many months ago and cure Starmer. He's the leader of the opposition Labour Party, and today this is what he had to say to Johnson. We warned the promise two months ago that testing need to be fixed by the autumn, but the government didn't listen. They pretended it wasn't a problem. They didn't act quickly enough. Now the testing system isn't working just when we need it. And I got to tell you, Steve, this is a critique you here across the country. Most people I know are stunned that after all these months, the government has not been able to build a testing system that will meet demand.
Los Angeles tourism and hotels take serious hits from pandemic
"The hotels are doing. Industry called Leisure and Hospitality is a huge economic driver in greater L. A. It employs a lot of folks you probably know And of course, a lot of those jobs have gone away. Some of those jobs may never come back after this pandemic. The Times reports that one in four hotels Struggling to pay their mortgage and is at risk of foreclosure. Adam Burke is president and CEO of the tourism and Convention. Bored and Heather Roseman is executive director of the Hotel Association of Los Angeles. Welcome to you above Thanks so much, Steve. It's great to be on. Good morning, Heather. I want to start with you. First of all, how many hotels Does the greater Los Angeles area have The greater Los Angeles area has a combination of hotels, motels and bed and breakfasts somewhere in the neighborhood of about 1200. Do they all have to close those hotels? When everything Shut down. I'm thinking back in Middlemarch. When Ella did the stay at home orders or did some hotels managed to stay open because business was still happening, right? The hotel industry was deemed an essential business. At the beginning of the pandemic. We were working to service a couple of government projects, starting with the state of California, looking for rooms to have passengers that were disembarking from cruise ships quarantine for 14 days. From there. We started working with the L. A county to find rooms for covert isolation as well as what then evolved into Project Room Key. So that's something that we're going to talk about in a few moments here on this program, are you starting to see some of those hotels reopen again? Our people venturing out arm or tourists coming back to L. A. I mean, what kind of numbers are you seeing there? During the outside of the pandemic. Hotels did suspend operations in many cases, not knowing exactly whether or not they were allowed to be open. As of last week. We still have 38 hotels that are are closed and we're not sure if those are going to be a temporary or permanent closure, but during the pandemic 157 hotels Did shut down. Initially We are starting to see some of that leisure travel returned to the market. But as we see the occupancy rates rise, we have to consider that the hotels are still operating at a very limited crew. As thie bookings are still only about 50% maximum. Adam occupancy rate, obviously is an important number. You just heard Heather's say, 50%. What's what's the occupancy rate typically in Allah? Well, First of all, I like to reiterate what Heather said. Which is, you know, this has really been devastating for our industry with a lot of your listeners may not realize Steve is prior to the pandemic. Our leisure and hospitality sector was actually the third largest employer in Los Angeles County, representing about one out of every 8.5 jobs across the county. So While we've seen job loss of about one out of every three jobs in leisure and hospitality that's been even more dramatic for the hotel's prior to the pandemic, though, to your question we were seeing average occupancy is in the city about 83% and, you know, Fortunately, we started to see some gradual recovery. But that had declined to his low is about 20% with a lot of hotels, actually sitting in the single digits Right now we're seeing occupancies that are in the 40% range, and it really to your point is being fueled by locals. It's really Angelino starting to safely and responsibly. Get out and take staycations right here in their own backyard. I want to. I want to talk about that, because one of the things that you guys have been doing I know is pushing more Angelenos. To go out and stay in local hotels. If you're able to how do you suppose did I mean it? Is there a conflict with you guys? When you say Well, we want you to go stay at a hotel. But there is this pandemic still happening. Yeah, it's a great question. So the first of all, I will say we've actually been working with the Los Angeles Department of County Health to develop safety protocols for all the various sectors of our industry. So that we can make sure that we are protecting our guests were protecting our employees. Equally important, So the idea of pushing people to get out in about probably, I would say it a little bit differently, Which is what we've done is We've put together a program called Love, which is really by Angelinos for Angelenos. So we've put together over 100 special offers, including not just hotels, but our local attractions in restaurants so that for people who are comfortable getting out and about it's more affordable and easier to dio. And you know when people ask, what can I do? We know, for example, that if those who have the means had just three visits to a local attraction or museum, supported three of our local restaurants and had just won three night stay. In an area hotel that would actually help us recover over 21,000 jobs in L, a county and what it would inject about $1.4 billion back into our local business community. Heather, How
Los Angeles County Jail Population Is Back Up Above State Overcrowding Limits
"Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, reporting in the L. A County jail population is increasing again after earlier efforts to drop it by roughly 5000 inmates to prevent the spread of code with 19 the number of prisoners Has pushed the population by nearly 15% of the county has found itself back over the state's overcrowding limits. The numbers are partially attributed to restrictions off inmate transfers to state prisons or hospitals during the pandemic.
Autopsies Show Inmates' Lungs Filling With Fluid As They're Executed
"In a high security prison in Terre Haute, Indiana. Two federal inmates await their executions when tomorrow the next on Thursday as they wait. Their lawyers are asking the court to intervene because they say The drugs used to kill. The inmates will cause their lungs to fill with fluid as they die, and that in their final moments, they could experience the sensation of drowning. Those fears aren't unfounded, and just a quick warning for listeners. What you're about to hear may be upsetting. In the spring of 2017 on Arkansas inmate gasped and choked as he was executed the following year. In Ohio, an inmate heaved against his restraints struggling for air and a few months after that, in Tennessee, once again on inmate gasping for air and convulsing. All of these inmates were later found to have lungs filled with fluid. Now we can't ask them how painful their executions were, whether They amounted to cruel and unusual punishment, But what we can do is peer inside their bodies. For the past two years, a team and all things considered has been investigating the autopsies of inmates killed by lethal injection. We've obtained the largest collection of these autopsies ever assembled in the U. S. This collection spans decades of executions across the multiple states, and what our findings reveal is evidence of a death far less peaceful than what states promised when they adopted lethal injection decades ago. We begin the story in Atlanta, where I went in 2018 with producer Noah Caldwell to meet a doctor who made a startling discovery. Joel Zip. It works 80 hour weeks at Emory University Hospital. He's an anesthesiologist checking in on patients in the ice for you. So if temperatures is looking a little grade, and did you get to say, perhaps Mediate those? A few years ago, federal defenders in Georgia hired zip it to review a few autopsies of inmates executed by lethal injection. What I was asked The address was the blood levels of certain kinds of medications, but something else caught his eye and recognize that something was amiss. What did you see in the autopsy? So I began to see a pattern of organ failure instead of what I thought would be pristine findings instantaneous death. I began to see a picture that was more consistent with a slower death a death associated with suffering a painful death in autopsy after autopsy. What zip it saw were unusually heavy lungs, lungs swollen with fluid, which surprised him. It's not a common finding in autopsies. It's something you'd see in cases of, say. Congestive heart failure or sepsis, neither of which were happening here. He wanted a second opinion. So he contacted a colleague at Emory, a pathologist named Mark Edgar. I said I want you to look at these documents and just tell me what you think you see here because I think I'm seeing something here. That is a surprise to me now. Zip. It deliberately did not tell Edgar what had surprised him in those autopsies. But anger. He zeroed in on the exact same thing that zip it did. Lungs filled with fluid. He noticed frothy fluid in the nose. Same word kept popping up frothy material in the main bronc I the word frothy, frothy fluid in the upper and Lower airways. What they were seeing was a severe form of a condition called pulmonary, a Dema. Presence of froth was a troubling clue because it meant that inmates were still alive and trying to breathe as their lungs were filling with fluid. Xzibit and Edgar got a few dozen more autopsies from other states just to see Was this a fluke and similar words like frothy and fluid kept coming up to describe the lungs. It was a stunning finding, because here was some physical document that could answer a question that could otherwise not be answered, which was What exactly is the experience of a dying inmate? Ziva brought these findings to federal court in multiple states. It's evidence that is now at the forefront of legal challenges to lethal injection. For the past two years, The team at NPR has undertaken its own investigation. We expanded the scope of the data significantly, we obtained more than 300 inmate autopsies through Freedom of Information Act requests. They cover executions in nine states dating from 1992 2019. And what these autopsies show is that when inmates lungs or examined after their executions, pulmonary oedema occurred 84% of the time that was consistent across states. Medical experts say these findings are troubling. Because they mean it is very likely these inmates experience the sensation of drowning or suffocation before they die, and that many inmates were not being properly anesthetized.
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"KCRW this is the national conversation with All Things Considered I'm Scott Simon over eighty two thousand people in the world have died from the corona virus to date the global medical community of course has been working around the clock to try to make a vaccine covert nineteen cases increased by the thousands the use of various medications has been widely debated use a bit of some of the questions on this topic and we have some answers we're joined now by Dr G. news shows Johnny a rheumatologist from the university of California San Francisco and NPR science correspondent Joe Palca doctor goes down let me apologize in advance if I mispronounced your name I'll try and do better next time at let me ask both you and where Joe Palca first one drug we've been hearing a lot about of course is hydroxy clerk when before we go into answering questions what is it this was a drug that was originally developed I think around World War two as an alternative to quinine to treat the malaria and that at some point people notice that it had an interesting I'm positive effect on patients with rheumatoid arthritis so it was used for that for a while it seems to have some impact on the immune system and then at some point again people decided to try it since they were trying a lot of things as a therapy for this nuke corona virus and the first evidence was that from testing in the laboratory look fairly promising but these are just sells of course so then they tried it in people and there was some limited success in China's small study and there was some limited studies success in France and it it's suddenly caught on now why we're talking about it well I think that has a lot to do with our president whose who's been relentlessly pushing it and saying how confident he is that it'll be helpful well that'll introduce our first question from David in Houston I was wondering why trump and his administration are pushing hydrochloric when when inspections disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci has argued against its effectiveness in the fight against carbon nineteen okay guys Downey thanks again for being with us what are doctors scientists health care workers say about this it's a great great question from David some very small poorly controlled or uncontrolled studies from France and China demonstrated the hydroxy Corp when may have benefits but the study's really had serious methodological flaws when we review them carefully and therefore you know this evidence should should be considered inconclusive at this time the bottom line is that the treatment is experimental and we need randomized well controlled trials to know if hydroxy Cork when is useful at all to treat cove in nineteen another question from Elon in Poughkeepsie New York I thinking in hardcore going for ten years Fuhrman character right as his afford me any protection from the virus doctor goes down they pay any evidence so we don't have any evidence at this time that people with rheumatoid or arthritis or lupus taking hydroxy Cork when are protected from cold at nineteen in fact data that we've collected over the last few weeks suggests that people with these conditions are getting infected and therefore telling my patients not to let their guard down they should continue to you know follow strict social distancing if they can Nancy in California has a question that the economy grows out of that she writes I'm concerned that the interest in the drug as a possible treatment for corona virus will restrict the availability of the drug for legitimate uses are you concerned about that doctor for you and your patience I am concerned about a drug shortages and we're hearing about them from patients all over the country this can be a serious problem because interruptions and and treatments can lead to autoimmune disease flare ups and so I'm recommending that my patients call different pharmacies in their area including mail order pharmacies if they're running into shortages if you have a question by the way for doctor Yazdani and NPR's Joe Palca you consent to us at NPR dot org slash national conversation or share it on social media using the hashtag NPR conversation a lot lots of questions also about Advil and ibuprofen here's Jordan from Sacramento should I avoid taking ibuprofen right now during this pandemic I work at a Medical Center Sacramento we haven't experienced a surge of covered patients yet but we are preparing for if it does come for the taking ibuprofen feeds coronavirus is that true doctors Downey does it so Jordan at this time there's no evidence that ibuprofen is is harmful but this concern initially arose because of sars corona virus to the virus that causes code nineteen binds to ourselves via a receptor called east to and this receptor is increased and I be approached by ibuprofen in animal experiments and so there was really a hypothetical concern that this might worsen infection in humans however we can't extrapolate those animal experiments to humans and we don't have any data to that the fact that humans what about Tylenol I don't know it's safe to take and it might even be a better choice for older patients because as a better safety profile for for people that have underlying conditions like kidney disease next question is about food supplements Pawling New York I understand the immune response can be one of the causes for longer out there organ failure is it dangerous to take too many media supplements including zinc vitamin C. Dr Dani is immune response partly responsible for organ failure what we know about food supplements under the circumstances so they get their minions response can actually cause serious problems in the later stages of covert nineteen so it's a legitimate concern but we don't know if supplements help code nineteen infection and I usually supplements taken at lower recommended doses are safe but I would avoid taking megadoses of these vitamins vitamin C. and zinc can cause nausea or other gastrointestinal symptoms and high doses of vitamins like vitamin D. can cause even more serious problems like high blood calcium levels and so I I would recommend caution assurance from Texas asked of have patience our got seasonal flu shot get well quicker or have fewer symptoms what about those who got an ammonia shot let me ask your doctor has done any correlation it's an excellent question Sherrin vaccinations against flu and pneumonia can be helpful and that's primarily because they decrease the risk of having a simultaneous infection with Corbett nineteen but we have been seeing reports of patients were co infected with viruses like flu and cold at nineteen and we worry that this will lead to a more severe disease course Dr junior shows Johnny is a rheumatologist in university of California San Francisco thanks for being with us a and m-commerce NPR science correspondent Joe Palca if you have questions for us about small businesses or child care please let us know you can send us your questions to NPR dot org slash national.
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"KCRW this is the month radio hour from PRX I'm Jennifer Hicks and I last two stories are from the mob stories lands and each slam we provide a microphone stage a theme and an audience folks show up with stories to tell and we pick ten of them each person gets five minutes at the end of the night judges from the audience pick the winner this first story from fishing for fifteen was progress Mister Schubert live with a long growing up in the south there was a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and right way was to do what your family and society thought you should do and the wrong way was to do something different by age thirty I had done most everything I should do I had ever achieved in high school I attended a prestigious college in the south hi very important job I'd married well within the childbearing agent except for moving out nor switch because my family to collectively take to their beds I was on track with what we thought my why should look like that I wouldn't happy and I knew it was my job in my family we were expected to be in business and I've been in public relations for seven years but I didn't like the work anymore I mean I was good at it but I was tired of working for clients like retail banking traffic reporting hazardous waste recycling nothing that really blew my skirt at so I quit my full time job and I started consulting and I started taking classes to figure out what else I could do with my life and I found this brochure for the school of the museum of fine arts in Boston I thought well this looks interesting and I went to the continuing education director and I asked him which classy daughter to take and he said you need to take art is process we take burn out executives in that class all the time it's my first day of art school I try my best to look artsy to fit in even though I'm not wearing pearls they are in blaze and on my chest students range from early teens to late fifties and they're all there for different reasons and seasoned artist wanna jump starting younger artists want to build a portfolio summer professional others blocked I just feel really out of place and road our instructor introduces herself and she says there is no right way to make art and there is no wrong way to make art and this makes me extremely nervous because I had been raised that there is a right way and a wrong way to do most everything I just as in the class is going to focus on process the process of art making not the end result and this makes me more nervous because I've been raised to focus on in results and not just any in results but the best in results and there are no grades things careen out of control if there are no grades how will I know if I'm over cheating I need to know I'm over a cheating we start with the basics in my entire life I have never held a stick of charcoal in my hand and it feels good and I survived the first week of simple or exercises and I enjoy myself and the next week Bob one of the three instructor says today we're gonna do gesture drawings very fast drawings about forty five second poses and we're going to draw the energy and the movement in the essence of the figure and I'm thinking what the heck is essence and how the heck do you draw anime and the orders model starts to undress and I say no that's okay you've seen a naked man before you've even had sex with a naked man your problem is you don't know how to draw this naked man's essence and everybody else apparently does know how to draw his essence is you're basically getting out their easels and knowingly getting out sheets of paper and charcoal and other drawing mediums with which they excel and I'm just standing there like the proverbial deer in headlights and I began to watch and imitate because I am clueless but competitive and I asked you you is standing next to me and also mature student I see Judy what are the supposed to look like because of course I think there's only one right way to do this they're all going to draw the same image and she looks at me bewildered and says they're all going to look different I'm paralyzed what is mine supposed to look why can't I just do a slide presentation your board of directors says customer service capabilities conducted communications on it these are things I know how to do things in which I excel and I'd like to excel and there is no way I'm going to excel drawing this naked me its essence I stand there and I consider crying and then the competitive side of me cakes and I say just snap out of it you big wimp and do something so I started making these helpless stick figures every forty five seconds because that's how fast the poses are every forty five seconds and every forty five seconds I feel like a total failure which is a lot of times in one hour it's AT and a shame is enormous and I am so mortified how inept I and I and beating myself up for every tempting anything different for even trying anything new and I'm in a literal physical pain I'm so far out of my comfort level I mean I actually hurt and I consider crying again and that's when Bob comes over to me and shows me what an amazing teachers can do I don't even know what he says all I know is he talks me off the legend breaks that vice grip the had a hold of me and I start to draw at the end of class Bob takes one of my gesture drawings with to put on the wall with a bunch of other student drawings to discuss them and no one laughs at me or my drawing it actually holds it soon I have drawn a naked man I feel like I can do anything thank it was traditional rooms for the more stories she grew up in Tampa Florida but also played some strong Tennessee roots she left the corporate world.
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"KCRW sponsors include FOX pictures based on a true story, can you ever forgive me stars Melissa McCarthy as Lee Israel, an author who turns her art into deception when she can't make ends meet in select theaters tomorrow. I'm Michael silver blunt this bookworm, and I'm talking with Tommy orange about his book. They're they're a study a story of twelve urban Indians whose lives converge at the big Oakland, pal. Now, I say the big Oakland Powell, but that's a construct right? This isn't a big Oakland. There isn't there's there's been various different small ones throughout the bay area over time. And I've been on a committee that put went together nothing on the scale of what I made up. There are that the big ones in stadiums at different parts of the country that I was basing it on. It's it's not going to complete fabrication. But there's nothing like that in Oakland. Well, you mentioned a janitor. And that he belongs in fiction. I got a letter. And I'm hoping the person who read it as listening. I got a letter from a listener who sent Michael. I'm a janitor. I dropped out of high school. I didn't go to college. I never liked English class. But I've been listening to your show. And once I'm not sure why I picked up one of the books you were talking about. And in the process, I made friends with the guy who owns the used bookstore in my town. We read these books together. Now, I never would have dreamt it was possible. But I am a reader because of your show. And so, you know, getting a letter like that were you putting characters who wouldn't normally be in fiction into your book. These are. I know what sappy these are acts of salvation, and that's our job here on earth. To help others have the things that allowed us to stay alive for me that was reading that was books. I don't know what it was that didn't click with me rating. You know, I wasn't a good student, and they sort of regular are there what teachers would say like, he's not applying himself or whatever. I read certain books along the way. And I never caught whatever it is. When you realize how meaningful reading particularly fiction for me for whatever reason. I it didn't happen for me. Intil know I was twenty four twenty four years old, and I was working at used bookstore. And and there was a single moment where the novel, particularly something just clicked, and I realized like, oh, this is this is what novelist is. And it was it was about one hundred pages into a confederacy of dunces. I was on a break from from the east bookstore. I was eating a Donut and reading Ignatius in sort of a perfect combination of events. And that was the moment. There's another moment with Chile Plath in the bell jar, and she was doing something with the image of the bell jar. And it was just the most profound thing to me. And I just didn't know you could do I mean, that's the thing about reading and fiction and. People who don't know they love it. You can do something with consciousness and with thinking and writing a novel is another way of thinking like a better way of thinking thing delillo said that somewhere just something wakes up any of that you didn't know as possible. That's what I love about reading. How it explores consciousness, and how much you can do that in some ways, you will never be able to really express what it's doing the first novel that made me wanna be novels was Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass why because I was sick and tired of people talking sense to me I wanted to hear nonsense. I mean later on we got talking heads and stop making sense. But I needed them the adults around me to stop making so much sense. All the time knife was already painful, it's more painful when you're a child. If you're lucky you grow out of some of that pain, some people who don't grow out of it become riders. Think that's an accurate description? I think it is. And I guess, you know, I'm always in some sense looking for books like yours like there there that have buried in them. A hidden set of instructions were structures the characters here are all they all have something to teach one another, but they rarely meet other. So you the reader are learning what the characters have to teach each other, even if they can never tell each other. And that's struck me as being whether that's the way, you would put it or not it struck me as being brilliant device because you know, most of the time we don't get to teach anyone anything, but sometimes the reader. Can be the beneficiary of all sorts of instruction. I think you know, some people will say like who's your audience, or do you think of the reader when you write and often people will say like, no you stick to your artistic vision. But for me at some point in my development as a writer, I came to this probably sounds basic. But this idea that that you have to keep the reader in mind, and this became very important to me that that I was wanting to meet the reader at a halfway point. And that reading is an experience is sort of communion with with another mind, and to communicate things as clearly and as well as possible became one of the most important aspects to well the way I was writing. But a certain point I'm curious you become a student. The MSA program at the institute of American Indian arts, and that must be one of the moments of deciding to keep the audience in mind that there are people you're talking to who need you. And I wonder how you felt about your time there. I mean, I I loved my experience there, you know. In wanting to publish the book mainly wanted to get a teaching job there. I loved it so much and that ended up happening plus a lot more, obviously. But my main goal was to get a teaching job because I like teaching and now like the community there. It was around that time that I was thinking of the reader and thinking of audience probably the first half of writing the book was just you know, in a vacuum pretty much and in the second half was in a community. So it was at that point that turning point for a long time. People were at me. To read Jewish fiction, and I was afraid of reading fiction about things and people that I already knew because they were American Jews. They would probably they probably had figured out how to live. I didn't have the. Lower upper-class Jewish existence. That was being written about buying you name. It Philip Roth or Saul bellow or all these people how at ease were you in defining and seeing yourself to find as an native American writer. Well, actually, you know the. The beginning of reading for me was not with native earning at all. A lot of the reservation writing reservation based or rural based stuff actually made me feel more isolated and less like a native writer or like, I I don't belong there. And so I didn't read a lot. You know, we were talking earlier about South American writers and listed different people. That were my favorites. I read a lot of work in translation, and that spoke to me for whatever reason. And so took a very long time to circle back to, you know, aside from John Kennedy tool and Sylvia Plath took a long time for me to get back to to this country. And some of the writers that I now Dennis Johnson became really big for me because he was writing ugly. Beautiful way. When I read their there by my guest today, Tommy orange. I was really thrilled to be reading writing. That was not fulfilling people's ethnic desires for more ethnicity in fiction. It seemed to be abound. Good writing whether ethnic or not the first criteria. Is it good? Is it good? Is it moving has. It never been seen before has. It never been said before am I giving my people and others as well a sensible life. They don't know because when I fell to build there. There was not only was there there there in Oakland. I felt that there was a there there in the book, and I hadn't seen. A neighborhood into suet two of the modern soared as well captured as the neighborhood that you can't hear in your novel there there. Thank you. Among the many reasons, I love literature is. These little moments that you catch where you. You've only ever maybe thought it and the author hits.