8 Burst results for "K. D. A"
"kda" Discussed on Way Too Broad
"They don't exist in the game except in the schools, either. They just sort of exist in the world of Riot advertising. I find the whole League of Legends like all the media a religious is so cool and the Lord and like the the game itself makes no sense to me at all and feels like it has no connection to the stuff around it. But pretty Trump. Okay, the k'da itself in a band with the name. Kta is entirely an invention of League of Legends, but the musicians who perform the songs are actual. Yeah, like popular musicians and something like I think it's like well actually it's changed between this iteration of KD and the last 30 different musicians some some of them but like I think it's like two people from a K-Pop group. And then a like to American or Canadian singers and then also one of the singers new person the added I didn't notice this actually until my friend pointed out she sings in Chinese in the latest video. Oh, I didn't realize and which makes a lot of sense because part of this like the reason their their new stuff School knows cuz it's like during the League of Legends World Championships, which actually the finals happen today and like KD. I did one of those live performances where they're like Holograms home. Oh, wow, which they've done before and they released that new song in world is happening in China this year. So and also China is like a massive fucking player base off or it's like the biggest so it made sense. They added some Chinese music instead of just Korean English. So Aaron, have you seen you've seen not seeing pop stars or the new one more song? No. No, I don't. I I saw that there was chatter about it and nerd talk in the selected Channel, but I haven't I didn't watch any of these videos. I didn't know just there's okay. I don't know if we want to have like a watch along right now, It's not a full-on Obsession, but I'm going to send them to you and I'll put links in the description and I just wanted to say these songs are so fun. They get stuck in my head constantly. They basic package have like three songs out now, but as KDA, the first one was popstars, which came out in 2019 and oh the video for some reason shows upload and 2019. Okay, but that makes more sense. So the the song the song and the video came out in 2018, please upload sneaky. I'm going to take that off. Back and sent you. Yeah, you can't really hear Henry barking and the background now working at the other person who lives in this house has gotten home home like growling. I haven't sent you a little early early did. Okay, so there's So there is the original pop stars is the name of the song pop stars, which I loved loved loved everything about it the video the song it's actually also available as like a bonus song in a beat saber and I play it all the time beat saber. Love it. Love it. Love it love it. And then the new video just came out is first song called more. I didn't like the video as much the first time I watched it. I agree with Ben it's better off you continue to watch it more and more and the song listening to the song on its own..
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"So they've got to be a vital part of this This whole discussion and they are So in Kentucky There's drafts bills that are going through right now and I think we will see Some some legislation this year slowly. So there's one last question I want to wrap it up with as we as we kind of finish. This is that kind of bringing you back to Kentucky There is a there is also a turf war also going on here as well you know. I think Mayor Fisher always said it best. He goes he goes. You know our sounds the Bourbon. Capital World but Louisville. Is the epicenter so kind of talk about? Where does the Katie a? Are you just kind of like? Hey I'm sweating Switzerland and say we're Switzerland. We would we would. Burbot isn't right. Did you say urbanism? Just then you have to drink. If every time Greg Fischer says Bourbon is. I mean you have to drink lou. Louisville has led the way. There's no doubt about it even before I took this job. Louisville was promoting Kentucky Bourbon and Bourbon country and things and in doing a fantastic job at it and other cities are just now evolving in. Bardstown is one of them You know what for five years ago you had Willett and that was about it. Well you know you had hill. Obviously but they did have a distillery. There you had the visitor center but from from an actual operating distillery. You had Willett Haven't had a great bizzare center one of the first visitor centers and is still you know the epicenter of bars down But now you've got looks row and bars down Bourbon Company and preservation. And you know now. They're getting hotels. You know there. Yeah and that's been one of the biggest you know People you know concerned about Marston is because there was really not many places to stay And again you know you go to lull and not their Bill Hotel Week there and you got the dining experience and everything else so so yes so other communities are really stepping up their game now Because THEY UNDERSTAND. You know that the your typical Bourbon tourists is a very affluent demographic right They're a younger demographic. They've gotten money to spend their staying longer. They're coming impacts. And so that's why you see Owensboro Lexington Pike full. You Know Northern Kentucky really upping its game with the Belan Yeah Northern Kentucky's bringing it hard. They are you know. So so yes. We support all all of these people that you you can't have enough of that sort of stuff but we do like to have fun. Mayor Shekels when when embarrassed when he was mayor Every time Mayor Fischer would say something about You know little being the center of the epicenter. There'd be a phone call between them and we'd like to have fun with them at each other. Sometimes so it's it's a lot of lighthearted joking but don't kid yourself. Those phrases are all trademarked right. I mean they're serious about this debt levels. Now you know promoting itself as Bourbon city. You know which is a new campaign. That's great It IT'S AGAIN. It's fun to watch I don't think I said we. We ever expected to get to this level this fast and so that's why the main question we always get. Is You know how like how long can it last wins? The bubble burst in an quote. Me Or Fisher. I still think we're in the APP. I think the third he always a second. Yeah I think we're the third inning of this and you haven't even begun to scratch surface on the ceiling of Web. Urban remember? The history of Bourbon is always just about like how is consumed. It's just the consumers consuming it now. We have an entire lifestyle around. We have tourism so th there's hotter cast on it there's podcast there's par magazine. Bourbon authors winning Bourbon a Bourbon. Show declined his head explode over here not at all but you. You're exactly right. I mean there's so much out there and as long as we you know our job is to make sure that the focus is on Kentucky Bourbon narrate the. That's our job because you've got over two thousand distilleries now in all fifty states And if one of them becomes the next maker's mark you know again not only does that hurt Kentucky it. You know it hurts. Our image hurts our visitor ship. It hurts everything because Kentucky Bourbon dress. Were no awesome. And if you think about it you know the job that the Katie has done in the last ten fifteen years it has given us the opportunity to make our livings talking about Bourbon so can't say no to the. It's pretty awesome if we had a bourbon with this I'd say cheers but maybe this afternoon absolutely responsible always respond respond to this constantly. So Eric I'm GonNa say thank you for coming on the show. Today it was a pleasure to just to again. Hear about your background and really where the growth of urban is going in your mind and all the effort that maybe people don't really know that the Katie puts in behind the scenes the influenced the government. And make sure that everything's happening to make sure that it's delays are happy. Make sure that consumers are happy today. Because I think it's GonNa be a win win for everything. It's an honor. Thank y'all for for having me but it is. It really is an honored i. It's my dream job to work for these distilleries and to get to spend time with you know not only the old guard. The Jimmy Russell's Nabil Samuels the world and we just want val young of months ago in And the new guard what. We've got some great entrepreneurs coming up and they've got fantastic ideas and we really want to embrace that too because we're building them inch that's the next generation and all those listening. Go Follow Eric on twitter in a few like baseball make sure you're tuning in during reds games. He gets he little little little fired He's he's redhead. What's the fire. Everybody Yeah I do like you know. That's the issue sports betting right now. Right is a big issue. All you're getting sucked into that you know. I was burrowing getting sucked into a sports sports. Betting and gambling. If you put casinos in Kentucky you figure we're going to sell a lot more whiskey. Okay yeah so people are asking us. It just goes back to where we started this conversation of ten years ago. We couldn't get a meeting up there and now you know again. We're honored to be seen as a powerful lobby in Frankfurt. And if people want to get something passed they come and ask for our support and that's that it hasn't been that long ago. That was not the way it happened. So you know we. We have to be careful on things like that because there are you know boasts two sides to every issue but You know when our board meets and I've got to get real quick. Shot them because they are the visionaries and the the Guardians of this industry If we ever have a discussion where there's disagreement the first thing question that they ask themselves as well. What's the best thing for the industry? And if that doesn't solve the resolve the issue the second thing they ask is what is best for the Commonwealth at that point. You've got your solution and so I I've got to give a tip of the hat because they really make my job a lot easier fantastic. That's great to know. Yeah where he's working together they say teamwork makes the dream work. steel into so just One last chance if anybody wants to be able to find out more about Katie A. Where they do it. I don't know if you WANNA give your email address out either to urban dot com. We're on.
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"Brand barrel under the forever aging brand. I love it. I guess we're going to check it out later. This is something I didn't see that coming. I I could see like You know I could see like someone doing Muhammad Ali style funeral where they go and stop every visit on the Kentucky. Bourbon trae album. I'd never imagined anything like like actually being Berlin. That's new. Yeah new we plenty of crazy. We often joke. That were you know. You can't make this stuff up. We need to be a reality TV series around here Because we do we get a lot of crazy. Phone calls And right now you know. China's emerging market Every day I bet you get five ten emails or phone calls from people wanting to broker spirits to China They're just so much opportunity around the world China India Russia. Places like that That that's that's when the most challenging things because a lot of people think that we you know we're the ones that broker that we just typically turn that over to the to the members about the say even with that. You know you talked about it. Earlier like Bourbon is eight. It's American spirit right. However it seems like Kentucky is. It's the it's the centerfold right. It's it's the one that's on top here stealing the the centerfold. I don't know if you WANNA steal press release. Sometimes my comments don't be so pc but we'll figure it out later So the other way we kind of look at this is that you know you wanna work with you. Know the whole entire United States. Of course you get the disappearance council I mean. Are there other other states that look at you for guidance or do you feel like there's more weight on your shoulders and that other states should be picking up some of the slack to know we definitely get a lot of phone calls from other states? They're just building their guilds And you know are asking US questions. the guys in Florida. You know 'cause every now and then especially on the legislative front. Hey how did you guys get this passed in Kentucky and and and we're more than hell now we do have some states and Fred knows probably which ones I'm referring to like to talk a little smack Ratto Texas Tennessee. And that's right. I forgot about that. The Tennessee senator who Said something like the Kentucky Bourbon trail sucked and yeah. They don't have any history which keep talking. But because I guarantee you I've got that on a slide that have when I give them a presentation to the legislature. Every time somebody says something about how Kentucky needs to take a step back and let us take the lead that's on the slide to the legislature or that clip go straight to their mailboxes. Show them we've gotTA keep doing more to as Fred said. Peel back all these ancient alcohol regulations and laws to remain competitive. Because if we don't they will and the last thing we could do in Kentucky is let we make ninety five percent of the world's Bourbon but we cannot let that historic distilling monopolies slip away But now we are. I say what the lines of communication between the trade associations right now has never been better We work closely with margin. Leeman at the American Crafts Spirits Association bill on eighty. I meant golly where can distilled spirits association? Chris longer new president and CEO of of Discus Karen Betts from Scotch. Whisky association has been terrific in Work with us in the trade thing so We get calls like that from all the time. The funny things are when they call when you see them in a newspaper or news article and they're issuing the Pepsi Challenge to Kentucky of our water is just as good and we sit on limestone shelf and they need to do this and then they call you ten minutes later and say hey. How did you start this bourbon so that you can you give us some tips and advice dude? Come on you know. You can't talk smack over here for us and then call us and ask us hell but you can. You can just charge them. I'll say that you know they've they've always been very clear about it. They're not like they could flex their muscle and and you know space amount. They don't do that. They actually really do help. I know I know several associations that have leaned on you. They have they have and again. We're willing to help. I mean we found in eighteen. Eighty we know we. We took a fierce off with that noble experiment that just celebrated its one hundredth anniversary in January. That we don't want to talk about we. We like repeal day right fred days. Great Yeah but no we. We want to work with these guilds because we're facing similar challenges and opportunities and again some states have passed laws that we've looked at and went. Wow that's probably a pretty good idea and you know especially when it comes to things like shipping. That's the hot button issue right now. Yeah You know we've gotta work with other states become reciprocating. Kentucky because we we have more to lose than anybody here. I mean The you know. The wine industry's got fifty year head. Start and they're in forty six states. We're you know we can ship the twelve. What is the this is not something. I never even talk to you about before. I don't think but what's the case position on like the secondary market. And some of that kind of stuff. Well we really don't have a position such as we tried to address that with the venture spirits law right twenty seventeen because You know one of my favorite things about going to Washington is sitting down with bill. Thomas you know and Jack Rose which is urban fantasy. Land up there right I got to do that one time with Jimmy Russell and boy. That was a night to remember. Jimmy shut the place down. We were already go home and Jimmy was still rock and roll on and and you know but we're like bill. Where are you getting early scraped bottles? And he's like well I'm coming to Kentucky and raiding your addicts and you know you're dusty and stuff like that and we're like well Dan. We want the world's best liquor libraries spirits libraries to be in Kentucky so we started working legislature on that and and And boy we got it and again. That was one of those things that it didn't really help the distilleries right Anything but no doesn't help us sell another bottle but it continues to Cement Kentucky's rightful place as the one true enough income for Bourbon. And it's a great for consumers and it's great for the tourism industry and so we got that bill passed and I I I love now that you've seen you know a package stores. That are specializing this and silver dollars. Getting Ready to build. I think another big thing downtown on whiskey row so for us. That was our way of kind of working within the confines of the law in changing the law to mirror what Washington DC was already doing to allow these sales and put those bottles back in circulation so consumers can enjoy them and every month. I sent an open records request over to the ABC and get the bench spirits sales documents and records and send those term members so they can see what what's being sold and transacted and everything how many how many have many legal transactions has been. You usually see anywhere between five to a dozen Non just transactions but reports every month and some of them might be like last month. I saw somebody but six nineteen seventy-two. Jim Beam Football Hall of fame decanters. I don't know why but But they bought. I'm you know I'm sure guiding him on on their shelves and then you'll see something place like justice how suburban that will send in six excel spreadsheets of of all their pick. You know So it it's still early enough again. That was just a couple of years ago that we're still seeing that That kind of take off we. Even you know some people who Don't always agree with the case positions have even said that that was a great thing for Kentucky to do and I'm surprised the more states haven't done it because it it really has. I think it's it's you know I. It has made me not stabilize the secondary market here but it gives a consumer illegal outlet for you to go and and sell and buy those spirits now and you brought up shipping. Why is it so many people oppose the shipping of alcohol? Well it's several reasons number one. I think that there are people who are concerned about the responsibility. Issue Obviously and You know we have addressed that they Katie. I mean we're only trade associations on around the world actually a fulltime director of social responsibility and And we partnered with Intel. Check it all of our Kentucky. Bourbon distilleries And and we took that seriously. We when we had. We're looking to figure out ways to Reno check. Id's things at at our at our members We had a bunch of groups. Come to us and we got a basket of fake. Id's from the ABC and ran them through every one of those programs in only one program until check every one of them and they get all their information from the V.'s so we use them and I think the last count was in the last year our distilleries using tell cut over a thousand fake. Id's you know so You know going to the shipping program there at the Gift Shop. You're going to have that that Responsibly check right off the bat and then we've got great partners with UPS beginning in. Good Kentucky Homegrown Company that You know work with them on the responsibility to make sure that they're checking. Id's and things at the door. Me I would think if you're using a fake. Id Get some Mahoney's to go to distillery right and she got it right. I think one of the biggest concerns that that we hear is that is this the the slippery slope that ends the three tier system And that's where we probably get pushback or see pushed back from most everybody but we again one has been doing this for fifty years now And the threat. Your system hasn't collapsed in every sale. Every gift shop sale even in Kentucky is a three Tier Sale. Now it's it's a it's a paper transaction because the bottle doesn't leave the distillery and then go out and get shipped back symbolic near thing but it is still considered a three to sail so As long as we educate people that it's it's responsible it's a three to your sale. So that is upheld and taxes are paid and things like that once you get their arms around it. They start to feel more comfortable About this but you're still going to have a you know detractors on this but quite frankly the consumers are demanding this and as we've seen in every other thing it could. I'm definitely one of the big line. That consumers are GONNA win right. I mean that's why you know you look at you know sears. Jc Penney Toys R. US. All these brick and mortar stores are closing because the Amazons of the world and other things you gaining thing delivered now you know within an hour even I'm big kroger. Click list you know A fan you can do things like that. So that's the way the market is heading and our challenge has been getting in front of it to making sure it's done right it's done responsibly. It's done with parity so if it's if it's going to be good for wine it's going to be good for spirits. It's going to give me good for beer and making sure that the system is upheld. Yeah and I think it's going to be good for producers and everybody else to make sure that is at the end of the day you know. More money goes back in their pocket. They can invest in to their business. Absolutely but the distributors still play a crucial role to be able to get it into the hands of the stores that are around the country. That people aren't going to go buy online. They're still target still does amazing job of just brick and mortar. Getting people in the store when you think you only need to go there for paper towels and you leave with one hundred dollars later but much crap in your car right the the. It's still there at the. I mean we could not survive without our hotel partners. I mean if they tell us a day. Oh Yeah you could direct ship from the distillery without going through Theresa. We'd go you're crazy because we we don't have I mean we're in the business of making whisky right there in the business of getting into the market. So they've got to be a vital part of this This whole discussion and they are So in Kentucky There's drafts bills that are going through right now and I think we will see.
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"So talk about like the steps that you have taken with the promotional side from the Kentucky Bourbon Trail to the Kentucky Bourbon affair and all the other stuff. You're doing So again it was me and one person doing this. We ended up having to really get a lot of help from our members and in some really creative design firms but one of the things that we did is we created a fabulous teacher clan in two thousand on August. Six and as the date really look forward again grain memory. Really look forward to say okay. What do we want to be when we grow up? Everybody said we want Katie to be on par with the Scotch Whisky Association. Okay how do we accomplish those steps? and we started to understand that the thing that gets us into some of these meetings Was Not just that we're the bourbon industry. But it was the Kentucky Bourbon trail. The Berman opened a lot of doors for us in in Frankfurt so in two thousand ten We had the world equestrian games and We had started promoting the Kentucky Bourbon Trail Updating brochures you websites and things like that really focusing on the Passport Program. And how many visitors do you have at that time? The first year we did the passport in two thousand and seven we had one hundred eighty nine people complete the Kentucky Bourbon trail and send them a pen or something and how and attendance. I think we probably had A. I'm trying to remember back in two thousand eight. We had maybe two hundred thousand people tune-up game we had to record this on visits because we know people are visiting multiple distilleries but just visits distilleries was about two hundred thousand in two thousand eight and we only had seven distilleries at the time And so we started. You know really promoting in. It's interesting because it was mainly just getting the word out there. People didn't know that the take control existed. We've been around since nineteen ninety nine but people had no idea who we were. We talking about so me being a former reporter We relied on a lot of free media so he started doing a lot of pitches and phone calls newspapers and and we worked with southern living. They did came in and did a big sixteen page spread on You know the the heart of Bourbon country and and it was just you know you couldn't find that kind of advertising especially with the Trade Association. That's just trying to get started again. and boy picked up quickly. We went from one eighty nine people completing the ticket. Bourbon trail in two thousand seven. Two Thousand and eight to about two thousand ten. We are at Almost ten thousand And that was the year that the world equestrian games came into town. And I'll never forget bill. Samuels the world across the game program was thick. You know it was like like the sears roebuck catalog. You guys a kid. And I went to world or crested bill. Samuels beating me about the head with one of those programs I was like. Oh my God. What have I done now? And he said you gotTA Slow Down Son. Because Bill had been in California when when wine country exploded and he said it could get out of hand real quick. If you don't have some focus you guys need to focus and figure out what it's going to be so we took a year off the off of the our foot off the pedal and Howard Peggy no Stevens newly minted the Kentucky Bourbon Hall of Fame. And she did a full year benchmark. Study for US on what the Kentucky? Bourbon trail needs to be when it grows up and focus on experiential tourism. Which just now hot in the tourism community and so that helped our promotional efforts to promote that can take bourbon trail not just as a factory tour but as every sip of Kentucky. Bourbon is white fences in rolling Green Hills and thoroughbreds and the genteel southern culture and hospitality. And things like that so we started really focusing on that next thing you know boy. It's Katy by the door the the Kentucky Bourbon. She'll just exploded with visitors and that's spun off the Kentucky Bourbon Show craft to her Because wound the crap members started joining the Katie A. We all thought the first thing they WANNA do join the can take it bourbon trail. Will they would screaming. No no you know. Woodford gets a thousand people the weekend and we got a thousand people a month. We couldn't make our whiskey will let you know we want to join a trail. So seven crap members came to us in two thousand twelve said we want to create a spin off and grow organically in which is what they've done so we know each year. We continue to kind of ramp. Dial up the advertising promotion for that just so they have time for their infrastructure and things to catch up and that was our thing to bill. Sambo said you gotta be careful in how you market this so you can make sure inlet the infrastructure and the investment catch up. Which is what they've done. Because you don't have enough bathrooms or parking or things like that you know so we really have to Adam Johnson. Does that your job resin? Dow's up in Dallas at down. And then you mentioned that Kentucky Bourbon Affair. We always talked about wanting to Bourbon conference and were sitting around going okay. Bourbon Conference. The end of that sounds good Is it best practices anything else in Rob Samuels? Rally spoke up and said you know what's the one thing we go to all these conferences all over the country. But what's the one thing that Kentucky's got that nobody else does? That's the power of the distilleries. The allure here of Kentucky. We need to create something with the visitor in mind That they can do here that they can't do anywhere else in the country and so we put the challenge out to the the the companies and said all right you know what what do you want to do. And they came up with some really cool things to do and it wasn't that hard. I mean Fred you and our standing still know. How Brown former did this? How they got risk management? Look the other way because that first year the Bourbon affair remember. All they did was open the door to the roof. Yeah Poured Chris. Morris took a bottle of president's choice from the nineteen fifties out of his dog. We all sit there and drink then went on the roof and took pictures underneath the old forest and it was an incredible experience. Yeah just things like that you know. You don't have to go all out. You know to have just as an amazing memory about the without okay. We'll do this one year. 'cause it was the fiftieth anniversary of the congressional resolution that declared Bourbon to be America's only indigenous spirit. And so we were just really going after a party so that was the one year we did it and we didn't think we were going to do it again. But by the end of that year that week we have people going. How can I buy tickets for next year? And we're like We might have something here So it just keeps getting bigger and better so You know I've got to say that. That has his help grow Kentucky Bourbon and just kind on the mystique in the aura and anhil change bourbon from you. Know we're not the hillbillies who here in Kentucky. It's the Bergman is a very elegant sophisticated complex drink and events like that and and the how the Kentucky Bourbon Trail distilleries have really just up their game To me have have done an incredible job in raising the profile of the industry. And now you guys have done such a good job You have everybody calling you to try and partner with them. Yes we do which which is a great problem to have but it's also a challenge Because every week it seems like there's a different festival or event and they all want us to help and and it's it's getting to be strain on resources from the industry just because there's only one fred no right. There's only one Chris Morris They can only be in so many places it in so many times. Because they're out there on the road mostly in opening new markets and building brands and so That's an issue that our board's been discussing recently of you know how do we you know? Do we just send all these events members and let them pick and choose Or do we throw. Eggs went basket. One thing that we're very proud of is We read we announced last year. That we're moving Kentucky Bourbon Fair to September to partner with Bourbon Beyon- hosted by somebody at the table And as the lady in And I really think that is going to become like this. Incredible southbound southwest partnership For a two three weeks that will just drive people to Kentucky again. You can't get that anywhere else. So the marriage of these one of a kind rare behind the scenes bourbon experiences during the week followed up by fantastic music and food and and the festival atmosphere that the Bourbon and beyond at. I think this is going to be a plan. Yeah sounds like a home. Run to me. Yeah what what are some of them? and you don't have to name any names. But what are some of the more weird? What are the weirdest the requests that you've gotten from people like I? I'm curious because you guys get so many just random emails from people. I'll tell you one and it's actually been in the news here recently. A gentleman it. So we're we're here in Frankfurt. We just bought a new historic historic. Houses are headquarters. So we're a little more visible now. We were in An old civil war barracks in in Common Abasement and we were able to kind of fly under the radar. Now we're very visible here on the corner of Captain Second in Frankfurt and one day before we have this security system installed a man just walks upstairs and watched in my office. And says I've got an idea for you and you're GonNa Laugh and then you're gonna say that's the most brilliant thing I've ever heard and I said okay. Hit Me with it. And he said I WANNA create burial urns for people made out of Bourbon barrels and after. I started laughing at shouted at him in here. This is the craziest. Both brilliant thing I've ever and he said I'm going to call it forever aging you think this is a good idea after we all started laughing at you now rather. You probably got something on your hands here that. Yeah Yeah I do. Because I think about makers ambassadors right. You know if you could get buried in the mix cream cremated and put your ashes at a maker's mark barrel covered in red wax. The sign right. Well I just I you know the story where he is now partnered with a an urn making company in Florida and he's getting national publicity and he stops my here once a week just to check in and tell us how it's going and everything else and that just just cracks me up just shows you again when I started this now. Thirteen years ago at one of the biggest surprises to me is been the growth of the spin off things from bourbon industry. I mean I remember the first phone call from Sean Higgins and mint juleps hers. Hey we're moving back from California thinking about doing this okay. Bourbon Magazines Bourbon. Cooking classes now. There's Bourbon hotels and You know I don't think we any of us ever saw coming and coming this fast. And so now you have the opportunity to get buried and Get cremated and buried in your favorite.
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"As through all. We've met with pretty much. Anybody who would listen to us A and I've got to give a hint to our partners at the Scotch Whisky Association. That's still spirits. Council United States the American Krispies Association. The American deals just disassociation. I mean this affects all of us. So one of the things that we did Infrared was actually there a couple of years ago we brought the world whisky community to Lowell and had a w. nine some of the Nanna so we called the w nine and talked about this. You know what are we all going to do about this? Because it affects everybody and we met for two days and eventually Put out a resolution calling upon the world's leaders to get together and resolve this quickly before they long-term consequences re send them became real And even planted notary Right in front of the racer There and in a lot of press and we got a lot of phone calls about it in and we all kind of went back to our corners and did what we we've continues is just talked to every congress person You name it Congressman Andy. Barring Kentucky was having a fundraiser with Vice President Pence Flying in he managed to get our our major companies in a meeting with vice president. Pence who from Indiana knows exactly what Bourbon means to Kentucky And he took that message back to the president trump The governor here in Kentucky had vice president pence last year during the Derby to the same thing for us to help us We've got you know we're on speed dial with Senator McConnell's office checking in consistently With them on what more they can do We've had meetings recently with them Commerce a Cabinet Finance Cabinet Trade You Know Senator Grassley Office people just really explaining them how devastating these consequences could be if this goes on much longer and the answer to them is all you know we understand But these decisions are being made at such high levels. That's where the frustration comes in and Eating though we we know that the US does have trade issues with countries and we get that And we know that the stealing aluminum thing relationship because here in Kentucky we have great stealing aluminum plants because of our historic low energy rates So you know we're not pointing fingers at Anybody. We're just you know going up and just trying to tell our story on you know what this could mean to the industry You know because it's it's like against like just putting the brakes on a freight train which is trying to sell barber at the end of the day or at least remind I wanNA remind people to who are listening. And we're we're never really going to get a lot of backlash on this people are GonNa think. Oh this is political. You know you're you're you're bashing trump and what he's trying to do. I want to remind people that this is not political. This is this is an industry who speaks both sides. Absolutely and Thomas bipartisan. Talk Talk to us about about that. About how you how you have to kind of. Keep your personal politics out of it and how you have to work with both sides. What's that like? Well let me start out from a standpoint here You see alcohol bills in Kentucky are incredibly hard to pass No matter what the subject is I mean? We've even had people up here that will vote against our social responsibility efforts Just because the word alcoholics and the title of the bill so we have to have Democrats and Republicans supporting alcohol measures or they just won't pass. So yes we are constantly. We say we support our friends. We have friends on both sides of the aisle in the great thing about our Kentucky General Assembly as they understand that Because they know that some of their members because of their constituencies than coming from dry counties just cannot support alcohol yet but with ally Cao. He said yet. Yes Yeah Well Wedge. The you know the great thing about one of the smartest things. Katie did You know years back. In two thousand ten was invite the Craft Stiller's coming into Kentucky into the Association. We changed our by laws. Because not only is it good for them? And our legacy distilleries have been tremendous mentors to them but it also spread our political footprint across the state now in thirty two counties and so we've had legislators now who never voted wet who vote wet because they understand the the economic impact in the tourism impact especially of of that craft is still are in their district. So that's really helped but we know you look at you know we have a political action committee. We raised money for that You look our donations. They're almost evenly split between Democrats and Republicans because we have to have support on both sides of the aisle So we're very fortunate in Kentucky. Yes we have centered McConnell Who can be a lightning rod? Obviously if you're you know in politics But we're lucky that we have is leadership up there because he has the president's ear and he always you know carrying our agenda that's why we have given him awards in the past. We're very fortunate. Have John Yarmuth out of Louisville now charing ways and means and so met with him recently and And he gets it because conquering with his huge Bourbon. Fan and especially in Lowell Bourbon City right now in all the tremendous growth they are. He sees the tourism impact and the economic impact on a daily basis. Having him in the house carrying that message for us is equally as important and You know he and Congressman Brett. Guthrie started the Bourbon Caucus in DC. Which which is growing and as more and more States you know produce America's only native spirit so we have to be bipartisan and it's funny because as presently katy kind of like a chameleon on my Republican friends think I'm a Democrat. I'm a democratic friends. Think I'm a Republican and I said what must be doing something right. I don't know what I saw. You also have to be careful with your membership when you go to the bar you pick I do and it's it's funny. Obviously you know when people ask me what Your Bourbon Kentucky Bourbon is is always Mansard But in it what I usually try to do One of two things. I'll usually try to drink from the county. I'm in right then Also tend to favor our chairman or chairwoman right now at the time if you know this year is the Heaven Hill Year to chair the K. TA and Our Great Friend Jessica Pentagram for Heaven Hill General Counsel is is the new chairwoman. So you'll probably tend to see me drink more hill products this year But then there are some bars. I go to and Eric what he wanted to surprise me. You know just just makes me a good old fashioned and and I'll go from there. Yeah they his memberships got spies autumn. They have to Right so I guess one of the things I wanNA talk about it. Part of the lobbying effort here is there has to be. It's got to be frustrating. Because we're this is a syntax. Basically at the end of the day right like it's alcohol and I would imagine that government just look at it like it's an easy target or it's an easy target attacks when you all like your rumblings of anything like is it like all right here. We go like put the bat signal in the everybody get together. We're GONNA fly there. We're going to squash this before. It ever blows up well first of all when you look at the government of a fair strategies for your strategy number. One is always hold the line on taxes. Everything else is one a one B And Fred Highlighted are two thousand nine Bourbon Tea Party in which we poured Burg on the Capitol steps. And if you go to my office on top of the Cabinet and I have the empty bottles in there That serve as a daily reminded me of. Never forget that you know yes right now. They're your friend but in their star for revenue the first place they usually look is cigarettes or alcohol or one of the what they would think of as sin industries. But I think we've done a good job You know challenge changing the conversation the culture in Frankfurt especially from Santa Signature and that two thousand nine Bill Was probably the best wakeup call for the industry and the association that in one of the best things that ever happened to us. I mean I can tell you the dates. It was announced it would. It's ingrained memories announced on February six. They passed it on Friday February thirteenth took effect on April Fools Day. I mean you couldn't have written a better script for how all this went down. But you had the bourbon industry and Bourbon the alcohol industry in general because you had the beer truck circling the capitol. You know we Galvin as they you. We fought the governor the Senate president and the Speaker of the House on an issue and came within one vote of killing that and one week and it brought us together. More more quicker than anything could have so. He's actually a blessing in disguise for us because we held an emergency meeting after that February twenty six. See the these are how important these dates were to me in the history And one of our board members looked at the rest of the board and said are we really a signature industry or is that a self portrait and you could see her by just kind of limiting. They physically took a step back from the table and went. You're right are we really a sinew? We'd like to think we're a signature missing. But are we and so they said what do we need to do? And so he's all right. We need to have an economic impact study. That shows what our impact is to the comma. Will we need to start talking about Bourbon? Not just as a drink but as part of the culture and the economy and tourism and things like that and so once. We started doing that and we did. We came up with the first ever. Economic Impact Study and it is such a tool for the industry in. Oh to showcase what we mean to Kentucky that we do it every two years now and. It's a no-brainer. We just don't do it every two years to update and so that gives also the ability to forecast. Right what jobs are going to do what we think is going to be coming down the line but once we started talking about Bourbon as economic development and tourism in an investment in jobs. It really changed the focus here in Frankfurt that. We weren't a sin industry more as as Fred said earlier because I remember sitting in a meeting in two thousand and ten with Bill Samuels and and Senate president or Senator Robert Stivers now senate president and him looking at saying. You're not a signature industry your image industry. But you are not a signature. Amnesty Cole is a single transistor. Because he's from the coalfields of Eastern Kentucky and now to hear him stand up and say you may be the only signature industry left and the state because Cole is is is dying. Tobacco is dead. horse racing definitely has its challenges. that's been you know. A one eighty turn around from where we were ten years ago. But it's a lot. It's been a lot of hard work. educating legislators and You know in all the other tools at a trade association uses Like political action committees and things like that and to make sure that they know that we appreciate their support and changing these laws. So Kenny. This is. We've talked a lot about the lobbying side. What happened around. Two thousand nine was that they kind of activated something within a within their organization that they really had never done before and that's a promotional component. Let's talk about that for minute. What what steps starting in two thousand nine did you start on in? You mentioned the study. Which by the way average salary of a Bourbon worker. Nine hundred ninety five thousand dollars. Ninety five thousand dollars. That's a great industry and so talk about like the steps that you have taken with the promotional side from the Kentucky Bourbon Trail to the Kentucky Bourbon affair and all the other stuff you're.
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"Trail thing we've got going on and and I went into one of the the meetings and The interviews and the New York Times had just done a front-page page travel section feature on the Kentucky Bourbon Trail and actually held up at the At the interview and said what did. Y'All do to get this. And they literally said well. I don't know reporter showed up one day and like you're getting front page travel sections in the New York Times without drying what you've got here. This is amazing so yet I forty days was really transitioning predecessor. A great man. Senator former state Senator Daniel Springfield of I don't think is enough credit back in the seventies and eighties when he was a state. Senator he really worked hard to keep the avalon barrel tax issue from just exploding and driving a lot of distillers and those aging warehouses at San. Out of Kentucky. And really you know. He was running the Katie out of his law office and Spring feel and most people don't know the Katie went part time in the nineteen eighties. Awhile because Bourbon you know had taken it on the line and most people who'd written it off his match appear said today great liquor store in the sky and there was not much you're right for the Katie too so He you know he. But Ed for solve the the Bourbon Revolution Coming and the Kentucky Bourbon trail picking up speed and said you need a fulltime staff again? And so that's that's where. I came in so yeah that I thirty I. Thirty or forty days was really quite frankly. Kind of relaunching. The association from scratch We had to find an office in Frankfurt. We moved our operations here from because Ed was running around getting of his law office in Springfield in Washington County Finding Office After three or four months I was allowed to hire an executive assistant And just got thrown into a legislative session. You know with no idea. We need to come up with priorities and Just really like you said start to get the Katie build an image bank among the legislators that we're here and we're lobbying in we're not asleep at the wheel anymore quite frankly. Can you remember that that first lobbying experience he did for the Katie? Oh yeah they started talking about tax raising taxes in two thousand and eight and myself and the the wholesalers association and the retailers all went in and started talking to To the legislators cause they just raised our taxes in two thousand five. The wholesale taxes went from nine percent to eleven percent so We went in and say look as you just you know. Raise OUR TAXES. A couple years ago. You're GONNA do it again. And we fought it back that year and two thousand eight but then it came crashing down upon us as I mentioned in two thousand nine But again. It was doing all this. I am a Bourbon Geek. First of all I'm a longtime Burma Geek I'm one of the people that stood in line and you know outside of liquor bar waiting for the different wax colored bottles and whenever Bill Samuels one. I'm one of the first before I took this job. I was one of the first Bourbon Ambassadors At maker's Mark I worked my way through college at a liquor store right before. Keeneland all right. What bottles were you stashing away back any you know. We had maker's goal. That was really about the height of Bourbon back then but I remember vividly when we got the first bottles of Blanton's and the liquor store and they were thirty dollars and we were like who the hell and they're right. Mine's GONNA pay thirty five dollars for a bottle of Bourbon get makers for ten over here right you know and because we are the last liquor store before keeneland in the airport Toyota had just opened up and all the Japanese executives would stop at our liquor store and stock up on Bourbon than before they got on the plane to take back home and they fell in love with Blanton's and they loved the bottle when the Horse on top of the bottle and so every Friday night when they were making their rounds back to the airport to go home There was a line of cameras waiting at the drive thru. And I knew I had to have cases in cases of Blanton's there and I would just go out and vote on the back of the car and they hand over the cash and go so as more and more of the small batch really the bean products small batch selections the you know the the knobs and like that is those started rolling out I had to really become more knowledgeable about what was coming out for our customers at the time. And so my friends all kind of you. Kidding me about the being the Birmingham can and teach him about that. So that's awesome. It really is run through your veins you know and again and got a lot of great tips track tips. You know. From the trackers coming in I think between that and you know that kind of kept me in school paid for for a couple of not only people can say that they made their way through college is like having a good few bets here and there right especially my bets what. What's your percentage on betting? I I don't do it anymore. You know when you've got young children read so when your children start growing up and I've got you know I'm putting my first into college later this year. And then my my son who is getting ready turned sixteen. I gotta get a car for him. Everything thing else I. My sister works at Keelan And so every now and then I'll get her to place a bet for me but Boy Betting has gone down Exponentially is hard head start and he said it any more attention. He's like winning by. That might not be. The best bet is keep your money in your pocket. If you do have a good horse racing tip what would it be? Oh Wow You know I'd I'd probably have to have a form with me. You know to answer that question Again I really used to Steady that form and there was a group of US former reporters who are now lobbyists and and everything up here who Woodhead Keelan all the time So I'm big on Kentucky Boarding Bread you know I did get a lot of great tips from from my sister. Who Sees Them? Come through as yearling keeneland sales and stuff like that But mainly I'll look it bloodlines. You know if I'm going down the form the first thing I do start. Circling Bart bloodline so that. No that that'll be a good. And then you gotta look at you know how long it is and if there are closer. I mean there's just I don't know that's that's a good what's Nice the Kentucky Way. Right by my dad's tip he said. I always circle the ones that were the owner in. The trainer are the same person because he was lying. They put a little bit more effort into that. Of course right. That's a good. That's that's his little tip but I like to go ahead and try to run with it again. You're still game length in the day and so let's go ahead and I kind of want to shift gears a little bit and kind of talk about the the growth of Bourbon in kind of really. We're you seen it and kind of you know you've been a pretty instrumental part of this and so a few months ago there was a pressure. Really they came out about now that they're more barrels of spirits aging Kentucky than there are people twice as many twice as many barrel twice as many. You're right twice as many so kind of talk about lake. Where where do you kind of see the evolution of this going and like do we expect three x four x now coming here in the next two three years short answer yes? I'm typically pretty optimistic about that. I guess the biggest challenge that we faced are the the tariffs retaliatory terrorists. They're put on us because everybody asks y'all what's fueling the Bourbon revolutionary thing and we all know You know the rats the cocktail culture. The Madman Effect I think Berberism has been has played a big part of that. Maybe a bigger part that most people don't understand The fact that we're just putting out some of the best juice that the Commonwealth his ever delivered again is good. But really the opening of the global markets to me has been one of the the driving factor in the growth of Kentucky Bourbon. Because I don't think it's any coincidence that back in the mid nineteen ninety s when we had Nafta and the treaties. That's when you start to see the spike in production And the growing global thirst about because refined we were finally on a level playing field with our friends in the Scotch Industry who've had a six hundred year head. Start on us so yes we have seen bourbon growth exponentially in the past five years Were currently in the middle of a two point. Three BILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS BURRI. And most of that is Increase Production for that That global market we've you know especially to the EU You know in the past three to four years. You're looking at twenty to thirty percent. Even I think two years ago with forty three percents growth every single year to the market and So that's when we got the call. Eighteen months ago that the tariffs were were starting to be used his ponds in a trade war that none of assault coming Ma- first reaction was damn. We made it. We're being used as pawns in a trade war than those it was. Oh my God now. We're really you know what what are we. GonNa do now. I really do believe that. YOU'RE GONNA continue growth in a lot of people. Ask US AFTER THAT. Presley's came out. You know 'cause would not only do we have more than nine million barrels aging right now in Kentucky We filled two million barrels for the first time in the modern era of of of Kentucky Bourbon and fifty. Two years you know will without. The tariffs are hurting. Why are you feeling that many barrels and begin the blessing and the Cursor Kentucky Bourbon is are? You can't make it overnight so administrations change. You know you're looking six eight years out. Hopefully this issue would be settled But you know if the market which is almost half of all of Kentucky's whiskey exports if that continues to escalate As it has with the new tariffs on Scotch. Whisky of then. You know to me. That's a game changer. you know it's it's something that could really have long term effects if we don't get this resolved pretty soon. You're pretty nods. Prepare San on this particular subject and there is people that talk about this all the time when it talks about tariffs and talk about exports. And they have this very narrow view and they're like that's fine more bourbon here in America kind of tell people. Maybe I don't believe that's right but Kinda give kind of explanation and rationale on that. Yeah well it's all tariffs are taxes first of all and And we like to say there are no winners in a trade war There's no really good way out of this. Because what most people don't understand is when Bourbon took a nosedive Most of the bigger distilleries diversify their portfolio. So they own a scotch whisky distillery or an Irish whiskey distillery Canadian whisky distillery Tequila distillery and so that's when you saw the tariffs you know inactive back in it wasn't just e you. It was Canada and Mexico and other places. Well a company like Brown Forman or Jim. Bean that owns multiple distilleries across the world. They're not only taking a hit on the town. Tory tariff on Kentucky Bourbon They're also taking a hit. Now on Scotch Whisky and Canadian whisky and Irish whiskey and things like that. So they're getting both of yeah you know. And so they're taking five punches to the gut right away So that's not good from an industry standpoint Because you're you know that that destroyed purely business standpoint. It's it's hurting business. Then we have as an industry have done so much over the last generation to convert Scotch drinkers Mainly from a global community over to Bourbon drinkers and that's a lot of investment. That most people don't understand and that market helps us you know grow here in Kentucky and and produce more alcohol. So if if you're a scotch do you know if you're a newly converted Scotch Drinker To Bourbon and you go into your favorite watering hole now and you see that. Bourbon is twenty five percent higher price. Do you go back to what you were drinking. And now we've lost you Potentially for a generation That that's not good. Then you've got situation where If you're a company you try to absorb that twenty five percent or as much as possible as you can Which means less jobs and investment here in Kentucky which again hurts the Commonwealth Or go on to your point You Know Hey I've just invested fifty million dollars doubled my production and ungodly still keep them running. Well Okay you do that. And suddenly in six years. There's a glut of spirits on the market. That's going to cause a price war. Which probably the first casualty it's GonNa be the craft spirits market. It's going to put people out of business and that's not good from a global shirt spirits industry as well so we don't like door winnable one door number two or door number three on all those that's why we've been lobbying awful hard To get this resolved as quick as possible so talk me a little bit through about what your processes when you're lobbying against efforts like banged the dramas loudly.
"kda" Discussed on Bourbon Pursuit
"In. This is above the char. This week's idea comes from kyle man or at Bourbon numbers on twitter. He writes nothing better than expanding. My whiskey perspective. Are THERE ANY UP AND COMING WRITERS. Bourbon that deserve the above the char spotlight or are there any underrated sites? We should add to our favorites. Thanks listen there's nothing. I like more than promoting good writing and a perspective. That is different than mine. Listen I am a big big fan of the cocktail walk now? Is You know I am a big from head so I would? I would get you to start with the cocktail walk. That's Matt Trick. He actually writes for me at Bourbon. Plus he writes the vintage column and that is a writer. You need to check out. He wrote the book the Tiki minimalist. So that is a great book. He's a great guy. And if you're wanting to learn more about another spirit Rum is the one I would recommend going to. Course I wrote a book called rump. Curious and Matt edited that for me. So I'm a big fan of Matt and everything that he does for the rump community. After that I would say if you're not already following him Whiskey jug is a young up and coming writer. He's been at the game for a little bit of Josh. Peters is a he reminds me a lot of myself of about ten years ago when I was out there kind of investigating and trying to break news in the whiskey circuit. He's he's a very good he's a he's a very good. No bullshit kind of writer. So I'm a big fan of what Joshua Peters is doing. I think he's got. He's got a bright future ahead of him and I also wanted to ask you to go and check out the classics. The writers who are no longer with US Gary. Reagan wrote the book of Bourbon. Probably one of the one of my heroes in the in the Bourbon World He can he kind of came at Bourbon in a very fashion as I did but he was a bit before his time and he broke into like He. He broke away from Bourbon a little bit and made his own bidders and Kinda got a little bit more into the cocktail movement. And then you have the greatest whisky writer of all time in my opinion. Michael Jackson Not Michael Jackson the guy with the glove and the jacket and the weird stuff. I'm talking about Michael Jackson. The beer the beer critic and whisky writer his words just flew off the page. And we're just so beautiful. So check those riders out I'm a big fan of all of them and I think they can all add to your perspective but at the end of the day it's about whisky is about an experience for for you. While the writers the bloggers the PODCASTS. Were all about bringing the information. We're all about trying to explore this community with you at the end of the day. It's about you and what's in your glass what you like. And what conversation do you like to have around whiskey? So thank you for the question Kyle man or at Bourbon numbers on twitter. Now that came in on April fourth when I asked people to send me their ideas for above. Char I love getting a good idea so hit me up on twitter instagram facebook or go to Fred. Mimic DOT COM and. Send me your idea. But that's this week's above the char until next week. Welcome back up the soda. Burma pursuit the official podcast of Bourbon. Kenyan Fred on the road today down in Frankfurt the you. It's always funny. There's always a good joke. That says how do you pronounce? The Capital of Kentucky is at Louisville or Louisville. And they're like nope it's Frankfurt. Yea I'm hopefully our guest today is is part of a campaign to move it to Louisville. You know what I mean. They just got this new place that we're sitting in. That is true that is true. So this is where at the headquarters the Kentucky Distillers Association. And you know fifteen years ago. These guys could not get get a meeting with a lot of the legislators now one of the first calls a new governor makes is to the Katie A. Because Bourbon is political capital and I believe that the Kentucky Distillers Association is the most powerful lobby in Kentucky and that was confirmed to me by the Senate Majority Leader Damon. Thayer I asked him. I like how powerful as the Katya. And they're like not anyone more powerful right now. I mean. Is it basically coming from all the taxes from well? It's fun and back into the state. Let's take a look at what? Bourbon has done for the state. It's really one of the only good conversations that people can have them and they're talking about Kentucky. You got the Derby but the horse industry has been falling for for a while. I mean that's a signature industry and it's it's been hurting the gay guiding the gambling. You know they're trying to bring in but Ryan keeps getting denied so and the coal industry is turned to dust. Sadly I mean. It's not a if you look at Eastern Kentucky it's hurting and Bourbon is the one thing that's kind of carrying the state forward and one of the reasons why is because of the man we have sitting here and the what the. Katie has done for the last ten years In two thousand nine you know when there was a new sales taxes coming in they protested and they poured whiskey on the State Capitol steps in the way of their protests and They've been every single year. They have been peeling away. Ridiculous Laws County by county and in the state and and Town by town. And that's why we're able to like have a sip of Bourbon while you visit a distillery and mean people don't realize that it wasn't that long ago that we didn't have tours. These guys created the Kentucky Bourbon Trail. So that is why everybody. Who's listening to this? Should be thankful that we have someone like this who has their interests at heart Fighting for them in the Bourbon Industry and Frankfurt. There's a there's a lot to go over today with all that I mean taxes tariffs you name it. So we'll we'll we'll get a little bit of that but you know we'll I introduce our guests today on the show. We have. Eric Gregory. Eric is the President of the Kentucky Association. Better known as the Katie Azo Eric. Welcome to the show will thank you. You you guys are making me blush here. So thank you for the kind words and I've got to say We obviously couldn't do this without strong. Support from our membership so Let me lead up with that. We appreciate in value Oliver members and they say I guess before we before we kind of dive into the Katie in the membership and Really put the key as mission is like. Let's kind of talk about you real quick like we're where's your background. Where'd you come from? Were you part of you know moonshine and you said you know what I'm GonNa go ahead and make this legal and this liked where you moonshine or no. No no no. I grew up in the coalfields of Western Kentucky. My parents ran a grocery store My Dad was a huge Maker's Mark Van will in My mom like Oh fits in the nineteen seventies. I mean I can still see in my mind's eye my dad coming home everyday from work a little makers in In a glass with one Q. My mom loved Oh fits and some sprite or some Ginger Ale and then go on the back porch and sit and that was their time and they talk about their day and have a drink and so it was just always prevalent in in in our household So no really. I'm the luckiest SOB in the world. At I started my career. Many of them people know as a reporter With the Lexington Herald Leader newspaper spent Eight or nine years there. immigrated to Hawaii for a couple of years worked at the Hi Lou advertiser and my God. Why would you come back here that everybody asks me you know? How crazy are you? Have you ever lived in Hawaii? It's a great place to visit but it's really really expensive and It's pretty far away from family and You know once you get over there and you realize that everything that you love deer in the world to me was in Kentucky and not only my family. My Wife's family but I'm huge Cincinnati Reds Fan I love Keeneland. I love the horses. I Love Bourbon I love UK basketball and they had just won a championship without me in Kentucky and things and the tug of home released starts kind of You know getting pretty strong. So since those those e b a late night tip offs right. If you're sitting there ally will the six hour time difference? I'm sitting there having lunch. You know at the local Bar And and watching the Games. That was kind of kind of crazy But moved back to Kentucky worked for the paper again for a couple years Went into a political consulting after that One of my jobs in the newspaper was covering the state legislature and back then the limit every two years For sixty days a happy channel. You say that he wished legislature met every sixty years for two days instead of every two years for sixty days so I cover them and I kind of had the political bug a little bit so went into consulting and public relations running campaigns in Kentucky Indiana and Tennessee That led to one of my clients was the electric power cooperatives and doing lobbying and things for them and they ended up hiring me as their families manager so I spent almost eight years of working here in France their contract lobbyists and and September of two thousand seven. I got a call from one of my best friends. He said your dream job just opened up. And I said what's that he said the President of the Kentucky Distillers Association. He said they want somebody with Bedia background check. They want somebody with a public affairs Government AFFAIRS BACKGROUND CHECK. And they want somebody. Lobbying experienced a check and a love their product. So Check J. but in a resume three and a half months interview process. How and they They offer me the job on December seventh. And and it's funny because they asked me in my last interview How long do you think you'd stay at Katie and acid? Are you kidding me? This is the best job in the Commonwealth downside of UK basketball coach she know where president at Churchill downs. Or something like that as an. I'm here as long as you'll have me. You can drag my cold dead PIPPO body of that chair someday but but we haven't slowed down since since taking over. It has been an amazing run so far. I kinda WanNa Kinda WanNa give a little bit of a historical perspective here about the Katie Egg at this juncture. Go for it. It's not really an organization that was known for doing anything or getting anything done and no offense to onto your history. But they didn't do anything you know. Other than like some some efforts in the eighteen hundreds in the nineteen fifties they were mostly just kind of drinking club the distillers getting together and they just they just let things be dictated to him. And I'm curious because everything changed when Eric took office and you know Bill Samuels Junior. Who's the long-time maker's Mark Chairman has told me many many many times is that a lot of the the growth of. Bourbon is because of this man and his leadership for the Katie. So I'm curious you get the job. What are those first forty days like? What are you sensing? And and how? What are you looking? Well it's funny because the job description In those conversations they were saying things. Like you know. We'd like you to can you promote this bourbon..
"kda" Discussed on The Fundamentalists
"And it in a row it's basically a reflection on the void on the abyss on nothingness that's cool man yeah i saw the photo you posted that was like our smes were of a statue or some kind of a he added us broken obelisks spy a barn in yemen which is dedicated to martin luther king junior oh really has gone a cool as as sculpture and you can kinda get a few different meetings for myself i meant i was walking by m a there's so many beautiful churches and chapels himself in boston and it's interesting that is same thing in you've if you find typically an old uh building like that that's like historic it's more often than not going to be some sort of a um no faith or multifaith kind of a building i don't know what that is and what how that happened exactly but it's interesting but yeah and 'and rothco wasn't religious otto like he was not a religious individual in any standard way things the problem with that they had moved when we if he'd gotten into religion maybe he could have been maybe this could have been paintings of pure white or like was like i talked about last week the guy he's has all shops with jesus images yes you are of course referencing kinkaid talking thomas can kia day committee if he hanniken kda could have been the tom i think he had of the art world and instead what is whereas you know we're on apple sad sad thing so let's talk about nothing on what kind of a what kinds of nothing what do you mean yes so in one of the biggest themes and philosophy is the theme of nothingness the other is being what is stuff but then there's this we are question of nothingness what does nothing because nothing is something because now that wailua eggs are t types of nothing in a sense there's nothing that has nothing and then there's nothing that a something and the did nothing that is nothing is like the difference between not talking to somebody 'cause you're being quiet or not talking to someone because you're communicating something so there are two types of silence you know there's a silence of nothing and there's a silence that communicates this makes me very uncomfortable marty uncomfortably up because i know i know exactly what you're talking about an idol unlike.