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Quarter-final Predictions

Stoppage Time: Champions League

49:32 min | 1 year ago

Quarter-final Predictions

"Ah? What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I am your host max Baril and this podcast devoted to the Champions League. It's quarterfinal predictions day on my virtual left the best beard in Brooklyn read, Ryan how you doing? That's gone. And in the ultimate twist on my virtual, right? The professor Willie cats Baril. How are you? Hawaii you hall. That's right fans. You got the threesome here tonight or doing a group predictions episode? And I am all all worked up about it. Guys. I would say correct me if I'm wrong, but we have cross or quarterfinal draw. What looks to me like in every game kind of a favorite versus an underdog. But that doesn't mean that's how it will play out. What are your initial thoughts? Read ryan. A couple of each matchup itself is extremely tantalizing storylines bound a lot to digest. It's exciting to have four English teams to pour over each matchup is gonna be fascinated indeed Willie. What are your thoughts? Here agree with you on paper. Thank they're four favorites. Some of them clear favorites four under the I think. The there couple of surprises in this final eight. But I do think that we have what we would consider the best teams in Europe right now. Out end the settlement. So I think we're going to have some very very good soccer to watch. I am very excited about it. This if you haven't caught on, obviously, we're going to be doing our quarterfinal predictions today. We are going to do a little triangle going game by game making our predictions of who will progress to the semifinals, and we'll respond to each other in kind and see kind of how we all shake out. I don't expect it's going to be quite as simple as we have four favorites. And that's what's going to be the semi-finals. But we'll just have to see about that. So we're going to talk a man city then Liverpool Porto. I XE Juventus and then Manchester United Barscelona saving the best for the last sweet sweet men United ins. Rolls up. So let's start off with Tottenham. And man city read Ryan you get the honor of going I in this round. What is your prediction for this matchup? Think bed city is going to roll this. I think this is actually the most to be at least the most lopsided are easily predictable of the four matchups men men cities still going for the quadruple at this point. They I think pep is on a sort of single minded psychopathic drive to to win both the Champions League and the Premier League the other two trophies just be a. A nice consolation. But again, I think he wants wants all Tottenham they've managed to ride the wave over the past couple of months and make it through without Cain without deli through some some fortunate results. But I don't think they have what it takes to stand up to man city over a over two legs. I think they'll be just easily swept away by the machine that is Guardiola's side, the Manchester United Manchester City machine on those little Freudian. I wish that it was the Manchester United machine Willie. Do you? See this going the same way. What are your thoughts? Agree. A great with the reading. I do agree on the outcome. I do think that cities. Going to make it to the semi-finals. But to me as I look at the four games in front of us here for the quarterfinals. This is Wanda. I think is the most even. You know, I think it's a really really tough match-up for city. They are going to meet each other as you know, three times in three weeks. I mean, it's a little bit crazy here. They're going to meet twice in the Champions League. And then the week after the they meet in the the Premier League. You know? Asli a CD wins but up and it's going to play in their stadium than going to you don't have. I think a very very very will syphilis support. It is my sick favors English team. I see tight I'd see very tight the tough for city. And though, I think that going to go through I do think that going to suffer read we will be interested. It'll be interesting to see how the matches the batch plays out at Tottenham new stadium. I'm sure that environment will be absolutely a crazed. But I I don't know if it'll, you know, Tom's always had an issue with their supporters in their stadium. Not being as. Feverish as other other supporters. So we'll see if they can recapture or at least generates magic that. It's obviously been lacking at at Wembley while they've been there for the past year, year and a half or whatever it's been. Yeah. You almost wonder if the fans are going to be able to find their seats at all, you know, they're not they're familiar and what if they're lost who's going to support the team. So we got two votes for city here. It's hard to it's hard to vote against man city. They're so dominant, but darn it if I'm not going to do it. I think taught them we're going to progress here. I think it is going to be a tough match, and it's there's a certain amount of heart over logic here. But I I think when Tottenham and city played earlier this season. It was a tight tight affair so Willie. I agree with you in that regard. And I think Paci TI no is just he knows this is it this is everything for him. And I think the passion of the of that moments might just kind of give them the upper hand. I don't know. I just feel it in my belly that the Tottenham are going through. But I do think it will certainly be tight. So. Beth ho city is just scary. And I think that they do fall behind. They have the ability to put so many people from our benders that place so-so well union dick can really low that line up. I don't know city is a tough team to beat. But again, I see tight, and I think if anybody could be the it will be talking I it was one of my least favorite as you know, from previous podcast. My Lee is favourite macho for city wish they had gotten Porto or Manchester United. But we got we'll see. I know that you're saying thought max out of spite took. You know, I'll get my revenge and a couple of minutes. Oh, we'll see about that. Really? But I'm calling it now to Mendy with the red card against Harry Kane, and Harry Kane with the decisive penalty. Any final thoughts from either of you on Tottenham city just punch at Tito ITO. He's made it very clear in his in his presser 's that the Champions League is what it's all about for him this year. He has you seated the the league are even tempts to to finish anywhere in the earth finished in the top water to. So I think he knows like you said max the Champions League is his chance to really make his Mark on the on the top team. So I don't know. Maybe it's maybe is going to be upset like you. So boldly predict so bold. I you know, I think he's I don't think he's going to stay another season. I think he wants to go out with a sweet sweet memory. And I think I think we'll give it to him a Willie just has a thinking back to last season. It was a similar situation in which city had to play Liverpool three times in quick succession. And and city kind of came out the lesser end of the important games, which are the Champions League ones. I wonder if history will repeat itself and their opponents in those games. Of course, we're Liverpool which brings us to the other half of our Tuesday, April ninth affair, which I gotta be honest. I'm quite upset that we're still doing two games at the same time. It just makes it so much more difficult to watch but Liverpool Porto Willie where do you? See this one going. See for me. This is the easiest match of to predict I think is going to be lopsided. I think Liverpool may not win five to zero in pork leg. They did last year. Now, what are the alz, right? That the two teams the same teams meet the in the same round in this Champions League a year later. It's a coincidence of amazing coincidence here, but you know, the the the power of lever pulling think is overwhelming portal, you know, belongs in the Champions League. I think they're they really put a plight of the usually get the very lucky with the draw. But you know, all the teams that are left. I think Puerto is by far the weakest and they're facing one of the I think dubbed three teams right now in Europe uniting Magister CD Lieber pools, bursts alone have being those three. You're you're you have what I think is the weakest of the eighth playing one of the toughest in the eight. So my prediction here is labor pool by at least three of not more goals over the two games. Understood. I. You know, it pains me to say, but I agree with you. You know, Liverpool if especially if they play like they did in that second game against buyer Munich, where they really took it to the Germans in their own stadium was quite impressive. And when they're on. They are certainly one of the very best teams out there. And you know, while there's there is this narrative that Liverpool can be a little inconsistent. And I think I think people fans and pundits alike are projecting a little bit of insecurity into Liverpool. Where there really isn't. I think by and large they're playing very well. They're scoring a lot of goals. And while I think Porto is a is a good team and credit to them forgetting, overcoming that deficit and getting through to the quarter-finals. I think they are just outmatched plain and simple by Liverpool and least of all without Pepe there to to Marshall the defence. I think. For me. No, Sala and Monay are going to run rampant. And I agree with you. I think this one might be a little bit lopsided read. Yeah. There's been a groundswell lately. I think of people trying to just drum up some drama saying, maybe Porto's got what it takes, you know, people try maybe it's people trying to screw with the gambling betting. But. The there's been a lot of talk on Twitter. So it'll be like, I don't know don't count Porto out. We don't know how good they are. We've had this discussion before you know, they haven't really played any one. That's been a good side. You know, gauge for how effective their attack is they're they're last round. I robot was a classic that last that last match. But no one really watched it. And I don't think people have a real grasp of how good or how poor Porto are that. Being said of mystery itself is not a a effective tool for analysis. So so I'm gonna go with the the known and say Liverpool will will will take this one. I really wanted. I'm gonna go Porto when I'm a chain of blind spot. Just just to be just to be contrary. I will stick with Bordeaux. You've already revealed or your true heart lies that you are saying stream as the rest of us. No, I refuse. I will be. I will be contrary portal. I don't I'm waiting for for Manchester United to to buy Moraga next year. I think that it's he's going to be a great a great last minute purchase on deadline day when we will be can't find anyone else. So. I'm going to put my my let ships in his corner. I think you're crazy, man. I think you've revealed already your true spirit. And I think when we buy Moraga on deadline day, the critics out they're going to say, but don't you? Remember, how Virgil Van Dyke absolutely shut him down in the quarterfinals last year. Because we we talk about Liverpool's offense. But I think I think vandyck is up to the task of handling Porto offense as well. I don't know. We'll eat too did read convince you with his last-second swerve or. I agree with what the Reid said. We don't know how good or is. But I can tell you one thing they're not as good as lever pool. You know, they they are still solid behind. I think that the Porto's just delighted to be here. They've done what they were supposed to. I think they're ready to go home Liverpool on the other hand, you know, they're they're hungry after the the flop of last year's. Wrestling match between style and Rommel's. They wanna be backing the final click it. So there much longer. They're much tougher in. I think four through Skopje to be going home and trying to be been fica to the title important people to me, the motivation and the strength of labor pool are going to steam Porto, not even close read. We'll see we'll see we'll see who has the last laugh doing semi final predictions. I go back to the question that you ask early on. Right. I mean, all paper this game shouldn't even be played the favor or so over welcoming. But this is why they play the games. They'll be they'll be a surprise out of this four games Bill surprise. But I really don't think is going to be pool portal. Agreed. I moving onto Juventus I ax. I've already got my surprise potentially in Tottenham and city and this one I get torn about because I think I have what it takes to catch Juventus off guard. But I think Juventus are just too good that they surpassed the big hurdle which was coming from behind against. Let's go Madrid. They passed that test with flying colors Cristiano Renaldo is going to be well rested. Because I'm pretty sure he's just taking the next two weeks off. And that his hamstring is totally fine. He just wants to be nice and ready up for for I ax. You know, his shirt is going to be ready to be ripped off at a moment's notice. And I while I think I asked my push them a little bit. I don't think I XE who looked a little suspect in defense are going to be able to withstand the Juventus attack. The real question to me is that Juventus going to be able to withstand Xs attack, you know, which has caught clearly some teams off guard, but as much as I would like this to be another upset in my book. I am I'm giving the nods Juventus who I think really have the potential to go all the way. Read what you thought s-. So I'm sticking with my boys at I x. It's been the team. I've enjoyed watching the most this tournament. You know, the the suits. I actually convinced everyone the team to stay this last year and just give it a give it a go. And they really have you know, even though Dion does he's leaving delights probably leading with. They're all committed to this team. And like you said, I think the question here is whether or not you vent this can withstand I ex axis attack. I think it's going to be an open match or both of them will be pretty open matches. You saw what Madrid tried to do, and and sort of just shut it down and that just didn't work. So I think that's going to be very free flowing open match unless Rinaldo can sort of work some magic and pull some out of his hat like he did last time to take control boss the Vaas match. It might be it might be. I. Access to take. So I this one seems more even to be than you're giving credit again, I wanna go with acts. I. They have a team of destiny field to me yet. Well, you've been supportive of them since the beginning. So it's only appropriate you'd continue with it now Willie. And I'm gonna read, you know, this is to me the upset of the of the of the the set of four games. You know, I enjoy watching the Atlantic Juventus match up. I didn't think that you've enters play all that wonderfully. Well, when they beat the political three zero there were killed by that stupid, you know penalty that the from the act of Korea the was eighty six. I think Juventus I think oversleep one by a very wide margin. But it was more. I think let it grow really playing understand how I think you, and I talk about the game tree happen is one of the worst games that I've seen seamy only coach and prepare his team. I mean, it was a disaster. I think eventers has a false sense of security now. And I love Ajax. I just love first of all the Real Madrid. I love the way they beat them. I think that they are on the role. I think they are super stoked. They have absolutely nothing to lose. You know? And to me this kids are playing sewing credibly, well, so fast that they are going to this stab allies to send. I absolutely love to see the loses match. So does not show up. So, you know, I'm I'm I think is going to be a tough mountain to climb for jacks. I think they are going to do it. And I'm rooting for them. I think it will be good for soccer. I think it will be really exciting to see this young team. Go one step further. I agree. And it's it's hard to root against them. Yeah. Go ahead. You make a really good point. Like, you've intas have so much to lose, you know, after pain Renault paying all that money for although the even against Madrid they played with like a rigidity the sort of urgency that I don't think they can reproduce. If they are coming in assuming they're gonna win. I think I accept complete opposite attitude, this fearlessness this the youthfulness that that just injects with this wanted not carelessness, but again, fearlessness that I could I think supplies, you vent this. It's almost the opposite of what Madrid were doing against you that this. I think it's gonna like you said to stabilize to stabilize the Italians, I think it's absolutely incredible watch. I'm gonna go ahead and embrace the other word you just used which was carelessness a exit gave up early goals all throughout the group stage. And I think of all teams they're the one that's going to be like, hey, we just beat Real Madrid three time in a row champions. We just do if we do what we did. Again, we can get through. And I just think Real Madrid are a shadow of Juventus. And I think they're going to be there's going to be an attack an enthusiasm from ex and it could certainly work in their favor. It could also lead to mistakes that Juventus is going to capitalize on that rail. Madrid was just in no way prepared to really capitalize on. And I think coming back from any sort of deficit deficit against Venice is a different game altogether. That's that's really my thought not to say it can happen. There's a little bit of an air of Juventus as well similar to Ramage rid. They've got old defenders are they going to be able to up with I ax in their speed their youth their creativity. We will see, but I think Juventus has what it takes to to really kind of boss the game. If they want to I'm also very curious to see what Paolo debate does in this matchup because he came on as a late substitute against let's go Madrid in that second game. And is that the role he's going to continue to play. Or is he going to be the kind of the key to unlock the the opponents defense? I think he's such an electric player that he has that potential. But he hasn't quite seemed ready to step up on the biggest of nights, and we'll see. But I think I think Juventus have enough in the tank and enough experience to handle the situation. This just kind of how I feel about it. I mean, it just said that you know, with the Bala on. Player of his calibre on the bench. The just tells you that you've been discuss, right? I mean, it's again, if you on paper the team the event esteem is it's so impressive. Right. I mean, you would think that they would actually have a really easy time with this team of upstarts. But his social as they think they are going to provide. A little off a lot of speed into this game. I mean, Baluchi Leney and other rate, but there are old, and you know, the tremendous experience chill out to position themselves. Really really well. But if the you know, the that actually shows up is the one that the played in Madrid. What child Juventus I think they're going to have a real hard time. So to me, this is of all the possible upsets knowing that you've meant is is an overwhelming. I mean, if you look at the the betting lines Juventus as overwhelming favorites, I do think that this is both to bowl Li the the most likely in my view upset of the set. Yeah. And and there are some similarities here in pointed out between reality, and you've bent this their squad sort of are both in the in need of a refresh. Aging defensemen, some players that simply have not lived up to to what was expected of them. But the I think one of the main differences here is that the manager you vent. This knows how to use his players knows can trust and a position do the right thing counter. Hopefully counter I axis. Tactics. Allegra is just such a different manager could more competent accomplish manager than to lari was. So gotta have the there's faith there that if you're you bent to support our that he can sort of usher the team through to the next round. But you know, the defenses again is I don't think they're used to a team like age acting. I think they match very well against a team like a lid. But you know, we think we'd been playing in the city. I mean, it's maybe Napoli is a team that may give them a little bit of with. It's very non-competitive league right now. I mean there ahead with a zillion points. No seventeen or nineteen. I think the latest counts. I think that they're going to be surprised, you know, it's the speed of those young young players who think are going to surprise him. They don't match well do Benzes. I don't think matches well to to Jackson, and I just I mean, we'll be terrific the Ripley fun to see them when you know on on the historical note impropriety Shen for this gern portent podcast. They actually went back and watch the nineteen Ninety-six finally know the Juventus each each other in wrong, and they encourage the two of you saw. But if not if you wanna see the ugliest uniform ever made Joe's watch the the uniform that event is play with that game. It's actually the most go run this thing I've ever seen. And a good thing that they think they have never played again in that uniform, but they won that game in penalty shots, and he was very tight affair maybe will happen again. You know, twenty three years later Willie. I encourage you to go find the pictures of the new kit that man city just debuted and give it a run for the money of potentially the ugliest thing you've ever seen. It's just an actual geometric mishmash of every one of their their last several jerseys. And it's it's actually quite quite horrendous. Yeah. But you know, now, we a little sort of compression shirts and compression shorts and everybody looks like superman in bills and those uniforms to really watch really fun to go back in nineteen ninety six. It seems like they all went to seek ears or KMart. And then bought you know, whatever was on the the kangaroos they're all like triple X L. It's also for eight to deny. I mean, they all are in the incredibly bagging hor random sleep fittings uniform in really funny because it was the final of byu via the wasn't called Champions League them Champions League would think that that would be the best. Looked really ridiculous. It's really fun to watch. So anyway, there we go. Thank you for that piece of advice. I encourage all the listeners out there to go look up the ninety six final I will say that. I would most certainly not be sad to see. I XE go through. I would I think part of me will be rooting for them. Even though I do like Juventus as well. And I think this is probably the game. I am the most excited for in the quarterfinals. There's something just very tantalizing about the two different kind of philosophies and styles of these two teams. I'm excited to see it play out. But read you get to start us off on the big one, Manchester United Barscelona how you feel in. It's been a rocky couple of weeks for for our buddy OG s. Couple losses. First back to back losses for Manchester United since since he took over. He's looked human which unfortunate Sobe would continue his demi-god run through the end of the season. But this is a tie that's rife with history, especially going back to maybe the most famous Champions League final of all time when the most famous Champions League goal of all time suicide school Shire scoring in the ninety third minute. I believe against Barcelona in the final two to bring it home for Manchester United. You know, that's essentially grasping at is that there's some sort of magic that he can conjure full through his experience. You know, have an incredible team talk or something not I really don't have a lot of faith in Manchester. United can can can win this one Barcelona. Have just looked incredible over the past over the season. Really Bessie has shown Gleich glimpses of of his absolute prime. He's I think trying to bake all remember the fact that he actually is one of the best players in the world. You know, it's almost like fatigue that we have we could give him the ball door every year. But just to keep our lives a little spicy. We have to give it to other people. I they they just really look Barcelo stoppable. That being said there is a little bit of magic with Manchester. United. And maybe they used it all up just to get to where they are now. But I'm hoping there's a little bit left somebody go with Manchester United so reads conjuring magic or hoping hoping that oh, gee has magic in his in his team talk is what it's going to come down to Willie essentially a banking on that. We will do you have a logical counterpoint to reads magic. You know, read is a prime example of hope over experience here. There is what are you talking about? He's predicting Porto I ax in Manchester United. I think he's totally totally experienced. I'm going to tell you. I agree with everything you said read, exactly the. You know, I think that Barcelona is playing beautifully absolutely beautifully. I don't know if you watch the goals that messy or less weaken that gets the the he had a hot trick three goals. I'm better than the other. I mean, the actual stadium there were playing and relevant. These into the stood up and give messy standing ovation doubles Cup in whole too often. No. And you're absolutely right. Mris back to his best. I don't think is one of the better player think he is the best of the best is back on top of swat is because really recover. His Mojo splaying extremely well them belly. Unfortunately, think will not be playing his Kurt. But the team is playing credibly will the defense was a little bit suspect. I think the gate was a little bit distracted with you know, is Davis Cup reinvention of the beginning of the season. Kids back into the game in fully concentrating scoring goals defending extremely well. I think are. Sologne? I used to look stalking unstoppable. Think they are unstoppable in. I don't think you know, the magic the goal that. By the way, the goal was Oregon's by your Munich in Barcelona in nineteen ninety nine. And you know, it's funny. How soccer works, right? I mean old is going the circles get closed in so many ways. But I don't think that the the magic that. And really the tremendous motivation that he has inspiring his team assaults here will actually be. In the and Manchester United again, you know, you look this are the they're supposed to be the eight best teams in Europe of this points, and the with all your respect to both of you. I don't think men sister really belongs here and they've terrifically. Well, they were they played very well that were also lucky, but they played very well, again, PS G and again with all due respect to both of you. I think p is you would have been a more a tougher. Adversary to whoever will actually faced them, but Magister night is here the cover huge history in you know, they cannot win anything else. Right. So this would be a very very big boost to their morale. I think they're dangerous, but I think our salon Nuys superior, but I see here also a three or four goal difference. Take the knife back. The warned you had the throwing the three to four goal difference. I mean like that was that really necessary. I mean, you've only decided to to include the goal difference in two of the games. One had to be Manchester. United. I'm I'm torn I'm torn I go back and forth on this one back and forth. I think I'm very I'm very, you know, I think about. Back to the group stage. And I predicted that Manchester United we're gonna lose and not progress, and it didn't work out where they made it through. And I was like oh man rooting against them must have worked. And then I said all they're going to be g and they did so rooting for them worked. And maybe it was because you gotta root against them when marina was there. And you gotta root for them when soldiers there, but I take solace in the idea that matches United beating Barcelona in the quarter-finals seems just about as ridiculous as Manchester United beating g in the round of sixteen and somehow as as reading puts it we had just enough of that magic sprinkle to cross that finish line. I think I shudder frankly, at the idea of Manchester United dealing with the Barcelona attack messy and Suarez alone. I mean, just but any of it. I mean, throwing Cotino he'll probably have a fantastic. Day in bringing out all his Liverpool. The Liverpool side of him den Bailey. I mean, good luck of single Manchester United player keeping up with him. And then as we said, no messy, his, absolutely brilliant. Where I take a little bit of solace is maybe we can be counterattacking enough, and if Marcial is fit and rash is on his day that maybe we can make life complicated for them on the other side as you read as you pointed out, I'm a little unhappy that somehow the luster has kind of the sheen has been rubbed off and Pogue seems to order to be looking at Real Madrid this summer, and all of these other things that you just lose two games. And all of a sudden it's back to kind of the chemistry. I don't know. It doesn't feel like it did a few weeks ago. So what do I do with all that information? Obviously, you throw logic out the window. You double down on your heart. And you say Manchester United's gonna win this thing. And so I'm going to I'm going to predict Manchester United go through. They haven't really surprise. I didn't expect that. This is the whole point of having this conversations and really surprised that himself you go the Vince himself on a couple of game just out of the conversation here, and the thing you did to I mean United. I mean, we all love the history, and you know, what the team events, but. But. I don't know. Can you see them winning in Barcelona? They will actually have to know win at home and they'd be tied Camp Nou. You know, it's hard for me to see that. You're one of the best goal is in the business went to the United those and may help. But I really think they're going to the defense is going to be overwhelmed and. You know on less plug by comes out inspired and or wants decides that he's going to defend as well as attack. I think they're going to be overrun over run. But it's going to be, you know, I it's a real with the exception of Lieber pool portal. I think the other three games are going to be fascinating to watch the watch. And you know, this is going to be a thank two of the most successful teams in the world right in terms germs revenue in terms of profitability. You know, it's the two giants going. The chiller is going to be wonderful to watch. I just think Celona is is just a it at a great great moment and Manchester is in less grade woman that's all in in response to your comments about pug ball. All I point. You to Willie is our friend Frankie diong who knew he was going to Barcelona. So he helped stabbed the knife deep in. Into Real Madrid. And I think pogo, you know, he's I in Real Madrid. So he's gonna want to take it to Barcelona. So you know, I think he's gonna this is his audition tape, and he wants to get out of here. So, you know, we'll we'll take it while we can. And then we go our separate ways. I guess, but it's going to be it's gonna be a tough match-up. But I I'm looking at it and I see with my predictions. I I've got three Premier League teams in the semi-finals and. So that's a that's a statement. But Manchester United, you know, I think and I think they don't have to win at home and then tie at the Camp Nou. We saw what what happened against PS g we can lose to nil at home and have every hope in the world we have every hope in the world Willie because we have our other secret weapon. It's not just OG s and the magic we got Patrice ever in the stands, and he's just antagonizing the the opponent fans getting under people skins making, you know, homophobic remarks that potentially he's going to get him in trouble with the authorities in France. And you know, what I expect him to bring a different. Let's cut the homophobic remarks out. But I think he'll be there. And you know, starting fights in the in the stands, and we could use that passion. Tree of road. Only fights the other teams fans he also fights with his own team. And so no, I it's gonna be a I don't know if you won't but three on on your side. But. You know, it's going to be game. Play. I in Manchester that doesn't kill my sister United either this this as we now hosting the second game. At least historically hasn't been true lately. Exactly boasting the second game to be good look p is g was very badly coached. A political Madrid? Surprisingly was extremely badly coached. I really don't think that you going to see Val Verde making the same is the with our up and. But you know, you never know. I think that the game is is going to be very onto watch. I would be surprised again, Manchester. United can put the a real fight here. But we'll we'll knowing that couple of weeks read any final thoughts on these predictions. Only thing I'd say is you know, Osias has had problems when he tries to play. Marino ball into shut it down. He's at his most successfully sort of let's every let's all players B O been free in sort of that classic just uptempo attack, heavy counter attack. There's a double just not not that negative football that Maria had brought into the club. So, and I don't think he's going to be able to, you know, have that that beggar mentality against Barcelona because he doesn't have the players frankly to to stand up to to the attacking tried in Barcelona's. I think it's to be an open at open match whether or not magic actually score is gonna be another another issue. But I think it's gonna be like like we've all said fun to watch. I think potentially the worst thing that could happen would be if man you gave soul Shire, the permanent job before the Barcelona Games because then he would actually have something. To lose. And so hopefully, we don't get that that display faith until after after the Champions League is over entirely Willie. Any final thoughts. I'm rooting for Manchester City against Ajax in the semi final. And then bars too long Lieber pool that's going to be in the end to very juicy games to watch. Indeed. Indeed. I we quick. Yeah. Quick note about the ninety six I x bent this final just took ticket. A quick look at the lineups for that match. Goalkeeper axe advantage Sar. No wonder. Those are the real glory days. I appreciate how differing we are in our predictions. We're not we're not all that align. The only place we were almost entirely aligned was Liverpool defeating Porto until read a rogue. Right. Turn off into either glory or despair. No one knows. Guys. What is really really interesting after all very boring classification rounds in August than than the group stage, which is a waste of time. All of you know, we may actually end up. Let's say that age. Excellent. The beat Juventus. You know, if the semi finals would be Manchester City to benches Barscelona and Lieber pool. Just just for a second that if all the favorites actually will. If those are the four last standing teams there is some just as there. I mean, I do really think that those are the four best teams in Europe right that and whether they make it to the semi finals is a big if but to me, you know, we have in the set of eight four of what I considered to be the best teams right now in Europe and therefore in the world. So there is some you know, that all there is a the curation distillation you end up with. Real quality here with real quality. I agree with you. And it's gonna make it all the more interesting when we're doing our semi-final predictions, and it's Tottenham against I XE Porto against Manchester. United. No official who like leave committed Kara Curie. That's imagined the difference in worldwide audience if the final of the Champions League is Porto Ajax, I mean, it'd be. I can't wait to see the kids in the poll where in Moraga jerseys international superstar. It's the future. You just you're living in the past. Welcome to the welcome to the new world new world order ball forever. Well, gentlemen, I this was a lot of fun. I look forward to doing it again for the semifinals Willie will have you back on the show for the Tuesday quarterfinal matches. Is that correct? That is so thank you for inviting me again. Yes, we're not gonna kick you out just because you're voting for Barcelona and read we'll have you on the Wednesday episodes, and we look forward to that youthful. So so there you have it. We're checking back in with you the listeners on Tuesday, April ninth for Tottenham man's city Liverpool Porto on the ninth as well. And then on the tenth. We have. I XE Juventus Manchester United Barcelona, and then we finish it all up just a week later on the sixteenth and seventeenth of April. And then then we're we've got the semifinals not too long after that. So we're starting to really exceleron things which is fun and exciting read Willie. Thank you both very much. A lot of fun. Read your goch. Can't wait to do it again. And there you have it until our episode on April ninth that is the end of stoppage-time.

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Champions League Group H Preview

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Champions League Group H Preview

"Ah. What's up. Everybody welcome to the start of stoppage-time. I am your host max Baril is your podcast voted to the Champions League and there could only be one man today mister Reed. Ryan back on the show. Welcome sir glory, glory, Man, United glory, glory, Man, United, as you all know tonight die hard. Manchester United fans could only be one man here to talk Man. United group with me, closing out are group's group, preview episodes. Tomorrow we get. Our first day of games cannot wait. Get to get to see how Algo. I mean read. How many screens are you? Gonna have open to watch these games. I'm going to be sort of like in GoldenEye with Boris has got the wall of screens. I like it. That's my plan. That's a throwback reference to our young listeners. GoldenEye a video game on the Nintendo sixty four. But yeah, that's exactly what what life is going to be like, and it's gonna be. It's gonna glorious. We're going to finally get some games going, but we got quite the group here to talk about today. This is this is a tough one. I'm glad we kinda end on a high note gets talk about our favorite team, but this is a challenge in group. Would you say? Yeah, this is going to be a tough one. A couple of real blockbuster teams. And then you know the classic. Spanish. Upstart. That always provides issues to to the devils? Yes, indeed. All right. Let's let's let's flip this one because we're going to save Manchester United until the end because you and I will have the most to say, I imagine about them. You're gonna probably this might be a long episode folks. You might hear more than just what is relevant to the Champions League. You might get just a full on breakdown of what's going on with Manchester United right now. So we'll say that till the end Juventus obviously big dogs as well of this group, so we'll get to them in a moment. Let's start with those young starts at BSE young boys. Now, if you're like me, you wanna learn about more about this team. I give you full warning right now. Joan just start go typing in young boys into Google. You're gonna get into trouble. I think the FBI is now monitoring by my search. But anyway, the Swiss champions read how long's it been since young boys been in the champions the it's been a long thirty two years since the young boys made it to the Champions League. That's my first fact I have about them. Tell me second fact is they play at the door stadium. You. You would have that as a fact. You know, young boys winked or if I mean the jokes just right themselves of this team. You know, if if you're going to call y'all get your reads IP address. I don't associate with. I've never really been friends with him. I don't know how you got on this show off the grid is just only the dark web. Yeah, Turk with. Goodness, also not a safe place to be. All right. This was team? Yeah. I mean, not not the Swiss, not the Swiss champions of lates. We're used to seeing basil appear in the Champions League, but. All credits to the young boys, and that's not going to get old and I don't necessarily have all that much to say other than you know they're in for a fight in this group. It's not going to be easy for them. No. All right. Well, if you're if you're a big fan of young boys tweet at me and tell me what I need to know about young boys, which young boys you should be looking out for. Oh yes. I'd like to know law Swiss young boys, but you know, there's a, there's a few others in their one one, couple Irish, young boys. You know, I want to move on. Cut it out. Just in show's been canceled anyway. Apologies if offended by all that it's it's late at night. We're getting a little loopy here. But anyway, this this team certainly in for a fight. I think we're going to be a little bit out class, but I'm sure they will be extremely excited to be here and to welcome the likes of Juventus Manchester United in Valencia to the Wankdorf. All right. Let's talk Valencia Valencia. As you say, it's. Severe, not in the Champions League this season like they were last year, but Valencia, you know, you always have that kind of next level to your Spanish team and they always complicate things Barcelona, Real Madrid, even let's go Madrid, usually a class above, but teams like Valencia severe. These are talented teams and Valencia are not to be taken lightly. Valencia has been kinda out in the wilderness. The past couple of years they've gone through some changes haven't been able to keep a manager been able to lead them to sort of arrow stability who can who can forget the Gary Neville era of Valencia. Whoever thought that was gonna work out that like Gary is going to lead you. It was going to lead them to glory. I mean, like, yeah, he could barely speak English. They, they're trying to get him to lead a team in Spain. I mean, come on. But they've got Marcelino in there and he's kind of brought them back given some stability to their squad. Their transfer business. The summer was good. They didn't have any real major losses instead they, they brought back Zala gweat us from PS g made that alone permanent deal, got Kevin Gamero from Athletico Madrid and and machine bats on loan from from Chelsea. And then. Dennis Cherishev and Joffrey BIA. Also could be major impact players a growth brought in Cherishev on loan and permanent permanent deal. I think Cherishev obviously had a totally breakout World Cup and we'll hopefully keep that form going. He really, really made quite the impact and impression on the world. I hope I hope it that forward momentum just keeps carrying him because he was fun to watch as you say, get this on the other side of the spectrum, less than stellar World Cup. But hopefully that was more an anomaly than anything else we shall see could be a great year at Valencia last. Yeah, exactly. So you hope it just, you know, whatever reason to click with Portugal, I hope he gets, you know, hopefully that didn't psych him out. Conduct is a great defender. I think he's an impact player as you say, and I love Rodrigue. Oh, he didn't really get. I think he came on late against Russia if I'm not mistaken before spaying bouncing the World Cup, and I thought he looked so made the team so much more exciting. He so pacey and I think he's very talented. I think he's the kind of player who can really cause tremendous problems for defense. And we can replicate his ability to knock himself in the face off goalpost kick, then we're all going to enjoy this group. Yeah, I think Rodriguez really gonna be the the most important player for Balenciaga. You know, play real compact defense and then spring on the counter and Rodrigue. Like you said, pacey. He's got a real most for goal and a could be a real problem, especially for a team like Manchester United, who has trouble keeping possession effectively and whose defense appears shaky at best at the moments. But. Well, we'll get to that. We might have some tears on today's episode. Oh. It comes from love. Yeah. I mean, as you say Rodriguez, absolutely the guy you want on on the counter Bosch you I e is, you know, he's both sizable and pacey. So look for him to make a difference. Get us if he's playing on the wing, these Cherishev. These are all pacey players as you say. You got defenders like Jose Louise guy who's I think he's got a bit of speed in his step. I think this is a good team. It's really just. They haven't had the best start to the season, and so you know, but no one necessarily does unless you're Liverpool right now pre international break. I, I'd like to see this team of come together a little bit and show a little bit of that more exciting form, but. I think as you say, this is a team that can cause real problems also really excited about their. They've got a young midfielder Farren Torres who's been sort of billed as the next big thing in Spain. Was given his first team debut under Marcelino, and he's sort of been a fixture in the squad ever since I just just signed a new deal with a, you know, a big anti Madrid release clause hundred hundred million euros. So I think they have some real high expectations for him. Yeah. He could be a breakout player for them on this. On this big stage, it's always exciting. When you get to see younger players kind of break out team Valenciennes you say they're the kind of team who who might have, you know, we'll take those chances and starting a young player in the in the Champions League, and that can be real exciting for them. And hopefully they kind of capitalize on that. Any any closing thoughts on this team. A lot of the teams we've talked about so far play. Possession based possession based tactical schemes. And once he has kind of old school and that they just sit back absorb pressure and they really, they can hit you on the counter-attack and it's not. I I, it's become sort of unfashionable to do that. And so playing against some of these more modern tactical teams like event this and immense just United could pose a real issue. Yes. You know, I will. It's not necessarily the most pivotal position, but they did lose their right Bhagwat consul to Juventus. One of the many talking points of briberies here. I think that's a big loss. No question about that. And just because our other co host, the professor Willie cats Baril will would be upset if I didn't mention it. They have. They have lost Simone Zaza fans of the game. If you were around in two thousand sixteen for the euro's was a crucial penalty. Miss for Italy in what can only be described as a a dance. Maybe in the run-up to his penalty kick, it took an eternity. It involved many, many little steps and then just a fun during miss. So I think that's actually a benefit to this team to lose our good friends. Simone Zaza considered one of the worst penalties in history. That's pretty much always known for at this point. Hey, you know what? At some point, you gotta look at your career and say, what's the way I get into the history books? And if it means, take the worst penalty of all time. That's fine. Also, of course, losing on a free transfer, Manchester United legend. We know you got an idol to them in your back closet. Read Noni back to sporting. So there you go. Came the prodigal son return from Wednesay indeed. But there you go, I think. But I think this is a good team. They certainly have the potential to be good and I don't count this team out for sure. Agree. Let's let's skip on over to what would probably be the favourite of the group you would imagine Juventus new, the new home of the man. The myth legend the quads. Cristiano Renaldo after his hundred five euro one hundred, five million euro transfer at thirty three years of age has yet to score a goal for Juventus in his first three games. I'm gonna be. I'm going to be honest with you. Read I like Juventus chances not just getting out of this group. I think they might very well win the Champions League this season. It's very apparent that they're all in after this acquisition of an, although they've got. Under Allegra. They've had four doubles in the past four seasons and so domestic successes simply not enough. Yeah, they're measured now by their ability to win the Champions League. So of course they bring in the specialists Rinaldo who's become sort of a master of the Champions League with five cups to his name. They're in a real window mode. You know, he's thirty three, but obviously he's in peak physical condition. His role has changed over the years. He's not that speedy winger that we knew as on Manchester United. He's more of a. Stay stay, stable. Number nine, target man. Yeah, but he's very effective in that role berry. Although, I mean, we might see him still shift a little bit. I mean, obviously he's got a little bit free license to move. He pleases you don't keep Cristiano Renaldo in one spot, but he isn't quite clicked yet in the as you say as more of the number nine, we might see him shift a little bit more left, but I'm just going to say it right now if Real Madrid. Obviously they have won three straight champions leagues with Cristiano Renaldo, the leading the scoring every time if Juventus now win the Champions League. I'm sorry, Cristiano Renaldo. Put him down best of all time. Put down, read best of all time the goat. So I actually think he's going to be affective. His name is going to carry more weight than his actual talent at this point. That's fine. Okay. With it. So is he so think about this in the first couple of games that you've meant this? They played them a number nine out the top of the formation. He wasn't very effective. They shifted him out wide. He drags more defenders onto him. He doesn't get on the scoresheet, but he unlocks space for the rest of the team to operate in tonal. Essentially, he's just an very expensive. Tarp, it just like sucking defenders into him and they can't get away and man's Zukas three to operate. And just rack up goals might have thirty goals this year we're Elda might have fifteen, and I don't necessarily expect him scoreline goals. I expect him to suck up defenders and allow the rest of the team to operate, and that's fine if they win, that's great. Rinaldo 's lead them to another another championship or another champion's league title. But I don't actually think that's, I don't think it'd be a result of his individual brilliance, like you say, with a player like Messi. That's fair. I think that you making good point. I think it's an early season effect where if teams are overcompensating and they're ease drawing defenders out to the wing and players like Minzu catch, capitalizing scoring goals, teams are going to realize you can't do. Do it completely. Otherwise you're still gonna get scored on in which case you're going to have to just try and play a little bit of both and cover everybody in which case Cristiana will then find more space and I expect him to kick into gear. I know he hasn't scored yet. I think that is more the exception to the rule. I think he'll he'll get his groove. He's too much of a poacher. I mean, he's come very close or ready headers going just barely wide. He such he so good in the air. I mean, it's like his, I wouldn't say necessarily under appreciated, but he so deadly with the headers. I think he's going to rack and some goals and and I'm sticking with it. Cristiano Renaldo move to Juventus and gives them the Champions League. You know, I'm I'm putting it down putting it down, but what more scoreless match away from disteclared him a bust, bust going for the. Obviously, we're both excited to see the prodigal son returned to Manchester United. That'll be that'll be glorious return against his his former coach Jose Marino for many, many just so much drama there. So many storylines foot. Obviously, there was, you know, mile talk Cristiano Renaldo, returning to Manchester United, really more a contract bargaining tool than anything else that's actual of Paul pod bug going back to you Venice after leaving Manchester United for you Venice, just like if you're Paul pug, but you just can't. You just can't go anywhere else. You can't go back to dimensions. You can't flip flopping teams back and forth, lead them to them to the champions entitled go there. View. I've used up all my young boys jokes anyway. I think I mean, this team, obviously we're spending a lot of time talking about Christiane Rinaldo my thoughts on that. You know, there are a lot of criticism of how much money they spent. I think just in terms of financial decision, Christine, you know spending one hundred five million euros on him. Piece of cake deal. I think totally worth it. He's already raised the profile of Juventus and the Syria. More importantly, no one go to websites ESPN wherever you get your soccer news. You've never seen in the last season so many like what's going on in the Syria this weekend. It's it's all because of that man, so, but this is certainly not a one man team. I love that they brought in Douglas cost from from buyer Munich. I think he is a dangerous dangerous player, jock. He had a really nice year for them last year. No, they brought on a permanent basis, which is great. Yeah, but it's, I mean, from the transfer business, it's very clear that they are in it to win it. Now they made some good upgrades. Replacing some agent players like we mentioned Jau Selo and Emerson signed to replace Stefan, lick Steiner and semi Kadurah. We're both kind of get rid of this play. Everyone should fire Sammy playing anywhere at this point. I love it. I love 'em Richon I'm I think Liverpool made a mistake in losing him along the way. I think he's extremely talented player. I think Juventus will benefit from his talents. Yeah. Geneva phone has gone, but we'll Jack Shehzad. He is gonna step up in his place. You know, who's playing some last year. They were splitting goalkeeping duties, and I always had a soft spot for him. He's, he's a great follow on social media and kind of a weird dude. So. Happy, see and get a chance to to really shine in that number one number one jersey. Then Leonardo Baluchis back from Milan. It's a pair up with Chile that that really stalwart defensive pairing that led them to success in the past. You know, I think that they realize that that move didn't work out for anyone. And so they're bringing them back, giving them a chance to shine in in the place where he made his name, one hundred percent. I, I mean, I think in terms of defenders with Joel solo. Kill any who's obviously just ageless. It seems. Alexandra is he's a great leftback I, I'm not as high on Hsieh's knee as you are. I mean, do you really think he is a world-class Goldie? I mean, I know you might like following on Twitter. You getting your updates, Instagram, like the cool kids, but. Is he, you know, when it comes a quarter-final semi-final you're facing another top team. He who you want between the sticks, I'd rather have him than Alison. Okay. Okay. Kind of a reductive argument doesn't necessarily get you anywhere. It's liver both Roma last year and Liverpool. This year I haven't necessarily won the Champions League, so I'm not sure not sure what to do with that. But. Top five, but he's top twenty. Maybe. Okay. He's he's good enough where I feel confident I don't expect him to try. Kroft turn in his in his own box like Alison would expect him to sort of be solid and not making stakes just on the math. Those thirty two team tournament sixteen of those teams are going to to not make it out of the group, but he's a top twenty goalie necessarily not exactly like top level. But anyway, we'll see how he does. I agree with you. I I think he's he's gotten maybe a little bit of a bum rap in his earlier parts of his career. He, I think it's honorable what Juventus have done where they said, you know, this is your job to have after phone leaves, and they've stuck true to that. When I, you know, I could easily have seen when the time comes and now your phone is out the door and you're like, oh, so it says knee full-time now that that's when you may be splashed the cash on a new goalie anyway. So credit to them when they bring in. The AC Milan keeper, something like that. Someone who. Someone some big name player that might very well be if I mean if they get bounced, I'm sure that will happen. But I mean this team as we've talked about with other teams where you don't, I don't really see a weakness other than maybe their goalkeeper. I mean, many Banacci's. Fantastic. If two. I wanna talk about that for a second. Yeah, but Tweety is is fantastic. One Quadra tow is such a dangerous player. I wrote Rigo bent on core is a player of the future who might still make a difference. Core is a player on this team. I mean, you know, he wasn't bad at the World Cup. I think, you know, in with players like him and Richon like you're really looking at the future coming together. I think those guys, we'll see maybe some time. Maybe those young boys. But yeah, let's talk polity Bella because here's the issue. I mean, Cristiano Renaldo. Not exactly a player who like helps those around him flourish in a way and like axes, a mentor. But if Cristiano Renaldo Impala deba- can just find a way to play off each other. Well, like we so good. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. I think Rinaldo is coming into this understanding that he's the old dog. Yeah, that he needs these other players in order to make this work. You can't just do it all himself like the early days, a Real Madrid, so expect to expect to see a lot more link-up play a lot more patience from Rinaldo. You know where he might have just been very frustrated early. I think that there's going to. He understands that there's going to be a learning curve to get this little workout. And I think it's everyone's best interests that it does work out because you could see the the crowd and Turin turning on this team. If they just can't score, you know the, are they gonna start. Booing Rinaldo see happening. I think you'd have to go number of more games and I just don't think Christiane let's go that long without scoring. If nothing else the winning penalty at some point, just let him take it. Just like cool things down, but will. I mean it's how they started the season. We'll see if if it comes back around if they stick with it, but just on paper, if Cristiano Renaldo playing Moore's number nine and deba- behind him and then Douglas cost an Quadra on the wings. Like, are you kidding me? God terrifying. Yeah, just a real quick. Looking at the the Italian papers from from last week they've already started late. I know you which I know you have delivered to your home on on on a daily basis. I'm a huge fab, longtime subscriber. Tuttosport of course, slammed as the nowhere man already. You know, it's only been a couple of games, but they're not afraid to turn on him, you know. All right, let's do something I, you know, he's, they were all very excited to see him and you know, yes, he's looked a little bit. We're getting to see a little bit of that. Temper tantrum Rinaldo and his frustration which is never a good sign, but I'm, I just think he's too good oklaho- bounceback once once the Champions League starts, he's going to score four goals on Manchester United. He'll be fine, and that's really all that matters for them anyway. All right. Let's talk Manchester, United, are our beloved are struggling, Manchester, United finish second place in the Premier League last season, having a tough time, tough time keeping up with pep Guardiola and his Manchester City team. But this team just. Really playing. Super great. The first thing I asked myself when I was looking at Manchester United was, are they any better than the team that was swept out of the Champions League last year by severe. And what conclusion did you come to? Absolutely not. If anything, there just seems to be more chaos, less cohesion. It's like the defenders got worse as. If you can tell very down on on how can you not be? I mean, you know, it's just as you're a hundred seven, right? Which is that? I mean, we came out of the World Cup, and our good friend does Marino is just been like wining and crying. Since literally the minute the woke up was over. He was been, oh, this isn't a terrible season where things are really rough and I don't even know. I'm gonna find MARCY. Like I understand things happen, whatever you have crunch issues, there's no worse look than finding a player for spending a few extra days with his newborn child. Yeah, when the preseason in Los Angeles and like it's irrelevant and you're finding this guy for being with his his new baby, like. He's already had a tough summer. He was left out of the French World Cup squad the year. They win the World Cup. I mean, it's just things were going well for him, and he's kind of become the scapegoat a little bit this year. Now that Luke Shah's is playing out of his mind. Marito's punching renewed the new punching bag and Marshall's become that guy and breaks my heart. I think Marcial is such a talented player. I think if you're not if you gave not saying he's most consistent player in the world, but I think he's one of those players that the more he plays, he's going to play better and he's just not playing. So he's playing worse and it becomes self filling prophecy. I think he could be a world world class talent. I mean, we've seen what he can do, but he's just being stifled and we're stuck in this horrible situation where Marino just doesn't like it doesn't wanna play in, but Manchester United have him under this long contract and they recognize his talent, and they're probably looking like, well, how much longer marine you actually going to be around. So just keep him around until new coach. Comes along who might make him thrive. It's just it would be silly to sell him. So he just remains and it's depressing. Because like other players before him where you you bring in these young talented strikers it always kind of it was the same teacher Reto. We brought him in, he scored tons of goals, and then he kind of fell out of favor didn't play as much and then became the self-fulfilling prophecy. Next thing, you know, he's out the door and he was not saying he was. The next coming of greatness, but it's just that kind of thing over and over again. I just I don't know what to do there. You know, this isn't Marino's tried and true. Pattern where he, no, he, he will pick a player, alienate them and sorta causes stinking grumpy, and and then eventually he'll lose the lose the players. And I think that's coming. It's a matter of time. But let's let's let's go through this team. Let's do starting to back and then go and then work our way forward. Yes, let's do it. Dovid Donna, the former glory, man, all of a sudden he goes off to this little side tournament called the World Cup. He stinks it up and now he's not so good anymore. And what happened? It's driving me nuts. Yeah, he suddenly human. I. I, it's terrified of all the things that have happened this season. Just ahead not being able to make basic stops is just in Newry aiding. Yeah. No. I mean, it's like, you know, you're on the field of battle. You're warriors out there. Just slashing it giving you inspiring you. And then next thing you know, he's taking a broad sword of the gut false to the ground and all everyone else in your in your armies. Just like, then then what do we have now it's it's demoralizing. I don't know what happened at the World Cup, but it just didn't work for him and he's come back, mortal man. Is it you think Courtois going around the dribs and just knowing officially that dream is dead, that just stuck in Manchester forever. He's now here. He was always playing for that Real Madrid contract, and now it's gone and. You know, I think he's all sad about it. I think it'll kill. He'll play himself into into form again. It's just a matter of time. I think it's confidence, little shook. I mean, he is incredible. Every every every God even Jesus wandered in the in the wilderness for a little bit. He's he'll come back. All right. Well, that's not an understanding. We're not. Verging into hyperbole in the slightest. I mean, if you're if you're if you had your druthers here, what is this defensive line look like to you? So actually long, actually young and until you have been great. Squad players for the past couple of years, but they're both getting old and they're losing that pace and they need to be replaced. Thankfully, Luke Shaw has managed to just absolutely up and expectations be named the player of the month. He's just come out. Guns blazing in great, which is great to see. Because again, that was one of those frustrating. Like when you see some Marino and just kind of crushing on this guy that you're like, this is like the future and you're just ruining it for no reason. So he's in the team and he's looking solid. Hopefully he stays healthy on the right. I'm excited to see Diego Deloitte. The new nineteen year old Argentinian signing. He's supposed to be the future. He's ports, but yeah. But yeah, I thought he was on tinian czar. We got a lot of facts rolling around in these heads of ours, and you know, bound bound to mix fax of every time once in one. Yeah. I mean, again, certainly a player with tremendous upside, but is he a Champions League player? This year's going to be, it's going to have to be, okay, go on. And then in the middle, this is where things get a little bit disgusting. Essentially choosing between small ING by Phil Jones and Lindelof. Yes. The fact that the fact that you we have to even say that you're choosing between. Phil, Phil Jones is in the mix is like he's got a garden claim time, recently reassuring to figure is that going well, is that going wealth Jones in his playing time? I just for the sake of it just for the sake of it. I want small ING and Jones to start against Juventus and I just wanna see, Phil Jones deal with Cristiano Renaldo just for the fun of, let's just see how many goals we can let in. It'll be a relevant. Phil Jones look at red card in the first like five minutes anyway. But yeah, like a terrifying prospect. I barely by Lindelof would be the starter I agree with you by Lindelof is my, I think Lindelof play well, the World Cup, I think, by, you know, against good last year, he looked good. Some injury issues, some consistency issues. I think if he can get some confidence get some consistency going, I think he can really be like a, you know, a central pillar for our defense going forward and Lindelof Mike, very well grow into a stalwart partner. For him. It's like there's there is this potential there and despite Marino and his defensive prowess, you just don't really feel like they're improving though. Yeah, they are making some very basic positional blunders. Missing men, marking assignments on quarters. I real basic stuff that as a combat, it shows a lack of skill on the players behalf, but also poor coaching by Marie. Oh, and his his staff yet. So it's it's hard to blame just just the players for for the issues that are that are coming up? No, yeah. I mean, I agree, but. Yeah. I mean, there's not much more to say on that other than. You know, it's they need to. These aren't untalented players Phil Jones aside, and they just need to. Yeah, exactly. They need some leadership. They need to really have a defensive cohesion that just does not even remotely exist. All right. Let's talk midfield go for it. What's your? What's your ideal here? So my ideal would be three man midfield. Madij in the back defensive breaking things up, then either Fred or full Laney. I mean. And then Paul being given some some freedom to to move forward fretful any being that box to box midfielder covering the the defensive space in linking up the defense and the and the attacking attacking forwards. I, for some reason this extremely uninspiring today. About one of the best players in the world. And yet there isn't real creativity in this midfield. I just don't. I throw one Mata in there, but he hasn't looked great. Recently, he looks a little bit washed. I don't know where you going. I mean, obviously, you you, you gotta. You gotta build around pug though. He is essential. Whether it's marina which it probably is not looking towards the future, you gotta find someone who understands man who can bring him that joy. We've seen that when he's enjoying himself. He's playing great. So find someone who makes that guy happy obviously, far more important to the future of Manchester United then Marino or just about anyone else on this team. So I think finding a way to get him integrated and excited is crucial. Yes, I agree with you that it's probably Montijo at the back because I don't think yet that we've seen that Friedkin really fully handle that role. He's got tremendous energy and he's, you know, he's a box to box midfielder, but I'm not sure he's going to just stay centered at the back providing that defensive cover which we desperately need. So I think you've got to kind of favor multiple defensive midfielder. So I agree with you. I mean to me, I think it's it's pug. Fred, and obviously, I think players like Laney who unfortunately is one of our best players at the moment. All of a sudden. I don't know where that reality came from. It's right next reality. But anyway, I think he has a role to play and the one who I think is again, who you know, it seems like he's the favourite son one moment and then not. The next is ender Herrera, who is out of currently. It'll be out of the contract this season. He's upset that he hasn't been offered a new contract. He's pretty pretty sure. And I would imagine he's correct that he'll have no shortage of suitors come January, who would be more than happy to sign him on free contract. I think we would be amiss to let him go. I think he is a talented player. I think he can play that deep lying role. Obviously it can be a little unpredictable and he's not. He's he's an easily carded player. Started started at centerback. Yeah. That was a mistake. But yes, you can. You can technically start any player at center back if you want to read. I think I think I'd like to see him essentially if he's maybe deputy to Mata and maybe grows grows into that that role or if Fred is can show that he, you know, I wouldn't necessarily Mondavi not a young man and he slow. So ideally, I hope we're building towards a future. Where Fred is that that deeper line midfielder and you got Pogue and maybe let under Harare move forward a little bit more or God forbid bringing new exciting midfielder. Andres Pereira's been playing. We'll see what he's capable of. I, I don't know. I personally, I could see two years from our Rena top ten list on ESPN or gold dot com or something top ten Manchester United busts. And number seven is Fred just feels very sure. Feels like it's coming. He looked like a chicken with his head cut off against Brighton, just making stupid fouls. Just moving in from the Ukrainian league. It's it's an adjustment. No question. I think he, I don't know. I think I'm, I'm optimistic, maybe I'm being silly, but I'm up to mystic on that guy. I like Endor Harare lot. I'd like to see him get more war time in the midfield and I'd be happy to see him start over, Fred. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's given that he has more experience with the team. Maybe Fred is the player who's coming off the bench and it's polka Monson in Harare. I like that. I've got. I got no real patients for Jose Moreno. His Scott, Nick Tomei experiment. Like come on, let's act. Let's act like a world class team and Mecom as great fine. He can be the future, but let's he's he's a care about Cup player. Not player. All right. Offense where what's it looking like for you? So lukarco Lukaku. You have to play them up top. You have to. And then. This video controversial, but I cannot stand Alexis Sanchez. I think that was a terrible citing. Very unmanned. Just United player. Essentially, it feels like they just decided to pay him only to prevent him from going to city. But now that paint him a ton of money and they've got a play him. I know he can change games and he's a world class player, but I just don't see it. I don't like him. Attitude, I don't know, but. Just doesn't seem like fits in the team with it for me. I don't know. What do you think I agree with you in the sense? I don't think he's, I don't think he's right for Manchester United fits. I like him. So I'm not I, I don't. I don't like him. If you scoring against us. But as a as a player, I think he's he's scintillating. I think he's very exciting. His attitude doesn't bother me. I just necessarily. I mean, he can be a little pouty at times especially when he's from United, and he's regretting his life choices. But I agree that it was like felt like a total desperation move. I think you're right. That is probably like, you know, we just bought him so he wouldn't go to Manchester City. I think that's well put. I, I agree. You have to play him. I mean, exactly. You broke the Bank to to bring this guy in. Manchester United roll. The dice on that late late in life, signing of Robin van Persie, and it totally worked out. We won the league that season. Thirty million well-spent just to keep the win the league, but this doesn't feel right, and it's just not vibe ING, and maybe a different coach can bring something out of him, but I don't know how much longer he'll be around. This feels this feels like it's got unhealthy, Maria written all at all over it where you bring in, you know. A, you know, a creative star just to see him leave a few minutes later after he realizes that we've sucked the soul right out of Old Trafford. Yeah. So I mean, that leaves you with Lukaku area, and it's going to be Lukaku Sanchez. And maybe I think he'll play Matta out on the wing. I don't know, maybe rash, I, but I don't think he'd trust rash, especially after the red card. Earlier in the season. I see Marci getting getting out, but I don't see that happening. I just don't know who to Midi Andres Pera Herrera. Orlean guard. I mean, these guys just say this, but I don't have any feet and other inspiring to me. Which is not getting your pumped. I I in like an ideal world and had things been going differently. The last couple seasons, I would've loved if we're building towards a current reality where it was Marcial in the left Lukaku in the middle and rash furred on the right and that was our Trident, and they were vibe ING to me. That is, that's a strikeforce built for the future of pure excitement right there. I mean that God, I dream in my mind. I sound so beautiful, so beautiful, sounds fantastic. It is so far from reality that there's no point in even thinking about it because you just find yourself crying in the shower, like Tobias from arrested development. So the reality is, as you say, it's going to be Lukaku in the middle, it'll be Sanchez. And then I think it's probably gonna be Jesse Lynn guard, which is fine maybe. And he's like this player who's just tip toeing around making that next big jump in his career, but likes to kind of retreat back into anonymity. I don't think Juan Mata is the guy as you say. I just I think he's a good player if anything drop him a little further back. But if you need like some goals and you wanna play him in a more offensive midfield role, but I don't think he's, I never. I just don't think he's the winger that we need. So I mean, obviously I would pick. I mean, I want to start rash verd- is other than Poca our most important asset, and I think he has all the everything. We need to be a fantastic player, but he needs needs nurturing, and he needs playing time. And yes, it's true that he was naive to get that red guard. But you know all not handled in the best way by Maurino either. We've got multiple childish people foot. I don't know if you know this read, but he has won three Premier League titles which is more than anyone else currently in the Premier League by two and everyone else has zero. So suck it. Yeah. Well, that's not doing anything. I want to get your thoughts on one thing real quick here there was the big there was the big to do over the summer. Everyone. Everyone hoping Manchester United lure in Zindedine Sadan to be the coach. Would you want the donnas your coach here for Manchester United? So the way I feel about Sadat's kind of the way I feel about Carlo enchilada. He's one of those guys who just like, gets everyone in a in a room and says, you know, let's just go have fun. You guys got there and play. He's not a tactician. He just wants to he's amendment ajar. I mean at this point I wouldn't be upset if za Don came in. I mean, okay. I think he's one of pub idols. I think it would be a lot of a lot of fun to, I think pull will be be out there having fun. And that's one of the things that's really important. I think it'd be good at a good inspiration for the youth. Inspiration for you. But I think that he, you know, he probably bring a good staff with him. I think it'd be nice change. I doubt it's going to happen, but I agree. I was going to happen. I'm going to contradict myself because I agree where I said, just bring someone in to make punga thrive, and I agree with probably do that very thing. But to me not to compare in tactically to to Marino. But to me, it's similar in the sense that I don't think is ever going to be a coach at anywhere for more than three seasons. And I think he's going to be a specialist in winning knockout tournaments, which is frankly, what Marino kind of specializes in to a certain extent. I don't think I don't think the Don showed a tremendous affinity at winning the for winning Lalita. He showed very talented at winning the Champions League, which, frankly is the most important thing and this what the show is about. But I just don't see that as being a building to the future. You know that you're ever going to get another ceramics Ferguson, but you need a player a coach. I think gonna take on that role for more than three years. And I don't think Saddam's ever going to do that either. I think you know, rightfully so he's going to get kind of worn out. He's gonna put everything he's got into it, and I just don't think he's going to have that long jetty. And I don't think he's necessarily have an eye to really building a future for the for the clubs. So to me, it's it's the more current successful version of the same thing we currently have. Well, David Moyes is is still billable. Bring him back. Eating rumor the rumor that he is potentially going to be the next US. Men's national team coach. I read that and immediately walked out at my brain. I would be a tremendous mistake, please that, but I, yeah. David Moyes, never got a fair shake. Let's bring it back. Let's bring him back. Anyway, I do like to building on what you're saying though that about sedan that I imagine. I kind of imagine that anytime his team is down at halftime. He's just like, brings everyone in is like told you about the time headbutted a guy in the World Cup. And you just kind of inspires spies everyone through that one story time and time again. All right there it is Manchester United. Any any final thoughts. You know, I think that they are. Renew can right this ship and get these players playing together. They have the talent to make it far in this tournament there they have some a great collection of players, but they're just are not playing together as a team right now. That is really the worst thing that they just like there's no chemistry out there correctly. Yeah. And so we'll see if that could change. Does. I am very low on them. You know, maybe maybe it's the wrong pairing a certain way where I don't know if we'd see the forest from the trees. We came off very dour on this on this group because we live it and we are not happy with the current reality. But as you say, I mean pulp Oba Kaku Alexis Sanchez. These are world class like some of the best. Literally some of the best players in the world. So, and you've got a coach who for all his faults has a certain talent for winning knockout round tournaments, not necessarily the prettiest way, but he's got a formula for winning then that has proven successful in the past. So those things combined and you say, sure, why can't Manchester United going win this tournament or make a super deep run, but it's it's the chemistry aspect. That's that's keeping us all. Sad. Yeah, I'm very excited to watch these matches because it's going to be roller coaster. I can already tell, and I think for all their fault and for all our faults in the league and everything that's going to be, these players are going to be at their highest on Champions League day. Now the question is, is Marino going to just try and spite everyone and cut off his nose despite his face and start MC Tomei Andres Pereira Marcos Rojo and jogo Deloitte on on Champions League day just to show all the other players that he can. That would be a shame. All right. Let's talk predictions here. What's. How you see this group. So I've got young boys at the bottom. They unfortunately don't have really have a chance here. The hardest choice is between second and third. So should we should we do this in sandwich style. You've got young boys in the bottom. Who do you have at the top of this group? Read event this. I've got you vent, so the top. So we're on the same page here Juventus at the top young boys at the bottom, how we have second and third playing out. I cannot in my in my right mind, say Manchester United Argo are gonna be bumped out the group stages. I can't. I can't do it. They have to make it if they don't God, that is just a colossal failure on everyone's part. If they get knocked out in the in the Champions League in the group stages, I can't imagine like players like Paul bar Lukaku stain, they they'd have to leave or or radio will get fired. I mean, it's just insane. It's insane to think that so they're gonna finish second version. Third, it could easily go the other way though easily. Yeah, I, I agree. Manchester United, get knocked out. In the group stage, I think Marino gets fired. Then. Assuming we're not like somehow on undefeated run in the in the Premier League. But those both happened, I would be very shocked that we are somehow undefeated and getting knocked out in the group stage. I got a faith in Manchester United. I have to I. So I agree with you. I agree with you. My heart and every I dunno, I, it's all their Manchester United in second place except for the fact that our players just seem unhappy and if for no other reason than I hope it's just to not jinx it, I'm saying Valencia in second place. Oh my God. I just I don't like the trajectory where on. Yeah, we won a game, but like. It's just it's not. It's not looking good right now unless I just don't see as everyone continues to be around. Each other things improving marina is not the kind of guy who gets cheerier as the season goes on unless he's winning. He's the kind of guy who becomes just looks more and more like a homeless drunk who hasn't shaved in three months. You know, it's just like he, you know, he always looks so fresh and clean shaven on day one. And I feel like he's already, you know, wail passes five o'clock shadow, which is never a good sign. Why you're doing this because we needed, you know, I have me say they're gonna finish. Second is jinxing him, so we needed a counterbalance it. Yeah, I, I'm not just saying that for the sake of the for the for the sake of jank's. I really do Valencia have what it takes. I think about. I think about that as the matchup is that I think those are going to be crucial games, Manchester United against Valencia and his Manchester United going to be able to defend against players like Rodrigue. Oh, you know, like when Rodriguez got the ball at his feet and he's running at that Manchester United defense, and Phil Jones gets panic in his. I like what's going to happen. Get smoked absolutely smoked. And then you know you gotta just keep in mind who knows might very well come down to goal difference in which case the ten. In goals that juventas piles on aren't going to work in our favor. So. Happy days. How did this episode start glory, glory, knighted. Knighted. Bring the game days just just I need match day one. Well, it is tomorrow. We everything kicks off tomorrow. September eighteenth we got game September eighteenth, September nineteenth. We'll have episodes those very days. We'll have to eighteenth one of the nineteenth breaking down each day of games. Look for those few hours after after the games are over, we'll break it all down. We'll give are funny awards at the very least. I need some pulp Oba Hera wards in this in this Champions League, if he's not winning the hair best hair, then like really what has the world come to. Agreed. Agreed. All right. Well, anyway, that we have it. We got eight preview episodes in the books. There's literally nothing else except to play these games and get it all started. I can't wait read. I can't wait to break down some games with you. That's always joy, and I appreciate all hor work. You put into these group preview episodes. No-one sir. Brings the historical facts like you do. I try, I try. Absolutely. All right. That is. That is it's obviously tomorrow we're coming at you match day. 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Round of 16 Matchday 7 Recap

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Round of 16 Matchday 7 Recap

"Ah? What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I'm your host max Baril in this podcast devoted to the Champions League. Willie cats Baril I'm loving our Tuesday's together. Welcome back to the show. Like you. Thank you. This is trend tradition is how it has to be. I mean, you know, I hear the Champions League. In fact, picked Tuesdays as one of their game days just to suit your schedule. But see, they're they're very nice to me. I have to say. I know that you're you have all the back room connections. And I got a you got to get us tickets to the final in Madrid. I mean, what are you doing here? Just just chatting it up here where where where's the pulling the strings, sir? Well, I'm gonna tell you actually shave my head completely ball to be like, you know, the few presidency. That helps though I know this is, but still, you know, you never know. You know, it was just a mere week ago Willie that we sat together, and you told me what a visionary our friends in Edina done was how prophetic he was to leave Real Madrid. And not a week later. He's back in charge of Real Madrid. Have really this is off topic in the extreme because Real Madrid, of course, eliminated from the Champions League and therefore not of concern anymore, but it's Real Madrid. It's Don, what do you think about this return? I think it's brilliant. This guy is brilliant. She comes back. Now anything that? He does ride will be better than what has happened to Real Madrid. He comes at the lowest point of rail Madrid that I can remember, right? So anything that happens? Now can only improve he comes back. I am sure that he came back with all sorts of conditions is going to have an open checkbook he is going to have complete control. You know, he comes back at year later, he of voided the collapse. Heaves saw the collapse happening have to give him credit for that. And now he comes as a savior, he left a Saint. He comes back like a savior. You know, the guy is brilliant. Max brilliant. I admire him his timing is exquisite. Yes. I mean, he got a nice six month vacation in the process. You know, it got to relax a little bit. Like you. He looks good. You look, of course, he's looking great. Now, it's going to be very interesting as you say to see what kind of team he builds. But I don't know it's still a little risky game. I like your like very much your he left his a Saint and he comes back as a savior. But I am a more cynical believer in the dark Knight truth ISM that you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain, and I would hate to see the Don return only to make villain out of himself. But I think I think we're it'll be interesting to see what kind of team he builds over the summer. Realm of route is so on the ropes here. I think that the it's hard to see a lot of downside risk for sedan. And if anybody can turn him around this game, you know because all the credibility, his charisma in again, I'm sure he's getting a huge. I don't know if you saw it. I didn't much has been paid tried to find out. But I'm sure he's getting a huge amount of money to come back more importantly than ANC. He's going to have a lot of a lot of flexibility. Think is enjoy the job. He has no pressure now for what the next six months, basically. And as you said he has a lot of time to build a new team a here that hazardous coming to the rescue to right at hazard from Chelsea falsely coming in that would be a great. I so crew socials low on the cruise was so such a. Thank you know, except for his invested goal against Sweden in the world of I don't think he played very well in the World Cup. I don't think he has been playing very well for Real Madrid. So bring someone like hazard to to support and be aggressive in that middle feels gonna be terrific for for Real Madrid. I don't know. I think it's going to be exciting to see what's he then builds. I love the guy. And I wish him a lot of luck as you know, I'm not a great supporter rail Madrid. But I love see Dan nickel successful. Yeah. I think it'll be interesting as you say, it's almost the perfect perfectly removes the tension from the situation because you can't even imagine him having to go now for the fourth, you know, Champions League trophy in a row now all that pressure has gone re-sent as you say back to zero where you know after this horrific season. So it's a nice reset. For him and allows to kind of craft the team in his image. And it's gonna be very interesting to see. And I don't think we'll have to wait too long for him to be near the pinnacle yet again, but as I said, this is off topic conversation with a one more point to the off topic. Because you look really good you at me. Oh, okay. You know, I'm all said last week week ago on that there were two winners of that horrendous collapse a Real Madrid was that and the other one Cristiano Renaldo and later in your program today tonight, we will actually address Ronel Ronel both of them. Really look terrific right now. Yes for different reasons. But they both are I think the. Out of out of the transition that Real Madrid the two individuals that I think about looking very well wherever well agreed. Agreed. But as you say that conversation will have to wait just a mere moments. But first, we have Manchester City seven. French Shoka nil. What started off as a three two tot fixture and as a complete slaughter with a ten two two aggregate scoreline Sergio Guera opened the scoring in the thirty fifth minute with a penalty three minutes later. He doubled. It LeRoy sonnet scored in the forty second minute wrecking sterling in the fifty six Bernardo Silva in the seventy first fill phot- in the seventy eighth and Gabrielle ges. I mean, really just making it reading it in the worst possible way in the eighty four th minute. We always kind of questioned Schulkin in this tournament as being the weak link and going up against city. And then the first game it was close. This was I mean, Porsche elk. I mean, they're just they're just so out of their deaf in this Champions League this season even in the Bundesliga right now in fourteenth place. I mean, they they looked completely out of place. Like, they were just they. Showed up at the wrong stadium. What should have been, you know, a low level Bundesliga match. You know, once thing that surprised me was I had to actually look twice the scene the correctly the first time around they got fifty percent possession. They could the bowl fifty percent of the time which against Manchester City. It's amazing ride. Manchester City being the master of possession of having the ball at all times. They had the both fifty percent of the time and they manage one shot on goal. I mean that tells you how incredibly poor they are what they have absolutely no imagination. They actually started. I thought aggressively. You know, they stayed in the game as you said for thirty five minutes or so until a Wairoa score the penalty. But how can you have the bull for fifty percent of the time and manage one showed on goal as you say, a total lack of creativity. I mean, just no no idea really what to do with it. Once you haven't exactly. So I think you, and I also just to make sure that we look good when we are. Right. Doesn't happen. Very often. But we talked about this matchup being the most unbalanced of the whole. Run of sixteen turn out to be exactly that. I was it was shameful again. You know, I I it's difficult to watch. I have to tell you that to me the the match was LeRoy Sunday. What incredible? What an incredible game. He played. I'm looking what's obsolete? Fantastic. And the guy that has to go and just, you know, go to the Himalayas look at Google go for a little silence retreat for the next six months is the goalie Farman, I mean, it was so bad. He was such a terrible goal mean. You wonder if it was a bad night. I haven't really followed his career very well. He actually seemed to be fairly competent less less game against Manchester City, but this time of the seven goals. Five of them. I think were even than pleased up -able. Yeah. And it was really pretty. I mean, it's funny. You mentioned him. I, you know, I think as well he had a a few. I mean in the group stage. He was he seemed like a fairly competent goalie, and I don't follow the Bundesliga week to week to tell you how he's playing, but I do know that he was stripped of his captaincy by the fans, I think just less than a week ago or about a week ago. So they're clearly not happy with his captaining of the team and his and his you know, what he's putting forth between the sticks. As you say that was showed clearly tonight. I mean, he he looked like a man just completely devoid of confidence really had. I mean, just his reactions were so slow. I mean as you as you say these some of these shots were were particularly save -able. But and, you know, not to just pile on entirely on him. I mean his defenders playing this line and just completely unable to keep up. With the city attackers who were just running in behind them. Like, it was the easiest thing that ever done, and, you know, yes city have some particularly fast players, but you have to know that you know, you have to especially sonnet who used to place for shelter. So don't tell me don't know. He's fast. As you said Sunday was unbelievable. Sterling had a great game Aguayo. I'm just going to revive it right now back to the worst haircut award from our World Cup day. Terrible. I mean, it's like a medieval bowl cuts with the way, the the bleach just ends on in a perfect line. It's it's a disaster. But maybe it distracts the defenders with its ugliness. And he's able to sneak in. I mean monster suited was terrific. Right. I mean, the sterling is playing social, well, we're Nardo Silva is playing social well. I know that you really miss demented today. I'm sorry that he couldn't play because I know that you love him dearly. But you know, Walker LaPorte this in chanko was fantastic. You know, really, I thought Manchester depletes stream -ly, well, but there were held by terrible goalkeeping, and you know, to to shell his. Credit? They actually came out with a, you know, three defense trying to attack not knowing how to attack, you know, trying to set up a formation that was aggressive and to pay the price very nearly as you said that were completely over wellm by the speed of of sterling in the ROY there were just too fast for shell kit for sure it was it was it was it was just painful to watch as you say city were so good. But at the same time, you could also tell the shelter were so bad that it was like what you don't even really feel like it's too great teams. But one is just on a whole other stratosphere. You felt like this was just a beast of a team really beating up on a team that they shouldn't even be playing in the first place credit though to fill Foton. I mean, nineteen years old. His goal in the seventy eighth minute. I mean, the way he dribbles the goalkeeper. And then slots the ball home with such composure. I had to do a double take that. I was that was Phil Foton. I mean that wasn't you know, Aguayo or or you know, sonnet or one of these other sterling even I mean, this is nineteen year old kid and the way he just ran onto that ball and his move. So composed. What a what a finish finish. But it also helps there were already five zero head. Yes, sure. Sure off nothing to to take away from from fold in the think he is really coming. I think you'll like has on the terrific job within his maturing. He he word Yuli splaying him carefully has really giving him progressively, more and more responsibility. He is really an exciting player. I mean is definitely a future star. Agreed. I mean, I don't know how much more to say on this. There is other than you know, on the one hand, I think city are fortunate to have a comparatively easy tie. They're not going to be too exhausted. There obviously battling on a lot of fronts. But at the same time, you know, as we see so often when you get those kind of easy rounds, and you're able to take advantage of it. It doesn't it can play mind games with you where you think you're maybe a little superior than you are. I think Gordie L is such an experience coach that hopefully he'll keep his team in check. But it's gonna be exciting to see city because they didn't have the most challenging group either. And they've always they always seem to have one of those games like the first game again shelter that one of those kind of three to come from behind games. And I don't know how much leeway there's going to be going forward when they're all the teams. I think in the quarterfinal are really going to be a step above this. It's going to be a. Game for city. What I think the advantage for city was the plea Schulkin. I don't think it's going to help him at all you might be right might even Kurd them in the next stage. The quarterfinals is going to help them a law a lot in the Premier League playing such an easy game. When they're fighting obviously for the leadership of the league. You know, Liverpool has a tough tough game. Tomorrow super tough at Byron in Munich is gonna be you know, they're going to have to put everything on the line. Manchester City had a morale-booster here scoring seven goals playing so fluidly I think that this game is not going to help much in the Champions League moving forward. But it's really going to help them the law next weekend. And as a look at the last eight games of the season. It was a it was a gift to them when you compare the two German teams playing this to English teams Rochelle kit, Manchester, Byron lever pool Lieber, pull the much much tougher assignment. I think you know, who knows what's going to happen tomorrow in Munich. But the thing Liverpool is going to be much more stress entire next weekend than Manchester. Yeah. I think that's a great point as well. Any final thoughts before we move on to Juventus, and it let's go Madrid Manchester CD, and you know, that I'm a little bit bias is a number legal team. The brunette was not even on not on the field. But not even on the bench. I mean, the depth of this team. Max is scary. Indeed, it is it's a it's a fantastic team at noon. I don't know who's going to win the Champions League at who's gonna win the Premier League. But it. It is it is a beautiful thing to watch them play. Right. Yeah. Unfortunately, you may be correct. Or? Beautiful Juventus Athletico Madrid. They have a term for this kind of a game. Do you know what it is? It's cold Manchester uniting the situation. Okay. Why? Comebacks baby. I mean, you know, it's just one of four. I mean, it's unbelievable. What's happening right now. Porto came back Ajax can back Manchester United came back and now vented four out of the eight matchups. They actually were one on the return leg of her being down. It's really impressive. They're very impressive. I mean, I think we're all caught a little off guard. Let's not discredit let's go Madrid. But you know, we're a little off by that twos. Neil start for for them. But you know, who else could have overturned it other than CR seven himself with the hat trick goals in the twenty seventh minutes, the forty nine th minute. And then an eighty six minute penalty sealed it for Juventus with the three two aggregate at home a fantastic comeback. And this. I mean, I love this game. Because this is almost like what I'm talking about with what city and shell co weren't where you really felt like these were two fantastic teams. But one team really had the advantage. And I'm very interested to hear what your thoughts are on this game. I have a lot of them. But to me, I think let's go Madrid made a big mistake in coming out as defensive as they did when they clearly were had Juventus riled up when they played at home being much more aggressive. But to me when Christie I mean Juventus scored they thought they almost scored earlier event Cristiano Renaldo called for fowl. But as soon as Juventus got that first goal. I mean, it really felt almost inevitable. There was a touch of inevitability to this game that you just felt like Juventus are rolling. And it was thrilling to watch even though it ends up in a lopsided score. What did you think? I mean, it was I I was exhausted. After the end of the match was really high tension. I was rooting for it led to Madrid. I am very surprised. You know, see me only is such an experienced coach. I don't understand the team that he deployed the strategy that Hughes. You're absolutely right. I mean, they came basically just like defeated already. I saw them flat. His so the nervous at the back. You know, the Cup some of the most experience I mean goal Dene was one friend. You know, the the you have a fantastic fantastic settled of players. Why don't you let them play? They seem to be. I don't know constrain into a game plan that was to absorb in a was like sort of rope adult kinda FANG right mean? They they were waiting for Juventus to calm and pound and pound and pound them. And they thought they were going to be able to absorb the punishment than end up maybe zero zero one zero. I don't know. You know it. It's very dangerous strategy playing Juventus out of home. I I was this appointed with the strategy as you said that the game into with with such defensive. Mentality. Do you know what caused that didn't play was he actually on cards or something? He he was suspended for this one Hispanic. Yeah. I think they missed him tremendously. Maradas good player, but he's not Acosta and. I think they missed that. But the fire that he brings to the team. You know, we've said it so many times on your podcasts sucker is a game of of of missed opportunities of millimeters. Right. When you think of the gold that cost stat missed on on when they're playing in Madrid the the shot that could yes-men actually hit against the the post in a all those oppportunities that they missed in in Madrid game to hunt them here. I don't understand Mexico team like a clinical knowing that they could actually play the final in their own stadium comes out. So flat. I was release reprise, you know. Their accounts attacking team. We know that they like to play the day they tried to play that. But did you see how many passing missed? I mean, I never seen them so nervous coming out of their own zone. I don't know. I was surprised he'll prepare the they seem you know. Very unseen meal. New like, I don't know. I was appointed all around, but you know, kudos to to prevent us. I think they play from as you said from, you know, the third fourth minute there were all over all over politico. Again in Cristiano Renaldo. You cannot really argue is he's a leader. He is really truly a leader. You can see what he he did tonight. It was amazing and much moderate didn't do without him right than I think that's really the sign of of great players is not only how they improve a team. But how much the team that they leave suffers without them. And Cristiano Ronaldo is a fantastic player. Even now over thirty instill a Madge changer. You know game change I hear I hear Juventus are willing to sell them back to Real Madrid for two hundred million. I think I mean as we've said, it seemed like such a tactical miscalculation part of it. Let's go Madrid to come out and say that against a team like Juventus that you're just gonna defend for ninety minutes and be okay. That's I mean, you're inviting disaster first of all second of all. I mean, even when you're on the if you're absorbing pressure for that long. I mean, I understand the rope a dope. But it was all rope and no dope. And I mean, you they just you lose that. There's so much pressure on that moment when you think you have a moment to counter as you said, I think it's partly let's go Madrid as soon as they had opportunity at the ball. They got so nervous and excited about it that they they misplaced the ball. But credited Juventus who these players were sprinting everywhere every challenge every pass intercepting the ball. I mean, it was really something to behold, but you can't help think back to that. Legged game where let's go Madrid, especially knowing the Ventas have to chase the game to say, let's pressure. Let's put some pressure up them high when they're actually really quite desperate to hold onto the ball. And I think they really could have you know, that pressure could have really manifest itself against Juventus. But they didn't do it that didn't happen and Juventus as we're saying to their credit looked absolutely fantastic Cristiano Renaldo. I mean, we're such a long afar cry from the days when if a game really wasn't going his way immediately. He would shrink into pouting and flopping around. I mean, he's really become a very strong leader as you say and his all three of his goals were absolutely fantastic. No-one heads the ball like him. I mean, you see him jump and he's easily foot and a half a higher than the defender. Who's guarding him every time? I mean, it's unbelievable. And this was out and this is with them chasing the game without even Deborrah starting because he came off the bench. And I mean, they were just pressuring it nonstop. And as I say, I don't know the first goal. Yeah. You're still chasing it that second goal by the time. They got that second goal. It felt like a formality of just when are they going to get the third one? And you never really had that feeling of threat that it let's go Madrid. We're going to get a goal which would have been a huge complicating factor. If they did that really would have pushed vented needing four goals. And you know, I I understand you're you're overwhelmed. Your your it's the situation you're frustrated in part the in that build up to that penalty in the eighty six minute, which Cristiano converted beautifully. But for Bernadette sqi. I mean, a great clever little in and out run. But what is unhealthy Correa doing like, first of all, you're not a defender. And then to just run in behind an all you do is push the guy in the back. I mean, you know, what situation you're in. That seemed like such a mental lapse there were truly fenders in frontal burner desk, exactly fell you I think we're gonna desk you was the player of the match. I mean Cristiano Renaldo scored three goals. So it's absurd that I suggest that someone else was the man of the match but burn the desk. First of all his crosses were so perfect. Yeah. For Renaldo suit to mellow. Togethers are incredible. His majestic as semi just. I mean, the way he actually raises above everybody is quite impressive. But Bernadette ski was constantly constantly creating trouble. He ran I don't know how many miles today, and he was constantly putting the defensive under a load of fresher. He he was really playing with so much heart. Amazing. You know, I felt that he was really the the one player that the political Coon actually solve their right? He he really did a tremendous job. Again. You know, Juventus is. Of incredible team. I mean, they're still deep also they have so much style. And but they went up against history human, you know, all everything was pointing to a clinical coming back to. To Madrid ready to go onto the next stage. You know, juvie hit usually loses against Spanish teams athletic. Usually wins gets valiant teams, you know lead. The court has not a Scott seven or eight clean sheets in the last couple of months. I mean, you know, and they came out as if there were young inexperienced players. It's amazing. It was exactly the opposite of what happened in Real Madrid. Ajax, you know, over there, the young players came out playing like if they were experience, you know, old tooth guy of players and a political Madrid came out looking like if there were young inexperienced nervous players. I it was very surprising to me. Because of what I consider one of the best coaches in the business, and I thought they were badly coach the pan that the plan for the for for the game was bad and the pig the price really surprising. You know, you and I talked about a politically Madrid being like annoy Stor so hard to to open so hard to carve they were really very very weak and Luke very nervous on defense. It's you know to enter think that you know, he that's let's come did. So little to change the plan because as you say even from the beginning, it's not that they tired. I mean, they looked vulnerable even though everyone was defending. But from the beginning. I mean, they looked vulnerable Juventus were carving themselves in and around, you know, Cristiano Renaldo thought, you know, he had set up a goal for Kia Leany early on not didn't work out. But. You know, they it was they looked so vulnerable to say like, okay. Maybe we need to change it up. I mean, the midfield. Did absolutely nothing for let's go Madrid. And as you say it surprising because you Simoni isn't the type of coach typically speaking just looks to be to come up with completely the wrong game plan. And when he came up with such a correct game plan in the first game. It's like it's looked like he was ready to just cash out his chips and say, okay, you know, but like you got to stick with it stick with your plan. You found a recipe for success and not don't turn away from it now. But too late I want to. I mean, I'm curious your thoughts on this. Juventus left-back was was out on suspension. So you have this young guy. Spinach Sola on who is essentially playing as a winger. I may not even as a left back and early on when it was still zero zero. I was like this kid is either going to unlock everything for let's go Madrid. Or he's gonna be the reason that it let's go Madrid counter and skits and score on Juventus because he was pulling these like he's trying to dribble past all these players, and he got caught out on a few occasions. And I was like, oh, boy he's really gonna lead to a counterattack. But in the end of the day, he stuck with his his motive operation, and he I mean, he was very dangerous out on that left wing. And some also some very good crosses credit to him. But I was a little nervous with him for a while. I agree. I mean, you know, his super young I think he started playing for Juventus only a couple of months ago on his and this was his first champions game. Yeah. The. Took a little bit of of a risk with him. And he I I agree with you. I think that the three standout players in may force than the players for for juventas was I think been there Detsky, and obviously Cristiano Renaldo, you know, throughout can sell. It was also very very good. He really play the flawed a very good game. And. Zola? I mean, you know, this this is a young man that I I don't know if it's going to have another game as good as this one on a time soon, but he was definitely very influential in the results he played like he wanted to prove something, you know. And where was that led to go? Again, you know, when do you remember gristmill in the in in the game? And he was there for ninety minutes. What did I mean? You know, like one of the best players, right? One of the best players in the World Cup. When of the best players in Spain. You know, it it. It was very disappointing. I'm going to tell you the league is not looking very good. It's you know, we'll see what happens tomorrow of your sleep. But we know that there's at least three English teams in the last eight. And if Barcelona actually beats Leong they will be the only Spanish team in the quarterfinals in in that hasn't happened MAG. So I don't know maybe eight years as the great point. There's only one Spanish team in the last eight that's a great point early right on the league is not as competitive as we think it is always think of it as. The league and the Premier League being the two tub leagues in in Europe in the world, but they're not doing very willing Europe this year. No, it's good to. I mean, it's good to shake things up, obviously. But yeah, you know, you're on the top for so long, and you you can get complacent, and you're not necessarily pushing those same way also credited merely pianist I mean, he was sick in the first game. And he insisted on playing I think that may have been a mistake. I think he's a little bit of liability in that first game. But he was pulling the strings today. Also, so well and him and Bonnici I mean their ability to kind of stand in the middle of the field and just pinpoint these passes out to each of the wings. I mean, it's like it's unbelievable to watch. But I mean to this was a game to me not to say that I'm thinking Juventus are they've they have this in the bag. But like this is the type of game where champions are made because at lead Tacoma's rid or a team with that. A finals caliber level team. And they didn't play like today. But part of that was Juventus took it to them and made them nervous from minute one. And that takes doing and Juventus I have to feel very good about themselves. Hopefully that to nil loss in the first leg is also a little bit of a wakeup call that they need to be aware of the situation. But I was very impressed with Juventus. I mean, you know, obviously with Rinaldo going there over the summer, they kind of became a, you know, a front runner, but I think they prove that worth today. And we'll I'm excited to see where where they all go. I mean, I'm very excited for the last eight because I think at this point every team in the quarter-finals is going to be an exciting team, except the even if they managed to get past Barcelona leones credit, I think one of the most exciting teams because they might score four goals and let in five or three you never know. It's going to be goals everywhere with those guys. If a bar Salonga goes through, right? I mean, buying Lieber pool is going to be a war. Any of those two teams are definitely worth the the last eighteen Europe. You know, the only week there is going to be poured too. So the last date they're going to be super super exciting. Whoever gets port of a gonna be lucky. I agree with you in the sense compared to the others. But I mean, you know, restaurant, you know, look down at Porto at your own peril. Del there couple Mexican players are making very proud. But I'm gonna tell you it's Manchester City. I mean, I don't want to hurt your feelings. I don't want to really offend my host. You know, it's not really good foreign I'll cut you out of the pot. Weakest steam as Magister United might you. That's probably fair. You like to comment on that? No comment. All I'd like to say is that stoppage-time is currently in the market for a new Tuesday host. And you know, we'll be. If really if are truly being in the model of one of these great soccer teams, I would say, no, no, we we have the utmost faith in Willie cats Barilla's a co host. We're standing by hymns. Only two tomorrow. That's right renews available. Marina, I am Marino to PS G. Right. Let's talk about that. Because the Dan is now taking Real Madrid off the map. What is Tina thinking right now because his wasn't his whole spring just going to be playing around Madrid and Manchester United against each other. And now Real Madrid have a new coach and Manchester United most likely are going to keep sole Shire. So what does chino do the play the new stadium for one more year? Maybe look I would of. Really? I am not in the position signing coaches. But I would not touch marina with a ten foot pole. If I was PS g because you you had a good prediction new, you mentioned that most likely marine. You will be actually a. Higher than it would make sense just because they're so desperate to make it through the Champions League final. But put your teen on my go over there. And if I had to choose between the two between Marino who I think is a coach of ten years ago or Tina who for in. My view is one of the top five coaches in the world today. I would go with a recedo. Oh, absolutely. So would I it really comes down to how much of a forward thinking. You know, there's the leadership at PS g but you know, I could easily see them in the world we live in where they say how many trophies has punch Tina one and how many champions leagues have you know, has marina one. I agree. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole either. But at the same time, I just I don't know. I could see it happening. And here's the flipside. And maybe I'm crazy. This is my be insane. But I could kind. Kind of see a world where Marino goes to PS G and Paci TI no is left in such a tricky position that he somehow gets tempted, and this is like a contentious thing, and he might never do it in a million years. And I apologize on his good name that he for even suggesting it. But I think I could see him getting lured by a big big paycheck to Chelsea. Oh, that's interesting. I don't think. Sorry, staying at Chelsea. And and it depends. It really depends where Pocchettino stands at at at Tottenham. Does he feel the team is going to invest this summer and really push him to the next level? Because if he feels like they're just going to bring in a few kind of bench players, but really he's looking at the same squad. Again, I just don't know if he's got the got it in him to do it. One more time just to come in third place again. What you think of him going to train the national Argentina team? I think for a player like a coach like him in his prime that the international game at this point. And especially four years out for three years out from the next World Cup is is to is to off the map. I think you know, right now, he's in the Premier League all the focus is on him. And you get forgotten about a little bit until there's a big tournament there. So I don't see that happening. You know, it's going back to the topic of the last eight hit is really. Truly a fantastic settled eight right now, and we'll see who then goes onto the last four, but. It is. You you underway. Take so long to come to this last aid. But I have to say that there's some Justice here. We really have some very verse Frong quarterfinals coming up. It's going to be very exciting. And we'll see maybe we'll have a whole new slew of amazing comebacks to watch. I don't you know, I haven't checked but four turnarounds like this for eight is pretty unusual, right? And that shows you just how important that second game supposed to be right that you hosting at home. The second game supposedly gives you this tremendous advantage. And. You know, it certainly work in juventas favored not so much in Real Madrid's favor. But PS, geez. GM? I'm I'm stunned by what happened there too. You know, this penalties in in extra time as you said Korea, eighty six minutes. I mean, come on your four minutes from going into extra times than possibly forcing Ventas into penalties. Because the only way that a political was going to go clearly gang if they were going to win the game. It was going to be on penalty shots. And at the eighty six minutes trips to push someone like Herrera did is it's Diatta. At least with PSE was a was a hand bowl. But still, you know, it's it's it shouldn't happen. You're playing in extra time, and you shoot up much more discipline that that I mean in in stoppage time, you should be. Thank you the supplement that, but do know this is why we love soccer, right fashion is emotion. And you never know who's going to windows darn games or good luck continued since the world company we were treated to a relief fantastic World Cup. And and we're getting all sorts of late goals yet again in the Champions League. And it's you know, a political. I have to tell you that there weren't spectacular games. Which is the of all again, you've watch which has been the most fun to watch in terms of football qualities. That's an interesting question. Obviously, I was so emotionally invested in that Manchester United weed, but I wouldn't pick that game in terms of actual quality. You know to match us really had three opportunities based on three mistakes in. I mean, I gotta say we've had you know, some lopsided games and in terms of a lopsided game. I was so impressed with that. I x win this this against Real Madrid. That that really kind of takes the cake for me. I think I think tomorrow buyer Munich against Liverpool as you said is going to be a war, and I'm very excited for that. Could be the match of the. Of this stage. Certainly both teams want to win souls so badly, and you know, leave her police coming limping little bit into this game. I think confidence was Byron on the other hand, you know, has been crushing last, you know, the cut dorm, and there were like seven or I think nine points at one point behind Dortmund, and they have actually caught them and passed them in gold difference now and they've been you know, scoring four and six and three goals keeping clean sheets. I've they're coming into this game feeling very strong and in the excellent excellent form. I I don't know. I have a a a favorite for tomorrow. I I mean, I'm standing by. My prediction that that? Byron eunuch are going to take it and I wasn't expecting them to be as ramp. Int- as they are as you say what a what a comeback in the German league Dortmund after their exit and now being pushed into second place have really got to be questioning themselves. But no, I'm sticking with it. But I I mean it's anybody's game. Both teams obviously more than capable and Liverpool. It's like, you know from one game to the next there in a mentality crisis. And then they're flying high. You know, they score five goals. But then they, you know, then they'll have a nil nil draw in the Champions League. And it's like there are a little all over the place, and they're capable of anything. I think the experience of buyer Munich is what carries the day. Well, it's certainly a game that it'll be wishful thinking lower tell you. It's a game. That has like if you think has we have mentioned in your program several times who are the hundred fifty best players in the world lever. Bill by Aaron, you know, I think all twenty two they will be on the pitch are part of that hundred fifty best players in the world should be a a fantastic -ly. Interesting game to watch. Sadly, Willie you won't be here to talk about it tomorrow. But I'll be listening you'll be back in the quarter-finals and we're excited for it. Thank you. But we haven't. I mean, I know that we're running out of time. But I wanted to comment on the best goal of the day of the day and best Philip ration- of the day. All right. All right. Let's start. Why don't we start off goal and goal where do you? What's your first goal of the day while I think the most meaningful goal of today was Ronel those I gather I think that that was a game changer really was. Fun tastic positioning over now though, I was spectacular. Heather I thought it was really really meaningful. There were some pretty goals that Manchester score but nothing with with with the region. The anger the desire that first goal over. Now does. There's no question. There's absolutely no question. He I mean, he was the inspiration for that team. He fought for that header my goal of the day. However goes to our old friend Raheem sterling on that on that cross ball. I mean, you know, pains me to do it to give it city goal day. But you know, the way he blasted it into the top corner was really really I mean first time very special goal. Very impressive. She should Bolic's full stri-. He was Riley. Yeah. To really get the. But if I had to really choose a play from Rahim was that back. He'll thank you. Yes. Where? Lies that was gorgeous. I mean, what a what the confidence of that backheel, and then the execution amazing fantastic. But the goal so the goals are of our good goals. Save on the day. Tell me the one that wasn't the old block save that. Yes. Yes. Technology's amazing. That would have never counted a year ago without that technology that goal line thing -nology. I mean, it happened so fast that I don't call that a goal and he flew. I mean, it looked like a spectacular super fine. Goalkeeping saving you think? So I mean the way he flew for that ball in actually seem to actually reach it and get it out of it was was spectacular. You're absolutely right. I uh. What else do you give it to? You're not giving it to farm in. Edison, didn't do anything. She sheds need in do anything. So you got to pick old block almost sating? But as you say credit to goal line technology because you know, the naked is never gonna catch that in million million was a beautiful save. I mean, you know, fortunately with like half a ball inside. But the he really he flew. I mean, he was so high over the grand. Yeah, spectacular. Now. I'm very curious what your celebration of the day is willing. Well, I'm gonna tell you. It's also what was. So I was so impressed with Ronel look keeping his shirt. Eighty minutes. And Secondly what I really like was the no celebration when his core the first goal in oak. You said we're still behind where still haven't done the job. This goal is doesn't counts, but it's not decisive. And you know, I really like for once that he didn't show the arrogance of he usually showed. And I thought that that he's attitude after scoring in how he turned to the crowd and said come on star screaming star supporting us and didn't do any celebration was very very telling very very telling. And I liked that a leg that site on leg. Much of what he does celebrating wise. But I appreciate how he he really tried to rouse the team right, by the way that he become the. Bowl inches ran bag to to midfield. And and even further his only really ignorant of anything was to the past to the to the assist of. And as you would probably admit Cristiano Renaldo seems to in his own head. He both assists and scores. His own goals. Often crediting the person who passes in the ball. And as you say he immediately started sprinting back to the halfway line. But gave gave a little a little appreciation for the past as well. So that was impressive. I'm also going to go with Cristiano Renaldo, but I'm gonna get a little interpretive with it. I think he his version of a celebration today a little bit of that own Aldo extravagance came with the ball at his feet on the wing when it was two two and he did his little trademark Cristiano step overstep overstep over back. And then he just he ended up passing it away. But. You know, when you get a little get to see a little of that twinkle toe Cristiano Renaldo footwork. It always gets my heart pumping. Yeah. Here's good, man. You know, I have to tell you. I've come to to appreciate his leadership qualities in cow. He really makes the teams that he plays with believe they can win. You know, he did it with Portugal with the national team of Portugal. He certainly would Real Madrid in. Oh, I think that would you vent this. That they feel that they're going to win that if they give the ball to Renaldo his going to do something with it. Then. You know, it's it's amazing. I mean, I think Messi in my view is is the better player, but I have to say that the wave that remanded actually changes the complexion of the game is impressive. He's thirty four and doing what he's doing. It's really quite astounding. I mean to thirty four year old is doing some of these jumping to the extent he's jumping. And I mean, all of it. It's he can't help. But be impressed. Even a, you know, a little bit of a Cristiano hater like yourself can't help. But the impressed. That's all it really has to say. There you go. I can is appointed a lot of people by not taking his shirt off. You gotta wait for the final for those apps, baby. And Juventus is has to be a odds-on favourite to make it to the finals. I I mean, you would think not just their siege. Avensis? Nice. Very nice. Very very nice. We should all be so lucky. I think that you know, you should actually send me as your official but gas credential reporter live from the drid not. I mean, not just saying it's gestion. I'm gonna talk to set bladder about it. He still has the ins and outs. I think he he still has some money put away someplace really fit from tickets. Really, I'll fly I've flagged coach, I'm okay with coach. Okay. I mean, that's that's helpful. He appreciates the you're a little bit frugal. All right. It was a very good day. Max, I'm so glad that this Tuesday's with witness. Some very good sucker Willie as always a pleasure talking with you. And and I'm excited for the quarter-finals. Yes, please. I love to do it. Yes. Well, we will certainly do it. And, but, you know, take care of yourself until then, you know, don't get an enjoy. Tomorrow's games. Yes. Let's all watch. It's gonna be a a fantastic game. All right, talk to you. Of course. We'll be back tomorrow covering the last day of games. 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Serie Awesome: Juventus Let Inter Off the Hook

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Serie Awesome: Juventus Let Inter Off the Hook

"It's the city awesome podcast and I mean Kozinski Butts we have a change of scenery change of people. It change of scenery. But we do. Stuart talks in with us today. We've got nicky. Vandini is what's wrong with scenery. What's wrong with a two hundred degrees? The we thought Lyndon who's cold on CODA jump this year. They always how you're managing you. Just let me know when it's become a little bit too much What is becoming a little bit too much to hand is the state at least for you like me if I had any money? And he didn't with them to bring a bag and I know that sounds so ridiculous to an event is still married to Saudi because he is of course what's a tremendous coach and that hasn't been that long in one can only hope that he will get better. But as far as I can see from that lobster Napoli and it's important that we discuss discussed this because Nikki like you're saying they went into this match with the possibility of going six points clear because obviously in Hedren earlier lots you had drawn. Yes so this taunts to create a gap of the people and you will commentating on this much and they go into it. And they're playing the Triton and you think yeah this is going to be all that attack and tactically good Tuesday right I think he'd had although the things that he needs to do to cage them in and and did with the foster off there was no shots on goal. No corners for you've enters. This is a team that has now conceded. Twenty one goals well this time. They had conceded twelve when everyone was so unhappy with lady apparently was such a dull team. I do not see a team. That is more fun to watch at the moment. I see a team. That is confused tactically I do understand that. Yes he wants them to not drop deep but my worry is that he doesn't have annual sorry team that dressing because if he keeps keep saying no I want you to keep going in looking for the goal I want you to keep pressing high. And no one seems to be listening to him and hasn't been wall now. Why is listening to him? A second I think is awfully weird. We it just telling him to calm down and I'm thinking you all the manager. Well when they're not cheap. Though he would presumed as lean back to Mexico agree he missed. The Champions League Games club came back later. And you're right on Nash definitely I think that this was. I mean it's like you still said this before we came on but I think that probably all of us have the same feeling watching failed to win often. You thought this is it this event Disappear off as they have every Caesar's before let's Yo Johny drawn with Roman so you just even just we're GONNA go win. The game against the Napoli saw at the was struggling about from that win against. Let's see oh in the copper. Then you just saw the events are gone when it quite comfortably fell potato vivid because not getting sent off in the end felt the team that new so it gets even you. It's going to miss the seasons going combs reaction when he also head down and and and we saw the teams put the foot on the neck. That's what they do. The selection plane in behind renown Donnegan. So we thought they were going to be attacking and make sure they would dominate the game. But as you said Casseus actually got his tactics for. I didn't think that was the case in the first fifteen minutes because he allowed you vent issues to have all the ball. I'm thinking Napoli at home. They're not pressing high. Then make a fan of an event is to control the game but in the country I think it was about fifty minutes before ingrain touchable because they couldn't get the ball into the front. Su there was no space for the ballot to work in so he had to start drifting out wide but they continued to try and go through the middle and it was obvious to me that the area that they should have been going out was getting wide and get crossings because that's what they did in the last five minutes when they were desperate but to get back into the game. So why didn't they change their tactics much earlier. Get the board into their fullbacks Corrado. Getting down one side Alexandra. Getting down the other get crosses into the box because it doesn't matter how many plans in that space in and around with Bala wants to play if across comes into the box you fancy renowned off against Mary are- on on one side and the right back on the other neither more big players that had to be the thought that Sorry would eventually. But he didn't absolutely I mean in yes I think you you've You've touched on. Exactly what did they pack the middle of the pitch make it very competitive of the pitch swamp thing and allow no room to play football in that area it was not for a home game and I'm vicious approached from nothing he was a entrenching. Wouldn't happy for that after twenty five minutes then then was about the context of this game because you have not one but two of the perceived great trainers to Naples. Hey you have dwayne who's already been back before but Who is still not forgiven for making that move anticipate and now you have money? You're sorry even though it was via Chelsea is not forgiven for making that move and it was almost who are they booing loudly before the game because it was both of them and and when he finally did it on the bull you could feel the tension I mean the booze raining down upon him but the fear that he might do it as he has already since leaving the club to beat them up the guy who who thinks them but to an extent You know this was exactly what nappy needed to draw the staying clean. They basically. It wasn't fun game to water. I mean especially that I was poor. Qualify you there was no but when we the highlights a half time despite are signing the country had all the bowl they've been dominant side Napoli. If defending ended that little bit deeper chances for Juventus Napoli had three a corner early on when I think the Senate off you scored early on and it just script on the shoulder absolutely. I think that what it is with with me when I look at it. I know that guy chooses made some mistakes. I know that he hasn't been amazing while he's been putting for this. Yeah he hasn't but I do think that he was trying to create something that is perhaps coming to fruition. Now which is these trying to recapture some of his old story. aureus from New Orleans and I thought who made a tremendous performance including tracking back To help out defensively I thought what you saw was a solid midfield. Yeah I thought that Zillions. He seemed to be happy and being a midfielder again and being given a chance to have a license to do something other than just you know covering and basically I just paid it while in the sense of let sacrifice this is Ubuntu. We're not going to try to pay them because clearly. Not An agreement. So let's be smart about this. Let's has tried to cage them. Let's make sure that they have no spaces to pay into that. They have absolutely no Any ground for the forwards to have fun with and that is really what is and what I would have hoped you've into soft to all this time on the Saudis to east to move the ball. That'll be clear headed problem events in the second half and you mentioned engine it. When we were off air pianist Wynton big policy? The one that might pitiful would parcel went off and Benson could back into that into that Hodie. Odero had lots of time on the ball but wasn't gonNA pass it. Forward was gonNA Policy Square policy backwards impulsive sideways and not really any penetrating. I think that was the point of what she saw as well Napoli Napoli once that threat of panicked was gone actually did start try and play live more expensive machines and of course there's lots maybe it's the timing the match. Maybe you'll game plan has been. Let's keep it tight for sixty minutes. Let me look for opportunity. But they did coinciding with panic. Leaving the pitch you started to see something from nothing again you've you've nailed it meaner. It was Lorenzo senior who has been dreadful for the season. He's been really bad but this was his shot the spills for the first goal. He was his goal all the minute. And then we'd say needed And I do not personally share your optimism over the long term. I think that this is going to get him to the end the season. He's in hockey. I know it's not like they're gonNA get He got it right here. And if he can get a little bit Nepalese he's getting the best out of one or two of the blades but there's some of the better players in like Played really poorly looked short on confidence. You know and there's a player that was running games of the start of the season. He looked to be the key. Midfield platform talks in the club. I'm not blaming him. Either I I just don't think that this idea that he was going to solve the problems that he couldn't is Israeli. Say I want to mention one thing on Tuesday fussy. This was a game that had no clue body that had mentioned the had. No Anna Sophie you to manage comprehensive whenever you spent his without those three for me is huge. You know it is with a new starter is a new a new poll. That's coming in January and domain in the middle I do think I mean he's very clever self because we were sending him mm off because listen recognized it going off. I think why it became known. Easiest Zia if I'm honest is because Kennedy's your Great Direction. He does do a lot. Defensively I don't think he's as good as I would like him to be if I'm only but him going off meant that Ben Tune quarter over that direction role which meant that. We lost his physicality his tackling he is a Uruguayan Benton call and that's always a fiery and horrible the prospect to face in midfield. Because you know that they can really really put an tackle you take him away from that tackling ability and you put in radio who is in that man because because you're absolutely right Benson. You're a mess. We have massive jobs in the midfield because they play in the shape of the Alberdi Bala planning behind front to every time the boss switch those two wide white midfield players have to go out and confront the fullback or stay midfield or drop would be deeper and want spending co went back into the hole in midfield row and raby come on the right hand side. Suddenly Marie was flying for whatever. It's on the bullets and suddenly looks good attacking play and so it was Who Soya on? The other side started to get forward more so that was a major. Did you change your boy. In the guy all of a sudden it felt like it was a luxury to have dryden fund and that you needed more of of sort of the forwards that hot watch harder for the team. Because then you're like can we video forward with this midfield to have three or four minutes. They were to isolate. I want to ask you as you've been to span because I've seen Saudi Saudi touching. I mean like technically. I think there's plenty of heat from together. But he's also been catching heat from you then to spans fullest and things he said after the game One of which was him sort of saying in a way that I found just totally Not Worth about but did 'cause around to US saying look if I was going to lose twenty anybody. I'm glad it was because I still have personal relationships here in these people and found off and I am glad to see them. Doing better in the crowd was even Komo. Even if I wished they'd started next week to me that's bland. This is the real personal relationships but a certain section events families didn't like back and section also didn't like and this was a bit more provocative but I thought was classic Monday through Saturday. He lost about penalties even have no specific incident. Specific sort of concept defense haven't had as many penalties teams this season. He said while we've had six given up six we spend a lot more time in our opponents areas you'd think it would look different about and And then the the the line he gave us maybe we need to go back to having the stripes on the shirt. which is you know? Kind of hawking back to the idea of when he wasn't even send to get a penalty need to have stripes on your shirt. So little bit provocative very satisfied. I mean said innocent of off the cuff Junkie Mukisa way but when we talked about the beginning is sorry a Advantis guy like is he always said the right things in press conferences. Like the alive. I sorry Cillizza as well. This is actually interesting about this. I think it's funny thing was on. It's like he is going to have ties. Caponi he is GonNa if he has to these going to be the one that you want to lose to write Tuscan but he was. He was always. He's always been cure about that only looney that this was the best experience of his career and his life and everything. He's Never GonNa Forget that experience. He Mari Forget Chelsea. He probably will forget you Ben just if this carries on but there's the Champions League but I thought it was interesting my issue with Saudi. The is that I don't mind. I don't mind Saudi if if it was not forty Saudi being that but I this moment in time what you know what. I don't understand. This lately was invented coach before he was anything else. I mean you just see. He was the right mold he just never provoked. He never put the funds with what he does with the with the first they were glad that you nedved was was praying for Saudi company society. Light I know that he still these jokes. He's still refers to himself in these really funny ways. He's lost about developing angry with him. He's like I don't give a an you know and the horrible was off to that but what I what is that I feel like festive. He's dressing a certain way to appease appease them. I know that you have such an way of behaving that. They think is very important and he is trying to behave like that. I feel like he's trying to toe the line between pragmatic and thanks for calling his tactics so at this moment he just looks confused because I would a. He's team event. Play nowhere near as attractive all with the same ideas that he had when he was at Netflix and to a certain degree. Josie Jody Sposato. Because it was too slow but you knew what was coming. You knew that a pattern of play. When I'm watching the events this season yes? They've won most games. That's off the table. So they're not that bad spots but I can't see the patterns of play it looks as renowned a heat Wayne and develop doing little bit. They wanted to the other day. There was no shape to what they were trying to do. And even when he made the substitution. I couldn't tell you what Benedetti was on Douglas. Cost to was actually not meant to be where he's meant to be but he came out on the right hand side but rebbe was already half out there anyway so I couldn't quite understand where he was coming from and that's what I'm worried about with sorry. It's not doing the things he really wants to do. Two point either you invest in Saudi. Who Sat is and you accept the whole package and you die and live by his sword and potentially news but at least have the game being played in the way that said that they all want to cheat because it was so dulled apparently on the results do not because hey listen? I suppose eventually Boston and also any of these teams play football. I supported team that gets results so since we all still results based League an club this little cats. It's about winning everything. Then perhaps you know you might have to do with some boring coaches So you have to decide what you want but I think bringing in Saudi and trying to dilute you too. He is and it looks like no one's really listening to him in the sense that tried and like you said doing what they want. The midfield is all over the place. The defense is conceding goals that this would never have happened opened on the BBC. Let's be honest. I don't think he knows how to play with Detroit and all the formation that he's playing with because that's never what he did that Napoli that wasn't what he did. It shows. You never played with the front soon even somebody in behind. I think he's been made to do that because renowned I was never gonNA play just out on the left. And he's because he's always gonNA come in economy. Put He dwayne out there as he did as it's the previous as Allegra D we catch. The Bala isn't really a wide plan isn't really ascended forty wants to plan a number ten role so he's that to change his system to suit. Those replies is an. It's not working at the moment. So you've already touched on it instead of actually setting you. The beginning of the Sunday felt they had the opportunity to put pressure on. Everyone's blink first and playing this kind of your team. That has been bad for a little while and it didn't happen for them. I was thinking of the back of talking about Syria and things he said. I know you humana enjoyed some of the comments. Antonio Conte was making four the game about how things have been going for them the season. Sorry I I have to bring because how because it's been five days and I'm still untidy show I'm over it Because I it does kind of seem like it's a little bit of a Cantera bashing on the show quite Bidu uh-huh will and he's a thing I think he's a great coach. I feel like if you just dropped. All these things he'd be a great coach like without these magin securities. He had come out before this and said it just goes to show you how far we've grown if we if we view away Leche AH to be a negative result. How far you've grown your your using can nicotine for newly promoted side that a seventeenth and the table people? That can't buy a win to say that lives at the moment. That's always going to be a negative result finished second in the type when you're playing somebody. Seventeen the negative result in quonset point the seasons and votes if teams have gone there we know what what are. You can probably win that what he should have said about him. He's actually we played well. We created chances. We just didn't create. We didn't finish those channels. Some of our attacking Blais was excellent the front linked up with each other brilliantly but on the day we didn't defend well enough when Lech advil counterattacks. And that's why we didn't get the result that's the only down so it should have been and then everyone would just be like. Wow he says good coach and even speaks properly but then he says these things you just you almost wanna be like oh terrible at this point you almost forget everything he he does so well because all you'll concentrating on his is these things. Oh you put in these players. Do you think you'll get some young victims unit while it's not like it's Real Madrid. The calm down. You know I feel like this is so much negative energy now that it's spilling out of all the things being criticized by into actually young was not one is we young first began playing in order to reduce the gap at the top. I mean what else. What else do you play with? Full wingbacks right-wing talk honestly. I am a good debut. It was a great cross for the these mocking in the middle. But it was not. He's eighty two defenders to him but a good bowl in in my opinion absolutely should have had a penalty and increasingly just flat out checks his running a completely legal way. I think the boy easily close enough that he can get you know. He hasn't lost control of any. Johnston area is so positive debut from him. And I think that if you're looking at this results in isolation if this dame station I would have no problem looking gain kind of what you have. The chance to look at the goal was a bit of a you know a deflection nine gun. Doing that thing he does. This wasn't a game where you intensive but it was a two moments that you think. That's what I WANNA see. Lukaku picking the ball up. It wasn't that driving past people Lucar. We saw Everton was planning for Belgium and Antonio Conte starting to get the best effort. He's making him look glass player. Again in that partnership with Martinez is magnificent at times. The touch the ball more than any other forward in European uh-huh because they play into them they combine and understand what they're trying to do with each other just the last couple of weeks finishing hasn't been quite as good interesting conversation identity. We've had much on this podcast because Kanteh's Taes should've been at times one of the arguments one of the many things he's enough about on. TV was with Antonio Cappello better using him of being of Klang. Counterattacking can football and and Tim disagree with that. And if you watch what they do actually into is not counterattacking in the classic sense because they don't sit and invite you on the press pitch. They are is extremely vertical so when they get the ball than looking to channel is strength. Those attackers quickly. Say Count that's why they often have a low percentage figure evening games where they dominate shots shots and if you look at areas of the pitch of the ball was dominated areas of the the worst cystic football now is possession yes musician means nothing about the is about. How can you penetrate? Where is the forward pass whereas the forward room and at the moment I love watching into play because when the ball comes into Brazil VICI is already looking into the front sue because he wants to spend in that Bahrain mclinville Valero at the the Beretta and sense? They're going to be looking to play into the front place. They're going to try and link up with each other when they switched to play through the front players. You know they've the wing back on. The other side is going to get forward. The problem may have is if they lose control the midfield then the wingbacks end up being in the back five and the opposition can start to say they control. The worst guy like Blake for me was the game against. That's an answer that was when they did trump lay counterattacking from the the early goal causing a problem. Because they thought okay. We're going to hang onto this doing okay. And after lengthy then took control the game one game where. I'd say you go these tactics wrong. I think it's It was of the other sort of fascinating. Cummings Conti made in this pre-match press conference. Things he talked about was Christine Erickson coming in which I think everyone agrees is a nice signing. I think it's fantastic signing personally. Trust me about we've talked about it. Even we're GONNA pause like how exactly does it fit and well. That's that's that's that's the bigger issue the comedy before the game was You know Someone else he might change his formation to adapt to her exam and he said why would you change your formation when it's working well this this is your fifth join seven is it king absolutely and And if he's not changing it then is Erickson going to be as I think we discussed last last week. It basically has to censor your basement right Stephanos since your placement playing left of that or Brillo yeah I think he rotate those midfield players from week to week he has since he's a good blood. Burrell is a good player. Ericsson is better passer than both of those two terms of funding that fund was. He's not as energetic. He's not going to move. Go forward drums against maybe the teams that defend deeply and since he can't see the rum's umbrella count those runs down the side of the character in between the wingback. But when you need a player that's going to pick the policies a mets. Maybe Chris and Ericsson has been found his everything that you said like we know how into pay you know. Let's let's win about window. Window fullback very very cold. Let's just try to get it to the front to postpone. Hopefully they're efficient enough to get. The call is seems a little bit predictable to me. This is why I think Ericsson is is a good sign but most teams have failed to to cope with Martinez and the calculus even even even gallery talked about if you looked at the the highlights and the and the the go chances I mean some of the footplate between those who was magnificent and the Calcutta making a fool around then doesn't quite get your shawn. Martinez went down the side and Sundays. It's good good. When you're facing teams like Kellyanne Orland J? He's still during my issue is that these are the types of sort of stalls player. I think that can be done about. I I think that you can effectively stop. I'm not I'm not. I still think it's a tactic than he's doing needs to be more variety in the game. I I think that what happened with Kellyanne is he did Miranda. I hate the game really. Why should he didn't allow of what Lavar needed which has put three at the back? And that's how you stop it. It's fun to because then you have an extra man who who's who's to clear up anything that the front I don't get and that's what happened is the three-man back line. And then what you has is is in midfield. That was missing Broza. Vicini felt that because what conde had event is is to players in Polka and and Vidal and I also think maquis SUV as determines the role who could offer a little bit of physicality who could do something defensively who could push forward and attack. But what he doesn't necessarily have when he doesn't have broad switch for example Valera who doesn't can offer you all of that he's not going to run the game he doesn't have the everything else that he provides that pillow. uh-huh cam so then it becomes a little bit like what do we do because what Morandi up front was have three players that mix technique with physicality with height with everything. That's what force them into field to not renew. What do we do? We help defensively to try to push to deliver for the forwards and then it becomes. I think all of it distorted I. I don't see this whole fluid that I want to see that I did see at certain points in the beginning of the season I think now it's become a little bit stale so I didn't know whether Erickson Ricksen I think he's going to provide that creativity but is he really good in the geology of the role is he. Good bus would say go back to what I said. Well against the week asides when he's planning say the Bariller Rollover cincy row when he doesn't need to make some money Ford runs because the opposition Defendant there's not there's not space for him to run into that's when you know when you see him play when he picks that Ben bullen behind really almost bullet Ashley Young play because it was across. Come Pass into the box. Martinez dischord discord. Header is not just. It's not from the from outlawed and it's not from the byline. It's from that sort of inside right position and that's what Christine Erickson did time and time again. He's from plus the plus. Gina offered him that freedom and a little bit times in certain matches. Ericsson will probably saying not enough not enough off but did he didn't have any of them. Let's say The the play. It was the coach before Tina. The Englishman showed that was shoved. Tim Show with which you off for a lot. In physicality from his players Andre Villas Boas is speaks three or four x legends Spurs. WHO would go to every game and whenever I talk to my areas and I said he's the blind we can let go? He's he doesn't. He doesn't contribute enough to the same in the big game. He goes missing. You know all the players there if we had to get rid of one Eriksson Spurs by Ericsson. Yeah I thought it was very interesting that when he was officer how very very few teams went for him and a nice book to to sporting directors from German teams at the time who said to me. He's too lightweight We think that you know you could just flick him unhelpful. In Modern Day football you cannot play with a luxury because he'll be found out you. I think it probably be annoyed boy and I think he won't play every week and you make sure and if you're gonNA play as the the the luxury of the players can open up defense. This is you have to do it on a regular basis otherwise you become a liability. We've seen that arsenal with a much of that. Because initially actually doing the attack inside of the game when you haven't got the ball now he's he's a passenger around the country. I think it feels prosaic but actually quite important into have not had a good take. Dark Free Kicks Hicks in about two seasons. Eric's is they haven't had a goals from free kicks in in some time. Actually in the game exactly like this one against they just need to find oceanside land having emotionally as different times in scrape. When do you didn't tell us from her? Direct take It's been a long time for a one or two from events we've got the loader pianist freaky he's he doesn't the Rinaldo dominate everything. I do I do think the other thing to take from mismatch that is just not insignificant. I mean we talked about at the beginning of January before four integral into this winter slum again about antennae consummate. His jokes about the fantasy. Cloudy about how things always wrong. The most damaging thing that happened is is not drawing that's bad the most damaging thing is eh suspension for us. Because we've just talked about other night that this team is good at get the voting affront to me brilliant. You're not going to have to the full. I don't think we've We know but the suspension might end up running threats as well which just a huge loss. And it's all because he did something totally petulant. The game totally unnecessary which causes as you longer term damage rather than short-term damage and that I think is something that Inter really need to focus on in this period. If you're going to stay with eventers you need you to keep your head to you like as an is it that you know. I think what's so good about contests. He does rilot his please does make them warriors but you think that for certain if you you it just becomes too much a little bit like mooning you was that Madrid in certain certain players. Just can't deal with attention so much it spills out into madness so you know you can really keep onto by kept playing on the outside and get somebody else in. That's why he seems to be buying all these or get getting only knows what he thinks is the right strategy that is potentially what it is but I do feel like sometimes you do need a little bit of calm for these these players to just because losing this man potentially for three matches is can be detrimental. I mean when he was the best player so I don't know what they're going to do with our so be interesting to see of course the other big match this weekend. It has been a week in the room. Darby like Yeah Company. That's the one that we uh-huh. Yeah it really was. And between two hind coaches it was Roma hosting Natsios. It did and in a one one draw which means that it's come to an end who's winning streak And I think that it should have come to an end with the defeat absolutely what just outstanding I mean I sit there and I took Tuesday's having students without Kuni body without amount. Whatever but this one just missing Sanyoto auto? He's missing. He's he's had tim mix and match so much putting us on the parade. Whoever I can find at this point on seniors alive and doing well and and this team was spectacular to watch and I just wonder what it would have been like had they had to toss oh keepers? Yeah it was a AH strange goalkeeper Strakosha for the for the first one late real mess of that. He didn't put his hands on this in the lower than anybody headed Oh catch its highest point. He was trying to catch. It's almost its lowest point. It was a pool but may look like nothing by Paolo as a ballgame behind all right for another corner but uh-huh of all the options available Tim tips it back into the middle of his six bucks then even then Chris morning might be the first person to get away but manages boge Chris morning out of the white himself leaving a chair will be to push around hoping to this gonNA play. What a chance to be looked scored ordinance wrangling? I mean that can't be real like that hasn't happened and then finds out. Okay celebrate that cool. That's your job because up to that point. They had been totally outplayed. Astonishing statistic from the team on on twitter. which is the business? I think they had nazi-era total of five touches inside the box. We we actually talked about how many times I've seen box nonsmokers. How many penalty and they win But the last time they had fewer than ten so like not just about number. I'm a bit double was like two thousand sixteen seventeen three seasons since anyone has kept them to even double that number not playing well and Roma plan brilliantly. You know The plan that's impressed me more than anybody moments Pellegrini. He's playing really well. He looks like he's he's come to the fore now he can pick up. Paul's also. You can run with it. You can go past people. He can shoot He looks to be X.. And you mentioned him Linda impossible again. He may things happening for us. He was a play the player that I saw two years ago. I thought it was going to be a top-class Blah not the one that got an injury and then found out faivre and looks. Zoe lost his competence and was fully white. Johnny and maybe clive as well but now he was one of the key players but he said he'd been back for what three games it was really since it was on your does gardening the right but he is playing with the kind of like swagger and dribbling ability in the technique. It's for me. I feel like I don't understand why the even thought of setting this play because it's been a lot of talk about him going and yet anybody's Temperament nothing that's come on the question. It'll be temporary you. They got the similar for big team. When things aren't going his way dizzy work hard enough to win the ball back? Does he stick to the game plan. which all Italian coaches I bled to to to stick to the tactics? I think they're the reasons noise talent. He's always a tendency blah. I think the other side of the mental side of it hasn't quite been right from comparisons. Any he just sort of popped into my head in terms of how he plays a little bit reminiscent of Andrea Shipman and both of them loaded the ground both of them extremely adept technical complies with their feet. Both from I think also shed and it's one of things I like best indoor this ability to be very sudden is ability to sort of like you think you know what he's going and then either direction breaking cheese. Oh he can just get the ball with no backlift make that shot and really and do it and Arshavin was exactly that are she could win a game on his own but in the end became your frustrating player. Because he wouldn't do it. Every problem coaches don't like players. They not sure how they're going to perform we. Can we prefer to apply. That would play a eighty percent every weight raw. The one that plays hundred percent and then goes down to thirty percent. And that's what Arshavin and undertake civility. 'cause you never quite sure what you're going to get so Sheku scored in his first job since two thousand sixteen. But he's the thing that I haven't issue with US tonight. I do think he's a fantastic player. By every stretch of the imagination. He's been a wonderful seven to Verma but this is a team that had twenty two shots on goal of which I think only three or something. We're on target. They create so many opportunities. They remind me of NAPA On Saturday July but there is just not there. Isn't that man who's just knocking them. All in you know but there's another strike it. They've made it an alternative to Jack. Yeah linking sleep. And he's not getting Gotcha none of us but the truth thing to say but he is you know he. He's -posed is peak. He's still be good but he's past his peak so you're getting declining returns at this point. And yes they do need another because they have such a wealth of behind the attack you would save policy. Well see speak but I think he looks at best plan now. That left Manchester City. I agree slow Internet of you like now that he's the guy that you would want that so everything together often comes to any switches the player to the war but he has to have people running beyond the you know that's why they've got wide implies that Zanny allies perfect because Sonny Lo start running with them without the ball beyond him clive. It should be doing that from the other side Pellegrini starting to do that. So that's if you're GONNA pay Jacka because he sent a forward you gotta get cross into the box. That's how he's going to school. Most of these goals you know whether it be funded and miss a few but you still gotta get into but you gotta get blessed running beyond the was will do they need. What kind of forward would you buy? It's not it's not gonNA happen this January summer idea and it should be someone young And they try and do that with Patrick shake. It just didn't work So it's just about identifying the player and you know you can go in different directions with that you can look for the next of Jacko multiplayer and try and get someone who can be a stray alternate or you can adopt an and do you think there's too many young Italians aliens going to the ballots. Yes I mean. He's he's one that might come to the fore Keane would have John McCain Eric moisture keen could come back to the table and come back to. It's the he needs to come back because I don't quite work for everyone. Unless Enchilada he can get the best out of him. But Calvin Louis Wonderful blabber calvert living is the fans at the moment he's going to be the number one seven two four and it's going to be more keen justin. Should I guess if you played second fiddle to Calvert Lewis. You want to Patrick and and I'm sorry sorry. We will having this conversation Minster about attacking before the game before the poll question could throw Ed actually still. I think you said it best. Like if you were trying to isolate what his best trait is is. It is hard work in the forward Russia. Ron And you'll hassle and he'll look like he's really putting a good fifteen and other places to do the same but has anyone qualitative close plan no so either way remers should have definitely want this right eight yes That's US too lucky to be an should've should've is. I mean I know if God was he. He loves his spectacles. Sometimes I think should I visit points in this context. The fact is they didn't win not CEO defended lots eleven game winning run but like liken to in the end in a where we did not go. I think most of us thought it was going to go. They came to point you mentors. So meal on One again and It was not a great performance. I think we all feel. They were pretty fortunate to get all three points against Best Shah but inexplicably the anti-rebel show continues it. What is it inexplicable me? Because I have some things to say about rabbits like him because when you go back and look at him I going to leave your Antena. He was sold as something quite special. Jeffco manage the grab supposing director. Lose the thing about full Senate the timeline and this is as big a move Fiorentina's Gareth fail to Madrid which you know is optimistic but You have people people comparing Rampaged books and you think ok well if these players get someone signs finds them but it wasn't just people it was allen boxes saying I think he could be the next books like okay. This is a kid who had like a real reputation or like a real sort of expectation. Asian perhaps in creation coming in I find his career so fascinating since because he's basically had like all of time. Maybe like a season. A HOFFA's wasn't sure Sandra Frankford all the rest of the time. He's just been an impact suburb best. He's brilliant the World Cup Gracia International Shnell pretty much around often quite successful in the first names on the jeans. Yeah he's he's such an odd player because you know I can only give the impression Russian of him. I have march him and that is that. He's he's a little bit anoc. I mean the goal. The goal this weekend was a top after undergoing. That's I think the goal he's it has is a bit more perhaps indicative of we can give you. He's quite an occupier he thrives on space and attacking space. He's he's definitely a direct plan correct. Yeah he sort of you think he's a good trip but then when you look at the numbers actually gives the ball away a lot while dribbling. So maybe it's more just the drive school him when I talk about dribbler somebody. That's good skill. When you change direction they will use a tricky as positive I would say what he is? He's the powerful runner that knocks it goes on and if some of the matches him for pace he's got a slight problem so he because he hasn't that next bit of skill to go past them So that's that's why the very highest level at times he doesn't go on and become the play you want it to be and maybe the reason it works cratia and Getting you think think about international football and maybe even especially the tournaments where everything's happening quickly in teams don't have time to strategize and dropped tactics like they do level. That's almost like his perfect environment because it's free fall. It's just a bit wild spaces just to get into unless you plan the very top nations sometimes international teams on as good as club. Because you're playing against the player that you know playing in a in a lowly league playing international football who for one of the lesser nations and. That's when he can come to the fore. What's the best thing to have in a team that holds possession Team like Pasta now has it. Thrives arrives on the vegetable points within the team. It was dining office at the time. It was Any ESTA and it was messy. They can be vertical when needed to be but otherwise it was a team contained in that new info passes to one another and that's what Croatia is and he's vertical in a team that possible so it's always going to make an impact and that's why he was so important because otherwise you're just gonNa have like twelve. Eleven passing is a new. That's not what you need the nineteen. That's what he he was. Always that guy that could just flip it and and then go into the transition and the goes to these schools recently. They're going to get him and say well I'm not sure. Actually I think think a great point for me. 'cause actually you can draw parallels me not doing it but the sophistication of look at how but fundamentally one of the problems. We talked about with his team. Kasese Hof is. Kate is some things that come like midfield. This hasn't always been the things feel good about up front but the connection between the two men apartment so actually having someone tomase a little bit direct a little bit can i. Maybe that's what may need but it looks like purely at the moment is looking. He knows he's Ibrahim. which is the focal point? And he's got to have pays running beyond him and that's he's using it now. Yes I used to run beyond him. What a contrast when you when you saw those teams will happen to the weakened now goes off? There's no question now. In my opinion is a Superior Technical Footballer Mike in Terms of his go out with their feet and think okay. I'm more comes with us but as a change of pace it's quite interesting. Okay because now you really make for him. Exactly that he's a big target and let ribitsch run by It might work. Does it work best. Yes not starting and having bench. I don't know I think it's an interesting but he doesn't start from now to the end of things but just before we do in this segment. I think it's also important tonight. That should probably not have won this match that I showed were nothing short of exception that there were just sound tonight. Delivered the performance of a symphony of compliments. Just not used to say you. Don't want to huge actually to ninety fan but I eighty. I was somebody who really like mantra. Goethe and now I know Exceptional excellent this was in the the Ford Clinic. Asta which percents absolutely I mean he was better at finishing but this was I mean. Donald is quite genuine. You put that play anywhere else and we wouldn't have seen the mistakes that you and all of them suffered but what a terrific performance forman's by him as well. Oh and that wind to him because people are gonNA points out since premature. I keep winning. Also say he prohibitive each missed Milan's best Johnson. It did but I don't know whether it's his leadership skill but just make sure he's okay so we've had these these big games to the extent that we've left a team that's going seven calls to what is the end effectively Would you think it was very the crew. But yeah I I mean I get it I love Atalanta and I'm not a huge fan Mercedes. That's always fun to see him a little. Bit Pain Actually I shouldn't say I think so too Anyway but what I mean to say is I get it. I just haven't goals in twenty one games. Bravo Wall Don Initiatives of God. You know all of this. It's business but at the same time. I think there's a point why when the opponent is now crying tonight maybe just totally disagree with you from from us but when when you are a love Syria the only thing I love about. Syria is when the score goes to three or four nil. With twenty minutes to go. You might as will the country position and go home because one site doesn't almost as well. We're not going to embarrass you. And the other side we coming and for the paying public that lost else. Twenty minutes is a waste of time. Because there's a bunch of respect and you can have a nice meal without feeling that the football did you enjoy wait. Gemini was just ruining your own worried about Brazil or the suppose. I want to see a team team. Still going strong score and still trying because it's it's it was. CPI Jimmy cut through Brazil. It was horrible. Let's see Davos Louise being never mind very horrible. Wedge is a major tension but I was I was. I was covering the World Cup in Brazil the the by the time the semi finals. I was back home and home from the at that moment. I was living with a phone in Missouri and during the semi final. I'm watching it and I think it was About half an hour in The power will goes out in my house. I so this is like a temporary each but nothing happened. It wasn't Like what you think. Maybe the train over it was planned power outage in in the middle of the semifinal of the World Cup I thought to myself this is how I know I mean country that still the United States isn't always as respectful of sock. Okay is it needs to be. Obviously if you're listening to this from the United States you're good soccer supporting These yes I was a I was a bit taken aback but Don't miss months because off five minutes to find a nice house to catch it but like you said so. Does it really matter because you still do. You still want to go. And see teams. Show their skill and pick out there passing patterns. And it's up to the team that losing to make it damage-limitation defend much better. You know that's always when when you when you're losing a game three or four Neil. We can't be six or seven. We're GONNA make sure we keep fighting and we keep putting on a performance of is. We are going to be humiliated. So that's an antenna. Every right got to go school civil. I wanted to see the argument against them so Russia would good without a win. You know it was Fiorentina. Tina Genoa Genoa starting to identity. But let's get into the actions. This is my favorite part. But I'm not going to start with your August I'm GonNa go with the knee jerk. Reaction was the show's Ni had cutter all these areas and I think he's been brilliant goalkeeper for a little walk down a lot better with the goal will the first one. He didn't mind that with the catch it or push it awhile punching away as bu foam would have done. He left it there for. She didn't see the school and that it was the turning point in the game. That was that you've taken it but do you can read your mind. You say yes it does seem that way so my knee jerk was can really they win the championship. Wish me yes you think so. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA win the Champions League but she's been a very good goalkeeper the last when he was asked. No He's very good but I don't know rumor is he. Is He in Edison. He's a very talk alison wagon before Alison Alison went to Liverpool. She's Ni was the goalkeeper in front of Allison. So and then they promised you think he's got all the attributes just these. The mental side of it was was poor. US know he's now got that right. I mean he's a pretty in Kochi even in the last season or to have high profile so he's not immune each let you try it. I mean it says ten years him right relieved ten years time probably but that's can win the Champions League that they won't lose the Champions League lose it because it's not about that I think in order to win a very big trophy. You need to have a world-class goalkeeper and I think that what Chesney uses a very good goalkeeper Kibo. But I don't necessarily think he's the Kinda Guy. Perform the heroic church when Casillas was White House. These making big dumb and May Have Madrid. Just not someone you mentioned that they can win it whether they have likes that team guarant- or whatever you wanna say but they are just a team that wins right but every aside she needs to find these radio I do. I think Chesney so good and I don't want to take away from anything that he's done this because he has been very very good but they're all those doesn't perform the heroics that you need. There are some goals which rightfully should go in. But you know that a walled costs go. Oh keep an addison probably do something that would make. Oh my God like booth on this guarantee an extra ten points you know and I wanna go. Keep the guarantees me ten extra points. Not One that doesn't make mistakes and I think you're right he made. He's obviously made a really high profile one last week but he does things that wow the good thing for me. Can you brain of the night. was you to carry on with something that was done on both of us done expended his knee jerk reaction will say mean by the way the GDP phone told me that the mark of a great goalkeeper is exactly making few mistakes. He said the flash stuff that that comes and goes. That's great career. Highlights he said the great goal keepers. Just make a few mistakes Bats perspective Mine each is the master of the heroics and he said that the real mark of the great is doesn't like neue reactions in in my head was going to be that Event it's not quite Juventus because event is that we expect to see puts puts on throw in in this situation and runs off after anticipate. But you guys. Both you talked about. You went to so I'm GONNA fix around and say you vent this might not quite be Bantus. And that doesn't mean. They called me in the Naacp by the way it just means. He's he's not going to happen in the way that it has sometimes in the past Because they might need because Inter appear to still be intact. Intestinal bill for me the biggest of domino this weekend. I already said it in this podcast. It's not the result it's nuttiness. Getting himself sent tough. You have to control your emotions better than that. If you're going to win the league you cannot afford to town about afternoon into potentially three games without you says it's all led by the manager because he can't keep his contro- that's one of the plants concrete. I agree it's all I can say uh-huh you said that without that I feel like do agree with me which is why you can read. It said well. I know that you're a huge Antonio Conte antiphon tune but on the other side of it on a huge fan of his tactics he plays the game. Like he's press conferences goes with it. The actual footloose on I like. Wow He is a very good coach. We can't deny that but that is all we have time for on steady awesome podcast in which we haven't had too many fights it could be because Gab wasn't here but ah thank you to you August Hewitt. It's been wonderful having you on and thank you choose listener. We hope you'll join us next week when we'll cover have a some more said he awesomeness.

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 88: Eventful Week In Manchester (11-14-2018)

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 88: Eventful Week In Manchester (11-14-2018)

"Entertainment design, just for you, then checkout, customizable, streaming TV from finishing. It makes your life simple easy. Awesome. He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to Insperity dot com. Call one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply. Want to know the latest and soccer. The listen to the Golden State media concept soccer podcast MLS is the world of the Premier League. We've got you covered. Latest update. The hottest matches at news on the league's top players. It's the Golden State media concept soccer podcasts. Listen now. What's up everybody? Welcome to the GSM. See soccer podcast. I'm your host, Mark Souza. With me is Jeff Mellon off. What's up? Jeff Ehlo mate. No. We are known hollow everybody. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? Fantastic. Hope you guys are having a great week before thanksgiving. If you're in the United States, we have a lot to talk about on the world of soccer. But if you haven't checked GMC podcast network, please do so. In addition, a soccer, we do cover other sports football baseball. We do a sports show. That's daily that. You could subscribe to all these podcasts. You can subscribe to you. Don't miss any sport. We're getting to do it most likely. Yeah. We have the insight. We have the news and notes. So today's topics we gotta watch talk about but Champions League last week was a big week in in the Champions League. We talked about the Tuesday matches last week. We have not discussed the Wednesday matches which I think really stole the show of the week, especially Manchester United Juventus. We'll also talk about the Manchester Darby that took place this weekend. Eventful eventful week for Manchester. United is a face Juventus and city. We'll talk about those games how they. Did. And where they go from here. Also, we will talk about some new coaching. Positions have opened up have been filled in England in Spain. And we'll talk about news and notes around soccer. We have news regarding Wayne Rooney. We have news regarding the English FA. MOS playoffs are in full swing. Lots to talk about even a story about rock, paper scissors that will get to. I promise not believe this story is I didn't believe it when I first read, but first things first the Champions League were in the thick of it. Now, we're almost at the end of the group stage league of champions. Yes. We are almost at the end of the group stage as there's only two games to go. At this point. We're seeing clear indications on who will advance who is struggling. But first we have to talk about that huge match. Manchester United Juventus what? Happened in that match. Jeff Manchester United one in a surprising. I believe it was an upset over you Ventas to one. Yes. Absolutely. On the road. In italy. A big big result for Manchester. United has been struggling a little bit. They went to one when we look at the group before we break down the game there at seven points. Now Juventus is at nine keeps me United in striking distance. But more importantly, it keeps them afloat as the number two seed in the group keeping off Valencia because we know that if United had tied that game or loss, they'd either be even or actually behind Lindsay is is creeping up behind them. They're at five points till you United seven. And so it's it's back and forth with them. Definitely in Valencia is a solid team, and they actually defeated Manchester United last year in the playoffs and the Champions League Tanakh, Manchester United out, so. So there is a little bit of history there, we know that it's a formidable opponent. So Jeff it was two one United wins. Tell me the goals. Well, Renaldo scored in the sixty fifth minute which not surprising. Anyone that he scored not surprising? Let me tell you. It was a beauty of a goal. When is he not throwing kicking beautiful goal? You know with all the highlights. He's had his career. He got a pass over his shoulder as he's running towards the goal. Any catches it. First time right footed blast to the side of the heya. He had no chance. It was a sublime finish from sublime player and just adding to the legacy that is Rinaldo. So he gets on the scoreboard, you're thinking. Okay. Juventus controlled most of this game. They just got their goal Rinaldo never want to shy away from the big moment with the crazy celebration where he just pulls up his shirt. He's not shy. He pulls up his shirt showing his Avs. That's the only celebration. He did. He just showed him off. He's got some nice apps. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. He does a few sips every now, and then he's not eating carbs Eiter. Like, my carbs. He he might eat a few. But he's burning off more than he's eating. Let's put it that way. So some people are born with natural sculpture like body. Honestly. No. I mean, a genetically gifted and he works extremely hard. So we gotta get off her and all those ads for them though. Back to the game. You're thinking Manchester United is out because the road, but what hap- eighty six minutes. So this was close to end game. Here motto with the goal for United. But then in the ninetieth minute we had an own goal. Yes. Alexandra believe was it was center that had committed an own-goal, which wasn't really his fault. No it just hit him as going in. But it's giving on his record that he scored on his own team. You know, what I technically he cost his team the game in when it comes to the recap and the box score. Yeah. The ball hit him. He can do anything about it. But unfortunately, he's the man that's gonna get credited with the goal. But the important issue here is. Marino the coach of Manchester United. He's been under fire. Lately. Will he be fired is a question that we've all been wondering, you know, he makes to critical substitution that game. Mata comes on the game. He scores a goal off a free kick. Then he puts in full Laney Filini is the difference maker in that own-goal. He was the nuisance. He created a problem in those two substitution 's where the difference in the game. And for all the flack that marinas been getting lately you have to your cap to him this time because he made two critical decisions that got his team three points on the road against possibly the best team in the world. I mean, they have a good explanation of why the best team event is wise manages United has been team that you could see has fallen off a little bit as last couple years have been on. Yes. Especially with Manchester City rising up away above them. And so this win is a huge Mark for that club. Definitely against a t. It's a statement game. Yeah. There's like, hey, I'm still here after the game arena. Went onto the field in Taunton. The Juventus crowd with his hand on his ear asking saying I can't hear you because he had been eating vogue. He ho Cogan them. Yeah. He did the whole colon. You know, posing fans will always have chance and jeer the opposing players manager. So he went out there and said, I can't hear you. Now, you know, so he gave him one of those. He probably heard some horrifying things. And then some Juventus players didn't like that. And some of them approach Marino to tell him to get off the field and marinas always want to be in the spotlight. Always be in the middle of the drama. There's always that one game your team that you're just like. Okay, shot it shut coach, right? Sometimes just says coach gets a little excited. Yeah. So all in all though, the result is what matters. It was a massive result in Manchester. United qualifying for the second round. We know that if they don't qualify out of the first round, it would be a huge huge failure. And probably lead to the firing of Marino. You know, he may be let go at some point regardless. But that would excel rate that he was all about that. I don't hear you. Because this is my last stand probably is my biggest win my my coaching better. Take this in as much as I can. Yeah. Absolutely. So they get the massive massive win there. And they move on. They do play. Young boys and Valencia in their last two games. So if they can get the win over young boys, but maybe I'm gonna say type or Lindsey against once. And that's all basically all they would need if they draw and they win against young boys. They're in. Yeah. So I don't see them losing the boys though deal. No, not at this stage. No, not with this. They're writing away right now. Now, we'll get into their last game. They did play in the Manchester Darby this week that didn't and as well for them as Juventus game. We'll talk about that next segment, but. What's move onto the other game Valencia in young boys? They did play each other. Yes of Lancia won this game three two one three one. Yes. So they they would have preferred if Manchester United lost. So they could have jumped them, right? But but Meena had two goals this game. On the fourteenth minute, then at the forty second minute. So there was a red card though for the young boys. They yeah, I politician butcher this dog. Oh, yes. In no, go. Yeah. Seek USA no-go. Yeah. He got a red card later on in that game. Yeah. Us at the seventy seven th minute. So maybe too late to get a red card going. Yeah. That point down two goals teams kinda done anyway. So it's not really that big of a deal if he spent for the next probably the next Champions League game against. Manchester. Yes. So yeah. I mean, young boys are they unfortunate for them. They're incredibly tough group. I mean, you got three top teams as one of the. It's. Didn't we say was maybe the toughest group, or at least top what three I would say. It's easily in the top to the Napoli Liverpool. PS g actually top three because Napoli PS Jian group c is a big group. But also group B Barscelona in Tottenham. Yeah. That's a big group to PSV has deal ton of Inter Milan and Barcelona too. So it's just like there's always that one team that like red star has been holding their ground on the in group c I know the only four points, but still they beat Liverpool held their ground. They they're not going down quietly. But yeah, have gone down quietly. So let's let's talk about some of the other scores from Wednesday's matches. Who's next on the list there? Let's Victoria and Real Madrid Real Madrid single. I've nothing. Yeah. Five nil. Five nothing. Five zip five NADA. It was. It was it was a Ben Zima game. Is he had to go on the twentieth minute and the thirty seven th minute, and really everything else was just unnecessary. Yeah. Gareth bale got on the scoresheet Kesse. Mirrow Antoni crews had the goal inbetween Benz two goals. So there was already three goals by the fortieth minute and four by halftime. So it was over early in that game. You know, that's a team Real Madrid is getting back on track. And we'll talk about their situation later on the show when it comes to their coaching search and how that's going but they've been on the right track after firing. Julianne? We'll put too key. So they fire him since that time they've seen this wave of positive results goals or coming in. They we talked about how they had struggled to find goals for most of the season to message and Champions League. But now they seem to be in the right mindset the right track. So what about some other games, we do Roma in Moscow? Yeah. Roma with the win there who to one and this game was actually like it was seemed close throughout the entire game. Now, I mean there was the goal at the four th minutes, but then Moscow came back with golden videos minutes, and then it came back the ninth minute by Pellegrini. And it was just it was just always mass Moscow was always trying to come back. They were always on the back burner. Yeah. It was a good game. I mean, they're always chasing. It what else before, you know, very back and forth possession was split. Shots on goal or close. It was it was a good game Romo. Got the result. Fortunately for them. They get the win. They're winning most of the game. They give up the lead. But then they kind of close the door on that as they score again to take the lead. But that really puts an end to Moscow that really solidifies group G Roma and Real Madrid are tied with nine points. They're both in it. So I don't think the rest matters for them in the long room. Yeah. Roman Madrid really just need a point in their last two matches to clinch, and they should be able to do that easily. But yeah. For Roma they have a chance to actually win the group. And we know that winning the group allows you to play a second place team in the next round. So there is a little bit of importance of winning the group is it everything. No. But it does give you a slight advantage to get first and not second your group. So what about another game? How Manchester City and shock tar. Yeah. They got their revenge for losing the shock tart earlier in the competition. Bye. Six nothing. It was a you want. It was the first four goals or I'm sorry. Three goals happened within fifty minutes thirteen twenty four and forty eight and by three different people. One penalty kick Silva. Hey sues in sterling, and then he sues again with another penalty kick. So there's a he had the hat trick at the end at the ninety ninety second minute, but two of his goals were penalty kicks, and I'll tell you what of this game other than the six goal scoreline. The most notable moment was actually when Gabriel Gabriel zoos fell in the box. He gets called they call a penalty where he trips over his own feet. The defender is not close to him the referee immediately points to the spot. He gets penalty kick, and he scores it, and it was the best case onto why the Champions League needs get v. A are included because that would easily have not been called VA Artan. Yes. So he trips over he goes at chip the ball over the goalie's head like he tries to scoop it over his head, and he kicks the ground, and he he planned into foot yet and he falls on his face face. We've all done that once or twice while flat on our face. We we have somebody else votes. And then he scores a goal. And then he celebrates it's like man, come on the. Yeah. That's pretty celebrated kind of like he won the lottery. You know, he really. Yeah. It was kinda disgraceful in my opinion. But yeah, what about another game in that in that day? Well, we we have any other like iron Munich Athens while I was thinking like other games that are like that like that six nothing. I it wasn't a beat Athens to nothing. Byron scored in the thirty first actually it was the same guy. Anna penalty kick, I ski s I was gonna try to say that name that's a long name rubber eleven dollars. Eleven dollars international, and he got a gig couscous, seventy one first minute. So heated pretty well. From self keeps Biron as the first place in their group that group e they have ten points in behind them is with eight points. So there there I say comparable, but they're firmly in first place at the moment. Yeah. -solutely speaking of I axe. They played been fica. What happened there bent fica? Well, how long have been Feek is like they tied. I x one one, and it was just pretty even throughout. There was an early goal by Jonas in the twenty th minute. And then headache in the sixty first minute. And just there were a lot of yellow cards in this game though, there was four on on Friday acts in three four fica, which seems to be like a lot. No. Yeah. But this game was kind of the most important game of the group has been featured was chasing, I ax points. So I ask. Getting the draw really puts Benfica out of the competition. They'd have to be they probably have to win against Byron Munich and Athens while I XE loses both games are draws one of the two. And if you look at the both their shots on goal. They had ten shots very very contested game. They both at ten shots. Eight for Benfica on the goal in four for I act. So they had a they had really even amount of goals shot. So this game just mattered of like who just who was who's the one that scoring hose. One the hold on tight. See I held onto the time. They they will take its high absolutely over a law. Yes. Big time. So they still onto that second place. They're obviously gonna take the the second place in groupie. Yeah. The be massively happy with that result. So last game of the day was the Leone game. Yes. Leone in often Heim tied at two two. And for both these guys like there was a at the nineteen th minute and the twentieth minute for Leon were the back. Toback goals? Took took the often high at the ninety second minute to score the tying goal. So it's kind of a heartbreaker police on. Yeah. And often Heim was down to zero got a red card and then scored two goals. So they had a massive comeback. I mean that is if if they end up getting it was not like a direct red card either two yellows for him. It wasn't like anything serious. I guess you can. If they ended up getting through though, I mean, we're gonna look at that. As the biggest moment is that they came down. Because now they're only three points behind Leone. They would have been down six points and they come back and they draw the game being a man down two goals down. That's huge that hardly ever happened. So hats off to them. But absolutely demoralizing Leone. Also. Yeah. So we need to take a break. We come back. We're gonna talk about that big Manchester Darby city United the game of the week, especially in England absolutely one of the biggest games in the entire world will do that next. Hey, sports fans football season's here. 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Well, they had another big game last week. It was just a huge week for Manchester United fans as they face Juventus. And then at the weekend they faced Manchester City their nemesis. Their hated inner city rival, Manchester City a club that had a lot of misfortune. And then we're bought one night. And all of a sudden became one of the biggest teams in the world. So things have changed in Manchester. Manchester's been blue for a couple years now when one city or United. Yeah, blue right. Get it get it get it. So the Manchester Darby. Happens this weekend, and Jeff what happened in that game? Well, they were a shitty was up two nothing early in the game by Silva guero with the two goals. Start the game really for two nil. Four city city and Marcial had the penalty kick to make it to one Gunawan sealed it with a goal at the eighty six minute to give Manchester United or Manchester City the three one win over United. And now city is feeling blue with happiness and United team. Bluest tennis. Yes. So. This game city ran away with it. Obviously the gun to wanna goal later on in the game. But you know, for the most part city control this game. I thought Manchester United played tough though, they created some chances score. If you look at the stat line, you'll see a disparity between the shots attempted in the possession. But I thought Manchester United did well and hitting them on the break sometimes in creating some some chances. We knew this city would be on the front foot in this game. We knew that they would control the game the goal that gonna want scored was a beautiful team goal. I think there is forty passes completed before he scores. It was a nice team goal back and forth inside and now possession. And then gonna one finds the space behind the defender small his left looking to Hayez left. Helpless city takes a three one win and this kind of shows United in how compared to the elite teams they're no longer elite. Yeah. They. Have struggled. They're not the same team. They were with surrou- Ferguson. Oh, sorry to interrupt just comparing the goal different for these two teams sitting United's something behold. Thirty one goal differential, Manchester City and negative one Manchester United that's an incredible difference. It is an incredible thirty two points, you tell city was overwhelming United. Yeah. And they've been overwhelming the Premier League this year in in general, but yes, you're right. Manchester United they're now in eighth place and sitting at twenty points after twelve games is not ideal. Not where they wanna be there looking up at teams like arsenal. Tottenham Chelsea will report city, but not only that they're looking up at born with and wafford who they're tied in points with but behind in gold, French all I still think that we'll see United finished in the top six, but it's definitely a struggle so far but this game is another game Guardiola wins against Marino. Pep gorge. Jio obviously famous for being the coach with Barcelona before he moved onto barn Munich, and then settling with Manchester City, and we're seeing city play different brand. Of soccer that the English Premier League. Really isn't seeing other teams play like Liverpool has been great. But in a different way, Manchester City Guardiola's been able to bring over some of that Barcelona style those tactics and make it work, and as you can tell and as you mentioned thirty one goal differential. I mean, that's big. So will this be the game that Marino gets fired? I do not believe so as he did win that seems a tad much well about a month ago sounded like he was already on his way out from United leaks happened where who's reported that they were going to fire him in the coming days. And then they didn't. So I think that his job is safe for now because of the win against Juventus, which is funny because juventas is arguably better team the Manchester City, and they were able to go to Italy and get that win. So it'll be interesting. One of those things where it's like a bad team. Beat a great a good team. A good team beat at great team that that team was better than the great team. I mean, I think a lot of people say city Juventus are on the same tier? But you've intas has had more success, especially recently in the internet like in Champions League because city has been failures when it comes to that competition. They've underwhelmed whereas Juventus has gotten really close a few times lately. The problem is is that Juventus has ran up against Real Madrid. Every single time they get close, and they ended up usually losing that that matchup, right? So. But yeah, it's it's just another game. Where you know. It's it's Josie Marino effect. I guess one game you watch United play. And you're like man, this guy is genius next game. You're like man, I think the team could have been a little more prepared or maybe they could have fought a little bit more. But yeah, I think he stays we'll see what happens though, the transfer window is coming up, Jeff and January teams are able to sign and sell players back and forth. There's two transfer windows one in the summer one of the winter the season one is coming up. We'll see how aggressive Manchester United is in terms of bringing players because we saw we saw them arena was very upset over the summer because they didn't bring in the talent that he was looking for he wanted at least one possibly two new defenders. He didn't get them. And he was a little bit upset about it. And it was public with is his frustrations to the club by not bringing in the guys that he wanted to target this off season. So during the middle of the season transfer window. Maybe we'll see do you think that United will buckle down and spend some serious cash in January. Or do you think they'll write out this season change managers, and then spend money, I mean wouldn't hurt to spend money. In mid season. And then keep going with it at the end of the season. Like, it wouldn't hurt to look around. I don't see them doing anything huge immigration. But I mean, just to get some death, maybe. But as soon as they get it. I think if they fire the coaching into new coach, then it's time to really lay out the big checks. Right. This midseason. I think it's maybe just played see but also look around. Why not it can't hurt to look, and I think that'll window shop in midseason. There is I think it'll be a big indicator of his future based on what they do in the winter transfer period because if they pull out the checkbooks if they buy some players, you know, that are expensive maybe signals that Marino's going to stick around because the club has faith in. But if they choose to not spend it all it might signal that they're already looking ahead. They're weighing the spin after they get their new head coach in the summer. Is that makes sense? Yeah. That makes sense meeting until you have the new face of the place. And then see what players wanna come or. One one transfer. Yeah. So we had other games that happened in the English Premier League over the weekend. So ever pull beat Fulham two goals zero. So on security scored in that game. Any other scores Strom from England this week. Well, actually, I just got a a breaking news Chelsea's facing in two year transfer van okay? For fi fo recommend suspensions after education into sending fourteen under eighteen players. Yeah. Okay. So Chelsea's under investigation. A lot of these teams do go under investigation for for improper fun. There are rules regarding like how old you can sign players. And what players you can sign and things like that. So two years. That's that's kind of big I will say though that a lot of times these were these things happen. They don't actually have like I was the band doesn't go through or like it gets reduced to like they can't by anybody for six months or something like that. But I would be surprised what recommends a two year ban. So yeah, it might happen. But I thought that'd be interesting topic. Literally just got an update until she tied Everton over the weekend zero zero. They did Liverpool beat the first basically first place lost a second place or last last place to nothing, I know their second place, but their base there. No one. I know I'm saying Liverpool is second place. Ok p last place. That's why I was saying I was trying to say that I know their second place. But there they are close enough to it would be first place mistaken. It right, right. Okay. The bed one of the best teams versus the worst team there. It is arsenal and wolves played they tied another impressive game by wolves though as they play another top teams are have lots nasty. They're like wolves. Actually, they run impacts on the field is crazy. But anyways, they have bunch of pelts on them. I don't understand it. They played. Well, they were unlucky to not get the win away our SNL, which is interesting because arsenal look like if you didn't know the payroll of teams, you would've expected wolves actually to be the more expensive team. They really took it to our star. So I was lucky to get a draw. I think most of their fans would would definitely agree with that statement. They never looked at. They were the better team. Even though they held a lot of possession and the game. It seemed like they had a water problems creating chances and going forward or wolves or very dangerous on the counter-attack as they always are. So these games as absolutely Tottenham be palace, one nil. Yes. So Tottenham gets the win over palace. Kind of an ugly win for Tottenham. And they've been doing this recently where they're getting result, my friend. They're getting results, and I get that. But they are leaving a little bit to be desired. It makes you wonder if they're actually going to go into a slump because they're not winning games. Like this game. They should have one two three zero with the players that they have with Harry Kane. I mean, the they have the talent. But you know, they squeak by a struggling Palestine's another squeak by game for Tottenham at Tottenham nine wins. No draws three losses. So they're still playing to twenty seven points in total. But you know, no draws kinda hurt them almost a little bit. If you're just taking the losses. So I guess we'll see if its down point. But again, they at the bouncer back next week and see how they do and their next game is against Chelsea. So big test. They're they're okay. So when I talked about they might go into slump Jeff here their next opponents they played Chelsea then they play. Intern Champions League, then December strikes they play arsenal. Leicester City Barscelona then they play arsenal. And everton. And wolves. That sounds really rough. Yeah, they have a tough run of games coming up. So if they don't better their form if they don't improve their play they could be facing some losses. Yeah. Absolutely. This could be a serious issue for them. If they don't give the don't step it up, but West Ham movie on West Ham in Huddersfield. Neither one one. Big tie for film. Leicester city. Speaking of them tied with Burnley, nothing nothing. Yes. So kind of a subdued game castle on they'd be Bert with which is crazy because born with has been at the one of the top teams one surprise teams this year. Newcastle has looked very poor. But hey, they win and they're improving their status now as they are now in fourteenth place. They are not in the relegation zone as of today. Yes. The regulations own goes to Cardiff Huddersfield in Fulham, but Southampton is. Close to that age as well as palace because they also have. As well as Cardiff. Yes. Yes. Cardiff got that massive win though against Brighton. Brian really stepped on their own foot there where they got the red card in the thirty four th minute Dale Stevens. It's unfortunate result because bright and had been playing well until lose against Cardiff Cardiff is in my opinion the worst team in the league this year. Well, they're not the dead last. They're not as of today. That's true. But we'll see how they're seizing goes forward. But yeah, I think yeah. We'll take a break we come back. Speaking of Fulham, we have some new coaches in the world one in England one in Madrid. Let's talk about those in detail who's in who's out what that means for their future. We'll do that next. Hey, sports fans football season's here. 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We have new coaches, we're at an international break right now. So this is kind of a time period. Worse for some adjustments are made were new coaches are some coaches are fires new coaches appointed some interesting news out of Madrid. So they fire we'll pet to be just about two weeks ago. And they're looking for a new coach. But in the meantime, they give Santiago Solari the keys to the car the keys to the Maserati, and who doesn't like a Maserati your Real Madrid. I think that club is compared to something like that. I come on Rodney like a like a sports car Lamborghini. Okay. So he gets his chance t-. He gets his opportunity to go from the second re the team to the first team manager. And since he's been appointed. They have been undefeated. They have scored goals. Well, time came where they. Make choice either hire them on permanently for the rest of the season or go. Elsewhere. What do you think they did? I think they've honestly made the right choice. I mean going on feed it really speaks for itself now. Yeah. And they gave him a contract twenty twenty one which is surprising. So Santiago story has signed a contract. So forty two years old. He is a former former Real Madrid player. So he knows the system he knows the club. Very well. And since he's taken over the team scored goals, we talked about in previous podcast how they were sitting records a Real Madrid for their droughts and go in goal scoring abilities. And you know, we talked about them losing Rinaldo and how that affected the team will since so has taken over. They've scored four goals. Two goals five goals and four goals in their last four games. So you know, when someone like is a foreign member of that club. And they're starting to coach they know this. They know the system they. No, the the pressure. They know that what the what the owner wants. You know, what there is the atmosphere is like you just have a familiarity with that other other coaches really have when they're coming into a new club. And I think that's really taken advantage of me. Like you said they're scoring goals. They're improving on all aspects. They were drowning when it comes to goals and other flooding in goals. So obviously, something's working there in there in six place, which is crazy if you ever there should never be a time whether that will on the table, but they're only four points behind Barcelona Barcelona was defeated by real beddis over the weekend. Four three surprising result. But that result coupled with Madrid's win has now played him only four point it's a very tight table. It's a very tight Lolita right now. So we'll see how how it goes moving forward. We'll see how solorio is in big matches as we know being the. Coach of Real Madrid. Being the manager you have to perform in big moments because this is a club that doesn't accept losing. They don't accept falling short of their goals. Holler at it. No, they're ruthless. They make no bones about it. That's who they are. And you know, right or wrong people them for it. So moving on the England. Of we talked about Fulham, Jeff how they're at the bottom of the table. They're struggling. They made a change what their manager Slava you can of inches out as manager. He was their manager who brought them to the Premier League as they were a newly promoted side. So he was their manager. It was his team his tactics that got him here. But he has been struggling mightily in their first season back in the English Premier League. And I saw this coming a kind of sought because this team was bleeding goals. I mean Fulham they can score goals. But you just cannot give up the amount of goals that they give up and and think that you're going to survive a whole season. I mean as of right now form is that a negative twenty goal differential through twelve games. How negative of them? Yes. So get it got it. So they needed to change any know who they went and got. Who they get? They got a coach who has won an English Premier League title. They got a manager. You gotta go with the guy with experience and success. So why not they got a manager? Who took a team in the most unlikeliest fashions to a championship. Wait a minute. You don't mean who you mean caudill Rene airy the former let the bed bit I can't pronounce it Leicester City. Yes. The former Leicester City manager cardio Ranieri. He is appointed new manager of Fulham. So he has been in a situation where he's had a new team. He's at turnaround coach he was like g-o-v Leicester City after they struggled last season to start the year. Even though he had led the team with her first Premier League title ever just a couple years ago. But he is back. Once you get all the money, you're gonna get a little, greedy. You know what I mean? We as we have seen Ranieri back in England lately because of the passing away of the chairman for west or city, you know, Ranieri was an attendance. He had a great relationship with that chairman. So. We've seen him recently. But now we'll see him weekly on the sideline managing Fulham the London-based club. So. You know, what I found very interesting, though, find interesting before they hired cardio Ranieri. They reached out to former arsenal. Coach and current free agent manager Arsene Wenger, really, yes. Which is interesting because Fulham and arsenal both London clubs that would have given Arsene Wenger the ability to stay in one or at least go back to London Hinault. No, he's French. But. That way, it would've been a home there. I'm sure it would have been quite interesting to see Arsene Wenger back in the English Premier League. After just a few months away coaching across town club in Fulham. But it did not happen. He did not accept that the role. Is sounds like, but it is interesting that they reach out to him. I and I I like the MVP by club. Fulham Fulham is known for creating a environment that focuses on their youth system. They build up players. They don't buy. They don't spend a lot of money on players, but they have very known and credible academy in England Arsene Wenger, I think that kind of fits him. He likes that he likes molding young players. I think it might have been building owned team. I think it might have been a good fit. But we won't see it happen. At least for now as Ranieri will at least be the coach through the rest of the season. One thing that I do find interesting though is Wayne Rooney former English captain former English international he will be back in England back in London this week, and he is playing a farewell game for the English national team they bringing him up for one last game. So he can get proper retirement game. Try a good bicycle kick. Again. Yeah. I don't probably not back, but he's playing against the United States in a friendly in Wembley. So it'll be fun. It'll be fun to see them playing against like some of his teammates yet. I'm not sure if any of the DC United players have been called up. I haven't looked at the roster. But I mean, it's possible is def definitely there will be players on the field that he has played with or against this year for sure in in the MLS, so. He just kept off a great for season in the most he narrowly lost too'soft on for newcomer of the year in in the United States. But he has been a great addition for the it's going to be cool. I don't expect him to start. I would say that he's probably gonna come on in the last twenty minutes or so as a subsitute he'll get the proper. You know, welcome by the crowd. I it's a big deal in England as he's going to be regarded as one of the best English players of all time. We know that saying something to and I believe his first game for English. I think he might be the youngest player to ever where the English actually eighteen years old. So I remember him. I remember the baby faced Wayne Rooney. And now he gets his proper, farewell. So I think that's really cool that they're doing that. Again, that's this Wednesday against the United States. Make sure to check out that game. We'll see who the US plays out there. We've seen them go the youth movement. We'll see if they continue to do that. As they look at qualifying for the next World Cup. We know that they cannot go another World Cup qualification without qualifying. So. We take a break. We should should take a break. We'll come back talk about some news and notes around the world soccer. Hey, sports fans football season's here. And it's time to get in on the action. With my bookie. My bookie is the industry leading sports betting website that offers real Vegas odds on football baseball, and all your favorite sporting events. 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Stop for everything sports, the Golden State media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL? The NBA's all Dane here. Golden State media concepts sports, but cast listen. And welcome back to the GSM. See soccer podcast. We just went over the new coaches in the world of soccer Fulham has new coach Claudio Ranieri as you may know from Leicester City, and Santiago Solari has accepted the managerial position for Real Madrid until twenty twenty one. Of course, we know that can change if they if he's not successful this year. They're they're not afraid to make a change. If needed don't matter what the contract says. So we have some interesting news notes around the world of soccer, Jeff, we'll start with a funny one. We'll start with one of the weirdest things that you'll hear in the world of soccer today. So so in the women's Super League, which is a woman soccer league in London or maybe just England. I'm not entirely sure destinations are though it wasn't man. There was a fischel referee going to the game. He forgot his coin. Which what do you think you would do if? Got your forgot your coin for the coin toss the game. I'd probably go asked somebody like in the crowd or maybe like a cameraman. Like, hey, do you have a quarter? I borrow you have a pound you have a euro quid quid. Do you have anything that's a coin, and I can flip and that has a heads or tails marker? No. He went a different way. He change it up. I don't think we'll ever see in a professional sport again. What's that the two cab? He made the two women on either side. Do right, paper scissors. No. He didn't winter in that decided the sides. Wait, he made them rock, paper scissors to see who got the ball. And who got which side? Yeah. Basically choosing sides. Yeah. Isn't that the most ridiculous? And he got suspended for this get suspended for this. I think you should give the man a race just problem solving easier to get a cooling, then do something completely different abide. The rules. Are there for the rules? The there are rules of this game and come on now. All right. So when I was going through college this like, oh, we can't do coin. Okay. Let's play a game tag on the field before the game starts. So when I was going through college, I refereed soccer against make some cash, right? Nice job like kids soccer adults mostly for like the recreation district ever. Oh, yeah. For sure. But the thing is is that. It's an easy job. When you're in college. Right. You can work in the evenings. You make a little you make some good money doing that like twenty five thirty bucks a game. That's twenty five thirty bucks an hour. Pretty good for college kid. So. Sometimes I'd forget my coin. Absolutely. It's not that hard. Okay. I understand. You haven't had a gear. Right. Yes. I understand that. But you know, how easy to find a coin look on the sidewalk or something? So I would always hold. If I did that. I'd always either make them do rock, paper scissors there at a stadium, right? Yes. It will go to go to a vendor and say, hey, do you have any change? Can I borrow cord? I'll give it back to your promises. Sometimes I'd make them do game to start. Gimme some change hotdog, man. So sometimes I direct river scissors. Sometimes I'd hold -solutely. Sometimes I'd hold a hand. I'd hold my hand behind my back and hold a one or two and asked him to guess shut your trap. What what's wrong with that? That's that's stupid. It's rec soccer. Well, K if this okay what if it was the World Cup? No, I wouldn't make them do that. But this is the women's Super League in England super. How many people were an attendance is what I'm wondering hundreds of thousands ten chill. I said potential people and chill people. I don't even know how that makes sense. But as in there's potentially that many people there, we don't know if there's not it's probably not televised. It's on televised in America. But I will look for this game. Hold on. I will how find this. And I'll show you if I could find it. I'm known motivated now than I have been all day. So in England, though on a serious note. They're considering the English FASt considering cutting the foreign player allotment because each each club can only have so many foreign players. They have to have certain number of English players right now, it's seventeen for foreign players. They're considering cutting it to twelve that is a significant change. Okay. Yeah. That is as you'd be changed back to the to the. But before we go back to because this is important. That can affect teams like Manchester City like Manchester United who have a lot of international players. They have a lot of players not of English origin. So they're considering making this change, quite honestly, I think it's the wrong move. I think you should teams get as many foreign players as you want. You should've let them run the clubs how they see fit. If they want to run a team, that's mostly English based by all means. But if they want to run a club where they're they don't care where the person is from. I say allow that to happen as basically it is now seventeen seventeen twenty three twenty five players as a lot where you can allot them to foreign players. So yeah, let's go back to what you're saying. First of all apparently, this was a televised game. Pavers took place and he's been suspended until December seventeenth so a month roughly. Is that too much for simple steak like this? Yeah. He'll now survey three weeks suspension from November twenty six. Yeah. I think it's pretty funny though. So. Moving on MLS playoffs are in full swing. Although now that word international break they are to breaking in the playoffs. So November twenty fifth Portland, timbers and sporting Kansas City will be the two teams point for the Western Conference and out east. We have Atlanta United against New York red bulls. And I think that's pretty obvious. New York red bulls in Atlanta have been the best teams in the east by far this year. But it is the prising see Portland the number five seed they get to play the number one Kansas City, but they are definitely the surprise team of the tournament. So far they got past a rival Seattle Sounders. So it'll be interesting to see if they can continue this journey continue and move on to the final. So. Also in the United soccer league. That's the second division here in the United States. Louisville city won a championship their second championship. They be Diddy drug and the Phoenix rising f c in the final. So awesome. Name by the way. I will continue to say that every time I mentioned. Yeah. So congratulations to Louisville city. They're big big club in the US L. 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Barca take 1st-leg advantage

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Barca take 1st-leg advantage

"Welcome into the F C studios on this Champions League went sale on my good friends. Craig burley. Show. Where do we have the chairs all even here? We made of you'll till full-time being on a on a phone book or two over here. All right. Plenty to get to a couple of games that starts at Trafford. Barcelona beats Manchester United goes down as an own-goal, Luke Shaw messy. We Swire's involved in the play that leads to the victory. No shots on goal for Manchester. United in this one first time that's happened in Champions League play since they started keeping stats pregnant you want to start with the Thais still alive and temps Goldline. But what we saw was a bus Lona site. Clearly lead and looked lately and then was in second gear evenly. No massey. By his own extremely high standards, high average, even by standards yet. They still controlled the game. You mentioned no shorts on target from United. So I kind of feel that you know, everybody particularly fines will be saying. Well, one we went to PS G know behind still Chines, I suppose. Yeah. You have John's, but I'm expecting a much more expensive performance from busload on the second leg on much more clinical performance. There was a little bit of something by Manta United the end of the first half. And that's about it before then. And after that, he just been feel like Barcelona really believe that majesty night it was ever going to score. And so therefore they didn't feel the need to take any chances going forward to take any risk going forward. The game was played for the most part at the pace at Barcelona wanted to play that in itself. Controls the match and controls the possession and control everything that magic. Knight is trying to do might just say United was not successful and trying to make this a game about athletics system in running over distance running over space having pulled bug by with a long run out of the midfield. Never really happened Marcus Rach for what's not able to get in behind never really happened. And so those are the opportunities for my United. That's where they have perhaps nejra Barcelona. And because they were not able to get on space in Barcelona says, you know, what we'll just gonna keep it. And we're going to hold it in and we'll take one nothing to come now. And then close it out over there. I think it's comfortable and confident performance from Barcelona they need what they needed to do or they did what they needed to do not more than that. Not anything else. Not anything spectacular thought much just United ru more poopers for in the second now without about as going. As a as a considerable that the best chance probably felt a rush Ford after punch from from which which he miscued or that being said, this was this was about boss, Luna and more to the point boss recent record and enough coach teachers a week from whom in the Champions League where they've not been greet yet. They come to will travel. They win the game that dominate possession. That never really looked in a whole lot of a lot of trouble. Maybe messy was left a little bit rattled after that challenge from from small ING, but other than that. It was Boston it doing what needed to be done in fashion that they they haven't done in recent years Dalo had a good chance, but the head of not a great save from the head and for staff with defeat from from an excellent straight from Patino and then Louis while as really should have berry in the second half done the right Hon, John when you enter the site that was quite simple to go across the goal keeper. I don't see. Bacelona PS PSG that which is should himself in the foot completely bottle and Paris. I don't see I see, you know, United some place, but possibly and maybe have a threat on the field in terms of the team sheet. But I don't think they're gonna be able to crowed Massey. And the new count the way the crowded them Old Trafford, it was all the central from buffalo times, and they were able United able to get bodies. And the space operate was denied. I don't think they're going to be able to the company. Let's take a look at some player ratings that we've got from today's match, and I think I'll it's pretty clear there's a Gulf in quality right eleven verse eleven I mean, there's a massive golf between these two teams there is. But I also think that there's also golfing quality as to why Barcelona Cam be and what they were today today was all right? It was just did whatever they needed to get a result and move away from that as to what they can be. Can be a whole lot more dominant mine to say United. I mean, there were solid across the lines. There wasn't really anything spectacular from to say United. I suppose that you can highlight the performance Mike dominate if you want to do that and going that direction. I still think that this is about how alone approaches the match the scary part for my to say United is that Barcelona can be a whole lot better. They know they can be a whole lot better. And if they want to be a whole lot better they can show it, and if they can speed up the possession, they can do that too. If they wanna getting behind they can do that too. If if you have a better performance only domestic buffalo now obviously picks up their level as well. So this was their chance for Matt to say now to try to think that you're going to go into Alona and get a result. Then I just don't see don't see it because you're not even going to be close to the ball close enough to. So that you can pressure on four mistakes. That's the only thing that maybe might say not it has gone for them. I don't see it happening. Experience for young Tillman. It'll big story here experience for having a good night. I mentioned them crowding messy. He wasn't quite a few jokes a young, man. And all of a sudden is thrust it's playing against the split on the plot at the moment. And so for experience for a young fail to go and ensure that he can do a setting Medfield job. Well, I can some of the best in Europe. Is it good Philip for him? This is a guy who when you went away with Scotland recently, and they had hardly any players when they lost in Kazakhstan to the teams in European fit. Will this Montijo on the bench, and he only gonna Solska different reasons putting the try and do a job on one of the best place on the planet. That's a good shot in the arm from the Philo Barcelona will feel like they left something on the table in this new. Could've leg. Listen boss, again, kind of give them the been on the road, and in this competition, you take you win and as much as the it could have been a whole lot more convincing without question. Boston dominated the game. That didn't give too much away that take unnecessary chances that could have been two or three as Craig rightly points out. I no you go back to the comp know where they have been good on whether they have Christians in in this competition with with a one goal lead that that says a lot. I I don't think I don't think they leave here. Feeling disappointed. A talk K said earlier in the week that can't leave Manchester. United live did that. I don't think I'm of course, the scoreline would suggest that this is closed. What we saw today. We'll know about. I think it's I think the result makes it look closer than you really is. I've sat here, and I've tried to make an argument for my to say United, and I just don't think that argument has a lot of liberty. When you think what Barcelona can me and we saw today. Stuck in second gear as we just mentioned sorta kinda just passing the ball around sometimes lopping possession. Sometimes loosen the ball in bad areas. Like surgery was kid did a couple of times, and you still go away from home and win one nothing. And so if there's a whole lot better for for Barcelona to be at home, then why why would we think that this would still be alive? Scoreline makes it closer than it is just United has an opportunity, but I got smaller today the truth is we've been seeing this for some time. This is not a great Manchester United team, not by by their own standards. They with host money, this should not be in this competition. How why they here is peer. She's quite says question to answer. But they know that they will plead for large. In the previous round yet. Still the hair somehow, I don't think they're hiding anything. And I don't think this result surprises anybody or has anybody in my suppressant any kind of panic button about what what needs to be done. What's United play in the second part, the bus and hope? They'll they'll defend on the probably try and play pace up front, and the and Patterson and Paris, which is dominated. And then hopefully, make mistakes they made that some hell of mistakes. I think care amid the first mistake, and then you know, before it was terrible. And then the penalty some debated. We most thought it was a panel. What can not lightning to strike twice as basically on many, many, bad games are average games this messy have messy? And I'm talking by has done, right. Every time we switch on the TV or going social media on a weekend. He's two goals and Lalita particularly home. So. He's another quiet night. And they make mistakes, then you have a chance to see the hard to expect another quiet night for messy, right? And when we say quiet, again, this is standards rights, and who standards are different than everybody else's. But he is the one that said the goal he's the one that that whenever he touches the ball everything happens for Barcelona, and I know by the way might say not to get nervous. And then they crowd him. And they get numbers around him. Eventually he's going to be able to play out of that pressure. When he plays pressures. We creates bronze for everybody else. And he's going to create up everybody else. And I don't see the same Barcelona at home that we saw tonight. And even though this wasn't great does won them the game. We'll see a much better Barcelona from United perspective. Can we see them more expensive in the second leg? Or is that is that disaster waiting to happen? I hula. More expensive tool. You have to crow bus and all you have to try to deny them space as did to de Hotta tusk because we keep seeing the car. No hope to hit them on the break. Hope that Russia gets some ho finds himself one on one with with PK or whoever it is the decided to play the back home that Lukaku picks up a Narran backfires as as as happened to against PSE there any number of scenarios here that Manchester United backing on all of them being that Boston below average on some home meek mistakes, and they have the right players in the right positions to to capitalize in that. I don't think that you chasing a game not against boss. Luna nut with somebody. Like, Lionel Messi on the park, especially at home where he just does as he was unless you smash them into phase small day. And then maybe get away get away with away with it. And so, you know, now, you got bleeding nose and all the other things that maybe that's what took away from his game today. That maybe, you know, not today. I'm not having this today. But I just again second-leg I expect him to be better and Barcelona's a whole to be better Barcelona than one nil after the first leg, let's take a look at the odds of the second leg, Manchester. United six to one underdog there are Sloan up one to ten favorite to advance to the Champions League semi finals member. If you ever do miss an episode of the show, you can always check out the podcast available on I tunes as well as our website ESPN at C dot com. The always will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work as do the talking for him. Always Jim always running drills. We'll new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried is hunt tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. Which was awesome. Meanwhile in Amsterdam I XE Dominy possession. Dominate opportunities score against event this one one draw Cristiano Renaldo sports second before. Half-time narrates gets the equalize opening minute on the second half, the first leg and in a draw. Would you make a match? I asked just got Juventus te that's exactly what happened here. I mean, they had the possession. They had the chances. They had the opportunity they had the game. It was all about I x and then for Sunday fight themselves down one nothing. So good reaction by I actually come back and make it one one take that lucky in the end when you think about the fact that do Costa hit supposing that might have been to one and it series over. It was a risk still in my mind to play Cristiano Renaldo, and I guess he must have been one hundred percent fit. If you're willing to take that chance, but I guess risks worth taking when he comes in and scores a goal that. He did. I would not have done. It legacy knows better. He puts him out their scores a goal. But this is all about I x, and I think a wasted opportunity to truly make a case for themselves in the second leg. I mean yesterday on this show we sat and we said terrible decision from Allegra doesn't what happened today. Prove he was right without him. They lose. Well, not necessarily. Some of the top position with they didn't look all these right? People come on and say to you said Burnell will ship play a risk risk and reward, you know, with muscular energy is just taking a Johnson and bring in some the took that John's that looks at the moment of going away with and Thames. I'm not to foster the goal. I would be more bar about as as the muscle. All right then game. Anyway, the bottom line is is difficult now up a big argument for because you see this whole when you see that against a clinical in the last leg when you look at the experience in the team. Then all roads point event is going through the one thing I would say as not inhale shuns, I actually going to defend. Hugely exciting to watch. And they're gonna play. They'll be in the dressing them saying with the band the bail. So we can do ensure red. But that's you've aside is a different honorable to Real Madrid. Particularly the way that organized on the defense talk night for IMAX. But. Giving them at least on giving them a chance to go to Renton and get something than I would money United. Boss, alone that way. What do you think? There are other decision validated. Validated known that lets you me it came through unscathed. I I'm with everybody who sat in on this desk and said that every what might decision I I wouldn't on all things be uneven. You've had us should always get the better of I axe. But especially when you see I access performance not just today. But in the previous round again, she did you understand. Why why maybe Allegra felt he had to take that chance again? So no, he's is told well, you're quite happy with the decision. But this I ask team continues to me in play type of all that. I didn't think they will capable of. I thought they were tacking the game to events in a way that not many have probably will then give them what happened the previous role in both at home against Real Madrid. And then hold it responded in into the bow you I again, this is a I asked I think go go to to Rin with. No, faira tall feeling that they can get. Something to this. But you've Rentis far more experienced far better at defending what what they have than this readmitted site is said and done. But from my axe. I'm not overly don't dangerous thing about I x is that. Okay. Here's the team bunch of young players. Right. And you think well, yeah, they're creative. Yes, they are attacking attack minded, but it's one thing to attack minded, and then another thing to be able to carry it out on the field against team like Juventus and the way that they did. I mean, he was from the first minute that they were creating opportunities. And so you have young players on the left narrows, creating the is creating chances and Todd and this guy the other guy Bundy week, and you think in man, if I'm on I I'm not so concerned about whether I'm going to be able to get past inventors. And the second leg I'm concerned about the fact that we're not going to be able to keep any of these guys because everybody else is watching just the same way that we are. We're like we don't know going after that guy going after that guy. This is a true. Early talented exciting team, and they made a time today. Juventus look very uncomfortable more uncomfortable than I thought they would have been in the end still though do into takes the goal away from home. They take that result. And they'll be comfortable and confident to get to get the job done at home. When you think to second-leg, you're gonna think of it might United boss alone. Probably been dominated look on the counter and impact back when you think this game, the second leg, you think can event off to be absolutely on the toes here because I actually going to come and play you mentioned Todd h he was unbelievable. He was good again tonight. But it's unbelievable in the ban the Bill. I mean, unbelievable just the strings Frank at the all delay. Expedience and then blend them one. Good mix. Innis. I excite on. If you switch off for a minute. Go cholorine them is it going to come at you going to play as going to be a great game to watch. I think the other game is going to be a bit more predictable. But this one I think I think event this will get the job done. That's all about. Rinaldo not spies there. But I think is going to be plain sailing put it that way as much as Renaldo will grab the headlines maybe bias here. But I think she has news probably Venice's most valuable player on the. I mean, he's not only show. It's not counting shelter just scrape deposed and deflected white. But he he was producing to keep you vent doesn't in this tight. In a way that you city. The next backed does everybody agree that I better today. We're clearly better than antidote or no. I think they played football manager game. Well, is it just going back to terrain solves the problem for you've intas? Seem to think. Well, there's a home advantage for sure they've already proven this year. But then say a different animal in Real Madrid. Proven bend the Bill and play free Floyd corden, no fear football. But Real Madrid this year have stunk the Bach defensively in midfield at times. Even there any number of clubs in this competition who play free flowing attacking football. But don't necessarily get to the stage. What vendors have done well over the years and continue to do? Well is manage games with the never find them. So tried hardly ever find themselves overly stretched shouldn't enough fluster a never in a public. There's a there's a big value to that that experience and being able to handle that monitor on just being able to plan the from. Intensity about Juventus that we saw in the second leg against that. We didn't see today I expect that version of renters I will squeeze the live out of you that that will present areas in the midfield that won't be as easy for I actually create their chances and their opportunities. I don't think I was going to be as comfortable way from home as they are at home and all those things added together, and then I suppose a healthier row now the would also help, and you those things and you think the experience factor Juventus what they are in this company. That's why you go with rent because we've also seen it before from them would really haven't seen him for any. I XE not this group of x one one then heading to the second leg interest. As we take a look at the tax Ford eleven hundred dollars event to one the favor. Arsenal host Napoli on Thursday in the euro league quarterfinal, first leg, our snow favorite there. As you see to advance to the semifinals. They're coming off the you want. No the feet against Everton on the weekend. We'll make of Arsenal's chances crack home this way from home. The don't does that mean pressures on to get a. Yeah. Not just a win. But maybe a big result. They need to get. I I think the need to get a couple of goes ahead, which is against this. You look awful primarily on the National League. I don't know how many times I'm gonna wear for the performance and the rectified the whole so they need it back. I expected this game from home. The other side is not play away from home recently lost to amply lust soaks park in this competition away, Israel. We haven't traveled, particularly well, I do think they will fill the two legs. But I could see smoke getting a win at home. When you haven't been good away from home. Then. They important of this game, obviously becomes a whole lot bigger for arsenal because they play your soul. So no, they know that they haven't played well away from home. They know that they have to get a lead here. And so I wonder if the game goes on, and they know they need a lead. They start pushing numbers for those then that open themselves up in a way in which they can do because our signal under beds. They are not very good defensively. And so he just feels like if Napoli patient enough to Canada just drawers on say. Okay. All right. Coming gate us combing show that you can break through us. And if you're able to do that, maybe you'll get a go. But if you're not able to do that. Now, we're going to catch on the counter, and we have enough players in the attack in transition that that are gonna hurt you this. I think this is a very good Napoli site on despite this troubles in particular. Simply I mean, this is tutor rule voice from twelve months ago where the blanked European football in an effort to chase shown to choose on your Venice. They're not cut an event is the season. I don't think anybody's catching them into the second. So maybe they allow themselves a little bit of loss of concentration in terms of what's happening in Syria. I don't see that happening in European football tall or that being said, I think also out whom a good enough to get the result over the two legs. I just feel this by a superior Napoli team and the ultimately go through Napoli visiting London on Thursday the rest of the new robot league quarterfinal slate highlighted by healthy. Visit the prog. Benfica and pine franker ref. Guys. We've got about a minute left in Showtime for some final thoughts. I wonder after all of the champions the quarterfinal first legs which the underdogs. You think? Now is the best shot to advance so United. I x of Spurs. For those just. To choice complicated them. No porto. I would say the mall spas with the best. John sokaia alley. Yeah. They won. Really? They have a real opportunity to improve. Yeah. I agree. I despite with or without how Cain thinks booze with the win. It's it's they have as good a chance as any of those is not portal tell you. Complicates again, keeping two teams. I've asked we've got for shock drag on Sept. Thanks watching. We'll see you tomorrow. All right. Have you with us on the latest edition of extra time? Craig Ali Chaka SEB here in studio small. Well, just realize that become. Meghan before the show. We got to get going. Literally cannot make this much is in the. She'll be able to get up from that job. We have no choice but to do. All right, go. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. There's very little about this show that make you feel better. You of those? I do love it. Let's start a question up with gap. Marcatti who is also with us come to this. If you. All right dressing up. Venice a bit overrated. That's our first question. Depends how you rate them. I think anybody longtime Syria watchers on on ESPN. Plus, no that had this incredible ability to play badly, and and still get results in that. They haven't been haven't been great this year, they're setting records. But they've they've managed to raise their game when it matters. But other than the other than the Madrid game. Why don't think we've seen event display very well in a long time, and you can make the point that they haven't had to they still get the results by. Yeah. Expect them the play like a dominant team. No. They haven't done that. Question. Go ahead. Gangster tate. The extra time the hashtag FCA chain. Question for government coinc- have you just been dragged bed while the segments? No. Funny enough, Craig I watched the games and the games finished. Yes. Then I went around the corner. Choose a pub with MRs n. I then I came back, and it was only supposed to test like low point. But then producer said can you come onto extra time because we need to live and things up guys. You're little. Get changed. Like, no, no, no time for that. You look fabulous the way you are. So, hey. New type of ticket. We saw grooming yourself before. And that was a little scary little disturbing. All right. Let's move on the next question. Joey wants no has jar caper Barscelona had the same value comes home from the pub for extra time. Puno? Excuse me. Mrs ebb let's go onto test mcbeal. Very close at eleven. Close at eleven where I live. Yeah. On your your choice. Get out off lived in London. The old northern away to the old the old governor of the pulp last all those never gets through there. How wasn't a mall? People are accounts. Okay. I gotta say Craig that was impressive. How much knowledge you had of the pop culture. Do they used to live in London? See that's local Paul up in a village. Coach Shanley said London governor of the pulp is optional Fahd and he used to come riding a few of us local regulars. Very. Frequent. They ring a bail. I don't know if there the ring a bell for less high left Paul last co minutes out on Easter. A couple of favorite ya. Those through everybody. I know what to drink and we used to stay drips 'cause upstate. Carrio? What was the sign for you guys to go home? If it was not the bell. Would you? The site for us to go home fellow. Right. Sorry. Thank you tip, quite digress. Really? Because he was talking about pokes. Mexican please. That's coming. Do you know one of the questions that didn't make this? But was submitted yesterday was who is Craig Burley favorite Mexican player. Whole time of all time. Anytime you want whatever you think whoever comes say hatchback f the extra time to. That was that was one player too key. Chucky ducky. What was that guy used to play the Julia? Used to do. They also Google scientific. Okay. Okay. Back that guy so sold a guy used to saliva. Ally. Five times props boring. Spain of some guy that got before my year. Apply to him. Sorry, something in my ear, trumpet, some out gab. He's very blue. Your tongue. Looks told me all I thought air look green. He's been on those coattails. They're going to have to go. Like beating. Candy store. That you can we can come dressed as. You can take into the I don't know what this is still on this one. We are trying to get to this on for ten minutes. Got got stung might just my tied to the has had the same value as Van Dyke has for Liverpool. Should. Okay. Maybe I think I mean in the at at the moment because clearly we're not comparing career ended. Comfortable's is nearing the end. There was a time this season with picky said, huge success possible petrified dyke module. Stop. In terms of career. Yes, there's still a whole lot to do for the catch up high. Let's talk to championship. Chris wants no with Nordstrom today and Leeds Sheffield United and West Brom inconsistent. Who do you think will be promoted? They will be. I going to say you're going to get promoted leads leads just. It's just the stuff that to be a little flaky of lady thrown a third. What for the playoffs? Yeah. Austin villa? Okay. Okay, gap. Who do you coming out? I don't really watch the championship of people. Tell me about it. Villa have kind of been getting getting better mister Farsi is doing a wonderful job at north and. Leads have gone all in go off. So. Good. But did you get that GOP? I'm thinking to begin one. I don't know. It says it pretty pretty basic. But you know, you could dip it all the way up as well. If you're if you're cold which chosen I think, it was a gift, actually. And receipt with. Locks the day. The joke. Still joking. He was happy. By date. Joe still don't you did love at my job. Constanta laughing. Keep the receipt never heard that before off the tone Bush Bush, Brad. This one is definitely for Craig who will win the COPA Mackie's final tonight league at mckee's giants blue Medica or the team from second division. Steve. The last time I watched. Suarez. There was there from two point two. That's the name of the twenties from Los drop. So you have to drive up. What do you want me to Lowe's Bravo's school? It's the nickel Antica club America doing. The name of the team. We're here here you. Going here piece. I can tell not Wheeler. I don't know if there's much anybody pick on this game. We know who you're is. We know you'll take. You know, big is right. You put this question for your cinema Betty. You question yourself. Yeah. Jumped when you do that. And then let's thought ring this is just great as if I haven't been targeted enough. You go. 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Ajax Stun, Barca Cruise

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Ajax Stun, Barca Cruise

"I walked me into less edition of ESPN AFC down Thomas from Allie. Moreno Craig Burley and Schachter Hazel gap. Mouth caught. He'll be with us o surely later on the program. Now, Massey steals show has a company not United out the champions. They, but it's ensuring that we start eventers. Remember one one was a store against acts in the first leg, and it started. Well, you've acre shown or now opening the scoring but goes for acts either side of our time guarantees them a place in the semi final event as out and people who didn't see the game Craig might thing. Well, maybe I got lucky in no way, they not deserve this win over to gauge not over the two games, which is incredible. Well, maybe it's not always felt today's league games. This was going to be the game because you know, bosses dominance, which. Talk about an affair. I would go and have a go and play the football. But most people think you have experience on with Rinaldo would just as the moat too much knows too much experience at home what the last leg against athleti with their now too. Hot trade. But they were beaten by a team, and you want the were outscored and terms of football lesson. I actually youngsters mixed with experience not all about faster quicker, more accurately an second half. It was particularly you know, minutes of the second half. They ripped him apart every time they went forward the could hot themself three or four. They really could. Yeah. Really eventers they shot saga first minute which of sums up how light loss they will terrible. And we thought that you Venice given their experience as Craig reporting showed would have the beating of I action question. They get the goal that they want that. Ultimately were know what you think would would see them through. Then almost seems to do they revert into this. Well, will defend that lead that without we have. And they've done so successful in the past. But this is a team that don't seem to follow that history announcing they haven't read any scripts of lead because they just kind of record. Is that you've had to sit back a little bit so pressure on you. I act simply went to them play the football that got them this five particularly those two ties against Real Madrid. They were simply lethal counterattack with gotten him forward on the way that they always seem to to find a pass a never seen flustered. And and you've enters just couldn't find that that that grasp of the game on after that once you take your foot off an opponent's neck you asking for trouble. And that's exactly what they got. Juventus never showed the intensity that they showed in the second leg against it was never that type of game for Juventus. And it's almost as if they thought well, look the result that we got away from home will be more than enough for us to come home and dumb innate because we are went to because we are at home credit to Alex and credit to the middle of midfield between lots showing vanderbeek. And frankly, the young day dominated a pianist and Emory Chang. And Matt we and I mean, they dominated they destroy those guys. There was no real transition for winter. So whenever they were on their pressure, and they were trying to find an there was no through the midfield. Those guys dominated the midfield. And then the attacking players for not taking place where does but the attacking players for I took over. And so is running all cya is running with the ball narratives running with the ball. They are creating opportunities for themselves for those. In fact, I would go as far as to say overdoing overpass. Passing. When would you think one? Would you have thought that we would be talking about X overpass in engine in their attack in have almost trying to make the perfect rather than taking advantage of the opportunities had they been more effective and more efficient into final third. This is nowhere near to one. This is not this close. And it was not this close over to lake embarrassing for Juventus tremendous work for I XE spring got into the conversation gab who's getting the blame. Well, I think I think it has to be across the board. But I think first of all you have to point to the fact that, you know, for for three of the four halves. Maybe you could argue that these teams were were roughly even. In the second half. I actually will graded them. And I think the guys made a good point. If all you see is the goals that you've is conceded over the two legs. You know, you can go and you can point to an individual mistake in each one tonight. Obviously the defense dot coming up on the header Ghani probably should have done better. But it's all those other chances that I ex either Mr. Chevy made a save or the one where we're pianist just as to make that incredible recovery or tattoo deciding not to shoot when he probably should've buried it. And over passing a really was a tremendous beaked on max legally said, you know, I can point to the mistakes, but when an opponent place, so well, we'll go back, and we'll see what we could have done better. What we should have done better. I agree the midfield struggled. They they talked about lack of leadership. They talked about. The usual things that managers out. I personally think it's an issue with you, which is that. I think we overrate experience and experience is great. But don't we how to play the game? Understanding the game toxically having quality having intensity heavy work rate and putting all those things together on the night that that will Trump experience. Shouldn't forget I started this competition in July of believe I might be wrong. But I think it was the qualifiers this is huge in the Dutch football and the results. No only league, but more importantly as national team. Plus, they're gonna talk to rice they full-strength side the weekend because they Hanser events. As meanwhile, rested key plans you watch that game. And it was you who time and Dion was a big because of injury and only three days rest, so that was huge old nave differences goal and the Dutch league. So the fighting on two fronts. The national teams getting again people league again. And. Goes against those people say, well, unless you could spend the dollars you can't compete because if you make the right signings a few experienced by Ken blend Todd that from about let's be honest who else is they're trying to drag topics from surmounted, and by the way, and both the ban the bail on here. Again. It was amazing. Then you mix the youngsters of commencer and not going to lose the all the well all is no about I don't wanna be negative. But that's just the way it's going to be. So when you can mix much. Good coaching and good convert about come you might not win it, but you can at least compete and put performances on that. Events, of course, out gab. What does this mean for leg ry? Well, max is going to be back next year. In a rare interview the president on Dan Yan Lee came out afterwards. And sort of said reminded everybody about what a great cycle. It's been for you and how the cycle continues. But you know, you really are like a team that kind of you know, put all their chips on red. They went all in when they signed Christiano. They saw Christiana was going to be the missing link. I don't think anybody's gonna point to him and blame him. He certainly did his part. But maybe in so doing they kind of lost sight of that. You know, it's great adding all these experience players by maybe you need to get the balance. Right. And you know, they they added blessed maturity the Aaron Ramsey's gonna come in next year. Just a lot of guys who are sort of in in their late twenties. I think to some degree other players like deba- or Vaske develop especially I don't think they benefited at all from Chris Jonah's arrival because you know, it took responsibility away from. Him. Oh, look, no worries that guys here John all sort, and I think that showed during the season this has been coming event as we see they say there's almost every week you could probably count on one hand the number of games against good opponents where they've played really well this season leading Madrid was one maybe one or two others. But that's it. Title on the back of our Ramsey's, you know, well, find Romsey in a fun of the boys can through with the head end this leg break to come back. Don't deny any be an opportunity free transfer going fail your Bank account fun tastic good scored player. But if you've entered the league as they have, and they see the gap as and kind of signing that making my God. As much as turn hang on this. They've run away with it. This is a disaster. This is. On to that point. I don't think you've done anything different transfer wise that this this last this commission that they've done previously. They continued to add they always added players that just outside. He's only that that is going to appoint. But they've always managed to find system. Undefined the ballots that gobs talking about that that's been lacking on get the job done. Not just not just in Syria. But in Europe as well. And you thought that that Renaldo would be be missing piece. No of a sudden, you kinda realizing that something has to be done differently because this was a poor performance and as much as they relying on spinal well organized, well, Marcia defense defense is getting and it was it was desperately exposed to de against team will willing to run on possible. I feel that that's where the need to start having a look and unholiday plan for the future. Gold fall. Very best Juventus day have at certain toughness about them. They had the talent up top and then attacking players create chances in squirrels. But there's a toughness about them in midfield. That wasn't there today. No. In fact, there was a softness about about them in the midfield a team that allow all this players to run circles around them. You don't see that front Juventus? You don't see that from inventors on a weekly basis and said, he I you don't see that from Juventus certainly temperature sleek and not a distaste champion. So that is something that needs to be addressed the other things that I find that. There are players on the field that might just sealed their fate with the team guy like Bala develop who's given the opportunity to start and given the chance at this stage of the competition and has to be taken out of halftime to put in moist Kim because he has done. Absolutely nothing. Nothing nothing. And so here's a guy that yes, maybe frustrated because his roles has changed with Christina being there. Well, tough tough then fine another way that you can contribute. Certainly not the case today taken off at halftime. And I would not be surprised if this is a sort of player that they move away from inorder to bring something else something different as it pertains to. I that's talented as they are what I would be very concerned about is my good. How do you keep this place because we're not the only ones who were sitting here saying how good they been Monaco again. And so everybody's going to be looking at them and saying, well, we can go after that guy. And we may not get that guy. But we may get that guy, and how how do you compete, and that's much as conveyor Bill to be sitting there thinking we've done too. Well, because now the market is open and the market is open to the big team. So the big names and when they come in. You're gonna listen God is one thing isn't it for the president of come out and say yet, we're gonna have Allegra he will be next season. But if you're in charge would you stick with Allegra? You know what I probably would. I think the worst thing you can do you've chosen a path you have to stick with it. You gave Christiano four years Christiano, isn't there to be part of a rebuild? I feels like he's eternal sometimes. But he really isn't. So you're stuck in this position. Where obviously yes reload you put pieces around him. But you can't say, okay, we're going to have a transition year. Allie mentioned Bala there. It's a great point deba-, though is also the few younger players at you've it. And so the question is logic suggests that he goes, and you shouldn't as much as you can bring somebody else it. But then you've got the probably about the same problems before, you know, you're losing a guy in mid career who you may. Or may not be able to recoup all of a sudden, you know, a lot of key players are looking old. Yeah. Moisture can is there. But what do you do with Maduka? She was going to be thirty three. Collini is thirty four wasn't there tonight. Maybe would have been different with them. Maybe not probably in fact, so it's a tricky situation. My guess is that they're not going to go for rebuild? They're going to try to bring in maybe one or two play addition to Ramsey one or two players who I think they need to be younger. They need to spend money on them if they can and and hope for the best, but they really thought Jonah was the last piece of the puzzle. And obviously it's proven otherwise got they take on over say they can win the title, the we can if they beat fiorentina won't. So the celebration if any will that be how much is this dampening? It's still it's still a title seven to the role. I think though, there is a deeper mood because I think even even the biggest you've offense they look at this. And they know that this team probably well, certainly insignia hasn't played no matter what the numbers say hasn't played as well as as last season. The negative self said all along, you know, we need to play better. We need to dominate teams, blah, blah, blah. It just hasn't happened. Even though they're they're setting records in city are. I think it's going to be a very long very tough last few weeks of the season. And you know, they're going to go into trance market mode little bit like Real Madrid. Where all the conversations going to be about who can who. Can we add who needs to go? Can I extend the champions think? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know Boyce. Thank I don't think we can after you have destroyed Real Madrid on not destroyed, you know, given a lesson to event I don't think we can look at any game even against months, maybe even bossa. Hospice, I suppose. Say oh, they're real underdogs here not not playing. I agree. I think what what you've seen. We've spoken about a lot of from my access Hogabog wing Saudi right lighted tangible passing but the back Charlotte as well against a machine that at home. I thought this really well that you've been champion thing. Not yet. But they can certainly when you think of teams that are live teams that are open at times not just the city, but it's a long day liked to play. Well, so those I XE that both well for them. It's not like they're going to be that team that are going to defend and put all numbers behind the ball. So yeah, it's it's likely, but I'm not betting on they had of course, face the winners of city and Spurs, but for the first time since two thousand ten that will be Champions League semi final without Christiana. Now. SE star of the show was on a cruise pass. And she knighted the Cam. Now, a brace messy. Continue giving balsa eight three nil lead over the premier. I've flown on aggregates. This was done dusted really wasn't messy with an amazing go in front in that second. That was well goes it was done in dusted in the first leg, even though it was only only the most fines of United with think think that just because you got lucky and butters. Okay. They threw got lucky because they made mistakes. And then you get dominated by what the home. Okay. You wouldn't he dominated by west home? Okay. You win. But he expects them to go to the company with us team. And have a quiet game for the second. We can row. I mean, you you unclogged cuckoo on to be that was going to help. But I mean, really off the Gusset it was men against boys. There's nothing unsold scout to be fair on him. He's just an adult. He's punch up by. I think she goes you here with the are. And for those of said, oh, well started will. On what ten minutes, you don't mean. Boss Loda of any other giant's game. So I think is good for the United because beggar their biggest fight is not jump easily. Yeah. Because not good enough. It's the Premier League and trying to talk for which by the way, as real struggle Lynagh messy once again, you look at his numbers this year, forty two games, forty five goals and eighteen assists. Yeah. So when Chris Mullin smashed them and the first leg you thought. Well, maybe there'd be a reaction. Well, there was there was well he got on the ball. And it was danger anytime that he decided to go with a change of pace. I'm telling you Phil Jones still spinning turn them inside outside inside again is between his legs and cut some back. And he's doing whatever he wants whenever he wants to. And when he's playing like that. I don't care. I don't care if it's mine to say, I don't care. What team it is? He's blamed like that. He's owns double. Nobody keeps up with him. And certainly not too soon. I was nowhere near the ball to try to challenge or anybody else on this was again talk about a lesson rubbishing Spain. What I've been. So I'm sure all you can see you can just put a one of those that happens averaging keep regardless of how good you are. And he just picked the worst possible to do it who Deva has been easily in my opinion, much us. Unite is most consistent and best player for for the last three or four seasons. That was just uncharacteristic. It's interesting when you look at that United eleven how many of these players all gotten to be the harbourside it's going to be competing with like Selena in the future because that song. Much. Perty is a lot of mediocre teams. Manchester United what you've been saying. This is not a green Manchester United team by any measure the result against Pierce. She papered over a whole lot of cracks you dominated in both legs against PSE. She as well. But peers PG have a habit over last couple of years shooting themselves in the foot on the do it. Why you come to to the unexpected see is simply be on me. Yes. You started. You started. Well in Paris as well. But Boston didn't make mistakes. Pier. She made on the don't have the history that have in crumbling under under their own self with then as Ali point. So once in a messy gets in this kind of mood is simply nothing that anybody who for Boca do unto nobody in that much, right? As the a lot then they appointed a monitoring, and by the way, again Polk, but my is went and saw next Monday. Blame them poll Popa for the defeat. Again. Nothing for them. And they're going to have to spend millions millions more than anybody else. But the problem is that can Madrid's we spoke about before on your Venice, and is Manchester United going to socia- enough of a poll if you're a big name player when the lights of Madrid eventers courts, and you as well, that's a massive issue for them. If if you have an agent who's with with assault is a who sold you looking at Alexis Sanchez, and again, well, we need to be up in that ballpark. How many of can you afford this new Jesuit very wealthy club? But how many players can you afford to between four and five hundred thousand pounds a week. Let's talk about the reality of mine to say knighted as compared to Celona, and it's an image that we multiple times actually young. He's playing leftback and every time there's a goal score. He's trying to give it come on guys. Let's go. Let's the ball around. You have no chance, and we probably would have done the same thing. Come on guys. Let's let's not the ball around. No chance you still have actually young playing back for you that kind of gives you an idea to sort of team that magic same United is that's compare to Celona. There is just no comparison so boss now through to the semi finals just United out boss await the winners Liverpool poet Ovid as likely to be outside of that to win to win in the I wore a semi final that can be boss. Against Liverpool mentioned the other side of the bracket. I ax away winners of city. Guadiana said ahead of the classroom. Singing, he wants more from the home fans city of favorites. Going into the tie the fund Chino's take one lead going into the anti ad. Meanwhile, more drawn the other game livable thirty three to one onto advance. That's because they beat. Two-nil in the first leg. We'll be sure to join us on the next election. The show will be discussing both of those games of the semi final line. Of course will be set, and it's pretty impressive. So phone. There's one gentleman particular dominates, the back pages, or on this particular on avid hair. Ono this one is. This one is. Picking bullies area. In blowing away the by the time to say blundering, United total. I didn't read that in the proper any other thoughts. It. I think the hair should let us say before it was Buckingham for these next runs of Tokes. Yeah. Because he wants get. Today. We listen, it was a goalkeeper, Nara. But it was only one team those ever going to win that stuff pick it on the goalie. And here's the reason they want really messing. What do you stand on? Whether is the wonderful player asked to win the World Cup. I would just like to see that performance. Steeds right in the old time scale of player. Performance. Okay. You're welcome. Questions about that sufficient extra time shack are not coveted questions. You read knows that say. You're gonna. Welcome in extra time. We'll talk about shack is we later on. Why if we because that's questions amounts? We was spotted Gusta. There's no Craig Burley. He's going to go through the daily. What's it called him? They only wear daily wage he's gone to do that. Way ahead. My zits Zan. I'm very much. He'll sit for the crack is billing. Of this knows its point. Oh, yeah. The end. Thirty two. Oh, okay. That things interesting. How I accident. United of progress Europa league final two years ago, especially when considering the money spent play sold by each club to be reminded that won the two years ago between win against axe. Gob is this interesting view. It is it is in the mean, look the reality is twenty. Stink. Controversy. Yes. He's he's the senior writer. And. Donovan Devika thinker generational players. It's not like you can you can plan them bringing those people through you can't plan on my rally, certainly not something that happened two years ago. This was a team that was progressing, but they also got themselves an absolute stud, I think of a manager in ten hod, whereas you know, three years ago when Richie Europa league final. It was freaking Peter ball's not quite the same thing. So clubs make mistakes club succeed clubs get things. Right. It's obvious that even in the low times, I expert never whenever is bad or never as far away. It's interesting guy who came on. I think is a great example of this. If you remember him, Dr the daily sink, Robin. You know, he was I excess- record signing the seven million for him, which is an enormous amount for x four years ago. He was very young guy was a pro people thought great things about him. And then the guy got injured and hasn't been the same. So we need to sometimes really look at a broader picture when we look a football. But that's the long answer. The short answer is. Yes, I have been better run than matched United Gavin until toss he while. You hate the Licht who you think it's very ever rates in. Wow. No, I don't I think he was thrown into the deep end way too young. And certainly with with the national side. He's obviously lived up to it with with ex. I think they're still a lot more to come for me. And I don't know that athle- he's even as he's quite there yet, he certainly very very strong. But you know. There are some players who why can build tremendous careers without necessarily being Lennick freaks at a young age. Those the should normally get playing time very young ten to be above all tremendous athletes, which is not he's very good athlete. But what he does obviously tremendous football brain. And in terms of technical ability. He's he's right up there on the very best. And he looked very athletic today. The header ahead of a question. I think we had a record number of questions. Oh time. So let's not dwell on them with such long onces poll pumper as being so ineffective in the last few United Shinji nights. Selling now already having unsatisfied plan dressing our next season. Everyone blamed Marino in the policy. The problem. Still remains of the marina did nothing today. Anonymous again. If you get a by anybody, not United restroom decent money ticket because it's going to be long and expensive rebuilding process. United you take what you kind of went on the show awful lot of mediocre, hardwood, you push into it for examples. Again, not very not very, and that's why if I'm to say United. I think about the fact that I don't want talk class down walking out the door because I actually need class down to come through the doors. So I don't need to have one of my more towns guys walk out. And I just don't think because of what he has done and nut done that round. Madrid would be like, yeah. That's how it got. They don't see it out and stick with Madrid. Get a little philosophical does out need Madrid more or does Madrid need renowned. Retrigger knee-jerk melda more. Another need Madrid. Number doesn't need anybody's, right? Does. Everyone people to get in the bowl. We're gonna get the ball with this Madrid team. Same as long as she has Madrid. Same rose. Yes. No it wasn't. It was supposed to change follows by the personnel chair far would say. We'll see successful relationships build on compromise. Is they need this ten years of marriage counseling, so seventeen years of marriage. Thriving by the thrive. Love you. Love you. Do you think the unite could have could have had a chance if Drake took a selfie with messy? Drake's of course. He needed a picture with the whole team. I took a picture of drink years for against. Unbeaten not never been this sense. No, it's gone downhill since shock axe. He will number one team now and you'll power rankings. Boston was to be number one. We have to see what I'm Tamar your another rest about rankings. Do you don't know the rest of your all the play me on? We did answer. We have a halftime segment where we had about thirty seconds fills. So Shaq was struggling and instructing. He said, I asked will be a full to reckon with this. I was I was struggling definitely that was a film that was phila- line. It wasn't separately soul. If this act side gab win the champions going to be bigger achievement than less in the league. Really? But you can answer. Now, don't be won't be because I acts are legitimate team with legitimate stars. And most of all this is this is a knockout competition so entirely different would be tremendous achievement. But not in the Lester, this is what I've learned. He hates delay. And he hates less. Well, I mean, that's what I got. That now to the very main points whole extra time we end with this tweet. Pretty sure I still shocker at the most. A new car so legend alongside that. There was a picture of playing days. There it that touch. I self that you wear that. Really? Gaza kid gloves the home ship. 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Is Pep Guardiola the GOAT? and Super League Talk

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Is Pep Guardiola the GOAT? and Super League Talk

"What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I am your host max Baril, and this is your soccer talk show podcast. Joining me for today's episode the professor is back, stateside will the cats Baril? How are you today? The letter to be here, max. Thank you for having me. You haven't you haven't heard, you know, the per of Willie's sweet voice since our Champions League final recap when he was coming to us from the Netherlands, but he is back in the United States. He is ready. This is your first episode on stoppage-time and its new format. Are you nervous? Are you excited? What's the what's the temperament super excited? Excellent. All right. So before we get into today's topics a little bit of housekeeping, obviously, the show has taken on this new format where trying to build the hype. If you've enjoyed our first two episodes in the new format. If you could give us a five star review on. Apple podcasts, that would really mean the world it helps the show so much. Thank you to those of you who have already done, it bio means you can keep supporting the show through reviews, you can do it on pay pal. You can do it by submitting questions you can engage with the show on Twitter. All of those things are in the show notes on apple podcasts or on our slightly redesigned website, which you can now visit at stoppage-time pod dot com. So our topics today, though are going to be is pep Guardiola. The greatest manager of all time, a model for a Super League. But first, we have a listener submitted questions those of you listen to the show, you can make questions you'd like to have discussed on the show. You can do that at tiny, URL dot com slash stoppage-time, but Tim, or any beat you to it Tim rights, and he wants to know our thoughts Willie on Maurizio. Sorry, going to Jovana. Office. I talked about a little bit about this. I'm gonna let you go first. How do you feel about sorry moving over to Juventus says it does it seem like a fit to you? It's like a benefit, you know, I think sorry was miserable. In London miserable. I mean he got into so many arguments with everybody around him. I mean he had the Koran Davis scene with his goal. I mean you know, I think he he he's leaving with a good record. I mean if you think about it he managed to finish third in the Premier League. He wanted Europa league. And yet, I think I don't think he looked back on his year in London as a pleasant experience. So anything for Syria thing would be better than another year. Chelsea. I. Agree with you there. I do feel like he needs to leave. He, he gets to leave on his own terms with which is something a Chelsea manager. Rarely gets to do. He went you know he won the Europa league. He won his first trophy. I think he finished better than it felt like he finished given the kind of talks ity around him. But I just, I don't see how he fits Juventus. I mean I see he's going to this team which has these superstars. I mean you've got Cristiano Renaldo. You got deba-. You've got men's Zukas. You know you have these players and are they going to play this kind of pressing quick pass soccer that he that? He's so adamant about. I mean that's the one thing that was his downfall of Chelsea, you proved unwilling to budge on his style. And I just don't see the players at Juventus buying in, and that's, that's kind of how I feel at least of all, I don't think, you know, Juventus has going to stand by and watch him. Where a track suit looking like a homeless guy on the side of the pitch. And he's not gonna look good in tailored suit. Let me tell you know, I think that from a fashion point of view. The actually didn't get an upgrade, you know it. It's interesting how this talion coaches are happy to go back to eat the Lee though, you know, I think there's a there are so many role models. I mean, we're going to talk about some of them today, when, when we discuss upward Yola, I'm sure, but, you know, the law DC the five Capello's the Rover Monchy knees. You know they they travel they're successful. But somehow, you know, they yearn there the mother country, and they're happy to go back and, you know, I think you're right. I don't know how you fences fee will will perform. But I think for. Sara himself going by Juventus feels like literally going home. And I do think that, that, that he will be extremely multi baited to the well Juventus is such a powerhouse me on the I think the league is really not all that, challenging for for juventas a little bit of the situation with with peace Jeanne. France, I don't think they they are going to suffer performance wise in, in the league while they're going to be able to win the Champions League with sorry. I'm not sure but for Syria, I think it say a, a vast improvement of his lot. I agree with you, would you this? This. Performance. It's more of a question, Mark. Yeah. I mean you actually kind of set me up with my other point, which is he was an icon of coach with Napoli. I mean this is kind of like a betrayal of his old fans. I mean, you know, to go to Juventus when he was at Napoli for so long pressing them in never winning the title, but coming close, I think it was your Jorgi no Chelsea said that if he goes to Juventus it's going to be a total trail of you know what he built with the fans to me. I agree where I think he probably -absolutely wanted to return to, to Italy. And I swim returning to Napoli's not really an option with Ancelotti, doing well air but I don't know. I mean I see the appeal, but it does feel to me like it doesn't really fit his style. I mean, that team doesn't fit his style, and it feels kind of like an emotional just, you know. Okay. Well. Forget, whatever I did at Napoli. I don't know it feels like a weird move to me. I don't I don't understand. I understand why he would go there. I don't understand why Juventus chose him. I think they could have pursued somebody else that to me makes it would have been too much for them, the coaches that are I think they should've tried to do. I mean, maybe they did and maybe it didn't work out. I think you try and sign Patino. Think so. Yeah. I think he's the kind of coach that could really come in and kind of galvanize the players that are there. He has so much goodwill behind him. I think players do respect him. So I think he could come in and kind of have that respect of the players and kind of mold Juventus into the future, as I say is entirely possible. Tino, had no desire to leave Tottenham. Maybe that's now where he's feeling settled and the future. But I don't know. I just I don't see why sorry is I don't know. It feels to me like he doesn't fit the mold. The truth. Is that those teams ride to Ventoux his G of the top six in the Premier League three or four teams in Spain? You know, you really need to be by your Munich, you really need to be photogenic you need to be charismatic. You actually need to dress up a little bit for the role, you know, it is actually a position that requires looks yet, and charisma. And, and the salary is terrific coach. I'm sure, but he doesn't have a lot of charisma. He building a load of presence with, with the press, and yeah, I mean, I agree with you. It's not the type of match. The you would think Juventus would be looking for. And then, you're, you're right, which Tino is much more into mold of, of Allegra writer, he cuts, a Annella Gant inelegant figure. He he's a lot of fun. He obviously is has the Latin blog, he would actually connect very well with the Bala you know, I think you're right. I mean he might have been a more exciting choice and possibly a better matchup with, with a cultural Juventus. Here's, here's my thought and I, I am not saying it's happening, but I wouldn't be shocked and all that by Christmas time if Juventus aren't in first or a close second place. He's getting fired. Yeah, but I, I mean I can assure you that it will be I, I would say, I would say. Not bullied my you know put a little bit of a fight, but I think all the talian league to me was really on balance this, this season may be was just, you know, a fluke next year. That will be better in there will be more depth. But look what happened in the Champions League. None of the talian teams except for Juventus made it very far and. You know, when they did there were pretty crush of the Europa league, they were also leaving naked very quickly in the knockout phases of, you know, I think it was a very bad year for the talian the city elite. This is what, what, what I. My son says that juventas will win a seri-, no matter who the coaches almost the question is, whether they can have success in Europe, and I don't know exactly is the guy to get them there. Now. I don't know. I doesn't make a good fit to me, but excellent points about the state of Italian football in general. But let's get to our two main topics today. Willie europe. I what was what is your topic? We've already previewed it. But in your words, what's, what is it? You'd like to discuss today. A have follow pep ward euless career with great pleasure, as you know, he has gone from one team to another that I really love and respect in do want to hear your thoughts conversation about whether you know, he, there's no doubt that he's a fantastic coach. Is he the best ever is, is always a sort of a silly question ride because it's so hard to compare across time when the eras in soccer are so different. But I do think that he is definitely one of a handful of coaches that have change the way we think about soccer. So I wanted to have your thoughts conversation around, how good is sped ward, Yola? I think I mean I think he's right there at the very pinnacle of the sport. I don't. I don't particularly like him. I obviously respect what he's accomplished tremendously. I don't I've never, as I say, I've always respected the the way they teams you can't you can't help marvel at how his teams play. But at the same time, I don't enjoy watching his teams play per se. But you I mean when you look at what he did at Barscelona and you say, astounding, what the team was capable of. And, you know, you could try and undercut it by Hedley. No messy. But he's compounded by that what I think of doing something very difficult and going to Germany and then coming here to the Premier League and continuing to dominate and not just dominate. He's really, you know, there was so much skepticism when he went to Byron Munich about his ability to really enforce a style, his style. Could they play like Barcelona and they found that style again? And then then it was when he came to the Premier League. All of that kind of soccer would never work in the Premier League. And sure enough, it worked. Pretty well. And I saw I marvel at his ability to achieve that excellence. I marvel at his ability to really connect with his players to me. That's such a huge thing and you see the way his players. Look up to him. You know how his words resonate with him? How you know, I mean, the, the bonds, he seems to create with his players are tremendous and he's one of those few coaches, which I've been really on this cake lately, where it's like, you know, I think I think, in modern soccer where there's so much focus on. Well can coach in implement the right tactics. And by the right players that fit those tactics. And there's we've almost lost sight of the ability of coach to really make his players better. Do they improve this players? And I think that is frankly, where pep Guardiola might be the best is his ability to make the his players better now you. Yes, he plays for teams with tremendous budgets and they buy fantastic players. But I don't think you can argue that the players he has show market improvement under his care. I don't know what do you think? Just said something very important, and that is understanding who will play well in your system and, you know, he's my sister cities criticized for all the money that they spend but nine Chester United United the last couple of years just to give a reference to team that, that we both know will in love. The to squander so much money. Right. I mean you know, since since of within gal was there they spent close to three hundred fifty million dollars in new players a quarter of going for Pol Pot by. Of a third of that almost going for Alexis Sanchez. I mean, you know, having money to buy players those Amine that you going to do well in what I think we're ULA has done is understood who will play a critical role in the way he wants to play soccer. And then would you said is, I think what makes him so great? Is that he convinces the player about the role that he has to play in his system and the player Bicet and not only buys it, but really embraces it with, with, with great conviction and the changes that you see Bernardo Silva was a player that was extremely accomplish already. But he's thing when the best middle fielders. In Europe, now in the world now. And, you know, I think it's all word y'all s coaching. Sterling remember, she was such a distracted particularly focus. He was of very effective impressive, but in the -ffective forward, now he has become a force to be reckoned with, you know, the way he has actually brought this system of three backs and the people that he had actually that he has recruited for those three bags. I mean I find his ability to identify players that can fulfill the rule. And then find cume that role he does a better than anybody else. Anybody else? And, you know, in this day and age were player sky of much more power than the coach. This is something I wanted to eventually bring up, right? Because. When we say is the best in the world. I think everybody might say, yes, is he the best ever, right? People will say, well, what about Alex Ferguson about surround skirts? You know, and Ferguson thing was a manager of a different era, when, when the coach was much more powerful than the coach today is so in a narrower the players are so ego Centric, they're the real stars. They're divas to have players love their coach and play with the coach style is with conviction. I think is a major achievement. Yeah, I agree with you with any bakes. It does beg the question. Who are those other coaches that are the upper echelon of all time you brought him up. So, I'll I'll advocate for him obvious and tremendously by but ceramics Ferguson to me. I, I don't know. I mean, there's no way to know. Right. But you could almost say all it seems like it's easier. I don't know you maybe make an argument both ways. Is it easier to jump from team to team and spend three or four years? You know, as Gordy Ola seems to be doing or is it easier better or more difficult, to, to do a cer- Alex Ferguson didn't spend, you know, decades at a team crafting it. Rebuilding it over and over again. And maintaining that excellence throughout. I mean, to me, I, I, I have tremendous respect for that, because I think it so you know. Pep Guardiola never really had to change. Generational talent at a team. You know he's never had to you know see one crop of your best players. Leave and really bring in that next crop to take their place. He's always kind of been able to be there, really and craft them really into their peak moment. And I would be in an alternate reality, I would love to see what Guardiola would do if you if you just spent twenty years at Barcelona. Long outlasted messy and see what he would build in that case, I would be fascinated, but your points, I always had such tremendous respect for Alex Ferguson. And she said, you know you couldn't really get away with it now. But at the same time, how did he get away with it, then which was that he said that he refused to have a single player on his team who made more money than he did that he had always said it was extremely important that the coach is the person who makes the most of the team because otherwise, there's that, you know, the, the respect power dynamic falls through, and I remember when Wayne Rooney was renegotiating for a huge new contract, which he finally got he only got it after ceramics. Ferguson. Got a new contract that insured. He would be making more. And, you know, I gotta respect that ends ability to say you know, I know how to keep the power in my court. No. I mean was he fantastic. Coach. I have. No. I mean. Yeah. You can only have respect for his record. You know, there were tool them, by the way, you know, our send anger at arsenal of was much less successful in terms of trophies than that looks Ferguson was, but he stayed what twenty two for three years when two years at arsenal had the tastic season that is still on the way he went on beaten. I think still has the record for most consecutive games without losing almost fifty forty nine you know, he was unbelievable guy that stay again, the longevity was, was impressive that role you know, the. The our sense Bangor's the Alex Ferguson's I don't think we're gonna see many of those again. No. I think the pressure now the media pressure, the number of games that you have to play the, the salaries that the players are now getting is just a very very different game. Very different gaming. I don't I I'm not saying that Ferguson with not be able to be successful today. I just think that the type of record that he build Manchester. United would almost be impossible to recreate today. This much more competition for players. There's before Manchester United, you know, they actually call you. When you jump guards player that was no better place to be today. You know, you're talking about a dozen teams in Europe that are. Are equally attractive to players and, and you know that, that the that world that was so much more for Arkle I think than because it's a peer you know, and I think it's really hard for coaches now to to to stay on top of what they do with burning out now. I'm curious, I agree with you. I don't think it's just the hyper focus. We have weighed the press works today media all of it. I think it all conspires not to mention with what you're saying, just the wealth that spread across so many clubs and all that they're able to achieve I tend to agree with you. I'm curious though, if you have any other coaches that you kind of put up there that maybe challenge at at pep Guardiola. I mean, maybe a little Johann crave. I don't know. Well, I mean, you know, I think, well, first of all, because I don't want to forget, please you criticize. Is the cardigan the pep word Yola war? Last fourteen weeks. I don't know if he Washington between games, but he definitely thought that this was his lucky charm, cardigan. None of you saw today, but the actually auction that for the Manchester City's foundation and an American butter for six thousand pounds. Yep. Yeah. I mean, he really only I think leaves one possibility, which is that this was a ghost buyer buying on behalf of pep Guardiola. You are conspiracy theory kind of guy come on, but it might be true, who would want that Oregon. I mean it's like forget it. Yeah. Well, maybe, you know, it's a site business. I mean, you know, that looked like a forty nine ninety nine kind of guard against Ella for six thousand pretty good thing. Way, if the terms were that I had to wear that card again, the number of times pep Guardiola has worn it, and you paid me six thousand pounds. I'm not sure I would take that offer. Anyway. You know who who is in the league right of worthy all at? And you mentioned the Johan crew for me was really the teacher right? I mean he is really the Gouraud. You'll I think learn this total soccer from. And, you know, he has really push that vision of eleven pleasure players in constant movement, including the goalie, right? The goalie. As a player that needs to have, you know, really good feet is, is part of over the coup refund of vision, but. You know, we need to talk about the villain, the villains, and that's Hussein would e. Right. And. This is another issue, which is interesting. One of your thoughts on it Colson. Woody, new is the thing, the one very successful coach that never play soccer professionally, I he certainly one of them I think including his also is his disciple who haven't heard from since Andre villas, boas. I don't think was a player as well. Know I think that has a lot to do with how players respect you whether you actually suffer on the on the pitch. And you know what it means to really get kicked than get kicked card funeral getting injured than than you know all of what happens on the field. He to me. In order to really be a great coach of anything. Certainly soccer of being a player really matters. I thank. And so, you know for me club Dino. On the you know, Allegra are really great player. I mean great the coaches, you know, there's e-van obviously, as a magnificent player ride would offend tastic player. He was. I don't know if he's a really good coach. You know, he came into Real Madrid as the time when Real Madrid could do most no wrong circling Champions League. I'm curious to see what he's going to do in the next couple of years with this rebuilding of the team. I don't know if I can put see then really on the top list of, of coaches at least not yet, but Wardi all. Ward Yola and you and I have talked about this embarrassments of riches in terms of how great the coaching isn't the Premier League. Right. So if you think of, of the top four five six teams in them in the Premier League all being coached by terrific coaches. What I like the word Yola is just his vision for soccer unite. Thank his little bit stalbur n- or released Auburn. And sometimes, you know, certainly the Champions League in this two game series he's not particularly willing to play defensively to, to play to win by playing ugly. And I think that's a weakness of his, but it's hard to argue max with the fog that were you'll life think has changed. The way we think about sauger and how much she has been imitated across the board. Yeah. I think you're right. I agree with you that it seems to early to really speak to the Don. I agree with you. I do think he kind of was at a point where. Things were very much in his favor. I don't think it's necessarily gonna work out the same way the second time around, but we shall see, you know, it'd be very interesting to see, you know, he's already got some big signings underway. Maybe he will very well prove himself to be a truly outstanding coach, you mentioned enchilada. I have so much respect for Ancelotti. He's a coach that I think, you know, any team would be super lucky to have and then Marino, I think his legacy is very much at this turning points where it's, you know, endanger of kind of going off a cliff, but at the same time you look, you know, he's had such a turbulent last few seasons that it's you forget how much that he's a chief as a coach. And even if it's kind of ugly, and horrendous along the way you can't argue with a lot of those results. And so you say, well, let's see what he does next and that will be fascinating. You know, if he can redeem himself and kind of rea- cheap. We've never felt further. From the special one. So we'll see what he does. His Trumpian in a way, you know, he is really a figure that. Is so driven by media. He is. So a wanted to scandalise people. He wants to get on the people's skin. You know, his guy that understands the media dick impact that coach talking about Sarry earlier ride Marino, is basically the anti feces of a salary, you know marina likes everything about him. And in a way, that is not always pleasant the knife, find that, you know, this this, Colt of his personality. The fact that he wants to be so in your face really detracts from anything else that he goes on the field. You know though he cut off infested season with Chelsea, and he had a fantastic season with Real Madrid every. Thing else around, even when he was at Internacional and, you know, they lead they want everything. I never liked the way he played, you know, he had this couple of enforcers, always in Carlisle, owing bet bay now the always very, very on inspire soccer. With, with a tremendous amount of tendency to file and to this disrupt the play of the all there, rather than really build your own play. I don't know. You know, I think the physicality of the marina teams was impressive was overwhelming, you know. But was not what I would consider pretty soccer, and certainly not a philosophy of soccer, that could in my way of thinking really be that a philosophy of soccer. That would make the game better. So I don't know. You know, the impossible to, to talk about the best coaches without mentioning his name. I don't find him in inspiring figure no, no. And on the flip side. I mean if I if you are the player under Gordy Ola, or a fan of his team's anyone. I mean it's hard for him not to inspire quite a bit of confidence and off just what he's able to accomplish with the sport. So as you say it's impossible to really rank people against each other, especially across eras teams and so many different contexts. But no question he seems to be right up near the tippety top of the managerial world. All right, Willie time for our second topic. And it's something you and I've never really discussed that in death and it's the idea of Super League. This is one of those things that has been making the rounds more and more. Controversially, whether a Super League taking the best domestic teams across Europe and just putting them in a league altogether and removing them from their domestic leagues. Whether that would be a good idea. I'm not particularly interested in advocating that it is a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I think we should continue with the system we have, I think domestic leagues are beautiful saying, I think that local rivalry is spectacular and valuable while I see that, you know it's unfortunate when you have teams win leagues by twenty points or so. Even though Liverpool and Manchester City were in a two horse race this season. I mean it wasn't still thrilling. And you don't still have those, you know, epic relegation battles. So I I'm not an advocate for a Super League. But that doesn't mean that my hypothetical brain doesn't start turning and wondering, well, what might a Super League look like one I'm curious to hear your thoughts on a Super League in general. Whether you think it's a good idea, but I have to pitches for you willy on a structure for a Super League, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts. All right. Are you ready for this? I am ready. I'm thinking, okay. Now again, I'm not gonna say that these are super well thought out or realistic, but they kind of tickle me in a way. They're I'm like, I'd watch that sounds like fun. So here's the general idea. We started off, and we go to the top ten coefficient leagues of Europe which. If you're not familiar or currently, and this is an important part kind of surprising to me, not the top of the list the bottom of the list, the top ten leagues in Europe are currently number one Spain, number two England. Number three, Italy number four Germany, number five, France, number six Russia number seven Portugal. Now, this is where it surprises me a little bit. Number eight is Belgium. Number nine is the Ukraine number ten is Turkey and missing out on the top ten which just generally, shocks me given especially the season. We just had number eleven is the Netherlands, so poor Netherlands. Sorry guys, but let's say we're talking about those top ten teams of Europe. I would say I want the two best teams from each of those leagues. So I want to teams your first and second place team from Spain England. And so on now you've got twenty teams you got a lead to work with. But it brings a little diversity of you know it's not all half English teams half Spanish teams or something. That now in this first model will let me tell you to keep things. Interesting. I'm not so interested in, I think relegation is still vital. You know, you need to have that fear of going and losing out, but three teams that's just doesn't cut it you know, this is this is the Super League. So every season I want ten teams relegated back to their domestic leagues half the league gone half. The league comes in now you're asking me, how are you going to decide is it just the bottom ten no Willie? It's not that simple. I want an added layer in the mix. Okay. The ten teams get relegated or the or the ten teams that finish below their other national counterpart. So if you of the two Spanish teams, whichever team finishes, lower in the table is going back to Spain. And that way you can filter in one new team from each league to fill the void and it always remains to teams per league. I think it adds an ex interesting. Dynamic of local rivalry. Now, of course, you're saying you're gonna face a situation where team might the two English teams might finish first and second in the league. And the second place team is going to get relegated. Yes, they are. And so that's my first, that's my first model. Why don't we take a pause there? What do you think about that one there? Interesting. My only concern is putting the ten best leagues on one playing field because they're not. I mean, you know, for me, the first five that you mention are so superior to the second five. There's really a continuum of quality hearing, there's a real drop ride, and maybe we can actually save Portugal. The Portuguese league and make it a six but, you know, Belgium, Russia and Ukraine. Think are really looting quality, but I want to hear your second your second model, but my first reaction to what you just said, is your idea, low is national team in the Super League going back is brilliant? I like that. That, that's a very smart. Little twist. But I think I would like to see the I would rather have three top teams from the six top leagues for total eighteen row, than and maybe bring on some sort of criteria. Two more teams have a twenty league than than than really give two tickets to, to Belgium, to Dicketts to Russia, to, to your crane. So I really think are from quality point to view in prayer. But let's that, that's my first reaction. I like some of the features that you mentioned think they're very interesting. I don't know if bringing those countries in the top four those leagues into the Super League will make it release super interesting not super enough for you. Okay. Fair enough. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying super enough, not super enough for Willie cats real. I see. We gotta take things up in notch. All right. The next one it might speak a little bit to your concerns. But I like to start from an egalitarian point of view. I don't want people coming in. We create this Super League and they say you know what? This is totally biased. You know, look, there the let's let's pretend the Netherlands, where the tenth ranked team but, you know, look at acts, they made it to the semi-finals of the Champions League wide, aren't we included? So here's my. Here's my model number two Willie. Same beginning premise two teams from the top ten leagues. We got those same twenty teams to start in this model again I like the ten. Team. Relegation it feels right. To me. So every at the end of the season, the bottom ten teams bottom half of the table. Boom, you're gone doesn't matter. Now, you know, doesn't matter where you finish compared to your other nation. If both teams from England finished in the bottom ten boom, you're both gone. Now, the ten teams to replace them or will always be the, the champion of each of the ten domestic leagues now. So you get the taint those same ten leagues reinforcing the, the Super League but only with one team. But what I find so intriguing about this give it a few seasons. And I think we can come to an equilibrium state, which will be fascinating constantly evolving, as to what are really the best teams out there because if the Spanish leagues Spanish teams are always finishing in the top, and never getting relegated. But then they're consistently getting one additional team every season, the Super League is going to start to. Really reflect the power of the domestic leagues. And you might find that the Super League does have five or six Spanish teams in it. I don't know what are your thoughts on this one? Kilifi were six teams from one league. But I do like what are you? I know that, that, that, that's in, in your gene, the galley Teheran kind of guy, but let's just from a place where we're saying that Europe. European teams they all have something to offer. And if you have five or six let's say the two teams finish in the top ten right? I mean so now next season, you're going to have three teams if the three Spanish teams all finished in the top ten you'll now have four Spanish teams. So that's how it would over time. One time. Better because I'm gonna tell you. Let's say that rail Madrid Barcelona are the two Spanish teams and Barcelona, gums in second, right to, to Real Madrid. Not second as in first and second. But in your description, just below Real Madrid's ranking. And so you lose Barcelona in the Super League and you actually keep an Andrew lack from Belgium. I mean, I think that, you know, you're a galley -tarian streak hero, actually is the warring down the luge of quality. I don't think has to be a balance between when you're talking about Superleague. It cannot be Europa league. You're a beleaguered is a geography lesson, right? I mean you go tool. This country said you don't even know existed. Ed, it's okay. It's fun. You know you end up playing but coup and places. Like bed, which might be fun for someone working on TV. But to me, the Super League is not about geography of the reciprocating. It's about getting the best quality teams and if that means that you're going to have in a ten Spanish teams in ten English teams in the Super League, but you have the best twenty teams in the world. That's what happens. And and you know finding a way to multi Baid teams to become the best in the world to be part of the Super League. I think is what makes sense to me, rather than a criterion of geography dispersion in the reciprocating. So I will like bore you know, I go a little bit against your galley -tarian push. And like to be more of an elite kind of selection criteria. So and how does that. How does that evolve from one season to the next? I mean my concern is. I don't think be stagnant. It can't be the same eighteen or twenty teams every season. But and it can't start out. I don't know to me it feels I understand. Yes. The appeal of saying, let's go and get the absolute best teams but to just kind of cherry, pick and say, well, we'll take let's see maybe Juventus, and NOP Alie, and maybe inter-milan from Italy. And then we're going to take, you know, these five teams so we'll take three teams from Italy and five teams from Spain, and five teams from but only two teams from France. It feel so it feels like when you watch kids at the park, and they're like, they're like, you know, I brought the ball so I get to decide and it's like we'll just because you have them, you know, you're really going to face a situation where it's the twenty richest teams in Europe. So why don't we have that be the criteria? How much money you have? That is the thing you know, this is a narrow were, you know, everybody thinks they are above average, like leg begun here. Everybody's smart everybody. Scancen everybody's above average in. That's not the case, right? I mean you're going to have. Teams are above and teams are below average and the Super League to me is about all of the teams that are about average, and it's not fair and clearly the teams are going to make to the top or the teams that most likely are the ones that have the biggest checkbook, you know, my I'm not Super League kind of guy and for the reason why you wanted to mention the risk of the looting the quality of the domestic leagues, but it means the champions leagues goes away, right? You're gonna have the Champions League and the Super League in peril. I don't think that that would happen, isn't it, it wouldn't the Champions League be like the equivalent of the FA Cup. I mean it's just it's, it's been knockout round tournaments that partners the Super League you. I mean, that's, that's a good view. I mean. You know, I always thought that in order to keep some domestic interest the teams in the Super League, we're still play their respective cups in their own countries, is what I mean so that they would steal remain an attachment to where they came from fair. So I thought that the FAA Cobb for the British team for the English seems would be the way to still have a presence locally, but I didn't see the Champions League as apparel but it's a good point. And maybe you know the seeding of the Super League if you want to make it a little bit more on court. Married base should be the sixteen teams that made it to the knockout stages of the Champions League. Interesting. And, and that so you start the league, you know, and so they're the Champions League will take a an even added interest in the will be more interesting for to watch now. You know, could you have actually the Champions League three year and parallel with a Super League you're talking about already right players that are so overloaded? I'm I'm not sure that you can sustain that base. This would be the question where I think it would you know that's the balance where it's like all if you're playing a league competition every week. And if you did the champions as well you're you're playing in the mid week, and how do you how do you properly, train for that marathon, if you will, because that would be, you know how do you balance the fatigue? That would be so interesting. Well, but that's why the rich teams will do so much better right. Because it will have like twenty. Thirty players that are, you know, two hundred and they will just rotated like crazy and the teams that are poor cannot make their now that to me, you make that Super League it will really drain that Super League will attract all of the talent, I think it'd be very hard for a player not to be tempted by Super League presence. Right. So I really think that the Super League will eventually suck up an out all the talent from European leagues and. It will be like a like, yeah I league be in all the domestic leagues. It will be very hard to keep think, and interest. I like her much in your proposal right in your first proposal to make two teams and one that goes back to the National League the next year. But you know, I just think having twenty teams of which ten of them come from countries that I mean country's just leagues that are not particularly powerful. Not all that compelling to, to a Super League. Faye? Conflicted abo- Super League. I think you know, I think the parts of the problems of the premise of Super League. Right. I do think you need a little bit of diversity, and you need a little bit of that culture. Clash, right? I mean you need a team from Turkey playing team from Italy. I mean you know, not to in any way of disrespect to Turkish teams. I mean they've, you know, for they're not heights right now, but they've made deep runs into the Champions League before. But I think in any form of Champions League you need to have tremendous turnover because I think if if the Super League exists, and there's not a very real threat of not being in the Super League, or she me of being in the Super League next season. Players are going to get super apathetic, and you're gonna see the best players in the world start to perform poorly, because it's like, well, you know, so I think you need some sort of system that sees a lot of these teams going back to their domestic leagues and therefore those domestically battles are vital to the next season of who's going onto the Super League and who's coming back and, you know, something along those lines because I do agree that a Super League by itself, kind of its own semi closed off entity that, you know, I don't know gets reevaluated every couple of seasons or something like that is, is not in anyone's best interest in the, but it's again it's I agree with you. It's always really fun to have this, like a Turkish team the talian team. Right. I mean for the fans is phone. It's, it's really interesting. And I get the question is, is a Turkish team. As you said, respect to to the Turkish league. But is the Turkish team sort of a punching bag for everybody else in the league? Right. And so the fact that you're adding some cultural and. Geographic diversity may actually go against the notion of really having the best possible teams. Now what do you do right with a in Ajax like this year? What, what happens to that the what happens when you have a team that exploiting really football and is not in the Super League. How can bad team make it to the Super League? There has to be a mechanism to identify teams like a this year in the Loudon into the Super League. This is what I don't like the Super League has been proposed in L is different models, by the owner of Juventus or the whole no or Florentino Perez, from Real Madrid. It's always based on historic performance. I deserve to be there. Right. Exactly. What happens when you have this upstarts I agree with you? And you know. Fica in Portugal was playing some really, really fun soccer. Also. And what what, how what's mechanism to get teams from again? Respectfully called minor leagues into the Super League. I don't know. And just let importantly, how do you get the teams that are falling flat, but have that historical significance. I mean you look at the idea of a Super League right is the problem is it's being the proponents of it. Are these the clubs themselves? And so they're going to structure it in a way that best protects their interests. But you know if the Super League's listed this season with all your traditional historical powerhouses, and Manchester United finishes bottom of the Super League with realms rid, right behind them, and it's like they're not going to be like, well, we're going, you know, we're out of the Super League next time after we rebuild, but they need to like, you know, if you're not good enough, get outta here, and we'll bring in a team like I actually have been fica whoever that's playing. Ng exciting. Soccer. You know, to me, it's a is, is it really? It would be what is the problem that we're trying to solve right? With the Super League this, this is what I mean. Is this just a concussion that is being invented by the Florentino Perez, the Analia as the, the, you know, the, the Glassman's people that have already very well. Stylish teams in this is a way to milk that name. Right. Or is it really about creating super exciting soccer, right? And part of the Super League conversation, you actually started the very well this conversation by saying, even in the Premier League that everybody thinks is a league where you can lose to any team on any given week. There was not much of a race. Right. So how can you create parody within leagues and to me, rather than spending a lot of money and time creating a Super League? I was spent time and money, creating parody within the Mesic leagues and make the message leagues really much more competitive. And I think that would be fun. You know what, what are some mechanisms that we can actually impose on those Mesic leagues across the board to create greater parody by lifting the quality note by lowering the while it was lifting equality across all teams and making the message competitions super exciting and leaving what I think is a very exciting set of games in the Champions League on touch I like the Champions League. Oh, it's gone. No, I totally agree with you. My fear that you'd have a Super League, you'd get the twenty best teams in the world and you'd have all every week every game is going to be like one one zero zero. You know it's. Just going to be these, like tents tactical battles of knowing. To prove exactly, exactly anyway. So there you go by all means share your thoughts on a Super League, with me at max Baril pods. Or if you have any thoughts you can also submit those at tiny, URL dot com slash stoppage-time willy. How did it feel? I mean, you know, how do you like the new structure of the show? I love it. I just wanted to say that I think you agree with me. The word Yola is the best of all time. I mean I didn't hear you say that. But I think sort of also forbidding the first program of this new format. I think it was terrific. I mean you agree with me for once I think it's terrific Willie. What I'm prepared to agree with you on is that this new format is terrific. And I love to have you on the show. But I think my words spoke for themselves and Guardia LA's, pretty particular participated. So the name of the guy that bought the card again was nod disclose. So I'm wondering if he was really maybe, you know. Now, he was a guy from Maryland's named Sepp Sepp, Lordy, Ola. It was really fun. This is a great format. I hope our listeners appreciated there so much to talk about Iran this fantastic game. The is so exciting. I love the fact that you have reformatted the, the program, so that we can have it all year long. Thanks, a lot indeed from week to week we will be with you and just before we even started recording William, I we're having just a gentle, chat and ready out of that. I think sprung three or four different topic ideas for the sport, we love, you can share your topics with us, again, at tiny, Ural dot com slash stoppage-time. Throw us a five star review on apple podcasts and buying largest keep up with us, share your thoughts at max Baril pods Willie. I thank you very much. And I look forward to hearing what, what next topic you're going to share with us all. Thank you, max. It's a surprise. The suspense is building. But anyway, we will be back with you next week. Another two topics share your topics with us. I cannot wait. But until then, that's the end of stoppage-time.

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Quarter-final Matchday 2 Recap

Stoppage Time: Champions League

34:30 min | 1 year ago

Quarter-final Matchday 2 Recap

"Ah? What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I am your host max Baril, and it's Wednesday. And it's read Ryan's day read. How are you, sir? Good doing. Okay, mac. That's you know, I hear your voice read a certain, I don't know a certain dejection that I kind of feel as well today. I was I was amped obviously, our beloved Manchester playing and I was really actually quite torn, you know, with these with these stacked games. I kind of have one game. That's my main game and one game. That's secondary game and Manchester United Barcelona. It was almost like had to be my main game. But the one I really wanna be watching was I ax Juventus. And I found my is kind of going that direction more and more. But I don't know these games was a frustrating experience in certain ways. And I think I just wanted more fireworks. I'm certainly curious to hear your thoughts. But any any overarching thoughts before we get into it? Kind of. I think this is going to mimic the the last round where the only games kinda start off a little cagey, and then the second round where we're going to see the real real action backs up against the wall. Now, we know these teams know what they need to do in order to progress. You're gonna see some. Some either. Geraldo, ICs were epic failures. Oh, I would be something. At least something to get the the blood pumping Willie on yesterday's show talked about Manchester City in pep Guardiola Guardiola, really viewing these these two legged ties as one hundred eighty minute game instead of two ninety minute games. And that's what today kind of felt like to me where no one was really going for the kill per se except for maybe I axe. But you know, they didn't quite pull it off. But we will get into that right now. How about that? I asked one Juventus one in. I mean, really only had to watch like two minutes of this game on either side of half-time Cristiano Renaldo in the forty fifth minute. No surprising. No one with his hundred and twenty fifth Champions League gold cheeses. But just then you'd probably think Juventus is on their way. It's all done and dusted ho except for our buddy, David. Cnet is from I XE in the forty six minute on the other half of halftime leveled it up, and there would be no break in the scoreline from their finished one one. And I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this one. I was pretty impressed with I x. They took it to Juventus Juventus to me was certainly one of these teams that was kind of playing the two legged game much like city yesterday. The seemed kind of like they were playing for the draw. And that's just I don't know. It's your Juventus go for man, you're playing against this team of twenty one year olds. And I would have liked to see them try and go for it a little more than they did. But but I thought this was still a game with certainly it's exciting moments and I accidentally had their these. But couldn't quite put an exclamation point. On it read what we're thoughts. Yeah. I thought I had the better the chances throughout both have. Dyak VX. He just he looked great. He's really just bloomed in this tournament. I was really impressed by him. I actually generally that they were willing to take more risks playing a little trickier a little bit more open Douglas cost to had a great chance in the very end of the and the end of the game is to feel it for you vent is. But I think that really flatters event when when I act overall where the better team vanderbeek had a great God. Well, and I when that ball would by the replay, you could see all the I act supporters faces just drop I think they all thought that was a guaranteed goal. I think by someone who had a little more maturity, touch maybe would have been but he was a full stretch. So. You know, can't blame him too much for missing that. Yeah. It's almost a an interesting parallel and made me think of Todd itches goal against Real Madrid in their second-leg where he kind of had the ball in a similar position, and he just rocketed up into the left-hand corner and van to be was very close to doing the same thing. I watch the replays of it. And I still think it's gonna go in every time. Even though I'm not doesn't it so close what an opportunity missed Zeke. I mean, he forced a great save from Hsieh's ni curling shot. There's no question. These players are really I mean, they play very well together. And they're so young. I mean, it's really quite something to behold. At the same time. You know, it's kind of what you expect I guess with a certain level of youth and immaturity where you get a little players taking maybe one touch too many. And or putting a little too much on it in a crucial moment like we've already discussed, but they played. Well, my only thought was really in the second half. I thought they started you talked about Douglas cost on his that. Absolutely insane. Bit of footwork and tripling that he did only to have the ball. Just just like an inch wide where it needed to be such a beautiful move. But I felt towards the end where Juventus were pressing a little bit. And it's the first time I really felt like I XE looked nervous where they were like we don't want to go down to one. I felt like I felt a tension in their play at the end of this game that I really haven't seen from them before. Yeah. And I think that one of the. Advantages. I had in this match was that even though you bent, his knows what I acted. Then you know, I had to beat real had to advance to the position in order to face you benches. They still caught I think still caught the Italians off guard or with their pacing with their aggression. Every once you've been to settled into the match they were able to take that advantage away. And I think that kind of became clear like you said as as the nerve set in for Freia acts as they couldn't impose themselves on the game. Like they like they were in the beginning. Yeah. I think that's a good point. You know, I think Juventus it felt like they came out there. Like, we're so organized were so disciplined that we're going to be able to absorb their pressure without too much trouble, and they're going to make them a steak, and we'll counter, and so I actually credit earlier. I mean, they were really dominating possession there. Getting the ball back plenty of time. So this game that Juventus look nervous on the ball in their own half with with aks pressing them, and you see a little bit of that age differential between these two teams. But. I this was this was a frustrating game in that. It was a good game. I thought I XE played. Well, we we saw in that second leg. Let's go Madrid. How good Juventus can be when they are after it. And to you know, it's like, I'm not saying you got to go, you know, dial it up to ten and go all out attack. But this felt a little too reserved for my liking, obviously, I'm sure they'll take that one one tie. They're going to go back to terrain. And you know, I'm curious what kind of display we'll see I hope that. We certainly don't see a all right. Let's let's just be defensive again we have the the away goal. And let's see how it goes. I think I hope that they're smart enough and not era Ghent enough to see how that absolutely didn't work in Real Madrid's favor because I got news for you. I actually going gonna be coming for it next week. And and they are they're not they're not a pushover team like. They are not a team that you can just exploit. They're very good and anything. Found so interesting is that thirty seconds and Rinaldo look like one of the most athletically like dominant players on the planet. You know in the past sprinting from middle field and just diving. I mean, essentially he was unmarked in the box. It was a free header yet happen to do that to still be able to get nothing vision. And and score that goal is so impressive. But he generally looked unimpressive to the rest of the match. I'm I'm curious if they didn't. So you know, he's coming back from from a little bit of an injury a little bit knock. Maybe he's just not, you know, he turned it on what he needed to. But he's not too concerned. He'll turn it on again, the next leg and and stop I act. I don't know. I'm maybe it's an age thing. You can't keep it up for the entire entire ninety minutes. I don't know. It's a good point that goal. Obviously a thing of beauty his ability to find space where you know, is it's become the hallmark of his game. When it really wasn't in his youth. But his ability to find that space get into it and dominate as you say that header so amazing. But there was there was certainly a moment. I can't remember now who it was. But there was a loose ball that went back into the I ax half. And it was Cristiano Renaldo and one of the players probably one of their more central midfielders. I don't know if it was frankly, young or lesser Shona. But it was like I think Cristiano Renaldo was maybe a half step behind. But the ball was going in the direction of the goal and Cristiano it's like he went for it. But he gave up halfway realizing that the player was going to beat him to it. And it was the first time where I was like, oh, man. Like Cristiano Renaldo straight up. Just like, I'm not. Fast enough to outrun this player into this to this ball. And I'm like, I don't think I've really seen that before in a one on one situation where if he had gotten to it he would have had potential breakaway scenario. Now, maybe I'm under over underestimating the the difference between those two players, but from the angle of the that it was showing it looked to me like they were fairly even that in a foot. So essentially in a foot race Rinaldo wasn't prepared to go for it. And maybe maybe as you say he is coming back from bit of an injury. And you got to pick your moments to really turn it on. And he certainly did with the goal. But yeah, I agree with you. There was there were seemed to kind of be conserving it at other times. I'm curious your thoughts on our friend Benton core because I'm not convinced. I don't know they're in the midfield of Juventus. I feel like his spot is ripe for the Aaron Ramsey taking. I agree. I generally don't there couple players that I really think our presses for ventures. I I like Costa a lot. I like the ball, obviously. And shows his show himself be really quite impressive. But I don't know. I think that there is there's a surprising amount of there will be surprising amount of flocks or turnover in the next season for you vendors someplace you just hadn't been convincing especially midfield the defense. So, and I think that there are some places to explain, you know, we talked about this before when new G, and these these guys who are have been stalwarts, but maybe their time is up. Yeah. You need to start bringing in that next generation of elite Italian defenders. Yeah. Yeah. Those apply defenders who won't blame their nineteen year old star. For for provoking racism. Can you believe that? Can you believe that? For those of you know, in the talian league, the young what is he eighteen nineteen year old nineteen nineteen years old striker for Juventus keen that he seems like such a exciting talent. And he's getting racially abused all game, and he scores and kind of goes in, you know. Plant essentially good on him goes implants himself in front of these fans gives them a look of like. Yeah, that's right. And but new bother me look at me look at me, not not doing anything offensive whatsoever and Benicio like lambasting his own player. And mossy mo- Allegra is. Well, also, not really backing them up. I'm like, are you kidding me? Guys. Like, how do you not have his back immediately in that scenario? Anyway, I think you know, embarrassing the wrong word disgraceful disgraceful. You're absolutely right. I, you know, there's a whole like conversation around like, oh like should players and teams like walk off the field in the event of racism and Raheem sterling just said like, oh, I don't I'm not gonna walk off. Like, you know, the best thing I can do win the game. And you know, I don't know. I get it that it was like these games are they all mean so much, but if fee or wafer could actually really back and do more than just say, no to racism, they could actually back team and say, you know, what if a team actually had the nerve to walk off the field because of racism like that's not just a loss. We need to figure out what what happened in that scenario because I absolutely support it you don't get to just be in the fans in like racially abused players and get away with it. No. Like, you don't get to come and see that game. Like it needs to you know, I think. Teams need to stand behind their players. And be like, you know, what we're leaving. I think I think there also needs to be and maybe this isn't the right answer. But I think the start. You know, what gets people to change is when you hit their wallets. If you start getting heavy fines two teams that who's who's fans abuse racially other players or other players other teams. Then suddenly the owners are not going to be protecting the fan. They're gonna be cracking down on the fans of us. But then who knows it might be overreach. It might be might lead to sort of a bad situation in the other in the otherwise. So maybe it's not the perfect way to do it. But I don't know. Yeah. And it was just it was just just don't be don't be an idiot. Don't mean asshole. I mean, it was just Daniel exactly don't be a racist. Yeah. It was just Danny rose. Who was saying that these teams get fine, you know, such poultry amounts that it's like they're not incentivized whatsoever to actually crack down on the situation. Anyway, it's certainly disappointing. And especially, you know, I don't know if if I were if I were this young kid nineteen years old playing Juventus. I'd be like do you guys? Really are you you really have my back. I'm gonna go play somewhere else. Or go play in a country where you don't. Where there's less, unfortunately, there's so much of it throughout, but there are certainly countries with less of it and Italy's not one of those places. But anyway, frustrating to say, the least, but you mention Douglas costs who amazing he came on and deba-, you know, it's like these players are so good. And you just I don't know. It's the Champions League. You should be seeing. All these amazing players. Not just coming on as late substitutes. Yeah. I guess Allegra is just really have the faith and somebody players that we ascribe to them their numbers would say, right. Yeah. I just think he they make them too vulnerable to have these you know, like Douglas, coastal development. Sure how much these players are contributing on the defensive side of things that leaves them too vulnerable. But like come on have some have some confidence in these superstars make give put on show. I wanna fireworks next week read. You know, as you said, I think I think we're in a good position where all pretty much all these games are a little close where teams really have to go for it. My concern is with teams like Tottenham Juventus who's like they have a narrow advantage. How much are they going to lean into that? And try and hold it versus the aggressive. But I don't know I'm hopeful that next week. We we see the the doors get blown off a little bit. I'm going you know, four goals for Porto next week against Liverpool. Fake it exciting. All right. Let's talk radio. Let's talk Manchester your United. They played today. Right. Read. They were playing they played. You know, all the only thing I know about the game. As Scott Makamba is is is the new hero. And he achieved hero status by just being the best wizar-, so great what it takes. But that's our heroes now by by like slyly, avoiding a sliding tackle of Barcelona player wrote his legendary chapter in the menu book. He's a solid a solid six out of ten. That's what gets your written in the whole statue Old Trafford. That's what we think. You know, that's what we like. From our young exciting homegrown talent. Anyway, Barscelona one Manchester United nil, I guess we're lucky it's only that it was a Luke Shaw own goal in the twelve minutes. Although it seemed a little harsh. I feel like Suarez deserve that goal in his own game. Not as Luke Shah own-goal seem like it was probably going on target anyway. But anyway, whatever Barscelona, we'll take it nonetheless. It was. It was a game. That was played read. I don't know. I was frustrated by you, take it away. Manchester United registered no shots on target. You know, I think generally the feeling after the match was. That United were. Oh by feeling was United were held back. Not by what they did, tactically. But the players that OG s had to deploy in the tactics. Okay. Humi out here. I'm listening you always five BAC, and they actually looked. Okay. Shaw. One of the centerback window all who I started to really coming into on under young below who's done a lot of a lot of playing time recently. Look like, you might be something it only nineteen twenty years old. Yeah. Yeah. Somalian who I think when he ended the United career probably this summer. We'll be remembered for the one who led up. L magician? You know? What he's going to be. Yeah. Having terrible hair and a bad goatee and punchy messy in the face. Whatever gets you in the book, you know. I mean, there's no Makamba. Now, I'll tell you that much obviously, the midfield. Fred Mattamy, and PA you know, Fred is, okay. Another player who's coming into his own comedy. Same thing and up top Lashkar, the talking, and we all mess. There was I mean, it was it was just the two of them up top. And you had Ashley young who are who is also playing, but he was more as a wingback. Yeah. But I just don't the players were good enough to really be affected in the system. But the system itself was the right thing to apply the real thing that was so frustrating to watch was the way we Kaku just sort of ground things to a halt. And he his role had been he's had two different two different roles in the system wants to be sort of the backboard, you know, punted up to Kaku. He collected the winner's blast off on the side. And he gets into the winners who them score. But when he's given the role of actually creating from self and creating a goal he can't do it. He seem on a word you seem lackadaisical times. It's just he's sort of is where things die and he just didn't look like he's up to snuff. He he reminds me. More of a Christian Ben tech as a a drug, you know, he's not gonna be that world class striker. And I think that you know agents insane. Oh, you know. Explore is opportunity summer. It's like well good him out and get someone in who can actually be affected in this create a goal there were chances to be had. But yet we didn't have a shot on target. Right. It was very like I came away. Just being extremely appointed. Everyone's like, well, it was a good loss. Like, no was it was actually we could have gotten the point from this. There were a lot of potentially of brushlands defensible looked vulnerable at times. But we just couldn't what it because we didn't have the right players. We don't have the right players. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, you know, whatever staggering amount of money that Manchester United has spent in the last few years. And you're like this is what we've got like really like this is this is it. Yeah. It's it's disheartening to say, the least obviously there's injury issues, but that's the issues. Go much deeper than that. Most certainly I mean like like really really you look at the. The team that played out there today. And you're like, you know, rash verd- is a player who gets the blood pumping to heya had had some amazing saves a world class goalie polka we understand is a world class player. Some of the time. Incredible passes today. Yeah. Absolutely. Really? He looked very good. But you look and you're like I mean, there's three Super League players on this team. And you're like this a lot of random filler, and they just doesn't even make sense to get you know, there's so much rebuilding that needs to happen. And that you that you hope we can kind just turn around are pro to really kind of center on some sort of identity of what we're trying to do what we're actually trying to build and hopefully that we can we can start to do that. I agree that Lindelof has grown on me over time Smalley. I just can't wait to see the leave. About you know, actually, I loved Ashley young. But you know, he's he can't still be a starter for this team. Like know we need to move on and Lukaku, you know. Frankly, it's like to me he's the type of player in an elite team where you're like, man. He's great for those mid-table too low table games when you're playing in the Premier League, but he's not your elite striker to play in the big games. But he's not gonna be happy being that guy. So you know, what are you going to do about that? And. The next leg. Shaw got a yellow card. He's out for the next leg. That means that the bring in Bill Jones or Marcus Rojo, Bill, Joan terrifying. Prospect to bring him in Israel hasn't played since like the Semper and not because injured just because he's not good. So I mean, this was our I think this is our best opportunity to get a point, you know, and people are gonna say, but member PS g last last round like. Yeah. I haven't forgotten. But. The the prospect only because more difficult as and there's no. And there's no question that that even already it seems like, you know, a certain amount of that luster. What seemed like OG new world order is coming into it? You're like now looking back, and you're like, what was that just kind of your typical firing of one coach and bringing in a new one you get a little bit of a bump. Maine says United have stumbled in the league as of late we've lost all three of four or five. I mean either way where now the furthest from the top four we've been in a while. And so that's you know, it's like you don't really I take solace in a couple of things read. Here's the things. I take solace in one. If Phil Jones plays were getting goals. They're going to be own goals. But we're going to get some goals. And you know, what I'm just want some goals at this point. We're going to get some shots on target. There's going to be on our own target by our own players. That's one to you know, you gotta love to hate his feet. I mean, some really fantastic saves today. At least that got something to be excited about three. And this is the key read. This is the key to it all just think of the the low that low feeling we had when we got drawn against PS G, and we were just like. Howie like we're going to get mauled mauled read, and I'm feeling some of that lowness again. So maybe it means that were we got another miracle up our sleeve, you know, boom, two goals out there in in Barcelona land, and, you know, take it home baby enthusiasm gotta have something. Got. If Manchester United make it to the semi finals of the Champions League it is. Well, it's something let me tell you. But you're you're so right that Barscelona, and you know, pundits around all round have been saying it in the build up, which is that Barcelona have looked vulnerable on the counter vulnerable on the counter attack specifically. And so it was always like, well, if you can somehow slowdown there attack and counter than you know, maybe you get something out of it. And you're like, well, Manchester United actually kinda built for a good counter. With rash Richard and Marcial and these players, you know, what we did as g we only had what somehow three shots and they were all goals. And you're like well, all right. And as you say then when the opportunity comes in you just squander not even a single shot on goal. It's so like man you had to every player on every player. Manchester. United had to have known that that was their chance. Right. It's the counter attack. You gotta put it all in on that on that. And then just like not even close. Coutinho struggles continue Soir as I like Suarez reaction. Suarez. I liked his goal his celebration. Because there was a VAR check on his goal. And he he looked pretty genuinely surprised that his goal stood. Who will take golden stand shows? You're right. Shaw's goal stood or guy. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, it's I mean, it's like Manchester United or out of it. And I take a certain amount of solace. Also in the fact that it was Gerard PK leading up to this game. Saying that you know, we gotta just we got end it. Now, we got a score so many goals against Manchester United that that they're just completely out of it, which frankly in its own way shows the level of disrespect that match on the one hand, it's a compliment. It was like let's just put them out of their misery now. We're going to somehow score like four goals. And that's like an achievable idea that sucks, but we didn't they didn't do it. They didn't put us out of our misery. So our misery continues to be. It's. Domestic people over top run a game. It's just generally, you know, five whatever five games left totally between Champions League and domestic league. It's a squeaky bump time he bumped on squeeze squeaky squeaky read, any final thoughts on Manchester United against Barcelona. No. I mean. No, real thoughts. Other than I'm curious to see whether or not. Oh, the magic magic. You think we can do it? You think it's going to happen? We'll back you heard it here. First on stoppage-time. We're bold with the predictions. I also I mean, I think it's probably worth going back. Just to think about our where we currently stand read in terms of your predictions. You've predicted Porto. That's looking solid. I think. Kinda about you you predicted city, and it's currently advantage Tottenham just taking this opportunity since we don't actually know the results to make you feel a little just like questioning your your own instincts. We're not gonna talk about my been bore competent. Well, frankly, you did predict Barscelona guy over here we're going through. I just wanted to remind you of your Porto prediction that was really bellows. Fellows, not over yet. You're right. You're right. You never know you never know epic collapse. Baby. Maybe sorry it's gonna so humble Liverpool this weekend. They're not going to know what to do with themselves and going to question, they're very being could be could be could be could be it could be that. Eddin hazard goes toe to toe with Virgil Van Dyke headbutts right in the groin, and then dike is out for the return leg. And then Liverpool. Start leaking goals again. You know, I'm not saying he should do it. I'm just saying it might happen. Anyway, goal of the day read. Ryan, I feel like there's for me only one real option. And it's that David netted goal, which was actually pretty pretty fantastic. But can argument for Cristiano Renaldo and his leaping header? I'm gonna go with the go. On the same page. All right. Save of the day. Read. Where? Chesney Hsieh's ni get outta here. To hail all the way with those feet that's shot against Coutihno low ball to the ground or forget, it the messy free kick that got to flecked it in the wall and went back the other way, and you kind of felt like the ham might somehow not make it back in time. Even though it was like moving real slowly, he got there heya we'll champion. I mean, he's not. Hale second day. Oh, yeah. There's actually some pretty good saves all around. I feel like not ahead. An Icee Hsieh's ni pretty much everyone except to stay in who had to do. Nothing. One thing. Well, that's all it takes. Anyway, I don't know. It was a frustrating day. I hope next week with when players when these teams actually feel the heat of elimination that we're gonna see quarterfinals have such kind of a reputation for explosive games versus semifinals, which tend to be far more cagey. And I hope we get some of that explosiveness next week. I agree. Well, read we'll be talking about it. Of course, next Wednesday. We'll get to talk about the flip side and see who goes through with city and Tottenham Porto and Liverpool. We'll get to talk about your epic prediction read which was Porto winning. So when they go and score those four five goals. We will sing your praises. Morongo. Bad. Moraga fever, his his four goals next week is what's going to seal the deal that United by him in a straight trade for Lukaku? I would do it. Goodness, gracious, read. Well, it's always been fun. But I hope we have even more fun next week. Well, you only have to wait until next Tuesday. We got no weeks off which is a specially exciting finish up quarterfinals next week in the semi-finals start at the end of April, which is fantastic things are moving at a clip by means tweet EMMY at maks Baril pods. If you're enjoying the show and you'd like to kind of buy a coffee or help keep the lights on in the Mike's rolling. 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Round of 16 Matchday 4 Recap

Stoppage Time: Champions League

46:23 min | 1 year ago

Round of 16 Matchday 4 Recap

"Ah? What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I am your host next Baril read Ryan back on the show read. How's it going? Things are great max, you know, it's good to be in the knockout rounds actually seen some action while the the real games have started the real Champions League. Today was not a letdown at all it was quite exciting. Big change from yesterday. You know, tons of drama. Lots of goals rate day. Yes, I think we'll have no shortage of things to discuss today. Not to trash yesterday. I thoroughly enjoyed yesterday's games. But no question a slew of goals a little bit of VAR controversy. Some some ex- saliva just just cool of it. It's a podcasters dream is really what it is read. And here we are ready to break it all down which game you want to start with. Let's start with Mitchelson. Let's start with city read. I thought you were a profit for a second. It was looking real good. But but sadly, not the game. Finish, of course. Manchester City three Schulkin to that scoreline alone is probably surprising, but it opened in the eighteenth minute with our old friend, the platinum blonde Hyo Aguayo in the the eighteenth minute. But. A double of penalties for Bente lab in the thirty eighth and the forty fifth gave shock the lead. Things were looking even better when nNcholas Otamendi got a red card in the sixty eighth minute for his second yellow, but a LeRoy sonic free kick in the eighty fifth and then of all people Mr. clutch Raheem, sterling in the ninetieth minute gives city the win. What a game. I think obviously, I'm excited here thoughts, but to one show at halftime on the one hand, you're like, wow city, maybe this isn't their thing. But at the same time you really had to say like well shock, we're fortunate. They got two penalties or they really going to be able to hold on. And I feel like most people watching said the hammer's coming in the second half. And it did. And it did there were it looked like mentioned city could have scored. Two or three goals in the first half the ton of shots. They generally just looked the better team. Go back to that. First goal. They were actually lucky to get that goal. Shocker were sloppy one of the shock players was down. And I think every everyone on the on the show aside thought that there was going to be some sort of whistle blow or a stoppage of play and sloppily the goalkeeper's pass it out to the defense and resulted in a, you know, a just a killer instinct goal by Manchester City, you can't do that against Manchester City. They will take advantage of you in Shulga they'll victim there. But they were really were four fortunate to get those two penalty calls thought the first one was a reasonable call. It was it was it was a handball. I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a handball. The second one was I thought pretty soft. When you think about it, technically, the someone chasing a header from a free kick or across could fall like that under their own volition anytime. I think that call is is of a toss up every time. So I wasn't to impress with the decision there, but Bente crush at home both times. So so so bully on him for doing that. I mean, it's a high pressure situation to to to square. Those penalties was impressive. I don't know. What what we thought? Max, I think it was a player of Fernan Dino's experience level kind of just needs to know a little better. I'm I agree with you in the sense that so much pushing and grabbing goes along on in the box in those kind of situations that it is often a toss up, and there's probably really frankly a million penalty calls that just go on called because it's a physical game. But fern India to me he was behind McKinney. And did have it seems like both arms enough around him that I'm pretty forgiving of it. It seemed kind of like a he was caught out of position and didn't have really another option in him. So to me I felt like it was a penalty. Not that. It couldn't have like I said it's toss up you thought. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I I wasn't. I didn't necessarily begrudge them Bente Lebas. You said clutch on the penalties. I mean, it seemed like broke Edison's hand off on that. You know, very very impressive. But I agree with you one hundred percent, which is that Schulkin switched off in key moments. And you can do that in the champions. Obviously that first goal with the goalie all the credit in the world, David Silva with that, you know, capitalizing charging in and getting that ball and then play an excellent passed away at that point wide open guero. But I mean, you haven't heard a whistle a professional right like to just pay that play that lazy ball. Out of out of the back. It was that was a mistake that I think deserved to be capitalized on. And then the last goal was sterling again where you have players being dispossessed in their own half. And then again, just some like some pretty sloppy. I appreciate sterling's kind of quick I touch finish. But at the same time, you kind of wonder like where was far minutes. He like you shoulda shoulda got one. But anyway, it was it was a cheeky finish their quick. But it seemed like a Goldie of Champions League caliber should have saved at the same time. Agreed. I think generally show like the scoreline flatter shock even in a loss. And I think you know, they're gonna come away from this. Being disappointed. They couldn't hold onto the to draw. But at the same time this is three away goals for city. How I mean, they're not only do they win. But there are sitting pretty for the return leg to add. Three away goals is a tough mountain to climb for shabas. So. See my I don't have a lot of faith that they're going to be able to to overcome this. Yeah. You give you give up three away goals. And you're thinking Schulkin now have to go to as you say go to as hot and win two nil. Not impossible, but a tough task at the same time, and I not so much for this. Because I think city have it in hand, but city have been sloppy in this Champions League. And probably grew pep Guardiola has said, you know, I think after the game this city team is still not ready to win the Champions League. And I think that's a lot of coaches classic. I agree. There is a quality. I think they certainly most certainly can win the championship. I'm not saying that, but they need to be as focused as they are through in the clutch moments. And this is another great comeback. And that counts for a lot being able to show that grit in at metal. But it ninety minutes you need to be fully focused or really actually one hundred eighty minutes. And you think that these are all two legged ties, and you really can't switch off you see how quickly and you're playing against shock right now giving up two goals. What happens when you're going to now go face the more elite competition. No disrespect to shelter. And we've seen it in the group stage. Even though they finished up. They gave up a lot of kind of cheap goals and those those elite teams don't have those mental mistakes. At least wore few and far between. Yeah. Think Shoka is. They're not played very well domestically. They're sitting in the middle of the table bonus Lita, they're just they're not particularly impressive team at the moment. And the fact that this is the score on. I'm sure they were up for this this match, you know, they might not be in the Champions League next year. So I wanna doesn't seem like it. Really want to rebel in opportunity be here in show themselves, but still Manchester City if they're going to challenge for the for the title, they need to Schorr things up other red card by amend any was sloppy than not that was so sloppy. I take actually great pleasure in anytime. Otamendi gets sent off in. I don't I don't think he's particularly up to up to snuff for for Assad like Mitch city. He keeps getting run outs. He keeps making fools himself. He he almost has Phil Jones as quality of like everything. He does is just comically. Yeah. I find him incredibly unlikable. And so. I always rooting for a red card and the good thing is he's never far away from one. So I feel like I have fifty fifty odds and getting the joy of autumn Andy red card in in any one particular game a few particular shoutouts one on the shell Cus. I I mean, we already talked about Bentiu lead very clutch finishes. But I'm you know, you gotta be impressed with western McKinney. So young look great getting on the big stage to think that it's not just Christian pulisic who's getting big game. Run outs is heartening for the United States. And I think he's a very promising talented young player. So I I hope he keeps keeps it up because it's give props to the to the b or live team at halftime, you know, really focusing on McKinney and the whole commentary team or the halftime set team is is American stars. And. Of course, they're going to have a little bit of bias towards McKinney. But they did a good job of actually analyzing his his play in showing some some nice. Mouzzam nice movement and so much traffic back that he did. So. Yeah, props that property young American. Indeed. And while this does not bring the tremendous joy to say credits. Recchi's sterling and the job that pep Guardiola is doing with this guy because you know, this was a player who was just nothing, but misses, you know, obviously, tremendous speed and get into great positions. And then just didn't have that final, touch, and he's really becoming a super clutch player for city and. Just from a personal growth player growth standpoint. It seems like Guardiola has really kind of gotten to him, and it's impressive to see and city in general some of their just their passing build up play. It's I mean, it's quite impressive at times to watch. And it's it's daunting to think about them making a run into this tournament. One of the criticisms this year for city is that their team is a little bit older Fernan Deniau Silva, even Guerra a lot of these on their key players company is engine to the end of their prime sort of the next they're gonna be there's gonna be there's gonna need to be a refresh of the squad at some point. But he think about the fact that debris us sterling these guys are actually just entering or about to peek into their prime so city, they're set up to sort of embrace this next generation of stars sauna squint that criminal freak. He's let nineteen twenty years old. He's he's not even to the point where you talk about him reaching his full attention at. So that's a great Pab while the while they do some of their talismans of the past five six years are going to be phased out city are are very well set up to sort of. Reach that next generation continued continue on with the current system in the current form. They they've been in. So I'm upset about it. Yeah. No, it's depressing. But they do have kind of that potential sweet spot of balance between youth and experiences. You say Sante, I totally agree with you that he is just starting to reach the real upswing of his potential, and it's a scary thought unto itself, and and yet you say players like Fernandina individ silver are going to start to phase out in the in the coming seasons, but you have players like Gundi Guan and Gabrielle Zeus for guero. You see that next generation? And obviously city also have the funds to make any key purchases necessary. It's incredible. Like gonna go on is the bench player. Gabrielle Zeus is kind of has because it really usurped guero as starting striker in these guys would start for you know, ninety percent of the teams in the league United teams team's Champions League. So it's their depth is just on paralleled. Yes. Absolutely. You know, not to mention pep Guardiola right before their FA Cup match over the weekend said just gave an outright apology to Riyadh. Mar is saying the guy's amazing. And I just we're ju- other players are playing extremely well. And it's just hard to him to get a spot. So. Yeah. Dovid Silva's still great. And when he starts to maybe it's his time is is nearing its end. You've got Marez there to step in. It's great. Things are looking good in the blue half of Manchester, but we won't dwell on that we'll be singing the right song when Manchester United win three nil in the second leg in Paris. But just just just wrap this one up. I it's important for Manchester City to keep a clean sheet in the next leg. I think that they want to you know, they're sitting pretty right now. But I think that they really will need to show that they can eliminate some of these mistakes. And Secondly again shock where stronger gonna be attacking at least trying to put some attacks together. Come after city to score this away goals. Get a win. It'll be important for for city to sort of show that they can stay structurally sound and nominee mistakes. They don't want anymore yellows anymore reds going into the next the next round after this. So it's while it doesn't look like they're going to they're not a threat that they will. They will not progress. There are these sort of little things in the need to worry about keeping their form. And especially cards in crunches important cards are important as you mentioned, though, if it almost I think in the neck. Leg is going to play right into cities hands and that shelter are going to need to attack. And I think Manchester City are going to just pick them apart, which is in can be misleading to them if they end up winning the next game three nil because Xiaosha or attacking them. And it's not Representative of what they're going to face against a resolute defending team. That's going to say. All right. We're going to absorb your pressure. And we're gonna pick those moments to attack when you're when you're guys have pressed up high of the field. And now, it's awesome. Andy on that back line having to make that last tackle. That's when they make these mistakes. So we'll see, but I agree with you this next leg will allow them to kind of try and work out some of the kinks, speaking of teams like to defend resolutely mantis in athletic dribble. Shocker shockers. Let's go Madrid to Juventus nil goal. The first goal from Jose Jimenez. Says in the seventy minute and Diego. Go dean in the eighty third. I mean, you couldn't ask for more apropos to men to score your goals to think that like these guys are battling it out. And they also get to be the ones to to get the glory on the other end. I mean while but what a game this not totally similar. But this reminded me a lot of yesterday of Liverpool against Byron Munich of one team pressing higher the other team trying to absorb and counter, and where Liverpool just weren't able to capitalize. Let's go Madrid to their credit. They did it. And I'm excited to talk about how. So what did you think? This was actually very impressive. Performance by Madrid? The the first half a lot of back and forth. Rinaldo had that great opportunity. The free kick beauty within after that it really in the second half. He was invisible. Yet a couple of don't even not really I wouldn't call them. Good opportunities yet had a header in the end that was just a little bit out of his reach in the had the ball in his at his feet a couple of times, but was just shut down by the defensive Madrid. You could tell he was getting very frustrated when he flashed the five. At a at the at the Madrid Madrid folks yet, it was just him just saying, no your place. Exactly. Like don't come at the champ. But guess what they weren't afraid to come at the champ. And it was perfect. Yeah. The shutdown Bala. Really just looked commanding defense. It was impressive. Yeah. I mean, the first half as you said very exciting. We had those kind of competing free kicks from Rinaldo in grease Mun both were near get it. Right. Grysman? Mom mon- apologies. But Ronaldo's free kick so close great safe from all block, grease Mun powerful and quick save by Hsieh's. Ni Hsieh's ni had a very strong. I mean, also the save on goody as months chip attempt. And that was that was incredible. I completely thought that was going to. Cross it a you know trying to cross a face at goal. And I think everyone else thought he'd into in the fact that he was aware enough to to make that save. I thought was incredibly impressive. What a save and what a clearance by key Alenia. It came off the crossbar back. You know? Kind of defensive clearance. And I really thought I was like all right Juventus. They don't look to trouble. They're not getting quite as much going offense of -ly. But they looked calm enough. I thought, but as you said Deborrah, totally frustrated and kind of taken out of the game. And he is to he needs to be too much of a crucial player for Juventus to be to be removed like that he needs to be that kind of that key link in the that, creative spark, and he had some poor touches and seem to kind of get frustrated very quickly and Rinaldo as you said a few moments, but nothing too much and with that men's Zukas doesn't get any any any service. I think merely piano given apparently that he has the start of the flu but was passionate about playing. That's great. You wanna see that passion? But maybe he play. Played a little too long. Ember whatever it Sean on for him. Emmer Chon came on. And then burn desk also came on. Not remember, I don't remember exactly which one came on. I thought I think China Sean, just like played like, yeah. He played a little bit deeper, and he wasn't providing that link to the to the forwards that you would hope. A substitute would have the spark a substitute would've brought in this. This this match really pointed out to me that her made evident the whole in the second half. After the second goal. The commentators kept saying now, this is where you need a player like Messier Rinaldo to come up with something make a little bit of magic happen. Luckily, you let us have Renaldo, but Rinaldo didn't make anything happen. He's I think he's at the stage of his career where he needs service. He he's not going to pick up the ball at the at the halfway yet wine or it is own hathen and have a history crazy run a little bit of individual brilliant sees transformed this player that need service either in or near the box. And maybe he can you know, have that fast twitch, either reaction or two. Get, you know, get a defender off their off balance in again shot in. But he's just not the same player that he wasn't. He's not he's at the state player messy still is. I also I you know, I'd contend that idea. All you just need a Rinaldo or a messy for in this situation that even Rinaldo in his prime even messy in his prime. Just look at Ronaldo's early career with Portugal, right? Like, even then if you don't have other players to really create and distract players. It doesn't work if it's just you. You can be the best player in the world. And it's you're still facing a whole defense by yourself, and yes messy and Renaldo years ago head trauma, and they both obviously still have tremendous success, but not playing for Real Madrid and messy for Barcelona. They have other threats. It's not just that one player and today a little too much of just Rinaldo again. Then you expect a little bit more from Juventus as I say with a player like Deborrah, I would've liked to see Bernadette sqi earlier in the game because he can be creative player like that. Even Tweety can be when he pushes further up today. Just wasn't that kind of a day for him. I was also surprised by how sloppy. Nucci Leany seemed in the in the back. Exemplified mainly by the fact that the coast doodle Kosta got a couple of really. Cut them in the off side travel. Not guess wouldn't catch them, but broke their off-side trap pretty easily couple times. If it wasn't for the fact that he hasn't really gotten a match since December because he's been. You know, had his has an injury issues. But. He met maybe would have scored another. I don't think. I don't think Ruutel miss. There's not a single person. Who was watching the game who didn't think Diego Auster was one hundred percent for sure gonna score one on one with the keeper sidefooting into the right? And there's no question that rustiness. But I think we we can't go the fat killing but Nucci two of the world's best defenders at one point. But these these guys are getting old. The Vic Ferdinand total the end executives guys. Are these guys are good? And they they're they're smart in that they know where to be physically might not be able to hack it anymore. Exactly. And you know, it just takes that one time that you they catch him a little off guard, and they don't you say, they don't have necessarily the athleticism anymore to to make up for a slight mistake and play that that Diego. Kosta running running down the middle pitch into stiff arms vent. This defenders like marshawn Lynch, Ian. It was fantastic. It was great. It was great. And to be perfectly honest. I was shoes when cost got his yellowcard. And then on the like almost immediately got like really passionate with the wrath not yellow he's getting a red card. We're seeing a red card in the first five minutes of this guy. Game. And that's going to be fantastic because I know love for cost. But he I think he played quite admirably for having been injured so much taking off was probably the right thing. I wanna talk about injury. Sorry substitution. Obviously, we still have a lot of our controversy to discuss in this game in particular. Let's let's say the VAR for a second. I said on yesterday's episode. I was a little critical of our friend you're Klopp for his substitution. I think he was a little defensive a little cautious with his substitutions. And I said that if Liverpool managed to beat Byron in the in this tie going forward. It's going to be because of our friend the cube judge Shaquille. And is the power the power cube. Of course to me. I think all the credit to Simi Oni. He went at it with his substitution in the second half. He brings on. Unhook Correa Thomas. Lamar olver. Oh murata. And I mean you. Those are the three most offensive substitution Zhi could make. And he said, you know, I have great players on the bench, and maybe they can help do this. And we're going to go for it where at home. I don't wanna go zero zero back to back to Taran. You know, let's go for it. And I think it paid off in a huge way. Obviously Murata thought he had scored mere minutes after coming on which I think segues nicely into VAR controversy land read, so more oughta goes up for a header thinks he scored it. I mean this pork hid I feel like he's there. He's like the weight of Chelsea is off my shoulders. I'm a scoring machine. Again. Let's get it on. And then they ripped it from him. They ripped it from him. This one. He pushed over at old then. Tilted reviews L. Yeah. Actually. Sedonia Brigham Murata was could be seen as someone controversial Maradas than so out of form. Over the past since moved to Chelsea's not looked particularly confident. But as soon as he got on the pitch he was. Finding space and it looked really good as evidenced by. What should have been a goal? That was that was the worst. That was the way that the VAR was evaluated year reminds me of everything I hate about instant replay reviews. It reminds me of how instant replays used in American football where if you slow down anything slow enough, it can look like a foul. There was some touching in this in this interaction from between Murata but duty, but like we said before with the penalty in the shock immensity match. There's always gonna be a little bit of contact in the boss. You slow it down slow enough. It looks like he's you know, assaulting Bonaiuti. But guess what? He's just he has his hands on him. But that's that's typical. Let's and happens a lot the first the first few replays. They were showing which were frustrating because it was like the replay was mostly you know, across and not the actual part of the action. And you're saying like, I don't even there's nothing there's nothing here guys. And then they found that one little VAR. Can that was like on a go pro from the other end of the field? You know? And it was. Yeah. You as you say, you slow it real down real slow, and it looks like our friend Murata's just like hammered Kia Leany in the the square of the back and in just the dirtiest way possible. And you say like you, and it seemed like, you know, given the you could see TV that the reference to go us with his VAR. And that was the only camera he was using. And he's like what you've got to. At least pair it with the other ones that show at a slightly faster pace, the momentum of action. How really there's no no contact whatsoever. And they everything is regular speed until they slow down the moment of contact. Right. So it just makes it look even worse as. It's that's tough. That's a tough. Decision. They're exactly. And so it was frustrating. Because as soon as they showed that other cameras they're going to he's going to give it he's going to take the goal away. Because it looks like he's pushing him in the back. But as you say, I think you have to keep the greater context and say like, you know, you can't expect players not to ever touch each other. And that is not a push by any means by any grew. So I think Murata I felt badly for him. I felt. Badly for him doubly after he meant as scored because it was like the camera seem to find this like loan more Mata like just being like, oh, like, I'm real happy. My teammates scored maybe one of these days. I'll score to like I thought I'd did. But I guess not like, you know, just like, oh, God guy is just like totally jinxed. But it brings us around to the second. Evaluation which was the first first actual goal for Madrid. It was only a few minutes later that Jimenez scored and that that situation was seemed like it was a little bit under review as well. They certainly showed enough replace of it to see whether he had pushed Benicio in the back. And this is the slimy side of the sport re let me tell you because we're talking about like these to these two players keeling anybody who I have nothing but respect in terms of their abilities defenders really because they're both tremendous defenders. But to me, this was bolt in both situations defender realizing they've been caught out and trying to act out a situation to justify it and fool the ref because I am sorry key Leany, you know, at least he did get pushed in the back to some minimal degree. And I'm sorry. But like. No, you can't both pretend to be an elite. Blockade of defender, and then have a wisp of touching. And then you go down crying or like fling yourself forward. So that's already pushing it. But I'm sorry rewatch. These highlight of Jimenez jumping over Benicio, and you see Benicio go down you see him holding one side of his head, and he turns and watches everything take place. He's just turned around. And he's watching him in is he's watching he's watching and then Jimenez scores, and then he decides to rollover pain, and like digging his face into the grass, and it is in fury, aiding give the man simulation. Yellow? Like, I'm sorry so blatant that you watch this. And you're like he's just watching realizing that he's at fault really for this situation. And now tries to compensate at least good enough actor. You commit beforehand. He's like Vigo board sit in the green book, just awful. So I'm not imagining that read you saw the same thing. Absolutely. Yeah. He does the whole half peak. And then once he realizes things are going the way he closed back up and rolls on the ground. It's just it's embarrassing. It was embarrassing. Exactly. Right, man. So frustrating, anyway, the the gods the soccer God's answered the injustice earlier, and you know, Simione owning with the aggressive almost to the code is over. That's not family friendly at all. Lucky? He's still wearing all his clothes. But yes, and then go dean in the eighty third with doubling the lead and right in the face of Rinaldo right in the face of Renault's. Just perfect. He Rinaldo if although it stood for he probably would have prevented the goal, but he turned his body at the last minute and. Just slipped by right by him and into the goal. Yeah. Yeah. There you go poetic Justice, some might say some might say. Ranaldo had a a nice free. Kick chance at the end there. He passed it off to Bernadette Bernadette sqi great shop at right at. At oh blocker. So that didn't work out, and let's co Madrid go now with a solid solid lead. And for such a defensive powerhouse. I mean, I gotta say I think let's rid have what it takes to hold onto it. No. There's going to be no Diego Costa for the for the next round. He's. Rod has got some some time to sort of work himself into the team. Yeah. Thomas Thomas is also out for the for the next Brown. I believe, but I don't think I don't think either of those are end of the world situations, especially Thomas data cost a loss. But you know, when you think that they don't really need the goals and can be more true to their defensive selves. I think they're in a strong position. What do you think? I agree wholeheartedly. I think that this is going to be one of if not being most. Hotly. Contested matches of the of the next second round of second legs here. This chippy I need to progress. The only reason they brought Rinaldo in besides like the commercial revenue through search short sales and stuff in is to win the Champions League they've gotten so close with has couple years. And this is there have a PS g mentality where they're here to win. This this comment tournament, they're fine the domestically. Nice. But we're here to win the Champions League. They certainly did bring in Cristiano Renaldo to go out in the round of sixteen. I'll tell you that much not I think he would be embarrassed. Oh, he is going to be. I mean, it'll be a huge. Especially if. On his on his resume, essentially. Yeah. Because frankly, he may have twenty one goals in the in Syria, but at the end of the day, no one really cares. And especially if we manage to I dread if they could just they don't care as long as we can make it past all this and get further in the tournament. It's a win. Because I I think many others would have never pegged Juventus to go out and around sixteen obviously unlucky to face such a strong opponent. Which begs the question read at let's go Madrid were they so confident in themselves that they purposely through those club that club Rouge match and gate. They were like we want second-place give us Juventus. We want the hard road champions are so sick of plant. They're just they're so sick of seeing Rinaldo succeeded Real Madrid. They just wanted a chance to. Knock him out there a little bit of as you said before Olympic Justice. I mean, they're like give us any. I any first place team. We only want the best. I wouldn't put a symphony as a psychopath. So yes, it does make sense make sense checks out checks out. You heard it here first. But yeah, I mean, I if I would if I were a betting man at this point with this situation. I think I think Juventus are probably done, and that's kind of kind of shocking as I thought they were easily a semi-final team. But to be very thought let's go Madrid where also a semi-final team. And when they play around sixteen only one can be it's going to be an exciting second. It's there's going to be red cards. Oh, yeah. Read. Red-carded e you never know he he walks a fine line when he knows it. But but people are getting red carded. And because they were almost got chippy in the first ten minutes of the first leg. So don't tell me once let's go Madrid holding onto that victory and Juventus may get one goal, and it's like one nil. But they can't get that second goal. You know, don't don't pretend like someone isn't gonna try and like Shiv one front or something like that. And then like, I don't know Cokie comes going to come in. With a flying kick on somebody else Costa coming in from the stance. He's gonna old WWE match. Just with a chair resent. Don't think it won't happen. And definitely is on is on cost coming in from the stands than the terrain stewards, beware. He's gonna he's gonna make a move at some point. Absolutely. Anyway, what a match I mean, it was a fun. It was a fat. It was absolutely thrilling. And Chris let's go Madrid. They just kept going and they got their win that they deserved. Great debt. Great day. Great day. Oh man now. So we're going to have obviously next week off. And then we're gonna start the return legs. I like that. There's not too much time off more than a week off. And things would start to simmer. Too long. I think. Have this kind of back to back to keep the momentum? I would prefer just keep right on going into next week where it's like, okay. Let's start the second regular just keep going. Yeah. One week off. But but I'll accept I'll accept one week. It's okay. But I don't know very very excellent read what awards you have force today. I just wanted to say I thought that goalkeeping in athletic event to match was fantastic that she has these save on the grease manship was. Just fantastic. And he's done a really nice job of stepping into booth. Fawns? Shoes gloves or however, you wanna put it. He's he's really impressive as a, you know, an arsenal. I guess he wasn't good enough for arsenal. But. So you you've reminded me read. I'm curious your thoughts. Hsieh's ni is as you say, I like the idea that it's actually boo phones gloves, and they're just like he'd never washed them wears gloves, man. Smell a Chianti. Fucking spaghetti sauce. Boop. Classic. Brag of this villainous bug spaghetti sauce leaving them for aware. Bouffe on we got Hsieh's ni. And he's he's holding himself up. We've got Emory Sean, who's left Liverpool who I think is working his way towards the first team. I think he's an excellent player which begs the question now with our friend Aaron Ramsey signing than big money contract with Juventus. What do you think of that? Because he does not in a million years. I would've never said Aaron Ramsey's gonna go play for Juventus one day. But he's also a player that seemed like he never quite lived up to his potential at arsenal. And this might be the changing needs so injury issues at arsenal. Yeah. But I mean who doesn't what promising young midfielder doesn't have injury issues at arsenal. But when he gets in the team he is the point in a team with Ozal Ramsey was the more consistent player. I thought honestly less temperamental and easier to get along with. In the locker room. But. I mean, the move you reported numbers four hundred thousand euros a week. I thought I think it was fishes an unbelievable number for a guy like Ramsey. But you're getting a freeze on there's that in consideration. But but I'm curious to see how he is going to team, you know. You know, especially because. Is it may be that you've are kind of conceding that this might not be there. You're in next year's going to be the year. They're adding a big piece in Ramsey. But is he the piece that they need in order to take a perceived next step? I'm not sure if it's an interesting signing I could've used him today. When things weren't you know, he could maybe create that creativity. That detailer pianists weren't quite doing. I think. Yeah. I don't know. I think it might be exciting at the same time. You know, it's a little you've got a good few years. But he's already. He's a player that can pick up the ball in his own half in charge into the fields and make something happen. He's a good box box midfielder also can score some goals. Yeah. You've you've got this. You know, the cliche of of I guess players from the British Isles in that area. Not typically leaving to go play abroad. But you know, we got Gareth bale from Wales in in Spain. And we got now Aaron Ramsey over there in Italy. And maybe they're the adventures ribs. It your Ramsey's Welsh's. Well, he's well. Yeah. Exactly. The Welsh brothers over there. The Welsh who just their adventurous, folk all travelers. I'm curious how how is it talion develops any word on how Gareth bale Spanish is doing? Now, he's just spent most of his time developing. His mad bun doesn't have time to learn other language. He's actually so much energy into growing his hair. I hear he. No, he communicates quite fluently with his hairstylist. But he only knows words in Spanish related to hair. Which leads to limited conversations, otherwise, but he spends a little anywhere else. Other than in the salon that it's it's it's fine. You on just mine. All right. As you say that that Sante that sunny free kick to me, absolutely gorgeous that Hsieh's ni. Save on grease means. Chip fantastic. And I mean, both games really delivered. Let's go Madrid Juventus was absolutely classy and fantastic. But a good come from behind. Shootout also fun to watch with city. And now, we're ready for the second leg the second and all around and soon enough. Man, every all we all need to get well rested, the next week and be ready to go because as I said that Manchester United comeback. It's going to take it out of emotion on time to sleep. Oh my gosh. Me too. I need an nap. Read as always a pleasure. And I look forward to chatting with you the week after next. Yep. Sounds good. Let's do it. In the meantime, as always you feel free to tweet at me at max Baril pods. Share your thoughts is your team still in it. Are they in it to win it? I wanna know. So anyway, we will we'll come at you March fifth Tuesday, March fifth will be the next episode, then we'll have game another game on Wednesday the sixth and then Tuesday and Wednesday the twelfth and thirteenth will carry us through the round of sixteen and then we will have the quarterfinal draw which I eagerly anticipate. But we I games before then and until those games that is the end of stoppage-time.

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CL Matchday 9 Recap

Stoppage Time: Champions League

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CL Matchday 9 Recap

"Ah? What's up everybody? Welcome to the start of stoppage time. I am your host max Baril, and this is your podcast devoted to the Champions League. We've got something a little different today bear with me. I've got no co hosts they've all run scared into the hills. Like the cowards. They are it's also beginning to be holiday time. And thanksgiving was last week if you are not in the United States, you're that was not an issue had to deal with. So you know, forgive us, but people were not available today to discuss the Champions League with me. So here is how we're going to do it I refuse to let a Champions League day go by without updating US to the action. So I am going to plow fourth with all the gusto, I can muster. Hopefully you stick around, and you can bear with just the sound of my voice today. I will try and speak relentlessly and quickly. So there is no dead air. But you get all the updates. You need. If of course, you cannot stand the sound of my voice by itself. Then I am sorry. Bio means tune back in tomorrow, and we should have a co host back on the show for you. But don't throw any hates or anything my way, I promises a hopefully just a one off anomaly, and that we will have all the co host action, you could possibly desire, of course, if you enjoy this episode mex-, ditch those co hosts for good, you're really the star attraction, and we want to hear more of your voice, only by all means tell me that you can tweet at the maks pods. You can leave a comment on I tunes. Good review always helps us out. So by all means keep keep any nice. Nice thoughts coming towards me. But you know, try try and bear with me. This'll be an interesting absurd. I can't really tell you exactly what it'll be. But enough Jabber Jabber. Let's get right into the action. This was the the we're we're nearing the end. Obviously, this is the. Second to last day for this group of teams. And now we have a pretty good sense of who's going through. And who is not. So let's get into it buying Munich five, then fica one Arjun Robin opened the scoring in the thirteenth minute. With a just a classic Robin goal. He doubled it up in the thirtieth minutes. Robert Lindau sqi extended the lead to three in the thirty six minutes when guild San Fernandez brought one backups are being on the field for a sh- just a tiny bit of time in the forty six minutes, but just to put any doubt to bed Lindau ski extended the lead in the fifty first minutes, and then Franck river re made it embarrassing lead. In the seventy sixth minutes, we knew this was always going to have to be a huge game for Benfica as they were having an uphill battle. This was not their day. This was clinical Biron, Ben Fico's defending is lackluster to say, the least I think, you know, this was a clarifying game for Benfica. And that this was playing the toughest competition they had to win. And they in fact, got slaughtered. I think I think the two best teams in this group are marching forward. Rightfully so. I think Reid is not on today's episode because he didn't want to own up to the fact that it looks like by Munich may very well cruise in first place with I in second. Although to be fair, there's still room for X to to come back, and and take take over first place. But I don't know we'll see, but by Munich, rightfully I think in first place, they look very clinical today, Robin. I love to see those were just vintage Arjun Robin goals regard on the on the scoresheet, which you know. He's ancient nice to see him still doing his thing. And Lindau hausky always good for some some potent header goals. So they have it. We say goodbye to Benfica who finished with a fairly lowly four points. Although it did come. Down to it fairly close till the end, but it was always going to be an uphill climb. Second half of this group leg we bid them. And and we March on forward to the other half of the group. I XE to Ike Athens nil deuce on Todd itch opened the scoring for in the sixty eighth minute with a penalty that also sought the red card for X Levada. I'm probably pronouncing that incorrectly. I apologize and then Totti extend double the lead in the seventy second minute with another goal. I XE always looked in control. I think they are rightfully rightfully in second place, not far off Byron to be you know, to be fair to them entirely. They've been excellent to watch we've been high on them this whole time. And they are they are making a good name for themselves. I think nice to see obviously is against the weakest team in the group, but nice to see them not giving up early goals. They need to lock it up as they go into the into the knockout stages. They can't give up those early goals because it's just going to be more and more difficult to come back. But I looking fairly calm and cool. Even though they had to wait, you know, fairly sixty eight minutes to get their goal. But but they looked in control. They sit in second place, eleven points betine behind by Munich's, thirteen and first place. I think the two best teams are definitely moving forward. And it'll be I think both of these teams are teams to watch. I XE maybe even the most kind of x factor team with their youth and their the momentum. They have they clearly have belief in themselves. They're fun to watch. So not nearly enough. Powerful far off shots. But that's what happens when Zeke isn't playing. We missed him and his ridiculous shooting ability. All right onto the next group who taken a breath. I mean, you're certainly going to get a more efficient episode because here we are six minutes into games down. No, we're not going to be long winded today. Manchester City to Leone to Maxwell Cornell opened the scoring for Leone in the fifty fifth minutes, then it was LaPorte of all people the defender for city who levelled it up in the sixty second. Cornell thought he probably sealed the win for Leone in the eighty first minute, but it was their hero Guerra the little man with the big jump who who tied the game up in the eighty third minutes. Manchester silly Len Leo finish yet again to to another thriller of a game. Obviously a back heavy game with all the four goals coming in the second half. This is a tough one to make out because city they sit top of the group they are in a good position. Although not secured of their first place finish and they've been solid in this Champions League. I think but they don't run away with it. Like they have been in the in the Premier League thus far. They're defending is a little questionable and they've they've had their run of games. A lot of very close finishes right until the end. And then you got leeann on the other hand who are just. You know, prepared to to battle it out swashbuckling away scoring goals left and right. But can they defend for to save their lives? We'll certainly see in the in the knockout rounds, they are just I mean, you know, they're not one hundred percent secure here. Shock tar. The nets still nipping just close enough at their heels often Heim now eliminated, but Leon look very good. When it comes to scoring, but they've just atrocious on defensive giving up so many goals in all their games. They cannot seem to defend corners or they're sloppy in their defensive corners. Then lead to kind of garbage goals. I just don't know what to make of this team. Memphis pilot gray Cornell with his goals were unbelie I mean, his goals were fantastic. The first one absolutely unbelievable shocked Fikile is great. You got you find a lot to like in Liam. But obviously they're playing a team. Like, man city. It's you expect to give up some goals, but they've been given up goals to the nets have been giving goals to often Heim. So it's not just that they're giving up two goals to the best teams. So yeah, I don't know they're going to have to they still have another big game ahead of them. I like their chances. I think I think they're in a good position. And they certainly seem like a tough team to beat. But I don't know if they're all that tough team to tie anyway city still have a little bit of work to do as well. I'm sure they will do the work necessary. They are city after all Aguayo and his silver foxy hair is looking dashing as ever and deadly as ever what a jump on his goal. It's so cool to see in a shorter player of that stature just leap to get a goal like that final goal. He did Sante has his moments Mahrez you'd like to see him more clinical when he gets kind of fairly open. Opportunities in front of goal that's a little disappointing. But he does get himself into good positions. I think city will do what's necessary they'll the lockup first place, but they don't seem to have a a hold on the Champions League. And you know, the they are the a lot of the bookmaker's favourite to win the whole tournament. And. That's there's a lot to make sense in that statement. But at the same time they have not been as convincing as you would hope anyway both. These teams have have worked to do in the final game. I think they're both capable of doing it. But there are the t there's the team nipping at their heels shock tar done atsc three often Heim to it was is smiley. The emoji named Brazilian who opened things up for the nets in the thirteenth minute Tyson than doubled the lead in the fifteenth minute. But just when you think often Heim was done for Chroma rich with a chip of just a stunner goal in the seventeenth minute. Brought things back then it was Steven Zuber in the fortieth minute who tied it up altogether. Unfortunately, a red card for often Heim in the fifty ninth minute for says ally made things difficult to lose lose a player like that. When you have to w-. Win is a tricky situation. So often hyme could not afford to to completely lock it up. They really needed a win today in order to stay relevant, which then led to Tyson's scoring in the ninety second minute to give shock tarred nets the win and to give them still a glimmer of hope in this Champions League group stage often Heim really just hasn't been there. Turnament they've gotten a lot of goals, but they've looked pretty poor in defense. I think the nets is the worthy winner today. They seemed minus those kind of two goals where they kind of switched off with oftentimes a little bit towards the middle of the game. Dinette looked so good early on. And then again late they were just kind of running rampant and just a number of goals shots getting deflected off posts. In fact, this was game of many post deflections that were heartbreaking for both sides. I think the nets deserve to win. They did it. They are still in. They need to win their final game. We will see how that how that shakes out. I still think they have not been convincing enough in the in just in their defense, obviously giving up two goals again. And then just not being quite clinical as you would hope. You know, we'll see. But I think I think the nets have the they certainly have the hill to climb. I'm not sure they are quite pull it off a little too little too late. You know, they're they're suffering for their slow start in the group stage but credit to them for not giving up. And I am sure that they will not give up going into the final game Tyson. Look good smiley as a left back in. You know, he's been their best player pretty much throughout there's lots of like in this team. We'll see if they can pull it off often Heim, we say goodbye to them, and they're well-dressed coach. But this was not their tournaments on. Fortunately, so city ten points. Leone seven shocked genetic five. City are guaranteed. They're going through. But will they lock up first place, and then Leone and shock tar battle it out for second. And and so that'll be something to watch in the final round in two weeks. All right. Let me take a breath. All right. Let's keep going or crews, and we're crews at Real Madrid to Roma nil Gareth bale in the forty seventh minute capitalized on a some soapy sloppy Roma defense and Lucas Vasquez doubled it in the fifty ninth minute as he finished off. What can only be described as an absolutely gorgeous piece of play with bail passing thebenz Benza who's headed over to Lucas vox Gez to finish off Real Madrid. Are they resurgent under? So Laurie are has he just stabilized thing this this is this just the bump of a new coach, but Real Madrid have solidified themselves top of the group with twelve points Roma. In second place are guaranteed to go through. There's there's a chance Roma could could go through in in. I, but they have quite the goal difference to make up they would have to to win ram injured lose and overcome a six goal difference. So I think this will finish exactly as it stands Real Madrid. And first Roma in second. I think Romo looked a little shaky today. I don't think this was I think they would tell you. This was probably not their best display. I don't think we've seen them nearly as clinical. As we've seen them in in past games. Under gave I mean didn't finish with just I mean, he was wide open and skied it from just a foot or two in front of goal. So that's brutal. I think and then the sloppy moments especially with that first goal for Gareth bale was just Roma losing focus, obviously, you're playing around the drid and that's easy enough to do. But they're going to have to be better going forward. I think they are better than they displayed today. Just a few key players missing for this team Olsen. I mean Fosse oh looked shaky. He missed also a good chance. I don't know Romo need to. I think they'll step it up in the future. They've looked pretty clinical thus far. Of course, you look at the rest of the group, and this has not been a convincing group. So you wonder yes, they've scored a lot of goals against teams like Victoria pills in CS K Moscow. But none of those have been exactly inspiring teams this tournament. So Roma have worked to do. But they certainly showed it last Champions League campaign that they have what it takes a long deep run. So we'll see, but you gotta like Real Madrid looking pretty solid again Gareth bale running all over the place, very dangerous, and and Benza very looking good with. I mean that his header past Lucy. Lucas vasquez. Absolutely gorgeous, really really phenomenal play there. So Real Madrid restore themselves top of the group pretty good. Pretty good. I got to say, I doubted them or. The on. I don't they obviously don't look like the team that's won the Champions League for the last however, many years, but they they're going in the right direction. So credit to them a big win today for Real Madrid? The other half of the group not a lot to discuss here as both of these teams are eliminated, but credit to Victoria pills in winning two to one against CS K Moscow Moscow opened the scoring in the tenth minute with a penalty from Los itch, but pills in refusing to give up it was Jessica in the fifty six minutes, and then 'hada in the eighty first that sealed things for pills in you. Gotta love for purchase. He his penalty was saved a very unconvincing penalty to say the least. And so to get him a goal that to restore the tie was huge. I think he seemed to catch himself off guard or even look like he realized he had scored or that it was going to count. But eventually when he did accept that. He had scored he was, sir. Pumped and that was cool to see CSKA. I mean, it was a freezing night. And they said it was negative five degree celsius for this game. Yikes. Snow flurries in the air. But but Moscow just they have been absolutely ineffective. In this tournament pills in we expected them not to be to be a major threats, but they finished in third place. Currently I'm we'll see what happens in the final game. They'll probably fall back down to fourth. But you never know. At the rate at they're going and CSKA should I'm sure they are not pleased with their current fourth place position. I think rushing teams have certainly enough pride to to think that they are capable of better than that. But anyway, not much more to discuss here as both of these teams, we say goodbye to in this tournament despite one more round still to go Juventus. One Valencia nail Mario Masuku which in the fifty nine th minutes the lone goal. This was a great game. I think Valencia had played their best game of this tournament. I think they defended. Well, at the start they they created a few chances Netto had a few good saves, but Juventus still looked like they were completely in control. So I think while Valencia gave them their best shot today. Juventus looked more than up to the task Cristiano Renaldo his assist to men's UK is what however many step overs just pinpoint low cross was a thing of beauty Netto Savo against against Cristiano Ronaldo's header late in the game was quite the save Juventus. I think he's could have won this one two or three nil. They're not necessarily team that will always do that. They're more than happy to one nil and outs. And and just defend, but they looked they looked very good develops Goodman. Zukas Renaldo not too weedy having him back in there. You see what he can do? And then you still think, you know, bent on Coors playing there still room for a few more starters to even fill in Shehzad had a couple of great saves though against Valencia to they were not abject by any means. But yeah, Juventus, I think probably one of the teams that have impressed me. Most in this group stage. They just not that they're blowing anyone out of the water. But they just look so calm and collected every game despite their one loss to to Manchester United. However that happened they they really look quite formidable and Valencia, obviously, this was always a huge task to be done against Juventus. They almost had the great opportunity. We'll talk about Manchester United in a second. But the loss of ultimate sealed at four for them and for Manchester United, but so they go home again, they had a few flashes of danger for them in this in this group, but they could never quite get their feet despite I think looking better as the group's age went on. I think started to find a formula with Meena in there with Rodrigue. Oh, but too little too late Juventus have locked up their spot their progression as Manchester United, but it's all still to play for in terms of who will finish first next in the final round. So I mean, you know, crazy as though is it may be mattress United very well may finish top of this group and Juventus in second. We shall see. I doubt it, but we shall see. Speaking of Manchester. United won the young boys. Neil Marawan Fellini in the ninety first minute last gasp win. I mean poof. I mean, you think about this. This was very tense, obviously Valencia were keeping things level with Juventus for a while that of alternately escaped them, but Manchester United couldn't get a goal to save their lives against the weakest team in this group by far it was really becoming extraordinarily frustrating. As rash word kept on getting himself into fantastic positions. And then just not converting Marcial had a couple chances. Fellini had an early chance Lynn guard had some good passes. Fred was fire in even some of his long range shots, but it just wasn't working for United. I don't know. It's one of those games that you kind of think mentions you could've won this one four nil. Maybe that's often mystic thinking. It seemed to me like there was quite a bit of belief from rash road. And he really was getting into some really great positions. I think if he can just get a couple more goals in him and build that confidence. Then you start converting those chances that you were in you know, that you had today. So I think on the one hand. Yes, we could have won four three or four nil. We didn't though and that speaks to our play all season, Manchester, United obviously need to be more clinical. They need that final pass that final touch. They need a player who can really step up and control a game. Really be that threat that starts to draw defenders in but United obviously, this was a huge win for them. They now are through to the round of sixteen. They have a chance to finish first, which is always a valuable thing. A lot of headlines that that say Manchester United are probably gonna get dumped out in the round of sixteen. There play certainly would suggest that that is possibility. Unfortunately at the same time, you just can never count out Marino in a knockout competition is his specialty. Of course, we got dumped out of this competition in this knockout competition last year against Avia in a a double headed game that we should have one. You know, I think we, you know. I think most mazes fans would say that you should have beaten severe last year. So that doesn't exactly speak highly towards our chances in the route of sixteen. We'll see who we play obviously, it's a little premature. We'll do all sorts of predictions. Once once we know what the match ups are going to be exactly, but you can never count out Marino. And this new hairless Laney, you know, it's just it's a big change. It's a whole new world out there. And we're just gonna have to see how goes, but this was on the one hand good display in that United looked they certainly had chances but disheartening in our inability to take those chances. Really see rush word finishing some of those shots. But anyway, young boys are done Juventus and United battle it out in the final round for first place. Valencia I salute them. I am certainly glad my prediction has fallen false that would carry us out and they'd finish in second. But still much work to be done. And in twenty three hundred twenty four minutes. We've we've recapped all the groups. I mean, really clearly it was read holdings back. That is if you're looking for a shorter episode. I don't know maybe like the long stuff tell me tweet at me at Mex borough pods. I'm lonely guys. I've heard from you stoppage-time fans in a while. All right goal, slim. Give goal of the day. I mean, there's no shortage here. Crummer h his goal for often high beautiful Tyson his second goal with that touch in. The spin move was a thing of beauty Cornell and his first goal that stunner. But the only way I could possibly see is the absolute vintage beauty that was the build up and the finish for Arjun Robbins first goal against Benfica. I mean, no angle whatsoever. I mean, first of all dribbles two three players to get into position. And then yeah, no angle at all absolute classy finish such a Robin goal thing ability. Absolutely loved it. All right. Save of the day. We've got a series. Of just pure reflex. Instinctual save Courtois and his he had an early safe falling to the ground against Roma. That was a thing of beauty sheds. Ni had a great one handed. Save from very little range day heya seem to think that the ball's gonna hit a player or maybe offsides. And he had kind of Joe or just didn't see it and had you jump. Extremely late got getting his big Spanish paw to that to that bowl to that ball. And then Lopez saving against guero as well. But I gotta give it to. It was a huge save. It was you could tell he probably just didn't quite see it until it was late in the way. He got to it on that one hand absolutely clutch. Of course, it was a pivotal save for Manchester United because God only knows if we had gone one down one down two young boys. What would have happened? Giving an assist award today because we don't give a lot of those. But Rinaldo his multiple step overs thing of beauty as I mentioned. And then Benza the build up play that led to Lucas Vasquez goal. The pass from bail to Benza and Benza heading it than over to Vasquez. Also thing a beauty, but I'm partial to Cristiano Renaldo somebody give him his step overs and pinpoint cross gorgeous. Worst miss. This is kind of cruel award to get. But under again, you just can't miss from that close frustrating and then best celebration if I as I live in breathe it goes to our old friend Jose Marino in the ninety first minute upon Fellini scoring the winning goal. He takes out all years worth of frustrations on the poor linesman's clock. Just completely catapulting it onto the ground. Breaking. Into not into. But it seemed like it indeed, partly shattered. You got to imagine. He's got some fines or a ban or some nonsense coming his way kind of a silly celebration. Clearly, the man is frustrated and got it to a release a little bit of it today. But got to admire that passion, and that's what we got here on stoppage-time because we're still with it. I hope you stuck with me here. We're going to come in just under half an hour. My voices already tired. I mean, it's tough to talk for half an hour straight. No breaks. But for the Champions League, we do it. And I do it for you. So please. If you enjoyed today's episode, and you didn't you just didn't mind it too much bio means let me know at max Baril pods on Twitter. If you have any thoughts and comments on tomorrow's games about means tweet those at me as well. And we'll discuss them on tomorrow's episode most likely with a co host so get excited for that. And if you want me to boot read off tomorrow shown, you're like I'm sick of that. Guy told me that to you know, what we'll do this again, just me and your ears tomorrow. I look forward to tomorrow's episode, of course. But until then that is the end of stoppage-time.

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 82: Manchester United and Real Madrid Struggle

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 82: Manchester United and Real Madrid Struggle

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We're going to discuss the Champions League results from matchday too. There's also some upcoming game, so we will look at those notable matchups in detail and break down the games that that did just happen yesterday. We will also in segment two will be talking about the Manchester United drama in the Real Madrid scoring slump that they are going through. Now, in the third segment, we'll talk about the EPL as we look ahead to match week eight. Obviously, a very exciting league should be some fun games this weekend, so we'll take a look inside those. And then for the. Last segment, we will talk about other soccer news related around the world. So let's jump into it yesterday. We saw Juventus with the suspended Cristiano Rinaldo so he did not get to play the defeat. Young boys, three nil divall. I've hear team name by the way young boys. Yeah. So you've intas takes care of business as predicted three, no, to Bala from Argentina had three goals in that game. We look at bin fica from Portugal. They take care of Athens from Greece, three to Moscow actually see us a Moscow picks up a stunning defeat over Real Madrid and upset there. A lot of people did not see that coming Byron Munich were drawn at home against I XE Amsterdam, another surprising result. A lot of people believe that Biron Munich has agreed chance of winning the Champions League this year. But regardless. I XE is a team. Some would say, doesn't have the same quality. So Manchester United. Of course, they had Valencia. It was a home game. United has been struggling recently and they draw nil nil. Just another struggle for Manchester United. Another game that goes by without a win and the pressure mounts on Josie. Marino a, we'll talk about that in detail. Next segment, Manchester City got a late goal. They beat TSE Hoffman Heim to one and then shock tar in Leone, tie to two in the biggest win of the day goes to Roma beating Victoria pose in five, nothing. So five, Neil. I thought I five, nothing five nil. I'm just trying to get with those poppers, soccer, etiquette, I'm not. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to Songkhla. I'll be honest, but I just know the nil part is important. So what you do need to know about that game. That Roma was predicted to be heavy favourite. They took care of business. So Juventus they win. They played without Rinaldo as we know he got that red card in the first match day of very controversial red card when she say, well, I did look. I did watch the red card and it was tad ridiculous. Okay. More than tatty was ridiculous. Coming from it even look like he touched them. Like he looks like he just slightly tapped him. Yeah, he liked tapped him on the on the top of the a lot worse. Yeah. So the red card happens. They did reduces as benching, so he's only going to miss this. He only missed this game. He'll be back Juventus Zach, actually, their next game against Manchester United, which is a very notable fixture. So he will get to play his former team, Manchester United in Juventus will welcome him back. And probably pair him with Doba LA, who scored three goals yesterday is nice to see him. He was kind of a player who was set aside when they signed Rinaldo and Juventus looked strong yesterday even without him. So. Yes, Manchester United. Of course, they draw against. Zia, it was just another dole performance for Manchester United. We're getting used to that from this marina led team. This season has not started off as well as they would've liked. They did get eighteen attempts to the eight attempts for once you, but really only a couple of real strong chances. They looked better than they have been in previous games, but unfortunately, they could not find the breakthrough finish they draw so. Yeah, looking at Manchester City, they take care of business what the second goal by David Silva in the eighty. Seventh minute put some over Hoffman Heim. Fortunately, for them, they were able to get the win after a less than Stiller performance. We expect at this point to see Manchester City score goals in abundance, but they do get the win. So for match day to tin, today's game, we have Bruce Yah Dortmund against Monaco. Do you know who plays Bruce Dorman. Was I think you told me this before he's in American. Our best player that doesn't really. That doesn't really say much compared to see how bad the US men's soccer team has been in the last couple of years. That may be true, but he's also a player that is playing for big club, Bruce Dortmund. So it's Christian pulisic. He, he'll be playing. His team will be playing. I'm not sure if he'll be in the starting lineup. We haven't seen those lineups giving yet z z z casual starter as you'd like. Does. He starts most games, but he doesn't start every game is not like the best player on the team by any means, no, but they're also a team that's very well rounded. They have a lot of good young players. So young boys dressing. Young men help it young men yet it said it sound wronged in. That's a bad name for team when you think about. So Dorman is a good team. They play against Monaco. A very important game. So pull such dig it a goal in his first Champions League match of this season, they will be at home against Monaco. I expect them to win this game. I think it'll be. It'll be close the Monaco's obviously a decent team, but I'm gonna go with like to one prediction here. A big game for me today is taught him in Barcelona. I think that is today's best matchup most intriguing matchup. Tottenham. No, they are looking to make that next step as a club. They've had domestic success, albeit without really any trophies. But in Champions League, they've struggled sorry to interrupt, but I'm just I'm watching. I'm gonna get the scores right now. There's games going on in the Champions League and para. Saint Germain is up to nil in the twenty third minute, and neymar has scored on the twentieth minute and the twenty second minute. So in two minutes time it's already to nil in very, I just felt like that would be an important thing. Absolutely. And that game PS g. is definitely the strong team stronger team there. So I expect them to continue that probably put a couple of goals. It was just nothing. Nothing for so long. And then in literally two minutes until you're down two goals, that's probably demoralizing for the red stars. Yeah, we'll have to check the highlights, see what the goals looked like. A good start PS g. as they, they're another team to. I was talking about Tottenham. There are team. Both teams taught them. Amperes g there to clubs that are looking to not just be successful domestically, but the next step in their progression is actually doing well getting far in the Champions League. I think for PS g in particular, a Champions League final has to be their goal at least reaching the final after being shown the door early in competitions past. So look for that to Schulkin and Lokomotiv Moscow also playing right now that scores zero zero. So we'll see how that one ends up. Yes, Tottenham Barcelona is going to be a highly contested game, taught him at home, so they will host messy and Embelli Suarez and the rest of the boys from Barcelona later on today you have a prediction in that game. If I'm correct me if I'm wrong but isn't messy retiring soon. It was the big story was happening might retire from international play, but he's not retiring from. Yeah, no, he'll he'll be there for a few more years for sure. Okay. I'm just trying to make double check those facts because I remember there was an emotional sendoff for him or something of that nature. Recently. I'm not sure if that was him or not. I'm, I was messy but going from he sold the number one player in the world. Ooh or not. Right now, I mean, are considered considered that I won't play in the world still. I mean, he didn't win the award. But yeah, I mean, it's Messier and all do. Probably like, that's he's still, that's the never ending argument is messy. Yeah. I mean, they both of them one player of the year every year for ten years until this last one. So, I mean, we'll granted, I think you can still put them either Messier and all there was number one, even if they didn't win an award, I would still like you don't see like a an example like you don't see like. Judge. I, I wanna try another sport, but I don't want to go off topic here. So I'll just say you don't see one of the greatest Tom Brady and win the MVP award every year, and he's still considered the greatest of all time. Right, right. So you can say the same with messy or run, although -absolutely. Absolutely a lot of it's based on team success. Like if it's a year, that Real Madrid wouldn't ver- NADA was with Real Madrid. And when they were winning titles, although is likely winning player and vice versa. I think right now between Tottenham and Barcelona they're playing. I think homefield bandages gonna play a factor when especially in soccer, I think that is the most important because when you look just as a casual viewer of soccer, when you look at the crowd in a soccer match, it truly is like you're playing in front of like the most die-hard crowd. You could possibly find anywhere. Yeah, you make a good point too because we saw last last. Match last week when Liverpool. Gee, played against each other, Liverpool is at home, and I thought that it made a considerable difference. They just had so much energy in that game. They were on the front foot from from minute one, and they just seem to get that extra boost at home. So you make a good point there about the home field advantage. So you know, as we look at at that group Barscelona they have three points. Tottenham fell to Inter Milan. So they don't have any points. So it's kind of a big game for Tottenham. So also we gotta keep that in mind. So the home field advantage, taunt them, knowing that they, they need drawn this game. They don't want to lose in not have any points after match week to because then Barcelona and possibly Inter Milan will have six, which means that they'll be full two games behind them with four to go. You don't wanna be in that big of a whole early. So it is a massive massive game for Tottenham as they face the always strong Bursa Luna. Yeah. Well, I think Martha is always been on. It's just a strong team like they're, they're like the patriots of soccer when we think about it. Yeah, they're always, they're always competitive. They're always a contender. Absolutely. So yes, yesterday also we saw Moscow be Real Madrid. It was another game for Real Madrid where they had a lot of attempts. They had seventy three percent possession to twenty seven percent, but they could not score a goal. And ultimately they did fall to the Russian side. One hill. Goal that was scored in the second minute by Nico of lasted. So he scores in the second minute, Moscow holds on for dear life as a as they defeat Real Madrid. Is that a shocking result to you to see her d. Mike, Real Madrid lose to aside like CSKA Moscow. I think in any score when a team of that calorie upset, it just shows you might be down, Klein, losing Aldo, put a huge hole in that team. I mean, when you consider when the girls players of this generation, if novel time it's gonna put a factory in of how poor your team we'll do without him. Yes. So a quick recap of the groups that have played two games. So go through the seeings. I x has four points. Byron has four points. Then fica has three and a k Athens has zero. That's in groupie in group f we have Leone with four city with three points, shocked tar with two and often Heim with. One in group f that is drew g is Moscow with four, Madrid, three Roma with three and Victoria pause in with one in group. H Juventus leads the pack with six United for Valencia. One young boys still without a point. So the their six matches in the group stage. So some of these groups have played two and the other ones are playing their second game today. So with that being said, we're going to take a short break. And when we return, I'm gonna dive into the Manchester United drama with Jose Marino and also look at why row Madrid hasn't been scoring goals anyway coming at you right after this. Boom, we'll choose my we know on star. Does school shoe honest. Tell me what you do to me confrontation. They nothing new to me. You could bring a bullet, bring a swore, bring a more, but you can't bring the truth to me. Alexa, play Kendrick, Lamar and says, okay. 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In the first segment, we talked about the Champions League fixtures that just took place yesterday and also today's upcoming fixtures. Right now, we will talk a little bit about Manchester United in detail as the pressure mounts on these special one quote unquote shows e Marino as we know he gave himself that title of the special one, Jeff. What do you think about that wouldn't wouldn't. She saw the special one like you gotta let other people call you a nickname. That's true. I'm not a fan of giving. You're giving yourself a nickname that she gave more organic. Awesome. Mr.. Awesome guys. So what does need vindication? So what does not awesome is Manchester United start, especially in the English Premier League Champions League. They're sitting four points, special one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Champions League, they're sitting at four points right now. Not the worst start. They do play Juventus in their next game. So that match will be pivotal maybe to winning the group. They are obviously set up to advance to the next round. But as we look at the English Premier League table, Manchester United, the one three games, they've lost three games and they've drawn one game teams like Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea have not lost a game yet. So as it stands right now, tenth place Manchester United sitting at ten points. They're nine points off already of first place right now. So last year they did finish second. A lot of people do forget that. And a lot of people don't give Manchester United or Marino credit for that because Manchester City finished such and such high position. I mean, there's a twenty point gap between first and second. It wasn't a race. It was a one team race. So out of people forget United actually had a pretty good year last year, but city had an incredible year. The pressures melting Manchester United. We've heard the rumors we've seen them is Marino going to be out. Marino also has a track record of being fired in the third year of every job that he's had at least the last track record yet. He just he's a, he's a coach that he's hard to work for. I think if we're making a comparison to American football, for example, I would say he's like Jim Harbaugh where he can be very, he's a very good coach, but he kinda runs his course, and then he moves onto other things. Well, gee, moral fired. He probably would have stayed in San Francisco if you one for the GM Chen Polke at the time. But what I mean is he kind of is a hard person to deal with for. Period of time, if that makes if they're getting the job done, you got a bite your lip and take it. Exactly. So as we look Manchester, United struggling, ten points already nine points off the pace. This is a club. One of the biggest clubs in Europe. One of the biggest sports franchises in the world. They don't play for third place. They don't play for fourth place. So being nine points off of the pace right now through seven games in the English Premier League season that does last thirty eight games. It's a long season, of course, but you don't want to start off, you know, twelve fifteen points behind the leaders early on and they have. They've matched this Saturday against Newcastle United. It's a team that they should win Newcastle sitting in eighteenth place. They're winless through seven games. Would you say this is a must win for Marino to keep his job? They're winless at the moment. You say, Newcastle shoot draws and five losses, and they've only scored two goals in. Seven. Then? Yeah, I would say I would put his job with law your teams getting done, then I'll get someone that can get it done. In that game will be on at nine thirty AM Pacific time on NBC. Don. That is that is something to watch. I can. I think his job is safe for now, but if they lose if they even tie this game, if they get a draw against Newcastle score, a lot of goals at all right, fine. We'll hold on for a little bit, but I think he needs just, I think, is team needs to score goals. So that's the problem that Manchester United. Not only are they not getting the results, but they tend to not score enough goals there you don't play a brand of football or soccer, whatever you would like to call it that is with a famous name on their jerseys, and that's why they're there were they are. I mean, they have great players on their team, of course, led by sound like they just don't sound like they're getting it done or. Oh yeah, they're telling me they don't care almost. Well, that's the thing too. It's like the question is, has he lost the locker room? That's like a an argument because you've got players like Paul, PA, who's a World Cup champion who's not playing at the level that he's used to other. Guys like Kaku, Anthony, Marquel, Marcus rash for these guys are inconsistent. They're not getting it done. So it's not just tactically, but we will see how this team reacts. They're going through some turmoil. They need to figure it out quick. And I think if marina is going to be the coach, at least through the holidays, it's going to have to turn around this Saturday against Newcastle. They're going to have to win that game at home. If they lose, he could be out early. Now, we've heard possible replacements four Marino if he does in fact get sacked over the weekend or in the upcoming futures of soccer game, that's wrong type of football. Yeah, exactly. I'll be your all week. So they don't like cheesy cheesy, jokes, Zindedine Sadan is a popular name. He's the front runner to be the next Manchester United coach if they do go on and fire Marino, and that is because Donnelly Zinedine Zidane one of the greatest players of all time. But he has massive success in such a very short tenure as a head coach as head of Real Madrid before he resigned to pursue taking taking time off before he gets back another coaching position, but three Champions League titles, unheard of what he did. He's the name. He's the name to look for. I know some people say that Ryan Giggs might be the next replacement manager for Manchester United. It's a possibility. I would say that they would probably go for a bigger name, Mike Zindedine on. And if they get turned down, then maybe we do see a guy gigs of former legend of. Manchester United. Maybe he steps in at least finishes the season. We've seen him do it before. Yeah, no. Moving on. I would like to talk a little bit about Real Madrid. They, they struggled to find the net yesterday against Moscow and their Champions League defeat in Russia. They lose one, they'll. Despite having twenty eight attempts on goal, they just could not find the back of the net. Now, Real Madrid has to defeats and one draw and their west three games overall, all competitions. They have gone three hundred and twenty nine minutes without scoring a single goal that is more than five hours of play. If you're keeping track how long they've not scored a goal and three hundred twenty nine minutes. The long time the last time they went this long before celebrating a goal in two thousand and seven. And that was when David Beckham was still a Real Madrid player. That is eleven years that they have gone as been since they've gone this long without scoring a goal in in in this many games is incredible. So as as we all know, Real Madrid has is going through transition this year as they sold. One hundred million transfer fee Cristiano Rinaldo to Juventus you know it was something that. It was said that Rinaldo wanted to leave. There is some drama going on between him and foreign Tina pres- the president of Real Madrid. He didn't feel like he had the support of the club when he was going through his tax evasion case. Do you think that they miss him now? For other playing, I would be some people do, but I think they just need a process right? And that's for an although he's getting a little bit older and eighty turns thirty four this year. But if there's one thing that he's been able to maintain over the years, even if he's losing some of his creativity, maybe in the midfield he's able to score goals. I mean, that is that is a fact the man is turned into a clinical striker. He can score free kicks. He can score off of headers. He just knows where to be in the box for his teammates, and it looks like Real Madrid. They could use that right about now. Oh man, we, we should have gotten rid of him, but it was. It was a lot of money granted. And like I said before, maybe we'll see in the process of things right now they probably do. But I guarantee you that as soon as like he retires, which is probably be sooner rather than later, they'll be like, okay, we've made the right choice that we have all this money. Let's use it. Yeah. And it's tough for the new. The new manager there to fall in a dean, don's footsteps. You're talking about a coach that was insanely successful for such a short period of time that you know any struggles especially early is going to be widely scrutinized, but Real Madrid. Also, they do have the current best player in the world. I mean, obviously, that's an opinion we can talk about that, but the actual holder of the titles Luca Madria and he just doesn't look like himself. Think that with his long season west year, plus the demanding World Cup run that he would his country Croatia into. He looks a little tired, sold drained, that might be a problem. Would you say? I mean a lot of these players, something that I'm not sure that if you are aware of Jeff, but these players usually have about two months in the summer where they have off before the new season starts in a World Cup here year, not afforded that time. You go straight into training preparing and then you go into the term in if you're team goes far, you've played well into July and August your season starts. You don't really have -cation or holiday as they would call it over in Europe. You think that's playing into a factor of maybe why Luca Madria isn't performing as well as he has been known to. I think with that you've been saying is. That's the loaded question. It's it's a long question. That's sure put him well, he is thirty three. So module is not twenty seven twenty eight year old player do that where? Yeah, like age is definitely a plane. A factor in this and he is like you, right? He said he's played a he. He sent Croatia to the World Cup, correct yet to the finals where they lost the France. So he literally had no break. Yeah, he I mean, they and he's he's been given rest here and there during games like him, but long hole where you need like longer than a day or two. There's a mental toll to it's not just physical like you need to take a setback after you play soccer for or any sport for twelve. Let's say twelve months in a row. I mean, so a whole year straight. I mean, he he literally had other than the international break or the league break in the winter. So in January, they take some time off in the European leagues during winter where it's the weather's not so great, but they have like a break in between. The first half in the second half of the season. Other than that couple of weeks off, he has been playing consistently since January. Yeah. But again, how long can you continue this for? Yes, it's true. He is a guy who's thirty three and he realized a lot of his game relies on being able to be that box to box midfielder. So it is something to keep an eye on their he, you know, he just one. His award for being the best player in the world. But I mean he's thirty three. You could see a decline happening sooner rather than later, you know? Yeah. And he's already declining. We'll see how long this continue. So manches United. I mean, they have other really good players. Of course, Marcus and CO Gareth bale Benza of course they add the keeper Tiba Courtois with Kate where Nava Sergio, romo's. I mean they have names. They have players. They're agreed team, but they're not scoring right now. And as we saw in the last few years, we saw them be able to play beautiful brand of of soccer football. While having that tremendous goalscoring threat and the box that defense is always had to keep an eye on, you'd always have to Mark Renaldo with more than like more likely you'd have to at least have one player shading him and marking him man to man. But. Yeah, they're goal-scoring drought. We'll see how long this can't continue. We'll be taking a short break and right after this, we're going to dive into the Premier League match. We gate this weekend. There's some notable games. We'll go through them briefly talk about kind of what we see being the results of the games and we'll be back with you right after this. Hey, DC right now at vision works all prescription eyewear. Every frame. Every brand is fifty percent off. Yup. A nifty fifty percent. Thanks to our friends and family event. What's even better? It applies to both glasses and sunglasses. That's right. At division works friends and family event, you can save fifty percent on all prescription eyewear. Why? Because we like you. 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We also covered Manchester United and their drama in the last segment. And of course we talked about the Real Madrid scoring swamp and if they're missing Mr. Cristiano Rinaldo at this time. Now I'd like to jump into the English Premier League. Has Dina that mean with wolverine and holding that picture? Yes, that's the think there's a Real Madrid. Well, let's run. Although I will say if they're scoring drought continues that that will be a main if it isn't what you probably probably as soon as you got traded, probably that. So we'll jump into the Premier League e c, you said missing? I'm like all that. Just reminded me of that one. That mean it's a great mean too. So we're coming up on match week eight. This weekend in English Premier League, which I feel is the best league up and down in the world. I say that because this league is tough from top to bottom, there's other leagues where it might be a little top heavy, but this is the English league is just the league where the twentieth place team nineteenth team can give the first place team. Second place team run anytime it's very balanced. So looking at the standings. These are your top four Manchester City at nineteen points, liver put nineteen points. Chelsea. It seventeen taught him at fifteen also titled arsenal. So the top five actually city Liverpool, Chelsea Tottenham arsenal. And as we look at it three teams right now are undefeated on the year man city, Liverpool and Chelsea. And that leads me to this weekend's big game the game of the week, Liverpool Manchester city. The battle of the current top two teams in the English Premier League. In my top two teams in my preseason predictions, I had man city Liverpool, finishing one and two, and it's no surprises. See them at six wins in a draw a piece. So they come into the game, both teams scoring at a really high rate, Manchester City as twenty one goals, three against sliver, pull fifteen and three against. It's going to be a tough tough game. Now, liver is the home team. And you said you talked a little bit about home field advantage. Do you see that being a the biggest factor in this match? Up of two heavyweights Liverpool, Manchester city. Yes, I do. But also I'm taking nothing to wait for Manchester City because just they're always known as a good a great team. So this is definitely going to be a close one. Yeah, I don't. I don't see this being like, oh, it's all over poor. It's all Manchester City. This is gonna be coming down to the wire my prediction. Yeah, it's it's going. It's what I like to when these two teams play Liverpool's had their number at least recently Liverpool's coach by Uragan Klopp, who is has done as good of a job as anybody at stopping pep Guardiola, Manchester c team, the way they like to play. The Liverpool press has really affected Manchester City. In the past, it's flustered them. It's made them play a game that they don't want to play where they actually have to build their attack from the back. They went to play much higher up the field, but the hardworking forwards over pull have in Roberto for me, no Mohammed Salah in Saudi Amani really, really has affected Manchester City in the pass. Oh, it's going to be interesting to see early on in this game. If Manchester City has changed anything tactically to get around that very high press of Liverpool. Yeah, you're right. You just this tweet. Another coin flip. You on Lennie Lee, this one, I actually think we were going gonna win. Okay. I have them there at home, and I think that with their past success against Manchester City, they're gonna feel confident. I am going to go with a three, two victory for Liverpool. I see Salah making his Mark on this game where he's been kind of. He's hasn't been at his true form the last few gains by see him really putting his stamp on this one, three, two pool. Okay. I'm gonna flip the coin. I have. No, I think is close calling in the years. It really is a coin flip game to be honest with you, so. Okay. So we should whatever you call it, that will be whatever liver pollutants you think they'll win. All right. All right. Head tired heads. You always heads, Liverpool tales, Manchester City. It is heads. So it looks like that Liverpool will take this. Read it to it looks like it's all it's all it's all destined now it's what's happening. Yeah, absolutely. So moving on, take a look at some of the other fixtures. I mean that that is for sure the match of the week. There won't be a another fixture that gets as much hype. Yeah, yeah. True. So I had to the problems popular teams in the Europe. So yeah, absolutely. And both teams are contenders to win the Champions League, not just seeing community, so Brighton and West Ham will match up with each other. Those are two teams that are that need a win. Let me ask you this real quick. Yes, as a casual watches every now and again fan, would you think which one would you rather win the Premier League or championship? Okay. Just trying to make the winner of England wants a winner of Europe. Okay. Bombed is trying to say like for the people that really maybe not aware of how prestigious these leagues are, which one would sit more important. I mean, I thought when you set out for most clubs, though, when you sit out your season goals, you're winning your domestically is always at the top because that's the one that's most attainable. And that's the one that you're always going for some years. You might go for Champions League gory because you feel like you have the squad. Mystically is probably the toughest. I would say Europe, right or Spanish for Europe and domestically. Some people would say Spain, but I'm no England for me is the number one league because of how strong the weak teams are in that league. Oh no. With that being said, the English Premier League is known for not having tremendous success in Champions League, and I base that mostly because of the strenuous season that those teams have to play. They can't afford. To rest players in their English league games. Whereas some of the bigger teams in Spain in Germany, the Byron Munich's of the world. Did you vent his teams of the world Barcelona, Real Madrid. Those teams can often times afford to sit their best players in rest them for the big coming Champions League matches were in England, the roster's their deep, but they're not those starting eleven players or just playing a lot of minutes against a lot of tough teams all the time. Interesting. So, yes, so people would say, oh, England can't be the best league because their success in Europe doesn't warrant that conversation. But you think it's like based off like they're so exhausted from that domestic league that they are almost like they are. So they're beat up going into a championship match sample. Like, I'll take Barcelona and Real Madrid. For example, they both had the Spanish league, but in Spain, there's four or five teams that are good, and then there's five or six teams that are just. I really bad like they're almost like they can. Yeah, it's, they can play their second squads and still walk out with a win where an England, if you play, you're taking a risk as an English club, even if you're a Manchester United or an arsenal or Chelsea or Manchester City team like that. If you play a team like Brighton or West Ham, who are in the lower part of the table, if you don't play your best eleven, you're running the risk of not winning that game because those teams are strong enough to beat you. Those teams are strong enough to drive. So that's my opinion on why England is the best league. Yes. Going back. Brighton and West Ham started. Could you all topic? Oh no, absolutely. Not Brighton and West Ham. That'll be a tough match-up. Both teams need to win their Burnley Huddersfield. Field Huddersfield I believe is the weakest team or maybe second weakest team. I see them being relegated this year Burnley's playing a lot better recently, so they should come out with the result. One notable game that I'll be looking for is Crystal Palace. They play against wolves, visit team called Crystal Palace. There is that's an awesome name Crystal Palace with seven points and wolves are at twelve. Wolves have been kind of the darling of the Premier League so far because they're a newly promoted team. They actually were promoted from the second division championship is they called an England and they've hit the ground running oughta times the team struggle when they go up and put the big boys. But this team currently sits at ninth place, three wins three draws and one loss twelve point. So wolves have surprised and impressed, and they play crystal. Palestinian vulnerable right now coming off a loss. So I see wolves winning this game. I'll go with a to nothing when they're. Leicester City and Everton. That should be a fun match up as two teams kind of in the middle of the table right now are looking to get three points under their belt so they can push possibly to the top six after this weekend. Tough game for me. I think west you will probably pull this one l. but I could see a drawn this game like a one one type game. Yeah, that I just feel like it'd be so disappointing. A draw? Yeah, in a hyped matchup like this. Let me not height but match. We're looking forward to. Yeah, we'll, you know, draws happen. So it's kind of like, where will they be going to look at the games, Chelsea and Southampton eat in house. Art is on fire for Chelsea. Right now. The guy is if we were doing our early season player of the year for England, eat eating house, our would have won that title. He has six goals in to assist seven games. His scoring record right now is unmatched. I see him scoring again, this weekend, this Sunday as Chelsea likely defeat Southampton by few goals. I'll say I'll say three, nothing there. Three nil full, and we'll play arsenal in a battle against between two London based clubs. Fulham also newly promoted side. Ourselves been playing pretty well. Walk has been strong as of late for Arsenal. I see arsenal taking this. I would say probably two one win there. And then of course Manchester United against Newcastle. We talked about it a little bit in the last segment. I think Manchester United needs a win. I think they absolutely need to win for Marino to be the coach on Monday morning at training. He will not having been a winless team even withdraws really put you at a put your c, really cooking. Like there's a cook eggs on that semi Manchester City's. They're playing a team that hasn't won any games. But I mean, they, they've struggled, but they need a win here. I mean, it's just when you look must win situation. I would say. So they're nine points back from like we talked about from I, they're nine points. All ready. That's already a big hole to be in for a team that's asked has aspirants of winning the league and they're playing against. Newcastle a winless team, they must win. They're at home. Yeah, that's that's kind of my outlook as for the English Premier League this weekend, taunt them place. Cardiff City didn't mention that game, but that should be easy win for Tottenham. I say Harry Kane continues his streak of goals. They win three to nothing. What I born myth is going to be fun game. Both teams have been impressive early on in the season. We'll see if they can continue their run their teams that aren't used to being so high in the standings Wofford sits at six place. Thirteen points born at seven at thirteen points. It's going to be a fun game. That's an underrated matchup this weekend. I know that people will look at the scores are the schedules and they look for the big teams. But if you get a chance to see what further and born with play, both teams have been exciting so far this juncture in the season, both scoring goals, but both can also give up goals. So I see a game over there. I think it'll be something like a two game. I'd say if you're looking at all the games this weekend, this has the second or third highest potential of of the high scoring game behind Liverpool Manchester city. I think this is probably your best bet for a back and forth multiple goal output by both teams. So we will end that segment here, we'll get a short break. When we come back, we will finish up with some news in the beautiful game. Thank you. We'll be right back. Hey, DC right now at vision works all prescription eyewear. Every frame. Every brand is fifty percent off. Yup. A nifty fifty percent. Thanks to our friends and family event. What's even better? It applies to both glasses and sunglasses. That's right. At the vision works friends and family event. You can save fifty percent on all prescription eyewear. Why? Because we like you a lot vision works. We're here to help you some restrictions apply see store for details. Hey, sports fans football season's here and it's time to get in on the action with my bookie. My bookie is the industry leading sports betting website that offers real Vegas odds on football baseball, and all your favorite sporting events. 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It's all in here, Golden State media, concepts, sports, but cast listen. And welcome back to the GMC soccer podcast. Of course, I'm Mark and my good buddy here, Jeff. What's his name Mellon off? All right. Okay. Granted. Okay. Yep. Got any other questions here. All right. Was birthday. Yeah, we're not that good. To be fair. I don't really know too many of my friends birthdays off the top of my head to I like the the time of year that my friend's birthdays I know one of my when my closest friends he's literally like fifteen days right after mine. I know my wife's birthday and that's should. That's all that I need. Right. I mean parents to, I guess. Yeah, I know that there's too and my sisters. I know my brothers. I don't all my sister-in-law. I'm sorry guys. Loves them to death, but continue speaking of birthdays. Do you know that Cristiano Rinaldo and neymar share birthday. Okay. Like the same date, February fifth, the same person, they're not the same age, but it is kind of crazy that those two players actually share birthday. But regardless moving on as I've clearly lost Jeff here. I don't know. We got the verdict fact, so also. So the MLS Major League Soccer season is coming to a close. Teams are vying for the playoffs right now top six from each conference make it looks like out west, the galaxy or currently on the outside looking in. I think it would be a shame if they don't make the playoffs just because I wanna sees lot ton Ibrahima vich in a playoff game. He's a draw. He's been great for the league. He's been fun to watch. What do you make of him what he Novell's a lot on. Probably the most popular soccer player in America at the moment. Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. Maybe him or Carlos Velez various hot. The messy, of course, just. Yeah. Like MLS players for sure. I mean his, his presence really doesn't get the love of others other other, no. But I think there's a lot of tons presence has been great for the league, and it just shows that players kind of coming here earlier and earlier as getting up there in age, but he still has something in the tank. He could definitely play for a lot of big European clubs, especially Champions League clubs. He would definitely do well for them. Start for them make an impression, but him actually being in LA I think is good for the growth of the sport here, but they can't. We sit outside of the playoffs. They're only a couple of points behind that last playoff spot. They're actually they could go as high as fourth looking at the standings now. Yeah, Carlos villa. The other l. LA team Elliott c owned by wolf fairl. Did you know that was on my win the new Los Angeles club? Elliott. See, this is their first year in the us. They're owned by LA team LAF see. So now there's two soccer teams to of two basketball teams to football teams in baseball team to baseball team Anaheim. They're not. They're not called. They're actually called the Los Angeles. I thought there the angels. I thought they were just the angels of Anaheim. They have LA hat on their hat a with the, no, they don't halo the angels. Yeah, I'm looking at Hala regardless kidding me. No, they have the regardless back to soccer. Elliot see owned by will fail. So they're having greet for season. Carlos villa is their star player, the Mexican international. He's definitely put his Mark on the league. Hey, I'm showing pick their hats. I'm just showing him a picture of the logo. Okay. Anyways, we'll have all right, fine. Move on some notable fixtures in the world of soccer other than MLS Barcelona. They play at Valencia this weekend out there. I don't see an l like they had a California Angels hat, but that was, I don't see any l. always been just in a. All right. We'll revisit this later. Bursa Luna's at Valencia. Both teams matching up this weekend coming off. Big Champions League ties this week influence. You just drew Manchester United in Manchester, so they'll be returning home study masala to play against Barcelona who will becoming off their midweek Champions League clash with Tottenham Hotspur in London. So notable game. They're something to look for Barcelona and Valencia. Both teams, two teams to the top clubs in Spain. Of course, I wanna needs no introduction of their own Real Madrid. They play Alvis should be an easy win for Real Madrid. Don't see too much there, but of course they need to score goals. Maybe they can get on track this weekend by putting a few in the back of the net against inferior opponent. Also in Italy. Now, we know Rinaldo was suspended for this week's clash in the Champions League, but he. He will return to the starting lineup assumingly. I am of course against Yudin Nessie Juventus has a chance here to build a off this match by Dobalina where he showed how classy is how good he is on the ball and how he can make things happen. Scoring goals, play making. It would be really nice to see him in. We're in all the pair up together, an attack opposing defenses. Of course, Juventus they don't lack ofensive firepower. They have guys like Manzu kitsch, Quadra toe. Other players who can definitely definitely strike fear and opponents. But let's be honest, if Rinaldo into bowl or scoring goals, if they're creating chances and they're both on form that is a nightmare for opposing defenses. So we'll be interesting to see. How'd you ve inches uses them if they'll use the bowl of top next to Rinaldo or if they'll have him play kind of underneath. To number ten attacking midfielder role. As for the soccer podcast for the week. I think we are off Inish here. I'm still a little bitter, but how you think the angel Anaheim in LA in Heim, whatever we're gonna get in this leader, we'll if you want to listen to us talking about baseball, turn into the baseball pockets on Wednesdays, and we do all types of sports on this podcast on in the mornings on Monday through Friday, and we'll, we'll see you tomorrow for tomorrow. We're doing the sports podcast, the football pockets, and then the basketball podcast. Yep. Check out those football basketball baseball. We do a total sports podcast, so be on the lookout for those. Of course, Markham signing off for today. See. Listening to the Golden State media concepts, soccer podcast, part of the Golden State media concepts, podcast network. You could find this show and others like it at WWW dot g z podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes, stitches sound clock. 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"Welcome to the. ESPN APP sneak studios with the Saturday edition of the show and Stevie Nicholson Sebastian. Salazar with you with a little bit later on from Frank Leboeuf as well. You'll never guess where Franks joining us from but will say that surprise for a little bit later in the show. Let's start in Syria Korea. The league leaders proventus facing off against her own squad that hadn't lost league place since December seven. Nineteen minutes. Google's cost off the crossbar. Well everybody's blocking off blocking off and then as a great slate unfortunately it it comes off the coast box corona. Here go ahead the header from Monash cool up bought. What gotTa get another look at it V. A. R. rears its ugly head correct? Really ready what do you mean what do you want better glasses. Then that's outside is so side right thirty six minute more woodwork. Proventus off the post man. Not Quite working here either. Forty first minutes. Let's just misses wide. The goalies I think basically both color to the oldest two minutes after that and all of the header off-target highly difficult header facing away from goal. Good Sir from Nicholas Costa. Though give this guy enough chances eventually he will break through sixty five minutes all the holding off his defender and then picking out the bottom corner you events. Take the lead a great goal into you too all right. Then it's through. The legs means you keep us sees it late. And it's in the back of the net conventis getting sloppy in the seventy six minute honest with a turnover fabio marine levels getting sloppy twice the attempted backheel Rhythm Corps puts into into the pass on the attacking player piano with a poor tackle eventually finds that far post one one should get insists about eighty four. Th Minute Corner Kick Verona. Hulas had off the crossbar. A Hawk bought again. Var comes into play a potential handball. The more than potential Bonaiuti Benicia right. Now no Venetia Go Away with the folks WanNa go this alone because he missed his head. No He's going with these arms show. Sousse apparently cake hung up for San Paolo Zini. The winner Beautiful Dagan is what it is perfection for own event. Two one winners over event this not some smash and grab more shots Verona more shots on goal and even more more expected goals for the host against the League leaders. As you see guys they're the stats. Tell the story. This was not unlucky from event is was it. Stevie is clean of the performance that we've seen from event still the season but they but they tailed themselves out kind of performance when we're now do school woes. The thing is going to be the mole though calm but then they make mistakes jake and they get punished on this occasion but advantage really hot but they better be careful. Because yes the Lawson goals today but I tell you what the one thing that really thought was. The biggest problem was gone forward. Who's who's WHO's pulling the strings whose whose splinter threw balls his whose magician here in the middle? Don't see how anybody at all the relying on Cristiano Doom wait those which is exactly the this game. Schools are go from nowhere and usually ends up with three point. Not Today and I'll tell you what. Be careful this just doesn't become the norm. Would you make a you there. I could not agree more with Stevie the assessment of what this team has been over the course of the season. It's no different than what they were. Today it's a handful of games in which has been truly dominant where they have carried the pace of the game and dominated and created opportunities and put away those opportunities -tunities and finish the game comfortably. That hasn't happened as smart as you may have thought this year and said yeah now people will say well only this many games games and and they found ways to get souls but if you look at it the talent of the performers since then you say eventually those things that when you're way early on they even out over the course the season so today when you hit the post twice and the ball doesn't bounce your way and then the other team does get those bounce twice in that first goal by what he then that's when things kind of even out over the course of a year and so if you don't pick up the the quality of your performance individually and as a group eventually you're GonNa Wanna find yourself in situations like this one. This surf to win the game the other thing I would say that the dependency on Cricketer Aldo and whether he scores goals or not it is becoming stronger and stronger heavier and heavier to the point to where you don't know where goals are going to come from unless he creates aches then and he scores them. They're not coming from me Wayne Right now. They're not coming from the US and then after that you start looking around you go wait a minute. Aren't they supposed to be better than this. And and yet you don't get the sense that this team really has maximize their potential Josette. egg-laying Chill Sheila Issue was a fluke. Got Off to a great start the season. I thought no way this guy can be this. Maybe he's just in the wrong place now he may have off to a decent star. I'll see a decent stop up but in this game today I'll tell you what he would have been as well next day. I was watching this game. Because when he's not getting any service he gives you absolutely zero and you just said we don't know where the surface is coming from. No we don't know who the player that it's GonNa take somebody on the outside and put the ball into to a dangerous area where he can make a difference for you. Sometimes we find now we wind in a position where he drops in as a playmate. Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute window. World the state back wine playmaker. That's that's not what he does best but why is he doing this because well okay has the freedom to appear wherever he wants to. And there's no service coming from anywhere else and so therefore your opinion arousal score the goals or that's it. I hear people talking boots or pure niche gun each that this guy's never been gene the Silky torch that plays balls through and and makes posses and kills you. He's never been that guy but if it's not who has it because it's not Romsey Armand Davala after time. He's on the bench. Where is it coming from? You mentioned Renaldo those goal and the dependency on him but that was vintage stuff today. Yes but look where the goal came from. He picks up the ball. All in his defensive. Half runs about thirty yards passes guy then lays the ball off. The ball is then played into space. He keeps his run going and eventually sixty yards down the feel he'd take somebody one on one creates aerospace and scores a goal. If that's what you're depending inorder to win games if you're a director's then that's it's a problem because in that gray goal that quality. Gold Dawson happen every game. Even for a guy like any has to come from other people as well so that doesn't have all the attention on him so that there are moments in which he can be the guy receiving the ball in an advance area where he doesn't have to run six yards to score a goal. They've lost two of their last three in the league. This year is beginning to feel like it. You know I used to feel every time you've been stepped on on the field regardless of of good hope by the where the Soho always figured out. But I'm beginning illusion that I'm beginning to lose that trust that that. That's what's going to happen and Stanley view. Relying on a full year old to run sixty one year game every week that you see this is the a year while if there was ever year this seems to be the one however every time that there's been an opportunity for enter the take that step and say we are. We're here for the rates. We are here for the five. We're here for the party. They have found a way to take a step back and take it forward all right. Let's move on elsewhere. In Syria Syria Fiorentina hosting allowed to add allowed to try to hold onto that fourth spot in the table. Pick this one up in the thirty second minute. And then he cook as from and I mean stints and Ali Urine Tina take a one. Lead won't be ready. Little backlift uplift here which is A. I'm I'm thinking why the goalkeeper gets done because it doesn't look owner for the ends up the back of the net second half runs up Outta in the tap in Atlanta. Even say you Rinjani barely outside I think about this turning a deficit into elite Roussillon. Molina ski we call the Chola Dizzy. Cutler's gone or mobile only grove. It is well. Did the three points for the Lonzo. They take Advantage of Roma Stumble yesterday to slide into that glass champion's the spot and of of course the big one on Sunday intimate off and a similar. ESPN plus your home for tomorrow's Melon. Derby two forty five eastern time. We'll have a live studio covered surrounding the match interns second heading into this one. AC Milan in ten for a little more call on gap Mongkok. It's the data that I'm under Nina. The Milan Dr being named for the Golden Statue of the Virgin Mary which sits atop the duo in Milan. The city stops and the rivals. Go at it. Obviously this comes. At the end of the weekend injure will already no what they have to do to keep pace and closed the gap or maintain the GOP as it were With you Got Some stuff off to figure out. There's no bus stony toback. Goldeen could start. He could actually be benched as well. Either way in favor of but either way obviously inter weaker at the back. He's got another issue as well. It's not guaranteed by any means that Christian Ericsson's Going to start. There's no doubt Martinez Upfront. He may opt to play. Play Eriksson off of Lukaku or he may opt to not play them at all. Bolster the midfield with with another sort of more two-way midfielder. Like perhaps frontiers the Sinoe on the other front for me line. They've had a bit of up and down time but the good news the big man slots then he Brahima. Vich should be back from his flu. He he trained didn't participate in full training. But but he certainly trained on Friday and and They hope to get him out because he doesn't want around that much That's not as big a deal Also Benazir coming back in the middle of the park which is absolutely huge for stiffen. Look the reality is. It's Darby so people say predictions and logic goes out the window. I think Can Get a point off of this inter team. I think is a really really big miss for until you you ought to put a gun to my head. I'm going to tell you what to drop but then again I know what it's what's up at the Darby and I always say on the fence given the defeat by events today what an opportunity here all for enter a great opportunity and one that they should take advantage of and while people want to focus on the fact. This is darvish. Throw everything out the door. Whatever you cannot ignore ignore the fact that Mellon struggles creating opportunities that the presence of Latin Rahima which has actually allowed us to have a focal point in their attack but it also paints a picture of how difficult it has been for them in order to create opportunities? You need at thirty eight year old man to come in here and make a difference for you. So if you're inter never mind the fact that it's a derby harvey how `Bout you focus on the fact that you have better players out on the field you have been more consistent than me and you should be creating opportunities and you should be scoring. Thirteen is is not being available. Yes it's a big mess but that's why you have this other players that you have brought in so Alexi. Scientists in Christian Erickson and players of quality and talent should be good enough to beat me line and more importantly should be good enough to catch deventer's and make sure that you got into Milan have had their struggles some big game so far this season you and he's any struggles tomorrow. No because not quite sure where Milano Milano GonNA help them. That's that's the biggest thing that sticks in my mind the fact that enter out the the home say they will have the the home support behind them and of course we get beat today. That does everything for them and if they will rely on his Ali said Gob websit a thirty eight year old guy. WHO's not relying on running around after that? Where's it coming from for free? See Milan so you gotta go with a similar in the nineteen points back of Inter Milan ahead of the Milan. Derby reminder plenty more action on the Syria Sunday schedule highlighted by third-place. Lots you visit Parma Napoli Hosting Lecce. 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Imagine the Bundesliga on Saturday and entertaining one as well fifth-place Leverkusen hosting third-place Dortmund John Making his first start for Dortmund the twentieth minute Leverkusen's strikes. I Kevin Volant Shiva punish filings all over the show. He's on site. I look at us for the funny spot. Plastic game was back and forth. Just two minutes later. Matt's homeless that our night service to the near post talking with a free run at the ball great headed to the far post. One one saw him at the top of the highlight. You'll see again here thirty second minute. Amre Giancarlo Giancarlo. I mean what field things techy spot and then delivers I mean. Look at the wet. A top corner no keeper. Courtesy Dies Dortmund up to one heading to the half hold on a second volun- again due to good service to the fire. Pose a little long walls full bag to a dangerous area. Queen contact contact through the legs of the defender to Jaden Sancho in the fifty. Second Minute GonNA score however I don't know if you guys have heard of this this this thing called VR all. Yeah we're going way back and the guy who actually gets in trouble here too you know Lonnie Raina youngster for foul. How earlier in the build-up still two fifty eight rain and trying to atone and Lucas Reinecke to say deflation Mueller. That makes it hard for the sixty third ave it's off. The Post goalkeepers going far pose no closer to the near post but not so much and finally just minutes after that a breakthrough through the ghetto. Nice Low Baltim-. He's angle bookkeeper look seven of living covered but he flashy bomb coma. Dortmund out three to less than half an hour to play what could go wrong. Well Here's a start the on on daily. How about that fool finish finish by Liam Bailey by the defending where the center bikes? It's so easily broken as by the lines at ball through nobody picking up the tagging player sliding challenge this talent up through the fetal Liam Bailey. Three things go from bad to worse Sir door in just a minute later bars bender. Four three Leverkusen support was through settling Pitkin Bender Bahia tax it and said glancing header off the pools last chance here for dorm and ninetieth over the bar. No no no no no. I'm not sure why he's jumping is in anti position. He's wide open. All yes they do put his head on and he jumps amid. Stein's it for three Leverkusen. Big Win for Leverkusen Dortmund missing out on a chance to he'd been touching distance with the top. Two nobody in Munich and Leipzig will meet tomorrow tomorrow. In unit now Dortmund's recent results have been exciting however they have been scoring and shipping some goals of late there. We see it And then the four conceded against Leverkusen today of course Dortmund going to face off against a PS G in the Champions League. Frank Michael Booth with us now Frank if you're fan you've got to be loving what you're seeing from Dortmund's defense. Yeah maybe but nobody nobody. Nobody more than the peace fans knew that in that time of the season Parsons Jemma. I've developed the business of question marks the we. We don't know what's going to was going to happen in in the player's head and we just hope that they're going to be very strong and strong enough especially mentally two two phase dot one remember that last year it should have been an easy run against punches through united and they've been out of the competition Asian because none. Let's say contrition mental figure so well we just hope that Players going to do the job and no matter what is quite bad the result of right now boy doormen look fragile Agile Ideal House there. Is there a worse word tragedy. We can use everybody fragile. It'd be happy absolutely all over the show the to Shin of bikes with an absolute joke. But going forward they can cause you all kinds of problems. So it's it's prey simple for P as G. They defend half normally can they are they capable of that thing that capable then they go through because dominate cannot defend for the the life fragile. When you wrap up a box as you're sending and you put that thing of fragile all over it never mind with Russia dorm? It's already broken. Whatever you're sending is already broken so it doesn't matter how you pack it up? The truth is that you lose a doberman defend and it's difficult to make a case for them because even against a team Leverkusen still has some talented attacking players but not nearly as talented us. What is going to offer so you imagine the matchup so Neymar oven bobby against that back line against all that space and space for everybody who attacks and place against them because the way they they liked to play they like to play open they like to attack? They like to run into spaces. Guess what when you do that. You also Lee spaces and you also are liable to be attacked. If that's the case Jason Pierce G runs all over Bruce Doorman we heard earlier from Frank. leboeuf one of his former teams on the big Marseille doing well in the French league but most importantly there Chaka's power rankings. There you go. I play the game really opening minutes. Eragny seconds around the keeper but who's kind of ranges is that by the way don't normally keep as themselves bay and they still couldn't school This Guy Gordon with uh-huh okay. All right the goal is better but this one is delicious as well. From the military by looping over the goalkeeper courtesy does he died one. Nothing Marseille Marseille. Get the three points. They're still a nine point cushion for some quick. It Matters Franko Marseille's in chocolates power. Rankings are impressed. Are you by your former club. I am very much because I have to be on. Astor never thought that they will do that. Well at the beginning of the season I thought they would finish like five or six. But I'm pretty sure that you're gonNA seconds especially tonight Rhine Dragan breast and so I think they are eight months ahead of the of the third from third place. So they're doing great the degrade defensive damage better damage because of a better defense bill so fantastic. Let's see good keeper Stephen and also because they funded captain back by it is absolutely outstanding and when pieties these are these best the club and the team is better. Some people are saying that he has to be back to Nashville the national team. I think so too because they ah really genius when he plays like that and is a player that I'm very fond off. But he can disappear suddenly so awfully four four Mossy seems to be Very consistent this season and he's going to bring Marseille to to a second position which is fantastic for massive this year. 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Build up eventually ball falls to Bernard out after a one time. Finish TASSIE coach Volker. I mean something. We don't see often enough from him. And the finished Michalowski Volley You mentioned wall. Twenty four th minute. He goes off injured. Gebriel see debate is ready to come in except not quite notice if you only had one one saw so we got to be up. Carlos upset I guess he found this fifty. FIRST MINUTE INVENTEC A sneak this one pick for. Oh Shit yeah yeah it is it is. You're bad you're correct Jordan it. It is your back Mirabeau's and ride on their his arms and My goodness six minutes later palace corner all flying lying off the post the whole attempt to head of new post a minute later though Charleston. Two one impressive here in this room is not only the finished the speed with which he ran with the ball turn of the defender around and found a Finnish. The are both eighty eight. Th Minute Everton looking for a clincher. They get it. Dominic Calvert Lewin Madero Moreno range. A Hundred Rooney owned biondo ever all the way up to seventy one point out of fifth. They've won five of eight in the premier league since Carlo Ancelotti charge. Let's get back to the video that got everybody talking SEDIBA here. What do we make this? This is this is not what I thought it was going to be clearly. SEDIBA isn't the smartest tool in the shed and and has just forgotten to put a sock on before these Komo. What did you think it was? And the reason I'm seeing because it's agency somebody told to come on and then they don't have the shut on or they don't they shouldn't pods are all that she's bad preparation and my upbringing this just for schol. You're right now. What we anything like that they? I've seen a couple. You know when teams usually if it's outside or whatever. They have the jacket on and stuff when they go and lineup so I don't remember exactly where we were but we had the jagged. It's time to go play and we'd take our jackets off and most of us have the uniform on one of our guys had The training uniform so how scramble undo it and the whole thing is that if you go on win the game nobody cares about it but if you go on it wasn't prepared manager that's gotta drive you crazy right. Yeah if you're an inch so I would. I would prefer that one was just forgets as opposed to something being lazy used just unprofessional. Nobody thinks it's weird that he didn't forget both socks like that. He only forgotten one leg. I got all this stevie onset time. Hey there welcome into this whole Saturday edition your time. We look at me a rise there. Hey is that what I look like you. I Blake Steve Nicol Alejandro Moreno in Studio with me Sebastian we also had not in studio frankly behind where are beautiful. That's Beautiful Roy. I mean Switzerland guys. I'm in in a cabin at some friends place. So that's a quote by the way and that's a very very comfortable. It's a very comfortable. I think I'M GONNA sleep over here because it's nighttime right now so I'm GonNa skip very nice tree from the desert behind the friend that I am with a as a as a charity in Uganda. So he goes to freak out a lot so he brought a little bit of Montaigne and Africa which is a nice combination. I think See You were trying to make fun of it. There is charity behind. Thank you Charlie. We discussed neymars birthday party earlier this week on on the show. No it wasn't OK. Well Jewels who's there Frank or you jealous that you didn't get the invite like did two neymars birthday party. I am a little bit and I thought that will count more for for name juice but not the case. Got To be really stick. These is favorite French body. So so that's normal the to go there but I was on stage that that night to so we'll have to deny the invitation. So it's for the best. I Guess Headline Frank leboeuf would've turned down Neymar party. Invite but but you see how francs as well yeah. I was a little affected by stage that night. So there you go. I have priorities. I could not have attended. Come to import sure. And that's what we call a humble brag. Yes exactly what this coming to the boys in studio people post by the way he would have the opportunity to wrap himself around those beautiful comfortable. Blancas Lancaster. The WOAH COME CORRECTS theory. Best Point you've made today. What was your favorite stadium to have played football in Steve I'll start with you. I guess we'll let's leave the obvious choice choice. I would say humdrum park and with with why is better than new. Emily Cap. Not only you know who's on your face that's it. Because of the historical importance scenario in Montevideo Uruguay and also because we won bear off Woodbourne correct against the white correct moment. In general. I know you did. I was trying to get your attitude power. I just give fights for Mac out Out Opinions Yes there are many many stadiums in in South America. That have that sort of historical importance by center. Nadia on WWL. It's impressive impressive. When you're there and you know everything that has happened in that stadium and if you are a fan of the game then you're drawn to that sort of thing frank? You got a favorite stadium. Yes I would name the old Wembley because of the history and the atmosphere you can find an. I won't couple of cops there and the name Sinn Jim Spark In New Castle the atmosphere is unbelievable. So I really loved the fleeing there. Yeah those great. Did you guys know Frank won a couple of cups at Wembley Brags Frank coming right back out to you for. This is one frank who is more of a flop for Barcelona then belly or Greece men. Well then billy for for me Krizman as As a bonus for me that he's just but for them bill is getting very annoying and Mike unquote catastrophe. Since he's been there because he he's been so many injured we can see the quality. Consistency is the most important thing. When you're you'll football player and he has any reinar? He's been to too many times in our next question. Comes from Craig Burley Therapist. Second Question Ashton today so Craig Burley. That's a busy person. Well they're not that busy now so craigslist people were sorry right. 'cause he's off right now. Let's see if you see her. Then we would have the need for thirty. He would have a need for it we would need. Yeah he's keeping everybody employed Stevie. Listens for you if you were Tina. Would you rather take the united job or athletic Madrid assuming simione elites absolutely one hundred percent of the United Really. I don't see how Athletico Madrid are ever going to get above the other two again away for united. Well because my Chechen go very important thing these days and it's a lot of money but they've had that money all along. I have a late funding. Yeah well see. He gets intense and then he likes to get in your face. I love you for the debate. We they say a newly married newly Mary. You May WanNa let your wife Finish talking. The word edgewise at home. Talk again anyway as it was before so so rudely interrupted again by you with a money. Money and eight congenitally two pieces of the puzzle appropriate head coach and somebody to consult transfer dealings and correct monitor those two. PC's Ray is no the reason why they can't get back to. The top of the tree will the wounds went on the failure so athletically burn up Eddie. S At what age did you realize that soccer was. Your special talent played baseball and other sports before you kind of locked in on soccer. Yeah Yeah Bud God. You couldn't die baseball visual and I was going to give you triple honest answer and then this is this as you. Get the heartstrings. It's difficult to work in this. Yes it is yes it is but I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I I would say that very early on when you're running away from kids and you're scoring goals and you feel that. Ross you you go wait a minute I better than most of this guys around here and and for anybody who has ever had that feeling you know what I'm talking about and you want that to come back every single time so you can't wait to get back on the field whether it's practice. Where's the game field and you have bad from a very early age it? It happens very quickly. What you understand? Man I'm good at this people. Tell me I'm good at this. I know I'm good at this. I love doing this. Maybe you remember when it clicked for you. I don't remember ever no other Nepal right and the don't remember ever won anything else oven the bowl and it was the only thing I was ever interested. Do you remember more like Google this. I'm better than the others. Yeah he he figure. Get out pretty quickly when you leave school in the room. Everybody but there's a big difference between that and actually become a but I it to that point. It's when it's it's very basic principle of when you're in school school yard and they're picking teams and you're the number number one pick. That's usually a good sign that hey you usually pick in my own right. Is there an age limit to where you you can reach that. Because I'm still kind of waiting. No no no no no. It hasn't happened by a certain time you know Rape List Export Steve Nichols Personal Chef Johnson with our final question. This is a question for Frank Frank. This person says that my sister was in France and she we saw one of your shows and was really impressed. Do you do anything in English. I I would if somebody has some interest about it It's it's difficult another technique. It's it's sobbed when it's not sure native language anguish to to be very reactive in image it's Situation but could try. That would be very good exercise. Somebody's nobody's interested in Newark. Could play your friend guy completely lost in London. That would be great or New York. I'll tell you well I'm assuming I'm assuming you have experience uh-huh Chelsea on a Saturday night you will find sometimes. Yeah Yeah Yeah that's true that's true. I yeah that's true. I I tell you what I love me some friends. Yeah totally right in there. Already pitch the idea to whatever produce out there looking to do. We need somebody we. We need a French guy. WHO's lost in London? Where can we find that guy? That's never crossed his mind before. Is there no matter. What company do we work for two? Does this Disney movies I'm just so Franks right. He knows what he's doing. The rest of us are just pretended. He knows what he's doing. He's playing in chess. UNBELIE BRYK hard. Thanks frank thanks thanks to Stevie. Oh all right. Sorry if I cut you off just got excited. The listened over the last time. We'll be the last time this week. I won't be back tomorrow so you can get everything.

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Serie Awesome: Time to Drop Ronaldo?

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Serie Awesome: Time to Drop Ronaldo?

"It's the awesome podcast and web back discussing cussing another weekend of games as ever. I am joined by Gab. Not and of course Nikki Bandini as everything. That's happened over the weekend. Kent and the fact that event is no longer the the league leaders because we have a new one in into. What's going on with with you? Vent is because we've got Renaldo sulking not attending the ban on door. Because he didn't win it Collini come out and said he was robbed last season which to his I agree we with and let's be honest right now. He just kind of looks like a luxury player. You sort of both but you can. So you having to alternate do Ballerini Wayne. Hi We deal with Rinaldo. I rinaldo the to Georgetown obviously yeah so not Cristiano Balladur. We've had this election from before if I were to play Christiana Fan boy I would say we'll of course she didn't go because he was busy accepting the player of the year award at the Italian League League awards. And by the way I censor coming on we're GONNA get into all this come on this. Whoever it is goes and organizers this nonsense why would you have the official Italian Shadia team and whatever the hell of the season awards right? There's this thing that you work for years years ago on the night of the balance door when you know. Christiano Ronaldo there's a chance Mussolini's schedule. There was a chance he could win it. I Dunno about other a player. Might one day be nominated for and it's the same freaking night. You have a fixture scheduled because of course comedy played some audio last night and it was acting game of the week tremendous game fish four three. Why because I think they just figured no? Italians are up for the awards. Let's go around. There was up for me. I don't like someone just flat. Check the date and then they let it once it had happened. They W didn't refuse to change Congress. Callous okay at Meena Markazi Nikki. Ben Dini please league teams. I know you don't know the president right now because because a very arcane and complicating boring reasons but you do have people who still work at that league. Somebody's schedule this. Come and Callus. Why are you trying to go an obvious skate? Euroleague and make your product crappier. Is this your goal. I'm sure it's not so you can tell that trump just met with Gavin. cavs day. Five discussion before about. He doesn't go to awards that he doesn't win. And whatever I made the point I don't I don't know why you care. There's so much about these types of awards you said it's because he's a competitor boom. I'm done this is what he's done is nothing new. It's what he does if you WANNA hate him for hating waiting for twenty years we've been discussing the fact he doesn't show up. Yes he's Betcha island. Yes he's that guy that guy. Let's just stop discussing. I didn't want his constant the topic of conversation. You're the big shot fan here so I'm going to stick up for kicking. I love it. When decides what what we are just the signs the assigns that role I look I have? I have very little strong feelings about about on door. In general I'm talking about 'em this Amina beforehand. I think became disillusioned with the Balladur and my sort of feeding about what I think. It should be. which is entirely subjective and everyone is free to tell me I'm an idiot for it but in two thousand and ten when ways Ida shows up at basically is the difference in winning a treble then carries Holland into the World Cup? Final doesn't win. I get that he was not if you were picking the space jam team to beat. The MARTIANS ran that year then he would not necessarily be. Oh I pick but he was the most influential player that year in football and he should have won. I'm once we came to this conclusion that it's not just for the the heart care about. Yes Maxime are now the two best players in the world. They happened for ages. And I don't know there's there's a way to fix this and give them. There's so many any stupid awards out there. This would differentiate your word. Change the rule so that you can only win the award once so that once you want it. You're in some kind of magic circle of exploitation. You can never win it again and not what you can go and you can reward people like my one. Reward Van Dyke or or whatever That would be a way to make your award different. I see the idea and so on but hey everybody listening no come on. I'll be honest. I mean we're not just should've maybe one loss to you that I don't know I see him. Being the lead lead candidate Venice season onto the Rinaldo. Okay Rinaldo got a lot of stick for his performance in this game against us. Well well obviously finished. Two two people highlighted the defensive mistakes and they were really really bad. I'm sure we'll get to them Rinaldo. WHO's Kinda kind of humorous incident? When D- Bala shoot shoots and you figure is definitely going to score and run although standing? What do you not see the ball to do? Just jump over the ball or just step sideways or what. He's actively trying to make us news. Now what's the deal. What's the problem? Is there a problem I it was funny. Actually because initially my my diagnosis of this tuition was he was really happy. Event is no longer feeding that massive urge. I do the happy event is right now. I think that this is driving him crazy when he's doing what people are doing in the Champions League but I don't know whether this is the injury or whether the fact that he doesn't have a midfield that walks the him the way that he did a Real Madrid. I think that there is a lack of like right now. You've entered just looked like a collection of individuals they told look like a team unit and oh I think that he thrives off a team unit. This is great time for the likes of Egwu anion and e Bala to show off what they've been dying to show off that they all these great players who can score these magnificent agnes int- goals but to be honest. The fact that you know we can this is what really bothers me about Saudi. Like you've been bought on to create a team that plays beautiful football people. But I still don't know who they are right now and I thought he was very cautious in the sense that he was only playing those three together for what on a half an hour. Why not if you can't afford Oh to play all three against our swallowed and tell me when are we ever going to have the ambition to play good football against good teams if that's too scary to play the front three against I wanna any team in which I have to consider whether it's Guano de ballot because frankly speaking right now they both deserve to win to play another one who deserves to be on the bench spot on Rose Racing Meena spot on Mickey? Yeah I basically agree in Matt Am. I don't think I mean this is the awkwardness Renaldo. And if you didn't see see this coming though sign then I can't help you now. There's you cannot drop him like you're dropped right. But he's the the awkwardness is that event signed him at a point where he is older at Madrid he never needed to be dropped except maybe a little bit. He did when he started getting some injury. Problems was ended managed to just manage that right so he was able to be fully fit for the most important games. We still don't know and we will not know because we're not there in the medical room. How much turnout those being affected by injury? But I think it's unquestionable what you just said right now is true the event disability best when it is he coined and there's no question about. I think there's another other element to this and this is something which is very Italian invariably venting just freaking obsession with results because if we WANNA break this this game down. There's an incredible story on the other side involving swallow right so if you if you if you try to take a step back you would notice that. They've got this. Eighteen eighteen year old keeper comes in his name is rocky which makes it even cooler. He's the third choice keeper. He makes debut he makes at least two tremendous saves saves the one from the fruitcake later. He confesses that you know my legs were shaking the whole time. You know normal circumstances Renaldo scores one or two goals you know. Oh he did get on the end of it and he did us some good shots. What the penalty? But whatever I mean why. Don't you go from open play. You linked to score a bunch of goals in normal circumstances you don't defend like the keystone cops at the other end and we'll need to talk about before intellect again And everything's fine but my concern is you haven't played well for a very long time. I used the plane bound. Not The plane beautifully. Not The stakes only care about that in terms of creating chances not conceding chances and you know what they didn't do that for a long time in these final season either and everybody says like Oh but it's fine no funeral I feel great because they play badly and win. No it just means you play badly Liam one whatever reason thanks for the warning signs have been here for some time. But that's not even my issue. My issue is that the whole point of Saudi. Whichever one it used to be like hot about when it was illegally was that there it was cautioned? Oh he always has on the side of caution. Oh He's always defensive again. This kind of seems to me that that's what you said you're not getting the Saudi of Napoli. You're getting a Saudi Arabia. So I think you're spot on. This is a different Saudi. WHO's trying to be something different? And he's basically trying to be I. You know a version of of illegally and not a good verse so I I I understand that I also think that criticism awesome was thrown. A lot of Syria. Chelsea was playing football that everyone had been promised from from Napoli. And I think that you could at least make a case and You can decide yourself how you go with it. That sorry took most of that season at Chelsea to start getting his football team so it did come but it didn't come this Season Chelsea I would take a totally opposite view and say that it actually. His football came very very early and then he adjusted partly because of Eden Hazard partly because of the need to get results later in the season and he kind of turned into something else in fact. That's that's the point. A lot of people made one-sided came into use oh but he's fine because beneath that he's also pragmatic attic and he and he showed it later in the season at Chelsea. Okay there's not obtain at Chelsea and I agree with that but I also think that I mean certainly not but he didn't get it straight away. The point is that when he demands if his attack what he wants to instill didn't sit not only is not something that is easily learned overnight now contrast to draw because actually can't say has just put some things in a pretty much overnight but the the interchanges the things that we do we praise Napoli for with that. It will Smith's that was. You can't do that because you have different players different quality but whatever you're doing if it's something intricate if it's something complicated you can't necessarily get it in. Three is the the defense I think he can give him. Would I especially if you've got to always take up until November before. He found his from day one. Sarah himself often of set out loud. Basically doesn't have to play within the system so he's trying to build the whole system ten players yes but again a luxury player because what you get with Renault. Those fussy one of the all the two has to be benched another thing is you need a midfielder who covers for him. So you're losing that aspect as well so right now to me now. There's a luxury play until he finds his feet. I'm going to be with him sitting on the bench right now or playing in the magic wants to pay in which is trump was. Exactly this issue is if you can have a system that allows for now though but you can only really he justified that system. If we're now is doing what we expect. Today we should decide games like he's not the issue back home last season. I think when you talk about what happened at the back to with that goal because Judy Fong you know he got he got stick. Delicate stick by drought. Got Sick justifiably justifiably and I. I also thought there was huge. Screw up the first goal. Jeremy Bogart tremendous tremendous leadership. FM But equally. You've got an attacking corner at one end and you can see it at the other and that should never ever happen. I think in some ways that was even worse than the mistakes and the second one because then the second one they were three brain farts little aside though on Jayjay Boffon. Maybe it's just me and obviously I love gee-gee by I don't like the fact that he's like. Oh Yeah I'll L. comeback to you then you let me play ten or twelve game so I can set the city appearance record and you know in all hang out and help out I I would have much preferred to like. Do you want to set this up here in record go to Lecce go to some crappy team play every week be yourself and then set the record. Then that's fine but if you go to your at Uva the number one keeper should start and you should have a number twos number two and this idea at the club where they feel like Oh. Let's gee-gee game this week because we're just playing swale at home doesn't really sit right with me. He doesn't need to do this. And gee-gee senior running against us because it's spoiler but de Morales still rotting on the bench and not being able to give me give trump sweetie bothers me. I know I speak about it every week before slots we do. We didn't have a couple of we didn't have about onto a winner but we do have the young player of the year until He wanted Yesterday in the door at the one for the Youth System Copa Trophy. I think it's called Congratulations to him. He's been a bit of up and down up and down but it's an interesting game gain. That's coming up this weekend because what you have is a bunch of individuals that Saudi has created against a real team in what Simonian Argus created the goal-scoring scoring machine that is cheering mob. Nikki Nikki isn't a mobile fan at least when he when he's operating with she wants to be sure I have scored more goals than live on. DOS season. This is absurd this more than that. Isn't that because he's always giving them up exactly. He's given up to penalties now this season. So he's He's scored a few years. That I found I I respect. Take but this. This was the second time this season in a situation. I think this weekend. It's almost more extraordinary was on a hat-trick and hattricks strikers. I think he hasn't got one year. This season despite scoring seventeen goals and just says no that Lewis Battle Take it because there is backed scored for a couple of months like he's being selfless whilst also being streets ahead a serious top-scorer and I think that as you too so eventers Goto lots here this weekend. It is a shroud because they've just lost. First Place Interplay the night before says a chance. Even there may be a wider gap at the top by the time kickoff. Yes you Guinot Fashion Pfiffner for several. I guess for the first part of the season. I'm looking at them. Going okay. Inzaghi is really gotten into pretty consistent performance level over the last few the seasons and And it's high they have been on the verge of the Champions League without quite getting in I think this season they might have taken it. Another step forward not a huge amount huge. That have something transformative but I think that if you go two seasons ago they had this team. That was very much founded on Louis. Albert does Fish savage tandem behind immobile last season. Relinquish savage has this horrible year. A mobile it has slightly more indifferent. Year career comes in an ends up being very important to them and it feels like this season. For the first time you actually have all of that foursome all playing well and you were watching this game with the united and look it's only denies it who are quite bad but they are gonNa tell you see you see this sort of the variety of options that you have in that attack now. Because here's here's the guy who can run at defenders. You can take them on. Wins to in this game who can triple really effectively newest better toys city as leading assist provided. He's doing an excellent job of picking his passes by an attack attack. I'm an incubator. Savage finally starting to look like the Perry was two years ago again. The way he sets up this first goal is just everything. That's great about him. He's big strong. Hyun it if a player. He's like six three but he's also got really subtle feed. He's also going to pick a pick out in a busy penalty area. I think that's really important because the career Luis Alberto Mobile trio is they are are all most effective when Nazi are doing. What the first version of Latino did play on the counter? Sit Deep Soak it up into space but man anchorage savage when he plays like this gives you something that that the others dome which is breaking down a pack defense. It's being able to be in the mix handle at crowded area and still find your way through it and yet what I think is so beautiful about Latino is that they have these four offensive players. who was so great when they come come together but they still have defensive balance? They're happy to play with four going forward doing everything they can to get those goals. Whereas you've just can't afford to do more wouldn't you? At a time and still concede the goals up to some shooting won't be because it's like a hundred and Ken Goals One hundred fifteen goals over the last four years before this season now even more. So why can't he played. Center forward reliably for Italy. Why do you the white way always get jittery when I see the lineup and that dude is in the I know? I've been traumatized by the Sweden game but it can't just be that and before you come out and say oh but it said yeah. I Guess Bania these other Weirdo sides in Europe due to be able to score right. So who's fault is it so. He has scored in the last couple of games against yes lesser teams for for now. I think that for me. I don't want to sound like I'm knocking down. Because I think he's been Britain. I think when you look at him as a footballer he does not have the standout physical attributes us here. He's not he's not a classic number nine who can hold the ball up and can resist everyone we want. He's not someone he looked at and with the ball is feeding think. Wow that's a really super find technical lab what he is is Certainly someone who knows how to lose mockery tight space play. Think he's also just very efficient with his movement. I think he's very good at taking. That one set that gives him yard and then also getting shot very quickly now. Those are skills that can separate you against a level of competition but perhaps at the highest level of competition. Maybe he needs a very uneven it and he needs a very unique. I I mean I I keep using us today again. He's just one small. I guess it's that I don't know I I'm just still hoping and you know no disrespect respect cheeto. I'm hoping somebody comes up. I have been ought to get good all of a sudden healthy or manage. Can I just need need a striker to fall out of this guy so I can feel confident going into euro twenty twenty. I mostly agree with you but I think that on the confidence efficiency has right now if a mobilized like this I want to see him I think I wanna see those guys. Rumbled told me okay. So you've into stopping points that means that Inter had the chance skirt up at the table which took now I remember just two podcasts ago. Sitting here and we always we all we were all down on Antonio on your content as a way of speaking to the press and the stupid things that he would say. But I would like to say that I felt like I was the only one sticking up for actual results now. Two Games later. That top of the table We still saying the contest only doing a sufficient job. I think he's doing really good job on the pay is Nikki's revisionist history. Don't you back these podcast. Show the efficiency over. I think that issue was was that well my issue anyway. I don't want to speak for Gabby but for for me it's Fussy. Your team is very good so I'm not going to sit. There is a Ota. You have screen Ya and dry lukaku lateral Martinez and sense. But I let everyone wants and Oh yes. Oh well done for beating spot as in I look my point is is that the team is very good icing that you've performed below expectations fixations. They haven't lost many games. They haven't they haven't drawn you know. Well she had no even. You're right but it's about when it comes to. It's about the big matches right within like against Juventus against a Bosnian against you want there. Is that quality that that doc I miss and that is for me where I think that he's not great. Listen for me what it is. I know this sounds crazy but when you compare and and right now Saudi. It's Duma but it's like the team that they were both in charge over in one season you have conti who's good and wins every matches and it's never spectacular football but it's good and hard and Guittoune determined and then you bring in Syria. And then he does these wonderful things like gets these points against Juventus Napoli because they were both in Saudi Arabia. He takes be and he takes them far in the copy Italia. It's sad. He's the kind of guy that does things in the big teams against the big teams and shows. The quality of his size is a guy that wins against spell and against all the teams and get two the points to possibly win the me but the team is good enough to be at least second. Sorry let me remind you. We were critical of him around the time he was contriving to get into to eliminated from the Champions League against any group that contained the worst Barcelona in recent memory. The worst Dormant except for the Peter Ball Sara. Marie Slavia Prague okay so and also saying silly things about his players after throwing away. Tuna leads from Kellyanne. Exactly I it was also critically the things he said. I think you have a I. I think it needs to be set because I think there's this this stand. That's being set for him. Yes I agree. They've spent a lot of the money in this window. It's obviously signed good players however however he's going up against a team that actually is on top of already being ahead of everyone. This dropped one hundred hundred nine hundred on two players lost some just on election Renaldo. He's also He he's he's also comparible. And if you want to talk about money spent with hey didn't spend more money two summers ago. Continuing on seventy five million expectation dictation. You're you're you're you're basically saying it's impossible for him. If you're saying that competing for the title is not a High Enough Bob. No okay I always figure. I was hoping to talk about title Koku but since you know you turn day into the consulates rub it all in thing how about a few reminders. Such as the fact that a the team that he took over ended up getting knocked out in the group stage of the Champions League With the same goal difference as a team that advanced they got knocked out on a tiebreaker. And the reality for him is that he has yet to show that he can advance and by the way last year's team going to judge them. I'm going to judge series those full under splitting the grapes age. Because if you adjust couldn't disagree with you know they're they I haven't seen I haven't seen great performances. Frankly from either one. I saw our against Barcelona a little bit against Borussia Dortmund winning performances neither one. I don't think we've seen tremendous performance form inside out what we've seen is tremendous results and I give him credit at the weekend. The guy from the guy from calculating the guy from swallow the two. The two irrelevance weren't there. They are and they beat spa at home. Well done spot I think would scored. How many goals away from home going into? Let's check your Woah. You're trying to do even now trying to minimize the successes. Yes he beats. You know why which have never done is at play teams like spout every season every season. They play teams. I mean let's wait and see what he doing but when not saying go right. It's the first time in history that they won twelve out of fourteen. But I just want to remind you that she's going to seasons ago spell. Lat was in first place on the fourth and fifth and then they went terrible and playing turgid football. He's trained better football than does your. Let's give him credit for something he has realistically done. which is he's playing a front to which I was trying to think of been? Correct me if I'm wrong here. Sort of the top fifteen twenty teams in Europe to find who plays a front to sometimes arsenal under under emory. We know how well that went. and I think that's it and yeah if you want include Schwan include Lester. We see that we see that sometimes but then sometimes it's so I think it's remarkable and I think we have to give a lot of praise. These are two really really intelligent. Footballers mean Lukaku and not saying this. Because I saw him interviewed in Spanish unlike when the hell did you learn Spanish language but you know the speaks crypt. We speak six languages. People's all vendors speaks Japanese doesn't he can say good morning. Good bye right. You'll BIOS. Well I know exactly. That's that's Kinda level red but the guy is doing a post match interview in Spanish. The guy has never ever lived in Spain or played in Spain. We heard the story about how he learned Italian because he was watching his brother. Jordan on Sky Italia. That's great and then obviously obviously he speaks Flemish in English and all the other nonsense. That Belgians have to speak so but you know sneaking a lot of language you can tell a stupid things at many different languages. In fact there are people who do that but the intelligence of movement and the way he and Lukaku Kinloch dotto are are meshing in the way. They're moving living in the way. This content Stewart talked about the blind balls and how they during our actions are almost all vertical and the way they angled their runs. I think it's tremendous. They're also get help from the fact that most of their opponents aren't used to playing in strikers most are used to playing against the front three and I want to give credits and give the credit for for for that I know there are still a little powder me that's like I'm not sure about the intelligence of the movement because in many ways I look at the way that sort of they lost it last week against Torino and I just thought you know basically went out there and we're like here's the red carpet. Please scored games does. I didn't think that they were very intelligent. And their defense I don't necessarily thirty thing. This thing will spell in my opinion how I judge. Those two is by how they Oregon's actually could defenses and I think they're growing you can see there's a distinct difference especially in Lukaku for example from when he started and to what he's doing now I think he's much improved plan. It's already been in three months Louder Martinez still for me is the kind of guy who scores mostly in the very beginning when he's sort of surprising is opponents. I I want to say like. I don't know whether they'll be figured now. I don't want to judge and say yes. They have reached this level of intellect. I don't know yet because I'm not sure that they have faced opposition that have adequately defended against them because I'm stone zone entirely sure of that movement. Is that great. I think they will probably face into continue to grow and continue those impressed Nikki. So much It's astonishing to me. How E. S. twelve out of fourteen? Now come on you. You've pulled out. Why is twelve out of fourteen seen in this season when it's never happened before not impressive is fourteen points? Fourteen Games into the season. Yeah it's the same as you know when a team gets over one hundred points. It's it's just numbers at the end of the season. At what point. Allow yourself to get the team credit. No I just gave credit. I gave him. I gave him credit because without fancy and without you even though you know we've made fun of him for forty seven outstanding players without those two Amazing have father and and and and frankly I give him credit for the way he set up with Kakuta Lotto and this your point I think James will probably figured out and they will start gain planning against them because they do you make the same runs but you know what if I have to go and get my defense to defend differently in a way less comfortable because I'm playing against Cochran out that Oh that's already Netrokona because that will weaken something else me saying that's why okay so. Let's applaud. Their Hellas Verona. Because we're a mature for them. Do not necessarily sometimes you'll just pragmatic and good and you know. Oh how to stop two forwards. I don't I yeah I mean okay. You're you're right as he's going to imposes football but for me. I don't know yet how to judge to. This team is play point but I'm I applaud them for that consistent. That's always I I personally am. I'm all aboard the Tattoo hype train. I think he's going to become something good Shall we move on chew their opponents this weekend. Aroma how're you. How how is a guy doing on the meter this? I'm still love although I'm so disappointed that evaluated better than Fonseca but I thought it was Hanson Innings. He is just a wonderful Listen I love the fact that he seems to really be getting a grip on Saturday. You know like okay. Let's go out attack. Okay let's take this back in like defended a little bit. Let's the little bit more courageous now because we've gone to defensive. That's fine balance. Let's try to you know Boost possession stats but at the same time. We're playing paying Hasbro. Not let's be pragmatic I. I think that everything he does is intelligent. But if I watch this game over and over again I'm still at a loss as to how Verne didn't get the points points because they were for me a much to watch in the way that they played think they all they lacked was the efficiency to really make those chances count and I. I am surprised because I'm not a fan of Jewish. I was initially in my soul his flaws but this this Verona sided stromer. I thought it was exceptional. Play the fact that Roma Has Pellegrini. Who for me is one of the most intelligent midfield as I've seen what a what a glorious player to watch you know? It's great for them. That may Qatari. Sorry in his back and scoring goals and that will boost his confidence. There's so much about Roma that we should be happy about but for me this was a game. They should have at least one. If not lost. Nikki how confident are you that. The Palestinian upstanding incredible twelve out of fourteen gene or whatever it is record will stay intact and the win again. I feel good about this. All of a sudden his record. We'll stop being as good as it was the week before. I I think that even if they lose this game I still think that he's doing a good job. I'm sorry this is such a ridiculous argument. I think you think it's a really good point. The winning twelve out of fourteen is an impressive. I don't know why you keep repeating it but okay good. Do I think they'll be Roman Seri no through and Para Fonseca's doing a pretty good job. I think Meena analyze this weekend's game pretty well they didn't have their best performance but I'm yeah I I think he's he's. He's got a lot of things going well for him including remarkably Chris Mauling but he's managed to find a assistant a bit less records and the size of the season. They're not quite as high with but they are still able to take some risks and I think he's also the confidence of his players. They seem to be so happy to fulfil his you know to execute his ideals and to keep pushing into keep trying even if they feel they are in Syria to their opponents and feel like okay like we've really got to get a cold. They'll get the goal. Oh really good five in Rome not so good vibe in Naples now since meaning I are biased. We all are biased. Asked in favor of This is what I don't get I'm going to step back on. You guys. Explain it to me show. You have the the issue the beginning with is start with the Lorraine peacemaking stupid crack about them. Going to hold themselves out in China than you get the repudiated the nasty training camp and shut up saying well I don't think training camps really make sense and then they leave then after the game against Salzburg were they feel like Oh look we've qualified they. They'll decide that the players there's a supplier mutiny. They decide they're not gonna go to the training camp Currently nearly come to blows with deputies junior as well So then they loading. Discos takes legal action against them results. Except Yep for when they play bad teams like Liverpool. Just kidding just kidding kidding kidding They got a great result at Anfield. And you figure this is going to is going to carry over now. They've turned the corner. Nope nope because at the weekend. Horrendous result booed off the pitch Angeletti comes out very strongly he says in these situations it's up to the manager manager take responsibility. I'll take my responsibilities. I'm not the only one who needs to take responsibilities Here and you can decide if he's alluding to donate the players but tomorrow will sit down with the players and we'll figure out and I'm going to ask them what needs to be fixed and they can't figure it out. I'll figure it out for myself next thing. We hear they're off again. I don't get this I don't get it. I know I need some decision. Obviously to send them back in. What what what's going going on? But you said his kin it's ending. It is obvious necessarily. But it's important the Enchilada who is an outspoken critic of retail as a concept like. He's written about it before for like he doesn't believe in his suddenly taken them into radio. And why tell me about. This is the first time that he's ever worked with a group of people I thought on to the very highest level of professionalism. I think he feels right now. They he protected them. I'm not saying that professional sale. But he's used to let row Madrid Tehrani by a few years ago. Okay but you vent Ismaela very these guys wanted to be balanced or winners and right now. He's with the team who have been around for a long. Time may have lost their motivation because they continue seeing the fact you vent is just continue winning screw that screw that now into challenging. They're not getting the the investments required to actually challenge. There was a little lack of motivation. And I think that he felt he stuck up for them when it came to Laura antiques and he stood by them and he took the blame shouldered it and I think now he's feeling you know what you don't pay me back. You'll not doing what I'm asking you to do. You're showing the discipline that I need. I need you to do you do it in in moments where you want to shine because it's the Champions League in Liverpool but when I needed you to have this discipline and maybe it is because instead he either expected to actually controlled possession and be fantastic going forward whereas they can be a little bit more defensive in the champions the maybe that is what it is but they attitude right now I think he. He feels slightly betrayed and for that it could be that he is lashing out in the sense that you know what. Let's put you in richer and see what happens. I think I think I agree. Agree with that analysis. I think the the feeling that he's been let down by people who tried to stick up for his way has to be a little parts of it I think he he must also feel some genuine frustration at this point. I think the the He slightly assailed on all sides and Chelotti. He's got this sort of President who has taken control away from him in the beginning of this situation and and it was no secret that he was frustrated by the initial Rita. He wasn't happy happy about that. He had this power taken away from him. And Yeah you you try and tread the line. They're keeping your present happy because of course you went on his own when the players wouldn't would have broken his contract if he had one of the and but you haven't got from the players who've had what they wanted did not do it and let's put this in focus right because you talked about the team you talked about the players you talked about being let down by some people teams just collections of individuals. Right as you were saying that I was trying to think who let him down right. who was in that garden? Arden get seminary letting gown kind on Solti find if you think about it from the perspective motivation frustrations and you've a win year after year. Then we can safely say it's not mad at it's not devoting so could be his cy guys. I don't think it's cool Bali at all. It's not it's not mine Alaska. Just got that's bobby. And Reese who just got there. Do you want include Zielinski in that where we talking about because I actually think to some degree. Some people say it's not threatens. I like these Americans but some people might suggest he's would fit that profile. I E senior I think is the obvious one that we would would lump in their eastwind. Jason's came on board on. He created something easy to just WanNa run here who has let him down but who has denied him. Three times is an allen performance. This wise you name. Tim Seniors the first name that comes to mind is someone who has not delivered. The level of professional looking motivated motivation lack of professionals. That's what Meena talked about. Yeah yeah well. It's a little bit of listen to me. It sounds a little bit late. Jaden Sancho dormant Sancho for Napalese word. This is what it is you sort of understand both sides of it. You understand understand why the players are feeling demotivated. Why they're upset about everything that's happening to them? The fines the fact that that professionalism was called into question the fact that they're being asked to fighting on stroke drop when they're not being paid as much or they're not being able to have a team that's invested in evidence that they can win the trophies so they feel a little down I think Colorado not has come in and wanted to take the side a little bit further than won't even Saudi managed and he's feeling let down as well because he's not really getting everything they want either. That is not that great. They are a team when they I want to play it. Their best like we saw in the first leg at home to Liverpool Damn -nificant to watch they can strike and shoots and creates and they are Delicious on every level to watch the return leg to some of the commentary in this country about absolutely they showed the second leg showed more about their discipline than anything ours was a complete performance. Yeah I think this it's thing of I mean again. To use the words he used Gabby talks about a team being a collection of individuals. And that is not the problem that you haven't Napoli more than looking on individual basis and saying who's playing really polling saying who'd looks to motivated and unprofessional because that's what we're calling Allen is again viewed from the outside and not being there because we would conclude that he's talking about Alan you would conclude that he's talking about senior possibly marathons possibly chi-han but you know in that group because they're in the last year of exactly exactly so many missing a guy in midfield but knows how to control if we want to get into by the way if we want to get into expected goals and all that you could make a case. Napoli are better than their results. You know that they just there definitely are so so how much of this is down to a circumstance but attitude is complicated. Because it's not just about whether you're trying sometimes it's about confidence and I know we're going to talk at least briefly about Calorie on this show and Kelly area defying expected goes in a huge way gap talked about it last ball costs. But it's when you watch them it's because anyone who's played a bit of sport knows even without having to pay the high level when you just are completely confident that what you're doing is going to come off. Sometimes it does Undo Napoli right now like a team you have no confidence or sue percentage chance that Napoli fit love. These percentage chance at Napoli finished four only one of the top four. That's tough half because I think lots you really pushing this season or just got to AS Roma that's I'm GonNa go thirty five percent China because I was gonNA say forty percent. I was forty so yeah so we all we all still sorta believe less than fifty percent. It's not that much. Yeah I mean basically what discounting Kennedy furnished art. I do not awed. Okay well since you you you don't believe in Cagliari but it's not a real place I've even been but they're not gonNA finish top four. I I don't I don't think you're gonNA finish on the top floor. Sounds crazy like obviously because I used is firmly believe in natural at least getting one. Yeah and I do think Atlanta being something special but the way that you'd pay in right now I mean there's Rachel to watch Nainggolan is really truly world-class to getting any let you just Nandes stealing the bull by I mean they they will really down outings. I'm Doria and what they did in those final twenty minutes. I was like Oh my God. This is so fun too much that was and I feel. I feel like they could be a mini lester in the sense that they do win this could that Oh but they could meet make Tokyo just to sort of name. The game you're talking about. They won four three against some any game. Eighteen eleven three one. Yes so yeah it was. It was pretty raucous. It's funny Just to to not not expected goals you mentioned a second ago Olson who is coming off. The worst season at Roma didn't play in this game and actually one of the subplots their season is he's had like one of the best savings uh ratios have like shots on target saves in the whole division and then he goes and he said he can see three goals a Robin Olsen also a subplot inquiry. But he I I mean yeah. He's the defense. Nine has always been a very talented footballer. I think there's reasons to believe on recent years that he probably won't. They fit for the whole season. I as reasons to believe that everything that is happening right now has a little bit of confidence self belief that cannot endure the whole campaign. Shaw chargers in this campaign and he's coordinating Jewish Falesa. It's endured for many people endured ca finished in fifth place. neely made of I twenty. Oh I believe that your confidence and if you continue playing this why I mean. We're fourteen weeks in their amazing to be a state back there you go. That's that's my. Take us out for a steak cut in all right. Okay is that is that a shake on it take Nikki slide. The thing I suggested but I should point this out since our regular producer Freddie is basically abandoned us this year and last this time Freddy went and snuck into our lunch. Go and eat some steak or whoever produces the most this season gets the invitation. Anyway meet on on the other hand. They beat Padma they way. Now I know that came. Lay All go and laugh there. There's the left. Back is our highest scores. Thank you feel but I thought they played. Well aren't discussion because I think we all agree now. Counting is not not good. Level is good but the rest of the team's walk to you know. Actually I do want to mention something on which kind of bothered me. Yeah because a lot of ah he's beginning in fact he needs to help himself and he's not doing that but there was like a moment when terminology pause the ball. It was a straight line and he was waiting for you in the area. I do think there are times when some of the players around him. I just a little bit selfish like Casey wants to shoot the ball. You know why he's there and yes. He might squander the opportunity but but I don't necessarily think he's being helped anyway. Twenty nine shots from you and I believe They are they look like they have a care plan a clear strategy. I know then collecting as many points as we wanted them to you on deputy but my shooting enjoying watching them play I on their way back and would intensify now. Is We've done this before. But it's maybe the next show. We'll have an answer one way or another one hundred twenty us Anniversaries and the big rumor is that they're going to announce slapped on Ibrahimovic any. I know that they've had had I I know that all I know is well might be obviously spoken. And I know that they know how much Latin wants bomb others have reported that it's actually other way round made the offer and Blah Blah Blah. Others are even reporting it. Was The store the Telegraph saying that. The deal is done. You don't know how do we feel about. This is is dead on to the. I'm sure I'm sure I said this last week. I I think it's a terrible step in their direction. And even if he comes in go fish for the season no so. What's what's your long term? Skirt meaner well to a certain degree. I agree with that and this has been going to finish changed for us. So what's the point. Convince he's going to do that. What if he does come back but but I knew I mean I I? I was still bringing earn. Showed cap would you know by. I would take that money and figure out whether you get a strike on loan or whatever I think somebody has to come in. Somebody has to coming to school. The goal budget the money to bring Latin then budget the money for alone half a season and the striker whose maybe unhappier not producing or whatever. Honestly I couldn't Niemand. That's why I think I can't name a strike right now. That would make this difference. The difference to moment anyway Chelsea Lewis when he stopped the coming in like that'd be do-able like even just keep knocking out to them and it makes you imagine. Could just all top scorer gory Darby's instead but I should have thought was this weekend and it has often been in setting has not the same because they've been up banana at different stages obviously it's a weird rivalry brayshaw Atlanta to very wealthy cities to very close very close to each other Just off the motorway waterway and just six comets parading them. It's a wonderful local bragging rights thing because you know people in bad Gamal will say like Oh look but you know we have a a bigger airport and people in British say. Yeah but we have more exits off the motorway. So we're more important. Is this what they're bragging about. Yeah all kinds of slightly odd but two three teams in different directions at an impressive again but a shot. Guess what another managerial change. Also gone well I see. I have very mixed feelings on mess. Because I think it's ridiculous of course challinor gets humanitarian and gets rid of them up to three games on the other hand. I thought it was a terrorist in the first place. So yes getting back and let him do his job job. Yeah I agree with that. Ten goals conceded non scored under Grosso. But I I kind of feel a little sorry for him because you sort of like ruined his career. Little bit there But I I'm glad he's back. It's what the fans really wanted them to see. I do think it's interesting. That ballot tally was those the threat against Galanter The you know the player that WHO's been criticized for not necessarily even on this by me always following the antics of the team but not always are not often uh-huh yeah well that'd be good but three now I mean. Did you ever read anything that would lose you know. Let's be on Dr Beth at this is something where you know. She's awesome but yeah. I should've been catastrophic since cutting you been really off. And it's not a cross is provided one of the ESPN and in my lifetime. He will always be here but he's not done a good job in the very limited time. He's also can I just mention Naito. Dino could be anymore dull to watch any more daughters surprises was such a lovable manager. I'm I'm just. It's amazing that Genoa didn't win that but anyway let's say let's Rant of this pot with with some knee jerk reactions. McKee this is your favorite Segment at the very end of all comp- always going to say at the end of our competition at the very the end of all put. Should we start with you. Shall we be my knee jerk reaction this week is now. It's it's the when you confronted God with something that he might have been wrong about. He just doubles down and gets angry. So that's my talk with trump. Wash her wrong. I'd this is nicky. She's fixations in her head. You know how many worried about this take didn't revisionist history No I think my major reaction is that if I might eat society and do my best right now to not make this Jonah saying a saying and and I think while the focus has been on Defense and on the attack Christiana Blah Blah Blah. I think you've a really really problematic in the middle of the park. The ways changed people around the weights. Keep sharing things around. There's no solution if piano isn't there. I think that's where you need to work on. Sorry he's not great. No but but I'm saying he's crucial was game and nobody else will bears or the new. I think if you fix a midfield you take pressure pressure off the back. And hopefully you create a more stable platform for Cristiano and as me necessarily get more players around him and then he'll be happier. I'll give you a real knee jerk. Reaction Rub reality check reaction. Is I think that as good as lots Yo have been I think the milinkevich savage average is the piece that came out of eight into something. If if it's an it's not a he is that it's an I think that what he gives them different enough that if he can maintain the head the performance. That's the gap for me between them. Being right on the verge of of trying to break into the champions he places and with Korean Alberto being the level they are really pushing on and being in the top four now he s PFC producer. Pete if you're listening to this Pete. Combs controls me about the fact that I love. Oh yeah okay. He had a bad season. But you know what if he and Sandra Otani where you've enters right now. Yeah I'm telling you this you would be doing something but this miserable midfield field honestly miserable. I mean might as well have been like. Listen Dude I'm out you know. What is the point of him? I didn't want him in the first place. I'm doubling down on the fact that I think he's terrible But this midfield cannot go far at all and I feel sorry for Saudi But I do. I just do things that all you need is me to midfield. As an event his would be flying in every competition. That's an hour from us here. At the city awesome pod caused caused do join us next week. And it'll be a TRUMKA's each week and it's the final matchday so let's see you what Atalanta could do an inter. Actually see see you then.

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Will Juventus Be Dethroned?

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Will Juventus Be Dethroned?

"Welcoming solicitation of Spnfz Thomas by Craig Burley and Stevie Nicholson. Robson will be with US shortly as we kick things off in Italy water weekend. We'll start on Saturday. Event is losing against Elyssa Rona and then on Sunday early on last year without win against Parma Arma coupled with inches extrordinary comeback against ABC Milan in the Davi. Means that just one point now separate the top three in Seri I. It's going to be some title race. Robo are you still going for you. Just about they're not playing. Well sorry certainly go to these ideas across do about this Sarajevo. Both of certainly not seeing inventors. There's we know fluency but I just think on their day. They're still the best. I think there'd be more consistent. Come now to the end of the season and the alassio. They've got Renault back to somewhere near his best. I think sorry needs to get back in the side because I think he's a better option at the moment and equally who's coming I'm sure but it's in midfield where they've got one or two from some of the new flares eventers have brought in light raby. Overlap Ramsey haven't really performed but I still think if you look at it from now to to the end of the season Vega bit more consistency. That probably GonNa win all their home games and I think they win the title voice. How much problem is it that you're events and you're relying lying on Cristiano Renaldo to such an extent these stats in extraordinary twenty goals competitive Bala? Who is the next top scorer with five along with eight wine and we sore on Saturday? Don't leave this over-dependence everything trying to get to Renaldo. Could this fight them in the bum. The strangest thing is this this was anybody else we would be seeing. There's no way you've NSF. Going to win the League through just relying on in other the problem the rest of the League has is Cristiano Renaldo the I can handle it. The Guy can carry the team on his shoulder. So clearly you don't want to be relying on one player but wells. He's healthy he can carry them all the way to the title. Thirty Five Zero Christiana ran out of. Yeah the thing that would worry me looking at is an rubble. Mentioned is the lack of Gold's fever pitch who normally as a playmaking lyon-caen midfielder and there's no other midfielders does it. Let's do this season more than halfway are even close to get double vegas. That's a concern because you look at other schools. Do Bala eagerly expecting eighteen goals but we get it from the middle of the park and we saw franken the youngest. I go for Barcelona yesterday so important Frank Lamp that for years at Chelsea Stephen Girard at Liverpool behalf. The support your strikers with goals from the middle of the park. It's one of the key components to have a nut success excess and that's an area where the not operate in very well at the moment robot. What's happened to Sarah but will it just seems to be the two Renaldo is certainly really does? He tried to play with the front three. And he's trying to then go through center fours and running behind and the player that's always been. What enough developed did it well for? A couple of games was left. Act Out the side. Benedetti's coming down welling up. Douglas Kosta was magnificent. When he was playing for by Munich? Really hasn't done it. The event injury earlier on in the season then the other three midfield players I talked about radio is not scoring goals. Ramsey's not getting food or what he does get forward. He's not getting the right to the finish and he's really been discarded. I think by. Sorry sorry there's no fluids I think everything revolves around Renaldo and the other players looking to Palestinian. When sometimes I should be taking another option? And that's the problem that Sarah's got he wants the blast slightly different way but renowned dictating to him as probably should as to why the best player meanwhile so critical of into this season. When you've enters have given even them challenges to catch him at the top of the table? They've dropped the ball. They did the first half yesterday but that second half performance could that be the spark that would get them really really going down the second half of the season. I'm not quite sure whether the happier the second half spa a worried about what. I'm the falstaff you know. This is a team the to me looked at all from the very get goal. They thought we'd bear. The Nice team would happen and of course when the other way around Milan on whereby Father Sayed. So that that to me is worrying that if they're gonNA come out and play against the big teams in the big games and an actually replay. What they're gonNA do with games that the supposedly one that's why event been one in the league year and the year they win all the Games? This opposed it one and Tim Milan for me. Hamid reached that stage yet. We're the stepping on the field that I'm thinking this team is definitely going to win today on the for ninety minutes. I I don't think they're consistent enough for his Gra and we talked about yesterday for his gre- responses it was I think slightly concealment the although Milan since the new monitors Gannett had time Ebrahimi which is gonNa be better by this time. Those are pretty mediocre site right and Italy at the moment and they made it entity line look and it was worrying how easy they were able to do that. And how deep has backed three-stroke Buck Five. And how with an extra money in the middle of the park still dominated and then there was a huge gap up to till Lukaku an Alexi Sanchez. Certainly in the foster that was concealment to me thirty nine year old was the best player on the field in the first half that has to be. What if you're into Milan? The actually would let that happen. Because there's no way there's again we haven't figured out at those one guy we need to saw a is going to be instead the dictate to see them rose you know. I'm sure can't he did have a team at halftime. But for the first five minutes then wasn't the wasn't a huge change in my opinion at Broza. Vich who took only self the. That's that was the spot. That's what changed again. Robo is the glass half full or empty for inter. After that win a half empty I would say I agree with the guys in the shooter. Absolutely right there's inconsistency with into Milan from one half to another and it happened many many times this season a lack of intensity sometimes when they close in the border when it becomes urgent when they desperate something like by higher up the field. They pressed the ball. They get into their front starts. A link with each other. I mean Martinez was a bit of a missing that I essentially did. Okay Yeah but there's a lack of intensity in certain periods of games for concert and that can't be the case if you're trying to win the title because at some point they're going to come across and lose a game they need to win. And that's why events the still the best side in Syria as not sound thirty eight years. POB You for this is not a pair of fix narrow for county but then today is put them in a position along with lots you whether it's been pretty inconsistent. Dull at times is done so far. What has been brought into do not put them in a position to see if they can go toe-to-toe for the second half of the season not try to under sorry at what for a long period fail the end? We're going to find out whether he's got enough about a mini squad to be able to to cope with event the escort Sarah by far between now and may now you got you see being able to turn round and bring some daily Ericsson. Aw As as that that tells you that. They're in a position where they can. They can make a run for this tale when you can bring on him and he makes a difference. Even Moses made a difference making out of the four goals so when you've got people when they sell you late and you can come in you're GonNa do something enchaine game again that will push them towards detail and of course the score of the fourth. Go your best friend conquer scoring in a big game. The reason in our in their star two races. This is a lot down to the seventeen goals at school this season. Yeah let's see how you can argue with goals you. Can you can argue with with some of these other. Play the Yukon arguing it comes. Don't the numbers and yes no question. You know. You're you're talking about relying on somebody talking about Rinaldo you Venezuelan Venison lionhead was no question we rely on Docu putting a bucket and that is for sure I mean well row of course last show rely on Tier overlay last year with a win at the weekends. Can they win this title. Because they haven't got a big enough squad they had to make one or two changes. Join just because of suspensions. At the weekend they still put in a decent performance the press over the white by Palmer they do rely on the mobile site school goals as well Korea when he comes on can be a dangerous. But I don't think I quite good enough to go to some factory. I know the system. But they're playing well above what they should be playing. He's done a brilliant job in Zarghee but end up with embiid third in the table. I think so Robert Events is still. Yeah I'm still I'm still settling with. The event is just for because of their experience. But as I said yesterday the salary doesn't what doesn't want to be the man that when the train comes off the track and that's a big pressure on him so he's going to have to figure also kind of figured that Chelsea at the end of the season in Tomba chaperone when people were talking about about getting at one point. Now see if we can do here here with this squad. But I'm just community goes thing we. I mean he's classy all done all season. This talk about the way they play in. The don't do this don't do that. Guess we'll leave capable yet. I think I'll stay with him or I then a lot more talk about what happened in Italy on the latest edition of the garbajosa enjoyed podcast. Today be sure to check it out over on the website quite the weekend can in Germany. Of course the big game finished by Neil live sake and nail. Just one point separates them at the top of the table Bruce Doberman shoot themselves in the foot again. Three two up in the end they'd lose four. Three Gladbach didn't play. That game was postponed because of the weather. Meaning there's four points that separate the top four. In Germany buying of course favorites raw vote given their history given the tradition given the fact that they are reigning champions. But did you see enough. chinks in their armor to suggest. gest that maybe this time Wanna chase impact can catch them thing. They've got a slight problem at the back. For the moment I thought they played very well for the first thirty minutes against against Leipzig. They played the sort of full. The expect binds a play. The the the full back Scott forward and got good crosses into the box me like the plan that of three or four years as ago Tiago was dominated midfield but when you think that Sioulas out for quite some well they sold hummus now barred saying had to go off injured. They ended up. The game with Alibaba is one of the center and the other center so that would inspire me in terms of they were being attacked. And if they're being counter attacked and let's he did have two or three good opportunities in the second half. Although they're applied in that first off I still think by Munich. It's going to be good enough Hansie fixed on an excellent job. Since he's been in charge I think they're back to somewhere near the best but that's probably for them having said that they didn't have their best after the opening half an hour did they not only didn't look too so it was one of them it was. You could play till midnight and still at school I mean. I think it was had that that John's but after that you can you can scratch your head Ed to come up with with any other real clear up the other. NC My version of school a golden question bio more vulnerable to counterattack talking the pace that lakes he but the biggest surprise was possession by an hard and the show few clear chances the the created so that would worry me how many times by leaving themselves exposed back. I mean the ball concur over the top the dot great chance for aw God I mean. There was almost a whole half of the rent for both players. I mean how helping a position with so many experienced players not to make changes or dead make changes game. There's no way you bring it on. Kids don't know how to organize themselves. I mean the basics of when you're attacking and as you at least have a semblance of enough bodies back goal site played a decent possession by often often leave themselves exposed and lakes shoot a ticket for Levant. He's said they've only get one when I believe in the Cup since the since they went to break finish. Finish all night. Watchman hasn't exactly it's not been terrible for them you know coming back against Gladbach getting a point against by. Munich's a disaster. But it hasn't been clearly the style that the second half of the season who's GonNa push them the hardest rubber. It's going to be like Dortmund Almond too inconsistent. They're giving away goes left right and center and there's certainly no consistency about there at the moment. Borussia Moenchengladbach I. Don't think quite good enough. There are decent side without being extraordinary. I think Leipzig will challenge by Munich. But come the end of the season bomb unit will probably be four or five points clear and win the title. Meanwhile in Spain of course it's tight again. Real Madrid three points clear over Barcelona Ramage off the sooner meanwhile Boston and coming from behind to defeat. Defeat Real Battiste. The bookies have Real Madrid as favorites. And it's interesting when you take a look at the Bundesliga Syria and it In Spain as well. There's so many subplots in all of this of course Richard and parcel owner two of the biggest clubs in the world. You imagine go right down to the wire in Italy. It's all about the possibility ability of a new era of Inter taking over from eventers and in buying of course getting rid of Kovac Flint coming in to try and steady the ship and getting to Tiso once again of those three leagues TV. which is the most exciting for you? Exciting I don't get any tips on intriguing. You know what I think the more swings in Pasadena Madrid. Because they'll have to exactly the same for me you've got you've got by on. Who who want it forever who you're going to go with just because one third of expediency getting over the line and the same event? Yeah so it has to be Real Madrid Madrid and Barcelona for me because you know we know the flaws of bull shades but real. Madrid's sell down and we've got the problems at Basa Laura uh-huh and relying on as usual messy. So I think if you're going to push me I'm going to see a Real Madrid leaguer. Thank Sarah is is a potential to be really intriguing if it goes all the way to the end not is GonNa be the key for lots your on to Milan. An event is a drop off the pace a little because because I'm pretty much dominated from start to finish from the time we're we're a a little behind and came back but if they do get put under pressure Conley come by all about Rinaldo so I think at least as Hell of entry about is has Germany so I'm expecting a bustling Real Madrid. Three teams in Syria are going for is. He's pretty good at the moment. Exciting intriguing. Whatever word you want to use raw by which the League's for you? I'm going to Syria. I think it's intriguing. I'M GONNA use that word as you guys have mentioned with events us we expect them to gum with its. I expected gone when the Tiso but I've yet to see Sarah Getty's ideas across the planet. Their the very best. Can they pick it up. Is it happiness and light. Event is I'm not sure. Supporters are particularly happy with Surrey and if the players starts get against the manager. They're not happy with these tactics and it doesn't look as though they really binding to what he wants. That's the interest and if you can keep going and keep going and lets you keep their unbeaten lights and run going. It's going to be really exciting. Come the end of the season to join us on Xtra to discuss their Valentine's they plan some you. Imagine more detail tells the numbers a lot of talk over recent weeks about Kilian Mbappe and indeed neymars future. Let's start with the Brazilian Leonardo address the weekend saying he is committed very happy and a fantastic player. He is very fate we are. I'm happy to have him wonderful. We of course are happy to have frank leboeuf with us as well on holiday in Switzerland but still committed with these beautiful the full white surroundings. Al Franken. Let's start with this. Quite from Leonardo giving name is name is really happy. Getting everything is really Roses as Leonardo would have believed well hard to believe when directing manager. He's getting out and speak to the media that you can really trust what his capacity saying and he wants to to make sure that people think that everything is under control in Passenger Matt when we all know that it's not really the case because he's hard to cope with big stars tells like name all or even by name. Oh he's a fantastic player that everybody is no contest about that. But it's a really a we all know that if we win the championship we'd go away. We all know that you'll in the recent past that it doesn't think that person is going to be east club forever so we all know that is not a mercenary but is somebody who just came here to be the number one and like he was in in Barcelona and do what he has to do. Buzz showed no love to whatsoever to the club. So Eliana can say whatever he wants the fun no where the stents and where the funds to stand to name all the guy didn't ensure love to the club and it's an idea that could play the funds no forever you want. Change anything to the view that they have on On the player Leonardo was also asked about Imbaba. This is why you had to save storms often. Talked back to the coach okay. It is a mistake we discuss. It internally settled axel the issue to say that he is a brand and this or that I do not accept that. Here's an adorable guy very committed an a fantastic player as you said Frank. What else is Leonardo was the director of? ps she going to say but defend his player is good. What what he does is good because he has to do? And these the guy above the players above the coach and the US to to stop maybe the fire will study to to to light up in dressing room. So is good. Say stuff to bobby even name all in that case. MVP and and says to him what not really thinks about the behavior and makes mistakes to learn the process of playing with. He's authors and being at the top and not being able to make any mistake so it's a process long process and it's good to see outdoor using Iraqi not to To make sure that this is going to work for the best for the for the club frank will be joining us on extra time. We can look behind that curtain and see you sorta August two months ten points clear at the top of the table in France after that win against Lille at the weekend. It's that time of the discussion about hey should be plan of the season. The bookies have released this that list odds Jordan Henderson favorites and coming in Second Saito managed. Third Kevin dubrow join the only non Liverpool player in the top six seventy-one Saharan tens turn Alexander on on a twelve to one. Maybe I want to stop you just a few days ago. You believe Saito managed to get yes I I think as great as Liverpool from from black metal different of being. No just as a team individually. I think Saudi-omani just every body because he scored important goals is called Plan Eagles for me. The only reason Sala has more goals. NAM is because of the penalties that he's he's gone so I think for for a major influence on site. That's that's why I'm going to go for Saudi-omani already sending money. Should he win. It could what but von wasn't isn't funday one date was second in yes and then I wouldn't have an issue Henderson Ryan's I mean there's not a wrong answer. One of the things we with us. I would like to see something I tell you why because I don't think we've seen or I can't remember a player that we've seen such an improvement on a future said when he went to Liverpool. Kenny Kenny. That he's going it'd be put on performances that he's been putting in for a good couple years plus now but particularly last eighteen months. If you said he was going to be driving not Liverpool midfield good feel forward when he was signed people to laugh but he has an okay at it to them and so I'm quite happy. We all say John and Henderson. Rebecca well I agree with both the Steven Craig Money's had a great season. He's been influential and everything. That's been going food in midfield. I rely on clothes in the booth and winning it back Henderson's being a great leader but if one player of Liverpool side which might then weaken them. I think it'd be did you find out. He's been the most influential plan for live over the last year and I would go with him because that's why they if you took him out the side quite the same. This is a political. Yeah so you want you want you've got because basically I'm imagining and just go. Yeah whatever someone else to fill plus who cares or run with this guy says you giving me as can you give me earache on the field Alaikum Alaikum can say yeah. Yeah he's a he's a great player is pending an actual. I'll go what about. It's a rub is point if you took Van Dyke at the Liverpool team he would have the biggest effect. This is really hard the argument because I can argue argue with that you know the reason why Liverpool have taken that extra step and going to win the primarily vichy and Champions League as because previously really. Yes there were scoring lots of goals and create lots of CIANCI's but that piece was messing where they're losing goals and look dropping points so rumbles wrong in these these assessment. That if you take that whole Oh then as basically taking the Plug Ota but at the same tame going forward and the end of the day will play football because relate to relate to score goals. And there's nobody nobody nobody does your bell right now. Saudi-omani Robo. Are you surprised about the impact. The money is had a liberal that moved from Southampton no no because he's a player that running behind I see too. Many players wanted to come to not being penetrated enough with their movement as soon as he sees apply. Halftime on the ball is not worried worried about coming short together Egypt. What's the running behind? He's got great pace. He's awareness of where to run his and he's a decent finish as well. I think he's been absolutely yes then we saw at Southampton but he's got bathroom better with a year. It takes a bit more care in the ball and then more Sala right. Then he gets his Willie Fisher has surprised that he's eclipse tyler. Yeah absolutely be interesting to see not the last show. Have this discussion wins and only may you can't really get Romo Con- Oh you could qualley quality continues. Tomorrow we'll be back. Juliana wrong joining us to give us all the latest regarding that would would interview about social cities game against West Ham means that clash against Real Madrid will come on in February twenty six. That was always the case by means. I've only got one game now before that match away against lesser the weekend before that champions the game is that big deal Robert the father. They're gonNA go so long without a proper run a match his into such a big match it is I think you you know they wanted to give some of the plaza. Arrests gives them some place a chance to get fit the promo being the second leg. 'cause they're going to play a lot of games before that second like some big games as well. That'll that'll be that problem. No problem with the first one. It's the second game where they're gonNA have to play a lot of fixtures including the Cariballo Cup. That's when they got the problem the second game against Rome Madrid Not GonNa Bother too much about that rottweiler. Because the league's go onto can legally please write own economically rest players. I like doesn't make a difference. I don't think so because I think wrist is imperative. This time of the year and again it depends on what you think rests more important than form because it went in greet form Rathore Russell. A couple of games before this game would would get some of the cobwebs off and getting back to where but again rests bad thing. All Right Gentlemen thank you very much. Thanks to Stevie Craig Stewart Robson. We'll be back tomorrow for more until then goodbye. Welcome into extra time. Thank you as always for your tweets before we catch them. I feel obliged to go to frank. I was still in Switzerland price the first time you've seen the sets up isn't it. Yeah it's amazing. What technology does he can you can get can get inside the tent but to passing Matan taint our content everything but what is the lining? Frank is it like a white blanket. You up just to juice just a normal curtain see. There is a window beyond me the Montaigne but they just to fake for to make sure talk to me. It's fake it. Looks like a furry topczewski fantastic. And he's very soft on your right hand side right behind me along. That's that's because my friend. That's my friends. Kept in yes. He has a charity in Gunnedah Africa. And it's it's something is like a scale to climb the tree so it's a piece of wood but it's a scale to climb on tree so you have a little bit of for of Suits Ellen and would from Uganda Puccio friend. Frankly famous do we know them He's quite Zinger. Switzerland is is somebody very non in real estates and yeah it's fantastic person. Listen first of all very very funny. Guy was catchy. Talion we send to Robeson stuck whereas whereas in London late he's he's he's Alma. Smith Nate Nice dedication scrap. But actually scroll awesome. Traffic always eastern dedication. Isn't it. Yeah you go on holiday I give you walkabout walkabout draw okay not the best and you're coming because what would normal a normal people maybe would say. No I'm on holiday Ledeen for Franken committed. You might be getting a whole day next next month. Maybe we could set something up with you. Good especially ten eleven nine on the dog. Bright didn't you think Chris Walled Issue Manager of the season if he gets to Champions League for Sheffield United to start with you Robert I would make him runner up because the manager of the season that the moment has to Yorgen clock because the money dropped into points that made exceptional. Yes Chris Wallace done a very good job at shepherd's football but manager of the season at the moment manager over the world has to be Yoga and clump. Yeah and the argument against that. No I mean it's I think we're done no well I would have put money on them that they the fog steam railway out in saying that preseason their official around absolutely would have thought they would get relegated. And do you know what I F if not more serious team are all guys played. The League's Yep of Chemo Hunger and desire frank. If you had a time only machine what match from the past would you want to go and see I think nineteen seventy walker final Brazil against Italy in Mexico City Pele playing scoring a header fantastic hitter. Yeah Yeah I think Robo while I was GONNA say the same game so I'll go back four years and go back to the sixty six cup. Final England winning the world cow against West Germany leaving the year. Nineteen sixty seven Then Golden Scotland became world champions by England at Wembley. That's exactly how the nineteen NATO woke up that was your video was never say you'll vhs actually three Brazil to pitchy rather one in your team as a free transfer Cavani trees mountains. Or William Rub depends what you're looking for but I would go for the moment still fit and still playing well on go with William at the moment is still looks. Decent player Larry still getting crosses in. He's still making goals governor. William I think Cavani is not fully thick Andrei's mertens mature play. Thank the good way combining scored weekend. I think I would go with Tony. Yvonne Vonnie from Shackleton Boom Boom Roper. If you were Batman which pundit would be your rob it without doubt it would it would be stevie. I'm GONNA understand a word he says. I'll just keep nodding. You could give me some advice on notice no notice of it but it would definitely be. What do you want to show Robin? If you about nine Friday we'll go for a Julian Pundit Jilin is appended yet. Yeah okay so I take. I go for Gin because the only one who can understand me because I speak French. You'd do things smarter than me. You'd have to have stevie when you you to Go for shock. Yeah most laid robitaille forgiven. Not Very true Robo which match you love the swell comments eighteen this season which much of life the most well compensated in this season The Events Napoli. I'm earlier on where events with three Napoli came back to thrill and in the last minute cooler. Hula Valley sliced the ball into his enjoyed that game. That was an excellent one. Final question to Stephen. Valentine's Day is coming up. Uh Yes your wife pretends on Thursday from a travel. She stays on Friday. Eliza Yep Yep spun off your Lsu was off the top by saying in volunteers. I do know blocking for some reason. I thought she was coming back outfits. Let's who thought. Oh you could avoid free. She's come back especially for this thing. We don't bother with a known since now we know she doesn't even know doesn't get you account or anything no no stupid maxim surprise lack of thousands of Valentine's Day here Frank French colts renowned feel romance. Yes of course you know I'm GonNa be going to celebrate on the fourteenth because I'm going to be on state that night but I'm going to celebrate the day before was my lovely wife and he's going to receive a big book of Rura Red Roses in the morning for sure Meanwhile she's getting a new car keys. Surely every day is Valentine's Day in the Robson House. Well I'm working twice on the actual died at the very day is the next day or the during that wait. I'm going away for couple of days to hope. So cal TPA very nice hotel in ESCO Switzerland report. Is it no. I'm just saying this very much asking is back tomorrow. Then what's happening tomorrow. We'll figure uh-huh out juliane tears well frank.

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"Welcoming solicitation of ESPN SEM down. Craig Burley and a shocker. Here slog Markazi Indian dont will be joining us. Shortly as we kick things off in Italy at the semi final stages of the Copier Talia. These games are played over two legs. Milan. Taking on a year venter's Milan dominated much of this tide. Ravitch giving them a deserved lead in the sixty first minute however line then reduced the ten men to a ninety CENT OFFERS SECOND YELLOW CARD. Thank controversy late on. Cristiano Renaldo going for the price of take connects for the full that hints. The defenders on the referee doesn't initially go to the penalty. But then go. Savar gives right and opinion. I think you I think Christine does is coming down. His left arm is extended breaks will be called. Silhouette breakfast rights to give it more on that later. Then as maligned one events is one year Venice you would say with the advantage going into the second leg. Twenty twenty as being great Cristiano. Renaldo in fact you could extend that back to December. The first fourteen games for the Portuguese attack eighteen goals in total impressive stuff. Well of course being a penalty Craig. Is it a pen? I think the more than laws for penalties and the directives are very frustrating because the proximity of Ronald on the player is very close however the arms extended whether these because in the motion of jumping the arms extended unfortunately on blocks show heading. It looked like to all the goal from Renault of the volley. So and not sense. You know a few said to me a few years ago. I would've went harsh. I think it is. I would say that's a penalty voice in the same penalty dot says you. I don't think he's a penalty. No I really. Don't you're saying he's arms extended? He knew nothing about it? I mean where's he supposed to put his arm in a challenge like that. The ball is traveled. Probably what a quarter of a yard. I don't think that would have been given in a month of Sundays pre. Va are and is that a clear and obvious era with the original decision. I don't think so. I think Milan were robbed gap. Yeah I'm with with Ian on this one and I it wasn't so sure but I think the the other element to consider is one jumps. He has his back to the play. He has no idea where the ball is where the ball is going to go. There was a very similar incident in week. One of the of the season where the penalty was given very similar. Circumstances was belichick against Eddie. And the interesting thing is Roberto. Who'S THE Who is the head of the Italian referees? When he had one of those meetings at the periodically have with all the coaches and media and he explains what is and what is not a penalty. He cited that penalty incident and saying. Oh look here's an incorrectly awarded penalty because the defender jumps and he's got his back to the to the ball. He's got no idea where it is. Yes his hands are extended by his side as he comes back down but part of the natural motion of coming back down so this should not have been given. The question is this was nearly identical. Why was this given? And he said why did a are a serious enough air to overturn it? Because the silhouette body was telling the no because you see panel is given when a player if a player Tomlin's is facing a potential strike at goal and tons is Bach. Yeah they do something cuddly. Espn is Nobo- crack. There's a key difference. There's a key difference here specifically said the player is jumping in the air. It's different when the players on the ground if you refer back to the whole silhouette business. And whatever they say usually and they say usually to give the referee's discretion here they came out and made it a point and said that should not have been a penalty. Because when you're jumping you need your arms for balance on the way and on the way back down you what constitutes a natural position is going to be different than if you're standing with both feet planted on the ground and you're simply turning your back on the ball and throwing out on that. I think is the key difference here. I concentrate for what Rizzoli says. Oh his into partition of it. I do feel that collaborate in going with with the law is written as as Craig rightly points out when you talk about silhouette. I think the extends outside of that Silhouette at the same time and you understand the distance. But I kind of hub. Every time I see it the Moise as collaborators coming down I just feel that left-arm goes out a little bit more than a naturally would and I wonder if again it's in the almost defining of making your body bigger. He's not quite sure what's happening behind him. He's not quite sure what. Rinaldo is doing but in through and that left arm I was a little bit more. It's making his body bigger and taking and taking a real shots mushers and I'm not sure. It doesn't intentionally chuck. Thanks he may. I'm not sure but then whether intense and still retinue laws on these days. It's a nonsense because most of the time there is no intent. It's an action not election and it just goes to highlight how this Han bowl penalty kick situation scenario as one of still becoming one of the most difficult greatest areas of the laws against this difficult because people say well. How do you fix it right? Well if the penalty now in that situation but then you look people will just kick in again. Yeah yeah so as still referee differently from country to country ask for me still one of the greatest areas of the sport. Let's talk about the game overall. This late decision doesn't really take away from the fact that you weren't very good Gab. No you weren't very good. I'm very good at all. I don't want to go back to talk about decision. But I think the refereeing overall it didn't didn't help there was a whole spate of contentious incidents including a possible penalty to you. Vent is for ravage. On Corrado which which could've changed the game earlier by we're seeing what we've been seeing all season. This is not modern societies. You've it there's nothing of Scythian men. Unfortunately it's no longer Max ladies you and they keep getting good results because they generally have better players and better individuals. The opposition site came out afterwards and he said No. I'm not worried. Only thing people should be worrying about their health. It's normal new. You can't just be you know in the tournament continual sent you. Can't continuously improving. Yeah but you also can't be continually treading water which is basically what this team has done. They've either gone backwards or or the state still since these left in terms of performances and now that the results are quite coming as convincingly as before. I think this is something you need to get under the. He needs to fix pretty quickly. Yeah how close to breaking point gap. Obviously we still rumors this week. Allegra could come back in who still under contract vendors after getting fired last summer. Yeah I'm well first of all the fact that we still under contract doesn't actually mean that I legally needs to come back and I'm not sure legally would wanNA come back. He's made it clear. He wants to take a sabbatical year. He's learned foreign language. You know. I think he's waiting around for a job elsewhere. I there's been. It has been reported that he would be the plan. B If Saudi gets back but there's no indication that you've ever GonNa sack Saudi right now. I think you were prepared for it to be to take time because it is a radical philosophical shakeup going from but I think what worries them is. We're seeing nothing of Saturday ball. We're seeing nothing of of the style of play that you know main Saudi a hot commodity two years ago when he was in Napoli and his first few months Chelsea. This is a team that has all the worst qualities of the Saudi team and all the worst qualities of an illegally team and it's that lack of forward progress I think which would be concerning criticism fan seven months in yes in in short. Yes absolutely you take over a team that defending what eight times. Syria winners with the of making them more exciting. And you don't achieve that they don't have the defensive organization did previously team struggling fi identity thank goodness for Cristiano Renaldo Otherwise. Who knows what what kind of events would be talking himbal well in all fairness. I think no stage. You know an illness to him. A Finnish decision strongly Chelsea talk for Europe League on the played a little better towards the end of the season. And I think we'll see where we go and my opinion from no through to the summer super fast the train come off the truck and then not what an attorney to. How can you go in jeans? They have to win it they. That's that says one of them to win. The Champions League time doesn't really matter it's sort of times she'll take myles but modest. The main reason to brought Rinaldo the club was to win the Champions League example. So he knows he's on the pressure but what I'm saying. I think you throw the baby out with the bathwater Juliette Gabe. Obviously it's Liam next in the Champions League you ventures are up there amongst favorites obviously behind the likes of Liverpool Manchester City boss learned a PS G. and by Munich. Ten to one for only seven and it's very difficult to make a case as to why you are going to go all the way and make it. Is Tom Bowman win? That final in May for on this evidence shore but you know the Champions League is a completely different beast. You don't the team. That wins isn't the team that plays consistently good football route. It's about highly individuals raising your game on the day. Getting a good draw until you've meant to star in the mix But I do think there's a window of opportunity there at Uber. This is not a young team. You know Matisse the leaks notwithstanding and this is a team that invested heavily bringing Cristiano Renaldo and there's a window of opportunity that is closing or is going to start to close soon so we said this in the summer it was an odd time to embark on a one hundred eighty degree. Turn and go with Saturday. And that's been compounded by the fact that Saudis kind of stuck in this in this sort of limbo football wise so it's a tall order but I certainly wouldn't rule it out because there's enough individual quality for them on their day to go and go and be anybody out there. I know I don't really evidence when of Los. I'm you've blue zone. Strange talking about this talent renowned aside. This team is buying average. Well Taunton reach the Champions League final last year normally scholley take if we're talking properly. We're analyzing football in particular and looking at the standards of the size that we've seen so far this season you could say. Oh yeah but Tottenham made it to the final. Monica made this that and the other. But how appropriate Frank Discussion? There is nothing we have seen from your venter's this year to suggest that they can make any sort of run in this champion's league this season unless they get an incredible control but if the wrong way to look at it because the champions e because I showed us and has taught us over the past few years that it's a different type of competition if you have outstanding individuals you can win it round. Madrid one three Champions League titles on the Trot as you know and in two of those three years they finish way out of first place in La Liga. They weren't particularly cohesive team. They weren't a particularly good team but they came together when it mattered and they had outstanding individuals. Now are this you rent a talented. Is that Madrid side. No they're not by their still talented enough that if things break their way. They're in with a shout. I mean a less talented team without Christiano Renaldo reach two Champions League finals so I don't know it needs to come together but you're not gonNA come out and say oh. They're not good so they're not GonNa win because otherwise we might go. Just go as well go home. And just give it another champion's league title Liverpool because they're the best team in Europe. And what do you think the best team in Europe and I think that will take a very very good team to stop them winning it again this year. As for you vent this no. I don't think they'll win it but I take cabs point on board. The Champions League is a different animal. They've got a softish draw this time. I'm not saying it's going to be easy but I think they're going to go through and after that you are into the quarterfinal stage. So they've got some European experience and they've got some talented players and they've got a Cristiano Renaldo who still fit and firing and still a big big factor. So I wouldn't rule them out completely speaking out of being a big factor gav Markazi on earth. Is this about? This is the Carnival in in Asia where it's customary. They have a big parade they have different floats honoring various people. And that's your version of the Cristiano Renaldo One. I mean the way I see it. It's better than the Cristiano Renaldo Statue right from. Check your flu carneval Next Week. Brian. Lara around no. You will not be seeing me around. Everywhere Whittingham pulpit. I know yes exactly. That's his dream and that's how his can Konovalov looks really doesn't Beg Rinaldo push it. Doesn't Roy catch off you? Go Run out as eventers favorites advanced to the final after that jaw against a C. Milan that second leg is on March? Fourth meanwhile play from the other times well and not Li of highland varnished inter on March. It was confirmed today. The hacking Zych. We'll be joining Chelsea in the summer. They supplier of course has had a great time. I actually keep part of their run in the Champions League last year. Also of course. Winning narrative is the last the season as well. This is the deal you wouldn't show that was going to get it done but it's being done very quickly over the last twenty four hours i. I wasn't sure it was going to be done because we've been here before we can. They had been sold to Napoli a couple of years ago. And then at the last minute personal terms there was an issue when you ended up staying. This time hasn't happened. I think it's very good signing for Chelsea. I think it offers us some clues about what they're planning summer yesterday mistakenly said that William had extended his contract. Apparently they're still closed. But that hasn't happened yet. I wonder how moves the needle because of course we talked about this yesterday? They've been linked with Jaden Sancho was well given that you've got politic there and calm Hudson and you've added Zayeck you still the priority of another center forward to pair with to provide alternative timing Abraham. I don't quite know how this all how this all fits together. And whether they're foregoing the sanctuary thing or if they've got something up their sleeve at the stage forty four million seems a good deal in for play. What ten twenty seven next month in his peak stats are really good? Aren't they in the Netherlands? I think he's a terrific player. Who's matured a lot? I think he's he's a much stronger player now and I think in his past. He's an interesting story. Is Father Died Young? I mean he's the youngest of nine children a couple of his brothers. I think we're in prison for A. He's had mood swings and difficult period where he deleted all his. I xe photos from his social media accounts because of criticism of the team. I think he's come through that he's come out the other side. I think you saw his performance. When drew four four Stamford Bridge was brilliant that night? I think you'll play on the right for Chelsea cabs right. They got a lot of players. Who are in contention for places wide but I think it might mean the end for William Chelsea. I think he might be on his way in the summer. Everything is clear saying that. Probably Santiago is That show too. You're going to end their interest in science. You're not not that. I don't think he's a great player. But when frontline pod will have a budget and know that you say it doesn't need another player they can play white left the white right or another playmate because he already has Three or four of them with Hudson with politics with Mason Mount Zion. Who can fill a couple of different roles and so hence the budget will have to go and other possessions striker. Maybe another midfielder. Maybe I defend wherever I wouldn't expect Sancho to be on on the shopping for Chelsea Anymore Chelsea of course on winter break. That concludes on Monday. As they take on Manchester United at Stamford Bridge. Of course. It's the Olympics. Could SALA GOING TO REPRESENT EGYPT? This water coach have to say we cannot four science participate with US participation with the Pharaoh scene is a decision to be taken only by Salah his club Liverpool and his coach urine clock fast about they said no decisions made from either side. That's all I can say. I wish we could have had the whole squad together. Preseason games it's wonderful would be not so cool fair within Liverpool's at preseason plans and what do you think well remember. The Africa Cup of Nations is being moved back to January next season so sellers can be missing for that period of the season next year already so I think it might be trying on a little bit by Egypt to be calling seller up for the Olympic Games as an over age player. That's going to eat into the style of the season. It's going to eat into Liverpool's preparations for the season. And if you're an international manager you've got to be a little bit diplomatic because with your star player and appreciate the clubs point of view and I think really they could do without sal off of the Olympics. Thank thank y'all can quote will have a now a nice conversation with them and Saleh will probably make the correct decision which is just stay. His Club on prepare for the season rather than goal from played an underage under twenty. Three is an overage player. The point I don't think there should be an issue. Come time to make a decision right now. Is You only part of a fifty pound squad and listen up to more Saleh? Given the amount of football is played the sensible thing for him to do. Never Mind. What you club thing. Never Mind whether under twenty three team wants you to do rest. I think he takes a decision. Meanwhile just nine Bundesliga game for Borussia. Dortmund they play host Frankfurt Dortmund of course looking back after last weekend's of defeats in the Premier League action this weekend on Friday Saturday Sunday and Monday Fridays game. Against less than we'll be looking back at both of those games on the next edition of MC. Yes Ladies and gentlemen and not shocker. Here slop will be here. Meanwhile the Champions Champions League returns next week Spurs take on live sick bad news of course for Leipzig and the US national team. Today is confirmed that Tyler Adams will be out of game enables. Men came out and said. There's some bad news started as police cars yesterday. He'll definitely miss vertebrae imminent spurs otherwise. There's nothing new to report speaking of the Bundesliga. Of course quite the drama involving young Clinton's men over the last few days Gab. Yes Obviously Jurgen. Klinsmann has left her to Berlin. The club had big plans. Have a wealthy investor in Lars von Horst but after ten games are so Uragan announced that he was resigning ten games in which one three of ten games in charge and The Club didn't take your well. They said he's he's acting like a child or spoiled teenager. Supposedly it's tension between him and the sporting director Michael predates prince's. Come out and said Look Clinton wanted to go and control everything you want to control transfers and contracts and whatever at club somebody has to have the last word and frankly it's me not him. Supposedly Clinton has since apologized but the club are extremely upset with him because they lined up all the sponsors who supposedly we're we're Lord by Klansman's name and now he's gotten any surprise how public this is not really because stories tend to leak is good journalist. Do the job burn what I do. Think about it and I. I don't know all the INS and outs of the story and I don't think anybody can unless you're on the inside of it so I say a power struggle between young Klinsmann and the people controlling the club. He wanted more power. But if you are another club now I think Yoga and Clinton's damaged goods sees only stayed there for seventy days looks from the outside as if he was just wanting an out. So who's going to employ him next? Meanwhile into Miami finally get there man. Rodolfo Pizarro confirmed as the latest addition to the squad of course Mexican International Twenty five years of age. Real coup for the new franchise. He's expected to light it up in. Mls and just a reminder. We will have you covered of course throughout the season. And you can see Pizarro in action as into Miami take on L. Afc is the second game of our double header on March. The first the first being defending champions Seattle sounders taking on Chicago. Fire both for those games available on. Espn all you stupid or something. That was a high philosophy. The we can always check that out over. Speaking of stupid say it is time for Shack is power rankings again. I don't let that go into into this this week. Is this last one before you go to carnival. Possibly y'all do. How is it all top swap months? They lost in the Cup. Not simply come right back in keep loving boss so to keep breaking. Muhammad then they messy all live so they get lost against the weekend. Yeah but they had no drew. Today six batter live. Sigler live sick in this list. They're not wine because the economy by right on yesterday check on. Yesterday I say took several top two okay. Pse Fair series sack Liverpool and Liverpool. Choose an DOC is still with. Us really appreciates they say jacker live Paul Number One. I haven't played this week. Aircraft somewhere member number one for a very long time so they had a little league. Who had rest shocks them for that to be your mind. They've gone unbeaten this week. So now now. That really isn't shy back Even appropriately you have to. Maybe you could do your head from Carnival and somehow expense the trip like think about out of power rankings. At next we can you imagine. Hey maybe we could trait feathers and I confide extra time is always feel so. He's got a lot to get through today. The first one goes to Gab. And off the back of your route Spending your first album dropping kicked each you work in some more material you know. Give it some time I know. Don't worry I'm not going to let my fans down He. Did you see this? You know we're talking about not the the idea of a golden hour of gap mark on a record label as got me intrigued. Checkout is rap that went viral earlier meanwhile you crank you want to handle mbappe with an iron hand the same thing I am. I wrong anyway right same thing. You Criticize Marini overdoing with Paul. Barron Company. He doesn't how to handle modern footballers Marino. Dozens that's what you were saying. Apparently or you do was Craig does not handle modern ice on ICEE. Marie-noelle doesn't know how to handle modern apparently dud Don't think so. No cab made the noise because you know what I'm kind of tired of all the abuse. Pod begets especially when he's playing his body language and this and that I am sorry. Did I Miss Parker being substituted and then ignoring his manager completely when his manager tried to talk to him not once but twice season did. Did that happen last season or the year before. It's completely apples and oranges the relationship between Marino and park. And what Imbaba Dave very very publicly to? I'm not going to go the burly iron-fist way emergency. That's right. It might be other reasons. But I don't see how you can compare him bought and pogue but in any way shape or form other than the fact that they both happened to be French. Next question is what about this quote? Sabina manual petite there are a few messy would not be able to play in the premier league. What you guys think those well few Elaine up the people think Massey wouldn't be able to put in the predominantly manufacturing. Epa struggling dining meals didn't fit into the Manchester City side. One of those people yet. You think method struggling department this is laughable. Leonov messy is a genius of apply. He could play MAS chocolate. You don't think he's the best ever Lino Mashpee couldn't play again. One of the worst million eight teams off. No teams Tottenham Site Rev site among. Say say the struggled defensively. What did you against Liverpool last year? Now goes honestly whenever people bring stuff they should they should be frog mouth of whatever building the Renner Jane Right that and which team is Fateh. Barcelona two thousand eleven current Liverpool or Manchester United triple winners in ninety nine. I'm going to go for the top of my head. I'm going to go for the Barcelona team in in two thousand eleven. Because I was there that night when they wanted. Wembley and I remember walking out the ground. I said to my son who was seventeen at the time. If you ever see anybody played better than that you'll be very very lucky. That was agreed to see. You know the people he saw you there sir. Can you say even brought that into the seventy s and I'm GONNA play Which one would you go for? Our they went to those eleven. Say that Bustle I agree with. It was absolutely mesmerizing. I think not the Best Club team of Cebu that shocker here done. A gap was there as well. I was there and I would go with Barcelona simply for the fact that this Liverpool season is over yet. The book has not yet been written if they run roughshod through the Champions League and and then perform like they've performed all season in the premier league and do it big time and whatever and who knows. Maybe maybe we'll put them ahead of Barcelona but for now. Liverpool's season isn't finished yet so I don't think we can. You can even begin to to judge them in that way. No question just wanted science. Brilliant boiling point back. There should be someone someone to shoutout onscreen. And those Larry still shots from the insurance of the segment should be displayed prominently. What got cradle to retirement? Do I defending referee. Company started out shocked to have a great respect for you bring with dengue dosing. For Goodness Sake I mean. That's a crazy one isn't it? What is he thinking about even going public with that? That's just fancy. Between referees and players is to be encouraged surely I mean. What is he doing moaning about that? He's been he's been Well he's out of character. Assassination going on in the English meteor and a half to say he's a bit of it. Meanwhile those e and maybe an average soccer commentator but excellent boxing. This question for you in. Thanks for the candidates compliment to win the second that between Walden and fury. I've got the bronze Boma which once upon in The bronze Bombay's is wild out right Who's WHO's going to win. I think fury can outbox him. I think he won the first fight. They called it a draw but I think fury really wanted Bronze Boma. You don't know while is known as the bronze bomer not. I know who he is fun. I know while furious. I didn't know the bronze bullman apologies for that. F- well angry. You'd be next boiling point as long as long as a by the way not wasn't the average football commentator wasn't the question that was done by the. Yeah he's six mischievous rarely could have folks. F Tyson Fury Avoidance Go Fury Boise Punches then fury when every doesn't avoid runs almost punchy because he's an absolute auto off this could be in trouble. Okay Good Strike Barrett. Collagen them shocker. Yeah the bronze Obama Rago fury anymore on that adults about said I was. I was a Cairo coach. Embiid IF I and Nottingham Ice Arena world title in Wisconsin writes. I never said hello all right now. I said all right halfway through the third round Craig look over during the show which made me think. Is that another vice versa. The question of what they know right. What did you say vice versa? The only one who says that what did you. You said remedied. Yeah another one word Raymond. Yeah yeah he was on the phone right next to me and clearly to another passing from the Caribbean when he goes to the Caribbean voice. It's Secret Code Privacy. English English the first twenty seconds of what level gave up. It's brilliant. I love it English. Hey it's going to be in full blown mode isn't that a carnival makes way what it costs and we got feathers. Also it's costume salts. Question on five question is brilliant. We know Craig like seagulls. The favorite seagulls. Melvin victory isn't it? Yeah Love Sandy. Mckee novel the highlight until the peggie. Yakima until the steed goes paid. Same thing now that it's all the same thing it's all the same both Catholics. Your favorite birds the bronze bomber us. And you were telling me you hate. I don't think I ever said that I'm GONNA. I'M GONNA go for Eagles and owls crazy. I know but the Hawks Jim. Fighting the golf club. Oh good come down right. You see them. We watched some stevie night life. We lead. I'll tell you the some begins as well when they come. You see them over the road. Whitton and these. It's no shock go friend. A- The scarlet ibis which is not should bid of acts like. How would you describe it? Big Red Own yes. I got back tomorrow. Checkers off you used in the show. I ate his head to do the show. Gavin I cop and a phone in from the Gulf coast watching chasing home people watching on the go it's goodbye.

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Napoli Stun Juventus

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00:00 sec | 9 months ago

Napoli Stun Juventus

"Welcome insulates edition of ESPN AFC. I'm Dan Thomas John. By Craig and shocker. Later on we are reflecting thing on what happened in the footballing world but we start. Something reminds us that sport. Does it really matter toby. Bryant died today at the age of forty one in a helicopter copter crash in California. Of course well known for being one of the best basketball stars ever however loves sport went beyond that genuinely a big soccer a fan tributes being paid today across Europe tweeting. We have no words to express how shocked we are to hear the tragic passing of one of the greatest sportsman of of all time. Monroe scenario fan coby Bryan. All our thoughts are with the families of those affected by this tragic accident. You will forever be missed. Kobe and your pillow tweeting. You've been an example for our generation. Rip Legends so many other players tweeting similar sentiments. Meanwhile F C Barcelona Loaner tweets. It shocked by the death of Kobe. Brian and exemplary athlete both on and off the basketball court. Our most heartfelt condolences to his family and loved ones Lonzo rest in peace. PSG meanwhile the club would like to express its deepest condolences with family and friends the Lakers and the NBA a family of the tragic passing of Kobe Bryant Rip Legend meanwhile. We saw name our score penalties today in the second half of pse against Lil two and four held up to pay tribute to Kobe. Of course his number Got Marcatti with us a gob of course much loved in the basketball community. You mean it's spread beyond that sport. Yeah no question about it. I mean I think of all the American basketball stars. There's probably not one who who was as involved in football lived it as emotionally Kobe Bryant. And and you know he wasn't just a fan. He obviously had had roots on this side of the pond. His Father Joe Jelly Being Bryant played for seven years in needling Kobe. Kobe moved there when he was six years old and we spent his formative years of the age of six to thirteen and in various Italian cities. That's where he developed his his love for for Milan which obviously continued throughout the years as he got older as you went to lower merion high school in in Philadelphia and then later on into the NBA and basketball. A lot of football stars are crossover basketball fans hands but but this is one that really went in the other direction and was very much genuine. You know he would spend his summers a lot of back in Italy before or becoming a professional and and then went to to watch friendly matches over the summer and the sport in a very genuine way. It's it there was no token support or they genuinely love the game. Well exactly and I think that's what sets it up but it's almost like a weird dichotomy right because you don't often get superstar athletes who are also fans but he was a fan of the sport before he became a a famous athlete in a different sport. Obviously he was. He was a good very good basketball. Players are seven eight ten year old but already then he'd been bitten by the bug. He was a football fan and remained with him even as he went on to make. Two T T T to make basketball history and rewrite the record books. Brian was on his way to a travel basketball game with his daughter. Jonah those aboard the helicopter also included another player in parent the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department say they would no survivors big weekend in La Liga. A good one if you're around Madrid fans in the Dean's inside right now. Three points clear at the top of the table. That's after Real Madrid beat rival by the live by one goal to nil naturally the head of owning that game meanwhile henke set the Info suffered his first defeat has coach of Barcelona two nil atmosphere against Valencia. Let's start there. Shall we gap BALSA. I think is might say well. Eighty percent that they had in the first half they had no shots look at. It's very easy to go in poonam for for for for lack of penetration Came in a new idea was that he returned to Barcelona values and the Tiki Taka of the early pet quoted Yola era but I think the reality is a type of football. It's only gonNA work if you go. And you achieve penetration take shots on goal and that requires movement upfront. which right now embark slow? Don't have the chemistry is not there. Also Louis Suarez the only genuine centre forward. They have I've he's not there either But this is earned him a ton of criticism also missing and this might be even harder. Replicate is is that aggressive press which collapse Barcelona had back in the day. And you know that's GonNa be tough to do given given the age of of messy at this stage of his career. Antoine Congressman is well. These guys aren't suited to press in the same way so looks to me like sedans going to have to figure a few things up. Adapt and evolve in some things will come in time. I'm others I'm not so sure enough. There's a little fella who is going to get very frustrated very quickly now because I always say possession is great it has to be passing with a purpose and not just for the sake of eight hundred policies and what you said. You have to have the penetration. You gotta try. Tim's go to try and maneuver the possession and then with some quick passing. We see Seti Dona Liverpool donate. We'll see we're talking about the end form team in Europe going forward very quickly at times not scared to a long ago. Not Sketchy to shift forward quickly with pace. And he's going to have to find out balances essay a some of the things during the game. In the end they ended the date. It was the the normal service was resumed when things go go particularly well it was. Oh my God. Let's just kept the bulk. Toledo man had an off day. Eleven shots would be sitting up for some time. We're unless messes superhuman this boss when the team simply con con get the job done and and that was clearly. A sense is a fixed that I listen to. I understand you go back to that. All philosophy that works so well we're boxer keep the ball on and find find a way to to to bring your position down. It Would Wealth Award Hewlett. Because you've got the likes of Yunnan yesterday. I just don't see that this person in an team Cossack kind of creativity I think Dion can-do it boosts gets it and just the four things anyway as effective and then what you have is messing going to drop to get together on the ball every single time and that leaves him in positions not have the fact that you hope he does or set the leans him to do well. He's just a door. I know famous to him as just an but he's not in the philosophy. Business is an end the results business and it ended the he's GonNa have to figure even though he's essays is just as landing scored their lending a hand but ultimately quite simple game with pretty good players. He's got that shouldn't be over complicated and I think it's a little bit back to basics of what they want to achieve because he's got to get results bottom line Real Madrid we've touched on over the course of the shoal they they getting results even when they're not playing particularly well. That's Gone Gabbard. If you want to say no I think the the most obvious thing though in terms of sit-ins approach or what some people think it should be is that the guy who invented it the Guy Who mastered the Guy who took it to another level pep guardiola. That guy doesn't play that way anymore. He evolved from that type of football to a different type of football at Byron and now at City when when the two league titles he's also got a pretty good passers at field in Debrecen and David Silva and yet he doesn't in play that way anymore so in some ways parcel seemed to be earning for a golden pass that they had ten years ago. That even the guy who who who created it doesn't rely on anymore. Well something degrees been gap. I think it's a difficult. Why not I mean I think are there is a legitimate cultural shock? Going from a team like lady playing on your own away that you'll es all that stuff to who different stage at Barcelona with a different philosophy a different setting I guy who is the star man. And it's not you having to adapt Personally I think ghostwriters out he should be playing down the middle but that's difficult to do now city and wants wants more pressing as well which means he's going to have to run himself into the ground and a little more. He looks across the front line and he's got a seventeen year. Old Kid Fatty and Lionel Messi Wasi GonNa go and do all that work off the ball either. I think all these things weigh pretty heavily on them and I'm sure he'll stop by the funk at some point by but who knows what that's is going to be might be next season. Meanwhile has Craig mentioned Gab. Rahmatullah looking good not playing particularly well but getting results. Yeah and I don't the thing that they're playing badly. I mean not like this incredible Galactica Real Madrid entertain SORTA team no. They're not and the reason that that they're not is that especially in the final third of the pitch. They've had so many injuries and absences and he's at that makes it match obviously Gareth Bale and they're still available. Sensors obviously been out all season. You know he's a defined different frontlines at different times. You've got Rodrigo in there who let's forget this. This is still a teenager. East Coast part of that front three today. You know. He's kind of had to invent things as as they go along. But I think what you still see very very clearly. This audrey side is real. Clarity of intent is a real team. Unity the midfield guys like Tony Crows. like moderates when he plays taking responsibility funds ability and and then that's encouraging then the results come in you have a base on which to build and then let's see what he does with his front three once all available house house in this when you were living in Madrid striving for those no I know would. Would it be seen as more important for them to be talk dogs and sprayed again especially considering possible nerve on it so many times. I've been getting back will the where which was for three four years the worst. Ah Yes they would say. The League champions they wouldn't even be a semi. Is that Kennedy League competition. It's become so important. I Fola thank to be the top dog spin again with Barcelona having some issues the moment and with athletic in Madrid settling having some issues with the whole change of personnel their their results. It's not just go and take it's a great opportunity. Most definitely and by the way and Barcelona Celona will still favorites up until we to a goal with the bookies which is a strange ramage it favorites. We now shit yes I just despite the Maija change change. Just don't think Boston how Tonelli to do as Wanson and clearly carry Lionel Messi in that we as you mentioned on Ramaphosa just keep grinding results out. I think we're going to win it. Meanwhile in England it was all about the FA Cup this we can. They finish luxury town to Liverpool to which means that livable have a replayed during the so-called winter break and this is what you have to say about it in April two thousand nineteen we are live from the Premier League where they asked to respect the wings a break to organize international friendlies. At least not to organize competitive games in respect of it. I have sent to the boys already. Two weeks ago that we will have a winter break so that means we will not be that it with the caves. He'll play that game I know he's don't very popular but that's the way I see if then the FA do not respect it then we cannot change. Well I tell you this. And he's always been these bonnets since arriving in England about the scheduling around this time year. But as for the time being what I would say as the Premier Right Megan the FAA have to really try and be on the same page. Because I went breaks a winter break surely otherwise. It doesn't make sense. Whoever not the only ones and not bought other clubs have replaced on the other side of the coin of hobbies a player at Liverpool? Our build. Absolutely love my manager right now because I'm thinking well whilst I realized the FA Cup was important from a plan perspective. We have the League in the Japanese League to fight for a couple of weeks with the along right. That's my mind and just going. They say I'm getting a break rather than played in a replay as a player. I think I'll be pretty happy with your is also pleased to have a manager who you knew. Stand up for you if if that's what it comes down to which is clearly of what trump is doing but but for me as an adult understand. How how the pre me get themselves in such muddle over this one minute? Everybody's complaining about a winter break. You're seeing there's no winter break when people are calling forward during the December and January months so then you throw it in later on in the the end in February and then then no you see in that you have to play. That's when you schedule your replaced for it. It makes absolutely no sense. I'm with your top on this. This one hundred percent play the kids that did all right against US breathe did pretty well against Everton as well give them another goal gabby thing I think it's up. It's down probably down to KLOPP. I mean we feels about these competitions could have moved the Champions League I. I'm sorry championship. If only that League Cup Semi Final Against Aston Villa to a different feature when it clashed with club World Cup. He chose not to. He played the kids easy. Got Pasted. Obviously this is not a priority for him. He's Liverpool are very scientific in their approach. With the rest of the recuperation. We saw the lineup lineup. Put out against Everton. He's feelings on. This are very very clear I think I he has every right to do to do this. Because he's serving up a tremendous product. He's easy running away with the League. Now he's doing this because maybe once a point record in the premier league maybe he wants to go and defend his Champions League title he's entirely entitled to do this and I genuinely hope that when I pick up my papers tomorrow. He's not gonNA be some muppet taking him to task for disrespecting the sanctity of the FA Cup and all this other nonsense suggestions. He won't be on the bench that game either. The throwing coach might be. I mean Stevie Joe's at checkout best too weak on our youtube channel eight dramatic weekend right across the board in Italy on Saturday Ashland's with a seven nil win away against Torino. Meaning now just one point of romance in fourth as it finished one one in the room Darby Romo Excellent Flint throughout but in the end. They couldn't get it done a point there. Meanwhile the big game big surprise Napoli beating eventers by two goals to one early on the day. It was Calgary one into Milan. One now dramatic scenes at the end of this game up there in Montana should add a foul got booked for dissent and then double down on that descent and we get sent-off extraordinary scenes at the end of the match content apparently stalk in the ref at the end of the game and I want to start with that because they refuse to speak to the media after the match go to take this on a well spiky before the game is well when people pointed out. Oh look you're going out and signing everybody's like baller signed half of Madrid. Don't expect miracles but the reality is I think what is most upset about is obviously louder now facing a possible two-match ban because of his attitude toward referee. That would mean that they he would miss not just the next game name but the Milan Darby as well and obviously angry because once again it's points dropped and the fact that into dropped point after taking the lead. This is a team that for whatever reason in the last twenty twenty five minutes tends to lose it. What's going on gap as you say? This is becoming a pattern of warring starring Patterson well so the stock explanation that Konta gives his people need to work work work and we need to play in high speed. We need to be intense towns Blah Blah Blah and. I don't have the players to be intense for ninety minutes. He's probably right on that front. Will we have seen a drop of intensity. And we've also seen in situations I think in the past one because of injuries at the play the same is over and over again and they're not exactly spring chicken so they would take it down a notch and they would would pay for it Laden Games but you know what there's more than one way to play football. It's more than one way to skin a cat you can go out there and figure Out a different way of playing. Where maybe you kind of managed to gain better and you don't have to run yourself into the ground because even nine goal was and it was unlucky in those the deflections and whatever else I mean that was a result of Stefano scenes you had wrought himself into the ground not being able to get in position to to to go and in defending the pre much press conferences? No for county should be. Are you going to do much. Brace confidence because I've seen it before is attached and some some sense. The team is a mirror image of we saw military Martinez Air. But he's punchy. The Coaches Punch Vice. The way they operate no they're gonNA have to Qatada if only go all the way because you've got people without discipline on a regular basis. The other reason it had been so frustrated because not point he he was probably sure in his head. That event is we're going to pick up all three points and Naples what state doesn't however however the recent form is warrior in terms of them all the way pushing event is right to the end the kind of afford to keep dropping points. Because I don't think event this will continue to and by the time you see teams mirror image of Antonio Conte I just fine and especially given his tetanus God puts it you given the pleasant excuse abuse to be second best lead on this understand how you play and everything that goes into you dropping off in the last twenty twenty five minutes. But to Tagab gobs point you mentioned player signings and all of a sudden you throughout as as an execution we really not that good. I mean eventually that tells would play his own mentality. Meanwhile Napoli against the events us. We didn't get to say this very simple. What a good week? It's been phenomenally Gab. Warm warm we're the of course that has a knock on effect because it was a good week for for injuring lots and they would never expected it but they both gained point on you like it was obviously very very emotional. Night for Naples is one of those nights when this bottle really comes alive like very few other stadiums in the world they were busy abusing Gonzalo even before the game name. And of course Modise Assadi Gede Up Tuesday when it comes to chest-beating and motivating in need extreme situations. That's something he does very very well and they were. They were orderly at the back. You've created very little in the first half and I think that's got to be a concern because we seen. Can you play really well. They did it mid week and then it seems like they take one step forward and then they take another step back because what they produced against Napoli simply isn't good enough. I mean what's before you get into shows me spilling and and seniors great finish. Your these are games that you saw in the illegally era. They would somehow out out while maybe not playing. Great the reality here. They didn't play great and they didn't get away with it and I think that's what's different. This can't become a pattern for you there otherwise otherwise the race is still very much on and understand the chesapeake and understand. Could choose again. Napoli up for the experience. You've Eisai initially used to that but they cook completely flat today. I mean they just had A. They had a day. Where did not play as well as the hub and the GOP said not we? They were very well organized. Leave too many jobs. The cocktail gave it just a few chances and they created chances themselves so they themselves actually hit one of the Games. And you know it's not great if you've ever event this but I think almost everybody was sitting watching the result was going on with that. Event is way even even at that point six points or some. WHO's going to call them back? But I think you can see that the mom to say the ones we are in terms of right via gonNa go away straight to the end of the season the not going to be dropping points. I just don't think salaries gotland not convinced at the moment. And that's the hopeful. The those around the the thing for me is an listen. We've been seeing that you've been playing well for quite some time then began results. I was again evidently. I mean you look at your vendor simply too often often but not just playing these long up from the backwards not be doubled real easily and I thought monopolies football from back to front was a whole lot better. They were by far battery. Two teams but from eventers perspective. Sh actually didn't have a whole lot to do until that senior shot that that he made an absolute mess of so so in that respect that we're getting event is doing as we've seen eventers do pretty much all season long but they make a mistake. Nappy Napoli make a Cohn. And then there was no unsearchable eventers and until until late on is always the on switch for the serial podcast even the more reasons and joining this week. cavs off a mystery guests. Louis joined them. Be sure to check it out the cabin Gills podcast drops tomorrow be sure to check it out over on the website. Well that brings us to the end of today's edition. ESPN AFC thank you very much to Craig to Shack Gab. Got mentioned at the top of the show. The death breath Kobe. Bryant really has been felt to internationally and that's the pizza Mayes by the sports newspapers. And you just take a look at some of them. Starting off in Spain the front on page of ASS leads with. Kobe is eternal. Meanwhile staying in Madrid markelle pain and Gloria Black and white. Mike Picture of Kobe in the spotlight in Catalonia. Sport newspaper leads with Kobe. Immortal and in France France l'Equipe. Bryant's The star.

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Can Juventus Achieve UCL Glory?

ESPN FC

00:00 sec | 10 months ago

Can Juventus Achieve UCL Glory?

"What we put in for the upgrade in the request was granted a home for the next WCHS FEUD ON ESPN NFC Bank stadium that is the home of La play in mls in the United States? Welcome into today's show Adrian Healey with one hundred Marino and shake hislop's continue. We have one allesandro. Del Piero joining us in just a few moments jets. How about that? We'll get to that because let's start with majesty in ninety. They beat wolves by Golden L. much-needed victory in the FA Cup third round replay. Juan Mata with the only goal. What did you make of what you're sore? While he was like the first game. Yeah Yep sometimes watchable and I think Manchester United of course take the fact that they're advancing in the competition and where we are with Manchester United take wins. Whichever way they come but I think being there the topic of conversation for my to say united is Marcus Roger and what is his status? Because if you're to highlight anybody from this team and it's hard to find somebody to hide live from Manchester United. It would have to marcus rat for and the work that he has done this year. We might say you're not and so if he's not if he's not ready to go this weekend if this is a long-term injury if there is a bigger issue with him then majesty not. I don't know where they turn to score goals to create chances to be dangerous in the counterattacking opportunities which is where my Senate has been at the very best to me. Meant to say united need badly and if he's somehow is missing some time I don't know where you might just say listen marcus for his easily Manchester United's most important player right now especially given some of the football that we've been seeing from them as a US rightly mentioned gives Socia- a real headache. And I'd you Larry but you try to take positive go out of going through to the next round gave mic like that. At least they're alive and competing for one piece of silverware that season. And then you get this bill and now the question becomes who plays to the middle. Maybe you took Mossy Allen. Maybe maybe not jeeves. It it provides a problem for social that again -ticipant and I'm not sure that as a club. Manchester United are ready to answer. They simply don't have enough gal enough firepower going forward and to lose your most valuable asset. I'm not sure how he put on by the way it's Liverpool next. You'd may meanwhile in France the league standings now looking like this. PSG have extended over. Tony points point differential. They go they beat Monaco. Four water looked mighty fine in doing so. We we want to talk about what we will talk about. Is the Champions League when. PS G remain fourth favorites. According to the bookies boss Lana Liverpool and mentioned sitting ahead of them and given the question marks perhaps about at least two of those three teams ahead of them is there more of a case with each passing week the BAPS This A. Pts's yeah. I I think have a squad and potentially having eleven that can go on to win this especially when you consider the inconsistencies of of some of the others. I I think Piaget's biggest issue right now is do you play the fouled. Four is a front three. Give sheeting from them playing for a front plato for today against Monica that team coupled yet when the cameras he simply because when you when that four plea the other six just filling in gaps and and it becomes to fracture a team which works by the League with as Monaco. But I don't think can challenge some of the big boys in the competition Liverpool city or Real Madrid That becomes their big. Are you feeling you feeling mom feeling. And this is a wide open competition. I'm feeling that those teams that are above fears. Gi according to the bookies are teams that have had their issues and on our to some degree. Vulnerable Yeah And so if you're you have to make a case for yourself thinking wait a minute. If there was ever an opportunity to win it is right now. Is this era era and we have the players to do it. It's finding the right combination shack just mentioned but the right combination has to be surrounding one guy one guy only the and that has to be big performance big time difference making performances from Neymar. If he does that then imagine how much phase that creates for. Guy Lyon Bob Inbet- bobby with space Neymar as he goals. Now we're talking about a whole different. Mix switching things up just for a couple of minutes recently breaking news on the African Cup of Nations Shack Carry Carrie. It's going to go back to a winter competition in two thousand twenty one in Cameroun remember. It was in the summer in Egypt. What do you make this move? I'm a little bit torn on this in that I believe leaving the integrity of competitions and of the confederation's to set those dates for those competitions but having played in England for one of the smaller lesson noon countries that doesn't gone to the respective of the other European countries. I understand how difficult balancing act is for both players and those countries. She's an with their clubs and it becomes a real tug. No listen if you see to any club you can sign side your money. But he's gone missing for three weeks every two years they'll take you still signed him. It doesn't it doesn't make the challenge on the time any easier for the country. Meanwhile also cup action in Italy the Copa Italia. The quarterfinals are almost Seguin V.. Aventis AC Milan and Fiorentina it also getting through an talking off you ventures We promised you a special guests. Alison Del Piero Getting finishing touches. He'll be with us in just a few moments. You know us when we probably something we delivered what we have delivered here onset. Legend Allesandro. Del Piero thank you advantages. Legend Azzurri legend joining US onset. Maybe some people well don't realize Alexandra ever since he retired in two thousand fourteen. You've lived right here in La. Tell us tell us a little bit about your life in La. Wow you've done after the two years in sitting yeah decided to come here where there's a big threshold other thousands of other things so decided to move here with my kids my family. We're here. We are quite happy. For years ago he tappin. So yeah it's you. Have you have a restaurant. But I'll go number ten sandy west. Hollywood is can we do promotion. Invited me about. This is a really good food healthy. So yes yes yes happy to have you guys Well let's talk a little football allesandro before we eat at your restaurant. Just just confirming firming that you venture so the mob. I'd love to. We'd love to get your thoughts on what you think of. You've enters under Maurizio salary right now event. This is quite team for I. I mean really. It's already that they have. They build a team the need to think about tomorrow. What that means is that program? Tom Were set down every early in the year. They make a right adjustment and this happened because Italian league lately wasn't great like before so that's means that you can even make some mistakes. Sometimes you still win the League but by far they have the best. The best is team. It's not only the result. Say that the number of the players number of the quality of the players are more than the other teams This year only inter can stay at the same level for the League for the Italian league. Teams like lots resort lately. They can beat you of course but the focuses Chiampou definitely the day. Are we missing. Chapters ego part part of the event is family missing chimpanzee for for a while now and this is the main focus all the things that they are doing for that. The reason why you know of course stay on the top of the League twenty two amazing players some three three four injuries they can replace easily and a high level and this is what we see in the beginning of the season unit. Even this season with that they came back come top. It's sometimes is enough them. Play Twenty thirty minutes quite well to make the results safe. If that's all you don't think lots you have enough to make this a three-horse race not the end. I think they're doing amazing worker. Not only this year so the pastors but in order to reach that level. You need to do something really special unless you create inside the club inside the team that special things that you know. Give you extra energy. If we're talking about quality of the players Yes one game name. They can win against everyone. They want supercup now so but all league ten months in. Are you go through. Injuries market changing engine club needs money. Sometimes you don't find what you want and this is when happened these kinds of things you know. Start probably inside the club and the need to solve by the way but meanwhile you need to play at. That's the two things sometimes doesn't doesn't match in great shape I I don't think enough to win the title when we talked you renters and it's easy to see how successful they have been and when we valuate their performances this year and even though they've only lost once the whole season in all competitions he's still expect more in terms of the quality of play because off the quality of players that you just mentioned. Is that something to be worried about. If you'RE A fan. No this is such a good point and plus us I want to What happened last summer? The change between Allegra in Surrey was in that direction. Make the team play much better than before because because there were kind of complaining. Don't play well with the fan. Only a zero. We want club that we'd five six year but this couple of facts very important first of all Italian league is is really tough even if you are a lower club you don't lose game. Six seven eight zero happened in Spain. Lean on sometimes defensively. We Still Song as Dr Tactically and as a single player. So that's one of the reasons why it or not though is scorning according even less than before so and the second one is. It's not easy when you play. Every three games have time training unit train. You need to be trained in some way to find what you want. The of Saturday is a wonderful idea that he showed with Napoli Pretty for three years not believe very probably the best football ever in Europe but each us three years ago the players and the sometimes doesn't match the club so high level priorities win. How I don't WanNa say that this is an option optioned but wade through is it not all about the Champions League this season Alissandria they last won it with you nineteen ninety-six it's been a long time? Ah they better equipped to do that this year. Under sorry yes no because even that other yes. They have incredible fear the loss against Barcelona. Yes probably the one that has it team as a single player as a mentality. Caligraphy mentality don't mean what is the. US has meant they're still the same win win win. Win Doesn't matter you win a game. You celebrate five minutes. Go back you you think to win the next one. I'm talking about the energy and the chemistry. That happened inside the team. Only with that special one. You can win the Champions League because if you see you have the chance to win the championship. Yes yes remedied. Yes person a lot of clubs seven eight at least they can do it and then show up. Allied Lusty St another each of the final almost win the template that we let me on us. We didn't see the five five top five team last year. At the beginning the seasons change now there is a big big moment the market. And what happened. Now is another big moment. Look at the bustle. Laura Barcelona chairs the coach. It's a big big decision. Change a lot even if you have a great player you rented fight on on so many different fronts are no a genuine title challenge from from intimate land. What do you make of Inter unto New Conti and changes that? He's made that squad to make them competitive each change a lot. First of all he has the support of of the club. This is very important. The Connection Connection Between Club and coach is really reimport especially and at my author before was a uber with contests or they can work together in some things and then he has really strong. Chong mentality really strict tickly really stick you see into the Dan allies every game very well before coach. Me WanNa yes. Yes oh I know exactly what he's GonNa do is very tough training a lot south training for a long time. You Watch a lot of videotape. It's a big reputation so that's is a is a change and what happened in Chelsea with him that came back after join chassis seven place they Wunderlich and delete. It happened before this is what they want to do in a dinner as well if the players and the club follow him. This is what's going to happen now win for former former teammate of yours and contact and then he's coaching you. Did you enjoy playing on. Ah I know them in tied even when he was playing really strong straight but I enjoy a lot. Yes that was was the last one from me. I was very weird for different reasons. Not contact but Yeah I enjoy a lot. The Need to run a lot around wealth MHM makes the combination of two with them when you look at a player Ronaldo now at Juventus and you play with great players and your time do you think to yourself man. I could have done something with this guy right next Is it especially what he region East Korea and what is still doing now is something gene really special and here's a really strong wind tallahassee. This is from my point of view the biggest quality that yes because he he has plans his mind. Focus only football to consider to be the number one and he. What is going on every day for him? You didn't before going to bed you know. Can sometimes you do something else. You're talking about in West Hollywood ca. I stay home and and I prepare myself. He's really really well. Organized is an amazing. Yes Chalky numbers Alyssa. Four hundred seventy eight appearances for you. Ventures which was a record until g Broke that record. Just a few short loves to go. No question I just wanted to. I wanted to see that. Did you the surprise you went back to you. Did you surprise. Even if I know that he wants it but it's a big return throughout the rumors. Some critics as well. But he's a big is a big reunion and I think everybody happy about that. You know Kinda Kinda surprised me before the bench. That's because he's still an amazing shape. He's doing great. But if you think about you think about before an on on the field and now he's on the bench but there's a rematch okay. Don't mess with a player who was Honda event for the last few Games Martinez elite. who was a a tremendous investment by inventors? And there's a lot of hope and expectation delete. He goes to the bench then. There's the injury to them are all. He's now back on the field. What do you make of his performance? So far would you this. You defend him a lot at the beginning of the season when I mean that I say that that means that he did he did quite not great performance. Especially when you come back over the big money has both him and and the way that they they present him you know the big talent ever in in this period as a defender with Van Dyke. I mean you. Create a lot of expectation. Usually think think of that. We have to be perfect when something doesn't match with that you know you create rumors but but still an amazing what what change change as we mentioned mentioned before. Is this the way that Italy used to defend. Say Italy we most of the time We we need to play defense to cover yourself and and this is what not going. Sometimes Europe especially England. You play one of us or swine fine the defense you donate it so the start of the team any play as well in a very organized team so when you play very organized team you know his active before things happen what to do what could happen as well. So you you can think before and make their action on the straightaway now to adopt a new system a little bit. And this is a Y.. Takes some time to him to figure it out the position and they're all but yeah we go with him of course and then you know what happened but he I think he would be. It would be okay. The kinds of investments were made with one trophy in. The Champions League is mentioned before much city bookies favorites Sydney the book is in England. Who Do you think has the best chance of winning? Where's your money goes on the Champions League my money to the rest? Ah Well I still believe man CD can have really a chance. It's already ears are close by and for some reason we are one time via the next year did happen but is it really tough. I I think we have a great idea after the next round what happened the next day. It'd be yeah everybody can have a great idea because there is a stop between what happened in a winter and now the one and some changing market coaches some. Some of these changes can make you better most of the time. Nothing changed too much challenge. Dan came up during the season and won the trophy. So and it's very difficult but I'm saying that because when you come back after two months and they don't play the competition you will see which which kind of energy is on the other side Liverpool still have a big chance from my point of view because I love a love club and they were that is managed to things and they still free to play but I think they would be kind of bt with a with a leak. So what. Is your money going to see Terri. Seapower hey thanks for being with us before we go though you going to be appearing on a field very shortly with Boscell on bacelona inequitable. Yes just briefly. What what's that season? Friendly I ah I will join them. I've flied tonight. We Join Ecuador tonight and tomorrow by the way and will got passed by the Barcelona. I C I was career to be really fun night. Feel I show up through the field. The previous with the twenty to twenty five years old game. You know it'd be quite thank you so much for for joining us and we will be at your restaurant. Even if you're an Ecuadoran and we will check Allesandro said the tomorrow show much more from here in la as the week rolls on you could join us again. Thirty six in competitions mccollough who was the MLS MVP paid twenty nineteen and and Carlos. Valer is with US onset. Thanks for thanks for joining us. Cala before we get into you and L. AFC. I want to get your thoughts on the subject that everyone is talking about hitting his pants. Definitely you will see chicer- reto everyone talking about his potential arrival here in La just just down the road. You were teammates together. You played at two will come together. How would you feel about playing against him in? I think we'll be great if he's coming to. La will be nice signed for everybody being for the League will be good for the city will be good for arrived. Body will be good and I hope he will he will. If he's happy with that decision I will. I will be happy so I will kill him. Yeah I like it just goes allowed here. I will scored go one more said about being happy with the decision. They must be happy with your decision. Yeah Yeah when I take the decision decision to come here I was so happy and I think there is all are here so if you make the same for sure he will enjoy and he will do a good thing because circled Blair Carlos a little while ago your name was circulating some of the biggest teams in the world. The team like bats alone. Now Luis Suarez is on the shelf for about four months. Does that cross your mind that you could still be at target for a team like Barcelona no because the larger option I thought with people the year is not so. I'm not thinking about nothing because nobody call me. saw is some remorse like depressed meg or the people make okay but there's nothing still here. The mediary Tamar Kurdish clearly loving life here in La. The first year was very good. Your second year we just saw about. It took it even to what what what made the difference from year to year to. 'cause you're also wearing the captain's armband for the for the first dame for you was good but difficult to because new team teammates not nothing about nobody in your dressing room and it's hard to start to make some kind must really really deep feelings and the second year was it because they make me my job easy and I enjoy it so in that part. What is it to do the things I did? Are you going to Miss Latin which sure thing right player. And he helped me to better so always is important to play against hence the best players in the war so if he's coming into another good players will be excited for me and some motivation. Motivation to be better and do more things on there that you talk about Dole as if he's coming you're very good furniture study. I'm sure he picked up the phone and asks you what's La like what's vibe like. What's the league like what I dealt with him? Yes I know if we wanNA tell you I will put you in the group we go on time slot slot. That's no longer in the picture. Then so who's the nemesis for you this year group but now we're here on the set. I no no yeah. Yeah we'll see. Let me see who is in the league and then I will pick one as you build upon what you did here. Last last year is a team. Seventy two points. She set the record in the league. What's next I know you have CONCACAF Champions League coming this year that target this this simple champion the guys we feel we are the best team in the league? Play really well but when you win trophies and is a problem and if we really want to be the best team in the league we have to win. So doesn't matter if I win your your goal scored I wanna be champion is my target is my a focus from today until the end on the rest. This of course I will try to be the best. I would try to break records but the most important is win even the champion. If I'm Mexican soccer fan and I see the headlines Headlines on the newspaper and every time that you play your scoring goals and it's MVP and it's all the compensation as to how good you have been. I'm asking the question. Well how come this guy's not in the national team I'M I. I'm taking the perspective of a fan so I'll ask you. How come you're not in the national team? Because I think my chances I never get it like in the good way or never make that different to make Mexico to the next level and I feel like the news workers in three years so I have in three years are more better. Plays plays on me so all the chance to start to prepare your mind. His body his everything to really put Mexico in a better level. So why I'm like okay. Would be on my best niche. So let's go do it. It'll be in two years from from now and if you keep playing the way you're playing right now. I don't think it should be a question my my question to use you talk about these championships. You talk about competing for trophies. You're now in the Kaku Champions League with an opportunity to face off against league I guess. How important is it for you to show yourself to show your level versus those teams? I think it's important because US show how good I am here but always good to open your buyer. Say Okay I come play against this team too and and I do. I can do as well like I do in the League. So he's that good challenge for for me for us and we know we'll be really difficult difficult because they Mexican league have are really good level challenge for us we will be prepare for for that kind of games on. I hope we can do a great job. I for us and then to show. How would you select what we picked out three goals last year Carlos we we wanted rank them which which ones you think out of the three were the best? We're going to show the be here. We go this one was a left-foot recordbreaker. No Yeah yes it is. Hey Do you research your research. Was it against your recycling Arado force. Aw that's nice little overhead. This are knife those are nice. Where's the San Jose? Well that's the one I Hey I'll sit out unless I stopped running. He's and he's got this. How about the defendant coming in thinking? He's going to make this feel it was it was at the San Jose where you that. There's the for the second is the second and they will fire it was an od. I I gotTa tell you. But you're a bad boy and naughty boy. 'cause you waited for the defendant for San. Juan tried to go in with the all of us. He's a risky. A how much tell you. What's risky wearing those risky? There's a shot of the pants. John we are out of commerce. Thanks very much for being with us. You're kidding And the next. MLS TO DO. Okay thanks. We'll be back with more of the same from L._A.. Tomorrow up you could join us.

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Serie Awesome: Are Napoli favorites against Juventus?

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Serie Awesome: Are Napoli favorites against Juventus?

"Welcome to the study hard caused and and we finally finally setia has started and we've got all the action to review coming up next weekend we have you venter's against now. Pony and of course lots you vs as roma but before we go into these big matches and all the topics that will surround them on one to start off off with of course the match that happened only last night and that was into destroying lecce. Let's introduce the panel. We have gathered kotei. Keep dini jeanie and i'm meteorologist jacqui ever all the time but i just feel like it. Just goes right nothing wrong with that yeah i i like it gives us a sense of perpetuity. We always look at the positive that rains well even on listening to us. We're actually just stealing studio waiting for the next week. Let's go there right. We we have to start with you. It was funny because doing the show and obviously they're going to be scott's nickel in wise everybody getting sick. They're talking about the player reactions at the final whistle after four no win over lecce. Why are they so excited. You know <hes> act like you've been here before. It's only lecture newly promoted contract experience kind of you. Can i agree but i think this is look. We can come up with very reasonable. Things that are wrong with internet are likely to be wrong this this season before i don't like to signing. I'm not sure i hope lazzaro isn't some guy rex adad or or my can actually play play. I don't know to be honest <hes> if alexis sanchez comes. There's an issue there whatever else lukaku his. He's a great player but he's still lukaku. They haven't signed you know if i'm boston and new brahima visual than anyone else is required -ality sector but all that said this is a fan base that has suffered for so long they have shown up one of the top five average attendances last. I season for a team. That's frankly not particularly good in terms of where they should be and often played pretty good football sold out sense. You know you you have contact genome but this does so well is getting everybody excited it. <hes> i think entirely entitled to celebrate. I hope by the same token you know. They don't believe that they've turned into manchester city overnight but there's was convincing a win. Things worked. We saw antonio candidate eva back doc in scoring again and yeah enjoy it suppo. You should enjoy you. Don't need to go in and act like yeah. I thought i mean this obviously every manager. Maybe every manager does but conscious anyone these managers who who brings in the heart with him right conti brings a narrative of success and competitiveness thank goodness but he also is this narrative to intel right from the beginning that this is no longer the crazy i mean they actually have stopped playing ama- emma which is a carbon atom which the second best is all about how interest crazy playing games because as he said in his very first public appearance alongside steven john we're not crazy into we are regularly strong team and this is the narrative that he's brought with him so there's a part of me that goes all right so regular team. Go crazy over four nil when i do think we can even though it's even let you came into the top flight with. I think a certain way but i think they tried to play a game. The welcoming city i'd be that isn't going to work for them away from from home and it seemed like <hes> i can use the word i i think the game's changed around europe through really difficult to play hyper defensive football and stay out. Maybe and i think what let your dad was that we've seen team. Stay up play more attacking football right we we we. We certainly had or come close to staying. I mean even being available when they went on their see. They went down but when they went on the run they would have had a prayer that they play that way. You know we we we saw it with. We saw we saw swallow so they're saying you know what we're the worst of the three promoted teams. We're going to go out there and away from home against one of the favorites. We're going to see if we can shock them because this isn't that we're going to go for the jugular. We're gonna go early. They created chances. That's good for confidence. I done the old one one cable style with that have been better basically saying it's a free ride right because they're facing a big team so we can talk about whether it's right now. Ten engine oil naive is when you think oh look. I'm good enough to go head to head. That's i think they're taking a calculator saying if we play this way out of five games we might win one elusive for well. Guess what that's better the drawing to losing three. I actually think you've made a very eloquent point cab which i would agree with and i will not get into into a big worm hole on the whole even on keeping score at home. It's a linguistic point. I think the linguistic point as well as well taken <hes> i think in terms of inter look <hes> you're. You're absolutely right. We still know were revenue caucus as a player. I think giving this game. There was some touch very heavy. He has not suddenly developed the titus touch he's not going to. I think what we saw in this game that he is the player that contain has wanted wanted literally to germany since two thousand fourteen i mean he was trying to get him an event. In the year where he walks out <hes> khazei he talked about him when he was the italy manager and facing him in belgium he said i know what to do with this play. He has wanted this guy and and i you know it's only lecce and we will see how he does against better teams but but he certainly has integrated into a system and understands his role within it. I thought he was bullying. Guys i mean he literally was leaving but sometimes <hes> he was the exchanges with low tarot. It's a work in progress but it was at least doing what he needed to in terms of coming for the ball and trying to have people. I think he was again. He was doing the job that oh you think concert has in mind for him and i think that it itself i mean look in a in a great extent. This is no different any fan base in the world. You give any fan base in the world and you number nine and he scores in his debut. People are going to be excited about. I think it'd be ridiculous to think otherwise <hes> i think the inter actually kind to kind of extrapolating. I'm not saying that he's going to score thirty goals this season but i think he's doing because he's you know of. Of course we're gonna see different things in different teams. <hes> and i think there's more than that to this encouraging. Of course i think when you look at all all the things that i'm not getting excited about finally hitting the shot and he's been trying to hit for the last three seasons yeah no but since midfield yeah get excited about that that that the w._g. W g styling side process which one what can every game but against lesser teams you wanna. You wanna play like this sort of went really well. You mentioned the one thing that was truly beautiful to watch the cayenne this down that nuku and and not he's the guy that made sure that sixty five thousand people showed up to the c._n._n. Where they showed up before he was there too that's that's. That's what people say. I gotta stick for inter fans you. These guys have been sticking up from the most horrible days right <hes> the most horrible players some of these players will turn out to be horrible because it is intro after all but those guys i have to say you're right about that. I think but i do think that everyone wanted to see this up up close. They wanted to see what onto neo content was going to do with him and i do think that i should the most beautiful play on that page what's n._c. <hes> i think that it works so well with rosa veg and you know so the the movement and the fact that since he thinks he's also a ford like the way that he moves to try to score that goal the double regius. I loved everything about that and i feel like when you have a good midfield like that it makes everything so much easier <hes> even though the defense had run okay and and not the three that we would imagine <hes> it was just amazing in how they adapted because it wasn't available but i don't think through caulker without greens. I thought that he was you know the first touch the problem problem there. I i do think that he looked very frustrated at times when i when he was like pointing us to way he wants to be clear that as of yet the players don't know him. I think this this is a teething problems. It's really funny that you should mention that because when i watch the game i didn't notice that but afterwards they made a point on sky italia oh yeah to actually compare and contrast lukaku with say christiane and they were pointing out and they were saying the exact opposite of that in the sense that when he didn't and get the ball he was encouraging. He wasn't wanted the ball. He's attitude was what what really was really because i'm i notice go. I wasn't looking at it and i think also when you look at the fact that he chose to to celebrate with was esposito. Which was the the youth team player. I think sup- beautiful in his sense of i'm the into man and i'm going to do everything i can to make the necessary but i do think this part of him. That was just it wasn't that his attitude was always agitated was terrific ethic. I think it was just a certain points of the game. He felt a little bit frustrated when he wasn't getting to show you what he can do what he hasn't his full repertoire of skills and i feel like it's gonna need time for him to understand his teammates but you know they are walk in progress so i think we need to move on from this game and a second question kante before he joined ma'am someone asks. Do you think you can win the week and he said look. I wouldn't take in this job. I didn't think there was at least a one percent chance. If i were to put you on the spot right now say put a percentage chance on inter being able to the season and what have you got each central owns eighty percent chance here but i know he believe in the supernatural tro powers. I think there's still a lot of limits translate into soap and i'm going to say ten percent gonna sneak in reference reason. Bring them up as this is. A guy who lost season under mr kurtz was his never played. His confidence was shattered. He was treated like absolute rubbish and this year here. At least he was regenerated. He was happy showed we could do condemn it done so well with italy wisconsin and this is the other added bonus counter brings you know he can regenerate victor moses another example another guy that you know he can do that but you did hint questions season how much of this is i'm tony kahn say and how much of it is not new channels poletti but apparently anything that has a great chance of winning count but it seems to have been bothered taken with you vent assist performance against paramount of because to take on now this weekend and i think it's the game that most people are excited about <hes> if you're not excited about the obviously the job but <hes> you you watch this and you you think when it's so clear that in to have a master you know this is antonio conte's into you looked you looked at you and you're like <hes>. I'm sorry oh you are we would saudi or is this delaney because there's nothing about you've inches performance against farmer that made you think this saudi houses imprint on the site. It was very very much pragmatic team that was based on individuals trying to win the battle and it shows by the fact that teams <hes> revolved around guises last year's in the marriage is not there because he's tucked up in bed with pneumonia severity reasonable choice. It's like the hippocratic oath right above all juno harmed michael shiloh. Daddy said you know what we're paying way too. We know how to beat them based on how we've been doing it for the last eight years. Let's go and play all the same people from last year and we'll get to that and why that might have been an issue <hes> and let's just go get three points in the bag focus on and look ahead to napoli focus inside of getting better and and figure out who we we wanna be focused what we do with their strikers with transfer window closing. I i don't have a problem with without approach <hes> yeah when i was watching the office aim. I thought maybe there was a little bit of a a change in the way they paid slightly more direct but i think it was. Certainly you know slim pickings in that regard. I'll be the players and we've already got the i in my opinion slightly manufactured controversy of the season with <hes> delete saying afterwards he was surprised you didn't play they'll also say immediately after saying that well you know but tokuda earned my place like he doesn't sound like someone who's instantly. You wouldn't send that and so. I think it's i don't know i think he's a teenager. I think he was also. It's a question and he said yeah. I was surprised. I don't think that's necessarily you saying i expect ankle worship is too. I said why i thought we were crazy to be surprised and i wasn't surprised at all that he didn't play. Are you guys surprised on so quickly. Remind people about why. It's not surprising resonating play because these guys are at harvard teaching defense according to jesse de professors. Are you remind people they're names leonardo. Maybe people should be washing out their mouths which you style before they go in his name in the same context as delib who spent three years the dutch leagues against against alkmaar and go ahead eagles and stuff like that hanging or or even last night he played with van dyke for the national team. My excuse me lauren played with van dyke for many years. Maybe he should be starting for you but i thought that was great. Actually comment because clinton was also about whether or not what he thought about the fact that he didn't start and he said listen in the for the for the dodge the netherlands we just need to play whose physical when when when it comes to defense but it hands care about positioning and it's going to take time for delays to understand everything that's going on saturdays not available. You're not going to be thrown in the deep engine. Nobody was here. I mean this is the thing that people forget about saturday and all the talk about attacking football when saudi i got to napoli his specialists and the thing that he was talented for was being a great defensive coach in fact there was the whole ridiculous conversation they went on and on about fact look uses drones in training to position. I mean it was a fun. No the beginning but it's sort of got one of these things always due mythologised. He joins in training to be able to show these defenders from above exactly where they were announced. I hope that he's doing some of that. Good work when he's there select but again. Sorry isn't there right now. He was apparently in contact by telephone sort of all through the week. We don't know if he's because originally events that he won't be this game against his former club and there's been some noise that he might the <hes>. Make it onto the bench this game but it's no shock that did it doesn't play. I think <hes> i don't imagine playing against napoli. Soy resist allegedly could be other badge. There's like i'm thinking after go up. 'cause <hes> chelsea for year taste like are you sure there would be a good thing so why he just he doesn't train them shows up on the bench for what for his very imaginative substitutions at except descend on kovic virginia i t t to bring up one one thing up to sunny surprise me and not ever surprised by it. But what did you guys think of and do you think we will see again this weekend against former club hick wayne being okay so according to what was reported <hes> to battle was was upset at not having been chosen <hes> it was also a question that was australasia know why they decided to go for him and ninety dollars as far as <hes> false number nine nine and he said it's a game that i didn't want to start out with you know playing new tactics late. Let's just stick to the fact that we have strikeouts striker. Everyone in their roles jam-packed impaneled hope you take note but i do think coke diet but i think that what upsets set to me about all this is. I'm sorry i don't mean to sound like a hater and all of this but how dare you be upset at not. Being you know i'm i'm so sorry but the owner we need names. That should be on that sheet. I should georgia canadian run out and and everyone else injured but you cannot be upset and not being part of a front line that costs so much money you look at the bench snapshot four hundred million they were counting was just sitting on the bench at the end of the day and you g- wayne we left juventus as m._v._p. That year as voted for by the fans so the fact that debate was upset that he wasn't the guy that was paid. Maybe is just professional pride in which case walled onto him but if this is going to be as attitude and it's not like okay. Let me just prove myself even more than we have a problem until the transfer window closes on on september second right so right now realistically. There's some kind of divine intervention. There are four people who could be lining up at centre forward <hes> for you vendors for most of the season like to get from both of you who who you think it will be in who you think it should be. Those four people are obviously polity bala going out economy. It's going to be one of those. Four who fly i don't i mean obviously but still within the realm of possibility that somehow rocks up right and we'll we'll get to him actually did mention when you enter talk but for those who don't know they're still banging the drum because accounting-wise oni wise and economy develops what would make what would be brilliant for everybody but his agent wanda not new season means new season of funding our tickets focused. It'd be honest which is a show on t._v. I i watched the whole show. I taped it. Watch the lane tonight and i don't like the optics of it because it is a bunch of lads like via the cassano couple other sort of know it all colleagues of mine who sit there and be like everybody hates hates model lay. He's an idiot for not going. It's just going to sit and play and you know she says. I don't know what's going to happen. I know that he doesn't want to go anywhere. <hes> i've been in touch with other with other clubs. Pay doesn't want to go and he says and it wasn't gonna go if he's not wanted. You know i mean it was it it's seriously if it's kind of like a little bit bullying right it totally is and she's just like sitting there and taking it and then she said well. Maybe there's people at the club want him to stay and then sort of the word. I was weird because the camera wasn't honor but you heard like maybe the president <hes>. I don't know what's going on but like i said which ford is worth murata has again. Come out and said the president has not supported officially very consistent but like like we're we're used to we. It's going to be weird if you have if he stays. It's gonna be weird if he goes you. Say the i it can be weird and wonderful so those four who will start most so the season at centre forward and who should start. I'll start with you because somehow i imagine you've put more thought into your center forward as because this planning i and barack kitchen netherlands stuff seasons started already knows at centre forward to really understand how he can do walks with elder so if someone can teach it to me. I've looks looks at this. I've tried to study this. I've listened to all the people speak about this and it still doesn't make any sense to me but i hope it's not him. I hope there's no deal. I'm not a fan ebola but i'd rather him. Stay every day of the week <hes> i i think it should be going to think i think he'll be between him and aetna and even though mine kitchens don't say much i think is time is sadly i. I sort of agree <hes> like i think i think he guanosine <hes> for all of its problems and that's not cost over. 'cause nobody's mentioned it. He's had a really bad season season. He's not coming out like something. Encouraging behan actually has plagued with renaldo before maturity actually does get a little bit system. I know i'm i'd say i'm not saying it's perfect but this is but i don't think this is the point which already on you're really getting at none of these <hes> feel like good options debacle. What does we know that dibella playing. That role has nobody they tried. It must season it didn't work. Munzu cash did work in that system and i can see what you go back to but he's a year older. He's a slow he's not. He's not not gonna get better from this point. <hes> economy. I mean i would love to see it. I would love to see it because neutral and i get to enjoy the madness of it but doing cady a penalty book striker notorious for how few times he touches the ball in the game is a foil to renounce who needs some work for now and hick wayne elsey seat for whatever else he is actually pretty self esteem. Actually he's last night shift team than people realize is is the best option but he may not be viable. <hes> the reason why i think he's a viable option sorry just to note is because he sort of rinaldo almost works for him. In many ways yeah i saw renaldo played with man's last year. It was them to <hes>. I know saudi <hes> but i'll just say this winter clothes fabio pavel you guys get get the benefit now since then until that point as of right now it looks oh i'm going to withhold judgment but at the window closes and given the they've got this still this massive uncertainty front given that they still have three or four guys they have to sell to balance the books for simply to get down to a reasonable number the squadron and million going into the season <hes>. Maybe they have something up their sleeve right. Let's give them the benefit but then after september second. All bets are off. They don't sort the south. I think the sledgehammer has to come down because this is not good. This is unacceptable and only people's enjoying this as author. I mean okay so we know that you don't have long to really resolve that problems but i think that perhaps the most entertaining game over the weekend was indeed <hes> fiorentina napoli <hes> which was a thrilling game in which they were constant goals and a little bit of controversy in seniors beautiful show proving me wrong and the fact that they don't need a striker stryker if he plays like this old people may not know because he is a youth product serbian dude. He's nineteen years old. I don't think he scored low season <hes> but the guys on monster he's <hes>. I don't know you look at it and obviously people are reluctant to trust you. I think the attitude as well between rich and you know bought tang can be his mentor which is kind of scary and unpleasant but he's definitely one to watch <hes> montella believed enough to start him over burr tang <hes> and to give him the johns and i think that he excelled and then voting came on and then was fantastic so i always thought oh my god. Why are you bringing him on. You know you don't need to and i just thought this game could get and more entertaining and with enough. I didn't think that blew a very good. I didn't think they were exception. I think concealed carry them on his show. Carry them on his shoulders. I think that he was exceptional. Along every away involved in all of that four goals <hes> and it was the first time since february twenty eight hundred i think all three from honduras mertens to obviously the insignia actually scoring a goal but fiorentina for well. They're attacking beauty still need to address a few problems as well napoli going to you i. I don't know what to think because both sides are still not really well. We we have lozano coming in so. I wonder whether he's going to start against you then. Just i don't know what to expect from these. I actually played very well <hes> i don't you know there's there's obviously the first game of the season but you feel like this still little things that they need to re and chopped. Here's years head start bringing yeah very good players over you need to be this was burst game but <hes> the formation strong that they started off with much more balanced when they changed. I thought kulu valley and manolis terrible. I thought cudi bali especially was terrible. Oh i think that's so much chemistry problems at the bank. I think going forward. They were good but from the back i i it was just a general enthusiasm fuelling teen with with a whole the crowd i didn't come up to the minute on the pitch me and i'm talking about the presentation forty hours always the whole city is above with a buzz with comedian stuff and i think that impact the players early on early gave them it gave them. A lift hit them hard napoli back into the game. They have more quality. I mean it's definitely worth saying that napoli have landed and particularly tough start the season and going in style season is about as tough as you can ask for and as you say i'm crazy atmosphere in florence i mean who's showed up and signed robbery doing lap of on kickoff getting interest. It feels guaranteeing offense. I'm sorry and i hope i'm wrong about this. This does feel to the little bit like a situation that is so hyped right now. It can only end badly. I hope i'm wrong and i think that in terms the prize i see i. I agree that not play. We defended badly for large parts of the game you know i didn't think he was included. I fought that consistently what was happening was <hes> fiorentina <hes> and you know decide for yourself if you want to give this as credit fiorentina or knocking on chelsea but they were consistently doing the same thing which was flooding myspace between the midfield and and the defense for napoli i thought that they were basically overloading with only but they'll stay in where he was in central midfield both guys either side of him stepping up and then you had cares coming in from the middle of the wing as well as the middle which when you have three guys that have effectively appointing centrally between the midfield defence and it was just totally overloading napoli that they didn't have to deal with that but i think it was zanny also think that i mean they did that with tremendous intensity for forty five minutes from our but it was no way that they were going to hold that up you know what intensity flags than the team that's more skillful and better coached and to win. The case started seven players twenty two hundred in this game. It's morning team but on on that you talk about it like the fading and everything we only in my opinion and very bad coal on what should have been penalty from that game finishing shouldn't it shouldn't have been in and also by the way because we have mentioned they get justin astonishing dive in okay big big decisions just rattle through them quickly. The first one was so zielinski those alinsky handball aw which under the new rules argument is you shielding a player. You may not like the new all. I thought it was correctly. Apply all right. The americans dive we all agree was an obvious dive. I think what's the concern. Was that the referees. I think the referee should have seen it in real time but then the v._r. And the lady is a pretty experience v._c._r.'s well he didn't notice it either. <hes> i think both author and be suspended which of course matins apparently cannot be because if you ought did look at it so because they looked at matins cannot get a retrospective punishment it should it needs to be needs to be worked on. I think as well because it's not an issue of re refereeing here. It's just an issue of of common sense but obviously that was a big one one. This is how i do. We referee as you think inside. The box starts outside but it carries on inside. Yeah see i would argue oh you that i think what what did it and the way it was explained to me is that the shoving starts outside but it's mutual shoving what brings him down own is. If you see you can see the knee connects <hes> i think it was cy connects with the back of his leg but that's what brings them now nets that happens outside side the box. I agree with that <hes> but again i. I don't think that's how it looked to me. That was explanation. I'm okay with it. You know you're not going to go in a nail everything but it's an important point because the would review it if it was inside the box and the reason that was given for not being viewed is because it was outside the more worrying is also important to point out why on to it <hes> but all in all if you are basing it on what happened with the fact that refereeing decisions for me. I don't necessarily walk out and say yes. It's based on the fact that the better coached and of more talented amateur team. I think that for me fiorentina were worthy of a point in that much and so this is why i still think now pretty are in very good team. Don't get me wrong a nice little thing. They could do one for against event is. I feel like they're going to manage. This is what we're looking at. Okay this weekend. Do you think they'll win well. The reason is because right now. If i do even just can win it based on individual battles because they're sort of just going by that right now. They're just like we had better plans so let's see what we can do but there isn't a system. I think that you know there was a lot of talk about the fact that you can already see saudis imprint because the center of gravity with now fifty six percents rather than fifty one and they had the ball sixty two percent but we also have to remember. It's paramount. Padma dot want the ball. They want to counterattack the jamia so for me. This is a clear yeah. I mean i would say possibly a draw or victory for napoli. I don't see event winning this but i also think that this will be interesting because we might introduce new tenant. I don't if you will but i think now introduced lozano that make a difference learn about this game specifically but i think what will lozano gives you still still very raw and he comes with a different brand of football in holland but what he does is. He's the guy who breaks the lines. I mean i think he can go one on one and take off in a way that doesn't do in the way that sena can beat a man but he's just not very quick so he can't get away from him. You know those can just sliced through defenses and i think that's why he's there because he's different from from the other three <hes> i. I think you're gonna see a continuing tim. You saw the last season re. I think five strikers for three positions and in fact we might take some four four two as well <hes> and in depending on the opponent you know we might see lozano we might see milk or we might see the the smurfs right yeah and i think <hes> which fits into by the way would you buy. I you know this is actually i think has tried to play for the actually really quite an attacking brand of football. I think that's comes. I'm su- what went wrong in steering tea and a little bit when wrong and i don't know i'm actually a little bit less confident on that and i was coming coming into this season but i think they're gonna be really fun to watch if this is the evidence and massana that makes only heightens it. I think he's yeah he's a he's a breaker and he's a greater or as well yeah. It's interesting because all the talk of progressive football. I feel like we have to move onto roma and last year <hes> laczi obviously host rover and dhabi next weekend which is super exciting. I think to obviously thrash something as we know and in came out and said well. Why did you feel like anyone recognizes. Elsewhere not talked about even though it consistently amazing and we have and i have to agree with him his midfield while the good when you look about talent there and you compare it to. I think it's better but <hes> midfield talent was more talented than there's always more talented but i think service better. I think it is better. Actually although you take s._m._s. i wouldn't i just i don't wait field the security guard weeks. You don't know ause. I say something he was never worth one hundred million that is a stupid number that latino pulled out of thin air and so instead and the fact that nobody hey. I don't know that they've ever offered anything to be honest. I think actually when it comes to milinkevich salvage. There's a major issue with agents and mandates and stuff like that listen. He has an unusual skill okay. He's very difficult to cover because he's so big and strong but he's got the skills of the little man. He's also not particularly quick. You know you build your team around. Him can be very effective. I think saturday team. I don't think it's savage fits at all and certainly not saudi but i i'm looking at. I didn't i'm not comparing whether or not you fight boy him but i look at it at midfield. Am i think of the balance that they have not midfield from luisa a to just just even like could as millions of savage like how they work with me all of them together and i think there's such great balance there. There's such great movement around bounty mobile in two different things he basically i i would take the midfielder's event is held on their bench ahead of lots of starting midfield. That's how strong event smithfield is. God would would take maybe right now is simone. Inzaghi has a system that works simone inzaghi unlike <hes> event like he has a system that we can sorry this <hes> this weekend just call lots had easily the most emphatic win of the weekend one three now against the team who are not you know not not nothing. I know they've lost their manager. Things have changed a whole new. You know inside your head. We do this every season and <hes> you know two years ago. They missed out on the champion on the last day. In sort of chaotic circumstances last season they win. The cup like this will be a good team again it. We'll be a good team because it's exactly the same as it was before now. It's suddenly looks like that. Korea immobile the partnership up front. Something's getting psyched about that will just fall apart point like it was going to win the league but they're going to be. They're going to be rather than again. They're going to be ready for the company rather than i think in the top four. He's gonna win. The top floor is given even the teen. It's very settled guys been there for yongsan people know their jobs same eleven as last year except for lives any nation <hes> versus team that you know they've added seca <hes> he's got his own way of playing throughout preseason introducing new india's and stuff but they're obviously down a defender you might say two defenders based on what you saw against genoa even then with home renovation of that department going even then with the strikers and stuff you know i think it's gonna take time to to take on board what he wants to do because he's attacking the way different channels attacking but he just does things differently so macho trip them up and win the darby. Is that what we're going to judge lots here because for me. They were paying a site that lost two big talents. I think <hes> in in anderson and dennis branch so i'm doing they're trying to move from electoral game to vertical game now on the defensive. They don't really have the understanding astounding yet off that so do that that was easy for that to as roma they're playing against a generous i it hasn't been that saudi who has a point to prove because he was obviously in charge of that kobe tiny yeah match loss against in not too before. Why are you smiling because you've named too big and it's strangely didn't mention medical giampaolo the manager being aw i like seem like i'm waiting but i do think there's a huge change already so it makes it that much easier philosopher who are all consistent to win that now what i what was amazing about romo was they're attacking was just sensational to watch and you saw for philosopher. We've seen saudi coming eh giampaolo coming in and he's he's got the clearest strategies i think he's made good use of his please into drove him on their attacking moves and you can see it flowing knowing and fluid and junkies was brilliant and jack o'brien and and then you go down a little bit and you look at that defense anything. It's such to to wow they need. I mean even mancini coming in. It's not they need a world class center bank and otherwise they're going to have problems with how many goals conceding unless they can keep outscoring opponents like we we talked about last week with <hes> front secret schachter and this sort of very vertical very high press and then to a certain extent schachter we we named it like relying on these sort of individual towns doing things the thing that exciting most and it was a really exciting game like like so much fun to watch the thing most i think was in this show is this the beginning of of when he first came into season and then he went quiet a little bit and under someone the the second fort for you thinking of sending him in the summer and he was like no. I like this guy an indicative second goal right after his first one might have changed the game on up front. I think romo are going to be a sales but this whole system all of this. I press it requires you to have at centre-back particularly speed and aggression rationed like you have to have two guys who can cover the ground and who are willing to get into those challenges otherwise you just have these huge gaps. I mean fuzzy on us. He's because can you imagine it wasn't ghani thing i've ever noticed defending defender down unfought says you are but obviously the system's not geared towards him <hes>. I don't think blocks aggression either. Necessarily georgia's uses just a very limited player you you don't like it. That's up by cost. I wonder if the up their sleeve because you look at it they have a whole bunch of fullbacks now having at its upper cost as well i'm wondering and if he's thinking of back three or maybe moving somebody into central defence. Doing you know like it's not in stone right. You need to have a centreback who six foot four and if you have a p._c. Wiedeman can get him if he was going to keep the ball up the pitching press high. Maybe you're better off with a smaller player back there but awesome yeah centreback but i'm saying is just somebody you know why is was back a conversation i had with owen hargreaves to named years years ago when he played centre back for a while right and he's but five or ten and he said you know what and he says he can dunk a basketball even though i don't think his hands are very big not as well <hes> by what you need larger hands to be able to dunk a basketball ascot ball. It's just the way you stopped. The whole basic point is if you're going to be a team. That has the ball all the time. Why do you need to call center back. You know if you're gonna be you're doing. You're defending in the open field. You're better off having a smaller more agile guy. Hi and i'm wondering if one doesn't have some sort of idea like that obviously then on set-pieces. Bring your bigger players back to whatever you do right by getting on the market. Nineteen attention is the one that keeps talking about and i just thought it was a number one <hes> but yeah i don't think auburn at this stage on this liverpool offer a big discount. It's going to happen or he takes less money <hes> but but yeah you could see this plenty out with blocks making it on the counter right now. That doesn't mean the topic dhabi go every coast but i think as of today. That's your better. I think they're also you know they're a team matt has made. It's it's a living right but does that even matter they. I'll bet you they played but does it matter. When it comes to job <music> cliche ninety minutes all right meaning has your own view. Amina has their own view on <hes> on giampaolo. I had to say i. I like creative thinkers. I'm sorry this is like the one that i've been waiting for this whole point. Which is i do mind about being a philosopher but there's one thing about playing thing somebody like you knew he lost look expedia which is what he wanted to do when it came to the director all but to pay china no clue and put him next to pocket and put him next to botany dini and have su- so as to who again the flashes of bringing came when he was moving to the left hand side and then you stick piontek at the top way he's had eighteen touches of the ball and i'm not saying that hasn't had a poor preseason and he does look a little bit off the pace and we know that he feels strains injury a little bit more but my issue is not the philosophy. My issue is is the fact that it's just basic tactics of why social for example there's so much much better than jersey marini when he came in just because he did the logical things that you would do. I'm not saying that that's what you're supposed to do. But it's the first game of the season. Maybe put things aside site. If you don't want to decide to play any of the new imports from benazir to whoever it is to you know even with the first introduction that he did make part of the old guard if you don't want introduce anyone knew then at least let them play something they already understand which is perhaps the guitar players placed in there right formation in and their right positions and knowing what they do but there was such clear confusion so for me i can i ask. How is this guy being looked upon this philosophy because this isn't thinking outside the box is almost coming out and trying to singlehandedly light news at this point against a pragmatist who you know is very good at trying and create a defense and at the end of all of this. I think that i felt sorry for him because i think he realizes mistakes in the press conference today and he came out afterwards and said maybe in what i need to do is play. My my is in the right role but i don't know if that's something he'll do because we've just wasted two months in preseason on what exactly because now he he wants to revert to a four three three formation so what have we done now. What a wedgie mean. Go from my rents have the problem. It's obviously not the problem. It's it's the people in the formation of the one game and and his surprised by the fact that these were square pegs halts but i don't hey i mean you can say what he likes or did. You change the formation. The personnel was all screwed up as as amina told tolson and it's weird because you know kassian minnesota and <hes> the other kid they got from me. All these guys were on their on the bench right so you didn't have to go down down down this road. <hes> what i will say is you can use. The word philosophers on philosophy thing is quite smash pushing the whether you want to try to play football tactics is to talk about what gives you the edge whether it's defensively or or tactic wise. This guy bill his reputation based on this. He's had a tremendous amount of highs and lows the fact that he's about as charismatic as that balled up piece of tissue that sitting there next to you. I think certainly doesn't help them. <hes> i have no idea why he made those choices there obviously the wrong long choices but i know easy to see it report to see how he reacts and what sort of support he gets. Some people buy them in the sense that weirdly the people above them hired him. Bob medina are two of the most charismatic people in the history of people and i wondered was he their choice. What prompted them to believe in him. The theory on that actually interesting me is that they wanted somebody who had helped health raise the venue now. I don't know if this is true. So i'm gonna ask you know but i'm i'm asking you whether you so you think that they just bought manco dempo because they thought that the he would be able to extract the virtues of the squad make them pay so attractive that they could then be he picked off by all the teams and that's how they make their money very vicious way of looking at it would they would they said was we have major major financial for players so we're gonna go for for value. Signings and people can get better you know for years eland but <hes> but the choice wasn't giampaolo because doing that the choice was the philosophy of the club was. We've got this issue so we're going to be smart about how we operate about it. We're we're gonna buy low and sell high rather than what other clubs do and by high and stop with a bunch of veterans which is too many times clubs have done for so long so so then the question becomes was jump out of the right person to go and do that. I honestly don't know what he is. Somebody that insiders seem to love <hes> but when you go and see when you go and see the stuff on on sunday and saturday. You're like you know what i mean new to anyone said this yet. They didn't didn't have a shot on goal against notice by the way when you when striker and its context. He doesn't get service then. That's going to happen the s._e._a. But that's that's another thing onto stands jampacked tactics we didn't i don't know <hes> obviously they need to get ed better quickly. I don't mind signings. I i'm made uneasy by this. Korea undersold the thing because you know it's what are those look under the carpet situation. You see who staring back at you the same person who said yeah sure here. I'll find a buyer for croatia. You have more money to go and buy another one of our clients and we can all play musical chairs again that there's no reason to get night. I know that we've i've gone on this friend and obviously we've been a little bit downhearted on them. I you know you think that jam panel who did do a very good job was done. Do something interesting going forward. Maybe he just needs a little more time than he has been given but kennedy said the same off saturday. So why do we expect expect more of milan. What about the of interesting storylines that happened from louis marie l. and atalanta scoring the breeze. I'm sure that <hes> so you know i i <hes> i said it i think last week and i think he's a good addition to to the two because it gives them something different. He's at at the c. Kinda he's there. He's an extra structure. Their tremendous three distorted been tremendous amount of gold you figure why do they need lewis mariel and as you pointed out it here's a something different there are two nil down spot and his break glass in case of emergency and he pops out to i think it was to wash yeah and he <hes> both really good strikes which he definitely has in his arsenal seen this with with niro before he the permanent always been <hes> fame suddenly and as long as i've been following his career in europe is that he seems to come very hot and cold and very often already. Certainly this is tina started but comes out of the gate really hard and then she started. He's going to be perfect for that because he's got the pace of stretch the game and he's got that ability to make things happen. Actually both these goals were less about his pace and marched very distracting which strikes me when he needs to and i think he <hes> i think he has a definite role that the the you know the story that everyone is pushing in the moment and i will judgment on is that gasperini has got him because the knock on him has been the heat carry too much weight around the story at the moment is that he's you know in the best shape he's been in a long time and so it's going to be even more able to contribute we'll see on that but actually it's rather than than they won this game 'cause gasperini knock on him as a manager is his teams often started slowly and i was thinking i actually tip into this game because i thought exactly that and rapid tiny at the two in the immutable or if the x. daily showed up and put them in a hole but <hes> but toronto go out so that it's a good result mural and played great <hes> yeah. Why don't you really impress foul. I thought i was worried about sour and percents off season as well so you know it's a they're. They're you know they're definitely <hes> <hes> simply cheese one of the managers who i think we're gonna be talking about in the next few years for show the pitchy. What about bologna versus hilarious right now. I think that whole game was overshadowed. Obviously those who don't know the story she's which struck down with <hes> ordnance that he had leukemia on july thirteenth <hes> he's been undergoing pretty severe <hes> treatment <hes> and he's been in hospital and and <hes> a balloon. You're playing away and then a couple of hours before kick. Offline players are getting their tactical instructions. Komo tell the door opens and and he's there <hes> the doctors initially were were against it. He insisted he shows up. Nobody nobody knew it was coming and he gives <hes> because the team talk and then goes in was at the game was on his feet from virtually all the second half. I've <hes> he looks looks different. He looks like a person who's been through a lot of serious treatment. I mean he's he's got what about half the size. He was wearing his hair so it was really a baseball cap <hes> giant plaster on his neck but it was incredibly incredibly incredibly moving <hes> and obviously you know shoe store in italy and everybody kind of rally rallying around him but you know he's a warrior. Yeah i mean is <hes> it's it is remarkable. <hes> his commitment to this you know he was very open with his announcement about leukemia and he's been hospital for more than a month <hes> during which time he has continued coach the team as best he can he's been on video linkup the whole time <hes> he clearly because he made reference to had made a promise to his players that he was going to be there for this first game he was. I think there's a significant chance he won't be present for the next game still because he is still undergoing treatment. He went back to hospital afterwards <hes> and you know it's. It's important for us to remember that in all this you there's a human being going through something and and it's <hes> you know it's incredibly commend what he's doing but <hes> the most important thing is his health and and i i think we already hope that he gets through on a lighter note. Simonis iza scoring with his backside seemed not this punish around the same context. Those already got as many goals this season and then he had in his entire last campaign so they come over they come oh. I know what's going to happen between torino in wolves that should also be interesting any any <hes> any other games that you're excited about just two quick. This is something you wanted to do. The very thought robin games interesting. I was thinking it might be fun because then we can all kick ourselves off towards one knee jerk reaction to the first weekend of the season each. What is your knee jerk reaction the opening opening weekend. Let's i don't gab because i can't think quickly enough and he thought my knee jerk reaction is going to be fine and i was worried that they're gonna stick with c. See with you know all of a sudden these old guys and bought hanging rebury but you know you guys are just sit there hanging around the club inspire people boy paying lays down some rap tunes or something that's fine rebrith stalls and eat some steak. That's good. That's all you need but trust the kids and <hes> trust this guy flower veg. Actually i can trust what you just said should take into one of those things like inspire people the five minute night compensation trust <hes> my knee jerk reaction. The action is on. I think country new content good. I mean it's based on gaming. I i might have gone. I certainly like i think similarly i think much more highly events and before i think my knee jerk reactions feels but it wouldn't be compared to that. One is the napoli won't. I think napoli are gonna finished third. I think i recant this season thing that they were the greatest threat events and i think they're going to be great fun to watch but i'm not always catch more about europe the and it's still said let us know what you think or if you agree thank you so much for joining us on this podcast because we'll be back next week to review those top matches that we were telling you about and more we'll see you then.

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Serie Awesome: Ronaldo's Worst Juventus Performance?

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Serie Awesome: Ronaldo's Worst Juventus Performance?

"It's the city awesome podcast for the lineup. It has changed of course it is still me. Gab but this time around Nikki's not available because Galloway Mickey's away in Austria Playing Board Games true story and we'll we'll be sure to ask about her when she got back but I also wanted to give a shout and applaud to Vicky for her appearances on that Kuhn's. NFL podcast which I have not been invited on you so if you like the other kind of football do which I do. Yes and if you just heard that voice we do obviously have to Robson indicate plays hi. How are you pleasure to be back A to indeed be back. We're going to go through all the Champions League game and look forward to perhaps the most tantalizing fixture which is of course between interview when you vent is but let's start off with trump ziege with a look ahead to that I noticed you absolutely love under new content and I think I think maybe the game that we should stuttle is because until rather impressive against Boston and everything went according to plan for that I out of the game they were able to switch play. You get into wingback out the fill. The Front will link up with each other. They were dominating midfield. Broza victory was finding these policy range. They defended well as as a back three and they were on transitional winning the ball back. There were contracts. I can quickly so everything. Well went well sixty minutes. That's how you see a concert side plate. It's very best and that's what would you say that this is like a huge step up for them because drink how I mean I mean considering the first game that they had a case Latvia prog the performances. Yeah it was a lot better and then you know you really need to work on the first time around how much of it of this to do with the fact that you know. Barcelona I think has generally generally pretty terrible this season agree with Stewart. Were you said about the first hour I thought at the end and you see this sometimes Wisconsin teams is they get so into the game the it's so prepared so Jadavpur it they they have to play that way but then when you run into somebody who we start the second half I thought even without playing that well who just decides to keep the ball on you're chasing Zenit gets really really taxing and then on top of that when you've got you know messy and Suarez who not saying those goals is there it came out of nothing then you can pay a price. You know. It's almost like a a a a free swag. I'd said cold did not happy with the officiating me not happy at all. No of course there was that that penalty that sort of foulon sense that many thought should have been at penalty but it didn't well. I mean you don't think it was a penalty one. I can see Z. Y. It wasn't why wasn't giving by thoughts. Calming overall had a bad game coming up of course officiated the last Champions League final. He's considered very talented referee a free on absolutely sort of went after him and said like you know this guy such a big deal. He shouldn't have been intimidated by the atmosphere of the camp up now. It's it's hard to Parse. After the game you can see there was one fallen somewhat. There was one foul on I think it was. PK They on on by that the one where but I kind of his legs went up which you know you wonder if in a different context different reaction could've gone the other way maybe Scott bad day. I don't think those are the reasons why lost game. I think the reason why interlocks this game was now messy the work he did in the adding up the the second goal found little pocket of space didn't they just don't hand so. I do inside right position bit. Wider Suarez is ridiculous finishing which even when you're old you're not the player he was Let's be clear it'd be friends and I said Oh look Suarez. Turn the corner right. No I don't not is but you don't lose technique as you get older. You lose as you get. Older is your fitness but but but that's the thing into don't have right now you know what no they don't have players who who necessarily can whip out that level of quality out of the blue when they're not are playing badly when things aren't going right his there's very few places like that in the world and maybe let the League gets essentials. His is a much poorer player mentioned when he was asked though is because he lost these fitness. Suddenly he just didn't confidence to go. Paul's people couldn't make things happen and then he passes it. Robin runs with it so that's the only difference if he can get fitness but you can get confidence back and we saw a bit of that before he sends off against doll a bit of it against a boss alone. You can still be a messy fortunate okay so here's my analysis of all of this. I agree with you that obviously it was a messy. I thought messiaen simmer created a lot of opportunity. I thought bringing on Bella made sure that the Boston always looked on the attack interestingly enough. I thought it was Vida Vietnam huge difference. I thought him coming on and he is the man who who was very much became the warriors under new contract so I think it's almost poetic that he is the man who invented he needs to his second loss. Start with such as Lawson in the Champions League. I thought he made a difference. I thought he added a little bit of the county to release them going forward which matches up with enter into how fall in the sense of physical decline line and I agree with you on that and this is my issue with content sometimes that I do think that it's a bit limited the way that he plays in Europe and I had a problem with him at you've enters in comparison to what what I saw legally produced is that he always his motto was unless we WanNa two hundred kilometers per hour. We are an average team but sometimes you need that quality. Sometimes you'll pay. He is need to be able to provide the quality to manage the game a little bit better and not be so physically and mentally exhausted and really. I don't think they should be exhausted. I thought they should've I kept up for ninety minutes. You do have Antonio Pinto as your fitness manager. The man who led Ramadan two three Champions League finals one of the world's best when it comes to training players Sanchez will recover his physical ability because I think probably because of this man a lot like what Charles Simonis management is managed to do with that team so for me it is that you you know as soon as Barcelona raise the tempo with a little bit disappointing from from the shape that inspired lots of things play with a with a back three and they play wing backs wants. That's the opposition stopped to get control of the game which boss alone ahead then the wingbacks get pushed deeper and deeper now. You can't press the ball now. You have to retreat so that was the problem problem is the the wingbacks couldn't get high enough to go and put pressure on the fullbacks of Barcelona so suddenly the game he's always going to be in and then they didn't have enough numbers in in front areas because they say the to counterattack any sort of meat substitution have allowed for that or did change. That is the system the that's that's the system can be a great system when you're on top of the game. Assistance can also fail when the opposite stop switching plan. They create to ones against you wing back then that's that's the problem. I had the less likely to negative could've been two or three. I think we're here what he might say once. He's calmed down since The Post game is that that we were battering score a second goal then I make all the changes in playful or whatever and and we were certainly on our way to scoring I can go. We certainly have those opportunities. We were battering them. So what would you say it was a of of goes say so that is the best performance from into this season so far by some and also I suspect if you look at winter played thus far this season I would argue that probably the two best teams that they've played thus we're lots. Slavia Prague and they did not play well against them. They did play well so I know disrespect confines but we'll get to me in a minute but they but Barscelona I mean they they. They had the upper hand for more than an hour away from home and that's pretty huge and then looking ahead to the big you the game Sunday night dewinter come out of this lifted order. They come out of this a little bit because you mentioned the physical side. I mean especially one day's rest. They will have to deal with the with the defeat. They certainly spent a lot more energy in that game that you went to St Against Buyer Labor Kuzin. How do you how do you think this affects them? Inches of rain either the condition make Kaku back in if he recovers interesting. That's a that's a great point. I thought that they should take a lot of positives from this. If I'm them I wouldn't come into this feeding negative because I think what we all wanted to see was whether or not young feel this young midfield was going to make it in the big game and they did it was tremendous. I think against Juventus I'm going to say something controversial but maybe they're a little bit better without I'm at least okay based on what I sorry Game Sampdoria Against Sampdoria and I've been critical of Mkaku for when the not being ready for the ball to be played awesome on the concert you have to expect to the center for the booze and be played Jiffy. That's how he wants. He's central which a play. They play blind boys around the corner. The midfield players are always looking to roll into the the central and then link up from there and I haven't seen any link-up between multi and say even when police on was played in that role behind the couch. We walk out from within. It hasn't been the link up play. The expected centuries comes in some Doria with Martinez suddenly letting the ballrooms each other. One sues news the booze coming into central whipping around the corner. I'm lucky they didn't school when can drive a Mesa Ronnie's. I mean it's a tough decision. You know when against him but you know there was that was better linkup. There was better understanding and I think Sanchez will give butts off the you know haven't been sent off but uh-huh under Conti was probably the best strike at that event has had during that time and largely because which is is sort of Bat link-up guy that he understands when to sacrifice when to move how to move and I think those do you agree with me but the the the the replay the the the pump ship that was at its best was your interest in tennis. Oh Yeah for all the for all the other ones mattress for future pinkos changed changed the best combination say getting the boards and service plan often house the best combination and he's in the Antonio companies season. Yeah absolutely but I do think it is. That kind is movement that you have so now. Look going to have to play because like we just understood if he's so this is still a question mark. I mean as we as we record award this on on a Thursday. It's still pretty much in the air. Such is essential so he just won't be planning. We can be sure about that well. The obvious thing is news is you. You played out with I think that change the system saute that they would play Martinez from an as they did against tonight say they would play politics and then they play Burela alongside British. That's the way I think they would go if the caucus not often. That's an interesting one. What about venter's okay so well. I thought it was pretty joked about this. There are some things meaning I agree on. We have a very low opinion of Peter boss and for me it goes back to when he was at the Euro finals united. I you know I love it. You believe in your ideas but to make zero adjustments whatsoever. Oh ever going like lemming I mean and then he came in stained Borussia Dortmund and then There's another job but but yeah. I thought you'd be really picked them apart I I was curious about one thing and we're going to get them eventually. So why not trump ahead Ed Santa's performance was pretty heavily criticized in in Italy by some pretty highly lauded by others. I and they reached a compromise where they said inside the box. He's absolutely lethal outside of that. It's ten minutes which bit harsh perhaps this after he was his worst game. I've seen play for wall in many Bernudo in the first half. There was a two or three runs because I I've say he's a plan now than he was in his two seasons at Rome Madrid. That's why I how I've seen him. Play in the lost year an event is it looks a much fitter mushroom doing things that he did. In the early part of his rhetoric is going policy with the board. He's stepping over getting crossing advise himself that little bit of time to get shots away. Morality is coming short and spinning in behind really is running with great pace that wasn't in the case against two or three times. Johnson saw outrunning then when the bull coming to make poor decisions pretty athletic yeah he was getting frustrated. Look slightly. I would say slightly you didn't fully fit physical thing. It was a physical thing you know. What's interesting about this. Is that last week was it last week. We used to go. I was discussing the fact that ever since you vent his they lost almost that abilities he's played a team and more centered around how to make Rinaldo the best player on the pitch and I've been a little bit annoyed because I saw it comes across as Rinaldo plus ten right on this occasion while I agree with you in much of what you say in the sense that you know obviously he spurned two great chances. He doesn't want the challenge. If I didn't think Zoe was going to make the challenges himself he did look almost Lisi on occasion. I have to say I agree with you but on a different level the way that he was contributing to the team team at play to the fact that he went back into events into the bicycle kick to save them to get a shot out of the way I while I love paint that does a bicycle cake is tremendous but even even better for me if it's in the defense invokes and I thought that was great. He worked well with the grind to help under dusky school. I thought that the me on this occasion the he leased try to look for his teammates tried to play for the team as opposed to. I'm Renaldo. Give me the ball all school but this is a problem and I think you'll agree with me for Sarah because he he needs plans to link up. He wants the front suits link-up or even when renowned lefty not needs to link up with wind and it hasn't really happened. It hasn't really happened when he's played up from the Ebola but there was signs and you mentioned the Gulf Benedetti's go where Sunny Hawaiian and renowned for each other. There was a tooth. I think it was a double one su before he was actually looking for a now w went through and I'm thinking that's what I expect because he gwen came into it was happened in a pre season friendly against spurs events pine really fully he gwen came aimal halftime and suddenly renowned wine links out he wants to go and I think sorry because everyone was to no one was talking about he wayne and started. You know we should give a shout out to that because it's funny we almost like sort of someone phoned slightly been lost in trumbull right so the season ends cited comes over on any wayne kind of comes back like sort of unwanted like you know return of a of a gift and the whole narrative in the summer is strike are you. We're GONNA get blah. Blah Blah and you know. Is it going to be ourselves but but the points but at no stage was a folder. Here's your Wayne and Wayne turn down well. They say he turned move southward personally. It's one of those things that I don't know who who really wanted to lines simply because of his absurd wages but in the end they were they're stuck with each other and when he plays his way back in you know I think it's indicative that the guy left out of the Champions League is an ego lane. I think very few people in July. I thought that would have predicted at Paul show. I had to give him credit fascinated with is another thing too. This is a guy who really hasn't really ever produced in a front to he's. He's he's always played in a one up front. I mean maybe early if it was salaries preferred when he sits he's team on the last three games but the Celtics when he sits he's team it would be renowned on the left teague wine through the middle and it would be no but in the last three games. We've seen we've seen him in a to write with. We've been desi behind behind Saudis contemplating to is a solution while Douglas cost as I think we all agree that four three three calls this is the problem. Liam is nobody can do with those costs does but is different players. Some people think it's still worthwhile for three hundred. We'll get to that but again. Wayne began could be sitting there counting counting his money and so two you know planning the House he's going to build goes back Argentina and to just under two years time right but there it really is a competitive dry and I know you know we didn't see the Chelsea and see Milan or maybe we. David wasn't challenge properly. I just think it's so impressive how he's gotten back now. He's not dot COM Boston overnight but but I think it's also helped maybe even help develop because I know you're not the biggest. I got the president of the Fan Club me now. But when did you buy the highest played Christiano as an alternative. He's done at the last couple of games right you think. Do you think it's a front too with one behind and should it be conceived it. Possibly I don't like it. No I. I see what you mean when you're talking about the the playing in the two because oversee against foul this is the potential that we could see with the tech artistes are being Ramsey passenger Husani. John lengthened formation because what ends up happening is we saw is you have you have debater and then you have. Ramsey and I think that they all occupy storage spaces in midfield and it but if it's going in Rinaldo cry because the four three one to become viable. I think so because yes I do see that he runs the pitcher well. I think that he's also very well positioned for when it comes to a counterattack. He knows how to position himself very well. I'm still much more of a fan of four three three. I think that it calms the field would do if an abacus studied in a four three three but the problem sorry when he came stated the one plans the license since the guy where he wants to renounce a very rarely they managed it. Allegra managed it excellently last year because he had Zucchini Plan and whenever renowned winning field men's zookeeper played the previous season as the left side of the freemen yeah okay. I'll go out there and I'll do the job but they haven't got Menzel Kitchen. The side of the win renown goes missing missing. He makes runs to getting the bulk so he goes onto the other side of the field dropped into midfield. It's a make a really big onus on blazed sweetie. He's going to do such a big job so go on Mike Rum's from from the left hand side. He's going to link up with Alexandra but defensively he's GonNa Tuck in alongside the other two central mcfee it was when the Bulls on on events right when it gets switched to the right back which seems to cause they never now does not going to be there. He has to race out there and confront their fullback before he gets to Ford so so. It's a massive job for you. what would you do in this game. In this game I would go back to the full three three and I would probably attempt to play develop on the right wing out on the wing but affront three there is the balance develops is playing just slightly to the to the right he winds through the mid over now up to the left and he will make round cakes ice. I don't WanNa be accused of only for these people. So you talk about about balance. You just finished saying the debate is only slightly to the right you will presumably he's not tracking opposing left back and we're all sitting saying wander wanders all over the place. They're closer to those areas so that they can have balanced. They won't if sorry says right now. We're going to go on press. The press the board in front with with the Ramsey Hill burn a desk behind. Why bother should you even bother president abolished. He goes wanting and riled up front if you if you if you're struggling in the game and you need to win the back you don't do CEO. We'll let them on the back. We'll play wrong. You See Ban Ki of you that well Karol that I I think that he's just very hot weather and for me I would you prefer to have that no because I do think that good either play Deborrah instead of v Gwen Guthrie or or a play on the right hand side instead of develop Komo balance but I would still go to the three and make sure that the left hand side of the field is covered by placement. Sweden not accent who's going to have to play like Napoli. They do play almost the three and a half man. It's trying to quickly run through the teams before we move on just so people are reminded can get excited for for Sunday night. Show so obviously from down. Please stop me if you if you have any any comment or or disagree vision goal back three Regal Dean Screen Yard debris. Maybe not an order but yeah so far so straightforward wing backs I would assume I somewhat and I'm guessing because candidate. I played mid week and Dave I. I'm guessing number audio sound from home away from home to defend and he's the better too I we've known for a long time midfield the BRAS CNN but I think he has he has swapped vaccine hasn't done it doesn't look as always fasino fan no an Gilead Dany from me come from Galle Dana Dany Colin getting around the field and and I think he'd be married to draw island then obviously we've covered the front through alto auto the one with him could be could be a little for forward on the end shows knee problem column at right-back very bad right back a google play welcome to the she. I didn't have anyone in. It's just so curious was. It's very good against level. It's not gonna be him because he's on the naughty. Stop but I'm assuming backup is effectively Emma Sean at this stage. He was born in the other day. Who Else Compla- Sean Right on the ratio. He hasn't played right back in yawns. Okay just just wanted to reestablish but could not stop intellect. Yep Alexandra left-back halfback. The job did there. I'd love to see him there more often but not you know midfield because he makes John Rinaldo allows thanks. Do you believe that there were people this summer this is. This is what gets me. I'M NOT GONNA name names it clear it wasn't mean and it wasn't Stewart who were saying this summer. All you need to get too. Many guys dump dumping tweedy dumb. Ma Shine right and could you say. How do you like look at maturity after what he's contributed? He won the World Cup a year ago and all of a sudden it just some doofus who serpent plus. You need to show them out the door to make room for free audio watching the guy. I'm watching placements. We don't recognize all the good work recognize it because I think look. It's not that I'm GONNA stick out for some people here. Although I disagree with it and I do think the majority the office a lot he isn't necessarily a man who will be able to adapt when the instructions on Kia and with Saturday's game I do think that sometimes sometimes you need to he's more of a work than perhaps that Qadeer who understands how to adapt to what is required of the game and I think with me tweedy sometimes it just seems like he gets so consumed with running and providing you know the blocks and kind of confused as the rest of the people if you speak to any of the French journalists I mean jillions one of those who it just says to me that I don't necessarily think that he runs in directions on his own. He needs to be told where to be and where to go so I think that it's on in the World Cup. Some grease when kept on was planning behind same role. There has also been games in the Champions League where I think it was. I exit the tribe lime where it just seems like I answer is it. I'm starting to get my bearings about when you when you could see how overwhelmed he got it doesn't help as well because pianist gets overwhelmed song saying it's great midfield bet but there is a problem with abundance but you always sort of know that Kandara will know what to do. I'm not entirely sure that's the same of panic junior yeah and our our third spot. I personally wouldn't play Qatar. You would not play the deer wastepaper. There is a sixty five minute. Would you play dear Benson core. Yeah no no no Qatar or even if it's a sixty minutes but now I've seen what is given to the team at the moment because it can get out and do the job but sickness from May play with somebody behind which your suggest just about filling gaps. They all good enough to control switched in the confessional concede the he's the one who makes all the right wrongs. He knows exactly what went to make them in one question for you guys so whether it's at this stage we're four three and then the debate is whether it's going to be three with spooner or the. Robson method was developed out wide. I the the four three one two with rams. You possibly Benedetti. I do the question about Ramsey you remember. This is my second but he mentioned that show. Do you remember that you gave that really long interview after they signed Ramsey where he says that. I'm curious to be fair to say he didn't know that Saudi was going to be the the manager at the time when he gave that interview but he said Ramsey's ganchrow position is that of an arsenal never understood so mids island translate translate into football. Speaking is basically the inside laughter inside right right so you've got to midfield three you guys in the middle and it's one of the to do on the side great doc natural position. He's going to flourish in that position played in the very first time into the side. Mattis gone out the window even contemplating there so we none of us see. Ramsey's an alternative to Qadeer Benton Corey could be but I've seen enough of Ramsey might be now. You've interested Enough Ramsey to realize that he's not very good defensively you you have to basically. I mean I just find the staggering because you know you sign on a free transfer. What's an enormous commission salary and whatever and you still don't know what to do with. I know he's good. We'll figure it out later. I mean that seems to be kind of the attitude like if you want to play this guy in the whole you know what I did in the European champion very well the whales Yeah Whales Chevy's no I'm not I'm not dissing Wales but he's on a team where you know with one superstar because whatever he wants and he's the other guy and then everybody else works for them. You know I I don't. I'm not like in that position I I won't be. He's not normally what comes to mind when when you think number ten are not generally. This event is right. They had to play roll the lady last season at the beginning of terrible all right all right. We're digressing but I'm I'm joking the thing about Saudis. He's so unconventional that you can put Ramsey can be false tag or whatever but I find it interesting. How people view things you've got the director football who've used him so clearly as an inside last or inside right and then manager saying that you go you play further up I would imagine longer term. They're either not going to play those. We'll we'll play four three three. If Douglas I never fit for they might try better for me. Personally I would play is asking the whole in this game if you go for three to play going in and Rinaldo Upfront Jim one thing that's on the only thing that I'm thinking about is like Stephanos sentece dogs for those who weren't supreme meaning. It was kind of like a Mason Mount Right. He's the player who who leads the pressing. He's a player who also tends to occupy the director so I feel like he's going to be a long pianist for we'd be occupied the director sorry that any such. I'm sorry he's the guy who's going to price the the the main the main deep lying playmaker thank. Houston wants to try and see what it is and I'm trying to your Canada basically and so if since he is on piano then I'm starting to worry about who we'll do something that and so on that occasion it's okay. I think the good news. If you're uber though is that you may be but you also oh COMPLA- build it up deeper because you actually have to centre-halves who can pass the ball because you've got. You've got wide options. should we. We WanNa make a prediction. I think predictions are really lame. I would rather not do a prediction but all all I'm GonNa ask you is. Do you think that I do. I'm interested to know whether you're going to think you'd think he's going to make it seven hundred seven full contact what I would say. I'm interested to see the approach of Kanzi. I wonder if he's going to be frightened at the guy and surely he wouldn't that's content. Coaches is a big game the biggest game of the season so far this is good. This will tell you with a into Milan and we're going to be a good side. He might be frightening the game and he might allow vendors that Doma Um and trump play on the counter-attack that will be the whites ago if he if he plays high up the field and plays the pressing game and employs at high in like he did against boss with us and then they might sire but he's he's got to do that. From the style of the game you play so go to play heightened but he's going to focus on the issue of just this horrible in he will go the other way and then you went to swing eight eighty s maintenance. Q. Falls in Lombardy Freekick freaking no not really they were held no nil by by Jank and they they beat Brayshaw last week and only reason reading this up was Mrs. One of the things that I so strongly disagree with is the old argument about people were Moaning Ola Napoli create far too many chances but then they don't convert the argument you and I I think in there's a ton of data to back this up that you worry August mccray Bernie back expected goes on the yeah. Although the funny thing was that is actually agrees with me okay as as long as they don't use the word expected goals. You create enough chances of the really there. I know we had this idea of the great finisher but all things being to say if it's a quality chance the difference between a guero messy and you know Joe. Striker really is actually coach. That's what well you look at. How many click chances do we make to actually PROMESSI concede that if that's have I got my game plan right based on that not whether the born into the back of the neck because that's now down to the strike. Is We'll strike so they've got I mean what I think. People only deal too much of a big deal out of this couldn't be gang gang seated a million goals. This outs bird. I think they're still okay. They've got four points from two games James Day. They topped the table. The win over Liverpool got southbound coming up which is a very scary proposition. Anybody who saw that at at Anfield sorry wonderful want to catch the piling sub knowing that even do much trick. I would say more like last night. There was more that guy the Japanese guy but there football is the son was like they're playing a different sport so that'll be a test but overall. I think Napoli are in pretty good health. I think the people focused so much on the Internet and obviously not show us other champions that I think they're in a position that they're pretty comfortable. I sort of like you know. I agree with yeah. I I agree a lot with what you're saying. When it comes to championship they are in a good place yeah also because this time around they don't have P. S. G. THEY DO HAVE SALZBURG. Things bugs easy to Nikki made a wonderful She said on twitter yesterday you know they they beat. Liverpool lost year and then they couldn't win against Red Straw not ended up being the determining factor of them not progressing in the competition my issue with them again. Is this is why I wanted ecology for them. It's not because I don't. I think that they're fordline is good enough. We know that they create so many goals but I I am somebody who base basis things on the proof of like last year they had a problem in Europa. League winning came to converting their chances. They walked away with several draws. They didn't do anything against Kelly. I mean they were good against anybody. They didn't get the goals and against Brescia had had Tonelli's goal not been. Just you know slightly out of side. They were being scheduled by Netflix. This season hasn't worked out and all the games goats. What's more options you know they can bring on bring on you can play with those to which they have done in previous guys go in senior and and you know that? I would like to have been the strikers now goes awesome. He missed how many against Genk goes yeah. This is the thing that we talk about me. He does score a lot of goals the APP. My point is this. I need the guy to score in every single like I. I need a guy who makes seventy nine hundred million score every time he has news to. He didn't choose the money for that because he's not six months. You know you know why. Would you want enhance. I mean I I think I for me. It's feel pretty strongly about this as long as the chance of being created if you've got players who scored you know. I think Lozano certainly mayor obviously in senior. Thank this is the fish players who scored fifteen or more goals in a season alright so they have a bunch of people for a ton of goals in the past. They still as a team for a lot of goals I wouldn't I'm. I'm less concerned about doppler. I was GONNA ask guys about like what about the end of last season anyone concerned about the fact that they won converting many chances as long as the chances are concerned when teams don't create chances case for the title one inch. I think that these things not something to be. Oh it doesn't matter they create chances. It doesn't matter that they call. I think they gave up on the title challenge last last year. I think I was maybe more of an issue because this behind by quite a bit further how many points behind her there so we check the table take the table movie magic podcasting Kennedy they they lost out to you then too so I'm trying to think of how many it is. Actually they did end up winning against Russia. Shaw tonight's and get on call so how many points fine what inter four points four points behind you vent. Antea Jeff says seven points behind Inter. I mean no no no no it's not. I don't think I I think there are there rival for the title because I don't think you can keep this pace winning every game. I mean obviously if they do you know that's well done that contents into so I think they are but I wanted to ask about senior though because he is the one guy who's not really working in the rotation he wasn't even in the squad. What do you do with a player like that just a case that he's not somebody who likes to be rotated. East east side of the line is if that's that's waltz and she said I'm going to rotate my front plaza. I'm GONNA rose one. That doesn't seem to be rotated. Qaim out in the right hand. Side plays most games now. He's playing on the same. Insignia is planning on the left. Dot Com plays every week in seniors more apply. That's in and out. That's that's GonNa be a some of these on these day will make things things happen. When you pick out the right policy play one zoos when he's not having a good day then he he's not GonNa do any work defensively so that's why my home plays every week and insinuate doesn't but if if that's the way he wants to go he's got to accept it and then when he comes in as well as you possibly. Can you say that he's GonNa have arrest. Maybe one week in three and then on the other two weeks go play. He's very best. I mean he has to accept it but it's just a shame because his quality as one that bills with momentum so I do feel that he will suffer on Angelos. He's tactics because he does consistency but unfortunately the more he plays the better it gets when he comes in every you know that the that was the criticism of salary because he played the same same every week to rotation this much because that's kind kind of a little bit like my criticism towards Giampaolo towards Andrea Zorzi at Genoa right. Now is the rotation I do think not putting obviously strongest. They can't handle it but I do agree with you. I think milic is another one that requires a lot of consistency giampaolo rotate because he can't find the right system. We'll be take you will be getting to that man before we hit who were be once again. You know we all got excited about what they might doing. You're up first two games first game opening game really shocking. I thought they were desperate. You were really good again. Although although against no I can't really good against shocker but in the end you know you miss a penalty. You make some defensive blunders. You can see that second goal at the end because you're trying to the game. I don't have a problem with that is their race pretty much run or so in the Champions League. They're not quite good enough. Defensively you know that last year's champion Zeke finalists the one that plays in white lost their opening game was in a much tougher than this and still got to the Champions League final Uh yes. It's a lady luck hates it. Can I say something. I I think that on on this occasion shocked Allah donuts coach came out and said experience me the difference guests. Panini competed it disagreed with that but I think that that was pretty spot on it is a case of what did they say touch on then try you know and they felt that they they they had enough in the to sort of go for the winter or they will find with that. They just never looked as nervous. Sometimes Atalanta did I thought it was stupendous. Isolate Eyesore obviously it was terrible that they missed the penalty but shocked ause a what's his name Piet off bureau. Throw goalkeeper is the best when it comes. I'm saving penalties in the trump easy. Actually so and Atalanta are terrible outscoring penalties these days so that will make sense to me obviously in a church ms that was hugely the report Martin Rune gave away the the chance for you know gave away the ball rolls. He wasn't on his best to either but I do. I think there is the ability to place of well under pressure which chart manage at times Atalanta were two desperate for which left them in a little bit on balanced on occasion so let me ask you this then because he's going back to my own theory. I thought created a ton of chances so I think that's fine. Okay okay yeah from now but I thought that I right up there on the table and I'm I'm just wondering I'm just I'm just going to check this out there 'cause they're. They're third three points behind five behind that there was a possibility should they get knocked out of the other and I'm assuming if you lose next game you might as well lose not going to the bank. Don't do the Europa League saying could they get legitimately involved in title fight and maybe finished again they weren't being devoted in but they will be involved in getting into this. Because who else would that be offset. Take a look inconsistent lawsuit awesome put in some good performances Milan struggling desperately to define the right formation and find to get the best out. There plays so challenging something maybe to somebody who's been. They've been dominating talking points. I mean we're taping this on a Thursday through while we review what happened at the weekend but Sunday night was was was an incredible performance from from Tina. I saw you originally an exciting game. They play. They play lovely football. they create chances ince's frankly brief scored. A great goal keys had his moments customer really. I think I'm assuming he will get a call up at this stage. He's a star in the making flip side. I mean not good again. The Couva leaving sort of fifteen minutes from on the end and a lot of people just not understanding Giampaolo at all I want to see the play is She's curry so we'll get your view on this because I've seen tonight grew up with his time football so late and we know the GIAMPAOLO reputation. He's the Kinda guy that people inside the games and such an original thinker. He's a bit odd because when he talks he's on he makes me look normal not actually he doesn't you know he is a bit of a cold fish and whatever but you'll make unusual decisions but it tends to work and he's so smart tacticly they said and so the belief that this this is the right guy for team if a lot of younger players to develop them we nuns are not. Can you get inside his head. I mean no. You don't know one but you are football coach. What trump. What do you think like when he plays? Can you explain what he's trying to. What what is it we just context ing. WH WHY. Why does this have to play every game? What is it what makes you what makes them think that Souza's affective playing in the whole and what all these changes you said because he's not finding one it is that he needs he started off. You know some Doria had great success replying. I always dominant midfielder. It was is three midfield with trump suit but it's really a time dinosaur go to inside Ryan inside left. The problem is Ramsey correct and somebody in the whole place with somebody in the how you have to get the voter brilliant at Sampdoria and then actually actually when Susan goes in there. They're not actually getting the Bolton and he's a plan. That's not quite comfortably receiving the ball with these back to go. He likes being out in the right hand side receiving it facing the defend and you know what he's going to. He's going to run the trumpet back on threes left for plans to the front. That's where he feels comfortable. That's what he does. Best is not able to do that when he's over the inland him there. Instead of say has played that position before sherline argues that position I mean I don't think either one is meaning to write home home about frankly but that is that they actually there must be something like Susan because if he plays that for my God for punishment the complain the inside right and inside left position because he's not good enough defensively and but but that's the problem that he's also got he's playing on the on the inside left position if you're playing with a diamond and we talked about it with events the plays in those white areas there is lots of work to do. You have to get up and down the front. You've got a copy of fullback. Gum Press the positions for the play switch. You go to get out. It's it's the most against Inter didn't even see the runs Parrella from planet wide to Dombroski. Oh and then make a dog and a runner in Brazil around the cone and China Channel News off to make it easy for him right. If you're GONNA AH put crude nature catchy decided there bigly I can retire Shannon odd-looking. Go Watch from the students I mean absolutely got one option and then you can play pocket the whole what I would like to see which I don't know if it's GonNa Happen. I didn't even consider going if you so obsessed. SASS with having that guy in the whole why not go for two three one again cassie in Venezuela or whatever combination you want in there still think benefit despite it is an option play Pakistan the whole where at least he's used applying their ravitch not the biggest either hi there but whatever you can play ravitch and Susan wise what he did play Lao through the middle. That's what he did in the second or if you have this obsession with this guy needs to play even though he doesn't actually do anything you think play. Piontek you compare how wide into when they were struggling against the system after twenty minutes and put Su so out in the right and he put Lau out on the left and he played the onset out from any layoff got great concern what you should do against a team that has no idea what was doing keep changing them soon because it was working for him so and then he went back to the diamonds so at the moment is you don't work in the plaza. Don't taken taken too much notice of him the atmosphere and the body language that you can see amongst the but that's also him. That's also him look at the moment the crowd in Alabama. Oh pay for blood. This is only gonNA win one way of getting this out you think so he he played really well against just one half one half talking about this one hundred zero have some good football and then you have you seen. Torino plane smashed by bottom. I think you can play well and execute well. Regardless of what the opposition against you as if they're better than you don't beat you you can still and we saw that I thought against thirty no but it was just a complete collapse. You know idiot. Musacchio gets himself sent off of course is GonNa get you because he's frustrated much like Ben Issa who was invite the way I do not agree with everything that's been handed to benefit over the the horrendous things said about him. Can I just say something when you have those types of tactics and you have so so much space on the wings and no one's covering it and you ask abandoned said basically to do everything because China not just keeps on giving the ball away oviously you you are going to start trying to be the hero especially when Vanessa is that Kinda guy who's a leader in spite of him. I made this I made this comment earlier. When we were talking about Keogh on the plan daily twenty twelve into into euros also because sometimes he got a red card benefit didn't he just gave away penalties because this is what happens you get enough as you get frustrated and you're trying to do the job of too many mm-hmm and he has no idea how to balance now people turn around and say this is not Giampaolo fault. He has been given all the help and I agree with that at the end of the day. This is a club being won by vulture phone onto better at conducting business and handling banking issues than they are running club but what made you think that this is the right man to choose a man whose win percentage is thirty nine percent or below who's never managed more than ninth place in Setia so this isn't like a gas but he knew he was gonNA come along and change your team around and he didn't do what what Gasperini married managed Genoa or ever hit a European spot so this is one thing to consider Maldini just makes it was when he turns around and says well sack. He also lost some games. Sacchi was playing under management. That was very well equipped. We had a great Galliani at the time a a team that was already flying that could afford to take the risk of being in tacky firstly at Gianpaolo is is talking to a bunch of kids. Who would you have my manager in some. I was stuck with got to be honest. I would just start with the simple things that I cannot keep changing everything. We need a little bit there well. I don't think so we should we should specify Guzzo watch decide who's a walk and he walked because he didn't feel that they were behind him nothing to keep them not rightly in my opinion not because he's right see yeah because because if you try and go do something difficult which is established brand established style of playing that works develop younger players not just go back to your maitre older and whatever you need somebody who's going to do that because you need sorry. Maybe you need to have an identity as a coach needs at your team too so everybody can say all that suicide saying all that's Enchilada all that's something brand of football. There wasn't a brand of okay fine. I agree with you yeah. He's a pragmatist have somebody who just you know plays off the cuff. Yeah but explained to me this one thing yeah you have you. Are we talking about about Milland old. Milan who wins everything in Europe a lot tremendous or are we talking about this me non which may not make money when you're aren't trying to make money meet on a trying to trying to grow as a football club. They're not trying to make Mark Ford right now to be a team in just a second. Let me just finish this point. Just one thing if you're a team that's trying to carry your brand and I get that and you think that he's somebody who doesn't pay a progressive Stalin football. That means concern right now is to meet top four to start earning the money required. They cannot simply afford at this moment to have a manager who has a philosophy to play a brandon. ondon stylish football beanies stability. They need to just concentrate. They need to make top four or try to go as far as possible and then you can change what you like then you can be pretty then you. I don't just because he say about an identity or structure or a WII playful doesn't mean to say it's pretty it can be. It can be a great defensive. It'd be Ah Madrid. It can be a structure that you can see taking place we can. We count and you didn't see them. Look at tootle. The PLO I'm talking about was their structure to their play. So when I come inside you probably fifty percents games and from one games then next. I wasn't quite sure uh had they were going to perform because there was no structure what Jam Palo what are we to some Doria last year many many times senior home. There was a real structure to their plan. They destroyed Napoli's bleaker beginning of the season three new they destroyed. AC Milan accompaniment that might even draw racing against the Runway Obiang Take Matt scored one of these early he goes totally against the run a play and I think the the melon owners La- There's a stall of football. That's causes problems is not very good player. The doing quite well at home you can see that the opposition don't quite handle it and that's why they ask that question. They did wonderfully when they destroyed and then I came and destroyed Doria because that's what some teams can do when you when they don't know how to do that planning but perhaps when we discussed Tuesday and there wasn't a game plan. John and I guess to a reluctantly I'M GONNA have to agree because guess do you think that he had the playoffs too and by that I mean John Tech and packet kids out and he came in January. Gwen was a mess. They had how many injuries exactly so. He never had a false. How is he had to develop tation. Sign that about the two so at Milan now the jam Jam Palo's going away from some Doria. Where are they now? You manage it. The the bottom Salvio see they didn't have great players and he got the best out of Vancouver plus now when he's not there the bottom so you must have done exactly that might point is without without a team that he had to constantly change players left players came injuries came in. He's still got them with an appointment of the champion top fourth stick with him for a little bit longer. The point is both things can be true. Jim Bottle can be the wrong appointment and it could also be the right thing to do like ago. I think what they're trying to do is they're very cognitive with them. It's been kind of mean on are the most valuable brand in Italian football. Some people even more valuable than event is right. Yeah yeah absolutely do that. You're not yes you get money if you get into the Champions League and whatever and that's a big part. What do you get the whole that that they're trying to get out of. You also get money if you grow the brand commercially and if you grow your image or around the world so they look at clubs like South Burton we saw last night but there are other example Bruce Dortmund's brand is really really high whether we can debate whether it should be or not but there's a level of name recognition and everything to it despite frankly you know not having that much in terms of in terms of famous superstar they have outstanding players but obviously you most famous players probably Markle Royce you know gets who plays one game three pre Hamas so there are ways of doing that so they believe that they needed to have an identity they need to have young players that people could identify with and get behind and they went down. I think we can we can debate whether they signed the right. Hey guys whether ravage fits into it at all but there's an obvious pattern there with with with crew with CEO who's another guy wouldn't have touched with a ten foot the poll because of other issues but but this is what they're going for and the question was would would have worked with that. What do you have produced results that I can see them why they said no and why they believe Giampaolo would have although the facts I far shows I can just see. Can you not have perhaps bringing Giampaolo. Perhaps make this what you want to give him the ideology that you want but perhaps maybe a little bit of stability before you start moving onto a man who can give you that. I my own issues that when you change so many code so many different players it becomes hard to foster that especially when there aren't many veterans in the site and they don't have the Aug squad jam Paolo if you're going to look emphasis ideology and I get that he plays beautiful football. He's also a man who doesn't speak to his players and they need him right and let's move on from this jump faults. Why not if let's find minded because there was other things that are very good about him so why not stick with perhaps got choose. Who can meet nuts the new kids that you've got for a year? They've changed auto pay Kyoko Lafley hours in Watson. There's a lot of different ways but I think what you're missing is that transition to younger players when when when they when they acquired the club and they decided to invest in it rather than just stripping it all apart it was also predicated on the fact that for all the Weirdos things that the facility and the rest of the freak show before did did spend a lot on younger players right and so on and so they looked at it and they said okay so we do have a leadership in the form of I mean they felt in the summer that with Romagnoli and Biya I'm born of Intruder. They had enough veteran players. Ricardo Rodriguez also been around the block although obviously is not particularly good right now they thought that between that I kn- young players that they could get the they you can get the right blend keeping Tuesday there for another year. I don't know that it would have taken the team forward. I think what I what I could see what he was doing. He was I think the great motivator of the players and the plan with a lot of passion getting the best iced out with them in terms of their physicality working hard but I couldn't see tactical understand you know the game understanding any better and that's because was he wasn't a coach. I don't think that was was somebody with great innovative ideas. He's more of if we with solid dependable and we work hard will make up for Matt. You'll move forward. You have to have somebody. That's going to be a great tactician. He can't jump track record before three percent. Look record before the I agree with you but my point is is that you're saying these things out. They felt that they had enough veterans. They felt they had enough experience based based on. You're going to bring in a man who doesn't listen to what get tutored also manager whether or not he is a good tactician. You've already pointed out all those. We know that he isn't positives causative. He is a man who's going to provide you with a little bit stability and now you've changed the team again after his his departure so perhaps is keep him around not motivate the kids. Let them feel that they have someone to speak to you because Michael Jump Out. It's not that man and then after a year onto him because I don't think there's doing a jump house doing great things for the brand. I think that let's think about the brand that's tried to think of creating some solid subsidy and then maybe next year once we have that once we have the kids. Feeding sort of you know like Benazir is now had one year on on Milan Duarte layout have one year one in Milan then maybe then that's when you bring in a guy like Giampaolo. That's when you bring in a philosopher who can it. It was a two's decision to leave all right so you seem like a real barrel of fun right now but I think the consensus is not. Nothing's going to happen until after the national break unless they get pumped by Genoa. This weekend can whose own boss and that's all the man after whom the out was invented unless he gets so unless he somehow manages to get a masters all over them so. I don't think so happen but Meena final thoughts yeah that'd be interesting and it's just they pay a but other than that. I think that we have to give thought to Georgia screens e the size photo owner. He passed away. I think at the age of seventy six six obviously took swallow who are the fourth tier of of the League to stone great walk is a mean Onfan but obviously see also fun and they'll be a minute science for him in and says what is bending game moves. You've offen- yeah management. What about you. We're GONNA find out this weekend. Whether concepts really turned into saint team around or whether sorry struggling at the moment event is going to be a massive going on we're looking for. Let's see what happens but tune in next week to the next episode of steady awesome well well. We'll wrap up and a few hirings and firings tune in next week. See you then hello.

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