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Justin Tucker on his game winning field goal

The Adam Schefter Podcast

17:11 min | 1 year ago

Justin Tucker on his game winning field goal

"Dude your nose is bleeding. Yeah I think it might still be believing what happened. I thought I had good seats to the game that was stuck in the four hundred. That was three days ago. They were super high up up. I felt like I was summoning Everest. Look next time just go to vivid seats. Tickets are one hundred percent authentic and you can even see where your seat is before you buy. It can't believe I'm going to say this your genius. Well well you welcome I kind of am. We're on the ten minutes. Maybe we should get that Kleenex out of your nose joining us now. The Ravens two time pro bowl selection a three time first team all pro kicker Justin Tucker who made the game winning kick back on Sunday against the forty niners of forty nine with no time left on the clock which just happened to be his ninth career game winning field goal with either no. I'm left in the fourth quarter or not just in. What is it like to walk out there? Under those circumstances in those weather conditions with the wind whipping the rain falling hauling everybody county on you. What is it like to kick a kick like that at the end you know more than anything it's it's I I look at it as an opportunity? Fortuity you know. It's a blessing just to have the opportunity in the first place and then You know making the most of it just put the ball through the UPRIGHTS is obviously the goal You know so as exciting or scary or whatever it may be The only important thing is you know those one point three seconds between the snap the holding the kick and You know getting the job done all the feelings. All the emotions acknowledging that they're they're putting them away and recognizing that the only thing that matters is getting the job done You know has certainly served as well and it did This past Sunday when you you go out there any nerves oh absolutely every single kick whether it's a pat in the first quarter or Walk off game winner Yeah I'm definitely we feel nervous. I'm feeling the butterflies You know there's I mean there's a human element to this game and you know as much as we try to make ourselves seem like machines It's you know it's part of it. You're going to be emotional and excited and scared and nervous Confident all of those things but You know I I. I'm I'm very fortunate to have Morgan. Cox and Sam Cooke throwing the ball an spot in it So I can just take that out of the equation and you know not even have to think about that You know I'm sure some other guys do I mean I don't have to think twice about the snapper the whole being there I just have to think about getting my studs in the ground with my plant swinging up in through and putting the ball through the posts so You know trying to keep it as simple as possible in those moments Is certainly important. But it's one of those simple is not easy kind of things simple easy and you're doing it in the rain. Does them rain make it that much worse it. Does it make that much difference to kick around me here. We are watching from home and I would think ordinarily making a forty nine yard field goal to win the game would be challenging enough but then you introduce another element like the rain coming down. How does that factor yes? I've said for a while that are stadium. Mt Bank Stadium here in Baltimore is In my opinion the toughest place to make kicks in football Wow no I'm and I'm not saying that's like pump ourselves up or anything because we happen to play here more than anybody else but You know it just. It's a tough place to get the ball to go through the UPRIGHTS We've got you know wind. That'll swirl around in there in really unique ways that's tough to figure out This time of the year it starts getting colder and the ball just simply does not travel as far I think that's ideal gas law if I'm not mistaken and then Yeah you factor in the you know. The wind the rain the field conditions when it's raining really more than more than anything. The footing gets affected so On the forty nine yard field goal to win the game Where the ball was spotted at the thirty nine yard line on the left Hash? The footing was Certainly only less than ideal. So you know just trying to slow everything down just a little bit Be Light on my feet That's you know that those are the adjustments that we have to make To just get the ball to go through the post and is it more of a relief when you make it or more of a victory. I mean it's it's both you know it just it depends on what time of day when you ask me like as soon as the ball leaves my foot and I see that it's going through salmon ice. You know we. We all know what's going through where late in we're excited were pumped And then you know along with that pretty shortly thereafter. Yeah absolutely relieved that You know as as crazy as it sounds I get more nervous after hitting a a big kick like that then when I'm lining it up in in the first place because I think about you know Man What if that didn't what if what if that didn't go our way and we've you know I say I like like we make kicks in every once in a while I happen to miss one And I've been on the opposite end of where we were. You know where where we currently are like this past. I saw this week. I've been on the opposite on the opposite side of that and it totally sucks but You know just like the you know the the same approach will. It'll be taken this week after a big kick that I you know would take after missing one here there or You know making several in a game. It's you know it's always you know taking it one kick at a time. My you know my agent rob row. She told me that coming out of college. He said listen man the the best way. You're going to give yourself a chance to make a team MRS by taking it one kick at a time and You know that's that's certainly served us well. These past seven plus years. I remember that. Look on your face when you miss your first extra point and I'm not trying to bring a bad memory or anything justin but the look of shock on your face was incredible. You remember that. Yeah thanks for bringing that up. Yeah I mean that that particular kick and It's it's one of those I I still. I still try to figure that out. I think about it every single day. Eh Still you know as much as I try as much as I try not to. I think about that every single day and I also think about You know in a in a in a football context. I think about all the things that we have done well over the years and you know when you add it all up You know things. Things look pretty good for the Ravens Wolf Pack and They will continue continue to do so. Yeah two two extra points altogether. I mean that's that's pretty good. Just one hundred seventy five one hundred and seventy seven. I mean that's that's pretty good. Yeah you know it's not a hundred You remember the two Mrs More Than One hundred and seventy five weeks. I mean I think if you ask any I think if you ask any kicker that's played long enough you know you ask the you know the Adam Vinatieri's and the Stephen Gostkowski and you know the guys that have Played at a high level for a long time You know a lot of us are kind of driven by You know that Somewhat cynical side of you know that somewhat cynical perspective of you know you wanNA prove yourself more than anything you can do that. You know you can make kicks and you know those. It was Those ones that happen to get away from you know they they have a way of just sticking with you for whatever reason I the exact same time you know. Ballot is important and You know reflecting after the season when you know the time is right reflecting upon like the you know the the ones that get away from you on along with the good times that's also important now after the game after you made the cake you came in and you said this I feel like like in the spirit of my teammates who have been here to talk to you guys last few weeks I should say something like real inspiring how big trust and I'll open up for questions. Now that was take upon what Mark Ingram said. Forgive me obviously you guys are lobbying for your quarterback Lamar Jackson to an MVP. And he doesn't need a lot of support. I don't think at this point even the other four weeks after the season. But what is big. Trust me what is that. I wish I could tell you. like with some level of confidence but Yeah I I can tell you what it means what it means to me to to all of us At least give you my best. Guess really more than anything. I'm just trying to fit in like I'm the I'm the thirty thirty. I'm thirty year old DAD now so I'm not. I don't think I ever was cool and I'm definitely not cool now I believe the translation would You know be something along the lines of you know. Trust that when I say something I'm GonNa do it. You know I think that's I think that's what it stems from. So you know. Mark added the the B. I. G. in front of it and now we've got you know I I mean hey you I think Lamar mark should definitely capitalize. Like a you know. Maybe maybe that's a part of like new WAIROA ADA payroll. There should be like a big trust collection that that should be dropping soon so that I mean that's just my opinion. I think that would be a great move. You're seeing your thirty year old. Oh On cool dad. And I'm a fifty two year old on cool dad in fact even to my producer Travis before I said are they saying big trust or big trike. What are they saying? I don't understand because I'm not cool enough to understand. Yeah I believe the spelling is trust like with three S.'s. Or more depending on how. How trustee see your feeling I mean I would even say that you could Swap out any or all of the SS for dollar signs. And I think that would make twenty cents but again you know this. I'm just I'm speculating. but yeah I think I believe that's how it spilled now. Now let's just get past the big trust issue. What has it been like to be around and watch Lamar Jackson? This season is really incredible You know he's playing at an MVP level and we all know that the whole world knows that now What what really stands out to me as a you know as a guy who's been around for for for a couple minutes now You know I've been fortunate enough to play on some very very good Championship Ravens. Football teams right Lamar is leading this team You know like like you. Would you would expect and like you would want from the you know the quarterback of your team right Not only is he leading this team. But he's playing at such a high level and I mean I can't say I I don't think anybody around here can say enough positive stuff stuff about him but you know the maybe it doesn't necessarily stick out as much as just you know his performance but his passion He cares so deeply about winning winning and playing well and producing In that mentality permeates through the whole locker room in a really. You know such a a really significant tangible way like any single guy at any moment knows that we could be called upon to make the play to win the game and that mentality you know I it starts with guys like Lamar guys like earl. Thomas Marshall Yonder and I I in the thing is I just you know. Drop a couple of names but I could probably name everybody in our building and Everybody feels the same way. When did you know that l'amour was different? I could probably point to you. Know a couple dozen plays that he makes where every single one you're like. Wow that was unbelievable. Like I've never seen anybody do that before. For I mean I. I think it's every single I. It seems like every single game that we play. He has one of those Chris Berman type of place I I should probably try it again. He has that Chris Berman. Type of plays that You know just totally like totally you know electrifies the stadium idiom You know totally electrifies. Our sideline So I I. It's it's hard even pick one moment. There's there there are so many the big plays that he has made and he is responsible for every single one of them. It's you know it's almost shocking. How he continues to do exactly that you ever do? You are in a Chris. Berman voice. I know you sing opera. I mean is that possible like. Could you sing. Oh holy night or ED. Murray like that Chris Berman Voice. Like could that not on this podcast. No Way I could convince you to try that you got you got There's a fee for that. Can you give some sort of sample that Chris. Berman Voice of. What is your favorite verse to sing a little Goto? Anything like that. That could give the viewers who don't realize lice how superb you are at singing opera. A little taste of your special unique talents. No Man. I can't do that. I've got uh I gotta keep the cards close to the chest on that one. I think I think I'm I'm like You know I'm trying to think of like a musical act here. Yeah I can't come up with one but you know I'll just pop up like once every you know couple of years and You know I'll do like a like a flash mob style performance so you know. I think we're like a couple years removed from the last one. So you know. I think The next several months indefinitely popped up for those who don't know who are listening just didn't sings opera. In seven different languages English Spanish French German Italian Latin and rushing you performed at the Catholic Christmas Festival at the Baltimore Basilica in two thousand fifteen and sixteen any performances. Coming up here soon. Justin nothing of formerly on the schedule right now but But stay tuned stay tuned for for stay tuned for what. That's all I can say at this point in time. If you could sing opera at one venue in the world what would it be Justin. ooh Man You know I I. I think I'd have to say Carnegie Hall just because It's you know like it. It's so storied and historic and You know how many how however many great acts have come through there for for years and years so Yeah I'd I'd have to say Carnegie for sure but that has never happened before correct that it has not. Yeah and before I let you go. I would be remiss in not asking this is Adam Vinatieri's twenty fourth. NFL season. You I believe are in your eighth season out of Texas. You are the most accurate kicker in NFL history connecting almost ninety one percent of your field goals. How how much longer do you want to do this with opera and fatherhood and life beckoning you know? It's one of those you put one foot in front of the other type of things and you see how long you can you know ride this gravy train with biscuit wheels. Man I'm I'm I'm just happy to be here And and I'm having a great time and as long as I'm having a good time kicking. Footballs I'm GONNA keep going. Keep doing exactly that I think my my wife's to deal with How long I should play is I should play and play and play until I come home one day Dan. I'm like you know a I'm really thinking about hanging it up. What do you think? And then It'll be at that day. Plus one more year and added on. Yeah listen we are fortunate to watch you and I will say this Justin when you're ready to make that big time stay tuned announcement on your the next opera performance or whatever it is involving your next chapter in your opera career. You have an open invitation to come into this politics to make that announcement anytime you want. That sounds like a plan plan. I feel like the tweet that would accompany that would be shortage close to the ravens have confirmed planning spectacular performance at Carnegie Hall. Stay stay tuned. We'll actually I think it would be Justin Tucker revealed on the Adam Schefter podcast that he's performing at Carnegie Hall fulfilling a Lifelong Dream for the first time. There you go. That's hey that's a great tweet. The songs are working. Yes something like that. I mean it just you know. That's my old newspaper mind. You know coming up lead on deadline just whacking out of my head there. And that's how we do whatever whatever. The news is the opera news I think. That'd be incredibly compelling Cuban over an open invite to reveal that news here anytime you want you just let your pr guy. Chad steel. No you ready to make your big announcement and we will have you on here to make it a another big announcement other than big trust you you got it. That sounds like a plan the enemy. Hey Justin thanks the time today. Really appreciate congratulations on the game. Winning kick in lots luck with the rest of the season you got it. Thank you although I will say I'm playing against you and the ESPN fancy left this week. So if you WANNA miss one field for me for a minute let me ricky. No Way I'm Gonna I I hope whoever's playing you smokes.

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12/15/20 HOUR 1- Mary Kay Cabot

The Dan Patrick Show

46:43 min | 2 months ago

12/15/20 HOUR 1- Mary Kay Cabot

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I'm interested to hear what game was better whole lot of fun last night in a bad beat by the way we'll talk about that as well. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dpi. Dan patrick dot com twitter. Handle a dp. Show louis riddick who was on the call. Last night monday night football. He'll join us coming up and we'll dive into the look test. That's what was told to me when the big ten started play. Ohio state had to impress the committee with the site test. And as a friend points out the titanic past the site test twos. Well but we'll look at who's in who's out and what kind of drama could happen. I'm just curious. And i was told by this last night by my Big ten source if it basically comes down to ohio state wins the big ten title game. They're going to be playing in the championship. Final four. that's what it comes down to the only way you see something changes if clemson loses to notre dame because my source said the feeling with the committee is right now clemson if they lost to notre dame for a second time would drop out of the final four by the way trevor lawrence. The clemson quarterback will join us on the program. Tomorrow if notre dame loses the thought is notre dame still stays in. And then it would be alabama clemson notre dame and texas am would be on the outside looking in but we'll discuss this a little bit later on last night's ravens browns game third highest scoring game monday night football history behind only the rams fifty four fifty one shootout over the chiefs in two thousand eighteen and the packers forty eight forty seven win against washington back in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. It had everything. It had twists turns. If this was a hollywood movie we would say. That's not true that's fiction but the ravens beat the browns and a wild game last night and john harbaugh after the game said the game was stranger than fiction ravens holding off the browns in a game that well. You had just about everything that you wanted. It had more key players playing well. You had lamar jackson baker mayfield. Going back and forth jackson disappears in the fourth. Quarter goes to the locker room. We don't know wise in the locker room. How long he's going to be in the locker room gets for cramps. Baker mayfield took advantage gave. The browns league. Jackson comes out of the locker room. Two minutes to go long touchdown pass browns immediately. Come back and then. Justin tucker hit a game. Winning field goal final seconds. There was also a safety because the line was baltimore minus three turned out to be a five point margin. This is why we see these big tv ratings for. nfl games. Because you never know what's going to happen and last night was certainly proof of that. Here's john harbaugh the ravens head coach. After the game they played a very good football game and we played a very good football game. It's just a game that's going to go down in history so just proud to be a part of it and really proud of players. Here is baker. mayfield on seeing. Lamar jackson appear from the locker room as an unbelievable player. Unbelievable guy i mean is. Work ethic is is unreal. It was like the movie you know. I hate that for trace. Mcsorley praying that. He's he's okay but you know as soon as he went down. You could see lamar charting back out on the field you know jeeze. He's a great player. So you know you're going to have to try and contain a near. You're never gonna be able to stop guys like that. He's a great player. Oh the saying goes. You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him. Baker i mean. If you're going to do then do it right. Ethanol mosh damn. Here is lamar jackson. He was he was wondering what you were wondering when he went into the locker room. Jk latest. i'm like bro. I need some help me get better quick because this this crucial game right here you know both teams and went to the back on talk. She's helping me out a lot in doing a great job. Jonathan ball downfield. I see him on We gotta start and start running out there. Kale runaway me is fourth now. then office. not tell often guys agree catches him. He came out with victory. Also he wanted you to know that he didn't pull the paul pierce. The bathroom cramping. I ain't paul pierce cramping. Yeah because we don't know sometimes when athletes disappear and you go. Oh i could happen golfers. Do this all the time. You'll see them. Hit a tee shot and then you'll see them run and you'll where they running to you they're going to port. A potty. twitter had a field day on the final quarter last night. And lamar jackson just wants everybody to know that he didn't have to use the bathroom. He was going in there because he was getting an iv. I think somebody noticed a band aid on his arm as if he had had some kind of there. But there were some twitter snoops who were looking to see. If lamar jackson was telling the truth but that was that was a lot of fun. Baltimore was favored. So you can't be surprised at the outcome. I think the number of points. You're surprised if my take away with the cleveland browns. Is you better get a defense here. Because that's the team that can throw the football very well and you allow them to score forty seven points. I thought i thought. Cleveland look good. That's the offense. I wanna see. Bakker had a bad interception. You still ran the ball. Well you made some plays but if you're not gonna play defense or you're going to give up that kind of offense then you're going to be a one and done in the postseason. They got the giants coming up and there are only slight favorites. I think three and a half point favorites. Then they had the jets and then they had the steelers win one more of those games you got ten wins and i think cleveland browns fan would have signed up in a hurry. If you said you're going to have ten wins this year you might get eleven winds here and maybe pittsburgh's resting some of their players in the final weekend but there's a chance you're going to be a wildcard team. It looks like as for baltimore. You had to have it and they feel like the more dangerous team and they're gonna get healthier and that's something that the nfl the nfc or the has to be on alert. Baltimore is going to be better than we've seen them in the last couple of weeks. But forty-seven forty two last night's final. 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More days for guaranteed christmas delivery. And you can shop at dan patrick dot com and place your orders. They're make love. You got a poll question for me today okay. So paul put forth this question. That i think he was trying to be snarky. Okay but i think it's a great question. I think there's an obvious answer if you could have one of these players who would be ezekiel elliott. Or justin tucker. What's the price tack. Let's assume that the same price for the hypothetical a good to a good. Nfl running back. Yeah i'm paying more for justin tucker than i should if i'm paying him what i paying. A zeke elliot. I guess kind of split the difference. Let's say they're both medium expensive but just for the player. Would you want on your offense at your team. Justin tucker. There's nobody like him in the nfl. That's pretty fascinating. Though of compared to a guy who is considered top three running back in the league year and a half ago. Yeah but that's a long time ago. I think zeke is going to get better. I think his better days are behind him. Justin tucker is going to the hall of fame. I know what have i. What have i tweaked a little bit and said nick chubb or justin tucker and it's the same price. I still take justin tucker. Justin tucker decides games games on the line. He decides them nick. Chubb is wonderful player. But i'm taking justin tucker. He's going to the hall of fame. Mclovin see i would think ezekiel elliott will get a million dollars. A year for. He'll be a levy bow with his contract. Where tucker's six million but nick chubb. He's going to be a ten to twelve million dollar guys. So i think the value chubb seems like a chuck the nfl would take. I would take justin talk because he wins games games on the line. There's nobody else. He's marianna rivera when you go. Okay games on the line. And they got justin tucker. They usually win. You know. I think when when he misses a field goal. That's big news. When justin tucker mrs one which he did the previous game yes see. I like that sort of universal agreement that you start your team or you add to your team. The guy who's actually not even considered a real football people. Well if you said you asked me this question like five years ago then it's different. I think because zeke elliot. I just don't think zeke's gotten better you know. Maybe he's exposed a little bit because he has to create a little bit more. You don't have your your starting quarterback and you're offensive line's banged up. Hey welcome to the nfl zeke. He had a had a great offensive line and he had a very good quarterback. All of a sudden those things go away and all of a sudden. I mean i don't wanna running back. I don't wanna running back with a high draft pick. I don't and certainly not on his second contract here. Who would you want to see. No who would you not want to see. Who would you not want to see in the playoffs between baltimore and cleveland. How about that one. Because i wouldn't want to see baltimore. Baltimore has an x factor. Cleveland doesn't have that x factor and that x. factor is lamar jackson. I don't know exactly what i'm going to get. But when i do get lamar jackson from a year ago he can win the game for you baker mayfield to me last night. I was really curious. Would he get into that shootout mode. Anything you can do. I can do better. Like i was worried about that. He wanted to be competitive. And i can go toe to toe with lamar jackson. I didn't want him to get over his skis. I want to run the football. I got two great running backs. Maybe that defense that secondary is not good at all but the front front four has got to put pressure. And if they're able to do that that's one thing but lamar jackson's not a drop back. Passer where you put pressure on him. In fact put pressure on him. And he's going to make you pay baltimore is getting healthier and they would make me nervous. We'll talk to mary. Kay cabot. Who covers the cleveland. Browns cleveland plain dealer. She'll join us Coming up in about ten minutes from now. Mclovin poll questions. Do you have another. Paula has to ask if you believe. Lamar jackson was a cramps or was it bathroom related. I don't care oh come on. I'm throwing the bs flake he opened up on. When he ran he ran to the locker room to get treatment on cramped up. It felt like you know if you're cramped legs you couldn't run to the locker room know. Think lamar jackson should lean into this and get sponsors and a modem and pedialyte and all that stuff. I don't think that's what you want to be known for a when you talk about bobby hurley. People get around to eventually when he had diarrhea the national title game against unlv. That was like thirty years ago. Yeah well still round. And then i came out of the locker room with his shorts on backwards and Nah i don't think so. I mean there's certain things you don't like rafael palmeiro when you say rafael palmeiro cheater Erectile dysfunction because he did the did he do the viagra sponsor. There's certain things you go. That's never leaving me. It's just not. Yes paulie i disagreed. Everyone's talking about it. We're all discussing it. Don't don't blame it on branches. Say i had some issues i just had covert a couple of weeks ago. I got stomach issues. Now change nicknamed beast commode change number two to go forward. What else do you have mclovin. Final four tonight. They announced the new. Rankings you kind of mentioned it earlier but is tonight's final four the final final four. If you had about a week's pay going to be any change off tonight. Well if notre dame beach clemson then you're probably going to have change now depending on how close it is but clemson at ten and a half point favorite. It feels like if notre dame loses to clemson they're going to still stay in. Ohio state beats northwestern in the big ten title game. They stay in alabama beach florida. They're staying in the probably. So you know. I am and you got eight wins. And it's in the sec. It's still comes down to the site test of an tradition like. Why is usc not in the same category with ohio state. Usc is five. No if oregon their fifteenth in the country. Like if you wanna go hey. usc now us's not great. They may have the best quarterback in the nation next year playing this year as far as the number one draft pick and keyed on slava's but i don't know ohio state. Yeah what have you done while you're ohio state. The problem is hasn't been good the last what decade and therefore there's no momentum going into this but i could make the same argument i go well. Us's five and if they win their six no mclovin but would it. Ohio state usc line bp twenty points. It's how we view this like. We say this is about. It's the same schools every year. It is i promise you and i had a source telling me this last night. Because he heard me say yesterday. If johnny manziel was starting quarterback for am and it's his heisman year am would somehow make it into the final four in his opinion because it would be great tv. That's what this is about as much as we want to go. This is you know based off of your resume and it's not it's not and that's that's the unfortunate part of this. Is they give you the perception they give you. At least you know the possibility of these teams. That could make it in there. Hey cincinnati i mean good god iowa state con at two losses in the big twelve. They played wells of okay. Great coastal carolina showed me more than any of these schools. They weren't afraid to play anybody. Like hey what do you want us to do. Where do you want us to play. We will play and they go undefeated. Nice little story and it's a nice little story. It doesn't matter. They won ohio state. They want clemson. They want notre dame they won alabama because they want you to watch apple. But what really stinks. And you've been saying this for three months. They could have all those teams play toys with an eighteen playoff. You know i know that. Clemson versus coastal carolina may not end up being pretty. But we'd all tune in for the first half and you get another playoff game instead there. There's nothing happening zero there. No games so you get trevor lawrence twice you get in book twice you get nick sabin twice and even if you said coast carolina's got blown out. I just want you to have an opportunity. I think anybody who's played sports. And you've been an underdog all you wanna do is just let us have a chance because movies are based on the underdog. It's rare when you go. We got a sports movie and it's about the team that was favored and they won by thirty six the end it doesn't happen. It's the underdog that's what we root for. That's what we want. We want to see the possibility and we don't give college football teams the possibility it is a closed fraternity and there's only about six maybe seven members in that fraternity and the hazing. The hazing takes place with the other schools. That think they're going to get in and they don't you know you have hell night and you're there and you think you're going to get him by the way. We had that in the fraternity. That i was in on hell night. You go through everything everything they you up as you pretty good and then at the very end one of the brothers says one of you didn't one of you didn't get in so we've gone through. I got all over me. I've been eating pledge apples. Which are onions. You know you had to eat one and then pass it down and then pass it out. They break an egg and put it in one guy's mouth une- nap to pass it to the next guy and the next guy in the night the pledges and we went through all of this stuff hours of hazing and then they say well one of you didn't make it so we got together and then we said we don't want to be in the fraternity and we all started to walk away and they're like no no no. We're just joking right. No no we don't we don't wanna be and they're like no. We're we're joking there okay. And then we came back and we got to drink beer and we became brothers. See we don't have that with coastal carolina through all the hazing that they don't get in. Cincinnati yes todd. Think about how much more exciting the weekly weekly rankings would be. What tune in fact that will be knowing that it matters six eight hundred ten if they opened up to more teams. When it's a foregone conclusion that you know it's four and then who cares after that kinda shirt you today. I'm wearing a. This is a bass pro shops flannel going on. I have the top button i know. I don't know that's that's why brought it up the college that's about to happen. Collar gets a little weird. When i when i popped the top on. I like the way the collar lies. Even if it's not a cool thing to have the top button. So i just went with that my look now. Are you in a gang or something not currently offered some opportunities but it's not my thing up streets of central connecticut already. We'll settle on a poll question coming up next hour louis riddick. From monday night football one of the analysts there will join us which teams more dangerous going into the playoffs. Assuming the ravens get there but the ravens or the browns based off what he saw last night coming up next. we'll dive into the cleveland. Browns was that a good game a good performance by the cleveland browns. Mary kay cabot. We'll be back with us. She covers the browns. She'll join us coming up right after this. 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I actually did fall asleep for a few hours. And when i woke up i thought did they win the game where it was almost a loss that felt like a victory. They played their hearts out. They fought so incredibly hard. I mean it was a shame that that somebody actually did have to lose that game. Because i mean they all left it out there on the field matching the the morale or the feeling that a cleveland had won that game last night because baltimore was favored. But if like we've been around long enough to know. Cleveland loses those kind of games. But they stayed in that game last night. They came back in that game a couple of times last night so the takeaway from that is what. What's the big concern. As you move forward towards the end of the regular season well i think the takeaway is. They really showed the hat that they can hang with a team like this once. They get into the playoffs. I mean this is what it's going to be. You're going to face a team like the ravens again. I mean look at the buffalo bills Obviously look at kansas city. Some of the other teams that you're going to have to face just to get to where you want to go so i think the takeaway was you know. They grew up a little bit. They had to put on their big boy pants and make it to the end of that game and they almost pulled it off. And so i think that's a really good sign for them. The concern obviously is the ron defense. And you just can't have somebody run all over like i'm happy to report that i wasn't around for the game in one thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred. Who do you think is more. Come postseason time between these two while. That's that's a great question. I think i mean the browns are so hot. But i think the ravens are getting it back at the right time as well. I think that they've now got a great chance of making the playoffs themselves I wouldn't if i were in. Afc team i wouldn't wanna touch either of these teams And i think it's going to be a great show But for purposes of this. I'm going to say the browns. The browns miss odell beckham. You know. I think you always miss in odell beckham junior. I don't care what he says. Baker and odell. In the beginning of the season i think was more a function of baker. Trying to figure out kevin's defence. Tease offense getting comparable in it. I think odell would be lighting it up with baker right now. So i think so. I like what i saw from baker mayfield interception. That's a bad interception. But it feels like he's letting the game of come to him and he's not trying to force it he knows he's got two thousand yard rushers back there. Pick your spots play action. And i thought he did a pretty good job last night. I don't. I don't know if this is the new and improved baker. But like have you seen. Is there a maturation process going on here. Yes absolutely. I have seen it in this offense and i think that's what the key is in the first game. When they faced the ravens they were not ready. This was not the offense that they were. They could never have done something like what they did. Last night. they couldn't have done it now They feel like they can beat anybody. I kind of think they can. I mean really. This is a team that if you have that kind of an offensive line that kind of a defensive line and those two headed monster running backs baker mayfield running off the play action like that. I think this is a very very dangerous football team in and he has grown up in. Kevin stefanski play action based scheme. Would it be expectations of this team this year. You know what i think. They're i think they're growing right now. I think now they can see an other. People can see the country got to see it last night That they pretty much can hang with anybody or even beat anybody. There are very few teams. That i'm not sure that they can beat kansas city If i had to make a pick for them to be kansas city right now. I would pick kansas city but there aren't many other teams that i would pick the browns to lose two in the playoffs right now because i was wondering about that when you have a running game in a in a good defensive line you can put pressure on the quarterback here that that travels like. If you're able to do that. I don't have to blitz against patrick mahomes and i can run the football control the clock and keep him off the field. I know it sounds preposterous to say. But you know. Cleveland can almost take the blueprint that the titans had last year. Hey just control the clock. Your defense is an exposed. Make him you know. Every time he goes out there he asked to score. I don't know if it's possible. But those are the kinds of teams that make me nervous. Compla- off time because they can make you have to adjust them instead of the other way around. yes absolutely. you're absolutely right about that. The browns can run the ball on anyone and the chiefs. Have i think Less than we looked it was the twenty third ranked run defense so the browns were able to play a little bit of that keepaway. I would think and then the other thing for them defensively is that they did not have denzel ward last night their best. Cornerback they did not have rodney harrison. Last night their best safety now they hope to get both of those guys back fairly soon. Running the playoffs denzel. Maybe even this coming week so The future does look pretty. Bright is baker doing anymore commercials. You know i don't know if he's making more commercials right now. I think they did most of those before the season. But i will tell you what he is funny. I think that he rivals peyton manning in terms of just his comedic timing. He's a really really funny individual. And i really enjoy those commercials. I think they're hilarious but he seems serious. Though at every press conference. I i don't see any personality there. I mean we see it in the commercials but he seems pretty serious. That is by design. He completely has toned himself down in those press conference press conferences except for when he uses his his pop culture. Reference that That the other quarterbacks in the room are putting him up to so when he does that then you know he shows a little bit of something but other than that you're right. He has been stone faced in those press conferences. We can barely get anything out of him. Bashir but i think that was that was part of the maturation process for him. Hopefully he'll ed baxter personality one of these days. Wait you're saying the other quarterbacks on the roster they give him like lines to insert into press conferences. You know what i don't know if they give him the line or if he has to come up with it himself but that has been one of the little games that they have going on. This season is that is that he has to do that. And then all the sudden you'll hear him. You know something from the office or or something like that so Say as long as i'm trying to cut down on an idiot or something like that was the the line. That's his new philosophy. Yes that's what that is all about. And you know that was revealed in a pre-game in a pre-game interview that he did so but you're right it would be nice if we could get a little bit about some of that sort of fun baker out of him and hopefully he'll loosen up. But i think that was a kevin's fancy thing too. I think he was like you know what. Let's just kinda shut up a little bit off the field and just put the blinders on and get focused here mary. Kay thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you soon. Sounds good thanks for having me. Merica cabot covers the browns cleveland. Calm and the cleveland plain dealer bakers going to be doing more wealth. They're making the playoffs bakers. Probably going to be doing some more commercials there. We have paulie they shot all those commercials when they stunk. I mean now it's it's open season when you're a playoff eligible. He's going to find the a green light again. Yeah i probably hold off but what happens is if you pass them up as andrew luck. Did andrew luck passed up all those commercial opportunities and that. Rg three took him and I'm i'm baker mayfield. Probably goes well. If i don't take them then somebody else is going to swoop in and take him. Patrick mahomes is kind of moving in encroaching on aaron rodgers territory here and that's what happened. You know peyton. Manning has a lot of commercials that staying power and he hasn't been in the nfl for a few years. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com. Fill in indiana leauges off this morning. Hi phil hey. Dan always my pleasure. I appreciate it buddy Two quick things number one you talked about athletes that endorsed products nineteen eighty george brent hemorrhoids They were playing the phillies Kansas city royals. He did preparation h. Commercials after that so I know that athletes do that. But secondly i think the ravens are the toughest out and Lamar jackson looked fresh. Had kind of a couple of weeks there. And then the heat's not going to be on them dan. They're not going to be at one seat. So i i like the ravens wanted to get your thoughts. Yeah i think they're going to be a tough out but they're going to get healthier. And i think lamar jackson. Maybe a light bulb went off last night where he realized this is who i am and how i have to play. I don't know if he went in with a different philosophy. A different game plan. This year never looked comfortable last night. It looked like he. Basically said hey. I'm just going to take matters into my own hands. Who's with me and try to keep up with me jamie north carolina. Hi jamie what's on your mind today. Hey dan how you guys doing this real real quick. Sorry i was just thinking hail to the shanty clears put them against ohio state playing game. I'll watch that. Was the most fun i've seen ever mullets versus mormon started back to jamie. Yeah coastal carolina has done everything that they can possibly do. But that's not good enough. And i know we want the four best teams in there. But do we want the the foremost deserving teams in there. Because there's a difference in that if i say. Hey let's just put the blue bloods in there okay. Those might be the four best. Teams are the most deserving and why have rankings. Why have a top twenty five. Because it doesn't really outside of the top ten. Does it really matter. And i still go back to boise. State member boise state lab and implanting. Anybody well nobody wanted to play. 'em it's like basketball. Don't even know where it is doing it and how to pronounce it and then all of a sudden come march madness. We go up. I'll be damn gonzaga's zag is doing it again. They're the lead eight sweet sixteen and then we'd make the same mistake. The following year boise state's cold off but they had their their window where they were competitive. They were fun and nobody wants to play them. Ohio state songkhla play a home in home with coastal carolina. Not because they have everything to lose their and nothing to gain there. But i just wanna see these smaller schools or the schools on the outside looking in your window shopping. You don't get in the store their window shopping and it feels like there's hunt one hundred teams. That are window shopping now. They think they get into store. They don't get in the store they don't even get to shop online and to me. That's a big with college football. I'd love to see a surprise. I'd love to see a team where all of a sudden people go. Oh did you see that team. They're really fun. Oh i really love that player that quarterback that whatever it is that's what happens in march madness like we fall in love every march. It's with the team. A player coach that we like that. We otherwise wouldn't imagine a college basketball. Did this no march madness. We got our four teams here right. How about there was an eight team. March madness you go. I don't know i wouldn't be being fun. I'm not saying we need to have sixty eight football teams in there. But i do think there's a fair number that you could get some great storylines there and involve more fan bases more parts of the country. Instead of the same schools over and over and over time and if cowed when right to the final four. Then what do you do with the dukes and kentucky's they've struggled early. Obviously you're going to have them both in or certainly one of the two and then all of a sudden miss out on that you gotta start. Putting the blue blood denim basketball to that may not deserve it record wise. Yeah you'd be putting. Kansas in there and do could be in their michigan. State would be in their kentucky would be in there. And then you have a couple of schools jockeying for position every year. But i just liked the possibility. The element of the possibility. The surprise that'll play the day's coming up next here back after this on the dan patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. If i'm not commuting anymore where do. I really want to live while you handle questions. 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Visit geico dot com today Dot com play of the day jackson role for the right lobster. He's got an open hollywood. He's in touch right. Oh it's unbelievable as if scripted by steven spielberg justice. Trace mcsorley goes down with a knee injury at the exact moment. Lamar jackson comes back on. The field comes into the game. He throws it and a hollywood brown catches fourth down and takes it to the house. Courtesy of wb l. The ravens radio network lamar jackson from the locker room. The field to the end zone to hollywood brown before that six of eleven. Eighty one yards no touchdowns. No i n tease after the locker. Room break five or six. Eighty two yards one touchdown and no interceptions. That's your play of the day. Play of the day is brought to you by the great folks at one. Eight hundred flowers peppermint roses. Todd i love those. Yeah but don't be goofing around with candy. Canes now you gotta step it up. 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I mean i think the last time was maybe two thousand eleven or so maybe longer than it's an occasion when he talks about this because he's told the stories before but you went deeper and got a lot more about that movie and if you love it it it's really cool. Yeah peter billingsley was very gracious to join me and by the way. Thanks for the reaction. Bryan cranston walter white. We did the final scene. And breaking bad and i was even telling bryan cranston some of the things that were going on and he didn't even know but he was. He was very very good guests. Very gracious with his time in Peter billingsley. I just did one with ralph. Macho cobra kai where we go back and look at the karate kid and ralph has been on the show a few times in fact we ask ralph one. One of the times he was on. He was at home. When i said where is the trophy. You earned is at the all valley championship trophy. All valley championship. Yeah and he said why. Have it in my house. I said we'll take a picture. He takes a picture and then sends it out to us. He still has that trophy and he still has that. I think it's one thousand nine hundred. Forty seven four deluxe the yellow car that mr maggie gave him and he still has that. The car in cobra kai season three coming up. Is that car yes. Pong which signature role would you want if you could be an actor and have one. It's like your claim to fame daniel. Russo crotty kid ralphie. A christmas story both are kind of they're gonna be around forever kind of immortalized. Well i would go ralph macho dan daniel larusso danielson because that happened in the eighties. And now we have cobra kai that's happening now. He he started out on youtube when he came in and did an interview with us in new york and he said oh. We're going to do you know we're bringing back sort of the karate kid is called and we're going to be on youtube and i thought okay i didn't know anybody was gonna find it and i mean it's become a global phenomenon. Now he said this third season Eat speak it's gone global here and that's a testament to him and believing in this Project but i would go daniel son and daniel larusso. I talk about the college football playoff. But it's just because there's so many athletes who want a chance that's all you want. You want a chance to be able to play against the big boys. If army can take tyler. Marie and to overtime in oklahoma couple years ago anything anything can happen. It's one game that you're talking about now you'd have to win another game after that or maybe another game after that but i mean the reason. Why march madness works is just one game. You face somebody. That's the only time you face him. It's not a best two out of three started. Best four out of seven. It's one game on that day that night whoever's past and then you advance because there's so many times when you go if you said houston was gonna play. Nc state ten times. I would take houston nine times but the one time. Nc state chocked fi. Slamma jamma if you said. Georgetown was going to play villanova. Ten times i would take georgetown seven of those times all you want. Is that possibility. Butler got to face do to embarrass themselves. Let me gordon hayward had a chance to win it. That's all you want. You don't have that in college football and and we have that in the bowl games because this is what a somebody who's involved in the college football playoff committee said to me yesterday saying you know. You're you're railing on us but we have bowl games. I seven there. Nobody cares about a ballgame. Well those two schools do i go. It doesn't matter it really doesn't matter. Oh did you see wyoming beat. Ucla years ago. Yes someone that wants. the gay. All right doesn't matter. It's it's kind of a glorified exhibition game. Nothing's going to change. In fact we're only going to reinforce that these schools are the schools that play for national titles. It is going to happen by the way sunday night. 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PMS 2.0 140 - Justin Tucker, Mike Florio, & More NFL Chatter

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PMS 2.0 140 - Justin Tucker, Mike Florio, & More NFL Chatter

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Let's have a day enjoy the show. We're being joined now by Manza trailblazer in in the blogging world he is sold companies to both NBC. And I think espn the guy's genius the founder of Pro Football. Talk the man in the know. Hello Mr Mike Flurry I thought. Hey I got a I got a question. We're talking football today or are we talking about jumping lakes. You're going on roller coaster do flurry others want to take a shot at me. I'm not even employees of Game Day. Yeah Hey listen Ah I I don't want to get me in trouble but I thought it was funny. I thought he handled the wealth. Thank you I appreciate that speaking handling things. Well I don't know how to handle the tweet. They put out this warning about something. Where you said I have no inside Info? This is just a feeling that Andrew luck is going to be the starting quarterback for the Las Vegas Team in the XFL in twenty wanting twenty. Where did that come from floor? You A big brain. You don't just make things up not me. XFL In the NFL. Las Vegas Raiders. Like the old. ooh Oh oh my God. I thought I read that and I thought it was an Xfl to why do you think he's going to be quarterback for the raiders. In Las Vegas. Well I think Derek Carr ours is not going to be the quarterback of the team next year. I think they seriously considered finding another quarterback. This year Mike May. GM of the team basically said so when explaining why they kick tires on collar. Murray and Dwayne has before the draft basically there's an obligation to constantly look for upgrade. And if you find one at quarterback gotta take you gotTa do. What's right for the team? And I just think Derek Car Jon Gruden was ever a good fit. I think they've tried to make it a fit. I don't think it works. And I think they're gonNA look for whatever's out there and I could see a guy like Jon gruden getting obsessed with the idea of trying to talk to lock out of retirement. Wouldn't be to do. The colts still hold his rights. And a lot of domino's would have to fall the right way for it to happen and but if he wants to come back I mean the colts have you covered percent. I don't see the colts turning aside or benching perset just because lock all of a sudden decides he wants to come back and they could get some sort of value in trade. Everybody moves on and there's all he wanted to come back after a year out of football but I could see gruden being very relentless in. I'm trying to make it happen if he wraps his arms around. The idea of getting a veteran quarterback a smart guy. He'll be able to handle grooms offense and the guy who'd be sufficiently fixed in that you can take heck whatever abused verbally grew wants to throw out. gruden likes to abuse as quarterback because that's his way of simulating game conditions. So actually went on the football field. It's a relief leaf because they they don't have to listen to Gruden and car. Isn't I believe strong enough to take that and I think that's what's doomed that relationship from the start. I'm Kinda surprised prizes last two years. But you know the raiders are GonNa look around. Why wouldn't you call the colts and see what it would take to get? Andrew Lots if Andrew lucked had his mind chains and come back in play and you know to be on the team going into Las Vegas again. If he wants to come back is being away from a year from football for a year has reignited that fire for him it would be a It just makes too much sense. They're not happen if he decides that he's ready to come back. This is so interesting because I was thinking about going and kicking for a team. I tried with you about that a little bit and I talked to Chris Ballard after it all came in my knee blew up and I decided I'm GonNa go into the media world here and he said he's a now if you were gonNA go kick somewhere that said somewhere was going to have to pay for you to meet. I couldn't even fathom what it would be if Andrew Luck was if he just to give up Andrew. Luck's rights to another team. That that would have to be. I mean I would have to be pretty massive giveaway and I don't know if they do they have it. Just they do because the governor Khalil. Mack did rid of my cooper. Do they have enough pieces to potentially make that play. While I mean the question becomes how reasonable they willing to be given that they I feel a debt of gratitude to Andrew lucked. And if he if he doesn't play for someone else they never have anything for him right and all he has to do is show up like Brett. Farve did in two thousand eight when they were ready to go with Aaron Rodgers and say here I am with me and then you've got probably got to figure out what you're GonNa do if he's determined to play again that's the biggest factor actor in all of this. If he decides he wants to play the culture I think would be wise to try to maybe sparking auction get a couple of teams at the table. But the the thing is you know for quarterbacks they're going to be a little picky about what they wanna go. This is Andrew lucked coming out of retirement. If he would choose to do it to just come out of retirement play for anyone. Why would have to be the right spot? And when you look at what Rubin has done. Historically with with veteran quarterbacks guys like rich Gannon and rich Gannon was never anything close to Andrew. Lock before he we got connected with Jon Gruden I just. There's just this weird. I could just see gruden wanting to do it. I could see the force of personality doing everything he could to try to make happy. But you're right they'd have to give up. Something probably significant. I don't know that it would take a first round pick but you know if your quarterback situation is unsettled. Would you ship a first round. Pick the colts for Andrew. Luck if you know he's really coming back and he wants to stay and he's a he's really serious about playing I. I strongly consider doing it. I mean if I'm looking for quarterback anyway I'd rather get a guy that can play in a guy and rolling the dice on. I just feel like it's more than a first round. Pick it personally. I could be wrong. You know more than I do but for me I feel no no no. He knows who knows what Chris draw line in the sand and say no way in Hell for and I think you get involved in say ruin releasing his rights to the place for us to replace for no one if he wants to come back back. He played for the colts and we will put you on the bench. Okay hey say say hello to the good boy back there for me but yeah that's that's make the she's a good girl she might that spark which you here's me talking wild well tell me I said hello and I. My dog had to go to the vet last night. So GonNa take care of had an allergic reaction daddy daycare this morning because MOMS comes Outta town had to make sure the house didn't go up in flames from all the animals. I can absolutely feel right. I want fire a couple of questions that you before we let you go. No you're very busy. Thank you for getting on here Jason. Garrett he's Donna this year right I think he's got to take the cowboys at least to the NFC championship game. I haven't been there since nineteen ninety five. I don't see it happening. I don't see them winning on the road against the team likes the saints. The forty niners seahawks. So I think he's going to be done and then who knows what you're GONNA do next. Maybe liar liar all right. Tom Brady GonNa leave the patriots as you're gonNA retire. What do you think's GonNa happen with Tom? He seems more upset than he has in the past. And is Josh mcdaniels. The head coach Dallas Cowboys. What Tom Brady is a quarterback for the cowboys a possibility all God that would be something? Wouldn't I don't think the cowboys are ready to bench press. Thought though we're move on from him I look I. I think I think that that all the signs. Are there suggesting Tom Brady's frustrated and that maybe it is time to move on. I think he'd like to walk away with the Super Bowl Championship. The the question becomes is he willing to go somewhere else and make money grabs if there isn't that clear opportunity to win the Super Bowl. 'cause I can't find a spot for him where I would feel like. He's he's definitely going to be in the mix unless drew brees tires and the saints decide. They want to do it for you. Tom Brady before they'd handed over to Teddy Bridgewater assuming that they can evaluate gradient conclude that he's still good enough. I mean how much of the offensive struggles are on his shoulders. I don't know because You know it's it's it feels like sacrilege to say that Tom Brady may not be as good as it used to. These guys forty two and maybe some of the performance. This year is on him but you know a team like the CHARGERS I. They've got to do something to attract act fans in L. A. whether it's Cam Newton whether it's Tom Brady and again I don't know the Brady's GonNa WanNa make a money grab but if on the chargers and Brady's available I I've got to consider that because he can sultanas Jersey a ton of tickets and this team is struggling to compete with the rams in that market and getting a gala grey even for a year or two. He still says he wants to play. He's forty five the beyond getting them for a year or two ago a long way towards helping the chargers establish a footprint Annella. We've been on the chargers train since the beginning. Tom Brady not sure what's going to happen. We'll be exciting to watch. Gotcha okay. Let's pivot Ron Rivera. became the second quarterback coach fired this season. WHO's GonNa be the third and will there be another firing thick during the season? I don't know there's GonNa be another one during season. Of course we didn't expect Ron Rivera to get fired during the season. I mean there are plenty of guys are on the hot seat. I think Pat Shurmur is GonNa be gone when the season's over for the giants I think Freddie Kitchens needs to be. He's very concerned about his future. In Cleveland I think one year's enough for them to come to the conclusion that he's putting up against the ceiling that he's just not going to be able to bust through in the myles Garrett incident then it it doesn't help when it's time to figure out is kitchens. The right guy for the job and now Rivera's available pat with a month ago. Some of these teams considering pay their upgrade out there Ron Rivera. Thank God that they need to consider all due respect kitchens that between Sharon kitchens. I'm taking Rivera Seven days a week all right. Well that's most of the days. We've Okay Mr Florio. You can listen to them in the morning. You can listen to his podcast. You can read about him on pro football soccer legend. Your pies on. Did you see the Irishman. You know I still gotTa Watch the last hour. That's a fight man a three hour three and a half hours what are you. What does the human being do for more than three hours at a time? Some other than sleep great. I watched the long I did it. I did it in one sitting a lot of vitamins were had but I didn't sitting you Italians. I'll tell you what you guys had. Your hands is in everything in this country's history. Hey let me tell you. The book is awesome too. I read I read the book earlier this year and I highly recommend the book. The book is is always better than the movie. But I heard you paint. Houses is Great. Great Book and the movie's what's enough and so far it's been really good. I just can't find time to watch the last hour. I would like to let you know. Oh that on. Today's podcast Pat McAfee. Show two point zero. We interviewed. Michael Francis is an hour long conversation. He was a made man in the Colombo Colombo family during in that time he said it. Frankie is lying about it. He didn't Kilhof. There seems to be some lies being told in that whole thing but I enjoyed the entertainment level. We we gotta get you gotta get to a podcast. I can't thank you enough. Ladies and Gentlemen Profootballtalk Mike Florio. We are being joined leaned now by the best ball strike. I've ever Seen University of Texas Grad Handsome Opera Singer Baltimore Ravens. Kicker has the highest field goal percentage of the history of the NFL. Ladies and Gentlemen Big Trust Justin Tucker. What a stirring intro? Thanks man. Thanks for having me. Hey I tried my best. How are you feeling you're going to be living large? You hit a beautiful ball to get a big win for your ravens team. That was a slugfest in a downpour this past weekend. Yeah Man. We're all stoped Coming into this game you knew the you know the stakes are high and You know we're we're starting to play December football and You know everything that we're working for you. I mean you you know you've been part of some very very good teams yourself. You get to a point in the season where everything starts to matter more and more and more each each and every day so to come out of this game against a very very good in town at forty niners team And for US put together a complete game and get a win is definitely big time for us heading into December man you guys are crushing it in all three phases granted. Sam Cooke doesn't show up much done to get called much but when he does he executes at a very high level. I mean your team right now is hot and there was a candid moment. That was caught on the sideline between Harbaugh and Lamar where Lamar was. Basically being told by Harbaugh that hey in twenty years now fifteen years from now kids are GonNa be wearing the number eight all over the place because of you and then he said that's why they love you and he said I love you to coach. He's twice today but I also love you. It seems like your team's chemistry right now is at an all time high for Mark Ingram to everybody else feels like that team and you guys really care about each other. That's that's an X. factor that I don't think it's talked about enough definitely do Yeah this is a brotherhood man. This is a family as much as I've been a part of In my time playing professional football man. I've been. I've been lucky enough to be a partisan really really great teams. You know. got a chance to win the Super Bowl my rookie year and This team that you know we have right now has all the makings and all the potential to do great things You know it's And it also helps that that we we we all genuinely care about each other You know with what we're doing on the field and off the field as well. I mean you know stuff that's not going to be talked about nearly as much as what we're doing on on the field is You know this time of the year Thanksgiving You know and Christmas coming up You know the stuff that guys are doing off the field like Brandon car or with You know holiday helpers lit buddies and You know that's just one example. I could probably come up with like a at least a dozen of but You know if if one guy has an event and and we're trying to give back to the community You know and they ask. Hey who's available. Who can come and support there will be you know? Twenty twenty guys at least at each one of these events that You know one of our teammates is putting on I think that speaks to the camaraderie that we have the Brotherhood would that we share and You know when you have that in addition to the talent of the guys like Lamar Jackson and Marshall Janda and Earl Thomas then Sam Cook and you know all you add that all together and you have a chance to do something really special and Justin Tucker all pretty got you. What has been the biggest difference in Lamar Jackson? You think from last year to this year aside from your team buying in and getting the three tight ends and making much different different style of offense just personally both on the field and off the field. What is the Mark Jackson change from last year to this year? He just captivated the world right now. Many are considering him the best player player on the planet right now the most athletic person he walks on any field. What does he change? Most you think in the last year that you've seen from inside the locker room. Yeah I would say first of all I would certainly agree with you. That he is is absolutely one of the most dynamic players I've ever had the privilege of seeing up close and in person You know some of the stuff. He's doing weekend and week out. Is You know unbelievable. I I feel like every single week. he's got you know at least one or two or three plays where you know. The whole stadium is just shocked. at what he's doing but You know the I. I don't really know if there's a you know some significant difference from last year to this year I mean you know look look at last year we won like eight or seven out of our last like eight or nine games or whatever. The numbers are And that's largely you know due to the fact that Lamar Jackson is playing. Really well for us You know so as far as there being any sort of significant in difference from last year to this year You know I I don't I don't know man. I think. From the moment he came in he was playing well And you know like you said the it seems like we're you know as an organization doing so much to bring out the best You know not only in him but Everybody around him and you know this whole team. So yeah man I I. I'll just leave it at that. I think he's a winner and he's he. He started proving that right off the bat and he's obviously continuing to do so this year. It's really cool to see up close and in person. That's beautiful this. The guy hasn't changed especially with all the success and it's only going to keep continuing. I couldn't even fathom the amount of commercial opportunities. You don't get this upcoming off season. He's broken off by everybody. I don't think it's GonNa matter because of how athletic he is. Let's talk a little bit. You're going to be a hall of Famer and That's something that is not easy to accomplish. As a kicker your guy who has stepped up in big big situations and been able to rise to the occasion which is very important and kicking world the difference between good and great and kicking is consistency. You've been the most consistent guy in the history of the NFL. What is going through your mind before you kick a ball or you completely empty brand or you have thoughts in triggers that you're thinking about yeah man you know it kind of varies from it kind of varies from kick to kick to be perfectly honest You know sometimes I might be feeling just a little bit more. Whatever those feelings are you know could be feeling nervous service or even scared or excited or confident or a combination of all of those things all at the same time in varying degrees from kick kick but You know I've been. I've been saying this for last however long all of those feelings. They're they're important to acknowledge that they're there so oh you can put them aside and focus on the task at hand at the end of the day. The only thing that really matters in those moments is hardly what you're feeling feeling but it's Those one point three some odd seconds between the snap beholden to kick and just put the ball through the uprights You know and you know that. That's it's a little bit easier said than done You know you can talk about you know focusing but you you have to focus on focusing. It's like this Super Meta concept that You know I think the true great that have played this position or you know anything similar to it right like you know like the greatest kickers of all time time like the you know morten Andersen's and adversaries and the greatest closers in baseball like Mariano Rivera and You could you could go on and on with you know the guys who perform perform well in quote unquote clutch situations Crunch time situations. You know I think every single one of those guys they'd probably we say something similar. There's you know there's feelings you gotta put them aside in. You just got to focus on your technique you know. Focus on the action and not the consequence. And we've been fortunate enough to do that at a at a high enough level where we've converted and emphasize we you know Morgan Cox Sam Cook and and myself itself and everybody block and for us over the years. We've we've made a lot of kicks because we've you know kept it as simple as possible but it's that whole simple as not easy thing. Yeah absolutely I think bodily nice little trip into the brain there the guy who is going to be. Yeah you're going to be studied in the future. I hope you know that. And that's something that I assume. Um You appreciate and enjoy your in the moment. You can't really think about it going out for that. Niner's game winner. It seemed like there was little left to right wind. What was the thought going in there? Yes yeah so We pick out a small target line through the uprights based on everything that we can gather in pre-game and throughout the game for that matter so Going left of our bench Pretty much the whole game. There was the driving rain with Left to right wind. What's actually kind of in a sense kind of Nice about the fact that it was raining consistently throughout the game as you can see the which direction the wind is going and normally? You can't do that in our stadium. You just Kinda have to feel it and hope that you're right when you line one up and you you know you try to kick it through so Being able to see which direction the raindrops are flying across the UPRIGHTS Certainly helped us in picking are aiming point but we have You know this massive jumbotrons jumbotrons on either end of the stadium. And when we're kicking field goals they have A graphic put up on there. That just says Mt Bank Stadium and There's you know it's like a black background with white lettering and Salmon I picked out the right edge of the D.. which would have been the left third of the uprights bright's so Given the conditions with you know the rain and the field was pretty chewed up at that point. It's just about staying light on your feet getting your studs in and out of the ground with the plant foot Contacting the sweet spot of the ball is best as possible in trying to hit that right edge of the the letter D. either on the scoreboard. And that's you know that's that's what we did and we we got out of there with You know a very big win for this program. Massive Win Miss Model. It's the whole game. I love that we vinian Isaiah drunk guys. You guys go at stadiums. 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You know and then Sam Absolutely balances me out and You know having having those the just the personalities right you know having that balance out there is important. You know like Sam will out on the practice field. He'll be he'll he'll either. Fire me uproar. Call me down or whatever he needs to do to get me to put the ball through the posts host and You Know Sam being able to You Know Sandra being that guy and also being incredibly skilled at what he does as a you. Oh you know this as a as a punter and holder you know that's not like a eighty twenty job it's You know it's a one hundred one hundred job Sam being able to catch with his hands in poor conditions and spot the ball consistently we You know with each and every kick is something that I don't think any of US around here take for granted and I certainly do not. Well the the Wolfpack is very impressive over there you Cox Cookery tag team at triple a triple threat. That is honestly something that hasn't been matching this. NFL It's been fun to watch a couple of quick questions. Foia you go Anthony. Guilio here digs was wondering if you go to Texas just automatically get Matthew mcconaughey number You know it's funny. I did I've met him a couple of times super nice guy very down earth really really cool And and Met Him a couple of times in Austin at you know various events like he and Mack Brown and Jack Ingram Great Charity Group. Mac Jack McConnell. Hey and I've been to their event and Over a weekend and the work that they do is really really great. You know helping a lot of kids out but You know getting a chance to meet him kind of shoot the ball with with with him a couple of times and even at practices when I was playing at Texas he would you know he would come around and be at practice and share word with us but You you know having had a chance to meet him meet a handful of times and then this preseason running into them in Washington which I don't know I don't know I. I need to ask him about that. Like how are you. You're fan of the Washington redskins. You're you're Texas Guy Like I. That doesn't add up to me. We'll we'll have to figure that one out. Are you questioning. Yeah I believe that I am. Oh so yeah we're GONNA have to. We're going to have a conversation about that but no Having having having chance to you know meet him. And you know know that he is support of the Texas longhorns and everybody that's come through there it's really like woman that's beautiful tie Schmidt wanted no because it hasn't been talked about Not a lot but it has been mentioned a couple times. You're an incredibly talented opera singer. Is that something. Could you do any style of singing. and Are you going to release a record or to You know the whole me singing opera and everybody wants to tag along or you know. Add onto that. The he sings opera in seven different languages. And I just WANNA put it out there you know because you guys have like like a massive following so maybe this will actually to stick this time because I've said it a couple times before but being able to seeing in like a the classical style you know people just want to say sing opera but It's really if I wanted to specific and technical I would say it's the Bell Condo style of singing and Singing in that style in seven. Different languages is actually like Super Common. Like it's actually probably the standard I it'd probably be closer to eight languages and like so if if I was at the you know while I was at the University of Texas Taking voice lessons and earning my a degree in music and all that stuff right could be walking through the Butler School of Music and swing my backpack in a circle and I would hit ten musicians that are like significantly significantly more talented than I ever could be so I think the fact that I happen to kick a kick a ball straight a lot at a time and seeing in what people think is like a lot of languages I guess it's kind of I. Guess it's pretty cool soccer doctors every car. Listen you swing that backpack you might. It hit a lot of people that are better at singing or music than you. But you didn't get a single person. That's probably the best of all time at a different thing in also do that. Stop under selling yourself. I I can't even speak seven. Different accents languages. Well you know you might be right with part of that like yeah like I'm not gonna I don't think many any of the other music students at Texas were as good at kicking a ball as I. Could you sing. Like let's say whenever you're done here and what ten years however long. It is in old. Justin Tucker wants to do a country album. Is that something that you see in your horizon or are you done with it only to do it for special occasions. I'm kind of just going wherever the wind takes me at this point man you know one foot in front of the other and every other cliche could come up with And I say you know wherever the wind takes me that's usually Wherever my my son Eastern and my wife Mandar You know wanting to go. And oftentimes. It's Chick-fil-a let's pull away so I'm just GonNa go to go to get case it isn't Guac with with with my little guy and Enjoy that as you know as That becomes more of a more and more of a thing towards the Quote Unquote back nine of my career. But it's funny you know over the last like year. I don't I know why but over the last year I've been asked more and more about the end of my career and I'm like I hope I'm still on the front nine Still chasing the. You know like the Goat Adam and Morton and you know John Carney like Matt Stover Phil Dawson and those guys. All you know putting together twenty plus years of high quality football. I mean yeah I'll just I'll just keep. I'll keep singing in the in the car car in the shower until I'm You know at your twenty you know. Knock on wood that I can get there. That I can't thank you enough when you do that. Album excited for it. I don't care what year it is. I'll probably be retired again at that point. Ladies and Gentlemen Best Kicker in the Game Cam a guy who wins Games is going to have to win some here down the stretch. I assume it's going to get close. Good luck in the playoffs. Baltimore Ravens Kicker Justin Tucker thank you buddy Happening Bro so there. You look thinner than you've ever looked is that I look thinner. Fitter I should say fetter instead of Phil Better. Yeah I'm still I'm still gonNA like one eighty three point. Oh Man I know maybe it's I I've been I've been trying new stuff like trimmed beard a certain way. Probably that was it. That's all right. Thank you talk appreciate you got a pet later. He's so good at kicking out of you got to focus on focusing just talked about this yesterday literally just talking about this gesture because we did that. XFL Ball thing and a lot of people are asking asking. How many takes was it? It was seven seventy six and the first six. I was just throwing it right. I was just throwing trying to get it in and then on the seventh one I was like all right actually tried to get it in here like actually trying to get in there so you tell yourself to actually focus. That's a very interesting thing here. I'm say that because it literally just happened two days ago What a good conversation with? By the way he's going to be a country musician at some point someone talking to it might as well might as well he's from Texas. He has the look. Put a ball cap on him in the off season kicked balls and make a few million singing country songs to everyone in Baltimore. We weren't in the country until or chicken. That's unbelievable started singing. He is so good at kicking malls so good at it. You know. Every time he goes out that it's going to be a big and that's and when he misses it's big news like when he misses he actually has to have a press conference about direct like the last couple of times. He's missed they. Call them in for press conferences. Like what happens. I just missed. uh-huh okay are you on. That's what he missed an extra point or something Last year and he literally had to have a press conference about why he missed it he was like Oh. I'm sorry I'm like ninety nine point nine percent Sam cook very good Morgan Cox very good that Baltimore. Ravens seem very very very good there at buffalo this weekend. He's easy to have some tough conditions up their bills. Mafia buffalo is plus five and a half this weekend ravens. How do we feel about it like you like buffalo plus von Thanks L.? All right let me hear what I don't know if I have re Baltimore big spread last week. I feel like it could be a kind of similar game. Bad conditions in buffalo tight buffalo. Plays everyone tight. Josh look good last week five and a half a lot of points it is worth five and a half point dog. I don't know Buffalo's been very good. Yeah they have been very very good under the radar sneaky good to write everybody including us. We didn't talk about on that much as much as we probably should have. Because we have a lot of fans in buffalo we appreciate the bills. Mafia always give a lot of credit the bills Mafia. Who stuck with this team and it seems like this year it's paying off for them? It seems like the Buffalo Bills are an actual squad now. Granted Jerry world was up in arms air whenever they get the wind down there but they josh allens playing well. That defense is good. If that defense can stop Lamar Jackson then it's GonNa be close game that's kind of the way it goes. But if you can't stop Lamar Jackson Jackson by stopping Lamar slow him down right. You're not GonNa stop me last week. One hundred one hundred naval slowed him down technically. So he's going to do all six minute thirty the second drives and everything like that. I mean it's just. It's only a matter of time before Lamar Jackson POPs off but at Buffalo bills team has been playing very well up Sir do I do. I think the ravens are six points. Better yes yeah but can the ravens have a down week after emotional game against the forty niners and the bills else have three more days for pear possibly plus five and a Half Salat Betting in Wales and fourteenth rush to so I could see them having a lot more problems albums against this team that we think the bills are fourteenth against Russia. Okay so that means Ravens probably GONNA do well number one reinvent Amer in Ravens. Ravens are four one one against the spread away games as well great stats boys. They might flip completely. Won't interrupt this incredible conversation. Let you know that macari. This selling APP has made it super easy for real people to sell and ship their unused things. We all have things we don't use never users. There's simply outgrew but that stuff still has value. macari gives you the power to simply sell it ship it and earn some cash for fashion to toys sporting goods electronics. All the brands. You know and love. 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The colts claimed new Kicker Chase McLaughlin from the forty niners who was in relief of Robbie Goad The Patriots also put in a claim for him but coats or higher up in the waiver due to the record so are the Patriots wanted him. Because of Nick folks injury then had Kai forbath who have no idea how he got that job up now. They are without a kicker going into the weekend unless bulking get healthy. I'm not sure what they're gonNA do. I'll be excited to see. Maybe Jake Bailey. Their punter will kick. I'm not one hundred percent sure. What about for the colts? I put my ear to the ground phone. Some people and I was like excuse me. Don't you think I should be told like. Isn't it something I should I go. I want one of the only people that go a lot of big shows and talk about the Indianapolis Colts on a regular basis. This is something. I'm pretty well. Don't you guys think that you should give me a heads up. If you guys are thinking about bringing in another kicker and I was still no respect and appreciate it very quickly. I heard voluntary's Ni. He had an injury that sparked up so they were like all right. We have to do something but they did. Cut Another player to make room for this guy on the roster so if they're going to cut cut vegetarian or sent him to Iowa or something like that they wouldn't have cut the other guy to make room for the Ross Dr not talking. Nobody's giving me anything by the way which I don't know if I respect her hate. Ah I think I respect it. I guess because you hate rats especially hated respectfully. Hey I I respect it but I hate that. They're not giving me any intel. I've not gone text from the GM which I would expect if we're GONNA make moves but I have not gotten to. I didn't text Vinnie. I don't WanNa hear I don't WanNa put them in a situation so I don't know anything from anything. All I do know is that they wouldn't have cut cut another guy to make room for another player. If they're gonNA make a move to either sent him to. I are or whatever was going to happen. I would assume that that would have unless they just wanted to get rid of the guy which the other guy which. I'm not sure but for me. This is just a statement that Vinnie's knee is hurt. We all have seen the performances. What's this year has not been up to Adam? Venit Terry Standards now granted this past week. He had three MRS two of them being blocked. Only one of the block was his fault. The other one guy got in the backfield before he even got a chance to kick it. Basically the fifty five yard or you don't see a lot of people hate fifty five yards and he hit that ball. Well just drifted dinner right so the miss was bad. He's had a lot of Mrs Shoe though. This has has not been vegetarians. Best Work I would not disagree with everybody. That's saying that but in this particular case I have no idea how it's going to turn out. I have absolutely no clue. What are we got left coming Taylor? Four yeah four weeks left in the season you bring in a guy I have no idea. It's very interesting. About seven thousand tweets came to me as soon as it was announced last night. Like about this. What you say about this to be I have no idea? I have no clue what's happening. Nobody's giving me in any information which I hate vinny had an MRI on his knee. So it's not. I like it was my knees now. Granted I only hobby as a child was kicking a soccer ball against the wall. The side of my house house right. I didn't play video games. I didn't watch TV. I'd never seen a Disney movie until a couple years ago I mean my only hobby was just blasting a soccer ball off the side out of my house. So let's assume that my knees have gotten more reps in kicking things then possibly any human in the history of existence. And that's that's just what I did for. Refund was just blast the ball off a wall for hours at a time and granted. It helped me immensely. I kick a soccer ball. One hundred twenty four miles an hour that got me a lot of places you gotta travel the globe playing soccer strictly because I had to strongest like they always have the best conditioning but they would bring me in late in the second half and say hey POW need a big one idea would do that. I got a chance obviously pick a sixty five yard. Field Goal. MISSED FIELD GOAL coming out of high school because of this and got a scholarship to West Virginia. and Go and do my thing a couple of kicks air make a lot of kicks. Miss Couple did the. NFL made enough money to take care of everybody in my life. Basically so that hobby of mine definitely helped put my knees took a real beating through this. Oh my hips whenever I was in the NFL like your five my right hip. I thought it tore my hip. flexor I guess. I just had a bruise on there or something like that. came up your body auty whenever you're doing something that's so explosive. A lot of people underestimate the amount of explosion that is needed to kick a ball to generate enough force to get a ball to propel off of your foot in travel for sixty yards fifty yards things like that. It's a lot of explosion. Yes the thought of kicking. A ball is easy. Ninja the thought of not not just injured by the way speaks for a bunch of people that have been talking about football forever because commentators made it sound like it's easiest thing because in comparison to all the other positions in football all it is much easier physically than all of those positions. You're not ramming your head into things you're not blocking people. You're not tackling people on a regular basis. You're just kicking a ball but to do that. ACT IT takes a lot of explosion. That's why you take the average Joe and you say here's a football throw it throw it. Well no gains in back in they catch it. It's like okay. Here's a golf club. Hit a golf ball. Hit a golf ball pretty far. They can't control it but it can go a little bit of a distance. Give him a Frisbee. They can throw in baseball. They can play catch but you ask them to kick the ball or punt accountable. They stink at it. That's just the way it is so to say. That kicking is easy. I think although the active is potentially easy in comparison to other positions of football football but to be good at it you have to have a lot of explosion. You have to be able to move something at a rapid rate in to do that. A lot of your joints take a beating. That's why vegetarian unitary kicking here in what forty six years old is so impressive to me the fact that his joints have been able to handle the wear and tear the beat up to get to this age. Jeff Figo's did it. Morten Morten Andersen did a Gary Anderson. Did it these guys that can play in this explosive position. That by the way once you do you have to sit for probably thirty. Maybe forty five minutes and come back out and be explosive again much like A. I don't even know what it's like. I don't know the comparison really. I don't think there is a comparison to to it. So the fact that his joints have held up he's had a lot of surgeries that surgeries on his knees yet surgeries on his hips. These are things rehabs his warm up processes something. That's like two hours long long even for practice. He has like a two hour long routine that he has to do so he can go out and kicking not muscles and ligaments tear apart so the fact that his knees hurting. It's something that I would have expected years ago. So now I think we're potentially seeing the residual effects and I think hindsight we can look back and assume that there might have been something wrong with him. His body wasn't generating are acting on four cylinder like we. It has in the past but for this the Marin the knee the year that he's had I mean I'm not going to have to have a real conversation with himself and I am not envious of him in that moment where he's going to have to talk and maybe he'll come back maybe he'll dominate innate next year. Maybe he'll do all that but for me if vegetarians knee is very hurt and he's not able to kick the rest of the year and chase mclachlan's the kicker I I think what we should do is your thank him for his service for everything he's done. I'm excited for his future. I'm not going to try to lean him any different direction. I don't know what the Hell is going to do but I am a little bit worried that they brought in another guy off waivers because that probably means that he is not able to go this weekend which could potentially lead and others or maybe. It's just one weekend he takes softening comes back and finishes thing off. I don't know we'll see how it all works. And then on the other side for the Patriots like they have no kicker nick folk the game before he had the the appendicitis or whatever it was two of four and that was against Dallas in a close game when the Patriots offense is struggling. And they're winning these close games. That's a real issue for the first time in a long time they you have a real issue and specialty layering issue. That's a big that they've been through a couple now. Right in. Gostkowski was getting booed out of the building. There because he missed a couple of kicks turns out. He's got like no ligaments in. It's left me or anything like that. So he's battling as well and when you're talking about half inches of things we're talking about half inches things happening in milliseconds whenever you have one thing off. Offer one thing hindering you a little bit if you hit the ball a little fat. It's a Mr Left. You hit the ball a little thin. It's Mr the right so you've got to really be humming at things and it's now granted. These are all excuses. I'm making for other people to step up and kick the ball through. The uprights is something that they have to do. That's what they're being paid to do. But one of you start thinking about the minute little things that are happening especially when you're talking about there's something was such detail and injury can really affect some things and I. I don't know vinny has not said this. He said to me. I'm assuming that the knees hurt. Probably all all year. He took a couple of weeks often often training camp because he has been hurting. And maybe we're seeing the effects of it but I would assume he's not kicking this weekend because he bringing chased McLaughlin. It also magnifies how small the pool of good guys is available is because we don't see new guys coming out it's a guy like oh he's had two other stops this year. He's done this this year. It's not just like some random guy coming out of nowhere getting an opportunity. You get into this kicking. Carousel carousel kicking carousel. Where you're in a pool of kickers they bring in for a workout? It's always the same people in whoever had the best day. Okay you're coming. Let's hope if you get hot. Let's hope you get hot and if you don't get cool we'll take you out. We'll bring in another way. It's just Kinda like you're finding your guy. I mean it's happened everywhere anytime. You see a kicker leave. There's there's a good chance it's GonNa take one or two before they find one that they get stuck on. Graham Gano was on like three years before he got hot with the panthers now. Joey slides their grand pianos Prague and have to find a new home down on at the The buccaneers obviously solman problems. The steelers browns before they found Boswell. I mean the Patriots. I'm from this year. I mean it's very difficult to find because in these workouts outs in on the Internet. You cannot simulate what's going to happen. You cannot simulate that a game with millions of dollars. Millions of fans things happy happy. You can't simulate it and it's all in between years every once in a while guys going to get hot. Everyone's guy's GonNa get cold. That's why you can even see Tiger Woods has droughts. That's just the way it goes whenever you're dealing with such small things that just have to go wrong for it to be a failure. I mean these types of things are gonNA happen. People take it for granted but there is nothing like having a good kicker. You you know when he goes out is GONNA IS GONNA hit. There's nothing like it. Yeah he's so Nice College football nfl at all. Football's if you have a guy that you're like this guy's GonNa put the ball through last this year for the steelers Boswell had an off year and it was the first time in Boswell's career that steelers fans when he come on. You're like no here. We go this year though Basel the ball back he comes on. It's like we got a guy. Tucker they feel like that does only a few kickers in a league where I think their their team fan base is like we got a Guy Dan Bailey. By the way he was not picked up by a couple teams whenever he was gone through the hips. He had a heck of a career with the cowboys he gets cut there. He goes to work outs teams. They don't sign him so I mean he wasn't hitting the ball. Well now he's back to hitting the ball well for the Vikings and that's GonNa help them down the line I'd assume but it's tough you get rid of a Guy Jason Myers. WHO's with the seahawks right now? He was a pro bowler for the jets. That's last year. A Pro Bowler in these. Let them walk out of the building and now they got their problems. They're on like their insurance salesman. seahawks excuse me is just GonNa let that guy walk out of the building. We'll take him. It's a tough position to make sure that your securing very tough. The Patriots got no. They only have one. They practice Wednesday without a kicker. I love it. What a joint kicking question about kicking his leg speeds something that's recorded accorded by analytic people? I don't know they always do like ball speed off. They swing speed for golf. Yeah that's what I was thinking speeds That's where it all comes from that. Yeah explosion exactly. Yeah so for me. I was big leg speed because I couldn't touch my toes. There's some people though that are like Super Levers where they utilize the science and they have long legs. Thomas Morstead of the saints. His his hips are at my chest like his legs are so long so he utilizes these big old legs and get going for me. It was all just brute force. See how fast we can probably also. Why my niece's Justin Ducker you see those pictures we were shown earlier? His he'll is like touching the middle of his back when he's kick. Yeah you gotta get that win win you gotta get that leg. Do whip kicking this year but that was a very real possibility. 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Trade in guarantee could shit over there from Stephen Singer you can see while the other jewelers hate the Guy Bridge. Let's go to Tom. Era in Cleveland Tommy. What's going on? We're doing wanted us all right. How are you doing good man? So this is all the Pittsburgh in the room. I'm Cleveland born and raised PAT. You said it earlier in the weekend on early in the week on get up that you're born in Cleveland. You're born to eight Pittsburgh and vice versa. Yup My problem is there the guy like duck a guy like Juju a a guy like James Connor and a coach. Mike Tomlin boy I. I'm having trouble heating the US team walking through this voice. I know it's probably difficult especially like your team for yet again had so many high expectations and broke your heart and you see a guy. Like doc hodges quack come out of nowhere. He was living on a on a couch there for a while. Now he has a roommate. WHO's the University of Pittsburgh's video guy? I mean it's a good story. He's making his rounds around around Pittsburgh right now he's a let it loose type guy. It is very hard no matter who you are to hate dot college in the Pittsburgh steelers right now. Juju obviously is his Juju. He's going to be the most famous. NFL Guy on the Internet before. No time here. James Connor not only defeated cancer. But he's putting on for his hometown town and he's also balling out. It's very hard to steal is the only reason why you could possibly steelers is strictly because you hate people from Pittsburgh. And that was Cleveland. Blue People which is very easy to do so. I don't know what you're supposed to do POW. I just know that if you want to ask you north to have a good representative you've got the ravens but if the steelers can get hot and getting hunt they potentially get a wildcard all carte spot. That's insane to think about and you also have to be a bit envious. Mike Tomlin can do all of this with out Juju with out James Connor with out Ben Rothlisberger. They're able to do with a guy who quack quack from an FS. Yes school and they're able to win as a browns fan. You've gotta be like I Jackson. Now this I mean what are we gotta go through. Its bit sloppy. Yeah I was GonNa say you know it's funny. You mentioned that with Mike Tomlin. Because he's doing this with practice squad guys but our guys wearing t-shirts he gets his daughter and manage. It's just real I. I can appreciate that by the way I think a lot. More more level headed than we can imagine. Yeah I I don't like what that guy tried to do. He tried to pigs to disparage our own team. Give us a reason. Give me a reason to hate this team. I don't appreciate that. Upturn will disparage our team on our own terms. We'll need the big problem with Mason. Not only the way he throws a football but he was just a very face personality. We don't need that for Pittsburgh on the we're we're already hate edible rough on south side three and you'll hate Pittsburgh as much donner's scar hill stopped by. What did you say Donner Scholar Hill Squirrel Hill? But if you go to the casino they'll couple hundred from you too. I mean there's a lot of reasons. Eight Pittsburgh in Dakar. Jesus definitely not one of them. He somebody love I like it for the steelers Tomlin by the way doesn't get enough appreciation. Even with the wins that he's been having that have been very difficult to manage. You've got people in Pittsburgh with pretty notable phones like. I don't like Tom when but I don't like Tomlin but it's like all right. Those People Tomlin no no no no the people that say they don't like oh I'm Dick move for for that man for The niners he's my second. Calloway and Kansas Calloway's go. Oh guys calloway's might duck. She was a good kid right. Conway Dykes Jackie. I'm going to hang up when he called me what's opted. Hey how's it going guys Copious had to get holiday definitely copying that Mary Lloyd Christmas shirt for Christmas party and say. Hey Hey listen. Hey you need to get that soon. I am not one hundred percent. Sure that if you wait much longer it's GonNa get that for any parties making on on the website this this second. Actually because like I know you go fast Two part question real quick What are your thoughts on the chiefs? Winning and Foxborough I know like Nick. We are defense has really picked it up lately And our offense. I mean we have all the tools once again to take for the chiefs to beat the pats and who do you think. Personally he's GonNa be in the Super Bowl great question calloway right now. I like the Seattle seahawks because they're getting hot but the packers have been my pick for a long time which can still happen even even with Aaron Rodgers stating that. Hey I could see whole eighteen right now. which by the way has been like He's GonNa Retire soon or whatever. The guy's been leagues like forty. Five years I do. We do expect them to play another fifty or whatever he's just stating these types opportunities maybe come to a stop at some point we gotta take advantage of it which by the way might be motivating leading his team to let them know like this always happen. I don't know how much longer I'm going to be playing for. be able to play for so I think it's motivating thing so I'm not all the way out on the packers but for me. The the seahawks seem like a team that is going to be tough to beat. Especially now that I've heard Russell Wilson miked up on Game Day. I think that's going to be a tough squad. Beat especially with the eternal optimism. They are an an underdog going against the rams on Sunday football. If I were you I would go ahead and take it out and bet on the seahawks so for me the Sea Hawks in the AFC. For no other reason other than I like them right like now the packers. I think you're going to be very good. I think the saints obviously are very good. The niners are going to be difficult but in the AFC. I got the Ravens Right now. Strictly because it is December fifth in the Patriots offense has not figured it out yet they have looked amateur although they have won ten games in the last game that they lost lost they were in and they play terribly. You can never bet against the Patriots. Kansas City chiefs have a lot of weapons have a lot of things. But they've lost games a lot of weapons so I'm just not sure about him. I'm excited excited to see what happens in foxborough because it's damn near impossible win there but the chiefs have shown that they could do it in the past with a quarterback. That wasn't as good as home so we should have. No idea won't bend against Tom. Brady just won't do it but for me. I feel like the Ravens are probably the AFC super bowl represented at least flaws hurried. I can't thank you enough for listening to the show wherever you may be. 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Hour 1 - (06-23-20)

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox sports radio to Tuesday. It's our one Dan in the damage. Dan Patrick Show glad to have you onboard. Stay awhile if you can. We hear from BUBBA Wallis coming up in a little bit Darius Rucker stops by Brian Windhorst from the mothership, so a lot of topics to dive into, and you can be part of the program and a variety of ways you can use up. You can email. You can tweet. Say Good morning to chat row. Behaved today. Tyler the moderator. They're handling the duties with chat. Robe youtubecom science the Dan Patrick show the Fox sports radio lineup part of the three hundred and sixty two radio affiliates around the country, eight, seven seven three DP. Show our twitter handle at DP show. It was fun yesterday. I was sort of back and forth watching a couple of things including what was going on with Nascar at Talladega and NASCAR rallying around bubba Wallace is an example of the impact. Won't athlete can have on a sport? After a noose was found in his garage over the weekend. Wallace didn't back down erased Monday at Talladega and he was actually in contention late before he ran out of gas, but he had a little bit of help. The day kicked off with the other drivers pushing Wallace's car to the front of the field before the race and the picture was beautiful. Beautiful it was an extraordinary show of unity for a sport that is reckoning with its own history, and Wallace started the movement to ban the confederate flag at races now the rest of Nascar's communities, trying to catch up and sometimes people mistakenly think of auto racing as an individual sport. It's a team sport, one driver wins, but it takes a team and fellow drivers on your side at the highest level. You saw that yesterday on Monday we saw addressing. Racism is going to be a team effort by NAS car, and the sport can do great things when everyone not just one comes together. Here is bubba Wallace after yesterday's finish I know I should have won the race. Just the stars aligned for completely, but all in all we wanted today. The pre-race steel was probably one of the hardest thing I've ever had to witness my life from hall. The supporters from drivers from crew members. Everybody here, the bad ass fan base. Thank you come and. Truly credible to be part of this sport. He didn't win, but he did win, but after that race and he got out there on the track, and he said you know sorry I didn't have my mask on, but I want you to see my smile and he went over to the fans who were there. There were fans who probably had never been to a race before, and he acknowledged them because they were there for him, but. It was well done and I'm guessing Jimmy Johnson I haven't seen official. Designation on WHO's the one that kind of put this in motion of all the drivers? We're going to be involved with pushing the car up to the front, but I'm guessing the. Senior statesman Jimmy Johnson was probably at the forefront of this and Jimmy talked about it after the race we WANNA. Stand with our friend, and we want to stay with bubble, and that's what took place through last night this morning, and then as idea came together today and Started within the drivers, and then as the crew members caught win that we wanted to push his car down and staying with him. During the national anthem teams wanted to get involved as well and you saw the support. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, and the drivers are there every week. Unlike the NBA or the NFL where you're facing somebody else these drivers. They're all there at the track each week, so they see each other. There's a community atmosphere to that now you have rivalries there, but rivalries were put on hold yesterday, and you have these RV's. When we went to see Tony Stewart a couple years ago in Chicago. You can see his RV and then Dale Juniors over here Jimmy. Johnson's over here all in one lot the proximity there. And you saw that community yesterday. FBI is investigating. This NASCAR's investigating this and. You know if you're GONNA. Find out something. Today would be a good day to be able to announce something with What happened with Bubba Wallace, but he's working on a time for bubba Wallace I'm sure he's being pulled in a variety of directions today, but man I just saw him when he was there after the race and he looks great. He's young like that's. That's what you want to be supporting. Want to be promoting it. He's a household name. Probably not for the reasons that he thought he was going to be a household name. He's got to win, but yet a lot of people were watching yesterday, and if I'm NASCAR, are by certainly take notice of the number of people who are interested now this will die off a little bit, but he has the charisma. He has the look, and now he's a good enough driver. Get a lot of attention there for the sport a sport that. That desperately needs that. This program is brought to you by legalzoom. You need to make it legal. Make It legalzoom dot, com. You don't have to go anywhere. You can stay at home and the new challenges these days that we're faced with legalzoom can help you. You started online network of independent attorneys. They can provide advice to help. You need to make it legal. Make It legalzoom DOT com, couple of other things major league baseball. It's coming back. and. It wasn't pretty I. Don't know if it's GonNa be pretty, and you can write it down. After the twenty twenty one season baseball will go on strike. Either there'll be a lockout of the players will strike because this. There's so much acrimony here I. Just can't imagine everything that's happened here with these negotiations or lack thereof now you have to go play Nice. And it's got to be weird. These players coming back. Is everybody going to come back it sixty games as I said from the I don't know since my source told me I. Don't know when that was was that week ago ten days ago. This is all this was all scripted. That's why you get invested in this. You get invested for a couple of reasons. This is my job, but also on the fan, and then you start hearing one hundred and fourteen games that seventy five games, and then it's going to be seventy games now. It's going to be forty eight games in my source said this is all scripted. The Commissioner is ordered. He's under orders to stop the bleeding. How many games can we play sixty games? And we waited till order. This I don't know why he had to wait, but you know that's really a big question here of sixty games. You know what it's going to start. It's going to start at the end of July. But there's so many things that I mean. They hope it's going to start in. July. They hope that will end up in October. They hope. They got to bring in players from Latin America like there's so many things that they have to be concerned about. and. They was sixty games because the commissioner can ask force a sixty game schedule. That's what he did. Because I kept thinking okay seventy five, and then my source goes, it's sixty. Actually my source said fifty at first and I said okay. Fifty Games I think they wanted as few as possible to still have sort of a baseball season, so we have. Eight pseudo season here. But the owners were going to lose money. How do we say hey, we can't do this? We can't do this with those numbers. We can do it with these numbers. And then they go into the postseason. That's where the owners make their money. You know what the players get in the postseason. I think they get and I wanNA. Be Right here when I say this I got the details here. Let's see. The players won't get paid anything above meal money during the playoffs in world series. What else do I know on this? This is what they're going to do. They're going to probably take. They need each team each three or four days of testing, and then they're going to work out for three weeks so opening day is probably the final week in July. Also, they're gonNA add at least I think. They are going to start out with thirty players on the roster, and then they'll go down to twenty eight and then twenty six I. think they'll probably stay at twenty six, but they don't have minor league teams. And from what I'm told baseball is going to have. About sixty players available for each team. These minor leaguers who aren't playing this season you're gonNA have a pool of about sixty players because players are going to test positive and. Trying to make sure that you have enough players to fill out a roster and have players who can play certain positions. It's not just hey. You Got Twenty six players. It's got have certain pitchers. The D. H. is going to be played. Put in play in the National League. and. I guess they're looking at starting the extra inning games with a man on second base. Because you're going to have you know the this truncated season going GonNa. Try to cram all of these games in in sixty games. I. Don't know the number of sixty games in seventy days. I believe. And You don't want x eighteen inning game, and then you gotta play the next. So, they're trying to cut down on that, but that's what baseball has provided us, so congratulations guys well done well done. Can't wait can't wait play ball. If they're able to play ball, yes, I know you kind of addressed this already, but a lot of my friends who hit me up on social media after the commissioner kind of decreed that they're having a sixty game season, said the obvious. Why couldn't have decreed at a ninety game season a month ago, an eighty game season a month ago. Why have fake negotiations or whatever they were the past month? And according to Jeff Passan at the mothership, the commissioner could have chosen any length of schedule. He could have said eighty if he wanted to. They wanted fewer games. That's why my source said fifty initially, and then I saw where they were trying to do forty eight games. And I think the Commissioner thought okay. Sixty Games feels like. Maybe it's half a season. Does Not that but it feels a little bit more like that. You'RE GONNA have a lot of baseball. You'RE GONNA have a lot of teams involved in the pennant chase, so there can be positives here if even play. Because my source said. Nobody's talking about anything other than the monetary aspects of this. No one. They worked out. You guys testing positive. You gotta bring in the players from Latin America. You know good luck with this. Because it may all go up in smoke. All of this. All right mclovin. You've got a poll question for it. Yeah, you raise your hand. I just say one other positive. We all learn the word pro rata. During this thing. Yeah, I don't exactly know what it means he'll, but that was in passing tax rate I thought it was pro rated, but it's Peralta Corrado to Latin. Yeah, that means that's why he didn't say. Seventy Games would've had to pay for every game. Basically, so I already put up a poll because there was A. Heated debate that has nothing to do with the major headlines of the day for the most part but way. Way On this. Is this Jamal Adams yesterday? Question Okay? Okay go ahead. Let the public decide okay. Be The way for AIDS. It if you wanted to start a team, would you start with safety? Jamal Adams or kicker? Justin Tucker. Okay the reason why this came up. There's been a lot of talk about Jamal Adams. Value I know Colin cowherd was talking about Jamal Adams. He thinks might be the. One of the top five or seven players in the NFL. and. Mike, Florio and Chris Simms. We're talking about Jamal Adams and that the safety has more value now because they can cover tight ends like George biddle although I haven't seen anybody covered George Kibble, but apparently that's their job is is Jamal Adams even the best strong safety in the league. Is He better than James. Is he better than Eddie Jackson of Chicago because I'm looking at the top one hundred list. The NFL's top one hundred from twenty nineteen. Those strong safeties are ranked ahead of Jamal Adams according to players in the NFL. Who voted on this I've got Jamal Adams ranked thirty seventh on the list I've got Eddie Jackson thirty and get derwin James Thirty I. I don't know how you can be one of the top five to seven players. If you're not even the best player your position according to players in the NFL and I liked Jamal Adams I i. don't think you can cover I. Think he's and he's one of those guys. Those safeties in the box that are there to tackle and occasionally blitz. So. We and then I said well. Who would you rather have? Would you rather have one of the best strong safeties, or would you rather have maybe the greatest kicker in NFL? History and Justin Tucker. I mean Justin Tucker is the best kicker right now. His stats are. Goofy! I would rather have Justin Tucker because I know that he'll actually win. He can win games. Games on the line he s kick field goal. He wins the game. Now Jamal Adams plays on a team. That's not any good. But I have a guy that if we get close, I'm going to win. Or force overtime. How many players can you say that about? That are not quarterbacks. That guy gives me a chance to win. Justin Tucker I'd he's not even ranked in the top one hundred players in the NFL right mclovin I couldn't find him on that list, and I looked a couple years. It's almost like they didn't consider him in a way. It's not like I. Don't think they were dissing him I guess. Maybe they just didn't put kickers on that list again. It's because it's a list of football players Wa zing. Top Row Seton O'Connor comes alive earlier crash early. Justin Tucker's I. One of the more valuable players in the NFL. Yes, Michaela. When the bucks took. A kicker was the first round or the second round. You killed them. You said there's no way you take picture that High Luis. Aguayo I had because I didn't think he was good. You wait. You had scouted Louisa while. I broke it down Roberto Aguayo Roberto. Vile, sorry and his brother. You're GONNA Adam both. Well. That's a team that needed more than that, but I was all four. Sebastian Janikowski. That kind of worked out away. I mean I understood it. But most people rip those teams. Saying this is especially a fantasy football. If you take a kick or too high and a draft of fantasy football draft, you get destroyed I mean Justin Tucker wasn't even drafted. The right kicked the great kickers. Yeah I understand that because you feel like you can find one. Let's say if we had a draft now and you and then you were going to see if you really use a draft. Pick on Justin, Tucker. I'm guessing you would. All right I speak as bengals. Fan Justin. Tucker was a killer I actually. I'm changing my Tony because it was unfair. You get to the forty yard line. They got points. It was totally unfair. Anyway. You're saying plays for a playoff team and it's so valuable to have that guy. It's like Adam Venit Terry. Adam Venit Cherry may not have been the best kicker, but he was valuable as Brady was in those early years when they were winning super bowls, because without minitary. You don't even get to the Super Bowl, and then you got to the Super Bowl and he kicked field goals for you. And I know we're comparing apples and oranges with Jamal Adams and Justin Tucker it just. I don't know if Jamal Adams is the best safety in the league. And I Know Justin. Tucker is the best kicker in the league and we'll go down in history as he's going to the hall of fame. Jamal Adams to the whole. It's hard to go to. The hall of fame is kicker. Justin Tucker going the whole, famous and kicker, but. A you know when column saying he's one of the top five or seven players. I? Don't think he's one of the top five or seven players. He's a good player, but if you're going down, the list of top players is better than Aaron Donald No. Is He better than Patrick Mahomes? No, is he better than? Julio, Jones, no, is he better than Deandre Hopkins no better than Michael, Thomas no better than. tyreek Hill know. Travis, Kelsey no, Stefan Gilmore No. Russell Wilson No. I mean that's just a cursory look of some of the players here that they have ranked. In the top twenty there good player and probably will find out just how good he is when he gets to another team, because you really have to love the jets and Jamal Adams to tune in and watch a game. He does stand out. He's their best player by far. Yes, mclovin side question, but goody, who is more valuable to those great ravens defenses Ed reader Ray Lewis. I'm going to say ED readers. And that would get me in trouble with. Louis Lewis. There's volumes. Discuss written about this very time. No I know they're both equally awesome it. Let me take a break here I. It's just way too much to consume here. Nobody thought we would be discussing. Jamal Adams and Justin Tucker including Jamal Adams Ingestion Tucker. We'll take a break. We got our poll question I guess. FRITZY's working on bubba Wallace and. No word yet, but if we get him today then great. If it's tomorrow, I'd still take him tomorrow, but. I know. We have Darius Rucker and Brian Win. And you know these players gotta decide by tomorrow. If they're gonNA, go to the Orlando bubble so I WANNA talk to Wendy about that. Yes, mclovin pro football focus. Send us a long email just for us on this very topic over the Jamal, Adams. 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All righty, mclovin, you got a deep dive on this pressing topic here the value of Jamal, Adams versus Justin Tucker. Yes, so good people pro football focus set us a note saying that basically Jamal Adams is more valuable because he's pretty good in coverage and he's a great. Guy He gets to the quarterback whereas Justin Tucker is the best kicker, but there's a lot of good kickers now. That was the basic of the are not as good as him. He's doubling the best by far. You can find a kicker was kind of their argument although they didn't I don't think you can find Justin Tucker's. There's there's really good kickers, but when a game is on the line I keys, he's almost automatic. From fifty. He Wins Games any miss one in the playoffs I feel like he had one. Probably saw it was his only missing the year, which was the weird thing that probably so but. I, as I said before, I don't know Jamal Adams is the best at. His position. Like Derwin James's great as well, he gets maybe a little bit more publicity. and. He's on a better team. I should say yes. This is a real specific argument, because Justin, Tucker's clearly the best kicker, and he could win you a game from fifty five yards out, and like you said if you ask Nick Saban. I can have a sure thing kicker on my roster for four years a sure thing. He just wins games and never fails or really high end safety. He's got lots of high end safety every year. He has a high end. He's been dying for a great kicker. Why is it great? Coaches don't find great kickers because they don't care they. They just get a guy off the soccer team. It's not it's not a priority position. I think it's a bit of a bias by old school football type STU, but then they'll get into close game, and then Bobby Notre out his kicker and go now dadgum. Wide Right yeah, because you don't have a good kicker their. Fourteen teams use the franchise tag this year. The cowboys with Dak Prescott the tenth to sign his tender leaving four guys unsigned Barrett. With my buccaneers AJ, green with the bengals Chris Jones with achieves, and Yana can gakugei with the Jacks deadline for long-term deals. Is July fifteen? I don't know what we solved with that, but. You know the the argument or discussion about Jamal. Adams has he? Has Yell play contract because that's what he's arguing. Here been here three years in the League and I've been a pro bowl player twice. If I'm Jamal Adams just get out. Of New, York get Outta the jets. I get that. You might not get paid when you go to another team. If you get traded right away, but get out if the jets don't value you at your position at a high level and are willing to pay. And the jets aren't ready to win. Imagine you put Jamal Adams in like the cowboys would be great. Or the Kansas City chiefs would be great if you're able to put a guy at the back end of your defense, that has that kind of impact because you need. If you have guys up front and you have that hammer back there in the back. Ed would be extremely valuable. Extremely, valuable. And could be one of those. Paying dividends in the playoffs. Yes, mclovin if you added Jamal. Adams to the cowboys. Would they be in your mix for Super Bowl? I'm not going to do that right now. It's June I'm not gonNA. DO IT CLICKS I. I had tried to fall in love with cowboys. Last year and man was close. But Pick the eagles. The cowboys didn't even beat an eagles team that was banged up. Then win that division. But I do like the cowboys. Do. And they I think Mike McCarthy's an upgrade getting the sack drama over I. Love CD Lamb. The question is going to be that defense when it comes down to a big game and needing a stop. Is the defense going to be good? And just good Kansas. City's defense was good. Opportunistic. And the and they needed to stop and you saw. That is great as Patrick Mahomes. Is that Kansas City offense? It will come down to a defensive play whether you make it or not. And Kansas City made those plays. Against Jimmy Garoppolo Chris Jones made those plays. Got To have it. I don't care how good your offense is. Comes Down to defense. Look at the Patriots going undefeated. What happened? David tyree has a catch. Plex go burs wide open in the end zone. Defense. Now Defense kept that game close, but the offense didn't do its job. But when you needed, something and game was on the line defense. Let him down. mclovin! I'm looking at their desktop. They have a lot of big names on defense the cowboys. They didn't do well statistically demarcus Lawrence. Leighton Vanished Jalen Smith John Lee? They had my count on Sean Right, but they have some names. It feels like feels like an I. Think Coaching was the problem, but you become a name because you're on the cowboys. demarcus Lawrence was on throw out a team. You know the rams. You wouldn't be talking about it. He's on the Cowboys Vander H. He's good player. He's playing and Carolina. You'd go oh, yeah. The Carolinas Decent Sean lease injured. I. Don't know if those guys are great or they become. Household names. Therefore, we attach more value to them like place for the cowboys because we see the cowboys, every game national TV. The cowboys last year they were they were eight, but I have a weird look. At their season. They scored four hundred thirty four points last year. That's six in the league. There are a number one league in yards. They outscore their opponents on the season by over a hundred points over a hundred points, and didn't produce any wins eight. They were ten and six the year before with the twenty, two ranked twenty second ranked offense. I look at Dak Prescott when they win. He's great when they lose. He's bad. In that and make you know hopefully Mike. McCarthy's able to clean that up. Or they won't have to worry about the franchise tag the next year with that Prescott yes mclovin i. do have good news for cowboys fans. They did invest in Greg's arline. The kicker who we talked about this morning Lenka Trod. And they're not settled yet. They're pursuing Japanese Kicker Toshiki Sato as well I to bring into Camp I saw that headline yesterday. I have no idea. Where does she play? Where did he play? Okay play for a university in the United States. Let's see. He's with Japanese X League team for IBM. Big Blue in, November. He had a fifty eight yard field goal the longest in league history. I know idea, but. Airline they have so many names it. That's proof. It's the system. It's not talent camp unless I'm being duped like you said bizarre cowboys show many big names on that team. But they haven't produced. Amari Cooper gets more publicity because he's on the cowboys. He was taken out of the final drive of the season for that team, right? With their season on the line Amari Cooper wasn't on the field. Todd the team totally gives you a warped beliefs anyone that's on the Yankees to this day in the back of my mind like you must be great even if they're not and we've said that even about Derek jeter. We've set it on this show. What if he was on the Kansas? City royals? We wouldn't be holding Jeetan such greater. The accolades that he gets in the pinstripes. Probably not probably not are so we're going to keep that poll question mclovin. We'll keep for now. You guys winning big time Justin Tucker Yeah Sixty two percents. Maybe people don't realize you have to watch them all atoms. And then when you put I, mean it can be painful because you have to sit through jets game but Jamal Adams is an impact player. It's just the impact he has doesn't resonate with wins and losses. Just. It's not a consistent team. Yeah, polling, get switched at Quinton Nelson Khalil Mack poll question within weeks, or we could save that for tomorrow. They'll say Clinton. Nelson Aga- Clinton wait latte over clue. Mak River Khalil Mack was the best player in the league like year was Quinn Nelson is. I'm all in on Clinton Nelson Guard the Justin Tucker of offense, and yes, he is yes, he is. Khalil Mack third highest paid player in the League doesn't mean anything you game plan around him for like a week I like Khalil Mack. But Quinton Nelson is going to the hall of fame so he. Might he might. So it depends on what you want you WANNA protect your one hundred million dollar investment, or do you want to have a guy who's trying to ruin your one hundred million dollar investment well? If you play the colts this rush on the other side, get away from three blisters. You could avoid Quinton Nelson why? Why don't I just have extra guys over there on Mac? Side you do, but then you have I, don't know. How did we get here? You're right. I have no idea I came in saying. We gotTa Talk Baseball Bubble Wallis. All these other things the NBA. How did you guys you? Guys got the just Tucker I walked in on a pre show Justin. Tucker conversation. Oh. It was because Florio and Chris Simms. We're talking about Jamal. Adams value here and then Seton goes. Yeah, they were saying that you know. He is really valuable because he can cover tight ends and I said okay. I don't know if actually that's not what you said. When I used to I, said no, no, no, you said. You were getting. You looked at me. Right face it said I know and goes. Now, you're all right. I think how it worked out is. Jamal, Adams love. They think he's one of the top players. All that can't be right and she goes on and Florio Kacem. Service and That's actually what. You guys aren't scarred. Now, it's fine. You're not scared. You're not scarred. Yes mclovin what I mean. If you WANNA, go. George. Kit Verses No, no, no, we don't compare the NFL players now we don't have. Anything to not talk about Major League Baseball. Theory is what I think we're doing here I. Don't have anything good to say about. Major League Baseball. I don't have anything other than what I've been telling you for a week or so. You're going to play in July hopefully. But. It feels like there's a lot of things that can go wrong. For, Major League Baseball? And they got to move past all this financial. To how to sum it up I mean it's just a mess. You want to move past that negative play baseball and you have to sort of do this in unison in conjunction with one another i. I mean D. H. in the National League. Oh, by the way. We're going to a runner on second base for extra inning Games I. Honestly thought that was Goof I did not think that was a real role that was going to be enacted well, it was proposed I. Don't know like nothing's official yet. I think they have till five o'clock today, and then it's then it becomes officially official. But who knows what these two sides here? Yes, time in certain circumstances. The game can tie what does that. America that enough that it's a sixty game season. We don't do ties. That's always the rule in sports. No ties we're. We went forty eighteen in two this year awful. We'll take a break. We got our play of the day coming up. I just saw where Novak. Djokovic is tested positive for the coronavirus. No one should be surprised at this by the way. Because he had an event. I guess recently. and. No, but there was no social distancing and there was nothing. I think. Some of the other players who are involved in this they all tested positive, so they organized a tournament at the moment when the virus was weakened, believing the conditions for hosting, the tour had been met Yokich said in a statement. Unfortunately, this virus is still present, and it's a new reality, and we're still learning to cope and live with. They didn't have mask. They're standing together. You never know if I said Oh. Look at this picture. Oh, was that from a year ago or two years ago? No just a couple of days ago. The now he's tested positive here. Joke of it said he wasn't. Sure if he would receive a vaccine if it becomes available, even if it was mandatory to travel on tour. I'm extremely sorry for each individual case of infection. I hope that it will not complicate anyone's health situation and that everyone will be fine. I'll remain in self-isolation for the next fourteen days and repeat the test in five days. He was warned about this. Play of the day coming up next on the Dan Patrick Show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Doesn't this guy two bad knees and he's going to be a free agent. Okay. He's technically healthy. Bertrand's is twenty-seven. He's had two previous. ACL injuries, but he's active in ready to play. So I think that's we saying is has a history of injuries. He's not currently in okay. and. Trevor Rees is going to sit out but I think that has to do with family situation. I don't know if that's a custody battle. A court case trevor. Rees is going to sit up and I think you have until. Tomorrow. To decide if you're GONNA play in the bubble or not. Yes, mclovin! Yes so I was curious, I I was going to offer that as a poll question. Would you have a problem if your teammates sat out this? End of the NBA season I. Just WanNa. Know like! Why are you sitting out? you know everybody if you saw trevor? Rees is not going to play you. Go why he's healthy. And then you find out that he's involved in a custody case and he's got a court. Date here to deal with this. Davis Burton's I don I have no idea. Is He. Is He healthy enough to play? How much did he played the end of? The season before shutdown. Yeah, point, Burton's knee injuries. ACL's were in two, thousand, thirteen and two thousand fifteen. They're not exactly recent history, and he's also one of the better players on Washington's team. He's averaging sixteen points per game and shooting forty two percent for three the rest of his teammates. They get money. If they advance in the playoffs, every play around you get a lot of cash. A Lotta cash and Burton's hurts their chances to win and advance on. He's a healthy NBA player. WHO probably won't be on the wizards next year I'm guessing yes, mclovin day. They're five games back with an game schedule. I think the odds are highly stacked against them. They're kind of are now. What I mean I? I don't think anybody's giving them. It's long John Wall's not coming back now. And then they were talking about signing demarcus cousins. The Wizards are. How are they going to make a five games in eight days and the other teams totally implode. The Knicks ask for permission to interview Jason Kidd and here we go again with Hey Jason. Kidd is GonNa, get the Greek freak to go wherever he's coaching. There is reportedly some thinking this cording to bleacher report that whichever team hires Jason. Kidd is a head. Coach could have the inside track on potentially landing the Greek freak when he hits free agency. According to Steve Cooper of Newsday. Some teams around the League believe kid could be quote a link to the reigning MVP. Kid would be interested in the Knicks job. The New York Times mark. Stein reported the Knicks received permission from the Lakers to interview kid who is an assistant. To them right now for the head coaching vacancy with the next, but But that's that's one of those that if you bring him in, and then you don't get the Greek freak, then what do you do if you're hiring Jason? Kit While you're going to hire him, because you think he can coach, but you're. If the caveat is, we're going to bring him in a Jason. We're going to hire you, but you better bring in the Greek freak. That's a lot of pressure. Remember when t J. Kid went to the Lakers like Greek freak could end up with the Lakers and I go. I don't think so. But maybe if Anthony Davis dozen stay, but Jake kid bringing in the Greek freak. Don't they had a great relationship in Milwaukee at least reportedly did but I. don't know if the Greek freak goes. That's who I want to play for I think he's going to look at. Where am I playing? How much am I getting paid? And who's my teammates mclovin? It he was a pretty good coach. Jason Kidd, right I mean. He got gotTA developed Janas to start with I. Don't know that that's a total consolation prize to get him, is it? What do you mean together like? If say you got him without Oh, so you didn't get the Greek freak and Gut Jason Kidd I mean I. Don't know it. Right up there with all the other potential hires. I if I'm a team if I'm like the Knicks, I wanNA. Do something different. I mean everything win. But but I would I would look at everything and go. Let's not do it that way. That's how you get to. that. I have a hot poll question. I need a minute. Woman I don't have a minute. Because in a minute we'll go to commercial break. Okay, think about your answer. If you could help a fan, I can give you twenty more seconds if you could declare or help a franchise's fan base out by replacing their ownership, and you could pick one franchise in all sports to replace owner and help out their fan based. Who would you say it? So, be Washington. The Knicks New York. bengals Dallas Cowboys. Well Hounds Brown's All Right Well let that marinate a little bit. We will get phone calls coming up. Brian Win Horse of the mothership. 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Big Trusss

The Adam Schefter Podcast

46:58 min | 1 year ago

Big Trusss

"Algae that murky green stuff may not seem very useful but it could be the future of energy. That's why Exxon Mobil synthetic genomics developing biofuels from mm-hmm algae so that the trucks ships and planes that drive our economy could one day run on algae biofuels with half the greenhouse gas emissions of today's fuels keeping transportation tation humming well cutting emissions learn more at energy factor dot com. This week's Adam Schefter podcast. It's week fourteen of the NFL season and that means it's time for coaching changes and the Carolina Panthers made one Tuesday afternoon firing Ron Rivera as their head coach and promoting Perry fuel the secondary coach to interim head coach the panthers there's offensive coordinator norv Turner now will transition to special assistant to hey coach. While the quarterbacks coach Scott Turner will serve as the panthers offensive of coordinator and the panthers owner David Tepper will immediately commence his search for the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers and these are not expected to be. You're likely to be the last changes that he will make. You have to figure that these coaches there on staff obviously know that their time is coming to an end in Carolina. You would think the same of the General Manager Marty. Harney was a great man who used to work at. ESPN who we've had great respect for for a long period of time but changes have come to Carolina and that's usually the case once we get past thanksgiving. I always say hunting season begins at that point so it is with disappointment that we see Ron Rivera. Great man let go in Carolina. As for this week's podcast we are joined by the man who made the game winning kick on Sunday to beat the San Francisco. Forty niners the most accurate kicker in NFL History Baltimore Ravens Perennial Pro Bowl selection. Justin Tucker Kerr who talks about what it's like to make and what it's like to sing opera which he actually does and we'll be joined by the former first round draft pick and a Dallas cowboys. He's a man who has gone onto a great career at ESPN does radio and Columbus Ohio with ninety seven point. One Bobby Carpenter my friend. My colleague somebody I I have a tremendous amount of respect for annual preview week fourteen of the NFL season with ESPN analytics Guru. Evan Kaplan but I the great opera singer Anger Justin Tucker joining us now. The Ravens two time pro bowl selection a three time first team all pro kicker Justin Tucker who made the game game winning kick on Sunday against the forty niners a forty nine yard with no time left on the clock which just happened to be his ninth career game winning field. He'll go with either. No time left in the fourth quarter or not just in. What is it like two walkout there? Under those circumstances in those weather conditions with the wind whipping the rain falling everybody county on you. What is it like to kick a kick like that at the end? You know more than anything it's it's I look at it as an opportunity You know it's a blessing just to have the opportunity in the first place and then You know making the most of it just putting the ball through the UPRIGHTS is obviously the goal You know so as exciting or scary or whatever it may be the only important thing is you know of those one point. Three seconds between the snap the hold on the kick and You know just getting the job done all the feelings all the emotions You know acknowledging that there there earth and putting them away and recognizing that the only thing that matters is getting the job done You know has certainly served us well and it did This past Sunday but not feeling nervous when you go out there any nerves. Oh absolutely every single kick whether it's a pat in the first quarter or Walk off game winner Yeah I'm definitely feeling the nerves. I'm feeling the butterflies You know there's I mean there's a human element to this game and you know as much as we try to make ourselves seem like like machines It's you know it's part of it. You're going to be emotional and excited and scared and nervous confident. All of those things but You know I I. I'm very fortunate to have Morgan Cox and Sam Cooke throwing the ball an spot in it So I can just take that out of the equation and you you know not even have to think about that You know like I'm sure some other guys do I mean I don't have to think twice about the snap or the whole being there I just have to think about getting my studs in the ground with my plant swinging up through and putting the ball through the posts so You know trying to keep it as simple as possible in those moments Is certainly important. But it's one of those simple is not easy kind of things was simple is not easy and you're doing in the rain. Does them rain make it that much. It's worse it. Does it make that much difference to kick around here. We are watching from home and I would think or nearly making a forty nine yard field goal to win the game would be challenging enough but but then you introduce another element like the rain coming down. How does that factor yes? I've said for a while. That of our stadium. Mt Bank Stadium here in Baltimore has In my opinion the toughest place to make kicks in football Wow no I'm and I'm not saying that's like pump ourselves up or anything because we happen to play here more than anybody else but You know it just. It's a tough place to get the ball to go through the UPRIGHTS We've got you know wind. That'll swirl around in there in really unique ways that's tough to figure figure out This time of the year it starts getting colder and the ball just simply does not travel as far I think that's ideal gas law if I'm not mistaken and then Yeah you factor in the you know. The wind the rain the field conditions when it's raining really more more than anything. The footing gets affected so On that forty nine field goal to win the game Where the ball was spotted at the thirty nine yard line on the left Hash? The footing was Certainly less than ideal. So you know just trying to slow everything down just a little bit Be Light on my feet That's you know that those are the adjustments that we have to make To just get the ball to go through the post and is it more of a relief when you make it or more or of a victory. I mean it's it's both you know it just it depends on what time of day when you asking me like as soon as the ball leaves my foot and I see that it's going through. Salmon is nice. You know we all know what's going through where late in we're excited we're pumped And then you know along with that pretty shortly thereafter. Yeah absolutely ooh relieved that You know as as crazy as it sounds I get more nervous after hitting a big kick like that then when when I'm lining it up in the first place 'cause I think about you know Man What if that didn't what if that didn't go our way and we've you know I I say I like we make kicks and every once in a while I happened to miss one And I've been on the opposite end of where we were you know in. We're where we currently are like. You know this past Sunday and this week I've been on the opposite end on the opposite side of that and it totally sucks but You know just like the you know the the same aim approach will be taken this week after hitting a big kick that I would take after Missing one here or there or You you know making several in a game. It's always you know taking one kick at a time. You Know My agent Rob Roy. She told me that come out of college. He said listen man the the best way. You're going to give yourself yourself a chance to make a team. It's just by taking it one at a time and That's that's certainly served us well. These past Seven plus years. I remember that looking. You're facing you missed this your first extra point and I'm not trying to bring a bad memory or anything justin but the look of shock on your face was incredible. You remember that. Yeah thanks for bringing that up. Yeah I mean that that particular kick in It's it's one of those I I still. I still try to figure that out. I think about it every single day Still as much as I try as much as I try not to think about that every single day and I also think about You know in a in a in a football context. I think about all the things that we have done well over the years and you know when you add it all up You know things. Things look pretty good for the Ravens Wolf. Pack Can They will continue to do so to to missed extra points Altogether I mean that's pretty good. Just one hundred seventy five to one hundred and seventy seven. I mean that's pretty good. Yeah but you know it's not a hundred you remember the two hundred seventy five weeks. I mean I think if you ask any I think if you ask any kicker that's played long enough you know you ask the you know. The Adam Vinatieri's Stephen Gostkowski. And you know the guys that have Played at a high level for a long time. You know a lot of us are kind of driven by You know that Somewhat cynical side of you know that's somewhat cynical perspective of you know you know you wanNA prove yourself more than anything that you can do it that you know you can make kicks you know those Those ones that happened to get away from you know they they have a way of just sticking with you for whatever reason The exact same time you know balance is important and You know reflecting after the season win you know the time is right You know reflecting upon like the you you know the the ones that get away from Ya along with the good times That's also important now after the game after you made the cake you came in and you said this this. I feel like in the spirit of my teammates. Who've been up here to talk to you guys last few weeks I should say something real inspiring live big trusts and I'll open it up for questions? I now that was a take upon what Mark Ingram said so. Forgive me obviously you guys are lobbying for your quarterback Lamar Jackson to an MVP. And he doesn't need a lot of support. I don't I think at this point even another four weeks but what is big trust me. What is that? I wish I could tell you Like with some level of confidence. That's about Yeah I can tell you what it means what it means to me to to all of us at least give you my best guess. I really more than anything. I'm just trying to fit in. Yeah I'm the I'm the thirty year old dad now so you know I'm not I. I don't think I ever was cool. And I'm definitely not cool now I believe the translation and would you know be something along the lines of you know trust that you know when I say something. I'm GONNA do it. You know I think that's I think that's what it stems from. So you know. Mark added the The B I G in front of it and now we've got you know I mean hey you I think Lamar mark should definitely capitalize. Start like a you know. Maybe maybe it's a part of a new era eight apparel. It should be like a big trust collection that that should be dropping soon so that I mean that's just my opinion. I think that would be a great move. You're seeing your. You're thirty year old on cool dad fifty two year old on cool dad in fact even my producer Travis before I said they saying big trust or big trike what are they saying. I don't understand because I'm not cool enough to understand. Yeah I believe the spelling is trust with three or more depending on how. Uh How trustee you're feeling I mean I would even say that you could Swap out any or all of the SS for dollar signs. I think that would make plenty of sense but again you know this I'm just. I'm speculating but I yeah. I think I believe that's how it spilled. Now let's just get past the big trust issue. What is it been like to be around and watch Lamar Jackson this season? It's really incredible You know he's playing being at an MVP level and we all know that the whole world knows that now What really stands out to me? As a you know as a guy who's been around for for a couple of minutes now You know I've been fortunate enough to play on some very very good Championship Ravens. Football teams right Lamar leading this team You know like like you expect and like you would want from the you know the quarterback quarterback of your team right Not only is he leading this team. But he's playing at such a high level and I mean I can't say I I don't think anybody around I'm here can say enough positive stuff about him. But you know the the maybe it doesn't necessarily stick out as much as just his performance but his passion He cares so deeply about winning and playing well and producing In that mentality just permeates through the whole locker room in a really you Such a really significant tangible way like you know any any single guy at any moment knows that we could be called upon to make the play to win the game and that mentality you know it starts with guys like Lamar Earl. Thomas Marshall Janda and in the the thing is I just you know. Drop a couple apple names but I could probably name everybody in our building and Everybody feels the same way. When did you know that l'amour was different? I could probably early point to you. Know a couple of dozen plays that he makes where every single one you're like. Wow that was unbelievable. Like I've never seen anybody do do that before I mean I think it's every single i. It seems like every single game we play. He has one of those Chris Berman type of plays plays I. I should probably try again. He has a little Chris. Berman type of place that You know just totally like totally. You know electrifies electrifies the stadium You know totally electrifies. Our sideline So I it's hard even pick one moment. There's there there. Why are so many big plays that he has made and he is responsible for every single one of them? It's you know it's it's almost shocking. How he continues to do exactly that? Can you ever do opera in a Chris. Berman Voice I know you sing opera. Is that possible like seeing only night or anything like that. The Chris Berman Voice. Like not on this podcast. No Way I could convince you to try that you got you got There's a fee for that. Can you give us some sort of sample that Chris Berman Voice of. What is your favorite verse to sing a little go to anything like that? That could give if the viewers who don't realize how superb you are at singing opera a little taste of your special unique talents. No Man I. I can't do that. I gotta I gotTa keep the cards close to the chest on that one. I think I I think I'm I'm like You know I'm I'm trying to think of like a musical musical act here Yeah I can't come up with one but you know I'll just pop up like once every couple of years and You know I'll do like a like a flash mob stop performance so you know I. I think we're like a couple years removed from the last one. So you know I think The next several months definitely be popping up for those who don't know who are listening listening. Justin Sings Opera in seven. Different languages. English Spanish French German Italian Latin and rushing you performed at the Catholic Christmas respectively at the Baltimore Basilica in two thousand fifteen and sixteen any performances. Coming up here soon. Justin nothing formally on the schedule right now but But stay tuned stay tuned for stay tuned for what I that's all I can say at this point in time. If you could sing opera at one venue in the world what would it be Justin. ooh you know. I think I'd have to say Carnegie Hall just because it's you know it's so storied and historic and You know how many how many great acts have come through there for for years and years. So yeah I'd have to say Carnegie for sure but that has never happened before four correct. That has not. Yeah and before I let you go. I would be remiss in not asking this is Adam. VINATIERI's twenty four th NFL season. You I believe are in your eighth season out of Texas. You are the most accurate kicker in NFL history connecting almost ninety one percent of your field goals. How much longer do you want to do this with opera and fatherhood and life beckoning you know? It's one of those you put one foot in front of the other type of things and you see how long you can you know. Ride this gravy train with biscuit wheels man. I'm I'm I'm just happy to be here. and I'm having a great time and as long as on having a good time kicking. Footballs I'M GONNA keep. I'm GONNA keep doing exactly that I think my my wife's to deal will with How long I should play is I should play and play and play until I come home one day and I'm like you know. Hey I'm really thinking about hanging it up what do you think. And then It'll be That day plus one more year and added on. Yeah Listen We. We are fortunate to watch you and I will say this Justin when you're ready to make that big time stay tuned Announcement on your next opera performance or whatever it is involving your next chapter in your opera career you have an open invitation to come into this podcast to make that announcement anytime you want. That sounds like a plan. I feel like the tweet that would accompany that would be shortage close to the ravens have confirmed just planning spectacular performance. Ed Carnegie Hall Stay Tuned. We'll actually I think it would be Justin Tucker revealed on the Adam Schefter podcast that he's performing at Carnegie Hall filling a Lifelong Dream for the first time. There you go. That's that's a great tweet. The salaries are working. Yes something like that. I mean that just you know that. That's my old newspaper. Mind you know coming lead on deadline just whacking out of my head there. And that's how we do it every whatever. The news is the Opera News. I I I think. That'd be incredibly compelling Cuban Open Open. Invite to reveal that news here anytime Tom you want you just let your pr Guy Chat Steel. No you ready to make your big announcement and we will have you on another big announcement other than big trust you you you got it. That sounds like a plan to me. Hey just thanks time today. Really appreciate congratulations on the game. Winning kick and lots of luck with the rest of the season you got it. Thank you although I will say. I'm playing against view and ESPN fancy left if you WANNA miss one field goal for me for a minus evil let me ricky body. No Way I'M GONNA I hope I hope whoever's playing you know here's the Kicker Justin Tucker before we get to the ESPN analyst. Bobby Carpenter talking about Ohio. State Date Dallas Cowboys. First a word from vivid seats we all love a night out whether at seeing our favorite band in person or being there in the crowd to cheer on our favorite team with vivid seats beats rewards loyalty program. You can attend the concert or show of your choice and earn credit towards your next live event. Vivid seats is the top source for tickets for all the live events you want to. 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Daily Radio Show Columbus Ohio that I've tuned into every now and then bobby carpenter bobby long time listener first-time caller yeah. This is pretty exciting. Man I appreciate it first time longtime first-time longtime thanks very much. Talk a lot of stuff to go over. I want to ask you about is what is it going to take from my school to beat your school and college football. Oh goodness out of when you look at this twenty years is now in the making and Gosh. I grew up in a much different era. Where you know higher state was always great rolling into the you know the final week of November and then usually that was spoiled by the wolverines arena? And so I don't know paradigm flipped at some point like probably starting in about two thousand one and then. I don't think anybody realized kind of where the tide was going to go. I you know there's been some stuff that's been put out there three things that I think You have looked at this for Michigan. Beat Ohio State. You'll come moving forward. They've got to recruit better. They've got to develop better than better in game coaching adjustments and I saw some stats. The recruiting is is pretty close. It's I guess it just looks to the development at that point about the number of like first and second picks each school has had over the last ten years. And that's where I think that separation has begun to happen to the recruits. I didn't realize that everybody's screaming for Jim Harbaugh and say to me. I don't think that's the issue. Mike Greenberg pointed at a step before the numbers that rich Rodriguez and Brady hoke posted that Michigan. The records and Jim Harbaugh is so much better than them that sometimes the expectations are out of whack. And I just thought well. Maybe they're not recruiting as well but you think it's related to end game adjustments and coaching Hembo Paul Him. Akitas put out this stat for two thousand sixteen to Twenty nineteen four and five star recruits for Ohio State. Sixty nine four and five star recruits for Michigan. Seventy one second round draft picks eighteen for Ohio state only four for Michigan. And so I look at that necessarily think Jim Harbaugh horrible thing. I think that the problem is it's probably development piece and a lot of that comes from the weight room and the guys that touched the players. You around around. Because it's not. The head coach is not the position coaches. I mean. That's that's the training staff and that's really the the strength staff to be able to develop those guys and maximize their ability. Where does this Ohio state team ranked to you in terms of the great ones that have come along in recent years? I think this team is as talented is probably the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen eighteen class That came through there. And you're talking about Ezekiel Elliott. Who's he'll pro bowl player one of the best running backs in the NFL? Michael Thomas on that team who is breaking every receiving record you had. Joey boasts on that team who was defensive. Rookie of the year. I mean there was just absolutely loaded With talent and I think this team has a lot of those same ingredients and I would say it's just as good as that team and that team to me. It's tough to compare eras but the last fifteen years I wouldn't say that team is probably the best one that Ohio states fielded. I remember being at the combine a few years back when Eli Apple was there and I remember talking walking Timothy Combat and saying who's the one guy with all the talent you go to school with that in your mind is going to be the best pro and he didn't hesitate any turns me he goes. Michael Thomas musclebound up going in the second round of the draft and Eli Apple was right. Michael Thomas has turned out to be an unbelievable pro on this. What's that quick story about that? Because I used to watch those guys. May I head over to practice. I mean apples. The First Sean Draft Pick in my Michael Thomas think was the fifth or sixth receiver. Taken top of the second round. Michael Thomas used to abuse ally apple in practice abuse like you. I will tell you that like Micheal. Thomas is the most competitive guy in the world. He would catch the ball. You know almost every single time on Eli throw the Ball Adam talk trash to him and he lives a quiet guy. I mean I was worried that it was going to break his spirit because Mike is one of the most competitive guys is that you will find play in play out. I've never played anything with Michael Jordan but to me like hearing the stories. The only guy I know this comparable to that is Michael Thomas. Yeah well I was just sitting here on this current team that you say the talent stacks up to the one from two thousand fourteen. WHO's the one guy in your mind? That's going to be an unbelievable pro from this question. I guess these theater is going to be chased young. So I'm hoping you don't say him could sit chase shown One of the things. I talked to some scouts that come through and play for a number of different teams. Get to know guys as they they come through the last few your opinion guys on a personal level and then someone told me that they thought Chris'll ave the receiver who's a sophomore bus on the scene last year against Michigan that he was maybe the most talented player on that team and that included chase young that included Just Justin fields. JK Dobbins The DB's they have and you know Wade Okuda and all these guys like they thought he might be the best. So I will say based upon that and watching him play and develop that this guy could be the best that all of them well. How about that that saint so now the other team that I want to ask you about is you had a a rather lengthy? NFL Career at seven in seasons seven years seven years. And you start out by being the first round pick it Dallas cowboys in two thousand six eighteenth overall pick you were in Dallas from two thousand sixty two thousand nine so I'm sure you have some unique insight into what's going on there. What is your take on everything that's transpired here with the Dallas cowboys over the course of this in recent seasons? You know it's tough because you know I'll say this if you look at Jerry and what he's done Jerry Jones a great owner guys love playing for him. I really enjoyed playing for him. Oh He's a great marketer. You have a great relationship with his players. I mean he you know he interacts with them. It's not like I'm the boss and you work for me to tell you we're all in this together and and you know the struggles between him and John. Jimmy Johnson are well documented. You know some of that stuff happened with parcels as well where he wanted to keep getting in the mix and player you know in and player decisions about who they were going to bring in and roster construction and you know that would probably was the thing that really broke those relationships down. But I'll say this. He's learned a lot from those two experiences in the roster that they've constructed now they've elite players at all positions. They've done a heck of job him and his son Steven Jones that a heck of a job with their scouting department building this roster and there's there is some sort of disconnect at some point between the town level they have in the production on the field and especially reproduction and critical situations against teams. That are really well coached. I think Jason Garrett's is probably smarter. Guys you're going to have but I just questioned some of the decisions that he makes in. You'll maybe how he operates his team in how they utilize what they've been what they've constructed there. And so I guess you look at that. There's this disconnect between the product you see on the field in the Rosser when you look at it and you think wow these guys are all pretty good. They should be able to go out there and put together eleven. Twelve win season. The probably gonNA officiate need and so you have to try to figure that out. Like what is that gap and to me. I don't know if Jason not resonating with the players if there's they're not really confident what they're doing on the the field but there's something happening there that that when you look at it it just doesn't make sense. So what do you think is going to be the fortune for this team this season if you had to bet looking into your crystal ball. Well I think they're gonNA find a way to win the east. They may win the east eight. They wouldn't nine and seven and give away the rules are set up in the NFL. They're probably going to host I. Either you know the niners. Vikings the seahawks in the the worst thing that you can you can be situation. You're playing a team like the Dallas cowboys. You hate that because they are team that is underperforming. But they're highly talented and you watch him. PUT Games together. And you're like wow when they're clicking. They're really really good well. The problem is they're not click a whole lot but they're going to be at home and Jerry. He's not firing Jason during the season. He loves them too much. Wants to give them give them the opportunity so this Dallas cowboys always team makes the playoffs. I could see them making a run. I don't think that they will but Geria- wants to give Jason that opportunity to say hey go get me to the NFC championship and that you'll be able to keep your job now. It's going to be tough. But they have the talent to do it and they're going to have a home game and we watched him play in New Orleans. They played the saints pretty tough like they have the ability to go on the road and get a win. Heck they did last year against Orleans so I wouldn't rule it out. I just don't think that's likely at this point and you can't see them making a run. I could shafter if if you look at the talent on that roster man like if those guys play well there's good as anybody for one game. It's not hard right to see them. It's a and look we give you the formula. Now you run Zeke. Twenty five times he gets going to play good defense. Come up with a turnover there. You Go victory right and we've watched him do this. In the past. We watched the New York giants. It's come in as a wildcard like then you get rolling you get hot you start pounding the football you control the tempo you get ahead you let that pass rush take over on the other side and then all of a sudden teams getting getting a chase game with you and that is the way that they're built to have success in Dax been playing pretty. Well I mean but the their best when they're running the football even when Dacca's akkas throwing for four hundred yards heck he did it against the lions. He did it against the Vikings. They lost against the Vikings and barely beat the lions. They've got to run the football with Zeke. That is how all the team is constructed. A Win because it takes pressure off of their defense. Now for those. Who Don't know Bobby? You have had me on your your show every Wednesday for the the last few years having a great time joining your Radio Partner Anthony Rothman on ninety seven one the fan in Columbus. It's been a great run together so we got to know each other. I never spoke to you before for that. I don't believe right. That was the first time that our paths crossed. But I didn't realize that after you finish your career that you completed your NBA with a specialization does Asian finance and strategy and that you now teach at the Fisher College of business and private equity. Is that right. Yeah you know what I I got to know what I wanted to do. And so sometimes I was like listen. Don't just sit around and wait for you see guys. They have trouble transitioning so like all right I Former friend of mine. I picked with the colts in thinking solace. He's like hey he went the Stanford got his. Mba out there. You're this you're gonNA love you. You'll want to do it. You need to do it so I just dove kind of in in this media thing kind of took off and so I kind to put that on the back burner and in one of my friends was the chair of the finest department. I I always want to teach but I want to do it every day and really probably didn't WANNA teach in high school when I was doing this stuff. You know media stuff with you. It's all fun. It's used to talk about football and it's great. I want to try to give back and be around students. They keep young so she gave him the opportunity over there. So I did did last year couple of semesters started again this year. And it's been really great. I've enjoyed it and you know it's it's a nice break to from talking about football and then diving into some other issues shoes you know in dealing with kids that are right on the cusp of the rest of their lives. Out of twenty. Two years old. You've got a kid in college and you're like that you look at them and they don't know anything about anything. It's absolutely absolutely fun. What's the what's the one message? The one message that you try to impart to these young kids so we had our last class here this week before the final and I told him this everything taught you. I tried to give you a lot of real world experience. Things are going to happen. you know it's not always gonNA go your way you know. Life is a lot of timing and opportunity. You stay stay at it now. If you show up you work hard you're willing to out grind people and you hear all the stories you know like yourself and all these people with success if you just keep showing up and keep working and doing the right eight things. You'll be fine. You'll have success in this world because you're going to get a crack at something. It's just going to be to be able to take advantage of that because you may not know it's coming thing and you may not even know that was the opportunity to it already passed so I kind of leave that as my wisdom is the partying the class and say go tackle the world down and I hope all you guys become CEOS millions of dollars she just went to recount this in my first guest today Sings Opera and seven different languages. My second guess based guys is NBA with specialization in finance and Strategy and teaches at the Fisher College of business and private equity. And I'm doing this podcast. I've never felt more inadequate talking to guests that I have today speaking to you and Justin Tucker appreciate that my mom My parents are both from big families. They want to make sure we were well rounded growing up also play the piano a little bit. Do you really It's they used to make us do everything and make sure that we were like at least decent and could could be able to hold a conversation whether we're talking politics economic sports music. Like you never know this situation. You'll be in people's interests that'll be around you so try to have some some knowledge base and try to do a little bit of everything is so yeah. It's kind of diversified my skill set. So what do you. What do you do as Adam? You Force your kids to do all the things you hated growing up and you tell them it'll be worth it at the end. Wow how good are you at the piano Absent Flows. I can if I sit down and practice. There's too many things I don't I can't play. The problem is now l.. Is I work just like you season. You feel like you're on a treadmill every single day. I haven't got the play probably in the last three months. I told my my son this morning. You're getting pretty good buddy I. I don't want you to become better than me. So I'm out to start practicing place to Oh I beg all all the kids. They sues. You hit first grade. You gotta give me at least six years and after that if you still want to do it that's great but we're going to work at that for six years and develop a little bit of skill set in it and hopefully that'll hopefully that'll help you out down the road. I semi daughter to live in the carpenter household. Take a music lesson. Somehow it's It's it's not always the most fun thing my wife says I'm not a very fun dad but as my mom used to tell me all the time you'll enjoy when you're older you'll be glad that you have the skill and I hate it admitted because my mom and I bought heads more than anything it was right. It did help and one of the things that have been doing some research and you know they look at the CTE and you're the brain related age issues that you're going to potentially really have with Alzheimer's and dementia and people that are bilingual. have much much less occurrence of any of those issues due to how you operate your brain and then part and parcel with that people that can play musical instruments fall into that same category. Because it's I guess like its own language. So that's kind of my hedge item for the future so that hopefully I'll be you like fully cognizant of what's going on in my eighties. I gotta be honest Bobby as much rain as we've done together I had no idea that you are as worldly and has accomplished as you are. I mean that I appreciate it. It's it's by virtue by parents and I didn't always enjoy growing up the last thing any kid wants to be doing in the spring when nuhere ball's bouncing outside and people having a good time is playing piano for a half hour every day which seemed like it was four hours long. Yeah well like I said. I feel totally wholly inadequate today. I really appreciate you taking the time to join us. Your school kick my schools but you play the piano. You teach business got your. Hey Justin singing. I'm going to go bury my head into a bunch of sorrows here on out of touch. Thanks again the great thing about facts. They're proven like the fact that crude oil contains impurities base oil. Made from natural. Gas Is Ninety nine point. Five percent. Free of impurities in Pennzoil is the first and setting motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence where test using sap five W. thirty available at autozone in autozone dot COM cap. Hit that we bring in my friend my ESPN colleague the ESPN analytics Guru. Evan Kaplan and Evan before we get into this week's games week fourteen tell me what musical talent you have. Wow now I I heard some of those and I I hate to admit it out him. I I'm just we're just I've I've got football on the brain I've got. I've never played an instrument growing up. I can't sing opera. I can't play the piano. I didn't play the flute and Violin. Father is a great guitar player. That is about the closest says I can get to being musically inclined or ever we head into another huge week of matchups. There are so many places we could start. I guess we'll also I guess we should start with the fact that there are five ten and two teams and what the importance of by would be absolutely and it's only the second time in the last forty years that we've got five teams who have won at least ten of their first twelve games. The other time actually happened pretty recently. Back in two thousand fifteen fifteen. So you've got the five teams. The forty niners the Patriots the Ravens The saints the Seahawks all ten and two this year and you think about only four of those teams are going to get a first around Bhai and recently in the playoffs it has been very important to get that one or two seed if you go back to the previous six seasons so that's two thousand thirteen to two thousand eighteen. Every team to play in the Super Bowl had a first round by the last team. That didn't have a by and made it to the Super Bowl. Was the two thousand twelve ravens who were four seed and ended up winning it so as we shake out these next four weeks the rest of the season. It's going to be very interesting to see. See who gets those two buys in each conference because lately that has really propelled teams to the Super Bowl. Where it's been tough for the the seeds and the teams who play play on the first weekend to get there but it did start New England last year? They had a bye but they had to go to Kansas City Championship right. So that's the key don't even know don't need the ones both teams were to seize last steer you know so. I think it's just getting that by getting the extra week has meant a lot recently. That's not to say it's going to mean everything this year either and I think sometimes when you've you've got a lot of deep teams You can have teams like the packers teams in the AFC. Like the chiefs play on the first weekend. They could certainly go go on the road and beat some of those top seeds. I think what it means though. You've got five ten and two teams. We've got a lot of teams off to really great starts here. It's set up for a lot of big games down the stretch and into January all right well one of those teams that figures to have a by right now would be the Baltimore Ravens and they're going up against a team that I think is right in the mix of the playoffs. Obviously I think it'd be hard. I think it'd be a bit much to see them. Get a by at this point but the buffalo bills. We Have Baltimore Buffalo. Lamar Jackson First Josh Out. What do we make of that match up? Heaven Really Fun Game Between Two quarterbacks from the two thousand eighteen draft the first round and this is the first time no meat as starting. QB's and you look at their rushing numbers and it's it's fascinating Josh. Allen has more rushing touchdowns and Lamar Jackson Sixteen the twelve in his career. They're averaging the exact same yards per carry five point eight three now. Jackson has more rushing yards. But we always think about Lamar as one of the best rushing quarterbacks in the NFL is one of the best in NFL history in terms of his start and he'll break the all time single season rushing record for a quarterback this year by Liautaud. That's not going to be close. But Josh Allen. Leads all quarterbacks in rushing touchdowns in the last two years with sixteen is a fun game we know how fired up buffalo is going to be need to face a ravens team. That's one eight straight and this in a weekend where there's three really good match this. This is one. I'm really looking forward to see how the bills come back from. That really really emotional wind down in Arlington on Thanksgiving. It's sneaky. Good matchup and bud gets the extra three days of rest here to get ready for a match up and they probably need those three three days. And Sean McDermott gets to try to devise a plan to do something that really nobody's been able to do this year. We're just slow down Lamar Jackson. Doing we've talked about it before in the past few weeks. How good good this buffalo defense is and they showed that against the cowboys? They're they're the best defense in terms of scoring in the NFL outside of the Patriots and the forty niners and and they're gonNA have their work cut out for them against Lamar who is now clearly. MVP favorite are one of the other big match ups of this weekend in the AFC staying in that conference. Seven is the chiefs at the Patriot now. Last year these two teams play twice went down to the wire. Both Games decided on the very last play. What are you looking for? What stands out about Sunday's matchup lots of different layers to this one atom as you mentioned certainly the recent struggles of the Patriots and Tom? Brady's offense come into it but they're still ten into and you think about the chiefs and my one. My questions for this game is will the Patriots Defense be able to hold down. Patrick mahomes homes and the Kansas City offense enough where the where Brady can score enough points to win the chiefs of scored at least thirty points in three straight games against the Patriots so the two last year which they somehow both lost and then in the two thousand seventeen season opener. They're the only team to score three straight to score thirty points in three straight games against the Patriots uh-huh since Bill Belchite became the head coach in two thousand. I thought that was pretty interesting but he think about the Patriots they have won twenty one straight home games and I think. Tell me if you disagree but I think the result of this game on Sunday is going to shape a lot of how we think about the Patriots going forward this year if they win okay. Eleven into they've had to tough road losses at the Texans and Ravens. But they're still eleven and to win the division they'll have a first round bye. That'd be fine if they lose this game. Ten and three. Let's say the offense struggled. I think our perception of the Patriots really hinges a lot on what happened Sunday. I agree with that. I mean it's really interesting. Because if they lose that game Sunday that would mean that they've lost to the ravens the Texans and the chiefs you could say three a premier teams. They've seen the going to going to be the three teams who win the other divisions in the AFC besides right most likely besides the AFC. Okay so that would mean they would go into the playoffs. Having most likely we'll see what happens with the south at but they would have mostly lost to the AFC north champion Ravens. That's probably the AFC south champion Texans and the AFC west championships interesting. Well and it's interesting. We had this conversation on Monday. Night countdown and we all agree. There's still the Patriots. They're still to defend superbowl champs. They're still the greatest dynasty ever built in sports history. I believe but they are more vulnerable and people love to throw dirt dirt on that grave stone. Or what what. What's the word I'm looking for? People love to throw dirt dirt on the grave. You people have to dirt on their grave. But we're not ready ready for that and we're not saying that they're we're not saying that no we're just saying that this patriots team doesn't seem to measure Asia up to those elite Chappie teams and this one is still may win the Super Bowl. Absolutely we don't know to sing. This one is a little bit more vulnerable. The some of the ones that have won the superbowl in recent seasons accents. ABS- Yes it does Adam and there are in the midst there in the midst of the greatest run in. NFL history. You could you can go. Oh back to the entire Brady ballot check Arab but they have played in the AFC championship. At least the Conference Championship in eight straight weeks. I don't believe it's ridiculous. Thing about all all of the NFL teams across both conferences. Who would kill for one appearance in a conference championship? They've been there eight straight years remarkable I. It's it's incredible All right last game of the weekend that I wanted to bring up is the forty niners and the saints. Great matchup the forty niners. I feel bad for a little bit crazy. Like they've been so good for so long. The season and once Seattle one Monday night they felt out to the six seed six seat now. It looks looks like they're still going to the playoffs. Doubt that but it may be tough now for the forty niners to win that division and may be tough for them to have a home playoff game. What are we think of this metric on Sunday against the world so this is the final game and as you said it's been a brutal three game stretch for the forty niners home against the packers? They won at the Ravens. Last week really played a good game and now in New Orleans against the Saints Aints who also tended to and this is only going to be the fifth time in the last thirty five seasons that teams with two or fewer losses are going to meet this late in the season last time before this was back in two thousand and five colts already quench a number one seed. When they went to play the seahawks? You had bills giants nineteen ninety which ended up being a super bowl preview. Another one in one thousand nine hundred six giants redskins which they met again in the NFC championship so certainly a game where we could see an NFC championship preview. Sunday New Orleans and An- I this is GonNa that'd be a fun one on both sides of the ball you've got drew brees against that great forty niners pass defense and then on the other side. I think this one might be a little bit of a an overlooked matchup. You've got that great 49ers running game. which was really good last week in Baltimore? With remote start against the Saints Rushing Defense third-best rushing defense in the NFL. Not sure a lot of people would have known that would have thought that so when each team has the ball things to look for drew brees against that forty niners zone defense zone coverage average on the other side when the niners have the ball for their running game against a strong saints run defense. Evan appreciate the insights into week fourteen. Thank you for the time today. We'll look forward four games and we will talk to you before week. Fifteen thanks Adam. Sounds good special thanks to our friend. ESPN analytics Guru Ebbing Kaplan for his excellent insights into the week. Fourteen matchup should be another great week of NFL Action Special. Thanks to my friend Mike. ESPN PIN colleague. A guy that I didn't even know as much about until I did some research on him before Al Little segment together. Today Bobby Carpenter does a great job on the radio TV huge Bobby Carpenter fan and special thanks to Justin Tucker arguably as kicker is the NFL has ever had. I think on his way to the hall of fame one day and continues to hammer home kicks at an unprecedented rate. Even if he doesn't like to be reminded of the rare and I do mean occasionally rare miss and thank you the listener for tuning into another Adam Schefter podcast. Please join us again. Next week. We'll be back in this slot again until then have agree week everybody.

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"Hey donald what are you drinking today bra. I was feeling under the weather. So i'm drinking. Gt synergy kabukicho ginger. A i love that one yet really helps with my digestion and the fresh press ginger really does the trick for my immune system and it tastes good donald. Has this kind of bold bite to it. That wakes up your taste buds without being loaded with sugar. But you'll have to get one for yourself. Because i'm not sharing mine. Pick them up at your local natural food market or grocery store or learn more at. Gt's living foods dot com. You are listening to the dan patrick show on fox sports radio quiet in the man cave. Dan and the danettes. Dan patrick show yours truly here. The man cave some of the back room guys are here is well my thanks to them. We had quite a bit of snow and dance. Have a little bit of a commute. So they're at their homes right now. We're gonna have burgers. I think steaks and sausages are coming up this morning. I got a fire outside. The triggers are fired up. Maybe some snow beers later on and i don't have to talk to todd during the commercial breaks you. Don't it's a beautiful day thing. What a great day. Paulie found out that we were going to have maybe some brought in burgers he goes. Maybe i'll drive in. I go come on in after the show. I'll wait for you. It's worth the risk. I mean risking my life. It's a coin. Flip sunday night to push for the playoffs continues baker mayfield junior the third and the browns head to new york to take on the g. Men sunday nights. Seven eastern. Only on nbc. Coming up justin tucker of the ravens will join us. It looks like nfl and their tv deals with the networks and amazon could surpass one hundred billion dollars. That story for you coming up as well. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dpi. Dan patrick dot com national. Signing day was yesterday and the rich got richer. Alabama clemson notre dame miami all in their alabama and their head coach. Nick sabin. he'll join us coming up. Next hour. got the showdown with florida. Coming up on saturday night. I was looking back. I think this is national signing day. Twenty fifteen and these are just the a quarterback's back then number one quarterback in the country jarrett stidham number. Two is josh rosen. Blake barnett was number three. Cuyler mary four brandon. Wimbush he went to notre dame then lost his job to ian book Ricky town is on their brady. White is on their travis. Johnson who else drew lock is on. Here's the tenth. Best quarterback jake browning went to washington. Sam darnold's zone here so you you do. Have some pretty good quarterbacks here earliest quarterbacks who are still playing. Lamar jackson is the eighteenth. Best quarterback on this list. Brett rip rip is on here as well. Let me see if there's anybody else that you might be familiar with kelly. Bryant is on here but when it comes to these five star recruits you can say. Hey we got him. But then they have to their five star recruits. Coming out of high school doesn't translate into a five star five star success once they get to college because things change. And we'll talk to nick sabin about this when you recruit. Now you're recruiting. Somebody who has social media has grown up being the star being told there the star and not being told no or you did something wrong and if they have been then. How do you process that. That's the big difference. That coaches will talk about. It's telling a kid they did something wrong and how they accept that and who wants to be great. Now once you get to a certain level now is when it really starts you get to college. Ama- five star recruit. Yep now it starts just like the reset button. It starts when you get to the nfl. Hey i was all american all right now it starts. Who wants to get better. And i think those are things that you know coach. Sabin some of these other coaches. You're trying to see that in a seventeen or eighteen year olds is. Can you take criticism and do you want to be great. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address teepee. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle. Dp show live on peacock all three hours fox sports radio lineup as well tonight. Chargers end the raiders. James harden met with the media yesterday. And i'm guessing. This is a requirement. So he doesn't get fined in the rockets don't get fined and a question to james harden when he met with the media yesterday. Do you still want rockets to trade. You and if so why are anonymous. Focus on being here. Today was was was doing yesterday for being out there. I was just the bubble. Haven't had an opportunity to do a lot of five point five word but for my i got a pretty good so all right and then he was asked. I thought that's a fair question. He avoided the question. But you have to ask that question. And then there was this question about road trips to atlanta en las vegas james. What was the point that you're trying to get across when you went to atlanta in vegas when training camp was starting training. What would you training for an nba season. How did going to atlanta in vegas help you there. When the rockets were starting training camp in houston just an personal trainers. There's a point in there. That is so good. What were you training four. Because the word is that james would go to vegas and atlanta. Maybe training body might have been training at night because they have great strip clubs. They're you know when he's you know when you're dishing dimes. It's an assist. I think he's he's making it rain like that's what he's doing his. He's dishes sometimes there when he goes to the strip clubs there. Yeah paulie i love. The reporters asked a snarky question. But they do it in that like monotone james if you want to train. There's a basketball team called the houston rockets employed by train. Here anytime you want. What's going on there. Atlanta and las vegas. That's where his trainers are but all right there was an nba team in vegas. They should have the rights to james harden. He would love it well. I i don't think anything is going to change with james. I think he's just gonna go. He'll play. He'll still get his thirty whatever he'll get his thirty. My my only thought is if on the rockets. I can only hope that we play well and that he enjoys playing with boogie cousins in john wall. That's my only hope. And then maybe he wants to stay in honor his contract and if not all right now we look and see who we can get from philadelphia. He's not going to milwaukee. Maybe miami maybe brooklyn. Maybe i don't know but it's a story that's going to stay. It'll be on the front burner here because every single night is going to be a referendum on james harden and. Does he want to stay there in houston poll question mclovin from the first hour. Okay the first hour was. If you're the top recruit a quarterback. Which school would you want to go to alabama actually edges clemson and the update poll results I want to change the houston topic question for you. Which of the. Three pro franchises has had the roughest. Stretch the rockets. The texans or the astros all have their pros and cons but now the rockets are in trouble. Well at least. I a world series with the astros and i don't have to give it back and if i'm a player you know get to move on with my career. The rockets always fun and competitive during the regular season. And then they usually bail out you know first or second round texans. That's a mess. It's been a mess. I would say the texans dist- because it always feels like if they make the playoffs. They play at noon on saturday. Like the the the worst start because nobody wants to watch the texans. Play the rockets. Until i know who they get in return for james harden starting over would be a good thing. But if that's the case starting over and then saying to your star players we're running the team not you because the rockets created james harden. They created this attitude this persona. They enabled him and now they want to go. Hey you know you can't dictate what's going on here or you can't be hardy all the time or dictate if you wanna go to practice or not or when the plane leaves now. He's not the only star that does this but it felt like that put russell westbrook over the edge. He's like what are we. We're dealing with a like an organized. Aau team you know and you can't be that kind of team. James harden place heart. He does sometimes too hard during the regular season and then he's dragging in the postseason but that's style doesn't fit every team that he might go to if miami if i'm jimmy butler and you go how am i going to be with james harden because if that's the case in you get bam a bio tyler herro. Let's say now you got you know. Now you've got these players and it's their team and then they're gonna go okay. James is coming in. I don't think james is going to go back to is oklahoma city days when he's a sixth man that i don't know what happens to be goes to brooklyn. He's not going to milwaukee greek freak snuka the fact that the greek freak passed on james harden when they were picking their all star team so he could take kimball walker because he said i want somebody to throw me the ball. That should tell you everything about that. you know. maybe there's a surprise team. It feels like there always is in situations. Like this. Like gordon hayward going to charlotte. We're like oh wow. He's going to charlotte now when kyrie went to boston. We're like wow he's going to boss. Maybe there's an outlier. Maybe there's a mystery team here with a james harden. Yes mclovin side poll question. If you're louis riddick with espn who interviewed with the texans and his reportedly viewing with the lions which are those jobs is a better spot right now. News leaked out yesterday. That the espn broadcaster. Louis riddick he does. Monday night would interview with the texans for their gm job and also the lions. He was in the eagles front office. And i even said it after the interview yesterday it felt like feels like he's destined to get a job here soon in the front office of team now. He could stay monday night football. You know jason witten left monday night football to return as a player. But if he didn't. I don't think he was going to hold onto that job before. That jon gruden you know he had that job. Then he left for the raiders jong troy aikman said for the last couple of years. He wants to be an executive in the nfl. Tony romo i think he wants to play golf. But he's a good analyst but Louis riddick could have some interesting choices ahead and a good chance that he could be the next person. Leave the monday booth and if you get that opportunity to help build a team in. This is what he's always wanted to do. I certainly understand because it still feels like that monday night. Team is tenuous. Steve lebron greasy. And louis riddick it feels like if there were a couple of big names available that they would probably bigfoot though. That's always been the feeling that i've gotten. I don't have a source on this at the mothership but it feels like greasy and steve levy worked in college football and they worked wells team. Louis riddick bringing him in as well smart opinionated and it's just a better sounding booth than you had before but jason witten should never been put in the monday night booth. Never i don't know how you could hear an audition and go yup gonna put him in there. Booger mcfarland was more advanced in that situation. And you put him on the booger mobile wasn't even allowed in the booth because of whitten's contract where he was the only guy in the booth but i it feels like herbstreet and fowler are going to end up doing monday night. Football or if something happens with Abc and i mentioned this. This is According to andrew marchant of the new york post. Nfl's monster tv deals with networks and amazon could surpass billion dollars. Total value is according to the new york post. Nobody wants thursday night. Cbs fox nbc espn. They don't want thursday night. Amazon takeover thursday night. But the the nfl. This looks like it could be a ten year deal. And i think that. Abc sports you know. Maybe maybe abc gets a super bowl espn slash abc gets a super bowl there. But that's a whole lot of money here. The current approaches ten billion a year and broadcast revenue. Espn fox cbs nbc. Direct tv have contracts that add up to nearly eight billion dollars per season but this is a ten year deal and they're looking at one hundred billion dollars. Apple is another possibility here. According to the new york post amazon has the advantage of already being partners with the nfl. It owns the digital rights to thursday night football. Those games also air on nfl network. That's part of the issue. Nobody wants thursday night football or at least not at that price because it's not exclusive. You're sharing with nfl network and these partners are saying well let us have thursday night football and which i you know it's like hey it's on fox but also the nfl network. All right seems counterproductive. But maybe they're taking bites of to apples there. But i never understood that. You're gonna pay all that money for gay. I would love for them to get rid of thursday night games. I don't know if they will. But i would love for them to get rid of thursday night football to be fair to the players because it's rare when a thursday is a really good game but if you want to do a monday doubleheader that would be far more entertaining interesting for me. Then you want to do a five o'clock eight o'clock that to me would be more fair to these players than that thursday game that they've never been fair to the players to have a game have a day off. Maybe practice travel play again. I'm going to guess that thursday night game is adding zeros into the hundred billion years mentioned. Sir yeah yeah. Absolutely couple of phone calls here. We'll talk to justin tucker the ravens kicker and then in an hour from now nick sabin. We'll take time out from his preparations for the game against florida. Coming up on saturday night. Jeff in detroit joins us on the program. Good morning jeff. What's on your mind. Come on and big dan. How's everything going with you today sir. Listen i'm sure it was just by pure coincidence that the picture that you guys posted of james harden yesterday just happened to be from double. Xl magazine please tell me it was a coincidence. Pleased to listening. What james harden and the current situation. It's like letting 'em as running the saying it's almost as crazy as given two hundred and twenty six million dollars to a guy that you don't know and if there's one thing that i've learned from you. There is understanding if you wanna play the game. Do you love the game. You ask trevor. yesterday it's okay to say you want when you come back and you tell your fan base. This wasn't the here for us to win. I don't think it was a championship of bus. Here i'm not giving you two hundred and twenty six million paul george ridiculous in fairness to paul george. I don't think he got to twenty-six like one ninety five jeff. But thank you for the phone call. Jeff milwaukee then. We'll take a break. Hey jeff i'll tell you what you're asking about yesterday with janas. Yana thing is good. Thing is a good thing for the nba. Because we have enough drama in the league. Whether it's the manufactured nonsense lebron crazy re especially hard and honest is good for actual basketball and we need that from time to time and i was also wondering why you've thought pardon would be a good soldier when a guy is going to different cities to party than where they actually travel proves. Get practice schedules as jersey in the rafters of the strip club. That doesn't necessarily say player to be well. I don't know. I thought he might be a good soldier so he could behind the scenes. Say look i'm going to do everything that you want me to do. But i want outta here instead of going to come in. I might be out of shape. And i'm not going to be a good soldier. I'm just going to go out there and play and i'll fulfill my duties. I'll talk to the media. But i won't say anything. I thought that maybe they would be able to approach it like that. And maybe they still can. But it doesn't feel like it's going to end well there in houston and in fairness to james harden. He's not the only one who goes to strip clubs and lives the lifestyle that he does. I mean there other players. There are other people who do this it. James harden has never hidden the fact that that's part of who he is in what he does. I can't argue with what he does during the regular season like. I mean that's his style you've enabled his style. He loves to shoot. He's the most unstoppable score that i've seen in a long time. I don't want him on my team. I love watching him and when it comes to the playoffs they usually bail out early now. Does he go to a team. That already has stars. And how does he act. What happens when things don't go his way. That's what would make me really nervous about james harden. He's had his way for eight years. He got he got to decide. If kevin mchale stayed on his head coach. He got to decide chris. Paul was going to stay in. Houston he got to decide if they wanted russell westbrook now he goes to another team and he doesn't get to decide anything that plane leaves when they you know everybody else wants it to leave. Film study starts when the team says it starts. There's practice for everybody like that's what would really concern me. James harden has to understand. This can get me out of houston. But how does that affect the team. That i might be going to because they might go and i would. Do i want this. Because i don't even know what i'm getting here. If miami a young structured team played well great team chemistry. And i bring that in if i go to brooklyn. I'm not the star. It's it's kyrie's team right and then it's katie's team and then i'm there's the third guy am i okay with that. Those are the questions that i would have absolutely more phone calls coming up. Justin tucker the ravens kicker who is headed to the hall of fame by the way man. We're going to have quite a morning. Feast here just me in the back room is got the burgers got some braatz. Got the fire burning snow to wonder that. I feel like jimmy stewart. And it's a wonderful life. Marry larry assadi. Oh that's what. I said when i walked in today and the only person there to greet me was the big german. But it was okay. I threw myself into his arms. And i said i'm home show so we'll take a break. We'll come back with justin tucker right after this on the dan. Patrick show sleepnumber. Sleep number. Sleepnumber you know what i did last night. Talked it down to a seventy five. Oh yeah but the bed is heated. So snow was falling the edit and you know the end of the bed gets heated. Got everything there got a light got lights on the side so you get up in the middle of the night you come back. You're not banging into anything. They thought of everything. I can raise the bed if i want to. I raise the roof but was that safety to go from one hundred seventy five so fast if you've got to kind of go garage. No no okay. I think i'm okay. Okay i mean look as checking on the amount of energy got today. You're crazy amount of energy. And i got a great night's sleep tom. I'm the envy of the neighborhood i am. I think there are people when they see me. Come outside and i'm skipping. I'm getting the newspaper. Then like dan patrick in an idea say another great night's sleep so happy of the sleep number three sixty smart bed. Save up to seven hundred dollars on that plus special financing. You can check out at sleepnumber stores or seat number dot com science patrick sleepnumber the officials sleep and wellness partner of the nfl. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us. Live every weekday morning nine to noon eastern or six to nine pacific on fox sports radio. Find your local station for the dan. 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Nick sabin join his coming up next hour. There are a lot of reasons to like. Justin tucker. He's going to go into the hall of fame. He's clutch and he's a winner. He's got great hair and he's also a traeger guy so there's a lot of things to love about justin tucker the ravens placekicker joins us on the program. Good morning justin. How are you. I'm doing well. Thanks for a quite the intro much. Appreciate it especially with the hair thing. Yeah i actually spent some time on it this morning. Do you do your hair before a game. Before the covid era it was it was a consideration. But now i'm kinda just let veered go and i haven't got a haircut in quite a while now because i'm trying to avoid close contacts with as many people as possible so I mean yeah like you know about a year ago. I was thinking okay. Well on standing. Next to morgan in san randy during the national anthem. Know like those are sweet pictures that we won't have so nature. The web is tight but this this year. The not really not really that concerned. Explain to me if i've never kicked a field goal before and you wanted to teach me how to kick a field goal. Where do we start. Thank you got to start with the probably the most important principle in all in all sports that involve a ball. Keep your eye on the ball. It's common theme in baseball. Tennis soccer football So what. I said the other night after the game to just try to keep it as simple as possible in moments where so many things can be going through your head. You've got see all to kick the ball but you can check blind as simple as that. You could kick blindfold right. I don't know if i could kick blindfolded with nearly as much confidence or and or accuracy in power as if i voted but you know i know i know it's possible. Seen pat mcafee hit like a forty seven yarder set a guinness world records. Several years ago kicking blindfolded. So i'll leave the only trick shots to the guys who are who are better at those way. That's the guinness record of forty yard. It's forty soften. And i'm pretty sure has the record. So shouts a patent fee. Young always doing it for the brand. But i'm pretty sure. He has a guinness world record. Why don't you go out this afternoon. When this is over with and just blow him out of the books. I mean come on. It's a little snowy out here and you don't have a practice indoor practice facility. Oh well that's no fun. It's it's poor down snow. You got to get out. So i still like your chances even in the snow. Explain to me how dion sanders became your idol. Is that fair to sex hughes. Definitely one of my favorite players growing up as a little guy. So i grew up in austin texas in my family would always watch the cowboys on sunday afternoons. And i just love like the swag and like this. You know the the the attitude that that prime brought to the game. I think everybody can appreciate that about prime so Yeah when. I was in like first second third grade. We'd play football at recess. And i would always have like my cowboys do rag bandanna tied up and i would always play defense so i Would try to try to pick off as many passes. I could return as many points as i could in thirty minute recess. Break then at the water fountain on the way like it was like nobody's business but what happens snow. You get to the point. Where you you're a kicker like is it. does it feel like it's a demotion that you you know defensive back or maybe wanna play wide receiver. And then you're a kicker and you know how the other players are gonna label you or at least see your kicker. How did you know no not at all that was never concern or consideration of mine I mean maybe maybe. I'm wired a little different but i was never really concerned about any of my teammates or coaches. Viewing me differently because of the position. I clay like that's to me. That's one of the cool things about the sport of balls. You have so many different types of athletes. Probably the whitest of ray of types of athletes on the field at any given time compared to any other sport. So you know in in basketball you know in all likelihood you're taller athletes In in We froze up something he never does on the field. Or he's making us think about his comedy. I know he had me. Because i'm going. Okay all right all right his last comic west. If anyone else wait you froze up you. I don't know what the deal is. I'm in my basement right next to the modem i should have pretty good wi fi which in the basement so this is. This is kind of our catchall room right now. Previous owner used this as his office. I don't really have a much practical use for your traditional office. But right now we got just like a sofa in here in that Let's see it at my aunt. That's that's not my drum set that's Mike my four year old son's drum set. Oh we got a tv on the ground a lead. What what can you play on the guitar. What can you play. I could carry a tune. I'm not really sing. I know that can you. Can you fire up the there. I i could. I mean you really want too. That's fired up here. i know you can saying. But let's let's just pros the kicker. You're never supposed to freeze the kicker. I just froze justin tucker and he's gonna come through here once again. He a full reset as we like to say in the business the ravens eight and five and right now half came back in the wild card number three dolphins in the tiebreaking department. Justin tucker who is a future hall of famer joining us on the program from his basement with his guitar. Let me see dan. What's your go-to which are is. I'm not really a a more of like a rhythm like con rhythm kind of guitarist and try to rip some sweet vocals over that. I mean like i like i like eight hair metal type of stuff. You know ananta like third eye blind like post you know. Coast grunge like ninety s era like nirvana. It's okay if you had a walkup song when you went out to kick would you pick. That's a tough one off the top of my head. Maybe hungry like the wolf. You know because we got the whole back out morning. Sam cooke myself plus song is just like many people pick sarande iran. Is there walkup song but well done by just horrible. Ever say anything to you before you go out for a potential game winning kick typically. No one says anything to me Kind of kind of prefer it that way. I'm kinda and i'm kind of in my own little world for you. Know the the thirty some odd seconds leading up to a You know especially in important like at the end of the game I kind of just among alone with my thoughts in kind of get myself. Focus than in the zone. He will then Every once in a while someone will come in. Come up to me and say somethin' Usually forget whatever it was they said it immediately and just go out there trying to make the check but now if if if anybody is going to say something to me it's usually Randy brown or kicking coach It won't be like right before the kid but it'll be home. First or second down in hills he'll say It's usually just like nuts and bolts type of stuff that's like are we got a pretty significant wind just play. You're playing ball. The right third quarter. Let come back in. Just hit your mom in in. It's really nothing to you. Know revolution by any means but just hearing something as simple as that kind of help reminds me not to over. Think it not to get too emotionally. Attached to whatever's happening or whatever will happen after my foot hits the ball. The only the only thing that really matters is the one point. Three seconds between when morgan throws back when sam spots Minutes just seeing the mall in hitting the ball you have. Six career tackles which the best one. 'cause mcafee used to try to blow people up blow. Say none say none of them. Because if i'm having to make a tackle that that's usually indicative of. I didn't kick the ball well enough to ensure that the return the returner was stopped inside the twenty year. Twenty five so. No you know what i like to think of it i did. I had one. That was kinda sweet. So in pittsburgh on Playing nighttime prime gain a prime time game a couple years back Split went down toward the open end of the stadium and the returner on muffed the ball down there at the goal line and The timing of the return was all thrown off. Our coverage team was like had surrounded him inside the five yard line and somehow he squeezed out of their bounced it in a tackle the guy at the nine yard line so typically when your kickers making tackles it's at like thirty thirty five yard line and it's after or he's not making its apple in the guys you run and pass them like force like all the way through the end zone through the tunnel at the other end of the stadium which is not good but you know every once in i happen to have a tackle inside the ten yard line so i feel like that like it i lend. What's the one time the worst beating you got after kicking the game winning field goal because like you know sometimes we look at those kickers and everybody wants to say. Congratulations to jab one. Where you guys stop it hurts. I mean yeah. I'm not built like most of my teammates. I'm probably pound for pound like the smallest guy on a team even though in like regular normal society. If you wanna call it that. I'm like a one one eighty three so i'm not like a super little guy bindings but in the football world the i am let's see like at texas When we played texas. Am on thanksgiving night. My senior year kicked game winner and started running towards our sideline. like this on our sideline. it's just emptying entire teen is running out towards minneola. Where where you know. We're we're all at and kenny. Vaccaro outstanding professional safety now outstanding safety then. He is running full speed with a look in his eye. Like i'm taking this an a horse collar tackles neon the of dog pile thankfully. I didn't shred both of my knees or anything else ambassador But i remember like being at the bottom of the pile just in pain And also very that. We had just made the game winning jet like i remember coming up from the pile. Just like gasping for air Blood coming out of my nose. But i mean. Hey it's all in a in a kinda crazy way like that stuff. Those experiences are white. Play the game. You know celebrating when your teammates with absolute reckless. Abandon his one of the greatest things about playing playing a team sport and winning in big moments. It's great to talk to you and congrats on the success. So far and Hopefully you get into the postseason to make some more of those game. Winning kicks but Thanks for joining us. Justin thanks for playing along literally playing along with a source. Justin tucker just turned thirty one. He's gonna be kicking for quite some time and he doesn't miss. I was looking at some numbers. Here with justin tucker. He makes ninety percent of his field goals. He is twenty one of twenty two in the playoffs in the last two minutes of a fourth quarter or overtime that would be it. Looks up to or admires adam. Terry you know when you think of hall of fame kickers and we don't have that many in the hall of fame now morten andersen just got in and rightfully so but viteri is going to go in and Justin tucker's going to go in as well. We just need to come up with a nickname for him. He's called like jay. Talk like greg. The legs arline now. That's a nickname. It doesn't jay talk. I think somebody said od automatic took so instead of automatic automatic. I this is a new. No no kind of. That's not acceptable. Wait a minute here. i got mark. Todd just sent me my headlines. Do you guys want to get you know. I'll take a break. I'll have you guests. Todd sent me mock headlines. And i'll see if you can guess what the mock headline guys know how to sell it. I just found my barrel. Well what happens. Is i read the first mock headline and that's where i go. Why let me take. Let me take a break. Take a break and we'll see if you can guess what. The topic is for his headline todd. I'll let you do this opportunity for change the station basically it was hear and and then next week todd does his christmas holiday sports that would be wednesday december twenty third and less than a week. Now i'm going to give people the option. If they're in a place that got hit by the nor'easter. Would you rather go out and shovel snow or listen to todd's mock headlines unnecessarily jacob break back after this thanks for listening to the dan patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream it live on the peacock out as more places reopened. We safely enjoy summer. Quality sleep is more important than ever and not only natural immunity booster it also helps with energy and recovery sleep prepares you to be more balanced emotionally. People are beginning to realize how important sleep in general health and wellbeing. People generally aim for seven to eight hours of sleep per night. Here's some tips for a great night's sleep. Keep your bedroom temperature created before bed routine to help. Calm your mind. Compared to average sleeper number bed owners enjoy almost an hour. 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That's the cleaning authority dot biz become your communities authority on cleaning at the cleaning authority. I was doing a little research which we try not to do on this program. The farthest blindfolded american football field goal is forty. Five yards achieve by davis brief from hanover. New hampshire back in two thousand eighteen. He is a been kicking since fifth grade. And he wiped out the previous record holder. Pat mcafee justin tucker should be able to do that like just walking out on the field. Like knock that out. Pre-game just come and now he can't blindfold and then people say oh look at him. He doesn't he's taken it or he. So cocky here's something did not know but doing a little more research here. Since twenty fifteen the ravens have attempted to hundred and twelve field goals including the postseason on every single one of those attempts. They've had the same snapper long snapper. Same holder. same kicker justin tucker all right. It's that point of the program where neither love or you hate it. But i embrace it because it's todd fritz and whatever todd does you know i i don't like but i do love all right. Todd let me go. Let me ask seton mock headlines today for todd fritz. What do you think the topic is. Snow snow mclovin. I think the name's jt stone tyson flurry are about to read bull. Maybe for next week police. I thought the same but just to be different. Say james harden james harden ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. So todd here. We go todd with marquette. Do we have mock headline music here. We have anything yes boy is he gonna use between a rock and a hard in place because it's poll. That's let it unfold. I mean that's the beauty of todd's mock headlines here just realized that is exactly eight of them because people are concerned about what he eh eight recently so it just worked out that. Wow that's a shop. And i've no one to talk a by put on a few which i'm not proud of okay here. We go here todd with mark headlines a wait and see approach to where hardened goes spelled w. e. i g. h. t. if following along god it wait and sequoia okay strip club sandwiches to blame for sluggish star. Strip clubs that bad habits workable. We'll get them beard belly. Hardin looking soft Beard like what. I do until i got his silence between a rocket and a hard place so he guessed that it was hard as the topic and guess what are the actual headlines basket case will anything may happy He's been a main stage there but hardened ready to leave. You stood a portion to the main stage. Okay okay final to to put you guys out of your misery. James prepared to leap wall for another team. John wall. Okay exactly quiet. And he's ready to get past the rocket dealing with walker. And the last one is lap chance beard once opportunity elsewhere and thank god most strip clubs serviceable gone all right so those are a mock headlines strip club sandwiches to blame. You're saving the good stuff for next wednesday day for next wednesday players from an coaches from one thousand nine hundred six to nine thousand nine hundred seventy seven all right airline california. Hi eli what's on your mind doing that. Good sir how you guys doing back there. Five eight kobe. One eighty and i just want to also wait on the on the james harden you guys were talking about the heat and how structured out there. But i'm thinking with somebody as strong minded as pat riley spoelstra. You know those two guys can show him how to be star how to be structured how to how to win 'cause they've done it before time and time again but eli doesn't know at this age and this stage of his career. He's never going to know. He learned that as a six man in oklahoma city then he goes to houston. Has his own team gets to dictate. Everything doesn't act like a leader. Plays hard during the regular season. Can't deny that but if he goes to another team he's going to somebody else's team final hour coming up. We'll check in with the alabama head coach nick sabin.

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Mahomes and K.C. vs. the Dominant Jaguars D, Reeling Vikings Head Back to Philly, What Would You Trade for Justin Tucker?  | The NFL Deep Dive Podcast

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Mahomes and K.C. vs. the Dominant Jaguars D, Reeling Vikings Head Back to Philly, What Would You Trade for Justin Tucker? | The NFL Deep Dive Podcast

"Possibly the best match young season Mahomes and the chiefs host that dominant Jaguars defense were breaking it down as well as Vikings in eagles NFC title game rematch the battle of Texas on Sunday night and we had the mail bag including the question, what would you trade for Justin Tucker? It's all the m. v. NFL deep dive podcast. Hello and welcome to 'em QB. NFL Dodd podcast. I am Gary gramling he is and even away we have a couple of big ones and we'd five here Andy, including that algae's a Jaguars chiefs is like a dream matchup right now. Maybe maybe Jaguars rans or chiefs Rams, but something about the defense of Jaguars against the the speed and firepower of the chiefs has just this game is absolutely delicious. Absolutely. It's it's the AFC's best offense versus the AFC AFC's best defense, maybe the NFL's best offenses and defenses, and it'll be a lot of fun to see the Patrick Mahomes hype. I absolutely understand it. I am contributing to it. All you can do is tap the breaks at this point because there's nothing more you can say about the guy. You can't heap more praise on them. So we probably Gary need to discuss what's the appropriate way to tap the breaks. What does the future look like from here? Remember Kansas City last year, their offense. It wasn't like this, but they started five, no, and they were all this misdirection l. they're wonderful, Andy Reed's a genius, and they went five and seven after that. And we're very average. So it's a one week at a time thing, and this is by far their biggest test. But yet again, here they are getting another cover three defense to they play these styles of defense every week. It seems like will. Let's we're starting with that game. Obviously, in case you can figure it out Jaguars chiefs. What happened? Monday night. What were the Broncos able to do the Broncos? They contain Patrick Mahomes now, granted homes through four, three hundred four yards and touchdown in a comeback victory in week one this year we'd all be really excited about Patrick Mahomes the fact that he didn't put up other worldly numbers in this game, and the fact that the chiefs had to come back and it was a it was sort of skinny, teeth win. Is there any the Broncos did differently to relatively contain this chiefs offense? I, there's an aggressiveness to what they did and the way they played. We think of it like man, coverage, zone coverage. There's a lot of overlap in the NFL and some teams employ man principles, or they play it, like man out of their zone. They're physical. They remember no area of the field has ever caught a pass in the history of football. Men catch passes. So you're zones are relative to the man you're trying to guard within your zone. I think the Broncos took that principle pretty well on Monday night with the chiefs and all the smoke and mirrors and window dressing. They do when you have matchup principles and what you're doing that does minimize the impact of the smoke in mere stuff because you're worried about your guy rather than the big picture of things. That's what that's what teams did. Last June. We said, Kansas City, got average in the second half of the season, more team started playing man-to-man against them. So I think there was a match up feel to what Denver did the interesting thing Gary is Jacksonville, they're not really a matchup defense there. So. So fast in zone coverage that they don't. They almost don't have to match up at times because they, they converge on areas so quickly and they closed down window so quickly. But I, I would imagine they're going to want to be a little bit more assertive in had those at least have the corners up on those wide receivers this week. Yeah. I mean, tyreek hill wasn't wasn't a big downhill ski downfield factor in that Monday night game, Travis. Kelsey got off to a slow start before you get the big second half, I guess that's what in a way made it even more terrifying was it was a reminder that the chiefs come run the ball to. I mean, they had one forty two in that game against it. Very good Broncos. Run defense. Yeah, I I mean. If you are the Jaguars and it's going to be no Leonard fournette this week, you know, we've talked about on the show, Blake Bortles throwing on early downs, sort of in the MO and that's that's where they're finding success. The chiefs struggled so badly to stop. The Broncos running game would which isn't which isn't an overpowering overwhelming rushing attack. If you're the Jaguars you go back to that, do go back to sort of pounding and on first and second out and manageable third-down kind of what the the Broncos did last week when a case keenum was not particularly good net game. That's an interesting question. I think the answer in a vacuum would be. Yes, that's a good idea. 'cause Kansas City's run defense is a, it's a snap, the snap proposition. You never know what you're going to get with those guys and Denver exploited that at times. And that fits Jacksonville's profile of course. And I don't think for nets injury, frankly is a huge deal. I think the running game can function fine with Yeldan and grant in there. So that's the yes part of the vacuum answer. What makes you pause about that though is Blake? Bortles is so comfortable when you have him throw on early downs, and there's a big difference between throwing and run past situations and throwing an obvious passing situations, and you've gotta have Blake Bortles comfortable if you're going to sustain offense for Jacksonville, so I wouldn't go insane. We have to pound the rock, but I certainly would go and saying that's important with the idea that we need to leverage that into some downfield shots for. Our play action game, which is what they do ever single week. That's what Nathan you'll hack. It has done as coordinators done a very good job with them. The other thing he does a good job with Gary, and it's going to come into play in this game because Kansas City, they're, they're a matchup defense big time. They almost all their zones look like man demand by the way they play out. Let's move on. We have Vikings eagles NFC title game rematch back in Philadelphia. Two teams combined three wins this year. Eddie. I will just ask it straight up here. Is there something wrong with the Vikings defense. By their standards? Yes. The linebackers are not playing as well, especially in coverage, and it's not just Anthony Barr, getting beat in the Rams game, which everybody saw the Rams did a great job of exploiting him and packing him by their designs. There have been guys, Michael kendricks dropped a late responsibility in zone coverage against buffalo that turned into a huge gain for the bills, and it was a big play in that game. Eric Carr was if thank you. Yes, Michael kendricks has other issues coverage, Eric Hendricks drop that. And then VAR has not been good other weeks either with some of his underneath zone assignment. So what we have now is a weakness. It's a correctable weakness because we know these are good players, but this did not exist last year. When you put on Vikings film, you're an opponent you're getting ready for them. There weren't areas of their defense where you said, hey, that's where we got to exploit. That's what we're going to build our plan around. They didn't have. That they do now. Those linebackers have been liabilities in their corners aren't playing great either. So overall, it's not a confident defense in Everson Griffin's absence that doesn't help anything either. Yeah. Well, let's look at the other side of the well. It's the same side of the ball, but the other side of the line of scripture Carson Wentz two games back this offense as an exactly you know, they're not what they were with Wentz last October or September, anything like that. I mean, they kind of have issues of their own at this point. Are they going to be able to take advantage of some of the problems the Vikings are having in coverage right now? Well, let's deal with the wind side of this first because there are some rumblings oil. How is he coming off the knee? I didn't think he was greatness first game against Indianapolis. I did think he got better over the course of that game. He looked to me like Carson Wentz last week against Tennessee, especially in the first half. So that's right there that now you've got more than a fighting chance. We're talking about any lead quarterback. So I'm optimistic for the eagles offense. We know they're wide receivers are deficient. They don't have a lot of speed alshon. Jeffery is going to have to make some body post up plays, which he did a few times last week and they're going to have to keep manufacturing offense via their tight ends and running backs. I think they'll be okay. It might not work in this game though, because Zach urge there are answers for him. Well, this is the interesting park. Gary is Minnesota is very good at safety. We know that Harrison Smith can match up to tight ends. Then they play a lot of zone coverage. They put both safeties in the shallow middle of the field, and that presents. Shoes. When you got a tight end, can the eagles find ways to get earth's matched against those struggling linebackers instead, he's very good at uncovering late in the down or uncovering just period against zone coverage. If I'm Philadelphia, I'm really studying formations hard to figure out how can I get Erz on those linebackers that's their best chance. And this'll probably be the name of the game for them all season. Long Zacher in the running game are going to have to be where they were. They gal teams, yeah, I keep them looking at Nelson galore and wondering if we're going teach them in a little more aggressive with him. Like we did early last season. He has. I don't know if you've seen his stat line. He is twenty. Five catches for one hundred sixty seven yards this year, which is. Yeah, I knew it was low. I knew it was low pre catch six point seven earth. That's that's not going to do it. Well, one thing I'm surprised they haven't done a little more of what makes you prizes when they do do it. You see, and you go, looks nifty. That makes sense as some of the jet action and sweeps and misdirection stuff involving galore. More teams are doing that. Now it's a hard thing to contest with and it's a great way to get a rhythm type of player. He were a basketball guy, he'd catch. He's a catch and shoot guy. He's not an ice, oh, get to the basket type of guy. So you've got to get him in rhythm with your designs, offensively and other side of the ball. They're look eagles gave up. A big comeback to a titans offense. It just just doesn't have a whole lot of firepower. Now they get feeling and digs, and Kirk cousins is playing well, is cousins? Are they going to be able to basically feast downfield against us eagles defence at still without a Roddy McLeod. Keep an eye on Corey Graham. He's the fill in there. They're still playing got done watching the eagles titans film earlier today. In fact, that three robber coverage of talked about which is cover three. But with the free safety down, not down lower ten to twelve year gets off or he's kind of middle the field, all all things, trade, all Jack of all traits, they're still doing that with Corey Graham. So they're going to try it. A McLeod is so much more dynamic than Graham in that sense. So just something to keep in mind, we'll see how it goes. Graham was not good in certain spots down the stretch against Tennessee Ville. So the absence and Matic's number three safety. Now their fourth-round corner who's Val playing third safety and dime because they're down mcleod's down a safety. He got beat a couple times as well, including on the game winning touchdown last week, so that MacLeod injury, we thought it'd be big and so far it has been big, you mix in a struggling Jalen mills and factor in that. Kirk cousins is throwing the ball very well outside the numbers downfield right now, and he's got digs and he's has stealing. This could be a tough match-up for Philadelphia. They're going to. They're going to have to rely on what they relied on when they crushed this team in the NFC championship, which is their pass, rush dictating the game. Yeah. Yeah, that's. I mean, that's look, that's that's a real possibility. We kind of focus on the, you know, in this conversation so far we focus on the scope position players, but the eagles have a real edge upfront against Vikings, offensive line. It's a better offense of line than last time when they when they saw these guys last time, but it's in some ways. It might be a better eagles dealing hasn't been as dynamic and productive as it was a year ago. But the talent is there. I was wrong about the Michael Bennett for Vinny curry. Switch Bennett has been an upgrade. He's not a downgrade. He's played very well. Curry has not been very visible in Tampa Bay. So you have that goal and Brandon. Graham Fletcher Cox doing their thing. Derek Barnett is a much better player now than he was as a rookie. He's going to be a top ten defensive end at some point. So it's not showing up yet. The eagles d. line has not been as dominant as it was in the Super Bowl run, but all the makings are there for dominance. It's only a matter of time. Yeah, let's go. Let's go to the Sunday night or this is all Texas. This is Cowboys at Texans. Let's start on the Cowboys offense here Dak through the ball better last week and it seemed like. At least the, you know, the big plays. They got there was a little more creativity with what they were doing, especially with Zico, Elliott in the passing game is a reason to be a little more optimistic about the Cowboys offensively. Well, it's good. You know, our producer Shelby Royston got stuck in your New York City traffic. On the way here naked me an extra hour to watch Detroit films we're waiting to record. So I, I have a better answer on that question that I would have a better answer for Cowboys fans, and I would have if we'd recorded at the previously scheduled time, I'm optimistic forum. Their offense went through the running game last week, which is how it has to be every single week. They're aligned, responded tremendously, including looney at center. He was very good at times, got up on Jair Davis a few times and in Prescott he also had more responsibility at the line of scrimmage. We saw audible or making signals check with me kind of things. He's very good at that. I think that gives them an ownership in the play designs when he struggles, he doesn't play on schedule. He'll get off a reads too quickly, and he'll leave some throws on the field. But when he has responsibility and he's taken ownership of the offense and he's making signals and it's also going through the running game. Initially, he's a much better QB. He's more of a field general then. So I was a much much better showing by Dallas against Detroit than it wasn't getting Seattle. Now they're facing a very, very good Texans defense. So a defense, it gives you a lot of different looks up front. It's a defense that's weak on the back end though. So I guess it's weakness, first weakness, Dallas wide receivers versus Huston's secondary. I was gonna say, even though the Texan got their first win last week, I think people were maybe wringing their hands a little bit about the fact that they gave up thirty four points. I think it was thirty one in that was one of those weird gains where they kicked a bunch of field goals in overtime. Everyone got a field goal. See how they gave up thirty. One regulation. Andrew luck ended up throwing a lot of times, but a lot of yards for sixty four. If you struggle to cover though, I would think it'd be a pretty welcomed sight to see the Cowboys coming to town. Yeah, it's a good way to get back on track but coverage to how much do you get back on transit we can have. What do you think about this discussion like you go back to the eagles for a second because Jalen mills struggling. It left corner form, and that's been part of the problem in addition to what they have going on at safety, that's a zone type scheme. I could see how do you get back on track as a zone defender, or are you just what you are as as any kind of past defender? Texans do a little bit more match up zone man to. So I would think if you're in zone, you could be off track but get on track. It's just a matter of reading your cues and understanding your spacing. But if you're a matchup type defender, you play man to man. I would imagine to a certain. You are what you are. So maybe Houston gets on track, but at some point, Jonathan, Joseph doesn't run well anymore. Aaron Cole wtn's out injured. They're not particularly deep at some point that's going to to come home and pay a price for them. Yeah. Now I can't believe Jonathan. Joseph is started four games this year. I can't. I thought he'd be to his credit. He's at just at his game very well for someone that does not run well anymore. He plays off coverage now. He still has a great sense for when the balls in the air, how the recover. I, I'm impressed with Jonathan Joseph. That's a hard position to over achieve at it's hard to hide your limitations, and he does it through smart technique, but we're still talking about limitations. I don't know if this is the week expose those again. If you're Dallas, you guess you put Michael Gallup out there and hope he catches something I don't. I don't like that matchup over the Cowboys. This this comes down to the trenches as equal LA the align. I JJ watt in the front. Houston, I would think so. I think you feel pretty good about that. If you're Houston in the year twenty eighteen, you maybe don't have great cover guys, but you gotta you gotta team coming in that doesn't throw the ball very well. The last note on the Cowboys to they started doing a little bit more restock releases and bunches and switches to help their wide receivers, which is what we were saying they need to do. They're not good enough to just lineup play and spread sets and is so routes. It's the same issue, though you we'd see with Green Bay over the years. We'd say this about Green Bay all the time. They couldn't beat man coverage while you got to help them with design. You can tell the teams that haven't practiced that over the off season that don't have that as part of their foundation in their passing game. I part of me thinks that could be an issue with Dallas is that they need to help their receivers, but their system, what they practiced, all training camp isn't conducive to that. So might be too little too late. We'll see, let's go, let's go Monday night football. This is Washington going to New Orleans. This was a, this is a really good game last year. They went to overtime. There were some some questionable calls that went against the Redskins and. And New Orleans ends up pulling this one out. I just I feel like this is a game where you know we talked about maybe in the larger scheme of things. Kirk cousins to Alex Smith is something of a lateral move. Cousins is has a little more highs and lows where Smith is is you know, you have less risk, but you're getting less reward. I think this is a week where they are really going to miss Kirk cousins. Well, first of all, my mother watched this game last year and turned it off, and she watches football while she cooks and she has helped me. I think I saw her Wednesday after that. So a few days later and she mentioned how Washington had beaten the saints. I said, well, no breeze Cam back and scored two touchdowns in the final drives, and she didn't believe me, which was really that was so much fun to get up that relic, someone being disappointed. Remember anyway. Drew Brees is the only player she knows. She just knows the uniform and the sound of football, she cooks, yeah, I to give you an idea. I grew up in a house. Scary. Remind dad would make passionate. He walk into the room in the middle of the game. Unbeknownst of which team is which just someone was an dark jersey, someone in a white jersey. He had extrordinary ability to immediately assume rooting interest for one of those Tim somehow. And then he would have passionate pleas that they should not allow defenders to strip the ball from offense of guys. He says it was against the integrity of the game, the game's about tackling not stripping the ball, and I would tell them that's patented patently ridiculous and his response would be, how would you like it? If someone came and just rip the ball away from you, how would you like it? So that's the kind of house I grew up in, but my mom still watch that game and she missed the end of it. And so that's what I think about now as always stay with the end of these games, you don't. Want to be your mother in the kitchen. Thinking the wrong team on drew Brees in his comeback ability. I'll be interested to see him. You know, set the he's gonna set the passing record in this game. But your point about Alex Smith back to the subject of being on. Yes, yes, sure that time, no, no, no more about your parents. What's going on in this game? You know, I, I am confident my stance on Alex Smith, which is yes, there's less risk less reward. And ultimately I don't think that's going to fit how Jay Gruden wants to play. But I need to be fair and honest here to after watching that Green Bay film, Alex Smith in that game made a number of the type of throws. And I think he could make his forty six yard touchdown to Richardson early in the game, very decisive. I think that was a shot play versa cover to if I recall, and then he had another nine yard bullet in the red zone of tight window timing throat. Jamison, Crowder to illustrations of what cousins gave him that I didn't think Alex Smith could give him. He has given it to them so far. He needs to do it a few more times. I've seen him do it every once in a while before, but this would be a good week to do it. That's a saints defense. You can go after a little bit. Yeah. What's you know? Marshon Lattimore is is is fine. He's still good. What's been the issue with the back end of the saints defense. And did they get it corrected to an extent last weekend's, the giants or just a matter of giants are really not in sync with this with this passing game? Yeah, I watched f ill and felt like that was more good saints than bad giants. There's criticism of manning, yeah, you know, these not manning was not fully trusting his offense of line and that did have negative repercussions at time. So it was not a scintillating offense, offensive showing or in therefore not a scintillating defensive showing, but it was much better. And what I liked is the saints looked like they got better the same way they got better last year, which was they don't reduce their scheme so much, but they simplify it from snap the snap. They do a lot of different coverages, but they're not overly complex coverages right now. They just change them up steadily, but they had a cover to was what the kind of went back to, and they fell back on against the giants. And I think that's a good approach for them that helps them. They were playing with the lead. So you can't just lineup and cover to this week against Washington. You're going to have to do a little bit more, but the saints are at their best when they're simple yet diverse, and they looked simple divers against a giant. So all the eager to see says a different challenge, oh, member, New York. They wanna beat you with their wide receivers, especially with Evan Ingram out of the lineup. So that brings Lattimore into the equation kind of plays to the saints strengths a little bit. Although they're kinda weak at corner right now, but whatever the Redskins are going to try to beat you with their running backs and tight ends over the middle. So Candice saints linebackers cover this week now that that'll be interesting. And obviously, as Andy mentioned drew, Brees is probably going to get the all time passing yardage record in that game, which is, which is nice thing. We can all celebrate the drew Brees. Jenny Brenton had a nice piece on him on the QB earlier this week, sort of looking back over his career. Obviously people nice things to say about drew Brees last game. It wasn't that weird to see Brees is old chargers uniform in that picture we had on that story. Yeah, I dug through all the all the old archives, those shoes. Yes. Those those uniforms are we? Because we have had SI we have so many amazing pictures from years and years. So when you do something with the least bit of like historical angle on Egypt, digging through the archives for for a while, and there's a lot of cool stuff there, but you look back early two, thousands, this shoulder pads are. So they're so huge, everyone's so drastically different. Looking at that point yet your pads are big pads, just get smaller and smaller, don't they? And then the NFL instituted a rule that you have to have your kneepads now on. You can't just wear pads and only Thia pads anymore, but it seems like Patrick Peterson the other day and they see hawks game had his knees totally exposed. It seems like that rules just getting annoyed. Maybe I'm wrong. I did not know that was rule, nor did I notice Patrick Peterson's knees, but I would have if I knew that was rule. Is that a rule Andy. They? Yes, they made it a rule a few years ago that all those padding that Patten's mandatory. I don't know how much they've enforced it though. Like, what's? How do you make it like Patrick Peterson, where's this kneepads? But he hikes up his pants so that is pads above his kneecap and therefore not really serving as a pad at all because these guys like their knees uncovered because I think they feel they're faster when they do that. What do you do about that? Says, small things. It's no, it's it's not. It's not like the guy's brain health or something here, but the NFL does want you to wear your. They say, they want you to wear their pads, they, they want your uniform to uniform. That's why they send send out those letters if an I liked it had the right. I I, I get annoyed I know people think of killjoy and the guy that doesn't want max Williams to get to play guard and catch a ball, or Montgomery gets to wear eight for Green Bay play running back. I like the uniform rules and I get annoyed when I see guys violating them on TV. If someone socks aren't the right height or color, I love that the NFL stringent about that. I will have to introduce you to my friend who has an intern for the NFL. His job was to send out those letters physically, not really them up, but make sure they were addressed to the proper player. Okay. The I wanted to know that sort of thing. That's what I wanted to know. Interesting. He's he's a hero. This is last one we're going to break down. This is Cincinnati and Miami. And when Andy send this to me and said, he wanted to break down this game. And I said, why do you want to break down this game? Not that I don't wanna talk about these teams, but you know, anti pointed out there both three and one someone's leaving this game four and one unless they both leave three one and one. But let's let's start with the dolphins. What I just asked you what happened to this team last week in New England, I would Chuck it up to just one of those days. Their their defense was not horrible early on, but it didn't get off the field. And so it got gradually worse as the game went along and they add some penalties. It was not a great defensive showing their offense because the defense couldn't get off the field. Their offense wasn't on the field very much and it didn't establish any rhythm. And when the dolphins struggle, which last year is for the first half of the season, they they're not a good third down and long at team, and I don't think Adam cases a very aggressive or confab. Play caller and third and long. It's a lot of screens and Dink and Dunkin. Let's live the fight another day stuff. The dolphins gotten a ton of third and long situations last week, variety of reasons. So bunch of little things went wrong and it snowballed into one big, bad performance. I don't think this team's as bad as they might not be as good as three and suggested coming in, but they're much better than the team. We saw certainly against New England. What's your? What's your read? Let's talk about Bengals offense versus dolphin's defense. What to read on the Bengals are the Bengals achilles heel. The last couple of years has been the offensive line. They're not playing at a level that they were at when Andrew Whitworth was there and all those guys, but the offensive line is is holding its own, which as we talked about this off season, that's kind of what you know, that's that's your goal. You can function on offense. If your offense of lying can play above a certain baseline in the Bengals are finally back over that baseline. They are into get them back under the baseline. If I'm a defense, I'm looking at finding ways to power, rush the right side of that Bengals align Alex Redmond who by the way, if you can ever Google Alex Redmond there right guard, he's the least NFL ish looking player I've ever seen in my life. I saw when I went and did the thing with vont has birthed last year, and I pulled the PR lady aside a said, just who's the guy in the glasses over there. 'cause I, I could tell it was a player, but he did not look like a player and she said, yeah, he's a fascinating guy. We're fascinated by him, but he's not a great at the bull rush, Alex Redmond. So and then Bobby Hart at right, tackle. Next to Redmond. He struggled with that at times to against Atlanta. So if I'm Miami, I'm looking at Cameron wake and then they've got a pretty good detachable rotation. Akeem Spence as part of add, Jordan Phillips, no longer is that's a good layer getting cut for them. I was surprised by that, but I would look at power, rushing against that right side of the Bengals, oh line how much of this. And actually this is going to transition into our mailbag here because we have similar question along these lines within AFC north team, but look, the Bengals put up a lot of pointing the falcons. They put up a lot of pointing. It's the ravens on a night on which the ravens lost CJ Moseley on a short week, they put up, they put up thirty four against the colts colts are not as bad defensively as we thought. But also, you know, several of those points came from from the defense. I'm not. I don't think anyone's sitting here thinking the Bengals are going up thirty five points every week, but are we going to see sort of a sharp progression into what they were last year? Is it simply matter of Andy, Dalton, sort of when he struggles when he gets to that place, it tends to snowball loathe it. Is it as simple as that or do they do they essentially have a better structure than they used to have? Yeah. Yeah. Since the days of that the consecutive playoff appearances, the, I think they have a little better structure. The three things that make you say, hey, maybe this can continue because Dalton has played very well. I mean, he's throwing the ball well, but the three things is we've touched on one already the old line, even though they're, I think they're vulnerable in the right side a little bit. Yes, it is a better, oh line and that matters too. And he hasn't been in the lineup lately, but Joe mixing a big time running back and he's going to give them some dimension only going to get better with him. And the third thing Gary is Tyler Boyd all the sudden as become one of the league's better underneath receivers. I'm watched him as a rookie. I thought this guy's going to be a top three or four slot receiver within the next year or so. Now he did some things last year that wasn't the most mature guy, and I think they lost some faith in him and they weren't comfortable with him on the field at times staff's been changed. Its Bill lasers offense. They've got different position coaches there in some spots void. Getting to play again, and he's looking really, really, really good. They're killing people out of the slot. Boy, desire AJ. Green has more slop production than he's ever had. It's a bad week for the dolphins to lose Bobby McCain gives them some versatility as a slut guy now they're going to have to rely solely on Minka Fitzpatrick in the slot. Yeah, it seems like that would alleviate some of the pain of losing Tyler I for as well. Not that now that they have that consistent production as coming out of the slot with Boyd as a possession receiver. Yeah, and that's what he sees a possession receiver in a good way, a great way. The ability to separate at the top of short route. He's got some shifting to his movement. And if you think about that, what we're describing a guy that can get open at the shallow levels, and if I'm Andy, Dalton and I'm starting to feel not that any don't think some self like this, but I'm starting to feel bad. Andy, Dalton de for a little bit here. And, oh, here comes in here. Shen having a guy that can get open underneath shallow. That's a nice thing to have. That's something he hasn't had before either necessarily. Not like that. Yeah. And by the way, should know. Joe mixing, at least at the time of our taping is on peace to return to the lineup this week after the minor knee cleanup. So more good news for the Bengals there. Well, you know, he's healthy because he ran down the sideline and jumped up and down about every single play that they had it Atlanta last week. He was the most enthusiastic injury non-participant that I've ever seen. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe that's why they're throwing them back out there. They didn't even check with the doctors to that point. Yeah, we're just he's safer out there. Then he is on his own volition on the sideline to I've heard show Nixon's like a a little bit like a young teenager at times. So I'm sure you want to give him some boundaries and maybe his boundaries are just go play football. Don't think about it. Joe disco he is a great talent. I hope he does. Well is he is, let's let's open up the mini mailbag here we're starting with one from Nick. This is very blunt question. How good are the ravens Gary, you call them one of the not so good teams. Andy, you think Lamar is going to start in all seriousness. How good are they really? They just had twenty awful minutes after CJ. Moseley went down in that Thursday night game. I take it. You're, you're the one that that you know yours. Yours is harder than mine. Mine was harder than than yours, but I will say, I don't think anyone if you're Raymond's fan, you don't want me praising this team. Look what I did to the bucks. I bashed the bucks. They went off to that fast start, and then we started praising them and look what happens. Now they're getting beat by seventy points in Chicago. I thought the defense was going to be better than it was down the stretch last year, and that was my bigger problem with it. I, I'm not. I'm not necessarily surprised that they're better authencity. I think they, they had better talent and the skill positions on they have a better more creative system that they're running for for Joe flacco. Now with all the tight ends and and a little more throwing out of run, looks type of deal. Sometimes throwing two guards as Andy love so much, but it's I thought they'd be better authentically. I, my issue with the ravens. I didn't think they would be dominant defensively, which is what I thought they'd be a year ago and they weren't especially down the stretch last year. Yeah, their defense has been better than I thought as well. And I don't know why I thought it'd be pretty good. I don't know why I didn't have higher hopes for them because is not. They don't have a Tyler Boyd on there where someone's all the sudden playing better like a maniac. And we didn't think he could their safeties. We knew they were good. They were going to disguise allow their safeties. We knew they have fundamentally sound strong run defenders, which they have. And we, I think we both liked Marlin Humphry moving up into the lineup is a number while really their number one corner. Now, theoretically they should only get better having Jimmy Smith come innings back, play ahead of car. Maybe Brandon cartridge played pretty well. So yeah, maybe we just missed on the I was down on their offense a little bit, and their offense has been better than I thought and they've done it the way I was hoping they would do it. It's like you said, they're throwing out a running formations. These a lot of multi in which they did a year ago, but now they've got a lot of purpose and designs exploiting that, and they're going to get the Hayden Hearst healthy at some point to ball. Damore right now. I don't know if there's a way to argue that they don't look like the best team in the AFC north. Yeah, no, absolutely. And again, I don't wanna go nuttier. They are. They are three and one. I could see them finishing nine and seven and missing the postseason. I could see them maybe climbing all the way to ten or eleven wins and winning this division. But yeah, the they probably are a little bit better. They're certainly better than the not so good that I described them as recently, but yeah, they are. They're good. They're good. I wonder if this is their ceiling, but they are good right now. Next one's from this is Nick from London. Andy. Are you seeing opposing teams do anything on defense to take away moving pockets, play action and the similar that the Texans used to help the Shawn Watson last year? Or does this just look like Bill O'Brien, returning more to his philosophical core, perhaps more confidence in his quarterback. It's a great question because we talked about I wrote about that. They haven't. They've done moving pockets in pre snap motion about one third as much in Houston. This year's it did last year and the games at Watson played. It's been much more traditional deeper dropback and they got back to some of the pre snap motion is into college type stuff. They got back to it a little bit against Indianapolis. I asked Bill O'Brien, why they're doing it that way. I was shocked. He wouldn't share his intimate football secrets with me. And so I don't have an answer to that if someone's doing something to take it away, I don't what I've always liked about those. I don't know if you can't take away a moving pocket defensively, you could probably get a coordinator to say, oh yeah, there's here's twelve very tiny things that are hugely important that we do, but the moving pocket, it's an entire offense of line moving. It's all the receivers flow into one side of the field and its security on the move defenses are not built to stop that necessarily because as a d. Offense. You have to build your pass, rush under the assumption that the quarterbacks going to be a stationary target. Otherwise, you just get into guessing games and it's hard. So that's that's why moving pocket. So often combat a good pass rush is you just don't have time to schema pass, rush against it because otherwise you don't know exactly how or where the pocket will move. Houston needs to be doing more of this stuff, though they're, they're putting more pressure on Watson by, not simplify. I don't wanna say simplifying, but for him, it's simplifying plays to his strength. So well, doing these college tactics. I answer prized. They've gotten away from it a little bit. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think maybe the the knee injury plays into that a little bit or or maybe they just, you know, they are ripping the band aid off a little bit faster than than we thought they would, but should they even be ripping the band aid? I mean, why? Why you got the Shawn Watson, that's what he does. That's what he is. Why try to mow? I didn't think he'd be great in the NFL because I thought you. Can't mold him into a traditional pro QB and Houston last race it well, it doesn't matter. We're gonna mold ourselves into an untraditional offense and be great, and they were, why wouldn't that be the long-term plan with Watson then? I think they're leaning system over player. Leaning, that's that. Well, that's that is you don't do that with your quarterback. That's the wrong position to leam system over player. All right. I'm just saying, that's, that's the sense I get from. I'm not. I'm not scolding. You seem very upset with me anti your system ultimately takes on the if you're doing it right. It takes on the shape of your quarterback. We say that all the time. Let's get a one more question in here. This is this is one that I want to hear your answer on this. Andy is from Christopher. If you were running the Los Angeles chargers, what would you give up for Justin Tucker. We'll be trade for them. I would give up. I give up a third round pick up second. Even I was gonna say, I give up to. I think I might as well, which is why never looked. They were wrong on Roberto down in Tampa. He he ended up being really bad, but philosophically, I did not mind using a second round pick on a kicker. If you think that kicker it is going to be in upper echelon, top-five type of kicker, which which, obviously and obviously they were wrong. I agree. We've seen it backfire and some teams drafting before, but that we're talking about transferring guys translating them to the NFL, though it's different kicking and college. A field goal poster, wider apart in college, a hash marks or wider. So you're at a totally different angle and sesa- harder angle in college. Tucker's such a known entity I told when I'd I'd tell you when I was at the hall of fame game, I got stuck on the elevator with flacco suggs Ed Reed, shoddy John Harbaugh, and Tucker. They were. They were all there for Ray Lewis speech. Yes. And the elevator is exceptionally slow. So we were stuck on the elevator, but they were somebody teased Tucker about being a kicker, still. I was suck that that's the, that's the burden you carry as a kicker. But the the other thing I wanna say much Tucker, doesn't Tucker diamond thirty years old yet. I mean, he's going to be in the league for like twelve more years. Probably Anna's elite level for like eight to ten, so I would I would give up to if I thought I had a pretty good team or or even if I maybe I didn't have a pretty good team. I might give up a two for them. I admire him by the way. It doesn't look like a kicker. When you're on an elevator with a meter, he looked he's he's a bigger guy what the hell. That means anything at all, but for what that's worth. I'm a big Justin Tucker fan. Yeah, yes, you are. He's going to convert you after all. If they ever invent like I have a friend who says that you should get four points for hitting the goal post as a field goal kicker, like it's more percents putting it through. Well, I just hitting it. She hasn't gone that far. She just, she stops at four and I said, we have a, what does it have to go in or out? Or you know, I usually just dismiss it because there's no positive end of that conversation. It's just going to go down a fan boy conversation for me and she so anyway, though, if they ever implement that kind of rule, I'm reading the first round pick for Justin Tucker because not only does he make everything he is right down the pipe on everything he kicks. It really is if you had the, you know, the stanchion that that held up the upright if that just extended as high as he goes, he he would hit it on most of these kids. It's absurd absolutely would. And it's funny you maybe we can end on this note the last time I saw someone hit the stanchion on a kick. I believe it was. In a Baltimore game, do you remember that we're win over the field goal post, hit the back of the stanchion and then ricocheted back onto the field. And everybody thought that it was a missed field goal and they reviewed it or they've looked at into note, actually went through and then bound hype. Do you remember? I do vaguely remember that. I think that was. I'm pretty sure, and this is the exact kind of thing that our listeners will twit to love them is I, I'm pretty sure it was a Baltimore game that that happened. It's it's a great segment. Gehring Andy, vaguely remember things. Can you fill in the blanks here floors. All right, that's that's a wrap for this salon. Thanks as always researchers read foster and Ryan Taylor who make it sound smart every week. Thank you to producer Shelby Royce in all the guys that came sir teen. I'm at the new studio this week. It's beautiful. It's fantastic. Sound like Donald Trump for second. Most of all, thank you to you guys for listening to this episode of the m QB deep dive NFL podcasts. You really are the best any night. We'll be back in your feed. First thing, Monday morning breakdown all the Sunday action. I will actually back Friday with the gambling show. That's myself Jimmy traina and Scott gramling. 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Ravens-Browns craziness with Justin Tucker; plus Steve Kornacki

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

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Ravens-Browns craziness with Justin Tucker; plus Steve Kornacki

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It hasn't outdoor kitchen a poor and game room for the kids so we can really unwind and relax check out the virgo app for whatever kind of vacation. Your family needs. That's virgo v. r. b. o. Dot com your together awaits Welcome to the peter king podcast after an incredible weekend in the nfl. But this is really a special. Peter king podcast this week. It's the first one ever that is going to be on television on peacock. So if you're watching this like i'm sure at least eighteen. Twenty twenty five million people are watching this. You're watching the first one in history so it's really cool but i really appreciate you joining me. We got a great podcast this week. We've got justin tucker of the baltimore ravens to describe what it's like to make one of the biggest kicks of your life after one of the greatest games in recent. Nfl history so justin tucker the kicker the ball baltimore ravens on the heels of their forty seven. Forty two victory over the cleveland browns. In cleveland on monday night. He'll be here. And also america's favorite steve kornacki will be here to talk about little bit about politics. But we're gonna talk a lot about america and about his love of football. It's going to be cool. So thanks so much for joining me can have a very quick open so we can get to the conversations two very interesting things that i think This week week fourteen will really be remembered for one jalen hurts his debut. I wrote a lot about this in my columnist week. But i think the most notable couple of things to realize about jalen hurts is look carson wentz. His time in philadelphia is not over. It might be. We'll see but what has to happen before then. I do want you to remember one thing though. Joe banner the former cap guy in executive of the philadelphia. Eagles told me no contract is untradable. So don't go thinking that i will. The eagles are kinda stuck with carson. Wentz i mean. I don't think the eagles are stuck with carson. Wentz second thing. What teams are likely if he ever does go on the market carson wentz number one indianapolis number two new england. There will be others. But i'll tell you what. I think going to indianapolis in a pretty quiet midwestern place in. That's where obviously carson wentz's from from north dakota i think it'd be a great match for him and reuniting with his former offensive coordinator in philadelphia frank right but anyway getting way ahead of ourselves. That's not going to be determined until the very least february when philadelphia has a chance to sit back in basically think about so second thing is with green bay winning and new orleans. Losing in this weekend you know what it means. It means that green bay not only has great shot to win home field now in the nfc but just think about how important home field would be in the nfc. Forget the crowd. I'm talking about a weather okay. So the green bay packers would have to play home games on the weekend of january tenth in the weekend of january seventeen. So what does that mean. What it means is that look at all of the southern and western teams. That are gonna be in the playoffs and might have to go to green bay on january tenth and january seventeenth with. Let's go go down in order. the los angeles rams the tampa. Bay buccaneers the arizona cardinals. The new orleans saints the seattle seahawks. No one on. Those teams plays with any regularity when it's eight degrees wind chill when it's snowing sideways so i understand crowds or a huge factor in the playoffs but there will be no crowds or there will be very very small crowds this year. The whole thing is climate and that is the biggest thing with home field in the nfc this year. So let's get to our conversations. Were going to go first to baltimore maryland. Add to the home. Actually to the basement of kicker justin tucker. Who had incredible monday night. I'm so happy this week to be joined by justin tucker The baltimore ravens. Kicker on the podcast. Not only because you know. He's topical now because of what in the baltimore. Cleveland game on monday night but also because he's a fun guest. He has the best set for the peter king podcasts. Perhaps in podcast history so justin. Thanks for joining me. And you're in a beautiful spot there in in baltimore thank you. I don't know if i should show everybody that. This is my kind of catch. All right now. We got like just like a random. Tv on the floor. You got the guitars connect guitar. You get a drought glass. Glass of prisoner. So do you play the drums. I don't they're they're they're miniature. Drums are for my my son. He said it was a it. Was the christmas gift that has kept on giving for several years. Now as as you can imagine a two three four year old boy. A loves playing his drums quite loudly much to the chagrin of his his mother and father at times. Yeah oh that's good. Well anyway thank you so much for joining and look obviously anybody who watched the monday night game this week. Baltimore forty seven cleveland. Forty two there are so many things. But what i thought it would be interesting to do is not just ask you about the game winning field goal but have you take us into what it was like to be in the middle of honestly the game of the year so far in the nfl and truly one of the great in most compelling games that that i've ever seen. And i guess. I would start out by saying you're on the females. You're watching everything happened. You're you're watching this incredible game. Do you realize justin when you're in the middle of this holy cow. This special i. The short answer is yes and no. I talked about this briefly in my posting media availability. How it really doesn't matter. What my feelings or emotions may be throughout the course of a football game or season but especially late in a football game where the scores close My feelings cannot get in the way of execution baking of the action and the consequence not just for that particular gain which was obviously unexciting thrilling. Just incredible matchup and finish. But also you know the implications that the alphabet game would have us as a football team for our whole season as as we see this moment in time and as we have seen it for realistically two plus weeks now we are in the playoffs. We have to you know. Leave no wiggle room for for error because we know the afc playoff picture is quite tight. This year ten wins could get it done. Eleven wins should absolutely get it done. You know that means we have to win out and then from there on you know. We're in the playoffs playoffs. And obviously it's You know the stakes are even higher there. But you know it's all of that stuff is there but it's important to as difficult as it may be. I would say it's impossible. But you have to put that aside compartmentalize. It realized that you know your feelings whether they're positive or negative somewhere in between they don't matter all that matters is the action of the one point. Three seconds between when morgan throws the snapback sandbox. And i kicked the ball. Those are the only things that the only thing i can control seeing the ball kits seasonable leave my foot and hoping it goes where i'd so let's irt now with two minutes and twelve seconds left in the fourth quarter of. What has been an incredible game your quarterback ear leader your mvp Lamar jackson is back in the locker room with cramps. Getting iv fluids and watching the game on television and it seems logical the thing that that moment that he is not coming back and your fate down a point with two minutes and twelve seconds to go is in the hands of your third string quarterback a precocious kid from penn state named trace mcsorley. Who's never in his life in his professional life. Been put in this position before so with two twelve to go. Trace mcsorley tries to convert in a third down play third and three and he E- e- certa gets wound up on the turf ann's up hurting his left knee. And he's laying there on the turf holding the knee and my first thought watching the game and the darkness in brooklyn new york. Where i live is wait a minute. They don't have another quarterback who would you wouldn't have been the only person thinking that or entire sideline was a scrambling trying to figure out. What the next move was you know. Including myself are our head. Coach are kicking coach. Randy willie snead started taking snaps at the old. Just in case he Point you know what i heard. When i heard today is that willie snead is soon as he saw a trace mcsorley laying on the ground hold in his knees. It you know he's gonna gimme a football. Gimme a football. I gotta take some snaps. I throw the ball. So i heard many lintel. You were literally on. What's i that he'd he'd said literally almost verbatim time to shine he. He thought he was going to put the team on his back and an honestly the look that he had in his. I wouldn't doubt him for a second. Yeah it was definitely a crazy cullum. I mean the everything that happened from the two minute. Warning to the end of the game was bloggers to say the least. But yeah that that incensio. You're talking about the third down. Does not get converted a between a time traces no on the field injured and the fourth down play yet. Rob's trump figure. Out what i have to ask you this so hard of me was thinking. Wait a second there down. One point and i'm trying to calculate it in my head. This would be sixty one sixty two yard field goal. Maybe and i'm thinking to myself if let's just say that that happens in its fourth and five. What would have happened at that moment. If if if that's it would you have told john harbaugh or or or anybody on the team. I can do this. Don't worry i can make this. What was going through your head at that moment. Well first of all thank. Goodness lamar pulled a stone. Cold steve austin bob. God it's stone. Call the bar. Jackson coming out of the tunnel and he's got his helmet. He's back in the game and then the rest is history as they say you know. I see exactly what you're seeing. I see traces trace isn't going to be able to go. Lamar has been the labrum with cramps. In i see will start to take snaps I i am at about midfield where the spot of a potential kit would be like. You said it was about sixty two yard. Field goal ended right to left cross win at the dog pound end of the stadium there. And i i run up to you. Were hard and randy are. And i'm basically fagin. We don't have quarterback right now. Like i might the are you know this is a pretty low percentage kit for reggie might be the best chance and i. I'm thinking yeah might down by one. You know just all the everything that you talked about situationally. And i. I'm thinking all right i might have to just you know. Pull one out there and let's party. Let's see if we can knock this thing through the market saved day. But i i remember saying to harbs. Right there on the sideline ours. We don't have a quarterback. I i might need. I might need to hit this. And he kind of turns to randy randy. Who's gonna be my biggest advocate at all times. He does one of these two harbs. You just goes. I don't think so. And lamar timing couldn't have been better runs out and Re shocked to see him run out. I was surprised to see how a sprightly he seemed to a. The ivy must work for him so clearly at dead But yeah i was. I think a number of us were surprised to see lamar running out there in Know not just to you know three-set drop and then just try to put the ball on receiver handoff jar screen or something but you know state pocket. Roll out to his right and then just deliver a perfect ball. Hollywood down the field. And of course hollywood runs in touch for a touchdown at that point at that point. In time i tell you that i was in a way in a sense relieved I think a lot of us were. But i've seen too many of these movies. Play in you gotta know that baker the incredible competitor he is in you know jarvis slant their whole their whole offense the way that they were you know. They kept the game highly competitive. You've just had to know that with you. Know a little less than two minutes last that you know you. You're optimistic and hopeful that your defense can just get him off the field. Put the game away right then and there but you get too emotionally involved in put too much stock into something that you can't control so the only thing that you know morgan salmon ido to do is just go sit on the bench words nice and warm and then wait wait for our if we if we should get one shirt. We did just a minute in change later in that minute. Change seemed like a interred on eternity. It didn't you know took the last two minutes of this game trigger off a long time. I don't know how many but that is probably twenty or twenty five minutes. But what i felt was really really interesting is that so lamar. Gets the ball down So that you would be in position to kick about a fifty five yard field goal there seven seconds to go and i wonder at that moment while you're watching this happen Abe espn cameras. Catch you going out on the field and you made the sign of the cross. And when i saw that i was saying man is it's a habit or is this god. You gotta help me now. it's It it's both. I mean it's part of my routine by ritual. Every every single time i lined up to kick. I make a sign of the cross. I've done that ever since high school. It for you know more than anything not to ask for or pray for a result It's just to acknowledge gratitude. And thanks for the moment you know just for being created. Did he present in. What so many people would consider to be an amazing mullet. And i you know. I do that in the first quarter of the game with a pet in of course with a know fifty five yard game winning goal to put the game away a more than anything. It's just sitting knowledge. -ment of you know of our creator putting us in this position to not just for my own self to have an opportunity to succeed in my field but to push smile on. Someone's face somebody out. There could get great joy from watching. This ball goes through the uprights. And i'd like to think a lot of baltimore. Ravens fans were pretty. Happy could get great joy. Not a lot of them. Living in northeast ohio. But let me let me ask about two specific things coming into this kick. i've always wondered about kickers. Who are really good. And obviously you are the most efficient kicker in nfl history. Most accurate kicker in nfl history. At a moment like this does part of you wish that on the play. Before this. That lamar thrown in touchdown pass. And you just celebrate with all. Your teammates is great win. Or are you really sorta happy that this game is on your shoulders if you make the kick you win. You're alive live in the playoffs. And if you don't make the kick you're probably going over time in who knows what happens. What really do you feel like at that moment. It's honestly hard to say. It's probably a combination of both of those things in. It's not fifty percent this way fifty percent the other hundred percent. I would love to see lamar. Toss down the sideline to hollywood willion. They just march the zoning games over out love to see that. I also relish the opportunity to go out there with morgan and sam and the rest of the guys block and for us and put game on our shoulders. Because that's It's i mean it's what every kid dreams of you know doing when they're playing bald backyard with you know with their friends or with you know with their dads bombs and the brothers or sisters. It's what every kid dreams of doing when they're you know thinking about You know if you're if you're a kid playing baseball you wanna be the you want to be at the plate or on the mound with a full cow bottom nine world series on the line is. That's like a quintessential moment in sport. That every kid you know dreams up in their backyard they simulate over and over again with their their friends. Growing up so Yeah it'd be perfectly honest. One hundred percent i wanna see. My teammates succeeded You know win the game themselves quote unquote but at the exact same time. I one hundred percent want to be a part of that. You know in kind of a more selfish way to be frank. I i love you live. You live for when you were a kid. What do you think when you think about moments like this And being sort of cool is louis riddick. Set on the telecast. That guy is an absolute sniper. And where do you think that comes from in your life in your past. You know it could be what i was just talking about. When i was in middle school and high school i starting to learn how kick a ball street i remember trying to emulate abdo -tarian seeing what he had done in the snow. Lead up to that You know the the snow the tuck rule game him put that game away with two with two of the biggest kicks that ever been by a kicker in unseen. Him you know do the same thing in the super bowl set it's seemingly several times over Probably started the genesis of that that feeling about ideas probably as a kid watching the guys who had achieved you know or rather in those particular types of moments an seeing wanting to do that and looking at viteri and san i. I can do that. Our d. that guy one day in than for narrow. Now it's you know taking it one kick at a time painstakingly paying attention to the details. Of how do i give myself. And ultimately whatever team is playing for the opportunity to be successful in those moments you know. It's one kick at a time one day at a time. It's such a tedious process at times. But it's also you know. Part of what builds confidence in a performer. At the highest level is paying close attention to every single little detail. So that i give myself to be one. I give myself the opportunity to be one of those thirty two guys. That's playing in the nfl on any given sunday and then from there on out it's not even about being one of thirty two as being one of one. It's not being better to myself yesterday. Being better than myself the previous kit gap. Pat blocks in the game. You know ultimately that is something that you just have to like. Put away and forget about but you know if you if you don't just absolutely pour yourself into the process and learned learn to love the you have a love hate relationship with the the monotony. The you know the. I guess the the difficulty universities. Like if you don't learn to the love that then you know you'll never you'll like in my mind. I would never have an opportunity to be one of thirty two or one of one or you know one of someone. No one else has ever seen before in this for it's You're you're standing at about the forty eight yard line cleveland's forty eight yard line seven seconds to go in this game. You're in cleveland ohio. It's eleven thirty seven. Pm on december. And i wonder what's the atmosphere like. What's hitting you zid. Feel wendy does feel. Are you freezing. Dehere here any fans explain to me. Standing there at the forty eight yard line with all eyes on you and eighteen million people around the country watching this moment. What exactly are you feeling when he when you bring up every single one of those details as yesterday to press conference it just makes me now way more nervous than i ever was a moment when about the you know forty eight yard line. I think about it now. I'm really glad. I made that kick you know for for all the all the things that you you just mentioned you have to consider them acknowledged them lean into all of the emotion that comes with you know digesting all that you know. There's a right to left in our face. Crosswind explain what the win was. At that moment it was pretty consistent. I i couldn't tell you the the speed. But it was a pretty consistent. Crosswind that i knew i'd have to aim the ball. You know just inside the right upright from that far away to give it a chance to stay within the framework of the uprise when it crosses the the end line So are aiming essentially all of that stuff. That we're talking about leans into okay. What are the nuts and bolts of. What makes what is going to make this kick good so i consider the fact that the fee oldest completely tore up as is really soft where i'll be planting. There are probably about three foot. Four foot wide panels of saud going lengthwise down the field all the way down the field In between the hashes and each one of those panels has little scene in between that panel of the best. So if i plant in that seem my foot it will be as good so we need to make sure that wherever sand spots ball. I'm going to need in. It's a matter of inches at england. Plant where real turf is not team correct. So you know. We consider that be considered a wind. Weekly pick an aiming point through the uprights that small and stationary and From from there. And it's just a matter of the mechanics of executing my technique. You making plant is wide and square to my target wine. Hit the ball on the that big bone on the right on my right foot and following through straight down down the field Target line all of those things that we practice that i've practice inside was essentially in high school and tried to improve on or perfect day in and day out In an trying to squeeze all of that in two to one point three seconds is obviously. It's a it's it's an obvious challenge but it's you know it's it's the one that you have to learn to love as you know the the thing that you have to like lead into in buy into and in relish and enjoy In the nuggets. You know we know that. Doing all of those things gives us the best chance to make kicks especially at the end of y'all at the end of the game win. The butterflies can be You know they're not just in your stomach but they're trying to like break out from inside a year so if you if there is a polar heart monitor on you at that moment while you're waiting for the snap to come back and you could read your heart rate on your watch. What would your heart rate have been. Would you guess at that moment. There's no way of knowing I would. I would guess right before the kit it would probably be you know eighties meet. I'm gonna my heart rate's gonna in increase. I would think a little bit. This is actually really interesting when you look into that. Because w w w what is your heart rate normally like maybe sixty eight something like that. I when i was playing soccer back in the day my resting heart was probably like the upper forties low fifty s running all the time. But right out really have to do that anymore. So yeah it's probably probably like mid sixties a. But if i if i had to guess yeah probably the eighties. I can tell you that You know i as a as a dinosaur in this league as a thirty one year old I'm probably less concerned about my heart rate and more about my heart pressure. Having to have dealt with as many tough kick says have him in my time here in baltimore but You know again. It's just it's just part of it you know. It's it's something that i wasn't hanging about before but now i'm kind of interested so you know who knows. Maybe that's gonna be the next the next thing. I will take us from young ninety point. Seven or eight percent or whatever it may be too young ninety one or ninety two. You know every every little detail matters. Were you confident. When the ball i was i felt like i hit the ball. Pure it looked like it would have been good from sixty five. Who knows you know. It was just a perfect snap. Twelve o'clock laces. i could see the ball the hallway there the way we throw the ball over the spot in sam gives me a purple. I've said it before the the ball could kick itself at that point You've got to have the one thing. You gotta have as a guy with a little bit of ability back there which i do believe i has but a as soon as the ball my foot. I knew it was really really good. Chance in the ball. Got got to halfway to three quarters of the way there. And i i can see the ball kind of you know hitting its apex on. Its flight in started to go going ramped. It's started to tail left pretty hard and I saw i saw callejas over at the left wing. His arms straight up in the air because he's pretty hard to miss our lives. Ambler your big defensive end. Yeah he's like seventy so. It's kinda hard miss but i i see him like that off he. I mean he could probably see. You can see over everybody you know. He's probably pretty good vantage point so he saw. It's good that it's probably get what i thought was really interesting. Is that you know the cameras were on lamar. And lamar ran out and lifted you up. Did you see him coming. What what did you see after you made it. He did surprise me. A little bit came in. He was coming in hot but man. You love to see that like. That's another one of the biggest. The biggest reason you play the game to be a part of winning moments with your teammates when your coaches with you know the guys that you work so hard with day-to-day out so to see the joy of lamar's face Mark ingram was one another. I guys out there on the field And then you'll look like stand in the sideline real quick and just seeing how Elated you know my teammates and coaches were. That's why that's why you play the game. You know it's it's moments like dad and seeing how you how that that feeling bring the bring so much joy so many people you know through that you know just like a spirit of good competition. It's you know it's a feeling that is almost second to none. Was there a moment either. After that on the field in the locker room on the bus on the way to the airplane on the plane on the way home. Was there a moment. That was stick with you for the rest of your life honestly. I'm so sleep deprived right now. It's kinda hard to pick a pick a senior moment. The whole thing is kind of a blurb. I mean part of that is we got it. I got hogan four. Am this morning and aggregate. You're like there's no way that. I was telling everybody on the bus ride in the locker room after the game. All basta like i'm not sleeping for the next three days i'm gonna be way to wire and i think it's not the same way so it'd be it'd be hard for me to pick one moment that stands out I feel like you brought up a really good one though with like lamar running on field as a place with confidence so much emotion you know you can. You can see that. The game of football brings him so much joy into take part in that all of us with with two seconds left. You know after seeing how ball go through at midfield asser everything that our team had been through not just in that game but over the last several weeks. We've just been through a lot and to see you know such excitement from my teammates. My coaches it's hard to pick one moment but all of it is really special and and you know what we do it all over again this week and then the week after that in week after that and it's daunting it's challenging and all of those things but it's also just the most awesome stuff ever so all that last question for you you have been your team for the last couple of months. Basically has been ground zero for covid crisis at least in the nfl quite honestly it hasn't really been a crisis in the nfl. You know you're through now. Fourteen weeks and there are no games to be played in the quote week. Eighteen and so the league i think is probably handled it pretty well but what river everything that your team has been through. Are there any scars on your team. Because of you know maybe maybe ones that are not visible You know the the the the fact that we're having football season in the first place is a blessing. there's a lot of. There's a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes between the pa league and all parties involved The medical people. there's there there's there has been a lot of really really good intensive work done to ensure that we could even start offices and let alone you know. Complete one on knock on wood there because we still got a couple of weeks left Hopefully we have many more weeks less but This this football season has been particularly particularly trying I'd like to think of myself as someone who's mentally tough if you will but i can tell you i've been challenged just with the you know some of the feelings of isolation and monotony and every day seems kinda like the last in groundhog. Day effect that i think Across the league. I think a lot of people are experiencing But if our complaint is that where you know. A little ole tired a little A little worn out mentally emotionally. I think that pales in comparison to what sony people are dealing with out there. You know how many families are going through some of course. How many folks didn't have you know a brother or sister or a son or daughter or a mom or dad at the thanksgiving table next to him or how many people are not able to celebrate thanksgiving in a traditional sense with all your friends and family in one household. How many folks are sacrificing in giving so much of themselves to fight this pandemic on the front lines talking about like healthcare workers or delivery drivers in any and all those folks in between so again if our greatest struggles in complaints are enter their valid ones. They're they're real but if it's that we're retired or You know emotionally worn out or it's you know some guys that have contracted the virus recovered. That's that's that's incredibly trying for for those guys as well. But i think it's important to keep it in perspective that things can be. Thanks could be significantly worse for for for us as we see them You know to keep to keep those. Those folks that are strongly with The more syria ramifications that this pandemic has kind of brought upon all of us in a sense just integrity. You've been a great guest you You've been on a historic podcasts. The first ever televised peter king. Podcast i have to say i have to say it's gotta be bigger than just making some fifty five yard field goal in a football game but anyway i am so glad that you're able to join me and also really to take people onto the field in one of the great games in recent. Nfl history. So thank you very much thanks man. It isn't honored be on the first. 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Back on the podcast. So happy to be joined this week. By steve kornacki Who i can say now. I actually work with football night. In america and at nbc. Sports steve. i don't know. Did you ever think you would be working for nbc sports. Yeah i can't say. Peter this was this was something. I expected You know but the very happy to be doing this is. This has been a really exciting couple of weeks for me. Yeah in all a bunch of people have written to me in my column and they said had had it steve kornacki in what. What is steve. Kornacki background in football in an mean. He really knows about football too. And i've written back to a couple of people. And i said you know it's okay to know something about more than one thing you know. That's that's that's really okay. But i thought would be good for people is if we could sort of go back into your life a little bit and tell everybody wear your football either. Love like whatever actually started sure. Yeah no i I grew up in massachusetts So i think you could probably figure out that makes me a pass fan in up in In the new york friendly part of massachusetts western mass. I'm you know about thirty miles outside boston so i grew up a pats fan. Although i try remind people. Because i know sometimes i get looks for saying that i grew up. In the pa- the patriots rate terrible team will be two in fourteen. One in fifteen was before bill. Parcells got there before they got lead so in eventually. Brady bella check. Go all happened. So is a fan in the days when you couldn't see him on tv listening wbz radio if you want to patriots game But that kinda got me into it You know. I can't say that I went to college at boston university. I can't say that did much for my football interest ended up cutting the football team. They're year they cut it on moment coming weekend which i think tells you a lot about while the interest level was at boston university Although i guess there's a great there's a great piece of trivia that i think kurt warner's final college game was played at boston university a one aa tournament game right before they how. That's pretty incredible. Wow so you you basically grow up in a time of what steve grogan with your who were your your your roquette. Hurry you're patriots guys grogan. There was tony recent. i remember. Tommy hodson i remember well the one for me. It was the my favorite player. All will always be. Doug flutie 'cause in there in that period is one thousand nine hundred eighty eight season Flutie stepped in and there was a little bit of foodie magic they. They ended up missing the playoffs by one game but they overachieved he got him to nine and seven. I think a lot of kids like me just became huge. Doug flutie fans and it was right after that pretty much when he went up to canada just didn't work out with. Ads went up to canada and it was always this especially as the team descended in the next few years to the that it did it was like boy. They should the governor. Doug flutie of only the He when he came back about a decade later late nineties to the bills. You know when you had that basically two year run there. i will say i was. I was kind of a bills fan for us to tell you what was really interesting about flutie up in buffalo. I remember going up. I think i did a cover story on him for us. I one one time and I just really wanted to see. Were there truly flutie flakes on the store shelves in buffalo sar winter. Grocery store yes. Indeed they have a huge stock of flutie flakes in there. And i always got the feeling that doug flutie in that period of time You know hit. He'd been born twenty five years later. Who knows thirty years later. Maybe i mean. Look i can tell you i stand next to cuyler. Murray and i'm a half inch. Taller kyler murray. I probably stand next. Doug flutie i may maybe an inch taller five eleven so i i really think that sizes them hurt doug flutie because people say i'm not getting i'm not taking a quarterback is whatever. He was five ten but he was a magnetic fun. Exciting cool football player. And i'll tell you. His teammates loved them as a great leader too. But it's fun to watch. And i swear he made right. He made the team better. They want that was just. It drove me crazy. I remember the whole thing in buffalo. Got benched right before the playoffs. Rob johnson and rob johnson Everything you're saying prototype quarterback exactly and it was they still the you know buffalo. I guess you probably know the story. I always heard was the owner. Insisted on at ralph wilson but they still looked at rob johnson. Saidthis is an nfl quarterback. Doug flutie even though he's won. Twenty games in two years is not an nfl quarterback and no one was happier than me when the music city miracle happens. Yeah that was that was interesting With steve kornacki steve. I want to ask you a little bit about where your love of politics really came from where it started. Yeah it's This is going to make some more massachusetts references here. So i'll give everybody a fair warning on this one. But i was in. I was in middle school. I was in sixth grade. This is thirty years ago now and we did a basically a class project. Mock election and i I portrayed one of the candidates for governor of massachusetts nineteen ninety s name was john silber and some folks may know the name he was. He had a national profile. He was the president of boston. University is very active national. Very outspoken is a democrat. he was very conservative. Democrat running against bill. Well the republican was a very liberal. Republican go well you know still around. These days he was. The weld was the libertarian nominee for president in nine twenty sixteen actually ran in the republican primaries against trump this year. So i was john silber in that election and it was. It was a these. Were two As i've come to appreciate the sense these were to sort of outsized characters and it was a fascinating campaign. Well ended up winning the real election in massachusetts. So aubrac i. I did win a silver in my in my school election. It kinda got me hooked on it and then two years later in nineteen ninety-two A guy from not far from where i live. Paul songas who was with senator from massachusetts ran for president in nineteen ninety-two and he won the new hampshire primary and was a brief moment when it looked like he might actually beat bill clinton be the democratic nominee. And that was just me as a kid kind of being interested in politics. The have essentially a hometown guy. Running really think kicked up my interest and i filed that campaign so closely and i was. I was crushed when song lost in all this stuff. And i think i kind of was interested from that point forward and where did where exactly did tv enter the picture. So i kinda you know. Accidentally you know my first job in journalism was was covering new jersey state politics. This is back in two thousand and two. And i went down there. It was a print job was was. This was a novelty at the time it was online but it was writing stories for an online site the votes in new jersey state politics and i just got to know somebody who hosted a weekend. You know political talk show in new jersey politics so he brought me in and made me a part of the show and you know so. I was in new jersey for a couple of years. Doing you know covering state politics doing that. Show and i kinda got comfortable with. And i said this is something i actually kind of enjoy actually would mind more of this and so i started kind of looking for opportunities there It really wasn't until ten years later. That i did anything fulltime television now. That was coming in here in Twenty twelve yeah. You know what was what sort of interesting about your career. Is that if you look at your resume especially where you've had so much stuff published you know. The wall street journal new yorker observer daily beast Salon certa surprised. You became kind of a tv person really a different kind of tv person. But could you have stayed with say on the on the print slash digital side or. Was there something just calling to you about doing television. Yeah no i mean. I certainly could have or at least you know tried to because i think until i say i got in here and twenty twelve i it was. It was a bit of a surprise to me. It was a big surprise to me. I got in here and You don't have the opportunities that i've had the last I guess eight years. It is now So i certainly we're my head. Was you know within the last ten years you know was that i this was my career was going to be some form of print and you know what would pack kind of be that way. I will say though. I always Especially once i got a taste of new jersey. And you know i. I always had a particular interest in election nights and Sort of the excitement and the drama of watching the votes. Come in in in this picture. That is kind of slowly developing in front of your eyes Trying to figure it out as that happens in all the rituals and ceremonies built around election really fascinated by that and i was. I was always hoping for a chance to to to play a role there in. That's next twenty. Fourteen ended up being. When i got that shot here at the you're enemy see now is Again that was. That was a surprise. That was lucky through conferences. Burgum stances very excited to get and how how was that. I mean really. That's not a new invention standing up and looking at the map and and everything but is there somebody who you watched and who you thought was really good at that aspect of doing tv and maybe let's discuss a little bit about where you've taken it as well. Yeah no definitely. I mean the answer is is tim rustler. It's it's i love going back in and just watching you know Going through the archives. The best thing i have here. I'm in my office. now you know. Nbc in in the best thing about this job for me. Is i have access to our archives. And i get it right up on my computer screen and i love going back and watching You know old election coverage old newscasts old today shows you know from the sixty seventies eighties nineties and just getting a sense of sort of the evolution of of the medium. It really is striking to me when we talk about election night is as we now kind of all experience it. You just went back twenty years. I mentioned tim russert. Twenty years ago with bush gore. It was the florida recount. it was the endless election. All of that you watch our election night coverage ain't really have a touchscreen russia wasn't there at the touchscreen saying at this conflict you know. They had a board where they would. Actually you know. i hate easter. Whatever you know. This is the bush they this is the gore state and of course russia was there narrating all of it and i think he was a riveting narrator. And that's what really drew me in. I think his presentation was just extremely compelling he mixed Just a deep knowledge of the process deep knowledge of the states of deep knowledge of the players. Which is a real skill at narration. So i think it was just. He was always captivating to me as a as a presenter but tech from in terms of technology the most famous artifacts twenty years ago the most famous artifact of the news coverage is rousers because they needed him to write on something and he couldn't write on screen. They didn't know how to do that. They gave him a whiteboard and he just wrote florida. Florida florida on it as it all came down to that state. I think that's in this miscellaneous now. Well i got a kick out when we talked a couple of weeks ago. And because i'm totally fascinated how you know all little counties in america in these really important states you can go into wisconsin in. You can say okay now. Dane county is really important. Let's go up to northeast. wisconsin brown county. That is going to be a vital part of this state in this election. And you're just telling story and look that's like somebody who may be knows college football and might say. Yeah you know in eugene this saturday you know where oregon would be playing or or or whatever basketball game you know in kingston rhode island where university of rhode island. They'll be playing providence this week or whatever you know those counties so well you've gotta tell me did you one day. Just sit there with a book of counties in the united states. And say okay. We're gonna study suburban milwaukee today. I mean that's honestly that's part of it. I met my desk here. And i i have my this. Is my drawer with you. Know if folks are watching this can. Yeah they're watching it. I don't read this. This is this is north carolina. This is my prep work for north carolina. And i've got the county's coded here probably six different ways on this map. It's past voting history. It's demographic features it swing from twenty sixteen at twenty. Twelve of twenty students was in preparation. You know for twenty twenty And honestly it's a lot of staring at. He's perhaps it's a lot of drilling down on the counties that i know are going to be important really committing their voting histories to memory. And the other thing. I think it's just part of this. You know i've been doing it on air since two thousand fourteen. The midterm elections in two thousand fourteen. And so this is a process. I've been using now for a number of elections and it just starts. I think there's an accumulated kind of recall or knowledge. That just takes hold where it's like. I i find myself talking about the same counties every two years in whichever state were in and so. It's like i've been kind of. There's this story that's kind of being written about. You know the different counties these different states every two years. I'm kind of updating. So sort of how i feel so you know i can remember talking about you. Know montgomery county pennsylvania in twenty sixteen suburbs of philadelphia. This is the okay clinton's getting good number here. But i think she might have wanted better. I remember about it. And then twenty twenty. I remember looking at the same county and saying okay. Biden's getting the number Hoax she could have gotten out of montgomery county. And that's why biden's winning pennsylvania when clinton couldn't but You know it's doing it won. Election builds a base analogy for the next one div tend study states. That are gonna be more in play and more competitive. Because i mean why would you study mississippi or or or or why would you study new york state for instance because those probably are not going to be in. Play no question you know. I am much more Now i where i will get the knowledge like alabama for instance is one where i spent very little time on alabama in the run up to twenty twenty but we did have a very competitive Special senate election there a couple years ago. If you remember. Roy moore the republican doug jones. The democrat won. That was a big event. So i do. Have you know i do have a you. Know some some alabama on my mind but it's not gonna be fresh because yet in the in the days weeks months running up to twenty twenty it's north carolina it's texas. It's florida it's ohio. Iowa is the states that. I think i know we're going to be talking about. I wanna make sure i'm solid on. You told me a story about a couple of years ago. You took a little trip with your father out to the mid west. Tell me it was. Some combination sounded like it was some combination of dad time in homework. Tell me about true. Yeah honestly and is it. It's perfect for this. This podcast too. Because the dad time was we went to canton and we went to the nfl. all things. so i i want to do that. We we got to do that. And then the homework time was The the what made me think of it was. We'll besides like doing road. Trips semi dad would like on the hall of fame so that would be a good thing in the other thing. That was coming up at that time. This was the summer of twenty eight team was there was a special congressional election coming up in the twelfth district of ohio which is it sort of columbus area. It goes a bit to the north of columbus. A bit to the south that gets as far east as zanesville I said you know. Let's let's go see the Let's go see the twelfth district and And we saw some the rest of ohio as well. We kind of You know we got a good taste. Got out to date. And i was telling you we got down to the athens. Ohio university is But really focused on the twelfth district Because i wanted to get a sense of it you know there was a chance we were going to be doing some pretty heavy coverage of it and i said well let me be ready for that and then know highest one of these states where You know. I've spent a ton of time covering i don't think i've really you know really seen it. Let me let me just see it and it was. I think that's the You know there's a value in that it's sort of like It's not like i was going to allow these towns than doing six or seven interviews with people but even just driving through tend to get off the interstate drive through town have launched somewhere. I do think you get a sense of it you know. I've traveled a lot over the years especially going at training camps. All over the place. I always try to do i want to. You're probably aware that john madden Took a bus across the country he never flew and so john madden one time i got to take the bus across the country with him from his home in pleasanton california to he lived at the dakota when he was on the east coast so we lived right in so that took about three and a half days. But i'll never forget we stopped in carney. Nebraska one night and went into a steakhouse and madden is sitting across the table. And it's honestly. It's not the best steak you've ever had. It's not the best steakhouse you've ever been in. But madden looked across the table at night and he said how great is this. We're eating dinner in carney nebraska. It's fantastic. He said nobody gets to eat dinner in carney nebraska and he said now if somebody talks about ham from carney nebraska. Hey i've been there any just so into actually boots on the ground knowing everybody. He has great disdain for people who do not try to get to know the united states you know. He just loved that aspect of his job. And everybody's man. That's three days on the bus Green what would i be doing. I'd be sitting in a hotel or sitting at home or take the cowboys in the giants. So i'm on a bus. Doing it for does matter. He said i'm getting to see the country. But what's your. Do you have any wanderlust about the united states. Any of that sort of love of of the country of actually the country not just the cities in the country. Oh yeah no. I and i love. I love driving across the country. You know and i. I haven't gone to do it a lot. But i've done it. You know probably three or four times. I love it That's that's a very that the madden story. There is an eloquent way of expressing. what what. It's kind of appealing to me. Yard thing. I always always loved doing as a kid and i still find myself doing. If i'm driving around somewhere especially when you get outside the city i always loved as a kid Late at night when the sun went down where i was at least a massachusetts the am radio dial. Yes you could pick up stations at thousand miles away but this is i was a kid is we're talking about the nineteen ninety s. I'm sorry there's a phone going off your district. When i was as a kid talking to the nineteen ninety s the internet was just kinda starting up. So you know. The internet's had this ability to connect you with different people in places all around the world. You'd never would have before so it was magical for me. Free internet to turn on the radio in groton massachusetts and i could get wb b. m. in chicago. Yeah it radio station in detroit I just i never cease to amaze me. And i remember just a couple of years ago in the twenty sixteen dentist south carolina for primary republican presidential primary. And i was driving from we're. We're i was in york county which were rock hill as i was driving from there back to colombia. Where it where we were stationed as on the stretch of highway. Not much around. I said i'd bet. I let me see if i can pick up and did. Wbz in boston. Ten thirty am in south carolina. I'm listening to the station. I listened to every morning growing up as a kid. I picked up in south carolina and that that sort of thing is i always thought again. The internet has probably changed his experience or something but i always felt like i was listening in on a different part of the country that i almost like eavesdropping on a different. You know different parts of the country. That i wasn't supposed to be listening to when i always loved that feeling. Do you find doing television that you to get good at it. You practiced a lot or define that to do television right. You just wanna be yourself and you don't wanna play to the camera. I think the second part is is the key the more it's rehearsed in the more you're like here's the line. I 'cause i've done that. I made that mistake a number of times. I think i will come up with a lying. That i wanna use that. I think is you know pay the or worker. Funnier anything I think half the time at least the main line. I'm trying to deliver it on the air as i've already heard it in my head and i think it's much more valuable to To do the research to know the material to build that kind of repetition where. You're just really familiarizing. Yourself with the material and i think once you've once you've really kind of zorg it you'll go on the air and i think you kind of trust your mind is going to kind of figure out where to go with it. And what thoughts to connect. That's how i've always kind of approach to at least with elections. One of the one of the things. I've noticed about watching you particularly this year on election night. The very long election night process is that it would be impossible for you to have any sort of script because crap happens at the speed of sound and so you have to just simply you have to just be somewhat knowledgeable and hey let the chips fall where they may. It's funny. they were standing in the studio. It's a corner of the studio where the board is and they've got the Is basically a hand held camera in front of me. But it's got a little screen on it for the teleprompter and always asking me. Do you want the teleprompter on for this. You have to show up to do these. Hits and tell them that there's trust me. There's nothing there for these our just we're just to wing it and we're just gonna kinda improvise. It's actually Terrible in the occasions when they've had me standing there and they've put a script in there for some and sometimes you need to 'cause you gotta read announcement or something it. It comes off totally differently. I'm not good at reading it. You know it's very stiff. You could tell them reading something. And i'm kinda squinting to to make it out. So i think they've largely figured out with me. Let's let's just let him go. You know what do you think. Is we record this today. Basically the electoral college electors are meeting all over the country and formally announcing will formally announce the next president joe biden. What should america learn from this contentious. Time is very hard time in our democracy yet. It's a it's a good question i mean. Look there's been there has been more for lack of a better term. There has been more noise on in the wake of the november election about the process About what happened on election day about what is happen. Between election day in the inauguration. There's been more noise more chaos than you've ever seen in modern times. But i think the important thing to realize is that rule of noise in the midst of all the noise. The process is still playing out in his playing exactly as as scripted exactly as prescribed in the constitution. Exactly as has been practiced before that is what you mentioned the electoral college today. I mean that is. That's always happens. You basically a month. After the election state after state they get together and they ratify. What happened on election day in january. That will come before the house. The house will vote to accept the electoral college results. In a couple of weeks later there inauguration Of a president or all of the noise of the last month Everything is supposed to happen needs to happen. Structurally procedurally is still happening. I think none of that has changed will will end with this stephen. Thank you very much for being my guest I'm wondering what it's like now for you to be famous. You know you probably had no desire. No thought no discussion with anybody. Hey how do you handle fame. But so what's it like to be famous now in probably to walk on the street and people saying hey steve kerr naked love on tv. What's what's that like for you. You think you're right. I this was unexpected. And i'm not a not quite sure i feel about it but i think it's a good time for this to happen. Because in the middle of a pandemic there aren't too many people on the street I'm not exactly going into restaurants or anything. So i haven't had a ton of experience you know i had some people come up to me outside. I walk to and from the office and it's good. I think it's it's great to hear from people who who enjoy what i do in say. Nice things but i also i think my sense to this very much is it's fleeting fads. Come and go tastes. Come and go so i enjoy it for a few months and You know in a few months. There'll be other obsession. The culture will have other things it's fixated on and you know. Hopefully i'll still be doing some things i enjoy. You know as i watched the election. This year I found myself. I watched a bunch of fox news. Because look i'm a democrat but i watched a lot of different kinds of news so watch the election on fox. I watched it on. Cnn watched nbc msnbc. And so i really really enjoyed it. I will end. It was so interesting to watch you on other networks. And i'm sure other networks. Were interested in watching. You compare it to john king. So are you in any way like a football coach would do. Which is you watch arrivals. And you try to get ideas or you. Just see what they're doing. Do you ever find yourself watching other networks particularly around election time to see. Hey when john king is doing hey do you ever do that. I probably should And i honestly don't the thing that i In the reason is it's a it's it's probably very dumb reason. But i am almost afraid of welsey because i will. I feel like i will see. And i've had this experience in our context. Five things right away that they did better and it'll drive me crazy that i'd do them and election only comes around every major elections. You know not every week. So it's not like i can just tweak it and change it next week or tweak it and change its more So it just it. It feels like a wasted effort to me. Because i will. I feel that i will. I will feel very inadequate compared to it. So i prefer to just not engage with steve. You're great your job of love getting to know you a little bit and I'm really happy. You're showing america playoff possibilities on. Nbc right now. It must be like being inserted the play pen of life bud. We're enjoying watching you in having on the network No thank you peter It's truly a thrill for me to get to do this. I'm having a blast doing it. And honestly i i told you this off the air but like i say i've been a fan since i was a kid. I've been reading you for a long time. I'm a fan of year so this is This is a treat to get this james. I appreciate it. Well thanks very much. Steve much-appreciated in much success to you. Thanks thanks peter. Our thanks to just tucker steve kornacki for being the inaugural guests on the peter king podcast television version on peacock wanted to tell everybody who you know six. Pm every wednesday. Watch and listen to the peter king podcast on peacock and also. Let's say you don't have a television if you don't have a television and you don't wanna watch peacock for free by the way if you don't have a tv you can also get the peter king podcast wherever you get your podcast either way. Please watch listen and learn from some of the smartest people in the pro football world. Thanks a lot for joining me this week. And we'll be back next week for a french. The peter king podcasts It's a family affair at the pnc championship tiger woods. Mitch's event debut with son. Charley alongside nineteen champions teaming up with family members to play the game. They love saturday on peacock and nbc.

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12/15/20 HOUR 2- Louis Riddick

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Show spent a lot of time in the first hour talking about what could possibly be the best game of the nfl season last night certainly went back and forth and the ravens beating the browns forty seven forty two. They came in as a three three and a half point favored in this game. And a bad beat. Because even if you're there and you go right. Justin tucker kicked the field goal. All right. it's going to be a push. And then the browns tried to make something happen and then they end up with his safety and that is a bad beat. Although i always look at it this way we say it's a bad beat. But what about the guy who goes. Oh my gosh. what's best case scenario. Justin tucker kicks field goal and it's a push browns trying to do something and then the same. I just covered. I just one just one this. We never talk about that. I know scott. Van pelt does his bad beats caisley. I'd like to talk to somebody who benefits from the bad beat or you know. It's a great win there but going in is three points tucker kicked the field goal in mind. It's a push and then you get the safety there. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com. We'll talk to louis riddick. He worked the game last night for the mothership. Get his thoughts on which team will be more dangerous. Assuming both are getting into the playoffs. The ravens and the browns and i would say the ravens because they have the x factor. There's only a couple of x. factors in the nfl when you think about it. Patrick mahomes certainly x-factor factor. Aaron rodgers and factor aaron donald. The next factor. You could look at. Maybe josh allen is getting up. There is one of those x. factors. I don't look at drew brees. Tom brady is x. Factors cuyler murray can be russell wilson. Certainly as an x factor. There's there's a handful of them but with lamar jackson. You have something that is unique. He's not going to beat you consistently with his arm but he will beat you consistently with his legs and you saw that last night running for over one hundred yards and picking up a big win on the road here. Is john harbaugh talking about his quarterback. They played a very good football game and we played a very good football game. It was a game. That's going to go down in history so just proud to be a part of it and really proud of our players. Here is baker. Mayfield talking about seeing lamar jackson. Come out of the locker room with two minutes to go as an unbelievable player. Unbelievable guy i mean is. Work ethic is is unreal. It was like the movie you know. I hate that for trace. Mcsorley praying that. He's he's okay but you know as soon as he went down you could see lamar shot back out on the field. Was you know jeez. Yeah he's a great player. So you know you're going to have to just try and contain them near. You're never gonna be able to stop guys like that. He's a great player. The teams combined for nine rushing touchdowns tied for the most in any game in nfl history. Last time it happened. One thousand nine hundred twenty two. I almost get the feeling that let's say. This was a moving. Lamar jackson goes in the locker room. We don't know why went in there. He said he was cramping up an iv so we we follow him in there. You know the camera dolly is going to follow you. And then he goes into locker room. They put a needle in his arm. And then the iv happens you could hear the crowd a little bit and then all of a sudden. Somebody's he wants to have updates there so we sitting there getting his. Iv who what's happening what's happening. Trace mcsorley just went down awkwardly. take out the needle. A we can't take out the needle and then all of a sudden he wants to do and then he opens the door. And then there's the lights that are on him and then he runs out. And then all of a sudden he throws a touchdown pass that's l. Spielberg probably would have done it. Take out the needle. No we can't take out. I'm gonna take no picks up the needle. Then he runs out on the field. At least that's how i envisioned it last night. I've got to get back in this game. My teammates need me now. It might have been lavar comes in. And he's got to use the bathroom and we got him in the stall so it's probably less cinematic there. You know what happened. He had to go the number two. Oh okay not too hollywood ending. Although it was a hollywood ending because hollywood brown caught the touchdown pass for the ravens there. Yes mclovin unbelievable when he pulls out the cord blood spurts in the air right and with the iv can't be it has to be one of those old glass iv so it smashes to the ground is he's running if one of the bag iv's. There's no sound they're paid the neto out. We can't all do it myself in and then slow motion blood's coming out and then the ivy dripping and then you see him go out and then all of a sudden magic. Yeah paulie. it wouldn't be a similar cinematic. There was a big flush and he's running. There's toilet paper hanging out in the back of his clete. He's the stadium. Yes mclovin the clip that. Look at lamar running in the back. There's actually like a locker room attendant. Who opens a door that almost takes lamar out and they all those other. That'd be the worst case scenario like he had to avoid the locker room attendant. I just saw this tweet. It's funny i. I don't know the person sending it out. Knoll fogelman tweets the rest of the jets games. This season will be on comedy central. That's go. The browns play the giants next sunday night and the browns three and a half point favorites there in new york. We'll have a poll question. I think are we gonna stay with the poll question for the first hour. Seven eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter. Handle the tv show the first hour. I just put up. Would you rather have nick chubb or justin tucker fifty seven percent. Why are we doing that. I think i mean. I don't think anyone wants ezekiel elliott. By the way. I know people would not even want him on the roster. Nothing no no. But i mean it comes out of nowhere with have something. That's a little broader with your fair question. Nick chubb is a breakaway running back and really go but your point about justin tucker being a sure thing is kind of the point. That the best kicker by far the best kicker. Well yeah i mean. It's a point it's a question but it's on. a polk. poll question should be. Who do you think's gonna be more dangerous in the postseason. Assuming they both make it the ravens of the browns. I justin tucker over nick. Chubb people are probably going Yarmuk law it's funny. I think the browns are. I think people are dying to play the browns of the playoffs like there. They were three point. Underdog at home against the ravens are are polyester question. If she scared for the super bowl. I think the ravens are one of those teams. Aren't they because of like you said they're they're unusual. Well yeah. I'm not a i the browns i think if they play a perfect game then then they can be kansas city. They can beat pittsburgh. They can be if i think anybody in the afc but it's a perfect game once again. That's rare that that happens. And that is you run the football you run for at least two hundred yards. Baker has no interceptions play action. And you put pressure on. Patrick mahomes and you don't have to blitz anybody if you play a perfect game like that then you have a chance to win but it's really rare. We've seen teams that play a perfect half against kansas city three quarters you gotta play four quarters perfect game but i think baltimore's a dangerous team because they'll get healthier. You still don't have a lot of weapons as far as the passing game with with baltimore but you know. Maybe it's going to be a lot. More lamar jackson and i think he's going to have to take ownership here. It felt like last night. That's what you've got with lamar jackson. Here's jackson talking about returning to the game. I'm jay star cramp right. I need some now. Help me get better real quick because this this crucial game here you know both teams and wants it back She's helped me out a lot in training on a great job dropping. The ball downfield seem out we start. I saw running out there. Kevin me is fourth now. The office guys kisses. We came out with a victory. Yep it was impressive. It was and justin tucker with the field goal and then you had the safety as well. Forty seven forty two four years ago today we lost craig sager. The nba season is one week away. I saw where kyrie irving was walking back some of his comments. I don't really care you know if kyri wants to talk or not. One doesn't wanna talk. I'm and i. It doesn't change my day but he does. Oh it to nba fans who actually care what he has to say. And he now knows that that it's going to cost him and his team a lot of money and while he makes thirty three million he may not care but his team is going to care and he walked back a comment that he made a couple of weeks ago to when he made this comment. But this is when steve nash. I took over and i went. Ooh this comment is not going to age. Well here's kyrie irving yesterday season amazing and it really is a reflection of the type of person he is. You know in a iq. He has for the game. You know. I think. I gotta take back in terms of head coach few months ago. But it's just like men we have such a great synergy it. Everyone feels like we're coaching one. Another to be better. So i'm grateful for that. Wasn't that difficult. i mean. It wasn't any and he spoke to us. Pawns and i really appreciate that that. The king spoke to us. I really appreciate that yancy as just sort of like well it turns out he has actually coach. Yeah so My bad there's that steve actually. It's kind of a coach. So yeah they're going to walk that one back. I don't think kyri would appreciate if steve nash goes. I'm basically going to play point out there. I'm going to be the brains with these guys on the floor. You know they're gonna listen to me since i'm a two time. Mvp and i'm a hall of famer that wouldn't h well with kyrie. I don't think i had fun watching them. Their game against the wizards. I watched lamelo ball last night. There's plenty of room on the bandwagon here because of his dad. Nobody wants to board the plane. But i will say he is going to be fun. He really is. He's got he's got something they call it. The factor lamelo comply and play at a high level. It comes down to decisions that he makes every time i've watched him. He makes decisions where you go. What are you thinking. And if you're going to have the ball in your hands. I you can't have somebody out there where you go. What are you thinking like. You're the leader. You're the point guard but Can see the open man finally open man. His shot is not bad. It starts low but it's far better than his older brother and liangelo ball. They call him jello. He got cut by the detroit. Pistons and dad was not pleased. He called a them raggedy team jello can shoot. I just don't think he can play. He's he's an elite shooter. But i don't think he's a good player in nba player. Should yes mclovin. You know you always say we'll find the superstars. Do you think will find lamelo in charlotte. I was watching the highlights. I'm like oh my gosh. I kind of forgot a franchise boy you know. It's a low buzz team. Generally will that change. Well you know we found. We've we've found players in different places before we found him in cleveland. Trying to think shock was in orlando with penny hardaway made. It happens but you're able to watch all of these games zion's in new orleans. We're we're gonna find them. The question is will the networks. Bring them to your attention. They make it easier for you to find them and show charlotte on tv. Because up until now you'd show charlotte and go boy. I hope kemba walker gets out of there. All there's michael jordan etta game and that would be just about it but i think that Maybe that they have to be decent. That's the only problem because you can tune in and watch lamelo ball. But i don't know if the team is going to be that good this year. But he is he's worth he's worth watching he's worth finding. I will say that. Let me see anything else. I need to mention here. Dan zion thirty three and a half minutes last. Oh they've turned him loose. I'm rounding up to thirty four. Oh they've learned him loose. Oh i love that. They're turning zion. Looseness year okay. I don't know thirty. Three minutes is turning them loose but great. He plays an awful lot. See say good morning to our partner. That's peacock and you can download the app and watch three hours for free. And you can listen on a great radio affiliates around the country. Numbering over three hundred and seventy-five couple of phone calls in here. Tom in los angeles. I tom. What's on your mind today. Hey i was wondering if you had a chance to. Yeah about the kyri thing. I think it's pretty transparent that one he's trying to suck up all the oxygen knowing that this is now going to be katie's team just like it wasn't golden state and then oklahoma city and also. How long do you think this last. Before katie kinda gets sick of facebook kyrie trying to pass it aggressively create his own headlines by taking all the attention away like acadia is a thirty five game but they wanna talk about hiring not wanting to talk. How long do you think that's gonna go. Yeah but i think katie understand. He has to know who kyrie irving is the. It's not like he got to brooklyn and wait a minute. What's he doing here. Katie loves to tweet kyri. It feels like it's sometimes passive aggressive there but katie does his damage behind the scenes when he tweets out stuff for you tweet something. And then he gets angry and he tweets back at you but i don't know if katie is going. I want my attention here. You know this is a great experiment just these personalities together and it could either be really good or really bad. It feels like i don't know if there's middle ground here but it it was wonderful to see katie back out there because you know. We haven't seen a player like this in nba history. Who is that tall that mobile who can go to the hoop mid range jumper. Great at the free throw line long jumper that there is a i know. We love to throw out unicorn and kristaps porzingis used to be a unicorn. Probably the original unicorn because you just you don't expect somebody that big to be that graceful. His stroke is wonderful and he's he won't end up as the all time leading score but he might be. You know the greatest score we've ever seen from the standpoint of what where he did it how he did it. And look harden is going to be unstoppable for many years to come and lebron's going to the all time leading score probably but there are guys where you go. That he's unique you know. Kareem was unique from the standpoint of he had a ballet type feel to him jazz. Type feel to him hardness. I'm i'm just going to buy a brute force but i do have finesse. Katie is not going to muscle anybody. He looks like the same size than when he was a freshman in texas but to watch what he does in how he does it from different places on the floor. We haven't seen that before and he won't have the most points but we might look at him as you know. That was unstoppable. And they're very few players where you go unstoppable. James harden is unstoppable. Now he when he stopped he stopped. He stopped himself. Kareem to me. Was unstoppable wilton. A previous generation was unstoppable. There are players a you know jordan. I guess at times you know was unstoppable. But you saw something with k. d. and i'm glad it's back but you know you're dealing with a guy coming off an achilles surgery. He hasn't played in a year and a half. And how many. You're going to have to limit his minutes in that will be tricky as well with with both kyrie and kevin durant but to watch them and that's a good team now. The nets are good team. The question is those role players who were stars before these guys came in. How do they sort of immersed themselves back into being just a role player. Instead of i get my touches. I'm averaging twenty game dinwiddie charissa avert like these guys got shots. They got points joe harris and that's tricky as well when it comes to those two coming in and taken all the air out of the room. More phone calls coming up Louis riddick who called the game last night for the mothership. He'll join us is a more dangerous team. Come playoff time between these two. We'll talk to him about that and more twenty after the hour here on the dan. Patrick show twenty. Twenty is changed. The world of sports teams are adapting by well making changes to their stadiums and arenas not allowing fans. I saw. Where the. Nix aren't allowed allowing the media in well. 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There's no moral victories. But i think this football team for the city given the fact that this is a team that had beaten them eight of the past eleven games. I believe it was the past ten games. Something like that and given the fact that the narrative surrounding the browns. There's really not a narrative. I mean it's it's a truth that They hadn't beaten anybody good. They hadn't really stood up really given the quality teams for the nfl. Real good games outside of your playing tennessee. The way they did the week before and beating them they needed to have a good performance. They needed to have a strong. They needed to show that they can compete for three three and a half hours. How long game's gonna take and compete at a high level. Playing exciting brand of football for really people say that's not the same old brown that and i think they accomplished that. And if you know for a play here that's for the not to you know if it wasn't for the fact that they went up against the reigning. Mvp who quite honestly put on like a superman light performance. Last night they get that football game and think people. I think people if you really look at it. And you don't have any kind of grudge against the cleveland. Browns and indoor aren't just predetermined to say look browns or the browns. And they're not. They're they're not going to be relevant again. And you would. You would make that kind of objective assessment but this is different football team and comes fancy has them going in the right direction. Assuming both make the playoffs. Who would be the tougher out I i would probably still say the ravens were still be top out because of the fact that lamar is just so different. He's such a difference maker and what his you know if he's not able to th- really get it going through the air whether it be because he's not on or because the wide receiver core is letting him down in many respects well like the last night for the better part of the game until you know mark andrews and marquees brown. Make some big big-play late. I still think that they have enough on off at the side to give every team of scare because of the lamar because of how especially is just as an athlete overall. I think the defense they were down some players last night particularly in the second during the and it started to cost them late in the game. I think the defense is one. Were able to ratchet it up and they will be able to make enough. Plays enough game changing plays in order to keep them in and lamar nut possessions to win a football game in a single elimination scenario. So i'd give them the not. Yeah i would too. Because lamar's one of the handful of players has that 'it factor and i think the ravens are gonna get healthier here over the next month. But if i'm cleveland's defense like what did they want lamar to do last night. What were they trying to get him to do. Because i still don't know. Yeah that's that's a great point. It's a good point what what happened was with him. They let him gets every time every time they played man to man coverage against their second against their wide receivers and they didn't have good vision on the mar. That's when they got themselves in trouble when they played zone coverage played with good vision on him kept him contained so to speak in the pocket. And we're able to rally him because they had eleven is on them because people are able to play with good vision they were relatively successful. So i think that that's what happens when they broke down. He doesn't give you much margin for error and he took advantage of them whenever they turned their back on them. So speaking i i said that a couple of different times last night that anytime. He's making them pay. Every time they try to make him pay but playing type man coverage against them and seeing whether or not he gets all the football against because he'll just say hey look may maybe i can't get the ball where i need to get it to right now on the passing game but what i can always do. You can always take off and run and just guess you that way and he did that last night. And i think he he does that against a lot of people. He does that against the majority of people he goes against. Cleveland has some work to do. Then there's no question about that they still have some peop- some work to do on the defense side where they'll need some more reinforcements and they'll need to add some guys off season and remember denzel word wasn't playing last night either so i mean there's there's still some work to be done but That's moammar lamar. Has you have you start looking at your roster and going man what else do i need. Are we not really good enough when he makes look like that. Did you have an idea what was going on in the locker room. We weren't so you know what. I suspected that you know maybe it was. You know player sometimes nature call. Sometimes things just happen to where you have to do what you need to do. I wasn't sure. I mean. I just knew this when the ravens kept saying that he wasn't that there was nothing wrong with him. He wasn't hurt. He wasn't injured really. I thought you know it could be a wide range of things. But i really didn't have any idea. Is you know quite honestly. When trace mcsorley went to the football game he was throwing the ball with some good effectiveness. Like minuscule be interesting. Maybe we're gonna see a coming out party to trace mcsorley right here. And then and then they you know he slips and you know. His knee gets caught up. I'm going what the heck is going on. And then you see the markham running back out going. This is this is just nuts. This is high-drama right. It was actually pretty cool. How it all happened. I just won't trace mcsorley. He's okay. I haven't heard exactly what you know. The extent of his injury. But i mean. Lamar told us what he calls. As far as what happened in the locker room. They've never let them in the way he won that game for them before. I mean he didn't win it but the way he's set it up for them. What a heck of a story. Okay have you had. How does that work when you played and you have to go to the bathroom. Yeah so how does that work. You know there's i mean. I'm sure you've heard stories about. I guess it depends on what kind of on the bathroom. You're talking about all right. If you have to go number one so to speak some guys then look man. I play with guys who just go in there. Pammy march larkin's to talk about all the time about guys who just go on their pants. You know right there on the sideline. I mean there. There was no there's no porta. Potty or anything like that on the sideline Gods just take take matters in their own hands and so to speak when it comes to something else for me. That never happened. I mean that's the weird thing in all my years of football. Pop warner always the pros. I don't think in a game. That ever happened. Where i am and i don't remember there being a situation where it became an issue for someone else you know. Usually people took care of at halftime or whatever. But i remember rodney harrison rodney harrison. Said that you just sit on the bench. Put a towel underneath. You and i have never seen somebody do. I'm telling you i i. I've never seen that. But that would. That would be why i would've known about what happened. Believe me man. I would have known but that it just never came up. He's louis riddick pin monday night. Football analyst former pro scout director appropriate and former. Nfl defensive back. Do you hold any grudges with anybody that you played against somebody that hits. You said something like it'll never go away No no. I not not while we were playing. No because you know but now i do know i mean th. There's nobody really that that. I would say that i feel as though you know. I didn't even score with or or something like that. No i don't and the reason why honestly is because i. I know that you know. That's just the way. Football goes man i mean. Sometimes you get them they get you and i think the reason why i felt. I'm good with that. Because as many times i've i've got wacked and or hit or beat or whatever it is i know i gave out my fair share and i'm good with that and i kinda liked it. I liked it like that. I never felt got anybody hitting me dirty or anybody. Tried to injure me or anything like that so it was. I was good with a give and take. Did you ever hit somebody. Feel sorry Yeah i think. I think i did. You know we were. We were When i was a rookie in atlanta ninety two preseason we were playing against cleveland Who played for jerry glanville that and there's a wide receiver who caught a slant route now. The interesting thing about that was that was groggy in that game. You know those were back in the days before you know there was like a real extensive. You know checking on players who maybe had concussions. Or what have you. And i i know i was. I was not right in that game. And i wasn't quite sure i had a couple of big hits on kevin mack and the preseason and you remember how big kevin mack was so every time you hit kevin mack. He's gonna kinda knock you stroz. There's a little bit. And i hit this wide receiver simply because i was standing in the middle of the field. Didn't even know what the defense call. And i just know the ball is thrown her. I just sprinted towards wide receiver and this middle. I mean just hit him with all. I had and one of our defensive backs and name was. Frankie smith was hanging on him at the same time and i knocked the wide receiver out. He's out cold. And i believe he wound up having you know. He's up in some kind of injury to his neck or back and frankie smith who was hanging on in in the corner who's covering the ton. His finger got caught between me and the and it just obliterated this thing and i think that's the time where i felt. Man not only injured the guy one of my own teammates. I am quite sure. I what i was supposed to be doing at the time. So yeah some of those big hits like that you feel bad afterwards but that mean that's just the way you know that's the way the game was and that's the way we played it and that's the way i played it and he didn't wanna see guys get hurt but it definitely you know in the nineties eighties. It was a different type of game. You know back then especially when can came to collisions high speed collisions in the secondary. I mean they were a regular occurrence. You know how that was. Well i tell this audience all the time. If you saw a game from the sidelines you would never let your kid play that game because doubt it is. Just i can close my. I went to a giants game. And i was on the sidelines. When lt was there and that great defensive. I closed my eyes because i wanted to hear a game for a couple of plays holy smoke. Show it was. It was scary. Lewis scared the salad images the sound the collisions. I played with when i was in cleveland. And then when i was in atlanta georgia atlanta. I've played with scott cakes and jeff donaldson. Jessie tuggle case donaldson at safeties pound per pound to a tough guy. Route guys who ever played in the so. I saw scott case leave his feet hit people and the sound that you hear it was like a bomb went off. I played with eric. Turner and cleveland. They're turner was beazely in that category of the you know the late. Great don rogers kenny. Easily ronnie lott. Dennis smith those types of guys who were just michigan vicious hitters vici- and when i played for the raiders at the less year my career. I mean those were. When i went out there every time i was trying to hit people like the jackson hit people like you know. Love them or not. I mean jack. Tatum was probably the biggest hitter of all time. And you're right when you're doing it. It's not that you don't you don't really know how just how vicious it sounds. And when you see your teammates do it or if you're on the sideline you see another depended. Do you realize this is not for the timid man who it's not gonna timid at all. I'll leave you with this. The number of teams that you honestly think can go to the super bowl in the afc and the nfc. Let's start with the afc. They truly believe they could play. They can represent their conference in the super bowl. Yeah well you know. Kansas city chin. Probably will you know buffalo right now. Buffalo's on a mission. And i think they are going to be. They're going to give kansas city all they want in a rematch type scenario and we don't kansas city. Ran ran over him pretty hard earlier in the season. I think those those two of afc or probably the ones who legitimately legitimately say in all different types of environments scenario those those two teams can travel and they can play. You can play you. However i think. Colts are sneaky. Because chris ballard or starting to give them that kind of you know the kind of golden them in that kind of image. Are you sold on philip rivers. No and i think you know. I think in the end when you assess them. I mean i'm. I'm sold on philip rivers as a as a called core. He's done great things in his career. I just don't know if he hasn't enough gas in the tank to deal with a team like buffalo and josh allen lake. Kansas city pat patrick. Mahomes those guys are especially those guys can make. The difference. can't be the difference anymore. And i think that's the difference right Nfc how many teams legitimately can go to the super bowl. You know in a one off type of scenario. I mean i think i think you probably have to count out the teams in the nfc east only. Because you know i. I just don't know if they're ready at. Although you know teams like washington and even the giants i mean. They're showing a lot of grit here late in the season. I just don't know if they're if they're ready to contend with packers because you know. Aaron is just that special in a metaphor going on. So that's one of them. You know the saints are gonna be. There dislike the aig they basically against philadelphia last week. You know they're gonna be there because they can do it all offensively and defensively especially when drew's healthy tampa. I'm not so sure man anymore. About tampa i just don't know i mean bruce says he can that they can do whatever the hell they want quote unquote as far as their identity offensively. I'm just not so sure. But they got to win. Three games on the road though lewis. They're not going to have included vantage exactly. But you know a lot of people in the nfl. Believe homefield. advantage doesn't mean anything. Then i guess it depends where they have to go especially in this in this pandemic get. It depends where they have to go. They have to go somewhere cold weather. Then maybe that's the equalizer. But i i don't think homefield is the same as it is. I really don't. I really don't but we'll we'll see with them. Seattle and then seattle if their defense can continue to come on. Yeah and the by the rams to the rams to me that's right there's a lot more than nfc. There's solid rams. The rams are a down and dirty type. T great defense daily is a great young coach upcoming coats. Be head coach very soon on the opposite side. When sean is in that rhythm and jared goff is in that rhythm with them they will run the ball down your throat with those backs that they have. And then they'll gas plants in passing i. They are sneak off actually. They're not sneaky anymore. People know that sean mcvay coach and they know that they have a solid football team. So yeah there's a lot more possibilities in the nfc. It'll be the steelers at the bengals next monday night. Louis thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time. That's always love on thank you. That's louis riddick the former defensive back former scout director of pro personnel. You'll probably get one of those jobs here soon. 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I'm getting pale but it looks weird and it feels snug so there's a nor'easter headed our way. It looks like wednesday night into thursday morning. And we're making plans in case we have to stay here at the man calf and todd the last time he stayed here at the man cave. That didn't go well because you stayed in a room. Who's very cold with a chair and you didn't move even though it was really cold and then right across the way from the very cold room that i was longing even though is a very nice comfortable recliner was the buzzing sound of the technical equipment where all the boxes and plugs are so all hearing in and i did have the option to move but I don't know. I just stuck it out. Being very cold with a jacket zipped all the way up to my chin okay. What are you going to do on wednesday night into thursday morning and with your permission i would probably join the dannettes zoom in from the house. God willing technically everything. You're gonna leave me alone. You probably be alone for that. One day on thursday but we've established a report. We have with with the now bought around the bread. Foser and how was your commute and when i joined this weekend has the dog. We figure out a way to get some topics going made lunch for todd yesterday. just nice. Yeah that was awful. But you know. Because i thought well i'm making lunch. So maybe i should see if you want something. I'm still hoping that's not going to get this eight to twelve inches. They get a little crazy with the four to the weather. Forecaster never goes. It's only gonna be five inches. They always have to go. Let's be twelve because he won't get mad at them if it's just a couple of inches if it goes the other way and they say it's just an interesting were get niches. But what are you doing on me. I let me get some phone calls in gibbs in virginia. Hi gibbs what's on your mind today what dp how's it going Yeah fritzy yeah looking for a job so if you got one at the At the man cave let me know but not exactly atticus finch checking in. What's up mclovin big to you. Dan for Calling out chris in syracuse. Man i've been meaning to Mentioned him in my last couple of calls and absolute classic caller. We've had some some over the years in wisconsin. I believe it was chris in indiana with. What's up homes. How you live in. Is that correct. That's chris in ohio. Kristen ohio excuse me And jeff in detroit now is killing it. So he's he's getting up there in that Chris in syracuse level but Wanted also mentioned A seven five seven guy. Fear from southeastern virginia norfolk Tian say johnson going down still in a coma. But he all indications that he's hearing and listening to command so We wish for his speedy recovery Wanna ask get polly's Perspective later about Sam house chances being unc. Had such a breakout on offense if that hurts or helps his chances next year being that they have the most potent offense but the reason for my call. Dan is virginia tech is to last underdog if you will to get into the national title And that goes back to two thousand and michael vick's freshman year. Virginia tech began the year at number thirteen played. Fsu started the year number one and for whatever it's worth. Virginia tech finished with a six point one to rating and fsu with a two point four rating virginia tech hop up above nebraska alabama tennessee. And it took two losses by tennessee for an undefeated. Virginia tech team to pass tennessee in week. Eleven and go on and finish ahead of a one loss of brassica team. I don't think we'll ever see that again. Yeah and it also helped. We had michael vick and you know he was great tv. But you know it's an inexact science and it's going to stay that way. Jeff in detroit's hi jeff. What up doe dan. Thanks for all of the positive words out there. Man for real. We're trying to get it together of leaders vaccine out into the man cave and we could go big all. Dp show party and twenty twenty one. Listen brother i have a friend was talking. And that's pointing season. Are you most impressed with. And then apples coach frank reich Coach of the year candidate No quarterback calms down gets philip rivers. We don't know what you have and they're almost at the top of the afc south then you look at the washington football team. Alex smith new coach new regime. It was a lot more drama off the field on the field at this point in the season which organization are you most impressed. All it's washington. It's not even close. Thank you jeff. Like the colts had a very good team. The nucleus is their coach. Gm and you brought in philip rivers. We just didn't know how much he has left in that arm. I still don't know. Washington had the name sexual harassment allegations. 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The Ocho: Cowboys run all over by Baltimore Ravens

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The Ocho: Cowboys run all over by Baltimore Ravens

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We hope you're having a wonderful day. We hope you're happy safe healthy and as much as you. Could you enjoy the latest dallas cowboys. Game of the season the dallas cowboys losing on a tuesday night playing their first game ever on a tuesday. Losing to the baltimore ravens. Thirty four to seventeen the final score. That both feels like not totally representative of the game and both equally representative of the entire game. The ravens were no match for the cowboys. Dallas was never really in this game. I think from a score perspective. They certainly were were one possession down two possessions down things. We're kind of close at certain points. But i always felt like they really weren't. It always felt like they were really far away. Felt like the cowboys. Even though they had more than twice the amount of time to prepare for this in the ravens did that they were just outmatched out. Prepared out talented. This this game obviously featured a lot of prominent players for the ravens. The ravens lost a lot of these players to the covid nineteen list for their wednesday game last week against the pittsburgh steelers but most of them returned and most of them were back and so they made hey. They made their way and they had a lot of fun. They were even laughing at the dallas cowboys. And so there's a lot to focus on it. There's a lot to blame. We're going to do that here on our post game show. If you are joining us live on youtube let us know in the comments. Know what you liked which is probably not a lot. Let us know what you did not like. We already have some people. Christopher lopez says from imperial valley southern california. What's up christopher hopes. Okay street you all this time of year. Hope the weather's nice. I hope it's not frightful as they say. But chris starting us off says we need a defense jalen. Smith is not a star. Here's the thing. Jalen smith is is bad right. We all agree. Jalen smith has not been the player that the dallas cowboys kind of hype him up to be even still continually. I don't think the jalen smith was awful in this game. I thought leighton vander esch actually struggled in this game. The lamar jackson run. That housed was not a great moment for leighton vander esch but yeah. I mean so overall the cowboys linebacker. According to be completely reworked the cowboys safety situations to be completely reworked. I write winners and losers after every cowboys. Game at blogging. The boys dot com xavier. Woods is one of my losers. let's get into all of it. Let's let's kinda start at the beginning though because this game is terrible and his awkwardness. Unfortunate as it was really got off to a very weird start this was supposed to be the rematch for the dallas cowboys. Right dez bryant now a member of the baltimore. Ravens was going to play against his former team for the first time. Does road back to the. Nfl has been well chronicled. Where all grooten for desk trying to see him succeed trying to see. Throw the x. Up again until you were high type to see this game. I think i think speaks out of cowboys fans and that i wanted to see dez score. I wanted to see him. Throw up the eggs against the cowboys and might not have had the same juice as it would have had done that against jason garrett for example but it still would have been very interesting but that was not to be the case dez. Bryant broke the news actually before the game started about thirty games before the game started tweeting. Tell me why they pulled me from warning. I've so i can go get tested. My my something comeback positive. I tested positive for kobe. W t f our thoughts. Our prayers are well wishes with dez. We wanted to be as healthy as possible. This was a huge shock and really kind of sent a ripple effect through the beginning of this game and kind of called the game into question in general and. I don't wanna get political. I don't wanna make this a discussion about how you may or may not feel about current climate but it is so impossible to believe that dez bryant could test positive for covid and not have anybody around him be deemed somebody. That should be taken away from the game as well. That's hard to explain to an average person. That's a difficult proposition to understand. In so a lot of people were kind of concerned it added a really surreal effect to the idea that the nfl said dez. Bryant was supposed to play this game. That's kicking off and thirty minutes. He's he's not gonna play because he tested positive. We'll be back after this. And it'll be time to throw to joe troy for kickoff coming up and it just was a really weird way to sit. Dez was very active on twitter throughout the game. It was a lot of fun. spoke for a lot of cowboys. Fans i think at one point two hundred about to drink some wine and cope talking about his own situation does did have some fun later in the evening on twitter but that does i think speak for a lot of cowboys fans feel right now because the cowboys really bad. The cowboys are three and nine. Now after this loss of the baltimore ravens they have ensured a losing record for the first time since two thousand fifteen in cowboys fans are pissed off. We're bother we are upset because look we all. Let's let's be clear. Let's say this at the beginning of this conversation. We know that this team has bad right. We know that this team is missing. Dak prescott we know that there are talent issues and there are health issues and there are injury issues and there are emotional issues. Dallas cowboys have been through a lot this season. We are all while recognizing of that fact. However it's kind of hard to deal not only with the fact that the team is bad but at the team is seemingly up very little effort your woods kind of headlines that i think And a lot of people really kind of point back to save your comments a few months ago about how you can't give one hundred percent on every play. We talked about that on the blog of the boys podcast network. We do a podcast every twelve hours. If you didn't know you can subscribe on a major podcast platforms because we know that news is constantly changing with regards to the cowboys. I do think that those original comments were taken out of context. I understood would exert your but he really put it in a bad way and so when he'd come out and you play like he did against the ravens it just those things come back to haunt you. Xavier had a moment early in the second half against lamar jackson and to be clear. It's a very difficult thing to tackle into. Stop lamar jackson. But it felt like exhibit woods had a shot on third down to stop lamar into to force the ravens to pump and it just felt like he didn't try hit a really awful penalty in the first really questionable decisions. And so the cowboys right now. Hold the top five pick. If the today at obviously doesn't there's still a month left but it's it's difficult to sort of analyze assess how the cowboys should spend their top five pick because they seemingly have so many directions that they can go. that's ultimately a good thing and a bad thing at the same time lets see. Tiny is double. Oh seven on youtube says rj. It felt like defensively. They didn't even try. And i. it's hard right. It's hard for us to sit here and throw stones. It's hard for us to sit here by the way we would. We would complete those stones against dallas cowboys defense. But it's hard for us to to ridicule and criticise effort right because we don't know the actual effort that's being given get this comment because it did kind of seem like that. It does kind of seem like this cowboys team has effectively quit and is effectively. Just kind of going through the motions. Now there's four games left whatever you know. We're three nine and of the. Nfc is bad but the new york giants one the washington football team won. You know we're kind of out of it at this point. I know that it's mathematically possible and it is it is still mathematically possible but it just it kind of feels like everybody's just fine laying up on the rest of the season and i like to go for it and oftentimes. It doesn't mind well for me but you get the picture you get the idea. It is not a good look for this football team. It is not a good look for mike mccarthy and to be clear mike mccarthy has done a lot and been dealt. A lot really is what i should say. I mccarthy's faced a number of challenges. Every coach's face challenges this season. We all know that we get that. I'm not personally out on mike mccarthy yet but i am down on him after this game. I thought this was one of the worst games. That mike mccarthy has coached so far for the dallas cowboys a of people so far in our comments are down. On andy dalton. I don't think that. Andy dalton played terribly. It was not a great performance. But look. let's let's talk about. Let's get some highlights. Okay let's look at some highlights for a second and then we'll kind of put this whole thing together if you're watching on youtube either. Live or after the fact and thomson donovan wilson. I'd in this game theory in early in the game. Got an interception off of lamar jackson. Nobody in their right mind was expecting terry and thompson of all people to be the one to come away with an interception and he did so kudos to him. The dallas cowboys. It was their only turnover of the game. Nice to see if you're defense as bad if you should be running all the way down to the camera and doing that whole dance but you know. Do what you wanna do and thompson. It's your interception. You can party how you want to another highlight worth showing you michael. Gallup hen scored a touchdown since week. Three back all the way against the seattle seahawks while he caught one here tonight which was very impressive. Shoutout to michael. Gallup shadow mario cooper late in the game very late in the game. Actually amari cooper coty touchdown after the cowboys could not get in with ezekiel elliott. Who jerry jones is said. The best player on the dallas cowboys and assertion. I think he would like to have back. I want to show you this high. Because i think it's important. Justin tucker had not missed inside of forty yards in seventy tries. Joe buck cursed him and finally got him to miss on number seventy one. But justin tucker missing in this context and in fact this kind of steers us into a conversation point that i want to really hit. Actually here's the justin tucker thing again. One second here breath coleman who does a great job covering the nfl on twitter at brett. Coleman tweeted out this tweet. Justin tucker has said a few times that mt bank stadium is the hardest place to kick in the league. Ever since they put in the new scoreboard it change the wind patterns. And now it's swirls more instead of being a static direction wind makes it tough on kickers. I'm curious if you are with us. Live right now on youtube. Do you blame greg's aligned or mike mccarthy more for the broken nece that we saw on tuesday night because i blame michael mccarthy and this is where i really have a bone to pick with him i mentioned i do winners and losers every week after every cow going blog on boys dot com and mike mccarthy is my ultimate loser greg's orleans a loser because i mean if you missed three field goals you're going to be on the losers no matter what but as mentioned it is obviously difficult to make feel even for the great justin tucker at bank stadium and when the cowboys were down by fourteen points at the beginning of the fourth quarter down by fourteen points. Mike mccarthy elects to try to kick a field okay now even if you make this field you go from being a two possession game to a two possession game even in the best possible result world. Your two possessions situation is still a two possessions situation. I realized it was a long fourth dan. I realized the couch often been moving the ball. But you know what. I realized that this particular stadium is difficult to kick. It is so difficult to kick into greg's orland had already missed twice on the night. Justin tucker had already missed once on the night and so to that point. I think there's there's two possibilities here. This was either move of extreme cowardice by mike mccarthy and his staff to try to kick this field right like oh man we're going to do. We can't score. Let's kick a field goal or this was a code right up time to tank time to like a lot of people greg williams did. I don't agree with that. But it was either that or it was. That really is the point here. And so i put that on mike mccarthy and there were a lot of poor decisions in this game the cowboys went for it on fourth down Ultimately it was a better decision from playcalling standpoint that we saw last week against washington but there was a lot of broken this in this game. A lot of you are criticizing. Mike nolan in our youtube. Comments in. Who's who's disagreeing with that mike. Nolan is a huge problem. Right now and mike. Mccarthy has caped for my colon week after week after week after week even amidst the what was it ula or hot sauce. Whatever you got in his. I mean my nolan. This defense was atrocious. And it's different. When teams play on national television and the whole world gets to watch them and gets to roast them and gets the kind of experience it together on twitter etc and. That's kind of this game was this was like the world's trouncing of the dallas cowboys and trouncing of mike nolan's defense. Let's look at the total yards in this game because it was a really impressive performance for the baltimore ravens. Four hundred one total yards. Look at the cowboys. Three hundred eighty eight total yards not a massive difference. Only thirteen yards of a difference. Okay seven point four yards per play for the ravens at the five yards per play for the cowboys one turnover for each team as mentioned the ravens didn't even touch the ball for that long in this game yet. They dominated the cowboys. The dominated them because while they ran the ball so much they ran the ball for a billion yards against dallas. Every run was huge. I mean again. Jalen smith not great in this game. Leighton vander esch knock great in this game xavier woods. Knock great in this game. I thought the jordan lewis played really. Well i thought that noah brown played really well and the offensive side of the ball but overall this defense looks like a group that has just absolutely checked out on the season. Let's see here. I cram says nolan must be the first fire. This offseason people losing their jobs and people getting fired and we all are talking about the dallas cowboys because we all want to see them succeed right. We all want to see the cowboys do well. And we realized that things are not the way that they should be not the way that they could be. It's it is difficult to find even a remote reason to defend mike nolan as the defensive coordinator of the dallas cowboys. At this point they have gotten just roasted. They have gotten embarrassed. They are the game for every team. I mean cleveland ran all over this team looking at washington due to this team twice. I mean this is a team that offensive. Coordinators are super pump to go up against tweeted this out in the middle of the game if you are looking for an offensive coordinator to go against dallas cowboys like forever offense of cornell when you were a kid and you played football in the backyard. And you're like this is our forever quarterback and gandalf. it's to be the forever offensive coordinator against the dallas cowboys. Because you shall not pass you. Don't ever have to pass against the dallas cowboys. I know that. Lamar jackson do an incredible touchdown. To hollywood. brown doesn't matter. This was a domination of the ravens on the ground against the dallas cowboys and the saddest part about. It is that it was extremely predictable. We all saw this coming and think about this for a second. I'm not trying to say that the dallas cowboys should have won this game. They were eight point underdogs depending on where you live. But that was kind of the average spread that made sets the are really bad team. They had won three games coming into this. The ravens while they have struggled are believed to be a team that has potential can get back in the mix and guess what for the next couple of days. The ravens plan monday night football next week. We're going to have to hear all about how the ravens are back in the mix lamar jackson his back and he might very well be but the cowboys are the team that boosts your profile and that certainly happened here for baltimore but The cowboys had twice as much time to rest. And prepare for this game as baltimore did now. I realize the cowboys are dealing with a lot. But look at what we saw on monday night. The washington football team in a very similar situation because washington dallas played on thanksgiving in pittsburgh and baltimore played each other last wednesday so washington had basically the same amount of time to prepare for a road trip. Just like the cowboys did against the pittsburgh steelers the lone undefeated team in the nfl. And what do they do. They went in there. They got that dub respect and a lot of people are giving ron rivera a lot of credit and they should be and again. I'm not totally out on. Mike mccarthy but i am i am inching closer at least two very bit of the middle and so it is. It is difficult to defend mike. Mccarthy it is i mean let's let's put it this way. There's a lot of a lot of criticism for mike nolan certainly in our youtube comments as well as vat snake nineteen ninety nine. Let's party like it's ninety nine cents. Defending nolan is absurd. I guarantee you we're going here. Mike mccarthy defend. Mike nolan this. I guarantee you. We're going to hear jerry. Jones defender mike and ellen this on the radio and that's just the way the cowboys are right. And that's what makes it so frustrating. I mentioned jerry. Jones comment about ezekiel elliott earlier. In the show about how he believes to be the best player on the team those types of comments only make the situation worse right like we all seek struggling. And i know what happened. There at the end of the goal line was not entirely. I know that but my point in tweeting about that and talking about is that jerry puts this magnifying glass with like the sun. Like seed in toy story. You know i'm talking about it with the toys. The evilness of him. Jerry's doing that with the magnifying glass. He's the heat. The level of criticism that his on people like zeke. Elliot and jalen smith and even mike nolan degree. Because we all see this right like we're not idiots. We're all sitting here. We're all reading blog. Boys dot com. We're all on the post game show and we all know what we see against these teams and it's really bad and so for you to come out and tell us to our face. Yeah zeke. Elliott's awesome jason. Smith is awesome awesome. Do we're not fools. We say this we know that they're not good andrea on youtube. Rg jerry and steven. Jones have really improved their drafting with will mcclay but they have zero clue rosser construction and cap management. That defense needs to be completely revamped. Now i agree that the cowboys have had some success in terms of drafted. We agree certainly for a long time. We we still to a very large degree. Have the the idea of saying well. Since two thousand ten the cowboys have essentially knocked their first round picks out of the park. Two thousand ten two now. The aforementioned dez bryant tyron smith clayborn super bowl. Champion mo clayborn travis. Frederick retire now. Zack martin who didn't play in this game byron jones's is in miami zeke elliott taco charlton. Obviously the biggest wave. And then you know you've got in vander esch and you have nobody. Because for mario cooper and now you've got cd lamb and we all know that but let's look for an example. A lot of the problem with the cowboys right. Now is their secondary right. The two thousand seventeen dallas cowboys draft class first-round pick taco charlton huge bust in credit had. Tj what second round pick chew tobacco user who's been okay chewed has been fine and maybe maybe tutor comes back. Who knows what he's been. Okay round pick jordan lewis. Who i thought was maybe the best defensive player in this game so shout at him. Fourth round pick ryan switzer certainly wishing ryan. Well he's awesome. I never understood what went wrong there but moving on in that draft class. Who was maybe the worst defender on the dallas cowboys on tuesday night. Which is really saying something and you got no brand in that class too. So i mean cool but my point here is yeah on the surface. The cowboys have had success in drafting. But those those deep around those later rounds have not gone well for them. I mean look at their who is the best dallas cowboys draft pick from the two thousand nine hundred and class right and i realize they didn't have a first round pick and maybe trysted hill comes back next season in his thirty. And it's better but right now. It is possible that the best rookie obtained from two thousand and nineteen is brandon knight who undrafted and the second best player is what tony pollard. I mean if you're you know this is the nfl in two thousand twenty. If your best pick was running back you know. Unless it's alvin kamara. Something you're you're not really hitting and so while i agree that the draft process has improved. I certainly agree that. The russia construction. The cowboys have have been so so tight. When it comes to free agents cowboys have had no level of foresight as we've seen played out with long term contracts. They lost their contract. Negotiations with zeke. They lost with demarcus lawrence. They let byron jones walk. They literally let amari. Cooper hit free agency. Now that worked out and they have yet to negotiate a long term deal with dak prescott by the way we are having this conversation on the day that the philadelphia eagles benched carson wentz. But yeah i mean there's a lot wrong with this front office management and there's a lot of people who say this all the time right like gm issue and that's a fair take to half and it's a fair thing to say. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach with. Ibm helps retailers supply chains with watson ai while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. 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The dallas cowboys were just embarrassed as you and i said here talking by the baltimore ravens right now. We all know the baltimore ravens to be an illustrious. Nfl franchise the baltimore. Ravens have had a lot of success. John harbaugh become a really great coach. John harbaugh has got hall of fame. Resume this point. Especially if he wins another super bowl the baltimore. Ravens have won two super bowls as a franchise. They'd been a multiple. Afc championship games. The baltimore ravens have had an inordinate amount of success as an nfl franchise. We all agree with that. Do you realize that the last time that the cowboys even appeared in an nfc championship game happened to before the baltimore ravens existed. Okay so think about that for a long second. The entire history and success rise and fall of multiple variations of the baltimore. Ravens franchise has come completely in the time. Following any even appearance of the dallas cowboys in the penultimate game of the season. That is a flabbergasting fact. But it's where we are. And i'm not trying to be the guy that just lives in history. Oh man it's been so long since the cowboys won but we are upset and we are frustrated in this season. Has some legitimate column excuses. This season has some legitimate exclusives. You lose your franchise quarterback and things are going to be rough for you but you look at other situations and other teams have found ways to prosper and that leads to questions that leads to conversations that leads to confusion and then you look at other decisions like the continued promotion of ezekiel king. As you says. Zeke is declining. And i'm not sure if it's wear and tear or lack of motivation. Yeah i mean right now. I mentioned jerry's comment. He made about being the best player on the team. Zeke is not even the best running back on the dallas cowboys at the moment. That is not a hot take. That's just a fat tony pollard. Who really showed up to tony. I killed tony pollard. Early in the season on kickoff returns because he was an unmitigated disaster there. But tony part is kind of turned it around. He fell down on one of them against the ravens. But tony pollard is. By far the most explosive running back on the team. Brian on youtube has rj. What's the deal with. Zeki was better. Than i still doesn't look like the vintage the i know. The line is devastated. But paula looks a lot more explosive. It's time for him. Thank you for agreeing brian. Now here's the thing was the offensive line there bad in baltimore i mean think about it was the offense. I mentioned winners and losers. I had the offensive line is a winner for the campus. I thought the offensive line played very well. All things considered i mean. Think about the fact that this offensive. I was missing zack. Martin who the cowboys placed on injured reserve on monday and the last time. The couch without zack. Martin was when they went to washington and they were so bad. Andy dalton got run over and and had a concussion and so i thought that all things considered the cowboys offensive line held up going off the top of my head at this point but any was sacked once right one and now. It's kind of indies fault. And that's what i think. Andy played okay. I think that overall things were just you know it's it's hard. It's not quite square peg round hole but it's finicky and it's frustrating and it's it's awkward and it's it's just trying to ram stuff and that's just not happening nothing. That's fluid nothing to smooth for the cowboys. And that's a huge part of why they're having so many problems. Not just on offense defense not just on special teams which are still a continued disaster but overall the overall functions of their teams. Now andrei says. Rj don't think jerry jones has a chance of winning another super bowl and his lifetime. The winds were all jimmy johnson. Another kind of thing that people love to say. It's it's hard and you know. People look at the new england patriots right and they're run that they had and who knows if he does end the season but people say oh. The patriots got to play the dolphins. And you know the bills and the jets when they were really bad. And we're really terrible. But i mean like this. This is a chance like the nfc east has not just been bad this year. I know the eagles won the super bowl three years ago. But generally the nfc east has been there for the taking and the cowboys have managed to take it right. They took him in two thousand fourteen sixteen and eighteen. And that was it. That's the end of the road out of the boys to men that the cowboys kind of managed to take and speaking of the nfc east. I don't know that. It is really going to work out for the cowboys. I i know that some of you may have been holding out hope. Some of you weren't quite quite weren't quite ready. See i'm not quite ready. It's difficult. It's difficult to talk about the cowboys being three nine but weren't quite ready to abandon hopes of winning the nfc east and commit yourself to team tank. Let's take a look at the remaining schedules in the nfc. East the dallas cowboys now. Three nine have. It's depends how you look at things. I think the cowboys win on sunday. As we're talking here. Now very late. Tuesday night depending on when you're listening to this or watching this but we're talking live late tuesday night. The cowboys will be in. Cincinnati on sunday to take on the what ryan finley led bengals. That's still a question mark but they'll probably win that game because as bad as the cowboys are. The bengals are worse. Now if you are truly tim tank. The cowboys have to find spectacular. Way to lose this because this game against the bengals whoever wins or loses this is going to be the difference between picking third overall and fourth overall. So if you are team tank you are really looking for a way to mess this thing up if you're the dallas cowboys but after that next week to cowboys will host the san francisco forty niners on sunday night football so if you thought the national dragging cowboys was over think again after that to cowboys will host the philadelphia eagles. Which mentioned is now at different game because of the jalen hurts factor. So it's hard to expect the eagles to be the same disaster they've been under carson wentz and finally week seventeen to was a visit jason garrett new york giants and probably lose that game so think the cowboys win maybe four games meet. Maybe maybe five again. It's possible but let's look at this and the jalen hurts. Factor is very real but the eagles this week. They've got the new orleans saints after that the arizona cardinals and the cardinals are appearing to be a bit more of a fraudulent team than any of us expected. I mean there are crazy. Deondraye hopkins catch away from having lost five games in a row. So you never know. We'll get back to the in a second. But then the eagles are in dallas and then the eagles finish up at home against washington football team. We all think that they will lose that game. It's possible the eagles don't win another game. That is possible truth and they might end up picking higher than the cowboys the giants this week. They have those cardinals at home after beating the seattle seahawks on the road. I don't think you can count the giants out of that game. Which is crazy to say. So you've got the giants the cardinals and the browns. The pilots that they play the ravens. Who cowboys just got destroyed by. Play the cowboys. So you're talking about the giants who are already five winds probably get into seven. I think that's doable. And then the washington football team also sitting on five wins. They've got the san francisco forty niners this week and it's possible to cowboys. Good jimmy garoppolo. And george kittle back. Which would not be fun unless you are tank but for now washington. Football team will get forty niners without them. That is maybe a win. And then you've got washington playing the seattle seahawks and another seahawks loss to the giants. Whatever i don't think that the lose to washington but washington plays the current panthers in the penultimate week of the regular season and that is a big. Let's win it. For ron rivera game and so i do think that washington will win there and i think the washington wins in week. Seventeen against philadelphia. I think the washington maybe gets to eight and that might be enough to win the nfc east ultimately washington should be the favorite. If you're a person who likes to partake in those types of things. But i certainly would not be shocked if the new york giants find a way. Christopher says it's another last season it sucks. I mean yeah that does suck but this season was lost way back when dak prescott hurt his ankle all right. The season didn't become loss. Because the andy dalton led cowboys couldn't get it done or the bend in new zealand cowboys or the garrett gilbert let this season was lost when dak prescott got her and you think about the mountain of injuries at the cowboys have had to deal with it is it is really ridiculous. The cowboys lost jail mccoy before the season ever begin all right. They lost blake jarwin before their first game was over. They lost tyran smith. They lost lyle cons. They lost leading vander esch lost to lose it for a stretch. They're playing without their best. Cornerback right now and trayvon dukes. They lost prescott. They've lost zack. Martin the best center. Obviously travis frederick retired before the season began. I mean connor. Williams is the point of stability on the offensive line which is a crazy place to live here in two thousand and twenty yet. Somehow some way here is where we are. It's it's it's frustrating. I get it. It is really frustrating. Tiny says i'm not tank but yeah how did they tank. The bengals chats are so bad. I agree Look let's see andrea says rj. How can invest in fixed defense when they still have to pay the quarterback. Look i'm there's a lot of life the salary cap isn't real talk and that is a fair point that the salary cap is not this like impending doom that a lot of people make it out to be and like the philadelphia eagles are going to be up against it when it comes to the salary cap and their situation but it is possible for the cowboys to pay dak prescott and find offensive talent right. I mean you know. And i think we think and i want to speak for you here but i think i think that we think that the cowboys have things to work with on defense. I'm not saying they have a roster full of pro bowlers right but like think about the defense on a superficial level. You've got tristen hill back. We all thought he was playing very well before he got hurt for the season in the same game. The dak prescott right okay. Cool you've got demarcus. Lawrence do not be one of the people that's like demarcus. Lawrence sucks whatever. No tank. Lawrence is awesome. You don't have a problem there. Tank lawrence you've got tristen hill. Got randy gregory. Got all smith. If he comes back. I mean you know so. I'm not too. You've got neville gal in his second year so defensive line i'm not super worried about the cowboys will probably say goodbye to tyron crawford but overall not too bad right. You've got leighton vander esch. You've got a legitimate peace to work with who've has had his fair share of troubles but you've got a legitimate peace to work with still in his rookie contract. Jalen smith is a tough situation right. But maybe maybe francis bernard does something special right but the point being you have a legitimate peace there you've got seemingly a star cornerback in the making and trayvon dick's right. You really don't have anything in the secondary secondary's awful right. There's a lot wrong with the state of the secondary. So how do you fix it. Well if you end up with the fourth overall pick you call the chicago. Bears detroit lions. Are somebody say. Hey come get your quarterback right now give me a lot of picks because that's how you fix it. It's going to be more than just you know. The fourth overall pick the fifth overall. Pick whatever the cowboys need a lot of help and they need to your point about having to pay dak prescott in need a lot of younger cheaper rookie contract help because you know. That's that's the dream right. Dissolve the gods got a tank and trade down. Maybe more than once. I agree trade down trade. This is going to be a fascinating year when it comes to the nfl draft because of the fact that so many players have opted out so many players obviously opting out. The season continues to go along the great dane burglar. Last week mocked kayla. Farther to the cowboys obviously opted out. So it's it's hard to know right and it's hard to know what teams are going to value. What because of the incredible uniqueness of this college and really of this year in many ways and so but tanzer the question. That's how you fix defense you trade down. You have a great draft class. And i think that we all think again. The cowboys did have a great draft class in two thousand and twenty. They just faced a firestorm from hell. I mean. that's that's the problem here. I think this is a ball. Take a bit of a baltic. So excuse me. But the dak prescott led cowboys. If you just put dak prescott on the cowboys on tuesday night in baltimore instead. Of andy dalton. I think they win. That game i really do. I think the baltimore played down to the cowboys a bit. I think that you know obviously baltimore still would have scored a lot. But i think that the cowboys would have scored a lot. Let's i think the the dakhla cowboys at least split this series with washington. I think the cowboys philadelphia in philly when benvenuti played right. I think that the dakhla the cowboys you know. I don't know you can go a number of ways here and my point is i. Think the dakhla. The cowboys are maybe smashing some offense of records partly because of the defense and how bad they are but i think that they are at least in first place in the nfc east and so to answer that question a long way. If you have that piece you're fine right like if you look at the seattle seahawks as an example. And i'm not saying that the current seattle seahawks are the bright and shining example of who. You want to be as an nfl team but if russell wilson is on they've shot. We all agree if russell wilson is playing an mvp level. The seahawks have a chance. And i know. I know dak prescott. Russell wilson whatever but act. Prescott is a very good very elite franchise quarterback and so when he's on you've always got a shot. We've seen that right. We've seen that a number of times and so if you can bring that piece in you can figure a lot of other things out or a lot of other. Things will figure themselves out. I should say and so. That's why getting back is such a high priority and it is. It is what it is. Let's see here alden. Smith has brutal after week. Four or five crampy. Says i mean all the smith is again still the fact that alan smith is what it is is still pretty incredible like individually his own story. And we're all rooting for all the story. But yeah i mean the pace. He was never going to keep up. And you know what's interesting about that is that was the talk and there was a discussion ride around the trade deadline that the seattle seahawks whoever it was had called about all its math and the cowboys said no. Why would you say no. If you're season is so bad in you are going to need a lot of cheap young talent in your seemingly ready and well equipped to trade away guys like you're wherever everson griffen i mean why not you know why not pull the trigger there and why hold onto alden smith if that's the case and so whoever was interested i know microphone reported that there was a team interested in alden smith. Why not you know why not find a way to just stock up in pilot. Draft picks and the cowboys will get a compaq for jones. And that'll be awesome. But overall the cowboys need a lot of people. And so you've got to get rid of some of these guys and that was the moment because it was. It wasn't predictable but made sense that alden was going to regress because that pace was just simply unsustainable so it is what it is but the cowboys lost tonight if you joined us light and somehow didn't know thirty four to seventeen the final score. It's baltimore ravens. Hard to hard hard to find anything to be optimistic. I do think that the fact that the offensive line played well is a point of confidence point of optimism in a point of honestly forward thinking. Because you know. The tyron smith lyle lower situations are going to be ones that are going to obviously play a big role in two thousand twenty one and beyond. And you're going to need tackle depth and so the fact that you're getting all of that and the fact that you're getting all these important snaps in these you know points of experience. I think that that can really help. So i think the the offensive line has played. Well is a great thing. I think ceedee lamb got a lot of action in this game. And i think he's obviously going to be a very important piece. The cowboys team moving forward. So that's a great thing. I thought all three of the cowboys. Alpha wide receivers played really well against baltimore. Amari cooper played. Well michael gallup played while they both had touchdown. Cd played walla city. Almost had that hail mary touchdown at the end of the first half by the way this was such a poorly officiated game. I don't wanna be the guy that's like blaming the officials and The officials had it out for the cowboys and everybody hates the cowboys. That's not my take at all But this was a very very very poorly officiated game. And i think we saw that play itself out and a lot of instances and a lot of different moments. But if you are team -taying to cowboys lost and they're now three and nine secured a losing record again for the first time since two thousand fifteen they have. Only i mentioned sort of brief history of the baltimore ravens. The cowboys have only defeated the baltimore ravens. Once one ten one single time. The cowboys have beaten the ravens. It was four years ago. The only time they've ever defeated the ravens was the only time that restarted. Back prescott against the ravens. So call it a coincidence call that effective of life. Caller what you will but the cowboys play. The pain goes on sunday. It's going to be a fast week for them. Obviously we'll have you covered and blinded the boys dot com. We'll be back here actually on the blog on the boys. Youtube live stream if you want to join us wednesday night at seven. Pm central time eight pm eastern if you want to join us. We're gonna talk cowboys. We'll obviously have a lot of discussion about the fallout from this game. Everything going on kind of prep you for the bengals game things to look forward to how the cowboys probably gonna win this thing and what the future might look like so subscribe to the blog. The boys youtube channel. Where putting out. A lot of fun stuff film reviews breakdowns. These livestreams lots of fun discussions. We appreciate everybody That includes us in your dallas cowboys. Fan we all want to do well. And we're rooting for that. You know all the same and so if we can get there together. I think it'll be a lot of fun. Make sure to subscribe to the blog on the boys podcasts again available on all major podcast platforms leave a rating writer review. We put on episode. Like i said every twelve hours later on on wednesday because it is wednesday. Time stands still these days you will have a new episode of talk on the star breaking down what we saw baltimore on a deeper level with connor livesey miller and call patterson so get ready for that for now. Look i know the cowboys lost. And i know that that sucks right. We're all man we're all upset and we're all pissed off but one of the coolest things about the day and age that we live in is that we can all enjoy all of this together. That is a really cool thing. And i promise you and other sounds ridiculous but i promise you there will come a day in the offseason like the middle of may where we will say man what i wouldn't give to complain about dallas cowboys football right now like other sports a cool and there are some but nothing is like the nfl. Nothing like the dallas cowboys. So i cherish these moments. It's frustrating right now. Don't get me wrong but but it is a lot of fun. And i appreciate everybody that makes us part of the ride We enjoy them. We enjoy being part of it with you With all that being said a favor and have the absolute best wednesday of all time. Because you deserve it. We'll see many of my friends is always go cowboys at.

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Best Of (James Harrison on Ravens/Browns, Steelers' struggles, Lamar vs. Baker, Justin Tucker)

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Best Of (James Harrison on Ravens/Browns, Steelers' struggles, Lamar vs. Baker, Justin Tucker)

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Meanwhile mark jackson had to leave the game with cramp skies for almost two whole drives but when backup price mcsorley went down. The mar- came out of the locker rooms. To throw the ahead touchdown on fourth and five conversion right after the two minute warning baker mayfield within tied the game with a minute to go but justin tucker kicked a fifty five yard field goal with just two seconds remaining to give the ravens the lead for good this team the highlights such a good game. We're now joined by fox sports. Nfl analyst james harrison. James and his ben to longer to have you back. But i gotta ask you. How surprised you that. Lamar came back in and won the game in that fashion. Grammy back. listen. I wasn't surprised at all to be honest with you. I mean that's what a leader does cues cramped up. He needed going get re she'll come back out even before he you know he went in. He was already cooking with gas. You know most of the game so for him to come out there and continue to do what he was already doing after he did what was necessary. So body can function ripe. No surprise me james. I was surprised for the simple fact if he had a couple if he had a series to warm up he's coming straight in the locker room fourth and five is that he doesn't get. There's the ball game's over. That's what's most surprising that he got an opportunity because his body calm down wants those cramps released. He was going to be fine. But the comments scrape from the locker room to the feel is fourth and five. Okay what we got here. And they did him a favor they list him up the middle they lead them get to the edge and so now he has a two way. Now you're at his mercy man. Do i come up and take away because he can get the first now or do i stay back and they made a mistake. He thought he got caught. In between what we say james he beat and he hit hollywood brown. But i tell you what. He's feeling in the morning. Because i know you before if almost like you play the game because those muscles are contracted so hard so loan. You actually feel like you play the game. Even if you go early in the ballgame from cramp and so. I was surprised not that he came back because absolutely right. That's what a leader does. That's why they believe they have something they call big trust. They trust him to be one thousand percent but the comeback in under those circumstances and performed like he did who that was like. You said they did. They did everything that was possible to help him. You know to be able to make that play. They gave him the opportunity to do what he does. Best which is used as legs so now. They're in a situation like do i come up and try to stop him. Does he going to run it or is he going to throw it. And you know you guys that don't stick to their technique. You don't like into the guy that you have and you know it becomes backyard. Football guy comes open. He sees him you know and and they're just trying to make a play not not really thinking you know he he. He does what he does best using his legs. And and using this same time. James i want to go deeper with you as i did with shannon to open the show about cramping. Obviously it was cold last night. In cleveland i think the wind chill by the end of the game would have been sub twenty degrees. It was probably twenty eight degrees by the end again. I think start at thirty four degrees so it was a cold night in cleveland. My experience covering your game for many many many years is colder. Gets the fewer cramps. You see because obviously you don't lose quite as much fluid when it gets that cold shannon says that he didn't drink much water so he had trouble cramping even when it was cold so here we have lamar and i want to show the first play that surprised me because this was about six and a half minutes to go in the third quarter. He takes off on a run and he did what you cannot do. As a running quarterback he decided not to slide. This is why. I thought he might have been hurt on this play because he takes a shot if we could plead see the takeoff and the run here he goes to his left escapes the pocket and he says. I think i'm going to try that. And it was a bad idea because he took a shot on the right side of his body on the right arm and espn dot com reported that he felt first cramping in his right arm. Well that's not from dehydration. That could be from some kind of spinal. Jot where you got a stinger down your arm right. Yep okay then later in the again. Just maybe a minute later. He started feeling cramps in both legs. The it was reported on. Espn dot com. Okay now we're to the is it because he hadn't had any water to drink. I don't know is it. How surprising is it that he was cramping in that much of a cold weather game to me. It's it's not a surprise because shanna said a lot of guys. You're still burning. You're actually burn more energy and more calories and colder weather than you do. In hot weather you may sweat more in hot weather because your body's trying to cool to me faster but in cold weather the thing that you don't do is drink water in hot weather you get so hot and you're you're trying to drink water. You're trying to cool of trying to do all that its cold. You're not realizing the amount of fluids that you're losing you know just because it's running down your arm now with him with the with the season would it being code him. not drinking. Water is very very easy to cramp and winter weather and really arrest. You've got to realize he's not like an office of line. Run from football record hundred four yards. But we never saw him. Go down with the cramp. Because you usually see when the cath locks you can't you. Can't you go down right like you got shot right and usually you say oh. Did he hurt his achilles. It's just a cramp and usually just a cramp is like. Oh thank god. It's just a crazy. The thing james you gotta think about it. He was probably not locked up cramping but he was cracking to where you feel it coming coming you twitching you can. You can still and what by fourteen at that point. So i'm running here trying to get a quick. I need and all of a sudden in the process getting iv things turned around. So i gotta go out here and be superman normally once they get to those both legs you too far gone. You're going to have to get the iv because it's going up you're going to get both legs the mini gold up to your back and all of a sudden you try to stand up and wherever you move something locks up differently. And that's what i was. I was telling scale. I was like the thing that you don't realize when coal your body is trying to keep you war so you've been in a lot of energy industry on top of that. You're not drinking. Because like oh man i ain't i ain't thirsty. I'm good i'm good. I'm good but the next thing you know you know when it's coming but probably both legs is too late so he he was cramping but you couldn't see even on the way to the locker room even though he looked a little bit gimpy but but he was down like starting different area for me. My first cramp. When i beyond it'll start literally in my tongue and i'm like oh is about to be bad people cramp in the middle of the night. Yes yes i'd get those. Yeah and that's like you think you're going to die okay. So does the locker room. And i know a lot of twitter went wild with the notion of. He needed a bathroom break. I don't think he did. he did. And in the end he says no. He was cramping because he needed to take these. You've got to get you know get stuck in your and you need to take a saline solution intravenously. And he said that took a little while and then the trainer tried to re stretch him out to get his legs to work and he said. I'm watching the game on tv and i'm catching an attitude. Because he left when it was thirty four twenty and all of a sudden you're behind and plus the thing is finding a vein when it's cold. Yep all of a sudden you know you'd be hydrate ayubi hydrated. So that's another thing that you guys. So you gotta be careful. And it's not just turned full-throttle zoe gifts. Then you let it drip drip drip drip drew and he came back full throb to me because i am. I was shocked that he came back in in. God bless trace mcsorley. Hope he's okay but you can make a case that have traced hadn't gotten his left leg caught up under him and he completed one big ball to willie snead that got them in position so he he did that. Kids tough man. He's got he's mentally but then all of a sudden it's fourth and five. What do you do because willie snead. Is the emergency quarterback at that point. And lamar says no. I'm good right. He will are your one hundred. No he's a thousand from the locker room fourth and five who. Wow and then he not only does he complete that pass after they let him break contain. They blitzed on the play. Obviously and the db's freeze because he's a more dangerous runner than thrower in hollywood. Who dropped really three passes breaks wide open deep and he drops went into him and he caught it. I don't know how you feel about this james but if i'm a situation like that i'm not listening him i'm gonna make him complete the football. I'm gonna make him throw into a zone because if you lift him up the middle and that end loses contain which he did. This is what you get. Now you get your. Db's mylan. do i stay plaster to my guy or do i let it get to the first down right and normally the coach they let him get the first down. At least we didn't give up the touchdown. We make the we still get more cracks. Possibly turn them over but with that guy got caught in between and he has tape for just a second. I'm gonna cut me like no. I'm in hollywood. Had already broke free of then. But i went out of blizzard. Lamar jackson in that situation. Tom brady him up. Because i'm not worried about him. Getting off. lamar jackson calamari. absolutely not. yeah. I got my. I think i might have sent three on that with spy. You know You know to be there just to roam around to you. Know by sending everything right there and like you say right here. News contained guys are either like am. I going to run up trying to stop him and then all of a sudden you got to. I contacted communications between receiver and quarterback already unspoken. He goes through mexican next and not strike up the band j. When you play when you play the mobile quarterback obviously three or four different. But you know you can't run. Pass those guys once you get. Even you got a flat now because if you run past him he's going jump out the window and he's grown. Yes yes and we were all. We were never allowed to to actually go past quarterback like even if you had to spend back to to to get back twenty because once you know either got inside of were far passing. You already know. Do you know it was often races and as we didn't want to happen. You know most quarterbacks that are real. Running quarterbacks aren't really as great with their ours because they don't have to be you know they're used to using their legs to get out of situations where a quarterback this used to using his arm. He's just going to try and fidget around the pocket. Get a different area so he could try and toss it out so sum this up. Was this the game of the year. I'm going to go one step farther. I thought it was the game of the decade regular season game of the decade. I can't remember one this decade any better than that in the regular season because it was fairy tale. It was just like you make it up. That was that was a movie right. There was a move on about forty. I've been out with a raspy drives. I cramped up my whole. You know right. He should have made it way. Worse than what it was you know he did too. Paul pierce and got carried off your son you know and then came back. When he came back it would live but they still talk about. Here's come on now. i love this game. Was better than the falcons cowboys. Yeah ooh just crazy just like psycho crazy. At the end of the game they cannot have now is a miracle. Labarsouque beco- stretching back out there and make things happen. Wait a second paul. Pierce wasn't really hurt. Me posted on social media to you. You're you're making fun of the guy come on undisputed listeners. Issue boy sharp. I wanted to tell you about my new podcast clubs shea shea where we always do something before to something each week. I sat down with gas for a drink and conversation and his host and proud club shea. I've welcome in esteem. Guests such as snoop dogg floyd money mayweather. Lavar ball isaiah. 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Big ben had been playing well after missing most of last season with an elbow injury but has thrown three interceptions in the past two losses after only three total the previous eleven games. Because something's going on there a good thing for us. James harrison is still with us jobs. Lee played in pittsburgh for years. So can the steelers turn this thing around. The steelers can turn around What they need to do first and foremost is they need to turn the ball whereas office the first actor that you've got to catch the ball you get the bali hands to catch the ball thing for number one in drops and then you have to run the ball of course of the last two games. What is it thirty. Four yards a game which is dead last in the league When you could add two drops you get the points. That's only sixteen points a game. Two hundred seventy five yards a gang and twenty eight percent on our on third downs over the course of the last two games so the office out to step it up like dance that it has to start is head. Start with him because he's the person that has long sand most and him saying what he said you know. I know being. That's motivation to him. So now they're going to go out there and they're going to say bans. He's washed up. He stuff he's gonna see that and that's going to motivate him to to get better and then you're going to have the people that's gonna say you know what he's not washed up these great he's going to see that too and that's gonna motivating to. I've been around long enough to know how he worked this go workout. But they need to get back to running the ball catch the ball and office would be okay to defense gonna do with the defense though when i look at the steelers and for the longest time and people just saying that you hate it. You play with the ravens. So you hate the steelers. But when i looked at them closely i saw flaw team. I saw team. Jane that can never run the football. They make no commitment to run the football. Yeah they get one hundred yards here. There were connor and they can average over one hundred when connor economists missed james conner miss time with colby and snail. He's more of a change of place them and maybe down back. But when you go your last eight games and you average fifty nine yards rushing per game and you average three yard carry per game. You're not gonna win. They're asking being been throwing the ball forty seven times on average the last five games when you throw that many passes in really. None of them are down the field. They're all nickel and dime stuff. At some point in time he catches up with you. I agree with you james. They drop to me to pay. As if i'm being i'm late i need to have a conversation with every one or you could irri deontay johnson and all you got ta. Y'all killing me killing my complete. My completion percentage my qbr. Emma quarterback brady whatever goes along with quarterback throwing the ball. Y'all killing me. Can you just hold onto the ball. But when you don't make the commitment to run the football and basically this is not your mom and pop. Steelers the days of franco and the buzz rocket running. Dave not child anymore. Y'all throw the football with big ben. You still play defense. But you can't keep losing your best players. Bud dupree going out hurt. Devin bush going up her. And then you lost bush's backup he'd gone out elaine. And joe haden mr labs gate. What a concussion you can't. I don't care next man. That sounds good in theory. But there's a reason that man was now because the guy that was in front of hill with better and you can't keep going next man up next man because you're going to run out a good man to put them so. The steelers wore a flaw team for the longest time. I thought watching the play. I thought they should be more. Seventy four. never posed a lebanon to skip when they were living in no at the point in time but this is not an accident. This is more who they are and got a handful. The kohl's is not an easy victory in the browns for the longest time. They've heard the steelers say. Y'all know bro. We big bro. They want to change that. So that sounds attorney something. That's not gonna happen though. That is a lot at a time when you get backed around over there. Yup so i hear you. They can't run it. They can't catch it. But i don't care what you say i'm with james on this. They can turn it around because they can play. Defense i gotcha. They lost a really. He's a terrific blair. Bud dupree listen. Devon bush was rising in one of the top linebackers league. But they're still after all that they're still number one in points allowed okay there number one in sacks and they're tied for first in takeaways. Okay those will work. Yes right so i believe they can turn it around just because of what we talked about. Baltimore has in the locker room. They do have tradition. James knows that tradition as well as anybody. I just feel like down the stretch. They got at cincinnati. Win that my cowboys one at cincinnati so surely pittsburgh and then as you said culture days game. I don't know what philip rivers which one you get but if you get the good one all day sucker right and then at cleveland is going to be a hard game to win to close it out. Big division rivalry. Obviously but i still say they're eleven into i. I still think they could win. Two out of those three thirteen in three. That's pretty good right. They better right now than kansas city. No they are not in. it boils down to. They're going to go as far as been will carry them. I like what james is saying. Because when i watch been i can't even recognize him anymore because it's like he's got no arm strength left. I don't know if it's from the surgery or what. but he just he just as flips it. Age doesn't take away. your armstrong and brady still got a big arm but it's like he just flips it just flicks. It is that all. He's got the scabby did have elbow surgery. I know that's what i'm saying. Right working on tendons and all that s something. I agree really I don't think you can strengthen too much especially as you get older over time you know. I think it's a situation where you know. I think men knows. He only has a few more years left on. And you know he's trying to do the best he can with it in right now with them having him throwing a ball almost fifty times a game. It's it's not knows not contributing to help me and you know when you can't run a ball you got little conduct classes as ryan alternative place so You know they're going to have to you know. Change up some things that they're doing on officing in you know fix things that they're not gonna right and now i said say i think they can get back to to winning games and get back to you. Know how they were playing before because said they have a defense that is ranked one or two in almost every category. Yep so james go. One other direction with us before road gains juju smith. Schuster has made a new habit of making video while dancing on the opponents. The home team's long in the middle of the field and it was reported. That josh allen made that a big part of his pre game pep talk to his team in buffalo the night before that game. So is this a good idea or a bad idea by our man. Juju for me on even going back to you. Know all the way to the cower it was always do not give them bulletin board material. Don't give them nothing to put up there. That going to motivate them to want to do or be anything or come out here and put any more effort into what they're trying to do. And when you do something like that you're doing exactly the opposite of what i've always been told you do not want to go out there and give them the gas unless you sitting here with the fire extinguisher to pull it out in the last two games. It seems like the fire extinguisher has been broke a that. Was we look at any sign of you standing on a logo. Use their we come out you and i end zone a you not supposed to be the you know where you're supposed to be you come out to become the field james you know. What t- phobia williams. Oh you oh my side of the fifty. I'm moving. ut oh yes yes yes. It's all not to forty nine forty in do not be standing in the logo you know goodwill you don't standing logo into the coin. Tall so innovative respect was met with disrespect. I don't know what this new age thing. Now they put it on tiktok. They put on twitter at twitter. All that stuff but man you two thousand and back. When i came in that would that would have to fight. It would have been fighting better than five for solve. So juju is promoting himself at the expense of his football team. Basically right basically who listen used to play we used to play baltimore. Man and Dame's failure so we always warm up. You know with the linebackers so we'd warm up on our side. We would ray autumn and ferrier's talking gas cash money to these dues. I mean calling them anything in a book. i'm like party. Leader was and all man. Get him no more gas mad. They go out there and try to do some crazy man. I'm like look but that's what you think okay. It was cool. It was funny. Okay you want to do that but man okay. You play with juju. I'm telling you playing with fire. What's the most infamous moment in the history of the dallas cowboys. It was tear standing on the store. After scored a touchdown right yup and who attacked him just about the whole cowboy team tried to knock. You do try to do that this year. He would go but they gotta be off antoine. 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Save up to one thousand dollars on the new three sixty smart bed. Plus smart adjustable base only at sleepnumber stores or www dot sleepnumber dot com slash cadence. This week their car in the raiders are fighting for a shot at the playoffs but rookie sensation justin. Herbert and the chargers are looking for the upset thursday night football seven thirty eastern four thirty pacific on fox also available on nfl network and streaming on prime video. Wasser always all asked. I just want to watch more football so looking forward to that. One guys. because lamar jackson at baker mayfield. This show they put our last i. It was wild in the ravens browns. Monday night matchup. The first overall pick and the thirty second overall pick from the twenty eighteen first round draft class combined for six total touchdowns with lamar dominating on the ground early and baker showing off his trademark accuracy during cleveland's fourth quarter comeback so shannon i said review who will have the better career baker or lamar. Give you look at where the are currently. Kurt warner dan. Marino lamar mahomes. They're basically right around there. Twenty seven and six twenty seven and seven which unbelievable all of these guys had done. What in the first or second year. Vp lamar heaven mvp skipping. I said this earlier. In the opening if he can get his passing to sixty set skip. I'm not talking about eight. It'd be unfair with his legs if he can get eighty percent better passer but if he can just get sixty percents seventy percent better a passer skip. He's gonna be like mahomes. He'll be the mvp discussion every single year. Because the difference is baltimore can't win a game. If he doesn't play great skip where he would know. He has to play well in order for them to win. We've seen cleveland play a game win. Baker has seventy eighty yards passing the running game. What what makes them sets them up. Lamar jackson if he doesn't play well they don't win. They built this entire thing. This fortress is built on lamar jackson's foundation. So i'm going to say lamar. Because i believe he can continue to get better and i'll believe you'll continue to work. He strikes me the guy that wants to get better at during football. He knows he has dynamic legs but if he can just get sixty percent passing to the leg ratio. Skip the special talent. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take lamar because i believe he will improve. The passer and i would not be surprised if he doesn't get another. Mvp on his resume before it's all said and done he. Well might. this is probably my pride talking. It might even be my oklahoma sooner talking. But i was a baker fan before the draft. I told you. I would pick him first overall and i'm going to stand by that and i'm gonna say over the long haul and he will have a little better career than another young man. I've come to love in lamar. I did not see lamar coming in pro football. I thought he could be pretty good. I didn't think he could win an mvp. I don't know many people who saw them are coming because the whole league. Look the other way ray. All had chances until ozzie took him at the bottom of the ramp traded back in the first round. Yeah so how in the end in this league you win throwing the football team. Even though lamar has broke his shattered that mold. Baker is a better. Throw the football. And i think he always will be a little too a lot. Better throw the football. Been lamar agree. Lamar astounded me last year with his dart throwing because he was throwing darts the whole year and again when you can run the way he runs. It just opens everything yes. It's so hard to defend. He is so explosively quick and fast both that combination he. He's a little beyond our man. Michael vick is so that i would have really liked it. He would up the middle guy daven his leg instead of. I mean it's it's absurd. How fast he is. He's touch faster than michael. Vick michael in the open field. We're talking about the michael vick experiences atlanta. It's something i would have paid to watch every sunday. Lamar with listen. Baltimore's he. He's something where he's so explosive he might not be able to make you. Miss quite like vick did no but his change direction as they say you put that foot in the ground when he puts his foot and around. It's so subtle in effortless that the shift of direction it just leaves you tackle an air so so i get that but you gotta stay healthy. I thought he took a shot. Last night was six and a half minutes left. He did not need to take the third quarter. But i was afraid that was leading to. I went to the locker room. But apparently that wasn't it but the point is if he can stay healthy and you can continue just a gash people for one hundred plus yards then all those little play action slant on everywhere. It's just like you get guard right. Okay so he asked to hit the slant right yes to hit the curls. He has to hit all underneath stuff and occasionally he needs to break the pocket and hit. Hollywood gets behind the thing. Is this going to be worked in his favor. He's going to be throwing a gift single covered. Because you gotta get the fake that down in the box mcneil. okay okay. So what have we seen from baker. He's gone through head coach after coach coordinator after coordinator in finally life has quietly stabilized for him over the last seven games and again very quietly pro. Football focus ranks him. The third graded quarterback. He's great at third best in the league over the last seven games okay. That'll work enough body. Your work to say wow. He's a top ten. I think he's right there about ten th in the league right now because he's starting to play the way baker mayfield played at oklahoma. He's playing with that hot doggy arrogance. And i don't always love it. I don't love the drum major. Run down passes. I don't love sliding into the end zone like i'm too cool. He's got hot dog in him. He's constantly chatter with the opposition. But he's starting to back it up and the hotdog arrogance fuels him like nothing else. That's what he was at oklahoma. You remember all the stuff he got into it with. Kansas jayhawks in the in the premium shake shake his hand. He had the guy from takes. Tcu him because they had the audacity to run along the back line at the end zone while baker and company were warming up on that end of the field. So you just drills the kid right. That's baker okay. So you got except the whole package. And i always have. Because that's what that's his rocket fuel. Well the rocket fuel really work last night. You can't tell me that. After lamar scored in fired a football in hit a sign in the dog pound into the stadium and the ball came right back to him then baker scored and he did the same thing and tried to get the ball to come back but it wouldn't come back but that was a touche to you right. Lamar obviously same draft class. It's like can you top. This can top skill tied together. He josh allen and baker draft class. And so this. What you get your was darnold in. There was a rosen. Yeah okay all right. So this case i still say the ability to throw the football on the move and from the pocket. We'll give baker a slight edge going forward. And i say now that his life has stabilized without odell and again no knock on adele. He's great but he was the worst thing that ever happened to baker at that point in his life because he was entering his second year and he was only a half year started the first year rookie. So he's still getting his feet wet and he's trying to find odell and force feed him the football along with jarvis we had co number ones and they're just too many weapons and destroyed him. He has with the ball. He got brain locked in the pocket. Last year was a disaster for baker. Mayfield oda promise. You go to a team with a veteran quarterback and get back. Because it's been a while i mean you look at it. The last two years he was injured in new york Tourists here in cleveland. He was injured this year. He's injured so it's been a while since we've seen the odell that we know that odio the beat so he probably needs to move on find. A guy with a veteran quarterback the knows how to get because he he just he just wants to get back to playing good football and he's had a rough arash of injuries from the sports hernia to the ankle. He broke his ankle a couple of years ago now. Acl so he has a lot to prove he does so. Baker is quietly taking off over the last seven games thirteen touchdowns to two interceptions. All of a sudden rashard higgins has come back in into the rotation has really a primary receivers caught the most yards catching right over the last seven games of jarvis. so now it's up for up to baker to continue to live up beyond the progressive commercials. Set one more time. I just haven't loved all the progressive commercials and now he's making more and more their new ones. It seems like every game last night. The most of the game was progressive commercials. Well it just paints that target bigger and bigger on your back. And he still hasn't proved he is not one. Mvp as been a pro bowl quarterback he hasn't played in a playoff game yet. So now you've got way more to prove that. I think he's living up to his commercial because they fail behind they had twenty ship. Twenty eight attempts one hundred and thirty eight yard. That's almost five yards a carry for rushing touchdown. 'cause i like if anybody gonna throw the ball forward tests down convened like everybody for the first like i night touchdown wall. We're all rushing touchdowns and you had to go back out of the caption onscreen. That got to go back to nineteen twenty two. Yeah but for baker to do what they did when he failed behind and basically took the run game with children. Hunt they ran. And just a little bit sprinkling in but basically it was baker throwing the football. I thought baker showed really well for himself. But like i say lamar all of them are has to do improve. Get to sixty five seventy percent. Yup going to deal with could've legs. Okay but going forward now. Bakers got a quality young coach. Who gets it in his putting in him in situations to use his legs to scramble rollout by time in kevin stefanski knows because he's west coast. He's off that trine so now. Baker has found his bliss. The where he belongs. And all the sudden i think going forward they built it right because most of the year. Their offense line has been graded like one or two league or you got the offer from. Tennessee will from alabama to ten. Pick in the draft tritter trader. So they're good. Skip for me any relationship ibn. If you don't love me john hart by love lamar alexander as you see they called. He called a tie because they thought they had them in. Horrified called a timeout and lamar's light. He comes to the sideline behove my bare. You a that's what you get. That's when you know the wiz like hold on. Why can't my coach. Believe in me and love me. Like about las tamar. You're right. that's that's find every every quarterback every player once his coat to have that kind of respect him admiration for like our behalf for lamar jackson right and remember what happened to baker right out of the box there on hard knocks at the end of hard knocks. Hugh jackson calls baker in remember. This drew stanton and announced a baker this on hard knocks that they used it. You've won the backup quarterback. I've won the backup. I was the first pick in the draft right. And you call me here. It's almost like it embarrassed. It just okay number two quarterback but that's something you don't need to make an announcement about nope and by the way we did have hugh on the show. I that and he did acknowledge that was a mistake. That was not right. Sometimes you get caught up in when you do. This is. This is the reality show. Yep and sometimes you do things and you know you do things for a fact and it. Oh but you have to understand. That's a human being you dealing with now although the fans and the people that's watching is gonna love that you have to understand how. How is this person going to take. Yeah and so. That's something i think. Hugh if he added to do over again obviously he would play it like that but you know. Hard knocks is reality. Reality show you what. It's like in training camp. The decision that coaches and general managers and people have to make in order to put a team together. But i just think that was the wrong time too so remember the gm who picked baker. John dorsey is no longer there. Which is usually not a good thing. While lamar has the stability of same staff. Ozzy raduyevs graduate. He he got a little off. But you know they got still got dick. Cast costumes as you said. They got. John harbaugh hugging lamar. Let's that works it seriously. Shit it always comes back to a relationship it always does. It always be religious guy. Yup i like stability. You won't see we've been talking about it throughout this show. This game had great quarterback play all around but it was actually a kicker made the final difference last night with just seconds left on the clock. Last night's pratice gaiger justin tucker nails fifty five yard field goal sealed. The victory for baltimore intrigued here. Because i know you've always said you make feel so. What was your reaction to the game winning kick last night. Okay mr sharpe meet you. Restate my position on this that i've held for thirty years. I hate field goal kicking. Because i hate the notion that a game between warriors fight it out for almost sixty minutes comes down to this little guy running onto the field. Who's usually a soccer player by background. And that's the position these replace can't play any position near sport does not belong in your sport except to kick the ball off the ground up through gimmicky uprights which has always been weird to me. It's it's silly. It's beneath the dignity of football. And i've always said a place kicking extra points and field goals and just play it out now. Wouldn't work last night. Lamar would had to go down and scored in the get the ball neon sign. I'm fine with punting and by the way punters are always more athletic in bigger men than field goal kickers because they have to catch the ball and then they often have to past always been much better. Athletes are always very good golfers. The place-kickers eliminate this except for the because it's way too much on the scoreboard. The value is way too high because they win and lose games by the way we haven't talked about this. But cody parkey last night. He missed a thirty nine yard. Field goal very makeable and missed an extra point. Okay there's four. Points did not impact the game in a negative way for the cleveland browns. You could say that. He lost the game for the cleveland. Browns that ultimately justin tucker one. Okay now i'm going to explain to you. Why because i can't change this rule why i would pay justin tucker quarterback money. I'm not being straight with you. Just tucker is worth thirty to thirty five million dollars. If i were an owner of a football team i would say i want that guy. I'm going to go get him. And i'm gonna pay quarterback money because he wins and loses a lot of gangs. Well we'll how much magnitude does he have. How much impact on the scoreboard or my ultimate record. I told you last year. Brett maher breadth. The fret was the worst. Kicker and pro. Football in my cowboys went eight with him and could've gone ten and six if he had made some of those kicks it ends up. Impacting your record. Is jerry jones. Say that no because they always treat them like they're dime a dozen would happen because you dan bailey. Yeah bailey fota. Tim points on sunday. And you can argue. He lost them a road game at tampa that the team played well enough to win so he's got a fly back on the team plane. You've been there before and you're looking sideways side at this little guy who doesn't even belong in a football game and he just lost or one you the game because you see the things they do in practice they can kick the ball from fifty yards out and put it in the trash can but you mean to tell you can kick it thirty yards through bigalow a choke and listen once they go south. Psychologically they'd use news hard overcome that. Okay so here's just tucker. He went undrafted out of texts undrafted. And he's a smallish man by football standards right. yep he's got the best leg in the history of the game to me on lift. I've never seen anybody get the ball up as fast as just tucker us. He's made from fifty plus shards. Forty two of forty nine field goals. That's gold that's a big part of what the ravens do in his rookie year. If i'm not mistaken. He kicked the game winning denver. He did not have a rookie undrafted. Rookie. that's what he did so the only owner whoever agreed with me on this principle was al davis late. Great al davis was close to him but he drafted sebastian jankowski with the seventeenth overall. Pick and continue to pay him high money for a kicker well did he pay off. Yeah he won. A lot of gains had a huge leg. But i don't think he had the leg quite that. This man does. He might have had a strong leg but he didn't have accuracy and he didn't have the lift. Just duggar gets it up so fast. It's impossible to block surprise that they've locked pat. But i think he knew he had a low trajectory on that. Because the got really ya but for me met lining up like took you got fifty five and before i basically have friends and seeing the ball is through the right. Yep he got it. He's got the reason why. He's the highest paid kicker. There's a reason why four eight years he's been the first to even the all pro kicker on the nfl protein. And there's a reason why he might be it again this so when you look at it and you look at what they seventy. One percent of his field goals from fifty plus seventy one percent. Skip hair you hope. You make fifty percent of all this field goal. Forget what hackett plus in this day. Path some guys can't make. He's he's special. And i play. You know jason elam in denver played with matt stover in baltimore. Who kick for them. In cleveland and came an end up playing about eighteen nineteen years. So i i've been blessed. Skip this kid here to be able to kick like. He can kick in the cold with that kind of distant with that kind of accuracy. 'cause like i said kept you know when you play the northeast you play like where they play the elements are going gonna come into you. Get rain sleet wind. Snow and kicking eight home games in baltimore rogue game in pittsburgh cleveland and cincinnati. Do they said the winds were gusting last night. That eighteen miles an hour with wind. Chill around twenty and he kicked up skill. That balder being from sixty. I don he got he got it up in a hurry and it was okay so help me out. Where would the patriot dynasty. Be without adam vinatieri. Though it would be no dynasty there would be again brady had to put him in position but he had nail and again. The choke factor is extreme buffalo. The first against the giants get well supplied. Which was it but it lives in infamy. And you know we'll skip. We don't really like field goal kicker until we need good job good job visit man you bomb. I can't believe you did so you. That's all you gotta do is kick field goal brothers. You got a real job. You'll have the practice you don't come to the meetings. We meetings all day. We come out. They sit in the locker room. They play cards with each other deeply in basketball issue. Plead play air hockey. I like bra but it didn't load agrees. Cover of them go to schools. Kipp getting law degrees. That's it allegra. You growl what you do but you gotta make this feel good. It's thirty yard okay. So that was the old black and blue vision type game that you live cozi. Yeah okay you used to be central used to be but now it's it's more the north in last night it was hell Physical out there. There was a lot of pad pop. And again cody. Parkey doesn't play football in the end. Justin tucker doesn't really play football but they decided the game that ultimate warriors battled it out for for nearly sixty minutes and then that's it. The old browns beat the new browns. Ravens used to be there. So there's no really no love lost I felt bad for our because was he moved the team. He never went back nope they never forgave him. Art should be in the pro football hall of fame because of his impact has contributed skill. The monday night football we see it was called arts vision and what he meant to the. Nfl deserved to be the pro football hall of fame but they never never forgave him. I mean the colts mood the rams. How many times did the rams mood. How many time have the raiders moved. Skip the titans. The titans of move they used to be the houston. Oilers moved from memphis and went to. Now they're nashville but poor art. He's the only one that they just know they can never. They never forgave so to sum up my take on feel kicking. It's wildly exciting for the wrong reasons. He because they do gag do miss. Oh my god. Did you see what happened. And yet if you removed from the game then you'd have to. You'd have a choice every time you'd have to go down. You just have to keep going for the way home right well. That could be exciting for the right reasons to me. Ask you look. We love him for two reasons. They make the field goals to get when you hit that home side like you're in dallas or it used to be the hot air body. We'll try to get that high bounce but talk. He's good at the having. Nfl never seen anything quite like him. Now not with that kind of distance in that kind of accuracy. I mean prater might have a comparable leg in detroit. He might have a lake skip. But i don't. I don't think he has the accuracy that talk now.

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Justin Tucker (Baltimore Ravens) and Gary Myers (author of "How 'Bout Them Cowboys?")

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

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Justin Tucker (Baltimore Ravens) and Gary Myers (author of "How 'Bout Them Cowboys?")

"Welcome to the Peter King podcasts where I try to educate you about the National Football League and hopefully a few other things along the way. This week leading place kicker in NFL history, Justin Tucker of the Baltimore Ravens. The only kicker ever to make ninety percent of his field goal attempts for career joins me and I'll have Gary Myers the long time and very well respected sports writer who's just written a book, how about them Cowboys, which has some really good stories about America's team. But I, I wanna talk about drew Brees I think everybody is well aware that drew Brees has just set on Monday night of this week the all time record for passing yards in a career in one game, he vaulted from third to first passing Brett farve, and Peyton Manning along the way and now holds the record for most passing yards ever. And what's interesting is that I think that there's a good chance that this record could stand for awhile. I don't know how long, but one of the issues about all these records that are being set now is that eventually they're all going to be broken because of the way the passing game is played. But I do think there's a good chance that drew Brees ends up having more passing yards in his career than Tom Brady, and if not Brady look at the landscape of current players, I don't think it's. Very likely that any veteran play right now, except maybe Matthew Stafford a will advocate chance to get that high into the realm over seventy thousand passing yards. And who knows the way Brees is going. He may end up with over eighty thousand passing yards, but I wanted to take a moment and just talk about a story that about Brees that I recall. And that is sort of seared in my mind when I was working for Sports Illustrated back in two thousand ten, I found out that breeze had this. He called it honestly, a secret society. He found ten businessmen in New Orleans. Now, remember in two thousand ten, they were still only five years clear. Actually, when I wrote this about four and a half years, clear of Hurricane Katrina, and there were still so many things. Wrong with this city. So many things in this city that needed to be fixed and breeze and in in his mind, he needed to do something about this as well as in whatever he might do. Personally, he knew he couldn't do everything personally. Even though he was involved in a lot of things. And so he founded this society of of ten businessmen who would give twenty five thousand dollars a year, and they would sit there and decide, okay, how are we gonna parcel out this money? It's just a little amount of money breeze also gave some money into the pot as well. And how're we going to what little projects are we going to do to try to get New Orleans back on its feet. So what I wanted to do is I just wanted to read you four or five paragraphs from the story I wrote from Sports Illustrated and it will tell you why. In my opinion, drew Brees. Has done so much as a football player, but I believe as much for New Orleans psyche and New Orleans as a city post Hurricane Katrina. So this story starts in a in an event. I went to with Brees in New Orleans and I'll just start it in, you'll you'll hear why. I'm pretty impressed with breezes a human being last Thursday night in a private upstairs room. It commander's palace, the landmark New Orleans restaurant drew Brees convene what he called his secret society in the dining room where seven of the city's richest men and biggest boosters, power players who've anonymously teamed with Brees for such post Katrina causes as the refurbishment of tad Gormley stadium in city park and the funding of the New Orleans ballet associations flagging after school program breeze calls this group, the quarterback club as a token of. Thanks for contributions past and future breeze, dispense black and gold cufflinks engraved with QB. I'd like to propose a toast. He said, lifting his champagne, flute, all of you care so deeply about the future of this city, not just from business perspective, but for my philanthropic perspective and it's so desperately needed right now a toast to you and to New Orleans here here to New Orleans. The group responded earlier in the saints by week their quarterback had spent two hours working on another of his pet projects. The lush charter school for which he'd helped raise the money to build a new football field. Weight room scoreboard in running track after the September two thousand five hurricane had devastated the facilities and the surrounding uptown neighborhood. Now, nine days before New Orleans, playoff opener against the cardinals in the Superdome breeze. Chatted up in rubbed elbows with the men he knew could help him do real good for this city. Some guys might be playing ten hours. Mad today, which is cool. Breeze said is he took his seat after his toast, but this is my outlet. This is what I love to do. So that's one of the reasons why, in my opinion, I'm really impressed with drew. Brees is a football player, but I'm a little bit more impressed with drew Brees the human being who's using his star power to do something that really, really matters. And now my conversation with Justin Tucker, the kicker, the Baltimore Ravens. Back in the Peter King podcast, happy to be joined. I'm in New York. He's in Baltimore with Justin Tucker, the kicker, the Baltimore Ravens, and Justin has had quite a young career to his name so far. He's the only kicker in NFL history to have made more than ninety percent of his field goals. He just recently played his one hundred NFL game. And I, I was struck recently by watching him. In Pittsburgh in week, four of this season was struck by what incredibly automatic kicker he is become and I don't want that to be taken for granted because I've gotten to know Adam Viteri pretty well over the years. And I always think that the unfortunate thing a lot of times when it comes to kickers punters is that people really just kind of take for granted what they do. And the only time you really notice them is when they shank one or when when they get one blocked or when they miss one, you're supposed to make him hit. I sound like Bill Parcells now, that's that's what he always used to say, what are you talking about? He supposed to make it and that it actually does take quite a bit of skill and mental preparation anyway, just in happy to have you on the podcast. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me. So I, I wanna start really with. Pittsburgh and I wanna ask you believe now you've made seventeen consecutive field goals in what I would call the Bermuda triangle for kickers Hines where people just don't seem to have much luck, especially at the longer kicks a. What is it about Heinz field? That's tough. Be. Has anybody informed you of this because you've made seventeen in a row there. So I say to answer part a, what makes Heinz field atop place kick at. It would be the same things that make Baltimore a kick. I've maintained over the last several years at, especially since we've gone to grass here in Baltimore. We have one of the stadiums to kick in as well, Cleveland Cincinnati. Everywhere that we play in our division. You know, we're playing outdoors, you're playing in some weather system, matter of, you know, compartmentalizing each and everyone of opportunities that we get and just taking each kick for what it's worth doing. Our best, you know put through, but what makes what makes Heinz field Cleveland, Baltimore, and Cincinnati. For that matter, the place kick top places to kick would be first of all the grass surface, you know that Heinz field and in Mt. Baker stadium have. Throughout the course of a game, the grass field can get up. It's never gonna, be the same in the fourth quarter as it wasn't the first quarter of pre-game. So getting your footing right, getting a firm plant. So your balance through the swing. That's that's definitely something we have to take into account, and then you know, we're, we're playing outside in our division and we're dealing with wind on a pretty regular basis. The other night we have as calm night as I can remember in Pittsburgh. So you know, it was just about hitting a straight ball and the footing, right? You know, swinging up through and you know that that certainly makes things a little bit simpler. But you know, all of those things do make it a little bit more interesting than you know, playing inside so to speak. Just an I. I have always thought that one of the interesting things about being a kicker in the NFL and you have elucidated this on several occasions that one of the things about being kicker in the NFL is that oftentimes you're not treated the way other players, you know who who play from scrimmage and who who get, you know, get knocked around maybe a little bit more than you do your oftentimes off by yourself, either you and the holder and the snapper you in the punter, whatever. But you're oftentimes off by yourself for large periods of practice. And so therefore there's a lot of times where year it's a team sport, a huge team sport, but you spend time by yourself or in a very small group away from the team, a lot during practice a what is that like. To then come into the larger group and be what does that? What does the preparation feel like when you're not oftentimes with the larger group? Yeah. So I would answer that by saying while seemingly I'm off by myself, it's more like we as specialists we are off by ourselves, so we're still with are kicking battery. So to speak, Morgan Cox are long snapper Sam Cooke, our punter and holder, and Randy Brown or kicking coach and Jerry roster. We all make it a point to follow our routine work through the same things. You know each and every opportunity we have on the practice field. I'm not just over there with a t in a in a ball, just kicking out a light pole by myself. I'm working with all of those guys, and I think that's part of the. Reason why we've been really good as we work on. You know, making ourselves just just a little bit better each and every day within our operation. You know, we're working on our timing together as unit. I think we're one of the longer tenured field goal operations in football right now, and that level of comfort that we have that level of toughness that we have going on the field is, you know, largely unmatched just because of the amount of time that we spend together and not just on our own doing our own thing. And then when we get into a team setting in practice, it's just like anybody else, you know, you're you're, you know, you're kind of, you know, getting a chance, put your talents on display for your teammates and a little bit more of a pressure situation just to build up, you know, toward what it's going to feel like on Sunday when you, you know, you're jogging out there in front of sixty thousand. Fans who are hoping that you do not do your job? Well. So you know, while while it could seem like I'm by myself just doing my own thing, we really are and I- infancy the we we really are working on making each other better. We might be separated in a sense, but I I would associate it to a lot of a lot of people make the comparison between kicking and putting and in Goff how it's a, you know, similar motion, static ball moment in time, but I think I would more closely associate what I do on the football field with what like a Mario Rivera does on, you know, on baseball in the baseball world where you know we are expected to come in and perform an exceedingly high level with limited opportunity or a limited number of reps rather. So yeah. Well, our offense might be out there for, I don't know, fifty sixty seventy eighty plays a game. I might be out there for. A cluding kickoffs, but you know those three or four or five opportunities that I get that you know our offense, our defense put us in position. They're expecting me to come back to the sideline with points. So in that way, you know, I think you were, you know, I'm probably a little bit more similar to closer in baseball in that, you know, just gotta make gotta make the most out of the limited number of reps and you know, hence the name specialists right. Justin, let's let's just go back in time to win the entered the league you or not. You weren't Abon his baby, you or not. He weren't even drafted. You came into the league in two thousand twelve basically on almost tryout basis with the Baltimore Ravens. And you came to camp that year and beat out of veteran, Billy Conn diff. But it's almost the same thing I've asked this question to Adam venit Terry because he had a very rocky path into the NFL totally no guarantee path where there was one team, one team that asked him to come in and kick for him, the New England Patriots and after three games of his NFL's NFL career in game three, he was one of four in field goals, and he entered his fourth game of his NFL career in nineteen ninety six thinking that if he missed a couple of kicks, he's going, he wasn't going to get on this kicker. Go round. Okay. Where where he was going to go try out for. Four teams, and he thought that quite literally, he was going to go back to South Dakota and go to med school. And if he was really fortunate and really lucky, he was going to study and one day he'd be cardiologists. That's really what he thought was going to happen in his life if he had a bad game in September twenty two years ago. So I wanna ask you about your path which was really, you're not an intimate guy coming out of the university of Texas into hiding down there. I do about me playing for the flagship school of the great state of Texas. So what were you feeling like in may two thousand twelve when when you were trying out and when you were kicking for the ravens that spring sure will twenty two year old me felt completely slighted just pissed off, disappointed. You know that whole chip on chip on your shoulder thing. I think I, I really applied that to, you know what I was trying to accomplish on the football field, but looking back looking back at the the whole draft process for me, how that or rather the, you know, going undrafted process for me. I look at the draft now just as a whole in. It's such an inexact science, you know you, you can have one guy who's you know, just a total baller comes in. He's a first rounder and he's everything you expect them to be. And then the next guy, you know a pick later pick before. He, you know, he the most he might do in his career is, you know he might amount to a role player, which is, you know, that's that's just the way it is sometimes, but I look back at my path into this league and you know, I think in kind of serendipitous way, everything worked out exactly how it was supposed to. You know, I landed. I landed in a place where I had an opportunity to compete and make a team, and you know, that's exactly that's exactly what happened. And then you know a whole perfect storm events lead us to win a Super Bowl, my rookie year. And you know, now I'm just itching to get back to another. But you know, in a in a long story, less long, I think I ended up exactly where I needed to be for for all the right reasons. One of my favorite Justin Tucker stories happen in two thousand thirteen Baltimore at Detroit. Tight game. You had kicked five field goals in the first fifty, eight minutes of the game twenty nine twenty four thirty to forty nine fifty three yards. But the lions went ahead. Late lions were ahead by a point sixteen to fifteen. Ravens are driving and they stall you stall and you go out there and you line up for a sixty one yard field goal, which not that this is the greatest thing ever, but there's never been a sixty one yard or longer field goal ever kicked in a dome stadium. But here you were Monday night football going out for that kick. Once you to tell me what you remember about that kick. What I remember about it is that I don't feel like I got all of it. I kind of I kind of came off my toe a little bit, and as soon as left my foot, I'm pretty sure Sam Cooke had the exact same feeling that I did, which was, oh, man left us when just little short and sure enough thing, kind of, you know, wild around a little bit and then snuck in through that, you know, right side of the uprights, but. I, if anything, you know that I could if I could point to any singular feeling that I had as soon as the ball cross cross across bar was relief because moments prior to kick, I just basically run out onto the field and it was being, you know, more or less call the back by the entire coaching staff, like what's he doing out there and. If I'm running out there like better make the kick. You mean you you, you went out there prematurely and you thought that they might want to run another play instead of trying to sixty one yard, like maybe a little bit of I. Yeah, I was you know, I was a, you know, kind of run out there. I turned a hard. I say, I got this and he's like, all right. Well, we're kicking it and then you know, I realize, okay, you know, this isn't fifty eight fifty nine. This is sixty one. I'm gonna really have to get hold of this ball and especially since I just told hard, I got this. Well, I better got this. So fortunately we were able to put that went through the uprights and then Mattiol and put the game away with the game sealing interception on the next drive. So I I would definitely say that's, that's one of the, you know, one of my favorite kicks at that I've been a part of and you get all of relief. Man just relief relief that it crossed crossed on the on the pro side of the upright. Harb's obviously being a Baltimore head coach, John Harbaugh who's been there since you've been there long before actually. But something happened after that game that I'd heard about I was I didn't cover that game, but I had heard about it that you are sort of reminded of your mortality after the game by by Ray Lewis. Tell tell everybody the story about what happened in the locker room after that game. I'm thinking here. Oh, okay. I think I know what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. So it was, it was says, yeah, it was says says, oh, you may Terrell suggs. Yep, made sure to remind me up there on the podium doing the post game, press conference, answering a few questions, and I, I hear the door kinda, you know, kinda come open and says poker ahead in, I don't even know if he came into the room. I think just heard him yell, hey, talk, don't let it get to your head. You're still just a kicker in what do you. What do you bring into the blank there. But he said, hey, listen, I just saved your bacon making. I scored every point that our team scored today buddy and I kicked a sixty one yard or win it. Maybe I'm a little bit more than just a bleep in kicker. His attempt that humbling me didn't really work. If you ask Machi mates. I'm to deal with sometimes, but, hey, man, that's, you know, when you make kicks, he can. You know, you have a little fun, and then you know, when you miss when you got to, you know, maintain that same level of competence and stuff to do. But Yep, suggs definitely gave me a a, not so friendly reminder. 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Yeah, I think you know, I, I've been asked a handful of times. Do you ever get nervous or you ever scared before you attempt to field goal? You know, do you have butterflies in your stomach? And the honest answer is like, hell? Yeah, like I'm nervous. I'm scared, but it doesn't signify a lack of confidence. Finding your confidence through feelings that are tough is a challenge, but I think that's what you know is I think that is the hallmark of great specialist is a guy who's able to harness the energy from, you know, you know, feeling nervous or being there, I say scared and turning that into laser like focus, you know, I don't think you have to look any farther than out of an interior the best ever to do it. And he'd probably say the same thing like you like, yeah, it's okay to be nervous. Okay. To be scared. But. You know, that doesn't mean you're not confident. And in that you, you know deep down inside, you're good enough to make this kick, you know. So that's something. I mean, that's that's what I tell myself more or less, probably less because there's a lot less time between the snap the hold and the kick. You know, then my explanation that I just gave, you know those one point, three seconds though you, you can think a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day, just being confident and trusting your technique enjoying the moment. Aknowledging that, yeah, I'm a little nervous, but I'm getting a play, you know, NFL football on Sunday night in Pittsburgh, or I'm getting a play on Monday night football. You know, you just got to embrace those opportunities and just enjoy 'em. And that's, you know, that's that's what I try to do. What do you think you've learned about the mental approach to kicking since you've been in the NFL? Give me your, give me the lessons that you. You think you have learned about it? Sure. If I had the point to one thing, I would say think of the action and not the consequence. It would be really easy to get ahead of yourself and you know, think about what's my post kick celebration going to be like or on the flip side of that, man. I hope I don't miss this kick I, it's, it's, it would be very easy for anybody. You know, from from the, you know, the top ranks of the NFL all the way down to, you know, middle school football, it'd be very easy for any kicker to think any of those thoughts, but you're saying don't well at the end of sure, of course. But at the end of the day, thinking of the action of kicking the ball, having you know a wide square plant and finishing up through mashing my foot up to the ball at contact, thinking of, you know, things in. Simple terms as possible, just breaking it down and kicking the ball, solve all those problems. My grandfather told me in high school when I, you know, had had a chance to play for my varsity football team. He said, jussie. I'm just going to tell you one thing. Kick the damn ball. I like that in in in in all sincerity. Those are, you know, some of the best words of advice at ever received, and you know, keeping it as simple as just kicking. The damn ball makes makes a lot of those problems just disappear. When you ever look if you do at your stat line and looked down in see that all the kickers in the ninety nine year history of this game, the greatest one other than you. The first two numbers on their percentage is eighty. Eight made eighty eight percent of their kicks in their career. The first two numbers on yours or nine zero ninety percent kicks in your career, your two percentage points. As we record this ahead of anybody who's ever kicked a ball in an NFL game that is kinda, gee whiz, I would think, but what do you think when I say that to you. I'm just trying to make the next one. I mean, I don't wanna sound like a broken record or that. I don't appreciate that. You know, that's tough to do. That's tough to that's tough to accomplish and to keep going. But I'm just thinking about making the next kick taken at one kick at a time in those. You know, thinking in that way, I believe serves us well as a football team as a field goal unit. Just thinking about, you know, like I said, a minute ago, the action and not the consequence just thinking about the next kit can make in that one. I think that leads to making more kicks than not, you know, and when it's all said and done, hopefully that number stays at least where it is. And you know, it gets, you know, gets higher, but you know, it's about taking it one kick at a time and might tell a really boring answer, but you know what, honestly, honestly, if you say if your grandfather said, hey, just make the damn kick. That's same thing is just make the next kick, you know? I mean, you're not. Complicating it. That's probably a part of it. I'm totally with you. I'm totally with you on that at the exact same time coming out here onto the practice field and grinding through the details of how we make a kick. I'll hit one right down the middle and on film. It might look, you know, like everything that you want it to be, but there's a, there's a feeling there that I could have. Got that one a little bit better, and Sam will know. Morgan will know Jerry and snapper Sam Morgan Cox, your snappers, Sam, cook your holder, right? Yep, Yep. Harry Rosberg. Your special teams coach? Yep. And rainy Brown, or can you coach who's who's who's with us on a regular basis? You know, we all know we know each other well enough to, you know, I I wouldn't say nitpick, but I mean, that's kind of what we do. Sometimes, you know, we just grind on the details of what makes a kick the best it can be. So you know, I might hit one that looks really good, but we, we all know coulda hit it just a little bit better. Our specially, no, I can get a hold of that ball better. So you know, we line it up again and we, you know, and that's, that's stuff that we're doing. Like you said, you mentioned earlier when you know I'm off on everybody else's on field one and I'm over on field three or you know, later in the year when you know we'll have a little bit of weather and the rest of the team needs practice inside. You know, Jerry and Randy Morgan salmon, I will go outside. And will you. We'll try to get as much experience outside grind through the details of what we do. All of those things lied to us make kicks when we need to make them for sure. You know, you always hear about offensive lines. They're better when they stay together. Never forget. One of the first teams I ever covered was in New York Giants in the eighties, and they had an offensive line where the some absolutely was better than the individual talents of the parts. If there was a pro football focus in those days, I think most of those guys would be in the in the bottom half of their individual jobs. But collectively they played forty eight games in a row together, and they were really good because they knew what everybody was doing. And I wonder, do you believe that in this is such a layup question, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it that the fact that since the moment you walked in there or really for a long time you've had event John Harbaugh had Jerry Ross. Berg is your. Special teams coach, you know you've had you've had for so long. You've had the same holder in Sam, cook your punter. You've had the same snapper in Morgan Cox in you'd. Have you've had you what does that mean to that? That sort of togetherness that cohesiveness? What does that mean to your job and your success? Oh, it's paramount. Having that continuity between all of us having that open line of communication between each and every one of us. To where we can pull out the best from each other. That's it's huge. The way the way Morgan approaches throwing the ball back there. Sam works on his hands to the point where I I would. I would say SAM's hands, rival, you know, like Odell Beckham any day of the week. You know, you got a, you got guys that grind on these on these details together. You know the ball, the ball almost kicks it self. You gotta have the right guy to kick it, but the, you know, the way these guys serve it up for me. It's, you know, it's, it's the best possible situation that a kicker could cook, kicker, could could possibly want to be in. I'm gonna finish with this question. I wonder I I would consider in Bill Belichick just talked about it this week. I would consider the best kick for the circumstances that I've ever seen in my life at events. Harry's kick through the snow in the playoff game. The tuck rule game against Oakland in two thousand one that was the patriots first Super Bowl year. Do you have any recollection of watching that kick when you must have been whatever, like eleven years old or something? Do you have? Do you? Were you watching that game or d. remember seeing that kick at all? I do. I do. I remember seeing. I remember that whole Super Bowl run and Attari knocking down the winter. That was when they played the, they played the Rams of that year. That's right. Okay. Yeah. So I remember, do you remember the kick against the raiders that forty five yards in the snow? Did you watch that? I do far and I'm with you that's far away the most impressive kick that I've ever seen anybody make to to be able to come through in that moment as big a moment as that that is in tough conditions as you could possibly be facing. And that's why he's goat. That's why Adam is the the best to do it. But I remember seeing that and seeing the Super Bowl following and then seeing Adam kick not just one, but two winters and Super Bowls. That was what prompted me and my dad to reach out to the guy who had. Initially trained Adam when he was living in his basically living in his pickup truck. And this guy's driveway in Abingdon, Virginia kicking next to to a graveyard learning how to kick a ball, you know the right way in that that coaches, Doug Blevins, of course, but seeing those seeing Adam mango is the guy who taught who taught Viteri. Yep. And seeing seeing Adam make those kicks prompted, you know us to, you know, get my first formal introduction into or formal instruction as to how to properly kickable with a time to kick all properly. I don't wanna split infinitive there. You were. You were a kicker in Texas at the time as a kid or. No, I I wanna say I was what year was that game thousand one summer of winter of two thousand one. Yeah, that's right. So so I, yeah, I was. I was playing soccer. I. Hadn't started playing football yet, but I was playing soccer and it was, you know, it was those kicks that you know, the Super Bowl winner against the Panthers and then looking back even farther, you know, once I got a chance to kind of dive deep into Adams, resume of big kicks in. There are a lot of them seeing all of that together is what prompted me to really take kicking the ball seriously. Wow. I had no idea about that. That's really, really interesting. Well, listen, we could talk for three hours someday. Maybe we will, but I really, really appreciate you talking to me about kicking and your life and what got you into it and everything like that. Justin. Thanks a lot for joining me on the podcast of course next year, having me Peter. You know what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes, but you know what is smart? ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash king. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you. 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Back on the Peter King podcast, happy to be joined today in studio by Gary Myers who has written a really, really interesting book. You're gonna hear a lot about this month. It's called how about them Cowboys. And of course it's a book about the Dallas Cowboys. Gary Myers covered in the eighties broke. A lot of stories on in the eighties was an absolute in the saddle for the old cowboy regime of Tex Schramm gillibrand, Tom Landry, but also very, very highly respected by them as well. But anyway, Gary happy to be joined by you and how are you doing? I'm doing great. I really appreciate you have me on. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, we. I, this is the way I feel about books about the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, what else is there left to say, right? I mean, you know about this era of the last era, whatever era about anything about Jerry Jones. But this is the thing that I find interesting about this book. Okay, so and I'm be honest, we have not read it covered a cover, but I have spent two hours with the other night going through it searching out little snippets to ask you about, and there's a lot of interesting little points that you make in here, but I want to start by asking you a journalism question when something is such well, trod ground and everybody has written and talked about him. They got the biggest media contingent in the world and all that. What. Makes you so confident that you can come up with something that people don't know or that you can come up with a book full of stuff that people don't know. That's a great question. And I think I'll stop by saying that I feel I have a unique perspective on the Cowboys having been there for eight years and covered him on a day-to-day basis and been there for the end of the land you regime and the very beginning of the Jerry Jimmy regime. So I think I have that background in grain and may just by being there. Then I think there was a lot of territory that needed to be covered in this book. I know that Jeff promo came out with a book. I think I ten or twelve years ago maybe that just to a completely different approach that was more. I don't know if I want to use the word scandalous, but a lot of the stuff that happened behind the scenes. You know, off the field stuff that kind of played into the page six mentality that a lot of people have and it was. It was very interesting and interesting read the approach to originally the name of the book was gonna Cowboys Inc, and I was going to write just about the business aspect of the Cowboys and how a team that hasn't been in the Super Bowl in over twenty years is stole the most popular profitable and highly valued team in the world. And then you know, I saw talking to Jerry and Stephen Charlotte, and Jerry junior, and then Rome on Witton and. Then Everson walls and Tony Dorsett. I just found those a lot of stuff there that really interested me. So I convinced that Cowboys Inc idea into chapter two. And the rest of it I think is really fun behind the scene stuff about how this really what is a five billion dollar mom and pop operation how it really works on a day-to-day basis. I think there's some great anecdotal type stories in there that people really gonna enjoy reading. I want you to start at the beginning because to me the Jerry Jones, Tom Landry relationship for those for younger listeners who don't quite remember this. Jerry Jones bought this team in nineteen eighty nine. And when he bought the team, he had to make a gigantic change. He felt he got rid of the coach, Tom Landry. And he got rid of basically all the people who were closely identified with the Dallas Cowboys at the time. You know, you're getting rid of Tex Schramm and you're getting rid of Gil Brandt. And this at the time they had had a nearly thirty year run of greatness. Maybe twenty twenty three of great, but a thirty year memorable memorable run and he he got rid of all. And and the story for years was that Tom Landry went to his grave hating Jerry Jones and being bitter over being fired, and you contributed some reporting to this that I have to admit. I had no idea about. Yeah, I mean, and speaking to Gerry. I asked them. How many times did he run into Landry between the time he went down to Austin to fire him, and when Tom passed away and your early two, thousands, and he said he had seen them a year or two later at the giants. Ravens swear bowl in Tampa, kinda cross paths at a restaurant. And then after that, he kept asking Tom to let him be inducted into the ring of honor and Tom kept turning 'em down. And then Jerry told me the story and I didn't know this that there was signs on the highway in Dallas ridiculing Tom for not accepting Jerry's invitation to be in the ring of honor, calling him a chicken, and I would have liked to see some sides, but So Jerry was really bothered by that. And one of the reasons he bought the team was because of the success that a guy like land that Tom Landry had in developing the image and reputation and a brand of the Cowboys. It made it very attractive for joy to wanna buy the team, but he wanted Jimmy Johnson as coach. He wanted. He would want to Jimmy Johnson of his coach as coach, regardless of who was coaching the cowboy. So he felt really bad about relationship that he didn't have what Tom and they had a mutual friend named Bill park who was at the time to president of Kroger's really big supermarket chain throughout Dallas and other parts of the country, and Bill acted as intermediary and offered to set up a lunch between Jerry and Tom at bill's house in Dallas and Tom accepted the invitation and the sat around the living room for a little bit. And then Bill had a a lunch set up in the dining room, and he left the two of them alone and they spoke for hours and they came out of that lunch with Tom, having agreed to be inducted in the ring on or and a couple months later during the ninety, three season, Tom Landry stood at midfield at a Texas stadium and accepted being inducted. So really cool story. And then Jerry later got the statue of. Tom outside Texas stadium when that stadium was about to be imploded and they were opening the new one, Jerry put the stadium the statue in storage facilities keeping. And that was once the stadium was complete. They put it back up outside one of the gates at eighteen stadium. So I don't know how much contact necessarily had in the years after the ring of honor. And then Tom passing away like eight or ten years later, but I know that they were on good terms and that lunch is what set it all I was gonna ask you. So how do you think Tom Landry felt in his last years on earth of Jerry Jones? I think he was fine with them. He really did understand that when the team gets sold and it was the second time the team had been sold when Vom bright bought the team in eighty four. He was about his hands off and owners. You composites. Imagine he hated Landry but wouldn't fire him. He hate Lange because ignored him at a cocktail party once and he never forgave him. And wanted Schramm to fire them. But text wouldn't do it teeters Peter. The really interesting thing and this is the truth and I lived through this. So I know in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight, two Cowboys with three and thirteen eighty seven to fans love the strike team replacement t. more than they loved the regular team. They wanted to the players to stand on strike in eighty seven because the replacement team to them was fun. It was young team and the cared and they had grown tired of the Landry era. The cowboy fans used to call Brad Shams. Radio show in Dallas and plead with him Tex please fire Landry became past and by. We've had enough Lange. We need one of these young guys in here. So then in February of eighty nine, Jerry Jones comes in does exactly exactly what I want to interrupt. You ask you one quest that, but isn't it true that the Dallas Cowboys almost almost intact trims last year. You know before he ever almost hired mardi shot. Heimer. You know, I never heard the Schottenheimer part, but he tried to hire Jimmy Johnson that I know. Wow. So I- perhap- was shot in Highmore to be the head coach is okay. See, I noted Texan. Schottenheimer close because the competition committee. But the story that I heard was a text reached out to Jimmy because Jimmy was was rumored to be talking to the eagles and said, we don't want you to go to Philadelphia come here as defensive coordinator. It's only a matter of time before I convinced Tom to quit, and you'll be the head coach. He actually did that with Paul Hackett in eighty six hiring him from the forty Niners Tom hated Hackett. He was made the passing game coordinator at a time that everybody was just an offense. Of course, always pretty tough when you get told to hire a guy. Oh yeah. On your staff, you know, and Jimmy, Jimmy. I don't know if he's got revisionist history or what, but he claims that he doesn't recall that conversation with Tex offering to come in his to coordinate. But techs told me the story. So I know that it was true and Jimmy at that point had won a national championship in Miami and he wasn't going anywhere unless he was going to be a head coach. So anyhow, just finish this up in February. Eighty nine. Jerry comes in bum, bright, had offered to fire Landry for him to kind of limb stole with a clean slate. And Jerry says, no, you know, I want to be a man about this. This is my decision. I'll do it. So you get this guy from the wrong side of the Red River in Arkansas coming in and firing Saint Landry who all of a sudden became a mater Peter. They threw a parade in downtown Dallas with a hundred thousand people showing up every got fired the same fans once in a hanging effigy earlier. So is me of Eli manning now. So I always contained. They're getting fired was the best thing that happened to Landry post football years because instead of going out as a coach, who lot of people thought the game had passed him by he went out as mortar figure like poor time, you know, Joe, how dare Jerry Jones fire our Tom, when in reality they wanted him fired and Jerry did what they wanted. Gary Myers author of a new book on the Dallas Cowboys, which I really like, how about them Cowboys inside the huddle with the stars and legends of America's team, Gary, I think not many people know the next two things I'm gonna ask you about her things that I don't believe. Many people know. The first one is. When Jerry Jones bought this team in nineteen eighty nine, he was stretched so thin to buy this team to come up with the cash that there were times during the process where even he admitted to those closest to him. I don't think I have the money to do this. This is really going to be a stretch, how so a, how desperately did Jerry Jones wanna buy this team when it was really at its dear of of being any good, you know? And then do you think there is a chance that maybe he wasn't going to get approved while I think the only way he wouldn't have got approved if it didn't come out with his wonderful golden parachute fatigue Schramm because. Tex was very close with Roselle and all the owners and and Jerry was was running him off. So the point that a came for Jerry to get approved or not approved, I don't think it was an issue. The financial was an issue and besides the fact, and they changed roles after he had already fired Landry he got rid of shrimp and brand, and now they were going to say, no, we're not approving you. So they changed the rules. These guys will buying teams can no longer make these changes until they get approved, which makes a lot of sense, but the Cowboys losing a million dollars a month when Jerry took over right. And that was a terrible strain on him. And that's why he was concentrating almost entirely on the business side and lending Jimmy handle the football operation besides the fact that they took over team that had no talent, but did inherit the first pick in the draft and took Troy Aikman and had Herschel Walker. And we know that they made that great trade that set them up for the future. But financially the fans weren't coming out anymore. Team went one in fifteen thought to Jerry Jimmy. We're over their heads. I asked you like to story, I asked Jerry, what's the worst business deal he ever made? And he was, you know, Jerry talks and it's sometimes you know, you really got to cut through it, but he had bought an interest in a bunch of cellphone companies around eighty seven or eight. And he didn't pay tremendous amount of money for it a couple hundred thousand dollars. But when it came time to buy the team, he had a cell that interest because he needed the money to put towards the purchase of the team. We sold it for a million dollars and then the cell phone era exploded and eight years later, that portion that he Seoul was were seven hundred million dollars a home. I got. Was he sick about it? Well, he was except when I said, well, you pay one hundred and fifty four million for the Cowboys. So now worth five billion. And if you actually needed that million to buy them, then it was probably a good deal. He was just, you know, that just really shows that he really was scraping together every last bit as most people do when they're when they're buying their first house or something like that. This was a dream his, you know, he almost bought the chargers. Many years earlier in his father talked him out of it, and he told me a story about when his father Pat cold them after bought the team and basically says to son, I've been reading everything about you. You're getting killed in the papers, you better not strew this up and it goes, thanks that. So Gary for people who might have an impression of Jerry Jones, who might think that, for instance, he's a, he's just a loud mouth and and maybe as looked into some of this and all that. Tell people about the Jerry Jones who you know. Well, the Jerry Jones that I got to know when my three months in Dallas before I moved back to New York. So basically February through may of of nine hundred ninety. Nine was a guy who I almost felt sorry for in a way because of the way he was being treated in the media and by the fans, everybody thinking who, as bumpkin from Arkansas who had no clue what he was doing, you know, fired the whole organization. Then he started losing and people really data that he knew what he was doing. But the Jerry that I know that I know now he's got to be the smartest businessman I've ever come across. And there are a lot of good businessman. Robert Kraft obviously is tremendous, but what he's done with the stadium and the star to further the brand of the Cowboys. Is amazing. We know how he got into the whole fame basically because of the way he helped the NFL. Changes business operation, interred millionaires into billionaires, but the things that he's done with his team, for example. Joey junior had a lot to do with some of the things that go on the star and Jerry are for everybody who training complex is training complex, which is beyond state of the art, right? So Jerry junior, just coming up with these ideas to spend a million dollars on a on a meeting room or draft room, and just those things extravagantly and Jerry said we'd better not lose money on this. I don't have the stomach for this, and so the draft room they with one of their sponsors. I wrote a run contest towards the end of August. You win the contest. You get to hold your fantasy draft in the same room that Cowboys Cowboys war-room came. That's great. Bell check nets the team meeting room. They rent out to corporations for for retreats. And so he's found a way to squeeze every dollar out of that building and they were going to open a health club in conjunction with equinoxes. Yeah. And when they found out that the return on the dollar was so tremendous thirty five percent, right? You make you make thirty five cents on every dollar. That's right. I read that in the book and I said, Jerry is not going to let that stand. No. So Jerry junior has a meeting with the guy from equinoxes and comes back and says, dad, we don't want to be in business with somebody on a on a health club. We want to own. So they they have a magnificent magnificent health club at the star. And if you're looking, you get to be in the hot tub. Dak Prescott. Do you know that they had a Mariah machine at valley ranch, which was a role training complex as you know, and they just thought it would make it easier to have the machine there, but it wasn't really financially feasible. They weren't getting their money's worth out of it as many injuries as you have any NFL you're still not getting your money's worth out of a very expensive machine. So with the doctors in the area, they to conjunction with a lot of the doctors and their patients that you send your patients to valley ranch. You know, they charge them for the city Mariah, but you you can have your patients in the same MRI machine is Jason Witten. And they had them lining up. I mean, even people who weren't hurt when. You want to be in the same MRI machine as Tony Romo when it had his collarbone broken who wouldn't hit. So I wanna I want to end by talking a little bit about modern times and by asking about. Roger Goodell Jerry Jones. We all know that Jerry fought every step of the way and when Zeki Elliott got a six game suspension before the two thousand seventeen season. But I, I wanna know what you know that I don't know about this because there are some things in there that really a lot of people didn't know because it was a strange time to refresh everyone's memory. This suspension took place not long after Jerry gut into the pro football hall of fame was enshrine had is, you know, had his speech in canton and had a party where Roger Goodell attended it. And Roger Goodell had to know when he attended that already that he was going to be whacking Jerry Jones within a matter of days or maybe a couple of weeks. So what don't I know that you know about this Jerry to this day stone SIS, that Roger had told. Him that he was not suspending Elliott, and he told me that for the third time and as recently as the March league meetings in Orlando this year, and after he told me that I met with Roger after his final press conference the league meeting, and I said, I just need to ask you this again, Jerry insists that you told them Zeke was not being suspended. Would you have say to that? He goes to that happen. He goes, no, n period opioid, no. Is something about that you don't understand. Don't kill me. I'm only the messenger, but the thing that's interesting about Jerry's whole famed party. I can remember. No. Okay. So I was there and I saw Roger there and I did not see when they were talking and I have a great picture in the book of Jerry and Bon Jovi and Roger standing together all with a glass of whatever in their hands. And so the caption in the in the road in the book was Jerry Jones was living on a prayer if you thought that Roger, good anyhow, Rogers at that party. Now, five days later is when he call Jerry to save suspending Zeke. So you know that Roger had a note that warning. And so what he didn't wanna do was ruined Gerry's weekend, right? But what he did do was Rune Jerry season and five days later when he called him, Jerry says, don't do that. And Jerry says, while I will call you back when my official. Vision tomorrow, and he called him back and said, I'm suspending him six games and the relationship between Jerry and Roger right now is really interesting, but Jerry was very quick to point out that he goes, you know, I still send Roger a Christmas card and a Christmas ornament this year alone, every owner. And I do that every year. So I think Jerry's business acumen is crucial to the league, and I think it's important for Roger, not to not sure agreed with Elliott suspension, but at least a length of it. But I think it's really important important for Roger, not to play favorites, and he's probably alienated who's to closest allies in the last four or five years in Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones finishing up with Gary Myers, Gary. The last thing I would say about just the Cowboys kind of imprint on society. I guess I would ask you why after doing the research this book d, you believe that the Cowboys are such a gigantic part of Americana. It's a phenomenon and I really do believe they've completely surpassed the Yankees and Notre Dame, and even if the basketball team you want to mention, they just didn't unbelievable job in the late sixties when they lost this championship games too. The Packers of becoming a team that took to heart strings of football fans, because he always such an underdog, they were only you know, the only came into being in nineteen sixty and by the mid sixties. They were going against, you know, Lombardi Packers for championships and then being on on the late afternoon slot on thanksgiving every year, which Schramm volunteered forecast. Nobody ever wanted to play on thanksgiving. So for the lions and the Cowboys and getting that late afternoon slot more from not having a late afternoon doubleheader game on CBS or FOX or NBC being on Monday night football when it was a really, really big deal to be a Monday night football. More than anybody else. Now, you know with you there on Sunday night football more than any other team, they, they have just people. The love them is such a cliche, but it's really true people either love him or hate him, and nobody feels indifferent about him. And that was, that's what makes them really special. I'm doing a book signing in New York at a bar in Manhattan at bills itself is the official bar of the TAOs Cowboys. They have their watch parties there every Sunday. I had no idea Cowboys fan club in there in every city in the country. I know that with a moose calls at giant stadium in a big game of ninety three between the Cowboys and giants, and it was blown away by how many cowboy fans have gotten into into building. But to think does actually two bars. Manhattan I'm doing signings at that are calbos bars, and I'm doing this is really cool. I'm doing a signing at at star in October eighteenth and have Jason Witten, Daryl Johnston and Everson walls joining me. So that's going to be great. It's going to be a lot of funny. A lot of fun, Gary Myers author of how about them Cowboys inside the huddle with the stars and legends of America's team. Thanks so much for joining Gary Peter. I've known you forever, and this is the first time you've ever asked me questions and it was a lot of fun. I think you have me on. Thanks to my guess Justin, Tucker, and Gary mind. If you enjoy these conversations shirtless and subscribe to other great episodes. 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But more importantly, what happened to the Ohio State against Purdue by the way this day in sports history to quarterbacks combined for one hundred and twenty five points to quarterbacks combined for twelve touchdowns in one interception those two quarterbacks on this day in two thousand sixteen Patrick Mahomes through eighty eight passes for five touchdown, seven hundred thirty four yards. Baker Mayfield junior the third through for five, forty five and seven touchdowns those two teams combining for a hundred and twenty five points. Dan, Patrick show brought to you by the great folks at. Mercedes, the twenty eighteen Mercedes AMC classes, suite of innovative technologies. One of the most intelligent cars on the road go to m b. USA dot com or visit your local dealerships. Got your test drive today. Got a poll question. Mclovin promised to update the poll results. Okay. Biggest surprise of the weekend. Your choices being that there was already an NBA brawl the Jags bench. Blake Bortles, Justin Tucker, MRs gained signing extra point or Purdue beat Ohio State fifty, nine percent Purdue beat Ohio State. Second, Justin, Tucker missing the extra point. I'm going to bring back when I read with Pat forty from Yahoo sports, he covers college football. He says something is flawed in urban Meyer's program. Outside of Alabama. Ohio State is the deepest reservoir of talent in the nation. The past three buckeyes recruiting classes have all ranked in the rivals dot com. Top three nationally twenty-six players taken in the past three NFL drafts ten of those picks have been taken in the first round, Alabama had nine first rounders over the same period of time. You know, Pat forty also says that this is a team in the face of adversity. They lack poised, they lack resilience, they lack of plan b. They lacked daring. They don't lose scratching and clawing they lose rolling over. That's probably what stood out more than anything on Saturday night. When I watched that game Purdue had momentum, they had the home field. It's their Super Bowl. This is their moment and they took advantage of that, but Ohio State in the fourth quarter allowed Perdue to put up twenty eight points. I'm not saying I shouldn't say a loud, but certainly didn't look formidable in preventing them and they didn't put up a full fight there. And Ohio State goes down and also I look at urban Meyer and and look, maybe I'm reading more into this, but he doesn't look healthy, doesn't. And I wonder about some of these players who could be playing in the NFL next year. Are they playing to protect themselves a little bit because maybe they're looking at what happened with Nick Bosa. This was suggested to me by a college scout last hour springing curb street. Herbie was there on the call with Chris Fowler also in Washington state, a historic game day weekend. Herbie joins us. Now, how are you? Kirk, I'm Craig, Dan. How are you doing? What do you make of what I had to say about Ohio State. You know, I think there I said during the broadcast, this is different than Ohio State going up dia with city last year and and j. t. Barrett, having a tough night highest getting bombed, they were able to kinda get back to the drawing board and and kinda clean some things up. And they had veteran leaders like j. t. Barrett, Billy price, this team that you know with all of the side show that was going on before the season urban Meyer comes back and there's there's issues there if you really have watched them their their defense linebacker play. The safety play. His been very Radic, Nick Bosa decides to leave the team who was a captain of the team. And you know, his dad kind of made it sound like he wasn't going to come back til mid December anyway. So he wanted to focus on getting ready and and so you can't run the football. They offense of line, say whatever they want the line of struggling. They put seventy two times. Against Purdue. So I think there's a lot there and I think urban Meyer on her percent agree with the urban Meyer. He's not gonna talk about a publicly, you know, two or three weeks ago. He took a knee, you know, we kind of grabbed his head and it says that having headaches, he doesn't look this the way he's looked since he's been. I don't have a state where he said, listen, if I'm gonna take this Ohio State job. After what I went to Florida, I'm gonna keep my priorities, straight family. I not gonna get, you know, out of wack. And if if you watch him on the sidelines, he's been back, looks just, I'm bored. I've used his anguish. He looks frustrated. He looks very emotional and erotic and his team right now, we're going to find out what they're what they're made out of. Because, like I said, you lost I, you had leaders, you back, you lose this year. We'll see how they respond, but they've got they got some big problems. Can they still make the playoffs if they've gone from number two to number eleven? What has to happen for Ohio State? Well, if I think first of all, they're going to worry about tackling and running football before they were. Playoffs. But the reality is that you had a bye week this week to get healthy, got Nebraska at home. They go up to east Lansing. They go to Maryland and know how things are if they were able to play better the the way they're playing right now, they could lose to the Brask who who can score a lot of points. But if they played better and play the way they're capable, then I think they if they win those games against Nebraska, Michigan, state and Maryland, there's a really good chance that you're looking at the winner of the Ohio State Michigan game winning the big ten east and then getting into the big ten championship and they would have a shot. Then if joke it, how it sits right now, you've got our Bama Clemson yet Notre Dame. The potential Arctic could be the winner of the big twelve championship against the winner of the pinch, happy and ship. If it's a high of state or Michigan, trying to say that they deserve to be in their inefficient and wins. Would would probably end up in the team to to go to the playoff. Jim Harbaugh goes from some of their own fans thinking he can't win the big game, possibly making a make it a play on front best team, other than Alabama is who. Clemson. Okay. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're, they're fine. I think there finally kind of finding their stride. Their defense is really, really good, especially up front and you know the quarterback situation with Kelly Bryant leaving Trevor Lawrence coming in through freshman. A lot of people raise the ri- browse about that, but Trevor Lawrence is is a difference maker. He's not maybe to as level yet. They Alabama quarterback, but he's got so much potential. He just seems to be getting better and better each week with more experience. So yeah, I clearly there, there's Alabama and there's Clemson, and then there's a, in my opinion. Anyway, I think there's a pretty significant gap and then you start to get to LSU and Notre Dame and Michigan. And from that point down, do you think that if we keep seeing sort of Alabama Clemson, the next couple of years than the momentum to open this up to make it an eight game playoff the is this going to help build momentum to change. The system once that contract expires, if you asked me, I would say yes, yes. He, he and I disagree re Reese would tell you if you wanna change being a beat these teams like I, I love the idea. I always wanted to be just for college. Football's record season matters. I don't want it to become March madness where nobody cares about two regular season. Give me my bracket. Let's watched the foot three weeks at the end football man week or excited about what what's happening. And we sat being said after watching the since fourteen twenty fourteen, I wouldn't love to see it expanded. I'd have to see it go to six or possibly eight and have more teams with Assad to get in there at the end because it what you're saying Clemson, Alabama. It's somewhat broke records, like LeBron just be with the Cavs and in Golden State. It's, you know everything else that happens during the regular season for you out and get to LeBron on up against Golden State. That's how it kind of feels with college football with our Bama and and. Clemson right now, so I wouldn't have a problem opening this thing up at all. We'll see if it happens, but you know, I think that the conference commissioners have made it pretty clear that they're gonna stay at four for now and it's gonna take something pretty big. I think for them to change their vines, he's curb street from the mothership on the call, Texas Oklahoma state coming up this Saturday on ABC college game day. We'll be in Jacksonville for Florida versus Georgia. What was it like getting out of the stadium in west Lafayette on Saturday night? And I might, like you said, game day in the morning, and I stayed for my high school. My boys are in high school down. There's my twins or seniors and Claire Nashville inside states for their gain hiding that I flew to to Pullman and got in, and I don't have some fun game days over the years, but that was as crazy and festive of an atmosphere throughout the entire show before the show after the show. And and so. So I left that scene which was crazy and food about four hours to twist Lafayette. And I said, this was not a surprise that Ohio's they lost a pretty. I said in August Ohio states potential Iowa game that they gotta be ready for is at Purdue and produce is a team that maybe people they weren't proof fans don't really respect. They started the Owen three, but they've been getting better. Their coach is big time Jeff Brahm and they've got a great quarterback run deal more. Maybe the most electrifying player in the country's true freshman, and and they want you saw the scene after the game, the tired fan base on the field when those moments in college football and trying to get out of there. I mean, it was kind of what you would expect. It's it's like going back to you d, the ghetto after the flyers, a huge game. You know, it's that kind of scene that makes college football so unique and they were. They were obviously fired up about that big upset. I mentioned that on this day. Couple years ago Mahomes went against a Baker Mayfield and Mahomes. I think through seventy two times, where do you know we look at, you know, Mahomes now and everybody goes, oh, I saw all of this greatness here. Do you remember the first? Do you remember the first time you saw him a homes and what your reaction was. You know what I do remember, and I thought it was just another Texas Tech quarterback in the system, throwing the ball around fifty sixty seventy times and they really think much about it. I, I personally have a hard time evaluating Texas Tech, air raid quarterbacks and how they're gonna fit in the NFL and to their credit. The NFL has tweaked is, as we see with Kansas City LA Chicago, in certain cases with Brady and doing Lind, they're tweaking things and becoming a little bit more like college football and think about Andy Reid who grew up in the west coast offense for him to recognize the stingy of the game that instead of saying just being, hey, I'm a west coast guy. This my offense, he decides to tweet his his system to his quarterback strength, and the rest is history. I mean, I'm I'm a Bengals fan and I watched that game last night. Almost just felt bad for him watching. Try to defend the playmakers around Mahomes, but I would have never don't think anybody could have ever told you that Patrick Mahomes going to become what he is now in the NFL because it was so hard to predict how do these air raid Cornerbacks transition into the NFL. They're going to drop back seven steps in the pocket wreath defenses, you know, and it's not many of them do well in in this guy, obviously is is off to to stay brilliant career good stuff. And thanks for being honest about Patrick Mahomes because now I'm here in everybody going on new. This guy was going to be great. No, nobody knew it. Nobody. I mean, he might have known it when he was a rookie because people saw Kansas City was doing with their offense. But tell me any difference between what he was doing and every single guy with the last eight or ten years in Texas. Tech's offense was knowing. It it was. He deserves a lot of credit, special talent, but I think Andy Reid, recognizing that talent and tweaking his system deserves just as much more credit for for adjusting his offense. Good stuff. Herbie safe travels. Thanks for joining us. That's a Kirk curb street ESPN college football analysts, wanna travel schedule. Thank you. You go to Washington state, and then you go to west Lafayette and then go back home for a couple of days. Then he's got Texas Tech, Oklahoma state, but he's going to be in Jacksonville for game day. Yes. See, Pullman doesn't strike me as an easy place to get to either. I'm gonna guess it's private getting in there, arby's commercial. I don't think so. I don't think so. He might be a coach, but he's not flying coach. I'm gonna guess that wheels up is probably taking care of Herbie getting them in and out of those tight pleaser west Lafayette to probably flying in there and you know, not a lot of direct flights, they're probably get a little police escort there. Take care of them a little bit. Yeah, pulling you'd never taken that morning. West Lafayette soup. Pullman shuttle? I have not, no, but I'm willing to when I retire. I would love to be able to go to two places for football games that I've never been to. And I always wanted to to Washington Washington state. Eight, Oregon, Oregon state? Yes. Why wait? Well, if only you had a job that facilitates such as I know, I I'm trying to make that happen where we get to go to games onset. We're going to go to UCLA USC. I told you that we're going to do that this year. It would help. If you see an USC we're a little better, but it's still going to be UCLA US a flex out of that one are, you know, I'm not going to thought about flexing out of it UCLA starting to play better. Well, US's got a quarterback issue when they gotta find a quarterback, they're injured. I, we'll come back. We'll give you our best and worst of the weekend and more on the fallout from the Lakers and rockets including a few things that you probably didn't know happened that night. We'll have that for you coming up next seventeen. After the hour. Dan, Patrick show fellas this college football season. Remember that a little exaggeration makes everything more interest. Sunday, like dough seconds. Now, did you know this Andrew? Actually. That does seconds is the only beer that fills every college football. It's actually inside of each football. Most people don't know that it's true story for real. Yeah. Yeah. It's the only beer that's had its number retired. You know, the taste of dough seconds actually led president Ben Franklin to tear down a goal post. He's the first person I president for sure, but the first person that we think of that was tearing down goalposts Ben Franklin. That's interesting. I don't really remember that. Well, his presidential tenure is often forgotten. 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What do you have for me. So I don't have a worse for the weekend because I'm a boiler Baker. So I only have a best in a better, but most of the weekend, obviously Purdue crushing Ohio State and just embarrassing them in the second half and better was seeing produce off more Tyler. Trent who's going through cancer for the third time, not only call the wind would be able to be there and see it happen. That was a great story, Tom, Rinaldi, doing a great job with that. Thank you p being able to be there for the game. They interviewed him during the game. Pretty cool moment there drew in Wisconsin joins us. Hi, drew. Hey, Dan, hey, doing good, sir. What do you have for me? Okay. So obviously the hot topic is Patrick Mahomes, but just a ridiculous start. But you see this more as the stars allying so to speak with the chiefs with any read what he's done with him, Kelsey hill, everyone kinda kinda going nuts at the same time or do you see this carrying over for years and years to come as far as a superstar in the making? Well, I think it's going to be something for years to come. Everybody cools off, defenses, figure you out. You know, Kurt Warner cooled off and he, you know, the greatest show on turf. They had all the weapons there. You have to have weapons, and you got the leading rusher in the league. You got maybe the best tight end in the league. And you got the fastest wide receiver in the league, maybe the best receiver in the league. So if I put those three in there and I have a good offensive line, then you have something and you got a guy who can throw the ball as far as anybody, but he also has great touch. And a high football IQ. Those are things that you don't get using that combination there and Mahomes who shown that. You know he'll have those days when he's not playing great, but when he is they're playing great. They're going to put up. They're gonna put up a forty burger on you. And that's what happened last night with the Bengals. It didn't matter what the Bengals did. No, can't city had an answer for that and they played it tough schedule. They played, you know, they, they beat the chargers already. They went toe to toe with the patriots here. That's what I want to see when you're going against these teams in the AFC because if you're a chief's fan to be able to host, that's the cage, it's like the Rams. It's not. You're gonna win your division. It's make sure you get home field advantage there because then you know that's where championship routes music begin. Now, when you have that that advantage there now we've seen teams that go on the road defense always travels as they say, the ravens were able to go to New England. They weren't afraid to do that. There's certain teams that aren't afraid to travel and. You know. But if you have that home field advantage and you can't city because Kansas City's defense is not great. But I do think if I'm if there's one team that meet needs to make a deal at the trade deadline, it's Kansas City. If you can help shore up your defense. Now you get Eric berry back man of Patrick Peterson would be available then that would be something where you just kind of swoop in and say, all right, we'll take the hit here and give up a couple of picks later, but we got a chance to do something special. He's the NBA insider for USA today. Sam amick. He Elsa rights for the athletes and he joins us. Now his recent column, spit spat at Staples and account of what happened before during and well after the Lakers rockets fight. Good morning, Sam. Thanks for joining us. How are you. Dan, I'm doing great side actually made the full switch. My friend athletic old me at this point, but USA today was great for me, but appreciate jamming already told me what happened before the fight between the rockets and Lakers. So while I mean it depends on honestly how far back we wanna go. We could do a whole show talking about raise on Rondo and Chris Paul, and and you know, the more you pro the onion, the layers back on the onion on that relationship. The more you get reminded that these are two guys who just have not liked each other for a long time. You know, you have stuff with team USA. I believe in two thousand eight where Chris Paul was getting a spot in the team that Rondo thought he deserve. You have fisticuffs in two thousand nine or at least you know tension in New Orleans. Boston game where after the game came to an end, you know, they got into it a little bit, and so you have to guys who have chirped at each other for a long time, and you hear things about how essentially Rondo would get under Chris's skinned by by by going down the road of like I have a championship, that type of thing you want and you're never gonna get, and he would get it as head and that way. And then Chris would say, you know, I mean, listen, he's the far superior point guard and. They would kind of have an air about him move. You know, I'm the king of the point guard mountain so to speak. So these guys didn't like each other and you know that day in the game, if I had to highlight one play more than any other, it was the one in the first half where Chris Chuck's Rondo as he's driving from the right side. Rondo goes flying and you know it was a strong play on Christmas part. And after he you know, rhymed or doesn't get the whistle. Chris gets the bucket, Chris flexes twice to the ground and kinda plays it up a little bit for what I heard Rondo from that point on would not stop talking to Chris and and you know the sparks kinda started flying at that point. Do you think Rondo spin on. I I do. I mean, listen, it's technologies, incredible thing. And yesterday when I get the video of that situation, you know, we've seen in video on Twitter and social media already, obviously. But you know, when you have a two hundred megabyte video that we got our hands on at the Atlantic and I'm looking at a high res- laptop screen where you can just sit there and watch Rondo appear to kind of check his his. You know, his left side real quick to almost as if he was, you know, seeing if official Jay Phillips was within, you know, kinda, I shot that he was going to see him and then you see, you know, spittle spit, whatever you wanna call it, come out and Rondos mouth and and go towards Chris. I mean at minimum if you put yourself in Chris's shoes, it said idea that you know that Rondos spit just landed on you. You can't judge intent, but at that point, Chris doesn't care. You just sit on me and that's always gonna be a trigger. I was surprised Ingram only got four in even Rondo if even if it's accidental, spit, I would have given him more just for that gesture, Paul Anderson retaliating you're gonna pop him for a couple of games, Ingram with a cheap shot there where somebody really, really could've gotten hurt and the fact that Rondo spit on Chris, Paul did the NBA get it right with the suspensions, in your opinion. I think they would like to be honest with you. I'm a little surprised by some of the feedback within the league. In fact, last night I went out to the clippers rockets game and caught up with Doc Rivers a little bit afterward, and I wanted to get docs opinion on that question if he thought it was light. And if as a coach, you had any concern across the league that you know if if you put yourself in the players shoes, are they still going to have the metallic of? And nobody wants to fight in this league because it costs you so much money. So on the one hand, yeah, I know it still costs guys a lot of money, but I feel as if the league is playing that card too much, meaning they will. They will tell the media like, hey, listen, Chris lost x. amount, Brandon, Los x. amount of money. But these guys make an incredible about, and I think the player perspective more likely is all right. If I have a problem in a game and I'm really upset with a guy now in my head, like I'm probably going to get two games and I. I think maybe I'm okay with that because this dude is really ticking me off. Like I, you know, that's where my head is that I think it could lead to more on the court stuff doctors agreed doc dot that they, they essentially got it right. And that you know, they didn't need to go any harder. This might good for the league. Man, I dunno. It almost depends on what comes next, you know vacuum, yes, but you know what? It made me think of Dan and this is maybe a reach is, you know, and I'm not a UFC guys, apologize if I get any of the details wrong. But like the the McGregor, you know, abused situation like, like, you know, when you have controversy when you have over the top, you know stuff like this entertainment, wise, entertainment value speaking. It's it's great for that entity because it draws interest. I get in a, you know, a car yesterday to to just get a lift ride to the arena, and the guys talking to me about what happened. Everybody's talking about what happened. So the NBA is front and center. But you know if it does open the door to more stuff like this, then you have, then it becomes a turnoff to a certain audience and then business wise you, I think you end up taking down a negative road. I know it's a small sample size, but the product on the floor for the Lakers. But what do you like what concerns you. I like the lettuce schism. Like, you know, the the tempo, the in honestly, is a guy who it's it's a lot of it's weird. We almost in the media where frayed to use the word fun. Like can't ever admit that you're having a good time. It is fun to watch the impact that LeBron has on other basketball players. So I think that is enjoyable because you already see the ripple effect of his presence, but the, you know what, I don't like shooting and obvious problem defense going to be a problem, lack of big men, obviously a problem leaning on Bill McGee way too much. I give Vale credit for having carved out the career that he has at this point. I mean, the guy's got rings the guys now playing with LeBron. That's fantastic. But you know the other night in that game, you're, you're looking at it and authentically. I mean, they were featuring jail pretty routine. You know, what are we looking at? And, and I'm not. Even trying to play that card of, you know the, he's not a punchline, but Luca's on the floor. Like what? What we're we're featuring Jill and then he's playing big minutes and then you know, so that those are problems and there. I think, honestly, in terms of the context of the season, this is this is just really disaster for them right now when you're losing Rondo and Ingram the way they are and maybe getting off to a really tough start because when we would all debate about whether or not the Lakers were gonna, make the playoffs and everybody thought we were crazy for saying, maybe they don't like role is the whole subplot like you can't get off to a bad start in the Western Conference. You can't recover like you can't in the east. And right now they're facing that kind of a prospect. I'll leave you with this. That of a few whispers there about LeBron James leading Cleveland and maybe it was, you know, he'd lost a little tread off the tires here and kind of kick anymore on the way out. What do you make of these whispers about LeBron and his abilities his talent level. Now. I mean, that's just that's that's the league. I mean, that happens every time I guy heads for the exits. You know, I'm not saying it. You know, the guy is in an incredibly high level and you know still the best player in the game. And I think the other thing we're going to be looking at just all year long is is forget about how the Cavs or the media might see talent level how his peers feed his talent level and who's gonna come join them next summer. That's the number one thing. He's gotta find a way to paint a pretty enough picture in LA to make sure that you know whoever it might be, Anthony Davis, you know, all the other usual suspects that might come next summer. He's gotta finish that job because if he doesn't, it's gonna be a lonely Laker experience. And you know, and again, the west is just so unforgiving that he's got to get that part of the equation done, but they make a deal hasn't do they? I talked to Chris Webber about this last hour. I said, you you gotta. Prevent yourself from overreacting, if you're not playing great or you're on the outside of the playoff bubble and you make a deal? I wouldn't do anything this year unless I got somebody that I thought was going to help me big picture long-term. I don't want you know some aid to come in to help me make the playoffs in where the seventh seed you gotta plan stick with the plan and don't run that risk. Do think that the Lakers make. I would. I mean, I would agree, and I think the list of guys who would check both boxes probably pretty short, which is to say, you know, would be part of the long-term plan, but also some that you do right now. I mean, there's I have no Intel to indicate that they're in on the Jimmy Butler stuff at all. And like you know, that type of player conceivably would be the road you go down because you know, you get an early crack at him as far as a perspective free agent like Paul George situation in Oklahoma City. But yeah, you can't do any bandaids at all of this season and they have a luxury which still amazes me that not only did they get LeBron James, but they got LeBron James coming in the door being very patient and sending the message to them that I don't want you to just go lose assets for the short term gain. The guys that I wonder about in that there is already chatter about is Lonzo you know, because you have teams around the lead who are gonna look at him and say that we could really have. Be part of our young core might be willing to give you something of value in return and you have to gauge that value. I if Rondos gonna play most of the year and lonzo's now he's gonna go down. Then you gotta think that into consideration. What if you said, you know what? We'll give you Lonzo for JJ Rettig straight up. I mean, I would think about it JJ even on the one hand, you know, father time or something to get a look at with JJ's playing great. But you know, you see the way the Sixers had gone away from him a little bit, and you know to help Marquel folks come along. I guess I can't have three guys in the back court who can't shoot. So I mean, it doesn't make sense for seventy Sixers. Right. So we had a, we had a bet the other day I starting the seasonally said, who has more threes this year. Ben Simmons Marquel Foltz and I took mogambo. Crazy. That is crazy. Well, don't don't leave out just for just for kicks and giggles. Did you see the video of land Stevenson the other day when he fired the three from the right corner and did the tree sixty celebration as if he can do with fallen in wasn't even close. It just careened up around. I mean, that's Laker shooting, right? Oh, God, Sam. Thank you. Great. Talk to you again and good luck with the athletic. Thank you, Sam. Amick I, I love his stuff columnist for the athletic used to be with. You might say today? Yes. Bowling by the way. Dan, your boy JJ Redick is off to his best start of his career nineteen points shooting forty, six percent from three. Yeah, but you can't bring in Lonzo ball with Ben Simmons and Markelle Foltz all non-shooters. Yeah, that's that's quite a weapon in the back court. He fit right in though. Yeah, that's the problem. I don't want him to fit in with the back court that can handle, but can't shoot. By the way I'm flipping around yesterday afternoon watching the NFL and I always go to the six hundred channels on direct TV. Just see if there's anything obscure that I might have missed all of a sudden I stumbled upon hawks in the Cavaliers. It started at, I think, six o'clock. I'm going. Oh, I gotta get me some k love and trae young Kevin love is like sixteen points seventeen rebounds, but trae young. When off it has begun the warriors east, I told you. Five feet behind the line. It's happening. It's fun. It was good. Can you do that? It gets real NBA maybe not. Maybe not the cabs have given up. I think over one hundred thirty points twice already in three games. I think they, I think they're giving up about one hundred twenty four points per game. K love is going to have some big numbers here. Going back to the pre cab days with Minnesota betray. Young's fun. Got some bright colored shoes there. Those yellow shoes that he's got. Yes, mclovin. So Sam amick ripta velvety. Why is everyone? What am I missing? All he does a score and shoot like eighty percent from the floor. He I don't think he was ripping him saying he should not be the feature guy on the floor with the Lakers I understand, but he's certainly not part of prom. He's been unbeknownst. I, he's right, but I I want him in limited minutes. Why he just the ball. I don't know if I can count on that all seasonal. I don't. I don't know, but, but you're, you're right. He's not a punchline. He plays hard, which I love. I just, you know, offensively is limited defensively, you love him out there, but I wanna have him as sort of stealth. I'm not featuring javale McGee. He's like a player from twenty five years ago. Right? He does. It have, yeah. Yeah, he's good around four feet three feet in. All right. We'll take a break our best. And worst of the weekend, more phone calls will close up shop. Tell you what's in store tomorrow here on the Dan. Patrick show up to this, hey, there diehards here's some football facts. Even you may not know about the first football game was played in eighteen sixty nine. And in an average game, the ball is typically in play for only about eleven minutes and finally pizza can someone should rates go up during the week of a big game. 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I don't know who to assign blame for this worst. Whoever put Cincinnati on Sunday night, Andy, Dalton, false Owen six on Sunday night and they never competitive Dade flex out the Rams Niners a best way. Wait, you're blaming Sunday nights. Yes, just look at the Bengals or Andy Dolan, but you know what eighty dollars? Like on Sunday night. It's not good. Prime time is not his friend by the way that defense did not have a prayer gets chiefs worth probably worse even to league. Now the best was. Trae young thirty five points. Awesome. All right sheet. No counter best. And worst of the weekend are very good friend of the show and NFL network oats, Melissa stark and see what happened. Handled it like a pro this. She's probably pound for pound toughest NFL reporter right now. Yeah, Milstar got hitting the head. Energy and a lot more going on in the stadium Manzar trickling in since the last time we spoke and yes, you have mentioned it. Oh, okay. Nothing like live television. I'm okay. Moves right on not even phase Kurt Warner took five minutes to get up and yeah, soft soft. My worst of the weekend, unfortunately is the Chris sale thing with the belly button because he doesn't have a belly button ring. He was just messing with reporters to see who would believe it. Yeah, and it was affected. He did well, yeah, he did. Well, I kept thinking if I when I first heard it, I went wait why Chris sale has a belly button ring. In that he went for an infection and that's why he was hospitalized. Can I do another quick Bester? Sure that of all of the people that were thrown out of the game. Lakers rockets one is being drastically undercover d- and that Anthony Keates of the red hot chili peppers was also jetted from the game for fighting in that fight. He was going after rockets players in like staff as they were walking off the court, and they have video of him like, you know, like yelling obscenities and all that stuff and like pushing riots was he suspended from that? Sure. We, their league hasn't come down on that. So the lead singer, the red hot chili peppers. So you're gonna get like suspended from three concert toured somebody. Somebody tweeted that Anthony Keita's got addicted from the Lakers game last night, and he looks like he's wearing a disguise. Well, which is haircut looked like haircut, looks like a wig and he's where he's got like a very dark moustache the I don't like the haircut, this hair strong hair. It's great hair. Well, we had the one that looked a little like MO from the three stooges. Yeah, it might still be a little more. Yeah, that that wasn't. That wasn't necessarily. It's best. Give it away, give it away, give it a win. Now. They got off from the game for fighting fight. It's a good thing. Flee wasn't. There flea wasn't the hell. He wasn't. He didn't hold them back later was supposed to be his LeBron and fleet didn't hold them back. Some flea Flint. He didn't wouldn't a chili. Pepper noted, chill out in a situation like that. No, because they're so hot there. The red hot chili pepper. We could still chilly and chilies not. I mean Chili's by Bisi. I guess what's marketed went out there. So when I pull them out, let them continue. Fine. Thank you. Fled. Flea flicker. Yeah. Almost out of perfect show. You went, you went two hours and fifty minutes that I gave you that house states fourth quarter, and then you gave it back LA LA, LA. Gave it up. Reggie Ella wishes. Miller will join us on the program. I believe Cuyler Murray, Oklahoma quarterback will join us on the program tomorrow paulie Bessemer. So the week that's the weekend, freshman wide receiver for Purdue Rondell more twelve catches one seventy two touchdowns. This was going to go to Texas and produce got him to change his mind and go to Purdue. The other one was Tom Rinaldi's piece on Tyler Trent, the student for the university of Purdue pretty university. The last quote, Tom, Rinaldi asked him to Tyler Trent. How do you see the future? And Tyler chart responded? Well, the immediate future in my mind, Purdue beat Ohio State on Saturday. That's cool. Yeah, it was well done. Trevor in Texas, Trevor best and worst of the weekend. Taking my call Mr. Patrick six foot in doubt. One eighty. Best of the weekend was Doug Marrone benching Blake Bortles after his very pedestrian and just got awful performance and worst, Doug Marrone this long to bench, Blake Bortles. All right. Thanks for the phone call. Trevor. I guess the quarterbacking position is open for business there in Jacksonville. Miss Nicey Cody Kessler come in and get a little bit of run their Nate and Utah joins us. I Nate. Hi, Dan. How are you? Good, sir. What are you have? So best of the weekend, Utah. USC on Saturday night and take him full control of the pack. Twelve south. Worst of the weekend has to be the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday and just chase them GARRETT'S in Scotland, hands, inability to call anything that is remotely intelligent on the road with games on the line. I just thought creativity and clock management was certainly lacking there. Thank you. Nate Caleb in Virginia. Hi, Kayla would you have for me today? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Best of the week is app. Take football being ring for the first time in school history, and the worst of the week is there's a wind storm coming through Virginia and knocking all the fall foilage off the trees. All right. Thank you. Caleb are fully network was in full bloom over the weekend. I took some pictures. Great that you were working for the network up north? Yeah, up in New Hampshire. Got some simple Liege. I just sent one picture of a tree that had orange leaves, and I just put death on it, and I got no response from the dance because that's I was looking at death that that those leaves depressing. 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Ravens/Browns recap, Aaron Rodgers' MVP chances, Drawing A Blank, Brooklyn Nets

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Ravens/Browns recap, Aaron Rodgers' MVP chances, Drawing A Blank, Brooklyn Nets

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The game with cramps came back for a while back and forth fourth quarter and then the game would come down to a justin tucker field goal to finish shape now before we saw a little bit of absolutely everything on the ground in the air. Things that upset knicks betting line. We had it all in the end. It would be the ravens coming out on top with the wind. Here's john harbaugh. After the game with all the things that went on in this game the time you're talking about it that right there i mean if you're on a movie about this the people wouldn't believe it could never happen. Realities is stranger than fiction or whatever that saying is that's kind of what it is here. I mean it's just it's crazy all right well nick. Baker showed up last night. We wondered if he could on the big stage. But lamar was outstanding. He came off. The cove list. Came back out of the locker room in the fourth. Quarter to do this and get this team back in it and get them the win. Who was more impressive last night baker. Mayfield or lamar jackson. Yeah i hate to start the show with the disagreement. But i did not think lamar was outstanding. I i thought that lamar showed again that. He is the most dynamic running quarterback the league has ever seen. But if you went into this football game with serious concerns about the ravens ability to pass the football the sixty one yards. He had up until there was a minute left in the upper three minutes left in the football game when he came back on. The field didn't exactly allay those concerns and for baltimore. Their defense i thought played the worst game. I've seen at play in three years. Now maybe part of the reason. The deepens played so poorly. What's because baker mayfield was cooking and can we please. Finally america put some respect on the man's name. I want to see him. Have a signature. Win has the best first-half any players had in the nfl all season. I'm sorry go ahead please. No i was just waiting for the signature. Gonna go ahead you go you go. Mike was no. I didn't know my microphone was on. Go good okay. So that was last week when he had the best first-half than e players had in the legal ear and then it was. Well i wanna see him in the fourth quarter down to scores. Can we show what baker mayfield did. Because he did make one big mistake. He threw a pick. So how did baker respond after throwing matt pick. Do we have that graphic. Because i think he played perfectly. I think he had three touchdowns to throwing one rushing including a forty seven in drive with less than two minutes remaining to tie the football game then. Justin tucker did justin tucker things in the ravens win but last night. The quarterback on the field without a shadow of a doubt was baker mayfield. Now it's team did not win. But when they were winning thirteen to ten because the deepens we said those wins they won. But he didn't play great. He was outstanding last night. Against the team that nyah lead them in week one and it shows massive growth for him and for the team so to me clearly. Baker was the more impressive quarterback last night totally disagree with unique lamar jackson. Lamar jackson does like this was reminiscent of the two thousand and nineteen lamar jackson. This is the reigning. Mvp we were waiting for him. The flash like this. We were waiting for game where he show his brilliant in his genius on the field. We know why. Lamar jackson isn't throwing the ball and why he's not putting up huge numbers. I've been talking about it all year. That's gregg roman. Now lamar jackson. He missed too big throws he missed one andrew and he missed another to another wide receiver. Too big plays than that. Lamar jackson played the game that we were accustomed to seeing two thousand nineteen. This is what we what we've what we've seen lamar do weakened and week out. It's like watching friday night football. You go to a high school game and there's always one or two players that stand out to you. There's no names on the jerseys. it's like man. Who is this kid. If i'm a scout out there last night skeleton these guys i'm like man baker mayfield ball. Lamar jackson ball. Who are these kids now. Do you really wanna talk about it though. Nick like you just do you try to twist the stats and you try to change the angle. A little bit. But that pick is significant. We seem baker. Mayfield go for over three hundred yards. And we've seen him flash before but ball security his job security yours and mine. We've been talking about. That's the reason why he lost the game so if you wanna crowned him as some type of came back to play well in the loss nate laws because they had the biggest indicator in winning and losing the national football league is turning the ball over and he turned the ball over. He saw that linebacker hit on third row and he stared down and he threw the ball. Anyway that's what baker mayfield does down the reason why they lost. And that's the reason why. I continue to stay table and say look baker mayfield. Not the face of the franchise for the next ten fifteen years until fix that problem. Has he played well. Has he eliminated distractions off the one hundred percent. But he can't do this in the biggest moments in ball right and he's not going to be a guy who throws zero interceptions this season because that players never he did go one hundred and eighty seven pass attempts without an interception but that was a really bad one. But that's the reason they lost ignores what happened in the fourth quarter. That football game after they. Hey they took the yes brandon. I am aware they lost the game. I promise i watched but after that play. They took the lead after that play when the ravens then went down and scored. He drove them down to tidy. Tie the game in a game where. His team scored forty two points. Twenty one in the fourth quarter including a go ahead fourth quarter drive and a gametime fourth quarter drive with one minute remaining to say a third quarter interception is the reason they lost the game and to say lamar who that was not. Mvp lamar mvp. Lamar athlete any athlete. Watching that game. Last night would say. This is one of the best athletes i've ever seen. We know more. And that's the same story line. We know we know he's not gonna throw for three hundred yards. And i'm telling you the reason. The reason why is because of there's no continuity in their offense. Lamar jackson is right down brandon. Last year. They had the same offense and when he won. Mvp you're ready wasn't thrown for three hundred. But he was thrown for over two hundred a game and so last night when he's got eighty yards passing through three and a half quarters and finishes with one sixty that was not the way he won the mvp. He's not going to be three hundred game but he wasn't one sixty game either. Let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question are so you want to highlight baker mayfield. Baker was great. They lost the game. The last the last. I i remember. It's about winning and losing like do we really wanna crown these guys if we do. It's about local. He played well. Then tell me who gets the game ball. Who own cleveland browns. And the cleveland. Browns gets the game ball. Nobody gets the game ball because they lost and all wild wild. Maybe i'm living in a house of mirrors but correct me if i'm wrong wild. When the browns were on a four game winning streak playing windstorms and rainstorms and baker was throwing for one hundred ten yards was the conversation on. This show doesn't matter. They won baker. Gets the game ball doesn't matter or was it. We need to do see him do more. And so like maybe i'm crazy. Maybe it's just it's just been if the browns win. Baker played great. If they lose he played terribly. That's not quite how i remember it. But but you be the newbie. Let me you know. No no let me remind you. Sorry whilst but let me remind you nick. Wh what's the story. The story is wins baker. Mayfield going to throw for over three hundred yards. When is baker. Mayfield going to be the reason why they win. And not the run gown. Kevin landscape where they lost last night. Nick that they they lost last night. Yes. he's done it twice. He's done it twice in the season. Nick he's done it twice in the season. Well the retailers daddy is running the ball and playing defense. Yeah cincinnati window on on a bit cincinnati being on the jacksonville jaguars. So we want to see him. This is again. The ball baltimore ravens. So i'm reminding you what would a couple of weeks ago again he lost. Do a win. you lost. Nobody's going to remember this next year. Nobody's gonna remember them playing lights out against the baltimore ravens because he lost the game. We have hours upon hours to continue to discuss and we will. I promise you wild sketchy the year but we got to switch gears to talk about the mvp award. Can aaron rodgers still steal it away from patrick mahomes justice. Dress nick out a little bit more this morning. That's next this is first things first. We're birthing listeners. Issue boy shea. Sharp co host of f ones undisputed. I wanted to tell you about my new. Podcast club chez chez. We always do something before something. Each week i sat down with a guest for drinking conversation and his host. And proprietor clubs chez chez. I've welcome in esteem. Guests such as snoop dogg floyd mayweather lavar ball isaiah. Thomas just mentioned a few with. I'm talking to an athlete musician and actor or lifelong fan club. Shea is the place where people share inspiring and motivational stories about their journeys to prominence. The new episode drops every monday on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcast so scrappy club shade now and make sure you never miss a new episode now back the first things first. Let's talk some green bay packers now. It's great year for these guys. Matt leflore could be coach of the year. His team is now the nfc's topsy. Aaron rodgers could be in vp. It was nearly flawless on sunday. And the remaining schedule. Panthers titans bears while it's not terrifying with learn os. Just how well. His quarterback is playing right. Now take a listen to what he had to say. I think anytime you have just a group of players like we have especially our quarterback A guy of his caliber dot my mind is should be the front runner for the mvp. I mean he just does. It consists of every time we go out on field. It gives you a lot of confidence that you're gonna come out with. A victory. being said is still the favorite brandon. Homes is still the favourite of header rogers and the mvp but brandon. Is the door still open for rogers to come in and st oldest away from patrick mahomes. Is it open. it's wide open. It's fifty fifty at this point. Look let me speak. Nick rights language. Okay so look a couple of weeks ago our reveal this graph just to highlight a few things that i was trying to talk about in patrick mahomes i appreciate you responded to me last week. Look i have a job to do. I love you buddy. you're phenomenal. You can potentially go down as the greatest quarterback of all time but right now this is fifty fifty. So let's look at this graph the graph that idea. Let's take a look so if you look at this i grab. This is what i said. You know russell wilson. Russell wilson was lee in a way. And then nick. This is critical critical information. Russell wilson just start throwing pig out there. Pick after picking up the inter arizona game where he threw multiple pigs and one game out so now you had to take him from being in front of the jet ski to being on a two and if you know anything about being on the two it's really wild back there at any moment you can take off. So that was russell. Wilson patrick mahomes lee but now you have air rogers. That has not taken over to jetski because what what. What's russell wilson. Did he through multiple pigs. You can't lead in being in front of the jet ski if you throw three picks a one game and give up the longest second nfl history. Patrick mahomes we'll tell you that you can't do it. And then you have all dairy henry sitting right there while it's and i know you love. They were dare again reset it there. If he finishes with two thousand your e should be the mvp and then you have josh allen big ben just sitting out there seeing guys wait for me. This is house chris. Bearing wild take on this. Because i feel badly brandon and i yelled at each other in the first segment. Old buddy favor wraps gallion. Kevin wilde's didn't even get to give his take so i'm gonna pause in categorize. You go please. No you know why. You're pausing yours. Because i agree with you your propaganda your change propaganda that is infected. My son has now infected. Me i think is obviously the mvp. And i actually think it's unfair nick that he should even have a bigger lead. But i think he gets penalized because it changes so good because travis kelsey is might be offensive player of the year because eric enemy and andy reid our jeans because tyreek hill is the fastest player in the nfl. And doing backwards. I think it all hurts. Patrick mahomes but what brandon. You talked about the thirty yard sack. And the three interceptions we watch. I gave a guy. This guy is the best even though he's doing making mistakes they're still impressive. Mistakes like the thirty yard. Wow isn't president. I'm gonna argue that. The thirty yards actually actually helped his case is oh doing things. I've never seen him. Avoid that common. So nick. I appreciate you. Pass the ball here. But i'm gonna bassett right back to you. I think mahomes obviously the mvp. Nick so i m accident nick nick yeah go go ahead go ahead go ahead. 'cause i got lost with the graphic i just. I just did what you did. Right when russell wilson when he lost the mvp race right when he threw it three three weeks versus the zona cardinals. That's that's all i did. I laid that up for you. Patrick mahomes he just threw three. That's why have aaron rodgers now. Lena so i was really your take a couple of weeks ago no i get it and by the way i'm not even a strong as wilde's that mahomes is clearly the mvp right now with three weeks left. I think mahomes is the leader. I think brandon's skis wrong. I think mahomes is leader. But i think it is close because as people know because of my just lifelong commitment to take integrity and the fact that i really just used this television show as vehicle to audition various leagues to actually get votes. I so clearly deserve eyelash. Ear refused to lebron was the nba's mvp because the number said it had to be honest. So i take this very seriously. Even though it's a make believe vote that no one will give me so when you look at the numbers. Completion percentage yards per attempt and turnovers. They are dead. Even mahomes is killing him in yards and rogers is ahead substantially touchdowns and interceptions. Both teams are number one in their respective conferences. Granted the packers have three losses to the chiefs one. So why do i have mahomes ahead instead of it. Being a coin flip it is because of that same thing about the multiple turnovers but the important qualifier. Is this when russell. Wilson atas multiple turnover game. He wasn't to overcome it. The packers have three losses this year. Two of those losses. Aaron rodgers has turned the ball over multiple times to colty threw a pick and he fumbled in the tampa game. That game turned on his two mistakes. Mahomes has one bad game this year. And in that game he led the chiefs to a twenty point third quarter and a twenty point lead in route to a comeback victory so the multiple russell wilson had those turnovers back when he was still in the conversation against arizona but then they had won the game in overtime instead of him. Throwing the pick to lose the game in overtime. It wouldn't have hurt him as much right now. The deciding factor to me. Is this both rogers. In mahomes have had one game they would really really want back. The tampa game for rodgers. The miami game for mahomes mahomes was able to after having a horrific first quarter with toothpicks and a thirty yard sack. Still throw for nearly four hundred yards two touchdowns team to victory once rodgers through those two first quarter picks. He and his team folded. Would they score in that game. Ten points so to me. That's the distinguishing point. But mahomes has no nationally. Televised games left gina. Rodgers has carolina and then sunday night football against the titans a terrible past defense on national. Tv rodgers could still win it but despite the three picks hiding mahomes is the leader by a hair right now yeah and then they have chicago the packers after that so another chance him as well all right back to last night's game now lamar baker baker lamar worn fingle. Take your pick both played outstanding only one winter though. We got this game for you next first things. First holiday season means stocking up on some essentials like decorations and an ugly sweater with the bank of america. Cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent cashback on online shopping. 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Mvp ended up with three total touchdowns in about three hundred awesome plays brandon. Lamar jackson's performance last night was blank retro ravens. I mean we gotta go way back to last year. This is how he won the mvp. Nick doesn't think he played well. I think he played amazing. I thought he was a magician in the pocket elusive athletic. He was the best player on the field. We know why he's not throwing for three hundred yards. Do we want to continue to ignore that conversation that this office is just not built for god to throw the ball. No chemistry no continuity we can go back to colin kaepernick and gregg roman and san francisco. He came out and then what happened a year after that in the year after that his numbers started to decreased. That's the reason why that lamar jackson missed too. Big plays last night absolutely but this guy was the best player on the field last night. This is retro ravens going back to last year so i thought it was story and by that i mean this is you read you know. Great fables entails. You know what the story very rarely is. Your hero has nothing but success. In great things happen from beginning middle and end books over no how storybooks go struggles bad times moments apparel. And then when you think all lost and trace mcsorley is out there trying to run a two minute drill. Your hero comes out from the back and has his best moment yet. I e brandon's right. I didn't think lamar was very good for the first fifty seven minutes of this game but that play right there saved the game and then after baker drove back down the field. Lamar made two very good place to get justin tucker and field goal range so to me. It was a storybook finish for the reigning league. Mvp wilde's yeah. I went with captain solely like you can be happy with the final result in a little bit. Stressed out about how you got there. Look lamar levin completions marketers. Call five balls. This was a huge play. But he's lamar's scribble for twenty four yards until you find somebody so i know you're going to be like bringing like wild. That's what makes him so. Dynamic totally agree but like captains totally landed the plane in the hudson river. And everyone's like great job. And i think after the dust settles like was that really that grazed fields if we got some flaws in the system here i like lombardo catherine what love is. It's the pot solely slander baker. Mayfield guys threw for three hundred forty three yards and two touchdowns ran went into but he also had a costly pick in the third quarter with the browns trying to get back in the game brandon baker mayfield's performance last night was blank ascending. Nick may be todd which which angle on take right now. But he's ascending. That's the that's the truth. Look before the game leading up to the game. He handled the media. Welder was no bulletin board material. That's what we want to see out of baker mayfield. He's been doing all year. Been handling the media better in the game. He had his demeanor on. The sideline was amazing. He knew he was in the heavyweight heavyweight and he handled it like a champ and then after the game i loved his demeanor with immediate again. Like baker. Mayfield is ascending. But the reason why he hasn't arrived because he lost the game and he threw a pick that cost his team the game so he is ascending. I like what i'm saying. But he needs to continue to do it. Listen you guys thrown winning picks. He's now thrown one big in his last two hundred and five pass attempts. Obviously you can't win that way except for the fact every other quarterback in the league would love to do that because they've thrown more but my injuries is endorsed and i say endorsement because even brandon. Marshall begrudgingly is kind of endorsing him. But also endorsed because you know. I was checking out baker mayfield's list of endorsements. You know what's not on there any type of beverage so it's like. Hey who's gatorade. God is an endorser these days they used to have. Eli and peyton. Manning quarterback endorser. It's matt ryan matt ryan old and busted talking about guys. You don't wanna have throw throw picks matt ryan threw two picks in the final two minutes. Lose so i think. Baker mayfield could have a new endorsement coming up. And i know what you're gonna say. Time jinnah only likes. Jenna only likes athlete. Endorsements if like forest lamp in the lamp which e ali loved. when. I know you're gonna say that and i'm gonna say guys. You're being unfair. Nez not anti endorsement. She just has bits. Reallocate toured for baker. Mayfield puts you like so much. I think she might actually endorse bakers endorsement their endorsements with all his other interest too much sugar zero. Chances eli progenitor. yeah. I knew it. I also went commercial. Wanted to see a christmas commercial from baker. Because he was doing that thanksgiving turkey commercial after thanksgiving. I thought we had the christmas commercial ready. But here's the thing. Talk real thing. That was just a commercial. I think the browns should be super super happy. You took it their losses jenna. They lost scored six points. Loss to baltimore. Scored seven points loss to the steelers. This word six points loss to the raiders scored forty two points so i think the ascension of baker does get them another commercial job. Guys i have no issue with the commercials. They're actually funny except the thanksgiving one. That one didn't hit on peterson. Did you guys. Doug peterson finally came. Down named jalen hurts his starting quarterback for sunday's game in arizona. He said quote after going through the film. I'm going to continue with jalen this week somehow. Doug peterson needed to go through film to come to that conclusion. So brandon te. Doug peterson aiming hurts. The starter is blank. Yeah i'm gonna be quick here. This one is dumb with three. You look we knew. He was going to be a starter. He elevated his entire team. He gave you the spark that you ask for. I need a spark. I need a spark again. You a spark in the first thing aftermath after the game is. I don't know if we're going to go back to him. More wins please. This is dumb with three us nick. Yeah i'm going with a different perspective. And i mean that literally your perspective of seeing the game because if you watched this press conference. Doug peterson said after watching the game. Tape and this is something you hear from coaches all the time after a game i gotta go watch the game and now i'm going to be fair i've only ever watched one. Nfl game from the sidelines. And i don't quite remember vividly. Maybe you just from the sidelines are seeing something totally different than all of us are seeing watching on television. How you guys are on the field. What color is my team's jerseys. Did we score. Did we give up a safety. Who knows got to watch the film because folks that were on the sideline watch. This game was like oh jalen the starter but doug peterson needed a different perspective. He needed actually watch the tape and he was like. Oh jail the starter. So i'm glad he got there eventually. Wild and maybe doug. Peterson should watch all the games. Like on a four second delay on video and he can maybe make some better in game adjustments accordingly because he needed to watch the game tape to figure out the jail the start. I went with methodical. I guess he's trying to score points. Like yeah. I watched the game tape in now. Jalen obviously the starter so jenna. I just felt like this was the most obvious thing. And i i honestly i was felt like being to mean to. Doug peterson trying to be nicer. So methodical there i did. Part of my virus is the bomber is. We're not gonna have any more of those awkward moments in press conferences. Now that he named jalen hurts. But we will be okay onto houston texans head coach texas in general manager. Texas needs some winds and some new life. They do have a franchise quarterback though and owner callum mcnair is reportedly consulting with said quarterback deshaun watson on possible head coach candidates to fill the opening. Franson the texans consulting with the shawn watson on their next head. Coach is blank. Why jenna this is the most important player on the field. Is the quarterback. Most important piece on a team is the quarterback whether you like it or not so getting his perspective. It doesn't have that he doesn't have to have the ultimate say or you know a real decision in that matter You know when it comes to the decision but he should get his opinion. This means a lot. This relation relationship between quarterback offense coordinator and head. Coach is extremely important. If it's not properly ally then you're not going to win any games. This is why. Why agree with you brandon. And i wonder what the decision making process for mcnair was like. Well i could talk to shawn watson. The highest paid player in the history of my franchise best quarterback franchise featuring my franchise or knocking on my office door. Is this homeless. Man's joel osteen jack. Easterby who seems to all of a sudden he knows how to run a football team. You should i talk to. I'm glad he went with door neighborhood. My injuries shaves south. It's very simple hired as your head coach. Hire john dorsey general manager. John dorsey helped build the chiefs into what they are. Now he's available. Eric has learned underly. Andy reid for probably two years longer than he needed to. he'll be available. You all of you will go from bill. O'brien the head. Coach and bill o'brien. Gm to a real live head coach and a real live gm. Just try to be the chief south. That's my recommendation. Okay well they try and patriots than it didn't work. Here's a take nick. I'm not to go to mother okay. You got one super bowl. Settle don't need to cheat go. Let's be honest catanon. Play that back. I couldn't hear an over over the the the jingle jangle so get airbnb. Wants to go the texans in texas. Maybe if the gm comes with them. It'll be a little bit different. Nick but america enemy. I think it's a tyrod situation. You have multiple teams. So i think i just sit back. Maybe the texans. Maybe i don't like all these news reports coming out of there. We're thinking about the shawn watson. The guy is very loyal. So i wanna play the quote of him talking about bill. O'brien so it gives them a lot of power. But i don't. I wonder how much of this is. Lip service paid to deshaun watson because he obviously wanted to keep bill. O'brien at least last year. Take a listen. Yes no doubt i doubt. But he's no doubt. I love may say whatever you want to say do other media on. The writing is on a quarterback. Scully my heart is you can get on my ten percents. I'm not step on that field. So whatever i'm always be the men play wilde's and bill o'brien paid for by trading deondraye hopkins forum waiting and by the way. I don't know if you literally heard the jingle jangle wild was talking about. But that was all the asterisks banging together in his pocket not championship rings for the rain. Lines have one to asterisk via us with the game of the year last night. Ravens grounds in about a thousand storylines vin. And we'll have that for you next first things first wild back here talking nba. Let's talk to brooklyn now. Kyrie irving and kevin durant getting on the same page. This preseason last week. I read said carney said he's not talking to the media this season and was subsequently fine and then all of a sudden kyrie found some time to talk to the media. I wonder what changed your sky with more. have in disappointing seasons. The last few years hasn't necessarily been the best selection that i wanted to put out. But you know it's a different show. It's a different stage and it's a new beginning in terms of what we're moving building boom four with the peace. We have here and that includes seven eleven. So get to know us. Let's go. let's go joining us now. We're sorry good morning. There's a lot here with these two guys the team. There's the hype but let's start with this dual. What's more likely. Do you think for cain kyri in the nets this season in nba title. Or let's call it or disaster. Well jenner if the question was an nba finals appearance or disaster. I would go with the nba finals appears. I do think this nets team can be the second best team in the league. They're just. I don't see them. Beating the lakers. I think the lakers superior. Now i'd be foolish to sit here and say there's not a reasonable chance of disaster with kyrie's history of injuries with his history of locker room issues with teammates with his history of making bazaar and odd comments There certainly a chance of disaster. Heck now that he thinks he's kareem abdul-jabbar wants to post up eight times a game. You have to leave. Open the door for disaster. However i heard three things yesterday. That made me optimistic about this nets team. Having success one kyri did speak to the ponds and the media and he was calm and relaxed and comfortable number two. He took back his statement from months ago about the nets not needing head coach. And he gave steve nash the respect. He deserves number three when he unveiled the new nickname. Seven eleven. I like that nickname even though it's just kind of a glorified data but still it's a great nickname really notice corre- is second. Okay durant number. Seven is first nets fans half the hope that means we understands the second order number one number two so look. I'm gonna say that next. Have a better chance of being eastern conference champions. Then they do have a disaster one very interesting take. It's also not the question. The question is titled not eastern conference title in gay title or disaster. If i think we think it's also important fine disaster. Would you agree that that anything short of a conference finals appearance would be a disaster. If they have the same playoff run. The clippers did last year. That would be a disaster for this team right. If they're in the second round and out giving the expectations. Because i i think that would be a disaster for them. I go ahead and give him. I and i'll say quickly. I think it would obviously be a disappointment but disaster depends on how it is if it is you know if they finish losing in the second round because kyrie's caused problems or durant and kyrie along. That's the design. It's all different. But if they you know they could lose in a way where in the next next year. You're optimistic and think okay just took a year to get it together. They'll do that. So so here's my real concern for the nets. I think they are going to be very very similar. To last year's maps. And absolutely unstoppable offense. That can't stop anybody on the other end. And when you look at east milwaukee a great defense boston in philly very very good defenses. Think toronto is gonna take a step back but they were the number two defensive and basketball last year miami. A very good defense. By the way i listed five teams plus the nets. Two of those teams forgive brown to are going out in round one. That's just the math. And so i think the defense is going to be a work in progress at best which brandon put such a massive weight on the shoulders of kevin durant. Now i think kevin durant can walk back into the league and be the second best player in basketball. I think i need to see it. But i think he can. But as we've talked about being a great player and then there's also the leadership part katie can be a great leader but he hasn't had to be a leader in nearly five years. He was never the leader in golden state because that wasn't his role so he's got to be the leader. He's probably got to be their best defensive player as well as their best player. And he's coming off an achilles. It's just a massive weight on durant shoulders brandon going into this year so my answer would be. It's more likely they don't make conference finals. Then they win the nba title. Why i have them winning the title this year. So the answer for me is an eight title because of their chemistry now. A lot of people don't understand it. It's weird it's one of those things where you see a couple of it's like man. Why are they together. It just seemed like the i couple and it just works for them. It works for these guys. Go back to everything you talked about kris one of the things that katie said it was look. We agreed on two three posts ups and you have to check with me. He established who is lee in this thing from the beginning so i love to hear that. Let's not forget how prolific both of these guys were before the down and also before they got hurt. These are two of the most prolific scores in nba history. The game is about scorned basketball right. Now there's only two or three teams. That really played good defense. You get the lakers. You can throw out the heat. Maybe put it the milwaukee bucks and maybe maybe one other team. But there's this is not about defenses about offense for those reasons. I'm going with nba title. I want to show you guys this as well just to double down on this point. Twenty five points per game forty five percent from the field thirty five percent from three eighty five percent from the line. This is the list right. Here that's kevin durant kevin durant kevin kevin durant. There's nobody else on his list. This is probably the best scored and league has ever seen. He'll he'll take them to the title one hundred percent yeah. It's a bold claim. I'm going to give them a year with the condense schedule. Bussard and i think steve nash is going to limit. Both kyri and durant's minute i think you made a lot of good points. And one point the fact that they named themselves seven eleven because kyri has put himself in the second position because that was the order of sort of usage rate rather than just has a good range to it. I'm gonna give you a chance here to walk that back and acknowledged that he's just making it any brand statement of eight seven eleven. We're always open more so than it is a a a Wink towards injury plan for the brooklyn nets this year. Go ahead resort. I must admit if the name was eleven seven He probably would go with eleven seven. I get you on that. But i do think that he has a respect and i know he restrict. You can't help. But respect. Lebron james okay. However i think kyrie has more of a respect for kevin durant game. I might be wrong. But i think more respect for kevin durant skills. Then he had for lebron's. I think he looks at duran as i mean. This dude is seven feet tall wildly as as eleven to say he's arguably the best score we've ever seen looking what he can do. And where's lebron. Obviously was tremendously skilled. Or is i think you can also say enquiries mind well he's so big to in fast athletic whereas the ran is strictly just straight up skill and i think risk huge respect for that. So i said that bodes well for their chemistry. Yes us play little interrupt guys. Change harding joined rockets. Practice on monday. Finally still reportedly is pushing for a trade unmoved on interested in appearing with john. Wall back to you. You win around james harden being on the rockets when the season starts in on this unless philadelphia decided they want to trade ben simmons before the season which is not going to happen hard. We'll be a rocket if i'm houston. Look i'm saying let let's get james in here. Let him see how good john wall wall is not as good as westbrook but he is a more skilled player. I think hardwood recognize respect that. Let's let him see boogie. Cousins got something to prove and actually looks. You know the few preseason games like you still got his skills about him heir gordon. Pj talk like this team. Has tally is just a matter of bringing together. So i am given that a chance to work with james harden and even if harder dozen eventually buy it and say you know what. I'm cool staying here in houston. All it will do is up his trade value your ability to get more for if he's a good soldier. Yeah i don't think i think. Even if john wall comes back the best version of john wall we've ever seen. I still don't think harden is changing his opinion on wanting to get out of houston but i also think he starts the season in. Houston you saw the report yesterday. Houston wants been simmons and three first round picks. I think this is going to get done for. Ben simmons one first round pick and picks while. I think that's how this thing's going to happen. But i don't think it's going to happen in the next week. The nba season starts one week from today. So i don't think it happens in the next week i think so. He starts the season as a rocket. But he's certainly does not make it to the deadline as rocket. I'm pushing for their short shorts when the season starts let's get to our top story. You couldn't ask for more out of a monday night game. Let's talk about where baker and the browns. Now stand after this one first things first. It's next starred as always thank you. It's the twenty twenty football championship. The aviators that's wild team takes on the generals for the title tonight seven eastern only on f s one and fox sports app. We learn more and more about single day. Check it out all right time now for a prime performance sponsored by whole foods market your to all things holiday and everything else. Let me just say talking to monday night. Thriller in cleveland ravens. Browns lamar versus baker. This one had everything three touchdowns and an incredible ground game from lamar three touchdowns and a great passing performance from baker. Any lamar left came back with cramps. It came down to a last second. Justin tucker field goal for the win. Literally this game at everything ravens take it. They get the win there now. Eight and five in very much still in this playoff on tears head coach john harbaugh after the wing with all the things that went on in this game. The timing like you're talking about that right there. I mean if you're on a movie about this people wouldn't believe it they would say it could never happen. You realities is stranger than fiction. Or whatever they're saying is that's kind of what is here. I mean it's just it's crazy all right so next let me ask you who had the more impressive night that guy right there baker mayfield war lamar jackson to me. It's very very clear that was the best player on the field last night. I thought lamar showed once again that he is the greatest with respect to michael vick who everyone knows how much i adore. Lamar is going to go down in history as the greatest rushing threat ever the quarterback position and last night. The browns had no answers for him there but in the first three and a half quarters before he came back from the locker room his passing game was one of the worst. He's had all year in a year where he hasn't been good passing the football. He had six completions for eighty yards. And i three and a half quarters. And i know he only eleven tenths but two of those attempts were on consecutive plays when the game was still in the balance guys running wide open and he just missed them particularly the second of the two. I think it was mark andrews for a touchdown just missed him then lamar. When he came back was perfect. He made the absolute winning play on fourth and five with the game on the line and then when they got the ball back he made the right place to set up the justin tucker field goal. So it's not like lamar was bad but throwing the football. I thought he was really shaky in the for until the very and baker on the other hand against a team that they started the year against and got absolutely destroyed by carved them up all game and made one mistake snapping his streak of one hundred eighty seven attempts without an interception the longest streak in the nfl at that point. How did he respond to that. With three fourth quarter touchdowns including go ahead touchdown. And a game tying touchdown with a minute left argued that he scored with a minute left. That actually left the ravens too much time scored to fast only took him. Forty-seven so the question to me brandon surrounding the browns all year long has been. How good is baker going to be. We know the defense has a great pass rush. We know they have a great rushing attack. How good can baker and last night. I thought he was extraordinary. Against what is supposed to be an excellent defense. And so i thought baker was far and away the most impressive guy on the field last night. Yeah i thought both both of those guys were impressive. Both both of those. Those guys were phenomenal. They just got it done differently. Lamar jackson got it. Done on the ground baker mayfield. Got it done through the air Baker mayfield leading up to the game. I thought he did a phenomenal job. Not create any distractions any bulletin board materials. He's been doing that all year. Trending in the right direction. During a game. I thought his poise his demeanor. His moxie was was right there where it needed to be. I mean it was. It was off the charts. He played well after the game. His demeanor his leadership. How he handled the press conference phenomenal job but to answer the question. It's really lamar jackson. This guy won. Mvp during the way he did it last night. I mean that's what we saw. We saw retro lamar jackson. We haven't seen all year for him to literally do whatever he wanted there. We know why. Lamar jackson isn't putting up two hundred three hundred yards. We've been talking about it all years gregg. Roman you go back and you can study. Gregg roman and colin kaepernick. Colin kaepernick took his team all the way to the super bowl. And what happened after how to call and cabinet go from one of the best football players on the field in the league one in the faces of the nfl. Every brain wants to sign him to being out on on the forty niners with. I mean san francisco. How because greg roman wasn't able to develop the passing game now. Was there question marks around this kid coming in to the nfl one hundred percent but this kid can absolutely get it done. They just need the tweaks on things when it comes to their passing game. That's what they need to do. Now look coming down to the end Both of those guys stood up and made the plays they need it. But when you look at it. If i'm sitting in his locker room today and i'm breaking down film i'm looking at all the baltimore ravens. A defense like you guys gave up. How many points like this is a defense. That's supposed to be one of the better defenses in the national football league. They haven't shown up in the last six seven weeks and then from in the cleveland browns locker room. And i'm sitting in those meetings. I'm looking at him. Like look defense. Defensively i'm not hiring you guys because you guys gave up forty seven points. That's a problem. And then you look at the offense aside kevin's fans. He did a phenomenal job. Like this due to super creative and you really have to nitpick on why they didn't get the job done and if you really wanna talk about it is that pick. They ran the ball well but the biggest question mark around offense last night was him making this terrible throw. This was terrible and we can talk about all baker. Mayfield all we want. How great of a job. He did throughout the entire game what he did after this. But it comes down to these moments in games. These games are decided by two or three points. That's what these games are decided by in the national football league. You can't make these mistakes in critical moments so this is the reason why they lost game a big a big reason. Why our branding. I want to go back to one thing. You said there that the ravens need to tweak their passing game well how much of it is a tweak and how much of it is crumbled up in. Throw it away. Lamar completed eleven passes and grit. He was out of the game for a little while. So we'll take that time out but like it's just ten more passes than jarvis landry had and even the plays that were super successful. There was an element of of play breakdown with him. Making something happened so when he had that big big past mark andrews and mark andrews got open the broadcast all. Here's a safety valve is. Here's a security blanket. He held the ball scramble for twenty four yards. According to nfl next gen stats to me. I know they end up working. But it still gives me pause to say like this is our plan and it's a little bit like captain sully. I'm not this is not captain solely slander neck. I would never do that. Moslem for bowen captain where. He's only lands the plane in hudson river. You look at you say wow amazing performance but at the same time like ha not ideal not the ideal plan of how we wanted to attack the flight. I think it's in so lamar deserves all the credit. But there's an element of like emergency scramble in stress in the game. That doesn't make me feel like mvp's and makes me feel like the ravens are winning games. Despite or inspite of greg romans playcalling and lamar jackson. Making things happen on his own. Yeah i like the pill back the layers. i don't like to just have these conversations in a vacuum. I want to know why. Lamar jackson is the way he is. I want to know why. Baker mayfield is. The way is so when you look at lamar jackson if you want to figure out like you know if this team is committed to throwing a ball if they're good at throwing the ball look at first down there number one in the league at running the ball on first down now. Let's look at this game. What did they open up the game with right like gregg. Roman hairs statement talking about it internally. They've had some tough discussions in that locker room about what this identity means to be. So they here and guess what. They opened up this game with a pass but went counter. Pass a flea flicker. That's what they did. No not a stretch run. Streit's boot right keep right. Throw heavens crossers someone in the flat someone on an eighteen year. They didn't do that. They didn't go fundamentals. They didn't go double stake dragging on the backside. They didn't do that. They didn't go double go. Just take a shot at the temple. What they did is they came out with a flea flicker. That's what gregg roman did so. To answer your question. They need to crumble it up. And throw it out and i get that toilets. There were a few plays that. I assume gregg roman gold that i've mentioned earlier. We're guys were running wide open. And he did go past. Lamar missed like some of this has to be and i. I love lamar. Some of this has to be that he has not evolved as a passer quite to the degree. I think most of us myself included thought he would after his mvp season and his mvp season. He was obviously the super dynamic dual threat. But he's still through for thirty five touchdowns and over two hundred yards per game. That's not happening so far this year. But i want to circle back to baker. The question before you go to bigger question before you go to baker. Let me ask you a question. Really quick shooter get better at shooting the ball. He if he doesn't shoot the ball. No no okay. Does the same thing with lamar jackson. He threw sixteen times yesterday. He a quarterback needs to get in a rhythm. you can't call a quarterback. Hey let's throw the ball now we've been running all quarter and we expect you to win it with your arm. You gotta develop this in practice and you gotta develop this in. Gains sooner can get better sooner ball. If he doesn't shoot pazar get better off. He doesn't throw the ball. That that's fair. But i guess i would wonder if in practices if the shooter is missing a lot of open shots if that's why. The coach is not drawing a place for him to shoot a bunch of shots the practices i don't know but if lamar's just cutting them up dissecting them with precision and they are still running just this offense then obviously. It's a major gregg. Roman problem. But i do want to say something about baker. The questions surrounding baker as of nine days ago was. How are you going to do against the better teams. And how are you going to do with the defense doesn't carry you and against tennessee. He had the best half of football. Any quarterback has had mystically against any team year in beating a really good titans team and last night even though they didn't get the win. His team scored forty two points. He had three fourth quarter touchdowns by the way the second time this year. He's at three fourth quarter touchdowns to either tie or take the lead in the final two minutes. The only quarterback able conversation him in position. That and so i just feel like was announced in the loss back station. They know you lost the game. You lost the game conversation. Nine days ago when they played against the tennessee. Titans worse if you win the game number one throw for over two hundred fifty yards. We will put respect on your name. There's two big things you need to get a win. We also highlighted that. He's going against the twenty eighth rate passing. Defense and the thirty first ringwald quarterback of course. He's opposed through that he didn't get them win. We can respect them all we want. He played well but he didn't get the win. That was the conversation nine days ago. You're right you're right. I think if you're round missed out winfield better this morning with this loss than if they had won the game ten to seven because of what baker shows.

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Redskins-Bears Preview

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Redskins-Bears Preview

"You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show now. Here's Kevin Okay It's Game Day to day. the REDSKINS got to Primetime Games this year. Tonight is one of them the other one will come in October at Minnesota against the Vikings so to NFC see north prime time games this one at home where the redskins are two in sixteen since Fedex field opened in nineteen ninety seven on Monday night football ball but there is this they beat the bears the last seven times they face them another one of those two things means much at all Erin sear. I'm here a get to my redskins win. If coming up we'll go through the NFL Sunday it was actually very nice Erin to sit back and be able to watch the NFL fell without having to focus on one team and it was a good nfl Sunday. There were a lot of exciting games and certainly no more excitement than in Tampa EMPA- Yesterday were Daniel Jones started his hall of fame career for the giants with a massive comeback against the buccaneers down eighteen in in the giants rallied for thirty to thirty one lead he threw for three thirty six threw for two touchdowns ran for two touchdowns and all of New York is excited about the Daniel. You'll Jones era which is underway so we'll have time to get to that by the way just as quick. FYI I love you on social media yesterday were suggesting that this was another example of the redskins blowing it that they should have taken Daniel Jones. They couldn't take Daniel Jones Daniel Jones when it number six overall the redskins had the number fifteen pick in the first round he was gone. He was off the board. He was not not an option now. A lot of the reporting since that draft has sort of revealed that there were people in the redskins organization Zeh Shen that were big Daniel Jones fans. I personally heard that Jay gruden liked them a lot. that Kyle Smith liked him a lot but the owner didn't like income is much the owner liked Haskins. That's who we wanted but they're you know there's been a lot of reporting over the months that the reason the giants took him at number six overall as they were fearful full the redskins would take him before their second first round pick came up which I think was what at seventeen something like that that the giants had and so that's why they took him so early in remember. Dave Gentlemen got skewered for it he was lit up by media and fans alike however in a lot of the reporting since they and I'm trying to think it may have been Lockenfora it could have been in Albert breer story Jones during the preseason when Jones Jones was playing very well but essentially the the story that I can't remember who wrote and can't remember when it was written essentially revealed that the NFL people apple you know teams scouts general managers they all like Daniel Jones a lot and none of them thought that the giants were reaching at number six overall even though the New York media crushed gentleman and a lot of people here in Washington obviously a lot of players on the team Landon in Collin saying that you know it was a big mistake day. Dwayne Haskins himself suggesting that the league done messed up by taking Jones before him and then you had you know Haskins from this week when Daniel Jones was named starter when he said Sheesh on twitter and we gave you the definition of Sheesh. It's informal. It's an exclamation used to express disbelief or exasperation. I would say a lot of people in Washington Ashington and on that Franchise Landon Collins Join Haskins and others are probably in disbelief. I bet you Jay Gruden isn't though bet you Jay. GRUDEN and Kyle Smith are not shocked at the results of Daniel Jones had but anyway that's not important now. Daniel Jones didn't go into the hall of fame last night and Dwayne haskins versus. Daniel Jones is far from being decided. We have many many hopefully many more years for that to get figured out getting to Redskins bears here in a moment I did want to just mention real quickly something that Aaron and I were talking about before the show started and that is the ravens chiefs the game and the Ravens getting very aggressive in the game yesterday. They went four four four pounds in the game even with some bad field position they they attempted three two point. Conversions didn't make any of them yesterday. There were a couple of three a two point conversions attempted that really didn't make any sense and less of course you've got some Geek from pro football focus now sitting in your front office and maybe even up in the booth saying you know harbaugh. Hey coach you gotta go for to- right right air and then John Afterwards is asked to explain all the two point conversions and he really can't explain it but this is the what he said because you know he is John Harbaugh and by the way a great coach Great Organization but if you really can't explain it you you just get pound your fist on the table and you just say it in the best positive way you can just because most people will just sit there and nod their heads and say oh. No we get it now. Coach you're right. Here's how John Harbach explained going for two three different times including when they were down eleven eleven in the fourth quarter the point scores main points as we could analytically. I just tell you I don't remember the situation next numbers for which one was what but everyone of those were clear analytic decisions to go for two so and we we had a mindset that we're gonNA come in and we're GONNA try. Scorers main points good so we try to do you know and I know yeah. I know we all felt the same way the Mar- felt the same way we all did. We're and we're we're GONNA. Keep playing just for the record so when you write your article just understand that we'll disagree with your criticism. you know we're going after and that's where we're play all year discovered in. Missouri no no absolutely not. I guess they we'll place Gary Mike. I do like John Harvey. I think he's a very good coach. I think he's tough minded. I think it's always been an organization. That's done it right. They've done it in a physical way in terms of their on on field personality and they've won you know over the years they've been very smart management in one of the one of the real pushes here recently and they're not the only team is to bring in a lot of geeky analytics. You know young people to tell you when to go for two when not to go for two and you know five thirty eight dot com is put together the whole list of Wendy go for two and when not to go for two you and it's based on a lot of things it's based on a certain percentage of making two point conversions and and and a lot goes into that in John Harbaugh couldn't explain to you why he went for to so many times which is why he just aired on the side of we're just going to be aggressive. We can head to come in here and score as many points as possible. Remember when you missed two point conversion you've missed out on an opportunity to add a point at about a ninety five percent clip like it's a ninety five percent chance of making and actually with Justin Tucker Doc. It's nearly a hundred percent that you're going to make an additional point over three yesterday. By the way this this analytics based approach aggressive approach they had not yet in the first two games attempted a two point conversion so a little bit of a disconnect there for me. If this is your mindset if you're we're going to go for two at almost every turn except when the analytics guy says don't go for two based on the chart that he's put together i. I would've thought that there would have been a two point conversion prior to yesterday but there wasn't but here's the biggest disconnect from what Harbaugh said and even the analytics guy wouldn't be able to explain explain this one because when the Ravens were down twenty three to six in the second half that's a seventeen point deficit and they scored a touchdown on to make it twenty three to twelve they kicked the extra point they did kick it once yesterday and they kicked it to cut the the lead to ten twenty three thirteen however when the score was thirty two thirteen and they scored a touchdown to make it thirty to nineteen gene similar situation down eleven they went for two in John's specifically was asked about that in his press conference after the game name and he couldn't explain it. I mean I guarantee you. There just nod their heads with the guys that are coming in with the charts and saying all right. We're going to do what you tell us to do but he did go for two in that spot but he didn't before so explain that one to me Aaron. Can you nope. I think that if it was the idea behind it was we need to score points. We know the chiefs are going to score points so we need to score as many points as you can and they went for two every time that's understandable. You can disagree agree with it but the logic there is understandable but do kind of pick and choose and weird spots is a weird one. Yeah I mean there's there to conversations. They're right that the conversation Asian of we need to score as many points as possible. We're going to be aggressive. Were playing the chiefs at Arrowhead. It's it's already a massive challenge and we're going to go showdown swinging being super aggressive going for fourth downs going for two but when you then get into the conversation which is when you should versus is when you shouldn't based on what the analytic say and the analytics do not take context into consideration it is pure heure math and I gotta tell you seriously. Context is everything in a sport like football context matters in these decisions now. There are certain situations where it's clear cut. You have to go for two or other situations that are clear cut. You have to kick the extra point. I'm but if you don't in those other you know certain going for two has a slight mathematically advantage or going for one has a slight mathematical advantage edge. If you aren't taking context consideration at that point I'm you're relying too much on people who wouldn't even be able to describe what the context was to you as a football coach John Harbaugh your football coach. You've got a feel for the game you know what's going on. You've missed two two point conversions already. Oh so now all all the sudden because we've missed two are the odds now one hundred percent. We're GONNA make the next one no they're not these are independent events in in the case of being down thirty nineteen to gopher to in that instance where the analytics essentially are telling you that you have to go for the win rather than going for overtime. That's a big part of two point. Analytics is that they get into the odds are better if you go for the win in regulation than you settle settle for a fifty fifty opportunity overtime well. The problem is is not all overtimes or fifty fifty. It depends on context. Are you a better team at that moment than they are. Are they a better team than you are at that moment. Do you have a really good two point play. Do they ever really good defense is whether a factor or field conditions of factor is wind whatever it is. I mean could win on the PAT be an issue lots of different things are play into it so John Harbaugh is GonNa. Learn here pretty quickly that that he cannot just go with the math that there's context here and down thirty to nineteen when you've missed two in a row you kick the extra point with Justin and Tucker. I don't care what that propeller head in your in your booth with your offensive coordinator's telling you what to do you kick to make it a ten point game so that you weren't down thirty to nineteen having to go to if you score another touchdown dimiss again. We're going to have so many coaching blunders tomorrow. There were so many all weekend long before I get to redskins skins beat bears if wanted to mention this quick story that Scott Allen had yesterday in the Post. I don't know if it was in today's version or yesterday's. I read it online online. Scott Allen writes the DC bog which Dan used to right Dan Steinberg. He did an interview with booger. McFarland booger is on McCall the night with Joe Tour. I can't stand Joe Tests tour. I'm not personally. I just don't think he's very good he's way too. He's way too excitable. He's way too over the top. Everything's way too dramatic for me. It's just not my cup of tea too subjective thing. Some of you may like test. Tour is a lead guy on Monday night football. I don't couldn't stand the job did remember when he hosts college football final air for what like half of the season and then they got rid of Erin that show was the best ever when it was reese and it was Holtz and it was mark may such a great show I mean it's not that bad right now with Joey Galloway and who else is on that show now. It's a it's. It's a much better show now but anyway you know when Monday night football comes to town. It's not unusual that you know reporters reach out when interview one of the two guys or three guys and do a story on it and Monday night football's not what it used to be. I mean Sunday night football's the bigger night for prime time football but Monday night football when they come to town. It can be a big deal. It's not here I mean. We've had a lot of Monday night. Games over the years but Scott Allen did interview with with Booger McFarland who will will be on the call with tests tour tonight and Booger Booger McFarland set a couple of things that were just were just I rolling opportunities -tunities for all of us. You know first of all when you come into a town is as an analyst. It's better to err on the side of being polite of being nice of being complementary entry of your host which you know tonight. The redskins are the host. They're hosting Monday night. Football and McFarland in store going to be nice to everybody you you know you wouldn't come in as a guest in someone's home saying men. This house's hideous ye you. Your food is terrible and the showers are dirty. You know you come into somebody's home. Even if you think the home is ugly you're not. GonNa say that so booger did the thing that most guests do. He lied first of all he said Bruce who sounds doing a hell of a job all right lie number one but then there was this about Fedex Field Fedex field that dump. We all know out out in landover. He said quote Bugger McFarland. Did it's a great venue just how the entire stadium doesn't really have an open end. It's all all in closed. The crowd noise the fans. It's really turned into one of the iconic venues iconic from from historical standpoint from from just looking at it historically he says even though it may not be the most flashy I enjoyed playing there. I I didn't have a lot of success but overall. I just think there's something about coming and playing there just because of how it's shaped you get a lot of stadiums now like in Tampa in Seattle that are kind of open on one end in Washington. Isn't that way. He likes the weights shaped. Fedex field an iconic venue shape shape. It's got a nice shape to it. You know it's not a pretty but it's not that fat either iconic venue the crowd noise the crowd noise actually Burger has been great. The last couple of home games. I mean loud is shit for that. Philadelphia Finale last year really loud last week for the Dallas Game so so yeah I mean the stadium's really been raucous. the last couple of of Home Games of course not with home fans in the park or not enough of the buffet he never clarify Arafat that but put the redskins have worked. Do you know this. The redskins have worked on silent counts in practice four your home games booger for home games. They've been working on silent counts. Maybe that's why it's conic is the only hope you'll advantage where you have that. Oh Oh well. I know he's trying to be nice but ICONEX a little bit over the top the verse stuff. I did sign him to a five year thirty contract at some point he did so. He's got to be Nice Nice to Bruce real quickly before we get to skins win. If you know the nationals in brewers now really with some space here there four games this clear the cubs I mean the nets would really have to fall apart in the five games against the phillies this week or the three over the weekend against Cleveland and the cubs would have to get super super hot or Philadelphia or the somebody would get super hot to knock him out of the playoffs altogether right now really does look like it's going to be a Milwaukee Washington wildcard game so then it comes down to your the race. This week is for the homefield advantage. lot of people I saw were asking this question about. If they finish in a tie I would go to Milwaukee because they had to had head to head. They beat the nets four games to two in the regular season so that would go to Milwaukee in the brewers of one eighteen twenty two including probably I don't know half of those eighteen if not more been without without Yelich which is really amazing lesser competition but yes yeah and then and you know as far as you know that wild card game which now looks like about a ninety eight percent probability use you really now have gotten to the point point where the the the braves lost. I think over the weekend. The dodgers won yesterday. The dodgers are now four games up on the braves. There was a chance briefly last week where for may be Atlantic grabbed the number one seed and I think that would have been advantaged nats. I know Atlanta's sort of own them but it would have been a team that they were familiar with I'm but now more likely than not the wild card winner between Milwaukee in wash- Washington in a one game wild card a next Tuesday. It'll be a week from tomorrow right. That's the Tuesday used a game correct and what the American League game is that Wednesday night yeah so the winner will face the dodgers in best-of-five and L. D. S. after that but be nice to finish the season. Get wild get that home. Field Milwaukee's got a really good park a really good home field advantage it'll be a night game those wild card games at night primetime. It's not one of those afternoon deals but that'll be exciting mandate to be look where they were at nineteen eighteen thirty one to be more likely than not and I. I'm not jinxing it here come on. They got a four game lead over the cubs. Cubs are reeling. They've lost six in a row. They would really have to the nats would have to go in. I mean anything over the final eight. Three wins probably doesn't their final writings. You know maybe two will get it done but anyway What is interesting about the nets and the brewers were quickly as inside you know the nats have the second best last run differential in the national league behind the dodgers the brewers the Nazis the nats run differentials plus one nineteen the brewers minus two MHM. They shouldn't be in this position but man. They gotten hot all right. Let's get to the Redskins win. If all right the REDSKINS will win tonight if they do the following things first of all. They've got to throw it to move it. I know that there have been some stories out there about Adrian Peterson against the bears. The redskins are not running the football in Chicago tonight. You cannot run the football against that team that team. Let me just make it really clear because we've had a lot of conversations about you know the bears offense struggling their defense is elite beat their front seven ee leap one of the best in football and they are physical and they are fast. Redskins are not running the football tonight not with their sorry ass run scheme. They don't know how to run. The football. Could Adrian Peterson break three tackles in the backfield to pick up five live six yards. Yes is that the way you're going to make a living tonight. No they've got to throw it to move it and they can't do it with a bunch of dropback back. Jay's got a call a sharp game right. You've got to get quick game. Going you. GotTa get bubbles screens. Take advantage of what Chicago does a lot lot. Chicago plays a lot of zone defense. The skins in the first two games have been pretty good at attacking zone schemes. KEENUM's been good good at finding the holes and in getting the ball out quickly. This is a way the redskins can move the football tonight. You gotTA throw it to move it all right attack their weakness and they don't have many of them but they're secondary's probably their weakness defensively any Jackson's really good now. He's also a little bit banged up coming into this one Amara at one corner fuller at the other. They got ha Bac Their Haha Clinton dix all right. That's the way you're you move it tonight. You gotta move the football by throwing the football. The redskins win tonight if they protect case keenum. It's been interesting about these first. Two Games Ames's they've actually done a pretty good job of protecting him just two sacks and two games some hurries and hits but if I were to tell you that the offensive line a two and a half weeks ago was GonNa do it was only going to allow two sacks of case keenum. You would have taken that in love with it. You know the left side in particular pen in flowers. You've done a pretty decent job in pass fro. The running backs have done a nice job in pass fro but that was against Philli in Dallas both good defenses ince's Chicago's pass rush with Khalil Mack in company a completely different deal elite is what they are the only way to move it tonight. I believe we'll be through through the air and to move it through the air. They've got to protect case keenum. Protecting him is paramount. The play calling will need to protect him not by running the football for minus two in setting up second and twelve but by calling pass plays at allow keenum to read zone coverage figure out where the receivers are going to sit down and get it out quickly. The redskins will win tonight if they get off the field on third down. They got to do a better job of getting off the field on third down through three weeks. I'm sorry through two weeks. The redskins sixty four point three percent third down defense is is the third worst in NFL history through the first two weeks. It has been a disaster defensively now. The good news Chicago Chicago is not very good through the first two weeks converting on third down offensively. They're six for twenty six third worst in the League in converting offensively on on third down. That's been an issue for them. You know the Redskins have to get off the field on third down now. trubisky unlike Wentz in Prescott can get full of a little bit the Redskins have to do a good job of figuring out how to make trubisky think in hesitate hill throwing up for grabs against some zone covers that he's is reading his man the bears by the way and I mentioned this have more weapons than you think offensively Tar Cohen Cordell Patterson David Montgomery the rookie from Iowa. I was stayed Alan Robinson. Anthony Miller trae Burton's coming back. You know off Sports Hernia Surgery. It's been slow but they think he's healthier this week and by the way the bears are looking at the redskin defense thinking they can get healthy tonight's the night that they can get trubisky rolling because he hasn't played well. They can get his confidence up. The redskins have to get off the field on third down the last two weeks. Just watching Dallas take the ball early in the second quarter and never give it back the rest of the way five scoring drives and then a walk the clock off drive to end the game that was just in just painful painful with the cowboys did to the redskins starting in the early second quarter seven plays ninety seven yards touchdown touchdown. Levin plays eighty three yards touchdown nine place seventy five yards touchdown eleven play seventy five yards touchdown. That's four straight drives eleven play sixty gate yard field goal. They had a penalty there. That's five. Sri Drives with the score. Ten plays fifty four yards touchdown. That's six straight drives with with the score. That's that's five street drives of the score and then the final drive of the game six plays forty five yards game over embarrassing couldn't get off the field on third down with the Eagles did to them in week. One in the second half embarrassing touchdown drive touchdown touchdown dry field goal drive taking the game over embarrassing. It's got to get better. They've got to get off the field on third down there better than the way they played played in the first two games. The redskins will win tonight if they punt well. which is something that I think you can count on but here or is it? The kind of game going into we're field position and making a team go eighty three yards eighty seven yards eighty the yards every time they have it will serve them well right now. tress way is number one in the league in gross punting yards average fifty two point something thing second in Net punting the redskins are fifth in the League in opponents starting field position meaning and the opponent is starting in the fifth worst starting field position of the thirty two teams on average and the reason for that is either punting the ball well be. They're not turning the ball over. They haven't had one turnover in two games and here's the other thing that has gone a little bit under the radar. I don't think the offense is done enough in the first two games but their way down the list in terms of wider. Owen too but what they have done is they are top ten to twelve in the league in plays as per drive and yards per drive and what does that do that means that they make a couple of first downs you know the Redskins can in the in the first half certainly against Philadelphia and Against Dallas Multiple Times. They're not going three and out there moving the ball. They are tenth in the League and plays per drive a right right. That's top third of the League in that their fifteenth in your I'm sorry eleventh in yard attempt in yards per drive fifteenth in place per drive arrive all right so top half of the league in both you combine that with good punting with no turnovers and you're going to force the opponent into bad starting infield position. That will be huge tonight if the bears have to start off. Let's say the bears ended up with eleven drives the game eleven or twelve and ten of them start start inside their own twenty yard line their twenty yard line or or worse. That's huge trubisky that offense. Are they going to go. Eighty plus yards a a bunch of times. I don't think so not even against the redskins defense right now which I think will step up and have a better night tonight. Lastly the Redskins will win tonight if they avoid the big mistakes on offense in particular. They have not turn the ball over two weeks. Keenum's been lucky though we know that we've watched every throw he should have two to three. Maybe even four interceptions at this point. Now that's the nature of the position and the nature of the League you get a lot of quarterbacks Philip rivers. I bet he's one of my favorites. How many interceptions are dropped on Philip rivers during the course of a season because he tries to fit it into tight windows. He'll take risks still take chances assist. Keenum does the same thing. Keenum's been very lucky. Though he had a pick six dropped he's had two others that were writing the defenders hands that were dropped but he's got to continue to get a little bit lucky tonight because if they turn the ball over against this pass rushing that team and all the sudden shortened up the field for Trubisky and company even if they're kicking kicking field goals that could end up being a difference maker there you go redskins win if they throw it to move it they protect keenum the get off the field on third down they win the field position battle with good punting with enough drives offensively where they're moving the ball a little bit before they're punting and they don't make big mistakes on offense in particular there other things you'd hate to see you know. Josh Norman Burnt twice by Alan Robinson deep balls. You know that Redskins have to be a little a bit better from a communication standpoint your secondary. I see a game. That's got a chance to be really close and I think it's a game the redskins. We'll have a chance to win. Actually I leaned redskins. I think the smell test given them out small test wise. I'd I'd lean redskins. Plus five is were the numbers right now and and I would probably tell you that because everybody's on the under the game will probably go over. You know it'll probably be like what's the number forty two and a half every two yeah around forty one forty you too depending on also you know. 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Everybody knows him likes him but if they get run out of the building with chic- Chicago offense that's generated nineteen points in two games and let's just say scores. You know thirty one and they lose big There's GONNA be change. I'm in it will also put this season after three weeks into major peril if they lose tonight in a big big way I could easily see the beginnings of a thirteen fourteen loss season. I don't think things are stable. I know I mentioned this on Friday and a couple of you wanted me to get into more detail. The only thing that I can essentially say is that I don't think that the head coach and the Front Office are as tight as they used to be all right. That's my guess and and my my par- my guess would be the head coach probably sees that the end is near but at the same time I think they all feel like tonight could be the beginning of getting back into a season here 'cause a win tonight. Then they look at the giants even though the giants are already favored they're favored by three points Sunday Sunday in the meadowlands but Miami comes then two weeks after that I think they see tonight being the key to a potential three and three record after six weeks which would give them a chance but like I've I've said to you guys a million times when it comes to NFL schedules and this is why you just can't really you. You can't predict it. NAGAS based on the schedule like if you had looked at the schedule this year nude scene buffalo in San Francisco and Detroit wouldn't you look at those game and say Games Games and say well. Those should be winnable. San Francisco at home Detroit at Home Buffalo and the Road San Francisco's undefeated Buffalo's undefeated Detroit's undefeated all right right now in fact really the redskins schedule on paper. Now is actually more difficult than it was Erin. Chicago looks more winnable then San Francisco does or perhaps even Detroit or Buffalo do anyway. You take it one at a time if they can win tonight. I think they believe out there. There's a way to get a little bit of a confidence that they don't have right now and get into position -sition to be three and three if they lose tonight that three and threes out the table with New England in two weeks in fact they lose tonight. You know who's GonNa really think they're going to the meadowlands and beating Daniel Jones and and and that team although Saquon Barkley got hurt yesterday and he may not be available. He had a high ankle sprain but tonight really you know. I know we talked about it last week. As you know is it code red or not code red. It is Code Red you know if if they is an organization say Bruce Listen. Dan Thought they were close to something if they fall to Owen three with Daniel Jones next week and New England the week after that this thing's going to get get out of control and it's GonNa get ugly in my view and I do think I do think there will be change especially if it gets ugly now I guess there's context for a close loss us and in encouraging loss but if it's not close and not very encouraging I would be shocked if there aren't changes the the only thing that may prevent them from happening. This week is that it's a short week. You know it's a short week for on the Redskins to prepare for the giants because the Games being played played on Monday night by the way I think offensively the redskins are going to play well tonight against an elite it defense a true elite defense but I have a feeling that they're going to be able to move the football little bit and hang in there and I'll have my prediction coming up a little bit later on all right. Let's go around the NFL and talk about some of the Games from yesterday the biggest blaze and the clutch moments. It's time to go around the AW. Let's start in Tampa for really what was I think most people thought one of the biggest stories of the day and that was the debut of Daniel Jones and we talked about it a little bit earlier. They're playing a terrible defense but Jones was really good in this game you know he rushed for two touchdowns. He was twenty ninety three thirty six for three thirty six. He threw for two touchdowns. He had an excellent football game and I think one of the things that you know you've known for almost a month now. Maybe maybe even a little bit longer going back to them early in the preseason remember and in the early portion of the preseason like in that first game. I think they had against the Patriots. Was it the Patriots the first team they played in the preseason. I forget the order of the Games but the bottom line is this guy. Daniel Jones was like perfect and every opportunity he had in the preseason. He was like perfect. Did he throw an incompletion in the preseason if he did it was like one or two and that was it and you heard the buzz coming out of New York. They were very very impressed with him going back to. Ot as many camp and they saw the end for ally manning. It was just a matter of when like they're gonNA give you like a chance and he started the first two games didn't play well well they row into and it's a good spot to bring Daniel Jones in I first game 'cause the buccaneers are terrible defense. Mrs Truly one of the worst defensive offensive teams in the NFL right now but he played well he did and he he certainly through one game you know gave Dave gettleman something to smile about Pat Shurmur something to smile about gave the giants organization something to think and dream about because they had an Eli manning era. That was a pretty good era. You know it included two super bowl victories and a lot of people see a a lot of of ally manning except with wheels in Daniel Jones. He's got some wheels by the way so they win that game thirty to thirty one there in early early three point favorite over the redskins in the meadowlands for what will be his first home start and I would imagine you know that the meadowlands will be ginned up jacked up ready to go for his first home game ever that place in Tampa yesterday sounded super loud with giant fans down in Tampa Tampa as it usually does staying in the division man the Lions beat the Eagles Twenty seven twenty four in the eagles the turned it over a couple of times in that game they had an opportunity on a blocked field goal down twenty seven twenty four with a big return of that field goal to be already in field goal range there at the end of the game but on the blocked field goal return there was a penalty a block in the back so instead of having it first and ten at the Detroit. I think it was the Detroit twenty five yard line something like that. They would have already been field goal range. The ball got a move back to midfield field and the eagles went foreign out game over Matt Stafford and the Lions go to two zero one and the eagles dropped to one and two in in the eagles by the way have a short week in a game at Lambeau Thursday night against the three and packers so the eagles are staring one in three right in the face and and by the way then they get a I guess a quasi break with the jets at home and then listen to this at Minnesota at Dallas at Buffalo then the bears Patriot tree seahawks Manny Eagles all of the sudden by not winning last Sunday night Atlanta not winning at home against Detroit Ed to come back back to the redskins. They're looking a little less than what I thought they were which was a contender for the NFC east crown and a contender for certainly gently NFC a playoff spot the cowboys right now at three and jumped off to the best start overall in that game by the way the Lions. Things got very very conservative late in that game which I thought was a big mistake. They had an opportunity on a third down in field goal range up twenty seven twenty four. Matt Stafford on bootlegs got a wide open receiver and midst him badly and that was right before the blocked field goal. If he had thrown the ball well to Golladay it would have been a first down and they would have been able to run the clock out instead they lined up for a field goal up three got blocked return the penalty and there there you go. Philadelphia ends up going for and out and missing an opportunity to either tie up the lions or win the game they are when the lions had a chance to basically szekely put the game on ice on the other division game was Dallas. Miami Dallas went off what twenty two twenty one and a half hour and something like that yeah. I didn't look at either one of those two games. I personally am bedroom. I would have bet the dogs in woulda gone. Cowboys ended up covering the number but I tell you what if you had the dolphins on the first half line on you want easily because he was ten to six at halftime it was actually ten to six with the dolphins driving to take the lead before the end of the first half and I think it was Kenyan Drake fumbled pulled the Dallas five yard line something like that. Dallas recovered and they went on to to roll in the second half to get a big win Taco Charlton in who the cowboys released last week the dolphins picked up and he had a sack in a game against former team. Also I made the comment either on the Radio Jio show or on the on the podcast. Maybe both on Friday about how incredible it was that the dolphins were playing this season as in true. Give up mode right from the jump. We've really never seen that in the. NFL Cleveland was very competitive at times in sixteen team. If you can believe that Miami had been outscored you know forty three nothing in fifty nine to ten in their first two games. They came out. They tried an onside kick. The tried a lot of different things Josh Rosen got his first start so they made more more of an effort yesterday but Dallas too good and the cowboys are now three zero they go to New Orleans next Sunday night to face the saints without drew brees easy even though the saints one at Seattle yesterday and then they get a match up on October sixth the first Sunday in October they get a match up at home against Tehran Rodgers and the packers that could be when we get to it it could be a match up of two four no teams the packers with the Eagles short week situation on Thursday night and the cowboys to New Orleans but they face teddy bridgewater not drew brees that would be by the way early October four twenty five pm kickoff on Fox cowboys packers both undefeated teams that would be one of those where we would read about on Monday that Fox did the single highest television rating for their late window in like fifteen years something like that that's what's coming down the pike for the cowboys elsewhere around the NFL the ravens chiefs game we sort of talked about it already when we're talking about the the John Harbaugh analytics the people that were saying before this game I don't know if I said it on the podcast one of the two on Friday come on I Lamar Jackson's intriguing. I like watching the Ravens play. I like watching him. Play play mahomes versus. Jackson's not going to be peyton manning versus. Tom Brady Mahomes is in a category all by himself right now and that includes the greats right now he throws it as well as anybody does and by the way is elusive creates time. He's truly like almost a stronger armed version version of Aaron Rodgers at this point. Jackson is crazy good in the way he plays but said this before about Jackson. He's one of these guys that does has not throw with anticipation now. Does it matter because he's able to create so much time by extending plays inside the pocket outside the pocket. It doesn't matter that much but she's made some big plays missed a lot of throws yesterday that could have kept the the Ravens and they ended up losing thirty three to twenty eight. They actually got the cover got a little back back-door cover there at the end without last touchdown to make it thirty three twenty eight with two minutes to go by the way one other quick point. I wanted to make it's on all the the all the analytics people that were tweeting this out yesterday so the Ravens scored with two minutes and one second to go the went for two again missed it so it's thirty three twenty eight to thirty three thirty by the way they should on. That was the right spot to do what they were down eleven they should they needed to go to their. They hadn't gone to before they could've kicked for the point and it would have been a three point game anyway with two minutes and one second. They had a drop kick onside kick attempt. It wasn't really an onside kick attempt okay but they drop kicked it where the ball popped up in the air which allowed for Kansas City eighty to call for a fair catch on a kickoff return and I'm telling you you would have thought that the analytics people considered John Harbaugh or ball to be Albert Einstein like Oh my God that was brilliant because now Kansas City has to run a played before the two minute warning which acts like another timeout for Baltimore well hello the by the way that drive after the little drop kick attempt at which did result in a fair catch for Kansas City at at their own thirty six yard line. If Justin Tucker Aaron had just is kick the ball out of the end zone with the clock of started now no okay so it was not a genius move in fact it probably wasn't the smart move at all the smart move would have been for Justin Tucker to kick it clear through the end zone at Arrowhead which by the way he can do all right. That's what he he does is. He kicks it through the end zone pretty much every single time he wants to kick it through the end zone and the other team has to start from their own twenty five yard line. That's what happens opens almost every time he lines up eight. He kicked it out of the end zone early in the game. I'll go through all of these. After the after the Baltimore scores Ceesay kick it out of the end zone and the next one and yes yes yes lot of starting points of the twenty five yard line because Justin Tucker kicked it out of the end zone so what would have really been genius is if he had had Justin Tucker kick it out of the end zone then the clock would have still been at two minutes and one second but that she would have had the ball from their own twenty five yard yard one my God I mean John. Some of these teams are relying on some of these guys to make decisions for them. Better think twice because I bet you John Harbas our analytic sky came up with that drop kick idea yeah you got a guy that can kick it through the end zone every single time and you can put them at their own twenty five with no time having been robbed the Clock Dumdum Baltimore Loses Thirty Three Twenty eight Kansas City is really good so as New England the AFC's got to exceptional teams and I think in Baltimore has a really good team to actually think there's another other team in the AFC. That's really good. I'll get to them in a moment. elsewhere around the league. How about what San Francisco and Pittsburgh did do each other there. Pittsburgh forced five turnovers in the game and couldn't win. When's the last time team had plus four in the turnover margin I. I think that's what it was and lost. The Game Pittsburgh with Mason. Rudolph Rudolph was not impressive in this game until late had bombed this Guy Deontay Johnson Johnson had a slant to shuster. He took it to the house. Here's the thing about San Francisco watching them yesterday because that was the CBS game they are. They have incredible team speed have you have you watched. This is the first time I've watched San Francisco. They have a really good team speed defensively. They do offensively they do Matt Braida in Moster Quick Fast Kit. Oh by the way great tight end. We've known that Deebo Samuel Mark this now. He's going to be a star wide receiver in this league deebo Samuel Rookie South Carolina. They've got Goodwin. They've they've got speed Richard. James can run and you know what they the Shanahan family does better than any other family in the history of the NFL run the the football. I don't care what Kyle or Mike do or with whom they're working or what they have. They figure out a way to run the football truly would they will both be remembered for is nobody could run the football more consistently than the Shanahan's hundred and sixty eight yards on the the day for the forty niners who are three and oh and I believe I thought I saw this earlier. I'M GONNA look it up right now. I want to see where they are right now. Rushing rushing offense fourth in the League in rushing offense through the first four games the Ravens are I Viking second cowboys third forty niners liners are fourth in NFL rushing offense in the first four games very impressive win for them to get to three you know and they've got the rams coming up in a couple of weeks speaking of the rams and the browns last night. I did fall asleep in the second half of that Game Erin. I watched the final drive this morning man first and goal at the rams four yard line plenty of time all their timeouts they never ran the ball once they put it in Baker Mayfield's hands which wasn't necessarily surly the right decision he looked. I thought both quarterbacks really looked average last including jared goff now that could be a result of two really good defenses fences which I think it is but neither quarterback looked great but the rams get the three and holding on twenty two thirteen over the Browns who that that stadium last night free-kick jacked up just like Georgia was Saturday night before the Notre Dame game the packers. The broncos were smell test back. I know a lot of your like get the broncos. They've actually played well in the first three weeks. They played three really good teams well. They play to really good teams last two weeks. I'm good defenses. Excuse me are really good. Defenses too many turnovers no offense in particular had a big first down drive where they're down at touchdown and they're moving moving the football and he just handed it to the defender. FLACCO had a bag bad pitcher cat fumbled. He was under siege the defy the Denver offensive line. It's terrible. You get sacked six times. I like Bill Lindsay a lot. I like their defense alive. Green Bay didn't do much offensively in the game but they won the turnover battle by a lot. I mean it was a I think plus three in the turnover category and that made the difference in a twenty seven to sixteen win in the packers with Preston Smith by the way Preston Smith yesterday ended up with three more sacks okay so Preston Smith on this season right now on the season has I'm going to look this up. He has four and a half sacks three games. There's not having a pretty good season in Green Bay. Never really had that never was much of a he was a pressure guy. Pressure waves in decent player here may just didn't want to pay him and he's doing very well in Green Bay Green Bay really really put an emphasis on defense you you know they signed. Ammos the Safety Smith and ends Dairy Smith from Baltimore drafted Darnell savage at Maryland. They needed to remake their defense. They've done that and their defense is off to a really really good start and they are three and with the eagles coming in for a Thursday night game you know their next three games or eagles cowboys the lion so we will see about what the packers are made of in the next few weeks a couple more quick notes on the NFL all day. The Panthers Kyle Allen Rookie quarterback at a Houston was unbelievable in his debut threw four touchdown passes. McCaffrey was great and that that game didn't you did you play the cardinals I did. The panthers blew out the cardinals thirty eight to twenty on the Texans came from behind to beat. The chargers offers twenty seven twenty. I think Houston's good now. They don't protect to Shawn Watson very well but I actually think they're a good team. I think the chargers you're good team to the chargers are really tough with Keenan Allen in rivers offensively but they had in rivers. You know had a couple of misses is a couple of key drops or a couple of penalties on big plays that brought the ball back there at the end and they lose twenty seven to twenty. Two chargers are up to a one and two start. They lost the lions last week fortunately for them. They get the dolphins coming up this week but I think Houston's got a good team like it would not surprise me under that division Avi. The Colts beat the Falcons yesterday to in one that AFC south has Houston indie now Jacksonville with Gardner Minhsiu in the defense going to be an interesting division all year long. I think I I'll take Houston right now to win that division Aaron. I you know I liked you. Kobe Kobe percent and and really bright before luck retired. I went on this big thing about percents because somebody else had said something but I probably take Houston in in that division. They're probably just better all around plus. They've been there a little bit even. D- was there last year. I don't know it's going to be a tough division to call ulcer Frisky game. Yeah really good game. Atlanta really sorta off slowly came back and how about with the saints did the Seahawks. They get an early punt return from. I'm this Guy Harris who they've liked going back to training camp you heard him talking about Deonte Harris Deontay Harris number eleven wide receiver from Assumption College Alright Rookie five-foot sp five and a half one hundred seventy pounds and they've been talking about what a great returner is. Willie returned a punt for touchdown and the game the lead bridgewater really didn't have to do that much there was a fumble return for touchdown the punt return for a touchdown and the Saints Aints win going away even though the final score was thirty three twenty seven that lasts touchdown came on the final play of the game the saints where smell tests pick they were the one winner in the NFL Denver in Cleveland with a two losers in the NFL on what turned out to be a nine five and one week I think that's it patriots hammered the jets. The Vikings got a big day from Dalvin Cook. Kirk cousins wasn't anywhere near what he was a week ago was really solid didn't turn the ball over but they've got a running game with Galvin Cook. He's got to stay healthy. Their offense line still isn't that great. Their defenses stepped up and if it's healthy it's going to be a force in that. NFC North and then how about the bills we didn't mention them. They gave up a fourteen nothing lead and then down seventeen fourteen. Josh Allen drove him for the winning score and they are three and a couple of a more a couple more. NFL notes first of all the NFC north right now green bay three no Detroit's two zero in one Minnesota's to win one so for Chicago to keep pace. They were one of the favorites to win this division. Maybe be favourite more than anything else they to win win. They would have a two one record they can win tonight and they'd be sitting there in a division that that point would have nine wins and two who losses through three weeks of the season also wanted to mention this if you didn't see two more notes from the NFL weakened number one four teams teams that miss the playoffs last year. Four of them are undefeated Buffalo Detroit Green Bay in San Francisco typical the NFL teams didn't make the playoffs last year. You're going to have somewhere between of the twelve. NFL playoff teams it's GonNa be five or six teams that were in the playoffs a year ago pretty much every year you know half the playoff playoff field turns over year to year and now the bills lions packers and niners all undefeated after missing the postseason last year and then how about these numbers from from Patrick Mahomes through through the first twenty games of his career. He has the highest numbers by a quarterback through twenty career games in passing yards. He's thrown for six thousand five hundred seventy six yards in twenty games. He's thrown for sixty touchdowns ounce in twenty one games. NFL quarterbacks ever done that his passer rating is the highest in NFL history through his first twenty. Any Games mahomes has been unbelievable. He's also the first player to record at least three hundred and fifty passing yards three touchdown passes and zero interceptions in three consecutive games in NFL history. He did it yesterday throwing for three seventy seventy eight three touchdowns and no interceptions he has been unbelievable and even the last year you know. I said don't put them into can't quite yet. He's GonNa go ahead and finish first year. He really has been sensational by the way one other quick note about Christian McCaffrey performance yesterday he had one hundred and eighty eight scrimmage yards yesterday one hundred and fifty three on the ground thirty five receiving and a touchdown McCaffrey who had two hundred nine nine scrimmage yards and two touchdowns in week one is just the fourth player in NFL history with at least one hundred and eighty five yards eh touchdown in two of his team's first three games of a season he joins listen to this class Jim Brown Billy Sims uh-huh and Adrian Peterson on that list McCaffrey special man fun to watch play and that speed on that long seventy six yard touchdown run run was incredible all right let's finish up with a little weekend a DVR talk about some of the college games from over the weekend and then we will finish with a redskins pick in the game tonight but real quickly if you're listening to us on apple podcasts or I tunes and we mentioned this every time I'm one mentioned it. A little bit earlier in the show rate us in review is really helps us. If you write a review and put it in also you can subscribe no cost. That helps helps us as well all right. Let's finish up with a little weekend. DVR have a busy weekend. Don't worry we've got you covered. It's a weekend indeed. Let's start with some of the college football from Saturday because the Notre Dame Georgia game. I don't know it's been a long time since since I've seen an atmosphere pre kickoff like that one usually it's reserved for LSU Alabama lighten Baton Rouge. That's when you usually see it. that game was a really good good football game. The Georgia Notre Dame game was I liked Notre Dame. I thought they showed a lot on the road. As by the way that game went off at Sixteen Gene Errand that was sixteen sixteen and a half kickoff. I thought Notre Dame showed a lot in that game if somehow they had been able to pull it off. They certainly would have been one of the playoff favorites but they're good. They're gonNA be good the rest of the year. They don't have anybody near as good as Georgia on the schedule. Oh they played Virginia this week in south ban. They've got a game against southern cal. That's in South Bend. They had to play at Michigan this year. Michigan's reeling. We'll get to that in a moment a Stanford's not nearly as good this year. I think Notre Dame's got a chance to go eleven in one you know I think they've got a chance to be a one loss team and it'll be make it interesting thing because that loss. Notre Dame on Saturday night in that atmosphere is what would be. I think categorized as an impressive loss. It's like if Georgia were to go the rest of the way undefeated and let's say win the SEC title game and be the number one seed in the playoffs and Notre Dame sitting there as for the final spot one of two or three one loss teams that loss is GonNa look like a good loss at the end. They played well. They played very well. L. Ucf finally lost pit beat him. That was the smell test lean on Friday pit plus the eleven and a half. Did you bet it or not. I I didn't touch that game now. You didn't so pit winds thirty five thirty four some about that. I like a lot. I do something about pit in in the last several years with some of the coaching you know they have sort of a traditional offense. They are hard nosed. They played tough football and they won that game by the way a on a call on fourth down philly special the one that the eagles ran nick foles in the Super Bowl. They call it the pit special they won on that play winning at thirty five thirty thirty four to end that long regular season winning streak that UCF had Virginia in terms of the locals. Do you know they were down seventeen gene nothing to Odu at home saw that it came back they won the game twenty eight seventeen and now they had to Notre Dame they play as an undefeated team next Saturday at South Bend and I think they are like an eleven and a half point underdog in that game couple of other college games before I get to one of the most remarkable comebacks in in college football history and that would be the first of all the Friday night games since we haven't talked that. USC Utah Game was fun to watch first of all SE loses their second quarterback after losing jt Daniels Matt thank a guy that was going to transfer as the third string quarterback comes is in early first quarter and ends up throwing for three hundred and fifty one yards and three touchdowns in SCC beat Utah Thirty to twenty three Utah's really good and they're going to be an opportunity here and trust me or the rest of the year the fact that they lost that game you know they won't get as much respect. They're really good good on defense. SC At one point in the fourth quarter right and understand this this was not much sack yardage included at one point in the fourth headquarter they had minus twenty seven yards rushing with no sack yardage included that they finished the game twenty two carries thirteen thirteen yards. Utah's run defense is unbelievable unbelievable that game on Friday night. Did you watch this at all. Yeah I had to actually I had the over in that game. That was such a chippy physical violent game for the PAC twelve. I thought it was a highly entertaining to watch that game had owned Michigan. Jim Harbaugh has got to be in trouble right now. I mean they were horrible against Wisconsin. Wisconsin is really good John Taylor. He's he's got a good shot. You know in the heisman race two hundred and three yards and I think what does that. He's got like two on the season so far. He rushed for okay. I'm sorry he because he barely played in the first. Two blowout wins this one hundred thirty five one hundred two four forty three games. He's got a shot. He's got shot. He won't win at some of these. quarterbacks are putting up to to Gaudy numbers but he could be a finalist and he could be I mean I think there's chance depending on on what Wisconsin does this year. There's a a legitimate chance chance for him to to to to snag Heisman when all said and done. I'M GONNA get a long way to go along. Ligo lastly the game of the weekend none of you saw it because it ended in the wee hours of Sunday morning but it was one of the great comebacks in the History College football especially when you consider consider the circumstance. UCLA was Owen three with chip Kelly coming into their game at Washington state Washington State. Mike Leach's team was undefeated what was the number in that game twenty something. I'm not sure exactly the look it up real quickly. I I I liked. Ucla a little bit believe it or not yeah that sounds like an after the fact thing but I didn't play it but actually almost considered playing it trust me they're games nearly considered playing knowing that I would have lost to eighteen Washington state with an eighteen point favorite in part because Ucla was three and couldn't score in their first three gangs had fourteen thirteen against Cincinnati fourteen against Oklahoma and fourteen against San Diego State. They were only three couldn't score couldn't move the football on their first three games. So in this particular game they are down in this game thirty five seventeen at halftime already. They've scored or more points in the first half than they had in their three previous games. They're getting blown out the leap gross to forty nine to seventeen with five minutes to go in the third quarter that would be a thirty two point Washington state lead and then everything turns around. This is an amazing comeback comeback. Ucla scores in the second half fifty points and it wasn't just in the second half they scored scored fifty points over the final fifteen minutes and forty eight seconds of the game fifty not fifteen five five zero and they won a game against Washington state sixty seven to sixty three Washington state quarterback through nine touchdowns wants Anthony Gordon threw nine touchdown Washington state during Thompson Robinson through five for Ucla there were nearly fourteen hundred yards in this game and Washington state turned it over seven times seven seven times they turn the ball over including in the second half four times on fumbles and ucla down forty eighty nine seventeen with late night third quarter scored fifty points to and that game win at sixty seven sixty three in amazing raising football game can only happen in college football where there are that many possessions in the game in the second half. UCLA had nine real possessions in the game ten total. If you include the kneel down to end the game nine possessions that's won an NFL team sometimes as in a game the redskins against the cowboys last week only had eight real possessions. That's unbelievable unbelievable for the game. UCLA had seventeen possessions in the game sixty seven sixty three. That's one of those where if you see oh they ex- they accidentally put the basketball all score from last year and they're not that was a college football game. UCLA outscored Washington State fifty to twenty eight in the second half all right and lastly sleep just want to talk about Antonio Brown who got released after we went off the year on Friday the Patriots released him kept very low key just quick statement by the way belic yesterday questioned by Dana Jacobson. Did you see that in the pre-game yeah and he said we're talking about the jets and then gave her a staredown it was uncomfortable and and out of line one hundred percent and he should be criticized for that tried to essentially usually intimidate her which was wrong on every level and I hope there's an apology coming from him if there hasn't been already probably not so anyway aby is is cut by the Patriots stunning news on Friday. This was in the wake of the text messages text messages he had sent to the artist who had accused used Antonio Brown of you know sexual misconduct in that Robert Clem Co sports illustrated story so they release him and initially Antonio Brown on twitter. There's like thank you for the opportunity. Good Luck Patriots. You know being very nice on twitter then came yesterday. first of all there were the tweets that he pulled-back about. He tweeted essentially about Robert Kraft. Quote craft got caught in the parlor. ABC Speculations Fire Different Strokes broke different folks clearly. I don't even know what that means. I think I do he's essentially saying crap got caught in the in the in the massage parlor and and then it's a bunch of speculation he gets fired and kraft. Did Kraft owns the team. I don't know if Antonio understand that but then he deleted that Ah tweet he also tweeted yesterday about Rothlisburger four games for Big Ben Crazy four games for big Ben Crazy world. I'm done with it. The problem is he doesn't have punctuation in any of these tweets which sometimes make it makes them a little bit difficult to digest but that one basically saying when Big Ben had that sexual misconduct situation you got four games suspended and he's you know a crazy world because he's he's essentially right now. L. Unemployed then came this tweet this tweet late yesterday actually yesterday morning for maybe we'll be playing in the NFL NFL anymore. These owners can cancel deals do whatever they wanted anytime we will see if the NFL PA hold them accountable sad they can just void guarantees anytime going on forty million two months. We'll see if they pay up so basically saying there translation. He's not going to play in the NFL anymore because these owners. I canceled deals. They do whatever they want at any time hopefully the NFL PA is gonNA come to my back and hold them accountable because it sad that they can just void guarantees for forty million over two months thirty million with the raiders the ten million or nine or ten million with the the Patriots. We will see if they pay up. I would not hold your breath. Antonio about seeing one penny of any of that money you had incredibly self destructive behavior these teams have the right right per the NFL PA in per the CBA the collective bargaining agreement to cut you for any reason prior to paying you any of that signing bonus Nisa money. Apparently he'll get paid for the first two weeks of the season but the first trunch bat nine million to ten million dollar signing bonus was actually do today the Patriots. They're not gonNA pay that I think as I mentioned this is a very troubled human being and hopefully he's got people in his life keeping an I on them here over the next couple of months at this point. I would be stunned if anybody's signs him. I don't see anybody coming near him. At this point. Remember remember it's like the Patriots are the gold standard and they're the only place where people thought this would work out for him and when it didn't work out there nobody else in the League is going to take a shot now. The League cannot put him on the exempt list if he's not actually on a roster but pretty much any team knows that if they were to sign him he's going on the Commissioner's listeners exempt list and even if these allegations are pure money grabs which a lot of people believe they are the text messages that he sent to that artist were out of line and fullish beyond foolish because it cost him you know after Oh here's the other think for all those people that thought he was so clever that he got himself out out of Oakland to get to New England Yeah I. I don't think he was that clever because he couldn't wouldn't hang in there in New England to collect ten million or whatever he had coming his way. I think he's done in the NFL. If he goes through major Rehab Psychological Rehab Habby he checks himself in somewhere or is diagnosed as bipolar diagnosed as schizophrenic or something and he gets help and he gets medication. You know he's got so much. Talent that maybe in twenty twenty somebody else will give them an opportunity. I would be shocked if he gets opportunity this year. I don't think it's going to happen happen by the way there were some interesting comments from Tom. Brady about Antonio Brown in a backwards or in a subtle way because he he told W. E. I radio uh-huh in Boston where he does a Monday morning. Show on Mondays he was asked about Antonio Brown and he said I have a lot of personal feelings none of which I really care to share it's difficult situation. That's kind of how I feel but then he went on not specifically mentioning Antonio Brown by name. Remember Brady really endorse this there were reports when he got cut the other day that there were some players in the locker room that today. CBS been a model citizen since the time he arrived in New England and they liked him and they were very upset. The team moved on without him. It was the text messages that did admit if he doesn't send those text messages to that that artist maybe he ends up being put on the exempt list for whatever the NFL uncovers via you know investigation but anyway brady sets a few things this morning that were very interesting. Here's what Brady said this morning quote. There's a lot of human elements as a player as a person. I care deeply about my teammates. I want everybody to be the best they can be from the day. I started with this team even back in college. Try to provide leadership and you try to care for people. Try to provide whatever you think you can help them reach their highest potential whatever the situation it is. I've had a lot of teammates over the years so you invest not just your ahead but your heart you invest your soul. That's what makes a great team that that's what makes a great brotherhood Brotherhood so I think in the end the endearing trait straight about sports for me is the relationships I get to build because they're very meaningful. That's at the heart I think philosophically of my life. It's really about great relationships and seeing in guys from all different backgrounds. I think it brings us all together in so many ways he continued. Everyone needs something a little bit different different. Everyone's upbringing was a little bit different. Everybody's emotional states are different. How do you contribute whether someone is hurting physically mentally emotionally howdy he provides them with they may need in order to support them to help us all grow and evolve not only as individuals not only as members of the team not only as members of the family not only as members of a community but everybody has different challenges remember. He started this answer by saying. I'm not gonNA talk about Antonio Brown but I think he's talking about Antonio Brown and maybe a lot of other teammates that have had troubles along the way during his career he continues. I think you recognize those challenges. I just try to provide them as best as possible and go to bed at night trying to do the best you can do if things don't work out as you hoped and absolutely when you put your heart on the line there's emotions that come up a lot of things that are not not always in your control but you wake up the next day and try to find hope and optimism he also he kept going on WanNa. Go on and on about you know you know. Life is tough especially based uncertain upbringings and he's you know he said we were. We're in a culture where we want to cash judgment so quickly on people we want to disparage people so quickly and it just speaks to me that a lot of people are probably hurting because when you're not feeling great you want other people to know that. I think it becomes very emotional. really went on and on on radio this morning. This is clearly a response to the Antonio Brown situation. Somebody who's situation. I think has touched him. In in a way remember again. He was very much in support of signing Antonio Brown and took him under his wing remember. We had this conversation last week. He offered Antonio Brown his house to stay until he found him a place. They put his locker near Brady's. I think Antonio Brown's got a lot of issues clearly. He's very troubled. Hopefully he will get the help that he needs and it would be a phenomenal redemption story. If if you were to get the help he needs get the medication needs get whatever he needs and he's back in the League next year by the way a breaking story this morning the Jags you know decided they were not going to trade Jalen Ramsey and he called in sick. Today not doesn't WanNa this show up for practice. I don't I said this on Friday. Why would he not want to be on that team. I don't understand why you wouldn't want to be on that. Jacksonville defense rumor as he has a problem with Coughlin. Everybody's got a problem with Kaufman. Well ask Michael Strahan about his problems with coughlan early on all right final score prediction for Redskins Bears Tonight Bears Twenty Four redskins twenty three. I think it's a close game. I think it's a game. The redskins have a chance to win. I think my footnote I gave this on radio is that the redskins end up with some saks montas sweat ends up with his first and Jay gruden down twenty four seventeen scores late goes for two at Aaron has some analytics guy out there saying you gotta go for two and they don't get it and they lose twenty four twenty three and we're in here talking about an win three-team team but slightly encouraged by the performance. That's my guess who the hell knows. I don't think I'm going to bet the game though if I had to bet it I bet the over because everybody's going to be on the under in this game. Don't you think oh absolutely yeah so maybe over. That's why twenty four twenty three gets you over. That's forty seven seven and the numbers forty one and a half forty two somewhere around forty one forty two depending on the book there all right. That's it for today. Tommy will be with me tomorrow. Obviously we will recap the game. enjoy the rest of the day and the game tonight.

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RTFP #920:  Week 7 Takeaways

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RTFP #920: Week 7 Takeaways

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To interact and I'll get to this momentarily but was able to meet a couple more tuck heads in person last night, Daniel Mackey and Tim bacon. Absolutely incredible. So anyway, bright, it's big Showtime. I Ross week seven almost in the books all the Sunday games. Done anyway, your takeaways, your thoughts from this week. You know what? Bri. I'm just thinking, I'm going to do this a little bit differently today tonight. Whatever you even call, whatever it is right now, I'm gonna number one. Tell everybody the story of how we're recording this right now. And number two talk about meeting up with my awesome. Awesome dudes end doodads that met up with me at the green man pub after the game. So Brian is in Baltimore right now recording this at midnight eastern because he was working the saints ravens game last night. So it's midnight in on the east coast. It's five AM here in London. This is the best time where you get a podcast for you guys just want you to. You know that we promised to get you a podcast every single day. So we're actually doing this via Skype. I at my hotel in London, Brian is at his hotel in Baltimore. He staying up later, then he wants to, and I definitely woke up earlier than I wanted to to be able to get this posted for you guys and tell you about last night. It was really, really cool Bri. I mean, I'm not going to remember everybody's name that was there, but there were a bunch of on my mentioned, tuck heads like Tim and Daniel and his friend from Edinburgh, Scotland, which was really, really cool. Type justina day are Steelers fans. She's from Poland. Probably this incredible. I posted this on both Twitter and Instagram at Ross, Tucker, NFL, but just Tina is from Poland. And she learned English primarily from this. Podcast, her husband Richard had her listening to this podcast to learn English. So like when they would travel three or four hours at a time, she would listen to this podcast and she said she aided it. Absolutely hated it because she didn't. She was trying to understand English probably didn't really understand football at all. But now she loves it because it's helped her to understand English much, much more. So just enough, that is incredible. A little scary, but still incredible Adam who went to north western. He's he's an American living in over here with his wife. I'm pretty sure her name was Abigail. She was mazing, whatever name was. She was awesome. And so was he they were there. So there were a couple of Americans there as well. My buddy, of course, Tom from the Colchester gladiators and his wife air expecting baby number four. I mean. It was. It was really, really awesome. I think Adam was gonna post a picture of the group on on Twitter and that would retweeted, but it was. It was really, really cool. Went to the green man pub, walked up the hill was able to hang out with them. Tell stories, get some pictures. It was. It was a special special night and so that that is my big show experience. Just incredible for me really to ever meet any of you in person anywhere. I took a picture with Tom Marshall before the game. He was there so able to take a picture with him before the game met. Several other people took a picture of somebody after the game minute was every year when I come out here and hopefully I'll be able to do it at least once a year. It is just so special to be able to meet so many of you in person. I absolutely love. Love and it also got me thinking first of all, how thankful I am for you guys, but also how thankful I am for my wife yet again, when I travel this much, I won't get back to Pennsylvania until like midnight tonight. So it might be time for me to get my wife some out of the blue flowers from one eight hundred flowers dot com. Right now twenty four multicolored roses for only twenty four dollars. I love this. 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All right, Ross, let's get started the Europe, the game, the chargers titans titans went for that two point conversion to win it in London, but they weren't able to convert chargers escape with a twenty two nineteen wind, Philip rivers, three hundred six yards and two touchdowns in a game. That seems like it was four days ago. It really does pry. And it's funny because all of the listeners that I met up with at the green man pub were asking me, you know what I thought of the decision to go for two and I don't like overtime, and I hate ties. So I was glad he went for two because I didn't want to take the chance of tie. And then we'll take a chance of kicker determining the outcome of the game. Over able has been aggressive with this team this year for wants to win the game and wants to show his guys. He's got their back. I really, really disliked the play call. I didn't mind the first down of the first try play called because they at least got Mario to on the move and his legs were a factor. But if you think about it on fourth down, they scored a touchdown, you know the quote unquote game tying touchdown, and that was off of play action pass. So there was some threat of the run instead in this situa-. Nation you've got, you know, Morioka was under center in an empty set, which was weird unless you're kind of trying to fake a quarterback sneak, which they really weren't. There was no threat of the run before the play. There was no threat of the run by Mario to during the play. I just it didn't give enough options. I should by the way, mention the the press box, food, bright because that's obviously very important. They had like lemon meringue was kind of the desert. I'm not a lemon meringue pie guy, so they did have some berries in cream. I kinda scoop. I don't know if this is a faux pas are not bribed, but I kind of scooped the berries off the top of the cream and put them on a plate in mainly just ate like all the berries with a little bit of cream that was kinda my dessert. I like that actually, that was pretty tasty. Had a nice salad, not a lot of it, but they had enough for when I was there and some freshly cut cucumbers. I put on tap that I really liked. So that was nice. They did have Pepsi max. I'm more of a coke, zero guy, but at least they had something there where you could have a little bit of caffeine, but no calories and no sugar. So I appreciate that. Now early on, I don't know how much had to downgrade them for this bribe, but early on, they had no ice and I know it's a coach. Thing. I know I'm an American snob when it comes to ice, I get it, but I'm sorry. I just can't drink things that are lukewarm or barely cold. I need them cold. I need them really, really cold. I did like their chicken and fries halftime. Now another downgrade there though, because they didn't have squeeze mustard. They had mustard packets which have times only twelve minutes and I don't feel like I had to get my hands all mustard opening up the packets. I don't like package at all. We need to do away with packets. I'll give him a b. It was fine. It was fine, especially halftime. I think really helped him with the chicken. So I'll give them a b, but it was not. It was not great, but there was decent variety. Halftime helped the ice and the mustard packet issues are probably why there wasn't more like an a minus b plus. So that's the deal. As for the game, I liked the titans getting their running backs involved early. You know, I said, one of the keys to the game was the titans not giving up big plays, and then they proceeded to let Tiro Williams run right past them on the first play the game for a bomb and the first drive of the second half Kendrick Lewis. Let Mike Williams run right past them. I just don't get it. You know, neither time was it really a titans defensive back getting beat. Both times they just they just look. The guy run past up. Really hard in the NFL especially at twenty two nineteen game. It's really hard in the NFL to win. If you're going to give up two touchdowns over fifty yards. Plus you couple that with the fact that Marcus mariota threw his first ever red zone interception that obviously really hurt the titans as well. And so they ended up losing by a point, but they dominate the action. I mean, they, they controlled the first half. They had twenty more snaps twenty more snaps than did the chargers. But they weren't always able to to convert they settled for field goals. A couple of times, you know, they get pretty good field position due out today with their special teams. Dion Lewis was awesome, but and Mario was pretty awesome actually. But there were some critical drops that really hurt them. They had a new left guard starting for the first time, Corey Levin. He struggled that her. Lewis was a beast and Mario plate while those other things, you know, the two bombs, the red zone interception and then ultimately the two point play or what caused the titans team that probably played well enough to win that game. Patriots beat the bears thirty eight to thirty one for their fourth straight win. Trubisky connected with Kevin white on a fifty yard pass, but white was marked down at the one yard line as time expired. That certainly made it eventful. I mean, you know, he throws the bomb, white catches it. Just not quite able to get in. That would have been amazing. Trubisky actually did more with his legs than his arm. He was okay throwing the football, but he'd like over eighty yards rushing. And I think especially some of these young quarterbacks have to kind of embrace that and utilize that as a way to win games. You know, maybe they find a way to do it more with their legs. But I mean more with their arm but used their legs while they're young. The Prescott s- trubisky's. Why not? You know, I mean, Steve Young kind of did that. And then as he kept playing this burger kind of, they became more students of the game more pocket passers. You know, the biggest reason I think the bears lost this game. Was there special teams? They let Cordeiro Patterson. Take a kickoff return back to the house. Dante Hightower. Blocks upon, and then van noy picks that up and takes a back. I mean, the patriots came in beat up. Grunk didn't play a, even though they acted like he still might play on the team playing, which I literally have never heard of. I thought that was pretty funny. Apple's colts blew out the bills, thirty, seven to five. Four touchdown passes for Andrew luck. Two of which went to t. y. Hilton who didn't have a huge day, you know, yardage wise, but was able to get a couple of those touchdowns. The bills defense was basically an ocean though the bills have no chance to win when their defense doesn't play. Well. I mean, they really need their defense to play well to have a chance in these games. They didn't. So they were in a bad bad way. I mean, this this game was never closed. Marlin Mack, ran over. The bills defense can't say I was expecting that. I mean, the Bill is actually ran a decently even though the Shawn McCoy left the game, but Derek Anderson probably played some okay moments, but especially late the turnovers, not good and the bills get blown out. Can't say, I'm very surprised. But I mean, I thought it'd be more competitive than it, but I really liked to call. In that game quite a bit. Houston Texans or the sixth team since one thousand nine hundred seventy that have won four straight games after going. Oh, and three. They knock off the Jaguars twenty two seventeen and Ross. The Jags outscored ninety two twenty eight and our last three games. This shocks me. This is one of the most surprising results of the entire season. It really is. I mean, first of all Shawn Watson took a bus to the game because they didn't want the risk of him having to take a flight with the partially collapsed lung, but he's then he's able to play an NFL game. That's kind of amazing, isn't it? I wanna give the Texans. A lot of credit though. I not only that now. I think they would win this game. I thought that they would get blown out in this game, but the Jags couldn't run the ball. There will several drops which hurt them. They really couldn't move the ball. So they benched Bortles Doug Marrone did, and I think it was really just to try to get. Some kind of spark to win the game as much anything. And I would tell you that the star of the game was actually Lamar Miller as much as anything else. It was Lamar Miller's ability to go ahead and and control the action kind of amazing. Nobody was expecting that Lamar Miller out of nowhere was like the star skilled guy in the game, and Deandra Hopkins didn't have a lot of all you, but at a touchdown, had another big catch and did what he needed to do for his team to win another game. Kerryon Johnson rushed for one hundred and fifty eight yards in the lions thirty two to twenty one win in Miami, right? I mean, that was really the game, right? You know, the lions controlled the action with the run game. You know, the dolphins. I think Osweiler was not as good as he was last week against the bears. He was okay. And Kenyan Drake did have a long touchdown run, but they've got issues right now at the wide receiver position. They're already supposedly trying to trade devante Parker. Now, Albert Wilson, Kenny stills gets hurt that didn't help us wiler and the combination of that and the lions being able to pound the dolphins, which I think was a really smart strategy by the lions also because of the fact that the dolphins played that long overtime game the week before or probably a little bit worn out. And I'm feeling has at least one hundred receiving yards in each of the Vikings, seven games this season. Only one other player in NFL. History has done that to start a season Charley Hennigan from the nineteen sixty one Oilers anyway, the Vikings over the jets, thirty seven to seventeen well feeling is automatic. He's incredible. He is one of the most automatic skill guys in the NFL right now. I think Zack urge is probably another one trying to think who else is in that category of just every game. They find a way to deliver cousins was solid despite the fact it was really, really windy. And I was wondering how many times if ever Sam darnold at USC has had to play in conditions like that. He was up and down, did some positive things, but ultimately, you know the three interceptions and so that's going to be tough for them against the team like the Vikings. They can't run the ball and it's Wendy, and you're putting it all on darnold shoulders against. I like the Vikings. I just don't think he's ready for that and the Vikings though. I mean they won, but it came at a cost, both Anthony bar exam, your roads got banged up. So we'll have to keep an eye on a monitor those. Carolina Panthers overcame a seventeen point deficit to beat the eagles twenty one to seventeen Philadelphia. Now three and four on the year. I cannot even imagine it is going to be unbelievable this week on eagles on the WIP radio stuff in Philadelphia that I do. I mean, it's gonna be seventeen nothing. Carson Wentz was thirty thirty seven for over three hundred yards. Two touchdowns no interceptions and they lost the game. I mean that's insane and I'll give Cam Newton so much credit. He was incredible and very, very clutch, including that fourth intended Torrey Smith late. He was awesome. And the eagles defense could not get a stop to save their life late net game, even though the game was at home. This is yet another, but definitely the worst brutal loss. For the eagles this year. Ace Janelle, canton zero kicked game winning fifty nine yard field goal with a minute. Fifty left in overtime. The bucks over the Browns twenty six twenty three. By the way, the longest game winning field goal in overtime. Since the regular season overtime rules was announced in nineteen seventy four. Here we go Bri we're going into the kickers triangle right now with these next few games that we talk about. I mean, catton's aero missed a forty yarder at the end of regulation which would have wanted he missed an extra point, which is part of the reason why the game even went overtime and then he's able to make a fifty nine yarder. Are you kidding me? He was able to do it so good for him. They're only really in that position after peppers fumbled in overtime to real peppers, the Browns. We're going to get their chance to win the game. This is the fourth overtime game for the Browns, which is ridiculous and really. The only reason why they even got back into the game bribe. Baker Mayfield was awesome late in this game, and I would say for Browns fans, one of the big takeaways and things to feel good about is that you've got, you've got a quarterback and he's clutch, you know, like he plays his best when they need them to. I think that's obviously a really, really good sign moving forward. Meanwhile, the other side, this was like the most standard Jameis Winston game ever. This is what James Winston does. He had some bad turnovers but put up some big points. But ultimately this time his team came out on top and really for the Browns. They were led by Chubb and Jarvis Landry, but the penalties killed them the miscues for the bucks. I mean, both coaches or a disaster in their own way. I mean, it was neither one of these teams is is legitimately good. Let's be honest. Drew Brees became the fourth player in NFL history with at least five hundred touchdown passes numbers, five hundred, five hundred one help the saints to twenty four, twenty three win over the ravens. I cannot believe how this game ended on multiple levels. I mean first of all, you have flacco getting it done and marching the ravens down the field when they needed it to put him in position for the game tying score. And then my brother from another mother, Justin Tucker misses an extra point and I would submit to you guys this. There's no way he misses this without the new rule and he's still should have made it. So there's no like excuse there. I mean he's still needs to make it, but I submit to you are we glad that this game ended on a missed extra point Lega we happy that we have this new rule and that that's that's how how they lost. I would submit to, you know, but. Whatever. 'cause flacco got the job done, marched them down the field. I thought breeze, you know, for an away game at Baltimore against the best defense in league. I thought he was very solid. Speaking of salad Brian, how was depressed? Box food passback food was very solid. In fact, I will not give it an a plus because they did not have the crab cakes at halftime, but it was it was a solid, a minus b. plus a minus. Let's see before before the game started, they had it was it was more of an Italian meal with stuff. Shells chicken parm Meatball sub. What else do they have? I mean, it was it was just solid halftime. Chicken tenders pulled pork sandwich and bags of m. and m.'s or peanut Eminem's. So I mean, you, you can't go wrong. That was it was it was quality. Well, clearly the choice there is peanut Eminem's anybody that just got the regular Eminem's is a loser that either has a peanut allergy or doesn't realize how much better peanut m. and m.'s. It's not even close. I don't understand people that would even consider just getting regular Eminem's, but I digress. That sounds legit. Right. That sounds like an a, I mean, that sounds like if it were, I understand you can't give him any plus at the crab cake, but, but it sounds pretty legit almost as legit as the Saks underwear I am wearing right now. Yes, get that visual image. Everybody. I am laying in bed still here in London in my. Hotel room recording this via my phone via Skype, wearing my sacks, looking down at my sacks right now. They look awesome. I'm wearing blacks. I think these are my long leg quest, Saks underwear, the ballpark pouch. I'm incredibly comfortable. I told all all the listeners that were there after the game. I told him I am wearing Saks underwear right now. Tom, the gladiators said, prove it. Obviously, joking, but Yemen. I wear it every day. It's the real deal. You get five dollars off plus free shipping on your first purchase. When you use the promo code Ross at check, Saks underwear essay, ex- ex- underwear dot com. That sacks with two axes, use the promo code Ross at checkout, Saks underwear dot com. Promo code Ross. Dallas Cowboys are owned four on the road this season after five yard snap infraction penalty. Last second field goal by Bret mayor to send the game to OT when off the left upright. So the Redskins get the win twenty two seventeen. And you're right Ross. It was your third game in a row that we're gonna be talking about kickers, and it's here we are. We are right in the middle of the kicking triangle right now. Incredible and more hits the the upright just brutal, right? And speaking a brutal. I mean, part of the reason why they even had that chance is Alex Smith ran out of bounds. Inexplicably the real story in this game I thought was the Redskins defense. I mean, Ryan Kerrigan got a huge trips act, which presents myth back for a touchdown. Jon Allen and Doron pain were everywhere. All game. Zeke Elliott couldn't gain going. Dak was getting hammered and really other than the Gallup touchdown, the couch. Did very little ofensive -ly. Meanwhile for the Redskins it was another win and another win in which Adrian Peterson ran for at least ninety five yards. Like I talked about. I don't really. I wrote about in my column at the Atlantic old man running backs, man, Adrian Peterson, Ganda done by the way. Sean Lee is amazing. He is an amazing football player. I don't know where the the Cowboys defense they would have really struggled without him yesterday. The LA Rams are seven hundred for the first time since one thousand nine hundred eighty five Todd Gurley another three touchdowns in the win over the forty Niners. This was surprising. Thirty nine ten the Rams one. I was not expecting this seven sacks for the Rams was like four turnovers for the Niners. I mean this was total domination start to finish. The Niners are already beat up now Brita gets hurt again. Reuben foster gets hurt. Again. Todd Gurley is got to be up there high in the MVP race and the Rams role, which I was not intimating. And finally, Sunday night football, Patrick Mahomes twenty two touchdowns in his first eight games of his career. That beats the Mark of Twenty-one by Kurt Warner chiefs all over the Bengals forty, five to ten, absolutely incredible. I was not expecting this either. I thought the Bengals were at least now. I thought after that hard-fought Steelers game, I did not envision the Bengals going into Kansas City and winning the game. I thought they'd be a little more competitiveness other than AJ green. There was very little in the way of offense for the Bengals meanwhile, for the chiefs Kareem hunt was amazing. You already mentioned Patrick Mahomes, incredible, and the chiefs just roll. I mean, those last two games make clear as day Bri that the chiefs and the Rams I think are clearly the two best teams in the NFL right now. It's incredible. It was a brutal day in the NFL. So before we close this up, of course, on a Monday, we need. Medical minute time, Dr Chow will. Here is the Monday week, seven recap. The Shawn Watson was not reinjured in any way, but he still had to take a bus, a twelve hour ride to Jacksonville from Houston in back because of a partially collapsed, lung air pressure of a flight could could have made that worse. So the team arranged for a rock band style bus to take him to the game, and back he won in is not hurt further. So hopefully this will be behind him going forward, including the short week and the following week, the Denver game he should be able to fly without any issues. A few running back injuries. The biggest one being sunny, Michelle, it's still yet unknown. What is injury is an MRI is pending. But to me by video, the left knee injuries should not be season ending. So let's hold out hope for a meniscus tear or something simpler where he can return. This season injuries may have finally caught up to. Breda. He's been a warrior playing through injuries, but yesterday he reinjured his left high ankle, and I think it's finally time where he's going to miss a little bit of time to finally get himself healthy Leshan McCoy avoided a serious ankle injury, but suffered a concussion in. He is now in the concussion protocol. Also tight end rob gronkowski did not play due to a back issue. Don't panic it though. There's no indication that the back issues related to his previous disturbers from college in two thousand sixteen, hopefully it's something he can recover from much more quickly in. We'll have to follow that. Well, that's a wrap so far for weeks, seven injuries. Thanks for listening. You guys are all fantastic. I realize you can't all meet up with a degree man pub, but those of you that made the effort to go ahead and meet up with me. Man net ma- into lot. We're done. I think we're done here. Listening to the tanker football podcast, make sure to subscribe to the fantasy feast, even money and the college draft podcasts, all available on items at Ross, Tucker dot com, or wherever podcasts can be found.

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Another Update, Courtesy of C-Lo

Boomer & Gio

15:31 min | 2 months ago

Another Update, Courtesy of C-Lo

"For over a year buzzfeed news reporters anthony cormier and jason leopold had been reporting on president trump and his campaign ties to russia breaking major stories and trying to follow the money. We had both been fantasizing about this mother load. I remember anthony was like. Oh my god. Oh my god. They'd received thousands of secret government documents. The reveal the banks all over the world had moved money for terrorists and criminals and drug dealers and the us government knows about it we see actual human beings pulling the levers that allow this sort of criminal misconduct though on amazon gracie. Join me for our new podcast. Suspicious activity inside the fence then files. We'll dive into the story. Be secret documents. Tell and take you behind the scenes with my colleagues buzzfeed news as they reported it. I've never seen anything like it in my life. Find it on. Radio dot com apple podcasts. Or wherever you got your shows. Earthmovers area lifts compaction and concrete equipment forklifts and a whole lot more skywards lineup has whatever equipment. Your construction job demands. Let's skywards help. Take your job to the end zone to rent purchase or schedule equipment service. Call eight seven seven six zero one fifty. Four thirty eight visits guy works. Llc dot com or stop by one of our convenient locations skywards the official equipment rental company of the buffalo bill. You know the back after this. You know the yeah. He was up early tweeting at us and he wanted me to ask you a very specific question in relation to last night's monday night. Football game and lamar jackson. Okay did you ever have to go during a game. In the way that people expected lamar jackson to have gone even over the he said it was cramps and nothing else. I've never had. I've never had to go poop game. Okay never but i have had to relieve myself throwing a game all right in in a big time moment. Did you get yelled at by the coach. Something like that. It never got yelled at by the coach. But i told you once that like what we used to do to rookies go. I normally. what would happen. Is you'd go behind the bench couple guys of grab some towels and you would go like in a bucket on the right Of course you couldn't make it to the the locker room this enough back in the old days the old days. I can't even believe i'm saying that. Bag the stadiums those those locker rooms are so far away so he had the right so if we had a rookie rookie that had to go. We hold up the details and then we dropped houses. He's got nothing to do with me very much expected yes Yeah that's But that's incredible so your your long streak of making sure that you never go in a public place goes back to your playing career. Yeah well what would happen as i just had a normal routine. Sure that after pregame meal it just natural. Yeah and i always had to go before the game. That was kind of like a thing ritual ritual whatever you routine ritual so. I never had that situation but i can understand if that happened to him. Last night saying had cramps get an iv said cranston. An iv fluids saw the way he was running see. Here's the problem the video. Espn had the video of him running in the holes of going in the locker room. And there's been lots of us who have been in that particular situation and that's the only time we've ever run like lamar jackson is. Ron is just like that. That's why i mean ceelo is denying it but it's true. I mean i have done that exact run i have as well in fact i did it this morning. If you want to write quite honest digit yes so it's amazing to me. These people like boomer that can avoid these situations tire life. I don't know i just turn it off. That's i don't even worry about it now. Geo the other day when i brought in the bio ask the gone and everything and spraying studio. Ju said man. I gotta go and you know took the gun. I had into the bathroom and he sprayed the bathroom before you went. I did spray. They soak that toilet. Why not. I thought that was a good idea and good use of that now. I mean i was one of those moments. I had no choice and i have such a long commute home. Like there's no way so it's either either public bathroom or pants situation. So i took that gun. I soaked the toilet and that was s. Yeah but gee you. And you're you're healthy and everything's fine. Oh yeah no totally. Yeah i mean well. We'll incubation periods. Not up but i did take tests yesterday. So yeah what's going on there so you say just the running part i get. That's what it looks like. But if he's cramping wouldn't that cause you to do grants he. I said it was in his arm and then he also i think said they're basically just had in general cramps in general semi guy. My guide dog chow on twitter. All over this stuff noted that when he came back out he had a bandage around his left arm. Non dominant arm where he would get the. I know i believe in then fine. I'm just saying it's not. It's not that forfeit. No not far fetched. Of course. I believe. Lamar jackson reason lying. When i see lamar jackson i i see a guy that has about two percent body fat. Yeah for sure. I can understand how he could be cramping and you know he's coming through covid nineteen as well dehydration. Hydration start the app brought in his ass off all night. Even like guy played hard last night all over the place to change cleats. i hold. he's probably not drinking as much. Yeah probably or it could be like odell beckham. junior does not like water. Remember that conversation again. Yeah does not enjoy water. Onto shame is a first human being ever to roam this earth who doesn't like water aright ceelo's here with more stuff on that game everything else. What's up is a lot of football to get to. So let's do that. Ravens did beat the browns and a monday night. Classic forty seven. Forty two nine touchdowns. As of course i fell asleep after your camera back or move to different like shot. Why what's the same shot his yesterday this to him. It's literally the same shot knows off the screen when we do a split screen your noses off screen. Yeah there you go. That's okay moving away just turned it a little bit but is a little tight. Maybe move back just a little bit. Well bet you know what it is. The mike elbow here arm only goes so far. so i've got it at maximum. Maximum stretch maximum. Yeah so you know and the guys. Tv probably hate me right now is like no. They don't care they love away for me. Sure just just a little bit better because pimples on your foreheads. And there's no pimples on my forehead. I'm also trying to keep my buddies here behind me in the shot right there. Everybody's there with breaks here now. I don't know how long that's been up. I know he was there yesterday to jerry. Was that up with jerry last week. The fact that craig's in there now you know he's been in there. We have a bad day. I guess i didn't notice that by me. And then the jonas brothers and their manager who call the woman on the air. I swear i gotta woman. Oh i got a couple tweet saying it was susan waldman actually kind of a little bit of resemblance it but Anyway all right ceelo so of course. I fell asleep late third quarter when the ravens were up. Fourteen thought the game was enhanced. Very much surprised to wake up and find out. I've missed thirty five points in the fourth quarter including abed beat a very much so especially considering the way. The browns rallied in this game. They tied up with sixty four seconds to go but it left enough time for lamar jackson who had already miraculously returned to the game as you guys outlined and they get down the field and give the best kicker in the game a chance mortgage the whole tucker's kicked is traveling down the middle. It is long enough and with co seconds left to play the pays. Our jerry sandusky ravens radio justin tucker money in the bank. Powell missed one at the end of the first half an easy one yard field goal in an effort to brown's the kicking has just been abysmal throughout the league in many places in the justin tucker is quite the opposite. And then you get a bunch of laterals on the final. It ends up a safety and a ravens cover so tough if you bet. The browns last night and a half. That's one of those like that. Wager was somebody's at least somebody's last wager of their lifetime. Because somebody's that. I can't do this anymore. And when they lost that. I saw somebody bet. Like forty grand on alternate spread. Cleveland plus four and a half. Because you you're thinking they had that ball around the twenty five to go all the way that far backwards for that safety and to lose that play is as bad as it gets you. I challenge you to find me a worse. Beat than that horrendous. I mean at least this year and maybe in the last ten years i get some wild ones in college here and there but nfl wise. Yeah that's pretty bad. And what a night it was for jackson. He ran for buck. Twenty two touchdowns completed only six of his first eleven passes for eighty one yards. It really doing nothing through the air. Then he goes to the locker room comes back just in time for fourth and five after trace mcsorley went down with a knee injury. That looked pretty bad. So jackson runs out on. The field. scrambles hits hollywood brown with a forty four yard. Touchdown pass twitter's ablaze with speculation. Of course everyone thinks that mother nature called for him. He says not the case justice to pass his throw by william mark. The overthrow in telling coach. I'm you get some salt in my system. So he did and returned with that bandage on his left arm. Took over the game from there. He hit five of his final six passes for eighty two yards and the score the media though in the bathroom anything back right. You'll just allow talk on social media. That will carling jong and like the back. Oh and even responded to a few tweets about it until everyone they're tripping so in any event of wild game to be a part of says his head coach john harbaugh people wouldn't believe they would say it could never happen. You know i don't know about. No reality is stranger than fiction. Or whatever that saying is that's kind of what it is here. I mean it's just it's crazy. it's not buying that gene. I mean as a football game. That hadn't exciting ending. I dunno if somebody presented this script. Someone say this is unbelievable. I mean if someone presented the script of his strength and conditioning coach exhibiting cove nineteen symptoms. And then going into work without a mask. That's actually hard to believe but the ending of a football game being exciting. I think i would believe. Think john harbaugh the last month. It's been hell. Yeah all the distractions all the guys on covid. Nineteen is quarterback being missing having a play with rg three and trace mcsorley. And then you know the last two games. Now we see the real lamar jackson been missing. So you know they're going to be dangerous. They're going to be difficult to deal with to eight and five still very much in the afc playoff picture. Browns fall to nine four. But this answer here from first year. Head coach kevin stefanski goes to show why things feel different in cleveland. Right now guys. Battled i really am but i just look at all the stakes that we made and we got to correct them but you know for us to reflect on week one that week thirteen. I think we're really at that mine. And that was in response to a question about how far they've come since losing baltimore by thirty two points in the season openers. Obviously he's holding his guys to a higher standard next up for them will be the sunday night road game against the giants at metlife stadium. Here's joe judge yesterday. Further grilled about playing daniel jones in the loss to the cardinals. Feelings didn't change after sleeping on it. He was able to protect himself yesterday. And no there's no regrets. There's no second guessing. We took a lot of time discussing things. Scenarios with dockers coaches making sure that the best position for the team and that's decision. We went with move no setbacks. Dj things. i feel like joe judge down the road of. He's a successful head coach. We'll go back and say you know that first year that whole thing daniel jones at his hamstring. I didn't do a good job with that. This is one of those things that he thought he is in the moment doing the right thing But probably when he steps back after the season or may be years down. The road says probably not the best thank district. Libya burning. Coming back to play the giants. Now you have things. Allie you also have myles garrett so you're talking about a team that does have pass rushers your and can he comp- kenny protect themselves. That's the big question you know. I don't know and by the way speaking of schedules this week. Don't forget we have thursday night football. That's the chargers at the raiders. And then we have saturday. Nfl football buffalo at denver in carolina at green bay. Yeah that's right. Saturday december games. Nfl tradition bright now. We're getting into thursday saturday sunday and monday football game. The more the better in my eyes The plan is for jones by the way to start again. Even if he has limited as they continue to feel that way with the giants. Meantime sam darnold on conference. Call tug at the heartstrings. A little bit in the midst of this miserable season the questions about his future have certainly begun as the jets. Close in on the number one overall pick darnold still believes he could be the franchise quarterback here and does not want to leave home depot around here I love living here. So you know. i've always said it. I want to be a jet for life by that decisions. I necessarily at the man. So that's how i feel it. What do they call that that stockholm syndrome. You know when you're stuck in a place for so long that you fall in love with your captors. That's where i think what's going on here. I think there were three women. Based in cleveland for twenty years. I think they were saying the same things. Sometimes you just lose your mind. He knows deep down. He just has to be scraped away But deep down he knows at a better place for him is anywhere but where he is now and he'll realize that at some point so good for him saying the right things i guess but he knows that he can't stay here and he won't stay here and it's not gonna work out. How about them now. They're going to go back to the west coast. Play the rams they were what thirteen and a half point or maybe ended up fifteen point. Underdog sunday at seattle seventeen point underdogs this week against the rams right now so obviously no one has much faith in them. And why should they after they just got their butts kicked out in seattle. Very good ceelo short here. We do appreciate it. But i don't want to get going here in this bad direction with the with the brakes again because We'll get yelled at on goto meeting with mark. Chernoff was very conscious of these things these days. So no more forty five and fifty ceelo. Just so you know. We're putting our foot down here with the update earthmovers area lifts compaction and concrete equipment forklifts and a whole lot or sky works. Lineup has whatever equipment your construction job demands. Let skywards help you. Take your job to the end zone to rent purchase or schedule equipment. Service call eight seven seven six zero one fifty. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 732: The Moment That Led To The Worst Fantasy Football Beat Ever

GSMC Football Podcast

1:35:49 hr | 2 months ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 732: The Moment That Led To The Worst Fantasy Football Beat Ever

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the golden state media. Concepts football podcast. Latest news on and off the field. Be it college football ten. Sec big twelve pac. Twelve acc to the nfl with got you covered. Listen to the golden state media concepts football. Podcasts Took me hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the g. s. mc football podcast as always the gmc. Football podcast is brought to you by the great great. Gmc podcast network. I ev your host. Keivonnis zalmay comebacks. You on a jam packed. Tuesday thank you for listening to us. However you're tuning in wherever you're tuning in and whenever you're turning in we really do appreciate you making us a little bit part of your busy busy day in so much. Leave us a comment. Leave us a review. Hit me up on twitter at cave on underscore sports. Tell me how much you love me. Tell me how much you hate me. Either way will respond. And i'll definitely will give you shout out on the show. What a day. What a day. We have today in the sports landscape wanted nfl weekend. I mean all some games all around capped off by the greatest game of the twenty twenty season arguably the greatest game in the last four three three four years on. You know what comes to mind when you think of all time. Monday night games. You think of that. Schuss rams game a couple of years ago where we had. It was on monday night football. That was win. The rams went to the super bowl that year and that was mahomes first year as a starter both teams were lighting it up under mcveigh under andy reid. Mahomes jared goff both teams win for thousand yards. Well we had something special offer on monday night as well. Twelve total touchdowns ladies and gentlemen swell touchdowns in the game nine of which were running touchdowns i mean. It was just back and forth drama. L'amour leaves lamar come back. L'amour play superman. It was seriously water. The best games that i have seen in a long long time and it was a love. Hate relationship for me. It was a lot hated feeling for me because one. I was very happy to an amazing football game. I am a sports fan. I love football. And i will take any type of game like that any day of the week any day of the week and i will stay up and i'll be tired the next morning but i won't care because i'll be happy that i stayed up and watched that game from start to finish so that was the happy side. The other side was i had liberal. I have the ravens as a bet so very happy there because they ended up covering on a very bad beat for the people that bed. The browns all last second kickoff browns have nothing they can do but try and do the whole lateral fifty thousand times. Get lucky to maybe running. Back somehow Well they were doing that in the ball like it always ends up doing under these circumstance goes back into their end zone safety ravens end up winning by five instead of three. I cover great for me bad for lot of other people but i would have rather traded that than what happened to me. Okay ladies and gentlemen. This was the worst fantasy of all time and not only does it suck that i've lost in fantasy in the playoffs was supposed to be going to the championship. Not only was i the best team in this fantasy league from start to finish finish first place but what makes it. Even worse is that. I lost to my good frayed by arch-rival be ray be rate. Be ray be ray. I lost him and nothing makes me more mad than losing to that guy because he won't shut up about it which i don't blame them because i would shut up ballot if i about them but listen to how i lost this gentleman. I we go into monday night. And i have been exactly an eight point lead. Okay boy eight you know. It's it's like eight point two. It's something like that. He has right so so. I have it up in front of me here so i can read it off right so he had one ninety seven point six six and i had two of six point one. You know so. I was up by nine points while i was up by like eight point. Five right so he had if he got nine he wins the game because we both would have had to revoke would have to. Oh six but he'd have to. Oh six point. Six six hour have chiro. Six point. One so really. I had to get him to eight. He had to get eight. He had justin tucker left. Yes ladies and gentlemen now you all know what happened. He had the baltimore. Kicker justin tucker left. Well i'm already worried because justin tucker great kicker. We're going into monday night. You know be race trying to play all this reverse psychology bull crap on me. Where oh. I had no chance of winning. You're going to be me again. And i'm sitting over here like this guy is setting himself. He knows what he's doing. He's a little sneaky mastermind guy that he is and he bugs me mad. He bugs me so this so so we're going into money. I am not talking to. I don't want anything to do with be ready right now. The game kicks off and it's a high scoring game. I mean back and forth back and forth. But i'm loving this. You know why because every single field i mean every single touchdown the justin talker just has to kick an extra point which is just one point saw. I want baltimore to keep score. Touchdowns i do not want them to get stopped for field goals only touchdown shoot score seven touchdowns for all i care. That's only seven points for him does not man you know. I do not want him to score field. Well it's going my way. I mean so far. It's been four four touchdowns zero fugel so he has four points. Justin tug as four point. So i've winning by five. It's in the fourth quarter baltimore. Then scores one touchdown right. So that's five touchdowns this is what it starts to get jeannie. Justin talker goes to keep the extra point and it gets blocked. So i think oh. Let's go that's minus one because it's a missed field goal. It's a missed up extra point. Why go to look in this league. That be ray is the commissioner in. I must add does not do minus one for block. It's only for missed well. What's the difference. Hong both is amiss. But no the kicker actually has to miss it on his own ridiculous so right then i start saying oh my god this is set me up. This is set me up. So did i feel a little bit relief right because i'm up for points. Libor leaves the game because we'll get into that just a little bit leaves the game. So i said oh. Let's go he's gone. They're not going to be able to score much. With tracy mcsorley out there but i also had mixed feelings going on because i wanted the ravens to win the game. Well we get with about two minutes left. And the browns are playing grateful ball bakers. Look in the part. He's really kevin's too. Fancy is dilated. Been that guy is a great coach. And we're gonna get into all of this game guys just man. I just have to express distorted real quick and we're two minutes left. You know the the ran the excuse me the browns down. They take the lead and they'd the ravens have to comment score. Drive the game's over and again trace mcsorley is still out there that the quarterback from penn state. Well they get down to about the raven or the browns forty yard line. They was like maybe the forty five yard line fifty yard line. So they're down one at this point. Okay so i said oh my goodness there. It's fourth and five there on the it would be like a sixty two yard field goal. And i'm like they the moore's not in the game they're gonna kick this fuel go right now and they're gonna win the game and i'm gonna lose. They're going to win the game by two. I'm gonna lose my bet in lose to frigging be rain fantasy well. L'amour comes heroically everything but a cape on pretty much out of the locker room. Iv bandage you know on his arm. You can totally tell that he was just getting fluids pumped into because he's been cramping all night he comes in. It's a must score it. I mean it's a must convert on fourth and five you have to convert this or the game is over. And what is lamar do. He doesn't just convert it. He scores a touchdown he throws a wide open past two marquees brown touchdown again. We're gonna get into all this in-depth of actual the football side of things. So then i'm like okay. Wait for two so no extra point here. No point for beer. I'm like let's go. This is awesome at this point. There's only like a minute left in the game right. So they go for two. They get it which puts him above seven about a minute. Twenty seconds left in the game. And i said i'm up five points. The ravens are up. I'm sitting here beautiful baby. I'm gonna win my bet. I'm going to beat this. This fricken arch rival of mine. Who i also love as my as my great friend beard. But i just i want to beat them. Beat them of and i'm like let's go. I am sitting there happy. Well little do. I know that the baltimore. Ravens d is completely inept and they cannot stop a fly if they wanted to they lead baker mayfield and the browns drive right down the field and i want to credit the browns and baker mayfield because it was great great execution on that offensive side of the ball but come on baltimore defense they drive. All the way down they score touchdown they tied the ballgame up seven seven thirty seconds on the clock left. And i kid you not. I pick up my phone and i text be ray some words that i cannot say on air right now and i said it exactly said beret. You one watch what is about to happy. I promise you la more in the superman hero that he is going to drive the ravens down all the way to the forty forty five yard. Line and freaking justin talker is gonna come out and he is going to drill a fifty five yard field goal with zero seconds left on the clock. And you're going to beat me fantasy to go to the finals and you are not going to deserve win. I told her. I said it just like that with a lot. More language that. I cannot say but that that was the gist of the tax and of course be rate trying to be this mastermind reverse psychologist genius. That he thinks he is. He doesn't respond right. Which makes me even more right. I want him to respond. And say yeah going to beat you ha ha or saying or at least through the thing he always does. Are you kidding me. There's no way no but what does this guy he doesn't even Spine also. I'm sitting here on a walking back and forth at this point. It's like midnight. I need to get to bed. But i can't. I'm going crazy walking back and forth. I'm looking at my phone. I wanna throw it at something. I want break my tv. And as i slowly see the ravens first down i down dry dry. Oh a pass half you'll on the brown side of things. Oh twelve seconds left. Oh seven seconds left. Spiked the ball. Justin talker comes out. Kicks the field goal game over keivonnis fantasy season over just like that. It was literally the worst fantasy. Be of all time and you will make it even worse. Beer has a brother named drew. And jews are fantasy league as well. And i snap drew and i said drew. Did you just see what happened. Did you just see how i lost. And he goes. Yeah i did Woke me up because he was screaming so hard that guy that guy goes at just get so excited any weights his own brother up and he wins and he wins. And i'm going to have to hear about that forever. And it was the luckiest win in the history fantasy. And that's just my walkways and gentlemen. That is just my luck. So i wanted to tell you this story because you might not like it you might get. I don't really care. Because i needed to talk about it because it was really weighing on me. I mean i had a problem working yesterday. Because i couldn't get it out of my head so that that's where i stand is not a great week for meat now. Luckily i'm in a couple of other fantasy leagues where i didn't make the finals. Otherwise i'd be straight up. If that was my only and i was out in my fantasy seasons were over. Because of that i would be a mess. I still am bess. I'm still very mad. Look fantasies the real deal here. Are we take this stuff series. This is for money this is you know this is for bragging rights and it's not only that you lose you lose it fantasy. You want to lose to someone where you're like you know it's aride. They deserved that when they're probably not going to talk much trash out. But when you lose to a guy like beret ladies. I know you don't know but you might know him a little bit for. How much are talk about him. On the show be ray is a patriots fan. That's pretty much all i need to say. So you know he. He's always winning when it comes to a sports team He he hasn't really endured Endured what other this year. What a losing. Nfl season is like for twenty years because he has the patriots fan and he's a guy that will not stop talking about this ten years later. you know. we'll we'll be hanging out with our kids about my kids in his kids won't be at the park yourself. Did he'll tell you. Know my little johnny in his little susie the story of win he beat uncle cave on a guarantee in fantasy. And that sucks. That really really sucked so now. He's playing our buddy. Brendan and i am all in cheering for britain. I mean i'm talking. I'm going to be given brennan fantasy advice. I'm going to be his frigging second manager over here on sunday so that britain beats be right. That is my story of the day. I hope everyone's having a great day themselves though. I hope your weekend win a little bit better than mine. I hope you guys enjoyed your football. We have so much to talk about. I cannot wait. So i'm gonna open up segment number two talking about the game that we saw last night because i really want to use that entire segment to talk about that game. I'm going to focus first on l'amour and the ravens side of things and then i'm going to switch it to the browns. Thanks because both sides need to be talked about it really was an awesome game. All around the players deserve credit coaches deserve credit. It was a meaningful game which is great. Blow teams are fighting for a wildcard spot. Vote teams are fighting for the playoffs. The ravens they have to win out pretty much to make it so if they lost this game their season probably would have been or would have been very very challenging to make it. This is how good the afc is all ladies and gentlemen this year. The ravens could go eleven in five and they might not make or the ravens are going to go eleven five and a team like miami or indianapolis who go eleven five or ten and six might not make it. 'cause remember the ravens have the head to head over the colts because they beat the colts. The browns have the head to head over the colts because they beat the colts. So that's gonna be interesting when that comes into play. I mean all of these games now are so crucial and the reason why the ravens are set up in such a good position because their schedule is is as easy as it could be these last couple of weeks. They just beat the browns then. They have the jaguars at home this weekend. This coming sunday. Then they have the giants at home and then they go to the bengals so their last three games. Jaguars giants bengals. They shouldn't win all those games. I think that they're going to dominate those games. Where they head into the playoffs. Look like a very scary team. A very scary team. I would not be surprised. You know if a lot of you guys have. Lamar is your quarterback for fantasy. And he hasn't been doing great all season. I know he's been a big disappointment. If you held wanted him he might win. You your fantasy league because he went off last weekend last monday night here and the he's most likely gonna go off again. This air next week because of the matchups that he has so. I fully expect the ravens to finish with a five game winning streak beating the cowboys beating the browns and the jaguars giants bengals go. Eleven fought which looks at okay. Well what does that mean for the rest of the teams in the hunt because we have so many teams in this. Afc wildcard plant right. I'm the at this point. The bills are tinted. And yes the. The dolphins are eight and five but it looks like the bills know. They're playing so well they already have won one game against the dolphins they do play again but it looks like the bills are going to probably secure that. Afc east which means dolphins will be fighting for a wildcard spot. The bills might even jump into that second seed because of the way. Pittsburgh is free falling right now. So you have the titans at nine and four. They are in the lead for the afc south division crown right now but the colts are also at nine four. And they're tied up. They split the two meetings against each other. So one of those teams are one of those team is going to win. The south one of the teams is going to be fighting for wildcard spot. You have the browns and ninety four. The dolphins a five the rave. Five and the raiders at seven and six. The raiders are on the outside looking in even if they went out. They're going to have to have some help. They did beat the browns one on one but they lost to. The colts wants so that that's going to be a little bit of an issue within. They do have the dolphins down the stretch so that could be a big factor for them if they can without a and knock out a couple of the teams that they're playing that are in front of them on the way but the ravens are still going to need a lot of help to get in. So it's gonna be very interesting right. We'll have to see how things go down. The stretch here on miami had played a very good game against kansas city. I told you guys on on saturday. I said listen last week by best bet was denver plus fourteen against kansas city. And i said this week by best bet is miami plus seven against kansas city. It took a miracle. It took a last second field goal to cover. But it covered ladies and gentlemen if you listen to me. I'm making you simoni. I'm telling you right before Anything you don't have though obviously. But i'm on the money this season. I'm having a great great season picking these games so we're gonna take a quick break when we come back. We're going to die heavy into the wild monday night. Football game a game to remember but the question is what does it mean for. Both teams right. The browns looked great. The browns really look like on the up and up but they still can't get over the fact that they can't be the older brother. The division rival is that an issue and the ravens are the ravens starting to turn the corner and look at that fourteen two team last year or is it a little bit of a false narrative because of the teams that they're playing. We're gonna dive into all of it right after this. Do not go anywhere. This is the gsfc football podcast. I'm your host on. Zombie will be right back after this. Are you looking for help your fantasy football team check out the gsm see fantasy football. Podcast get ease. Best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's gsm podcast. Dot com backslash fantasy dash football dash. Podcasts we'll cover traditionally dynasty few pr. even i periods. When you need fantasy help there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs mc podcasts dot com for more info Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. This is the gmc football podcast. I am your host cave on his mommy jam-packed tuesday fun fun fun of college sports as we now head into week. Fifteen week fifteen lays gentlemen. We made it. We made it. Give yourself a pat on the back. Give yourself sire relief because we've had fifteen great weeks of football and we get four more great regular season weeks and then we have excuse me. Three more three more regular season weeks and in the playoffs happened so we are really just stephen right through. Got an awesome scheduled this week for with week. Fifteen i mean a thursday night game divisional battle los angeles chargers. Las vegas raiders In that beautiful. New las vegas stadium two teams that you know chargers are out of it. Are they fighting for their head coach. Anthony lynn. i mean. It looks like they like him I kind of think at this point. He's probably gonna but you never know and las vegas. They're still alive even though they've been slipping lately they they fired their Their defensive coordinator after sunday's loss to the indianapolis colts their defense has not been able to stop anyone. They have good talent on the defense. And it's the distorted out. What's better but jon gruden was not happy with it and i don't blame him so he fires paul gunter which is his good friend. They promote Raw millet who used to be the cowboys defensive coordinator for a while under jason garrett. So we'll see if that sparks spark a change in their defense then. We have two big time. Saturday night games this week guys saturday. nfl football. Can you believe that. gosh. I love it. We've got the buffalo bills at denver. The red hot buffalo bills are denver. Team who let's face it. you know they. They're not having the season that they wanted but they they know how to turn on sparks here and there. I mean they. They really do. They go head to head with the kansas city team. Keep a seven point game all throughout the night a couple of weeks ago. They ended up losing of course but but they keep it entertaining. They they play him. Really close off. Then they go. And they the carolina. Panthers i mean they just drew lock. Looks like a good. Nfl quarterback at sometimes then. He looks atrocious. At other times it should be an interesting game. I like that to be a high scoring game in denver. And then the nightcap on saturdays carolina panthers at green bay packers the packers right now to me other than the rams are the best team in the nfc there so consistent. They're not getting the price that they deserve. Devante adams and aaron rodgers are on our own a connection right now that is like any other of the nfl. They're just automatic. Davante adams is what he's doing with the football. What aaron rodgers is doing. What matt leflore has done with that team. Since he's come in it's it's been tremendous and they are the second best team in the nfc to me all behind the los angeles rams but right. Now they hold that number one spot because they have the head to head against the saints and the saints slipped up in a very crucial loss to philadelphia. Dad is gonna come back and bite them because of that loss now. They have kansas city. This week i don't think new orleans will get that number one spot back. I think that this spot is for green bay to lose now. And i don't see green bay losing another game this season so i think green bay will head into the season with the number one seed which is so crucial this year because only one team gets the by which is the number one seed aid. Yes there's no fans in the stands but for teams to still have to go into green bay during january is it's hor- it is horror to win in green bay. January fans were no fans. You're not used to that cold weather. They are and and that's going to be a crucial crucial win for them. If they can hold onto that number one spot so got a thursday night game. Got two saturday games and then got a jam. Packed sunday rounded out with a monday night game that that will not be anywhere near as good as the monday night game. We just witnessed. But it's the pittsburgh steelers at cincinnati which is a division game always for division game. And it's gonna be interesting to watch to see if pittsburgh can get back on track as they have now starting to slip and lose two in a row speaking of monday night. Let's get into it. One of the best football games that i've seen since that wild rams and chiefs game With a thousand yards of offense. That was pretty much you know. Just offense offense. Offense was just you know two teams going head to head to toe. Patrick mahomes jared goff was awesome. But let's look at what we saw monday night. I mean could. We have asked for anything better. You had everything. You need you to divisional rivals. To-to-to two quarterbacks from the same draft class baker mayfield number one la more with the last pick in the first round right to quarterbacks for the same draft class that are both looking the part right now granted looking the part in very different ways which is so interesting to me. We'll dive into that. Two teams fighting for playoff spots to teams fighting for playoff positions. A team in the cleveland browns. The hasn't made the playoffs since two thousand six. I think it's the longest street in the nfl. Longest playoff drought in the nfl. One night of football. It was crazy. It really was crazy. And there was sued. There are so many takeaways from it there so many takeaways from but lamar jackson and the way he was running the football and look. He's not a very accurate thrower if he's ever going to be inaccurate but when he starts to scramble and essentially play backyard football it. Because that's what he's doing when he's running the way he's running you know just going in circles around these defenders running in and out of the pocket losing ten yards on a run but did come before you can get tackled coming back up and gaining thirty. I mean he is playing back your football and would he's running that way it's essentially on stoppable. Not kind of it is unstoppable. I mean what do you do. You know the safety they see him scrambling around this was this was the fourth down play by the way he scrambling around. This is on a game winning touchdown to Would brown but this is after. He had to leave the game earlier due to cramps. And i was watching this game. I truly did it that he was going to come back in. I really did. And i know all the all the memes out there about how he was taken approved. And this and that which it's all fun stuff in and you know we kinda wanna roll with that narrative of taking the because it's funny right but he wasn't taking a poop rj he. He came back for that fourth down play he had. He had a wraparound his arm. Where you could tell just got an iv. Because he was cramping and he witted. He got that id and in. This is what is just remarkable to meet. He comes back in on that fourth down play. He hasn't played the last two times. The ravens offense was on the field so he wasn't loose anymore he wasn't warbed opted more came on in their one. Play hatch converted or the browns wicked and instead of just converting the fourth down. He goes forward all those touchdown. Hollywood brown i mean it was super man type of stuff. It really was a you know on that play. He starts to take off. And you know he's going to get the five yards when you start to take off just see you're like okay. They're converting to get five yards. But if you're the safety you gotta go try and make a play. So the safety pools up and in lamar stops throws a. It's it wasn't even like a beautiful door. Kinda just lofted up in the air to a wide open hollywood brown and then after that there you go they score the touchdown they go for to tie the game and you know i find this so interesting we and this is really important. We tried to we. We we try to make. Try and push lamar jackson into this traditional quarterback bowl right. We've been doing it. Ever since he got drafted and he's never going to be that lease gentlemen. There was a play in the game on monday. Night where lamar had his tight in. Mark injures running a deep route. I think it was in the third quarter. I think it was about four or five minutes into the quarter and you know. He stepped up in the pocket. He avoided the raw. She did everything perfect. And we went to make the throw. He overshot injuries by fifteen twenty yards. And this would have been a walk. In touchdown a wide open in touchdown from our dangerous he wide open. It's a throat where the law should be able to make an asleep. Any probably has made that through a no. He's made that throw thousands of times. But when i saw him miss that throw by that much. I said to myself at that point. He's never going to be that guy that we all want him to be at least a gentleman. That's okay like that's what. I want to be very clear about here. We have to stop doing this as people in the media and fans to. We're trying to turn the more jackson into this person that he is not. He's not going to make all the throws like a peyton manning. Tom brady drew brees. Or you know a matt ryan someone that you sits in the pocket in does that. It's not going to do that but you don't wanna use gonna do. He is going to be that back. Your quarterback he who is impossible to defeat who is going to be that electric quarterback who can take it sixty yards to the house in a blink of an eye and as long as he stays healthy as long as he. Has that extra gear where you can run away from people. That's what lamar jackson's career is going to be. And at this point. I gotta stop criticizing him about not being a traditional dropback passer. Because i don't think he ever is going to be that and that is okay. Look i get their concerns to his game. We can go through those at some point but today is not the david do that because he was superman last night and he deserves the credit. And you know it's funny like we try to eat. Allies these qb so much and you know what escapes the analysis. 'cause it's weird. We look at quarter. We look at differ. Qb's and we attach some type of characteristic to them right. We do this all the time. Whether it's a cerebral characteristic or scrappy characteristic or an athletic characteristic gird heuristic. But you know something that has not been talked about enough when it comes to the more and this was really illuminated last night. You don't hear anybody say this about more but how intensely he wants to win. It's probably assumed but how intensely he wants to win. And how fires he is fiery he is with. He does something that either leads to a big moment that puts you in a position to win or when they actually do get the win like i love when he scored guys probably remember this when he scored the rushing touchdown and he just started the the football at the browns like wall and it it hit the stands hit that wall and it came back and he called it. A you just chucked it so hard. I love that type of energy. And and i think that's that's great you know. I think there's not a real intimate association with the barge jackson's need to win. Everybody wants to win but he seemingly needs to win and that needs to be said a little bit more often than it really is. Because i feel i can. I'm sitting there on my couch. I'm watching the football game. And his passion is energy it so electric you can really tell that gravitates teams. They fight for him. They love him. That's why last year when he was on that historic. Mvp ron you had working room. Come to open up his press conferences. You don't like he's his bodyguard. Like dave love this guy they go to bat for this guy and that's something that really showed out to me a lot on monday night and i think it's something that i i immediately when i was seeing it. I have my notepad next to me during these games as you guys know. I stated so many times on wrote it down because it's something that needs to be said because it's a characteristic that not everybody shows. It's a very positive characteristic. Something that that that not all these quarterback shows everybody's gonna state that they wanna win right. Everybody's gonna show no excuse me wrong. Everybody's gonna state that they're going to win not everybody's going to show that they're gonna win and some people might fake shows that they're going to bed they wanna win la more intensely shows that he doesn't just want away but he feels he needs to win. He feels he needs to win. He puts pressure on himself and for the majority of his career. He has shown up and he has gotten those wins. What did i was great. All around it was it was it was absolutely great all around like that's the type of game that makes you love watching football because it's almost like you expect something out of the great players on the field or at least who we've been told are the great players on the field and in this case baker mayfield. Lamar jackson jarvis landry. Jk dobbins they all fall into that category as well. You're told this guy's got to do this. This guy's got to go through that. And then they do it the entire game. That's what football is all about at there really is what football is all about. I think it's why we watched some of these other. You know highly touted players in in. Let's be real most never quarterbacks. We watched them. We watched some of those other. You know highly touted players. Where again most report quarterbacks but others are not and last night you gotta give baker his props to he showed up as well he really really did and with both. Qb's with two teams that have so much to play for show up like that it turns into a game that we will talk about for a long long time and it certainly the best game of twenty twenty so far it really was and it was fun. You know you had twelve total touchdowns nine of which came from the run but you know what was great about it. It wasn't a sloppy game. It was a highly efficient game. I mean there were zero. Defense played on either side of the ball right but sloppy tackles breakdowns wide. Open place all that stuff. I know all that was raw offensively. It was very efficient. You only had one turtle one turnover and that was the interception that baker through in the in the early third quarter. I think it was. And if you don't ever see a game with twelve touchdowns in only one take away by the defense. That just doesn't happen in pro football and by the way the interception of that baker did throw was probably one of the best interceptions will see all season it was really impressive credible. Played linebacker did like a somersault type thing and yet he called. It had the awareness to get up run after that. It was a very athletic play by that baltimore ravens linebacker. But i wanna get into. This aren't this is something that really really impressed me. And i love the after the game or the next day to sit down and listen to coaches press conference not not the whole thing but just little things that they say sing with the players. You know the highly touted players hear what they say how. They act as leader. Not and i wanna play a sound. That cleveland browns head coach kevin pants he said after game which by the way kevin stefanski dirt deserves some serious consideration. For coach of the year. He has done a tremendous job with this team off with the cleveland browns teeth. But but kevin spacey came out right away. We saw this in other games. Where you know jarvis landry throws throws a pass itself he throws a pass. Dour throws a pass to baker and baker. call day we saw with landry. Did the same thing again. Last night he throws a pass. it was completed. You you see all these elaborate misdirections run schemes and movements and present movements like kevin vance. He is doing very interesting things. And you really gotta be happy with bats. Eat if you're a browns fan you have to be and if i'm a browns fan i know you also gave i. I know that sucks. And i know you heard about it but listen to your head coach not try and reach for that whole cliche silver lining after the game. I absolutely love this. Here's kevin stefanski. Battled your name renton but i say reflects wonder that i love that. I love that he's saying right here. He's saying 'look proud of the guys. They battled they did well. But what's the point of us looking back and saying yeah in week one. We lost thirty six two six. Okay now it's week fourteen and we did you know we. We lost by five in a tough game. Let let's give us a brownie points. Now he doesn't want that he doesn't want that and it's easy to get up there and say you know we got our head. We should keep our heads up. We got our butts handed to us in week one. We showed tangible palpable growth. On as we get into week fourteen. Now we got so close blah blah blah and the coachspeak. No but the fact is that he wasn't accepting of that. That's what i would love to hear. If i'm a cleveland browns fans today today he believes this team is better. He truly believes that they are ready to beat the baltimore ravens. Now not take steps forward doing that. And a he wants to beat him now and he believes they can't beat them now and that's what they are trying to do. But the fact remains all you got you all that stuff you love the way they play but look we also got to be serious here. We we have to say give prosser processor do but we also have to understand that the fact remains as much as you love what kosinski had to say and he's one hell of a job. You're still against the baltimore ravens this year and your own one against the steelers and he got beat down by the steelers one In that first game so for for all this growth which has been again. It's been great. it's been palpable. You can see the grown. It's tangible they feel like they're winters rather than a team that was a franchise that was always on the precipice of doing whatever is required to lose it. It's the opposite now but still euro in three against your rivals and that's one of the first days you'll hear every coach talk about this. All the time is especially at the beginning of the season. It's not look with the super bowl. It's not. Let's make it to the conference championship game. It's not let's win nine ten games. No it's what's division games and go from there. Let's win our division games. We can steal a couple other games down the road and they will make the postseason if you win your division. Your in the postseason. That's always how coaches start. And you know. I think the browns can get there sooner than later but eventually you have to do over the hulk. It beat those quote on quote older brothers of yours that you have yet to be. You know but listen. We're going to dive more deeply into the browns and together monday night even more later on and what they can do big picture this year. What is their ceiling. Big picture this year. We'll get into that. But i wanna to give more attention to the ravens okay. We started the show tone about lamar jackson. I wanna dive a little bit deeper into lamar and the ravens. Were gonna do that right on the other side. They'll go anywhere. This is the gmc football. 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Podcast don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs mc podcast dot com for more info. This is the gmc football podcast as we intersect mitten number three quarter number three two more segments to go on this jam packed. Tuesday whenever however wherever you're listening to this show thank you so much for just taking a little bit of time out of your day to check us out listening to the show giving us your thoughts your ideas you love us you hate us keep them coming seriously just getting some really really great content great comments i should say an content from all of you guys and gals out there Comments good off suggestions been great and content to tell me what you wanna talk about. what i want me to talk about things you want to bring up on the show and we're doing that as we go. You know we got a lot of talk about okay. Now that we're starting to get you know three weeks left. Were starting to get a real clear idea of who's going to be fired. Come black monday. We all know black. Monday is the is the ruling in a tough day in the nfl. Where coaches gm's get fired. There's always the obvious ones. And then there's always a cpr to every year. There's always a surprise right. There's always okay. We know all right. This these fires have already happened. Right falcons fired. Gm and coach off the jaguars have fired their gm. Most likely will fire their coach. The lions have cleaned house fire. Gm and coach as well as the houston. Texans had fired their gm and their coach. So which was one person by the way. Billy o'brien was both which was ultimately his downfall. So you get to you. We know those are coming. We know the new york jets. Aw firing head. Coach is coming. We all believe that they will keep joe. Douglas their gm. I think joe. Douglas has actually done a very good job for what he has had to inherit and what he's done so far. I mean look jamal. adams didn't wanna be there if you've got two first round picks for him that for safety data amazing on the draft picks that he has made so far. Looks like they're going to be very good. Draft picks mci becton that beast line of align out out of louisville. He looks the part on. He has one of the best pro. Football focus rookie rated grades. Out of all rookies denzel mims the wide receiver took in the second round out of baylor. When he's been healthy he's looked very good That's a big thing of winston healthy though because he's been injured a lot but he has looked good so that that's all we believe joe. Douglas will stay now. I've heard a lot of people say well. How do we know that. Adam gates is getting fired like why would the jets not fire him already. Lazy gentlemen adam. Gays is getting fired. Okay the reason they have it fire. Him already is simple. They want to keep losing football games. They do and everybody knows what happens. When you fire or head. Coach an interim coach comes in. It brings a spark to the players. It does you especially a team that struggling so bad like the jets. Are you get a new coach out. Even if the players like the coach that they fired it does not matter when a new coach comes in it always brings a spark to the locker room it always does and that will inevitably caught on. You know calls you to win win games and as crazy as that sounds because we're saying in a bad way it's true and the new york jets. Do not wanna win games. I don't care what they're saying but in public but in private they don't want to win games and that's why they are keeping adam gates all the way until the in adam gays will be fired. The jets will most likely go. Oh and sixteen and they will get a new head coach. They will draft. Trevor lawrence all right so we know those are the openings the ones that most likely we feel like will happen. Los angeles chargers will will the chargers owner be reluctant to maybe not pull pull the lever and in fire anthony. Lynn does he kinda wanna navy. Cnc one more year out Anthony lynn done a decent job on this year and last year have been a struggle but remember he went twelve and four went head to head all the way with the chiefs a couple years ago when he had rivers and things have slid off a bit. I personally think that they should. They should let him go. I like anthony ladies. Good guy good coach. But that you know that you've hit on your quarterback young star quarterback and justin herbert. I think it's best to pair him with someone for the future. Bring in an offensive coach on pair him with justin herber moving forward. Some question marks cincinnati bengals. Will they fire. Zac taylor taylor's in his second year now. He want to games last year. he had to. He has to win this year now. Unfortunately for him you know last year he had andy dolan who was on the the major decline and this year he had joe burrow when they were very competitive in in pretty much every game they played almost and they joe burrow had that that very rough injury so you know because of that injury will they kind of let him see it out with joe burrow for a little bit longer that that's something we'll have to look at. I believe the dallas cowboys. They will keep mike mccarthy. They'll give him a pass this year. Jerry jones is not someone to pull the trigger right away. So i think they're good denver vic fangio will vic fangio keep his job. I like vic fangio. I think he's a very good defensive coach but can he get things done offensively also though you could say well. Has he gotten enough help to do. Things don't offensively. What do i mean by that john. Elway looks like he missed on another quarterback drew lock win. Will john elway be able to bring in a legit quarterback for this franchise. I mean these are serious questions that we have to ask because john elway has it been able to get it done so on chicago bears. Matt nagy will chicago clean house. I fully believe they're gonna fire. Jim ryan pace. Are they gonna let nagy. Walk as well matt nagy. If that's the case he will be highly highly coveted on the open market. I get it. He's made some rough decisions this year. One of them being playing. Nick foles over Mitchell trubisky when they started out three po. Look in hindsight pulling the pin mitchell. Trubisky in that atlanta falcons game was the right move but pulling him for the rest of the game after. That was the wrong. They were just not getting things done with nick. Foles mitchell trubisky was three zero and even though they've been playing snow lower competition these last couple of weeks. Mitchell trubisky has looked awesome. he really has. He's looked very good. Not not turning the ball over throwing three plus touchdowns moving with his legs. He's looked good. He's looked good where maybe awards than to give them. A one year deal. Maybe warrants them to bring matt nagy back. I don't know detroit. There's a lot of rumors about them wanting to bring in robert solow defensive coordinator for the forty niners. Could that be something that we see see happen. Maybe possibly tampa bay look tampa bay. They're gonna make the playoffs but they have higher expectations than making the playoffs. And let's just be honest. The the coaching has been poor. Bruce arians has been poor. And if they don't make it to at least winning a playoff game i would even say making it to the nfc championship game. We could see goodbye. Bruce arians income. I don't know josh mcdaniels. Let's say possibly it could happen. But but for the ones we i sure know. We're gonna need a new coach in detroit. We're going to need new. Gm in detroit. We're going to need a new coach in atlanta. We're gonna need a new. Gnma and a lot of rumors going around about atlanta. With louis riddick coming is in the gm. As as a resident falcons fan on this show. I would absolutely love that a lot of a lot of talk about you. Know airbnb as the head coach. He can't go wrong there. he's been awesome awesome. Awesome awesome under on offense coordinator under andy reid for a long time working with patrick mahomes working with those weapons he has. He is a great gonna be a great head coach. he personally is not my top choice. If i could make the decision for the falcons which obviously i can't I would. I would more likely go with someone like in. You know i. I like airbnb. Don't get me wrong. I will not be wrong on just a little bit worried of because has so many riches there in kansas city. He has so much at his at his pov in kansas city. When he goes to routine in any team he goes to is not going. You have kansas city level. Talent or level quarterback mahomes at least not in the beginning. They're not so how how's he gonna. You know work with that and again. I think he's going to be a good offensive coach but on. I'm very high on a lot of different offensive young minds around the league. That's the way the league is trending. And i've been very high on a lotta. Those guys guys like joe brady offensive coordinator of the carolina. Panthers was the o off. It was the coach of the lsu tigers. A couple years ago where when they won the national championship in had one of the best offenses. We've seen in college football. I'm very high on him. On very high arthur smith the offensive coordinator of the tennessee. Titans who has really turned around town hills career and has that offense just exploding peak core. Michael listen pete. Carmichael is a name that is not mentioned enough. He is in his twelfth season. Ladies and gentlemen is twelve season as new orleans saints offensive coordinator twelve seasons as the offense coordinator this offense this year. It's been a little bit down but this has been one of the best offenses in the years in the over those ten years twelve years so the fact that he has not gyn head coaching offer at. Maybe that worries me. Because maybe something's wrong. I don't know. But i mean i would love to interview him and see what happens So those are some names that i that i think would be great for coaches. Like the atlanta falcons the new. Excuse me the on houston texans. You know teams that have their poor backs or going to be looking to give rookie quarterbacks and go towards that offensive trinh a guy that i think would be very interesting to pair. You get terry on fontenot. Which is the assistant general manager of pro personnel for the new orleans saints. Maybe you team him. Up with joe brady urpi carmichael on joe brady remember. He was offensive assistant for the saints before he went and took that lsu off so maybe you tepe team some of those guys up so they already have a relationship. I'm hearing a lot about The the guy. That was really one of the i guess you could say the builder the masterminds behind building. Not just the kansas city team but also the cleveland browns teeth and. That's john dorsey. I mean look. We look at this year. John dorsey the gm of kansas city when they drafted patrick mahomes. He was the gm of kansas city when they drafted tyreek hill. You'll he drafted almost all of that roster other than the last two years that kansas city has And then he goes to cleveland and he's the gm that brings in baker mayfield. He's the gm that brings in jarvis. Landry he's the gm that created this offensive line that they have. He's the gm that drafted nick charles. He's the gm that brought in kareem hunt. Denzel war the the quarterback out of ohio state. Yes he drafted baker mayfield as well. Who looks like kevin stefanski might be turning him around so that you know. There's a law rumors about pairing him with airbnb. Since he was the gm of the chiefs when enemy was is still he still. Is the offense for air. But he was obviously there as well. When dorsey was there he only thing that worries me about john. Dorsey as he clearly has a. Hasn't i don't want to say attitude issue but a cultural issue you know he. There was a lot of rumors issues going on with kansas city. He couldn't get along with people and couldn't get along with the head coach all that stuff so he left in a you know he comes to cleveland. He can't get along with many people there. He ends up hiring on freddie kitchens which ended up being his biggest his worst possible but he put together a really good roster. But just that that hiring of kevin freddie kitchens really. You know you can't do that you just. You just really can't do that. Rick smith on former gm the houston. Texans guy drafted shawn watson. I think that he will be for a lot of candidates for four jian jobs. And you know you've got fred. Reggie mckenzie reggie. Mckenzie was the gm of the oakland raiders. Before may out. Mike mayock and jon gruden took over mckenzie you know they drafted derek carr. They drafted khalil. Mack drafted amari cooper under his so a lot of big named guys out there. That are going to be super interesting to see what happens. You know there's the rumor that if wherever robert solid goes he's gonna bring mike mcdaniels as his who's like mcdaniels. Mike mcdaniels is the offensive run game coordinator of the san francisco forty niners who have one of the best offenses in one of the best run games in the league. So you know that's a good parent. All of this stuff is going to be so interesting to watch as we head down the stretch. So we'll talk to that more. We'll talk more as we go. We're going to dive into some college football. Talk in in segment number four here. We're also gonna talk more about on the saints and their lost to the philadelphia. Eagles was so crucial. It was so so crucial. Any really has put them in a situation and it just made me realize once again about what i was saying. From all the beginning they've they're gonna be a great regular season team and come playoffs. It's just not going to be enough. And i'm gonna tell you why that is next segment as well but i want to finish talk about lamar jackson the ravens and monday night football game. You know. we'll dive more into the browns. As i said as well but you know we started talking to show about lamar and i look at the ravens. The one thing that i think is just. It's so unfair to lamar while it's on his resume until it's not it's here i get that and that's that's how it's gonna be. It's gonna be a stain that he doesn't play well in the playoffs and he has he now has to go back and he has to play well for their resume for that stained come off the resonant you go back to the first chargers playoff game the first playoff game against the chargers a couple years ago he. He didn't play well he was a kid. He was a kid that you go back to last year against the titans. He didn't play well. He was a kid he still is a kid. But you make it to the playoffs. Well you're good enough to make the playoffs. Why can't you play well in the playoffs. That's always going to be the question right. That's always going to be the question. But i think that we should start to give him a little bit more of a pass than we have been. Look at least until it's not fair any longer right. You know you keep doing this. You keep being putting all these stats up winning games in the regular season and then come playoff. Tiny keep losing will then. That's when we start have to start saying okay. It's it's not fair to give this guy passing anymore but we're way too quick to pull the trigger and and just criticizing crucified. The these young quarterbacks for not winning in the playoffs when the fact of the matter is they're getting them to the playoffs now. Eighteen would die to have a quarterback that could just get their team to the playoffs year in year out. He's a kid. It's going to take time. And i get that i get the whole. This is what we have to do. This is how we criticize. This is how we judge our quarterbacks because they're the ceo of the team but there's a limit you know there's a point and and when you when you're a quarterback that when your quarterback that has twenty seven wins and a total of seven losses in your entire career. When your quarterback that has sixty touchdown passes and sixteen interceptions in your young career. You know you're only three seasons in. This is his third season. This is. He hasn't even finished his third season yet. And the guy has twenty. Seven wins seven losses. Yummy franchises would kill to have that type of record in two and a half years that we were when you're putting up those type of numbers when you're putting up the wins. It's okay to take some time you don't have to win the super bowl right away. you go. it's one thing to start criticizing these two v.'s. Early if they can't get you to the playoffs right. If they have the town around them they have the good coach and they can't get you the playoffs. That's one thing. It's another thing if he's obviously getting the playoffs even though he doesn't have that watch talented him. Let's be honest. he doesn't he doesn't have top receiver. It doesn't even have any wide receiver one on his team. Hollywood brown is good young receiver. But let's be let's be real. He'd be a number two and even a number three on some teams. He doesn't have that number one guy and he's still twenty games over five hundred right so and i get this like that with if you subscribe to the thought that lamar because of his unique throwing style is never going to win the playoffs. I get that. That's you're already putting that thought process in your head and you're not going to change that. But i think it's unfair. I think it's unfair. Even if it proves to be accurate over time and it could. It could one day could. There's something to be said for seizing. The moment connecting the dots and climbing a little higher up the mountain and last night was one of those monday. Night was one of those nights where you start to connect the dots and get a little higher. You get closer to ever as you get closer to the mountain against a good team and a very hot team. That was rolling in the cleveland. Browns he was superman. And there's just nothing to say today negatively about one more and we have to understand. He might not ever fit into the box that we won't quarterbacks to fit into and i'm not just talking about this year i'm talking about in the postseason. I'm talking about maybe. He just doesn't possess that skill. Set the right. You know the right the the right way. He of throwing the football his throwing mechanics. Yes he has unique arm slots and yes he can make throws that a lot of people cannot make and you know do things with his legs in scramble and key plays alive. That that other quarterbacks would would die to be able to do but there's a traditional like throwing mechanism to make routine passes without having to think about it. Lamar doesn't have that and it's evidenced by the throat. We were talking about on monday night. You know the deep over route to mark. Andrews is something that they run every single game you see them complete either. The seam or the deep over routes mark andrews every single game and moore's inconsistent with it and so he might just never be that got but that doesn't mean that he can't be a winner and that he can't win in the postseason and that he can't maybe go on some magical ron and get to the super bowl but it's just gonna be a lot harder. That's all in the ravens are going to have to do a great job surrounding him with the right talent with better weapons. That's what they're going to have to. Because when you think about the box that we need quarterbacks to fit in that quote unquote box that we always just try and shove every quarterback into and if they can't fit into that box in every single specific angle that we we we criticize them and this is the fact though unless you know you have unless you fit into that box or you have a superstar league defense it you know. It's hard to say you can win the super bowl and right now. The more doesn't fit into that box. But you know what. He is talented enough where he doesn't have to fit into that box or you know why he can fit in that box in a different way. Maybe he'll be a little too big for that box. Maybe he'll break the box. Maybe the change the league and the league will is growing more towards his type of running style and that athletic electrifying quarterback. They want to try and turn that way. You're not gonna find this many type of quarterbacks you're just not lamar's special. Moore's not not a normal quarterback and again he can make throws that others can but he's just not the traditional thrower of the football. He doesn't have the traditional Mechanic stat at you know you want your quarterback tab with his arm but again it's okay. It doesn't mean that one day he still won't be able to get over the mountaintop get to the peak of avarice and win that suitable baltimore. It's up to you to keep putting the right amount of talent around him to get him. Some better receivers keep that offensive line. Good build a build up better defense which you did over the off season it's been it's been slacking. As of late lot of injuries. I get covert. I get that but you gotta get the defense better and you gotta get him some more weapons and you have to keep them healthy. If you can do that. 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Ravens had to just win the game on a last second fifty five yard field. Could it be a forty five one and it was so close when the ravens were driving down with a couple seconds left. Lamar jackson hit Mark andrews the tight end very good in on this outlet and he was running a he had a good twenty yards ahead of him. He would have probably got down through the thirty thirty five yard line and He was just going in last-second one of the browns linebackers. I forgot who don't and tripped up his feet where it was only like a tin your stead. If that linebacker doesn't make that play. I win the game and i win the freaking fantasy football game but instead now i'm sitting here. No fantasy football final for me in that league. Fortunately i'm in some some other leagues on but we will talk all things fantasy football on saturday as we will bring in at wineman of course hurts the gmc fantasy. Football show will talk all things. Fantasy will get you guys set up for your for your fantasy or for your free fantasy football playoffs for get your roster set and there will go over our best bets it then to I we've been hitting real hard on the best bets. I don't know who i if. I like anyone in that thursday game. If i had to leave. I would probably lean on the raven the raiders at minus three. Because they had more to play for the chargers. But the raiders have just been all over the place on this this last couple of weeks here. So it's it's really hard to bet on them and usually i would say whatever game. The raiders are intake the over but now since they fired their defensive coordinator just like we were talking about with an interim head. Coach know the jets doled. They're not firing adam gays because they wanna keep losing. They don't want an interim to come in and bring that spark right same thing with the defensive coordinator though net there every game. The raiders have been in. The last three weeks have gone over because their defense can't stop anyone. Well now that you fire your dc you bring in a new guy that might spark some energy in the defense. They might play better for a game or two before they go back to their to the norm of. Just you know being a bad defensive team but it will it will get them pumped up for game two. That's why i'm a little hesitant about the over on that game. So we'll look into the saturday remember. We've got two saturday games. You've got the denver broncos in the buffalo bills the hot hot hot buffalo bills go ten in three. Lamar jackson just looks better and better by the game. Another quarterback out of that two thousand eighteen class baker one. Sam darnold three. Lamar six. Josh rosen ten and lamar jackson all the way down at thirty two remarkable remarkable. So josh ballots. Been getting better and better by the week. It's been awesome to see that in another guy who probably will have a lot of he. You know he interviews for head. Coaching job is the bills offense coordinator brian. Cabell who's done a tremendous job with josh allen. He's got his completion percentage is. He's he's worked on his mechanics his accuracy and he's got better every year. And you gotta give brian cabell. Props for that sean. Mcdermott as well sean. Mcdermott is a really really good coach. So that's name to watch out for end in the night game on saturday. You've got you know you've got the carolina panthers heading to green bay now. This is a good transition for me to talk about the green bay packers. The green bay packers are now sitting at ten and three and they are in the number one seed they are the number one seed at this moment for the nfc right there. Ten in three the saints are ten in three as well but the saints lost. Remember on that sunday night. Game at home to the green bay packers so the green bay packers have the head to head. The saints really screwed up by losing that game against philadelphia. They did they did. Because now the packers have the panthers. The titans both home in the bears. I don't see them losing any of those games now. The titans they been strong. The titans have been playing very well. That's a sunday night game. I still don't see the packers. The packers have been tremendous alright. So in all likelihood i think the packers hold onto that spot the saints. They have kansas city this weekend. In less they can pull off the upset. Which i don't see it happening. Then i think that the saints lose against so they'll be ten in five or excuse me ten in four and then. They play the vikings at the panthers. Vikings one is no give me give me either and that's actually on christmas day by the way which is really cool. That's a four thirty pm kickoff. On christmas day you know the. Nfl is just trying to own every day of the week here Which which is going to be awesome for us though but that game will be. No gimme either. Because the vikings are also trying to revive for a playoff spot of so look if they end up beating the chiefs. They've got shot in that one bag even though i again i don't see the packers losing a game i think specifically because the saints lost to the eagles they are now done by. They're not getting that number one spot. I don't see it happening. Now the packers could slip all. Don't get me wrong. Boy if the saints loves to the chiefs this weekend. Which i believe they will. Then even if the packers through slip up the saints still will not be able to get that number one seed now other than that. You had the rams sitting there at nine four and the seahawk sitting there at nine and four which is super interesting because they're in the same division so whoever wins the division and the other will have to drop down into a wild card matchup which means they will knock it. You host host a playoff game. The rams already beat the seahawks once so they have the head to head and the rams have the seahawks number that division is so so interesting every team that division has another teams number. Like the rams have the seahawks number for some reason the rams are always doing well against the seahawks but then the forty niners cows shanahan they have the rams number. I mean they beat the. They beat the rams with nick bullets in there. They don't even need jimmy g. in there to beat the rams for some reason they know how to beat the rams really really well every time they they just do. They beat them twice this season. The rams have lost four games in two of them have been to the forty niners who are a very banged up. Football team very injured football team. Probably the most injured team all season. So then you have the rams who also beat up on the on the cardinals mcvay. Since he's been head coach of the rams he has never lost to the cardinals. Never he is undefeated against the cardinals which is so weird. Then you have the cardinals who play the forty niners really well and they do really good against the forty niners. So it's all these mixed match mixed. Nash which is crazy. All the seahawks in the forty niners. They always play each other in those games. Go back and forth so that division so interesting but the rams will play the seahawks one more time. They've already beat the seahawks once they have the jets this week then there at the seahawks and then they ended versa cardinals. I personally think the rams went out. I think they went out and they go twelve four. I think when it's all said and done the packers are going to be thirteen. And three the new orleans saints are going to be twelve in for and the los angeles rams are going to be twelve and four. And then i think washington who has just been really really impressive as of late ends up winning the division the nfc skews the nfc east not the whole nfc off now depending on how injured alex smith is because he did get banged up. Luckily it seems like it's nothing serious. But if alex smith has to lose miss some time that could change in that could change things up and the giants could slip back into that spot on of winning the nfc east. But i will say this. And i never wished for injuries especially for an amazing guy like alex smith who came off almost losing his legs. He literally lost his leg. Almost he fought back and he is just. He's just he's been such a leader the fact that he has been able to turn this team around with ron rivera. Help and get them at six. And seven almost five hundred. You're talking about a couple of weeks ago that the nfc east winter's gonna win like five games. Total while shoot. They might be a win. Eight washington truly might be able to win eight games which is which would be remarkable. So i've logged alex. Smith has done but with that being said. I'm very excited to see dwayne haskins remember. Kyle got hurt. So he's out for the year. So dwayne haskins had to come in last game against the forty niners in play about a quarter and a half and he didn't screw things up now granted. The defense was doing most of the stock because that defense is ferocious. It is real. It is one of the best in the league. They have their defensive line is just causing havoc chase. Young is looking like that amazing rookie than he really was supposed to be. Um he just looks awesome. He scored his first defensive touchdown on the forty niners on sunday. So i don't know you know. As long as dwayne haskins doesn't go out there and lose the game for them. Which what i mean by that is throw interception after interception after interception that. I think they'll be fine right. They do have a schedule. They have to play seattle this week. Though the giants went into seattle on one seattle's come into dc cayenne. the can washington upset seattle. Just like the giants did. I don't know. I think it's i think seattle it's going to be a little bit more alert now that that's happened. But we'll see. They had seattle russell. Wilson have not been playing great football these last couple of months so when it comes to them at six and seven and you got the giants at five eight. The giants still have to play cleveland on sunday night. Football this week at the ravens in their home to the cowboys right so these next two games are going to be very very tough very tough and also is daniel jones really one hundred percent because he did not look one hundred percent last week against the cardinals when they got beat up. Twenty six to seven. So that's gonna be a big question. Is daniel jones really one hundred percent but their home against a very very very hot cleveland. Browns team don't you guys wish. Del beckham was playing when that also odell coming back playing against the giants sunday night football winning winning team in the browns this year nine and four against a much better much improve new york giants team as this last part of the season. That would have been fun. That would have been very very fun but this browns team that they're they're they've been hot. They're gonna be mad that they lost the they let one get away against their rivals. The ravens can can the new york. Giants poll up another upset. Then they go to the ravens. Who's going to be a team that is going to have a lot to play for because they need a win out to make the playoffs as well. You know. the giants might lose three in a row here after we thought that they were on the come up they were going to win the division. They might lose three in a row now granted. We all thought that they were gonna lose to seattle to and they did it. They ended up setting seattle. So anything can happen on any given sunday. That's why we love the nfl right. So i still think the packers will thirteen at three. I think the rams and the saints will win their divisions. And then i think washington will win the nfc east and in the wildcard teams will be seattle will be tampa bay and it's either going to be arizona or minnesota now and in chicago still in as well now chicago. Six and seven minnesota. Six and seven and arizona is seven and six arizona. Curly is in the wildcard spot. Right now okay. Arizona's last three games are home versus the eagles home. I forty niners at the rams. They should be able to go to in one. They should be the eagles. I understand the eagles. Just beat the saints but the saints game play against them. Were was atrocious. On on defense. I have no clue what the saints doing on defense. They played the jaw. Jalen hurts. Who is a dual threat. Quarterback is a running quarterback. They played him like he was carson wentz. They didn't put a linebacker despite him. They did it for some reason. They didn't put to spy in. What do i mean by that if he starts to take off running. That's your man. You're specifically there to spy on the quarterback if he takes off running you go and tackle. If he doesn't you can rush him to sack in that. Like put pressure on it. That's what a spy as they didn't do that. They just brought normal pressure. Like you someone that was just gonna stand in the pocket and throwing and that's why he ran all over that saints so that is something that was was very questionable to me. I did not understand that. But i do think the cardinals will be like okay. Let's take a step back. Let's look at the phil let's do. Let's attack jalen hurts and this offense a little bit differently so i think that they should beat the eagles and i think that they should beat the chart. The forty nine that would put them at nine and six. And i think they lose to the rams the last game of the season and put them at nine and seven. If that's the case they should make that. Final wildcard spot. They should because that would put them at nine seven. Minnesota would have to be now to be able to get to that nine and seven more and they have the bears at home this week. Then at the saints thin at the lines they should be able to go to and one and shoot. They did beat the saints last year in the playoffs. This is on christmas day. Remember maybe they can upset the saints and go three. You know so. They are very viable. I they. They lost to the bucks. Last week there kicker misc- four field goals and extra point or something like that. So that really really screwed them. But they're one hundred percent in shot to still get this playoff spot but they're going to need a win out in less. The cardinals lures a couple of these games. If the cardinals lose to the eagles were the forty niners and minnesota goes to in one minnesota would be in now chicago. I do not think chicago will have a chance of. I do like the way mitchell trubisky been playing but i just think it's a little bit too late for them. They have the vikings. The packers the vikings the jaguars. Andy packers gary can. They beat the vikings. I don't know we'll see if they can beat the vikings this week then they'll have the jaguars win that one and then will come down to candidate beat the packers. To last game of the season will the packers be playing anything. Maybe they'll be resting their starters who knows those are things we're going to have to look for but in the nfc. It's going to come down through that. The the only spot that will be for taste because tampa bay is gonna take the other spot and seattle or The rams are gonna take the spot so it's gonna come down to that final wildcard spot. Will it be arizona. Will it be minnesota or possibly chicago even sneak in. That's what it's come down and then the nfc east washington or the giants right now. I think it's gonna be washington but we'll have to see how that plays out now. The afc is much more intriguing. The afc has way more to it than just the what the nfc has. The afc has about ten teams fighting for playoff spots. I mean that's what it feels like right. You have right now. Kansas city twelve and one pittsburgh eleven into buffalo ten and three tennessee. nine four cleveland. Nine four indianapolis nine four miami a and five. Those are all the playoff teams if the season ended today. Baltimore is eight and five. Looking in. And los vegas is seven and six looking in technically. The patriots are still alive at six and seven and the broncos are still alive and five and eight but you can kind of you can definitely mark those two out because it would take al- almost it would be almost impossible for them now. There's there's a chance so you're saying there's a chance but that that's going to take a law. That's gonna take a lot of help for them for them to be able to get in. So we're mainly looking at the two teams that are looking in right now. Baltimore and the raiders there on the outside looking in miami's eight five in baltimore saying five played each other but for some reason miami is in over them through tiebreaker. Right now i think it's through conference. They're five and four in the conference baltimore's five and five. That could change down the stretch right. If you look at the dolphin schedule they have home to the patriots this week. Then there act the raiders. That is huge. Lazy gentleman at the raiders that is two teams fighting for a spot. Game could come down to a lot and then there at the bills. The dolphins have a very hard schedule home to the patriots. Which is no slouch specially gets rookie. Quarterback's they do a great job at the raiders at the bills. That is three. Tough games the ravens. We've already told you. They have these ius scheduled their home to the jaguars home to the giants at the bangs. You can pretty much count on the baltimore. Going eleven five winning out in less you know. Some crazy unforeseeable happen right suit. Then you have cleveland with at the giants at the jets versus the steelers that lasts game is going to be very intriguing. So cleveland has a chance. Go three now definitely to one right that. That's what it's looking at indianapolis texans at the steelers home to the jaguars. They have a great chance. Go three or two in one. Depending on if the steelers can turn it around very interesting. Las vegas home. The chargers home the dolphins at the broncos. That's a very feasible three no schedule. All of these teams in tennessee. Home new the lions at the packers at the texans. All of these teams have a chance to win out who's gonna take advantage of their opportunities a couple of them after play each other. But i'm telling you the afc setback buckle up. Get your popcorn get your beard. Get your nachos. Get your snacks. This is going to be a fun. Last three weeks of the season as we watch what happens in the nfc and most importantly the afc positional match ups. The afc playoff matchups. Who's gonna wind up. Where what are you gonna end up and what team is going to fall out and be outside looking in once that week. Seventeen season ends. I cannot wait for it. 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Ravens-Browns Recap; Holiday Wish List for the NFL

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Ravens-Browns Recap; Holiday Wish List for the NFL

"Round with the nfl. Snow hustler's welcome to another edition of the around. The nfl podcast. My name is dan. had this. I come soon from a room filled with some virtual heroes. Well they're real. The rooms verge old marks destler. Greg rosenthal believes that time of year that it really hit me today when i looked at the the week. Fifteen slate for the first time and this sunday is december twentieth. Something how about. That game is being played on december twentieth this weekend. Not the greatest week of games coming up by the way just because at this point we can't align ourselves with cuteness towards like little upstart teams like some of them just at this point. They smell bad. They need to be put out and behind the shed to to rot to death and then they rebirth spring. I thought we were sending about to the cornfields and we would you know. Let them have a nice rest of their lives but it sounds like you want to torture and murder them not feel like summer just rotting where there is like the vibrant part of those teams lie. Okay so far martin yeah. Marquette in the holiday spirit of are taking animals behind sheds and murders mark twelve hours after forty seven forty two and we are going to dig into monday night football info but i just do want to say mark right off the bat. Thank you for being here. Because i know there are no promises made on sunday. Show whether if things worked against your brownies as they did unfortunately For you that you would be on the show and yet you're here. Which again just speaks to your professionalism. Well a couple of things. I have nothing else to do. But secondly what kind of scoundrel would i be to just not appear because of football team lost. I think that would be something you could put on. My record is as a negative. So know i intended to be here with her. Lose all right and you are here and we will get to that game We have a lot to get to. Yes we fifteen is upon us In just two days and we will preview. The chargers raiders tilt The raiders last chance to save their season in what has been a very rough not a december to remember by alexis and nissan. So far for the raiders So they have one more chance to save the day We will also with the holiday season here. Offer up our own little wishlists For the balance of the two thousand twenty. Nfl season so things that we you know. We wish to have happen between now. And let's say super bowl fifty five fifty five latino. Who knows i can never. That is one thing where my brain just doesn't work. I can't remember any super bowl. Titles don't like the roman numerals just Just tell me what teams are there. I mean according to the nfl were still in the one hundred years celebration of pro football. So i my math is completely turned around and so weird because it's actually now the one hundred fiftieth year of the nfl. And you would think that you could have a new logo and everything. But we're still rockin with the The century mark for whatever reason super bowl two thousand twenty one is super bowl. Forty five about that nice clean. See great not fifty five fifty five. You're not as like intellect traditional things as i am. I love roman numerals. Lincoln whenever people even patriots ones that they've won whenever they're like. Oh yeah back in super bowl forty seven. I remember my brain can't work. I can't remember which ones which i remember. The years obviously can't do it rumble when they introduced the when they started going with the l. business and it was all bears patriots super bowl twenty x. It's like i can work with that. But when we're getting into weird numbers and numerology out while the beginning of the patriots dynasty was also tricky. Because you had you're at a point where there would be five six seven roman numerals to describe what okay all right. The trank dart. Put that gun. ricky. I'm from a younger generation. They never taught us. Things like cursive in numerous guy. Care cursor younger what does that mean. It means nothing. I know curse. I was taught in third grade. I when when when the nfl by the way when when away from the roman numeral for fifty. They told me they weren't really in on it. Like if you can't do super bowl x if you're not just going to be roman numerals when you give up when it would have been the best one then. You really weren't in it to win into begin your rosenthal. You're so often this greg because fifty is you're not gonna call l. Looks ridiculous fifty is a great round number. Absolutely absolutely go with the number. They're all for that now. Twenty-five made the case that giants bills and ninety shouldn't use the numbers they didn't. They went with roman numerals. That really makes you wonder what happens when we get to super bowl one hundred and we're gonna dig into that for an hour today. I'd guess no reprieve game of week fifteen. We're doing our wishlist. But yes marks officers here and we're gonna talk about browns ravens. Let's go break huddle. With jackson backout castle five at the cleveland. Forty four jackson in the gun five on the wine shotgun snap than five hundred out of the pocket. Pass the hash. Mark numbers feel toast twenty. Why don't put his brother go from touchdown baltimore cabs like that. To make it the touchdown pass a forty yards on believable kevin. Harlan of westwood. One with the call so many unbelievable things from this game but the fact. The lamar jackson returned from the locker room brand on the field. But the raves ahead. Late in the fourth quarter touchdown to hollywood brown game still had a bunch of stuff that happened after that but that is to me what people will remember most about ravens forty seven. Browns forty two on monday night. Football is the disappearance of lamar jackson for the mysterious cramping leading to much internet. Derision his return and then just the wild finish between two. Afc teams that are very much. equals it appears at this stage in time mark Obviously it had to be a roller coaster of emotion for you It went from nice. Start to a to. We're done to. Oh my goodness we're gonna win and then the way things played out. Tell us how you felt watching this game. Like it was a wild night and i chose to. I will say this real quickly. That i watched the first cleveland. Drive the touchdown drive which i was impressed with in my garage because i am very superstitious and ansi during these games when i'm not working and so i ran into. I went in in between the house and the garage like five or six times. And every time i would go into the house to watch the rest of my family the ravens would score a touchdown two seconds later so finally i said enough of this but then i just said enough with all of this superstition. I'm going to go inside the house and watch it with the whole family and it was a roller coaster. Ride for me. I could tell right away. Is i think we all could that. This was the version of lamar jackson. That was mvp level hyper dangerous and totally plugged in and put that against i think cleveland defense where cleveland's defense has a bunch of guys on one year contracts. I'm outside of a couple of stars. They're missing denzel ward there. Back seven of their defense had no idea what to do with lamar jackson. I thought they got. They got tricked. They got schemed on. Not the first team to wake up on monday morning or sunday or tuesday morning thinking what the heck did we do with with ourselves on defense. But lamar jackson fried them from wire-to-wire win came out of that locker room. I think we've all watched enough sports. Where whether or not the football gods range that little moment bit of television magic. I didn't know that it was over. But i knew that it was that seemed to me like psychological shift in a game. That was going back and forth and you write. A bunch of stuff happened after that but something in my heart just knew. This is baltimore's night. And i kinda just chilled in. Watch from that point it was. It was a wild ride. I don't know how to express it in bullet points or briefly. I'm sorry you need to. This is what it's like mark now when the patriots were always kind of in the mix. It's like it was a lot of asking my reaction which felt like i don't know about that. Let's talk about the now that the browns are the next great. Afc powerhouse for the next ten years. You're going to be the focused. Kevin bandeau that all that was one of my takeaways. Though though i think america got to see Why and we'll get to lamar too. I wanna talk about him but that was such a great game. I a fancy thought they were out of it. I don't think they were necessarily even out-schemed on defense because there was a little lamar making places. He went with two minutes left in the first half. He'd been sacked more times than he had thrown passes like the. It was just him like spitballing and running. And that is the toughest and scariest thing to try to stop. So it's a blast to watch. But i love when stefanski goes for it on fourth and eight early in the game. Were an offensive team. We're going to need to score about forty points in this game to win. He knew it he knows his team. They got the fourth down late. They went for the two point conversion when they were down. Eight which put the ravens in a tough spot. I liked even at the end of the first half was super aggressive baker mayfield. Throw the ball. It ended up setting up lamar for a big score at the end of the second quarter because baker had a really poor drive right before the half. But that's what they gotta do. They gotta they gotta go for it because they are an offensive team. They are a great offensive line. They don't need to baber baby baker. And when lamar had that fourth down play i immediately thought they probably would have been better if he had just thrown the short one and they have ran the clock down and had tucker kicked the game winning field goal because the browns are gonna go back and score right now. The only problem was the brown scored two quick basically. I came out of the game on the brown side of things. Very impressed. obviously with their fight in their resolve in the fact that they just wouldn't die but also baker who i've been very up and down on His whole career because he's been up and down player but he definitely has a factor. I think that's one of the reasons why the browns first overall in twenty seventeen and like he's exactly the type of dude you want behind center in a game like that when it just became like this like this to gunslinger just going at it and it wasn't just that they went down the field after that hollywood brown touchdown and tied it. They just went down the field with ease. I mean bringing back memories of that insane chiefs ram shoot out from a couple years ago. We're almost became like the rules of bowl teams and just the logic went out the window. Like if you come out of this game thing. Oh what is wrong with the ravens. Defense against twenty two points in the fourth quarter while. Yeah the ravens. This is not the old ravens anymore on defense but also that was one of those weird special nights in the nfl where you just everything goes crazy and you just sit back and enjoy it because You're watching something that doesn't happen too often. And the only thing. I thought and i check mark i Very carefully texted you later in the night after the game just to touch base with you the only thing i would have done differently and i know it's crazy and it probably doesn't make a difference but you never know. Stefanski had been so brilliant and hanging onions all game. Why not go to when you go down the field and and have the chance to do it and maybe take the lead and then who knows what happens when the ravens get the ball back. That's the only thing i wanted to. You've gone all the way at that point gobert to and just try to steal a one point win in that spot. Forty three forty two. I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean i think like you know. There's logic on both sides of that but it would've fit their daring dna for the night. I mean i. I think it came down to one of those games were more critical mistakes and for as good as baker mayfield's been over the past two or three games mistake free over the last month. I thought that interception was was the deciding. A huge deciding factor. And cody parkey. Who's been money for the browns. You miss a gimme field goal in a pat and you look at how the game ended you know that. Said i mean. I think i point to the kareem hunt scoring too quickly as something that you know. This team's a month removed from nick. Chubb you know being being ripped for it but not wanting to do that and running out of bounds and giving the chance that the browns a chance to run the clock i do. I just kind of feel like if you wanted to look at deep deep strategy the idea of maybe not scoring there and taking it. Down to the marian. It's too hard there. I mean they were. Where would that place. They so quickly they couldn't have strategized. You know what i mean like. This is just one of those things like they went. They went so quickly and that play wasn't even inside the fifteen yard line. I mean that is a play call. You don't expect a scoring if anything. Maybe stansky is getting the first down and bleeding some clock. We don't know but the scored directly. I thought about them going for two there. But i think the you know the the analytics move would be not to and further reason. You saw which is that. It's not worth the juices and worth the squeeze when there's such a decent chance that tucker is gonna kick the game winning field goal anyways you know like you gotta get a stop either way and is it worth that that risk of. Not getting the two. When when there's such a good chance the ravens can go score. Either way. But i i love. It's just i just wonder what happens of mcsorley. Didn't get hurt. Was lamar really coming back. In that game. He said after the game. That like oh i was coming back either way but i don't know he didn't play until mcsorley got hurt and it was literally fourth down like mcsorley and fumbled that play which could have easily app. The game is over. Let's hear from lamar jackson talking about the events surrounding his absence. And in general The wild nature the end of the game on macabre now as as a symbol. Now like i'm still strikes. Me i'm like i gotta give an attitude minuting one. We want to see him. We are you just start running. Kale run with me if fourth now in office. Not body body tail off and guys agreed. Kisses him came out vigor. That allow talk on social media that you kind of like jogging like to use the bathroom or something house. I ain't. I was cramping. I didn't didn't pull no paul pierce greg. You're boston sports. And i don't even know what that references but really they forget. What hell there is. There is a famous celtic. The there is a famous playoff game. Geez was it against the nets but he pulled he got taken off the field in after jerry. Jones share injury pretended that he was her and then he finally and there had been rumors forever that he just had to poop any finally admitted it on. Espn a year ago. So it kind of came back into the news. He's he did. He did say like yeah. I really was just pooping. But the thing is i never. I never bought the poop story because a lot of nfl players tweeting about it and stuff because like what what. Why would he be back there for thirty minutes at the time. He was just weird that he was suddenly able to come back in and then he could run on for like every man and woman a different journey when it comes to that world and some people are in and out one two three and some people. There's a candle there's a magazine out and there's you know there's some time that i don't know that is it's one of those funny like subplots that will always remember When you look back at this data then papa what he said it was crams. You don't know what it was. But i was amazed amazed. That aren't you missed one series. Okay he's going to be back when mcsorley comes out on the field and they're losing. I'm actually a little as a football fan. Because he wanted this game to go out bridges the browns and ravens trading haymakers with their best players. Then it looked like the browns are going to win because trace mcsorley was on the field when it mattered. Most so the way it played it was cinematic really with any hope. Mcsorley is okay when he wrenched his knee there but for him to come in on the field. And then of all things. To throw a touchdown pass. That really was remarkable to simone and the kids like. I don't want them to sneak away with a win with trace. Mcsorley closing this out then. Lamar came back on the field. And i thought well maybe i do not want to get you know. Let's take the crazy part in and greasy kept pointing this out here. Had eighty one yards passing when he reentered the game on fourth and five and he had eighty two yards. More the rest of the way. It wasn't just that one throw which i couldn't have been the only person thinking. Don't throw it like run for the first down like and then you see it's markey's brown dropped everything like don't throw it markey's brown but he. He actually does that one. It's also the next drive where it was a minute left. And you're thinking. I think the ravens are going to do this. But i didn't expect them to do it. Throwing all these out routes which they couldn't complete once the entire game suddenly he goes four for four throwing the ball to set up the win. It really was kind of an mvp. Put the team on my back like. I'm just more athletic than everyone else in the field. I don't know how far that takes us team. Their defence is a problem. I think but they man the schedule sets up. I think this is the game. That's going to get them into the playoffs while their schedule is very workable. And i think. Dan's prediction that they would you know. Run the table to get into the postseason. It will happen and they suddenly look extremely dangerous now that they don't have fifteen players on the list but their defense was look bad against dallas. They they have no pass rush collapse gamble a shell of and former saw and then at cornerback. If they can't get peter's in jimmy. Smith back i guess peter's did return in that game. That was there so much when they had good job by john harbaugh. What's it like to have a good head. Coach call in that time out when the re raves about to have too many men on the field because claes couldn't get off the field they showed like leaning over to say something to harbaugh and collapse looked like he was like sixty five years old. I i don't know if something has happened. And he aged in dog years or something but you looked like a beat up old man at that moment east. Come back from an injury. I think to quickly add this calf injury and he has. He has been pushed around the last two weeks and they don't have much. But i hope you enjoy market. Is something cool that that was the game of the year. I felt like that was the game of the year. And the first to. Maybe it's because of you partly but it's also like the history of these two teams the fact that it's the biggest game. I think that the browns franchise's had in a long time. Certainly one of their biggest ever their chance to get baltimore out the lamar. Like being lamar factor like that. I didn't even before the great ending to me. That was awesome. And i think it's a step in the right direction that the browns earned the the best game of the year in week fourteen and they were right there. At the end it's highly surreal for most browns fans. And i heard the moral victory thrown around a lot and i get that. I think the difference would be. Had they done that. If that happened between cleveland and say the kansas city chiefs. I'm all about the moral victory. But like i lost a few followers a couple of weeks ago when i tweeted a rather heat-seeking diatribe against the ravens when they lost that Wednesday game to the steelers in some of were our listeners. Who i who. I like but are in england and became. What was the to- now. I don't even remember. Was you've you've you've heard anything. I tweeted about them. You've heard me say before when i get irritated. Find that tweet of possible. Go ahead mark. it's from a while ago. I just know the ravens are different to me. And i like i. I really one thing i like about. Stefanski is that he completely shot down the idea of that specific opponent and moral victory. That's now yes. It's not victory. It isn't because i keep hearing that you know the ravens are in for someone that lived through the move. It's different than if you picked up baltimore ten years ago or if you pick up the browns ten years ago there's just different deeper layers and we've been through all of that but you know. They called the ravens. Cleveland's big brother in the ravens were also ripped from cleveland's bellies. So even if you looked at greek and roman myths the idea that a big brother is taken out the stomach of a little brother is a plot that those midst and even attempt to cook up with so it's a very odd relationship between the two teams. I thought it was kind of cool to see stefanski and harbaugh at the end of the game. They showed extreme respect to each other. And if there's even respect going towards a cleveland. Coaching staff at this point that is a massive sea change so it is a step forward and believe me like in dan. This will be the jets at some point. Anyone that's follows a struggling team at some point. If you live long enough it will be there. it's totally surreal not catching up with it emotionally. I just hope that they don't flounder in how get knocked out by the ravens because everyone sorta booked them for the playoffs and they have worked to do for that to be true. They're not in yet. They things could go wrong. They've got it stick to who they are. I think they'll be all right though. Mark we've seen so much this year that they know how to take care of their business that would be that would be a real change of personality for them at this point and i agree with you moral victories. Don't take you very far especially when you have a chance to beat the ravens of all teams but yeah like when we were texting yesterday three years ago in april mark and iron the cozy here are the bar in los angeles by office Taken a shot. Because market steam had taken baker number one and the jets took darnold number three and it felt like the new beginning. The jets obviously have gone. The total opposite direction are worse off than they ever were. Look at where the browns are now from then when they were coming off their own. Oh and sixteen season. So there's so much excited about and Two quick points. First of all justin tucker. You guys know my feelings about justin tucker the fact that it felt like it was a done deal. When he's on the field just tells you everything you need to know about him just drilling a fifty five yarder to the open. Air state end of this data is in the world on a never doubt. That guy is a hall of famer to me. And how about a name for the game. What do you think about the game that works on multiple levels. Why not i like it. I wanted to speak one thing into existence. Finished what you're gonna say. No no no go ahead i. I'm speaking this into existence. Because then in the way i see then this will not happen. There is a scenario where the jets and dolphins end up in total. Hell the jets. Browns end up in total. Hell where if the browns lost to the jets. If sam darnold outduel baker mayfield in the jets beat. The browns in some house compelled to not the browns out of the postseason and the jets out of the first overall pick. That would be very dark. Happen to the cozy. I don't care if it's closed market parts through those courses and yes that was a certified lock off and it gave me no pleasure to feel your pain mark. But i gotta take the w and move forward shout out. I gotta take that up. Well over erica to. She's and we back justin tucker. That field goal when erica aligned herself and she she was having and hauling. Should i pick the ravens browns. When she picked cleveland. You knew it was all over. You knew it was all over and sure enough. That's how played out where to go. Erica thank you argue on the show there. She is yeah I don't like this narrative being smarter narrative. It's it's actually now. Just the way society is your. That's your fate within this realm. I really thought the browns are going gonna pull it off when when they went down and scored. And i was just like this. Is it like. I was really really ruining for him. Maybe that's that's my downfall. Don't don't blow this browns. I don't think they will either. But don't blow this. Don't blow it sunday to win. That game in new york beat the jets and then have like a dead boring game in weeks at. Don't even sweat it out in week. Seventeen all right there. We go bark. We can close the book on that game. I'm sure it will never come up again. In fact as rotating it's playing on nfl network. I know that for a fact and You you might have to deal replays of that for the rest of the time but you know that is i. Guess the price of being involved with a classic game When when it goes your way you love when it comes on all the time. Doesn't it just one more thing that makes life kind of annoying. i will take it assuming that they've replay a game that they win at some point. nfl network. They seem to specialize in plain browns heartbreakers. I don't know if it's a personal note towards towards inventory. They have to choose from ultimately. I mean i feel like it probably outlets anyway Let's move four all right. It is the holiday season gregg. Were smack in the middle hanukkah or smokey robinson calls it chanuka and I know that's a big time celebration in your home now dow and sometimes people. That aren't really that close with me. They'll text me like oh happy. Hanukkah always torn of like joy. Bother to tell them. We don't celebrate gotta manure the house. So wow so. You're really not your hands off this a hands off on. Never you're borderline anti hanukkah. Now i am all about. I support it. But i wasn't raised that way so it hasn't really much air. We're off to a flying start in this holiday segment. We have christmas trees all across the southland and christmas year hanukkah kwanzas row in big time in two thousand twenty so let us share our wishlist. And i know for instance. My kids jack is just learning how to write so he sent his letter to santa harrison. Just the boy of barely four years old. So i helped make his list which i think just had slime on it. It was very limited in scope. Those were sent to stanton and santa hopefully listens and brings children the gifts that they desire so why. Why don't we put together our own holiday wishlist here Hopes for the rest of the twenty twenty season. How we wanted to play out mark. You want to go sure. I think i've had to take a long look in the mirror at my attitude towards the los angeles football teams in the december and the holiday season is the time for healing and giving and i want to give a gift to not the rams necessarily but but the chargers who i think they've been through a lot this season what you want to give them a gift with. I might have the segment wrong. I thought we're asking for something or are we giving power. put it. yeah it's a wishlist listings. We're like those little children writing to santa. I never. I obviously didn't master the writing to santa part. I will suggest that they. I will speak to someone inside the charges organization and we know a few to put this on their wishlist l. about that because i think they don't they don't know about this object but they they will like it and it is. It is bridget. it is bridget. Computer rows logical minks stress. Because you know the charger act it to an embarrassing level. We know that they can't handle end of half scenarios and of game scenarios. It's become a national narrative and it seems to travel from a-rod era and coach coach. They may have. Eric be enemy paired with justin herbert a couple months from now but even if they stick with with anthony lynn. Who were who were fans of. They could use bridget. Who is a as far as we know. Technologically advanced also a bit of a biting. She's not going to mince words. She's gonna tell wait for a robot she does so. I think the chargers needs some tough love there. She is and i would just say. Let's give them bridge. It gets bridget off the hands of this show. I don't have to deal with her again so it helps me as well any gift you give someone else should partially yourself. You basically have brought out of the dumpster forgotten about the bridge five thousand and if i had one wish that that you would have Greta behalf was. Give me a little heads up on this bit. I wanna have bridget like sync up for major laughs for the audience. Well we. I did speak to our producer about this. And it's up to her what she chooses to do with that with that part of it was that bridget. Good one mark not good one. Mark not bridget's one of those characters on the show where i could just remember which bits brought the most anger to mark and that was one of them to the point where bridget had to be tossed in a dumpster. Because i needed to keep the show floating for another decade or so so we could pay our rent and things of that nature. Well i sorted through some of the other clips that she has at her disposal. And it's all like greg is back on. the acid. mark has no good thoughts dan hot. Oh dr. Dan made a mistake. No worries dan. How would you have known things like that so it it felt you know get it out of ours out of our ecosystem and give it to the chargers. Enjoy it bolts. So yeah what are they logic here. Is that bridge. It helps with time management. Bridget i think if you were to reconfigure her system a bit could become one of those. They apparently don't hire anyone from the analytical community. Give them a robot to handle late. Game situations. So bridget. On the headset with eric enemy or anthony lynn. It'd be like bridget's got handled. See in this case you could be like anthony do not run the ball with twenty seconds left and no timeouts unbelievable all right there you go. So the wish. Is that the chargers have bridget. The robot to help with clock management. All right up next. Greg rosenbach all right. They do have this mailbox in my neighborhood where the kids drop off Their wishlist santa. Which is we did it. We have we have a tree. I do wonder like. Is this another like way there. Collecting personal information. Bruno's who knows just a a beam of holiday sunshine was great. I love we got the tree. We got it all. I'm i'm asking for something just a little bit after christmas. I'm asking the football gods for a week. Seventeen that matters. 'cause i'm looking ahead. And i seen a scenario here where the final week of the season has what they call in search crickets. Sometimes a lot of dead rubbers a lot of games that don't really have an impact on what moving forward imagine this in. This is the all of these are about are more than fifty fifty to happen. So it's very possible. A scenario where the chiefs have already clinched homefield. Probably the steelers have already clinched. Afc north but have no chance for home field. The packers have already clinched homefield very possible considering the saints matchup this week in the tie-break advantage green bay as the rams have already clinched the nfc west. All they gotta do is beat the seahawks the seahawks the browns all these other teams are in and we have a whole bunch of week. Seventeen games that don't really matter maybe. We have a cardinals team playing arresting rams team to make it into the playoffs and that and some nfc east nonsense is all we get in weeks. I'll give you another example. Because this i was looking at the schedule this morning. Let's say by the grace of god. The raiders beat the dolphins next week and that becomes an a stone cold race for the seventh spot and then the dolphins need a win against the bills and a great division showdown but the bills locked up. The eastern can go nowhere yet another. He'll play their starters. And then the dolphins end up getting the seventy potentially by default against a bunch of backups. It's it's it's for real. It's a concern here. I think part of the thought of making just one team get the by now. You know you're you're trying to get an extra playoff game. Basically but i think one of the side effects is taking away that second buy yes. You're adding seventeen but you're also taking away that second by especially this year there's no home field advantage. Why why would teams. I wonder even if the colts and titans will play out all out to win the division like you would you would assume they would but i don't know if they're both in the playoffs. Do they really care that much. What a week off in the middle of this pandemic the value rivers and derrick henry than trying to get the four seat instead of the sixth seed. Like i don't know. I would only for the matchup. You want january if there's any way to do that versus the seeding like the browns fans are great. That that that was the first time the entire season. I felt like there was a a any of homefield advantage. Not that it was huge. But it you sense that that game was being played in front of humans and humans that were fired up in you know maybe a little close to each other and and not practicing that mask diligence but at the same time it felt like a real crowd there. The if you look at the numbers. I haven't checked in a while. But the last time i did the row. Teams have a better record than the home teams this year. So yeah that is a big part of this too. I think if you're playing at home and you have no fans. It's almost weirder because you have like muscle memory of remembering they're being seventy thousand people but to your point baker to quiet that crowd last night. There is one thing i like about week. Seventeen whether or not the matchups are good or not. And i'm with you greg. I'd like to see four or five that the really matter. But you are sort of waving farewell. And i don't mean this the way i normally would mean where it's like all get rid of these teams like you're seeing teams for the final minutes until next september and there is something really weird about week. Seventeen where bang they're gone. They're out of your life. That just vanish. See zac taylor brandon allen. We'll miss you not really some of them. We do need to say goodbye to all. Right i will. I will go next right. So i wish that. Jj watt is playing his final games as a member of the texts. So many great memories for what. He's been in the league. Since i believe two thousand eleven or twelve and the defensive player of the year awards that cut. He used to reopen above his head. Right above his brow line and then he would bleed out like the iron sheik in a cage match. Every week the infamous varsity letter jackets before the patriots. Blowouts those grueling injury rehab efforts which are commendable that hard knocks season where he set up his own private workout under the lights which was awesome in the noble and wildly successful hurricane harvey relief fund which raised this real forty. One point six million dollars making it. The largest crowd source fundraiser in houston and history. He's a houston deity. But it's not a let them go. He's thirty one years old. Has one year left on his contract. He's owed seventeen point. Five million guaranteed the texans could simply cut him and move forward. They could trade him which feels like a better route. Potentially for them as long as you play ball. Jj send them somewhere where he wants to play. But i don't know how many years watt has left. I know he's not the same guy he used to be. Tj his probably even eclipsed within the family rankings of defenders in the nfl. But would it be nice to see. Jj watt playing for a contender in the twilight of his career. It would it also would be a tough. I move for whoever's coming in there. There aren't many players. I think that are more beloved. Needs to kind of put that out there that he had of this decision for he. Yeah he doesn't strike he. He always talks about how much he loves the texans. You're right maybe maybe things could change depends on who gets there but that that would be a tough one for whoever is coming in and being the general manager because by the way i think he's still a good player like i think you could get something for. Jj watt because it's contracts fine. He's still really good. He's a he's he's not quite a pro bowler but he's not far off of that. I would just say because you have to shawn watson and it seems like some of the stuff that is fixable if he were super fired up about who. They hired as coach. It's i. I'm with you dan. That if he's if he gets sunk into a more depressing version of the texans going forward he's earned the right to go somewhere else and we've earned the right to see him win with a team that knows how to organize some nice. It'd be nice. I agree this popped in my. Because after they got their ass. Beat thirty six seven by mitch. Trubisky on sunday he was quoted. He said we gave up thirty six points. Today we're not competitive. We gave up thirty six points and it just seemed like he knows. What's going on here. The the texans are such a weird spot. Because you have the shawn watson who can speed up any rebuild. Obviously but they're in such a hole because of the bill o'brien. Gm experience that they're not going to be able to get better quickly especially on defense without any draft resources and jj they could work for both sides. Jj gets a fresh start at the end of his career with contender and they could bring back a draft resources. They desperately need after. Those deals at the end of the bob tenure Let them go but only if he wants it and he and greg you're right. He needs if they're gonna do this. Whoever takes on this job. And i don't think it will be greg easterby. Jj has to be out in front and saying he's part of the decision that they've moved mutually decided. This is the way to go. You just saw them greg easterby. That was a slight on me. Really jack easterby just at this point. Just let them go. I mean there there will be. You know torches and pitchforks passwords. The key thing. I think after that sports illustrated profile Something tells me used to raise. Days are numbered. And we'll see all right. Ricky you said you had one yes yes okay so hear me out. If there's anything not necessarily positive that has come out of covid. My wish for this christmas and goes into the next season is that i hope some teams and reporters kind of take a different similar approach to training camp. I want them to have the normal training camp time and a lot of time and practice. However i don't need to hear that randall. Cobb is was taking more reps than normal and he's going to be the wide receiver one. I don't need that in my life. And i don't think we i think we all do and marks pumping his fists. You must agree with me. Just let them have their training. Camp give us are limited access. Let's leave you know. The narratives in the b s and see in september skip training camp. Just don't want meat media to have this access that creates these narratives that we talk about for months on end we heard of. This is an annual. Yeah this is an annual mark mark. Bit i like it. I know you've said that we can. We just fast forward to the season is what she saying. But a rare member of the media. Say less access. Please please keep us out billionaires. I like it. I think there's a difference between proli- billionaire stunner from the woman that grew up with healy pad play. There's the difference between what mike garafolo said the other week. Where he you know you gotta give reporters access to give us information into developed stories. That should be told my thing is not about the seasons so much is that august training. Camp preseason thing. I personally thought that the nfl this year with no chance to play the pro bowl that should have been gone as a game ages ago in the preseason. It got fixed for you by corona okay. We don't need the preseason one game. I do one game like maybe the idea of even one game or two games for one is just simply no veterans or whatever it is but the idea for the team is still playing five. Preseason garrity where it's i'm not worried about. You can be grateful. This was your dream year. erica who virtually no access in in training camp. It was way wait. Do you hear that. What is that. Oh silence it's nice It's quiet. I don't care who showing up late and does seem like their heart's in it. This training camp play. I adore it. I i will stand up for the every man and when you make people that love your football team and be season ticket holders pay full price for those two preseason games that is hokum to borrow a damn cause them so yes. I'm all for defunding. The preseason feels like a long way off their world market. Got another one. Well i do in bridget. In colleen fashion. I honestly misunderstood the exercise and i gave a gift to someone so i don't care who go ahead. I'll do real quick. It's actually a gift for erica. it's not based on a recent comments but alica a little bit off the nfl sector to some degree. But if we don't have a podcast we don't have the nfl and mark it was. It was a tough night at the cecil house. I wanna learn more about the garage house dynamic because the way mark told the story was that he started the night watching the game in the garage and the browns did well. He goes to the house the ravens strike baggage time and then at some point mark just throws hands up and said i'm going to be with the family. I believe what's left out. There is a bit of a a dust up between simone. Your lovely wife saying mark grow up. Don't blame us for the browns. Get in this house and mark when okay. Well no like she knows me well enough. She's like if you're going to be super stressed out. She's like i totally get i totally get it. But that's fine if you want to watch it in the garage. I just started to realize that like when i was twelve i used to stand on one little tiny patch of carpet during browns games for three straight hours. Because if i moved off but i thought they lose. And it's like i don't have powers over these events as he shed a moved off that spot. Well you're you're not wrong right so my gift for erica. She'll be right so erica. Because i think it's in our best interests that you stay safe and sound. I am going to clone eddie spaghetti and have him stand. Watch outside your apartment against any additional creepy men asking you to open their frozen pizza boxes and cook their pizzas and borrow your knives to cut the pizzas and maybe do other things with knives but there is one catch in our technology. The cloning technology is c plus c plus best right now so cloned eddie. Would he'd be standing there Very guard like and consistent with like two percent of the eddie's real personality he also has like a ravenous appetite. So you essentially yes you and jet would have to make bowls of fresh piping hot spaghetti because according to his that's the only thing he'll eat on the ready twenty four seven. He eats a lot. He has access to your restroom. Merry christmas. But i do think that the upshot will be that gramp. You would stay safe from johns unless he's in the bathroom. Well that's part of the price. But i'm thank you my wishes that the next time a mentally unhinged stranger comes to the door and asks erica for a machete para gloves and to turn off the security cameras. Erica doesn't go okay. that'd be signed me up all my credit card. All right so they go eddie. Spaghetti frankenstein monster to protect erica on fire today. I love it. My second one connected to monday night football. I believe that the monday night football crew earned their button last night. And greg's going to push back on this. But i think they've been very good. This season steve. Levy play by play. Greasy louis riddick i think. Espn should take last night's game which i thought was really handled well in a huge spotlight with tons of twists and turns back and forth. They found the moment they rode the moment. And it felt like We're all watching the game together. Steve levy goes down and monday night. Football has his iconic line of his own. Now and here comes the lamar jackson. They'll be playing that for years when he came back from the Locker room and my thought is espn to put a ring on the finger. make this relationship legit. We know the tested tour. Booger arrow was an obvious mistake. And this current setup wasn't their first choice but gimme this team with solid chemistry over shoehorning. Drew brees drew carey drew barrymore. Or whatever just let these people grow together. Because i think it's been a really promising rookie season for that trio or your breezes sign with nbc. Unless they had a clause in their contract so what about drew barrymore saying that he couldn't get into any hot water with some hot takes. Remember that remember when drew brees broke up the saints locker room forevermore over the summer that was fun really really haunted them the season nine. We needed something. I mean it was. I do like the the theory behind what you're talking about because moving to another booth next year is basically admitting your like the early. Has lamar browns. That we can't like no one can last with us for more than a year or two and you're making this crew and to be robbed kinski which isn't is in fair to them. It's basically a bad. It's showing what poor management. Espn has the gopher some consistency. They've gotten better. And i think that's a good sign. I mean week one. I thought that kirk herbstreet and friend were chris fowler where it had just had flat out more chemistry and it concern me that like a couple of weeks in a row when these other games got put into prime time because of corona that they were outshining. I thought the monday night crew. Over and over. And i was waiting for the version of louis riddick that we get. I think in talk segments and on twitter and i think we're getting more of that. I heard him this morning on. Dan patrick and he did an excellent job with his game. So i think just letting them be more of who they are. I'm with you dan. i'd stick with it. I don't want another screws starting from scratch. I don't think it's the i think. Keep trying to recreate magic from the eighties. When it was really special to watch monday night football and have a three person crew when usually a two person crew just simply as the way to go these days. But if you're going to do this. I think they've earned it and my one concern would be that louis riddick could be pulled away to a front office sooner than later. I keep hearing that and there must be a reason. You keep hearing it. I mean if if riddick word go i think it would survive with no disrespect toward him but i think i really liked greasy a lot. I think he's done a good job. And i think levi's appro those are the two guys that jump out to me. More than perhaps riddick does but like as long as greasy isn't acting like no one else in the country has watched carson wentz play. It's just like like sometimes where it's like. Be up to speed with where the rest of us are in terms of our. Cynicism soared towards certain players. Sometimes it's like this over celebration of both teams where one of the teams has major issues going on. Be real about it. because we're not. We're too savvy as viewers in two thousand and twenty two tough spot. Levi's never done. Nfl games to me. That's the hardest job in sports play by play and and i think you can just see out there. There's a there's a big cast of characters with a ton more experience being. Nfl play by play. So if they're gonna do this you got to be patient with them. All right greg. You got one more. I'll throw it in a just some speed around ones number one. Let's let's get. Brian floor is the coach of the year. I'm so impressed with brian floors win. One beat the patriots. Beat the raiders. You win coach love him. I wanna see alex smith back in the lineup. This better not be the end of the alex smith story. Gimme week seventeen. And alex smith being carried off the field for the division winning football team. This calf injury is it. That would be a big time. Bummer and then this is for all the writers of around the nfl. We don't do it as much anymore. But the cowboys just give prescott. His contract like january fifth surprise. Everyone that there's no drama to it. That the stories over right there on a quiet tuesday way way before the playoff games here it is. We don't have to worry about it when i heard like greasy or it was some are. Maybe it was like there's going to be one heck of negotiation coming up. Give me a freaking break every year. Erica pay them good one. Yes my wish. Is that hopefully with the vaccine. Being rolled out. In everything. For christmas. I would really love to go to tampa for the super bowl with my best boys and get to be in the stadium and watch the super bowl and then do our tradition after the game together. I would love that too. That we can't even tell you what the tradition after the game is but it gets wild crew. I love that but that happened. We have yours whispers realistic here. We already blessed to go to every super bowl since this podcast started and even a couple of years before for market i but this is a very different year and get a good feeling. This will be the first eight hundred podcast. Do from back in la covering a super bowl which will probably be easier to lift But you trade the lift for the experience of being at the super bowl because there's really nothing like being at a super bowl city for that game kickoff week one. That feels more realistic. We're not going to be cutting the line for. I don't think they're going to have cut the line for vaccine. I already got vaccinate. Let's do kickoff weekend. Give us send us to the the week. One thursday game do a special podcast there to celebrate so it will be weird allow at like the super bowl week festivities where you're trying. You're one of thirty rotund. No pasty journals. Attempting to get You know russell wilson to say three words. I will miss that. But i will miss it in the sense because like that ever happen again. I don't know but there's a lot of we will not be Will not be apprehended by the fbi on a boat out on florida waters. Tampa's probably gonna be on fire. No the coronavirus exists so we are probably missing out on what would be an escape from. La society. I thought you were going to say we're missing out on a great case of corona virus that we catch in tampa. Well we definitely. Would you know get my phone stolen on barstool party and then get locked under a tree in a hurricane with an uber on our way that can't that won't happen this year and that's upsetting. I'll quote don draper. And by the way that's going to a barstool part i'll quote don draper marks 'slayer an and because what you're saying is basically what is more of a superspreader event than media night at the super bowl and totally true just like the scouting combine as well and a lot of body odors and sweat and it's just not pleasant in a lotta ways but don draper madman speaking to peggy after. She had her secret child. And she had the child's lame and it will be a spoiler alert and don draper. Who of course was dick whitman in an earlier. Life spoiler alert and started over and hit his past and moved on says to peggy. It will shock you how much it never happened. Move forward as is going to happen here. As much as we're in this moment in life with with covid right now. I just get the feeling at an a couple of years after hopefully everyone's vaccinated and it goes away if all these things that you think are never coming back actually do come back because it will shock you. How quickly people can move on and just move forward. Why didn't there's gonna be a river but people going absolutely crazy or that will be one of the greatest pull quotes we've ever had on this show. Society continues to go down the to meeting people move people move dot in july in this country. That's pretty much like we'll take it. We'll take if nobody's getting sick from that particular bug anymore. It will shock you how much it never happened. Maybe we'll be will have not learned our lesson but Yeah that's conversation for another time all right before we Move up so there you go there as our wishes I was nice. Could sag -joyed here. Is the the first game. Thursday real quick quick. A wish from all of us before we move into this charter preview. Is that we're previewing direct. We wished that crest gets feeling better. And as with us for every show next year. And maybe even after christmas all together all of us wish the listeners. Wish we all wish for them. On paul ricky. It's been really hard year. This podcast and for west it's been unvbelievable battle with a time struggle almost all time perpetually shrubbery. It's amazing how brave tough that duties especially with a newborn the house and kisha also. She's the new lenny dykstra. She's nails sat out to rhoda her. Her mom says mom coming into town and whooping and hollering for her favorite player. Lamar jackson last night. She was unfortunately for you. Mark they were she was on the right side of the lock off i. I love her enjoyment of football It got in my way last night to some degree. But i totally honor her enthusiasm and and when i call kisha jackson. Wesseling aversion of lenny. Dykstra i don't mean the version of lenny dykstra whose teeth fell out and it's going to jail over fraud consumer fraud. I mean just the hard nosed grinding. you know. take one for the team. That's what she's all about all right. Let's get to everyone. Who is lenny. Dykstra let's get to the game to be played on week. Fifteen chargers raiders game. Not as much as i a month ago this felt like it would have been a great game because the chargers yes there. They're even a month ago. The record wasn't good but we all loved the excitement around this team with a young quarterback. But there's been more of a depressing In true and fitting la fashion kind of smog. That's now settled over. The chargers with anthony lynn being in over his head and herbert coming down to earth a little. Bit and the raiders. Obviously this is a team taking on major water. The uss gruden. So they have one last chance here at seven and six at home to keep their seasons alive. And then if you win this game and like i said to get the dolphins after that who you're chasing for a playoff spot who knows you never know but you've got to win this one. I greg. Do you think this is not going to happen. You think the raiders are just gonna completely implode and continue to go down in flames. I'm torn because the chargers have looked worse. Even though i know they want on sunday overall over the last few weeks and they have all season but i think i'm gonna take the chargers just because i want it to happen. It'd be kind of fun for me to see them. Raiders go down in flames. Too bad guest is not a fan of the raiders. I wanted to be i really. I mean ultimately nelson aguilar's fever and their offense first team. So how far are you going because since gruden has taken over they are dead last thirty two or thirty two in expected points Added on defense are allowed on defense and so that hasn't changed each and every week and if the chargers win this game. I think it'll be because herbert plays well. He did the first time against the raiders. That was a really fun. Game a high scoring game. That the raiders. One at the very last second with isaiah johnson bashing that a couple of plays out on the goal line or else they would have lost that game. Joey bosa playing great austin ekeler's back playing great how about the stars show up for the chargers and bury their rivals. That raiders. well in the chargers didn't have joey bosa that tight contests earlier in the season. Now they do. I look at a raiders team. That's given up one hundred fifty points over the past four games. We all know that. The defense a disaster. Jonathan abram has a concussion nicholas monroe their linebacker as a concussion clown farrell has a shoulder injury They have fourteen guys on the injury report right now. They're really banged up and gruden talked about the fact that i think there were. There is residual corona affects with this team to that they were battered on defense on that on that on that sense and have never really recovered and to me. Like the last two games for justin. Herbert i don't know if teams have figured out one was the patriots game but two of his lowest three yardage output's been the last two games and so that's coincided with austin ekeler coming back. I don't know if that threw them out of their normal offense a little bit because he's been really productive but they. They've looked a little different to me. I mean the raiders. I'm not anti raiders. But i just be like any of these teams that get into the playoffs. Earn it and they've team going in the opposite direction. The last few weeks which i think dan y you're appropriately lower on them earn it. I don't have a lot of faith in them. They seem to be coming apart at the seams and gruden is firing a friend and a defensive coordinator as sort of a scapegoat but some of this falls on gruden to. They can't run the ball. The of ten turnovers over the last last three games derek. You're going to be the bizarro version of derek. Carr you need the best version of these guys. Can they do it on thursday night. Josh jacobs has not been a one hundred percent. I know he was back in action this past week. They need to get back to what they were doing when the season was going. Well which is running the ball being a tough physical team hitting hard on defense being smart keeping the penalties to minimum. Which always seems to be a problem with the raiders and then derek carr just has to avoid killer mistakes. I can like i said. I don't have the confidence in them anymore. But i just it just would seem strange to me that a team that was playing as well as they were Including those two great games against the chiefs without any major injuries or cova disasters would just completely go in the tank again so it still doesn't quite add up to me which makes me think who knows maybe they come out of a funk here With a big performance against the chargers team But at the same time if you pick the chargers greg. i don't think that's crazy. Because the raiders have nothing to earn our confidence over the past. Month almost yeah. The raiders are a better team. I'm just picking for for what would be fun. And they've just like to the world bone i like to. I wanna see justin. Herbert light it up because to me. That's probably the best. The best chance for a really fun. Game here is to two flawed teams in the thirties. Going back and forth. I can envision that sort of game. But i don't like that gruden's doing the thing at his press conference this week where he says. Hey i never make excuses. And then he like lists fifteen injuries and he lives fifteen excuses. Like you don't see i know it's only like they're converse. It was like you haven't heard that out of kyle shanahan. You haven't heard that out of a lot of people it's like i've heard it out of gruden you. I'm with you that the chargers will take this thing. Because you can't rush the passer. Justin herbert's gonna be you know terribly taxed mentally by what the raiders do on defense. I'm predicting and i see the raiders as a team to your point. Dan like why were they playing the chiefs so well that there's been whispers that they've had bagged practice weeks here and there again for games. They get up for the chiefs but then they totally. Don't get up for the jets. They don't they totally fall flat against atlanta. Where are they mentally like. Did they feel like a team that is prepared to do whatever it takes to get into the playoffs. They play the dolphins next week. If it's a motivation issue then they should play well in this game because this is a playoff game for the raiders. Lose their seven and seven and totally cooked. So there you go. I believe mark and myself will handle the recap of this on thursday night In addition to our week fifteen preview that will come on thursday so be on the lookout for that and Good luck to everyone Sorting out their own christmas wishlist in their home. Trying to deliver the goods for sandton. All right that's it then. Hands the signing off four quiet storm the old boss and ricky hollywood behind the glass still thursday.

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