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"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

08:41 min | 4 months ago

"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

"Welcome to week. Four of most of the world working from home and before we get to today's topic because I'm recording this for you on a Sunday. That could be Tuesday or could be a Friday. I wanted us to talk a little bit about the passing of time or not cleared. You realize that this Thursday will mark one month since any of us on this team even set foot in the office. It's been a long month and also it's felt really short for some reason if that makes sense because I I did not think that we would be doing this for a month when we first started. I thought a couple of weeks tops and now to think that we could be doing this for several more months is just wild to me. Well what's been the biggest shift? Few in terms of how you relate to time is it Not Knowing what day it is or what week it is or everything just bleeding together because there are a lot for me but one stands out. Yeah all of that but I think the Vegas one has been just not having anywhere to go. I think that's really messed up my sense of time because I'm no longer scheduling anything or thinking about places I have to be in we. You know what time I have to leave my house in order to not be late. That's a huge part of our daily routines. And without it. My whole schedule is really out of whack. You know for me. The biggest thing has been on a macro level the week that we all left the office I was leaving around five thirty and then walking home around quarter to six and I remember being so grateful that winter was ending and it was still light out at like five forty five. That was huge and love on. That happens. Yeah and then yesterday after almost a month of this it was just after eight and the kid was in bed and I was out in the backyard and I noticed that it was still light out. And that's when it kind of hit me. That like a whole changing of the season had slipped past while I was in my basement. Basically I mean. I hope that we don't have another whole changing of seasons while this is happening but I mean since there is literally no end in sight We've been doing this for a month and we're going to continue doing it. We're GONNA continue to help. People find their way in this new normal. Keep people informed about what's happening with this across the country and also share stories of ways that this pandemic could change society and those things won't always be positive but today at least there is a promising development concerning the last major health crisis that we were talking about before this one but I claire the straight news. What do people need to know about where we are as we start our new week? Well today is actually the first day that Canadians have lost their jobs. Because of Cova nineteen can apply for the Canadian emergency response benefit. It offers up to two thousand dollars a month. Here's the thing though. Not everyone can apply today. You can only apply today if your birthday is in January February or March. So if your birthday is in the three months after that you can apply on Tuesday. The three months after that on Wednesday and the last three months of the year on Thursday Friday is when the program becomes open for anyone to apply. I know it's confusing. All the details are online at Canada DOT CA. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says. He's confident that the country will be able to sort out this ban put in place by the US on protective equipment being exported to Canada. Right now Canada's just trying to convince the US that both countries need each other in this fight and it doesn't help anyone to put any sort of ban in place in Saskatchewan. Health officials are trying to figure out a way to reuse and ninety five masks. They would have to have trials. I of course and those likely would not happen. Directly in hospitals they would likely take place in a controlled setting like lab and in Yukon. The government is providing free cell phones to women in vulnerable situations during this pandemic. They're handing out three hundred and twenty-five phones with a free four month plan and this is because of a rise in domestic violence and also an expected shortage of staff at women shelters as of Sunday. Evening over fifteen thousand cases of Kovic nineteen in Canada with two hundred and ninety seven deaths. Some of the most heartbreaking stories that we've told on this podcast have been about the epidemic came before covert nineteen go. It hasn't ended either. The opioid crisis kills thousands of Canadians a year. But despite that it has often been a real fight on the part of advocates to get our governments to try new things it would help save the lives of users even when those new things have already worked in other places. There are the usual political motives behind this the optics and the party bases and law and order promises that need to be kept a lot of. It is also just felt like stagnation. This is how we fight illegal drugs because the drugs are illegal. And this is what we do repeat. But then along came a virus. That doesn't discriminate between a poor user on. Vancouver's downtown Eastside and the officer who hassles him or that officers family that he goes home to. That's just an example but the spread of Cova Nineteen has made it clear that our society is now only going to be as healthy as the poorest among us and so at least one province has started to try something new when it comes to the OPIOID crisis and if it works who knows what could come next. I'm Jordan Heath Rawlings in this. Is The big story. Justin Ling is a writer and reporter based in Montreal. He's talked to US primarily. I guess about the West Coast though today. Hi Justin Hey has it gone? It's going to. We always start with. How well are you coping? I'm coping pretty well. We literally just moved house on March. First and we've unpacked fully and I feel settled in so it could be much worse excellent and is a good time to have a new place. You've done a lot of reporting On this topic. And and why don't you start kind of level setting for us and tell me about the how the normal life of a drug user and the OPIOID crisis would put them at increased risk given our situation right now right so I mean you? There's already in academic right now in Canada in North America and other parts of the world in terms of mostly opioid use but not exclusively There is a massive problem in terms of the supply of heroin and other opioids as well as methamphetamines that is causing a huge surge in overdoses and other illnesses and deaths related to drug use That's mostly not because there is a serious increase in drug use But it's because there's change in what drugs are available on the market and and sort of what is being marketed as certain drugs so you know users who have been using heroin since the nineteen nineties or the early two thousands are suddenly using heroin. That's being laced with Fendt nor carefully panel Or some users have fully switched things like Fenton all which just pose a massive risk of overdose and potentially death that's the status quo when Cova nineteen began hitting it hit these communities disproportionately hard You're dealing with people who might already be compromised. You're dealing with people who might not have good support systems. Anyway you're dealing with people who might be experiencing some of the symptoms of covert nineteen in their day to day life potentially through Symptoms of withdrawal or just symptoms of drug use and they might not even know they have covert nineteen until it's too late so these two epidemics are crashing together in a really dangerous way and what happens then when health systems which are trying to prepare for an oncoming crisis Start to kind of shrink into another. What's happening right now to the resources that the drug users would normally have access to. I'm thinking of you know safe injection sites and st clinics and that kind of thing. Well you know of course when you implement stayed home orders when you shut down a lot of businesses or other resources when you ask people to stay home of we're going to work avoid going into the grocery store you know that is going to have a massive impact Some safe consumption sites are trying to stay open. But a lot of them are dealing with staff shortages. A lot of them have had to close or reduce their hours. And all of have tried to implement social distancing so they are capacity is significantly lower. Where maybe you were able to have twelve people inside a site at any given time now. You only have six.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

Today, Explained

09:47 min | 7 months ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

"President trump's impeachment trial is around the corner so's his State of the Union. The Iowa caucuses and then this election in season finally begins in earnest by mid February that one week mic war we had with Iran might be all but a distant memory for most host but not so much for the families of Ukraine International Airlines flight. Seven five two for them. The fallout from the beef with Iran is just starting to ramp up on the show today. We're going to tell the story of what exactly happened as far as we know to this plane and what's to come for all the countries involved Canada Ukraine Iran. Maybe even the United States. Justin Ling is a freelance journalist based in Toronto. He's been covering the story for foreign policy so on January eighth just a little over a week ago amid a lot of tensions in the Middle East just as has Iran was firing a barrage of missiles toward the American military bases in Iraq. You Creating Airlines international flight. Seven fifty two took off from Tehran destined didn't for Kiev and then a lot of the passengers were destined to go on to Toronto. We're learning that a Boeing seven. Three seven passenger plane has crashed in Iran. On with one hundred and seventy six passengers and crew on board those on board included academics returning from holidays newlyweds coming back from their wedding and many many students students. They came from Iran Canada Ukraine Sweden Afghanistan Germany and England. One hundred thirty eight of them were supposed to be on a connecting flight to Toronto. It landed this afternoon without those people. All of them died in the crash. Now there's a whole bunch of confusion as was happening There were reports of a plane. Crash Ashby this was happening. The exact same time there were fears that American Fighter jets were taking off from the UAE elsewhere may be destined for Iran. There was a men's men's confusion about the aware the missiles were going. What fighter jets may have been scrambled? So no one really knew what was happening. It wasn't until we started getting images of this wreckage is that as the hours went on. It became clear that this commercial flight had gone down. So how does Iran initially react to this plane going down. What did they say so? When it becomes clear that in fact a commercial jet had gone down in Iran before anyone really knew fully what had happened Iranian media reports say the aircraft came down to technical problems? One official said it had been on fire. There wasn't a lot a lot of credibility behind that especially shortly after images started coming out that we're initially unverified. Seem about who was showing what appeared to be the plane on fire her mid-flight before it crashed in a field. That generally doesn't seem to happen a lot with engine failure. You don't see a huge explosion. I have my suspicions. It was. It's very I don't want to say that because other people have those suspicions also It's a tragic thing when I see that it's a tragic thing Somebody could've made a mistake on the other side could've could've made a mistake. It was flying. It was already from the get go. There was a lot of speculation that this has been a military incident a not a mechanical failure. Most Western leaders are unanimous in their assessment that missiles launched in Iran brought down on the doomed plane but today Tehran demanding proof so while Iran is denying that this is their work wetter Ukraine canvassing about it publicly publicly. Ukraine was quiet Ukraine managed to get investigators to the crash site relatively quickly Seemingly quicker than any other foreign state that's because under international national civil aviation laws. The destination country has special rights when it comes to the investigation. They have a higher standing when it comes to sending investigators to the crash rush site and Iran dispatched a number of highly trained investigators to look at the crash site and it seems thanks reporting now that the investigators learned pretty quickly clear that this was a shootdown event. They kept that quiet. Initially Candido was a little more blunt. Time went on. We have intelligence from multiple multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an Iranian surface surface to air missile. This may well have been unintentional. He opened the door and said listen. This may be an accident. We don't know but he said you know the intelligence. It's pretty clear cut so very quickly. I think. Put Iran on the defensive as they're still trying to claim that this was a mechanical failure so how Iran react to Canada's aggressive aggressive reaction. You had the head of the Iranian civil aviation organisation saying that they had already investigated that they completely ruled out the possibility that missiles were to blame for downing the jet families of those killed in the downed plane in Iran are facing competing narratives. Tonight about what led to the deaths of their loved ones. Iran does not believe what that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said yesterday about an Iranian missile shooting down the Ukraine Airlines flight categorically denies it. But of course there's video evidence of if these missiles heading towards the plane. It's very very clear what had happened. Based on cell phone imagery that was uploaded and that was collected in some cases by the New York Times and others I I think it became pretty clear to Iran that they didn't have a leg to stand on. Does Iran come out and make an official statement saying hey that was actually us us and sorry relied on. Iranian state. Media certainly recognized that it wasn't fact the Iranian regime. That doesn't really happen happen unless the regime itself acknowledgement Iran now faces pressure not just from America of course with whom it had a rising tensions over recent weeks weeks but now it has a problem with Canada with Ukraine with the European Union and suddenly after trying to garner some international goodwill it is now very much regarded as is the bad guy. Not only did it shoot down a plane. It tried to lie about it and that is very difficult. I think for the Iranian regime to spin to the European countries. He's with whom it's trying to preserve a nuclear deal on top of that. You have rising discord inside Iran itself. There's anger at the government on the streets in Tehran. Pockets of protest. After Ron's military admitted is accidentally shot down a civilian plane. They shout for their leaders to resign. There were widespread protests in Iran or the end of last year largely over the cost of living thing as the new year dawned a lot of those protests petered out partially because of fear I think internally that they were heading to the precipice of war with America especially after the targeted killing of General Somali. I think the Iranian regime's managed to rally some of the population around. You know it's national. 'cause is that went out the window when it became clear that Iran was responsible for shooting down a jet that had dozens of its own citizens on board. So what is Iran doing now to own this. In recent days you've seen the state start rounding up. Some people with detail who they claim are responsible for the shootdown Iran now confirming that arrest happy made of those involved in the accidental shooting. Down of that play no details. How how many or exactly who has been arrested food and this morning? Iran's President Ronnie admitting the from the get-go he taught the crash wasn't normal. That does seem to be a bit of scapegoating. You know sort of trying to blame blame a rogue faction or you know some incompetent military brass inside but I don't know that many in the public are really going to buy that. I mean fundamentally mentally military structures being what they are. You can't really blame the lowest level. For a mistake of this magnitude ultimately someone higher up needs to be held responsible if non the military the state itself was there any attempt to shift the blame back on the United States. Yeah absolutely I mean. That was kind of quick retort from Tehran. After they recognized they of themselves were responsible for down this airliner. They sort of put it back onto Washington and said you know if not for the hostilities spurred by America this never would have happened and surely Canada isn't too happy with the United States. Either I think if there were no tensions if there was no escalation recently in the region. those Canadians would be right now with their families This is something that happens when when you have conflict and war innocence bear the brunt of Ed Canadian citizens were represented more than any others. There's in the international community on that flight and I think it puts it on Canada to step in and and ensure that there is a credible investigation for one but also credible so You know legal process thus far it's been a mixed bag. Iran initially said that the black boxes were damaged and couldn't be read. Now they're saying either damaged but they're still data on them and just recently we've seen them seemingly acquiesced to a request to send the boxes to France for analysis so it remains to be seen in how to what end they're going to allow military commanders to be interviewed by investigators. That will be a huge piece of this puzzle. It's not not clear whether or not they're going to participate in potentially process at the International Court of Justice. All those things down the line are big questions. That will be very interesting to see how ron response to.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

Today, Explained

09:47 min | 7 months ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

"President trump's impeachment trial is around the corner so's his State of the Union. The Iowa caucuses and then this election in season finally begins in earnest by mid February that one week mic war we had with Iran might be all but a distant memory for most host but not so much for the families of Ukraine International Airlines flight. Seven five two for them. The fallout from the beef with Iran is just starting to ramp up on the show today. We're going to tell the story of what exactly happened as far as we know to this plane and what's to come for all the countries involved Canada Ukraine Iran. Maybe even the United States. Justin Ling is a freelance journalist based in Toronto. He's been covering the story for foreign policy so on January eighth just a little over a week ago amid a lot of tensions in the Middle East just as has Iran was firing a barrage of missiles toward the American military bases in Iraq. You Creating Airlines international flight. Seven fifty two took off from Tehran destined didn't for Kiev and then a lot of the passengers were destined to go on to Toronto. We're learning that a Boeing seven. Three seven passenger plane has crashed in Iran. On with one hundred and seventy six passengers and crew on board those on board included academics returning from holidays newlyweds coming back from their wedding and many many students students. They came from Iran Canada Ukraine Sweden Afghanistan Germany and England. One hundred thirty eight of them were supposed to be on a connecting flight to Toronto. It landed this afternoon without those people. All of them died in the crash. Now there's a whole bunch of confusion as was happening There were reports of a plane. Crash Ashby this was happening. The exact same time there were fears that American Fighter jets were taking off from the UAE elsewhere may be destined for Iran. There was a men's men's confusion about the aware the missiles were going. What fighter jets may have been scrambled? So no one really knew what was happening. It wasn't until we started getting images of this wreckage is that as the hours went on. It became clear that this commercial flight had gone down. So how does Iran initially react to this plane going down. What did they say so? When it becomes clear that in fact a commercial jet had gone down in Iran before anyone really knew fully what had happened Iranian media reports say the aircraft came down to technical problems? One official said it had been on fire. There wasn't a lot a lot of credibility behind that especially shortly after images started coming out that we're initially unverified. Seem about who was showing what appeared to be the plane on fire her mid-flight before it crashed in a field. That generally doesn't seem to happen a lot with engine failure. You don't see a huge explosion. I have my suspicions. It was. It's very I don't want to say that because other people have those suspicions also It's a tragic thing when I see that it's a tragic thing Somebody could've made a mistake on the other side could've could've made a mistake. It was flying. It was already from the get go. There was a lot of speculation that this has been a military incident a not a mechanical failure. Most Western leaders are unanimous in their assessment that missiles launched in Iran brought down on the doomed plane but today Tehran demanding proof so while Iran is denying that this is their work wetter Ukraine canvassing about it publicly publicly. Ukraine was quiet Ukraine managed to get investigators to the crash site relatively quickly Seemingly quicker than any other foreign state that's because under international national civil aviation laws. The destination country has special rights when it comes to the investigation. They have a higher standing when it comes to sending investigators to the crash rush site and Iran dispatched a number of highly trained investigators to look at the crash site and it seems thanks reporting now that the investigators learned pretty quickly clear that this was a shootdown event. They kept that quiet. Initially Candido was a little more blunt. Time went on. We have intelligence from multiple multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an Iranian surface surface to air missile. This may well have been unintentional. He opened the door and said listen. This may be an accident. We don't know but he said you know the intelligence. It's pretty clear cut so very quickly. I think. Put Iran on the defensive as they're still trying to claim that this was a mechanical failure so how Iran react to Canada's aggressive aggressive reaction. You had the head of the Iranian civil aviation organisation saying that they had already investigated that they completely ruled out the possibility that missiles were to blame for downing the jet families of those killed in the downed plane in Iran are facing competing narratives. Tonight about what led to the deaths of their loved ones. Iran does not believe what that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said yesterday about an Iranian missile shooting down the Ukraine Airlines flight categorically denies it. But of course there's video evidence of if these missiles heading towards the plane. It's very very clear what had happened. Based on cell phone imagery that was uploaded and that was collected in some cases by the New York Times and others I I think it became pretty clear to Iran that they didn't have a leg to stand on. Does Iran come out and make an official statement saying hey that was actually us us and sorry relied on. Iranian state. Media certainly recognized that it wasn't fact the Iranian regime. That doesn't really happen happen unless the regime itself acknowledgement Iran now faces pressure not just from America of course with whom it had a rising tensions over recent weeks weeks but now it has a problem with Canada with Ukraine with the European Union and suddenly after trying to garner some international goodwill it is now very much regarded as is the bad guy. Not only did it shoot down a plane. It tried to lie about it and that is very difficult. I think for the Iranian regime to spin to the European countries. He's with whom it's trying to preserve a nuclear deal on top of that. You have rising discord inside Iran itself. There's anger at the government on the streets in Tehran. Pockets of protest. After Ron's military admitted is accidentally shot down a civilian plane. They shout for their leaders to resign. There were widespread protests in Iran or the end of last year largely over the cost of living thing as the new year dawned a lot of those protests petered out partially because of fear I think internally that they were heading to the precipice of war with America especially after the targeted killing of General Somali. I think the Iranian regime's managed to rally some of the population around. You know it's national. 'cause is that went out the window when it became clear that Iran was responsible for shooting down a jet that had dozens of its own citizens on board. So what is Iran doing now to own this. In recent days you've seen the state start rounding up. Some people with detail who they claim are responsible for the shootdown Iran now confirming that arrest happy made of those involved in the accidental shooting. Down of that play no details. How how many or exactly who has been arrested food and this morning? Iran's President Ronnie admitting the from the get-go he taught the crash wasn't normal. That does seem to be a bit of scapegoating. You know sort of trying to blame blame a rogue faction or you know some incompetent military brass inside but I don't know that many in the public are really going to buy that. I mean fundamentally mentally military structures being what they are. You can't really blame the lowest level. For a mistake of this magnitude ultimately someone higher up needs to be held responsible if non the military the state itself was there any attempt to shift the blame back on the United States. Yeah absolutely I mean. That was kind of quick retort from Tehran. After they recognized they of themselves were responsible for down this airliner. They sort of put it back onto Washington and said you know if not for the hostilities spurred by America this never would have happened and surely Canada isn't too happy with the United States. Either I think if there were no tensions if there was no escalation recently in the region. those Canadians would be right now with their families This is something that happens when when you have conflict and war innocence bear the brunt of Ed Canadian citizens were represented more than any others. There's in the international community on that flight and I think it puts it on Canada to step in and and ensure that there is a credible investigation for one but also credible so You know legal process thus far it's been a mixed bag. Iran initially said that the black boxes were damaged and couldn't be read. Now they're saying either damaged but they're still data on them and just recently we've seen them seemingly acquiesced to a request to send the boxes to France for analysis so it remains to be seen in how to what end they're going to allow military commanders to be interviewed by investigators. That will be a huge piece of this puzzle. It's not not clear whether or not they're going to participate in potentially process at the International Court of Justice. All those things down the line are big questions. That will be very interesting to see how ron response to.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

Today, Explained

09:47 min | 7 months ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Today, Explained

"President trump's impeachment trial is around the corner so's his State of the Union. The Iowa caucuses and then this election in season finally begins in earnest by mid February that one week mic war we had with Iran might be all but a distant memory for most host but not so much for the families of Ukraine International Airlines flight. Seven five two for them. The fallout from the beef with Iran is just starting to ramp up on the show today. We're going to tell the story of what exactly happened as far as we know to this plane and what's to come for all the countries involved Canada Ukraine Iran. Maybe even the United States. Justin Ling is a freelance journalist based in Toronto. He's been covering the story for foreign policy so on January eighth just a little over a week ago amid a lot of tensions in the Middle East just as has Iran was firing a barrage of missiles toward the American military bases in Iraq. You Creating Airlines international flight. Seven fifty two took off from Tehran destined didn't for Kiev and then a lot of the passengers were destined to go on to Toronto. We're learning that a Boeing seven. Three seven passenger plane has crashed in Iran. On with one hundred and seventy six passengers and crew on board those on board included academics returning from holidays newlyweds coming back from their wedding and many many students students. They came from Iran Canada Ukraine Sweden Afghanistan Germany and England. One hundred thirty eight of them were supposed to be on a connecting flight to Toronto. It landed this afternoon without those people. All of them died in the crash. Now there's a whole bunch of confusion as was happening There were reports of a plane. Crash Ashby this was happening. The exact same time there were fears that American Fighter jets were taking off from the UAE elsewhere may be destined for Iran. There was a men's men's confusion about the aware the missiles were going. What fighter jets may have been scrambled? So no one really knew what was happening. It wasn't until we started getting images of this wreckage is that as the hours went on. It became clear that this commercial flight had gone down. So how does Iran initially react to this plane going down. What did they say so? When it becomes clear that in fact a commercial jet had gone down in Iran before anyone really knew fully what had happened Iranian media reports say the aircraft came down to technical problems? One official said it had been on fire. There wasn't a lot a lot of credibility behind that especially shortly after images started coming out that we're initially unverified. Seem about who was showing what appeared to be the plane on fire her mid-flight before it crashed in a field. That generally doesn't seem to happen a lot with engine failure. You don't see a huge explosion. I have my suspicions. It was. It's very I don't want to say that because other people have those suspicions also It's a tragic thing when I see that it's a tragic thing Somebody could've made a mistake on the other side could've could've made a mistake. It was flying. It was already from the get go. There was a lot of speculation that this has been a military incident a not a mechanical failure. Most Western leaders are unanimous in their assessment that missiles launched in Iran brought down on the doomed plane but today Tehran demanding proof so while Iran is denying that this is their work wetter Ukraine canvassing about it publicly publicly. Ukraine was quiet Ukraine managed to get investigators to the crash site relatively quickly Seemingly quicker than any other foreign state that's because under international national civil aviation laws. The destination country has special rights when it comes to the investigation. They have a higher standing when it comes to sending investigators to the crash rush site and Iran dispatched a number of highly trained investigators to look at the crash site and it seems thanks reporting now that the investigators learned pretty quickly clear that this was a shootdown event. They kept that quiet. Initially Candido was a little more blunt. Time went on. We have intelligence from multiple multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an Iranian surface surface to air missile. This may well have been unintentional. He opened the door and said listen. This may be an accident. We don't know but he said you know the intelligence. It's pretty clear cut so very quickly. I think. Put Iran on the defensive as they're still trying to claim that this was a mechanical failure so how Iran react to Canada's aggressive aggressive reaction. You had the head of the Iranian civil aviation organisation saying that they had already investigated that they completely ruled out the possibility that missiles were to blame for downing the jet families of those killed in the downed plane in Iran are facing competing narratives. Tonight about what led to the deaths of their loved ones. Iran does not believe what that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said yesterday about an Iranian missile shooting down the Ukraine Airlines flight categorically denies it. But of course there's video evidence of if these missiles heading towards the plane. It's very very clear what had happened. Based on cell phone imagery that was uploaded and that was collected in some cases by the New York Times and others I I think it became pretty clear to Iran that they didn't have a leg to stand on. Does Iran come out and make an official statement saying hey that was actually us us and sorry relied on. Iranian state. Media certainly recognized that it wasn't fact the Iranian regime. That doesn't really happen happen unless the regime itself acknowledgement Iran now faces pressure not just from America of course with whom it had a rising tensions over recent weeks weeks but now it has a problem with Canada with Ukraine with the European Union and suddenly after trying to garner some international goodwill it is now very much regarded as is the bad guy. Not only did it shoot down a plane. It tried to lie about it and that is very difficult. I think for the Iranian regime to spin to the European countries. He's with whom it's trying to preserve a nuclear deal on top of that. You have rising discord inside Iran itself. There's anger at the government on the streets in Tehran. Pockets of protest. After Ron's military admitted is accidentally shot down a civilian plane. They shout for their leaders to resign. There were widespread protests in Iran or the end of last year largely over the cost of living thing as the new year dawned a lot of those protests petered out partially because of fear I think internally that they were heading to the precipice of war with America especially after the targeted killing of General Somali. I think the Iranian regime's managed to rally some of the population around. You know it's national. 'cause is that went out the window when it became clear that Iran was responsible for shooting down a jet that had dozens of its own citizens on board. So what is Iran doing now to own this. In recent days you've seen the state start rounding up. Some people with detail who they claim are responsible for the shootdown Iran now confirming that arrest happy made of those involved in the accidental shooting. Down of that play no details. How how many or exactly who has been arrested food and this morning? Iran's President Ronnie admitting the from the get-go he taught the crash wasn't normal. That does seem to be a bit of scapegoating. You know sort of trying to blame blame a rogue faction or you know some incompetent military brass inside but I don't know that many in the public are really going to buy that. I mean fundamentally mentally military structures being what they are. You can't really blame the lowest level. For a mistake of this magnitude ultimately someone higher up needs to be held responsible if non the military the state itself was there any attempt to shift the blame back on the United States. Yeah absolutely I mean. That was kind of quick retort from Tehran. After they recognized they of themselves were responsible for down this airliner. They sort of put it back onto Washington and said you know if not for the hostilities spurred by America this never would have happened and surely Canada isn't too happy with the United States. Either I think if there were no tensions if there was no escalation recently in the region. those Canadians would be right now with their families This is something that happens when when you have conflict and war innocence bear the brunt of Ed Canadian citizens were represented more than any others. There's in the international community on that flight and I think it puts it on Canada to step in and and ensure that there is a credible investigation for one but also credible so You know legal process thus far it's been a mixed bag. Iran initially said that the black boxes were damaged and couldn't be read. Now they're saying either damaged but they're still data on them and just recently we've seen them seemingly acquiesced to a request to send the boxes to France for analysis so it remains to be seen in how to what end they're going to allow military commanders to be interviewed by investigators. That will be a huge piece of this puzzle. It's not not clear whether or not they're going to participate in potentially process at the International Court of Justice. All those things down the line are big questions. That will be very interesting to see how ron response to.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

Uncover

09:03 min | 8 months ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

"Co host of the National and uncovered bomb on board board recently at the hot Docs podcast festival in Toronto. I had the chance to share the stage with five incredible journalists from. CBC PODCASTS Josh. Block host of uncover escaping nexium Connie Walker the host of missing and murdered Justin Ling host of uncovered the village Michelle Shepherd separate host of uncovers Sharma knee and Damon fearless host of hunting warhead. If you haven't listened to these check them out I have heard all of them and they are riveting. These five journalists spent months sometimes even years digging investigating trying to uncover the truth in this bonus. Episode you're going to hear brand new stories. He's from some of the best investigative journalists and podcasters and those moments. Still keep them up at night whether it's trying to understand how a childhood friend found found herself recruiting for cult bearing witness to the life and death of a young creek girl or shining light on the darkest corners of the Internet. I I up Josh Block and uncover escaping nexium so one night in the middle of our investigation into nexium. I lay awake in bed with this terrifying feeling that I had been duped. I if you haven't heard the podcast I I learned about nexium from a childhood friend of Mine Sarah Edmonson when I ran into her two years ago the group calls themself a self help group but the FBI calls them a cult. It was just weeks after she had made this dramatic exit from the group and at that time little was known about nexium. There were notorious for going after people who would speak out about them but Sarah wanted to talk and I started recording conversations. So how how. How are you holding up? I don't even have word. Just love embarrassment. A lot of regrets for not following my gut instinct at the beginning A lot of shame that I missed the red flags and then I brought so many people to it so Sarah told me how she was a part of this group for twelve years. She was one of their star recruiters. She recruited two thousand people went to the organization. She described how she opened up a nexium center in in Vancouver. which at one point was the largest center for nexium outside of its headquarters in Albany New York and eventually she was recruited into the secret? Women's group called Dos where she was branded on her body with the initials of the group's leader keeps were nearly who everyone called vanguard in October of two thousand seventeen. Sarah Zero was on the front page of the New York Times. Her jeans were flat down to reveal the brand on her pelvis and the story that she told me in the story that she told The New York Times was was about a woman who was deceived. She was manipulated and coerced and had finally come forward as a whistleblower. But the night that I lay awake in bed I wondered if there was a different story. It was a question that our team had asked ourselves before but today was different. So that morning we'd received an anonymous encrypted letter that was sent sent to the CBC dropbox and my producer Kathleen Gold Har- rented out to the team. Said Hi Miss Sarah Edmonson Vancouver. Actress has been in the news recently featured by the New York Times for her role in the sex mind control cult nexium inner statements about her involvement with Nexium Edmonson mostly claims to be a victim. But but the truth is she and several colleagues were ruthless recruiters for Mr Rene Nexium. For many years. They use bullying tactics. High pressured sales pitches which is defamation and trickery as interesting why what prompted us. They're wanting us to see another side of this so the letter claim that Sarah was reframing her story to make herself look innocent. A claim that Sarah was far more culpable than she was leading on. I didn't know who the letter came from more to what extent it was true but I lay awake in bed that night wondering about the story Sarah been telling me and was her version of events the entire truth. Is it possible. Awesome that my connection to Sarah was making me miss something that other people could see as the FBI released more information about nexium. This feeling persisted. We we learned that Keith. Bernardi maintained a Harem. Fifteen to twenty women all female leaders in the group and I thought. How is it possible that Sarah is not aware that this was going on? She'd been part of Nexium for a decade. She ran their nexium center. She was one of the leaders in the organization. Could Sarah have been one of these secret. Lovers was she involved in grooming women to become kice partner. I was worried that the upcoming trial was going to reveal that we got the story totally wrong. But I've been misled that this would it'll be the first and the last podcast that they ever did. Then in May of this year kice trial began in a federal courthouse in Brooklyn finally finally the most secret inner workings of this group. We're going to be exposed. A former NEXIUM member for Mexico. told the court how she was confined to a room for two years. Here's another former member of nexium testified how she was instructed to seduce. Keith were neary and threatened that if she didn't follow through on that order damaging information would be released to the public about her. We learned about how Keith Rainier groomed underage girls and kept nude photos of them on his computer and the prosecution played audio and video recordings showing just how manipulative Keith. Rainier was in one particular conversation he had with actress. Allison mack was also a high level member member of the group. He instructed her exactly how he wanted. Women like Sarah to be branded on their bodies also of course videoing videoing it from different angles or whatever it gives. Collateral probably should be a more vulnerable herbal position thing on the back leg slightly spur legs spread straight like the beeping Helton side of the table able and probably above the head being held almost like tied down like a sacrificial whatever and the person should ask to be branded should say please please brand meat would be an honor or something like that. An honor I wanNA wear for the rest of my life and is you're probably say that before were there held down doesn't seem like they're being coerced so sitting in that packed courtroom. A few things became quickly clear one key through near used secrecy and information to control and manipulate people in the group to what was actually going on inside. This group was far far worse than anything Sarah had ever told me and three. It wasn't just Sarah that was in the dark to hear how other high ranking members of Nexium people who had actually given up their lives and move to Albany to be close to key through neary even them they were in the dark about what was going on inside this group. So my anxiety about Sara. Sara knew more than she's letting on shifted. I left that trial with a new question. How could it be that an entire organization could be duped this way all these people who lived and worked around key through nearly all day in this little suburb in Albany? How could they not have known about the sex trafficking and the forcible confinement environment and the manipulation and the underage girls secrecy and information control is an essential ingredient to how these kinds of groups operate that is why people who aren't keeper neary or part of his inner circle has such limited insight into what was going on inside this group? This explains a lot about what was going on with Sarah and perhaps I would have slept better having known this earlier on in our process for twelve years my childhood friend Sarah Edmonson had been sold and was selling version of that just never existed. It's only when a group like this collapses that the secrets are revealed and members like Sarah have to really reckon with how they were deceived. Not Know Anything. Not It'd be told and then this child just disappear into thin air now. I've done a lot of reporting on missing winging murdered indigenous women and girls but I've never heard a story like this before. What do you do with a complete strangers? Come and grab abuser car. Wash your godmother way and they take you away she was crying she tried to hitchhike back to little pine back onto the reserve user but was picked up raped and murdered a left by the side of the road. She grabbed her brother's jacket and the jacket was found floating.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Slate's Double X Gabfest

Slate's Double X Gabfest

03:50 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Slate's Double X Gabfest

"Sleep dot com. I'm going to keep watching it. I don't know about you guys. Fisher me to write recommendations who'd like to go. I I would love to recommend a podcast from the CBC called uncover the village. The village is actually season three of them cover that you have to Luke uncover to find in putting up but this season is about the history of disappearance. Murder of gay men in Toronto's gay village starting in the nineteen seventies. And it's a really interesting kind of Luke back. I mean, because it's the CBC they have access to amazing archival audio coverage of new stories from back, Ben ho, these murders were covered the disappearances weren't covered in a sense. And people are, you know, the journalist who is the the host Justin Ling has talked to. A bunch of either people who were activists in those days when the really weren't very many. You know, open activists there were, you know, they talk about how there was basically, you know, the lawyer and the priests are the pastor there were the two people that everybody went to if you needed either a quilt from gay person or the police needed to find out something about the gay community. And they talks also with policemen from those decades, and it's a very measured. Very kind of gentle documentary doesn't traffic in outrage. Even though what's revealed is is very -rageous. And I just think it's a very well put together podcast is called uncover the village. I would say uncover is also the podcast that gives us the next season in the first season. Oh, I've been wanting to listen to that. Yeah. The second season is about a plane crash and was not quite successful. I would say, but I really recommend the village Noreen. I want to recommend. And Ruth racial latest memoir. Save me the plums. I love Ruth rituals writing. She has what it has always been for me like a fantasy life. I particularly liked her memoir think it's comfort me with apples. When she no might be tender with whatever. Anyway, it's the it's the memoir was she's living in Berkeley like and hanging out at shape in these all the time and to me, it's just like the most perfect way to spend your twenties and thirties, and I it's like a total fantasy from you. But what after being the restaurant critic at the New York Times. She then went on ran gourmet magazine and reinvigorated it in the dying days of Conde nast. And that's what she's written this memoir about. And so if you like Ruth, racial or gourmet this will or you like magazines, I sort of came from all of those angles. It's a really fun read their sort of the excesses of Conde, and then the quick fall. And there's tons of sort of insider baseball Goss. Tip. She does have a little bit of a like phone naive tone in the beginning. That's sort of your attaining like, oh who meaning like inside the halls of Conde nast. Which which I didn't love. But in general, I just am happy to be in her presence. So yes, I will read anything by Ruth, racial, including her crazy tweets, which are like these like zen Cohen's about like, you know, the do in the Hudson valley, and the like, you know, the perfect like bowl of saffron rice that she's eating. They're like crazy and weird. And I love the performance art of it, so maybe general booth racial recommendation. But specifically the most recent memoir. That sounds great. I am recommending a book called baby precious always shines. It's a collection of love letters between Gertrude Stein. And Alice veto clips, I initially got the book because I'm looking for readings for my wedding..

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"justin ling" Discussed on Shattered: White Boy Rick

Shattered: White Boy Rick

05:34 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Shattered: White Boy Rick

"For seven years men were vanishing from Toronto's gave Elhage community, always suspected serial killer. And they were right and the new season of uncover the village host Justin Ling investigates to spates of brutal murders forty years apart. Listen and subscribe to uncover wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Bruce dantonio was a middle aged psychiatrist and professor at Wayne State university in nineteen seventy seven he consulted with task force on this case, and he did so with police prior to the child killings and other cases. Some police were skeptical of Dr Daniel because he was kind of a publicity hound in some ways, but they were willing to take whatever help anybody might be able to give them and Dr Bruce dantonio f all was an expert in this field, and he offered to try to help we have completely covered the areas that we need to with the profile and with the composite and with information about cars and vehicles wanted. Dr Dan to appeared on local TV in January of nineteen seventy seven Christina Mahela was missing. And surely after this television segment the killer would leave Maalik spotty on Bruce lane in Franklin Michigan. Dr Bruce dantonio Bruce lane meant the killer was trying to send him a message. I know. This sounds crazy. But police thought dantonio and the killer may actually have a connection. Timmy, king was missing much of nineteen seventy seven the police went to anto and asked him for help. They want to go on TV and say that the killer was quote, a squirrel character and quote authorities hoped. This would be the killer to squirrel road. Please late know those twenty four thirty days when I was finally called it out. In the spring of nineteen seventy seven a man calling himself Allen road, Dr dantonio saying that his roommate Frank was the killer Frank or Allen, neither one of those are real names. These are the names that were given by Alan Danta in this. Alan guy would write back and forth. It's important to note that Dan did share his correspondence with the task force. Allen typed. I'm desperate and nearly gone. Crazy. This is for real. I know who the killer is I live with him. I am slave. He went on to talk about his roommate Frank and how his actions were actually celebrated. He killed a lot of little kids, and then got medals for it for in the death bomb them with napalm. He wants the rich people in Birmingham to suffer like all of us suffer to get nothing back for what we did for our country. He's not a monster. Like, you think you really loves children, especially that little girl three weeks. Not because he hates children but doing it because he hates everybody else out there. Allen was clear that he himself had nothing to do with the murders. He said, I swear I had no idea. He was going to kill that. First little boy, the one with the blonde colored hair. That Blombos talking about was Mark stebbins? Ellen started to become more cryptic, and Dr Daniel some instructions on April tenth nineteen seventy seven Dr Daniel contacted Alan by putting ad in the newspaper with the code words. Trees to bloom in three weeks. Now these particular codes were used because that's what Alan asked Danta to do. So that our new Danta wanted to communicate with him. Responded to this ad by calling Dr Danta bat day, and he promised to bring Polaroid's to dantonio proving that his roommate Frank killed more stebbins chill Robinson, Christina and TIMMY king. That was only if Dr dantonio get then Governor William Milliken to write a letter of immunity, which would make sure that Alan didn't get any trouble through this process. Elmwood orchestrator meeting the venue. Gabe are in Detroit, Dr dantonio showed and then he waited Allen never showed and would never make contact with the doctor again dental tried several times publicly to reach out to this Alan guy through the newspaper, but he had seemingly vanished some speculate that he was hushed possibly murdered others think Alan was nothing more than a hoax. As the case trudged on leads dried up task force funds were bap rating. What I'm interested in as long as we have the manpower. We've got enough cars and gas in our cars and paper to put an typewriters. We're going to be in business. The remaining officers kept working the case, the nearly twenty three months the task force operated. It would be awarded to federal grants totaling four hundred and forty five thousand dollars, but that only lasts so long after twenty thousand tips and about two million dollars spent on December fifteenth nineteen seventy eight the task force would officially Ford. And the Oakland County child killer case, we'd go quiet long longtime. But

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"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

Uncover

01:48 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

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"justin ling" Discussed on Safe Space

Safe Space

01:32 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Safe Space

"That? Who would you have is your obviously, thank you. I am. I'm the opposite persuasion, which is that I've been into many feminist clubs you need a dictator. Sometimes you just need somebody who's going to be like, this is what we're reading this month, and I will brook. No, we're from. Vicky is for dictators. Yeah. I think we should actually just only have one prime minister ever, but they have to corral. Whatever party gets elected. Oh. Approach with Megan be prime minister. But she might have to lead the conservatives. You know? I love it could be in power for for a long time. I like messy politics say all right? Well, that's it for this show this week. Thank you so much to our guest. Justin, Ling, and my coho, Sarah. Bozo Justin how can people keep up with you? Me just underscore leg on Twitter foamy. They're saving things that me there at Serra, Bose volunteer. I'm always sort of sharing photos of my dog. That's about all I do these days very cute dog. So this sodas recorded vocal fry studios and produced by the amazing door says let me you can find us on itunes by going to. It's a safe space dot com. Please leave us a rating and review if you like the show because we love hearing what you have to say you can also get in touch with us on Twitter at it's a safe space, and you can get in touch with me on Twitter at trauma safe-space comes out every Friday until next week. Stacey.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

Uncover

01:54 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Uncover

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"justin ling" Discussed on Shattered: White Boy Rick

Shattered: White Boy Rick

05:04 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Shattered: White Boy Rick

"For seven years men were vanishing from Toronto's gay village community, always suspected serial killer, and they were right and the new season of uncover the village host Justin Ling investigates to spates of brutal murderers, forty years apart. Listen and subscribe to uncover wherever you get your podcasts. The following story contained sensitive and disturbing details. It's not suitable for children. We have an extensive search in Birmingham area we have utilized both the sheriff's office. And we have also the task force. It is presently working on the other crimes other crimes that have committed the Oakland County area. Yes. Abba, work schedule to do a lot of things that that be normal person. Can't do he's clean. We think. We we think we're looking for somebody in a white collar class or professional class something of that nature. Welcome back to shattered. I'm Jeremy Ellen. Chief Tobin still thinks there's someone out there who has information about the killer. And he's hoping that person will come forth with that information without that information, he fears the only way they're going to find the murderer is if he strikes again, and at this point, nobody wants that it had been six days since king was last seen at the hunter maple pharmacy in Birmingham, drugstore, youngster salt about three blocks. The search for TIMMY king was at a fever pitch. The task force asked everyone to keep a lookout including postal workers as they deliver the mail. Why a day or should anything out there? They should be able to dissolve everybody Kenyan h gale audible eight this mobile at the incisions with CB radio radios in their cars became part of the search as well. I don't think it's been going. And it's been interesting. There other has made it kind of nasty that drive around your do you're looking year. But doing the very best we can find this missing youngster. On the night of the sixth day. The searching would stop finally on March twenty second author keenum five or six days after Tim had gone missing. Two kids driving down Gill road near eight mile. In farmington. And they see I think they see Tim's red hockey jacket. Tuesday, March twenty second nineteen seventy seven right around eleven pm to makings body is found in a shallow. Ditch. The body of the young land down there. Timothy canaan. Former Birmingham police officer Jack called flesh was at the scene that night. He addressed a massive reporter sometime after midnight. Early to tell and we're not going to second guess the land. The medical exotic. No obvious signs, gentlemen. We have stayed back. Let the crime lab people do their job in. We only got most enough to give the tentative identification. How long do you think he's been that might give no answer your some background to the body was found? No, I can't at this time. We received our call lavonia stating a body had been found and the clothing description was similar to that of are missing. Boy. Timmy's body was in a ditch about three hundred sixty feet south of eight mile road in the Bonia. This location is important for many reasons lavonia is not an Oakland County. But instead it's neighboring Wayne County this meant a whole new department. New prosecutor's office would be introduced to the case. I received the call from the station at eleven thirty, you know, whether or not the Livonia fire department tried to revive the body when they found, and I do not is it true red jagged skateboarders bonded with the body. Understand. The fact I know I saw the red jacket and green pants and the shoes all tentative identification is there. What are you? About signs of violence on the body. And then look like anything. Stabbing shooting anything like that. No open signs that we can see from our position in the middle of the road. The sheriff's department has this area blocked off. So people to work. Checking license numbers and cars early to see perhaps that there's a suspect in the area. Gentlemen. We're doing a number of things that we can't release this time. I still feel the most important aspect of the investigation and get this animal off the street.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Dr. Death

Dr. Death

06:30 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Dr. Death

"For seven years men were vanishing from Toronto's gay village. The community always suspected a serial killer. And they were right in the new season of uncover the village host Justin Ling investigates to spates of brutal murders forty years apart. This is episode one. How can you not see this? You can hear the second half of the series right now at CBC dot CA slash uncover or wherever you're listening right now. Maybe you've seen the headlines in February two thousand nineteen Bruce MacArthur appeared in Toronto courtroom. He was sentenced to life in prison for killing eight men. Macarthur's conviction answered some questions painful questions ones that had hung over Toronto's queer community for years, but it also reopened old mysteries. Mysteries that go. Back decades to a time when being gay meant being a target to win the community had to defend itself because police wouldn't when the closet was for many just a safer choice than coming out to a time when queer people were winding up dead and their killers were getting away with it. Our story starts in two thousand eighteen. Green yard if flowerbeds. This is the section in the middle of it. They tore up last winter and Doug down a few feet took weeks. Of course, they don't call this powdery road area for nothing to ground is wrong. It's a sweltering day in August. I'm in the backyard of tucked away house on a quiet street in Toronto. Here was all green until they came two weeks ago. You can imagine the mess. That it made Karen Fraser lives here. She is an unlikely central figure in this whole story. She's showing me your garden, or at least what's left of it. England can side of this hill. I've known Karen for the better part of year. She's slight she has a head of swept back red hair big Brown eyes, and an oddly endearing sense of humor that is what kept her saying. I think throughout this whole horrifying ordeal. We have deer. Come now. Her secluded backyard slopes down to a pair of railroad tracks beyond that is a deep ravine. Eliminated. Yeah. It's a leafy hideaway in the city. It's also the perfect place to avoid being noticed. Compost pile in the corner for leaves in the fall. And apparently it had things. And then over around here, we'll have to the whole reduce data kits for the major. Just a month before investigators were here combing through her yard her garden and the wooded ravine below they sifted through the dirt and the soil one bucket at a time painstakingly looking for clues it would become the largest forensic investigation in Toronto police history. They scoured it basically scoured it all the way down, but they didn't find anything back here in the end. The dead. Basically all over the ARD cheese. We had a lot of lilies until reply Phillies. Karen is trying to help me picture her yard as it used to be. There were flowerbeds and big colorful stone planters. To daffodils along near lots of Perry. Wing coke. I like it because it starts very early in the spring. You get something all of this was designed and maintained by her faithful gardener, Bruce, and he took good care of it. It was quite lush should Bruce. How does run of Karen's backyard conscientious? Very professional very talented, very kind. Their families had known each other for years. We got a call from Bruce sister saying that her brother had just purchased a gardening business. And she said, I understand you have a double garage, and you're not using it. So simple arrangement. Sure he could store his things in our garage. If he would cut our lawn when we went away on the weekends in the summer and over the years he expanded. He decorated all pots on the property gave us things at Christmas. Yo- it just it grew. Was never social. It was just a nice working relationship. Simple. Not complicated. But it wasn't a one man job. What do you remember about the people who went the hand when he was landscaping your place? Many of them were. Obviously newcomers some were quite shy. Most we saw once sometimes just head of hair going by the window holding up to hanging baskets. We didn't actually meet him at all. I think of all the men who met the horrible fate. I know I met one I think I met a second, man. One time very shy stared at the ground, and Bruce, and I were bantering back and forth. And I could see that demand. He had with him was staring at the ground and laughing because he found it funny to second man, I really felt sorry for him. He was off to the side. And Bruce was annoyed with him said. He's just not going to work out.

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"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

04:28 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

"It started quietly enough. A couple of stories got a couple of shares on social media. And then they got a few more, and then some public figures shared them, and then some politicians, and then it kept going it is still going. In fact, this is the story of how candidate took its first fake news test of the two thousand nineteen election and flunked it badly. This is a case study of one little website. How it snooker thousands of Canadians? And what happens when you go looking for the people behind this stuff? And it is also a warning because it's about to get a whole lot worse between now and October. And it is pretty clear that we are not as good at sniffing out fake news as we like to think we are. I'm Jordan heath Rawlings. And this is the big story. Justin Ling as a reporter a podcast or his new podcast uncover. The village is about the Bruce MacArthur case and comes out April. Second CBC podcast network. Hi, jessica. Hey, good morning. We're talking about fake news specifically we're starting with the buffalo chronicle, which is what? And where did you first encounter it? Oh, where did I I and counter it? So there was a point where I think I was just sitting on Twitter. And and the story popular I think someone tweeted at me, and they said you what is this that? I remember looking at the the name the buffalo chronicle and thinking I have I have no idea I'm not super up on upstate New York newspapers. So I thought maybe it's a local paper, I clicked the link, but the story I I think the first story was about this supposed- deal that the federal government with a cut for the Bank of Montreal. Supposedly, the Bank of Montreal had been engaged in what? Call it a essentially a bribery campaign to get first nations in British Columbia on board with the trans mountain pipeline. Wow. Supposedly that bribery campaign ran afoul of the criminal code. And that there was a prosecution in the works now juicy. Oh, yeah. Huge huge scoop for the buffalo chronicle not only that though, but the new attorney general had been seeking a deferred prosecution agreement. So that the Bank of Montreal wouldn't get convicted. Okay. And I'm reading this. And I'm going, I know this is nonsense. I am I from from the complete just made up BS. You know? Of course, you can't give it further prosecution agreement to somebody who's not being prosecuted Bank of Montreal is not being prosecuted become Montreal had a stake in the acquisition of the transplant pipeline by the federal government, it it's not bribing for it completely defies logic. All the details that are in the story. Yeah. And yet, I you know, I kind of do a Twitter search and it's being shared be it steadily. It's going around. I'm thinking what that what the heck is the site. What is the buffalo chronicle? Yeah. So, you know, at first it is a little bit of, you know, weird curiosity. Hello through the site. Looked at some of the other other coverage. They don't cover Canada the most they've done is. They've they've linked back to some stories. A lot of local Montreal stories. They posted a handful of Canadian Press stories that best I can tell the Nautica impress clients. So they stole the the story has posted to their website. Okay. Do they cover buffalo for the record? Did they do cover buffalo? They actually are the really the only thing that cover a really really inside baseball. Buffalo city hall a little bit from the New York state assembly and then random Canadian stories, so it's a real mixed bag of a website. Okay. Couple lifestyles stories here, and there are a couple columns. So I'm now intensely curious, but with the site is so I checked in it doesn't strike me that it's a, you know, it's going to be the shoe issue. So I I kind of leave it, but it took back every once in a while. And just the story after story. There's a story saying that Tony Wilson Ray Bolger is going to run for the Indy p she's gonna become MVP leader. She's going. To meet saying, it'd be the new leader of the MVP. There's a there's a story on their claiming that a former supreme court Justice is actually the puppet master behind everything everything from the trans about Naquib, the two things are really focus on on this website, the trans mountain acquisition by the federal government, and this deferred prosecution. Even instance laflin supposedly on this former supreme court Justice. What's behind all of it? He was the puppet. Master pulling the strings behind Justin Trudeau, and Jodie Wilson variable and everybody the deep state. Yeah. Exactly. The does the deep state, and it's by Frankie Lia Bucci, the former supreme court Justice. So that's fun. So I in more and more of these stories pop up our these stories reported, by the way, who writes them who who's quoted in them just give me an example. So

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"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

10:19 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on The Big Story

"The big story is brought to you by Scotia. I trade there's a traitor in all of us. Think about solitary confinement, and the Hollywood machine takes over you might think of a remorseless killer shut-away and a dark hole or a deranged inmate isolated to keep the rest of the population safe. I don't know maybe you think of one about man's archenemies. The point is solitary holds a place in popular culture that is often at odds with how it's actually used. And most of us are only now coming to grips with just how different solitary is in reality from television. In fact, Canada has been ordered to end the practice precisely because it's not used for the people. You think it's used for Canada was given a year to eliminate what it calls solitary confinement, and to create new regulations around it now that year is almost up, and how close are we to actually ending a practice that critics say meets the United Nations definition of torture. We're not nearly close enough. And what happens when that deadline passes? And there is no new legislation. Nobody really knows. But we are about to find out. Jordan Rollins, and this is the big story. A lot of the people who get put in this situation are not a danger in some cases, they're actually the most vulnerable people in prisons. Justin Ling is a freelance writer who's written for publications like the global mail, the walrus Maclean's and today we're talking to him about a piece he wrote for national magazine, the official periodical of the Canadian bar association. What kind of rules govern solitary confinement in Canada, currently the correctional services act governs how someone's allowed to be put in what the act calls administrative segregation which mystic way of saying solitary confinement. The rules do provide oversight, you know, the institution has to keep reporting back as to why they're keeping people in solitary confinement or sorry administrative. Segregation, right? I, you know, there has to be a reason for putting them there. Although those reasons are often nebulous and hard to pin down and those inmates barring a security concern or whether have to be outside for an hour a day and cannot be a captain in confinement for for more than twenty two hours at a time. They need at least two hours out of their cell one of which is usually outdoors. That's kind of it. And even those those sort of regulations can be bendable and changed based on the situation. Jade. Inmates. Are also supposed to have contact with their family. This supposed to be able to have phone call. They're supposed to be allowed to bring their effects their books their blankets into their cell. But a lot of the time for seemingly some of the time that even that doesn't necessarily happen often this of human conduct. You get is much less than what a human being actually needs to honestly, stay sane. So what is going on with solitary confinement and Canada right now, and I'm gonna call it solitary rather than administrative segregation, just because it's a more widely understood term, well the courts actually agree with you. So over the last couple of years two different groups have filed constitutional challenges to Canada's solitary confinement regime. One of those challenges was in the British Columbia the BBC's liberty this season. And one of them was in Ontario by the Canadians liberties association now in both cases, they were challenging the constitutionality of solitaire confinement under section seven of the charter in rights to the freedom. The rich says what we have the right to liberty safety and security of the person. Okay. So both constitutional challenges turned on the idea that solitary confinement or administrative segregation the government calls it deprives inmates of their section seven charter rights the life, the right to life liberty and security of the person. And in those challenges they cited numerous examples where people were being held in solitary confinement for at least twenty two hours a day where the meaningful human contact. They received was often through the food slot in their doors. So when a nurse came by kind of per the regulations to check on their health and safety. It was done through a slot in the door and imagine getting a checkup through, you know, a, you know, maybe a seven by two inch hole in your door. It's it's absurd. Checks by the head of the institution are done to the slot in the door a phone call the receivers pass through the slot in the door your food is passed that slot. Otherwise, you're talking about it. You know, I I think a seven by ten foot cell with windows. Yeah. Basically, no way. Windows your time outdoors. I spoke to one lawyer who represented who was dealt with, you know, some some clients who have been in solitary often, you can stand when they bring outside for your our outdoor time. You're standing in an area that's not much bigger than your cell surrounded on most sides by concrete or brick and on one side by barbed wire fence, you can only see really outdoors looking up to the sun. That's not meaningful time outside that's just outdoor solitary confinement. Sanctional you don't talk to other people. You don't see other people? You don't get exercise. And what both challenges said is that this is solitary confinement as defined by the UN conventions against torture. There's something called the Mandela rules that say Soltero confinement consists of keeping someone in a cell small cell by themselves twenty two hours a day without meaningful human contact. And especially if that lasts for more than thirty days candidate does that all the time thousands and thousands of cases a year consists of keeping someone in a windowless cell for more than twenty two. For at least twenty two hours a day. The court says it will call it administrative segregation, call it whatever you want. This is solitary confinement, solitary confinement is more or less torture. You need to stop doing this. The court said this is unconstitutional, you have twelve months to fix this. When was that in the -tario case that was last December in the British Columbia case, it was last January time's up the time is up. And here's the problem when a court suspended exploration of invalidity is that call it or basically when they strike down the law, and they give you some time to go and be right. The law usually governments you get to work you'll you start immediately. When this happened in the Carter decision when the supreme court, basically says our laws on assisted dying right insufficient. Parliament had to go back and start working on those laws. Now, unfortunately, in that case, there is an election. So after the election, the Trudeau government had to come to the supreme court and say we didn't have enough time. There's an election. This was you know, if extrordinary circumstance we need some more time the supreme court said in this one case. Because you can point to a very exceptional circumstance where you couldn't you know, any possible way be writing legislation concerning there was election. We'll give you a little more time not as much as you want. But we'll give you a little more time, and they use that time in and actually got the lawn place before the law was actually struck down. And there is no laws governing it in this circumstance. You know what? The canes have liberties association as saying is you don't have any reason while you didn't get this law done. It took them ten months. Ten months after that first decision to get along place. It's called Bill Eighty-three before parliament. Now, you actually write the lot introduce it. Yeah. That laws still being debated. The government does not think it's going to pass that law before July. That's seven months on top of that twelve months. They already got. Now, they're going to the court and arguing before the interior court of appeal saying, oh, we need more time any more time. Why do they need more time? It's totally unclear. They were actually there. They actually put forward, you know, evidence to back up why the time the evidence as the canes delivered. Association pointed out was little more that, you know, a basically affidavit from a law clerk, citing publicly available documents describing what Bill CD three does they didn't provide any reasons whether took all of this time, and the judge you could tell was skeptical from the get go. The attorney general was ordered to go basically, go back to the drawing board and come back with not only kind of reasons why they take so long. But also an explanation of how Bill CDs three actually addresses the original judgment that found that the the the whole system was unconstitutional. There's actually a real skepticism that Bill c three will even fix the original things laid out by the courts. What does that solution? Look like how different is Bill c Eighty-three from what we now consider administrative segregation. Well, they changed the name of it again. Which is the real good is there from the gecko. Now, I it's structured intervention units. And this is I think anyone who really follows us, and it it bothered me that there's not more coverage of this. I even feel like I've been deficient in my coverage of this because I. Didn't even know about Bill three. I forgotten that was coming up. This had been totally off my radar until someone actually kinda poke me and said, you should really look at this. And when I started looking at this is absurd the functional difference between the the structure intervention units and administrative. Segregation is it. Yes. There will be more time outside your cell. There will be more time outdoors. You're talking about twenty hours a day in yourselves opposed to twenty two and you're talking to hours outside as opposed to one that technically gets you outside the definition torture in what solitary confinement is under the Mandela rules. But a lot of people are saying that's still doesn't cut it. And for some people that might be appropriate. You know, for the most hardened criminals who are a danger to themselves and others. But a lot of the people who get put in the situation are not a danger in some cases, they're actually the most vulnerable people in prison. We've heard from the from you know, these lawyers from from prisoners rights advocates saying that a lot of times prisons. I will end up putting people in there who are former cops who are LGBTQ prisoners people. Who basically the the prison says if we keep you in general population, you could get stabbed. Yeah. The only way to protect you is to put you in a cell by yourself. The problem is, you know, the rules are not in place. And the the oversight is not in place to make sure that there will taken care of all they're there, and they can get out if they need to be taken out. Up next. There's so many problems here. And and frankly, it's I think everyone's confounded, but how sort of indifferent? The government seems to this.

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"justin ling" Discussed on Front Burner

Front Burner

08:56 min | 1 year ago

"justin ling" Discussed on Front Burner

"This is a CBC podcast. Hi, I'm Debbie. So at this point, we have a lot of evidence the Russian government has been messing and other people's elections. Of course, there was a two thousand sixteen US presidential race top US intelligence agencies. Have concluded that Russia interfered charges twelve Russian military officers by name the defense used a network of computers around the world. Russian meddling was a central theme. An unprecedented fake news inquiry that happened in London just yesterday who you can. Company knew about this activity at buying no ninety get there are two different pieces of parliamentarians from nine countries including Canada where present because it's not just the US. There was the French election the Brexit referendum and quite a few other races in Europe. There's even been finds that accounts linked to Russia heaven active here in Canada today on front burner could Russia half a Canadian election. And are we ready for that the ruse processes in place to turn a hacking campaign into a disinformation campaign? There is a very well oiled machine play here. And I think we're ignorant to that. Then we're gonna get into a lot of trouble. Hi, my name is Justin Ling. I'm a freelance journalist in Toronto. And I just wrote story for the walrus about the potential for Russian meddling in Canada this conversation in January two thousand seventeen you got a message on Twitter, and is from the press secretary of the Russian embassy in Ottawa. It's it's a story about Christian freelance grandfather, a very unflattering story better family history. Can you tell me about that message? So the message actually came from the official Russian embassy Twitter account this been happening for a while. I've actually become somewhat friends with the guy who I know runs the accounts career Kalinin and we'd go for beers. Okay. Usually just chatting I'm fascinated by Crain Russian politics. So he would just sit and kind of you know, shoot the breeze over a beer. He definitely had a bit of a pension for selling stories that I knew to be untrue. There was one circumstance where we're sitting around. And he's telling me how during the euro my Don protests in Kiev couple years ago. Because you know, the sniper that killed a number of people go. Yeah. I know you're talking about he goes, well that was actually one of the protesters. They made look like it was government forces production of the protesters. And I said, I know that's not true. I know for fact that that is a line that's been used by a number of Russian state broadcasters to discredit the protesters in Crain's new leaders pumped the blame solely on former President Yanukovych is security forces are cut a lonely. Figuring challenging that line. So I knew that was nonsense. So in the end, I knew that he was putting fake news from the very beginning. Nevertheless, really nice guy. So he sort sending me these messages saying take a look at this take a look at this. And it's a pretty complex set of research. There's a link to some archives LA the link to some archives Alberta. There's you know, Kapiti page something else and all together. But a guy named Michael show me back. Michael acquis, the editor in chief of you. Ukrainian, nationalist newspaper around the outside of war two. He stayed on editor in chief after the paper was effectively co opted and run by the Nazi regime. Now, the location of all this was muggle show. Mak worked in collaboration with the Nazis. Michael show me act is Christina freelance grandfather. Now, we had a bit of a back and forth on this. And I said, you know, I don't think this is a story. Even if it's true. I don't see how you can hold Christopher when accountable for whatever grandfather did. And the reality is the whole situation is quite complicated. You can certainly hold him at fault for staying on at that newspaper, but history's very complex Essy's the reality of it. And she hasn't necessarily been secretive about she actually co wrote a paper about her grandfather that tried to deal with that complex history. He said to me, wouldn't it be interesting? If somebody asked her about the press conference, and I said, maybe it's not going to be me still after you get that Twitter exchange. With this official at the Russian embassy, and you decide that this isn't a story for you. Like, it just doesn't meet the bar gas of public interest. What happens to that story in very short order it pops up online. So the number of outlets online that start publishing pretty pretty extrordinary pieces about Christa Freeland calling her family Nazi apologist Nazi collaborators saying that she tried to hide her family history. And all this extraordinary tales and a lot of them directly link her grandfather to her current policies regarding Ukraine, so suggesting that she is sympathetic or in collaboration with far-right militias and groups in Ukraine, which is wildly just untrue. It's no basis for saying that, but it became pretty clear that point you know, that was the goal from the beginning was to try to solely her reputation. But the fact is there was an attempt to weaponize information by the Russian embassy, and when these stories are. Popping up online. Where are they popping up? Are they popping up in the global mail or they're pumping in some pretty shady websites. One of them is run by a guy who has worked in Moscow for a number of years who's at virtually American aggressively. Pro Kremlin point of view, there's other outlets that are just known for peddling conspiracy theories and innuendo but everything from Chem trails to whether manipulation to nine eleven conspiracy theories so faster than promulgates online. But it doesn't quite break through the ice. And it doesn't quite get any sort of public consciousness until finally Bob five of the globe and mail and ask Christine Freeman about the story is it's kind of bouncing around online. He doesn't do it quite like the Russian embassy had wanted him to of course, recently. There has been a series of articles about you your maternal grandparents making accusations that he was an option. Operator in pro Russian websites. I like to get your view on do you see this as a disinformation campaign by the Russians to try to smear? You discredit you which is a fair question that it is. Public knowledge that there have been efforts. As a US intelligence forces have said by Russia to destabilise US political system. I think that Canadians and indeed other Westcountry should be prepared for similar efforts to be directed at after he asked that question that story was absolutely everywhere. In the end, I can only imagine that Carrillo in the Russian embassy was there laughing to himself because it didn't quite get there. I think in the way that he would have hoped, but the story basically had desired effect. There was a conversation had about Christopher Nolan whether or not her grandfather was the defacto Nazi or non and a lot of those conspiracy theories about her being sympathetic to and do semitic or far, right or extremist groups in Ukraine started happening. Maybe not a very high level. Maybe not go in male. But there is a lot of websites, and there's a lot of discussion boards in Twitter accounts and Facebook groups in you name it which started talking about Christopher Linda's champ. Ian of Neo Nazi extremism and Ukraine, which is again completely baseless. There's no evidence for this. I've seen stories online that suggests she's approved sales of automatic weapons to these groups or that she's authorized training for these groups. There is no evidence of that. If anything the evidence, we have is that they've deliberately excluded these groups they've deliberately made sure that you know, far right extremists. Do not get any funding or training for the Canadian government. Nevertheless, this idea has still managed to manifest itself online. And so this starts with a very small group of websites, then it makes its way into mainstream media, and then it gets picked up by this other constellation met work of websites as you just explained started soon his back and forth happening in the media between you all beds, and let us the editor Neo pundits going back and forth. Saying will, you know, this is a perfectly fine thing to discuss, you know, maybe we should have a conversation about whether or not you family's history is is pretty bad or not which to some degree. I suppose is fine. But we also have to recognize where it came from. We can't just cover our. And pretend like Russia had nothing to do with this. Can

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"justin ling" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

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"justin ling" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

"As men disappeared from the heart of toronto's gave village the community began to fear the worst what if they'd been killed today those fears were confirmed toronto homicide detective hank it singa announced that a man has been charged with firstdegree murder in the disappearances of andrew kinsman and salim essen the detective also said quote we believe he is responsible for the deaths of other men who have yet to be identified in other words we believe there are other victims unquote freelance journalist justin ling has been investigating disappearances around the village for the past two years we reach mr ling in toronto just in in addition to learning that this man has been charged with two counts of first degree murder what else did we learn from police today so we learned a little it kind of how the sky supposedly knew the two victim particularly when it comes to enter confirmed police say that he would carry on a sexual relationship with many at the time of his death which obviously gives them a pretty good can lead to figure out how they knew each other but i think primarily we learned that milat become be basically said they only really cracked the case last night the arrest only came this morning so realistically there's probably now you'll months and months if not years of work ahead of them the figure of if there's other victims figure out how he met them to figure out where the bodies or the wants to come on the state and it the detectives hank seemed actually said does that he said as the announce it this sixty six year old man boost macarthur and selfemployed landscaper and he was being charged with these murders they said debt lee believes he is responsible for the deaths as celine essen and andrew kinsmen and he believes he is responsible for the deaths of other men who have yet to be identified what does that tell you well first of it told me that the probably looking to the three other missing persons cases.

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