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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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How Hot Is This Episode? with Getting Curious LIVE!

"Welcome to getting curious. I'm jonathan bandit and once in a while i sit down for gorgeous conversation in front of a brilliant audience when we used to do those sorts of things and hopefully we'll do it soon for our last two episodes we're giving you getting curious. Live a mash up of our favorite tapings from festivals to earth up and even a cruise i up recordings from cluster pres- and outside lands in san francisco and vulture best in new york. Hey i never hear like the whole version of this song. It's so good. It's just like those like i said. How's everyone doing this gorgeous. San franciscan day honey feels cool okay. So i'm really excited at getting curious is something i don't do so so much. Today's topic's going to you. Know i would rather have here. It's kind of rude. it's like a fake out. It seems like it's going to be queer eye but it's not. I mean they call out everyone. That's gonna come out. They're going to have a really gorgeous. You know model walking moment. I'm really honored to enjoy my four stunning comedians. That i'm going to attempt to call in the right order. I can feel my friend and producers chief punching from here i we have a very talented comedian and entertainer singer songstress actress comedian katherine cohen own. My god i'm how are you never been better on. Love your look so much tika. See you love your. She'll neck next. I love this. Thank you so much. I can see everyone behind. We are going to welcome our next guest absolutely stunned. And i have to say has a dirty rooted always gives me life. Put your hands together for. Julio torres low and dan our next we love publico win russia. And i loved it all right next to me. We love so much. Put your hands together for ios debris even during this little one and she's really been showing me the and making me laugh so hard and in addition to making me lap so dang hard leaving me breathless. Blow my hair back all the time. Because he's so funny. Put your hands together for book. Young whites so welcome welcome. Welcome hi i not to call myself but like i can't believe sometimes you just can't that's reasonable okay. So you guys are like all working for russians. comedians. I've worked with i have not gotten to work with i l. but i know that you're really putting a lot of your material. Did but it was just happened in the last two weeks so like my together. I'm honored i'm on. I have had the honor of performing with these three. And you guys. All collectively i think are just defining voices of generation. I think that you're like moving the ball forward. I think that it's like i'm very excited to be here with you. All taught me something over this last year and a half since i started doing comedy like officially because it really was. I always say. I was more like mrs measles except for not married and in new york and You know but i. I was just twenty miles craft behind the salon chair for like thirteen years. Hey here so far from me. I can't hear what's going on over here. i'm just like yes. I loved that. I can't hear. I love you to death. My trust that what you're saying i can smile and go. I support. they're laughing. I feel like. I need to react. Like i feel like this is like that thing when you when you have like when you're working like everybody can't even fucking seeing that must mean that they're little ear thing was off even have your things. What's happening for me is that i've been looking very intensely at everybody's mouth could have you been able to answer to me. Basically you're talking yes well and it helps a lot because sound wise. We're very distant from each other. Okay i mean sure all you guys can relate to this. I'm sure i think. I think when there's this much white leather in a room. The rules as there's something about the chairs also probably a campfire campfire sales more intimate thing industry. We're literally cheated. You'd better fell. It really felt like Like we were the un with little interpreters and we were like an drastically different continents. Which is like okay. I think we're bombing as it's gonna get. I don't know wars are started world. Just yeah over there. It's definitely been a journey getting back together. Happy that we're here. Yeah really great. Her literally sucky. Hey hey bob you know what. I'm obsessed with every single fucking thing you're wearing just wonder i just wonder all make i was gonna just make you do it but then i realized that we should all fucking do it really fun game. I didn't prepare anyone for it. Looks but i think we should do it. We have to commit but like you just had to be creative. We literally did this. We did this query auditions. You have to. You don't have to really like during like you. Just wanna talk comedy and like how we all got here but if you wanna take a gentle writes absolutely you had to be seized impromptu show and tell it can be anything it could like for me. I wanted to show until your outback. Like not give anyone like heads out. That is me giving you a notable heads up so yes yeah so is Anything there's i mean. All i see is fucking props around. That's an artist minded creative. Yeah yeah okay so straws or something julie true. You think we're just how should we pick. Who's gonna go first so that it's like a fair an example. Yes so there you know you go for me too. Yeah oh leader. Okay okay okay so it would be like So it'd be like okay. He's searching. he's he's so. This is my greatest choice. This and i really need my tape. Because when i'm on tour. I do gymnastics routine and without this tape i would not be able to take my sting matt to this other so i don't break my ankles. It's release supportive and and this isn't pictured here but this you can also this can double the bingo which is also great. It can also be it can also be more here which also know what it's more there and also if you didn't have athletic you could also wrap your ankle with this. If you're dealing with the sprain so this is oh and also in rhythmic gymnastics. There's there's so there is that Knowing that i know how to fucking decide. I already realized that i know how to decide who should go first. Oh i already realized. 'cause i watch miss universe and to know how to do this. Okay what did you learn. Did he say miss universe. This is just like miss universe. I was thinking what i said. Un matt i'm julie summer between one and ten and then whoever gets the closest a it'd be should it be should it be like ru paul's drag race challenge rules. Where if you get closest you get to decide that order. It's not really a contest. That doesn't make sense. I think it should be whoever gets. It has to go first and then you know because really no. You don't even staying like what is everyone's talking to me. It's actually giving away okay. Okay okay no no no okay. I have my number one in ten julie verification. So that there's no fucking rushing around here. This is so fucking fair and square sofa game bruin square and also like it's not a competition so it's not really the same as that one time was because this is really more just for fun. You know what i'm saying. So number between one and ten please. One four five seven while the price is right. I really scared so then. I guess it's like who got closest without going over right prices right rules. Well the number was two. It was julie can verify. I did text it to her. And i wanted to kind of be your friend because i i was taking seven and then i thought no seven is the sexiest. I think you're gonna go for i. I don't have that much on me right now. I have a birthmark. show there. oh it's kinda in shape of an asterisk. And when i was young like that means that special because i'm like an exception or whatever and then i went to dermatologist a while ago and they were like we should maybe taken off. It looks a little troubling and it has orders. Hairs is at the borders. The like it's kinda grow a little asymmetrical but he's been there for so long and just let them hang out for a little bit of so. Yeah if you guys were really really good i am. I am not not concerned okay. Let's let's let's have a we will have a meaning afterwards. Then you said for you said five and you said and then so i think really. You'll be going next because it's the closest to going all right so how d- gang the the object item that i'll be showing telling is my t shirt. Yes it's a it's a good the bad and the ugly shirt. And it's a western. Those are fun. And i wear this. Because i am insecure about the fact that i got a bfa. And so. i guess. I need to always let people know That i watched and movie and at every party than white guy who also studied film will come up to me and go. Yeah but did you. I'm going me and it's sorta does all the things shirt should do. I love the talk. And i talked and i taught and that sort of in your school of thought nine hands but in the in the sort of work unlike unlike a more like an. I'm like a floaty girl. Yeah no there's a flow and then like a feeling ashamed. I did not mean to step on your show. And i invited. You know i know you Telling my community okay. I'm sitting those gorgeous now. Me well i know. I know what it is okay. So there's we want to show. It is my comedy notebook jokes. That have my pocket because i thought that this was a stand up show but you know 'cause i what is what is my biggest flaw is i. Don't open an even. Oh yeah roughly ten thousand emails half of them from cluster fest and and i you know jonathan there and then it's like oh it's a i can relax it's a it's a fun easygoing panel. So then they they want so then. The jokes can now rest. They know if you're really trying to slay competition though maybe you were like maybe you just like caesar moment and like do like a tight. Three or something with your. Oh talks you really overrated. I just i just want you to imagine. I just want us to collectively imagine the kind of sociopath i would have to be is come up younger like both know. Do you do like three impressions. Impressions is hell brisk. Business is held. I'm watching the fire just like you ought so delighted rolling totally l. too so early watching being is attendance warmth z. Right now to hit hard and distracted with another everything. Custom-made do all about yes. Hero shoes you made that. Sure taylor me bet shirt he would he put the sequence on it and i i wish the fabric came like this major and this is what's made by my sister really. Yes you ever graham. Oh my god. Oh sure. I the one thing that trump and i share. I don't care about building. An empire made my entire family. Thank you joe nepotism. Here we come into atmore tanya bags chester. Thank you she queen. I didn't even know that your little bag designer. Yeah she literally pack. I love that. Wow scape do you. Also fear like walked into walked into it to be fair. I walked in team. Potential team three absolutely really felt like a willful meander. I was just like setting you up like a gorgeous. Ted talk like stunning moment. He hasn't been really pretty like just like been like especially that one bit that you do about like your favorite com- remembering mike to your mouth. We own that was. What's of the clapping going to sorry to choreography. Plans have been furious. Yeah you could've done like a tuck. I don't so it's like everybody does. Somebody's joke than i do. Like a double back. Flip into the sky moves of course. What is your standing by cancerous. I would like to see that as well. I think my body success way. What we should adult gymnastics together. That is something that you actually want. It is that's really. I love gymnastics body. That projects athleticism but nothing actually bends telling you is jagged is jagged edges like an action figure where it's like oh that looks like strong and malleable and we could get answering on a trampoline. I'm just saying under sign. My entire personality stems from the fact. That i've never been able to do a cartwheel my whole life even when i was little pathetic i can never do first of all. It's hard to accredit car. Wheels are literally hard. There's there's like all these these little car cartwheel's children especially way too casual wills. Children are odds and always carpooling. I feel like a child. Just biafran honey during the corden. Show and tell you guys. Did you hear my the sound of my bare ass weather. That's how you know it's skirt that when you get hot like shrinks up so hope you like what you see. This is a wrap skirt from rat. Reformation cheers years ago i got blackout drunk and email them saying please make bigger sizes and guess what they actually did. So we love. We love that. That's important to get my show until I would be remiss. If i didn't sort of show and tell about my leg hair because it is present. I did not have shaved in a few days a few weeks even because it's a boring and because society because society so if you ever thought about that so i do have a really gorgeous patterns stubble right now. This book from where. I'm really come on. Zoom zoom zoom sulfurous. But i wanted. I wanted this intimate and it was like even their miles away. Even though my legs looks smooth as barbie i wanted you guys to spill zoom to know that they are hairy. 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If you're getting serious about where else you can get surprisingly great rates checkout state farm for car insurance it doesn't take special connection or knowing someone on the inside to get a surprisingly great rate go to state firm dot com or visit a local agent today like a good neighbour. Stay is there. I am so excited to be here. My god it's i i saw. I can't believe i'm that is the biggest No that's the thing about that particular catchphrase that makes me like a little sadikin. Sometimes it's actually say that all the time in my life. And now i feel like when i meet someone like chatting and they can you believe in. There wasn't trying to like. I like this. Actually really do enjoy thing. And it means a lot like that phrase expresses so much for me. She's like my windex phrases. Like greek wedding. You know thing for everything. Okay so our guest numero well. I'm a mysterious person. I don't know how many guests we have. There could be seven. there could be two. There could be eleven time. We have so our i guess is someone who really really look up to. In so many ways she burst onto the scene. She really just got to break through your just really through us. The lifeline of last and t- that we were needing her name is michelle. Welcome without further ado here. I do a lot of shoulder there so good my ankles were shaking so bad so now i'm like i feel like life essentially like the kyw. You're kind the new fiancee of comedy. I if i could wear a leotard i would. I would do that. I would oh you. She really revolutionized not wearing pants. Honestly and i'm on that train. I'm here for it. And if i wasn't so like in just such a story addict flare right now. I would have really. I mean i still almost didn't care giving you a little bit of it but have really got rid of wasn't as you know i i love i like this is my dream to never wear pants i but i can't i don't know how she she dances. How does she dance. I okay my. I two best friends patty and julie and they're like to my best friends and what they pointed out to me when my friend julie is the girl i do. Those beyond see dances with sometimes on the graham. Take one way beyond it. Gives you like a. She gives you more of a chunky sensible. He'll like it's more like a character. He'll so the pivot turn hit. It's not like that. It's like if you really changing course it's like you're not going to explain your ain't gonna be so mad. If i were her. I was watching like okay. We're at the concert. I'm beyond where we're dancing all around and then jay z. Just like walking. It's like haven't you done enough. I like i please. I would actually be part of their dance now. What an epi fun vibes. It was like a new kind of like gene. Kelly thing like like like like if they could do. Like w hewlett for one number be really far from israel everything off. It's like it's like she loves to throw like a new creative god. I love her so much. Not not talk about you. But i think the september vogue beyond i mean i mean. He is the new everything she like. Sorry i'll do the cover. But i have to like do all i do. Have one tiny gripe. Is that a little too into flowers these days. We'll be on everything. She takes pregnancy photo in front of flower. She takes the newborn photo in front of a bunch of flowers. There's a whole bush's really interleague power. I feel like. I haven't here for age just a lot of floral i want like a vine my to be. I think i think i like buying. Yeah but no. She's i mean she took over the magazine. I don't think anna has it anymore. Ooh what have you heard. I have any guys have. I just think it's mine now and then ano- is like okay all right. Hey so we have a really special guys really excited to bring her out you guys without any further ado florence. Wow much faffing. Thank you so much management quickly. Say the time like. I'm so obsessed with people in their natural. Like i always like find something that i'm obsessed with someone you know like you're at the money. Yeah when oh you're. I'm working with the makeup artist or ahead status. I ivory bad for them because they arrive. And i'm like please don't do your job. Don't do anything says for just done. It's not going to have a lot of it doesn't if a lot of makeup on me doesn't i mean well in your line of work you need to be able to be in your comfort and in your power and be and so it's like if you're feeling like you because you're such an organic artists probably just doesn't resonate and your gorgeous solar plexus it is funny i well when i was younger and i was just starting out i remember seeing. I pressed shot. That i did of me. I i used to my dad's close Because my dad huddled these old levi's so my uniform. When i was nineteen twenty years i would just cut cut his jeans up which i don't know how pleased he was but they were perfect. 'cause they were so all just a awareness shorts and then one of his shirts and tons of jewelry and i did. I just showed up like that. And they took a picture and goofy smile. I remember seeing in in the paper like an english paper. And i looked i went. No no no. That's to me. And then i as i protection. I put cited like wearing way more makeup glitter and the hagop bright red and i bleed try eyebrows because think really scared to how long's lungs era if anyone remember. I completely leeched off all my eyebrows. I kind of let can alien. But i but it was like a so i had a i had okay so i had this dog days and eyebrows and a fringe into a point. I love that. Don't come from full edgy. I love it like moving. It was and it was kind of. I was going through a drunk golfing. We love that was always covered in mud and beer and i had no eyebrows screaming all the time it was that we all have yours. I mean we all have any rally touring and we didn't really have any money for cost you so we just had tin suitcase. Full of basically like tights. Ot shirts and snowballs vodka. Like when you were a little baby who were you like. I mean like obsessed with silence. Tickly like who was like you're like michelle kwan. Who is your biggest gainer like. Who are you know what. I mean Okay so. I was an well when i was really young. I was nine hundred so the spice girls spice cows on gwen stefani no dow. Yeah so i went to school. We would have these days you come in. We had a school uniform. But you could come in your own clothes. Sometimes on special days and i remember going to school. This is this. This is going to be my defining. Look and it's a really weird kid you can imagine. So this is what's make everyone realise that i'm cool. I the weirdest thing is the lost. Additionally almost got it right. I had these gym member buffalo platform so i had blue buffalo platforms like sneakers but a huge platform purple crushed velvet flares going. Well it's going well like a little like not so it's still going. Well you're killing era simpson's okay okay you you you did really well the loss of ten but then this simpson. I was obsessed with wearing all purple. Bernie's were like a purple barney's ones jumper. It was like because i was like really obsessed with bernie. So even when i was ten and then doc martens really in a hanson decal on the back of the barney to like bring to like modernize that we. What town are you from from london. South on southbound from cambo which is in that song. Grace grace is here hike. Raise highgrading on my mind. My nieces hit. They loved the song grace. And i'm sorry again star when the door opened up a little taylor data or a husband daniel. Hi graham's share. Your family time with us. I like chicken like you're performing tonight and it's actually like where i'm going at the end just like my like my brain just kicked in. I said that really what i really want to talk about was when i got to meet you in the face and i almost had like a nervous breakdown in brooklyn lake minding my own like i didn't really know what to expect so i was just like company until like that sounds amazing. She's like my. Of course i'm gonna come here. I'm dying. I'm living and i was like looking down having a mom and then i looked up. And you're seeing doctors in my face. And then i made this base that i've never made in. My life was like photographed extensively. That was major for me picture. We're going to so chill. Because i don't think people could secured people can't see that anywhere right like there's no video of it anywhere. No there's not there's not really. It was like this. I was seeing this. I was thinking sky full of song which is about thunder. And as i was singing. It this big storm just rolled in just for that song and enrolled out within this like billowing gorgeous like i feel like your dress was like tight your body with an over like lake overly floaty like a little not like blake with floaty but like mortar. Your body voting than the catholic. A little coat look like overlay jacket. Thing really really the moment because when you like went to the side and just like blue into when you were just like wailing on that gorgeous song more than anyone could handle it. There wasn't a dry the house but like if you're outside and it rains like that's like electrical hazard. Does that ever a thing through any did play. We did get pulled up. Stage swede like family history and in my followed around by storms and whether it does take we have like even going back to like. We have family history off. We've been involved in like huge floods kinda comes into my life. These and i don't know i see that it does you do. I love performing outside. Because i i always think playing outside of myself as well so when you there you really get to be really connected with whatever because when i'm playing. I'm not really sure what's happening a lot of the time i know i mean i go to a point but when you're playing something else takes over you and sometimes in those moments you really feel that you're like oh it's it's here stephanie. Profound definitely feel you got about like or like jesus specifically i was like grow up like very very religious and like i mean just like in a religious household so like i don't i don't know exactly where that lands for me but i definitely believe in like a something like when you see like when you did. That is like a thing like it was for that song. I mean it was like the wind machine was four your hair like from mother nature like you couldn't organiz that and there's certain times like certain things happened where i'm like. I don't know like what book or what word i believe him. But like there's definitely a something and even like in my fucking life like you guys like get out of my face like they're like there's definitely like a things some wear where we i think when i when i kind of met you at the show and my sister was actually message. You matt jonathan. He's so beautiful with messaging me issues really care about this show. She was like you met. And i was like i did a show whatever your show and then and then i watched the whole series is so important. What you're doing and so kind and it feels really. I don't like angels. Angels came to my chrome os. Here he would tell me like take the compliment. Take sweating so perfect. Look up to you like so much for such a long time. I mean your music is like. I don't know i've always been like musically to like. I just love like a female voice. Nothing like male artists. But like there's just like. I grew up on whitney and like mariah and like the like that sort of like. Yeah more like. I'm obsessed with my mom and like all of the women in my life so strong and like and also like boys are just like so mean to me growing up. There was something about like female driven music. Me like when. I felt like my most powerful. My most like your music has always spoken to me like so much. Hey are you looking for new wardrobe this summer. How about trying a sustainable one this year. Did you know that drifting an item instead of buying it new reduces its carbon waste and water footprint by eighty two percent show the planet some love by shopping at threat up an online thrift store with over thirty five thousand brands all up to ninety percent of estimated retail value. And now you can get an extra thirty percent off your first order at throughout dot com slash j. b. n. You can shop brands for clothing handbags shoes and more for less scores zara in nike from six dollars. 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That people who i look up to and pinker amazing would think that we were or like our friends and i went over my head so this actor is so incredibly. And he's so smart and he's still kind and gorgeous gorgeous. I mean he's he's doing so without any further. I wanna welcome out gorgeous. Justin there bro. Huge just right here in the flash. Hey question go. i'm so was. Charlie's angels like the role that changed your life no role that the not first. I was really changed my life. It did like three minutes. I couldn't believe you didn't like that. But your body was everything johnny First job i was roman michele's high school reunion. Had a little cigarette. Me i i was the cowboy. Yeah garage but it was like a great job because my grandma just the. I literally convince my grandma. That movie was like not controversial. When i was five to hurt elected rent and i had to watch it so low. Because every time she was like. Hey toby fuck off. My grandma was like right there. And i had to be like definitely. Pg and don't worry. i used to. That was the first one. I was the first big thing we're like. They flew me somewhere. Someone gave me a piece of advice once where they said they said. Don't ever go to los angeles unless someone's flying you there because there's nothing more depressing than getting off a plane with no job in los angeles to true of me honey. Well i took the advice and so that was the first time i got a job where they were like. Yeah we're gonna put you up in a hotel. we're gonna fly you for his class. I couldn't believe it. The first time i've gotten per diem knows what the hell is this money to show room serving. Yeah and i go to the airport. And i had a first class ticket and i was like. Can i change this ticket until like six economy ticket. So i can do this again. And they're like no. Can i just get the cash and go to business class. Essentially like i'm at my stage in my career where you were when you book romi michele's high school reunion correct and i was out there forever. I remember like because gene garoppolo was like the big star of that movie major. The truth dogs. I cannot totally and she had a really busy schedule so they kept me in two lines in the movie. You know but they were kept me there for like a month so i was living at the sheraton universal like right on the universal city. Just like in heaven. God yeah and i needed. Bb king's every night with this free new yorker. Keta here like these. No i was kinda see i mean. I didn't understand it. I was like what the hell i didn't. I didn't understand how huge it was like. This is a really difficult place to get around. I don't have a driver's license guy whole thing. We're basically lived at the universal city walk. Yeah pop in there then like the vivid studio right there and then you had that like. That's a porn studio. That's right there. You guys it's funny. I don't know if you live in la you'll be like or maybe it wasn't that funny john and then you know we you so you kind of lived there and then you feel like a month because janine was like shooting like every wednesday in town during the thing and i was so that was kind of thing whereas like oh. This is a good gig. I'm question i know there's like hollywood movie magic but like so that ending iconic scene with that dance like you weren't there for that or you were. I mean the union. Then do the like lost. You can look around on the floor because you were like at three union or whatever. Yeah yeah i think they kind of always for all the stuff they kept you around like in case they wanna through into a shot or whatever and it was just fun ducking antagonised lady who ended up getting pregnant and got an was so happy. That helicopter embarrassed her. She was so rude and also in my memory. Because i haven't seen roaming michelle's high school reunion for a minute. 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Podcast: The Danger of Linking Mental Illness to Mass Shootings 2019-08-07

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Podcast: The Danger of Linking Mental Illness to Mass Shootings 2019-08-07

"The takeaway is supported by net suite by oracle the business management software and the world's number one cloud business system right now net suite is offering valuable insights with a free free guide seven key strategies to grow your profits at net sweet dot com slash takeaway. That's not sweet dot com slash takeaway and it's the takeaway for august seventh after a mass shooting. There's often a predictable turn to name mental illness as the problem. If you're talking about meltsa a homeless you're not talking about much more difficult topics like race and racism. There's very often misogyny involved in these narratives and also we're not talking about gun ma so it's been a very useful talking point. We're talking the overstated and politicized connection between mental illness and mass violence also on the show your reactions to the breath upgrade american author toni morrison i understood myself and my world more clearly because of her crying mind goodhart and beautiful writing i was gone forever to mars and and writing and comedian who yo- torres on why he embraces the odd i like being on the side of the odd rather than standing and mocking the odd when i hear a story about someone behaving strangely rarely do i find it funny to make make fun of that person all right. Let's get started after two horrific mass shootings over the weekend president trump blamed mental illness for the violence. We must reform our mental health laws to better identify in mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment but when necessary involuntary confined mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger not the gun. This was not the first time the president has made that link so far. He's blamed at least nine high profile mass shootings on mental illness. We have a lot of mental health problems in our country as do other countries the difficult issue of mental health and mental health. Is your problem here on monday. The american psychological association released a a statement responding to the president's remarks saying the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and that quote a history of violence is the single best predictor under of who will commit future violence and access to more guns and deadlier guns means more lives lost additional research from the university of texas. Medical branch shows that mental health is not a major factor in someone's propensity for gun violence but the university of texas found that the more access someone had two guns the more likely they were to commit acts of violence with them politicians especially those from the g._o._p. Continued to link mass shootings two mental illness especially especially when the perpetrator is white british. I think we've got to do a better job. Hope seemed like one common. Denominator is mental illness. Mental health listen addiction issue. We don't know right now exactly why this deranged individual did this people with mental illness are getting guns and conducting these mass shootings to start this hour. We're going to get the facts versus fiction mental illness and violence in america at a moment when those words until illness are being thrust to the forefront of grieving nations national national conversation joining me now is jonathan muscle director of vanderbilt to build university center for medicine health and society jonathan welcome to the show thanks so much and on the line is dominic sixty director of the scatter good program for applied ethics ethics in behavioral health care at the university of pennsylvania dominic. Welcome thank you so jonathan. Let's start with you. Is there any correlation between violence and mental illness. We'll let me first say that. I can completely understand why people turn to a mental illness narrative after mass shooting. It's such a traumatic moment on an emotional level. I think this this narrative makes sense but on a political and policy level. It is a complete distraction. Unfortunately data study after study shows that person's diagnosed host with serious major mental illness are in fact much more likely to be the victims of violence not the perpetrators of violence and if you just go down the list depression depression anxiety schizophrenia all the major psychiatric diagnoses. These are all mental illnesses that end up taking people away from society so they're less likely likely to plan an attack. Commit an attack factors like that well. There's also the question jonathan about the underlying issues for many of the shooter's not all but many of the ones that that we're learning about seems to be radicalization hatred of women of people of color. I'm wondering why so many politicians are completing those issues with mental illness. It's an easy talking point and it's a distraction. If you're talking about mental illness you're not talking about much more difficult topics like race and racism. There's very often misogyny involved in these in these narratives and also we're not talking about gun laws and so it's been very useful talking points to not get us to talk about about what we should be talking about. Which is how can we come together across divides gun owners and people who are responsible gun owners people on all sides of this divide people who feel we'll strongly about gun control. How can we come together and create reasonable policy in the middle but when we're talking about these large lofty charged narratives it makes it harder for us to enact act reasonable common sense solutions to the violence that we're all experiencing dominic. I'd like to bring you in here because in the president's statement he said that people with mental illness should be quote involuntarily confined in certain circumstances as a way to prevent mass shootings. What are the ethics of that proposal dominic the ethics fix really turn on the purell evidence that such action would not prevent mass shootings really at all and so it would be largely really unethical and i think impractical to be able to identify individuals who are at risk for such violence and attempt to involuntarily confine them and it's like yadda intercostal there is no evidence that it would work and to it'd be impossible to predict who those individuals should be that should be confined and i guess the other question is where would these people be confined. I think we think about <hes> mental health institutions that it back in the fifties and sixties that existed in this country but is there even an infrastructure restructure at this point to to even carry out something like that there are psychiatric hospitals and there are state laws that would mandate individual who is a risk to themselves or others to be placed involuntarily in a psychiatric ward the capacity for forensic use. Is there the capacity for for civil use to get people to care. They need the treatment. They need in a psychiatric. Hospital is largely not there. The number of beds in this country has evaporated significantly since the nineteen one thousand nine hundred seventy s and we now have a dearth of psychiatric beds in in this country for people who are seriously mentally ill and who need structured inpatient care. You're it's not important to prevent mass shootings. Let me just say that upfront. The idea of increasing our bed capacity and that's that's sort of the metric that we use to to describe how much impatient cares available in this country for psychiatric problems is important because there are individuals with very serious mental mental illnesses who were not receiving the treatment they need in the community and to that point jonathan congress and president trump has talked a lot about reforming mental health l. flaws to address current and future violence but what have they actually done towards that end. I mean have they done anything to promote mental health awareness or treatment as a psychiatrist. I'm all for more mental health treatment. I'm all for investing more in the hall system. That's a different issue than preventing mass shootings entirely but it is important to note <unk> out that i can list many instances from president trump overturning president obama's executive orders about eliminating firearms to people with very severe severe mental illness not that those people shooting. They're just quite a debilitated but president trump overturned that a a couple of years ago everything to things that aren't really getting talked about right now like like attacking the affordable care act will the affordable care act had a lot of language about mental illness parody and so in a way the actions that have been done by the trump administration are really undermining mental mental mistreatment other is one of the important point to keep in mind which is president trump also mentioned so called red flag laws. Those are laws that try to kind of find kind of narrow space between these large issues red flag laws allow for a temporary removal of a firearm arm from someone who may be an imminent threat to themselves or someone else just for a period of between seven and twenty one days and that kind of uses the mental illness language. It doesn't use the diagnosis right. I think that's the important point so there is a narrowed point of hope here and we'll have to see what happens with that with that particular issue in dominic. I wanna bring your get your thoughts on red flag laws because the president and other members of the g._o._p. Have been touting these red flag laws. You know since the shooting but it almost feels that this is putting the onus on family members to make diagnosis about something dominic. I'm curious about your thoughts on the ethics of doing that so oh. I think that the red flag laws are a common sense idea. I think it is a good idea to allow people who are most intimately aware of the individuals individuals and values and motives to have a voice to be able to say you know. My son is acting strangely. He's he might be dangerous. He has access assist to firearms. It does get dicey does get difficult for family members to have that burden on them to be able to say with confidence. You know my son is having trouble will is potentially violent. Let's get the guns away. Oftentimes family members themselves are gun collectors. There's guns in the home. There's a multi-faceted problem here. In the the fact that there are guns everywhere and so while the red flag laws might take a marginal chunk of the risk away the nation is just flooded with guns on so it will be really difficult to keep these really awful weapons out of the hands of people who want to use them. We spoke to devlin barrett. Who's from the washington. Post was covering these issues about the political side of red flag laws and i want to play a clip about what he had to say so when you talk about red flag laws. It's another another way for republicans to say. We're not gonna look at guns. We are going to look at mental health and we're going to push those decisions down to the states because the reality is in a lot of states. It's a it would be fairly difficult to pass red flag laws and you're basically pushing that responsibility down as opposed to up to washington down your thoughts. There's a reason why these <hes> these are state level laws. These aren't federal laws and i think it's important to note that the data that we have so far red flag was really have only only been in effect <hes> in there in seventeen states and dc since twenty thirteen is when they started the best out of that we have is that there possibly effective in preventing suicide aside the their effectiveness in preventing mass shooting is really anecdotal at this point. I personally only know of a few studies that show about interventions that stop mass shootings and those aren't about red flag laws. They're actually about state level gun policies so if you live in a state that has tight gun laws and the states around you have tight gun laws your state will probably have fewer mass shooting so we're really gets back to red flag. Laws are important in conjunction with laws that do everything everything else dominic. I'm curious about we hear about this often that <hes> the perpetrator. If the perpetrator of mass shooting is white <hes> the initial responses this is that this was about mental illness <hes> if not we we often don't hear about the mental illness explanation <hes> if there's a the shooter is of color and i'm wondering drink can do you have any sense of what role the perpetrators race plays in this <hes> use of the term mental illness. We hear about mental illness when it is is a a single white male usually loaner. Some syracuse has been victimized over their life as a as a kid perhaps and now they've latte. They're lashing out out and we don't hear this about individuals who are of other races and colors are typically branded as terrorist for example. We didn't think of the nine eleven hijackers. Here's as mentally ill we we saw them for what they were evil and so when we bring out the trope of mental illness only for for caucasian white man what we're doing is excavating them of their evil act in a sense. We're saying look they were sick. They didn't know what they were doing. They were unable to make this moral judgment correctly and we don't hear that with minority jonathan. I want to also mention that we talked a little what about <hes> the perpetrator's motives being sometimes driven by misogyny by racism <hes> but this idea that it's about mental illness also sort of ignores ores the societal elements that are influencing these men largely men to commit these mass shootings. I mean what are we missing there. It's not just about video jio games. I mean there are other countries in the world that have violent video games that have mental illness and we're not seeing the type of violence every day that we are seeing being in this country. There's no evidence that watching a video game i mean think about how many people play video games in this country versus the number of people who commit mass shootings at its infinitesimal the mall. There's no evidence that playing video games causes mass shootings. I do think that there of course are issues about the rise again of white nationalism and white supremacy. What do mass shootings reflect about the bigger culture of white supremacy in this country and how can we have a conversation about the ideology. Jonathan metal is the director of vanderbilt university center for medicine health and society. Thanks jonathan for being with us. Thanks so much and dominic. Sixty is the director of the scattered program for applied ethics six and behavioral health care at the university of pennsylvania dominic. Thanks so much. Thank you <music> author. Toni morrison died on monday night. She was eight years old. Morrison morrison published her first novel the blue sky in one thousand nine hundred seventy. She went on to win the pulitzer for her novel beloved and became the first african american woman to win the nobel prize in literature. Toni morrison was perhaps most gifted writer in american history. That's wesley lowery of the washington post one of the guests from our last segment and and he said morrison's work was so important because it unapologetically centered on black stories very often black writers journalists black novelist are told they have to write quote unquote universal stories as if the story of a black american won't appeal to the rest of us and the beauty eh of toni morrison's work was that she always refused to do that. Morrison herself address this many times throughout her career including in this nineteen ninety ninety eight interview on australian television. You don't think he will ever change and write books. That incorporate wide wide lives into them substantially. I have done vena substantially. You can't understand how powerfully raise the question as you could never never ask them when they <music> on tuesday. We asked you to tell us how toni morrison's works have influenced your life and many of you found yourselves within the pages of her books. My name's alan hobson. I'm calling the city reading morrison's works. It wasn't working breath of fresh air because he kind of looked like me in the pages collected in the stories you know for preaching like myself looking for which stories and reputation fiction back in high school. Those books had a tremendous impact. I'm super grateful for my name is reverend up the the lorraine acey. I i read the bluest eye shortly after it was released and i fell in love with a writing i was able to relate to be cola in that book having suffered with i guess a sense of racial prejudice within within my own family having been the doctor child and as i read that story something gripped me and i was drawn forever to tony morrison and writing i turned off to bed full of guilt and and self-pity once i have generated a silhouette warmth dan who've for there is a cold place one half in any direction. No one speaks to me or asks how i._t. Since pros is poetic has the tendency to stick with you long after you put down the book who <music> hi. This is susan from salem oregon. She was a great writer. I am still thinking about beloved twenty years. Here's after reading it for the first time we are all blessed by having had her here. This is nancy hi from fort worth texas. I understood myself else and my world more clearly because of her fine mind goodhart and beautiful writing victoria valentine from burbank california yeah. I'm really saddened about the loss of tony morrison is there are no words appropriate to describe the impact of her words upon my soul last paragraph graf of song of solomon have him my knees literally literally on my knees sobbing this line in particular. You want my life milkman. Nope man was not shouting now. You need it here without wiping away the tears taking a deep breath or even bending his knees he leapt as fleet and bright as a lodestar he wheeled taught guitar and it did not matter which one of them would give up his ghost and the killing arms of his brother for now he knew what shalimar new. If if you've surrendered to the air you could bride talisma toni morrison's writing his meant to you were still collecting your stories on twitter at the takeaway doris which handle the takeaway on them see nevada. That's comedian julio torres and he's been a writer at saturday night live since twenty sixteen and even though he mainly operates behind climb the scenes he's managed to stand out with sketches that highlight his uniquely absurd point of view introducing wells for sensitive boys from fisher price wells for sensitive voice to wish upon confide in and reflect by some boys live unexamined lives but this one heart was cloud unless i forgot about it for years but then i remembered half the tar giant international blockbuster used the papyrus fontana. It's this summer. Julio has been spending more time in front of the camera in june. His spanish language har- comedy losses spooky premiered on h._b._o. And and this saturday he's out with the stand up. Special called my favorite shapes. The hour-long set finds julio performing on a futuristic looking stage standing behind a conveyor belt that carries ariz long a range of shapes and objects from simple square to a potted cactus. I have begun to fear that this new cactus knows that seconds before it arrived into my apartment i with my bare hands excavated the corpse of his predecessor witout. Why the vessel clean and said oh look a new home for you and by the way i can speak freely in front of this cactus because he doesn't speak any english. The concept might seem off beat but julio says the idea of performing shape based comedy made perfect sense to him. I've always been very compelled by the humor in objects and feel like i work best when operating through metaphor when we spoke this week i asked julio how he uses his very specific sensibilities instabilities to set himself apart in the crowded comedy scene of twenty nineteen. Leave up to the listener whether or not stand out from that field but i don't know i i do things in the only way that i know how to i like being on the side of the the odd rather than standing and mocking the odd that that makes sense when i hear a story about someone behaving strangely rarely do i find it funny to make fun of that person in mutually on behalf of that on the side of that person so that that's sort of how operate <hes> almost talking about empathy there yeah yeah sure yes and empathy. It's it's a good exercise even with people that we hate. It's a good exercise. I think to try and map out how they got there anybody in particular well. I always end up like trying to untangle the tangled cords. That is the mind of donald trump and just sort of trying to like. How did this man get here like what while it was a childhood like. Have you gotten any answers. No what do i know but i've read that he he would throw rocks at kids when he was a kid which makes a lot of sense and i mean it's sort of like a bully psyche right. It's a deeply deeply insecure so we are all victims of insecurity. We're going to dig into that aloha aw turn. There's so many layers to that right but at the first layer i wanna take here is saturday night live yeah. Donald trump hosted saturday night live. He did it before you started started working there. You did <hes> you've written a couple of sketches that gives some insight into melania trump and trump. So how do you take what we just talked about my that to writing a sketch about donald trump. I have indirectly dealt with the political climate a lot but head on one. There's a couple that i spearheaded the first one was sorta extracted from my stand up a series of videos very very short videos golden melania moments. These videos imagined melania a sort of a <hes>. It was very much like a princess trapped in a castle. That point of view has since expired or like very quickly expired as we started learning more and more about her. We still don't no no a bunch but it's safe to say that she's not trapped and then another one that i was involved in it was called through donald's is or through trump size and it was a point of view sketch were you could just sort of be inside his head and see him waking up and see him like go throughout his day in this sort of like horrifying little journey and feel his what scared him like what takes him off that i also thought was a a fun exercise. You've been writing for us anelle for almost three years now. I've watched the show for so many years. It's embarrassing sing and so i'm a fan but it's also did a show. That's been roundly criticized for his lack of diversity in terms of its cast and even in terms of the writer's hitters room so you're one of a handful of writers of color. I imagine in the writer's room. How do you balance that with the political climate today today with things like president trump with the controversy around our immigration policies. What's happening at the border like do you feel compelled to have have to write about those things or are you just writing off of whatever is interesting that week. Sometimes i not not that anyone you know hired me for any specific reason or that. It's there's no never has it been expected for me to a certain things just because i am a certain kind of person so so in other words. You're not gonna want that. One thing i hate is being the cultural representative so you have to write the latinos. No no no no never never once. Have i been expected to write the latino story story or the queer story or anything like that and i mean first of all there are more queer people of color behind the scenes that i think you'd you'd imagine they'll bill deeply talented and i think that we all right the things that are we are attracted to that makes us laugh and i've been lucky to earnestly be able to explore so what i want to explore every week but sometimes i do personally think oh dear god i sh- i should be the the one that addresses x y and nc right but i guess i'm just not skilled in that way. I'm not like all sort of homework writer kind of way so sometimes it works in some sometimes it doesn't and i think a big part of being a comedian or performer writer and artist in this climate is reconciling or just just is really facing the question. Do i have a responsibility to directly address. This and i believe the answer is yes <music>. I have yet to answer to what extent or what form that's fair. Yeah you can't force it right now like which is why remaining vocal and politically active beyond the jokes that you talent stages is important in terms of that shifting gears for a minute. You're also bilingual which is fantastic. You're born and we grew up in el. Salvador lived there until about a decade ago. Tell me about that transition wendy you decide because a lot a lot of latinos in the united states. We use this spangler thing where we kind of go in and out of spanish and do you approach to your comedy differently. If it's four for in in spanish versus in english did spooky is almost entirely in spanish but you know there are a couple of moments in your stand up where you inflict that language as well so how do do you. How do you decide when to do that. Most of my career has been in english. I came to the to the states wanting to be a a writer one great for television television and film so for most of the work that i've done i did in english without thinking twice about it which artistically glee gave me this sort of layer of removal from the the performance because i am creating a second language and it gives me this sort sort of like feeling like watching everything from the outside that i i have sort of come to like and they will as a spooky. He's i was very excited to do it for a lottery since but one of the reasons was getting to do comedy in my native language and then disorder like ping pong and be like okay so i'm from here but i've been thinking and operating over here what happens when i take what i learned in be be and i bring it back to a so it. Was this a triangulation of culture and artistic experience. That was very interesting because not everything is translatable. Not everything is translatable now and that is something that we were that anna and i who who wrote loses bookies thinking about a lot when we're writing. I think that we're both both prone to wordplay and then we'd be typing and aboard because of this show is going to truly be bilingual. You can't have have jokes that are just for some people and as of panamanian descent. I am us. Native fred's cultural background is informed by venezuela. Our director is mexican two of our leads mexican and was shot in she lay with chilean actors so then it became this sort of like spanish tower babble which motivated us to set the world of the story in an imagined country rather than having chileans put on their best mexican accent which is an idea that we entertained for a little bit. We decided that it was going to be in this imagined nation. Which was an artistic justic decision that i think we're very happy with but yeah like even within spanish like sometimes i'll i'll hear people say that that is sound foreign me <music> an salvadorian who who lived there up until ten years ago you find people like serve policing each other's accents and be like well. That's not how you say that and said well. That's john how you say that in the country that you're from but that is how you say that in the next country over there is no true. Neutral spanish obviously shifting gears for a minute. You tweeted this week about getting your green card. Yes finally in this climate in this environment. You were able to pull that off. How did that feel a little bittersweet sweet. I think that anyone who has who is not from here but lives here regardless of how you came here or how easy or hard it was for you. You think about immigration so you think about it every time you're in customs to come to the airport you think about it. When you're filing your taxes. <hes> it sort of this kafkaesque cloud hovering over you at all times so then getting the the green card was a sigh of relief thinking okay things are going to get a little easier now but at the same in time receiving a at a time of great turmoil just really makes you think of how easy you had it in comparison even though i don't think think of had it easy but just in comparison to the people who are really hurting right now so yeah. The gingko came with a bit of like an imposter syndrome. I'm attached to it if you like which i'm still like reckoning with you've been here ten years. The political climate has shifted quite a bit yeah <hes> particularly when it comes to immigration listen. Have you felt that shift around in your own life at that people are treating you. The same i i came to the states. Just as barack obama was being inaugurated and i've been here for the whole obama administration and now the big shift but ever since i landed in new york city and have lived here and like grown here as a as a person as a comedian i felt nothing but welcomed and encouraged and supported so really the political climate to me is sort of a new psycho thing. I am lucky enough to be in this. I'm not i'm gonna call it a bubble. Because why are we the bubble the bubble by in this corner over here. It's always fell difficult but welcoming. Surreally i've seen it shift obviously like we all have in the news but as as for how i go about navigating life it's felt the same and i think it's also also worth mentioning that coming to the states was never easy. It was nerve wracking when obama was president and i think that that's that's something that we also have to come to terms a little bit and just don't go too far into this fantasy that there were no dip rotations when obama was president and he was called the reporter quarter and chief he was called the chief of course the shift now is that it went from what i perceive as a colt thing that the government had to do to <music> a deliberately cruel thing that in many cases it doesn't actually have to do which is what's happening right now. Julia torres is stand up special. Oh my favorite shapes premieres this saturday on h._b._o. Thank you thank you and that's our show for today and we want to give a special shout out and thanks to lee hill stepped up to help the show in the past month. He's been a fantastic year. A great leader and we're much obliged for his presence. He's heading back to his usual role in public engagement at w._n._y._c. so we're happy to say. We'll still see him around. Thanks so much for listening. I'm tansy xena vega and this is the takeaway. We'll see you tomorrow.

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714. Ziwe, Ryan Rosenberg, Jessica McKenna

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714. Ziwe, Ryan Rosenberg, Jessica McKenna

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And of course i know the difference between that and junior varsity and didn't have to ask before the show and we also have a small business owner. Well a small business owners here look twenty. Twenty one is the year of the small business owner. We have stopped having entrepreneurs on the show and instead we have small business owners. So that'll be really incredible and we have a small business owner in her own right coming up here on the show. I'm sure she's incorporated. I'm sure she has a low now company and so and she is in the business of show but her business is not small because she has her own television show of which every episode can be seen on the showtime app. Right now you can just fly through them six episodes you can get through that in approximately three hours less than a godfather in certainly less than a godfather part two. And this is your first time on the show and i'm really excited to have her because i'm a big fan of the show. Please welcome to the show for the first time anyway. Hi thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be in this hollowed ground. Truly is we have to have a ceremony to bless the ground before every episode. So and thank you for taking part in it. yes way. His miming the blessing ceremony. I probably appreciated everything you did. You actually led the ceremony. Which is we've never known how to do it properly. Before honestly black women are always doing the work. This podcast is no different. Thank you yes you are. I appreciate that and we really need to credit you for that. I should credit you for all previous episodes as well should i not yes please consulting the will be in the mail. Okay wait for you to me. Thank you for letting me have the opportunity to pay me for this consulting presented. This z way. It's so good to see you. You were just coming off of the experience of having made your show. It's been on for the past few weeks. tell us about it. It's always good to have a tv show. I experienced that for a good five years of my life. And i was like what was i doing the other twenty three years. Not having your show. It's the it's the best isn't it yes. Having a tv show is the best. I've never been happier. I've never been stronger. I've never been more hydrated. I'm at my peak. And it's only downhill from today. Did you have a designated water person giving you your hydration hydration station. No this is a season one show. Oh my water person. It was really now for the who don't know exactly what the show is. And maybe are not even familiar with your comedy. Let's let's go backwards from the show. A little bit to sort of the impetus for it. Which is your show baited. Which started on youtube and then went to instagram. is that right. yeah. I mean there's been several iterations but i. It was a youtube series where i would interview my co workers and then the pandemic happened in. Everyone was going live. And i didn't want to be left out of the cacophony. So i started going live on an interviewing comedians. And then i started interviewing kirwan. Calloway's on allison romans and rose mcgowan. And then the show took off. And i showed a show and now i interview people on my show tummy twenty-four show. You have really figured out the art of turning your life story into one sentence. I really appreciate that. You know ultimately i don't know if have this experience but when you do so much press it's just like okay. How many words can i not say. I don't get no. I'm the opposite. I'm like i say as many. And i just wanna hold them captive while i just drone on and on and on and that's a lot like the experience of doing this show you'll find out i drone on and on and you won't get a word in edgewise there. I experience of doing any podcast. So i'm excited but what was what was baited like did it. Did it end up being what it started out being you. Because you say you were just interviewing comedians and then you started interviewing kind of celebrities but was was the tenor of the show. The same both in both iterations. I think it really scaled. I mean it's so much different to ask like your co workers that you're working with in tandem on what they think about race knowing like they are the ones who always leave the seat dirty and so they have their respect for you versus like a strategy working with animals leaving this with their their chairs or the toilet seats. Both all stephen. Just shit everywhere and your workplace i worked with literal pigs versus like a firebrand. Who has anything they say. Become sort of this quotable moment. That goes viral there. so what. What does that word. By the way. Firebrand i see i see it. Used almost exclusively about racist people like league in the media. Like they'll say like this politician was a firebrand and it's like you know. I think it's a nice way of kung's and when problematic so firebrand just means someone who's able to get headlines with the words that they say but the headlines positive but that's i mean it's exciting experience because i don't know what anybody respective guests are going to say and so asking. How many friends do you have is just like always going to be a good time. It's always a good one i now. I think it's not right to count your black friends. Now you're black enemies. I have that list. And how many black enemies. On thirty six that i know of that are that are from me to them. I don't know how many for me from them to me as it reciprocated. That's a good question. How many enemies do i have. I would say zero just lots of benefactors. And that's always where i like to stand so you would. You would ask sort of leading questions to try to lure people into saying problematic. Things on your show is that essentially a good encapsulation of it exactly. I mean my show is a deconstruction of like celebrity culture. We're like normally on like talk shows. Celebrities go on and they they say the same anecdote about you know flying into cleveland airport on our show bevin anecdote about that by the way because this sounds funny to into cleveland airport. I don't remember anything other than it was for. I did a podcast. Save america and we did a show and it was ten thousand people that those it was wild. That's my anecdote about cleveland. Airport to seem to be more about bragging about the numbers of the show then about the. Hey i'll take. I'll take it belongs so you're trying to. You're trying to break through that and get people to be a little more real in an interview is that i mean. My show is fundamentally vulnerable and honest. Because i don't want my guests are going to say. They don't know what i'm going to ask. We prep them as far as hey. We're going to. It's going to go zany character. Who's going to ask them off questions about race. And that's really what they get other than seeing interviews so like a borat type of the borat type yes in that. I'm a black woman. A wife a miwa. Everything is nice very nice. I have an accent yes. I'm exactly like bora. I'm a gen z. Borat and i think you know. Gloria steinem and friendly boards would agree but yeah i just interviewed people with a little bit of a character and get really silly. Funny answers have hijinks ensue. So you would do this on your instagram show. And you would you would get people sort of in a little bit of hot water or or conversely it would be interesting to see people just break through that you know the the veneer of a fake interview and just be a little more real about themselves but then in translating into the showtime show. What were what were some of the differences in the show. What were you still able to achieve on. I think the greater difference biggest differences was that i wasn't producing it in my bedroom during a global pandemic. You could have done that. Yeah so that was nice. i didn't have. I had a ring. Light and i was doing my hair and makeup and also researches questions so now i have like a full fledged team that harass respective talent. I have writer. People put up the ring light. Yeah yes exactly. It's union so it's like you have to you got to get the g- after you've got so it's scaled bigger. I'm the musical guests every episode. That's right you. Do you do music videos every episode with funny songs and was that i mean when you when you're offered your own show it can be anything and you know the shows name z. Way so it's like it's just anything you do was an exciting for you to sort of be like. Oh wow. i could do the songs that i used to do. When i was performing. You know it's like no one's telling you like you only have to do a talk show thing it can be anything it ends up being a lot of sketched up. It was really yeah. It was really really exciting in that. No one could say no. It's like well if you want to hear me saying to fucking bad doing jazz seeing on this episode. i'd love to hear your voice a little bit. I know okay is so now. It seems to me like you were interviewing it. Sort of was between interviewing friends. Who were playing along boeing and patty and then people who and this was the sense i got it like friend liebowitz. Who had no idea what was going on. And maybe that's acting editing. But it seemed to me like she was. Baffled is that initiated honestly says what happened was we reached out to her and she was interested in doing the show but wanted to see it first. But she famously doesn't have internet so mighty talent producer. Had to go to her house and go to her lobby and show her my old video and that's what she said. I will absolutely do games whatsoever. Don't even try it. And she also was like so she was going to get dinner with. Martin scorsese after a claim directly. So she's only doing forty need to clarify. Who martin scorsese zoo. There other ones well. That's true that's your i. I'm a huge fan. Taxi driver banger. But she was like. I only want to interview for forty five minutes. Get me out of here. And then we ended up talking for two hours. Had to cut it down to twelve minutes and it was such a pleasure. We had like a great report but it was it was. She really did not know what she was getting into a. Yeah and you have. You're talking to politicians as well and and you're essentially like politicians are so used to dodging the questions and saying what they want to say. But it's interesting to have you tried to constantly steer back to your original question was and have them realize that they're doing it and won't get away with it with you. Yeah i love interviewing politicians because even when they're evading the answers to questions that is so honest in how they are clearly trying to not answer. So i find it to be so comical. I it's honestly really really funny. So is it fun having a show i mean. Are you going to do more. I mean you know. It's like one of these things where they finished the first season of my show and they were like. Do you want to do more. And i said you know what. What the hell is it like that with you. Your show had over one hundred episodes to your show is one hundred ten ten episodes. Yeah i wouldn't say it's huge. Thank you for saying it was used. It was one hundred ten episodes that no one watched one hundred hundred ten viewers. I watched your show. Your show actually was one of the models for my show. Because i like the way that you guys use celebrity talent who they weren't afraid to laugh of themselves. I thought that was really excellent. Thank you so much. am. I assume you're asking me. Do i like having a show on the record. Yes i do i love. You're on the record. Good okay so. This is going to make headlines. Have they talked to you about doing more. Can we make some news here. Is it any skips. What ty we'll tell. We will show you better not release this deadline. Hollywood tomorrow you. Whoever gets the scoop gets the scoop. I'm not the boss. I would be furious but yeah it's been tired of deadline constantly reporting on stuff that should be reported on this show. You know there's always. Hey scoop i can give you a scoop. This is my real hair color. That's a scoop scoop. Oh okay yeah. There's been a lot of controversy online. Is that real eric. You also by the way. I don't want to because we're not recording the video of this. I don't want to tell people exactly what you're dressed like without your consent. May i may. I mention what your dress like. What if i said no you. Can you accept it. That's being a good host you are. You are wearing a product sweatshirt. Am i right in. Low me up for the class work on guess wearing a sweatshirt. Thank you to to prada they are. They've been really really cool. Awesome and base sponsor of the show. And give you close for the show. Because i i love the aesthetic on the show. It's sort of like a y2k. Pink sorta like pink. Roman kind of kind of vibe with a yeah. I'm going for like legally blonde share. Horowitz means like thought. And so. I really by costume designer. Pam shepherd killed it on. We've gotten some really good pieces like from product. So i'm really thankful i love being on a fashion icon and i hope that one day i go to the mic. Allah whereby campaign starts actually kubler. Okay go to try to go to. I bet you could go to the met gala. I've never understood how anyone ever gets invited to those. But i would think out of anyone you would. Thanks thanks well. The show is really great. We can run down the guest you've had on you. Had phoebe bridge irs from the between two ferns movie. One of my close close friends though. I haven't spoken to since the after party we have. Who else is on fairly gloria. Steinem julia nicastro pattie harrison bowen gag. Julio torres low wral how are you today see abrahams adam. Pally wellesz look. That's enough as far as i'm concerned if you don't want to watch a show that has all of those people on it. You're mentally insane. Yes now like the regular say you're mentally and saying we say we say you're wild it the same as problematic now. We say you're wild like you look. I don't think insane is problematic because people can be insane and it's it's fine that they're insane. It's an no judgment if you're insane. You're just insane. I'm saying that you're insane if you don't watch this show that's not problematic is it. You didn't did you did you. Baby into saying same. I think you've made yourself yeah. I have been baiting myself. Ever since i was thirteen. Well it's a really great show. I i want people to watch. It's very funny. My wife and i don't mean to brag that i have a wife but i sit there with her and we laugh and laugh and we learn a little something and we turn off the tv and we look at each other and say that was a good use of our time. That's great. I love that away. All you guys also always going vacations casey. I'm like oh. Yeah i love casey. I'm due in two days to but y'all that's a cool group. I want to be part of that group. You seem like oh man. Come through. Come through i will be wearing. This sweatshirt goes look like a lot of fun. Do you have a significant other. No time for this party okay. Yeah let's plan on a. Let's say september trip okay. Great and that'll give you enough time to get a significant other right because we don't want you to be the the the eight third ninth or the ninth wheel. I guess when everyone's paired up. Okay so who are you. Who are you out to right now in terms of that of availabilities for my boyfriend tb. I've been in la for two weeks. And i've gotten a lot of propositions so we'll see. Yeah from like random on the street or from like real hollywood celebrity. Both it's always a mixed when you're a black. These shirker really runs. The gamut depends all right. We'll hook up pair up and we'll go out there. Where do you wanna go in september. You know. I would like to go to the pacific northwest. People say that a lot. And i just want to join that cacophony because it seems like twilight was shot their top chef. This was shot their top chef twilight. Two of my favorite program top chef twilight. That's my favorite movie. I would love to. I would look twilight. Came out and have the subtitle top chef and everyone was like the fuck. Is this movie. Wait so do. Is it in the top chef universe or they tried to say that robert pattinson is a chef in this one. What is going on. did you do anything. He's a very compelling man anyway z. Way is not only a great person but a great show is. It's sometimes hard when people are like. Hey i really like z. Way and they're talking about the show and not you. Is that tough to hear. No they usually no. It's great to hear. They usually say. I just love your show. That's that's great to anything any praises good. I hate when people say i hate you that that doesn't that doesn't it right. Yeah but it is really dicey calling your show your name. yes you know. ultimately. I didn't know what else to call it in my pursuit of being a nim as i- pivot to pop star in five years just thought it was easy. Branding good good well. It's a wonderful show and not you but the show is a wonderful show. And it's a wonderful person not the show but you are a wonderful person. And i hope everyone watches not only the show but watches you on the show and it's like z. Way within his way. It's like a nesting doll. Exactly and if i die in the show i die in real life. A lot of people don't know that if anyone on the show they are executed. Everyone applauds for them. That's a series wrap and then they are summarily executed as to have it reflects humanity in real in real tight. You said real time so many times. Now i feel like i'm saying real time is that is that possible. I think my were words are contagious. So what really are iconic like people are like. I don't want to be weird but it's iconic and that's exactly what i want you to your word i haven't said yet but i was going to dismount by saying you've been iconic we didn't show we did it and you've almost knocked over the lamp as well by throwing your arms up and celebration i appreciate hotels not on me see you. Can you stick around. We have my high school. Basketball coach is going to be here after the break that. That's a pretty exciting. Yes i can't wait to meet people from your story past wonderful and my future. I hope we will be right back. We have my high school basketball coach. We have a small business owner. 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And when you're ready to launch us the offer code bang bang to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain that squarespace dot com slash bang bang with code bang. Bang for ten percent off your first purchase comedy bang bang. We're back here z. Is here coming from an undisclosed location sipping in undisclosed liquid. That is in a glass. She can say what this is. But i don't want to blow up or spot any any further than i already have already mentioned that sweatshirt that she had on and i did not get a look at below the waist although i personally i don't look down there i. I stopped at the eyebrows when it comes to women. Well that's not drinking water and not wearing pants. Whoa okay we have to get to our next guest though. He is my high school basketball coach. I haven't seen him in so long as this is really exciting. Did you ever play any sort of sports in high school or professionally at all. Yes i did cross country. And i always came in last. Oh well that's i mean that's something that's like a perfect record in a way yes. It's i mean perfect. That's harder almost than than coming in like fifth or six occasionally exact glass fourteenth. Yes thank you. you're right. Yeah exactly all right. Well let's welcome to the show. This is the first time he's been on the show. Please welcome coach billips. How you doing scott. Hey it's great to see you. It's good to see you too. It's been a long time. Yeah it really has i. I mean i graduated. I think my ten th anniversary is coming up. So there's something like that around there know at twenty eight say in there. Let's not doc charade. Thank you coach bill so good to see the z. Way i don't know if you've seen her show. Oh yes hazy way how are you. You have seen her show or you'd say oh yes. I don't have showtime. i've seen the instagram version. Oh okay why. Don't you have showtime. is everything okay. Everything's fine show showtime to me is like it's the demarcation point of like if you're doing okay or not if you have showtime than you're doing okay. Well it's unfortunate. We started there then with me. I'm sorry. I don't have showtime things are fine. I guess i. I'm spending a lot of my time helping other people. Maybe i need to help myself. Moore's no i mean. But i would say. Treat yourself get showtime at least get like a one month free trial and watch all z. Y. show and then you know that's true then dip. I've done that before. I did that with credit cards to get the free towel at the baseball park. Then i forget to cancel the credit card. And now i got a bunch of you know towel line of credit a line of credit. Shore those those if you don't use them to buy anything then they're okay. Well i'm a big towel fanatic. So every time i go to the game. It's hard for me to resist starting a new credit card. So thirty or four to the thirty or forty of these credit card. Or these towels okay. So you're you're a towel phonetic. I guess i didn't realize swag anything. Free that i don't have to buy you know i'll get the hat i'll get the cousy. Get the towel whatever. Sure you'll get a protestant shirts you know if they were offering wish. I wish i had maybe as a hookup for you if you're if you're in the market for this. Oh that's great. yeah. I one time how to deal with old navy. But they dropped me. How does a high school basketball coach a deal with old navy for a while. They wouldn't let me buy their clothes but then they would let me by that and they said i couldn't buy them anymore. So what was the situation. They said it was bad advertising. They said they don't want people to look like me and old navy queens so you would approach an old navy. Well they would see me. Yes i was approaching. But i didn't try. They would stop me. How how far away from the old navy would you be two hundred three hundred yards. I would have just football fields that you usually now. I go in with a hat. So do they have your picture up at the door or something like that they did. I tore it down. Oh i gotta buy those shirts. So what was the process. You went in once bought their clothes. They said nothing yes back. They said nothing. But then i was in the paper i was. Were you in the paper. I don't remember. It was this after i graduated. I don't remember was after you graduate. Still coaching i got bumped down to. Jv you're no longer. Oh you got bumped. Yes well and then since then i got bumped out. Oh -pletely now. I'm just a life coach. Oh oh yes okay. So but anyways. I was wearing old navy at the game. Which i got in trouble with from the principal. Because you know where a suit is said. Even when you're a high school he said what he said. Okay drita suit. July crack a beer type shirt. Oh oh i see have you had a saying on it. It did it. Did it said the fourth is not just for the day. Drink four beers. That's what it said. An odd close suck. I think they're bad at their slogans. You ever you ever shop at old navy anyway. I certainly but i actually never seen him there. So that is oh yeah. Which one were you out. Well i was go into the one at the grove. Oh okay yeah and it's not there anymore. Yeah it's tough to see sort of the trail of what i leave behind closed down old navy's johnny rockets closed. Because of what happened with well. I couldn't make it to the bathroom. Can we move forward. This sounds like z. As co workers. Honestly it's wild that as a life coach you just leave things in our destruction. That's really sort of carter. Intuitive yes. I know. But i can fix everybody. Else's problems came here to help you coach. Oh you okay. Yeah please first. Half the show was pretty good. Obviously you think that's the first half. I don't know so we have twenty more minutes left. Scott i got my clipboard. And i got some notes. Okay those here. I've your your high school basketball coach. And you're talking about the first half i understand yes. Of course i get it. I get things of course people say i don't get things i don't know i don't know i used to say when we were coaching and playing you play and i was coaching back in the day. That's really there was one game where we were like. Let's do a switcheroo up. Yeah honestly the only game we won that you're you're a great coach and you know it was weird because we'd conked heads and suddenly our brains had switched. I thought i was you. I think you thought you were and then we realized later. No we just had concussions. We were we were but we won the game. We get off the court but the great thing was and the other team didn't show up and they forfeited then tastic for that to happen absolutely absolutely so anyway. I'd like to get back to the first half. Scott obviously you were hosting against z way. And i think you lost. I don't know. I think i look at it exactly like that. Maybe z. way do you. when you're a host do you view it as a competition. There are winners their losers. But i would never say clinton won or who lost. You're so magnanimous that's really wonderful. Obviously you one. I mean you got lost. Yeah why why would you say i lost. What can i do better well. You're conditioning clearly. My air conditioning and your physical conditioning. That'd be run. I ran out of speed halfway through. that interview. were gassed. Surely what he started talking about twilight with to cut that out. Who can we left it. Did we the other stuff out see. This is confusing z. Ways got the one up on you. I would love to bench you if i could. I look. I need a bunk heads and switch roles again. We can try. I look that was pure. Accident is one of those kind of things you only see in movies. I remember afterwards. We were like should we bomb cads again and you just can't recreate that kind of bunk. Yeah the second one. Just kinda hurt. Yeah no fun. No fun so yeah i mean you could bench me. Who would you put in my place. Well i don't mean ways right here. Yeah she's a great host tommy bag. Well you're adding to bangs. Wow who different. That's like shooting a three. That was awesome. That was a swish. Reggie take z. Takeover because apparently. I'm not doing good scott beg to me. You're starting you're saying you're the you're the hosting is yourself not as me okay. Okay i don't like to hear impressions as busy with hello. Welcome to comedy bang. You don't have to do it right from via the show. We're the middle. I'm saying just take over when you when you substituted a basketball player. They don't start they game over from the beginning typically but this feels pretty good. Okay all right. Do whatever you like my station. We've negotiated the deal terms. That is true. Okay yeah how much do you want. You look one billion dollars all right. You play hardball. But that's look okay. You got it one billion. This is going great this somehow. Scott this is what i always said about you in high school. You're a great passer. I truly was pass it. Yeah i will i. I loved having that ball though. I know it's just whatever. Pass it to me when i got it. I was like. I want this right right. Well you're good at giving it away. You're good at passing. And i just want to see more of that team move. You used to use to like have a huge boombox and you would turn on the red hot chili peppers. Give it away the minute. I got the ball and he would hype the crowd up so hard and i would be like they love me. They love me and it was just like no. They'd love the red hot chili peppers. Yeah i think we'd all get lost in the song. A little hole was on the opposite team. We would all just be like started doing the songo just briefly. Oh you sing it. You're such a better singer than what i want. You gotta give it to your mama. Whatever to get to get to you the whole place would go nuts for it nuts yet now to be fair. It was the karaoke track and he was you doing this on. That's right that's right and it did force you to pass the ball to your mother. Unfortunately but the crowd loved it and they did. That was my. Those are my favorite memories. That was senior night. That was really she last night. Everybody got to see you. All the seniors from the local senior center came in and they got half off the game. It was really incredible. And i'll tell you what those guys get rowdy. They do because they don't get a lot of chances to really let loose. Yeah i mean. There were wrapping grandma's there. Have you ever seen that in a movie. Way wrapping grandma wrapping grandma. Funniest thing. I love it when they start break dancing. And it's like whoa her back. But she spitting on constantly worried about her knees or hip replacement surgery. But it's so funny. It's it's good it's fresh. You dressed up as a wrapping grandma during one game i guess only one game that was we were like to make it two games. He's an after. I had lost every game for three years straight. I figured this year. I'm going to do a costume per game figure. Let's have something that the people are gonna come see on purpose because it's not for winning right. Yeah so yeah you like granny. You do. A halftime show every sale. Yeah yeah. I dressed up as whole cogan one time. Oh man brother that was. Yeah but the. I mean the you dress up like it's a little more jet black hair which everybody believed. I trimmed the middle of my hair so it was. You made a sex tape to accompany it really we here. Have you ever seen that. Sex tape is our. You kept emailing it to me. And i didn't want it well. You didn't say stop. If someone doesn't say stop. I keep sending the same unsubscribe unsubscribe. I thought it was a professional operation or something. No so in any case you got fired because of your team records demoted because of all the craziness and that i was losing so much and then they figured oh nobody will recognize that we're losing on. Jv nobody cares. sure yet. I got fired there. I was because of the record because of the record because of the costume thing. I kept the costume thing going on. Jv wasn't even people coming to the games at this really weird costumes. Get more and more problematic as they problematic just lazier a trash bag one time but not and i was like you know missy elliott thing but but it was just a trash is problematic to dress up like missy. Elliot's famous the videos. Famous fain doesn't equal to being able to. Maybe that's why. I don't know because i tried to do a full missy concert in the middle of the jv. I don't know they wouldn't explain it to me so now i moved on to explain why they fired. They said do we really need to. I guess. They said no indescribable indescribable. They said if you don't know we're not going to tell you which doesn't help the person who made the mistake really so then you then then old navy was like hey we don't want this kind of bad publicity for our quo's endorsement deal of being able to buy their clothes price even when they have sales even when they have sales they were like you can still buy them at full price. That's a deal. That is a deal a type of deal. It's a type of negotiation completed. I was going pretty low. You know and. I lost my endorsement deal. I lost two jobs. I lost all my costumes in a storage fire. Oh no yeah. That intentionally set or by arson arsonists. I think it really jealous fan or something like this fan. Who saw me in the costumes. Realize how cool it was. I better go burn down store. Okay i don't know just an insurance claim on that at all. Or i wish i wish i did. Yeah i wish i did. I had one and then they said no more. We're not we're not gonna stick to this. I was like well. What's the insurance. And they were like. Well we're not gonna stick to this. We're not gonna explain it. Can they do that. They can just go. Like i don't think so yes. There's something about me that. When i show up people can do whatever and there are no consequence. Yeah i mean maybe you are feeling that from coach billips here but i mean he's got he's just got a certain eras ability doesn't he. I mean i have so many questions please. I don't mean to monopolize the conversation. I mean right. He certainly he certainly past a certain something but my question reorder navias online shopping. What did we do it. Because it's like you don't have to go into the brick and mortar r. You blocked on the website. Yeah have they memorized. All of your forty credit card. So yeah i've tried it with all of them and they got me dead to rights. Let me get any close. They got my address. They called the post office. Why am i saying. In case something slips through do not deliver. Did this go all the way up to the top to joy. I think it went up to president. Who the president of president has. That's high yeah. Yeah but you know. I don't know. I don't know i think out to get me. But so you're a life coach way if you had other questions. I don't mean to get to his life coach before we exhaust. You insert everything. I needed to know your one question. You said you had so many and then you ask would another question well because you were dressing up as grandma so my question. Is this how you're seeing your the children. You don't have custody of like what. What is the purpose. Yeah well. I did lose custody of my kids and you know. Maybe i figured if. I'm a funny grandma they come back. If you see miss doubtfire maybe once or twice. I tried to do. This is davin memorized. It religiously i mean maybe the cartoon voices he does. Have you memorized. I wanna talk about right. He would do this backward plan. I can't shoot free throws and we say scott tissue free throw and then i quit begging and swish. Yeah fresh well so you. You dressed up as a grandma in order to get your kids back. Thought maybe they'd love me their grandma or just a random graham. That was the huge saw dressed. Up as sort of like a stereotypical graham. What is stereotypical about grandma gray hair. Cain blue blue okay. I didn't realize people don't mean that literally like a sonic the hedgehog costing i cut the head off the hair and i i got that off. Livestream zero viewers zero viewers the current day in front of set-aside. That's right yeah. It was exactly like that was like the movie. Proof of life russell. Crowe won't return my calls. Wait you called him. You found his number. Maybe it wasn't the right number okay. I'm not sure yes. I put on the blue hair. Of course were the biggest glasses. I could find his grandma. How big well again. I think big glasses. So that's what i got. But they were those blue and yellow all sort of sunglasses right. yeah the comically large sunglasses. That yeah i guess. I didn't look like they're grandma foul. You were trying to pass as their grandma. Yes but i was just random grandma. And now i'm told that didn't even look like grandma. I just looked like a weird thing. Like not even a human being uncle sonics hair. These sunglasses that blocked my whole face. You should have seen. My shoes would describe your shoes. Donald macdonald huge red shoes. I stole them off of one of the. You know the ronald mcdonald that sits on a bench. Yeah yeah those are ceramic. I thought porcelain the vida. Did you do that on a livestream. I wish i wish that would have been huge. Oh my gosh. This is an incredible story. Alright so if anybody needs help but their life yes. We're going to pivot to your life coach stuff. I just wanted to make sure. Are we out a question. let's get to the life. How can you help okay. Yeah well what are you looking for. That's so broad. What do you want. What is it you want to do in your life. I give the good advice. good advice. Okay what do you want to achieve. Obviously need a second world. Pete i was gonna say second season of your show but like saimaa season two and a world peace for all mankind. Why don't we start with world. Peace does that mean with everyone getting what they want you know because some of the conflicts between countries or so. They're they're so hard to resolve because you can't give them you know. How would they get peace geopolitical conflicts. Yeah maybe we should get away from that and just go back to do it. I guess the answer. Everybody be nice to each other. We send this message out to everyone at the same time. Oh i'll just do. It is that what's been beginning in the way the same time aspect of it. Yes some people hearing it on sunday. Some people are hearing it on mondays because not everybody agrees in calendar day. Oh in on when they worship you know. I mean sometimes. Saturday sometimes sundays. It's like come on so we send it out in like a mass. Bcc email or something. Well we gotta do see see. We want everyone on this. I want everyone to be able to respond to everybody. Okay yeah so. It's a big email chang. I think we sent a one email to the whole world and nobody will be annoyed by it. Okay and it'll just go. Oh that's right. I wasn't nice. Raise or to these people all right. Well that's i mean it's definitely. I don't think that anyone has tried this yet so mainly because it's a little simplistic but let's let's take down. Let's stop thinking globally and start thinking locally like what's the biggest problem just in your in your personal life. Well see has to find a boyfriend so we can vacation. yes yes. let's my love life. I'm sure this is the perfect thing for me to give advice to you about relationships. Familial bonds which i have none now i think what you gotta do is just put it out there. You have billboards right for your new show. Guess before before they tear them down get up there are they tearing him down. Wants to show off the air they usually like take. They don't tear down the entire book but they take down the extra. You get up there you throw in your own little piece of paint. That says like looking for relationships. Look into hookup. Whatever your vibe is maybe maybe your number my phone number. Yeah i could totally. That's something i could do. I don't think i have paint that large. But that's not to say. I couldn't go to michael's craft store. Are you a lot in that establishment or is that something. You can't frequent as well. Well they won't let me by large paint anymore by small small small cans cans puffy paints. It was the problem. Was i had a big spill on the way out there so much pain and i spilled each and every canc- see. I like to put the screwdriver in the lid and take a little bit of a sniff test. Oh i leave to make sure that every well. It's gotta be good still if it's expired. You don't want multi use. It has to go on the wall of morse shirt or whatever you're applying it to and it's gotta fuck you up smell. It's gotta fuck you up. That's really the the first one actually right. So you were huffing paint. So i lost my endorsement deal with them where i could buy things at times. The cost god terrible but yet gets paid. If you're not a band for michael's gets and big paint crawl up on the board or pay someone to do it you know i don't know yeah. I mean you have disposable income that you can pay someone to climb up on a billboard and paint it with big paint. You know now that. You're saying that. I am sure that i have enough saved for one poster with a one billboard to really make it cow but i think that's all i need says that which is ninety nine percent of the people don't want to date you but if there's one person who wants her and sees a sign and they will be your husband. I'm the beneficiary of that definitely. I got the one percent of the one percent who was actually could tolerate me. That's right. That's what i'm looking for because i found generally in society i'm completely unacceptable. Nobody wants to be around me. Nobody even wants to serve me when i'm paying the money for say a sandwich or whatever. I'm totally wanted right. It seems like you could use that to your advantage by not paying for things. Think well if you don't pay you don't get the thing they don't give it to you for free so they make the sandwich. Then they make a sandwich dander at you go. You know what i think. I'm gonna eat this one. I'm gonna go meet this one. I don't want you to have it. So what would you do with my life. I mean you look. You used to coach me. And i i was the beneficiary of some. You know those were some of the best years of my life playing underneath you. You know i. I would really like to see what you can do to my life. Well first of all. I'm and they start. You gotta get up earlier. I don't know what time you wake up early to be earlier than it is tell we can tell you're a night owl. I can. of course oh man you cousy me up there in front of the labelle every single out there bell smoking million screaming this be in bed by six six thirty pm actually for the next day. Twenty three hours a day. Oh i think you're depressed. Maybe the maybe what do you guys think. Hi yes okay. I think you are. Do you think. I seem fine. No me either. I also think good you can run some suicides in the morning you wake up at six now. These are the sprints basically. We're talking you're not going to a seven eleven and getting a drink for you could run a couple of suicide that way. It wouldn't hurt it. Would it would up your cool meter for sure right. I think you've lost some of the sort of high school at the soda fountain cry right so but you're saying like get up in the morning get up a even ten minutes earlier at least run suicides. Yes and then that'll would take care of everything in great shape. You'll be ready to take on the day. I didn't do coffee. i yes i. You gotta quit coffees. Regatta start macho macho. Drink a forty augusta every morning okay. Make your saying you rica macho your your skin is like it has a green tint to it. Thank you so much much. Do eat or drink macho much. Yes every day. I drink one. Gallon of mancha. Okay so you let me guess. This started right around the time. Your tv show happened exactly. That's why i'm successful. It's all that much. I'm hoping for i eat it. I eat out streets. So yeah my face and my skin and my mouth just green. Yeah you oscar. The grouch like no no not grumpiness way. Okay you're you're in a trash can so the studios trash step out of it you went. You went in there the minute you walked into the studio well. Some people call me a hermit crab. Because i don't technically have a place right now and i know so i was kind of wondering she's in this great hotel. Oh i don't know we're closed. We're hotel closed. Oh that makes sense. That makes sense. No problem no problem but yeah if i could just live in the trash can take. It's just one of these shitty plastic one. No offence your trash stop. Why are you denigrating. If i'm lucky you bell or the place. I'll tell you what let me help you. I don't think that you're a good life coach. I have to say okay. Well you were. You were in okay. Passable basketball coach. You were fun thank you. It was fun to play to play on your team. How you let us get away with everything. Wow god that's awesome. And i gotta say the way you guys made fun of me. I don't know maybe it was part of why you're a comedian. Now i look i. Some of that stuff was was a little harsh. I feel bad about it. Good for you life coach. Yeah we used to point at the basketball and say look. This is coach. Billips is body and point at your body and say look. This is a basketball like when we used to genuine confusion we used to paint your torso orange. Yeah i dunno basketball. It's one of the most orange balls. It is incredibly especially if you're playing with a rubber outdoor. Oh my god. I love bouncing that big orange ball. I can tell you scott. That was the one thing that everybody said about you. He's good sure but you can tell he loves bouncing that big orange. Paul just the enthusiasm so nice listened to to basketball experts. Talk about their crop. Really doc rivers or charles. Berkeley doesn't talk about the color of the ball. As far as i'm concerned i think a lot of audience members lost like you say a once at the top of the program. Look that's fine but you gotta keep resetting and keep reminding people of what color this ball is otherwise they watch the game of their like way. What is going on here is this. Is that a man coach. Billips i think that your look. I would find another line of work. I don't know that you're entirely successful our lives but we do have to take a break when we come back we have a small business owner and you could learn something i think from the small business owner. Because for me okay. We'll find out when we come back. We'll have more coach billips more way. We'll be right back with more comedy. Bang bang after this. This episode of comedy bang bang is brought to you by hot wire. Here's the premise. All right why would you in a million years book a cheap hotel when you can stay in an expensive hotel for cheap. We would cost the same but the hotel would be better. I think is what i'm trying to tell you. You might think that your budget only goes so far but with hot wire you can put a nicer hotel than you ever ever thought possible. Here's a here's how it works. Here's what you do. You just select your city okay. You select your neighborhood and your preferred amenities to start booking your better hotel. 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We have z way of the shows e way every episode available to stream now on hulu on amazon on the showtime app. Really anywhere you just put in in your old search function and fired up get the generators going and get on that internet and you'll find it. We also have coach billips. My high school basketball coach during the during the break retreated into your can. Yeah sorry about that. You'll like a turtle in. Its shell thought. I saw all right thought. I saw crops to understandable. Well we want to get our next guest on the show and she is a small business owner. She's been on the show once before we talked to her. I believe with. Kelly marie tran and and my wife speaking of borat and please welcome. Back to the show chrysanthemum. Trumpers all hi. Scott coach z way z. Way coach scott going to be here less. You're on the show you address this all every time you spoke and now you're doing it in forwards and then backwards. Well i you know. I think sort of a circle back. That's a favorite email trope of mine. Hey just a quick circle back. i'm just bringing it into real life. Okay i forgot. Shake your voices. Well you know it's a lot it's a lot you don't need to be frightened. Look i know is a big tv star. and i'm a former tv star. Whose segue back into podcasting but you but the circle bax do the circle the circle back. You're you are pod tv circle back or quebec and look. We have a high school basketball coach. Who circle back into being a failure. And i have a very good basketball really do. I'm sorry could you remind me really quick. What color is a basketball. Oh that's right. We started this segment on the show without bringing his orange. It's that beautiful orange all right sort of a burnt orange. That's probably my favorite burnt. It is truly it also. Has i believe it has black lines on it around. Oh yeah now. You're painting a vivid picture. I think so. They're like circular lines a middle line. I think there's a logo. there's a middle line. yeah did you forget. It was unclear for me for a moment if there was a middle laws in ten years since i graduated. I haven't picked up a ball. Welcome back to the show. This is z. z. Way this is chrysanthemum. Pleasure to measure. She's a small business owner. Who what do you sell again. Well i sell. I was selling fidget spinner. Scott nervous even saying you. Will you know it didn't work out for me. I slowly accrued over time. Several warehouses of fidget spinner. Several storage units wasn't buying in bulk. Any of those burn down. This is a rash of arsonists who are going out at. I wish got anything to offload these fidgets. But what i'm doing now is i'm buying up. Did you ever have a sticker or perhaps a bookmark or perhaps a ruler or perhaps a commemorative card that was holographic said so many example. Let me start this reason. I'm out okay. Good feedback sie lay. Let me circle back. Did you ever have a card. Or maybe a ruler or a bookmark or a sticker that at a holographic component to it. So i'm thinking it's a baseball player. And he's got the bat over his shoulders and then you tilt it just so and now he's swinging the bat or she's about to go off the dive and then you tilted jewish so and she goes off the diving board. You recall what i'm talking about here. The circle back a circling back. I absolutely and my challenges circling back had a holographic hokum on card. And okay fall when you move forward backwards. All this is what i'm talking about. This is exciting feedback for me. Thank you way. Scott coach coach. You used to put all these stickers on your on the back of your jacket anytime we would have a game so you know what. She's talking about absolutely. I had the crazy. Jackie okay so scott. I've been buying these up. I've been buying these up individually. Well i heard naturally not in bulk because that was a part of your problem with the fidget spinner business. You weren't manufacturing them. You would buy individually as collector. It was just collecting the ones that spoke to me and then i suddenly found myself with far too many fidget spinners and was trying to offload them as a small business. Whatever happened to them. By the way they're still there they're spitting. They're still spinning thank you. That's the ultimate circle back. Maybe i'll have to circle back to them. Okay so what. I'm doing now. Don't abandon this though. We want to hear about doing now is. I'm taking a video shouting. Did you realize damn it. One of my goals for twenty one. I know you before the show we said you know what chrysanthemum on. Not going to shout. Shout shout okay. Here we go all right here. Okay so what. I'm doing now is. I'm taking a video of these while they're doing they're just so tilt and i'm trying to get them set up as an nf t lou. This is not bad because you can't sell the sticker sell the nf right that's right. Hey nafta just you. As a person. I am not physically and not yet. But i'm ready to sell my soul for the highest bidder. Yes grimes did that. I believe ooh lucky girl she truly was and then she had to put in a lot of like a caveats in it of like you can't have be wanting my soul for ill purposes and it was like. Oh boy that's what that's a circle back. I'm gonna pass right by right so so an nf thi. This is incredible. Yeah a non fungible token. Ooh you even know what it stands for. Yes i i've i've written it on my hand because i keep forgetting fungible token and each part of that i really grasped but i take on part especially to get so. It's not it's not fungible right and fungible is well. We all know and joking. It's like it's like describing that orange ball describing that we gotta do because coach are you. Are you looking to share any storage unit space. It's yemen's empty it's bert. But it's empathize. There's no lock on it anymore. It's down to the post. Pay the monthly thing anymore. But i'd be happy to go there and try to get all right. Well maybe not. I guess would be the balkans. Okay yeah well so. I'm taking videos of stickers. And i've just well. A lot of them are really speaking me scott. That's the problem. Are you taking these videos on your phone. Or i don't know how to make it a gif. I don't know how to make it a digital piece of art. But i'm just step one is you're still except one step one. I think it's important that several steps for a plan a list. Are you into bullet journaling. really smart. Absolutely i write everything down on one little bullet. I save because when it's all over you in my head and it's going to have every bono as oh don't do this. Do we need to get someone into the can here for an intervention in this can with. Let's set some goals for you. I'm fine okay. Scott jiwei coach. You bullet jeering while we heard about you. Don't even know exactly what it is. The dino at bullet journaling is down a period. And then you write words next to it so instead of doing list with numbers. It's putting an x ray of bustle. Likes you imagine no no. Imagine an orange ball of big one. That's very bouncy similar lines. One through the middle perhaps a logo imagining a flat one. Oh we'll fill with air. Fill it with cab. i can't imagine. can you imagine the small hole where the needle goes in some people. Say to put your finger on that every time you line up for your free throws. Did you ever say that code. He'd never said that to me. I thought it was on it. So it's one of those balls. Did you play basketball. All never but i have a lot of basketball holographic stickers. And they'll tell you they're doing that. Form the same. Each time over the wrist. I i imagine seem to know more about basketball form than you. do about. Non fungible tokens. And you're getting into this business every new business you have to learn about sky and you know i wasn't just going to stumble into finding out you so nervous. You can't pronounce stumble listen scott. Wouldn't you be nervous if you had several storage units. Your uncle pays for full of fidget spinners. I thought it was nervous to show that to just your your pass. Yeah and you're done your choices and go. I'll sums all right. i understand that ball. Shrink it down. Fill it all in. It's a bullet and that's how you make a list. Audits bullet journaling helps you of organize your thoughts yukon down back into nut shouting pains in my bullet journal every day. Try not to shout. try not to shell. So i have step one. Acquire several holographic properties. Okay so i have. I have a ruler. That shows a gymnast doing multiple flips. Oh that's pretty. Good gymnast of note. Like carrie stroup or known just like a cartoon cartoon. Jim cartoon gymnasts famous cartoon like scooby doo. No just like a cartoon. Image of gymnast. So this is a nondescript cartoon. This is not a famous klay come on. Yeah this is not like calvin and hobbes doing anything no. It's not a famous the detail of a bird where you just draw. One line in a bird is just a v. Sure it's some cartoonists like the guy who does all of his cartoons of famous caricatures in one line like what's his name all we'll never get there. I don't believe it. I just don't believe in our billy ever get there. It's up in a restaurant or something like that like that. Yeah that's the end of that. I think she's mostly just legs in purple leotard. If anyone were to look at this person they wouldn't go. Oh my god that looks like my sister. Or i'll it might look like my sister scott but i think that's in the either beholder okay. But it's not supposed to look like anyone. Now he's supposed to look like no human being that exists. Well it's a very tiny cartoon image then cartoon be it. Yeah i'd say it's about the size of earing backing for just a a universal stuff. You nobody everybody all at the same hueco. You get sued if it looks like a specific person ever released for that person. I just want you to say it right now. It does not look like grimes. Okay okay did not pay for grimes his soul. It does not look like grime. Grams of soul is not entrapped in this rule way. Scott coach coach seaway scott. Do you think grimes saw the episode of the simpsons. Bart sold is so do you think she saw the episode of snl. She was on with her boyfriend. Maybe daddy i don't know crock washed your back or she was. You were there. I was there i everything. The dress rehearsal tau watch it. She was she was in it she was she was in. She was princess peach princess peach a lot of there. There are some a lot of things got cut. What a brilliant day. What a beautiful day in comedy. Not enough not enough dot cut. I was actually. The show was actually twice as long. I would respect. Snl if they came out one night at eleven thirty and said live from new york and saturday night. You know the kind of thing they do that their describing the orange ball. That's every top. Shell i would respect it if they were like if they were like. Hey we did. We did a ninety minute. Show a dress rehearsal. Not good enough. We're going to do fifteen minutes tonight. And then the rest is just local news. I respect it love it. That would be that would be quite a move quite a power. Move power powerful. Now we're forward. That's what i played. Is that right. Yeah that was i mean. Yeah the big number four. That's right the big guy on the block. Now have you ever thought about. We were talking about the local news. Have you ever thought about getting these things on the news to get ceiling committed crazy crime. Wow wow that's that's an idea. Maybe i could. Maybe i could pretend that. I had a squirrel who had a jet ski and bring down some of my my local anchors and say wow you're hear me i interest you in an nf t do you own a squirrel first of all or is it a year stories. Just gonna fall apart the first moment there they're scott could perhaps. Maybe i need a couple more bullets in that plan. A couple more steps in that. I could circle back. You're only on step one step. One acquire holographic image in into. But i felt like you've done step to you've used to. I started video. I videotaped you started winning me. At how many i have. I got four little videos. What does the hold up with the videos. Because they're the size of the images of the size of the back of your earrings right so they're quite small you can you. Can you know you can zoom in on them. I don't know if you've adjust camera back. You don't have to stand ten feet away from taxiway coach. This is great feedback. I yeah okay. So i had. I was a little far back. Also i just did it with my bedspread in the background which is very busy. Oh you need to put something for scale to assume into that the pan or images. Just the okay. This is great feedback. Tell you what. I like the sound of this image. How do i pay for it okay. So we have a customer. I need you to have a wallet in coin base. I'm out. This is getting complicated. And for this reason he's out. Okay scott jiwei. Are you interested in. Perhaps having a crypto currency that you could exchange for my nf t-. I'll tell you what these are words. That i have written on my hand and they are starting to smear and sweat so so. We gotta get these conversation at the end of my buzzwords z. y. Z. seems interested. I would go fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty. What yeah. What are we talking money. Nola crypto crypto one crypto. I have a dog coined that i've been holding onto. Just in case i get rich is exciting because a holographic sticker that i have in my mind. I'm not sure. If it israel or just an amalgamation of several childhood memories. But i think i had a very fun holographic sticker that i got in a spelling bee in our local library where the dogs. Tung came out and then rolled back in. If i could find this sticker that may or may not exist take a small video of at turn it into a gift to be an nf t would you to go fifty fifty on doug coin in exchange for this. Nf t why are you. Why do you have the dog coining case you get rich. I think most people get them so they do become rich right. You know you never know. It's like what are you going to do with it. If you're rich i'm going to sell it so i get richer but his you'll be richard with sell it. Now's dare is like seven cents. But i i wanted to dollar. She's got away scot anyway. We'll go fifty fifty on this. I'll go. I'll take fifty percent of your dog koi. No no you gotta bring your own. Bring my own as giving me a dog. A dog toy. What kind of dog coin do we know this. Yeah i think those. Oh i thought you had your own coin. I was fully ready to believe. There's also jog pointless. Start dog coin circling bags guy on this to you. Can't just be on sunday. Created dog already. Oh my god this. Is our ideas like that but the servers because all we need we need shivers. The environment the environment that people are taking up enough computing power to constantly be solving equation. Izzo coach billips. You always you always had old computers in your apartment. Yeah and i would drop by. Yeah none of them working but a lot of old ones. You haven't got a ton of old computers that's true maybe we could rewire something. Yeah cabbie asked with you guys. I hope so. I mean this is what this show is. People come on here to be on the i. I should go back to fidget spinners. Yeah that seemed like your brand. If you like i should just get back in my old storage unit. Call my uncle and say. Can i get the keys. Did out my old fidget spinners. Just get back to. What really makes me happy. Yeah i mean that didn't make you happy. It's making you nervous and sweating nervous. And but it's all. I guess what i knew seems like you're you know you're you're trying to gild the lily here trying to do things that you're not familiar with trying to leap and hope that i'd catch something you know and i and and now i just feel like what i caught was. The return to fidget spinners. Think i might circle back spinning circle back. Yeah yes scott. This is me giving back to what you're good at instead of trying to become a tv star like maybe use a small cable show as a launching pad to do something bigger. No no. let's take it back to podcasting. let's go right back to bidder. Yeah feels good. Feels good to do that. Familiar firm melia a little lukewarm beth. The feeling of your own skin course. Nothing like returning to a job you know how to it sort of exhausted all of the possibilities of signing that spins around balanced on your finger. And you don't have to think too hard about it. This show is the fidget spinner of comedy. Beloved by fifth graders. Just can't teaching there. You go well. Wonderful chrysanthemum. Tremors were back to where you are a high feel-good we are running out of time. We just have time for one final feature on the show that is of course a little something called plugs in. That was meaning amazing. That was. This is what i'd like to hear by gordy. Brave gordy brave. Thank you some security. That was a good one enjoyed. That and i'm not lying. I loved it. Then that is. I came on this show to be honest and i am being very honest about that. What are we plug in here anyway. Obviously the show e way. Watch this show on showtime and other shopping apps on. Yeah it's great anything else going on in your career that you can talk about. Are you pivoting to movies. Because i failed downward when it came to tv but it seems like out of anyone. I know you're you're going to get the big bounce. You know time will tell also writing a book. That's could be dropping soon. So yeah how will you know will it. Just be at a bookstore. And you're like holy shit yes. Suddenly i will be on another press tour and that'll be different but no very writing upstate. This summer so the book will be released february. Twenty twenty two but other things are coming. But i don't know what i'm allowed to say. You never know i've so to be alive. Yes plug life. Light is kicking ass. Take take a names. Of course life doesn't just kick ass without taking names. You gotta take names if you think when it takes names though it's just you know making friends it's like hey i'd love to kick your ass later and i don't want to forget your names and me write it on down. Maybe a pneumonic device next to it every time someone kicks my ass. I give him my business card. I want them to have my name. So then they circle back. Say hey remember coach. His interests a lot of people circling back and finding your apartment and kicking your ass again. Yes if i could just ping this for you. I was wondering if you remember. When i kicked your ass absolutely i see you still got my business card there chrysanthemum. What are you plug in here. Well scott don't get nervous and don't show you know scott. I'm plug in doing something that feels good for you. And if that's collecting fidget spinners that speak to you because they're they're made of a matt metal and that makes you feel excited and that's what that is for you. Sure but for other people could probably be like listening to a podcast could shore. Yeah you could. Listen off the improvised musical podcast anywhere. Podcasts are sure you're a fan you mentioned. I think the last time you were gonna show. You're a fan of that show unrelated to people and they do an improvised musical every single. We and i mean z. Y. you are a singer. You should be on that love. You know. I love it. It provides musical. Okay well unrelated. Things might come together just might merge that would be incredible coach billips. What are you plug in here. Well i'd like to plug directly to my children. Your grandma live at amphitheater in town. Come on yeah yeah i got the amphitheater. You don't even have to sign up for it. It's going to be saturday night. Six to six thirty this saturday or just any center most saturdays. I'll be there every saturday for my kids to come see the grow coach. Billups fake cry. Okay you're getting good at it. Thank you only. You were good at the grandma character like that work on that one. I wanna plug. I have another show. Three them in my pivot to podcasts. That comes out on thursday. That's a polyp tompkins and lauren laptops and myself and that's just the three of us sitting around talking and we play a game at the end and that's every thursday and boy. There was a big announcement as part of one of our most popular features on the show lawrence topics and big announcement. If you haven't been keeping up with. Lauren laptops big personal announcement. You should go back and check out that episode all right. Let's close up the old plug bag when you see something open. Get a rope up in star to twiss. You found that this what to do. And do you do got up and vile with around openness. Oh all right. That was great. That was flour in my plug bag by to the horn end to the horn. I don't know what that means. You're laughing coach. Make 'em to the hord music. I don't know like here comes out of the horn now to the horn horn. Yeah mouse to the horn. Yeah do you want to say mouth. Why i just want to say i get. It is defensive when i say asked to ebb. That's thank you guys. I wanna thank you so much pleasure having you on great see again and really enjoyed a police. Come back on your press tour. Oh yes thank you for having me. This was such a pleasure was a chaotic. Yes did i learn anything. No but that's kind of what. I enjoy incredible. You are an iconic guests. Thank you so much coach. Billups thank you i. I wasn't going to say. 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053 The Soul of an Octopus by Sy Montgomery

Book Club with Julia and Victoria

1:16:09 hr | 11 months ago

053 The Soul of an Octopus by Sy Montgomery

"We wanted to read literally every every single one. Yeah very here. So revolt it. It's wonderful yeah. I read the whole thing. Two days harshly. Because victoria takes longer to read things he gets. I i hope wes anderson added a young child thought to themselves. Study what he learned the word aesthetic. You might historical fiction. And i liked dragon. Welcome to book club with julia and victoria. We are two roommates and friends since high school who read a book and talk each episode. This episode we're talking about the soul of an octopus a. Surprising exploration into the world of consciousness by simon gumri. And if you haven't read the book yet we are definitely gonna recommend that you go out on meet it and just know this conversation. We'll have spoilers. Like what does it spoil about. Auspices let me tell you. There's still a lot of this story advising amount of spoil. You have been warned but yeah welcome to the party. Everyone welcome guys so we are also joined by one of my dearest friends and resident octopus expert. Caleb our kaylin. I have been friends since like the fall of freshman freshman year of college. We went on a sort of impromptu road trip to san diego and we had like a four hour long conversation while listening to onto and it was like life changing so even going. I don't remember but remember your little blue car and we've been friends ever since we thought we each thought the other person was super weird and turns out that we were both right but for great reasons and since then we have both been diagnosed with autism. Which is like a superfund twist. That explains so much about who we are as people and so we've been bonded even more since then. Kayla is an easy lon lev practitioner and just general creative currently in the bay area and yeah just a wonderful human being so thanks for being here kayla. It was so nice to have a reason to throw myself back into octopus. Like readings studies. I felt like renewed. A part of my life soul sullivan octopus and of economy sweet. So sweet yeah so my thanks to you. Lovely people for doing this thing. Yeah enjoy. I mean you were really the start of the saul. What was your experience reading this book. Why did you pick it for a to year together Yes so if you've been faithfully listening to our podcast all throughout quarantine. You will know that. I was reading this book for like a solid three months this past spring so like when covert hit. I wanna say starting around. April is when i started reading. It didn't finish it until june. And this was the only book i could get done in that time Which was why we were doing. All the harry potters but yeah it was like the only thing that i felt like i could read because it was such a lovely charming wholesome kind of warm hug of a book while also you know it's really intriguing. It's really fascinating like you're sort of following this woman's journey to like understand something. That's very different from herself and she really embraces it and so that felt very uplifting like it was just kind of everything i wanted in a book in early quarantine and yeah and so then i think i i'm sure in conversations around the protests kayla. I brought up that. I was reading this book and you were like. Oh my god. I love octopus. We need talk about this. I want to read that next. And i was like well. What we do is record our conversation normal friends do so could just formalize this whole thing. Yeah you know so. Yeah i because. I really wanted to have you on and it just felt like the right book. So yeah that was kinda wineries. I'm honored yeah. I feel similarly like i started reading this book just last month and november here in chicago cases. Cova cases ramping up like crazy in a lot of decisions being made about like. Where do we do thanksgiving do thanksgiving day. We go places. I think we're staying home up locking down staying help mentally i. There was like one week where i want more than a week. There was one specific week where i felt like physically and emotionally like i was back in april twenty like i. I was just completely back in that space of like. I don't know what see my loved ones in like crying. Lot soured release emotions and this book was like all caps true joy. Like i just need this book And when you first mentioned july. I remember being like intrigued. I was like. I'm not really into books about science. Hugely two books about philosophy. Though i do like a sprinkling of both my rating ans. I wasn't really sure what. I thought when you first mentioned it but seeing how much you liked it and then just like three pages. I'm here for this. I like it ed's It probably back a little bit too. When i was a kid. I was like super dolphins for awhile and cure. Like let me go to florida every year for a vacation. And i would like by these like ceramic dolphin figurines. I don't know why they sold more than one place. They were all kind of match like the same manufacturer artists or whatever unsettling ho collections dolphin figuring books. Dolphins and i would like correct people that killer whale is not an appropriate term orca and surges Moved on in my listen to other hobbies interests after after that. I haven't given much thought to like the c in c creatures so fun injured rating. So what you're saying. Is that dolphins and their relatives brought out the early. Social justice warrior victoria. We will not discriminate against the orcas. We will call them. Yeah if i were but those words but i. I'm just imagining writing. Powerpoint about like why people have misunderstood orcas and we are probably did someone in power points child. I love the image. All right. so you as i've said are very docked buses fair to say this special interest of yours. So what was your experience reading the book. Like what research had you done prior to it. So i think experiencewise i reading. The books felt like it. So much. her Just narrating her experience with an octopus in with other people are not to push. There was like a lot of kind of this cuddly sensation similarly to win. I'm petting my dog which is also me like projecting what it would feel like for myself to touch octopus and my experience I prior to his readings. I mean we'll get to this the end to but there's another octopus book that i really love Legitimate name right. Now it's called other minds And that's kind of more around the evolution of octopuses and then looking at different studies and kind of evaluating the possibilities of like octopus consciousness. I guess and then There's a documentary on netflix. Called my octopus teacher. That's another good one And then just like readings and youtube videos and that kind of thing here and there. It's definitely a self self soothing tool to i mean So like you know. If i'm feeling stressed or anxious i'll just watch videos of octopus behaving and Fun facts and stuff and That's kind of just a a small gist. I think sometimes victoria might be an exception to this. But i think a lot of times neuro. Typical people underestimate the soothing. Power of fun facts. We're just like learning some random new piece of information and being done for the day is like so healing god. I never thought about that before. I'm gonna go think about that for ten hours. And then all my friends about it and you feel so much better and like it's so interesting. How like yeah. You feel the sense of kind of accomplishment. And as it's not debatable. Like granville accomplish and now ago do a job for six hours right. It's like we're -ccomplish. We're actually just gonna call it for your whole system just like and that's it that's it. Are you talking about like my love for fun. Facts but like my dad every day. When i came home from school he'd be like what did you learn today. And he wouldn't take just like you know stove mass as it answer. It has to be something specific. And then anytime we're like come to my house like a fun fact. I learned dan. Did you know blah blah blah blah. And he's like oh you something. Everyday i learned something today. Go to bed now note. I say allowed him as a tire. Dad kids can. I sleep at a redone. Props to there was very encouraged to like be excited about learning and information which lays into usually my favorite episode Partially my report is. Because i get to go down a rabbit hole in research for a long time. Then come back until july about our author. And i'm looking at my notes and i didn't do it. I did all my prep last night. And i didn't wanna be on my phone anymore. My laptop like Screen says all do the author by tomorrow and look in my mind. I thought i did it. I'm just gonna read some things that i'm currently looking at the website and we're pedia which are usually Goto resources for other bios. So yeah for all of you listening if this doesn't get out. This is a peek behind the curtain. Society montgomery was born in nineteen fifty eight in frankfurt germany and she grew up in new jersey and eventually went onto graduate from syracuse university with a degree in magazine journalism in french. Language literature As well as psychology. That's two degrees. That sounds like three but She eventually was also given honorary doctorates from a few university at the time. Hungary is a naturalist author and scriptwriter. Who writes for both children and adults and she so far has published twenty eight books including this one the sylvan after which was a finalist for the two thousand fifteen national book award amazon bestseller lists big praise. That's what i hope for life. Good praise okay. With a book is good good pig. Which is her best selling memoir of her life with her big. Christopher hogg would which is incredible pick. My god is an incredible. She's also journey of the pink dolphins. Which i want to go Spell of the tiger and search for the golden moon bear. Someone is described partner jones part. Emily dickenson dickinson. This quite introvert never left home though. So i would say. She probably leans more towards indiana jones. Yeah like the two best people. Like i wanna meet that person the combination of those two people. Oh my god. Yeah i imagine. They're they're kind of signifying like emily dickinson pros. And then the adventurous part of indiana jones. Yeah probably wow. I personally i just a lot of other really great authors that we could make okay but she also shaefer emily dickinson do she. Also the way. She describes her house on this book like she lives in a pretty remote area with just like a bunch of animals like. I don't like people so emily dickinson might not be that far off. You haven't got ready. Simul memory is not only authored. A person really really into words and ideas and storytelling. She's also very into animals in nature And she said this in an interview once be a good creature. How'd you be compassionate. I think the animals teach compassion better than anything else. Incompassion doesn't necessarily just mean a little mass at the sore foot and you try to fix it. it means getting yourself inside the mind and heart of someone else. Seeing someone soul looking for the truth animals teach you all of that. And that's how you get compassionate heart so maybe we would be like indiana jones. La dickinson line goodall. Yeah we're like insert other philosophy loss for on consciousness compassion here. Yeah maybe Karen armstrong she whole book compassionate philosophy. I do get the impression from her as a person that like. She feels like when i saw on her book. That she's a naturalist i was like. Is that even a job anymore. Like that sounds like like. I am a like eighteenth century. Men like wants to go on an adventure and i like paint flowers as i go and like document. You know what i mean like. I'm yeah i that doesn't sound real. I saw i have this image of her as like really old. Timey kind of wild person you know who just like stocks tigers for fun you know. It doesn't sound real exactly. Feels like and maybe this is true that it can mean anything at this point Like anything that has anything to do with the natural world world young yum. I do have the picture of the. You're saying. The eighteenth and nineteenth century like british man but i also imagine like sketching a i know some brown grass in brown little bird like i'm sure the birds interesting but like i don't imagine a naturalist like tires and guerrillas in arch a-plus in other like in my mind more exciting not to diss on bird lovers on their more exciting mammals and sea creatures and so it is interesting. I wonder when she started calling herself a naturalists or if other people like trying to find a word for it okay well. I will quickly summarize this book can start talking about it. So as is probably clear. That book is pretty difficult to summarize. Because it's technically. I think i would call it a memoir because it's really like a personal narration. But you can kind of get you kinda tall. Like she's kind of writing this in real time like you know. She sits down and writes a chapter and then like three months later. Something else happens and she writes that and so it almost feels like some kind of explorers journal. You know what i mean. But she's just like not having thirty minutes from her home to go to the aquarium but it. That's kind of the feeling that you get an It's about her experience about and connecting with a few different Octopuses that live that at the new england aquarium and sort of the people who work there and volunteer there and just anyone who has like a really deep connection with these particular creatures. She gathers these buildings really lasting friendships and gathers these people around her and so you also kind of followed their stories as we go along and learn about their loved ones and why they connect with an octopus and It's really really beautiful. And you sort of because an octopus only lives may be three years. Max we see the full life cycle of i would say. The main octopus octavia. We see her full life. And then there's a few others that we see. I also memorial cross yard written my notes because i'm like what would i say this. Yes like if you like gun at my head. What genre is this. I'm like it's a personal. A first person narration about a specific period of her life and it has a sort of topical focus on at like her relationship with octopuses. And what coach. Heinz julia here. If you want some amazing book related content. There are three ways that you can support us right now. The first is delete a five star review on apple podcasts. If you feel that we are worthy of a five star review. The second is to buys a coffee. It's just a one time. Donation like the price of a cup of coffee There's a widget on our website and also through our instagram link. Trie and then. The last one is to subscribe to pod hero. It's a platform you were. You just pay a single like monthly subscription fee. That's really cheap. And it gets split between all of your favorite podcasts. You can support everyone. You love all at once amazing and we use it as well. So yeah. that's it. Thanks for all your support. Let's get back to books as she falls in love with these creatures like you do too and that's really the charm of the book But i think we'll start off this conversation with some octopus facts. He had just to like establish a basis for conversation so to persevere ex ex. Yeah 'cause we i know. I definitely learned a lot reading this book. I'm sure victoria. You learned a lot reading this book. Oh i learned so much like the first three pages it was like it's to his not occupy all these meetings. Were actually wrong. I mean like ground. Zero octopus a. Mike they have a legs to you. Call them that tentacle suckers. I feel like the octopus. I'm going to start with this. I just feel like the octopus. I think we've mentioned this. Blake evades our small human understanding like an embodied thing. And so i'm gonna try to do this in like kind of sections of the octopus to bring a full picture together. I guess okay so author. Excited i will start with. 'cause you're not circuiting notes. I'm like gotti my highland air except kayla speaking. I was like how do i do. The octopuses justice in out. I'm so excited. So i'll start with their skin and kind of like work deeper into the system. I guess great so they actually have their the way that they changed color. Camouflage they have these pixels sacks of color like that's their skin and there are a couple of layers to this. There's the layer of skin that can produce different colors so it can produce like reds yellows are kind of general main colors and then there's another layer of layer of skin that can reflect incoming light but also like separate and manipulate it so that it can change what color that it is based on the light. That's coming in and then there is the third layer that just reflects the light exactly as it is whatever color is like in the environment. So you have this kind of complex thing where an octopus based on like survival needs can reflect its exact environment to camouflage Or like some version of its environment to trick. Whatever prey air whatever predatory thing is around it and then you have this other really interesting side of that where an octopus can just reflect whatever colors that is feeling an experience. It's like this octopus can can be reflecting. Its experience through literally whatever colors to Yeah and it. It's something i am sure. We'll keep topping on his link. These extremely creative adaptable creatures can use this to as either a survival mechanism to evade predators But also just to be the like mischievous expressive things that they aren't which will get into better. But anyway i just love that fact about them and then So they have they can taste and smell with their suckers And an octopus. I think a giant pacific octopus had somewhere like above two thousand suckers on their body on between their eight tentacles. And now that you say that they're like you know tasting and smelling with the suckers. I'm imagining two thousand nostra's enhance is so much information input yes some fascinating so overwhelming and it's apparently each sucker has more taste receptors than a human tongue. How am i come. And so in the each work independently of each other which i think speaks to kind of like their nervous system which will yeah and Each receptor can manipulate around thirty pounds. Wow making them an extremely strong animal and if they don't like the taste of the water. I'm just like imagining like i have a thousands of tongues all over my body i would be able to taste and smell the air with like really exact precision but let me read would like be constantly inhaling and tasting everything all the time Like what what if the water is polluted like. What if there's a gross human in there like they could probably taste us. And that i think speaks to like just how i use the word sensitive Just i mean that has its own. Connotations sense oriented. The animals are like And and if you remember in the book but there was a part there were multiple parts. Where like an octopus would react. Almost negatively to a person that that was interacting with it. And yeah cy would observe like maybe it's because they're a smoker and they're picking up the nicotine through their skin or whatever Which is just frigging ridiculous. And another reason why. I think i just connect with these animals so much there So sense oriented ram. And i think because i keep alluding to it. I'm gonna go into dr pisses nervous system yet And i love talking about this. Because i think the octopus really challenges our understanding of the body. Mind system as you separate things like we love to talk about like is a body oriented or mind oriented and and with the octopus. There's not like one control system so it's not like the brain telling the rest of the body what to do there is a brain that can kind of like send messages to be doing something. And then there's also the nervous system is Kind of decentralized. So there's the central central nervous system is also in the arms and tentacles. And so yes the brain could be saying okay are like go pick something up but then the arm can also just the acting of its own accord without like sending that message to the brain so that there was an experiment of an octopus needing to get through a maze to get to the food but they could see the food and so they were noting that the octopus could like us. There is to to send their arms to the food but also just as well could Could be kind of like feeling around the maze with just their arm and like not be using their mind system whenever movie to find the food I don't know enough to like my just bullshitting Here veggie when you were talking to like a would that be so overwhelming and one thing that starts me in the book that cy pointed out of like the scientists researchers having to identify like when they're projecting on the animal their own experiences as humans when they're recognizing the intelligence of the animal on their own accord that feel like for octopuses like really destructive to have like the hand of a smoker touching them when they that's nothing they usually touched but they've always been completely immersed in their bodies unlike and then also decentralize brain the gets overload will do many senses and our brain has to decide what to deal with and like block certain things out whereas like their arm can discover something and be like. Oh that's interesting in this other. I'm committing something totally different and they don't have to like compete for like brain capacity right so that's me time. The book together with maybe but those are my thoughts. Now that's true. That is an interesting thought. Because like yeah when i think of sensory overload. I'm thinking about. There are multiple senses taking trying to fight for space in the same place Whereas like one are maybe overwhelmed and may not communicate that to the rest of the body or may deal with it on its own or may request backup but like a lotta those wanted for like please back up but it's not sort of centered in one space could go through the whole body That's an interesting thing to think about. And this is one of the reasons i mean. We're getting into kind of the philosophy but this is one of the reasons. I think i connected with octopus too. Because it's like this like intensely experiencing the world through your body This is something that before. I had an autism diagnosis. I was trying to rely so heavily on in order to like deal with stimuli overload. And so i was like i got to a point where a background info on like was a dance major person learner or whatever and so i was used to people telling me what to do with my body and that just wasn't working anymore and so i was looking for other resources to give me information of how survive i guess and i think i think a cool way to we. There's this we. I think a lot of us are trying to learn how to decolonize our understanding of things. And i actually was thinking about how this feels like a cool metaphor for that and Or just like kind of exploration of that Like how what is the intelligence in my in my arm in my legs and my muscles Telling me that my brain can't like think through you know yeah that's true because the sort of prioritization of like front brain knowledge. We talked about this with science. Mike's book episodes back but that was like a very european way of doing things saying like this. Is this part of this. Very small part of my brain that uses language is the only thing that's right and nothing else is rain and yeah. I like that idea so victoria. What is something that you learnt while reading this book with our start. I think the camouflage stuff that you were talking about kayla like that blew my mind. I think that was one of the many things that i just had. No clue about octopus. Maybe if you mentioned like octopus can change their color. I'd be like yeah. I think i've heard that somewhere. But just like the extent at which they can communicate through color. They're like almost like a bad analogy. Become a mood ring. Change colors and you know what it means not the actual marines even really match people's motions but thought was super fascinating and then the The aquarium life is what i also found fascinating and i think sometimes my default is like let them live in the wild like lever. Everyone should be wild. And i recognize and i do enjoy going to Aquariums in some like wildlife sanctuaries. Zoos and i know many of the redoing a really important work research that we can help understand. You know the new england aquarium didn't exist sign. Montgomery never read this book. We wouldn't be sitting here talking about well. Kale would be. I may not otherwise. We found learning about the aquarium. And how that's ron also just seeing. How all these volunteers interacted with each other in. There's so many volunteers that make this aquarium round. And they were like one of my favorite friends of si- that she talks about Wilson like he's dedicated so much of his retirement age years to work at a query and he's like the go to person for octopus games like he creates these really interesting toys and lock boxes to keep the octopus engaged at like Excited to do something not dislike. Sit in their corner. The tank all the time on that really fascinating and then elements that had never thought of like finding dory landmark Showing so many of us have smart. Octopuses are optimists gets out of a tank based on the real story from from that aquarium. That's based on and so that was interesting. The book to read to which is sad staff. When one of the octopus gets out but doesn't make its way back to water and dying on. Colley died by harbour. Br it Maya heart rack. I was like his own head she was. She was so against a day before her. Yeah i was might not yes just the day before to which like should i stay the night just to make sure that collies okay. Just moments like that Hair my heart corp baby. Yeah that was really fascinating to me. And i've said this on the podcast. Before but i'm a big post office and so the fact that you can like shit live animals like noah's get thing but like to read the whole experience of moving secrets to aquariums. I found totally fascinating It may my little postal office. Heart seeing yeah. I also wrestled with that leg. Because i've i've never been a big fan of zoos. Because i you know i go. And the animal's always look so sad and they miss their homes. And i just i wanna put them all back like i never liked going because i was it just gave me all the sad energy and i didn't understand why people would enjoy gawking. These creatures are like yelling at them for entertainment. I was like what they're they're not here for you. Don't care about you. Love their lives. so yeah. I like going into this. I think i had some mixed feelings about aquariums. it was like. Is this good for the fisheries. Do they like it But i mean the jury is still out on that. But i can definitely say that like the people that cy interacts with like. Love these creatures and just know them so well and know their personalities and like jazz really really loved them like he all the all the creatures in the aquarium not just the octopuses like really like there is some woman whose specialty is like electric eels. She's like their vet or something. And i was like this woman. She's just like fearless and she just loves things that live in water. And i'm like wow so that really made my heart sing when i saw how much they were loved by the people who work there and volunteer there. So yeah but i yeah likely tori. I knew nothing and learned so much from this book. I read like i mean i have. I have a confession to make 'em terrified of octopus. I look at them like they're pictures in the middle of this book. That of like her friends she shares some pictures of the octopussy. She's talking about and i had skim. 'cause i can't i can't look at them. I i don't know like. I have a very vivid memory of walking through an aquarium. Like kind of squinting trying not to look too closely. And there was an octopus. Like plastered up against the glass with all of its suckers. I literally that move out of the room and that was the last one i saw in person so yeah but i really grew to love them. Like i really. I love them. From far i will never interact with them but i still love them to death and i think they're better off without me because they just have the best personalities and they're so feisty and smart and sweet and powerful and like i like fell in love. I read this book. And i fell in love. I'd i understand why these creatures have like little cult followings your enemy. They're they're like rock stars. There are people like kayla all over the world. They were just like all they want to think about and talk about and i understand i get it now. so suitably projecting whenever human experience of having onto octopus. But it's usually. I feel that while i feel that. They're like kind of aliens and like probably under like consents things that we aren't even aware of but so i feel like they can sense your appreciation and disliked respected smile. That's thank you just like the way that a natural life has respect for each other in itself. Yeah you can be our go between okay. I'll send them letters. So this is the best medium for you. Juliette to like have that entry point octopuses. Because you didn't have to look at the documentary or u2 or hear anything like that or seeing the feel like i can read from a safe. Yes but yeah. I so another thing i want to talk about as i was saying like these activists have sort of gathered like a sort of cult following. I don't know how to describe it of people who like just love them so much and it seems like once you touch one. You've never go back. It's like a life changing experience and throughout the book size sort of collects this little eclectic group of friends who all love the octopuses at this aquarium and honestly my favorite part of the book was sort of getting to know these people one of the things. I noted about this part. I just thought it was really I'm not even sure what the adjective would be. But i appreciated that. This like group or collection of people. We're just folks that were all across the ability. Or i guess you had people on the spectrum disabilities just i. I don't know what her intention was here but she. I think very clearly illustrated the things that people dealt with on a daily daily basis like when people were going for surgeries or having leg intense. Migraines i i feel like that's not often. We often like just shush. Those things i found it really cool to relate people it's like With also just like the real kind of disability things that they experience every day. Guess yeah yeah. I feel like this is where bunker make on steps from naturalist into like memorised author Were like storyteller. Specifically of human experiences. As well i feel like that religious amplifies her discussion of octopuses. Because there's these little moments kind of mirror like when there's uncertainty of where they're going to put their second octopus and how they're gonna take care of her. Wilson is also Dealing with a situation where. He's putting his wife in a hospice center in like just like a detail that doesn't need to be said for the octopus information to come across the octopus stories Adds that layer of connection In also i think it made me reflect on the people my life where we connect over one thing but it it spills over into the sharing our entire lives with each other like we don't have anything else in common but like we're gonna sit there and stop because we also attend the same group that's into one that aware in this inquire or like I think back to like college where i had some friends that we only talked when we hung out our one club that we were all in but it was like an entry point to like build a friendship. There can have your your meeting place new starting ground. I love that they like everyone's day. We're gonna come here together. We can like octopus. But it's also like how can you not stand there and talk when you all being caressed by octopus and deeply carrying out. Someone kind of brings people together. I guess kind of saying like we are the octopus in the octopuses us. You know like we're not that different And yeah that was kind of what i got from that but Yeah i like. I absolutely loved the friendship that blossomed. It felt like you were saying like it felt very much lack. I mean the only comparison. I have is like fraud just people when you have your special interest friends where you just you like one thing and we all like it a whole lot to intensity that no one else really wants to deal with and so we're all just going to be really intense together about this one thing and that it forms that i liked. That's how we make friends is really like i like this thing this thing. Oh my god. Let's be friends forever actually makes me wonder too. Can i am to you. It makes me wonder if it's like if it's a animal or you know to octopuses our top pick that brings in neuro divergence or if and this is something i wonder about a lot of things or if like on any scale or if it's Something that kind of like an interest that defies like neuro types. I guess Because it does seem like a very special interest kind of thing with the people attracted to it. It's like a special interest Topic and this is something that kind of always interests me sometimes to exhaustion. Just because i am wanting to connect with people who aren't neuro divergent as well And yeah it's just like. I like i do like to consider that. Maybe you know there are enough things. That transcend Narrow types if it can be. I guess if it can be considered on all sides oh part part of me wonders all that to say part of me wonders if cya montgomery is somewhere on the spectrum because the way she introduces the book. And i'm just gonna read it. Because i loved this quote. So she says i've always harbored a fondness for monsters. Even as a child. I had rooted for godzilla and king kong instead of for the people trying to kill them. It seemed to me that these monsters irritation was perfectly reasonable. All and and soon as i read that i was like she's autistic like like there. How many of us have been at someone's house and watched. Some kids like terrorize a small dog thinking that they're showing affection and the dog is clearly very upset and not comfortable and just not having a good time but the kids think that the dog is having fun and they think that they're showing affection and they think that they're being nice and sided with the dog and not the kids. I that happened to be all the time where i was just like. It gave me a really bad impression of most children. Because i'm like y'all are really mean to your and not in the way that we think of like overly mean but just like not understanding how to read a dog's signals and not like respecting their as yes not yes exactly to to theory sign. Montgomery wrote a biography of temple. Grandin oh my god okay. Well then okay. Well then it's definitely true. There's no way i like. Yeah because i mean how many times also have you like either. I watched a film or something and like identified with the monster or the outside character. The character like the robot. Or you know what. I mean like the one that is supposed to be kind of the foil to show the humanity of the others. But you're like no. You're all monsters knows what's up and like i told him i really related to that statement. Because i was like. Yeah i agree like i think. The dinosaurs were justified in attacking the people because the people invaded there space for no or whatever and so. Yeah i there seems to me to be and i don't know if anyone stunning to research on this but there seems to me a pattern that i see. Is this connection between autism. Or just neuro divergence in general and a connection like an emotional connection to octopuses or fascination with them or some kind of like comparison with them. I just feel like whenever. I look up something about them. There's an autistic person who knows about it. You know like it. Just it's hard to separate the two and even in the book that happens you know is one of the main for girls that she that befriends is autistic. And she's all sweetheart and she is like her thing like she's always been super invested in them and so I don't know. I'm just sort of laying that out. I don't have any like real concrete thoughts. But i'm just curious what you guys think. Yeah can i draw. Some connections might be. Yeah so a will already mentioned this but octopus involved To not have Like a protective shell like. They don't have a skeleton anyways and then at one point in evolution they had shells and then evolved out of that. And so that's like really said this but in order to survive. They air just incredibly adaptive to their environment and create a mischievous accent address. And i feel like and they also. I think like don't really have regard for our rules. Like our set of roles as humans. Like i think other animals. It seems like adapt to whatever environments and regulations. We sat around them and octopuses will be like like there will be like a point like they're experimenting. Swear they're like okay. We'll see if these optimists octopuses can figure out how to pull a lever so that they get food and like to octopuses might like figure out how total ever to get food and then the third octopus put like breaks the lever fixture into their water and then like of water at. Everyone could be like. Listen i'm gonna do whatever i want and this makes me. I'm like not interested in this thing and you do is gonna make interested in it But yeah so i. What i commissioned that autism was like for me in the beginning of my life. I wanted all of the rules. I wanted to follow all the rules. I wanted to know the rules. And then i think i got to a point where i realized like the rules. Don't work like arrows. make any sense. They're all critical and they don't work. And so there's a sense of lake also not being protected by understanding of the social norms in the roy and and so not having that kind of like natural protective thing to lean on and Yeah using those skills of creativity or adaptability even though from the outside perspective it seems. Like we're not adaptive based on the norm but based on like our system were being extremely adoptive Yeah and so yeah. I just think that's a really and also there are solitary animals which can be definitely a sticker diverge a but what's interesting about that. I think they didn't experiment. And he's experiments lake again. The conflict comes in like just leave the octopus alone. And i definitely feel that but i'll just reference it because they didn't experiment were they gave octopus not with the drug of like cuddly. Whatever like social cuddly. I don't know what the struggle is. But whatever drug happens in our brain chosen oxytocin. I think that's it Yes and i think they started like cuddling with other octopuses and so they might just have social anxiety like the rest of that fact. That's really cute. So one other key circling back to temple grandin. But i found that when a little tangent those Article montgomery writes about her time with temple grandin in like why she decided to write the book and whatnot just skimmed a real quick. We can link it in the show notes and it says cyrus temple. How grateful i was the time she'd given me. She was to in quotes. You really get sad. She said to me. I think you're a little autistic yourself. I took it as a compliment. She mentioned yes. Senior series further confirmed. Something that i think too is like the emotional connection that i felt as i learned more about these like octopuses is having like an alternative intelligence that like human beings can't understand fully like if you'd like the more you learn about an octopus the more you realize like yeah we have we really cannot even imagine what it's like to think like them we can. Were both intelligent enough. That you know we can form this kind of social bond and we can recognize each other and we can kind of play games. You know like we can kind of do this sort of surface level thing but it takes a lot of sort of empathy and open-mindedness to like all the people who interact with an really love. These prices are like very open to alternative forms of consciousness and expression and like are really receptive to the patterns of behavior. That art was used to communicate Like learning a whole different language. You know of like watching the and the eyes and the arms and the body language in the squirting of the water and she starts to recognize like when an octopus squirts water because it's afraid versus playful. You know like there's so many different things you have to be attuned to you And i think. I really empathized with the octopus and the people learning about them of like I felt like i would be good friends with them. Because i take like i take that stance whenever i encounter something new. That's different from me. Because i am used to being very different you know. And so when i encounter an animal i mean it's just a well documented thing that autistic people get along better with animals with people. That's just like a flat thing. And i think it's like part of our sensory sensitivities and just our communication styles and whatever but there's a certain level of empathy that you have to have for things that are super different from you. I think if aliens ever made contacts like we need to send greta timberg out there you know like she would who could really like talk to them and figure out how to communicate with them like not like angle merkel is great but like. Don't send her. You know like send. Gotcha stick to the aliens. Because they'll figure it out octopus or somewhere. Honestly the octopus. Maybe the octopus is better emissary for than are you know like they may have methods of communication. That aliens understand better than we do. And i also really related to the octopus being a creature that most people all misunderstand and only a few people put in the work to like really learn this alternative form of emoting and communication and only a few people fully appreciate like. Oh the octopus as an intelligence and consciousness very an on par with but very different from ours and it takes a lot of openness to admit that thinking. You know 'cause like we're it's so ingrained in our education system that like humanity is the pinnacle of the earth. Yeah i i feel like that was one of the big takeaway big things just pondering thinking about reading this book as far as consciousness in like kind of what i was taught and like what is reinforced in our culture of like human superiority over all animals and Kind of denying that animals might be smarter than us in some way As smart as us in other ways and it's really it was really interesting to be challenged also should be presented with multiple people like. She's not making an argument. necessarily that octopuses have consciousness. She kinda like plays with the idea and mostly just accepts it. And so she's not like laying at a case trying to refute all your preconceived notions about what consciousness is and so i think her titles really fitting that is explanation into the wonder of consciousness like She's not setting out to like debate you but she's definitely like putting out there is really Not really novel ideas. If if you're in this world it sounds like but novel too many of us who maybe haven't spent time wondering what other consciousnesses in our world. And yeah and i feel like again. This is where i feel like are studying. Understanding is so limited with octopuses specific. I mean i think circuit example of like what consciousness even could be Because i think we like to ask like does it have consciousness does it. Not what is consciousness based on an and that can only be based on our understanding of our clients. The body itself is all possibility. And i don't think this was because like there's no there's kind of definition it feels like the whole body is like expressive and can kind of go into any like literally in any shape which means yeah almost any version of itself And yeah i just like that. What a way to live like. I know that our brain body system is like drastically different. And so you know. We'll never quite understand. And we'll never operate like an octopus. But i definitely felt like i gleaned some things from them at least with like calling in particular she my favorite octopus so it like killed me when she died but the way that she was like so playful and was just constantly he like trying to explore an shange herself and her space and the people around her and i feel like i really gleaned a lot from their sort of way of being. I'm found oddly. Inspiring makes i love. I love talking to people about octopus. Yeah so if people want to learn more. I know kelly you mentioned some stuff up. Top that laced. We're are some places what are some things to either watch or listen to you. They can learn. Yep yeah so on. Netflix is a documentary octopus teacher. And we kind of like with all of these things. We kind of talked about this but there is conflict of like this thing. I have felt with all of the octopus readings and research done. Were unlike I i really like i. Don't i feel this kind of like. I don't wanna know that. Humans experience. But i couldn't know the list like experience with an octopus without hearing without assuming it sounds silly but i'm just like oh edge. Slim experts to be an octopus. But anyway so my activists teacher is a documentary on netflix. About this man. I think he's a filmmaker and he was really burnt and he had lived by the water when he was younger in south africa. And so he went back to the water I don't remember where this where he was And and just kind of like started getting into the ocean every day and And felt the need to be really close to aquatic life at this place and Eventually met this. Octopus would come back every day and interact with this octopus and watch service octopus jillian. What would you recommend. There's a book that. I've been meaning to read that. I thought about getting for my friend on multiple occasions. It's called the hidden life of trees by keyter. Peter will laban and. It's i think a similar style where it's just exploring the experiences of trees and i'm very curious I could be very wrong about that. It might not be about trees at all but my from the back of the book and the small at the beginning that i've read. That seemed to be what it was about. And i found that very intriguing and then some other nature related things. There's a david attenborough documentary called a life on our planet on net flicks. and it's. He's a very famous. Bbc like naturalist documentarian And he talks about like the effects of climate change that he's seen over the course of his life in like what we should be doing to combat and then of course the greta documentary on hulu about greta. Tandberg i'm kaylin. I watched it multiple times and cried a lot and just since we were talking about the intersection of like nature and autism. I think she is an excellent example without us. So i'm excited to take off your expectations because i Yeah i'm kind of new to this this kind of book. I would recommend the new england. Aquarium has a wonderful youtube channel. And you can actually see bill like i soon as i finish the book like i couldn't go to bed. I had to like jump on a bunch of optimists videos and at in it you'll get to like meet bill. A new. See the octopus tank that they currently have you can go back in the videos in c. Some of their previous tanks and octopuses it energy. You probably don't wanna do some watch the videos but for me like it helped put a face to the people would also like a face to octopuses And it was wonderful. Yeah that's what i would recommend sound. Susan just wrote that down. Go hang out with the friends that you just made. After reading this book okay so taking a turn from octopuses or we could stay with them to at the university. Says we like to talk about things. Like currently obsessed with sony things bringing joy it could be yourself carriage rolls or podcast. You can't stop listening to or that food. You ate all last week What you currently obsessed with kayla. okay So i did just watch this kind of goes back into our last section. But i did just watch the documentary. Fantastic fungi And that's a such a documentary And you know kind of along the lines of like possibly neuro divergent people and nature and I think just it's exhibits. How integral guy is to all of our natural systems and Kinda like the beginnings and endings of lights and highly recommend that one and then also. I've just been cooking a ton. I'm looking for jobs at the moment trying to figure out this. Whole pandemic life Ideally moving to tune his spot. But in the meantime i've just been like okay. What can i cook to kind of. Feel good in the moment of time so i just made a making. I made last night. And i had leftover sauce making them again tonight. A making sweet potato tater tots with this like tomato apple cider sauce essential in my god I'm thinking like the bag of sweet potato. I hired in orchestra right now on the mike due to do we just take talk is there is a pretty easy to yeah we just. I mean we've spent the last week and a half eating potatoes so why not do it anymore. Yeah okay for me. I have a few. I had to narrow it down. Because i had a list of like seven things and i was like juliet. Mccoy's it in so here. Are julius top picks. So the first one is i when i want to be in my feels i read jon greenberg so his most recent one turtles all the way down definitely made me cry because of the friendship and just it's about a friend with very severe anxiety. That's the main character and her best friend who's like kind of wacky and super cool and outgoing and there's a mystery and a love story but it's mostly about the friendship and it's amazing and i cried a lot Something victorian i re watched very recently. It's one of my favorite stand specials of all time. It's called my favorite shapes by julio torres. I can't i could recite this special to you. I've watched so many times but it brought us so much joy and so. I just wanted to recommend it again because like it's incredible we'd literally we're flipping through things and it was like thanksgiving weekend and it was just the two of us. We realized we just need to feel like laugh and we tried a different. We'll try something new and different special. Just wasn't really are flavor comedy and we're like no no no watching shapes again. It's like his brand of humor is like so particular and the so wonderful. I can't. I can't describe it to you. Just you have to watch it. A just the amount to which he is himself is wonderful like unbridled. Julio torres like no one told him no you know and it's it's amazing the album that's been giving me life recently is called a chilombo by j eiko and it's beautiful r. n. b. came out in march and i finally started listening to it just now and it's wonderful and then My new favorite narrative podcast is called. We fix space junk. And it's like you know uh space drama. Because of course. Everything recommended space drama. And it's so good. That production is amazing. Like sound effects. Tartu do space sound effects but they did very good job. So i'm really enjoying that as well. So my number one is Daisy johnson the six by taylor jenkins read. I have not read a book that fast in long time is definitely one of those stayed up way. Too late The on a work night and a or weekday night. It's just really good. It's am fictional book but is written as interview transcripts with a from that nineteen seventies rock era in california. And it's just it's kind of crazy and is a little all over the place like the characters Lynn lives that. I don't live. But they rockstars and seventies by just the pacing. Storytelling is is absolutely wonderful There's a good book escape. Like i'm just going to be this all night. Yeah i'm looking at different world. I listen to what are the same podcasts fees. I'm like a uber fan. By some recent episodes of podcasts. I plugged before switched on pop episode. On what they call the cyndi lauper conspiracy had sam sanders From npr's it's feminist as a guest and it's really interesting. Like i'd never thought i would wanna listen to the hour of dissecting cindy lauper and mike synthesizers like the history of eighties since sound like but it was really fascinating Super great and then self helpless in other podcasts. I love that episode. Recently called impact teachers little talk about teachers that they like impact negatively impacted them positively dislike. Set me back. Especially the positive says that way. Back to all the fields of all the teachers meaningful in my life. And i think i need to read some cards some facebook messages lake. It was a kind of a good feel good reflection. Yeah alright thank you so much. Calif adjoining this episode. This is really fun talking with you at. Thank you so much for listening. If you like to check out any of the recommendations we gave as well as links to other things you mentioned through the episode. You can find us with jd. Dot com abbas other. Show notes. There you can also follow along to see what we're reading next and Catch some cool. Means than julia leaves in our stories on instagram at the club with. Jv big thank you to greg. Berg are sound engineer. Making it sound good and creating all original music another big thing. He took our federal in design thinking so much for listening. We'll catch you is under next episode happy reading.

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BGN 248 | Patina Miller And Jay Ellis

Black Girl Nerds

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BGN 248 | Patina Miller And Jay Ellis

"You're listening to the black girl nerds. Podcast seven eight hundred girls at the end. The world and every from sleazy zonta rise to space. We make colonize target gave. The actors were black benedict benedict. Brunner's thanks for tuning into this episode of the black girl nerds podcast. My name is jamie and this episode is hosted by both ryan and gendre in this episode. We bring to you to offend tastic segments in our first segment. We are proud to welcome you. Patina miller this amazing actress appears in power book three raising canaan. She's in the latest chapter of the stars power saga powerbook three raising canaan as raquel thomas the fierce in compelling mother of the nefarious canaan. Who as you know was portrayed by curtis fifty cent jackson in the original series. So we're excited to talk to her about her role in that series that is currently now playing on stars and and our second interview. We welcome actor j. l. s. You know him best on the. Hbo series insecure well. Jay ellis is back with his own. Podcast series called written off under his production company. Black bar mitzvah. The show's going to spotlight creative. Writing of formerly incarcerated young writers in the la area who've been impacted in silenced by the prison system in the united states and each episode will feature a different influential creative performing their writing. The creatives include john legend easter ray yvonne orgy rental park kiki palmer and so much more. So sit back. Relax and enjoy this star. Studded episode of the black girl nerds podcast. Welcome to the bloggers. Podcast i'm your host ryan and we all know that power can be a dangerous thing right. What about what as you were. Power really means and how to fix everybody around you. Well the power universe. Y'all sickness up again year ready. We got another power spin off this powerbook three raising canaan. And y'all they brought in the momma because they was like we gotta go right to the source. You don't play your black mama club. If all about that but his three like you do not play the mommas. Aren't they know before you step in the door with the issue is and what's going on so i cannot wait to talk to my guest today. I'm talking about patina miller. She plays were killed. Thomas kane is mama aka rock when you start getting into the sand How you doing are you doing. I am so great. I'm so happy to be here so before we get into powerbook three. 'cause i'm so excited talk to you about this. I want to take it back to theater. 'cause you got this theater background so amazing okay. Twenty thirteen you get a tony war leading actress in a musical for pippin. What do you remember. Innocence to sell so weird to me because we know theaters kind of making his comeback. Now with everything that we've been going through The in the world. But what do you remember like what still sticks in your mind about that of winning tony. Yeah yeah all my god. I remember when they still so surreal. You talk about it and it's been like so many years later. I remember thinking like right before they called my name. Because i already knew what it felt like not to get it. 'cause i've been up for tony before but i was like you know what a no one feels like cannot get it. I look really good tonight. The dressing is on point. i'm here with my fiance. It's gray whatever happens is gonna be. And so jason hall does the fe and there is this pause. What felt like the longest pause of life. And when i heard that i my heart stopped. I think there's this little mean of me running up to the the podium. I was so close. I was in a gown. I hadn't even thought about it trip what what happened. I literally darted to that stage so fast so fast and just remember being so excited that like this dream that it always had came through and i didn't know how it was gonna come true but living there at that night. Being in that moment. I just i was out of myself. It was an auto body experience to be honest. So that's i remember everything from that night but if we got a moment it was holy shit. I really my dream came true. Wha- yeah can't even imagine what did you learn. I'm so curious. I what did you learn about yourself theater. I learned that i am more I'm stronger than i know. I've learned that. I love to live in a place of i challenged myself and it's allowed me to open myself up in a way and so with theater. There's not really. I can think about everything because it's fast and there's an audience and it really is dance between yourself and the audience and figuring out how that works having different audience every every night it really calls upon you to be able to do whatever work you need to do to be able to do it over and over and over again. Find the joy find choices. You can't make a stale so it was exciting to try to push myself every night to to do something different. Can you imagine that live. Audience like yeah. That's that's crazy. There's gotta be a lot But i'm going to ask you though to kind of round off the theater questions here for black women like i can only think of one when it comes to like theater like you know it's not that much representation that has always shown to us about beater. And sometimes you're watching a movie or something like that and you'll notice and you're like oh well there in theater entre mcdonald comes to my mind. You know somebody's right but you don't always have like. I wish i just wish i could name off like everybody. You know like five people at least but it doesn't have come up. It doesn't always come up. And that's the thing that i hope continues to shift in theater. Is that that same. Sort of visibility we talk about. Tv and film and representation. I it is continuing to starting to make. Its way into the theater world but i will be honest with you when you think about like stars of the theater and black women there are some. There aren't as well known but if you're black and you theater you know all of them right so like when i graduated from school i had billy porter as a mentor of mine. And he was the one who told me about arjun. Mcdonald's so i had all of my mentors kind of putting me on to the heavyweights of black fraud way. Because they weren't who exist they don't get to make that transition into tv and film as easily as others. Might now. i think it is very hard. Sometimes or a stage actors to make the transition as out quickly and swiftly is Other genres like you have singers. Who can come to broadway. You have a lot on tv actors. Who will do a stance on broadway. But broadway broadway is tough and i gotta tell you. I am so proud to be a part of that. Black broadway's s. that's what we call it is. My hope is as we continue to shift and things start to people start to get opportunities whether that is hiring. Black creatives black directors like and actually giving them the opportunity to tell their story to create these wonderful stories. Dan put on broadway. You will find so much talent. 'cause there's so much black talent and You know just people of color not just black. That are waiting for their opportunity waiting to see themselves on stage. Two men have that passionate fire. You know have something to look up to so for me. It was audra mcdonald. Heather headley Adrian lennox jennifer holliday. There are some of them is just. We have to keep working right. And what would your number one like t be for black women women of color trying to get into theater. I my latte. Look my black. Mike way am i. Am i really like right. I think it's surrounding yourself with other with other actors and actresses not. You don't have to have your whole network doesn't have to be with. People of color has to really continue to push and try to get into those doors. Whether at is in your community. Not just broadway There's community theater. Beer is looking. Look in the paper and see if there's casting calls for different things you can. it's just. We have to do a lot of the work right because nobody is that a jew of forest we have to consciously always make the effort to to put ourselves in the conversation and we always have to work harder than anyone else you know right right exactly quack women. Come on. we have to work even harder. So i would say to find those like i have daily puertas not everyone has access to a billy porter cuts those people that you admire and reach out. Ask questions whether that is over social media or something you know people actors do love when people send the messages and ask about the business. I have young performers. Asked me all the time to give them tips. How to get started mile is always. If you wanna be in the theater it is not a game for just kind of wanting to Arm yourself with the craft knows what you're doing so that when you get that opportunity you're ready right. Y'all listen Bettina miller is just telling you ought to send her a message. I mean oh aggravated by asking me but ask me. Yeah you've your resources absolutely yes. We can a resource just like black women doing thing. We gotta talk about killed. Thomas power plants now. Are you ready to be in the grocery store cereal and somebody calls you rock like. Are you ready for the auto home i am. Yeah i am i am. She's everything i mean. It has been a joy it is gonna choi to bring her to life. Let me tell you that. I don't think anyone realizes what's about to happen. Dayna what i'm telling you. Are you ready to be a net grocery store. I'm telling you right now because it happens and his power on nobody affected just walking down the somebody's wrong and you're like wait a minute. I'll put down the street sir. I'm ready for it as long as they're not crazy right exactly you don't be crazy about you. Don't be crazy about it but she not ready. Don't get crazy about it right right so tell me. So what like what made you sign up of an issue just like a bad ass but like what else was it about that. She wanted to sign up to play. Raquel thomas what what i loved about reichheld thomas is. She is unlike anything that you have ever seen. In my opinion a black woman gets portrayed on screen not only. Is she strong. Because i think it's very easy. I think that's the one thing about black women we all it's easy for Portray strong women. But what i also loved about was that there are very she's multidimensional. She doesn't just play on how strong she is. She plays on all of the different things that she has. She's very vulnerable she's loving. she's a dreamer She's messy. You know she gets to be all of these things that we don't really get to be in that we don't really get to see as an audience. Black be on. I also love that. She is a mama bear to her son and was and will stop at nothing to protect him should also carrying the weight of everyone else on her older. She was so provider of family. And for me. That is something that i can identify with. Not the sell but other black women always having to carry the load right kerry people's load but she is so passionate and she is such a go-getter she does not have any time Bullshit i say. I think we're not place working not hold my tongue. Yeah you watch alley okay. Hello if she doesn't suffer fools us she's not afraid to get down and dirty and do what she needs to do And she's not afraid of any. Do fast the one thing that i love about her. I love that you know. We've seen how men handle power but you haven't seen in this universe is how woman handles that power while also being the mother to a fifteen year old. Yeah and what that is you know Yeah and i love the trailer line when she's like i'm not getting on my knees for you or any man. I was like all right there. You go for powerbook three. that's it. that's great. That's the theme right there. That's like if i had one iconic lying there. I think they're going to be a lot of tips. That's one of my favorite. Is you know. I'm not getting on my knees for you. Anybody and she marines it noman. That's a perfect l'africain is mom because you have to like. Is it a requirement that you have to go back and kind of look at the i may be the mythology innocence of canaan and what it represents the power. I think like for me. Because i am a fan from the very beginning. I think that you don't need. I didn't have to go back. 'cause fifties character canaan canaan was such a standout character conic because he was so ruthless at all of these things friend. You really for me. The joy is trying to figure out like nobody starts off like that like he didn't start off who everyone knows the power university of being and i think going back into his story figuring out what are the things that made him the way that he ultimately became and we know his demise already and so for me it was interesting to go back in time and to see what his home life was in what what because he had a great home. Life as you'll see in In this In the first episode. Not gonna give spoilers away but he has a mom loves him very much He has a very tight knit family. And they're all about family in. So i was interested in the dynamics of family and and relationships and end ripping the whole power thing of it all so that is what i think is interesting about it. I didn't really have to go back and like really do a deep dive because this world that we're starting world of our own. It's a prequel. You don't packed with seen The power series or goes to sit back enjoy this and started with fresh eyes because you started the very beginning right and what was it like working with mci occurred as you guys have such a cool chemistry that i can't wait for people. Thank you like. It's really like you makes you flash back to talk to your mommy. You like okay. Am i going to get through the because she's probably gonna take now but you know some of the stuff that's happening and it's just so what was that like. We're with him. Well i i'll say i read dislike tang. I feel like my mom has been with me. Like i feel like raquel is every black palmer i. That's what i heard a lot of these. You know what. I mean like the way did she is with 'em to there's this balance of like being loving with him but also calling him now unshipped you know and and that's what i love about her. And so when i first met mci it was for his screen test and they were like. Hey listen this guy who were thinking of for to play this role. Because i didn't know it was for. And i didn't know what the project actually was until after i got it so They were giving you all kinda like your aims and stuff and so we got like this the that we have in line to play canaan you gonna come out. They sent me like seven pages decides to really crazy important scenes. And i was like we'll still drive. Memorize it am i. I've already had my test. Should i memorize it. Should i not so. It's like you know what i want to go in with him. I want all both of us to be able to play off each other and kind of get a taste of it. Is him what we'll be joined together. Memorized it all the way. There we get there we get on the row. Not only is the executive producer there. The writer a fifty cent rating on fifty set. He comes in there. We have a camera our face. And i was like oh this is this is oh it is him so let me. We're just gonna play. We're gonna play. This is the guy they want to do this. We're gonna play. And so they go to take him and then he's like you're going to be on screen while i was like okay. Well let's go. I looked at him house. Like here. we honey and we did one of you saw the first episode. It's one of the more intense scenes it was like right off the bat less jump into that scene and we went for it and he just. We worked so well together. We were constantly playing with one another figuring things out and by the end of it. I was exhausted because we really gave ourselves to it. And i knew then and bear that okay. This is the this is the guy. This is the guys that play my son at. We're gonna do some relief. Antastic work together. Because we're both in it and we'll bowl a portable one another and it's gonna be fun. Yeah i can't even. I can't imagine can't believe that she got started with that scene. I'm not saying anything. You see this episode. I can't believe sarwono one wonder you guys have chemistry going forward. Because that's very proud. Didn't even know him all of his face. Just doing the most cyst talking about doing the most. But i like this part about the show. I think it's really cool. Can you talk about the lingo here. Because there's some where you guys are talking. We're like i. i was trying to take milk. 'cause i'm like am i the only loss because i don't understand what was happening at first. And then you realize in this world. There's a certain you have to talk. Yes there was a mess. It out five percenters. Though that was like the whole thing at the end so rock khanna took it upon their. They're obviously in this operation. And so there's a lot of different lingual that they use so that people know what they're talking about when they talk about their job and they have a way with sort of talking about things especially love to talk in code when they talk around canaan as well but they don't realize that canaan is very smart and he is around. He's been around a lot and you know he's smart as they are. So he's catching on to the lingo. So they adopted it. I think. I think i'm saying it was a five percent of the whole thing like they have their own legal. This is kind of adapted And they use it do business. It's really cool. When you gotta see this. This will. Because i didn't know that i thought it was me trip and i was like. What are they me when i when i first got it i i was like what are we doing. What is this like. And then i was like really cool then. When i did my my research on like oh okay yup ari go very smart people very smart talk in the co. 'cause you know that's how you know you go to japan whenever you just kinda like develop your own way of just doing the day yet. It was really built. And then like speaking to look of cannabis so smart. He gives us from his mom. Because i live how. She teaches him certain lessons and she uses constellations. I thought that was really as well. Because you a certain amount. Will you find out you know. Exactly what world. You're an which is probably not hard to guess 'cause we are in power but you get an intelligence which you shouldn't judge people on what you think that in this world and i love house. We'll listen. I'm gonna bring out the science because this is what i was passionate about in school. Yeah yeah yeah. I love that she constantly is on a quest like what i love about. Raquel is that she wants desperately for him to not do what she's doing. You know she. She continues to try to push. Push him in this way. Push him at this other way. You're my son. I want this world for you. You could go to college. You can be a head hunter. What any mother would want for their child. That's what rock wants. Her child differences inferences. She happens to beat in a business. That doesn't quite line up with you know. But that's the whole. That's the part of her. That i love is because she's constantly battling that wanting to be this. Ceo this power woman doing her thing here on business but also wanting to show him the right way to go because of the end of the day. I don't think this is like she had. If we were in other world in a different time raquel would be doing what she's doing. But this is the world that we live in. It's it's what's been presented to her and this is how she's gonna move finessed and she's gonna make her money and she's gonna to build that she wants right makes that yet does it definitely does unless speaking of building a dream job. Listen rock not fashion. Let me just tell you right now. She whatever businesses that. We're not saying right now. She's doing it. Listen we talking about drake a queen's nineteen ninety-one talk about this faster like what can you give a and and they're to give some away because he gives us a message gotta get no because you've seen the you the there's just one outfit. I mean. listen. Obviously once. I think people are gonna love her passionate. I tend to think that. I have myself and maybe unique. Maybe they'll get her this some of the best wardrobe rock unique. Have these very flashy power kind of of outfits for me. It may be the vintage where i'm wearing a lot of vintage ally of edge for saatchi. Rock has great taste and she knows do she she does. She's got a look a certain way. And it's the way that she feels good and when she can put on a catsuits and feel good about it you know throw on her. She can really like seize. The day is as corny as it is. It's like what i'm putting on my armor and ready to go to war and a moluccan. Yes she's got like the runway while what she puts it on. I love it. she's nineties. Catwalk is the nineties caterwauling. As in you know like. I can't believe i'm talking to right now because you transform so much on the screen. Y'all got gotta just see. I've gotta do see it because it's so cool. I'm so happy. You say that. Honestly i think though yeah go ahead give it a little bit here. Might have been a signal patina. Let me know. Celia me and we'll just edit it in seve festival. See amy. you can't hear me out strapped out here now. I could tell you dropped out every now. Connect texas may be. I think she's reconnecting her audio okay. I'm here. I'm here just really just when it was getting good. You're you're good. We'll just we'll just pick up off the fastest else. You wanted to add about the fashion. I'll i will just to. It really is sort of like. You're being transported back to the nineties for me. It doesn't feel like yeah. It is a period piece. But sometimes when you see these shows that go back in time they look at costumes. This is so authentic to the time our creative team. Frank lemmings today you know. They really did such an amazing job with every character giving their character. Specificity with with you know the the the the the wardrobe and you know rocks open unique toward everybody's so different really get a feel for where we are the time. And it just feels great and super. Yeah i love. And i can't wait. I can't wait for them. To see nineties catwalk. It's going to the. I can't i can't wait for green. Can i just say what they so once that you saw. Do you gave me these. Like i had there were high boots. Fresh fresh fresh the hybrids. I warned them a little bit. And outside on the hill down a hill looking guy and literally. It took everything from all of my training. You that cool it up. What we're raquel. Do you know what she's who are not a trip. I'm not going to all these carriers army. I got boss this shit up. It was corona. And i mean cheese dip crazy with really got that's commitment. Y'all really got to watch the ask. Abatement gone for a bookworm. Yeah right we're gonna win. Stars you guys. July eighteenth today to go check it out. Go check it out on sleaze. That's it get out. Yes get the app. 'cause y'all will need it. Let me tell you. Because i'm already ready. I'm ready for these for these drops. I keep journey going and look. I'm about to wrap it here. 'cause y'all know i trying to get in trouble. I'm not trying to get into line. China revealing things. I'm the move on to the next topic reputation. A i wanna ask you about your fitness your wellness because you getting fit. I've seen it on channel sean. Obviously you and they're working out. I wanna know what's the cheek meal. What's the fit meal like what what you have is like your snack. Maybe say and what you cheat meal. Okay my She said what is my fit meal. Well i do. Yeah what's up babes. Meal are kinda ridiculous so by signals are oneal with berries in the morning a protein. I don't eat meat. I don't eat meat. I do fish and veggies. It's usually like a fish vegetable with a car is very clean and then my she is definitely pizza. Oh yeah yeah. That's good what you got on a pizza hut. Oc nasty now. You're going in okay. So what. I have our pizza mozzarella cheese. Cheese doesn't like me but it's a cheap and we just we prepare we prepare for the worst you go and throw on a lot of hula and tomato sauce very basic very basic but like i love pizza. One thing about it. I'm never going to like not of that in my life. I just work out. I just do the work to do. So but i can't have. Yeah that's always. That's my thing like i just have to stay working out because i'm not gonna sit down on stuff. I need to go down on my. I eat sweets and stuff. And i just got moving. I can let myself. But it ain't gonna work. Here's the thing the thing is. It's like i found because i been in health and wellness for ten years. I found when you try to cut in say absolutely not to everything. It literally is just not doable. So i found is if i can be really good or be as good as i can be for a couple of days to a week and then on the weekend when i'm a little bit more dangerously as i'd like to say it's okay because i know that on monday i'm gonna reset so like every day is a is a good day to kind of make a good choice. If if you fall off then you just pick up the next day so then a rules is just stick to it and figure out a way to kind of like do what you need to do so for me. I gotta have my treadmill in. I work my ass off. And i eat well. So that i can indulge. Yes i said. We're talking to you way back when i first started because i was just like. Oh you want me to cut out this. Donate you could out at work. I just gotta find it and who got me now. I'm moving am now. Yes yes but not aggravate you. I'm not gonna take because you're not getting paid. It'd be the fitness coach. You know you can't do too much. You can't be too much hops all playing you bother me out here but so. Yes a tina. 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I think of all the great writers that we've had a seat had an opportunity to enjoy from digging pot leah to a side of chicago all of these people who have that common thread that they might have spent some time in the legal system and produced some pretty epic work. So i wanted to know. I was the jumping point. Jumping off point for you and walter to create this and bring this to life. You know i. I got introduced to this organization. Called incite outriders About three or four years ago now in los angeles and they teach creative writing classes inside the juvenile halls and some adult facilities throughout la but throughout the state of california and armor going in for the first time and microdosing partner air bergman from production company. He actually teaches on saturdays. He teaches in these classes and he begged me to go and he was like yo. The kids are all go. No you from game Bt all blue like you gotta come like their their minds. so i ended up going in and he used this prompt from kendrick lamar damn album. This song called. I was talking about all the. There's there's a point in the record where he talks about all the things he knows. I know pain on. Glory and cox. I know death all these different things in so He talks about all the Intellectual kenema Things he knows as well in the song. So airing use that as a prop to get the the four five six guys who were in class that day to write about the things that they know it. He used his prompt of like you know. Would people see you from the outside. They look at us when a dac. You're a judge sees you. They see you as a case number. They see you as problem like they don't know all things that you know how smart yard in all things in life experience. Has i want you to write about writer. Look off to right the prog fifteen twenty minutes later each one of the kids by wants the ends of the pieces in ages standing so tall and socially you can literally see the pride in mike Voice is when they realized how smart they were in all the things that they knew. Not only that some other rooted in iraq some rotated high of short story like they all wrote a different way. It was just such a powerful powerful in like inspiring moment for me to realize like how powerful words are in how powerful writing is in how powerful it is like us in our own ways to express ourselves you know we started thinking about like these folks who people think about. They expected. they have talent. They don't expect that they're you know. Great writers they only spec that they know how to Communicate you know. Express their feelings and thoughts in their life experiences in so we were like. How can we put those voices out in world on big platform in a stage in. That's kinda how it really all started in for their work with lemonade. Work with justin stephanie. Over in lebanon media before we talked we pitched him the podcast Air we brought walter. Who i met on a general meeting mike months earlier and i was like. Oh i love this dude. Be his best friend. One day unique to know andy. We slowly started putting together pocket. What's fascinating about this with Young people who are coming into a talent oftentimes they're afraid to share do with low self esteem or any other issues. How what part is that taking place in kind of preparing them for the world to hear their story and just kind of aiding them with the the self esteem and the worthiness piece of it. They are deserving to share. Their gifts with a grander scale. Yet you know it is interesting because so the folks that we worked with for this season most of them have either written. We have. i'll w ran. The organization has like the ends of the house. So folks who are in have a lot of them have written in In classes during mike some free hours they give throughout the week and the folks who were on the house come on thursday night writing circle. And so it's it's something that like you. We see them do quite often in not so much. Were there like You know professional speakers professional riders anyway but writing a piece in standing of reate expressing themselves is something that you know when when folks inter organization honest to your point. There's a lot of 'vulnerability there's a lot of things they don't wanna share they don't wanna talk about. I think they see. There's a community of folks who have gone through a lot of similar experiences in bear weeded. They start to open up in a start to feel good about it and you know. They're proud of their writing too. Because you know they don't take it lightly like a truly enjoy it in take it seriously and our You know find inspiration in their world to write out to talk about. So i think you don't we we we get folks to that kind of Higher self-esteem Spot in allies. I think. I don't want to say quickly but i think this process definitely helps them get their in house kind of expressed themselves in that way. I noticed in the information that i had that randall park was going to be In the premiere episode. And i've enjoyed him in his comedic abilities and wanna vision and i enjoyed him on young rock and he has his wonderful kind of comedic timing. So what is the tenor of some of the participants in the in this season are they all comedy and tragedy are so close together. They're know just a real fine line. What is the tenor of the participants. This season harvey ever. Yeah we ever really range as far as you know. Talent in our readers go. It's everyone from jesse williams John legend suray. Kiki palmer daschel longo more sue black. Julio torres Daniel ramirez who was just in a falcon in winter soldier. He's the top gun with me You don't kerama from like it is a wide range of folks so you know one of the things that we wanted to be really specific about is like a week if folks we didn't want folks to feel like they had to write about trump. We all know pain stories in you. We know that our folks have been through some some tough times but we didn't want them to feel like that was something that they had to focus on. If that's something they wanted to write about. Clearly we left that to them but you know we by opening that up that gave our writers you know freedom to write about whatever they wanted to write about. We said right from heart. That was the loose kind approximately gave in so they were kind of able to go out and some had fun and some were little serious in some talked about their past with their hopes and dreams. Were you know winner out How they whole writing Lives talked about what they were feeling and going through when they were in in. What got them there To really is a big range and all of our readers did a really amazing job of like wanting to really honor and respect in a lift the writers and their stories to which i think was is amazing because all of these folks urge you know still liberties like a beijing. Creators writers outright absolutely us spoke of how you were inspired. When you heard the kind of the idea for this after reading some of these stories how have they enriched you personally. I mean every day like inspire like i feel like i've been fortunate to work on a couple of really great projects. My life insecure being one of them. The game top gun. Mrs america like i've been fortunate to have really great writing as an actor. It'd be able to show up to work every day in Scripted be super proud of the words that that was ultimately sending in these characters. That i got to kind of be a part of creating even still like reading a lot of the writing from our riders written off. I still found myself over. Still a whole 'nother level to writing. There's a whole nother death to riding. There's you know. There is no reason why any of our writers could not be the next great novelists right of their generation. There's no reason as you bet. He can't know their aides in the same way. You know we know so. Many other great offers names. It's just yeah. I mean i just want myself. Mandates fired a raid. Really honestly just want to give them an opportunity to to follow whatever their dreams. Are you know whatever writing does for them like. I just want to be a part of helping them get there and give that as they as. They further their their abilities in poor emotions and thoughts and things out to the paper. What if something. They deride irs. Is there something that they wanna know something that they ask commonly advice if they ask for often. What type of with they're asking for feedback. How that process is easy for them do they. What type of questions do they have with. It's been your experience with them. I mean nobody is really interesting. You know. I think the biggest feedback is always how long how how many words we want to work to and we really just told them play link within a three day range kind of just because of the podcast medium in because we were having folks read these pieces we want him to be able to remember the whole peace as as we been walter the to the conversation with the writers but you know as far as like other questions i mean. I don't know we. We really don't put those parameters on them you know. I think we really give them opportunity like rain. Just be free like free right in and and talk about whatever they wanna talk about. I think link is probably the thing that they always come back with Or there's a specific format right like if it needs to be short story or haiku or some other type some other a format of poetry lake. Mail come back and ask things like that but outside of that. They're they're they. Don't do that thing and we don't get away. You know we just Were there to help whatever they need rid. Are you guys have plans of. Maybe this being a pilot and going into other other places other states in offering other writers who are incarcerated opportunity to participate in a project like this. How big do you want this to be. How do you envision it. The the dream is that were able to continue to work with is w obviously in the state of california does other organizations were open to working with other organizations as well. But you know we've talked about season to either be in chicago or new york We definitely want to travel around. You know there's a lot of untapped talent and potential and voices and just like creatives and storytellers who are either currently sitting in our incarceration system or recently been released and you know we want to give them an opportunity to have their voices heard by the world and you know hopefully send them down a path of of a beautiful writing career with they want or if not been discussed this one piece out they got something off the jessica got to talk about whatever they wanted to talk about the world the here in their fulfilled in that way as well so we definitely wanna make sure we traveled around. The country talked folks from over. And lastly with all this star power that going to be performing this for them do they know who they are assigned to Before is this is one of my favorite parts of the podcast in. I think we got a lot of reactions in the actual episode which is great but like none of the writers knew that someone was going to be rebuilt even nelson. Who's going to be peace. They just knew they were writing a piece. They had no idea what we were doing on the other side so i was reaching out texting. Call in literally all offering everybody. Who's on the podcast for the most part and was like yo got this beautiful thing. I think you'll be amazed. Amazing it gut is not not a ton of your time. But i think what you hear. You're gonna wanted to be more so than i sent. Everyone's pieces out to all of our talent oliver slips and then when we when walter our hosts actually i in the room with the rioters to interview them. He played the celeb- reading the piece. All of them lost is really funny. This'll people my favorite reactions. Do is a two episode has come a little bit later. This named taylor Inch he's array. Read her piece in which she heard isa's voice she scored raid at the top of her lungs. Like literally lost it. And i think that was so amazing. Jimmy woo Who's episode is out today with randall. Park reading his piece. He losted candidates when when she heard kiki in kiki's episode is also out today kansas. She also lost at that. That is one of my favorite parts of the podcast here. People's reactions vague immediately. Recognize these voices. I feel. I feel like everybody's voice is recognized by but but literally every single person knew who was the minute they heard the voice in if they couldn't quite place the middle name was said they were like of her. I delete kerala's amazing Daddy's remains in our or tasha or jessie williams. Whoever it is they literally lost it so that was really fun is hoping that is beautiful. I probably would cry. If someone just popped up like east right just popped up on site in. Started reading something i wrote. That is really beautiful. Badges i i gotta tell you i literally jimmy lose episode. Premieres today with randall. Park Literally since the text messages warning or via text message an our resistance our twelve minutes ago and he literally said. I woke up at five. Am today for zion. If out muscles tears while listening to the podcast. I was moved to my core. Thank you so much for putting your heart's into this imprint. Him out art and like that to me is like why would we do this. That is every ounce of legwork from from my blackbox fatigue from production team to lemonade. Who is such amazing partner to walter our hoax like that's why we do it just for reactions moments like that so that is also i am gonna go dig into these now this random park. I love random. Park is so funny. And i enjoy him very much. Thank you jay for your time. I know our audience will be very interested and excited to hear about. This is a wonderful undertaking. That you've participated it and just thank you so much for your time talking about it. Yes thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you you for giving us a very very great. Thank my pleasure. Take care doubt the black girl. Podcast is produced by jamie broad nats. 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152: John Cameron Mitchell! (Encore)

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152: John Cameron Mitchell! (Encore)

"Hey there if you would like ad free early versions of these episodes as well as bonus episodes movie club episodes in lots more head over to patriot. Dot com slash. Creggan friends. my great good friends will sue greg. You will reagan. Cute little house airbnb. I picked it because of the couch because they usually tape it an l. shape couch at home and i was just looking for a good space for this and so it really worked out that. It's quiet almost all the time. Isn't it good. The views nice too. Because i didn't want the reflection off the window his quiet. It's really quiet. Yeah and his right around the corner from that conversant with new york so it was nice to like right in the heart of things. Is it reasonable. And it's like night it could be. It could be worse. I should get the link for this because people are always looking them. I'll send you the link. Yeah i know. I was gonna book again for jason's coming back to to pride at the end of june. Always doing a full show i think. So yeah thirtieth. He's also doing john waters birthday. Show in detroit. And i'm on the fence. I want to go to a pet. It's gonna work out schedule wise. When is the twenty seventh and twenty eighth. Come doing three shows here. Oh you are townhall. Twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine for pride. He's doing the water this month and ride and i was thinking of that too. I might come for that. I'd love to see that show. I have a little intro for john. Oh you ready for a very special episode of whimsically volatile in which we welcome actor a writer director singer songwriter. Dj and the second whimsically volatile guests who have appeared on macgyver. Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls whether you like it or not. I'm pleased to present to you. Mr john cameron mitchell. Welcome thanks for government. wait a minute. Who is the other macgyver. Michael bar to bar. I was on our show another show with him to really which one it was. I think head of the class odd. I didn't realize michael was on that. But he's been on every tv. We i mean he's actually very funny though he was this sort of rockstar. That never quite made it mutton but played the rockstar brilliantly. Right right exactly now did he play a rockstar on head of the class. Because i have to find that episode then because he's definitely one of my favorite characters. He was the russell brand of his time. Oh yeah that's very true. And he had a very poignant story to share with. Yeah a lot of people who weren't familiar with the stuff. Removed moved by his insights and philosophy. They'll send you the episode. Actually yeah he performed a friend's birthday party Brian ray-ban in la. Oh cool. yeah song with his band. The mistakes was the first time. I got to see him live. Does he get oh he was fantastic. Yeah and he has that full on still animal presents. Yeah hopefully. I'm going to be coming to town to see you live and the origin of show. Yeah we're doing that as a slow motion were around the world A couple of shows here and there but it's been blasted it basically we. Just tell the story of the making of head vocal and and I have an amazing costume by erik bergman. But it's a crass plea for money from my mom to raise money for for her alzheimer's care. Yeah and it did to an extent but you know doing a tours expensive and sure a lot of people around and so it really was just kind of paid my rent for a while. But i love it so much and it's been fun to kind of like the beastie boys are doing. They're they're making of sharia lately and it's funny. It's like we're all coming like the old folks tell stories when now we're in the era to where everyone wants to know the behind the scenes even more so when it was like. Dvd extras and everything. Yeah podcasts are the noon. Dvd extras they really are. Yeah there's i mean. We do a movie club for our patriot on subscribers. Yeah and we're going to do hedwig at some point with the right. Guess to for patriot. We have subscribers who pay like in addition to the regular episodes pay their five seven or ten dollars a month for bonus episodes the other tier is bonus plus listener questions and intend gets them all of that plus movie club just did one and rocky horror picture show actually found someone who had never seen it or heard of it before so we were stunned and all the faith people were excited. Ask questions to true rocky. We're going to do all that jazz. Actually if we're ever in all that jazz one of my top ten. If it ever worked out i'd love to have you on all the movie club for all tasks that is one of your favorite movies. Yes in fact. I was looking at the. You know the fossey. Tv show pas a pilot The other night with someone who didn't know anything about fostering and we're watching it and i'm like it was very good but i was like he didn't really know who this was so i stopped the whole power in played his whole bits of his whole history and including the whole last fifteen minutes of all that jazz which is brilliant and which kind of informs this peace anthem. That's what i felt as well also knowing from watching a lot of the documentary stuff. What's the name of the documentary on the blu ray. The upcoming blu. Ray release of hedwig and the angry inch whether you like it or not. Okay right right. Yeah criterion criterion. Yeah can't get better than that such a compliment. I bet the transfer looks amazing. Really does we got to revisit and fix some things that were problems in the past things which is always irritated you. Every time you saw fabulous photography of frank geeta marco co. Yeah on film film. what kind of film. It's a different stock that you guys used. We used different stock but it was. You know it was. It was the stock of the moment and thirty five. but we did stuff in in process host. Get a little more seventies looking. And i shot a short bus on sixteen. Which was my last film on film. That's remarkable because rabbit hole. Looks so great. I mean. I can't tell the difference. See the red camera but was forced into using digital but frank did a good job and he also did not talk to how parties which also looks amazing too. Yeah very distinctive. Yeah we did a special thing where we you know. The big digital frame is so sharp. That is almost too much information. Shirk americans think more is better writing and what we did was. We framed the shot for a kind of doughnut hole of the frames that we basically are blowing up at detail right around digital frame which softens things and then we added some digital green called live grain and just gave it a subtler in a so e everything now is so high def. It's strange exit when he first sent four k. tv and see games rewards or some shares grave. I don't wanna know all of that right. Relive about yeah. I don't need bessie the pores and now your latest project. Anthem is a ten part series designed for the ear of gun so low deaf visually that i've gone blind. There's pictures there. You just can't see them yet. There is a joy though. I think podcasts of course are ascendant now. Certainly we were trying to figure out. Why and i i mean part of it is filling those times where you can't look at a screen with like driving and exercising or or commuting. But you could look at us grant. I guess. But there's a little fatigue screen fatigue So one cents is enough. Yeah and i'm sure they'll be. You know the taste network in just tasting things but it seems more calming plus. You're using your imagination. Visually while you're listening which has a calming effect and also a stimulating effect. You know masturbation used to be imagining the other friday now. It's porn for most guys in the industrialized world. Incentives four k. in four k. Again way too much information. I prefer you know my porn on on film but i i think there's an equivalent of we wanna reduce in order to to meet it halfway with our own imagination. Sure joy in that but also people sometimes listen to them while they're doing something else Ours though because it's very dense you can't you don't wanna miss a line. 'cause he loses seen the plot and so i really encourage people listen good headphones or speakers and they're only half hour to forty minutes so there there you can concentrate and My friend who inspired me to do this. has a popular podcast narrative podcast orbiting. Human circus is on. Wnyc now and i'm a voice on that he was a member of the band. A neutral makoto via jan koster so he really inspired me and many of my friends to make their narrative podcast. It's remarkable how much you can fit into it because you don't have to worry about building a set yes and you can re shoot. Did you do a lot of re cutting and re voicing did i did. I was traveling a lot last year. And i just brought my nice mike with me. No recommended by our skywalker sound mixer of various film And so i could put a blanket over my head reading my lines. And then i i could also ask glenn close and paddle upon to put a blanket over their head wherever they were. Yeah and speak into their iphone. Oh right to fix some lines. 'cause something didn't need to be as high def right exactly as a lot of the sound design is remarkable to there was actually a siren going on. And because i'm in new york. I thought it was coming from the street At the panning is amazing. And also all the incidental dialogue is so well placed that you really feel like the crowd is around you and you really feel like when glenn close plays your character's mother is talking in another room that she's in another room that's hard to do on film and even harder on this but we use a lot of Film and tv people In the editing in a mixing. So it's ten part series and it's gonna come out on luminary luminary Is a new podcast network. That is kind of pushing the medium. They want to the net flicks of podcast. So they're financing forty of their own podcast and we'll be under a subscription like seven dollars a month but you can also get free you free month's sure If he'd just wanna listen to us you know but it it's great you know. And they're bringing in great pre existing talent but new talent. You know done doing an interview. Show and conan o'brien and Trevor noah so we're there. I think they're kind of tent. Pole fictional one. Yeah you know and we just lucked out that they needed us and we needed a place because ours was quite expensive and we couldn't quite figure out how to recoup because of how dense it sir took a lot more time than we thought breath and we learn stuff that next time around because we want this to be an anthropology series moon. Other people make their musical season. That'd be amazing. yeah you know. Musicals are definitely back in vogue now as well which is helpful for audio. It's just weird that You know we're continuing a form that it was ascendant in the thirties. Radio theater through your mind at centra. Yeah people do really find a lot of comfort in podcasts. And get to rely on them. Yeah i do as well. I mean and also that's what i'm doing. Now listen in the car or do you find yourself. The i listen at all times and also a major fan howard stern. So that's always been. Yeah especially with the phone. It's great make something in the kitchen or you're going to the streets the store. He listened to a little bit of an so. You can listen in fits and starts Although it was fun. 'cause i listened to your show pretty much into goes using the whole thing. Yeah oh yeah absolutely well. I'm a big fan of yours and we met a few years ago at the. La addition of mattachine akbar. Yeah that's right. yeah. I got to play that with you. How is fine. That was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed that. And then again in new orleans and i think that was when i first heard about at them yet we were writing down there. I think when he saw you I was you know saying airbnb with my composer. Brian weller Who did some music on how to talk to girls at parties. Okay yeah. I think i could write songs. 'cause i don't play an instrument and My composer brian weller said. That's not true. I mean all kinds of my favorite people. Don't play insurer song so we're going to write twenty songs in twelve hours so that actually happened. Yeah we earn miami. Yeah gloria stefan son gave gave us a keyboard and he would write a musical setting and then he'd say go in the other room with garage man write lyrics no melody. Oh well while i write the next one. That's great so we've into the songs ended up in the piece. Wow which to You don't hear the lyrics. In this on the soundtrack koga and due to the left phnom and the one that my brother fenton sings. I exist where he says the more you heard exist. Ooh toll to really noted in this also watching hedwig recently. How much autobiographical material informs your fictional material will. It's the only safe form now appropriation. Right as the character played by justin. Vivian bond yes. Says she's my professor and she's a say our study creative writing she goes. You might as well say creative appropriation. Because if he didn't experience your character's lives you don't get to tell her story And obviously we're tweaking a little bit but we'll sure there is a little of panic in the air of Coming out of very righteous grievances and such of Really inclusion People have determined that. It's you can't really tell someone else story. But kind of obviates. The possibility imagination and empathy and to me being an actor. You know playing people that. I'm not made me a better person It made me a more empathetic person. Because you're thinking about life through different perspective. Yeah i mean. I can have a joke. Studies say that people who read fiction have more empathy than who read the news. I read that on huff po and it really moved me. There is a sense of kind of now maybe autobiographies only safe sure. Non offensive a form. Yeah with consent. Waivers trigger warnings when necessary as recommended by a possessor dr goons dr goons which was Justin's cared know had a friend named karen gun. I mispronounce it gueant. But she's a who and also a real role model for me. When i was creating hedvig. I met a justin vivian. She goes by vivid more now. Okay after i was creating vivid was hanging out in the club that we developed it. I called squeeze box. I was just overwhelmed with learning from justin. Vivian from antony now. A nominee and and Lady bunny mr. Mike and jane county sheriff these trends and drag performers. Who were my teachers and to create a character that you know i think of as more of a a drag persona than a trans person because you know. He was forced into an operation right any personal choice. It's not really a trans character. But the the art of self creation being something that could save her or at least protect her sure until she doesn't need the armor breath because armor is given to you by culture right. It's like what i call the beinart key. You are man or woman fry when we really kind of a little bit of everything sure And man woman is required by conservative or fascist cultures. Because it's controllable and also because misogyny actually dictates that if you're a feminine manual therefore less than human rights If you're masculine women you know you have a little bit higher on the but a woman is still love. So hierarchies are necessary also The binoche is necessary for capitalism. Because you can market to it right when you know what they are you can market whereas with with clearness with individuality with the complexity that we are We can't fit into niches. That are sellable to you. Know it's it's it's confusing. Do you think that's changed. Though in the last fifteen diglis of definitely gotten better for queer for gender variant for for for a lot of people. i mean. what's weird about now. Is that in some ways. We're better off than we've ever been in this world in terms of poverty and disease in economics and yet because of global warming and because of the internet new cycle we get battered by information. Sure yeah and polarized by it and facts. Become what you want them to be. You know if all news fake now than all stories are true which weirdly why think fiction is even more important now than in the past. Journalism certainly is but if there's no group acceptance of an objective fact which is certainly the case in our regime right now then. All we have is stories ryan. You know so. There's more responsibility. I mean it's it's scary. So and young people coming into a world where they're told it it's all downhill kids. Yeah because even if they were lying there was a sense of we can make the world a better place and now like i was just on a podcast where the host was saying. We shouldn't let bad news destroy possibility for joy for creation and for having kids and he was attacked by attack. A young people. Saying how dare you say we should have kids in. This says paula time. Because it's responsible to bring them into a world where it's going to be hell. How dare you. These are like kids talking right in ways. Righteousness in a way that old people used to dictate to you right. I have a piece with characters from my life but also writing characters. That are not like me. You know who's an african character is a british woman of color in his as a white gay man and my not allowed to write a occurred to revoke a straight black woman. If i'm then you might as well throw out the possibility of someone imagining themselves in someone else's shoes or something like a woman under the influence wouldn't be allowed. Yep excuse man telling one story which to me is actually an incredible Feminists document a woman by a man. Right you know his collaborator which his wife forced into what a woman is supposed to be By pierre fox character and by culture and cracking the exactly she tries so hard to be mother that she snaps or a good lover and she snaps and these insights can come from all angles. Right you know. Can i only play gay characters. Can straight guys only play streak. I'm it's complex. Jerseys idea people who have been left out of the system and should be in roy or allowed to tell their stories but there's also a sense of Play this loss in a sense of imagination that can be lost to sure. Certainly finding that balance is very important. It is very tricky. Like what's your take for instance scarlett johansson getting a lot of heat. Oh yes we'll that that made sense because there are many trans actors who can play that. Sure but is she not allowed to play something. That's closer to her. Is she not allowed to play michelle saga shit for playing a character in ghost in the shell. That's right yeah Which is not particularly japanese story in comes from japan And tilda swinton playing the ancient one in them in doctor. Strange a lot of those things are not exactly not as much lazier. Racism as economic capitalist decisions. These are people who are already stars therefore they get to do whatever they want. Which is exhausting to me. When i grew up in the world where i was an openly gay actor and i saw straight actors getting oscars because they were brave. I'm over here too but it's good that we're talking about you know equitability in an opportunity for sure. It gets bad when censorship is involved to win the laws. Become all about restriction restriction. And also your job becomes not offending as opposed to creating alternatives. Sure because it's hard to play negative you know when. I'm directing an actor. I i don't say don't 'cause that's all they think about if i say don't scratch your head in the scene at all you get very self conscious would you. What am i hans doing. And yeah when you tell someone. Don't be racist as opposed to try putting yourself in a situation you've never been where race is challenging to you try Going somewhere. You haven't been yeah physically. I think every american should be forced to live outside the country for a while. It would solve a lot of problems of provincial. You know thinking yeah yeah Those are positive acts volunteer and help to learn about trans issues. By helping out with this. You know as opposed to don't do that and don't speak the wrong way about something and without any sort of help and the other direction. Yeah to me. It can't just be that just don't it has to be added to the yes and in terms of living in other parts of the world you've lived kind of all over the world right. Yeah my my dad was in the army so mostly europe though in the us And my mom is is an emigrant from europe and there's a sense of Weirdly in the military. I may have a line in the peace where someone says. Oh you're the military's a socialist conservatives which are really is because we were given healthcare and housing. It's very racially mixed. There's a class system of officers and an enlisted but there is a sense of meritocracy And you do your job and you get taken care of which we don't actually have in this country row through we early you know the rednecks go to straighten themselves out in by enlisting in the military which is the social state. It's complete in. It's working one so that's why mccain was always a complex figure because he was a bit of a hawk but he was also reasonable in terms of of wanting to help people out and have healthcare so i take a bit of that know. Grow up very catholic too. And there's a. There's a kind of a socialism in that to puke pooling your resources and and yeah and sharing was the sort of jesus way taking care of those less fortunate and savings. Do paul's one thing. I can think of right. And then it's combined with you. Know the other saint paul who threw in misogyny and fear of sex. And sure thing is you know. Jesus didn't apparently talk about so all the guilt unfortunately is combined with the social justice in the catholic church but my aunt is a non. Oh wow this is my hero. She's in her eighties and she was environmentalist and padding. The poem plays a version of her. My aunt Sister terry is the coolest person in the world you know. And she's also johnny for you ever get married to a gentlemen. I would be offended. If you didn't let me officiate. A hungry now. And she's just the cool part of the catholic. She was hope. Everything's calmed down. They just need to calm down over there. G you like podcasts. Right and you know what maybe you wanna make a podcast. And what's the best way to make a podcast or rather the best place to start doing well anchor. If you haven't heard about anchor let me tell you about it. Because it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Oh let me explain further. 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Go check it out because this podcast is sponsored by better help. And they've arranged it so craig in listeners. Get ten percent off their first month at better help dot com slash. Craig once again. That's better h. e. l. p. dot com slash craig. Your mother is suffering alzheimer's. She's not suffering too much. She's actually very happy. What's the right way to say that. Then she just living with alzheimer's. I mean she's later stage. But she's quite in a blissful state oak. Good yeah my only experience with that was my grandmother who when i met her basically she was very in a gone. Yeah and it was sort of a troubling thing. So it's good to know that yeah. There was a very difficult years where you're losing control but both my parents had alzheimer's and My dad was a very loving guy you know. He was general and he had his own same sex feelings. Which you talked about. And i talk about on the podcast but he kept it for making him bidder or or you know rigid or or or hateful as some people do and they have to hide parts of themselves. Sure he loved my mom deeply. They stayed together till the end. And when i came out they tried to encourage me to change and encourage heterosexual com competence term. Believe my dad used rate. But i he knew i was beyond that and it was very supportive after you know in the early nineties supported gays in the military when when clinton brought it up. Good guy. He didn't talk about his own life much but he was a very beloved figure and he wanted me to be a general I had wanted nothing to do with the military. But when he saw me onset directing. Us general i do yeah. You know you're delegating. You're making people feel welcome. You're getting good work at a people. And he was my greatest defender. I read that there was a time where fox news basically led to a rift. Between you and your parents you know it happens. This happened to a lot of our families right. Sure it's interesting article recently about how murdoch's changed the world right But one of the things he did was What's the word coda. Meant to be a good conservative or a good american and people from very different points of view like my mom is an antiabortion activist. But what does that have to do with low taxes or health care. Or i mean there's connections but with people getting healthcare or education or foreign policy. You have nothing in common ripe but murdoch and the people before you know and and bill buckley brought these talking points together and said this is what it means to be. You have to not believe in global warming brive have to be against abortion and queer rights which are all very different things. sure absolutely. Yeah that you know and catholics have always been more socially liberal in terms of economics you know like new deal and health and education immigration pictures of very pro immigration and helping people who are seeking sanctuary and i was always moved by the statue of liberty as a symbol of america as opposed to. Usa won a war was about the sanctuary of the freaks. Sure and Granted we you know we're invented by religious fanatics and And conquistador entrepreneurs who you know raped a land brought slaves but at the same time it also created space for a lot of modern ideas that the world has found useful in terms of human rights technology and just idea of of newness of ingenuity of like letting over the pass to find something new so i still have hope for america. There's a certain tone that i always find running through. Your work does have some very very dark moments anthem. But yet through it. All there's an optimism. yeah. I think it's responsible to present something or work that hard on something. That doesn't have hope. Yeah we have so much evidence that That things are tough. Sure that presenting that in a new way doesn't interest me you it's like there's so much evidence of that i also don't believe in dishonesty so i think going into the dark to seek that pinpoint of of light even if it's just a pinpoint is is vital camp hint that things aren't dark. I lost a brother at at four years old. Which is why. I did rabbit hole. I mentioned it in the piece at them. And so death was always you know my handmaiden and So even as a kid. I was obsessed with samuel beckett. You know all about the end laughing into the abyss and you know to me. Art is a wonderful comfort and also is like lenses in in your gla- glasses when the art is is glasses to make the world clear. Sure and when. I see something beautiful. I feel in the world after it. I feel like i can see. I can empathize better. And i can have more hope. I feel the same way about film. Even shitty film just does something to just puts things in order for a minute. Yeah it's dumb it also can take you out of saying society. I remember once discovering. The magic of the robert redford film. Legal eagles It really serves a great purpose or any kind of middling. Romantic or comedy or drama d from the mid eighties and i was wracked with something and then i was at my parents place. They were away and it was like four in the morning i turned on. Hbo in that was like ten minutes. In i'd seen it before but only in the eighties. Twenty minutes in i'd forgotten about whatever was going on and i was like that's the key like just for some reason that like cement that for me. I was like something middling. Something had legal eagles but a harebrained plot and a performance artist played daryl. Hannah that helps meditation. It is distraction. Yeah but also. I like the ones that go places you know in in and challenge a bit more. Os through our but those are great to just floating in something. Yeah and people seem to find the same meditate equality in murder mysteries mo yan on cop shows that are about know pretty much half the shows are about the child's been killed Through people find a lot of solace. Sv you would use the procedural. Yeah exactly because you know how it's gonna go and there's a lot of walking talks. Yeah i'm in a show called shrill that is i really love Sadie brian chest during eighty bryant as a fat girl in the city and i'm her judging boss numb and i love it's tone not very palatable but it's very empathetic it's kinda like girls but less new york more forgiving. Okay of scherzer's. Yeah no my real asshole. This in a lot of the people are. There is a kindness about it. That i think stems also from eighty. Who is the nicest person in the world and was so welcoming and it it. It wasn't money job. I now i actually labor of love. Yeah what's the ratio that you usually find yourself doing money. Job more something passion. Well i tried to find money. Job isn't going to take away from them. The passion job young which is always the balanced. Sherline life yeah. Hedvig was not a real money. Live on hedvig Until it was on broadway and that was you know for a couple of years. It was a good amount of money but it all disappeared into my mom's healthcare so sure it's it comes and goes and i've been on tour doing the origin of love. Show which is about the making of hedvig which again was four. My mom But his turned out to be also something. I enjoy medicine. Yes so the performing was really more for the money in the directing writing for the love. Sure but now i'm enjoying them. Let's go back to hedwig a little bit or sorry. Pardon me hedvig which. I pronounced correctly for so many years. I don't know why. I'm thinking incorrectly in this show anyway so back to hedvig. We've talking about squeeze box. And we just taped an interview with michael schmidt devon green and i chatted with him about that and it was funny to hear him talk about how he was basic. So adamantly against you doing hedvig it first because you know wasn't a direct. Yeah exactly exactly right. There was a sense of like. You're not really part of the scene. Though it was a new scene that was a punk rock queer bar and it was the thing of had always dreamed of You know there were other and queer places Vaginal davis had a great party in la. And but this was the first one. That was max's kansas city. You know but the queers were ascendant to yeah okay. It was scary and it. Was you know the resurgence of rock and roll in the nineties and various stars would come by and it was an enjoyable to freak out the stars of the moment. Like i remember the beastie boys. It was to gay for the out a lot. Sure okay that time. I think they would. They were freaked out. Yeah i think. John cusak had heart attack there but then others green day. And courtney love you know loved it. Yeah and john waters deserve every week. So it was my heaven. And i became a citizen of squeeze box and michael though. You know skeptical. I realized that i was even though over rehearsed it. All you know it it all let loose in our first gig and i was the first time in drag my first time singing rock with the band wrote a lot of things happened. The And i was so inspired by all of this performers to make something that was different you know it employed drag and employed performance art punk rock to stand up shirghara broadway. It's plot is not unlike gypsy. Were someone feels left out since the jewish kind of a traditional broadway story but the the the subject matter was different. Sure so once they you know i did. My first thing. I i was i was accepted. I was a baby dragon. And i still can't many of those people's my friends sure lady bunny lives across the street from me when charles bush who first inspired me lady bunny who has one of the most interesting political minds because we had lady banana phone call has a few episodes ago. She's the great mother. You know who i wish could relax a little. Have goddamn tv show. Finally earlier trent pre rupaul generation. Even though they were from the same scene It was it was just the luck of the draw. But i love lady bunny and we were talking about rent stabilization and your man how we were still surviving in the village yum because of our rent. Yes and she's like. I know i had no idea. The apartment at procured in nineteen ninety would be the apartment i would die and you know. They are still in the same apartment. Oh yes since ninety three. Oh well So i even though. I was the young person looking up at all of you. Know the dragon broadway legends. I've you know kind of what we huddled together in. You know saint. Vincent's kind of like remember break. I'm carrying these groceries. You might sit you. i feel i feel. I'm an old old jewish lady in the village. Now every getting sunshine boys from your doctor lady bunny. When he started working at squeeze box we started going to squeeze box. What were you doing at the time for acting. Done some broadway shows and some tv surviving on voiceovers. Ironically as a good time yeah I was the voice of the duncan ruse kangaroo. How do you do your donka ruse cookie. Which still gets a lot of response. Sure yeah especially in australia. I had a terrible accident We love a bad accent during asset is. They're not judging like french. People come on either. So i was doing all kinds of stuff but i was a rock and roll kid at hard and i wanted you know. I loved these downtown artists and the spontaneity was so much more exciting than the broadway so i wanted to bring. What was then downtown on. Bring the uptown. Downtown downtown uptown. Sure still it all becomes midtown and i'm still very much a fan of downtown cabaret and go to joe's pub all the time and people like justin. Vivian bond bridget. Everett and yeah amber martin and Lady reseau these are all my you know my homeys. Yeah and is a great nude kind of movement of comedy in in new york. I met a guy named julio torres who's hysterical comedian his writing a spanish language show with fred arms in called la- spooky or something with But he does meet his whole kind of brooklyn scene of very interesting comedians Who were more surreal. Postmodern often people of color queer people a good friend of mine. Pattie harrison plays my sister in shrill friends and we were cast coincidentally great and. She's an amazing talent. A trans woman. You know half economies has a real point of view In opposition to the you know the white male manner so different from women. Aren't they if i tell you. Let me tell ya. Hotels are weird. I recently saw because netflix says every comedy special. It seems like the ever been made tim allen from the mid eighties about ten minutes end was all i could take and that was still comedy a lot tons of it. I mean there was joan rivers to kind of you know put you know to sort of tasers. She has a sort of you know almost like a drag queen had to kind of scream to kind of be heard. I loved her and there was still kinda misogynous but at least interesting. You know andy. Kaufman's and yeah right and Brian george carlin. Yeah in hicks was his name. Bill hicks hicks. Who is kinda dick too. But at least you're breaking it up right exactly Car carlin is a kid. Yeah me too. And and then the word play. Yeah and then they were asked. Eddie murphy was always an asshole. You know a hypocrite a battery. She's for those who don't know eddie has on. I think in a second album. There's a track called faggots and then another track faggots revisited. Onside to yeah. It's really hair risks when you listen back to people because you don't know about his personal life which shows apocrypha which i'm not going to get into no no but you can look it up with the going to get a newspaper at four in the morning. We all do that. Got the news. Got stay on of the nine now. It's very strange but at the same time comedy is a great equalizer leveler You know and that's my favorite kind of comedy that is is fighting is fighting the powers that be to reinforcing the stupidity and there are a lot of really good. This people like laura ramirez and I love Some of them are working on you know on on shrill to comedians Joe firestone and peter smith than lena bender. these are all really great comedians. who are the next wave. look before to check them out. Nice to get recommendations on the new because it's easy to get stuck in stuff the ato. Julio has a lot of very surreal pieces. That wouldn't sometimes get cut from our lives so you okay so you should go online and see some of the ones that were cut. Because they let him show them. Oh that's where. I forgot that the that yes adele some great. There's a great one with the you know some of the women especially that he's written that are gray. He also wrote the malania moment. So okay so yes greatly honey. There was an moment. I've read about being big for you. That was big for me. And lots of people. I know david bowie. With who is the host martin sheen was the host. No oh yes it was. Yeah martin sheen but also what's. His name played blofeld in old bond movies. You know the ball. Yeah yeah was he on there too. He was on that episode. No he i'm sorry. He was to host when the punk band fear was on. Oh rice was another dollar pleasant. Stop pleasance that's right. Yeah that was. Another seminal as yeah which didn't for me a lot eunice. Snl the music especially certainly and bowie of course had klaus nomi and joey are assuming yes keep swinging and he was had a marionette body in blew my mind and then he was in a fully office like pencil skirt yes exactly. Yeah singing Boys keep swinging. Yeah yeah and also the tv see little vied sold the world yet he were kind of. Tweedle dum outfit. That they had to carry them out in which is very close. No meena. I kind of use implements my new outfit for my tour actually but yeah the anarchy of of of those performers and then discovering. I mean i was saw bowie. When i was a kid was scared by his androgynous but later he became my real idle. Sure along with lou reed and and You know patti smith and tina turn so these people Filter through again. You know it's interesting to know of rock and roll come back in the last. Ten years have been a kind of homogeneity of kind of pop l. Sir sounds the same to me sure. Country music is auto tuned. And it's a little hair metal. Gralow old country yemen and dolly's gonna new. Tv she would just run for president with willie nelson all be fine. That'd be fine. I'm happy with that ticket. In fact in the podcast. I joke where i mentioned primaries right. Yeah we're back. Yes thank you for being patient. This patient took his nap. We're still here on my porch raising money to my brain tumor out on in telephone. The world's first. What guys crowdfunding aff. I will tell you that. I also invented grinder because in short bus before there was an iphone. Yeah right there were. Gps you know things. I am to something called janta named after the the matchmaker in filler on the road okay. Yeah and it's a little animated woman who comes up on your screen and says have i got a match for you and then the characters some of the meat that way in one of the older carriages pacemaker starts going haywire because of the app. Turns out to be ed koch. I remember at the time like to my lawyers. I this is going to happen. Isn't it issues that you can't copyright an idea have to make the naked. Yeah so in this. I've invented in this podcast. I've admitted in telethon which is the livestream crowdfunding kind of kickstarter. The world's first wills first. Weezer dan line to get the money. Yeah and my characters. Like i'm staying until i get the money or till i die comes first. And since he's got a lot of time to fill he tells his life story through Stories and song and flashbacks which are really a wonderfully done with archive tape. There's a lot of things in a moment. Dad used to send each other tape letters or managed we did. Yeah it's it's. It's really sweet way of handling. That second tour was my own idea. This earned the seventies. She always said she was born. Too late for jazz stardom and listen to this glaring injustice versus for only youtube video. It's from nine hundred. Seventy five elvis. Show in vegas at the end of love me tender. She rushes the stage and starts throwing eggs at elvis head. Yup that's all we have of her psych. It also wanted to ask you about band of the hand. Weirdly just met keegan michael key at his birthday party. It's like i really love your work. And i'm like waiting for hedvig is like on band of you're the only guy so you're the second the second guy. Yeah that's good. I'm glad to to a week. Who knows what next week will bring you. I've only been recognized. From benetton twice once was in yugoslavia and one susan san juan. What are you doing. we don't learn to live. We're gonna die like joseph man come on. You lost the five now. All i was the punk or new waiver in that who kills his father and blows up his school and his incorrigible and goes to a boot camp in the everglades run by stephen lang of avatar. Who sadly replaced a native american actor because occurs native american arrive. They didn't think could could act it. And he was brought in the hungarian jew that he is well. That's the great thing of ethnic casting in that era. Yeah if you're anything you can be another thing if you were slightly all of skin like a whole rain in biracial those are that's a good thing. That's changing that. We can sure. But you go old. Dynasties which i love but the moroccan characters or something that this guy with the mustache perfect. I remember uh charlton. Heston played a mexican l. Third tiffany favourite offensive characters. An older films that you just look is fun to be able to look back and know that things have changed but i always felt at the time. I wasn't blinded to the absurdity of like are you serious. I mean i guess but there was also an understanding that rich and famous will get to do what they want. And play with your. That's true. which is the club thing that isn't it's you could call it casual racism but it's also a kind of more like capitalism. Yes it was like. These are products that we can dress up in black face or whatever face sure and and that's give him an oscar because they're you know they're brave breaking into that world was always hard and especially for people who are more or more Unique because hollywood always performs a prefers a good-looking person who can play a lot of things. Shirley to alaska looking person who can play a lot of things or even one thing. The seventies was a bit more. Open like oddballs. We know still jonkers to get doesn't happen yet. Be a movie star now. You know you'd have to look better. You know you have to look at So we just under. We accepted that while still railing against that. I think hedvig in some ways for me was just busting out of a certain mode but there was a sense of We took what we could get enough aso. When there was a queer character on there was a movie that i loved called blessed beasts and the children billy moving right. Yeah well he was in lost in space and later actually had a punk band in the civil right. And then also is one of the two guys barnes and barnes. Fish heads really. Yeah yeah he was really cool guy and he was the kind of punkish leader There was another guy who is clearly gay was not playing gay and then there was another character who was supposed to be gay and he was a bed wetter and he was knee and he was like it was every possible stereotype but it was still like finally sure. Yeah you know a gay person. At first there to be pitied and then later before that they were villains comic figures. You know the comic queen. Yes sure of type yet. And then they were victims in the aids are it was like they were to be pitied. Assure hopefully we've come out the other end with career characters and and you know it's much more diverse but those character still move to me even though we only got those crumbs you know a a a black friend will always say at least we you know we had garrett morrison's arnett live even though he was kind of destroyed by the fact that he would wasn't even giving good roles in right. You know my understanding is that he had had a rough time But what are you gonna do. Say no to that job. You know he's had to change later sadly and the the rebel is always Someone braver and more and more courageous. I never. I never thought. I'd miss off as a rebel. I wasn't a street agitator. Like i went to an act up meeting and said i don't know if we should close down all the bridges because some ambulances might not get through in someone diane larry kramer said we're dying so someone else should die and i was like i don't know if that's the right. I was always a centrist. Kinda guy or i would work in the system to make change you know in stylistically change bring in ideas that weren't necessarily in those entertaining mode soon and with this and going into a new mode called podcast which is a new old one there Am barring what. I what i learned from the film and putting it into the audio experience in in more dense storytelling way that partly out of necessity because it was written as tv series and it was turned down by everybody ochre because it was on. General bowl cheryl and hedvig wouldn't have been made now either. You can't really define it. Yeah they want. He's one you can't define it. You can't sell it okay. Yes so there's good tv now but they still fit into genre sure and ours wouldn't quite fit right. If there's enough stars that kind of overcomes that objection in the fact that pale opponent glenn closer in this helps us law sure but they love being part of a new form to and i want to bring in more of my film and tv people into the audio form. Yeah to revolutionize you know it's an every person's medium now you know in the future we will have a podcast for fifteen we were talking about act up and everything and i wanted to ask you about radical ferries. Yeah will you know i guess. I was introduced to radical varies by my friend stephen juicy who also inspired short bus in many ways because he had a wonderful cinema salon where there was food and sixteen millimeter films and sometimes sex would come up. You know in a kind of pub. You know a group way And he would go down to a place called short mountain in tennessee. and there's various commune's around the country that are deemed radical fairy. Which really just it was coined by harry. Hey who started the first queer rights group called mattachine. Which is what your night is named. After i was his name of my party it at julius bar That we've running for eleven years with martin. And emma martin angela decarlo or a co deejays amorous touring with me and my origin of tour And we're going to mexico city next time alcohol and we'll dj there so they have gatherings at some of these Comedians like then exactly queer burning man. But there's ing sense of you know people are going away on earth nureyev being journal Seven hundred people camping on two hundred acres and kind of and feeding everyone and people not being you know demanded for money if you can afford something to pitch in if you don't you're welcome okay. Sure idea of a sanctuary for queer people or people who loved them you know. It tends to be a bit more male than i like. I like a mix of genders and ages and sexualities. Sure because i think a mixed part is always better than too much of the same but it really freed me up and realized that queer has a lot of points of view. This i think more kinda queer hippyish vibe sure By harry hale was thought that people varies should gather together. Do their magic sense spread their love talk about issues make beautiful rituals the sisters of perpetual indulgence. Oh yeah Are adjacent to ferries coming out of san francisco and they're kind of service oriented nuns queer nunzio And that i love you know. I'm a catholic. She loves like the idea of service and helping so it definitely informed short bus for sure. Yeah a lot of fairies are in short bus and for those of you haven't seen short buzzer strongly recommend it. It's a really still kind of edgy film. Because of the use or the inclusion of sex in yeah narrative real sex real such The actors having sex as part of their life story rather than just turning it off an audience you know is not porn because the purpose of it is not to stimulate. In fact most sexist terrible in comic which is more interesting a very tone setting moment in the first five ten minutes at jack i. Everyone is having sex at the beginning. And i know there's a solo loaded but the sexism metaphor for other things you know characters trying to suck himself off as every boy straighter do not eleven fourteen. Yeah and he does but then he burst into tears after coming these alone. Yeah no and another character wants to be alone and he. She cries after an orgasm because she's not alone on sunday. So the metaphor of sex in that case was important and You know. I don't know if i could make short bus now. Not because of right wing christian disapproval but perhaps more from the left in because there is a little kind of puritanical thing happening right now. The comes out of a valid movement of me too and has to do that. You know with with people. Power being misused pressure. But you. I i don't know maybe you know as a gay man directing an asian woman to have an orgasm that would not be allowed now. Right you know could be because it's not me you know sure if sex is happening than someone is being exploited i can see that being a very very Potentially difficult case it was we developed it with the actors for two and a half years so that they were helping craft their characters and create the boundaries. And everyone felt great about it right. Everyone has an agency in it. Yeah yeah and was asked to do anything they didn't want to do. But i was cursing people to challenge himself sexually because culture is so afraid of it right now and i grew up in the catholic thing were sexist. Bad and chris was worse than and also. You were a certain age in the eighties when aids was terrified. I mean it's still sorry but no one knew much an added layer of fear because connected to mortality certainly And we made it. In the years after the protease inhibitors came in to help people. But the fiercest of sex being bad is still very deepen our culture and both the right and the left wing sublimate it with legislation. Few lighter topics do you cook. You know i. I don't cook. But i will cook under pro no cooking a lot in my life. Okay because i realized the skills necessary. When i have i love it okay. Sure i'm in new. York village is like a live alone. You know so. It was less of a thing. I don't really have much of a kitchen. Sure but when. I go to puerto rico where i have a house with a friend and elsewhere get excited because it's the same skills as directing an end Writing improvisation timing sure which is leader and presentation as well as a taste. And also conceiving of what you're going to have yeah base. I'm i'm more of a kind of which she you know creating sauces and stews potions. Okay sure as opposed to the perfect legal disavow to create throw things into create saves. Us makes little spicier which i do. In in other forms to right the nelson make oil essential. Oil blends for fun. When did you start doing that. When i was doing heading on broadway you know had a vaporizer with the oils. And then i had all these extra oil. So i started combining them and making you know kind of aromatherapy things you did all the vocals for the film hedvig live on. What most of them when they were live in the film outside of wigan box in a couple of others which is amazing to think of you in full regalia doing that many takes. I'm sure and directing at the same time. It was exhausting. I'll never do anything that hard. But i learned things from people like altman and stuff. He shot the extra. I o okay. They can get a fresh reaction to what i'm done. That's a really good idea. Is one of your favorite directors. Yeah yes do you have any. Favorite almond films nashville. Three women credible film. Yeah gosford park a wedding. Which is kind of unsung fell. That's great. have you seen health. I've seen health i. I believe it's best. Lost a couple of moments with carol burnett but yeah did cavity to those moments definitely not. It's the not nashville. Well it's better than a perfect couple. Yes opiates digs. He made so many movies and some of them are really. Oh there's so many brilliant ones but that's what's fascinating about watching a bad almond film. It's jason. I talk about a bad stones out or bat out. It's better than most of their albums. Yeah at least it's elder looking every year and they're making an executive cohen brothers. They may be churn out too many and should spend a little bit more time in the script but because they're so good as always entertaining and at least they'd like look good or there's something in the score alan which is really terrible for a while but you know it was the long goodbye is a brilliant film. I just got to see on the big for the first time. He's incredible film. Yeah even later. Gosford park loved the his final per health. Companion love that. I got to meet him at the party for companion well and someone introduced us and he looked at me. Anyone you gotta weird mind. What could be better said. There's not many left. Wow that's even better and i was like. Oh my god. That's the best. I can leave the party now. I'm gonna leave to go home because it's not going to get better and have you met other people like that that you've watched their work for years and years and years as you don't wanna meet your heroes because they they're petty or their disappointing. I do research before. I meet someone but that's a good move. Yeah and there's you know the people that i worship that i don't necessarily wanna meet the is. It might change my view assure. Yeah you know meeting lou reed and and general ins and john waters and you know it is so wonderful to see them as humans but also the fact that they're fighting the good fight and not just trying to make something that more you know more people in see but the right people are going to get you know. Sure i'm a populist you know storyteller. I still want things to be entertaining. I never went for art. Granted i never did an artists colony. I probably should but you know there's other. People who stuff is less Populous that that deserve that spot. Sure more challenging. But you know if i met a tina turner would die. You know these bryant who just imagine my hero. Yeah well you know. I have to tell you. I was so delighted to Dj with you and meet you and discover what love the person you are in person because Hedwig one of my favorite films of all time. Home yeah i saw it in the theater so many times they saved all the promo material and gave it to me I took my mom to see it. Yeah no it's really a remarkable film and every time. I see it outcry. At least two or three times i find it Did you see you've seen the deleted scenes i have. I have a phyllis in the tooth. Yeah might manage the tooth phone. It hasn't happened yet. I'm surprised and andrea martin. Because i'm a massive. Setv yeah you know. I recently wrote that for madeline. Kahn oh ill. She was a friend a new friend and but we were so lucky to have a. She's incredible that. Yeah this is. I don't know if you've seen some of our art for this. Oh yes i saw that. Yeah and this is Glenn close in trouble from being across she. Did you know a couple people. Yeah there's always going to be someone though. What if she's playing jesus in greece. Jesus christ superstar. Did they not show it right exactly her performance. A modesty screened the cynthia riva. Wow okay laurie anderson. Oh yeah they're hero. Yeah denis o'hare underwater. Oh that's really cool so we'll have this art you know on the app of that's cool it. We talked about cooking water. Eating habits like a healthy. Or i'm pretty healthy but i tend to eat the same thing a lot. I love food. When i'm in portland shooting. I really indulge of you know as you get older you know. Food does replaced sex in for same. They have the same. You know endorphin released sure but I'm a huge food. Fan especially asian foods of all kinds of cuisines in a for some reason that pacific rim on that side really speaks to me in spicy flavors but i I want to find a place where i can be creative in that realm. I would love to have a restaurant some day or Another non-decorative disaster. Well that'd be great restaurant. I i really for that sort of thing. Here's amblin me on tour. I love that he. I think i think i will Make plans to come town for. Yeah i really wanna see ya but it'll be in next year well then as well. That'll be fun. Because i never got to see you do Hedvig and so. I'd love to see you really big. But i sing him. You know no but you're doing the songs be like. It's it's as good as it's going to get until you do. That gives me doing it in korea. Oh wow. I'm huge increase in japan. Weirdly the most popular enemy series are is called erie on ice about ice skaters and one of the coaches on. The league is based on me physically. Victor who's a russian skater. Yeah the designer met was like. Yeah we've sort of base it on. You came too soon. Broadway in the the reaction of your fans and and weird. Wow and it's so gay because he is a coach to a japanese Skater in and he's sort of in love with them and they're like coach. You know it's very some would find it a little me to wish but it's very it's very good and they're making a feature of it now. You're on ice. Check it out a few other things before we have to wrap up. What are your sleeping habits like you know. I'm a light sleeper. Need routine to sleep. Well avenger and when i'm working. I hate it but i i can't turn that off so i i've been using ambien but when i'm in you know shoot most sure not regularly joke. It's really bad for you. But i have now been doing the cbd okay. Yeah forward to one. What's the one is the. Cac forty one really helps me sleep through the night without too much which is great because also yes some sleep. Medication can really mess you up. A tailwind sometimes on some of them and of course you directed the scissor sisters video for Filthy gorgeous yeah. A lot of our friends in the a career your basically the star who uses the hula-hoop master who i saw last week here Also wonderful you know textile designer. And i think i kinda put crease into drag for the first time really. Yeah wow says a beautiful. Non binary soul to spirit soul hoping to have on the podcast. Yeah i think she just left i. We're communicating about that while ago. And i think we're going to figure something out the next month or two charlotte rae had cameo in didn't realize garrett tried to. She just passed away. Oh sorry to hear that but she really wanted to do something. Well that certainly fit the bill. And what did you in jason meet. We met at short mountain at the radical fairy gathering. Okay Bell tain and he was singing with a boombox for the no talent show house like yearly talented and. I sang backup for him. D- for some songs. Oh cool so you're on the first album now. Just the first concert. Oh oh i see backup it at your magic mountain okay Just one last thing. We talk a lot on the show to people who have struggled with addiction. And you struggled as someone who's in love with someone yes struggled with addiction and i know we only have a few minutes left but i wanna touch on this because we don't often get that point of view. Nya the alanon point of view. Which is the you know. The non addicted person gets addicted to the addiction dynamic. Okay alanon is about. And it's not much fun in those meetings because a lot of uptight people saying you're reading from the book too long and you know there's a lot of the waiting for the shoe to drop his. I much prefer the. Aa meetings where everyone's more fun. They smoke which proves wire was the lover of an addict. Some but i didn't know much about it wasn't in my family so it was a ger a difficult very difficult journey And also when you with someone who's a sweet drunk people don't challenge them to change. Sure it the assholes actually get ignored avoided so they have to do something about it right And jack steeb. Who was in original band. Cheater even ban over they also the house band squeeze bass player. The houseman squeeze box Was my boyfriend and was taught me all about punk rock and me all about. He wanted to be an old man you know. He was one of those young guys who wanted to skip the middle and go to the end and he liked old guys found charlton heston charming because they were ridiculous and he taught me a lot about pumkin about culture and but he he a drinking problem and You know he went to rehab. The song. the long drift from hedvig was written by steven. Four jack talking about his addiction and it wasn't four hedvig so it ended up in a well okay and he passed away in two thousand four from his addiction and You know i was a turning point in my life. You know that was very sure of cult. And but he talked about him in this piece via through the character gyro who is an an atta tation of him and others who are struggling with addiction and is also a musician so the impetus for the park has really probably came out of his death us dealing with that assure making sensitive i could feel that when listening to know that it was really be to jack and And stephen and i will be talking about him in the show that we do on tour And his i keep in us with his parents and they're very loving and they couldn't understand what happen love. That happened because he was queer. And you know you. You're taught that you're less than human when you're young In many settings cultures so that didn't help his self esteem. And i think he's self medicate you know. A lot of people have higher incidences of addiction and smoking in all kinds of things sir. Because they're that they're not right right. Other people substance use in any form. Did you find that you had a different way of looking at it after the different feeling about it also control control-freak so i was scared of it for myself and i've never done really hard drugs. Eight a Amid lightweight anyway. Though i did find iowa's could be very interesting and useful. And that's a more described moore as a medicine seen in the hot cast. Where the characters do i ask in william burroughs abandoned car which i was writing in his garden right next to is still there. And that's guided shamanistic exploration. Which i think is can be very useful for people especially with addiction e boga a really small. The african route is and it's isolate ibo gain has been used for therapy for heroin addiction. And so i didn't know that yet because it really makes you go deep and look at yourself and can't get away from it. Yeah so a lot of people have found that useful But i i'm repelled. Though i understand the embrace of opiates but even even more repelled by you know by math and coke and things that are what i call the capitalist drugs without consumption and power in the wants to give you a false sense of power and make you lose your empathy completely pot mushrooms and those things can make you feel these those things just reduce sure for example was Similar in his feelings on that John i hate to wrap it up but we have to go. And i have another appointment and it's been such a delight to have you on the show chip pleasure fabulous night's for your near journey absolutely anthem. Oculus starts april twenty third. Yeah on the luminary app Would she can download one for anywhere Think about good saw with healers smallest by all of this off between what you want to watch you. Use a final two wall grief. That's a carry all the water you grow to new drug shoes the Show us dom strangle struggling with boards. Task redden either. A sweet home

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Episode 1259 - Sasheer Zamata

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Episode 1259 - Sasheer Zamata

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The who show woke and ambassador work for the aclu busy person and we had tried to talk at another time and this is the time it happened was very nice to talk to her. It was a good chat. How's it going. Man was too negative an opening. Was i too intense up top. I've i'm getting. I'm getting edgy. I'm getting callous. But i'm working. You know i'm going out there. And i'm doing the comedy every night and it's been great to hang out with the other comics. It's just there's haunted feeling. And i really don't want to be negative and i and i do find a day to day hope but lately what i've been doing is i recently just pulled myself off of the cask of doing instagram. Lives because i just and i. I really don't do any twitter. I'm not on facebook. At all. And then i i can at least see what my life really looks like. But then you have to check in with the news to see the progress of the collapsing democracy and the progress of our eroding and violently dangerous environmental collapse. That seems to be those are the two things. That's all the news right there. You know how are we going to survive environmentally in the future and will we all be killed by our neighbors dark. I've got some. I got some happier stuff i do. I a things are okay. You know. I'm going to dr tomorrow for a checkup. You know 'cause i i. I'm having a little difficulty with my diet. Wisened people. This applies to everyone listening to this right now. Because if you're listening you're using your ears and it's time you gave your ears break just like our fingerprints. No two ears are like. That's why your ear buds. Probably 'cause you some discomfort or even physical pain after a while. The ultimate ears fits true wireless customers fifth ear. Buds from ultimate ears are here to change that ultimate ears. Fits are the world's most comfortable ear buds providing premium sound and all day comfort. You get a guaranteed perfect fit in sixty seconds. 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Manji your road tech work for patti smith and he told me patti smith was gonna be playing out at pappy and heriot's in the desert joshua tree and i've been there once with dean just to get food so i kinda knew it was but i've never seen a show out there so i s barry i said look man. Do you think patty she just doing this. Trio thing with her bass player and her son and they go through the catalog and it's nice here. Sometimes she read some poetry. But i always liked seeing patti smith and i've only seen her once and it was amazing so i asked berry i ask skills. Can you think i can get in there. And he's like. I don't know i gotta check and then i just asked patty and i don't look i have guests on here and You know. I don't ever pester them or follow up but i happen to have a number and i have not really talked to her since a day or two after she did the show. But i just said fuck it you know end times. I texted patty. And i said hey. Can i go to the show with my friend kit. And she's like Let me check. And then she's like no problem and then out of nowhere she says. You know berry says that you play guitar. Do you wanna sit in on the you know people have the power. And i'm like whoa. I don't what so in my experience with this type of thing. My impulse is to say yes. But then that's hijacked by my impulse to realize. Like if i say yes i'm not going to be able to enjoy the show. I'm gonna start worrying now. Today's ahead of the of the show And i'm gonna freak out and it's just to be panic all the way up until the moment i get on stage and then i'm going to hate myself for nothing For fucking up a cord or not or not doing it. Right in the entire experience is going to be selfish and stupid. And i'll just collapse into myself in a weird tornado of insecurity That does nothing but make me want to disappear. Oddly the tornado and the disappearing thing happens at the same time. I have an amazing balance. I don't know if it's a lieber thing but my empathy for human beings is matched only by contempt. So i thought it through though and after my recent experience on stage you know what to just go fund you know just play the song learn. The science said yes. I'll play so. I learned the song It's on acoustic. I get out there. And i gotta be honest with folks i. I used to be jealous of the people who got on and bought homes in joshua tree. Because there's always part of me that thinks like well that'd be nice to have a place out in the desert or have a place anywhere but then i think about when i'm not there which would probably be most of the time what's going to be happening with the place. And why do i have it. But anyway all these hipsters that moved out there to live among the desert hippies and off the grid irs and true lizard people with their hipster skirts and they're hipster haircuts and their sleeve tattoos and whatnot and their three places to get coffee and their airstream trailers all these people that moved out there. I don't know man seems like the environmental acts is coming down. And i hope you enjoy the desert so much to the to the degree that in about two years. It's probably going to be about one hundred and forty five degrees in the summer. There so enjoy josh. Richey enjoy that piece of property when it's one hundred fifty seven out and your air conditioner doesn't work and you're wondering why you're always thirsty as you try to get to your car your land rover or your classic vehicle. Wow why do i gotta hurt. People white. Just enjoy life man. Just take it in. So i get out there to pappy inherits and get out there early and And it was like during gloria skills told me to get ready get on the side of the stage and it was dusty there and it rained. It was one of those nights where it was fucking kind of mystical weird so i get up there and get ready to go on. They call me up and the skill stroz guitar me. And i'm in it. And i was in it and it was great and i was just hanging out up there with jackson playing for patti smith on the people have the power and it was a moving. I and i just. I adore her and she's always amazing and it was an amazing experience but in this is a small but as great as it. Was we all leave the stage and they all get into a car so that means i'm just they're realizing that was the closer. We're not going back. I'm not going back. My guitars in there and people are going to be leaving a flurry as the desert. So i had to think fast. And you know. And i tell them i just hang out and run back in to the outdoor venue. I guess you would call it. I run across the stage in front of it. I say i get my guitar from skills and my give me the guitar. My guitar man. Good job thanks. I run and i just grabbed kit. And i'm like we gotta get outta here man. They're all staying. We gotta get outta here. So i ran to the car which is parked in a good place and i through the guitar in the car and we just bolted. We got out ahead of the crowd and again and i've talked about this before he talked about it at the about the stones concert on my special. But there's nothing more gratifying than like doing that. Thing where where you know. You just act impulsively and you. You're on top of it and you avoid something that could be it at this is i wouldn't say traumatic but annoying and we just got out ahead of it. It was like hit and run men. And we're out and we're on the road and i got into my head that you know tonight we're having in and out burger and we stopped in and out. 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Yeah so have gone through all your shit. Actually i like had like a couple months where i could unpack a ton of stuff and then the night leave and shooting atlanta for three months while to go through shit i like it. I don't know how much stuff gets sent to your podcast. Yeah a bit right. Yeah but where did they send it kio box. They were sending it to ear. We'll for a while. And then now they'll send it to a po box but they didn't know your house address now. I try not to have anyone in my house address. It's hard to keep it hid in. Yeah i'm trying my hardest. i do too. i fucked up. Yeah 'cause i built this out this thing. I built this This was a garage room. And then i had to make it like apartment which it is. Yeah but i didn't. I got the permit my name as opposed to the trust or about my husband tries to try to ease my po box for everything. Yeah so so far. I'm hoping but then i started doing live. Instagram lives from my porch. So i might as. Well just advertise. I mean surely mazel just cross now they no yeah. I just have to trust them. Yeah after trust the the weirdos are not dangerous ones. I now hopefully yeah. How'd you have dangerous weirdos back not good dangerous yeah When i was living in new york this guy frequented a variety show. I used to host could recognize his laugh so like hang back and make sure i didn't run into him and then one day he found me at a different show that was even hosting and it was my birthday happy birthday. That's surprise and he brought a plush starship enterprise because my name's from star trek so he was like oh you would like the star trek references. Happy birthday should wait. So it's from star trek. Yeah yeah my parents were trekkies. Are they still. Yes still are. Yeah i'm pretty sure they still watch. They watch the baby iota. One that starts. Commanders star wars star. Trek's upset i'm such nod in. Wow that's wild yeah. They were like They actually. I didn't get the full story till recently. They were on a wine tour. I didn't realize In in california. Yeah uh-huh and they were drunk watching star trek and drunk on y. Yeah start as you do and Captain kirk was flirting with this alien princess. And she and he gives her a flower rows and they'll so the title of the episode was by any other name and she goes. Oh we have something like this on my planet mad crystal and it's called the sheer. Wow yeah and that was it. And that was it down. And that's the only place that name exists. Well i mean if you looked it up. Was it a made up thing by a writer yet. Well that i mean in that context but there are people who have the names this year like when facebook started and it was just college students i was the only year but then when they expanded to other people it was like me and like a bunch of diene so there are there are others this year's out there. I wonder if that's a source of the name. Probably maybe it started in india. Maybe i've india issue right now. The related to smells it's I someone sent me a bar of indian so brand they have. I can't remember the name of the brand. So mike nice i opened it and i put it in my bathroom. The entire house. Muslims indian spice store. Now interesting i guess. I think i might like that that it's really it's all right. I mean it's a nice smell. I don't know what it's supposed to do or mean. I don't know what your vetik soap does. Yeah do you like Wha we're talking about soaps now. I guess i do. I do like soups difference valley. So yeah i think also seen Lots of things where it's like massages or facials or like food. I mean they're on something. I don't know it's a it's a. It's a discipline of some sort. I can't i don't know what religion comes from. Or what the source of it is but it. Yeah it's a. It's a holistic approach to life. Yeah that's what that's what people do. That's what i was thinking about that. Because your podcast. I'm thinking about podcasts. Because i do a podcast. But it's wake. I think most people do what they want to or not or they think about her not are doing lifestyle podcasts. don't you. Oh for sure. Everyone wants to know how everyone's living we like doing. And are you doing it better than me. And how can i do it like yeah. Do you think about that when you guys do the podcast when you do the show is. Do you have an approach where you're like. I didn't realize it until recently. I mean i talk about stuff and i just start doing a podcast. I do podcast with my friend dean but whether you know it or not once you start talking about your life people are listening to it. Yeah for life things. We actually don't plan anything which we maybe we should one day. But it's like you know it's called best friends so and nicole are best friends who are really actually best friends. Yeah and you can work together and still be best friends. Yeah i feel really lucky. It's like not common. How often do you record We try to bank episodes like every couple of weeks. we'll do. Oh i see so you wearing out the friendship by doing him. Very weak conversing publicly socialize private. Actually yesterday we recorded for two hours in the night. We had dinner last night. Nothing i'm i ran out. Actually it's it's crazy and the only person like when we lived in new york. We spent so much time together because we would like go to audition together. We do be together. We do improv shows at night together and then we get dinner together and then we go home and call each other on the phone like we're very obsessed with each other so sweet. Shift some food show on the air now nailed it. Yeah she's actually nominated for emmy for that. Oh i just see the billboard show the billboard seemed funny but it's one of those things where because i'm getting older and i don't pay attention everything almost every billboard on sunset mike who the fuck is who's the one name guy playing. Yeah they're always dj's but i saw her billboard what's angle on that it's a competition show like the opposite of a regular competition like people. There's like novices. Who are not necessarily chefs or bakers. And they're all trying to bake replicas of actually good cake can be funny. It's funny yeah. So they make really bad cakes and she makes fun of it and it's great can't lose with amateurs trying to do something that they can't really do. Yeah i don't. I don't it doesn't bring me joy. I love to eat. But i don't. I don't really like the process of cooking. I'm in the. I'm in the midst of a sort of food. Shame spiral awesome. Yeah yeah. I i if i go work the road eventually when i get home and just like pieces. Okay yes not okay. It's never it's great. Okay though yeah. During the pandemic. I feel like i did a really good job of eating chinese vegan. Yeah we'll try and do that. They brought it in your boyfriend. Cook now i well. He cooked for us but i ordered purple carrots. Meal service hellofresh just vegan food. Got it But then i started thinking about carbs and now they have too much carbs. Does i always the thing whereas carbs vegan. Yeah that's something you doing for protein lifestyle show. Yeah what was i doing. I was just trusting. The box. cussing whatever they had here. I hope it's in here is up there professional but then yeah now that the world's back open and that was shooting in atlanta for two months and then everything out the window who we shooting down. There woke woke season to watch a few of those. Funny yeah i like it too great. What's that guy's name lamar morris. Yeah yeah he's great. Yeah the whole thing is kind of funny. I liked to. I just watched parts of the first season. But i it's i don't watch a lot of television for whatever reason i don't know why but i like the When when you it's a self-aware show not trying to make some sort of reality frame. He's you know what i mean. Yeah there's elements of like him hallucinating. I like it. It was funny. I thought it was a good show. Thank you where we did. Which studio were shooting down there. Lear in arias. Oh yeah yeah. Student is the oldest ever the remnants. Do you like. I was in atlanta for a couple weeks doing that. Aretha movie and You any comedy did you. Were tech's i didn't actually even though we were very close. I like it's hard for me of a split my brain like when i'm shooting it'd be like oh yeah now i also need to think about performing not entirely but i think because there was such a long break where i wasn't onstage anytime i how to show like my anxiety would start spiraling time like timings anxiety like from the beginning. Yeah yeah 'cause. I'm like was i ever funny. That how do i say is again. Yeah i do it and it's like oh of course it's fine but yeah this is the lead up to it would just be like a little much. It's crazy. yeah i when i was During the pandemic i really like. Maybe i don't need to do it anymore. I didn't miss it. Yeah i was like maybe maybe i'm okay now. I don't need to strangers. You know to make me feel loved or accept it. Yeah but as soon as people start doing it now guy get back. So where'd you grow up. I grip in indianapolis mostly. My dad was in the air force so we moved around a bunch. But i most of my life was in indianapolis. Indiana is that a good city. Yeah so you really think of it as home like you. I do my mom's still there. My brother of her side of the fans. They're all there. Yeah like become now. That like are spot. Because everyone's moved from other places to indianapolis. I don't have a real sense of it. But i used to gigs up. There there was a there was the comedy. What was it called. There was one downtown and then there was one out in broad. Ripple morty is known outboard crackers right. There was a crackers downtown crackers in broad ripple and chicken. Patty used to run it and they used to put us at this like halfway house residents that they owned. Yeah oh it was like back in the day of wake. The worst kind of comedy conduct like there was literally police wines. You know like like what happened here. But so my memories are a little hazy rare bloomington to work bloomington. Yeah do you go out there to do the comedy attica. Yeah yeah i like it. A lot jared dare yeah. It's great space. Yeah it's small. Yeah get work done for sure. Yeah it's a great place to work out. And i've always had good shows there so you grew up there and you have a lot brothers and sisters just one brother. How's that guy he's good. He's still in indianapolis. He's an artist painter. Kind of everything graphic stuff. He paints these skulls He's still in school so he's still trying to figure out what the next step is really. I'm china like push into animation. Like we can do something together. Right go be practically living at it. I mean that'd be nice. Yeah he's great and when when you started doing performing stuff did you I noticed that on the resume. Before i forget that you did the finding your roots show. I did that to jews back. So you jews all the way back. Yeah he was a very excited he was like. We've never gotten this far back with this particular strain of jew. Would you find slaves. Oh no way for a thing that did rock my world so One of my ancestors created a town fargo arkansas. And it's still exists really. Yeah there's like a great exodus from south carolina and then he made his way to arkansas. Like bought a bunch of land and after the civil war yeah and created this community. What happened to it was a historical horror to probably was. We've discussed that. Just seems like the the black experiment with building. Towns doesn't always go for sure. Well it's nice that it's still there. Yeah so but indianapolis. It was a big shot in the air force. Kind of yeah. He would like he i. He did something with planes. I can't remember but he he doesn't fly i think he he like he was very It's interesting like i guess he doesn't come off as artsy but he's always interested in like tv stuff. So he like edit videos on how to like work the plane or like training sessions and stuff and then. He was a part of combat camera. Which i think was like kind of editing. These newsletters of like stuff that was happening overseas okay and then he taught a lot. He thought at the defense school in maryland. Yeah there's the air force academy of some kind in colorado. I know in a mountain or something. Yeah secretive and weird. I know anything about it but maryland. Yeah so yeah. We like moved around a bunch of now's younger as born in japan and okinawa japan. Do you remember. I don't remember when i was like ten months old. So we've been there. We've been back. I want to go to japan. I would love to. Yeah i wanna looks amazing i. I'm fascinated with it but apparently not enough to travel. I find that with a lot of things like i. India's seems really fascinated me. But i'm not gonna go on day. I mean you have india in your bathroom sounding pervasive. Well that's why. I always feel like an asshole because i'm interested in india but people ask me why it's sort of like the food. The bread is so good and that's got to be insulting someone. There's so much more horrible class. Strife disease you know like It's i'm sure it's beautiful but it's it's a little fraught right but i'm just sort of like to head but that brad it's gotta be great so in you ended up. When did you start performing. i started well. I kind of always performed as always in musicals and choir and when you're a kid when i was a kid. Yeah as church choir. Since i was like nine church Baptist church baptist. Not full on baptists. We could like aware we could wear pants and jewelry and stuff mile baptist Yeah and it was nice I feel like my mom didn't really care that much about the religion aspect i mean. Maybe she does. I don't know. But i feel like it was more the community. Sure and that was my community. As i grew up but then i got older and i started listening more and was like not loving the the god thing. The thing yeah. It wasn't levin whole god kind of had been removed from the church for a long time. But but that's interesting isn't it. Because i don't know like i never i never i was never pushed on you or did you. I mean if you weren't really brought up with this idea of jesus but your mom kind of dug the church thing and the singing and everything. When did it start to wonder what triggered you to be like annoyed by the idea of it. It just hated hearing about money all the time a lot of like thai sized ties like oh tithing. Yeah so you saw the racket. I saw the record. Yeah i went to college at me and some other girls who also grew up in churches. Where like we should find church and go together and we would church hop and we just couldn't find anything. I also got in a fight with a deacon one day because he was like you know picking scripture that shows like women are are here to serve men. And this and that and i was like. Is that really what you're getting from. This and we had a disagreement. This this isn't virginia does that. Uva went to school there. But i was like yeah. I don't think i needed to do this anymore. Fighting with people. But what was the impulse to to serve church hop because we're good little girls. That's what we're supposed to do right. Yeah and then that dislike. That mission ended in very like. Let's go to the club. That's interesting so you get there and you're like well. We're like freshman year. I met a bunch of other is like me very lucky. I still talk to these girls. But there's just like a group black girls on my hall. We were all like we grew up in church. We are smart. We're i dunno. Let's hang out together and together and so yeah. We tried to find churches and then didn't just drink together and that'll be good to you. Sure we have a community few of us here. So that's where you ended up in. Virginia university of virginia charlottesville virginia place. It's nice i mean i. I had a great experience there. It it's like a mixed thing where i thought virginia was like east. I didn't think it was south. But but it's very much. The south is the first time you felt. We go from the mid west of south. Yeah i mean. I can't like i i don't know what's the black community in indianapolis. There's a lot of the big black community. It is kind of like early when i was growing up there segregated at lake so much so that was like rules. They're segregated but there's like communities where. Yeah yeah aren't most cities like that. Yeah i mean yeah yeah actually yes actually yes. It's it's a disturbing but true thing. i mean. i was in boston for years. Yeah and you'd be in boston. You like where are they hiding them now. Yeah it's it's a trip because it's you know you think it's a liberal town but it's only liberal in the sense that There's so many college students The actual structure of the thing. It's just the way it is. Yeah i don't know how that changes. The only one that i ever felt was that i lived in atlanta's pretty well integrated feels. Yeah doesn't it. Yeah because like there's like new york to to a degree as well. But i mean new york is like no one lives in new york. Everyone's gotta come in to be right. I in new york. I was in prospect park south and i- brooklyn in brooklyn in brooklyn whole time in brooklyn. Oh well just south of prospect park and it's I i remember like i was in a very Bangladeshi area and then you like walk a few blocks in it'd be very acidic ju- area a few blocks windsor terrace. And it's like a fluent rich white people in their cars and they have driveways and it was kinda crazy but it was nice that everything was so close but it was very sectioned off yet. But it's but it's blocked block there. Yeah like you know. You can't avoid everybody now. There's some cities where it's sort of like where you know you away but I lived in queens. It was crazy like that. I loved the this sort of like element of. Where's everyone from this music coming. Yeah egyptians on stein way and then. There was some kind of ukrainian bar. I don't even know what kind of eastern european bar was an annoyed me. I was like what is that rhythm and i just i enjoyed in the greeks like i like living out here just to get armenian stink. Guy occasionally reminds me of new york issue. Old people from an old country looking at you like you're the stranger. Yeah that's nice isn't it reminds me a new york. Yeah so when you were in college did you do Did you do the performing. Yeah i started doing musicals. And then everyone around me was editing for plays and stuff and i was like that seems fun so started doing that and then like my second year i was like i think this is what i wanna do. I think a moment that made that apparent. I did for colored girls who considers suicide when the rainbow is enough. And it's a corio poem and it was all black female cast to korea poem it's Oppo m with movement so we danced and then the the way. The words were structured wasn't necessarily like dialogue monologues but it was poetry and Yeah i remember. The director theresa davis she would send out into the crowd after the show is done and we had to talk to the audience and it was just nice to hear people say like i relate to the so much and it was like old people young people white people black people like just all everyone was like this was such a human experience and even though i'm not a black woman i i understand this feeling and i remember being like i wanna do that all the time. I just want to do something that connects to people. Yeah in the moment. And so. Yeah as i want to perform yeah. It's nice when something when the pieces is so powerful and you get to be part of it as an actor so rare because a lot of times as you know you know and i. I didn't do a lot of acting when i was younger. Because i just couldn't wrap my brain around the process of of giving someone that much power over my life audition process just an es nightmares ideal but Not idealised very diplomatic but But but but yeah but the fact that. Like if you have something amazing that you can perform and you get to live through that and then get the rewards from it. Be part of that collaboration. It's great yeah and comedy once you start doing stand up. And i'm sorry doing improv in college There's an improv group. That was long standing from. I guess longstanding from the nineties but I auditioned for it. Didn't make it and started my own group with some people You rebel fuck that old timey in from truly the cutting edge and then The prices brigade theater touring company came to uva. And bobby moynihan appreciate zach woods. Was there shannon. O'neill here remember. I remember being like whoa. Yeah yeah and also we had a queue in a after with them and someone asked like how do you get a career in comedy and bobby was like moved to new york. Work really hard and and go to uc. And i was like okay and Yeah after i graduated. We've moved to new york went to immediately like fell in love. I think my first show was a new year. Show and amy poehler and ratios came out on stage and i was like this is what happens all the time and yeah. You were like improv nerd. I was that's That's wild. I mean because i you know. I remember when they all came to new york. I remember when they started that. Yeah i remember before they had the theater and then there's just becomes there's this model this improv franchising model. Yeah it was an yeah so you took classes their classes. You became part of the place of the place. Yeah i was just like this feels good. These are my people and Then i started performing there. I was on a herald team. Actually before on harold team i was on a in group with nickel buyer and he says ahler and we like formed it because we didn't make herald teams. We didn't make house teams. Another legs mean. You've got to audition for the herald team yet to be on a regular house to audition young and then they could say yes or no. I got to know right. And i was like well then. I'll boss there was like multiple people. Anthony king was the ad at the time but he himself has like helped me immensely through my career. So that's nice I gotta know at first but then eventually got many times. I know it happens. You just gotta keep pressing on. Yeah i wasn't trying to trouble trying to make trouble b. world but that whole that whole scene was like i come from stand-up so and i've talked about this before i did. I'm not a. I was not a collaborator. And we are you lone wolves out in the world. Yeah well yeah. Generation was but it just seems like you know the entire culture of new comedy is all from sketch from improv. The standup thing. Let's build the show around the standup thing. Doesn't i yeah the anymore. Yeah but i did. I kind of did everything at the same time. I moved to new york to nine giving improv classes and then shortly after started doing standup and sketch But you feel like stand up. I i loved the community came up in because i do feel like even though it is a solitary art form. People will help you. Like people will be like sure. We'll we grew up in the time of like comic produce shows. Yeah oh for sure. Yeah yeah so you. That's totally different. 'cause everyone's sort of white it'll be fun bring people. Am we have found a bathroom in a basement. Let's let's that. Yeah you're on a roof bring people. Yeah yeah when i was coming up is like the comedy club has one or two nights we gotta go hammered out But i'm not complaining. I did my share of all those other shows. Once the ones i evolved with the medium. I mean i'll do the room. I helped start one of the bigger ones in new york. But i never thought of myself as we could all comic. I watched some of your up. You seem to know what you're doing. Hey thanks and it was funny and usually. I'm resentful of young. Ones coming up to the improv. Not paying your dues properly. Yeah i think it held it. I did it all at the same time. And i feel like each thing influenced the other thing like. I feel like my improv. Stand up like loosen up and feel like my stand up. Felt my improv and sketch. Like as far as writing and like editing south editing. As i'm going well who else was like who was. Were like who is around then. Who's who your class of people. I e you're younger than mullany and those guys right. Yeah and Crawl in them. That was like in between the original and me. I guess what what were some of the people other than nicole who anyone that. I know that we know michael carmichael jamaica. Acp he wasn't icbm. Oh i guess we're talking about. Yeah just standard work. yeah. I don't know it's surfaced surface out. I know it's weird thing isn't it. Yeah like as you get older. You'll continue to wonder like what happened. See them on a weird show macos. Yeah but the stand up thing. It was never something that you were like. I'm going to do this for a living. Was it or it. It act shortly. After i started. I was like i love this. I wanna keep doing it. Yeah i remember when. I decided i wanted to do it as a a living by. Just you did decide that you wanted to. Because he did a special special special called pizza mind Came out in two thousand seventeen But yeah net flicks. It was on c. So does now defunct but you get it back gone for good golfer. It's on amazon prime or good. And i think the l. o. l. network. It's i kinda got a raw deal. So it's an a lot of places that i didn't have control over right but it puts out this out. It's out there and he's been watch it you know with specialists. It's sort of weird. It's you know they usually have a shelf. I don't know how topical the whole thing was but it seemed like it was pretty general could've survived. Yeah i mean yeah. It's actually like i haven't watched it recently but still have people who watch and they're like. Yeah this still applies now because like talking about being a black woman in america and race and gender and stuff like that. Doesn't that doesn't chain. Evergreen swallow turn. Yeah yeah but that was but you seem to be more involved with. I mean i want to sort of get a little bit with. Snl thing because that was one of the things that was so it was such an odd time. Because you're the one. Yeah you unless roy year it and it was so much attention on this idea of them reacting to You know decades of of sort of non diversification within the system and then all of a sudden they get called out. And you're like we got to and you're one. Yeah but they followed you through the whole process. They did yeah. This is a crazy. It was crazy is interesting i was like. Snl and anthony king. Actually the ad of ucb contacted snl Maybe into as in eleven or something B because my my improv group with two other black women we were crushing it theater so he was like you guys see this And lindsey shook us came to see a show and told us we should send tapes and so we like had been sending tapes and auditioning and doing showcases for a couple years at this point and then them to them to to. Snl had your tape. Yeah i was heart of the. That was what you were taught like to. I mean that was like like. I never really heard that before you had you had solicited or send tapes before it s and every year again. Yeah yeah. I think this is a possibility. This is how you do is kind of how you do. Yeah they scout you. They know you are policing the tape. Like the tape You do these showcases where you perform live in front of audience and lawrence some of the producers if they like. That did that with comedy. Yeah but i didn't like. I never like sent tapes or anything before. Yeah yeah the character real. Oh yeah yeah who'd you do I can't remember. I did a really dumb one Ah angela basset hound where she was a it. Was angela bassett as a dog. So really stupid. I know. I did all of destiny's child like talking to each other Think did nikki moniz Who's on your first character real. I that wasn't my. I care to real and i don't lay. It's also gone gone because the guy who recorded it like deleted the footage. Because it's like. I don't need it anymore and i was like. What do you think you can have a coffee i. I didn't have copy. These people like you know you sort of like. Just do these things on their computer. And then it's not. It's not and i'm like i guess it's this kind So they come so what. What is the timing of the thing they came to see you with the troupe. Yeah yeah that was maybe two as an eleven year and then the next year more showcases in the next year and i remember i think it was like two thousand thirteen. I'm going to give this a really good shot. I'm gonna actually. Because i feel like i was very green before and they still was but only a few years in two thousand nine you got there yeah whereas like even a really good shot and if nothing comes of it i think I think i'm good on auditioning and then and also i wanted to move to la at that point so you have a enough of It seems like you were well parented and have a good sense of self that you were not you know hanging your entire hopes and dreams on. It seems very practical to be able to be like all right. Yeah thanks Yeah because i wanted it. I enjoyed allah. That was like a goal of mine. When i was younger i watched it and and mad tv and was like oh my god. How do these people get here. Like this is so cool but then like that was the end of the thought but when i moved to new york and it was like whoa. It's a possibility here. Yeah i want this but then also there are also other jobs and so you always knew that. Yeah yeah but like new. As like i love this. I love comedy but didn't know how anyone got to do it right but once you spend enough time at uc you start to realize that. I can. i can ride. I can act. Yeah there's another world out there it's not all snl totally and But also still very much wanted it new. And so i i put together a tape senate to my managers for notes and he was like actually this like ended thirteen. He was like they are currently looking for black woman. I need this this to the panic and the panic truly like oh god. There's an alert. Everyone needs to send black women to them right now and so yes. They sent the tape in. And then they did a showcase in la and in new york and it was all went very fast and it was also very different from reaction is the reaction. Yes they got called out for not having a black woman for years and And yeah there was kind of a frenzy about it and and yes they. The media was very much involved with it was weird. 'cause like the they'd listed people people's names like they're going into the studio to test on monday on monday being like good luck regularly and i'm like you shouldn't even know about and you know. Snl had to be leaking. That maybe and i. I mean i don't know maybe i'm not. Everyone knew everyone knew. And i kind of like you know. My anxiety was spiraling. I kinda didn't leave my house for a while. Because i was like. I just wanna talk to people. Everywhere i went people were like well. What's what's the process now. Yeah we're usually when people audition they kind of have the luxury of doing it in private they get it awesome great surprise if not no one knows you. No matter what happens everyone is gonna know everyone truly. Yeah yeah. It was maddening. And i remember i actually had an apartment lined up in l. a. at the year. Yeah so you're saying you're ready to go. Oh i was your on here just to act to act. Yeah yeah I had all my goodbye shows. I pass my variety. Show somebody else i was like. I'm gone but then this process will still happening. And i was like i don't really know what to do. Did you have representation. Everything you were ready to go. Okay yeah yeah and you weren't coming out here totally blind i know and then yeah and then i tested and i remember i mean in the studio in the studio actually went after leslie. 'cause i could hear her. I was in the hallway. She that's that's a lot to follow true. Yeah back to follow and then you know everyone's dying in there and I remember chris kelly. The stage manager was in the hallway and he was like you know we have to look forward. We had to look at the camera but all the people who are watching on the side of the stage hurt as possible. Yup well obstacle but he was like If you ever get nervous. Look at me. And i'll be laughing smiling and then i was on stage and i looked at him and he was just the best audience on forever and And i it was like one of those moments whereas like i did the best i could do was like i knew i left leg. That was yeah. It's like if they don't want it then they don't want they clearly. I know i did the best. I ever did anything. That's great and and we'll see what happens. And then yeah. And then i and then i got the call from lauren. It was crazy And then the next call. I got was from the publicist being like. Hey if anyone contacts you know comment. And i was like okay weird and then the next call i got was from like cnn shows like how the fuck did you get my phone number but yeah they were all great ormond. Yeah i was like no comment. I was already told not to say anything. Fuck hung up. You've just become part of the they. Snl will manage all messaging. Yeah exactly the is interesting. Like i mean. Lauren was great that he like pulled me into his office. At one point to be like we've never had a cast member. Who had this much media attention around them before they got on the show and then with me. Yeah and He's kind of like are you okay. How are you doing. And i had such like rose colored glasses. At the time. I was like great. This is awesome like what. What's there to complain about the leader's like anxiety and all this other stuff start to unfold. I think just like i mean the anxiety the electro like all this attention. So that's interesting. 'cause did less get it as well. The hired as a writer. I got i got. I got hired castle. Because i was the rack right. And then they got hired as a writer and then the next season they made her a cast member Which is great because they wanna be the only one. When did you but when it start to feel what. How did it unfold in terms of you starting to see yourself differently in relation to the show like you know because i mean i've talked to a lot of people about that show about the experience and i know that for a lot of people. It's competitive in difficult and horrible for some people. You know the people that are. I don't know what determines how someone handles that process but But what was your experience. How did it start to chip away at you I mean it was a lot and i think. I don't think it was really the show was chipping away. I think it was really the media stuff. And i from the beginning from the beginning and it was. It was just very strange. Like i developed a distrust of the press people lake but it never went up like they were once i started to go on then. They were like once. You're going to be on. How come they're not using lake. I mean one very clear story like where this distress started was That when they made Where they put michael j. on the update tasmania I get a phone call. I'm out to dinner from the publicist from. Snl publicist who's like hey paid six wants to print article saying that. You were overheard at a restaurant lake. Dizzying the decision. That michael j. should be on the update desk like that. You don't like the fact that there's two men on the update desk should be to women. And this and that and i was like no. That's not true. Because i don't think i did. It wasn't even a thought in my head. It's unfortunate because it's like someone could have overheard me talking about the show restaurants or by definitely didn't say vat and i was like well that's not true and she's like well they're printing anyway and they can do that can just print so they called the fact check and i'm telling you the facts are not true and they're still gonna to it and they're like yeah. What happened with that. No thankfully we all we all talked and they get it. They're everyone's like yeah. People print fake stuff all the time. It's like oh we know that's not you And so terrible. It was terrible but then like a happy memory from that There there were some party. Snl was hosting and that writer who that was at the party. That'd be bold move. And i was talking to me and shea at the bar. We recognize the guy. And we're like oh my god. I can't believe here and change called him over an pretended like he didn't know him at all. Like hey man like let's take a shot and he's like what do you do in the guy's like oh and he's like that's crazy. I'm a writer too. I write for us and now like what. What kind of stuff do you write about. And he's like I write about essen celebs and really. That's nuts you know. Some people right really crazy shit about us like lies sometimes. It is not good and then the guys like you know who i am you know. I wrote the article. Like oh yeah i think i do recognize what Were a family and when you write things that lake conflict with our energy is yeah. It's not good for us. So maybe don't do that anymore. And he's like took the shot and walked away and i was like. Has andy went on. Did it anyway did. And it didn't stop. His career is journey. But it just felt fucking worse man. Yeah parasites are they're vultures In that's only gotten worse. Yeah now all of it. yeah so. That's the media thing but what was going on you know in terms of the work for as far as the work i mean i feel like i went through waves of trying to figure out the show Trying to align yourself with writers and stuff like totally yeah trying to find ready to glove onto to china right by myself dra right things that have worked on the show before trying to write things that are totally different than what the show likes trying to you know just tried everything and sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn't. But i think eventually it it didn't take too long whereas like oh you know what not nothing makes sense here and that's kind of free like there's no formula that i figure out anyway where it's like. Oh if you always do this this works or if you always talk to this person that works like and then there'd be weeks where it's like. I feel isolated. Or i feel lonely or i feel like none of my shits working but then i'm like oh that doesn't have anything to do with me. There's like so many people here all dealing with their own shit individually. That's like no one's thinking about me and that's okay so you didn't feel that there was you know some sort of system in place or that there was some even if it wasn't a system could you sense it like some people were being pushed forward and some people were being left behind. Yeah for reasons that seemed either unfair or or or white just they. Obviously it's not it. It's not spontaneous now. But it's not i don't i don't think it was like people were being pushed for unfair es and sometimes it's easier like like who can do this impression. Kate all right. Who do the song sesa lately. You know it's just like sure there's off the top of the dome like. How can we utilize this new person that we don't know what she can do yet right. But i mean it goes on for a while right. You were there for how long three and a half years four seasons and at some point. You're like whoa. This is not yes yes. They're never going to use the new person to her full degree of talent. Yeah i think yeah it was. I mean i went into my last season being like. I think this'll be season was pretty confident. Your decision yeah and did you. Did you talk to learn about that. I did yeah I talked to him a couple of times to be like this is not working. And what can we do. I was trying to find solutions. And he was two and was like well. Let's figure something out which we didn't really but you know he was always supportive. He wanted me there which was a good feeling like me and things on talented. Have you bet not translate into more opportunity on the show. Well there's a lot of factors not just you know and then there's also like what is the show need that week rotor. Wha what is the host lake. What is what what. What did we do last week that we wanted to get to that we need to do this week. There's so many other factors you know is not just like you and your good and should be on the show you never at any point started to feel like you know. I'm not funding For way yeah. I think i think everybody goes to the time we you're like. Wow maybe my maybe. I thought it was funny and then i got here and i realized i'm not or i'd never was and not talented but Yeah you know shakes her confidence while in after like how of that do you need. I mean that struggle of something that plays on your insecurities over a period of time which we all have like. I guess you come to sort of some sort of like crossroads where you're sort of like this isn't going to get any better and it could diminish my my sense of self if i don't you know rise above this. Yeah i think that's what it really came down to you. Because i was like. I don't think mental health is worth staying here. I think i choosing me. I'm choosing myself. I could have stayed the whole seven year contract. Probably but i don't know if i would have felt good and and yeah but also like i mean that's sort of the fascinating thing about your particular story within it is at well how did you how did you did you warn with sort of like okay. I understand you can go. I went to him towards the end of the season and quick. And you know. I had a life coach at the time. That was really prepping me on this and like trying to help me with the words because it was very intimidating to like to go into warren's office go into lawrence office period and they also tell them i don't want to be on your show Life coaches that specifically deal with quitting You know it. It's like leaving a relationships or so. Yeah did you hire the wife coach for that. I already had it for other stuff but that is what we were working on the time. And we worked on other things before that we worked on like how to communicate my ideas to the writer's room how to like you know gel with people is as a team and then then it shifted to. How do i leave. How did you find this wife coach. Her name's betsy capes she. She actually a world famous wife coach for a coaching. She's a kind of a famous coach for like artists. She understands the entertainment industry and works a lot of people who new york person. Yeah that's so funny because back in my day there was a therapist that he used to work with comedian. Guy probably yes. Oh she was. How how did she advise you. Did you cry cry. Good for you damn. That's a good story already I think i just kind of i mean honestly This sometimes my i feel like my system get so overwhelmed blackout and i don't really know what's happening in the moment. I happen to like weekly. So i don't really know what i said. I cannot remember the actual conversation. I remember the feelings and ruled. It looks like i don't really remember it. Was it just you and him. Yeah and we're in his office and it was. Actually i think before dress rehearsal or something it was like i couldn't really catch on a day. That felt easy. Of course it was like it's a rush conversation happen. Yeah but you didn't quite know exactly one. Yeah because i asked us. Assistance can get a moment with lauren. Like sure we'll get back to you. It's a win and like he's available now are you kidding me. I'm getting my makeup done But yeah we spoke. And i think i was just kind of like you know we tried and i tried really really hard and i loved my experience here but i. I don't think i can continue. And and he understood what i was saying and it felt good good conversation and then i remember leaving the room any like passing on the shoulder and he's like well. Let me know what you decide and i was like i. I just i was like what's happening. I just did. Please come back and quit again. What's interesting is like a tactic. I can't tell was not very clear. Definitely to but then Our last week of the show the the at the table read usually. There's like a fake sketch to say goodbye to anyone who's leaving And you and colin jost was usually wondering that and so he asked me he was like a herd quit Do you want me to include you in the sketch. And i was like i don't know because i'm not quite sure that lauren knows i'm leaving. It feels like i had to quit again but like yeah put it. Put me in the sketch. I feel like maybe that was when he knew that i was leaving. Because we're reading the sketch. And we're saying goodbye to vanessa. Were saying by to bobby. And then we say vitamin e. and those are all the people that were leaving at the end of that season. Yeah okay and i know we're we're crying and stuff and i think that's how long people were like. Oh shit she's actually leaving and yeah. That was that was it. Yeah because i mean there is some sort of like usually when somebody if you would have stayed the entire seven years and it would have kept going the way that it was going It would have been difficult for you to move on. Yeah and the fact that you left after three and a half four years of your own choosing and then you had to sort of reinvent your approach to show business on your own without having cachet it was. It was a weird. I mean i think the four side of it was if i stay here the full contract and it keeps going like this up. I'll be a you know. Kind of like Exiled to obscurity. In a way right so if you quit after three and a half years because you want to do something else in you have that much belief in yourself. I mean that must have been pretty scary. Yeah it was but also felt really good. It was like i and i think to some people it looked like. Oh she must have other stuff going on. I did not. I didn't have a plan. I just know. I can't be here anymore. But you also realize like you know the people that launch out of snl it becomes pretty apparent. You know all. I don't know how you know when You know yeah right. Who's going to like. You know be shot out of the canon huge. You know. I mean that's sort of what that show does for certain people and i i know no that ever thought about it like this before but there's plenty people are sitting there going like i don't know if i'm gonna have turned the cannon. Yeah yeah there's a lot of people on that. I was number seventeen when i was hired. Little fat cast. Wow so what were you. You just came out here or would you do. I stayed in new york for a little while longer And then i just started. I mean then. I started getting roles. I had shot a show on comedy central called robbie. Roy scoville doesn't lasso g for a bit Enjoy working with him i also. He's great he's not he's not a he's amazing. I mean he also lake. There's nobody like him like yeah. I think there's also like some like snl Love there. But i really love and appreciate and also i remember when he Dropped by the show He was in my office and he was like he gave me one of the best pieces of ice. I don't even think i ask for it. But he was saying something like You can't ask for permission here anymore. Don't act like you got the job. Don't ask for permission here. Like start showing your teeth and that did kind of shift me i do. I do feel like I showed my teeth in different ways. Because by the time i left i think also because i knew i was leaving. I didn't feel like small. I wasn't like oh. Maybe i should ask for this. I would just be like i want this. This is not happening. i would just be clear. Sometimes it didn't always work Sometimes it would like. I had a nice win where i wrote a mother's day scheduled cd green. And julio torres call the cut and it was about when mom's cut their hair short. Where's the side speaking of the top. It's like typical mom cut That's when they know they're a mom and And it's kind of like a horror sketch but we wrote it and they're like so many mothers as sketches already. In one of the producers games office was like. We don't have time to read this one so we're not. We're going to bump it. And i was like i think we should really read it. And she's like okay. I i don't even know high phrase it whether they convinced her to read it we did read it. Lauren loved it. It got in the show. He called it a perfect sketch. And i was like it. Went from not even almost not being read at all do now. It's like one of the best sketches of that night. And because i said no thank you. I'd like to read it. So i dunno nice things like that. That's good. yeah well. I mean it seems to me that not unlike your audition that you feel like you did everything you could do. You feel that way. Yeah and that you know. It's not for any shortcoming of yours. Yeah that shit did not work out. Yeah and also like and also sometimes shit doesn't work out like i have dated really nice good people. Are you know perfectly good people and it didn't work out so it's like this shows great. I'm great and sometimes the combination hasn't worked for whatever reason and i'm like so glad i was there and i'm also left for everything that happened because i do feel like i left like a better writer a better communicator stronger person. I feel like. I can do literally anything like i. You do do a lot of things things. Yeah i mean and like i think that if you think about spending the other two and a half or three years there which would mean you really only had time to do the one thing It probably would have been different outcome. Yeah so you just started booking roles pretty quickly. Yeah i got An nbc pilot and the more things are pulling me to la. Then i was like okay. I'll move to la and yep and you've been here since i've been here since. Yeah and it seems like you're pretty well integrated into the world of comedy around here. Yeah i'd say so still doing standup Yeah where the improv. I dunno random. All spaces Yeah which is used to. I haven't written new seven wild. But it's like i think is my pandemic brain like i couldn't. I truly thought nothing was funny for a year. How long have you been doing the podcast. I think like two years. Yeah there's going. Well it's going. Well yeah people like it. I like it. We were doing live shows at largo for a minute. That was really fun. Just do show over there i. It's i like oregon. And how did the live shows go air grain You know it's just like as an amazing business to the two that we can get away with that if we now just to like talk to your friend in people like it. It's crazy yeah actually talking about lifestyle podcast earlier Nicole texted me a screen. Shot of a reddit post because at some point in time during the podcast i think i went on a rant about how women need to like. Look at their policies. And i talked about this act as well just like look. Look at yourself like we been told for so long. This is like a secret spot. No one wants to look at it but we gotta look at it. It's yours yeah. And this woman looked at it and like found a precancerous lake growth but like wouldn't have if she didn't just like like actually get down there and look at your inspired her to we save somebody's life just by telling her look at their posting. Yeah now i feel like. That's a very proactive. Maybe i should tell people who could actually. Yes what's weird that you don't like how much can look. I'm pretty sure i'm familiar with my my stuff. Yeah i think. It's just like to know what i'm the most people it just. Yeah i think just in no it sure so that. When something's different can only say that i have to now i should get checked out or maybe not but what now when did Because it seems like as with the standup i. I don't know. Maybe i'm connecting things. But what was this this role that you were asked to Engage in with the aclu. Oh that was kind of. Because i think people from the aclu heard my material and we're like oh this kind of aligns with the stuff that we're doing and i work with the women's rights project so it's a lot of talking about women's issues and what needs to be done to like maintain our rights in this country. Reach out to you a question. Maybe i think someone just emailed me and they're like we like your staff. Will you like kind of a mouthpiece for us. And i was like yeah totally and kind of felt like an honor to be as and i. I've written sketches for them. Essays and grew spoke on different events. So it's a nice way. That i can kind of bring humor and break things down for them. Because they're like they have a lot of law jargon going on like make making more digestible. Also they give me information that i can put into material to get to my audience to where i'm like. Oh this is what's happening right now like we can be yeah educated. Yeah up to speed exactly. Yeah i i. I thank god for the aso. Aclu oh my god. I don't know where the hell we would be without them for years. I give only give to a few different charities. It's definitely one of them. Yeah and one of them's a tiger rescue in north carolina nice. It's also important. I love tigers. Big cats big cats. Oh yeah have you been over there to. North carolina appreciates north carolina. Yeah i go there whenever i'm in raleigh. Now it's what they do is like a lot of people like there's not laws that say you can't buy big cats now so people buy them when they're little and then all of a sudden they've got full tigers yet. Yeah well this place gets those and they just have all these cats that are just hanging all different kinds of big cats. They they save them from roadside attractions to okay. These like horrible little zoos. Yeah people just don't know what they're getting into. I don't understand people have you to. Do you know what south of the border is no. It's like a roadside attraction. It's i pass all the time. We were taking road trips when i was younger. And they'd be these huge billboards like kids. Tell your parents you want to go to south of the border. And then i was on a road trip during the pandemic actually recently. Recently you pass these. South carolina is like. Oh my god always wanted to see this thing like it's it just seems so weird we gotta go and we on the border of South carolina north carolina. Yes it's south of the border and They had this reptile terrarium. Or whatever you call it and like everything looked so sick and sad like just these allegations too small tank and these snakes like. Why is this here who checks on this. Is this okay It's not it's not no it's not like they have a zookeeper. I don't think i think some teenager to like showed. Yeah so what's going on with the With the abc show home economics. Where shooting right now. Shooting the second season right now. The first season earlier this year. We're moving very fast A premier september twenty second they. It's a fun family comedy and busy busy. Yeah yeah shooting the shooting that now. I just woke season two. Did they expand your role and woke. Are you an yeah It's very exciting. It's like I think the first season was really analyzing the main character's journey on becoming work and seeing more of what the world is and now i feel like we're analyzing how there's no right way to be woken and like everyone's ideology and how they how how they kind of present information or receive information in the world doesn't necessarily mean it's better than a different version or or yeah right better yeah real. Yeah yeah. i think it's cool. I think i'm really excited for the season. Well that's great. And they got the podcast. You're okay well. That's great that way. I saw bill. You did about working at disneyworld. Did you really work. I was a florida in florida. Disneyworld doing the disney college program so wasn't a performer. I walked on. Stilts did puppets. When was this. This is a antunes. Seven when i was still in college so it was like a semester and a summer. This was like you signed up for the disney college program. Yeah it was a what was what were you thinking when you did that. What would you think you would get out of that. I think i wanted some sort of like. i guess. Study abroad internship program. But it's not really never now. I just saw it and it was like that looks cool and i do like disney but it was a really fun experience and And i think it was also a way for me to be like. Oh i can work and perform. I just felt like something different than school. So you had to be on stilts i did. Yeah i still have a pair of stilts in my closet. I haven't been on any years. But yeah they teach walks on still for what for what reason just to the parade. I was in mickey's jaman jungle parade on still on stilts and you were also in a suit. Yeah that'd be a lizard porcupine which no one liked that costume. Oh no other big characters. I was friends with this. What you're supposed to say. Because he can't be like pluto pluto's pluto pluto I'm glad you still honoring the protocol. Disney products still work for disney and abc true. Yeah oh my god. Yeah not but you're in a different your friends with. Who's your character. denise we'll good Wearing the head as we're in the head pluto is fun because kids love pluto because the big old dog and they'd be like you remind me of my dog and i'd be like i'm on two legs though. I'm like six feet tall. There's no way. I remind. I kids all right. Yeah okay there okay. The i guess it's okay to be. Yeah you're in a puppet. But i would. It would be bad if you're in the puppet and he didn't really like. Oh yeah no. I liked entertaining the kids and also i interact with them for a second and then they look so happy then they run off and go with their parent. I don't have to see them again exactly. Yeah well it's great talking to you to What happens now go eat. I haven't really knew anything today. I don't think i did either. I worked out though. Did you work out. What do you do in the morning. It really varies. I worked out yesterday morning this morning. I talked to cova test for work. And then i meditated took the coveted. The you know. I had to go to the set. Which is there. yeah. I have them. Oh per oh nice. Bunch of boxes of yeah. The problem is like because. I go on the road so i just wanna make sure. I'm not the guy right. Reading have down tampa. When i get back but also i never feel great ever so. I don't know how many i'm going to go through. We have to manage them. Yeah do set. Do you do every three days. Yes okay every other day. Monday wednesday fridays. When we do it so you got negative test today and that's fun all right talk to you soon. That was to shears omega. Watch her on the abc. Show home economics fee. Who show woke and listen to our podcast. Best friends with nicole buyer Here's some tour. Dates will be at helium. In saint louis september sixteen seventeen and eighteen and i believe there are some tickets era. Saint louis i will be the neptune theatre in seattle washington on september. Twenty second i will be at the aladdin theatre On september twenty four two shows. I believe the seven. Pm show is sold out tickets. I believe available for the ten pm. Show the comedy attic in bloomington august september thirty october first and second. I believe this oh sorry. Dynasty typewriter. october. Fourth Eight pm. I don't know if that's all that dynasty typewriter. October tenth Apm that's probably not sold out new york city. The new york comedy festival at townhall november thirteenth. And there's also in largo date Somewhere in there. I'll get that to you later. Go to w. pod dot com slash tour for all of the tickets for the upcoming dates and now plays guitar with you dirty guitar with you to you to a phase shifter own A monkey is everywhere

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Chris Gethard

Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend

1:37:48 hr | 3 months ago

Chris Gethard

"Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another episode of alice. Greg what are you doing here. Hey what do you mean. What alison where you come. From brag i came from the world of childish. And i just wanna make sure that your listeners know you're just as wonderful on the on the podcast. What if they don't have kids donate donate them a lot of our listeners. Actually tell us they don't have kids. We talk about sex. We talk about all sorts of dirty stuff but also parenting. Yeah so the checkout childish new episodes every wednesday wherever you listen to podcasts aspirin. Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another episode of alison. Rosen is your new best friend. I'm alison rosen. It is very very hot in california and my guest who i will be introducing shortly wrote a piece about deciding to stay in new york despite everyone moving to la and reading. This made me. Think i really wish. I still lived in new york and it just ignited in me this loathing of my current life and on that happy note. I would like to check in with my producer. Tony facts then to see what's going on with him. Tony being hot puts me in the worst mood. You're doing great. I mean referring to your your life as what did you say that. I loathe my current life. Yes yes you loathing. Your life sounds great. I'm sure daniel and the kids are happy to hear that they would love that. Hey your life. I'm also happy to hear i. Hey i'm honest. And i just say what's on my mind. That's what everyone loves about me as i'm wiping sweat mustache off of my lip anyway. How are things tony. Things are all right Nothing too exciting going on. I had a couple of friends the i. I'm a little exhausted though. I had friends staying with me from boston. All we and they left today and it was great to see them as great to hang out. I hadn't seen him in a year and a half but I wasn't used to like being around people. Twenty four seven. Yeah and that's a lot anyways when you have people stay with you but it is. How many days did they stay with you. They were here got in late monday. Okay let me get so if greek has had a good time these music friends. Yeah yep naive. my friends. that the when i've left garnered played some weird wedding band. Gigs on the east coast. A couple of guys from that. Yeah so these are the guys who hook you up with your wedding gigs. Exactly nice lamey some some sweet money to play jesse's girl those kind of friends so tony. Do you want to hear my existential stuff or my stuff involving. I'm going to tell you about. I'll go existential okay. I just want that to be known. I hung out most exciting thing that happened in the pandemic. I made a new adult friend via this podcast. Marilyn rice cobb. I hung out with her last week. We got coffee. This is the third time we've gotten coffee now and it felt like it felt like the like make it or break it hang out because i was like either. We're gonna realize we had enough small talk even though it feel. It's deeper than that but like we had enough steam to carry us through. Two coffees or were our friendship is going to deepen and like it. Was i mean we practically shut that place down in the middle of the day even though they're open for definitely like seven hours but i mean other people came and laughed and we were still. They're still talking. I feel like we are real true. Bff's but i said something to her. what'd you say. Oh i just said congrats thank you thank you. I said something to her. That i didn't know what her reaction was going to be. But sh but. I shared that i was thinking that morning. What i really crave and what i would really like in a social media feed is just nonstop posts from people who have achieved the things that i want to achieve explaining how. They're still unhappy. And i thought she was just going to be like. Oh that's that's depressing. You know but instead she really honed it on it and related and then we just talked about like. Is anyone how i mean. it sounds. It sounds depressing as how but it really wasn't because we both kind of felt this way and those conversation of like is anyone happy like truly happy and who mostly in the realm of entertainment though so we were just like i was just naming all these big people and we were like. Are they happy. Are they happy. Most of them are. There might be a couple who are well. I mean peek behind the curtain. Our guest that's waiting today. He's we heard it straight from his mouth. He's a happy yes yes he did. He did say when we had some small talk before we brought him in. He did say he was happy. But i feel like that was the sort of. He's probably good mood now. But the longer we have him i think we can dismantle that spirit and then the other thing is tony. There's new poop outside my studio. I don't know what animal it's from it is unidentified poop it's sort of like an inch long and it's a cylindrical. I want to say it's a bird. But i don't know i think it's a but what kind of bird leaving these. It doesn't coil like a bird poop you'd expect. Look i had a cockatiel cockatiel as a kid and i've had ducks and chickens this is different than the bird. I've seen yet still. It's not it's not a cockatiel ducker chicken correct that off the list correct the the pattern like the poop. Ballistics of it makes me think it could be a bird though. 'cause i feel like it's dropping from up high. Oh you know what though other. What's the squirrel poop. Look like i'm wondering because it could be like a squirrel on the roof. Pooping i why do i feel like you've literally asked that question on the show before it seems very familiar. All my content is fresh and new listeners. What poop content. Tony don't undermine me. Okay no i think i have. I think i have. Because i think jackie johnson talked about there being like a lot of squirrel pope in her yard and i was like. How do you even know what that looks like. She's my first call when we end this show i. I don't know what it is. I hope it's rap poop. I don't think it is no offense to my rat loving listeners. I don't know it's just. It's there's something unusual about it. I think it's poop with a story to tell speaking of people with a story to tell very excited introduce my next guess. Is someone that. I have been wanting to have on the show for a really long time. So i'm excited that it is finally happening. He's a comedian. A writer and actor a dad. He host the beloved long running. Podcast beautiful anonymous where he talks to random people anonymous people they call in and the rules are no names. He can't hang up no-holds-barred. It's a really good idea. It's a really good show. He has also hosted. Well this is just going to say. I like to say a bunch of words and then reveal who it is but the name of his talk show will reveal who it is. He hosted the talk. Show the. Chris gathered which i believe started as a public access shows. We will definitely get into that. He also did the one man. Why does one man show sound wrong to me. For some reason my ears are used to one woman show. What's going on the one manch what you're fine. I'm melting down tony. I these words sound right to he and you got a thumbs up. Romeyer on non speaking guest did you. You know in your computer fan starts going. Oh something's happening here That's my brain. My brain fan is going. The one man show currier suicide critic very critically acclaimed and now he has a comedy special slash touring documentary out called half my life. Please put your hands together for. Chris gathered hello. That was so nice. And i'm loving this vibe. A half to say oh. Good move to new jersey though i to new jersey. Okay when you wrote the piece. The funny thing is okay so it was in vulture part of new york magazine. Yeah when i read it. I just i. Because so many people have moved around during the pandemic i assumed it was pandemic related and then i realized oh this has there's been no mention the pandemic and everybody's it was twenty sixteen so you are in new york city at the time you wrote it though. Yeah and i still love new york city. I've stuck to the northeast. I grew up in jersey back here. We had a kid and you know you need space so we said let's go to jersey but i remember the thing 'cause i'm not an la hater. This article is not like i hate. La the main thing people responded to. I remember like my l. a. friend who spent time to new york. I pointed out like at three thirty in the morning. I can walk out my house and eventually will pass a deli where i can get someone to make a turkey sandwich for me Three thirty and that was the thing on my friends. Were like i miss that in particular that i felt like okay. That's that's a cool new york but anyway so much to respond to. You made an interesting just to to to dive right in. Even though there's just. I read into the deep stuff. Although there's other light stuff i do want to ask you about you. Made a point in that story that everyone is like you could have so much success if you came to l. a. like there's all these career opportunities that aren't on the east coast and you're like but i don't know that career success equals happiness for me like happiness is the goal as opposed to happiness via career success. Can you talk a little bit more about that. Because that is like directly correlated. To what i was saying. Yeah yeah as you were saying that stuff and then don't let me forget to. There's a thing that you need to know about. What's happening here. And i get the sense. You might not know what's happening. So after i answered this question just make sure and you could see tony and i both grinning But yes i have had some career success so you know. There's a thing that you don't know about this happened. Great everybody well. Let me just put out here that you don't know this. This is the first. I'm tony and i have spoken but we have had a bromance going for like two years. Now yes i didn't. I mean nervous. I got kinda nervous. I've got ink. Well then let me tell you so. Tony received an email from publicist asking if we would be interested in having you on the show and tony forwarded it to me and i was like yes. I've been wanting him on the show for a while. And then tony's ben cited ever since like more than usual. I'll tell you what when bizarre albums came out. I found it and my friend. Mikey erg forwarded to me and it's like this is your dream show. And i started listening right away and i loved it so much that i did a thing that i often him too. Shy do where i said. I'm just going to message this person. Say how much. I like it. So i went on twitter and realize that we followed each other. Oh nine i d m tony and then realize that years earlier you had done the same thing for me about together and i never answered which made me feel like a real dick. And that's why we brought you on the show finally confronted. What it to be fair. I'm pretty horrific at social media. So you're fine. I- legit think. I missed it but you had sent me a nice artists artists message about the public access show. I think i don't know if it was on cable at that point. Yeah i think it was. The i'd never saw till the cable version but yeah so then it liked it a lot i real and then i was like this is coming up totally organically like a. I love your show be. I'm just seeing your message from a few years ago. And then we've always kind of sort of like kept in touch and flitting ways and i feel nervous because i feel like every once in a while in this extremely isolated and lonely industry which first of all we're not coal miners. We don't we're not getting you know no we haven't hard. Yeah sure i do. Because i do. I do feel like sometimes. I stress about this and i just want to be fair. Like i'm not being sent into caves and being paid in scrip that i can only spend at the company store like i know that overall easy blessed life and i am very happy person but yes every once in a blue moon in this isolating bizarre industry where you cobble together your mortgage in pray that you can provide your family health insurance. You meet someone where you go have a feeling we might be friends. And i felt that with tony and now here. We are speaking for the first time. I don't want to derail it with some sort of love fest. Now that's a real thing. You guys very flattered. I felt the same way. So he you. Guys are regular me and maryland rice cub. Let me inspiration. we can do it. Tony you played it so close to the vest because you and i talk all the time not just about poop and like insects. That might see in my bathroom. Which by the way. It's been insect free for a while. Now why didn't you tell me anything about how you and chris have this bromance. The hoped-for romance. I was trying to go for the ola. Save it for the show kind of thing. I thought That's gonna come up right. what's that you knew. it would come up. I thought it might. We're would it be. If i just answered all the questions and never mentioned we've also talked about working on stuff together. A little bit of egli might just never mentioned that. That would have made you feel weird. You know it's i asked leading. It's often very again. It's all been very nice. I was. I was very flattered when i got the message from you. Yeah because it's always nice to get messages like that and then when it was like from a guy don't actually know and like it was you know that's very exciting. Thank you. I love a good castle. Please thank you know and it makes me think of. I don't know if you guys are going to relate to this or not this kind of a fee. And then i'm like uncomfortable with this specifically gendered language however what i was gonna say. It's kind of a female experience. But maybe not when. I was younger when like you would hook up with a guy and then see him somewhere and he would act like nothing had happened. That is the would be what it'd be like if you came on the show and then did not acknowledge the intimacy that you tony have and i would say intimacy is what you have. I would say yes. There's a level there's a level of interaction that has occurred never in spoken form that qualifies as i would say the lowest level of intimacy Person i would say. I would say i feel like i know you a little bit and we're talking for the first time right now what i would say. And he for sherefield. I'm not talking to you tony. He for sure feels like he knows you from your show. See it now. I feel like he's now. I feel like i'm for okay. I'm gonna get very real. I feel like i'm pouring my heart out. And now. I feel like tony's playing it close to the vest and i can sense that and it's making me feel very emotionally exposed and vulnerable. Tony is again tony. Let me talk to you tony. Taking i'm gonna put you on the spot in a moment. Tony is he can kinda be a man of few words. I don't know if you nervous about. I'm going to get very real for tony. Tony hope is okay tony through. It's going through. What a divorce. Divorce a couple of years ago and he talked about it on the show and he opened up about it and just the response of the listener as overwhelming. Like they appreciate it so much that he had gotten so real and talked about it but it was very different than how he normally is man of few words. Well i feel like again. I feel like. I'm here to do a job i ate. I know i'm part of the show. But like really i feel like i'm you know that's not the main reason i'm here so i mostly you know. Try to let you in the guest go well. That's very considerate of you. But i think. Chris needs a big gesture right now from you i genuinely say i mean as as he said. I wrote to him to him years ago when i had I watched his the cable show. And then i really was like i like he said I was like I feel like if we knew each other. I feel like we would be friends. It seems like we have a lot of things in common and And yeah from there. Then i got more into like i really loved his. Hbo special. I just watched his recent new special the other night. And it's all great big big fan. So yes you answer your success. Yeah no. I have no belief that professional success leads to any sort of lasting happiness. Anyway back around is that did you ever think it might. I still fall into the trap. Of thinking at my. You know i. It's a constant thing that i have to think about with because my mental health. I had to had to disassociate the idea for fish professional success giving it to me it could be a piece of it could be a motivator can be that dopamine kick that helps day to day but Now i'm in a split a place where every is is rather sad. That needs some correcting where i am. Now i've now myself. That career positives are going to get me success. So i don't necessarily buy into. But i will still let the negatives drag me down and i have. I have to find that balance. Like if i'm not gonna give myself the positive. I have to learn how to regulate the negative the because i i have had some real struggles. my pandemic mental health struggles with. I think everybody had and especially people who had dealt with stuff like that before all this. I anybody who didn't fall back into god. Bless your strong. I almost wound up in a mental hospital. At one point during the pandemic i'll say it And a big part of it. Because i was having a lot of obsessive thoughts about some negative career stuff and yet the positive stuff. I've learned to blunt that and that's an over correction but for me. I i once witnessed the conversation. I was a fly on the wall for conversation. That actually gave me so much freedom. Because i was. I came up at the upright citizens Theater new york. I started there twenty one years ago when it was like just a shutdown strip club that reopened as the comedy theater and then it became this success factory in now. It's closed in new york. I kind of. I think like its success. Got so big. That it capsized. You know But i was there as that built. And i was very lucky and i was once in the green room of that theater and this was before anything had happened for me in my career and i got to a show early and two other guys in the show were in like aside room and they didn't know anybody else was there and i wasn't eavesdropping. They were different room with the door semi closed and i didn't you know like i just overheard it wasn't china and here one of them going like yeah. I don't know. Should i move my family out to new york because if the job goes away i'll have to go out to la again. And i don't want my kids to switch schools and then to switch back in that but then what am i gonna not see them if it goes well and the other guys going yeah. I'm worried i'm gonna get fired. And you know it's not guaranteed that you're gonna get other stuff shows movies. Not everybody does. And i'm listening to these people on my jaw dropped because one of them was at the time a correspondent on the daily show. The other was at the time in the middle of super long. Run on snl. And i'm sitting there in the green room of of a theater. That's like a comedy theater where things are starting to happen for people and what. I've seen friends of mine move on and even like people. I taught in improv classes. Starting to show up on sitcoms and stuff and i was later came without exaggeration. I can tell you that. I later came to find out. Once things did move for me. I had people tell me to my face that i was kind of a cautionary tale. That people were like if it's not happening for like that guy's really good and if it's not happening for him why should we bother like i was the said example. It doesn't happen for everybody. That's true but i remember witnessing that conversation and i found it extraordinarily freeing. Because i was like i sit here and stress about why i can't get a job and i think about being a correspondent the correspondent of the daily show. I think about working. Snl because those are the jobs that i want to get to take all my problems away. But i'm listening to these guys. Just say their version. Of exactly what i feel now and that kind of gave me this like secret weapon as i did. Start to move because a as as things kind of went their courses me. I felt a lot of freedom to do stuff that was advised. Because i knew it would make me happier. And that sometimes has worked sometimes. Hasn't and be a kind of knew. The jig was up a little bit on this idea. That success was gonna make me happy. Because i kind of was braced for an approved very true. That conversation told me okay. Like you're just fucked up and you're going to remain fucked up and in fact when you get to a bigger level. The stresses might just like amplify as much as the level is and and that proved true. When i had my talk show as it got to cable you know what to a small cable network and then a big one and and the stress just got bigger each time and sadly by the end of the joint away. And i'm really mad about that but yeah like getting the. Hbo special really cool. That's a feather in the cap for anybody who ever try. Stand up the same time. It also put this like magnifying glass on me that i was not in love with and back magnifying glass of the press or just of increased awareness of you. I a two fold thing. One was the increased recognition. Like i'm not built for it. You know and like things have slowed down me the past few years. And i've been kind of okay with that. And i haven't really felt the need to get out there scramble to regain the momentum ahead and twenty sixteen seventeen eighteen because like. I had an incident where i was eating diner in new york and my phone told me i had been tagged in a picture on facebook and when i opened. It was a picture of me eating dinner while i was still there and it was somebody like a fan page of my tv show going. Let's guess what he's eating and and you know there was one time i was with my wife on the train platform in somebody on the platform just started going gathered together. Gathered gathered like this monotone. Voice 'cause they want it to turn want me to turn around to see if it was me. And i get that. That's a thing people do and i get that when you sign up for public life. That's the type of thing that happens. But i'm also someone who was once on pretty serious antipsychotic for paranoid thoughts so like have someone taking clandestine photos of me. My shrink had to walk me off. The legend was like no. It's okay to be freaked out. 'cause it's real she's like you're all freaked out because you're scared. Someone took a photo of you. But she's like it's reminding you of what it felt like to not have a grip on reality but now it's reality so it's okay and that was very freeing interesting but i'm not built for in specifically the hbo special talking about suicide and talking about depression. I felt i feel like it helped a lot of people and i'm really proud of it and i stand by it and i think it's funny. I worked hard on it. It also means to a lot of people. I'm gonna be like the depression guy forever and it also means sometimes like i'm going to go on the road and then people are gonna come up to me after the show and they're gonna wanna tell me about the time. They tried to kill themselves and like is super sad. And it means the world to me that people are telling me that 'cause go and you made a thing that made me feel less alone in that also means sometimes like like you know i'm not the only one on the call who lives the road. Lifelike also sometimes means like i go to a hotel room in georgia and sit around all night and think about it. Because i don't know anybody in this town. And i don't really know what to do and i don't travel with a band like i don't have a built in sometimes. It's just me. I go and i sit and i get message social media so there's responsibilities and pressures that you take on there's also parts of yourself you give away by living publicly and by making things publicly and i was really braced for that. So in fact success can sometimes bring about some fear and some sadness as part of the package to as much as they bring happiness. I don't know. I could talk all day about set. It's really interesting so then. Is there like the idea that if that happens. I'll be happy like are you. You don't have any of that. No i don't buy personally. You're you're right. I mean you see it clearly because the goal line keeps moving like that. That's an illusion. But i often like tempted by that illusion. It makes life easier that i cannot deny. I'm not going to promote a mixed later. Yeah i'm not gonna pretend like making a bunch of money in because i had a. I had an stretch where my cable show is on and my hbo special. And i got a book deal. My podcast blew up all in the same eighteen months so all of a sudden had money for the first time. I'm going to claim light. Didn't get easier. Then there's also the gross side of it too which is like when people get famous all of a sudden you get like free sneakers. I'm wearing these beats by dre headphones that someone just gave me because i was on. Tv you know like i you know these are orange because they were in like a gift bag that conan gave me when i did his show. He gives good gift bags by the way. But it's like you start to get like free shit and access southern like makes life easier. But doesn't it doesn't fix whatever's broken in your soul That's how you wind up like so many tragic tales right. That's also why there's so many people who not. I'm not gonna name names but like people who i came up with who we started around the same time who i think walked a much easier path Be it because of locker because they're more talented than i am in both cases. That's true. sometimes. I've seen those people become very well. Adjusted and happy with success is some people who have seen become remarkably more Shitty as people from being honest. So right i don't wanna fall into it so i'd rather just try to fix my problems in a real way. You said that you almost ended up in a mental hospital during the pandemic. Yeah what happened. I so i should also mention. I have a two year old son. Yes which is the best thing that's ever having to me but also means like i haven't slept in years and there's a lot of pressure with that. Yeah and we moved to a new house. We bought our house before the pandemic And then the pandemic happened in our house if anybody read about elmhurst hospital in queens The new york times had done an expose were some nurses smuggled footage out to show how awful it was when the dialogue was still that covert was just a flu and they started calling. Jackson heights. And elmhurst queens. The epicenter of the epicenter. If you took a right out of my front door of my building in queens and walked two avenues you were at the front door of that hospital us. You're in the epicenter of the there are building told us we couldn't move We were. They didn't movers in the building and it was a co op so they can make laws. Yeah so we had to find a place to go round. Play throwing my kid in the car. Dragging him out of the crib at eleven at night like packing a car all day with as much as we can only home he'd ever known carseat he never saw it again. We're living in the mountains for few months fighting with a co op. Board finally got to the house. Now i've got to figure out how to you know everything's broken in the house. Everything's expensive and i'm not making money. And we got a two year olds rates through the lot in others a lot and then My stress just kind of boiled over much gesture kind of boiled over and my wife. And i got an argument again and i'm not blaming her. A thing that happens when you have a toddler running around let alone. You're like oh plus every dollar. I make on. The road went away and all our expenses increase and survival fear. Oh yeah and we just like fled the worst neighborhood in america's far as like four people in the building i lived in died like following died in my building in my building off so there is a lot just a lot of pressure and My wife and i got in this argument. And i realized oh. This argument is coming purely. Because i'm slipping hard and then you know for those of us who have those thoughts when you realize that you go shit This you know this got away from me. You know when you're like in an argument and you hear yourself saying something you're going. Oh no this has nothing to do with my wife or what. We're talking about this. Because i slipped and i didn't see in time and now i'm losing it and then i kinda lost. It slipped in terms of like anxiety of cds. Stuff coming up yeah. I was having a lot of obsessive thoughts. And i should have been raising a red flag to my shrink about that. There were like. I was saying before that. I'll let the negative drag me down. There were a couple incidents where some people in the comedy world. It kind of became in vogue to take some potshots at me. Oh tony did you know about this. Tony was thrown. Who did it. It's why we first dmt. he called. He called me about. This is really weird. He used a bunch of like slurs but none of them apply to my actual background. It was really weird. He's like making no. It was not. It was not sweet. Tony thaksin it's just people kind of making fun of the fact that i'd done like the email stuff with my comedy or but like i would listen to it and they'd like like someone like naming my name someone saying like another comedian saying if you're a fan of comedy. How could you ever like chris. Gather like saying it. That blatantly is. I know you don't want to say i don't want to even go into like that. 'cause their fan base has just come me and people use it as an excuse to open up more but the real problem was i couldn't get it out of my head. Yeah did you think this had you thought of this person. Has a friend happened. There were three different people who happened with all kind of from the same scene. One of them was someone i had been closed with and we kind of were definitely already weren't as close as we used to be in. I thought we actually had been very tight for awhile. And that's somebody who actually that one. I go well. I think he had some gripes with me. And i think i wish we had not settled it publicly not settled. I wish he had aired out publicly but he kind of felt like i had done some stuff to him. At least i can see why he's mad a couple. The other two people have literally never met before since So the the smart thing is to go. Don't care these are people you've never met. These are people who haven't done as you know. Having put in the years you have done as much as you have and but it was much easier said than done. And if it had been the pandemic i'd be able to just go on stage and go schedule. Some stand shows. Go up there. Click with an audience. Click with the crowd get my last feel their energy. Let them feel mine. And that kind of centers resets you. 'cause that's what it's all about it the day but instead i didn't have the outlet so i'm sitting here going man to all my peers. Hate me are. They're all these people make if they're the ones making fun publicly. I can't imagine how bad it is behind. Closed doors can also the people who which ninety percent is not true. You'd i'm sure there. Are everybody talks shit about everybody in the arts right. Not everybody to like me. But i'm sitting here going man like plus there. I had a lot of these feelings of i'm going to have just really air it out. I had a lot of obsessive thoughts about like men. I'm not even really hearing from friends like this was a thing that was like being written up in a lot of places. Had i miss all this you you know i mean the honest youth is i was a very small piece of a larger thing that you didn't miss but we're not Be looking this up after. Us we'll talk about it. I was a very very small piece of a thing and the more important of a person got canceled for saying some stuff. A comedian got cancelled. You're saying some stuff. I actually think. I might back then in the course of it. They also called me homophobic names for my hbo special. They said i was the f. Word for making something that was sad. And then i heard the audio and it actually was about twenty minutes of them. Ragging on me. I was going. Who is this person and initially. I handled it well. But then i think the nature of the pandemic being so stressed out being in my head. I mean i wake up. And mike before i even a breakfast. I'd be sitting there going. Oh man. I wonder if this person is owen. How come these people. I thought were. My friends did get my back. And then i'll be to be mocked for vulnerability is a imagine a very shitty feeling the best the best right and i've been box for a lot of things in my life. That's the thing normally. I can handle it and i had a lot of friends where i'd go and then you sit there. You have the paranoid thoughts right. This is where it got really bad. Have these paranoid thoughts going man. You know like there's a lot of friends. I didn't hear from but when i had a tv show. And i was able to hire a writing staff. I bet i would have been hearing from all these comedians having my back again. Not a true thought yet. Not 'cause then. I'd run into people in express some versions of that and they'd go. I a friend of mine was super sweet and went. You're the one who always gets back when it comes to new york comedians. They were like you're the one who always protects the younger set by none of us. Think of you as a guy who needs help let alone from people who haven't like bright done as much stuff as you have. So i'm sitting here. I look back now. I realize oh. These were very obsessive thoughts. These were thoughts that were not in line with reality. And when i when. I say like i would wake up and start thinking about stuff or at mow the lawn and the entire time i was out there be going. Should i text. This person should do this. Should i call this person all day. Every day from a couple of months and then i just broke and Looked up the nearest mental hospital said to my wife i might take trip and it was a weekend a weekend night and i emailed my shrink and said hey i think i i think i might. I need your advice. On if i should be heading into Is this barb from your special. it is. I'm still with barb. And barb as she as she did at the end of the special once again she She called me right away. It was like. I think it was like a sunday like nine thirty. Pm she got on the phone talk to me and after like ten minutes was like we're gonna stay on the phone she's like i don't think you need to go to a hospital. She's like i think. I think if you and i just stay on the phone tonight for a while we'll get to a place where that's not necessarily and it's just so much paperwork and they might not let you back out so it's ac- and i'll be honest with you so there was rough. It was rough. But again. I i also want to say too. I hope it's clear at this stage in history that like. I'm not saying like people talk shit about me and it broke me. I'm saying like it became a flashpoint where i started swelling and stuff and i've since like switched medications and it stopped two days later so i think i actually probably Medications that were no longer having an effect right and then these thoughts became the very intrusive thoughts that just sent me to a woefully insecure place. And that you know that feeling of loneliness that can come about that. Is the real killer. Like depression stinks. But it's when it it's when it morphs into that like extreme laziness. That's when you start to feel like um in we're like. Oh god i'm like i feel so lonely and that's when you're mowing the lawn and you're like he just talk and hang myself and then you're like what what did i just think. I heard myself think that that's not good. That's not good and then you're like scared. Are you able to like. Is your wife a source of comfort when you're feeling super alone isolated. Yeah yeah she is. And i think we have a really good thing going of She will kinda asked me if things are okay. And i'm i feel very very free to just tell her like no. I'm having i'm having a week. We're not making sense and she's really respectful to like you know. Is there anything i can do. When i'm like not really i'll just try to steadily and if i'm being a little weird let me be weird affiliate. I promise you good about that. But i think during that stretch in particular there was so much other stuff going on with between moving and the baby and how you know getting reports from our old neighbors that another person in our bill. I mean like i'm telling you like war. Four people in our building in queens died. And i remember. We're still in the building. Email this they go. Hey just so. Everybody knows like all the building services we were in like. We were in like a queens call up but they all have like a super and like all. The buildings in queens in jackson heights have like yet you're super and you have a couple of porters and like getting an email because you're stolen us. Hey you know none of the building services are gonna be there all suspended because every member of our staff has kovic like she every sitting there going like that. So i think i had. I had kind of clammed up and it had gotten dark enough. That i wasn't i i was. I was feet my. We were both going through enough. That i felt like i needed to shoulder the load a little bit more than not burden my wife because she stressed out and then i think i was shutting her out a little bit because i was in denial. Things were getting as bad as they were. And then that hit the fan That the fan. So i kind of cut off her ability to be a support system. She's actually really extremely good at being. So i didn't expect this one to get so real. Thought me tony. We're gonna be buddies instead. He's watching me silent while i talk about wanting to hang myself while i'm on my lawn. Think he's judging you classic. I've never i've rarely. I haven't felt this judge sin. Someone called me homophobic name publicly tony. I didn't invite you on this podcast to make people feel small you guys. I'm feeling ganged up on right now. I didn't even know that there were bad. Words for greek people until tony saxton started tweeting. The mattock actually my grandparents were irish. Doesn't care truth truthfully. I've just i identify a little too closely with everything you're saying really is so. I'm just listening and identifying kinda you gotta gas lawnmower or looking. Listen both of you. Alison rosen's union. Best friend is sponsored by online therapy as we begin to see light at the end of the kovic tunnel are still feeling down and emotionally out of sorts. I know i am. I feel real weird. You may not feel depressed or at a total loss. 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Visit embark vet dot com and use promo code best friend to save fifty dollars today. So chris when. I joked that there's something going on that you don't know about what i was going to say is i. Actually i used to play in a band and we played with hissy. Fits your wife's former band years ago. So i've actually met her before. Jaw dropped yes. I also have to say to that. This time i've been sitting here feeling like you. And i have met. I don't know if that's possible that we have hissy fits. Era was before you were with your wife. 'cause yes and i lived in new york until twenty ten and then i moved back but i did go to. Ucsb sometimes around their starting in two thousand. 'cause i as we've been speaking i've been going. This will come to. But that's why because a lot of people know my wife from a band called the unlovable 's right. And i actually. So i know the way i knew the hissy fits was. I knew savan. Because i used to work at the. Oc weekly on and hallier still best friends. I love that. Please tell them. I say hi and then you must karen as well of course. Yeah so. I knew that is getting dinner with savant and karen tomorrow night amazing. Please tell them what you them. From the hissy fits. Yeah so i. I worked at the. Oc weekly when i lived in orange county california and savan was i think she was doing. She was like eighteen years old and she was doing something at the glass house. She was somehow involved with promote with working at the glass house and she had reached out to me. I think about covering the glass house and then my band. I realize this sounds sounds suspect but also separately. It was not connected. My band played the glasshouse. And then i don't know how that turned into maybe just the hissy fits. We're doing a show at l. a. And we all think it was at the alligator lounge. We did a show with them. And then i moved to new york in two thousand two. And i stayed in touch with simone and like i met her whole crew to be decide. Yes yeah that's the whole thing. Wait that that was before she had beside was her bar right beside savant owned and my understanding was that there was a stretch in like new york music history. Where like if you were a music fan. That's where you were hanging out of the bands coming through town. Hang out and i still i will. I will still on the regular meet people from all over the new york like comedians all sorts of people who will come up to me out of the moon go like you know highly right like you're married to halley like. Yeah they're like so. That means you know savant. I used to hang out to be set. Like decide was like savant was like the center of a high now. I was very impressed. Like how did she. How did she do this. How did she open up a bar. How was she working at a club when she was eighteen etc. When i first moved that that was pre side I'm trying to think where we hung out and do you know that banned. The spicier is ax. I do not okay. So savant boyfriend was in a band called the spicy rezaq's and they were also comic book. Hollywood no them. Yeah sure. And i bet i have met. This boyfriend to his name was josh. Oh yeah yeah yes. Indeed we people. Is he the josh who is great looking. He was quite attractive. Yes there is a josh in their influence. Who i know has played. And i think he might have played into manner with them later to. Oh maybe wait. That might be this. Josh is josh bernstein. That was his name. He i think he did magazine stuff and graphic design. Now you might be able to tell me because every story how has about the hissy fits the hissy fits. Were this band in new york. I think like was a part of the scene had is on them but it sounds like their shows were crazy. I don't recall being like crazy hissy fit show. They have stories about that band. And i'm not trying to out anybody in those are my stories but holly hissy fit was the front person of the and they were all quite young and it's It sounds to me like like it's it's like a screenplay about a band i would. I would say like stories about people who were like going for it but you know like nobody nobody. There's no cut and dried away to go for it as an artist So a lot of stories about like winding up on like a european tour and then realize what was what like halley. I think she was just telling me the other day. A story about how they were on tour in europe and she's just reminded me last night like stories like this like they were on a tour in europe and they were in england and one of the members of the hissy fits thought. There was a ferry from england to amsterdam. And i guess there isn't or at that time there wasn't so then they had to figure out what we have a show tomorrow and amsterdam and all our gear and we thought there was a boat that was going to get us there. And there's just not. How do you get to amsterdam and this was also way before. Gps for smartphones and way before the things that makes it easy so it's just like just four four female artists in england kind of realizing in the moment. Oh we have to leave right now. I don't know where we're going or how to get there. Let's go like a lot of stories like that. Which fits i forgot that. They had done international touring. That's they went for it. And then howie. When halley his yvette she founded a band called the levels which is one of the big nra pop bunk beds and i was a very big fan of the unlovable. They owned their albums. Had their leary's memorized like lake this band. So when when we wound up eventually getting together hours. I was flabbergasted because it was it it really was like wild. How did you guys meet. Well i started doing. The chris gathered show at the theatre. We would do it once a month and one saturday at midnight and it very quickly like. I was just a pretty angry person. I still had a lot of stuff to sort out. But i was experienced enough on stage that it just really quickly became clear of like. Oh this show is like it was a hot show like. I don't want to sound arrogant but it was like you couldn't get a ticket. They'd put it on sale. It would sell out that day. Two hundred whatever was that before it was a public access show. Yeah so it started just as a live show at ucd. Yeah i had been going for like a decade along the way. I did some stuff that we're just kinda like like experimental or performance already and and then i asked the artistic director there if i could host a talk show and he was like everybody's always pitching talk shows. He's like i don't want you to just like put on a suit and do like topical jokes and people at a desk. He's like everybody. There's so many of those he's like. What if i gave you a talk show. But that's where you try to focus in all the weird shit that you've been doing and he said to me you know you should call it the third show. Because i had done. I had done a few just really strange events that that got like talked about a lot and then i'd be kind of embarrassed about them and go back to like improv. And he's like no people like those people talk about being embarrassed about them and then walk sorry to stop you but when you say embarrassed why why why did you feel embarrassed just because it was stuff such an outlier and it took me a long for a guy who came up in the punk rock scene. It took a little too long to figure out that like not not being able to. I felt like they would maybe like one of them. Was like a show where i organized boxing matches between different comedians. The theater wouldn't let us do it there. So then we film them and screened them and we people are like betting on them and this was in two thousand six or so and like amy poehler came to the show she owned the theater and i was like. Oh my god. This is the first thing she's ever seen me do. i'm really. I'm good at improv. And i'm good at sketching. So i'm sitting there going. I don't want these people knowing that the i don't want them to think the weird thing is the thing i've known for. Its such backwards thinking. Right on mike. I shouldn't be like they came out because this is interesting. Yeah i shouldn't go. Oh my god. This is what i'm known for. I should go. This is what i'm fucking known. Wait to onto realize that but the show would sell out now. There is a band called the kung fu monkeys as big fan of and i had met james from the kung fu monkeys a couple of times when he lived in los angeles we had a mutual friend and he moved to new york and i reached out to him on a. Whim didn't on that well. And i was like putting his talk show needs a house band. Is there any way you would do it. And he was just kind of bored and was like sure and he assembled like a bunch of the new york pop punk scene stirs and they were playing in the band. And the james spurs at james hill. His name And a lot of stuff on mutant pop records if you remember them back in the day and the bullet points are james. Had to leave the band because he got a job in canada The band needed new singer. Meanwhile halley was in a show called flares abruzzo. Which was this like ariel theater show. That was very popular in new york. She would come and watch my show after her shows on on saturday because she liked it and the band would sneaker and she'd like text mike york who's ban or or bill florio or johnny. They'd sneaker in because you couldn't get tickets and she says that the first time we ever spoke there was one night where the show through a turn of events. I wound up hosting naked and like naked. Cupping my my my my my my pena's and my balls and turned around realized she was sitting behind. Mike mikey's drum set with him because they snuck him in and i did a double take realized. It was halley unlovable and i just went ono. You're here that was like the first time we spoke which she's quite charmed by. She was like a fan of the show. And it'd be becoming because it was like which meant a lot to that. Other artists are coming out to see it. But then when james left the show she had recently had a pretty catastrophic injury with her back performing in her aerial show. So they were like. Would you want to write songs. And she was i. Yes i need something to do Bad so when we switched to public access. She became the bandleader and still scared to talk to her for months. We eventually did a roadshow in north carolina in like twenty of us all went down. We rented two vans in the van. We we got to talk. And i finally was terrified of her. But that's how we got together. It was kinda mutual fans. I'd put out a new levels album like after we got together. A bunch of songs were about me which is every pop punk nerds fantasy. Like if you love a pop punk ben fronted by someone who's of the ilk of the person you're attracted to you have a fantasy of someone writing songs like that about you. I'm not happen to me. It was the best the best. that's cool. I didn't realize that like she was. She was part of the band. Before you guys got together that's really. Yeah yeah we we got together. When we the public access started in twenty eleven and june of twenty eleven we went to public access. And she and i. I made out october of twenty twelve. So it's like a year and a half what made you decide to go public access. And how was it. You'll like this. From what i can tell. This is up your alley. So we're doing the 'gether shown it's like this hot show at uc. And then i'm getting a lot of attention from largely because i got p. Diddy on twitter to agree to come do the show amazing and then he kept not doing it. So that's part of why it would sell as everybody was like. What if this is the month that did he shows up so it was just. Everybody wanted to be the case. That happened so there was all this like all of a sudden. There's a lot on my name more than there ever bed. And i wound up getting cast as the lead in a sitcom taking over for john heater. Who played in napoleon dynamite big lake. Yes big lake and it it. Bombed hard Ten episodes kind of disaster made more money than ever made in my life but it was just the disaster. But i had quit like i couldn't. I didn't have the energy to stand up anymore or the friday night. Show you see. Be the sunday night show. These things i've been doing fears quit everything. But i was like i gotta keep the show going. 'cause that shows like so fucked up in strange but that's my show like have you want my sense of humor. It's that so. I kept it going. Even i was like i don't want to end it before. Did he comes. And then big lake bombs. It was really hard. Some of the reviews are mean to me. Meanwhile took over like this other guy left the show. I it was within a week of me. Being cast that were filming our first episodes. I'm just like in the and when those reviews came out. Like i wasn't hurt that that was shellshocked but i remember having this feeling of like the. That's what i fucking do man. I don't even watch sitcoms like And how am i gonna sit around and be said and a lot of it went back to like my music like you know. You both are musicians. And i'm sure you know like i'm not trying to sound like a tough. This will sound tougher than i mean. I think you'll know what i mean like. North jersey punk kids. I think are kind of specific breed of plunkett to. I've just like we feel like nobody believes in us. We're not new york. Were not philly. So we just kind of do our own things in fucking basements in new brunswick and american legion halls. That kids rent and put on their own shows and we go and fucking do it ourselves because fuck you. No one cares about us anyway and that is similar to long island punk. Oh i think very similar being close being that close to new york city kind of cast aside. Everybody thinks we're kinda like trash. Everybody makes fun of us. So we'll just go to our own shit and then every once in a while somebody will break out here and it'll be the best thing you know what i mean like. You'll all fucking love. Titus andronicus one year you'll all love screaming females. You'll all love the front like every few years. There's a band everybody loves in its jersey because you put this chip on our shoulder and give us no option except to just like do unique shit harder than you know how to like. That's kind of how i grew up in. I was reading these reviews about this sitcom in my agents. Were like let's get you to l. a. Right now because even though this one didn't go well like now you're high people are gonna take you serious. You can get in the door a lot of places. I was like fuck that. I want to do my show. They really no one's buying that show dude. It's like insane and violent dark. I don't care l. La now so. I can get on another shitty sitcom mike. What will that give me besides money. Nothing you know and this money is not making me happy. And like it's making like i said makes it. Easier is not making me happier man and right in that same window did he came and did the show and now he's finally did. That's amazing. did this show in january of twenty yet so that actually i'll tell you i give him a lot of credit in my career because i was like these motherfuckers can shit on me. All they want. I know did he's gonna come and he's got help and it really help then. It gave me this thing that kept people feeling like i was doing. Cool stuff to sean. Wasn't i didn't really have the time or need to lick my wounds that much. Because i still have the coolest show in new york comedy right now you know so that helps obviously and then after ditty that was like in the new york times like the source magazine hopper razzi outside the uc theater and everything about that night was insane and he was like lovely and charming but also just a cartoon man all sorts of things about that. But yeah a guy who. I had used to teach improv. Classes who i now played basketball with. He was talking to me one day and he's like do you know i work at the new york public access studio at is i. I didn't know that he's like yeah. That's my day job. He's like i look at your show at ucb's like i think it would be a perfect public access show and i think like logic would dictate that if you were just the lead on a sitcom produced by fucking will ferrell. You'd go. no that's humiliating talk but it was just the jersey in me and like i hate to throw it around because it's such an easy phrase but it's just so chew in this case it was just like the punk kid emmy which is like that. Sounds like the move to make a show where i can do whatever i want and he because he told me to. He's like you can make it live three cameras studio. You can do calls us. Like how much does it cost. He's like free. You're telling me. I can get all that stuff for free so again. We had had like my show had had enough buzz in new york that some like production companies in networks had asked her out about it and then they'd all meet me and they just thought i was crazy person. I wanna do this thing. That's interactive with the people. In this way and a lot of the stuff i was describing later became. I'm not saying anyone rip me off. I just saw where it was going where it was like. It's going to be more interactive. Let's bring bring audience members on screen. Let's have them interact with the celebrity guests. Let's have the celebrity. Do something humiliating. Let's have the host put themselves out there in a way that like makes everyone a little confused about where the structure went like. I think a lot of these things now. I just saw the writing on oil but they thought i was insane. I said okay. If the only way i get to do my show as a tv shows public access so be it an this. This was twenty eleven. It was not always easy at the early. Episodes tanked hard and a lot of the comedy fence. New york kind of bailed on me like the fan from the uc bijl. They weren't showing used. You didn't get a ticket now. I would be like emailing friends like please. Just come sit in. The background doesn't look as empty as it is. But then we started. Having one of the nice things about having that show is. We could also have bans on started bringing on a lot of the the banned from the the brooklyn. Diy seeing then was really really strong like these venues that people like death by audio and to eighty five can't grasslands shea stadium at we started having those bands on and they started really telling the music scene about our show and that kind of made it this blend of comedy fans and punk fan so it kind of came full circle again where i had kind of left the park scene and lost touch with but always kind of had those ethics then. The punks came on my show and they had my back than their fans started supporting me again and they started realizing like oh this guy thinks the way we do and then the comedy kids who i think had that. Diy impulse but maybe not the outlet for that became this sort of like call audience surrounding my show and then they helped it survive and become what it was and then the next thing you know. I'm getting dm's from from weird. People who hate greeks. There's a video on your web site where you track down one of your internet tormentors and interviewed him. Which is up there. Yeah it's like a fantasy i have. I think anyone who's in the public eye has human. Has this fantasy sometimes. Like was that a fulfilling experience for you. It was it was and that that all goes back to big lake like like when. I said that there were a lot of horrible things said that video. That's an old video that was eleven years ago. the guy posted on the internet he posted on. Imdb massachusetts. i on db which. I don't think those exist anymore. I don't think yeah. He said along the lines of My agent should hang herself. That's how bad i was. Yeah like your agent if she hasn't hung herself already. Yeah i mean when someone saying your agents should kill themselves right. I remember reading that. Go going like the laughing. I was able to laugh at it at least just feel like. Wow that's harsh. that's not even. I should kill myself. It's that my agent. Right will now be outed to the entertainment. Industry is having such bad judgement. She tried to get me a career and yeah checked that guy down in a very uncomfortable video but the the the funny postscript is that the video went viral and then that guy reached out to me and was like hey man. Do you have any advice. These people are saying all this stuff about me in the comments. And i was like you gotta be fucking kidding. You're asking me for advice. I was like yeah. I guess it just happens. Sometimes bro that is beautiful. Let's see here. We have some questions from listeners. So i take questions on patriotic. I'm on patriot. Patriot dot com slash. Alison rosen tony. Doing poetry much is this. I went from anthony. Was that your tormentor. No anthony every question from the is some iteration of tone right fun fact not to not to shit on your fund but my name's not anthony. It's actually just tony really. Yeah wow i just so interesting. How do you feel about that. I'm fine with it. It's it's i feel like it's it's a i don't know i don't really have super strong feelings either. I think everybody assumes. I'm italian because my name is tony. But and you're not. You're not italian either. It's not anthony. And you're not italian just like the name tony but not the name anthony. You know what tiny the fact that you're not an anthony is a fun fact. So could you play the I'm not an anthony. My name is actually just tony. That's a fun fact are affect okay. So i'm on patriot on weekly bonus episode partis- a level where you can text me and i'll text you back. You get access to the thursday show videos when it is remote. I have not yet in person videos. But i will be soon. I swear this particular one. The monday shows you watch youtube. Youtube dot com slash. Alison rosen okay. So we have some questions that were sent in on patriot. You so much all right tammy h says what is your opinion of morrissey. Now i remember you on jimmy fallon when you show his autograph tattooed on your arm. Do you think he's a jerk as a person but amazing as an artist. Also how are you doing. Am i doing i philly kerr that a lot better than it was a few months ago. I'm telling you guys started this new medication and it was within hours anybody out there who says oh get shot. Yeah i mean. They put me on adderall though. So it's just. I'm taking amphetamines. So that helps. That made you feel better within hours. I felt like myself for the first time. I've had that exact same experience. It's wild it's the only thing i've ever taken where it would meet. Yes same thing like just a media like oh yeah i feel so much better my shrink has me like microdosing i take two point five milligrams every four hours allow. Just a little amphetamine kick every now and then throughout the day. I'm feeling much better as far as more goes. Yeah i mean. I think it's i think it's you can't deny he's he's he. He's past the tipping point. I can't defend him I feel bad. Because i feel like british fans were kind of warning. The american fan base for a long time of like this guy's done some really concerning stuff. But a lot of involved like union. Jacks and the symbolic g that is easily understood in britain and we were kinda willfully ignorant but i hit my breaking point with his comments about like the kevin spacey victims and then it just keeps going from there and then even just last week he called cova convoluted and I i mean. Smith songs come on. I still flip out. I think they're incredible. I'm glad that that ban exists in my life even a lot of his solo stuff at vauxhall and i. That's a brilliant album. But i can't give him money anymore I just can't do it. I can't. I can't go see him anymore. And i'm probably going to get the tattoo covered. If i'm being honest you have to his right. Yeah i have. I have a lyric on my arm. And that i think i'll keep because the lyric is incredible. It takes strength to be gentle and kind. That's i think that's a very good thing to have on there and like when my son asked me what it means. I'll be very very happy to be able to explain that one too. But as far as having not not just the word morsi but like he actually drew it there. It said i thought about getting like eighties. Era above. remember when moore see wasn't insane but they want a bit on my arm for the rest of an asterisk a few years ago. I would have if i was still single are probably would gone and made a joke extended it into something like that but now like the beautiful thing is now that i have a son. I'm like well. If i can convert this into a tattoo about my son like i'll never regret that. Okay whitney says who's the last person you snapped at. And why i mean i hate to say but look i am married and i love my wife and i think people heard me talk about her in glowing terms tonight with nothing but found this infection. But i'm also like. I'm also a husband in a domestic partnership and sometimes i screw things up and then i get called out on them and i get defensive and i snap about it so sadly the answer is highly has to take it on the chin from me being addicted when i'm addicted Into i feel great about that now. But that's the answer is probably i can actually tell you what it was. She's an environmentalist and she's bought. These reusable be beeswax coverings that we use instead of saran wrap and i i left one in the sink wet and it got ruined and she said. Please don't do that. And i said something. Snippy fuel bed. Do they work as well as saran wrap Shore okay jeffrey williams. So two people have this question jeffrey. Williams and veronica. I'd love to hear him talk more about action park. Actually class action park right class. I the documentary. That documentary was so entertaining and he was the best part. I thought that's nice. I was lucky. I got to be a part of that one. Those guys asked me to do it. I didn't nobody knew it was going to go to hbo. So i was honestly just kind of like screwing around. And i'm glad that i was because i felt like i watched it back. I was like oh they use me a lot. And i was just kinda like loose and my wife was like. Oh you really funny. in this. Like which felt good could get their child has had to host and keep things organized and then like crew suicide has such maudlin stretches and unfunny stretches. I'm glad i get to do a thing. Where i just like sason funny shit because i think i am a comedian. Who knows how to do that too. Yeah just a. I'm lucky at everybody. Watch that. I had nothing to do with making it. I was just a hired gun but everybody and then we moved back to new jersey and it came out a month or two later and it was amazing timing because i was like the king of new jersey summer we go out like they opened up outdoor dining in the first time we went to a restaurant guy came over and was like action park respect. I was like whoa. This is wild. Once we moved out to the woods. I was walking around on this road near our house. Country road through the woods in some decayed in a porsche. Like pass me the jammed on his brakes through it to reverse roll down the windows action park. I was like yeah and then he. So it's it's wild. How many people saw that thing. And i'm i'm glad people got a kick out of it because that place was insane. Yeah can you explain what action park was the documentary action park. Was this a water. Park in new jersey opened in the seventies and it was really big and eighties Through the mid nineties music fans to like a lot of music fans might be going. I feel like. I've heard of it warped tour to stop there. He's warped tour. They used to make action park. Stop there and it was just a notoriously dangerous waterpark. And we all knew it's it's anybody was raised in the eighties and nineties knows there. Was this very strange. The more i think about it the more. I realize how weird it is that like we were constantly being told like anyone in event is going to molest you. Hey here's a. Here's a milk carton with a kidnapped child on it they're satanists everywhere right. If you ever get handed. A mickey mouse stick on tattoo. It's lsd don't lick it. Yes i was afraid of everything right. Every apple. never eat an apple. You're gonna halloween. there's a razor. Every mars preschool. Oh yeah all of it and yet everything we were told was to scares but then it was just actually a lawless time where it was like yeah go ride a bike and go find some bike jumps in key fucking slam into a tree and will like it was also just like hey go outside comeback at dinner. Don't care where you are in between so the actions and words didn't matched up. I feel like action. Pork was kind of the ultimate representation of it which was like this very shady waterpark. Where every employee was a teenager. There was mashed drunkenness. People got hurt all the time it was in the newspapers. People got killed on a regular enough basis that it was that it was noted. And and yet if you grew up in new jersey in the eighties and nineties like you you had to go and if you had a chance to go you went and it tied into that new jersey thing to of like. Go be tough like go survive. Who cares so the documentary. I think did a really really good job of kind of like sam. Like here's funny stories about this fucked up. Waterside park also y. Why did we allow things like this to happen. And we were also pretending there was all this concern for kids but no like here's like and then they showed the headlines of all the different kids who died there on the rides. You go and you're like looking at the thailand. i'm going. i went there after that. My parents saw that in the paper that that paper delivered to our house every day. Like why is that place allowed to stay open. And why did we all go. And why did we like it. So is pretty. It's pretty funny. 'cause most of its just fucked up stories about water slides but then it has those layers that cut a bit deeper to write. I need to see this. Tony just tony not anthony. Have you seen it yeah. It's great i. I was aware of it. Not during its heyday or anything but It's just one of its in watching it. You will be like. How was this ever a real thing like it's crazy that it even existed because waterslide. That went upside down the stupid. That one was when i went. That was still. It was shut down but it was still sitting. There was like a loop de loop. Waterside was right near the entrance so it was. I think i probably went around ninety two ninety one nine hundred ninety three. And you'd hear. Oh yeah there's this waterslide it's a loop and it didn't work and people would break their necks on in and you'd assume oh that's a lie and then you walk in and the first thing you see is a decommissioned loop-the-loop waterside so it's all real all of its real unreal. Seth eisenberg said. I just wanna thank you for bringing one man's trash into the world. Everyone should watch it. No spoilers that is the episode of the chris gothard show where people are at the entire show is is people guessing within the dumpster right. Yeah it's the one that people kind of look at and go. That one was actually good. And i think fans of the show go that one kind of figured out how to make what was good about the show palatable and people who weren't fans of the show go. That was the only good one. Yeah like seth seth meyers said. It was the best episode of tv that year. Somebody just somebody just wrote a kind thing and said it was maybe the best piece of live television of that decade that so nice keep in mind. We did. Two hundred episodes in a lot of people would say most of them are hot garbage but that one we now people version. But what do you think of most of them. A lot of them are a. I think a lot of them are bad and a lot of them are good but good in bed was kind. Never the point of that show. yeah And i think the the impulse behind doing it at all is is really on like i look back. I have many conflicted. you know. obviously it's very important to me. That showed conflicted feelings about it. But we did it for the right reasons and i think we were like carving out a space that didn't exist before and i think a lot of people found some safe harbor there do you regret with. It is a really hard question. It's a really hard question. A funny thing is a lot of. There's a lot of public access feds. Who were like you sold out. It's fucked up. So i know how john breaker felt like. I've really understand job breaker. I don't regret first of all a lot of a lot of people will go. Public access was when it was at. Its best man wants one man's trash. You can't do that on cable and people will say that you'll people tweeting shit like that and that was on cable. It was on cable. That was on our cable run. That was not a live episode that was pre pre taped cable. So sometimes people always forget that. But you know it's like the end of the day. Like maybe. I should have just ended the show and said now this is like i wanna keep this pure but then i also look and go. I was there. Were a whole bunch of people who worked on the public access show and i was able to bring so many of them and give them their first jobs segment producers for tv or associate producers or people who did work and tv was. I was able to give them titles much above what they were on the ladder pre existing. And then i did not do this to sit around and like be woke. I don't even know if that was a phrase we're using back in two thousand sixteen. I think we went to cable. But my writer's room you look at my writer's room. And i was hiring people like joe firestone her i i do not take any credit for joe julio torres when of his first jobs and if abrego will miles robbie hoffman at like all these people are killing it and who are very much not like me and i remember. Our show is on cable in a An article came out about how late night is dominated by white men. And there's all this stuff that i think stephen colbert's writer even his writer's room at the time was all white dudes and i just looked around. I was like man. Like i have five people onscreen with me. There's like a core five of us and two of them are female when there's no other female presence on late night are writer's room has people of every inclination are writer's room has has straight people. Queer people black people white people. It has guys. It has girls in as people who don't really give a shit about that or defined cells someplace in between we have people who immigrated to this country. And i wasn't doing any of that to prove a point i just was like man like the three guys who wrote it with me on public access. They're all here. they're all white too. I need some. i need some other. I got that on. I got me and a few other guys who grew up like me. So i gotta have something else. That was just my instinct. Think so anyway. I'm rambling long story. Short is only. Yeah maybe the show lost some heart. But i think i was able to support like a little micro economy and give a lot of people jobs. Maybe wouldn't have had those jobs without it. A lot of them are still working today. And maybe it helped you know so can't regret right. That's why great do you have a just me or everyone. Just me or everyone i do. Yes yes yes. Okay tony alerted to this. Headed is just or every one all right. Chris gathered. let's hear your just mere everyone. I wonder if it's just me and a reflection of my mental illness or are there other people out there who try to control the timing of things via counting backwards. Like if i'm waiting for a subway and the subway is taking too long. And i start feeling that i'm going to be late hours ago. Twenty nineteen eighteen seventeen and in my mind. The train now has to arrive before zero. I am now forcing it to arrive. So if it doesn't. I go back to forty or i assume i did something wrong and i start over. That's just mental. That's just meant. That's mental illness right. That's just pretty cut and dry mental illness. I can't say that i've done it. But i i feel like i can identify with that. I'm trying to think. I feel like i do something maybe similar. But i'm blanking on what that is the. I feel like that fairly benign mental illness though. Because i don't do that. I'd like i always set my alarm for like a one or pretty much just a like. It's always like something fifty one or something. Forty one or thirty one. Like i like waking up on a zero or five. That's what other people do. But i'm not going to. So i do weird number stuff too. I said the microwave for weird time. I actually if i set it for a minute. I never want. I got an end it before. The whole minute is up about like a similar thing. Yeah yeah. But i do legitimately think this gives me some sense of control over things. I don't have control over. And that's concerning probably. I'm going to start doing this. Maybe it'll bring me comfort this just because it doesn't work. Let's keep it would bring you a lot of comfort if it worked it worked. I know i bet you anything. People are going to write in and please write in email. Nba show jim dot com or tweet at air. I nba does break submit. Your just mere. Everyone's i think people will let us know that they also do this. You can imagine that. You're not the only one i would make me feel less alone. If that was the case. Make chris feel less alone. Everyone and then also we just segment called. Hey go fuck yourself where you tell someone off and then tony plays a thing. Do you have anyone to tell off. Yeah i mean. I actually am despite all the talk. About how months ago. I was almost institutionalizing myself. I'm pretty happy. Person have pretty great life. And i don't traffic in telling people off too much but i guess just because i mentioned it before i will say They you know people who would come after somebody for being soft. They caught me at a time when it hurt me. But i'm kind of. I think i got my head on my shoulders. And that adderall really hits me nice you know and those at phetamine surging through my blood so i think i'm kind of back at a place where it can be like. You're just you're just police. Who kicked down. You're just bullies. Who try to kick down and things you see this week. And i just don't respect it and i think that's about as close as all come to tell anybody off but you can hear that's me phrasing something in an ice way but in my gut. Everyone knows how i feel. Yeah hey bullies. Hey i have acapella from the way. Sure i have a four year old and a two year old and there i have two boys and my. It's funny my two year old is like if it's possible for a two year old really dude. Like he just seems like a very much like a like a dude grow to the extent to your and my four year old is like the sweetest most gentle soul and i already feel like if anyone were to ever make him feel bad about that. I will kill them understandable. Maybe that's my. Hey anyone who would ever make him feel that he should be any way other than he is. Hey fuck yourself first of all. I want to respond by saying and this is not this is not me trying to suck up any way you seem so awake and you look so healthy and i'm shocked to hear that you have a four year old a two year old because i only have a two year old and i see my zoom window and i look like a man who's about to collapse of exhaustion so kudos to you. Thanks so much. I don't feel awake. I mean i don't feel awake at all so thank you. That's quite a compliment. I am blown away and impressed that you're holding it together. How you are. I will tell you. I don't know if we just lucked out. But our our first born not a good sleeper miserable introduction apparent. I mean he's the best. But like i just remember that. I had intense postpartum depression. I was just like what have we done. it's the schedule. I'm going insane. I'm not getting enough. Sleep et cetera. I don't know if you're considering having more but are seven one and done okay. Our second is a good sleeper and has been from the beginning and we really lucked out but Yeah so how to how to year old he is he because our two year old i feel like last week just kicked into like very like all of a sudden having temper tantrums that she had never had. He's very rigid. Suddenly all of a sudden my guys got up pinions. It's out of nowhere to add. Is what month was your two year old board february or april so yeah he's ended february. I wonder i wonder. Does your guy have the same thing to like. We'll get pissed about something and won't after like thirty seconds won't remember what he's pissed about but is still pissed just won't drop being s. Yeah the thing is long gone. It's like a trance. He's in or something he's out. Yeah yeah and he explained he also a kind of also melts my heart to because he will sometimes just declare himself to have emotions and then like he's experiment like he'll i'll see him like in his highchair eating. He's just like mean mug. Seem like putting food in his mouth looking at me like why are looking at me like that. And he'll go and he doesn't have b.'s. He says peas instead of go puck mad. And i'm like why are you met. And then he'll look and they'll be like you're not mad at me they'll start laughing with joy like but can tell. Oh that's like really funny. But also he's like trying on and he's feeling these things he doesn't know what they are and he's trying to this thing so yeah he but he's he sounds similar. You're like there's some dude bros stuff. They're like he loves. He loves if the other kids are kicking a ball. He wants to take the ball. He's also physical. He's like his mom. He's not like me he's like we live. We live near a lake that we can swim at pretty frequently and he'll just run and jump off dock with float. He's on the other. Parents are all like wait. He's too right right and they're like hell just run. No hesitation not even slow down at the end. Just be in the water. Which i think is pretty unusual for two year old so like and if he's got scar right now he's covered in cuts and scars because he just doesn't feel fear and he eat l. He's he's had stitches already in. Like i was so bad. I was at a town on work. I was in canada working and they require really strict quarantine and i was on face time with halle and my son santa. My son was like really like ball. Energy and kinda clearly showing off for me and halle goes cal. Tell daddy what we did today. I'm gonna go brush my teeth. And i was just about to be like i don't know if he's going to slow down and as she turned around she hadn't even left the room yet. He just sprinted towards the phone right into the corner of the table. So i saw him just and then i saw the phone fall and then i hear my wife screaming and the phone comes back. He's bleeding. She's covered in blood. Saw all on. Facebook facetime rather and it was rough. It was rough but bat it was so hard for it was it was having grown up like an idiot boy with an older brother and we would like break each other's bones and fights and stuff. I was like okay like right away. I'm like he's going to get stitches but he's a boy is honest mistake. She was the one who is there like actually getting bled on traumatized so i felt really awful about that right. Yeah i yes. They like fall and bump their heads and get bruised and stuff like well like oh my little. My two year old. There was a table that was in his brother's room that was rectangular and he would throw his head into it and he did it twice. And then i took like like on purpose so we took cable out of now. There's a round table in there. But every time i see any new bruise or anything i always i always freak. I don't show them but inside. I'm just like very worried but my my wife's brother is like nine and a half years younger than her so she had all these instincts come to life immediately because she helped raise him like is all right out of the gate he'd fall in my anxiety riddled nervous as and she just makes stuff and i just quickly learned like he can fall face first onto thing and just get up and keep going. Yeah and it's really true. But yeah he's he's definitely shown his war-scars but in a way around mike. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That i have the son who keeps getting cuts. Because he's like going for it too. Yeah that's sweet. It was so nice to have you on the show chris. We didn't even talk about your comedy special. Everyone needs to go listen to it. It's called half my life. Tell us where we can get it and please plug anything. You'd like to plug sure half my life the album's on all the streaming services. The video is like a half documentary. Half comedy special. Where i go to at nine or ten different. Diy venues and perform jokes. And there's footage in my son is kind of like i'm forty now and i have been doing this twenty. Here's some jokes. Here's also be wondering how this ends and I like it. You can get it at amazon and apple and demio all sorts of places in. It's nice and cheap. And i hope you like it awesome. If you like what you're hearing please make sure that you're subscribed or following or whatever the languages in your app of choice. Please leave us a nice comment. Five stars please. that helps out the show so much. Tell your friends et cetera. Follow me on social media. At alison rosen on twitter and instagram. I have a book out called tropical attire. Encourage other phrases that scare me. I'm on cameo. And i mentioned patriot earlier but i forgot to tell you if you like a deal if you sign up for a year so an annual subscription you get two months free so it's twelve months for the price of ten also. I an amazon influence. So if you go to amazon dot com slash shop slash alison resin amazon dot com slash shops and resin. You can shop my podcasting gear about to add a new mike and new headphones to list make beauty stuff. Home stuff daniels corner for the kids. Etcetera tony what about you. I am on twitter and instagram. At tone taxed podcast bizarre albums. Every tuesday and also hey go get vaccinated if you're not vaccinated. Let's get this shit over with. And because i want to go on tour next year and i don't want that to get cancelled and those tickets are on sale motion city soundtrack. Dot com. yeah. I agree with you do it. Don't be dangling that's right. Thank you so much chris. It was so nice having you on the show listeners. Thank you for listening. I love you you matter goodbye. Alison we had a good. But now we gotta do rosie.

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Episode 379: Jupiters Legacy, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Wrath of Man, The Mosquito Coast, Yasuke, Tom Clancys Without Remorse, Benny Loves You, Together Together, Things Heard & Seen, Fried Barry

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Episode 379: Jupiters Legacy, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Wrath of Man, The Mosquito Coast, Yasuke, Tom Clancys Without Remorse, Benny Loves You, Together Together, Things Heard & Seen, Fried Barry

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I can tell just by the excitement in your head that we were back. dude now. there's no here's the thing you ever like is like everybody's like air who we enjoyed that week off. You come back refreshed and shit not not the case at all man. I could go for a nap. And it's like it's like it's like one week off is just like eating one cookie. You know what. I mean you fuck you. Go onto the the bozo. Gameshow jake the bozo show and you win a package of archway cookies. Andy only eat one of said archway. Cookies it's impossible. You've got to eat that second archway cookie. They're just so goddamn good. And i feel like man jake ahead. One week off. It was one cookie. I could go for more cookies. Yeah yeah. I don't blame you. It was nice watching a lotta shit and just hanging out hanging out with hanging good time. It was nice. It was not do it all the time. Shut the fuck up sir. You take you take more weeks off than ed mcmahon. Did he take a lot of time off. No it's true. Normally when i take a week off. It's not to just be a lazy by something else on the table. This time it was just like. I had no plans i know. Yeah yes you got to enjoy it as well. Yeah it was fun giving this second archway cookie though. That's what i say What's your favorite archway cookie. Make this one. It's like an oatmeal cookie and inside. It's got like this raspberry jam. It's not a jelly. it's a japan. They're like fuck day. Jelly bullshit. We're going full jam on this man and and it's good. It's my favorite. Like sometimes i eat it differently. Sometimes i e all around oatmeal on the outside and then and then i just saved the jam at the end and sometimes i just go straight for the game. It's like eating a vagina jake. It seriously it's like. I mean you can mix it up. You know i. Sometimes i flick it with my tongue. Sometimes it's got a headache and it doesn't want me to do anything i was gonna say except there's no way to cook. He prefers but apparently doesn't does does not alone. Jake we are not alone. We are joined by a one. Mr handy gregg welcome handed greg. I'm imagining you like. Were all sweaty with your face covered jelly and it's really disturbing. It's not jelly. It's jam sir. I don't wanna get the correction. Tuesday for archway cookies apologies. I don't wanna. I don't wanna undermine their brand at least it's not preserves. Oh god don't even get me started on that now man. Welcome greg how you pin. I'm good i'm good. I am recovering from a really bizarre and anticipated injury. Yesterday that occurred. I'm scared. what'd you you do so my wife and i a few months ago. Our our dog jeeter passed away very sweet dog. He was thirteen years old. We loved him so much dogs. We we've been rescuing rescue dogs right so we rescued the adorable little chihuahua. Her name izzy. And i'm laying on my back. And whenever i lay down she plops she plops right on kind of like my belly and we'll sit there so she's laying on my belly and she's chewing a bone and i'm wearing basketball shorts. She misses the bone and bites my dick as hard as she possibly can. And i'm not exaggerating bleeding profusely. I was bleeding. Like i have never bled before it was super super pain and think women do this once a month greg. You know this is not the same kind of thing very very. Paid jacobs mike. My co host is a moron. I think that all greg no sell what the women go through. He's like no no much worse than that. Well but i don't. I am obviously going to get myself in trouble here. I have no idea what it's like on a monthly basis. But it's not like mother nature in the dick right. This is a chihuahua. That bit my dick whole as as possible and made me bleed like a stuck pig. All over i ruined my underwear because my underwear was all blood. When you paid did like piss come out of the side your dick it. Didn't it did last rate the whole a little bit. I think actually why did call a little bit which but it burned a lot when i peed lot and i was worried i was going to get that firehose effect where it just sprays in every direction that i'd have to clean up my bathroom like it's out of control limping all over the place. It's like one of those. What are those law and things with the wacky one thing kid the the other thing and i know this is disgusting but i just have to. This is what was going through my mind so then i know it was going through your dick. That dog's teeth pretty much so then a little dried blood like it was. I was bleeding right. Where the p. comes out you know. Yeah where i can't. I just want to reiterate like this is how we're starting off the episode listeners. This is the story. This is how this is how the episode he got hurt. I knew it was about to go the streets. I didn't know exactly how i knew. This is my genitals were involved. I did so. I had some dried blood there and i'm like what if the blood dries and like seals it up and then when i p p blocked up you know he's just got like this big water balloon dick so i watch you when the listeners to know i am recovering very unpleasant i did have probably a twenty minute span of time where i debated going to get stitches. My wife was out with her friends last night at a winery and i did call her and interrupt her. Tell her that. I might go to the hospital to get dick stitches. Winery with their friends. And she's she's like. I got my own husband whining at home. And then of course. I saw tiny little dog bit as i saw her friend at a little league game and she had heard the whole story already so they had a little giggle over it. You know but i. I don't think as a right now. I need any stitches. God that's insane. You're a real trooper making here. This week i'll anything for you guys. They don't make a hallmark card for that you know. They don't surrey. Sorry a trauma. Bit your deck like that. That angry old lady from hallmark. I don't know what her character is. But you know the the insulting old lady. That's on every card k. Bozo has your dick whole hit. Then you open it up. And she's like don't worry about that. Dried up blood. You'll be little dick whole anyway. A little a little flap for a twenty dollar bill and their two. Oh my god. I did not expect the episode. Start with the story dick grech. I knew i knew there'd be some kind of phallic story to begin the episode true. We're back we're back. We took a week off man compared to dick story like that. I want to think brandon daily listener brand daily. I'm not familiar with brandon daily. But he sent a donation. I want to thank him sincerely for sending the donation thanks brandon. We budget appreciate it absolutely absolutely. Yeah i yeah. I use that one to reactivate my ails jake. Oh wow i got an email reactivate. They'll be the first three months for free. I was so close to clicking it. I didn't get that email. They know they got me by the by the balls. Like a that. Chihuahua and greg. I would've gladly taken a bite to the sack as long as the balls but as long as the ball didn't get hit if the ball got hit. Forget it but just that. I would rather take a bite to the sack ball aside. Let's let's put a. let's put out a facebook pulled. Drake was iraq. My power rankings. To i think the worst is punctured the ball. That would be a nightmare. And then after that is the jack and then after that is the sack but just empty empty sack by power rankings. Where i to get. I want to know what the listeners think. I'm kidding i don't really care that's our next contests almost your power rankings. If we're watch to bite you in this colonel area we'll send you a copy of hills with three. I don't think i've ever seen any of those movies. Man i never have either. Are they real. Yeah three of them. Yeah remember that taco bell dog that got cancelled was racist super racist. Yeah yeah all right anyway. All right Let's jump it on. I tunes reviews. Got one of them this week. Discharge all right. I what comes from. I only cuss from josh. L. m. and it's titled the community. It's a five star and it goes on to say this podcast is built the best community. I am forever grateful for brian and jake for building an amazing space of people and ideas. Honestly that's probably blowing them a little too hard and they put the asterik and blowing like they were worried about tunes. Removing this one for using the word blowing off honestly that's probably blowing them a little too hard but they do a great job. Also i miss j that man vs superman batman versus superman episode holds a special place in my heart and that comes from josh l. m. secret review. We need to get back on again. You need to find a reason. Yeah maybe we'll get him back on. We're going to get him on a regular episode. It seems like last two times we've had him on. We've had him on for like a movie episode. Let's get him up a regular one shooting the shit. Yeah that's a great idea. Yeah yeah so thank you. Josh album stands for not sure. I'm i'm thinking how greg gotta guess. Lucky moose fucker chemo slacker. Josh lucky mossbacher. He's yeah greg issue. Be my co-host i asked. Jacob got nothing. I go to you and you throw out diamonds like it's only because i had another like three seconds to think of something. Jake what are you got. You got now less money off and say now and two weeks and we got one fucking serve you. Well we got. We got one of these fuckers. That fucking just changes. There's i'm not reading those. I'm with those call that people they just change them up so they can fuck and have a platform on our show and think they're cute changing in reviewing shit. You're done you're done by to the dick fucking one review. Neither sicario winners. Let's go over our winners for the united sicario movie got five winners coming up here. And here's our our winners for night of the car. I winter is going to be geraldo vega vega wins. Nice one of my favorite street fighter characters there. Yes yes that's been covered in a previous episode. Second where to. Joe stark wins joe and the number three steven chavez big winner today number four is the winner. Monica girl say fucking people every fucking week with this shit and number five. Stephen you win you win these guys every nobody else except for these firefighters. It's not even a contest anymore. I've just got to start giving it to these five people every fucking week here you go joe and then alternately like throw in a larry may day every once in a while the documentary about the guy who got rich just going on the prices rate over and over and over again. They'll have that in twenty years but it'll be the five people who enter contests rich and they're just like oh my god. I got a bunch of shitty. Vod move they'll have joe starke with a stack of like digital redemption coupons next to him and takes the shadow of the cloud. Man shit. i'm dropping stuff over here. Was that a pin now. The cap of this vodka dropping dropping a bomb this episode as here. I'm going to begin with snacks. Oh we've got another contest new contests this week. It's that damn michael che. The new hbo match show. Don't miss the all new. Hbo max original comedy series that dan michael chase starring none other than michael j. featuring celebrity guests amari hardwick excessively strong colin jost billy porter and method among others. That damn michael check sports michael's perspective on everyday situations including racial profiling unemployment falling in love and more stream. That damn michael j. now. Hbo max and we're giving out this. This is a cool and we're giving out Five that damn michael j. posters signed by michael che as well as not only in the poster. But you'll win a twenty five dollar american express gift card and all you have to do is. I'm going to send out a tweet in a facebook post and all you have to do is re tweet it or share the facebook post. Then screenshot it. Send it to me comments at pop culture leftovers dot com comments pop culture leftovers and then title that dan michael. Chang and i'll pick out the same five winners that i do every week. Next week i discovered joe starts already spending that twenty five dollars and he's just going to buy five more. Vod movies so you enter the contest and other contests. I was thinking random. Thought here. I was think i did watch the. I watched the first two episodes of that. Dan michael j. And i like it. I think i think it's pretty good. It's got it's got potential. Yes just the first episode. And i liked it quite a bit too. Yeah yeah so. Check out the show. That michael j. on hbo max. I think it's six episodes. I think they drop them all but check it out. Hbo max hours. I was thinking about. This is just a random shower. Thought that i had and it's it's that that movie the francis mcdormand movie. That won best picture. No badly nomad land. I was thinking about a a parody. Movie it's a movie where mads mikkelsen gets kicked out of a bunch of different countries and it's called nomad's land about mads mikkelsen. The actor getting kicked out of multiple countries. He's got a very sad face. You'd be perfect for that movie. Yeah that'd be great. A booby wet. Lots of zoom in on him looking very put off an driving around thinking about that chuckled to myself. Thought i'd share. Did i smell an oscar for ads. Oh also i'm in the very early stages. Jake greg of what i'm calling i'm calling. I'm workshop in the name but it's a it's a plight polite album remix now. I'll explain it. I'm the very like. I said i'm in the very early creative stage is but it's a plight album remix and i wanted to play just a sample of what i've put together. So far if you guys would entertain me all right. This is from. This is peter frampton from frampton. Frampton comes alive and this is baby. I love your way. This is from my from my early polite remix and so that's that's basically how it will go. I do. I thought you were going to say please. Before the chorus of the song. Now now i haven't extended. I have an extended version of it. This is my second entry same song but the second entry in my polite album remix. I might throw this in as a bonus track but yeah check it out here. We go frampton comes alive baby. I love your way. This is entry to as if you really do appreciate aren't gratitude. Yes if you're in the front row at that concert yes and you actively say you're like a very loud clear you're welcome. The artist obligated to give you like the return head. Nod like just acknowledging that you said. You're welcome i at that point. I think you're being escorted out of the concert. But i didn't stop there. I didn't stop there with my plight. Album remix wanted to play this one. I'm very proud of this is the i'll just let you listen to the song this from sly and the family stone tap packed. Thank god god. This goes on for another three minutes guys. I had to listen to the original ever again. Never i hope you've prepared. Natalie merchant for us have you know i don't know i i said i'm in the very early stages of this because i would never ask anything of you because you do so much for the community. This must happen. Earnestly you've respond. Yes yeah can. I make one other polite requests in a second here we got. We're going back to the tom thanks. That goes on for another couple of minutes. I'll play the full thing at the very end of the episode. If you wanna listen to that nonsense. I'll play the the full cut of that song. That's fucking awesome. You need to do the golden girls theme next Like i said. I'm in the very early stages right now to see how like the you've got a whole album coming together here. 'cause the one that i rudely interrupted your song and again i just. This is just a humble. Asked brian atlantis. Morissette's thank you. I would just love to hear that. Okay all right yeah. We'll take suggestions on this one and we'll take suggestions on this one but yeah having a lot of fun with that one. I feel like there's a lot of artists saying thank you and there's really nothing in return. We don't show our appreciation. no it's bullshit. It's about time someone stepped up. Yeah yeah so. It's my plight album remix. I'm just worked shopping. The name to. I don't think you nailed the nagging. I've wasted everyone's time i disagree. I think this is going to be the episode. Everyone finishes all right. Let's jump into. Let's two weeks off. And that's when i come back with jay you coming in hot. We should take more weeks off. It's terrible god. All right all right guys. Let's pop pop. Leftover reviews good bad pop where we're talking about the things in the previous weeks that we either watched read. Sometimes we rate these things and if this is your first time listening we'd like you to be familiar with our rating system. The rating system is simple. If the leftovers don't like something they toss it if they do like something they suggest you tasted and if it's brilliant it gets a tupperware rating if all the leftovers love it then it gets the pinnacle of success a tupperware party all right so i'm going to start off good pop this week with something. I've been doing for two weeks now and i'm going to continue to do it up until the new release. I'm talking about the fast and furious movies. So june twenty fifth is when f nine drops in theaters. I have seen when they first came out. I did watch the first three fast and furious movies. And then i just dropped off the franchise and so what they've been doing. Is this website fast fast. Fridays dot com or something like that. I've been posting the link on facebook and on twitter. But if you go there you can see participating theaters. That are playing too fast and furious movies every friday in the theater. And there's a code that you can enter at the any you purchase and then you can get your ticket parade. So i went to the markets theater. And i watched the fast and furious last week and then last night i went and saw two fast. Two furious watch both of these for free. And i like the ipad furious movie. I saw it when it first came out. Twenty years ago and hadn't seen it sets same goes for two fast two furious and then i also saw tokyo direct. And but i'm going to go to theater every week and with the fourth film. That'll be the first movie in the franchise that i haven't seen that i will be watching and then i'm gonna be watching them all the way up to eight and then when nine comes out we'll we'll talk about that movie but yeah let me talk. This is so cool being able to watch in the theaters. Let me start off by saying that. It's so cool that they're doing this because sitting home and watching him. I think it'd be completely different experience for me. I'm enjoying the theater experience a lot more because you got a crowd there. You got there not packing these theaters. They're like thirty forty percent capacity. But you got enough fans that are going out to see these movies that it makes it fun and you get the big screen and all the sounds that everything. I'll tell you one thing. I haven't seen that first. Basset furious movie. I remember very little about it. Until i started watching it again and i was just like holy shit. I remember now twenty year old. Brian saying this point break with cars. Like oh yeah totally. It's like do you like point break. Well how 'bout point break without all that damn surfing and more cars. Because that's what you get. And i fucking loved it man. I had a blasted that movie and then last night went and saw two fast two furious. And this is the one where he teams up yet. Dom gone Diesels gone and teams up with tyree skips and as roman peers and their undercover age undercover working with us customs service agent. Monica fuentes played by eva mendez. To bring miami based druglord carve erron roan down and my god fucking blast this movie. It's super fun. Oh my god. Therese gibson was super funny in this movie. And there's this really disturbing scene where they're like threatening you got this ad drug lord played by cole hauser. Who's going after this after this detective trying to get this detective to give them a fifteen minute window so they can pull off this cash iced and the threatening this guy that pinning him down they put a fucking bucket over his stomach and they put a rat in the bucket and their heating. This thing up with like a fucking torch. Oh your partner is crazy. The only way the only place for this ready to go is down there talking about fucking this wreck gone through this guy stomach to get out of this fucking heated up bucket and i was just like oh my god. This is so fucked. This isn't a fast and furious movie. I doesn't game of thrones the same fucking trick. I i saw that somewhere else. But i'm trying to remember where but man arias held held captive. And they do it to someone where she's held captive a ton of people. Remember in the original. Alan moore's watchmen the whole like it takes you five minutes to saw through the handcuff or ten to saw through or two two minutes. This author your wrist. Alan more got ripped off so many times on that. You can't even count you know. Yeah yeah loving seeing these. I'm going to get both of these. A tupperware with both of them. I really hold up to and you had. Those movies are made for the theater so i. I'm not surprised that you have more fun going to see him. That way. i mean just their big bombastic movies with great sound. Yeah yeah yeah. I'm dob show up at the very end of too fast and furious. He does not unless it's a post credits scene that i didn't stick around for because he does not now. I mean that's one of the things like i remember. When he came back in the fourth film and going forward he would always say. This is paul walker's franchise. This is paul walker's franchise 'cause like he was there from the beginning. Even though he wasn't in the third one he would always vin. Diesel would always say it's paul walker's franchise so let you had that third one. I remember the third one takes place in the future. And i think that's just kind of jumped out. I hope that i enjoyed the third one more than i enjoyed it the first time because i wasn't the biggest fan of the third one but we'll see what it's like watching it in the theater again and yeah i'm going to be going. You can purchase the tickets like they go on sale. Fridays and my tickets go on sale. Like i think it's like seven thirty in the morning. And then i just pick my pick my. I've been sitting in nine every week. So that's that's hilarious. That's very vide- so yeah i'm loving it. Man i'm loving. I'm absolutely love going to the theater. And seeing these movies so yeah. I'm going to do this every week. I'm gonna watch all these movies in the theater. I think that's the way they're supposed to be watched. And i'm glad that that they're doing this. I'm glad that universal setting this up and free tickets man. You can't beat it man. You just go to that website and you put it in the fucking code and you're good to go. I love it so talk about the later in the series and see what you think of those kind of the worst but then from there it's like an adrenaline rush. Yeah yeah yeah. We'll get into it. I'll be. I'll be going every week. Now i'll get you. I'll give you updates every week on these movies for all mankind season. Two finale greg. Are you watching this. I still on season okay. You need to. You need to catch up man. It's great things who tupperware their season. Two it is phenomenal. Oh my god and the way it ends. It was just an incredible season. This show just continues to be just a fucking four. So i love this great writing. It's just. I mean if you're talking the series like the hook is at the beginning is like what if the soviets landed on the moon. I you know and like you know what would the us how the us react and like the space race just keeps going and going and going like the second season we got guns on the moon. We've got people shooting and other people on the moon. And i know i'm making it sound like it's this fucking like war thing and it's all crazy it's not and it is crazy but it's not like i'm not talking. It's not like starship troopers on the bucket moon. This is it feels very real like this. Could be historically real if things went this other way where russia landed on the moon. I like and they're actually using real people that were involved in the space program at the time the second season. There's like just little things that change in history that that don't deal with like the space race like john lennon isn't murdered and you know you see a little bit of that. That's not a big thing but like i- tupperware the fuck out of the second season. It was phenomenal. They give you a tease at the end of the episode as to where season where season three is going and i am super super super excited for season. Three i cannot wait. I did watch also the invincible finale greg. Did you watch invincible. Did i absolutely would you think about the season. Overall the highest of tupperware so i mean i loved invincible season one low loved. It absolutely loved it. You know when you think about the finale. I'm not sure that we've seen human death on that kind of scale and any medium it absolutely was a gore fest. It was really breathtaking. Just incredible damn i honestly. I can't believe that they went where they went so early in the episode. You know what i mean. I was thinking like oh. They're just gonna leave this on kind of like a cliffhanger like this whole like maybe we'll get this big reveal at the end of the up. No it comes out with fucking guns blazing right at the beginning. You know what. I mean just like right out of the gate you jump into it and my god that that finale was the highest tupperware's and when you're talking about gore fast holy shit man that's subway that subway train subway was insane in. You know what. I what i really loved about this finale. It's not just gore for the sake of gore gore. Because this tells us that to omni man we're insects. That's it every person on demand kills reinforces. That idea that to us were nothing. We're he has no compassion. No care absolutely nothing but his but his mission i. It's it's really so well done and it absolutely earns the right to show us what it shows us in that episode. Yeah yeah i i loved it Jake did you drop off. I bet you dropped off this one. No i haven't washed anymore. But i i do plan on binging the series at some point i. I didn't realize it was just going to be eight episodes and we're done. It feels like this thing started. Well they dropped. What was it two or three the first week. And so i mean we had fi- i think five weeks after that where you're watching stuff but yeah i it just just an amazing amazing season. Robert kirkman was on the most recent episode of batman. Beyond and talking about the finale with with kevin smith end. Marc bernardin great. Listen i don't have any problems town. People about other podcast. Jank know who gives a fuck. We're all everybody's so fucking like protective over their listeners and shit and it's like yeah. I love our listeners. But man there's other shit to listen to if somebody finds something if somebody finds something better than us and they stopped listening to us and i can't fault them for that i'm not i'm not. I'm not trying to fucking keep my listeners chained up to a radiator in the basement you know if they want to keep getting vod movies better gotta come every week. You gotta come. Every week neidl sicario. That's some big winners this week. So yeah oh yeah so. Yeah invincible invincible. Oh my god. I love at the highest. The tupperware's for me greg. I i couldn't agree more. I can't wait for season two. This is one of those rare and season three which were both green light. If i'm not mistaken but yeah i This is one where i'm actually gonna. I'm going to hold off on picking up the source material as great as it sounds. I i know joe stark. Who's been on previous episodes fan. I wanna see how this plays out in animation. You know obviously when the ends. Maybe i'll i'll read the series. They say it is different in the book they do. They do make some changes and stuff like that. But yeah i on the first season i such such an incredible story and the entire cast just did an amazing job j. k. Simmons is incredible so fucking. It's it's i can't like sometimes i just can't believe like the cast that they put together on this thing it's a stacked just fucking stack Storage wars season thirteen. It started nice. I'm six episodes state. Brandy and jared divorced not divorced. They never got married but they were together for twenty years. They split up now. They're going to the auction bidding against each other. It is the it meant. The heat is on this season. And that's not just for publicity. Think legitimately are there any trust me. I've looked into it. Yeah they're they're both with different people now. They've got like two kids together and they're both with different people. Of course they're doing it on the show ratings and shit but like yeah. They're not together anymore. Yeah she he's with somebody else and she's with. I think like a producer or something like that on the show or something but yeah. They're both with completely different. People now wasn't the story that she was like a stripper when they met or something like that or am i imagining that. I don't know. I have no idea. I don't my my storage wars. Knowledge doesn't go that deep. Historians doors wars historian. I honestly i didn't start watching storage wars. Until i fucking tore my achilles a few years ago i had so much time on my hands that i was just like. Oh is ten seasons of this shit. Let's do it. So do you think they plant the shit in the storage one hundred percents like why is there a storage locker with totally worthless shit and then like a baroque flower base. I've always excess. yeah. I've always thought that like there's a storage locker with like fucking a bunch of dirty laundry shed and then there's like this you know nineteenth eighteenth century fucking board game or something you know and it's like what the fuck. Oh i gotta go get going to take this to an expert. Is darryl still on their darrell. Darrell sheets is still on their fucking with a surgery or something. He had something and think he was coming back. He laughed and went through some surgeries. And shit. now he's back fucking what's his name. Dave hester is not gonna season yup. Yeah he's not on this season and then mary. She was on the first episode but mary went. She moved to texas or something she's done with the show too. So yeah i know i. It's just it's just that trash tv. That i watch late at night before. I go to bed. Wasp storage worth. See what they're fucking pulling out of these fucking units. Yeah any really cool. Finds you've seen are nothing really mentioned now. Really man i. I just a guilty pleasure for me storage wars. I went and saw at the theater. I went and saw the demon slayer movie mugabe train saw and it's set after the events of the first season and man i love i there's better episodes there's better episodes of the series but as far as the movie goes i give it a tupperware. I absolutely loved it and i couldn't. I can't stop thinking about it like i want. I actually want to go back and watch it again before. It leaves theaters but as soon as as soon as over i was like looking for ren goku figures. I'm like i gotta get around goku figure i still haven't pulled the trigger on a ringo figure but I loved it. I give it a tupperware. I thought it was. If you're into demon slayer if you love that first season. I think you'll love this movie. It's a lot of fun there are. You've got the demon slayer core. They're investigating the mysterious disappearance of forty people aboard the moving train. And i love the movie. I can't wait. i wanna see it again. I wanna see it again. I i missed it. I max played it and i'm expert. One night have been called. See it on that big screen but then the next day mortal kombat mortal combat took the screens. But i did see it in. I did see it on a big screen. Which was nice. So but Would have been nice. Seems like a lot of the they do. Their movies. Right in the middle of the series. And it's like they're almost like little side stories that don't necessarily like super affect cannon. But they're interesting enough to still be really and they put a little bit more money into the animation on him. It seems this as far as affecting the overall story. I think you'll definitely want to watch this one. Because you've got some main characters and big things happen with some main characters. I did watch the dubbed version which i enjoyed overall but some of the voices didn't work for me but overall it was good overall. It was good so that together together. This is a movie that i saw in the theater. A young loner becomes a surrogate mother for a single middle aged man who wants a child. Their unexpected relationship soon challenges their perceptions of connection boundaries and the particulars of love. This is a comedy drama. It's written and directed by nicole. Beckwith the film stars. Ed helms pattie harrison pignataro julio torres in anaconda anaconda from penn fifteen. And you've got ed helms who's playing a a single guy who's been in a relationship with women. They haven't worked out but he's always wanted to. He's always wanted a child and so he's his forties and he's wanting a child and he's had a successful at summit successful career as an app developer he developed. This app called loner. And it's just an app or you look at people like people's pictures on your screen and if you like them you can you can like them ican so she can swipe that you like them or you can swipe to the right and never see them again. So it's the dumbest app ever you never. I'm sure that's real. You never contact anyone in the app like you can either you. Swipe left that you like them and then you can look at them whenever you want to or you. Swipe right and you never see this person again. And that's the half and it's called loaner so but he starts to interview different women about you know about being the surrogate mother for his child and settles on on this one woman. Anna played by patti harrison. And i thought the movie is going to go one way and it goes a completely different way. He starts to get like super stalker ash around her. Like like checking up on her and making sure like what are you eating. Who are you hanging around with like. There's this one scene where like a random guy comes out of her apartment and he finds out that she had sex with this guy. And he's like. I don't want some random pinas around my baby. He's like my. My baby is in there. Absorbing this guys ejaculate that blah blah blah and i was like okay. This is where we're going with this. This is going to be like this really weird comedy where he's kind of super sought stock russian. It doesn't turn into that. It's way more serious than that. And you get some great scenes with this with these two people. He's in his forty. She's in her twenties and they're you know buying a crib together. She gives him like a little bit of help as far as like raising the baby later when the girl she shows him how to teach the girl you know how to put a tampon in and all this stuff and and i mean it's funny. There's very it's very funny. And there's they even address the fact that like oh. They've been spending so much together. Could there be some sort of like romantic interest between the two. And have this talk about like she's like you've seen too many woody allen movies and i fucking i lost my. That's awesome and i thought that that was fantastic. It's such a great movie. At the end. They had a acuna with the director and at hallam's and pattie harrison and that was great found out that she was cast. Harrison has cast as as a nicole founder as the lead actress. Because it's like some jimmy fallon clip. She did years before she was like. Yeah that's that's why. I want to play anna and it was shot before the pandemic. And it's crazy like this was shot before the pandemic and it's just coming out now but i give it a tupperware. I loved it. I thought this is one of those. Like if it drops on amazon or or net flicks. This is one to watch. It's called together together with ed. Helms ed helms. I've never seen him do kind of like a like a serious dramatic role like this like he does play like the super awkward guy really well but he also he does it in this in more of a dramatic way than i've ever seen him play a character and and it it really worked and this is like one of those indie films like eighth grade or lady bird that just kind of like comes out of nowhere that i think more people should be watching but of course those came out before the pandemic and i don't think this is going to get a lot of attention and it should. It's really really good. It's a you know. I think it tackles this in a more realistic way and has some great messages as well. So i highly recommend together together when you're able to watch this. Let's talk about the mitchells versus the machines dropped on net flicks and add. This is an animated. Cgi movie young. Katie mitchell embarks on a road trip with her proud parents younger brother and a beloved dog to start her first year at film school but their plans to bond as a family soon get interrupted when the world's electronic devices come to life to stage an uprising with help from friendly robots. The mitchells must now come together to save one. Another and the planet from their new technological revolution extracted by mike rhonda in his feature debut co directed by jeff fro and written by rhonda and row with phil. Lord chris miller and kurt albrecht serving as producers stars. Voices of abbey jacobson danny mcbride mile route off. Rhonda eric andrei olivia colman fed. Arms on beck bennett. John legend chrissy teigen blake griffin and conan. O'brien and yeah. This dropped on net flicks greg. What did you think about this one. I see a lot of kids movies. Because i have kids as you guys know And i think whenever you see a kids movie these days you kind of ask yourself two questions and this is gonna sound a little cheesy. But the first question is going to pull on my heartstrings. Is it going to emotionally. Impact me right and for this one. The answer to me was yes. I think definitely. We had a lot of emotional impact. You know this is really a story. Among other things about a family. But it's also a story about a father and his daughter and the daughter's going away to school and she's growing up and how that impacts their their relationship. The other question is did it. Make me laugh and i would say for me. Not every joke in this movie lands but enough do i'm gonna give this movie. A high tasted overall What i'll say is this definitely is going to exceed your expectations as a movie. That's sitting on netflix. Subscription to watch for free. I don't know if this is as good as the best of the pixar films but it's a to me. This is a damn good animated film. Dacian is spectacular. I mentioned that some emotional punch. The there's this running joke with the dog. There's a dog that to me is kind of like the star of this movie. And i don't wanna spoil the joke because it really works its way into how the plot resolves itself but i. I've really enjoyed this movie again. I'd give it a high tasted. I'm going to give it a notch below tupperware and the reason why is because when you tupperware a computer generated one of these animated movies. It has to be like a forever classic. I don't think this is that. I think this is a very very good family film. Okay all right. Yeah jake what you think. Yeah this actually was an absolute tupperware for me. I i kind of think it is a forever classic. I fell in love with the animation style. It's just kind really unique style where there's hand-drawn stuff going on top of cgi. And i mean maybe the closest thing. I can compare it to some of the stuff. They didn't spider verse with the sound effects. But it's a little bit more. Surreal than that. Where you're just seeing all these different images and hand-drawn stuff going on top of the cgi I thought the colors were really bombastic in this i. The score was super amazing. The voice cast was phenomenal Man i fucking love this. I thought the the comedy really hit for me for the most part Especially the beck bennett fred. Armisen robot characters probably to my favorite moments in the whole thing Yeah i really love this. I didn't really expect to like this as much as i did. But man this was a grand time. A must watch if you already have a netflix subscription. Yeah i think this is supposed to hit theaters. And then netflix got it. I could be wrong now. But i think it was supposed to be theatrical release. It had to been feels like they spend a lot of money on this. Yeah i i love this too. I love this. I'm going to get a tupperware as well. I i laughed. I think my only nitpick with it is. I feel like the younger brother character. Kinda sucked like knowing. He was annoying Honestly i wrote that down. Go ahead brian. You speak but yeah i agree. Yeah like i thought he was funny at the beginning when they were like okay. You know this kid loves dinosaurs. And he's calling random people in the phone book. Do you wanna talk about dinosaurs with me. And i was like that's funny and then as the movie went on like this character was just super annoying and not funny and just like super super awkward in the way that he just did not fit in with this movie. They have just done so much they could have done so much. Different things with this character to make it better. That was my only nitpick really with this movie. Is the younger. Brother character sucked. Everybody else was fantastic in this movie. I thought danny mcbride's character like the way. He was super annoying but he was supposed to be like he was super like. I don't know very very parental. And and just like the way that he the family dynamic was with the screwdrivers and all this weird shit and it was fine. It was fine. I love the voice. Cast thought maya rudolph was great. I loved her character especially like and where she almost joe bill. Yeah the kill bill. I love that. I really got a kick out of it. What what were you saying about. The younger brother character greg. I'm sorry i would have been really curious. Creatively how it would have been different. Had they cast the child to voice that role because part of what was a little funky to me is it was an adult in and it just again. It felt like a little clunky. Yeah i agree i yeah. I think a child in a sort of more earnest performance leading into the awkward sort of the character has kind of an awkward story. That i it's kind of charming but it just felt weird with adult in that you can get jacob tremblay. I mean at least right. Yeah i he was. He's done comedy. He was in good boy. So i mean gets you get a child. It was a little weird hearing because like every once in a while. Just come out of the boys like this is not a child actor. This is a fucking full grown man so they had a real as kids vibe with the voice like tone vote character of it because he's had such a deep voice the little brother character. I was not a fan. The little brother. But i loved. I did love the robots. I thought the robots were hilarious. The furby scene had me dying. Like like let the dark harvest begin. And i was just like oh my god. This is fucking. This is great. This is great. I loved it eric. Andre was fun. I thought eric andre did a great job so i go to tupperware man i. I was pleasantly surprised that they could definitely do sequels. I think like of course. We're probably thinking like they could definitely do. You know the mitchells versus the aliens or the zombies or possibly even next so with the kid being a big fan of dinosaurs. I think that would be an interesting. I think this is definitely going to be getting sequels for netflix. This is huge for netflix. Thing that they can kind of like you know bank on people you know. Keeping their subscriptions net flicks. I think this is worthy of people coming back and rewatching this kid's i. I think this movie could be on a loop at some house households. You know it's interesting. It makes me wonder how i mean. Sony animation is a real player in the space now because they did into this fighter verse and now and now this film. I mean you know laura miller of course had roles in both but my goodness you know. That's that's pretty pretty good home runs in a row for them. Yeah and it's huge for netflix. To pick this up and they also have the spider verse on the service. Don't they netflix's now they do. Yeah yeah the mitchells versus the machines. I highly recommend it. I honestly. I can't say that. I was surprised when i heard that phil lord and chris miller involved. I was like man. I think this is going to be. I think it's going to be pretty good. I can't wait to watch this one jupiter's legacy speaking of things that dropped on netflix jupiter's legacy it's follows the story of the world's for superheroes who received their powers in the nineteen thirties but as they pass the torch to their children. Tensions arise as the young superheroes to prove their worth struggled to live up to their parents. Legend in a world where the old rules no longer apply. It's from the image comic book. By mark miller and frank quietly and the netflix series is created by steven s. Tonight he did the star spartacus show and he did some. He did some other stuff on stars like whatever. I don't even know how many spartacus but he was involved in that shit. It starts josh duhamel. Ben daniels leslie bibb lena. Porous andrew horton. Mike weight and matt lancer and i jake. I read the comic book when it first came out. I think it was like twenty thirteen or fourteen when it came out. And i read the comic. So it's been a good eight seven eight years since i've read it and as i'm watching this a lot of it was kind of like coming back to me and but i wanna know what you guys thought. What did you think. Greg of jupiter's legacy and how many episodes did you watch. I think it's eight episodes. So i did watch one episode so everything i say of course is in the context of one episode. I think overall the biggest challenge with a show like this. It's really trying to sort of be subversive in the superhero genre. That's exploded really over the last twenty years now and when you talk about a show that kind of subverts expectations in the superhero genre. You're talking about the boys. You're talking about invincible. Which we talked about twenty minutes ago. You're probably talking about David lindelof watchmen series umbrella. Umbrella academy was next on my list. I unfortunately this is not as good as those things. One episode through. That doesn't mean it's not good. It just means to me one episode in. It's not as good as those other things and because of that my sense is i did not read critical reviews before the first episode. I think critics might be a tad tough on it. But i maybe things go south after episode one in a way that. I'm not anticipating I thought Josh duhamel was great. I loved less leslie bibb when they go to sort of a period setting i think it the show looks rich and vibrant and loved what looked like one one real issue i do have with the show. Went episode in an actor named andrew. Horton plays the character of paragon. Who makes a very interesting choice. At the end of the first episode i thought andrew horton's performance was very very poor in in that first episode. He's he's like the kit harrington of this thing he call did not have any charisma whatsoever. He's very good looking but he probably has the again. I don't know the comic series. But i'm thinking of k. This young character who's trying to live up to his dad. Who's essentially superman. Who has this incredibly strict code. Who decides to go in a different direction. That should be the most interesting character on the show. And unfortunately it's the worst performance on the show through one episode. So i would give it a tasted. I am excited to keep watching. Because again i think i think people might be being a little too tough on the show. I know a lot of complaints about the action looking like power rangers. The the action was find me perfectly fine. This is television. It's good enough but I'm excited to watch more. It just might not be in the same class as some of those other shows i mentioned. Yeah yeah jake What did you think how many episodes i watched the first four episodes of this I'm a lot more down on greg. I think it's going to be a low taste it for me. I actually thought the first episode was the best episode. And i was probably at a high tastes it after the first episode just lots of intrigue of where they're going to go with this and then i thought the next three episodes just kind of meandered so much and there's really like that giant hook is just yet to happen and it's like how many of these episodes i have to watch before. There's like that lure that really gets me in. Also the acting is pretty poor released. Show other than josh. Duhamel does a great job. I think almost everyone else's is pretty poor. And i i think the flashbacks kind of looked kinda shitty to like just a production that they spin on. This doesn't seem like they could have thrown some more money at this and made this look a lot better and i just. I don't know if i'm gonna continue or not if someone tells me that it's got up. Then tastic cliff anger at the end if at the halfway point. There's this giant fish hoek. That'll get me. I might come back to it. But i think four episodes in and i'm pretty much done. I just a little bit disappointed. Mark miller is one of my favorite comic book writers. And i read the first six issues of this comic book. I think it's a trilogy of of comics. But i never read past the first arc I don't remember disliking. That as much as i dislike this but i as well was having things. Come back to me as i watched this I don't know i. I think the pacing is kind of off. It does a little bit of a poor job of explaining its own mythology in an interesting way. That makes you that. You're dying to know more about this mythology. So i'm a little bit disappointed. That the first miller world outing on netflix. I thought it would have been a lot better. Yeah I've watched all the episodes finished it today. As a matter of fact i will say that Instead of finishing this. Jake you just need to start watching the boys season one and season two everything. This does that did better. This tackles different things it does. I mean this. This is different when it comes to tackling like this superhero coat. That's been established like we do not kill. We do not get involved in government things in wars and things like that. This gets involved in that a lot more than i think like the boys does but i would still say. Watch the boys over this. Like if you're waiting for somebody to give you that thumbs up on jupiter's legacy and say yeah finish it dude. I'll i'll base. Come at them and say well. I think he needs to watch the boys. First season one and season two because it is a superior show. I think that the first episode was good like jake. I'd give the first episode. A honestly i'd give the first episode a a taste it. I would say the next three episodes are are low taste. It's and i think once you finally get to like the last four episodes it does start to ramp up and get better. I think that they could put a little bit more money into this to be quite honest with you. I think some of the special effects didn't look great. Some of the fighting in the choreographies. Not fantastic i mean. You're going to get that on the boys. That's that's why we go there. That's why we watch that shell. But it does tackle some tackling this code and really going after that like the do not kill code and and i think it's very interesting. Josh duhamel fantastic. In this i would give overall. I would give this a high tasted at the end of the day because i do think that the last few episodes are they pick up and it does get better. I will watch season two. But i'm not chomping at the bit for season two like i like. I'm chomping at the bit for invincible season. Two or the boy season three like those are just like just you know. I don't know man just like yeah. As far as the miller verse. starting on netflix. This is i was hoping honestly man by dave talking about making these movies at one time. And i think like with a bigger budget and and bigger actors behind this thing it could have been better but of course a series is going to be able to flesh out the story a little bit more. But you're right. Jake does the pacing. It does kind of meander and checked out in like. I think like some of this shit going on episode three and four. There's times where it's like. Oh man i'm really into what's going on in the present day and then that would flip for me in the next episode. Where i'm more interested in what's going on in the nineteen thirties. And now i don't give a fuck about what's going on in present day but like i think it all comes together in the last couple of episodes where i'm actually carrying about like what i it's got enough to where you're getting into like what's going on to the present day what's actually happening back in the past. How did they get their powers. It starts to the last now. I'm invested in both of these stories. But it's still not as like captivating and as amazing as the storytelling that we got on the boys and invincible and keep comparing them. Because that's that's what this genre is doing. It's it's it's kind of like they're taking the superheroes and all the tropes and it's kind of like a deconstruction of that. That's what these shows are doing. It's a deconstruction of superheroes and comic books and know what we've come to love from the justice league adventures and it's taking elements of both and deconstructing them and trying to give like. How would this really play out in the real world. And i thought that this was interesting but i just think the boys and invincible do it way better. The invincible does it from the perspective of a teenager coming into their powers and their father being superman and the boys does it from like this. What if what. If the justice league was owned by a company a big huge company. And so i put a little bit more into the budget. Get a bigger cast on this one and maybe it would have been a tupperware. Because i think the comic book is superior. The comic book is superior. I give the comic book a tupperware over over the jupiter's legacy and net flicks i the second season. Are they going to be going to be changing it up calling it. Jupiter circle series had its title. I bet they just keep it jupiter's legacy at they don't want to confuse people. I think they probably want or maybe they do what people think. It's a new series every time to get those big first episode us every true. Yeah yeah yeah i. i don't know the powers. Whatever that interesting you were kind of taken aback by the special effects. They have just like hidden valley. Look to when characters were flying or doing something that was almost distracting. Like you weren't like oh look at this wonderful new power this character. I've never seen explain it. It was just kind of like a mishmash of colors and energies and nothing really that interesting going on. Even the main characters power set was really not very well defined. Yeah point in the first four episodes. Yeah valley's a salad dressing isn't it. It is yeah he'll solid it's not hidden valley's not as good as some of the other salad dressings. That are out there. Though it's kind of generic one. Yeah i would take cans or newman zone over the hidden valley. It could stay hidden in my salad world. You know what i mean. Can i ask you an opinion on something. Sure so it seems you know having read the comic and i'm sure you don't want to spoil it for people that are interested. I was hoping it was salad dressing related but go ahead no like we talk about salad dressing separately but it seems like this is going in the direction of like no country for old men for superheroes right this. This generation is just wired differently in the tension that comes with that. Is that largely different from what we see in like kingdom come for example because it seems like kingdom come with kind of covering the same grounded. I know it covered that ground very very well. I just don't know if this has something different to say than kingdom come said about that. I didn't read past the first trade. Like jake so i mean i remember i remember. I remembered the big swath of this first season. Right at the end of the at the. I'd say like the last couple episodes. But i couldn't tell you it's a shame i i don't know i think i'm gonna take your advice and check out the boys before watching anymore this. I think i'm out on this. You'll love the boys yeah. Did anybody watch dark. Side of the ring on vice. The new i watched it. I watched a new one that came yesterday to yes today. Yeah did you watch described as well. Yeah yeah the. Brian bryan filming. Who like yeah okay. I'll be honest with you. I didn't know who. Brian film in was because i i when i got out of wrestling i got i got out of wrestling. I'd say like in one thousand nine hundred ninety two is kind of like when i got out so like all this like attitude era and all this shit jake. It's like i walk monday night. Wars have no idea what that is. So i mean i got out of wrestling but i still love watching wrestling documentaries. Especially when they get into this stuff. And here's the thing people if you're not into like professional wrestling that doesn't matter like these shows dark side of the ring it into anything true crime you're going to get that in dark side of the ring like the same thing like as i know this is completely different but when we watch when we reviewing the last dance a that came out the chicago bulls documentary. You don't have to be into basketball. I think to appreciate that documentary. And all the things that they cut the same thing goes for out of the ring. If you're a fan of anything true crime you're going to get something out of these out of the dark side of the ring series. This is on vice tv and this first episode was brian. Pill man and i was not familiar with brian. Pelmet at all. What was really cool about. This is like he was his tag team. Partner at one time was stone. Cold steve austin which. I have been on any watching tweak. They've got the mini biographies. They wrestlers and so i watched the stone. Cold steve austin one. I'm halfway through the rowdy. Roddy piper one. And they've also done a macho man randy savage one and those are fantastic. And i can't wait to get back those. But i'm glad that i watch that stone. Cold steve austin one. Because it really kind of like dug into like his relationship with brian perelman and then being the hollywood blonds tag team and man this this had everything in it man like. They really do a great job. Vice does a great job at decision this is their highest rate is rated show and they do a great job with this and you don't have to be a pro wrestling fan at all in my opinion but jake where did you think about this have you. Have you watched the first two seasons. Have you caught up. Yes i about a month ago i binged the first two seasons like within like three days i watched it all man that bruiser that bruiser brody episode. Yeah your stuff was fucking every episode like even the stuff. I thought i knew so much about it was so insightful. They do a good job talking to the right people. Like i loved it. They have dave meltzer around so much on even on the old episodes they talked to him. Quite a bit Jim ross don't call this one like just a really the people that were there and know what's going on. Jim cornets on a lot. Jim cornet is well. Yeah and this was fantastic. I remember the brian. Tillman stuff and i remember like exactly what they were talking about. How it really bled the line between whether it was a character this guy was just out of fucking mind and you know we. We just love the guy because of that Not hollywood blonde era but as soon as you broke up with that and started doing the stuff like i vividly remember the bobby heenan stuff when he touched. Bobby bobby heathen freaks to fuck out and walks offset like i remember that just being such a big deal and for all intents and purposes we thought that was legit like we didn't think that was a storyline. So you just never knew what this character you know what was on the page and walt was him. Just be an absolutely bachelorette crazy but the stuff. I didn't know it was like the behind the scenes stuff with him wanting to make more money and him actually creating a bidding war between the two different companies and their monday night shows by leaving one comfy and going to another company to increase how much he could make from the company he left in the first place like there was just so much behind. The scenes was part of the act was it. You know him just doing what he was doing. And this just had this. This was a tupperware by the way there was just so much to it and then just the intrigue of all the stuff with his family. I i had no any of that. I was aware that his his son. Brian had started doing professional wrestling in the last few years that i was aware of but i didn't know any of the circumstances behind the different kids that he had different wives that he had the car crash that he had. It was just a ton of new information. Even if you think you know everything there is to know about. Brian tolman they they really scour it. And wow i was just blown away. I was honestly surprised that melanie is most current wife when he died was willing to even talk about the really because fucking interviewed after he fucking died initially and she had no problem with that sound fake as all hell about the death of her husband. That's true that's true. They fucking offered her whatever kind of appearance fee for this and you know that she's probably who knows what the fuck she's blowing. That money on. I mean anything for a buck for that she she just she just came off as the biggest fucking gold digger in this episode and ruined relationships with their children. And man you can see. That drugs took their toll on her. Yeah they really try to make us sympathetic towards her but that never really like i always just thought she was just pure evil like her trying to separate the one daughter from her mother with really no basis grounds of a reason to do that accusing her of kidnapping when she was just trying to see her child Yeah it really made. Brian tolman widow look like a terrible person. Greg would you think. Is this your first introduction. Dark side of the ring. I haven't seen it. And this is a pretty riveting documentary Everything you guys said you know you were just talking about Brian perelman's widow and look all suicide is tragic and heartbreaking. This is one of the most tragic and heartbreaking stories of suicide. I've ever heard The absolute evil that was done to this woman and the circumstances of her suicide the way her child was stolen from her is really absolutely tragic and i don't remember her name but that new wife is one of the probably melania documented. Melanie is probably one of the biggest documentary. I have seen in a long time. She's easily as big of a a villain as are the tiger kings that we saw last year. Yeah yeah you know. It's what's really fascinating. Is these wrestlers. I i am at best a casual wrestling fan. My brother grew up as a intensely huge wrestling fan. He still is he was always into. Wcw wrestling more than what at the time was wwf. Where i grew up in connecticut. Ironically it was the headquarters of wwf. You would see the wrestlers all over town and stuff so we always had a little bit of a connection wrestling but somehow so many of these professional wrestlers just sort of like broken people so many of them have died young. They're you know. Websites dedicated to all of the stories of how many wrestlers died tragically and and died young. And i can't wait to dig into this story more i. I definitely really appreciated the look at brian. I had remembered him as fine. Brian but i had not remembered his later career because i think i hit drifted away from from wrestling. But when you think about it almost has like andy coffman quality to it. He said that they said that. Yeah it's really interesting stuff so no i. i'm gonna tupperware. This and i can't wait to Looks like this season three. I'll go back and watch seasons one and two absolutely you'll love it. Oh it's so. It's so good i mean. I think that they could do like you. Said like a lot of these wrestlers that have just like these tragic lives. A lot of them die early. I mean i don't see any shortage of stories for this. I really don't know do ten seasons of this still have material. You're absolutely correct. And dino bravo out of curiosity i mean i know a little bit about dino bravo and his involvement in his passing. And i've got to see that. Yeah that's in the second season they do. Dino bravo yeah. I'm really excited to see what they're gonna do with ultimate warrior and dynamite kid. Later on this season those are two episodes. I'm really looking forward to. I couldn't believe the story about how people were so caught up in debt. Whatever whether or not it was fake or real that they actually thought he was having plastic surgery to make himself look like shawn michaels to be at opponent for shawn michaels like. They didn't even believe that he really had this. Car accident That's how like down the the well. This guy was just unbelievable. Yeah and oh my god anytime. They showed him post. You know a car accident fighting in the ring. I'm just like oh. I was cringing. I was just like oh my god. I can't believe he's out there and doing this. He's got to be in so much balking pain and they were saying the guy can hardly walk in the airport but yet they were still booking them on these paper matches. Yeah yeah. I mean i mean the things that people will do to provide for their families and the keep to keep that money coming in. It's tragic yeah dark side of the ring. I'm telling you like you don't have to be into this. You don't have to be in a professional wrestling. you don't have to be into it. These stories are just captivating. I will don't have to have vice either. You can watch all of it on youtube season one season two and even the new episode. There you go watch it on youtube. Yeah if you got a roku we can just watch youtube right there. So i top rate as well. I thought it was fantastic. I went. I went to the theater and i saw the new jason stefon movie wrath of man mysterious and wild-eyed a new security guard for a cash truck surprises co workers when he unleashes precision skills during a heist. The crew is left wondering who he is and where he came from. Soon the marksman's ultimate motive becomes clear as he takes dramatic an era of vocal steps to settle a struck by guy ritchie. From a script he co wrote with ivan atkinson and mark davies. It's based on the two thousand four french film cash truck by nicholas boo krief. And this is Ritziest fourth director. Oriel collaboration with jason. Stay calm and i've not the biggest fuck in guy ritchie fan like i love lock stock two smoking barrels when it came out and pretty much have been a fan of anything sense really except for what was that he was that the gentleman that came out last year or the year before yes. I liked that. I liked that quite a bit. Actually but that's i mean there's like a twenty fucking year gap. I mean ninety eight. That's when to smoking. Blackstock and two smoking barrels came out and it's basically like a twenty year gap before like anything he's done again and he made some really shitty movies with this. Then wife madonna in that area. Yeah i wasn't a lot of people love snatch i snatch so the movie brian how you feel about that. What's that and it was a joke. Oh brian your fucking around. Get to the movie that thing you said you didn't like snatch i was it was okay. Oh you're talking to you. Talking about jane yes i am. I'm so i'm going to just on. And i will stop. No i like. I like cock. You know that i do. I know you love smoking. Poll laxed back to smoking dicks. That's it all starts mcallen jeffrey donovan. Josh hartnett a lousy lonzo. We've talked about the boys earlier. Lonzo from the boys who When i got my picture taken with him and some of the other guys that c- to lonzo is so happy to get his picture taken with anyway. He was so happy to be at sea to this was his first convention and the guy just like exuded like fucking enthusiasm. He was awesome. Chron chris riley raul steo. The ob up ray of skies was also at this but wrath of man. I didn't expect much out of this movie to be quite is with you guy ritchie. I'm not the biggest fan. I was just like man. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna the end of this movie at all. It's two hours and those two hours flew by fuck in love this bug and movie man felt like a throwback to like it felt like a throwback to a late nineties action kind of like heist movie. It felt like a throwback to two movies like like ransom and the italian job and all those things kind of like mixed into one movie. And i fucking loved rap of man. I'm going to own this one. I'm going to own this one. I really thought it was great man like he joins up he he. He gets hired as a security guard guarding these cash trucks. And there's a heist on his truck and he's with josh hartnett and he fucking just goes off and it's not like john wick going off either it. It's just like he. it's so wild he just very. He's very precise when he shoots people but it's not it's not this gung through stuff that we're used to it. He does this in a different way. He's very intimidating when he does this and he's almost villainous when he he's going around killing and shooting these people that are trying to rob this truck. It's so wild and the way he just walks. It's very intimidating. He just walks. Pop somebody in the head. But i was just like what the fuck. Where does this guy story and this movie holds onto like what is really going on for quite a while and then the second act like it bounces around in time and you'll see one part of the story and then it'll bounce back in time you'll see another part of the story and then it all wraps up at the end kind of like a little bit. Like a like acquaint tino movie in a way. But i loved it man i fucking loved wrath of man. I i cannot recommend this enough if you're craving like a violent action. Revenge movie with a with a main a protagonist. Who you maybe shouldn't root for it. You feel like you can't root for at times but this is the movie to watch. Jason them is really fucking gun in it. And i think guy ritchie did a great job in this movie. Felt like such a fucking throwback to late nineties movies. And i loved it. I left theater. I was actually when i was going into this movie. I was just thinking about going to the theater the next day and watching two fast two furious and being excited about that and like i was like okay. I'll just watch this. I'm reviewing for the show. I can't wait to see two fast two furious tomorrow and then the movie starts and i'm like oh my god i'm so fucking movie. It's so good it's so good Josh hartnett great in it lies alonzo's grade in it. Jeffrey donovan like anytime. Jeffrey donovan shows up in anything. I think he just. He's really good at playing like a bad guy. And yeah i. I highly recommend wrath of man for like listeners. Out there that love a good action movie or vengeance movie. This is one the watch. This is definitely one to watch. I checked. I haven't checked rotten tomatoes in a while but a couple of days ago it was like at a sixty six percents. It's probably gone down. But because that's how it is much more of us come in when they get ya but i could be wrong. They're gone up but typically goes down with this kinda shit. But i loved this movie. I thought guy ritchie did a great job. I thought i thought jason statham was fucking fantastic in it and yeah seven percent up one percent so yeah highly. Recommend a man. If you feel comfortable in a theater. I recommend watching this. If you love a good action movie the third act hosts malone it. Yeah post malone's and he sucked. Does he get shot. He sucked so. I'm not gonna spoil it. Just watch it. He's he's a sheet. I'm in. I have to find out. I got shot this shitty actor. He's a shitty fucking actor. He sucked everybody. Else's really fucking good though. Yeah this surprised me. I couldn't believe how much i like wrath of man really kind of on a roll for you lately. Yeah i mean. Didn't he do the aladdin movie correct. I liked it. I didn't hate it. I think i gave it a high tasted i liked it. I like the gentleman. He's come back a little bit. Took twenty hundred twenty years. He had to go to the edgewood that king arthur and then to be able to come back see here. We've got a few more things to talk about. But we're going to tell you what we're going to take a break. And they're jake likes those. Oh i don't hate them and we'll take a break. We'll be right back. We got good bat. Pop day greg does wrath man. Does that sound like something. You'd ever watch absolutely i did. I haven't seen it. But i absolutely will see it when i get a chance. It just came out. So yeah. I mean i couldn't believe how fucking good it was. I got i immediately got on the phone with my dad and said you gotta watch this. You'll love it. It's really good. I come eight talking so good jay guy. You don't need to watch it take. I don't think you'd be into it. You still watched it tom. Yeah watch john wick three. No i have not. I have not i need to i. I'm ready and willing at this point. I just haven't got around the. I don't need to hear your tasted john wick. Three so don't don't even. I think they had all three john wick movies for like twenty bucks total on i tunes recently so i picked that up. Yeah i need. I got the first one on blu ray. I need to buy the second to the next two. I don't own those need physical copies shipman. I don't fuck in trust. I don't trust these fucking digital platforms these streaming platforms to keep my movies if they screw me over if apple ever screws me. I'm going to be devastated because a few years ago i decided to go digital only with my mcu stuff. And i can't. I can't bear to lose that. Yeah yeah there's always disney plus. That's true but then i got to pay every month. It's like i don't really own that stuff. Yeah oh yeah same. Same but i mean if you wanted to do a marathon you could pay a month watch your marathon and be out if they wanted fifty bucks from me today to have wanda just sit in my i tunes where i could also just watch it on disney plus i would give them fifty bucks just to know what's on my itunes. That's how i am. Apple's you by the balls they do. They have me by the short hairs. They got you by the by the balls like that furniture. Wow ahead your deck. They do dick. And the apple has me bama balls cow. Let's take a break and be right back jake. We ever do. Watch our three. I would like to hear about it. Okay you ever get around to it i did. I actually did jump on that deal. That greg's talking about where i didn't have any of them digital and i got all three of them for twenty bucks i've been i've been waiting for. I've been waiting for a decade view to watch any of the raid movies. It's still my god jake. You haven't seen the rain. no no. I also thought both of those pretend vox and haven't watched them yet either. Yeah yeah there's there's i could go through. I've got i've got a list. There's a whole list of movies like that. Jake will never watch that. You want me to walk next time criteria happen like like. I feel like i could do like a whole thing. Where like if. I like you know like we had like the magic word on on pee. Wee's playhouse like if you told me that you watched one of these shows. Like fucking streamers party poppers to go off by next episode. I will have watched both rated movies. I if you don't next time there see to to. I'm gonna i'm gonna pick we're gonna go to the floor together. I'm going to pick you up. i'm gonna take you up to my room. I'm gonna duct tape you chair and i'm gonna make you watch the to raid movies Just want to hear you guys talk about how that story when i was thinking about not watching the movie certain movies. I'm gonna watch book though. Is there a third one. No no no no. There's only two there's only to the second one is long. It's two and a half hours officer. Sure watched the first one thing though. That's the thing though. Y- i get jake to watch these movies. That our beloved to me. It'd be like yeah no way. There's no there is a way greg. There is a way were greg. J gives them a high tasted or some else. There's something wrong with the high tastes there. When it comes to the rate movies raid is tupperware. Yes there's no other ratings. There's no way. Jake gives it a high taste that no way fucking low budget. That first movie is such low budget indonesian martial arts. And it's a. It's a fucking love letter to indonesian martial arts and it's fucking incredible what they did on that budget. The action the choreography. This kind of bare bones story but what they pull off in that fucking movie and then when you get into the second movie and they can expand that fucking world and the second movie takes place right after the first movie like jake like you could literally watch the first movie and then the second movies boom moments right after the first fucking movie and it just jumps right in actually liked that when sequels that and it is at the second movie is fucking incredible when you get to fucking like The baseball bat dude and hammer girl. Oh my god oh my god spinoff. It's fucking incredible. Some of the some of the most amazing action fight scenes. You'll ever see in ohio. There's a fucking fight scene that takes place in a car in the second one. That is just like fucking is such an incredible martial artists man and see what's going to happen. You're going get back on here and you're going to be like yeah i'd give it a high tasted god and my mind evans stopped making movies. Why did he make these two super beloved movies and then just fucking disappear and they asked him like. Are you going to do a the raid sequel. And he's like. I told my story right. Now there is no notice rate sequel. But like a trilogies. There is no third movie like this. That's the full story. That i have now if i ever think of something else then maybe you'll get another movie. He has come back and work on something else. he did. The gangs of london series. That recently dropped on. Amc okay did tv afterwards. Yeah but man man yeah. Okay i'm gonna hold you to that you're gonna watch you're gonna watch the raid. Put it on my list for next week all right. I'm watching these fast and furious movies every fucking week you go. That's what we need. I need to have a segment. Where watch these fucking movies. I've been asking you watch for the past bucket eight years i'm place through scotus start with the lone ranger. Police watch that shit. I don't even care. I don't even care the only appropriate. Let's take a break. We'll be right back with more good pop pop leave. Let me tell you something brother. You should head over to pop. Culture leftovers dot com and use the amazon shopping link for all your shopping needs reap the louise roy's do the top dig it speaking go creed play it on amazon. Not hundred percent. Sure he'll tell my little hope. The maniacs say your prayers take your vitamins and you will never go wrong brother and listen dude. You could buy those vitamins through the amazon shopping link on pop. Culture leftovers dot com. He'll just bought a neon orange. Kelly hit the curtain of slim. Jims snap into a slim. Jim don't over to pop culture leftovers dot com now and use the link. What jagoda do brother when pop culture leftovers wild on you all right. We're back and hold me to down the first thing. I'm you haven't given me the list yet. This is already the first thing on asia. Diego give you the list. I didn't watch fried berry. This dropped on shuttered. Did you watch this greg. I did berry is a drug addled abusive bastard who after yet another benders abducted by aliens berry takes a backseat. As an alien visitor assumes control of his body and it takes it for joy ride through capetown what follows is an onslaught of drugs. Sex and violence alien. Tourists enters the weird and wonderful world of humankind. Fried varies based upon the short film of the same name which earned fifty-seven official selections twelve wins at festivals around the world. And greg. what do you think about fried berry. Shutter the best way. I can describe this Movie directed by a gentleman ryan kruger. This is like sam ramyon crack. This is there is no plot whatsoever to this movie and it's not a movie that relies on pot. It's a movie that relies on an absolute assault of your senses and of your tolerance for being disgusted by things. I'll tell you that. Sounds like an review we got. What's jake. I'm giving this a high taste. It and i'm particularly interested in the direction of ryan kruger's career career because this is a very unique sort of direct oriel point of view that i definitely want to see more of i. I won't say that this is an enjoyable experience This is something that you do experience. And i think you come out of it maybe Gosh i'm trying to find the word. The yeah you can come out of it with some things that stick with you for a few days. Let's just put it that way. Shit definitely worth a watch. It is not a horror movie that intends to scare you. I would say. I don't know if it's a comedy or not. It's just a movie. In which i think they spend a couple of hours really fucking with you really fucking with you. They're gonna they're gonna show you some things that are you haven't had nightmares about things. This messed up before It is definitely worth a watch and can't wait to see more from ryan kruger. All right yeah. I might have to check this out now man that was quite sell. Even brian's description. I was like why did i skip this. I know i read the synopsis. I just didn't have time to watch this one. i i wanted to. There's other things. I wanted to finish finish jupiter's legacy and it just didn't get to this one but man yeah. This sounds fried berry on shudder. I'll be checking this out man. That sounds like something. It might be up my alley. Do you think that i'd like this greg. I think that you never forget it. Yeah so a couple of things to just for anybody who. I don't think anybody would be dumb enough to try to watch a movie like this with kids in the room. That being said this thing is like rated. This is rated axe this stream lee graphic in and you see body parts and things that you wouldn't expect to see in a normal horror movie this is this goes for it pains you see some penis for sure you see some pre penis early and In some regularly in this. Cpa there's a few times. We get scattered penises appearances of this looking forward to this. This gets better and better. you see. probably the most disturbing childbirth scene. That happens seconds after a really bizarre sex scene it is. There are body fluids flying in many different directions while this is going on this. This is a this is. Somebody's horrible nightmare. I'm hoping i'm hoping that someone listening to this episode just like fast forward tibet particular part. Where you're saying all that she never a thirty second skip button again. You know like at the beginning of like the trailers now. They've got the teaser trailer. Before the actual teaser trailer like i want to put that at the beginning of this episode. Yeah that's yeah this is again. I love for you when you watch it. Text me because i'm dying to know what you think about it okay. I'll let you know what i think about fried berry. Benny loves you. This is a new theatrical. Release we to watch this one streaming though after the accidental death of his parents. Jack's comfortable lifestyle comes to an end as he sells the family home. Desperate to improve his life. Jack throws out all his childhood belongings including a beloved plush. Animal named benny. However it's a move that has disastrous consequences when any springs to life with deadly intentions written and directed by carl holt star. Claire cartwright george colley. James parsons david wayman. Lebron and carl holt. Himself and carl plays jack in this movie. The main character and basically this movie is basic. It's like what if your childhood. I'm a little too old for this. But what if your childhood tickle me elmo went on a killing spree to start killing everybody that that you loved or cared about because it vied for your affection and wanted you only love it. So greg did you watch you i did. What did you think about. Benny loves you. The most direct comparison. I can give for. This is shaun of the dead If you like shaun of the dead. You'll probably like benny loves. You does every joke. Land not necessarily but enough do to make it worth your time One one thing. I'll point out. This is a joke probably in the first five minutes of the movie the movie starts with sort of like the classic like little kid who see something scary. It's this little girl. She sees something scary calls for her parents. Her parents come in the room. And you've seen this a million times in horror movies. Maybe the parents dismissed the child and it sets up this plot. The parents reaction to this. Slap the shit out of the girl. She's got she literally has her mom's hand slapped print on her face on her feet. And there's like a ball of spit that comes out of her mouth. When these slapper there are so many jokes like that that land extraordinarily well that i was totally fine with a few here and there not landing. I was totally fine with having generously really really low production value. I was really okay with the fact that nobody ever thinks to. Just throw benny in a fire or something like that. They'd is there are leaps in logic. That really aren't in the spirit of what. This movie is trying to do You know you may compare it. Brian if when you saw it i wonder if you were comparing it to saco gorman. This is apples and oranges. I don't know that this is like a future cult. Classic like seiko gorman was but it was To me a really good time. I give this one a high taste. It definitely recommend that people see it. I was not comparing it's a psycho gorman gregorian for me is on like a completely different level i love. That movie took me back to like when i was a kid. Just mike watching some of these movies. That i probably shouldn't have been watching it twelve or thirteen on on usa and then going out to rent the video store and you know but it was fine. This benny loves. You was fine. i i will. i'll give it a taste that it had its moments. I want to hear jake has to say about. Did you watch. I did not see this. Oh okay all right so you didn't see it. I thought it was fine. I didn't love it. I know some people are absolutely in love with this movie. But i thought it was founded off. Yeah it's just like this little dog going around killing people bad special effects and it had enough funny to it. But i don't think i've ever revisit this one again. I don't know i liked it enough though. It sounds like he really liked it. Though greg it had a lot of good to be fair. I don't know if it's a movie i'd rewatch. When when i first saw saw shaun of the dead i immediately went waited for the dvd. To come out. And all of that. Good stuff. And i don't know if i would wanna see this. It's it's it's a lot of a lot of good solid laughs for sure. yeah. I love shanna. The debt is a tupperware for me. I love that. I would tupperware shana. The dead for sure. Yeah hot fuzz. Well i loved them both. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah this is. This is all right. I think it's worth a watch. It's like a. It's like a comedy horror. But i'm not gonna put it on the level of a psycho gorman or even veloce pastor well blasted pastors not really a horror but i just wouldn't put it up there as far as like even the comedy but i think it was a valiant attempt at like like. What if a tickle me elmo win around killing people so yeah i liked. I liked it enough. i'll give it a taste it. That's benny loves you. And it's out now in. Select theaters will probably be. Vod here very very shortly. I didn't get a chance to see this one greg. I think he did things heard and seen. I wish i had heard and seen a different movie. This is a manhattan artists. Relocates her young family a historic hamlet in the hudson valley. As she settles into a new life she begins to suspect that her marriage has a sinister darkness. One that rivals her new homes history based on the acclaimed novel. By elizabeth brendan jr. And it stars amanda siegfried and james norton and it sounds like it was a turn for you. Yeah you know when you start watching this. You're gonna wonder if this is a horror movie. It's almost sort of marketed as a horror movie. It feels like a horror movie when you look at the sort of landing page on netflix. But it's definitely not a horror movie. This is sort of a drama in which a ghost story kind of happens to be happening at the same time but unfortunately neither are particularly interesting. There are ghosts in this movie. There are no legitimate scares If you're scared of like a mild brown out where maybe your lights flicker a little bit. You'll get a good scare out of this one. But i doubt anybody really will the ghost look like they came right out of You know the lord of the rings return to the king eight they have that same kind of cgi sheen but none of the cool production design. It's just it. Looks like somebody dressed like mona lisa via playstation two Not very good. I think the problem with this film ultimately is that it is a character drama marketed as a horror movie and the characters. Just aren't all that interesting. You know you have a husband who is a complete and utter douchebag. But we've seen this before in the shining in and shining. Does it a heck of a whole lot better than this. There's nothing really here that makes this movie need need to be performances are really solid but from plot perspective. You figure out pretty early that this husband's a douchebag you start to get a sense that he's not who he says to be that unfolds throughout the movie. But i i have to toss this one. Unfortunately i just think it's not worth a couple of hours. Even if you're in it looks. I would just let it go if you're a horror fan. Please don't watch this. This is not a horror movie. This is a marriage drama. That happens to have go senate. Just watch this as well. And i agree with a lot of what greg said. I didn't hate it as much as he did. Though it was a low tasted for me. i i do agree though like i think this would have been more interesting without the ghost. Part like the ghost stuff was almost a cop out. Excuse as to why people were acting shitty when it seems like especially the main character. The george character was shitty person to begin with. I'm not really sure that the ghost really accelerated his shitty nece. I think he came into being shitty. Like that's kind of the difference between this and the shiny jack was kind of taken over by the spirit and the ghost to become something else that was different his character. We're this was like the ghost. Were pretty needless. Like you could have had this exact same marriage difficulty drama without any of the ghost stuff because this this guy did a lot of deceitful stuff before they even moved into this house so quick. And this is a modest spoiler. But trust me. If you're listening to this you don't care just trust me. You won't care about this. There's a there's a guess to who the ghost is. And i would say about two thirds of the way through the movie you find out the goes to somebody else but that twist has zero impact on the plot. As far as i can tell that. I miss something. No you're you're absolutely correct. It's like there are bad guy. Good guy type twist and it really had zero bearing on anything that was going on. I thought this movie really fell apart in the last half an hour. I kept thinking. Well this can really be saved by a really dramatic dynamic final act and that was just nowhere to be found. This really lands with a thud and that was kind of the most disappointing part about it. I i think even all the meander in could have been saved by just a really exciting indian but it was very predictable that that was one thing like you just always knew what the next step two characters. We're gonna take was like things happened. That were awful things but you saw them a mile away coming so it was really disappointing. I have a question. Does anyone ever in this movie. Say i ain't afraid of ghosts that does not happen. You know it does not happen. Seem very afraid. It's going to be a toss it for me. Yeah what one. Interesting thing that i can. Point out as well is I think natalia surname. she's in stranger things and she's also in this film and all of the performances in this film are perfectly fine but she is utterly wasted. She plays a college student early in the movie that gets involved romantically with the husband. And the story. George and i don't she kinda just disappears about the way through the movie. There's no follow up on her story. She just exists in the movie to be slept with. Yeah it was really strange. There was a moment when they were going to throw a party and the wife demands that it not just be their colleagues that be their neighbors to and the husband's like not the neighbors one of those neighbors is the college student that i'm sleeping with. And and they do make that point like he gives that look like oh fuck. I'm screwed now. But i have to agree with this and then that character doesn't even show up at the party or have any impact party whatsoever. It was almost like they edited that out there. Some weird editing stuff in this for sure where maybe they were trying to make one movie in another one came out or does he did he at any point. Say i ain't afraid of no neighbors. He basically i mean. He implied that he was afraid. He definitely was not. Did you get that my crazy. Greg was there not moment where he was like. Oh shit i have to invite the neighbor. Absolutely okay i i thought maybe i missed something but yeah oh my god like if you're gonna watch this. Use the one and a half times two times speed on the netflix phone app. And at least a half an hour out of just watch i. I'm not going to be watching. this things. not seen heard is heard. We see things heard and seen. I will be watching this or it or hearing any of it. Tom clancy's without remorse. I did now another thing. I didn't watch this week. i'm not gonna. I took the week off. Jake even though even though over back i took the week off. You did make it all the way through jupiter's legacy though i did i did but i didn't watch tom clancy's without remorse. Greg use this. Yeah i saw this. I mean a couple of things. The thing first thing you need to know is that michael. B jordan as a leading action hero. Just give me more of that. I think michael jordan is a very very good leading man when it comes to just straight action films and that. That's really what this movie is. It's a traditional sort of action movie. It's got obviously the espionage kind of bent to it. I am not an avid tom. Clancy reader I would say about two thirds of the way through the film. There's a twist to that is not surprising at all. If you're familiar with this genre before that point this almost feels like the prequel to the equalizer. This is like a legit old school revenge film and i thought it was much better as a legit old school revenge film than it is as an espionage thriller with a twist. You've seen a million times before. But either way i thought michael jordan was really strong in this movie. I'd love to see more But he is just so incredibly good and everything that he does. If michael b jordan has a future doing kind of like the every two or three year action flick signed me up for that absolutely. I think he's really terrific I would give this one. A high tasted high. Tasted emma's on prime definitely spend a couple of hours watching it. Don't watch it for the plot. Wash it for michael jordan and one of the best plane crashes. You'll ever see did you. You didn't watch this jake. did you watch it okay. yeah i know what. I'm not the biggest. Tom clancy guy. I was intrigued. Because i do like michael jordan and i wanted to see how he handled as lead man. But i'm telling you after hunt for red october. I've never seen a. Tom clancy movie that held my attention. Yeah i'm not the biggest. Tom clancy guy either. And that's i think that's the biggest reason. I didn't watch this one to be quite honest with you. I love my jordan. His name off. I think kind of alienate a group of people by tagging his name on the movie me and you in particular implies like that it's going to be a really sophisticated spy thriller or like military and there's definitely some really cool. Sort of black ops stuff in here but it is still a relatively straightforward story is not overly complex story. Shake the episode. That we don't show up for is going to be called tom. Clancy's pop culture like brian. And jake aren't even hosting this week with somebody hacking your reviews. We're going to take someone's doing us a favor but then halfway through the episode. We're gonna find out that there are ops. it's twist yes sukey yes sukey net flicks a who is this. I watched the first two episodes. I watched the show. Greg cut out. We're going to have to wait until the parts walk user robot instead with did you hear me. I said. I said. I watched the first one i watch. I've watched through. I finished four. And i'm halfway through five stars. It's a six episode series. Set in a war torn feudal japan of max and magic The greatest ronin never known yasu k. Struggles to maintain a peaceful existence. A past life violence. This is an anime and it stars judas in the black messiah and sorry to bother you. Start la- keith. Stanfield as the voice of the black samurai yes. Uk when a local village becomes the center of social upheaval between warring dino. Yes okay must take his sword and transport a mysterious child who is the target of dark forests and bloodthirsty warlords and yeah man. I'm through. I'm through six episodes and i've got i've got an episode and a half left and man i fucking top were the first three episodes and then like once it starts getting to the big battle towards the end. It's just not as good in my opinion but maybe they'll finish strong. Maybe it'll finish strong. But man i fucking tupperware the fuck out of the first three episodes. I thought it was fantastic. I think the keith stanfield is great. As the voice of this of the samurai. And we're seeing a lot of this where the you know like the fucking old warriors like taking care of the young kid helping to take care of the kid on like this fucking quest or whatever. We're seeing it and like the mandalorian we're seeing it in the witcher. Our getting it again here in yasser k. But i dug this animation. I love the theme sock. Oh my god. I forgot i can listen to the salk one hundred fucking times. I think it's great fucking theme song the banger. But overall i will give the first three episodes tupperware. I can't really rate the entire thing yet. But i think the actions fantastic. What did you think jake. I liked it a lot too. I'm gonna give it. A high. Tasted my only watched the first two episodes but i i've seen a lot of anime. That's like in this like type where you know it's like a feudal japan samurai wore type of plotline and one of the biggest like faults in those is not a character you can really like latch onto or is very charismatic. Or you really kinda give a shit about. It's just kind of boils down to just being a bunch of cool fight scenes and i thought was the opposite of that. Where even within the very first episode you really latch on to the lead character. And i think a lot of that is due to The key stanfield Voice acting he does a very good job on the dub of this. I don't know if there if there is a suburb of this. I think this was made for him like this role was written for him to ask them to do it because he he really kills it and he's a very likable character. You feel a lot of sympathy for them with a lot like. I'm very interested in seeing more flashbacks of his character and how they came to get where he was him. You'll get him. Yeah and i love the family dynamic and kind of the will he. Won't he help them. Storyline going on you. Could you can kind of see both sides of that coin like why he would just wanna stay the fuck away from this or you know why he feels like he has to has to help because of just like his loyalties and like the the oh state he upheld you know back in the day and this was. This was very good. I didn't know it was only six episodes too. So i will definitely be finishing this man. I fucking i love the villain. This man i think the villains are great that fucking the priest and then the robot and man i love it. I fucking love it. The first three episodes are so fucking good in my opinion. And then i don't know man maybe they'll finish stronger. But i felt like the fourth was kind of the weakest in the series so far. But would you think. Greg what you think greg this is. Greg jumps in tells us what he thought again. I ask the question. Hey what did you think greg's like me tonight here. You got a mess greg. I thought i did roll my eyes at this for the first like three minutes like it was like. Oh it's just action action action with a bunch of characters that i have no connection whatsoever but then after that first segment it really just takes a one eighty and you really just kinda fall in love with these characters. Greg just gave his height taste his writing in a message on skype. I think that might be our first text message leftovers correct rick. Greg disagreed with us. He hated the key stanfield. The voice just couldn't stand the. Can you hear me now greg. We're not responding to you or anything saying we hear you will be like. Hey yeah greg we hear you bro. Greatest doubling down on tax with. How much aid is a keith. Remember that movie. Things things urgency. Greg is not one of them. Can you hear me now now. He's turned into a ninety s verizon. Commercial wasn't just mere. Was the animation. A bit blurry at the beginning greg. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that was your internet connection again. Yes it's quite you're experiencing now. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We'll get greg back Yeah we're back without. Yep no gregson hans grace talk about. Let's talk about the circle finale. It's talking about the circle. When do you wanna talk about the circle in the way that they do the show. Jake here we go. Great heart emoji heart emoji heard i know hold on. Pcl circle message. I loved the circle. Finale except for the winner hashtag. Now i'm not gonna do it. I'm not going to do but yeah what did you think. What did you think man the silo did. I actually by the time we got to that last episode. Who i wanted to win one. I was very happy with that. I thought my biggest complaint about circle season one is. I thought it kinda mishandled. The finale and i thought this season did a much better job of making it more dramatic at the end when they all get a meet each other and see each other for the first time. It was a way more exciting finale than we got last time. It may have been better results. You know mileage may vary on this last time but i just production and the way. The episode was handled was much better than the last season. Yeah i know. I love the season. Override just wasn't happy with the outcome. That's just me though. That's just yeah. I get it i get it. Yeah because we all have our favorites that we root for so. But yeah i love. We're still waiting on grade. Comeback fucked up right now. Corker i finished rutherford falls. Did you watch the whole season. I'm going to upgrade that. To a tupperware i really really loved it. And just fell in love with like half a dozen characterised. I'll watch that show and watch the raid movies. But you've finished rethoric false. I fucking hate. You hate you more with everything you finished. It's not the raid. You better tell me anything else. You've finished. I watched all twenty season. Love the great british bake off at this point. If we're in the same room. I would be strictly now. I know you people love your great british bake off i get it. I nothing against your show. I've just never seen it and it's a great show. I bet i guarantee. I guarantee you're watching that one with the with the girlfriend i would. I would watch it by myself. This definitely not like tied to the chair be forced to watch. Okay all right fair enough. I just think that there's certain shows the guys with the girlfriends or their wives and great british bake offs. The bachelor is the other one. And what's the other one. The fuck it. The massing. Like unless i cannot fucking stan that yeah but you guys are watching that ship so they can get laid that night. I promise you the only reason they're watching that shit is because like there's a promise some pussy at the with fucking man. Yeah i guess when it comes to that there's far were shows you could be forced to watch for some pussy but yeah it's it's not good i and they they just turn that shit out. One season ends and the next begins like i swear. There's like four seasons masked singer every year. Oh my god i can't. I've never seen an episode of the bachelor episode of the masked singer and i was just like. Oh my god yeah not good. Not good at all. Is greg a masked dancer now to which seems even more ridiculous Gessen's dancing stupid do. Did you hear about this new fugger day. Dating reality show. That's gonna come out. And it's got. Michael bolton is going to be singing clues or something. Is this real. Hold up it's a. It's a reality daily holdout reality dating. Show michael bolton. I've got like this up michael boatman. Zoe dash anelda host celebrity dating celebrity dating game at. Abc bolton dash anelle celebrities dating game as bolton might croon. Tv is back on its feet again. Produced by this one with bulletin. The national at the helm promises a wink at modern dating with a star studded roster of celebrity singles in their pursuit to find love offering is love it. It's celebrity single suit. That makes me really excited. I'm sure there's going to be a-list celebrities to walk sure. Yeah can't wait. what's her name. The recently divorced chris pratt. Oh fuck. i'm drawing a blank here. He girl and anna farris there. You go yeah. They got her lineup. No they is greg saying something. He's getting there getting there. So keep talking about this offering spin on the classic dating show. The celebrity guests will remain a mystery as one lucky suit or is chosen from a hidden panel of three bachelors and bachelorettes based on their answers to the celebrities questions suitors will have the opportunity to guess the secret identity based on clues questions and special parody performances by host michael bolton over. It's going to be like a masked singer thing where we don't know who the celebrity is. I don't know if i just want to know the celebrity is and hear about the dating. What's the show called. Has it gone so action celebrity dating game. Abc on abc. Michael bolton in this picture he looks weird a little weird critiquing. Michael bolton's look. Have you watched any the Name that tune revival. Now i like it. I watch name that tune. You never saw the originally. I don't think so. I used to watch it on. Usa back. when. I was a kid. Did you watch this. Did you watch the jamie. Foxx ship zam. Shell i did. It was terrible. Beaches am i. Oh my god no. I couldn't i couldn't watch it. I do love the chase think. That's a really great game show. That is remember the chase. The movie with that charlie sheen and kristy swanson of we was awesome. It had like flea and anthony kiedis alaron monster trucks brow fucking movie and they have sex kristy swanson and charlie sheen have sex in the car during a high speed car chase. That sounds very trial. She literally rides shotgun in. Yeah it's true with a foot. Greg where the fuck is we're talking about the chase from ninety seven or whatever the fuck you do a greg. People are listening to this right now. This is the thing that people have listened to their ears. Taking in what. We're saying right now this asinine bullshit that we're talking about. We should have a draft king sponsorship. You gonna draft kings. And how many bits greg gets back on this god damn all right pas bag and the daily still greg so lets you wanna you wanna listen to my sly and the family opposed to do go. We'll wait for greg abbott. This is from the polite remix jake on thanking know. Thanks bye tampa funky sung j. I could bob in my head the whole time fucking shit. I love it fast. Birth really battery. Can you hear me ask. I'm really sorry about that. I can't get back on to skype. It all what. I could kinda scape all our computer so i'm on my phone. Now is my recording. Yeah totally recording. Yeah it's really bad. It's fine right now. So people be pool appointed a week. I do you want me to go back into chat not chat my no. No no no no. We definitely don't want that greg. What's your problem with keith. Stanfield keats anfield accepting the i loved. I look stanfield okay. And you're gonna get back pedal now get it at all. I tell you might. You might just been reading it out of context boy. This is quickly becoming a bottom tier. It's all my fault because my thanks. Yeah and i'm sorry about that. You're welcome no. He didn't say thank. You probably dumbest things i've ever done. Jake cracked up. When you making that you died. Started off where i heard that song in my car. The frampton comes alive and he said thank you and i said you're welcome i like and i. I laughed to myself. And i was like yeah. That's going to be something that i do on an episode. That people will not appreciate my god. Let's yeah yes okay. So i don't know final thoughts greg. I don't know if you get my my chap message. But i do. I taste it. Yeah right yes okay. It's an anime. it's on netflix. Look stanfield i really like it. I'm point i would've finished it. Had i had more time. But i'll definitely be finishing it man but yeah those first three episodes. I thought fantastic. I loved it mosquito coast. Who got a chance to watch any of the mosquito coast on apple. Tv episode is ball right. Mosquito apple tv disgusted by the corruption of the civilized world. An idealistic man who is an inventor by profession relocates normal family to mexico when they suddenly find themselves being tracked by the us government. Why are they being chased. This is based on the book written by paul throw with the same title. A movie based on the book already been made back in one thousand nine hundred one thousand nine hundred eighty six that was with harrison ford. And have you ever seen that. Movie jake half. What'd you think about mosquito coast with harrison. Ford i did not like it very much. I thought when it first came out. So i was pretty young so i think it might have been mostly over my head hating. I'm like being forced to watch. It came on eighty six. I remember we rented both it and temple of doom at the same time. And i just couldn't wait for this to be over to watch temple of doom that craft. This starts justin throw melissa. George logan polish gabrielle. Bateman kimberly lease and man. I fucked doug these these. I watched the first two episodes. I think the the third episode dropped on friday. But i haven't had a chance to see it yet. But i really dug the first two episodes. Actually going to give this a tupperware. I really enjoyed this quite a bit. I wanna know. I'm gonna give it a high tasted i. I only watched the first episode. I thought it was very slow and plotting for the first half but then the second half really just adrenaline high gear and made up for it. And i'm very intrigued. As to what the fuck is going on. And why like are your are your three episodes in the first two. Okay okay is the mystery of why they're being chased by these agencies solved for you yet know and i can't wait to continue to watch this to find out why it's really good amick between The family and the daughter and you just feel so much sympathy for the daughter. She's just trying to have a normal life of a teenager. You know where she gets to meet a guy and talk to them. Yeah she she can't do any of that because she can't have her cell phones traced you know. You don't really understand why that's going on in the first half but then you realize why the dad is goes off the deep end about the cellphones later. Just a tough life to live. If you're a kid like the parents kind of created a big mess that the kids have to pay for and yeah you can see how that would be really rough in a real strain on on the family. This was great. I can't wait to see more of this. Did you get to was it. In the first exit episodes. I don't remember i from the second. I just remember things that happened. Did you get to like the. He's in costs and she gets him out of trouble. Yes shocked by that. I thought they really make. It seemed like she's just like fuck this and just gonna take off and then what happens. I was actually like whoa. Yeah yeah yeah second episode. Even better in my opinion i fucking. I'm so in a mosquito. The mosquito coast on apple. Tv granted you watch this. No i thought it was really a book is written by paul theroux and then this series stars justin theroux or relatives now. They have no relation. I looked into that just coincidence. Yeah greg greg put into chat this episode socks. He he put into chat. I signed up a soda line. Aren't you hear me now. Yes jesus great black man. Are you calling from antarctica. What the fuck is going on. Where the fuck are you obviously having some problems here. You're in you're in the middle of fucking cornfield recording what's going on. And if you remember al franken when he had the big satellite dish on his. i'll never forget. Are you in trouble. Like al franken was no. I'm not used. I'm just probably having some good old fashioned internet problems that anybody was hardwired into my computer but it just no luck Did any i i thought of. The o's are quite a bit when i was watching mosquito. Coast was just me. I didn't think ozark when i was watching this but i can kind of see the comparisons because of the family and what they're going through. But yeah it's kind of like you know family dynamics with this backdrop of crime and we don't we just don't know what the crime is. Yeah yeah mosquito. Coast and ozark. We know very quickly. It's money laundering and i think we're So i would give this a middle of the road tasted but this is a pilot. You know it's very hard to tupperware. Pilot has as jake knows. The only pilot that i can think of that i would tupperware would be the pilot for lost which is one of the pilots of all time i think but because they are relying so much on kind of the family dynamic here and we just start to get a remote inkling that there is crime but we don't know what the crime is it was a little hard to be attached to it in the same way. I'm attached to ozark because they have three seasons of connection to the characters ozark and this is again sort of a pilot. That's getting things set up So give it a good good solid case it. I'll watch another episode and see if it hooks me but i was little. I wasn't as enamored as you guys were. I liked it. I'm hurt man. They dropped to episodes man that first week. Yeah so i'll have to catch the second one. Yeah yeah. I was hooked. I was hooked let's apple. Tv continues to be such a great deal of so fucking good dude five honestly i upgraded my phone. So i'm getting it for free for this year. Yeah yes got it. Free t same thing and it's it's worth it for mankind servants this. I mean i'm not trying to ted lasso. All these shows are just wolf walker. Didn't get a chance to see. Yeah yeah we'll fox's was fantastic but apple. Tv's fucking killing it apple. They're killing this episode. Not so much. No no i would say five bucks a month for this episode. Oh my god. Patriot patron just like dropping off like flights this one. I'd be happy to reimburse you guys for any lost revenue for las patrons internet. Yeah okay. I just hung up with my lawyer. Then that's good. Let's let's jump. Greg came back. And i i didn't know what to do. I was just playing song again. How long were you playing like. Probably about a minute. And then i was gonna go through the whole damn thing. I'll play the whole thing at the end if you want to hear it but let's let's listen to frampton again. You're welcome here. Sound sincere as if you really do appreciate our enthusiastic gratitude solo in the song. What different song. That's a different side. Yeah i know which one you're talking about where he's basically talking through the the. Yeah yeah yeah that that. That roy arriver our savings. I know exactly what you're talking about now. Andy greg comes alive. That's great man. You're really destroying handy. Greg like it's really broken down the wall for me like i don't know if i can never believe again. He's great with the ranch but terrible with electron ix. Watch handy greg. That you know. I'm not very good at the things that i do on the channel. That's kind part of the joy of it. So that's true. That's true into the pop we've got. Let's see how that goes. Let's jump into the pop culture leftovers news now that we have greg kind of semi back with us all right news data this news. It gangsta thanks to all right speaking. We talked about john earlier. The continental new john wick prequel is set in one thousand nine hundred seventy s canneries in talks to serve as executive producers so we got details for the continental john spinoff series takes place forty years before the film's and canneries will not be making an appearance. Lionsgate television chairman. Kevin bags told deadline that the new prequel series will focus on a younger version of an mcshane's character winston and will be set in the nineteen seventies new york city quote. What we're exploring in the continental is the young winston and how it became to be that he and his team of confederates found their way into this hotel which have met for the first time. In the movie franchise forty years later so mcshane had previously confirmed that he won't be appearing in the continental but that he may return for some voice over work. The continental is a major location. The john trilogy and is the assassins hotel. That has a rule that you can't kill anyone when inside its grounds however step one put outside its boundaries and all bets are off. The studio took a lot of pitches for this spinoff series. But the one that won out was from the creative team of this obscure little show called wayne. That was on youtube. Begs was impressed because it sought a lot of problems and even use the sopranos as an inspiration. It will feature a crumbling new york in the nineteen seventies with a garbage strike that piled up bags of garbage to the third floor of the brow of most brownstone the mafia muscling in on that business. Which is why the sopranos and why in the sopranos he's in the sanitation business and other things that are really real as an interesting backdrop to explore the origins of the continental bags. Explain begs also shared that the way they're approaching. The first season is three essentially ninety events which you could construe as a limited series or a limited event series. So yeah we're got like this announcement to fucking years ago for this continental series. And they're finally still now. They're talking about actually. Hopefully that's good news. Hopefully that means it. Sounds like they heard a lot of pitches thought of a lot of ideas and they took the time to come up with the best idea. The one thing that does worry me is ruth. That's a tough job to be the guy that's got a step into the shoes of a young ian mcshane but that's some tough casting. I feel i feel sorry for that guy who the fuck living in. Who are they going to get. I can't even think. I was trying to actually think about like who they could cast as a young mcshane. And i'm like i can't even think about that. I'm scared to fucking say greg's name like there's like a ninety percent chance that he's not gonna fucking saying anything it says he's on the call. We've had that before. Is this working. God yes. I just want you to know totally different computer now. Anyway i've enjoyed my last appearance. Pop culture lifetime weight. You guys cemented now. I hope people were attached to you. Greg might have enjoyed a couple of those appearances. But i still have a youtube channel. We'll cover that the Yeah get really teared up. Because greg is one of my favorite guest. I'm going to miss them. Well yeah we always have the recordings that we can just replay over and over. You know maybe not. I think this sounds like a great concept. I can't wait to see it you know. There's definitely a lot of lower. When you watch the john wick movies that you feel like you can dig into wire. The rules the rules that are in place What led to those rules needing to be established. What's the history obviously in mcshane's characters one that you want to really dig into so no. I think this is a great concept and hopefully it's worth the wait. yeah last. We knew it was supposed to premiere on starz i. They did not mention the network at all in this new article. But last we knew that this was gonna be a stars series. So i don't know if it's still planning on being on stars. But i i would think that they haven't lost the rights to it. I think it probably still appear on stars i think. Yeah if the shows good this could be. This could be a good get for stars. They need it because they keep canceling everything. That's good on that fucking service. Ask versus evil dead and american gods so not really not a lot else there to be quite odds with you. Know it'll be a big hit. At first and then by the third season volcano. Cancel it by the third season Looking forward to the cancellation in future years. News from collider noah centennial exits masters of the universe movie at sony. I'm in the back of my head. Jake i'm thinking about how terrible this episode is. Oh it's impossible. I just want to say in my own defense that sometimes when bad things happen it makes the episode even better now one of those moments in your top half the top fifty percents. No no no no. It's not this is really bad. Twenty five percents really bad greg. I love the positive vibe that you're trying to get off right now but it's slapping at away. We've got so much great news to cover the we're gonna. It's gonna end on a high jake. And i have a lot of great news to cover. And it's it's still very much up in the air and questionable that you'll be here for any of it and the news editor about the covers. Noah centennial exits masters of the universe movie at sony. You could exit this episode. At anytime. And jake and i won't know until we ask your opinion can. Maybe i'll just take a picture of my notes with my cell phone and posted to facebook. Yes that'll put this battle this episode in the upper half. Thank you thank you greg. thank you greg. Yeah just put timestamps. So we know when your current anyway noticed antonio masters of the universe movie at sony. Aaron and adam knee They were the directors of band of robbers are slated to write and direct. The movie which has seen numerous writers tackle. The script over the years david. A score wrote an early draft as did christopher joost and ironman scribes matt holliday. Art markham centennial. Had been nearing a deal to play. Prince adam aka he man the most powerful man in the universe who must fight evil skela tour to save the planet attorney and protect the secrets of castle. Gray skull he is no longer attached to that project. A representative for centennial told collider on thursday. Though no reason was given he's gonna be playing a character in the who's going to play the atom in in the is it the blackout a movie. The movie this james got. I don't even know who's playing. I think it's in the ashes. Amc call be wrong about that. But no centennial. You know how Vh one has pop up videos. We need like that for this episode of pop culture leftovers. I little noise group. And he's going to be in blackout him. Okay with the rock. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah he's going to be in. That movie is he. Playing ray palmer. Is it rape atom. Smasher he's playing atom smasher greg. Let's get your thoughts on notice antonio exiting before you exit this episode. He didn't look anything like he man at them. I think that's what was really frustrating at the time of the casting. Isn't that the thing is it. Hold on here where you are. This is this is. This is where we are with this shit hold on like that we get a casting for surviving. That's playing somebody like fuck that fuck that and then we get like one instagram photo of them at the gym working out. And they're all jack botham. Gorlic remember seeing any instagram photos. Because he didn't look strong in any he looked scrawny to me and he had short black. I know they can slap a wig on dude but i just couldn't envision. The students demand there. Jim photo that i missed. No i'm just saying that's where we are right now with this kinda shit. That's what happens. Yeah so i. I wasn't set the. Maybe they'll get somebody that probably is better for the part you know and look. I don't even know if it needs to be. I would actually say. I'd love to see someone of a different ethnicity. Take on the character of he man. There just needs to be somebody who's jacked. That's what's really necessary. I mean those action. Figures were musclebound beyond human comprehension. You need somebody who's really big and built in that role and he just didn't look the part now now. I always when i when when. I'm happy that he's gone. Be quite honest with the. I'm just saying that's what happens. Though we get these castings and then all of a sudden we get this instagram or tweet or something like that. We see these people in the gym. And they're all jacked and shit. And i'll now i'm behind it now all right. They've been working out. They've been doing they've been doing this fucking workout. I'm you know we didn't get with this guy yet. but i he's been in a couple of those rom coms on net flicks. I was just like man. They're not taken. How seriously can. I guess. I do what it takes. He man seriously though right. I don't need like christopher nolan version of he man but i do want to take it a little bit seriously. You know what i mean. I agree i. It's got to have a little bit of humor but not like full on like slapstick. Yeah the other one was so goofy like the one from our childhood was way too far on the goofy side and it just ignored all the mythology we knew and like created its own mythology. Yeah did it doesn't hold up. Well if you were ever hoping for an explanation as to why he meant had half a sword and skelter head to have keep lookin' because it ended the cartoon at all you know. I think they pretty much abandoned that idea from the toys but You know i really grew up. He man was sort of like the first toil line that i collected i loved. I loved he man guys and i actually bought. Have you seen the new reissued. Once they sell it like you get them for walmart original comic book reprints and everything. They're awesome and you know it's like the exact same proportions as the old figures but their elbows knees bent just a little more articulation but there. There are a lot of fun. I'm really curious. Sort of what netflix's aim with this is because there are also doing the animated approach with kevin smith. I believe right. Yeah nigga live. Action and animated. Yeah he keeps teasing that. We're going to get photos and stuff like that pretty soon. I know bear. Mccreary is the music and i mean so. I'm hoping for the best for that. I just you know. Every week. On fatman beyond kevin smith is teasing that next week. We're going to hear something from net flicks and another week goes by. We don't get anything so hopefully soon. I unless i've missed some new information but i haven't seen anything. Come out of that other than what. I've been hearing from kevin but they short toys back in late february associated with the cartoon. I haven't i haven't even seen those the the target audience for this thing. I mean he. Man fans are well into their forties. Bhai now that's why guys right. I mean granted. It might be the kind of thing. We're parents rediscovered and show it to their kids. But i do think it has to be a little more serious than what we saw in. You know in the past and particularly in her tune obviously it can be there was. There was a masters of the universe origin of skeletal where comic that came out in two thousand and twelve. It was just a one shot comic and it's the origin of skeleton. Four in my god. It is fucking incredible. It is the highest of tupperware's. It's a great comic book and like you can take elements from that comic and put them into this movie like if the movie starts off and gives us of like a cliff notes version of the origin of skeletal. Or i mean before they give us like the big fucking like he man and the masters of the universe logo. They could give a five minute origin story of skeletal. That was taken straight from the comics and it would be amazing but yeah i'm really. I'm really hopeful. Now that they'll find the right casting for this. Because i don't think no no is the right guy for this from the beginning. I thought it was a terrible casting. Choice and i know it's like i mean who do you cast. Though i mean our choices are very limited. I've been saying chris hemsworth for years. Because there's no other names to really put out there for jason. But i see why you would think that well i mean th you know you've got the rock is played so many big fucking tough guys and shit over the years you know and i mean yeah. That's that's kind of like who you want in there to to take this on is like a big guy like chris hemsworth. But that's the only name i can think of jake. There's really nobody else. Yeah i know. Yeah i do have. I'm sorry jake you'll had no. You're fine. I do have a suggestion on the side though. I think we should totally go for frankly and gela to do the voice of skeleton because as bad as that live action he man movie was that dude when all how he he deserves another shot with a better sort of script I would totally hope that he gets a shot. I think he's well into his age now. I don't know if he's up for years old well but he wanted that role so bad and and he's the only redeemable when you think about the voice cast in the animated versions insane. They've got crazy. They've got What's her name. lena had from. Game of thrones blades. She's evil lyn. Okay that works so yeah is it mark hamill and it to mark camels in it as well right. I'd have to check on that. I'm not one hundred percent. Yes i gotta tell you jake. I'm looking at the image of the toy right now and i'm gonna i'm gonna pre tossed the for eamon. He's way to arm the whole idea behind. He man is that he doesn't need to wear all this crap because he's just so instantly stanley strong. He's a dude in underwear with a big ass or this. We're a big metal shirt long pants and boots with lights on them. It's ridiculous i'm not a fan of this. Look i don't like it either. Now that i'm looking at michelle. Gellar is teela lisa silverstone's in it kevin conroy's in it. Henry rollins justin long. Stephen root jason mewes. Of course jason. Mewes play stink or tony. Todd nice. wow that's crazy so you get great. Great voice cast i. I can't wait to see that. I think this episode's being held hostage by greg's internet. I know it sounded like we were sponsored by pop secret. The last time he was talking. Did you hear that. it's a yeah it was. it was. Yeah it was totally. It was like a jiffy pop thing going on there was a crackle of big time. Big time like more crackles than time you were talking there. Was this like nonstop bubble. Wrap noise man. maybe it was. My beard could have been the microphone being no no it definitely not a new sound bad now. No it sounds fine now. But that's that's yeah but that's like part of the not the fun with this episode. It's part of the frustrate. Yeah yea there's this point where like the guest is like like a ruin it for you. I'm just going to leave and like we're not there yet. Maki greg so. Don't throw that out there. That will just totally shit on this episode. Completely we're going to hang with you do. We're gonna do this. I appreciate that you know. I loved this podcast so much in the last thing i ever wanna do is is screw up episode. You know what i mean. I know you're making that a reality. So i only i got one choice for cable frontier. That's it oh my god frontiers frontiers like. That's like old people internet. You know what i mean like. They call it frontier because it's the same internet. They used when we settled the frontier back in the nineteen central shit. Oh my god frontier. That's like the golden girls who still alive they'd be using frontier. Yeah so i you know. But i got the euro system and and and you know when i got i learned got it all hardwired and it just. It just didn't work out. You know we. We've we know you get a new a new. A new microphones nice headphones. For when i'm on and stuff like that you know. It doesn't matter the equipment you have. It doesn't just gonna have to sell my house that's it. We have the move the movie. Yeah yeah honey we gotta go gotta go somewhere where they don't just offer frontier. Oh shit. I hope my kids like going to a new school. I hope your kids enjoy being able to get on xbox live noah's antonio leaves attorney. We've got hannah. John keim and entering high cardia and we have a red sonja. Finally it's been over a decade. But we do have our red sonja and this news comes from dark horizons ant man and the wasp villain hannah john keim and has been cast as the title character in the new red sonja film at millennium and joey solloway is harming the long just dating sword and sorcery feature from a script. He co wrote with tashaun warr from netflix's animated tomb. Raider series. did. I don't even know that was a thing that thing is that come out yet. Not that i know of. I don't think it's even out yet. That doesn't like like. I think people would know if there was a netflix animated tomb raider series. Like that. sounds like it's coming soon. Yeah yeah so yeah Yeah we got our red sonja. Hannah john keim. Who was she an eight-man she was the villain dude. She was dead the ghost. Yeah oh okay okay. Gotcha in the second one. Yeah and the wasp okay. I was calling it. Man second was called ant man and the wasp. Yeah it's like. Jake can't a stroke or something. I have no opinion on this really. I mean even in the watts really didn't showcase hurt too much or enough for me to have any opinion on how good of a red sonja she would be. She's definitely not like she didn't i. Apparently she's going to have to buff up for the role. I would think i think so i. I'm i'm a red sonja fan. Don't like and this goes back to like the old brigitte nielsen movie and then also within the last decade i've been reading the red zone comics and she definitely she definitely needs to be up a little bit and i think she will man. I think she will. Yeah i haven't seen enough of this actor to give you like thumbs up thumbs down. It's like i'm right right now. I'm kinda it's a wait and see it's a wait-and-see man much like greg audio to see how it plays out. Oh my god. That's yeah i. I think the casting is exciting. I really loved for man and the wasp I also i. I loved red sonja. When i was a kid brian I love the fact. That arnold schwarzenegger was in it. And i thought he was really like codename or something we we might as maria bad again. So bad man. This is really frustrating. Manage these conversations are just flowing. Maybe i should never stiffy. Can i go on for the rest of the episode. Let's go back to text greg what to do. Let's get another guest on to be greg's interpreter. So i was reading what can connection. I like you know how in the movie when the person is nervous to go on the date and they don't know what to say. Friend is like whispering in their ear and the electron device so basically like the roxanne. Movie with steve martin. Exactly exactly. that's a trope though. We've seen that that's not the only movie that do that. Trick greg if they ever come out with a favor reissue. The speak speaking say bro. You are the voice greg. Kelly linda own home boy. Not a little bit there during craigslist speech greg. Please don't continue to send messages. Because that audio of the message comes through on this. And i got i got here the entire time. No until you don't know what to do own be so all right we're back we're back. At least. two thirds of us are j. Yes yes we'll see we'll see how this goes. I've got major echo. Going on his greg gut speaker turned on or something. Now i don't i i i was double fisting skype earlier just to make sure one. We're correctly but i'm not doing that. Why are we back we back. There was no echo though before we came back on right start drinking. I have been yeah see. We should just just get pissed drunk. I think this is going to be the episode. i start drinking. It's moving marvel news marble news man hours half the moral news to turn into a robot there at the la home. Yeah it's like i'm going to. Ptsd with fucking robotic bullshit. Like once i go through accidentally to fan. And i about fainted. Once i go out into the real world like if my like like my mailman comes up to be. I'm going to be half worry the talking like a robot shit robot. Talk for the Mitchell i let leftovers versus the machine. Yeah this'll be speaking of mitchell's versus the machine. We have an interview here with a machine. Welcome machine got a marvel. Email here from nate ria. Hey guys i picked up a marvel legends tower. A figure today and it's from the shanxi line that recently released. What are your thoughts on seeing tony. Stark iron man an upcoming film. Thanks and hope you're doing well I i've seen this screen here on the shelves actually and it is part of the shanxi line. Are we to believe that weird beginning. A tony stark. Ai in the movie you think this is happening. Jake or do you think this is just part of the toiling. I don't think it's happening. I think it's just part of the toy line. I mean i could be wrong but sleep. All these legends series. Even when they're tied to just like one or two toys that are kind of inspired by the movie and not so much based off of greg. Yeah i mean in this set is well you get. What what they're referring to as modular ironman so this is iron man It was designed by an artist. Kevin hop good. It's the same ironman suit that was used in the nineties. Cartoon right it's the same ironman seat. That's in marvel versus capcom if anybody remembers that game and that was actually piloted remote tony stark. When i think he was comatose or something like that so i think there's always the possibility that they get robert downey junior to do like voiceover work and they have. Mba i but when they're such a perfect character death like that it almost feels like they should let it be I'm not sure that they should go that direction. They i guess they always could if they wanted to. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't predict any kind of story. Throughput from the marvel legends. Line based on the fact that we got up to two differences now based on figures. They're coming out with. I'm usually like. I'm totally cool with like certain you know it's it's based on comic books. I'm cool with certain characters coming back even after they die like the the whole low thing. I thought that that even though that death was like you know pretty pretty fucking cool. I'm fine with loki coming back. He's like you know. He's the god of mischief man. Just makes sense but like with the way that tony died. That's another level right and even even just to bring them back as ai. I dunno. I guess it could happen before this. They were still rumors about it happening. Possibly in in the iron heart series. But i think it would take away from the ci movie to have tony showing up in any form in the movie. Even even though. He's so much associated with the mandarin character. I don't really want to see this movie connected to the mcu that hard until like the end of the movie. I want this movie to breathe on. Its own and then we smack this character and with the rest of them. Yeah oh god can you imagine oh fuck saw what was it. Somebody fucking had an article on reddit that popped up while we were recording. John campia claims that marvel studio says over twenty. Mcu projects in the pipeline. That we don't know about including avengers five internals to believe it. There's no way they're not thinking of what they're going to do with the vendor snacks. No way yeah. I do think we're going to get an avengers movie in in face. I don't know of this'll be the first phase without an avengers movie. Yes i think we're going to. We're gonna pause any of injuries and it's gonna it's gonna come back and five. Are we going to get like a big event film in phase for or is it based we're gonna end with the fantastic four. I think i think it will end but tastic for. I don't think we're going to get that big event. I think this is kind of a putting together. All the pieces. Phase introducing lots of characters and concepts before we smack them all together again. What do you think greg. It's really bold if you think about it from a disney shareholder perspective. Because they're like. Hey why wouldn't you just meant three billion dollars every two to three years right but i think kevin feige could get away with what exactly what jacobs saying which is. Let's wait until the story is right. Let's build up demand. And then maybe we do three movies and five years you know but we have to till the right time what. I'm really curious about it. Seems like they're laying the groundwork for young avengers it seems like they're laying the groundwork for thunderbolts which they could call vendors if they want. Yeah definitely could be dark avengers. I've seen a lot of people saying it's not going to be thunderbolts. But it could be dark avengers. You're not just call the thunderbolts. Dark avengers you make a lot more money that way. It doesn't matter. So i i'm really curious what their approaches and i'm also curious just in terms of the contracting. I presume they have anthony. Mackie locked up. I have no idea. Is sebastian stan in the mix. They got him. They got him. They got him early. They saw picture. They got him to a nine picture deal. they saw. What happened with chris. Evans they offered chris evans a lot more pictures to start off with and he took him down a little bit and so they snatched sebastian stan to and nine picture deal. Yeah so what characters are in. The mix is really intriguing. I would think if being successful. He's an avenger. I i'm just going to say. I think it's possible deadpool's evanger. Who knows who shit you know. I it just they. There's so many different directions that they could go I i i actually. I'm going to side with you though jake. I think despite what must be a lot of pressure on kevin fi. I do think we won't see an vendors movie in face for. I think they'll wait but i think once we see avengers I guess this would be a vendor's five. I think we'll see five six and seven within five years speed up period of time. I agree with that as well. It'll be much like infinity warren. Endgame that once we build up to that point. We're going to get a couple if not three. I mean we're still in phase four by twenty twenty two face four is a long faced because of covid. I mean. I think we're getting what six movies and five and six months though at some point soon. We're getting a ton of movies. Well i mean this year. We're getting four. We're getting black widow followed by shanxi in september then in november. I believe it's november. We're getting the eternal and then in december we're getting spiderman three so we're getting four in the span of just like yeah like six months from july to december and yeah. We're getting a lot of movies. Yeah i'm ready for it. I mean it's been so long since we've had one i think four years worded. Yeah also within this whole thing too is do. We start to see some of the seeds of the x. Men and obviously were starting to sort of get more teases about the fantastic four and are they intentionally kind of sitting back off the avengers to sort of build up demand for these other iconic super teens. Maybe who knows. Well what if they are building a dark avengers. What does that mean for the avengers themselves in. Oh yeah so yeah. i don't know man. I don't know i think there is a. There's a huge chance that we might not get an avengers movie face for that. We might face four. Might be the first phase without with without the flagship movie. The avengers movies have been the flagship films you know. I guess you could consider iron three flagship film because it made a bunch of money but as far as like traditional flagship films. It's like a age of altron and then we're talking about anthony weren't endgame like those are the those are the big ones and we might especially those last few those last two really felt like they words he end of every storyline from every previous movie. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah. I think vendors i think of vendors for its time though was he it was oh i agree. It was still kind of taking every character. We've seen so far and putting him in a movie together like wasn't when of interest one came out there was no other. Mcu movie characters that were excluded from that real quick. Did you guys see that article from rolling stones. Where kevin feige confirmed that at one time doctor strange was going to be a part of one division. I did yeah. He was the one that created those commercials for that as well. Yeah yeah. I was wondering too if that had anything to do with paul bet knees. Now sort of infamous teaser about the actor. He always wanted to work with and himself was never the sort of intent there he know. I think he was. Trolling us okay. Hasn't he worked with benedict. I mean they worked together and fucking infiniti war right. It's hard to know who's ever on screen at the same time and who's not you live especially with. Cumberbatch was even at that funeral or not. We'll never know right. Hey it's interesting on the on the On the vendors thing you know. Captain america the first avenger made three hundred and something million dollars. Under four hundred million worldwide. Any solo marvel film. I think at this point is probably gonna make a billion attorneys might make a billion dollars. Shanxi might make a billion dollars. I mean we're talking about. we're talking about theaters. Oh you're right you're right in that right. Post cove post covid. Were still in it. I mean i know. People are getting vaccinated and everything. But i don't know if we're back to billion dollar movies just just yet. Yeah especially with blunt widow kinda diluting some of its money by being on the disney plus thing to and they'll never reveal how much they make off of that they. They didn't reveal it with milan so they won't tell us how much they make off of the disney plus premium editions. Yeah yeah black panther title got it. It's going to be black panther. Were kinda forever. And what do you guys think about. When i first read the title in the morning. I'll be honest with you man. I was just like it was. It was a gut punch for me. Like it was a downer because it's just like a reminder that he's not with us anymore and that the more i sat on it and the more the more it sat with me the more i of like realize like it's going to be you know how they're going to be handling the loss of chadwick boseman and You know what what kind of forever means and and so it grew on me. It's just like that initial that fucking initial. When i first read it. I was like fuck. I don't know if i like that title or not. And then it grew on me. But i'm gonna get some quotes here from lupita about the sequel. But what did you guys think. When you first heard the title and and everything jake. I really loved it when i when i saw the title i watched it on. That marvel sizzle reel. It's saw the arbuckles posting you. Know the reveal and everything. I it really struck me and i. It really kind of gave me goosebumps that that was the direction they were going to go in and just even in the tidal kinda give you that acknowledgement of the situation. They were in. And i don't know i can't think of a more perfect title for the movie and what they went with. I love it. I wasn't there when i thought it because it was kind of like like confirmation. That yeah like it's no more to challa it. You know for as much as i don't want them to recast the character. It just kinda like it's real now it's real. It's real not to say that it wasn't real when when it all happened in everything but now now that it's out there it's like yeah this is real so it was hard. It was hard. It was a hard if that morning sucked. The title has grown. On me sense though. Greg i think it's a i think it's one of those titles that strikes a perfect note because it starts to show us a little bit of a way forward. It's it's basically projecting. The story is now about the cast. And it's doing it. Also i think in a way that is respectful of chadwick boseman. I quite like the title. And yeah it's a gut punch for sure. It a gut punch but i think the title is simple and poignant and i think it works very very well the help give us a glimpse of the direction that they're that they're going. What one thing that. I was a little bit confused by there. Were rumors and i don't know how well-founded those rumors were that we were getting some kind of disney plus series about the supporting cast and is. Does this mean that's not happening. No that's still happening. We're getting conned series. We just don't we don't know anything about it. Yeah so it's it's just I i'm really curious. I think as everybody else's coup ends up stepping into that lead role. I know everyone says. Cherie i i get it. I'll tell you for for me for what it's worth. I know that her character is not of royal. Blood line would prefer to see tonight as a kobe as black panther then cherie right now I'd love to see sure. Take the mantle at some point. But i think kobe would be an amazing black panther But yeah we'll see. I think we're all asking the same questions. Man is ryan kugler. Have quite quite a burden to bear with envious that dude. I hope to reveal who the next black panther will be is a review of that we get within the context. The movie like. I really don't want this to be something that we find out from in entertainment weekly cover or just some kind of article like i really want the story to dictate what's going to happen and us to find out through the story who's gonna wear that mantle. The only way that happens. What you're saying is if they film different versions of different people in the black panther costume. That's the because to get people off the scent of who the black panthers. That's the only way. Yeah and i think they're capable of doing that. I have held their secrets before. And i really want this to be one that they have to that level like i want this to be avengers endgame level of secrecy and i really want the movie to tell us what's going to. Who's it going to be somebody that we've seen before. Is it going to be a character that we've seen before isn't going to be denied guerrero. Kobe isn't going to be you know. winston winston do because it going to be Daniel columbia is going to be you know the lupita who's the actress that plays shui can't think of the shirt right is like. Is it going to be somebody we've seen before casting. Somebody completely new within kanda. I think it will be someone we've seen before. I think that would be hard to get fans to swallow a completely brand new character. See know those kasper cole. Rumors right and boy. I again if i don't envy ryan kugler i really don't envy whoever's a new a new cast member trying to be the black panther even if they're not to challa that's that's tough. That is not a role. I think a lot of people would wanna play. Yeah yeah yeah newsom. Cpr dot com black panther to la vida neon. Go up about her complicated feelings over returning to film the sequel following the passing of starch. Oh chadwick boseman. She spoke to yahoo about the experience of gearing up for the next film with last year's lots of bozeman still so fresh people. Ask me excited to go back. Excitement isn't the word i feel like. I'm in a very pensive. And meditative state when it comes to black panther to his passing is still extremely raw for me. And i can't even imagine what it will be like to step on set and not have him there. There goes onto say not only with the cast and crew dealing with the loss of bozeman but writer and director rand cooler will also need to contend with a story reason for his absence marvelous claim they will not recast challa despite some fans wanting the characters to continue with a new actor. What isn't yet known as how the story will address challa but goes touched on the process. She said at the time. We have a leader in ryan. Who feels very much like we do. Who feels the loss in a very very real way as well and his idea the way which he has reshaped. The second movie is so respectful of the loss. We've all experienced as a cast and as a world so it feels spiritually and emotionally correct to do this. And hopefully what i do look forward to is getting back together and honoring what he started with us and holding his light through it because he left a a lot of light that were still going to be bathing in. I know that for sure and Those rare lupita iago's thoughts on this. She says it's going to be very respectful. And we've got to wait two years as fans of this franchise to find out. Exactly what ryan kugler has in store for us for black panther to the movie comes out july eighth twenty twenty two and that that first movie it meant so it meant a lot to me but like there's a whole group of of people where and i'm talking about black people. Where like this this. This character in this movie and the way that marvel and five g in bozeman everybody that was involved like handled this movie with a predominantly black cast and. This is still early on. We like you know. I think it's crazy to think they can't shake like that movie comes out. The two thousand eighteen was at twenty eighteen or twenty one thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred and i think i'm looking at that. We hadn't seen a movie like team twenty eighteen. We haven't seen a movie like this with like a predominantly black cast with a with a superhero. We'd never seen anything like this before. How long it took to get something like this and then for it to be such a huge hit this movie jake. I saw in the theater five times five times. In the theater i fucking. I love this movie so much but like you know like this movie. This movie was made for. This movie is not just made for like comic book. Fans like this movie was made for. This movie was made for Black vans that have been wanting someone that represents them on screen for fucking years. They finally get it man and it. What's so hard about this. Is that that we we as fans. We didn't know chadwick boseman and his family. And we're going through this whole time and then we all just got hit with like this huge loss of chadwick boseman and it's and i hate to bring it down to a level of like just fans because like it's so much bigger than that like we lost like we you know there's he his family lost him and that's super personal but man. He met so much to so many different people and it does feel like that light has gone out. It feels like that you can. We can pay respect to that in this next movie. But i don't for as much as for as much as i hope that this movies. Great man i i i. I can't sit here and be like. I don't know if you're ever going to be able to take. Can we really say that we're ever gonna fuck in. You can't replace this guy. I'm not gonna say here in bullshit anybody you know know it was. It was perfect casting made even more apparent once we saw the movie Yeah it's no matter who they picked to take the mantle. It's never going to completely put a band aid on. Just the charisma and performance of chadwick. I hate the fucking downer. And it's like i don't know what like he's got. People that are starting petitions on change dot org to have somebody else play to challah. And i don't think that that's gonna fix it either. I don't think that there's anybody that you can get in there. I don't know man i really. I think they made the right decision. Until we reboot the whole issue. I don't think we should have someone else plane. I agree with that. You know this. This is one of those cases. Where i think it's rare but maybe the comics don't show you the way forward. I mean i'll i'll just give you an example and i'm not this isn't like let's pretend we're screenwriters but how do you work your way out of this. The most appropriate way to do it might be to say that to challa died of cancer offscreen and to show us how that lost feels to the cast I mean that that feels more real to me to say at the beginning of the movie to have the cast reacting to their king dying of a very real illness then name morris tidal wave. Which just doesn't feel respectful of chadwick's legacy. Yeah i mean. Start the movie with cherie and kobe and you know angela. Bassett's character whom. I don't remember her name unfortunately but show us them more than their king in the very real loss and to me that feels so respectful of what chadwick gave us. And it's okay for the movie to really lean into them and for the story to really be about that. Yeah you know. I think that's really. Maybe this is just you start from scratch you rewrite the whole story and you lean into the loss and you really just take some time to soak in the loss. I think that's the only way to do this. Man it's it's because it's like. How do you just dive into. I don't know jake. How do you do this. How the fuck does wine cooler right a movie. Where not only like people were expecting like you know them to honor chadwick. Boseman honor what he did as the black panther but then on the flip side. You've got to introduce somebody else taking over you know the mantle of black panther and then also introduce a villain into this movie. It's such a task. I like what greg saying but like how do you. How do you make that movie greg. I love what you're saying. I just don't know if if you people to come to the theater. I don't know i i mean there is a power vacuum. You know when and that might be what the movie's about what what would the real world response be. If the most technically advanced nation on earth that just came out of the shadows and was instrumental in stopping an alien invasion lost. Its king unexpectedly Massive power vacuum. You'd have good and bad players trying to take advantage of the situation. I don't know. Maybe that's i'm just. I'm all like well we can do is guess that ryan kugler has to work his way through and i think the smart money is probably unsure being the black panther. I also think this is totally unprecedented. And while you can look at the comics for guidance they might just have to blaze their own trail. Maybe there is no black panther. Maybe there isn't maybe it's just the cast and the black panther three is what kanda triumphant or something. That who knows i. I don't know. But if i if i had to if like right now gun to the head you telling me like who's going to take over the mantle to niagara koi. I think she's more ready story sense and then she is. She feels like a better choice. Fucking she was a bad esim. Asthma shown. I think she could be a bad ass. Black panther too. I buy her is black panther. I still just kinda see. Sure he is like you know the she was kind of like the tech sidekick you know in this kind of in that first movie q. Almost yes bont. Yeah yeah. I i mean as for like if you're gonna give me like a black panther warrior and somebody with a warrior vibe. That's who i would go with would be a core acquai- who's like like you know the leader of the of the door and malaysia. That's who i would go with for now. And there's historical precedent to you. Know young monarchs having kind of like that steward for lack. I don't know what the right word is. But that older figure who is there. Yeah i i can see a couple movies of deny guerrero being black panther as cherie learns how to become queen but not queen and black panther at the same time you know like. I said it's unprecedented. The story takes a path that is different because it has to be different. And you know that. That feels like it could work again. The the question that the who's the villain man. I couldn't even begin to guess right. I couldn't even begin to get. Is it name. Or is it victor. Von doom is that the united states government. I mean i i. I don't know i don't know who to you. Introduces the villain in this movie. Where they've got so much to tackle as far as how they're going to control this whole country that's mourning the loss of their king. I i mean. I don't know i like what you're saying though like there's like you know that's the perfect time to pounce though it really is if you're a villain it's like it's only logical that. It's about seizing kanda. And and again. I don't think that's disrespectful. Chadwick's legacy it's a. It's a place. The story almost has to go. So i'd be curious if that is something they they do dude. I think like like the perfect way to do. This is if they did pick a koi to be the successor. She's the one that would not think that she's deserving of it. You know what. I mean makes her fascinating and right. Yeah yeah yeah. She's yeah. I'd i'd love to see her. I i've always been a fan of denied career. I still remember One of my favorite episodes of the walking dead there was an episode where somebody puts a baby in arms and at that point. We don't know that for sure that michigan has lost a child in the in the tv cannon. We don't know that but the way she reacted when she held that baby told us all we needed to know. I think nigeria is amazing. I really wonder if i'd love to see her headline marvel film. Maybe i mean maybe the movie is just about just this emotional movie about like who is going to be taking. What kinda into the next going forward. Who's gonna be. Who's going to be taking over the mantle. Maybe they can make that. Maybe just make that just like an interesting movie. We don't maybe we don't have to have like a villain in this movie. Maybe we don't have to have that in this movie. Get out be a very unique marvel movie but i agree There's so much ground to cover even without dealing with the villain that it definitely could be done I would love to see a conversation between whoever. The new black panther is. And sam wilson about complicated legacies. Yeah yeah and that's that's something that's gotta happen whether it's in this film or another just about what it's like to you know. And i think for sam his whole point at the end of Cal captain america in the winter soldier was. It's not about living up to a legacy. It's about making your own right. But i think that's There are some interesting character. Meet that we've got explore there. I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch the black panther movie again. I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch it. I i've watched chadwick boseman after his passing. I've watched him in the netflix movie. He did marines slack bottom and that was tough but man. I'm glad i watched it. Man he was fucking amazing in that movie. I don't know if you guys have seen it. But man he was fucking incredible. And i do think that he should have won the oscar for that. I i watched the father as well and fucking hopkins was amazing that movie but i think those should one. Yeah that that was a weird way to end the oscars to not do best pitcher last and into kind of well. Yeah big disappointment at the end like that. Everybody thought that that's what they were doing. Setting it up for boseman the win and it didn't happen so like the one guy that wasn't even there one. Yeah yeah so that was kind of The the. I'm sorry. Brian i was gonna say the one thing that really scares me and i know this is still disney. But it's very different talent. This is kevin foggy ryan kugler etc. They told us they were going to be. Respectful of carrie fisher. I don't know that they were they were. I'm just gonna say i don't think they. They used reused footage out of context. That felt not entirely. It felt creepy. I but it didn't feel good and hope that they learned from that. Yeah i mean. They had the blessing of the family. To billion orden and carrie fisher's son and all that stuff but yet didn't work didn't work did not have been honorable but the execution just didn't work. Yeah hopefully. I mean i i mean i guess we gotta trust ryan cooler to do the right thing here right. Yeah i think ryan kugler nosed pressure. He's under and knows the job he asked to do. And so i think he's going to be able to handle it. He's no hack. Oh god he's the best person alive to have to deal with this. I would be a lot more scared. If it was a whole new creative team coming in here yeah do you think he'll be back for another a third black panther movie. I don't know. I think he might be here to give us the closure that we need because of what happened and he's under contract. I mean he was a key. Might step away after this. He was under contract to do this. One i mean but he was under contract any thought he was working with chad. We all thought he was going to be working with chadwick for the second play at the movie. I have no idea. If frank kugler i think ryan kugler should do whatever ryan could wants to do after this movie. However if i'm if i'm disney gives us a great black panther too and then we're going to give you a star wars trilogy and do whatever the hell you wanna do with it. I hope it's a great black panther. I really do. I just feel like i'm gonna go in that movie and cry the entire fucking i. I feel like we need to cry. We need to have a good cry in the first thirty minutes of that movie. Easy to do. Yeah i mean. I think at the beginning of game was very dour Probably the first forty minutes of that movie so they could definitely get away with it. But i think we have to fandom needs to feel the loss Early on in that film and see the characters grieve. I i honestly i for as as this is how hard as it is for fans i wanna. I wanna chat of bozeman documentary. I want something. I want a documentary that honors him. Not just i mean yeah. He's great and black pants. But i want a documentary that honors the life of the man. Yeah i think that's well deserved you and i. I think that'll happen. I hope so. I hope so i really do i really do. It's going to be hard man. It's like i it's fucking hard. I can't i still can't believe it i just. I still can't believe that that we lost them. It's it's still it's still. it's almost. Surreal because it's like you watch those movies and he's just so he's so like his performances amazing he feels like he's just so full of life and he's got so much to give as an actor and it's it feels like this is like really cut short. It's like heath ledger all over again. But like it's fucked up. I remember feeling nauseous. I'd never felt nauseous. Hearing about celebrity pass. Before and i felt sick. Yeah it was just devastating. Yeah yeah so. Yeah well i i. I'm at a loss for words. I don't even know it's expect from black panther too. I do not envy ryan kugler. And what he's got to try to figure out with this balancing act of like giving us a great black panther to movie and then on the flip side like honoring the life in passing up chadwick boseman as the character in the movie. It's just like this is just. This is unprecedented. Like like you know the way. They handled carrie. Fisher is not great. But i mean we got we got. We got many movies with her a lot more than we got. I feel like i know eno chadwick showed up in a few movies and in the mcu civil war and the the infinity war games and stuff like that but like he barely just got started man. We barely scratched the surface with that actor in that character. Man he didn't even get the full sequel yet. Yeah i think he would have been. Well let me say this is really thought. Hopefully thought away he would have been christopher reeve for a whole another generation and he kind of is just not in the way any of us it. Yeah yeah and and. That's i think what's so tough to process about chadwick. What could have been and what is but not again in such a shocking way in such a shocking way. Yeah i can't. I can't be mad of the fans that wanted them to recast. The character of charlie means so much to so many different people. everybody feels. And i don't feel like the fans that want to recast. We're like discounting what chadwick boseman did for the character. They just wanna see this character that they love still be on the screen. I you can't be mad at anybody in this. In this instance. Right i agree with. I agree with that. It's always so weird when a character doesn't die on film but does die. Yeah such a main character and recasting of fixes. Those like that. Weirdness that we're going to have no matter. How decide to deal with this. So i i don't blame the people that want to recast the either. I mean it's it's going to be awkward no matter what they do. I don't think there's any rider decade right. This not be just a little bit with how they're dealing with just chadwick not being there. Yeah shadowing to to character die in any of the previous movies. So it's just gonna be this crazy out of left field thing Actually this is going to be the final thing that we're gonna talk about. And it's also marble garfield addresses the spiderman three rumors this from cinema blend. And they said andrew garfield addresses spiderman. Three rumors and fans won't be happy. Actually got audio. I think this. I haven't even listened to this yet so i'm gonna listen to this with for the first time with you guys. This is andrew garfield. And who is he. Talking to a podcast. Wouldn't it yeah. Let me just play this on anything to in broke quickly. Just cut you off this. Nothing's really like it's so crazy. Just got out of hand. This is all bullshit so then it goes on to say. Andrew garfield addresses the spiderman rumors. And you have to watch the full interview on the happy sad confused on fuck you fuck me on now. How much is it. Six books like hold on. I guess we'll never know lost patrons because of my internet they'll find out they'll probably shift over to that paying for pcr and you're muslim. So there's always a silver lining guys greg greg. I'm going to be. I'm going to be sending you an invoice at the your logo and lost patron man. Here's a quote. there's nothing to ruin. Listen i can't speak for anything else but for myself like they might be doing something. But i ain't got a call. I did not get a call. Listen i would have gotten a call by now. That's all i'm saying. And that's the quote there by andrew garfield and he's full of shit bullshit too and this one of those like oh why. They didn't call me but they called my agent or he could out lying. I don't know if anyone's beyond lying these stations to keep a good secret before they haven't officially announced any of these characters from the previous movies returns. Wouldn't i mean alfred. Molina wasn't really. It's not an official announcement but alfred. Molina fucking confirm that he's coming back for sure. I'm not saying that that's not true. But there's been the way they've handled it at least a movie. Studio is to nazi shit yet. Which means he's not allowed to say shit yet so when asked about it. He's got to be silent so i i don't think this just proves anything now. I'm with you. i'm with you. I think i think he's fucking full of shit. I just hope that toby and I well i. I hope that the whole gag in the movie is they just rag on earth for being the shittiest spiderman and that he's just so over the top and unbearable that would be the greatest sort running gag ever think jake using a looking forward to that i don't i would rather the movie redeem andrew garfield. I don't. I don't like the toilet seat for the i get what you're saying. And that's and listen. I've done my fair. Share andrew garfield so much study. Followed our podcast on facebook. Jay did did you guys just see mainstream by any chance. Know the mainstream movie that came out with him hit theaters but none of the theaters near me. We're playing it but it is not getting good reviews if you loved him in s spiderman. You're really gonna love him in mainstream. Let me just tell you. That's a manic performance. If there ever was one where did you see it It's rentable on amazon really. And let me just say really quickly. Because i don't want to change topics but my hawk absolutely delightful in this movie. She is just such a future star. She is so fucking good and she is she is she is a lockdown. No doubt future superstar percent and pi is really frustrating about. The film is that she falls in love with andrew garfield character. And there's absolutely no reason to like him whatsoever in this film even from the beginning he's just kind of irritating and there and she's so lovable and you're kind of sitting there going. Why why. why him anyway jake. I'm with you. I hope that this redeems him. And i i think that sony sony's kind of like wanting to do i think in a way you're thinks sony. Seeing what marvel is doing with like even their series. Dude like fucking wanda vision. Makes it to where you kind of want to go back and watch age of voltron again. Yeah it does it. Does i mean the same thing with falcon and winter soldier a. Makes you want to go back and watch those earlier appearances of those characters and this could actually make people give a shit about the amazing spiderman series which sony still wants to continue to sell copies of the letter not selling tunes anymore. I i think the ultimate goal would be to bring it all together and let them have one giant spiderman box set. That seems necessary. It's necessary that you watch these three same rate movies. It's necessary that you watch these other two. You know andrew garfield movies now not just what they don't want to be known for just what they did with the mcu. I think it's better for business to be all of it matter. Yeah i agree. And i'll say it again like what what i always thought would be kind of interesting is the fact that like in this last movie with tom holland peter. Parker is the fact that i think people think he's like this. This killer this cold blooded killer. And i always thought it would be kind of interesting if the if you introduce these two other you know spiderman into the universe older aged you know i guess more season spiderman into this universe and they ended up sending tom holland into like the sony. Verse and tobey. Maguire is the one that sticks around the handle. All the bullshit going on in the mcu. I don't know i. It'd be wild but i like we were coming from with that. Yeah as long as they don't put tom holland in a phillip phillips montage. 'cause i can't handle another one of those we'll see we'll see what happens with these i. I'm calling it. yeah. I'm definitely calling bullshit on andrew garfield and these comments. Yeah better than like tom. Hollander mark ruffalo holding a secret. I think is all that's going on here. yeah. I think he's good at home the secret to because nobody's fucking signed up for happy. Set confused podcasts patriot. I bet they have a bigger patriot than us though. I promise you they do. Oh a hundred percent gaspar. I know we gotta piss them off. Jake i know i. I'm proud of that. I'm not going to be so my shine moments. He used to follow us on facebook. Jake and then you piss them off. Yeah i mean he'll get over it. No get out outta here. He will not. I'm going to their patriot on if he's ever atacan we got to. I'm gonna get my picture with garfield you're going to be like i'm jake jake for and i'm going to be recording. That shit when he punches you in the face of that'll be awesome. He smacks you in the head with a skateboard. I will love basketball from half court if you do that jake afterwards. I'm going to walk you over to rob lie fell to have you get one with him to we're just gonna go one and then the other i don't rob field anything. Fuck that guy and craig. You got a lot better at the end there. Still some some guffaws by way better. I'm glad i just didn't. I didn't know if my audio was cutting out or not but i just had to kind of pretend it wasn't say guys. Thanks for letting me come. Ruined the podcast. It's always a pleasure. Good my god telling when you move and we'll have you back. Yeah well maybe. I'll get an apartment or something love it. Just run out in apartments separate for only record. How do you ended our state. How long do you think. I can sit in a panerabread before. They asked me to six that this guy is over here talking about his boss at getting bitten about stuff like in the first five minutes. I don't think long he this guy keeps talking about dick getting bit by a chihuahua. But he is eating visi broccoli soup that they have enough to say the fourth of bread bowl of. Because i because i probably have to buy food to stay in their bread bread bulls man. That's good shit who buys goods glutton that thought of that he a fucking gluttonous of a of a bread ball. Who's that fucking shit to eat the whole bowl of. oh yeah. they're they're like. Oh you like soup. Have you ever thought about eating a ball. You know my favorite cylinder. that comes out of the top. I like to rip just the soft bread out of that cylinder that and then the top the top cap of the loaf. It's like a little scoop and then you can start scooping the soup out in that neat that you're psychotic yeah non. That's that's the way you eat it. I can't wait for the the handy. Greg how how do you eat a reese's commercial. Well this is not shall seamless promotion but my latest episode. Just dropped today in. Its wall mounted a thirty two inch. Hdtv in the kitchen for my wife. So how do people. How do people listen to you without internet issues. Yes so i do. Have a youtube channel called amazing home projects with handy greg and You know i. It's just what it sounds like. I do home repairs. What's a little different about my channels. I don't actually know how to do any of this stuff. So you get to watch me kind of worked my way through that you go check it out. Everybody and greg's videos are hilarious. Well we're they're they're very funny. Yeah they're very good. They're very good. And you don't sound like a robot so yeah actually not always class. God damnit jake. What a week. Yes time for another week off after this shit. Oh my god. I almost like. This is like one of those. Like i don't really i don't even wanna in that so i just don't ever come back soon. Great during no. I can't wait to see the right up that. Brian gives for this episode. Oh god oh god it's going to be nothing like we talk about these movies this and that's it i'm not i'm there's there's nothing no cute little banter like this is like one of those episodes. I'm just going to throw into the into the ether into the world and just set it and forget it you know like when you put a cherry bomb in a toilet at school you just throw it and run and run and just ride. Yeah my god yeah. People were like. Oh thank god. Pcl's out now. Don't got bag now. no no. I wonder who's going to be more hated. After this me or brian film and second wife like for just fucking shit up and being awful probably probably you. At least she can blame drugs. I did not do any drugs so i. I can't blame that. One hundred percent of our listeners are going to listen to where as they won't watch dark side of the reeks so i'll hold a unique position of hate in the community now that i didn't hold before. Trevor ruining the podcast. Everyone wants to be developed greg. Embrace it yeah. Is there like what episode numbers this brian. Three seventy nine is there like before seventy nine and after three seventy nine now in the history of the show where this was just the moment where there's like there's like a b c a d. Yeah like there's like the before. Greg it'd be an eight hundred eighty after had one episode too long right three seventy nine guy. This is the god this is so bad. Jake no i. Usually i try to even just like bullshit. Some redemption at this point. I can't even muster it hang its top top fifty percent. Get the fuck outta here. You can't even surprised. I'm surprising able to even fucking get that sentence out there without turning a new goddamn robot. I mean you know. Look i listen. Every episode of this podcast. I love it the first two with that that other guy. That's not leftover anymore. Those those weren't as good as this one was. You know how he was on. He was on for like twenty episodes. We'll see. I didn't even remember that. So they can't be as good as this one now. Yeah fucking this episode is brought to you by sky net. Dan greg test the riff on dan. Yeah you gotta gotta get attention anywhere. You go back and seven and a half years as throw under the bus. Oh yeah i'm sure there is. I don't know. I want to get into it right now. You know no no. Let's get into it and the one girl who kind of freaked out on that one episode and then that's a legendary episode top twenty five percent. Yeah at least. She had a good internet connections yet. That was the you're done. Jj kosovo trying to even come close to comparing this to that. The will i didn't. I was seeing it in a different light. If you were the host on that episode it would have been like the mitchells versus the machines. It's more like versus. Greg's are fucking internet that all right greg. Thank you so much for. Sort of twenty i try. I try really hard. Then fucked up thing. Jay z feels fucked up thing. Is greg those really bad. And he had no control over it. I know we make jokes. And it makes me feel bad. Because i know greg. It's like beaten himself up over it. Yeah we've had guest on. This happened to. They'd just take a fuck. You guys stand right now. No no not really you know i have all my gear. I'm like a little boy dressed up as superman right now. And i got my super suit on you. Guys are my superman. And i'm like oh there's superman and i'm like chasing superman because i want to be just like him. In superman takes off the roof of a building flies away and jumping. I just fall off that roof and just hit the pavement done. That was a great analogy. There greg just like superman is just like super mad. Hey jake let's put his episode. Let's put this out. It's misery what do you say. Please i don't think i've ever wanted to end in episode four three hours ago. Right before we go. I'm going to play the full version of the slide family stone. We're going to wrap on that. Okay jake i'm here i was. I was upset when greg came back through the yes well. Here's here's the fall versus. Here's the full version of my polite album. For sly and the family stone area go out dot com. Thanks bye thanks and you're welcome. Search thank you. So funky man me too. I'm bob over here. Hey was your wealth. Thank gosh wildcatters camp expression but thank you and you're welcome. Peter griffin painting doing this. You're welcome painting. Probably gone on too long. Not funny anymore. You're welcome painting. This show has really jumped the shock. Adnan outcome you're welcome. Yeah yeah we get it. Could they say that a lot don't they. 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Episode 379: Jupiters Legacy, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Wrath of Man, The Mosquito Coast, Yasuke, Tom Clancys Without Remorse, Benny Loves You, Together Together, Things Heard & Seen, Fried Barry

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Episode 379: Jupiters Legacy, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Wrath of Man, The Mosquito Coast, Yasuke, Tom Clancys Without Remorse, Benny Loves You, Together Together, Things Heard & Seen, Fried Barry

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I can tell just by the excitement in your head that we were back. dude now. there's no here's the thing you ever like is like everybody's like air. Hope you enjoyed that week off. You come back refreshed and shit not not the case at all man. I could go for a nap. It's like it's like it's like one week off is just like eating one cookie. You know what i mean you you fuck you. Go onto the the bozo. Gameshow jake the bozo show and you win a package of archway cookies. Andy only eat one of said archway. Cookies it's impossible. You've got to eat that second archway cookie. They're just so goddamn good. And i feel like man jake. I had one week off. It was one cookie. I could go for more cookies. Yeah yeah. I don't blame you. It was nice watching a lotta shit and hang out and hanging out with hanging good time. It was nice. It was not do it all the time. Shut the fuck up sir. You take you take more weeks off than ed mcmahon. Did he take a lot of time off. No it's true. Normally when i take a week off. It's not to just be a lazy by something else on the table. This time it was just like. I had no plans i know. Yeah yes you got to enjoy it as well. Yeah it was fun giving this second archway cookie though. That's what i say What's your favorite archway cookie. Make this one. It's like an oatmeal cookie and inside. It's got like this raspberry jam. It's not a jelly. it's a jan. They're like fuck day jelly bullshit. We're going full jam on this man and and it's good. It's my favorite. Like sometimes i eat it differently. Sometimes i e all around oatmeal on the outside and then and then i just saved the jam at the end and sometimes i just go straight for the game. It's like eating a vagina jake. It seriously it's like. I mean you can mix it up. You know i. Sometimes i flick it with my tongue. Sometimes it's got a headache and it doesn't want me to do anything i was gonna say except there's no way to cook. He prefers but apparently doesn't does does not alone. Jake we are not alone. We are joined by a one. Mr handy gregg welcome handed greg. I'm imagining you. Were all sweaty with your face covered jelly and it's really disturbing. It's not jelly. It's jam sir. I don't wanna get the correction. Tuesday for archway cookies apologies. I don't wanna. I don't wanna undermine their brand at least it's not preserves. Oh god don't even get me started on that now man. Welcome greg how you pin. I'm good i'm good. I am recovering from a really bizarre and anticipated injury. Yesterday that occurred. I'm scared. what'd you you do so my wife and i a few months ago. Our our dog jeeter passed away very sweet dog. He was thirteen years old. We loved him so much dogs. We we've been rescuing rescue dogs right so we rescued the adorable little chihuahua. Her name izzy. And i'm laying on my back. And whenever i lay down she plops she plops right on kind of like my belly and we'll sit there so she's laying on my belly and she's chewing a bone and i'm wearing basketball shorts. She misses the bone and bites my dick as hard as she possibly can. And i'm not exaggerating bleeding profusely. I was bleeding. Like i have never bled before it was super super pain and think women do this once a month greg. You know this is not the same kind of thing very very paid. Just like mike. My co host is a moron. I didn't take that greg. No sell what the women go through. He's like no no much worse than that. Well but i don't. I am obviously going to get myself in trouble here. I have no idea what it's like on a monthly basis. But it's not like mother nature in the dick right. This is a chihuahua. That bit my dick whole as as possible and made me bleed like a stuck pig like it ruined my underwear because my underwear was all blood when you paid did like piss. Come out of the side your dick. It didn't it. Did last rate the whole a little bit. I think actually why did call a little bit. Which but it burned a lot. When i peed lot and i was worried i was going to get that firehose effect where it just sprays in every direction that i'd have to clean up my bathroom like it's out of control limping all over the place. It's like one of those. What are those law and things with the wacky line thing. Kid the the other thing and i know this is disgusting but i just have to. This is what was going through my mind so then i know it was going through your dick. That dog's teeth pretty much so then a little dried blood like it was. I was bleeding right. Where the p. comes out you know. Yeah where i can't. I just want to reiterate like this is how we're starting off the episode listeners. This is the story. This is how this is how the episode he got hurt. I knew it was about to go the streets. I didn't know exactly how i knew. This is my genitals were involved. I did so. I had some dried blood there and i'm like what if the blood dries and like seals it up and then when i p p blocked up you know he's just got like this big water balloon dick so i watch you when the listeners to know i am recovering very unpleasant i did have probably a twenty minute span of time where i debated going to get stitches. My wife was out with her friends last night at a winery and i did call her and interrupt her. Tell her that. I might go to the hospital to get dick stitches. Winery with their friends. And she's she's like. I got my own husband whining at home. And then of course. I saw tiny little dog bit as i saw her friend at a little league game and she had heard the whole story already so they had a little giggle over it. You know but i. I don't think as a right now. I need any stitches. Oh my god that's insane. You're a real trooper making here this week. I'll anything for you. Guys they don't make a hallmark card for that you know. They don't surrey. Sorry a trauma. Bit your deck like that. That angry old lady from hallmark. I don't know what her character is. But you know the the insulting old lady. That's on every card k. Bozo has your dick whole hit. Then you open it up. And she's like don't worry about that. Dried up blood. You'll be little dick whole anyway. A little a little flap for a twenty dollar bill and their two. Oh my god. I did not expect the episode. Start with the story dick grech. I knew i knew there'd be some kind of phallic story to begin the episode true. We're back we're back. We took a week off man compared to dick story like that. I want to think brandon daily listener brand daily. I'm not familiar with brandon daily. But he sent a donation. I want to thank him sincerely for sending the donation thanks brandon. We budget appreciate it absolutely absolutely. Yeah i yeah. I use that one to reactivate my ails jake. Oh wow i got an email reactivate. They'll give be the first three months for free. I was so close to clicking it. I didn't get that email. They know they got me by the by the balls. Like a that. Chihuahua and greg. I would've gladly taken a bite to the sack as long as the balls but as long as the ball didn't get hit if the ball got hit. Forget it but just that. I would rather take a bite to the sack aside. Let's let's put a. let's put out a facebook pulled. Drake was iraq. My power rankings. To i think the worst is punctured the ball. That would be a nightmare. And then after that is the jack and then after that is the sack but just empty empty sack by power. Rankings where i want to get. I want to know what the listeners think. I'm kidding i don't really care that's our next contests almost your power. Rankings if you watch the colonel area we'll send you a copy of hills with three. I don't think i've ever seen any of those movies. Man i never have either. Are they real. Yeah three of them. Yeah remember that taco bell dog that got cancelled. Insulin racist super racist all right anyway. All right So let's jump it on. I tunes reviews. Got one of them this week. Discharge all right. I what comes from. I only cuss from josh. L. m. and it's titled the community. It's a five star and it goes on to say this podcast is built the best community. I am forever grateful for brian and jake for building an amazing space of people and ideas. Honestly that's probably blowing them a little too hard and they put the asterik and blowing like they were worried about tunes. Removing this one for using the word blowing off honestly that's probably blowing them a little too hard but they do a great job. Also i miss j that man vs superman batman versus superman episode holds a special place in my heart and that comes from josh l. m. secret review. We need to get back on again. You need to find a reason. Yeah maybe we'll get him back on. We're going to get him on a regular episode. It seems like last two times we've had him on. We've had him on for like a movie episode. Let's get him up a regular one shooting the shit. Yeah that's a great idea. Yeah yeah so thank you. Josh album stands for not sure. I'm i'm thinking how greg gotta guess. Lucky moose fucker chemo slacker. Josh lucky mossbacher. He's yeah greg issue. Be my co-host i asked. Jacob got nothing. I go to you and you throw out diamonds like it's only because i had another like three seconds to think of something. Jake what are you got. You got now less money off and say now and two weeks and we got one fucking. It and serve you. Well we got. We got one of these fuckers. That fucking just changes. There's i'm not reading those. I'm with those call that people they just change them up so they can fuck and have a platform on our show and think they're cute change in reviewing shit. You're done you're done by to the dick fucking one review neither sicario winners. Let's go over our winners for the united sicario movie got five winners coming up here. 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But you'll win a twenty five dollar american express gift card and all you have to do is. I'm going to send out a tweet in a facebook post and all you have to do is re tweet it or share the facebook post. Then screenshot it. Send it to me comments at pop culture leftovers dot com comments pop culture leftovers and then title that dan michael. Chang and i'll pick out the same five winners that i do every week. Next week i discovered joe starts already spending that twenty five dollars and he's just going to buy five more. Vod movies so you enter the contest and other contests. I was thinking random. Thought here. I was think i did watch the. I watched the first two episodes of that. Dan michael j. And i like it. I think i think it's pretty good. It's got it's got potential. Yes just the first episode. And i liked it quite a bit too. Yeah yeah so check out the show. That michael hbo. Max i think it's six episodes. I think they them all but check it out. Hbo max hours. I was thinking about. This is just a random shower. Thought that i had and it's it's that that movie the francis mcdormand movie. That won best picture. No badly nomad land. I was thinking about a a parody. Movie it's a movie where mads mikkelsen gets kicked out of a bunch of different countries and it's called nomad's land about mads mikkelsen. The actor getting kicked out of multiple countries. He's got a very sad face. You'd be perfect for that movie. Yeah that'd be great. A booby wet. Lots of zoom in on him looking very put off an driving around thinking about that chuckled to myself. Thought i'd share. Did i smell an oscar for ads. Oh also i'm in the very early stages. Jake greg of what i'm calling i'm calling. I'm workshop in the name but it's a it's a plight polite album remix now. I'll explain it. I'm the very like. I said i'm in the very early creative stage is but it's a plight album remix and i wanted to play just a sample of what i've put together. So far if you guys would entertain me all right. This is from. This is peter frampton from frampton. Frampton comes alive and this is baby. I love your way. This is from my from my early polite album. Remix and so. That's that's basically how it will go. i do. I thought you were going to say please. Before the chorus of the song. Now now i haven't extended. I have an extended version of it. This is my second entry same song but the second entry in my polite album remix. I might throw this in as a bonus track but yeah check it out here. We go frampton comes alive baby. I love your way. This is entry to as if you really do appreciate aren't gratitude. Yes if you're in the front row at that concert yes and you actively say you're like a very loud clear you're welcome. The artist obligated to give you like the return head. Nod like just acknowledging that you said. You're welcome i at that point. I think you're being escorted out of the concert. But i didn't stop there. I didn't stop there with my plight. Album remix wanted to play this one. I'm very proud of this is the i'll just let you listen to the song this from sly and the family stone town packed. Thank god thank god. This goes on for another three minutes guys. I had to listen to the original ever again. Never i hope you've prepared. Natalie merchant for us have you know i don't know i i said i'm in the very early stages of this because i would never ask anything of you because you do so much for the community. This must happen. Earnestly you've respond. Yes yeah can. I make one other polite requests in a second here we got. We're going back to the that thanks. That goes on for another couple of minutes. I'll play the full thing at the very end of the episode. If you wanna listen to that nonsense. I'll play the the full cut of that song. That's fucking awesome. You need to do the golden girls theme next Like i said. I'm in the very early stages right now to see how like the you've got a whole album coming together here. 'cause the one that i rudely interrupted your song and again i just. This is just a humble. Asked brian atlantis. Morissette's thank you. I would just love to hear that. Okay all right yeah. We'll take suggestions on this one and we'll take suggestions on this one but yeah having a lot of fun with that one. I feel like there's a lot of artists saying thank you and there's really nothing in return. We don't show our appreciation. no it's bullshit. It's about time someone stepped up. Yeah yeah so it's my plight album. Remix just worked shopping. The name to i don't think you nailed the nagging. I've wasted everyone's time i disagree. I think this is going to be the episode. Everyone finishes here the remix all right. Let's jump into. Let's two weeks off and that's when i come back with jay you coming in hot. We should take more weeks off. It's terrible god all right all right guys. Let's pop pop. Leftover reviews good bad pop where we're talking about the things in the previous weeks that we either watched read. Sometimes we rate these things and if this is your first time listening we'd like you to be familiar with our rating system. The rating system is simple. If the leftovers don't like something they toss it if they do like something they suggest you tasted and if it's brilliant it gets a tupperware rating if all the leftovers love it then it gets the pinnacle of success a tupperware party all right so i'm going to start off good pop this week with something. I've been doing for two weeks now and i'm going to continue to do it up until the new release. I'm talking about the fast and furious movies. So june twenty fifth is when f nine drops in theaters. I have seen when they first came out. I did watch the first three fast and furious movies. And then i just dropped off the franchise and so what they've been doing. Is this website fast fast. Fridays dot com or something like that. I've been posting the link on facebook and on twitter. But if you go there you can see participating theaters that are playing the fast and furious movies every friday in the theater. And there's a code that you can enter at the any you purchase and then you can get your ticket parade. So i went to the markets theater. And i watched the fast and furious last week and then last night i went and saw two fast. Two furious watch both of these for free. And i like the ipad furious movie. I saw it when it first came out. Twenty years ago and hadn't seen it sets same goes for two fast two furious and then i also saw tokyo direct. And but i'm going to go to theater every week and with the fourth film. That'll be the first movie in the franchise that i haven't seen that i will be watching and then i'm gonna be watching them all the way up to eight and then when nine comes out we'll we'll talk about that movie but yeah let me talk. This is so cool being able to watch in the theaters. Let me start off by saying that. It's so cool that they're doing this because sitting home and watching him. I think it'd be completely different experience for me. I'm enjoying the theater experience a lot more because you got a crowd there. You got there not packing these theaters. They're like thirty forty percent capacity. But you got enough fans that are going out to see these movies that it makes it fun and you get the big screen and all the sounds and everything. I'll tell you one thing. I haven't seen that first. Basset furious movie. I remember very little about it. Until i started watching it again and i was just like holy shit. I remember now twenty year old. Brian saying this point break with cars. Like oh yeah totally. It's like do you like point break. Well how 'bout point break with all that damn surfing and more cars. Because that's what you get. And i fucking loved it man. I had a blasted that movie and then last night went and saw two fast two furious. And this is the one where he teams up yet. Dom gone Diesels gone and teams up with tyree skips in as roman peers and their undercover age undercover working with us customs service agent. Monica fuentes played by eva mendez. To bring miami based druglord carve erron roan down and my god fucking blast this movie. It's super fun. Oh my god. Therese gibson was super funny in this movie. And there's this really disturbing scene where they're like threatening you got this bad drug lord played by cole hauser. Who's going after this after this detective trying to get this detective to give them a fifteen minute window so they can pull off this cash iced and the threatening this guy. They're pinning him down. They put a fucking bucket over his stomach and they put a rat in the bucket and their heating. This thing up with like a fucking torch. Oh your partner is crazy. The only way the only place for this ready to go is down there talking about fucking this wreck gone through this guy stomach to get out of this fucking heated up bucket and i was just like oh my god. This is so fucked. This isn't a fast and furious movie. I doesn't game of thrones the same fucking trick. I i saw that somewhere else. But i'm trying to remember where but man arias held held captive. And they do it to someone where she's held captive a ton of people. Remember in the original. Alan moore's watchmen the whole like it takes you five minutes to saw through the handcuff or ten to saw through or two two minutes. This author your wrist. Alan more got ripped off so many times on that. You can't even count you know. Yeah yeah loving seeing these. I'm going to get both of these. A tupperware blast with both of them. I really hold up to and you had. Those movies are made for the theater so i. I'm not surprised that you have more fun going to see him. That way. i mean just just big bombastic movies with great sound. Yeah yeah yeah. I'm dob show up at the very end of too fast and furious. He does not unless it's a post credits scene. I didn't stick around for because he does not now. I mean that's one of the things like i remember. When he came back in the fourth film and going forward he would always say. This is paul walker's franchise. This is paul walker's franchise 'cause like he was there from the beginning. Even though he wasn't in the third one he would always vin. Diesel would always say it's paul walker's franchise so let you had that third one. I remember the third one takes place in the future. And i think that's just kind of jumped out. I hope that i enjoyed the third one more than i enjoyed it the first time because i wasn't the biggest fan of the third one but we'll see what it's like watching it in the theater again and yeah i'm going to be going. You can purchase the tickets like they go on sale. Fridays and my tickets go on sale. Like i think it's like seven thirty in the morning. And then i just pick my pick my. I've been sitting in nine every week. So that's that's hilarious. That's very vide- so yeah i'm loving it. Man i'm loving. I'm absolutely love going to the theater. And seeing these movies so yeah. I'm going to do this every week. I'm gonna watch all these movies in the theater. I think that's the way they're supposed to be watched. And i'm glad that that they're doing this. I'm glad that universal setting this up and free tickets man. You can't beat it man. You just go to that website and you put it in the fucking code and you're good to go. I love it so talk about the later in the series and see what you think those kind of the worst but then from there it's like an adrenaline rush. Yeah yeah yeah. We'll get into it. I'll be. I'll be going every week. Now i'll get you. I'll give you updates every week on these movies for all mankind season. Two finale greg. You watching this. I am still on season. Okay you need to. You need to catch up man. It's great things who tupperware season two. It is phenomenal. Oh my god and the way it ends. It was just an incredible season. This show just continues to be just a fucking four. So i love this great writing. It's i mean the series like the hook is at the beginning is like what if the soviets landed on the moon. I you know and like you know what would the us how the us react and like the space race just keeps going and going and going like the second season we got guns on the moon. We've got people shooting and other people on the moon. And i know i'm making it sound like it's this fucking like war thing and it's all crazy it's not and it is crazy but it's not like i'm not talking. It's not like starship troopers on the bucket moon. This is it feels very real like this. Could be historically real if things went this other way where russia landed on the moon. I like and they're actually using real people that were involved in the space program at the time the second season. There's like just little things that change in history that that don't deal with like the space race like john lennon isn't murdered and you know you see a little bit of that. That's not a big thing but like i- tupperware the fuck out of the second season. It was phenomenal. They give you a tease at the end of the episode as to where season where season three is going and i am super super super excited for season. Three i cannot wait. I did watch also the invincible finale greg. Did you watch invincible. Did i absolutely would you think about the season. Overall the highest of tupperware so i mean i loved invincible season one low loved. It absolutely loved it. You know when you think about the finale. I'm not sure that we've seen human death on that kind of scale and any medium it absolutely was a gore fest. It was really breathtaking. Just incredible damn i honestly. I can't believe that they went where they went so early in the episode. You know what i mean. I was i was thinking like. Oh they're just gonna leave this on kind of like a cliffhanger like this whole like maybe we'll get this big reveal at the end of the up no it comes out with fucking guns blazing right at the beginning. You know what. I mean just like right out of the gate you jump into it and my god that that finale was the highest tupperware's and when you're talking about gore fast holy shit man that's subway that subway train subway was insane in. You know what. I what i really loved about this finale. It's not just gore for the sake of gore gore. Because this tells us that to omni man we're insects. That's it every person on demand kills reinforces. That idea that to us were nothing. We're he has no compassion. No care absolutely nothing but his but his mission i. It's it's really so well done and it absolutely earns the right to show us what it shows us in that episode. Yeah yeah i i loved it Jake did you drop off. I bet you dropped off this one. No i haven't washed anymore. But i i do plan on binging the series at some point i. I didn't realize it was just going to be eight episodes and we're done. It feels like this thing started. Well they dropped. What was it two or three the first week and so i mean we had fi- i think five weeks after that where you're watching stuff but it just just an amazing amazing season. Robert kirkman was on the most recent episode of batman. Beyond and talking about the finale with with kevin smith end. Marc bernardin great. Listen i don't have any problems town people about other podcast jank. I really don't who gives a fuck. We're all buddies everybody's so fucking like protective over their listeners and shit and it's like yeah. I love our listeners. But man there's other shit to listen to if somebody finds something if somebody finds something better than us and they stopped listening to us and i can't fault them for that. I'm not i'm not. I'm not trying to fucking keep my listeners chained up to a radiator in the basement keep getting vod movies. They better gotta come every week. You gotta come. Every week neidl sicario. That's some big winners this week. So yeah oh yeah so. Yeah invincible invincible. Oh my god. I love at the highest. The tupperware's for me greg. I i couldn't agree more. I can't wait for season two. This is one of those rare and season three which were both green light. If i'm not mistaken but yeah i This is one where i'm actually gonna. I'm going to hold off on picking up the source material as great as it sounds. I i know joe stark. Who's been on previous episodes fan. I wanna see how this plays out in animation. You know obviously when the ends. Maybe i'll i'll read the series. They say it is different in the book they do. They do make some changes and stuff like that. But yeah i on the first season i such such an incredible story and the entire cast just did an amazing job j. k. Simmons is incredible so fucking. It's it's i can't like sometimes i just can't believe like the cast that they put together on this thing it's a stacked just fucking stack Storage wars season thirteen. It started nice. I'm six episodes state. Brandy and jared divorced not divorced. They never got married but they were together for twenty years. They split up now. They're going to the auction bidding against each other. It is the it meant. The heat is on this season. And that's not just for publicity. Think legitimately are there any trust me. I've looked into it. Yeah they're they're both with different people now. They've got like two kids together and they're both with different people. Of course they're doing it on the show ratings and shit but like yeah. They're not together anymore. Yeah she he's with somebody else and she's with. I think like a producer or something like that on the show or something but yeah. They're both with completely different. People now wasn't the story that she was like a stripper when they met or something like that or am i imagining that. I don't know. I have no idea i don't my my storage wars. Knowledge doesn't go that deep a stories doors wars historian i honestly. I didn't start watching storage. Wars until i fucking tore my achilles a few years ago. I had so much time on my hands that i was just like. Oh is ten seasons of this shit. Let's do it. So do you think they plant the shit and the storage. Oh one hundred percents like why is there a storage locker with totally worthless shit and then like a baroque flower vase. I've always excess. yeah. I've always thought that like there's a storage locker with like fucking a bunch of dirty laundry shed and then there's like this you know nineteenth eighteenth century fucking board game or something you know and it's like what the fuck. Oh i gotta go get going to take this to an expert. Is darryl still on their darrell. Darrell sheets is still on their fucking with a surgery or something. He had something and think he was coming back. He laughed and went through some surgeries. And shit. now he's back fucking what's his name. Dave hester is not gonna season yup. Yeah he's not on this season and then mary. She was on the first episode but mary went. She moved to texas or something she's done with the show too. So yeah i know i. It's just it's just that trash tv. That i watch late at night before. I go to bed. Wasp storage worth. See what they're fucking pulling out of these fucking units. Yeah any really cool. Finds you've seen are nothing really mentioned now. Really man i. I just a guilty pleasure for me storage wars. I went and saw at the theater. I went and saw the demon slayer movie mugabe train saw and it's set after the events of the first season and man i love i there's better episodes there's better episodes of the series but as far as the movie goes i give it a tupperware. I absolutely loved it and i couldn't. I can't stop thinking about it like i to. I actually want to go back and watch it again before. It leaves theaters but as soon as as soon as over i was like looking for ren goku figures i'm like i gotta go figure i still haven't pulled the trigger on a ringo figure but I loved it. I give it a tupperware. I thought it was. If you're into demon slayer if you love that first season. I think you'll love this movie. It's a lot of fun there are. You've got the the demon slayer core. They're investigating the mysterious disappearance of forty people aboard the moving train. And i love the movie. I can't wait. i wanna see it again. I wanna see it again. I i missed it. And i max played it and i'm expert one night have been called. See it on that big screen but then the next day mortal kombat mortal combat took the screens. But i did see it in. I did see it on a big screen which was nice. So but Would have been nice. Seems like a lot a lot of the do their movies. Right in the middle of the series. And it's like they're almost like little side stories that don't necessarily like super affect cannon. But they're interesting enough to still be really and they put a little bit more money into the animation on him. It seems this as far as affecting the overall story. I think you'll definitely want to watch this one. Because you've got some main characters and big things happen with some main characters. I did watch the dubbed version which i enjoyed overall but some of the voices didn't work for me but overall it was good overall. It was good so that together together. This is a movie that i saw in the theater. A young loner becomes a surrogate mother for a single middle aged man who wants a child. Their unexpected relationship soon challenges their perceptions of connection boundaries and the particulars of love. This is a comedy drama. It's written and directed by nicole. Beckwith the film stars. Ed helms pattie harrison pignataro julio torres in anaconda anaconda from penn fifteen. And you've got ed helms who's playing a a single guy who's been in a relationship with women. They haven't worked out but he's always wanted to. He's always wanted a child and so he's his forties and he's wanting a child and he's had a successful at summit successful career as an app developer he developed. This app called loner. And it's just an app or you look at people like people's pictures on your screen and if you like them you can you can like them ican so she can swipe that you like them or you can swipe to the right and never see them again. So it's the dumbest app ever you never. I'm sure that's real. You never contact anyone in the app like you can either you. Swipe left that you like them and then you can look at them whenever you want to or you. Swipe right and you never see this person again. And that's the half and it's called loaner so but he starts to interview different women about you know about being the surrogate mother for his child and settles on on this one woman. Anna played by patti harrison. And i thought the movie is going to go one way and it goes a completely different way. He starts to get like super stalker around her. Like like checking up on her and making sure like what are you eating. Who are you hanging around with like. There's this one scene where like a random guy comes out of her apartment and he finds out that she had sex with this guy. And he's like. I don't want some random pinas around my baby. He's like my. My baby is in there. Absorbing this guys ejaculate i don't want that blah blah blah and i was like okay. This is where we're going with this. This is going to be like this. Really weird comedy. Where he's kind of super sought stock. Russian it doesn't turn into that it's way more serious than that. And you get some great scenes with this with these two people. He's in his forty. She's in her twenties and they're you know buying a crib together. She gives him like a little bit of help as far as like raising the baby later when the girl she shows him how to teach the girl you know how to put a tampon in and all this stuff and and i mean it's funny. There's very it's very funny. And there's they even address the fact that like oh. They've been spending so much together. Could there be some sort of like romantic interest between the two. And have this talk about like she's like you've seen too many woody allen movies and i fucking i lost my that's awesome. I thought that that was fantastic. It's such a great movie. At the end they had a acuna with the director and at hallam's and pattie harrison and that was great found out that she was cast. Harrison has cast as as a nicole founder as the lead actress. Because it's like some jimmy fallon clip. She did years before she was like. Yeah that's that's why. I want to play anna and it was shot before the pandemic. And it's crazy like this was shot before the pandemic and it's just coming out now but i give it a tupperware. I loved it. I thought this is one of those. Like if it drops on amazon or or net flicks. This is one to watch. It's called together together with ed. Helms ed helms. I've never seen him do kind of like a like a serious dramatic role like this like he does play like the super awkward guy really well but he also he does it in this in more of a dramatic way than i've ever seen him play a character and and it it really worked and this is like one of those indie films like eighth grade or lady bird that just kind of like comes out of nowhere that i think more people should be watching but of course those came out before the pandemic and i don't think this is going to get a lot of attention and it should. It's really really good. It's a you know. I think it tackles this in a more realistic way and has some great messages as well. So i highly recommend together together when you're able to watch this. Let's talk about the mitchells versus the machines dropped on net flicks and add. This is an animated. Cgi movie young. Katie mitchell embarks on a road trip with her proud parents younger brother and a beloved dog to start her first year at film school but their plans to bond as a family soon get interrupted when the world's electronic devices come to life to stage an uprising with help from friendly robots. The mitchells must now come together to save one. Another and the planet from their new technological revolution extracted by mike rhonda in his feature debut co directed by jeff fro and written by rhonda and row with phil. Lord chris miller and kurt albrecht serving as producers stars. Voices of abbey jacobson danny mcbride mile route off. Rhonda eric andrei olivia colman fed. Arms on beck bennett. John legend chrissy teigen blake griffin and conan. O'brien and yeah. This dropped on net flicks greg. What did you think about this one. I see a lot of kids movies. Because i have kids as you guys know And i think whenever you see a kids movie these days you kind of ask yourself two questions and this is gonna sound a little cheesy. But the first question is going to pull on my heartstrings. Is it going to emotionally. Impact me right and for this one. The answer to me was yes. I think definitely. We had a lot of emotional impact. You know this is really a story. Among other things about a family. But it's also a story about a father and his daughter and the daughter's going away to school and she's growing up and how that impacts their their relationship. The other question is did it. Make me laugh and i would say for me. Not every joke in this movie lands but enough do i'm gonna give this movie. A high tasted overall What i'll say is this definitely is going to exceed your expectations as a movie. That's sitting on netflix. Subscription to watch for free. I don't know if this is as good as the best of the pixar films but it's a to me. This is a damn good animated film. Dacian is spectacular. I mentioned that some emotional punch. The there's this running joke with the dog. There's a dog that to me is kind of like the star of this movie. And i don't wanna spoil the joke because it really works its way into how the plot resolves itself but i. I've really enjoyed this movie again. I'd i'd give it a high tasted i'm going to give it a notch below tupperware and the reason why is because when you tupperware. A computer generated one of these animated movies. It has to be like a forever classic. I don't think this is that. I think this is a very very good family film. Okay all right. Yeah jake what you think. Yeah this actually was an absolute uproar for me. I i kind of think it is a forever classic. I fell in love with the animation style. It's just of really unique style where hand-drawn stuff going on top of cgi. And i mean maybe the closest thing. I can compare it to some of the stuff. They didn't spider verse with the sound effects. But it's a little bit more. Surreal than that. Where you're just seeing all these different images and hand-drawn stuff going on top of the cgi thought. The colors were really bombastic. In this i. The score was super amazing. The voice cast was phenomenal Man i fucking love this. I thought the the comedy really hit for me for the most part Especially the beck bennett fred. Armisen robot characters probably to my favorite moments in the whole thing Yeah i really love this. I didn't really expect to like this as much as i did. But man this was a grand time a must watch. Vr happened netflix subscription. Yeah i think this is supposed to hit theaters. And then netflix got it. I could be wrong now. But i think it was supposed to be theatrical release. It had to been feels like they spend a lot of money on this. Yeah i i love this too. I love this. I'm going to get a tupperware as well. I i laughed. I think my only nitpick with it is. I feel like the younger brother character. Kinda sucked like knowing. He was annoying Honestly i wrote that down at brian. You speak but yeah i agree. Yeah like i thought he was funny at the beginning when they were like okay. You know this kid loves dinosaurs. And he's calling random people in the phone book. Do you wanna talk about dinosaurs with me. And i was like that's funny and then as the movie went on like this character was just super annoying and not funny and just like super super awkward in the way that he just did not fit in with this movie. They have just done so much they could have done so much. Different things with this character to make it better. That was my only nitpick really with this movie. Is the younger. Brother character sucked. Everybody else was fantastic in this movie. I thought danny mcbride's character like the way. He was super annoying but he was supposed to be like he was super like. I don't know very very parental. And and just like the way that he the family dynamic was with the screwdrivers and all this weird shit and it was fine. It was fine. I love the voice. Cast thought maya rudolph was great. I loved her character especially like and where she almost joe bill. Yeah the kill bill. I love that. I really got a kick out of it. What what were you saying about. The younger brother character greg. I'm sorry i would have been really curious. Creatively how it would have been different. Had they cast the child to voice that role because part of what was a little funky to me is it was an adult in and it just again. It felt like a little clunky. I agree i yeah. I think a child in a sort of more earnest performance leading into the awkward sort of the character has kind of an awkward story. That i it's kind of charming but it just felt weird with adult in that you can get jacob tremblay. I mean at least right. Yeah i he was. He's done comedy. He was in good boy. So i mean gets you get a child. It was a little weird hearing because like every once in a while. Just come out of the boys like this is not a child actor. This is a fucking full grown man so they had a real as kids vibe with the the voice like tone vote character of it because he's had such a deep voice the little brother character. Yeah i was not a fan. The little brother but i loved i did love the robots. I thought the robots were hilarious. The furby scene had me dying. Like like let the dark harvest begin. And i was just like oh my god. This is fucking. This is great. This is great. I loved it eric. Andre was fun. I thought eric andre did a great job so i go to tupperware man i. I was pleasantly surprised that they could definitely do sequels. I think like of course. We're probably thinking like they could definitely do. You know the mitchells versus the aliens or the zombies or possibly even dinosaurs next so with the kid being a big fan of dinosaurs. I think that would be an interesting. I think this is definitely going to be getting sequels for netflix. This is huge for net. Flicks thing that they can kind of like you know bank on people you know. Keeping their subscriptions net flicks. I think this is worthy of people coming back and rewatching this kids. I i think this movie could be on a loop at some house households. You know it's interesting. It makes me wonder how i mean. Sony animation is a real player in the space now because they did into this fighter verse and now and now this film. I mean you know lord of course had roles in both but my goodness. That's pretty pretty good. Home runs in a row for them. Yeah and it's huge for netflix's to pick this up and they also have the spider verse on the service. Don't they netflix's now they do. Yeah yeah the mitchells versus the machines. I highly recommend it. I honestly. I can't say that. I was surprised when i heard that phil lord and chris miller involved. I was like man. I think this is going to be. I think it's going to be pretty good. I can't wait to watch this one jupiter's legacy speaking of things that dropped on netflix legacy it's follows the story of the world's for superheroes who received their powers in the nineteen thirties but as they pass the torch to their children. Tensions arise as the young superheroes to prove their worth struggled to live up to their parents. Legend in a world where the old rules no longer apply. It's from the image comic book. By mark miller and frank quietly and the netflix series is created by steven s. Tonight he did the star spartacus show and he did some. He did some other stuff on stars like whatever i don't even know. How many spinoffs they. But he was involved in that shit. It starts josh duhamel. Ben daniels leslie bibb lena. Porous andrew horton. Mike weight and matt lancer and i jake. I read the comic book when it first came out. I think it was like twenty thirteen or fourteen when it came out. And i read the comic. So it's been a good eight seven eight years since i've read it and as i'm watching this a lot of it was kind of like coming back to me and but i wanna know what you guys thought. What did you think. Greg of jupiter's legacy and how many episodes did you watch. I think it's eight episodes. So i did watch one episode so everything i say of course is in the context of one episode. I think overall the biggest challenge with a show like this. It's really trying to sort of be subversive in the superhero genre. That's exploded really over the last twenty years now and when you talk about a show that kind of subverts expectations in the superhero genre. You're talking about the boys. You're talking about invincible. Which we talked about twenty minutes ago. You're probably talking about David lindelof watchmen series umbrella. Umbrella academy was next on my list. I unfortunately this is not as good as those things. One episode through. That doesn't mean it's not good. It just means to me one episode in. It's not as good as those other things and because of that my sense is i did not read critical reviews before the first episode. I think critics might be a tad tough on it. But i maybe things go south after episode one in a way that. I'm not anticipating I thought Josh duhamel was great. I loved less leslie bibb when they go to sort of a period setting i think it the show looks rich and vibrant and loved what it looked like one one real issue. I do have with the show went. Episode in an actor named andrew. Horton plays the character of paragon. Who makes a very interesting choice. At the end of the first episode i thought andrew horton's performance was very very poor in in that first episode. He's he's like the kit harrington of this thing he call did not have any charisma whatsoever. He's very good looking but he probably has the again. I don't know the comic series. But i'm thinking of k. This young character who's trying to live up to his dad. Who's essentially superman. Who has this incredibly strict code. Who decides to go in a different direction. That should be the most interesting character on the show. And unfortunately it's the worst performance on the show through one episode. So i would give it a tasted. I am excited to keep watching. Because again i think i think people might be being a little too tough on the show. I know a lot of complaints about the action looking like power rangers. The the action was find me perfectly fine. This is television. It's good enough but I'm excited to watch more. It just might not be in the same class as some of those other shows i mentioned. Yeah yeah jake What did you think how many episodes i watched the first four episodes of this I'm a lot more down on greg. I think it's going to be a low taste it for me. I actually thought the first episode was the best episode. And i was probably at a high tastes it after the first episode just lots of intrigue of where they're going to go with this and then i thought the next three episodes just kind of meandered so much and there's really like that giant hook is just yet to happen and it's like how many of these episodes i have to watch before. There's like that lure that really gets me in. Also the acting is pretty poor released. Show other than josh do. Hamas does a great job. I think almost everyone else's is pretty poor. And i i think the flashbacks kind of looked kinda shitty to like just a production that they spin on. This doesn't seem like they could have thrown some more money at this and made this look a lot better and i just. I don't know if i'm gonna continue or not if someone tells me that it's got up then. Tastic cliff anger at the end. If at the halfway point there's this giant fish hoek that'll get me. I might come back to it. But i think four episodes in and i'm pretty much done i. I'm just a little bit disappointed. Mark miller is one of my favorite comic book writers. And i read the first six issues of this comic book. I think it's a trilogy of of comics. But i never read past the first arc I don't remember disliking. That as much as i dislike this but i as well was having things. Come back to me as i watched this I don't know i. I think the pacing is kind of off. It does a little bit of a poor job of explaining its own mythology in an interesting way. That makes you that. You're dying to know more about this mythology. So i'm a little bit disappointed. That the first miller world outing on netflix. I thought it would have been a lot better i've watched all the episodes finished it today. As a matter of fact i will say that Instead of finishing this. Jake you just need to start watching the boys season one and season two everything. This does that did better. This tackles different things it does. I mean this. This is different when it comes to tackling like this superhero coat. That's been established like we do not kill. We do not get involved in government things in wars and things like that. This gets involved in that a lot more than i think like the boys does but i would still say. Watch the boys over this. Like if you're waiting for somebody to give you that thumbs up on jupiter's legacy and say yeah finish it dude. I'll i'll base. Come at them and say well. I think he needs to watch the boys one and season to a superior show. I think that the first episode was good like jake. I'd give the first episode. A honestly i'd give the first episode a a taste it. I would say the next three episodes are are low taste. It's and i think once you finally get to like the last four episodes it does start to ramp up and get better. I think that they could put a little bit more money into this to be quite honest with you. I think some of the special effects didn't look great. Some of the fighting in the choreographies. Not fantastic i mean. You're going to get that on the boys. That's that's why we go there. That's why we watch that shell. But it does tackle some tackling this code and really going after that like the do not kill code and and i think it's very interesting. Josh duhamel fantastic. In this i would give overall. I would give this a high tasted at the end of the day because i do think that the last few episodes are they pick up and it does get better. I will watch season two. But i'm not chomping at the bit for season two like i like. I'm chomping at the bit for invincible season. Two or the boy season three like those are just like just you know. I don't know man just like yeah. As far as the miller verse. starting on netflix. This is i was hoping honestly man by dave talking about making these movies at one time. And i think like with a bigger budget and and bigger actors behind this thing it could have been better but of course the series is going to be able to flesh out the story a little bit more. But you're right. Jake does the pacing. It does kind of meander and like checked out in. Like i think like some of this shit going on episode three and four. There's times where it's like. Oh man i'm really into what's going on in the present day and then that would flip for me in the next episode. Where i'm more interested in what's going on in the nineteen thirties. And now i don't give a fuck about what's going on in present day but like i think it all kind of comes together in the last couple of episodes where actually carrying about like what i. It's got enough to where you're getting into like what's going on to the present day what's actually happening back in the past. How did they get their powers. It starts to the last now. I'm invested in both of these stories. But it's still not as like captivating and as amazing as the storytelling that we got on the boys and invincible and keep comparing them. Because that's that's what this genre is doing. It's it's it's kind of like they're taking the superheroes and all the tropes and it's kind of like a deconstruction of that. That's what these shows are doing. It's a deconstruction of superheroes and comic books and know what we've come to love from the justice league adventures and it's taking elements of both and deconstructing them and trying to give like. How would this really play out in the real world. And i thought that this was interesting but i just think the boys and invincible do it way better. The invincible does it from the perspective of a teenager coming into their powers and their father being superman and the boys does it from like this. What if what. If the justice league was owned by a company a big company. And so i put a little bit more into the budget. Get a bigger cast on this one and maybe it would have been a tupperware because i think the comic book is superior. The comic book is superior. I give the comic book a tupperware over over the jupiter's legacy net flicks. I know the second season. Are they going to be going to be changing it up calling it. Jupiter circle series had its title. I bet they just keep it jupiter's legacy at they don't want to confuse people. I think they probably want or maybe they do what people think. It's a new series every time to get those big first episode us every true. Yeah yeah yeah i. i don't know the powers. Whatever that interesting you were kind of taken aback by the special effects. They have just like hidden valley. Look to when characters were flying or doing something that was almost distracting. Like you weren't like oh look at this wonderful new power this character. I've never seen explain it. It was just kind of like a mishmash of colors and energies and nothing really that interesting going on. Even the main characters power set was really not very well defined. Yeah point in the first four episodes. Yeah valley's a salad dressing isn't it. It is yeah he'll solid it's not hidden valley's not as good as some of the other salad dressings. That are out there. Though it's kind of generic one. Yeah i would take cans or newman zone over the hidden valley. It could stay hidden in my salad world. You know what i mean can. Can i ask you an opinion on something. Sure so it seems you know having read the comic and i'm sure you don't want to spoil it for people that are interested. I was hoping it was salad dressing related but go ahead no like we talk about salad dressing separately but it seems like this is going in the direction of like no country for old men for superheroes right. You know this. This generation is just wired differently in the tension that comes with that. Is that largely different from what we see in like kingdom come for example because it seems like kingdom come with kind of covering the same grounded. I know it covered that ground very very well. I just don't know if this has something different to say than kingdom come said about that. I didn't read past the first trade. Like jake so i mean i remember i remember. I remembered the big swath of this first season. Right at the end of the at the. I'd say like the last couple episodes. But i couldn't tell you it's a shame i i don't know i think i'm gonna take your advice and check out the boys before watching anymore this. I think i'm out on this. You'll the boys yeah. Did anybody watch dark. Side of the ring on vice. The new i watched I watched a new one that came yesterday to yes today. Yeah did you watch described as well. Yeah yeah the. Brian bryan filming. Who like yeah okay. I'll be honest with you. I didn't know who. Brian film in was because i i when i got out of wrestling i got i got out of wrestling. I'd say like in one thousand nine hundred ninety two is kind of like when i got out so like all this like attitude era and all this shit jake. It's like i walk monday night. Wars have no idea what that is. So i mean i got out of wrestling but i still love watching wrestling documentaries. Especially when they get into this stuff. And here's the thing people if you're not into like professional wrestling that doesn't matter like these shows dark side of the ring it into anything true crime you're going to get that in dark side of the ring like the same thing like as i know this is completely different but when we watch when we reviewing the last dance a that came out the chicago bulls documentary. You don't have to be into basketball. I think to appreciate that documentary. And all the things that they cover the same thing goes out of the ring. If you're a fan of anything true crime you're going to get something out of these out of the dark side of the ring series. This is on vice tv and this first episode was brian. Pill man and i was not familiar with brian. Pelmet at all. What was really cool about. This is like he was his tag team. Partner at one time was stone. Cold steve austin which. I have been on any watching. We tweak. They've got the biographies. They wrestlers and so i watched the stone cold. Steve austin one. I'm halfway through the rowdy. Roddy piper one. And they've also done a macho man randy savage one and those are fantastic. And i can't wait to get back those. But i'm glad that i watch that stone. Cold steve austin one. Because it really kind of like dug into like his relationship with brian perelman and then being the hollywood blonds tag team and man this this had everything in it man like. They really do great job. Vice does a great job at decision this is their highest rate is rated show and they do a great job with this and you don't have to be a pro wrestling fan at all in my opinion but jake where did you think about this have you. Have you watched the first two seasons. Have you caught up. Yes i about a month ago i binged the first two seasons like within like three days i watched it all man that bruiser that bruiser brody episode. Yeah your stuff was fucking every episode like even to stuff. I thought i knew so much about it was so insightful. They do a good job talking to the right people. Like i loved it. They have dave meltzer around so much on even on the old episodes they talked to him. Quite a bit Jim ross don't call this one like just a really the people that were there and know what's going on. Jim cornets on a lot. Jim cornet is well. Yeah and this was fantastic. I remember the. Brian kilmeade stuff and i remember like exactly what they were talking about. How it really bled the line between whether it was a character this guy was just out of fucking mind and you know we. We just love the guy because of that Not hollywood blonde era but as soon as you broke up with that and started doing the stuff like i vividly remember the bobby heenan stuff when he touched. Bobby bobby heathen freaks to fuck out and walks off set. Like i remember that just being such a big deal and for all intents and purposes we thought that was legit like we didn't think that was a storyline. So you just never knew what this character you know what was on the page and walt was him just be an absolutely bachelorette crazy but the stuff. I didn't know it was like the behind the scenes stuff with him wanting to make more money and him actually creating a bidding war between the two different companies and their monday night shows by leaving one comfy and going to another company to increase how much he could make from the company he left in the first place like there was just so much behind the scenes was part of the act was it. You know him just doing what he was doing. And this just had this. This was a tupperware by the way there was just so much to it and then just the intrigue of all the stuff with his family. I had no any of that. I was aware that his his son. Brian had started doing professional wrestling in the last few years that i was aware of but i didn't know any of the circumstances behind the different kids that he had different wives that he had the car crash that he had. It was just a ton of new information. Even if you think you know everything there is to know about. Brian coleman they they really scour it and wow i was just blown away. I was honestly surprised that melanie is most current wife when he died was willing to even talk about the really because fucking interviewed after he fucking died initially and she had no problem with that sound fake as all hell about the death of her husband. That's true that's true. They fucking offered her whatever kind of appearance fee for this and you know that she's probably who knows what the fuck she's blowing. That money on. I mean anything for a buck for that she she just she just came off as the biggest fucking gold digger in this episode and ruined relationships with their children. And man you can see. That drugs took their toll on her. Yeah they really try to make us sympathetic towards her but that never really like i always just thought she was just pure evil like her trying to separate the one daughter from her mother with really no basis grounds of a reason to do that accusing her of kidnapping when she was just trying to see her child Yeah it really made. Brian tolman widow look like a terrible person. Greg would you think. Is this your first introduction. Dark side of the ring. I haven't seen it. And this is a pretty riveting documentary Everything you guys said you know you were just talking about Brian perelman's widow and look all suicide is tragic and heartbreaking. This is one of the most tragic and heartbreaking stories of suicide. I've ever heard The absolute evil that was done to this woman and the circumstances of her suicide the way her child was stolen from her is really absolutely tragic and i don't remember her name but that new wife is one of the probably melania documented. Melanie is probably one of the biggest documentary. I have seen in a long time. She's easily as big of a a villain as are the tiger kings that we saw last year. Yeah yeah you know. It's what's really fascinating. Is these wrestlers. I i i am at best a casual wrestling fan. My brother grew up as a intensely huge wrestling fan. He still is he was always into. Wcw wrestling more than what at the time was wwf. Where i grew up in connecticut. Ironically it was the headquarters of wwf wrestler is all over town and stuff so we always had a little bit of a connection wrestling but somehow so many of these professional wrestlers just sort of like broken people so many of them have died young. They're you know. Websites dedicated to all of the stories of how many wrestlers died tragically and and died young. And i can't wait to dig into this story more i. I definitely really appreciated the look at brian. I had remembered him as fine. Brian but i had not remembered his later career because i think i hit drifted away from from wrestling. But when you think about it almost has like andy coffman quality to it. He said that they said that. Yeah it's really interesting stuff so no i. i'm gonna tupperware. This and i can't wait to Looks like this season three. I'll go back and watch seasons one and two absolutely you'll love it. Oh it's so. It's so good i mean. I think that they could do like you. Said like a lot of these wrestlers that have just like these tragic lives. A lot of them die early. I mean i don't see any shortage of stories for this. I really don't know ten seasons of this still have material. You're absolutely correct. And dino bravo out of curiosity i mean i know a little bit about dino bravo and his involvement in his passing. And i've got to see that. Yeah that's in the second season they do. Dino bravo yeah. I'm really excited to see what they're gonna do with ultimate warrior and dynamite kid. Later on this season those are two episodes. I'm really looking forward to. I couldn't believe the story about how people were so caught up in debt. Whatever whether or not it was fake or real that they actually thought he was having plastic surgery to make himself look like shawn michaels to be at opponent for shawn michaels like. They didn't even believe that he really had this. Car accident That's how like down the the well. This guy was just unbelievable. Yeah and oh my god anytime. They showed him post. You know a car accident fighting in the ring. I'm just like oh. I was cringing. Just like oh my god. I can't believe he's out there and doing this. He's got to be in so much balking pain and they were saying the guy can hardly walk in the airport but yet they were still booking them on these paper matches. Yeah yeah. I mean i mean the things that people will do to provide for their families and the keep to keep that money coming in. It's it's tragic. Yeah dark side of the ring. I'm telling you like you don't have to be into this. You don't have to be in a professional wrestling. you don't have to be into it. These stories are just captivating. I will i don't have to have vice either. You can watch all of it on youtube season one season two and even the new episode. There you go watch it on youtube. Yeah if you got a roku we can just watch youtube right there. So i top rate as well. I thought it was fantastic. I went. I went to the theater and i saw the new jason the movie wrath of man mysterious and wild-eyed a new security guard for a cash truck surprises co workers when he unleashes precision skills during a heist. The crew is left wondering who he is and where he came from. Soon the marksman's ultimate motive becomes clear as he takes dramatic an era of vocal steps to settle a struck by guy ritchie. From a script he co wrote with ivan atkinson and mark davies. It's based on the two thousand four french film cash truck by nicholas boo krief. And this is Ritziest fourth director. Oriel collaboration with jason. Stay calm and i've not the biggest fuck in guy ritchie fan like i love lock stock two smoking barrels when it came out and pretty much have been a fan of anything sense really except for what was that he was that the gentleman that came out last year or the year before yes. I liked that. I liked that quite a bit. Actually but that's like a twenty fucking year gap. I mean ninety eight. that's when to smoking. Blackstock and two smoking barrels came out and it's basically like a twenty year gap before like anything he's done again and he made some really shitty movies with this. Dan wife madonna in that area. Yeah i wasn't a lot of people love snatch i snatch so the movie brian how you feel about that. What's that and it was a joke. Oh brian your fucking around. Get to the movie that thing you said you didn't like snatch i was it was okay. Oh you're talking to you. Talking about jane yes i am. I'm so i'm going to just on. And i will stop. No i like. I like cock. You know that i do. I know you love smoking. Poll laxed back to smoking dicks. That's it all starts mcallen jeffrey donovan. Josh hartnett a laws alonzo. We talked about the boys earlier. Lonzo from the boys who When i got my picture taken with him and some of the other guys that to to lonzo is so happy to get his picture taken with anyway. He was so happy to be at sea to this was his first convention and the guy just like exuded fucking enthusiasm. He was awesome. Chron chris riley raul steo the ob up ray of skies woods also at this but wrath of man. I didn't expect much out of this movie to be quite is with you guy ritchie. I'm not the biggest fan. I was just like man. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna the end of this movie at all. It's two hours and those two hours flew by fuck in love this bug and movie man felt like a throwback to like it felt like a throwback to a late nineties action kind of like heist movie. It felt like a throwback to two movies like like ransom and the italian job and all those things kind of like mixed into one movie. And i fucking loved rap of man. I'm going to own this one. I'm going to own this one. I really thought it was great man like he joins up he he. He gets hired as a security guard guarding these cash trucks. And there's a heist on his truck and he's with josh hartnett and he fucking just goes off and it's not like john wick going off either it. It's just like he. it's so wild he just very. He's very precise when he shoots people but it's not it's not this gung through stuff that we're used to it. He does this in a different way. He's very intimidating when he does this and he's almost villainous when he he's going around killing and shooting these people that are trying to rob this truck. It's so wild and the way he just walks. It's very intimidating. He just walks. Pop somebody in the head. But i was just like what the fuck. Where does this guy story and this movie holds onto like what is really going on for quite a while and then the second act like it bounces around in time and you'll see one part of the story and then it'll bounce back in time you'll see another part of the story and then it all wraps up at the end kind of like a little bit. Like a like acquaint tino movie in a way. But i loved it man i fucking loved wrath of man. I i cannot recommend this enough if you're craving like a violent action. Revenge movie with a with a main a protagonist. Who you maybe shouldn't root for it. You feel like you can't root for at times but this is the movie to watch. Jason them is really fucking gun in it. And i think guy ritchie did a great job in this movie. Felt like such a fucking throwback to late nineties movies. And i loved it. I left theater. I was actually when i was going into this movie. I was just thinking about going to the theater the next day and watching two fast two furious and being excited about that and like i was like okay. I'll just watch this. I'm reviewing for the show. I can't wait to see two fast two furious tomorrow and then the movie starts and i'm like oh my god i'm so fucking movie. It's so good it's so good Josh hartnett great in it lies alonzo's grade in it. Jeffrey donovan like anytime. Jeffrey donovan shows up in anything. I think he just. He's really good at playing like a bad guy. And yeah i. I highly recommend wrath of man for like listeners. Out there that love a good action movie or vengeance movie. This is one the watch. This is definitely one to watch. I checked. I haven't checked rotten tomatoes in a while but a couple of days ago it was like a sixty six percents. It's probably gone down but because that's how it is is more of us. Come in when they get ya. But i could be wrong. They're gone up but typically goes down with this kinda shit. But i loved this movie. I thought guy ritchie did a great job. I thought i thought jason statham was fucking fantastic in it and yeah seven percent and went up one percent so yeah highly. Recommend a man. If you feel comfortable wounded theater. I recommend watching this. If you love a good action movie the third act hosts malone it. Yeah post malone's and he sucked. Does he get shot. He sucked so. I'm not gonna spoil it. Just watch it. He's he's a sheet. I'm in. I have to find out. I got shot this shitty actor. He's a shitty fucking actor. He sucked everybody. Else's really fucking good though. Yeah this surprise me. I couldn't believe how much i like wrath of man really kind of on a roll for you lately. Yeah i mean. Didn't he do the aladdin movie correct. I liked it. I didn't hate it. I think i gave it a high tasted i liked it. I like the gentleman. He's come back a little bit. Took twenty hundred twenty years. He had to go to the edgewood that king arthur and then to be able to come back see here. We've got a few more things to talk about. But we're going to tell you what we're gonna take a break. And they're jake likes those and we'll take a break. We'll be right back. We got good bat. Pop day greg does wrath man. Does that sound like something. You'd ever watch absolutely i did. I haven't seen it. But i absolutely will see it when i get a chance. It just came out. So yeah. I mean i couldn't believe how i immediately got on the phone with my dad and said you gotta watch this. You'll love it. It's really good. I come eight talking so good jay guy. You don't need to watch it take. I don't think you'd be into it. You still haven't watched it tom. Yeah watch john wick three. No i have not. I have not i need to i. I'm ready and willing at this point. I just haven't got around the. I don't need to hear your tasted john wick. Three so don't don't even. I think they had all three john wick movies for like twenty bucks total on i tunes recently so i picked that up. Yeah i need. I got the first one on blu ray. I need to buy the second to the next two. I don't own those. I need physical copies. Shipman i don't fuck in trust. I don't trust these fucking digital platforms these streaming platforms to keep my movies if they screw me over if apple ever screws me. I'm going to be devastated because a few years ago i decided to go digital only with my mcu stuff. And i can't. I can't bear to lose that. Yeah yeah there's always disney plus. That's true but then i got to pay every month. It's like i don't really own that stuff. Yeah oh yeah same. Same but i mean if you wanted to do a marathon you could pay a month watch your marathon. It'd be out if they wanted fifty bucks from me today to have wanda division. Just sit in my. I tunes where i could also just watch it on disney plus i would give them fifty bucks just to know. What's on my itunes. That's how i am apples by the balls. They do. they have me by the short hairs. They got you by the by the balls like that furniture. Wow ahead your deck. They do dick. And the apple has me bama balls nkau break and be right back. Jake we if you ever do watch three. I would like to hear about it. Okay to it i did. I actually did jump on that deal. That greg's talking about where i didn't have any of them digital and i got all three of them for twenty bucks i've been i've been waiting for. I've been waiting for a decade view to watch any of the raid movies. It's still my god jake. You haven't seen the rain. no no. I also thought both of those pretend vox and haven't watched them yet either. Yeah yeah there's there's i could go through. I've got i've got a list. There's a whole list of movies like that. Jake will never watch that. You want me to walk next time criteria happen like like. I feel like i could do like a whole thing. Where like if. I you know like we had like the magic word on on pee. Wee's playhouse like if you told me that you watched one of these shows. Like fucking streamers like party poppers to go off by next episode. I will have watched both rated movies. I if you don't next time there see to to. I'm gonna i'm gonna pick we're gonna go to the floor together. I'm going to pick you up. i'm gonna take you up to my room. I'm gonna duct tape you chair and i'm gonna make you watch the to raid movies Just want to hear you guys talk about how that story when i was thinking about not watching the movie certain movies. I'm gonna watch book though. Is there a third one. No no no no. There's only two there's only to the second one is long. It's two and a half hours officer for sure watched the first one thing though. That's the thing. Know y- jake to watch these movies that our beloved to me. It'd be like yeah no way. There's no there is a way greg. There is a way were greg. J gives them a high tasted or some else. There's something wrong with the high tastes there. When it comes to the rate movies raid is tupperware. Yes there's no other ratings. There's no way. Jake gives it a high taste that no way fucking low budget. That first movie is such low budget indonesian martial arts. And it's a. It's a fucking love letter to indonesian martial arts and it's fucking incredible what they did on that budget. The action the choreography. This kind of bare bones story but what they pull off in that fucking movie and then when you get into the second movie and they can expand that fucking world and the second movie takes place right after the first movie like jake like you could literally watch the first movie and then the second movies boom moments right after the first fucking movie and it just jumps right in actually liked that when sequels through that and it is at the second movie is fucking incredible when you get to fucking like The baseball bat dude and hammer girl. Oh my god oh my god spinoff. It's fucking incredible. Some of the some of the most amazing action fight scenes. You'll ever see in ohio. There's a fucking fight scene that takes place in a car in the second one. That is just like fucking is such an incredible martial artists man and see. That's what's going to happen. You're going get back on here and you're going to be like yeah i'd give it a high tasted god and my mind evans stopped making movies. Why did he make these two super beloved movies and then just fucking disappear and they asked him like. Are you going to do a the raid sequel. And he's like. I told my story right. Now there is no notice rate sequel. But like a trilogies. There is no third movie like this. That's the full story. That i have now if i ever think of something else then maybe you'll get another movie. He has come back and work on something else. he did. The gangs of london series that recently dropped on. Amc okay did tv afterwards. Yeah but man. Yeah okay. I'm gonna hold you to that you're gonna watch you're gonna watch the raid. Put it on my list for next week all right. I'm watching these fast and furious movies every fucking week you go. That's what we need. I need to have a segment where you watch these fucking movies. I've been asking you watch for the past bucket eight years. I'm in place through scotus start with the lone ranger police. You watch that shit. I don't even care. I don't even care the only appropriate. Let's take a break. We'll be right back with more good. Pop pop ruben. Let me tell you something brother. You should head over to pop. Culture leftovers dot com and use the amazon shopping link for all your shopping needs reap the louise roy's do the top dig it speaking go creed play it on amazon. Not hundred percent. Sure he'll tell my little hope. The maniacs say your prayers take your vitamins and you will never go wrong brother and listen dude. You could buy those vitamins through the amazon shopping link on pop. 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And greg. what do you think about fried berry. Shutter the best way. I can describe this Movie directed by a gentleman ryan kruger. This is like sam ramyon crack. This is there is no plot movie and it's not a movie that relies on pot. It's a movie that relies on an absolute assault of your senses and of your tolerance for being disgusted by things. I'll tell you that. Sounds like an review we got. What's i'm giving this a high taste. It and i'm particularly interested in the direction of ryan kruger's career career because this is a very unique sort of direct oriel point of view that i definitely want to see more of i. I won't say that this is an enjoyable experience. This is something that you do experience. And i think you come out of it maybe Gosh i'm trying to find the word. The yeah you can come out of it with some things that stick with you for a few days. Let's just put it that way. Shit definitely worth a watch. It is not a horror movie that intends to scare you. I would say. I don't know if it's a comedy or not. It's just a movie. In which i think they spend a couple of hours really fucking with you really fucking with you. They're gonna they're gonna show you some things that are you haven't had nightmares about things. This messed up before It is definitely worth a watch and Can't wait to see more from ryan. Kruger might have to check this out now man that was quite sell. Even brian's description. I was like why did i skip this. I know i read the synopsis. I just didn't have time to watch this one. i i wanted to. There's other things. I wanted to finish finish jupiter's legacy and it just didn't get to this one but man yeah. This sounds fried berry on shudder. I'll be checking this out man. That sounds like something. It might be up my alley. Do you think that i'd like this greg. I think that you never forget it. Yeah so a couple of things to just for anybody who. I don't think anybody would be dumb enough to try to watch a movie like this with kids in the room. That being said this thing is like rated. This is rated axe this extremely graphic in and you see body parts and things that you wouldn't expect to see in a normal horror movie this is this goes for it. Pains you see some penis for sure you see some pre penis early and In some regularly in this. Cpa there's a few times. We get scattered penises appearances of this looking forward to this. This gets better and better. you see. probably the most disturbing childbirth scene. That happens seconds after a really bizarre sex scene it is. There are body fluids flying in many different directions while this is going on this. This is a this is. Somebody's horrible nightmare. I'm hoping i'm hoping that someone listening to this episode just like fast forward tibet particular part. Where you're saying all that she never a thirty second skip button again. You know like at the beginning of like the trailers now. They've got the teaser trailer. Before the actual teaser trailer like i want to put that at the beginning of this episode. Yeah that's yeah this is again. I love for you when you watch it. Text me because i'm dying to know what you think about it okay. I'll let you know what i think about fried berry. Benny loves you. This is a new theatrical. Release we to watch this one streaming though after the accidental death of his parents. Jack's comfortable lifestyle comes to an end as he sells the family home. Desperate to improve his life. Jack throws out all his childhood belongings including a beloved plush. Animal named benny. However it's a move that has disastrous consequences when any springs to life with deadly intentions written and directed by carl holt star. Claire cartwright george colley. James parsons david wayman. Lebron and carl holt. Himself and carl plays jack in this movie. The main character and basically this movie is basic. It's like what if your childhood. I'm a little too old for this. But what if your childhood tickle me elmo went on a killing spree to start killing everybody that that you loved or cared about because it vied for your affection and wanted you only love it. So greg did you watch you i did. What did you think about. Benny loves you. The most direct comparison. I can give for. This is shaun of the dead If you like shaun of the dead. You'll probably like benny loves. You does every joke. Land not necessarily but enough do to make it worth your time One one thing. I'll point out. This is a joke probably in the first five minutes of the movie the movie starts with sort of like the classic like little kid who see something scary. It's this little girl. She sees something scary calls for her parents. Her parents come in the room. And you've seen this a million times in horror movies. Maybe the parents dismissed the child and it sets up this plot. The parents reaction to this. Slap the shit out of the girl. She's got she literally has her mom's hand slapped print on her face on her feet. And there's like a ball of spit that comes out of her mouth. When these slapper there are so many jokes like that that land extraordinarily well that i was totally fine with a few here and there not landing. I was totally fine with having generously really really low production value. I was really okay with the fact that nobody ever thinks to. Just throw benny in a fire or something like that. They'd is there are leaps in logic. That really aren't in the spirit of what. This movie is trying to do You know you may compare it. Brian if when you saw it i wonder if you were comparing it to saco gorman apples and oranges i don't know that this is like a future cult. Classic like seiko gorman was but it was To me a really good time. I give this one a high taste. It definitely recommend that people see it. I was not comparing it's a psycho gorman gregorian for me is on like a completely different level i love. That movie took me back to like when i was a kid. Just fucking mike. Watching some of these movies that i probably shouldn't have been watching it twelve or thirteen on on usa and then going out to rent the video store and you know but it was fine. This benny loves. You was fine. I i will. I'll give it a taste that it had its moments. I want to hear jake has to say about. Did you watch. I did not see this. Oh okay all right so you didn't see it. I thought it was fine. I didn't love it. I know some people are absolutely in love with this movie. But i thought it was founded off. Yeah it's just like this little dog going around killing people bad special effects and it had enough funny to it. But i don't think i've ever revisit this one again. I don't know i liked it enough though. It sounds like he really liked it. Though greg it had a lot of good to be fair. I don't know if it's a movie i'd rewatch. When when i first saw saw shaun of the dead i immediately went waited for the dvd. To come out. And all of that. Good stuff. And i don't know if i would wanna see this. It's it's it's a lot of a lot of good solid laughs for sure. yeah. I love shanna. The debt is a tupperware for me. I love that. I would tupperware shana. The dead for sure. Yeah hot fuzz. Well i loved them both. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah this is. This is all right. I think it's worth a watch. It's like a. It's like a comedy horror. But i'm not gonna put it on the level of a psycho gorman or even veloce pastor well blasted pastors not really a horror but i just wouldn't put it up there as far as like even the comedy but i think it was a valiant attempt at like like. What if a tickle me elmo win around killing people so yeah i liked. I liked it enough. i'll give it a taste it. That's benny loves you. And it's out now in. Select theaters will probably be. Vod here very very shortly. I didn't get a chance to see this one greg. I think he did things heard and seen. I wish i had heard and seen a different movie. This is a manhattan artists. Relocates her young family a historic hamlet in the hudson valley. As she settles into a new life she begins to suspect that her marriage has a sinister darkness one that rivals her new homes history on the acclaimed novel by elizabeth brendan jr and it stars. Amanda and james norton and it sounds like it was a turn for you. Yeah you know when you start watching this. You're gonna wonder if this is a horror movie. It's almost sort of marketed as a horror movie. It feels like a horror movie when you look at the sort of landing page on netflix. But it's definitely not a horror movie. This is sort of a marriage drama in which a ghost story kind of happens to be happening at the same time but unfortunately neither are particularly interesting. There are ghosts in this movie. There are no legitimate scares If you're scared of a of a mild brown out where maybe your lights flicker a little bit. You'll get a good scare out of this one. But i doubt anybody really will the ghost look like they came right out of You know the lord of the rings return to the king eight they have that same kind of cgi sheen but none of the cool production design. It's just it. Looks like somebody dressed like mona lisa via playstation two Not very good. I think the problem with this film ultimately is that it is a character drama marketed as a horror movie and the characters. Just aren't all that interesting. You know you have a husband who is a complete and utter douchebag. But we've seen this before in the shining in and shining. Does it a heck of a whole lot better than this. There's nothing really here that makes this movie need need to be performances are really solid but from plot perspective. You figure out pretty early that this husband's a douche douchebag you start to get a sense that he's not who he says to be that unfolds throughout the movie. But i i have to toss this one. Unfortunately i just think it's not worth a couple of hours. Even if you're in it looks. I would just let it go if you're a horror fan. Please don't watch this. This is not a horror movie. This is a marriage drama. That happens to have go senate. Just watch this as well. And i agree with a lot of what greg said. I didn't hate it as much as he did. Though it was a low tasted for me. i i do agree though like i think this would have been more interesting without the ghost. Part like the ghost stuff was almost a cop out. Excuse as to why people were acting shitty when it seems like especially the main character. The george character was shitty person to begin with. I'm not really sure that the ghost really accelerated his shitty nece. I think he came into being shitty. Like that's kind of the difference between this and the shiny jack was kind of taken over by the spirit and the ghost to become something else that was different his character. We're this was like the ghost. Were pretty needless. Like you could have had this exact same marriage difficulty drama without any of the ghost stuff because this this guy did a lot of deceitful stuff before they even moved into this house so quick question and this is a modest spoiler. But trust me. If you're listening to this you don't care just trust me. You won't care about this. There's a there's a guess to who the ghost is. And i would say about two thirds of the way through the movie you find out the goes to somebody else but that twist has zero impact on the plot. As far as i can tell that. I miss something. No you're you're absolutely correct. It's like there are bad guy. Good guy type twist and it really had zero bearing on anything that was going on. I thought this movie really fell apart in the last half an hour. I kept thinking. Well this can really be saved by a really dramatic dynamic final act and that was just nowhere to be found. This really lands with a thud and that was kind of the most disappointing part about it. I i think even all the meander in could have been saved by just a really exciting indian but it was very predictable that that was one thing like you just always knew what the next step two characters. We're gonna take was like things happened. That were awful things but you saw them a mile away coming so it was really disappointing. I have a question. Does anyone ever in this movie. Say i ain't afraid of ghosts that does not happen. You know it does not happen. Seem very afraid. It's going to be a toss it for me. Yeah what one. Interesting thing that i can. Point out as well is I think natalia dyer surname. she's in stranger things and she's also in this film and all of the performances in this film are perfectly fine but she is utterly wasted. She plays a college student early in the movie that gets involved romantically with the husband. And the story. George and i don't she kinda just disappears about the way through the movie. There's no follow up on her story. She just exists in the movie to be slept with. Yeah it was really strange. There was a moment when they were going to throw a party and the wife demands that it not just be their colleagues that be their neighbors to and the husband's like not the neighbors one of those neighbors is the college student that i'm sleeping with. And and they do make that point like he gives that look like oh fuck. I'm screwed now. But i have to agree with this and then that character doesn't even show up at the party or have any impact party whatsoever. It was almost like they edited that out there. Some weird editing stuff in this for sure where maybe they were trying to make one movie in another one came out or who knows he did he at any point. Say i ain't afraid of no neighbors. He basically i mean. He implied that he was afraid. He definitely was not. Did you get that my crazy. Greg was there not moment where he was like. Oh shit i have to invite the neighbor. Absolutely okay i i thought maybe i missed something but yeah oh my god like if you're gonna watch this. Use the one and a half times two times speed on the netflix phone app. And at least a half an hour out of just watch i. I'm not going to be watching. this things. not seen heard is heard. We see things heard and seen. I will be watching this or it or hearing any of it. Tom clancy's without remorse. I did now another thing. I didn't watch this week. i'm not gonna. I took the week off. Jake even though even though over back i took the week off. You did make it all the way through jupiter's legacy though i did i did but i didn't watch tom clancy's without remorse. Greg you saw this. Yeah i saw this. I mean a couple of things. The thing first thing you need to know is that michael jordan as a leading action hero. Just give me more of that. I think michael jordan is a very very good leading man when it comes to just straight action films and that. That's really what this movie is. It's a traditional sort of action movie. It's got obviously the espionage kind of bent to it. I am not an avid tom. Clancy reader I would say about two thirds of the way through the film. There's a twist to that is not surprising at all. If you're familiar with this genre before that point this almost feels like the prequel to the equalizer. This is like a legit old school revenge film and i thought it was much better as a legit old school revenge film than it is as an espionage thriller with a twist. You've seen a million times before. But either way i thought michael jordan was really strong in this movie. I'd love to see more But he is just so incredibly good and everything that he does. If michael b jordan has a future like the every two or three year action flick signed me up for that absolutely. I think he's really terrific. I would give this one. A high tasted high tasted amazon. Prime definitely spend a couple of hours watching it. Don't watch it for the plot. Wash it for michael jordan and one of the best plane crashes. You'll ever see did you. You didn't watch this jake. did you watch it okay. yeah i know what. I'm not the biggest. Tom clancy guy. I was intrigued. Because i do like michael jordan and i wanted to see how he handled as lead man. But i'm telling you after hunt for red october. I've never seen a. Tom clancy movie that held my attention. Yeah i'm not the biggest. Tom clancy guy either. And that's i think that's the biggest reason. I didn't watch this one to be quite honest with you. I love my jordan. His name off. I think you kind of alienate a group of people by tagging his name on the movie me and you in particular implies like that it's going to be a really sophisticated spy thriller or like military and there's definitely some really cool sort of black ops stuff in here but it is still a relatively straightforward story is not overly complex story. Shake the episode. That we don't show up for is going to be called tom. Clancy's pop culture like brian. And jake aren't even hosting this week with somebody hacking your reviews. We're going to take someone's doing us a favor but then halfway through the episode. We're gonna find out that there are ops. it's twist yes sukey yes sukey net flicks a who is this. I watched the first two episodes. I watched the show. Greg cut out. We're going to have to wait until the purse walk user robot instead with did you hear me. I said i said. I watched the first one i watch. I've watched through. I finished four. And i'm halfway through five stars. It's a six episode series. Set in a war torn feudal japan of max and magic The greatest ronin never known yasu k. Struggles to maintain a peaceful existence after a past life violence. This is an anime and it stars judas in the black messiah and sorry to bother you. Start la- keith. Stanfield as the voice of the black samurai yes. Uk when a local village becomes the center of social upheaval between warring dino. Yes okay must take his sword and transport a mysterious child who is the target of dark forces and bloodthirsty warlords and yeah man. I'm through. I'm through six episodes and i've got i've got an episode and a half left and man i i were the first three episodes and then like once it starts getting to the big battle towards the end. It's just not as good in my opinion but maybe they'll finish strong. Maybe it'll finish strong. But man i fucking tupperware the fuck out of the first three episodes. I thought it was fantastic. I think the keith stanfield is great. As the voice of this of the samurai. And we're seeing a lot of this where the you know like the fucking old warriors like taking care of the young kid helping to take care of the kid on like this fucking quest or whatever. We're seeing it and like the mandalorian we're seeing it in the witcher. Our getting it again here in yasser uk. But i dug this animation. I love the theme sock. Oh my god. I forgot i can listen to the salk one hundred fucking times. I think it's great. I love fucking theme song the banger but overall i will give the first three episodes tupperware really rate the entire thing yet but i think the actions fantastic. What did you think jake. I liked it a lot too. I'm gonna give it. A high. Tasted my only watched the first two episodes but i i've seen a lot of anime. That's like in this like type where you know it's like a feudal japan samurai wore type of plotline and one of the biggest like faults in those is not a character you can really like latch onto or is very charismatic. Or you really kinda give a shit about. It's just kind of boils down to just being a bunch of cool fight scenes and i thought was the opposite of that. Where even within the very first episode you really latch on to the lead character. And i think a lot of that is due to The key stanfield Voice acting he does a very good job on the dub of this. I don't know if there if there is a suburb of this. I think just the dub this was made for him like this role was written for him to ask them to do it because he he really kills it and he's a very likable character. You feel a lot of sympathy for them with a lot like. I'm very interested in seeing more flashbacks of his character and how they came to get where he was him. You'll get him. Yeah and i love the family dynamic and kind of the will he. Won't he help them. Storyline going on you. Could you can kind of see both sides of that coin like why he would just wanna stay the fuck away from this or you know why he feels like he has to has to help because of just like his loyalties and like the the oh state he upheld you know back in the day and this was. This was very good. I didn't know it was only six episodes too. So i will definitely be finishing this man. I love the villain this man. I think the villains are great that fucking the priest and then the robot and man. I love it i fucking love it. The first three episodes are so fucking good in my opinion. And then i don't know man maybe they'll finish stronger. But i felt like the fourth was kind of the weakest in the series so far. But would you think. Greg what you think greg this is. Greg jumps in tells us what he thought again. I ask the question. Hey what did you think greg's like drag tonight here. You got mess. Greg thought i did roll my eyes at this for the first like three minutes like it was like. Oh it's just action action action with a bunch of characters that i have no connection whatsoever but then after that first segment it really just takes a one eighty and you really just kinda fall in love with these characters. Greg just gave his height as his writing in a message on skype. I think that might be our first text message leftovers correct rick. Greg disagreed with us. He hated the key stanfield. The voice just couldn't stand the. Can you hear me now greg. We're not responding to you or anything saying we hear you will be like. Hey yeah greg we hear you bro. Greatest doubling down on tax with. How much aid is a keith. Remember that movie. Things things urgency. Greg is not one of them. Can you hear me now now. He's turned into a ninety s verizon. Commercial wasn't just mere. Was the animation. A bit blurry at the beginning greg. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that was your internet connection again. Yes it's quite you're experiencing now. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We'll get greg back Yeah we're back without going. Yep no gregson hans grace about. Let's talk about the circle finale. It's talking about the circle. When do you wanna talk about the circle in the way that they do the show. Jake here we go. Great heart emoji heart emoji heard i know hold on. Pcl circle message. I loved the circle. Finale except for the winner hashtag. Now i'm not gonna do it. I'm not going to do but yeah what did you think. What did you think man the silo did. I actually by the time we got to that last episode. Who i wanted to win one. I was very happy with that. I thought my biggest complaint about circle season one is. I thought it kinda mishandled. The finale and i thought this season did a much better job of making it more dramatic at the end when they all get a meet each other and see each other for the first time. It was a way more exciting finale than we got last time. It may have been better results. You know mileage may vary on this last time but i just production and the way. The episode was handled was much better than the last season. Yeah i know. I love the season. Override just wasn't happy with the outcome. That's just me though. That's just yeah. I get it i get it. Yeah because we all have our favorites that we root for so. But yeah i love. We're still waiting on grade. Comeback fucked up right now. Corker i finished rutherford falls. Did you watch the whole season. I'm going to upgrade that. To a tupperware i really really loved it and just fell in love with like half a dozen. I'll watching that show and watch the raid movies but finished rethoric false. I fucking hate. You hate you more with everything you finished. It's not the raid. You better tell me anything else. You've finished. I watched all twenty season. Love the great british bake off at this point. If we're in the same room. I would be strictly now. I know you people love your great british bake off i get it. I nothing against your show. I've just never seen it and it's a great show. I bet i guarantee. I guarantee you're watching that one with the with the girlfriend i would. I would watch it by myself. This definitely not like tied to the chair be forced to watch. Okay all right fair enough. I just think that there's certain shows the guys with the girlfriends or their wives and great british. Bake one of the bachelor is the other one. And what's the other one. The fuck it. The massing. Like unless i cannot fucking stan that yeah but you guys are watching that ship so they can get laid that night. I promise you the only reason they're watching that shit is because like there's a promise of some pussy at the with fucking man. Yeah i guess when it comes to that there's far were shows you could be forced to watch for some pussy but yeah it's it's not good i and they they just turn that shit out. One season ends and the next begins. I swear there's like four seasons masked singer every year. Oh my god i can't. I've never seen an episode of the bachelor lasted episode of the masked singer. And i was just like. Oh my god. Yeah not good. Not good at all. Is greg a masked dancer now to which seems even more ridiculous Gessen's dancing stupid do. Did you hear about this new fugger day. Dating reality show. That's gonna come out. And it's got. Michael bolton is going to be singing clues or something. Is this real. Hold up hold up. It's a it's a reality. Daily reality dating. Show michael bolton. I've got like this up michael boatman. Zoe dash anelda host celebrity dating celebrity dating game at. Abc bolton dash anelle celebrities dating game as bolton might croon. Tv is back on its feet again. Produced by this one with bulletin. The national at the helm promises a wink at modern dating with a star studded roster of celebrity singles in their pursuit to find love offering is love it. It's celebrity single suit. That makes me really excited. I'm sure there's going to be a-list celebrities to walk sure. Yeah can't wait. what's her name. The recently divorced chris pratt. Oh fuck. i'm drawing a blank here. He girl and anna farris there. You go yeah. They got her lineup. No they create. Is greg saying something. He's getting there getting there. So keep talking about this offering spin on the classic dating show. The celebrity guests will remain a mystery as one lucky suit or is chosen from a hidden panel of three bachelors and bachelorettes based on their answers to the celebrities questions suitors will have the opportunity to guess the secret identity based on clues questions and special parody performances by host michael bolton over. It's going to be like a masked singer thing where we don't know who the celebrity is. I don't know if i just want to know the celebrity is and hear about the dating. What's the show called. Has it gone so action celebrity dating game. Abc on abc. Michael bolton in this picture he looks weird a little weird critiquing. Michael bolton's look. Have you watched any the Name that tune revival. Now i like it. I watch name that tune. You never saw the originally. I don't think so. I used to watch it on. Usa back. when. I was a kid. Did you watch this. Did you watch the jamie. Foxx ship zam. Shell i did. It was terrible. Beaches am i. Oh my god no. I couldn't i couldn't watch it. I do love the chase think. That's a really great game show. That is remember the chase. The movie with that charlie sheen and kristy swanson of we was awesome. It had like flea and anthony kiedis alaron monster trucks brow fucking movie and they have sex kristy swanson and charlie sheen have sex in the car during a high speed car chase. That sounds very trial. She literally rides shotgun in. Yeah it's true with a foot. Greg where the fuck is we're talking about the chase from ninety seven or whatever the fuck you do a greg. People are listening to this right now. This is the thing that people have listened to their ears. Taking in what. We're saying right now this asinine bullshit that we're talking about. We should have a draft king sponsorship. You gonna draft kings. And how many bits greg gets back on this god damn all right pas bag and the daily still greg so lets you wanna you wanna listen to my sly and the family opposed to dua go. We'll wait for greg. This is from the polite remix jake on thanking know. Thanks bye tampa funky sung jae abu in my head the whole time fucking shit. I love it fast. Birth really battery. Can you hear me ask. I'm really sorry about that. I can't get back on to skype at all. What i could kinda scape all my computer. So i'm on my phone. Now is my recording. Yeah totally recording. Yeah it's really bad. It's fine right now. So people be pool appointed a week. I do you want me to go back into chat not chat my no. No no no no. We definitely don't want that greg. What's your problem with keith. Stanfield keats anfield accepting the i loved. I look stanfield okay. And you're gonna get back pedal now get it at all. I tell you might. You might just been reading it out of context boy. This is quickly becoming a bottom tier. It's all my fault because my thanks. Yeah and i'm sorry about that. You're welcome no. He didn't say thank. You probably dumbest things i've ever done. Jake cracked up. When you were making that you died. Started off where. I heard that song in my car. The frampton comes alive and he said thank you and i said you're welcome. I like and i. I laughed to myself. And i was like yeah. That's going to be something that i do on an episode. That people will not appreciate my god. Let's yeah yes okay. So i don't know final thoughts greg. I don't know if you get my my chap message. But i do. I taste it. Yeah right yes okay. It's an anime. it's on netflix. Look stanfield i really like it. I'm point i would've finished it. Had i had more time. But i'll definitely be finishing it man but yeah those first three episodes. I thought were fantastic. I loved it mosquito coast. Who got a chance to watch any of the mosquito coast on apple. Tv episode is ball right. Mosquito apple tv disgusted by the corruption of the civilized world. An idealistic man who is an inventor by profession relocates normal family to mexico when they suddenly find themselves being tracked by the us government. Why are they being chased. This is based on the book written by paul throw with the same title. A movie based on the book already been made back in one thousand nine hundred one thousand nine hundred eighty six that was with harrison ford. And have you ever seen that. Movie jake half. What'd you think about mosquito coast with harrison. Ford i did not like it very much. I thought when it first came out. So i was pretty young so i think it might have been mostly over my head hating. I'm like being forced to watch. It came on eighty six. I remember we rented both it and temple of doom at the same time. And i just couldn't wait for this to be over to watch temple of doom that craft. This starts justin throw melissa. George logan polish gabrielle. Bateman kimberly lease and man. I fucked doug these these. I watched the first two episodes. I think the the third episode dropped on friday. But i haven't had a chance to see it yet. But i really dug the first two episodes. Actually going to give this a tupperware. I really enjoyed this quite a bit. I wanna know. I'm gonna give it a high tasted i. I only watched the first episode. I thought it was very slow and plotting for the first half but then the second half really just adrenaline high gear and made up for it. And i'm very intrigued as to what the fuck is going on. And why like are your are your three episodes in. I've watched the first two. Okay okay is the mystery of why they're being chased by these agencies solved for you yet know and i can't wait to continue to watch this to find out why it's really good amick between The family and the daughter and you just feel so much sympathy for the daughter. She's just trying to have a normal life of a teenager. You know where she gets to meet a guy and talk to them. Yeah she she can't do any of that because she can't have her cell phones traced you know. You don't really understand why that's going on in the first half but then you realize why the dad is goes off the deep end about the cellphones later. Just a tough life to live. If you're a kid like the parents kind of created a big mess that the kids have to pay for and yeah you can see how that would be really rough in a real strain on on the family. This was great. I can't wait to see more of this. Did you get to was it. In the first exit episodes. I don't remember i from the second. I just remember things that happened. Did you get to like the. He's in costs and she gets him out of trouble. Yes shocked by that. I thought they really make. It seemed like she's just like fuck this and just gonna take off and then what happens. I was actually like whoa. Yeah yeah yeah second episode. Even better in my opinion i fucking. I'm so in a mosquito. The mosquito coast on apple. tv grabbed. Did you watch this no. I thought it was really a book is written by paul theroux and then this series stars justin theroux or relatives now. They have no relation. I looked into that just coincidence. Yeah greg greg put into chat this episode socks. He he put into chat episode lawn. Aren't you hear me now. Yes jesus great black man. Are you calling from antarctica. What the fuck is going on. Where the fuck are you obviously having some problems here. You're in you're in the middle of fucking cornfield recording what's going on. And if you remember al franken when he had the big satellite dish on his. i'll never forget. Are you in trouble. Like al franken was no. I'm not used. I'm just probably having some good old fashioned internet problems that anybody was hardwired into my computer but it just no luck Did any i. I thought of the are quite a bit when i was watching mosquito. Coast was it just me. I didn't think ozark when i was watching this but i can kind of see the comparisons because of the family and what they're going through. But yeah it's kind of like you know family dynamics with this backdrop of crime and we don't we just don't know what the crime is. Yeah yeah mosquito. Coast and ozark. We know very quickly. It's money laundering and i think we're So i would give this a middle of the road tasted but this is a pilot. You know it's very hard to tupperware. Pilot has as jake knows. The only pilot that i can think of that i would tupperware would be the pilot for lost which is one of the pilots of all time i think but because they are relying so much on kind of the family dynamic here and we just start to get a remote inkling that there is crime but we don't know what the crime is it was a little hard to be attached to it in the same way. I'm attached to ozark because they have three seasons of connection to the characters ozark and this is again sort of a pilot. That's getting things set up So give it a good good solid case it. I'll watch another episode and see if it hooks me but i was little. I wasn't as enamored as you guys were. I liked it. I'm here man. They dropped to episodes man that first week. Yeah so i'll have to catch the second one. Yeah yeah. I was hooked. I was hooked let's apple. Tv continues to be such a great deal of so fucking good dude five honestly i upgraded my phone. So i'm getting it for free for this year. Yeah yes got a free t same thing and it's it's worth it for mankind servants this. I mean i'm not trying to ted lasso. All these shows are just wolf walker. If you didn't get a chance to see yeah. Yeah we'll fox was fantastic but apple. Tv's fucking killing it apple. They're killing this episode. not so much. No no i would say five bucks a month for this episode. Oh my god. Patriot patron just like dropping off like flights this one. I'd be happy to reimburse you guys for any lost revenue for loss patrons internet. Yeah okay. I just hung up with my lawyer. Then that's good. Let's let's jump. Greg came back. And i i didn't know what to do. I was just playing it again. How long were you playing like. Probably about a minute. And then i was gonna go through the whole damn thing. I'll play the whole thing at the end if you want to hear it but let's let's listen to frampton again here. We go government here. Sound sincere as if you really do appreciate our enthusiastic gratitude solo in the song. What different song. That's a different side. Yeah i know which one you're talking about where he's basically talking through the the. Yeah yeah yeah that that. That roy arriver that savings. I know exactly what you're talking about now. Andy greg comes alive. That's great man. You're really destroying handy. Greg like it's really broken down the wall for me like i don't know if i can never believe again. He's great with the ranch but terrible electron. Ix watch handy greg. That you know. I'm not very good at the things that i do on the channel. That's kind part of the joy of it. So that's true. That's true into the pop we've got. Let's see how that goes. Let's jump into the pop culture leftovers news now that we have greg kind of semi back with us all right news data this news. It gangsta thanks to all right speaking. We talked about john earlier. The continental new john wick prequel is set in one thousand nine hundred seventy s canneries in talks to serve as executive producers so we got details for the continental john spinoff series takes place forty years before the film's and canneries will not be making an appearance. Lionsgate television chairman. Kevin told deadline that the new prequel series will focus on a younger version of an mcshane's character winston and will be set in the nineteen seventies new york city quote. What we're exploring in the continental is the young winston and how it became to be that he and his team of confederates found their way into this hotel which have met for the first time. In the movie franchise forty years later so mcshane had previously confirmed that he won't be appearing in the continental but that he may return for some voice over work. The continental is a major location. The john trilogy and is the assassins hotel. That has a rule that you can't kill anyone when inside its grounds however step one put outside its boundaries and all bets are off. The studio took a lot of pitches for this spinoff series. But the one that won out was from the creative team of this obscure little show called wayne. That was on youtube. Begs was impressed because it sought a lot of problems and even use the sopranos as an inspiration. It will feature a crumbling in the nineteen seventies with a garbage strike that piled up bags of garbage to the third floor of the brow of most brownstone the mafia muscling in on that business. Which is why the sopranos and why in the sopranos he's in the sanitation business and other things that are really real as an interesting backdrop to explore the origins of the continental bags. Explain begs also shared that the way they're approaching. The first season is three essentially ninety events which you could construe as a limited series or a limited event series. So yeah we're got like this announcement to fucking years ago for this continental series. And they're finally still now. They're talking about actually. Hopefully that's good news. Hopefully that means it. Sounds like they heard a lot of pitches thought of a lot of ideas and they took the time to come up with the best idea. The one thing that does worry me is ruth. That's a tough job to be the guy that's got a step into the shoes of a young ian mcshane but that's some tough casting. I feel i feel sorry for that guy who the fuck living in. Who are they going to get. I can't even think. I was trying to actually think about like who they could cast as a young mcshane. I can't even think about that. I'm scared to fucking say greg's name like there's like a ninety percent chance that he's not gonna fucking saying anything it says he's on the call but we've had that before. Is this working. God yes. I just want you to know totally different computer now. Anyway i've enjoyed my last appearance. Pop culture lifetime weight. You guys cemented now. I hope people were attached to you. Greg might have enjoyed a couple of those appearance. But i still have a youtube channel. We'll cover that the Yeah get really teared up. Because greg is one of my favorite guest. I'm going to miss them. Well yeah we always have the recordings that we can just replay over and over. You know maybe not. I think this sounds like a great concept. I can't wait to see it you know. There's definitely a lot of lower. When you watch the john wick movies that you feel like you can dig into wire. The rules the rules that are in place What led to those rules needing to be established. What's the history obviously in mcshane's characters one that you want to really dig into so no. I think this is a great concept and hopefully it's worth the wait. yeah last. We knew it was supposed to premiere on starz i. They did not mention the network at all in this new article. But last we knew that this was gonna be a stars series. So i don't know if it's still planning on being on stars. But i i would think that they haven't lost the rights to it. I think it probably still appear on stars i think. Yeah if the shows good this could be. This could be a good get for stars. They need it because they keep canceling everything. That's good on that fucking service. Ask versus evil dead and american gods so not really not a lot else there to be quite odds with you. Know it'll be a big hit. At first and then by the third season volcano. Cancel it by the third season Looking forward to the cancellation in future years. News from collider noah's centennial exits masters of the universe movie at sony. I'm in the back of my head. Jake i'm thinking about how terrible this episode is. Oh it's impossible. I just want to say in my own defense that sometimes when bad things happen it makes the episode even better now one of those moments in your top half the top fifty percents. No no no no. It's not this is really bad. It's really bad greg. I love the positive vibe that you're trying to get off right now but it's slapping at away. We've got so much great news to cover the we're gonna. It's gonna end on a high jake. And i have a lot of great news to cover. And it's it's still very much up in the air and questionable that you'll be here for any of it and the news editor about the covers. Noah centennial exits masters of the universe movie at sony. You could exit this episode. At anytime. And jake and i won't know until we ask your opinion can. Maybe i'll just take a picture of my notes with my cell phone and posted to facebook. Yes that'll put this battle. Put this episode in the upper half. Thank you thank you. Greg thank you greg. Yeah just put timestamps. So we know when your current anyway noticed antonio masters of the universe movie at sony. Aaron and adam knee They were the directors. A band of robbers are slated to write and direct. The movie which has seen numerous writers tackle. The script over the years david. A score wrote an early draft as did christopher joost and ironman scribes matt holliday. Art markham centennial. Had been nearing a deal to play. Prince adam aka human the most powerful man in the universe who must fight evil skela tour to save the planet attorney and protect the secrets of castle gray skull. He is no longer attached to that project. A representative for centennial told collider on thursday. Though no reason was given he's gonna be playing a character in the who's going to play the atom in in the is it the blackout a movie. The movie this is james he got. I don't even know who's playing. I think it's in the ashes. Amc call be wrong about that. But no centennial. You know how Vh one has pop up videos. We need like that for this episode of pop culture leftovers. I little noise group. And he's going to be in blackout him. Okay with the rock. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah he's going to be in. That movie is he. Playing ray palmer. Is it rape atom. Smasher he's playing atom smasher greg. Let's get your thoughts. On noah centennial exiting before you exit this episode. He didn't look anything like he. Man or prince adam. I think that's what was really frustrating at the time of the casting. Isn't that the thing is it. Hold on here where you are. This is this is. This is where we are with this shit hold on like that we get a casting for surviving. That's playing somebody like fuck that fuck that and then we get like one instagram photo of them at the gym working out. And they're all jack botham. Gorlic remember seeing any instagram photos. Because he didn't look strong in any he looked scrawny to me and he had short black. I know they can slap a wig on dude but i just couldn't envision. The students demand there. Jim photo that i missed. No i'm just saying that's where we are right now with this kinda shit. That's what happens. Yeah so i. I wasn't set the. Maybe they'll get somebody that probably is better for the part you know and look. I don't even know if it needs to be. I would actually say. I'd love to see someone of a different ethnicity. Take on the character of he man. There just needs to be somebody who's jacked. That's what's really necessary. I mean those action. Figures were musclebound beyond human comprehension. You need somebody who's really big and built in that role and he just didn't look the part now now. I always when i when when. I'm happy that he's gone. Be quite honest with the. I'm just saying that's what happens. Though we get these castings and then all of a sudden we get this instagram or tweet or something like that. We see these people in the gym. And they're all jacked and shit. And i'll now i'm behind it now all right. They've been working out. They've been doing they've been doing this fucking workout. I'm you know we didn't get with this guy yet. but i he's been in a couple of those rom coms on net flicks. I was just like man. They're not taken. How seriously can. I guess. I do what it takes. He man seriously though right. I don't need like christopher nolan version of he man but i do want to take it a little bit seriously. You know what i mean. I agree i. It's got to have a little bit of humor but not like full on like slapstick. Yeah the other one was so goofy like the one from our childhood was way too far on the goofy side and it just ignored all the mythology we knew and like created its own mythology. Yeah did it doesn't hold up. Well if you were ever hoping for an explanation as to why he meant had half a sword and skeletal head half keep lookin' because it ended the cartoon at all you know. I think they pretty much abandoned that idea from the toys but I you know. I really grew up. He man was sort of like the first toil line that i never collected i loved. I loved he man guys and i actually bought. Have you seen the new reissued. Once they sell it like you get them for walmart original comic book reprints and everything. They're awesome and you know it's like the exact same proportions as the old figures but their elbows knees bent just a little more articulation but there. There are a lot of fun. I'm really curious. Sort of what netflix's aim with this is because there are also doing the animated approach with kevin smith. I believe right. Yeah nigga live. Action and animated. Yeah he keeps teasing that. We're going to get photos and stuff like that pretty soon. I know bear. Mccreary is the music and i mean so. I'm hoping for the best for that. I just you know. Every week. On fatman beyond kevin smith is teasing that next week. We're going to hear something from net flicks and another week goes by. We don't get anything so hopefully soon. I unless i've missed some new information but i haven't seen anything. Come out of that other than what. I've been hearing from kevin but they short toys back in late february associated with the cartoon. I haven't i haven't even seen the the The target audience for this thing. I mean he. Man fans are well into their forties. Bhai now that's why. I think you guys are right. I mean granted. It might be the kind of thing. We're parents rediscovered and show it to their kids. But i do think it has to be a little more serious than what we saw in. You know in the past and particularly in her tune obviously it can be there was. There was a masters of the universe origin of skeletal comic. That came out in two thousand and twelve. It was just a one shot comic and it's the origin of skeleton. Four in my god. It is fucking incredible. It is the highest of tupperware's. It's a great comic book and like you can take elements from that comic and put them into this movie like if the movie starts off and gives us of like a cliff notes version of the origin of skeletal. Or i mean before they give us like the big fucking like he man and the masters of the universe logo. They could give us like a five minute origin story of skeletal that was taken straight from the comics and it would be amazing. But yeah i'm really. I'm really hopeful. Now that they'll find the right casting for this. Because i don't think no no is the right guy for this from the beginning. I thought it was a terrible casting. Choice and i know it's like i mean who do you cast. Though i mean our choices are very limited. I've been saying chris hemsworth for years. Because there's no other names to really put out there for jason. But i see why you would think that well i mean th you know you've got. The rock is played so many big fucking tough guys and shit over the years you know and i mean yeah. That's that's kind of like who you want in there to to take this on is like a big guy like chris hemsworth. But that's the only name i can think of jake. There's really nobody else. Yeah i know. Yeah i do have. I'm sorry jake you'll had no. I do have a suggestion on the side though. I think we should totally go for frankly and gela to do the voice of skeleton because as bad as that live action he man movie was that dude when all how he he deserves another shot with a better sort of script I would totally hope that he gets a shot. I think he's well into his age now. I don't know if he's up three years old well but he wanted that role so bad and he's the only redeemable when you think about the voice cast in the animated versions insane. They've got crazy. They've got What's her name. Lena had from. Game of thrones blades. She's evil lyn. Okay that works so yeah is it mark hamill and it to mark camels in it as well as far right. I'd have to check on that. I'm not one hundred percent. Yes i gotta tell you jake. I'm looking at the image of the toy right now. And i'm gonna i'm gonna pre tossed the look for eamon. He's way to arm the whole idea behind. He man is that he doesn't need to wear all this crap because he's just so instantly stanley strong. He's a dude in underwear with a big ass or this. We're a big metal shirt long pants and boots with lights on them. It's ridiculous i'm not a fan of this. Look i don't like it either. Now that i'm looking at michelle. Gellar is teela lisa silverstone's in it kevin conroy's in it. Henry rollins justin long. Stephen root jason mewes. Of course jason. Mewes play stink or tony. Todd nice. wow that's crazy so you get great. Great voice cast i. I can't wait to see that. I think this episode's being held hostage by greg's internet. I know it sounded like we were sponsored by pop secret. The last time he was talking did you hear that. Oh yeah it was. It was yeah. It was totally. It was like a jiffy pop thing going on there was a crackle of big time. Big time like more crackles than time you were talking there. Was this like nonstop bubble. Wrap noise man. Maybe it was my beard. It could have been the microphone being no no it definitely not a new sound bad now. No it sounds fine now. But that's that's yeah but that's like part of the not the fun with this episode. It's part of the frustrate. Yeah yea there's this point where like the guest is like like a ruin it for you. I'm just going to leave and like we're not there yet. Maki greg so. Don't throw that out there. That will just totally shit on this episode. Completely we're going to hang with you do. We're gonna do that. you know. I love this podcast so much in the last thing i ever wanna do is is screw up episode. You know what i mean. I know you're making that a reality. So i only have. I got one choice for cable. It's frontier that's it. Oh my god. Frontiers frontiers like. That's like old people internet. You know what i mean like. They call it frontier because it's the same internet. They used when we settled the frontier back in the nineteen central shit. Oh my god frontier. That's like the golden girls who still alive they'd be using frontier. Yeah so i you know. But i got the euro system and and and you know when i got i learned got it all hardwired and it just. It just didn't work out you know we. We've we know you get a new. A new microphones nice headphones. For when i'm on and stuff like that you know. It doesn't matter the equipment you have. It doesn't just gonna have to sell my house that's it. You have the move the move. Yeah yeah honey we gotta go gotta go somewhere where they don't just offer frontier. Oh shit. I hope my kids like going to a new school. I hope your kids enjoy being able to get on xbox live noah's antonio leaves attorney. We've got hannah. John keim and entering high cardia and we have a red sonja. Finally it's been over a decade. But we do have our red sonja. And this news comes from dark raisins ant man and the wasp villain hannah john keim and has been cast as the title character in the new red sonja film at millennium and joey solloway is harming the long just dating sword and sorcery feature from a script. He co wrote with tashaun wa from netflix's animated tomb raider series. Did i don't even know that was a thing that thing is that come out yet. Not that i know of. I don't think it's even out yet. That doesn't like like. I think people would know if there was a netflix animated tomb raider series. Like that. sounds like it's coming soon. Yeah yeah so yeah Yeah we've got our red sonja. Hannah john keim. Who was she an eight-man she was the villain dude. She was dead the ghost. Yeah oh okay okay. Gotcha in the second one. Yeah and the wasp okay. First of all. I was calling it. Man second was called ant man and the wasp. Yeah it's like j. can't a stroke or something. I have no opinion on this really. I mean even in the watts really didn't showcase hurt too much or enough for me to have any opinion on how good of a red sonja she would be. She's definitely not like she didn't i. Apparently she's going to have to buff up for the role. I would think i think so i. I'm i'm a red sonja fan. Don't like and this goes back to like the old brigitte nielsen movie and then also within the last decade i've been reading the red zone comics and she definitely she definitely needs to be up a little bit and i think she will man. I think she will. Yeah i haven't seen enough of this actor to give you like thumbs up thumbs down. It's like i'm right right now. I'm kinda it's a wait and see it's a wait-and-see man much greg audio. We'll just have to see how it plays out. Oh my god. That's yeah. I i think the casting is exciting. I really loved for man and the wasp I also i. I loved red sonja. When i was a kid brian I love the fact. That arnold schwarzenegger was in it. And i thought he was really like codename or something we we might as maria bad again. So bad man. This is really frustrating. Manage these conversations are just flowing. Maybe i should never stiffy. Can i go on for the rest of the episode. Let's go back to text greg what to do. Let's get another guest on to be greg's interpreter. So was reading. What can connection. I like you know how in the movie when the person is nervous to go on the date and they don't know what to say. Friend is like whispering in their ear and the electron device so basically like the roxanne. Movie with steve martin. Exactly exactly. that's a trope though. We've seen that that's not the only movie that do that. Trick greg if they ever come out with a favor reissue. The speak speaking say bro. You are the voice greg. Kelly linda own home boy. Not a little bit there during craigslist speech greg. Please don't continue to send messages. Because that audio of the message comes through on this. And i got i got here the entire time. No until you don't know what to own be so all right we're back. We're back at least. Two thirds of us are j. Yes yes we'll see. We'll see how this goes. I've got major echo. Going on his greg gut speaker turned on or something. Now i don't i i i was double fisting skype earlier just to make sure one. We're correctly but i'm not doing that. Why are we back we back. There was no echo though before we came back on right start drinking. I have been yeah see. We should just just get pissed drunk. I think this is going to be the episode. i start drinking. It's moving marvel news marble news man hours half the moral news to turn into a robot there at the la. Yeah it's like i'm going to. Ptsd with fucking robotic bullshit. Like once i go through accidentally to fan. And i about fainted. Once i go out into the real world like if my like like my mailman comes up to be. I'm going to be half worry the talking like a robot shit the robot talk for the Mitchell i let leftovers versus the machine. Yeah this'll be speaking of mitchell's versus the machine. We have an interview here with a machine. Welcome machine got a marvel. Email here from nate ria. Hey guys i picked up a marvel. Legends tony stark a. I figure today and it's from the shanxi line that recently released. What are your thoughts on seeing tony. Stark iron man an upcoming mcu film. Thanks and hope you're doing well I i've seen this screen here on the shelves actually and it is part of the shanxi line. Are we to believe that. Weird beginning a tony stark by in the movie. You think this is happening. Jake or do you think. This is just part of the toiling. I don't think it's happening. I think it's just part of the toy line. I mean i could be wrong. You sleep all these legends series. Even when they're tied to just like one or two toys that are kind of inspired by the movie and not so much based off of greg. Yeah i mean in this set is well you get. What what they're referring to as modular ironman so this is iron man It was designed by an artist. Kevin hop good. It's the same ironman suit that was used in the nineties. Cartoon right it's the same ironman seat. That's in marvel versus capcom if anybody remembers that game and that was actually piloted. Remote tony stark. When i think he was comatose or something like that so i i think there's always the possibility that they get robert. Downey junior to do like voiceover work and they have mba. I but when they're such a perfect character death like that. It almost feels like they should let it be I'm not sure that they should go that direction. They i guess they always could if they wanted to. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't predict any kind of story. Throughput from the marvel legends. Line based on the fact that we got up to two differences now based on figures. They're coming out with. I'm usually like i'm totally cool with like certain you know it's based on comic books. I'm cool with certain characters coming back even after they die like the the whole key thing. I thought that that even though that death was like you know pretty pretty fucking cool. I'm fine with loki coming back. He's you know he's the god of mischief man just makes sense but like with the way that tony died. That's another level right and even even just to bring them back as ai. I dunno. I guess it could happen before this. They were still rumors about it happening. Possibly in in the iron heart series. But i think it would take away from the ci movie to have tony showing up in any form in the movie. Even even though. He's so much associated with the mandarin character. I don't really want to see this movie connected to the mcu that hard until like the end of the movie. I want this movie to breathe on. Its own and then we smacked this character and with the rest of them. Yeah oh god can you imagine oh fuck saw what was it. Somebody fucking had an article on reddit that popped up while we were recording. John campia claims that marvel studio says over twenty. Mcu projects in the pipeline. That we don't know about including avengers five internals to believe it. There's no way they're not thinking of what they're going to do with the vendor snacks. No way yeah. I do think we're going to get an avengers movie in in face. I don't know of this will be the first phase without an avengers movie. Yes i think we're going to. We're gonna pause any of injuries and it's gonna it's gonna come back and five. Are we going to get like a big event film in phase for or is it based we're gonna end with the fantastic four. I think i think it will end but tastic for. I don't think we're going to get that big event. I think this is kind of a putting together. All the pieces. Phase introducing lots of characters and concepts before we smack them all together again. What do you think greg. It's really bold if you think about it from a disney shareholder perspective. Because they're like. Hey why wouldn't you just meant three billion dollars every two to three years right but i think kevin feige could get away with what exactly what jacobs saying which is. Let's wait until the story is right. Let's build up demand. And then maybe we do three movies and five years you know but we have to till the right time what. I'm really curious about it. Seems like they're laying the groundwork for young avengers it seems like they're laying the groundwork for thunderbolts which they could call vendors if they want. Yeah definitely could be dark avengers. I've seen a lot of people saying it's not going to be thunderbolts. But it could be dark avengers. You're not just call the thunderbolts. Dark avengers you make a lot more money that way. It doesn't matter. So i i'm really curious what their approaches and i'm also curious just in terms of the contracting. I presume they have anthony. Mackie locked up. I have no idea. Is sebastian stan in the mix. They got him. They got him. They got him early. They saw picture. They got him to a nine picture deal. they saw. What happened with chris. Evans they offered chris evans a lot more pictures to start off with and he took him down a little bit and so they snatched sebastian stan to and nine picture deal. Yeah so what characters are in. The mix is really intriguing. I would think if being successful. He's an avenger. I i'm just going to say. I think it's possible deadpool's evanger. Who knows who shit you know. I it just they. There's so many different directions that they could go I i i actually. I'm going to side with you though jake. I think despite what must be a lot of pressure on kevin fi. I do think we won't see an vendors movie in face for. I think they'll wait but i think once we see avengers I guess this would be a vendor's five. I think we'll see five six and seven within five years for a period of time. I agree with that as well. It'll be much like infinity warren. Endgame that once we build up to that point. We're going to get a couple if not three. I mean we're still in phase four by twenty twenty two face four is a long faced because of covid. I mean. I think we're getting what six movies and five and six months though at some point soon. We're getting a ton of movies. Well i mean this year. We're getting four. We're getting black widow followed by shanxi in september then in november. I believe it's november. We're getting the eternal and then in december we're getting spiderman three so we're going four in the span of just like yeah like six months from july to december and yeah. We're getting a lot of movies. Yeah i'm ready for it. I mean it's been so long since we've had one i think four years worded. Yeah also within this whole thing to is. Do we start to see some of the seeds of the x. Men and obviously were starting to sort of get more teases about the fantastic four and are they intentionally kind of sitting back off the avengers to sort of build up demand for these other iconic super teens. Maybe who knows. Well what if they are building a dark avengers. What does that mean for the avengers themselves in. Oh yeah so yeah. i don't know man. I don't know i think there is a. There's a huge chance that we might not get an avengers movie face for that. We might face four. Might be the first phase without with without the flagship movie. The avengers movies have been the flagship films you know. I guess you could consider iron three flagship film because it made a bunch of money but as far as like traditional flagship films. It's like a age of altron and then we're talking about anthony weren't endgame like those are the those are the big ones and we might especially those last few those last two really felt like they words he end of every storyline from every previous movie. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah. I think vendors i think of vendors for its time though was huge it was oh i agree. It was still kind of taking every character. We've seen so far and putting him in a movie together like wasn't when of interest one came out there was no other. Mcu movie characters that were excluded from that real quick. Did you guys see that article from rolling stones. Where kevin feige confirmed that at one time doctor strange was going to be a part of one division. I did yeah. He was the one that created those commercials for that as well. Yeah yeah. I was wondering too if that had anything to do with paul bet knees. Now sort of infamous teaser about the actor. He always wanted to work with and himself was. Never this sort of intent there. I know. I think he was trolling us okay. Hasn't he worked with benedict. I mean they worked together and fucking infiniti war right. It's hard to know who's ever on screen at the same time and who's not you live especially with. Cumberbatch was even at that funeral or not. We'll never know right. Hey it's interesting on the on the On the vendors thing you know. Captain america the first avenger made three hundred and something million dollars. Under four hundred million worldwide. Any solo marvel film. I think at this point is probably gonna make a billion attorneys might make a billion dollars. Shanxi might make a billion dollars. I mean we're talking about. we're talking about theaters. Oh you're right you're right in that right. Post cove post covid. We're still in it. I mean i know. People are getting vaccinated and everything. But i don't know if we're back to billion dollar movies just just yet. Yeah especially with blunt widow kinda diluting some of its money by being on the disney plus thing to and they'll never reveal how much they make off of that they. They didn't reveal it with milan so they won't tell us how much they make off of the disney plus premium editions. Yeah yeah black panther to title got it. it's going to be black panther. Were kinda forever. And what do you guys think about. When i first read the title in the morning i'll be honest with you man just like it was. It was a gut punch for me like it was a downer because it's just like a reminder that he's not with us anymore and that the more i sat on it and the more the more it sat with me the more i of like realize like it's going to be you know how they're going to be handling the loss of chadwick boseman and You know what what kind of forever means and and so it grew on me. It's just like that initial that fucking initial. When i first read it. I was like fuck. I don't know if i like that title or not. And then it grew on me. But i'm gonna get some quotes here from lupita about the sequel. But what did you guys think. When you first heard the title and and everything jake. I really loved it when i when i saw the title i watched it on. That marvel sizzle reel. It's saw the arbuckles posting you. Know the reveal and everything. I it really struck me and i. It really kind of gave me goosebumps that that was the direction they were going to go in and just even in the tidal kinda give you that acknowledgement of the situation. They were in. And i don't know i can't think of a title for the movie and what they went with. I love it. I wasn't there when i thought it because it was kind of like like confirmation. That yeah like it's no more to challa it. You know for as much as i don't want them to recast the character. It just kinda like it's real now it's real. It's real not to say that it wasn't real when when it all happened in everything but now now that it's out there it's like yeah this is real so it was hard. It was hard. It was a hard if that morning sucked. The title has grown. On me sense though. Greg i think it's a i think it's one of those titles that strikes a perfect note because it starts to show us a little bit of a way forward. It's it's basically projecting. The story is now about the cast. And it's doing it. Also i think in a way that is respectful of chadwick boseman. I quite like the title. And yeah it's a gut punch for sure. It a gut punch but i think the title is simple and poignant and i think it works very very well the help give us a glimpse of the direction that they're that they're going. What one thing that. I was a little bit confused by there. Were rumors and i don't know how well-founded those rumors were that we were getting some kind of disney plus series about the supporting cast and is. Does this mean that's not happening. No that's still happening. We're getting conduct series. We just don't we don't know anything about it. Yeah so it's it's just I i'm really curious. I think as everybody else's coup ends up stepping into that lead role. I know everyone says. Cherie i i get it. I'll tell you for for me for what it's worth. I know that her character is not of royal. Bloodline would prefer to see tonight. Guerrero a as black panther then cherie right now I'd love to see sure. Take the mantle at some point. But i think it would be an amazing black panther But yeah we'll see. I think we're all asking the same questions. Man is ryan kugler. Have quite quite a burden to bear with envious that dude. I hope to reveal who the next black panther will be is a review of that we get within the context. The movie like. I really don't want this to be something that we find out from in entertainment weekly cover or just some kind of article like i really want the story to dictate what's going to happen and us to find out through the story who's gonna wear that mantle. The only way that happens. What you're saying is if they film different versions of different people in the black panther costume. That's the because to get people off the scent of who the black panthers. That's the only way. Yeah and i think they're capable of doing that. I have held their secrets before. And i really want this to be one that they have to that level like i want this to be avengers endgame level of secrecy and i really want the movie to tell us what's going to. Who's it going to be somebody that we've seen before. Is it going to be a character that we've seen before isn't going to be denied guerrero. Kobe is going to be you know. winston winston do because it going to be Daniel columbia is going to be you know the lupita who's the actress that plays shui can't think of the shirt right is like. Is it going to be somebody we've seen before casting. Somebody completely new within kanda. I think it will be someone we've seen before. I think that would be hard to get fans to swallow a completely brand new character. See know those kasper cole. Rumors right and boy. I again if i don't envy ryan kugler i really don't envy whoever's a new a new cast member trying to be the black panther even if they're not to challa that's that's tough. That is not a role. I think a lot of people would wanna play. Yeah yeah yeah newsom. Cpr dot com black panther to lupita iago opened up about her complicated feelings over returning to film the sequel following the passing of starch. Oh chadwick boseman. She spoke to yahoo about the experience of gearing up for the next film with last year's lots of bozeman still so fresh people. Ask me excited to go back. Excitement isn't the word i feel like. I'm in a very pensive. And meditative state when it comes to black panther to his passing is still extremely raw for me. And i can't even imagine what it will be like to step on set and not have him there. There goes onto say not only with the cast and crew dealing with the loss of bozeman but writer and director rand cooler will also need to contend with a story reason for his absence marvelous claim they will not recast challa despite some fans wanting the characters to continue with a new actor. What isn't yet known as how the story will address challa but goes touched on the process. She said at the time. We have a leader in ryan. Who feels very much like we do. Who feels the loss in a very very real way as well and his idea the way which he has reshaped. The second movie is so respectful of the loss. We've all experienced as a cast and as a world so it feels spiritually and emotionally correct to do this. And hopefully what i do look forward to is getting back together and honoring what he started with us and holding his light through it because he left a a lot of light that were still going to be bathing in. I know that for sure and Those rare lupita iago's thoughts on this. She says it's going to be very respectful. And we've got to wait two years as fans of this franchise to find out. Exactly what ryan kugler has in store for us for black panther to the movie comes out july eighth twenty twenty two and that that first movie it meant so it meant a lot to me but like there's a whole group of of people where and i'm talking about black people. Where like this this. This character in this movie and the way that marvel and five g in bozeman everybody that was involved like handled this movie with a predominantly black cast and. This is still early on. We like you know. I think it's crazy to think they can't shake it's like that movie comes out. The two thousand eighteen was at twenty eighteen or twenty one thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred and i think i'm looking at that. We hadn't seen a movie like team twenty eighteen. We haven't seen a movie like this with like a predominantly black cast with a with a superhero. We'd never seen anything like this before. How long it took to get something like this and then for it to be such a huge hit this movie jake. I saw in the theater five times five times. In the theater i fucking. I love this movie so much but like you know like this movie. This movie was made for. This movie is not just made for like comic book. Fans like this movie was made for. This movie was made for Black vans that have been wanting someone that represents them on screen for fucking years. They finally get it man and it. What's so hard about this. Is that that we we as fans. We didn't know chadwick boseman and his family. And we're going through this whole time and then we all just got hit with like this huge loss of chadwick boseman and it's and i hate to bring it down to a level of like just fans because like it's so much bigger than that like we lost like we you know there's he his family lost him and that's super personal but man. He met so much to so many different people and it does feel like that light has gone out. It feels like that you can. We can pay respect to that in this next movie. But i don't for as much as for as much as i hope that this movies. Great man i i i. I can't sit here and be like. I don't know if you're ever going to be able to jake. Can we really say that we're ever gonna fuck in. You can't replace this guy. I'm not gonna say here in bullshit anybody you know know it was. It was perfect casting made even more apparent once we saw the movie Yeah it's no matter who they picked to take the mantle. It's never going to completely put a band aid on. Just the charisma and performance of chadwick. I hate the fucking downer. And it's like i don't know what like he's got. People that are starting petitions on change dot org to have somebody else play to challah. And i don't think that that's gonna fix it either. I don't think that there's anybody that you can get in there. I don't know man i really. I think they made the right decision. Until we reboot the whole issue. I don't think we should have someone else plane. I agree with that. You know this. This is one of those cases. Where i think it's rare but maybe the comics don't show you the way forward. I mean i'll i'll just give you an example and i'm not this isn't like let's pretend we're screenwriters but how do you work your way out of this. The most appropriate way to do it might be to say that to challa died of cancer offscreen and to show us how that lost feels to the cast I mean that that feels more real to me to say at the beginning of the movie to have the cast reacting to their king dying of a very real illness then name morris tidal wave. Which just doesn't feel respectful of chadwick's legacy. Yeah i mean. Start the movie with cherie and kobe and angela. Bassett's character whom. I don't remember her name unfortunately but show us them more than their king in the very real loss and to me that feels so respectful of what chadwick gave us. And it's okay for the movie to really lean into them and for the story to really be about that. Yeah you know. I think that's really. Maybe this is just you start from scratch you rewrite the whole story and you lean into the loss and you really just take some time to soak in the loss. I think that's the only way to do this. Man it's it's because it's like. How do you just dive into. I don't know jake. How do you do this. How the fuck does wine cooler right a movie. Where not only like people were expecting like you know them to honor chadwick. Boseman honor what he did as the black panther but then on the flip side. You've got to introduce somebody else taking over you know the mantle of black panther and then also introduce a villain into this movie. It's such a task. I like what greg saying but like how you. How do you make that movie greg. I love what you're saying. I just don't know if if you people to come to the theater. I don't know i i mean there is a power vacuum. You know when and that might be what the movie's about what what would the real world response be. If the most technically advanced nation on earth that just came out of the shadows and was instrumental in stopping an alien invasion lost its king unexpectedly. Massive power vacuum. You'd have good and bad players trying to take advantage of the situation. I don't know. Maybe that's i'm just. I'm all like well we can do is guess ryan kugler has to work his way through and i think the smart money is probably unsure being the black panther. I also think this is totally unprecedented. And while you can look at the comics for guidance they might just have to blaze their own trail. Maybe there is no black panther. Maybe there isn't maybe it's just the cast and the black panther three is what kanda triumphant or something. That who knows i. I don't know. But if i if i had to if like right now gun to the head you telling me like who's going to take over the mantle. I would go with to niagara koi. I think she's more ready story sense and then she is. She feels like a better more logical choice fucking. She was a bad esim. Asthma shown. I think she could be a bad ass. Black panther too. I buy her is black panther. I still just kinda see. Sure he is like you know the she was kind of like the tech sidekick you know in this kind of in that first movie q. Almost yes bont. Yeah yeah. I i mean as for like if you're gonna give me like a black panther warrior and somebody with a warrior vibe. That's who i would go with would be a core acquai- who's like like you know the leader of the of the door and malaysia. That's who i would go with for now. And there's historical precedent to you. Know young monarchs having kind of like that steward for lack. I don't know what the right word is. But that older figure who is there. Yeah i see a couple movies of deny guerrero being black panther as cherie learns how to become queen but not queen and black panther at the same time you know like. I said it's unprecedented. The story takes a path that is a different because it has to be different. And you know that. That feels like it could work again. The the question that the who's the villain man. I couldn't even begin to guess right. I couldn't even begin to get. Is it name. Or is it victor. Von doom is that the united states government. I mean i i. I don't know i don't know who to you. Introduces the villain in this movie. Where they've got so much to tackle as far as how they're going to control this whole country that's mourning the loss of their king. I i mean. I don't know i like what you're saying though like there's like you know that's the perfect time to pounce though it really is if you're a villain it's like it's only logical that. It's about seizing kanda. And and again. I don't think that's disrespectful. Chadwick's legacy it's a. It's a place. The story almost has to go. So i'd be curious if that is something they they do dude. I think like like the perfect way to do. This is if they did pick a koi to be the successor. She's the one that would not think that she's deserving of it. You know what. I mean makes her fascinating and right. Yeah yeah yeah. She's sh- i'd i'd love to see her. I i've always been a fan of denied career. I still remember One of my favorite episodes of the walking dead there was an episode where somebody puts a baby in arms and at that point. We don't know that for sure that michigan has lost a child in the in the tv cannon. We don't know that but the way she reacted when she held that baby told us all we needed to know. I think nigeria is amazing. I really wonder if i'd love to see her headline marvel film. Maybe i mean maybe the movie is just about like just this emotional movie about like who is going to be taking. What kinda into the next going forward. Who's gonna be. Who's going to be taking over the mantle. Maybe they can make that. Maybe just make that just like an interesting movie. We don't maybe we don't have to have like a villain in this movie. Maybe we don't have to have that in this movie. Get out be a very unique marvel movie but i agree There's so much ground to cover even without dealing with the villain that it definitely could be done I would love to see a conversation between whoever. The new black panther is. And sam wilson about complicated legacies. Yeah yeah and that's that's something that's gotta happen whether it's in this film or another just about what it's like to you know. And i think for sam his whole point at the end of Cal captain america in the winter soldier was. It's not about living up to a legacy. It's about making your own right. But i think that's There are some interesting character. Meet that we've got explore there. I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch the black panther movie again. I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch it. I i've watched chadwick boseman after his passing. I've watched him in the netflix movie. He did marines slack bottom and that was tough but man. I'm glad i watched it. Man he was fucking amazing in that movie. I don't know if you guys have seen it. But man he was fucking incredible. And i do think that he should have won the oscar for that. I i watched the father as well and fucking hopkins was amazing that movie but i think those should one. Yeah that that was a weird way to end the oscars to not do best pitcher last and into kind of well. Yeah big disappointment at the end like that. Everybody thought that that's what they were doing. Setting it up for boseman the win and it didn't happen so like the one guy that wasn't even there one. Yeah yeah so. That was kind of odd The the. I'm sorry. Brian i was gonna say the one thing that really scares me and i know this is still disney. But it's very different talent. This is kevin foggy ryan kugler etc. They told us they were going to be. Respectful of carrie fisher. I don't know that they were they were. I'm just gonna say i don't think they. They used reused footage out of context. That felt not entirely. It felt creepy. It could have been worse but it didn't feel good and hope that they learned from that. Yeah i mean. They had the blessing of the family. To billion orden and carrie fisher's son and all that stuff but yet didn't work didn't work did not have been honorable but the execution just didn't work. Yeah hopefully i mean. I mean i guess we gotta trust ryan cooler to do the right thing here right. Yeah i i think ryan kugler nosed pressure. He's under and knows the job he asked to do. And so i think he's going to be able to handle it. He's no hack. Yeah oh god. He's the best person alive to have to deal with this. I would be a lot more scared. If it was a whole new creative team coming in here yeah do you think he'll be back for another a third black panther movie. I don't know. I think he might be here to give us the closure that we need because of what happened and he's under contract. I mean he was a key. Might step away after this. He was under contract to do this. One i mean but he was under contract any thought he was working with chadwick. We all thought he was going to be working with chadwick for the second play at the movie. I have no idea. If frank kugler i think ryan kugler should do whatever ryan could wants to do after this movie. However if i'm if i'm disney gives us a great black panther too and then we're going to give you a star wars trilogy and do whatever the hell you wanna do with it. I hope it's a great black panther. I really do. I just feel like i'm gonna go in that movie and cry the entire fucking i. I feel like we need to cry. We need to have a good cry in the first thirty minutes of that movie. Easy to do. Yeah i mean. I think at the beginning of game was very dour Probably the first forty minutes of that movie so they could definitely get away with it. But i think we have to fandom needs to feel the loss Early on in that film and see the characters greaves. I i honestly i for as as this is and how hard as it is for fans i wanna. I wanna chat of bozeman documentary. I want something. I want a documentary. That honors him not just know. I mean yeah. He's great and black pants. But i want a documentary that honors the life of the man. Yeah i think that's well deserved you and i. I think that'll happen. I hope so. I hope so i really do i really do. It's going to be hard man. It's like i it's fucking hard. I can't i still can't believe it i just. I still can't believe that that we lost them. It's it's still it's still. it's almost. Surreal because it's like you watch those movies and he's just so he's so like his performances amazing he feels like he's just so full of life and he's got so much to give as an actor and it's it feels like this is like really cut short. It's like heath ledger all over again. But like it's fucked up. I remember feeling nauseous. Felt nauseous hearing about celebrity pass. Before and i felt sick. Yeah it was just devastating. Yeah yeah so. Yeah i i. I'm at a loss for words. I don't even know it's expect from black panther too. I do not envy ryan kugler. And what he's got to try to figure out with this balancing act of like giving us a great black panther to movie and then on the flip side like honoring the life in passing up chadwick boseman as the character in the movie. It's just like this is just. This is unprecedented. Like like you know the way. They handled carrie. Fisher is not great. But i mean we got we got. We got many movies with her a lot. More than we got. I feel like with i know eno chadwick showed up in a few movies and in the mcu civil war and the the infinity war end and stuff like that but like he barely just got started man. We barely scratched the surface with that actor in that character. Man he didn't even get the full sequel yet. Yeah i think he would have been. Well let me say this is really thought. Hopefully thought away he would have been christopher reeve for a whole another generation and he kind of is just not in the way any of us it. Yeah yeah and and. That's i think what's so tough to process about chadwick and what could have been and what is but not again in such a shocking way in such a shocking way. Yeah i can't. I can't be mad of the fans that wanted them to recast. The character of charlie means so much to so many different people. everybody feels. And i don't feel like the fans that want to recast. We're like discounting what chadwick boseman did for the character. They just wanna see this character that they love still be on the screen. I you can't be mad at anybody in this. In this instance. Right i agree with. I agree with that. It's always so weird when a character doesn't die on film but does die. Yeah such a main character and recasting of fixes. Those like that. Weirdness that we're going to have no matter. How decide to deal with this. So i i don't blame the people that want to recast the either. I mean it's it's going to be awkward no matter what they do. I don't think there's any rider decade right this and have it not be just a little bit awkward with how they're dealing with just chadwick not being there at four shadowing to to character die in any of the previous movies so it's just gonna be this crazy out of left field thing Actually this is going to be the final thing that we're gonna talk about. It's also marble garfield addresses the spiderman. Three rumors this from cinema blend. And they said andrew garfield addresses spiderman. Three rumors and fans won't be happy. Actually got audio. I think this. I haven't even listened to this yet so i'm gonna listen to this with for the first time with you guys. This is andrew garfield. And who is he. Talking to a podcast. Wouldn't it yeah. Let me just play this on anything to in broke quickly. Just cut you off this. Nothing's really like it's so crazy. Just got out of hand. This is all bullshit so then it goes on to say. Andrew garfield addresses the spiderman rumors. And you have to watch the full interview on the happy sad confused on fuck you fuck me on now. How much is it. Six books like hold on. I guess we'll never know lost patrons because of my internet they'll find out they'll probably shift over to that paying for pcr and you're muslim. So there's always a silver lining guys greg greg. I'm going to be. I'm going to be sending you an invoice at the your logo patron man. Here's a there's nothing to ruin listen. I can't speak for anything else but for myself like they might be doing something. But i ain't got a call. I did not get a call. Listen i would have gotten a call by now. That's all i'm saying. And that's the quote there by andrew garfield and he's full of shit bullshit too and this one of those like oh why. They didn't call me but they called my agent or he could out lying. I don't know if anyone's beyond lying these stations to keep a secret we before they haven't officially announced any of these characters from the previous movies returns. Wouldn't i mean alfred. Molina wasn't really. It's not an official announcement but alfred. Molina fucking confirm that he's coming back for sure. I'm not saying that that's not true. But there's been the way they've handled it at least a movie. Studio is to nazi shit yet. Which means he's not allowed to say shit yet so when asked about it. He's got to be silent so i i don't think this just proves anything now. I'm with you. i'm with you. I think i think he's fucking full of shit. I just hope that toby and I well i. I hope that the whole gag in the movie is they just rag on injured for being the shittiest spiderman and that he's just so over the top and unbearable that would be the greatest sort running gag ever me. Think jack using a looking forward to that. I don't i would rather the movie redeem andrew garfield. I don't i don't want the toilet seat for the i get what you're saying and that's and listen. I've done my fair. Share andrew garfield so much study. Followed our podcast on facebook. Jay did did you guys just see mainstream by any chance. Know the mainstream movie that came out with him hit theaters but none of the theaters near me. We're playing it but it is not getting good reviews if you loved him in s spiderman. You're really gonna love him in mainstream. Let me just tell you. That's a manic performance. If there ever was one where did you see it It's rentable on amazon really. And let me just say really quickly. Because i don't want to change topics but my hawk absolutely delightful in this movie. She is just such a future star. She is so fucking good and she is she is she is a lockdown. No doubt future superstar percent and pie is really frustrating about the film is that she falls in love with andrew garfield character. And there's absolutely no reason to like him whatsoever in this film even from the beginning he's just kind of irritating and there and she's so lovable and you're kind of sitting there going. Why why. why him anyway. Jacomb with you. I hope that this redeems him. And i i think that sony sony's kind of like wanting to do i think in a way you're thinks sony. Seeing what marvel is doing with like even their series. Dude like fucking wanda vision. Makes it to where you kind of want to go back and watch age of voltron again. Yeah it does it. Does i mean the same thing with falcon and winter soldier a. Makes you want to go back and watch those earlier appearances of those characters and this could actually make people give a shit about the amazing spiderman series which sony still wants to continue to sell copies of the letter not selling tunes anymore. I i think the ultimate goal would be to bring it all together and let them have one giant spiderman box set. That seems necessary. It's necessary that you watch these three same rate movies. It's necessary that you watch these other two. You know andrew garfield movies now not just what they don't want to be known for just what they did with the mcu. I think it's better for business to be all of it matter. Yeah i agree. And i'll say it again like what what i always thought would be kind of interesting is the fact that like in this last movie with tom holland peter. Parker is the fact that i think people think he's like this. This killer this cold blooded killer. And i always thought it would be kind of interesting if the if you introduce these two other you know spiderman into the universe older aged you know i guess more season spiderman into this universe and they ended up sending tom holland into like the sony. Verse and tobey. Maguire is the one that sticks around the handle. All the bullshit going on in the mcu. I don't know i. It'd be wild but i like we were coming from with that. Yeah as long as they don't put tom holland in a phillip phillips montage. 'cause i can't handle another one of those we'll see we'll see what happens with these i. I'm calling it. yeah. I'm definitely calling bullshit on andrew garfield and these comments. Yeah better than like tom. Hollander mark ruffalo holding a secret. I think is all that's going on here. yeah. I think he's good at home the secret to because nobody's fucking signed up for happy. Set confused podcasts patriot. I bet they have a bigger patriot than us though. I promise you they do. Oh a hundred percent gaspar. I know we gotta piss them off. Jake i know i. I'm proud of that. I'm not going to be so my shine moments. He used to follow us on facebook. Jake and then you piss them off. Yeah i mean he'll get over it no get out of here he will. Not what are they going to their patriot on. If he's ever atacan we got to. I'm gonna get my picture with garfield going to be like. I'm jake jake for and i'm going to be recording. That shit when he punches you in the face of that'll be awesome. He smacks you in the head with a skateboard. I will love basketball from half court if you do that jake afterwards. I'm going to walk you over to rob lie fell to have you get one with him to. We're just gonna go one and then the other i don't rob field anything. Fuck that guy. I'm done i'm done greg. You got a lot better at the end there. Still some some guffaws but it was way better. I'm glad i just didn't. I didn't know if my audio was cutting out or not but i just had to kind of pretend it wasn't say guys. Thanks for letting me come. Ruined the podcast. It's always a pleasure. Good my god telling when you move and we'll have you back. Yeah well maybe. I'll get an apartment or something love it. Just run out in apartments separate for only record. Pcl how ended our state. How long do you think. I can sit in a panerabread before. They asked me to six that this guy is over here talking about his boss at getting bitten stuff like in the first five minutes. I don't think long he this guy keeps talking about dick getting bit by a chihuahua. But he is eating visi broccoli soup that they have enough to say the fourth of bread bowl of. Because i because i probably have to buy food to stay in their bread bread bulls man. That's good shit who buys goods glutton that thought of that he was a fucking gluttony of bread ball. Who's that fuck shit to eat the whole bowl of. oh yeah. they're they're like. Oh you like soup. Have you ever thought about eating a ball. You know my favorite cylinder. that comes out of the top. I like to rip the soft bread out of that cylinder that and then the top the top cap of the loaf. It's like a little scoop and then you can start scooping the soup out in that neat that you're psychotic non. That's that's the way you eat it. I can't wait for the the handy. Greg how how do you eat a reese's commercial. Well this is not shall seamless promotion but my latest episode. Just dropped today in. Its wall mounted a thirty two inch. Hdtv in the kitchen for my wife. So how do people. How do people listen to you without internet issues. Yes so i do. Have a youtube channel called amazing home projects with handy greg and You know i. It's just what it sounds like. I do home repairs. But what's a little different about my channels. I don't actually know how to do any of this stuff. So you get to watch me kind of worked my way through that you go check it out. Everybody and greg's videos are hilarious. Well we're they're they're very funny. Yeah they're very good. They're very good. And you don't sound like a robot so yeah actually not always class. God damnit jake. What a week. Yes time for another week off after this shed all my guy almost like this is like one of those like i don't really i don't even wanna in that so i just don't ever come back soon. Great during no. I can't wait to see the right up that. Brian gives for this episode. Oh god oh god it's going to be nothing like we talk about these movies this and that's it i'm not i'm there's there's nothing no cute little banter anything like this is like one of those episodes. I'm just going to throw into the into the ether into the world and just set it and forget it you know like when you put a cherry bomb in a toilet at school you just throw it and run and run and just ride. Yeah my god yeah. People were like. Oh thank god. Pcl's out now. Don't got bag now. no no no. I wonder who's going to be more hated. After this me or brian film and second wife like for just fucking shit up and being awful probably probably you. At least she can blame drugs. I did not do any drugs so i. I can't blame that. One hundred percent of our listeners are going to listen to where as they won't watch dark side of the rig so i'll hold a unique position of hate in the community now that i didn't hold before. Trevor ruining the podcast. Everyone wants to be developed greg. Embrace it yeah. Is there like what episode numbers this brian. Three seventy nine is there like before seventy nine and after three seventy nine now in the history of the show where this was just the moment where there's like there's like a b c a d. Yeah like there's like the before. Greg it'd be an eight hundred eighty after had one episode too long right three seventy nine guy. This is god. This is so bad jake. No i usually. I try to even just like bullshit. Some redemption at this point. I can't even muster it hang its top top fifty percent. Get the fuck outta here. You can't even surprised. I'm surprising able to even fucking get that sentence out there without turning a new goddamn robot. I mean you know. Look i listen. Every episode of this podcast. I love it the first two with that that other guy. That's not leftover anymore. Those those weren't as good as this one was. You know how he was on. He was on for like twenty episodes. We'll see. I didn't even remember that. So they can't be as good as this one now. Yeah fucking this episode is brought to you by sky net. Dan greg test the riff on dan. Yeah you gotta gotta get attention anywhere. You go back and seven and a half years as throw under the bus. Oh yeah i'm sure there is. I don't know. I want to get into it right now. You know no no. Let's get into it and the one girl who kind of freaked out on that one episode and then that's a legendary episode top twenty five percent. Yeah at least. She had a good internet connections yet. That was the you're done. Jj kosovo trying to even come close to comparing this to that. The will i didn't. I was seeing it in a different light. If you were the host on that episode it would have been like you're the mitchells versus the machines. It's more like versus. Crags are fucking internet. That all right greg. Thank you so much for sort of twenty i try. I try really hard then fucked up thing. Jay z feels fucked up thing. Is greg those really bad. And he had no control over it. I know we make jokes. And it makes me feel bad. Because i know greg. It's like beaten himself up over it. Yeah we've had guest on. This happened to. They'd just take a fuck. You guys stand right now. No no not really you know i have all my gear. I'm like a little boy dressed up as superman right now. And i got my super suit on you. Guys are my superman. And i'm like oh there's superman and i'm like chasing superman because i want to be just like him. In superman takes off the roof of a building flies away and jumping. I just fall off that roof and just hit the pavement done. That was a great analogy. There greg superman is just like super mad. Hey jake let's put his episode. Let's put this out. it's misery what are you say. please. I don't think i've ever wanted to end ended episode four three hours ago. Right before we go. I'm going to play the full version of the slide family stone. We're going to wrap on that. Okay jake i'm here i was. I was upset when greg came back through the yes well. Here's here's the fall versus. Here's the full version of my polite album. For sly and the family stone area go out dot com. Thanks and you're welcome concert search. Thank you so funky man me too. I'm bob over here. Hey was you're welcome. Thank gosh wildcatters food expression but thank you and you're welcome. Peter griffin painting doing this. You're welcome painting. Probably gone on too long. Not funny anymore. You're welcome painting. This show has really jumped the shock. Adnan outcome you're welcome. Yeah yeah we get it. Could they say that a lot don't they. I'm forty three years old with the thanks for listening to pop culture leftovers congratulations. I don't know how you did it. I couldn't do it. You people need a t shirt saying. I just listened to two hours nonsensical crap anyway. If you'd like to reach the pop culture leftovers cast you can email them at comments. Pop culture leftovers dot com. You can also follow them on twitter at leftovers or like their facebook page. They'd love to hear from you. They're all pretty sad and lonely. One of them is homeless. But i didn't say that. Like seven million podcasts. Talk brad pitt. 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