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The Legacy of Rachel Held Evans

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27:26 min | 2 years ago

The Legacy of Rachel Held Evans

"From the New York Times. I'm Michael Barbaro. This is the daily. Today. In a brief, but prolific career a young white asked whether evangelical Christianity could change inducer shoe changed. My colleague Natalie kitchen, speaks to religion reporter, Elizabeth dice about the legacy of Rachel held of's. It's Monday, June third. It's always interesting to me, as the religion reporter for the New York Times, which spiritual figures breakout into the mainstream, and I think the last time I wrote in a bitch wary was for Billy Graham. The word redemption means to buy back. Why do you need to be bought back, because the bible says you're the slave of sin Cuba's this giant of evangelical culture? He died at ninety nine and defined generations of evangelical culture. You must make a choice. Tonight. Are you going to continue down the broad road that leads to destruction or will you change and go the narrow road that leads to eternal life? This is the choice that only you can make. Ask you one question about your faith will undoubtedly lead to another Rachel held Evans was the thirty seven year old writer changing your mind about one idea means you will likely scrutinize others who didn't always even seem totally sure that she was a Christian and allowing yourself to have doubts about Christianity or about your present version of Christianity. Put your sense of safety security certainty at risk, and yet it is absolutely one hundred percent worth it. She almost single handedly brought together in entirely new kind of community that is defining Christianity for the next generation because living in faith. Tried tested hard, one faith is so much better than living in fear. So my name is Roselle day, white. My name is William still. I am Julie Rogers. I live in Washington DC with my life, and our two cats. When I first encountered way chill, and her work, I had just gone through a divorce. I was still in conversion therapy trying to become straight. She gave me permission to trust that the spirit inside of me. That was leading me to come out as gay was the same spirit inside of me. That was trying to follow God as I understood got it that point. Mitchell's become meaningful, I think, to so many because at some point she began to realize what I've been told. I've been told believe, but I've been told to think isn't all there is. And in fact, sometimes what we've been told to think told believe has been hurting people. So how did we get here? When does the world meet Rachel held Evans? I started having questions about my faith when I was in college as going to Christian college during that time the US invaded Afghanistan, we got involved in Iraq, and I sort of became more aware of world events and how the circumstances of one's birth affect their entire life. And so I start having questions about what that meant when so many people in the world either never had any exposure to Christianity or that exposure has been limited. And so I think the book that really started to put her on the map was a year of biblical womanhood. She committed to spend one whole year living, exactly as if she followed all of the rules for women in the bible. Right. There's a famous passage in the bible. Proverbs thirty one minutes. This long description of all of these things that make a wonderful woman, one of those verses. Her husband is respected at the city gate. So she made this sign Dan, is her husband's just you made the sign that said, is awesome and held up just inside and side of the, the town's entrance amazing. I certainly recommend any other woman, try this, you know, part of the point of doing this show that none of us are actually practicing biblical womanhood, and that we need to be more careful with how each the word biblical. You know, we kinda through that around and stick it in front of other loaded words to train bolster our position on something. And that, that's not only this respectful to women. It's also disrespectful to the bible. I don't think it's meant to be read that way and reduced to this adjective, this idea of challenging reading the bible is this literal document. I mean it's really provocative, because the whole evangelical system for so long had been about biblical literal them. When you had to understand the bible, exactly for the words that it said literally, I think, what often makes someone so powerful is when they start to actually name, something that a lot of people feel. Yeah. And she was writing at the same time that social media was really taking off. I think a lot of women were acting these questions in struggling with issues. What I love about the internet would love about logging give form to who wouldn't otherwise have them, particularly. Machine culture deter diva's racing. I couldn't even pass the offering plate much less teaches Sunday, school class or speak in front of the congregation. And so blogging gave me of ways than even localism that I would never have had because a woman, she broke down the access barrier of who could be asking questions about what it meant to be a Christian, and who got to talk about what those answers might be an how she received by the larger evangelical Christian world. Well, I think at first she was a bit of a curiosity. You told me you have doubts. Yes. What do you doubt? I mean what's the hard perfect? Oh my goodness, where to start. Most a lot of this is really hard to believe. And oftentimes, I think all his resurrection stuff, we made it up because we're afraid of death and this solves that problem, then I doubt when I see people who claim to be Christians, not behaving like Christ. I doubt the Maury. Learn about science and our place in the universe. I wonder where it got fit into all of this. My doubts are pretty consistent part of my faith, she'd speak at churches and most of the time, she was being interviewed by men often told you're losing faith, just pray more. Just read bible. More that'll fix it at the same time. Other people are really flocking to her. There's so many of us that have been disconnected from the church, because the church has been so black, or white Kristin, who thought you know, I've been told my entire life that women can't lead. I wonder if Christianity or something else to say, I think a lot of people their struggles were the same. Right. It's the same kinds of doubts and questions in her. They found this safe place to actually think through some of those I still doubt. I still wake up some mornings unconvinced that the God, I worshiped insurance on Sunday, even exists, and I don't wanna glorify that experience. Because sometimes it sucks. Sometimes it's really lonely and really hard and really scare. Jerry. But I know for a fact it's better than the alternative. As I said, I I've been going through that pollution on this issue. I've always been adamant that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly and equal. It's funny to think about now, but even President Obama than was just kind of getting to the point where he was openly supporting gay marriage. I hesitated on gay marriage in part because I thought civil unions, would be sufficient, agile halts, the division was there. But it was much more under the surface because Evans alkyl teaching has long been that homosexuality is a sin. And that comes from long standing interpretation of biblical passages are just likes to start saying, thank you to everybody for coming tonight. I really appreciate it in the midst of all of this, Rachel decides to question some of what she'd been taught to believe about it. The bible is not opposed to the acceptance of gay Christians in twenty twelve. There's this guy named Matthew vines being. Different is no crime. And he put a video up on YouTube being gay is not a sin. You see him in front of a church. And he is speaking is giving this argument that was pretty revolutionary at the time for gay person to desire, and pursue love and marriage and family is no more selfish, or sinful than a straight person desires and pursues, the very same things you can be gay, and be a Christian, and Rachel wasn't immediately on board. But she listened and timber two thousand thirteen see a blog post about that Huck that I had given and was using it as a way to open up the conversation among the readers on her blog about the bible, and things X relationships and really to try to start presenting an affirming case understanding same sex relationships from a biblical standpoint. And the way that she was approaching it was not again. I. Saying this is what I think. But rather these arguments are worth considering, let's talk through them think through them he wasn't like an accident maker, biblical scholar or someone famous, but she was just interested in what he had to say. She puts this idea out there like will, you know, eventual, maybe we're wrong about homosexuality, and so she and this online community. She's building are working through these questions together in this conversation does not seem like it's necessarily going to be the easiest one for the eventual establishment to stomach yet, that kind of change was such a threat or months after that she was on the receiving, and a lot of mocking abusive commentary, the idea for her of changing her mind about homosexuality, not being a sin that's enough to cause people to. Say she's a heretic, and yet in the midst of all of that, you know, it's so scary to leave behind a really conservative, faith community, even if it's a sort of toxic community. If you're, if you don't have someone else to go her online platform in community mean that's just growing thrall this, it's getting stronger, and, like Rachel bills up other places, and even create a movement that we could be a part of them along to that sort of made it much easier to fully come out of the closet, if I had not come across those people, I think I likely would have stayed in conservative evangelical communities, a lot longer, maybe even tried to marry a man and just see if I could make it work or that might have become so desperate unbearable that I would have just left the church altogether. The next really big issue for her was around race. She would talk about race or write about things around people on the margins. Whether it be racially or identity wise, orientational around this time Trayvon Martin had been shot and killed and George Zimmerman the man who had shot him. He was acquitted her piece on her blog about Trayvon Martin and the verdict around complicity doubt and her role as a white woman, really, really spoke to me. So you have this, this moment when the loudest voices in the more mainstream eventual, culture, white men. Speaking out quite frankly, I think it's more of a sin problem than skin problem. And what I hear people scream black lives matter. I'm thinking, of course they do, but all lunch matter that Rachel did the opposite here, racial starts to give up this platform that. She had created using her platform for a black woman who speaks about racial, Justice, using her platform for a native woman, indigenous woman, who's calling out, right, for indigenous people. If she did that all the time, she starts promoting black writers and speakers. I, I don't know that I had any like standard leaders outside of my friends and family before, so however, long, Rachel introduced me to her literary ages. She introduced me to her speaking ages. She started a conference called y Christian and allowed me to be one of the first seekers of conference, not only use their social platform. She then created to whole events and then brought us to be that events were different races different sexuality. We were we were just different. So different. She had this rare sense, for when she needed to be the one to take a step back. And to listen instead of speaking. I so seeing her hearing her fight with us on side. It was just really powerful. So through all of this, all of this criticism backlash to a certain extent to she ever get to a break in point. Why don't know if had called a breaking point by she does join the Piscopo church in about twenty fourteen and MS very public about why she's formerly leaving of local church for all of my differences with even Jellicoe ISM, I still love that community and silvery Mitch part of that community and I didn't get the sense. It was this, you know, wholesale rejection, it was more of a recognition of the kinds of fights that she did and didn't wanna have anymore and what kind of church, she was able to call home. It's her work to say, although there are rotten roots in our practices around Christianity. We may not have to. Throw the whole thing out. The daily supported by hot wire. When I go on vacation, I hate having to choose between getting a nice hotel, but then skimping on experiences. Well with hot wire, I don't have to choose hot wire is a travel site that heights the hotel name to help you get more for less. You'll still know the neighborhood star ratings and customer reviews you can book with confidence score. Four star hotel at two star prices at H. O. T W IRA. Hot wire dot com. All bookings final fast for two years. You have the twenty sixteen election. I'm wondering what her take on the candidacy of Donald Trump is especially given how many questions were being asked around whether evangelicals we're going to endorse this person this candidate, right? Well, twenty sixteen was hit at all. Crossroads for evangelicals in America with Donald Trump's candidacy, heaven. Locals have long voted for candidates who oppose abortion rights and then candidate, Donald Trump was promising to advance those causes and really significant ways, you know, in the middle of this Rachel comes forward and says, look, I am pro-life but this is why I'm gonna vote for Hillary Clinton. And she ended up writing this article about how she was going to support Hillary Clinton, even though she was still holding onto her pro-life views. So in the article, she said, even though I think, abortion, is morally wrong in most cases and support more legal restrictions around it. I often vote for pro choice candidates when I think their policies will do the most to address the health economic concerns. Dr women to get abortions in the first place for me. It's not just about being pro birth. It's about being pro life. So when does Rachel get sick, so on Palm Sunday in the middle of April, Rachel sends out a tweet, and she says a few are the praying type I'm in the hospital with a flu and you TI combo, and I'm having a severe allergic reaction to the anti-biotics, and she jokes minimus game of thrones and things escalated from there her brain began having these seizures, and they just didn't stop in so she's in the ICU and doctors put her in a medically induced coma at some points. The news trickles out on social media, and everyone organizes a prayer campaign for her with this hashtag pray for our H E, and you started to see this flood of prayers from. Mm, all sorts of people many of whom you had never met each other in person. But we're all part of Rachel's church, you know, on her social media feed, and then on may fourth came the news that all of the sudden she had experienced sudden an extreme changes to her vitals, and her brain was swelling and doctors took emergency action to stabilize her, but the swelling just caused severe damage, and ultimately was not survivable so Rachel died early Saturday morning may fourth twenty nineteen. Let me personally feels like. Of laws. Champions. So let alone in the world because she was in. I'm sorry. Really hard? Once she dies. It's instantaneous. I mean, the outpouring of grief across the world, it wasn't just people who might have considered themselves, Rachel fans, it was people that she had, sparred with evangelical men who should take into task were remembering how grateful they were to her for her authenticity required. A respond her work and her life, demanded a response from people who didn't agree didn't stop that went on for days. People trying to make sense of how someone so loved, and so young just died in the middle of this dynamic work that she was doing. So I have to ask reach. Built this community. And now she's gone, what happens. Well, you might think that when someone so central to community dies that the whole project might disintegrate, but Rachel, evolution gave all of the fearlessness, too evolved to and because he had created much community lean knew that we didn't have to evolve alone. She walked with a if nobody else would she would walk with the folks are shutting out of the church today? We'll be leading tomorrow that spirit work futures in the margin. I hope that we will embody her legacy of freedom because she said, so many of us free. I think the movement that she's Bill will only grow because she was here long enough, and she was working long enough in order to make changes. I don't think we'll be able to done. I really don't. The last thing that her readers heard from her was this blog post that she wrote for lent and I'll read it. She said it strikes me today that the liturgy of Ashwin stay teaches something that nearly everyone can agree on, whether you are part of a church or not, whether you believe today or you doubt, whether you are Christian or an atheist or agnostic, you know, this truth deep in your bones. Remember that you are dust and to dust, you will return death is a part of life, my prayer for you this season. Is that you make time to celebrate that reality? And to grieve that reality, and that you will know you are not alone. I keep thinking about the women. He showed up at the tomb on Easter morning on the days that I believe the story. I'm struck by the fact that they showed up with Barrio spices. They showed up ready to walk through the rituals of grief and say goodbye to their friend. That was women's work in those days tending to Volterra both things. But it's only intending to the voter -able things that we can expect to witness a miracle. I can't promise you resurrection, but I can promise you, companionship, I can promise. You friends for the journey, I can promise you fellow travelers to help you carry those burial spices. And as we tend to the vulnerable things together may the God of every season, the God of survival. And if not survival and death and resurrection bless preserve and keep you now and forever. Almond. The funeral for ritual held Evans was held this past weekend in Chattanooga. Tennessee, the Yuji was delivered by her high school youth pastor who said that being her pastor head, not been easy, because she was constantly asking questions and challenging him. She he said like Jesus was a revolutionary. In the weeks since Evans has reappeared on the New York Times bestseller list for the book. She wrote about grappling with her faith searching for Sunday. Thanks to Willie style. 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You Only Live Twice - Scene and Title Song Analysis

Cracking the Code of Spy Movies!

50:26 min | 2 months ago

You Only Live Twice - Scene and Title Song Analysis

"Unst real told me session inherited in hong kong years. This is my second life. You only live twice mr bond today. Were cracking the code of the fifty and productions james bond movie you only live twice and looking to see whether there are connections and relationships with other movies and other events and closely analyzing the title song. Let's go. hi. This is dan sylvestry. Tampa's out the huggies of spy movie navigator dot com. So let's get cracking on. You only live twice. And see how bond the writers and the producers pull this off first of all the title comes directly from ian fleming's novel you only live twice published march twenty six thousand nine hundred sixty four. The last fleming novel published while he was alive fleming died august twelfth. Nineteen sixty four so it was written after dr. No the movie was released. And in the novel we learn of james bond scottish roots and his father was scottish. Andrew bond from glencoe. This is fleming's nad to sean connery. But the title comes specifically from the pages of fleming's novel. I went back and looked right in our version of the book. It's on page. Eighty seven while tanaka and bond are speaking of a famous japanese poet. Who wrote hi coups. Tanaka asked bond to write one in bonn after much thought rights. You only live twice once when you were born in once when you look death in the face while it was an admirable attempt at a haiku. Which by the way on the seventeen syllables in the form. The first line having five the second having seven and the third having five bond did not write a haikou. Tanaka pointed that out. And says maybe you were thinking about your mission. So good go anyway. That's where it comes from kind. We'll start with the pre title sequence. Which will with a scene that is a modernized version of what we saw in the nineteen ninety nine movie planes also now as clouds over europe in new orleans twice we see united states spice capsule that easing gulf another spice craft incapacitating eight and the communication abilities. The process the crew is captured. The city set for the mission. Who is responsible. Also these international incident eventually james bond rescued the crew lighter in the movie productions recycled this trump in nineteen seventy seven. James bond movie. The spy who loved me in this movie stromberg shift the lip arrest. Swallows hygienist of the soviet potemkin submarines in the nineteen thirty nine movie campaigns. An organization assumed to be the germans incapacitates trying allowed them onto their sheet relied to say town vine rescuing the crew and a fight ensues. We've a couple of podcasts. On hugh brian's never purpose of them stealing the plans in is to steal technology in you only twice. It is a post tension between the us on the russians and have these. Tensions escalated to war between the two countries. Now next we see bonding bed with a chinese woman is a folding to the wall bed. She arises phipps abetting the wall with bounden. It out opens the door and gunman coming. I'm riddle the bottom of the bed with bullets. Of course we are led to believe that bond is dead and the place combing your another movie where it seems like they kill bond at the beginning of. Yeah that's going to happen. Yeah i like the way it's done though. I love it. This is one of my favorite pre title sequences. So on a video call a couple of months ago. Honoring sean connery's work. With steven jay rubin author of the james bond movie encyclopaedia and lee pfeiffer the author of the essential james bond and the incredible world of double o seven. Lee said you see bullet holes in the bottom of the bed but wait. Aren't they shooting blanks. Because we find out later than all this was a set up to look like bonds dead so this is a brilliant point. Because i've watched this thing hundred times. I never thought that. So those get there and he said it's obvious that the chinese woman and the gunman in the british agents were all part of this plan. So why is this a big spectacle. Anyway it's all the people who see him. Dead are already know this part of the deal so it was. I love how you see the blood. But there's no bullet holes and bond. Yeah but this is. This is a great point. I love it right so now we get onto the title sequence which to me. The most intriguing part of the movie is the title song. I love the title song of this thing. And how it fits. Bird or doesn't fit into james. Bond's life yeah you know you only live twice as a great song and i like it a lot. I went to look at is the lyrics and see how they compare to. What really happens in the movie or what it means the bond in bonds life and what we know of bonds. So we're going to go through the lines of you only live twice now. Nancy sinatra sang this version of the song. So we're going to talk about this version of the song. The official title song. You only live twice so it starts off. You only live twice or so. It seems one life for yourself in one for your dreams so all right. Let's look at this for bond for band. He lives his professional life as a spy and then his dream life enjoying beluga caviar dom perignon women whatever in a different kind of life. So this line is a very good line not only not only for this movie. But in general for bond. So let's look at the next set of lines you drift through the years and life seems tame till one dream appears in love is its name okay. All right for bond sorry. I'm sorry there is nothing tame about bonds life his job and no drifting through the years drifting always implies passiveness like He's drifted through that's never compliment so this doesn't seem to be a good word here. Drifting through the year they may fly by. Maybe quickly for buying drifting. Nah i don't think so. In tame what about bonds life is tame. I would rather have had the line be this. And i'm willing to write lines for you guys if you want all right. Here's my line you push. Are you listening to music for you and michael. You know you can help out with this to michael. Gee whiz you pushed through the years not knowing who to blame. That's better than you drift. Through the years and life seems tame fit. Put plug this in. You push through the years not knowing who to blame. This makes sense to bond. Because he doesn't know. I blame myself for the way i am. I can't live. i can't balance my dream. My realize this is the line. Michael and barbara please right then teric but i i do like the till one dream appears line and let's face it bond though he avoids love sometimes love does appear and this is a dream for him. So that's a good line all right. Let's move on and love is a stranger who'll beckon you on. I was gonna sing it. That would be bad and love is walked sing anymore and love is a stranger. Who'll beckon you on. Don't think of the danger or the stranger is gone for bond. Love is a stranger but when he's falling for it it does beckon him. Further best berlin tracy di vincenzo. We've seen it before. Yeah mantle and swan now and at the moment living in the dream you can't think of the danger of love or this stranger of we'll leave good bond lines. There's danger everywhere. Yes but in his dream life maybe maybe he can try to avoid that. So i like that set of lines. No changes there barber. Michael good all right. Make sure you what you like to. This dream is for you so pay the price make one dream come true. You only live twice For bond the dream has been his a couple of times like we've mentioned and maybe now with with swan we'll find out so make that dream come true in one life the other of his spying espionage death and mayhem all around now. That's not happening there. So that's that's good. So i like these lines too good for bond and for all of us. There's a price to everything we do. There's an opportunity gained or an opportunity lost in virtually anything we do in life. So yes if the dream is for bond he has to pay the price. Harder bounds the dream life with his life of espionage. That is tough so the advice here to ban is the make one dream come true because you only live twice the dream. He has some control over his work. No not really unless e quits which we've seen him do a number of times in the movies just when he thought he was out they pulled them back so anyway the couple of lines repeat against all the lyric are good for a banfield. But there's really a story behind this title song. So there's an article by six dash eight q dot com. Made two thousand seventeen for the fiftieth anniversary of this movie. And it's titled you only sing twice container for what you're going to talk about. Originally they say julie rogers who they wanted to sing this song not nancy sinatra and that indeed. The british singer did record a version in nineteen sixty seven. It's often called the demo version. So you can look that up on youtube. But it was indeed the full song recorded and presented to the producers and the producers. Nixed the song for a variety of reasons. They say only two lines or kept from the original julie rogers virgin you only live twice and you'll pay the price and what i liked about the original son. Is it really has an asian influence to the music which sadly disappears in the nancy sinatra version and because cubby broccoli new frank sinatra called him to do the song and frank set now. I don't wanna do it. Try my daughter. She's pretty good so they got nancy. Nancy had a very narrow vocal range and so they tried to record the song number of times. I think it was like twelve times and they finally piece together pieces from all different twelve recordings the make the finals on which is what we have to get it right. So so the julie rogers version. I loved the song. Has this asian influence in the music. And it's just terrific. Actually neither the music nor the lyrics are the same now except a couple of lines. I like it better than the nancy sinatra version. There's a link to the original version on our website and the episode notes. Check it out. Listen to it a couple of times and we think you'll like it to both versions. I've written by john berry and leslie bricusse quickly. Here are the lyrics to the original. You only live twice song. Which lyrics are pretty damn good. You only live twice no more than twice and each life you live. You're playing with dice. That's perfect for bond. Right playing with dice casinos everything else and the gamble of dice. Beautiful line the first game is love. Beware it's nice. The second is death. Who's cold charms. Entice you you gamble with danger. You gamble with love. Each won a stranger in a black velvet glove. Nice line perfect kind of disguised. Smooth clean fooling you. And if you lose you'll pay the price. Good luck with the dice. You only live twice and then it repeats. I love those lyrics. I think the original song with the asian influence in the lyrics terrific for me. You only live twice is my favorite of all the bugs sums. It sound melodic. It's perfectly with the location in the film and the soundtrack is mind behind that of majesty secret service to this episode is sponsored in part by spy coffees dot com. A us-based veteran owned small business. If you're a coffee drinker check them out our listeners. Get a twenty percents discount when they use the coupon code spy natve at checkout. That's p. y. N. a. v. Get yours today. At spike coffees dot com. Okay so back. To the beginning of the movie after the title sequence. There's a fake burial at sea. That happens right. After the title sequence it has appeared to make us believe that james bond is dead and to anyone watching and there's a guy watching thinks that bond is dead. It's really one of my favorite opening scenes of any bond movie. It's well done to all of it. And i love the line from bonn requests permission to come aboard sir permission. Grounded thank you. I mean every time. I see that that cracks me up because we know bond always follows the rules. We say fight funerals in numerous by the james bond movie that came before these one thunderball opens the fight. Funeral jaguar in his pre title sequence. Check out our podcast on. Thunderball if you want to hear our analysis that one and vicky didn't you just release on your podcast channel something about the scene. Yes your channel of the boundary. More locked of just hiking look at the stretch limo that features in dishonorable sequence. There was the name of that again. The bonding room. yeah cool. It's a fun channel. Check it out and before you only live twice the nine hundred thirty six movie secret agent opens with a fake funeral for an agent named ashington and we have a podcast on secret agent as well you can find that on our websites by moving navigator dot com and the links will be in the episode notes as well for those of you watching the video. Just click on that card so then bond goes to a sumo wrestling match at a tokyo sumo hall. This was a real sumo hall which has been replaced with a more modern facility and it was really a great scene for a few reasons. First reason was it actually had some well-known sumo wrestlers in it. Saddana yama shin. Matsu was a popular sumo wrestler. At the time. He's the one who gives bond the ticket in the changing room. He was the fifth yokozuna. The highest rank japanese sumo wrestling. Even though the sumo wrestling we saw was stage for the movie and wasn't a real tournament they use the real facility. And again we get dose of realism of japanese culture. Which i love how they inter. We've that through this movie. The sumo hall is one of the many places where they show this culture and they put a good effort in throughout the movie to show the culture where they could. We have to remember that. This was nineteen sixty. Seven and japan was an exotic location. For most north americans and europeans was the largest james bond audience bringing forth the japanese culture not only allowed in fleming in the novel and em productions in the movie to show their respect to the japanese but it also educated their audience with things. They may not have seen before these types of scenes bring some realism but they don't overdo it. And i love the way. They did that now if they didn't try to make it look japanese which we'll talk about later. I would have been much happier. This is one of the things they took from the fleming book. But i think they missed the execution and how they banned assigned james bond. I like how they infused the movie with the japanese culture as you're talking about tom in the sumo wrestlers seeing you mentioned wedding seeing the bath house seen the funeral seeing the fishing village. All really great intriguing enlightening and entertaining and infusing us with the japanese culture. Which is why. I wish they would have kept original julia. Rogers song there you go. Yeah could just imagine it. Nineteen sixty seven use of these locations and the customs and the cultures relative relatively unknown to the pine odeon celebes full of be stream mistake. I just love it. And i've been japan wants. I would love to go back. Because it is very different than what we have here. In north america or where i've been in europe and so i love the fact this movie gave us. Some of that feel are then. We see hockey. Take bond henderson's and she's driving a convertible toyota two thousand. Gt which debuted for this movie. We actually see it a few times. They the fun part here is they had to make the car convertible because sean connery and his body double were too big and wouldn't fit under the top of the car in the regular coupe version of this thing. It was also supposedly the first convertible in japan so generated a lot of buzz. Their toyota only may do of the convertibles of the two thousand. Gt both for you. Only live twice and this thing. I think two things one is a spy should never have a convertible. Because that's dangerous right bad idea and number two if you look closely you freeze frame it when you're watching that scene when they're in the car when aki and bonder in the car look at the top corners of the windshield and you'll see they're a little rough and you can tell that they did something to the car there and it's not a smooth line so you could see that they they actually did modify the car there. But it's going to sell all of this cozma second car behind the multi really. It was very feminine. And very although i will side. Aki always seemed to arrive in the nick of told him holding. She'd no the bond with needing help. She just comes roundabout and she's appears that one always so to me. Every time i watch the fill so well trained. The deco henderson character was based on ian fleming's friend australian journalist richard hughes hughes introduced fleming to toronto tigers. Eat though when hughes inside heathrow took fleming around japan as fleming was researching. The book in the book henderson doesn't die. This was the first james bond movie to diverge from the novel as much as it did. This was doing parts of the fact that on her majesty's secret service was written. I saw tracy died before this novel was written. These movies came out and reverse order in the movie henderson gets killed. Just as he's about to tell what's up well. Where have we seen that before. Well it's actually a fairly common trope and movies in fact so much that the person dying mid-sentence is used as a cliche in this broadway musical called a day in hollywood and night in the ukraine. The show has a song called. I love a film cliche and one of the cliches they talk about. Is this dying mid-sentence. And when i re watched this movie before we did this podcast. I saw that happened instantly. Brought me to that song from the musical. Yeah and it's always the same thing if they say well meet me there at ten o'clock and by ten o'clock that guy dead of course lew. It always happens so they should never delay speaking whatever they have to speak. All henson wasn't delaying there. It just got it. So when bongos who assad chemical first time. He gets into a fight with asian henchmen to me. This fight brought me back to the fight with odd job in goldfinger. Did you know that the henchman was other than accent wrestler. Dwayne the rock johnson. Sr grandfather idea. Who was a samoan american wrestler himself. Well that's great. I didn't know that either cool on decides to break into the safe that he finds in osaka chemical. It's a good thing. He happens to have a safe cracker in his pocket. Of course who doesn't carry one of those around. It's cool to see how this has changed in two movies. Remember how big that. Safecracker thing was in on her majesty's secret service. Yeah but on her majesty's secret service. It was huge but it was also a photo copier is at that time. Were not that small. So that's bond has one of these in his pocket because he knows he might be trying to break into this guy safe so it's all electrical like how has the ninja suit later when they go into the volcano tall planning. It's planning. he's well trained. He knows what he needs an exactly what he needs when he needs part of being a spy and he isn't showing good spice stuff when he falls down that slide and into the chair when he's chasing after ocoee where we seen that before. Yeah he's not looking good like a good spy and even tanaka which is the interesting part here on sun a bond son he. I was surprised that it was so easy to lure bond into his trap so up. Good is bond predictable. Give them a pretty woman and he's going to chase after her. Yeah so the point of detriment is on detriment but in this case turned out. Okay on the good side bond and targets on targets private train target comments. Halley assumes an has something similar to get around in london safely without being we've seen Many spy movies. Unusually there is a fight onboard and sometimes outside of the train russia with love our mission impossible. Obviously ampoules of these ignani choice. It is a private train that is used as a marble. There's a lot of cools train scenes in lots of movies including the thirty nine steps which was the first spy movie in one thousand nine thirty five. This is nice people in the train here. It's it is gorgeous. It's reminiscent i of the james west artists gordon train on the popular tv. Show the wild wild west. They had a private train car. As did come to think of it. Elektron million in goldeneye as well so lots of this kind of thing going. Hey we are reminded that bundy's learned man who knows he's costumes when drinking sake he signs at the temperature should be served at ninety eight point four degrees fahrenheit but he called it sacchi with hard. A hoops tiger used the software. So i thought that was pretty funny to me. Yeah yeah he knows a lot of stuff though. Bobby he does. It's amazing right next week. Get into a thing with a computer. So i had the diving this a little bit. Of course we have the scene where we see the operators working on a computer. And you've got the camera following and tracking bonds movements and this thing cracked me up totally it looks like a glorified adding machine with a small tv screen next to it. Well it turns out. That's pretty true with what this thing was. I love looking at computer stuff. My first foray into programming was in the language. Fortran on punch cards in one thousand. Nine hundred eighty so. I needed to dive into this a little bit more technology. That was from seventeen years before i. I started doing punch cards so in researching this computer. It looks for me that the part on the left of it the part without the little screen his the keyboard for a boroughs. He twenty one hundred direct accounting computer. Sure that's what i was thinking. So borough started as an adding machine company so the keyboard designed in this thing really makes sense. And it's amazing to see how computers have evolved since then anyway the screen monitor would have been added just for effect this computer or would have not been able to be used as a monitor for camera norwood. That keyboard had been controlling the camera. It was more like representing the technology rather than using the existing technology time right and it seems to be. That's kind of what it's doing. I mean because this technology would not have been used to do what they did with it. Yeah the twenty one hundred existed but was for accounting and lighter computing needs. Yeah i don't know if there were monitoring systems that could have done what we saw here. And i'm basing my son that this was the boroughs twenty one hundred based on a youtube video that i saw young. Tom put a link to show notes on. Because i'm sure you all want to click on it. Because i wanted to know more about the twenty one hundred for sure exactly so i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i spent a lot of time looking through this trying to find out what that computer was. I'm pretty sure. I've got that right. Game and boroughs is now called unisys. And just kinda close that up so if you're looking for boroughs and unisys know why many people will be looking that up. I'm sure all right So to ask what happened to the previous managing director williamson. When james bond tells him had williamson doi's the size are so how shocking back to the pre title sequence in golfing shocking. Positively shopping engulfing. It was great lying because the guy gets electrocuted in the bathtub. So shocking is perfect. Perfect lying for that. So there are a couple of comments about smoking in this movie and the first one comes up in this scene when bonds talking to assad and asada says he should give up smoking now. Maybe that line was only there to get to the line about liking healthy chest. Smoking was very common with japanese people at this time. So it doesn't seem to be culturally accurate to me. My understanding based on my research has back in one thousand nine hundred sixty six up to eighty three percent of all japanese men smoked. Now that's dropped dramatically since to just under thirty percent but back in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. It was eighty three percent of the men smoke so we also have to remember that coming smoked. Which is why bond smoked so the bond character over the years has changed in the films concerning smoking. Connery lazenby bond smoke cigarettes roger. moore's moved to cigars. Dalton brought back cigarettes and brosnan craig. Don't smoke in the bond movies hover. Roger did smoke a lot of cigarettes in the saint always. Well actually. i'm going to stop you there. In india another die from two thousand into we do say bond smoking a cigar as jinx emerges from the ocean. Maybe this was a highlight to havana. Cuban cigars cuban cigar lighter say in the mouth of row or an intelligence operative on mate in the seinfeld true. Good point good point and so you got all these statistics that tom Highlighted here with the smoking statistics and everything. And then you have the concept. They wrote the scene for the healthy chest. Line fast really what they did. I definitely setting up the line for the healthy chest for the writers. Because that's what they wanted to do. He also sees the bonds carrying a weapon because he's got the x. Ray machine on them constantly and so not wanting to referred to the gun. He sees but wanting to let bond squirm a little bit. Maybe he says you are taking a risk right now. Then he throws in the cigarette line. So it's good well if they tried to do that today. The movie rating industry at its smoking to it's raining criteria. So it's possible they wouldn't have been able to get a pg thirteen on this the us they may be doing ours based on the amount of smoking that gets done in the movie. So this was sixty-seven. Though dan and again if they were trying to be culturally accurate eighty three percents then smell. They wrote it for the line to give two shits about the percentages. They wrote the scene for the chest line period. That's act but there's another comment later about bond. Smoking too much. Tiger uses chest line associated with tanaka. Cigarette line is there so tanaka. Say the cigarette can save your life because it shoots a propelled bullet in can be used as a weapon. So there you go the same land bonding akio. Escaping henchmen from a south chemicals has a nice coal back to goldfinger after. Aki tells tiga arrange usual reception place. Helicopter takes over car with a magnet like lincoln at the metal scrapyard. Engulfing them but this time the end these are dropping the ocean instead of a pressing engagement. Yeah the thing that gets me about this. Whole setup of the scene is that when bond escaping from los altos headquarters inaki says get in the car and the henchman are firing automatic weapons at bonn as soon as bond jumped into the car the pursuit car then proceeds the taste them. Hey why not stop and riddled with bullets. Right then and there and kill them both. I mean you had them there. You have easy access to shoot their heads and upper bodies in a convertible. Like i said never a good idea but no they're willing to chase them and shoot hanging out of the windows of the pursuit vehicle Yeah there's a good idea. I do like the drop in the ocean. Line and the concept though The helicopter again would have to be at the ready at all times and hopefully arise before one of those bullets hit sake or bond in a convertible db five is a better idea so then pan-tel's tiger have 'em send over little nellie and q. Or it's it's father. He said which got me thinking again today. The fastest flight from london to tokyo is twelve and a half hours. How long was it back then before q. Actually was able to get there. According to graham thomas book the definitive story of you only live twice. When fleming made his first trip to japan. It took twenty six hours and had at least three stops and that was in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. I haven't been able to find anything that tells me back in one thousand nine hundred sixty six or sixty seven when they went to film this movie how long that would have been. It does appear to me though that the scene with little nellie is at least the next day if not further along than that. Yeah when they were filming the scene little nellie which is really a cool device in the and it's a it's a neat scene it's cool seen. It was being attacked by the other helicopters as we saw in the movie aviation cinema tiger for john jordan. Who hang from a helicopter landing struts. Get great shots for films. Had a foot almost completely severed by the helicopter blade when the two helicopters were pursuing little. Nellie it was surgically reattached but it was never right and was eventually removed and he died. D-actually tragically filming catch. Twenty two falling out of a plane. Two thousand feet into the pacific because of the bad footing literally so tough time filming that scene and other james bond movie encyclopaedia by steven jay rubin and also our spy movie database and by moving navigator dot com as more details on this accident. If you want to find out more. Just look up johnny jordan. Yeah kai-bong bond gets into a fight of the ducks. Bond played for connery shoots henchmen on the stage. Who has something non gun in his hand. He has now quick. Pass these points however come. Without thinking of the movie the untouchables where connery size as in just like a walk brings life to go and fight connery. Shift him in the untouchables. But you wonder effect seen in you. Only live twice. Influenced the writing of the untouchables. I'm always amazed at how often those pursuing bond or those who want to incapacitate him or kill him are so ill equipped with weapons. How poor they are at firing them if they do have weapons because they can never get their target. It's frustrating to watch this kind of stuff and think okay bonds got guns these guys have billy clubs i even when they've got a gun bloomfield points a gun at bond shoots asada who's standing next to him and doesn't go back and shoot bond. Yeah he had something special forum. It's the megalomaniac thing shoot up. They've got a better way of killing him. Better more dramatic you. It's going to be just kill all of the same especially the roof. Talk fight whereby the camera pans out to the sounds of the replaced samsung each house audience. The scale of the operation in which bond finds himself up bond goes up stairs just surround the building. He's not gonna get away with all these guns. Just wait out. Never understand these guys know. It's hard to nypd date. Maybe they did that so that could then do these. Big artie rooftop fight with music and had in mind takeout six guys or seven guys or whatever yes because none of them have a good weapon. all right so next helga. Brandt opens the drawer. She's got bond in this room. She opens a store that has metal tools in it and she takes out. Plastic surgeons metal knife. The dermot thome now. This is a bit frightening is most people don't know how dermot thome is used. Although she says it's sliced skin that said it is a lot lower key than when jeremy irons character. Elliot his implements in the movie. Dead ringers. I love the glint of the light off of the blade when she first pulls it out. That's really a nice cinemagraphic touch. But i also wonder why she flipped over to the good sides so quickly and cut bond loose or so. It seems you had them. They're tied up. And you have a bleed in your hand. A sharp scalpel dermot thome. You can easily kill him but no no let's put him in a plane traps hands and parachute out so he can crash and die. That's a better plan. Okay these guys never learn no all right when we see little. Nellie we talked about a little bit before. Tiger marks it and call to toy helicopter in real life. It's an auto gyro. This is a real thing was designed and built by former. Raf wing commander. Kenneth h wallace wallace also fluid in the movies. This is a more sophisticated auto gyro than the one. We saw briefly in the thirty nine steps that we mentioned the while ago. The i spy movie back in nineteen thirty five that was chasing hannie one thing way advanced from what ends up as a reality years later is how the spaceship lands inside the volcano rocket base. Now we all know. The volcano can atoms. Set was fabulous. The cost a million dollars. Amazing cost a million dollars to build one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. There's a lot of money. That's not how nasa or russia was planning to do spacecraft reentry when this movie was created. It wasn't until the space shuttle in nineteen eighty that reusable flights from orbit really occurred. There are a few companies. Most notably now spacex and blue origin that have successfully recovered parts of rockets for reuse. Like the first stage rocket. And so on the spacex rocket's first-stage flies back through its target in returns and looks somewhat similar. What we see in this scene in you only live twice without the visible cable. Of course that's recovering the rockets. The astronauts will still splash. You can see how this looks today if you look at the video when our show notes on the falcon nine. This whole concept is odd to be sure number one that an independent terror organization like spectre has the resources both technically and monetarily. They have much more sophisticated technology than huge countries like the soviet union and the united states and too when you see the rocket land in the volcano or is about to take off from the volcano. There is no way it's large enough to capture and swallow of a space capsule but willing suspension of disbelief must be activated often in bond movies. So switch it. Of course the 'blow fell headquarters in the volcano was supposed to be the shimo. Dokki volcano a real volcano. It's assumed it is a dormant volcano as opposed to an extinct or active volcano but the real volcano has erupted in recent times nineteen fifty nine one thousand nine hundred one thousand eight thousand nine two thousand eleven two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen and two thousand and twenty not exactly dormant that could have really ruined bloomfield's plants little headband film shields the element of swallowing bakos throughout the films. We see in the spy hit of. May we've really press course in. You only live twice with the rockets in tomorrow never dies. The drill creates a hole in the side of the hatch. Made stephen share and the ocean. Swallows eight it's out of billions want to consume everything in there okay then tiger shows on the ninja training school and although ninjas have been in movies starting back in the silent movie days i was probably something called jeremiah. Go get to wanna got three many movies including ninjas but you only live twice was one of the first. Mainstream movies to feature them was released outside japan in from russia with love the sequence after christine and cleverly blow felts office has klab walking with more zinni to meet red grant. That training facility is similar to this without the ninjas. The book from russia with love was published in nineteen fifty seven. So it's unlikely. The two scenes were related but there are some similarity at least with what we see in these two movies tell again has the same with bond that is very reminiscent of the q branch sequences in audubon films. Tiger shows. James bond something. He called a rocky god. I thought that it was just a fictitious proper now. That was a real gun at the time. With these odd-looking microjets what would normally be called a bullet but this is where the magic and the problem with the gun was the micro jet accelerates after he leaves the good. It's cool to watch because you can see the nanka jet kick in on the videos as the bullet accelerates however they could manufacture a consistent burn right on the mark projects and there was no rifling in the barrel because the acceleration happens after the ram blades. A barrel so it was just moving too slow to spain consistently rifling this might the molly krige it fairly accurate and judging You could shoot it. It was tough with the inconsistent band. Times if he got to goldens dot com. Instead of gyro jet. You can say the rail themed. These are manufactured for years. The patent was nineteen sixty five but were commercial. Failure rail rocket guns by joy jet with manufactured for a few years around the release of you only live twice. You could learn more bad days from an article on guns dot com code nineteen sixties kill. The rarely seen gyro jet semi auto pistol. We'll put a link to that in our show notes netizens even cooler video that shows the pitcher and the rifle variant of this goon being fired testing gyro jet rocky goods. Why would i commercial again. We'll put that in the show notes. These also have seen in the matt helm movie murderers row which came out a year. Before you look twice then we get another smoking comment. This time from tiger makes crack about smoking too much as he shows them the cigarette that shoots out that exploding loan. Yeah we mentioned this a little earlier again. The cracks seems out of place in japanese culture at the time when smoking was prevalent among men. Remember tiger says it could save your life. The cigarette that line saves the scene at the cigarette comes in very handy for bond later. It it does reminds me of the wrist Weapon in moon. River shooting darts. Gotta have these things somewhere. That's good bam gets fake married to kisii. You do get to see part of the wedding ceremony itself. This was another scene exposing us to japanese culture and it was really cool because the japanese wedding is a little bit different than what we see here in north america at least now according to graham thomas in that book that we referred to earlier. This wedding was done very authentically. But the marriage wasn't real it was a sham to make it look like they got married much like they did the fake burial at sea at the beginning of the movie. They're trying to make people think one thing when that's not the reality now. We did see bond getting married and the next movie on her majesty's secret service but remember that her majesty's secret service. The novel came out before you only live twice while we didn't see on getting married in on her majesty's secret service. The scene actually starts at the reception after the ceremony. But james and tracy did get married in that movie. Unlike bonding kissy who got fake married in this one. As we've mentioned in past podcasts. It's a bit unusual to see a spy. Get married in a spy movie. There are some but it's not often you see this so you have this wedding here. The real marriage and honor matchy secret service felix and delegate married in licence to kill mission. Impossible three has ethan and julia getting married. So you do see some spies getting married but not often. It probably has something to do with the nature of the job. And you're not to be too often for your spouse albany stuffing james bond. Japanese disguised is one of the lesser. Things are like about fail. It's terrible face. And i m copays. Do we really believe that he looks japanese. No this makeover almost ruin the movie for me. It was so bad. And i was just so turned off with it. But there's a lot of this movie. I really liked but this really turn me off how they did that. Yeah he didn't look japanese. And i don't know who they were trying to fool. I guess you've everyone watching what six six two in real life he was hunting down to. You could see him hunting down. China look shorter. Okay all right so after the wedding they go to kiss place. And he's trying to seduce kissy and he says to her but we must keep up appearances. Were on our honeymoon. She and her responses no honeymoon this business and it got me thinking to mario. Puzo used this line to help him. Create the wonderful line from the movie from nineteen sixty nine. The godfather also appears in the nineteen. Seventy two movie. You know the line. It's not personal sunny. It's strictly business. This reminds me of perhaps my favorite bond villain franz sanchez played by robert davi of course in the nineteen eighty nine bond film. Licensed to kill when they're about the feed felix to the sharks. I want you to know. It's nothing personal. It's purely business. Love robert davin that role so comes back in another bond movie. And i've got to believe that all three of them were connected to this line in you only live twice and she actually says it twice in this movie so i think it's a fairly important line and it's one that most people associate with the godfather version yet this preceded bond and kissy go to the cave. That had that phosgene gas. This gas was actually used in world. War one by the germans and injured more than a thousand british soldiers and twelve of them died. He was responsible for eighty five percent of the chemical weapons fatalities in world war one. Now we've looked and we've not been able to find anything other than documentaries on world war one in the movie world. That actually mentioned phosgene gas. This is the only movie that really covers it. So it's kind of an interesting twist that they would pull this gas out as the villain in the cave but again. The the writers on writers are cleverly. Cleverly-worked worked this gas into this movie because it was a real gas. And that's what i love about in productions and they're writers. They do look for events and things from the real world to make their movies more topical more realistic in a sense. So i love that they do that and it's great so i love that it's in there. I did too emplo. Fells layer one of his possessions is a madonna of hans. Holbein oil painting by hans holbein the younger in real life. This painting sold at auction in two thousand eleven for seventy million dollars. The painting in the movie is very dark and not nearly as colorful as the original. Especially around madonna's head it had hung in the darmstadt until two thousand three polo. There was a copy of a maiden sixteen thirty. But i'm not sure why blofeld would have it. It's not a stolen painting. It's plain painting where we know where a was at the time this movie was done so i'm not sure why blow fell would have nose but again much like the duke of wellington portrait that was brought in to doctor no which was really stolen from the national gallery in london a couple years before the filming of doctrine no and it was still missing the time here in you only live twice bring in another real art object as a background piece again and it's just good writing and good prop work. I i like kind of stuff. There were a couple other pieces of are on the wall that i couldn't identify. I'm sure someone out there. More adept at art than i am could them. So if you do know what other was on the wall please leave us a message on our website spy movie navigator dot com or on facebook. Also in this movie. There's a minor role of character in houston who communicated radar information to washington. That character was portrayed by a guy named david healy. He's also the guy with the glasses in. Diamonds are forever who talks to willard. White telling him the position of the satellite hotels willard white. Everything's on track. Were all okay. He also had an extremely similar role without the glasses in the episode called the island on the tv show called the baron. That episode also had a henchman played by terry mountain who we recently interviewed and podcast. So it's just kind of a little fun. This guys had three roles that i've seen him in and all of been almost the same character. all right. the attack on the volcano lair is classic with ninjas bond tanaka kissy blow failed in his army of men all over the place. The set of course is magnificent. Ken adam we know that everything is going to blow up at. The end usually started by bond but this time initiated by blow failed as he escapes as he sets in motion the self-destruct mechanism that will blow up the volcano base. Wow now part of that plan. Is that the explosion will get the lava flowing and add to the destruction of people and property and just obliterate is leir any evidence of it they do. In fact show lava flowing in one of the shots. There have been articles. Written suggesting an explosion would more than likely not get the lava flowing Details details hey. This is bond but anyway. It's a nice wrap up for the movie and the kind of attack on the villain's lair. That we come to expect right in general. I liked this movie. I'm sean connery fan. And so there's something. I like about all of his bond movies but this one is entertaining the sets by ken. Adam spectacular the introduction of japan and its culture to many viewers at the time a great idea and overall a good bond outing even though the fundamental concept of capturing the space capsule in space in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven was a bit farfetched. But hey this is bond yeah. This is the one. Sean connery movie. That i not likely to pull off the shelf very often. I like the touches of reality in the japanese culture brings in that whole bonda son thing. They did with trying to make him look japanese. Almost ruins us movie for me. See i'm going to be controversial. Hey ya these massively over thunderball. When are you guys love to undergo which as my least five connery film yet. That's a big statement. You only live twice. As a spectacle. Bond big sense exotic locations larger than life villain moi. Finally blau felt. I could imagine watching this back in the nineteen sixties caught up in the wound of the orient. Bond pure escapism. Yeah yeah it was a heck of a movie for nine hundred sixty as a tangent to the sumo wrestling conversation we just had sumo wrestling can save lives. Cubby broccoli harry saltzman. And i believe it was can add them. Were scheduled to leave japan when they were filming you only live twice and they decided to delay their flight and stay for a wrestling match that they've been wanting to go to so they did that. They postponed the flight. They got on a different flight. The flight they were supposed to on crashed in everyone aboard was killed. So harry saltzman cubby broccoli and kanana them by going to the sumo wrestling match. Save their lives. That's a fact really is kind of scary stuff was a british airways nine eleven flight all right all in all a good movie with interesting connections and some interesting scenes that we've taken a look at well. Let's wrap as we've cracked the code of the james bond movie. You only live twice. Please tell your friends about our show and give us a five star rating on the app. You're listening on nap. Follow us on twitter. Facebook and instagram. To thanks for listening.

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We have a new show email. It is with friends at crooked dot com. That's with friends at crooked dot com. Please send your comments and suggestions and maybe some criticism and it will give me a chance to work on taking them now to the show itself. Our guest is julie. Rogers the author of out love a queer christian survival story. Her story is unique. Because julie wasn't just a queer person to survive a conservative evangelical community. She was paraded. Around is a kind of success story a mascot a lesbian who wanted to be straight and then lesbian who had renounced sex in order to stay in her faith when i think about our theme of good intentions and this story about how julia was trying so hard to make everyone happy. She wanted so badly to have her faith and her family and it wound up almost breaking her and as you might guess from the title of her book and what i just told you we talk a lot about the evangelical church in this episode and we talk about the ways it has harmed queer people. I know some of you up. There are survivors of that kind of abuse. And you may not want to listen to this conversation. And i totally get that. I do not use the term. Abusive lightly in describing. What has happened. Queer people who find themselves in evangelical intolerant communities. The good news of course is julius out of that. She's found a richer life and richer faith in the process of leaving evangelical church. Her story has tragedy and loss but also amazing grace and redemption. I hope you get as much out of it as julie. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much great to be here to the basic story. Which is the you grew up in an incredibly evangelical family and in the church but you also knew pretty young. You were gay. Yes so i grew up in texas in a conservative evangelical family and i was in high school from two thousand one. The two thousand four which that time it was still illegal to have gay sex in texas and there were not a tons of lgbtq characters on shows and national pride month. And so i found that inter-community where you we heard so much of christian teaching sort of echoing leaders james dobson and jerry falwell saying that abomination and that's you know gay people were for hell and that we were essentially gross. I sort of internalized that teaching. And i initially had a lot of fear around it but i i couldn't really i came out to my family. I came out to my parents when i was sixteen years old Because i sort of started acting out getting in trouble. I think just to deal with my sense of confusion and pain and my parents are both told me that they love me and i remember my mom when i came out to serve like just burst into tears and hugging me and holding me and rocking me. And my dad's saying just remember. Your daddy loves you. No matter what and real sense that. I was loved and at the same time. My mom started googling to figure out what to do with the problem. And the problem. Being that i was gay and she found an organization called living hope ministries in arlington texas and it was a member ministry of exodus. International which at that time was the largest escape organization in the world reclaimed freedom from homosexuality through jesus christ and my mom told me school early the following week to go meet with a baptist minister name ricky chalet. Who worked with a lot of the use. In in sort of these living hope recovery ministries that which was essentially conversion therapy even though they wouldn't have called it that because they weren't licensed professional they were pastoral counselors but anyway so my mom took me to meet with them and that started Would eventually became my ten year experience involved in those ministries seeking healing for my same sex attractions. The way you describe your father's reaction to you coming out really broke my heart because what he said to you was remember. Your father will always love you and that sounds like the ten you should say right but it's the way that he said it. That actually sort of broke that message. I think he knew. I think he knew that where my mom would land and what the answer needed to be and that he tends to be more passive figure in the relationship and already probably knew he was going to allow that to happen and the other thing. That's interesting about your story. It makes it A unique view of the ex gay narrative. I suppose is the you did go to that fellowship or pastoral service however we want to describe it really early in your surf sexual growth right like you. You didn't really have much of a chance to be a lesbian until you were told. That's not what you are or don't do that and you grew. You grew up in this environment of. Don't do that. Yeah it was wild. When ricky i asked me so i started rickyandtina. Start giving my ex gay testimony. When i was seventeen years old for their donor banquet and i was like i don't really think i have an escape testimony like let that be. You know like. I had a couple of crushes and like i'm really curious but i yeah i was just I don't know what to say. It's just completely wild to sort of be taken there at seventeen like when your brain still developing until you're like in your mid twenties and you haven't even gone through. Any sort of normal sexual development have never been able to sort of go through the basic like crush says and we'll hands and kiss and right like notes to each other's lockers like none of that But to be in a group with people who were you know in their forties fifties sixties talking about their abusive relationships. They came out of an sort of all going around. As if we're in like a recovery program and i'm just as kid like So you describe it you know. It is almost like a recovery program. You meet once a week. You don't know each other's last names It isn't like recovery in sort of the guilt and shame part of it. I would say but something struck me every time you talked about the details which include like having to confess your sexual activity of the past week on a scale of one to ten. Yes so so first of all you know. We were expected to confess every everything We would meet with like one on one with ricky the leader for counseling and then we would meet in group context and it was the young guys group Young guys are guys anywhere under the age of twenty seven. Who would go around and and start by giving a number one through tend to rate their week and ten had anal sex at week nine. They had oral sex like on down. The line like five was like some porn with maybe like a webcam and didn't masturbate. Or do anything. You're a one. And like we had to talk about sort of why we had any sort of like fall to masturbation quote unquote fault masturbation that we like why we might have texted in all crush and we would always be encouraged to find associations between like you know your your father reprimanded you that as you're feeling insecure in your masculinity or feminity in that's what made you want to look at porn or reach out to that crush and so it was sort of like a group therapy with like Widely discredited in harmful psychological theories. And the thing that really struck me was how far from reproducing sexuality like these. You know these meetings. This whole program is like sexualizes. Everything you're right. I mean but then like though. I think there was that tension of like definitely heightened feelings of sexual energy but then also you rewarded and given approval an affirmation for you know going many many weeks or months or without masturbating are looking at porn and you are given leadership roles and sort of like extra attention if you sort of played played really well and so i think those were motivating factors and then just the fact that like if you're there if you're in one of those programs chances are your family does not accept you will not accept you if you sort of come out and say that you are queer and you're okay with that and that you want to explore it So you're highly motivated to change or to refresher sexuality even if there are those like undercurrents said are energizing. I think sometimes when you hear a story about someone who Knows that they are gay and continues to live and want to be a part of the evangelical community. I think i mean. I think it's it's i don't mean this in any kind of condescending way but it might be like. Why would you do that. You know like it doesn't make sense if these people are rejecting you. You know you should leave but i think your story is a really amazing. You know window into why that that doesn't necessarily happen Is that tension between yes. They disapprove of your lifestyle they think homosexuality is a sin but there is there is love there. Yeah yeah there's so much there can be so much love and tenderness to even if there's emotional spiritual abuse at the same time. I found that. You know a figure like ricky who you know when you read the book you can see and hear of the ways that he was really manipulative and the way corrected me and many people and inappropriate and and obviously he's living hope is still going so he's doing this work. That is continuing to cause harm and damage in so many people's lives and at the same time. Ricky was at my high school graduation and college graduation. And i ate lunch at ricky's house every sunday afternoon and he would text. You know on a hard day just to check in remind romy me that i was loved and even my mom had a heart attack at one point and he he was the one that drove me to the hospital is see my mom and was there for me to sort of like nurture me after. She said something that was really hurtful. And so it's like. I all of these things sort of course together and i think people underestimate the ways that evangelical can be so zealous and so earnest in wanting to show love and kindness and can really just like shari with affection and sense of belonging and even just the evangelical story in general answers such a powerful questions about meaning and purpose and and community and identity and i fell. I fell wanted there so much of the time. And i found that over over time you know it seemed like that. 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Yes yeah i mean that's their beliefs that essentially we're all born heterosexual and that because of sin and during the world And in our broken s that it's gonna come out in different ways. Their explanation for where same sex attractions comes from is basically repaired. If there be talking points for you know. You didn't connect with their same sex parent the way you were supposed to as a child and you felt a sense of like mystery toward them and that's mysteries Puberty and turns into same sex action. Which is not true like Yuck oh their same sex parent and they end up straight like the same with sexual abuse. They'll say like you know if you had a great relationship with your same sex parent might be that. You were sexually abused as a kid which obviously sexual abuse is going to bring about like probably some issues To work through later in life in one sexuality but a whole lot of straight people more straight people have been sexually abused then gorby and so just There there's sort of explanations are founded at the same time. I came from a background where we didn't believe in science. So when ricky explained all of this to me and told me where my attractions came from. I was like well. I that makes sense to me. Like i don't know why i feel this way but ricky just told you i did so you know. Maybe maybe his programming explanation of sort of like how to be rehabilitated will work maybe this is a subtle distinction but it struck me reading your description of his ministry that it's one thing to talk about homosexuality is a sin which and enter demonizing literally literally. Maybe and that's bad that's terrible but there's also this message of not existing which is a more subtle message but does that get internalised in the same way and a different way it to me. It seems more insidious. Yeah that's really good question. I think it just led to a complete lack. Had no sense of cells Well into my twenties and something continue to work on like were just you. Whoever you felt and believed you were which hard that for me was being gay if that was all ally then an and it was all about just believing the truth that who i was was about like believing internalizing this message and when that message comes out to be problematic or damaging or harmful It's really hard to sort of figure out who you actually are. Then the whole language around this stuff is fascinating another thing that pops out is strugglers. They call that's their name for people who want to convert. I don't even. I don't know name i would use call them. Whatever they want to be called right but This emphasis on struggle like it. It's sort of. Do you understand how it might be odd for someone on the outside to pure struggler strugglers struggler. Yeah it's all it's like. Wow n- Basically there was a whole culture right and we adapted vocabulary beliefs culture. They refer referred to as strugglers because we struggled with same sex attractions. So we weren't allowed to say that we were gay or bisexual or queer or whatever That would be seen as like an identity that we were choosing to sorta identity label. We were choosing that was rooted in san so the emphasis was really on like this war in this battle against our same sex attractions which ended up the way that was manifest in our lives is that we felt like we were at war with ourselves and for many of us it was a battle against our own bodies because he's sires obviously our emotional in An physical and so many of us ended up really struggling with things like self harm a body image eating disorders sexual addiction in sort of like Destructive patterns around that. And that's that's like you wouldn't think oh we're just referring to people as strugglers struggle with same sex attraction of people don't often make the connection To the implications of that in terms of making someone putting someone to having someone go to war with bodies let's move on to exodus international because it has become kind of infamous You intersect with them in your late. Teens amount right. Yes so exodus was sort of umbrella. Organization with over one hundred fifty member ministries like living hope operating under it and all those ministries would come to exodus for a big annual conference every summer. And i started going to those conferences with ricky and living. Hope when i was seventeen and you became a speaker on the circuit like this is another place. Where maybe it's important to see the structure that kept you a mashed right like you had a place here like this was a role for you and you were saying earlier like you didn't really know who you were. Yeah so like. I said ricky asked me to give my ex gay testimony when i was seventeen for their donor banquet and then you know when that was like pretty well received a sort of took me on the road with and whenever he would give talks at churches or seminaries are colleges. He would have me come. Give my testimony which is like a sort of a conversion story right before he would talk and he kind of coached me through that so it may serve incorporate a lot of his talking points into my story to sort of illustrate shirt his theoretical ideas and so Exodus eventually heard me speak and asked me to give my testimony at their conference. When i was twenty five years old and after giving my testimony that conference they asked me to start. Giving testimony insert same thing using a story illustrate their points On on tour with them Which was like six to eight times over. The course of a year as i keep saying that people may have heard exit international because it wound up What's the right word. Exploding it's one of its leaders named announced it and it seems when i hear the words i think bad you know that's like why would anyone associate themselves with this and even when exits came into your life. It was there. Were still some there. Started to be tension around the idea of. How do we do as christians or as evangelical christians about the gays. Yeah yeah. I mean my story came to like i. My life has been lived at an interesting time in terms of the evangelical response to people. Because it you know it's just been in twenty thirteen exodus. Shutdown that evangelical were starting to wait. Can you maybe not like changed like as becoming straight. Maybe not the answer. And so they're coming up with other ideas or online lifelong celibacy and things like that but Yeah i mean essentially it it. It shut down because there was A like the ada and all like credited sort of medical association's said that the practice a conversion therapy which is essentially what these ministries are doing. They said it's harmful and damaging it doesn't work and so Between that and then seeing just the damage that it was causing in so many people's lives that many people like alan chambers of president at that time knew and loved By the time. 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We get to a point where exodus international disbands and that appears probably to the outside world like a huge step forward. Oh they're going to let gay people be gay but it's just. It became a different kind of box. From what i see in your story It almost to me seems like they simply flipped to considering their treatment of lgbtq people. It's almost like we have to look okay about this. Like people can't think we're we're doing wrong but we're still not thinking about them as people. Yeah i think sort of mainstream evangelical 's realize that the ex game narrative was harmful and probably didn't work and it certainly was mocks and looked down upon by the broader culture and even a lot of just younger Evangelical christians in general and so it seemed to me like a lot of jobs are starting to think. Okay well if they can't change. And if queer people can't become straight and sort of live normal heterosexual lives as they would say. Then what's the next option and there was a pretty large group of people that were starting to say you know people could identify as gay and Sort of yet be honest about our nation but we had to commit to lifelong single. Isn't selasih and still hold. Traditional views of marriage Saying that you know same sex. Sex is not permissible and just conservative. Queer people who are sell that i guess was the next time you become someone who can express this stuff for them because it starts to seem like the conservative joe communities sees The treatment of lgbtq people as pr problem. And you're kind of the solution to their pr problem. Yeah i was one of a unit of by handful of unicorn gays right like there's a small number of people that do believe that being as simple and so i you have to remember. I was still at this point. It's twenty seven years old at just come out of all this ex gay stuff. I'm still in a community. That exclusively believes being gay sinful wrong and bad and it was like it was almost like i was progressive. Just to be able to say that i was gay. It was like that in itself was like Just so wild. And out there in these communities. And i found that a lot of evangelical leaders Fair presents a christian colleges pastors of megachurches. All these people were starting to look to people like me for answers on what to do with sort of what they would have called the lgbtq problem and writings on the wall. That point that You know public opinion was rapidly shifting toward acceptance of lgbt people. They knew the same sex marriage would be the law of the land and they had to figure out some sort of strategy so that they could continue to you know hall to their beliefs and not necessarily engage with lgbt people in ways that might make them feel complicit in a simple lifestyle so they turn to people like me. Conservative conserve People who i guess like would essentially. Yeah that's a good way to put a complicated thing People like me because we could sort of shield them from accusations of homophobia because they could say hey if we will accept you julie who's gay Who sort of can live in two are. Are statements of faith are statements of belief about marriage than we're not discriminating against a whole class of people were just sort of you know hiring or offering services to people who align with our religious teaching well. There's even i was speaking at a conference of prominent evangelical conference at one point and he was talking with me about my talk before i went any set at one point. You know he was. I was saying. Hey i just really want to help people understand. We didn't choose to be gay. We can't change it on whether to be more compassionate and that sort of like i was speaking and he said you know i really need you. Though to just reemphasize like orthodox historic christian teaching the import a holding onto traditional views of marriage and essentially. What he ended up saying was like. I can't say those things. Because i'm a white straight white man and i'm going to sound like a bigot. And he said it has more power coming from you. It's a funny way to spell still Homophobic just happened to be coming from a gay person but actually another thing that people outside this culture might have a hard time. Understanding is it. You weren't being disingenuous when you were speaking about these things. No i really wasn't. I felt like you know. I would talk. I would. let's say. I gave a thirty minute. Talk for twenty eight of those minutes sharing this vision. I'm just short of encouraging. These people like winning largely straight evangelical audiences to understand what is like to grow up a queer person in their communities and trying to help them. You know imagining like. I want them to be more compassionate to their kid when their kid comes out or with their neighbor and so i'm trying to encourage compassion and repentance for their historical You know the churches violence against people throughout our history and yeah within that talk. I would say that i was personally. Committed to lifelong celibacy in that was sort of what what i understood to be the way to honor god with my life and my sexuality but that was just really a It was it was implicit. It wasn't like my message was focused on the family and so it didn't vote dishonest to me. Do you mind if we talk about celibacy. Yeah that's an old yeah. You don't mind. Let's do it because that's another thing that i think might be tough for some people. that You would willingly do this that you would find. Try to find this gray area where you could. I assume that's what this was a function of right that you could be a part of the community that you've been a part of for your entire life. That was the foundation of the way that you looked at the world and also you needed to be able to say you were gay to know that and be able to say it and to commit to celibacy was the only option over sure. It was the only option. And i was still only barely allowed to stay like you. See when you read my book. Discrimination i faced as a celibate lesbian and these institutions. But i think for me At first i was just always so. I had so much shame all throughout these years i felt like almost free full that people that even jello goals especially those in leadership with like let me stick around and it was just like wow like how lucky am i that even though told them i'm gay They still you know. Aren't out rejecting the outright. And they don't think i'm totally disgusting. And there was this real sense of light can't just desperation for belonging in these communities and at the same time like being in a position as a speaker at evangelical conferences that never really brought in openly gay people before talk and getting to work at a university as one of the first openly gay chaplains and evangelical college like. I did kind of feel like wow. I'm able to do some good here. And so even if i'm not getting to sort of express my sexuality inexperience any sort of love and romance in the way that i deeply desire to i am able to like serve an important role for really really vulnerable people in these communities and i guess i found enough meaning that to make it worth it. Did your choice to celebrate. Seem like a holy choice for you. Did you feel like this was something that god wanted from you. I think i was so shutdown in so fragmented that that wasn't even something. I was really considering like i wouldn't i wouldn't allow myself to entertain the possibility that i could be in a same sex relationship and god the light in that and got the light in a eventually. Because i think. I'm just like i don't know i was a pretty pathetic. And so when other people around me would end up sort of leaving these ideas behind in in deciding like into place of leaving god really does the light in their sexuality and relationships and they would with the sex and fall in love and you know just sort of live out like normal lives of loving connection I would feel happy for them. And i would feel the sense of delight in rejoicing but it felt way too scary to allow like to feel that for myself. It was all about survival. I simply could not express my sexuality and end belong in my family. You know and only communities i had ever really known in the only places i had ever experienced any sort of laws. So you're living very fraught life at this point you're being asked to do. Enormous emotional labor without the comfort and solace of a loving relationship with another woman right and or with anyone. You reached a breaking point. Tell us about that he. I was on staff at wheaton college outside of chicago. It's one of the large. Most prominent evangelical colleges in the country. And i was sort of in a weird role of working with a queer students in the chaplain's office working sort of With queer students and overseeing a support group for them and Also dealing with a lot of interaction with the president of the college in the provost were making it easy they would pass on sort of like letters from constituents saying would you let a somebody who struggles with head feely a- work in your college and they would send this to me and i'm like what am i supposed to do with this email. Like and sort of you know there's a lot of censoring and they asked me to write a statement of faith Explaining why for myself as gay and ultimately the president the provost were involved in editing. My statement of faith They were trying to say that. You know i was open. Got healing me. And i'd be able to marry a man and i was like i'm not like that'd be lying and we just went back and forth and back and forth like i came to to feel like there's these vulnerable queer students were also so resilient and so amazing and they wake up every day at this university where they know they're not wanted and they show up anyway and had students come and you know in coming out in my office said One student started breaking out in hives. And he's got is red spots falling all his neck because he is telling somebody this for the first time they see this anguish in so many of these students who are who are surviving. This institution that's constantly More worried about their image and self protection than the most vulnerable. And as i saw that weekend we go out and in these meetings and in private round table discussions the the the consistent choice to protect themselves at the expense of the most vulnerable. I got to win. When i absolutely could not participate in that system and i couldn't i couldn't be complicit in something that i came to see is so harmful for the people that i really believe Jesus would would treasure so deeply and hold so so so dearly. And so i got to a point where i just started writing and writing and writing at the end of my first school year at wheaton college in the chaplain's office and sort of came out with the way that my views have shifted on this and the way that ultimately as a result of bearing witness to all the all the different dynamics around this conversation that theology shifted and then i came to believe that the right has so response to lg people was the to celebrate our love to celebrate To say that. God the lights and our bodies in our love and our desires in our relationships on our sex marriages. It's interesting and this comes up in the book. But when i refer to the to the time that you were having to bear the tension of being a mascot i hope is not to like again it. I want what i wanna do. Is integrate the people that did this to to be the spokesman of this hateful. So you having to do this you know. Be the voice of this thing that that was hurtful and then also not have The kind of emotional care and support. And fullness of being an even being able to fill to feel as though god loved you in in fullness right and to me like that is what would be would lead to a breaking point and what you described is the way you felt about other people did. That's what led to your breaking point that you saw the way the students were being treated. Yeah it was because i. I had grown up with theology in teaching from conservative christians. That said were supposed to died ourselves every day and order to live to christ. And we're supposed to crucifiers flesh. And i was willing to carry my cross as they would say you know unto death and so many moments when i was like you know i would just go home to my empty basement apartment and thank like i i just i want somebody to see me as a human being and i want to stop sort of feeling torn by this leg debate. Almost it's sport that evangelical are in between progressive conservatives. And i just want to see my humanity and there that that longing was deep in real but it was ultimately. I think i would have like. I said carried my cross until death hadn't been for seeing that it actually causes death in the lives of other people who i knew were so special and i just. How can you not be moved by that. So when were you able to put down your cross. When did you accept this gift of love. And fullness of acceptance. From god for yourself. Well i think know. When i shared that my views changed and i sort of saw it all laid out there i. It wasn't long before i was like clearly. I need to make some sort of connection between the idea that god would want this for other people and delight another people in like maybe god with delight in me do and i ended understood intellectually. I didn't think that i would date for awhile. Because like i think i just need like a hot second to recover here and working in restaurants trying to pay the bills and just trying to sort of. Yeah find my footing. But i i met my now. Wife amanda a few months later and she was just so hot in charming and generous. In-kind like she's just as magnetic amazing warm delightful. Human being. And i was like i can't just meet somebody like amanda height and be like. Hey can you wait a few years whether like go and get my shit together. You know like. I figure these things out in this kind of relationship with a woman is amazing and soft and and thought all amanda well so i'm actually also from texas also raised by people who were raised in a baptist church so i get uncomfortable talking about sex but i love the way you talk about getting comfortable with sex yourself. Yeah i mean that. Amanda was such a sport about it because amanda for the last in your life and she also really understood like the context that i was coming out of and so she wanted to take things slowly and just to really sort of i guess. Let me set the pace for things and so we started leg. I was so nervous. The kiss i hadn't kill anybody in like seven years. I remember texting my friend. Steve steve what have i don't know what to do with my tongue like services like a like a teenager and we start kind megan and stuff. They still came from this background. That was period culture. Like sexist bad bodies or bad and so we started engaging what we call not sex for you know a like for a little while to just get so i could get used to it all and my body and so that my body could be sort of brought along in the process. And not have to disassociate from what used to be right or what i used to believe and then i could do it in a way that fell integrated and And then that didn't take that long so it is almost as if and correct me if i'm wrong. It is the coming to terms with your sexuality. Your body the fact that you believe that god accepts your body is a delight to him your sex life as a to him or god take the gender at leads to a complete re-examination of everything. Yes it really did. I think it was also getting more distance from evangelical communities and just kind of seeing the way that those were often maybe even unintentionally in many communities authoritarian instructor and there was a sense of leaders having You know the objective truth and so everything that i believed about the world. Why were here. The treated colleague what i was supposed to do with my mornings. All of these things were sort of dictated me through this evangelical context which they would have said it was like the bible was our our source of truth but the bible can be interpreted in thousands of different ways and so it was really leaders in our communities are pastors theologians that we sort of gave credibility to were were were shaping and forming our ideas about the world so once once they started losing credibility to me. Once i saw wrong they were about. Lgbtq people about The way that that white evangelical is growing up with talk about black christians and interracial relationships often and black pastors like When i especially once they sort of got behind. Donald trump and i was able to accuracy. And how so many people that rejected me. My friends were enthusiastically enamored by donald trump. And i just started to feel like it was you know. shoveled whether or not it was a call with some coltish things at play that once i was far enough away i started to to really have to reconstruct a sense of truth. How do we know where we find. Meaning and overall just a moral framework that evangelical was provided for me for the first three decades of my life. What i really love was this passage where you talk about what it feels like. When you believe in god but aren't sure about what to do with your life. Because i went through a very similar situation. Right like bottoming out coming to believe. Now what the fuck do i do. it was like it was literally you right. I wake up. Make myself sip coffee and think to myself. What should i do this tuesday and you would you. You're thinking what. Would god want me to do like that small level and i completely identify and then being like wait a minute. How do i know what. God's voices i thought god what telling me to do. Xyz you know what it. That's such a beautiful way of describing it to me to bring it down to the to the quotidian question of what does god want from me. I really want to be good and i. I don't mean that in a way to feel good about myself like i want to do. What's right. I wanna be a force for good in the world and i want to bring about you know. I don't know more gentleness and something redemptive and when when evangelical ism sort of like once was disillusioned by the story that they told about how. I could be a part of something like that. It i think i just became discouraged and fearful that any other story i found was maybe made up to and that maybe you know maybe i could know some things and it couldn't have access to the the truth through the right answers and it was. I mean it will be a lifelong process. But i think like it's really hard to come to terms with when at one point you thought you knew at all i think i the way i see. My faith now is more where i used to say. I believe i now say things more. Like i hope and hope is leaves a lot more room for doubt and my fate definitely just has a lot more room for mystery. What hope is still an active choice to try to sort of like put ourselves in the way of of goodness and beauty in life to say that you can't outside of faith structure but we have to find some way of aligning ourselves with I don't know a broader sense of purpose and especially those of us who want to embody forgiveness and radical love. It's hard to just muster that up on her own. And so i find that faith tradition sort of give me language that i might not naturally come up with on a given tuesday about how to love. People who are difficult allows thank you so much for joining us julie. Thanks so much for chatting. This has been really really really wonderful. And that is it for the show. This show is production of crooked media. And you're probably hearing it right around thanksgiving so i wanna to take some time and give thanks. I am grateful for our producer alison her. Who's made this show sound. Literally one hundred percent better and whose given so much of herself to it suggestions and ideas. I am grateful for our regular engineer. Karen crawley who has so many clients but makes room for this show and for me and her schedule and her life. I'm grateful for lily alexandrov. Who became my intern years ago. And i just never let her quit. She's been the person who lets me know when the show needs a content warning and she's one of the people who make sure the show lives up to our ideals of hearing from people that aren't just straight white man. I'm grateful for our newer intern. Who probably doesn't realize what she's in for. She is a jolt of energy and ideas. Even when i'm feeling burned out. 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By Challenging Evangelicals, She Changed Them

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30:18 min | 1 year ago

By Challenging Evangelicals, She Changed Them

"Hey It's Michael all this week. The daily is revisiting. Our favorite episodes of the year listening back and then hearing what's happened since they first ran. Today we turn to the story of Rachel held Evans. It's Tuesday December twenty fourth from the New York Times. I'm Michael Barr. This is the daily today in a brief but prolific career. A young writer asked whether Evangelical Christianity could change inducer. She changed her. My colleague Natalie. Kickoff speaks to religion reporter Elizabeth Diets about the legacy of Rachel held Evans. It's Monday June third. It's always interesting to me as the religion in reporter for the New York Times which spiritual figures breakout into the mainstream. And I think the last time I wrote in obituary was for Billy Graham on the word redemption means to buy back. Why do you need to be bought back? Because the Bible says you're the slave of sin he he was this giant of evangelical culture. He died at ninety nine and defined generations evangelical culture. You must make a choice choice tonight. Are you going to continue down the broad road that leads to destruction or will you change and go the narrow road that leads to eternal life this. This is the choice that only you can make asking one question about. Your faith will undoubtedly lead to another Rachel. Rachel held Evans was the thirty seven year. Old writer changing your mind about one idea means you will likely scrutinize others. Who didn't always even seem totally blue shirt that she was a Christian and allowing yourself to have doubts about Christianity or about your present version of Christianity? Put your sense of safety security security certainty at risk and yet it is absolutely one hundred percent worth it she almost single. Oh handedly brought together in entirely new kind of community that is defining Christianity for the next generation because living living in faith tried tested hard. One faith is so much better than living in fear. My name is Roselle Day White. My Name is William so I am Julie Rogers I live in Washington. DC with my life and our two cats. When I first encountered Rachel and her work I had just gone through a divorce? I was still in conversion therapy trying to become straight. She gave me permission to trust the spirit inside of me that was leading me to come out as gay was the same spirit inside of me. That was trying to follow God as I understood got it that point matrons become meaningful I think so many because at some point she began to realize what what I've been told but I've been told to believe but I've been told to think isn't all there is and in fact sometimes what we've been told to think told believe has been hurting people. So how did we get here. When does does the world meet Rachel held Evans? I started having questions about my faith when I was in college as a Christian college during that time the US. I invaded Afghanistan. We got involved in Iraq and I sort of became more aware of world events. And how the circumstances of one's birth affect their their entire life and so I start having questions about what that meant when so many people in the world either never had any exposure to Christianity where that exposure has been limited and so I think the book that really started to put her on. The map was a year of Biblical womanhood. She committed to spend one whole year living exactly exactly as if she followed all of the rules for women in the Bible Right. There's a famous passage in the Bible proverbs. Thirty one minutes. And it's this long description of all of these things that make a wonderful woman one of those verses. Her husband is respected at the city gate so she made the sign Dan. Dan is her husband and she made the sign that said Dan is awesome and held it up and side of the the town's entrance amazing using certainly don't recommend any other woman try this You know part of the point of doing this show that none of us are actually practicing biblical womanhood and we need to be more careful with how we treat the word Biblical this. We kind of throw that around and stick it in front of other looted words and to try and bolster our position on something and that. That's not only disrespectful respectful to women. It's also disrespectful to the Bible. I don't think it's meant to be read that way reduced to this adjective this idea of challenging reading the Bible Awesome Literal Document. It's really provocative because the whole evangelical system for so long had been about Biblical local literal asylum. When you had to understand the Bible exactly for the words that it's sad literally? I think what often makes someone so powerful as when when they start to actually name something that a lot of people feel yeah and she was writing at the same time that social media was really taking off off. I think a lot of women were asking these questions and struggling with these issues what I love about the Internet would have love about logging. It gives platforms to people who wouldn't otherwise otherwise have them particularly in Russian culture at the church I was raised in. I couldn't even pass offering play much less teaches Sunday school class or speak in front the congregation and so blogging gave me of waste and even localism. I would never have because I'm a woman. She broke down the access barrier of who could be asking questions about what it meant to be a Christian and who got to talk about what those answers might I be. And how was she received by the larger Evangelical Christian world. Well I think it I was a bit of a curiosity. You told me you have doubts. Yes what do you doubt. Oh my goodness where to start. I mean most a lot of this is really hard to believe and oftentimes I think all his resurrection stuff. We made it up because we're afraid of death breath and this solves that problem than I doubt when I see people who claim to be Christians not behaving like Christ. I doubt the Maury learn about science and our place in the universe. I wonder where does got fit into all of this. So my doubts are pretty consistent. Part of my faith should speak at churches and most of the time she was being interviewed by men often told you're losing faith. Just pray more. Just read your Bible more. That'll fix it at the same time. Other people were really flocking to her. There's so many of us that have been disconnected from the church because the church has been so black or white Kristin who thought you know I've been told my entire life that women can't lead and I wonder if Christianity are something else to say I think a lot of these people their struggles were the same right. It's the same kinds of doubts and questions in her. They found on this safe place to actually think through some of those. I still doubt I still wake up some mornings unconvinced that the god I worshiped chipped in Church on Sunday even exists and I don't want to glorify that experience because sometimes it sucks sometimes. It's really lonely and really the hard and really scary but I know for a fact. It's better than the alternative A to tell you I said I've been going through an evolution on this issue I've always been adamant that. Gay and Lesbian mm-hmm Americans should be treated fairly and equal. It's funny to think about now. But even President Obama then was just kind of getting to the point where he he was openly supporting gay marriage. I hesitated on gay marriage a in part because I thought civil unions would be sufficient. Agile Cole where all the division was there but it was much more under the surface because evangelical teaching has long been that homosexuality is a sin and that comes I'm from long standing interpretation of Biblical passages her just like to start by saying thank you to everybody for coming tonight. I really appreciate it in the midst of all of this this Rachel decides to question some of what she'd been taught to believe about it. The Bible is not opposed to the acceptance of Gay Christians. It's in two thousand twelve. There's this guy named Matthew Vines. Being different is no crime and he put a video up on Youtube. uh-huh being gay is not a sin. You see him in front of a church and he is speaking and he is giving this argument. That was pretty revolutionary at the time. I'm for gay. Person To desire and pursue love and marriage and family is no more selfish or sinful than when a straight person desires wires and pursues the very same things you can be gay and be a Christian and Rachel wasn't immediately on board but she listened in September two two thousand thirteen. She did a blog post about that talk that I had given and was using it as a way to open up the conversation nations among her the readers on her blog about the Bible and same sex relationships and really start presenting and affirming case for understanding same sex relationship Asian ship from a biblical standpoint and the way that she was approaching it was not again by saying this is what I think but rather these arguments are worth considering. Let's talk through them but think through them. He wasn't an academic or biblical scholar or someone famous but she was just interested in what he had to say she she puts this idea out there like well you know evangelicals maybe we were wrong about homosexuality and so she and this online community the she is building are working through these questions together and this conversation does not seem like it's necessarily going to be the easiest one one for the evangelical establishment to stomach yet. Kind of change was such a threat or month after that she was on on the receiving end of a lot of mocking abusive commentary. The idea for her of changing her mind about homosexuality homosexuality not being sin and that's enough to cause people to say she's a heretic and yet in the midst of all of that you know. It's so scary to leave behind a really conservative faith community even if it's a sort of toxic community if you're if you don't have somewhere else to go her online platform in community mean that's Jus- is growing thrall this and it's getting stronger and I feel like Rachel bills up other places and even create a movement that we could be a part of them belong to That that sort of made it much easier to fully come out of the closet. If I had not come across those people I think I likely would have stayed eight in conservative evangelical communities a lot longer maybe even tried to marry a man and just see if I could make it work or that might have become so desperate and I'm bearable that I would've just left the church altogether. The next really a big issue for her around race she would talk about race or write about things around people on the margins. Whether it be racially or identity wise orientation around this time Trayvon Martin had been shot right and killed and George Zimmerman the man who had shot him. He was acquitted her piece on her blog about Trayvon trayvon Martin and the verdict around Complicity doubt and her role as a white woman really really spoke to me. So you have this this moment when the loudest voices in the more mainstream evangelical culture white men speaking out quite frankly. I think it's more of a problem than a skin problem album and what I hear people scream black lives matter. I'm thinking. Of course they do but all launched matter. Rachel did the opposite here. Racial starts is to give up this platform that she had created using her platform for a black woman who speaks about racial justice using her platform for a native have woman indigenous woman who's calling out right for indigenous people if she did that all the time. She starts promoting black writers and speakers. I I I don't know that I had any lights. Stay under the readers out of my friends and family. Before you'll have evidence came along. Rachel introduced me to her literary agent. She introduced me to her speaking agent. She started a conference called Y Christian and allowed me need to be one of the first secrets conference. Do you not only use her social platform. She then created to hold events and then brought us to be speaker that that we were are different races. Different sexualities we were. We were just different so different. She had this rare sense for when She needed to be the one to take a step back and to listen instead of speaking I so seeing her hearing her fight with us in alongside it was just really powerful so through all of this all of this criticism backlash to a certain extent to she ever get to a breaking point. Why don't off had called a breaking point but she does join the Episcopal Church In about out twenty fourteen and ms very public about why. She's formerly leaving Evangelical Church. You know for all of my differences with Evangelical Ism. I still love of that community and Silvery Metro part of that community and and I didn't get the sense. It was the wholesale rejection. It was more of a recognition Nisshin of the kinds of fights that she did and didn't WanNa have anymore and what kind of church she was able to call home. It's her work to say. Although there are rotten roots in our practices around Christianity. We may not have to throw the whole thing out Support for this podcast and the following message come from Uber. Uber is committed to safety and to continuously raising the bar to help make safer journeys for everyone. For starters. All drivers are background checked. Before the first ride 'em unscreened on an ongoing basis and now uber has introduced a brand new safety feature called right check. which can detect trip goes unusually off course and check in to provide support support to learn more about Uber's commitment to safety visit Uber Dot com slash safety? Hi I'm Caitlyn Dickerson. I cover immigration for the New York Times and one person I remember interviewing interviewing was a mother named Cindy Twenty five years old from Hunter S. and her eight year old son Justin when I interviewed her she was still in federal detention center but she burst into the room with kind of a big smile on her face I remember. She looked even a little younger than she is to work glasses. It's getting jeans on. She and her son were about to be released. I but when I asked her about what they had been over the last several months her face completely changed she started to explain to me how they had been separated for fifty days win. Wind Border Patrol agents took her away from Justin. It was almost as if they took his voice. He went from being a young and bubbly loud kid to someone who rarely rarely ever spoke above a whisper. She's one of several moms who I profiled and you can find a lot of this kind of journalism in the New York Times so if you'd like to support it you can go to our website it's ny times dot com slash. Subscribe fast forward two years. You have the twenty sixteen election. I'm wondering wondering what her take on. The candidacy of Donald Trump is especially given. How many questions were being asked around whether Yvonne jellicoe endorse? This person This candidate right while two thousand sixteen was hit at all crossroads for Evangelicals in America with Donald Trump's candidacy evangelicals have long voted for candidates who oppose abortion rights rates and then candidate. Donald Trump was promising to advance those causes and really significant ways. You know in the middle of this Rachel comes forward and says look. I am pro-life but this is why I'm GonNa vote for Hillary Clinton and she ended up writing this article about how she was this going to support Hillary Clinton even though she was still holding onto her pro-life views so in the article she said even though I think abortion it is morally wrong in most cases and support more legal restrictions around it. I often vote for pro-choice candidates when I think their policies will do the most was to address the health and economic concerns Dr Women to get abortions in the first place for me. It's not just about being pro birth. It's about being pro life. So when does Rachel get sick. So on Palm Sunday in the middle of April Rachel sends out a tweet and she says a few are the praying type. I'm in the hospital with a flu and you. Ti Combo. And I'm having a severe allergic reaction reaction to the antibiotics and you know she jokes. I'M GONNA miss game of thrones And things escalated from there in her brain began having these seizures and they just didn't stop and so she's in the ICU. And doctors put her in in a medically induced coma At some points the news trickles out on social media and everyone organizes is up prayer campaign for her with this Hashtag pray for our H. E. And you started to see this flood of prayers from All sorts of people many of whom had never ever met each other in person. But were all part of Rachel's church you know on her social media feed and then on May fourth came the news that all of the sudden she had experienced sudden and extreme extreme changes to her vitals and her brain was swelling and doctors took emergency action to stabilize her but the swelling just caused severe damage and ultimately was not survivable. So Rachel died early Saturday morning. May I twenty nineteen for me personally. There's no way it feels like I've lost a champion so let alone in the world. Because she was in it. I'm sorry it's really hard. Once she dies. It's instantaneous. I mean the outpouring of grief across across the world. It wasn't just people who might have considered themselves Rachel fans it was people that she had sparred with evangelical men who she'd taken to task were remembering how grateful they were to her for her authenticity city. She required a respond. Her work and her life demanded a response from people. Who didn't agree didn't stop? That went on for days. People trying to make sense of how someone so loved and so young just died in the middle of this dynamic work that she was doing so I have to ask. Rachel built this community and now she's gone. What happens while you might think that when someone once so central to a community dies that the whole project might disintegrate but Rachel Evolution gave all of us the fearlessness to evolve to and because you had created such community in unity. We knew that we didn't have to evolve alone. She walked with a if no one else would she would walk with that. Said the folks are shutting out of the Church today. Be Leading it tomorrow. That's how the spirit works futures in the margin. I hope that we will. Oh and by her legacy of freedom because she said so many of us free I think the movement that she's built will will only grow because she was here long enough and she was working long enough in order to make changes. I don't think we'll be able to be undone I I really don't. The last thing that her readers heard from her was was this blog. Post that she wrote for lent and I'll read it. She said it strikes me today that the liturgy of Ash Wednesday teaches something that nearly everyone can agree on whether you are part of a church or not whether you believe today or you doubt whether you are Christian or an atheist or agnostic. You know this truth deep in your bones remember that you are dust and to dust you will return. Death is a part of life. My prayer for you. This season is that you make time to celebrate that reality and to agreed that reality and that you know you are not alone off. I keep thinking about the women. He showed up at the Tomb on Easter morning. On the days that I believe the story I'm struck by the fact that they showed up with burials spices. They showed up ready to walk through the rituals of grief and say goodbye to their friend. That was women's work in those days tending to those vulnerable things but it's only intending to the vulnerable things that we can expect to witness a miracle. I can't promise you resurrection but I can promised companionship. I can promise you friends for the journey. I can I promise you fellow travelers to help you. Carry those burials spices. As we tend to the vulnerable things together may the God of every season season the god of survival and if not survival than death and resurrection bless preserve. And keep you now and forever. I'm in the back hi. I'm John Green novelist and co-founder of log brothers for more than a decade. My family has supported a unique organization called partners in health. Their mission is to bring quality healthcare to the most vulnerable and impoverished communities around the world. Are Families recently given our full commitment to help fight the maternal no mortality crisis in Sierra Leone because Pih understands complex problems require long term commitment visit Ph dot org slash n. Y Not to learn how you can be part of the cure. Hey Dan it's Michael Barbaro. How're you you know? All right buddy. I'm all right how are you. I'm okay I'm I'm glad to hear that a few days ago I called Rachel's husband Dan Evans and I asked him. What's happened to the community that his wife created? Every every time I post to her social media people still engage engage with it almost as if it's still her they say thank you. Some people engage with it. Knowing that it's me being a writer. I guess that's just part of it. Where your your words get to live on? I noticed a few days ago that there was a post getting traction on her website and it was her a post from two thousand. Fourteen called twenty-six ideas for advent. Can you describe it. Let me you know Rachel just better than I do When I wake up on Christmas morning how will I be different? How do I hope? The meditations and practices of the season will shape me. How can I prepare myself my home and my family for the arrival of Jesus? In a way that nurtures a spirit of anticipation and hope. Have I left enough space. Ace The busy holiday season to pay attention to listen to wait and to be surprised. What does it mean to listen to the prophets in this this season not just the Prophets of old but the Prophets of today who is crying out for justice and peace from the margins? And what will I do into heat their calls. So they the twenty-six ideas for advent post once. I saw that people were searching for I re posted that to her facebook page After posting that hundreds of comments and some of them sympathy in some of them thankfulness ten. What does all of this Engagement with Rachel's work even after her death. What does that tell you? It tells me there's a lot of pain in the world. Actually and her voice was needed needed by a lot of people but unthankful vet all the words that she has written still exist exist. I kinda I find hope. In knowing that there are people not yet born but still may read her words. Thank you Dan. I really appreciate you speaking with us. Thank you for having me and have a happy holiday. America's myths happy holidays. Uh I have a letter here that I just wanted to read before I stop recording. It says it says Rachel deeply impacted my spiritual journey at a very dark time in my life after our church rejected are gay daughter. She helped me find hope again. Please know that there are thousands of us who loved Rachel. 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"Tv wine episode. Three hundred seventy five. Hello and welcome to c. v. ruined episode three hundred and seventy five for the week of january ten. Hello fans. it's been a long time. Center shannon step zimmer. Last episode was november four. And now we're about two months in a couple of days since that day every intention of reporting a million times over the last two months but thailand just wasn't ranked and pretty much. The majority of december was watching hallmark. Movie sweating any time another banks as per us in our household we move forward and now there are at least a few more shows claim. Back on the aerosol. Have something to say about them. Guesses again sponsored by bass. David michael don and lisa. Thank you for being a month. Sponsors wayne and mark big one dollar a month patrons greatly appreciated even though he podcast has become very very erratic. I will actually release it. Thank you for your endings part. You can sign up at nutrient dot com slash t rewind on the homepage and on the show notes today on friday night which is really weird open. It'd be able to get this out by the end of the weekend. So i can say it's still too weak at the ten here on tv. Rewind your bring earth thoughts and last week's television. We'll take a pause for the news rewind the last weekend fast forward to next week at. I take a pause for the news. And oh my goodness well known podcast for two months. The new is just is overwhelming. Luckily for me. I have been taking snippets from my feely every week and clean and to know it's spite have to be around by you. Know two months worth of links to look. Let's begin been very long. New section renewables is a whole boatload of them. The umbrella academy for a season three on netflix. That would make me extremely happy. I love that show very much. Emily in paris for season. Two enough books. I have not seen that. I've heard good things about it. L'aigle masters for season two on fox space force for season two net flicks and because season one was so very much pan. Surprise me that they renewed it but they say that they're going to be over undergoing a revamp on the show so fleet having sex so bad woke for season. Two on hulu. I've heard good things about vallon avenue not seen that when he had a huge fan of an actor who leaves that show from new girl the expanse season six which will be their final citizen on amazon. The masked singer for season five on fox. That's kind of a no brainer especially in these kobe times. You know having a show with mass make sense. Fear the walking dead for season seven am amc feel good for season two net flicks redraw to be their final season for all mankind for season three and apple tv plus industry for a season. Two on hbo. It's always sunny in philadelphia for four seasons on affects ex leading it through season. Eighteen making it the longest running comedy in tv history above bat. Wow the handmaid's tale for season five on hulu and that's even before season. Four is even aired transplant for season two. Nbc the kelly clarkson show syndicated through two thousand twenty three. Tbs has also renewed full-frontal with samantha. B for season six which will debut next wednesday the thirteenth at ten thirty nine thirty central. And oh my goodness there couldn't be a better time for her show to come back because she's got a lot that she has the talk about apple. Tv plus has given servant and early season three renewal ahead of the second season premiere which will be next friday the fifteenth ap bio for season four on peacock virgin river for season three i net flicks lock and key. First season three on netflix. That one makes very happy. I'm a huge fan of that. Shell and i discovered it during govan jury. That's one of the shows that i binged press really good. The flight attendant versus to hbo maks jaipur. Good things about them. Happy that kaley cuoco is still having good work to do. As an actress in producer and the wild for season two on amazon thous- long whisk guys. Unfortunately a list of cancellations is even is long too but not as long as that connecting after one season on nbc and peacock that was that was a show that came on during covid and it was pretty much the group of friends that was getting together on zoom every week to talk about their lives in living in through covid and i liked the concept of it and i actually liked a couple of the people that were on it. You know as the characters that were in it. It was an especially funny and it was just like really real. Life like thirties is things we deal with anyway. And now it's on tv the same thing in you know a televised version of it tech understand. Why didn't catch on. I was happy to characters that i was pulling for actually got together ready and so that's all they really matter to me. Also castlerock has been canceled after two seasons on hulu which is not good news for two of my friends who podcast about it. So sorry about that jeff and wayne had too bad for you. Hopefully you can find other show to get connected to and podcast bone the future interrogation after one season on. Cbs l. access the outsider after one season on hbo. The order after two seasons on netflix x one day at a time after three seasons not books and a half a season on pop and they've they've said that exhausted all options for the show at this point. It's just gonna be over. And actually the showrunner released some of the upcoming episodes that they were going to write or they had written. And i'm disad. We won't get to see them really sad about that. You know so excited when it got to be back on tv. I'm bob and then kobe. Shut it down after six episodes or something and she's made me sad. I love that show so much. Hopefully those actors go on to great things. Individually utopia after one season on amazon queens. Sono after once. He's netflix's reversing a previous renewal. Which is benefiting all this time. Hoops after one season on netflix and health strong after one season on hulu and cala lou after many seasons on pbs and apparently a lot appearance are very happy about that because he's kind of a bratty kid to his parents. And i've only seen clips. But i haven't seen actually full episodes but i can't imagine why would have gone on for that long. Who is such a terrible show. But it's pbs. So maybe there's less standards. Cbs be positive. Has picked up five additional episodes bringing its total to a full series order of eighteen to. That's good news for people to watch that. I've never seen it and not great news for a couple of shows that are ending. This season aka cancelled slash ending defense on. You know who did the decision. The cwc black lightning will end with the current season. For or the to be aired season. For disney's duck tales will end with season three superstar ending with season six and his dark materials and was seasons three on. Hbo a superstar makes me really sad. I love that show so much. And it's it's one of the shows getting me through kovic right now you know. They're in real life basic well fictionalized version of real life. They're dealing with covert in their store. And so that's why they are airing episodes and i think it's been a good thing. It's not been detriment for the show. I love it. I still love it. I don't think it's been hindered at all by america rare leaving and hope that you can come back for the last episodes because she said when she left the show that she'd be willing to come back when the show ends so i haven't seen anything about via. I'm hoping that she will conan's o'brien conan o'brien's talk show is coming to an end. Tbs conan will conclude at the end of the ten season in june of twenty twenty one marking the end of a twenty eight year. Stint in late night television. You know not all of them years. We had some bumps in there. But he's that a lot of success on. Tbs and i was really happy for him that he was doing this but apparently he wants a career change and he's launching a new weekly variety series for hbo. Max so even more reason to move over there if you're a fan of him and of course he's dealt with a lot of turmoil in his career especially dealing with nbc ten years ago but he's had some really good success on tbs. I wish him well. I think he'll do really great with a variety series. And i'm happy for him so hopefully his fans follow him there and he continues to do great stuff. The daytime emmys have already committed to being held remotely in two thousand and twenty one. I think it's only a matter of time before the other award show to the same because it's still going to be six to nine months before everything is back to some kind of normal being able to be more than ten people in a room but the emmys of the first one to do this. They're going virtual with all of their enemies this year. This includes the sports emmys on june eighth. The daytime emmys sometime in the summer. They news and documentary emmys september. Twenty one and twenty two and the technology and engineering. Emmy october tenth. I would think this would also mean the primetime emmys but they did not mention that one. So that's interesting. I didn't realize there are so many emmy show. Because i've never heard of the other ones before the daytime have been virtual you know online for years so it doesn't really hurt me at all because people don't wanna hear it on tv anymore. Speaking of daytime. Here's an exciting news. Kelly ripa and merkin. Swallows are among the team working on a primetime continuation of all my children. I'm excited for this. I hope it happens. The new project is titled pine valley ak the pennsylvania community in which. Amc with san. It will her a young reporter with a secret agenda who arrives in town to bring pine valley's deadly history to light but naturally she gets tied up in a few between the santos and kane families because that's what you should do because they are founding families of the town at least for the last forty years. The perspective show will be heightened tone and relationship to so similar to jane the virgin the relationship to tell avila's the bulk of the care castle. Be new character with some familiar faces including us and rip up. Who of course started on the show together and him oven are happy together. They played halian. Matteo and i will not go into the many many years that amc was on. Because you know. I always a fan for a long time since nineteen six. It was my first soap that i watched starting with noah julius wedding pretty big thing to start watching that summer and i was dedicated to it up until it got cannelloni. Abc and i even followed it online where it went One life to live also went online. I will be happy to follow a continuation of all my my really hope it happens. I will be very excited for that. So stay tuned for news about them. Kids say the during his things is returning to its original network. Cbs has revived the latest version of the variety series hosted and executive produced by tiffany haddish for a second season to air. Twenty twenty one. This comes seven months after was canceled on. Abc it aired on the sunday night lineup for the nineteen twenty season and but it was originally on cbs. So that's exciting. That's going back to the same place. It used to be a didn't do very well. Abc's reckoner sam why they wanted to have it on different network. I never watched it on this revival. But i them well. I'm sure people watch it. He quite a few people who have died and the tv world over the last two months so the last part of my news is going to be talking about the many many many people who have passed away and it is a long list. But i one is nikki. Mckibbin the second runner up from only from american idol's first season died november. I according to her husband on facebook. She was only forty two. She placed third on the idol. Season behind kelly clarkson and just in who are rini she saying one moment in time perdition and advance to the next round of the competition. She released her debut album on may twenty second two thousand seven and toured with the metal band rivet head and two thousand twelve. She released another ep with band. Love-stricken demise to return to television in two thousand eight as part of the second season of celebrity rehab on vh one. When the season wrap she appeared on. Its spin off sober house. She briefly reappeared on season. Thirteen of idaho when she accompanied her son trysts into his audition and he made it through to the hollywood round and then was cut prior to the live shows so that was kind of cool full circle kind of thing. But she suffered an aneurysm and as a very sad way to go. When you're so young but that is nikki mckibbin. The next one of course is alex trebek and the sad thing is the his last episode of jeopardy aired today on january eighth but he died november eighth. After battling stage four pancreatic cancer and boy was see faithful to show until the end i mean. He was recording episodes for very long time up until he really couldn't anymore. He first revealed was cancer. Diagnosis in march of twenty nineteen via video. I know incitement and then basically has been fighting ever since. He said he wouldn't go to any extraordinary measures to ensure his survival but if his therapy proved to be unsuccessful he would do whatever he asked to do. Hey dream to make it to the two year survivor. Mike mark which would have been in february of this year. He said my doctor told me that. He is counting on me celebrating triggers survivorship past that stage for patriots cancer diagnosis and two years happened than february. So i expect to be around and hosts in the show from around and unfortunately did not make it that long. After emceeing several programs in canada he made his american hosting debut in nineteen. Seventy three on the game. Show the wizard of odds. He went on to host several variety programs and game shows in the seventies and eighties including double dare high rollers. I can't really imagine hosting double dare. But i'm trying to picture it in his answer. These strange travek was best known of course for jeopardy when she started hosting in nineteen eighty-four when stephanie was three so he's basically been the only person that i've known. Oh seen that show at the time was death e preside over eight thousand episodes of the beloved program and he had planned to remain hosts until at least twenty twenty two when new contract would expire when unfortunately not make it that long throughout his three plus decades as host he ranked up twenty eight daytime. Emmy nominations rawson game show host and a worthy one seven times. Anne also received a lifetime achievement award in two thousand eleven. He may guest appearances of himself on several tv shows over the years which included how i met your mother had in cleveland. And the colbert report and he famously imitated by welfare. During saturday night lives jeopardy sketches. He survived by a wife and their two children so a huge loss for the tv world. Especially because it's just his last week of episodes just aired and today was his last episode. Airing that's alexandra back so long. The next one is bert balasko. Best known for starring in the b. e. t. comedy series. Let's stay together. Died november ninth at the age of thirty eight. His body was found in a virginia hotel room where he was quarantining in preparing for a new project cause of death not confirmed his best known role was at a contractor. Charles whitmore on not stay together. Which ran from two thousand eleven to two thousand fourteen. The series followed engaged couple charles and stacey as they navigate the highs and lows in that relationship and was canceled after four seasons. He followed up with a recurring role on pitch on fox. And i do remember him on their replayed sunny evers. The mlb teammate of ginny bakers and several episodes of showtime's lived drowsy d. I'm dying up here. Bless goes tv credits. Include a of house justified key and peele. Ncis new orleans superstore in the mic. He last appeared in one. Installment of netflix's family comedy. The big show show which was canceled in a in august. So that s. Burt velasco fox. And the producers of master chef junior are paying tribute to former contestants. Ben watkins who died november seventeenth after battling a rear cancel cancer and died of the right bold age of fourteen so very sad and statement fox and the production company said ben overcame so much in his life with remarkably positive attitude. He was a tremendous role model for chefs of all ages and will be dearly missed by everyone in two thousand nineteen watkins who appeared in master chef. Junior sixth season was diagnosed with an extremely rare. Soft tissue tumor. His death comes three years after his parents were killed and domestic violence incident while that is very sad. End for our young star ben watkins. The next one is sandy war best known as soap fans for his iconic. Brush stroke logo on the young and the restless. He died on november. Twenty second the age of eighty six outside of the soap world d'ivoire wise well known for his title sequences on tv staples. Like the partridge family knots. Landing the waltons fell crass north and south among many others in nineteen eighty seven. He won an emmy for artistry for the main title. Sequence of tb special. Carol carl what be in robin saint his sandy for the next one is. British bodybuilder. Turned actor david pros. Best known as the physical embodiment of darth vader. In the original star. Wars trilogy died on november twenty nine at the age of eighty five. According to cnn he died of prostate cancer. Although james earl jones voiced legendary billon it was the six foot six pros who won an who wore darth vader's iconic black suit and helmets so very well known persona. even though we actually didn't ever see his face you know he was the physical embodiment of him. Saint is david. Perot's the next one is falcon crest star. Abby dalton who played julia passed away at the age of eighty eight on november twenty third from extended illness. She survived by her husband. Three children three grandchildren and one great grandchild dalton. Shot a tv stardom on the military drama hennessy from nineteen fifty nine to sixty two and sixty one. She was nominated for an outstanding supporting actor emmy for her role as lieutenant martha martha. She also started in the billing. The joey bishop show and popped up on multiple hit game shows. She even appeared on the young and the restless in nineteen ninety. Five as lydia summers mom took phyllis but it was her role on falcon crest but she occupied from nineteen eighty one to eighty six said. Most so fans will remember. She played juliet daughter too. Overbearing channing. Family patriarch angela. Julia worked in the family winemaking business but was unable to break out of angela. Shadow said a spoken. Chris star abby dalton. The next wednesday is david lander who is best known to tv audiences for playing be ladder. Half of ranchera lease irie principal. Lenny and squeaky died. After thirty seven years of having multiple sclerosis he was seventy. Three landers wife of forty one years kathy along with her daughter natalie and her husband were bias when he passed penny. Marshall of course died exactly two years ago from diabetes related complications prior to his eight season. Run as swiggy which began in nineteen seventy six. He guested on tv series. Such as barney miller road and love american style after the abc Comedy switched off in nineteen eighty three two and a half years. After the soft reboot relocated this action from milwaukee hollywood. That was kind of mistake. They shouldn't have done that. Lander enjoyed runs on myriad show is including the love boat on the air twin peaks and dance choreographer pine weasel expert and homecare salesman. Tim pinkel the animated series oswald with his co star michael mckinnon and the bold and the beautiful and civic blew his assorted film credits. Include who framed roger rabbit a league of their own nineteen forty one and used cars a wider two of which also featured michael mckinnon makina in atlanta. I met in nineteen sixty five during acting classes at carnegie mellon or they developed with it would become their money and sway persona most recently lander co on the web series. Break a hip and voice work for the garfield show and two thousand sixteen episode of spongebob. Squarepants that is david. Lander will never be another squeegee in our in our generation in tv history steph firmly larger than life character. The next one is actress. Natalie the sal read best known tv audiences as jeannie arrogance from the upn. Sitcom eve has signed the age of fifty. Three honor instrument was written in is extremely heavy hearts that we share the loss of beautiful natalie. This morning she was a bright light in this world. A queen an extraordinary mother and wife. Her diverse career touched so many and it'll be loved forever. Naturally we are grieving and processing this from profound loss. We thank you in advance for respecting privacy. At the extremely difficult time dissol read had been battling colon cancer additional tv credits for her include a coaster role on. Abc's nineteen ninety-seven reboot of cinderella and boy. Do i remember her. So well from that role. That is the role that i remember her from. Because i never watched the show eve and she also had guests on family matters. Yes dear and e. Er on the big screen. She appeared in the movie. Set it off baps and medina's beg fabio family that is natalie deceitful read. The next one is peg. Murray recurred on all my children from nineteen eighty three to eighty six and he passed away on november twenty ninth. She was ninety six and resided in an assisted care facility in long island. She's bannon declining. How suffering a stroke. She appeared on. Amc as modeling agent. Oga swinson who boosted the runway careers of. Erica kane and jenny gardner. She was also credited with several appearances on love of life and loving a longtime advocate of access for theater arts. She may be best known for her. Tony award winning work in the musical cabaret. She originated the role of frau lang coast and nineteen sixty six bringing home the statuette for best supporting actress in a musical for her performance throughout the next two decades she also shredded the boards in fiddler on the roof and the royal family peg murray. I don't think i ever saw her on my face. That's a little bit before my time of watching a show when i started in ninety six. I don't remember seeing her character so she must of and on that reform. I watched but i any character. Who's been on. I so for thirteen years as someone that you should mention thinking of soaps. Here's another one. Former soap scribe. Michael slater co-creator the digital series after forever has passed away his producing and writing partner on the emmy winning series. Kevin spirit spiritus who've craig. Today's our lives shared the sad news on facebook. Slated been battling cancer for the past three and a half years. He said besides his work in the drama after forever he wrote for passions one life to live days of our lives and another world slate. His also known for his work as a playwright sent. Michael slade deadliest catch star nick. Mcglasson at the age of thirty three mcglasson appeared in many episodes of the reality series about crab fisherman as well as the deadliest. Catch off shoots the bait. Greenhorn captain burson captain and the legend wild bill as well as the bering sea gold mcglashan cause of death has not been made public for years. He struggled with addiction to drugs and alcohol fight that he captured on camera. He left the show in season. Thirteen deal with his problems and later returned. said is fishermen. Nick mcglasson an the next one is dawn wells who played kansas born. Farmgirl marianne summer's on gilligan's island. She died peacefully in her sleep as a result of complications related to covid nineteen at the age of eighty two prior to three season. Existence as gilligan's hapless castaway wells a renowned native who in nineteen fifty-nine represented nevada in the miss america pageant. Guests it on numerous tv series including maverick wagon train. Seventy seven cents a strip and hawaiian gilligan's island premiered on cbs. In september nineteen sixty four and ran until sixty seven in april. I am surprised. It's three three years at seems really short. Well who beat out. Three hundred and fifty other actresses to play wholesome marianne also appeared in the follow up tv movies rescued from yoga. Island in nineteen seventy eight. The castaways gilligan's island in nineteen seventy nine following her assorted island misadventure. She gets it on series. Such as bonanza vegas a special roseanne episode that pay tribute to sherwood schwartz the ebbing tales of captain underpants and the ball in the beautiful onstage. He started more than sixty theatrical productions including the national tourist of chapter two and they're playing our song in honor of gauguin's island fiftieth anniversary. She released guide to life. What would marianne do in which she wrote about the meaning of the maryanne character and the cultural shifts. That have occurred since she was on the island. And have there been a lot. That is don wells next one. Carry vincent a judge. Ob food network challenge died on january second from an undisclosed disease and was seventy five the oklahoma state. Sugar art show a nonprofit organization. Vincent co-founded announced her dad on facebook. Vincit was a judge on food network challenge from two thousand six two thousand twelve appearing in seventy five episodes in two thousand fourteen. She served as a host on save my bakery which she helped which helped struggling bakeries the series ran for nine episodes. Might be actually pretty relevant now. She was also published author having written the book. Romantic wedding cakes in two thousand two. The australian-born credits include appearances on the great australian beg off holiday gingerbread showdown the best thing i ever each and last cake standing she has survived bear husband doug and his curious vincent from food network challenge. The next one is actress. Tanya roberts best known for her work on charlie's angels and that seventies show died on monday nights at the age of sixty. Five robert was hospitalized at los angeles is cedar sinai hospital after collapsing on christmas eve fouling in discouraging hospital based on sunday roberts domestic partner lance o'brien believed that she had passed without speaking of medical staff. You relate this information to her. Rab who incorrectly confirmed her death to the media on sunday. The story took an uninspected on monday when it the same rep announced that in fact she was still alive than passed away later today. In a separate interview. O'brien fox news. That roberts was hospitalized for complications of a uti which then spread to her kidneys. Liver and gallbladder before it got into her blood will be remembered for by millions for her work on the small screen she stirred on. Charlie's angels as julie rogers before playing it message on that seventy show as well as her performances in films up to kill the base master and the beast master to the show. We just mentioned on. Chuck rewind the other day roberts other tv credits including roles on the love boat fantasy island and silk stockings among other popular shows that tanya roberts and the last one is deer run deesor d thompson who played nurse. Molly mcgrath on the long running. Nbc medical drama e. r. died. Just yesterday a thursday. The seventh at the age of fifty five thompsons brother marshawn toll. Tim youth the actor westbound unresponsive in his los angeles home the family died of a heart attack. He previously underwent open heart surgery in two thousand nine but official cause of death has not been disclosed thompson. Recurred throughout all fifteen seasons of your including the pilot and the series finale all told the appeared in one hundred ninety episodes prior to er he starred in the chris rock film see before i digital credits included bringing down the house. The john larroquette show and rami michele's high school reunion. He also worked as a motivational speaker and hip hop performer. Sat deesor quite maliki on er tackling him quite well from that show so our hearts go out to the family and friends and fans of all these different people in the tv world and that wraps up our news for this week which took pretty long move on to the weekly or rewind and talk about shows that have aired in the last week. Get some thoughts on what happened since we have just started into january. Not a lot of things have aired yet and because of kobe. Not a whole lot of things are airing period but very happy. Return to the airwaves of zoe's extraordinary playlist season two premiere. Zoe's extraordinary return and boy was a return to form. I loved it from tapped by. It was a fantastic episode. It's just such a great show. I love it so much and my my love for the show can know no bounds. Absolutely love it. Of course the song and dance. Numbers are always great. The characters are always excellent. It's just an unflicting warmhearted show. I love the so much in. It's so moving. There's so many emotions that i have wrapped up in these characters that i've seen have just beautiful things happen to them and tragic things happen them over these the last season so yes it was quite a return and was very emotional. Turn as well so things. Pick up six weeks. After the first season finale with zoe still reeling from mitch's death and coming out of a period of self-imposed isolation during which she had time to think about and reflect on everything. That's happened which includes not only losing her dad but also developing these powers that she's dealt with and the fact that she's been in this love triangle for all of this practically all last season and now she has to deal with all of this so she comes to understand that not only does she have to deal with max and simon but now they've become best buddies and they're also hanging out with more on a regular basis so that's like things have changed in a very short time. We also find out in this episode. That joan is leaving. And that's because lauren graham couldn workout scheduling with the show and decides to go to a new show. The mighty ducks reboot on disney plastic. Honestly nobody wants so. I don't understand it but it was going to work out. Perfectly beyond bo. Show is but you know covid skirt giving up with scheduling so turns out about josie filming the same time that this show is filming so they could not make it work so she decided to leave but this points zoe and agreed position. Because during this episode they have a very touching moment. You know not only is she. She comes over to the house at check on her. After you know all the stuff she's been dealing with but also says that she's been she's leaving and going taking a promotion in taiwan. I think it is but now she has to find somebody to be here replacement and she wants so easy to do her job so now she's going to be the executive director of the fourth floor at square point and she gets the half the the glass door office and you know have a position of power and i kinda like that a lot. 'cause she's dealing with a lot of stuff so i was going to be really good for her to what her in a position of higher rank and she's obviously had the a role model in joan for salon. So it's hard for zohreh to turn this down because there's really no bad things about this. She will have new responsibility. The climate floor has changed so much now. That leaf is the and manager during her absence. And then we have this new guy. George who is super awkward and kind of really nice and he's getting hazed by the other people on on the floor so it's kind of pudding zoe on the outside looking in. So maybe this new position will be really good for her and her love. Life is a bit less complex at the end of the episode after kind of figuring out that she's going to have to make a decision between simon. And max i'm definitely on max one hundred thousand present and so as zoe because you know they have a really cute moment. Lots of key moments read the episode. But he finally gets the girl and she kisses him and as just a lovely at their their chemistry is just so beautiful and they have such a great relationship belt built on friendship. He gives her a ring at the beginning to give her superpowers such. She can go back to work. Oh it's just beautiful. And of course simon is left in the wings. But he's going to be fine. He's probably gonna find somebody else and i think it's fine because he was kind of a transition guy to how she helped him to grieve over his family member and he's been there for her throughout her grieving process and i think he's kind of just a very good friend and wants the best for her and i think he's gonna be fine. They have shared pain to bond over. But you know that's only lasts for so long. I really think. Max is the end game for her. And he's just the best and of course the mo who is always best friend coming to pick her up to make sure that she gets to work literally singing to her. You know out loud for real not in her head At the beginning of the episode and encouraging her to really have courage to do a great job and she is the first one who finds out that always powers are back because as soon as she gets to work people start singing and dancing around and most says oh. Now you're more interesting is your papers are back. And she has a really cute moment with mojo in the hall. Where you know. She's been to work and she really is confused about everything going on mohammed's our wine and she says take this to go. Because i have a lot of the things to deal with. I have these two guys. I don't know what to do. And i this potential promotion at work and most like you just have terrible problems. You have a potentially great job. You have a handsome guy even more guy to deal with. You have nothing to complain about the get out of your own head. I think it was. It was adorable. Mode is tell tells her what. What's what and the fact that mo- maximum all friends. And she's gotten no both of them. So well i think it's going to be. It's a great show is love dynamic. The dynamic of all the friends being together it's just great and it turns out In this episode. That max max and mo- her actually comes up with a great idea for a business because he's been you know without a job since the last season and hasn't really figured out what he's gonna do and then mo off hanley says this idea about a business that restaurant could serve other businesses restaurants that could serve other restaurants food much. Sound really weird but it sounds like a great idea living working together. And that's something for him to do instead of just being concerned about zoe's work and their relationship and all that stuff giving them a different dynamic. I i like that. A and she realizes thrown his episode that she's not as lost as she thought she was. Obviously she has still so much to deal with having lost her dad and her mom is still you know really reeling with all this and in a different way and they have some really touching moments in this episode on. They see some videos of their dad that he made before he lost his voice. And it's just a little bit too much for all of them but they do eventually bond over bat and mom is also dealing with you. Know settling all those affairs that her husband had like trying to figure out what his email password is so she can cancel this account. And he's always like you have a a really smart p Computer my computer coder for our daughter. Two seconds and then. I was just so funny and of course. Zoe has not been handling any of this very well. And she. You know cosies up on mom shoulder like he's really dealing with some stuff at mom's really doing stuff and i have some real heart to heart talks in this episode and she realizes through another through another Song and dance that she sees is her family is dealing with some stuff. You know even her brother and sister-in-law who had a baby and they're dealing with some stuff dealing with a newborn. They're trying to move along with their lives. And it's it's really hard because you know. They had so much deal with lately but they need to move on but it was a. It was a great episode. There is so many great things. Going forward the weirdness with the boys is kind of of max simon. They're weird at first but things are going into nice pattern and she's kind of have has a better direction now her powers bag and you know she's never going to be without that loss of her dad but i think this episode was a great jumping off point for her to realize that she still has a great pete great amount of people in her life that care about her and are supporting her and will be there for her no matter what they've lived through this grief with her of these last six weeks but they're gonna be there for her. It doesn't matter you know how long it's gonna. It doesn't matter how long it's gonna take so. This episode was a great one especially for zoe. But so many other characters on the show who had been in a holding pattern a little bit especially all those in her orbit. Her family members her friends. Her friends actually continuing to be bonded and and being together aside her the two guys in the girl But this is a great episode for them especially those who are in life. Because zoe realized that she hasn't happened to you know mope around and be sad all the time. Because she's gonna be okay so it's a great returning episode and embodies everything that has been always lovely about the show at lays out a clear pattern for progress and it's the kind of white earn team really need right now because the world sucks right now all of you now. It's especially the things that have gone on in the last two months especially especially the last couple of days man. There's a lot of s-h-i-t out there that we had the deal within the in the media and the world hope is on the way so we just have. These hopeful show is like zoe's extraordinary place to help us through. I think we're gonna be okay so if you're looking for i heard show that just is just fantastic and just has great relationships. Great music great emotions. Oh it's just a roller coaster. I love it so much but it's just it's just the perfect show especially at this time of the world so definitely check it out if you're not yet because it's definitely worth your time so with that move on. There are some returning shows this coming week. But i don't have the schedule in front of me. I know that there are some comedies. Coming back on. Abc and nbc. The show mr mayor has aired last week. And i haven't seen it yet so definitely give you a review on that one. I have seen the first couple episodes. But i haven't seen them yet. So move on to record for later. And there's been a lot of things that i watched over his two months A lot of things. So this recap a couple of things that i've seen. I watch saved by the bell on peacock which was so cute. It was super cheesy over the top and delightful at the same time. It's again one of these lighthearted shows that we need at this time with world's so do yourself a favor and get your free trial week or whatever they do for peacock and that's what it is a week And checkout saved by the bell. It's super cute. I love the adults from the original show came on there and are the you know leaders teachers especially jesse in and slater and they have a potential. The might be something going on between them by the end of the season. And i like that. Because i'm always shipped them from the original show. It was kind of annoying. That zack and kelly only made a couple of appearances. But they're kind of really not great characters anymore apparently they're like really superficial and shallow but the kids on the show are really great. The little the young actors and actresses are just fabulous. So if you have not had a chance to check that one out. I would highly recommend it. I liked it a lot. And they're short and i think there's only ten or twelve them or something. I don't think there's many so you can definitely get that in easy bench and the next one was bridgeton on netflix. Oh that was a hot show. Oh my goodness my goodness. It's definitely a very worthwhile benge but it is very very hot. Latte sexy times happening on that joel nakedness. But oh my gosh. It was great. It was it was a great british soap opera. There's a lot of drama going on a lot of romance lead sex. I really enjoy that a lot. So that's your mature. Pick for this week for churn What else i only watched cobra kai is well. I just finished that one. As of a couple of days ago. I started watching it because it released on january first and i happened to be at a town now weekend. So i watched a couple episodes while you're gone and then continue to watch a couple more episodes over the week and just a couple of episodes at a time she. I knew there only ten episodes and they're gonna be really good night. Wanna rush through it in five or six hours and then be like now. What do you do with my life. And i don't have another season for maybe a year so i really wanted to enjoy it and it was pretty great. I love that show so much season three. Put everything up to like three thousand in the notch. I mean he's in one and two were good and i loved those watch those not flex but season three kicked it up a thousand percent. It was really great. I loved the relationships of johnny and miguel and getting him rehabbed back to where he was before. Johnny's kid who got himself in trouble. He is really lost. He doesn't have any father figures in his life. His dad abandoned him. His mom is an alcoholic and he just has all these cards stacked against him but every happened was just was really good but it was really good. It's definitely worth checking out. I loved it. The action was fantastic. The finale was phenomenal. The surprise reappearance of couple of characters from the movies was delightful. And i'm glad to have seen them and they. They brought a lot of episodes so definitely. Highly recommend cobra kai and i'm.

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The Sunday Service 6-30-19

Double Toasted

3:01:02 hr | 2 years ago

The Sunday Service 6-30-19

"Seven eleven has more drinks than times, you've been caught singing in your car and random Lear, extorting your brain combined. Choose from flavour-filled slurpy, and big gulp drinks, Chris coconut water energizing cold. Brew and hot coffee. Fresh organic cold press. Juices, invigorating energy drinks cooling purely ice teeth refreshing deer park. One hundred percent natural still and sparkling spring water. Plus many more only participating seven eleven stores. The lord. Thank the lowest, thank you doing. Nobody said they serve your double toast of dot com past core Coleman over here got men combined Thomas. How're you doing man? Well. Wants to drink. Juicy. Rudy. Yes. In the best way house. How's everybody, you are imprisoned? Always oh praise you Martin you'll refresh an ass. How you doing? What's your own? Sleeve when you want to look. Oh, good today, because we have spy, the men today. We have spider man, had his home cooking home. Come on back on. He needs to bring back on home, but take your time this review his movie today in, then we had the box office for you. And I'm just gonna warn you guys right now, I'm probably going to go off today. I'll say. Oh, no. Gonna go this week, visit member do that. Oh, the harder than ever. That somebody starting to fire over there. Two. Unraveling burgers, the whole time. All kind of snapping and popping locking. What the hell is going on? It ain't just what it is. No got them. I heard it is it frozen shit checked everybody quantity. Even making noise where you talk. A Puerto Rican. Thank you enough for what. Countdown. Three t no emails last that you wanted to put a Regan. The fuck wide up. Doing doing. All right. What is going on with the two year? Not this going on with me, man. And I'm getting tired of this shit because everybody coming in thinking, I don't say nothing him. He's always. Hey, how you doing? Hey, girl. People talking about shit. I thought that was just a joke. Pajau seemed to be reading. No. I mean as a point when somebody tells a joke so many times you go. Like you know what I think you try to tell me something? Well, let me tell you what happened with this. Yeah, we get a little bit, of course talking about call over here. Tell you what happened when here. Cut the bullshit airtime. Call him up. Hey baby, the baby bitch. Hey bitch, baby. Even stock got picks of shirtless shit grin and Easton Easson shirtless a lot, though. He has a lot but pick one gritted. Right before I came in. He's happy you probably just got through talking to. Especially falls aren't sticky. Yeah. Phone looking like a glazed Donut. Yes, showing me pictures, a myself that he gets off too. And I'm like, why are you showing me this stock is usually keep this secret man? But I'll call them up, and I just, I said, cut the bullshit, I got I have I have a question to ask him, and I said, I said, man, you know, I wanna I wanna go somewhere to Jim. They have a pool. I want to do some more swimming, not. I don't live. I don't live with is pool anymore. So. Call just straight for Carlos man. The gym that you talking about. They have a pool. Thinking about silent. They're always opening. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thinking about sending up come with me. We'll get a scheduled together. We'll go together. We'll get some time to go in exercising. I don't wanna be around national. I'm fucking neck negative sweating. He just plain. We'll get us scheduled together. We'll go together. We're exercise together. Fuck each other, we'll go swimming. Wait, wait, wait. What was that? What was that last? We have a plan. Thank you. We got admit you have naked and wets kind of irresistible, I know but you don't have. I mean. He was just go swim in that job for free. Right. But. I know this, you don't have to tell me what I know. Don't tell me how much you want to do it. I have to how much you want to do and like you he's just cutting through the bullshit. You know what it gets the point where I got that a long time ago? It was done like the first two weeks was here when he was calling me up. My wife was getting jealous. Tumba who's calling you babe as Carlos. She didn't believe me. She was like, oh, you expect me to believe it? And I just said, look, what's a real scroll down to the dick pic. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, let me know how. And then he stopped showing up at the house unannounced, and even when you leaning on, on the fucking Greenwich and give you the wink. Yeah. All right. I'll tell my wife is for you. But yeah. Anyways, I, I'm just letting you know it ain't it like I'm done with this, and Amy man. I just let I thought if I let him do it, he would just kinda tire himself out. And he just was stopped. But now. In a written, transcript that in south what you just said, he's, he's waiting for me to death. I don't know. Man. He just waved me to fuck my course. That's only what you're gonna give me. Chris Harman left the room. He was we heard all that. No man, I'm willing. I'm going to go off at this. So I got two minute, I I've been trying to not saying I'm just you're not for real because most save it for the very in. So anybody out there who watching anybody in here? Let's on no young early because I'm talking about these kids. If they putting me's really unsanitary conditions at the board of man, and I'm feeling really like like this weekend. I'm just depressed about it this whole weekend. And I just said, you know, fucking I'm feeling I'm feeling helpless about it, too. So ain't nothing worse than feeling depressed and help us about. And I'm just I'm just mad at the whole who policy of the whole thing. So I'm going off on everything is one of those shows, I'm probably gonna say some shit like people gonna pull up later on, like we'd get more successful than what we do right now, people like this is the show. They gonna pull up. And they say this is what you said, at the time, and there's no excuse for you, Tom. But. Oh, that was a long time ago because it really sounded like you meant this shit, and I do as of today, I'm not I'm I am not hold. Any kind of punches on this at all? Do I still want to be here? I don't know. Do you have a Mexican kid at home? You got case somewhere, you won't tell me about you talked to. I love you man over here. She how come everybody? Bam it looks like you in drag. Some strong jeez. Heal dot. It made me want to put you in address some lipstick mission. You know Carlos. Carlos. But, you know, the head I know how you would look all look at her. So that's the big sister over there. Can can I call her up real Queen? Yeah. Come on up to you. Ahead rolling seat right this. So she can she can roll up here. Talk to her. How how long is this? I gotta be honest with you. Let me give you this, Michael tone. We just met the one. Martin has got the most complicated gut Dan, family situation, I've ever heard in my life. Margaret. He told me he was adopted but still got his own real family and shouldn't. Yeah, he was raised by Pekka walls. Okay. No, no, no wolf is being kind. That's, that's a lot nicer than what I would say. Okay. So fucking. So he was number two. Okay. Other one before thirty three years before. See this Tom, that's a formula. That's not like a it's not a family. Tree is has to figure this shit out. Fifty three years just mitt all things to ancestry dot com. Really works at works. Really? Wow. So where are you from? You're from Kamaruddin. Tell me about the first time that he was gonna meet you. And he even told me he's like came, begging, like, well, I'm not sure we ever meet each other again. So I didn't know what he said to you, when he saw you. Oh, check. Can't hear you. Microphones. Check can't hear you. Mike is turned up. I don't know why they can you hear you say some. Oh, you know what? This Mike is. Okay. You know what? It's been be what I think it is. Can you do me a favor can you see this hooked up over here? This. Okay. I guess two three. Okay. This Ben that'd be what I think it is. What do you think? It is bad cord. No, bad people. Oh, somebody else put in the wrong spot. You, you, you know we I want to say none. But, you know, this, you know, ever since his maternal DJ miles production studios. Say. They might not be it might not be. But you know this, this one talking about it. I'll tell you thought it was putting gremlins in here mush. It didn't work at one time. And I figured out it was him coming here for the last two weeks fucking with things. So that's why some wasn't connected. Outside. It's call waiting for you to leave so. Coming here with his crew. Yeah. Yeah. Know who it is this? I just plug shit up and put things back like supposed to be all as I ask for that one thing. Still, this is why I tell people to let me know and why tell them come in the first goddamn, please. But. I'm a nice person I let them up in the got your sister in here and ain't by fucking here because God goddamn. Fucking Robert Sayas. Whatever his name studios up in here. You earn this? Student, you're gonna pay for that. Now the secret's out. It was that for coming here using this shit. I don't give. No. Hell no, no. You won't come here and use it put the ship back like a ask you to come in here. God them on his way. I bet you bet you styles by Home Depot a production crew to bring the please. Puerto rican. Day related to you spirit. Do. Familiar. I want to hear that. Anyway, anyway. So, so Martin sister here so you from Washington DC. Yes. So how was it you to meet each other? Oh, it was amazing. He first of all, we of the, of the brothers because the baby brother who's eight years difference in he and less than two years difference. But I have more in common with him. We enjoy we've been finishing each other's sentences saying stuff at the same time you know, he does that to everybody. No. Does that everybody lifting about faucets ahead of you? Well, he came, he got it from because he hasn't gotten a word in edgewise okay for since I got here. So, but no, it was it was an amazing wonderful. He looks exactly like my uncle Howard, who is the child. My father, our father is the ninth. He looks like you know. Look at this, this is incredible. Your family has really Mark Rogers. Gene, the light skinned in the nose. Roger very light colored is what Hazel Graham and other two brothers one brother has like blue green is the other one is great green is he's only when it came out with dark eyes. But no. Yeah, I mean cheeks the nose everything. It's clearly. Yeah. Baby down ticks over there. Even if I did where I pay for them. Got the receipt. No, it's a pleasure having you here. I am a man. I gotta say that it's an honor to have you here. I'm so happy, they Martin filled compelled and comfortable enough to bring you in here. And I can tell that you have a very similar personalities. So, yeah. You fit. Right in anyway. Yeah. Insisted she assisted kept trying to say, like, hey, you don't wanna go see the sights Austin hanging with my wife. She's like no. I want to come to the podcast haven't seen it live. All right. See the new that had the sole Barack thing going on over here. Don't blow him. Yeah. He'd been calling me Barack Obama behind my back. Not even in your dream like I've been doing what is Barack was a wishy was in front of you. You know what is, what is this? Up the same smart ass attitude. I can do come on. It's got the same mouth, too. Trailers? Complement, and, you know, already bro issues like that. Somebody being compared to Barack Obama. The. How? Go into world, right? He says. Not just see what happened here. I said, did you call me Barack Obama Hamma beca? You like negro you was. You was you would just said that. Actually, I said, okay, both you're on your back. But. It was an insult. No, I got damn you see what's happening here. Y'all just a lake what a fucked up, put up on. Who the fuck Bronco? But that's all. Is it you? This is why you cannot pay negroes coupla because he walked up he walked into door back there. Right. And the I thought I had was he got a little swagger, like Barack, I think I'm doing a good thing, but as you know. I said, did you? He called me Barack Obama, you liked. You wish you was saying he's saying you wish you would. Hey, you compliment costed. I tried to take it. Did you? Yes, simple. Thank you. Barack obama. He said back. Yeah. Because your words go, get him going to say, who called me, here's was don't go down who called me Barack Obama. It was gonna be followed by a thank you. We have. Damn picking up. We have to like ban. Okay. Two of us to make one a us I make you feel better. Yes. Thank you very much pay. Appreciate the compliments. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You want me to go you go get, I'll just checking. Dismiss you. No, no, no. I'm just looking at you right now. 'cause you're gorgeous. Thank you. Thank you, very much, you married. No nut newly. Newly. Newly that there's in lately. Last two seconds. Right about the time you walk through the door. More would tell you that if I was singled, Marwood would not bring you in here. Because Martin I don't give a fuck. Saying, please, not this and you'd be looking at lives going. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'll be telling us what France supposed to do. So where's your older brother, uncle, or somebody, particularly personality? Yeah. I don't want no parts of the whole family. Now. Good right here. Okay. Tell you true. You don't want to go back. He will. He will pretend no thing. Watch what happened. Southeast. Now, I know we came here about this. This accident. I got back. Across the street. Yeah. He got still bad. Why you smell like ribs? Ramp place in what Liebau to Selker. Hungry here. General fairly, they're not taking the X. A thirsty. Eight hundred. You know. Hugged themselves. I'm sorry. God damn make off due to be married. You talk too much shit waiting on that. When we get to the point Tom me into pocket lot. I'm hitting you. I really apologize to her. So she show up out there and I'm in trouble because you're talking stuff just put you she'll get his being say, take him. I've had enough. Is your wife a foreigner, very much? Okay. Now, you know, he's using accent. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Thought Turkey though, she was regular. Transylvania. Oh, good to have you here, though. I want to get to know you little bit better because I'd heard about you, and I didn't know that you to had gotten close like this. It was it was sort of instantaneous. It was pretty quick. Yeah. I mean like me a lot of crying. And then we closed the restaurant, the whole family is awesome plays in DC where it's, it's a bar where you can smoke cigars in it. So we said, oh, really at Japanese whisky and cigars. Oh, nice and happen. I mean it was a menu with, like forty different whiskies on it. And he picked the exact one. That's my favorite. And then when I said you like cigar, he's like you smoke cigars. Yeah. The occasion, I'm not every day does talked down one talk. Y'all and y'all closely y'all have so much income, we really do. I would I would find us alert getting catfish right now. She. I've been looking at related to you. She'd been hacking this talking you for. She used to host a game show on BT used to host the game show. I am America's first black female game show host is they're not Kim. Coles is if footage online. Oh. No. At the time that I was on cable was so new like in DC, only thirty thousand homes will wired for cable at the time. And so nobody knew me, but I was the shit in Des Moines. Why go, so it was only five thousand black people in Des Moines. And they had no black radio stations. So they would turn on BT and leave the TV on the radio. So when I got to the moment, I was like doing barbecue. Shop appearance. Took me by the smoker. It's not my fault. But anyway, but how do everyone was like I was really like hot stuff in the moment. But nobody gave a crap in DC. So there's like like there's no like you can't Google and find me. I'm just lying. Leave me alone. Okay. I'm not lying. I can't tell what you are. No more. Do some research. You know, so you made history then I did. So you the first year male black. I was the first game host female gay. And, and we did something that, Bob Barker, never even did we were live. And with no six second delay. We'll sort of like and here right now a really so nobly so you can just say whatever you want to well, maybe your last show last show, but we did have a call. It was a it was a call in game show. So the contestants were callers, but we had, you know, celebrity comedians and radio announcers, and, you know, singers, Brenda Russell and all kinds of folks like that coming on the show, and I was then people would say, oh, you mean like Vanna white. I'm like no pets Jack. That's what was, and we had a viewer listener came on, and she was telling her stories about said, give me your worst hair. We've story and she came she said I was at church. And I thought it was cute. And I had this ponytail on, and this is the cable hug me. And she said n. Shit came off, and you could not say that in nineteen eighty five. Yeah, there was no six second delay. Oh, wait. FCC would've snatched us like they don't like shit is now the approve word on TV now. So you can say shouldn't you could say shit? Now, you could not say shit then. So that's probably why you hosted anymore. Your own number one hit one. Lasted one. Good thirteen weeks. And, you know, next time anybody said, Julie Rogers from tell me something good the crickets, which is the loud. You can't find any of this online anyway. No, I have not been able to happen that a friend of mine, oldest shit friend of mine had on VHS shut up. Added VHS. Transferred to DVD. Like obsolete on top obsolete. Got a track to see you. All my gut right now is cute, according to us. Yeah. You know, people I'm talking to Martin as long lost sister that he found on ancestry dot com right now. This is like a long as commercial districts. Just give you some money. I'm just saying, you know. Well, I'm glad you found each of it. I really am. I really have. Yeah you are door. I gotta give you that you talk a lot of shit but you adorable for south east. You couldn't live. You couldn't be light skinned live in southeast with out being able to so those you'll realize. Very ones that, that granddaddy. Tell you to not let that Turkish woman show. I'm not look, you know, you go get drinks. I can't fuck around no more. But I can flirt. I can still learn ain't nothing wrong with Barry. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Let's you got us to. People who look out for him, don't she say? See what's see you. She used to wash the shows to see what was going to say and I was good for about two months. I'll get on here man. My wife was wonderful. My wife is amazing woman, this lovely live. I would not be the man on today without my wife. I can't in the day, she got bored with their. Starts like so guess what? She did. A day, you know is going to happen that cheap will have just happened to turn the show on base. You know she draws win. I'm saying. And your women classically. They don't they don't come after the man, they always run after the woman. That's, that's this culture Turkey though, she'll stab my advert. And then try that whole saying, I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun, you. That's what actually I'd never heard this before chasing. We understand. I don't have to run the I just got out run. You know you. Well, you know what me and my brother going to be in the car, and he's always doing podcasts. And I'm going to be hanging on. Oh, let me, let me, let me, let me send you back to you. See plug in trouble over here. No trump. No not. I don't either. I don't need you. We talked too much to each other. But this. All my hoses on us. Are you? Are you really married children, are you? No, I'm actually brand new divorce was getting divorced. We found each other really. Yes. So it became official like in September. So I'm like in coal do over what congratulations reinventing myself? All it. So you at the reading them streets, living library, nine run in streets. Somebody mama. Four four hold his oldest one. Twenty six twenty six grandmother, your grandmother. I am a grandmother. Jesus born. So then proficiently makes you a gift. Saver too. That even. Listening to long as. And each this, right. This up. We have the Hague. See. Me. I get killed. How quiet they got. Semi nobody. I was looking at my phone. I didn't see what. All the cause of the room under like. Gone. Bet you'll see in trouble. Yeah. Gone back over there. Good to see. All right. I'll see you. Yeah. That is. Oh, good to have y'all here today realize it was nice. No fun. I wouldn't picked up from Houston yesterday. She's been staying with this. So how long are you gonna be in town tomorrow leaving tomorrow? How she's been here since yesterday? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Very nice. Hey, y'all sorry about this? We. The old yellow to Dan quick for this man. From the moment, we got to Baraka didn't even get to a bomb it before we got here. Look at this. Gerald right there. Man, already put me in there, like Barack Obama. Appreciate it, though. Free complimentary swagger. I do. I do. Thank you for that. Good to have you here today. Chat how you're doing was going on. And we are happy to have you here. Sorry, took me slow to get to you guys. It's not often that we get your long lost family. You just started. Bring your daughter in here. G- winning who, by the way is great on camera man. Oh, yeah. People asking for us to put a female on the show and she's actually my first pick. Get outta here. No. She's great. She's great on camera man. She got a great personality. Keep telling you wonders with those kids seen some shitty kids. I'll tell you I would. I'll let you know if I don't like you'll kids, I've had, I have some friends that their I've been talking about them bad tomorrow, the friends. If you've got if you have kids, I will tell you right now man, I got some friends that there was some kids. I don't like damn their kid like like I said, you know, you supposed to say nice things about kids. Fuck them. Man, Danny kids. I don't like that bad. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's the parents fault that the rays writing shit. But it just some kids, I. Yeah, man. I'm a fuck about your kids anymore. Are they bradey or serial killers? Oh, that's a potential mass shooters. That's a good question man, the kind of spoiled, so that could mean later, all when dad says to cut them off that they might come back and kill his. Probably too late. Maybe they'll hire somebody to do it. Yeah, man. I don't. Yeah. I don't know. But their kids that they're just treat up. I don't even talk to me until them. Don't talk to me. Look, I'm here to see your mom and dad. I'm not fucking with you. Maybe a long phone to let them know strain of today, has just how I am I really don't care about being like people kids, no more angle. Be mean about it. But I will tell them leave me the fuck. Fair enough. And I'll tell parents today, sit kids really bad. You know, if you the kind of parents, let your kids talk back to you and. Fuck you fuck you. I hate you. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell parents right now, say, listen before meet you out. I've heard about your kids, I will customs. Put them on a leash. You still want to lunch. Lead. You know, man. It'll be shitty right back to but joke is a perfect, thanks, both of them. I enjoy sit next to Bill bell at the moving. She has me laugh in, man. Yeah, there you go. Chad putting up and look at it wasn't those kids. Roll the clue. Not care all. Hey, you just tune in we just finished talking to Martin sister. But we also gonna have to on the show. We're going to have spider man review Spider-Man far from home. Also. We've got some announced announcements to make for you. Some things that are happening, and we've got the box office top debt, we have an I'm gonna say this within the show, going to get a little bit political for, you know, we talk politics to some people say politics. I'm not really talking about politicians, except for how shitty they are to these kids that they have at the border, keeping them in these unsanitary conditions these, these inhumane conditions. I'm really going to say a lot of shit about that today. So if there's anything that offends you about that. 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He fought aliens for freedom. But other into franchise honor of man far from home, we got a contest on Tuesday, and we used to do this on our last night to bring this back did at one time, it was fun. But what it is, is that we show you. This picture right here now, as you can see this picture has four characters that I'm missing and throughout the day in different post on the site, you have to click on these post and see in the comments section, which one of these characters pops up in as they pop up that character will fill in space. And once we get them all revealed. We will have four people with the name on a list in person who gets drawn out of those four people for a prize will be the winner of that contest, right there. But you gotta look all day for these things. Here's a pop up. So. As an it's a lot of fun. I've seen what characters going there. So it's pretty funny how this works out. And so those will be featured all day throughout the day. And that'll be Tuesday. We're gonna start around, I believe, maybe ten AM with that. And as I say, I don't think I don't think we're going to stop with you never know. It could go all day. You'll know is over when all the blanks field, right there. So there's and people are saying, well, what do I win it, man? Excuse me. That's not up in. That ain't flim that is not like my nose is right? No, it's not. Because everybody settled with their and they just looked. And there was one, I think with Davidson. Where were you going? The longest or are they? Fucking climax. This reveal twist like three words three words. So what you would you go with this right off a guy, clearly? You were right behind. Okay. Okay. In case you in case you didn't hear didn't work. I. I like the way you kill the room in data came. They. Gotta make soup. Biggest fan. Pose. Sorry. Boo. No, we saw. Late. Oh. Oh, yes. Where was the prize the prize the prize people say what do I win Darwin one hundred bucks? You know win a vacation to Europe. Maybe like Spiderman is going on our budgets. Do do I get maybe you know, do I get those marvel checks, perhaps the cameo in the next marvel cinematic universe movie? You know what I wish I could give you all that. But. You to set up rate as t-shirts Timor. Now that is. So we could afford right there. You go far from home on your own budget in that classic black teeth. The way logo. Martin your shirt is priceless, though. We have here, the grain pro for us shirt. Did you know that your brother was talented over there? Sure. Yes, he drew this look at this right here. Did he and well, we England shirt but we got this right here, the green power for us. And just in case. You don't get that, because that's only going to be sold for the month of June. Great job on that, by appreciate this. We have everything else in there. 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Good to have you here, as I said, we got markets, Kilgore markets wants to know why you, why did you why did you on freeing him man on the whole thing he's got going on. He shut down his main Facebook page that started Facebook fan page. Oh, okay. Unfrosted he's just trying to transfer them over. Okay. Okay. So because people's feelings were hurt. I know. He has unfrosted anyone. Okay. Just want to let it's not a personal thing. Yeah. Just letting people know because he people whose feelings were really hurt man that, that he was that they felt like Carlos was not different anymore. Marcus cooled goes one them, the hell y'all putting up in here, duly was going on. Get their beaver. Hunter was. All right. We did not choose that. People are. Duly, zachary. How you doing, Kentucky? Jeremiah. The shogun of DT. Good. See you guys up in here. As I said, we are going to get your system. Talking to. I don't know. I didn't put I didn't discuss it after this. Yeah, I like he your sister, you know, as a man who respects women. Looking at you like nigger on asking? David came down. Ask me now there, what are the rules here wish I? First thing he wanted to know what he could have you should ignore. What are the rules? So I can know how to break them all. System, baby, you good. I see what you handy's. Feeling tape is hand too. Not. What do you do? He'll do this. He knows the tape is I know I know. Oh, let me see. Oh, so coming back on the show. All right. So let's go ahead and get into it with everybody's. Come here to see everybody's coming into here, and let's talk about your boss Spider-Man far from home. Now, everybody out there and I mean everybody it was hardly anybody out there. I mean, maybe maybe you loved maybe you just light. But a lot of people out there enjoyed the hill out of Spider-Man homecoming, you know, they finally gave us a high school, spider, man. It wasn't played thirty year old. Bringing the truth, the truth version of the hero to the big screen some people say out there, but some people ain't buying that some people say, you see Spiderman, I see Tony Stark's bitch. They say not, if anybody said that people's that I've heard people say that they say, man, you know what that ain't spider, man. That's, that's that, that is Tony stars. A little Cabana boy right there because without they say without without Tony stark. What what, what do you got? He can shoot whereas in crawl build. But Tony stark gave him that bad ass suit Tony star game all those gadgets. Tony star gave him all the things that takes to be a superhero, if he didn't have all that he'd be fucking all around the city, he'd be probably dead by this point. He was already Spiderman before. Twenty start got involved. He was he was due in a jumpsuit in a beady. Red and blue. So it was red blue was due to some pajamas, which is leaving cobwebs all over bills. He wasn't doing shit. But once Tony got a hold of and put them in that stock internship program that big brother. Program rate there. They say all right. Now. That's what he became spider, man. But really, he's still just kind of he stood. Tony started boy. He's, he's Tony starts guilt trip, you know. Okay. That's all he is Bob. But now we all know Tony Tony gone he gone, and now spider man gotta go out there and fend for himself and not only the spider man have to go out there and save the world in a big mission without Tony stark. He has to do it and a totally different country. Yes. Dude, over there, in Europe. Martin. You know, some people say, you know, hey. Hey, no big deal for kid. That's already been to space. You know, listen to the country, right? He'll he can handle that ain't no big deal. Let's go ahead. And see if that's the case as we watch the trailer for spider man, far from home, and we'll be back with our review. Everywhere I go I see his face. I don't think Tony would have done what he did, if he didn't know that you're going to be here after. Next. Well, no, I don't have time on doing your jobs pitch fuck. Look at that. Really? Two. He wasn't talking about. We do. Donate money. Tend to write to, but let me can can I can I come up first complaint out here right now? Stop putting sees in trailers that are not in the movie fall asleep. Did I get snapped? No, no, honestly, when you just showed that just now like I don't remember that being in there. Okay. Now, normally I would be okay, just kind of something real shortness of throwaway seeing that, I can see them having to cut for editing. You know, cutting for link or something like that. But this is the coolest thing I know. And I was looking forward to this movie to see how that was going to work into the movie s shit is not in there that ain't no spoiler. That's preparing you for disappointment. I'm kidding. Keep up. Go work because I am going on vacation. Nick fury calling. Really wanna talk to why? Because if you don't talk to him, and I wanna talk. You set Nick fury voicemail. I gotta go do not go sniff fury darts. What's up? We're just talking about the trip. I'm here in Saint Mark. Mt. Really likes me when I first. You're very difficult person to contact spider. Is mr. Could use someone like you on my world you world. Bic is from just not house snap. Tore Holman out dementia. You're seeing. You have a job to do. You're coming with us. Got to be some of those you can use Thor of world catching on available. From the neighborhood Spiderman. Please. You've been to space. Peter. I wanna go back on my trip girl. You I really like Intel her feel. And j I m Spiderman, no, of course. I mean it's kind of obvious. Right. You may not be ready but this is my responsibility, saving the world requires sacrifice. Sometimes people die. Put my friend day. The world needs next arm. You going to step up. Here. Work with finding spider man, spider, man, not Spiderman. Now, I'm gonna tell you a lot of people who kind of squirm a little bit. They can we're going to spoil anything. We're not going to spoil anything for you, and trust me when I say that there's so much going on in this movie, it would be really hard to spoil it. Anyway. They just so much to cover here, but we're not going to spoil anything. Anybody out there at all? Gaza what year say right now? We're not even scratching the surface of what you're probably seeing this film right here. But I will tell you this. I had somebody. And somebody who had seen the trailer. They asked me. I was talking to them. They said in our love that trailer. But, you know. What point do they get into like the no, the series drama with Spiderman, what point they get some of the darker side despite him? And I said, you've not from this earth. What the Mitch did you come from? No. If you go into expect to see. Peter Parker sit on a ledge and have a reflective moment was tears streaming down. His is because he's thinking about his old mentor, Tony stark. You ain't getting it here. This is a comedy. This is a straight out comedy from the first five minutes. This is so much comedy that marvel is making fun of themselves within five minutes then making fun of the adventures in gain. That's still in theaters. They like looking at shit. That's marble saying that about themselves. It's a weird choice to have this right after in game. It is. One of the things that I'm looking at here with this is that. In the film there. This is so much comedy. They're making fun of so many things including themselves, Tony stark Tony hit, body, and even coal yet and laughing at him. Right. Talking about not the characters in the movie. I'm talking about marvel marvel marvel. Don't give a fuck about Tony stark. He's gone and just having a great time at his expense. You would never know that, that he was, the, the character, the guy who, who built all this. It's almost like oh you leave in fine. Once you leave we won't talk about, you know, they would just wait. Would not. He's gone. I couldn't stand him anyway, hated him. It's like it's almost like marvel trying to prove a point, we don't give a fuck about anybody right tomorrow. We'll try to let you like Disney mouse to try to tell you that make you saying look it, I wouldn't miss you give a fuck about. You don't even give shit about twenty start. And he built this. Fuck you in our man. What you got to say. Mama, too. Here. This is you saw me pop this Ross green little while ago, you got a little hinder what I was going to bring up this is this is goofy. Like aunt me. Yeah. That's, that's the whole the whole time watching. I'm thinking this is more like the booties. Yes, this is this is goofy, like like Atma right here. If they actually respected at me. Because because Spiderman, he gets a budget, and he just gets treatment like like men never had. You know he gets to go on vacation for one. Yeah. He gets goal vacation young, and you're on the marble, don't give a fuck about man. Man. He's like. Marveled like the little brother that is that you're forced to take to the party. Up there. And just like yes, my stupid. Little brother, man. You want them here. Because what they need it for Aetna. They need an excuse. Just to go back in time for the bigger, the bigger picture, ran the Rangers. And that's what they do. They make aunt man movies with the change. They have left over for making other movies. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's I hate to say it, but that's, that's what is like, they're they had this level of atman humor here. But on a much bigger scale in what I say, bigger scale, bigger production, big a budget, and a bigger scale within the story. So it's not like it's not like the goofy humored does not something that doesn't play a part of the story here. It's not that they're just doing this straight for laughs. It's not like they're just trying to create a lighthearted movie for the for the family. You have to understand that for one part of the light hearted nature of this movie is because we're done with teenagers, mostly, that's, that's the biggest thing about it. 'cause I saw it as with the when it started off with the first movie with homecoming, it was like yell. We're actually making Spiderman a teenager and it's going to be teenagers that he surrounded by, and it's going to be in that world. And it was like, oh, finally, and it's so much with teenagers kids. They like kids really aren't all that interesting. They haven't really lived a life. So the things that, that motivates them a pretty basic. I mean. For one they go places as you can see that. They're, they don't fully fully fully respect the areas. And they are appreciate it. When the their they got other priorities on them, which is understandable. You know, for one this is as much of a teen romance comedy, a team wrong com as much as it is a superhero. Yes, they're about fifty fifty in here. In, you know. I have two man, this the first time that for for, for Peter Parker. This is the first time that I really didn't want to see him be Spider-Man as much because I just, you know, he'd really do get across. He just wants to be a teenager. I'm just kind of, like, you know, leave him alone. Let them have a good time. You know he's out there. He's experiencing the world for the first time you know, he's an the biggest thing is that he's interested in a girl. Interested in a girl last time, but he didn't get well. I mean he was this close. I mean, pretty much pretty things hang gone. Her dad. What? We, we've learned from these movies is that this Spiderman loves dark me yet. I was going to. The word right? I'm no. 'cause I was, I was going to bring that up 'cause I was gonna play this clip, bringing type. Eight eight dark meat, he license she medium. Doc me, he don't like you said, well done. He's more. He's more into Karen mill chop. No, I was going to bring this right now. This book. If you white don't talk to. Your grandmother. Sorry. Could be friends don't even. He didn't even wall black girls with average names. He won't black name Sinn diet. But he made the thing is he he didn't get that girl, last time, the sick got ruined form. So now he's like, listen, probably even want that girl. Anyway, I kinda wanted this chick the whole time. So this all worked out for the best and you just think it man. This kid don't need all this stress. He just got back from another plan. He just got back from death in let him have just a moment to himself, and that's not the job, not many jobs to be a teenager, and he's doing his best and something else because there was a team that I was looking forward to that. This boileau. Okay. Beat the rush rush out. For us. We got the best seats in the house. Pretty therefore, I have value gut. Dale girl. Hashtag just coming. The new world. You know, more Keiser. No. That's not what I meant at all. I'm messing with you. You're welcome. Pretty gosh. Opera glasses. So cute. Want to go in on a pair? You mean less next to each other. Yeah. Okay. No. I didn't mean that. If you go ahead, I'll grab care. I'm coming. Good him. So say. Like, damn, I never get. No hairs. Cut blocking. Sorry. Parker lead hose. To work. Look at. Fuck is right there. I say this to that. That this, this romance that you see in here. This is me speaking for myself, I think that. Now, this is super hero movie. And I think it gets wrong calm, right? More than actual romance movies are romantic comedy movies out there, because with this whole kind of back and forth flirtation that they got going on with Peter Parker and an im- j, of course, played by dia. You never had this moment where gets stupid. Are they where they, they get into an argument with each other because they simply just didn't communicate? You know there's a there's a. There's a build up here, and it doesn't feel forced and it doesn't feel like they have to have that moment where they have the big fight so that they can get back together, and you can root for them, even more, you know, they, they never do that. Also, gave this romance subplot gives the Zinta a little bit more to do as m j because, you know. She has more to do other than play just the weird chick, which is what that was one note doing the last movie during the last movie, I suppose, I mean, in the last movie, I felt like she was the weird chick, but she she knew what she was doing. She just like Messa when people and this one, I got more like, oh, no. She's on the spectrum. That's what's going on there. Really? Yeah. See that. I just thought like she's kind of a nerdy chick just like they are she just didn't have social skills. Like they didn't. She just the best way she had a smart and some of it was her being a smart as someone was hurt just insisting on inserting something inappropriate. Whereas like nobody was even talking to you. That's, that's okay, what you're doing. You're doing it because you can't help it. I see what's happening. I guess I liked that better than you did this time around. Because I really I mean, maybe because I just felt like she had more. She has more interaction other than just talking shit to Peter parking, and his friends. I will say this too is that. The film touches on something that I do hope they elaborate a little bit later down the line. And that is they go in and they address the aftermath of the battle snap. You know, they and they and they introduce it in a humorous way the fallout from that, you know. Now the movie, they have their own name for it. I'm not gonna say where it is. You'll see when you play the film they have, and it that not everybody calls it the snap. Sure that was something that we call it. That was something that we've been actually snap. Yeah. They've been just call it that a lot of people see that so they have their they had named for different parts of the world. They do. And you know this kind of just doing building for this world post snap in a way that I thought was hinted at goodness movie, and they do it pretty funny, too, man. The funniest thing at the very beginning of the film where they show you how to snap just affected all these kids high school. And of course, being again, high school kids, they, you know, they don't give a fuck. They make fun of it. They're stupid about it. They dump things. They actually have a running joke with the kids in their ages. Because it kids, some kids, come back into the same age kids got older. There's a lot of running jokes about who got uglier, who got cuter. You know. So, you know, I thought that they are know, at some point down the line because they talk about how people's marriages were ruined from this or trying to go back to your old apartment because, as a group, a support group of people who did have place to live because you came back, five years has gone by for us and not your house anymore. Oh, yeah. They put they put fine as a group homes. Put out a halfway house, which is cool because that explains a lot about, I'm not gonna say what? But if you know, the traditional version of aunt, may it, it's a cool lead up to what she is with his younger version that they have, I was the only weird thing is that. Everybody conveniently all our main characters kind of went away at the same time. You know. So that is something that still is. All right. That was that's a little too convenient for what you have with this movie here. But at least addressing that and I like that. What was funny was leading up to movie? Everybody was talking about what about high school, come back. Some of these kids are older yet. What are they going to do about that, as if the people working on these movies are too stupid to think of that? I know we know we work this out. We got it together sit out somewhere. Yeah. The people really get mad about that, too. Oh, you just go brain people back. You explain this bitch, the mood even out yet. Come on. All right. What? I think that in some movies, we're going to have to have this addressed in more serious ways. Can't always laugh this off, no matter how lighthearted marble wants to make this universe as of right now. I like the hands that they gave about it. Sure. No. I like that, too. But I can't help but wish it had a more serious tone with with some of it. Discussing what had happened before. It mean being humorous allows you to just move it out of the way and get on with the story, like, you know, this is a huge, huge thing and a little bit more pay with it would have been fine with a grounded this, but we jumped right into the jokes and jokes jokes jokes jokes. And, and I guess, maybe if I knew that going in or didn't have so much built up before that I would have been fine with it. But I felt like I went from an action movie that was humorous, which kept it fun and enjoyable to something that was. Yeah. Comedy. Get some action going on. And, and the thing is it's coming into it with the jokes. They aren't they aren't like niece, Lapper jokes. They're like, okay, this is a chuckle. That's a laugh was, like, all right. You get your system and then we can start getting serious. And that took a long time to the point where I was, like, all right. I've been kinda waiting around these jokes been that funny is a lot of them have fallen flat. And like you guys kind of bullshit around here. Okay. See mar mad, 'cause I, I, I don't know where you're going to go with the review. But it looks like we split off on things because I kind of knew that already going in that this would be a comedy and the first be setting me up for that. I mean, I just kind of know that the tone of these films, and I'm getting they go in that direction. Then I'm not surprised by that. I will tell you this that, you know. In the movie. And, and this is going back to the trailer what we saw in the trailer. I was looking forward to let me see about can find it. Here we go. I was looking forward to very much very much this. Spiderman, Nick fury team right here. Yeah. And ever since we had Nick hanging out with the avengers long before we got any Spiderman movies, one of my dreams of bringing Spiderman here. What's to see him like actually interact with Nick fury, one day, Nick Beeri calling him for missions and whatnot? And now that has happened. It's not too cold. Now, listen again this. I think we differ. Because it for me it works. It works for me in the movie, you know, because I do like what we saw in the trailer. I did have fun seeing Nick feared being that black uncle, even that black dad put up a no bullshit. I'm just from the neighborhood Spiderman, sir. It's please. You've been to space, but he goes from, you know, that's. You know, that's that black dad, right there like that. But he goes from being he goes from being black daddy, just being a bully, man is like my mentors to the Joe Jackson of superheroes. Hepi spot a man. And we've got a problem lucky has cloth. Beating Peter down that one. Good. You look at them, they even I was just like man leave him alone. And he looked at me. It'd be like say saying, I'd be like, none, man. He was some of this good man, do what you gotta do. Yeah, man he pushes everybody around in this movie. It's kind of a bully. I was thinking. Wow. You know. They just made him from being like these definitely not. No, mental Tom petition. I'm peter. No. I know man. Man, I ain't Tony you. No. I ain't I'm not your daddy. I'm here to get a job done. And that's what I'm here to do. But, like I say they were times when he peed just trying to be kid. He just and he would tell Peter straight up. I don't give a fuck. How will you are? I'm the Anisur to do something right now because you really the only thing that I got and I liked that he didn't really coddle to Peter. I thought that was cool. And if I thought he was getting really, really too pushy to and being too much of a bully at some point in the film next. Explain what's happening with. And I was like, you know what even and that's one of the good things about the movie, the movie's very story oriented to where everything ties back together. There's not anything this movie that happens that is loose in. No. And, and as much as I was telling you how disappointed I was with it. I will say that I enjoyed the second half of the movie much more than the first half because that's when things start to come together. You start finding out real motivations the action kicks in the what's serious about it. And. It's very clever in how what it put together. When you get the reveal it shows how it's pulling from things that happened several movies ago. Yeah. It's another one of those if you've been watching them all you're gonna miss it. Yes. No, no, no. In a way, that's clever. Anna, a humorous wink of the audience like. Yeah. That's remember that you like. All right. That was good. Yeah. They saying why you, they pull some slight hand over here. The right hand left hand fucking around. Living gutter water, you know, they do that they actually pull out these clues what was happening, and that was great about these marvel movies. Listen, I'm gonna tell you. With this film. They're doing things here that we've already seen before. And that's why I don't think that it's going, it's nothing that's going to turn around people who are ready, not into the superhero trained, if you complain about this, and talking about their destroy cinema, and how things can't go to the theaters right now. 'cause no one's got powers wearing a Cape. This is not going to actually do anything to change your mind in. It's not going to do anything to change your mind about blockbusters of some of movies in general. They pull London still picked on and they still blowing up the London bridge. If I was, you know what if I was if, if I was in London just turned out here that should do? I'm gonna give somebody chance to come in here and just miss that up. Because everybody tries to blow that up in every movie for terrorists to aliens, you feel like Tokyo, we look at London. Now, you see, I feel exactly. Shit. London bridge is falling down and stay on. Which just rebuilt it at the movie. You know what if I was? They do the same thing. They go to these big famous sites and whatnot. They're still blowing the popular landmarks so on that in it's nothing that they're even doing new rate here. Now, we'll tell you though. One of the things that, that. Criticize right now. One of the main things in the movie that a lot of people got here me up before, say, anything, you gotta hear me out, and you and you will have to see the movie to actually fully see it through one of the things that will come across as disappointment. When they first walk onto the screen is mysterious people. Oh, no Niamh sit out of anybody expecting him to bring it Jake Jilin hall is mysterious. I will say that, you know what my problem when him is that when he first comes on. He is dry is full. With. Like he could care less about what he's doing in the thing about it, because we look at him and say, look, we know you can act you just don't want to. Because he looked at the time he's looking at why he's saying his line, he's looking at things and looking at holograms like right here. And he got this look on his face. Like, can't believe y'all got me sane. Dumb shit right here. You know, he he'll talk about these and it is it is crazy shit. You know, because he's talking about his world, being destroyed by these elemental in the whole time he's talking about his family his world being bored. He just bored. What are you say? His lines. Just just drab just slow elemental came to my world, and destroyed everything. And there was nothing. We can do about you could give fuck. Maybe even maybe if you cared you would. If you had that attitude the whole kid heating, give fuck is he just seemed generic? Yeah. E speaking, if he means what he says, but there's no extra own and just the feeling of. Okay. I mean if go play it this way, I guess if you try to sound sincere. Okay. Yeah. Because. Yeah, because we like. You deserve your world. If you got that headed to know. Oh, no. They're attacking fuck out. Eighty one anyway. I mean, listen, but it's a stereo, so, you know, the man, you'll believe anything fun is due society technical name. We just call them elemental versions of them exists across mythologies turns out, mid surreal, Thor. A medicine now. I studied physics class myths threats I materialized on earth, many years ago. I was part of the last battalion trying to stop them. All we did was delayed the inevitable they killed my family. Okay. And everybody. There was nothing. We could do you can wake the fuck up is what can do you should've what a jig Jilin robot? Put a beard on an Android. We call them L mental specked, Nick, Nick, Nick Speak. The fuck out. They call the Mela mantles everything. My goodness. But there's a point where he starts to bond with Peter Parker and I gotta tell you he is great as a stereo. He is. He's having he's having a he's having a great time with it. And like I say before you guys start criticizing me and talking about why you hating on Jake. You have to see the movie because it comes around that he really is having a great time with this role. You have to hear our spoiler review that we'll do sometime later next week to really comprehend. What would tell you here? But it really does something happens when he comes around, Peter, where he just wakes up, man. And he braces he embraces. Quinten Beck as stereo he embraces this relationship, where he becomes a new mental and big brother to Peter. There was a there was an article out. There were Jake Dila hall. He says, no, you don't understand. I truly love this kid. At first, I thought, well, that's kinda creepy. But then I saw the movie, and I was like it comes across that he really has formed a bond indices, that they have to gather. Is where I think he's, he's at his best, but as mysterious after the his whole connection with, Peter at that point, he embraces everything in Dila for me. I will see the movie just the movie, again just for him furious, come up here. You're doing. He just he felt bad about snapping really? You guys do have sarcasm on this earth. Right. Maybe if you have some emotional. I couldn't tell. I didn't think I was going to have to save the world. I know that makes me sound like such a jerk. This plan with this girl that I've really liking. How it's all ruined. Here. Good kid. There's a part of me that wants me to tell you just turn around and run away from all this, and then there's another part of me that knows what we're about to fight. What's at stake? I'm glad you're here. Me too, but you worried about your friends. Still putting them danger. Just get them inside and keeping a safe place for just a few hours of. It's really nice. Have somebody to talk to about superheroes stuff, you know. Anytime. Hannah around them. That we had. I think when you talk about the second part of the movie, and I'm not going to speak for you. I'm just going. I'm going to ask you being that you are. Such comic book fan. You know, you love Spiderman, and everything. Was it the second half that felt even more comic book to you? And you could say that's why you liked it because because I tell you why. Because I think for everything that they're doing with the characters in, in this movie, even though they have obviously changed a lot of things. When they get in the second half of the movie it turns into, you know, regardless of us talking about this being a teen rom com it, where it really embraces, the comic book feeling of spider, man. If you've read the comics that have some of these characters. I mean, there are moments feels like the Saturday morning cartoon here Saturday morning cartoon in general, and I mean that the best way this is from spectacular spider, man. Do you've ever watch this show or if you've ever read a comic book with spider, man, and some of the cared feature here, you get the feeling that this is yeah? Big kind of kept it. The spirit of everything should be happening at this moment. Well, I'll say it this way. It's not so much that if felt more I was like wanted to be you got to be more like the comic book the cartoon. It's just it in the first half. There are some action sequences, some, some big ones and get I found them kind of dull like it's mostly mysterious flying around fighting's, elemental shooting whatever gas, he's doing and even the stuff that spider is doing. I was like, you know, normally in these all these marvel movies, they find a way to make the action of what the main characters doing impressive using like whoa. And this is mostly him running up buildings webbing, fallen debris, and just with within it, I was, like, man, he's not t- not showing us anything new that doing thing. That's, that's cool. It's just kind of there. It's. Because like, well, here's where you're supposed to have an action seeing seeing they put one together. And I was like, yeah, there's nothing really getting my blood going. But in the second half, the stakes are higher more cards on the table. So not only is the action better. But it delivers the thing that you were there for, you know, mysteriosly in this movie if you know anything about mysterious from playing the games watching the cartoons reading the comics. It's him using allusions fuck wit spider-man's head and that. Mysterious love people don't know. People even over there like this is about. Don't do. Come on. Come on. Two people man, the people over who all like all, like, wow. Martin. Not go in Norma stereo, mardi. No. Think about this. Let me tell you watch trailers, and you say, I don't wanna know anything that we would not is a businessman UK. People don't understand talking about, right? I'm not talking to call. I'm not talking, but people who John on time, right? I mean that's what I'm saying. Man. You can't. That's why I was saying, we won't put that out there. You can't say these things. Okay. I'm gonna need you to outline what isn't isn't a sport. Don't think about this. When you watch trailers all the time. Are you? Don't watch trailers, you avoid clips, don't want to know anything. Put yourself in a position of people who are like that. You don't wanna know anything about a movie, and if you do a review show, you have to figure out a way around those things, you know. Because that's, that's, that's a big one. Okay. They that's one of the things when they said, do not come out and say anything to people that is one that check Mark. Oh my God. This so many big things that happen in here. There are you have you've left a lot of them out in a lot of which I was going to a lot of people don't, but you had to put yourself in a position of people who go in who probably don't know comics, because I have talked to some people, and they say, I don't know anything about mysterious. I mean, a lot of people just don't know these characters like we do so you can't really put that out there for people. And even if you do some people's still, thankfully, they, they think they might know the character, they don't wanna hear these things they think it might be some to us for the character in their down saying, I will if I have to give you an outline of these things right here to say, but I. I know I'm not trying to put on the spot. But yeah, I, I was in another going to send you a Texan. Yeah. We probably shouldn't say these things. But I thought that, that would kind of be an ominous. Seem like an obvious one. I mean because if people when you said they were holding ears and everything man, you know, it's, it's. Yeah. I'll talk but I'm not. I'm like, no, though yoga. Anyway. Anyway. But. Listen people sticking hit heated ruin then heated ruin anything. It's, it's not ruin. No, it's not ruined. But I would've. Yeah. I mean well. Hard to explain. I get where they're coming from. I getting I get completely coming coming from within but anyway. Tell you what Liam stereo alone. Is anybody else in this movie? Oh, chats on spoiler strikes again. Let me man. If you guys didn't do you can't you have to go into in that people don't that's the thing about it. Man. I feel like a. We'll talk about it. Okay. I won't sport won't ruin anything for anybody won't it won't. But it definitely is something to tell you what it does tell you exactly what it does. I mean, it really is not gonna ruin anything if anybody but for one, you know. You know, something that could be walked around another thing is that it will it will get people who were saying, I don't want to hear any spoilers. They will go in and say fuck they say things that I shouldn't have to hear all the time so they stop people from this back it up and ended out, that's fine probably will. But, you know, it's not that big a deal. Not that I'm not. Let me see here. How about, hey you know what Martin? How about Mary, Jane? She. God damn. And I'm rusty. Just just ruined it. Takes mask off. She's made. I'm sorry. Mary Jane has been the whole. Marissa's told me I like Marissa's till may because. She from, if you've seen the last movie, you know that she, if you watch a trailer you know that she is she knows spider man secret. She knows everything about them, and I think that, that works. Well, those two, you know, she's younger. So even though look she's in a forties late forties. Maybe she's fifty now she still has, I think this really close relationship with, with Peter more than probably sixty seventy five year old woman would. I don't know. I didn't really get get the impression it was more or less. Well, I think the reason why because. One of the things that you never see the older at me do something you can't really talk about is going dates going on dates man. You know, her Marisabel may. In at me, and happy, happy HOGAN, played by Jon Favreau. That's the photo. Do something. That's out there. You jealous. Looking at what you're seeing that big hungry. What do you got that? I ain't got food, man. That was already out there. Yeah. Kind of picked it because that's. Man up. I see what you do. Right. Now that I'll give you with. I've heard that we're guys talk about some girl's boyfriend. He's gaining weight, right? Just because you wanna find you're not going to get him out of there. The but so what? He's still got don't but love this is what I mean by it because she's younger she does things that none. I'm not saying that old woman like aunt may can't go on, especially these days. But, you know, it's, it's kind of funny that Peter's sitting there and he sees it was going on between his Amei and his, his, his, his new kind of foster guardian right now. Whatever like happy HOGAN, and that's looking at them. He just he straight up just saying you fucking my aunt. He wants to know. And I liked it to you that shocking, but with the old at may, she, she was about to marry doctor octopus. She would. Yeah. And he was having to live with that. Got around back then. Girl. I like them. Another nice long arms. You he was stuck between shit. This is my arch enemy, but on this happy what to do. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know man. I like I like what they've done with this. That little bit of a subplot that they have here with the thought that that was actually against the net. Yeah. It's cuteness something like I said, I just feel like this whole thing. I don't maybe just thinking Marissa's till may is cooler. You know, I don't know. But I, I really do like the interactions, but each other. And you're right Martin. The humor does not always work. It doesn't. Definitely. That's one of the things that I've been telling people when they say, do you have any complaints about the film? Yeah. I got a few. Of course. The humor in here, sometimes if feels like an episode of saved by the bell something it does. You know, there's a lot of little jokes and gags that aren't that funny and don't add anything, they got one of my favorite comedians Jabe smoothing here. But most of what he says is not funny. And when it came down to it, I was like he didn't even need to be here. There was okay. So this is weird. The heat in J B, slim, we'll go back to the because they got to adults here, and I liked it. They kind of focus on the teachers, and I thought that that was going to be good. Material to kinda mine, right there for some comedy. But okay, first of all, is just confused having smooth in the movie, not only did he not have to be here. But at one time, they don't acknowledge that j b smooth was actually pita park is driving instructor. Three. Thought it was ten and two to three points today. About hits them. But he is not the same character he lives movie. He could be. It's a regular thing for somebody who teaches England teach gym or driving. Okay. No. I can deal with that. I retract everything I just said, but I thought it was kinda cool that they invest. That's the case. I liked it. They kind of connect characters from other of the media shorts are from past movies Martin star is got Roger got his name is Roger something, Mr. Rogers them. But he, he is he's, he's a they hint that he's not very good at going on field trips. They say they hinted that he actually couldn't save a kid that got killed on our last trip. So I kind of say, man, you know what from that joke, and for, like, damn in that joke and far from I'm sorry, from, from a homecoming, I say, what I wanna see his interaction with these kids more. I wanna see what he does, and almost gets them. Killed. And honestly, they don't do too much with it. And like I was looking forward to the character beam MOVA presence here, too, because that characters actually from another movie from a long time ago that this is a deleted scene, but he was a student college student, and the incredible hulk and believe you actually came right? Do we know each other? No, I was in terrible need. You heard my plea and you came to help me. No. I'm just. No, listen. Shit, you my friend are a hero. Don't hide from your power. The fuck is wrong with you. They those same glasses 'cause I look like giant tangerines. No, I no man. No. They, they've confirmed that, that is the same character. Okay. I thought that that was cool. But it's just a lot of his humor is just he he's he is a teacher from a TV sitcom and sometimes. Too much of the humor is. Yeah. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Didn't bother me too much. But I will give it to you Martin win. It didn't work at fail. Flat. Yeah. Moments was like, wow. You know, if you could be fixed with an edit shave off little time, cut to something quickly. So we don't have to think about the joke. Didn't go over too. Well, just take the joke out. Take it out. Man. In a love a love pita park in the movie. I'm with everybody else out there that says that. That. Tom Holland, is favorite Spiderman at this point. I'm completely with that in. I like the conflict that he's going through in this film, man, you know 'cause. 'cause. Even though, Tony stark is gone, and he's dead. He's everywhere telling Peter. Yeah. You ain't shit. Mere bike telling you going to be me, you and me. And you do feel bad for him because because everybody expects them to live up to be in the next iron man, 'cause he was so close to him. They want spider man to be the next. Dhec savior of the world, especially with everybody gone in different places now but they're moments in here also west. You look at Peter and as much as I like this kid there moments here. I just have to say God damn you stupid. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you are the dumbest genius. I have ever seen, and I don't mind him being dumb, because he's a teenager being naive being naive, but I feel like the movie makes them dumber that he needs to be just so they can keep pushing certain plot elements along. I mean it goes along with that, you know, they'll saved by the bell since abilities where you, you wanna see a smart care and. Yeah, you can go, you can excuse that he's naive. But this something he does or a few things. He he does you like, come on. I mean, even that scene, you showed where he's like. To say the world. But this girl like I'm like. Kid, you have to know that. Hey, man. What thing is, if Italy more important than the other. Yeah. I know you what you want that girl. But. This does require a bit more attention than what, what you're willing, would you trying to give talking about a world with so many things going on in teenage talking about. But what about my likes? No. I I get it. I get that for typical teenager, but Spiderman is all about the power and the responsibility, and it's not pushing that enough. I see because he's he's. It seems like his motivation, isn't his sense of responsibility. It's his sense of Nick fury, yell at me if I don't do it. I like that, because again, this is not the same Spiderman that we that we always see this is this. This is a spider man where you know. They already done up Sesing over being responsible. I think they've kind of gone away from that. A lot of people said they want to see spider man as a kid, and I'm. Obsess over it. But I don't want him to have some of that. I mean without that he's not really Spiderman. Okay. I don't know. I guess I do it seeing. I'll tell you what it is for me. There's been a lot of soup the Indus this is what marvel does. Well, it's been a lot of superhero movies Spiderman movies where they just have not got the character down and believed making this character have real work. We're real world problems. See, that's one of the things that I've always loved by Spiderman when. Yeah. When this stuff going on around the world, he still has these things that happened with him being Peter Parker throughout have this movie, not being Spiderman made that a real character for me, and I haven't seen that in a lot of these movies, especially Spiderman movies, as of late and marble has done that very well though. Yeah. I get what you're saying, and I agree with it for the most part. But also a thing that makes him attractive is right the struggles. He has the real world's struggles that we can we can identify with. But his struggle is just. I want to go to light me while he's on a trip to Europe. It's like for the most part, he's life is grand. And without that, that, that bit of tragedy there. Then it's hard to identify with him as much. It's just like I'm watching this kid at the time of his life. He's got one small problem, and we all can see that it's not really a problem because we know that she's been she's been leaning towards him since the last movie. Yeah. I guess we disagree on that because I enjoy seeing a teen trying to that's the point of the movement trying to a teen trying to balance being a team and wanting to be a teenager. I get it. He wants a normal life. He's been doing a lot of things. You know he's not normal. It's not bad for him to ask for that. But I get it because a lot of people going to be one in the same thing that you're asking for an understand that because you know, that, that again, you're right? That is integral part of spider. Man. I mean, otherwise, he's just another teenager with superpowers. Okay. I definitely more the tune than that. But. Discreet discriminate- are agree to disagree or net. Can't say I can't even say to you. We're not even doing that. We will disagree in disagree. No. We can't agree on anything can't have nice day court. No. On what? The extras in the movie. I don't I didn't like the extras man in the film and talk about the extra. I'm talking about the, the kids who didn't have lines. Peter's classes, so big that not everybody can have a speaking line is so you have these kids behind they're trying to do their best without having a dialogue. And so you know what I'm saying? So there was one kid, who would is one kid with wave cap on. And he had no lines and that brother was just trying to make himself present. He every you remember this airtime. You see what they have to walk to a hotel like, wow. This is nice. If you see the movie, you see, you know what I'm talking about, right? There's things in the movies definitely say that this is on atman level. It might be bigger than that, man. It might be better than that, man. But it has some of the problems that atman had that apply to it here. Sure. Also, a we'll say that the stinger to stingers are after credit scenes in here, and they both are I think I think they're great because again, one actually. That, that is the nest on, just is going to it's going to play a big part in not only what they do with the next Spiderman movie. But possibly if they follow through what they're doing possibly the whole cinematic universe that they have. It's, it's one of those things where throughout this movie I was like, okay, this is a nice one off story. And that stinger, it's a game changer. It put your jaw on the floor. It okay. Now, everything I seen. Wow. What, what are they going to do next is it's like is if this crew got fired and said, all right, what we going to paint this into a corner. Let's go pull out all the. You deal with it. Yeah. No, he's, he's, he's telling the truth, I have not seen a stinger before just make people behind me because when they showed that somebody. But you. Yeah. They there's a big thing that they do with that. And even the, the last thing they do at the end of the movie that you wait for this is the one. I'll tell you. I've been on this whole thing, I've been on, I've been telling people look. These last stingers that they show the last after credit thing they usually been bullshit, been such bullshit. Yeah. You don't have mad. I was just fucking amply. Seen in the tree that you saw the trailer like come on, man. You're killing me here. They don't do anything like that. It's not as big a deal as what they showed the credits. But it does tie back into the story. It it makes you rethink everything you've seen, but also. It makes you wonder what's coming in the next phase of these movies. Yeah. Yeah. Innocent little goofy itself to yeah, it's goofy. But at least it's important. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Most of these with the after credits thing, I've done wished your time watching online later and you know what? It'll change the way if you decide to go see the movie again, it will change the way you look at the film, as a matter of fact, there, were some a few things I had some minor complaints about to watch an stinger I had to go, like, okay I retract those complain. Okay. I'm kind of curious to see what those are. Get around to tell you. Red my review appear, but I, I gotta tell you, man. Like I said with the stinger rate here. What I appreciate everything connects. This hardly any loose ends that are that are that are dangling here. Everything ties into gather a very tight store that they have. I want to stay on the lighter tone. I completely get you understand the light of tone. When you come from seeing in game throw some people off. Think that and this scene people divide it, there's some people who say that. Yeah. You know, I don't know if I was prepared for something as funny as this after in game is some people saying no after in game this exactly what we need is good. Pallet cleanser right, here, we need something a little lighter. Some, some people going to actually feel like. After after endgame. Maybe this isn't taking things serious enough. And some people are going to be like, well, you know, this is a special. Especially when you consider that this is the, this is the end of the space, some people gonna put more weight on saying what you should have probably had a little more dramatic elements to it made a little heavier. I understand that people feel that way. I'll fall into the camp of people where I just enjoyed seeing these characters I like this version of Spiderman, I like what they're doing with him. I think Tom Holland is maybe I'm just endeared to him. But as we mentioned, not everything works in the movie, these lighter movies have always had something where they seem to be not as written as tight are as well as some of the, the biggest films that are just even tad series except maybe ragnarok ragnarok was just as kind as own world, but, nevertheless, man know for me, the more I thought about it, especially some of the performances like with that you have with Samuel Jackson and Jake Jillian hall. I do wanna see this again. So I'm giving us a very low very low full price, probably there. At the peak of a matinee but I'm partial to this person of Spiderman that they have. So that is why enjoyed it so much. You know, some people probably ask you which one's the best one the first movie homecoming this one that may be the first one. But, you know, when it all comes together, seeing them as one continuous story. I liked them equally the same, I think, but also stereo for a long time when these movies. But obviously you've been sending this as you disagree with them points to understand this movie. Just didn't hit me the way the, the first one did. And sure, I, I was disappointed that they decided to go with so much more of a humorous tone to engage. But more disappointed that being that it was such a comedy that the comedy wasn't that strong. I had to sit through a lot of. Rapid fire sometime of jokes that just kind of giggles or just kind of like and some just like you don't stop doing that. And my furthest appointment was the lack of complexity of the story and characters. Yes, the loosens wrapped up because they kept it very simple almost almost too, simple not enough dramatic tension, or or pay. Dow winning does in the second half way it kicks in and it gets good where we have the drama and the action, it's it is so much better. It's, it's really delivering some of the things I wanted to see. So I was happy about that. And as we say, these, these, these stingers are mazing so you gotta stick around for that. But ultimately, what it comes down to is we watch that scene with him just flipping over the fire. It doesn't really do much with that. And I was it was a real like, man, I wish it was there whereas the first movie was so happy at how Willie altogether. Gave it a high full price. This would me was just a flat matinee. It's, it's one where I've seen it, I'm glad I did I got enjoyment out of it, but I'm not inspired to go. Watch it a second time I guess. That's the big difference, too. I do wanna see this a second time there's this things in there, where, you know, again, I think they've done these things to, like, have you see the film and different wave? Two different a second time. I mean possibly, but I don't know. I'm just I mean, we're going on first impressions here, and yeah, maybe when it's on on video, and I watch it again. I might get more endear to it with the with the first ant. Man, I felt that way. Actually, I laughed at enjoy the first ant man, a little bit more than this. And whenever I watch it on TV. I like yeah I still like it a little better. Second man not so much. But I've watch it at home. Like I'm kind of liking it more that could happen with this but for right now. Yeah. It is fun. But I'm good. You know what, man? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, you such big Spiderman fan, and I thought you would enjoy this more thought you would. When people ask me what movie you looking forward to this year. This was the one. They let you down Marne feel like you know, fight a man can't do it for you, then. There's no hope. Oh, yeah. Make me feel. You make me feel bad for like this. I'm happy you enjoyed it. Marne say, you know, if I don't I'm just going to everybody. About it, man. Happy HOGAN, Icee, nothing. No, man. Right. Let me see we got you wanna do the box office real quick. All right. And I'll just. A ride. So. Keeping you out there. Don't know you keep. Oh, okay. Okay. Breaking. Dressed in black. Dynamite, say. Oh. He's actually Nick fury. You did like mob movie. Camera C box office. And then, as I said, you guys. The Chad people saying, you know, you gotta see this. God damn are heard about this people send him isn't a chat Jarrell guest point. You just can't invite jar rule to your festival. He's done it again. Apparently he cursed another festival, man. Somebody's. What you just throw jar fast and just watch it burn. We have a special guest at one of our parties. Should just blow up. Apparently. Apparently he was at a festival, somebody's sitting this right before the house. There's some festival going on one of the headliners and. Cancelled. Right. When people got there like, right? People going through. No. Somebody sent me this story man, 'cause somebody sent me to the Twitter page was happening, and it was just like just one what the fuck after another. But somebody sent me the story it was happening here because Chad is in talking about this. Canary in the coal. Darrelle going to be the next apocalypse? Sick. Rule baby. The ratchet featuring Java. Whereabout. Oh, Jesus, man. This is so funny. Wow. Man. This God does not need this. What is going on with John rule man, because, you know, the last time they did that he put, he's not all kind of tweets articles, it ain't fall, y'all. Like. Go of markets five part to do. See let me. Somebody's sitting this to me, man, what is going on with Jau ruling these festivals out here? C O. So which I got planned for later man, nothing really. Let me see. Yeah. Anybody since that over to read it? I'll I'll get to it. But for right now, let's go ahead and get into, oh, let me go to the other Email where Kevin since the box office. There. It is before I go for my big rant today. Go ahead and get into the top five bucks off his with. Yes. Martin is okay. But tell these people that even though you the top five doesn't mean you always on top. Don't tell him that don't worry. Don't earn about his feelings man and Martin is it. Okay. If we start out with the number five movie, actually don't do it yet. And bring news. Let me see here. Put it right here. All right. All right. Martin we read it for you. What does it top movie at number five? Martin sicker life pets. Fits thirty. Seven million dollars for total gross of one hundred thirty one million to four weeks. And that's on a budget of eighty million dollars. This is the one we've kind of slowly had to backtrack from talking shit on his movie. We're talking about how this thing last how much money you make nothing. You sit around making money. Dog who's laughing? Now. Key mess with me up. We'll Louis CK dig. In front of you biscuit, this, we said down thirty one percent, but still enough to last and stay in the top five. And with this reason why I thought it'd be gone jokes on me. I thought it'd be gone because a Toy Story. Right. And you know what if it's made them much? How about do this? But I go over look at house doing around the world should have done. I hedge aboard Julian day com. Joining Julian green Jake. The great Jake the great. Yeah. One got all these different aliases that mean nothing what you say, Jake. He called me up. I gotta give it to that promote. And he's he called me up. Hey, man. Can I just come home for a little bit and talk about Spiderman you in town now Mellon on Skype do? No phase, man. Monday. Dick, the great of Julian to Julian, the masto anybody want to say about spider, man. Let me see here. Let me see let me see what the what this move right here. You know, they're not even giving me how much it made. Worldwide. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Made a lot of money. But if if it's at one hundred thirty million product, close to two hundred million does point a little bit over. So let's go ahead and get into on next movie Martin, which is, sir. Aladdin. Point four percent, but it's enough to bring in for its total. Domestic force told him next to gross over three hundred million dollars on a budget. One hundred eighty three million they say that if I heard correctly, this is the most. This is the most profitable movie of Willis miss career. Really? That's right. I saw some article going about worldwide, but I saw something maybe as recent 'cause I'm thinking about things like independence day, that nature, maybe that Justin for inflation. You know, I don't know that they would not be adjusted for inflation. The case within would be higher. Yeah. But I don't know if it's like one of his best review movies, but. This is let me see here. Yeah. They say that, you know with this even down thirty percent is still doing. Great man is the one that they thought was going to do well, because everybody was talking about how bad for came out the gator about how bad Will Smith was everybody thought he was gonna be the one to bring it down. Yeah. Turns out, he's the one that actually what it is. Just can't kept him not blue most of the time. Yeah. They did. They actually did that came paint. You don't take off. We just got done paying and blew out the film, cut that. Oh, let me see here. I have not seen the top five so Martin, what is the number three? Oh, it's about another Brown yesterday. Yes, it is. Dollars. Million. This is. This is up there with movies, like feel pretty and isn't it? Romantic. In not one of Danny Boyle highest grossing films as out there. But they say that before this is done, even though, you know. It had a strong opening weekend this predicted not to go too much pass. What is budget is right here? Twenty six say this probably going to be getting before it's done especially since debuted at third. Probably gonna end up someone in the twenty seven million dollar range for the run, which is. Good. What'd you say, get their money back? They were they projecting it to be smaller. Yeah. Yeah, they were. And then they put a lot on this, too. They had all these screenings and. Screens was three. Yeah. At least three screenings here. Yeah. Yeah. So don't expect this I mean we've been saying this for the longest time, but don't expect us to lessen the theater, but who knows the way things are going to might be six weeks from now. Let's do the, the Queen movie, and then the Elton John and now the Beatles David Bowie cartoon coming up next. You know what they would be prompt for that because he's dead. Yeah. You know what I'm going to be spreading are working on David boy, movie at this moment, when we go, I was, I was just I would think that the moment that he was gonna be put the trailer together. He does. Let's go ahead and get into this is what I'm surprised by right here. Let's get in to the number two movie. Marne Annabel comes home. Let's see here. Not one of the big openings for this conjuring universe. Right. Does that include the other two Annabel's? Yeah. This is. Six enter into the franchise, of course, is the third one Annabel movies. Yeah. Say that this is not track. It is one of the most popular films for movies, a lot of people. They have a low cinema scores for those. This got a b minus, we usually somebody's contra move come out with a lot of a much larger ranking with the cinema score. So, yeah, this is. I don't know what they expect us to do. Near the end because right now, let's say you know. You know, I think people say, like yesterday where it'll gain some traction, but not much is expected to go too much passes budget. People saying that this might go just a little bit pass thirty million dollar budget right there. Let's go ahead and get into the number one movie. Martin once again, Toy Story, four was this, a second weekend for Toy Story. With this Bill rate here. Did they were talking about how much disappointment even though it's gone way passes budget right now but I can see what they're saying now because at this point, I guess, with other Pixar movies and other some of the most popular Pixar movies. They would have been way past that right now, the wouldn't have dropped so much. They said they were predicted a drop more in the forties, and that the would've it'd be like, more of a sixty four million dollar gross this weekend. I mean gross. Well, we can gross rather than fifty eight million. So you think this would probably make this the last one? I mean it's still doing pretty well. Yeah, it ain't enough to say, let's ended would you say that the budget trailing off are not the budget, but the gross trillon off from the other movies that this? That this makes them think like okay, you know, now, this is franchises had is run. Maybe it's time to slow down, but you'd also have to look at overall, it just looks like nobody was really getting excited to go to the movies this week, really. You think that's way it is. Because summer has been kind of slow. Yeah. I think that, you know. The way a previous movie will affect the current movie, the last movie was bad. If the next movie is good, people still burned at the last one and don't really rush out to see that good when that sort of thing, that's happening globally with the summer general, everybody's going to the movies and what they're saying is either letdown or just some bullshit. People just getting site about going to the movies much anymore, and it's just box office in general everybody is being affected and his trailing off. Okay. I can I can definitely see that. So you think that's an effect of the summer, not having a strong start in games already done. The follow ups have not only nobody expected the follow of, to actually do the same kind excitement of business hype that in game does. But they were major disappointments to. Yes, I think if Toy Story hit come out right after game. It will be doing a lot better now. And I got a question for you. That's good. Very good point. Now, let's say that Toy Story came out right after game in like gave it a couple of weeks. And then it came out. And so people have in game Toy Story is great people love. Do you think that it would have had an effect on some of these other movies, even though we don't like them and not very good? Do you think people would have been I don't know? Maybe in a better mood to go. See these other films are not as good. Yeah. They'd have been more hyped about man. What a great summer. This is to go. See movies, nice. Let's go see another one. All right. Well. Maybe it wasn't everything. But next one, that'll be it. Yeah. But it's been a lot of getting just Burton let down that is true. And it's more contributes to that, that feeling that Malays in that, like, we could just stay home watch a lot of good stuff that's already TV. That's finally come the video that we missed theatre last time we aren't spending one hundred dollars for all of us AM pop. And bullshit food to go along with it. No, no people by talking theater. And it's been my point the whole time, you know, this whole thing of, like, why pay all this money for media because what's one mediocre movie after another people realize wait a minute. How much paying for moving? And I'm bringing these Dan kids to movie. I don't even wanna see, you know. Yeah, I get. It's worse to. Yeah. You take your kids to a movie that you don't wanna see. And you pay too much money. It's worse to go see something that you've been looking forward to. And then it lets you down. It's, it's a mediocre any like shit. I've got all worked up nothing. Yeah. How many times do this to myself? Lucie is not gonna let me kick that football. Up put up done them. The math and is like, like, when I've been really hungry and stuff in a movie. Dayton, thought. Okay. Now I see people bringing families numb. I should I could've put it down payment, a car. It's going. Yeah, it's a lot of money man by snacks and want to see a movie. I mean, your, your choice is all right. I'm either going to spin. I'm not going to get my brakes fix because I'm got to buy food snacks, all my kids, or I gotta be that asshole dad who tells you. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Kids shit their pants. I'm going to see in game. You bet again, that titty milk. And former we gonna see Spiderman. Let me see. All right. So this, this is the point where y'all y'all need to probably go. All right. No, not you not. You sir. Oh, you go to the bathroom. Okay. You know what, Dan? Japan's. Damn you going to going to rate, Marlin. Oh, okay. So we'll wait for mardi getting don't need to know. I actually got some water here. Hey, you wanna come up? What? Come on. And this both of you come on big time for you Martin. You want to review for yesterday. Yeah. Go in. Let me do that for how you doing so, well, man, are you. I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Spiderman, no review. Thank you. Thank you. Spoiler right? How the movies being marketed? That was not indicate in the marketing. So yes, that'd be a spoiler. Because people don't know ninety nine percent of people don't know whom street is. Yeah. That's all that's all I was saying, I understood filled. Because I'm mad over that he put his put he put his fist in his ears. Yeah. This is bad as dark Phoenix book. No nobody gave a fuck Dr. Spoil dark vein all day people like the fact that it exists. Let me see here. Let me see what the chats doing what are they saying? Oh, I you know, it's interesting. You bring up Toy Story. The other thing is I think with that is the fact that no one was asking for that sequel in the market for it was not good. No. You make a great point the marketing for that wasn't. I should called you for the box. This is what I want to do for the marketing for that was not good at all. There was no interest in that we put a videos for the trailer talks. Yeah. And don't care, man. They will low no talking about. It's a movies. Actually really good. Probably my second favor of the franchise. Great film, really loved it. I loved it. Yeah, we're gonna bring you up a little bit. I'm willing to Martin's back. How you doing, sir? Dave in the bathroom. He got a right. Maybe live. Maybe went home. I don't know. Okay. Oh, let me see. Let's see. We got here. Okay. Somebody's, let me know about this, this meal. That's what was called vessel people that bought tickets for best Ville, where at the gate for hours, waiting again only be told at the last minute that it was canceled their videos of the crowd rushing to the gate and getting pushed back by cops and dogs. Dan pushing. Use them civil rights. Put on hold. See some people pay thousands of dollars. That's feel best Bill. Yeah. Shit. See. And you'll piss off millennials with lots of disposable income. David's leaving. I think he's still your car. Today become with you. Houston. Meeting. So that's a no. Yeah. Yes. Him out the car are your car. Oh, yes. I'm sure he's just going to fill it up and bring it back. Vest, Ville thing. I don't know. Man, you're on top of things with the kids, you know about this happened today. Like they didn't know about it. Say real quick just to go back box office. Wow. Child's play bombed pretty badly. I didn't hear them more. This thing right here. Pretty soon gonna call jar rule to clear room. Sit at bars to bring everybody. What is it is? John ROY is a disaster. Rule or something you don't want at your next. This is crazy, man. Anyway. My man here. He went to go see yesterday. So give us you bring up the trailer. Oh, right today. Okay. Don't start. That crazy. All right. Let me. Just give a quick review. The trailer. Right. Exactly. Thank you. More. Shortchange you probably specked. Thank you. All right. So Jake over here, you know, Jacob training to be credit can mother sent him here, so that he could actually train them to the best. Who's that? Of course me. She knows good thing. She sees him. I want you to show the progress that you've made by giving us updates which reviews when you go see yesterday with us then go and give us a quick review. And we've been giving him feedback throughout these view. So got on. No yesterday. We just talking about open up number three in the box office here. It's the one where, of course, guy wakes up in the Beatles and say, well, you know what? That's okay because I can actually be the new bills out there. This is my loss, geic. If as is a miracle. What happened? Lectures, e flick of all over the world. Yes. A president trouble seem so far. Now looks the hits. Mccartney wrote the Beatles. Hey. Jake. You saw this with me. I did, sir. So Martin to Martin was there. I guess you send me the next year. Yesterday. Jay key was so fun. So Jake what you think about it enough. I remember I gave it a little men. You gave it a rental right? So Jake what you think about this. I'm probably towards you. I thought it was cute movie. I didn't think it was all perfect. My I have three big complaints. The first one is the last ten minutes is painfully predictable like you and I were sitting next Trevor, and I was just whispering. I self I'm like this is going to happen. Yeah. This is going to happen yet. This camera. Don't be the hotel. Prison buns. A guy who? And love story supply. I think it's frustrating. But what really helps me like this movie is a two leads him by towels at the guy's name. Hamish patel. And lily James really thought they give great performances and I bought their relationship, and I'm like, yes, these people are really childhood friends. They've had this really long relationship. I like his friend. What's his name Zach or rocky rocky sorry, rocky, twenty and share? And he was really funny. Actually, I use a pretty good actor. I love that scene where he's like, who would see who can write the better song, although it's pretty funny and Richard Kurds, he's writing the screenplay love actually Four, Weddings and funeral. I enjoyed it, but you're right. There are things are painfully predictable, but I just I just looked at performances in this movie. I really did. I thought to myself, these actors are really giving it all. And they're making a dialogue seem better than it actually is as her Danny Boyle. There's nothing really impressive about his direction besides concert sings, but I find it was bind direction overall I enjoyed it. There was never really invite was frustrated. Points. I was still entertained based on the actor's performances. There was never really part where I said, the words, I'll fuck this movie I would say in Jacob Jacob. Opening credits. This is the movie you take your mom or girl to get a low met name. Okay. You know what improved I would only this one? I only have one complain only have one recommendation. Oh, yeah. Okay. So if you do a review this very short light this repetition. You know, one of the things you said, very often was. Performance forces probably mentioned three. Yeah. That's all I would do. Thank you. Help that you like the movie too, because when something like, like Martin right in, man. Fucking. Thank you. Thank you appreciate that. Oh, Chris how're you doing? Chris, Chris Harman Herman will talk last night. Man. Finished doing twitch. Oh, and we were talking about this situation going on. Now, this is where people, I'm, I'm. Essay, this last normal, I didn't want to bring it up. But I just. I was very depressed this weekend all weekend about these kids. Zagreb kids being held at the border under these inhumane conditions going jump into it just tell people right now again. I think it's important here. Even if you feel like you might disagree with me, but I really think that you should at least listen to some of this because this is. This. This is. This is not only a heartbreaking tragedy is horrible, the way the treatment Nolan human beings, but children, man, but as I said, I'm not gonna hold back on this. So if you feel like you're going to be offended then bombings, please, go don't run late anyway. But I would not feel right. If I denied at least say something about this. In. Gone. Thank you. Still here, appreciate you sticking around getting any point disappoint you or make you angry or you disagreed. Free to go at anytime. Chad right here. So anyway. This weekend. And I feel I feel really bad just for even even smiling because, you know why we're all out here in join us elves join Spanish, the world's out here pepper not pets. Having a good time living lives. You know, there's always some human suffering going on. We know but I mean I'm in win Texas. We're very close to what's happening. This is very close to home for us. And of course I'm talking about. This dire humanitarian crisis that is occurring at the border, where the keeping immigrant children as we found out from Minna reports, you know, you thought it was bad, that they kept these kids in cages, like got them pound animals. They're being not only the being kept this way but the being kept conditions where the not even being provided soap. Toothbrushes not even provided food these children. Are these these children are getting sick too and the gin the cold flu and they got on? They have nothing to blow their nose on a coveted home. They'll mucus because they adjust not given any sanitary products at all to, to use and. There's an I'm not gonna show this. But I've it's not only that people have been cold to this. I've been really shocked and I'm not going to put on put up some of the comments that have been out. I'm not gonna put up the pictures, but you know, there are people who are dying to cross the border to get here. Their children who had dying in their parents arms from drowning off from heat exhaustion. And there are so many people out there and fuck you, if you want these people, I'm just going to hold him back a harsh words that I can for you. If you are that kind of shitty person man, see so many people who say, you know, not just not just the, the old. Well, if they just didn't break the law not cross over, then they wouldn't have happened. But people kind of like fuck them they shouldn't be here, anyway, you know, in for those of you, even even with your light is complaints. You. I have some empathy a little bit. You don't know what kind of conditions causing people to flee. You know, when your life is remotely. Good. Why are you even able to enjoy beer? You know you. You've never been to what these people have been understand. If you say, hey, listen. Yeah. We have to have some sort of means of border control understand that. Well, we need to this is a situation that we got somehow figure out for you to sit up there and say that you call people dying without knowing the harsh shifts that they've been through and makes you an extremely shitty person. I'm not afraid to tell somebody that fucking face right now. We were talking about this last night. You got anything to add to know covering a humanitarian crisis on the border and multiple detention facilities around the country. They've just they've taken so many and so many shown that they're not gonna be turning around. They're still have that separation policy even though they said that the reverse children are still separated. Parents base unclear circumstances. You know, so don't again, there is a lot of misinformation that and that's a big part of this whole thing. It's like all these different people saying different things, and people are confused about what deterrent to right now, just to get the basic facts, but what's going on? That's frustrating administration that lies the media. That's that's bit. Twenty one match. It is going to sell and death was incredibly frustrating about this entire situation and you politicians that are trying exploited for themselves, which is also critically manipulative. And disappointing. Yes. Yeah. Did you want to say sorry? Well, a lot of people here when, when people whenever you hear somebody saying, well, I'm sorry, but this is the law. It's always people who tout that stick into the laws of the rules, people who are already benefiting from that. And it's never somebody who doesn't benefit from it. Who, who says? No. You gotta do it this way. We understand. Yes, these these when these laws created, they are usually meant to benefit some people over. It is always a skew to them. And it's easy to sit there and say that. And if you know anything about what these people go through the way, they're dying to get over here. Think about what is over there for them that they would they would put them at that point, if, if you lived in Detroit, and people getting murdered out in street every day, and you like I gotta get my family out of here, and you got told non sorry, you're born there, you gotta stay you wouldn't put up with that. That would be unheard of. Yeah. Exactly. I don't wanna I don't wanna make this. I don't want to go into the issues of pro pro-life pro-choice, but I'll tell you something, especially since this, this abortion ban is happening Alabel. Yeah. This whole thing with these kids being in this condition, and in people so heavy on. Abortion and being pro-life with abortion. You've fuck is hypocrites, man. You fucking politicians who I was talking about the rights of the child of the unborn child. You talked about the unborn child because a child is too hard to take care of care very much about fetuses. Yeah. But don't give a shit out actually because you don't have to have any responsibilities for a born child is either talk about because. Doc here. Ain't gotta do anything, but I'm gonna tell you some while willing to subject matter. I mean, you know, you talking about the unborn child with this children. Right. Their children who are here on this planet right now. Suffering, you ain't got shit to say about in fact, you do a for them being those conditions in that is a very critical stance to take on, and I'm gonna tell you something, man. All these people who are talking about. And I'm just looking at while while I'm here all these people like these, these white men men in Alabama talking about how for even rape. The child should be born. Let me tell you something with under the conditions of rape. We'll tell you something. Let the lighter skinned black do have consensual sex with their daughter and impregnate them. They have an abortion delivered to their doorstep. They trip trip down the Steph to get rid of this. They'd be closet looking straight co hang, they could find. And change labor. Bullshit. Yeah. They don't they don't care until happens to them. Yeah. Situation. Like, that's how that always changes. Well, my daughter would never fucking black. Nothing nothing to worry about there. You know, these that don't, don't let this fool you, man. Yeah. Don't, don't let this fool you at all in, in. That is the biggest thing all these people talking about, you know, the life of children, family values life is precious is precious, when you don't have to deal with straight on the concept when his here, and you have to deal with it in you have people, and I'm gonna tell you, something when his here and you don't you don't have to deal with our. It's a shade of color that's less value to you, then you don't give a fun. I can I can almost tell you that they talk about abortion. There's one guy said, I forgot who was. He said, every time I look at these children's is I see a future MS thirteen member. And don't, don't even think this somebody's people not only hypocritical about abortions, but some even thank like shit. Path. These kids were bored at they would have to be in this situation. Dehumanizing them at that at this point. Well, we already knew that they didn't give a shit about kids because of how lax the are or, or how staunch about not controlling guns when kids being gunned down at schools. That is very true man. Yeah. I mean they've already shown their colors. Life is precious when money involved. Are they don't look like these kids? A lot of people down on this chick right here. Alexandra. Alexandria, Cossio, Cortes, because what they talking about with her is like, you know, start using his term concentration camps. But what these people in and maybe that's a steep. Comparison, I'll give you that, but. This is how that shit starts. This is how fascism starts. It's more like than different exactly. This is the roots people think fascism than in the Russa. Fascism starts with some dude on a podium, screaming at people and talking about, you know, how he wants to dominate and get rid of these people. What not know the roots fascism? Not that the roots fascism when people go on with their lives in don't don't acknowledge when right underneath them. There are human rights violations happening continuously. That was that was happening in Europe. Jews be rounded up way before they started being put into the to the ovens way before they start getting bullets to their heads. They would be rounded up and treat light treated like second class citizens in the human rights taken away, what the rest of the world was going about his business. And what's the next thing that happened, you get some fuck who's up there, because he got away with this for so long? It was gradually gradually. Normalized? Yeah. And we grew up a whole lives with the idea like man. How could the Germans be so stupid or evil to let this happen? And now and these last couple of years, we got to go like, oh, I guess we can't have that position anymore. Sure. I'm sorry. I was gonna say it's also bent on a built on societal resentment that these things have been around for so long time hatred towards Jews always there person to capitalize on that, and they say, like it's all their fault in. That's how they rise, the power, this is acknowledged, but people I can kind of get it with people like us because, you know, we don't see it all the time. It's not their front of us. We're not saying, right. That all but we are not. I'm not saying right to have that attitude, but we're not there looking at it involved with it, so I could understand if somebody doesn't really get the gravity of the situation. But there, there are dolts, who know exactly what's happening with this shit, and they not only let it happen. But they try to justify those Trump. Justice department lawyer that went in front. Of. Of a of judges, and try to kind of validate, what was going on when this bitch, exactly. The fuck was happening with these kids with an everybody's common understanding that, you know, if you don't have the toothbrush, if you don't have. So if you don't have a blanket, it's not safe and wouldn't everybody agreed to that. Do you agree to that? I think it's I think those are there's fair reason to find that those things may be part of statements. Looking field fuck this bitch for real. This is listen, y'all. This is this is why this bothered me because seriously I mean for one and I'm gonna put myself in this category, too. I just feel hopeless cause I don't know what to do about this. I was talking to you about it saying what could what could we do? You know what can somebody let me know what I mean? I just don't like that. I did give him money. But I will if it means bringing something to this to help it usually, I know you can't because obviously people have been sending donations and products to these detention facilities have been turned away because they say the reasons, well, they might have listened materials, and then we can accept these. That's what they're saying. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a policy that they've instituted. So the thing is the only way that it can be you can make an impact is just bring attention to it is talk about it is doing something like this. That's the only way because. I'm sure there are foundations organizations that do help immigrant families make your transition over to bring awareness to this. But the most important thing right now is just talking about it. Keep it in the public space. Make sure it's in the cultural zeitgeist right now because so often it's Nord or manipulated for various means. And that's the frustrating thing. I always find about these types of situations. I mean you're probably right. But my fear is that if people talk about it, they'll go like, well, I talked about it. So I feel pretty Bush, though, that they do not talk about it, not me not at all. But this talking, and then there's action. And guess we should all talk about it. So with the goal of, we're gonna talk about it, and we're going to look at what can we actually do? Well, that's what I'm asking. You know, I mean like this nothing can be done because that no, you're right. But I'm just saying there's any look beyond with him on charities, because it's missile charities, you don't what to do with you just don't know hundred dollars and three dollars actually goes to the people who need it. Yeah. I don't know what happened with them money. I seem like us and ask about the grocery store. They ask they ask you to give money this children's no not that I don't know what you doing what I won know what to do with stuff. They hit 'cause I'm so talking angry about this shit, man. These these, these are not these adult children and adults. No was happening, and I never was the kind of person to sit back and say that 'cause I always don't don't, don't treat these people who support Trump badly. Don't turn them at a restaurants. Don't look at them and say anything to them, but fuck you met the point right now, and it's not just people voted for Trump, but you fucking Christmas. Really bothered me right now I'm not talking. About all talk about any religious person out there, the whole thing. If you asked me bullshit, but really, you fucking Christians in this country. Talk about all these values that you have how much children, how much children precious. And when you see something like this, you don't say shit, and I'm tired of you using religion when it's convenient for you to point now what needs to be talked about a unique to be held to task because you always talking about love, love, love fucking lug your neighbor. Love is the key. God is love. But then you talk about hate and you support it. And you actually you don't it when it's when is? When it benefits, you that people right now bringing this up because this attitude can easily be brought to these immigrants to which some of the board because they want to shoot a Mexican, but there are people out there right now who hold his sermons who's saying what God is love. But God hates just as well. And if that's what it takes to kill these gay people, the necessarily, what we're going to do. We have some breaking news wanna get you up to date on. We're learning about an anti gay sermon delivered by a now. Former Knox county sheriff's detective. He's also a pastor at a local church, Grayson Fritz in the sermon that has posted online saying at one point, quote, God has instilled the power of civil government to send the police in twenty nineteen out to these LGBT freaks and arrest them and have a trial for them. And if they are convicted they are to be put to death, you know, something I'm not talking about all Christians. When I say this, of course, I'm not talking about religion, I believe what I believe you believe what you believe, but God, dammit, you need to start hold. Up to your values. Stop twisting nesh it around when it's convenient for you. You know, it was one thing you will be a hypocrite about saying, how God doesn't want you to do this God, doesn't want you do that. But you out there fucking drinking every other weekend, actually choice. Whatever you want to bend the rules fund fuck you. But when it comes to people in their human, the basic human rights, especially with children. If you fucking love children, that much help him out, stop fucking them, and acknowledged that these that right now at this moment, then not only suffering dying in quick turn your head and ignored, it are trying to validate it when it's convenient for you get a fuck if you ain't give a fuck if you mad because you think I'm talking about religion I'm not pay. If you Christian used to live up to those values, that's fine. But the so many Christians out there, that don't. And you could give a fuck about kids man, give a fuck about kids, because why it's too inconvenient for you. God was here right now. God would look at your face and say fuck. You man. A you. The fuck out of here winning. Fucking what? On the Bill has enough. You're gonna get the Bill that they just passed on the border. They took away the accountability for the services where children are dying, or of course they did. Of course they did. It took away on this Bill. They took away the count of build it for these kids, suffering. Of course, they did you know, this going to do that, because this shitty people man, I don't care. I'm not trying to make this about partisan issue at all fuck, if you're Republican democrat. But if you back this up. You are a horrible person. You, you all how human being in the fact that Trump pushed this shit, and not I don't fucking like this dude and fucking like anybody likes him. But I mean. We know what he's gonna do. We know what he's about. This is why I say fuck the flag book, the national anthem fuck any kind of symbol of patriotism, any country wherever is not about those things about the people that changed. This country that you fight for fighting for land, you're fighting for the people who live there. Yeah. Give a fuck about any flag out there. Never a never stipple. What is opposed to be right now? You send the bony do the pledge of allegiance. Salute the flag and all that kind of shit and people suffering in this country that live here fuck off with all that do that. People don't like to hear the truth about these things, they hate here, nesh it. That's why you hold him back on this gave a fuck about your feelings right now. There's a cartoonist in Canada, who got fired from the newspaper because he did a cartoon where it showed he drew the that, that, that, that was a mother wasn't with a father father had died of that would draw all the one is withdrawn. And he drew this cartoon. And it's it has Trump look at the body's going through the swamp where they drown in golf cart. He's like demand if I play through. And then some people I mean why are you saying because you're? The point the point is right there. Now I heard this newspaper ties to merica. So probably political when he pulled it out. But fuck you it makes you uncomfortable about, you know that's drawing. Think about the real shit that made that happened the first place. And think about the calluses says some people have disregard for those real human shows, how effective it is a political cartoon. Yes, what is supposed to do. Happens that somehow that cartoon is more -fensive than the actual people drowning. Yes. Exactly. Fuck out here with this man start living up to your Baillieu battle. What starved using just a small just a small, since the empathy for was happening here? I everybody knows anything that we can do it all. Let me know I'm not just talking just to hear myself talk. You know, I'm not doing this entertainment. I'm just I felt shitty all week. I couldn't even Joe myself after time thinking about this. This is this is. This is horrible man. Just keep in mind, these odd that who run on a platform of God. In the values of America, and the values of children and family. Knows how the ship works out when it has it doesn't. Either when it has something to do with getting votes because that's the way it is. Trump is he's instituted this. For the things that he's done for immigration has made. This happened is the thing that's harm these kids out here and he's only doing it for boats. And you'll fallen Ford he's playing on resentments that were already there. Yeah. We started camping and another thing is that against being fucking hypocrites, people really lucked children and care about the ones actually fucking exist right now to ones that I hear talking about the ones even here yet, that's too hard, that's hard. I mean items Dan abortion. I'm not I'm not like some pro choice, who doesn't understand what people come in from an abortion, but fuck, man, you know, the kids that are here that actually here, the need help, but that's hard you know what do you do with those here? Are we gotta find room for I mean, if they could vote, maybe we take yes? What? Seal, you run out. Say. You got something to say camera time. Okay. All right. One of the major things, especially as donations to organizations like ACO, you is the big one because they're the ones helping people lawyer up because one of the big things, especially when we had the migrant caravan Christ. They're talking about. Under the law. You cannot apply for asylum until you're here. So there is no law being broken by people coming here to seek asylum. When they said they should have come here illegally. That's not coming here legally, most of the detentions. Yeah. Portends at all time high, but those border detentions are occurring at checkpoints people turning themselves in so they can do this so companies like that one of the big things is because of how the process is here. They're getting stuck there in limbo. Because there's too many people in not enough lawyers to handle this process. I'll tell you. Aco ACL L, you be active in everything. And, you know, I mean, maybe they need help us fun, but. I just I just feel very hopeless. Bring everything down. But nobody wanna hear this shit in the middle of the show, so you want he'll about fucking spider man, and all that. Shit spiderman. Booking real. Okay. He ain't gonna handle problems. All right. You'll be fine. Fucking fine, sick people. I'm sick of people crying over shit that only madman crowded celebrity chronic fuck, and movies. What people don't even exist and you see this. You just turn your head. It should be turned away from these people as point the finger. We all do our do I thing where we don't we don't want to be bothered with this. We don't we don't want to have a lousy -rupt it in a rough that we don't want to have an entertainment or -rupt it. You know, we, we, we want we always want to escape, you keep people, keep despondent attitude you get shit like Trump really going in there and turn the shit into dictatorship because he's already trying to do that. He's already saying. I don't know if I'm going to leave the White House, if I voted out all these do win the next election. And he can do irreparable damage, and he will he will win the next election. I'm telling you that right now democratic field is not good. No, I had again, not gonna like what I have to say. But you better get ready to do something, because he's gonna win the next election because people talking about it should be talking about healthcare right now. They should be talking about the should be Rick everything. He's done wrong and countering. I'm good for reparations can come in and under some under some kind of organized organized way of our, our set of needs that people haven't communities that's just noise right now. I mean, honestly, that's not even the top twenty concerns. Yeah, I'm sorry, y'all as a black person you hate me for saying this, you're gonna hate me for saying this, there is not there's not a sick guideline for what reparations are. I don't know what it is that we're trying to do by saying. But if we start saying this right now before the elections, you going, fucking lose, man. I'm not even by reparations in a way that yeah, maybe we should talk about it. Maybe some kind of way to like people reparation. They talk about oh, you know what you can do gave everybody. Check. No, that's unrealistic may the talking about, you know, boosting communities in certain ways, boosting education education for people who don't understand what made communities like I get it. But you don't handle fucking guide last Ford. Still talking about you keep talking about these reparations gonna make fucking white people, man. One vote for anybody except Trump either. It's always how you talk about how you present the subject, and that's just not the way right now. That's not the way in which you wanna present it. And I think that's and how the media's asking these questions to feel this kind of shirt because this, this makes this, this makes people tuning because they're going to get on raged about it. People feel different way about that particular reparations. Yeah. That's that's why we get where we are. The base show, people's sense of what is and isn't fair. Yes. And everybody's since I tell you, learn when you have kids is that. Yeah, they will argue with you about what you did isn't fair. And you realize I have to do this for each person. What's fair for you is not what we're gonna work for. You is not gonna work for this person. And my, my goal of fair is what is the most harmonious for everyone. And of course. Yes, when you present what your idea fair, I can clearly see the your idea? Fair is what works best for you. Not what works best for everybody. I'm not giving up on the on the Democrats. Making some leeway. I mean we're just starting right now. I don't give fuck even Republican comes in and makes sense gets gets Trump desperate, pointing the buck get fucked good. Trump, the fuck outta Danielle wake up, man. It was one thing he came in and he was with all the lies that he had all the scandals. But now, people fucking dying man because of him. Do something. And it was always the idea that well he's the president. He's only had so much power. And that's been proven true. I mean one positive about Trump is he has played out all the holes in the system. So it's up to whoever comes in next plugging that up and Sanders berries. Bernie Sanders is probably Bernie Sanders that he has high aspirations hearts in the right place in good. He's talking about paying everybody's students student debts student loan. I just wanted to how that's going to happen. That's biggest problem all of this kind of these grand ideas, they never explained explain your platform. How are you going to do it? And they never do that was like Trump talking about the wall. Exactly. Exactly, exactly said for people got gender towards it. Yes, I don't know. Man. There you go. I told yoga Gough on on that. And I don't give a fuck about anybody who feels this way. Gets upset about me when I said, especially and I'm putting it out there heart. I'm not against Christians against the ones who hit who are hypocrites into the lot out there. You fucking Christians need to get shipped together. I'll tell you that right now. I don't give a fuck if there's somebody if Yunus studio right now get up and walk out getting mad about that y'all got to get your shit together because a lot of y'all policy is one that led up to what we have right now, especially fundamentalists. I don't wanna hear your shit. Don't come to my house talking to me about God get Jochen together because you'll houses just dirty right now. Fuck you. Like a go fuck yourself anyway. What time is gone? We out here. I'm going gonna reach them emails, but I had get that off much what you should you should in with an Email. You don't Email positive. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Let me see here. Yeah. I mean, people don't wanna hear that would have to be something for like a completely different show man, and that would be angry every. Couple years, you turn into the new Alex Jones. The anti that level of happy doing man. Jesus Alex Jones, somebody just want a Sears less wanna fight him. But if I saw him his face so bad man, he's, he's on his way out. Yeah. Hope so in financial ruin or just about to be you. Think so many lost custody of his kids. Did he lose? While ago. Yeah. In the sandy hook parents are gonna go. Oh, that's right. Making some headway with that already. Oh man. Get alec. I've seen is man. This is what got me mad, one of the things have you heard about the Alexandria, Causey Cortes? The mean unfortunately going around there's images her reacting to the border crisis in people making fun of her Spokane, tragic and apparently, my dad is all for this ship. Get your dad on the phone with me. Seriously? Get your debt to fucking call me if he's got balls. Let your dad. Hey, dan. Mister miracle. You put makeup mister miracle on the phone, right? I would love to talk to your data fired up. Fuck right now. Let's call me if he's all for that get him on. The phone day deca sit up. They laugh at this ship from a distance talk to somebody confront him about it. But fucking down on the phone right now. He he's a real man. He's a real human being being a fucking coward. That's a problem thought these people have behind us keyboards and TV's, and they're such big shots, then they can sit fucking memes, and snide remarks. But some, but the moment somebody's got to confront them with surrounded by the fuck, another white, nationalist friends. And all that kind of bullshit cowards fucking cowards. Tell you that right now get your dad on the phone with me. I'll call gimme is number. That's, that's a big factor actually plays into it that it just doesn't feel real because they're on TV, or they're speaking online or something like that. They're so separate Lakers. There's another whole thing that separates them from that. And when even when you're conversation, debating, someone is not even debates typically when they have like talking heads in the media, people yelling exactly. And yeah, that's why it's even more of a disconnect. So. Another another problem that plays into it. All right. We got doing. Here's the link to the fire fest. I mean that's five is practically festival, two point two. Smelling, smelly. Smell smell smelly. There you go. Best best Ville. Wait two hours to get in and cancel spin it spent eight hundred pounds and totally came all the way from the UK, and are you mad apparently no refund? The debt is mad. Vesta Bill is cancelled. Yeah. I'm sure we'll hear more about this. Maybe they'll get the undocumented. Yeah. Here's, here's a couple of nights go out with this Jimmy Liano Ginny. Hey Corey marr. I just wanted to express from the bottom of my heart. The McGrath for both us in your kindness, and hospitality during my visit Austin, it was an amazing experience meeting, you all person watching the show live and despite my initial nervousness able to enjoy the shows and talk with the other lovely guest after. It'll still be what is this? Space with family driven Oklahoma in Fort Worth, until I get back to Canada, this Sunday, June six open, comeback soon stay longer than two days. So I can meet the rest of the co host fellow toasties in Austin. But until then, thank you once again, and my regards to miss Mia as well. Sealy Jin Leon. She's a cute kid has taken, but she's a she's a lovely person. Nice. Yeah. She's very nice. Man. She's very sweet. Glad to. The other day man. She had fun with some of the other people around here. That's good. Yeah. And there's Terry Terry Black's needs to pay us. He's giving us some free barbecue. Remember how they about to go out of business, and we, we pump them up so much. Yeah. You right about that man have your the shelters advertising. We send people they many guy give a rib. Some. Rian. They act like they don't know us now Francisco. Hey, d- crew just want to say thanks again for having us over at the show last week out tonight, had a great time hanging out with you, and we're grateful for the hospitality. You showed us. We can't wait to come back to you guys in LA. Thanks, the bunch of stay toasty. That is from France, school LA still happen in October. I think so. Yes. October September is going to be busy. Is it? Him. Yeah. He's cool. Wanna see what he did we when we took our that, that, that really bad high school photo. Let me see right here. Came up. That's. Crumbs, crumbs, every well either Thursday, Friday. All right. Everybody that is it. Thank you so much. But missing anything we'll get to those emails tomorrow. Glad you have me Reno the put me in a bit of spirit housing mad as fuck. Relying I, I was mad, too because I had to another reason why slowed down, and I was on that Birgit crime, and I was talking about that with police brutality mill shootings. Like let me stop this six, I'm about to start. Looking like a bitch in front. Everybody crime has shut up. I thought you would. Nick. All right here, buddy, we're out of here. Chris, thank you. Thank you, appreciate you in your review. Whereas they day. That had on recognize you. You sister man. What's your name again? Julie Jimmy, thanks for coming in your sisters. Great man. If she was still in town. I tell to come onto the show and do some stuff with us. Then again y'all start double team. Chris, thank you. Yeah. Of course. Monta. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Very much. Oh. This one went to read fan from India. 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