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1128: "Tactile Nuke"

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1128: "Tactile Nuke"

"Juliane called Juliane Adam curry John's he divorced. Twenty nine nine. This is your ward win and give on Asian media assassination. Episode eleven twenty eight this is no agenda predicting news before it happens and broadcasting live from the capital of the German star stayed here in downtown Boston Tejas, including in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. Silicon valley. I'm Jesse Vora. Guava NBA's kale? The Mon man you could have dropped a little squeak in there. Something. Squeak is you know, I get it. Get a figure out exactly where the go. The sweet spot is where the perfect spot is for squeaking. Singh has a mind of its own shares become a celebrity it has. Yeah. We were talking just before the show that it can do meet ups. It can go onto doing meet him. And now featuring John C damore squeaky chair. So we're in the middle of the move is underway next week Friday, we move so Sunday show in a week will be from the new studio. So you are you. But you're in the process of moving out a little bit at a time. Yeah. So we're we're moving because we don't have that much stuff anymore. You'll recall the purge from the previous move. So that I just been moving stuff over every single day. And then Friday the movers. Come but here's the benefit of of moving. You find stuff that was lost? Yeah. It's back. Oh, you would my whistle. Oh that little plastic. Whistle. This. I was going to send you one go right because I got the replacement which was. It was doesn't work this way. Finally, did that's what you're looking for. You were going to send me one road tip. After Sunday's show. Were talking about the the news cycle. How it was very odd. And it's like, we're we're stuck. It's you know, there's nothing happened. And it's like, and you think you said the decks are cleared something's going to take place. Yeah. I still believe that's still the case. Why I think it happened? This morning would happen. We've got making his right. I have to tell you the pictures are shocking from London today where Juliana Saen just long standoff with international authorities, Julian Assange, just so, you know, it's finally Juliane Juliane Juliane say this is some but one of our producers on Twitter predicted this really predicted this. 'cause I put it on Twitter that I think something going to happen. This yummy probably before the show. But maybe not and then he says Assange Ecuador, and I said that sounds right fabulous. Well, let's listen to this early morning report. Gayle king and she talks about Juliane, asong shave breaking news, right? And I have to tell you the pictures are shocking from London. Working. Long standoff with international authorities is finally over this is Assange. He is has she never heard of this guy. She says it twice a third time even British please remove the WikiLeaks founder from Ecuador's embassy this morning, clearly he did not want to go. He's been inside. Since August two thousand twelve hiding from UK arrest warrant Assange. His lawyer says the arrest follows a US extradition request. Wikileaks says Ecuador's decision to allow police to arrest. Assange violated international laws bearded and handcuffs Wiki leaks, founder Julian Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian embassy by British police. Did you see the short clip of him being dragged out? No, I don't know anything about this just before the show the morning news. Oh, so they dragged them out literally hand and feet because he wasn't walking any looks like shit. He's got. He's got Terry confinement. We'll shoe or but he's got a huge white beard. He looks a little bit. Like, what's Quaid's, brother? The crazy, quiet. Randy Randy looks a little bit like Randy Quaid with a white white beard and they dragged him out, man. They dr- holding his arms his legs. He was not. And then looking at the pictures now shouting the UK must resist. His arrest is seven years in the making the forty seven year old had been wanted by British police since twenty twelve we need skip bail and sought asylum at the embassy to escape extradition to Sweden on accusations of rape and sexual assault. Swedish prosecutors dropped their investigations, but the WikiLeaks founder told his supporters from the embassy balcony that he still couldn't risk leaving the war. The war commencing. The UK has said it will arrest me, regardless. And that's exactly what he's fear. Now as then is that the US government will request his extradition on charges of espionage, Wiki leaks has provoked the US government for more than a decade leaking troves of classified documents and videos online into twenty sixteen presidential campaign. Came more leaks, thousands of emails hacked from prominent Democrats US intelligence agencies later concluded Russia had delivered the data to WikiLeaks in an effort to discredit Hillary Clinton charge. Assange has denied night played this whole clip because I think that's what this is about. Obviously have pulling Julian Assange in front of the Justice getting him in front of congress or the Senate or somebody important will prove once and for all collusion between Donald Trump and. Juliane Assange and WikiLeaks and Russia. So this is either a mission from what's leftover of the people who perpetrated perpetrated the original hoax. Which is mix. Or it could be Trump himself wanting to pull them out. So we can get expert testimony Assan saying no and saying it was Seth rich and whatever else you can get them to say. Well, that's that's asking a lot. It is just saying we don't know which way is going. I do not think that this is what Trump is up to because I don't think he can bring it thinking bring himself to do that. Now, this is also timing wise part of will bar bar. Yes. Of course lips. Clips are coming out and saying that there was spying going on which there wasn't. Everyone's all now, they're all a gassed about this all my God. He's gotta take it back. This can't be true. And that got a lot of headlines now, this will this will remove that from the front page input Assange, and in the horrible hacking of the DNC and all the rest of bring that back to the front page to to help promote the phony baloney Russian thesis, which is you know, it keep it keep a ball in the air. Whether you're gonna do what else we got? Well, you know, what it provides for is what the what the machine needed the m five m machine needed new fuel. And now it has it now. Now, we can talk about Assange and green Greenwell don't RAF. He can get on everywhere and start talking. It's going to be very interesting. I I'm seeing we know it'll be fun. Except for one thing. That's a problem for us. You and me. Yeah. Did we know exactly? What's going to happen? The letter. Well, agreed while the come on and and barade- everybody and complained that he wasn't picked to go on CNBC anymore MSNBC anymore, which is his main complaint. And yeah, this whole thing. And there was signs things going to be rehashed. And this thing is going to be rehashed. Also, there's a there's an extra benefit to this. The can push off the Brexit news, the Brexit delay. Now, there's a whole lot of people benefit from this this distraction. As usual shall we play. The attorney Joey do that. I do wanna mention looking at the at the indictment, which really it really targets Chelsea Manning who is currently also in jail for not willing to testify, right? Interesting. So it's really a Chelsea Manning about him hacking in passwords is rod almost all about Chelsea Manning is really not that not condemning Assange as much says, the Chelsea Manning is the one that actually stole the documents. But we know that that's not what this is about. It's about the Wiki leaks of Hillary's emails, and blah, blah, blah, Roger stone. He can bring him back, and he gets to talk some more smack. Let's go back though to the news that was yesterday with probably the only line that really mattered mattered in the second day of attorney general Bill bar testimony. And this is how it went down five. I'm going to be reviewing. Botha Genesis and the conduct of intelligence activities directed at the Trump campaign during two thousand and sixteen a lot has already been invented a lot of this has already been investigated in a substantial portion of it has been investigated is being investigated by the office of inspector general at the department, but one of the things I wanna do is pull together all the information from the various investigations that have gone on including on the hill. And in the department and see if there are any remaining questions to be addressed. And can you share with us? Why you feel a need to do that? Well, you know for the same well for the same reason, we're worried about foreign influence in elections. We wanna make sure that during elect I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal to big deal. Generation I grew up in which is the Vietnam war period, people were all concerned about spying on antiwar people and so forth. Now is he referring to the church commission. No, no, no. He's referring to Vietnam war era. Right. But what what church? No he's talking about. Now, the FBI was tagging everybody spying on every on every dissident that was doing in pre if you were in a Vietnam war protests. They would take your picture, and they put a dose. Yeah. This is this is the stuff he's talking about now. But he's also saying they were very specific rules that were put into place. It's not I I was searching around. It wasn't really easy to find anything about you know, what rules were put him. No. Pete not about church. Okay. Well, concerned about spying on antiwar people and so forth by the government. And there are a lot of rules put in place to make sure that there's an adequate basis before before our law enforcement agencies get involved in politics and political surveillance. I'm not suggesting that those rules were violated. But I think it's important to look at that. And I'm not just I'm not talking about the FBI necessarily, but agencies more broadly. You're not suggesting now that spine occurred. I don't well. Guess you could I think there was a spying did occur. Yes. I think spying. Well. Well, let me question is whether it was predicated adequately predicated, and I'm not suggesting it wasn't adequately predicated, but I need to explore that I think it's my obligation congresses usually very concerned about intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies staying in their proper lane. And I want to make sure that. That's right. Stay in your lane. Well, this caused the shit storm sir Doucet for here in Austin put together one of our favorite little company, lodges of the in five m freaking out over these spying allegation. When you weren't the word spying from the attorney general, what did you think? What does that mean? Well, I was very disappointed in what to turn general Barsha today about spying say how very very dismaying and disappointing that the chief law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. Both stunning and scary. This was really a shameful moment for the attorney general, flabbergasted, my heart. Skipped a beat. This is a completely loaded term completely falls. And for the attorney general to say so is a stain on his reputation, and that was perhaps the most shocking to really have this dog whistle. That was audible to all species. This is off the rails. We can't adapt to absorb the it was a shame. I think today to see Bill bar one of our nation's most respected lawyers to time attorney general turn in his tortoise. Shell glasses for tin foil hat, the term spying has all kinds of negative connotations. But for the attorney general to imply or to say that there was spying domestically. He knows the language. Very well. He knows the terminology have to believe he he chose that term. Deliberately? The rats are starting to scatter. Well, it's even funnier in context of this is short of playing you. Remember, it was in may of twenty eighteen when Trump came out and said, hey, they were spying on me. Here worthy. 2017 wasn't it. Fifteen S eighteen or seventeen may have been seventeen. Well, here's another quick compilation. What we've seen and heard from the president in the past five days. Maybe the biggest lie of all repeatedly. And with no facts of back up making the outrageous claim that the so-called deep state spied on his campaign, just phoney baloney story about a spa in the campaign to call them. A conspiracy theory is to give them too much credit notion that somehow the FBI implanted planted someone inside the campaign to spy on the campaign is just not true unproven narrative of five being placed inside his campaign did the intelligence community spy on on President Trump and his campaign. No, we did not. Yeah. Make mention a couple of details before we. Yes. What people can be reminded Mike Rogers who was headed heading up the NSA right after Trump got in came over to Trump's offices and told him about this stuff and clued him in and then Mike is not there anymore. He retired. But he was like a big, you know, he thought this was bad, and he told Trump all about, and that's where Trump got all this information. And then Rogers, you know, kind of I it's about a year later was out, but it wasn't unfounded. Or, you know, without this been in the public domain this idea of spying. So so fact, all these Democrats are all bent out of shape about it. Now Barr says it may have happened which if we're to believe the stories about Mike Rogers coming over from the NSA and mentioning it we've we know this has been happening. So these people we have to we have two groups that are fighting this one is the group that's going to be nailed for violate. Of various laws Clapper being at the top of the list, and among others, and then the Democrats themselves the Pelosi's in and Schumer's who believe that this is going to hurt their chances in twenty twenty which will. Yeah. So we have two groups very much against even using the word spying. Well, it's very waited term. It is not joke. What better word? Spying. Oh my God. They're using a buzz term as a dog whistle that. Oh dogs can hear. Oh breeds. Oh, breeds of dogs can hear that one. Well, there's more fun stuff. That it hasn't really well for obvious reasons hasn't really made the top of the m five and. Newly obtained attornal internal message from Platte river networks that's the company that ran Hillary Clinton's private E mail server. Have shown some interesting things Email from February twenty sixteen identified. Platte river networks official. Question came in. I'm kind of freaking out about Gresham thoughts on what to do with name redacted. The official responded. It's all part of the Hillary cover up operation. I'll have to tell you about it at the party smile emoji. That's never good. That's never good near the funny thing about this. Everybody being a gas and calling spying buzzword in a dog. Whistle. Depict that word careful than all the rest is that if we remember when Snowden showed up it became apparent that. There was nothing but spying going on every which way as on the American citizens on the American people. And so now, this is all of a sudden unbelievable. He's bars off the rails. He's he's swab. He's tortoiseshell rimmed glasses for tin foil. He how does how do we go from snowed in revelations about just general spying to bar going off the rails? It just these people are unbelievable. And the in five am is the problem. Yeah. I mean there it's the five am should be ashamed of itself. I wanted to really especially when they're the ones who are like they kind of got a kick out of the Snowden this stuff. Yeah. They should be ashamed themselves about Assange Juliane because you this guy is a journalist. Apparently, they're not. Well, that's what it will come down to these. He is Wiki is Wiki leaks of journalists are organization, which of course, you know. We'll. Goes into first amendment stuff. And it makes no sense. The theft of the documents is Chelsea Manning. Then Bradley Manning when it occurred. I wonder if Chelsea could say that wasn't me. Oh, I have I have a correction to make. Okay. Just the I don't want to do it early in the show. I got a very nice Email from Julianne who was head of communications at Waymo. Waymo the self the autonomous driving car company. Hey, adam. I just heard your podcast episode eleven twenty two and saw the related tweet to the seven thirty seven. No and the related tweet relating this seven three seven two, oh, relating the seven three seven crash that is to Waymo killing a pedestrian in Arizona who wanted to reach out to clarify that Waymo has never caused any fatalities in Arizona or anywhere. I believe you're referring to this incident with Uber which way MO was not involved in. Appreciate you, updating your listeners and social followers. Glad someone's paying attention. Oh, wait. He's I didn't see this might make sense to to delete the tweet if possible that the statement wasn't accurate. I don't know about that. I don't think I should do that. I think I should reply to myself. Deleted this easiest way. Now, you don't want trouble. Well, no, it's just easiest way. Why what did you know? It's not the easiest way. There's no easier than me replying to myself saying, hey, that wasn't Waymo. Isn't that more transparent? What couple of things one? They're the ones that will sue you. Yeah. They're the ones who suggested that deleted tweet. But instead of deleting the tweet you decide to reply to yourself, which a lot of people never read the replies to yourself. I mean, it's just doesn't I would say take their advice, and do as, you know, in this case do what they tell you and delete the tweet is a simple one click, boom deleted. Yeah. Well, if she had put a link to it, I have no idea where this thing is you go jogging find in not-i'm are really really I think I'm not. I just I fundamentally as a journalist I feel that it provides like the New York Times. I I've given my advice, I'm done. So you don't have to argue with me anymore. Okay. Have you? Did you find the tweet? I didn't start find it within. I can find it within. What do you think? Three min. Hits two minutes. Well, within a minute. I can find a tweet within a minute. That's okay. That's too long for the show. Don't get. Well, I'll I'll do it in the background. Okay. Yeah. Gimme a password. Let's swap passwords like millennial lovers. That's that's the thing. That is the thing. Well, while you're looking for that just one other quick observation before we move into other news, Obama was in Berlin. And he was hanging out with Angola Merckel kind of lovey dovey. I think she's infatuated with him. Yeah. This is a violation of the Logan act. Whatever happened to the Logan act when anybody would poor, Mike, Michael Flynn Flynn. Yeah. Well, how about this forget the Logan act? So I'm watching I'm paying attention. I'm listening to what he's saying. I'm looking at his head. I guess I'm not looking at body language or anything and Tina says. He's not wearing his wedding ring. Michael Flynn know Bama when he was in Germany with Thanga Merckel. Oh, nice catch to which I said is it Ramadan. 'nother. Nice cat. But I don't think it isn't that Ramadan. I don't think. So, but he's not wearing his wedding ring, which believe me women, find this odd. Especially if you're with another woman. Yeah. The hottie. Angula? I think the hottie as she looked. Okay. That that that naked picture of her when she was nineteen it wouldn't all that bad. I never saw this dig around for. I don't I don't think you want to dig around for it. I mean, I don't wanna hurt your eyes. But it wasn't all that bad. All right. So we can move on from there to the other big news. Brexit delayed to us the president of the OPN council where I agrees extension to the Brexit process to the end of toba apps. The latest I continue to believe we need to leave the EU with a deal as soon as possible and five sleazy EU have agreed that the extension can be terminated. When the withdrawal agreement has been Russia fide, which was my key request of my fellow leaders. For example, this means that if we're able to pass a deal in the first three weeks of may we will not have to take part in European elections and will officially the EU on Saturday the first of June doing the calls the extension. The European Council is clear that the u k. Will continue to hold full membership rights as what is its obliga- Sion's? Let me conclude by saying this, I know that there is huge frustration for many people that I had to request this extension. The UK should have left the EU by now and I sincerely regrets. The fact that I have not yet been able to persuade parliament to approve a deal which would allow the UK to leave in a smooth and orderly way. But the choices we now face are stark and the timetable is clear. Okay. Now that is her version of the announcement that the article fifty has been pushed back here is the president over there in the us, Donald too. And he says something very interesting little additional factoid. Friends. Tonight's the ruby on council decided to grant the United Kingdom of flexible extension of the article fifty period until the. The first of this means an additional six months or the UK six during this time, the cost of action will be entirely in the UK and. Can throughout if I there was agreement in which case extension will be terminated. It can also reconsider the whole Brexit strategy that might lead to change us in the political declaration, but not in the withdrawal agreement and here comes on the end of this period. They also have the possibility to revoke article fifty together. Theresa May didn't mention that is one of the options that was one of the fears is, hey, what if we want to cancel and just forget article fifty altogether. No can't do that. They won't let us here. It is. Lettuce if they want they can cancel Brexit altogether. Forget the article fifty which is working out well for the EU. Because what it gives them against from the leverage say, hey, look, look, they tried it. So any other country wants to try to weasel her way out of the EU? They'll never, you know, there's point to Great Britain to these guys. They went almost the country almost fell apart because they tried to get it because it's not possible. Even the great British empire. Couldn't pull it off. Yeah. The yeah. The British empire couldn't get out of this deal. So you're stuck chump. Okay. We'll continue it sincere cooperation as a full Member State with all its right and close. And trusted ally. In the future. Let me finish was a message to our British friend. This extension as flexible as I expected and a little bit shorter than I expected about it still enough to find the best possible solution. Do not waste this time. But you're bad. I gotta tell you. Our producers are so damn good. This song this Brexit's on could be used in the UK political parties could take this song. I'm telling. That is survey of the hot southern Bush and certificate of no fixed title together. These forces of local number one of joined corrected the local number one choir. This is the latest single on the local one label full full track at the end of show. It's an English group. I think that originally if you. Isn't that the Beatles? Common that his at the people's no feeling it something else. Anyway, bad finger, no. Maybe it was bad finger. I don't know. The beatles. Well, it doesn't matter does not go on back to the spying thing. I do have a cow. You want to go back to spying? I'm sorry. I didn't know that. We were still on that. I kinda ran me over sorry. CBS did a run down at the whole thing. And they had and I call it the somewhere along the lines is referred to the spying. I the idea that anyone spied on Trump. I this just thought it was interesting that into the public domain. They brought in this this medium long debunked. Oh, interesting way of putting it. So when they said that I I thought to myself long debunked spying theory. When was it debunked in the first place that it would be long debunked? Well, you because when Trump said they were spying on him at his offices. And by the way, there are some looks like JC q was had a warrant to just look it as, you know, look at Trump Tower, according to at least one source, I have a copy of the of the supposed memo. Is it because the mainstream media says when Trump's they're spying on mate? They all said you lie is that just that constitute D Mato. No. When Don lemon says you lie that's a debunk, then it's that's long debunked. So in other words, no debunking whatsoever. Just a accusation accusations debunking this is bullcrap. Let us now CBS place this that legal which on President Trump's bashing of the Russia probe is nothing new. But he got some unexpected backup today from his new attorney general William Barr. Thank spying occur bar told senators he's looking into whether the US intelligence community in appropriately spied on the Trump campaign even as bar admitted. He has no evidence of that. I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred. I'm saying that I am. Concerned about it and looking into it do want to refrain. What you're doing Democrats called bar irresponsible and accused him of propping up quote long debunked spying conspiracy to please Donald Trump. Long debunked a good catch actually. Yeah. I like the way they put a maim into the public domain as to get the public because apparently the public is consists of idiots. Oh, it's been long debunked. According to her, well, it is the CIA broadcast system. So brought CVS the next clip of this of this report how fairy theory dismaying and disappointing. That the teeth law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. He is. Torney general of the United States America, not the attorney general. Of Donald Trump. The FBI did obtain a surveillance warrant in twenty sixteen to monitor the communications of Carter page. That's not spying. That's it's monitoring. I'm sorry. That's the best point. They did get a warrant for a warrant for monitoring Malines warrant in twenty sixteen to monitor the communications of Carter page, a campaign foreign policy adviser who had been courted by Russian operatives in the past. The warrant was based in part on allegations contained in a dossier prepared by a British expi- who was doing research for the Clinton campaign making it a longtime flashpoint for Republicans. Do you agree with me that every American should be concerned as wait a minute. Let me just listen to that that again, what exactly did she say operatives in the past? The warrant was based in part on allegations contained in a dossier prepared by a British expi- who was doing research for the Clinton campaign. They're kind of hanging Clinton out to dry in this report. The way they're doing it. I listen to this number of times trying to figure out what style they're using here to bamboozle the public. But maybe they might be Clinton may be hanging out to dry because they don't wanna running again. And if they could hang the whole thing on her all the dangerous hang the whole thing on the can just they can do the old. Well, our hands. Are we got it? We figured it out there get out Scot free. But I don't the problem is that seems that too many tentacles reached back into the bomb administration. Valerie rice and Valerie Valerie Jarrett and Susan realizes all the rest of the TI. And now also Vicky new, and apparently she apparently she facilitated see if I had an article in behalf that here. I think that. Yeah. She facilitated the meeting I think she brought in St.. Deal. Wouldn't surprise me. Now making it a longtime flash point for Republicans. Do you agree with me that every American should be concerned as to whether or not a warrant was obtained against an American citizen with unverified information, absolutely. That's that. And the third one. It was something that wanted to say about was which back there when she's pushed the one directly through that. I don't know what that was. But yet third clip Democrats contend, this is all an effort to undermine special counsel Robert Muller's report, which bar is due to release publicly next week tonight. The democratic leader Chuck Schumer is calling on bar to either retract his spine claim or produce proof. Jeff. Thank you very much. Now, the democrat this is week to the Democrats claim to be any that clip the Democrats claim this was to something debunk or robber molars report exonerates for all practical purposes on I hate using that word Trump and a whole campaign apparatus. So why did she say that at the beginning when we know that can't possibly be the reason is deflections? Just play the beginning clip three just one more time just to beginning Democrats contend, this is all an effort to undermine special counsel Robert Muller's report, which BART's is due to release publicly next week. How would that undermine it? What's there to undermine the reports coming out? So that I couldn't I still can't figure out why that's in the report to undermine a report that's done about John Moore is this. This is CBS that clearly floundering in the reporting. And so someone says man pull the trigger get Assange. We gotta do something Juliane called Juliane Juliane. Julie. This is going to be good. Great. From our perspective is fantastic. For me to remember is long debunked law long bug. I don't know. Long overdue debunked. Yes. Exactly. And let me see. Are you done with spying because I don't have much else? I do have a couple of funny. I mean, there's some funny stuff that took place in these hearings. And there are a lot of good ones actually, the climate the climate change hearing didn't get any clips from it. We had that we had the white nationalist hates hearing. That's the one with Candice, which everyone was all. But you can't as clips. Before you the candidates clip because I did get I got one clip from that too. Say. At one. Yeah. I know I got to actually. This is the first one. Was a colleague of mine Morton Klein, he's I think he's the executive director of the glamour Morton client clip Zion. Morty? He's got a terrific play my clip than thanks for ruining surprise. Thank you Nadler ranking member Collins and members of the committee. I I must say I have to read syndrome, sometimes I have ticks and make sounds I can't control to please. Forgive me. Finally, finally, something I can make fun of. I'm not gay. I'm not black, but I have to read. So I can. So I can. This is weird one though, it's it has a written. Yeah. It's not uncommon. I have when I saw the two are directs special. That's what he's doing that that swallowing can-canada get words out. Yeah. I think I have standing in this area. Thanks. We. I think it's common now it's not uncommon. But it's funny. One. Larry. The problem is now I'm gonna start doing it myself. That's probably careful if you saw that to our special onto rats, you know, that we take each other off. All right. Okay. I have I have the definitive. More clip. Well, actually before before you do that when we play a serious clip from that defended mort clip on sorry. If it's it's a more. It's a more Therese clip. No. Of course, not okay. Then let me play the the woman. See I lean her Chenoweth of the Anti-Defamation League. But in a close race between African Americans and Jews for the hatred of white nationals. I agree with you, Mr. Cohen that we shouldn't compete these things are absolutely linked. You might start with some nights of premises on anti-semitism, and you will get to anti immigrants refugees, Muslims African Americans and vice versa. What you see on? This is that there's a white supremacist used to want to keep dominance after the civil rights era. They became more and more scared. The extinction of the white race five. They will call people who are LGBTQ degenerate or Sodomites excuse me. I'm just gonna use the words that we see over and over they will call. They will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white. They will demonize firmness. Interesting. This one sentence. Listen to what she says, they will call. They will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white. They will actually starts off by saying. Which would be correct they will call people or they will accuse people. But instead she says it will call they will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white to saying that as if it's true, by the way. She corrects the subtext. It's interesting. She corrected herself. Because she she was about to say it, right? They call they claim maybe she was going to say. But then she let's just it's I'm not accusing her of anything. But it's of note when we listen to speech patterns, which we do a lot here will call may. Well, look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white. They will demonize refugees and immigrants. They will look at Muslims, and they say again, and again who are the ones that walk straight this. They are the Jews that is what Bowers Pittsburgh shoot or came in. He said, I don't want these hordes of immigrants and refugees. It's the Jews that are doing it. All Jews must die. Man. The thing is was she's the one who's she's literally said. Genetic inferiority of non whites. Yeah. She didn't say suppose, it may be stating this the way you want to to make a point. You say the supposed genetic inferiority which would be a a. An honest way of putting it I say the genetic inferiority. She's a hater. She's a hater. Big hater you in that guys since my guy. So this more comes on. And he he answers. This is the this is another example. And and this is the one that Scott Adams pulled from the hearing, this particular clip saying that maybe this will end the problem once and for all even though this has been done over and over and over and over again, and it's done one more time with his goal. More goal more goal Gohmert Gohmert. More Klein clip when I asked Mr. Klein, what are your thoughts about President Trump's from marks regarding Charlottesville demonstration where he's quoted as saying you also had some very fine people on both sides. Well, I'm glad you asked that because the media has really completely distorted the truth of that episode. What he meant. And he said, so when he said, it is that they're fine people who want to get rid of Robert Lee statue. And they're fine. People who are not haters who believe restore reasons they want to keep that statue. And he made that clear and then in the same breath, Mr. Gohmert in the same breath. President Trump said, quote, I'm not talking about the Neo Nazis, and the white nationalist when I say fine people because they should be condemned totally. And yet the media has never made that clear that he in that nut statement. He condemned the, Nazis, white, nationalist. He did not mean that they were fine people. Quite the contrary. He's disgusted by those people. Thank you. Thank you. To read shut up making too much sense kind of a scripted question and answer, but kind of get Gohmert as a Republican. Oh, yeah. Gohmert. Sure, just check. What was it the crap in trade Bill? That's our first clip from Louie Gohmert was like eight nine years ago. Where he said, Dave we're going to be upset when they see what happens with this crap. Trae Bill, I wish I still had that probably do. Might be under Sperry, but it crap in trade so Gohmert that was one of the witnesses that Republicans brought up and they've made a point of mentioning that public and said there people including Canada's. Well, yes before before you get into that. Because I know you have the clips and the Ted lieu got burned my question as we listen to these is it possible. They set him up. No, you don't think. So now, I don't think it was even remotely possible in lieu if you looked at him you watch him during the whole thing he didn't care what anyone thought he's put his thing down played as a blue. I don't have that part of it. I have the follow up, but just to explain it. Ted lieu took his old long debunk long. Kind of Candace Owens talking about a Hitler. But it was talking about Hitler in a one hour context as that she was making the claim and she says so that she would the question was asked of her about nationalism and Hitler came into conversation. She says Hitler was not a nationalist. And she went to an explanation of this and losers play the little piece of it. That was I don't think that's what she said. I think what she said was just because you're a nationalist doesn't mean that you want to kill people. A little different what she said. Well, now that I as you say that I I don't think that's true. But she she went on about Hitler would have been fine. If he wasn't trying to make Germany bigger something along those lines. But let's listen to what she says when she goes off. There's couple of clips she goes off on Nadler, mostly sorry, we started recording. Would you like time to respond to that? Yes. I think it's pretty apparent that? Mr Liu believes that black people are stupid and will not pursue the full clip in its entirety. He purposely, presented an xtrac mix. Suspend from it is not proper to refer disparagingly or to a member of the committee. The witness will not do that. Again. We're just may continue. Even I was called despicable riddance may not refer to a member of the committee stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's what I said. What I said at all. You didn't listen to what I said. May I continue. I and the thing that makes this is one of those rare clips that were really should be watching when she says, I didn't say that. She didn't. She never said he was stupid. She said that he thinks she's black people black people are people are stupid. And so he she calls him out for not listening because he's I think Nadler's very rare listening to any of this, right? And so she calls him out in natter goes man shrugs here. Whatever whatever you hear his little aids in the background whispering liver vibe listen to this short. Even I was called despicable witness may not refer to a member the committee stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's what I said. What I said at all. You didn't what I said. He said this. He said Benchley continue shift. Yeah. Then she goes this is part two of her going off on that Nadler continue. As I said, he is a soothing that black people will not go pursue the full to our clip, and he purposefully extracted he cut off, and you didn't hear the question that was asked of me he's trying to present. As if I was launching a defensive Hitler in Germany, when in fact, the question that was asked of me was perturbing to whether or not I believed that Hitler was are not I believe in nationalism. And that nationalism was bad. When I responded to was I do not believe that we should be characterizing Hitler as a nationalist. He was a homicide of psychopathic maniac that killed his own people. A nationalist would not kill their own people. As exactly what I was referring to in the clip. And he purposely wanted to give you a Cup similar to what they do to Donald Trump to create a different narrative that was unbelievably dishonest, and he did not allow me to respond to it, which is worrisome to tell you a lot about where people are today in terms of trying to drum up narratives, by the way. I would like to also add that I worked for Prager university, which is run by orthodox Jew on a single democrat showed up to the embassy opening and Jerusalem. I sat on a plane for eighteen hours to make sure that I was there. I'm deeply offended by the insinuation of revealing that clip without the question that was asked of me. I. Wasn't happy comes up another one only Kripa her goods raw. She's not a dummy. No, no. I thought it was great. That's got to be kind of scary sitting there all these Jim oaks sitting in front of you. But once figured out that he wasn't even listening. I think then she's like screw it. And she just went full, by the way, the thing that bothered me about this particular didn't didn't clips could've probably but the. With ease. People move between white nationalist, white separatist and white supremacist throughout the hearing people interchange these words, and they really mean different things in different cases hope so you can't just throw them all together in that regard. It was very lame. Yeah. I do agree. So here's a longer clip of her going off on what happened. This actually self explanatory clip. Let's listen to it because they had. Republicans brought her on because she had some issues with hate speech herself. She was a victim of to hate speech to think is chairman first of all I ask unanimous consent to include in the regular list of political violence perpetrated or promoted by leftist organizations that objection. Thank you. And I also, you know, I'm riffing on something that Mr. buck Jin of Colorado was I don't think I've ever heard anyone in a session. Like that say, I'm riffing. Funny riffing did out but. Pretty odd. I'd say I. Thing on something that Mr. buck. Some of Colorado was talking about the same as ad-libbing. I'm going off script everybody. Just so, you know, I'm gonna do something different here. I think he meant thinking about the list of witnesses and the chairman's Mimmo. It is something I've not seen in my brief time in congress or indeed in my many years of legislative service in my home state that isn't Dettori comment about a witness somebody even considered that this not so subtle editorializing is in of itself in indicia of animus is unfortunate. But it demonstrates how easy it is to let one's bias appear. Even in what is supposed to be an innocuous listing of witnesses. Yes, I will yield, sir. I assume you're you're ferring to what is written about Candice Owens where it says, she's a direct communications conservative at turning point USA and conservative commentator and political activist known for criticism of black lives matters. And at end of the Democratic Party. I don't think she could quarrel with the accuracy of that simple statement of who she is reclaiming my time what I will say about this is you never ever see anybody characterized in any other list of witnesses. This is the first time I've ever seen that other than the stating wet they represent or the group that they're from this is seemingly seemingly anyway going beyond the bounds of what is the norm. That is an indication to me of how easy it is do demonstrate animus and. Meets for logical question of Missouri, which she's already addressed some respect this as you talk, MS Owens, and you go to university, I go to uconn tonight. Do you receive hate speech directed at you all the time, and I really do feel that the media will left has made. Okay. And I do just want to add that my biography, which I submitted you reduced it to one sentence calling me a just a conservative activists. And it wasn't what I said. Or what I wanted. Yeah. Okay. The cake there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The whole idea of what was the point of this of this panel to start with? What is the point the point? Is that show that we have a hate speech problem? We need legislation to do something about it. Well, we already have a model for that. Yes. And the model is called Jew t of care social media could be brilliant, connecting people across the world. But I'm deeply concerned that social media firms still not doing enough to protect uses from harmful content, and that's not good enough today. We're putting a legal duty of care on these companies to keep us safe. And if they fail to do so tough punishments will be imposed the era of social media firms regulating themselves is over it's time to do things differently. It's time to keep our children safe. Gotta think of the children. All right. I'm all in. I want them loves Theresa. May. Let's hear what this means this these online harms laws launching proposals. This morning home. Secretary Javid said they would make the UK the safest place in the world to be online. Hey, this is a global thing. Kind of whatever putting the on big tank. I'm giving tech companies a message that they cannot ignore. This is the home secretary of the UK, I won't you. And you did not do enough says no longer a matter of choice. It's time to for you to protect the uses and give them protection they deserve on Sept. Nothing else. The new guidelines would be enforced by an independent regulator with powers to find companies and block websites if they don't remove harmful content. The paper even suggest senior executives beheld personally, responsible. The plans cover content already defined as legal terrorist propaganda and child sex abuse and behavior considered harmful like cyber bullying campaign has have long called for greater engine safety following cases like that of fourteen year old Molly. Russell who suicide in twenty seventeen was linked to harmful material online. So the regulatory framework is out for this. And I think the most important thing is they will be appointing a special independent regulator. Maybe as our for compliance, and the regulator will have a suite of powers to take effective enforcement action against companies that have breached their statutory duty of care. This may include the powers to issue substantial fines and to impose liability on individual members of senior management that will get your attention. Trauman jail. I hope so. This is a nightmare to enforce. It's impossible to enforce. They have thinking like the UK somehow can turn into AOL tar, right everything. Safe in here. Inside our borders can keyword. Yeah. And they can sell the keywords. This is a complex novel area for public policy to this end as well as setting out the government's proposed approach this white paper poses a series of questions about the design of the new regulatory framework in non-legislative package. Note non-legislative package a fullest of these questions include at the end of the white paper. So they haven't come up with exactly what it is. But everything I hear is bullying bullying, which is so open to interpretation. Yeah. That's the main one bullying. Harmful groups such as self harming to that has to go which sometimes can be good for kids. It's up in the it depends. But a lot of people find it helpful to talk about the problems. They're Terresa group somewhere that I can join must be. Oh, man. That was like I was like a one a kind of a straight line for me. That was a boy. Monumental. You need you need some call drew a blank. Anyway, this is. This is quite interesting. And really when you think about it. There are similar initiatives brewing in the United States Congress. This is Representative Jay apol-, John Paul the democrat from Washington, and she had a very she's an idiot, you go we're going to abandon the UK. John paul. Shared a very personal story about her own child. And. You know, the trials and tribulations of her child going through transition. Well, listen to it. It was it was emotional. But the way she takes this personal emotion in threatens threatened and is not okay. Kurd to me that we're we're talking about fear vs love. We're talking about fear versus freedom. And I intend to say this today. But. Isn't it? Fear versus. What is what is opposite of fear? Bravery happiness. For fear versus bravery. I think it would work excuse me. What did she say play? Again, she has two different ones here. And it occurred to me that we're talking about fear vs. Love talking about fear versus freedom. Fear is free to and I didn't intend to say this today. It's tough excuse me. Oh boy. Oh boy. My beautiful now twenty two year old child told me last year that they were gender non conforming over the last year. I have come to understand from deeply personal mother's perspective. I've always been a civil rights activist. I've always for my constituents communities to have equal. But from a mother's perspective. I came to understand what their newfound freedom is the only way I can describe what has happened to my beautiful child. What their new phone freedom to where dress to themselves some conform. Stereotype of who they are to be able to express who they are at their real core. And since this deeply impactful moment last year my child who has always done well in school, but has carried a mother can only describe as a heavy burden of conflict in their own being. That I could not fully identify or help to express since the steeply impactful moment last year, my embracing of their non-conforming, gender identity, and all that has allowed all the did allows in terms of their creativity their brilliance, their self expression. The only thought I wake up with every day is my child is free. My child is pre be who they are. And in that freedom comes responsibility for us as legislators to protect that freedom to be who they are and to legislate as doctor wyle, so beautifully said to legislate our behavior towards all people in our society. Do that. You got me. I feel so sorry for you that I'm gonna let you legislate my behavior. What h. I have. No, you can she serious. She wants to legislate behavior. I mean. Yes. Criminal behaviors verse son becoming a girl. Yeah. Well, it's a personal story. It's it's affected. I have compassion for her fine. And her daughter people do that as well. But don't try to legislate me from having an opinion. Because that's what it sounds like as they want. Yeah. Well, it's the United States Gitmo nation east the United Kingdom's. I mean is well on its way. You're really can't bully politicians. I don't know if it's all celebrations. But certainly politicians you can't you can't bully them. You get anything you can't dead name or you can't miss gender. We had a clip just a couple of weeks ago or someone that got a visit from the police because she is he missed gendered. Someone's kid online. This is this is off the rails. The miss 'gendering thing is absolutely ludicrous. Well, the u k man they have traditions gnomes. Although here in Texas going exactly the opposite way, which is also problematic the free to leave act get their hackles of about everything. But here we go the Texas free to believe act. Which is to combat the the bakery. The gay the gay cake, the grog ache, the famous gay cake house Bill ten thirty five would create protections for sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions which personal entity may then use to discriminate against same sex couples and transgender individuals says that literally in the text the sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this Bill would be the belief or conviction that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man one woman and the terms male, man, female and woman refer to an individual's immutable biological sex. As objectively determined, by anatomy and genetics at the time of birth. So what you what? Will then not have to do if you if you don't want to serve someone in these categories. You will not have to actually it's a prohibition. The Bill would prohibit the government from taking any discriminatory action against the person who disobey declines to participate in providing treatment counseling or surgery related to sex reassignment or gender identity, transitioning or psychological counseling or fraternal for Tilleke services marriage related goods and services for free poetry, videography disc jockey services, a I'm veiled for all. Your your LGBT Q, I p services. Bring me on wedding planning, printing publishing similar marriage related goods and services floral arrangements, dress making cake pastry. I mean, it goes on and on and on. Kinda sad. They do this. Well, I don't see what that is necessary. But okay, it seems completely unnecessary cake. It's all about the gay. I doubt that I don't think so pass probably won't think. So well with that though it is high time for me. Thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C and duty of care, John. In the morning, you Mishra curry also in the morning all ships at sea on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the Dame's and nights out. I got my bond goes back in the morning to everyone in the troll room. Trolls there with their polls Pocono way. We'd love seeing that thanks for the info the feedback the one liners it was indeed that finger. Just so, you know, and you can find all that merriment and fun at the troll room, which is no agenda stream dot com. Twenty four seven. We've got shows running on it. You can hop into the chat room. Chataway? We've got a lot of live shows. It's it's a fun place to hang out, particularly if you're a troll. And then it also like say in the morning to Nick the rat. He brought us the artwork for episode eleven twenty seven the title of that was Netherlands. And I realized something about Knicks art which was. George Washington from the dollar Bill and he's covered in measles spots. Yeah. Which signified the moneymaking? Efforts of the pharmaceutical industry with the most recent push of the MR, Maxine. Deep. But here's what I discovered a number of people tried to re tweet this picture, and it did not go it would not re tweet. And I realized why why it's a picture of money. I think the picture of money's a picture of a very small segment of a dollar Bill covered in red dots. I can find no other explanation for some. I understand the explanation. Yeah. No, I agree that it's not money. It's not. But I think that the album of seeing that and got okay. Let's just not do that. Well, that's pretty advanced. They can do that they can do other things than this. Well, rob Reiner. I was gonna say there's the question is can they or won't they there you go. This is our our value for value network that we built up over eleven years between our producers who produce the program. Many of you do a lot in stories of got a couple of things to read today. In fact, a great clips come in. We have artwork as we just showed no gender arch-enemy dot com. But then we also have producers who support the program financially which is desperately needed. And we'd like to thank some of those people now. Well, let's start with your calendar. Lavender bosses for hundred twenty bucks. And he says he sent you a note that you're gonna read he did. Let me see. Cow. I. He did. Said please see the Email sent you about the rest of the interview during the rubella measles case. Oh, yes. I did get that. I have I have a little segment about that for later. Yes. Also, sage says, John if you ever tried shotgun mushroom tease mix of some lion's mane. It will work wonders on your memory and immune system. The answer that query is. No, are you going to try? They've never heard of Chagas mushroom tea, although I have heard a lion's mane try it. If I ever see maybe she sent me some I'm sure he can obtain some for you. Yes. 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I have been listening to old episodes in between new shows and John's chair has been squeaky sense at least show one five seven what this is not rage. It can't be the same chair. Yes. It is. Oh, yeah. Now, could you just take a picture of Justice chair? I mean, I think the chair needs a little exposure the chairs we'll take a picture that year. Even though I did post a picture much studio the other day. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was that was very realistic. Did you Photoshop that? Engage. Glad you think. So funny. I just find it to be the music. No same share forget, please. Send me an invisible. No agenda hat makes Adams John on a second. Hold on. Whereas let me. And it's. Got it goes dead drone s right? How many of those you have at your office? Oh, man. I got a whole fleet swarm you get a free drone with it. Apparently, if you shoot it out of this guy. I would like it Nancy jobs jobs jobs for a friend who got screwed by the girl scouts and the extraction. 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I'm sorry. I didn't download that. But I will download it for the next time. I promise. So that. Is it? Yes. House karma. Yes. House karma, absolutely. You've got karma. Download. Okay. So the Canadians picking up on that fabulous offer that will stand until the end of time like think it's funny that for the last six months, nobody's done this. And then just once out of the blue using the random number theory, boom, boom. Two of them. Do it. Yeah. Not that random because you know, what would happen here is these guys got their carbon tax occur out. Now, they're all broke from the carbon tax. So they got you know, got to go back to some previous offers. I understand that we oxide carbon playing. Would you get for your car? What do you what do you? What benefit is it to you the citizen to pay a carbon tax while you know, what the business stop global warming? No. Does it make less carpet? I don't think. So. So what good is it? What's the point? We'll talk about that in a moment. 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I think is a local I don't think he has to take that flight. He doesn't go back to LA. Okay. Well, then he can still use the credit. So I'm thinking I would recommend to use the credit lease what we just talking about. He was I want to play a clip or was it up to you. Now. It's right back to the spread. She was. Tanit, but we talking about bluer talking about spas them was something that was something other than spas them. Oh, okay. Here's here's what we have to do. We gotta talk about the clip that I played on the previous episode from the Detroit auto show. Okay. And that's where cows note comes in. So just to refresh your memory. This was a weird clip. It was it was to to round out the trifecta of we have mom saw. God we have measles. I got we needed the rubella to make sure we promote more of that vaccine, which I now understand not the going out of date of the patent. Although I do have a patent expiration from Merck, but they had a batch that was going out of date. So they really wanted to wanted to push this final batch to to get it to everybody. But there was an odd. Dr cut into the interview, and we both remarked when we played the clips like this this guy. He's saying he has the wrong message for what they're trying to do. Listen to this number four thousand people possibly exposed to rubella at the auto show. Someone who attended the show has been diagnosed with the illness. Seven action news reporter Alan Campbell is live at Cobo center with what doctors are saying Alan about this healthcare. American International Auto show wrapped up last weekend. Cobo center, it's a popular event for thousands of people. But now those who attended between January thirteenth and fifteenth may have been exposed to rubella most people don't know what it is. But it's really a viral infection and so- virus causes it recent article in the Washington Times is sounding the alarm doing a current measles outbreak in both Washington state and New York saying communities there are among the most unvaccinated including some here in Michigan. And it could be a reason the illnesses spreading we have to stop calling measles of disease. It's a ten day infection. That's the guy. That's the guy Kirch everybody to look at Fettes. So for those parents who choose to not vaccinate that's their choice. The article also highlight some of the anti vaccination hot spots throughout the country listing. Troy, Detroit and warn as problem cities. I fully realized that those who believe in value exceeds will probably not be personally facts, which anyone with a computer and internet access can bear five US government sources say if you think you may have been exposed see your doctor saves us things. Go talk to your doctor. Make sure you're not had the infection. But most of us should be okay. Because we've been vaccinated. So we when we heard this clip the first time, both you, and I win how is this guy who's clearly against vaccine slipped into this vaccination propaganda piece. Well, Cal says. The guy's name is Dr Christian Bogner. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a big proponent of cannabis travels worldwide and speaks at seminars about the benefits. He's part of the team who met up with the state attorney general to add new medical conditions for the medical marijuana program. Autism was one of these conditions Bogner is the medical director one of the biggest recovery centers in the midwest Oxford recovery center, where they treat autism cancer. All gut related glitches. Yes, he said the guy's genius. I couldn't believe I heard this into your, no agenda. So I texted right away and asked him for what was going on turns out of local channel was trying to promote the vaccines. So the interviewed him at the last minute as a last minute add onto their bullshit propaganda. But he spoke against the vaccine. So they cut out most of the interview, no kidding. This is kind of an interesting analysis of local local news who had to put a package together at the very last minute. Call a guy, and then you know, he he has the wrong message. So just throw a couple of quotes in there. And and just leave everything that he said, which is actually counterproductive to what they're trying to achieve with the message, and they air it anyway, any attached to letter sent to channel seven. Thank you channel seven for having me on to share thoughts regarding the recent measles outbreak. Although wasn't reasons it was it was I was. Now rubella while it is German measles measles. Unfortunately, he says about one percent of my fact, stated were omitted and cut out. So I wanted to share what I also said for those who want to really know in the case of measles. The death rate has declined by almost one hundred percent before the introduction of the vaccine in nineteen sixty three deaths due to measles in the last decade zero source CDC death due to measles vaccine one hundred eight source the Barras database the vaccine information sheet, given by your pediatrician is not the manufacturers vaccine insert omits critical information seizures ends of pensive philosophy. And the light is an cephlon put the philosopher. Monopoly and self monopoly, whatever. Yes. Sids and autism. Just name. A few the measles vaccine does not create lifelong immunity, whereas natural infection with measles does by nine hundred sixty three almost no one had ever died from measles. The early measles vaccine that contained killed virus wasn't aluminum precipitated vaccine produced from formaldehyde inactivated monkey kidney cell cultures yum. Yeah. A study from sixty seven reveal that the vaccine could cause pneumonia as well. As an Sieff of NOP Alie, vaccine ingredients. Give up on. Vaccine ingredients today, mayor soul aluminum for from L to hide MSG acetone glycerin lead yeast animal, DNA, polysorbates eighty and aborted fetal tissue. It is estimated that thirty three percent of childhood illnesses can be attributed to environmental toxins. Okay. Well, there you go. He's he's kind of pissed that the they left all of that out. Well, it's interesting. These local stations was usually there's a package going around that you get that. It's been kind of dubbed package to run because everyone's going to run it. And then you to give it a local flair. Yes flavor tests and flavor to it you put in your own little bit to make his call your piece of crap you just air for people. No one's ever heard out. Exactly. So just bringing some local guy. Now crab. We got gotta air. The guys are good. Just throwing a couple of quotes. Exactly how it went. Meanwhile, really really sick know, what sick is what do that. Would that guides letter said is more interesting than any of these measles reports? Yes. Because he has very interesting data there that we I didn't even know. That had been radically run that somehow get Rieti permission to ruin that. I'm gonna put on cosmic weenie three-run what that letter. Oh, I had the letter sent me a copy we can use it. But I don't have Parisian to publish it. Cer- Cal will get you permission to worry about it. What is really disgusting is? What's happening? New York state of emergency New York City mayor Bill de Blasio declared a public healthy -mergency on Tuesday as a measles outbreak. Rattled the borough of Brooklyn mandate vaccines for people living in the affected area. Apartment health will issue violations and fines to people who remain unvaccinated. This is so wrong. The government your local state government is forcing you to take shot. And if they're forcing you to take a shot for measles. Holy crap. What would won't they do next? Once you're used to the idea trust the government who remain unvaccinated. The outbreak has mainly been confined to the orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood with around three hundred confirmed since October that's up from only two reported cases in all of 2017. We cannot allow this dangerous disease to make comeback here in New York City. We have to stop it. Now, the disease that killed almost no one until the vaccine came out and then over one hundred people died measles was declared in limited in the United States in two thousand but has recently seen a resurgence with nearly five hundred cases reported in nineteen states. This year Blasios said that department of health officials will check vaccination records of anyone who has been in contact when infected people in certain areas and will impose a fine. Up to one thousand dollars pushing not vaccinated the measles is highly contagious and can lead to serious complications and death despite scientific evidence to the contrary. A growing vocal group of parents are opposing vaccinations, believing some vaccine ingredients can cause autism or other disorders while there have been no confirmed deaths in the measles outbreak. So far Twenty-one people have been hospitalized. What's interesting to me, though. It's two different states that I believe it's California where purposefully if you purposefully have sex with someone and give them HIV, you're not punishable. Didn't we have that story while back? Yes, that was first you were and then they dropped it. So so you're you are or you are you're not I don't think you. I think what you said is correct. I mean, and so but in New York if you have if you're not vaccinated. Juki dollar fine. For me souls. Welcome to New York. The liberal boroughs of New York where a OC came from. And before y'all run off and go cry and pout, we're not anti vaccine. You can't even have a conversation about vaccinations without being. Branded immediately unfairly branded crap immediately. Yeah. We're anti unnecessary or bullcrap or dangerous exhibitions while we're going back in time. I wanted to talk about code switching for a moment. Code switching. Yes. Yeah. You remember we had a conversation. And there was a lot, of course is gone now. Now now that everyone's onto other topics about AO, see and her so-called pandering. To a black audience, right? And to which I said in. Oh, I gotta think about this a little bit. Coat because it is called code switching which was her immediate response. After everyone started making fun of her visit Wikipedia page, there's professors in linguistics. In fact, I have one coats, which ING is very normal. We all do you. And I do it all the time. We get donate. We get a donation from Australia. What's the first thing? We do mate. Right. We throw it on the Bobby. We get something from Canada. You're the first you actually, the first one to say a boot. Yeah. That's that is code switching, and we all do it. But somehow when we when politicians do it people get really pissed off. Now, here's two examples the one that I think is actually unfair is Hillary Clinton. And the way this has been presented by mainly right wing media outfits. Look at her pandering what she was really doing is. She was. She was quoting Reverend James Cleveland. And apparently, it's not all that odd to then. Adopt an accent, he had to refresh your memory feel no ways tired. I started from nobody told me that the road would be easy. Don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. And of course, the audience, of course, what will this one? You remember President Obama? It's good to be back in thirty. So I looked up this is from twenty fourteen Georgetown University, professor of linguistics. Deborah tannin says this is quite normal. Yes. Also for politicians assume that we have a baseline of speech that's going to be normal in all context. But the truth is we all change our ways of speaking depending on who we're talking to. And so I think it's kind of a gesture of politeness to the people you're speaking to say something in their own idiom so to say put thirty in Puerto Rico, and I think is a pretty natural thing. It's interesting how we react when politicians to it, maybe would kind of predisposed to think that anything politician does is calculated and therefore suspect, but it's only reasonable really to adjust the way, you're speaking to your audience. That means I can speak like this. Well, so the two things one I'm giving total passed a oh, see I give it pass to Hillary Clinton. And yes, we can we can do all these voices without with just would just code switching. So we're we're talking like this. We can do whatever we want. None of my head coach within oh, you could do your at your absolutely fabulous and somewhat famous. Hey, John, H many this is super gate, the heavy on the podcast coach switching listen to this clip. And I think this is a bit what's happening in the way we react to politicians. It can feel like you have no right to speak that way, you're not from the south you're from put thirty so you should say Puerto Rico like all the other people from the place that you come from. I would suggest that people be a little more indulgent and compassionate and just listened to themselves and realize how differently they may speak in different. Tech's maybe cut some politicians of it was lack. So the question is, of course, can I as a straight old white man can I code switch. If I'm in front of a black audience. What can I do that is that? Okay. Or if you're gonna take the broadest interpretation of what she said, and she's only one person, by the way, there's a lot of people that will frown upon you doing a Japanese guy or Chinese guy or even made Bill Dana God ROY run out of town as a comic because he did a Mexican voice. Yeah. You may Moise. Somebody says that in the next thing you're outta here. But where where where is question? I mean, we have now we have two different thoughts by think if you're doing the voice, I think technically, we're gonna do is technically it doesn't apply to us because we're we don't have bosses that. We don't have a corporation, which is have our listenership while imports show there. I think tech is way. I interpreted technically if you're doing it to mock. New or like that that's mocking. It's Ma open like that. That is bad. Okay. Well, then we're really bad all Schwartz. When you order at taco, you know out best door. I think are neat. And it's okay, mocking. Anybody? Just want wanna talk with neat does. Okay. Well, so all I'm going to do then is I'm just going to fall back to my previous excuse, which is terrific. That's another word. The Dutch guy. Stay touch guide never leaves. But I'm allowed to do that because I speak ditch. And by all the people. Here's me now day, no to men, they know that the digit crazy when it comes to speaking English, whatever they call it. Well, these were enlighten their little bit. Yeah. But I'm still going to give any Clinton. She's been in the south Bush's. Yes. She lives in Arkansas governor's wife, and that's pretty south. Then you you hear this time south south Alabama. It's not Bana. Bam. Bam and not not not Georgia. Not by. Yes. I realize I realized by the way, just speaking eo, see. That she kind of. I I don't know if this is if I could make this accusation. But I think you subscribe to at least part of what the New Democrats just as Democrats the AO seas of the world are the New York Times describes as modern monetary theory. Have you heard this term? Yeah. Well, I hadn't. But apparently whenever you tell you what it is exactly the moment. But I I've heard it many time the modern monetary theory is that we should be able to print as much money as we need to. Sorry makes me laugh just thinking. Well, you're the guy. That's always saying we should be printing. A lot more than we already are. You have at least in the past. I have said that. Because at the time we were trying to keep the Connery from collapsing. And we've done a pretty good job of it by printing a lot of money. But that doesn't mean you can go nuts. Right. Well, I just wanna put the term on the on our radar because the New York Times says that this is what Alexandra Akasa Cortez Alexander Cortez. Am allowed to do that I'm allowed to pronounce your name properly. Ridiculed to me. Your squeak is also ridiculing me. So the New York Times describes that as modern monetary theory. And that is what these people like AO you're talking about I presume you no longer. Subscribe to this print a trillion dollars. Will you know, it's more than just printing. It's using the might by the the bonds of it's not like you just printing money throwing it into circulation. It's not I don't know what they're thinking. It's not really being printed soul on paper. Well, here's what the time says proponents of modern monetary theory believed the US should borrow more than it does currently which is roughly one trillion dollars per year. Why worry the US considerably create the trillions needed to pay off all of that debt? And there's a flaw in that thinking right there. I don't know they come up with that. Well, they. There is underlying the theory. Even though it hasn't been executed yet. Even an starting in nineteen eighty nine. I've heard nothing, but this we can't be printing so much money. We're gonna have hyper inflation rut, which is not a Kurd because we're in a depression type in a Konami which are going down to get to get it back to normal the one or two percent inflation rate. You have to put a lot of money to kind of creating hyperinflation at two percent based on the fact that it should prices should be dropping like Iraq and everything should be damned near free. Now. That said if you do crank it up and really start literally printing money by the boatload. Yes, that will cause hyperinflation than you can pay off these debts with inflated money because you know, we'll be carrying around trillion dollar notes. Like, they did, you know, get connotes. The why Martin trillion dollars note said here banks, we've just paid back pain. Back. Unfortunately, now, everything costs trillion dollars. But right. I don't know these guys are they're kind of lunatics. We'll just keep it on the trust of Federal Reserve. Brow? Let me write that time code down. That's a good show opener. I trust the Federal Reserve. Jeez. Well, of course, the next thing I would say is clip here. Douchebag clip. Oh. Okay. God arma douchebag. You've been watching family guy again. All right. Well, while you were doing that I was latching onto the hottest new thing in the climate change world. We've been tracking it since the beginning of this show. This is also one of the oldest jingles we have. I'm pretty sure as a on a predictive note, we've I we I have always said, you just wait all of a sudden they're going to start implementing this and going to say, yeah, we were testing it all along great. It works. It's fabulous. It's fantastic. Nothing to worry nothing to see here spray away. So this proposal is to use solar geo engineering to reduce temperature is in essence a way to mitigate some of the risks that climate scientists are saying will come from CO two emissions. So in essence, it's actually an alternative to lowering carbon emissions and some see it as a magic bullet in this way, where we can curb the effects of co two emissions while continuing to pump millions of tons of co two into the air. So this type of engineering uses sulfur dioxide. We're going to inject that into the stratosphere sulfur dioxide is the stuff that comes out of all came when they arrived. So one of all kaneohe erupts. There's actually a lot of dust and gases that blot out the sun. So. These Harvard researchers the scientists are saying that we can mimic what happens after a volcano eruption to reduce temperatures and the way they're going to do that is airplanes they say fleet of specially designed can literally spray sulfur particles into the lower stratosphere. And they're saying, hey, dozens of nations already have the money to do. So I mean, it's not like mince any words what we're proposing. Here is launching era souls into the air. So historically, there's been a problem with this and critics of this type of ju- engineering say look, no one really knows how to control it. With accuracy. This could easily disrupt climates around the world inevitably leading to winners and losers with some regions suffering greater harm. But now, these researchers are saying it can work without some of those anticipated side effects like extreme and hurricanes. They're saying that this work challenges that assumption darker good night all the time. And that's the question. Do we have the right? She'll. Okay. So these researchers say it'll cost three point five billion to launch. And then two point two five billion every year after that. It'd be worth if it's actually able to slow down global true. Do we want to put that kind of power in certain hands? That's all up for public debate. And you know, some people are saying, hey, maybe it's cheaper to just bio engineer, humans that we have a conscious that we saw pleading. Lunatic. What crazy show is this? Was that the millennial on RT? God I like her though, they've got these these these millennials running around as young kids at our T, and they cope with great stories. This is based upon research from Harvard and Harvard actually had we had the clip about weeks ago being shot into upper atmosphere not to lower. Well, now, it's just to throw some airplanes up there. No problem there already good to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Oh, two three years for years. I'm wearing a tin foil hat. I'm a nutjob, crush dot info. You are in that job. We'll talk about millennials. Then if you wanna go in that direction, I caught him Elenio. That was rather insulting. Oh, I'm just kidding. Course. I love I love. I caught him Elenio on with what stop right there. I caught him Eleni is just a statement by itself. My only question is was it in the trap. Did you get into the cage dry? Baleno is with her Granddad. They're both Jewish and I only have these clips for the one reason is that it showed up on. It was a discussion about Israel and Palestine, and is the modern millennial and the the old man is eighty six year old Granddad, and they d- granddaughter. And there are you with each other? But one is the millennial. She's a millennial, and it's mostly really listened her because I love she up talks like like outrageous up talker. Young a know it all and Rome shows I didn't get to see her. It's on world p it's a it was a radio show and she's going on and on. And he would I wanna play. These clips forum. They're very short to for the first one and play the first one. And that is give you an idea what this is about and Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has emerged as the winner in yesterday's general election. His main challenger Bennett Gaunt's the blue and white party conceded defeat today Netanyahu has now become Israel's longest serving prime minister ever. And he's expected to form a solidly right-wing governing coalition in Israel's parliament that trend toward the right is one of the reasons that the American Jewish communities relationship with Israel's government is increasingly fraught. Some see the divide as generational that includes twenty four year old Alissa Rubin a community organizer living in Boston Rubin is a member of if not now a Jewish anti-occupation movement. That is a source of anguish for her grandfather eighty six year old Jason Pearl. A lawyer in Bloomfield, Connecticut, I have spent a great deal of time with Lissa. She was growing up, and it comes as quite a shock to me that she could have an attitude toward Israel different from grab for many years. Grandfather and granddaughter have been debating US policy toward Israel today. They're letting us listen in when I was about oh, eight to ten I was at a men's breakfast in my synagogue, and someone who had in fact escaped. From Europe was telling the men assembled there on a Sunday morning, telling them about the annihilation of European jewelry, and they castigated this man, they yelled at him liar. It's not true. The Germans would never do this. I mean, they were vital to protest or this band that it was impossible that the Germans were bent on annihilating. European jewellery by grew up knowing there was this great need for a land. That would accept Jews. A listen doesn't have that experience. She knows that she's intellectually brilliant. And she knows these things happen, but she didn't live through them. And there's a big difference. So this is modern Jew theory than now they've went to the keyword. Here was Elissa is intellectually brilliant. Yes is the Granddad in the granddaughter by. His standards, by the way, you always you. Listen to him. He sounds like an Easter kind of cough up some phlegm, the style of speaking you Ryan. Anyway, her intellectual brilliance from the next you clips is out of zany left in this clip. No is on display here, we go Elissa through the thirties and forties to agree with your grandfather that you see the world differently because of that. Because of the time you grew up in. Yeah. We've had this conversation a lot of times, and it's really helped me to found in the perspective of somebody that grew up during a really different time. I think major shift that's happened over the last few years, particularly since Trump's election and the growth of this right wing, white nationalist movement is that I've really started seeing anti-semitism expressed in this country in a more visceral way than I've ever experienced it before. And I think where the difference lies is that I see the US and Trump's relationship with the Israeli government and with Netanyahu as fueling that anti-semitism and not protecting us from it. Oh, luckily, we can blame Trump for. It shows. Trump's for the Jews apparently have become anti-semitic. The guy has so much magical power. She has intellectual brilliant person. So us, listen, the more of her because I just think he's hilarious. It feels like attention for me to know that I don't believe that the way that Israel is currently set up or the way that our whole world orders that up is really living out the values of Judaism. And I acknowledged the really deep historical connection that we have to this place in having been there has been a really complicated experience for me. And I also did feel this sense of connection. So she's been there was some sense it connects you also has a lot of vocal friend up talking. But I was fascinated by this because I realized that the it's the educational system in this country that is getting a Jewish girl to hate, Israel and Jews. Let's listen. Your best example of up talking is home on how do you? How do you take it from its Trump's fall to its educational system? Well, I have to assume that could well, I'm giving the educational system. The the blame on this be credit. What I'm hearing is the same kind of just memes and thoughts and a way of looking at things that you would get from university of California or swath more or Harvard or Yale or any of these places that have been brainwashing. These kids into the stance. I just think that's where it's coming from. She's not getting it from her family know, for sure certainly not. So this is the final if we don't criticize only don't hold maybe accountable. We don't hold our people in the American Jews that support Israel unquestioningly than we are selves are putting putting ourselves in a dangerous situation where right now the mainstream. Jewish community is aling itself with Trump in with anti-semites, white nationalist, all in the name of protecting and supporting Israel. And so I think that there we make this implicit assumption that Israel equals Jews and juice safety equals, Israel, and I feel like in this moment. There's actually been a shift where Israel in its current in the way that Israel is currently operating is actually making us less safe. And I believe that Jews and all people deserve to be safe. She believes that all people deserve to be safe. And that his her per analysis of the whole. So man. The educational system for this. I try what she says in his all Trump's fault. And again, she reiterates that Jews flocking to Trump is just promoting anti-semitism. That's the part that she doesn't really know that Trump's daughters Jewish and Trump might be himself, and it no, no, it's just the same. And I is not even anti Trump is anti republicanism. Which is being taught in schools is not at Trump just happens to be there, and he's an easy target. But it's not Trump. It's republicanism while this is clearly they sign of the end of times. This is talking. Dow just the thinking she has by itself. Is very is very troubling. It's kinda self-contradictory. I think we need a visit from the end Djelic initiative. It's one of the really sad things about all this. Now, let's see to come common. So we read where it seems like people just don't care. What's true or what's real care? What's actually going on? This is new episode. I you hooked me. Now could tell exactly what's going on. Yeah. Until that's relatable in clear and relevant to their own personal life, very relevant, and the people just wouldn't wanna listen to it. They don't wanna hear such a bummer for them. I don't want to do it and you, but they don't even want to listen. And it's really weird. I think it's actually better this latest crew because they raise knowledge there is God. And the first crew was arguing that God's scam. That's true. Which was really I don't even know where you start with that in this latest crew, they at least know there's a God, I seem to be on board that they're on. There. Higher powers. But then it all breaks down because they don't seem to care about reality. Reality matters. It does matter. Have to watch them every morning. Dan me from running that stuff and you're doing. This something about him something about that's true. It's still stuck this true. Actually, I do have just fit this one. In before we go into our break. There was an interesting piece on scene it which I chopped down quite a bit. And it was about the Facebook. What they call it. The protection team the truth task force. Protection? Now, it's the Facebook protection. It's I think truth task force is their actual name the Facebook truth task force and their entire mission in life is to truth. Yes. Make sure that whatever you see in your face bag news. Feed is true. There's something interesting about this group, though, fake news is waging war and your Facebook newsfeed and the people on the frontlines of the battle are women. We recognize that it's kind of unique to have this team working on something that's critical to the company and given that there's a sense of pride surpri company company and makes it kind of a special team door on Campbell. Brown a longtime television news journalist heads up the news partnerships team, we need to regain the trust of people who are on Facebook who engage with news on Facebook. And then we. Need to regain the trust of publishers? Also Brown's group works with the news product team also led by a woman, Alex Hardiman, catching the theme here. They decide what kind of stories show up in your Facebook newsfeed, and what shouldn't see the why today just to stay at the office. We are at a crazy moment in time. Where a lot of people really don't trust the news in the information that they see. And that is an incredible problem that we have to solve we have heads of state who are an active warfare with really good credible. News organizations and Mets deeply problematic. Individual. Changes where responsibility is. His from. In with spreading and leading to real world, real and abroad. To prevent it from peering for move. It. It's a massive complicated undertaking and one that will change what you see in your Facebook. Feed. Facebook strategy is to lift news from trusted sources higher fake news and hoaxes will still be there. But push farther down with links from fact checks provide context, but what this team apart is its members Facebook where men outnumber women almost two to one. This team is led by two female division heads and women make up the majority of its product leaders. They are fearless. They are fierce. And it's because we think about how you wanna spend your time for many of us. There's no greater thing that we can try to do them to solve these problems as best as we can does that matter. It may research shows women lead teams with greater diversity are more successful than the norm success of this planet. Biggest social network has high stakes their decisions can shape the future of journalism and affect elections were not. Not just doing a job. It's working on incredibly hard problems. That are going to define the future for children that future. We'll still have hoaxes misinformation and conspiracy theories, but Facebook is putting women on the frontline of your news feed hoping to turn the tide is quite insulting besides being insulting. I would like to know the political backgrounds of each of these women. Yes, it did a ballot diverse. Didn't do they mean diversity of opinion or just once black and one once? Once a all answer the question having watched the piece when they say diverse than they shot to they cut to an an Asian woman. And then a black woman and back to the white woman. Okay. So the diversity is just the diversity of skin color, skin, color, skin, color, diversity. But no opinion diversity. There's was anyone wearing maga- hat. I doubt it. No. Yeah. So this is just rigged. It's raised the problem. They they're the problem. Not the solution. They're fiercely the problem. Yes. Very fiercely. The prob it is problematic. I don't like we'll see of course, also run by by women at the top. Lindsay. What's her name turpentine? Forget her last name. But yeah, I find this troubling Lindsey turpentine. That's not not for real. No agenda. Imagine all evil who could do pull. Yeah. That'd be. Do you think starting with Robert smiley, sir? Robert of the SUV Vidh is in Holland PA. And he's going to become a Baronet, very nice rubbing dyke would think is, sir. He's in a Nederland somewhere hundred. Alexander souls burger eight oh, eight in Delaware. 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Although in Australia, they had the Sydney meet up and they brought along the goat's head you. See those pictures. No, I did not see the picture had an actual goat's head and are real head. Yeah. Yeah. Picture. No. There were pictures of our heads. But there was a real goat's head. The twentieth of April, the greater Atlanta meet up you can find out all about these meet ups that no agenda meet ups dot com. No agenda, meet ups dot com. No agenda, meet ups dot com. Also on the twentieth Portland. Oregon April twenty-seventh Zurich, Switzerland may second Seattle Washington may eighteenth Cincinnati Ohio may twenty fifth eastern North Carolina and may twenty fifth Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I love seeing this. I think this is such a good initiative. And I mean, it's a kind of busy in the next two months because we have the move, and then we have the wedding which team is still wants to livestream. This. Schrimm watch the wedding. Why I don't issue for donations? She said, we can you assure you can get donations extreme the wedding. I like the idea for the donations. But I know it's kind of a private thing. It seems to me. I said, I'm okay with the ideas long as she puts a gopro on her head a what a gopro ago. Yeah. That would be great. Hey, actually. I see I knew I could get kids some wedding photographers and make sure the couple of shots. TR? Also, I want to bring back promotion for the no agenda player. Our producer Isaac who created no agenda player. No agenda player dot com, which is one of the best resources. We got a lot of great resources, but you can go to know agenda player dot com, and you can link straight into any segment of the show and helps you create a link to that or you can tweet it right away. Now as added bonus because he was doing the NO which kind of, you know, fell by the wayside is very difficult to annotate the just to keep up any work. We've seen this many times on the show people have very helpful. 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I don't know if anyone's described getting should have been some just a free giveaway 'cause you're on a list of people over a certain age. The that's even worse, whatever whatever other stuff. Well, I got a couple of news items. I want to get out of the way already. I want to get this story out of the way because I just nother one of many of these stories, I do not know somebody can't take actual somebody. Can't do something about this. Unbelievable ripoffs that are going on about with the drug companies because they're just GAM ING insurance company. So the Jack the prices up because you end up having to pay more for your insurance you wanna way of cost much, but here's the latest in the series of these bullcrap stories as insulin. Carson no one should be rationing insulin. No way do every day. The whole drug manufacturers and pharmacy reps were grilled today about the skyrocketing price of insulin. That has led some patients to ration the lifesaving drug being for a couple minutes. How frustrating it is to be on the side of the dice and watch everyone if you do this. Some studies say the under-use of insulin could affect nearly forty million people with diabetes by twenty thirty. Nobody cared or nobody understood that without this next file of insolent. I would live to see another. Other week twenty eight-year-old Kristen Whitney Daniels started rationing her insulin after she was kicked off her parents insurance plan two years ago. I can't really explain how isolated and how terrifying it is. She's Noah patient at the Yale diabetes center. Where a recent JAMA study found one in four patients reported cost related under-use. This is a wakeup call for us as a country. Doctor Kazi ellipse good treats patients, including Daniels. At the clinic was the study's lead author. She testified on Capitol Hill last week, this vile of insulin cost just twenty one dollars. When it first came on the market in nineteen ninety six it now cost two hundred and seventy five dollars. Some drug makers are already reacting to the outrage today Santa Fe announced it will cut the price of insulin for uninsured patients and those who pay cash to ninety nine dollars a month. But that doesn't eliminate advocates concern. Serves people are dying from lack of access to a drug. That's been around for almost a century. I think it's unconscionable. Insulin manufacturers told us today that they have taken steps to address prices including offering free medication to people who qualify. Jeff a wakeup call his rights. Thank you very much. Wake up call. This kind of thing can be, you know, the congress and everybody bitches and MOS I think the way to eliminate this ridiculous situation is to make it illegal for the major drug companies to own the generic drug companies. Yeah, that's all it would take. Because once they started figuring out that, hey, if we own the generic drug companies jokes on them about, you know, anything going off patent two things I learned about one is there is a a burgeoning. Do it yourself pharmaceutical industry? Doesn't surprise me. Yeah. It's interesting to look into them with all the technology. We have these days, you know, you can actually make a lot of stuff yourself. I'm not necessarily. Sure, you should do it thing. That was most interesting to me, you know, hospitals have different pricing for the same procedure. Even be between the hospitals like it can vary. Wildly like hundred thousand dollars more than the same procedure somewhere else at a different hospital. Right. I now understand why. And how that works. I understand the mechanism that was load balancing. Explain you may be you may be right. What do you mean load balancing will have some hospitals? Got for example. They have I know with. Cat scans and such and such and such there some places very there's a long waiting list. They charge a lot in someplace got nobody there, and they don't charge. Anything figure out what you places got the cheapest price, you know. So no, that's not how it works. Let's just take hospital because that's the only thing. I heard I read about it was hospitals. The hospital will talk, of course, to all of the insurance agencies, and maybe what three four big ones that gotta deal with us exclude Medicare and the the insurance company will say, well, let's let me see here last year. We gave you four hundred million dollars this year. We're going to do from three hundred eighty million. And then, you know, the hospital will go back say now we actually need four hundred ten or one hundred fifteen so they go back and forth until the arrive at a number. They just arrived at the overall number the insurance company promises to pay. The hospital for procedures and the hospital then has to back that number into whatever they did. It doesn't even go by individual treatments. It's total horsh shit. They just make up the numbers to fit it into the overall budget. That's not load balancing. That's just bowl crown. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That could be true. We had to look in. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm quite sure that this is going on everywhere. And yeah, that's the problem. And so just by publish notice. The wasn't there some regulation you have to publish the pricing on your website. Where'd that go that went nowhere? Because no one can really do that. You can't actually publish your price because they don't know that just backing it into whatever budget. They have it's disgusting and again during this ObamaCare conversation, which is back people conflicting healthcare versus healthcare insurance. So while healthcare may be a right? I guess healthcare insurance. I don't think is a right. Well. It's conversational. What does that even mean me something to talk about? Now before I get to my funny clips. At least mention the snowstorm because I think it's hurting our donations as usual in South Dakota turned winter white clouding visibility and pushing eighteen Wheeler off the road blizzard warnings spans six states from Minnesota to Colorado. Where crashes closed I seventy and both directions near Vail. The sand insult being sprayed is salt in the wound for areas still recovering from last month's flooding. Watertown, South Dakota is in the storms. Bullseye getting up to twenty four inches on top of the fifty six that's already fallen this year. That's nearly tripled the norm we joined Scotty Brinkman here while he was out treating the roads. He says this April storm is the biggest of the year fifty degrees yesterday and blizzard when it was degrees. Did you ever think you'd be out here in the truck blizzard? I didn't I figured we were done. I really did. When I said this storm was coming like what? Yeah. I'm just going to say, it's you know, now eleven years later were finally right about Chem trails. I'm gonna say harp has been operational. And what we've seen this in? This this past winter is extraordinarily strange. It is not stored narrowly. He has not just strange extraordinarily strange. And I look at the patterns, I look at how it's I do know beat about whether from my aviation days the patterns are very strange. And it's sometimes it goes, contrary to what popular belief is how the Jetstream would would push things. It's very very. Odd weather behavior. So I'm there I'm going to say that there's possible modification going on. I don't know why. Unless it's to bankrupt the United States. I don't think it's good for just for fun. I got nothing. You're right. It's for fun to let's go to a C span. Call in. Oh, all right because it got an eyesore out of this one. My concern is this president has been allow to get away win with a lot. When will it stop? You know, he degraded women and then women still support him. I can't understand that. He has the grated dependency. He doesn't make good decisions at all. And I believe that all his success because he putting people in place to make his whatever he's trying to do. Thankful the black. He's trying to block evidence every decree to me. He's a crook. And your eyeso-. Quoque? Now, I think this is problematic. Here's what we have. We have of course. We'd have that as ice. Oh, we have Armagh douchebag. We had. As a toughie. I know which one you like, no, no, no the two reds when I'm not going to do that. I want to that. What do you want? Do douchebag is pretty good things. Good because clearer. Yeah. Yeah. But I wanna just cut it off after I'm deuce bag just cut. It could have done that. I should have done that. I think that's the way to go. I did like Kennedy crying at the end. So I you know, I liked him. I've been collecting these man on the street things. Yes. Now, this one this one here. This one is going to kill you. It's can you. Find Finland on the map. The question is can you find Finland on the map 'cause nobody can? But there was a there's a little bit humor in this one that I wonder if because I didn't get it immediately. It took me like a couple of beats at least two beats all cheese. Finland known for its fish, obviously. Because of the fin. Yes. So is known for its fish, obviously. Words finn. What she should've said sharks than it would have been even better. Yeah. I can point to Finland on the map. I'm sure you can't like it for sure I've been there. Let me I've been defendant allow me to play something funny. We had some shakeups in. The department of homeland security also the secret service Trump is firing people what we talked about was possible analogy between what we're seeing in the president. And and studies violence and acting out particularly workplace violence, and we talked about the path the journey and pathway to violence when we see people using language despondency lashing out, blaming others obsess obsessive compulsive attachment to one issue in the inability to get off of it that in that case, it would be the border and and security on the border and immigration. And so are we the question we have to ask ourselves from behavioral senses are watching a president essentially on on his way to what we call a flash point. And are we now beginning to see him act out in the form of purging and mass firing and completely not listening to any logic? You know, when people say to him the law or policy is such and such and we would be violating the constitution or the law, and he simply dismisses it and fires people. And keeps doing it. Are we essentially watching a workplace violence incident play out at the highest level of our government is he acting out now. And we're does this go if I'm right about that workplace violence firing somebody suddenly workplace. No that he's kind of known for firing people from his old show. But but was this on CNN? That's my guess the this was sent to me by producer. I don't know the origin. What's I get CNN written surprise me? We had the kids over last night. The wanna tina's daughter's the one who's who lives here in Austin and her boyfriend, and she is now general manager at a nice restaurant, which is a complete. Career change for her he'd fill major, and she's really digging really into it. But now she's she has to bring her team together. And she's trying to hire people as she says she hasn't higher single one. Now, granted food service. And this is, you know, this is an independent restaurant is part of chain if hell of a horrible business and food services where you know, kids go to to get some change just just work this. But she said of don't fifteen interviews not a single one picked up on the clue when she asks questions like, you know, what do you hope to get out of this? If you're doing an interview, you'll say, something smart, it'll get you the job. An example would be well, I hope to work with a great team really looking forward to, you know, serving great food anything it just make it up. No every single one say, I really don't care. I just wanna make some money until I find something better every single every single one. Well, I mean, it's okay. If you want to be honest, but I mean, giving an in doing an interview there's a little bit of smarts necessary. Yeah. You got to get to say something other than just here for the short term babe with without fail every like noodle. Boy. One guy actually said what's the what is your discipline policy? Let the. SM or? I want to protect the identity. But it was you know, like, what is your? Of course, the first thing to do was go. Look this person up. Did they have issues of not showing up or maybe they were on a sex offender list and all of the above are true. But the millennials who just they don't here's a tip from your Adam. Even if you just doing it to get by don't say that. Get that beyond them. And one of their here's a courses Kristen gillibrand Kirsten Kristen. And this is my one of my favorite cups. I had the kind of play with a little bit understandable. But this is her discussing nuclear armaments, and she has kind of Newt that even know this existing. You'll is that are tactile what you're saying. Is you want to use them? No, no miss Jill, LeBron if it's tactile that means you can feel it you'd doofus. Say all we have to have equal threat at this is usable that it's better threat. I just. Not believable. I just I try to create nuclear weapons that are usable. So I posed the entire because about one provision. So I if I president I waited victory unwind not completely. And I think we should be trying to create tax. Nuclear weapons. Said knowing the defense Bill because a tactile new town nukes, and I gotta write this. How about haptic new add that too? Tactile nukes what an idiot. Is she all there's another idiot Nancy Pelosi? We are asserting Congress's long established responsibility in the. Oversight of military force. And also limiting Americans engagement in this war, which is going on for too long. I think all agree. It's so said the president must sign this legislation where some bipartisan support by camel legislation that we will sending him to advance a peaceful endurance solution to an horrific -tarian. Vice president's place. Turn in. So she actually signed her name on this Bill where the vice president's name should be and goes UCS. Well, he can figure it out. Then and she was doing that thing where you write each letter with the different pen. Yeah. I find this souvenir. Yeah. This is really irks him, and I wanted to stop as an American citizen signed the document just sign it give that one pen away. Do whatever you want. You know, put it on e bay donated to charity, but this twenty pens, just she's like okay in half of the end. And she gets another pen here. You can even hear it. Down picking up. Another one throwing down picking up. Another one throwing down another one. Legislation. I think Obama started that I don't think so I think that goes on going on. Okay. And then this is one of my finals professor Steve Cohen showed up and gave Maggie Haberman credit for something. I believe that we created namely the Trump rotation. I think. Yes. Well, this is the palling because we have one of our guys who wants to do some booking for some interviews. And he got a hold of Steve Cohen refuses to be interviewed really by us or just in general or podcasters. I don't know. Really? Yeah. So Mollie Hemingway who of the federal I pointed out that there's a cycle that the press goes through in their Trump hatred that they I go into Russian collusion who wear the Russian me off. And there was no tasha and Paul Manafort and all these things who they had the Russian and then that blows up because it's all nonsense all completely ridiculous. And when that's exposed they go into racism, oh, the racism, he was Donald Trump, this shooter new-zealand reference, Donald Trump, the image of him that we created inspired him. But, but it's somehow Trump's fall Trump says some of the same words, he speaks English speaking. It's incredible. And the connections are just endless who can say. I mean, he walks upright. And so they and then that falls apart and people start to kind of roll their eyes when all of that won't wash. They go back to the routine that he's crazy. Well, I'm pretty sure I couldn't find this this article of hers or just a little earth hymning ways when he cited what did I say, you said how Berman oh Hemingway. Is she related? I doubt it. So I think we came up with the Trump rotation. We have a win ago Trump rotation dot com, and I'm a little disappointed on this thing is two years. All we we put it up right after Trump got inaugurated, I'm disappointed that we're big fans of professor Cohen. Not only does he not give us credit. Okay. Can happen. But then to refuse to be interviewed. Yeah. When he's being shunned by everybody. Anyway, nobody wants to be interviewed put him on the air because he has too many positive things to say about Russia. Okay. For you. When you when you come crawling back to us. Duck to me, and we're just gonna go. Do arm adduced by. Yeah. No. I'm sorry, Fresno. And even if you say that you're not getting back in not going to happen. Good. News Brussels is the first major city to halt the rollout of five G. We s very smart, Brussels. And it should tell you something. That's where the deaths where the EU is centered. The he'll want to radiate or not it's not really true, radiation, gamma radiation. It's but they don't want to our f- to death their own people. The same goes for the town of Moraga all twenty nineteen hearing tech companies and cell phone companies talking about all the excitement about five t and the race to get their first. But tonight in Moraga they're talking about the fight against it sitting at her home office Ellie marks has a device that measures are f- exposure, she surrounded by campaign materials that she's used in a decade of pushing back against ever expanding cell phone towers for her. The fight is personal. Her husband started using a cell phone in nineteen eighty six and developed a brain tumor. In two thousand eight researchers do not agree right now about what constitutes safe or if exposure, the FCC and cell phone companies maintain radiation exposure from cell phones is not dangerous. Thankfully, her husband pulled through. But it was her wakeup call. Now, she's taking on five G running parallel to this fight against five. G is the race to be the first country to have it. The US has been competing against China. Now all wireless companies claim they'll have five G this year, some have launched already. So what exactly is it possibly that? The internet runs will change because of this technology and share is editor at large for seen at news who follows five G he says it could change everything from education to AI to healthcare editor at large as an important job. Because this guy sounds like a nincompoop. It's just a it's just a title for somebody to know. What title? Okay. Jack shit. It's all about speed. So the promise of five it's going to be significantly faster. So think of being able to download a movie within minutes, this example, which is always hold on a second. I'm all I know what you're going to say, I'm one hundred percent on your side on this is a Corable example. And it's always the first one you'll be able to download a movie in two minutes, bro. I click play on Netflix. It starts. Immediately is called streaming ever. Hear of it seen it, by the way, editor at large the only way that you would download is legally. Generally. Thank you, add to that promoting illegal behavior and unlawful content net. So the promise fighting movies, it's going to be significantly faster. So think of being able to download a movie within minutes instead of waiting a long long time also editor large to think that that's how the internet works. I mean what? Yes, if the movie is located at your ISP or one hop away. Yeah. Might might download really really fast. If sitting on my little server somewhere else, it may not download very fast Kanar to maintain the speedy connection. Cellphone companies claim they need additional cell towers in communities like Moraga Ellie says she'd rather see these companies stick to fiber. There's a better way to do it. And that would be fiber to the premises. We don't need these so-called small cells every few homes in our communities. Forget that is happening. I learned something in the second clip, Sean. That the local municipalities such as Austin really have no power over this five G rollout. And it's a legal issue, which I didn't understand until now so many local governments will also say when it comes to this argument. Their hands are tied which makes them reluctant to take any kind of action regulating public safety surrounding cellphone towers is something that only the federal government. And in some cases, the state government can do so local governments are left to do things when it comes to public right of way. But if they get in the way of the permanent process, they are at risk of being sued, which is something that happened in nearby Piedmont. So they are understandably being careful. Yes. We've actually did have talked about we did shocker safety issues. Cannot be part of the reason for refusing to put these things up it has to be a static. Or there has to be some other crazy thing got a dream something that's creative. Now, there's another little tidbit that I have run into interestingly enough China. China wants to roll out five G, they wanna go nets about it. Just learning this. No, that's what I learned. China's five G is two point six gigahertz. Now, really they're just rolling the protocol out over the existing. Well, the existing two point three or would I WI fi is to three I guess, but they're yes, they're not doing the millimeter wave five because they don't wanna kill their own citizens. So they're doing it two point six the whole thing the entire country's going to be rolled out at that frequency fi and just going to be called five G. But I don't what's this is not been discussed. It's also that you can't get the bandwith you're talking about if you're going to do if you're going to do that. I don't think you can get the band with you can get three what what is the max maybe five hundred megabits per second of two point six two point two point. I think you could have multiple channels maybe pick up a gigabit. Or maybe more. Okay. But not the ten gigabits. They're talking about. No, you do need a super by band with. You're gonna just have one channel. And you're gonna be pulling as much as you can't fit. But this things got to go through the walls of your house. The windows are our problem with millimeter waves. But isn't it interesting that you got deep platform from PC magazine for questioning this? And now again, it's just like the Chem trails. This is your Chem trails. John five is your Chem trails g my friend. And that will hopefully I'll have some good stuff. I can continue to bitch and Monae, but just a target for me. Now, you're all Judy would. Ginny would. Special end of show ditties we got here. We've got sir. Timothy cervix Jesse coin Nelson and Felix Wilson. Wilson with a special reading of no agenda children's book. Felix apparently is offspring of Chris Wilson in Australia as I code switch to. Looking forward to seeing you all and Sunday coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas capital their own star states female region. Number six the governmental maps in the five nine Cleo in the morning, everybody. I am Adam curry from northern Silicon Valley, divorced. 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207 How to Control Your Attitude & Why Does It Matter, with Julie Ann Sullivan

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207 How to Control Your Attitude & Why Does It Matter, with Julie Ann Sullivan

"Aging and inspiring workplace cultures in each episode you'll find ID's to implement into your own organization forbid a recruitment retention welcome to the businesses that cave podcast your host. Julianne Sullivan has searched the globe for businesses that have creating everything that happens your thoughts change your actions change your destiny changes daily routines become a personal choice if you've been living as many of us do allowing the rest of the daily life taking control of your attitude you create a crucial difference and how you cope with hi there Julianne Sullivan here getting the opportunity to speak to you about one of my favorite topics attitude if you stomp into work with a scowl on your face your colleagues may not want to approach you with some vital information this is truly the one aspect of your life that you are entirely in control of I highly suggest superpower you have this may be your biggest hurdle so don't worry about it it means you're human in that situation if he could do that under those extreme circumstances so can you in your day I said decide what kind of attitude you want to have your body language the words you I wonder how this relates to your work environment think about this scenario which I'm pretty sure you have done or experienced it's definitely gonNA take some time getting used to taking control of your attitude is a lifelong journey up by understanding his attitude was the one facet of his life experience he could control Viktor Frankl wrote a tremendous book called a man's search for meaning he survived life in a concentration camp you realize you have expansive personal power over your attitude than your feelings your reactions even take for instance if traffic has always been a trigger in your life and makes you a tyrant behind the wheel I utilize this personal power and accepted as a gift along with its responsibilities when she world shape your attitude it can be a tough habit to change I there's acceptance of this pretty big doc no spend a lot of energy worrying when you falter just skip-back on the new path you've chosen to follow you might that behavior is what's GonNa pop up I in your mind when you get in traffic when you're ready the non have traffic rune your day it's GonNa take more than a week to change that automatic response give yourself a break really bad mood it's important to convince yourself that in fact you can decide that's right. I use the tone of your voice are all microscopes into your attitude you really can't hide it them might have consequences far into the future haven't you ever had someone walk up to you and say don't talk to dawn today he's obs- observe recognize change you can only change or celebrate white you notice your attitude comes through you like eating garlic comes through the pores of your skin on a hot summer's Day exact same situation finally think about and internalize what you've just learned in cloud is situation and stop you from thinking clearly you might miss what choices you think you have because a bad attitude gets in the way of seeing all of the alternatives a better attitude has benefits for your own don notice how you react then take ten seconds to find an alternative way to see the to your advantage first of all ask yourself whether you even pay attention to your attitude now elvis well there's a direct correlation between a good attitude and less stress this effects both your men becomes an example for others to follow when you like that to be a good example it's good if you do think about how your attitude affects your work performance if you don't pay attention to your attitude until and physical well being part of taking responsibility for your attitude is that the attitude you choose influence those around you so choose wisely I hope you're asking yourself how do I do that three steps the next time you have the opportunity to recognize an experience in your day that's different than what you plan more often see the opportunities the benefits and then move towards them think about how your then that information will be available to you next time and so many facets of life can get in the way of this process how it affects your life and what you can do about it here are some questions to help you change your attitude you zero four eight six let's start working together right now it even being hungry or tired can affect your reaction time to choose a new attitude attitude is in important an integral piece of your life today is the day to start thinking about your attitude in a new way looking for some inspired leadership coaching to help with this idea or are you ready to focus on your organization and take you to the next level of success from the inside out Gimme a call at seven two four nine four work environment would be different if you decided to see opportunities where you once saw annoyances ask yourself what benefits you would discover if you did that's the way to find your own why why you might WanNa learn more about your own attitude and behavior that follows so you can take control of it in customer loyalty are you ready to create and sustain a bit of business culture. 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FunStuff Playlist 03: Do Dogs Use Facial Expressions to 'Talk' to Us?

BrainStuff

03:14 min | 1 year ago

FunStuff Playlist 03: Do Dogs Use Facial Expressions to 'Talk' to Us?

"The brain stuff a production of iheartradio brain stuff. Lauren Bulb. I'm here. If you're like me you love dogs possibly more than people some days. They're warm. Is Doggy. Grins have me wrapped around their fluffy popper tails and according to new research from the University of Portsmouth's dog cognition center dogs deliberately make more facial expressions when we're watching them and it could be their way to communicate with us. The study was led by Dr Juliane Kaminski and published in two thousand seventeen issue of scientific reports. Kaminsky and her research team came to their conclusion after watching twenty four different dogs all family pets of varying breeds in ages. Each dog was filmed individually in a room with a person who went through various scenarios including looking at the dog looking away from the dog and giving the dog food the scientists then studied the dogs facial expressions using the dog facial action coding system or dog facts which is a scientific tool for coating canines facial movements it was adapted from the facts system created for humans back in nineteen seventy eight Kaminski and her team discovered that each dog made animated faces when the person in the room was looking at it including raising its eyebrows and sticking out its tongue a much more than when the person's back was turned in a press statement. Dr Kaminski said the findings appear to support evidence that dogs are sensitive to humans attention and expressions are potentially active attempts to communicate not simple emotional displays. Most surprisingly is that even the presence of food didn't influence the dogs as much as human affection Kaminski said we knew. Domestic dogs paid attention to how attentive a human is in a previous study. We found for example. The dog stole food more often when the humans eyes were closed or when they had their back turned in another study we found. Dogs followed the gaze of a human. The human I establishes contact with the dog so the dog knows that the gays shift is directed at them. Kaminsky says it's possible that the expressions of dogs have changed as they've become more domesticated but the study does have its limits. Twenty four canines makes for a small study samples. So it's likely that more dogs should be study to confirm these findings which sounds like an excellent research session to me. Today's episode was written by Sarah. Climb and produced Tyler Clang for more on this and lots of other tail wagging topics visit our home planet. How stuff works. Dot Com brain stuff is production of iheartradio for more podcasts. My radio the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hello this is Ron Burgundy. And you're listening to my voice which commands trust and respect. Guess what my podcasts is back and that's a win for everyone. If you're a long-time listener to the show. You probably already know the deal. Each week I bring you hard hitting journalism and also Light Entertainment. I contain multitudes. Find the Ron Burgundy podcasts. On the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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AP One Minute Headlines Feb 01 2019 21:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

02:45 min | 2 years ago

AP One Minute Headlines Feb 01 2019 21:00 (EST)

"Source. America elevates what it means to buy products and services your contract creates jobs for people with disabilities right here. In the US at source America, you can look forward to exceptional customer service grounded in contract expertise and specific industry knowledge. You'll get the products and services you need when you need them at a competitive price source America offers business solutions, you'll feel good about learn more at source, America dot org source America is an authorized ability one enterprise. Okay, guys. Welcome to our Q one AGM planning quarterly review central meeting. Business can be complicated. But travel doesn't have to be with my taxi business. You can download receipts and manage multiple bookings. Online makes us smarter choice of mytalk Tuksy dot com. Demands. For governor to resign. I'm Tim Maguire, the AP news minute, Democrats and Republicans say Virginia democratic governor. Ralph Northam should resign after nineteen Eighty-four medical school yearbook photo page show him either in black face or a Klan robe. He has apologized admitting to being one of the two in the photo. He did not say he would resign democratic presidential hopefuls Juliane Castro and Kamala Harris as well as the NWEA P all say he should step down. President Trump is withdrawing the US from a nuclear arms treaty because Russia's defied the nineteen eighty-seven pack for years. I hope that we're able to get everybody in a very big and beautiful room and do a new treaty that would be much better. But cassette me I would like to see that the treaty eliminated medium range nuclear armed weapons. Russia has six months get back into compliance before the US withdrawal is complete. I'm Tim McGuire. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lack your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only ballot on certain thirty year fixed rate loans, offer cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lack your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only about on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states animal last night. Molest number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply.

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Craig Robinson | The Wright Thing

Late Night with Seth Meyers Podcast

16:56 min | 4 months ago

Craig Robinson | The Wright Thing

"This may come as a surprise but my family is ready to get out of the house. So i did a search on the virgo app. Got vacation homes anywhere. Your family wants to go. We found the perfect beach house. That was just a drive away. It has an outdoor kitchen a pool and a game room for the kids so we can really unwind and relax check out the verb. Oh app for whatever kind of vacation. Your family needs that's virgo. Vr b. o. Dot com your together awaits from thirty rockefeller plaza new york city. Please enjoy this gas. Addition of late. Night with seth meyer's late night is off until twenty twenty one but today you'll hear excess interview with craig robinson from the office which streaming exclusively on peacock starting next month. But i late night rider jeff. Right explains my east jealous of donald trump. Forty six minute video. He posted on his twitter and facebook last week. President trump once again claimed that last month's presidential election was rigged here to talk about it is one of our writers jeff right and our segment. The right thing would jeff right. What do you do in the good people of the world. So jeff what do you think of the president's last post after a lot of ways about the president. When i saw that new post. I realized i'm jealous of them said really. You're jealous. yes he does what he wants. Says what he wants offends who he wants. And seventy four million people still like. Yeah but i'm pretty sure. Eighty million people who beg to differ seventy four million eighty million. You know how many people like me eight actually seven because james mad at me for not texting them back. But it's like i get busy but the truth is i'm not that busy as as james isn't that fun to text with really you're that jealous. Trump may have lost the election. trump is unbeatable set. He's treating america like a game grand theft auto. As far as i'm concerned he's meeting every mission. You really think so josh. The even beat the cove mission if this was really grand theft auto trump and his friends who have at least five stars is still not even be arrested and even if they did get arrested he would just part in them. I'm really jealous. That magin being able to pardon people. Oh so if you pardon people you would damn right. I would in. Fact start with me. Because i took your cup of pencils replaced it with the sandwich. Wait you did. What took your pencils. But is okay as they say in the white house. Pardon me. oh that's not how that works but thousand part is good sir. No not at all but jeff. You shouldn't be jealous. That donald trump. Because it's so wait you took back your sandwich. No took your samples. I'm sorry but blaine wrongdoing as part of the trump plan and for debt. May i truly be pardoned in the name of the pardon. The other party in the holy party jeff. I'm i'm pretty sure you have no idea what party is. I can't believe i'm saying this but you shouldn't just run around acting like the president. Of course i should. We all should just make stuff up and pretend it's true. Did you see. When trump brought out his little graph. You can telegraph. Is the only way they explain things tool. He's a visual learner. Which is a polite way of saying. He can't read. Did you believe his graph. Oh no but i like that he did. And i think a graph vista. That's why i came with my own graphs. Cena's graph right here shows why i deserve a raise okay. This line represents america's happiness. Before i got on your show and this is happiness after its overnight. Surge of happiness son. Did you just make up yourself. Yeah d- just like he did in either even brought sharpie because everyone knows a permanent ink. Marker makes it a fish. You know what. I'm gonna give myself a race. How much money you give yourself per year. Five hundred million dollars. Five hundred million dot come on jeff. That's crazy praise trump this last election fair point. And i'm gonna give myself a ps five. Because i deserve it so look all i'm trying to say is. Trump has had a run. No one could see coming. How many presidents can say. They've been impeach part their friends who have committed crimes and still finished a full turn. Truly inspirational. I guess that's one way to look at jeff right. Everybody pardon me. Pardon me no sir. This may come as a surprise but my family is ready to get out of the house. And i mean out so i was pleasantly surprised when i found the virgo app. It's a vacation rental site that has vacation homes anywhere. You wanna go super easy to find the perfect one for the whole family. We knew we wanted to escape the cold and found the perfect beach house. That was warm but still driveable. It has a massive outdoor kitchen a pool and even a game room to keep the kids occupied and give us a chance to really unwind and relax. You should check out the verbal app. Whatever kind of vacation your family needs. They will have the perfect place that's verbal. Vr b. o. dot com. You're together awaits. You don't gas from nbc's office in films such as pineapple express in this is the end. He hosts the mask dancer. Which premieres sunday december twenty seventh on fox. Please welcome back to the show. Our friend craig robinson everybody. I'm doing craig. Oh my god. It's so good to see you and i can't. I can't help but notice. I'm featured on the wall there behind you good to see you buddy these my my my seth meyers high-school college photo travel poses know. I don't think i think we printed a. Let's see i think twenty thousand of those and only sold the one these nice. They help with anxiety lag. Xining were right now. Calm you down man. They all have their own based on those. You must. you must be happy that. I've been growing the hair longer during these trying times. Wrote the episode. Where you at the very a closer to where you had the white suit. You are being james spader. Oh my god. it was second to second brilliance but at the cost to people people people. Don't talk about seth. Meyers not all the talents. You get man you go into any voice. Oh you you're a fan of. I would say i'm very middle of the road. Impressionist but this very kindly juliana julia sierra juliane particularly good mitch mcconnell a lovely mr craig robinson air this grant you know. I'm very troubled by the fact that where to get those pictures of seth meyers evil. German voice mr happy here but we do. Have some questions about your masks. You very troubling for me. Dennis miller craig robinson. Hand you win. You don't get enough credit home. Thank you my friend you are. You are my friend. Look the i love the sea. Captain see now. This is good to hear because nobody nobody gives the sea captain any respect but the warranty duck. See earth ira you know. I feel that we can bring ira back in the new year because we did establish eastern brooklyn. And there's no reason why couldn't join us in the studio. Please bring him back. Also i googled the movie internal issues and it hasn't been new movie. Podcast aband- a superpower. This is as interviews go. This is my favorite ever aluminium. Craig this is. This is so kind and i wanna i wanna talk about you too. I mean i look. How did the rabbit go up to the kids. Oh okay so For those who aren't you know. Craig robinson level fans of the show. My dad Said he was going to visit the next time. You visited my kids. Because they like the white rabbit and allison wonderland and he was going to dress up like the way rabbit and craig. You mentioned this. We wanted to let you know exactly how it went boom. Look at that man wilson. Family man you'll see you you have you been through this are you. Are you staying healthy through quarantine. I i remember you saying you're vegan. You still vegan popeye's chicken today so today i was. I've been. I've been working out. You'll go to the park stuff. I start writing a musical. That's great that's right in your wheelhouse jersey. Boys wait i have. I have a son now. This is very exciting mask. Dancer is very exciting. To make sense. You were contested on the masked singer. I don't take this wrong way. I feel like you were the fastest guest person ever on the show yes. I wasn't contested. I was a guest host. That is more sense. I hadn't watched the show before. I got to be the guest hopes. Now i'm hooked on it. And i can't wait for people get hooked on mass dance now. This is this. Is you and a mask craig. And i feel like compared to a lot of the masks on the show. This is not a lot of face coverage is just some curve ball. I hope people just people knew right away and now this is. I'm guessing on the mass dancer. Does it is it. Is it hard to guess people. Because you're not you're not hearing their voice right i think so. It's hard for me to guess two singers. So i think so even though have been watching the show i would've known paddle bills voice. So but what they do they give extra okay clue package and when this clues in dance routine. And then there's also they remove the voice modulation so you get to hear one word from the character and that word is also a clue so it's hard but they make it so if you're watching you can follow along now this show both the masked singer and i'm assuming the answer. These are very joyous affairs yet. The secrecy is taken very seriously like when when one of the contestants comes in they they take great steps to keep them an anonymous yes they they When it gets set to have on a black hoodie they can see through our but you can't see they have a shirt says don't talk to me Nobody allowed you know they're to trailer. They all day they take two or three cars. I thank god. I ride in the trunk. If you ever need a body in cancer and singer they are good with the secrecy. Are you a good dancer. Craig a jump to the conclusion that you are. I don't remember a party. We attended a post. Snl party anyway. I don't think it happened. But look i am a good dancer. I have some some strong moves not a lot of strong anymore. But you know. I got this. One is kind of a step mixed with salsa. The funny thing about it seth is. I don't know that i'm going to do. I never think about doing that. Move so when the music hits me right. That's when it comes out and start you know it's really interested you this very exciting for the good people at peacock. They're about to get the office which I don't need to tell you is more popular now than it's ever been. But i think other people are maybe a little upset. Because it's you know in order for this happened is coming down off. Other streamers and people are people are reaching out to you to see if you can do something about this correct. Oh yes there's this one person on instagram. That keeps contacted me saying. Please don't let them take the office of a netflix. And you know. I want to answer back but i kinda like them thinking. I have that power. What i'm saying like every couple of how many every couple of weeks maybe please don't take the says to me like i'm doing. Please don't take office of netflix. Got is getting a. It must be so rewarding The people continue to find the office. I feel like it's a show that One people watched it when it first came out. Continue to watch it young people find it all the time and love it as much as anyone ever did. How images must be fantastic to have been a part of this thing that has endured so long. Never pay me it was. It was a dream that you you know a dream come true but the interesting thing about me being on office. I love deadpan. Humor like my guys are like like leslie nielsen. In a a a sellers harvey korman yeltsin. The deadpan comedian. Right loved Something crazy's going on and you just acting like nothing happened so offices. All debt iraq. I saw the english version on a plane one time. I don't know how i came across. It loved it. Didn't see it didn't saw a picture. David brent on the side of a seven eleven. Oh i figured out how to watch bbc getting out and fell in love with the show ended up. You know it came around the audition in it was like b b deadpan with heavy. It was like sam dips from my life your So good in. You're the best thing in brooklyn nine nine. I say that as a dear friend of andy sandberg but you just blow them out of the water every time you're on stage with them on screen with wrote the we'd like to five year olds seek to kids just meeting to start playing. Yeah that's what it is man if if sandberg's acting like a five year old he's grown up since i last saw it is always so good to see you. Craig always such a pleasure. The mass dancer premieres december twenty seventh. Fox's late night with. Seth meyers weeknights. Nbc at twelve thirty five eleven thirty five central originally music on the late night podcast by hp ban. Don't forget the follow the handle late nights. Seth on social media and tell your friends subscribed to the late night podcast wherever they get their. Podcasts takes thousands of hours to become an astronaut right. Oh i'm not an astronaut design consultant at the container store but you explore space. I help you find space with our alpha clauses systems. And you're an expert pretty good at it and you use satellites to communicate. I'm doing more virtual in-home closet designs. But i wouldn't say salute you astronaut nina for helping us find space. You're welcome hurried. The container store to save thirty percent on all elvis systems at the container store. Where space comes from.

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1129: "Banging My Gravel"

No Agenda

3:01:35 hr | 2 years ago

1129: "Banging My Gravel"

"The files are still alive. They're alive, Adam curry, John, divorced. Fourteen twenty nineteen. This is your award winning keep one nation media fascination episode lemon twenty nine this is no agenda. Ready conspiracies and broadcasting live from the capital, the Jones store stayed here in downtown Boston in the colonial but morning, everybody curry in from northern Silicon Valley where I don't believe everything here read and just seed. Scale the money. All right, and is ever should becoming by just now, I timed it for such. And so all such is not the case and such as late this. Yes. Yes. Yes. Let's see. This is the let's see the only one more broadcast from this studio Claudio. Oh, yes. This one more one Thursday. And then Friday, we move everything out. Yes. Studio shutting down moving out party. I don't know. I'll be happy. If everything just works on Sunday from the new studio, and then we can celebrate. Let's make sure that happens. I little you never know you never gonna it at the other place. Yes, have connectivity. But as you know, I had do not yet have fiber because the home doesn't exist. Yeah. I don't have a mailbox yet. Either. I said they corrected or we gonna do something about that. Oh, no. After we talked about it on the show the next day. I got two calls from two supervisors told me this is unless show or Burr after the show, I told you after the show. Yeah. Kyushu providers. This problem. Actually should be one Suber and loser. Both both of these two supervisors referenced a third supervisor. So I've got Chris I've got ROY and have got Jake and this week the top guy. Yeah. This I think it's Chris. I'm not sure the problem is Jake the post awfully, you know, the post office, they do not give you their last names when you call them when they call you don't need to harassment. I'm sure, but they they will not give you their last name. I said, well, how do I ask for you? Just ask for Chris. Okay. This chris. Chris. So apparently, they all yes, we have a solution. We have found mailbox, and what didn't someone call you already ball. We're so surprised. No, no one called me. And that was oh there we go six days ago, and I still don't have mailbox. So that's the weekend. Yes. Exactly. Well, it was interesting to see Scott Adams this morning. It was he you know, he does his his little periscope. His periscope thing. He said, oh, there's no new so we'll just I'll just be taking your questions. There's a lot of news is a lot of news. A lot of things going on. I was just surprised I guess he only focuses on US political stuff. Eight he focuses on stuff that he can ridicule the response to. Yeah. And we'd be struck this way. And he look into look for the psychological underpinnings that have the public buffalo yet. We don't we don't ridicule ever at all for him reason. No that would be horrible. If we did that. But let's go ahead and ridicule Britain for a moment. I got a great or a informative clip about the people's vote as as I think most people know that the European way the EU way is you let the people vote, and when they don't vote the way the elites want it you vote again. And again if necessary, and it could just be ignored altogether. See the Netherlands see France with the Lisbon Treaty. Ireland had to vote multiple times. Yes. Good gimmick. Yeah. So that really, and this is why it was easy for us really be president. If we use employed that game here. Well. I came across a France twenty four interview with Alastair Campbell who used to be Tony Blair's main guy. He's a labor guy. So he would be clearly on the or not all not clearly clearly, but he's on the remainder side. And he's pushing I think he's actually involved in behind the people's vote which again would not be surprise seeing. The Blair has also cropped up talking about this. And he's going to explain here why we need to do over. So I think that will be a good thing. I think it does open the door to great reflection process. The hopefully will lead to a second referendum and give people the chance to say based on everything you now know about braces opposed to the lies that were told into a disease joined to carry on. Because let's face. It almost have all moved agree with at least three months if not three years now. I love there. I think this is like a common thing that use of the word lies which. They do it with Trump to Trump will say something like, yeah, I've been here for thirty. You're. Well, John, John, John John Trump. Also does talk an awful lot of bullcrap. No. He's a bullshit. So that. The the lie maim is the overdo it. I mean, if you just concentrate on his true bullshit, it wouldn't be so extreme. But none they tell it six thousand lies in these most of these are inconsequential yelled admit, that's true. Yes. Now. This this idea of here's the lie. We want to leave the EU. And become our own country. Like, we used to be does it that's really the basis of Brexit. The rest of it is like the was lies to counteract lies if we say, yes. As the economy's gonna collapse. No, it's not. Yes. It is. No, it's not lies on both sides. Yeah. Yeah. This is like a this is to me the use of the word lie to make a point which is not even being made under these circumstances. And I said the same with Trump is just it's just I I'm sick of it. Disney thing going to carry on because we've had let's face. It owners have all moved agree with at least three months if not two three years now of pretty chaotic scenes in the UK. Surely, if you have a second referendum, which is what you're advocating doesn't that make that chaos just even would possibly surely one of the arguments that the Brexit people putting his, you know, democracy means you have to do what the people said on June the twenty third twenty sixteen. Yeah. But what we've seen the chaos that? You're describing is what that means in practice and how hard it is. And it goes the public. There's no point denying this. The public were sold ally. The big lie was this could be done without pain without cost. We could have our cake and eat it. We keep all the same Ben of being inside the single market. Well being out. He's an Olson's how it was sold. I don't remember it Bill get out of this thing. And I don't think it was everything will be groovy and cushy. But there are a lot of people who voted for it. And I it will say actually care about all of that. I just wanna get your voted for we voted for. It was a democratic decision. It should be fully agree through lots of people who think that. But I think what you're seeing in parliament is employees and ministers. Those who are honest with the British people are saying a making clear looking into it fine. But understand we cannot do this without there being a big impact upon your lives that may be very very negative. Now, that's a big thing for an MP to do to vote for something saying, I'm gonna do this. I'm going to vote for it because you voted for it three years ago. But I'm telling you know, is going to make you poor. That's a big thing to do. So I think that is the reason why is democratic to have another vote to say people. Okay. That's what you voted for in theory is the practice. Do you want to proceed now? I kind of the line. Of museum. There's only them crunchy. How can how can it be anti-democratic when you know, you have a vote, and you do another one because you know, lies ris? Could could we even predict two out of three that would be quite brazen of us. But not unthinkable. I can see it happening. The vote goes the other way to say, we'll wait a minute. We gotta do to this. And they'll find some flaw in the second go round that was like, well, the probably here's a lied about this, and they lied about that and they get to people. That's not the way it was going to go and do two out of three and that could be throughout a five. And then, you know, go on forever. Yeah. But it would I think if they had a second vote it would be voted out. It would be voted down at the don't think Brexit would take place even the Farraj in the Brexit party. And all these other people think they're going to have a bigger. Yes vote. I don't see it happening. It's just the same way. It's just the way the propaganda machine. Works seems obvious that Faraj starting up the Brexit party that they feel it's coming that. They know that that a people's vote a second referendum is on the way. It seems. On it will now. Yes. And then they can have their Brexit party after the second referendum kills Brexit. And now, you have this Brexit party, which is a protest party claiming one thing or another to get try to get some MP's in office, and the keep the thing going into the kind of subversive way, he's a subversive guy. Yeah. So that he'd be real comfortable with this situation because it gives him the kind of platform he likes while. They did this. They did. There was a song. I don't know. If you heard the song, I clipped the whole thing that was I thought was extremely well done by this lib Joe web page called Joe curiously. No, I don't know about this. Oh, yeah. And they what they did do it. This is the kind of thing. Our producers have not done this. But I am not. Wanting to play this just so to encourage anyone doing this sort of thing, but they took a it's wonderful. You've seen these types of of songs before they they took a guy and clipped his words and made him start saying things he wasn't saying and put it in auto tunes. So he's singing a song to take off on a of a pop song that was popular. And I would like you to play it. But okay, what is this is this Lulu is Nigel song from Joe? Okay. I can't wait. What you wake up is that the one. Yeah. Well. When we go out. I'm going to be about Putin's full. When. Well. Who's suffering with you? The Laura Syrian refugee. Fine. I'll write you and the chorus. Tell by. Is. At the end of the show. That's good. Yeah. That's into show material. Right. They're good. Very good. Very insulting. It's a scam. So it self so. Healers, really well done. Yeah. With video. So he had some funny stuff in the video too. Oh, that's good. Well, that's very creative. And I think that should put some of our mixmasters on. On alert notice. Yeah. Notice this people out there doing good work. My it's very fun though. My British friends. Now, I still have a phone here. Home British friends. Yes. And I still have a phone here. That does what's app. So I can communicate with British friends who they're too cheap to text message. Not kidding. Ooh. This is free. It's free. That's true. It's free extreme. And they're they're like tripping out like, hey, do you think we got problems look at you, you you of Trump? Oh, yeah. Do you? Do you even have a country? Well, that's true. That's true. And yeah. Yeah. So it's fun. They don't the public is just beside themselves. They don't know they now they don't understand anything anymore. They really don't know where it's going. And of course, in typical fashion of are all argue that they do. So that they're up for another another vote people's vote friends of the show in the United Kingdom of Gitmo nation. East view are getting another referendum take it from the team who's been there. It's all part of the same cycles of. Yeah. World domination. It is the elites it is. They don't want their stuff stolen. There were a couple of outrages. It was a funny thing that happened. And I think I have the Genesis. Of what happened? There was. I guess it was considered as personal whistle blower or someone leaked that Trump apparently had said in the meeting. Hey, ship those immigrants those illegal immigrants ship them off to the sanctuary cities. And then he confirmed it. He did. Yeah. Yeah. They bogus. Bogus a fight. But Gus Gus affi-. Yes is perfectly tranessa fide. The story. I have a clip from PBS that has some of this in there, which I think is bullcrap because it just doesn't make any sense. I mean, he does have leaks. But this is that normal does asking Diaz at the H S, I misspelled shutdown. It's okay. I understood what you meant also new reports involving the new acting homeland security secretary Kevin Macalinsan, the New York Times reported President Trump urged him to close the US southern border sooner than the president has said he might during a trip there last week the times and CNN both say the president then offered to pardon Macalinsan, if he ran into legal trouble or with jail because if the move separately NBC news reported administration officials have discussed a plan to send more US troops to the border to build tent city detention camps for migrants some five thousand. And troops are already deployed there. Mainly to reinforce existing barriers. Doesn't say this story about well. Trump says don't worry about just do it. Here's the problem with the story in this new another New York time slash CNN made up story, and I say that because Trump could shut down the border anytime he wants to and instead of doing that he's going to talk to his DHS guy and say, hey, I want you to shut down the border now part, you if you get arrested, but that wasn't the story that that wasn't the outrage the outrage, I guess you must have missed this on, you know, about sending everyone to San Francisco or sanctuary cities. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I know I this clip I thought included that because it was part of this report. Right. Yeah. And welcome decided that San Francisco in Oakland, probably should have all these immigrants, and so he's going to ship them there. Don't believe me. I'm very aware of this story since the local story, and I'd like to point out in first case if you look around. The United States you'll see asylum seekers. Maybe that's maybe it's a better description of the people were talking about in this case asylum seekers as well as. Undocumented immigrants who are taken by the non-governmental organizations pay paid for by the State Department and shipped all over the country. They're already being ship and they're shipped and this is the scam. Let me explain it. Again, you come in you claim asylum. You get picked up by the NGO, the NGO is paid for by their usually religious organizations. Most of them the big ones that they are paid for by the United States taxpayer that's part of the United States State department, and they will ship you to a place where coincidentally big corporations need, cheap labor, Detroit as an example. Well, Somalians are all over the place in Minnesota. Yeah. And so everyone takes severe offense against the idea of shipping them off to sanctuary cities. But this the Republic Trump really messed this one up and the Republicans and all the right wing media. This is how it goes. Will you said you loved it so much? What? I guess you didn't. Fuck that. You're just as bad as the left when you do that, sir. Casting bullshit and Trump did it too. And it's just like do it and shut up and don't don't like. Oh, yeah. So you don't think it's antagonistic to mock people by saying, oh, I thought you again, it's childish very sickening. And it's. You know? Yes, we get it. Everyone's everyone's a comedian. Everyone's a joker, and then it turned into and this was bizarre dumping somehow the word dumping came into play. And every left-wing media outlet was saying Trump wants to dump them here. Dump them at treasury such dump them down palm. This this dams the dumping terminology stems from the homeless ploys, which are employed by many of the larger cities smart cities. They get round of all the homeless put him on a bus to Santa Monica. Yes. And I think a lot of this stems from that. Style that that's called dumping something the homeless, right? Dump them in Austin Austin was a target for a while from Kelley. But what's interesting is that I can't find anywhere where anyone on the Trump side said dump them. So this was a left wing thing. And then of course, the right wing's like you say, you're dumping them. Like, they're trash you think. It is a left-wing term. Yes. Well, I have was developed by the left to counter the dumping a homeless that was done with the homeless in the left was bitch and Immonen about it, and they came up with using the term dumping. Well, I have to response clips one from the cast one of the Castro brothers Juliane Juliane Castro report in the Washington Post at the Trump administration pressure the department of homeland security to release immigrants detained this was early on where the word was still release at the border into so called sanctuary cities in part to retaliate against Democrats who oppose Trump's plans for a border wall. Give me your reaction to that secretary that the cruelty of this administration never seems to end. A year ago? This administration told us that as Americans if we would just be cruel enough to separate little children from their parents that that would deter more families from coming to our southern border. And in fact, the opposite has happened. And so it's amazing what links are going to. Now, they're talking about, you know, bussing families two particular cities to target political opponents. These folks want to. Couple of things one. I'm getting a little tired of the separation mean because this is something Obama's administration did all along. We'll just get over it over cruelty. No five if I'm some migrant hit the jackpot, you're missing the border. Throw me new a bus in shipped me to San Francisco where believe me, they can use, you know, some Mexicans to clean up the streets of nothing else. And it I don't see that. How is this clearly as opposed to just make them suffer? It more. I think you're missing the point me, what cruelty is in this in this sense in this context. And this is because Trump at I thought you would have it. That's why didn't clip, but I should have gotten it. Because Trump said literally oh thought were so happy them as thank you say. Give them that. I know Trump's wasn't quite in those words, but yeah, it was because the MO. Let me answer your question. The he he he mocked the sanctuary cities, which then gave his opponents all the ammunition. They needed to say, you're so cruel that you will use people a situation of people not what you're doing to the people, but you will use people to attack political opponents. That's what they're calling cruel in this case. This is a pretty wide use of the term of Corey is cruelty. I don't see it as cruelty, I think is doing these guys favor. Probably doing the sanctuary city people favor. Okay. Cruelty is because because he's manipulating a population. Is that? So that manipulate no, no, no, no, you'll you'll have to put yourself into the left mindset you have to feel. Oh my God. He's using people to attack his us, his enemies. He's using these poor people don't you understand how the left sees that in this case. I don't believe there's sincere. Of course, they're not sincere. That's why the whole thing is just Adriatic and someone needs to stop it targeted. Belittle is gonna stop nothing. You know? You know, these folks. Here Castro actually says it right here about the cruelty. It's just fifteen seconds of families to particular cities to target political opponents, you know, these folks want us to choose cruelty as a weapon against these people and against political opponents and last week I released a immigration plan. I'm calling on Americans to choose compassion not rule to issues not compassionate now. Jeffrey Toobin on CNN. He I think he went one step further. He let his actual feelings flow through as in the truth always wants to come out. And so no one said anything that Trump or the DHS or ice or right wing? No, one said anything about these people other than hey, you love them. They should be in your sanctuary city. Jeffrey Toobin already has an idea in his mind as to how he thinks about these people, and this is what he came up with. Well, my my first reaction. Was. I mean, really I mean, the idea of using these human beings as a kind of pestilence to spread around the country. I mean, it is so so he sees pestilence. Why did he sees? The migra says pest, listen, listen, listen, plague of insects. He literally says it you took the words right out of my mouth when you said, you know, these are human beings, and to treat them like a form of of of plague you want to impose on your enemies is really grotesque. Now, I guess the good news. We can say is that it hasn't happened or at least it hasn't happened yet. But I think it's indicative of the attitude towards illegal immigrants or undocumented citizens undocumented, people, whatever term you want to use. He's almost screwed up. Y'all you said legal immigrants. I mean, I mean, I mean, a undocumented whatever you want to use immigrants or undocumented citizens undocumented documented citizens keep going Tuban keep going. Illegal immigrants or undocumented sit as undocumented people, whatever term you want to use as something less than human something less than human their. We are back to Hitler. Thank you. Jeffrey toobin. While watch that was. Yeah. But that's that's a lot of money to do that. I hope he does. What what what would just on the Trump hate? Nipsy nipsy hustle was gunned down in front of his sports store, and you've probably never heard of nipsy hustle before. You're correct. But they had the I think it was the Nokia. Auditorium. I think they had it filled for his in Los Angeles for his memorial. Surly would that spot? I'm sorry. I'm familiar with that spot is huge. Yes. I think the same place where they had it for Michael Jackson. And it was all nipsy. The guy was a gangster. He was a hip hopper. And all I hear now is how he wanted to do good for the community and bring everybody together, and to be honest. I hadn't I it took me a little research not much like, oh, I remember who this guy is. But it was as if a Saint had fallen. And I need to push back on that by reading for you. Some of nipsy hustles lyrics. White folks. But I don't like you all the nigga in the hood wanna fight you surprised El Chapo and try to snipe you to price the nation of Islam and trying to find you have a rally out of LA. We're gonna fuck it up. Home of the Rodney King riot. We don't give a fuck black students jetted from your rally. What about to go right now you racist as did too much about the turn Black Panther? Don't let Donald Trump win that nigga cancer. He to rich and got the answers. He can't make citizens for this country. He going to crash us. Now, we can't be asleep for him. He got me appreciated the bomb away more. Hey, Donald everyone. That follows you gave us the reason to be president. But we hate yours. Oh, yeah. Full. Outstanding citizen. What a shame. What a shame. I also wanna remind people who do remix of our show and do some musical things at the end do not put music behind one of Adam's readings would we will not run it. Yes, it has legal ramifications legal ramifications. He can do it as a fair use in this context. But we can't put music behind it. But my my point is clear. Yeah. And that was that was age bring this up when they get I got killed. No. He was he was a no good, Nick. No, no. I don't think. I I did somebody did. Well, I don't know if he's a no good, Nick. But you know, that's not entirely the upstanding citizen who is trying to help his community with Haight. Yeah. That that you just can't you just can't tell me that you know, one mentioned this this video was not played anywhere. No-one referenced it in. What do you think? This is this. Or they just hard up for entertainment LA that they have to you know, there is a good opportunity to pack Nokia center. Yeah. Probably doesn't hurt. Pag Nokia center, who's dead who cares. Yeah. And then but the coolest thing was the guy who shot him and not not cool. But the guy who shot him his name was Eric Holder. Yes, I love that. How nutty does that? And spelled the same way. Folder with a C. It's like yet. Geez, man. Okay. Oh is that subliminal or what is it? Eric Holder shoots the rapper. Yeah. No. It's just extremely extremely disturbing. And I know it's I think it's important to some like, okay. So he's another thing. I did Ilan Omar. Don Ilan, Omar was twat. The New York Post, I guess had seen her twenty five minutes speech at care care is C A R the council for American Islamic. I are see what I see. I the con- council for American Islamic relations and in front for the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, it was it was an unindicted co conspirator in the which one was that. In front front running the terror or financing, the terrorist groups. Yeah. An unindicted co conspirator which you know is like the president and unindicted co-conspirator to take that for what you for what you want it to be. But she said in her speech, some some people did something on nine eleven and that was bad for Muslims. And because she said, some people did something it was reason for the New York Post to put a picture on the front page of the tower, the twin towers coming down, you know, the the actual moment. The flames the smoke that dot everything the nukes exploding underneath the buildings, and then Ilana, Omar, a some some simple Baio. Yeah. Some people did something. Now, this was a very short clip. So I always liked to go and find the context what did she actually say in what was going on? Because I want to try and be fair as possible to all. Now, I have to say, I watched this whole speech. Only have I only pulled one clip from an I could've pulled several, but we would have been here for an hour because she talks. Like this. Very. Long pauses, and it's excruciating. But I can give you the rundown. Muslims. Get blamed Muslims are treated as second class citizens. Trump hates Muslims. He put a Muslim ban in place, which is just a lie. It's not was not it was a country ban. We have to be good Muslims by making people uncomfortable with our presence. It is time for us to stop being allowed to be treated as second class citizens in America, which I was not aware of that was the feeling. So I pulled this one clip which includes the nine eleven comment, and it kind of shows I should also mention in this thirty minutes. Not once did she talk about doing whatever we need to do for the country for the United States. She's a Representative of the people. She didn't say anything about her state at all. It was only about. Muslims are fucked in America and Trump is hates Muslims and wants us. All dead. He she didn't say dead without the implication. But again, it's not in this clip. But listen to what her biggest gripe is. And this was her only example of how Muslims in America are treated as second class citizens. So the truth is. You can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad, and mom and become a doctor. I wanted to also point out that she has this wave speaking, which makes her sound intelligent. But after having watched this for an half an hour, I can conclude she's done. She's not. She's not smart. She's just talking an interesting way. And she's interesting to look at very interesting. You can have that beautiful wedding. That makes mom and dad happy you can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters. If you one bay show up to the hospital. And your wife or maybe yourself is having a baby, and you can't have. The access that you need because someone does recognize you as fully human. Okay. What could this be? Where where's this just understand? She setting it up by saying, you can go to school be great by have work have beautiful house of a beautiful wife, and then go to the hospital to have a baby. And then all of a sudden, you're not human. What is she talking about? I don't know. What it doesn't matter? How good you were. If you can't have your player, Matt and take your fifteen minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty because there is no facility in this, particular instance, that she's generalizing for prayer. We're a horrible country. Matter. How good you are. If you one day find yourself in a school. Where other religions are talked about. But when Islamic is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. I don't think there's a school in the union that does that was just the opposite. It is as long as taught prayer is fair is taught to the fifth graders. This is this is this is this is a lie. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal's office, please tell me what school, and I will vilify that school. So she's just making up this stuff just to get the audience to clap for her. Here we go. So to me, I say raise hell make people uncomfortable. I think because she doesn't explicitly say it. I think what she's saying is by wearing your job or I mean, he jab. Or whatever men where we need to know what that's that dresses called and the and the hat, we need to know, the official names that appeared for the men. Yeah. The dish. Dash dishdasha. Paeans call it staff. So you need to make people feel uncomfortable. I guess by what by wearing this clothing. Let me tell you. We've got Muslims in Austin. It doesn't make me uncomfortable. But she believes that it does. Because here's the truth. Here's the truth Trute far too long. We have lived with the discomfort of being a second class citizen. And frankly, I'm tired of it and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. And I'm really sorry to hear this. I I had no idea that this in Europe. Yeah. I can see how how this might be going on. I don't see it. Even in Texas. I don't see people like. Maybe it's going on. Maybe I'm just blind to it. But okay. Was founded after nine eleven because they recognize that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can't just say that today. Someone is looking at me strange that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say this person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them. Why? So that was her entire comment. I don't think it warranted the front page. I don't think it warranted. All the outrage. Oh and get all bent out of shape about it too. She needs to shut up. None of not Inc. Yeah. So, but so it wasn't worth that. And instead of focusing on what she's actually saying, which is predicated on hospitals who won't let you pray. I just don't believe that. Or is she saying she needs a different type of facility the mean. Well, it was she not saying it. So I don't I don't have the answer to that. So sure she made a comment in there. And check it out because it didn't sound right. So when was nine eleven. On sign eleven two thousand one right? Yes. Care was founded in nineteen ninety four. Yeah. That was a good coach care was not founded after nine eleven because of the in whatever the injustices, or whatever, she's a liar. That is a good catch. To wake up to ill hand over around one. I wanted to play that beginning again here we go. So the truth is the truth. You can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom what's up there long? We have lived with the discomfort of being a second class citizen should be tired of it. Was founded after nine eleven okay. Well, that's the biggest lie. And instead of everyone jumping around and screaming about an off the hand Collins this speech at care. Yes. No that it wasn't founded after nine eleven founded in June of nineteen ninety four first office in Washington DC fantastic. Brother. She's just a troublemaker. Well, women the way they vote people like that into. Okay. So now care about the country now I want. Well, I'll tell very easy who why she was voted in look at who she represents you just mentioned earlier the Somali population in in Minnesota is quite large though. Now. This is Katie Hopkins and hold on a second before you go on with Katie. It's about illness. Yulon? No, no of I'm just talking about what you just said. Now, there's they do this. They take a bunch of they take immigrant population to Syrians, one of them and circling Michigan took on the Michigan and they put him in some certain spot. So that way they create a voting block. This is a democrat strategy. You create a voting block. They're going to vote one of their own in because there's enough of them to do it. This is the old if you remember the whose the hardware Hari krishnas or one of these groups had this this compound up in Oregon that they took over the town. There's a documentary own people into offices, and then we're going to take over and steal the money. There is there is a book that was written by a number of left wing radicals called and it's very hard to find this book if anyone can find it because there's been bought back by everyone. They took you bought it all back because it was it was an indictment of the left called. And it was written by lefties called the wealth of cities and not Adam Smith, but the wealth of cities, and Tom base was one of the authors and one of our local politicians, and it talks about how you can move into a city take over the place. Take over the city council. Steal the government money. That's coming through tax. The people take the federal money and just deal at build housing for yourself and your buddies, and it's just. A way of ripping off the public, and this is a method here that we're witnessing. It's happening again. And again being done by Democrats, if these guys were sincere about spreading the refugees. Right. They spread them all over the country evenly. You would send them all the Michigan or Minnesota. This is exactly what. Katie Hopkins is going to talk about and having grown up in Europe. And knowing different sides of of the discussion or debate. On the one hand. I say, yes, the tactic is very clear once and you see this in Belgium, more than anywhere. Once you have. Allowed immigration to surpass levels that allow an immigrant block to have a voting block that can put people into office, then they are going to then serve that same voting block in that community, and it will change your country. That's the democratic process. So I cannot fault that if you don't want that then you need to as you say. Disperse the immigrants so they can't create one voting block, although I don't know stop immigration altogether. These are the questions, but here's how Katie Hopkins feels about this particular issue as it pertains to Ilan, Omar meets to wake up to Ilan Oma. She's changing right before your eyes. And there are three simple steps to these lava fixation of politics devoting lifted here in the UK number one. You have a vote in block of people that are densely packed together the same community, so Molly communities Bangladeshi communities full families living where one family eastern, if now you have them voting, according to their religion facilitated by the mosque. Katie Hopkins is a journalist correct or she's a columnist or journalist. She is a gerbil. She's more of a columnist at a she used to have one of the elbow. Shows kicked off because. Yeah. Hate her. Because of the stuff she says. So let's she's very this is this is classic classic eighty conflict in you had the Muslim housing association. We have a Muslim police association we have events especially for the Muslim community of London. We have an aids and abrasion in the middle of London in Trafalgar Square paid for by the Muslim man of London to keep his voting block happy. Once you have people voting according to their religion funded by funding. Streams coming in from God knows where you see the changes start happen. You seeing them now for us. It means that we no longer have bikinis on our underground because it would be offensive to some of the locals. It means that an individual's Canoga come to our country because we don't want upset local communities, and it means the Asia BB, for example, a Christian woman was not given a place to stay in the UK because we don't want to. Upset local communities once you have Islam in political power, you culture, stops change rapidly. You started this by allowing head coverings to be worn inside your positions of power. You've seen Ilhan Omar change having this kind of modern looking exotic looking bright orange how berry fabulous into now this darker blacker head covering now. We're coming out and speaking out against Israel now with saying that the president should be impeached. Now, we're standing by the socialist Madero in Venezuela. America needs to wake up to L ham Aumont classic. That's exactly it. But they don't need to wake up to Ilhan. Omar you need to wake up to what's happening in your own community. What do you want in your community? How do you want stuff to be to be arranged? What do you want your your neighbors to be how do you? Get along with your neighbors or not, you know, it's like what do you want your country, but let's not go after a super immigration, and then people start to learn language and get a clue and and get into office. This is this is the part that I that I detest the most is these people on the sidelines going they're taking over here when you're not doing anything, then you need to get out and vote the old white men party or whatever. But see this is this is the problem is that you get shamed. Into being racist bigot, xenophobic. If you just say, I want my neighborhood to maybe be different. You can't do that anymore. That's just over with cancel culture, you get canceled out. And this is why in the Netherlands my daughter, and her girlfriend will not walk hand in hand on on certain streets, which used to be completely a non issue in the Netherlands. Get clubbed. Well, when I'm with them, they probably won't get clubbed. But yeah, they'll get yelled at by by Muslims and and spit on because they as two women. So the, you know, the call them, they'll call them, horrors. Wasn't a city council. Do something about this. They are that is the city council. Oh. Because look look at the mayor of Rotterdam Muslim. So what does the city council will who will the AP driven by? Well, I'm not again here in Austin. I see plenty of Muslim people, or at least people wearing Muslim garb and freaking out seems to be okay. And if Austin, you know wants, and we bring more here, and then we can have them in in in city government. That's democracy. No problem with that. Anyway, just need to let it go. No, that's exactly where we're headed. Because that's what's happened in Europe. Now, I think the immigration was handled very differently there. But is it really? I'm not quite sure what happens to the. I don't know if it's really it's immigration. You know, it's not the same. Because here we're talking about asylum people who are seeking asylum and. Those lines are not well defined if you cross the border illegally, you're an illegal immigrant. But then you can I guess switch that to becoming an asylum seeker if you get caught that's kind of the problem. Well, we're not going to resolve this problem on this show. No, no, no. No. No, no. But we do need to let everyone have the information to, hey, how are we going to deal with the with the world, but this back and forth, and it's all Trump's faults. Shut up shut up. So there is this whole clip from two thousand fifteen. Which kind of addresses some of this very long clip is very interesting Clinton is a very famous Admiral that people know, what should I say? This is Admiral Lyons four star Admiral in the navy. Who was at one of these gatherings. And he's where to speak bills. You know, says what they want, and he traces a lot of this kind of. Wimpish? Style back into the Reagan administration and the Carter administration where it all began. What you're kind of dissertation that exists today. He kind of sees it as something that goes back aways, and it has to do with the fact that we've lost our nerve or something, I'm not sure. Lyons died in two three years after this. And he was old, but he's a very interesting character. But listen to this as much as you can handle, but it's very interesting pike frying. Sorry, I missed the earlier presentations, do the my three hour and twenty minute commute this morning. But, you know, a number of you heard me say before we've had many opportunities to change the course of history and it hasn't mattered. Whether it's been a Republican or democratic administration, we failed every one of them starting with Carter when the takeover of our embassy, we could have cut off committee and his Liz Islam fundamentalism at the needs. We were gonna take cog island, and he rejected it we could've walked in. The next time was the marine barracks. Bombing. You all probably wonder why we never responded, I would go in marine barracks. Bombing was that it was the one during the Reagan administration where the marine barracks were killed like fifty marines. Or it was it was one of the biggest disasters ever in the Middle East. And who was who was blamed for this. I believe this was it was either I run in or Hezbollah Lebanon Mazda. Wasn't lebanon. Well, look at marine marine barracks. All you just put in marine barracks bombing. Okay. We'll keep listening while we do that time was the marine barracks. Bombing. You all probably wonder why we never responded would go into the long detail. But the guy that sabotage the strike. I'm glad you're all sitting down was the secretary of defense. Not once but twice Reagan approved the French wanted to do a combined strike and Reagan approved it and Weinberger wouldn't issue the autumn. I personally talked to George Shultz and bud McFarland. They. Told me they pleaded with him. And he wouldn't do it. You have to say who the hell got to them or what? Or what to I've never been able to get an answer on that in the Gulf tanker war in eighty seven. We were going to bring down the Komeini regime, you know, and the guy the Sebah Taj brief Weinberger at my headquarters at Pearl Harbor that summer this was going to be an August of eighty seven and the one who undercut us the most was our own chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Crowley at the time. You know, if you go forward, and you look at you know, we shut down by accident that Iranian civilian airline a few months later and Komeini do he said, I'm drinking from the chalice of poison. And he said I have to make a truce with Sarah. Hussein because the Americans have shown the coming in on Iraq side. We'll think of what the hell we could have done had. We executed the strike. We wanted to do in August of eighty seven. You know? We'll say we have to identify the threat will I think the one who'd done the best again from Turkey when he said Islam is is low. There are no modifies democracy is the train we ride to our alternate objective. He couldn't have said it any player until you recognize that Islam as a political movement masquerading as a religion. You're never gonna catch come the grips with it. And as far as a strategy. Let me just conclude one thing that I just had my latest op-ed. The Obama administration has a strategy. It's very simple any thinking American should be able to grasp its anti American anti western. It's pro Islamic. It's pro Iranian and pro Muslim Brotherhood. I'm with that all the mic. Thank you, sir. Yeah. So it was it was the bay. It was in Beirut where that happened and this is by the way in industrial society and its future. Professor Ted Kaczynski, literally points out this political correctness issue before any of this. Well, just around the same time, I guess in the early eighties. This all took place this this is the path we're headed down. And if it doesn't matter to me if Islam is a political movement or religion, I don't care you can believe in a political movement for all I care, but to protect and not allow criticism. That's the problem. Yeah. That is the problem. It is a problem. It's the reason that this show exists because for one thing we don't have people telling us you can't talk about this stuff, which is the case in the mainstream media and the large newspapers. But what's interesting is you can excoriate the Scientologists, you can excoriate Christians. You can. You can't really excoriate jus, I guess unless you're ju-, then you can do it but Muslims Islam. It's off limits. Yeah. Why is that why is that? Will is a number of reasons. One day are a there's numbers they're protected minority in some ways, just generally speaking. But there's also the thing. Well, you say somebody must be was going to throw a bomb in your window, which is like a very strange reason not to talk about it. But that's what that's what has bomb go into Bill Maher's window. That's where Holland is. Now, by the way, that's the thinking you better not saying, they will mess you up. And this happens every day what happened with with me? Denmark cartoonists? Yes. And Charlie Hebdo, and they have dope people. So they were they were criticizing. They were ridiculing to an extreme doesn't matter. No, what you should be able to do to listen, if anyone can can create a voting block and can come in through democracy and run whatever then you need to adhere to all of the laws of the land, which means criticism and freedom of the press without being killed for it. Or being condemned for being not politically correct is really the real products to real basis. There is you're a racist. Yep. So okay. So we've broken that down. I don't know what else to do one thing that any of our listeners didn't already know. I'm not so sure about that. I it sometimes it's just good to have to spark debate by reiterating the obvious things. And I think that Ilan Ilhan, Omar. That it's unfortunate that apparently the in this case right wing media drew attention away from what she was really saying. Which has I have a real problem with unlike this. Oh, and she said, some some people did something on nine eleven, you know. Did it? And it's like I did it twice actually today. She this is the problem with the right wing media. They did very superficial. Yes. Yes. And actually if the clip that you played I've never heard before. Because I didn't listen to her speech. But you're exactly right this. This is the problem. It's and it's the also fictitious stuff that she made up that is nonsense, including the birth date of care, and that would and that's a much stronger argument, if you want to discredit someone to say, listen for you to stand there, and in the same segment to say care was started after nine eleven you're either very wrong or you're lying. So what else is going on with you, your I review the right wing media goes lowest common denominator and really insults. The viewing audience at they're not smart enough to take a second and comprehend what you're saying about something. So yeah. In this case, you're absolutely it's there you go. That's the problem outrage right wing media there and there they do they do there because no good whatsoever. And it's getting worse. Because whenever I that's why I went to look at this whenever I see a clip that has played over and over again with some outrage attached to it, and it's cut off abruptly. There's no lead in just a little. It's literally a clip in clip out. No preamble you have to this is just taken out of context. And it wasn't completely taken out of context. But Wow, Did was there. A lot of context there to be discussed that actually could put the Ilhan Omar in her place. But no. They that's why we exist. Thank you. I feel better. Now. Thanks, the segment made sense. We if we can round it up good. Good for that. Which might be a good time for a break. Well with that. Then I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you. The sea in care. John c. In the morning to you, Mr. Ed incur, the morning shifts and see boots on the ground. Feeding the air subs in the water and all the days and nights out in the morning to all the trolls in our troll room who have been helpful this morning and on the on the ball preciado it care bears. No agenda stream dot com. We have about a thousand people every single show that seems to be the sweet spot of number of people that can converse in and help out. And you get the troll. It's what we call. It the troll room. There's no agenda stream dot com. Thanks again. Trolls, and I also would like to wish eight hardy in the morning to. Oh, yeah. There he is. Again, Darren O'Neill Darren brought us the art work for episode eleven twenty eight earn out candidate the turtle the title of that was tactile nukes. His still a classic phrase and nuke. And this was just the best one of the bunch. It was the prettiest it had the UK internet in the UK. Save the children lock it lock. This is about the new law and the. Acceptable content is our who will be appointed for new regulations in the United Kingdom's of Gitmo nation. You know? So that you don't get hurt when surfing online, you don't get you. Don't get upset by something you might read or see and Darren captured that really well in this piece. 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Now real scare no-one scares divorce wreck. So I'm producing these clips I got almost all producer one. Go to go to save it after I've edited it and then instead of the normal folder that comes up in the side divulge not there. Okay. And so I look look look in folder eleven twenty nine is not there. The all the files are gone, including fully I hit like control. Why just miss hit a couple of keys earlier? Well, this is where I'd start with my investigation when someone says I hit a weird key combo. And then something went wrong. Now, I hit the word Kiko most of them. I god. And so I started looking around. I couldn't find searcher eleven twenty nine. I did everything I could offend maybe some got moved to another fuller that happens where you actually pick up a folder and drop it at another fuller in his stuck in there. So I bet you something happened to something bad happened. So I go to the trash candidate well just retreated from there and put it back on screen. No problem. It's not in there. So now, I'm really freaked. So I say, okay, let me think of some I decided to a search on one of the file names that I remembered, and as you know, because you have to look at these names, it's almost impossible. Remember the name of these files because I missed bell everything. Yes. So it's not about, you know, star PBS dot MP three will show up with something. So I decided to a whole disc search for this. That's fast enough. I got I get a all right. So it goes in boom starts finding these boom, boom. Another one other one to they're here. The the files are still alive they're alive. And so I I can't dinner you doesn't show me in the bar where they are. And so I go to properties tavon click on properties. And then go at the bottom. You can see what Fullerton they're all in folder to. What folder too was was the initial name when I created a new folder for the desktop of clips eleven twenty nine it reverted clips eleven twenty nine folder name regional? Okay. I can tell you what happened. You somehow did a control z in the in the file explorer. And that's when it reverted because it it will remember your undo per application, and your file management system does the same. So that's how that happened. It wasn't a control y was a control z that you be I think so while it was riveting I'm glad we believe me. My heart was a pound. All the here's here's what I'm thinking to myself. I've lost all these clips. I have to go re download the shows and whatever to get the clips back to try to at least put some back into the show and that have to get up early early in the morning, and that's the part that really had because I don't I've changed my style. I don't get up early in the morning to do this show any more get up just before the show, and I didn't wanna have to deal with that. Well, John again. Thank you. Everybody. Donations propagate is this we go out hit people in the mouth. Dot. In telling everyone that these credits that we just handed out to our exects and associates could are very real valuable credits. As certainly when they're recognized by people in industries, you are producer the entire show was in network of produce, you know, telling this to the other day. I I may remind you where you could support the show because we do need your support for every single program. And that's why it's so highly appreciated dot org slash a reading something about the decentralisation of media, man. I wish that save this where it was. And I thought this is really what what is happening is you see everything is fragmenting. And you get to a point. Maybe it was I was thinking about Netflix. Netflix and Amazon they're really losing money on those services net. Flicks is proven they're not making money. You can go look at their at their financials. And you know, they have that the key. 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Attention. We pay so much attention on this show that we actually read a lot of these notes, and I have a couple of today when we and went and when other media people start to figure this out they'll be successful. Once you understand that it is not about what you want is what about your audience wants. And you actually let the audience do that and turn them into producers. We don't refer to you as listeners people's how many listen, do you have. I don't know. But I got thousands of producers, you know, so blow blow me, and that's why we're so appreciative. And that's why this program works and don't think that you're unimportant. Every single idea is important every single piece that comes in. And it's and it's I'm proud of what we're doing and proud of you, and you too. Thinks. Don't take this post modern art form that we're doing lightly. This is the only legacy I'm gonna have. I mean, you may have a little bit, you know, doing what always you actually don't even know that you've been pushed martyr since you started off as the Jay, which is ludicrous VJ. The JJ. Started. I know I know I know. I got some interesting. I was watching Bill Maher. This any play this. So, you know, people I call myself the crackpot, you're the buzz kill, but any new person who you're even if when we just wouldn't win, no agenda social dot com. Just appeared on the fed averse if you like conspiracy theorists, I mean, that's an easy one right conspiracy. Theorist and Bill Maher had the Seth Abramson on his as his his first interview of the day, and he's been around. I think he's currently columnist for Newsweek, and he wrote a book, I'm like, you know, in plain sight, Trump colluded Trump's and asshole, I think that's the title of the book, but he sat down and when I when I listen to what they were talking about. Oh my God. This is a fantastic really fantastic phrase. This guy's invent he has he's a conspiracy theorist, but explains it in a different. Away with a setup from Bill. Of course, I want to talk about your technique because I think it's very exciting. When there's a new literary event, and I would say what you do is that. I mean, you're what are the word use a cure Atallah gist or curate tala g or curatorial journalist? I can't get that curatorial curatorial journalist, John. Even mean, he goes through curation. No, listen stories. No, yes. You're as a hoarder. He's a conspiracy theories only he's calling himself a curatorial journalist. This is our new title listener curatorial journalists. I can't get that close. And what you really do is put out a long long Twitter feed. I I've read it. And it's interesting because it's like watching someone write a book in real time. You don't mind if people say that you make mistakes, you are stuff you amend stuff? You edit stuff. So is this like the new version of what we went through? And maybe the seventies. When there was the new journalism, and they were mixing fact and fiction. You think this is as big a change? I think it's definitely new we're in the digital age now. And what we find is not that there isn't enough quality journalism. But that there's actually so much of it that a lot of it falls through the cracks. It gets published red ones. And then forgotten so what a curatorial journalists does is. They look back decades. Cross media that's being published across different continents. And they see stories that are lost. And how they connect with one another and how they might be important now. But weren't realized as important as at the connected, exactly your ear. The guy at the evidence will essentially worth the red tape. And they literally showed a picture of Trump with all these other pictures with red yarn connecting the dots. This guy is created a new term for conspiracy theorist. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty much what he's done fantastic. Curatorial your what do you do? I make curatorial journalist. Also known as podcast pod. Basically is a podcast. And then Bill Maher did something. The really showed where his head is at and just how he views the world. He was trying to take the point to make the point that because this guy's book is about how Trump is colluding in plain sight and Bill Maher's. All oh, he's he he said Russia if you find the emails so that is colluding with Russia in plain sight. So what he what would Bill Maher did is he said, we took some some public statements from Trump, and we made it sound like the Watergate tapes. Which is basically just really crappy sounded sound you remember the Watergate tapes Nixon for re emerge. Right. And the even while this is playing the overlay on the screen is a real to reel tape recorder. Just like the days from Watergate with the Watergate tapes, and they've taken all these quotes from Trump and edited together from different from completely different scenarios situations, different speeches, and then says well, listen to the segment colluding in plain sight. I'm glad you said that I've said that myself for a long time. So we did something tonight to illustrate this. Now, the comparison, of course, is always to Nixon what Nixon tried everything he could to keep it secret as you say fresh from does the exact opposite. He does it in plain sight. I think this is the genius to his getting away with everything. I don't think he knows he's doing it. I think it's a narcissist. But this is the effect of it. So what we did was we took some of the things that Trump said again in broad daylight. We put them on a tape. Just like he did with the Nixon tapes. Now, imagine if you were hearing this for the first time in this way. Where we just got this. Imagine Donald Trump with syrup tissue taped. And you heard it this way. Russia. President. Now, if if people have been better. Wouldn't we say that's the smoking gun. They actually had to have subtitles underneath the audio is so stupidly bad. I mean, this is this is delusional. His dilemma I was just like man what? His idea. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was just too and nuts. Nuts. Sad that people are like that makes up for my little thing. Let me read this note from a non ass- guy, you mentioned this is a good bit. This actually applies everything we do on our show. You mentioned local news regarding the measles. Rubella outbreak in Detroit. And I thought this additional info might be valuable my wife used to be a local TV news reporter, yes, good note. Yes, you have to and worked at multiple stations. She got fed up with the abysmal treatment of people in the local TV news industry, a whole. So that's something we can expand upon leave. Yes. I want to hear the stories. Yeah. Because as what we do left her job. She left her job and got into PR this note isn't about debuts, but I can go into detail later when she was a reporter. She was often actively discouraged from seeking out new story ideas, she was regularly handed a copy of the local newspaper for the day and told the cover something from it look TV, by the way. I know. For fact, this is done at most stations. Oh, that's listen to the New York Times, they give them and by the way, every single bad morning radio show. They do something called show prep, which means they have the guide that will use to be z one hundred coach Mike would literally snip the front page and pasted onto a four pieces of paper. And that was show prep. It just reading from the newspapers. Yeah. She said the the local TV news station, the paper owned by the same people. There were a few times when her story was rejected because it put a bad light on friends of the station or story was alerted by producer deliberately have having false information added to the more flashy. She pushed back against this to make the story more flashy. She has dozens of stories like this now that she's NPR she she gets she has to get earned media for her organization. They there have been multiple instances where she has literally shot shot and Roach stories for reporters, and they put it on TV later that day almost exactly how she said it up. That's what it is. Today's PR organizations are producing your news. Yes. All that is to say good reporters are often being stopped from reporting real news. Well, bad reporters are saying literally what they are. Towed told to say who knows who? Who ended in who who knows who's in Detroit pulling shenanigans like this? Well, we that's what we pointed out when we did that clip in the last show seemed as though it was just a throw with throwaway local reporter, downton they've screwed it up. Exactly. So that's what we're dealing with here. And maybe this would be a good segue into an explanation of how the Maine's m five m printed press works with the intelligence community as this was explained once again in broad daylight, clearly clear as clear as day by James Clapper. The former director of national intelligence he was on CNN. This is. The conversation. Here was the difference between Juliane Assange and WikiLeaks as a journalist organization and real journalistic organizations. There's a difference. Do you know what the differences between Wiki leaks as a journalistic endeavor and the New York Times or Washington Post? Yeah. One is run by the CIA do think that. Jeffrey Toobin, I think as always articulated the complexities of this case. And there is the, you know, freedom of the press aspect, my personally, and this is illegal a personal opinion legal opinion think I'm in my palm peyot school. That Wiki leaks is really a non nation state house on service. But I'm saying that as an Intel guy in having lived through the grief that those revelations 'cause there is the comparison between Wiki leaks and the likes of say the New York Times of the Washington Post. They want to make that comparison. I recognize that I will just point out one subtle difference. From a practical standpoint is that when the New York Times, the license four times or? The Washington Post or any responsible media came in to possession of classified material, typically, not always. But but typically, they would at least give us the intelligence community opportunity to comment and make the case for not publicly publishing something now. I will say also that though that their definition of what is harmful the national security, and my definition. What's what we're not exactly congruent differences important difference? Here. Ellison is at least we had the opportunity to make our case. And if someone's life was potentially a risk responsible media would not publish that responsible media. You're right. One is run by the CA in checks in with home base to see everything's, okay. This is okay shorts. Okay. I don't wanna hurt. Anybody? Have I have my one s on DJ clips as wrought it up. Good. This is a PBS report on a sergeant. I thought there was an odd angle here. Let's see what it is fight over extradition for WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange has intensified Assange was arrested yesterday in London on US charges of conspiring to break into a Pentagon computer today, Britain's opposition labor party urged government, not to extradite him to the US on Twitter labor leader. Jeremy Corbyn, set Assange, it's being targeted for exposing evidence of US atrocities in Iraq and honest on his party spokeswoman for domestic affairs echo, those concerns before parliament is this climax into ruled mass murder, motive civilians and crops grand scale that I put Julian Assange in the process of the US administration. Assange had lived in. Ecuador's embassy in London since twenty twelve until the country revoked his asylum yesterday. Okay. Well, couple of things one the woman speaking on behalf of Corbin goes on about this being a target of this administration ran into the Ecuadorian embassy in twenty twelve this was nothing to do with Trump. But it's it you make the news if you can tie Trump into it. Yeah. Get on the new Trump into something that Trump's got nothing to do with. And then, of course, sessions is the one who put this thing together. Which is you know, kind of you mean the twenty eighteen indictment for possibly attempting to hack into a defense. Backing yeah, it's an attempt. It's not even proven. It's just a an attempt. This is week. Now, the thing is is that couple of things I note is that for one thing discussion that the just played with co Clapper and whoever and talking about Toobin Toobin toolman, they it this particular indictments got nothing to do with whether or not Julian Assange is a jerk. Analyst it has to do with hacking government, computer. Yes. So it's like, why are we even disgusted at what let's discuss that one is discussion. Yeah. And it's also pretty weak case. Which makes you wonder if they're just trying to get him out of the country. So they can shoot him. I think there's an assassination attempt coming up on this guy. Well, here's okay. So there's a number of things at play here one. I don't know if you had a clip you wrote about it in the newsletter. Trump all of a sudden is like, I we leaks not my deal. I don't know about WikiLeaks. This is of course, ludicrous because. Yeah, we know exactly what that you knew would Wiki leaks was, but I think he saying something different. It is not it is namely Mike Pence who's been involved in not WikiLeaks. But in the Chevron case multibillion dollar case with Ecuador. Was there just like a month ago? T was inequitable. I think. Back up on this story. I was Chevron at remember. Yes. It's eight billion dollars in its have the have the story here. What happened was they were doing some exploratory drilling. I guess they found some wells or. Amazon. It was about the Amazon rainforest. Yeah. It's in the Amazon rainforest they were digging around from ninety three. This isn't the case from nineteen ninety three's long. Ecuadorians have been bitching about this ever since. 'cause they don't came to clean up the mess yet. That's all it is you made a mess. Clean it up. They refused to clean it up. Today. Your bunch of dumb screw ups from Ecuador. We're not gonna do what you want us to do outta here. So they left and left a mess and Russ's bed bona contention ever since so I think that's what Trump meant when he was saying that's not my deal. But also in addition to that, the one thing Julian Juliane Assange can has said he can prove is who he got the emails from pedestrians and the DNC where they came from. He says why they had two deaths why they may be an assassination attempt. This information cannot get out because that that will definitively ruin every last hope there is of some Russian collusion. Trump connection. That's the last one. That's why Roger stone is. Still waiting for sentencing. Is he's got a gag order on him. Yeah. Was there at Vance notice of the Trump's about the emails, and of course, it it was literally one hour after the grabbing by the pussy tape came out that the emails dropped let me just use the draw the draw was dropped the the of the drop them. So. Assassination attempt. Yes, or definitive proof. I mean, if you can get the guy in the right situation where he can speak free. My he has said stated before I can prove who did not give it to me. I don't know how you prove the negative. Julie Juliane would be one of the first to do that successfully probably worried sick days gonna get killed any may very well. Good kill. But man, a lot of just it's it's what a conundrum, you know. It's just a conundrum when you think about how the press is handling the situation. How? The press is shameful. And then you have all these guys like Lindsey Graham with thinks he's a traitor and should be Hong. Yeah. Who's the guy, you know, encouraging the dissemination it this is a bad situation. And I guess on remind everybody that you know, what then Bradley now Chelsea Manning. What was given the WikiLeaks? Besides all these diplomatic cables, which. Really, very interesting. You could build a story around him. And oh, boy, I'm so so shocked, but the helicopter gun ships kind of indiscriminately, murdering people and laughing about it and waiting for the double tap. And that was disgusting. Yeah. In the outrage should be about what we were doing our guys and gals were doing it was really I think Corbett and his his mouthpiece trying to say because they were discussing that people. Don't even remember, John. They don't even remember the MiG. Liz are in the way. So and then there's so much confusion between people because they still think about WikiLeaks and house that in combination with Snowden, which really wasn't so much Wiki leaks at all it was more New York Times in Washington Post and the guardian who were publishing the snowed and stuff. So. People easily say weeks published Hillary's emails. No was the DNC. But there's a missing link there is there is a person or someone this connection that has not surfaced. And that's probably what Muller had to go and hide. To to make that that bad news. Maybe it's the Seth rich thing. I don't know something had to be hidden. Yeah. Mop up mop. I got an Email from spook. He says I'm spook who also catches other spooks. Good spoke catcher spook catcher spooky spoke catcher spook catcher. Anyway, the whole spying thing. Which we we have the fly think you have to the funny Komi L Komi. I this is unfortunately, I'd like to get the bigger clip. I couldn't find it either. I was looking everywhere. It's like I want to hear what he says right after that, I'll cut it off, you know, typically ill like about earlier show on all in on that is bad. And it's also the clip itself is it edited by CNN, and I couldn't find it on CNN couldn't find any video from this conference here, effective bars comments. I really don't know what he's talking about talked about spying on the campaign. It's concerning because. The FBI that pharma Justice conduct court, bordered electron IX Valence, I have never thought of that as spying. So I'm packing that for a second. I love how we went from you need obtain a warrant. Despite on someone to will the court ordered us the spy. Very different. It's the same thing. Only just making it look like all the court ordered us to do electron surveillance. Order. Now, there's something else going requested it what? So here's here's the real problem. Remember, we were talking about bar mentioning the rules after Vietnam, and how how this changed and how they're certain things that that could constitute illegal illegal spying, and we were talking we were talking about what changes were those and bar kept Mitch using the word illegal, so yes. And so the spook who catches spooks said this is about section fifteen of executive order twelve three thirty three. And we've spoken about twelve thirty three a lot. I think it was signed into law eighty one. And this was this is what forbade forbids the CIA specifically from assassinating people fascinating leaders. Hey, guys, nineteen Eighty-one stop killing people and the second one no spying on American citizens. And I believe. Steve Brennan this being mainly Brennan thing. I think that Brennan didn't cover his as enough and maybe Mueller was able to help him because the did spy, and they are the ones not allowed to do that and heads will roll. In fact, if if anyone attorney general could prove that the entire Muller investigation was started with a CIA doing surveillance on any American citizen. The entire investigation can be invalidated and thrown out completely. Dan, there's real heavy fines for doing this stuff and people go by Brennan. He's so fucking nervous. He's a nervous wreck. He's coming out shake. He's irked about this. Because he's he's under the gun. Yup. He should just shut up and get out of town. He should. Yeah. Is making it worse because they don't have some sympathy for the guy if he wasn't such a jerk. Well, as we say in the Netherlands and cutting now, mocked rotter sprucer. Which means a cat driven into the corner can jump in weird ways. While those Dutch best one you've had so far. Thank you. Teaching people Dutch one podcast at a time. Now, there is a I've talked about this before the lib Joe's about their their banking on at least my lip Joe's. Yes, they're banking on Trump going down because of campaign fine. I campaign, finance but inaugural on the inaugural committee finance shenanigans. So I'm looking at the feet, and there they are. They're all jacked up about this woman Lulu ramen. Lula Ramdan is a reporter just shot a school, and she seems to have gone to Florida's Florida mid-atlantic or some school of Florida Atlantic something like that one of these schools in the middle of nowhere, Florida, and she works for the Palm Beach daily or some lower and publication, but she wants to have move up. So she's been doing she has the Rachel Maddow show. And I think connection there to between like minded lifestyle or no. A member of the community member of the lifestyle community. And so she comes on Rachel show. She sounds like maybe she's a Muslim. She seems more like cheerleader type with her voice. Quite a lesbian Muslim. You think she's a Muslim based on her name? Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. And I never I don't know that she's a she's a lesbian either or Muslim it just seems if you do do diligence it's just kinda crops up as possible. So, but I have no idea. And so she goes on mad on she. She's talking about the story. She wrote which apparently, according to lib Joe's is a breakthrough story. This is the one this is the tipping point the walls are closing in also closing in. Interior. I read the story story is I don't I don't know if she may be come a good, brighter, or, but it seems like a lot of loose ends. And it doesn't really get to the point. You don't know. I don't know if Trump knew anything about, but there's some corruption that took place at one of the gals is one thing I need to ask about Lulu is she hot. She is I would call her not unattractive. Okay. Good enough for me. Sorry interrupt. Yeah. Does that? Anyway, the point is is that I don't get this this being a key. I mean if anything somebody ripped off to camp wasn't Trump? Let's listen to this clip. One of the things that you mentioned in your piece is that the lead sponsor of the event was raided by the FBI just a few weeks after this event happened. First of all is there any is there any indication that there's any connection between that FBI raid. And what happened at this mysterious Trump inaugural gala, and do we know further with FBI ride rate was about yes. So that reporting was actually from Bloomberg business week. And you know, we know very little about the raid inside pan at that site pan casino. But we do know that a month later some contractors who were hired by imperial Pacific that casino company. Were arrested for harboring or hiring foreign workers legally on tourist visas. So you can infer that possibly had something to do with that. But interestingly enough these corporations and businesses sponsored the gala several of them benefited from Bill that Trump signed into law a year later that actually assisted them in offered more avenues for hiring foreign workers legally which in sensually allow these businesses to avoid what we now know some of them did do hire foreign workers illegally on tourist visas. It's I mean, you're right that we don't know how these dots. Connect the dots. That you've been able to spell out with this reporting and connecting it to other reporting years, we've got entities, including this rated Sipe pan casino firm, donating money to an entity that disappeared it. We have no idea where the money went definitely wasn't reported to the after that money was donated to this. Trump augural gala the Trump administration did take action to benefit those firms and others like them. Now. Nobody's accounted for that money. Still. And we don't have any sense that anybody's looking for it. It's just a. I realize it's a complicated set of facts. But when you line them up so to chronologically in terms of who got what what they appeared to spent their money on. This is just stunning piece. Sounds like you're a to'real journalism to me just like, it's just a hollow. Yeah. And this is what everyone's banking on. They're banking on this. I'm telling you. That's that is so odd. Rethink there's something there. And I think Rachel kind of hinted at the real futility of this approach because she says, well, it seems no nobody's even looking into this because they're not. Exactly. Eight. Got a I've been listening for chick. The man I bring to the table. Now, you've taken over you just doing over anything. But I did get a kick out of this particular thing. I saw this. I didn't even know about this guy until I saw the piece. Yeah. This is the guys very highly praised. And he's back. He's behind a lot of the Neo con stuff in potential hates him. And so I notice that went Pacek hate somebody who's had a run with them. And after the guy dies or whatever it is. But change just goes after him. And I'm reminded there was a scene in the last season of Berlin station, which was taken off the air. Yeah. It was probably too good. And the guy was one of the expo. Is when I did have a clip of this play it on the show. What's does expo gonna do podcast? Give pie caster. Right. I think that was Madam secretary was a different guy. But it was a same. This guy was the spook who decides to start doing a podcast and he's yak in about stuff. He shouldn't be acting about. Then eventually, they're worried sick. So you're you're acquainting to that to a former spook. Waiting for genyk to being an expert. That's doing a podcast now. He's a current. On the experts doing he's I don't think he is an ex anything who knows. Who knows he's a handler and enjoy very much for this very I think he's fascinating because he really shoots from the hippy brings a lot of nasty nasty. He's got a lot of nastiness. And I do know he's spoken about the didn't ring a bell them. But when I in one of our phone calls, he mentioned this guy. And I think this this guy. Well, see if you have that in the clip, and I'll tell you all the whole thing, it's Pacek. Maybe there's something to cut out. But this is Channing talking about the death of very famous diplomat character Andy Marshall, and I think what pajamas off was the funding opet that the Wall Street Journal gave this guy. And so, but Channing in his normal way has to set the record straight man, whom I know, and you know, nothing about his name's Andrew Marshall. He was the director of the office of nets Cessna, it all sounds very fans, but threes and on bringing up because he is the father of the Neo cons and the. Implementer in strategist for nine eleven the false flag. And the man who sent aren't telling the CIA in military into harm's way. Iraq. Let me talk about Andy Marshall indie Marshall was ninety seven when he died a few weeks ago. And the Wall Street Journal wrote about how great in American he was he wrote papers on strategic warfare. And he was one of our great thinkers nothing could be further from the truth. Could there because this is the point that you think we should play anymore of this atom? Yeah. I think we should this is very enjoyable. It's it's you're right. Even if it wasn't about spooks. It's just interesting that guy has no qualms whatsoever. Cutting down a guy just died. Yeah. Speak ill of the dead heartless heartless. And that's that's what we need are spook division to be heartless. Yes, I like spooks do this just as factual, ma'am, nothing else. I knew indie Marschall exceedingly. Well, when I was attended, however MIT I left and got into became the DASS for several ministrations as you all know, Henry Kissinger in Andy Marshall, very close Nixon had appointed Andy Marshall a man who never served in World War Two. Let me repeat it again. He never served in World War Two refuse to separate. He had a heart murmur. He could have served in the Korean war. He could have them the non when he said in any war he wanted to. But he claimed the a heart murmur, and he was not allowed to come into the draft. I thought that was nonsense, and I told Andy this, but Andy had a propensity for creating tapers that always declared that we Americans have to go to war and be number one. That's how we let the Neo cons in nineteen ninety. To Andy had a point is only Hollis Wolfowitz, Richard Perle Cheney Bush and runs fell as the key. Pri leaders in the Neo conservative movement. Meaning that we America head to be number one and Israel would be a co partner, and we would be involved in wars around the world to make sure that we stabilized and unified the world. Well, you saw what happened in Iraq? You saw would happen in Vietnam. You saw what happened tamales, Dan? This was all the product of eighty Marshall. I didn't like Andy Marshall a new that. You don't say. Team captain obvious. Now. That's yeah. He's a true. He's a Genesis of of the Neo cons who brought so much despair and death in hardness, even if this was as they couldn't do it. These guys were incompetent boobs. So let's play. Let's play him out. The reason I didn't like them. I found him to be a slimy. I sound found him to be stupid. I said to him. I don't think that your papers at the rain corporation where anything significant I think you were Machiavellian vigil who basically filleted it everybody above him. So we get into power how powerful he was exceedingly powerful because you never heard of that office Neta Cessna. Let me tell you. What happened when I met him? I said handy, not only do I not respect you. But I'm warning you that I have monitored you since the day, you left Nixon in. I've learned very well from us sources and the monitoring we had on you, Andy. Up to the point of nine eleven and then beyond that, you were deeply involved with the most. In fact, he was so deeply involved with the most I have to deal with certain sat operatives and sent them to prison and others. I made sure that they never functioned again. And that warned any Marshall a year before nine eleven as I walked through DOD. I saw the CIA takeover key positions. I saw five being put into position a man who had no quite credibility in our system. Wolfowitz Zalmay Hollas at a slimy Afghan who still right now doing negotiations, and if ghanistan, but he was the one that created the worn if ghanistan we have John Bolton a slimy. Little man who's in the White House. We have Elliot Abrams who I almost killed literally because he had gone against my own people in Panama and elsewhere. And then we had at the several others came back when I said to Andy was the following you in any way harm our country or you. Deal with our military. He will pay heavily for that problem. In fact, what did happen military intelligence monitored me, I'm minded than so let me quote, Andrew Johnson who said the fouling disunity within America is treason, but let me call John Wilkes booth sex Semple Toronto's thus always with tyrant towered in a tyrant was Andy Marshall good night. Good luck. How you really feel? You know, he's told me the Elliot Abrams story. Elliot Abrams is the guy who's currently doing Venezuela coup the guy Elliot Abrams say yes, he said he he nearly killed him. And the reason why Elliot Abrams had exposed several spies that Pacelli was running. I'm I'm paraphrasing along conversation and these spies were nuns, and he had them killed this. Andy Marshall had the nuns killed. Really? Yeah. The thing under the troll room. And yeah, there's a lar- about half the people like disparate jenex bullshit is you can't you should take a look at his bio on the wicked really. Yeah. You can't really deny his official credentials, and I'm just I think he's a gift. Gift to the podcast. He he is very disappointing. At least he must. He doesn't care. He just getting this stuff out. Yeah. But he he only has about twenty thousand views on any one of his little bits that he does. He does wanna week when every couple of days every once in a while he just and his wife comes up says that it's very funny thing to watch. It's not as over four million views of my Barney. Robots singing, and I love you. You love me yet. No, that's it's it's four million views of Barney owned by some guy. That's that's the video. It's not your your Barney video. Barney video this video of the Barney, I own nobody compete with Barney man, that's that's unfair million views it he gets twenty thousand for telling us really cool stuff within. I mean, I by the way, you can tell the chat room to troll room. I don't blame them for feeling this way. Because I it's just very like. Wow. It's hard to vary. Like, wow. What did you just saying? I mean stuff is. So it's so inside baseball behind the curtain stuff, then it's unrehearsed unrehearsed unscripted and it flows right out of him. And if you sit there, and you we we did a special with him, we do hour-long special show if you listen to them, and you're just googling being Wikipedia everything he says all the names all the dates the occurrences. It's it's as if we pedia is running in his head. I think he's the real deal. And you know, who the hell would even care what even care to say. This about Andrew Marshall Koo Koo no one exactly he sounds pretty real to me. Just because that was so heavy John. We need a little transition before we go into our into our second donation segment here. Yeah. Just to just take a breather. I got plenty of that on. Well, I have Maxine Waters with your Steve Mnuchin, you Maxine is now the chairwoman of the financial oversight committee is this this this the one I wanted to have a couple of shows ago. Yeah. Well, I haven't now. I have it. We'll just play a little bit. This. I think he's been there for a long time. Of course. It's all annoying said beforehand like I gotta go. I got someone waiting, and it's just it's just listening to Maxine and him go back and forth. Just kind of. I don't know. It's just it's a nice nice for the pallet, Mr. secretary. If I may you had indicated that you would like to have a press conference in this room following I'm gonna cancel that. I don't have time for that. That's what I was going to ask you if you would. Instead of having the press conference continue with those members who have been waiting here for so long. And I think what I thought I written only heard was factored eighty rather than five fifteen. So is it possible? You could give us fifteen minutes to get to a foreign leader waiting in my office at five thirty. Okay. I agreed to stay longer. It will be embarrassing. If I keep this person waiting for long periods. I wasn't ever press conference. I was gonna shoot Mnuchin. Also sounds like total dicked. Dick to go. I'm not going to do that. And I've assured you I'm happy to come back here and answer more of your questions. I respect the committee, and we wanna have a good working relationship with you. So I hope you'll understand I'm already going to be late five thirty do understand. We're laid over the time. Unfortunately, we all pressed for time. And I do get it. However, I think I indicated early on that we would request or require that you come back at least two more times in the month of may is that something you're agreeing to matter. Charlie find this to be you know, I have here every single time, Jack, Lew and other people came here. There's never been anybody. That's been here. More than three hours and fifteen minutes. I've sat here for over three hour and fifteen minutes. I've told you I'll come back. I just don't believe we're sitting here negoti. Sheeting when I come back. We'll follow up with your office. How long would you like me to come back for next time? I've told you comedy you. I appreciate that. I appreciate your a reminding us of the length of time others secretaries have been here. This is new way a new day. The new way it's a new day in new Chebbi ramming gavel at this point. If you wish to leave you may. She throws down the gavel. Which is the new ice of the day throws down the gavel. Can you clarify that for me? Yes, clarify is. So wish to leave. You made your dismissed, correct? If you wish to leave you may leave. At understand what you're saying. You waste your time. Don't remember you have a foreign dignitary in your own this. Say that the previous administer pre when the Republicans they did not treat the secretary of the treasury this. If this is the way, you wanna treat me, then I'll rethink whether I voluntarily come back here testify, which I've offered to. Mister secretary. I want you to know that no other secretary has ever told us the day before that they were going to limit their time in the way that you're doing. So if you want to use them as examples you have acted differently than they have acted as as I have said. It's a new mattress. Yeah. I have it here. The. To keep me here. So that I don't have my important meeting and continue to grill me, then we can do that. I will cancel my meeting, and I will not be back here. I will. I will I will not be I'm gonna run away from home be very clear if that's the way you'd like to have this relationship. Thank you, the gentleman. The secretary has agreed to stay to hear all of the rest of the members. Depress. The respect our time. I next. For meeting. You're instructing me to stay here. And I should can't you just made me an offer didn't make you an offer that I accept it. I did not make offer just let's be clear instructing me ordering me to stay here. No lettering. You I'm responding. I said, you may leave anytime you want, and you said, okay. If that's what you wanna do. I'll cancel my appointment. And I'll stay here. So I'm responding to your request. If that's what you want. What I wanna do? I told you to do what I've told you is I thought it was respectful that you'd let me leave at five fifteen to leave anytime you're on. Tennessee want pleased to Smith everybody. 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Hey, Horowitz, told me that you told him you're coming to the wedding was who said I wasn't please tone insult me. I've known you for twelve thirteen years, you're not coming to the wedding. Okay. That you believe that well for one you haven't RSVP. Oh, please stick streetcars Romi out. Yeah. Where's your VP? If you don't ours VP, then you haven't made a meal choice. So then you just get whatever you get a default whatever's leftover meal choice what what does the meal choice? You can choose from fish or meat. Rubber chicken? No. Halibut? No, it's salmon what it is. Mrs salmon, salmon. Okay, that's out. In less. It's fresh in. This is not farmed. It's it's all very fresh. It's made gotta be fresh visit farmed or is it wild wild. Never farmed kidding. Took too much salmon already. Yes. You will have the the ribs chicken chicken. We're not serving chicken. Well, is it going to be ribs like Texas style? Oh, I'm all in on that. Okay. You might want it for the ours VP. Yes. You might want to consider our VP don't want to salmon. Funny thing is we did a tasting this process. This industry is pretty interesting. So you tasting and then you get to share the dish. And you like and we both like salmon's good. But nothing compared to the ribs not in Texas. But the salmon is very good. And it's on it's on a bed of keen wall. Very good. Served by an effete waiter. Are just the worst. We're really doing this this. It's fun. Neither of us have really had a proper wedding apparently. Yeah. Apparently in the wedding cake taste that. That was fun. Oh, yeah. The way. Yeah. Are you gonna who's gonna Moshe the cake in the other person's face just so you know, we are both staunchly against that. And had decided long ago. You always say before you move the cake. No that's not gonna that's the rules. I looked at the way it's done. I you did not. No, no, no. We're never going to do that. And then one of you does it anyway. No, that's not gonna happen. It's lame lame. 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Here's the Deutsche Avella report breath. What the moon's hollow gravity? Can't get off my turf, okay? Get off my turf, this moon is mine Israelis held their breath held the heads or even cold on higher power as it became clear that something had gone wrong. National TV carried live images from inside the control room. And then the tension was pulp -able when the news at the land is crash was announced there was Solomon flows. Chiefs tried to stay positive about the outcome. You wouldn't. You wouldn't. But first you don't succeed. Try again. Wow. They needed to third cliche around it out to you win. Some you lose some if it I don't succeed. Try again, stitching time saves nine there you go. Would've nailed it. You're now BB's new SCR speechwriter. So I did have to I there was a now asus. Of what happened because everyone all the reporting. I couldn't find a clip of anyone saying it not that I wanted to play it anymore. But every headline was glitch causes it to crash glitch like that is so unacceptable. So I went seeking please. Can anyone tell me technically would happen? This is not just a glitch in had to go to Deutsche Avella to get one explanation. What went wrong on this mission? It was a crest landing. It was during the last second village crafts landing seconds, just before the touchstone. They were only one hundred fifty meters apparently about the surface and Ben mission control's lost communication for some reason. So we don't really not much better with the force loss communication for some reason, you might as well, just say glitch. But okay, what happened? Meters. But. Well, they say that maybe the main engine had problem. We'll maybe see in further investigations. But what is clear is that the bitter lender wasn't very robust as it's privately funded it needed to be cheap. So there was no back up for communication systems for the solar panel to keep costs low. So the big goal was to be the first nation on moon. This is confused me of the door to Bilas. She'll say this again about Israel being the first nation on the moon. Why would she make that mistake? And why would this guy not corrector twice in a row? I have listened systems of the solar panel to keep costlo. So they're big goal was to be the first nation on moon. This dream obviously crashed right? And even though they was so sure to make it if you look at Twitter feed, there was one person that tweeted is they will if they land on the moon, successfully they will be the first nation on the moon and they corrected not if but when? Missing something if you do they're missing something. And you're right. What isn't the guy say something about their we bomb the moon wants that's about the only time we actually reached. It's so obvious to me that, you know, nineteen sixty nine we sent up some tin cans, and and it worked, and we had that lunar module. We had dude on there and a and a damn Jeep that roamed around. And all this cool stuff any Israelis. Yeah. It's privately funded. Sure. But Elon Musk can, you know, I guess he got them into orbit and they couldn't land. I mean, what what is this how it's just not believable anymore. Here's space. I ELS general manager over door on probably mispronunciation in thirteen seconds. He'll tell you exactly what happened. We finished an initial look at our telemetry data. It seems that the failure in our initial measurement unit caused a. Chain of events in the space craft. They've y'all Knicks which off the engines and caused us to lose the mission failure in the inertia measurement component. Because of the hollow moon, man. Gravity is not the number was wrong. I I agree with you there. I think that gravity numbers off because it's hollow. Thank you Mahalo and to just crashed because they haven't done it successfully yet they want to be the first nation on the moon. Someone's gotta get their stories straight. Well, no is gonna do in our time. Well, so I got an interesting couple of clips through the interesting clips now. You know, the guy that was taking the test for the students. He was a rain, and I guess is going to go to Jason the the the college admission scandal. Yes, he was doing the tradition scandal. Do you? I want you to guess, I know you don't have this clipboard you to hear this. How much was he paid to take the SAT for somebody? And then also now take it. But get score. That would be apparently was so good. He could he could can manipulate the score. He knew what he knew all the answers making how much was he paid protest. Why would you think I wouldn't know this number it? Of course, what do you think? I do all day man, Florida prep school administrator. Mark Redel pled guilty today in Boston federal court to taking entrance exams for students in a massive college admissions bribery scheme. Prosecutors said that thirty six year old Harvard graduate was typically paid ten thousand dollars per test rebel could face. Up to twenty years in prison and a two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine. Did you think that was a lot? I didn't think it was a little or a lot. I thought it was good money for taking. I was thinking the same way like. Because you can only pick one up, you know, once every couple of weeks. I guess yeah. But it's ten grand. You do ten a year. He made a hundred grand up the top. Well, there's hope. Hey, exit strategy. Do you think you could ace? Do you think you could ace the the exam can pretty close? I got really high scores on the tease. Now, we all know why I went to West Virginia will West Virginia. Good good place to be okay. Okay. Here's the you know, we talked earlier in the show about that's true that girl. Yes. Yes. This one of our producers sent me the link to her talking about horse healing, which is what she does for a living. And she's completely different. She's completely different. She's still nuts. But she's completely different. And she and she's a little more normal awhile. If you wanna call it normal, it what you what you're going to hear here. But she I think I think we need to just give a little a little taste of people who don't know what we're talking about. What is your original clip? What it called the kooks crackpots forgot something something insulting? Yeah. Yeah. That would be that'd be about right for you. Come on, man. What's not in denial list? I wish I could the end Djelic initiative. That's the newer clips. Let me look to Mike just tell me the name. I just want people find it not every. Yeah. We all saw the picture of your studio. A lot to maintain. Yeah. I know you got to clean all all that equipment. I don't have Loic. Maybe here nut balls. Not mosquitoes. Nut falls to nuts. Contacting mary. All right. Let's for Mary. I cannot wait. This is from Mary. Contest the other Desa different nut by a lot of nutball clips nutball zero zero is when we're looking for to nuts on mosquitos. Okay. I I have to nuts. Oh, yes. Here we go face with this Hobson's choice of as a collective deciding to live gentler on the land. That's true not being poisonous like letting the mosquitoes flourish so that the birds can flourish at the mammals can flourish. So that all life can flourish. It's true. Okay. So I think everyone understands now if you never heard him and the know. Guiding energy pathways holding your arms up in the air like idiots. Well, I let me listen to this. I've seen the the entire thing. So I'm looking forward to refresher course of the that's true girl as a horse healer that it's not really possible to do that as a because electro magnetic field runs through all the aspects of their experience of sentient. It's possible for me to really get inside of their vet. It's not really possible to do that. And as a trainer it's not really possible to do that until this is very unusual skill set. And then once I'm inside the horses energy body. We can find the blockages that are underneath their problems. It doesn't matter. If it's a physical problem pave your problem in motion problem training problem. There's something under their keeping that horse from healing horse would have healed already. We wouldn't be having this conversation. So I'm trained surgically to be able to work inside the energy body. Get the blockage. Get it out. And then the healing often happens like a miracle. Sometimes it's more like physical therapy. And we keep going back for layers until the problem goes away. And we know it's healed because the problem and it never come back. So that's the first part in structural part of what I do that's different from normal energy healing modalities, which I recognize is very funny phrase to be saying in this room, and then the second part of what makes my work different from normal, energy healing modalities. It's where we leave the realm of what's even kind of normal. And now we're about to enter the territory of the truly weird Chopin's who in this room believes in guardian. Angels. Good guys upstairs looking out for you. Fantastic. You're on board. All right. I need to say something when I saw the this entire fifteen minutes. All of a sudden, it put into context what she's actually doing that her mom, or is that just another friend of hers that your mom mom. I done energy work. And I think she's I think she's legit. I have to say is it comes across weird that I think that's probably why you insulted me a little while ago. Because I think you're all in with this woman you and her are competitive when did I insult you? What are you talking about you said 'cause I'm named I said named it something insulting. And then you see. Yeah. Well, that's what you do. Which was. Yeah. Okay. So it wasn't insulting in is insulting a medicines. And because I knew when I had got this clip. I said to myself, and I'm gonna diss sounds like I'm selling you. But I'm not, but I am and I'm not meta. I got the clip. And I said, you know, what I'll bet you Adam is into this stuff, and he's probably going to push back a little bit. And and be in take the side of this of this woman, who is clearly a crackpot now. That said she does. And I believe this to be true. She is hired by some of the top trainers in Kentucky. Fridge real money for real money. Don't pay they're not cheapies. We're talking about lots of money. So I'm not gonna say that. Well, I guess I'm gonna say bull crap. But okay, she's a horse whisperer. No, she gets inside the horses energy body. And once she's in there, then she can easily see the areas that have blockage that need to be opened up and thera men. Yeah. When you call it, then you gotta give it to. But I am not insulted because just as I know how right nasty clip names, which was not meant insulting or passive aggressive. You're right. I am pushing back a little bit because I've benefited from energy work. And. Was it a guy or woman that was in your energy field woman was call which? What? There's a funny punchline to that. Where is it? I'll let go. Okay. Do you in the candles set? Your you set yourself up, and then you can't deliver the punchline sad because it's punch just I-. I backed off right push back in I chickened out. So that's that's true girl. You have a couple of updated who to get out of the way. Yeah. I amir. A mea culpa. I incorrectly identified show fan show favorite. Professor Stephen Cohen. When it was really Andrew klavan who sounded very much like Cohen on the previous this clip to begin with someone sent it to me did someone Senate to in dented it. No, no, I miss identified. It. He said this is on the Andrew club and podcast. And this is part of the problem when you have thousands of producers. This was on the Andrew klavan podcast. Have a listen. So I listen, I think oh this is Stephen Cohen because I don't know Andrew klavan. I've never heard him. I didn't know it was him. But I feel bad because we trash professor Cohen unjust trash professor because you wouldn't put up with an interview by us. Well, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. See didn't trash for what he said there. 'cause the stealer of the material was Mollie Hemingway. Right. Yes. Well, no, you didn't really trash Cohen as much as we trashed him angry and Cohen for not speaking. But even though that whether that was Cohen or not that fact remains hold on. I'm just getting into into the professors energy field. Energy body. Okay. Good. I got it. Everything's good. Fix it. Yeah. We'll remove the blockage. So the yeah that was a mistake. You made my mistake. And I I blame myself because I have listened to klavan show. A couple of times, and I should have caught this. It was my fault. I consider because the way we work this show is that would call it a control each other constantly, and when somebody makes a blunder and screws up royally, the other person's supposed to jump in and column gloat. Depends on the script 'cause you make these minor errors all the chew. Bizarre. Now. That doesn't eat nethon glory. But this would have been good one for me. But no, I completely dropped the ball. I wasn't. I don't know if I was not paying attention. Or if I wasn't thinking, I was urged by Cohen that wanting to do the interview clouding my judgment at the moment. Yeah. Klavan show is some listen to klavan show. And get clips Younis not clip -able for one thing. He does what we do. So it's this. This is something I need to mention people say, you know, send me a Email, whatever great great clip for this. And it some guy talking about a situation. That's not interesting for us. We went news reports. Yeah. News reports we want a person who's in the news who happens to be on a podcast typically. Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna play Jimmy doors opinion, although it doesn't always differ from ours. But who gives a shit Jimmy door? Just like he's like gives us shit is curry in divorce. We need the people who are being discussed if they're on the show that it's a big deal. Yeah. And even Abby Martin doesn't qualify. No. Delia? She was under Jimmy, you know, the problem with this woman, originally, an Oakland or as far as I know. But the problem with her is that she gets these guys. She's like a van gets them all jacked up like Elizabeth homes. She got that kind of affect this would. That's what Martin does she gets. He's bats you get all made app. She doesn't go in plain. Jane like, she normally is she is all made up or heels and tries to stand up in them. And then she's there banner is at these guys. These guys are melting. Yeah, this is not good. We're not getting clips about this. This is no good. I mean, she does the same thing with what's his name down in L A, your Grogan. She comes on Rogan show, bats rise a lot and cusses for some reason she's on Jimmy Dora show, and she doesn't cuss so much. She goes on Rogan show. She's Cussing up a storm. Yeah. I give her this. At least she gets on Rogan show. I couldn't get on rolling. I'll tell you put some makeup on blue eyeliner. And curse. I've got. I've got the cursing down curse. Maybe we're some tight pets. I want to play one last clip because it kind of sums up everything that's wrong with a lot of people when it comes to climate change. This the entire narrative has now come together into one ball of statement that Bill Maher put together in his show in his new rule segment, and I cut out all most of the clapping and stuff. That was like had joke after joke. Do they not I want your message not your joke? So what he's out of context in that regard. But it's very clear that the concept of there's too many people live large amongst proponents of the green new deal in the new world order and globalism in general. And I was very surprised because we've been through the population bomb thing, and it turned out to be completely bullcrap. And the adverse was true. And here's Bill Maher and love it when I do those setups doesn't start. Get out of my energy body and start the and finally new role. Let's take a break from bashing millennials for their safe spaces man buns. Avocado toes and give them credit for doing something. Right having less sex than other generations. And so less babies, which is good for the planet. First of all, why is is this a common belief, or is this just the the applause sign went on? And they applauded or do people really think that's great. And do you think it's better if we if we have less people, there's an awful lot of that going around that me is going around. It's going around big. Well, yes. Well, here it is that. But instead of asking why young people are having less sex. Let's just be glad they are birthday is coming up, and I can't think of better gift to our planet than pumping out fewer humans to destroy it. People talk. Insane. I'm against this talk. Yeah. A lot about bringing a cloth bag to the market and driving electric, but the great under-discussed factor in the climate crisis. Is there are just too many of us and we use too much shit. Climate deniers like to say, there's no population problem just like the wind of an airplane. Something an empty space down there. But it's not about space Tabet resources, humans are already using one point seven times the resources the planet can support where there's that thing. Again, that was not an AO see thing. Crops up. These things are these are all population control nut balls. They want trying to kill off the trying to kill us. Trying to kill us off world's population is increasing by a million people every four and a half days, and that's just on the four. Oh five. I gave him that one. We don't need smaller carbon footprints, we need less feet. I mean, some days a simple trip to the grocery store takes hours between the traffic and finding parking the lines. I tell you. I don't know how my assistant. See when he does that. That's that's when I kind of go towards the Rogan camp of thinking his this whole thing is a bit. And he's just doing it to make these kinds of jokes. Because that's serious like what it's just a way. It's just the structure of his material period. He does that this is the same as the John Oliver bid and the can kolber not so much anymore. But you know, where you do you make a serious point? And then you back it off with something. That's ludicrous kind of funny to make people kind of think that you're okay, you're right. It is. It's the John Stewart. Cadence you're right. Ha ha, I'm laughing. And the message was embedded into my head. Dammit, yet divorce acurite again. See, I don't insult you. So it's no wonder millennials are freaking out about having kids. They in generation Z are waking up and mass to the idea that way too early in their lifetimes. The planet is going to be a shit show. Exander Cossio Cortez recently did a live QNA on Instagram which right? She said what he did a tell. Oh, they cost voice. God I missed it. I missed it a missing good one. Which no wonder millennials are freaking out about having kids. They in generation Z are waking up and mass to the idea that way too early in their lifetimes. The planet is going to be a shit show. Alexandria, Cossio Cortez. Recently did a lot. Wow. That was an in in vocal tell. Yeah, you're right on Instagram, which he said it outright. She said young people are asking is it okay to still have children Utah's Republican Senator Mike Lee went so far as to rebut a oh sees threat to stop breeding by saying climate change is an engineering problem and problems of human imagination or not solved by more laws. But by more humans, which is easy to say. He's a Mormon. When he dies he gets his own planet. Liberals are also at fault on this issue. I've never heard of liberal say that falling birth rates. Are a good thing, which they are everyone talks about falling birth rate. Like, it means something desperately wrong with a country. They're depressed. They're not fucking it up. Whatever problems are caused by falling birth rates aren't nearly as dire as the ones on by overpopulation in one thousand nine hundred there were less than two billion people on earth. Now, it's broaching eight we can't just keep going on like this religious too crowded. What was the last time you sat comfortably on an airplane? Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be nicer to just have fewer people around? You know, it's no secret that there are a lot of sounds like a white supremacists. Really to me just wants fewer people around the one on people in airplane with Jewish people and Joe business. This is good. This is this is actually very interesting this end. So you want let's go back. So again, the context you want less people. What was the last time you sat comfortably on an airplane? Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be nicer to just have fewer people around? You know, it's no secret that there are a lot of Jewish people in show business. So. On days here in Hollywood. When it's a Jewish holiday the traffic, delight. That's what we should be shooting for to make every day. Look like a Jewish holiday in Los Angeles. Very odd. Say used the word shooting, and then he wants less Jews and in context of fewer people. He saying fewer that's almost like something a joke. Hitler could've made. It's a it's coded. This is the way it was Trump. Yeah. If long noting that were shoot all Jews. Yeah. What he just said. Yes. We can play that game. As pretty disgusting. I don't know. Why did this is a very bad? You know, he doesn't study. We started off by saying we want this to many damn people, but just like Jews in Hollywood on Jewish holiday. It's great the world is great. So we want every day to be like a Jewish holiday when the Jews aren't. What we're shooting for? Yes. What we're shooting? Visit exactly it will just too crowded. The last time you sat comfortably on an airplane. Wouldn't it be nicer to just have fewer people around? You know, it's no secret that there are a lot of Jewish people in Joe business. So on day. On day, by the way that by itself. I want said that in Holland in an interview in the Dutch anti-deficit defamation league came after me, and I had to apologize publicly because I'd said that. It's no secret. There's a lot of Jews in Hollywood. Just saying to just have fewer people around. You know, it's no secret that there are a lot of Jewish people in Joe business so on days here in Hollywood when it's a Jewish holiday the traffic light. That's what we should be shooting for to make every day. Look like a Jewish holiday in Los Angeles. So. Please. Masturbate. Don't procreate. Which is what he does apparently before each show. So what is real message here? What does he really trying to say is he tried to say anything did he write it? I don't know, man. But he proved it because he's like head writer for all practical purposes, and even though there is a head writer, usually, but so is climate change. The problem is got too many damn humans, and we should be ultimately, we should be removing the Jews this way. I would look at it. That's what we're shooting defamation league. I don't know whether or not his case tomorrow to at least explain that. It was a bit. That'd be horrible though. Comedian had to explain his a bit. But he's a comedian talk show host. A lot of political stuff and kidding. Need to thank. Any ill. Jesse coin Nelson. Let me see and Danny loose for. They are bringing us the end of show tunes for this episode. And we appreciate that very much. And we'll be back on Thursday with a nother jampacked show filled with deconstruction, I don't know Scott. We found news. 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Podcast Extras:  Rudy, Don, and the $100,000 cocktail

The Semi-Social Life of a Black Introvert Podcast

15:09 min | 5 months ago

Podcast Extras: Rudy, Don, and the $100,000 cocktail

"Places please the dance is here. Are you surprised that rudy. Giuliani has corona virus. I'm not. I've known bats to carry viruses. I've read this and in books and since middle school him. Having corona virus the fact he has corona virus does not shock me when they came on the news. He had corona virus. Listen at a check my emotions and check myself again. Same thing happened with president trump hat krona virus. Y'all i was not so nice when i first heard the news. I'm not gonna tell you. I said because as between god and me and and You know i. I wasn't filming albion's amazed smile. I know i did. Because i don't have much sympathy for either of them. These two men that have denied corona virus. The fact that these two men deny for so long and then get it. And so i'm looking. I'm like okay. You know they they. They have krona virus and then some people like well. You know you're a good person you know. You don't wanna see anyone suffer with corona virus. And as. I don't know if i made that deal yet. I don't want to suffer with coronavirus. That's while i'm wearing a mask or i'm trying to social distance is why i'm doing what i need to do. I don't want to suffer. I don't want my family to suffer. I don't but these to these two. I wouldn't mind suffer low bit bit. If i'm being honest now i move my way back over to you. Know i don't want you to die. I out in small way over there. But in the meantime you could breathe heavy. I wouldn't mind. They breathe if they were breathing heavy. I wouldn't mind that because they've been so reckless. They've been so reckless in their handling of this pandemic holding rallies for people that don't wear mass. Yeah they do it in the people around them supported they enable them. They enable people to not wear masks. They themselves don't wear masks because they feel like they're above the law. They feel like they are above everybody else. In truth be told they are. Because wendy's to fools got corona virus including rudy. They after wait they have to go to To yarra or or go wait in the waiting room. They'd have to go to their basement. In sitting there for two weeks rudy. Went back to his cave. I'm sure and but anyway but they have to go through. With the average american has to go through with covert. they went to the best hospitals. Receive the best care some reports. Say they had this. This medicine cocktail cost. Nearly a hundred thousand dollars come on you a hundred thousand dollars for this for this cocktail of medicine that would fight corona virus on their behalf. American public let me ask you average joe or average joanie. Are you getting that wandered thousand dollars cocktail when you catch. Cove it if you aren't you should be upset if you aren't getting that one hundred thousand dollar cocktail. That's a steep price for a drink. If you not getting it you should be upset because rudy and dawn. Skip the line and as they skip the line. Is you the suffer sister. Family member says sufferers sharma. Mr data shankar should children's took grandparents. They suffer it. Meanwhile as they suffer these to come out the hospital in with wide grins and saying they fought krona viruses that they feel twenty years younger. Now the only feel one hundred years old and and and the smiling in your face as you applied. And they don't care about the crime of the century they probably have like four or five crime the centuries. But but here's another falling the average joe or the average joni in the into making them believe they're on the same playing field. We are know the art. Because you're playing field is not have one hundred thousand dollar cocktails. It doesn't you're playing field has maybe some flintstone vitamins and some water and depending on where you live. You may not want to drink that water. But you've baden you bought into their lies. You literally you bought into paying for their cocktail because these the this madison the taking that the greater public has not a will not ever take. You're paying for it out of your tax dollars in in we're all paying for it as our families die in a you know is not just rudy in is not just don. It's hope hicks. Its members of the white house. Staff that are in that elite group of americans that live recklessly and not have to pay the consequences for their actions. Their accents being that they have spread this virus. Recklessly across this nation to small towns big cities and they've told the american public to deny its existence an yet when it pops up in their own lives. They had nothing to say and why expect them to have something to say. Now i mean. They spent four years lying to the public. Why why say something the truth now. Hi. this is america. As much as i wanna be shot as much as i wanna be like. Oh this is crazy. How could this happen. This is the effects of white supremacy in this nation because it goes beyond white supremacy goals beyond treating black people terribly white supremacy also effects white people in effects depor. It affects the middle class because decisions are always made to protect. The elite whiteness can be shared but elitism will not be shared. White is will be shared. But money won't be resources won't be so are the white supremacy in this nation may not call you the n. Word though treat you like one though they'll treat you like one and that is something. You should be disgusted by that. Is where wh-. When dr martin luther king said that that the thing that she that should unite the black and white folks. This country is is how were treated on a class. Level were treated terribly by the powers that be the fact that we are black. Skin in white skin doesn't matter because they'll still treat you like any word muck on say it but you know what it is. One hundred thousand dollars for that medicine cocktail for that. I think is called regeneron one hundred thousand dollars and they rubbed in your face these smile and the cameras and they rub in the american in the face of america. It's funny Juliane even said the fact that he received the medicine was because he wasn't celebrity. He saying that he received a madison because of his celebrity status because his class status. So all my folks in west virginia on my folks north carolina alabama missouri. How does that make you feel even if you're a local celebrity united getting this medicine. You're not getting this treatment. This showing you the divide between you them yet instead of standing up for yourself you stand up to support their needs. It said trump and rudy. They both were released. I believe from the hospital in three days after taking all this medicine they both were released in three. Days is your mom. Who's in hospital suffering from covid Related complications released in three days. Is your dad is is your brothers sisters or child. Are they being released in three days. No they are not. Are they getting the tip. Top care no did not. They're getting great care. But are they getting the care of the president and his henchmen hints women. No because they're okay with you and your family members suffering suffering under under this threat under this virus that has ripped our very existence ripped every since normalcy. A partner lives their lives go on. I'm soaking to my wife that That if you don't wear a mask if you don't wear masks my mind. If i were president and in be lucky out i'm not president by the way if i were president i would have some sort of national waiver that you have to sign. If you don't wanna wear masks sign this waiver in signing this waiver you forfeit your rights to receive medical attention. Or maybe you don't forfeit him all the way but maybe you know like we can go to a To a kids doctor office. They have a one side is for sick. Kids in the other side is for. Kids is getting checkups. Sick adults room in suffer it out. You may have to be in the back of the line because you chose. You made a choice. You made a conscious decision to not wear masks a in once. You get corona virus. Do not wearing a mask. You spread it so now you are deadly. You're dying in your deadly and now you seek help. Help me. Because i made the choice. Not to wear masks. No sir go to the back of the line go sit there in suffer in the rudy. Giuliani waiting room where you can look at his grin and look at that crooked while his dripping die from his scout. You can sit there and figure out why you don't have that one hundred thousand dollar cocktail if you are admitted into the hospital. The only way you will leave in three days by walking in walking out on your own will a body bag just like everybody else that did ladies and gentlemen journeys over.

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Ep. 332: Predictions for 2020...and 2019's Hits and Misses - and more

PetaPixel Photography Podcast

38:44 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 332: Predictions for 2020...and 2019's Hits and Misses - and more

"Hi Everyone. This is Juliana Gazeta ru black and white for not architecture photographer ambition. Niagara for and you're listening to the Pixel photography podcast which Sharkey. James. Enjoy the show this episode is brought to you by our friends at Fuji Film Fresh Books Ben? ruined. Tamba further details and discount codes later in the show. And this episode a look back at my hits and misses from twenty nineteen, my predictions for twenty twenty and a little bit of this and that all that and more in episode three, thirty, two of the Paddock Pixel photography podcast. Thank you so much Juliana for opening the show. I greatly appreciate it sister if you especially enjoy black and white photography I think no I know you'll love the photography, my friend Juliana Goose Badeah ru she's an internationally acclaimed photographer architect author educator founder of envision Agassi and format high-tech global ambassador or workshops are ridiculously popular and sell out. So if you are now how she does what she does so well, follow her and make sure you keep an eye out for those announcements because they go quickly. When you see Juliane work, you will definitely want to raise your game no matter what kind of. Photography, you do her standards are high, and that comes through in her gorgeous images. So head on over to her website Giuliana goose body route dot com common spelling kidding. You might WANNA check out the link for the show notes for episode three, thirty, two at Pixel Dot com slash podcast that way you'll get there just fine I'm half Greek en even I get it wrong and I'd like to thank you all for joining us here in episode three, thirty, two of the Paddock Pixel photography podcast. We appreciate you all so much and thank you all for subscribing rating and reviewing us in I tunes. Listen to us, and as always we appreciate you hit that subscribe button. Do it now please so you don't miss a single episode as well as telling all your friends on social media and elsewhere and helping to get the word out about this show. Okay. With that I'm your host Sharkey James Let's hit it. Every year at this time, we get to look back at my predictions, compare them to reality. NC? Just how much of an idiot I am or not I think I've had a pretty decent track record overall I mean check each year's predictions episode like this one you're listening to now and see how I did. It's crazy a number of months ago. Our good friend Francisco Joe. Hernandez a Sony collective member, and one of the best people I've ever known he really is went back and started listening to my old show that was the Lens Shark. Photography podcast from five years ago. Now that was before I rebranded with Pixel eight months in doing that show and he was surprised with what actually came true that I had predicted along the way when I launched. That show back in December of two, thousand, fourteen I had been in a photography for thirty years or so including my time as a photo journalist but wasn't involved in the industry nowhere near like today not even close. It was just one man's opinion based on observation and a whole lot a real world shooting. Heck at my last full time position as a staff photo journalist I. Shot a little over fifteen hundred assignments in the five years and three months that was at that newspaper. But WHO's keeping track? All right. Light Room Light Room keeps track. Now for the kids out there a newspaper is kind of like a blog but on dead trees, one of those get your hands all dirty anyhow. That's obviously fifteen hundred plus times that I took the camera out. To shoot over fifteen hundred times I had to at least make one decision about exposure composition etc. Actually was a bunch of decisions pull the camera out of the bag enough times like that and just like anything else you get a really good idea of what works what doesn't what you like to see change etc that plus being opinionated and never being at a loss for. Words and boom. You apparently have what it takes to be a podcast or imagine how proud my wife is her late husband was a dentist and now she's married to a podcast. It happens and went off on a little tangent there. But listen like Francisco did check those old episodes out and you're gonNA hear some predictions that people absolutely just excoriated me on the biggest one having. Do with murless being the future. All Man I got so many darn messages about that. Well, here we are now in the actual future well from then now it's a future from a second ago. It's crazy doesn't stop and murless sales are killing it. Sony is number two in sales overall without DSR's remember and the world is a different place to say the least so much has. Changed Anyhow checking last year's predictions episode. Here are my hits and misses my first prediction was that both Canon Nikon would drop a bunch of bodies on us an lenses as well, and well, that's subjective. Of course, I really hedge. Now they're deny anyhow on that can inside things up until this point in early January, twenty twenty, the company is only released the thirty point three megapixel. And Twenty six point three Megapixel Eeo Sarpi along with the modified user are a thirty point three megapixel IOS are a that's their astro photography model Nice but not earth shattering bodies it's only been a year after all. So my prediction for can and is both the are, and the R. P. Will Get Revved Aka mark. Markku versions in their case because they like Nikon our interest that catch up with Sony full frame they have to it's critical. Also I, think we're going to see just one obviously pro model from them and at least one crop body. I'd bet onto. So okay let's say to ravs one flagship pro model and to crop bodies. That's my prediction now as for Canon Lenses, they're currently at ten R F Mount Lenses and that was their sole focus in two thousand, nineteen remember that's all they made and by the end of twenty twenty cannon I think is going to be at double that. So let's call it twenty are f lenses by December thirty first of twenty, twenty craziness because if you think about it by then they're only going to be a little over two years into making full. Frame merely bodies as well as lenses. They're absolutely great lines as the latest and greatest technology. So they're hitting it out of the park with that. Also, their Lens Lineup makes a whole lot more sense i. mean they're hitting all the staples while Nikon screws around with that pointless fifty eight millimeter F zero point nine, five knocked a great lands but one nobody wanted and it certainly not a lens that you would create before you have oh, I don't know a seventy, two, two, hundred to eight, but that appears to be changing soon and we're going to. Hear about that next episode now, as for Nikon, when I had made that prediction on December thirty, first of twenty eighteen, that company had already released its Z. Seventy six full frame bodies a year later, and we have yet to see either of those revved let alone or is it either one of the to let alone a new full frame body tomato tomato that's just sad. You know if you look back at how Sony did things, they cranked out new bodies like there was no time to waste and Canon and Nikon aren't exactly playing with the same playbook. Sony had to do that. So they could close the gap with cannon and Nikon's DSL. Ours Nikon needs the catch a clue and do it. They did because Sony has lapped them. So He's a number two now. So my prediction for Nikon as it relates to bodies is that we're GONNA see the mark, two versions of both of those bodies the Z. Seven Z six, and I'm hoping to see two more full frame bodies out of them but hope is not a prediction. So I'm going to be optimistic though and say, Nikon having now slipped a third place in overall camera sales. That's not good. So seeing the. Writing on the wall about sales, they're gonNA, come out with two new full frame bodies and one crop along with the revs of that. Z.. Seventy six to now this past October is you know the company unveiled its first crop sensor merely Z Z fifty and while we won't likely see that one rev because it's too new I think at most we're GONNA see another crop body like I said in twenty twenty they don't seem like they're going to be knocking them out. Here's the thing though if you're a consumer who's thinking about getting Amir less chances are you want those as expensive crop bodies they have just One. And if my predictions correct, they'll have to they really need a line of them now also in twenty twenty I think we're gonNA see Nikon's sales slip further as people have look at full frame and crop and decide and really realize that Sony and Fujifilm are literally years ahead in full frame and crop respectively or respectfully if you say incorrectly which you should not after all if you know you wanna go meritless and you want native lenses and you're likely selling off your kid. So if you're starting fresh why jump into assist that's so far behind you might as well just wait at that point so. I think Nikon further loses sales to Sonian film while others see that Canon clearly has the better plan and that sad to say, but I see darker days ahead for Nikon unfortunately camera sales in general are way down industry-wide and Nikon is ridiculously far behind maybe they should listen to my show back in two thousand fifteen. But nope, they did not and you remember a couple years back or so when they said that they're merely system was going to raise the Bar Wins Zach and a happen just wondering all right I'm all worked up. So we're going to have more after the break here I gotta calm down. Next. Last episode or photo assignments sponsored by the good peeps over at Fuji Film Was Number Fourteen share your night and my favorite is from user Bob Cullin Instagram of a lone figure walking through the grand entrance at Washington Square Park in New York City. Bob. Is a great photographer. 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Users get paid two times faster on average so easier and you get paid faster isn't that what you need I know I do voice fresh books with themselves. That's right. Super Meta cracks me up every darn time next. All right. Ask for Diaz Lars both companies we're talking about Canon and Nikon. Still we'll refresh their crazy expensive flagship bodies since the Tokyo Olympics remember are rapidly approaching and they're both due to be refreshed. Anyhow, it's been a minute those massive bodies with their integrated grips were once the cameras at many photographers wish they could own but that ship I think has long since sailed at six thousand dollars on up there out of reach for many many people and they're mostly overkill to I loved my. Nikon d four ask but it didn't do darn thing to improve my photography and that's not what it's for. That's not why you get one of those few photographers need these heavy pricey beasts when you have an entirely capable cameras out there like Sony's a-7 mark four and they're a nine mark to hack a seven mark three is such a ridiculously wonderful camera that if you can't get it done with that body photography may not be for you. That's how great they are now if you're knocking. Around. In a war somewhere then of course, go get a d. four asked d five whatever. But most people aren't doing that thankfully now as for Sony it's going to be more of the same I. Think you know reading their bodies now at a slower pace like I predicted a couple years back or so and hearing twenty twenty, we will for sure see the a seven ass mark three that's happening. It's been forever. Now people want a great update to a wonderful low light beast I'm talking. About as seven asked mark to and House my prediction last year that we were gonNA see the seven s mark three and we did not. So let's push set in two thousand twenty that sounds a lot better now as for Fujifilm that's one company I can't do predictions on as I said last episode they sponsor this shows photo assignments and we thank them for that keeps the lights on here and I signed a rather large NDA with a whole lot of legalese which allows me to have advanced. And access to products with the agreement not to talk about Adam until they're publicly released. So those would be some pretty easy predictions if I made them and I will not I think it's safe to say though that a whole lot of great stuff is coming out of Fuji Film in Two Thousand Twenty that's easy to predict and okay according to the Nda da and yes, that kind of rhymed it happens you know I get asked all the time what camera system should I have I'm starting fresh what should I get and I always tell people if you know you`re Going to need full frame you go Sony. If you're okay with smaller lighter, less expensive awesome glass and bodies you go. Fujifilm I mean they've already got what four or five years under their belt of doing this. So me personally, I saw my fifty which I need to sell. If it were me, I wouldn't buy into a Nikon system of any type. The company also make dumb decisions these days like that fifty, eight, zero, point nine, five, knocked I mean that is a point distraction. You need to flash out the line with F. to a glass before you make that. Goofy Lens I think that was just a showpiece. Look what we can do as I've said in the past, I think maybe Nikon will be the company that hangs onto making DSR's law canon and others drop them. You Know Nikon just doesn't have the kind of money to go big in both Lars in Maryland in my opinion, and that's worrisome. So maybe the way the increase their sales long-term is to just keep on making both in the past we've seen all kinds of companies move away from making products that they were once known for and made them a whole lot. Of, cash only cut those loose and then other companies come in they fill that void and they make the money that company just doesn't care about anymore I mean it could have happened with apple. They don't need to make computers anymore they by far make way more money with the IPHONE, but perhaps unlike Nikon, they can afford to do that. Maybe Nikon can't. I don't know hopefully they can. So if they do keep making DSR's the people who love shooting Nikon who don't want to ever go murless would have an option there and they'd be so ridiculously happy about that. Maybe, Nikon can buy back their stock and go private no shareholders to make happy that might be helpful. Now, one of my predictions is that the D. seven fifty, a wonderful body that I used to own and getting a little long in the tooth it's been a while is going to be updated, and since we've heard from Nokia. Shida, and Japan that this indeed will happen and we're gonNA hear about it at CS. Once that's all announced at that huge huge show. In Las Vegas, we'll have more information and what's going to be called the d seven eighty apparently and a whole lot of other news. So we'll have that next episode like I. Said apparently, we're going to finally see as amounts seventy and two hundred to eight from the company something that Canon wisely chose to do not too long ago, and unlike Canon's it's going to be closer to the size that we traditionally no, a seventy, two hundred to be. That's the rumor at least cannon obviously since we've seen it, it's available made an executive decision to go smaller because they could and that was the right decision. Glass doesn't need to be any bigger or heavier than need be, and one of those reasons is to not look the part impress people with your skill, not the size of your gear. No one wants Jinan guarany more. That's really not a thing now when it comes to meritless versus Diaz Lars General, this one simple the esl our sales are going to continue to decline as merely sales increase that's easy and yes at some point, it's just not going to make sense for cannon and maybe Nikon to make a DSL I mean, why would they if it's not making a whole lot of money for them cut that loose? That's our research and development dollars that you don't have to invest in Maryland. This is clearly what people want these days. I mean the sales bear that out and I don't think that's going to change. This is not a murless fad whatever reason. That somebody has for choosing a DS lar- over mere `less right now, whatever that is that reason is quickly eroding by the day off the top of my head. The only super compelling reason that I can think of is because you have a ton of money invested in glass and you just don't want to have to sell all that and combine it with additional money to get the Murless Z. versions of what you have now or are versions of your shooting cannon actually that spawned another good reason as people move to Mir less and increasingly unload their glass, you're going to be able to get some great deals so if you stick with DSR. Lens you've always dreamt of after all. That's a pretty darn good reason actually. All right. Another good reason just came into my mind. Let's say you're on the older end of the time line and it just makes sense the hold tight with your current gear and rent murless body in a lands to scratch that edge and you call it good. All right. That last one was a little sad. But Hey, not all cameras last and neither do we. So you know actually screw it go get. Yourself a meritless while you can now some things I'd like to see in two thousand twenty that we may or may not see are some Super Super Entry Level Eos are and Nikon's Z. Murless bodies where are they? I mean here it is more than a year after both companies finally got into full frame mirror less Nikon's come out with their a pse crops Z. Fifty, but that's not exactly super cheap. I'm talking about the four hundred dollar bodies that you see at best buy Costco. Sam's Club etc. Half the price of the Z fifty I mean come on guys not everyone wants to drop that kind of cash to get a camera. They just don't. That's why four hundred dollar cameras exist. A lot of these people want something that's a step up from their smartphone at Costco. For instance, you can get Nikon's D thirty hundred along with her eighteen, fifty, five and seventy, two, three, hundred kit lenses a memory card, two batteries and a camera case for just five hundred dollars. That is insane. Where's the Nikon murless version of that? They need to get on that I mean if they want those customers who will eventually get a thousand dollars, maybe two thousand dollar body you gotta get into your system and right now they don't have an entry point at four, hundred, five, hundred dollars same with cannon they need to get people into their murless ecosystems. Now, there isn't time to waste. They've already heard how great, Sony and Fujifilm are another thing I'd like to see is. Ai In our cameras. It is slowly and that's the operative word here. Slowly creeping in Newark Cameras, you know we do a crazy number things photographic Lee with our smartphones already. But our cameras are still kind of on the stupid side. They really are this is going to change but Wayne Zach GonNa Happen we're in two, thousand, twenty already one of. My predictions from last time around was that we'd see more AI and software and APPS at Cetera and that it would be huge in two, thousand, nine hundred and it was just look at skyline luminary, which is my favorite tons of great new AI on there and more on the way everyone's doing that now, and that is not going to stop that's. Not a prediction that's just a given anybody could predict that. But where is it in our cameras nowhere near that level and another thing when the hack is Sony completely redesigned their menu system it still sucks it's gotten better, but it sucks their cameras and lenses are amazing. But the menu system is still pretty darn bad. It's just not natural. Let's. Call it unnatural is frustrating roll out a new menu system and a firmware update, and then give people the choice of which one us you can switch back and forth between them. Let them customize one something that is totally doable and would be very much welcome. 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So they've got a lot of motivation they need to either or either get people into their Mierlo systems or have them be happy with their Diaz Lars that they currently own a bit longer because look at how much time going by between revs of their DSL ours and feeling that's going to stretch out a whole lot longer. You've got people going over to mirror list. That's where the sales are. They've got less incentive top they diaz lars let alone come out with new models. So that's going to have to trail off at some point and at that point people either live with it or they go ahead and jump over to their murless. System at that time, and then by then they've got a lot more lenses and a lot more bodies to choose from. They just need to hope that people don't switch on over to Sony. Fujifilm. Etcetera there's just no way that Canon and Nikon are GONNA go to three years between updating their murless bodies that's not going to happen eighteen months tops. So I guess you could call that a new slash revised prediction. Now, a massive failure of a prediction of mine was that we would see the return of two card slots in whichever new cameras that the company's release full frame of course, and that did not happen granted. We didn't see many new cameras but we're GONNA. See a lot more here in twenty twenty though and I'm just going to do it and double down here and say we're going to see the return of two card slots but just not in every full frame body let's say the higher end ones the ones that her a lot more expensive than the ones they have out now that should really though be a standard feature in pretty much every camera out there maybe not the four or five hundred dollar models. But come on if you're spending fifteen hundred bucks on up, let's say give us another card slot and justify it as people may if you're shooting a wedding or something else where a card failure would ruin. Your Day or reputation maybe you're trusting that single card slot a little bit too much. We've had card failures, and if you haven't had one yet you will have one at some point, my fujifilm x t to and the x t three, which I'm going to buy one of these days or months are both aps see both of them are small bodies and yet both have card slot. So it can be done for whatever reason people excuse it away and I just don't get it gives us the second card slot. You can always use it for overflow or you could shoot photos to one videos to the other or have it as a backup, which is very important. Especially, if you're charging for your work I, also predicted that we weren't going to see some really amazing innovative tack out of what was then the big to. Sorry. Nikon and I was correct nothing and that's because as I also predicted they're too busy trying to catch up with Sony I. Mean that New Seventy, two, hundred from Canon is pretty amazing. But that's really not a new innovation. One of the things that I predicted was by the end of Twenty nineteen, they would field cameras that were kind of on par with Sony and I must have just hit my head or something because I was being a little too optimistic. There I gave them an entire year and That did not happen. So we'll see what happens with the mark. Two's and all new bodies hearing two, thousand twenty my prediction is there going to be closed but still not quite there I mean that's GonNa take some time. That's understandable. It took Sony Awhile to get there, but they better hurry especially Nikon being in third place can't possibly feel good Sony pulled themselves in a second place and some of my predictions when it comes the Sony where well that I one seven s mark three would come out and twenty nineteen and it didn't. But to be fair I, think all of us predicted it would come out then and it did not. So wolfer Scher, see that. In Two thousand twenty here. Now I also predicted that we might see the a sixty, six hundred replacing for the a sixty, five hundred, and although that didn't seem to be a huge priority in late August of twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, it arrived. So I'm taking the W on that one, my batting averages kind of dodge you this time around. There's still time to pull it out now, another w for me and helping bit with average was that we would see this Sony, a nine mark two, and we did it just wasn't a massive improvement over the originally nine. But Hey, a win is a win and speaking of wins I said that you wouldn't see any new. Body alone lenses, and of course, we did not the company just doesn't talk about that system anymore I gave it Zombie status what like four years ago but I'm calling it dead now I doubt we are ever ever again going to see a new amount body or a mount lenses. So let's officially call that a prediction in twenty twenty no new amount gear. That's an easy. Win I. Think I may regret. Saying that this time next year. But come on I think it's pretty safe to say now with smartphones, these devices that we rely on so much these days and it's also a device that we increasingly used to shoot photos professionally of course, sometimes good enough is good enough for a lot of people's needs and the vast majority of the population feels that way. I don't see that changing anytime soon, and that's partly. Why camera sales keep declining, you know it is what it is and that's okay. Camera makers will continue to make great cameras which will be better than your smartphone. Always I mean come on the half to be. So there's no reason for anybody freak out about that anytime soon, we don't live in a world where smartphones are replacing Lars or merely bodies that's not happening I always make a Gopro prediction seems. And their stock price is down ninety percent from a tie back in twenty fourteen and for good reason, the competition is arguably as good or better in DJ is case and while the Gopro Amax and the hero eight black are pretty darn sweet. They're just not lighten the world on fire as a company over their their stock price has remained flat this entire year for longtime actually maybe they should get into drones. Oh. Wait Yeah. That's still awkward to talk about all these years later Karma is a well, it's a dead drone is what it is I mean they were falling out of the sky there for a while, and now there's word they won't fly at all not since the end of last year. So there's that will go pro be around twenty twenty one maybe maybe not I'm GonNa sit out predicting that one every year I think they're going away it's just hard to say they. Seem to hang on for some reason, they don't want to leave until their last dollar is spent and you got to appreciate that they've got fight now. Dj. I on the other hand they're firing on all cylinders that company can seem to do no wrong with its product offerings they seem to know what I want. It's like they're in my mind it's spooky. Okay. It's time for my annual many. Ortiz prediction and if you're not already following him on social media or Subscribed as YouTube channel, I'd be surprised he has a lot of follower. So do that right now if you have not manny rocks and man, he did have an amazing twenty, nine nineteen. So amazing that my friend we're talking about manny here went and screwed up my prediction last year I predicted that Sony would name him an artisan you know from the ranks of their Alpha collective and I guess we're just never going to know if that would happen because he. Pulled the ripcord and did what many not many would have the guts to do actually manny did and he punched out of the Alpha collective program why because in doing so it meant more freedom to explore other systems at will three hundred and sixty, two, thousand people with great taste I might say follow him on Youtube so since it's obligatory to have a manny prediction I'm GonNa say that he's GonNa top a half a million subscribers by the end of twenty twenty. It's on Word Network for him and so many people enjoy videos and you would to man he's a great guy. Now, as you know, we've had a bunch of health issues, my family so that knocked me off course but I'm getting ready to launch a youtube show that like this podcast hasn't been done before. So Watch out for that. My Garage Studio figures heavily into it especially since it's winter and I'm an indoor cat and I think you guys are really enjoy what I'm doing. Also I wanNA wish the Pixel mothership a happy ten year anniversary of. The blog, a full seven, million unique human beings and growing reads petted pixel each month, and that is absolutely insane. Now, if we could get all of them to listen to this podcast, that'd be great. So that's why I tell you tell a friend let's double the audience. That would be awesome. So there you go the annual prediction show and like last year I think it's important to remember to spend more time with your family and friends. Let them know how you feel about them and get yourself in some more photo's sometime we often forget about that. I'd like to thank you all for listening episode three, thirty, two of the Paddock Pixel photography podcast don't forget to check us out at Pixel Dot com slash podcast the show. Now let's see what else we have for you. 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Ep126 Recognizing the Raw Spots in Relationships (EFT)

The Virtual Couch

28:43 min | 2 years ago

Ep126 Recognizing the Raw Spots in Relationships (EFT)

"Uh? Hey, everybody. Thank you tuning into episode one hundred twenty six of the virtual couch. I'm your host Tony over Bama. Licensed marriage family therapist, certified my blabber, coach writer speaker has been father four premiere on runner and creator of the path back and online pornography to recovery program that is helping people reclaim their lives from the harmful of exit pornography. If you or anyone that, you know, struggling to put pornography in the rear view mirror once and for all please point them to Pat back recovery dot com. And there you can download short e book that describes five common mistakes that people make when trying to overcome pornography dictionary. And that his path back recovery dot com, and please visit virtual couch on Instagram and now you can find the virtual couch page on Facebook that is new previously. I was just pointing people to Tony over a licensed marriage and family therapist, which is there as well. So go like them both. If you are a Facebook kind of person why not and if you have a minute, and you've enjoyed some of the virtual catch podcast material. Please review subscribe past the podcast episodes along just wherever you get your pod. Cast a quick subscription rate review would be wonderful. And if you're looking for more couples and marriage information, I suggest that you head over to Julie's podcast. It's called ICU. I had Juliane my podcast a couple of weeks ago talking about her struggles with anxiety and depression, and she did an amazing job. Honestly, talking about how she kinda thought she had that beat over once twice maybe three times. And if anybody else just had an ADD moment there once twice three times a lady song from the seventies. I'm drawing a blank on who sang it was the line of Richie song. But anyway, I digress. As they often do, but Julie did a wonderful job on discussing how medication played a role for her. And I think that's one of the questions. I get often is first of all in the best questions. I get is can I prescribe medication which I cannot that is a psychiatrist who is actually a medical doctor. I am a marriage and family therapist, right? Above me as a clinical psychologist, and they can do. All kinds of psychological testing, and that sort of thing that's one of the things I get a question of often. I haven't some of my QNA documents. But I only have ever addressed that so Emma, Dr. No. But do I correct people when they tell me probably not I should I maybe even photocopy to check about a decade ago that somebody wrote Dr over beyond because it is so good and I thought about getting the lab coat as well. But I don't think I've ever seen therapist with a lab coat in session. But, but what was it telling you, Julie Lee in her ICU podcast? We talked a lot about emotionally focused therapy EFT, and she just asked them banned tastic questions, we talked about communication, and and then problems that often happen with couples, and then she asked about the hot topic gas lighting. And so we got into some good discussions there. And I'll have that episode up as bonus content on my podcast probably a few weeks down the road. But I always love the first point people over to podcast. Maybe I've had a chance to be guest on and Julie. A really really good job. So I would suggest going over to her ICU podcast and chicken that up sewed out. All right. So today I've been I've been trying to talk about this wanted to do an episode on this one for a long time. And I've gathered data gathered ADA in the way, I do some of the podcast. We'll call it research is all have stuff come up in a session. I've got a separate document on my ipad will run over and write down, podcast ideas. And it's funny. I often liked to let a client know that. I'm doing that. Because I don't want them to see me all the sudden just ferociously clicking away on my ipad. And making them think that I'm just got yahtzee a game, I'm playing or something, and they think that I'm not paying attention. So let them know I'll say, hey, Tiffany for a podcast idea. So I'm just gonna take a second jump over this other page write that down really quick. And I can never quite tell people are excited that was an epiphany or if they feel like oh, man. I must must really be broken. If I'm saying something in this guy is thinking about doing a podcast about it. And so this is one of those though talking about raw spot so emotionally. Focused couples therapy and annoyed talked about that just ad nauseam. So there's plenty of podcast or you can kind of go back and get the basics of the EFT's. Matter of fact, if you want to go back to that I see you podcast from Julia just mentioned, but there's a concept in EFT called raw spots. And I really love this. I love just kind of bringing some awareness to what raw spots are. I think it helps to know because and I found an article that I just bookmarked longtime ago, it's by a woman named Helena Manson, and the she I believe she's that there as well. And she wrote this on good therapy, or which is a pretty good website as well that has a lot of therapy, topics. But she was just talking about every can ask the question told the story personal story hers. But she said do you ever feel like you're living with Dr Jekyll mister Hyde? She says that your partner is warm or loving and compassionate one moment and then angry or silent or indifferent than next. What's up with that? She says you most likely rubbed your partners Ross by and I know even for me at times, I can feel. Like, I'm just going along minding my own business. Life is great. And all of a sudden, I'm kinda. Wow, I'm noticing that. I am shutting down. What is the story? My brain is telling me is that the omega, you know, I've been offended story. Or is it the nobody understands me story. But but what happens in those moments where you quickly go from Dr Jekyll mister Hyde or vice versa. Or when you notice that something happens in your partner, what she says what Helena mass and says is that we all struggle with these vulnerable feelings in love, whether we want to admit it or not she said, it's inevitable that will hurt each other with careless words or selfish, selfish actions. And I love that concept because really around EFT. This whole concept is that I want to get to the point where I can be able to bring something up with my partner feel safe enough and securely connected enough to bring up anything, even when they say a word or phrase or there's a tone that that kind of kind of does something to me. And I'm not saying that you just get to say, hey, I never want you to use that tone again, I never want you to say that word again, but it's important to be able to. Be aware of. Wow, I just noticed that I kinda shifted my my emotions and why what's what's underneath that. Or of course, what we're kind of putting out here is that we're hoping that maybe our partner will recognize that. Hey, something just kinda different happen. And will they be able to bring that up? Now. This is a whole other podcast topic that I do actually have a note on as well, we never want to kind of be testing our partner if we start to kind of emotionally withdrawal that is not a test for a partner to recognize that in and I think a lot of do that. I know that I've been guilty of that in the past as well where you start to pull away and you want your partner to say, hey, what's wrong. Even if you know that the answer you're gonna give is nothing. So so we don't want to kind of put out these tests, and I have people that are very, honest and therapy that talk about that where they will say. Yeah, you know, at times, I kinda tested her to see if she was paying attention to that. I'm gonna I'm gonna withdraw the one here time when I say that from a guy standpoint is where there has been a lo- desire desire couple. Here's a plug to go back and listen to that episode with Dr Jennifer finless in fife a couple of weeks ago about low desire and high desire. But if you have a guy who feels like there is a imbalance in the world of intimacy in the marriage. And so I hear this often where the guy says I'm just gonna go couple of weeks. I'm not even gonna ask for it. I'm not even gonna let her know about it. And we'll see what happens, you know. And those are just unfair test. We don't want to be doing that. Because our partner could all of a sudden feel like, wow, he's not he's not constantly hounding me about intimacy and making me feel like that is all that he cares about. So she might be going along carefree thinking, hey, this guy's changed. This is awesome. To kind of pay more attention to this and see where this goes for the next few weeks while he's kind of doing this this test where he saying if she doesn't say anything about this in two weeks, then I'll really get mad. So we want to avoid those kind of tests, but back to Helena Manson, she says, the so we struggle with these vulnerable feelings in love and typically it's inevitable that we're going to hurt each other with careless words or selfish actions. She says, well, these occasion steam, the pain is often fleeting and we get over it quickly. But according to Johnson, Dr sue Johnson, a real she. She is a clinical psychology, Dr founder of emotionally focused almost all of us have at least one hypersensitivity also what she calls a raw spot and our emotional skin. That's tender to the touch. That's easily rubbed the deeply painful. And she said when this gets rubbed off enough it can bleed all over a relationship. So so Helena Manson goes on to talk about how these hyper sensitivities truly do kind of emerge out of nowhere, and the they can happen whenever we. This this need for attachment and connection. So when when our need for attachment connection is repeatedly neglected or more ignored or dismissed it results in two potential raw spots feeling emotionally deprived or deserted or abandoned. And so she talks about this. And I found that this is one of the things I loved about this article, she talked about she said, I know my Roth spot rather. Well, when I hear a tone of impatience, and my husband's voice, she said, I get angry and defensive and it sends me back. Here's the key. Here's where raw spots come from way back. She said it sends me back days when my father would dismiss me as being important or worthy enough of his time. She said my father's impatience was his way of disconnecting from the relationship that she had with her father. She said this experience makes me hypersensitive impatience signals emotional abandoned, abandonment to me and often find that as well where I find that it when someone does or I feel like I've worked on this over the last decade and half or two K just a quick pause. I always say that I wanna be extremely authentic invulnerable I rarely if. Ever edit the show, and right, then just the most odd noise intake of air just happened for me that I had to go back into that out. So I almost wish I would have saved that for a bonus track down the road. But when when I hear sometimes tone for whatever reason tone to me can rub a raw spot. So even let's say if my wife is having a particularly difficult timer experience or a rough day, and I kind of asked her question and the responses maybe with a tone that I kind of feel as dismissive. And that's where I record. That's part of why pulled this article aside Helena wrote that tone to me represents something significant tone represents abandonment or emotional withdrawal. Now, I'm saying that that is my raw spot. I'm owning that raw spot. So when somebody kind of quote takes tone with me, then I immediately go to this place where they don't care about what I say or they're dismissing me, and so one of the things that I love now. Now is that I can say to my wife. Hey, I kind of felt like maybe that was a little bit little bit harsh or or maybe your tone kind of came across a certain way. And she's good about saying. Okay. No. I didn't mean that. So, but that's the way to address one of those raw spots. So many of us don't have any idea of what our raw spots are let alone our partners, and we simply get caught up in this vicious cycle of petty squabbles. And conflicts when in reality these are symptoms of a raw or tender spot on our emotional skin. So how do you identify your raw spot? So think about a time in your marriage when you got thrown off balance when maybe you were communicating well things were kind of going going well between you and your partner, but then a small response or even more more specifically, maybe lack of response all of a sudden changes your sense of safety or connection with your spouse. So when you totally get caught up in reacting in a way that you know, would spiral into your usual dysfunctional pattern of relating to one another maybe you're aware of moment when. You find yourself reacting angrily or just sort of tuning out and so-. Helena, doesn't strep says let's unpack this incident. So when something like this happens when you notice this shift in tone or shift in the conversation, all the set, you were laughing all the sudden things kind of went south. She says what is happening this relationship. What was the trigger that created a sense of a motion disconnection for you what your general feeling in? This is this is key in the split second before you reacted and got mad or withdrew or kind of felt numb. What did your spouse specifically, do or say this spark this response? Because typically, that's the point where we've rubbed this raw spot something that they said something they've done away that they've acted in. Then we withdraw you said as you think of a moment when your own raw spots. Rub. What happens to your body? You might feel Spacey might fill attach some people say that they feel even hot or breathless or tighten the chest. Or they feel you hear these examples people feel an empty or shaky or tearful or cold or small, but all of these different. Feelings these feelings that kind of come from within when one of these raw spots is rubbed. She says what is your brain decide about the meaning of all this? What do you say to yourself when this happens? This is where I love combining a little bit of that acceptance and commitment therapy model with the what are the stories. My brain is telling me are they telling me, these my husband will never get it story, or I can't believe he just said that story or I can't stand. What he does that? He obviously doesn't care about me story, and whenever we're kind of brains telling us these stories we want to be able to find a way to kind of bring those stories out in the open. So that we don't just immediately fuse. There's that cognitive usually don't views that story, and that becomes a reality. Because once we fuse again, here's where I love acceptance and commitment their principles of our goal is to have a greater connection or a better marriage greater connection with their spouse. Then if my brain is getting need to use to the he'll never understand story, then guess what? I don't have to bring it up. Right. If I can believe that that is the true. Ruth if I can cognitively fuse to that. He will never understand me story, then I'm off the hook. Then I don't have to work toward that goal of emotional connection or being able to you know, what we're gonna work through problems as they come up. We're going to communicate about things that's that goal. And that's a great goal. A value-based goal. That is a real gold have and you relationship, but if you brain can get you just to that path of least resistance if he can get you to fuse to the he will never understand me story. Then you don't have to do the uncomfortable work of bringing up a raw spot. So so after this happens when when your brain's Tannen told you story, what do you do? Then how do you move into action? And so try and see if you can tie all these elements, together and Helena gives a kind of a cool little example, she says fill in the blanks below she says in this incident. So we're talking about whatever that incident does is where you notice that shift the trigger for my Ross feet. Roy my raw feeling was blink was at tone was a body language was at him turn. Inning, the radio up was it. What was it was it him checking his phone? You know, what was the trigger for the raw feeling and then she says on the surface? I probably showed blank. So what did you show? Let's say let's go that phone when I hear that from time to time. So if all of a sudden he's looking at his phone, so there's the incident the trigger for the raw feeling. On the surface. I probably showed. And what if it was just like, I just showed indifference or I showed withdrawal. But deep down. Here's an ex parte. She says I just felt and then one of the basic negative emotions. I felt sad. I felt angry. Shame. I feel fear where she says what I longed for was blank. What I long for was engagement connection questioning what I longed for was for him to say, tell me more what I longed for was him to even if it was to say, hey, I I just I just got a text. I'm waiting for something from work. Are you? Okay. By check this care concern. That's what I long for the main message. I got about our bond about me or my love was blank that. I didn't matter that he doesn't care that will always put things I so there we have a raw spot she points out a scenario to here's one I like this. When I hear this often, she said how about this scenario? Your husband asks you to watch a movie with them on the couch after dinner your head is pounding from a migraine. And you tell them that you're. Going to bed the next morning. He asked him if a certain outfit looks good on you. And he says, it's okay. But since when is my opinion really make a difference here where what you want what I want is irrelevant. So ever had that scenario play out still stuck in the feelings of rejection from the previous night, his sadness over the lack of connection with you that time watching a movie on the couch force him into withdraw and giving you the silent treatment in both scenarios rage withdrawal, mass the emotions that are central invulnerability sadness. Shame and most of all fear is my partner there for me. Do they care about me? Do I matter to them and my important do they love me? She says what's the dead giveaway. That tells you that you're raw spot your spouse's raw spot has been hit. I there's a sudden and radical shift in the emotional tone of the conversation, you and your spouse or just joking minute ago. And now one of you is upset or angry or aloof or cold. You're thrown off balance. If the rules all the sudden change, nobody told you, and that's when people just feel I often use this word therapy kinda feel blindsided. What just happened here that we were having a good time or? Hey, we just woke up. I'm I'm excited about the day. And I ask you what what you think? My outfit. What you think of my outfit, and all of a sudden, you're you know, you're withdrawn and tell me that doesn't what is your opinion matter? Anyway, so you're thrown off balance. It's again, it's it's kind of blindsided. So I there's that radical shift in a motion tone second, your spouse's reaction to a perceived offense seems way out of proportion. So there's another trigger that one of these raw spots has been hit. So again, I I trigger first evidence that a raw spot has been hit is that sudden radical shift in a motion tone, the second is your spouse's reaction seems way out of proportion again, how do I look today? And all the sudden, it doesn't matter. What say ever, that's that's a pretty? Out of proportional response to a question. So these signs are all about attachment needs and fears that are popping up. They're all about our deepest and most powerful emotion suddenly taken over. So we get set to kind of like how she puts this move in a particular way toward away from or against our spouse. So, hey, how do I look we're moving toward our spouse. Right. This readiness to act is wired into every emotion. So anger. We'll tell us to approach and fight. We get and that's what we get caught up in a lot of times. A lot of times we feel like the only way we can communicate with our partner is to approach and fight to get that anger going because we feel like we're not going to be heard. Shame tells us to withdraw and hide. So a lot of times of people are feeling shameful about something then they are going to withdraw their going to hide their curious if their partner will notice them recognize them be there for them and fear tells us to flee or freeze or real extremes to turn back and attack. We've seen that often in these often say when couples get into their bunkers. You know, they know that the conversations are going to be productively start heaving insults. So and then sadness, tell us grieve and let go and Helena says she still true about this. All this happens in nanosecond all this happened. So quickly that we just think what what in the heck just happened. So stopping these destructive patterns depends not only identifying and stopping the unhealthy ways of relating. But then finding and soothing the raw spots and helping our spouse to do the same. So here's how we do that she laid out seven different things that I really appreciate about how to stop we've identified that. Hey, something's going on what's a dead giveaway about a raw spot. Sudden radical shift in a motion tone of the conversation or your spouse's reaction seems way out of proportion. But here we go. Here's how we stop these destructive patterns, and here's how we help heal from those number one stop the game one or both of you has to say, hey, can we can we can take time out. Can we pause this? This is the place that we always go we get trapped. Here we end up totally exhausted into feed it, you know, we get we get. Our bunkers, and we end up just just heaving insults. Waiting for someone to wave the white flag and say, okay, fine. You're right. So number one stop the game number to claim your own moves together come up with a short summary of your moves. She gives the example, you lose it. When your spouse pretends, not to be affected when you're when you're when your spouse doesn't say a word, that's when you be lose it or you get louder and you threaten in your spouse sees you as impossible withdraws, you get a motion, you have an emotional response, and your partner goes with the great here, we go to get emotional again. Those are things I do I hear in sessions and so agent not productive. So claim your own moves summary of your moves number three claim your own feelings talk about your own feelings, rather than focusing on your spouse and blaming everything on her don't go with you always do this to say, I feel I feel hurt. When when I don't feel heard or I feel sad when you turn away from me claim your own feelings and number four own how you shape your partner ceilings recognize how your usual way of dealing with your emotions pulls your spouse off balance and turns on deeper attachment viewers. So how you shape your partner's feelings? And this is one of the hardest parts, but one of the one of the most. This is where some of the real work happens is when somebody says, y'all. Yeah, I I was playing that game. I was withdrawing I was pulling away hoping you would notice and I was getting mad at you for noticing own. How you shape your partner's feelings number five ask about your partners deeper emotions look at the big picture and slow things down a little bit. We really need to start getting curious about your spouse's, Helena, mass and says softer underlying emotions rather than just listening to your own hurts and fears and assuming the worst about your spouse. This is where we're going to get outside of ourselves with the turn toward our partner. And we have to have here comes that, word empathy. We need to try and figure out why why did my partner react the way they did in in care. Not the why did they say that thing to me? But it's what just happened here. I'm going to go all in with empathy. I'm going to seek to understand before. I'm going to be understood I wouldn't know what just happened. Why did my partner to shift? I care about her enough that I wanna know all in. And I'm going to turn off my fixing in judgment brain. I'm going to not try to respond with the well, that's because you I need to hear where she's coming from. I so sharing your own deeper softer, emotions, that's all the voicing your deepest, emotions, especially fears about not being connected or attached. Your spouse may be the most difficult step for you. It is also the most rewarding let your spell see what's really a steak when you argue so back the number five was asked about your partners deeper, emotions, that's that. He told me what's going on. There be curious about your spouse's underlying emotions. But number six is after you have sought to understand now, you can get into that. Hey, let me share what's going on here. I get worried when you when you say those things to me, I fear. I I get afraid of abandonment. I get afraid you're gonna leave me. I get very vulnerable. Let your spell see. What's really in? Helena says what's at stake? When you are you in that a steak, and I just use that AM afraid you're gonna leave me concept's. I'm not trying to say that you know, when we put this out. They're a partner needs to realize that this marriage is hanging by a threat. I'm not I'm not going down that path. But I'm just saying that man every time you do this. I know it may sound crazy. But I go to this place in my head of what if what if I do this too many times, and you wanna leave in oftentimes partner say where why on earth, would you say that? And you know, and is well meeting is that why on earth, would you say that kind of response is we just asked our partner to share their deep softer emotions these raw spots that come from who knows where abandonment issues attachment issues growing up. And all of a sudden, you've got this person that we care and love about that we've been married to for decades at times, and we feel like I am. I mean think about that think of your partner saying to you, and I still worry that if I if I am not doing the right things that you could go. And so even if you're even if you're hearing that if you're the partner hearing that thinking, why would they say that, you know, I kind of say, hey, yeah, why on earth would they say that tell me more, not the I can't believe you send that to me and the number seven here, we go stand together take the above steps in four G renewed in true partnership, you now have common ground, and 'cause you know, along your C each other as enemies, but allies now, this is that partner that you've identified a raw spot owned your own part of that dance you've identify. You're you are trying to understand where your partner's coming from. You are on the same page. You wanna know everything about your partner, and your partner wants to know everything about you. And and in you wanna know how you have negatively effect in a situation. And you're hoping that they're going to do the same. They won't understand how the things that they have done or said or they're the moves. They've made. Have made you feel a certain way. So you can take control of escalating these negative conversations feed the insecurities and now you can face those insecurities together. So I just wanna go over a couple of things really quick. Then again, so how what is a dead giveaway that a raw spot has been hit. I they sudden radical shift in the emotional tone of the conversation, you were joking minute ago, and all of a sudden gone south some of these angry or cold or aloof second your spouse's reaction to a perceived offense seems way out of proportion. And then what are those ways that you start to? Start to adjust or sued or find those raw spots than heal them. With our spouse number one, stop the game. Somebody has to say, we can't take a break, and we pause, and you have to be on the same page and not have the response be Ono. You're not getting out of this easy number to claim your own moves. Come up with a summary of your moves what you did number three claim your own feelings. You know, this is how I feel right now not you did this number four own how you shape your partner's. Feelings recognize how the way that you deal with emotions oftentimes will pull your spouse off balance, and those are coming from these deeper attachment fears that you have number five ask about your partners deeper emotions, tell me more seek first to understand be curious about your spouse's softer underlying emotions number six. Then share share your deeper softer emotions get vulnerable. It's time. I don't care. It's a guy man brain or whatever it's time to kind of open up late your spouse ceelo, but of your heart or a lot of your heart, actually, and the number seven is stand together. Take these take these steps and now recognize it. Wow. That worked I'm aware of my partners raw spot and that comes from somewhere deep. I want to be able to help them with that. I don't want to continue to be a part of the problem. I want to be the solution. Should've warned you about that cliche. But there's a there's a little bit of a. Primer on Ross, I hope that you can pull something from this. That will help you in your relationship in your marriages. And and I feel like this is just one of those huge steps being able to recognize and identify our own Ross spots where they come from what our partner is possibly doing that that rubs one of these raw spots, and then having these tools to be able to communicate with your partner and not in a way that says you better not ever do that again. It's more of a, hey, here's what's going on for me. So, hey, thank you for taking the time to listen. And if you liked anything about this episode feel free to share it with anybody that you think they could benefit from trying to figure out what those raw spots. This is one of those fundamental principles of emotionally focused therapy. That is going to help you communicate better. And know that you can secure that connection that your spouse is going to be there for you. I promise you that that there there is hope for relationships where there is there's some some really kind of dysfunctional communication patterns. And I promise you the emotionally focused. The therapy is something that can really help address those core issues and help a couple become more securely attached all right until next time on the ritual. Flying. The daily grind. Placed. Stoneman? They push side things. Exciting discount.

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Shamini Jain, PhD Pt1 -- Consciousness and Healing

The Radiant Health Show

24:34 min | 2 years ago

Shamini Jain, PhD Pt1 -- Consciousness and Healing

"Taste this. Sydney. Live back to heart but delivers the. Welcome to the radiant health show was Dr Christine Horner your source of information that will help you to achieve extrordinary health and longevity where each week we bring you a fascinating interview with the leader in natural health from practitioners and ancient systems of medicine, such as traditional Chinese medicine and your data to experts and the latest frontiers of complementary alternative medicine Uley entertained mesmerized by my guess we'll learn many tips on how you can reach a joy, an extraordinary feat of health simply and naturally. I'm your host, Dr. Christine Horner former surgeon, and now an expert in actual health and the author of two award winning books. I is waking warrior goddess, Dr. Christine Horner's program to protect against and fight breast cancer. And my most recent book is radiant health. Each Lewis beauty, a thirty day program for extrordinary health, beauty and longevity. I guess today is Dr Shami Jan and. And she's a very interesting woman that I'm thrilled to have on my show today. She's got a undergrad degree in your science and behavior from Columbia University, and she has her PHD degree in a doctoral program clinical psychology what she sees here in San Diego and she's been working on really an amazing. Interesting topics, I think as far as looking at how science and consciousness spiritual really join, and I'm instead of going into more detailed stuff talking about her. I want to talk about herself can get more of a sense Dr tan, thank you so much for being on my show. Thank you so much for having me. So I'm just curious about. I mean, I just let to hear about your your jury about how you got interested in this area and just kind of, you know what you're up to today. If you can just kind of take us through that, I would appreciate that. Sure be happy to well, Christina, born here in the south United States surrounded by my Baptist Christian friends and growing up in east Indian culture. I grew up in the, you can say, spiritual philosophy as Janez them. And if most of your listeners haven't heard of Jannes and it wouldn't be surprising because it's a very small religious or spiritual tradition that originates from India. Its basic tenant is non violence which we call. So you know, I was always really fascinated at the outset of what I was learning at home and what I was learning at school and what I was learning from my friends and I became determined to start making rinks, I think at an early age. So you know, at an early age, I was reading books that were describing subtle energy concepts and meditation, and yoga, and making all these claims on. You know why yoga and meditation, for example, would affect health and they would discuss. Things like the betting nervous system para sympathetic nervous system. So you know, at age eight, I didn't really have much background in those areas. I learned about later in school, but you know, I became really fascinated with this and I thought, what is this about these or spiritual practices? And they're saying they have this effect on physical health. How do we know that? I mean, is that really true? And that really set me on a pass to study what we knew from the western model about health and medicine. And so I did my undergraduate degree Columbia in science and behavior, and then extended out to a research field called psycho neuro pathology, which is the basis of my PHD work, which was done at UC San Diego as you mentioned. And I think at an early age, I just always had these questions about whether spirituality and science were really indeed separate entities. The way they've been kind of kept here in the west, I would say, or whether there was some interesting and important intersection between our practice and our health and well-being. So that really. Started my process really trying to dig into it from the scientific perspective and bridge concepts and understandings between those two worlds. And as I began to do that in my own work, and you know, published randomized controlled trials on things like energy healing and their effects on cancer survivors and things like that. I also became aware of many other scientists that were tenured professors that major universities what were conducting similar research. And so you know, Christine, you're, you know, you're an MD. I don't have to tell you that a lot of this work is can still considered controversial by mainstream science and health and not surprisingly getting funding for some of this cutting edge research in consciousness in healing is not always easy either. So I began to get to nobody's really extrordinary scientists and healers of that was really engaged in committed to exploring this frontier areas medicine. And yet, you know, didn't always get funding support had trouble sometimes publishing their papers and. I began to realize that part of what we needed was to be able to come together and support each other into create an organization that would help foster this on a larger level. So we founded the consciousness and healing initiative, which is a nonprofit collaborative accelerator that brings together scientists from many different disciplines, including physics, biophysics medicine, psychopharmacology NRA science, and bring them to where they can actually have meaningful dialogue and discussions and explore ration- with healers. And when I say healers, I mean healers like medical intuitive, energy, healers of contemporary of meditation practitioners, spiritual practitioners of many sorts to begin to open the dialogue around these types of understandings and explore how do we really launch into them scientifically. And so that's really the work that the consciousness and healing initiative has been doing for the past couple of years. Do you do like conferences we get people together or you're doing? Absolutely, apparently. Okay. And then you're kind of determining what the best topics for for research is. Exactly, you know. So some of our scientists already engaged in research and our goal is to help support them either by helping catalyze funding for them pointing people in the direction of the work that they're doing, creating research teams of researchers that might be different universities, so they can all study the same thing because you know, obviously if you have three different labs studying the same phenomena in just becomes that much more believable, a robust if they're all finding the same thing. So we we health scientists in that way, but we also think it's really important to share what we know with the general public because you know things that are even considered that controversial anymore, like with CBO are still not really greatly understood by the public. You know, there's a lot of questions about placebo means and what do you have to be duped on it? You know, I talked about that subject to, no, there's often, but -absolutely the consciousness and healing initiative is committed to providing educational materials and laze for. All of our community to learn more about all of these different areas of healing. So we have had public summits in the past. We had one in San Diego and twenty sixteen called the healing revolution from science to social impact where we had scientists clinicians, social entrepreneurs, technologists all talking about the ways that they're scaling healing in their own work bills. Videos are actually freely available now on our website and include luminaries that you probably know like the Chokwe and Larry dossey and others that are part of our collaborative. But we also hold currently monthly webinars on the science and practice of healing. The next one is actually coming up this coming Friday, October six. I'm not sure when your show is airing, but these are available to afterwards. And the next one is actually on transforming trauma with Dr Juliane who is just a fantastic clinician, who has been doing amazing work in resolving trauma and different kinds of patient populations for years. So we're webinars away. For our community to kind of get to know the experts and a particular area and interact with them. Live ask questions and and learn more. So we do provide those. We'll also be having another public conference with our partner, the institute of nomadic sciences that's going to be July eighteenth twenty nineteen. So this upcoming July next year and it'll be in Silicon Valley, they'll be in the Silicon Valley area, and that will be Dame on deep dive into the science and practice of healing. So we're really excited about that as well. So what's your website where the people can watch the the webinars. Absolutely. So if folks want to go to our website, it's WWW dot c. h. i. or Chee for consciousness and healing initiative dot is. So that's WWW dot c. h. I dot IS and that's that's our nonprofits website. I also have my own website which is just my first and last name dot com. So WWW Shamanee John dot com. That's like difficult to sell, but hopefully they'll be a link on your website. And then this these are free, right? The the webinars are free? Yeah, the the, the webinars are free when they're live. Absolutely. And then if people want to join our our community for a nominal fee of five dollars a month or sixty bucks a year, they get access to all the replays of the webinars, including audio downloads and slide sets which off in our community really liked because then they can take the data and share it with their colleagues which is helping. So we offer those differ contributors also monthly meditations as well and conference discounts and things like that. So but the live webinars are completely free. If you wanna just log in and check it out, you can do. So through our website, it's really easy. Just click and register, and we'll send you a calendar invite to remind you of the time. Okay, found great. So I'm curious, do you have a background Veda or was that a part of, you know when you were growing up. Yeah, I would say informally. I haven't done formal training and survey though, but obviously growing up in the culture and understanding a bit of it. I've done my own. You know, I've done my own reading into it, but I don't have a certification or anything like that. However, you know, being a psychologist have done a fair amount of study in two different though Shas and how they relate to mental emotional states in particular because that's been a big interest of mine. So I've taught folks on that. You know, in the past, it's kind of like understanding your constitutional type helps you embrace who you are vibrational, right? Because all this is all by British in. So it helps you understand who you are, vibration, embrace those parts of you instead of trying to get away from them or being something else, but then also understand where you're growing edges are and how you can balance those out. You know on the mental physical levels and emotional levels and not not just simply by the food you eat, but you know, by the entire environment that you bet you keep. Right? Yeah. So I have my background. I'm transcendental meditation like twenty five years ago and then experienced punch karma in Fairfield, Iowa and and completely blown away, you know, by the results of it. And so then I got real interesting irate and got trained in harsh aggravates and got, you know, kind of initial certification in that one. But one of the things that I have found so fascinating is like, so here you have a system of medicine. That's five thousand years old, and you know, very much used subtle energy into me. It's kind of based in quantum physics versus western medicine. We think of Newtonian physics, but there's a lot of research, you know that I found when I, you know, looked at it and use it as a foundation of my books and everything, but looking at these techniques that are used and aggravated five thousand years ago and what I. Found as far as the research is that it shows that all of these things not only do exactly what they they. They were intended to do, but it seems like they're way more powerful you know than we ever anticipated. So you are motivation. As far as the research is concerned is, do you feel like there's not enough research where the research I mean, it's interesting that you say there's a lot of research because if I looked to the few review literature, for example, on I Vic approaches is really not that much that's out there in the peer reviewed published scientific literature on the approaches of survey data. What's known about the linkages between I rated for example, insistence, biology gene expression? How doesn't irony constitution drive of treatment and diagnosis in, you know, in the the major medical disorders that are plaguing our planet today, like cardiovascular disease diabetes, and whenever there's Har. Early anything. Actually, that's out there. There's really hardly any research that's out there. That's looking at how looking at this as a clinical intervention in large numbers of people, right? The way we run clinical trials for drugs and things like that. Here you'll see lots of trials for different kinds of drugs and their effects for diabetes and things like that. But then if you compare that literature with literature that's out there for your, you know, whole systems treatment you'd say, meaning the entire way that you would treat a person survey versus just isolating some chemical from one of their herbs, there's really not much at all of its, it's actually quite shocking. Why think it depends on what area you know you choose to, for instance, you know, transcendental meditation, there's somewhere between five and six hundred studies on that. And you know, looking at like, yeah, washer, Chaiwan process. You know, there's dozens of dozens of one side just depends on what your topic is, but he's right. It's like super diverse and we and and he knows. Yeah, the PM people are just amazing. Some of the research that they've actually we we have. We have definitely been inspired by a lot of the collective consciousness research that the TM folks have done for so many decades and are interested in really expanding that research to better understand, you know. So for those of your listeners that may not be smiliar with TM this transcendental meditation technique, some of the research by the group that really fascinates me is the research they did with the Maharishi effect, which I'm assuming you probably know about Christine. Now. So you know, they found that when a certain number of meditators get together and they would have hundreds if not thousands of these TM meditators who are very skilled and meditation getting together, and they would collectively meditate together for a shared intention. Often sometimes not necessarily shared intention just meditating together. They would find these incredible relationships between the time that they were meditating and drops in in social outcomes, like crime rates of for example, or you know, even merger rates and so that work is never leave in roughly kated outside of TM. And it's it's really fascinating somewhat robust, and it raises lots of questions about the power of our collective consciousness to help solve some of the societal ills that we see today. So this is actually one of the projects that the consciousness and healing initiative is actively engaged in. Now we call it the power of me, and we're really trying to explore on a deeper. Level, you know what happens when we come together in collective meditation and prayer? What happened to us? You know, on the individual level, of course, we've seen that. Like as you said, there's been watts of studies that have been done in meditation in general, and most of them have focused in the west on what happens to my brain. What happens to my stress reduction, what happens to my body and a lot of feel like it's time to take that research in expanded so that it's it's kind of more resonant with a lot of the purpose of the practice which is to bring peace and wellbeing, not only to ourselves but to others. So we're starting to explore in the power of weei research program. When we come together and meditation, do we actually synchronized together? Do our energy fields synchronize together in the way of looking at EEG synchrony or electro encephalogram synchrony or heart rate synchrony does the energy in the room change? Are there other factors that change when we come together and collective meditation, prayer? And can we understand how those change. Might lead to changes in social outcomes, like decrease crime rates decreased violence of. So we're really excited about that and totally inspired by that initial work that was done by the team folks. You know, really, really incredible start to this type of research. So then just kind of explain a little bit more details as far as with your organization. As you said you have a project, the power of weei and you're, you were describing that you would. I mean as far as the questions are concerned, I mean, you'd have people that are together meditating or in group prayer, and then you're going to be doing recordings as far as KT's and EG's. And so it's like a steady that's Assulin now. To start it already. Exactly. So we have explored, you know, institutional review board approval for the study, which as you know, is kind of the first thing you need to do to kind of legitimize it and be able to publish the data in a scientific journal which we plan to do. And yeah, our scientists are actively tinkering away right now. There's not to get too boring, but you know, there's all this back end stuff that you have to do to make sure that the headsets synchronized. So muse. I don't know if your folks have heard of music, but they're wonderful company that developed a portable way of collecting EEG and they actually provide feedback to for people so they can help them get into deeper meditative states, but they were nice enough to donate some headsets to us for research and we got some funding from, right. I think Dacian rob Melanie, Welton foundation. We're actually traveling to Indiana couple of weeks, and we're going to explore this group meditation, you know, in in meditation and there shoul gathering context within India. But then we hope to, of course, expand that to over here in the United States and work with. Any groups where we just simply sit together initially in small groups and do meditation practice get processed together and explore whether our brain waves actually synchronize do our heart rates actually synchronize and there's room capacities change. So these are all measures that were actively taking, you know, of course, comparing them to baseline conditions and things like that does our wellbeing shift. So that's the initial start of this. And then you know, of course, as we build and grow and make sure that we've developed good classrooms for data collection, our plan is really to do this on a much larger level because as you know, there's so many folks that are feeling called to meditate together and you know, we don't feel that call for no reason. And the question is how much power do we have with me actually get together and do those things. And so that's that's what we're really hoping to uncover with. Some of the research is really precisely how, how much can we how much can we expand our power together as a collective? When we do these kinds of practices. So how do you get funding for these seems to me like it would be a little bit more challenging. Those just say, like the drug companies. Thrill. I appreciate you asking this question. It is challenging and you know, for better or worse. This is actually why we started the initiative because the truth of the matter is until we have a good, you know, solid base. We can just start to explore with these larger funding agencies like the national institutes of health and department of defense. You know that these kinds of frontier areas that go beyond the materialist paradigm that is that you know, this type of research really begs the question of whether we're more than our physical bodies. You know where spirit has been kind of taboo topic and science for so long. You know, we're starting to kind of turn that on its head and say, is there much more here to sport than we have, you know, really thought of before and as a way to actually study this robustly scientifically. So you know, ultimately, we hope that those larger funding agencies like the national institutes of health. We'll come to the table and say, you know, this. Is so important in it's so meaningful. We need to fund us on a larger level until that time we really rely on the people that do get it. The people that have experienced this, the people that have seen the studies that are out there. And you know in say, this is really promising and really important research, and I want to support it. And really, that's that's how we sent surviving. And that's how research has been being funded by frontier of people who have this experience. You understand it and that's, you know, grassroots level funding, or you know, people feel called and it may just donate what they can to larger foundations who have more resources that you know feel that the research and education is important here. Wow, that sounds difficult. Because recent expensive to do. So, yeah, we have about of maybe three minutes you know left. And so I thought we could do is just you can, you know, gives your contact information and websites and and that kind of thing. And then I wanna pick up, you know, from here for next week because they wanna kinda get more in in depth about some of the other projects. You know that you're doing and and so forth. So once you go ahead and give your what sites and contact information. You bet. So people can contact me and find me a doctor Shamanee John on Facebook. If you Google Dr, Shamanee January, find it or just type in Dr Shaw, John. I'm also an Instagram these days and Twitter. You can find me there. You can also find me on my website WWW Shami Jan dot com. WWW Shamanee, Jen dot com and much easier to remember is our consciousness and healing initiative website which is simply WWW dot c. h. I dot IS so that c. h. HI dot IS and Chee or the consciousness and healing initiative is also on Facebook and Instagram. And so you can find there by just typing in safe dot com forward slash consciousness and healing, and you'll find us on Facebook. We have a pretty active Facebook community there. Thank you. Thanks and I'm looking forward to our to talking to you again next week. Thanks. Thanks for joining me on the radio health show with Dr Christine Horner. I'm your host, Dr. Christine. Horner good health can be yours simply and naturally download my radio show this weekend every week and all the advice of my expert guests. And soon you'll the experiencing Rabia tells in Asia beauty, no matter what your age don't forget to check out my website, Dr Christine, Horner dot com. And be sure to sign up for my free newsletter. Give me like on Facebook and follow me on Twitter so that you can keep posted on all my comings and goings and latest tips and tricks for extrordinary health. My theme song is beauty surrounds by Jenny birds available at Jenny Berg dot com. That's j. e. n. y. b. i. r. d. dot com.

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Podcast #281 - Juliencast 2: Dink Tank

Jenna & Julien Podcast

43:53 min | 10 months ago

Podcast #281 - Juliencast 2: Dink Tank

"Think. Think think hello welcome back. Welcome back to the PODCASTS. I'm here again amid. The week. PROCAM everybody. I hope if you're here in slash being. Having a great. Wonderful Monday! I hope you're healthy and well and maybe have a pet. To just like hold and pet furlough. Like no specific reason that's just kind of always a good thing to have happened. I have with me. My assistant today missiles. Back on his floating Orange Cloud. How you doing bud? Requested. Guests. That I have on this show, so. Welcome guy. How you doing! What you've been up to working on any big projects. Okay just sniffing around. That's fine, you know. Can All do everything? Anyway I'm super psyched to be back for another episode. Of The podcast Julian cast and I thought about doing a lot of different things actually I was overwhelmed to be honest, which is good? I was. Know I was rich with ideas from you guys flooding the comments and our discord. After last week. When I was basically like Hey, helped me with some ideas and you guys. Were you came through big time? So there's a lot of different. Cool ideas to sift through, and we landed on a really fun one today so I'm excited to do it. I, though this episode is brought to you by squarespace. Guys. If you're thinking about building a website, do squarespace they make the process of building website just so incredibly easy streamlined and they give you all the tools to really build the website of your dreams, and it really is a lot easier with squarespace than you might ever think. Building a website would be so right now go to squarespace DOT COM for a free trial, and when ready to launch go to squarespace dot com slash genitalium. Save ten percent off your purchase are your first purchase of a website or domain more on that later? squarespace's awesome. Also guys stitch fix. is another sponsor today online personal styling service that Taylor's. Style and clothing to you and your style and fit, and they send it to you in a box. You get an online stylus, okay? How fancy is that right now? Head over to stitch fix STI. Dot Com slash, Jenner Jillian and You get an extra twenty five percents off when you keep everything in your box, also the links are down below for sponsors more again on those later. Anyway. So. I. First of all. I'm excited because we have I have some good. I think I have some good content today all right I think I have some truly good content and the what gives me comfort and saying. I have good content is the fact that it's not my content, so I know it's gotta be at least pretty good right because it's not my, it's mine. It's mediocre I'm used to that. You're used to that. We all know. You. Guys are pitching in this week all right. You know. We all got chores to do. K., so this is our household this podcast and you know you guys. This week you stepped up and you did. A bunch of Jersey took the trash out the dishes. UNLOADED THE DISHWASHER! Modal on! I, don't know. You helped out, so thank you on twitter. We posted something along the lines of Hey, we're doing a shark tank podcast, but we want you guys to be pitching Julian me your ideas. Since I'm doing this Solo I felt like that would be a cool Actually someone in the discord suggested it so I don't have their name in front of me, but if you thank you so much for that idea, really awesome idea to be honest and I'm sorry to do it so basically the way it's going to work is pretty Dang similar to how it win the past except I'm the shark and so as marble. He is my honorary shark. You know when they have like the special guest. The special entrepreneur. Made billionaire rich guy who's just like. Hey, like I started this company and I best in this company and now I'm going to be on shark tank. Look at me. Everybody I got a suit. That's marbles. So. In front of me. I have ten different pitches from you. Guys pitching me. Your starting conventions actually I don't know if we should we should. Dink tank. We're going to call Ding tink. Your your ideas and businesses for a dunk tank What I was saying earlier though I don't know how many fucking episodes we've done. Billion episodes feels like at least spanned many many years doing episodes. and slowly you. If you were here from the beginning, you know that we were on a little, usb Mike's on a laptop and we have graduated to an entire room with an professional preempt, and like we sound pretty good i. think and you know, but we still you know in even most recent podcasts if we wanNA, play you. Some media were like holding our phones up. Being like okay. Listen to this video. It's really cool. I finally, hopefully, fingers crossed figured out. Not that it was even that heart just took, some effort figured out a way to place a media on on our preempted inhabit play through. The channels that you're listening to you're you're not listening to me holding up my phone through speaker that was long winded, but TLD arts going to hopefully sound better and also we'll have the videos playing behind me because in in the post for Ding tank. We ask that you guys record video of your pitch and I said you know it'd be fun to watch you guys pitch me your ideas so That's what's GonNa. Happen All right I'M GONNA. Sit back here. With. My fellow shark and we're GONNA. We're just GonNa Watch your pitches. Okay, so we have ten pitches I. Think they're going to be under two minutes. if you. First of all. We got a ton of them. Okay, so we'll probably if this goes well, probably do more. Down the line think tank episodes I like Colin tank. so if you were one of the people who submitted and you didn't get in. Just know that we have logged these emails that you sent us and they might make an future episodes because we definitely got a lot We got ten here today, so let's get started. K.! Let's jump into the shark tank. The Ding tank. and. And watch some pitches. Oh boy. I one is going to be a doozy. Already know it. All right here we go. Welcome the dink tank. Hello Sharks, my name is Jake. Bubble, stark and today I'll be asking you for two hundred eighty thousand dollars plus ten gram because I rolled my car in exchange for twenty percent equity, and the chance to work with me and I'll be pitching youth the opportunity of a lifetime. Gains were each shit every round letting your teammates down on everyone's a pro player, but with Pot Champ the scented candle t impending you'll heightened. You're gaining skills confirming you to be a faster stronger and better gamer one lit, and you're winning roughly a hundred and seventeen dollars, but trust me. It's worth it. Wow. Order now champ. Okay. Well thank you Mr Jake for being our first contestant in the tank today. What an invention what a niche invention that is! It's appropriate that I'm wearing my twit shirt, so it's a candle that apparently when you light, it enhances your gaming abilities. I have so many questions. What's The science behind this? I wish I could ask you these questions. What's the science behind this jake? Does use light account on one time, and then you were owning and the net then you decided. I mean it looks pretty great. I bet it smells good, too. Although! I will say a lot of people who game on a PC right? It gets kind of hot in that Room Candle Mike even more hot. It's a fire hazard. ooh! What was the? Was the asking price. Let's start over again one sick. Hello, sharks, my name is Jake, bubble stark and today I'll be asking you for two hundred eighty thousand dollars plus ten gram because I my car in exchange for twenty percent equity. You rolled your car. How did you get here? Oh, no. All right, so that's. To what he's eight to twenty plus ten, two, hundred, thirty, two thousand ten percent. Kind of likely going here and also I. You know what I appreciate about this pitch. Is that og? That face on the candle. That's a that's an email on twitter. Globally Moon on twitch, meaning that twitch owns the right to it. And, you definitely don't Jay, which I you know I liked that. I appreciate that Gusto just going out and grabbing something. That's not yours and repackaging it. That's my style right there. You gotTA deal. I'm in. pod Champ Candle. Let's let's go. Let's make. Let's make some fucking money baby. Right that was. What is what is in your background? Okay moving on. Thank you jake. Here we go. Hello Shark Juliane of the JJ podcast. My name is ray first time caller longtime listener. However I'm sure I'm not the only one who has trouble focusing on one thing at a time when there's so many things that I could be paying attention to it. Just kinda gets it hard to focus on certain things. Brain gauge is basically inexperienced maker for your little brain. It's slow almost me. say. Right there you could simultaneously experience watching. The movie stuck on you. Same time listening to music out same time watching videos, but you can do all of that wall streaming minecraft on twitch. Burn the testing phase right now on. It's going pretty good except like thirty to forty five percent of. Participants are experiencing minor side effects. Mouth frequent nose bleeds muscle spasms, mood swings. I don't to talk about that stuff, but I mean like other than that. They're consuming a lot more media than the normal person, and if you can invest like I don't know like a million or something. We can get the ballroom millions we can see where it goes. I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks piece. A million listen I. Don't know who you think you're talking to. Maybe marbles has a million throwing around here brain gauge. High let me tell first of all. Let me tell you what I liked about this pitch. K! Then I'll tell you what I didn't like. I'll tell you what I like. I I liked that you just went ahead and played out the scenario for me where you're implanting a an electronic device into my brain. I appreciate that and think that's very. That's why. There are very few downfalls to that. I think not enough. People are inventing things that go inside your brain so. Props you know what I mean, props. I liked that I liked that you animated. Your pitch I thought that was very creative here, very talented animator and you drew me. I mean Brownie points. If you want me to invest, and you include me in your pitch, you know. Well done now I want to invest. I. Don't like bloody noses cotton mouth. Those are some of the side effects that you listed. I'm nervous about getting them. I don't know that that would be fun for me to get those side effects. What do you think marble marble? Do. You want some side effects Do you want. You want some side effects. Do you. I don't think we can handle these side effects. I WANNA know. I'm just going to have to answer this myself because you're not here live, but. You're still in the testing phase. There's a little bit of risk to that. You're involved in something that go it's. It's like it's biotech goes into your biology, but it's tech. It's similar to that one. Episode of Shark Tank like way back in like season one or two or that guy like when it first started like ten years ago, this guy's like trying to market this Bluetooth. It's basically one of the Bluetooth speakers for your ear, and it goes like implant surgically implanted in your neck, or whatever, and then it just stays there. And then we changed the battery every ten years. Whatever the fuck and everyone's like your fucking mental and get out of here like that's nuts. You're crazy and the guy actually was pretty terrifying. Because there was an, he wasn't even laughing, he was like no this. I WANNA BE I. WanNa be surgically implanting something into people's. Bodies and th- I mean imagine having done that and then ten years later. You're the stupid ten-year-old Bluetooth device in my neck I can't get it out. Someone's probably monitoring me. So it gives me those kind of a little bit. Yes for a million. Say. We think a million's a pretty good deal, right? I mean think about it. We're on the ground floor here. The barely in the testing phase. This thing could blow up all right. You're in brain gauge we're in. You got our money. Don't blow it. Great Pitch. All right. Moving on to the next one. Starts like shirt. Have you ever travel and forgotten you toothbrush? I have. Actually haven't I don't even own a toothbrush as Those problems are no longer. I give to you. The teeth brush. Yes, the teeth brush. The plural. Of Tooth, With brush. Now you may be thinking. Isn't that just a toothbrush? No. No No. It's not because it is a communal toothbrush. Okay, everybody can use this toothbrush or can't. Jenny's public restroom as disgusting is right on the counter. You go to your. Public Park restroom. It's right in there. Absolutely red, said okay. You go to your. Fraternity. Bathroom. Absolute mess under the three Red Solo Cups and wound up ball of. Light. Here is the communal toothbrush. Everybody can use this toothbrush. Everyday. Anybody. Anybody can uses astute others. You, okay. Okay. Kids are starving. I lost my job. I can say. Okay I hear you okay well. First of all great pitch I love it. Thank you for explaining to me and all these different scenarios where you can use the teeth brush. So Am I buying that one is a company. Am I investing in your company? I don't know the deal here. I do like the idea that we're cutting down on waste. Okay, I will say that. If! You put one teeth brush. In say the lobby bathroom of an apartment building and it's it's for everyone. Think of how few! There are so many teeth. Teeth are going to be brushed with so many less previous toothbrushes, and now with one single teeth brush like you're eliminating waste. If ten people use the teeth, brush your eliminating nine single toothbrushes that would have eventually just been thrown in the trash and. Been added to the waste. So I like. I'm concerned. There are some medical concerns here. Some hygiene concerns here, if someone disgusting and sick used the teeth brush before me and left it there, and then I walked in and use it. Wouldn't that pose? A threat to me. You know what? It is a concern of mine, so here's what I'm GonNa do I'm GonNa. Give you a counter offer. Okay. I will invest in your teeth brush company. But for every teeth brush we sell. I want. A dollar, okay, this is a royalty deal. Okay, and then also, in addition to that I, want the shirt that you're wearing. Please I would like it. I would like you to mail it to me because I would like to wear it. I enjoy the shirt that you're wearing and I would like to enjoy it on my body now. but props for coming up with teeth brushed. You know this is another one of these inventions that it stems from something that we all know and it just you re. Wrap it a little bit and I. I liked that. I like that I. Like a little bit. Re wrapping here. So thank you I don't know if I. Cut your name Oh. Thank you. Help your kids are okay. Well. Moving on. Next Pitch. What we got here. Hello Sharks, my name is dean. And I have the product for you I bet you like coffee. No I I! Don't but I bet you do and I bet you all select jacuzzis and drinking your own bathwater. Yourself. I wish I could combine all three of my favorite things well. Dream no more with the coffee cousy. That's right. Our scientists have found a way to get coffee. Scientists drink your own filth water beads. Are Scientists have developed a drawer nice. Pour your favorite coffee grounds. Okay, you shut it and you press a button. Send scalding, hot coffee out. We tested it on ten people, and only eight of them screamed, so it's not that hot. It's only about okay. Thirty degrees fair. But, have you ever sat there and thought? I could deal with a bird. Have thought that exact. Yes. This is your opportunity at only six payments of five hundred and sixty five dollars. We can make your dream a reality. I'm asking for forty five thousand dollars. Okay, in exchange for. Point. One percent of the company, but you can also have. A coffee. I can have my own one. Wow Dean I'll listen. I'm excited about this offer. Don't pay attention to any of these other sharks. I want you to look at me. Okay. I like your salesmanship I. Like the idea that you've come up with her so many things that. I enjoy coffee I enjoy cousy. I also you know you said out of the ten people that you tested this on screamed. Those might have been happy screams. People screaming. They're happy. Okay? Ice Cream sometimes when I'm happy. We all scream. For Ice Cream and So, yes, some of them could have been really burned and potentially like permanently. Injured from this experiment, but you do have scientists, so you have your. You clearly are responsible adult. And, you're covering your ass here. I've always wanted to become a cup of coffee and I think this is now the opportunity to do that. I will say equity is a below. Point one percent for a lot of money. But I. do get my own coffee cousy. Here's okay. What do you think Mama you want to join in on? You want to go in on this one together. You can come into the coffee cousy with me. What if we get caffeine poisoning through? The are like what if we absorb too much caffeine through our? Skin and di-. Did you scientists check that we'll. We'll talk about that later I'm in Marla UN. We gotTA deal. All, right? We gotTA deal Dean. Thank you my guy great pitch. A lot great pitch. Right Coffee cousy what? You don't like that probably GonNa go to the coffee cousy. Listen, we can. We can hop in I. got a coffee cousy being delivered today. Okay, because we said yes, so we can hop in the coffee cousy later. We'll talk about the details of of the situation right you'll get. You'll get some time in it all right. You'll get part of the the equity to. We'll share it. Right. Good job. Next Pitch. We got vertical video. Toilet. Buddy a net a circular net that you put in your toilet to catch your change in your wallet from filing into the toilet. Formerly known! As Toilet Guard. Willett sponge. Haul it out sponge more absorbent. Softer than toilet paper. They're not easy. Everybody has to go to the bathroom. Can thank you. What a great pitch! Honestly you seem like you're in a hurry i. hope you got to where you're wherever you had to go on time because you. Literally ran into frame and RADHA BREATH I feel like I've heard that before. Marble. Have you heard that before like that exact same pitch? Maybe on a TV show. In an office somewhere I don't. Know you haven't all right, maybe it wasn't. Maybe it's just Vu. Honestly. I like it. I like toilet ideas so. Toilet Toilet Guard toilet, buddy, you know it catches your loose change your items that follow your pocket because there's a net that goes underneath your, but when you go into the. Problem with this I. See literally no problem with this and I would totally invest in it although I. Don't know how much money you need. I also don't know your name and I. Would I don't I want one of the products? So here's what we'll do. Okay this stipulation all right if you can get me a prototype in the next five minutes actually the next twenty minutes because once. We're done with this podcast I'll go test it out. And if I I'll I'll give it a little test run and if we like what we see here. You got my money all right. You got my money as long as this is your idea and it wasn't stolen directly from a television show, but I doubt that that's the case. So. Yes well done great pitch. Yeah I liked it. I liked it I liked it a lot. ooh, see gaming chair. Hello Sharks, are you? Around doing nothing introducing getaway castaways heavy duty, drone type aircraft that can lift cat up to speeds of one thousand miles per hour. Hundreds of micro fans built into the vice lives it up with these two star. Just set your cat under the vice. Press the start button here and watch academy flyway like a bird. Oh, my God that cats fly and reach heights up to twenty thousand feet. AGGIES can also be used, but if he's name is peach, it won't work. She's too fat. So who's ready to? Categories not responsible for damage death. If damaged deficit occurred, suck it up. Okay you. Do you through your xbox like five times for this pitch? Men, ten head pitch, the showmanship is absolutely through the roof here literally and figuratively. Okay this xbox went flying like three different times in that pitch so. You got my attention there Man I would love to see pets. Be Able to take little Rides in their aircraft's. If they need to go surveilled things. Marbles listen you know how you bark and stuff when you go out front and go back and you hear things and cars and people and noises, and you bark them. Imagine how much more fun you'd have barking if you were up in the Air Oh, sorry! You've been up the year before. Okay, you can go up there and your own drone now. What do you think that? Do you like that idea. Yes Peach would first of all peach would be able to get on that thing, but she wouldn't use it to survey all or to escape. She would use it to find food, because although she's not overweight anymore she would love to be. So As IGGY. Friendly and marbles can get on it to listen I'm all ears right? You Send me prototype. And And we got. We got a deal here all right. I! I don't know how much you asked for I? Don't know if you actually ask for any money. But presentation was so good i. don't even care. You can have my money. My models. 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When you keep everything in your box, check it out or hit the link down below. Good stuff stitch fix all right. We got a few more pitches here. I'm completely out of money but I. Really just want to keep investing because you guys are really blown me away with these pitchers. All right here we go another vertical one. Shark thank you so much for meeting with me. My name is Kyle from Massachusetts and I am here to unveil my latest new revolutionary. Designed to help kids learn the alphabet using one of the biggest names of all time introducing do it with the alphabet. Yes doing it with the alphabet is a set of flash cards designed to help kids. Learn the alphabet using one of the best means in modern day history the doing it to A. During his two. CARDS INCLUDE DOING IT TO A. Doing it to be. Doing A to see. If you fast forward a little bit, we'll get such cards as Doing it to K.. Doing it to L.. And most importantly doing it to him. Now if you're wondering about. No need to worry, we have tended to the said on a number of baby and it has shown in. Number, baby So if you're all interested in investing, all we're asking is. Just a meal, just a little bit of food for us over here because we are starving, and yes, we will get to work on setting out doing with the alphabet to single child in the entire world, so make sure you invest right now. We a deal friend deal. Shake my hand. Ken from Massachusetts I think your name is Ken Wow. What a pitch! Man. I'm so excited about this idea and I love that. You I think I think you said you tested on baby. Or infant or something and I find that to be so smart. Okay, this is a learning tool. This is a game and a device that's meant. To, help, people At a very young age as a developmental. Tool to help them learn the alphabet such an important thing to know and to do it with fun. And memes. Also man doing it to 'em line that just that sells the whole product, so you tell me what food you guys are hungry for I. Don't Know How many people you have on your team. Hopefully, we can afford to send you. I don't know maybe a little bit of food keeps guys going over there, but if that's all you're asking. You gotta deal right marble doing it to him. Due to a doing it to a fast forward to doing it to 'em. I like it. I also wonder. Like if that is a child's first exposure to the alphabet. How truly how fucked up with a become? That every single time you think of any letter ever again in their life. They're gonNA think of that mean. 'cause I like the Nice Nice as I'm talking about. While done great pitch. Gray pitch tenant. Wow. We go. Hello, Shark Tie France I want to pitch my idea for windshield wipers for your classes and having glasses myself? I've always wanted some way to be able to see when it's raining. Walking on the sidewalk, these could be installed sell separately in the store, or we could partner with manufacturers of glasses and have them as an option like blue light filters and stuff for classes. We purchase them. I'm open to give you one hundred percent of my company. for two billion dollars or a seven percents, seven percent royalty fee for every pair of glasses made. Wow, these demands. And then she was gone that it was a lot of money that you just ask for. I don't have that kind of money and I seven percent royalty. Of every pair I WANNA be in debt for the rest of my life. Although I do like the idea. I like the idea of having electronic little mini wipers on the outside of your glasses to. When when it's raining right, so it brushes away the rain. Here's my counteroffer. Okay, all go into business with you if you. Expand Pass just having the rain wipers. But we also offer inside wipers on the inside of the glasses. For when you really are crying brought. And your projectile tears getting in the way of your vision and clouding up your glasses. Then you will have on the inside. It will detect sadness and tears, and it'll come right. Here will wipe away the tears so I think we should have rain guards and tear guards. Okay, we should offer both both individually. And as a bundle okay. And if you bundle them together and put them on your glasses, only way to pounds per Lenz so it's really. Not Too bad if you think about it. and. At the very least it's a nice little neck workout I. Don't have the kind of money Some billion dollars that Yes for although I mean you sound like you're fun to work with. Maybe you can take. Maybe you could take my idea, okay. To expand the business and let me know your answer if you'd like to. Take this pitch into a different tank. and. We'll make a lot of money all right. I don't know I just like. How do you power them? What's the battery or they solar-powered? What happens if you live in Alaska when there's like a couple of months where you never see the sun? Do we just want to Alaska then maybe. HAVE WE WON'T SHIFT TO ALASKA. Fuck it. We're never shipping to Alaska even in the summer. None No. Alaska can't have this product. Well done, thank you for the pitch and I'm in hundred percent. I'm in. Let's do this. Let's get cracking baby. All right. Next pitch here we go. Hello Shark Hi. Name is Kate Spelled K. E.. G. H. T.. have. You ever taken a bath before. If you have you understand the sorrow that comes when the bathwater becomes cold, young pissing blown, simply plug into the wall socket, and then insert in your back. You'll become toasty immediately. Now critics say resembles a blow dryer and sometimes even a toaster, but no, it's not either of those things. It's blow me okay. By asking price. Anything I have some unrelated lawsuits on related. Don't way, but. Please give me your money. You sound like a straight up person. Okay and I trust you automatically I'm inclined to give you some money I. WanNa. Help you cover those legal fees of whatever you're dealing with. That sounds completely unrelated that you're. Definitely the victim of The products scares me. But I kinda like it. Right, You said it it look. It resembles a blow dryer and toaster oven. You put it in the bath and plug it in. I'M NOT ELECTRICITY NORMA SCIENTISTS. But. I think that's a good idea. Because Trust me I've been in a bath and when that water gets lukewarm and then starts to make its way too cold. You just you not be in there anymore. But twenty minutes ago when you're in there, it was wonderful it was hot. Your muscles were loosening up. You're relaxing and then all the sudden. It's just lukewarm and you just feel like you're. You're just in like nasty. Cold filth water so. Shocked me up right? Shocked me up with this. Maybe we could rebrand the name. Might. The name might cause some problems. But the product seems. Honestly the proxy fine to me. I don't see any issue with it whatsoever. Yeah, no I liked the product. I'm in I'll give you some money a good look in your legal battles with whatever you got going on I. Hope you can get sorted. Really sounds like you did nothing wrong and Thank you for the pitch. Right, thank you for that pitch. All right last pitch of the day all right. Last pitch of the day ending tank. We go. Our idea. Is Really. Jet Packs. wheelies. Press your regular. Roles. What would? Work. You gotta get. You gotta get to. SPATARO ideas. But with jet packs, are you guys get my money as the best pitcher the night? I just love how many times you both said, but with jet packs because literally any pitch, any sentence is. Improved when you add, but with jet packs okay I like how the pitch morphed, too. Because I've identify with that right where you start a pitch as one thing, and then by the end of it, you've kind of pitched a completely different product at the beginning. You were you were marketing? Believe you were saying Healy's with fire. I love it. And then at the end it was rollerskates the jet packs, but with jet packs. And I like all of it. I just like all of it I like the I. Like the Energy I like the pitch and I like when you end a sentence with with jopacks. So whatever money you guys want. You got it okay I'm in. You won me over I also I. Hope Whatever meal you were sitting down for. Here was Yummy i. don't know where. I feel like I could hear other people. Maybe this is just your house, but regardless of you guys had a great evening. Thank you for your pitch, but jet packs. Actually you know what that's. That should be the name of the company, but with jet packs, and then you just sell jet packs for every little thing that you would want to put a jetpack on of all different sizes. But with jet packs, that's the name of the company brilliant I'm in I'm in. I love it. Now I want jet packs on my shoes and my phone and my water bottle and my dogs. Maybe, not my dogs. Well. Thank you for your pitch. Thank you everyone for your pitches today. It was a productive day in tank. I will say. I think we're GONNA. Make a lot of money. But me in you. We went in on pretty much every one of those pitches I know you didn't agree to it, but you know I talk to your accountant and I think we can. We can swing it you and me I think we can swing it. well, anyway. Thank you for hanging out. Hanging on the Ding tank with me. This is a lot of fun. I'm hoping that all of the. Audio of pitches were. Much better to listen to, and it was part of the computer audio, and the routing of my mic, rather than holding up a fricken iphone over my mic, so I hope that worked out better and actually like being able to do this has opened up quite a few possibilities to be honest like we've talked about and when I say we I mean like me and you guys stream also in the discord. There's been a lot of really helpful discussions and comments about what I should do in the podcast, and there's been talks about having you guys on as live guests been talks about having some of my friends on as guests. Both in video form, but audio form, but in general, it's just kind of really cool to be able to. Be Able to record the conversation or recorded video that I'm watching or something like that right? I'll be able to do a lot more with it that way so. I'm glad we did it and I. I'm completely broke now. I've given all my money to you. everyone who entered the Ding tank today, but I really do believe I have a strong feeling that I'm going to make that money back because you guys are smart, and these are great ideas and I. See anything getting in the way of these ideas making all of us very rich. Very, very rich especially, but with jet packs. Anyway thank you guys for listening watching hanging out with me on the podcast today I hope you got some enjoyment out of it. we'll be back next week. MARBLE YOU'RE GONNA be back next week. You GonNa. Join me my guy. He enjoy me. Back next week with another episode, I do encourage you to keep. Hitting me with those ideas in the discord and in the youtube comments here our discord. Is really really awesome? We have kind of a bunch of different sections for a bunch of different things. one of which is the podcast suggestions group see you guys can jump in there and leave your suggestions, but anyway. Thank you so much for joining me I appreciate. All of you and I hope you have a wonderful week I'll see on the next podcast. Piece.

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Leadership Starts with You

Empowered AF

29:53 min | 4 months ago

Leadership Starts with You

"Mark santiago here and welcome to the empowered af podcast where each episode we share powerful strategies. Help you communicate. Act in lead. Like an empowered man. Thanks for joining me awesome. We are live. And i am so excited to talk with you guys today about one of my favorite favorite favorite topics and that is the idea of leadership out those of you who are struggling in marriage or you are in facing separation or divorce. You probably go and we'll leadership. What does that have to do with marriage. I think it has everything to fucking with marriage. Why because as the leader of your house what you deal with and what you allow and what you promote internally externally becomes very Foundation of your marriage in so if your marriage is falling down your marriage is breaking down. We have to look at your leadership. And so i'm excited today because i have. I'm gonna brag. I would say this. Probably about all my clients. But i gonna say one of my favorite clients are andrew. Laurie on with me Andrew went through our program finished Several months ago and is now in the thrive program Working world really closely with me on his own leadership on his own Marriage on his own fatherhood all those areas as we start to thrive once we get past the original part where we're at so andrew. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate it. i can't get back. Yeah i'm excited for it. I know we're at the retreat. You got to lead a group and we started talking about what that would be for you. Because i think that's part of your journey is starting to release your leadership in other areas like you've been successful in business you own. What two three companies tell us a little bit about that real quick. We just kind of have some background on you. Sure so i. Own a national franchise called college. Hawks hauling junkin moving we all three territories in the basically area central pennsylvania. Mix there On top of that. I own a real estate company with a couple of Just as investments for me and some other small saw a coach and strength coach. I've been dabbling on the side. But it's program. I have noticed that. That is what i wanna do and why i bought into the college hoops way which i could get into. More later is juliane coach. And that's the only thing is on the associate director player development for usa hockey in the atlantic district so your jersey delaware pennsylvania. Yeah so you basically to me. I'm not interviewing somebody. I don't know i'm interviewing somebody. I know who say this is not a guy who's sitting around playing video games all day after he comes from nine to five. This is a guy who gets shit done now. You do smoke your cigars you do take that time because as we talk about that all the time like you gotta have me time but you're not just like wasting your life away. Your marriage isn't still where you want it to be but you're not just sitting around complaining about it. You're doing shit about it. So let's start there real quick with just just a primer of leadership within a marriage context and some of the changes you've made there and then we'll start talking about the structure you know like why we need a morning formula and some of those things so tell me a little bit. About what the leadership changes. You've had to make in your marriages. I so what are the big ones For me in leadership was. I was under the assumption. Happy wife. happy life Just i think. Because i saw with my momma saw with others that catering there just be happy. Well as i did that. I realized getting further away from lie was which was creating this person that didn't want to be with an adult fault her for that in any way because i recognize that and as i'm taking the leadership back in who i am what i wanna do. I wanna coach or do these things for me and for our family is obscene. There's now just a structure of alpha in my household rather than. Hey alpa telling me what to do and amusing myself. So you felt like he was the one who was kinda wearing pants even though like at work in business. You're you're the guy and you're kind of pit bull in like we get shit done but when you came home. There was like this lack of leadership. There was this vacuum of leadership. What do you think caused that. What what what was the missing link for you. The missing link for me. It was honestly that happy with copies. Catering do what you want to get. Get it but as i did. That became unemotional. 'cause is mostly like whatever happens. Okay kinda there. That again just came. I was a shell of myself It was only because that. I thought i was doing what would make her happy. Because as a pure people pleaser for the longest time. Because that's what i thought was needed so people pleaser in like just at home or people pleaser in all areas of life so it's dark are leaking into the business started leaking into my coaching world. Janitor eeking everywhere so breathe. So you're telling me. Is that this this idea. Let me back this up. You're married guy successful in business. Crushing it come home every day. Happy wife happy life that idea than becomes a core concept of belief. You start living out not just in your marriage but also then in your business so then you start having issues your business you start having issues of your kids you start having issues everywhere because of this belief happy wife. Happy life that you lose yourself. So what do you do with that. To be honest in the top top mark allott and he beats you up a lot now but In all honesty. I think there was a turning point for me to him before i met you more was mind. Director operation stole money from me. And i started looking at way. Why why that happen. Why did he feel that. It was okay to do that. Why why did. I make that okay for him to do that. Is essentially looked at why was locked in every time he had a contract negotiation caved and also. I put my company in the financial hardship. Because i'm smarter than that but it could have been so much better. And as i start looking at that is what i started searching for a program like this and then on top of that but wife stop also held But that's what i needed was kind of that. Hey it's okay to be yourself It's okay and then now that humpback it's been awesome. Been real awesome so now the year like walking in this like what do you think was one of the bigger changes you made. That led to this place of going. Okay can't do the happy wife. Happy life. I've got to be a leader like what did that look like. Can you give us some definition around it. I'll try but honesty. What i think it was was the fact that me is a happy person in my own way while leading while being empathetic while listening. Perspective has become my biggest thing. I do a lot of research perspective. I've had great bolts that you've given me that coincided with the program that that is open me up to hey just because somebody a different perspective that you in a different one doesn't mean you need to cater to there's I think that fits your your stage. Yeah because we're talking about is boundaries tackle like because we preach preach external boundaries. All the time. What's okay. what's donald k. But i think a lot of times you know especially guys in crisis right they need those extra boundaries too like separate what the fuck is happening. Especially if you're experiencing an affair some crazy shit that we encounter a lot. But when you're not an or or just even in the midst of that not only do you need external boundaries but internal boundaries. So it sounds like you started to develop this course at internal boundaries. Can you talk about that. Yes obviously out having a tough time with external boundaries. When we're going through the program right. I think united back. I think three or four times on that. But it was because i let my internal boundaries. Go on a a big believer in extreme health Works out at least four times a week. Eating certain things. Let go for happiness of others along with. I know what to do financially from a business. I know what needs to get done. But i let my age role self. Let go because. I let everybody else's ideas come in and so you know back in. The gadget called cocky and these things weren't in all honesty. It wasn't cock is what i know. Now i just gotta make sure that i communicated outwards internal boundaries. That's that's something that. I've learned extremely here in the office and with my coaching in all honesty. Is that as you create things. That are not okay to her. You people will come around and take to kind of like the mansur we talk about where what you tolerate. What you promote. And so essentially you came back to this place of saying. Hey this isn't okay anymore. And i can't internally. It's not okay for me to do this. I have to live a certain way to act certain. We have to eat certain foods. I have to workout a certain time. Can you give me a specific example whether it's the workout example or or something just so we can really identify what those internal boundaries. Because i think most guys they if they understand boundaries they look at it from the outside like. Don't do this to hurt me. you can't cheat on me. You can't be in the same bedroom with me for cheating on me. Things like that are easy to identify. Men are not really articulate. Our feelings like we've really struggled with understanding what we feel because the second we start feeling we feel like little boys so in in unite walked through some of those emotions and some of those feelings. Can you give an example of an internal boundary. And how you set it for yourself. Yes a mine is my my schedule. i own my schedule. Idle anybody own. My schedule The way i do that is extremely early. Mark noses on low boxer him four fifteen my time which is to a ed or even one. Am time because i get my workouts it before anybody else's up i am all my workout. Drinking have a little bit of time for twenty minutes and then in the gym for an hour. And that's meantime now. My kids are waking up early in the company. That's cool that's fine. I'm still working out. I'm still getting my brain time. My kids just to see me habitat but that's me. You're not taking that away from me. Ever you're saying you treated an internal boundary for you. Which was i've gotta be up at four fifteen to work out in to get this shit done. Though that the rest of my day becomes better right exactly like i mean does. Does everybody needs to do that. Like like like like. How did you even come up with that. It was just something that you felt like because you had done it in the past like how understand that so to be honest i look at my day. I looked at my day where i was getting law so if i was working out at nine pm ten. Am was getting the best workout. Was i getting actual full-time to release my thoughts elsewhere that i could open my brain only worked out and think about me. I just came up with a lincoln four feet. Most of the world's asleep. I can get me time. I think at that time. That's for me aid. I will never take that away from myself. Ever done Even wear down atlanta the retreat house. Before i was just reading. I was working out. 'cause we were there. I did my workouts prior. But i was reading. I was doing me time i was. I wasn't thinking about other people. It was only for meat internal person. Do that feels. Like i think to most guys that feels either selfish or you know some of them go will. My wife says i'm selfish. Or she already says. I spend time but i think in in other ways other guys feel guilty. That like i think most men would probably feel guilty if they're spending time on themselves because as men were like wired to provide or wired to protect or wired to like do all this other shit for other people as opposed to doing stuff for us and it feels weird like go do something for myself like how does how does that sit with you a hundred percent but i think the reason why originally i cannot the early warning in was my kids really wanted to sleep. Everybody's asleep so. I'm not hurting anybody else making that time. It's actually kind of avoiding that external boundaries by taking journal boundary then comes in like you said cigars. I then put an internal boundary that three days a week at night. Either gonna hang on. My voice aren't gonna help by myself. Smoking a cigar for an hour. Maybe drink maybe not but just again and getting the me time that the way that it comes out is a bad idea my perspective. That's where i gained my reflection in those times. Not focused on work. I'm not focused on the family on up focused on those things focused on. Okay here's some events that have happened. Let me look back at it. Let me see what i was feeling. Let me feel that a little bit. More guys have had a tough tough week this week. I've cried three times in the past week. And it's been a long time since i've cried. That many times was at. My friend's wedding was because my daughter after an argument with my wife was hitting me in her. Why did that happen. So i had a conversation with her. The other one was at a player that ended up finally paralyzed from hidden on sunday. This is a play. That's only seventeen years old and so much in front of him. I remembered the. It hurts me. Because i want to give to other people. Yeah but at the time. I have been able to cry. Gone a long time and it's been it's been refreshing to be on you. Tears are are are amazing tears. Wipe away pain. Tears are beautiful. I'm so glad gifted us with tears. It's an amazing way to deal with striving. It's an amazing way to deal with this pain. You know what's interesting as you're talking more guys need to see this if you listen to your story. Here's a guy who you know has been successful but was kind of just like i would say almost a hamster wheel and kind of just doing life and suddenly marriage starts going to shit. And you're like fuck what what happened. What is going on and it pulls you out of that hamster wheel and so suddenly. You're now in this place of at i've been neglecting me. I have been enjoying life here. You are too. You know where we've been working together for a while now Going getting closer to a year. And it's like you never one you know this is. You can't escape you so you started working on you and then number two you start saying okay. I can't escape me. And i mean be able. I fixed my marriage. And i'm working on me. I'm doing that. But i'm enjoying life like like you are tapping into life at its highest source whether you're religious person or not doesn't matter the fact is that we we all know there's there's something more out there there's something in this realm of spirit whatever and emotions and all these things and you're going i'm going to experience all of it for me like whatever it looks like for andrew is for andrew and i say the same for me like for mark when i wake up every day. I'm going to experience the fullness of life for me. And that's what i hear in your story which is exciting. Because it means that we didn't just like we didn't fix your marriage we fix you. We said let's wake your ass up. Dopp knock knock wake your ass up. Yeah and you're now living that and now you're at a place where you're like. Hey i want to give back. I wanna start helping other guys come into that same realization like we have this joke inside of our team. And that is that there's all these gurus out there. There's all these these these like you know the tony robbins wakeup warriors. The man on fire the bullet all these guys like have their shit together. But they're like these gurus. And i say you know what we're going to be the imperfect guru we're going to be the imperfect ones go. We don't have all of the things we don't have the secret success life all we have is life. All we have is. We're going to enjoy life to help you enjoy life so when you connect with our team when you connect with our organization on what we do our goal is to wake your ass up and to go. Where are you lying to yourself and it sounds like you've come to that place so let's get a little bit more practical because i think you've talked about some things here. That are super important. You talked about creating internal boundaries. You talked about sort of your own morning structure and really about. I would say this external internal leadership stuff. Can you give us some some practical things around changes that guy should be making in their daily routine would have on their marriage their business etc got out every hour to be honest my every hour scheduled out And even my playtime. My kids time. It's scheduled out. You do have a little bit flexible. What the way my schedule looks is. It starts at four fifteen everyday but it ends at nine pm every single day. Nothing happens after nine o'clock good. Let me just put it out there. Nothing after nine pm good happens but my work day and at four thirty if you try to call me you try to do these things lesson apple murphy now happening as boundaries. So as soon as you can start doing those small boundaries of me time or telling your employees. They can't call this time. Telling your business partners can't call it that time or don't expect me to answer it goes through. And that's the key is setting that external for your internal cell so it sounds like for you. The key has been having a structured day that results in productivity the results in freedom. It's kind of the train tracks. Mentality of a train can't go anywhere without tracks and you have to have those boundaries which are the tracks nor for it to go somewhere. That's what you found was creating the right size track for that train is going to help you get to where you wanna go much quicker so i call it the bowling alley right. You got gutters. Don't go outside the gutters never go outside the gutters because out the gutters is where the ball goes away. If you stay within the boundaries that you created for yourself or bilo franchising they create the gutters. I kind of bouncing between figure out my own. It's that mentality but just for yourself. Yeah that's the biggest change. It's not a change. I've always had it but never been this on. It enacts the difference. Yeah it sounds like you got dialed in and said i want to level up in all these areas. I think it's exciting to me. Because i also was never a guy i never had boundaries. You know in my marriage. My first marriage my i had no boundaries I didn't know my ass from left to right. I didn't know what was going on. She was kicking my ass all over the place. She dictated everything i was. Yes sir. yes ma'am Kind of guy and it literally took for me took me saying no more. And once i started putting the boundaries up the marriage went to shed. And thus i fought for divorce and so it's interesting because a lot of guys are so afraid of all. Those things are afraid of consequence. I don't know if you thought about that like like we're so afraid of. If i do this then the the outcome will not be favor. And you and i are talking about this in your own stuff and it's like you're facing some outcomes but it's ask a leader because the internal leadership. The external leadership becomes amazing. Speak to that a little bit. I mean it's a hundred percent. I mean i think my big 'cause i said was twelve hour drive to atlanta Set the boundary. That i was to go number one which is huge number. Two was more favorite thing. And i put this almost every week. Worksheet now is the. Don't give a fuck muscle it's there and you just have to own into the way you act the way that you know what you want. Is somebody react to that in a negative way. It has no effect on who are and that's the battalion had to get to is. I would say. I was going to wear white doing this. The reason i was trying to wedding was she wanted me to wear a mask. The brining groom my office manager. It'd be a wedding like who has the boss to be in their way not act waiting in the wedding. And then she couldn't even get past Could get past her fears for somebody else's pleasure. Nap opened my eyes to is she ever going to be able to me but doesn't matter and that's where a man is. The internal self moons ago work on me. And i see mark my relationship going a long long long long long time. This is not a not a six week that nine wealth than this is going to be years and years and years. Because you can't stop working yourself and but the thing that really got me was just. Because i am who i am doesn't mean somebody can yell at me or put their thoughts and the way they want me to think onto me a natural excited up my boundaries and it's over myself up elsewhere my family. You know my mom. My sister a had conversations great conversation with around it now and it comes out so different. It's appreciative. yeah so that's the big thing is know yourself it's interesting. Is that by doing all of that. You create confidence. I think so. Many guys were listening to podcasts. You're watching the videos like they just crave confidence and would you agree with me. That confidence comes as a result of action. Not inaction honors offense in the weight room. Where does it come from. Everything comes from you mia and that's what the hardest part was. I was looking externally four gratification. That appreciation now obviously still would love nothing wrong with that but at the same time you know our mantra that if you know he started this week has been great for me. It's one of the things that i'm putting together as a six week plan for knitter leader one of them is how do you show yourself the aaa affection affirmation and appreciation to yourself. Because as soon as i started doing that you know what's crazy eight is like i what you're describing is what i what i want. Every man to aspire to which is where they get to this place where they can love their wife. They can choose to love her but they can also choose to put a boundary up. that says. Hey it's not okay for things to be this way. I'm gonna love you from afar until you decide to make your own changes. This is where i'm going to be and at some point if you decide to file for divorce or separate or whatever it will be on your terms. I the thing about it is. That leaders are proactive. Followers are reactive. Leaders are proactive. Followers are reactive. And what i see in the group what i see in you. Know in the guys in the podcast where the guys on sales calls with is that they literally are reacting to everything that's happening and the only way to stop reacting is to lean in and become a fucking leader and what you're describing injure is to become a leader comes from his place of such confidence in such boldness dare to say i have value. I have value in those values. Equal boundaries those boundaries equals a new way of living. And you found that you tapped into that. Said i'm going to become that and i'm gonna i remember when you said i just got to stop giving a fuck and was like jess. That's a fucking in and it's not that we don't give a fuck about the woman it's the we don't give a fuck on the outside external pressure because if you're going to be a leader and a leader that leads well leads his family his children job all those things. 'cause every fucking man is a leader. Every man is a leader whether he chooses to be or not. That is the question. So you're watching listening and going through this with us. You gotta ask yourself. Do i actually want to be a leader. Because if you don't guess what look around and see what the fuck is happening. It's because you're not acting like a leader. It's because you're not so do we. We're going to wrap this up. What are your final thoughts you want to share with the guys encourage anybody or or just tell them. Hey this is what you should do. Honestly the thing that you need to do is do some research but it's all about you at the end of the day is all about you. What actions you're gonna take a you to sit there and blame or you take leadership within yourself so becoming external leader and become what you wanna be a guess. What a woman's get your family's gonna love you and that's the biggest place to be is i'm gonna leave me to leave my family and i'm going to have hours in a partner at the end of the day. Love it so good man. Search word guys. Thank you for watching listening today. You'll be seen andrew hopefully a little bit more round. We've got some leadership stuff. We're working on within the vip program as well thrive. So if you're not in highly recommend you get in. We are growing like crazy internally. We've just added some more coaches. We've added a marriage coach. Who is a therapist by trade. Does it for living We have her in staff. Now we've got other therapists and coaches on staff. This thing is. We're trying to build something that nobody else has done. And that is that we will be emotional. Intelligence strong men and men that are leaders in every aspect of life. So we encourage you to connect with our team. We encourage you to connect with what we're doing here at the empowered man. If you are in that place where you're saying you know what i have not been a fucking leader and you know you need to lead. You know you need to step up. I'm encouraging to check out what we've got going on they. Vip program cursing you connect with our team in the vip or in the empowered man group. It's empower man last and you should definitely join us and we'll go from there. Andrew thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it Look forward to our continue chats and discussions on the topic of leadership for sure can't wait. Hey if what you heard today really resonated with you and you want to connect with me than. Here's what i want you to do. Put your phone right now. And go-to empowered man dot co slash group. That's empowered man dot c. o. dot com dot co slash group. So you can join our free facebook and connect with me there. We also have a ton of free content and trainings in that group. To help you when you join so until then this is mark signing off on empowered af.

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What is Baby-Led Weaning?

Baby-Led Weaning Made Easy

20:42 min | 1 year ago

What is Baby-Led Weaning?

"As parents and caregivers we sometimes get so hung up on what or how much our babies are eating that we forget from six to twelve months of age. This is the practice period where we should be teaching babies. How to eat will baby led weaning. Lets you do just that. Hey there I'm Katie. Ferraro registered Dietitian College. Do Tricia Professor Mama. Seven specializing in baby led meaning here on the baby led. Weaning made easy podcast. I help you strip out the noise and nonsense about feeding the new with the competence and knowledge. You need to give your baby a safe. Start TO SOLID. Foods using baby led weaning Hello and welcome to the very first episode of the baby led weaning a made easy podcast. I'm your host Katie Ferraro. And we are really starting at the beginning today. We're going to be talking about. What exactly is baby led weaning. Like how do you get your baby to eat real wholesome foods from his or her first bites? And how do you do that safely so in today's episode? I'll tell you a little bit about the history of this feeding philosophy just kind of set the stage but you also need to know what you can expect to get out of your decision to go this route to feed your baby because there's actually a lot in it for you as the parent or the caregiver to. I'll tell you how I personally became devoted to this approach to starting solids. It starts out with me being an utter disaster when I tried to spoon feed my oldest daughter but then how baby led weaning helped us turn things around as a family and really brought the fun back into family meal times. Because I believe feeding. Your baby should be fun. We're going to be talking a little bit though. Also about what led weaning is not just to set the record straight and hang tight. 'cause I'm going to be sharing a quick win with you guys. That's going to help you out. During the first few weeks of baby led weaning. Like when you feel like you WANNA quit because you're not sure if you're doing this baby feeding thing right. I will tell you the secret to pushing past those first few frustrating feedings with your baby. So let's go ahead and get started talking about what is baby led weaning now as a registered Dietitian and a college nutrition. Professor who specializes in baby led weaning as well as a mom. Who's done this approach with six of my seven kids? I like to describe. Baby led weaning as a practical safe hands on approach to starting solid foods. Baby led weaning is an alternative to traditional spoon feeding and when I say traditional spoon feeding. I'm talking about that age old image of starting solids. You know the one where the mom or the DAD is putting period foods on a spoon and then trying to get the baby who is generally disinterested or disgusted sometimes forcefully. They're trying to get the baby to eat that period food. But YOU GUYS. There is another way to feed a baby and babies can do a lot more than we give them credit for babies who are six months of age or older plus exhibiting the other signs of readiness to feed. They can learn to love to feed themselves safe. Age appropriate foods provided by but not necessarily forced fed by you the parent or the caregiver so this alternative to traditional spoon. Feeding baby led weaning. It's where the baby is in control of eating. So it's not us forcing or coercing or manipulating our babies to eat. And if you think about it baby led weaning this whole approach to feeding. It's really a centuries old natural approach to letting your baby feet. I mean I always wonder like what in the world did cave. Mama do back in the day prior to the advent of commercial baby food or puffs or pouches right. She probably let her baby eat real food. That's kind of the crux of baby led weaning. But there's a lot of nuance in the details on how to do this safely. And that's something I really focus on in this podcast and in my work baby led weaning. It's about how to give your baby a safe start to solid foods using baby led weaning because any food. If it's Fed unsafely can be dangerous so we need to focus on the safety part of it and mentioned how. It's kind of an old centuries-old approach rather to letting your baby sell feed foods you might be wondering well then a why I only hearing about this baby led weaning thing now so as a term goes the term baby led weaning was coined by Gil rapidly. The CO author of the original baby led weaning book. She was researching self feeding among babies. Ended up calling this idea. Baby led weaning so dr rapidly who has appeared who has studied infant feeding and child development. She Co wrote. Her baby led weaning book which was originally published in two thousand and eight now it since updated and expanded in a tenth anniversary edition and I highly recommend that you read this book. It's called baby led weaning the essential guide it's by rapidly and Marquette and it will really help you get an understanding of the philosophy behind how babies can learn to sell feet and why they should be able to do that versus US trying to force feed them so what I love about. Baby led weaning. Is that it really is a philosophy as well as a practice that addresses. Not just what your baby eats but really it's more about letting the baby learn how to eat. And I know personally as parents and caregivers we sometimes get just so hung up on. What and how much our babies are eating that? We really forget the bigger picture. Which is this whole period from six to twelve months or so? It's about letting our babies learn how to eat and giving them that permission to practice. Our goal ultimately is to have your baby sitting at the table. Eating modified versions of the same foods at the rest of the family does by the time you're baby turns one but you know what your baby doesn't just magically wake up on his or her first birthday and know how to do all of this eating stuff right. That's why we start practicing at around six months of age when it comes to the evidence and the research to back up and support baby led weaning. And I'll go through all of that in this podcast with you. My show notes will always have links to the research that we're talking about. It is a safe and effective feeding method and the research really bears that out. It's actually a really exciting time for to be working in this field but also for you to be raising an independent eater. And that's because there is a real and credible body of research and evidence that supports baby led weaning as a viable and safe alternative to traditional spoon. Feeding we know from the research that babies who are exposed to the greatest number of foods and flavours and tastes and textures early and often those babies are more likely to become independent eaters. And they're less likely to be picky eaters. So I wanNA tell you guys a quick story about how I became. A huge diversity of baby led weaning. And why I actually ended up shifting the entire focus of my nutrition career to help other parents and caregivers learn how to do baby led weaning safely. I mentioned at the top. I think I did that. I have seven children and when my oldest daughter Molly was starting solid foods? It did not go well like I can say this now but the time I was so embarrassed molly really hated being spoon-fed. I was doing what my pediatrician said. Now I know I started too early. She wasn't ready. I did everything wrong. And I'm fine sharing that with you guys now but let me just say molly really hated being spoon fed and at the time mealtimes just quickly devolved into this downright battleground. I couldn't get molly to eat and I felt like a total failure as a parent. Because what kind of mom can't feed her baby and then like all kind of Dietitian mom on top of that? I felt awful and I even remember this. One time I was basically trying to force feed molly to eat these stupid periods that I had frozen and mom called. She's also a dietician. A mom of six kids and then my sister who herself has six kids. They invited me to go on a play around lunchtime and I totally lied instead. I couldn't go not that I didn't want to but that I just didn't want to have to be around them and have them see especially at mealtime how. I couldn't feed my own daughter when it was time to eat. And I mean I. I really did not like feeding molly. I was super frustrated and I just felt like a failure as a parent. So of course right around this time my husband and I found out that I was pregnant with quadruplets. So we have been doing fertility treatments. I knew that the odds of like a multiples pregnancy was out there but I was not expecting quadruplets and I remember the first thing that I thought when I saw the four little blips on the ultrasound was how am I going to feed these four babies at once. If I can't even feed the one baby I have at home right now. I ended up having what eventually were three healthy boys and a healthy girl born at thirty four weeks and are quadruplets. Spent some time in the nick you growing. And if you've ever spent time in the nick you you may remember. There's a lot of downtime so I was feeling so dejected about feeding molly back at home like to the point where I would do anything to skip mealtime. I'd be like someone else feed her. I'll stay at the nick you but I did kind of throw myself into researching what I could do to help improve feeding situation back at home like were to ever go back there because molly was basically boycotting every one of my spoon feeding attempts so this colleague had told me about this thing called baby led weaning in. Again College. Nutrition professor taught nutrition throughout the life cycle for years. Never even heard of it. I remember this colleague. Saying this kind of thing that you're starting to hear more about it but when you start to use and learn about baby led weaning. You'll instantaneously see a huge difference in how your baby starts loving types of food and you're GONNA stop dreading mealtimes ended up by the way it also helps prevent picky eating so what kind of realized through learning doing more research. Is that me limiting molly to spoon feeding only periods. That were fed by me was really taking away. Her ability and desire to learn how to enjoy eating and that baby led weaning was something that could actually bring it back so rather than feeling. Sorry for myself about my older baby. That wouldn't eat in my little babies that were in the nick you. I threw myself into learning everything I could about. This baby led weaning thing. I read all of the Research. Speaking with all of the experts in my field. Because even though the quadruplets were still only weeks old I was convinced that when it was time for the quads to eat we were going to start out on the right foot and I wasn't going to recreate the painful introduction to solids that I had had from spoon feeding molly. This time I was determined to use baby led weaning to help create a fun and enjoyable approach to family meals rather than battling it out with five babies rejecting food. So it's safe to say that during those first few weeks and months of the quadruplets live I became obsessed about baby led weaning. I reviewed and read every peer reviewed published article on the topic. I could get my hands on talking to the experts needing to know that this was really a safe in legitimate way to start solid foods like I was not like I needed to be with something that is backed by the evidence. Not SOME FLASH IN THE PAN. Wu parenting technique. That would be like here today. Gone tomorrow serious stuff right like how our kids learned to have a relationship with food. But I have to say that when the quadruplets were finally ready to eat baby led weaning really was the godsend that I had hoped it would be for my family whereas I had struggled so much with spoon. Feeding Molly with the quads. I went a totally different route and different direction with baby led weaning. My quads started eating real wholesome foods from the time they were six months adjusted age. And they've been feeding themselves ever since by the time they turned one. The quadruplets had each tried over one hundred different foods and so throughout this time I was documenting it and sharing it on social media and beginning to write and speak about how this was such a more positive experience for introducing foods like it literally made feeding for babies at once not only feasible but fun it was so enjoyable and since that time our family expanded by one more set of multiples. We wanted that one final baby. We twins baby twins. Gus and Hannah. Some of you guys may know them from my instagram page. At baby led Wean team. Which is where I really honed. My whole hundred first foods approach to starting solids with baby led weaning. I actually started that. Instagram wind gusts and Hannah started solids. I didn't want to be spamming. My main page. I wanted to be documenting. Everything about the first hundred foods that they were eating as I was refining this approach and I know that so many of you guys have followed the same feeding framework to help your babies. Eat One hundred foods before turning one. And if you're just starting out I will help you get your baby to that. Really important benchmark of one hundred foods before the baby turns one and I am so convinced that baby led. Weaning is the best way to raise an independent eager to the point that I shifted the focus of my nutrition practice and I now work exclusively in baby led weaning so hence the podcast baby led weaning. Made Easy now through my courses and workshops and trainings. I've had the opportunity to help. Tens of thousands of families and caregivers give their babies a safe start to solid foods. I also worked extensively with doctors and dieticians and other health care workers as well as childcare providers to teach them how to give babies a safe start to solid foods using baby led weaning. So since I get asked probably every day. What exactly is baby led weaning. Because it's kind of a weird term if you're not familiar with the mechanics of weaning and we'll get into that in the podcast. But I like to summarize baby led weaning by saying it is a practical safe hands on approach to starting solid foods baby led weaning is an alternative to traditional spoon. Feeding now. Spoons are not outlawed. On this podcast. I will teach you how you can incorporate spoon feeding for naturally pureed foods. But the kicker is it's all about letting the baby drive the spoon. I'll show you the preloaded spoon technique. You don't have to do the work baby does it. Baby led weaning. Helps you raise an independent eater? Baby led weaning helps you prevent picky eating and I think most importantly above all baby led weaning allows your baby to develop a healthy relationship with food. Because I don't know exactly where you're at in your parenting journey right now but many of us are working to improve our own relationships with food at the same time that we're trying to teach our children how to have a healthy relationship with food. So maybe we ourselves are a picky eater or maybe. I don't have the best relationship with food or maybe my partner is an on board with teaching the baby how to sell feet one of the things that a colleague of Mine Dr Juliane Organ says. She's a pediatrician. And I love this line. She says you are writing your family's food story your babies a blank slate. The story hasn't started yet. Your family story does not have to end up with you. Having a picky eater who will only eat like dinosaurs shape. Chicken Nuggets Right. You are writing your family's food story and I think a great place to start is with baby led weaning this approach. That helps your baby get a safe. Start TO SOLID. Foods and build a huge repertoire of foods and flavours tastes and textures. That will be the foundation of his or her future healthy relationship with food. I am so excited to share all of these safe eating tips and resources as well as the research and data that supports this alternative to traditional spoon. Feeding with all of YOU GUYS. Here on this podcast. Now if you're just getting started doing solid foods with your baby I want to teach you the secret to success for baby led weaning. You'RE GONNA sit down with your baby at those first few feedings and for a lot of you. Nothing is going to happen. Your baby won't do much. They might touch the food that you put out there. They might sniff the food. They'll probably smash some of it in their hair. If your baby is like one of my quadruplets Henry he'll actually just put his head down on the table and not participate in eating for the first six weeks of baby led weaning and without one. I remember thinking if this were my only baby. I would be so worried that I'm doing something wrong. Because you'll see other babies eating more than your baby or eating faster than your baby or in different foods than your baby and you'll want to compare your baby to those babies but don't do it compare and despair right guys. Your baby is unique. All babies develop on their own timeframe. Now on this podcast I will be teaching you about feeding milestones we can and should be aiming for and how to sequence the allergenic foods for your baby. I'M GONNA help you get over your fear of gagging and choking and really help you push your babies pallet with those trickier textures and the more complex flavor profiles. But not at the beginning. It's slow at the beginning and that is by design. Your baby is learning. How eat please do not stress about how much your baby is? Eating especially early on your baby is getting most of his or her nutrition from breast milk and or formula right now and that's actually going to continue for a little while as you give your baby the opportunity to learn how to eat. Nothing irks me more than parents who say things like. Oh well my pediatrician. Wants my baby to start eating more and eating early to help him gain weight what it is totally inappropriate to assume that six month or seven-month-old baby could ever adequately or safely eat enough to promote leaking in that case fortifying the babies breast milk or formula would be appropriate. But you know how could food provide so many extra calories so early on when your baby hasn't even had the opportunity to figure out how to eat that food yet so give yourself some grace and some space especially early on the most important thing for you to remember is what your job is. In all of this feeding business I think the easiest and best way to remember what our job is is to keep the division of responsibility in feeding theory. Top of mind. Now if you haven't heard of this. The division of responsibility in feeding theory was created by Ellen. Sadder a noted Dietitian and therapist who specializes in feeding and eating. And here's what satyrs division of responsibility in feeding says. We as the parents and caregivers were responsible for three things. We are in charge of what the baby eats where the baby eats. And when the baby eats but your baby. Your baby is in charge of how much or even whether the baby eats. That's important so so important. I'm going to say it again. Your baby is in charge l. How much or even whether he or she is going to eat. You're you're still important though. You have three important jobs right. You have to pick what the baby eats meaning safe. Wholesome foods which you'll learn a lot about in this podcast. You also have to pick where the baby eats. That means a safe space seeded and position properly to help produce choking risk which I'll talk to you till you're blue face about and then you also have to pick when the baby eats meaning. We have established mealtimes no constant snacking or grazing. I'll teach you all about scheduling food and milk feeds in. This baby led weaning podcast. But that's all you have to do beyond that. You are off the hook. You're not even allowed to worry. About how much or even weather your baby eats. That's your babies job. You are going to be blown away by all of the foods that your baby can safely self feet. Just wait. I got tons. More baby led weaning info. Coming your way in this brand new podcast please. Hit subscribe to make sure you get notified when there are new episodes subscribing. Also make sure that you get my bonus episodes and I can't wait to see you in the next episode where I'm going to be talking a little bit more about your baby and the five things your baby should be able to do before starting solid foods by now.

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Ep 187  Client Insights With Julie Littlechild

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Ep 187 Client Insights With Julie Littlechild

"Welcome to top advisor marketing where you will learn how to become a prolific online influence attract more ideal clients and grow your practice practice brought to you by top advisor podcasting a done for you podcasting solution bill just for trusted advisers and now nor co hosts of the top adviser. Marketing Turk glow and Matt Halloween Hello and welcome to another top advisor marketing podcast. We are still live at the S. Not is something some eighteen with this is called S._A._C. Select Adviser Conference. We should know that we should because we've been here for two days now. My guest is Julie Little Child if you don't recognize her voice and if you don't recognize her voice that means you haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the world and this is the second time Jewish men on the show actually technically cleef third because of Oh no I didn't interview U._N. Steve at the same time I should do that very confused yeah well. That's all right. We have not had enough coffee this morning but I'm I'm super excited because you're going to talk about something that I probably have more knowledge about than I should because we sold you and sold this system that you're bringing bringing back. When I was a peak that's right. He's still the heck out of it. I know wonderful mobbed it so Julia Child. Show so let's talk about your official title. Real quick work and then let's talk about this absolutely I'm the founder of absolute engagement short and sweet girl absolute engagement dot com website that is if you haven't connected with Juliane social media. It's just Julie Little child like at Lincoln. Please please please be on there in also your podcast yeah the becoming referral podcast you do a Steven Steven wishing again that sad becoming referral dot com you can imagine and it is wonderful for those of you who really truly want to run a referral base business. You have to listen to this podcast. It's it's magnificent. They have a great chemistry. They bring on okay guests and that really brought down the but other than that. It's been pretty good take. Let's talk about what you're bringing back. So client. Feedback is coming back. I look I have been a proponent of gathering weathering client feedback for for as long as I can remember in this industry and we had the program that you reference for many years through my previous company. We stepped away from from it focus on some research and some other activities but we're back because it's so I think it's so important there is a gap in the market too and I had a lot of time to think about what I would do differently if we could do it again so I'm so excited about. What did you do differently because the system before was really quite remarkable. Well thank you and so the key differences in in maybe it can step back and just say I mean the whole program is really designed for an adviser who needs some support so we guide read them through the process of selecting the right questions that fit for their business because it's different from one to the next and we managed the whole process for them and then the real magic his on the back end where we give them the analytics we drive it down to client level and so on and so forth so it's kind of a turn key solution the big areas that I wanted to focus on where one we've learned learned a thing or two about engagement continued to do investor research have gone deeper into the drivers of engagement and that suggested some new questions that advisers might consider asking so we refresh the Question Bank. Some things were working. We added to that. We completely modernized the interface on the survey survey side as technology is just so much so when your clients click on that survey it's a really nice slick clean interface and we can make use of a lot of that and then on the back end that was the third big change what we wanted to do was make the connection between data and action tighter. If you will sue uh even visually everything is about what's your objective. Here's the data you need and then here's a step by step action plan to take so we really flesh that out the we'll start there and work backwards so the action plan aspect of it which was something you did have with the first iteration of this. My advisers found so valuable able and wildly eye opening to do you have to do any sort of counseling because you're talking about. It's a step by step and you hold their hand but how many of them go to you and say oh my oh my God. Is it a lot of people who I didn't know this or while. I feel bad that I missed this or helped me with that. I want to uncover that a little bit. I think the biggest his comments are that they can't believe how much insight they get so a lot of people go into feedback thinking okay. I think I do a good job and clients are going to tell me they're satisfied which is probably probably true. I mean I hope that's true at any rate but what they're amazed at is when we can dig deeper and we can say well here your referral opportunities. Here's your here the service opportunities He. We're not trying to fix your business but what's really important to your clients. And how can you take that up a notch. That's the kind of stuff where they're like. Wow it's so so rich and and look diagnosed even without that it was a good thing to do right as your clients for feedback not a bad idea but yeah it's amazing. What gets uncovered uncovered. I remember the first client who purchased your services. When I was at peak in you had done some training with us to help them interpret some of the results. What's I would say that I was okay but I remember looking at the report and saying to the adviser. Oh my God look at like the opportunity especially this. This was a wild way but someone ten years ago eight years ago. Okay in one of the big things was insurance opportunities multigeneration opportunities teaching my kids about money Baba and if I was like boy I don't even talk about insurance and I'm like. Oh my God dollars an opportunity there. That's really the connection that you're highlighting. Is the ability ready to then drive it down to the client level right so we make name optional. We get about three quarters of names on average. I would say so instead of just seeing twenty percent of your client said they're interested insurance. It's Mary Smith is interested in insurance now. That's a conversation that you can have okay. I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Aren't we surveyed to death like I go to a restaurant and they're like please fill out the survey and when five hundred hours how do you help with that. How do you overcome that now mind you. Years is a real survey that actually the real data and really really good and the way that you position it is different so would you mind actually starting there. Let's talk about how does an adviser open this conversation Russian and get those clients fill out the service yes so that opening email that they sent his really important then we guide them through that whole process given them a sample letter they can send her email that they can send and it's really he. I think there's two things that make it different from the restaurant or I just bought a fridge or whatever it is and you get that survey one is that your client actually care about. This service is important to them my fridge. I mean it's important but let's face it not a big part of my life life and so when people care just infinitely more likely to participate but the setup that you mentioned also important so that letter says look here's why why we're doing this. It's for you. It's about how I can serve you better and when it's positioned through the eyes of the client then then they feel oh good about that and we get response rates on average about forty percent which is like crazy. I M e some people might not realize what I mean. You can get like one percent on service so it's I think they care and they feel engaged in and they want to contribute so talk about some of the would you give us a question that you changed like from where it was and where it is now just to get better by example yes so some of the questions that we included it wasn't a change so much as an addition came out of our last high net worth investor study and it was the idea of guidance being the number one driver of engagement so when rather than just just being smart and being credentialed and being able to get good performance when you start talking to investors about my adviser guides me to either create my goals or keep me on track or help me with spending discipline all of those sorts of things then we call that guidance so we've included alluded some questions that really get at to the clients feel like they are being guided and so it's more things like that where the questions relate to engagement payment and then we can say look. These are really important for you to understand. We've also just gone deeper for example. One of the most common questions that we recommend is. Have you provided a referral the number one biggest opportunity. You'RE GONNA get but we've included a follow up question that says have you provided a referral in the last twelve months if no why y. and now we understand. I just didn't meet anyone. There's some issue now wow now you've got some data to say okay. Let's try to tailor our approach approach based on what's going on so those are some examples of where we're just going a little deeper. You do a crap ton of research and I know that's a very quantifiably official term. Actually your data sign. I really am going to your data scientists price. This is all based off that right so this isn't just whimsical stuff. I mean you have companies who hire US specifically because of your research. Where did that come from. I don't think I ever asked you that before and I'm interested in part of of it is me like I need to have evidence to feel comfortable talking about what I'm talking about. I'm just not that person who can go. Hey I think this is a good idea therefore you. I should think it's a good idea so it's been a big part so way back. When I first started the company one of the first things we did was reports like the anatomy of the referral and the economics of loyalty and I just started going out serving thousand investors every year and that began to inform not just our feedback but our whole training programs uh-huh and everything that we do so I just I'm just a believer in the data. How do people get access to that data like I don't know if I know how to even though it does change a little year to year and I I used to write a report every year and put it out and so and I may start doing that again in fairness but often it sponsored plan so it comes out so for for example this year the investments and wealth institute sponsored majority of the study and they're going to be releasing that at their annual conference which this happens at the beginning of May so there's going to be a a Nice in-depth report on some of the drivers of being an exceptional advisor is how they're positioning okay and we'll have to get better. I gotTa tell you at releasing worth more often. I was talking to a couple of people about you because I was actually referring them and the amount of research that I know that you've done especially for S._e._I. Where we're at I was talking to Jerry Listens Lazinski in John Anderson and they're both like she's our go to person for research and s he has frigging organization now. Yes we do the whole corporate side so often will partner with an association. Were like the institute to get data out but we're often brought in to do some pretty significant corporate work as well and that's often custom so we've done some custom research urge with S._E._I. They've also sponsored some broader research. We've done this and even with Klein insights. which is the name of the client feedback program often? It's it's not just for an advisor. We're we do somewhere. We're doing an across the company survey and then cutting the data by five hundred advisers that just generates a ton of constant learning and so I- draw on those insights. They're not a a crisp significant industry sample sample because it's from one firm but it sure helps us learn sure so. Let's talk a little bit more. What kind of adviser should be getting the insights so I mean it's fairly broad based in. That's about asking clients for feedback so I think we all need to do that. I would say that generally advisors aren't thinking about that until they have a rough base of clients grow so maybe they've been in the industry three to five years. They're starting to think have I even got a process in place that I want to assess around inclined experience and that's generally when I find it but then it just goes up from there there is there's no point where you shouldn't be asking clients for feedback how about frequency yeah so generally and I've relied more on our clients to tell us what works and it seems to fall around eighteen months and you could survey your clients every year could but a lot Cena we like. You said they generate so much data right. There's so much follow up that it takes time and so just to give it some time in one of the things I really recommend is. It's great to get benchmarks right so ask some. Some of the questions can be the same but maybe one year you're considering a new the educational strategy or there's topics that you wanNA test absolutely make some of those questions different each year and then you continue to get new insights insights and it's become the same thing you're after year. Let's talk about the action items because that was again the thing that totally blew me away ten years ago when I looked at this. How do you help them. Them with the reporting itself is very actionable but on the dashboard so every advisor that goes through gets access to their own personal dashboard all their reports are there's videos on how to interpret the results and I should say they all get a one hour coaching call good so we make sure that they fully understand what they're going to do next but then they can click on different objectives so it literally says what do you want to do today. I want to protect my clients at risk so I click on that. It says here are your clients at risk and then here the three steps to go through with the resources so more step-by-step wow I want to. I want to have deeper deeper conversations with my clients then we've created this is something we had before but we've continued to do this idea of a meeting planner tool so you can literally go ruin their you select the name of a client and it populates a meeting agenda for you just with the data that you want to go deeper on you. Don't want to take a completed survey and start at the top and say okay. Let's every answer he gave me right but it says look focus first on the relationship then expectations then additional opportunities and then referrals girls right at the end and then we try to teach them how to have that conversation. I don't mean to put you on the spot and can you give us a price range on this yeah absolutely will we have partners like S._e._I. Hi where they're getting a discount so for example for S._E._I. Advisors it's eight forty five. It's nine ninety five normally and in that's serving up to the two hundred fifty households and that's everything so that's the kickoff meeting the customization the data in the coaching call if you have more clients than that it increases increases on the little if you want team based reporting which in fairness a lot do so if you have a multi advisor team you can get a dashboard that shows the aggregate okay but then you can also see each individual advisor in you know if you're a branch for example you might want to see that or you might have a large team where where each advisor doesn't want everybody else seeing results so these are sort of customisations if you will <hes> that we can accommodate in it adds a few hundred dollars. Let's let's talk about R._O._I. Because I get that question all the time I hate that question but we do something kind of fundamentally different their thousand dollars for one on just the knowledge to me seems like a hell of a price point but I can think of one advisor specifically that took your report and garnered another million dollars in assets because of the right questions the identification referral piece that you had I mean. Are you hearing hearing stories like that and that's it. I mean look at all this opportunity. The reality is if you want the R._O._I. Story it's one opportunity or one referral runs. You're done and if we can't do that with the data that comes out. It's all about follow up though I mean it looking at the data it turns out doesn't create the shock numb but we do everything we can to make sure say look. Just click on your list of opportunities. Please talk to that one client. Have the conversation and let's see we're going and then you hear stories of I got three referrals fiber frills ten referrals it system as well. The value of what what you've created to me is there's nobody who does this appreciate. Even if there's anybody who's in the same ballpark they're sitting like way out in left field. They're not even on the playing playing field all of the data all of your experience the fact that you're revisiting this and bringing it back at a time where the commoditisation of the relationship relationship I mean there's so many layers of why this is so important. Tell me an objection when you bring this. What is something that somebody he says and you're like wow that was legitimate objection why they shouldn't do. I tell you the objection I can argue whether they're legitimate that's number one fear. Oh God God yes right out of the gate. We've heard that over the last couple of days. I'm just scared and you look. Here's what I say. Tens of thousands of surveys later average satisfaction still like four point. I five out of five. Let's not worry about that. It's not an issue. If you have some clients who aren't happy. You have to know who they write in. It's okay you probably know who they are so there is an element. I don't know if it's those of us who are Taipei or perfectionist loose. It's vulnerable I suppose I I think we just need to get over that. I personally we hear that what you raised earlier I did my clients are over surveyed so we'll we'll try to help them understand. This is a bit more important still here go to go back to the fear one because honestly if you're afraid there's way deeper issues there in fact when we while we're hearing interviewed. Stephen we're talking about the Advisory Council on that. He has in one of his biggest objections is. I'm terrified DASS or the visor. I'm terrified. Ask My questions but knowing is half the battle adult. I'm going back to the old G._I. Joe Cartoon there because at the end of the cartoon they always say that but even if I had the hint of client satisfaction the other thing is one does not the trend make. You might have that pissed off client but that doesn't mean they're all. Wouldn't you want to know that they're like one is pissed but not everybody's finished. I totally would wanNA know I know I think we extrapolate populate into these fake trends in our mind and I remember working with a guy who wants. You said his analogy was with people who don't want to know. Will he said look if there's an axe murderer in your bedroom turning the lights off doesn't mean there's not an expert in your bit graphic dark perhaps but but that's the point like they're still there just the fact that you don't unearth it and have that but I will tell you this distinct recollection of an homeadvisor coming to me and said I had a client who rated me as neutral we consider neutral an at risk client not dissatisfied neutral. They're open to a conversation right and he said they were neutral is a two million dollar client and so. I reached out I said. Can we talk about this. He said the things that came up. Were so fixable got like they were just and he said we started having a deeper conversation about this. We talked about why we're gathering feedback and how important this is and he said this is a client for life frank now so it was really interesting how some of the sphere isn't even founded jerks. It's fixable every adviser that we talked to whether it's about podcast singer anger about branding. They always say it's the service yeah. If you don't have a gauge on that service you can't look me in the eye and say I have great service and less. I'm getting that feedback loop yeah and look. We make so many assumptions. Don't we so whether it's about service and I mean you mentioned the work you do. PODCASTING is interesting too because we make assumptions assumptions about what clients value. I'm going to keep doing that newsletter because well. Nobody sent it back right so it must be good but what if we asked questions like like how do you get information. Are you listening to podcasts. What do you I mean there. You could start to begin to paint a picture of okay. My clients actually want insight in different ways if advisor unsure about stepping into a new way of marketing asked the questions the question right we'll find down as a person who asks questions for a living like both of us do in a little different way man. I love what comes on the other end I really do. I love knowing I love I just I just feel more empowered that I'm doing a better job control because there's no unknowns a sudden which is a pretty cool place to be. How do you use that you talk about the feeling of control that was really powerful. I don't but I I just I just heard that. I was like wow that really hit me in a place wasted. I think I'm going to write a blog on there. We go all right. Hey that's what I'm here for. Well Julie. Thank you so much for being podcast website again. WELL GO TO ABSOLUTE ENGAGEMENT DOT COM and you can and find information there and happy to do demos for anyone reaches magnificent and also connected you on social media if you have not surveyed your clients. It's it's time that it's time if you use Jewish thing ten years ago. Guess what it's time if you serve your clients using some other survey that I don't I think actually exists. It's time right the data that comes out of the back end of this is actionable data in you will truly be able to say. I really do provide great service because just look. I'm getting a four point five five or last time I did the survey I had a four point now. I'm at four point seven and making progress the right direction and it's also a great way to communicate that back to the clients and say look. Hey you guys raided us here. We implemented what you said and now you're rating us here. This is why we're here. 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Detour To Neverland - Episode 160 | Julie & Andrew from The Disney Dinks

Detour To Neverland

46:29 min | 1 year ago

Detour To Neverland - Episode 160 | Julie & Andrew from The Disney Dinks

"Welcome to detour to Neverland your guide to Living Your Best Disney life through your hobby business. Here's your host Brendan and Catherine so much for taking time out of your busy lives or part of your commute tuning in and letting US share the stories with you and mean so much to us that you take that that time to be part of this so our guest today are Julie and Andrew. Who together are the Disney dink's not Julie Andrews? But in my book. They are just as good. If you are someone who had if you WANNA have a multifaceted project so maybe you WANNA have shop. Anyone have content or maybe on the content decide you WANNA have a different couple of different kinds between social media and video and maybe a podcast whatever it might be trying to balance all of these different wings or arms of your project and make them. Part of one cohesive brand can be really challenging. It's something that Katherine I challenge are challenged with quite often often but Juliane Andrew have found such a wonderful way of tying everything together making sure that it all fits making sure that it's always bringing value to who their audience and I think that's the most important part so hope you guys enjoy this one. I'll go ahead and turn it over to them where they're going to introduce themselves and they'll tell one random fact that we may not know about them from social media. Thanks for listening guys. Thanks for having US on I'm Julie WE ARE ONE OF CREDITING DOT COM. I'm Andrew and I don't have a good trying. I think what we try to do. Our best to kind of be as open as we can on our blog. We didn't at the beginning. But I think as we as the years have gone by. We've tried to be more open so we try not to. There's not many things that we don't share with everybody. I'm trying to think of the fun facts. I don't know not sure. Yeah I guess one fun fact is like you didn't really go to the parks until that's true. I kind of like you developed your lover Disney later. Yeah that's the surprise. Most people I didn't go till we got engaged. That was only about thirteen years ago so I wasn't a lifelong Disney. I growing up. It just Kinda came. As I got older I will share an effective about you guys. I don't know why I remember this but this is stuck with me. You posted once about. I think you're doing like milk. Prep or something and then you made it all and then you forgot to put it in the fridge or something right. I think he shared about that. Yeah I did that didn't i. Guess yes I forgot about that. I pack lunches and I make them quite a bit all once. I knew yeah so right after we moved here here I made a bunch of lunches. Just 'cause for me to make a tunnel launches all at once and taken work and I took them all and I think I went to bed and I left them all manner Downer. I woke up the next morning. They were probably a dozen or so lunches that are no longer good. Did the cats get in. So that's the real question. Did Not they were in their tupperware containers putting the freezer. They just never made it. That far Okay so that would argue knocking all of them. Yeah she would have found any way to get those open. So that she could indulge also. I'm sure ours went up in starting. We're looking around they. They just couldn't get into him. Thankfully yeah but that that lays a good foundation so we already know a little bit about your Disney story injury so you can start first. So what exactly is your Disney story. How did it evolve over time so I had gone back in College College for a quick trip? It wasn't really for some reason it wasn't really my thing. I just Kinda went. Did a couple of rides left But Julian I've been dating for a few years and her family was gonNA take a trip to Disneyland. They invite me along so it just happened that it was a perfect time to that I thought to propose So we we ended up going down spending a weekend. Disney propose pretty early in the trip and it was that trip. I just actually fell in love with everything Disney specifically park related and ever since that for some reason something clicked and I just love reading in China absorb everything I can about the parks and Disney and everything. So that's how mine long going. And then when I was growing up my family went pretty often. So does he was huge. Heard in my life Part McGinley slaved and then I had actually. I always thought I wanted to Disneyworld wedding since I was seven so it was kind of perfect but I I think I think just the fact that you propose there spent time like it kind of became Agra Gorman that became a part of our story so I think we just kind of grew with more new love Disney associated with our relationship. Good till so. We've got here. Where did you propose antisne? We gotta hear that story and so did you end up. I'm getting married getting married in the parks. Well yet so proposal when I walked in. I wasn't familiar with the park. I knew there was a task so that was about it so I actually. She didn't know where I was going to propose when we walked into the park so I was kind of looking around and I saw this quiet little place in the side so we ended up walking around identified the wishing. Well so just happen to be nobody around. We got her brother. Got a really neat picture of it. So that's kind of cool and it was just a perfect day as well so and Dan. Yeah we did get married Disney almost a year later exactly at the wedding nice. What a dream that is so fun? We were like a year and three days off of our day right exactly what we were three days. Yup January fifteen eighteen by any so great. And so I think that is wonderful foundations who had no kind of wear your passion where your love for the parks in for Disney comes from. So how did that lead into the Disney dink's kind of what conversations took place to get it off the ground where inspiration version come from. And how has it evolved over time. Yeah so I think You know when it started yet a lot of people ask us what. What is that your last name or you know But it's an acronym that stands for dual income. No kids so we had gotten a pointer light. We'd always we definitely become those Disney pros to a lot of people and people would ask US questions about the park sore Run Dizzy and stuff like that But then we aren't. We're also you got to this point. Where all of our friends are having kids and yeah we were kind of like a man like our social life is gone and we need to figure out like what we're doing with our life and I think initially our blog was gonna be kind of more of a personal thing kind of me You know we loved it in the NFL. Call ourselves outspread You know let's tell our stories but I think it got a better place with it quicker than we thought soon. It became more of wicked dizzy. Focus log and less about like our daily life. Yeah you know I like that. I think it's funny because because our friends started with that acronym so we're familiar with the dual income. No kids saying that. I could see how that could be confusing. But it's a very clever name in a definitely goes with like everything that you blog about and talk about that it's very. I like that all matches up together. We need a dink's thanks club will be your first sign up list our for sure so you talked about how it started as a blog log and then of course now we know. Of course you're on all kinds of social media in any also have the shop so kind of fill in that gap for us and kind of what. What are the pieces there that that helped it evolve and help it grow? I'm trying to think Are are brought actually started slowly. I think we I feel like grand ideas like opium all this stuff to talk about. Let's get some pictures. Let's write about it and then it was always. It's how we'll get to it. We'll get to it in like it would like time would go by and then it wouldn't be relevant and and yet we were definitely always getting our movie reviews beauts out but not really covering the content so I think it was. I WanNa say twenty seventeen when we're like okay. People like what we have to stay and we're really in cash in it so I think that's what we're like. Let's get serious and start schedule so I think around that time too. You're like what do we need to do. So started with other social accounts and stuff we started. We started pushing everything pretty hard as far as hey we need you know like you said we were just sort of doing doing it on the side and then we decided. Hey we've gotten a lot of to do a lot of cool things that's right about it you know. It started real hard when we spent some time in Disneyland and Alani and we said let's write about this. It's really Michael. A lot of people seem to have questions about that are right on it. We just got on a good roll and then we just we got into a good rhythm we were putting stuff out regularly And then the shot came along later You know Julie being a designer said hey you know. Some of the teachers didn't like or you know what's out there especially especially you're spending forty dollars on a T.. Shirt you know. We had a designer. Here's Julie sat down design a couple of shirts. Some people like them so he decided to you know. Start a shop uh-huh so there's just something fun on the side. One that our initial goal with the shock Ritz for also pilots pause. Yeah so that's where we're we're trying to figure out what to do with that just moving. We don't have the connections of the line. Corbett more believed to do pet rescues. So we're like I'm not able the shop was there and so we still quit claim more money into the pet rescues than we ever made off t shirts that for sure. Well it shows that your heart is in the right place. Yeah for sure. Could you explain a little bit more about that because I remember so for our listeners. We had lunch with Julian injure in Epcot. One day in the China Pavilion. We got to hear about this. I think our listeners would love to hear about kind of what that looks like where you were helping these pets. So I'd always want to be a pilot as a kid We got my pilot's license back in college ENDED UP NOT BEING PROFESSIONAL. I still like doing it on the side and I was always. I was looking for reasons to go fly places. I'd never been so a couple years ago. I came across. I think it was a flyer that said. Hey we're looking for people to just fly animals animals around lifetimes there rescues may be from national disaster like a Hurricane Carolina's last couple of years Or there was One where someone West Virginia had hoarded probably twenty some odd huskies. There's looking for a way to move them to move into places that could be adopted so basically you just sign up and say hey I can do this route. Um and we'd go fly pick up the animals and take them somewhere else And it was a really needed a way to just five places we'd never been before Indecent good it was really cool when you land People are very appreciative of what you're doing and I'm again. It all came out of our pocket but we love doing it and it was just A. It was kind of a way that we could give back as That's a little bit different And since I have the skill set I figured it was a good use of it. Yeah Yeah that's definitely not something that most people people can do. So you went to Julie whenever you would make the flights official co-pilot that doesn't know much about buying but the thoughts on the back. Yeah it was nice to have someone else to help with the animals in the back the dogs or the cats have who. Yeah I imagine that could get a little noisy. They enjoyed their flight experience. Yeah hope I'm excited to see kind of now that you're laying some found work in Florida. See what the next evolution of that will be so. That'll be really fun. So I wanNA talk about your shop really quick because to me at one of the biggest thing that stands out is that it's not forced at all so if you read your blog content you kind of hear your voices and hear how you experienced the parks and things that you're passionate about and things that you enjoy transitioning over to the shop you see those same themes you see. You know that it's not a design. That's a money. Grab or anything like that. It's things that you experienced daily early in the park. So are you are really excited about so. I just think that's a really great way to approach. That and that kind of how you went about doing. The designs is just trying to bring some of these ideas that you had your head to life. Yeah I thank God for me you know. We looked at a lot of shops. And I think there's you know there's a Lotta a familiar looking stuff on Oetzi You know people come with. come up with the q phrases and word lockups than a lot of places will be similar. So we we definitely only wanted to designs that maybe a little different. I mean at the end of the day. It's tough to do because there's only there's there's tons of Disney content but you know there are since the morons style tea like logos pretty simplistic modern looking wanted to have Are designed with that. So they're not full screen illustrated one but they're not just simple text either. It's kind of like that that balance of you know what's on different styles so just wanted to mention that differ people would like and different color options and yeah and I appreciate that because you know it seems like almost everybody has a shot nowadays. I love that people go after that in you know that's a dream that they pursue but there there is you know sometimes you'll look across a shop and you know it's the same phrase that you've seen a hundred different times on one hundred different pieces of apparel and and it's taking it a step further. It's making things they're applicable to you and your Phantom so I think that's pretty great. I think that's always a good plan. But since you do so many different things between like the social media and the blogging in the shop which one do you like best and how would you suggest that someone else kind of handles that when they may be have one part of their project that they want to continue to evolve still adding value to the other things that they're working on. Yeah it's it's tough because I feel like so many Tie into switch other like I a lot of our instagram bread. We carefully think of. How will this whole wall together On top consistent didn't like a theme of images but then like let's say we have a few images for star wars and they were doing blogs about star wars timing that with when we think blogs coming out and when we can post instagram That's where most of our audiences still like facebook interest income after that But sometimes it's it's it's one of the other like sometimes it's more important what we're putting on instagram versus other times. It's worth working driven by. What do we need to get on the blog and sometimes that's because we have like a hard deadline for something we know? We have to post this article. So that's dictate what stranded otherwise. Sometimes we have to use these things to instagram. So let's put something else on the log. That isn't heavily tied so for us. I don't know I guess we're still figuring that out and like juggle it all and we always sit down and it's kind of like playing tetris. Sometimes what what date for this relevancy. Yeah Yeah I mean what I hear from that is it sounds like priorities. He's drive your task list. And so I think that's a really great approaches. People are figuring these things out instead of just spending time on the things that are the most fun or are they easy as to. You know whatever it might be. You're sitting down. You're thinking hard about your priorities. And your deadlines and figuring out you know all right. What are we going to do two weeks from now three weeks now? Whatever that time frame is and honestly? That's something that we should adapt as well because right now very shortsighted and you just words trails. Still trying to figure out what we're doing tomorrow instead instead of looking further out but I think anybody who is trying to put more on their plate thinking about what the priorities are is probably a great way looking at it. So next thing that Kevin Hart we're talking about it before doing our research something that we find nine so impressive about you guys is your boldness and willingness to be able to put yourself out there especially for rans or products or in this case arrest Dr that we're talking about that. You're a big fan of that you're a raving fan of instead of just blasting it on social media. I think it's wonderful that you found ways to take it a step further and find ways that both the brand or the product that you're gonNa work with and yourself can create this mutually beneficial the partnership to be able to do things like sponsorships like you know paid ads. Whatever it might be that anybody's looking towards so I think that's is probably a daunting task for a lot of people? Can you give any advice on. How do you do that? How do you nurture that relationship in point out that? Hey even if we you don't have one hundred thousand followers. They're still something to be gained on both sides from something like this so i I think a bit were. We have done a pretty good job of being able to work with people that were passionate about. It's always easier. You put out a better product if you're passionate about who you're working working with or what you know what the product is anything like that. So Luckily we've worked with folks that we really light. You know you mentioned that any wine Bar Jordan. COUPLA wants to That we really enjoy going repeatedly and so I think it makes it easier for us. I think our contents better for it when it's something that we really enjoy on. I mean we get people contact us for stuff. That just doesn't Wine so I think we've learned you know you'll see some pages out. There were like product product product Where I think you know we definitely want it to be something that we care about right? Yeah we have looked at things and said no. Thanks just because we didn't feel like we weren't passionate about it. And and in that instance we feel we wouldn't be able to give our best if it's not something we're passionate about. So that's the one that's another reason or that's another way we select on. You know we work with and then I would say to get started. I'm sure like that's where a lot to keep are wondering We we lucked out in Maryland. We've been working at the studios for awhile so lead Got On this to go to screenings free so that was always something that we've done is Movie reviews and then so you just need to start somewhere So I know like another early brand. We work with with Lillian and Co the jewelry brand You know they reached out there. They're wonderful to work with And then I think you know you just start somewhere any start growing and what we really found over time is there's you know there's accounts that have tons of hours and there are some brands like oh we only want to work with you. Know an instagram or that. It has a gazillion followers. You're not worth our time. Whereas you'll find the other brands that they value all of us like micro influencers and what a lot has gone to? Is You know one of those. Bigger brands may just be like. Oh well. I'll do this post for you and really it has like a twenty four hour lay. You're you're looking at the the bulk of it minutes. You know it's there but not really where you know. We provide a whole package where the whole bog article. And then you know. People are Google researching a couple years done Ryan and they still come back article on. Its on pinterest. It's you know we want to make sure for doing something that we're providing you know really. Great indepth ended up writing good photography that's been edited you know. Seo Words just found that people are really grateful to work with us because we'll oh give so much Even if we don't have that huge following but someone with a huge following may not give them as much attention so yeah I think that's it's really encouraging because I feel like there's probably a lot of people who when they start out in her. Maybe looking for partners like that. They probably have that misconception that they have to be some kind mega like instant famous person and I think that's really refreshing to know that if you are willing to put in like that good quality work that you're talking about that there are are people who want to work with you and find the value in that so I think that's good advice just to a start with you know products Nick Sir groups that you are passionate about in NC. If there's something that can be mutually beneficial an and also I think just just trying in putting yourself out there who I think some people are like oh I you know. I don't have enough followers. I can't reach out but you just you never know like we've definitely had things were like. You know what let's just try head shoot them an email and then it's like. Wow you work with them now. So just you know keep you'll get some knows but it's worth it to keep trying and then the right right brand partnership Russia will happen. Yeah I mean it seems obvious but the word that probably was said more than anything during that discussion was passion. So things that you're passionate about so I think that's something that really needs to hit home with people that there has to be that connection weather at subconscious. Or whether it's glaringly obvious people will realize realized if it's something that you truly care about if you're truly trying to help the other side of this or if you're trying to get free products so you're trying to do XYZ EH whatever it is people sniff that out but if you have that passion it is one hundred percent genuine and it makes sense to everybody. Involved agree so the last thing that we are super excited to talk about Because I feel like it's every Disney lover's dream you. You recently made a big move. So you moved from Maryland to the Orlando area. How's that been? Do you have any advice. Regrets stories stories. What could we learn from you in that big move no regrets a little over five months now? Absolutely love it It is. We'd like to say we we wish earlier but it just so happened that things lined up and it was a perfect timing for it But but I definitely don't have any regrets. We have become very popular with friends and family though because we've had more visitors in the last since we've moved we've ever add before so that's one thing so any advice No I think You know I think it was funny because Orlando is actually we. We were talking to it. We were doing some like goal planning and it actually came up our five year plan. WHO has no? We'd like to move further south. You know whether it's Orlando or just we somewhere a little closer. Like maybe in the Carolinas and then everything blew up within like a couple months. Yup so so it's yeah it's a big thing to move across the country but if someone's really passionate about it it's you know you can find a way a way to do it and you know it's it's definitely hard it's been it's been a really awesome year but it's been a hard year to Just trying to find a balance and all the things eggs selling house buying house we do have to pace ourselves especially I moved here. We actually purposely didn't get our annual pass for about a month because we wanted to make sure that we had. We did the things that we had to do. Instead of just dropping the boxes that was one thing we made in Willamette limit. We're still trying to find a balance of we really want to go to the parks but you know this is home so there's things you have to do so we're still working that balance and we're trained invocation bowed. It's we're trying to learn that balance of being local. We don't have to cram everything into one Sunday. So here's my question for you. Do you find yourself going to magic kingdom. The least out of the four parks marks. Because you can't park right at the gate so I'm not sure we can answer that question accurately and the reason being is because we ended up getting the Mickey's not so scary. Halloween party pass. Oh Yeah for sure. Yeah I think we went like eight or nine times so if you take those out we've probably actually been to epcot more. The magic kingdom a lot of magic time for her break. I asked that just because that's a conversation we've had when we happen to have a car down there where riding with Catherine sister just the process of having to go to the T. T. C.. And then choose. Choose your mode of transportation over there. It's just exhausting when you can drive a be like five hundred yards from the front gate at any of the other parts. So I just mentioned with construction going around with the with the trams not dropping you off as close as they used to it the TC so even if you've gotten on the train to get off you still I'll have a walk and there's all the walls so steps that we do have Last time we're staying at the Polynesian so we just walked to to the TC most every time and every time you see the people off the tram and they looked so defeated because you could tell they were so disappointed that it may be took them A quarter mile an yeah. It's like not sure we take in the magic kingdom. Yeah we just walk every time. Yeah southern that you talked about how it's transitioned a little bit of how you experience the parks have you noticed any change in your blogs or your instagram or things like thanks come easier inspiration or you have to work harder. Anything can change get on the content side actually I I have something cool but we learned our first time at good wine this year and the way we sort of do instagram so we were the first time we went this year. And we what we're doing is every time we eat something we take a picture of it and we right like six or seven words a quick blurb of what we thought that was it and we just did that. Try to change it up where we turned out. The people absolutely loved that Instead of watching the video they can just take a quick making take look at it real quick. Just move on. They get to see a picture of and all that other those kind of cool to to know that there's different ways that people like seeing content and we just we just kinda stumbled upon it. It's it's cool to get more feedback from. I mean I think from a content perspective. It's it's been overwhelming Just because there's been so so much and I feel like our you know our our partnerships are growing our access to the park in the events that go on. It's it's been we. We actually now have more content than than we thought we could you know so that's where scheduling becomes even more important because we have plenty of content. Now we have to figure figure out. Okay what's the best way to put it out. We don't want to inundate folks with just one subjects. We have to learn how to space it out a bit kind of just picking more specialized allies things. I think it when we used to come down for a regular trip. You'd be like Oh you know what's cover something like the party Where now I feel like we're become exploring different things like I don't know like fireworks cruises things you never had time for before? Yeah and it's so funny that you mention that because that ties into two things. I was thinking about our friend Sarah Jeff who we both know from adults and Disney. They talked about how. Yeah I think it is their blog post about the fireworks cruise in the Magic Kingdom earned the whatever seventies again. Is that what it has that. That's like their most popular blog post by a long shot. And who would have ever predicted that until you get into that you start doing those more specialized allies things. You don't know what people are going to like that. You can try to predicted as much as you can but you gotta put it out there and see what happens and actually one quick note on that it was funny we we've also noticed over time. Sometimes you a blog post and it won't really have an initial Audience it's like very calm and this one's not performing very well but then funny enough it like more of the obscure ones like Vero beach all of a sudden it's now google traffic in its There's not much earlier each content out there so it's Kinda cool to when you have something like a blog that lives for a while. People are continuously. Find it even when it's stop fresh air but it's still relevant. Yup We have an old blog that we don't even maintain anymore and we haven't Alani Post on there and then I have it set up to send me the reports automatically. I still haven't turned him off and it'd be like all right this month. We got two thousand views on. It's like what like we're not. We're not even maintaining this. Its website anymore like how so. It's just it's so random in it's so hard to predict but that's a good problem to have to be at the park and be able to experience those more obscure things and and see what takes off get deal so we have loved this conversation so far it has been so much fun learning more but everything that you guys do you. So we're going to transition now. We're going to play the fast fast round because we gotta get to know more about your Disney fandom so we're gonNA throw out these topics if you can just kind of share. The first thing that comes to your mind so that listeners snooze can get to know your phantom better all right okay. So the first one's easy just named the Disney parks that you visited Disneyland Eh world and then this past summer we made it to Disneyland. Paris has definitely on our bucket list. So I know you guys have been Vero zero. Have you been to Hilton head as well. We finally made it this year. Hurricanes cancel at the last two years. We finally made it this year. We really like John. Yup gotcha chest and you said you've been to Al Alani as well so you get all the DVD ones as well. Yeah so of the parts that you visited which individual one is your favorite favorite. And why do so I would say. Let's I'll frame it differently if I can only visit one park work for the rest of my life. It might be Disneyland Paris. Yeah how dare. That park is amazing. some of the rides that you suggested all the parks that they have in my opinion the best version of I would probably say that. Yeah Yeah I think. That's that's a I. I don't think we ever had to Disneyland Paris. We haven't I always looked up. Cut like my whole life is like a cut cut cut But I don't know how I feel right now. I'm not much change. You have to regain KINDA WORKS OUT PENDING EPCOT DETERMINE I will say the little bottleneck that they put you into right now is like my living nightmare. uh-huh yeah yeah ticket out so next one on the list would be your favorite Disney resort and it doesn't necessarily have to be one that you've stayed at so it would be a lawn for sure hands down but if you're talking at one at apart let's say at a park that strict you can't compare that. Yeah he added a little bit different I would say Grand Californian I really Grand Californian I think my heart always has grand flirty into Lotta romantic romantic nostalgia. There will yeah. You can't beat that with since he got married there. That's I mean that's like a given. That's a good one though. Oh so the next one. If you could only fast pass one ride for the rest of your life which one would it be right now. Probably played a pass. I should be mine as well. That's not right that attractions amazing. It is one that you can ride over and Over again you notice something new every single thing and even just like if you turn and you watch other people write it. That's just as entertaining like if someone that you can. Maybe tell it's their first time writing it insane. Mind like those answers next one sticking with Rajin attractions in which ride or check. Strategic is due for an exit or refurbishment from the parks I will I'll give a weird answer. I want what I want the old soren back not a fan of the new one. I absolutely loved the old one over California. Yeah I do miss. A lot of the store never California for new scenes like the one where the golf ball comes at you is a classic you everybody always remember that. Oh yeah and I feel like a lot of people since they brought back the sworn over California for a little bit of DC. Yeah I feel like a lot of people were back on that bandwagon for sure the more authentic flying experience. Yeah how they like. You are all about. Yeah this the new one just seems kind of like a sightseeing tour. It's Chowk Shaw. Yeah didn't even think about that. The California makes more sense to like. You're actually actually do that. You're learning something new so the next one which land or area brings you the most inspiration. You'll nick for me I I always look look annecy land and I think that's just because since I was little that was always my favorite and I you know growing up all those movies and and just fantasy Hennessy. In Princess I think it takes me back to that place and I think just a lot of the original designs you like just knowing that you know Mary Blair worked on small world in. Walt was article out of those rides. I think for me. That's where I'm like. That's iconic vintage true Disney. I'm GONNA cheat a little bit. Say a pretty much all of animal kingdom and the reason being is because I find animal kingdom to be the most relaxing of reform parks in no matter how many people are in there. You can always kind of find a spot. That's a little bit a quieter. It just seems like a slower pace park and I think I just like that kind of atmosphere you. Speaking Catherine's language Vega Vega Animal Kingdom Fan. Everything about it. So Julian of I guess. So you've been to three fantasy land including Peres. Which one is the best one? In your opinion I think Paris is the most beautiful for sure I think. Didn't you land or I don't know like work. Assistant Ran Has Alice Wilson. I feel like my heart's Lincoln. The whole doesn't Yep when we were in I I was enjoying fancy land when we're in Disneyland. Within when we were we're in the queue for Alice and it was night time. And you're looking out over the mad tea party in all the lanterns were lit up. I was like this is the perfect. Seen like you can't capture this with a camera. You can't do it at all like this is the perfect spot. I agree with that. So what would be your favorite snack or go to snack in the parks so actually we went. We did this a star wars landing new galaxies They have a Rondo. Rest of that absolutely loved resupplies me because I didn't think I'd like it actually river or classic Disney Okra was at the lunch one or the breakfast one. Oh lunch one got you. We had breakfast not not Houston. I just saw a little weird to eat like a hotdog or breakfast. We should have had to lunch. Yeah that's what it felt like. No Sir no I mean. I'm a sucker heard they Richard Fleming give me something Mickey Shaved Humor happy McKee ice cream bar popcorn defined now that you're locals you eat less Disney snacks or do you still go for the snacks. When you're there yeah I think I think we do you? I do think we do less snacks. You know before it used to be a treat our only here or you know. We've gotta get the Mickey Rice crispy treats the take home. He's we're now it's you know it's there at any point now. The popcorn is very economically with us. Bills that's what we have now. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah so sticking with food. Was your favorite table service in favorite quick service restaurants in the park. I like By Brown underneath yeah. That's probably my favorite. We ate there once and it was amazing. Um quick shares. I don't know I like more of a quick survey Avci like I really like Morocco like Gum kebabs. I think rather than just like a burger who knows something. Yeah just a lot of a lot of restaurants at the resorts who accidents. I think shipments would be my choice in an working on. Neil now we still haven't been there now. That's definitely on our list of places so next one would be your favorite Disney movie enchanted who. I don't think we've ever had that one either. No I'm like the only person says it would probably be I love the pirates newbies but if I pick once private I want the black. The Black Roll Royce was going to say nobody said I think Rodrigues said Rodrigues loves pirates. Yeah I might have gotten that one before so the next one would be your favorite Disney quote who I think I mean will will the no the one on the back of our business card Adults are just kids grown up anyway. I feel like that's that's our mantra is pretty very much how we live. Yeah you like that one. Yeah that's a good one. We can very much relate to that for sure so very last question. I'm the throw two things out. Sorry if favorite Disney parks memory. You can't say your proposal or your marriage so I have one that when we so we've been disneyworld multiple times I'd never been to Disneyland And my first trip to Disneyland running Disneyland Hafner Hunt and like a mile three or four. You've already run through California adventure you run out in between the parts menu. Run right to the front gates of Disneyland so running down Main Street of Disneyland. The park was an open but that was the first time ever in a parking another wall had been and even though it was the race I was was in the parks and that was a really cool moment yeah. I'm sad that they don't do races there anymore. Maybe one day they'll bring it back out. Career I would say my favorite is when I got pixie dusted an animal kingdom. Yeah so there was a day that we were walking Over by the safari and these numbers came up in. I had a happy birthday. Button our lingo happy birthday and then join it. Come with us on a private safari. Sorry and we were like what so. They're they're the same crew that runs the This longer excursions like a the Africa track they just had So so yeah so they took us out for a little bit on our little trump and stockton told us more details about the elephants and it was funny. All this is gonNA privately famous people. That was really fun. That was that was one of those. Wow L. moments that you can't even replicate some. That's also love that and that seriously like a dream just to be able to do out even even just loved to do like the Africa. Track that we'd have to pay for but free private war on your birthday. That's what dreams are made of. Do I do have one more actually that we did a speaking of tour. We did the Torian Disneyland. I can't remember what they call it locking footsteps and we didn't know this until the end but a part of the Toro's we've got to go up into his apartment above firehouse. That was really cool to actually. That was really neat. Yep Yep was it was Phil Right that his son Sat. I guess. There's a chair looking out the window or something And Our friend Phil whose ear to their travel. podcast said that he turned turned his back in his son climbed up and sat in the chair. Yeah just like right after. They made the comment like no one sat in this chair since wall and then his time just like sitting. They're just like Oh what a wonderful memory of condoning that. You'll always remember that that's true running. So that's what I look for whenever we do that tour eventually. Yeah is the chair. The chair where Phil Sunset. So the very last question for you guys is if you give one piece of guidance that you give to someone who's looking to jump into this community either as a content creator or maybe they won't open open up their own shop. What would be your advice to that person I would say? I think you know the Disney community is awesome. I feel like more people. We need the more relationships we have. And and sometimes that's what it's all about. You never know when so and so we'll introduce you to this this person that You know I think that's just a good way to kind of think about things And just I mean in a lot of this creative content is is a lot of work on so once again it comes down to passion like you have to make sure it's something you really like doing. And no one is getting into belonging to you know. Make a ton of money just overnight real quick. It's suffering a journey so you have to enjoy it you can't you should go in with the passion that you really are. You know you really WanNa do this And we're passionate about what we write about. Two weeks shoes. Things that we know are really going to enjoy. Enjoy writing about So yeah and just enjoy it just a you know keep keep going keep doing people. People get hung up on numbers and stuff. But if you stay out it it's just going to continually grow and then now your work back. Wow We're far that we've caught so yeah that's all excellent advice so I think you guys so much for sharing that. I know probably somebody needed to hear that. So I appreciate you guys putting that out there for them so thank you guys so much for. This interview has been so much fun getting to learn more about your project So if you can remind our listeners where they can connect with you guys I online. Yep So our website is the Disney dot com the I N S And in exclusively or handle her muscle. Instagram is at the Disney. Dink's our facebook is the disease tanks pinterest dizzy. Dink's yeah so I guess what you'd snagged up. Yeah very easy to remember. But that's good people like easy so like Brennan said. We're really happy that that we can finally make this work since it feels like forever since we actually sat down and met in Epcot that is a lot of fun catching backup and we're excited to see. What else do you guys do in? The future out answers was fine. Yeah thank you for listening to detour to Neverland. Subscribe described the show and leave a review to help more people find US follow us on instagram at detour to Neverland underscore podcast to see are pictures from the park's see the euro soon.

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The surprising success of Covid-19 travel bans

Worldly

46:14 min | 2 weeks ago

The surprising success of Covid-19 travel bans

"Hi i'm every woman. And i wanna talk to you about the stories. You don't see under news feed trending on twitter stories about our collective quarantine drinking habits about sexting about what it's actually like to run for office and even an honest conversation about king. I host the cut of podcast from new york magazine where we seek to have the conversations you care about but aren't hearing anywhere else. We'd love for you to join us. Listen to the cut for free every wednesday on spotify or in your favorite podcast app. A lot of countries like the united states the coronavirus pandemic has only gotten even like a little under control after the introduction of vaccines and other places like india. The viruses rampaging out of control but in vietnam. There's only been thirty five deaths from krona virus thirty five. That is not an understatement. It's not thirty five thousand. It's literally thirty five total deaths. So what if vietnam do right. And what lessons can that have for. Places in the world today that are still dealing with significant outbreaks. That's what we're gonna talk about today on worldly part of the vox media podcast network. I'm zac each here with john. Williams and alex ward. That's normal you're all used to it. But we've got a special guest today to talk about vietnam julia blues. Who is fox's senior correspondent covering health. Hello julia hello. Thanks for having me We're very excited to have juliane. Not only because she wrote a an excellent piece about the vietnamese experience in a big. Vox package on lessons. Learned during the pandemic but also because she's coming to us from austria as alex did for a period of time making an extra special worldly episode in a number of different senses. So we're very pumps to to be having this international conversation today But i guess probably we should start talking about vietnam now your piece. Julius centers on one particular policy area seems to have been really successful for vietnam border closures. Tell me what they did and how it was different than the border closures that we saw in the united states and elsewhere so many many countries have put in travel restrictions and different types of border closures in this pandemic so it was the second most common policy responsive governments have used When when the started spreading last year but would vietnam did that was quite different and only a few other countries. Mostly islands have done. Is it essentially sealed hermetically sealed. Its borders. so we're not talking like you know you can't come here if you're from a certain country with an outbreak or you can only come in if you do this voluntary quarantine for two weeks. We're talking like canceling all commercial flights. Anyone who came into the country had to get special permission from the government If you did get on a repatriation play you had to you. Were literally at the airport. There's this scene in the story where we worked with local reporters there because he again you get into the country and they went to the airport to meet a repatriation flight arriving from paris so everyone is in mike. Blue gowns masks like head coverings. They look like they're just coming from a bio safety hazard lab and their ferried directly to a quarantine facility that there's two options these state run quarantine facilities or a hotel quarantine but in both cases. You're not leaving the room. You're surveilled and you have to wait out amid sometimes it's been up to twenty one days and then you're tested multiple times and then released from quarantine and so it's like taking travel. I travel restrictions on steroids. I just want cave compare that to be. I haven't traveled anywhere. I went to the grocery store for the first time a couple of weeks ago so that was exciting. Probably it's a big deal. I got dressed up. It was like a whole thing by that. I mean i put on pants so but you know if i remember correctly like it took a while for the us to even do things like you know at airports actually like checking temperatures and things like that for people or testing. You know making sure that you had your test and had tested negative coming into like what what it was it kind of like in the. Us like compare that to what it looks like when you. I know land in at jfk. Airport or something like that. So we know actually just had friends who flew from london to new york and they went in on global entry so they didn't have to talk to anyone. They were questioned leaving heathrow about they're they're married with a child and they don't have the mas naming had to provide documentation. 'cause he's american ngos in that there are there are a couple and i think they had to provide a negative. Pcr tests in london but then they entered the us. No questions asked. And there was only a suggested quarantine period has so you didn't have to not a mandatory corden so in other words you weren't dawning like full-on. Pp and and very deny state bus to like a a monitored quarantine cloudy but i think the big contrast is by march twenty twenty vietnam basically did what i just described the closed themselves to the world and what we're seeing in europe and in the us was this still dislike targeting of restrictions at countries. Where there were outbreaks. So you know chinese travelers travelers from italy travelers from meuron on these countries that had a lot of covid spread many places. We're still taking matt tactic and vietnam was like nope. We don't want anyone coming in the way to think about it. I think is This targeted restrictions versus like a total travel ban which was unprecedented in china. Started to do this with the quarantine of wuhan in late. January twenty twenty. You know everyone was saying. It's a human rights violation and we're not going to see other countries follow suit and of course international travel restrictions ended up being hugely common but vietnam anonymous is on the far end of what countries have been doing. I guess i'm surprised a bit by why this seem so radical i mean i'm not denying that basically shutting off an entire country off like is a major step but the seams on its face like the obvious course of action. Like why wouldn't you shut yourself off from the world doesn't that most that seems like most obviously to the pandemic from spreading i remember in the. Us you had the former president trump branding like. I shut off flights from china. We're all good and yet you know it could still come in from europe or canada or mexico or wherever in like there's a reason island countries have done really well right because you can just basically say no flights coming in. No one's gonna come in by land borders or even some sea borders and it contained. It seems to me that vietnam just purposely made itself in ireland and it worked. I'm surprised i guess that other nations didn't do that like i get that. There was a concerns of well. It's going to be harder for aid to get in. It's going to be harder for other kinds of assistance to get in. But i'm alone and you can tell me if i'm crazy here but i remember thinking of being in the pandemic. Why isn't everything just completely. Shut down obviously as you know on the worldly podcast. The world is just highly interconnected right like people cross borders everyday for work. There's like mass migration obviously trade and and there's many costs to completely shutting down Vietnam made this calculation that basically said like we can't afford to do europe in particular has done and you know like pay businesses to close down and support all these people whose jobs and we can't afford to overwhelm the health system and they bet that closing borders they would be able to save the domestic economy and the ended up being right Their economy grew by two point. Nine percent in twenty twenty. But i think a lot of countries like looked at those trade offs and you have to remember right in in even last march through still discussions and there there are still discussions now about whether herd. Immunity is the cracks strategy. And whether you know how much of a threat does this virus really pose last march. It was like we're seeing the northern italian hospitals system become overwhelmed and there were these questions of like. Can this really happen here. Is there something unique to italy. There was a lot of denial. And i think i it is a political question right. How how much acceptance was will be in the population of like a total border closure if this ends up not being the threat that some people are saying it is. What's interesting about vietnam. So obviously they share this border with china ad they have a highly like fraught relationship with china lots of mistrust and so this proximity is also what i think causes them to snap to action pretty quickly and say We can't mess around. And they're also reports that they had intelligence from wuhan so that they had been basically yes spying on on the government and maybe they knew things that other countries didn't know at an earlier stage and that might have also been why they acted pretty quickly. I want to sharpen the contrast here That julia's drawing between vietnam. And everyone else. Because ain't there are two points that are worth emphasizing as to why this policy ended up being relatively unique say relatively. It's not the only country that trump borders but one is that it's not just a border with china or access to intelligence. it's that vietnam and china have a pretty fraught relationship hostile political relationship. He's china with real justification as a significant security threat and is just more likely a lot of other east asian countries to be skeptical of narratives. That are coming out of beijing as this being not such a big deal. You don't have to worry about it. We have a contained whereas even in the early days trump a famous china public facing rhetoric was like. Oh yeah president. Gee he told me he's got a covered so he's got a covered right and the other part of it Which he gets into a little in the piece is that the revealed wisdom of public health experts at the time. Was that border. Closures aren't particularly effective. This os to experience with previous diseases like Sars and he bola and it seemed. In those cases that limited border restrictions didn't work the difference between vietnam and these past cases. Is that vietnam. Shut down everything as opposed to just trying to apply targeted travel ban looking at particular countries. Which is why the us tried for example in its particular experience. So that explains why this outcome worked and then the third thing sort of more of a question for the table than anything else is. It seems like it wasn't just the the travel ban itself sound like you shut down borders and everything that's fine. It's the travel ban enables envious right. It's that when you have so few people coming in. It allows you to more effectively contact trace quarantine. The people who do end up testing positive to prevent anyone who's bringing in the disease or domestically who gets through some other kind of community transmission means from from causing outbreak totally and before we talk about the domestic response. I think it's worth saying a little bit about this past experience. So what we saw in west africa twenty fourteen twenty sixteen ebola outbreak where we saw in the sars pandemic and and basically with every pandemic threat of like the flu swine. Flu yup the evidence that we had from these previous outbreaks was that not only did these targeted restrictions not work. They came with enormous cost. The is that were already. You know trying to respond to attend. we'll break. They drove cases underground so people found ways around them. You know like. Let's say slights from toronto to paris. Were shut off. Well you would then fly to london and then go directly to toronto and just lie about your your place of origin so they drove cases underground in the in the case of the west africa break. They made it hard for for aid workers and resources to request africa. So we saw these arms than we didn't see the benefit of of actually controlling importation of disease and i and many others made the mistake of extrapolating from that evidence to to the coronavirus at the beginning of the outbreak. Because it seemed completely unfathomable countries would do would vietnam and a few others have ended up doing and something that also proved to be effective. Yeah i like it's really important in the whole hindsight is twenty twenty thing here like i think. That's a huge point. Is that at the time like we didn't know then all the stuff we know now about how the pandemic was going to play out about. How even how the virus really spread. We thought it was spreading mostly like on surfaces and people touching things like in restaurants and passing the salt and thinking that the germs that way remember we went through the whole like cleaning everything all the time. People like scrubbing their vegetables. Because we didn't really know that it was primarily through the air and like i remember to just myself thinking early on i remember seeing. Will julia reading your pieces early on about this strange. You know pneumonia like illness. That had started to spread in china. But like you're one of the early ones reporting on this. And i remember thinking like. Oh that's that's really bad. It's going to be you know that could potentially be like a bad virus outbreak for region right. I kind of thought of it. Like it's not gonna come here because you know we've heard about other ones like zeka and sars and like they know they had outbreaks spread right like their spurs middle. East tour is there. But i remember thinking like there's no way like not that there is no way that i've heard it before and it was all scary before but it never really materialize in the way that we thought into a global outbreak. So of course. This one's going to go the same way but like we were all operating under the assumption that all you can do is extrapolate from previous experiences right. So it's not enor- defense. i i think it was. It was wrong to do that. Because what else can you do but try to go on what you know so far at and hope that that works. But i think that's the thing that also in your piece is really interesting. Is that part of the experience. Also seems to be part of. Why vietnam did this early on. 'cause they remembered like previous outbreaks had spread to them very quickly and so they're like nope. Shut it down. A couple of things like this idea that this physical proximity to countries like this idea that you know vietnam is so close to china. And of course. Like there's this heightened sense that the virus could show up there really quickly spin out of control in talking to people. I can global world. We really need absorb that you know you hop on a flight and would twelve hours later. You're you're in new york. From from beijing or whatever it is and and you're you're potentially carrying virus with you and vice versa. You know the places that we go were bringing potentially bringing. Health threats are introducing. Um does he is in these new places. And the world is really small now and and One of the lessons of the pandemic is that you know health threats. It seemed distant can show up on our doorstep and in in our homes really really quickly if we don't properly plan and then this question of like when when do when do you call it back. Then the media and the who and political leaders were absolutely completely Lambasted her like shit august. You could say shit on that. That works effort for overreacting to swine flu. That didn't end up being a big threat and it was like you know. The media hyped it and You know that political leaders overreacted in scared the population and stockpiled drugs. That we didn't end up meeting. And so there's a real Cost to calling it too early and in reporting the peace one of my sources said to me like there's something like two hundred pathogens every year they could go pandemic do shot your borders down to everyone and we know now from the vietnam experience at these border closures. Only work if you put them in before or after community transmission takes place so the virus is already spreading widely. They're not going to be as effective. And how do you call that right. So so they. They work the best when the measure looks the most. Like extreme overreaction so yeah it's a tricky one to calibrate like another thing people brought up was hey like the next time. There's a pandemic threat like just think that the answer is closing our borders. The pathogen might have different properties where it's not as effective for whatever reason You know and again. There are cost to closing borders. So so it's a. It's a really really complex thing to respond to to these emerging infections. A lot of things i let me get my conspiracy theory out of the way which i know up in finding today boy. Alex jones over here. Maybe it's because i've been inundated with bad news. I just have a lot of trouble. Believing that the cases word that low roughly twenty eight hundred and then only thirty five deaths. Vietnam's government is not known for being transparent and like real and the same way that i don't really trust chinese numbers by really don't trust china's numbers i kinda. Don't trust view. Now's numbers It's possible i openly concede that it's could be completely true and i'm just like in disbelief fee of how successful it was but i just i can't shake this feeling that there's something a little wrong with the numbers but it is undeniably drew that like live in vietnam. Gone back to a bit of normal. So i'm probably wrong but just i had my tin foil hat on so i'm going to just act like it's worth stating right. It's a single party government. It's a repressive government. One thing guys zach. You wanted to talk about the domestic respond to the this extensive contact tracing program so they have you talk to people in vietnam. They talk about the f. that f. zeros the ones and twos so they're zeros. Index cases and then f ones the immediate context enough to one rung out and they trace all those contacts and they immediately isolate the f. Zeros in hospital the people who test positive in hospital they monitor the quarantine of the immediate contacts. They put them in a quarantine facilities and they can do that. Because you know they have this. They spy on their population. And there's like an intense surveillance apparatus. There that's enabled this this rigorous contact tracing program. So yeah definitely these things go hand in hand it is worth saying like they had three waves so they have had cases they have had outbreaks but they rapidly brought them under control and we didn't come across like working with reporters they're talking to Like the world bank talking to these other groups. That are situated there. Everyone said life is an unless you're in a place where someone is just tested positive where they do these targeted lockdowns. Life is normal. Children are in school. They're hugging their grandparents. People are in restaurants. They're going to bars I was so jealous talking to people in the because they always had like friends over the night before and dinner parties and birthday parties and the reporters. I was working with would share. Like you know we were Out drinking with our friends last night in sharing shots and having one you have know. And i think like the way to think about it is. This border can so effectively. Do things like contact tracing because they have so few cases so like western countries have basically for the most part i think either never tried it or gave up because cases were case numbers were just too big and Yeah you can. You can have a domestic response That detailed when you've controlled the number of cases in the country that just sounds like a sweden networked the different. Because you didn't write. Method is like sweden and tried to have it. all in vietnam gets to have it all. It seems because actually did the right things early and often. Yeah that's what. I and the other thing that came up with this question of governance The people who've done these analyses on like you know is it. Just that is this a majority government. That's the reason for success. But they have trouble finding like it's not a consistent link that that explains a country's success and what i kept hearing again and again was like they justed the right things in public health. They tested massively from the beginning they did contact tracing they. They did enforced and supported isolation. They did all these measures that we've been talking about for months and we know work and they were supported by this border closure. Yeah it it. I mean it strikes me if you look at other countries that are successful especially in the asia pacific like south korea or taiwan or new zealand right. You can see some elements of the vietnamese response. Vietnam combined all them together in a specially effective way but the countries i just listed for deliberately for reason democrat countries. This isn't just like a policy that was enabled by repressive regime. It's that a repressive regime as you just put it. Julia did the right things. And speaking of that. Where we're gonna take a quick break when we come back. We're gonna talk about what lessons we can learn from the vietnamese experience going forward in the pandemic. if any if there's anything that can be done to replicate the stuff at the elite stage wherein in for the rest of the world. hi. I'm every woman. And i want to talk to you about the stories. You don't see under news. Feed trending on twitter stories about our collective quarantine drinking habits about sex thing about what it's actually liked to run for office and even an honest conversation about i host the cut of podcast for new york magazine where we seek to have the conversations care about but aren't hearing anywhere else we'd love for you to join us listened to the cut for free every wednesday on spotify or in your favorite podcast app i'm pre- berrara former. Us attorney for the southern district of new york and host of the podcast stay tuned with pre stay tuned with breed and other cafe. 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We have been talking about vietnam remarkable success and win the coronavirus pandemic at how they've been able to keep life at in some ways a relatively normal pace through a combination of extreme travel restrictions and really intense public health measures and turn things contact tracing right so now we want to talk about whether or not there any lessons from this. That are applicable to other countries. Right now who are still grappling with serious outbreaks So to my mind. Julia the big one right now. The one that everyone is talking about is india Which we may tackle on on a future show because the scale of the outbreak. there is truly mind boggling. you mentioned earlier. That part of the reason that china didn't have a ridiculous number of cases even despite being the source of the outbreak. it's because they isolated wuhan relatively effectively. I'm wondering if there's anything that can be done like that to take a kind of internal domestic focused travel restriction testing response in a place like india that suffering from a serious outbreak. Or whether it's too late already there's this community spread across the country and there's nothing that you can do to try to control it in the way that travel restrictions control things. Would you touched on. His absolutely cracked like wuhan was so early. In the pandemic basically the analyses of the domestic restriction in wuhan suggests that they delayed spread to the rest of china and the rest of the world so they bought the world time time that like not enough countries used so that was one thing that also came up in the vietnam response. They actually used that time. That china bought the world But now like india what we already have the virus obviously seated around the world We've already seen outbreaks linked india around the world for from travelers and the domestic situation is sort of control. Now i think obviously domestic public health measures can work. But when you have community transmission. That's that rampant just imposing travel restrictions is do much Or the earliest. That's what it looks like. We've learned so far about the coronavirus in the use of these measures. And i think the idea there now. Is that what what can help is vaccines and obviously. There's a vaccine shortage so we're seeing like you know what is the world's richest countries have purchase more than fifty percent of the vaccine stock in the world's poorest like nine percent and the country like india needs more vaccine. I think there's also point. There are longtime worldly friends and sometimes guest hosts john kirby to a really great piece on what his could have led to this huge outbreak Second wave in india and she and another of our reporters on the science team. You're on have a piece coming about what you know. India can do and some of the lessons here but one of the things that they found in their reporting and the gen found is the issue of political will right and i think that in part goes back to the conversation so we had in the first half about responses and overreactions and costs including economic costs to these hardcore lockdowns. That could i could see them. Doing full on lockdown in some of the cities in india where the the spread is really a particularly bad. But there's absolutely no political will to do that and beyond that. The outbreak itself is being caused because they thought they essentially had it under control and they kind of got complacent and like prime minister. Narendra modi was. His party was holding political rallies. Mostly unmasked and allowing religious festivals took images. You huge gatherings of tens of thousands of people to happen and not saying. Hey maybe stay home. So i think you know going back to kind of the the issue of governance here you also actually have to have a government that is on top of it and that is willing to make those decisions be it a democracy like new zealand or you know a repressive regime vietnam somewhere you need to have someone at the top who is saying we are going to make the call. We are going to do this and i think that's one of the issues that we're seeing here. Is that the politics of this is really fraught from country to country and it. It's really hard and we've seen it here in the us. Right with you know. Texas early on lifting the mask mandate while a lot of public health. Experts are saying not a great idea. But they're saying oh well we're going to do it because we can. And so. I think in india Contexts like we can talk about things that might work. But that's all well and good unless they're going to actually try them. I found it fascinating that the farmers protests that we've talked about on the show actually didn't seem to lead to didn't seem to be super spreader. Events didn't seem to win farm back to their territories didn't seem to add too much. I mean i'm sure there's some but that was one of the potential culprits here and it turns out that for as far as we know it really wasn't the case i will mention a piece. I did on india and it's locked down back in march twenty twenty when right when remote. He put on a multi week lockdown at the country. But what doctors in india told me. Here's one told me. He said we expect fifty. Five percent of the indian people will get covid nineteen infection three hundred to five hundred million cases over the next four months. If the current disease trajectories anything to go by. We expect one million to two million deaths in india over a one year period. Now that didn't come to pass by the way. I should know right because it's been more than a year but what i've gone back to him and others and they basically said like there's been a delay 'cause it was initially political will and there wasn't and so there was sort of a stopping of what the trajectory was at the time of the delayed this process of anything. It's like those catastrophic numbers we. We may see them now. Maybe bring it to sort of a broader context. I find it fascinating This is a a point. Our colleague dylan matthews made sharply on twitter. But it's something i've been wrestling with for awhile. Which is like. It's kind of amazing to me that we haven't really had a broad discussion. Not even like not even well in the us for sure. But broadly like you know we had nine eleven and our entire foreign policy and our entire stance on the world change to recently counterterrorism. there wasn't underwear bomber. We all take our shoes off at the airport here. We have five hundred thousand dead in america and like millions dead around the world and like we're not really having a conversation about how do we safeguard against the next thing. We were talking about lessons. Learned from this one and like what we might apply when the next pandemic comes because they're likely will be an ex pandemic and i have to sort of fears one. Is you know we always tend to fight the last war. Right to use jargon that people military doc me about all the time like we might take some of these lessons from this pandemic and applied to the next one and they might not be as effective because everything is a little different there are always some overlap but might not be the right playbook and then the other aspect here is. We're not really changing anything about our our local or global governance systems enough or you really having the conversation in my view to protect against the worst Were sort of a thing to get through right. I wanna get through this. I get my vaccines. I can go out drinking again and hang on my family. Which by the way. Great impulses like i get that. I'm feeling too but i don't think we're having this serious discussion to actually get ready for what's coming next i i. This is not the awakening. I had hoped for like if this was all bad right but it was one good thing. I guess we're supposed to do good things. One was sort of more global cooperative movement which we did not see right vaccine nationalism and all that and then just like a broader preparation. Because we don't want to go through this again. am i missing. Something or is like you alex. Just so i'm clear what you're calling for his g. wop a global war on. I want you up. Okay got it now. That i i has a really a really good point. It's kind of in the spirit of the project that the julia europeans contributing to write a broader. Vox on what we can learn from the experience of this pandemic it's called pandemic playbook check it out at vox dot com all right. Sorry we'll do it in the show jury plug we got to. We love our colleagues work really proud of of julius peace and these other ones but it really is the case that in a lot of countries a lot of the pandemic restrictions the us obviously You know the number one example here. Pandemic restrictions became politicized during the lockdown periods before vaccination was widely available at. It still isn't for a lot of countries And even then the vaccines themselves are aside to a degree right and so it makes you wonder right. Like to what extents. It's possible to do what alex is just describing in a political environment where proposing something like. You know a preventative version of the vietnamese strategy. There's another thing that seems like it might be really really bad again. You just like locked out. All of our borders right away right that plays into a number of different political factions opinions. On how you handle and deal with the potential for a pandemic some curious. Julius as if as you've been thinking about like the lessons of the vietnamese experience you thought at all about like how this plays into broader political dynamics that have surrounded the pandemic globally and and the way in which these restrictions become part of the sort of contours of political conflict. I think like wouldn't one thing. They became so obvious reporting on vietnam of the only just started to roll out the vaccine in february in health workers So months after the. Us and the uk and other countries were well into their vaccination effort and this like this willingness in a country that didn't have as many resources as places like the us uk israel to just like let the virus run rampant and mess around with it. They they used these well-tested old fashioned public health restrictions. You know the population made sacrifices and they seem to have paid off in this case of this particular virus and where whereas we're seeing in other countries like the us in particular this like unwillingness to to give up know personal liberty and freedom or whatever the tend to not want to wear it to not want to have to wear masks to not wanna have to stay home from church or football but did not want to give up on these events that are so important to people for at least a period and then to look to a new health technology and invest billions in it. And like you know wait for the new technology being the vaccine and we're seeing obviously it seems to be paying off right now in in the us and the uk But after at the cost of millions of people sick and dead and so if if other countries had kind of you have been more willing to make those trade One interesting thing was talk. Talking to europeans and americans who are based in vietnam but like when when they travel back to europe or talk to their families back home. They all said like we're living. We feel in vietnam like we're living so much more of a free life than our families because yes we go. We have to go through this mandatory quarantine period when we enter the country but then we basically had a normal life year for the last year whereas our families. They can't see each other. They can go into the office and see their colleagues. They can see their grandparents like they've been living this kind of life of fear and is over the last year and so i wonder like f- going forward people will be more willing to make those sacrifices but now now that we've seen this like delayed vaccine payoff even after there have been so many cases and deaths and the us to credited come up with Incredibly effective actually. I guess they were developed partially in europe. The west did did come out with these. Like incredible you Us a us operation warp speed. But alex it's about fighting last war it's such an important point to one. Big reminder is that different pathogens posed different health threats. They transmit in different. What works for the coronavirus might not work for the next thing that poses a threat test. And so how do we take what we learned and then take like these measured ineffective responses next time. He's really tricky. And i think it's also what we struggle within climate change right. It's like this. Many of us are like increasingly the effects of the warming. But it's still feels like this is abstract future threat that is hard to kind of like muster. The political collective political will to do a needs to be done for mud can happen in five years or twenty years so but yeah the next pandemic is around the corner and that's what people in global health saying for the last. I don't know how many years since i i guess maybe belon- and many health threats before that that were overdo overdo overdo and it did still seem like this abstract thing. Yeah i think about this point about whether we are going to make radical changes to our lives to prevent the next pandemic or you know next other health outbreak and i think about myself and very narcissistic apparently. But you know with masking right. Like many countries in east asia in particular people wear masks anyway even when there's not a pandemic when they're in public if they're sick they have a cough or whatever who pollution. Yeah also pollution. But it's kind of like you know if you go on the subway or the metro and you know to avoid just kind of out of a sense of community in to avoid spreading germs. You put on a face mask and you know i think about myself and and how much you know wearing a face mask has become just like standard protocol for me and it's just like what i do and yet we know that it seems to have helped like with the flu right even when cove it is is gone even though it may never be gone and may still be out there spreading at some level but we still have the flu every year rate and masking would probably help a lot with cutting down on the spread of the flu every year and yet as soon as like my vaccinations were done i was like dumb this mask like i already forgot like yesterday. I was walking into the grocery store. And i was like half way to the door before i realized the door of the store for i realized i had forgotten to put my mask on and like it was that fast after a whole year of lake obsessively wearing a mask for me to forget and so i think about that. Like it's it's hard to change human behavior right. It's not. I think it does take political. Well it does take a long time. You know i think about the the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic in no way that you know. Things changed slowly culturally and even in terms of like architecture and housing an air conditioning units and things like that. A lot of things change because of that that experience. But i don't know if that's going to happen this time around right like are we going to remastering flu season right. I started thinking about. Like if i start to get back on the metro reopening or like two years from now what i put on a mask or would i feel like i was being weird and like our people to stare at me and thinking weird. If i wear masks like if it's just that one individual thing like how do you do better society based on the bar. I saw last night. I think people are done with masks rightly right just like a viscerally i. I've been to korea and japan a lot like in the last four years. And when i take the subway like i'm one of the few and it's usually foreigners that don't have a mascot like no one looks at you weirdly because they sort of your foreigners in. You're not into masks but like that's just kind of it. Where like here. It's it's weird to wear ma. Maybe not dc dc's very programs but like there have been other places. I've been to like my folks live out in the boonies and wearing a mask. There areas like people. Look at you like really. You're you're doing that here. It's a fascinating contrast it's culture roll. It seems like. I'm not trying to brought a brush but like it seems to be like is ingrained in a culture so i. I don't think you're wrong. Feel like mask off. It's time i mean heck the cdc gave out its guidance like they were pretty clear about like. Here's where you can wear mask and here's what you can't and like nowhere. Did they say maybe just considered it in general in your daily life there was just like you don't have to wear this face prison anymore. You're good face prison. That's the thing about how how quickly it seemed. Totally absurd for people and yet what western countries were masks. And then how quickly that change did seem so like luhan under lockdown district conan measure that we've never we haven't seen in in we've never seen a country do what what china did with ruhan back then and then look at all how every country followed suit and how we all lived the last year locked down the idea. I think these things can change it. I guess one lesson from the pandemic playbook is so obvious you know the virus was more or less the same everywhere right but these political decisions made a huge difference and maybe maybe they'll be more tolerance from the public four overreaction in the future this always the tricky thing with public health you don't see the benefits of it when it works right so like if everyone went the way of vietnam last year. Maybe we wouldn't have had this global pandemic but then maybe we'd be writing snarky articles about the way people did with them swine flu which was a slightly different scenario. But i'm talking about what overkill that was at how the media was hyping. This and scaring people in how politicians you know acted absurdly. I think about that point all the time. It's like a generalized problem in policy analysis. Right like say the two thousand eleven libya intervention right. We talk a lot about the negative consequences of that but we can't know the hypothetical world in which the us didn't intervene and craps predictions of like widespread slaughter of civilians would've turned out to be true. And so you have this weird debate over that particular military action right now where people are saying. Look at the bad thing that happened in other people are saying well. Yes that was bad but look at the hypothetical alternatives. They probably would have been worse. And it's ultimately resolvable you just sort of have to make your best guess and it's particularly acute in the in the case of pandemics because as we've seen they're kind of all or nothing affairs or if you don't stop the pandemic early on or the the disease that could become a pandemic the entire world suffers in a way that none of us. I think i can speak for all of us. Plainly maybe not usually because your health reporter but none of us thought we'd experience. I think i think alex probably did. He's been super super freaked out about this for a while just knowing stories that he's pitched in his defense. Alex been warning about this for a while to. I just didn't think anything like this fair enough. I speak no. I did i was i was super word dip. It's like a big thing on like we should actually be fearing the next pandemic and not the blast. But she was like. I don't think this is going to be a thing. No okay. that's not super fair f. You're very kind to be well. It's not just done if she was not on on board but it was like a really hard to get people to care about these things for sure and even like readers didn't care as much like we saw this explosion interested in covert articles when we were already when colvin was already running rampant in the us. These things seemed like abstract distant threats until suddenly they're not writing suddenly Yeah we haven't seen our families down here or traveled anywhere and like drastically changed our lives. But then i'm totally with you that it's really easy to forget these lessons like i remember talking to the senior public health person some midway through the pandemic. And you're saying someone should write an article about the death of handshakes and then Europe last summer like completely relaxed and and everything opened up again and everyone was like hugging and shaking hands and it was like there was no global pandemic happening anyway. So yeah taste is really interesting. But i'm i'm hopeful. Like what one i was talking a researcher yesterday about this the inequities in vaccine access that we're seeing. He was calling for something. Like a far which is the george w bush shum hugely successful programme to combat aids in other countries and since two thousand and three they've given out something like ninety billion dollars toward aids and aids one disease that really got elevated on the political agenda for a number of reasons and a rich country like the us said. Hey like we have to show leadership here. We're going to put tons of money into fighting this disease and so that shows you what can happen. When and obviously uh that that we we go from being a life sentence into just like a chronic illness but just a chronic illness. It's really serious disease but something that people live with now because of that the scientific and political will that went into fighting it and maybe Maybe we will learn something and we will see that same kind of investment in colbert and in future pandemic threats. So we're gonna leave you with that rarer bit of worldly optimism. 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Toxic: A break in the Cuomo fever dream

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Toxic: A break in the Cuomo fever dream

"Welcome to the kicker on call. Pope editor publisher of the columbia journalism. Ready this week covering andrew cuomo. So it's friday midday. This thing is moving fast but where we are now is that there are two people who have come forward to former employees on with sexual harassment allegations against the governor third woman whom he encountered at a party and there is a growing sense that this is. This thing is gathering steam. There's an investigation is ongoing. And you know that you sort of sensitive were one more story away from maybe being able to hold onto his job. We don't know with fascinating to me though. Was we the coverage of this. You definitely get the sense from reporters who have cover cuomo that. This has been a long time coming. I'm thrilled to be joined today by two reporters could really help us understand that definitely velazquez state capitol reporter for the city and michael piles of national reporter for the new york times. Welcome to you both x. Just let me start with you because you have a terrific piece like a thousand years ago. But i think it was on sunday in which you talked about sort of picked up on this read that there have been warning signs about a lot of this stuff for some time and that even among reporters who cover the governor there have been signs at this was coming. Talk to me a little bit about that and sort sort of how you been sir putting in putting this late these latest allegations in that serve context as you cover this going forward. I think to me the thing. That's the most fascinating. Is that the andrew cuomo that has been in the media and the people have been paying attention to for the last year is the different andrew cuomo than the one that the reporters who cover him. No so you have the Andrew cuomo that stepped up when there was little federal Leadership on the cogan pandemic so people fell in love with them. Public fell in love with him Media outlets Fell in love with him. Especially the tv want And that persona was at odds. I think with of what the people who work with him. No hamas But for years the governor has made like really uncomfortable jokes and remarks That always got sort of nervously laughed off And you know we're talking about this one instance where he told a young reporter in syracuse female reporters. Eric to eat an entire sausage While his daughter was sitting next to him and just kept on talking about sausage Which is uncomfortable for everyone But there were also instances where the governor just seem toned up and some of his remarks. And i think the metoo movement Change the dynamic of things But really in the last few days in the last few weeks. The governor has been An open especially rephrase that it's been in oakwood secret that the governor has Been a bit of a bully. So it's been really interesting to see how this is playing out now and why people suddenly care you have the timing of. This is curious to me though. I mean you mentioned me to But but in there a lot of you know what happened after the weinstein story broke and then there was this wave of people who there there were sort of open secrets of of of men who had harassed women that sort of came out Cuomo was not in that wave. And then you mentioned this sort of like the cuomo kind of infatuation period at the beginning of cova where. He was on tv with his brother. Yuck it up and everyone is like you. Andrew is like our whatever father figures something But but even then these stories didn't come up So what do you think do. Do you have a theory to explain wild. Why this is where these are coming up now. I think death by a thousand cuts It the ball started rolling on one assembly member from queen. Twos not a household name Told cnn that you know he got this really threatening. Phone call from the governor About nursing home deaths during the pandemic and that he has never been talked to that way by anyone And after that that opened the door for everyone out to share their cuomo stories of you know getting me threatening phone calls in the middle of the night And i think that laid the foundation for other people talk about their toxic workplace And i think that was a natural progression into a toxic. Workplace creates an fostered environment for harassment and that led us to sexual harassment allegations. That we've been seeing the last few days Michael is so interesting to talk to you because you covered juliane. I mean to me when when all this started happening last few days you really did. Remind me of giuliani. Who we knew was a kind of odious figure before nine. Eleven and then nine eleven happened. And he was like america's mayor and he was the guy who was sort of leading the nation. Really out of this terrible dark moment and then what we've seen what's happened to him sense and so there was this to me very similar like people sort of like i don't know lost their mind for a second about who this person was or they just got sort of swept up in did. Did this thought occurred to you as you watch this cuomo coverage for the last few days yata some extent. I mean i think and you're right. I mean giuliani had. I mean giuliani's moment as mayor really was in his first term in other words. He's good moment right. The moment in which he got all kinds of national attention in the second term and been a decline in two in a kind of parody right. I mean he. He calls a press conference to announce that he's separating from his wife before he's even told his wife. I mean it's just it's this kind of lunatic It's appears to be kind of as lunatic end of vase for routing and then comes this great crisis and you don't actually i'd give him credit. I mean those first few days you know. I mean we can live with to allergies and people and and i think the one you performed. Well until he didn't until he decided to try. To overturn democracy are know a week or so after nine eleven. But you know there is. I wonder i mean certain. Similarities there to andrew right. I mean it's it's been a long time. He's been playing the kind of muscular bullyboy for many many years. I mean i experienced that. You know when i did a what i wrote a column on new york and that was you know what eight years ago i mean and he was famous for this sort of stuff. So it's kind of amazing that he's lasted even putting to the side but the very important question of sexual harassment. And i kind of think he's been playing this kind of extreme bully game for a long time and it's it's you know then. He had his moment. As you say you know. Come come the the coming of the plague and i think in the same duality. I mean kind of say yeah. He had this strong muscular analogy people that resonated with people at a time of extreme worry extreme anxiety. And i think you've given that credit you better say look you know in other ways if if if you have not exactly been descending into parody i mean the the downside of andrew was pretty well known to you know folks who cover him and and have to deal with them as fellow paul's in that ecosystem gisela. I'm curious what your own experience dealing Had you had you had you. I mean rudy giuliani tori. Ously told michael used the f word with my whole public Progressive and now we were hearing from other reporters especially women reporters about colombian inappropriate harassing. Or just being a bully. What has been your own experience dealing with them You know. I have been covering andrew cuomo than twenty thirteen as an intern So we're going on the better part of a decade. That i've been covering him. I don't think he actually learned my name until last year What about the way. He treats a female reporters especially young women. I mean almost you just you just about that. Would he just find a way not to use your name or did he have other what he would call you something else. Or what. What do you mean it never. He never used my name. You know. I press conferences. He would call out other male reporters By name And even some female reporters But i don't know if it was a conscious effort to not learn the names of young female reporters or whether you know he didn't actually know my name but i think if you look at the career The kobe briefings. He has a certain familiarity and comfort with male reporters. That he doesn't have what's be no reporters especially young ones And you could tell by his answers. He gives these long expansive answers. And let's more men get question. Then women i don't think that is a design flaw And you know over. The last few days is or over the last few months those briefings have become virtual cuomo administration ham. Pick the people that get questions And you could tell it. There is a pattern. There who gets elected It went months without getting picked question. I think several of my colleagues as well You know the new york post reported on this bombshell phone call where his top aide effectively said You know we froze the pandemic and didn't release the accurate number of nursing home debts and the governor went on to berate the new york post and no point called on the reporter. That broke that story And i think that's indicative of like who he's comfortable around and what sort of value you place on the reporters who cover you You haven't your ps that. I referenced earlier this sort of Exchange that he had with karen dewitt who was a longtime capitol correspondent for public radio. And would she asked him. About what state government is doing in my sexual harassment and assault allegations against two eight and he. He tells her that she was doing a disservice to women by asking the question. Have there has all of this. Been this sort of goes back to my earlier question about like this the sort of understanding why this is coming out now. Have there been people writing these stories all along about like about these about the sausage thing that you mentioned earlier this remark. He made this exchange with karen. Have people been writing. Noting this and nobody's been carrying about it or they. It just hasn't been rising after. I know that the cure into with him was a. I remember that at the time. We'll be talking about that. But why why. Why didn't listen. Stick more than i think that it was. It was definitely written about but not paying attention to andrew cuomo that extensively you know the people who cover new york state politics and pay attention new york state politics knew about all this stuff But you know the cuomo sexual than those who came on board And learned about andrew cuomo game Didn't so seeing these things and reading about you know what's a workplace was like under andrew cuomo. I think is jarring for a lot of people especially given that joe biden press secretary was recently fired for rating a white house correspondent and making inappropriate remarks to her. So i think dot made all the difference. What we're seeing today 'cause like we said earlier like it has been an open secret. It's not news. It's just that suddenly everyone cares and it's weird to think about because all of this behavior has is so normalized Especially for those in new york politics. You know you. Don't think different when you know the governor as aids. Call you or call your editors you Or when they start throwing personal Jabs at you and telling you to like get out more that all seems so normal and it's really odd that suddenly everyone realizes that okay. This behavior is really toxic. And that you don't actually have to put up with it and that it's not warranted. Think that change of attitude is not going to stick in other words if he if he if he manages to survive this news cycle and were using office and be months. Do you think will still be this. New awareness and responsiveness to this. Or do you see you see everyone sort of reverting back to the norm. I mean i guess it all depends whether or not What comes down from here on out whether they're going to be more allegations of sexual harassment or just talk workplace environment and how Re just they are. You know if that's the case. I don't know how he can effectively govern And whether or not he'll be a distraction to new york. And but i think that because more women have been elected to office. That's why there has been this sort of heightened scrutiny of how power functions and this unwillingness to put up with you know really poor behavior and toxic behavior So you know there is normal workplace tensions that happened and things like that but it shouldn't rise to the occasion Where you have aids basically having. Ptsd all this week. I mean. I've been getting calls and i've been making calls of people just about how triggering stuff is And how emotionally and physically psychologically scarring. It is to see someone phone number and start to panic So i don't know i mean. Hopefully this is a learning experience for other politicians to realize that like known this stuff anymore. There is this long unfortunately history. I mean spitzer was insane in his dealings with other people in the press and with other politicians. I mean i never forget. You know the head of the working families party talked about you know sitting there literally like his spindle is hitting his face because he's screaming spencer's screaming at the top of his lungs can handle the press the way you know there is. I think it's toxic boksic environment. It is interesting. I mean rudy was the same way lots of you know screaming and yelling and bathing and it's a I mean it certainly seems a a certain type in new york politics and And not and one. That's kind of weirdly successful until it isn't because you're alienating people all the way along and in particular women in this case But i mean. I remember doing a piece on cuomo. You know he was coming at me because i was anti italian. He said which is news to my italian american wife But you know. I mean that's it you know. He plays this extreme hardball sort of our politics. And that's not by the way to say. Oh let's just hard or politics. I mean it's you know it's deeply unpleasant to deal with and it is interesting. How it of a certain type in new york politics. Yeah you mean you covered your part of the team that cover the spitzer collapse. What is to me. The says something about political journalism. Because you know all these people that we've talked about cuomo juliane spitzer we don't even talk about trump. they all they. We knew who these people we've known as people were we knew who they were the whole time And it wasn't until there was finally something happen that's broke with fever and and it was like okay then. All out in part of me thinks like well. I should've happened early. I mean it's a way it's about these kinds of narratives that that sort of take whole why. That is something that we could somehow teams. Then you know. I mean i think it's a great great question and i guess my my thought is sort of twofold. I mean on the one hand. Reporters need to work harder at pulling back the curtain on you know on these politicians and earlier i mean you know like if there are identifiable personality types than you know. We need to write about that earlier. certainly argue that Male reporters need to be more attentive to you. Know picking up. Pull on the kind of Stuff that you're talking about. You know where where women reporters are getting ignored in men. Reporters aren't At the same time. I mean you know. There's been a lot of there. Was you know. I was city hall. Bureau chief under you know rudy it. It was newsday and you know. I mean i dined out on those stories and his you know attack as did other reporters in his attacks on the press and his going after the ferret man on his radio show. I mean he was. You know there was a A baddie quality To rudy that was part of his. You know kind of if you will his public personality. I don't know if that's true to the same extent about walmart though. I would argue that. There's been fair number of pieces over the years. And i guess and again. This isn't the take the press off her. I said you know there's things we can do the pullback the curtain much more aggressively win you know when he gets on and quali- famous thing is he won't talk to people on the record the refuse to comment and then he'll call and yam or in the ear of say a bureau chief you know for an hour all off the record when i give my column. I used to refuse to do that. It always kind of funny. Because i get on. The phone is press person say well. You know the governor's on the funding but always called six o'clock at night because he wanted to screw with your head as you're on deadline and and and and i would say well on the record is no as i don't wanna talk show and i would hear cuomo. Cuomo was on the line right and he would like you know he would say like i could hear him telling the press personally cowen s tell him that in i started writing about this and i mean and other you know so i think there are ways of of kind of getting at some of the lunacy this at the same time i wonder if we also have to look at maybe an uncomfortable truth. The perhaps voters are not quite as uncomfortable with these lunatic personalities. I mean look. We're talking president governor mayor right. I mean we're talking about three. People can be pretty deeply unpleasant a previous president and yet people voted. You know forms again. I'm not trying to take the press off the hook. Not we have our job to do regardless of how somebody tolls or gets elected you know. Having get the number of votes they get but there is. There is a personality type. That new yorkers seem to be Perhaps comfortably Uncomfortably comfortable with voting for Because it wasn't like you know. Spitzer cuomo giuliani. I mean these were not these. Were there essential. Personality type was not unknown geneva. Any thoughts house break this cycle. You know i think are so michael said some of it is on the media. We as i think political reporting values access quite a lot. And you make trade off for that access you know whether it is talking to the governor as he berates you whereas he just talked your ear off off the record And then there are things that you notice along the way covering any politician That you deem as something that the public shouldn't know whether it is you know what their management styles like What their personal. I is And so i think that because of that luster of access you become desensitized to some of the other things that you see along the way And you have to weigh the benefit of reporting some of this out versus a long term effects. If i report out this story right now does that mean that they're gonna ice me out you know in the future And not return my calls not return. You know information That i might need down the line But i do think some of it is also on the voters. I mean maybe there is this antipathy towards who. They're electing voter turnout. It's not great for non presidential elections and so the people that go to vote are the people that care And i think that plays into it. Maybe some of the things that no political reporter writing are not permeating down to Quote unquote normal people and civilians. Either it goes over their head or they're just not interested And maybe they way whether or not you know. Personality versus governing. Do you wanna have someone in office. Who is a pushover. Do you want to have someone in office. Who is an effective fully So i think that's something to consider in all of this like what do you. What does the general public care about. And sometimes those things aren't sexy. You know stories some very basic information And i do you think it's interesting that in new york we have had this sort of series of bullies In different levels of office. And i think maybe because new yorkers are believes in general I dunno or they're just trump personality types that end up picking strong personality type but now there seems to be a sea change in the last few years over that. Just definitely michael. Thank you so much super interesting. I really appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. there's a lot kyle policy euros coverage of the formal case on our website and now daily email newsletter media survey and us on facebook and twitter. Thanks for listening seeing. That's we've

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