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Full Episode: Friday, November 29, 2019

World News This Week

23:24 min | 10 months ago

Full Episode: Friday, November 29, 2019

"From ABC News World News this week. I'm Chuck Sivertsen in New York. Coming up president trump and Afghanistan. The Taliban wants wants to make a deal. We'll see if they want to make the next impeachment here practicing and his lawyers will welcome to participate. America's support pro democracy thousands of protesters taking to the streets of Hong Kong waving American flags to say. Thank you London terrorist stabbing into a stage of risk on personal safety destroy save others Texas Chemical Plant blasts us nothing but just a huge whitish mall flames going into the air. A paralyzed man walks again. A spinal cord research a leading an innovative trial at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota people in advance that made headlines when world news this week continued. And there's a lot coming at you right now. Turmoil tweets an insane amount of chatter. I'm Brad Brad Milkey with ABC News. And I am here to throw a lifeline. It's a new podcast called start here or are experts on the ground access to the biggest stories of the day. We're GONNA give you some context. Some clarity among the chaos twenty minutes every weekday. Subscribe now on Apple podcast. Or wherever. You get your podcasts and start here there's no I'd rather celebrate. This thanksgiving resident. Trump made a surprise visit Thursday to visit troops in Afghanistan on Thanksgiving. ABC News Senior Senior. White House correspondent. Cecilia Vega has more on a secret mission. That only a handful of top aides knew about President trump landing in Afghanistan delivering thanksgiving surprise to the American troops surrounded by those servicemembers. The president announced peace talks with the Taliban are now back on. The Taliban wants to make a deal. We'll we'll see if they WANNA make a deal. It's got to be a real deal but we'll see the president abruptly cancelled those talks less than three months ago after a spike in violence. The move sparking fierce bipartisan artisan outrage. That concerned that dead nineteen Americans have died in combat in Afghanistan so far this year the most in five years ears and president trump hoping to make good on a promise to reduce the thirteen thousand troops currently stationed there to about eighty six hundred. This is the president's the second trip to visit troops in a combat zone traveling to Iraq last Christmas but this mission comes amid controversy at the Pentagon after the president intervened on behalf a half a navy seal at the center of a war crimes case the Navy secretary forced out after president trump refused to allow top leadership to strip Edward Gallagher in his elite navy seal status in the Washington. Post ousted. Navy Secretary Richard Spencer calling it a quote shocking and unprecedented intervention saying saying the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices the president trump eager to show off his military support. The president all smiles as he served Thanksgiving dinner joking about missing out on his own helping. I never got to my joke. Is the first time in Thanksgiving that I've never had anything cold Turkey. But that's okay. Congress was offered the Thanksgiving Holiday but Democrats craft. Were still working on the house impeachment investigation. ABC Sherry Preston job to White House correspondent Karen Travers about. What's coming up two things you have from the House Intelligence Committee? According to Adam Schiff the chairman. They're going to be sending a report to the Judiciary Committee sometime very soon. And that's essentially all all the evidence that they say they've gathered through the public hearings and the private testimony over the last couple of weeks. They were in the fact-finding business and then it goes to the Judiciary Committee Mitty for the actual building of case against President Trump. We're also expecting a hearing next week in the house. Judiciary Committee which Sherry. It's more of an academic a DEMOC- hearing you know this isn't one where we're going to see former or current administration officials testifying the Chairman Jerry. Nadler says they're going to bring in legal experts. BIRT's essentially to look at the constitutional framework of impeachment. Is it going to be a little more dry than what we've seen so far. Perhaps but they say that this is them checking off all the boxes they need to as they start to build the case for impeachment against President Trump. Will this be like a court of law where either Republicans could bring in their own expert. SPIRT witnesses their own constitutional scholars as compared to the democratic constitutional scholars. I don't know about that next week. And how that actually is going to look. The president received a letter from the chairman. Airman of the Judiciary Committee saying they're going to hold this hearing and and they're looking at the historic basis of impeachment now. The president and his lawyers were welcomed to participate eight. That's what Jerry Nadler said. This is December fourth. The president actually will be in London so he's not going to be participating but the White House This Week said they're considering during that letter. And we'll get back to the judiciary committee in a couple of days now sherry what they do say though is that this is a partisan sham investigation. Shit and I. It's hard to see them giving in any way giving an inch in participating in one hearing because that would almost signal that they're giving credibility to a process that they've he's been criticizing now for two months a federal judge. This week ruled at former White House. Counsel Don mcgann must testify before Congress striking a blow to the White House's efforts to Stonewall stonewall the impeachment investigation federal judge telling the White House the Constitution never envisioned a president having the power to quote kneecap house investigations by demanding demanding. His staffers ignored congressional. Subpoenas the judge saying former White House counsel Don mcgann must answer what he knew about claims. The President may have obstructed the Muller Investigation Investigation. The Justice Department says it will appeal Andy Field. ABC News the White House Senior White House. Counselor Kellyanne Conway Says No one was surprised by the mcgann indecision judge Obama point a judge. This is not unexpected but it's also not sustainable began ruling came the same time that left. Parnasse ask an indicted associate of president. Trump's personal attorney rudy. Giuliani gave new information to the house. Intelligence Committee ABC's Johnson has more from Washington our sources sources. Tell us that it's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of videos it's a lot of recordings it's images. There's documents some are in English summering Ukrainian we don't know the exact substance that is so obviously could be something huge something not so huge but the fact of the matter is that it is still cooperation ever the less that they are going being through right now. ABC's Johnson Tucci before he left Washington for the holiday. President trump answered questions about his personal attorney Rudy. Guiliani is standing by president trump. Even after after it seemed the president tried to put some distance between them in radio interview with Bill Riley Tuesday. The president said he didn't know what Giuliani was doing with his outreach to Ukraine what was very sorry. Giuliani doing in Ukraine. On your behalf where you have to ask that to rudy but Rudy I don. I don't even know I know he was going to go to Ukraine and I think he cancelled cancelled a trip. But you know rudy is other clients other than me. Giuliani recently has laughed off suggestions that the president was going to throw him under the bus and blame. Blame him for the Ukraine Controversy Karen Travers. ABC News Washington. And there were new questions about Giuliani's business dealings with Ukraine. ABC's in Estela Matera The New York Times reporting. He signed a proposal to be paid three hundred thousand dollars by the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice supposedly to find stolen. Money Giuliani responding on twitter writing. I did not pursue a business opportunity in Ukraine as they misrepresented. I could have helped them. Recover seven billion dollars dollars in stolen money but I didn't was paid zero. ABC's and as liquid terra. Beijing is threatening consequences after president trump signed two bills supporting the pro the democracy movement in Hong Kong. ABC News Senior Foreign Correspondent Ian Panel has more thousands of protesters taking to the streets of Hong Kong. Many waving American flags likes to say thank you. They're grateful after president trump signed legislation strengthening. The position of Pro Democracy protesters two bills that threaten sanctions sanctions and penalties. If China medals with the city's rights and freedoms it's also bands american-made Tig Asan rubber bullets from being sold sold to Hong Kong. Mr Trump said he signed the law out of respect for president cheap China and the people of Hong Kong the Beijing's furious the American combated summoned in anger China saying it strongly protests the move calling it serious interference in China's internal affairs and warning of strong countermeasures during a time when both economic superpowers are engaged in highly sensitive. Talks to end the long-running trade war all this as the battle on the streets of the city descend increasingly into violent clashes. ABC's Ian Panel in London. London Friday police shot dead suspected of stabbing several people near London Bridge killing at least two and what. They've declared a terrorist incident following a multiple stabbing being incident. Just north of the bridge on armed average citizens took matters into their own hands and confronted the man London Mayor Sonny. Another example of the bravery Hristov Ordinary Londoners running towards danger risking their own personal safety. Try and save others say thank you to them on behalf all those But also because this shows the best of us within minutes armed police were on the scene. The suspect shot and killed. He had on him a fake explosive device. Tom Rivers ABC News London and in the Netherlands several people were also injured in a stabbing in The Hague's main shopping street Friday night before dawn Tuesday. A six point. Four magnitude earthquake struck Albania. Dania killing at least forty nine people buildings were pancake trapping dozens of sleeping people beneath the rubble. Two thousand injured and four worth thousands have been left homeless in southeast Texas. More than fifty thousand people were forced from their homes for Thanksgiving after two explosions rocked a chemical plant and the surrounding in community. The intensity of the blast at the T. P. C. Facility was captured on a doorbell security camera for miles around the plant in port. Nature's as people knew what had happened. There's nothing but just a huge y mall flames billowing into the air just lit up the whole entire sky. Stephen Bell Rose says windows windows were blown out in his neighborhood plant manager. C three workers were hurt in the blast. Jim Ryan ABC News. Dallas officials said a massive fire at the plant had been contain Friday after three days of battling the blaze an eighteen day. Manhunt came to a close Wednesday when authorities arrested a marine suspected of murder. ABC Zachary cash has more this search for marine. Michael Brown is over. Authorities remarkably arresting Brown at the same Virginia home where he's accused of murdering in his mother's boyfriend. Brown deserted his post at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina last month. The manhunt eventually focusing near Roanoke. We're an RV. V linked to Brown was found not far from his grandmother's home his family at the time pleading for Brown to peacefully turn himself in. I won't leave you. Just please please turn yourself in. I can't lose another person. Brown's mother telling investigators she witnessed the November ninth shooting her boyfriend. Rodney Brown pressed on the relationship between the two men in attorney hired by friends of Michael Brown described the family as dysfunctional. ABC's Acura quiche free last after after spending three decades in prison for a murder. They didn't commit three. Men are finally exonerated. ABC's Linsey Davis has the details. Alfred Chestnut Ransom Watkins and Andrew Stewart. Free men after thirty six years of being imprisoned for crime a Maryland. Judge says they did not commit their exoneration making headlines lines justice. They're arrested back in nineteen eighty-three when they were just sixteen. Seventeen years old arrested on Thanksgiving morning. Duck it was shot in a second-floor Khawla all of this old. WBAL TV newscasts reporting on the murder of a fourteen year. Old Baltimore teenager killed at school for his Georgetown University Jacket with prosecutors. There's now say police. Reports reveal witnesses identified another shooter who later died. The boys were convicted. Even after chestnuts. Mother showed police a receipt for Georgetown Jacket. They found in her son's closet. It was chestnut. Who pushed the state's attorney for Baltimore City to review the case? It's a tragedy that these men had thirty six years. The life stolen from authorities in Alabama confirmed Wednesday. That human remains discovered in a wooded area belong to Anaya Blanchard. The college student missing since late. October Auburn Police. Chief Paul Register says three people have been arrested in connection with her disappearance. The case obviously will move forward as a homicide investigation at this point and as you expect additional charges will be forthcoming Blanchard is a stepdaughter of UFC fighter. Walt Harris in emotional tribute. He says blanchard changed his life for the better her and taught him to be a man and a better father. A famous American climber falls to his death in Mexico. ABC's will read has details tragedy. Striking one of the world's most accomplished free. Solo climbers thirty one year old. Brad golbright killed after falling nearly one thousand feet from climbing spot in Mexico GEICO experience fear. But I've learned to deal with a California native go. Bright was featured in the twenty seventeen films safety third. It's just kind. What about the beauty and simplicity of moving rockwall all by yourself with him at the time of the fall? His partner Aidan Jacobson the pair descending from the mountain El Sendero Sendero Luminoso. Both climbers losing control while repelling Jacobson injuring his ankle golbright sent into a freefall in twenty seventeen. Go Bright along along with partner. Jim Reynolds set a speed record climbing a route called the nose on El Capitan in Yosemite National Park climbing the three thousand foot route in a little over two who hours and nineteen minutes. The same peak where thirty-three-year-old Emily Herrington survive to fall earlier. This week now friends and family in mourning over a life loss too soon. ABC's will receive a man who prosecutors say was a spy for China living in the San Francisco Bay area strikes plea deal prosecutors say Edward Pong was a Chinese spy who naturalized as a US citizen in twenty twelve on whose cover was a tour. Operator in San Francisco is now pleading guilty to serving As an unregistered agent for China he's agreeing in court to a four year prison term and a thirty thousand dollar fine deal which still has to be signed off on by Judge Prosecutors. kidder's say Pong left money in hotel rooms in exchange for digital storage drives containing government information. which he then took to Beijing Alex Stone? ABC In an authorities in Germany are offering. What's equivalent to a five hundred fifty thousand dollar reward for information leading to the recovery of eighteenth century jewels stolen from a collection in Dresden? ABC's James Longman has more a piece of German history stolen in minutes. Police say thieves struck. One of Europe's oldest museums the swiping three resets of priceless diamonds and precious stones. Police are now investigating whether those thieves. I set a fire near Dresden. Famed Green Volt that fire plunging nearby streets meets and the museum into darkness. Alarms going off moments later but by the time police arrived they'd vanished. ABC's James Longman Massachusetts is the first state in the nation to ban Dan all flavored tobacco products and nicotine vaping products including menthol cigarettes. The bill we signed today goes a long way toward restricting access us to the most addictive kinds of nicotine and vaping products that also provides the Department of Public Health with clear authority to regulate the sale of nicotine vaping products to protect the public governor. Charlie Baker says the ban is meant to reduce the appeal of vaping products to young people. ABC's Gio Benitez takes a look at how some schools are teaming teaming up with students to stop vaping before it starts at Arrowhead Union. High School in Wisconsin. It looks like a high school principal. Greg which Eric shows parents errands firsthand. The camouflage vaping items confiscated at his school on a regular basis. They look like football's really open minds. You may recognize the principal taking a very different approach. Deploying groups of his high school students trained in prevention education and who have never vape two middle schools in his district. He says that distinction is key but I came with this idea and did a little research and people who are users are are not as effective as the people who have never used before before the presentation middle school students tell us that peer pressure is intense but after the presentation all three seemed to gain confidence from the high school High school students in Minneapolis are also teaching fellow. Students with a program called escape the vape student to student prevention seemingly becoming a must as the fight against against youth vaping continues early. Winter weather interrupted holiday travel plans for thousands with flights delayed or canceled Tuesday and Wednesday snow also forced portions of of interstates to close in the West and strong winds threatened to ground the famous balloons. In New York's macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Balloons may be barely off the ground but they are in the air for the ninety third base Thanksgiving Day parade marching bands cheerleaders loud and flows a crowd of three three million plus the two and a half mile route the traditional kick off the holiday season Aaron Katersky. ABC News New York. And now the Thanksgiving is over over. The holiday shopping season is officially underway. ABC News Chief Business Correspondent. Rebecca Jarvis has some tips for those looking to get something back for the cash they spend. It's been it's the most wonderful time of the year but it's also the most expensive the typical American according to nerdwallet gearing up to spend eight hundred twenty five dollars on gifts experts. Say how you pay can actually impact what you pay planning to check off that. Wish list all in one. Replace a store charge card may be right for you. These cards work at one specific retailer only and often come with juicy rewards like the target. Get Red card. which scores you five percent off most purchases and the Coles card which gets you thirty five percent off the first time you use it if with food shopping is high up on your dues? Look for a cashback card that rewards grocery purchases like the AMEX blue cash every day card. which gets you three percent back at supermarkets and finally if you're gearing up for a big holiday getaway capital one venture awards credit card? Let's you earn two-time do time smiles on every purchase. Everyday the most important thing when you're using credit cards is to pay the bills on time. If you're not that kind of person who can stay on top of it it is not worth at the interest will far exceed any kinds of rewards. And one thing you can do if you really want to save money. This holiday is used cash only only set a budget. Take the money out. ABC's Rebecca Jarvis coming up. This bar was doing what he and many thought would never happen again. He was walking a paralyzed. 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That's ancestry history dot com slash podcast. A researcher calls it potentially ground-breaking a paralyzed man is walking again thanks to a new medical innovation. ABC's will receive has more on an historic trial for Chris Bar Young successful active. It was a surfing accident in February twenty. Seventeen it's exactly exactly like it is in the movies where you know. It's like a fish islands opening up and the doctor says you're paralyzed from the neck down. You No probably in ninety five to ninety seven percent chance that I'll have nothing below my neck so lifetime of no movement exactly. I asked my wife for permission. Permission to pull the plug I said yes I will support whatever you want to do but can you give us just a little time just a little bit of time and you said yes. The new norm Rehab physical therapy months of small improvements glimmers of hope I a tow than a leg even his hands. Then the progress plateaued you ask yourself is that all there is all the further running go. Was this this it so very very dark nights of the soul at that time. Then we're delay comeback Dr Biden phone call from Dr Biden. Dr Mohamed Biden a spinal cord researcher leading an innovative trial at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota in the potentially historic study. Chris would be patient number one patient number one. Yeah there's gotTa be some anxieties associated with that you you gotta understand. You've got absolutely nothing to lose stem cells from Chris's own stomach. Fat were injected into his spinal cord to regenerate and repair the injury but what happened next is potentially ground breaking news. How soon did you see? Improvement went from that procedure. It was fast. I felt that going in. I felt it in my legs. I hadn't felt anything in my legs for for almost a year. Qa's is like we do all the testing and all the numbers just jumped on shorts after we treated him. Improvement started to come quickly. Chris Bar was doing doing what he and many thought would never happen again. He was walking as good as I feel nice just because right now. There is no cure for for spinal cord injury to wow. Is this a breakthrough. This is a first step and developing a breakthrough and those the people and events that made world news this week World News. This week was written produced by Stephanie. Pawlowski I'm Chuck Sivertsen A._B._C.. News New York.

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Padma Lakshmi, Tom Colicchio, Gail Simmons

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

22:41 min | 6 months ago

Padma Lakshmi, Tom Colicchio, Gail Simmons

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen Pal. Andy Cohen coming at you with a brand new episode of Watch what. Happens live. We recorded this before we pause production. We're going to be back with live episodes soon. In the meantime stay safe and enjoy the new episode. Please pack your knives and drink. It's watch what happens. I with McGill and Tom from top chef. Now hey everybody. Welcome to watch whatever's on your host Andy Cohen in the Bravo clubhouse on top chef premier night with three of my favorite foods of all time from top shop which is back in L. A. With an alias Roster of Dr Shops whose welcome pod Moloch sweet. Wait to see the three of you. I am so excited about this season. I am. We are too. It's really great over at the bar. She survived the first round of eliminations. Tonight and she's keeping around coming from top chef season sixteen and Seventeen win. Without spoiling anything was the competition this season the fiercest than yes. Yes deadly xactly. Let's get started. I have to congratulate the three of you on seventeen amazing so excited that the three of you were coming on. I wanted to open up my own. Little private vault. I found some great chefs photo so now time. On top chef look right. Here is asleep in your. Is that gail sloppy in your lap but usually stop. He's got me and guy running so young you're me and pod bound doing a challenge. Here's in addressing room. Pick here we are that your first sees my ears of my ads here. Is Tom with the do rag ongoing? Were don't think that might be in Aspen. Wanting out giving me a shoe where he does have a foot fetish yes only. We are only one episode into the new season of top chef than already pod is adding a little spice and SAS it is time for our Sassy. Spatula moment of the night. Got here tokens ground. Show he's coming at one stop choke on their time. Jack should be a penalty for Collins over too many times right partner. We dug into the watch. What happens live archive? We found something very interesting. I think the three of you might WanNa see. Watch this if you had to choose one. What former chef testing would you want to hook up with you in Heaven Kevin the one with the Pork Tattoo? The pig really. Oh Kevin Gillespie a big gingy with a beard interesting. Okay Kevin. Gillespie is back on the show off with him record. Did you have any attraction? Attraction to Kevin is always you know kind of culinary and intellectualize Iran Bro. Yeah it's it's it's not physical. It's a really big brain. Okay your questions for Padma Gayle and Tom are coming in but before we get to those. Here's what three things I'm obsessed with tonight. I tonight on top chef. Contestants cooked over open flames and Lianne burner fish but it was joe who took the heat watch rubbed the grill with the oil rubber growth. You all don't. Let's go burn if you do that. Not good sorry. That's dumb technical error at the same time. Don't have extra fish to come. Liens halibut. I'm not a fan of look at that fish. You have all that carbon on that fish there. That's all that's a rookie mistake. And just put that nothing. Wet doing a flatbed with all this stuff it better be crispy. Better get that front. We all noticed this soot on the edges of the. You can taste it to apologize. Joe Patronizing go joke. There was just too many ideas crammed on one piece of bread. Took how close was Leeann to getting the heave? Ho Ho so close but at the end of the day like he gave us some flat bread with stuff on it but not a lot flapper which stuff right. That's what you WanNa do for your first big challenge. Well here's what this season of top chef is about to serve out plenty of juicy drama so I. WanNa wet our appetites with just in a mood of information. I'm GonNa Grill the three of you about what's on the menu. This season answer without spoilers does chef cry during judges table this season. Yes yes Which of the judges will be the harshest critic this season? Besides US know just of the three of you I think we all have our moments. Yes Nicer the years and I've gotten mean Gen- Carol a major outage Jen. Carol had a major attitude problem in season six. Do we expect the same attitude? This season. you can expect a Cornucopia of Brian Votaw's IOS brother. Michael Make any appearance this season. No I don't think so does a chef loser with another chef during judges table. This season hasn't moment. Yes we see Kelly Clarkson as a guest judge in the super tease. How would you rate per gallon? Pretty good report fired. She she's great. What's the worst rookie mistakes? Someone makes pouring oil on a grill. Gap Back I guess or at the top of the food chain in the world of cuisine. I want to dig into some of their more lowbrow behavior. Here's what time to dish in the dark. You'll lead shake flashlight. And we will cut the lights in the clubhouse I will toss out a scenario. If you've done that thing you will shine the flashlight on your face ready. Let's dim the lights. Have you ever any of you ever been kicked out of a restaurant for unruly behaviour? Okay my kids. Yes you ever told a CHEF YOU ENJOY THE MEAL. They made when you secretly hated it. Have you ever told the chef you didn't like the restaurant design or decor never a? Yes have you ever had an allergic reaction to a shaft friends cooking? Have you ever not tipped away to do too bad service? Have you ever hooked up in a restaurant bathroom you so much? Have you ever Have you ever pretended you made a dish that you really ordered in? Have you ever come up with a crazy food combo while drunk or hi? I knew it was you I love you all. I've ever spit out a bite of food while at a restaurant. Yes have you ever said an item back to the kitchen more than once? Thank you very much same brunch. Okay finally the top chef. Judges aren't scared to question a recipe choice or kind of contestant down to size. But here's what tonight. I'm joined by a special guest who comes packing a few shady pointed questions for my gas. It's our shady sharp knife as shady sharp knife. Who's ready to get cut? We all are. What's your first question. Shady sharp knife. Which former chef tested made you the single worst dish you've ever eaten on top chef. Whoa anyone. That's a hard one. There's been a few. Yes we going. No no no so essentially so that clip earlier. I figured out where I was. I was in a desert in Las Vegas Yes I forget his name now but John Guy No. I think he's French but he made his cod beach in the summer. That was like ninety degrees and it was horrible and I spit out. I try to hide behind a CACTUS. I and I I just put it out all right. Shadi sharp knife. GimMe another one. Which celebrity guest judge gave the worst? Most uneducated critiques. Yikes I say that. I say who I think it is all. She knows how thrilled she shading calm. She's probably the shadiest. Yes we've had on. Well she wasn't she. She'll shady inches on the show but for other reasons maybe there was also that chef also forgetting his name on one of our early. Michael was just the worst. He was daring. Okay Gimme the last question. Shady sharp knife which former top chef contestant had the worst attitude in the kitchen warmer contested had the worst at who had the worst attitude of any former contestant probably visually that was like season to season. Yes Elliott Elliott. That was I think she changed but there were some dark moment. All right. Thank you very much. Nine thousand nine all right. Let's go to the phones. Caller is Kendall from Tennessee. Eight Kendall what's your question. Hi Andy My cane. My Bravo King. My question is for all three judges. Okay okay now that there are some vision shows. Which one do you think is donald top chefs? The most which other cooking competition show has ripped off top chef. The most I don't watch sincerely can't tell you watch chopped. It's basically a quickfire challenge. Well why thank early years? We used to think so but now we realized that like no show does what we do like those. Those are chefs at different points in their career. All Racist Sir. A lot of imposters but no one really I agree abby Atlanta. What's your question? Hi Everyone Hi my question for. All three of you is which returning contestant for the season of all stars do you think was the most robbed of winning the title during their original season to praise. I don't think anybody was robbed because we made the decision right. We thought we were robbing someone would have given rise above. Who HAVE THE MOST to prove? Do you think coming into this. I mean it seems like everybody else. They all had really strong reasons for being their own. Sort of emotional I mean. Don't you think Volta? Gio knowing that his brother had one you're Voltaren Kevin Gillespie Gregory. All of those. You Bet didn't win but came so close. It's just a bad. It's eating them up. But you know what I thought. Interesting is Brian. Malarkey seemed to have the biggest chip on his shoulder. But in a good way Brian Malarkey has probably done better than any chef. Ever on the show in terms of business yes fifteen restaurants and he sold them all to the Tau Group and really well like. How does it out for five years and support? He has a chip on her shoulder. Wants to a great chef right and so he came in kind of feeling like richer than all three of really all right. Let's go to Elizabeth from Ohio Elizabeth. What's your question by Andy? You're amazing and I love you almost as much as I love cops chef for all three of your guests out of them. All celebrity guest judges over the years or you most surprised by with their knowledge of food. Which celebrity were you most surprised by with their knowledge of food? I remember anything of all this. I remember in. This is going back a long time. But Season Five the FOO fighters. We shot in Rochester New York at a concert. Cambrian on yet big. That was my teen moment realized but I remember how completely passionate they all were about food. And how totally psyched? They were to be on the shell not only her but her entire team with a couple of people and they were all really. Yeah surprisingly knowledgeable next week on top chef. Melissa serves beef. Dr One ingredient is a real eye opener for Tom. Here's a sneak peek so I created for you is a MA beef tartare if has a anchovies only and a little spice potato chip while to Sweden. And he's a chilly. I guess Oh no spicy. Thank you so much. I got a mouthful Chili by saving time. How are you? This could be something that puts me on the bottom. You've got the whole bowl full of in one. Mouthful can panicking a little bit rut row. You better be Bodman. Gail Margot see emailed. When you go into one of Tom's restaurants. Do you have to pay for your meal yes. I don't good way to go to restaurants or the following day. The family discount. Let's go to Christi from New Mexico a Christie. What's your question? Yeah my question is for Padma. Was your reaction. When you saw that the New Yorker tagged Priyanka. Chopra it a photo of you after the mistake was made. Well there's a long story but it's it was very funny to me because David remnant is a friend of mine and he's the one who asked me to do it. Obviously he's not doing the New Yorker social media. I thought it was funny. I thought it allowed me to point out that you know. There are a lot of these kinds of mistakes. I didn't I didn't take it personally. She's beautiful woman It was fine and actually felt like there's so much more mileage and that article went so much further people saw. That's funny. It's game time. Everybody instantly recognisable stars of California cuisine. But I wonder which chefs my guests can quickly identify in which leaves them lost in the sauce. It's time to play. Who's eating Ridichio with Tom? Kalicki OH TOM head over to the green screen and put on these. Ramona is oh the Is a bunch of renown. Shafts are going to serve up bed. Roll the other way. Oh Oh it's me no. Oh you're Tommy ramone looking inward Kale in powder. That's GONNA YOU'RE GONNA feed Tom Clues correctly. Seven in sixty seconds all win. Just look at the Monitor and go. Oh okay she her hand the Hamptons. She didn't. He is an English since offline hair. He's very she's a really big smile. Biggest she is. A big difference was was a contestant on top chef show. Oh Yeah Oh you told him he could sit on his wallet if he felt short because so much when we were in the no it's up. A Wolfgang Puck New Orleans one more. Oh we needed a translator. Even when he was speaking English short no also because of the Japanese accidents. No glasses release you on. He was our boss. Gus Nine Neighborhood Network executive all right. Let's go back to the phones Andrea from Chicago. Hey there what your question guys so. My question is for time to. Where did your beef with Oprah? Begin over what would you oh. Oh maybe for Oprah Oprah where did your own? Was this time no no. I don't like you know beef. I just don't like it. I don't care for it. I don't like slimy food and Okra bite into it. It's slimy I don't care for it. This is not be do chefs. Who Come on the show pretty much know that you do not like. Oh cry all do unless there's any says absolutely everyone tries to every Friday and the thing is I will eat it and I will give my honest opinion. I don't I don't have a personal. I think someone for for making it seems misguided to me if you don't like it to me. I just wouldn't cook well normally. I would give my Mazal of the day but tonight's quickfire challenge may be wonder which small kitchen tasks my gas saver in which get them steam so Padma. What is your favorite kitchen? Task your favorite thing to do in the kitchen. I liked to organize so I also ties either alphabetize or I arrange my spices by you know region. It always comes back to spices changes. That's something you really enjoy. Come to my house in my office. I need someone to organize my sugar and SALT L. And Tom. What's your least favorite thing to do? I hate washing lettuce hate it. I don't know I have no problem with repetitive kitchen tasks I find them very relaxing. All even wash dishes for hours on end washing lettuce to me. It just irks me. It was the task. My mother always made me do it. This past weekend was my mother's birthday. We had a bunch of people at my house and I was cooking. That's one thing I hate to and I'll cook and I'll have a bunch of people and said can I help. Can I help? No NO WASH THE LETTUCE. Yes you ought all right. I WanNa thank God mug. Al Dot McGill. Tom From Sixteen. Let's go to holly from New York City. Hey Holly Hi everyone. My question is for sale guy high and I a my question is just sort of known as the sort of kindest nicest judge Obama was Was there ever dish or contested. Ever that you could. Remembrance Top chef maybe deserves a little bit more criticism than maybe they go. It's interesting. I'm just going to address. Do you think I'm nice because I have so many times? People have come up to my girlfriend's on the streets change or people when they find out that they're my friend and they'll be like is she really like she. Bitchy and percent Lusitania oil. About or. No you know no I mean yes. All good people no. I think really honest with them. I think you see you know an eight minute. Version judges table and ultimately we spent a lot of time talking to them and we're constructive but the whole point of this show. I don't know maybe you can address every the criticism they should have. It takes a little practice getting used to saying it's people's faces. I think I I agree. I think that you guys do a great job. I get a lot like we all get very good feedback and we take it with us so and I'm not hurtful it's still take that long to shoot out takes less time but we're still getting really honest good feedback and I think that the chefs that take it personally is because they know they messed up and they don't WanNa hear it. Sometimes Defensive Lullaby emailed Padma. Were you aware that some people thought you were the tree on the mass singer last season? Yes on what? Yeah why mass. Tom Blair emailed when you were working with Danny Meyer at gramercy tavern. Did he ever try to get you to work on? Shake Shack with him. I left before shake was a thing you do. You regret not getting on that money. Train wouldn't be about thing. You're doing all right. I want to thank Bob Miguel Nadal. 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Episode 7: Dress Code

I Want To Speak To The Principal

26:31 min | 8 months ago

Episode 7: Dress Code

"If you haven't heard about anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. It's free creation tools. Allow you to record. And Edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor would distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many others you can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. Everything you need a poor podcast in one place so download the free anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM started. You are listening to the I want to speak to the principal podcast with your host Dr Michael Milstein and William Jaffrey. It's where education is so sit back relax and enjoy another episode of I want to speak to the principal. The views thoughts and opinions expressed during this or any broadcasts belong solely to our guests for our hosts. These broadcasts do not represent or reflect. The views of their employers sponsors or affiliated organizations the primary purpose of schools for teachers and students to engage in formal instruction and learning before this process can successfully occur however there must be both a written and imply agreement between the two entities. Examples of these agreements may include the teacher well-prepared daily lessons that will meet the diverse needs of her students model high expectations that he or she has each student and be ethical and fair to all members in their classroom. They agreed a daily ten plants on time arrived to each class prepared to learn and be on their best behavior but the most important agreement for students is to know and abide by the Student Code of conduct all schools in America. Have a student cold of conduct. This is the holy grail of each guth. A section of this document fully outlines in detail what is acceptable and unacceptable as it relates to a student conduct appearance and interaction in school Luna Dress. Code is one of the most frequently visited food for parents. Teachers students and administrators. Although an overwhelming majority of students across the country comply with this policy school administrators will admit that enforcing the dress. Code can't create huge challenges. Daily Pluto's defy the dress code has stated that it diminishes marginalized flat out showed disrespect to their individual and today's episode of I want to speak to the principal will address issues with policies relating to dress cope house. The dress code established in the school district that the policy take into account specific students culture background and religious beliefs. Why is it important to have a student dress? Cope therapy exemptions to the dress code. What is the role of the parent in ensuring that students dress properly? Scoop these and other questions will be today in this episode of. I WANNA speak to the principal. Welcome Mr Jerry Marotta program Jerry. Moreau is education advocate. He has been working to advocate for students in the Houston area for a while. Now and Mr Munro. Welcome to I. WanNa speak to the principal banking man I appreciate. You've been working with this family. The Arnold Family through this process spor while police say some light on how you begin to advocate for the Arnold family and if you can just shed a little bit of insight on how the family is holding up I am on. I told me I live back one night on a state. I live taking told him again. Judge Obama and then I met the family we've talked about. How can I help them? With this situation we agreed. I would help him weaker situation as far as how they're doing. Now Oh poor. De'andre has been moved to another school. Because you could lose speak time. You know when you are matter what what grade you have in the classroom. But if you don't have enough hours in the classroom and you can actually get a mind on incomplete. Report has to be moved for that purpose but if the ended a dangerous deal as a kid rock and being discriminated against with design attaching. There are several school districts in a state of Texas that are similar to the policies with that of Barbara's. He'll what do you think should be done in the community to make these policies more inclusive at more reflective of the cultures that is in. Houston now bigger than schools in the workplace. Also so we need do. We need to get elected down all ends in passing legislation to give these discriminatory practices being employed by the school district. A chance so that way. You know you don't have to deal with it. I mean because you have black and white he is is not only integration respect so we need Some legislation to get done similar to what California. That's where we alluded to is that California passed the Crown Act. Thank you for bringing that up. What could have been done differently in a situation concerning andries interaction with his school district one reached out. I know what back when she reached out to the superintendent will to the school board member. There could have been dialed. I think when you can sit down and look at a problem you can find a solution but I mean this. They run the good old boy system. I was like okay. We're we're not going to talk to you. We're not GONNA do anything. So that's what forced our hand debated more dialogue and religious. He can't come to school. We'll suspended for whole nine yards. But we don. You're out of play the game so you know. I think that would have been some conversation about this. We could've you pats guys. How is the Andre Holding up? I'm having to change schools and situation like this past. I mean still beyond relax for the door and find other school. They accepted him not to worry body. You'll get to go across the stage win. His locks not being cut across his mind. He's accomplished in cold regardless of all the hill on the new school and he's going through. He's accomplishing goal. Which was not the couldn't lock drinker needed Educational Crockett in a man. Well thank you again for taking the time to speak to trust will let us know. Where can we find out more about you where you have on social media? I don't I don't do anything. Grammont twitter facebook leading but finally gave way Monroe. And you can find your needs to reach out to me Sir. I A moreau thank you so much and you have a great day and thank you for coming on our show Today's show we're happy to have. And and a pundit in the field of education gentleman I have known for almost twenty five years he has been administrator in both here and Texas and in the Great State of Georgia. And that's my good friend. Dr Roy subway dot how you doing today. I'm doing. I'm doing fantastic doctor. You don't start this six now by allowing you to give a little background of about yourself as relates to education okay. I have twenty five years in the field of education up Thursday as a teacher counselors from the elementary middle and high school levels of has been central office where I was an executive director over online learning and also especially coordinator on the side of been doing for the last eleven years teaching online for Grand Canyon University Georgia State University here in Georgia also You know it was my first choice. I started out in criminal justice. I used to work in enforcement for a while being a parole officer because I have one aspiration one day to kind of be. Cia FBI pay education with my call. And that's where I've been. I've been joining in. Lebanon has great. Doc You said that You had Interest at one time being. Fbi agent at tell you in education. You got to kind of be both of them some time particularly when you? You're dealing with With with kids dot. Thanks a lot for giving us that. Information back several. I know you're familiar with the news items that have been coming out of. Barbara's he'll Texas where the student has been denied the opportunity for graduate based on his the length of his hair and so our our topic. Today is dress code so we want to have you just share some of your thoughts about dress code. I'm just asking just a few questions and if you could just ask you give me your thoughts on. We would appreciate it asks view. What what's Your Philosophy Schools Students Dress Code Dress Code really depends on the coacher. Make school that you're working with the community because each school that I've had the pleasure of working at the T. administrator Each school has long. You need culture so even though there may be a district host student conduct gather relate to what the district things students should be wearing or address in terms of tire. Also cultural makeup because each community has different nationalities and people then within that community so within that there are certain cultural things because our country's diverse also recognize in terms of it so my philosophy is dead entails trying to be respectful of culture and different things in terms of that as long as drifting tired and things to do and it's not disruptive distracting but yet respectful enough whole core value. The Food Corvette sometimes never from the district core value. As long as. It's like that last one where I'm I'm working in. We're steps above that. Because as you know every day you get different types of foods different cultures moving into your mirrors in your neighborhood and you have to adapt address that and healthier to embrace the difference. As long as you're speaking of parents that seventy should parents have input into the schools dress code. I think parents should have some representation. When we're looking at driscoll and then trying to decide what thing that we may want to keep on takeoff redress though so I think having some representation from parents when they concern decisions whether it's in the beginning phases of your planning it or if you're trying to revive the ad to allowing it then let people know that you are including the community aspect of apparent aspects of being part of a Partnership Day. Have kind of a NS. Because I think about the latest thing in the new I think from my recollection what I heard on the correct alone standing policy. That might be a little bit though because there's because it was one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty right I tell you doctor you can lead me in the direction that I was going because my next question was should there be a limit to school. Board Trustees yes sir. A not only dubliner should be limited. School Board Trustees in terms of them serve and I think now needs to matriculate onto state legislature in state Senate Position Governorship Your manager than in House of Representatives. Well I believe sometimes when you're trying to get a new fresh ideas and people are still in sometimes when we tell the tone and style sometimes he needs to have ideas what people have been in the trenches are active living in and actually tell about the different things that need to change the terms of address. Our culture wasn't even gone because sometimes the most people were displaced from it or having. Therefore you can't you can't you can't talk about it when you are not limited nickname everyday and that's a good point and the reason. I was going at because in this case in. Barbara's he'll notice that one of the trustees I've been on board since nineteen sixty six. That would have made him a board member for what some fifty four years in a long time for the BMI surprise and be cognizant of the change that has happened so there's so much change and Culture in terms of people and community and dress attire and everything and in the whole world term different leadership positions. Things are happening around the world that you just cannot take a blind eye to because with today's technology you're exposed to you may try to closure it but the reality of the world which doc in all your years in education have you ever known. A board member exist on board for that length of time. Not Turning the further. I've ever heard of any boardroom. Having election open that person would have been defeated by somebody by one of the end of that vital year long time also noticed that on that board the head one member that been there since two thousand and to think another had been there since two thousand and five and another two thousand seven. Barbara's he'll sit actually sits between Baytown in Houston for the most part and There in that area then there may be one or two other small districts But I think the next big district would be Would be the Baytown district then. No there's not sure borders northshore also if I'm not mistaken but back I want to just move on We're coming up short on should dress be applicable for all K twelve students in the district. I know that most districts their for their their stance on dress code of conduct applicable to all grade level. However in my experience the only times I've had issues with when the kids get to that pre teen roundabout fifth grade going into Nick Grade. But where the Drexel Star account a lot of times. Sometimes he is a tire or changing clothes and the parents don't even know. They changed the clothes when he gets. Sometimes you have you have those kind of things going on but never really had challenging with with the lower lower grace because parents US address little pre K. kindergarten first grade kid more traditional. Conservative clothing at night causing distraction right. Keyser Awareness Day. Good doctor some. There's always it's a pleasure speaking which are always like sharing ideas with you As it relates to education and other matters again. Thank you for being on our show and That's going to in our session which dot. We'LL BE TALKING CHARLOTTE. Thanks again. Thank you for having me tweet. Tweet chat with US ON TWITTER. Bayshore to share the podcastone your favorite social media channels WANNA see. Some more of US had over meters on instagram. Big House is in somebody else in rain. Man Saying a man Standing Roy documents. They is talking about dress code this episode today. This was brought to attention several news outlets here in Houston Texas. Hey H dot com that Zia carry factor Fox twenty six news his show and it just bark my attention on this young fellow by the name of the Andrea Arnold. I have a couple of questions concerning you know. What do you feel about the issue? Why is dress code so important to schools well? Dress code is important. Schools will because it is a part of the school's culture that is a huge saw. The now you've heard O- Adage you know the way we act the way you dress sometime and so it's a huge part is important because it's a part of the school safety measures knowing. All kids are dressed appropriately. You can make sure kids aren't hiding things in your clothes are so it's a safety measure. It's just one thing it also provide routine is also one of the things about schools. Is that you know you want to try to keep things as routine and as common as possible so a case could know what is expected of everyone and it maintains harder to you know in the classroom. You don't won't folks He's dressed to the extent of wearing things that will distract of the learning process. There's lots of reasons why dress code is so important and not only VESCO coordinator school I mean. Schools are microcosm of our societies or dress. Code is important outside to build to fan restaurant dress any kinda way. Do you go to church. Most of the tag on you know appropriate clothes and things of that sort so You know it's it's it's a part of the structure. It's a safety. Measure provide routine is in maintains within the dress code. It seems as if sometimes it's dress code in those a reflection of culture that it can turn out to be a cultural issue like Arbizu is the. Oh yeah it can be absolutely. It could be that you know. Society is so diverse today and particularly in this area Texas where people are coming in from everywhere and bring their cultures in too. So what's happening? Is there a lot of times? They're coacher is not really fitting into may not fit in to the beliefs. The norms and norms of their community. But all the kids still have to go to school together so kids are bringing those cultures into the school. A lot of times teachers very flexible enemy Australia where they understand that the school board members are the ones that make the policies and a lot of times. They don't understand and that's where the issue comes in. I believe I hate to put you on the spot but I just thought of something or are you talking by. People bringing other cultures and to our schools system is it our job as educators to have a flat. Americanized culture is she. Should we uphold the American ask culture or should we promote the mixing pot in today's twenty twenty American culture? One of the things that you you I believe in in today's tavern. I don't know how you used to be way back when but I know in today's time as a principal. What I always try to do is make my my school inclusive. I wanted every student to feel value and I wanted every student feel like they were welcome and not just students but the parents to one of the things we had to do is to learn to adopt an appreciate all cultures that come into the building. The school like you said it is. It is a big melting patent. It also is a big learning partout. We all learn from each other's and as we just said earlier in the in a monologue means school. The purpose of school is for teaching and learning sort of your learning from another culture. And Edit can't do nothing but enhance your academic growth so looking at where we are. Today is the Andrea Arnold's no longer enrolled into is the. His cousin has suspended as wheel off for having long hair. Nfl players reach out to the young man. Saying never cut your lock like what could be done now to save face in this situation. I think what's been done has been done. I think the parents did the right thing and moving a young man. It was very unfortunate because what they did. They disrupted his learning process. I mean saying is that was accustomed to going to that school yet friends there. He had built a relationship with teachers. The fall and is now understand he. He was an excellent student above. The thing is that the board was not going to change that policy. And because that's a policy as I understand that they just had put on a Coda condo. I think it was one that when they updated recently updated this year mistaken about right look at the makeup of the board percentage of people in the community that looked like entree and now with were were in a in a no win situation in my view and so. I think they did what they had to do to make sure that their kid was allowed to be himself and to represent you know to have is keep his his individualism. Also you know you didn't WANNA cut off his hair. So next thing was to move to another school accepted. Say this is a perfect example of the importance of where parents should attend board meat and so they can know what's going on with the board. They at least know who the members are on board in is also is an owner. Let parents know that they need to be voting in these board meetings? Also you know like I said in this particular school district you had or four members that have been on a once. His nineteen sixty six. I just think about how much power that particular person had on board. Also think about the things that were going on in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight influenced him NIAN and instill influencing him now. And he's making decision on Kenya in twenty twenty. That's ridiculous yet. One has been on their two thousand and two which was almost eighteen years almost twenty years ago. Why don't to two thousand and five member should not have that lengthy? Stay on board because they impacting. You know th they're not connected to going on I think in a lot of case next thing was what's going on our today and like you said the various cultures that are constantly coming into that particular school district. I had an initial reaction to this because of the different cultures of the African American. Right because we come from all parts of Africa exact they are people even though Houston is now a bigger microcosm of the world a lot more influx of different types of African American or Afro Caribbean or Afro Hispanic has moved into the region. And just because your skin is dark does not necessarily mean you up underneath the Negro ancestry that tremendous tradition here in Texas absolutely absolutely Amazon. Also to those here is not law. He's here is in the process of getting longer and so mad at Wheaton College and a culture. We call it nappy. So but what he does is he twists his hair. So that could be an issue. France right and has appeared as administrator. You know this this story actually hit home right. I understand you know my point is is that you as a parent. You don't won't things to impact your kid then when it's too late then you're trying to fight to get a change in his unfortunate. This was the situation in Barbecue. You're just too late and folks on that board man you know. They know they know what they put. Put policy into the school board. That's Gospel because they are. They are actually voted on by community members so they represent the community and so if they put it on there and there's no dispute and no one questions they play something. Intra-party disputes are questioning. Then it's going to become a policy and a lot of times like I said it may not be made negatively impact. You know students who may not live who? That board is from poster. Hey follow us on twitter. Instagram facebook at I want to speak to. The principal can also leave us a matches anchor and all those voice. 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Mysterious Objects Discovered in Deep Space

SpaceTime with Stuart Gary

32:40 min | 2 months ago

Mysterious Objects Discovered in Deep Space

"Love this podcast support this show through the ACOSS support of HR. It's up to you. How much give and there's no regular commitment. Just hit the link in the show description to support now. This space time series twenty three episodes seventy, four for broadcast on the twentieth of July, Twenty Twenty, coming up on space time, mysterious objects, discovering deep space construction about to begin on the world's largest telescope, the square kilometer array and neo is puts on a spectacular commentary sky. Show all that and more coming up on space, time. Welcome to Space Time with Stewart Gary. Astronomers have discovered something new looking out in the depths of space. It's a series, a full faint circular radio objects which they've dubbed odd radio circles own CD's which are unlike anything. Anyone's ever seen before. The findings reported on the Prefix Website Archive Dot Org look like distant ring, shaped islands, highly circular and brighter along their edges. Tournaments haven't yet been added. Determine exactly how far away these objects are the anything that can be sure of is that they were detected away from the direction of the Milky Way's galactic plane. An H. appears to be abandoned art minute across. The study's authors have already ruled out some likely suspects such a Supernova star forming galaxies. Planetary Nebulae and gravitational lensing events among those still in the running shockwaves leftover from some extra galactic event or possibly activity from a distant radio, game. Now for these objects are extremely bright in radio wavelengths, but virtually invisible in all high wavelengths, such as infrared visible light and x rays, interestingly, however to these objects to have visible light galaxies of the centers, and that suggests there may be some sort of association with these galaxies, perhaps they were formed by them, also to of these strange objects, were found near each other, and that raises the possibility that there Arjun could be linked. Astronomers discovered three of these mysterious objects during. During the amiable evolutionary map of the universe survey, which is being conducted on as cap, the Australian square kilometer array, Pathfinder Radio Telescope, located in outback Western, Australia the fourth, was discovered by the giant Mita Wave Radio Telescope in India and the fact that it was found by different instrument helps astronomers confirm that these objects are in fact real, and not some unusual artifact or anomaly, caused by issues with as caps thirty six parabolic dish array for now at least the mystery continues. This space time. Still to come construction about to begin on the square kilometer array, and if you're listening in the Northern Hemisphere, and you haven't checked it out yet, you really should go outside and scope out comet neo wise. Most to come on space time. Well, it looks like instruction is finally about to begin on what will be the world's largest radio telescope, the gigantic square kilometer array project the move into building phase, all seven years of design and prototyping work by scientists engineers from around the world more than one point, eight seven billion euros will be spent on the megaproject over the next ten years headquartered at the Judge Obama Observatory near Manchester in England, the project will use to networks of hundreds of dishes and thousands of antennas street it over hundreds of kilometers of the Western. Western Australian, outback and the South African Karoo the square kilometer array will explore the entire history and evolution of the universe in the process, uncovering new, and as yet still unimagined fundamental physics. It's she size and range of operating frequencies will make this observatory at least fifty times more sensitive than any other radio telescope instrument in the world. Two of the world's biggest and fastest supercomputers have been built to process the unprecedent amounts of data expected to be produced by the Observatory. In fact, some six hundred Peta bytes of data is expected. Expected to be stored and distributed worldwide to the sides community every year. That's enough to for more than a million top end laptops. The Australian portion of the way will contain the low frequency. Telescopes include phased arrays, comprising some one hundred and thirty thousand dipoto antennas, covering the fifty to three hundred and fifty megahertz frequency range, though be gripped in one hundred made a at tiles, each contain about ninety elements together with their associated electronics. It'll be spread over thousands of square kilometers at the IRS Murchison Radio Astronomy Observatory in with them. Them Stralia located. Some eight hundred kilometers northeast of Perth Observatory already has two main operational instruments. There's the Australian square kilometer array pathfinder as CAP, which uses thirty, six, identical, twelve, a parabolic dishes, working together as a single instrument revived fast survey, speed and high sensitivity. Then there's the murchison wide filled array of eighty three hundred megahertz and low frequency, fully cross, correlating single die Paul's on one hundred twenty eight face tiles H, comprising sixteen die Paul's a third separate instrument of the facility is edges the experimented a tick the global. Signature and and low noise amplifier radio telescope. It's designed to detect the twenty one centimeter redshift shifted hydrogen lied from the Cosmic Dawn and the APEC of reorganization, which corresponds to Orig- of twenty seven, meanwhile, the South African portion of the S K will house the mid frequency array. It'll includes several thousand twelve made a diameter parabolic dish antennas each equipped with a small multi. Multi being phased array feed and a large food of view, covering the three hundred and fifty megahertz, the four gigahertz frequency range already on site is the South African precursor facility known as make at it includes an array of sixty four thirty point five meter dishes, covering the five hundred eighty megahertz, fourteen gigahertz range, plus the seven dish cat, seven engineering and science testbed instrument. The International Center for Radio Astronomy Research University S. K leader Professor Stephen King Gay, sister Apache work has been accelerating the past two years as key technical milestones reached it between Australia physics. You get full picture when you can observe the same part of the sky. Object in multiple different different live. Lang's but having said that there are awesome some. Special things about radio, wives, one really notch property is that telescopes can operate twenty four hours a day seven days awake so daytime, not time done affect the radio lives. Atmosphere doesn't affect the radio wives, so you don't break the telescopes fulltime. That's one thing. The other thing is that there are some physical processes that a really important in the universe that specifically produce radio is sorry, for example, the most abundant elements in the universe hydrogen, which is one Proton one electron. Produces radio waves at a very very specific frequency. Walk one point four two. So you WANNA try all of the hydrogen in the universe, and use it as a probe for environments, and also how the universe is evolving. You made to do that with radio. Tell us guts to detect those radio whites. Is that what they call the twenty one centimeter band? That's right they the one point. Four three gigahertz frequency corresponds to a length old. On sentiment, and says as cap and the Murchison Wide Silver Ray. How do they fit in with this project so the? Such. An undertaking that it's orders of magnitude more complicated than previous radio telescopes bicycling. Don't get there in months. So before getting to the sky, global community decided to produce a small number of precursors telescopes that was sort of stepping stones to the sky, so there were four of those two in South Africa and two in Australia in Australia. We have the Australian. Talk find out which is being built and operated by Sierra, and we have the Murchison Wide Field. Right, which is a low frequency telescope, so direct precursor for the sky, and that operated by university on behalf of I. An international consortium of Twenty one organisations in six countries. Yeah, when you look at something like ice cap. It looks like the sort of thing you'd expect with a radio telescope, a whole bunch of parabolic dishes I think there are thirty six admitted dishes or pointing towards the sky when you look at the. Way The Murchison Y Food Rake. This looks like a paddock full of Die Paul Antennas the sort of things it may be used to watch TV with muscle. Yeah, no, that's that's spot on so that the dishes the some satellite dish all technology if you like is well suited to. Hold on frequencies, so cap operates sort of gigahertz to to Tequilla. That's inside of the technology works well. At the lower frequencies, you can get away with the much simple talk of antennas. What you've described city W I is spot on these antennas that look a little bit like a a. they intended to someone what have on there, so it means he can produce a large tame tennis very cheaply. They also simply on the ground I. Don't move. There are nine. And all of the all of the operation of where it's pointing, win is all control the electronically, so there's no extractions to move around point. To of the sky, so it means the incredibly cost, effective instruments, and really cost effective tonight tying which means that you can build a lot of them. That's what makes the sky possible and you've been looking at different styles with these two. Haven't you? I've seen that Christmas trees and and designs who wants at least that like Hula hoops and things like that? That's right there There are lots of different antennas lines that work well at low frequencies and many tenor design so. Fundamentally nine guides h of them have different properties different responses to the sky. Different frequency ranges so it's a matter of finding a balance between the performance characteristics you want from an antenna donald stuff against the the cost to produce them basically so there's a bit of an optimization between performance and cost, so we've been exploring several different antenna thoughts to look. Hey you're going to be using just the one top. US, some panels with Christmas trees of with sties have. Yeah, it's generally not a good ID. Ten types because we have to understand the performance of the instrument at very very stringent level, so understanding the electronic performance on the standing stability, understanding its response to the sky, and anytime you mix to things together. You not only need to understand that individually at that level that you need to understand their combination at that level as well which is pretty complicated, so we'll be sticking. Sticking to a single 'cause, then tenor in the town decided which one the the current references on line as we call, it is the the Christmas tree style of antennas, which is much bigger than the end wfan tennis more expensive, but it has a more extended frequency Ryan the top end of the frequency bands, so there are some pros and cons, but that's the current choice the. Thousands of that's right so one hundred thirty thousand individual antennas, those antennas will be grouped up into all stations, so each station will have about two hundred fifty six antennas and beautiful afforded five hundred stations scattered out across the Murchison of several thousand square kilometers ticket. The Murchison was chosing his radio quiet area. That's right CHARLOTTE. Murchison is Australia's only Shah without Gazeta town. It has a population of around about hundred people, and it has a land area equivalent to the Netherlands so it's very sparsely populated, which means to this radio caught so any TV fm any form of what, makes. That yeah, so all all of those signals vastly swamped. The really wakes. Me Seeking to collect from the universe, so the first thing we do is build out radio telescopes as far away from people as possible, but just being mindful that connect to Palo. We need very high speed communications, and we need a level of infrastructure and pay nearby to support instrument, and that Husky Communications is important because you've got to literally send I was GonNa say buckets, but it's more than that. that it's like stormwater drains full of information through pipes to Shiva computers in Perth so that the whole thing could be crunched and you can work at what you need, you need. Yeah, that's right and that's one of the significant challenges for the sky. Is that enroll form? The telescope will produce just general amounts of Data Kodi that will at some level be processed and the data call you recuse. skyping. The died of nate to come from the telescope down to Earth. In the first instance to be story in Sipa competing standards even off, it's so the process then reduced in volume. He's still going to amount to around about an exit data to year. That needs to be stored and utilized for the fun science. So an exit boy is a thousand headlights and bought is thousand terabytes. If you've got A. Pretty decent fairly new computer at high, you might have one terabyte onboard, so an excellent is a medium size and collect that every year there's going to be the stuff coming from South Africa as well, you say they've got to field. Set up there as well with precursors. Tell me about the one of the precursors as cold hero, and it's in some ways a little bit similar to BMW I. It has caught similar. Scientific Goals Ovalles a bit narrower than the W W is really. multipurpose instrument. About here upright set the the same sorts of frequency, and says the N. W. I, and has the signed sorts of science goals, and the other precursor called me cat google. What a great name! Yeah, exactly, it's a fix to get an awfully and Siamese. Cat Again is based on the satellite dish stall technology similar to ask or price in a similar frequency Ryan. Jr Fit the interesting thing about me. Cut Is that it will in itself form part of the s guy, so the guy in South Africa will be an extension to make cat so that Prato so will be encompassing to the fond list. Awful lot of these type dishes. Yes, so in the. The first instance it's around about two hundred to the guy in South Africa one of the questions. You'll have to answer using the K- It's a good question as I see here on glancing across it, my bookshelf where there are two volumes cold, advancing astrophysics with the sky-high h volumes about five kilograms, and several hundred chapters in those volumes, describing several hundred science goals for the A. Couple of headline areas of signs so with the low frequency s Kinda that the. To be. The, most fun it'll impact science that we hope to do is to look back in time about thirteen billion years to the theory in the universe roughly speaking. After the Big Bang and we're going to attempt to watch all of that. Hydrogen gas that remember produces all of radio. Wives form into the first stars and galaxies in the universe realization. Yeah, this is the so-called Epoca Brianna is ation interns. The normal matter produced out of the Big Bang almost exclusively Hodgson gas and the cost of the first being years that guests created under under gravity, and started to form stars and galaxies, as stars and galaxies ignited the high energy. photons produced dotted. Today in on is three reminding hydrogen guests around the and so you sort of get. The scalloped season starts blowing up what we call on. On is bubbles as soon as the hydrogens on is, it doesn't produce the radio waves anymore, so we can look back using the low frequency telescope, and look for the mixture of the on is tied Jim and the neutral hydrogen, which does produce the radio wives from that we can map out out. The first structures in the universe formed stars and galaxies then went on to produce new generations of stars and ultimately produce walk in the universe that could give you some clues as to win dot matic ham about it's eight. Yeah, it's entirely possibles, but in that story I was really careful to refer to the the normal. Berry, matter you and on idol of and we're all familiar. It turns out that that normal matter makes up only about five percent of the universe, so the other ninety five percent is produced, is made up of something, the cold, dark energy and something that we call Doc Matt so dock matter had scruffy, but the properties of no matter, and it's one of the big mysteries in in physics. Wha, what is dark? Matter what he's doc energy so in the process of examining how based first stars and galaxies produced. That's. That's luckily that the distribution of talk matter in the universe at that early stage had a big influence, so we to be able to shed some light on documentaries, vets professor Stephen. King Gay from the university note of the International. Center for Radio Astronomy. Research and this is based time I'm Stewart Gary still to come a comet sky show spectacular, gracing the skies, and later in the science report, human trials of potential new COVID, nineteen vaccine have commenced in Queensland all that and more still to come on space time. Long. Well. If you're listening to us from the Northern Hemisphere and you haven't checked it out yet. You really should go outside the scope out comet, neo wise seat, two, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, three neo wise made it's close to the pros at the Sun on July the third swooping just inside the orbit of Mercury it'll cross open on its way back to the dugout rooms of the solar system by mid August. It's already providing sky watches with. With spectacular once in a lifetime commentary display, having lit up the early morning skies now before dawn for the past few weeks. Yeah, wise, he's now moving into the evening skies close to the horizon in the northeast, just after sunset the spectacular play being put on by this five kilometer wide comment is all thanks to its close fly over the sun, which hate it up and cook lots of the volatile materials inside the comet causing them. them to boil and vaporize erupting through the icy crust and creating a huge coma with a spectacular debris trail, even the crew aboard the International Space Station of enjoy the spectacle from there orbiting vantage point I above the Earth's atmosphere, and it's the sort of thing anyone in the right part of the world will be able to enjoy. You should be able to see the comet central core nucleus with the unaided eye tax guys, and if you've. You've got access to a small backyard telescope or a good pair of binoculars. You'll get an even bit of you of the comets fuzzy coma, and it's long streaking tail. The Commerce was discovered by Neil wise in the era of object, wide field infrared survey explorer spacecraft back on March the twenty seventh, using its two infrared channels, which are sensitive to heat singers given off by the object as the sun started to turn up the aid. Of course, the people who Sydney and along the New South Wales South and central coast had their own sky show last weekend as a medial straight across the night sky, just in time to make an almost live appearance on local evening television news services, social media was lit up with images and videos of the celestial sky show, green colored meal, causing quite a commotion, as it moved from east to southwest above the city skyline, leaving a fiery trail, able from misfire food assessment in the valley, as well as Bondi beach in the east colonel in the South and Mossman on the harbor or reported, the spectacle made even more stunning by lightening from distant thunderstorms this space time. And take a brief look at some of the other stories making news in science this week or the science report him trials of potential new COVID, nineteen vaccine have begun in Queensland early early phase, clinical trials by the University of Queensland will involve an initial wanted twenty volunteers. More than four thousand people applied. This initial trial will evaluate the safety and immune response to the vaccine in a group of healthy volunteers. Testing has shown that this protein only vaccine was. In the laboratory, neutralizing the virus and proving safe to humans, preliminary results are expected in about three months before that goes well, scientists will move onto the next stage in the vaccine's development with a larger trout, the see how the vaccine works across a larger population. The clinical batch of the vaccine was manufactured through a close partnership between the University of Queensland and. And the Siro with technical assistance from Australian biotech company CSL formerly the Komo Serum laboratories, which will manufacture the final product. If it's ultimately approved, four goes well, the vaccine could be available early in the New Year, and, of course it's not alone. There are currently some one hundred and eighty vaccines being developed around the world, including several others right here in Australia. The World Health. Organization is under fire from scientists and medical doctors after confirming that it won't visit the Wuhan Institute of Rolly. As part of its investigation into the cause of the COVID nineteen corona virus, the virus is believed to have leaked from the class four high security laboratory into the general population. The unusual move is in line with the World Health Organization staunch for Beijing despite mounting independent evidence that the Chinese government covered up vital details. Details in the virus including it's human to human transmissibility for several months while at the same time, allowing infected people from hand to continue traveling around the world yet banning them from travelling to other parts of China, the virus, which is infected more than forty million people and killed more than six hundred, thousand originated in Wuhan around November last year Beijing and the World Health Organization didn't admit there was a problem until the end of December. Whistleblower doctors and journalists speaking out about China's actions, either suddenly died, being jailed, or simply disappeared, and Beijing has been imposing stiff sanctions against countries criticizing its behavior. And you study ones that animals will struggle to adapt to the warming effects of climate change a report in the Journal, the proceedings of the Royal Society be looked at two thousand and fifty nine separate animal species, finding that it'll be much hot of animals to adapt to the extreme hate. Then extreme cold in a rapidly warming world, animals examined, included amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals from a wide variety of different climates with researchers finding they were able to evolve tolerances too extreme card faster than to extreme hate meaning, they may struggle to catch up without ever increasing global temperature. And he studies found that hearing could be the last since to go during the process of dying. The findings, which is published in the Journal scientific reports are based on eeg's which measure electrical activity in the brain and sure that people may still be able to hear while in an unresponsive state at the end of their lives, scientists analyze data collected from healthy control patients from hospice patients when they're unconscious and from the same hospice patients when they become unresponsive in the final house before an. An expected natural death, many people interim period of unresponsiveness, the data shows that a dying brain can respond to sound even in an unconscious state up to the final hours of life. The finding suggests that those last goodbyes may will provide a comfort for loved ones during the final moments, and it's probably another good reason, not be using the term switch are off to someone on life support. Researches have come up with a handy guide to conspiratorial thinking inspired by the Covid Nineteen Corona virus and the plan democ pseudo documentary to minimum from Australian, skeptic, says the seven characteristics listed in the guide. Really do help identify those suffering from conspiratorial. You'd think to what Jeff foe you know. It's like Talk of our saw up fever. You have a coffee have trouble breathing. This is actually designed to people who believe that corrective ours conspiracy I have little traits that you can look at various things especially in in response to this documentary planned damage, which is conspiracy about Toronto, Vars, which itself has been heavily criticised when plant there s I went viral they. Created a Lotta a Lotta response, a lot of who knew better than the people who the documentary. Really neither have experts say they did they developed. In response to to that in general to the second suzy theories. Guide to the issues. Although the things you will find that conspiracy believe is always Come up wanting contradictory beliefs now believed to things at the same time that corrective ours doesn't exist is finally and that it was created they kind of have it both ways, but that's something that crops up and is quite common in conspiracy theory, people mind, having different beliefs for the science, two or three or more collation at the same time that a contradictory, the second one is overrunning suspicion, which is basically Everything's crooked. You'll cruise you. Try and criticize me. You're part of the conspiracy. It's everything everything that. There was such thing as a trustworthy official experience, so he off on the wrong track. You just can't sort of when you find someone who's saying. Yeah, you're part of the conspiracy. This is that's part of it and your uncle. Bob Started as well. You say well. Yeah, we go from here, but that's a common thing. Obviously, there's bad intent on the people who are creating the conspiracy conspiratorial. They try to run the world. They're trying to sort of put me in jail trying to ruin me professionally trying to sort of control people, they're trying to population damn trying to control the population having Nice because there's a very evil intent by the. Government slash business slash military slash media flex whichever sort of slash you want I can drag it as many people who live, and they were all evil, and they're all APP to do something and surprisingly threat to do because apparently very open, because all the conspiracy theories theaters talk about them quite openly, so not that sacred. They know that something is wrong, and so that's the fullest before they know that something is wrong, sometimes that what it is because they just have a feeling that something is wrong, so basically is feeling sort of world. If against them, things are unstable with things off and on cow part of life. Yeah, something's fishy about this I just. Just don't understand it because there's it's based on understanding what the situation is, but then trying to think you should. Perhaps you should obviously a victim in this and supposedly individual, the conspiracy theorists are personally persecuted by them. Casualty them because I. have this special knowledge sharing every way it's basically it's make themselves seem more important than I really are. That's what they that's the ultimate reason for being a conspiracy theorist to keep yourself a bit of kid by having special knowledge and stuff that you didn't know the immediate evidence, so that's what we've discussed before I night. It doesn't matter how much stuff you can give them that free bunks the theories that they will. Ignore it or they'll find a way to to Robinson away, but jade just might look at it at all. If China lost by leaping, and they will just listen to each other thing, random random random round around with the same sort of evidence quite so conspiracies loss they reinterprets randomness, and that's what. kind of life and things happen often united. Raise some why things happen, but someone say there must be a raised night areas. Maybe there isn't, but that doesn't mean that. That's a conspiracy, but. Conspiratorial. Thinkers people who fall like conspiracy theories, we'll try and find connections, connection, connection, evil, and sinister, and they will create patents we there ain't none George. Mole gift. Yeah I mean yeah. It's the classic thing. Is the man in the Moon Right? That's a random patented people. See your face right actually I think China's. It's a it's a red and another culture with Samantha wheelbarrows. so I mean. Yeah, you'll see what you want to say. You see against Isis clamps. That sort of stuff is classic sort of. Trump to see thing, a pathway, none really exists, but also about they will be on just faces, and that sort of stuff it's. It's actually conspiracies and government actions, and you create a I very lodge construction based on these patents that really have these connections between this and that and the other thing where there really ain't nothing. Funny actually because sometimes a black cat crossing your path. Simply it's going somewheres. Grechko Max would say. Yes, that's right. On, this is only after you, that's. From Australian skeptics. And that's the show for now space-time is broadcast on sites owned radio by the National Science Foundation in Washington DC, and through both IHEART radio and on shooting radio, or you can subscribe and Download Space Time as a free podcast through apple stitcher. Bites Dot. 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Politics with Amy Walter: The Impact of Black Voters: When We Show Up, We Transform How Power Operates

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Politics with Amy Walter: The Impact of Black Voters: When We Show Up, We Transform How Power Operates

"It's politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway, when it comes to elections, there's always a key voting bloc that gets the media attention. You know, if candidate x wins fill in the blank vote that when the election, we've heard that about the Latino vote. Oh, well, when the election, three weeks from now, the outcome could depend on. How members of one very large constituency respond to the urgent call Vogta, the white working class with the general election in mind. Hillary Clinton is on a two day swing through Appalachia trying to connect with rural white working class voters. Appalachia coal has taken a huge hit and suburban women. Women white and educated experts say they hold the key to this year's midterms. Can I have a salad to go, but a core constituency of the democratic electorate has not gotten the same level of attention African Americans African Americans are just like other voters they need to be asked. They need to be at not taken for granted, they need to be included. That's congresswoman Gwen Moore. She represents the fourth district of Wisconsin, which includes Milwaukee county, a democratic stronghold where sixty thousand fewer votes were cast in two thousand sixteen then in two thousand twelve congresswoman more thinks that's because Democrats didn't campaign hard enough in her district. You could hear a mouse, peon cat in Milwaukee. It was so slow still the narrative that emerged about the Democrats loss in two thousand sixteen was about the white working class. And then this happened aren't seeing that projects. Doug Jones, the democrat, he will be the next United States, Senator from Alabama with a Phoenix Republican, ROY Moore. I Alabama democrat. That in a quarter century, President Trump has just tweeted his, congratulations to the Democrats. This is a dramatic democratic upset in deep. Red Alabama, a ruby. Red staying coming the first democratic Senator from Alabama in a generation. Waiting all my life. And now I just don't know what the hell the big story here is the African American turnout. Lock American showed up in record numbers, as we've been reporting the numbers the percentages that came out to this election, especially black women African Americans made up twenty nine percent of Alabama voters. Rival what we saw for presidential elections with the first African American president. Barack Obama, Doug. Jones wins the Senate race in Alabama of victory due in large part to the influence of African American voters, the party itself. It knowledge for the first time that black women were the core, that was a turning point, according to Amy Allison, founder of she the people, and I would also extend that to women of color to Asian American women who are the second most progressive force, a fast growing part of the electorate and Latina's as well as, as most lymphoid IRS, this is a group, aggressive voters, and we never got much credit or respect or investment in our strategy. Lisa Garza agrees. She's a founder of the black lives matter, global network, and the head of the black futures lab, the frustration that I think a lot of black communities faced was that it was already assumed that black, people would vote for a particular candidate. And I think what we saw instead was that because of the lack of engagement in black communities, specifically after the administration of the first black president of the United States is the black turnout went down and Democrats lost the election. So what are they doing about it? The black futures lab set out to survey black people about their experiences with the aim of actually listening to them. The results of the survey were recently released a report, titled more black than blue politics and power in the twenty nineteen. Black senses. I spoke with a leash Garza about the findings issues that let communities find are the most pressing problems facing our communities in our survey sample, low wages that are not enough to support a family, the rising cost of college, unaffordable healthcare, it looks at unaffordable housing, as some of the top issues, that black communities are facing another issue that we found that black communities were facing is a concern about violence, that exists in our communities, particularly police, violence and violence, that is, as a result of policing is interesting. When I when I look at the those list of priorities where and how. Intensely black voters feel about those kind of reads like a Bernie Sanders press release, and yet Bernie Sanders did really struggle in two thousand sixteen winning over African American voters black voters and continues to have to answer questions about why he's not doing as well among black voters this time. Can you help square that circle he's hitting all of the issues, but he's not winning over the voters. I think that it's really not just a Bernie Sanders problem though, we did see this very poignantly twenty sixteen certainly in the primary between Bernie Sanders and secretary Clinton. But to be honest, it's a problem that exists in politics in general where what you have is advice that's being given by consulting firms that are largely white led that will tell you that black voters are already in the pocket that you should not talk about issues of race. You'll see pundits out, you know on. In the new circuits saying that things like identity politics are splitting the parties. And I think what we find on the ground is that people understand very clearly that what's dividing us is not talking about race. What's dividing us is not talking about the racial divide. And so when you try and talk about issues in such a way where they are presented as a silver bullet that affects all communities equally. The only people that lose from that to be Frank are the people who are locked out of the economy, the people who are locked out of her sparingly, and the people who are locked into poverty, and the reality is when we look at poverty rates in this country, and we look at who is concentrated under the poverty line. It is communities of color in, it is black communities. It was not a surprise to us that low wages that were not enough to support a family were one of the top issues, impacting black census respondents, what was surprising to us. Is that candidates in their campaign? Pains continue to push race neutral messaging when we all know that the economy is racialist. We are all very clear that communities of color tend to be locked into low wage low paying low grow jobs. We know that those jobs tend to not carry medical benefits or health benefits. We know that those jobs are often lacking out communities, who may have histories of incarceration. And of course, we know that black communities are disproportionately incarcerated. And when we look at black women in particular, who have been seen as a key block of black communities for a supportive voting base for the Democratic Party. We find that black women populations are increasing imprisons jails across the country. And the number one reason that black women are being locked up at disproportionate rates is because of economic crimes things like passing a bad check or other ways in which black women have found. And that they have had to learn how to survive, when you listen to many of these Democrats, almost all of these Democrats. Now when they are talking about issues like the economy, they are using words like structural racism, they are talking now about these issues in a way that quite frankly, I don't know that we've heard before from multiple candidates is not just one candidate. That's doing this. Do you think that's a sign that democratic candidates are getting it? Are you wary that they are using the words but they may not follow through on the actions? Well, this is an important question. And I would answer it two ways. I think that the reason that candidates, some candidates on the democratic side are now starting to talk about structural racism is because they've been forced to buy a movement that has changed the country and to be Frank black, people have been changing the landscape of politics in this country over. The last six years, or more, that's largely related to the uprising in many communities across the country in relationship to policing police violence, and police accountability, which has unlocked additional conversations about the ways in which black people are facing barriers that don't allow us to succeed under any circumstances. I thought this sentence, my producer both. Agreed. This was really powerful where you said that electorally engaged respondents do not need to convince those who are less engaged about what problems are important or even which solutions to adopt, but rather about the effectiveness of taking action and other words, the challenge isn't that those who are not involved, politically are doing so because they don't have problems that are similar to those who are involved, politically, or that they don't agree on the solutions with people who are engaged politically, but that they say you know what? It's not gonna matter. Whether I vote or not, because I don't trust that the system's going to work. I mean, I think we see that certainly generational -i. There are a whole set of current and potential voters who don't have the lived experience of not being able to vote by law, but certainly have the lived experience of their government leaving them behind. I can tell you that a huge politicizing moment in my life was the Rodney King trials, right? Where essentially, you know, several white officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King to a pulp, that is an example of how black communities feel that government doesn't have their back. And that change is not actually inevitable fast forward a little bit. You see these young people have the experience of black people being left on roofs in Louisiana at during Hurricane Katrina, these black people. Will have the experience of unarmed, black people being killed by the police, and those police officers, not being held accountable, and in fact, as we speak right now, the officers who killed Eric garner are on trial. This is a defining aspect of a particular generation, who we expect to engage in politics, as it is a successful campaign in a successful candidate will be able to understand how to bridge, the gap between the experiences of older black voters in this country and younger black voters in this country, both of whom share concerns about the same issues. But one of those groups feels that it is not inevitable that change will happen through elections. What I know this that elections, don't change everything. But they certainly do matter elections are the platform upon which we can insert our demands for what we want from our government what we want. Our representatives, and what we want from our democracy. And it's important that if a candidate wants to win the black vote and understands how important the black vote is to them, becoming an elected official representing our communities that they are really going to have to speak to the issues that we care about. They're going to have to demonstrate that they have some literacy in terms of how structural racism and gender pression, things like that shape. Our lives, but they're also going to have to come with it with the set of policies that prove that they understand how to get through those barriers ensure that black families can live well, just like all families in America deserve to live. Well, we Garza, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with me. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Before we get to the general election, we have to look at the primary, and they're ever gonna American voters have a very big role to play in two thousand sixteen black voters made up a quarter of the electorate, one of the first primary states is South Carolina, and black voters. There are a majority of the democratic primary electric Joe Biden is in the lead there. Even though there are multiple black candidates on the ballot. I always say the Joe Biden has an Obama, halo. And he's gonna judge Obama curve. That's because sellers performer, South Carolina state Representative and a CNN political commentator, who was endorsed, comma Harris, and he skeptical that Biden is going to keep that lead of talking to my dad recently who's kind of compass. You know, my dad is the person whom goes to the grocery store, every day spent two hours in talking to people in and goes and spends, another thirty minutes talking to people at the post office, we live in a small town with three stop lights and a blinking light. And my dad said look, everybody I talked to I hear likes Joe Biden to the person. They like Joe by. But he also said, ain't nobody go missing vent ain't nobody going be late to work. They nobody's gonna be late to dinner to go vote for Joe Biden, so that talks about that level of excitement is just not there, things can change. But at the election was today, Donald Trump would still probably be president of the United States, this, even though in twenty eight teen you had incredible surges in turn out from young voters and from voters of color, despite the fact that a lot of Democrats on the ballot in, especially in some of these mid western states weren't exactly the most exciting kind of candidates. Do you think that suggests that may be the motivating factor of Trump can overcome the sort of not energizing democratic nominee? It's going play a role. But I we can't rely on Trump to be our turn out mechanism people had to be excited about what you're going to do for them. Some candidates are trying to do that. There's some who are running substance driven campaign, and I think substance, we usually wins. That's people will probably turn their nose up when they hear me say that, but giving people a reason to vote for them instead of saying, I'm not someone else is usually the way to, to win elections. And we have to do a better job of that. Do you think that the candidates now are taking African American voters more seriously now than they were in previous elections? I think so. I mean because I believe that African American voters are holding candidates, more accountable. I mean you have to have an agenda for black America, period. There's no more showing up at the church come into a high school football game and doing a fish fry two months before the election. Thank you get black votes that no longer works. So this is going to be something that candidates are going to have to pay attention to Bernie Sanders got destroyed in twenty sixteen in the south, and he lost a primary effectively in the south because he could not figure out a way to communicate with voters of color. A lot of candidates have learned that lesson. And right now, we're saying one of my very good friends. Pete Buddha jets have had those same struggles Atta phone call with someone from Pete's camp asking, you know, just how do we get black voters because they had these events in South Carolina's in black voters aren't coming to them. And I said, that's part of your problem, Pete's problem is that he's waiting on black voters to come to him, don't know black voters know him. So they don't trust them. So he's going to have to meet them where they are. And I think that this is a learning curve for a lot of these candidates running for president. And when you think about this internal debate that seems to be going on between winning over these white working class voters who defected in two thousand sixteen versus keeping the base energized. How do you think this plays out? Well, unfortunately, it's become or conversation. Let me back. I people defined working class. Unfortunately, and that's code for white voters. When there are a lot of working class black and Brown voters in this country as well. But I don't. Think it's a or proposition, I think it's an an proposition and I think that we have to focus on driving the base out. I just have a hard time believing that somebody who voted for Barack Obama and then, voted for Donald Trump is going to all of a sudden come back to the Democratic Party. That's just my, my fundamental belief. You talked to all voters and you give them all the reason to vote for you. But you don't bet on all voters and I'm not betting on individuals to come back. I'm about expanding and creating new voters in new parts of the electorate. So let's talk about the South Carolina primary. Now place. You knew quite well, Jen, your state Representative there, you, you worked for Obama in two thousand and eight there and you're backing, comma, Harris now, the thing about South Carolina in the past, at least the most recent pass await and sixteen is that one candidate was able to really consolidate the African American vote in seventy five eighty five percent of the vote Obama and eight Hillary Clinton in sixteen. I'm going to say that's probably not going to happen this time. Do you agree? That the vote is going to be split among many candidates, or there will be a consolidated another won't be consolidated say that saying my good friend and brother, Cory Booker has not had the best showing in polls. He's around two percent. So if he is still around in South Carolina. All that is the most important thing I think that you will see Joe Biden and calmly Harris take a large portion of the black vote in Cory Booker. Take us leather if he's not. I think that could be a determining factor between who wins that race I had being very close in South Carolina between Kamla and Joe. And then the kicker is, you know, people like to talk about the California primary, and how many delegates heart steak and all of that good stuff. But you also have Regina North Carolina, Georgia Arkansas Mississippi on Super Tuesday, and they're going to be a lot of oats to be one in the south, where we know what votes, count, not just black voters, but black women vote. In particular. And you think that South Carolina is, basically going to be a very important signal to voters in those states to say this is the candidate that looks the strongest or this is the front runner right now. Correct. And it helps with it never hurts that had that momentum. I honestly say that Clarke county is probably one of the more important counties in this primary cycle. And that's kind of weird that's very nuance to go down to a county in this primary sackable county, Las Vegas. Harry large portion of black voters in Clark county, Nevada, which are going to help determine that primary process. You know, I think that that will be an important kind of litmus test, and then you'll see a play out on a larger scale in South Carolina. So what you're saying is instead of waiting until South Carolina. Look to see how the candidates do in Clark county, and if can American turnout goes up in Clark county as a sign of who can do well with African American voters in South Carolina, and just a reminder when you when you're looking at Iowa. I mean, there are a lot of slithers you can take, you know, when Barack Obama won that Iowa caucuses, the caucus participation went from two to four so it nearly doubled with African American participation. I most people kind of cast that aside. But when you look back at it over time, you realize that way, that actually was assistant, we can look at not just for the rest of the primary, but it actually played out over the general as well. Because you saw that engagement excitement amongst black voters car sellers. Thank you so much. South Carolina's a really good place for candidates to test their message with African American voters. That's the leash. Eighty a reporter with South Carolina public radio. She's been following the candidates as they campaign across her state. I'm from South Carolina. I grew up in a rural part of Berkeley county, and I remember when President Bill Clinton visited that part of the state back in nineteen ninety six amid the wave of black churches burned in suspicious fires. We have to say all of you who've been afflicted by this. We know that we're not going back to those dark days, but we are now reminded that our job is not done. That visit was a big deal for the people in that area and fast forward, some twenty odd years, same voters and their family members in those same areas. Light Greeleyville in hymning way and manning Gresham in Britain's neck or once again, getting this repeated attention not from the president, but not yet, but from people who say they want to be president. And again, these visits are big deal for this faithful group of democratic voters. Do you think this is different than say in two thousand eight or two thousand sixteen or maybe even going back to two thousand and four just the intense interest? And the number of candidates who are in South Carolina, this early in the process, it does feel different. It really does since the beginning, the beginning of this year since January, we've seen candidates come through, and like I said, earlier, they're going to divert row towns, for example, Senator Cory Booker was in Sumpter South Carolina earlier this year, he had a town hall there. He spoke with students at an HP see, you also Senator Kamla Harris. She was in the small town of him away. Not that long ago when she spoke with students in and, and on an adult's there as well. Also Senator Bernie Sanders, he and I believe bell Rourke. They were both. They both spent some time in Denmark, South Carolina, very small town, high African American population. And then also recently, some really high profile issues in that town. They are dealing with some water issues very similar to that of Flint, Michigan. So I think those visits really stand out with people also manning, South Carolina, that PD region of the state that have seen back toback flooding because of recent hurricanes, and, and rainy vents. We see candidates in that area as well. So I think these repeated it almost seems like strategic repeated visits are sticking out and I really think voters are paying attention. And I think they appreciate having the attention of so many people so early and a lady, I spoke to in Sumpter. Again, at that Cory Booker, townhall, she talks about experiencing this part of the process or early. I appreciate being on the front end to hear exactly what his I'm stances on the different areas. And I actually have about six pages of notes is the reason you think they're going to rural areas and putting a focus on rural areas, especially this early in the process like any relationship you have to put the time in. I think that candidates are realizing that voters are South Carolina black voters here in South Carolina know, the importance of their vote. And I think that they really and because there are so many of them. They're trying to stand out early on with this really important block. And so, I think they really understand that we need to get to these people churches, they're community centers. They're towns. I mean, to let them know our name, so that they can recognize our name when it comes down to vote, how are voters processing this, when you talk to voters after these events or as you're going from town to town? And interviewing people about politics. What are they telling you about this field of candidates? The voters that I've spoken with have again. They are. They appreciate having an having options. I think in the past. Of course, we haven't had twenty four candidates to to them. So they appreciate having options, but even after the town hall, and even after the strong applause, and the and the really good questions that they give to the or the asked to the candidate, they still want details and specifics. And I go back to that town hall with Senator Cory Booker, there was a lady there that asked about prison reform, and then another lady that asked about his stance on how to help people that cannot afford healthcare. They are they appreciate the multiple visits, but they are really looking for details on how they will help them every day of the week because for a lot of residency here, South Carolina, it, it's, it's, it's a struggle for them to make you know, weekend and week out. We also hear from reporter. Offers who are out on the trail in other early states, as well as Carolina that would voters are saying is they're looking for a candidate first and foremost, who can beat Donald Trump. They're looking for the quote unquote, most electable candidate and in that sense. Joe Biden has gotten something of a lift is, is that something that you're hearing from voters that they're looking for ultimately the really looking for somebody who can win November and be Donald Trump, you know, for me that's been kind of hard to gauge. When I talk with voters at these events by far, hands down. Yes, they Donald Trump out of the out of the Oval Office. But then again we see them still gravitate to who their favorites are are immediate. Maybe that's them holding out hope that their favorite can beat Donald Trump. But at a couple of town, halls Senator Kamba Harris head in the capital city and Columbia. There were questions and I talked with voters afterwards who say, yes, we need to get done. Trump out of the office, but they are very strongly behind Senator, comma Harrah's. She has a very strong base here in South Carolina. She's been here. Repeated many, many times, she'll be back here this weekend. And so I'm not exactly sure how that falls. It will be interesting to watch and find out them, you're right there. You're on the ground. You're seeing these candidates in your state seeing voters interact with them is there, something that you are picking up there that just isn't getting talked about by the folks here inside the beltway, what I've noticed is the number of young voters active. And in this process, a lot of the visits from candidates have been to colleges and universities peppered throughout the state and a lot of a lot of kids when I talk with them after the events, they're not shy about it. They wanna know what will be in place to help them with the mounting debt that they're taking on to go to college, and a lot of them seem to be very active in the process. So I think the, the power of the young voter is something that we will continue to see here in South Carolina. It's going to be interesting to see how many of the cast will will come from young, south Carolinians the leash ED reporter for South Carolina public radio. We asked to you, what Democrats need to do to raise black voter turnout in twenty twenty show from Apopka, Florida in order for me to come out for twenty twenty and vote for one of these that the only way they can appeal to me as, if they come out to where we're at my name is melody. I'm calling from lamest and in their four Democrats to reclaim the black vote some equity has to accompany. There were we're tired of the pandering, and we are still really behind in this country due to reasons that are not our fault, and there's no way for us to put our backing behind anyone who is offering something tangible, I this is Leslie from us endless, I think I'm a crack do what they would for any voter, which is fully listen and understand the needs of voters then a trust fees with the democrat. For in my opinion. One great strategy to this is to reach out to leaders of black lead local, grassroots organizations for that type of. earlier I spoke with the car sellers. Former South Carolina, state Representative who backs comma Harris. He says that even though Joe Biden is leading in the polls now due in large part to his support from African American voters. Sellers doesn't think that lead will last of talking to my dad recently kinda my compass. My dad said, look, everybody. I've talked to I hear likes Joe Biden, but he also said, ain't nobody go missing it ain't nobody going to be late to work. They nobody's going to be like the dinner to go vote for Joe Biden, but Ted Johnson, the senior fellow at the Brennan center, who studies African American political and voting behavior as a hard time imagining black voters rallying around anyone else. The President Donald Trump is, historically unpopular with black voters, and Joe Biden is doing well among black voters because he the perception is he is best situated to remove Donald Trump. From the White House. So the things that typically characterize or influence help black voters vote like descriptive representation, but other black candidates or a policy agenda, that specifically addresses questions of civil rights protections, racial equality, those things moved further down the list, and number one becomes who can be Donald Trump. So walk us through why he seen as the most likely to be Donald Trump. I talked to a lot of folks who say, well, it's really because his white guy, and voters, even democratic voters think that the most electable person remains the person has been the most electable for the two hundred plus years. We've seen in this country. It's a white guy is that what's driving this, so, yes. But not that's not the whole of it. I think the undercover agent here is that the black electorate knows that if they want Donald Trump to lose it's not going to be the mobilization of black voters alone. It's going to cause that loss. It will be the mobilization of black voters, plus the ability to win bat, white working class voters that were Obama voters for eight years, but that's switched to Trump or stayed home in two thousand sixteen and Biden is able to combine or at least the perception is he can combine those two factors win over black voters coupled with his steel town, midwest appeal to working class voters looks like by might have a real shot at winning the White House, if he can pull off that coalition. Well, that's really the question, isn't it? Because as you pointed out, these voters, the ones that Joe Biden, theoretically has a best chance of getting back. These are voters who had voted once maybe twice four and African American candidate. What's to say they wouldn't then vote for another African American candidate. Yeah. So I think this isn't two thousand anymore and unfortunately the nation's politics have gotten worse when it comes to matters of race. It used to be that a message of unity, no matter what party you belong to was the norm. And part of the winning message. And whether you follow through on that message was a different question, but that you express a message of racial unity was given and Donald Trump broke the mold, he showed that it is possible to win with a message of racial divisiveness. The thinking that a black candidate can undo the racial resentment doesn't seem like a practical, way forward for black voters specifically, and for the electorate in general. And what about the history that there's recent history of Joe Biden, of course, as vice president. And then there is a history of being Senator for all these years, including votes on issues that are anathema to folks in the African American community or his grilling, and treatment of Anita hill, during that Aaron nineteen Ninety-one is that. Something that is going to be in the back of black voters minds as they think about Joe Biden as a potential nominee. This is a tough question. My sense is black political pragmatism, will absolutely take note of Joe Biden's extensive past, but his legislative record is lower on the priority list, because of how unpopular Trump is we've seen an example of this type of pragmatism where I live here in Virginia, where you have rows north of the governor, it was revealed that he'd worn black face in the eighties, you had the Lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax who've been accused of sexual assault. And then the number three charge democrat, the attorney general also revealed that he had worn black face in the eighties. Something like sixty percent of black Virginians wanted all three of those men to stay in place because of they were removed the next in line would be the Republican speaker of the house of Bella gates. The only thing worse than having potentially a hypocrite or at. Worse a closet racist. In charge of the government is having an explicit party that runs on explicitly racist or originally insensitive, or Zena phobic campaign messages and rhetoric in charge of the state. And so in this way by forgiving candidates of their past you almost ascend to the moral high ground, and those candidates now they are indebted to you accrue political capital that you can use to your benefit should that candidate win. So Joe Biden's pass may actually turn out to be a benefit for black voters. If they're able to hold that pass over his head and force him to be more proactive on questions of civil rights, and racial equality. Well, it's interesting in two thousand sixteen that was something the same theory of the case for the Clinton campaign. Right. It was this man is so dangerous things. He's done are so offensive to women to voters of color that, of course, they're gonna turn out. And of course, they're gonna vote. Against him. And then, of course, we saw that there was a significant drop in turnout, especially among younger, African American voters. A lot of folks are wondering if Democrats are making that same mistake in twenty twenty that if you put just the safest, the guy that looks the most electable on the top of the ticket, that you're gonna have those enthusiasm problems again. Right. And so what happens in sixteen is the Democrats made a massive miscalculation. They thought that black voter turn out with, at least stay steady at the levels that it was in two thousand eight and two thousand twelve but there is nothing in the history of black voting behavior that would suggest a historic black candidate that had won the presidency and the voter turnout that helped that occur that, that turn out, would hold at the same level for a candidate that is not a first time. Black historic campaign or candidacy, the lesson that Democrats should take from. That is you must invest in the outreach efforts that include not just the rhetoric but the state level staffing, and funding to ensure whatever various voting or enthusiasm, gaps at our existing in some of these areas with high black concentrations in the midwest, and Pennsylvania, Florida cetera. Make sure that those folks are mobilized and activated and not rely on Donald Trump's high disapproval numbers as the mobilizing factor. Ted johnson. Thank you so much for coming in talking with me about this. Thank you so much for having me. Okay. We just heard Ted Johnson talking about the importance of mobilising, black voters. If Democrats want to win the White House in twenty twenty one person leading that mobilization effort is Amy Allison, the founder of the political groups, she the people, I spoke to Amy Allison back in April about the, she the people presidential forum that she organized, which was attended by eight presidential candidates, and was focused on women of color, a part of our conversation that wasn't able to be included in that show was about the goals of her organization, as a whole black, women have high turnout are reliable, not only just in the south, but every major win the Democrats have had have been because of women of color, you know, being loyal Democrats, so we're having this conversation in twenty nineteen in the context of the presidential campaigns. And we know that in the next eighteen months two billion dollars is going to be raised and spent on the business, the electoral pollen. Ticks, that's everything from investing in TV ads to making a decision to have people on the ground and knocking on doors. Which voters, are you gonna message to and reach out to and who matters? And if you go for moderate, white voters, and that's the cornerstone of what you hope to be winning strategy will not be successful, because the, the energy and the most likely Democrats are in places where you've got speak to women of color, and having this debate right now shows that not all Democrats, especially stout, establishment Democrats, haven't gotten the memo, but because I've been a longtime supporter of Stacey Abrams, for example, in Georgia Southern state. I watched how she built a coalition lean deeply into a women of color, particularly black women who are forty percent of the Democratic Party, electorate and built a coalition around them and expanded the possibilities for Democrats closer closer to flipping Georgia than they ever have been thanks to that. Strategy. I want all those presidential campaigns to understand if they adopt that strategy and they start now eighteen months ahead. They can use the dollars to actually expand the electorate but more importantly to be Trump and that's the argument that we're in right now. And I think there's some Democrats in the party and influential, and some donors were listening and others still still have to unlearn the biases that lead them to a losing strategy. We've got to change things. So who do you think has been doing the good job of that? And who as you pointed out, you think not gotten a memo? Well, I will say based on and I can't I don't have his ability to what all the campaigns are doing right now. But what's obvious to me, is comma Harris by going into the south by directly going to events and organizations with black women alpha Kappa alpha sorority, Inc. We fanned on the shoulders of women who were leaders she's leaning into the base. And that is a good indication that she understands the dynamics of how to win based on a multi-racial coalition. In other words, it's like the Obama coalition, which is very powerful. But you know new style. I think her campaign has shown indications that, that's the way that they're organizing themselves Elizabeth Warren, also, she's going to places like Mississippi her her. And I saw with her the presidential form her ability to weave in racial, Justice economic Justice us, talking about black maternal health and talking about. How we deal with the fact that three times as many, black women die in childbirth, in white women, how to deal with this crisis. And she said, I wanna talk to the hospitals where most of these births, take place, and I want to talk to them in the language. They understand money. And so the way that she was able to marry those two very critical elements that appealed women of color, coupled with the fact that the campaign has been spending a lot of time in the states. There are seven states that are majority people of color were women of color are the majority of women, and she is definitely appealing and deepening, her appeal to particularly black women, but to women of color, I think those two campaigns are showing that they're serious about building an infrastructure that I think not only sets them in a really good position for the primary, but sets up all the necessary components of a successful campaign, some of these states, this argument has been raging now in an among Democrats now since twenty sixteen that there's an either or strategy either you go, and you win back working class whites and appeal to suburban college educated, white voters or. Or you can have voters of color and young people as your coalition. What do you say to that? I say that they're always choice. And I would say the Democrats have been organizing themselves on the previous on the on the former in other words, the bulk of the spending, and let's I wanna talk money. It's a business electoral politics is business grounded in values. So if moderate, white voters, you think are the magic pill that's gonna help you win the White House, it affects everything from where you go, where you campaign what organizations and validated that you bring into the campaign where you spend your money, what your messages and how you look at the win number for particular states. I would say without hesitation that the campaigns who are not organized around expanding the electorate force the strongest Democrats are in a weak position to. Actually win the primary and the general because they're relying on and spending the bulk of the resources on the least reliable Democrats out there. We have the numbers to have a winning coalition, when I say women of color are the center of the coalition as a strongest, Democrats, it is that you start from there, but build out a multi-racial inclusive coalition, which includes white voters. It includes the whole range voters, but it is a new way of thinking new playbook that leans deeply into creating a coalition expressly that embraces this identity and centers on these on these voters. So in a state, like Texas Texas went from sixteen point gap to three point gap in this last amid terms. And what that means is Texas could turn blue. But the way that we turn blue is not going after Trump voters in that state the way we turn Texas blue is by tapping into the force of the five million eligible unregistered. Latina's in, in the state. There's incredible numbers that require in investment. So they, you can't say, oh, it's both end and that actually isn't the way that electoral politics has, you know, works. So what we're looking for as women of color, or the campaigns that are ready to do on the ground old-fashioned door to door field organizing in those key states 'cause I think that's gonna be the the key to victory. Amy Ellison is founder of she the people. Back in early twenty seventeen as I read, what felt like the two hundred fiftieth story from a national media outlet. Looking for answers to the twenty sixteen election from rural diner filled with white working class voters and went on something of a tweet storm. The twenty sixteen election was so much more complicated than reporters were describing where were the profiles of the young African American voters who sat out this election. What about the suburban women that Hillary Clinton counted on to turn the tide for her, or the college students who supported Jill Stein? But as we've turned the corner to the twenty twenty election, I am pleased to see that more and more reporters are paying attention to these voters, especially to African American voters and black voters are also making it clear that they aren't going to be patiently waiting for democratic candidates define them. They're demanding level of accountability and attention, they have not been afforded in previous elections, and they aren't shy about calling out those who fail to do. So it's also likely that this. This is the first primary election, at least in my memory, where the African American vote may not consolidate behind one candidate back in two thousand and eight the majority of African Americans supported Obama in two thousand sixteen they were behind Hillary Clinton, and that near universal support from black voters was critical to their ability to win the nomination. But what happens when that vote is split multiple ways over multiple primaries? No one really knows, which is yet another reason why the democratic primary is so fluid, and so in predictable, that's all for us today. We appreciate you being with us this week special shout out to our associate producer Lydia. Jean cot, who is leaving the show Eljay. Thank you for everything. We're gonna miss you. 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Ep 276 | The Problem Warping Our Democracy

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Ep 276 | The Problem Warping Our Democracy

"Happy monday. Welcome to the news. And why it matters. I am Sara Gonzalez joined by a bunch of testosterone here at the table. Today. Stew at the top story for you. Astral point. There are four hundred and eleven people I think now running for president and the Democratic Party. We're going to do this thing called power rankings where we've got a nice little formula that figures out who is the least likely to win the nomination who's the most likely we're gonna countdown all four hundred eleven that's gonna be our special six hour episode of the white matter. I didn't find up for that. You'll love it. It's going to it's going to be fantastic. Andrew something is warping democracy. And I'm going to reveal it come up with a cure. Wow. All right kidding. I'm going to talk about something. I am all too familiar with working at this network being falsely accused. But whatever thank you. Let's get into. I think our sponsor radius own so summer is coming up. 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You can get thirty percent off of a three months supply right now that will get you into summer, and you can feel good, and you can look good on the beach or by the pool or wherever with radio at rezone dot com. Stu power rankings. Yes. So we just like we have to do all four hundred. Yeah. Oh, definitely we give these people are do the running for president. They could be leading the free. We've got twenty candidates in the race. Now, we do this just a quick outline before we get into this. There's a we have a formula that we've kind of worked on for the past few months takes about thirty or thirty one categories of stuff like polling, and fundraising and organizational stuff and all sorts of different measures of how the campaign is doing. You know, how many fundraisers how many endorsements all the stuff that could you know, kind of formulates a who could you know, who could be winning this nomination. And then we plug it into a little system spits out a score zero to one hundred and then we bring it to you. So twenty candidates we start with number twenty is Wayne mess him. Now, you might not know who Wayne mess him is. He's the mayor of Miramar Florida, obviously, we all knew that proper or one of the surrounding satellites I wouldn't want to commit to Miramar Kappa. Metro. Yes. He's got a score thirteen point four on a scale of one to one hundred. He does not look like he's going to be your next president. But he is running and there's all these crazy candidates. There's a bunch of them out there. These are like actual people who are holding office that we've included in here or someone series of campaign. Number nineteen is Marianne Williamson. Now, she is kind of a. Guru of idea. Age guru. I would say a real picture of her Doron if. What's that? What's that name? That's going around on the internet. Would like the scary girl who's like freaking everybody Momo or whatever. Related. The mother is moment. I do have to work on the cartoons. And there I guess they had rights to the kinda weird whatever I don't really anyway. So she's at seventeen point one she wants to give at least one hundred billion dollars reparations. So case if you think she said anything less than one hundred billion insult or just great great. She's very good spending your money. So you might like are also happened to find my Email. I'm getting really not actually you are because you because you have a little bit a little bit serious got a little bit. This new age thing going on. And that is who she is. She's actually was Oprah's and a lot of famous people Kardashians. And she's kind of like their new age guru and she's run for office one other time, and it's interesting because her entire chance here if she had one was to be like Kim Kardashian like schilling. Like, she's the new fire festival. She you need to be at that level. And they tried it last in congress. She still finished fourth. So I don't know how she's going to get to the presidency. But like, you know, if Oprah gonna come out and say, you know, what my new age. Who is running for president like that could change her in an instant change her fortunes here, she may be competitive. So Sarah's onboard we know who Sarah number eighteen let's see, John Delaney. Now, John lady is actually that is a real picture. He's running for for president as well. He's been running since approx July twenty seventeen is when he announced so long time. He's had quite the runway. Here he missed on seniority. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize so putting finished fifth in fundraising, which is pretty impressive except that ninety seven percent of the money came from his own Bank account. So that is a little bit John John Laney's committed. John lady has one major supporter in his name is John is he Lincoln Chafee of of twenty twenty. I heard his metric position. Yeah. But he actually I would say Delaney. If democrat had to be elected, he might be when we would actually be more friendly to I know our friend enter heating here. Let's talk John Hickenlooper. But I think as you look at Delaney as a as possible, he's a guy who's actually gets Medicare for all spoken out a spoken about the benefits of capitalism. Again, he's way too liberal sees like a math democrat. I like them math democrat wish they were more. There's not too many these this is white Laney is in eighteenth place, and he's been running forever. So is the problem seventeen Eric well, well, running a big like anti-gun campaign. He's on CNN MSNBC all the time saying whatever outlandish left wing thing he can say to get immediate cycle. This is really just a play about, you know, his this profile. This is appropriate book sale. Yeah. Exactly. And he wants to be on. He wants to be a guest on ritual motto every other day. So that's what he's. Trying to do. He's got a score of twenty point two out of one hundred sixteenth is Seth Moulton you're kind of in the same category. Here. Seth was a veteran. So he's done more with his life than I will ever do with mine. However, he has very little chance to win. He's actually telling this antidote on campaign Dory's, like look, I I I was asking getting questions from the audience. And I said, look, I'll take any tough question. I'm guy who will take tough questions as part of my job. I mean, anything really just silence for the crowd. And then finally someone spoke up in the back and said who are you? That is an addict, I'm not making it up about. It's what he's telling the campaign trail right now that beat see who wasn't Jila Brandt. Who was like I'm just trying to get some rant. Yes. Yes. The richly found. That was great was he doing a timeshare on stage with other? Yes. He was he had some multiple marketing opportunities to an event. And not know why don't we Gladys that same question? And I think the answer do it is like when you're in New Hampshire or Iowa this time of year every time you go out to breakfast. There's another candidate like it just you can't avoid these people. If you're in these certain areas, where people go so I think that's kind of what happens awful 'cause I don't wanna see them when I want him interested in voting Republican, you know, you're voting for Trump or something, and you're just sitting in there like Seth Mouton's up there running his mouth about whatever. I wanna eat my eggs like, that's it. Okay. Tim Ryan is another one of these congressmen fifteenth places go twenty one point six he's trying to run moderate again. And you see that we hitting all these supposed moderates down here. The bottom is because the Democrats don't want them. They are not interested at all in what they're pitching at this point fourteen Tulsi Gabbard, I feel like still there's a case a little bit for Tulsi Gabbard, maybe as VP candidate. She's she see actually kind of interviews as a foreign PA. Ac- Wong, and she's very very non interventionist. I would say I like her foreign policy. I hope she does well in the primaries because I'd like her to get that that anti interventionist message out there and make that part of the election. And you know, she's actually a relatively serious candidate. She's had I have a weird past. And she's kind of an interesting person to say, the least you think that, you know, she's telegenic you think maybe she's going to make a little bit of noise. So far it hasn't happened. I do I feel like she's gonna get one of those little bumps at some point and maybe get into the high single digits for a little bit. If she she has too much baggage. I think for VP which is kind of one of her problems. I think she's a little bit. She's she's a decent amount of you pointed out of the mainstream for the Democrats as well as Republicans. So it's weird fit for VP. But kind of interesting candidate, I think Andrew Yang also in the same category again Yang if you've listened if you watched Ben Shapiro interview. You'll get two things one you'll say, wow. This guy actually showed up to an interview with Ben Shapiro Shapiro's, asking them deep policy questions, and he knows the answers to them. I don't like his answers a lot of the stuff, but it's least impressive. They showed up the other. Is in that interview. It shows weakness as democratic candidate in that. There's no chance that people are going to accept these policies. They're way too sane at times. Like, this is not what the Democrats want right now out of a primary guy, especially someone. They don't know. I mean, Joe Biden could come up with some of these policies, and maybe they go along with it. But like Andrew Young you you're getting over a big hump. The his main thing has been this universal basic income. But when you look at the details of it, it's not the it's the fever dream of the left. It is version where you know, it's more like it's more like the libertarian kind of version of it, which I still don't prefer. It's not my favorite thing that libertarians have ever proposed to compare to big lab thing nine different agencies these agencies. Can you imagine the democratic primary audience being like, you know, what? Yeah. Let's we'll absolutely get rid of twelve agencies for one thousand dollars a month to everyone like it's just not happening. There's no way that's going to catch on. But of course, I've said that before he's very clever though about miniature he's probably gonna get into the debates. He's he's he's looking at all of those different rules and regular. Nations and things you might get far in the process. I would say likable too. I I really liked it. After the interview, even though I wouldn't agree with them much. Jay Inslee, governor of really parolee at twelve I'm gonna go faster. Jay Inslee, thirty point four governor of wash it running a one issue climate change campaign, basically that he's like Lindsey Graham two thousand sixteen right? What he was doing it on foreign policy Ensley just say, hey climate climate climate. He blamed Donald Trump for the floods in Iowa. Lest we click. This is what he's doing. So I again, I don't expect much John Hickenlooper. I give the player card over to enter Heaton, who's a huge Hickenlooper guy. Who I I'm kind of I'm on a spectrum of like Kato to Brookings kind of like the stodgy moderate technocrat guys and east strikes me as being a pro business democrat who's like he's willing to go into these various things, but he's not getting into the kind of screechy progressive. Extremely so I like him. Yeah. I mean, he's he brewer in this field. In this field or in the Soviet Union. He would be a moderate, I don't know outside of those two things where he'd be a moderate. But he is certainly the left. I think of of every Republican candidate for the most part. But you know, he's he is teased to the right of the field here, which is interesting because again, another moderate, I'm sticking down here at eleven twelve thirteen. These people are all down at the bottom res moderate at this point. Well, by where the depends if what you think about ten Julian Castro. I mean, it just doesn't seem to be happening for Castro. Does he does have a little bit of sort of Salish want support? So maybe something catch on. But it's not happening. So far same thing with Chile brand number nine. She's got a score thirty eight point one h not work, and she can she's a pulse where she's not even showing up. She's a sitting US Senator from the same state the last presidential candidate came from. She she's in the news all the time. But people hate the fact, I mean, the seriously rose really hurting her campaign is people hate the fact that she called for Al Franken to resign activists with. In the party or pissed off that she she applied the metoo standards to their person. And they're saying you shouldn't have done that you shouldn't call for that. He could made it through still hot, and they're pissed over that again, like take take a step back. If this thing is real which a lot with a lot of these Democrats. It isn't some some it is. But if it's real this is a woman who told her truth with photographic evidence about a powerful man taking advantage of her in a time of owner ability, and the Democrats themselves the activists are rejecting the woman who called her out. It's really unfair Jila grant from that. If you look at it from that perspective, but it is just she's not catching on eight cloture again club, which I would say you could say is in the moderate wing as well as sheep. She's not a blue dog issue. She's she loved borderline. Now, we talked to Mike Lee you had amount as well. I know we talked to Mike the whole field who would respect the the constitution the most of the Democrats. And he said cloture? So I mean, you of look at her as he likes working with her. She's been she's got a she's taking a couple of moderate stances, and she has great electoral history. She's blown away the competition. Minnesota in a state that Trump almost one number seven Elizabeth Warren forty five point three out of a hundred again, she's pandering about trying to show how game of thrones Preuss, we need powerful women. She's fringe worthy. Every step. It's unbelievable. How good she is. At every time. She does something. She just makes me cringe. Number six is Cory Booker fifty four point nine a lot of people trying to sell Booker as the positive candidate out of the Democrats. I don't know that I've seen all that much about that. But they're saying it's not working in the Democrats don't want whatever Cory Booker is doing is not working in the shoving people out of the way to get on camera. Yes. Thank you most dangerous place. Very camera. Gordon? Number five. Robert francis. Rourke's at a sixty one of his strengths. He's still mid range in the polling, even though he said this big fall off he still very good as far as fundraising. So he has some benefits there. But it really feels like the shine has gone out of bed except for her sweating that's still there. But I mean, generally speaking the shine has gone off the candidacy, and he's going to have to if he's spending this time being frugal and trying to figure out what he believes in life. Maybe that's a good thing. Because I doesn't seem to have a lot of policies, but he's something's going to happen. For him to reignite this thing because it really does seem like it's fall off largely gone to our number four who's at sixty two point nine out of one hundred Pete Buddha. Judge who is shockingly never would have guessed. This guy would have been able to get the top forward any point in this campaign. He's been better right now, he is beating Beddoe he is he is beating almost everybody. Really? Except the very top tier? He's throwing very well in pulling. He's pulling well, and I always will nationally his fundraising is shockingly good. This is a guy from the mayor mayor of south bend seven million dollars. I mean. The only did nine everyone knows him for his using again, the background behind Buddha. Judge Obama was was talking about him very early. A lot of people who are in his camp are seeing him as the future of the party a big a big step. He is the opposite of Trump when it comes to, you know, performance and presentation, and they think they can make something out of this guy. Plus, there's just not along paper trail, there's just not a lot to criticize as you've seen. So far Democrats have really said anything bad about him yet that is gonna change. But it hasn't so far number three comma Harris she was number one last week. She's at sixty eight point six out of one hundred is comma, Harris, fading fast or is. She is she just planning to smart. She's got a lot of fundraising twice as many big donors as from the Clinton and Obama campaigns as any other candidate twice as many. It's a big number. She seems to be the one they're coalescing around. But, you know, she's still moderate and polls and has not shown a lot of strength. Number two. Bernie. Anders. He was our number two last week as well sixty nine point two people one thing about Bernie centers is the fundraising and he doesn't have to drop out of these races. Because he's got so many. He's six hundred thousand individuals owners, which is about four or five times as many as any other candidate. So he is he's got money to burn he's going to perform well, and he's going to at least take this Super Tuesday. And this is a guy who show he does not want to drop out of this race at any reason. And of course, number one I debut on the polls at seventy eight point eight nine points ahead of anybody else. So he actually turned out really well in this model is Joseph Robin, Biden junior. Yes, that's his name, Robin. It's never heard one point with me. Don't have four names. Joseph Robin, Biden junior kind of he's pulling still leads everybody. And you know, you look at he his fundraising was bigger than anybody else on day one, which some people surprised about you think the energy of Sanders are a bed Omai of being that Sanders was number one in total fundraising Biden, probably will beat him this quarter relatively handily. He's in a good position. Can Joe Biden screw it up. Absolutely. But he starts off with with a nice big. Joe Joe Biden's family? Chris should be a man and a necktie stepping on a rake. His capacity to screw this up. I think is very high. He's not good at running for president is gonna town today times or twelve times or fifteen times and he's one zero. All right back in a minute. Interesting to me four out of the five top candidates are white. Not sure if you guys know this, but you can actually own your home and put in a bunch of equity into it. And then someone can show up at your door. And be like, hey, we just bought your house and get your furniture out of here. And it's all because of a home title fraud. The FBI actually said that it's one of the fastest growing crimes in the United States. And I didn't even hear about it. I had no idea that this was something that could take place until we started talking with home title ox situations. Like theft was several years ago where you heard about who's gonna take my stupid identity. I don't even know what my own yet any. But reality is she said that a I guess, but we know. Okay. But yeah. With home title. It's the same thing. It's kind of bubbling under right now. People don't know about it. But it's exploding when it comes to numbers, and I know called an epidemic in New York right now. So it's one of those things that if you get out in front of it you protect yourself. Now, you're never going to have to worry about it home. A lock is right there at the gates of where these titles are held. So you just have to set up with home in get get rid of the word horror story, the horror stories that can't be me. And then it is something that, you know, insurance companies don't protect against it identity have program. Don't protect against it. Home. Tidal lock is the place to go. You can go to home title dot com. Get a hundred dollar search for free when you sign up. So you can find out if you've already been a victim again, you wouldn't know it unless you go to home title, go there. Now get that hundred dollar search for free injury. You said that you have the solution to all of our world's problems. I can't wait to all of them some to some of them because there's something that's warping democracy right now. And I think it's worth investigating thing. It's by the way Twitter is talking about. So is a preface to this. We're often told that there's two types of people in politics, there's conservatives, and there's progressives. That's not true. The two types of people people that type in all caps on Twitter and all of us putting up with you. Those are the two types of people in American politics. I am firmly on the lower case side of this. And if we backed up really far back, we went back to like, the Greek city states volume was important like in Sparta, they made decisions by just people would Bank shields and scream, and whatever was loudest was considered. Best thing. And I think that's probably a really good solution. If you've got three hundred naked Greek people to figure out how to run a country when we've got what are we have to up to three hundred thirty million in America a lot right? Twitter's really good at augmenting volume from super ideological people. But it's not emblematic of the actual people voting in the United States in the actual people in the United States. Now, I I am an opinionated person. I I'm an ideologue I like everyone in our circle, that's meteoroid politics. Probably has very clearly delineated ideas of what we want. We don't want. We're actually kind of a rarity in that regard. Most of the American public doesn't really think like that most American publics little bit more squishy doesn't have these firm constellations there. But more the point even if you're you're looking at Twitter is just more active people. It's not it's not indicative of say what like a congressman's district looks like because if your congressman and you're looking at just your Twitter feed, you're seeing mostly angry people, and people that are very very very firmly opinionated, you're not necessarily saying like the pancake breakfast or things like that. With with Democrats. Specifically Twitter tends to be more liberal more educated wealthier whiter in terms of the Democrats or the progressives that are commenting. So when you're looking when you're on Twitter, and you're like, oh my gosh. It's so progressive it's not actually indicative of the whole broad spectrum of of people that are part of the progressive movement. When it comes to conservatives tends to be people that are urban and are more, ideologically bent. So my point is if you're in politics, and you're looking at Twitter, this is a poor way to try and aspertain what your constituents are actually thinking about. Because what you're doing? Is you sing the angry people using allowed people? I would rather congressman go hang out at the, you know, the local pancake breakfast, the elks lodge, whatever talked to people from our vantage point as American citizens. What I would guess what I'm doing this year when I recommend you do too is every time you do political tweet pledge dollar some charity, I'm gonna do that at the end of the year. I'm going to count. How many political tweets have done? And I'm going to donate money. All did that we fix America enough money for that. Too many political tweets, I would be broke. I'm sorry. I can't I limited. The once I tweet I immediately sign out and close the I don't even have the phone anymore. But you just light the match away. I don't guess don't care. I don't care what anybody says no fence if you're tweeting to me, I just don't really read them because it's not. It's not it's not real life. Get to your point. I think Andrew two point two percent of American dolts are responsible for eighty percent of tweets. I mean, that's how crazy it is two point two percent. This is a bunch of people who really like Twitter, and like look order has some cool things about it. There's parts that really like. But I mean it the issue here. I think almost more than the actual use of Twitter is the way to media uses this as a proxy for journalism. I mean like instead of getting a comment from someone they say, oh, they tweeted this. Therefore, that's the comment. I'm gonna put in the story, and then it gets magnified to the entire country Twitter is used as essentially the heartbeat of America. When it really isn't. Well, I mean, we've used we've thought about this with Email for years, right? I mean with the the activists of fines against and then they have ten people Email thousands of emails to accompany in the company feels like all these people care about it. So they have to act that's Twitter. Now bunch of people tweeted something and now the companies feel like they have to act because they've got all these people know, it's really not all these people that use your product that are complaining, it's only this little group over here. Also, it add you said. Two point two percent of people responsible for eighty percent of the tweets. I feel like if you looked into that. And you saw maybe probably Donald Trump would be responsible for like sixty. Yeah. And then the rest of us are only responsible for this is not as bad you're saying. Okay. Back in a minute, sixty coupling. Of his probably stocked investment. Do you sad that there's a big socialism episode coming up for your is? It's Wednesday night. Mayday? Netflix has a documentary coming out about AFC on may first which is odds windy release. I wonder why they did it. I can't even think of a reason why you do that strange. But you know, what that's what the rest of the world wants you to see. They wanna see this flowery presentation of socialism. This is going to push back on this not only going to tell you the real results socialism. But one of the plan of one particular country in Europe that that switch to just a few years through the rules wasn't to take over wasn't violent just going through the rules. How what was that blueprint liked? And is it being applied here today? Spoiler alert. Yes. So see how that works. It's sits really fascinating. Once I gotta tell you AFC is your flowery presentation of socialism. I. Your. Up next enjoy bonus overtime content from the news in wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber start your free trial at least TV dot com. All right, Jeffey stew with the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, final guy. I did my best to for the audience to filibusters long as possible to get Jeffey talk at of the main show. You're welcome. For those people wanna talk about it was being falsely accused I'm well aware of having here at this network. Ashley poster in Ohio in the parking lot of target with two kids. Police come up say, hey, aren't you Ashley false ter-? And they arrester. What are you arresting me for? Oh, you're guilty of trafficking heroin, and we're going to take your kids to but. No, that's not me. That's not me. So you're the same person. Here's the paper. See, no. That's the wrong address. That's not me. Yes. It is off. She goes hand cover in front of her kids. One little kid is still like eight weeks old little baby doesn't matter. They don't care. They take them away. They call CPS. I take her away. She's in jail for seven days county jail. Two different jails. She keeps asking what's going on. What am I here for that? Somebody else they're coming to get you. They finally take her to another kind of jail. What am I here? I don't know that somebody else are coming to get you. Finally, the police chief interviews her. You know, why? It is another actually foster. Thanks for your time. Gosh, darn it darn it. Thanks for your time. And by the way, I your car still at the target parking lot. I guess the best thing the whole deals. They didn't tell her car. Flat tire and the parking lot of tartar and CPS still at our kids. And they're coming to interview her to see if she's worthy of getting kids back shut out, by the way that she didn't show up for work for those seven days. She lost her job. So I hope I hope to Ashely owns this county and town in Ohio, and I know mistakes happen. I get it mistakes. Yep. No question. And and I feel bad. And and look she had the same name Ashley foster all actually was spelled different. I think and it was different address though. I mean, I but for for seven days spelled wrong as a completely unacceptable. The address people have different addresses. They don't typically change their name legally to something that sounds like. I mean, that's what I'm just saying that very easily. Yeah. For seven days, and then to get a I mean, wouldn't even even hey will take you to CPS and say we falsely arrest or give her kids back. There's no investigation these to happen here. Oh, by the way. I know you lost your job. At least maybe goat with her and say, you know, their way to give her a job back. Thanks for your time. May happen. Like, I would be surprised if the update on the story tomorrow as she got her job back, and and maybe this stuff gets fasttrack. But that's still it's unacceptable time here. They're week is way to log James is spelled differently. Can they pinpoint the police officer that dropped the ball on this one? Because I feel like there was a warrant. There was a word for actually foster, right? So the only difference like I said pretty sure that the first name was spelled different still Ashley foster was that if she's saying that's not even the right address is just as just another criminal denying. It's you. We'll say that they probably do hear that from seventy five percent of the criminals. That's not me got the wrong guy. Like, I mean, that's probably pretty common. That is. Maybe maybe you could understand a few hours of that. Like, maybe you could understand a few hours of trying to figure. Oh, okay. This is not the right person a week is completely unacceptable. Look, I know we hear it all the time. And and every time I get arrested I denied tonight. And I that's what I've been used to card. Say good morning. You say no, I didn't. Yeah. It's very strange. But you're in a parking lot of target. She's got two kids. They may be just a common sense of. Let's look into it a little bit before we holler off the weight. Just really wanna be aggressive. Maybe follower. Make sure you don't let her out of your sight. Right. Like, I mean, if you really are even that is like borderline even make a mistake, you put her in the back of a car, you make a couple of phone calls, and you realize it's the wrong person, let her back out, and you know, if she probably filed this giant lawsuit, and it actually on the polices side. Probably if it was a minor mistake and took a couple of hours out of time. It is true. These absolutely but come on a week that's eighteen month. Or would you say eighteen months? The kids are probably gonna remember that. Oh, yeah. Oh. Resilient through it. And I mean, it also brings up the the conversation that I feel like I get a lot of pushback from very staunch conservatives that you know, whatever the police tell you to do you should do it. Police police. The thority, and you need to know the card anymore in my wallet. But I don't have my wallet legitimately a step-by-step thing of what to say, and what not to say when you're arrested, and I would be the same way because I am very deferential to police officers. Most of these cases, I believe them. Honestly like, I can see their side. And almost all these things, I'm definitely you know, pro-police, and maybe sometimes too much. So I can't admit it. But it does there's no value in in your life. It doesn't add value in your life to tell them things that that you don't have to tell them. It. Never does your any good. There's never a good outcome. And let us know. Nice doing labyrinth. Because again, like, you don't know what what they're trying to get you on. You don't know if they're trying to get someone else near you. You don't know what the deal is? And you know, there's no need to to to volunteer information. Because a lot of times it can be used against you. And if you say something that's wrong. They can later on as we've seen in so many times in politics. They can just they can make your crime. Just you misstating something, you know, you're trying to hide something. I know there was no underlying crime. But we got we got John obstruction. Crazy, so many so many television shows, you know, make it seem like when the police come to your door. And you say you don't have a warrant. No. And they make the TV shows make the the homeowner look like the bad guys because the cops are good. You know, the police officers in the show. Those guys are good. They just want to catch the bad guy or they'll pull out like you forget a little thing called the Patriot Act. How that works. Oh terrorists. I can come in actually to you know, the police I think rightfully so should get more respect than they do in most situations, particularly when it's coming to arrests and things like this like I think a lot of times people get pissed off under Stanley times. But like you have to handle his interactions better. And I think it's important teacher kids to make sure that they they always act with respect because I mean officers deserve that. But if you want to improve relationships with the public doing away with things like taking people's property without even charges would be a nice step. You know, what I mean, these these these are basic functions that should not be occurring when it comes to civil asset forfeiture and such like that so ridiculously over the line. You can understand why people are hesitant the only good thing to come out of this is that they didn't tell her car right at the target lot. And said she didn't have to go and pay the impound lot for car. That's really kind of them. I thought so probably because I had a flat tire had to that that when when someone has a tremendous amount of power, there is also an attendant amount of responsibility. So when they're. When there is a screw up Spiderman. Yes, exactly if there's a screw there should be some sort of there should be some sort of consequence to it. And we're specifically when there are various cops. And I think the majority of cops are good and doing their best. But when there isn't a Cobb if there's some kind of regulation, shielding them. That's not okay, they need to be they need to be removed, Nick wages and given really swift nasty Justice. All right. So I heard that Stu you have a game of thrones. That's. Do both of you watch game of thrones. Yes, I don't. Well. You should listen to talking thrones on my podcast than I do which I was convinced about toilets. I thought for sure. You're doing a podcast about toilet. Not that that isn't possible. This one is after the season, though, you got the domain. I think I know. So this is an experiment on if you heard this Andrew, but it's experiment. Basically, I have joined game of thrones with absolutely no knowledge. Never watched an episode started with season eight episode one any of the characters I don't understand any of the lines or references. It is just how good his. Isn't that good? 'cause I don't even have a glimpse of that. I there was a, you know, we won't get into any spoilers. But there was a big battle or you can show. No, no, no. Show aired last night. You know what I mean? That's not enough time. A month. In my head. I'm thinking details. You should admit. I'm sure I'm sure you're going to find you Glenn did go through a checklist of things that I could say he's like, are you can't say this this or that? So I those there's a few things at the end that obviously that I guess we're important, although I can't tell you why I don't know why. 'cause I don't know who these people are I fascinated to see it's interesting to see people's reaction to it. Because you know shows that are huge like gave thrones is are not as huge as they used to be. It's not mash, right? Like, it's not like sixty percent of the population of watching. These shows is eighteen. Surprised that the numbers were as low as they pay TV though. I know right. Still still the number one show, certainly when it comes Shefi's moms HBO account. Yes. I don't have that. It's interesting reaction because people who don't watch it. You know, it's just funny that I'm being Glenn's making me do this and I'm trying to get through. And I really it's really hard to piece together because I don't know their names. They don't say their names to each other. Why would they everyone knows who they are on the show except for me because I don't know any of the background. But the people who watch the show really appreciate it. Because it really makes me look like an idiot. I will say though, it's it's an interesting experiment jumping in like this because these shows are made for binging, right? And so people I don't even think they're planning anymore. There is no attempt to bring me up to speed no attempt. They're not even trying to give me like. You are a background. I don't know. How many Pete names, I know on the show too? And the glint only one of them was wrong. We'll tell you which one. No more than that. Yes. They do. They do. Jon snow is one of them. Yes. And then I think his name was Carr ES or something like, no, it's not as name. It's it's not Zacarias. I don't know who he was. But I won't say anything about what happened. But I thought he was a person, and he apparently was not okay. I know like angry elf is on the show. And I was revealed that season eight episodes three I thought this is a big revelation Glenn didn't seem so impressed that angry elf was married to the redhead at some point in the past Joe, which I thought was pretty amazing because they do not look like couple at all. Like, that's incredible. Like having to get hurt in the center matchmaking was a whole different game. That we we just found out too that they were actually no longer married because some of that backstory was some people thought that they may still have been married. Really? Yeah. They did say they had four fights. And she apparently got married a bunch of times because she made a comment about effect there. But you know, so angry it was was married in which pretty cool. And then there's there's one or two other big revelations that I found in there that no one else seem to think we're big we're big revelations that I don't understand that. But I mean, it was pretty cool. You had you had the Blondy Queen lady who's like the Siegfried and ROY of dragons, and she's pretty impressive. And you know, I will say the battle scenes pretty pretty cool. It's been a lot of money time money like fifty five nights of battle shooting, man. That was like eight or nine nine hundred eighty s blockbusters worth of end of that. I will say they did cut some corners in in cost. Like, for example. Hey, let's light all the sorts on fire. And then they all go far away. Battlefield, and they all all the sorts go out again. It's a minor spoiler. I guess if you're watching it, but not my not by much, and that's just the way to not have to pay for that battle. I disagree. I think that was a great way of har- banger of the video was snuffed out. Yeah. Yeah. It was impressive. I like the is so dark though like, and I don't mean dark as far as negative. I mean, just dark. I know what happened at night. But usually when you're watching TV shows at night, you can still see occurring. This was a lot of times. There's like chaos face chaos. Face head cut off face off. Like, right. That's I can't tell what's going on. And I don't know who's dying. I don't know who the people are so sad. I know. That's what made it. So fascinating. Those that when you come back around you see who survived this battle. Yes. There's one point in mental either every big characters dying or none of them are dying which one it is. And. We can't spoil. I don't listen to talking thrones my seriously because this is agonizing not being able to spoil thing. We've got. We've got this show about some Bs which I had no idea about. Walkers are. Yeah. This is what it is. It's it's a show about Norman conquest England, truly with zombies dragons, and that's why it's such a brilliant show. Can I run through Israel have been your children? Right. Okay. So there's there's the Starks and there's a Lancasters. What's the that? You're gonna explain all the backer. I can't hear this. Okay. So there's there's two big houses stark in Lancaster, people at home and one thing about their house of York and house of Lancaster. It's it's it's it's the. I bet, you know, British history though. You're not going to be back back together. I don't know that I should have that didn't they do a series called the tutors though, then they do this. It was like rhesus less accurate game of thrones. This more accurate. It's accurate. The corners with the tutors. The dragon. We all want. The dragons represent poverty. I don't know. It's it's the liberties had Andrew Hedin on talking. Thrones yet. No, I have not. I mean, it's not really a guest right show. You could ask him. I mean, it's not really sit there quietly while you talk. That. All right. Friday's poll. What is the most important issue heading into twenty twenty? This is not surprising. Sixty nine percent of you said immigration seventeen percent, set economy, eight percents at healthcare six percents gun rights. I actually am surprised by the healthcare in the gun right's thing. I would think that those will be swapped that more people would be concerned with care immigration. I mean is interesting. I mean, it just top of the news is probably explanation for that more than anything else. Because if Bernie Sanders or comma Harris can become president your gun rights are going to be they're gonna at least try to restrict them. Gun rights in the past used to be when he because he, you know, one of the only state in America that does not have a concealed carry license. Not because they don't offer them because everyone just gets them. You don't need to get a concealed carry license is Vermont like, that's how far they are when it comes to gun rights their weight on that road. Because most people wouldn't think that you think of national you think Vermont Bernie Sanders, Ben and Jerry's like, you know, like this does that seem like that place, but they're very live for your diet as their neighbor. And it's that that's very much the attitude there Bernie back in the day was pretty good on guns, and he gets beat up in the primers about it. But he's really turned into a normal democrat. Also, I forget which outlet it was, but some mainstream media outlet, and they tweeted, it was an opinion piece, but someone from their outlet tweeted an article two story, and it was that Kamala Harris, comma, Harris owns a handgun and should prevent her that should disqualify her from becoming president Jones owns a handgun in Israel. I mean got thrown out of the party, let alone that maker president Xi also questioned letting living convicts vote. So she said we should have that conversation. But that you came back around as a former prosecutor and said, you know, we should not I don't really don't want them to I never running late can get the Andhra Heaton position on the Bernie Sanders. I'm interested to hear your opinion on I know Jeffey, of course, would say convicts vote. No matter what. But like because there's the Norway that we kind of do it now, which is you know, they get felons. Can't even after they get out that kind of next step over which I feel like is a lot of America is which is you can't vote when you're in prison. But once you're out you've paid your dues. And then you can you can vote again. Or the very centers position is like, you know, you know, Boston bomber in prison casting votes in prison. Where are you on that? You know, what I recognize that the majority of the country's probably in that you get to vote when you leave type can I think you should be able to vote while you're there, and I'm feeling like this like if you go to prison, you don't quit being an American citizen. Like, I I don't think that's on the table where we're like we're internally exiling people going. You are now stateless you have no citizenship until you leave should. I think if you're a citizen that's part of being a citizen. I don't think it's taken away from you. I also think that from a from electoral perspective, I I had viewer on the show asked me about this. He asked would do you think that that would seriously influence politics congressman be swinging by Kahn, or you know. Yeah. I don't think it'd be that that much of a thing. But I will say like if you go to like Oklahoma where where I'm from that has the highest incarceration rate in the country in a country that has the highest incarceration rate in the world. I do think you'd see some changes in that. I suspect Oklahoma probably would have legalized non violent drug offenses lot quicker. What what we did was we just blundered into kind of resolution on medical marijuana. I think you would have seen that happen faster because there were enough people that were locked in in prison for you know, because they got into meth or something. So I do think it'd be some effect. But overall, though, my main thing is I think if you're a citizen you get to vote, and that doesn't change if you're imprison I'd be what ear if you're citizen. You get to move around freely in that does right if you're citizen you get to have second amendment rights. May not actually be of the state or the county or the city that you're in prison. Well, that's that's totally. Non-citizen definitely. That if you're if you're legal immigrant. People are in prison in places where they don't. Yeah. Ballot. Like, I my whole life. I think I've mostly been like, no, you frigging NFL Vinnie and you never vote again don't minute felony. I lately I've been coming more to the inter heat inside. And actually was a little like a little part. Here's why here's why I think if you are imprisoned, right? Let's just say, for example, just take a crazy example, they make conservative commentary. They go after that. And they say like they start imprisoning people on political terms like you because you're in prison. You are the person who might be voting based on their conditions in prison. Right. You might be voting on the law. You are imprisoned on and like you should be able to to have input on whether that law should be changed. And maybe support politicians on you know, that would say, you know, what I think that that's wrong, and we should overturn that. I don't think there'd be a lot of pandering to prisons. I don't think it would make honestly much if any electoral difference at all I think would be more mostly a symbolic gesture. I'm not there. But you've got me at least thinking about it the last the last few months because you know, let's say like to this crazy world where they start throwing people in prison for their political opinions should those people. I mean, that's a great way to not have them voting. Like you come up with a way to throw the evil conservative into prison on some technicality. All of a sudden, the conservatives no longer voting and has no representation whatsoever. That's an extreme example. But I think I think even like, even if you think it's drugs, right? Like, I should be able to do these drugs. You should be able to vote for politicians who say legalize drugs, and you might not win. But at least you should be able to have input in that process. So I don't know wavering. So you guys can send all of your hate tweets to still at mighty his established won't read them if they're in all caps. Emblematic of the book of the American people. What did you watch this weekend? Vendors and games weird poll vendors and game game of thrones Trump rally in Wisconsin or all of the above how about none of the above. I didn't watch any game of thrones. It would have. But it was forced that's true. And you're not a big avengers. No interest in that whatsoever. Yeah. Thrones. I saw some of Trump speech within he is great. As always I mean that President Trump, and I did see walk past several lines going to another movie people waiting in line to get into venture. I'm trying to avoid spoilers until I'm going go. See it next weekend. 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High Noon

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High Noon

"It's one thousand nine hundred eighty two and newlywed might be newly dead high noon. Hello and welcome to on the spoiled. This is show shower every week. We better our way through the af I top went under. I made me Nicholson Paul Scheer and last week we talked about e t I asked a very important question or at least I thought an important question. Does this movie hold up to children of this generation like you and I felt when we saw it in the answer was resounding yes, a resounding yes. We got so many tweets from people being like, I have been showing my kids. My kids are six. My kids are eight. My kids love this movie. Yeah, that actually made me really happy due to see that because I think a little bit jaded in what I'm seeing on TV that passes in entertainment for kids. And we talked about this a little bit last week and to see that movie like this still holds up. It gives me faith and hope that our children will grow up to be great adults. So is interesting that Cameron each from the ear will. Terms brought something to our attention from our Facebook group. He said the Facebook group has put ET below King Kong, which is interesting. What do you think about that? I'm surprised. I am surprised. I'm legit surprise. It also does dovetail with this. We take points off modern films. Well, yeah, and you know, an Cameron brought something interesting. I didn't feel anything by watching King Kong, but I felt something watching teen. I felt happy, and I think that's valid emotion, and I would agree with that, like, I don't know if I was as emotionally invested in Kong as I am NET. I mean, I hate happiness. Critic, I'm very down with happiness. I've been thinking about this a lot. Honestly, I, I think it's hard to really say that something from your generation is important. You know, I've been having this problem like thinking about everything on the list that there's so many things I kinda wanna take stand for like this movie is important. This should be on the list. Is it like a generational modesty, like humble about our own work? Like, you know, I don't know. Well, I think or finding also is, do movies have to be quote unquote important? Like when you mentioned Harry met Sally on the list, I think a lot of people rallied behind that. I guess that's a great movie. I feel the same way about back to the future. My future is a great movie. Is there a difference between like a movie that is like that quote, unquote, like means something versus a movie? That's just great and fun. I don't know. Yeah, or even stuff. It sorta kinda fits the same slot would I swap out ET for Jessica park if that was an option? And maybe I think I actually do like dressing park. A little bit better, but something in me feels like that's gross. Like I'm not allowed to say. Would you slap out jaaz for drastic park? No. Interesting. Okay. I left shocks. Yeah. Okay. I love it just goes to the animal type. Let's see what else people are saying psyche. Two point. Oh rights ET is definitely not a father figure, but he is a new subject of love. Someone who Elliot loves and who loves him in return. And then like ET's father ET has to go away. But this time Elliott understands why that doesn't make it easier. But it does mean that now he has a way to process it. Wow. Well, said psyche, that is. I mean, yeah. I guess a lot of growing up is confronting loss. Yeah. And maybe trying to understand why you know, I think you know Mr. Rogers, is that an amazing about goldfish dying and maybe it's this is a way to help kids through divorce? Yeah. I mean, Mr. Rogers talked about what is in assassination. Mr. Rogers is pretty bold. I like that idea that that that we shouldn't hide the darkest things from kids. And honestly, you know. You know, sometimes died leaving. There is no lie. There is no, why. But that doesn't mean the feeling isn't still just a strong and give shutout to Ross bond. The me who did a little poem or maybe a little rap. I don't know, but I'll try to do it the best way. The best way I can the names ET and Iraq with Ellie. I liked the drink beer. Why watch the telly? I'm a three foot alien trying to call my home city. I'll bring myself back to life. You don't deserve pity. That's a nice little rhyme by Ross Bonomi. Oh, I think has been writing poems for every one of our af I'm that poem tells me is that AT is British. Yeah, he's watching the telly. Yeah. All right. So Paul, yes. In our last episode we asked people to do show. What do you think high noon is about an? Can you do it in your best southern draw? Are you ready for this? Are you ready? Wait. Let me hear it. Well, it will room. I think I knew about do in an old west town. How about a group of city licking administrative professionals who try every single day to eat at noon, but instead inevitably eat their lunches at ten, forty, five and their desk. I knew no bandit is making me trouble in a small town. Story gamble is about to battle picture clock. Did steal Hombres about to go or where on the story, a high noon is this story good versus evil. Black cat in a why have on noon has to be about two hours with no time pieces than either figure where to meet up at hand. Noon is a story about a man who lost his way and it's about hat time. He comes home at noon. Well, Paul, what do you think of them cow pokes. They're making these gases, I guess, is pretty good. You know what? But let's talk about what really happens in this movie because now it's time for all feature presentation. Okay, it's number twenty seven on the af is top one hundred list. It's a nineteen fifty. Two movie called high noon with Gary Cooper Grace, Kelly Lloyd bridges Katie Gerardo, lawn Cheney, junior and Thomas Mitchell, and it's kind of known as the quintessential western. What would you say the plot of this movie is the plot of this movie is that Gary Cooper is the marshal will Kane. He has just gotten married and like one minute later retires from the Marshall ship because his wife, Grace, Kelly is anti-violence. She's a Quaker, so she wants to move away and become a store clerk. But of course, as soon as he gives up his badge, he finds out that Frank Miller. The guy who hates him has come to town is coming to town on the new train. He has got like ninety minutes to get a pasta together to help him kill Frank Miller, or he will die. So he does is he goes from door to door in real time, knocking on doors saying, please help me and everybody is a coward and comes up with the reason why they won't help. Him until he finally has to face Frank Miller alone. And if you like that summary, okay, but you would prefer it in song will good because the film opens with the entire plot in song and then plays the song all through the movie. You hear the plot over and over again. So you'll never forget the plot to the point that when he's walking through town, you hear people being like dot third, the Tara. I like the song and so did the academy because at one, an Academy Award, all right layers. All right layers, break, Bill. Man be. Stay. Craving. On slow. Denial looking, big, long written. Made allow violence states and his. Trade ally. What will he do? If Grace Kelly leaves him? Because this Frank Miller dude hates him and he has. I'm prison with his in. Well, I can already tell by your tone where we are going to be talking about high noon today, negative. I'm not negative. I'm not negative. I get really sick of this. No, I well, let me tell you you wouldn't be alone. I think right out of the gate. I'm gonna say high noon is fine. I I it's from, I enjoyed it. You know, this is a movie. That is a really interesting conceit, right? It takes place from ten thirty five am to twelve fifteen pm. So almost in real time you're watching what is happening on the Sunday early afternoon. Exactly. This character will. Cain has basically ninety minutes to reconcile with the fact that he goes from being a groom at the start to possibly dying at the end with people already making his coffins. Can you get anybody to help him in this big shootout that he knows his coming at noon? And I would argue to not only groom, but a well respected sheriff of this town. You know, he was a marshal of this town that he is a held in very high esteem. When you first see him, you know, he's retiring from a job well done and and then realizes that it was all just bullshit. Don't actually care about him as much as they said. That they did that whole Bruce Willis thing thought it was. I thought I was quitting. He's surrounded by people, and all these people were about to hear in this clip right here, betray him with heavy foreshadowing one more ceremony. More or less. Marshall turn in your badge, the truth. I kinda hate to do this without your new Marshall being. Here will fuller Holland the entire selectmen in this community. Also you very good friends with a fine job you've done here. I feel free to say and the judge Obama out this town will be safe till tomorrow. Ever in the history of the world. We're good. Everything's fine. Whatever be destroyed. This plane can't go down. This ship will never sink. Well, look. I mean of course, problems going to arise. We don't wanna see Gary Cooper live happily ever after with Grace, Kelly. Even though I felt the age was a little disturbing twenty. Eight years I did the math between them really wanna see might wasn't just complaining about watching Gary Cooper, the soda. He was like romancing, Andrea. And that's after this. I mean, Gary Cooper was like a stud. Let's be fair. I mean, Gary Cooper was a silent Aerostar. He was a guy from Montana who moved to California, sorta do silent westerns by the way. Can you guess what Gary Cougars mom's name was no Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper, he moves dollywood. He becomes a cowboy. He takes it really seriously. I, I might rag on Gary Cooper bits, I wanna give him full honors right up at the. I just want to be like, I'm not hating on Gary Cooper. He moved to Hollywood. He decides he's really going to take being an actor seriously. He starts doing his own makeup, taking photos of himself, watching his dailies in realizing, oh, the more I do the more ridiculous I look, he'd tried to look evil and be like, I look stupid. So his thing really early on was he trained himself to barely do anything at all, which in the silent air is really rare. You know, people are going to train to a moat and be like, oh my God, it's free and we're going to die, which is why Buster Keaton stood out. And Gary Cooper kinda did the same thing with Gary Cooper. Also in this film didn't wear any makeup. They really wanted to kind of show the the sweat and the worry the frown lines on his face. He's an older guy at this point. And so by eliminating makeup, you could actually see on his face that he was. Was a little bit more freaked out, say, I think he's wearing mascara. Must care right at the very, very, very, very, very, very end. But he was, I get Cooper is super hot. Apparently when he's younger to the point where to Lula Bankhead this like famous sex pot movie star says she moved to Hollywood quote to fuck Gary Cooper in someone's like end. How was it? And she just said, mission accomplished. Well, we talked about people who are kind of having a fascination with someone on screen. We get to another character's memory remind me of that because there's somebody else who had a mission to fuck someone that's movie well, okay. Anyways, the year that little Bankhead said that she wanted to fuck Cooper was the year that I believe it was the year that Grace Kelly was born. So that's what the math that we're, oh, wow. And Gary Cooper became famous is he started boning somebody that I'm sure you've heard of Clara bow the girl, the girl core. He started boning, Clara bow. She was like, put this hot guy in my movie. She put him in it. He was in it for like a minute and a half, maybe in that is what really launched him as a star. That's what turned him from being like guy who can ride a horse in the background to total stud. You know, a lot of people always ask air kipah. Why did you come back to westerns? And I found this really rare injury with him on the set of one of his films, and here's what he said. Because the good ones are real feel real. When you're making them and you don't feel actor. The western picture tells stories of the pioneer period. The pioneers. Brave, the elements, and we are brought close to the pioneer people by seeing the western picture, and we realized that our country was and is full of people who believe in America. It's interesting that you know, he views the western as a tale of America. It's true and also what I can't help wondering. No, in that quote, he had done a lot of westerns, but one of the things that I'm thinking of hearing in talk about that is, you know, western era was like early teen hundred eighteen forty eight fifty, maybe max. He's talking time when western people win this areas talking about all those people are pretty much dead and I've always wondered how much we are just guessing that's what they like and how much we're just extrapolating from the movies we made about them like interest there might have. I mean, there must have been some overlap. They could really ask anybody who'd been alive during the pioneer days, but almost not really like, who knows are we just copying what somebody else's imagination told us that time was. Exactly. Because honestly, if you ask me to picture eighteen thirty, I would picture a movie more than anything else. Oh, one hundred percent. I mean, no. Here's the thing about high noon that I think is really interesting. This movie is kind of a allegory for what was going on with McCarthyism at this point so much so that the writer, Carl foreman was blacklisted. When the movie came out, people were picketing this film yet. Here's the thing about high noon. This movie is just hands down, capital letters, political, like in so many ways, even in the modern era which will get to. But when Hainan comes out, everybody's getting interrogated ruthlessly by the Hewitt commission. Like are you now or have you ever been a communist? Carl foreman had been a communist or communist adjacent. A lot of people were. That's the thing. Communism was not that uncommon, isn't that weird, but there's a secondary thing going on when you talk about communism in. Hollywood, tiny, brief, Hugh history. In the thirties writers in Hollywood or trying to get together and form the writers guild, the earlier stages of what we have today in there asking for things like, hey, can we get like a decent salary in the studio bosses? Harry Warner in particular was like, fuck you. You communists. He was super mad and it was because pay them. I did not really started from. That's part of where this division comes from in Hollywood is this idea of all of these workers when they were trying to unionize? The bosses were calling them communists because they were mad because they didn't wanna pay. People still have happening today. TV and we all got fired because we unionized. That was one of the main reasons like is still happening. So they do this line between people asking for basic financial rights to communism, and a lot of people are on the side of basic finance rights. So was Carl. So you get lumped in with this. I d, ah of communism. And then in the fifties, that idea of communism turns into you, love the Russians, but yet that's sort of why you have this animosity. And then you also have the secondary thing going on in Hollywood, which is Hollywood, doesn't wanna be accused of doing anything emotionally corrupt. So now you can quote unquote trigger the lives by being like you're not being fair. So they'll be like, oh my God, I'll be so fair. Can we interview in Nazi and tell him he's nice that's happening to with Hugh AC. They were like, we need to prove that there are no communist in here we need to. We need to double stir that we don't have like Soviet influences because Hollywood has to protect itself. So they started tearing themselves apart themselves open and creating these horrible division and blacklisting. Some amazing talent. Like as a matter of fact, Henry Fonda was supposed to do this film, but he was blacklisted. It's time could not get hired, Gary Cooper kind of gray listed at the time. So he was able to kinda get in his career was a faltering. But people that we look back on now is kind of these icons of this era were unable to work and costs so many people to, you know, take tragic ends or leave the country really damning thing and never realized where it started always knew where ended, but never realized where it started. Yeah. And if you think about it, part of what they were saying was communist propaganda and a movie was somebody saying like bankers were maybe bad people? Wow. They were writing for stuff like that and saying, we should say that money is great and people earning it. Terrific in Uganda is doing grapes of wrath. So yeah, really the where this comes down to high noon in particular is Carl foreman. Writer knows he's going to be called in front of. He knows his gonna be acid. He's a communist. And he knows that what they really want him to do is name names is say, who else was a communist? He knows he's not important, but they're hoping he'll be like Henry Fonda or he'll rat out other people and he won't do it. That's his moral quandary. And he knew this weeks in advance, maybe months in advance. And as he's getting closer and closer to having to testify, that's when he realizes that everybody around him, everyone that he thought was his friend even as producer that he's been working with making high noon forever. They've been working together for ever this guy. Cramer people are like literally crossing the street when he's walking down the sidewalk because nobody wants to be associated with anybody who might possibly be in trouble like it's contagious. So Forman was saying at the time, he said, quote, as I was writing the screenplay, the when it became insane because life was Mirroring art, art was Mirroring life. It was all happening at the same time I became that guy. I became that Gary Cooper character turned like his producer. He turned Kramer into the mayor of the town into this betrayer because Kramer said. Creamer trying to get him kicked out of the movie Kramer drew they were tickets. They took credit off the film. Yeah, everybody tried to ruin him. I mean, John Wayne was asked to do high noon first before they gave it to Gary Cooper and John Wayne was like, no, this is a communist film. I will not do it. And then John Wayne went on the warpath against this movie because John Wayne was like, I believe in, you know, red blooded American values. I mean, John Wayne, we're going to have to talk about John Wayne. I mean, John Wayne was like kind of pansy. I mean, John Wayne was not the American. John. Wayne was typical typical posturing conservative. If we can say, didn't put his neck on the line Riley, he's a conic images of someone who puts his neck out on the line, but he never didn't realize life. He said he was too busy making movies about the war during the war to even fight in the war. You know, he always came up with like good excuses for why he wasn't there. And so John Wayne really went on the warpath trying to destroy high noon before it even came out, which in the extreme example of John Wayne being a giant hypocrite when Gary Cooper wins the Oscar four high noon because gay Cooper does do a good job. He asked on Wayne to accept the statue for him, and John wing gives the speech. I'm glad to see that they're giving this to a man who was not only most deserving but has conducted himself throughout his years in our business in a manner that we can all be proud of it open. I have been friends, hunting and fishing for more years. And I like to remember is one of the nicest fellows. I know I don't know anybody any nicer and I can't ship goes further than that friendship because we both fell off a heart says into pictures together. Not that I am through being such a good sport spouted all good sportsmanship. I'm gonna go back and find my business manager and agent producer and three name writer find out why I didn't get high known instead of Koper. Fire any of these very expensive fellas, but at least run my nineteen thirty Chevrolet into one of their big black new Cadillac. Okay. And you jerk. You didn't get high noon because you turned it down and then you trashed it forever. When I see John Wayne up there, I know we're supposed to do on a homeless shocks, many cars. All right. I see a coward and a hypocrite was Gary Cooper asking Joey to accept it, kind of like a dig. I wonder. I mean, because they were, they were friends. They don't each other forever. I love the idea of him being there and same nice things about this movie. After this movie's John Wayne starts giving interviews where he says, I'll tell you about car owner to this in Jonglei. Or I'll tell you about Carl foreman is rotten Olhan noon. Everybody says it was a great picture because Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly were in it. It's the most un-american thing I've seen in my whole life. The last thing in the pictures old coop putting on the US marshals badge, unders foot and stepping on it. I'll never regret haven't run former out of this country by the way he does not step on the bed, but that, oh, how does that? Like if he rose in the dirt, he throws it in the dark. And then later Wayne says, this isn't interview with Roger Ebert. He's still mad about it. This is like twenty years later. Wayne is like describing high noon to, and Britney says, would a piece of you know what that was. Here's a town full of people who have written and covered wagons all the way across the plains. And then when three, no good. Bad guys walk into town and the Marsh last little help. Everybody in town get shy. If I'd been the Marshall outta just been so goddamn discussed it with those chicken livered, yellow sons, bitches. Our just take my wife and saddled up and rode out of there, which, okay, wait, hold on. Now, thinking like a couple of things because when that actually is sort of what happens in the movie, he does this right out of there. So now he's like mad about it. I don't know exactly John lanes mad about. He sounds kind of like those guys who are like, you know what? We wouldn't have parkland. If I had a gun, I would've saved it and you're like, really? I am kind of fascinated that he had such a negative reaction to this film because at the end of the day, if you take away the political connotations, it's a great western. It's it's a western for people who don't like westerns or that's how people view high noon. You know, it's one man against, you know, the three toughest people out there to save a town. Now, clearly curl foreman goes through the at commission after the movie is written and made so where people seeing it or they just feeling like right now this what's going on. It's it's, I guess, when I watch it, it doesn't seem overtly political. Even though it is sort of like now that I'm a film critic in the air of Trump every movie is about Trump to me. Right. Okay. I wonder if it's like that, but I do think it was. Super delivered. I mean, form and said, you know, the scene in the church when when Gary Cooper goes in there and ask people for help and everybody's like short await, but we have all these conditions and it's not a bad idea. He said that is a distillation of meetings. I had with partners and associates and lawyers. And then he felt like he also had scenes where somebody would come in and be like, I'll help. Then we realize nobody else was helping he left. So mean knowing anything about the Hewitt commission in reference to this film? I looked at it simply as a western. I don't look at it as having a double meaning. I didn't know about all this kind of backlash until doing the research. But what you see when you watch is this idea of a man who's going against the grain of his town, who has to make the right choice who has to make the choice in a vacuum. A guy who so believes in his inner core that he is right that he risks everything. He risks his wife. He risks on popularity in that is why did you know that high noon is the most requested movie of all time in the White House. DVD screening room. I heard that I heard it was President Clinton's favourite film. He watched it seventeen times during his two terms as president. Yeah, he seventeen times. And when George Bush got into the White House and it was like, you got any advice from us like watch high noon. But this has been going on forever. Like Eisenhower, watch the movie like nonstop on repeat Obama like the movie too. And then we use high noon to even describe what being a president does. I mean, when Obama tried to tighten gun laws, run of the newspaper headlines was Obama to go high noon on NRA and gun lobby, and then it say, no, he may like Gary Cooper wind up bloodied and disenchanted, but at least when the credits roll on his presidency Obama will be able to drop his marshal's badge on the ground and limp off into the sunset. You know, I think in talking about this movie mardi kind of shifting an opinion of it, you know, because I see the relevance that it has in watching it without any of that. It just felt to me, like I said, fine. You know, it's, it's. A more than capable western. I don't dislike westerns. I've seen a lot of westerns, but to me, there was something a little bit just kind of bland about it, you know, and the performances were great, but everything just seemed pretty steady. No, I do find it interesting that that this movie comes out to such negative kind of reaction, but yet wins four kademi awards nominated for seven and even wins four Golden Globes set means that the town of Hollywood, which it is giving the middle finger to embraces the movie at the end of the day. I mean, sort of there's also remember Hedda hopper one of the people who just made like citizen Kane and Hedda hopper seems to pop up a lot. Yeah, who I love and hate in equal measure because I respect her so much like a powerful film journalist, I can't imagine being a journalist with that much power, honestly. I mean, Hedda hopper really hated this movie for that reason. Like she went after it because of the Hugh stuff, and she tried to make it lose all. The Oscars. It became her like life's goal. You know how now we have these Oscar bloggers who are like, aren't people sick of like Affonso cool, Ron, or they come like near the way the Weinstein even would figure out reasons to attack tiny films. They still there from this or they didn't pay that, or they would bring everything down. She was doing that back in the fifties. She was really going after high noon in all of our columns shoes on the rampage. What she wanted was she wanted either sessile be mill to and for the greatest show or she wanted John Ford in for the quiet man just so high noon didn't win. She really didn't. I knew in. So she would do stuff like go to the DJ awards and report back from it. And she was like him, you know, by the way, the holy high noon table win John Ford one, they sat on their hands and they're totally owned grateful. And she would even lie to the point where she was like, you know, sesame, two million John Ford basically already made high noon. They already did it. So Hainan is copying these two other guys who should be winning the Oscar. She said that sesame mills movie the Virginian and John Ford stagecoach were basically high noon, which is basically like saying any western is high noon, but she was trying everything she could to chip away at it to make it work. And in a weird way, it feels like in the privacy of people's homes when they're voting and no one could see who they're voting for. They went and supported this movie that they couldn't be vocally support in public yet. But you are seeing crazy happened like somebody tweeted at me a couple of weeks ago and they're like, is it ever okay for a critic to change their mind on a film? And I said, absolutely. You know, I've changed my mind on films a lot. The second time, like I'll see a movie that I'm unsure about Lincoln rival twice before I review it to really sense myself out. But then. Their stuff. Like what happened in the Hollywood citizen news when high noon comes out because the guy from the Hollywood citizen news, this guy, low readings, he reviews, I knew and he's like, it's great and then five days later, I don't know what conversation he was having. He reviewed it again in this. He was like, the writer sucks. The writer being the communist eighty route. He ruined here viewed again. He said, the plot, despite its tightness in sparse use of dialogue is actually the film's weakest power. Close analysis shows. The story is tired by mid telling a some of the weaknesses of the good citizens of the town, which underlined repeatedly are just the sort of thing which brings forth cries of communist propaganda in motion pictures. I mean, it's basically like who came to his newspaper desk and was like, you gave that movie a good review. Wow, wow. Wow. It's crazy voices like excited just because this is journalism nursery shit. What was going on. I would argue that after hearing all this, this is the most controversial film that we've done. I mean, sure, citizen Kane infuriated people, but this really put Hollywood on blast. And you know, it's interesting that gets put on this list because it's something that kind of is taking down Hollywood in a very major way that I guess is now being held up in a very high acclaim because it had the balls to do it. It's sort of like, I guess what we have to do is really parse out is high noon, good for the movie that it is or his high noon. Good for what it means for the middle finger that it gave right has I think when you hear the anger in a lot of people's voices, like in John Wayne's voice, honestly kind of reminds me of like the football protests of the NFL people taking a knee in that people. Reactions are so personal also not exactly right. Not exactly right to what the film is trying to say. I mean, Howard hooks hated high noon. He hated high noon that he enjoying Wayne wound up making a movie later called Rio Bravo, which they said at the time was their middle finger to high noon, basically reversed all of it. It was like the good America where trouble comes in the sheriff is a good person, and everybody in the town helps him in everything works out exactly how it should because that's how it was because that's what they wanted America to be because it insulted them to think that America wasn't like that. And so to them, high noon basically was like, fuck you Hollywood, but it was also fuck you. The idea that the normal American man is good that the wild west is good that the that the roots of where America came from weren't just perfect, and they were just fearless about it. We'll maybe that's what was interesting to me or what was my issue with the film is that this feels much more in line with the type of film that you would see now. You know someone who is left to their own devices? No one else is helping them. I mean, you could draw very tenuous line to like death wish you or taken. It's one person against everyone. You know, no one's going to help this person. So he's got to get vengeance from self mean even that new movie peppermint like the laws scooter over and now she's taking into our own hands. That idea of one person against the world is a movie Trump that we've seen since the seventies till now. That's so true because when I was watching high noon, I was sort of uncomfortable and I was kind of irritated by Gary Cooper, I guess because I was watching Gary Cooper and I was thinking like, oh, this is Travis. Bickel thinks he is everybody else in the world is weak, and he's the one person who with his gun is to take evil in this idea. This macho man alone has been kind of mutated in favored freaks me out. I mean, even call Travis Bickel cowboy in the movie. He wears right. How. Boots a lot. He thinks he's a cowboy with this performance. It's an interesting one because it's not winning if that makes sense, are charismatic. He doesn't have the tropes of what we normally think of a, you know, a John Wayne character to have it's very black and white, just like I am a good person. I'm going to try to get help. You don't see that much emotion on him. He's just focused even the love relationship that he had with Grace. Kelly. I, I didn't think their chemistry was that great at all, and it's off. They had an affair after the spill. I felt in many respects watching Gary Cooper, he felt frail to me or like a little out of step. I mean, I know he shot this movie while having a bleeding ulcer. He was really sick, and I feel like some of that shows up, but where you maybe play into that more like an film like unforgiven and you kinda see those frailties. I don't think that you're seeing that much character. I don't. I think that the idea. Idea of Gary Cooper is doing is more impressive than the performances in. I mean, the only performance that really things to me is woman who owns the like the shop in town Katie Dorado. Yeah, I'm pronouncing your name right and love her, and I want to talk about her a lot, but I want to pick up on what you're saying right now really fast because yet Gary Cooper plays this like he's just old and tired. It's that kind of thing here. Like I'm too old for this shit. Yeah. The John MacLean of now, which is ironic because the John MacLean that we I read in diehard is basically gay Cooper, in fact, hate, wait. I have a clip of this cowboy McClay on their all time. John Wayne does not want off into the sunset with Grace. Kelly, scary Cooper has what I've never even realized. There's a high noon reference in diehard. That's crazy to me. Yeah. And if you think about it, makes sense. He's alone this force of law in a building. The people outside the other, the other cops were supposed to help him are fucking it up. They're not doing the right thing. He loan has to do it, but I think why we're finding people watching this movie and relating to this movie is because it is the fantasy that we all have. It is the fantasy of if push came to shove, I could do it. I think diehard is a perfect example of movie that captured so many people's imaginations as a story well told, but also it's like, what would I do if I was in the situation? He's just a normal guy. This is Bruce Willis before he becomes the one surfing on Russian MIGS and whatever live for your diehard. You know, this is the normal human, Bruce, Willis? Yeah, this is the Bruce Willis before launching a cop car at a helicopter. Oh, yeah. Or like surfing on like a subway, great or something in in die. Hard three. But I would argue that John MacLean is a more charismatic character. Then Gary Cooper's character in this film. Yeah, I don't totally get the. I think it's just because all my Gary Coopers have really watched have been. This older. Gary Cooper was like a young Jim. It also because I don't totally even believe he like boned Grace, Kelly. I think he kind of just said that I don't. I mean, everybody said that Grace Kelly slipped with everybody, which I don't really, let's so gross leave. It feels like one of those things like haha. Yeah, whisper network. This is kind of gross thing that Gary Cooper said about Grace. Kelly. It's been quite a few years since we had a girl in pictures that looks like she was born on the right side of Park Avenue. He says, looks like she could be a Colt dish with a man until you got her pants down and then she'd explode do not Grace. Kelly who married a prince would bone that fucking dude. Yeah, no way. It's interesting to hear those words out of like pickle from this time periods mouth and that on record somewhere. Oh boy. And you agrees Kelly is very pretty in this movie, but I'd also say that she sticks out a little bit. You know she's a Quaker, but it just seems like she's a movie star in a western. When you look at the way they're filming grace Kellyanne this, they're totally giving her the favorite treatment when favorite winds up on king Kong's island, which is the only one in white. She's so pale and she just popped against everything else. I mean, when you see her in her bridal dress, she is glowing in everybody else's in like darker colors. They make her walk through this movie almost like a ghost, you know, like the exceptional blonde is here yet, and there's zooming really interesting about just as we're talking about the way they shot this movie, and that's why she's even more shocking about it too. You know, the director, Fred cinnamon wanted this Kat stark look to the film, and so the Semedo Floyd Crosby just kinda did this by not filtering the sky and having the prince made like a little bit lighter than normal. So the movie looks almost. Nuwari for a western if you like, you know, there's a, there's the shadowy too, but she really like, looks like she's una different film. Yeah, they're making this gritty. I mean, it's kind of raging bullish on like what they're doing with this processing is they're trying to make it look really ugly and they had to fight for it because the producers, some of the producers were like, we hate the way this footage looks because to them. We already had those beautiful fo- colour, John Wayne westerns. Yeah, where the sky was all lit up and it was gorgeous and it was yellow, and it was blue and the red rocks they're like, what is this weird? Like? High contrast shit and the way they wanted the film to look. They wanted it to look like a newsreel which I like that they use the word newsreel which to me gives it this almost even more immediacy of saying store quality that makes it feel real or something and saying like, hey, this is also what's happening. It's raw. Yeah, for a western which, yeah, I guess it's important for us to talk about it and put it in context because I think we have. This thing I have this thing where you see a black and white movie and you're like, oh, it's just old and it's e old and that's how they did it. No, no, this was a choice, one hundred percent. And I think there are a lot of cool flourishes in this film. I mean, one of the best, it's in the trailer and I play a clip of it, but it doesn't even register because it's very visual is when they're talking about this bad guy who's coming into town, they do this push in on the chair and you kind of hear the story, but as you're going, that's a really cool. I've got cool artistic way to kind of, you know, at an importance is character and tell you the story like he was in that chair. And here we are. Yeah, I love that. You're saying that because that is a clip I pulled really for two reasons. I fought it for two reasons. One, I love how it suddenly gets this horror music. Yeah, into I had this in my head of a Clint Eastwood at the other lake RNC where he gave a speech share empty chair, and I was like, I wonder if he got that idea from high noon, it's a chair. It's dramatic. Let's play the chair showed you want to be so stupid forgotten what to use if it got what he's done to people who've gotten these crazy. Remember when he said in that chair and said, you'll never. You'll never Wilton. I swear. I. I mean, it's it's such an interesting choice in a movie that is kind of static. They're made a couple of really crazy stylized choices. I think when you talk about horror movie, ask the clocks are shown that way. As the film kind of continues, you go into the clocks more and more. You know they're getting bigger and bigger as you're getting closer to noon when the train is gonna come to town, and then they do that shot where he's walking through the village at the very end facing his death and the camera looks at him and then pull all the way back up into the sky so that you see, there is no one. He is. There's not dogs. There's not courses, there's chickens. There's probably not ants if you've got real close. No. And it all speaks to this director who was able to do all these specialty shots. He did four hundred shots and four weeks. That's a hundred shots a week. That's a insane amount of coverage to get for this film. And I think again, wrestling with this idea, you're centerpiece. Character isn't as interesting as your direct to'real forces nor as some of your side characters. No, we keep on kind of bouncing around her. Let's do it. Let's talk talk. Katie Katie is this person a former lover of our. Our Marshall actually played a very important part in the film because she couldn't pronounce the actual name of the character. The originally the character was will don'-, but you can pronounce it. So they change it to will Cain, which is a small little little thing. But when she comes on screen and cheese, now we meet her kind of having this relationship with Lloyd bridges and you get so much out of her. She's she's electric from the moment. You meet her and maybe it's just because the first couple of scenes with all these people that are not necessarily popping or at least they weren't popping to me. I'm a mealy drowning. I wanna see that movie and she, she's great. I love her. I mean, Kasur was a Mexican movie star. This movie she did, and I don't think she. Had like a full on blooming career. It's, I guess it's a cliche disservices modern because maybe she's not modern. Maybe we had people who are that bad ass back then, but she's like this mogul. She's like this businessman. She's this got this huge heart. She takes no shit from anybody. Not her boyfriend, not Lloyd bridges, but right is dead. But usually when you see this character in a western film, you know the woman who lives upstairs in the hotel layer, the woman who takes lovers. She's usually a prostitute, right? Exactly. Inches usually going to have to quote unquote redeem herself for being a prostitute by dying. Usually what happens to her is like she leaps in front of the bullet for Gary Cooper and redeems herself that way Helen doesn't do that. Helen gets the fuck outta town with her money. She's smart. She's smart and I love her. And yet the people in town seem to think that she's a prostitute. Even though she isn't like, my favorite thing is when she's just made this deal with this dude to have him by her out. He starts to thank her and then. He insults her and you know that she knows it. MS Ramirez, I wanna thank you for everything. I mean when you first called me and put the deal to me about stake in the store and and being a silent partner, you know, my wife thought. What I really mean to say is that you've been real decent to me right along, and I want you to know that I've been honest with you. I know you. I know you goodbye. My wife. No, I know actually, I feel a little bad that the Katie clip I just had a doesn't have Katie talking that much. So let's do like a bad ass Katie glib. And to me, this is Katie talking about machines MO in general way that I feel like pierces through this western to people who love western people who love this kind of hair was in that. I think she is questioning in that people like Travis Bickel or like IAEA. You're going to be worried about long as I'm around. Oh, that. To take him on anytime. I believe you boy, you're going. King. Why are you going. K. k. eight isn't game, but I'm going to tell you something about you and you came looking boy. You have beak grow shoulders, but he is in men. Take more. The big blow show this to make him in heavy, and you have a long way to go. You know something. I don't think we live make. Let me do something going anyway. You stay with me. It's going to be just like it was before he went to no way. Came could be a dead man in half an hour. Nobody's going to do anything about it when he died this town, I can feel it all alone in the world how to make a living. So I'm going to place else that's on us for you. I don't like anybody to put his hands on me unless I want him to an, I don't like you anymore. Kidding. Wow. Well, you know, this is strong female character who is not a white woman. And do you know anything of this time to be like? Is that a rarity that she's in this movie in a role like this yet? 'cause you're at this movie on its own basically has no women. It has. It has Grace Kelly, and it has a Helen, and then there's like some kind of old women you see around like a personal answers the door, but that's really the husband is a coward. Yeah. Yeah. When you kind of drill down, it's interesting high noon. I think part of what may be made Howard hawks and John and John Wayne mad about it is in the giant shootout heat. He doesn't save the day alone. You know, Gary Cooper doesn't save the day alone. Grace, Kelly shoots one of the dudes and then clause. The other ones is out. She basically he kills one and a half. She kills one and a half, and I think there were a little ended that like a woman did. You know, I think there are a little bit offended that he got saved by. Chick. The way I looked at this movie without knowing its historical connotations was it was a meditation on small town life, like the idea that people are talking behind your back, they know your business. Like when Grace Kelly goes to the hotel and the hotel clerk is kind of snarky to her and kind of reveals that you know, Gary Cooper had an affair Helen, and just the idea that people say one thing to your face and one thing behind your back. And you know, I just I felt like it was about small town life, but I guess in thinking about it, Hollywood is the small, the smallest town. In many respects, you know, it's a town built on gossip. It's town that is built a little bit on backstabbing and, and you know, saying one thing to somebody's face and another thing behind it, you know, maybe you know. So I did get something out of it that just did not have the political context, but still was getting the idea of this universal problem which is like sometimes small town life can eat you up in. The best thing to do is get out of there. It's true and also speaking of how fast gossip travels everywhere Grace Kelly goes there already calling her MRs Cain and I'm like, just got married. 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I love it for all the things that that make it so different from traditional westerns from the fact that it was shot to look like Matthew Brady photographs to the incredible weakness and rottenness of all the people in the town. Everything that you know is the reverse of what we come to expect that. So then what I guess the inverse of that question is, what do people expect at a western, the classicists, what kind of a western do they wanna know they expect a hero. They expect John Wayne and of course, in response to this film, John Wayne and Howard hawks made Rio Bravo. Oh, to essentially say this is what would really happen in this kind of situation because the law man wouldn't as as Wayne described it run around likey whip dog, begging everyone to do his job for him by now go into his job and hope that he didn't die. It's know in talking about it. I didn't even put it together, but it's very similar to blazing saddles in a way to because like blazing saddles the whole town. I mean, there's played for comedic affect, but like everyone abandons this sheriff who is facing off against this group of bad guys. And you know, the only person that there is there's this drunk gunslinger singer that will come to his aid. It's funny because it never struck me, but you're absolutely right. And of course in both know, as you say in blazing saddles, you gene wilder the professionally drunk right guy, but you also have who are the people that are willing to help Gary Cooper a kid. And yeah. A one I drunk. Oh, interesting. Elegant that do we have the west correctly in our heads because we were talking about the pioneer spirit. I was wondering if we just guess it with the pioneer spirit was because we saw a lot of movies about pioneers. Never met one wanna be interesting things about that though is Western's did not just start like in the nineteen fifties. When all those people were gone, there were many silent early talkie westerns that were made by people who had in fact been out there had been lawmen and outlaws of course it's all terribly self. You know, whoever's doing their version. They were the heroes and also have the advantage that survive longer than anyone anyway. What's the difference between sheriff in a Marshall. It's really an odd sort of mix sheriffs and marshals and deputies and frequently their authorities overlapped. A sheriff was generally a law man for specific town and deputies would be under them. Marshals were often working directly for the state or federal marshalls, and so they had broader powers and covered more area. That's interesting because two of the women in this film that are play these crucial parts like Katie Gerardo and Grace. Kelly are very strong women. You know, Grace Kelly helps win the gunfight at the end of the film, a Quaker with the gun. Yeah, they to see representation of this Mexican actress and she's playing a very strong type. Is that a different type of woman that we're seeing in western films? At this point, she is an extremely unusual character in western movies. And great fun. The women that you had were generally either schoolmarm or you know that kind of very innocent character or there were saloon girls, right? And the interesting about caddy Harada's character is as you say, she is incredibly smart, independent, good businesswoman, not impressed by men trying to oppressor. She sure isn't impressed by Lloyd bridges. She just about Ryan's dirt and she gets out. She doesn't come back. She's gone to fight, you know, and that that was a really interesting choice to what's what was sort of thing with episode is, you know, we've only ever grown up knowing postmodern westerns like that's, I think what steep done more than anything like, well, it's not like your ordinary western, but I almost no the ordinary westerns less put this in context. This is a huge period for westerns all things western. Now that's true. Both for film and television with TV. There were times of, there's. As many as thirty six different western series in the fifties running per week. You can see why they burned those out. Yeah. Why was that? Why were we so interested? I just think there's there's a great appeal of of pioneering stories and it just it really clicked them. And one thing about westerns if you sit down and make a western now if is very expensive prospect to substantial one. But back then it was very inexpensive because the sets were standing the costumes were available. And in fact, the more battered they looked the more realistic you had Wrangler 's. You had people who knew how to do everything and it was it was all easily accessible. The problem now is if you set out to do even a fairly simple western, you have to start from scratch. You have to build everything. You have to find your own props don't shoot like most westerns even on like the same couple sets while westerns. Yeah, look the same. I mean, there's a set that I use when I was doing one of my shows and it's great. It's it's set deck. It's where they deadwood. It's out there. It's, you know, it's a living, breathing thing. You know, Clinton Tino shot there as well. It's like it's, but yet there's only so many few locations that actually can accommodate a film and look presentable on camera. But I wonder, if do you find 'cause I, I've only seen a handful of westerns, you know, do you find they're often morality tales or they or they just action, or you know, or are they trying to tell, you know, trying to tell something or they or they just another way to skin action about the two required things. Even at saloon fight is something about pioneering spirit, right? And a moral point, some character that has some big moral choice that they have to make a decision with. I've always thought that one of the most basic appeals of westerns is we all go through life deal. With decisions that we have to make that aren't that decision that we want to make where we have to say, okay, it's time to throw that guy down a flight of stairs. You don't do it because you don't want to go to jail. I think because we are, you know, animals at certain level. There is a desire to be physical and deal with things in a direct way and not worry about what's going to happen after just do what you think you want to do in your heart. Yeah, and I think that's the great joy of westerns is you get to watch Clint Eastwood do that. Watch John Wayne do that. It's it's that kind of that Bartok or coffee talk like, well, if I was there, maybe I would have done this. I would you get Monday morning quarterback or via these films was allowed west really this violent. Now, the funny thing is that some of it was and some of it wasn't the places that we hear about like deadwood tombstone. Well, deadwood was. Very violent tombstone had big bursts violence, but wasn't that bad overall? The most violent city in the old west is Los Angeles. Oh, wow. And the rate of murder in LA in the late eighteen hundreds was just staggering lie was violent hair. I think it was just it was sort of the end of the country. It was as far away as you could get from every place else. So a lot of the worst elements you know, ended up coming to LA. I think right now we're in a culture where when you're a little bit younger westerns are not probably one of your favorite genre. I think you know, I grew up going, oh, I might dad likes a western and he showed me Silverado. And I like Virata. I think that was my first kind of entry point in, and then I found, unforgiven, you know, really love true grit. But I've kind of moved forward in the western world. What are like three or four western films that you feel like people who feel like they don't like. Westerns should see to kind of change their opinion on on a western stagecoach. I think everyone needs to see. I always refer to it as the citizen Kane of west, which is in a way way ironic because of course, Orson Welles studied stagecoach before he made citizen king. Wow, that's definitely on our list die gets that we're gonna get there. Gosh, any of the Becker Randolph Scott westerns there about eight of those? Well, of course, Sergio Leonis. Yes. This full of dollars few dollars more and especially the good the Bentley ably and there's a famous face in those movies leave and cliff who makes his debut here in high noon doesn't get to say a word leaving cliff people can picture him. He's the guy with the pointy face, and the narrow is he's one of our first close ups us the very first shot. It is the story to I heard that Zimmerman offered leaving a bigger role, a speaking role. But he said, if you want the speaking role, you have to get plastic surgery. Yes, that's that's what leave and please. It that he would have to have a nose job, and then he would get to play Frank Miller. So he wanted him to look like it's lightly, nicer guy or more attractive. And he said he told cinnamon to f expletive himself. And so he was written out, but it's been liked his face so much that he kept him eating, you know, he brought him back. It's the other character, but it is fun that he is the only person who has all sorts of screen time who never says a word by the way random aside while we're talking about the the bit players in the Miller gang shed Woolley was in show bully who did the purple people eater song, who is the guy scream of the William scream. We are all around to William scream, love together, rockstar extraordinaire showing up all these movies in different ways. Well, Henry, can you tell us where we can find you online or where where where what you're up to that we can kind of continue our our interactions with you? Absolutely. You can find me online. I write Henry's west round up the online report in western film production, and that's it. WWW dot Henry's western roundup dot blog spot dot com. I'm also the film editor for true west magazine, and you can find my articles in there every month. And if you like to get into really deep dish, talked about spaghetti westerns. I done audio commentary on its approaching dozen to leave him cleats and bump to do my third Franko Niro to Ringo's to site Hannah's. That's blast. Oh, I got the check those out. That's great. Thank you so much. You know, Amy, there's a show that I kinda referred to as the godfather of podcast. It's called never not funny toasted by Jimmy Pardo, and it's one of the podcasts that started way way back in the day and he's had on everyone that has ever been on a podcast. Jimmy Pardo basically jokes around with his sometimes famous and always funny friends. And we could sell you a line of bull about how Jimmy solving murder mysteries are interviewing presidents, but that'd be false. No, it's the free flowing. Funny conversation built around Jimmy's neck for always finding the funny. Have you been on? I've never been on. I've never been on, but he just had this person on who I'm like, totally obsessed with good place. Oh yeah, I love the. I love the place he had to Honey. He had to millage Amelia on which I mean, she's so brilliant. She's the funniest thing in that show, and I love the. He's like yet we're giving her like highlight time and just letting her show off all of our awesomeness. I'm so excited. They also people like Pat knows. While Reiner Colin Hanks Cristello Alonzo tiller Goldsmith I was on the show and he actually found my step sister that I had like lost contact with. Yeah, I was talking about my stepsister and his listeners figured out who she was on Facebook and put me in touch with her because I never, I was a kid and I kind of lost touch with my my my step siblings and they've put them together. I've been on once or twice, and I really like it. You, you know, you find fun people and weird things like that happen. That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard Paul. I'm like really impressed. This show is basically like like like late away mysteries. Yeah, I don't know. And if you wanna just maybe jump in and catch like what the whole shows about. You can jump into the podcast, the phone, which featured Peter people like Conan O'Brien to taro Royo, Molly, Impala, Tompkins, and you can find that right in the never not funny feed. So check out never enough funny on Stitcher apple podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. We were talking about, you know, kind of quiet, hushed endings. I mean in the last fifteen minutes of I knew I think Cooper says, like ten words, I totally agree. The last act of the movie is like a silent film which actually was one of the first thoughts I had when I started watching it because watching the the villain's henchman just be out on the range it. They were acting a little bit more broad. And that of course is Lee van Cleef right there, but it felt like goes watching silent film until until we got into the actual wedding. It's true. And now I'm like playing the ending scene again in my head. You know, I feel like there's a version of this movie where he drops the badge in the dust. He doesn't step on it, John. He does not step on it, but he walks away and then you see, like a little kid, pick it up to know what I mean Ling. I got it. I'm going to do it like it's fine. I like. That they don't do that here, but where they do do that or they do screw up is, did you know that they make sequel to high noon what they make a sequel to high noon in nineteen eighty with. Okay. Now with Gary Cooper, no, Gary Cooper, they do it with Lee majors. They magazine go to high new nine hundred eighty s called high known to the return of will can would. Yeah, and it's supposedly takes place year after all of this where we'll Kane comes back to highly Bill. He comes back to his town. There's like totally corrupt people in charge. So he shoots all the corrupt people who are now in charge of Hadley Bill and it ends with him picking up the badge and putting it back on and you're like, oh, that's exactly the opposite of what I knew about. Yeah, it's written by Elmore Leonard. Here's the trailer. Only one of these men will be alive, believe majors will Cain and ex law men facing the fight of his life with pronounced rub. It's a corrupt Marshall. Bring anyone back alive. Anybody, David carradine's caught in the crossfire along with wills. White time is running out for the hero, the hunter at the town, locked in the grip of terror and all new motion picture, Saturday, November fifty, nine, eight central amount. I do too. TV movie well, oh, well, that is bananas, Amy, we've talked so much about how this movie is culturally affected us, but I'd be remiss if we didn't ask how it affected a small town called Springfield. Is there a Simpsons clip? Is there Simpson's clip? There's basically a Simpson's episode. It's called got a brand new badge. What happens in this episode is Homer start security firm. The security firm winds up having to be the new sheriff in town. Then take over in one of the things that Homer does with his new powers is he very much angers this bad guy called fat, Tony. So fat Tony says, he's going to go to Springfield at noon. He's gonna murder Homer. Simpson in Homer. Simpson goes to church, asking the good people of Springfield for help. Shape for you and your children tricked her treated at many of your host is next year. I was jar jar, pinks know who will stand at fight with me. Please. Why don't you just leave? What. Let them come after you into kids could come roof, you would know air conditioning and the little poop machine going every twenty minutes. Amazing. Now, Amy, it's time for some year facts. All right. Nineteen fifty to the average cost of Newhouse was nine thousand dollars. Average cost of a new car was one thousand seven hundred dollars. It's an interesting year because the diary of Anne Frank is published this year. The today show program debuted KFC opened its doors for delicious affordable chicken, probably the most popular chain around the world. Yeah, I've, that's what I heard in mad magazine releases. Its first issue. Also Agatha Christie's murder play. The mouse trap opens becomes the longest running production in history. Other popular films at time African Queen greatest show on earth, the quiet man and singing in the rain. As far as what what's going on in the news candidate. Richard Nixon defends himself on television over allegations of a secret cash fund. Rocky Marciano becomes the world heavyweight champion after not jersey, Joe Walcott, Charlie Chaplin refused entry back into the US after live. Ving in Hollywood for twenty years, probably do the blacklist. I imagine. And here's really interesting. California had its second largest earthquake rocking one hundred thousand square miles plus a live atomic nuclear bomb tests happened in Yuka flats in Nevada. And that was shown on TV, makes me feel comforted that the world is really screwed up then to you're right. It's like you can see parallels of what we are going through now and what's always going on. I think maybe there was never a time where people are just cool. Everything was going just fine. Maybe that's why back then. They're like, let's hang out in the wild west and everybody's a good person and everything is fine. Right? So this movie is pretty high on the list. It's number twenty. Seven, yeah. Do you believe that a belongs the list? You believe it belongs on the list. I mean, there's a lot of westerns on the list. There are a lot of westerns list. What if I said, no, you know what, Amy, I'm going to agree with you that in watching these films and I can only judge it on my experience in watching them. I agree. I don't think this belongs on the list. It's it's a good movie. It just didn't get me the way that other films have. I've had an amazing time talking to about it and kind of hearing the history about it, like the behind the scenes of this movie is way more compelling than I felt that I felt when I was watching it. Yeah, I feel the same way I got my voice. Got so passionate being like communists and hit a higher. No my God. When I think about the movie about what I like about it, I like everything outside of the movie. I like the Gary Cooper, this here who I was sort of like, all right. I'm watching you kinda like with, okay, okay, I get it. You're you're the tough guy. You're going to go it alone. You look a little vulnerable. All right. You. Like every manly men showing just the right calibrated amount of weakness. Okay. Cool. I like your Cooper better off the screen. I mean, Gary Cooper was on the only guys who stood up to John Wayne and to everybody like yelling at Forman. He told the press, he stood up to the press. He said that Forman was the finest kind of American when that was not a popular thing to say. And yet when Stanley Kramer the producer tried to remove forms name from the film Cooper threatened to quit. I like that Cooper did that. I like the Cooper was the hero offscreen the one guy standing alone as much as he was onscreen. That means this film is important in its historical significance, but I don't know if it has to be on the greatest films of all time. If you tell me which put die hard on the list, one of this whole time, I know yes. And I think it's a little bit more relevant in maybe I'm getting to this point where I'm believing that it's okay if a movie that in. Spires. Another great movie isn't on the list because this list isn't ever-evolving list and it should be something that is growing. We shouldn't just have a list that stays from the fifties in the in the sixties jasmine that should be as up to date and as modern as the Lissette self is true. Although if you're asking me like what I rather have high noon on the list or one of those westerns that's like everybody was great. I'd rather have high noon, but you know it the movie that John Wayne and Howard hawks made to rebut it. Real Bravo is not on the list, right, but unforgiving it then forgiving is I did. I did look it up. I was like real Bravo's on this list. That's kind of fascinating. They're like complimenting both sides very find westerns on both sides. But this movie also falls into that category that we've talked about in the past. It's in the library of congress. So it's sort of like we know that this is a movie that is respected, and I think it does have historical significance, but that doesn't mean that always has to be one of the best films. I just I do. Like eighty of wrestling with our pass because that's what a western movie is fighting over what America was. You know? I mean, even even the director, even cinnamon said, you know, people are like, this isn't who the west was, and he was like, if you say, this is not a western character, it's true. I wasn't there in eighteen sixty, but neither was Howard hawks, boom, boom, boom. Now let's roll that die. All right. Well it's that time the show where he rolled his little magic guy right here. What's his name? Zo villi he drawn right Zoki. He joke, he hundred sided. One hundred and what I learned an interesting fact about this guy this weekend really did you know that Zoe heater is not the proper name for hundred sided die, that it is named after its inventor lose. Okey, whoa, did not know that. Look at that me neither that explains, I could not remember what the fuck it was called, but now that I know lose okay, I will not forget lose. Okey is okay. He joined. I won't forget it now either. All right. All right, roll it. So Lou we like your balls. Cool job. He didn't make this ball. Probably die is probably a better. You know, it's a die, respect the die. So I'm going to go to the. It is thirty right? So looking here on the af by list. Ooh, Apocalypse Now who God. That's a big one, Amy, we're going into the jungle. I know. I feel like we had a little bit of a break, but now we're going back into a American classic. I mean, another one. Oh, man, let's do it. You don't think probably everyone is seeing Apocalypse Now or at least knows a little bit about it. Wouldn't it be fun if we had people call in and just give us like a piece of Marlon Brando wisdom. I think in Apocalypse Now he's known for ad-libbing. A lot of these things like seeing a a snail walk across a razor and things like that would if you just called in and made up some wisdom Ella Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now does that to be a real line just your own kind of people drink LaCroix and they they get fizzy bellies. I don't know some of that. That's terrible. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready. I could use some wisdom. Let's see if we can all be a little Marlon Brando in our lives. Seven four seven six six six five eight two four. That is seven four seven six six six five eight two four. And we will see you next week four pop-ups which is available pretty much anywhere that you wanna watch movies and I can't wait talk about this movie. Hey, buddy party here from the award winning podcast. Never not funny. Hey, if you haven't checked us out in a while or if you've never listened to his rabbit. A lot of phone over here with the great guest, including this gentleman, Mr. Conan O'Brien. Why don't you up at all. 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Hour 2: What Fringe Teams Should Be Buyers Or Sellers?

Big Time Basketball

52:44 min | 8 months ago

Hour 2: What Fringe Teams Should Be Buyers Or Sellers?

"Before before we move onto the West I do offer that I have a question because I think like you know when you look at the Pistons on paper you go like from the outside spectacle you gotta blow this thing up like the. What is your ceiling your ceiling? If you you bring back Drummond and bring this thing back together as as you said getting beaten the as the year out like that doesn't seem like there's much hope to be any better than that and then looking in years past it was always like hey age you know I have the trailblazers peak do they trade a mccollum or like even going further back you go. Hey the clippers. With the Andre Jordan Chris Paul and Blake Griffin like. Have they peaked. You look to break this thing up like when you. Yeah no that you've hit a ceiling as a franchise. How hard is it to then say we have to take a step back before we take Ford? How hard is that they want to sell to your owner Andrew? Just make that call because you know you could safely say. Hey We're a playoff team. That's cool but you know you're never going to be a title contender. Like what is the line on that Ryan. It's really hard. What do you guys can imagine especially when you're used to winning when you win? Fifty plus Games a year. And you're playing for home court advantage. And you're a solid playoff team. And that's why I give Lawrence Frank and the group in L. A.. With the clippers a ton of credit for what they did I mean it looks easy. In hindsight but trading Blake Griffin when they did about six months after they sign them or that huge contract and compared him to Obama in Gandhi Einstein. And some of the all time you're create figures in the history of our world to do that was controversial at the time they did did it and then even more so I I think last year when they were rolling to Trade Tobias Harris to Philly and and and and still continue to win and win forty eight games and push the warriors the first round but That's an example of working out. Great there are a number of other examples of where you think. We're taking a step back. We're going to do it in the short term to Peru early. And you don't even get to where you you were before. So that's the risk. It depends on your organizational timeline and how patient you think the owner is going to be to let you see it through but honestly guys that's why most teams don't do it. Even when they I should do it now I think Detroit's situation is different. I think it's apparent to all of us and more importantly to the owner. Tom Gores in the front office. Detroit that there's no other option Blake Griffin injured with the with the team being mediocre. Now that they do have another very talented young player to keep an eye on a sacred and boy. We haven't mentioned the rookie out of France. WHO's been untouchable? I think in any any deal but I think if you're Ed Stefanski you go to Gore's and say look we have boy. I think he might be a star. We really like ours progress. Let's try to add one or two more guys. Let's let's see what happens. And maybe rose and Galloway some of our other veteran players and try to do this the right way get rid of our bad contracts reset our finances his assets via the draft and try to build this thing slowly over three or four year period and Hopefully the owners on border that. Yeah so Danny Aines did it. Edward Garnett Pierce right tamp. Rusty did it Russell and Paul George so there are some exacts that and obviously ABC. We hear Bill Belichick. Does it all the time a year too early year too early right. So as opposed to be late so there are some executives out there that will part with their team when it's still a good team but typically the ones with equity built up right like those are the danny and pressed you'll have have built a are. Are they know their job is in jeopardy anytime soon. They're going to have time to rebuild whereas in it makes it is fascinating to hear the Human Helmet Ryan to be like. Hey if a guy doesn't have that I and he's looking at just keep his job he's not GonNa look to do that and in which is again the detriment of a lot of these franchises. That that's a really interesting point. Is that human element of that Scott. Why don't before we move out of the West once you give us a quick read here from ziprecruiter got nowhere New Year so talk about how challenging hiring is? It's hard to find candidates you you could get fired in the future if you hire a GM that's afraid of getting fired like all those things right. But ziprecruiter makes it easy ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash slash enter ziprecruiter. Send your job to over. One hundred of the Web's leading job boards. They don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes is to find people with the right experience by supply to your job as applicants come in ziprecruiter analyzes each one and spotlights the top candidates. So you never never miss a great match zip recruiter so effective that four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a qualified candidate within the within the first day and right now our listeners can try cruder for free at this exclusive web address ziprecruiter dot com slash enter that's ziprecruiter dot com slash e. n. t. e. r. ziprecruiter dot com slash. Enter Ziprecruiter the smartest way to Hire Ryan. Speaking of this. We mean Cerruti Freddie said how do you get a job interview from when you were in Boston. How did you get a job interview in Phoenix? How how many people got a job interview? Why did they pick these four or five people like how exactly does it work in the NBA with coaches or with with front office people or even like assistant office people? How do you decide who to hire? Is there like an advisory board a good good question scale. I mean like anything else. It helps to have organizational success. So as you know in Boston when I was in the last six years we were in the playoffs. Every year went to three conference finals else to NBA Finals and then won the championship in. Oh eight so that all helped We're in Phoenix I think they wanted some different candidates with different backgrounds and different levels of experience guys hundred for the job when he thirteen were myself I was the quote unquote young up and coming candidate. I was thirty three years old when I was hired by the sons They also interviewed. Jeff Weltman who's gone on to be the president of the Orlando Magic Jeff traveling forties at the time and then Scott Layden who was in his fifties the time and the most experienced of all of us as far as running teams Scott had run the UTAH. Jazz and New York. Knicks obviously went onto after he didn't get the The job in Phoenix went on to run the Minnesota Timberwolves for a few years along with Tom Thibodeau. So that's how that process worked but every organization's different every every franchise is different. Some owners will hire a search firm to do that. That's becoming more and more common more and more in vogue around the league others will just make calls on their own. The all other owners Paul presents in general managers obviously usually the more successful teams to get a list of names and see if those guys have anybody on their staffs that is worth worth an interview so again every team is different but you guys gave me a great idea. Maybe at the end of this season next summer as much as I'm enjoying doing scallon pals maybe a resume ziprecruiter. Let's see if I can put my resume on Ziprecruiter. You guys can help me with it and we'll Polish it up a little bit. Maybe mentioned the good things we did gloss over some of the things. We didn't do as well leave out the goats. A few things like that that I think would really look good and maybe get some place for our friends at Ziprecruiter. Listen you put you put you know co Co host of a main contributor on Gals your job. You want right. I'll tell you that right now. That's that's that's about as high as it gets. Yeah maybe I can perk head coach coming locker room and talk about how it teams owned every night. I I don't know why everytime perks says getting bone. I I just laugh I in the back of what. I'm trying to keep a straight face. Just seeing perkin locker room would be. It'd be worth the price of admission. Even if I got fired the day to I think it was still be worth it. I unless you the best you real. You'll tell Kevin Durant was well. Listen I mean I mean well actually no before we do. You have any thoughts on that right because we I mean that was Garin tire show on Friday and we had a lucky enough to have perk on I I think perk was right and then as soon as Katie he kinda came in there and tried to take a jab at them through haymaker. Yet thing I understand and obviously I'm biased to perk because I have a relationship with perk we Adam Adam as a player with the Celtics and he's on the show and all around great guy but I don't understand why a player is good Kevin Durant. Can't you leave something like that alone as you guys know. It's hard to the business. You face criticism. Even if you're Lebron James or one of the greatest players of all time which I put Kevin Durant in that category as top twenty maybe even a top top ten player in NBA history but when Kendrick Perkins says on twitter that Russell Westbrook is the greatest member of the Oklahoma City. Thunder are like Mr Thunder. I don't understand Dan why you can't just say you know what. Maybe I disagree with that. But I'm not going to comment about it. You know why you'd stoke the flames of that fire and get dragged into it now. It seems like Kevin Durant can't obviously likes those twitter battles. They seem petty to me in some beneath them. But you know what he does. And he's unapologetic for it. But Yeah I side with perk. I understand understand what he was saying. And I thought on the show and when you went on the jump on Friday he clarified what he man is that he wasn't saying that Russell Westbrook's the best player the most talented player ever to play play for the thunder. That's Kevin Durant so the fact that Katy couldn't see that or that he would you know. Ignite this argument. Just really doesn't make any sense to me. But that's who he is and he Kevin Durant the thirty year old man now. He's been doing this for a long time so I don't see him changing in good good for perk for not backing down and not not bowing down to Katie. You're saying you're right. Katya was wrong. I thought perk in the right way respectfully stood his ground. That's one of the reasons we love having on the show I don't get why. How far would ah win? If Katie said that at Perkins is keeping at one hundred like that man. WESTBROOK IS MR thunder out. If Katie would have done that you know what that would have done to his image. How easy would that have been for him to do that? Even if you don't believe it it's so easy. That's that's the way it you could say this to throw shine. I squash all beef of all. Be All it doesn't take listen shacking Kobe. They had there beep. They had like they showed each other love on twitter like for two days. You know they're hashing it out on. TNT and they see no. Everything is good. I don't know actually everything. Everything is good but they act like everything is good. It was a good moment for Katie to be like to be a better man and he failed. Yeah but I mean you got to remember sky like this Ah. This is years after the Kobe and chat thing we had A. We had tell me how my ass tastes. We had multiple rap battles back and forth like the. It wasn't cool it may it may be cool now but maybe wounded still fresh for Katie. I know but it's so it's so easy. It's so easy to take the high road nowadays and and everyone like Romanticize is about Out what they want you to be a great guy because you could shoot the jumper like when you suck. They want you to be a bad person so they can pile on you but when you're Katie. They want you to be a good dude so they could be like I told you guys. This guy's a great guy. He keeps he always been him in rough. Don't they don't have any beef. That's what people want. Everyone wants Koumba Ya. Let's let's do this because we only got about fifteen minutes left. Let's do some of the Western Conference teams here. So I want I'm GONNA throw. I'm I'm GonNa Start with the Grizzlies. I'm going to say what what would you do. What should they do and what you think will they do? So let's start with Memphis sitting at the eight spot currently occupying a playoff spot. Right now guys the Memphis Grizzlies currently my favorite team to watching the entire league. I love the way they're playing. I loved their system. What Taylor Jenkins Kansas on your one bringing a lot of the concepts that make wooden halls or implemented in Atlanta and now Milwaukee? I'm really enjoying watching them. The play they do the best young players in the League league in John Moran and Jaren Jackson Junior I liked the way valid Tunis's playing. He had another big game yesterday against Golden State and then they also have other young developing players like Brandon. Clark and Dillon Brooks so I'm bullish on Memphis. I do think they have a chance to make the playoffs. At the end of the day I think the Spurs experience in corporate knowledge starting with Gregg Popovich Itching on down to the Marta rose lamarcus Aldridge will get them in the eight spot. But I'm bullish on Memphis. I wouldn't change a whole lot if I were them. Obviously they'll they'll look to maximize Dala Allah and see what they can get frequent dollar but they're way ahead of schedule as much as any team in the League for me. There are a lot better than I thought they would be at this point in time so if climate in the Front Office in Memphis I just leave that thing alone if you can get A. I can't get a perfect couple. Good second surname intriguing player Andrei dollar and just let it ride. And we I thought the Grizzlies at least might be in this position two or three years so now they're already there and The future's really bright memphis. Are You with me Ryan where you would even. If the other way to come back. You wouldn't let them come back right. You know I've gone back and forth on that one scale. That's a tough one for me. They have guys like Jae crowder replying fairly well now. The challenges is an executive. You say look if we really want to make the playoffs then Andrea Dalla is better than Solomon Hill. And he's way better than Marco Gouda rich so he would help our team but the challenge is not just. These decisions aren't made individually. It's if we bring in Guatemala in well how does that impact crowd crowder house. That Impact Hill. What what's the dynamic in our locker room where we just said? Hey Andre we don't need you for training camp and the preseason and take the first Fifty Games of the year off and we didn't think we were going to be very good. Actually now we're pretty good so by the way now we need you and we're going to need you to learn on the fly all our offensive and defensive terminology and get familiar with your teammates so I think from an individual talent perspective. I'd make the move at the end of the day. My guess is that the grizzlies don't make the move just because of how it impact the other players and also how it would look more than anything given that they let the guy take the first two thirds of the season off. Everybody in the world knows trying to trade Andre but let me just say this if you did hire me and I didn't really I would keep it real with the players but I would also keep it real with you. I will not allow you to bring Egwu hot. I'd be like big GonNa. We're not doing this. And what do you want me to yell at today. Go Yell at him and I'll come back and say but I'll yell you if you bring him back in so that's what you get with me. I keep it real on both sides. That's going to hurt his chances to get a job security held. I'll just be honest. WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT DOWN ON SCALE ZIPRECRUITER head. Coaching Resume House. I will yell at you. Yeah I will yell at you. That's scalise I the first bullet point Sharon ZIP allows you. They will not allow you to bring him in. I will not allow it. It will not be okay. I would tell I tell you a dollar. You can't be around my team all right well. Guys guys made his point clear. I let's do this. I will. San Antonio was tied with Memphis that eight spot right now Ryan. What would you we do and what you think they will do well? It's interesting guys. I heard earlier in the year when they were struggling that they were really thinking about exploring the market for or Demar Derozan and lamarcus Aldridge in that a Gregg Popovich was surprisingly open to doing a full blown rebuild. If that's what was best for the franchise I think he realizes this is not what a championship caliber team. It may not even be a playoff team in the western conference so he's secure in his legacy with the five championships and one of the greatest records in NBA history. That if they wanted the fully break it down and rebuild that he was open to that however over the last week or so schedule saw them in Boston. The team looks different. It seems like they're finally figuring get out and we've talked a lot about it on the show. I've always thought my fifteen plus years and in from offices now the two years I've been out I've always thought San Antonio screens is better passed as better cuts harder and does all the little things that help you win better than any team in the league. Football coaches called blocking and tackling. I think the Spurs block and tackle better than any team in the NBA. So they're getting back to that. It took half the season but I think they'll probably hold i. I don't think they'll make aggressive edition like I don't think they trade aide Lani Walker or one of the better young players to try to incrementally improve their team realizing that they're almost certainly a one and done if they make the playoffs in the first round. But I I do like the development growth in San Antonio it was pretty dicey early in the season. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I had my doubts about putting them in the playoffs which I had them in the preseason but I do think at the end of the day they'll ended up there and probably look to hold and then the Moro's another player option lamarcus. Aldridge is coming to the end of his contract. So if Popovich leaves in the next year or so I do think look to fully reset it with cap space but again they have young players in house and they have a market in a team that historically has been able to attract players given the franchise's success and the fact there are no state income taxes in Texas. Hey Wash San Antonio today or the next time they play watch they better better than any other team. Yes I one hundred percent agree with you there. Great off ball cutters every time they try one guy cuts one guy drifts. It's unbelievable to watch. They do something awesome. That's really unique so I'm big into driving closeouts right. Here comes the ball. You catch it on the run you get to the Basket Watch Antonio. They rarely do that. All the guys atra catching it with like a quarter second delay before they make a decision. I think it's all about like re reacting so there's a big push to read react offenses and really. I'm only talking to Ryan right here. It's really react offenses. You Watch. How when the ball moves every one is like reading the defense and everyone is moving on that guy either takes a quarter second shoots it dribbles it or moves it and I always thought like? Don't take that half a the second delay. It better just be one step ahead. I think that they're onto something here that I really liked the way that they're playing offensively and I think it's really the hard to guard. I don't know if they'll ever figure out how to start winning on the road but I do think I do think with their unit and away they played I unit the second you know. I think they're onto something right right. Now they're supposed to turn down but they played. They won in Boston Toronto this week. Right which harder places in the League to win. And there's a term for a scout the Gregg Popovich uses and then a lot of his disciples around the league also use. It's called point. Five is what they call their offensive philosophy point five means point point five seconds half of a second. You catch the ball you shoot it you drive it or you pass it. So that's why like you said. There is a pause contrast that to watch wash the rockets play in one of the guys that I point to young players as far as attack and close out so I think is maybe the best in the League is Erik Gordon now. He has a lot of space and he's playing off great players in Houston with James Harden and. Obviously it was Chris Paul and now Russell Westbrook but when Erik Gordon catches the ball and a close out there is no hesitation. The defense is rotating usually as along rotation Erik Gordon Master at throwing the ball out in front of them to gain additional space. And he's gone. That's different than what San Antonio does what San Antonio does is they catch it and they survey survey. Do I shoot it. Do I pass it. Do I drive it. What you don't see Scallon? I think this was the part of the point you're making is they. Don't dribble the ball backwards. They don't dance lance with it. They don't go nowhere with it. You see that a lot of teams around the league that guys are just playing with the ball and there's no advantage created in the shot clock winding down the Spurs. Don't do that. That's an institutional national thing that has been drilled and tapped by Gregg Popovich over the years. And I think some of the young players on the Spurs roster finally figuring how to do that effectively. And that's helping the team win. Some Games is that weren't winning. And you're on the air the that's the I just WanNa ask you a quick question if they are the eighth seed and the way that they've been playing. They're they're not going to challenge the Lakers right. I'M NOT I. I always overreact to like really good Organiz teams. Because that's what I like. I like that style of basketball but I'm not. I'm not better. They're not going to challenge the Lakers at all right now one eight at Ya no way okay just wanted me. I don't think so. Yeah I just think. The Lakers High Intel Lakers clearly have the two best players on the floor in a series like that. The clippers would as well with with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard I the way the Spurs win. Now it's a little bit different than how they won for the most of the past twenty years but how they win now is their system their depth. They have the best coach in the business Lakers are just more talented. So as you know scale you can win a lot of games in the regular season with your system by not making a ton of mistakes and with your depth I mean look at the Spurs burs minute distribution. They do it better than any team in the League as an executive I was always jealous that even their best players sometimes wouldn't even play thirty minutes they'd have like eleven guys play between twelve and twenty nine minutes or something like that cooks. Popovich can get away with that so I think that's how they win the regular season but as you know better than anybody at the end of the day in the playoffs talent wins especially high end talent and and when the Games are spaced out and Lebron James Anthony Davis can play thirty eight to forty minutes and then have a day or two off between games then. I don't think I have enough to overcome that. That's what also awesome makes a especially in the western conference. The one C was the Lakers. Now have by five game so important because they're basically going to be whoever it is that's going to be the easiest mash up by far in the first round and the Eastern conference is important. Obviously Milwaukee's got the two seat once whoever gets that to seed. You basically want to really valuable because you either probably going to get Brooklyn or Orlando. Oh and that's a much easier first round matchup than having to play Philly or Indiana or any of the teams that fall in that six inches. The how the seedings their work out a couple more of these before we let you go Ryan your former team. The Phoenix John's there was a game and a half out of the spot. Right now. You've got to think that they would want to improve this team. What would you do? What do they do? Yeah they've been kind of an up and down seem guys start they were seven four and then they really hit a rough patch around Christmas. Losing eight games in a row big win on Friday night that I think may have been a turning point. Wait for them. Cerruti your boy full-size pulse might a flat line eyeball turnover. Late late in. The game was second three best. Bet Me to those who did see the Game Orlando was up. Four with under a minute. Devon Booker hit a three and then I'm mark L.. Fullest lie ball turnover a booker looker. Another three in transition in Orlando went from up for two down to about twenty seconds applying time But to answer your question really I think they may look to incrementally improve their teen team backup point guard question mark for them Elliott Cobo. We drafted out of Franson in the second round of for years ago has done a solid job. But he's still a young player when booker or Rubio especially both enough. The floor of the team has struggled. So I think they'd look to maybe upgrade their backup point or backup ball handler. When those guys go the bench I think centre set obviously with me Deandra? Eight in an hour and Baynes so i. I don't think they have any glaring. Airing holds it look to address. The team has made progress this year. There in the playoff mix some of that is due to them playing better Kelly. Your brace played very well. Some of that is due to a lot of teams the western conference just the the eighth spot or that line being a lot softer and has been in the past. So my guess is Phoenix either holds or makes a slight addition to the roster. I don't see them doing anything drastic. Yeah given that. They played most of the first half of the season without Deandra Eytan due to the drug suspension and then due to a sprained ankle which cost five more games move onto onto Portland. You think any moves. That's a tough one for me. Scale I mean I I always thought they figure out a way with Damian Lillard and CJ mccollum to make the the playoffs. They haven't very good even those guys. I don't have a lot of help. It's important to keep in mind that they're missing their entire starting frontline or the guys they thought would start With Rodney Hood Zach Collins. Joseph Norwich all of those guys are injured. Some of them are for the year so I think they may realize whether they want to or not that they're they're. They're not going to be a playoff team this year. They just don't have enough talent depth on the front court. They do have some big expiring contracts with John Whiteside and can't base more my guests as they. I mean look to move. Those guys and maybe incrementally improved their team if they can get another frontcourt player low cost. I think they look at that to try to keep their team afloat. But they're in a little bit of a tough spot there too good to tank obviously with Damon. Cj but not good enough. I don't think to make the playoffs without some frontcourt help. But I can't see Neil O'Shea mortgaging the future to try to you again. Incrementally improved the team to get the get their ass kicked by one of the teams for example in the first round which I think would happen all the injuries and the lack of depth in the frontcourt. You like the Drummond fit there. I don't really like to Drummond fit anywhere scale for me personally but I do think he's better than Asana. Whiteside nightside with the challenge withdrew again. You look at this two ways one. Do I like him as a player. Better than whiteside. Yes I do. A lot of that honestly is because I take whiteside like as a player like drums game a little bit better. Even though I don't like it but the secondary part of that is do you want to then pay drummond you and I have a standing bet the twenty five dollars number bed. I'm GonNa win this bet by the way because they're not even operating picks for him who's going to pay the guy what's our bed. It's it was at twenty five a year. I'm GonNa Win Twenty Twenty five million a year which I'm starting to regret that decision and when we get off Air I'm going to call traveling like in Atlanta telling me needs drum and that's the guy you need to trade and you needed to pay him whether that ruins hockey not but it's not unimportant. I just need to win the scall- fired straight. So no I I think that's I don't see them going for like that. I mean Kevin. Love's name has been mentioned there you know one guy. It's interesting that I can't really figure out what the thunder doing. I'm hearing different things around the league. I think by all three of us and most of the people around the league that they would be sellers. But I don't think most of US anticipated that they would be on pace to win between forty five and fifty games and be a basically a playoff lock in the western conference at this point. As long as Chris. Paul stays healthy so I think a guy like Danilo. Gallinari would made a lot of sense in Portland if they were better. If they were in the playoff mix but I. I'm not sure that happens now because one. I don't think Portland is good enough and then to I don't know why okay voluntarily weaken their team keep in mind. You mentioned earlier sorority that okay see and the New Orleans Pelicans. Those teams got a boatload of assets in return. So at some point is an executive. If you're Sam Prestige all right. How many i John Pistole we need like is it? Is it more valuable to our franchise to make the playoffs to continue New York tremendous streak of success going here and okay see rather than getting the twenty four th pick in a week draft Danilo Gallinari. My guess is. That's what I would do if I were no Casey's for an office office said look we have all these picks already from the deals. We did with Paul George and Russell Westbrook we you know let. Let's keep this going. Let's win as many games. We can and keep o'casey is one of the most consistent and the successful teams in the league like happened over the last decade or so a couple more left tier Really Quick Minnesota. You told me like it's absolutely insane. You think about moving on from Karl Anthony towns. So we'll we'll put him inside any you know they're only what three two and a half games out. It just feels like there's a lot of teams that have to climb to get out of that. What do you what do you do? If you'RE MINNESOTA SODA like another disappointing year for them. In what do they have to move. How can they improve and what you think they do actually had to Minnesota this afternoon? I'm going to be at their game tonight against against okay. See so I'll see if there was a box fan for Kendrick Perkins that I can bring back and maybe shipped down to Houston for perk. Maybe maybe get one of the timber wolves to sign a form. I I think they need to figure out a long-term answer at the point guard spot. Jeff teague is an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. Keep in mind that he he was brought in by the previous front office. Scotland the Thompson who are no longer there. So they didn't answer it the one I mean. They're playing Shabazz Napier. Who's done a solid job? It was basically trade throwing for them so they really need a long-term answer at the one in the short term more than anything they need to get. Karl Anthony towns healthy and get them back on the floor. I mean he's an offensive force. We've talked some about issues defensively. But he's as good as any big in the league offensively he. He's been out the past few weeks. I think that's the interesting thing in the western conference so I mean historically if you're on pace to win between thirty and thirty five games midway through the year you have to pull the plug and say. There's no way we're GONNA make the playoffs as you guys know. Sometimes it takes forty five to fifty wins just to make it in the West this year. That's not going to be the case. There may be a team or two ATR below five hundred and makes it so I think Minnesota will see how it looks towns back in the lineup which seems like it's going to come here relatively soon and then you'll see if they can add a point guard but th th. They need something there guys short and long-term ended to find a solution at the point point guard position. And then see how that guy looks alongside towns wiggins and Covington last year Sacramento Sacramento. Real quick. And I am interested in New Orleans but Sacramento anything. They can't do anything right a garbage. Yeah and another tough one. Because they haven't fully been healthy and I think that's one of the frustrations for the Kings this year. Daryn Fox got hurt early early. In the season. Marvin Bagley got hurt. And then Bagley and Fox came back and then Bagley got hurt again. Now rashawn homes. It was a great fine for them is injured. He's out for a few weeks Bogdonovich has been in and out of the lineup. So I think they might just have to punt on this year guys. I know they don't WanNa hear that. In Sacramento given that they have the longest playoff drought out in the league given the thirty nine games and took a huge step last year and it looked like this may finally be the year that they breakthrough but I just think too. Many things have gone wrong for them. One of the interesting things and I'm keeping an eye on over the second. Half of the season is their style. You guys remember how they played a year ago with David Yeager UPTEMPO Urine Fox was killing an open court and transition this year. They're one of the slowest pace teams in the league. I just think with Fox Luke. Walton is now need to find a way to play that style again defined guys who can run even shipping out role players who don't fit because as you know we've talked about that that's Garin Fox's advantage in transition. He's not a great half court player at this stage in his career. He's phenomenal on the open court. So I think that's been kind of push pull in Sacramento. But my guess is they. I don't think the fully sell. I don't think they'll they'll take a step back. They've been waiting too long and their their hopes are too high coming into this season in Sacramento. I think they'll either hold. Or maybe try to incrementally improve their team again. Given the the week playoff bubble in the western conference and then I guess we could include the Pelicans like there's a lot that they can do. I mean they seem to be probably sellers to get you out on that front. He actually. That's not what I'm hearing. I'm hearing they're not sellers facts. I think they may be buyers. You know keep keep an eye on potentially a backup big backup center or something like that for New Orleans. And here's why again there you know. Underperforming relative to the preseason expectations design Williamson hasn't played any games. Scowl could tell us better than the two of US already. Yeah but scout looks like he's getting closer watching Zion warm up and the people I've talked to around lie on it. Looks like he may be back in lineup. Sooner rather than later yeah like I watched them play. It wasn't it wasn't fifty percent. He was going pretty hard and scrimmaging right but still going against coaches. which is the stuff like that? But I like their team man. I like Jackson as a lot. I mean he didn't play any defense at all but he shot blocker but not like a position defender but they got a good team. I think my opinion is they should try to sell and try to develop these young guy and they think they need another dynamic wing because ultimately they have to timelines going on right now and I don't know how that works. You should explain that to me. I always felt like you had to be on the same page if you don't have like free dynamic players but if you have a bunch of good players don't you ought to be on the same time line and it seems like they're time line is on the younger side. Yeah I think the challenges scale they had number-one pick in the draft with the guy as we think as a chance to be a generational talent and he hasn't played a game yet and now the record is not very good. Although a lot of that was due to a poor start they played better lately. One of the things. They'll tell you in New Orleans when you talk to folks. The PELICANS is look at our numbers with Derrick favors in the lineup and when he was on the court actually not a bad team. You know as you mentioned. Starting in nineteen year old Jackson. Hayes is very talented but makes a lot of mistakes as a developmental player and so I think they want to see how the team looks with. Zion it'll be a tough challenge in for David Griffin and Trajan Langdon in the front office. If it doesn't come back you know before the deadline they're gonNA have to make a call on guys like Jj rettig and Derrick favors but again my guess this is that they would look to add the team. They have a boatload of picks from from the deal with La for Anthony Davis. They have a ton of young players as well. So it may seem counterintuitive. Would've given the record but keeping an eye on them incrementally adding. They're only four games out of the playoffs and the guy who was the number one pick in the draft hasn't played so I think they either holder colder add rather than fully. Break it down and have a fire sale. They need the top five if ever going to be a championship team. Their team is not good enough. They need another because if Lonzo ball was scoring point guard. It'd be totally different. But the way he plays if you act like dynamic wing that could shoo man you're talking about Lonzo. Lonzo gets the ball to people quickly. I mean I've seen the other night five times. He caught the ball and kick it up to floor. Whether it be a lob passer asser across court pass without even taking dribble and. There's not a lot of point guards doing that nowadays I would. They need another scoring wing if they're going to be the into conversation. Iran I know you gotTA bounce enjoy Minnesota. Make sure you bring your box fan. We'll talk to you when you get back Friday all right I appreciate appreciate it guys. I give you my best from Scallon Pals and especially from Park please please do. I'm sure I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms there. Wow all right right so You know that's a good stuff like I feel like you know. There are so many teams. I think I want to ask you this when we get back from the break. I got an interesting question. Actually that I want to ask you about the Pelicans in Zion's return plus I gotta ask you. When is it time to start worrying about the clippers seven and six in their last thirteen? They don't look great. There's locker room issue. So let's do that in a little bit. That's GONNA come up after the break. He's Brian Scott received. Stick around here on radio DOT com the radio DOT COM APP. Are we backyard. Scalp House. Radio DOT COM the radio DOT COM APP cerruti alongside the White Mama Brian Scallop Gallini. And I want to get to the clippers second scowl. We'll get to our best bath as we always do to close out the show but something that I was thinking of as it pertains to Ryan mcdonagh who just had on and the Pelicans skins who you know by the way we talk about them being at the horrible starts at the head of the season but they're they're only four and a half games out of the playoffs by which is a good about there. There are a lot of teams that they would have to jump actually just four games out of the playoffs in the out of that east out in the western conference. What would what would happen like tell me what this scenario imagine of Zion comes comes back scowl and now must lights the world on fire but he like comes back? Looks really good. Leaves the Pelicans to a bunch of wins they get back into this thing. Say They even get the eighth eight seed in the in the western conference and it's on the backs of Zion looking good do you think. Do you think that would be rookie of the year worthy. Could he win the rookie of the year. If that happens yeah he was dealer Jamarat if if he gets into the playoffs because he'd be passing so it was like a story book ending to that. So yeah I would think think that would be enough see. We're like halfway through the season. So he played half a game. It would be controversial. But if he's averaging twenty three points in eight board that six assists or something like that. Yeah so but I don't think that's going to happen like the spurs like. I got a chance to see them live live. I haven't seen Memphis yet but I got a chance to see San Antonio. They're much better team the Memphis they have much better players. Get after it defensively. They physical wings. There's just move better but I mean if it's rookie of the year worthy for sure I kind of want I mean I kind of want to make it interesting right. That's one of the cool things about this team in wild like you know you're kind of you're killing him last week for saying. Hey can we win some games versus where we you know. We we give all this love to brand ingram. I just. It'd be like we need to see them with Zion. We need to see them with the guy that everyone as as the the prince who was promised us. A game of thrones analogize. We need sort of that dynamic to be able to judge Obama. I think once he comes back he opens up doors for them. And I think it's going to make life easier for all those other young guys. I'm not saying he's GONNA I don't know if he's GonNa Twenty three game. I don't know probably not. I think it's GonNa take him time to adjust. I'm just going to certainly be on minutes and game limits. I imagine he's not gonNA play any back to back. They're going to be careful with him but it would be fun to see if he comes back in the Pelicans make Kinda interesting but the problem ms they gotta jump one two three four five six teams to make the playoffs. So they're not that far back right. Yeah do you. He did you watch Jason. TATUM dropped a career. High in three quarters on your boy your boy after. Yeah that's all folks assist hall folks this. This team's really good Lakers got screwed in the deal by Jason. TATUM was like like the way that the effort I give the job down. The street gave Brandon Ingram career high in three quarters doing work like that and just did whatever he wanted. Whenever tatum Adam is good for his like he's Jordan or anything like that like he's good but to give Rennie Grimm a career high now Brag Renan Ingram held his own offensively actively? But I can't believe people even compare the two players. Tatum is a much better. Defensive Player has a nice president about him. Defensively Brandon Ingram There's no presence there on the he'd long but you can get whatever you want anytime you want. I agree I think a lot of ways and we talked about this last week because I was calling out. Tatum hate him for saying like he's had a lot of five eighteen. He had a one for nineteen. I think this year three for fourteen. But he's had a lot of bad shooting nights but I actually think like he's a little bit overrated on the offensive end like we see what he's capable of. But I think he's been sort of below par this year but he's underrated defensive player. I'll give you that. He is he is. He is so much more of a defensive player than branding branding score. or He's a piece of score period. He's very skinny. I don't think it has. Has the body really be a great defensive player and I always have questions about. Gaza put up big numbers on bad teams. So what you're right. The jury is still out on on on on a guy like Ingram. Even though I think you have to be pumped with what you've seen if you're if you're if you're a Pelicans fan or you're in that Pelicans Front office the Hall of you got back for Anthony. Davis looks like you. You may potentially actually have a bona fide score a guy that could light up night in night out but I I don't know if he can be the Best Player I think Zion still has to be the best player on the team for them to really be a good team. Going forward right. Yeah and that's why I told you. I think that they should be bad. I think they shouldn't get your picks and they got a dynamic wing like to me. Ingram is good good but he's not good enough. I don't know if you've got a top five. Pick or top seven pick. I don't know if one of those guys is good enough or not and I don't study study college like that and I don't really start picking up until it gets closer to tournament into draft right but Ingram is not that Guy Ingram is not the guy that you're you're like Ingram Leonard. I like my chances. No no no no no. They need another guy. They need a dynamic wing if they're ever going to be in conversation and they're far far far from the conversation and that's including being the best version of himself. Well speaking of the teams that I mean the teams that may maybe has two the most dynamic wings in the league. That's the clippers skull. When when do we when do we start to like maybe get a little bit worried about them because seven and six in the last thirteen I know and and the issue is like I know what they are when they're together? I feel like I said this a couple of weeks ago. I think if it wasn't for the two record against the Lakers like that is masking. I think a lot of our concerns because you go when they play when they have to turn it on. Turn it on and I don't have any questions about quiet Leonard. I know what he did last year. He knows how to flip the switch. But it's a combination of things for me. It's it's seven six. It's we'll probably never going to see. See them at their full potential in the regular season. Are they going to be able to hit on full cylinders coming to the playoffs and you throw in the mantras herald locker problems stuff. Like I don't know I just think I I think I I think there's reason to maybe think that they're that they might not live up to their potential this year. I'm not GONNA say that. They have no. The Lakers are a superior team because obviously there. Yeah no but I just think when is it okay for me to be like. I have some questions about this team. Do you have questions about the clipper team. I don't I think did I do okay. I think they play hard when they have to play hard. I think the a the the message coming across is that they don't care about the regular season 'cause quieter than care. Paul George Akara whatever. They're about to play off. So how you GONNA ask guys to go to war night in and night out we have other guys taking time up but do I think that that's going to be an issue. Moving forward it was an issue in Toronto at the start. It wasn't an issue at the end when a win quite Leonard. was doing this thing in the playoffs. Royer offs even their seven six record unless they've lost his Chicago. They've lost to Memphis and listen. That's the best. Not a terrible awesome episodes playing a lot better recently but they eat by the Knicks. They eat by the warriors. They're just I don't know there's something that seems to be missing about them. Scout maybe it is just that like they don't care and that's fine and I A- and maybe I'm maybe I'm GonNa look like an idiot complex time and they're going to be world leaders and they're going to do their thing it'll be over. I just I don't know I. I just feel like that to Lakers record if they weren't to know Oh people would be like Are they all they're cracked Kendrick Perkins where we're going to have on. I think tomorrow he's going out there on twitter and he's saying hey. They need to add a big they need. They need another center besides mantras. Charles Zubec- isn't doing it. They need an anchor of their defense to bring in to really be to feel better about themselves going into the playoffs. Is that something you would buy into as well. Maybe maybe rumor. They've been rumored for guys like Aaron Baynes. They've been ruined for some guys some senators. I would take Baynton when people say that. I don't know what you have to give up. I mean I'd give a picture but I don't know do they have any pixel like I don't know their situation like do they. Have I feel like I like Oklahoma City has all their picks right. Yeah I guess I would say yeah. If you can add a guy like Baynes I would do it. There's not a lot of big you're going to be able to add that like if a Cancer was available even much better than I thought he was going to be He. He's a rebounding machine. I could see that being help but to beat the the Lakers. I don't think that you need another center. I don't I personal opinion it. That's not what you need to beat the Lakers. I think you've got to be healthy. And you had to play a hard with your your core group of guys in probably Lou Williams is going to have to be somewhat spectacular during that series. Because I know quite Leonard is going to be good. I know Paul George Lou. Williams can't be like an eleven point a game score in that series. I feel like that's the difference. Maker mantras Herald Lou Williams. Those guys are the x factor factor. And I've already. I've already assumed that. Paul George and quiet Leonard are going to be good. I'm assuming Anthony Davis is GONNA be good. Lebron will be good to great great. How great he is determine? Who Wins that series? But all this mundane regular season stop at right now. I'm not really buying all that speaking of mundane regular season stuff scall- The books are literally right at the halfway point. They are forty one games into the season and they are perfectly on pace. Ace there thirty five and six perfectly pace to win seventy games this year. Do you think it happens. Like do you think that they can do it. They would only be thirteen in the history of the League. It would be the ninety five ninety six bowls and obviously the fifteen sixteen warriors team. That didn't end up winning the title We know that they're built to dominate the regular season. One of my favorite staff is the one that we said. The other week was that they currently have the top three three Field goal percentage like basically rim-protector at the rim whether it's it's both Lopez brothers and Janas like they are built to just murder teams in the regular season. Do you think that they get to seventy do you think did they care about getting the seventy two. I think that their culture is to destroy teams. James and I like I like Janas version of load management sitting out fourth quarters. You know when when they blow people out I like that about the buck. So but it's it's hard van seventies hard. It's hard to get there and a good location for it. I tell you what when I was in Chicago. I thought the travel schedule was so nice. I felt like I was close to L. L. City versus being in Boston or even in New Jersey. When I was there I just felt like in Chicago? Like obviously you know Milwaukee's same location and so I've always felt like the mid West was the perfect place to do that really more even more impressive way that the warriors did it because man. That's not easy. It was a a Lotta long flights when you're the Golden State Warriors so not sure if they will or won't but I do think that they are the best regular season team by far and you honest into best regular season player by far in the NBA. I don't I I'm not going to get to see him this weekend because I'm not we don't we don't have the national game but they got the Celtics on Thursday. I have a feeling they're going to destroy them on that day. So I mean I just think they're just such a good team play so hard. They got the perfect superstar for the regular season. But seventy the lot math. A lot of wins was an interesting quote too because a lot of people on twitter like over the weekend. We're pointing out that back tactic. The Lakers go in and beat a playoff team. They beat an okay see team without Lebron without ad. Without Danny Green. Meanwhile the meanwhile the Clippers can't beat the nuggets without Paul George and they're saying like Oh the you you know this is this. Is that the DNA Lakers team. They care about it more like I'm not sure I'd go that far but I do think that is kind of telling that like this. And I think it was jared Dudley that had this quote saying like we have a bunch. Did you guys on this team. That are all really motivated. That are motivated to to accomplish new things whether it's Lebron wanting to prove that he can win a title in L. A. and that he still the best player in the League. It's Anthony Davis wants to prove that he you know he can win a title and that he is an MVP candidate one of the top five players in league whether it's Kyle Kuzma proving that he can be the third wheel on a championship team. Whether it's Oh Dwight Howard Redemption Storage Vail McKee doing that Danny Green proving. He can do something that is all the rage like they have a lot of guys on their team. That have a lot to prove right now and and I think it is driving. This Lakers team to be a really good regular season team to prove a lot of doubters. Wrong I'm not saying that'll carry any weight. Come the postseason. I think at the it's going to be whoever the better better team is gonNA way between them and the clippers but I do think the Lakers are really motivated regular season team and you can clearly tell the clippers. Just don't have any motivation for the regular season. But I also think that like the clippers are more guard to what makes it clippers. Good hard nose. blue-collar taught defensive team. Okay if you drop like let's say you let go the row five percent that is your identity you moose. That what makes the Lakers good. They got Lebron like if you the lake like the broncos coast at eighty percent dominate the NBA damage to dominate the clippers when eighty percent he can dominate. Everybody else us out there when he's so smart and he knows how to like your identities are very different. Now even though the Lakers do get after it. Defensively like the clippers for them to be successful at the plate so hard and they have hard playing guys. It's hard to do that for eighty two if you don't have like Lebron on your T.. CMEC and make everyone around you better. So it's very it's a different dynamic. My only thing with the clippers and why I'm high on them because like their best is designed to beat the Lakers. That's what that's how the clippers are fabricated that is their DNA. DNA is not the beat the Denver Nuggets. It's not to be to play tough against Chicago. Bulls some middle of January game when Chicago beat the team over five hundred a whole season until they beat the clippers like that's not their DNA their DNA is. Get up for the Lakers Lebron. That's their DNA. So tell someone proves CBS me differently. Like I could see it like. They've got problems when they go against them. I that's how I look at the clippers designed to beat the Lakers designed designed to be the best team in La not designed to be a regular season good team. I think that's one of the cool things about all of the landscape now post warriors right is that you've got we we. The playoffs are completely uppercut. Now might not be as many teams as we thought like we are coming into season. Eight teams go into title not enough. It's not a it's not even close to its bread's probably barely is probably maybe for for probably three and the question is there's still so many questions about team's going to play offs like I think the Clippers obviously like can they put the switch. I don't think there's you don't have any doubts about that. Some people do have doubts about that are the Lakers. As good as they are the regular season team can they do that in the playoffs. And then it's a buck seen that goes. Hey we've seen this before. Even if they win seventy games it's not GONNA prove to. I don't I think that's GONNA prove to people like you that they can necessarily go out and win a title so so many of these top teams still have something to prove as we head towards the playoffs and I don't think there's anything at the regular season's GonNa tell us guys. Just don't I don't think we're GONNA learn anything because I'd even be Lakers. Guy Back the Lakers saying they're gonNA win a title because of the grenades is the best duo. Even though they've had this great start and they sit five games up on anybody else in the western conference. I I don't think that means anything. Come playoff time. I don't think that necessarily proves my point that they're gonNa win the title so I don't think there's there's almost nothing the regular season is gonNA prove to any of us about what we're going to see in the in the postseason. I think that's a really cool thing heading into the playoffs. Yeah no question. Let's do our best best. Wrap this thing up and I do agree. Like if we're going to evaluate clippers and Lakers offers or even bucks. None of this stuff. That matters season is nice that they're doing it or whatever but it's all about what they do in the playoffs. I totally agree. Let's do this. Let's do our best. By the way scouring over to Friday the magic they screwed you over it was it was totally on the right there but we get it off and I also missed. I picked the hawks which was a stupid pick up getting up losing to the wizard so we are currently five hundred on the season. We're hanging on. We're we gotta get over the Hump here. We gotta we. We haven't had a two and a while. We haven't had week where we both win in a while. We've had a lot of one in one. We had no one to. So let's let's start the week off right. We got seven games tonight. I'll read them all off to you here. We got the the Pelicans they are in Detroit and Pelicans are actually two point. Underdogs in Detroit. You've got the Philadelphia Seventy sixers two hundred dollars Indiana tonight you got the Chicago Bulls Ten ten point underdogs against your celtics tonight. The thunder are three and a half point favorites in Minnesota Indiana. I'm done I'm taking the you're taking Indiana which is okay. So you're taking your saying they win by at least two point six or so. You're down on the sixers here. That's interesting we'll talk about that game more tomorrow and beat is out and beat his NBA out for a while out for a while. Let me read the rest of that figure. I still go sideways right. Yeah exactly he ain't coming back for a while. So Ben Simmons Muscles if you're boy can shine a couple more games. The Hornets are getting nine. And a half points in Portland tonight. My magic getting a point and a half against the kings and the cavaliers fourteen point underdogs. elway at the Lakers tonight. I'm actually going to take the PELICANS getting two points in In Detroit I don't I don't think there's teams that good. I think Pelicans a point better as of recently game humidity points with the Pelicans even though they're on the road so those who are picks will try to get about five hundred. I'm feeling good really good. Good so stick around mixer by the way if you missed any show including a good Good visit with our Guy Ryan mcdonagh. We're going through a bunch of the teams in the middle of the road trying to figure out whether there should be buyers the sellers the trade deadline's lines under a month away. Make sure you check out the podcast. Wherever you find podcast? We'll be talking to the man. The myth the legend himself Kendrick Perkins. We'll have to see if he's cooled down about the Katie stuff. Thanks to him for joining us on Friday. Okay we'll see we'll see we'll get an update on how the beep between he and Katie is so that's coming up tomorrow. Scalp joy the game tonight and until that talk you then have a good night. See you later. Thus

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#459 - Black Atheist Trump Voter Returns vs. David Smalley

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#459 - Black Atheist Trump Voter Returns vs. David Smalley

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Everybody knows who Ken Shamrock is. If you've ever followed any fights and He was supposed to be on the show last night. We had to reschedule. He's coming on next week. And he I was debating on whether or not to play that cheesy ass applause. I was like when when I introduced Ken Shamrock. Should I still do the applause? Like I'm embarrassed by it. I don't know but you love it. So yeah the only reason I do the show Dave sometimes I think I think about just introducing him without applause and then adding later. Because I know he's not GonNa go back and listen to the show. He just did so. I don't know I'm struggling with that. So when you hear the apply just would understand how uncomfortable I am that. Have you been pretty good spin another crazy week? Living under quarantine but I don't know every day I feel like I'm getting a deeper understanding of what it is that we're going through as a society as a culture as a planet trying to get my head around where we're going and we're GONNA end up on the other side since the struggle every day. It seems like a moving picture where you're trying to jump on a moving train like but at no this week has been a weird one. I'm GonNa feel like everyone of our conversations is a podcast and I think we should. We should probably just exclusively talk on skype and record everything that happens because every time we get on a private phone call we end up either hashing out some major issue going on or usually me learn something that we didn't understand what's happening in the world and We both have I think good insight to and sometimes we even slightly disagree until we get to the bottom of something. It's it's invigorating and I think we should probably just record more. Conversations may be for patrons or something And every time I talk to you I'm like oh. We shouldn't be doing this right now. We should be we. We should be on microphones this this could help people So it happened even earlier today. We start accidentally getting into the stuff. We wanted to talk about today so before it just naturally happens. Let me bring on our guest. So that he can be a part of the conversation and we can start Start our conversion process here because we have a guy to convert today. Join me in welcoming back to the show Javier. Havi air somebody who was twice. Have you been man holding up door my best? So we have a lot to get into some political stuff. I do want to get into your backstory as well And that's originally reached back out and you were like. Hey let's talk about you. Know the my other major issue in the stuff that I've been through my past and I was like yeah. Let's do that but it's hard in this in this day and time when all this political stuff is going on to not address that that to me is just the giant elephant in the room anytime talking to somebody who leans conservative. Especially someone like you who leans conservative for reasons. None of US UNDERSTAND. Havi air what what blows me away mostly about you. Man is the last time you first of all your atheist. So there's not even a a religious debate to be had here or and and then when Michael and I had you on the show last time we took you through the iside with quiz and you were just as liberal as US. Mostly now some of his stat. I don't trust that test will will I feel like strap in everybody because I after I did. My you know thirty two minute monologue on on how. I'm voting and if you haven't heard that go back and listen to that and the rest of the show make much more sense then. Michael came on and we did a deeper dive of the whole Joe Biden Donald Trump Ernie sanders thing. And you. Now you've listened to both of those. Yes fast okay so I I am completely convinced that this moment you listen to that show. You listened to my monologue. You listened to Mike when I break it down. You must absolutely be ready to vote. Blue in November Actually I took notes because I felt like it was something that needed to be touched on your last conversation. Luther Oh yes we could bring out a notes that we go through this and Hash it out like we always do some taking that as you're still at this moment considering yourself a supporter of Donald Trump and you plan on voting for Donald Trump in this election. Well I don't consider myself a trump supporter actresses myself a person who's going to vote for trump. So you're on the orange team definitely. I'm on the Ra's the Ray. Whenever between the whole I lean having read a lot of Heavier posts recently watched his videos. I will say that. He's ideologically very conservative that he does defend those positions from a conservative point of view. And I understand where he's coming from. Just I think what blows our mind how. Vr Is that as somebody who is ideologically conservative and smart and an atheist and coming at it from a skeptical point of view that you don't see the obvious huge problems with continuing with the trump administration. Well would you say that it said that all people who are not smart and intelligent will support? Trump is just is not necessarily true. So there's this bill in discussion as far as left versus right going on in the country right now and drama conservative perspective. It seems the way that argument is being framed from the left is defend trump Trunk is never framed in a in a way of hey. We're on the less what we're offering you in return so that you won't go for trump is always about Orangemen Therefore for us is never. Hey y'all got some issues going on over there. So how about we offer you something to get you on our side all right so hold on so I I I totally disagree and I feel like there's a lot of that going on but when you say there's nothing else I just have to point you back to the monologue which I have my notes from the monologue that I gave. I did talk a lot about the problems. Donald trump but remember when I went into the end by the way. There's a thing going around facebook the you probably haven't seen if you're not in the sort of liberal algorithms. How facebook works it kind of keeps you apprised of you already like there's There's a whole thing going on about it and I've taken some from that but I I create some stuff on my own as well. I talked about the that. You're voting for our country to start healing. That's something that liberals are offering healy. We're talking about having a more grownup reputation in the world. We're talking about leaning entrusting our government scientists in the CDC not fighting against the scientists. That's what liberals are offering. We're offering more sane person in control of the president's twitter account right. We're voting were voting for federal judges to be appointed that have credentials instead of being buddies with trumped. You know on a golf course somewhere. We're talking about Supreme Court justices so there are so many things that I listed at the near the end of that monologue that was precisely what liberals are offering. That's better than Donald Trump is. I think you're offering liberal solutions. Because I don't think anybody WANNA conservatives. I want the same things as far as what the candidate. Joe Biden is offering. And I don't think you want what Joe Biden is offering either. You're just basically stuck in a rock and a hard place and you're forced to vote blue. You didn't want this. You did not want Joe Biden President. No that's true. That's true but I'll tell you but I'm not I'm not stuck between a rock and a hard place I'm stuck between I don't like the way and people can go. Listen to the episode that I did but I don't like the way Bernie. Sanders was treated. I think Bernie. Sanders is a more compassionate human being and at the end of the day I feel like Bernie is the guy that would make the best decision when no one's looking you line them up against Biden against trump against Ted Cruz against anybody. He's GonNa make the best decision when nobody's looking. I think he has a best conscience and the most compassion for humanity. I think Donald Trump is on the other end of that spectrum. Though heavier the he is the worst human being ever had. And if that dog's GonNa Keep Barking. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA BE Anti Animal. Whose is that on your side at McDonald's not barking? It's Michael I Paul II muted at. Just then I'll go into another room mostly if I I'm gonNA close that window again. Oh it's outside. She's Yeah I would say that Dow owned bark hold on hold on hold on hold on Michael. You create and work for me. I gotTa make notes now and do edits shit. Sorry but I close the window. It seems to taking care of the problem. This is not going to super Adultress all right. Let me get back on what I was saying. So what? I'm what I'm getting at here is. I do want you to be president. He wasn't my first choice. Okay but it's I. I mean not even my second he he probably would have been number four or five for me to be honest with you but he is leaning more toward opening healthcare to more people. Donald trump is doing the opposite. He's proactively trying to kick seven hundred thousand people off of social programs. I think that's bad for the country. I think that's bad because we are better when more people are healthy overall. I'm I'm in a better position when my neighbors are healthier And I'm in favor of those social programs that Joe Biden supports. I am in favour of our next Supreme Court justices. Who is going to be chosen by the next president to be more inclined to allow women to make decisions about their bodies. I'm in favor of dreamers. Being able to stay here and gained citizenship and gain all of the proper credentials and documents that they need as a citizen. No I am not in favor of taking someone who has literally never been to Mexico in their lives and throwing them across the border and saying go home. This is their home. Biden understands that this is their home. Donald Trump wants to send them over the border because they weren't legally registered. I disagree with trump on several things. Joe Biden is offering something that I want president and mostly. That's getting rid of trump's terrible policies and I think most conservatives what I'M NOT GONNA say Conservatives but I will say most people who vote for trump fill like trump is delivered on the promises that he made. Now we get into the into. The week is about whether or not he delivered. But let's not forget that this is an ideological in no is that we we have right here now a lot of stuff that you just listed. I only see coming from a liberal perspective. I don't see a conservative saying well. I want a woman to be able to have an abortion. I don't think that's a conservative desire or value because most conservatives consider that to be murder if I must say so myself and I don't see how that's offering anything to conservatives. Here's the different about the Second Amendment Woolen. The different through the difference I don't think anybody liberal conservative. Whatever likes the idea of abortion the okay. You can believe it's murder you can think it's terrible you can say it's a bad idea you can. You can open services and offer counseling services to women. Who are considering abortion. He could try to talk them out of it. You have the freedom of speech to do all of those things but when we had you on the show last time you said I disagree with it and then Michael pushed back and said okay. You're it's fine disagree with it. We all have our limits to what we would be comfortable with. But are you okay with mandating a federal law? That makes it murder because they're because then a woman's womb becomes a crime scene if she has a miscarriage too. It's a homicide investigation if she has a miscarriage and you said of course not. I do not want to make it a law. That is what separates us here You are on our side when it comes to that. Donald Trump has stated that he thinks women should go to prison for having an abortion. If you'RE DONALD TRUMP DONALD TRUMP will not get that done. Let's be realistic. Just like Bernie Sanders. What the won the nomination and became president. We all know that there are certain things that he would have not been able to get done. What would that be said? The reason that I'm not for the government banning abortion. It may be for some of the reasons why you're not for because I just think it's bad policy. I think it will end horribly and also I don't want to government in our lives Razz. I think you might want to government in our lives just not in that area you may want the government to run healthcare or you may want the government to put more tighter restrictions on gun laws so our reasons for not wanting to government to ban abortions are two separate reasons like. I don't believe that abortion is controlling the woman's body. I think it's protecting the body. That's within her body that's Kind of a religious argument there though I mean I mean heavier abortion and gun rights Aside I mean gun rights. I always have to kind of laugh when conservatives talk about gun rights because the Democrats are pathetic if it comes to gun control I mean they they. They don't want anything they they get on. Tv holding their assault rifles in their guns. And they'd talk about the second. I think you mean Republican using. They don't have money balls. Michael You said Democrats. I think he meant Republicans. No Democrats are are not great with gun laws and the no. No one is proposing taking away anyone's guns when the Republicans and Conservative based talk about the Second Amendment. They are talking about a phantom threat that doesn't exist when they say they're coming for our guns. They WanNa take our guns away they wanna take my rights away. I I don't know what they're talking about. What laws are they even talking about? I mean well I'm I'm old enough to remember. Beta auroras explicitly standing onstage saying Hail Year. We're going to take your ar. Fifteen hell yeah. We're GONNA take your assault weapons. I literally a day off. And he didn't get the nomination he got he we. We took care of him pretty quickly. Let me just tell you this. Joe Biden goes further than I'm comfortable with on the gun situation because he wants to make it possible to sue the gun manufacturers if there is a merger with that weapon Bernie was against that. And I'm with Bernie on that. I think that is. I think that is absurd. So I don't agree with Biden completely on guns But even Biden his toughest. He is with the whole being able to sue a manufacturer of a company to do it He still not saying he wants to take people's guns away well. I don't think any smart politician will unfold the whole plan. I think it's a less warm-up you know it's like don't give me naked and don't have sex with me. Basically is why I thought were the Bra Thursday. I thought with the pennies is leading somewhere. And we've seen this throughout the last. What sixty eighty years of just politics leading from one thing to the next now? What we've seen is right. Wingers losing their minds and making up these slippery slope arguments for the last sixty years. I can play you a speech from Ronald Reagan talking about the end of freedom because of social security so like well our grandchildren. It'll look back and say this was the day of America died because of social security payments to old people. It's the beginning of the end. It's the nanny state I mean how. How do you not think there should be some basic background check in license required to carry a deadly weapon? There is there's already background checks in place. When I go to buy a gun I have to do a background. Not if you go to a gun show by then. That's something that needs to be fit. Hold on on hold on what does it mean year. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Man We are on the exact same pager that needs to be fixed. I think that needs to be fixed. You think that needs to be you know what. Republicans call that gun control restricting my rights we ju- Ninety three percent. Nine thousand three percent of gun owners believe there should be more more restrictions and background checks. That's it and that the gun. Ho loopholes should be closed. I don't know I've never talked to a single person who thinks the gun hole. Loophole is a good idea. They all understand that it's terrible but when when the liberals go will then. Here's a bill. That would require that to happen. Knots and stop people from selling guns at gun shows that they call it gun control and say they're trying to take and then it's a big. It's a huge deal again. If we go down the rabbit hole in many of these issues you actually agree with us. And that's what's so perplexing Michael and is when we when we push the envelope of abortion you go. I hate it. I'm against it but I don't WanNa make it a law. That's crossing the line and when we talk about guns you're like yeah that that needs to be fixed. Well they don't they don't come out and say that the gun hole loophole needs to be fixed the Republicans call that gun control and they fight against it. So you agree with us on these issues. But by voting for trump you're voting against your own interests. Well technically I mean the argument that I hear 'cause I even the NRA is for closing the gun. Show Loophole No. They're not that's the argument from trump conservative. That I know the argument is I just sat here and said that NATO said he was GonNa take a are fifteen and he was going to do these things you said. Bagel did make it into the race here. We got Joe Biden who is not a nomination for president sitting down at a table with battle. Rorick say that this is going to be the guy that helps me with goes. So what are we supposed to expect? You don't think these guys aren't a hoops. Maybe battled to set the quiet part out. Yup Maybe I have to point out though that it's not even so much we found out after Sandy Hook that it's actually it's not you the conservative voter. That's driving the Republicans because after Sandy Hook Eighty seven percent of Americans and over fifty percent of Republicans were in favor of a federal background. Check but the gun manufacturer lobby. The multibillion dollar weapons manufacturer lobby was against it and they couldn't pass it because of that. They had eighty seven percent support national. That is an unheard of number of support behind a bill over fifty percent of Republicans over fifty percent of registered. Nra members were for it and they still couldn't pass it because the bosses of both parties. I'm willing to admit this every time said no dice because it hurts the bottom line. They make a lot of money selling guns to anyone that wants one in federal background checks and other registrations and gun Gun Hole Loophole. This makes them billions of dollars. And that's what really speaks. And that's the power in this country which gets to the root of the real evil but if you WANNA stay with Second Amendment they all represent you. They don't represent you. They represent the gun manufacturers the weapons manufacturers and we can prove that because you and your people like you were in support of federal background checks after Sandy Hook while. I'm not under the impression that I wanNA federal registration for guns like I don't want the federal government knowing who has gone where the guys are. Hell believe it happened after that because it makes it that much more easier to do. A gun back Buy Buyback Program to take our future because they know who has them well. They not allow cars because they're deadly and dangerous and you have to register it and ensure it until the government who you sold it to and you sell it. You can't just drive around her unregistered car and that's a mode of transportation. That just happens to be dangerous as a as an offshoot of being a mode of transportation this is an actual killing machine designed to kill and in some cases. Kill a lot of people quick and yet you you don't think that that's That we should be aware of who has them and where what they're doing with them and where they're going with them. Do you have a problem with people with registering your car No because my car is not a fundamental right. I don't have the right to drive a car but I do have the right to protect myself. Have the right. So here's the deal urine atheist that means you have already acknowledged that somebody writing something down a long time ago doesn't make it more valid than what we're going through today right you you on being an eighties. That's what you've already accepted because people who don't accept that still hold onto the Bible and say it's more important than everything else going on in Modern Day God's laws more important than our laws and that's a whole fight. We don't even need to get into with you because you already accept that all right so it. We're not talking two thousand years or four thousand years. We're not talking Old Testament New Testament. We're not talking job. We're talking seventeen hundred. Eighteen hundreds still a long time ago. These dudes we're talking about muskets and cannons all right. These are talking about Lucia about militias fighting against government tyranny. Okay I'm not a hundred percent on board with everything our government. Does I think my point is that just because something was written down a long time ago doesn't mean we should put a whole lot of stock into it. I think that intelligent people can acknowledge things have changed and that no matter how many ar fifteen or muskets or even M16's and Bazookas you own if the Marine Corps wants to take your shit they can and you know that if they want to kill you they can you. You are not going. I mean we take like we. We fight big ask countries with billion dollar defense budgets and make them look like kindergarten children. Okay so no matter. How many guns heavier your has no matter? How good of a shot. His wife is with the sniper. The the the government's GonNa take your shit if they want. We have passed the point of being able to fight off our government Successfully but what what we have done. Though heavier we've risen to the point of creating massively deadly weapons that can kill tons of people in a matter of seconds. I don't think that modern day logic should be ruled by old ask books. Anita little time to properly respond. Okay I can jump in on that one because I have a lot of issues with the Second Amendment and for one when you talk about It was set up at a time when we had no standing army. If you read the federalist papers or anything from the founders they were all against the idea of a standing army that's the third amendment is all about they. Nobody ever talks about the third amendment which is result a direct result of the Quartering Act. Which is the third amendment says that the government cannot station soldiers in your house during a time of peace. Now that that very amendment reads very anachronistically. You read it and you're like that's that's weird. I don't even understand that. Which is evidence that it was written in a different time when there is a different mentality. But furthermore the actual phrasing of It reads A well-regulated militia being necessary for this courtesy of a Free State. The reason they added states in was because they needed to protect the slave patrols of the south at the time because they were worried that northerners would use the second amendment to take away the rights of the slave patrols. So that's why they put in the word state but it's talking about militias when there is no standing army. We were the army when there was a time of trouble. The militia would gather in the town square. And they would monitor. And they were that's what Washington's troops would do so everything about it hearkens to a different age and a different time it uses the word arms specifically doesn't say guns it says the right toe and bear arms shall not be infringed wall firms at that kind included not just muskets cannons and any other thing that they had now. The term arms hasn't changed over the last two hundred and fifty years but our understanding or we've decided that the second amendment just means guns when in reality the Second Amendment as it reads you should have a militia we should still be on a militia system and the these militias should have access to nukes and drones. I mean it is a nightmare amendment. It reads like it's just from two hundred and fifty years ago. I always say to right wingers. I'm like dude. I leaving your right to bear arms and as such say repeal the Second Amendment and write a new one that actually gives you a right to guns because the second amendment is so weak that if you keep getting behind of mentally it's going down because the wording is archaic. The notions are are no longer. I in fact the first part of the amendment the part that says a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a Free State. That's technically a qualifier. That makes the second part what it is. Therefore the rights of the people to have in bear arms shown up infringed while the first part doesn't apply any more because we don't need the security of our three state based on a militia regulated militia. We have the army we we now have standing armies in fact the largest standing armies and history of the world so when it comes to the Second Amendment I always get a little bit weird where it just. I don't even know that it says what everyone says. It says it's well your robot onto a lot a lot to respond to. Yeah so I'm under the impression that people on the left made the argument that you can't beat the government and the government is this moti billion dollar machine that can't be beat and if they want your gun they'll take your guns. That's point number one and two the essay but I have the right to die for I. League have the right to try to attempt to protect myself and the second thing that I would say is there are militias all around the world who put up a fight against America. The Taliban Isis you know these are people who actually put up a fight against the government and that's given the fact that the government is holding back but you also have to take out how many people in the government will defect. How many people in the government will decide not to go along to get along? I was not ready for the argument in defense of fighting killing American soldiers. I have to be honest with you. obviously that's you got me a little off guard there so you're saying that you want the right to shoot debt and kill American long. Does men agents. So that's not how phrasing I want to fight this thin myself against anyone rather it be military law enforcement citizen. I want the right to defend myself if put in a position where I must do that and if I die in the process of doing that that's my freedom to try to protect myself. Okay so Ellen to hold on Michael so Michael You kinda jumped in there and added so much to it. He never got a chance to respond to my old text versus modern day thought analogy so I would like him to address that and then I wanna I wanNA talk about that. What you just said heavier but I'll let you responded the old text I Because I the right to defend yourself. I'M GONNA write that down and I'm GONNA. I'm gonNA address that in just a moment but I before we get too far away from it. I WanNa know your thoughts on Having this old text which is obviously outdated still sort of control the narrative of of of the right well though when it comes to controlling the narrative of the right. I mean I'm not I'm not the Ri- on the individual and speak for if exactly what it is that I stand for. We'll hold on. Let me be clear about that. My whole my whole point in this show is to show you Javier that you voting conservative you. Voting for trump is voting against your actual beliefs and interests. That's my whole point and so when I say the Conservatives I say they are saying they don't want to close the gun hole loophole because that's called Gun Control Abbott. You agree with closing the gun. Hole loophole like Michael. And I do Joe Biden can help fix the problem as you said right. That's what we're saying is that Joe Biden is a better vote for your views or Joe Biden is going to take it a whole lot further than I'm willing to go and that's where I draw. A line is voting for one person or a certain party is not board down to a few issues. All these things have to be taken a consideration as a whole and sometimes reach out a bit one issue and say how can you still vote for Donald Trump after he did X Y and Z? Well let's talk about ABC. You know so sure it depends on how you frame the discussion but back to what you were saying. As far as the tax being old Yes the Texan outdated but the difference between the Bible in my opinion versus the Second Amendment is I think the second amendment is a good idea. I think the Bible is a bad idea. It doesn't matter the age of something Shakespeare can still be good. Okay a hundred years from now. Okay but okay. So let's let's let's look at the car example right. What if I were to argue with you and say I don't think I should have to register my cars and let's say this morning there was someone in your neighborhood a six year old kid who got ran over by a car and there were no such thing as license plates so all they said was it was a blue four-door car? What was the? What was the tag? A withstood here. Did Doughnuts on top of this little kids face and then took off. We had plenty of time to look at identifying information. We just knows one male and a blue car with four doors we. We don't know anything else. I think in your mind you'd be like man. There should be some way. It may not be the owner of the cars fault but we should have somebody's door to knock on to start the investigation process. When you agree yes will agree a right. That's all we're saying with registering weapons. It's that's it's that simple man. It's that if if a gun is used in a crime we need to be able to register that look up that serial number see where it was bought who last person to own it the now that dude may say oh. I sold it at a pawnshop. Three years ago. Okay but at least they have a lead they have something they can go on to track that thing down right and if it got sold and the new person had to register it they may be less likely to even commit a crime with it right because then they buy that gun and go. I'M SMART I'll scratch the serial number off and then use it. There may be other identifying information that can lead that back to them so they may be less likely to commit crimes with guns. So what's preventative and it's also about registering that information. And now now instead of a car the kid didn't get ran over their kid got shot and the gun is laying right there and it has a serial number on it but because of the people you vote for the Conservatives that you keep an office there might as well be no license plate because we can't track that gun to anybody so we have no door to knock on. We just want a door to knock on less. Just register the weapons. Nothing in that constitution. Nothing in that. Second Amendment says that the government can't make you register those weapons. You have the right to bear arms. We have a right to know who the hell you are and what you have. Wouldn't you WANNA know if your neighbor had seven? M16's Ar fifteen thousand bazookas. Wouldn't it be information that you would like to know because somebody stockpiling Shit like that? We've seen that story. We've seen that show right. It's good information to have. It's good information has always saying well. Let me let me push back a little bit. I think that there's a process when God's are made like serial numbers Hula so to where they ship that the bullets that you use our red are some way with some kind of serial markings there is so much that goes into making a gun into the final product of reaching. Somebody hands that they already have numerous ways of tracking down weapon. Oh without any laws on the book that said that you had to register federally But also I agree with you for the simple fact that I look out. The car analogy that used. I think you can regulate The car industry to make sure that is the case. I'm not against regulation of the Gun Industry. But there's a line that needs to be drawn at thank gun. People who are for the Second Amendment wants to make a clear definition of. Where do we draw the line? And I don't think the left's draws the line because majority of the guns that are used during the Commission of a crime a handgun but yet we hear a lot about assault weapons which are not the majority weapons us. So what happens when you banned that and people are still using hanged on to go to a massacre people. Are you willing to draw the line at? Ar Fifteen and no further. I JUST WANNA start the conversation about commonsense gun laws. I think that I see how far I would go personally. I think they should be treated exactly like cars. I think you shouldn't be allowed to buy one unless you're properly trained. I think you shouldn't be allowed to own one unless you register it period. I think you need to come back every few years to prove you're still not not not you know Suffering from some condition that that might make that more dangerous look nobody. I don't think anybody walks up. And buys a gun with the intention of killing their spouse or committing suicide. But the problem is it's so easy to get guns that we just have them all in our houses and then when shit gets bad one night instead of it. Being a bad depressed moment it changes hundreds of lives forever. And that's what I'm wanting to minimum so that surrogate as we're both I think me you and Michael Withdraw all agree that somebody's going to school and shooting up kid or whoever is a horrific thing and we don't want that to happen and my my my mind goes to this analogy. Where so focused on the tool that US but I think most importantly like you said we need to focus on training. We need to focus on education mental health. I thank average people. Don't go into school and kill people. Somebody with mental health problems goes into a school and kill people. I if you took away the gun I can guarantee you. That person will find other means of committing that same crime right. Let me hold on. So if there's a few things there number one hundred percent agree that there's a mental health needs to be taken seriously in this country. I blame Ronald Reagan for that I may be wrong. Michael can correct me. It wasn't Reagan. No you're right okay. So it was Reagan shut down our mental health centers and caused those people to become homeless. De-fund that entire thing and shut those down that again conservative. That's considered socialism. Taking care of people. They had a place to go. They had a place be. They had help And they had food. It was the best situation. He closed them all down. And that's when our homeless population absolutely spiked. Okay so we joke around the this crazy homeless guy. That is sad. It is a terrible condition in our country that mental health people suffering with mental health issues are living on the street. It is disgusting. That's one thing you're right that that mental health is be needs to be addressed. I and by the way that was a part of Bernie's healthcare plan and is going to be a part of Joe Biden's healthcare plan as well. He's adopting a lot of the healthcare. Stuff that Bernie was putting forth to get the Bernie supporters to vote for him so mental health is absolutely a priority on the liberal side. It is not for Donald Trump. Donald trump is not out there. Advocating to expand Medicare to include help people with mental health issues. That's not one of his concerns but you were voting for that instead of voting for the liberal side that will be more supportive of healthcare. Once again I think you're voting against your own interest in your own ideals. The second thing is that person who's mentally ill may want to run in and cause havoc. Let's say for example that they did ban Ar Fifteen. They did ban magazines over ten Ten bullets or whatever like California has okay. You're talking to somebody here. Who has a concealed carry permit for the State of Texas? I I mean it's I think it's expired now but when I was living there. I carried a concealed handgun. Well I had. I had a clip. That had I think I had seventeen in one clip and ten in the other and the whole point behind. This is not to stop all deaths from all guns. You know clearly if I had this some sort of assault rifle with a with a drum connected to it that Ki- that held a hundred rounds. You do realize I can do way more damage with that than if I had a nine millimeter with ten bullets in it right. The other thing is court oak of course so so if I walk into that school I hate even being me. If a guy walks into a school was nine millimeter with ten bullets and shoots ten children. That is awful but at some point after that tenth bullet. He's going to have to drop that clip out. He's GonNa have to reload. The idea. Is that gives us a moment to tackle him. Gives us a moment to stop the threat? It gives us a moment to get to safety to save lives if you let someone have a heavy one hundred drum. Now you're talking about a guy who can go into a school and murder people for hours on end create hostage situations and all this other stuff so saying that yes. Somebody could walk in. I mean I could walk into a local school here in L. A. With a frying pan and knock a few kids. The hell out right. That doesn't mean I'm not GonNa ever heard anybody. It's about minimizing the amount of damage. I can do before somebody else stops me. That's all the liberals are trying to do. Well if you want to minimize the amount of damage the person can do. Do you should really be looking at trucks in eighteen wheelers. Because if I get eighty and I run into a crowd of people at a parade I can do way more damage than a fifteen see. Then there's there's this his clavier Javier. I'll you know what you have a license to. And there's a Vin number on your truck and we can find you. We can find you. We can find the person who owns the truck because everything's registered in has public information on it and it all goes through federal and state database and getting that Iraq. Driver's license takes a lot of regulation. You gotta go through schooling. You have to be tested. You have to prove to a professional that you're competent. You know how to drive a truck before they let you drive a new protector and you protect it by being safe because you know how hard it was to get it and you're an aspirant at still aca still let somebody jump in my truck. That has no training. Crank it up and go do something and we still have and we still have a door to knock on. We have to have a daughter knock on with the gun because it has a serial number. The bullets can be traced no. They're they're not always used to not only slept. The heavier heavier you know. Serial numbers are printed on the outside of guns. Why NOT GET SCRATCH? Your right hold on. Why NOT MAKE LAW? This is the manufacturers need to put the serial number inside the gun. Actually Dave if I could jump in they. There's two technologies that exist that the conservatives have fought all the way and that's micro stamping and smart guns now micro. Stamping is very interesting. Which is that your gun. Leaves a stamp on the shell casing identifying what gun fired the bullet the very simple technology. That's completely worked out. Which is that. Each gun has an individual serial number on it and when it fires a bullet the shell casing gets a marking from that gun and you can identify which gun the Republicans have said no way. I don't understand why that seems like a great idea. Why WOULD YOU WANNA know? The bullets came from the if you fired the gun. And you had a good reason to do it. Who Cares that? We know that you fired the gun. And secondly as the smart gun technology which again Republicans have thought all the way and they say no way which is the same as your smartphone. When he picked up the God unlocks for you. And only you. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with that? Well the first the first thing that you brought up. I don't know much about as far as the snapping the bullet and if somebody's against that I don't know much about the argument but on the surface it doesn't seem like a bad idea. Now the argument for the second one as far as smart guns go is given the circumstance that somebody breaks into your home. Things may tend to malfunction. Or if you put your finger on the wrong location it may not unlock for you. Therefore not working to stop the perpetrator. That's the argument. That I've heard for smart guns. If you make a mistake and don't touch it. Hold it the right way. It won't fire therefore you can lose your life given the chance that you're trying to defend yourself. Okay here's the problem with this what we are right now here. We are three thoughtful insightful. Caring humanists who want to see an into gun violence but protect constitutional rights. This is a debate that should be happening in Congress. This is a debate. That should be happening among reasonable people and instead the Conservatives shut it down completely. They are not willing to have this discussion. Why because if Donald Trump even hints remotely the? Yeah we need to look into this. We need to fix the loophole if he says anything like that he's considered anti gun because of the tribalism that is associated with it and it gets shut down by the right. The liberals are willing to have the conversation. You're having a thoughtful insightful conversation including conceding points. You're right about that. I need more time to think about it and yes. I agree with this but I disagree with that. That's what a healthy discussion is. The Republicans aren't even willing to have the discussion man and every time kids die instead of thinking. This is the moment that maybe we should shut that down. Their fix is more guns. Well if we if that little nine year old had a gun maybe then if his teacher had guns maybe we should arm the principles of every school. It's just it's crazy you don't fight for you. Don't fight fire with higher. I don't think that's crazy because let's put it like this bad guys are going to get guns. There's nothing stopping that I don't care what law people who do these things are already breaking the laws that's are put in place. It people saying if bag ask can get a are fifteen a bad guys can get pistols or whatever the case may be. I WANNA be able to have a a large array of choices. When I'm more comfortable with to protect myself now it may not come in the form of a gun a bag. I may come like I said in the eighteen wheeler crashing through people. I would hope that I got a Ar fifteen in the car. Compa start shooting that Truck and try to stay out. If I'm trained. You know but you. You let answer the question for this. Most crimes are committed with handguns. Most crimes are committed with handguns. Why is the argument mostly about a author teens? Shouldn't you be more focused on the gun? That's used mostly in the commissioner. No because handguns first of all our terrible for their much less effective at killing people and the people who tend to go into movie theaters and schools for the purpose of mass murderer. Tend to use semi-automatic high-power rifles. They're not walking into two schools with handguns for the most part. Usually it's big shotguns. It's it's and I'm not I'm not in favor of banning shotguns. I feel like shotgun is per a shotgun is really perfect for home defence. It's only got about six shells in it. it's big ASS mean big. Buckshot or big bird birdshot. You'RE GONNA get your point across the. Yeah it's easy to is easy to fire. It's I mean it. And if if it splatters and you miss and some pellets go into your kid's room. It's very unlikely to kill them right. I think I think gun I think shotguns are the perfect home defense when people buy handguns for home defence. It might be people in my own family recently. Did that and I was like they thought I was going to be all about it because I had my concealed carry permit. I was like that's a terrible idea. You've never been trained. You've never taken classes. You have no idea The statistics around it and by the way when you buy a handgun you are way more likely to hurt yourself or hurt somebody else in your household or commit suicide with it or die by that weapon then you are to successfully protect yourself from an intruder. Fm Mate whenever for that argument of If you pass a bunch of laws the bad guys are going to get the guns anyway. So the laws only affect the good guys too which I always say exactly so if you pass a bunch of laws to register a gun and all this stuff. The cops pulled over a car and the person doesn't have the registration that's how you determine who's the bad guy from the good guy you pull over a car and you say license registration to the guy goes. I ain't got any will the you know you've got a guy that's already breaking the law there so I don't understand when you say the bad guys are going to get the guns no matter what will yes because the bad guys are going to get the guns no matter what if they don't register it and they don't go through the legal processes that's how the law enforcement will be learned immediately assessed coups bad guy with a gun. They shouldn't have when nobody has to register a gun. Antibody can get a Gun. Willy Nilly through the gun show loophole or whatnot and the COP pulls you over. How does he know the difference between the law abiding citizen? That didn't have to register the gun and the criminal that chose not to register the gun despite the law. Well we have to take an account that the harder the harder you make it to buy a gun or to get a gun. Legally the less people who will buy it owned guns legally and especially for people on the left who supposed to be for people who are on the low spectrum of life that lives in poverty or people who live in bad neighborhoods. You know there are elderly women. They are people who can't afford you know to jump through all the hoops to get a Gun. Legally a basically. You're making almost impossible for people like that in that situation to buy a gun and defend themselves when they live in bad neighborhoods. Where bad guys are carrying weapons like that and so forth and this is something that as a gun owner made me start to realize I needed to get rid of my guns in order to safely store your weapons so that guests or children or someone untrained or unexpected doesn't grab it and accidentally goes off you have to secure it? It needs to be unloaded and it needs to be in a gun safe if your weapons are in a gun safe and unloaded and bad guys quote unquote show up to your house with a Ar. Fifteen's you are still screwed. The only way to truly be prepared is if they call you ahead of time and say I'll be there at five. Pm WITH MY AR FIFTEEN. You better get your fifteen ready. I know that California has a lot of law that I'm not familiar with when it comes to guns but here in Georgia by gun is loaded. My Gun is loaded in a hosted with this in the holster properly. It will not be fired. I've trained with my gun on as The mask this is is the gun out right now. I got it in a reachable place. I've said that much okay. Do you have kids in the house? I don't well unfortunately I don't have any kids. I only have adult am Hawaii. Okay well In the situation and I can go by Texas Laws for sure the laws in Texas if you have a gun in a holster you haven't loaded you. Have it available if a child if a minor is any has the ability to access the gun? Even if it's unloaded okay. An unloaded gun if a child has the ability to access. That weapon is a class B misdemeanor. So you're already breaking the law. So now we're getting down to people who let's say you're trained. You know how to use it but your wife has no idea what's going on. It won't fire in the holster. I Bet I could make it fire in the holster. I Bet I could and I think you know that. So yeah there are safety precautions. But it's not a perfect science. The issue is of your. It comes down to probability comes down to statistics if someone were to kick in your door right this second while you're on my show. They've already got their gun. They knew they were coming. You didn't. The element of surprise is far greater than you have there. They could kick in your door right now. Shoot you or you at gunpoint. Get your gun from you. The element of surprise is way more powerful right. And if you have your gun. It's in the holster. What if your wife is closer to it in your not this this fantasy that I used to have as a gun owner that I was gonna Chuck Norris Roll across the living room grabbed my gun and have a shootout like the rifleman. It's it's not real. It's just not reality man. It's not something that really happens. And by the way if you shoot at those people won't even if you hit them they're likely to just keep shooting back. It's not like one sound of a pop goes off and they run away. That's that that typically doesn't happen either a lot of people get shot with nine millimeters get shot with forty fives and runaway instill. Never get caught. They don't die so these or so but but but you are far more likely to hurt yourself or hurt someone in your home or a child who comes over and that was something. I won't say who but someone in my family. We'd have get togethers at their home a lot. They had a gun and they had it accessible. It was an accessible area. Wouldn't say out but it sure is wasn't in a gun safe and every time there would be little kids over and look at that person ago is you got up the Joe. I forgot because ninety percent of their life was without guests and then a four year old comes over and they don't think about the gun so that type of stuff happens to man and I I just overall I want to be able to have conversations like this. I want my government to be able to have conversations like this. The Democrats liberals are willing to talk about it and the Conservatives in the pockets of the major manufacturers and they will not come to the table to have the discussion and you're voting for the conversation to not happen even though you realize the conversation needs to happen and that's my fundamental problem. I mean after this conversation is to have a long time and I think there's been concessions made I mean. Just look at the bump stocks. That just happened me. There has been progress on gun control. We we've made a significant amount of progress when it comes to restrictions on guns and there are certain things we just can't own off that But to your point earlier as far as being a gone gun owner and being realistic in a situation where you're under pressure when somebody has the element of surprise I know most gun owners. Don't take this as serious as are probably do. The distance is why I trained on the high situations to be prepared not to allow myself to star or do the wrong thing given the circumstance happened arises and I may be unique but lacked. We'll get into my story but I've been in situations fire. I've I've I've done things in the past. I know how I react in certain situations but there is never a moment in time where I'm in my car or in my home where I'm not at least three feet away from a weapon. Deaths ready to be used under a certain situation. And I'm not saying that every person should do this. But if you're going to own a gun you should have to have training and I mean real training. Would you be favorable? Would you be in favor of making that a law? Because I am of course I would be okay with the the the the the people you vote for. They call that gun control and won't even allow us to talk about it. So why are you voting for that? When you were in favor of Rick of mandatory training like I am well that that goes back to my point. Where and not one issue voters. You have to take the whole thank consideration. That's fine that's fine but we we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk a lot heavier between November and this is one issue that we're talking about so I'm just saying for me. There's a whole checklist. I'm not a one issue voter either. I have issues that are more important to me like separation of church and state and things like that and healthcare and all that but this is. This is pretty high up on the list. Wouldn't you say I mean I would love to see a time in which school shootings are drastically lower or don't exist anymore wouldn't you? I mean we do. That's what we that's what we want for the society that we share right so this is one issue. Where the the red sign that you vote for is not lined up with you on it and this is the first issue we've talked about today and I'll make this my last point on the gun issue Company from a black community. A lot of black people don't understand the laws when it comes to gun. They don't understand their rights. A lot of people who are willing to do it legally don't feel they can do it. Legally there's a history of black people not feeling or being told that they can carry arms and the one that do that live in poor neighborhoods. Where there's a lot of crime you know. Mother fears for her life where she's in certain areas. If a man was to rate my mother I ask myself. Should my mother take training and be well-equipped to use a weapon a firearm and not have to jump through hoops and bound in order to receive that weapon if Cisse poor and she doesn't have the funds to pay the fees to go get registered not travel back and forth to the training sessions or whatnot? You know there there are situations and get statistically more people don't know what they're doing with fire on and shouldn't be owning a firearm and I will agree with you that on every single day of the week. If you tell me what you draw a line and liberals are willing to draw the line somewhere did I think we can have a more realistic conversation about gun. Rights okay I wrote an this is for everybody to look up including you. 'cause I'll show you where I draw the line I wrote an article cold. Why gun nuts? Lie I know from experience Google that why gun nuts. Lie David Smalley. You'll find it. I think it's out on Patios Is One of the most popular pieces. I ever put out and that specific that got. I got so much on that but That'll that'll that'll tell you where I where I come from on that I want to shift the conversation. But I want to get Michael's Input here before we as we wrap up I WANNA I WANNA get your final word here Michael before we move onto the next phase of this. I guess the only thing I'll say is the concession. I've made too many right-wingers which is that. I feel about guns the way. I think they should feel about immigration. Which is I understand that. There's three hundred fifty million guns in this country and they're not going anywhere so. I start from a position of there are three hundred. Fifty million. Guns are not going anywhere. Where do we build from here? Where do we go from here because the idea when people say you gotta get rid of the guns that is insanity and that's ludicrous? And I just say that I would ask the same concession when it comes to immigration. We talk about. There's probably thirteen million documented people. Here where do we build from there? Where do we go from there? Let's let's splits. Let's be let's be fair to each other on these two issues by starting from the same position we start with you. There's three hundred fifty million guns in America. They're not going anywhere. We have to build a reasonable position from that point forward and I'd say the same thing back to most of my conservative friends on immigration. Which is okay. The idea of getting rid of Albion documented people. That's ridiculous we can't start from that position. So let's start from reality so only from that point of view decibel. I'm impressing that. If I WANNA gay something I must be willing to sacrifice at least two things to gain. I think what we losing in this country as -bility to everybody can't win all the time there has to be a level of. I'll give this up if you're willing to D.'s. And we have to decide what those things are and how much we value those. You could catch catches all sides and say oh. I'm not moving in a big on that last point we give up our rights all the time willingly right you carry your gun but you said earlier you went to Hawaii. You didn't carry your gun on that plane right so you were willing to give up your right your right to bear arms to get on the plane to go to Hawaii so that vacation was enough to help you give that give that right up. The question is the question. Is How many kids. How many schools? When are we gonNA reach that limit? Were that's even to that trip to Hawaii in. You're willing to say you know what maybe we do. Need a little more restriction on this. That's my issue and the Republicans don't seem to want to budge like adderall. Like in the slide lemonade. Propose this to you I'm willing to go to mental health route and see how significant the impact we can make going that route. And if there's no real impact after we get this mental health issue highlighted and we start tackling the issue that these kids are going through and trying to get help we we may have to salute as what we have to trust off the notes now and I'm willing to push further and we can have this conversation but let me let me say this real quick Yeah last thought but Allah dies. It's okay I'm Gonna I'm GonNa read this with with a short little story. I was watching live. Pd The of the day and this guy had the phone call was a guy with weapons is threatening neighbors and the cops show up and this guy's got this little. It's a little pond in his yard. Okay but it's it's big enough that I mean it would take you if you were to jog around and it might take you a minute or two right. It's not huge. It's not a lake but it's also not a puddle. Okay it's it's it's a pretty good size body of water and he standing on one side of it. He's got a knife in his left hand in a giant machete in the other and he is screaming. He's losing his mind is screaming at these cops. One cop pulls his Taser out and the dude starts walking around the pond to meet the COP with a Taser. You want to pull your book days around Bro. And he's like screaming. You threaten me with teaser. I mean he is clearly not well and cops start going around the other side and they Four or five of them show up some of them have They have the bean bag with a rubber bullet shotguns. They have tasers out and some of them have deadly firearms out. They start chasing this dude. He takes off running. They shoot him in the back of the legs and stuff with Rubber Bullets. He falls down. He drops the machete. They have to wrestle the knife from him there punching him spraining with pepper spray. Finally get him cuffed. They stand him up in the back of his shirt says ban idiots not guns and it just makes you wonder. What does that guy consider an idiot? Who who does he think should not have guns? Because I'm pretty sure. All of US watching include him in that group of People. That shouldn't have guns but at the moment that he bought those guns he was probably doing just fine. It's not about who you are. It's who you may become while like minority report as far like You know people for Crown may commit in the future. I mean I get that people feel powerful with a weapon in their pants but people feel more powerful in a group of people. I mean. That's how you end up with antiques or the Neo Nazis. I get that I get that done empowers people and I don't want people shooting Guinea. I get that we're on the same side when it comes to that as just. There's distrust that I have the. I don't think that the Democrats the ones that you're voting for a whole lot more that you want and I get that feeling from Joe Biden and a mini Democrats that were running like more more power. The government takes they want more power. We just we just want to not kill children at this point but I guess we'll continue the conversation. I I WANNA move into another piece before we move into your story. I WANNA go ahead and tease what I WANNA talk to you about in the Patriot portion. Okay because you weren't prepared for this but I'm going to ask you some some is going to get real well. We're GONNA have some tough questions and I don't want you to respond to it now. It's going to be in the Patriot section. Okay and it's about the confederate monuments Don't say anything yet. But I'm super curious because the Conservatives including Donald trump praise the confederal the the the confederate monuments. They say it's part of our history. They have speeches where they talk about. The loyalty of the confederate soldiers needs to be rewarded and celebrated but these people were terrorists fighting against the federal government for the right to own black people. And so I think they should all be torn down. I think they should. They need to be taken to a museum somewhere. We shouldn't forget about it. But that's like to me driving through Germany and seeing statues of Hitler and Nazis. You put that Shit in a museum. You don't celebrate it on public capitals. I'm curious because when trump got the opportunity to address it he actually praised the monuments and said it was a part of heritage but when the monuments were put up in nineteen nineteen the grand wizard of the KKK is the one that gave the induction speech to welcome the statute. So I'm curious I think you consistently. I'm your views on. Abortion are closer to mind and they are Donald. Trump's your views on guns are closer to mind and they are Donald Trump's but you seem to be voting in that direction and I think in this situation. I am so curious. You've surprised me a lot. So we'll see but I'm very curious as to how how you're going to defend trump in that or talk about those confederate monuments but before we get into that for the patrons let's get into your personal story I'll just let you tell it I'll let you talk about it because I don't know that much about it. I know there was something happened in your past which is somewhat may be related to what we were just talking about but Let's go ahead and get started with it because when you first reached out to me you you mentioned that there was a pass there and we never got into it. The first time we talked so we said we were going to sit down and talk about it for a for a dedicated show. But there's so much political stuff going on. We had to talk about this stuff too. So why don't you just tell a little bit about your background and get into your story? Yeah I'm more. I'm not the guy that most people know on the heavier having. Yeah so or like I'm not guy you wouldn't imagine the guy used to. Let's say that I I suffer from what you would call obsession Since I was a kid I would get it into something. I will become obsessed with it so if I was Muslim I become a jihadis air. When I was a Christian I became. Hey you can practice madge. If you've practice imagine we'll have some problems and I wanted to be. I've always been a fanatic in a sense. I'm that way by nature so growing up. I grew up in the projects call West Gate and this is in Georgia Basically I was born and raised their crime ridden. I got six brothers and sisters and we all lived in the same house. My mother and father was divorced so with my father left. He still been in my life. My father was always in my life but by the streets took a whole would know the streets got hold of many of us and affect. It was around the age of twelve when my brother went to prison is when I really got absorbed into the the life of Dean against and when I wanted to be against I wanted to die in prison or die by bullet. I want people to know that I was the biggest game. So that ever walked the planet because I'm a fanatics and not only wasn't Fanatic about being engaged. At that moment I was a fanatic. As far as kristen goes I was going to church faithfully and I was writing notes in my book. I was the pastor. Love me they was giving me personal lessons and I was very good at getting people on my side. People believed in me even when I was doing the wrong thing so there are certain things that I won't talk about of course but I originally started committing crimes. I started Jack Boy. I was robbing Peter that that was my thing. I had my one of my best friends. He sold drugs my other best friend. He sold guns and Iraq. So Iraq up drug dealers with two guys that my homeboy will provide and I will take the draws. Give it to my other homeboy. Let himself makes cut. So that became my life and I went to move daddy when I was fourteen years old. My mom had enough for me. I have been back and forth juvenile So my daddy decided okay. Let me take you me see if I can get you back on the right path. It lasts long before I knew my daddy was thinking about putting me in a boys home but eventually be I just went back to my mom's place in just started living in the streets So at age thirteen I get caught for robbery. Charge and possession of illegal substance with do tend to district Disturb you get with the firearm charge. Basically be me. And when my homeboys we rob a white guy we will. We were going throughout the streets searching for somebody to rob and I wanted to rob somebody so bad because one of my one of my connections was going to prisoners so I needed to read up on drugs so I was like. I need to make some real money now. So we went looked somebody rob Couldn't find anybody gave up as soon as I gave up a white gaston walk across the street. I say White Guy. Because I think it's relevant to you know. Keep it on a really care as much when you rob each other but when you have a white guy you more significance. So my homeboy didn't know what's going I tell you down. The white guy held at gunpoint. GimMe what you got took. Everything ran off eventually. I was I was telling myself so I didn't really rise too long. Ran For about a block down the street and then I started talking to myself. Were unknowingly the guy that rob ran out into the street. Somebody picked him up and they went searching for me. And My homeboys day spotted us now this bass situation because these guys have done we will really be in a situation but they call the police so the police put up on. Us guys drawn. Get on the ground get on the ground and started to keep walking and I started walk because I wanted to drop a gun inside a Bush. So hopefully you're gonNA find a gun and I could say it wasn't me but ended up finding so I go to book. I'm fifteen at the time. Keep in mind two years. Go by homeboys seventeen. So he goes to the county jail I go to the juvenile a in icon bomb attack. Her mom armed robbery. I'm not concerned about the armed robbery. Because I'm thinking I'll get six months in jail. I'll you know I didn't know at the time. It was ten to twenty years minimum. Maximum for bribery. Charge just on robberycharge. A I was supposed to get off probation that Friday. I got locked up that Wednesday. So police officer came in and said. Hey may stop start right. I'm like what I mean. We gotta Jolla Tire. Let's do this. He's like now. You're looking at ten to twenty years. Twenty eight silicate uptown so I already understand gravitation. I'm like all right man. I'M A soldier. This is what I do ours. Prepare for so long story short rambling on a lot but fast forward a year six months later. I'm still haven't received my time at all and I'm praying heavy. I'm Paul Ryan but I'm still doing bad things while I'm locked up. I'm still taking kids meals. I'm still running some kind of organization while I'm locked up. I'm still making things hacker but I'm still deeply in my face for some reason. Christianity a me being a gangster co exist at same time because I felt like God had chose me. The important stole your six months in. I'm going to the superior. Court face attended twenty years. I got a court appointed lawyer. He doing nothing. He Ain't worth crap. you get out of this you know. I need to get back to the streets. You know I gotta be somebody so the day that all supposed to get my time twelve hours before that the Superior Court judge is the top judge in the Superior Court. The head guy charged everybody by selling me. You get ten or twenty years this around Twelve Hour. Before he he gives me an exception. Say you know what the data taught me. My Dad got on the stand told him he didn't blame me for what I did. Eve blamed himself because it was designed to keep his son safes. Who was his keeper son? Not Roaming the streets trying to kill people in China for our people. He failed as a father in a judge. Does like. Don't make excuses for your son. He was like no. It's my job on his fault The compassion just based on what my father said. He gave me a five year deal. Juvenile will be locked up until I was twenty years old. We get out of juvenile and I served the whole five years a I got out when I was twenty years old so I grew up. Fifteen to twenty in juvenile. I'm twenty seven now I wasn't in politics By the time I got of jail our was eight years while I was locked up the chaplain. He taught theology in Augusta Georgia. He talked he was teaching me everything he knew. He taught me from Genesis. Away revelation. I read the Bible four-time back I had a lot of time and more and more. I read warm. Why learned he started breaking things down in Hebrew and I was like. This doesn't make sense know lot of the show on earlier religious. A this similar to this click in my head but I was still fanatic. I still wanted to believe so I got out twenty years. Oh this girl you know her. She did but she's a coat so I said you know I'm trying to be on the right path. Here let me find a nice little turns going girl and they'd be something to work out so I go to the cold and I'm still at this moment trying to believe in because I don't know what atheism is and I've never heard of eight years. I never met eight years. Didn't know they existed something about Christianity. Don't make sense to me. So I built to this Cole Past. The has the women clean his house. Yes women have to justice certain way the mid half the dress a certain way. I got a job at a bowling alley. He told me I had to quit my job because they sold liquor. I mean it was very controlling a not to be controlled so I started bumper Hayes with past and people started coming to meet the axes. I was questioning him on the day. He didn't even know about people coming to me. So he started out he started going up on going on the Colony out saying I won't listen to him. I listened to my dad. I don't WanNA listen but people was coming to me for information because I knew more about our that he did so. I went outside the California. I say we can finish head. I'm a grown grown man. I don't care nothing about you. The preacher let's do this with the girl calmed me down so I love and I never looked back but that was the moment where I realized religion dangerous and I realize what people could do with the power of religion in people beliefs so I started watching Christopher Hitchens. I started watching Sam Harris. Just trying to seek answers and the moral while listened to realize man Christianity. You don't make says this Christianity you'll make sense at identify until later on but that's basically my story and the talking a lot but I'm gonNa tell you that was fascinating. Don't feel like you were rambling at all. I feel like That was thank you for sharing that. That's huge And I'm so amazing story how it really is. And I'm so glad you're able to make that turn around. Wow there's so much so I I'm curious about the quote that you called it What was what was the denomination or what branch. What would what Iraqi of Christianity was it denominational? They had no denomination they. They in claim with denomination they said every denomination was against God to separate themselves. Anybody was welcome. But you have to follow. Certain rules And a lot of people say that Christianity Sales People but atheism. Save me because the moment that I cast of my mind that God had a plan for me that I was destined to be self whether it was a gangster or whether it was a leader of Church I've had people had their As a we want you to be the past and I knew that I had control issues. I had to be the person with cower. That's hard now and when I became eight years everything cleared up. I realize I'm not chosen by God. I don't have a special destiny. You know. Eighty of them save me. You know usually hit Christmas. Cry Down Atheism saving so you became an atheist around what age I'll take the light. Twenty two years old n even atheist laws at the time was only about five years ago. Wow so I was a fanatic. Atheism at one point myself. Yeah how how? How did that go? What tell me about the the the fanaticism around being an atheist? Some of us are listen to Christopher hitches. The anti the way he spoke the way. Richard Doc is you know just the the amount of dollars had in the way. They commanded the conversation not that they were fanatic. But it gave me a surprise and I was like I've got all this newfound information I gotTa tell people so I started going around churches. I started calling passes. I WANNA debate you in front of your whole congregation. Let's do this at once. Again fanatic by nature so the atheism took me over and I went full force it faithfully. I got my daddy and my life. He he was able to steer me and realize that. You got you diller with and teach you how to control the I went to three years in juvenile under mental evaluation. I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia polar disorder and most violent. I mean I had broken guys Moses. I've I've valid things while locked up. Threes mental health counseling just to come out on the side and you know so. I bet to a to control what it is that I've been dealing with says. I've always been a kid as a lot there. So how how did you find my show? You came across with my journey. I had ran out of things to listen to this. And that's hold on hold on hold on that's the new slogan Dogwood Beat for when you run out of Shit to listen to all this so I've been listening to you for a long time so I listen to. Christopher hitchens read all his books and where he died well I think he died before Before I realized he was but I. Don Harris are listening to Sam Harris. What to Richard? As I went through Lawrence Krauss I went through the whole nine yards and I was just out of material and I started looking. Eight Years Debates. Eight years debates. I start looking dog. You came up as soon as I heard. It was all from there. I listen every week every week faithfully. I was like also affect you did. The great jobs is talking to Christmas. Wasn't rude about it. You respect fool and had a healthy dialogues even more respectful than our be argument before I got myself under control. So that's how I found. You was cool man. I appreciate that so this is this is making me. Think of something when you were when you were a juvenile and you're convicted. Does that consider you a convicted felon or because it happened as a minor you me record when you turn twenty and get out. How does it work a because originally charged as an adult and because the judge dropped me down juvenile only give me the five years invaded Lesser I had to wait till I got out and then I had to go wait two years and then I went to the courthouse and I asked my record to be exposed. They gave me a lawyer. I Win Pay. My did the whole thing in a record. So you're you're not considered a convicted felon not at all. That's good that's good so you can vote. You can have the gun legally and all that definitely the funny thing is I know a lot of people come to realize there is no god but I have been to a lot of things that was just finally got all the time like I got jumped by like twenty guys while I was locked up me and two other guys got jumped by twenty guys from Atlanta. Georgia I won't go away without a scratch. I was fighting back but I walked away without a scratch and I was like no guy who got me. Is that bill that you like God looking out for everything? That happens is reconfirmed. Even five years that I got after not getting ten to twenty guy got I have a long way to get out the. Wow man that's huge. I've always always known that atheism can save but I don't think it's. Atheism is doing the saving. I think it's the humanism piece that's doing the saving but hearing your story really just brings that Holman and confirms that it's possible for it to have that positive effect in someone's life so that's huge man. Michael I agree that was the those most compelling part of your story for me is when you said atheism saves which is I feel. It saved me too. I feel that Doing away with the the notion that that there's a purpose for my life has given me the strength to find a purpose in my life. Strive that I've taken my hands my life out of the hands of what? I consider to be something more and put it into my own hands and When you said that it really resonated with the obvious it's a great story man I. I hope you had considered doing more to get your story out. I mean David I live in Los Angeles California and I'm sure our first thoughts were like screenplays shaping up nicely right. That and I think you would be great as like a a motivational motivational speaker for teenagers. Like especially in those types of areas where I could see you go into high schools and telling your story and sharing that you know you're very real The way you come across is is genuine but you know you made some mistakes. And you've turned it around. I think you could be a big inspiration to a Lotta Lotta young men following the Occurs to put my voice out because I suffered with some form narcissism. I would say because I felt like university around me and I want power so I was very hesitant to put myself out because I didn't want to become obsessed again but I think I've overcome it to the point where I'm humble you know. I try to remain humble if things I don't know I'm willing to say that and I want to. I WANNA put my story out. I'm writing a book right now. it's this fire by my story but is gonNA is fixing but it's also spied by a lot of life units that. I've been through I PLAN WILL COME TO LA panel getting involved with community. These things that I wanna do and the only thing I could do at this moment was started Youtube Channel. Estar having real conversations getting people involved do people have we continue to general quick. The HAVI heaviest show on you to J. A. V. I. E. R. May so you spell it twice. I may not say everything that you like. I'm trying to have a conversation is stuff. I'm still learning so don't be too hard on. Let me tell you this when you get ready to move to La. Leave Your Dame guns in Georgia? We don't we don't want that. Shit here let me ask you do you think can also and you come to La. Look US UP. Avi Air for as long as you leave your damned guns and Georgia. Don't come into my House de Revolver. Let me ask you this. Do you think that that piece of you? That is very much a fanatic and goes all in all or nothing. Do you think that has something to do with the The trumpism that whole you into that that mindset. There does element to that. I made that first. Hand dare his element. I don't think he's the majority of element there. That's what got me interested in trump from the very beginning. Okay because I saw a guy who did back down. He was interested in that. Will I captivated and then I started listening trying to figure out what issue may who was right who was wrong. Donald Trump got into politics. A iselin what's still need to learn but I will say I think I'm doing too bad so well starting off you know But there are a lot of issues. I'm still learning about. I think. Yeah Paulie of you. You defend conservative a conservative ideology. Well obviously a debate sometimes on online on the power movement page. I will ask you I don't know that you need to answer this right now but maybe for future conversation. I would like to put together a case since you were in a cult by your own definition. I'd like to try and have a discussion with you about the similarities between the Maga- cult in my opinion the tr- The cult of trump and other colts. And I'd be curious if you see. Similarities definitely is populism as best. I thank Stephen Bannon. Going IN. It was populism. I think I think Obama was populism below. There is a very good sense of Kotik personality. I mean Joe Biden would be forced to be arm. John Bernie Sanders. If if they had that smooth talk that Obama. Had you know that that that that walk yeah of course but I mean when it comes to the gentleman that was the leader of the cult? You are in with. It believed that he was somehow divine that he was somehow better than your average person. What was it that made him the leader ordained by God? God had chosen him he. He was a military guy and when I said he spoke he spoke with authority. A It only took somebody like me to challenges to challenge him. Because everybody else would. Just how could you fight back against this guy who speaks with authority? When he says something you could feel the conviction behind it. Like he was a hundred percent sure of himself and I think only because I had same personality I was willing to respect him but I could see it. Most people could not fight charisma leader in such a way. Well my first question would be. How do you feel when you hear that? This large percentage and I'm not sure exactly what that percentage is but of Evangelical Christians believe that Donald Trump is ordained by God and was chosen by God to be president as an atheist. Do you do you find that. Problematic is very problematic. He an atheist conservative is. That's a tight tightrope back that live like Is is a very very much a balance at but this is what I wanted to say earlier to. Dave it slipped my mind. If you wanted to change conservatism. I think the best way to do. It is with data services. At paid. If you're not with their conservatism. You're just the enemy of you're trying to change us by the all with two -servative to change and reform is gonNA happen with it. I really do believe that I get that and I. I'm just sitting here imagining. All of the people who feel like Javier should be in their group and throw a fit when he's not like it's. It's almost like you. You just don't disappoint so many people because you're you don't think the way they think you should like for example when you say you're a trump supporter or not trump supporter but a trump voter guess and they find out. You're in atheist. They're like Oh not you you one of us man you. You're supposed to be on our side. What do you mean? You're you're an atheist you'll believe in God you're not going to church with us and then atheist find out. You're a trump supporter that what trump. You're supposed to be one of us to be thinking liberally like this and then when black folks find out you're either one of those things like what are you supposed to be one of us. What are you doing with with the white devil atheist and with you know it with with with trump? It's just it's funny that you don't fit into any category man and I think that's what we love about you but but remember you don't have to hold onto those things to be unique. I mean you are who you are. Your story is amazing. So don't feel like you have to like if you give up trump and decide to vote liberally in this election that somehow removes a part of your identity and I think a lot of people do feel that way and when when Sigmund Freud coined the term group psychology in nineteen twenty one. That's what he about he talked about. How essentially group psychology is when someone is willing to replace a portion of themselves with the group it. Here's a perfect example. Let's say you were a football game. Twelve degrees outside and guys. Have you know eagles painted across their chest or whatever and they have no shirts on? We can look at that and say oh. That's funny that's cool. Those guys might get on TV. Might not if they do get on. Tv is going to be a split second and their faces aren't what we're looking at. We're noticing the guys have these giant letters painted across their chest. So the concept here is they are now. Saying the group's benefit the group's ego is more important than the individual's needs of being warm and comfortable so I will do this to benefit the group even though it hurts the individual right and so when you walk up to that person and say don't be an eagles fan. Eagles aren't that good or eagles or terrible. That person feels attacked and they feel that you're actually asking them to remove a piece of themselves so it's so hard to get people to come out of that mindset. Christians are the same way they very much identify with. Christianity is not something I believe. It's who I am right and so it's very hard to get someone to remove that piece of themselves. It's a long process and I think the same is true for most things dealing with tribalism and just like crips and bloods. Same Situation I and I would say the same is true for for the magazine called the people who will day in day out. Trump trump trump. No matter what we go. What about this terrible thing? They did just like you. They'll go terrible. I hate that about him. Trump twenty twenty. Like what. Wait why why is it? Just still trump trump trump and we bring up an individual issue. You'll you'll acknowledge you'll be like yeah. I think he's wrong on that. I disagree with him on that. So you're not gonNA vote for him. Oh I'm still voting for him and that's where Michael Michael and I go. That's the part that sounds religious to US knowing that you're knowing that the team that you're on is heading the wrong direction or is heading in the direction that you wouldn't drive it but you're still voting for it and I'm going on some cases. Many Bernie supporters are having to do that with Biden. But that's just how bad we think that's just how bad we think trump is and I think I I. I don't remember the exact numbers I got to last time. But I would say if Bernie Bernie would have got me about ninety two percent of where I wanted to be. Biden is probably seventy four that and I feel like trump is a negative three hundred right. So that's why I say on voting for Biden and I feel like if we were to line out the issues one by one with you. I think you would lean more towards Biden than you would trump on the issues. But there's something about it. Maybe it's the fanaticism something about it keeps you in the trump camp. What is it okay? So Limit BRIGHTNESS DOUBT. I believe in the two already system not so much. I do believe that we should have alternatives. But if we're going to have a two party system. I believe that they have to be checks and balances between the two parts and a lot of people are under the impression that we could just leave one party behind and if we just allow this other party take keep getting let the keep getting everything is going to be fixed GOI. We have a tendency to move either. that shoehorn that been horseshoe that you talk about people the left or too far to the right. We end up in the same place. So my solution will never be to fix conservatism by leaving conservatism. Because I'm conservative without Trou- Or value system than it is a Truck System Care for the Republicans. I was never a Republican but I am conservatives and I'm looking for the left to understand that we can't go too far left without leaving the right by the right understand. You can't go too far right without leaving the less the high so the only way that I can best frayne this argument to wear people understand the world we're living in is fix your star. I'm going to fix my side and I'm trying to help fix the less but I can't fix the goal because the left's bidding. They don't understand it yet but the left lis leads chart. I really believe the left needs year. I have here I have to say man. I think it is exactly the opposite and let me make that case. The Democrats have put up essentially a nineteen eighty six Republican in Joe Biden. He is a moderate. He's a centrist. He is that guy that is not going to far either way go ahead say. Bernie's too far left all right if Bernie is too far left. Trump is too far right biden. Is Your Guy Trump service? Trump trump is not Republican. Trump is a democrat each switched over because he thought a win the Republican Party which he happened to be right and I guess I'm in a situation where tolliday did Bernie Sanders. It was able to do that. Trump conservative side Bernie Sanders. The standard honesty ended up thinking. Looked like he stood a chance but they was gonNA find a way we all knew in the back of our head. They were trying to find a way to destroy. Bernie Sanders types and the left is supposed to be the champion. The left supposed to be the one. That's fighting for the little people and Fight Info to revoke the matter if the Conservatives got it wrong you should expect the liberals to get it right and if the Liberals can't get it right. They deserve to lose because of the Conservatives are evil. You'RE GONNA call US racism homophobic. You have to lose. The reputation is already destroyed. What happens when the liberal reputation gets destroyed and the Conservatives reputation is destroy is chaos? We see it right now. It's chaos but it doesn't seem to matter when when trump did what he did with Ukraine. The evidence was there. The Republicans knew the evidence was there. Trump supporters acknowledged that. He screwed up that he had done something illegal. He had tried to ask for foreign interference into our elections. The commentary from the Senators was. He learned his lesson. He'll be a good boy. Moving forward one guy stood up to Mitt. Romney won and he believes God is watching his every move and that's why he stood up to trump. That's the only thing keeping Mitt Romney from getting in line with all the other Shady Ass Republican senators. That voted to keep this man in office despite the ridiculous behavior the nasty way he talks to people the childish immature things. He says the anti-scientific things he says about climate change being a Chinese hoax and corona virus was a hoax. And then it wasn't that big of a deal and he's amazing and he's awesome in everything about him as perfect in. He just insult people who disagrees with him. He is everything that we hate the army and nobody said that they won't put our back from chains. I mean this has been gone before. Trump trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom of a problem. That's been going on in America for a long time. You don't get Donald Trump unless those problems exist I agree. I agree but how year when you have a headache. You still take advil. Advil doesn't make the go away at treats the symptom you at least do something about it. Okay we got to treat a Simpson at BECA. This of trump. I thank you get a better Republican Party. You get a better Democrat Party and and right now the Democrats still think they have no choice. But it's Joe Biden. They got no choice. They Bacon on that when they kicked to the curb. They knew you would make this sacrifice. I know they calculated this. This politicians do if Joe Biden weans. The Democrat. Party is lost to you. You will never get what you want. And the Republican Party their lost. Because they're going with trump but trump got his if trump years and he was out of the door the Republicans we go along with whatever comes next if you kick Donald Trump to the curb. They're going to stay in a position that they're in right now right. Now you're gonNA have the left not respecting your position and the right thing like they were when Donald Trump got to kick to the curb. We'll have to deal with Donald Trump. Let me offer this. You want a more moderate centrist government. You don't want extremes on either side right. I submit to you that if Donald Trump wins a second time after all the bad shit that he's done the illegal shit the cheating on his wife with the Porn Star paying her hush money lying cheating with Ukraine. I mean you could list stuff that he's done he's done wo more shit on the record than any other. President we know of in modern history. He has been conniving. He's been sneaky. He's lied he will say some. Shit in the next day. Look right the camera. I didn't say that. And then he just moves on with his life. This dude is incredible. Incredibly extreme if our if dolphins again after being so in your face so nasty grab them by the Pussy just all the terrible shit that he brought to the presidency. If he wins again I think it gets so much more extreme for you. Javier I think that pushes the right side of politics man. We can go even further now and the Democrats have to come more further right in order to win back some of those votes and we start going down a away that we may never recover from. Well I think I. If trump boost this is worse than if trump wings why does for instance if if Obama loss it will be worse than if Obama won because day it will be against it because he was black. People would much rather feel like okay. We gave Stott regardless if he was glad we got Obama. I whistle on but if you don't pick Obama it's racism. Racism becomes the central focus while we didn't get Obama as President. The first one out shaw the first time but if Obama had lost his re election I think then you could say we didn't like what he did. So so trump got his four years and he has been atrocious. He has been embarrassing to our country spilling actually this while. Y'All have such a heart attack of ditsy conservatives that trump is dead all that he did and you say that is the coach's mentality but I don't think everybody who support trump is a is a cultish fanatic. Let me answer your question. I don't think we are convincing them. I think they already know that he's terrible. I think the vast majority of Republicans or conservatives are like you. They know the shit that he's doing this on paper that's on record is disgusting. It's deplorable it's terrible but I think there is the tribalism of at least he's not a Goddamn Democrat. That's all it is and I can tell you my all or was also the same way with Democrats because don't people defending look. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. Who's worse than who if you WANNA say? Donald Trump is worse than any other president. We had you entitled to say that but the excuses the tribalism four Clinton for other things have been done on the left that existed Dow tribalism existed before this behavior Thou Donald Trimbe not look at all. Don Trump is have you. I've never said I'm voting blue. Just because they're blue they're Democrat. I laid out at the beginning of this show. I laid out in my show with Michael and I laid out in my thirty two minute. Monologue specific that Democrats get us closer to a better humanitarian country than Donald Trump selfish rich ask policies for billionaires. That's what I'm I'm against. Who He is as a person. I'm against his attitude and I'm against his conservative his conservative politics. I'm not I don't know anybody that Says No. I'm voting blue because it's Democrat. It's because of what Donald Trump has done three years ago. There were hundreds of atheists super. Left-wing ANTIFA supporting atheists that. Were calling me conservative. Dave Rubin texted me one time said I hear you're a conservative now and then had a bunch a laughing faces and I said. Don't you ever call me the C word again? He saw hateful messages being passed around about me being added as just a trump supporter as conservative as a neo con. Because I wasn't on board with ANTIFA. Okay now the majority of those folks who were anti me and pro Antifa have seen the problems with ANTIFA and have since come back to reality and I've got a lot of message from folks saying I'm sorry I was mean to you. I kind of got back into my religious mindset. I shouldn't have done that. Thank you for staying level headed okay. We mostly resolved that I was considered a conservative to them because I wouldn't follow their extremist views but I feel like Donald trump is an extremist on the opposite side. And I think you are two logical and moderate to fall for either side. You're not going to be ANTIFA guy but I don't understand why you're trump guy I feel like if you WanNa stay logical and reasonable and be the grownup country that we used to be. I think Joe Biden is the sensible response for that and it's not because I'm tribal with my blue voting. It's because of what Donald Trump has done. Let me add this. If Donald Trump would have been a sensible logical reasonable person who actually got things done improve. The economy didn't fire the pandemic team and cut budgets to the CDC. If he didn't create the problems we have right now. I would be saying. Give me a reason not to vote for Donald Trump Democrats were. I don't I don't want to come off as there are a lot of things that I like that. Donald Trump was done. I think he's done a lot like I like the first that I like. You Know Survey Donald Trump his done that I really think. Why did Obama didn't know for as the first step he didn't step in and help. What IS THE FIRST BUSINESS? Helping the prisoners get out of prison for Petty Drug Charges. People over convicted increasing. You know prison conditions and so forth of that nature you know. Basically to help with the prison systems helped prisoners. Get out early. Who will over sense it? I like that too. I'll do research in it and see. How Much Michael? Are You doing somersaults? What is going on? Cartwheel's did you see that heavier cartwheel's okay so the first step I I'm that's good if trump actually did that among I'm on board with him. What else he got. Hold on hold on the way by the way I'll say it's ironic to me that he would be encouraging to release prisoners from jail while simultaneously locking children in cages on our border. That's that's weird if it's a part of his mindset to free people from captivity it should be all people not just Americans but go ahead. What was the next thing I mean? As as far as I mean there are people mad at Obama. Dramatic many people Deported people were treated. I think Obama also committed a certain amount of drone strikes and I think children were murdered in those Jones strikes. That Obama Gave the call on the. If I'm not mistaken I think Obama even bombs funerals rules to get terrorists chosen was attending and I. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I I heard a conspiracy theorist Had A video about it. I haven't confirmed that. Have you confirmed that heavier from the education that received? That's who are you feeling information from credible sources. Or maybe honest are these conspiracy theories youtubers like what's what's your source says the conspiracy theory and I say affirm I've heard it from multiple sources but I've never really followed it all the way down but I D- normal. He did a a number of Jones. Writes where children were murdered. I don't know about the actual bombing Graveyards and I'm increase sites or so forth rallied Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any other president before him So I mean yeah no look. I know I had that issue. I had the same issue with Obama. I saying that he wasn't GonNa do anything about marijuana users of marijuana facilities in he ended up shutting down more dispensaries than any other president. He definitely has his flaws. He definitely made some mistakes. I think obamacare started off good and then Republicans pushed on it so much to ruin it. Get it through. He allowed his. He wanted to force through obamacare without it being perfect and it ended up being pretty terrible. I absolutely despise obamacare. I don't think we should get rid of it completely anymore. I think now that we have it. We need to improve upon it and expand it but Donald trump just wants to rip it away without a replacement. And that's not okay. We can't just throw millions of people off of health care. That's not gonNa work either so I don't like Donald Trump's plans to fix Obama's mistakes we can go back in time and talked about how him him him being perfect but he sure as hell wasn't making deals with Ukraine Javier. He wasn't saying grab women by the Pussy. He wasn't mocking a disabled reporter on live television. I mean Donald Trump is disgusting man. He made a deal with Russia. Like you know hot mic on. Tell who in their in our back often when this. What's wrong with that? Yeah House in from because if you are that that's purely political. That's kind of yeah. That's only know happening that we know happens. But here's the difference. He leaned over and said one sentence. I'll have more flexibility after the election. That's true that's American politics. That's real okay. But Donald Trump had ongoing conversations and investigations with Ukraine. And then he did this. He goes to Helsinki standing next to Vladimir Putin after all of our FBI and intelligence groups tell our president that Russia interfere with elections. Donald trump comes out. I asked Putin. He said he didn't do it. I believe that Ukraine did it. Why would our president? That's treason bro. That is treasonous to deny all of your own internal intelligence agencies and believe the leader of another country who is said to be our enemy who attacked us in a cyber attack and you agree with that president over your own people. Donald trump is a fucking traitor. How can patriots get behind him? Then me lend me charter. Let's get real for a second okay. There's a lot about me that I just don't express but I'm not making this Yousef for Donald Trump. What I'm saying is I don't know what it's like to be president. I don't Judge Obama too harshly because I don't understand what it's like to be in that so I'm not I'm not with this whole be regular citizens that can act. Does the president any and everything but what I will say is with. You are the president of the United States is a balancing act is between what people perceive and what. Your true intentions really are. And I don't know where that line is. Donald Trump but what I'm saying is there has to be a level of secrecy negotiation and a plan sometimes keeping into enemies closer. The phrase is a smart strategy and I'm not saying Donald Trump is a strategist. He could possibly be doing the dumbest thing in the world but also willing to consider the Donald Trump is trying to play it a certain way to get it like make Putin think he's dumb or Putin fake he's his firm and Donald Struck is working. Another angle is a possible well the willing to rule it out. Well we able to say so with a lot more assurance if we could see the man's tax returns if we knew who he was in bed with but the fact that we don't know who is in bed with that Eric Trump in an interview with golf magazine in I believe two thousand fourteen when they said how are you getting the money for the golf resort said quote. We're getting all the money we need from Russia. And then the man says he's going to release. His tax returns never releases his tax returns. We really don't know what business deals he's made. We know that he's made deals in Moscow that we know that a lot of Russian Business deals were made in the trump tower and then he goes and has this off the record. Nobody can be. They're not even translators. I mean to translators but not even The president's staff can be present in the meeting and then he comes out taking the side of the the dictator. It was really strange and then not to mention it was his worst lie ever the next day when he goes I meant I said I don't see why he would do it. I meant to say I don't see why he wouldn't do it or it was just being sloppy lie. As DONALD TRUMP BEEN TOUGH ON RUSSIA. Than. Let's say the last three presidents I. I don't know as Donald trump been tough on Russia as he says sanctions on Russia as he on ranks he was supposed to put sanctions on Russia and tariffs on Russia. And both he fought tooth and nail even though the Senate unanimously passed them and he knew he couldn't Veto it because they had the power to override the veto. He was forced to do it. But even then. The implementation of them was feet-dragging at best in some of them. I believe still have yet to be implemented. He gave siding materials and javelin of that sort to Ukraine in order to fight Russian aggression. Yeah but Military analysts to look at that said that that was a no brainer that it was easy. The Russian military is massively. Powerful Ukraine has really very little power whatsoever that Arming the Ukrainians did not bolster their position. Militarily speaking against the Russians at all that it really wasn't much of an aide in that dead department that it was an easy one the Russians aren't scared of the Ukrainians having more javelin they're going to beat them anyway militarily speaking low shady. There is no amount of evidence you can present to Donald Trump. That would convince the Russians did best with our elections yet at the same time shows no those from own Donald Trump knows the rushes inefficient without election. Donald Trump. I mean if he he's in his position where he admits it that people are going to say how seat the Russians helped you win the election but from what the specialist telling me the Russia's China calls all counter chaos within our elections. Because THEY WANNA exactly. What's happening now so hat whether Hilary one? Donald Trump won. They wanted to cast doubt in the American people. Whether or not there with Jimmy. Now will they did they. They meddled in the election on behalf of Donald Trump and I always ask trump supporters. This I'm like. Why didn't think they did that? Do you think that they thought the election of Donald Trump would be good for America or good for Russia and it seems like a very obvious? Easy answer to me but Maybe you can shed some light on that Yes for. What bound is Dan. They were working both sides from what I understand. They would just sewing sees of chaos in our system and they knew maybe they knew that doing it with Donald Trump were cosmo chaos and division but there are sources that say that Hillary was they they would attack Hillary but it was also creatine fate trump things and putting it out there as well. They wanted us to be fighting each other. They want us to doubt the election and the lady said that in the Ukraine testimony that she understands why Donald Trump field the way he feels because people are saying that he stole the election with the help of the Russians. I mean is only a fun to be defensive. There's people in his own cabinet. That are leaking information. So of course he's GonNa had information from certain people in his cabinet. I mean nobody wanted. Donald Trump Elise didn't want donald trump. He's working under a situation where he don't even know he could trust the people his cabinet. What do you want the man to do it? Donald Trump may leave his tax returns. Start by releasing your tax returns. That's what I want to alter Maurice Eddie I'm for the Donald. Trump said he would release his tax forms if Donald trump releases a tax phone. I'll be happier. I wish that it was a law that he had to. But if he's not against the law at the end of the day there's no obligation for him to add. It made that law. I didn't make that rule. That's the people who came before him that you have to take that with but hold on this quick answer no quick quick. Yes or no if you would please. Does it bother you heavier? The Donald Trump thinks that a woman should go to prison for having an abortion. Is that by design bother you? Okay by the U. That Donald Trump does not want to fix the gun hole loophole. But you do WanNa fix it. It doesn't bother you that he's fine with leaving. The G- Loophole Open doesn't WANNA out. Most of the crimes committed are the result of the gun. Show loophole I most of these cases who get done. Get it from somebody in the family hearings a weapon. But how would you know if the gun hole loophole exists? That means you. Can you think everybody should who gets a gun? Should have a background check. Donald Trump disagrees with you. He's fine with people to get guns at gun shows without any record of it without a background check. That doesn't bother you that the leader of our country is okay with people. Having guns without background checks I better gun shows and every time that I bought a gun at a gun show. I did a background shit. Thou there may be people who are not running the background checks like this post to. They considered a gus McMahon man. If I live in Georgia I can just sell you my gun. I can just come to you. I can just come to your house and say three hundred dollars in handed to you. I don't have to know your name out of the right and only have to give you a receipt. It can just be cash. You can't do that in California. It's illegal if I want to sell a gun in California. I have to take it to a licensed dealer. They put it on consignment. They sell it to an individual in once they sell it. I get my percentage and they get cut for selling it but it's all registered through the state that's how you safely transfer a firearm but in Texas. It's not okay. Donald Trump should do that on a federal level. The reason I said no is because I'm not under the impression that the Mo the crimes that are being committed is because of the gun show loophole. You don't know they're heavier because of the less whole while not say yes but listen. That's what's keeping you in the dark on the facts though. The loophole is an unknowable thing. That's like saying are how can put this like it's like it's like saying that the people should be able to walk in banks with masks on and you like. I'm not convinced that that people wearing masks is what allows them to rob banks. How do we know if until we stop the anonymity? How do we know what's causing it? Because people who were robbing banks are wearing masks? We just don't know if we made them take them off. If only the bad guys are gonNA wear masks or not. The loophole is a mysterious sort of black hole where things can be done without any registration or background check. And that's a problem. We don't know where the guns are coming from. That's another thing. We don't know that the guns being sold they. I'm done with him man. I'm certain done Michael. Are you drunk? You good buddy. What's going on? I AM SOBER AS A CHURCH MOUSE. But unfortunately the power on the phone. I keep having to switch outlets between power headphones this point. I think it's funny at the Emily van that in because it's funny sound like he just passed out in the middle of our conversation Are Okay. I'm under the impression that let's say you close the gun show loophole. I just don't think it'll make a difference. Honestly I think people are GONNA get cars but if I mean is not one of the thing that that bothers me that much. I think I know how to get going. I I've seen the way people get guns. And there's no gun. Show loophole that we not getting the concerned about air people. Don't want buddy. I think that's where you're wrong. I think that the guns that you know that gangsters have access to come in originally through gun-ho loopholes without background checks without registration. And that's how they're able to get on the streets but listen if I had to buy my gun from a licensed dealer and my name was put on that serial number. I am not given that gun to eighty gangster about how much money they offer me. Okay but if I have a gun come through under the radar and I can transfer it anywhere. I want to and you offer me a thousand dollars for it. I might sell that to you. Because there's no record of me being caught so I think if we do close. The loopholes will reduce the gun violence period. If you registering weapons you reduce the amount of weapons. That could not saying. Gangsters are all. I'm saying a bunch of CRIPS and bloods are lining up at the gun. Shows to buy all their weapons your words but the dude who wants to sell the guns to them might get them at the at the gun store or at at the gun shows and then take them to the streets and sell them on the black market. That's the way it works. Well Okay and that's possible as I was just. It seems so obvious to me heavier. It's obviously with less restrictions. They're going to be more sales that the gun manufacturers the weapon manufacturers there make gang more money with less restrictions and they're the ones lobbying congress republicans in specific for less restrictions. You're not see the profit motive behind go lax gun laws that it is literally people making money off of the carnage that are trying to keep those laws loosey. Goosey because they make way more money more restrictive gun laws. Become the fewer guns they can sell and right now we have you know we know for fact that the the Mexican cartels come over the border into Texas and they buy all their guns there and and Russia back to Mexico that they make a Lotta money that they know is going to criminal enterprises. Let me let me ask you this. How did that work out with big law drugs? How did that work out with booze you Ban Blues? He said Gu's is illegal in America. How did that work out? How DID ACCOUNT FOR EVERY OTHER COUNTRY? That has gun laws. Hold on Javier of year heavier. That's a straw man buddy. Nobody's saying to nobody's saying the ban guns. You're right prohibition was bad hold on. Nobody's saying to ban guns. Man Prohibition was bad because they put a full stop on making production selling consumption. Everything and we rebelled and we want our rights back. You're right but you know what we do. You have to show an I D to buy alcohol. You can't drive around with four kegs in your car. There are certain amounts that you're not allowed to carry across county lines. They're SORTA mountains. You can't across the you can't go across sadie lines or state lines with you have to have a license to sell that alcohol. It is illegal for you to buy keg beer and then sell it to me. You can't do that without proper training and licensing that's all alcohol is registered maintained and regulated. That's all we're saying to do with guns. We're not saying to get rid of them. Were saying to regulate them just like alcohol. I wasn't acquainted with the ban while saying is restrictions are not as effective as you may think they are for example. I already thought of a loophole restrictions on the gun loophole. Let's say I go by all these guys that guy so and I put my staff on I registered get the background check and then to Marla and I put him in the trunk of My car. I'll just tell them to do that. I want to sell it to break into the car and still the guns I'll call. The police are reported Wa. I mean a lot of people get their goes by stealing from law abiding citizens who own guys legally well. The problem with that is I think there should also be laws for you. Not Having your guns properly secured so if you have one gun in a car and it gets stolen fine if you have seven. Ar Fifteen in your trunk. You don't. That's a problem okay. That should be illegal for you to drive around with seven. Aarp so you get arrested for having your shit stolen because you never supposed to have That many weapons that many high powered weapons in a in a vehicle. Okay so you put it in a shea this so you a gun one of us you keep your goals in the say just break into the state is still on. Their criminals are very very very very smart right restrictions. That you putting all what will they will find a way around him. I promise you they will reduce it. They will have here. But how is it that the police can identify a stolen car from a legitimately owned car? It's that registration it's the legal processes that we go through to make sure that we legally have the Karner paperwork is in order that when a cop pulls you over you can prove it your car and not a stolen car into by the way could steal your car and by the way you get to do that once you have a second break in of another a listen to me though. You have a second break in of another shed now. You're under investigation for supplying firearms to the cartel. Okay so it still reduces the amount heavier no matter which way you slice it but I was trying to get to a point here and I think you knew that which is why you derailed. Here's the here's the reality. You disagree with trump on abortion ultimately. You agree that it shouldn't happen but you disagree with him putting laws on it for women to go to prison. I think you you obviously disagree with the gun hole. Loophole trump is okay with that. You would like to see the the loophole fixed. He's not okay with that. You obviously understand that. Russia interfere with the elections. And and you believe the FBI the CIA Internal Intelligence Donald trump regardless of what. You might think he might believe secretly publicly stated he agrees with the dictator of Russia and disagrees with our own intelligence. Going against our own to me. It's treasonous behaviour agreeing with Russia. Our Own Intelligence. You also agree. That trump should excess could show his taxes like he said he would but he's refusing to do so that's only four things and I bet you I could list twenty more that you disagree with him on but you still gonNA vote for trump. So what would would take though? Okay what would it take? I think if Donald Trump refused to leave office if Donald Trump decided that he wanted to start a war unnecessary war. He did that he did that. He did with Iran. There was no imminent threat. Remember when he lied about that he struck the general he killed general of Iran and then said there was an imminent threat and when asked for evidence they couldn't propose it they couldn't show the evidence he just flat out lied. He killed the guy because he was a bad dude and did stuff a long time ago but there was no evidence of an imminent threat. He lied to us. He lied to you in the US military force I thought when they killed him he was actually with another head of a terrorist group. Does it matter? There was no plan to hurt him. There was no imminent threat to America. Donald Trump is not authorized to US congressional war power without Congressional approval. But he ordered. I ordered a strike On on An Iranian general without congressional approval. That's an act of war. He abused his power are. Yeah but everybody was cool when Obama did it. I mean when Obama deal what he did in Libya and other situations. I ain't nobody really cared. He didn't get approval from Congress to do that. I mean in addition result in a war. I mean if anything. It was called deterrence now. The war has started that I will say. Okay you miscalculated this whole situation. You know what you're doing but apparently he killed. Salamone. Iran didn't go to war will know they did strike us back. They they I. They struck back. We had a lot of soldiers very hurt with serious brain injuries and Donald Trump went on national television said. A few people got a couple of headaches. He completely downplayed. It denied the fact that these people were actually suffering in the hospital. Because he didn't WanNa look like he just got punked by Iran but he did so the only reason there's not a war is because his punk ass didn't retaliate for Iran bombing our our base. He punked out all spurts. They called US first because they didn't really to hurt nobody. It was just an act of strength shoulder. There people will limit me. Let me put it this way. Joe Biden is going to show his taxes. Joe Biden agrees with you on the laws of abortion and not locking women up for it. Joe Biden believes and acknowledges publicly that Russia is the one who attacked us. Joe Biden wants to close the gun hole. Loophole Joe Biden is more aligned with you then. Donald trump is what is job. Vana GONNA do about China. I can't solve all the problems today heavier. You said you don't want issue voter. I don't know his plan on. I Dunno his plan on China. It's probably the same plan that they had gone on before. Donald Trump showed up. China is kicking Curse yourself cake are asked. China got big based on Joe Biden is going to play ball with China and I just made a video about this. China is a big threat allowing think a lot of people will take the As it should be a lot of things that are doing I mean. Look at the whole corona virus and how they operated with thing is if anything. That's an act of war but lack. Look I'm willing to concede on Donald? Trump is a flaw human being. That has a lot of problems and look I will be willing to bobblehead donald trump given the right candidate that I was still like okay. This guy will put us in the right direction. Added allow the right to come along with him at date. You're not gonNA bring the right along with you with Joe Biden. I think it's going to cost more to visit in the long term of our country which I if we survived Donald Trump. The right will be satisfied. And he'll give you your eight years of Democrat like we always go back and I think you need a ride in heavier heavier. I'd vote for him. Yeah I'd vote for fear of your. Let's do this. I WanNa know your take because I just listed a bunch of things that I know you disagree with Donald Trump on I. One and we're going to wrap this up but I wanNA know your take on the confederate Myers This is really important because this is something that Donald trump is praising and not only as an atheist that only a someone who understands the history but as a black man in America. I WanNa know what that means to you when our president calls them beautiful historical monuments. I'm really curious. We're going to do that for the folks over at Patriots on heavier. You've been awesome. Michael Been Awesome We're going right now to patriots dot com slash David C smalley. Everybody else drive like you know each other.

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#EERS S9 Ep3: The Suleimani Fall Out

The Erick Erickson Show

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#EERS S9 Ep3: The Suleimani Fall Out

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That's Harrys Dot com code. Five thousand. Enjoy enjoy well. Good morning to you. It is Eric Erickson here. The Erik Erikson Joe Across the state of Georgia. Six after the hour. The full number. If you WANNA that'd be a part of the program eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I got to begin and with real frustration on the way the Iran situation is being covered. First of all the median than Democrats combined. You would I think they have never ever heard the Iranians chant death to America. That somehow new to him The Iranian parliament Met In special session over over the weekend in in Islam Saturday her Friday rather Friday is the sabbath grown up in Dubai. We would have Friday and Saturday off from school. Muslims uh-huh their Sabbath was on a Friday Jews on Saturday and Seventeenth Venice and then on Sunday The the Christians Excluding the seventeenth Vince and they met on. I believe it was Saturday. The Iranian parliament didn't they began chanting death to America in their parliamentary session. And this was ground breaking news. According according to members of the media have they not been paying attention for the last forty years. It's like the news only happen. This is part of the frustration in all honesty. It is one of my a deep frustrations with the American media and how they cover things. It's as if the news for the older for the thirty and forty. somethings in the media. The news began in two thousand with Bush. V Gore George Chimi mcsally or make Bush. Hitler Halliburton stealing the race for a from Al Gore. What's old is new again? And the younger set of journalists in their twenties and thirties a history began with the election of Barack Obama and they are clueless clueless about anything American before that in anything that deviates from Barack Obama is somehow not American because it did not exist in their worldview before he ended. Its it's striking to me the way this plays out in the way old things are new again. The Iranian parliament chance death to America in a parliamentary recession and the news media says this is some sort of major thing this has been happening for forty years for forty years. The Iranian parliament element has been chanting death to America and they've been compelling people with guns to their head To get out onto the streets and do the same thing to to say this is something new is bizarre Over the last seventy two to ninety six hours the amount of people in the media who have spread stories that are simply not true or are grossly distorted from the truth has been staggering. In fact a rarely do I work on on the weekend and I felt compelled Saturday night to push out a story noting how the media was lying about the vice president of the United States. Mike Pence on Friday noted noted that General Qassam Salamone the Iranian general. Who We blew up last week authorize the tin of the nine nine eleven hijackers to travel to Afghanistan through Iran and not have their passports stamped? So you go from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan your passport get stamped in both locations nations and you can see the transit through where they're headed well if you're going from Saudi Arabia to Iran the Iranians would not stamped up their passports on their way into into Afghanistan. So essentially what was happening is they would get us. They don't you. Don't get a stamp when you leave a country you gotta stay up when you intercountry so the Saudi terrorists. The nine eleven terrorists could go from Saudi Arabia to Iran. When you get to a rod normally your passport is stamped and when you enter the country and you go somewhere else that they can see? Hey this person's been to Iran. Well that's not what happened they would go from. Saudi Arabia to Iran Iran would not stand their passport and then they would go across the border by car or sometimes by plane into Afghanistan but typically by car they would avoid checkpoints that that would require them to have their passports Ron and there was no trace of them went back and forth to Afghanistan the nine eleven commission report actually documents this. I WanNa read you some some of the nine eleven commission report. I let me read you. What Vice President Pence said about General Sulejmani General Solani assisted in the clandestine travel a to Afghanistan of ten of the twelve terrorists who carried out the September eleven terror? Stacks of the United States. Now he got the twelve wrong. It was more than that. But here's what the the nine eleven commission report says. Intelligence indicates the persistence of contacts between Iranian security officials and senior AL-QAEDA KAIEDA figures after bin Laden's returned to Afghanistan. Qalad has said that Iran made a concerted effort to strengthen relations with al Qaeda after the two thousand attack on the USS Cole but was rebuffed because Bin Laden did not alienate his supporters in Saudi Arabia collided other detainees have described the willingness of running officials to facilitate travel of al-Qaeda members through through Iran on their way to and from Afghanistan for example Iranian. Border inspectors would be told not to place telltale stamps in the passport of these travelers. Such arrangements were particularly beneficial to Saudi members of al-Qaeda our knowledge of the international travels of the Al Qaeda operatives selected for the nine eleven operation remains fragmentary. Sorry but we now have evidence suggesting eight to ten of the fourteen. Saudi muscle operatives traveled into or out of Iran between October of two thousand allison in February of two thousand. One Who is in charge of Iranian intelligence includes forces at the time General Suleimani. Now here's page aged to forty one of the nine eleven commission report. There is strong. Evidence is a direct quote. There is strong evidence. Iran facilitated the transit of Al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before nine eleven in that some of these were future nine eleven hijackers. There is also circumstantial evidence that senior Hezbollah Woah. Operatives were closely tracking the travel of some of these future muscle hijackers into Iran on November in November of two thousand. What did Mike Pence accused General Sulamani of doing the vice president? Sisulu money quote direct quote from US tweet assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of ten of the terrorists who carried out the September eleventh terrorist attack in the United States. That's true that that is absolutely true again. Here is the nine eleven commission report. They're strong evidence. Iran facilitated the transit of Al Qaeda members into another Gaffe Ghanistan Kim before nine eleven. Our knowledge of the international travels are fragmentary but we have evidence suggesting eight to ten of them traveled into and out of Iran between October. Two Thousand and in February two thousand one and Iranian border inspectors were told to not place telltale stamps in the passport of these travelers. Who would make that call it a raw? Aw General Sulejmani was the person in charge of making that call. That is not in dispute by anyone except the New York Times the LA times and Msnbc all all of whom are calling bs on might pin sane. He's lying let me read you from the La Times To Link Sulejmani one of Iran's highest ranking officials with direct involvement involvement in nine eleven is flawed. On many levels says Osama Khalil an associate professor of history at Syracuse University the first inaccuracies the number of hijackers. The right numbers. Nineteen twelve. PIN spokeswoman later wrote on Twitter Pinch said meant that twelve of the nineteen transited through Afghanistan and that ten of those twelve persisted by Sulejmani a sociology professor at Dartmouth College said there scant evidence to back up the claim. Where is the evidence in who were these ten people? She asked so the L. A. Times quotes a sociology professor to say where's the evidence. And who were these ten people. I you just read you. The nine eleven commission report which documents that ten people who were nine. Eleven hijackers went into and out of Iran. And then oh by the way the L. A. Times says the nine eleven commission report doesn't mention Sulejmani therefore it can't be true You know that's like me saying the article two of the Constitution Can't you can't say article to the Constitution wasn't designed around George Washington because the founders didn't mention him in the Constitution it's historic fact that the constitutional founders and drafters look to George Washington as the model for article too which is why article too is so thin compared compared to the other articles in the constitution. Because they presume that George Washington would define the role that's historic fact but it's not in the constitution. His name is not referenced. Therefore for based on this logic I couldn't say that because it's not in their defense that the money is not in the nine eleven commission report is irrelevant when it comes to Iran because Suleyman is the guy who called all the shots. He's the guy who would have had to sign off on it and that's not in dispute by the way by anybody but the L. A. Times quotes a sociology professor instead of quoting the nine eleven the commission. Now here's the thing. The nine eleven commission report does go on to say we found no evidence. This is direct quote. We found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning of what later I became the nine eleven attack but neither were the hijackers aware of what they were plotting so in other words they didn't know that it was nine eleven but they knew al Qaeda was plotting. And that's what Mike Pence said Selemani assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan Anniston of ten of the twelve terrorists who carried out the September eleventh terrorist attacks. That is factually true and yet the media is so much more interested interested in attacking the president and vice president telling the truth that they said he's line. And that's not it. That's not just CNN over the weekend rushed out with a dire warning from the joint chiefs of Staff Telly that they told Congress that Americans should be prepared for an imminent attack from Iran. They selectively he quoted the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff at CNN. I'm not gonNA play the audio for you because I know how people are GonNa hear the audio and think it's real CNN though pushed a story that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Half said that an attack from Iran was imminent. Actually what he said is that they are expecting a response from Iran but Americans should not worry. CNN by the way also decided that it's not worth leaving the house you know. This is one of the most amazing things for the last. What for the last three years regularly on CNN and MSNBC The New York Times the La Times The Chicago Tribune Union. The outlet they've been attacking the President President of the United States for not believing the intelligence community. And now they've all come forward and said hey we don't. We need to see the evidence we. We don't believe the evidence that's right you've got the American media that has savaged the president for three years for not believing the American intelligence community now saying they don't believe the intelligence community that's kind of shocking by the way Mark Warner honor from Virginia. He's a senator. He's the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee. When it comes to the intelligence that we had that Salami was planning a major operation against the United States? This busy Democrat. This is mark order. Not a friend of the president I want to focus on this on this threat. That and you heard with Secretary of state said there. How you've been briefed about what this threat was imminent? Does it seem. Is it any different than what Sulejmani he's been doing over the last decade I accept the notion that there was a real threat. He accepts the notion. There was a real threat. That's that's Mark Warner. There was a real threat. Well who who is skeptical of it. Well here's Katy Tur from. MSNBC need a network that has spent countless hours. She herself spent countless hours. Criticizing the president for not believing the intelligence community. The president now comes Adam believes the intelligence community and listen to this exchange with John Edwards. Shot down a drone trump almost pulled off a military strike against them and pulled back at the last minute day. They they shot holes in arguing. That I'm wondering I'm wondering if going after the second in command in Iraq if there was a plan to go after the second in command in Iraq which would which. I'm sorry in Iran which would would be akin. People are saying to going after our defense secretary. Something like that is and wasn't all our defense secretary a terrorist who's responsible for the Middle East. Say that they might and they can say whatever it is they want to say then. There are the facts. which are that they you know? Five hundred thousand people have died in Syria as a result of Iranian meddling and support for Russia in his civil war against his zone. Thousands of civilians have died during the wars. That we've been waging in the middle of this. Okay so that what you WanNa say is that we don't have the moral standing to strike somebody who is no not that I have but I am questioning the evidence that I'm questioning the evidence and being skeptical of the evidence because they haven't schoneman but the the hangover that this country is under house for three so she's questioning the evidence questioning the evidence. Notice how the evidence always has to work against the trump administration with the members of the media that If the evidence suggests that that President Trump was right to act perhaps the evidence is wrong if the evidence suggests the president was wrong to act than perhaps the evidence was right. This is like we're in sale. We're in witch trials right now. Monty Python esque which trials if the president drowns. He was telling the truth that the president floats. He's a liar. That's where where we are with the media when it comes to how they're assessing the Iranian situation back in ninety four. When I was a kid I remember the speech? It was the very first political well Political Rally political event. I I remember I was in fourth grade and nine hundred ninety four. I was about to start fourth grade and identity for And you had the Republican National Convention. I was in Houston at my cousin's house. I remember we were. They were a big democrats. My parents were Republicans we were on the floor. We were watching the Republican National Convention in nine hundred eighty four. I believe it was in Texas. I think in Jeane Kirkpatrick spoke Jim. Kirkpatrick was Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the United Nations. And I remember remember the speech. The Democrats were meeting in San Francisco and Jeane Kirkpatrick. Were they meeting at San Diego. I can't remember anyway. Jeane Kirkpatrick gave a speech each and she lamented the the blame. America first. Democrats meeting in San Francisco and I remember. That speech is a little kid and I pulled the video up and it is as as I remembered I. It's on Youtube. I may have to find it or the personal break. The blame America. First Crowd The the Democrats in San Francisco and the the blame America first crowd. They are now totally in charge of the Democratic Party. And the media. I mean we are in which trials for the president here with with MSNBC CNN and the like if the evidence works works for the president Than the president is is a witch if the evidence works against the president well letting drought it. Ju- I mean the whole thing is nuts. The president comes out and drowns than he's telling the truth the president comes out and he lies. Well he's floating therefore we've got a impeach executing do some I. It's just he can't win with the media they are absolutely savagely out to get him for three years. They've attacked the president for not believing the intelligence community and now suddenly they're attacking attacking the intelligence community by the way you know who's in the intelligence community. There were series of anti-trump stories. That came out over the weekend from the New York Times and elsewhere they were all based on sources purses within the in the intelligence community. Disputing everything that the chairman of the joint chiefs the Joint Chiefs the Secretary of state the secretary defense in the like everything. The top people are all saying the sources are disputed it from the intelligence community. You know who's in the intelligence community WHO's a reliable source for the media who they love the whistle blower who's been tried to get president trump since day one. Yes the whistle blower. He's back at the CIA I wonder if he's one of these sources. Welcome back it. Is Eric Erickson. Here is so over the weekend area this morning. Actually at the resurgence you go to the resurgent Dot Com. I've got this up I want to continue now. All the things of the media has gotten wrong in the last ninety six hours I CNN on an analyst saying that all Americans are targets of Iran while I guess technically true that's been true for forty years. It's not some change change in position with the Iranians. But there's there's more as well the New York Times at a big story over the weekend from a well respected reporter. The reporter essentially is put at risk. The lives of human intelligence operatives because there's not signal lil intelligence that would get this. It had to be human intelligence. Here is why the administration says that there is a The there was an imminent threat. That Soleimani was planning whatever it was that he was doing it was required of him to go to the Ayatollah Tola Khamenei and get permission for the thing he wanted to do. Whatever whatever attack was coming he had to go present himself before the Tolan get permission that means it had to have been a big deal? We know this from a number of sources and someone leaked that to the New York Times yes. I suspect that there are very few people would have known Soleimani had to go to the ayatollah and therefore Those people will probably their lives will be put in jeopardy by this leak to the times and again the League to the New York Times was designed to undermine the president's claim of intelligence there there were also those within the intelligence military apparatus who disagreed with killings. Aluminium thought it would exacerbate the situation Other reporters helpfully suggested did that. The entire military establishment was opposed to taking out some money which is not true. You know who else had something to say on this. This is Jay Johnson President President Obama's Secretary of Homeland Security before your Homeland Security Secretary. Your counselor at the Defense Department explain for viewers. Why that is Mike? POMPEO keep saying tariffs. There is illegal reason he keeps saying the word terrorist isn't No not necessarily believe everything that our government is saying about about money he was lawful military objective and The president under his constitutional authority as Commander in chief. Chief had ample domestic legal authority to to take out without an additional congressional authorization The weather was as a terrorist or a general in a military force that was engaged in armed attacks against our people. He was a military objective objective. He was a lawful military objective a lawful military objective. Now why is the media media running some issues and by the way you should know the New York Times reporter. Who ran that big story about the military concluded In a tweet storm about it that this probably was about impeachment. That's that's where the Democrats are going. Why are they doing this? You need to understand really why when we come back. I'll explain it to you. I promise I promise. I'm getting back to ooh sending the recipes. I took a week or two off if you WanNa get the recipes You can text the word recipe to the number three three seven seven seven What happens is you get an email back or you get a text back saying what's your email address you text back your email address and boom? You're signed up for the recipe list and Mid Week on most weeks if I remember I sent out a recipe. You don't get ads. You don't get anything like that The list isn't for sale. It's just a way to connect with listeners. listers over food because have you seen me. I have been going across though. I've lost ten pounds. I had a personal best for the dead lift This past Friday righty in any event. Now we need to get into why. The media is so fixated with attacking the president more than telling the truth for example. If you're like me I was in church yesterday. And got the push alert on my phone between Sunday school and the sanctuary that The Irani or the Iraqi parliament had voted to throw the Americans out of Iraq. And it's not true. Actually the American our committee got it wrong. It was a symbolic vote. The parliament lacked decorum because the Kurds and others were boycotting the session But it was still a symbolic vote asking the prime minister. We come up with a timetable. The prime minister backed the resolution Timetable in the Middle East is code for not going to happen. There's been a a timetable. Since nineteen eighty four on getting Hezbollah of out of Lebanon there have been multiple timetables in the Middle East. Everyone understands a timetable starts an indefinite period of time. That makes everybody look good without actually doing anything and anyone who studies Middle East politics knows this. Have I studied Middle East politics. No Am I an expert at it no have I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. No so how do I know this well. Because I've read the experts and I lived in the Middle East and the experts on the Middle East pointing out that when win a middle. Eastern politician proposes a timetable for something to happen. It means he doesn't want to happen but he's got to save face and that's what he does I it's just the media reporting putting on this has been atrocious. And it's all because most of the national security reporters out there either came from the Obama Administration Craciun or are friends with people from the Obama Administration. Like that idiot been roads. Who doesn't get anything right and openly bragged about lying to the American people to try to get the Iran deal passed? I WANNA play this media. Montage of the media heralding Barack Obama the conquering hero. By getting the Iran deal passed a deal he could not even get the Senate to ratify because of the objections of Democrats. Let's not forget that The the Iran deal it's called the Iran deal and not the Iran treaty. Because Barack Obama did not have an of Democrat votes in the Senate to get it passed today. The United States has has reached a historic understanding with Iran but we have a historic opportunity to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons. Ron has also agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history. We rallied the world. Impose the toughest sanctions sanctions in history. We're following the breaking news here of this historic understanding with Iran It is definitely an historic Moment I it is It's a historic agreement. Frankly I historic understanding in quote. Good deal but there is of course still much work to be done. A lot of what happened today does not happen everyday this historic deal on a historic day. Even though it's not done yet this historic day and international relations and this potentially historic deal. So it is a very very historic deal and it changes. It has the potential if we do the deal on June thirtieth of changing the way global gravity works. I don't want to this moment go buy. It is a historic thing. We are witnessing a framework for a historic deal. This is the most strictly governed nuclear accord of any nuclear program ever in history. This is a masterful chess player. Back back in the game. It President Obama has done a masterful job. The president has handled this brilliantly. Elliot Louis in moving that needle. It's an extraordinarily difficult needle. But he's moving and it's breathtaking to watch. The president has put a plan on the table. That controls trolls it for fifteen years. It's a fabulous piece of work so this is indeed an historic day. It is historic no doubt an historic day. Hey coming up the historic framework indeed an historic day. You Bet we've got more news on today's historic deal with historic potential deal. We'll have more on this historic a gay star news out of Switzerland head the Republican reaction his start nuclear agreement and today's agreement is historic. Probably the biggest breakthrough who in this agreement today. Iran agreed to an unprecedented level of inspection. Such a deal has never been negotiated in the history of the nuclear age before this was a story. Opportunity President Obama to historic breakthrough. This is a big historic moment. Major start moment. How his stark is this? If it's digs in June and it should. It be anticipated June. This biggest Nixon goes to China. It changes the game. America is back after a lot of bad years. America's IT changes the game. Now let's play Secretary State. Mike Pompeo who made the Sunday talk show rounds yesterday but male by the way West Point Grad This is the first time going back before Reagan. Where the Secretary of State and secretary of defense or both West Point grads Here's Pompeo we suffered from eight years of Herreni's support from America. We gave them billions of dollars. We gave them resources. We allowed come to countries to trade with them to build up their economy enemy. What we are now having to correct for is the enormous economic activity that took place during this Iranian nuclear deal the president trump Riley got out up in May of two thousand eighteen? It's taking a little bit of time and it will continue to take time but we're going to restore deterrence we. We just had a big hill to climb up chuck We'd seen hundreds the thousands of people killed in Sierra millions. Have to depart the region we'd Sane Lebanese Hezbollah Hamas the PJ in Gaza Strip all of these terror organizations Shia militias the Shia militias that we are now challenge to push back against it. They all underwritten by American policy in the Obama Administration. We've flipped the switch. We're training those resources. Just going to protect an American keep American people curious Ya and the media is blowing him up for saying that and again the reason it is very simple you gotta remember that the Obama Administration used reporters to sell the Iran. Deal remember in two thousand eleven. When Barack Obama wanted to withdraw from Iraq The media was justifying it in every way they possibly could justify removal of American soldiers from Iraq. Because Barack Obama said so and now suddenly the media doesn't want to do that. I I I WANNA read you a couple of things just to really drive this point home on and if you want to go to the resurgent Dot Com Tom. I've I've got the piece at the resurgent. You can follow the links. It's near the top of the site but I want to take you back to the CNN story from two thousand six Two Thousand Two Thousand Fifteen Yes yes yes yes Two Thousand Fifteen CNN From Davos Switzerland Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday. Hey that some of the money Iran receives sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists when asked about whether some of the one hundred fifty billion dollars is in sanctions. Relief to Iran would go to terrorist. Groups carry reiterated that after settling debts Iran would receive closer to fifty five billion dollars. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists saying there was nothing the United States could do to prevent that. I think some of it will end up in the hands of the Iranian Revolutionary National Guard Corps or other entity some of which are labelled terrorists Utah to some degree. I'm not GonNa sit here and tell you that. Every component of that can be prevented so in other words the money would go to terror groups the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has belie and others. And then there's another story. This is from two thousand fifteen again. The headline from politico the secret back story of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook in its determination to secure a nuclear deal with Iran. The Obama Administration derailed ambitious law enforcement campaign targeting drug trafficking by the iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah even as it was funneling cocaine into the United States. The campaign dubbed Project CASSANDRA was launched in two thousand eight after the Drug Enforcement. Agency amassed evidence Hezbollah had transformed itself from a middle at least focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believe was collecting a billion dollars a year from drug and weapons trafficking money laundering other criminal activities over the next eight years agents working out of a top secret. Da Facility in chantilly. Virginia used wiretaps undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah's illicit networks with help of thirty US and foreign security agencies agencies. They followed cocaine shipments from Latin America to West Africa onto Europe in the Middle East and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They track the river of dirty cash. As it was laundered by among other tactics buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. Then with the help of some key cooperating witnesses the agents traced the conspiracy they believed to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran. But as this project CASSANDRA reached higher into the heirarchy of the conspiracy Obama administration officials through an increasingly insurmountable series of roadblocks. It's way according to interviews with dozens of participants who in many cases spoke for the first time about event shrouded in secrecy and a review of government documents in court. Court records when project CASSANDRA leader sought approval for some significant investigations. Prosecutions arrested financial sanctions officials at the Justice and Treasury departments delayed into rejected rejected their requests. Why because Obama wanted a deal with Iran? Let me read you this paragraph the Justice Department decline requests by project CASSANDRA and other authorities to file criminal charges against major players such as Hezbollah's high profile file on to Iran. Ah Lebanese bank that allegedly laundered billions in alleged drug profits and a central player in a US based cell L. of Iranian paramilitary cuts force. That's right a U. S. based cell of Iranian paramilitary cuts force. WHO's in charge of codes? That would be well was so lemony and the United States of America under Barack Obama Obama. Shut down the whole investigation. Made it close up in made them stop going after paramilitary forces of Iranians in the united needed states. Why because they were so desperate for a nuclear deal with Iran? This is really damning stuff. It is just absurd that they would do this. And by the way a part of this you need to know John Brennan John Brennan who goes out of his way to attack the president. John Brennan said he wanted to build up moderate elements within Hezbollah the still in the politico article. Hezbollah's very interesting organization. Brennan told a Washington conference saying it had evolved from a purely terror terrorist organization to a militia ultimately a political party three with representatives in the Lebanese parliament. There are certainly the element of Hezbollah that are truly a concern for us with what they're doing and what we need to do is find ways to diminish their influence and try got a build up more moderate elements in practice the administration's willingness to envision a new role for has blond the Middle East combined with its desire for a negotiated Goshi aided settlement to Iran's nuclear program translated into a reluctance to move aggressively against top Hezbollah operatives. There's your Barack Obama Administration. This is the administration that the media is defending. This is the administration. That could do no wrong. This is the administration that negotiated the Iran deal where the Iranians by the way were keeping their into the nuclear deal. The media is almost celebratory today that Iran has said. They're no longer going to honor the two thousand fifteen Iran deal on nuclear weapons. It's all donald trump's while they weren't doing it in the beginning they were doing. According to process the Iranians were not complying and this is all to protect their precious. Barack Obama was the precious. The media is is emotionally invested in the mythology of a scandal. Free Obama Administration it. It is an administration that's at billions of dollars to Iran so that Iran could build up terror cells around the world including here in the United States and then denied the ability of law enforcement of the United States to go after them. If there isn't a keep keep that that story in mind from politico if something God forbid bad bad does happen quickly here in the United States as an Iranian response keep in mind we knew in the Obama administration there were Iranian paramilitary cells in the United States and they stopped the DA. From going after them they stopped law enforcement from going after them now they expelled them supposedly from the United States but they were here and the Obama Administration refused to aggressively go after through legal means because they were desperate for a deal. They wanted the deal so bad they never bothered to assess whether or not the deal was good. They knew the media would sell whatever they came up with so they didn't even have to get a good deal. The just had to get the deal and it would be heralded his life changing historic game changing. And that's exactly what the media did and it's all starting to unravel again. We have intelligence. The General Qassam Salamone was organizing a major a plot against the United States. Do you recall that. The media attacked George W Bush because George W Bush in the eight months on C.. Was In office before nine eleven did not put together. All of the Clinton administration intelligence all of the the nebulous and obscure intelligence. All Strung along in different directions. He was not able to put that together and say Aha nine. Eleven's coming we gotTA stop it but here comes president trump with all of this intelligence about the Iranians planning something big against the United States. So big that Sola. Money's got to fly to Iran and and get the title is permission and the very media that attacked George W Bush for not stringing the indeed putting all the intelligence together and stopping nine eleven is now attacking Donald Trump for. We're putting all the intelligence together and stopping till maybe they attacked George W Bush for not accurately reading the tea leaves. They're attacking Donald Trump for accurately reading the tea leaves. And it's all all about protecting the legacy of the Obama Administration. Our media in the United States is more emotionally invested in beating Donald trump than accurately reporting on. What's going on in the Middle East and that should be appalling to all of us? There are some really good journalists out there who are trying to play it straight and they are overwhelmed by even the New York Times respected expected reporter on American intelligence saying hey this probably was about impeachment. They are just out to get the president. They're not out to get the truth. Welcome back if if you would like to be a part of the program. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. That's eight seven seven nine seven three three seven four to five Happy take your phone calls on this and the other news of the day When we come back at the top of the hour I want to spend some time on some Georgia Georgia News? Brian Kemp is willing to talk about altering the tax credits for the Hollywood film industry. Here in Georgia Among other things Kelly Leffler is going to be sworn in today vice president pence as well. We will talk about all that Somebody who is waiting on this this is this is entirely frustrating Australia to me the NBA in in in various woke athletes. Colin Kaepernick refuse refused to take a position on the Chinese situation with Hong Kong and China operating concentration camps. The Chinese actually do operate concentration camps for Christians Muslims and other ethnic minorities. There you either die or you embrace communism in these concentration camps. The Chinese situation situation in Hong Kong is starting to turn violent the protesters in Hong Kong and the Chinese police increasingly escalating. Tensions there and whether you're talking about Steve Kerr the NBA Colin Colin Kaepernick. The like it's complicated that they can offer an opinion on it because it's complicated and yet somehow Middle Eastern turmoil is not complicated and they're all willing to condemn the president a Colin Kaepernick Basically saying in the United States has always gone after his black and Brown brothers in the Middle East and and it's appalling trying to turn it into a racist. Colin Kaepernick is not a smart man. Easy I mean. This is an exceedingly arrogant man who is also a dim bulb. Ricky your vase or whatever his name is at the Golden Globes last last night savaging Hollywood telling them not to take political positions in their speeches because they're less educated than Greta Thunberg and of course they did they got up and defended abortion rights. And the like Doc But but same with Cabernet. He's not a bright man and Nike. NELL subsidizes entire existence. They it is based on the left logic. It is safe to say that it is Nike. That is taking the position that Donald Trump committed a racist attack in Iraq. Because that that's their their lead figure Colin Kaepernick. That's his position. If you're a Christian you take a stance on The the Alphabet Gang that favors Christian Orthodoxy over the Alphabet Game Community. Nike's going to drop you in a heartbeat but if you attack the United States as an athlete for Nike they're okay with it the NBA won't wager an opinion on on China and Hong Kong and concentration camps in China. But if you want to attack the American military or Donald Trump God bless bless you the NBA is happy to have you. It is incredibly offensive and it is all part of well part of it is trump derangement syndrome but part of it as well is just. The media is totally in the tank for the left these days unless you listen to CNN. Here's Brian Staedtler and David but from door to you the country as his enemies. How can you lead a united nation to work? He has been talking about hating the state of New York. And things like that recently. You said on this program. I'm a year ago that relative to his performance trump actually gets really favourable flattering news coverage. There should be more critical. Do you believe that. Yeah No. It's just it's just amazing. I mean there is a a whole network that exists to support the president's EGO needs And and on the networks like this one that tried to be tried to be fair Look there are generous contracts page people who will come on. CNN's air to defend the president. And I understand why you do that. But it's not it's not a favor he would ever return to you you no you know actually. CNN has mostly got rid of all of the pro-trump voices In fact I used to be on. CNN and They rarely have me on anymore anymore. Ever since I said I would support the president. It's bizarre George Issues. Though when we come back I don't even need to read a script for this. Quip is my sponsor this week for the podcast and I don't need to read a script because I'm a user I've been a longtime user of whip. I love quip. If you don't know what quip is. It is an electric toothbrush. It only takes just a AAA battery and they send you the AAA batteries. Don't even have to get AAA battery. Every three months on a subscription get a new brush head to keep your brush it up to date. It pulses every thirty seconds so you can even even clean for two minutes and your mouth at turns itself off. 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Eight seven seven nine seven three seven seven four to five glad to have you with me. Look I want to get back into the Casella money. The F- The fallout from him. There are a number of things that have happened but there is some Georgia News as well I I spent the entire first hour on the salamone. fallout and I WANNA get into some Georgia news here. You're now we will circle back to that. I'm happy to take your phone calls on the issue. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five There is some news though you need to know a federal judge Steve Jones. He's actually an Obama. Appointee has ruled that Stacey Abrams Voting Rights Advocacy Group Is improperly asking him to interpret. State Law The judge Steve Jones own said the group has it proved that people who've been removed from the voter rolls. There are one hundred thousand people removed by brands. Burger sectors He Their constitutional rights have not been violated. He did order the secretary of state to do more to warn people that they've been removed now he singled out a southwest Georgia state. House district worried January twentieth special election is scheduled voters there who've been removed have only until Monday to reregister her That deadline has passed the stories actually from last week so the deadline has passed now. He Rafts Burger. You'll recall the secretary's day order. Three hundred thirteen thousand people off the roles of more than half those people actually were able to be confirmed to have either moved to a different county and their original county they were deregistered registered or they moved out of state or died. We were able to confirm those things. the others The Secretary of State's office tried to contact them. Try to give them notice and they were never able to find him. Some came forward and were saved but the overwhelming majority of them over one hundred thousand of them never heard from Stacey Abrams. CBS Group went into court and tried to block it. Get a court order saying that. The Secretary of state could not throw those people off the voter registration rolls and by the way this is is a lawsuit. The Democrats have done in Georgia. The they did it in two thousand thirteen and two thousand fifteen. They tried to prevent this from happening. All the Republicans are doing is complying with a state law passed by Democrats Democrats and yet they do this every time because again mythology has become so important to the American public. You know what he'll okay pause. Yes I am going to move back to Sola meaning indirectly tangentially. I'm still aggravated in aggravated. Because as I like him and and they have apologized. And that frustrates me. That there has been no apology I WANNA go back to to the audio. I played last week for meet the press. It happened over Christmas The weekend before Christmas. This is chuck todd reading a letter to the editor on uh-huh on meet the press. I wanted you guys a letter to the editor that we found in the Lexington Herald leader. It was fascinating attempt to try to explain why Some people support for president trump. Here's what he says. People support trump. It's because people have been trained from childhood to believe in Fairy Tales. This set their minds up to accept things that make them feel good the more fairy tales than lies. He tells the better they feel. Show me a person who believes in Noah's Ark and I will show you a trump voter I it gets at something Dane that my executive producer likes to say. Voters want be lied to. Sometimes they don't. They don't always loved being told hard truths they don't like being told her truth. They like like being lied to. y'All this morning it started yesterday a care the the radical Islamic group in DC started. A rumor rumer started a conspiracy theory that customs and border patrol ear rounding up Iranian Americans including Americans who are Iranian descent is it customs and border patrol or rounding them up and detaining them members of Congress Democratic members of Congress Barbara Lee and others have started recirculating recirculating. This rumor that customs and Border Patrol are rounding up iranian-americans and customs comes in border patrol. Actually had to get on social media and say this isn't true and other conservatives have come out and and other reporters have come out built and said this is it true and you know the response from the left prove it. That's the response from the left is prove it prove the negative. Prove that what we say. Is it happening or approved that what we say is happening isn't actually happening. How how do you prove that the authorities have come out and said it isn't happening? Reporters have come out and said it isn't happening conservatives. Come out and said it isn't happening. The trump administration has come out and said they've never given disorder. No one has come forward to say. They've been detained and yet the left accepts it as fact that is happening and when you tell them it's not true they say will prove it approve. It's not true and yet it's Chuck Todd and meet the Press and various folks that CNN and the editorial pages of newspapers across the country who are lecturing Americans on how trump voters want to be lied to trump voters believe mythology in trump voters. They they need the myth they need need the lie. They can't handle the truth. Donald Trump doesn't like the truth. They can't handle the truth. Is this is. This is circulated in the media. This is a lecture remember. CNN headed a whole ad campaign on apples versus bananas and and this is an apple. This is an apple you can tell me. It's a banana you can tell me all day. It's a banana but it's not a bananas and apples see this was CNN's and campaign and they lecture Republicans constantly on being lied to and yet here comes the left here come democratic radic members of Congress lying to the public circling conspiracy theories Alex Jones s conspiracy theories but it's only Republicans wouldn't be lied to his holy early Republicans. Who Need to be lectured about the truth? You have the media defending Sulejmani Elizabeth. Warren actually came out last week and called the murderer in a terrorist and the left got so mad at her. She had to walk it back. I kid you not over the weekend. Elizabeth Warren had to walk back her criticisms of Sola money say that he was as a murderer and a terrorist and said she had the trump administration she could not go forward With her criticisms of Sulejmani a murderer. She couldn't do it because the left got mad at her for telling the truth about him. Now you've got the intelligence community has come out the Joint Chiefs of staff the Secretary of Defense Secretary of state the the high ranking within the CIA and the national security apparatus of the United United States All Saints Sulejmani was planning something big against the United States so big in fact according to the New York Times he had to go get permission from the Ayatollah Khamenei to actually carry gary out whatever he wanted to do. The Democrats say we don't see evidence of this. What where's the evidence? We should question the intelligence for three years. They've been yelling at Donald Trump for questioning the intelligence community and suddenly it's fair game to to question the intelligence community because Donald Trump put points on the board. Here's here's Joe Biden. The question is was the risk of assassinated netted him worth or if in fact it turns out ahead no evidence that there was a planned major attack. It's an assassination if there is and we don't know yet if there was an immediate threat that he posed and something's going to happen then it wasn't an assassination. Yeah well it wasn't but Joe Biden's not willing to believe the intelligence community and you know well. Here's Elizabeth Warren in her crazy conspiracy theory. That's now been picked picked up by reporters and I think the question that we ought to focus on is why now you know why not a month ago. Why not a month from now and the answer from the Administration seems to be? They can't keep their stories straight on this. They pointed in all different directions. And you know the last time we watched them do. This was the summer over Ukraine. As soon as people started asking about the conversation between Donald Trump and the president of Ukraine and why aid had had been held up to Ukraine the administration did the same thing they pointed in all directions about what was going on and of course what emerged in is this was donald so trump just trying to advance donald trump's own political agenda not the agenda The United States of America. So what happens right now next week week. The president of the United States could be facing an impeachment trial in the Senate. We know he's deeply upset about that and I think people are unreasonably asking. Why this moment why does he hit now to take this highly inflammatory? Highly dangerous injuries action that moves US closer to war. We've been at war for twenty years in the Middle East. We need to stop the war in the Middle East not expand the and Senate so Elizabeth Warren on with Jake Tapper suggesting the president conducted the strike on Sulamani to distract from impeachment. In fact Jake Tapper. I cut him off. I pushed the button. I shouldn't have jake. Tapper actually says senator or are you suggesting that not expand. Are you suggesting the president trump pulled the trigger and had Qassam Sulamani killed as a distraction from his from impeachment. Look I think people people are reasonably asking about the timing and why it is that the administration seems to have all kinds of different answers. Yeah believe the lie. Believe the lie but it's only Republicans do that. By the way Chris Wallace asked Mike Pompeo. Some analysts suggest that the impeachment of president trump has emboldened enemies like Iran and North Korea To think that they can confront him. Do you think that as misguided is guided as it may be that some of our enemies think that this president is more vulnerable because of the impeachment effort. You should ask Mr Sylla Mani Yup. Yup ESCOLA money if if the president's distracted by impeachment in your war and say oh he did because of impeachment they wanNA believe them analogy. It's only Republicans who get lectured by the press on believing lies but there are lots of Democrats and progressive activist. Who WanNa believe the lies? Now let me pull this full circle away from Iraq and back to Georgia. You have a national democratic establishment and activist Davis here in Georgia. Who believed the lie that Stacey Abrams had the election stolen from her? Hillary Clinton is on the record with that Elizabeth. Warren is all the record that various reporters are on the record with that. There's no evidence of it and they see the story about one hundred thousand people being throughout the roles Georgia because they can't be found by the way it turns out the you know the AJC Another the WSB TV out of Atlanta. The Secretary of State's Office for the first time gave a list gave out a list of all the people who are going to be thrown off the roles and the the WSB TV in Atlanta went out into the precincts in the Atlanta area that we're going to be most impacted where most of the people were going to be thrown off the rules and they wit house by House on the list of find the people who are going to be thrown all the roles into you know what they found and they were dead people. That's why they didn't respond the overwhelming majority of the people that WSB TV tried to find were dead and others couldn't be found. They don't if they moved. They don't know if they're in jail. They'll know if they're in the hospital. What but there? Most of them are dead. And there's a mythology. Not on the left that Stacey Abrams. The race was stolen from Stacey Abrams the audacity of of stealing the race from Abrahams. They want to believe the lie. Why and here comes a federal judge? Obama appointed federal. Judge say. nope can't do it. Sorry I can't tell the secretary of state not to throw those people the roles he has legitimate reasons under the wall to throw them off the rolls and yet now. Suddenly he's a collaborator. With Republicans stealing the vote from Stacey Abrams. Listen there's a real problem in the United States right now with truth and it's on both sides let let's let let let us be honest with it. There are or Republicans out there. There are trump supporters who believe lies but there are a lot of Democrats who do as well. It is human nature to believe the lie. That makes you feel good over the truth. That makes you not it feel good. It's not a partisan issue as much as the media everything these days is shaped in the press as partisanship but it's not. It's human nature human human nature. We want to believe the lie when your significant other asks you if they look fat and you say no I mean listen. She sheds survival people. Baby a bad example but you get my boy. People want to believe ally people do want to believe the lie. And there's nothing new about it. But in this partisan age the media obsessively compulsively makes it all about Donald trump soul. Donald Trump's fault. This is something new a no brock. Obama lied repeatedly heatedly but the media never held him accountable for it. And these voter issues. Here in Georgia was Stacey Abrams. The the Democrats have lied repeatedly. Easley about that loss. I talked to a reporter. Who told me this is a a Georgia based reporter highly respected reporter who I would say? It'll probably is slightly centre-left city new Stacey. Abrams was GONNA lose and he knew she was going to lose. Because shortly before the election a major hurricane comes to the state of Georgia wiping out homes and crops in south Georgia devastating farmers sending ending mini into bankruptcy increase in suicides in south Georgia and farmers who are barely making it together putting it together to hurricane wipes out their livelihoods their families their homes their crops increase in suicides and what does Abrahams do. She goes down to South Georgia and she tells people they don't have to work on farms or in the hospitality. Industry can go do something else. They can improve their their lives. Insults farmers insult the agriculture community in Georgia. And he said you know what she's GonNa lose because that there's a tone deafness they're one of the few reporters to to call. Bs on the National Media Story but national reporters. They're not here. They don't hear those reports they don't talk to those reporters that they don't understand they don't know. And so they believe the media mythology peddled by Democrats whether it's about the Iran situation whether it's about the Stacey Abrams situation whether it's about Brian in Kippen fetal heartbeat and it's GonNa cost him his career and the Republicans control of Georgia. They want to lecture you and me on line and believing lies and yet they are willfully willfully willfully willing to believe anything. Other than the truth it is Eric Erickson here. The Ericsson show. I am happy to take your phone calls the phone number. If you'd like to be a part of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four two five life. There is other news in the state we need to get to beyond the Stacey. Abrams stuff. Kelly Leffler is going to be sworn in today by the vice-president. I'm trying to get an interview scheduled with Kelly. Leffler her staff actually has reached out to me And we'll as I'll let you guys know you know if you want to sign up for alerts get the podcast cast of the show or even my daily email That covers a lot of the stuff we talked about on the show. If you text the word show two three three seven seven seven You you can get signed up. Here's one I find somewhat humorous Met Lieberman is so far. He's the only declared Democratic Democratic challenger to Kelly. Leffler Lieberman is He is the son of Joe Lieberman. Matt Lieberman is very progressive. He was the headmaster of a school in Atlanta. He's come out very strongly against the president taking a very hard line progressive position and well. I was thought it was very funny to read this today. President Trump's order to take out Qassim Sulejmani was morally constitutionally in strategically not really correct. It deserves more bipartisan support than the begrudging or negative reactions it has received thus far from my fellow Democrats. The president's decision decision was bowled an unconventional. It's understandable that the political class should have questions about it but it isn't understandable understandable that all the questions are being raised by Democrats and all the praises coming from Republicans that divided response suggests the partisanship that has infected and disabled so much of us. Domestic policy now also determines our elected leaders responses to major foreign policy Vincent National Security the issues even the killing of man responsible for murdering hundreds of Americans in planning to kill thousands more after world. War Two senator Arthur through Vandenberg and Michigan Republican who is chairman of the foreign relations. Committee formed a bipartisan partnership with President. Truman that helps secure the postwar peace and greatly strengthen America's America's position in the Cold War politics stops at the water's edge. Said Vandenberg asked why he worked so closely with a Democratic president. He added that his fellow Americans it's undoubtedly had ernest honest even vehement differences of opinion on foreign policy. But if we can keep partisan politics at a foreign affairs of his entirely obvious that we I shall speak with infinitely greater authority abroad and they're uniformly skeptical negative reactions to slow money's death. Democrats are falling well below Vandenberg Standard Tonight fear creating the risk that the US will be seen as acting and speaking with less authority abroad at this important time. That's Joe Lieberman. Former vice presidential candidate for the Democrat senator from in Connecticut friend of John McCain and father of the progressive candidate. George Matt Lieberman. Who Run for the Senate wonder what he thinks about his dad's op Ed? It is here accent here. We're happy to hear from you. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Let's see my computer monitor. decided to turn off. Now it's back on. I can see everything. The governor has decided he is willing to work with lawmakers on trimming trimming the tax incentives for film in Georgia. Now yet. Let me let me put this inflict. This is a this is a big issue here in the state of Georgia. For those of you. Who are out of Georgia? The Georgia has a thriving film industry. It has a thriving film industry in part because the state created tax credits for businesses in Georgia That help offset the the cost of filming in Georgia's it's fairly cheap to film in Georgia and a lot of businesses. Get incentives for four films happening in Georgia. A A lot of places in Georgia have become film studios I I know of a beer distributorship here in Georgia that actually built had some land on on their their lot and they made it paddy and they built a facility at the beer distributorship for Hollywood to use for filming and it. It's now it's it's it's a film L. Location but it's at a at a it's at a distributorship for for liquor and beer down south of the Atlanta Airport Tyler Tyler. Perry has renovated a massive facility to use for filming. And what we're D- The marvel studios pin would pinewood the big facility in. London has a facility south of Atlanta. They actually are partnered with chick-fil-a on it and Pinewood has decided to give up it's investment in it. It wants to focus a London. Pine Woods had some internal difficulties. It was kind of interesting actually after Georgia after Brian kept signed signed the fetal heartbeat legislation. Here in Georgia Pinewood Studios announced it was going to wind down. Its affiliation with the film studio south of Atlanta were all. The marvel movies has been done. Doctor Strange had been there Guardians of the galaxy the avengers infinity. Wars all all of those things were done there pinewood said it was Debbie Mac and the means to see the vehicle title Herbie legislation calls. It turned out that wasn't the case. They are actually shutting down all of their facilities globally. They've had some business difficulties in partnership squabbling. They got focus on their London facility. CHICK-FIL-A IS GONNA maintain through its third outside real estate venture. CHICK-FIL-A will maintain it or at least the Cathy family but Georgia does not have a cap on its tax credit and every state including California's attacks on its has a cap on the tax. Credit Georgia's does not and now there's members the legislature saying. Wait a second. We're at a booming economy and the governor's asking state agencies to cut three to four percent of their budgets. Why when you look at the tax credit credit We could make up three percent of Georgia's budget with the money from the film industry if we got rid of the tax credit now no one's proposing getting rid of the tax credit and But now let me read you this from the AJC governor Nathan deal treated the tax credits awarded film and TV production companies. That do business in Georgia as a prize legislative accomplishment routinely warning lawmakers not to even consider a threat to the program as some lawmakers rumble about revisiting the costly program his successor's taking a different approach in an interview with the Atlanta Journal Constitution Governor. Brian Kemp refused to rule out legislation. That could seek changes with the lucrative credits. Let's which cost the state an estimated eight hundred seventy million dollars in revenue in two thousand nineteen. Legislators passed the film tax credit to start with with so if there are some that want to review it or have reservations about it or want to add to it. That certainly is their prerogative in. We'll be glad to work with them. The governor was responding to buzz about a Georgia Tech. Study on the impact of the film tax credit. That's already set tongues wagging under the Gold Dome. Lindsey tip-ins is one of the influential. Republicans looking reducing the credits in an interview in an interview. Kim said he'd hold judgmental. Those ideas until the report is released and he chuckled at the idea of preemptively telling tip-ins or other Republicans to steer clear of the credits. I don't know if I told them that if they would even listen he said I guess probably said more than I need to have. I guess probably said more than I needed to have how supportive I've been of the I I. I have no idea what I'm reading here that citizens I guess what he's tried to the agency MIS transcribed is He's been supportive of the industry. It's kind of hard to weigh in onto haven't seen I've been around long enough to know there's agenda driven reports and it's true now all of this got started just to put this in perspective. A A kennesaw state report from economist respected economists at Kennesaw state said that the state of Georgia the Department of Economic Development has been overstating. How how much the film tax credits Preussen Georgia? Here's let let me give you the the basic parameters here. It's been awhile since I used to do this as a lawyer and I don't anymore and I'm not an expert on the film tax credits but essentially you. You produce a movie in Georgia and it costs x. x to to do the production in Georgia. The you get to deduct that money from your taxes and it's actually it's Georgia tax payers typically who do it and and essentially what happens. Is You have groups in Georgia that have started as investment deals. They'll cover costs for film industry up to to a certain point and then they will be able to take a tax credit for that amount of money in Profit it's become there's an investing angle angle in here. It's not just the cost of doing filters investment angle here that doesn't really get appreciated. And frankly and maybe I should have on Chris Burner someone to explain this because e- e- does not in my wheelhouse. I've got several friends of mine in the film industry. Though who do point out that there is film business that comes to Georgia because the tax credit Georgia makes it financially feasible to do a film in Georgia Instead of doing in California where the costs have gotten out of control it becomes very cheap to do it in Georgia Georgia's become the number two film location the country outside of California's a result of the tax credit these film industry and TV studios. They save money on coming to Georgia. That's why they're so many any production houses at the same time. You also have to remember that there are more films and TV shows in production worldwide. Right now there are sound stages what that means. Is that if Georgia decided to not have as much of a tax credit as it has right now the film and TV industry industry could not stop working in Georgia overnight because there isn't enough sound stage presence anywhere in the world to cover everything that Apple Amazon netflix afflicts Hulu the the standard networks. Hbo Hbo Max. Whatever they're calling it all the others what they WANNA do? There's just there's simply not enough space available right now so you get rid of the tax credit overnight and film industry is not going away. No one wants to get rid of the film tax credit in Georgia because they do recognize your ears the justification for it a company comes into Georgia and they pay a million dollars in taxes in Georgia to do their their film. Well Georgia gives them a credit for that million dollars so they don't actually pay the tax. What then happens is is they bring in caterers and the caterers have to pay taxes? The caters would not otherwise. Have this work. So the caterers are generating economic Tax Revenue for the state. They bring in extras. The extras get some small payment They pay taxes on that small payment that generates income to the state You get the the drivers you get the fuel tax. They're filling up their cars So you get the fuel tax you get all these other streams of tax tax revenue. You would not have but for the movie coming in now. The argument from the economists will the argument from the film tax. Credit people is that Georgia makes so much money off of the taxes. The caterer pays taxes the extras pay the taxes to get in the fuel tax the taxes. That all the other employees get into the income tax that that exceeds the amount of money Georgia's saving so this agency report says for example It costs the state. Eight hundred seventy million dollars in revenue. But what the film industry would argue is that so many people get employment in so many jobs are created that even though they don't get the eight hundred seventy million dollars dollars in taxes from the film industry. They're getting eight hundred seventy million dollars plus from all the other stuff that was created a lot of people people in government take a zero sum game on this so the film industry a we're losing eight hundred seventy million dollars on them. We get rid of the tax credit. They're going to pay eight hundred seventy million dollars. That's not true. You get rid of the film Tax Credit Georgia. What you're going to see is a good portion of the film industry is going to disappear so instead of the eight hundred seventy million dollars you may get ten million dollars? Well okay the film industry in Georgia we lose eight hundred seventy million dollars in the tax credit but we gain a billion dollars overall so a billion minus eight hundred seventy three million. That different is suddenly. The amount of money Georgia's actually making overall in taxes. So it ends up not only breaking even turning a profit for the state of Georgia because the caterer who now has a job the the painter who now has a job the carpenter who has a job the transport guy who now has a job the transport company with the cars who have jobs the extras who have jobs all those those things wind up paying for the tax credit. Now here's the problem. The tax credit is now eight hundred seventy million dollars in two thousand nineteen. Georgia doesn't have a cap and because Georgia doesn't have a cap that number goes up every year and at some point there's a diminishing returns earns. You're not actually creating as many jobs in the state in generating as much economic Business in the state as you're losing. So what Lindsey Tippers and others in the state wonder do is what every other state of the Union has has done and that's set a cap on the film tax credit on how much you paid paid out now. My suggestion. Is this cap. It where it is if you want to scale back a little skillet back a little but everyone agrees George. He has a very large Tax Cut Right now. So Senate cap I if it if it's eight hundred seventy million dollars in revenue that the state says it didn't get because is the tax credit in two thousand nineteen. There's really not a lot of dispute that were still generating more economic income for the state because of that film don't tax credit so cabinet eight hundred million dollars. Say No more in anything because we're still going to grow the film industry Georgia's GonNa continue to grow in the reason the film industry Georgia's GonNa continue to grow as it. Let's see let me. I can't count them all. But there's Amazon. There's Hulu there's apple there's Disney there's netflix there's universal NBC There is the comcast is universal. NBC There's Hbo Max from at and T.. There's going to be a new showtime time streaming service you've got the CBS streaming service Who else is out there? I guess. ABC Disney so. They don't count. FX Is no Disney so they you don't count a missing several there's that Pluto when CBS is about to start a new one. That's also going to have a news component to compete with Fox News News on the conservative side There are several others out there you've got all of these streaming services many of them not just do. TV shows but films you've got Disney. Doing films is apple. Doing Films Amazon. Doing Films Netflix doing films. Hulu Dude films you you get my point. There's not enough space in the world right now to film all the stuff so you cap the credit Georgia where it is or even reduce it slightly. It's still going to be higher than anywhere else in the country. There's not enough film studio. Oh space in the entire world for these production houses to say you know what we're not GonNa go to Georgia now because they've kept their film tax credit or the fetal rb legislation that that that's not deterring them from coming to Georgia. They're still gonNA come but cap it. That's a reasonable responsible thing to do. No no one is in favor of getting rid of the film tax credits. Well I would personally be in favor of it I suppose Given the leftward slant of Hollywood and all the hipsters they bring in but actually that's not affair I actually know a lot of people in the film industry here in Georgia who support the film industry. Who are deeply conservative and voted for Brian? Kemp and all those people punished But I also think that They're getting a really good deal. And you put a cap on it you you might as well go for. This is one of the many issues that the legislature going to deal with but it does come in light of this budgetary budgetary scenario. Were Georgia right. Now has the very best economy we've had in our history. We have the very lowest unemployment rate. We've ever had George's history and the state is still having to cut it the budget because of revenue. Now it is fair. Democrats have pointed out that the state did in fact pass a tax cut this past past legislative session. The reason though that they passed that tax cut was not to cut taxes. It's just because of the way that you will recall the federal government's Tax Cut plan went through if the state did not reciprocate by cutting state taxes. Yes the state would have had more income but it would have been because is there would be a huge tax increase on state tax payers Because the federal government stopped allowing Tax Payers to offset what they pay state taxes. You know I used to be when you paid your federal income tax you say oh. I paid two thousand dollars to the state of Georgian so you could subtract that from your federal income tax and and now. You can't do that and so Georgia had to alter the way it assesses taxes in order to avoid over fifty percent of Georgia's having a massive tax spike last year. That's why The Democrats are saying well. The Republicans cut taxes. It didn't alter the revenue in Georgia. It just presented prevented vinit a massive windfall from coming into the state from taxpayers because of the change in federal law it wasn't an actual net tax cut In fact I know a lot of people who still wanted to pay in more in state taxes because of the assessment but what the Republicans are pointing to what Lindsey tips disappointed to is is forget that nothing. In Georgia's situation. It has changed dramatically in the past few years. We're having a massive economic explosion of the state. We're having massive employment in the state and yet state. Tax Revenue is stagnant. There must be some reason in the release pointing to his tax credits like the film accredited. By the way. It's not just the film tax credit there are plenty of other tax credits in the state including jet fuel and other things that the state should look at Georgia's legislature has been great at giving individual entities in the state tax credits and that is impacting. The bottom I'm line. It is frankly ridiculous. That state agencies are having to cut their budgets when the economy is booming because the state's not seen revenue increase ace. And that suggests there's an underlying fundamental structural flaw in the way the state is assessing taxes. Right now in a lot of that has to do with the tax tax credits that the film industry and others are getting again though. We're not GONNA cut it. We're not going to get rid of it. No one wants to get rid of. The governor would veto it if they got rid of. The film tax is credit but putting a cap on it. That's common sense all right. I got a pickled my hometown newspaper I got a call them Here for those listening statewide George around the nation I I live in making it right smack in the heart of the state. Our flagship station has wg a you out of Athens leads. And then we're around the state so I- broadcast from a studio and making it gets beamed. Who are Athens station in? Athens spreads it. The Glory Ori Across the state of Georgia. But there's a chick-fil-a near me and it has been open for thirty years. It was the thirteenth Chick-fil-a freestanding chick-fil-a built in the nation in other words the chick-fil-a not in a mall and Ten years ago they did a big twenty year renovation. They closed it down well there thirty years in and they've decided to tear it. It's one of the old school chick-fil-a Where they use that ugly monitor? I hate ugly modern design and but they used that thirty years ago so they're leveling rolling it They are going to completely clear. The pad and rebuild the CHICK-FIL-A. I fell out laughing when I saw the story of the make Adela graph the headline making makings first. CHICK-FIL-A will close while it's torn down and rebuilt I. I what part of being open goes with torn down and rebuilt. I just had to laugh at that headline now l.. I pointed it out to a friend of my last night. And he says well you know those chick-fil-a people they'll be standing there serving lemonade on an empty lot and people will come by and form a line. It's like well you do have a point win. The chick-fil-a those of you who live in middle Georgia when the chick-fil-a just off the interstate Thomasson. You're making his leveled. Don't go by their air. Don't don't try to go by there will not be open Go Up to Bass Road to the one near my house. Chick-fil-a we'll close close while it's torn Dow you no way you can see the chick-fil-a zealots who are other. Listen I I loved love. Love Chick-fil-a all all the criticisms of Salvation Army and whatnot. Notwithstanding chick-fil-a is a great restaurant. Wonderful people who work there and it. It really has always had this cold. Follow it and I can totally see someone tearing down a Chick-fil-a and the CHICK-FIL-A workers still show up if only to tell people my pleasure as I passed it is a committed workforce of of good people and good food. Now we will move on. I just I had to share a Jon Ossoff Ossoff you remember him John Off ran for. US House he lost what is just as an aside. Just as an aside have view noticed that the media fixate on a group of democratic losers and. I don't mean that spiritually just they lost and turns them into conquering heroes. Stacey Abrams for example lost. The governor is Stacey. Abrams never got above the the State House leader in Georgia. She lost the governor's race. She's never done anything else yet. She's heralded as hailed as a conquering ingred hero. Jon Ossoff lost a race A special election for the sixth Congressional district in Georgia and the media and Democrats together are hailing him him as a conquering hero. He's raised a million dollars in the last three months To run against David Purdue David Purdue in the last months raise two point four million dollars and he ossoff is the national media is like oh I saw also. He's mad if he can't do it. No one you've got Theresa Tomlinson Mhm Lindzen The the the ladder climbing mayor from Columbus. You Got Ted Harry the Hipster Progressive Mayor from Clarkesville Georgia. And you've got Jon Ossoff a man who's never been elected to anything in his life and Sarah Rigs Amigo. who was the Democrats? Lieutenant Governor Governor candidate who ran a statewide race in two thousand eighteen eighteen and then I saw is now because he's raised a million dollars. I mean he does have access to money from Hollywood and others who remember him and want to help him but the Democrats. Oh Christ keep propping up the same people who can't win elections and wondering why the results are no different. I don't even need to read a script for this. Quip is my sponsor this week for the PODCAST and I. I don't need to read a script because I'm a user. I've been a longtime user of whip. I love quip. If you don't know equip is it is an electric toothbrush. 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Join three million healthy mouths by getting whipped today for just twenty five dollars get quipped dot com slash Eric. Hello and welcome. It is the final hour of the day. How you've got me all week? It's Eric Erickson here. Are the full number. You want to call in be a part of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven seven three seven four to five. We're going to leave the world of politics. Well slightly leave the world of politics. We'll we'll come back we'll circle back to everything Yeah I I do have to read you this tweet. This is Associated Press. This is like reading from the onion. Or the Babylon be this is an actual tweet. Don't get mad at me. I'm just reading you with the associated. Press says Iran's supreme leader I told Ali Khamenei wept openly at the funeral. For General Qassim. Salamone his tears give insight into how the death the commander killed in A. US strike is being felt personally by the supreme leader again. Let me read this. His tears give insight into how all the death of the commander killed in a US. Air Strike is being felt personally by the Supreme Leader and so Jeffrey Epstein Bin Laden in Sola meaty walk into a bar and the bartender says up. You're still Dylan Hill. Sorry Oh my goodness Aluminium Epstein they got some in common. They didn't kill themselves. All right. All right. We'll we'll move on to more serious matters. Oh the Media Mel. Del just reminding who these people are. I was actually. I was trading emails emails with a friend of mine last night who you would all know in the conclusion of our of our email exchange e e says you know these people people continue to how is it. The these people continue to remind us they are who we've always known they were and he was absolutely right in about an hour. Many of you will probably hear him discussing this on his radio program Okay so serious serious topic Completely off of politics the United Methodist Church. I do WANNA spend time on this topic. The United Methodist Church Church has decided to split He a divorce essentially is happening and they're trying to say it's amicable but it really actually. Isn't that amicable at this point. A the Methodist Church has been a breaking apart at the seams slowly over the last decade because of the issue of gay marriage it is actual biblical Orthodoxy Oxygen. This is going to get some of you mad. I realize we're listing I'm this is The reason I went to seminary is to be able to have these discussions with you and be informed them is Orthodox Christianity and very biblical that marriage is between a man and a woman In Genesis One god God makes man and he makes men male and female and then he joins them together in marriage and tells them what to tend the garden to be fruitful and multiply the. They're supposed to have kids and they're supposed to the garden. There's this random movement among some people in in Western churches churches now that we should stop having kids and it relieves mostly mainline progressive churches. That are already dying out Stop having more people to fill the pews That's contrary hurry to the command in Eden from God to be fruitful and multiply when The world is destroyed and flood and Noah is on the Ark and then gets off the ARC God tells no one the family after they get the art to be fruitful and multiply. He tells them to fill the earth. it is it is biblical to have kids. It is biblical to multi to grow the church. You know you don't just disciple people in in witness to people and bring them into the church you also have children and you grow the church from your family. But the Methodist Church has on this issue of family and marriage been breaking apart on the issue of do they ordain and HOMOSEXUALS TO BE MINISTERS and do they openly homosexual and do they perform gay weddings as you can imagine the the more educated and wealthier white American united. methodists are in favor of it and those American White methodist to are not upper income liberals are opposed and then the methodist of a very good job of evangelizing abroad in the Philippines pins in Africa and those United methodists have the audacity to take the Bible at its word and so they're opposed to gay marriage It is only the methodist in this country who no longer believe. The Bible is the inherent word of God. Who are totally okay with getting rid of the things? The Bible says about how to live a moral life. They they've decided decided they can do it better You know it really is just as a random aside progressive Christianity in this country Michael Kruger. He's the president at Artists Reformed Theological Seminary in Charlotte. He's got a new book out called the Ten Commandments of Progressive Christianity. And essentially he points out that gibberish mansion in Nineteen twenty-three was professor Princeton Seminary. He wrote Christianity and liberalism and he was This was a nineteen twenty-three mentioned was writing about the rise is of liberalism and mainline denominations and he said that liberal understanding of Christianity was not a variant version of Christianity was a different religion altogether. It was essentially a moralistic realistic therapeutic. Version of faith that questions Values questions over answers and being good over being right. You're supposed to live your life as a good person not as a person who's right I in the sense that you're connected to God The way he decides right and wrong is God is the ultimate authority on Truth and what is right and what is wrong and we're supposed to live our life this way well. This has been played on mainline denominations across the country Episcopalians Presbyterians United Church of Christ the main line denominations the Evangelical Jokela Lutherans. All of these denominations have something in common. They are all declining as the main line. Denominations in the country decline Kline One of the things they have in common is. They've embraced Progressive Christianity. Even some of the the the Cooperative Baptist church is you know the the baptist. Don't have the Southern Baptist Convention of the Cooperative Baptist the Cooperative Baptist for the Liberal Baptist There are several others even more fringy baptist this groups out there but they're all in decline and essentially. You don't need to go to a church believe that the Bible is just a good philosophy Lhasa in which to govern your life. There are plenty of good philosophies in which to govern your life and you don't have to go to church on Sunday and engage in corporate worship of God when you can just stay stay home and read a jolting book or whatever you want what. Watch a football game and if you get value and satisfaction and living your life that way why go to church and consequently take these mainline. Denominations are all in decline because their therapeutic self-help question all things and we should all be questioning everything and and we should be communing with of nature. That there's no point I mean the UNITARIAN Church for God's sake says you can believe in anything as long as you believe in nothing. There's a reason these are shrinking. Denominations it is actually the evangelical denominations in this country. That believe that God Israel Jesus Christ is real and the book of the Bible. The Bible and sixty six books looks are the inherent word of God. That tell you how you're supposed to live your life because you're supposed to be more Christ like in life. And that is the path salvation and the only way to salvation. These churches continue. Can you to thrive These churches are the ones that show growth. The United Methodist Church is now in this battle and it has decided to split it has decided to split because the rich wight Americans have decided they no longer want to be bound by the Bible and they want to do the things. The Bible says that can't be done openly the Bible whether you agree with it or not the Bible very explicit now with sexualities send a lot of other things are too but on this issue is where the methodist church is drawn. It's line. It'll agree in in Corinthians. Second Corinthians or First Corinthians at the end that adultery drunkenness a sentinel no longer agree with homosexuality. They've decided to redact the parts of the Bible. They disagree with and the result has been that African methodist churches and Filipino methodist churches and other Third World Churches have been joining with conservative White Christian methodist in this country to maintain gene biblical Orthodoxy and it is an increasingly hostile fight within the UNC. So they're gonNA partways now. Interestingly enough of the methodist that is passed a plan this past year that said that if a church no longer wants to maintain biblical orthodoxy. They can just they can give their property operative part ways with the UNC. Well obviously it was the good white liberals America who thought that was untenable that it should be the conservatives who were thrown out of the United Methodist Church. Not the other way around. And they've been fighting for the last year since that vote while they finally came to a compromise and the compromise. Is that if you're a committed EST who actually believes in the Bible and you don't want to have gay marriage and gay passers then you can get out and you can take your church which you can keep your property. You can get some money and just go start something new. That's what's going to happen. It's sad to see but it's also a good thing The Episcopal Church has been fighting. It's congregations over this issue. For a number of years the Episcopal Church churches on the verge of bankruptcy it is essentially now a real estate company. there've been a number of surveys based on the Klein in the episcopal church showing that the last Episcopalian in the United United States has already been born. The church has negative growth. It's holding onto some impressive properties. A but I mean as an example sample. The Falls Church in Virginia is one of the noted Episcopal churches in the nation that was conservative and it decided to leave the PISCOPO church An affiliate with the Anglican Communion which is different from the Episcopalians? The Anglicans are the conservative wing in the United States the No gay marriage wing of the Piscopo Church and so the Episcopal Church took their property back. It was a nasty lawsuit. The Anglicans wound up losing in the Episcopal Church revoked their Um the property their their church and the Bishop of the Episcopal Church actually went on record and said they'd be happy to sell it to anybody as long as it wasn't them as long as it wasn't the church it was deeply hostile. It was deeply hostile divorce and this has been happening within the episcopal church. No grace I mean for God's Sakes the Bishop of the Episcopal Church said that that that Paul abused a woman by casting demon out of her she was that woman was nuts but in any event the breaking up now this this has cultural and political impact. It actually does I said I wasn't gonNA go politics here. But they're actually does. There is more and more polling in this a country that has done worse and worse when it comes to describing who and evangelical is the Methodist Church is considered a main liners. Now how did the mainline churches get that name. Who are the mainline churches? The mainline churches are The Evangelical Lutherans the Episcopalians the Presbyterians Tyrians PC USA Presbyterian. Church United States of America. The methodists the United Church of Christ and there's one one more I've mentioned the Lutherans United Church of Christ may be one of the Churches of God. I can't remember anyway Now maybe that's it now. The reason they get that is because there was the the main line was the the rail line in Philadelphia and church rich communities the communities in Philadelphia at the time of the main line were divided essentially around their churches so you had an enclave of Episcopalian Shannon enclave of Lutheran Janet enclave of methodist yet an enclave of Presbyterians and and that rail line through all those neighborhoods and so it was described those were described as the main lies. They were the original denominations within the United States. So the baptists were not there The PC USA or the PA.. That I'm I'm in sprung out of the PC USA in response response to the PC USA liberalism it used to be the Presbyterian Church United States And now it's the church in America and the PC USA and my goodness they're all sorts of other smaller Presbyterian groups the AARP the Orthodox the evangelical respiratory is a Presbyterians. Basically they split and and form new denominations all the time much. Looks like Baptist Split inform you churches all the time you got the first Baptist the Second Baptist Third Baptist the the the Infinity Baptist Church so the Baptist the the the Anglicans now and now this new group of of Methodist pentecostals the assemblies of God and others. They're considered evangelical churches. They are churches that believe in in the fundamentals. The Bible that the Bible is the word of God it is to be taken literally where it is to be intended interpreted literally. Jesus Christ had a physical birth of Virgin in a physical resurrection from the grave. Those those sorts of things the mainline churches more and more getting away from that. The problem is that there are a lot of people who self identify as evangelical in this country. But they don't go to church. It hid has become an ethnic identifier. There are a lot of evangelical who when you ask them where they are on a Sunday there in their bass boat out on lake. Toba off year leaks in clear lake oconee or Lake Burton Burton or any of the other lake storage like black shirt and they're out fishing on a Sunday. It's an ethnic identifier much like the media uses Catholic as doesn't ethnic identifier. These days a Catholics tend to be northerners who identify as as having some church background Jews identify as is an ethnic background these days and evangelical does. Here's the interesting data. The more person regularly goes to church the less like they they look like the world there are all sorts of Barna surveys and Pew Surveys and others that show that evangelical in this country have the same divorce rate as the rest of the country They a they believe in pretty much the same thing except when it comes to gay marriage and abortion they identify exactly like everyone else in the world and in fact there was all let data in two thousand sixteen that showed that evangelical supported Donald Trump overwhelmingly Because they're essentially southern conservatives but what's so interesting is when you actually ask how regularly someone goes to church. Do you know that the more likely a person goes to church. The less likely they are to be divorced. The more regularly person goes to church the less likely they are to support immigration restriction. ISM The more more often a person goes to church the less likely they are to believe in gay marriage. The more a person goes to church the less likely they are to engage in cultural liberalism. mm-hmm the big difference between really gels and self-described evangelical or the ones who actually go to church and believes the Bible's the word of God. Behave completely completely differently from everyone else. So when you hear that the divorce rate among evangelicals is the same as as non churchgoers that's true among self-described evangelical but among evangelicals who are in church every week. It's fundamentally not true. The people who go to church tend to believe in the Bible and this is where where we are with United Methodist Church. The last of the mainline congregations in this country to embrace gay marriage the UMC is going to divide in. The United Methodist Church is going to become the liberal wing of the Methodist Church in the United States that will support gay marriage and Ordain gay ministers and there are plenty of them. Say No it's not going to happen to my church. I'm GonNA stick with you. It's going to happen you. We'll be made to care and that will begin the decline of the United Methodist Church in this country in which you will find is a very vibrant community of people who have left for the UNC to maintain methodism as their denomination but leave the U. M. C. over Biblical orthodoxy. And that denominations going to thrive and you will see. Those people call now not being identified anymore. Mainline Christians but that'll begin to shape. The dynamics of who describes themselves as evangelical in this country for the pollsters. And you'll start seeing that work. Its way into politics. It's GONNA be fascinating dynamic to watch over the next three to five years. Hello there is so Alan. Sanders texted me and said that I was laughing about the chick-fil-a earlier near me in making that it's going to be closed and torn down and The newspaper headline was hang on. Let me get the headline right. Because I just found it very very funny The headline was makings first. Chick-fil-a we'll close while it's torn down and rebuilt built and I thought of course it's going to close while it's torn down but Allen text me and he says are Chick-fil-a Closest to us off main street and Carter's Ville did something similar were. They raised the old building to the ground took four months to build a new one but they had people set up from the store with limited menu items in hot box containers every day for lunch and they had lying six days a week. That's just crazy. This is what I'm talking about the commitment of the Chick-fil-a people what one more thing on the issue of of Evangelical in America is actually actually subject. I'm deeply fascinated by being one identified as one Being in seminary Now preaching more than I. I've actually I guess. In the last year I preached more than than spoke politically at events around the country. And one of the things that I find really interesting is there. Is this ongoing concern. Learn that evangelical in this country by siding with President trump are hurting their witness in this country and there is some truth to that at the amount of people who become hostile to many evangelical because they see prominent pastors in this country. Franklin Graham's and the Robert Jeffreys of the world who who are who always anything Donald Trump says remember yet Robert. Jeff Reason Jerry Falwell junior and others out there. After President Trump in two thousand sixteen defended the planned. Parenthood out there said well. Yeah they do some good or they refused to ever. They refuse to be critical of the president. And so there are a lot of people out there who say hey that well this is gonNa hurt the church in the United States. The the tying the Evangelical ISM TO DONALD TRUMP'S GONNA hurt the church. I don't I don't want to dismiss that altogether but I've always thought when people make these arguments that is there's this thing if you're a Christian Christian there's this thing called the Holy Spirit and to say that That Christians in America are going to hurt their witness How are you going to hurt the Holy Spirit who works through people and that's always been my frustration? Here is everybody everybody even the people who want to criticize evangelical they WANNA make it about themselves. THEY WANNA make it always about themselves. What what about God? And God's work through people and God Still GonNa work through the Holy Spirit Still GonNa work so. I don't know that there needs to be the level of panic that the reason these conversations about evangelical in the Church and the president in this country Win Win God's got a plan and maybe that's part of what maybe it's a judgment I don't know but he's certainly GonNa work. Still Mike Bloomberg's campaign y'all my Bloomberg. He he spent in money furiously to to make a go of it in the democratic campaign his campaign. Just actually put out a tweet From team Bloomberg Org find someone who looks at you the way Mike looks at ribs and it's got the Emoji with with the hearts for is and when you actually open the picture a Bloomberg is actually these people are eating brisket there. It's brisket it's there are no ribs anywhere in the picture. It's let's see these people. This woman has a sandwich sandwich. Some brisket This guy has baked beans and looks like some slaw. An and he's eaten all his brisket. There are no ribs there may be. It's the Brooklyn Barbecue. They they've eaten so much Brooklyn Barbecue. That's supposedly taking over the world and maybe in Brooklyn they they think that ribs and brisket or the same thing Wow Oh wow wow. That's just pathetic. The the HIPSTER hipster beatty people. Hey I mentioned Mitch the other day and I want circle back to this because I only mentioned it briefly you or your children are probably using an and the odds are at your kids kids in your teens. Just I'm going to go off another tangent. facebook increasingly facebook is what fifty sixty st in in seventy year olds us For Social Media Idiots the the forty thirty forty and fifty year olds who will actually twitter's more diverse. But when you get over. Fifty declines very rapidly in the number of people who use it but thirty and forty year olds use instagram. A Lot. If you're in in your twenties thirties you're probably using snapchat. And if you're in your teens and twenties you're not using snapchat you're using tic Toc and Dan Tick Tock you make a very short videos. There used to be thing there used to be a twitter service called vine twitter has ended service in favor of something something called periscope that allows long form video content. I'm broadcasting the show for example today on facebook Youtube and pure scope for twitter But twitter got rid of vines. Vines where you'd make these funny fifteen second videos that they got a following ironically now if you wanNA watch all the vines from twitter you go to youtube when you watch them. My kids love to watch him But the new thing th the replacement for vine is this APP called Tick Tock and you could make very funny very quick little videos radios and people develop these massive million people following on on tick tock and they start making themselves very wealthy being tick tock famous. You've never heard of them. They've got got millions of followers and they start making money. There's a problem with Tik Tok though that your kids are using and the American Defense Department has now banned the use of Tick Tock In any department of Defense facility it is because Tick Tock was an American company that has been bought by a Chinese company. And there's growing evidence to to suggest that the Chinese military is behind Tik Tok now and if you use tick tock you're essentially handing your phone over to the Chinese surveillance state There have been suggestions now in iphone. Apple's IOS is way more secure than android. I know full disclosure here I am. And I'm an apple user. I am in the Colt I love my iphone. I love my Mac. I love my IPAD. I love my Apple Watch I love my apple TV. I I am totally only down with the I love it. I do not love Apple News. Plus I cancelled my subscription. I do not love Apple. TV plus they are garbage subscriptions. There's just nothing worth paying for with Apple News plus an apple. TV Plus Apple Arcade. I've found some very fun game there but nonetheless. I'm in the Apple. I like my I four. One of the reasons I like. iphone is apple values privacy and security so for example my my dear producer Charlie. I genuinely think it's despite me I. I really do believe that's what it is. He does he has an android device. She does not have an iphone. And so when I texted him mm-hmm I have to see the the offensive green chat bubble the offensive green chat bubble. Those are you have an iphone. You know if you're texting with all of your friends and they all have iphone. I phoned you. See a blue bubble and the blue bubble means that you're using apple's message service which is highly into insecure You can send someone a password early username. What have you and you're not GonNa have it hacked because the apple I.? Messy and Charlie admits it is for spiked The the I message blue bubble is highly secure. It's more secure than email or text message. If you're on an iphone and you send someone a green chat bubble it means you're using standard SMS protocol which is easily Hackel Easily determined. And you do not want to do that. And it's just it's it's for spite when I text my producer. Something that should be private. I get this green chat bubble knowing knowing that anyone could hack his android device and find it. This is a very long winded explanation. android just isn't as secure and I don't mean that disparagingly I do not mean that because I'm in the cult of apple it just isn't it's based on Google protocols many of which are open standards entered and Google itself has a vested interest in harnessing. This you hear people all the time who say this is very weird. I was I was talking talking to a friend of mine. I in fact this happened the other day a friend of mine Texted me and said I was just talking to a buddy about CIPOLLA in now. I'm seeing ads in facebook Advertising Aaa on his android device or my it happened with my sister and she's actually got an iphone where she was actually texting my older? Oh sister and me and my middle sister was texting my oldest me about going to sleep and she was on instagram and suddenly saw ads for Insomnia this I gotta say this is happening getting way too much for it to be coincidental. There's really got to be something going on because I know way too many people who have this happen and you talk to the tech guys and they say well you were probably googling glean it or or or something over the last couple of days and it takes while the algorithm adjust and oh this is happening way too much but it's primarily happens in the android and tick tock now while you're apple. Device tends to be more secure than your android device. The Chinese have been apparently allegedly. I should say allegedly working in some of these services like talk to feed the surveillance state in China American data. So if your child is using tick tock the odds are the Chinese now have scanned your child space and your child is in a database somewhere in China and they will keep that database up to date as they build their surveillance state If your kid is talking about stuff on Tog the Chinese are compiling a database if your child is doing something nefarious you don't know about you are your child is probably going to be in there. There actually is a There is a story out very recently about people doing stuff on social the media in China and the Chinese are now using that to blackmail those people within China or punish them so for example. The Hong Kong protesters in Hong Kong. Don't put anything thing on Tick Tock because it will be very easy for the Chinese authorities to come find them in round them up and make them disappear. It's it's a real real will problem and I touched on it a little bit the other day just noting that the Defense Department has decided to ban tick tock from all military installations And now I'm seeing more stories on this over the weekend in this morning there's more out about it The Pentagon is taking tick tock to be a serious Security threat because of the Chinese. And what is so ironic or the number of people in this country whose kids are using tick tock right now which is part of the Chinese Chinese surveillance state according to the Pentagon so be advised if your kids using tick tock You probably want to have a chat with him about the Chinese surveillance. I don't know how you as Johny I see your cute little tick tock with firecrackers. You need to know that the Chinese are putting you in a database now. They're they're doing a scan of your face and they're going going to be able to track you for the rest of your life and when you do something embarrassing twenty years from now they're going to be able to pull out this video on tick tock and embarrassed you even further. I mean so. Here's there's there's there is a story of our where was it wasn't a Wall Street. Journal is one of the tech sites. It was one of the vox sites so one of the things that people use for snapchat now in apparently. I don't use take talk if you come to my house tick Tock is blocked in my house because of these concerns and I've had them for for a while with Tik Tok and I don't want my kids using it but there are like even an instagram their direct message services You can message. People and snapchat is being used instagram. mm-hmm is being used some and and apparently tick tock has been used for fur trading any legal items whether it's drugs or guns or what have you can if you're doing wean it through the tick tock service. The Chinese of course are compiling all the stuff and you could very well one day. Have Your your child who was buying weed or a gun on on. Tick Tock suddenly be blackmail by the Chinese and a future life. I just You gotta be careful with these services and remember the facial scanning APP. People were putting up the they're aged pictures. They would scan their face and they would put it on instagram and say this is what I'm going to look like. In fifty years it turns out it was a Russian service. And if you re read the terms of service you're actually allowing the Russians to go through your entire photo archive on your phones library and take all of your pictures and they said Oh no trust us. We're we're not going. Yeah right yeah I tell you the the world is coming to you and at you through your phone these days. You're we're phone is I I. Actually I encountered a pastor recently who does not use social media and does not not use email. He's apparently very proficient with texting on his phone and he has an old school full he will. Oh not use a high tech smartphone. He will not use email and he will not use social media and the reason is one. He thinks it interferes with his ministry. That's all a distraction and to. He is increasingly convinced that that is how the world comes to get you that the world now gets you addicted addicted to technology and you sit around all day looking at memes on your phone and you don't pay attention to the world around you anymore and eat at one fall into that also. Apparently he doesn't use e mail because is he got an email account about ten years ago and mentioned it in a sermon and thereafter. A bunch of people emailed him to pick apart his sermon that he had said and and he was so horrified. Bide Bhai people having that ready access to to be able to to do that that he should demos. Email has never had an email since. But you're you're on notice here. I have helped educate you now. Now let us move on to the Australian wildfires. My wife has been paying attention to the Australian wildfire situation because my wife quilts And one of her favourite quilters is in Australia and the wildfires in Australia. Really big deal. There are some reports. The media's making this all about climate change and that climate change is sparking this. You need to know Australia's having a very hot summer and it this. This is their their drought season. This is dry season But it is way drier than usual and you do need understand that the progressives in Australia and the media in Australia Oh you have totally bought into the extremes of climate change you. I have more and more come around on the issue of climate change in the last ten years to the fact that yes the world is warming. Lean up but I also believe that there's increasingly yes. Humans are involved. But it's also we are amplifying natural feedback loop to begin with and the world is going to cool down again Although we are definitely going to contribute to it not cooling down as much as otherwise. Would've I listen. I'm I'm willing to say that. Yes the world is getting warmer. Yes thurs climate change yes. We play a role though. Not nearly as significant as a lot of people would have you believe and that I don't care and it's the last part that makes people's heads explode because I don't Oh care I do think there are. There are seven billion of us on the planet clearly. We have a role to play in a symbiotic relationship around the planet. But at the same time I don't care about it I do believe that we will evolve and adapt were highly adaptable creatures. We can certainly do something but in in Australia. The Media Dan Progressives Industry. You have gone all in on climate change and everything in Australia is now about climate change. I read something the other day that there have been. A number of people have been arrested in Australia for starting reading. Some of these fires the fires of all joined together. There is no rain there so it doesn't look like it was climate change that started the fires. It looks like arsonists started the fires in. That's gone under reported. Here's the thing you need to understand about this. The progressives and Australia were set to win their last election and they were running on a massive massive agenda about climate change. It was going to be a huge huge. They were GONNA impose a carbon tax on the Australians. They were going to do massive things to cripple the Australian Australian economy and drive up costs on Australians. All to fight climate change. They were ahead in the polls until the conservative government Australia. Turn this issue on its head and said if the if the Labor Party gets in the progressives get in they're going to drive up your cost of living they're gonNA make you get rid of your air conditioner. They're going to do all of these things that at punish you for living a comfortable life and the Australian people went to the polls and they put the Conservatives back in office the media in Australia is as partisan as the American media it is as biased as the American media. They hate the Murdoch's in Australia as much as they hate the Murdoch's in this country and the media because they're kicking their butts. The the Rupert Murdoch media chains are are dominant Australia. Just like Fox News is ear and the Australian leftist hate them and so everything. They blame on Rupert Murdoch. A every climate changes is Rupert Murdoch's. He's the coke brothers their boogeyman or the America in the United States. Co Rupert Murdoch is in Australia. It's ridiculous but the media in Australia. Stralia now has every incentive to amplify all the news stories about climate change in the American media is now echoing these stories because it's payback to those Hickson rubes. That voted for the Conservatives conservatives just like the media in this country goes after trump voters. The median Australia hates the people who returned the Conservatives to power so you're hearing so much about climate change and so little about arsonists in the way the fires actually started because the media and Australia is desperate for an I told you so moment against the conservative government so much of the coverage in Australia. Troy is driven by politics in. It's not really driven by the environment. They WANNA masquerade. Is it being driven by the environment. But they are out to get the conservative government Australia. And it's shaping the new cycle in this country when you hear the news in this country and it's Oh Australia it's the whole country is on fire and it's global warming and underneath. You gotta remember those. Those fires were not caused by global warming. Something caused the spark that caused the fire. We're not getting a lot of those stories stories. What we're getting is the Australian government? It's there the blame. They're to blame because they have taken action that the progressives would have taken if they came to power. It's sad that we're seeing this. Whether it's the commentary and the reporting on Iraq and Iran in this country or the climate change agenda. The media has gone so far left. The narrative has been Mo- has become more important than the truth. The facts are Ansa leary to advancing the progressive agenda and increasingly. It really is hard hard to know who to believe. In this country I spent the majority of my research for my radio shows now in what I write at the resurgent going through a determining is this true through and if not trying to educate people on the fact that it's fake. Here's the real news. Here's the real story. And the media. They become their own worst enemy and they don't even realize it so buddy of mine who lives out on the left go. Sit me a A new story out of the Middle East The L. Monitor the pulse of the Middle East and Let me just read you will. There's a summary here. The the articles are the headline is top commanders assassination assassination leaves Iran with very few options to retaliate following Qassim Sulejmani. He's assassination in Iraq. There has been heightened concern about an Iranian in reaction but due to Tehran economic hardship decrease support from the public and mentally societies and international isolation. Iran isn't likely to seek revenge militarily against the United States not only Iraqis but the whole world was shocked by the assassination. I'M NOT GONNA call it. As as the death of the commander Mander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps coulds force Qassim Soman and his right hand. Man Abdulhadi Al Mot. Honda's who was the deputy ahead of Iraq's popular mobilization units this event without a doubt will change the map of conflict in the region. The attack took place around one. Am on January third or the Baghdad. International Airport Sola money. He just arrived in Baghdad and had gotten into vehicle but his convoy was struck by drones before it had left the airport grounds so Amani Mahanta 's and six other. PM You figures were killed immediately. A few hours later the R. G. C. announced that four other IRA generals were killed in the attack as well. This presence of this number of important people altogether indicates that they had been planning something very big probably against the US after the latter attack on bases in northern Iraq and Syria. This was what the. US officials confirmed as well as president. Donald Trump said we took action last year to stop a war in Lindsey. Graham one of trump's main congressional advisors call the operation of preemptive emptive defensive strike plan to take out the organizer of attacks yet to come. The operation was very well planned organized executed the US had access to sensitive information likely had been tracking Sola. The money's movements and activities for some time now. Let's fast forward here. The the reaction of the Iraqi public was not as strong as Iran might have expected the president prime minister most of Iraq political parties including Kurds and Shiites only denounced the bit. Meanwhile top Shiite cleric Ayatollah Ali al sustain any during his representative. Friday sermon condemned the assassination and called it a breach of Iraqi sovereignty yet. He called upon all parties to have a high degree of patience in Iran the government called for mass protests to support the regime but it turns out that so many of their top people were taken out in the attack. That they're not exactly sure how they will do it in fact this again. This is from monitor that the Middle Eastern Survey Group group the economic hardship Iran in addition to the challenges the government is facing internally would not allow Iran to increase tension. Iran's past pass conduct against Israel strikes on Iranian basis in Syria also shows it will not seek revenge if it's national security and interests are in danger. It all indicates Iran. It's proxies will most likely not seek revenge in the near future and in Iraq in particular would lead Iraq to fall into a civil war or or mass destruction because it would lose even more interactive it take such a risk. Iran is also very unlikely to push its Iraqi political forces to go ahead with legislation asking. US troops CBS. Leave the country as this would raise strong objections from Kurdistan forces now This guy who wrote this is a former teacher in Iran universities and seminaries. He's in Iran and Iraq. He's published several articles related to the Middle East. He specializes in religion Alley Memorial. Listen I think Iran is going to respond but I do think this is an interesting taken that this guys probably right that we have thrown Iran into disarray. They're going to have to regroup in their top. Minimal been taken out now so how exactly going to respond you. Listen to the American media. They're gonNA come here tomorrow and go to war and that's just not true.

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