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"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

The Book Review

03:05 min | 7 months ago

"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

"That didn't get a ton of attention. This year as i've often brought up in conversations with you the industry is doing well. You know from a numbers perspective but the gains have really been skewed toward big publishing houses and big blockbuster authors and so when you have an awards ceremony like this and more attention goes to books from academic presses and independent process in works translation and debut authors. It really does make a difference for those individuals and for those companies. So i feel like this year. We really really needed that spotlight. But that is not all this week we also have another billboard huge won the booker yes which also was virtual due to the pandemic and had i thought pretty exciting lineup of speakers including former president barack obama who has been busily promoting his own memory this week. He made an appearance at the booker's online ceremony. So the winner. This year is douglas stuart for his debut novel. Shuki bane which. I think was probably heavily favored to win it. Got tremendous reviews is a semi-autobiographical novel about his childhood. Growing up in glasgow as the son of a single alcoholic mother and he is sort of learning about his sexuality and feels like an outsider margaret. Busby who's the chair of the judges. This year said in her citation. That shuki bane is destined to be classic. It's moving immersive and it's a nuanced portrait of a tight knit social world its people and its values and in a press conference. She spoke about how the judges they had six finalists and they're rooting for a lot of them. But it was actually a pretty quick and unanimous decision which is pretty unusual. Last year they ended up choosing tune of lewis and throwing out their own rules. Because they wanted to give it to both bernadine. Evaristo and margaret atwood so this year to have a unanimous decision. I thought was a pretty strong statement. The other booker. Finalists were brandon taylor for his novel real life also a debut. Diane cook's novel. The new wilderness in avni doshi is burnt sugar and those were all the abuse and the establish authors analysts were moslem and guests. Stay for her novel. The shadow king which is set during italy's invasion of ethiopia in the nineteen thirties and duncan nba for this more nimble body which centers on an out of work middle aged woman in harari and is sort of a sequel in a way to her debut novel so as we've seen in previous years americans continued to dominate the shortlist as they have really since the booker committee changed. Its rules to open up the prize to any novel written in english and published in the uk so this year all but one of the finalists or either american or dual american citizenship. So that was interesting. And that's been controversial past. But i feel like people have pretty much gotten used to it. Okay well lots to celebrate this week in the book world. Alexandra thank you so much for being here. Thanks so much for having me.

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"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

The Book Review

04:44 min | 7 months ago

"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

"Scott joins us now to talk about the latest in his series of essays. The americans tony. Thanks for being here. It's great to be here this time around you write about joy williams for those who are not familiar with her work. Who is joy. Williams joy williams is an american novelist and short story writer. She's still alive. She's in her seventies. She started publishing in the nineteen seventies. Her first novel was state of grace and she had kind of a loyal cult following in a profile of for a few years ago in the new york times magazine dan choice referred to her as a writers writers writer. I was going to bring that up. Which i think is a great phrase because she has a very passionate for. If you look at paperback editions of books you see a collection of big names. Don delillo herald broad key james. Salter all crazing. Her one of the things i discovered and actually wrote about in this as as that. She's a very difficult writer to pigeonhole or to classify. And i came into this piece to doing the reading for its thinking of her one way based on the reading that i'd done some for earlier novels stories and ended up with a different idea of her. I started out thinking of her. As kind of a realist. Almost in the in the sort of raymond carver or and beatty vein very close grain finally detailed reticent realism and ended up thinking of her something almost completely different sort of a fabulous surrealist magical or which he kind of writer okay. I'm gonna ask you all kinds of questions that i think. You don't wanna be asked to try to pin her down. There's a lot in here. I want to actually go first back to that original freeze you used writers writer but actually we'll just simplify it to a writer's writer because i think that is the kind of phrase that people use that to people who are writers baby mean something but that is kind of mysterious to non writers. What do we mean when we use that phrase. I've never really understood the phrase or particularly. Oh my god. And i think what it means. Is that if you think that writers read differently from the rest of us and our maybe more attuned to certain matters of craft and technique that the rest of us rush over. Let's say you know this is a caricature but most people we read for the plot we read for the characters we read for the emotions and maybe writers are looking at something different. They're looking at the brush strokes so to speak at the sentences at the rhythm on the sentence sentence level and i'm not sure that's true but it is true that within any profession there are people you know it's true of standup comedians or actors or filmmakers that there are some who have a special kind of respect from their peers that may be disproportionate to their renown or popularity or fame or a claim out in the world joy williams has won and been nominated for all the major awards and she's very well reviewed in her books stay in print so she has certainly a loyal readership. That isn't just writers. But i think there's something special about her and i think it has to do with her resistance to classification in a way that she's she's writing sentences at stories and characters and plots that are so unusual and that seem to result from kind of total inventiveness. I feel like having read just about all of the fictional msci's published in the last few months. I could say that. I feel like there's a kind of attention to words and sentences and developments within the story and the plot that keep you on the edge of your seat and at the edge of your attention throughout there are writers where you can kind of let your mind wander a little bit and coast a little bit in the okay. I know this passage of description is going to tell me something about the house. This okay these people are having this conversation now and and you could sort of skate already. Can't do that in a joy store. You have to be paying attention every moment because the terms of the fiction what the characters are thinking and feeling how they're relating to each other what is going to happen in the language from one sentence to the next whether it's going to be sad or mysterious or funny is going to change so you just have to keep your eyes on the road at your hand on the wheel the whole time

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Joy Williams and Unique Views of America

The Book Review

04:44 min | 7 months ago

Joy Williams and Unique Views of America

"Scott joins us now to talk about the latest in his series of essays. The americans tony. Thanks for being here. It's great to be here this time around you write about joy williams for those who are not familiar with her work. Who is joy. Williams joy williams is an american novelist and short story writer. She's still alive. She's in her seventies. She started publishing in the nineteen seventies. Her first novel was state of grace and she had kind of a loyal cult following in a profile of for a few years ago in the new york times magazine dan choice referred to her as a writers writers writer. I was going to bring that up. Which i think is a great phrase because she has a very passionate for. If you look at paperback editions of books you see a collection of big names. Don delillo herald broad key james. Salter all crazing. Her one of the things i discovered and actually wrote about in this as as that. She's a very difficult writer to pigeonhole or to classify. And i came into this piece to doing the reading for its thinking of her one way based on the reading that i'd done some for earlier novels stories and ended up with a different idea of her. I started out thinking of her. As kind of a realist. Almost in the in the sort of raymond carver or and beatty vein very close grain finally detailed reticent realism and ended up thinking of her something almost completely different sort of a fabulous surrealist magical or which he kind of writer okay. I'm gonna ask you all kinds of questions that i think. You don't wanna be asked to try to pin her down. There's a lot in here. I want to actually go first back to that original freeze you used writers writer but actually we'll just simplify it to a writer's writer because i think that is the kind of phrase that people use that to people who are writers baby mean something but that is kind of mysterious to non writers. What do we mean when we use that phrase. I've never really understood the phrase or particularly. Oh my god. And i think what it means. Is that if you think that writers read differently from the rest of us and our maybe more attuned to certain matters of craft and technique that the rest of us rush over. Let's say you know this is a caricature but most people we read for the plot we read for the characters we read for the emotions and maybe writers are looking at something different. They're looking at the brush strokes so to speak at the sentences at the rhythm on the sentence sentence level and i'm not sure that's true but it is true that within any profession there are people you know it's true of standup comedians or actors or filmmakers that there are some who have a special kind of respect from their peers that may be disproportionate to their renown or popularity or fame or a claim out in the world joy williams has won and been nominated for all the major awards and she's very well reviewed in her books stay in print so she has certainly a loyal readership. That isn't just writers. But i think there's something special about her and i think it has to do with her resistance to classification in a way that she's she's writing sentences at stories and characters and plots that are so unusual and that seem to result from kind of total inventiveness. I feel like having read just about all of the fictional msci's published in the last few months. I could say that. I feel like there's a kind of attention to words and sentences and developments within the story and the plot that keep you on the edge of your seat and at the edge of your attention throughout there are writers where you can kind of let your mind wander a little bit and coast a little bit in the okay. I know this passage of description is going to tell me something about the house. This okay these people are having this conversation now and and you could sort of skate already. Can't do that in a joy store. You have to be paying attention every moment because the terms of the fiction what the characters are thinking and feeling how they're relating to each other what is going to happen in the language from one sentence to the next whether it's going to be sad or mysterious or funny is going to change so you just have to keep your eyes on the road at your hand on the wheel the whole time

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"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

The Book Review

04:07 min | 7 months ago

"joy williams" Discussed on The Book Review

"Joins us now to talk about the latest in his series of essays. The americans tony. Thanks for being here. It's great to be here this time around you write about joy williams for those who are not familiar with her work. Who is joy. Williams joy williams is an american novelist and short story writer. She's still alive. She's in her seventies. She started publishing in the nineteen seventies. Her first novel was state of grace and she had kind of a loyal cult following in a profile of for a few years ago in the new york times magazine dan choice referred to her as a writers writers writer. I was going to bring that up. Which i think is a great phrase because she has a very passionate for. If you look at paperback editions of books you see a collection of big names. Don delillo herald broad key james. Salter all crazing. Her one of the things i discovered and actually wrote about in this as as that. She's a very difficult.

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

Velvet's Edge

04:28 min | 1 year ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

"Not try and keep up drinking with Adele out. It was we joke now. That like we don't we. We're like we're moms now we can't. We can't do that. You're like I know I'm like ooh that one really. Yeah I'm going to be up at six and that one's going to hurt the half glass of wine the but but I think getting to go on the road with her. It was really just a special thing and getting to know her. And what's the Tattoo? Tattoo three DOTS okay. He's an ellipse which just means to be continued. Let's call and it's on our wrists and we finish the tour that leg of the tour. We finish that leg of the tour and she had arranged for a tattoo artist to on the bus. So we went on the bus after the end of tour. She had ironically given me a bottle of GIN which I had gotten terribly terribly sick from drinking So that was a little giggle and And we got we are both of I tooth. Olano and now we kind of we think that it's I don't know I haven't I haven't spoken to her in a little bit but But I looked down. I think to myself that's right. Everything is be continued. You keep you keep an open mind about what's about to happen. You know you never know how life is going to move but you just keep remembering. There's always more there's always more to be continued like our friendship and we both wound up having the getting pregnant around the same time. Just totally randomly. So we've joked at times it's you know it's like us to in our sons connected you guys. Yeah but in now. I don't know if I need added four. Stop within. That wouldn't work out for poppy. Wouldn't be an ellipse that one and then top three? I think it's hard it's like. I go back and forth between like really small moments of stepping out on stage and and just that moment that happens of feeling deep cycle circle of gratitude that I feel like I feel like it's like no. Thank you for being here. And then it's like this moment of feeling that thank you and it's like no thank you and thank you that to me. That's a really small but but really impacting thing for me. Every time that I feel that every show I do and somebody's I'm really tired or somebody's throat hurts her pregnant. Yes days. I'm pregnant and some my you know I'm so exhausted I don't know how we're GonNa hit that high note for them one song and but it's like sending down in the living room. Yeah no and just being like. I'm so glad you're here. And and if and if you can keep that conversation going and just be who you are. It's not putting on a show. I mean I do like putting on a show but yeah but I think the shows I love going to the most are the shows where I feel like people really bring themselves. They bring the drama and they bring themselves and and like that to me is a highlight to the career that hopefully I can keep that feeling of gratitude going always. I mean like Dolly. Parton still has so much gratitude. She's a queen forever and I think of Emmylou Harris who was never afraid to branch out and try new things and is still making music decades decades later like those. Those aren't even personal highlights for me but I look at that and I go. No that's a highlight. I want to fire to right. So what about you? Oh God greatest career moments. I'm and I think there's been people have gotten to me or just even be around like Emmylou Harris those things that have been great for me but I think lately the thing that I would say the. That's kind of hitting me. The most is with gratitude is just even though I don't know what I'm doing a lot of the stuff I'm doing. The opportunities keep presenting themselves awesome. You know what I'm saying. It's just like one foot in front of the other and something is opening up and I just know I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. This is Kelly and you've been listening to the velvets edge podcast. I truly believe that one of us has a little velvet and a little edge so it's so important to remember that to be strong. You must be soft to thank you so much for sharing those stories with me. You can follow velvets edge on Instagram facebook and twitter as well as VELVETS EDGE DOT com. If you haven't yet go to Apple podcasts. And subscribe rate and review this podcast..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

Velvet's Edge

04:13 min | 1 year ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

"Of life and so full of curiosity so much energy mean there's moments I'm like I mean he wakes up and it's just like ready to go. He wakes up on a light. That just how it goes. Mama but He's just he's he just came out such a light he's he's just never lost that twinkle in his eye and he's so deeply empathic as well so he's got all the all that sort of like classic some might say Boy Energy. I don't necessarily know if it's engendered or not doesn't need to be but he's very much in his body yeah and yet also so very much in his heart and he's he's just such a Rad human being and he teaches me a lot and This wonderful bliss ball Poppy poppy I have a friend with a kid named really little girl. Yeah so cute. I love that name I do too. We named her. We named her poppy because she her her Eta when we found out we were pregnant. Was My late does birthday. Oh and I just thought that's a little full circle right there in the grandkids. I'll call them poppy. What a cool story. So she was born She had her own birthday which I like. She was worn one day before. My Dad's say I like to think. He was cheering her on. So we Andrew. Poppy I love that. Yeah so how do you balance this career because obviously road life traveling following your dreams? But you have these two kids at home. What is that like? I mean my dreams. My Dreams Get Folded into the deep and absolute privilege of parenting like that. Everything changes everything changes. When you have a baby what do you mean? Tell me more Well you never realized how much time you had on your hands to everyone of and then you have to. And I'm so grateful for it but every all your priorities shift you know it doesn't it's not just about like what can I accomplish? What can I do it now? It's like how do I do this in a way where I still? My kids know that I'm there for them all the time. And how do I do this? In a way that provides for them and any think I I became less precious and I mean that in a good way about the music that I make it was more of like I just sat on a stool pregnant sick AF recording front porch was early pregnant and I was UNICORNS and rainbows pregnancies. I I'm like what is it like you know like the Duchess of de Kate had like shoe sick. Like twenty four hours. Yeah for six or seven months like up all the way through. I was that way and so but I sat down in the studio and I was like this time to create because it I knew it was gonna keep me really really honest in how I made what I made and it did. I think you can hear that on the on front porch she that it's there's no striving. I'm literally just sitting down singing and And you know parenting in general makes you go okay. What really needs to happen versus. What do I just want to happen? And Somehow I think it all works together in a and it's attention when people say how do you balance it and like ain't no such thing like in this regard I'm constantly moving. I'm constantly altering constantly shifting. Like how do I take care of myself so that I can take really good care and and I don't I don't do that? I don't probably don't do that well a lot but at least I'm able to say it and audit. Yeah and say. This isn't about doing this perfectly again. Getting back to that whole thing. It's about how can do this with bravery and kindness and and show up for the people that I love. I'll let you know if I figure it out or do you let me know. And then you can read a book and make.

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

Velvet's Edge

07:30 min | 1 year ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

"Actually know although that would be interesting. I look back at life and I how hard I was trying. Oh He's trying so hard and I think this this era of my life and even front porch kind of has the reputation of what does look like in my mom that was a total fragment sentence What does it look like to try? Not Try so hard. And that's what my mom said to me a few years ago she said the thing with you joys. You don't need to try harder. You need to try less and that really stuck with me because after my dad passed away after all the same era of like having having a small child my dad passed away from cancer and my My duo imploding in part because I spoke up just it just leveled everything for me and I thought you know. Venus was kind of a representation of what it looks like for me to hurt. It was like I wanted to explore wanted to push the boundaries. How can I do this? What am I capable of? And I'm really proud of that record but that record was such as sonic departure from the civil wars that a lot of people were like. What the hell she doing. Which record targeting Venus was solo album that came after the last civil war and that was on Columbia records and a lot of people. Don't know about it and that's okay but it was almost like I needed to cleanse my palate and be like okay that was. I'm I'm capable of making that music but what does it look like to really love what I do and do what I love and and I just started. I just went back to playing with the guitar and singing and just telling a story. And that's how front front porch came about and it just felt so much more like me and so much less about proving a point because I had somebody in a at a record label. A very prominent person like high up in the company at the time. Tommy we'll no one really wants to hear you unless you're standing next to a man. Oh these are hitting on so many points that I wanna ask you like Blah Blah Blah. No I'm just so curious I mean we obviously so you did start in Christian music and then you took a break for TV film which okay. Let's talk a little bit about that. Do you feel like when you do things like that. The paychecks are great yes they can be they can be or they used to be more than they are not exactly and then sometimes it becomes a niche for people. But do you did you as a musician. A serious musician at that point felt like a sellout ever. Did you get any ship for that? It was it was a form of function it was a waiver. Immediate create and provide for myself and my family and it didn't feel like selling out because I I honestly because I'd been doing Christian music it to me was a really safe sort of lily pad leap into it was a little bit more in the background. So I could create that music and I got. I got shit for transferred out of making like face. Music Great Oh yeah I mean and that's okay. That's that's fine. It happens but Are you still religious? I would say that my spirituality has deepened and widened. I would say even why Christie opt out it I think I think I think if we really get down to it. There's a lot that we can all agree on if we really got past some of the picket fences that we put up our spirituality Yeah I do I do very much feel like it's important to have a true north to do no harm. I think that's really important But what were we talking? So you're saying that you got out of the Christian are the faith based yeah and the to to do TV film. Young's we asking about it. Didn't feel like a out. It felt like can I still do music? If I don't have these parameters Sanya for me so it actually worked out really well like I wrote a bunch of things that went on Grey's anatomy in the back in the heyday. It was I loved. Grey's anatomy we all. And then I randomly re a single that became a single will for Oscar Mayer. I read about that. The money for Deli meat would become the seedbed for financially funding independently. What would become the civil wars? Wow at the time my husband and I like took that money we put into the civil wars and then it. It was the little engine that could we worked our asses off and I'm so grateful that it did work. Yeah until it didn't and then as all things do there's a season for all those things totally and And now this is the season that I mean again of making solo music and not afraid to go back to the roots and and the sheer simplicity of writing. Just with the guitar and vocal. And I did that when I was eighteen. I did that when I was twenty three. I did that when I was twenty seven. I did that and I'm still doing that And I'm not afraid to now would the Buddhist say including transcend like to bring all this? I'm like on front porch. You've got some spiritual language but heard on its ear a little like a little bit of a wry grin on some of it and then I'm not afraid to go back to that routine aspect of writing like when I wrote in civil wars. It was mostly just John Paul and I writing so the contribution that I put into that I didn't. I think I was afraid to own that at a certain time and I'm not afraid to do that anymore because I am really proud of the music that we made. But don't you think I mean 'cause you guys did meet a writing writing camp? Yeah Yeah and for another artist. Do you have that thing where you especially in a partnership? I personally struggle with this. Sometimes I think the other person even though I'm bringing the same thing to the table I think for some reason they know better or what they're saying is right and I start to question myself. Did you do that in that relationship? Oh Man yes. That's a woman thing too. I think a little bit. Maybe we've been cultured out. I think they've remember someone saying at a certain point that men are cultured out of their hearts and women are cultured out of their bodies. Wow and I wept. Actually when I heard that it was it just hit me like a ton of bricks because well I think we are moments where we go man. If I'd only just remember to my worth my value totally would have responded so differently. In that moment I would have had less regrets. I would've maybe said that clearly. There's this book have you read it by CLARISA SDS HD and. It's called women who run with the wolves and it is it's All these stories are out from around the world that she talks about the history of each of those stories and how it correlates to women and what we've been cultured out of and what we have within us at any point in time if we needed I to me. I'm like it should be required reading to.

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

Velvet's Edge

01:41 min | 1 year ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

"If you had a cocktail afterwards. 'cause we probably a little early a day but not now but yeah. I mean I think it's life finds a way to handle your own ass. Yeah mine into remind you that it's not about doing things perfectly. It's about showing up to the best of your ability with your heart and your and your integrity intact and that will get challenged as we grow and mistakes happen. And that's the part that's what is that. There's a there's like a Japanese art where basically it's he would probably know it. It's the you take a bowl. And he let it drop breaks into a million pieces and you saw back in the exact same form that it is but with gold or with some kind of precious metal and the basically it becomes that much more valuable because it broke so the gold goes into the crowd. Oh Wow that is so. I think that's kind of like life. I love that. Wow the term for it. Maybe I'm not that much of a nerd now that I can make fun of you in school when you would go do. The music stuff is how kids are so hard secret. No I basically didn't talk about it because I was afraid of getting made fun and I didn't know how it was going to go either. I mean it was like. Is this going to work out so I don't it out there? Yeah not busy doing other things I was in my school. Student Council was cool. Yeah so you're probably president guilty. I can do what I will say. My I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say that my best friend Ashley. Graham shout out to Ashley was one that did remodel.

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

Velvet's Edge

05:39 min | 1 year ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet's Edge

"Soul in an instant friend and I can't wait for you guys to hear the wisdom. She dropped on this podcast. Here's our conversation. I'm here with Joy Williams. I feel like we're fast. We met we literally sat down and it was just off to the races. We went interior design and we covered a lot of things. You Know Indra glasses right. Not Today are matching the wall that now. I'm asking about painkillers about so. I'm feeling very hombre in today. Okay so most people probably do from the civil wars with news day. Oh yeah or that girl from the civil right out of that go with like I can't career before now after well. It's an interesting thing that a lot of people don't know that I started in faith based music when I was seventeen. Yes so most people do know me from when I was in my like mid to late twenties in in this Americana folk duo but before I was singing songs that were like super pop and very And I was raised in a pretty conservative way growing up. I grew up in northern California. Most of my life but Which was an odd combo to let grew up in Santa Cruz? County and then grow up in a really conservative household. Yeah I don't associate the to no neither do I and I grew up in it but somehow I think it kind of it played into everything else. That's happened in moving forward at brought like this openness in this curiosity about we know what is life look like him the juxtaposition of like how all of these things work together to form us into who you are But I left doing that kind of music when I was twenty three just felt like I was feeling really hemmed in. My World View is shifting and deepening in a different way and And I didn't know what I was going to do and I sat on my couch for good solid several months when it's like what I started at seventeen so I mean that is graduating high school. Yeah and I did but back enforced like flying recording my album. Yeah my senior year and And then just like trying to get to volleyball practice on time so it was like an interesting way to grow but once I moved to Nashville Own Eighteen. I had no idea what lay ahead so lots of trial and error and I was on the road. Like two hundred and fifty days. My first year eighteen eighteen was full of Bros. Let me just say. I don't recommend that learn music industry holy. I mean you learn really really quickly how to hold your ground and and stay with yourself and it was really fun. Some of it was really great but by the time I got to the civil war you know I'd already been in the industry several years right. You know almost almost a decade and so it was funny when people would say it's like it was an overnight success in a took some time it's like small hinges on a really large door. I'd spent a lot of time being on the road. Meeting people learning how to write songs and craft those and and it was so good. It was such a great learning experience for me personally and professionally. It was really painful in some ways to but I I've learned the importance of staying with myself. And what happens when I don't and And how important it is to trust my instincts. Yeah and And to not be afraid to speak up when that needs to happen and I think we as women I'm women and men. I shouldn't say women but think women men somehow at different points in time we get cultured to think that We can't speak up when we need to or when we really ought to you and Silo earned that kind of the hard way but I will say that. I got to do like bucket like like bucket list experiences. Meaning Paul McCartney and like hanging out I mean the list could go on and non a non about the things that always hoped to do in my career. Working my ass off to get to that spot and finally experiencing that Was Really Awesome. And then I describe it as a little bit like seeing the backside of Disneyworld that it's really exciting and then you turn around and go okay. There's a lot more to life than just this as well. He work really really hard to get to a certain place. And then you see it and you go oh wait. There's more and not more stuff or like more accolades to get but it means there's more in life to to look at what really matters to you and why and that taught me. That era taught me that in a really stark way. Wow that's a huge part owning yourself. I think issues but if you started at seventeen didn't don't you feel like you had to learn that pretty fast. Oh Jeez I mean yeah. And what a weird way to learn about yourself while people clap for you every night and right that can really tweak with your brain and I don't I don't say that like I mean that's not like a Crimea River It just was what it was. It was how I how I grew up but it was really good that when I left Doing music in that way at the age that I had a lot of time. I mean I didn't know what I was GONNA do. I hadn't finished college. I didn't even go. I mean I graduated Valedictorian from my high school and didn't go to college because I already had this career. How did you graduate Valedictorian? You're like going back and forth to music. Am A nerd. Really fucking smart. I am in I am in. I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know what makes someone smart or not but I but I did..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet’s Edge

Velvet’s Edge

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Velvet’s Edge

"I'm here with joy Williams. I feel like we're fast. We met, we just literally sat down, and it was just off to the races. We went interior design. We covered a lot of things you know, ender glasses. Right. Not today. Are matching the wall that I've now asking about paint colors about. So I'm feeling very on brand today. Okay. So most people probably do know you from the civil wars, wouldn't you say, oh, yeah. Or that girl from the civil right out of that go with like. Career before now after. Well, it's an interesting thing that a lot of people don't know that I started in faith based music when I was seventeen. Yeah. So most people do know me from when I was in my like mid to late twenty s in, in this Americana folk duo, but before I was singing songs that were like super pop, and like very Cherchi. And I was raised in a pretty conservative way growing up. I grew up in northern California. Most of my life, but which was an odd combo to let grope in Santa Cruz county and, and then groping in a really conservative household. Yeah. I do not associate the two no neither do I and I grew up in it. But somehow, I think it kind of it played into everything else that's happened in a moving forward at brought like this openness in this curiosity about we know what is life. Look like him the juxtaposition of like how all of these things work together to form us into who you are. But I left doing that kind of music when I was twenty three just felt like I was feeling really hemmed in, in my world view is shifting and deepening and a different way. And, and I didn't know what I was going to do. And I sat on my couch for a good solid several months. It's like what I started at seventeen so young. I mean that is graduating high school. Yeah, and I did but back and forth like flying recording my album. Yeah. My senior year and, and then just like trying to get the volleyball practice on time. So it was like a interesting way to grow..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

02:38 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"It was one of the best concerts. I'd ever been to again. I haven't been to that many. He played the entire time ran around stage. It was amazing, but I like his music so much. So it'd be fun to see other people come in and sing it. I only good things about Garth a level. I know any towns would say Dolly Parton, she that'd be my question is is there three hours of Dolly Parton songs because I know three of them. Oh, there's like three and a half years of dealt doll. He's been making music since before our parents were born songs that are known enough that you'd want to hear an attribute if Michael W Smith come to it. There's probably a lot of songs that she wrote other people perform. Like when we see some of those and this happens, a natural sometimes, but they get one of those old country music artists out there, you're like, oh, this song was actually written by them. It didn't just always exist. Like. Just like some of those songs that were always in the either like what like when I went to a Willie Nelson show. These are playing some of his songs. No way. Kinney rod. Else's sung it. I'm sure Willie knows it. Which sing that? Mule senior devil, the Georgia style. Sure. Like Charlie didn't know where he was. You know, what he was signing up for? So I like Tyler theory on Twitter. It's actually the only song Charlie Daniels band knows? And they just go around playing by wherever they go. They're like have you to hear double? Senator. I mean, literally all we got. But now the answer is easy. It's weird. Al yankovitch take. Larry and song parodies at the world has ever. What would I would sit through for that? Yeah. It's it's weird Al yankovic in tribute. But it's the actual artists singing parodies. Be incredible gin. It'd be incredible internet on fire. A great idea that would maybe be the one I would sit through for three every minute of it every month to make this at the president needs something. Exists America needs this in our in our hour of need right now. We needed weird I'll yankovitch tribute concert with the actual artists. Singing his song, not their real songs. Julio Coolio doing. Blooming churning butter. Yeah. I walk through the valley where for great now your Grammy style where it's like big thematically ask stage, so he wrote technique arena. St. in the music videos. Hilarious..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

02:17 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"So you that's all that's just a tortured existence. Brain freeze brain for biting into it ice cream cone all the time. It's just a horrible life of the wall. God see Joe. Okay. Tusk tusk are used to smack prey not not spear them, then eat it. Okay. You have a spear. Yeah. You could kill you hit broadside, and you hit it like a us like a baseball bat like a wooden. Why how poorly designed is the jousting would be a lot different. If they broadsided you see what has to swim very quickly to spirit like I don't know if it's capable of belivel- using it as maybe like a man would need. Yeah. Maybe just kind of floats along, and it can't really, well, even the other. Spirited. And then it was stuck on there. And so it's like having that fruit. You can't even get up to sit on the torture. I'm going there's a pot of them. You know, they're swimming around. What if there's an advert in physical and like like, Gary just made his face shishkabob of fish? What happens now like those fissures? Stuck on Gary. Okay. I see I take back, my slander. The final fact is they actually use them in the wild to discern between male and female when they're looking for a mate because the male has the tusk, and I guess if no the female, the female, she's untucked. This is this is. Someone set up a poll to oh. Said okay. It says, okay. Settle this one Twitter help the relative podcasts out who wins. And there are no guidelines. There's we are understand the rules of this poll. I don't understand what the stakes are understand anything about it. It just who wins team beluga or team nor will when I checked before the pod was seventy percent nor wall Jamie team beluga or team, nor will you didn't even know you've got to choose the berry, but the Norwalk because I learned more about them today than ever. So that's what I'm doing. I don't even know what you're on the right side of history. Okay. Good. Finally, Josh Chandler. You should like this one. Josh says beluga whales are the pugs of aquatic animals..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

02:11 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"Travel through a Christian college campus fraught with ring by spring seniors again like Lord of the rings day. So the journey to more door the journey that they undertake the unexpected shirt is actually pretty good. It's through a college campus. Guide then to get through. And. Yeah, yeah. This is who the guy is this is the the they're Gandalf. Emerson Etheridge provided a. Until we were looking for. No. That's what that's it. I'm remembering. Now, we were asking what is the movie going to say was the inspiration for Lord of the rings at young? What did young Tolkien go through or experience that spawned? What would become his head? Couldn't be happy about. It doesn't want to know this story. It was high-concept. Hi, Connie Taikang, gets it. Right. Was out. Ryan, you're on our level, man. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be you'd be part of the fellowship. Yeah. Here costs tasers says in the future a time traveling Jesse Carey, I always like these travels back and befriends young Tolkien in previews his latest hand up late one night, the resulting mental distress scars the young man for life, which he used any apparently uses that torment to then he turns his pain into art and creates the literary. That's that's actually plausible fun. A lot of you know, they say what what's the old saying there's a thin line between you know, genius and insanity. I've lot of people have listen to this podcast in in danced along that line. And I don't wish it on anyone. All right. So, but there was a lot of other feedback. Because actually what the show will be remembered for is the great nor wall debate. We learned on the episode that nor walls are not fictional because we googled it. And like, whoa. There's actual pictures of Taylor gave us a normal facts. I'm just going to blast through three of them me. Hit us. Okay. The tusk is a long front tooth with temperatures since temperature sensitivity. Ooh, nothing worse than a tooth with temperatures. It's a real bummer Tuesday live in the Arctic..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

03:56 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"And I we had we had a really good conversation. And I think like a lot of people my I I've been aware of joy for a long time both in her pre civil wars time to avenue civil worst her work that she's an after. So I kind of asked her to to reflect on just what that what it's been like over the years to go through so much evolution. Here's what she said. I mean, frankly, I've been called every name in the book it, you know. Starting from when I left from when I left doing, you know, church-based music. I mean, I've I was called every name in the book one that era happened, and then when the civil war's ended, and you know, and it wasn't explicitly spelled out people made assumptions that were completely untrue. And I've been called every name in the book about that as well. And I think I've thought to myself at times I've wanted to stand up and defend myself and other times, I just go. You know, what it's it's human nature to want to draw and to draw a conclusion, and it's not my job to change. Everybody's mind. If I did that I would all be doing every day of every week of every year and life's too short. So I will say there have been people along the way who have come and gone, and I can feel some sadness about that. But but what I do feel more deeply is such a deep gratitude for people who stuck with me. Whole crime that that would be such a. A weird spot to be to be in a high like a high profile person high profile artists and something like a ban break-up half in everyone has you know presumptions, and assuming Gordon names. Yeah, she goes she's been called every name in the book. And I I was waiting for list a few. She didn't I don't think you can like Esther, Sarah. I hear her say that and like my heart breaks for her because I can only imagine what that feels like. And I can honestly say I've wondered like, oh like there have been more to this. And then you come up with your own assumptions, this is such a good reminder to us. There's always people behind our assumptions. And that was something that she she she really had a lot of thoughts on a lot of conversation sort of Senate around this idea of growing up in public like she's done. And like, I think a lot of us are increasingly doing in the air of social media were connected to the things that we've done in the past. And there's weird things about us that are public. And there's weird things about us that are private and that create some weird expectations. So after what she felt like it's been like to grow up as publicly as she has. And here's what you said about that. I think it's hard to grow up in general and then girl up in front of other people. I mean, I started in this industry when I was seventeen and I started out making, you know, church based like faith-based based music. So I've had a I've had a giant, you know, world shift, you know, worldview shift, I should say I've had I've had several, you know, world view shifts over the course of the years, and several, you know, shifts in terms of what kinds of music, I've created and in what capacities I've done that in, and, you know, and I've always I've always been curious kind of of mind. So I always asking the questions like looking underneath rocks and saying what's under Neath here. Maybe that's because I'm a cripple Scorpio on my astrological chart. I don't know. But but I think I think what's important is asking the question of opposed to always looking to some sort of concrete answer. I think a lot of beauty and a lot of compassion. A lot of creativity. And a lot of love can arise when you're busy. Just asking the question. I think that's something that people say lot, especially became kind of in vogue to say. Like asking, you know, it's important ask the questions. You don't always dance. At least ask the questions..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

03:41 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"So you didn't miss much during that period of Opole a few highs from Twitter from Twitter that that stuck with me enough to tweet about him while I was there one big one Charlie Daniels. Took the stage went up on stage Nashville icon country music icon, he his chosen Michael with tribute song was never went down to Georgia. Unclear why what do Smith, but it killed if people love it. It was a bit. It was a big hit rascal Flatts showed up. I don't remember which one they saying, but Michael W Smith did say on stage. It was his favourite one of the night. So he remembered which one is flat. No, no, less than rascal Flatts. Let's see and then known adjudged showed up she walked onstage. And she said, I don't know why I was invited. And it didn't seem like a joke. It seemed like she was mystified by and I think everybody else kind of in. Did you did you get a sense that like they didn't know each other? I think they knew each, but she said she said to the audience most of you don't even know who I am and choose right. Because there were there was no like, yeah. We do went on. There was like those lately. It didn't play Bush's. Hey, the bubble right. Yeah. She's not like, she's not one of And them. I like this. Is one of them. Charlie Daniels was I think they go back, and it was Nashville so trying to kind of was he was on home field. The CC Winans the Katina's and Michael Tait all came out together to do that crown him with many, crowns, like the Michael W Smith rendition at what point did you look over in your parents both of their heads for just about to explode like that. We might die here tonight Tyler be it. And that's fine with well. I'll tell you. What point my mom got most visibly excited was when the mercy Migas came out, and the lead singer says and like a phone, and you could hear it because I have learned Jarvis. Okay. So I one bark. So Bart said I had wanted to do secret Embiid. But I can't so Michael would you do it for me instead? And so Michael Dell Michael w went doors the piano, and he did secret ambition, Trump Scher relevant fans are very familiar with. I like, what's what's how's that? It was like I don't think it's even born when it was recorded that nobody knew his secret and Bache. And he had he was having a ball that was Michael's high of the night for sure Michael W Smith highlight was Reckitt town. Oh, yeah. Nobody did I really thought out somebody in Nashville called rocket. It's like his part of his legacy broccoli. It's going to be there after Michael's deadened gun, and nobody did. Nobody thought like jars of clay would have come out and done that they often they're listening. I was I I was sitting down with one of the guys in Dr clay, and you tell me about this. And I said, you know, what I think you should do is rocket. I'd said if you do rocket town, and then they did something I don't even Roach. When they did now gettable. This. They had racket down on the table, and they didn't get wet. Maybe it's a thing. Like, everybody's got the list beforehand. Like, we'll tell us. What song you wanna do? And everybody assumes someone of the big ones have rocker town. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go deeper cut. Right. And then you forget their Rocketeer crazy. This is Belinda with this. The finale how we brought it all home. Bob Goth came out, our friend, Bob horse, and our opposites nice things about Michael w and then he brought out. He brought up the Queen. He brought out you brought out my I love my light. And my love my first crush Amy grant locked out on stage..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

03:55 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"That's why we couldn't be more excited about these projects on issues of race and class democracy and civil rights and much more. We believe each of these productions won't entertain but will educate connect and inspire us all along with being one of the most important figures in the abolitionist movement. Frederick Douglass was a devout Christian who used his faith to inspire others to engage in social activism and his auto biography. He described the experience of coming to faith Hebrew. I was not more than thirteen years old when in my loneliness and destitution, I longed for someone to whom. I could go as to a father and protector the preaching of a white Methodist minister named Hanson. Oh hinson. Yeah. Related. This was the means of causing me to feel that feel that in God, I had such a friend. He thought that all men great and small bond and free were sinners in the sight of God that they were by nature rebels against his government. And that they must repent of their sins. Be reconciled to God through Christ mop. I think I think that was the Hanson. He was like the bonus Jonas of the Hansen. James? You know, there's a bonus shown us was a four children. Four third property, brother. It's like third. Okay. Isn't there a manning that you don't know about? Yes. There's Cooper manning Cooperman is. But the the Jonas brothers have a fourth bonus shown us, he's younger. And the property brothers have like a non twin brother onto a deadly. Trip with him. How is he? What is What he? is? Stop the presses. Who is show? We got up the hotline, which the hub you went on a trip. Pretty brother. Okay. JD right. Yes. I went to eat the opioid trip with them the property sibling win. What what did what does he like behind the scenes? Well, I don't know anything. I didn't know I don't know him or his brothers. Like, I don't watch that show. So I should know context. I just knew. Oh, yes. Brothers who are on property brothers. He was completely normal. Just like all you guys. I was kinda hoping he would be headline here. Jimmy, I need some sorry. Can you give us something? I'm not giving headlines because I'm a kind person I will not speak ill about wouldn't provoked. I would have provoked the property brother. Just for the sake of having a good story me and JD that property we've got a little scuffle. It was. Yeah. Scrappy. He's he's small Africans. Those to you know, lumbering hunks for twin brothers got a stick up for himself. He scrappy you don't want to mess with resin on TV. They know there's a reason they don't want him because he's one he's like he's like our wildcard is like a cornered cat. He's like a hatless. Bonus jonas. Why is you not a part of the thing? That's a good question. Chill young. I think he was I think he was very disappointed mom and dad. No. I don't know. I think he was too young when they started. But that's got to be kind of a bummer because he's studying Jonas other. I have a Hanson origin story. Okay. So I was in Tulsa, Oklahoma going to college in the mid nineties and at our own Roberts, university basketball games. You know, there's a halftime entertainment. Yeah. And I remember the day that the local family band Hanson came and performed at the halftime show when they're just getting their chops. You know, they're doing the local gigs. And then, you know, I'm Bob blew up the brothers when they play just the three brothers. Yeah. Mom and dad or anything mom and dad or on the front row yelling at them and stuff, but. Hansen. Had he been like a baby though because he's pretty young like like it was the era of like tool time and Jonathan Taylor Thomas..

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"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

Relevant Podcast

04:07 min | 2 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on Relevant Podcast

"I mean, you know, joy Williams, she was also in the civil wars. And that's right. I went for a long when we talked to her. Do we ask her what happened there? I. I don't wanna give away. Jamie. Do you know? I don't know. But I would love to know. I don't want to say I don't want to say, we don't we don't come with any like breaking. She was she was friends with she had her solo debut album of a couple of years ago. She was on our cover, and I was dying for that to be where she finally told the story as she wouldn't go there. She goes there little today. It's it's referenced above that rocketed. Rocketed juiston. Tabloids aren't going to this one. We're not this isn't going to be nothing for TMZ for prayed magazine. Yeah. But we got a few quotes. Now, jamie. You're joining us, you're you're speaking at a conference today is that way. I mean, Kansas City, Missouri. I called the equipped conference. So we're equipping women to do big things. So wouldn't it be the equip conference since that's actively happening or if they're already a deadly? Equipped. Maybe the equip. But you're kidding me. You're speaking not once but twice this very day. Correct. Already spoke wants and I'm about to speak again in about an hour and a half. How much is the most? You'd like you've described more than I've done in the last six months with his making the wise and doing this podcast is this the busiest day you've ever had or does it even this. And we'll listen we're not going to give any gossip here have been apart of the conference. And I will say who it was where when you come in. They work you to death like they're gonna get every outs that they can get it. So that was how they might busiest day ever and acquire the fire is no longer around. But well, we appreciate you make and not only are you making time between these two speaking schedules. You are in a makeshift studio that actually appears to be some sort of nursery we steer on video. And we're looking at diapers so diverse. I'm hoping you're in the nursery research stray right now. Okay. Well. The glamorous world of podcast. All right. Well, there's a long every Friday. It's time for the hot list. I still don't love that. I very uncomfortable. Does that jingle? Jingle comparable. It's different than the what I heard last time. Isn't it? Are you rotating we because we can't settle on one? We've got several options. You know? It's like you got several kids. None of them are perfect. So you just kinda rotate them in and out keep it fresh. I agree. I agree that one is it is that one kind of makes me feel like, I don't know. What's about to come next by? Not a good way. Under shirt like I'm gonna situation. I don't feel like I should be in. That's when I hear that. That's what that reminds me of. So. Why before I do the the countdown five to one to slow me tell you a little foreshadowing you wanna stay tuned for number one. Yeah. That's all. I'm saying. I I'm on needles. Jamie. You are you're in for real only one that doesn't know in for real treat. We we need your genuine reactions to a to shocking. It is just this. If you have a journalist friend get him on the horn. If you think the joy Williams is great Christian gossip that was waiting for wait until you hear what's coming up. Number five on the hot list. The Obamas are producing a biopic about the life of Frederick Douglas for net flicks. The couple recently launched higher ground productions, which focus on socially conscious film projects. Among the initial films are working on for Netflix is a bio pic about the great civil war era, abolitionist Frederick Douglass. In a statement, the former president explained we created higher ground to harness the power of storytelling..

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"joy williams" Discussed on The New Yorker Fiction Podcast

The New Yorker Fiction Podcast

02:43 min | 3 years ago

"joy williams" Discussed on The New Yorker Fiction Podcast

"But on a lighter note here's my question do you think there's a moral weight to our actions were sort of divided in regard to that question here there are those who think that the meddling among us perish forever others feel that if you've performed our duties in a more or less decent fashion we will continue to muddle on in some manifestation on an altogether different plain still others argue that it's perfectly acceptable to have confounded right and wrong throughout one's life and that there's not a sliver of difference between the two i haven't in opinion he said mutally how desolate it wasn't here a florescent bulb warble listlessly above them a pair of muddy gardening gloves lay at the edge of the coverlet no i do have an opinion i think it's folly to wonder about these matters here now at your age folly he emphasized was it the right word it would have to do his mother's face group pale she seemed about to cry i suppose i'd select muddle on in some manifestation he allowed regaining her composure she once again regarded him with exasperation the gardening gloves slipped off the coverlet and disappeared in the dark world pattern of the rug i have a radical silence group in 20 minutes he said consulting a delicate watch on her bony spotted wrist goodbye henry but i just got here he motored still he comes elite vacated the animal crate jostling the framed picture again the representation didn't seem to be the same there was similarities many similarities but what did he know of the peacock it is thirsty always thirsty and its tail is not a tale but the feathered train a magnificent and seemingly unnecessary train this didn't see much to know will you be able to find your way out his mother said he nodded somewhat stung by her dismissal and exited into the hallway which was empty and cruelly eliminated on a monitor news of the weather scroll by the winds were moderate they had no special names he felt oddly that he had been robbed and that the robber was within him now even so he would have to find the lobby avoiding the receptionist if possible the brave the outside where there will be darkness and steps to navigate that was calling barrett reading stuff by joy williams the story was published in the new yorker inch alive 2016 this week on the new york radio hour the writer jim among the.

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