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Hour 2: Josina Anderson

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Hour 2: Josina Anderson

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We'll speaking of running here on the Dan lebatardshow is on ESPN radio and ESPN app with Randy Scott. Nicole Briscoe filling in. You can join the program. Join the conversation. Eight eight eight say ESPN, it's eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance guests join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. And sometimes guests, just run right in, including ESPN and evaluate cider, Joe seem to Anderson, who joins since studio. I'll give the straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Everything for less only a WalMart but with your track background, Joe, like. I don't know. Like you're, you're not even out of breath anymore like you're just here and she runs in, like stilettos. You. You. I can. But it's only because like, you know, the show that I do at one thirty NFL lie. Yes. Not on now. So I was in my flipflops doing my hair makeup. So, but that's over Sarah, Jessica Parker and sex in the city has always amazed me like I can walk in heels. I don't look like a drunken calf. When I walk in high heels, which, by the way should not be an overstated talent because that is impossible for some people. But the running in heels, like Sarah, Jessica Parker would do in sex in the city mind. But, but, you know, let me, let me, let me just say this, you know, for all of us women who liked to wear high heels is great store, New York City called leather spa. I told Wendy Knicks about it. And I think she's dropped off, like twenty pairs of shoes there. And they do a really great job of stretching your shoes. They will if for those of us who like Lubaton, I'm not trying to be extra posh, but they will put a red rubber sole on the bottom of the shoe so that you have a rubber grip, and it's still congress to the color of the Louis Vuitton. And under bottom. They also will take out the soul of the sue an and put a cushion in there and put the soul back on top the shoe. So they do. So I almost it's almost like reporter rising, your shoes or that's, so it shows is harmful Hsuehpa might. Nice, this guy look, Brad, you got Eddie that looks out and make a look brand brand brand brand new. I'm telling you. Well, totally recommend that place. We're going to we're going to spin off of brand new and get to the defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens, okay. Because it just sounds like Joe that it's not starting the most smoothly way, which is not. No. Smooth lead your quarterback your franchise quarterback like you traded Joe flacco. And Alabama Jackson says, I didn't know we were going to install a new offense. Well, what what's going on? Well, I mean, listen, first of all, you have to realize that there was a big transition last year, and everything kinda seemed to work the way they were doing it the last eight games of the season which was to primarily rely on the run game with Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards. And I covered I think at least four or five of the last ravens games of the season, I felt like I was down there forever and it and it was working tremendously. I think they led the league in rushing for the time that he was the starter. I had a positive impact on the time of possession in terms of the defense. So you saw a defense that was invigorated because they also got more rest in between, and then all of a sudden suggs and Wetteland all those boys started bawling. So I think even though they, they have the institution of a new offensive coordinator, I feel like John Harbaugh feels like they found their. Bula and it's probably not that hard to understand maybe just a change of terminology here and there but they know that they're going to run the football with Lamar and with Gus Edwards, and they're going to throw around that, and it worked for them tremendously lashing, you're looking to build off of that which is why Joe flacco while they were comfortable. But in Joe flacco go to Denver. So what is the mar trying to accomplish by this? He's been working with the guy for how many days now and he's already coming out and sort of Adolf thing. Like what's the endgame here, I don't I would say that he's Lamar Jackson. I don't know if you've ever met him in person. But he's like it's not even like a negative thing he's just like this. He's just he's talking, and it just comes out, and it might sound like I don't want to say it's off shucks, but he is just like he's just talking. It's really even though I didn't like see the entire quote just listening to you guys now. But just having been around him many times and hearing, those words, kind of visually, I don't perceive that, that's how it how it came out. But I. I do know that in Florida he's been working on his passing game a lot. They say in practice for these OTA's at his deep ball and his accuracy has been looking really good. I know that, that was a concern said he Bruschi night debate over this many times on NFL line. And I keep coming back. Yeah. Two passing touchdowns in the second half of that game against the chiefs and whatnot. So anyways, but so I, I see still a tremendous upside for this team. In addition to the fact that they added Mark Ingram, Mark Ingram and my guy for the safety. Earl Thomas on. I want to talk to you a little bit about the Browns and comes from Gerald McCoy, because he was there on Friday. He's actually visiting the ravens what tomorrow supposedly. Right. So that's it's been a busy week for him. Right. But in everyone that we've talked to so far, they're like, the Browns, the Browns it's the best fit for journal McCoy and you look at what the Browns have done. How sustainable is that locker room? Well, I mean, they certainly have a big mix of personality that, we're, we're gonna call it a big mix of personality, so our personalities but I think, oh, but I don't think that there's a personality on there that isn't like super like, like a supernova personality for winning like you know, eat from Odell Beckham. I mean I know he goes home mad if they're not winning. There's some people when you cover them and you come in the locker room after the game, and they look completely fine like you want people to drip wanting to win. And I believe that you have that in that locker room, I was just talking to journal McCoy. I think we're on the phone Thursday. And I was just like man, you know, can you imagine a defensive line that has you Sheldon Richardson? Myles Garrett analytic Verdon like dude, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's awesome. And they're going to have that four three say that what did he say to that because he was there and he's still testing on other teams. So great question to call. Said the main thing that he says is Joe seena. I want to win a wanna go to a contender, and I said, are you willing to go across the country? Like if the chargers are interested seeing all your family is in Tampa. I think he has several children. I don't know if it's four, how many children, he said that he's willing to keep them base there and go wherever he has to go to win. So it'll be interesting to see if after this visit with the ravens if he takes the visit with the Bengals you know what I mean, what he's emphasizing. So I think a lot of people in Twitter sphere. When I tweeted that quote for him, though, black. We'll see if he visit the Bengals after that. Talking with our ESPN NFL insider gypsy and Anderson here in studio. And it's always like Damian what he's talked about it. It's like they really want you. When you go on these free agent tours. These recruiting visits there really wants you. They don't let you get back on the plane. You know what I mean? Like they make you an offer, you can't refuse it come up with reasons why the planes delayed, whatever it is. And that's how back in the day and a lot of Browns fans join doors. You don't let him out the building. Say, but I really knew he was gonna leave because even though he said he wants to win, and it's like dude. It's your job as don't let them out the building. But he always said, but he's like a big family man. He was gonna talk everything over with his family, and go over this decision through and through so given that it's memorial weekend. I, I mean he's gonna come home and talk to his wife. Are you comfortable? But Cleveland, here's what they said kids, you know, just in terms of like me going there, you guys visiting there, whatever, like the whole situation. So I, I knew that he was going to bet it in that sense. All right. So I saw you get into it a little bit not into it in terms of like, what you're talking about with Bruschi. But I you touch on a team that's near and dear to my heart, and that's, that's the now Oakland soon due to be Las Vegas. You saw on that clip. Kinda gone viral about talking about Derek Carr. Yes. And whether or not this is sort of a maker break prove it or lose it as in lose your job season for him under Jon Gruden. Yes. In, in your, your insight, there is what well, first of all, I was on the set with Victor Cruz. In rob, Nick vich. And I could not believe the take that they had as both former players and I was like, who am I talking to on the set? You know what I'm saying? And the question that we were dealing with was does Derek Carr have to prove himself after this season, and obviously, Victor and rob took the position of having to. And I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Why does Derek Carr have to prove himself after this season? Let's not forget, this was a quarterback that was in the playoffs with the twelve and four record under the previous regime for one season one-season, though. But I mean but. He's not he's not thirty five. He's still in his twenty. What I'm saying he. So he did that under the previous regime, and probably in all likelihood would have gone to the conference championships or the Super Bowl, perhaps had. He had not that freak accident with his ankle. I mean, like they were talking about him as a MVP. So let me tell you what the caller ranting, you don't go to bed and forget, how to, like play really good at quarterback. Okay. And these guys were all. It's all what have you done for me lately? He stunk it up and like, no, he threw for over four thousand yards. Any had X amount of touchdowns in it was a positive regional have it right on the top the head? So I just I couldn't believe that they were saying that at all the raiders like came out at us. Sorry about that. I mean it was it was a severe debate. I just think I think it also speaks more maybe to his new coach because you're right. You don't go to bed one night, wake up the next morning forgetting, how throw a football but you can go to bed one night. Wake up the next morning with a new coach. She's been empowered with a hundred million dollar contract. Right. Who has a wondering why likes to date quarterbacks? He doesn't wanna marry. That's just that's what yes, that's what Jeff Garcia said. But when you say does Derek Carr have to prove himself in answering that question my guess he does coach what? Well, I don't feel that in that sense because I don't feel Gruden has earned even though yes he has a ten year because Victor made that point hundred million. I don't feel like Jon Gruden is sitting on, you know, that foundation to be able to say prove yourself to me about what have you done for me lately. What is Jon Gruden done for me lately? So I mean so if anything, if anything Derek Carr is closer to recent successes, then Jon Gruden. I'm so I was really trying to debate around that. Do you understand what? Wait who's who's who's played or coached at a playoff level in the NFL, most recently, Derek Carr. Listen, that is exactly the answer. I just wanted to selfishly get into it because, you know, it's not a let's talk about what the raiders only that I was like, remember, they should at Amari Cooper. So, you know, so certain pieces go down around their car is the all of a sudden, not a good Puerto back. Antonio Brown goes down. We've got you know, our hunter Renfro from Clemson rookie and Williams. So I mean, I'm just saying there's, there's circumstances that could happen. I think he incorporate college football at the same time Renfro. Ooh. No, I'm saying he's experienced he's, he's senior leadership. Now after I say this hunter Renfro is going to have like two thousand receiving yards. That would be amazing. A thank you. Thank you over here in the heels we covered that fairly. Well, yeah, it's Dan Lewis. Art show with stugatz on ESPN radio and the CNN app. Nicole Briscoe, Randy Scott him for the guys stood at Drake. Get into the bucks heads into his antics, help or hurt the raptors and how do we feel about Drake in general and celebrity fans and the whole thing we have how many days four more days until game, one of the NBA finals, plenty of time to get into that Briscoe Scott in for lebatardshow the crew on ESPN radio stugatz here for Dollar Shave Club. 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That doesn't mean I can't fight. Now my fighting game has been, I haven't used it in about nineteen years. I mean, have you ever seen every which way but loose man, he would kick your tail. I mean, every brought the rang a Tang would just throw a handful of gluttony neuron he'd be like. Cheating again. Throw things at gene happened doesn't play fair though. He does not come on. Guys, guys. What do you mean? I can't win a fight now on across, gene. Hackman. Look at his face man. It's such an angry face. Seriously? He would take you out to the woodshed, these live with our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Yeah. I think Gene Hackman, we'll probably take Dan. I feel pretty good in saying that gluten thing, though, I thought L defensive of the gluten, gluten a tangible like can you go to the store and buy just a bucket of Clinton? Yeah. I don't think I don't think so. Can you how much you're baking what puts the gluten in a product? Is it just the stuff that has gluten in it? I don't know. That's how I can cook can't bake. You gluten free. I waited migraines like oh, wow. Awful migraines. And I did know that gluten was a trigger for them in July took out. I was gonna say, I think a lot of gluten free stuff is of like a myth. No, it's not like a hoax, and then I could never tell 'cause I took dairy out and, and I took gluten out and migraines, like diminished by, like ninety nine percent. And I was like, wait, what is it? Is it Darier? Gluten, that's right. And I love. Cheese. I was going to say this is the this is the problem yet. Nicole Briscoe and ready? Scott in four. Dan Le Batard. And stugotz on the Dan Le Batard show with stugatz on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. And yeah. This is the woman who makes cauliflower crust pizza. So good. You think it's a is millennials to it. It's so good. I thought I was going to miss like the bread. I really did. And I didn't go I go who tells you it's good. Impartial action. My husband. Yeah. Who like I thought he was going to freak out, and he didn't you actually get to eat more pizza, because the bread is, so filling up you get more of the good stuff when you do the call. Her and. Which is not cheap design. Mary teasing. That's not cheese as you're describing it with something else. Like it's a fictitious thing that you're describing my mouth is literally watering, right now thinking, making this I keep asking how long the brakes are, and it's not long enough to get to the cafeteria in back now although of wingo can do it. We'll figure it out. You can call the show. Eight eight eight say ESPN, eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance guests join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your homework assignment, what are we have got? Buck forty left in the show. Okay. And tell ABC just as much as I'm telling everybody else come up with the one conspiracy theory that you believe it can be embarrassing. It can be just something that you don't feel like talking about at parties, but here we're going to talk about it on national radio. Call in use a fake name. Disguise, your voice, whatever. But everybody believes in something that's kinda Mbare. Maybe it's. Sasquatch nessie. Okay, Bigfoot, yet aliens aliens. And that's the peg is that there's an article in the New York Times where military heroes. Naval aviators have seen. Unidentified flying objects and they're currently being investigated by the United States military. So if you believe in that I say it's time to cash your check, if you're holding a ticket for you have OTs being real you win. Go to the window collected. Hey, if you missed our interview today with the NFL insider, Josina Anderson, go, check out the entire interview on demand. In the Dan Le Batard podcast brought to you by Capital, One capital. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes, Capital, One. What's in your wallet Capital, One NA member FDIC, and you can also tweet at lebatardshow on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed. Send us the conspiracy theory that you believe in for the record. I don't think you can just buy gluten, I've been looking at up. Oh, I don't think you just by like, hey, I want to add gluten. This. Like I know that you can do that. So what creates it, then it just in like you can buy gluten powder, like gluten free. You know, grains, you can buy gluten free does. You can buy gluten free cereals. I don't know how they extract it. Yeah. But you can't just buy gluten where does it go? Where does it go right? Not the not the Frisco household everyone else. And that's the real thing, where does it go is the real conspiracy. Like maybe maybe it's like dynamite like you can't go on the internet. And by dynamite. Here's the thing. I can't eat gluten. Right. So like, I'm not Ceac because that's a what are you that if you are truly gluten intolerant, you had like Sealy ecstasies, or something, there may not be on there. I'm not quite sure. But if you have that, then it's for real, I had a friend who, like all of a sudden massive stomach pains just whatever you had been one of those weird situations where he was like stung by a bee. And it was where your allergies pylon. He was stung by a bee. Also eaten something there was like something else in a sense system. And then the next day could eat gluten anymore. What's it like damn near died? That's what's this stuff is real, what's this guy's name lucky? Those, Nick John on this whole time, it was supposed to be talking about Drake. Drake is like gluten how, so he's annoying. Do you, do you think he really got into -solutely thinking, Indiana said, do you agree, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the thing. No way. That's the split is you both agree that Drake had an impact upon an MVP in the National Basketball. Just a fancy knowing and Cerruti says, it's all in a Basset or come on Vassar Drake is an ambassador Drake is paying us. The point is you and I know not you and I can't walk in to an NBA arena and rub shoulders with a coach greet the players as they check in and out of games like we can't do that. If one of us did that we would be escorted in point five seconds. Okay. There's more here. There's a lot to unpack. There's a developing Cerruti V, Briscoe, argument, galloping story and Drake. So we will continue with this because we have to pay bills this. Nicole Briscoe, Randy Scott in for the guys. Dan lebatardshow with stugotz on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Support for the Dale Evans art show with stugotz podcast goes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. You know, that group of friends or even coworkers that you could trust hands down, even with the most difficult. Task. 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I can put flowers at a vase, but this is like what do you put in a vase nothing looks like an urn looks looking Ernie ties. I know that no drink out of that is kind of a vague. Always salvage. We puts soda in a vase we not when you meet, he's we just do that. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests I having a stroke. Join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Tweet us as we said at lebatardshow at Rb underscore, MRs. Yeah, that's me. Nicole Briscoe at Randy Scott ESPN for me. One guy already found me earlier. Oh, no big. Yeah. Huge lebatardshow fan hates you. Yup. Cedric how nice maybe Cedric. Some other. Yeah. Well, I can't say that what takes? Tip. No hate here. Hope rainy sky gives you a good day. I just don't like him so I won't watch. Oh, what else it was your dial though? Not funny. Yeah. It was a lot of rich anything brandy hold onto this. He's legitimately bothered by this. So you're letting no name behind a keyboard, widow Cedric his name. He's right. Cedric. He's out there. So anyway, because your wife get you flowers for your birthday. No. Did you guys ever guys ever want flowers? No. No. Right. It's a nice jet. It's been married for all of today's the one hundred flowers like I love flowers, but I don't I give them. But I don't tell them give them for an occasion, by the way, you know flowers. That's the power movie. Yeah. Grocery store. One day with flowers and she'll swoon question. What drake? Yeah. Does he need to tone it to many to tell them to tone it down? The problem is it's working. So no, it's working who in Toronto is going to tell him to tone it down. Okay. Maybe Nick nurses, like, stop touching me. Yeah. I think so like maybe the children wins gonna tell the embassador tone it down around. Look at this. We created this, this didn't exist before, we are here around square pumps right now, we did this doesn't matter what anybody says it could save disrespectful. They could say this Matic. Everybody's within within the pool. Everybody's doing their thing. We are like a sports team. The Toronto Raptors college sports seem I promise I loved Ronald I love to see here. Here. All right. Listen, I admire the I admire the passion, I fire the. Enthusiasm and trying to get Toronto on the map as a as a what because trying to Toronto's a beautiful beautiful city, a major really do international cosmopolitans got a great vibe to it. Great neighborhoods collecting all of that, like great. It was established before the rafters were there. Who's the Sabbath certainly before Saturday night before the NBA finals? Yeah. So, like, what's the goal is to establish it as a North American Free agent destination? Is that the next step, which by the way, Colossians day, Mike question? Question. What role is Drake in is he the superfan is he actually an ambassador for the team because I feel like there are two very different definitions there. Like if I'm a paid in Basseterre. I'm able to get away with things that superfan cannot. And I just want some clarification. He's more than a superfan because he's been enabled by the franchise to, to be that, right? Like he has he has a say in uniform design. He has a say in some believe, like a social media press, like is he like an assistant to the assistant? Three regional manager. Dwight shooting AM. Yeah. Like I, I don't know what he is. He's more. He's more than a fan like he's a step above Jack Nicholson, in terms of not fame or icon necessarily, but his role team. Yeah. I think it's more than just show up. Whatever it is. I don't know whatever it is. It's working, whatever it is. It's working because I firmly believe I truly believe he got into Yanni's his head. Counterpoint Cerruti, you think he got into Janas? Hey, definitely got into the honest his head and he got into all the bucks head. He got an you clearly got into Mike boot nosers head. I mean, I think because the second coach bud like acknowledge it was going on to the media. That's a problem. Second. They brought it up. The second Yanni is like people like he's management company, the second day acknowledged it, you realize what was going on behind the scenes. You realize that this was an actual conversation in which Jaanus was, like probably words, I can't. Say but it was a thing. So obviously he was getting into his head, and you could see it on the floor won't mean easy air balling, free throws, and yet, rake is saying stuff to him and he's getting agitated. And then he's walking out of an honestly, hit press conference seen worse to right? Like, I mean Spike Lee was clearly in Reggie Miller. The Pacers heads back in the day, and then Reggie was just kinda like over that when you see when your Sunday joke signal, I don't know. Probably I don't I don't know. I think it takes time to like get into that sort of, like agitator instigator, like it takes time, like in, in the movies, like the superhero, doesn't automatically have the villain like and like grow into that role. Like, I think this is he's got a grow into that role like Yanni's is, again, where you go back is you forget, how young and inexperienced honest actually is, and this was the first time we saw I must be weird to. I mean I'm sure like Janas listens to Drake and all those guys listen to Drake and they like him and then he's know. Talking smack on the sideline that's going to be a weird feeling. What if there's like this, dude, I like his music, like a big fan of us, like what's up? I wonder if there's if there's ever a point where it goes through Janas his head or someone you know, Malcolm brogden, whomever where he's like, man, if we're not careful, we're going to end up in a Lear Amazon. Yeah. You know what they should want that, but not in a negative win. That's how they get collide to stay in Toronto is by putting a minute song. It's possible keeping them out. You can't argue I guess, to keep quiet. Wanna keep him out with the way, the stats just dropped off for Ghana's once a series went to Toronto game. Three his worst game of the series twelve points. That's it. And I'm not saying it's because Drake's there, I'm saying, it's probably because of Nick nurses, defensive adjustments in putting Hawaii, on Yoenis like, here's where Putin Holzer validating legitimising Drake's presence like it's sorta taken out of context because it's a that quote. They, we've heard so much is taken from. A longer media villa ability. So like if you're asked the question what do you say? If your coach, bud you just say, like I'm, I'm not here to talk about fans. You just sorta. Yeah. Just pop. Did away. You miss it. Okay. You don't add fuel to the fire he did. And the fact that he is much as he did made me think. Oh, my, this is actually a thing, and if we're going back dre Scott a little more skin in the game than the average, like superfan the ram, and he, he is an investor. He has his own sweet like the Oviedo sweet, right? He helped design the uniform. I think there's more there than, like, just Jack Nicholson sit on the side or Spike Lee, or something like that. Who's just like their people. They have Billy crystal with the clippers like that's, that's fine. It's, it's more but is it a pay payroll? Either way, I don't have a literal does he have a financial stake in half. Doesn't. He have partial ownership like it's real low busy really like Jay z level with the nets back in the day in zinc. So 'cause every talk real low. Yeah. But now that you were saying that little bells in my tiny little brain went off your sleep deprived. Gluten-free cauliflower adult brain. You're making me want peace for dinner tonight, not pizza. You can call it whatever you want. It's not pizza pizza. Well, here's the thing about Drake real, quick just before we move on put meet lots of meat on pizza, pepperoni sausage. Trying to brag, but no for for Drake. I think if the goal is to, I think, if you're drinking should be to make the raptors destination because quite not gonna stay and we'll get into that in a minute couple minutes. But if that's the goal I think Drake being full Drake, turning it all the way up makes Toronto less of a major market team. That's but it takes it takes some of the attention away from Colli. And maybe that's exactly what you need keep cool. Maybe it is. I'm just saying you don't see it with the Knicks no matter how Spike Lee, he gets no matter how Nicholson Jack gets remember us. We're too young. No, I, I remember he wasn't. He wasn't rubbing Pat Riley shoulders when Riley was head coach of the Knicks he was is we live in a different world. We're all of those things are available like every different view every different. Ain't more cameras and things like that. I guarantee some of that stuff was happening. You know, twenty twenty five years ago, thirty years ago. Now, we just don't remember, I think Drake is someone who takes full advantage of access that access, but also that exposure that social media all of it every little bit of it. And he's working, it's the best of his ability, so aliens year, nee you f os hoax are happening, the military's investigating them. I feel like this is a chance to cash in on anybody who doubted, your belief in UFO's. But it made us think what's the conspiracy, what's the outlandish theory. Sports are otherwise. We make it sports frozen envelope at the four NBA draft fine. Throw it out there. The one thing that you believe in that you feel like it's a little out there. Bigfoot sasquatch, whatever. Loch Ness, monster. Throw it our way. Eight eight eight say ESPN that's the telephone number. If you're on the phone now hang on just a little bit longer. Eight at eight seven to nine three seven seven six tweet the show as well. Randy scott. Nicole Briscoe in for the lebatardshow. It's ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Support for the veil over art show with stugotz podcast goes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. You know, that group of friends or even co workers, that you could trust hands down, even with the most difficult to ask. Well, if you're out there, looking for the right home, you can trust the mortgage experts at rocket mortgage. Their number one goals tonight. The home buying process mood for you. Visit rocket mortgage dot com slash two gods. And take the first step toward the home of your dreams equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and m L S consumer access dot org. Number thirty thirty. Rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Push-button get mortgage. He tune into a Memorial Day doubleheaders. The Red Sox host the Indians, followed by Mets at the dodgers that's pitching matchup. That's Jake degrom against Clayton Kershaw. Coverage begins today three thirty eastern on ESPN radio in the ESPN app. In four PM on ESPN Radi. Scott in Briscoe in, for Dan Le Batard and stugotz, who forget calls like women's lacrosse games. Right. Like he was he was doing women's across on ESPN ESPN, two over the goal junior to write or something that was a whole. I don't know something like that. Yeah. He was calling it. It's. Calling. It also stood the women's final four this weekend. Women's final four all guys were kidding. No, I really thought you guys were kidding. No. So do was on the women's final four broadcasts real. Yeah. I, I understand why you feel that way. Because it took me a decent while of listening to the show to realize that there are some sincere parts of stugatz that it is not that he's not just this, mosaic of constant. What's the conman? No, I know I just I find tax Rifter I guess I wouldn't have pegged. That is his sport. But he you know, he is because his daughters are really good lacrosse players. And he played in. He played in college. Yeah. So why do I find my world has just been turned upside down, and sort of I don't know, which way is up. I don't know which way is down the one sort of, like sincere thread of stugatz. They'll get you every time everything else is a con. Exactly. If someone was like, hey. There was a really good on air lacrosse player at ESPN like would would gossip made your top fifty guesses. No problem. Probably not. Although I. Because if you're going to for judging a book by its cover like if you I didn't know that will that will Cain was like a cowboy in a previous life like a rancher like oh, yeah. On a ranch on ten. You didn't see that coming if you're just going on commercial Marlboro man going by profile, like I'm will Cain lacrosse player. You know what I mean? See I actually saw the ranch thing. Yup. Yeah. But he dresses, so. Well, all right. Suits, suits. That was my willing with a measure actual cowboy boots and denim shoot. Literally wears cowboy boots. I did not know I didn't know that. I didn't know that he wears cowboy boots. I didn't look at his feet. You gotta look him up and died. I'm saying elevator. Is that thing? Hey, you'd call the show. You can tweet the show you can tweet. Nicole Briscoe at Rb underscore misses you can tweet me at Randy Scott ESPN. We have a couple of tweets, we also have a couple of calls. I'm in on the conspiracy theory, part you. Let's start with Drake. Call or the conspiracy theory call you guys pick. Let's close the Drake. Conversely, I think that's a good idea. So we go to this man, he's holding long distance Josh in Toronto. You are on the Dan Le Batard show was gods. Go. Well, all the time, you know, I have Sirius satellite radio. So it's kind of the only reason I enjoy driving so much like it's the kind of listen to Stu gods. And then liberal time. Yeah, I was like huge Miami Dolphins fan for the record, so you poor guy. Fortunately, I got you. Yeah, so about Drake. I mean look, he, he is he's a lot bigger in Toronto, obviously than than a lot of the places being from here. I'll give you my opinion from, from a fan of a free long standing rafters fan, from the Tracy McGrady Vince Carter years, I saw the shot in person with Vince missed not like watching on TV. So it's been a lot of hard times, and ever since this change came about with Lowery with DeRosa and drafting him. It's been a change in Toronto in the atmosphere of the fiber on the team has been obviously incredible, obviously running into LeBron. And it's been the, the kind of doomed for Toronto sports fans lately. But this has been something totally different. I'll be honest I was skeptical at first when they traded away tomorrow, for for quite hearing all the rumblings from the beginning that he didn't even wanna play here. Now all that's thrown onto on there in the garbage basically. Because now quite a legend he's a new legend. That's Ronald, that's for Drake. He is the global ambassador for Toronto. He was brought in twenty thirteen help. The team to a new global level promotion wise, and, you know, he thought the all star game that was kind of the main reason we wanted to promote the all star game in two thousand sixteen wanted it to be the biggest events, Rana's ever, had sports wise and the actually wanted to make the raptors bigger than the Toronto Maple. He's all right. And believe it or not. It's, it's almost at that level. Now, I feel like know the vibe around Toronto. I see more Rafter fans. It's tough to say Josh, we're up against it. But, but I I agree with the enthusiasm. And thank you for calling the letting us know, more Dan lebatardshow on ESPN radio. Coming up. We got ten more seconds is that we do you wanted to say I just I just improperly mass. Well, I'm glad to cut him off because like he was giving me this, the guy on Drake and we're aware of morally conspiracy theory, fresh our show. ESPN radio.

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"You're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash outside welcome outside lines. I'm Jeremy Schaap later in the show. We'll be joined by a lawyer who is representing one of Antonio Brown's. It's accusers also an inside look at an East Sports Championship taking place this weekend but first today's big story in the work stoppage is is finally over Melvin. Gordon is no longer a hold out the chargers running back returning to the team after sixty four days blinking. I not getting the new deal well he wanted for more. We welcome our. NFL Insider Josina Anderson Justina. Thank you for being with us here. Onset is this complete and total defeat for Melvin often Gordon. I can see why that is a fair question but there's definitely some context to that answer. Yes things have changed yes. He loves football wants to come back and you can't ignore the obvious that he is also trying to circumvent a finds that could be assessed in excess of one point two million base salary that is almost up to a million but there is some context to this because there also are teams that were interested in Melvin Gordon and couldn't get that done because the compensation on the side of the charges in terms of what they were asking was so high that it was almost cornered into this situation as well so you have to take a look at that in addition to the fact that when you consider consider the difference between his situation Ezekiel Elliott that being that he's eligible for unrestricted free agency next year whereas Zeki had two more years left on his deal. You're trying to save your health so that you can preserve the bag that you're trying to achieve on the other end somewhat similar to lay the on bell although obviously was out the whole entire year so if he had got hurt in the last game Jeremy then how do you assess that a decision because then he doesn't have the opportunity to earn on the backside in in the chargers getting some solid running back play in his absence the depth how much does that change the equation for Melvin Gordon well individually Austin Austin Ecuadoran Justin Jackson world leaders but combine. They were getting over one hundred yards rushing so yes that doesn't necessarily help although in the last game against the Houston Texans I believe combined they were both. Oh thunder seventy rushing yards but certainly that doesn't augment your leverage when they're still getting production there and the thing that source told me Jeremy is that he feels at at this point that he can more illustrate his value on the field than sitting home watching US speaker watching the Games on Sunday so it was it. Was it a good move well while on one hand he's still healthy so he can still earn but had he got hurt. He would not have been able to but yes. There are some loss in fines if the charges donuts wage that for him so it's interesting. I'm just seeing if you because in the big picture now looking at the NFL you could take a look at the Melvin Gordon situation say victory for management. You could look at it that way and yet you know we're. We're in a time now where we're seeing players. Exercise More Agency and Jalen Ramsey is perhaps exhibit A. in that. Ah In that component of the story what's going on right now with Mr Ramsey in addition to the impending birth well. Mr Ramsey has a little bit of a different situation -Tuation because one could say that he's even more elite to be able to put himself in this situation right. My understanding is that the birth of his second child is do a prior to this game Sunday as well against the broncos and so that adds a little bit of extra time line but his stance has not changed Jeremy Regardless list of the illness regardless of the baby being born. He still does not want to be a member of the Jaguars. So what happens next you know Jeremy. Excuse me Jalen is going to be looking at them seeing. Are you going to relent. I are you going to get tired of me I or is it going to be vice versa and at the same time he has an opportunity for his value to increase every game that he's not there and nate potentially lose as well but I can tell you this team's calling me as of two days ago asked me what's going on with Jaylen what's going on with Jalen so there are teams still chomping at the bit to try to get get him on their team whether it be the chiefs whether it be the ravens whether it be the eagles could be that corner store cornerstone rather. That's makes the difference for them in the postseason but it's also the kind of precedent-setting precedent-setting thing that many in front offices don't want to see take place while there is certainly a macro component to this right and we were just talking about this where you're seeing seeing elite athletes assert their value more asserting where they want their livelihood to take place those who are elite accomplishing that Antonio Brown safer all the other other stuff that was happening Zeke. Elliott one could say Odell Beckham Junior Jalen Ramsey and it's questionable whether you think that's the case with Melvin Gordon I think with the CBI okay also getting ready to expire. You're going to see more talks about the futures of athletes in general but I don't think it's something that you can deny it's already happening and it's just a matter matter of how much more of the voice that they'll be able to outline coming forward or NFL insider Anderson is always a pleasure having you think the insights sites and you mentioned Antonio Brown moving on now to Antonio Brown one of football's most productive receivers but of course now out of the lead for now anyway after being released by the the Patriots in the wake of accusations from two different women including his former trainer who's alleged in a civil suit that he raped her. The other accusation first reported vice sports illustrated comes from painter who says Brown fired her from a project after she rejected his advances and exposed himself to her among among other things her lawyer. Lisa banks joins us now live from Washington DC Lisa. Thank you for being with US first of all since since you started representing this client how would you characterize your interactions with the League or we've had several interactions the League that have been very positive they're obviously taking this matter very seriously they called us immediately after getting our letter we've since had a meeting with them along with our client as part of their investigation and they've been very receptive to all of our concerns with Antonio Brown as we just said not with the team right now. How do you think that affects the way the league goes forward in terms of of investigating these allegations against him that we now are aware of well. They've assured us that their investigation is is will be ongoing a wing even though he's not affiliated with the team right now it's certainly possible that he could be in the future so they're going to do their due diligence and they're going to investigate the allegations related to my client as well as other allegations to be clear. Your client is not someone who came forward not someone she was contacted by a reporter at sports illustrated. Robert Klecko who got a tip about a situation that might be relevant to the first allegations we know against Antonio Brown the rape allegations. What is she's retained you obviously and your partner at your firm to represent represent here. What is she hoping for now. Well the reason we reached out to the. NFL into the Patriots is because we wanted his threatening threatening and intimidating behavior to stop and that was really the sole reason we reached out to them and that was what we were asking is please address this and make sure that his behavior towards her stops talking about those texts that he sent after the sports illustrated story was published those threatening being texts which of course also were cited by the New England patriots as the specific reason for releasing him but to be clear. Your client is not looking for any money here now. She's never asked him for money. She never will ask him for money. This is not about that this was about out alerting the NFL to his threatening behavior and asking them to make sure that it stops. How did your client feel when she found now. The New England had released Antonio Brown well I think she was heartened that the NFL was taking it seriously and that the Patriots were taking taking this seriously she obviously had some concerns that he might retaliate against further but we hope and expect that the League and the Patriots will ensure that that does not happen. You're the League has been criticized quite frequently over the last few years for the manner in which his handled accusations violence perpetrated against women by its players by its coaches in your experience. You're telling us everything has been exemplary. Well I understand the the league doesn't have the greatest track record here but as far as our circumstances stances go and our interactions with the League thus far they have acted appropriately. They have taken seriously and they've done everything that we've asked them to to do. What was it like for your client to get those texts that seem so threatening from Antonio Brown well. It was terrifying she certainly we didn't expect it to happen. and once she saw that he was posting a photograph of her children she took that as a a threat that would cause any parent to be incredibly concerned and that's when we reached out to the League so over the last several days raise and the last couple of weeks this story has been moving at a very rapid pace in constant developments what's been happening in the last few days since this the release of Antonio Brown we've been cooperating with the NFL as much as we can with their investigation we've been monitoring things to make sure that neither Mr Brown nor his associates reaches out to my client and just monitoring things things and trying to participate where we can let me ask you one more question. Lisa we been hearing that there are our team that would still be interested in Antonio Brown. Perhaps he's a very talented football player. What would your message be. What were your clients message. Be Two front office is in the NFL that right now are saying yeah we know about all this. The whole world knows about it but we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt and and we might consider signing him well teams are going to have to make the decisions. They think are appropriate. given his past actions. I wouldn't hire him but certainly other teams may take a different view. The Patriots certainly took a different different view. Lisa banks the lawyer representing one of Antonio Brown's accusers Lisa. Thank you so much for having join us. Thank you up next here. Run outside the line. You know all about four night. What about overwatch ran. Finals are taking place this weekend in Philly what it all means free sports when it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com post just a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs. CBS New users can try for free at indeed dot com slash outside. That's indeed dot com slash outside terms conditions and quality standards. Apply outside is brought to you by right. Here's where your today in the B block the continuing growth of East sports both as a participatory and spectating phenomenon this weekend in Philly the Overwatch League League grand finals the San Francisco shock against the first place yet underdog Vancouver Titans. It's a twenty team league with six sovereign. Nations represented is ended. What does it all mean from where we welcome the man calling the finals on ABC Chris Puckett Chris. Thanks for being with us in. I'm fifty years aw I I don't get this stuff explained to me the meaning of overwatch in the significance of this competition taking place that can be seen. You Know Network television this weekend. Overwatch is one of the most popular games coming out of Blizzard Entertainment. The creators of woodwork wrapped in starcraft and it's an action action title where six on six matches occur we have players from all over the world competing currently. La and this time around we're going to see the grand finals in Philadelphia last year we sold out the Barclay Center in New York City where the Philadelphia fusion matched up against the Spitfire but now we're heading to Philly and the fusion won't be there. It's going to be the San Francisco shock facing off against the Vancouver Titans. It's the best of us all of the forty million players around the world the best of the best competing on the associate from one point seven million dollars so the winning team gets one point seven or that's the total purse just so we could be second place is going to get six hundred thousand first first places walking around with one point one million dollars on top of their salaries okay and and in terms of the mechanics of how it works again you're somebody has not even the most fundamental understanding really of overwatch when you're watching on TV. You WanNa tune. When you want to see what everybody's talking about which is a phenomenon selling out arenas all over the world. What are you going to see. How are you going to get up to speed. If you're someone like me who knows so little well we have some of the best commentators in the Game Matt Monro and Uber Mitch Leslie will be on the microphones walking through all of the action but basically basically it's six on six each team is made of two healers to damage dealers in two tanks that are going to be the frontline you can basically think of them as the offensive lineman clearing away for the rest the team at the end of the game though it's all about controlling a single objective and we're going to be playing on different maps that are throughout the over watched universe. Basically it's GonNa be a six on six slugfest with the best players on the planet trying to push each other over to get to the final victory now now. Even I am aware of the fact act you know. Fortnight is a global phenomenon and we had that's an individual game and there was a championship recently decided millions means of dollars accruing to the best players in the world. If fortnight's fans are in one category ah they're looking for something what are overwatch fans looking for when they tune in to be honest. It's the absolute. Same thing in a lot of our fans are crossover players that are playing multiple titles but when you're looking at over watch especially for this match coming up. I think it's just key to look at two players. We got our our league. MVP for the regular season Sinatra from the San Francisco shot going off taxol from the Vancouver Titans who are rookie of the year and these two guys will be playing in the doom fists character. He's a guy who just loads up a punch and he's basically a fighting game character. That will knock you around. Push you up in the air and slam you down to the ground and if he connects with any of those punches he's GonNa take you out of the action and give their team an advantage for the next fifteen thirty seconds now of course it's old news that you know you get good audiences audiences for this you got people are watching streaming people were watching on TV. What is it been like. You've been in this from the beginning really for fifteen eighteen years as a commentator in east sports. What has it been like making it a viewer sport that you can watch TV and really experience and appreciate. It's been a fun ride. I I worked out on my TV show with Major League gaming in two thousand six where we are breaking down halo as our first video game now. I've watched it evolving with overwatch. We have twenty different spectators all helping the production getting the best angles of the action and it's great to see the growth. We used to just be on the Internet now. We're going to be live on. ABC At three PM on Sunday. We're also going to be available globally on twitch dot TV for those who wanNA watch it online. It's one of the most accessible things in entertainment right right now and it's amazing to see how many people are actually getting. There is on the game. It is the Overwatch League grand finals taking place this weekend again in Philadelphia Chris. Thank you so much for enlightening in particular me thank you Jeremy Chris Bucket again. The shock is favored to defeat the titans which is the perfect segue to our occasional segment here with dug co host of the daily wager and ESPN two. He's always got. His eyes is on the lines dug in the world of wagering how bigger East sports right now not very big at all in the states in the states but offshore and I've talked to oddsmakers there. It's a lot bigger than they would have thought that's like the quote. I'm getting consensus and just because to your point these are veterans of the industry so someone who's a dad added like you joked about just a second ago with Chris. This is not their forte but it is a growing space and like anything when a sport or activity is popularized whether it be. ESPN AIRWAVES CBS or whatever there's going to be desired to wager on it like we've seen with the NFL draft the NBA draft even the hotdog eating contest things that become become popular you see that the betting handle also goes up now. It's not the NFL or anything like that offshore but it is a lot bigger than they would guest all the people I've spoken with and again there's symbiosis. Hysterical Viewership fandom drives wagering which in turn drives more viewership in fandom. That's the presumption right. There's always two ways in my opinion to look look at like sort of betting sports. There's the betting market which is like the financial market on Wall Street and there's ways to make money in their commodities and there's also the entertainment component where we see just value much like like having a beer watching a game or whatever you want to put not necessarily a vice but like we see in fantasy. There's just sort of an excitement to a game where it sort of a concession experience much like just going to of the games or you know having a beer at the game so there's a component that you get utility by just wagering on it. Even though you quote unquote lost money it's also perceived as you spent money on that experience experience and in this case watching watching sports and meanwhile there's some news today in the world of fantasy sports wagering the NFL announcing its official partnership partnership with draft kings where does that mean for the industry. It just means the further erosion of any stigma that was out there now the NFL was very methodical and deliberate with sort of their research research and jumping into fantasy and as well as sports betting but having these official partnerships. It's not earth shattering. I think that's a win for people in my space sports betting whereas the fact that it's not a headline draftkings party with NFL. It's a headline David. Pretty did an awesome job but what that means is the. NFL is okay partnering with these these companies that do have affiliation daily fantasy sports betting the minute. It's okay to coexist in the NFL took. It's time to jump in here right and they're just dipping their toe but they are also a multibillion dollar company figuring out gathering information gathering sort of face and we see these partnerships and I think it's a win for everyone also big news in your line of work the NBA mandating starting lineups thirty minutes before tip off only a few seconds. Is it really big deal. It's not that issues for better is because we kind of knew that ahead of time. We'll know the lineups in theory before this official announcement we saw major league baseball. It also means that they're factoring in Gambler's fantasy everyone else when all this goes on but I think the shenanigans of maybe an injury in warm ups things like that late in the season for D. N. P. Rest will still we'll still go on all the taboos. They're just all going away dug his ear and always breaks it down for us always a pleasure sir. Thanks for joining us when we return what happened when Bryce Harper it was back in Washington this week forgiving maybe divide. It's just not what happened. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on. Condo insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism too far because there's only one chair in your entire. Condo in your only entertainment his one card not even a deck of cards but a single card and all your guests have to share one plate in one four but you're convinced that less stuff means more freedom the GEICO insurance agency could help protect protect the overly minimalist broom closet you call home call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on Condo insurance sportscenter at six eastern with sage and Kevin what's on the line for Winston Rogers tonight at Lambeau plus. Why decks new deal isn't done yet. It's sportscenter after on ESPN and on the APP no one would deny that these days in our nation's capital things are interesting and that was certainly the case of nationals park this week the the nets clinched a playoff berth but perhaps more satisfying for their fans was doing it with Bryce Harper in town the same bryce harper who's not going to the playoffs of course harper decamped after last season for Philly for three hundred thirty million dollars much to the chagrin of nationals fans last night they gave him some grief not for the first time and as expected kid Hartford said later they were final game talking about myself and things like that. I get it everywhere I go. That's nothing we knew that the last two innings it's just not right. It's not right of course. We don't know exactly what was said. Asking wouldn't be a clown question. Maybe the fans did cross the line. Not Everything is fair game but there is something poetic about the way things played out this season at least from the perspective of the Washington fans as they Mr Harper now. No revenge is sometimes just as delicious served warm. Thanks traffic and join US tomorrow. It's the Friday four stay tuned now for N._F._L. Live with Wendi Nix.

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Jalen and Jacoby

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"And now Jalen and Jacoby what we want worried about the strong talking get this week Out Journalists Legend Jackie Mac dropped very interesting article about Kyrie Irving and his last night for Chris Paul's return yes they were in a thunder uniform this time James Harden Forty Points Russell Chris Paul Warriors won a game the warriors won a Game Josina Anderson will be joining us Joe Joe our colleague behavior and his his simulation into the nets franchise and world series game six Jalen all eyes were in Houston yeah I think so as they should that's what teammates do try to pick you up whether you plan against your hometown team let you borrow the lots of day people are getting what they want to day we have interesting game between the thunder and the rockets and emotional return to Houston for Russell Westbrook absolutely and cost Shea Gildas Alexander and so now all of a sudden when you're Chris Paul and you return of course aw any fair Russell Cut Russell had the ball and I almost feel Musacchio myself would that kick to the corner no James Brooklyn Energetic Electric Twenty one twelve and nine one assist away from a triple double Jalen do you think the rockets brought a little extra because CPA three was in the building but what ends up happening during the game you take one out put one in your staggering how they play into your trying to close the game with them and then you have to figure out who's going to have the ball and James so the best players dictate this energy Okay when I was in the League the best players were Michael Jordan Scottie Pippen tickets whether it's trying to show up from a team that trade it you you got close to your goals when you're Chris Paul but you wouldn't necessarily able to achieve we're in a new era of players and this isn't a shot or Shea just a fact David friends so very young bigger we were friends since elementary school when he was a member of their squad when we came to the circle to jump ball we've barely even looked at each other team and he spoke about sort of the difference between their on court and off court relationships listened to Russell Westbrook who have no friends that's it but before the game after the game I'll talk tomorrow is I'm GonNa talk to right now but doesn't mean that I'll have friends the job of dismantling for example the Pistons as they were getting older the Celtics as they were getting older any potential Ryan failed pre-stages thirty teams in the NBA and every time we talk about the Oklahoma City Thunder we're GONNA mention what three names James Harden Kevin Durant Chemo Lajoie Rose Tim Duncan and some of the best personalities and our coaches people like Pat Riley we'll Sean Leonard during the game I don't that simple if you try to be my friend angles telling you what was it seventeen eighteen years and all the in this dynamic has changed in era information and with the best player in today's Game Lebron James who did a masterful do I wanna pump the brakes all of those people that feel like him joining Houston was a failed experiment it was not they had their chances. Here's what's going to happen in basketball and you know that she played more wreck bother anybody you have your best players always taken terms not so you can start them together other because that was the tone of the lead then and rightfully so we're there for competition and so as you now Ross is GonNa have some juice plan and guess more team but what stood out to me and we just showed a highlight there were a couple of plays war James had the ball when I was playing this is before social media this is before you too so the players from Chicago and New York you only saw the nationals other than that they were urban legends Shop Lynn Robinson the third plan quality minutes Jordan Pool Start in the backcourt with Steph curry not household names no but communicate Jalen rose is fine I have huge news but I love that Russell Westbrook is a throwback huge news yes sir the warriors won a game boost and or disabling other potential hall of famers played in this conference ended up joining e Wade Join Bosh Mellow in the Knicks let me give you some alternate so who you put in the mass yes kings yes no sons the wolves we'll see I'm not go from three so russ had the ball great penetrating PJ Tucker is James Forty points to assume you had seven three eight threes Joel embiid showed up he had a great game thirty six points thirteen rebounds five assists Jalen should we should we sort of expect these type of performances from him her at two hundred and seventy pounds pump-faking at the three which means he can make that shot jab step putting it on take three he's had a ton of free throws but he just did his game three point shot wasn't falling Russell Westbrook spent years with thunder players and he's got relationships with almost everybody on the uh-huh somebody said that they were six five and then you see them they really six one or somebody that people said that can go and you see them they can really go is it that we do what people are getting what they want green with one of those playoff draymond performances you've got a triple double and was this win more about the warriors bouncing back or the Pelicans really not living up to the experts you know what makes those guys better when you're two three time champion players like Draymond Green Steph curry lead the way in their undefeated one thing that the sixers did is I'm calling the reverse Benjamin button effect I was at the game when they played against the Pistons Joel Embiid it just came up short C. three joining us it's a failed experiment no injuries injury one year in that game seven Coulda gone yet no no just in the championship doesn't mean he played pretty well and he and he had his moments that's what it's going to take and I set into this microphone multiple times I'm not going to be on the panic golden state isn't able to perform in that game so you bring in Al Horford and now all of a sudden you have the older guy supplementing minutes for the younger guy as he load we started to get older seems like he looked younger and more surprised stuff it so you know who looks young bride in our friend of the show Jackie Mac legend she just posted something on ESPN dot com is very interesting about the nets and Kyrie irving she said that there's beat at this point of course absolutely Joel embiid is as talented as any player in the entire game at any position look at a seven foot teams so you had friends over for every team is this is this Russell Westbrook's approaches this sort of like a league wide approach is an unspoken concern amongst the nets it makes him uneasy here's what else she wrote she wrote quote when Irving lapses into these punks often shuts down unwilling to communicate with the Coaching Staff Front One game the warriors played against the Pelicans and Steph curry had a very impressive twenty six points but it was like Raymond ages their new roster was supposed to supply well this is a new norm when you wash the Golden State Warriors Damian Lee we have like twenty four double double off the bench a little weird now we've Jack mcmullen live Boston and outside Boston she covers the celtics very closely replay last year trae Young Eastern Conference Offensive Player of the week he had twenty five and nine assists but he also did this Jalen Rose Josh Richardson great defendant didn't get their roles in the Bulls didn't get there so now it's in Vulcan is normal to see people playing against different it's different and everybody tasted it Jalen there's also some interesting details about him refusing to take a hat off in a photo shoot telling the nets to photoshop his hat off later gene Cernan stage on the market and we putting it on wax it's the new Virginia there they know not to talk to me but Stevens a real close friend of mine inside those lines there's no friends swatting as my friend and my teammates anybody that has siblings the has friends this played on a team they're gonNA be some aloof personalities in the locker room in the for certain people behave different at their job then they behave in their personal time so when he's on wax with his team it's not it's not crossing somebody up in the open in the open court absolutely okay moving on this story is little juicy Jalen there's a lot of layers to this one our colleague a high volume shooter an elite score of course he's not gonNA play above the rim like Kobe Bryant. Nobody is but these moves that you're seeing are- is sort of morphing into koby without a lot of stuff that I'm seeing and hearing like take it beyond that anyone who's worked in a group environment personal dynamics just change all the time and win this is what you do for a living and I'm putting the mavs in time being another great game we had a game in Atlanta In the Hawks were hosting the seventy sixers Joel embiid because she's not new to Kyrie Irving Jalen is this something that we're going to be hearing more about is the season goes on so I have to say this because it's really important oh you're China history. I'm not going to do that because I believe in Steph Ob Aleve in Draymond so people feel like they're not gonNa make the playoffs adjust as teammates that's how life works that's what being part of a family or kinship work because ultimately you're trying to get to your ultimate Iran will sort of help ease this this'll be one of the responsibilities that durant takes on what do you think about that he ain't trying to deal with that I angle in this column was talked relationship between Jordan and durant and Kyrie and how it formed during the Olympics and there's a little bit of like a hope from the nets that indre mind creams career when he has a triple double Steph Curry had eleven assists getting all the players involved they're bringing Diangelo Russel along slowly longer Kyra was delete recruited to the nets not the other way around so based on that Dynamic I'm pretty sure they see themselves as a parallel and I don't my elite level WHO's offs is all four Kobe you remember he got criticized for the exact same thing how he behaves isn't sometimes even his teammates nets team sources say one such episode occurred during Brooklyn's trip to China leaving everyone's scratching their heads as to what it's all happening to me you won't see me getting dunked on but here's what I don't want people to sleep on he did the cross a younger people on the nets and its work ethic this was this was not a Kyri has mood swings piece this was Kyrie's role with the nets both positive and negative this is why I'll guarantee you day in his head he's not waking up today thinking I'm going to do what I cannot change Kyrie or I'm going to give him some advice on how he manages during the season comes back against throwback segment explain the plots Benjamin Button Been Button is the guy that s Dick and did Dunkin over the top he had his way get a pass between his own legs to Ben Simmons in this game he's talented he's very talented and giant ran the wrong way it's one thing to break ankles he got Josh Richardson running the wrong way. Whenever you why play interplay defense sure why anybody else there's going to be emotional ebbs and flows there's GonNa be days where he has a mood and we all ask you this question which franchise would you rather be the one that's full on tanking like the dolphins trying to get a big quarterback or the steelers who are middling mediocre are you GonNa have unique personalities and if that person happens to be your best player with I've been I've been with her we're for eight years now man talking about the dynamics perhaps pieces to build with is this a serious question the Pittsburgh steelers are story brand beyond just the inner harden cutback doyle what I had seen little shuttle got fouled and that's because normally most people would have kept driving his hand he moved up from deep another thing I don't want people I want people to Nasi his there is a pick there so richard just trying to get over the picker we had a great game in the garden last night to MSG was alive enchanting the name of the poor this phil and I like stability and they had three head coaches in the last sixty years I need to get on the telephone and get Kyrie Irving on our program okay so do we can ask him because in a family dynamic in a team what is pump fake hitting the game it was such a great game from partisan RJ bears been so consistent is there a little bit of hope in the garden there's a lot of hoping garden yeah I don't believe Katie is GonNa take it upon himself to try to Kyri responsibility dimensioned that in the article there was a lot of examples of him being a great leader in teaching penetrating driving to the left driving kick to the right you see who has portis was hugging Moore's another veteran that's going on he promised us that if we came to the fight which we're going and he won that he was going to bring us to okay Chuck No Bill Car am I tom I'm going with the Rooney family think that's fair it's also we have to Portis name he said that's never happened before it is career he said that after the game that in my name so excited for the fight here's what you should be really excited for what's the saw Mr Mazda Dr Today was an remember when he came on the show then a lot of people underestimate dull dull K. D. in theory is considered the og dynamic because he's played in the league a perfect example of why you have multiple veterans to have something to prove on your roster if you don't have a superstar and I always talked about the this is why when you have a crowd that could get behind a basketball team to victory when the last time you think a crowd chanted bobby Eh us right there so I got some popcorn you're probably going to take it from me obser- I might not dress that Jaylen I'm so excited for this fight all four spot for the Knicks you signed Julius randle and we talked about this what Maliki yesterday you noticed he was in the center of that sure a left handed player he's only ten percent of the League or less is left handed so it looks a little bit awkward you know you gotTa Onto Dennis Smith Junior Now condolences to he and his family we realized that he was dealing with the deaf and his family yes he he he had a lot on his mind emme it takes us to Kale Dis okay. I'm rooting for Moskva Doll and I'm also knowing watching this does Maceio Dis is moving the report the teams connor got hurt last night and it's really bad for the steelers and also from fancy team but we move on I've got good news for the two of US sailing but I do love Stephen Ross I'm pretty sure they was thinking about their brother in the process and watching the Knicks because you know I'm a Diet Easy Knicks Fan I have been impressed not just by Rj Barrett's box scores stat lines but his always with the basketball his aggression when he's not playing well he just keeps going at the hoop keep trying keep trying the running him at like the point guards pick and rolls in the NBA. He played for Duke last year. Yeah exactly I changed my name I'm happy for the Knicks and their fans because I was disappointed in what was being go and lastly he's really talented basketball he's corporately points you could act whatever you want rank cool go ahead that's fine I'm GonNa tell you who do you think after doing that last night he will do it again no okay no no no definitely someone's texting right now that quote unquote a High Flier people dismissed the fact that he's a real productive tough-minded player and I like playing quality minutes of being productive another young piece that the what is teammates whether he little bit different he was he was less aggressive than aloof sort of like like cavalry is but these sort of things came out and one thing I wanna talk to you about behavior data quote where he was Kyrie's artist you know what I mean when you use the word okay you know it's like when you book musical artists for your guest myself attended opening is sisters game isn't flashy or fancy dismissed that's what happens this is why you look at NBA they don't feed the Jalen Anthony Rose what up doll I'm David Jacoby the cool shaky aim outfits have become a thing in the NBA covered almost as much as the game does and Mitchell Robinson did something in his pre-game outfit that I've never seen before never seen this before they both of them bobby rj pair played great bobby portis hit some huge threes the end of the game the Knicks stormed back at the end of the game to win look at bobby the duke last year and now he's at the focal point of the knicks offense as a fellow and I say this will all love and respect Janke Lefty J. Obama falls Australian rose yes sir we're going out Saturday night yes out Saturday night we knew the DS Muslim fight was in jeopardy beyond game basket this is why you don't judge people because you don't necessarily know what they're dealing with and so this is a great quality win for the Knicks setup on the right side sometimes instead of the left side because that's how right he's like to operate that you had an invert your offense in your plays a lot but ultimately sissies is having developing his Mitchell Robinson which brings us to soft move or boss in person today personal here's how I judge people's behavior not necessarily by what they say showed up to the garden with his own Jersey atop the Georgia oh his own Jersey on top of own Jersey Jalen rose equality millions are blamed this attack you'll never you'll never believe he went through such believe this but I was happy for Bobby Portis but this also quirks please Jalen manip- football now that I gave to leave steelers came back to win but it leads me the draw blank whose number twenty three the knicks that's not a soft move yeah here's the thing of his game at least soft move buzz saw move you already seven feet tall I can't defend the Today's category you could say the only smooth is Chris J. J. is hard yeah don't let it would all jokes aside though what ends up much of which is Laurie Hill hitting ryon exactly same thing when Kansas Book Snoop Dogg you know what you're getting on Jalen Jacoby come on the show anytime anytime Jalen let's get it finished it's slightly gently vibrates my teeth clean every morning and every night what actually makes it better toothbrush the wife is so jealous and my quipped toothbrush I think she's even when I'm not around it just so sleek mounted there on the wall and it just feels so good it's easy battery operated the batteries last so long to its great here's the thing quipped starts at just twenty five dollars and you'll get your first refill designers to focus on what actually matters for your oil health healthier habits here's the thing quip is not the superpower the balls and he decided he was put it on his back so he will do whatever it takes and I really love watching him and you'll appreciate this Jalen because I feel like he's Allan com slash jalen GT Q. 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A. undefeated if he goes in there and beats this undefeated team he's the God of the two thousand eighteen quarterback on this place look haunted no I don't think so too creepy girls comes game fast Everson would've football I mean the way he just jukes it I mean it's almost it's ballet it's just it's it's like the beautiful game so if I was working happen when he got a false start any slammed the ball and he was Madison I know you remember that as you were there and then the next play was third and seven back truly pregnant missing guy goes great service with you twenty four seven access to agents not yes then he ran fifteen yes they were gonNA punt I'm GONNA go kick a field goal brought them back for so he took over the game and we have another very special guest joan way did I just hear a reggae yeah I mean I think you'll have another week of familiarity I mean the good thing between him and what they would like to do with him maybe versus an Amendola when he was paired up alien element is that he's bigger right so they feel like in the red zone he has that size to create the separation off the press even more so than maybe an Amendola and the Sunday I would want to be a dad game because I feel like that's how special potentially this matchup is GonNa glad you were at the game you refer to because watching the game the seminal moment so handle mcdaniels offense is a good point now we move onto another receiver gentleman by the name of Odell Beckham junior the browns and challenge the Patriots enough and browns head coach Freddie Kitchens response let's check in with seven balls don't doing He called five of them they said that a couple of things one I understand where Freddie Kitchens Al Julian Edelman to get more on the outside but new is all he also has that football intellect so when they're recruiting guys across the League who they're going to scour and pick off they know that he can it was raining he could take Stefan Gilmore the guy who's considered the best shutdown corner in the league and still get his separation and still be productive now yes he did on the ball and how was in the locker room standing beside Odell Beckham right when he said that and he feels like despite the fact that coming from the standpoint it was pouring cats and dogs and Fox for it was not a good black girl hair day understand it the band I do believe they had an excellent game plan prior to fumbling the time or whatever in the beginning of the game you have to make sure that the leaders of your team the people who are the vibe carrier responding that's we need to win a football game power running attack is crazy on the other side of patriots the Atom Muhammadu by the way here my fantasy team not last are engaged because they transferred that vibe everybody else so if he's feeling like that you don't want that to permeate so you got a massage over here ABC's these are just his his targets they seem to have depleted a little bit as time goes on but he's getting fifty nine last year he was at eighty does that tell you anything drop a ball or two five out of seven still good efficiency he feels like if they would have come to more he would have done even better so here's what I'm trying to say to the browns since you're coming on we did some actual research I look at all through seven games in the last well it tells me that right now he's not on pace to get a thousand yards in the way that he would want to one thing that I do know is very important to Odell Beckham junior the team when he just feels like coming to him more taken proving to everybody that he can't take on Stefan Gilmore also would have helped perhaps you know the situation as well elements budget okay Mr Merriman Masan Honeydew yes you're right okay just to make things happen cleats Tom Brady did you because Baker Mayfield is his guy right we just they speak legacy is important to him not only obviously team success which is obvious okay so let's let's let's make sure that's underlying but he wants to be be a lot better this weekend and you both know you wanNA commit suicide you touch assist us here so among the greats off pace for what he knows that he can do is not something that makes him happy so he's not saying let's do something outside of what will make this was a good opportunity for him to pay homage because he is a student of the game he appreciates the history of the game and this is somebody that he's dreamed of playing because I'm biased because because he went to Michigan Essex rings so yes okay he deserves to be in the conversation but maybe I'm just lost again I just feel like that stage wasn't the time to do that Kinda grandstand so this is he not the goat will old-school player okay maybe just to be an old bitter thing I think that he's not necessarily sure when he's GonNa see Tom Brady and person again yeah so it is something out of the Game Jacobean are trying to figure out a boss move or soft move oh there is a however I do believe that hoskins needs to do a little bit more in terms of his his own ratio on his own time not by my opinion by by some of the things that I hear so even when you're not playing and you're not I and you're not the mayor right now at you are Ohio state quarterbacks of all thrown interceptions with far more first team reps and the other thing is if you actually go back to the replay of that play there was a defender in front of him whose hand was he was trying take him when he was basically still drinking SIMILAC okay want to pay homage and that's important another point to kind of highlight there and I don't know who they're going to bring in there that want to be in that circumstances given the front office dynamic and also because Kyla Murray has clip Kingsbury Daniel Jones has pat Shurmur but the actual quarterback development group person is not now in Washington so that is the fool whether they believe in Dwayne Haskins or not is going to want to work in that situation because obviously the owner wants this to work in you also have to believe in Dwayne so I understand what do you think going forward is going to be a remedy to try to turn their situation around illuminate illuminated an excellent point is while we re experts keep no nice thank correct the fly idea now I mean there are wide receivers in the could have caught that ball was it perfect no but whatever so my point is I just feel like sometimes there is such a rush to criticize ah when the best teams in the NFL one of the worst the Washington team now remember they they were gonNA play Haskins and they're not gonna play the things that I hear is we could just do a little bit more preparation on our own time and that's fine you can get better and there are people there that still believe in you so always talk about the dysfunction in Washington you're talking about his development and how it's going Josefina you're welcome to come by anytime soon hymns connects you to doctors online can 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"Ed Tarred punctuate this segment with. What is your strike? Three call strike one would be sure and then you stand up a good point to the right Stugatz that same for striking but straight through you get down low. Got Your hands behind the catcher. All right the right arm goes up into the air and then you finish it with the punch right arm. Way happened the air. I see that this the Dan Le Batard show with two guys on. ESPN radio GAMMEL. Put It on the poll. Please at Lebatardshow. Would you like for football players players to show up at the stadium in more costumes The Texans linebackers yesterday again. I'm trying to explain this. And not well. To the audience it was a bit of an Asian Motif. It was mortal combat easy I'm not making a ancient reference there right. Mortal combat goes across the generations. Our young people losing young hype. And Okay Yeah Yeah you can. You can play with Freddy Kruger in it. And so how would you explain though. Is this there. 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A couple of ballots came in to God's a couple of hall of fame voters again. If you're not familiar with my work and my history. I suffered great shame and scandal in the Baseball Writers Association Community Because a few years ago Very frustrated with all the moralizing going on around steroids I gave deadspin my ballot the community of deadspin and they chose the hall of famers. They made a very solid ballot. They never pushed me to the brink of I taking one of these clowns. I thought they were going to do that. I'm surprised they respected it to be honest with you. I thought they didn't push me too. I thought they were going to push him to the brink of having to decide whether indeed I was going to vote for one of these heath bell types it was perhaps happened the most principal look at me in recorded history. It was it was. It was absolutely look at me. Cloaked in integrity or vice versa integrity cloaked. And Look at me whichever it is that you prefer. It was one of my scandal. It's one of the wikipedia scandals by my name. How many of those can you get those by the way? How many are that? We don't need to dig it up. He just wants a number. He's just asking for an account. Take a hint. Okay thank you Michael. So but it's not a real scandal. It's just one of these bogus sports scandals where The baseball writers were very mad at me and they stripped me. My vote and I ended up in headlines Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilpon never in the history of talking about anyone have they ripped someone more than they ripped me the look at me in in giving my ballot up for this reason but my my tainted valid is better than these ballots. That are coming back there. The two guys who voted for Jeeter and just jeeter. They kept everyone else out because they wanted number two to be number one they wanted number two to be the only thing that matters speaking of to you. Have to controversies. Okay just too Yep. Just that's it. I mean you have the hall of fame and you have Lebron James Billboards number two. Can we revisit that plays his appointed not call attention to that. I'd like to the Internet. Update this I'd like to go back to Lebron James Billboards go get that that It's one of the highlights of my life. It really another one of these. Bogus sports controversies that. I want to get back into what you think of jeeter being on like Bill You love baseball. You respect baseball the Cathedral of baseball. What do you think of a ballot? That has just jeeter on it and nobody else that excludes everyone else. I mean it depends on if you're gonNA vote for steroids guys because there's lots of steroids guys you're gonNA vote for Manny. Ramirez do think Manny Ramirez Hall of Famer. Dan Yes of course he's a hall of Famer. Okay well if you're not going to vote for you know the steroid guys they're not gonNa vote for Manor Amir. We don't know who was using steroids hall of fame voter me. I'm just saying people doing that. That was the source source of my frustration. You can vote as many as ten guys in and I think that that's a more egregious ballot to just do Derek jeter and nobody else. And then all of a sudden you're just cutting off off the ability of all these people who were excellent to to get the seventy five percent. They need to be hall of famers. It's an honor to Derek jeter. Who I assume like Marian? Oriana Rivera will go in on an unblemished ballot. I don't assume that there will be any writers who do not vote him into the hall of less. Greg Cody does with Greg. Cody claimed he was gonna GonNa do off the back away from on the air so years later Dan still pulling strings baseball writers. I want him to do it I want on him. Wouldn't it be great though if he just voted the steroid guys and not jeeter. Here's the thing that great and I'm not saying he should do this. But if if you're greg and this is gonNA sound cold. But how many ballots are you really going to vote on moving for you know what I mean like. This could be your last ballot. Every could be your last ballot. That took a dark are turn and also in the studio with them. Yeah you know coughing. No anything can happen global warming. You never know what's going to happen next next year right. That's how that works. So if he does this he can also be the bell of the ball and no one wants to be the bell of the ball. More than Greg Cody. Imagine how many interview requests quite like coach. He's GonNa be great if he does. All of New York would hate him and all of these airs. I mean I think he'd be more concerned with the fact that he'd never be able to do anything with the marlins ever again then but again. It could be his last time voting for the hall of fame because global warming. I'm just wondering here like when you vote for Jeeter obviously you're honoring jeeter but who if you're not voting for the steroid guys who else really needs to be voted on this year. I mean it's not great clash on figgins Eric Chavez. I mean uh-huh so the other The other controversy that I had the Lebron James Controversy and putting up billboards if you're not familiar with this. It's one of the most amazing stories in in our shows history where we were talking for weeks about the fact that we were gonNA fly planes over his Akron homecoming and get billboards for weeks. Six on the air and ESPN claim to be blindsided by when finally I just put up some billboards that I had to take down in like twelve hours because everyone got furious because no no one was worn because no one in the building was listening to a radio show I mean. Jj pastas on the ballot. So I ended up putting some billboards up in Akron Akron. They were signed by STU gods and my father they stu gods contributed nothing other than the taking of glory. These causes my John Hancock It wasn't even your signature. Just your name and this ended up as the Republican National Convention descended on Cleveland on the local news and local news is one of my favorite things in the world. This led the local news. Newscast and Greg Cody was in the middle of it. Not One not two not three not four not five but six. That's right six of these. You're welcome abroad. Love Miami Billboards Oh boards spread across Akron the cost about a hundred grand they will put up by. ESPN TV and radio host. Dan Lebatardshow who lives in Miami. Well the four award letter network suspended him for two days because they say they had no idea what it was up to mentor. Sent a text to a reporter in response to the suspension which reads needs I guess. ESPN didn't find at all quite as funny as I did. NOPE neither did people from Akron. Like Lebron James Grandmothers Fan Club. I did did not like the billboard. Town don't mess with our child. In Miami Herald reports spoke Libertad and says we may be out abounds on the signs message. Did it all in jest. You know get to him it was all good natured. Fon Lameta what the billboards messages the people in Akron Thick. ESPN did the right thing by having laboratory. Sit on the bench a few days. Well I think he did underhanded then you know they. They didn't know about it. They did the right thing by suspending also objection leading the witness very clearly. That's courtesy of. WCW Cody Cody. Won't enjoy at all doing all the interviews involving jeeter. These show aim free time for some ads we. You can't do better than that. Can we know we cannot less. Greg Cody somehow agrees to do this. For jeeter it's been downhill ever since we ever had a good. We haven't had good benign controversy in a while. We need to push. Put It on the pole. Guillermo at Lebatardshow should Greg Cody exclude Derrick jeeter under from his hall of fame ballot. If you're not going to vote for steroid guys this is a really weak class like this is the year that bonds and clemens would get in if they're going to get in you're going to vote for one personally. That's the reason I give up my vote. That's the reason. I figured that would be one of the consequences and keeping those guys out of the hall of fame is just absurd. It's it's just absurd a rods the phasing voice of Baseball for this company. Brad pennies on about dot eligible. They should let him in guide. Kamari do you remember marrying because he married J. Lopez. Don't date right yes. Hey right sure Stugatz here right now. One four car batteries is about to fail so think ahead. Stop by your local advance auto parts as soon as you can. They'll tell your battery for free and install a new one. If if you need it let somebody else be the one in four. You deserve a good day. Because you're listening to our show. Plus enter the Code Dan. Twenty when you buy online to save twenty percent on your battery repurchase advance auto parts they had they advance that subserve inflatable noodle man is constant undulating. Entices people to look me it. Look at me stylist and brainless a literal head curiously however the inflatable noodle man when hearing gyco not only saves people money also also has an award winning hand. That makes it easy to manage water policy. He knows you should switch to Geico is a no brainer stoskopf implausible noodle kathy unpredictable previous tarred mummy. You know do you say that me yep still got soon. Don't do poetry that he visited I live with our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio you think. There's anything and Bill James's life that isn't like broken down to numbers like human interaction. You talking to bill. James like bill. Would you like some seconds of Thanksgiving. He's like seventy two and it's like well. What the hell does was Ami buildings like? Well that's the probability that I wanNA eat more Turkey on Thanksgiving this guy man. Everything is a number with him. I'm looking at baseball reference over this. You know who's going to be eligible for the hall. Also who's not. I'm trying to steal God's about it because retired about Adam Dunn Dan Adam Dunn is eligible this year for the first time for the hall of Fame Right. So I see these numbers and I'm like what are these stats H. O. F. S. H. O.. Fm All this and that and like some of the numbers are crazy H. o. f. m. on baseball reference. I don't know if you know what H. O.. FM is neither did I.. Hi so hall of fame related. It's Bill James Hall of Fame Monitor and if it's higher than a hundred. They're likely to get into the hall of fame and if it's under a hundred they're less likely likely to get into the hall of fame you want me to go over the H. O.. F. M.'s for some of these people Dan Lease Adam Dunn. The first guy that we talked about STU. Gods made a great point for Adam Dunn getting into the hall of fame famous guys. Would you like to share that point. Yeah I mean listen. He was hired to do one thing to be a lumberjack and hit home runs and no one did their job as well as Adam Dunn. He is is deserving of being in the hall of fame. I'm I don't care about the two thirty seven career batting average or the million strikeouts here's the FM. On that. Dan If you remember over one hundred likely under one hundred less likely. His Is H. O.. F. M. is seventy five less likely I'LL FIND SORIANO'S H. O.. FM One zero five. So he's saying likely to get into the hall of Fame Affonso Soriano but bobby bruises ninety five. Who is close? Wait a second. Didn't Sariano have a thing though. Scott Rolling Ninety nine. Wow Oh wow he's right on it. They're very bonds. Three hundred forty. Get that number bill teens. I think he had a thing. I'm totally good with bill. James just telling us who should be in the hall of fame. That's the problem that's really. The problem is too many people are too good with bill. Oh James deciding what you'd go on in baseball all right Bill Jane. You're not baseball God galway enough with these stats. Everything is a stat with Bill Jane but he was telling you can't get a yes. Go from him. You just get ones and Zeros. The Guy Speaks in binary code. Why would you be okay with bill? James deciding who gets to the hall phase Bill Jay Jay because he's someone who studies things and actually has measurements per things and he cares about baseball. What do you mean who they who's bill? Jp Lily Louis bleeper you. I've studied things I mean. I studied him as well and I studied did a lot of research at Adam. Donny's a lumberjack. No respect for anything or or anyone you love the WHO the hell is Bill James. He's the mathematician who was at the front of all the advanced metrics in sports before years in gauge. Before other if this is the Calculus Hall of Fame Bill. James is welcome to tell me who can get in and who can. who was the best with pro tractors and all that stuff? Let me see who swings the bat the way I like the bat swung again. I'll tell you who is in the hall of fame. He was really that smart. He'd have a better name to like Malcolm Gladwin now. That's a smart name. Bill James. What are some other smart names? Bill James is not. It's too simple a name. You need some multiple syllables in there for to be a smart name. It has to be Neil degrasse Tyson something like that. Yeah it's first name. That's the problem. Bill James The problem is one name Ronnie Siklie. This is GonNa shock you guys his. Name's not really bill. It's George William James. I named George Okay enough. Three first names Gear more also. He's he's little rabid today and he's hopped opt on talking about mazes now Cuban coffee. No I'm not pursuing conversation off air with Stugatz that I've heard you bring up nine nine times today. Stu Gods which is your scariest maze. And I don't know as as Gary did. He did give him an an answer. And I'll tell you what happened the ninth time. That billy is to God's went to some list of mazes on the Internet and then used a word he never ever uses which he's like billy labyrinth just to get billy to shut up wait. He's never used the word of bornes entire life top ten mazes. Ah some list on the Internet of Mazes. I'll tell you the scariest maze for you right now. I don't WanNa talk about Mazes Corn Mazes out of here hedge is not a scary go away. The maze mets. Are you still wearing your button. Downs on talked and hoping for the best. Then stop it seriously. Seriously because traditional shirts weren't meant to be worn untucked and honestly it shows untuckit believes in helping guys look sharp and feel casual. 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In the last twenty four hours myles Garrett went into What he says he thought was a private meeting with the NFL and he accused Mason Rudolph of triggering that brawl by using a racial slur mason? Rudolph has vehemently denied this. His attorneys have vehemently denied. This and Josina Anderson joins us now. what blanks. Can you fill in for US Joe. CNN thank you for joining us. What blanks can you fill in for us in terms of things that we just don't know here because the reporting hasn't been exhaustive and the NFL? It looks like is just walking away from this saying okay enough. We don't even want to explore anymore whether or not this word was even sadder not well first of all guys appreciate you having me on I was listening to you guys earlier. as a sitting here getting ready to go to a team facility to cover them but I think the first thing is is that we just want to recall. Call that the night of the ball while he was in that being myles Garrett in the locker room local reporters did ask him. Anything said to spark the incident to which I I know someone in your studio did underlying that myles Garrett said that he did not want to comment which is Obviously distinct from saying no no And I just wanted to point out that a couple of things that Just because in that instance myles Garrett did not Choose to they say what it is that he's alleging that he heard To local reporters doesn't mean he didn't say it to anybody else. It is my understanding That that he did express What he heard or is alleging To other people in The browns organization and to due at least one player From from what from what I understand. It doesn't seem as if any of the players were who were asked about it yesterday by one of our reporters or anybody else? was among those people and Dan. You're correct at least in my opinion based based off of my informed him inside from covering miles multiple times covering the browns team multiple times that after the incident occurred. I heard and this is also from speaking to people as well to make clear that it was almost like he just went right into Accountable mode and wanting into Expressed his apologies and not initially appear as if he was trying to lead on that as an excuse though it doesn't take take away from the fact that he did express it to people in the organization and and received advice per my understanding of what I have been told to to Keep it quiet going into the appeal advice from home. Can we is reporting. I'd Yeah I do I. I understand that question Dan. That's a great question I don't want to put that specific information Out there but he but he did receive advice. I could do that in just to keep it in a setting of a appeal. The night of this happening you sent out a tweet before anybody was speculating. Hey something must have happened here. Because this isn't Myles Garrett character something must have been said and then that teeth That tweet was deleted. Can you tell us. What is that happened there? Well I appreciate the question. And certainly you know qualms speaking about that The reason why hi deleted that tweet initially is just because I felt like it wasn't fair for me to describe onto myles Garrett what he Maybe thinking and and also Just like we all do it and twitter world wanting to you know what it is that I wanted to say actually was in my home at the time. Getting getting my hair done and it was under a drier and And was reported always reporting. I was getting my hair done. Because it's supposed to be on I take the next day And it was like a however time at night it was I know it was very late and And and just like anybody else. I was watching it a reacting to it and I am and when I saw it that was my initial instinct based off of just what I know from covering miles and that is my informed instinct from the standpoint of And what I mean by that not that I can predict because certainly I can't and that's why I I deleted the tweet and I felt like mile. Should say what it is that he knows based on coming out of his words and that was the right thing you know for me to do but what I mean by Instinct is just in terms of what I have observed you know from him in terms of you know coverage and it's not a lot of people retort to that by saying saying well you know it's not as if he hasn't had a very rough penalties you show you know Abusive behavior on the football field. And all of that is a part. Have you know his history in terms of flags and all that other stuff. What I was saying is that I had never seen it? Escalates beyond a flag on the field. And you know a tackle or whatever it is that you wanted to describe between the live to escalating to a brawl. You know to wear it would involve him. You know swinging a helmet on someone's head and I thought that was like you know it just looked like You know You know something potentially could have perpetuated rated the escalation. That's all Josina Anderson with us here on. ESPN Radio Jesse. And it's hard for me to believe that a lot of people to believe the NFL. Had Mike's on the field that they're not able to find any this SAM. What are you hearing on that front? yeah I mean I did re tweet Mary Kay's tweet that. She said her source that she talked to someone that said that the NFL you know had no Recorded Sound You know and I would like to clarify with Mary. Kay whether she's saying They had no sound or they had no sound that they reviewed so I think that that could be clarified. Because I think your question is asked right it would seem that somebody from NFL films you know would have you know something and and and I know a lot of players on the phone with a former player last night who was also pointing that they would probably get in their estimation that one of the offensive lineman or somebody might have been Mike. But it doesn't mean that that person that was Mike was near that potentially when it was said and it also doesn't necessarily mean that even if it's not captured on audio that it wasn't said But also just continuing to underline that Mason Rudolph is came denied that he said it at all which also we you know. We're taking that into the balance of the equation But you know I do understand that You know miles is also very distraught about you know the situation and how things unfolded yesterday and and also feels on on the flip side is as well as I'm sure. Basic feels as though his character is being attack the Mild also feel that very much. So was miles and miles was miles gullible. Excuse me Justina Anderson with us on. ESPN radio was gullible or naive. About thinking that making that accusation in private it would stay private you know what and maybe someone in your studio can and just look this up for me. I don't know if someone can look his age real quick but you know this is the first time that I think that he's obviously gone through a process. Like this. And in my estimation I I do think it would not be good to expect that in a room where at least per what. I've heard that there were at least ten people approximately in the room during his appeal. That one of those people would come and say you know what it is that happened. I've covered it's everything from Adrian Peterson Executive Elliot to Ray Rice. And not one of those instances that I'm not here things that were going on in that room so At least per my I experienced I would have like if someone had asked me I would have been like do whatever you say. That room expected to come out but that being said you know he is as that he is that don't and this is the first time that he's gone onto it and I think it's definitely third doomed bad that I if ever. He's in a situation like that again where he is giving his perspective whether it be to the. NFL appeal no room or any other situation to always expect that you're not even when they when they say it is not private. Just always know that twenty three that you're fair and assume that he's twenty three right and so and I was just saying that somebody today like it's so easy to look at him and he's tall and he's you know and and it it's almost like you forget he's twenty very is still they're young. Yeah Justyna if Mason said what miles is accusing him of saying how the story change it. If Mason said what miles how would the story changes should have changed. How would it change? I mean it it. It doesn't change that You know hitting someone on the head with a hard object is wrong It doesn't change that what it does do in my estimation is give us context context in color to everything that happened in the midst of that incident As to you know because there is there is word that is called all publications instigation. You know and and everyone individually guys has their own threshold so what that means for them. I can't say what that means for Mason. I I can't say what that means for Miles Dan. You know what it means for you. You know what personal things it might mean for you. I know what it might mean for me. There's some people who came on our air yesterday said listen or even though I was listening to people who said you know look you would have had to restrain me however many times if if that if I heard that and the people who came on our and said listen. It really doesn't does it matter. He has to learn if every circumstance again. 'cause still walk away and and so my answer to you is that that is a very individual thing in terms of how it impacts and but ultimately you know. No one's going to advocate adding wall onto wrong. What it might do is give you context of further understand? Understand why someone did what they did. That's all I can say we've got less than thirty seconds left. You're seeing a Anderson with us on. ESPN radio who benefits from this leaking from that room like whenever a story like this emerges who who would do that. Why is that happening who benefit? Who why why is that because this is you know we're in the information whereas the business of gathering information so if if and this is all about you know this you know covering and being being inside is all about relationships connected in connection so anyone who was trying to be persistent about that? Who wanted that information is going to get that information? I don't know necessarily about it leaking because it benefits someone or not like if I have someone in the room and I want to say. Hey what happened there. Just telling me because I'm asking it's not because it's necessarily like oh I want this to benefit is person or not because you're asking the five you know what went wise. You know so i. I can't necessarily say that it leaked because it was trying to benefit someone in my instance it came because ask the question Austin Josefina. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate the insight I appreciate. You guys have a good show problems. It's human nature to hate problems. The why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Bend things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM. I'm on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety smart loves problems problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT com slash. Smart to learn more about Card Astros Have Garrett Cole and the bump the race they're gonNA come at you with the whole kitchen sink stugatz glass now. Starting new on the glass is his last name glass and he's now starting or his name glass. Oh isn't that awesome glass but who else can come up with a ranking. Everybody because I was talking about Charlie weren't tyler glasses now down like they just made an announcement and Roy was updating last now starting I know no. That's not what it is is I don't know baseball. These live at our show with Stugatz on ESPN radio. We've got celebrity prognosticator coming up. That's going to be a little bit. We've got to go to the bucket of death. I oh so many penalties. I've I o cat in the hat. I've gotta be a raiders. There's Fan I gotta be Darth Maul I gotta be missing something I've gotta be Spartan soldier he's got you gotta put crocs on your hand her entire show that that was one of the easy one. Yeah can you guys figure out from your help me figure out how to get to God's back because the idea I'm going to honor my beds but he still does things from four four years ago now. I know how to get him back. They mean no you don't I don't know anything for four years ago to go on the clevelanders. How many do you have to did deliver the speech from any given Sunday right but that that's why I haven't done you Def poetry jam? That's the one from years back though everything else. I'm current on everything else. Also there's other ones. I have to wear lacrosse equipment to three those from this year. Though is what I'm saying. Well the one that you owe. Oh from four years ago that you denied was the poetry jam right right. I mean Kim read a poem I I don't know how to do. I mean what do you want me to do their shows. That is the penalties this guy. I thought it'd be funny. You don't have to actually write it in Po- do not know how Def poetry jam goes. It doesn't have to rhyme. Does you just given sports. Takes Roses are red. Red Violets are blue. Here's my poem bleep. You not here not here off. It's supposed to be five minutes and supposed to be on the clevelanders stayed. Yeah Well Uh not the Cleveland or stage was supposed to be a whole segment. That was like Inspired by Stuart Scott's like poetry jam session that he did with highlights. We'll do it after Thanksgiving okay. Yeah I can't believe us. Why were you arguing with Dominique Foxworth at the at the wedding Dominic Foxworth is now saying after after saying it was unethical for the dolphins to take the field this year? Being that kind of bad because someone is going to get hurt. They've won two games and now he's saying that Brian floors should be considered considered for coach of the jeeze. Well as you know he played. He played in his playing career. So he's really good at backpedaling. And that's what he's doing right now. Ain't clay. I went after him at the wedding. Saying the same thing like Oh week to you were saying that these dolphin players were endangered. Now they're doing okay. I feel like they're safer now and he started saying that wasn't what his argument was. But it was was. We played sound of it before. And now he's just all in with this backpedaling saying floors should be inconsideration for for coach of the year which I agree with by the way because he's done a hell of a job. How this Dominique? It's rich right Mike. You saw them at the at the wedding. He got really defensive. Really loud really. You agree with them. I mean it's a hell the job he's done this year coach of the Gruden just rich. Let's not let's not focus on me agreeing with them. Let's focus on the meat of the story here. which is Dominique? Just totally backpedaling. Totally backing off. What he said might come on? You agree with me. Sure yes you know. What would you do me a favor? Chris who's got the worst point differential is the bengals. Are the Dolphins Hooman. Lots of back door covers for those bengals. So the Dolphins or minus one sixty six. The bengals reminded US one twenty nine coach of the year. I mean I saw. I saw their forty points worse than the bengals. Imagine where they'd be with another coach. Is there anyone between the dolphins. Is there anyone between the dolphins and the bengals point differential like what is the third worst point differential redskins at minus one twenty eight. That's it those three coach of the year. Brian Flora's forty points worse than the bengals and racial slurs. If you take take them the ravens game out of the equation there level there there. Even that's right. If you eliminate the ravens coach of the year coach trip the year. What the Hell is dominant? Chris agreed. Maybe I don't agree with them or whatever the key here. He's backpedaling Dominico I. I texted him so he's probably listening right now. I said You'd better be listening to segment because I'm coming after you. You got him good got him. Put It on the pole. Are you allowed as a medium member go from saying that. The dolphins playing is unethical to two wins later making Brian Floor. Is your coach of the ops screwed if against at lebatardshow on twitter foxwoods.

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"The very latest on ezekiel elliott and where he may be on the leave young fell meter also team in u._s._a. Difficulty in finding fifteen guys the colby thirteen old decade with very official list by the way with this panel. Let's go slow. There would have been that this. There's just like opinion-makers on elevators the level escalate into the hardest crazy. We'll get to it in the second. Josina anderson report zeke kill elliot will not play for the cowboys without a new deal. Let's just start right there. National panel bill blast gauge. You believe it's gotten to that point. And how should the cowboys feel. If it has in fact gone to that point. They should feel like going into their wallet and pain in him. Now i know all this talk about running backs being disposable these days the bad contracts given perhaps girly and david johnson. This is a different case he is. He is indispensable. Elliott is indispensable to this team. He's indispensable prescott. He's indispensable. Amari cooper is indispensable to jerry jones who do have who's who's window is closing on winning. The championship prescott scotts q._b._r. On play action passes thirty points better when is zeke's on the few its completion percentage is fifteen percent better. When zeke is a they need. They need to pay to get him in. No clash. Give the l._a. Times and maybe the future agent of ezekiel elliott will see sarah spain well plastic you covered the stats and the stats have been the same since we started this conversation about zeke and so has my opinion ben. Jerry jones is gonna pay him. This date today was being used used early on in discussions as some sort of indicated that he would need to decide because if he didn't hit it by august sixth he would not approve this season towards free agency but that only matters for rookies rookies who need four seasons in order become unrestricted free agents the cowboys already exercise the fifth year option for zeke so he can crew that season next year once they get their deal done and still to be an unrestricted free agent it doesn't matter whether he reports unless he cares about two hundred and sixty thousand dollars plus preseason games forty thousand dollars per training camp and if they don't want to charge him knbr that and find him for that because they decided deal they're not going to so it's the same it's always been. They're going to pay him. He's gonna show up when they of that's what she said podcast e._s._p._n. And e._s._p._n. Dot com it's w._f._a._n. A salary cap budget is real good here. Is there anything left in the bone year. I mean but according to reports ezekiel elliott informed the cowboys of this back in january that he would not play entire season without a new contract so this does not feel like new information from the cowboys and everything that's come out then while it has been sort of hard line in terms of what you expect from these types of negotiations it really hasn't been that bad and if you read some of the quotes from the sources anderson mentioned and she said that he himself doesn't believe that ezekiel elliot's hold that will last through into the into the season they don't want it to so it feels like jerry jones. Who is the one who is more invested in this team ezekiel. It's going to get paid by someone. He's going to try to win for someone. Of course he'd like to do it with the cowboys. Jerry jones the one who wants him to absolutely stay here play for them and it was invested in him winning a championship happy chip with elliot and kevin blog. Let me be the first to congratulate you on making the pro football hall of fame and second your thoughts on if you'll elliott ezekiel elliott our historical. I was there in dallas in nineteen ninety-two helping covering the cowboy. There's super bowl win that year. With a young with with the young running back emmitt smith led the league in rushing guess what he came into the next year and he was only going to be paid less than half a million dollars off of after all he did so he held out. He held until game two of the regular season. The cowboys were into finally jerry. Jones crawled back to the table gave him the biggest contract track running back at every guy that in the n._f._l. At that time and guess what happened to the cowboys they became the so you believes the i believe that's an analogous situation the emmett smith and the ezekiel elliott's the same for you. Jerry has been here. He knows it's amazing. You did that under thirty eight minutes with that hall of fame jacket jacket. You're wearing real quick then the lady on bell meter anybody thinking there's a chance ezekiel elliott could do lady on bell didn't sit out sit out the entire season. He's and anybody polaski the absolutely there is. I think you saw what happened with bill. Got a contract bills got a good job. I think he thinks he's he's eagles healthier yet. Our spe absolutely i do. I do think there's a difference between a guy who has not signed his franchise tender and a guy who was technically under contract for another two seasons with the team whether or not that matters just as you guys i certainly think it matters to jerry jones and what they're losing out on in terms of their window with them so they won't let it yeah. I think the pittsburgh situation should be something jerry jones. It takes a look at because that team was expected to do so much last year. Levy on bell didn't show up. They didn't even make the playoffs. Obviously jerry jones expecting big things from his team and might not take till the regular season. He's in for him. Yeah absolutely it could happen living bill lead guys. No it's about self preservation not only for your wallet but also for your body you may you may lose out on a year in terms of free agency but you get a year in terms of more tread on your tires. We blonde tenuous say for the basketball world world cup it took fifty invitations to get this roster down to fifteen or so thirty five knows ranging being from braun and curry to harden davis to tobias harrison landry chamade jerry colangelo boston the team knowing how he's quoted gregg popovich. He's preaching unity sarah. Do you see this as a unified non angsty team u._s._a. Right now i feel like the players are or not angsty because for them they were invited because of other guys who turned it down so they have an opportunity to be a part of this cultural experience of going to china to represent the united states and maybe get in and good and be possibly on the roster for olympic year which has far more excitement and sort of cachet to it. That's where the coaches. Maybe not so much. If you're popovich and steve steve kerr maybe you were hoping to engender relationships with the cream of the crop and now you've got some great players but maybe not those other guys that you would hope to have the chance to work with so maybe a little angst up their ears. There's i'd be concerned about them not being able to win this and that sort of creates a meaning for it because i think we only get interested if they end up losing here right if they just do what they're supposed to do and go out there and when we say hey the n._b._a. Is the greatest thing we can take our you know be level stars and go out there and win but there should be some level of concern that they're not going to win this. I think there was an overconfidence back in the mid to thousands and you put out a bunch of players that didn't have a chemistry and didn't have a unity and they lost the teams running simple pick and roll place and i think the the u._s. could possibly find itself in that situation again. I think the one advantage is you have while they are stars. They are still more role players and are familiar with it and can fill those roles on this team and play hard and play defense and not be overconfident. I think that might keep this team winning this metal but they should be considered to be. How do you view this team. The team that started party with fifty invites and now finally has fifteen well. I think this is part of their process and i think they are trusting and remember after two thousand four the tobacco at the olympics i think they lost like three games and came back with the bronze. They changed the whole system. Colangelo went out and put together this deal where you're going to have a select team have team that your practice with a team a team that provides you some sort of depth so that you can pick the players in the stars going into the olympics olympics and that's what this is all about and all that but i don't think anybody remembers that we've had six world cups now since ninety four in which n._b._a. Players have been allowed now. The play and the u._s. is only one half of them. Use lobbies won a couple of spain one one so you you just go through this process now and you aim towards the you'd say this is the process process working well that lebron or he could opt out this year become back for an olympic year. Absolutely the process is working with the team was working working real easy. I disagree with you completely. I think is going to roll through this tournament the best team in europe now you've been in slovenia because of the weird rules fiba rules didn't qualify for this world cup so so they're not going to be in there the u._s. We still have so many better players than everybody. I think the bigger picture is here. How does popovich do in his first tenure as coach of this team. How does the team react to him. And how did they behave themselves. How are we good. Sports worlds looking at us now with with difference different sort of look as they have in the past. How are we going to react how the player's gonna react. I think that's a bigger bigger picture. I think the the victory tournament. There's no real you wanna address. That spain's second ranked team in the world. They still have marcus later serbia. They still have a lot of players. You've heard so. I think there is some still some serious competition in this <hes> in this tournament for the u._s. All right we move on. Let's talk kobe apocalypse co nergal n._b._a. Dot com n._b._a. T._v.'s unofficial very official old gates koby thirteen all decade for the twenty ten outrage indignity up in arms israel. Go <hes> none of the above at least not for kobe bryant because he didn't play but six years in this in that decade. It wasn't really the best colby and it's the third team. That's perfectly respectable. What kawhi leonard is doing on that. First team is beyond beyond me. He didn't really come into our lives until about two thousand and thirteen fourteen and yes. He won a championship with toronto. Yes he might be the best player in the league in two thousand nineteen but puts them respect john russel westbrook man that dude had a dominant decade three back to back to back seasons of triple triple doubles and m._v._p. I mean he should be on that first team over koi i know i know there's position stuff like that but i just haven't blog as the first team well. I mean this isn't as studying as joe button being the number three rapper yeah. It's pretty much up. There and i think you can see how upset coby was in that particular photograph but you know what i think. It's about right for kobe. We're talking about a guy who barely played half of the decade that you're talking about in which you should be considering him for something more than third team. He's still average would like twenty three twenty four. We're points a game and the games and seasons that he did play made some all stars teams and that kind of thing but that's not the kobe that we're going to remember. There were better they. We're better players have been better players in the last hour spain. Yeah i mean it's not just that he only played six seasons but one of those seasons was three games. One of those seasons was thirty thirty five games. One of those seasons was fifty games. These were shortened injury shortened seasons that one title that finals m._v._p. Is we'll guess who also has a couple of those in that timespan is being andre gala finals m._v._p. And his team won dirk nowitzki finals m._v._p. And his team won. You can't limit no here where they're really succeeding. You have to look at the bulk volk of of the material and i mean i'm also equally as surprise kevin that no woman has ever tried to wrap and been good at it. That's even crazy to dard hard all right. Now we find away finally in los angeles here bill plaski please on kobe thirteen decade. I have to acknowledge. It's a proper place for him. I covered him during that time he was on fumes a lot of that time he was shooting the ball out of that time he was heard a lot of that time i think even koby would say so except for sixty point retain every game. That was the most important thing he did or the most visible thing you did during that time. I think that the reason people are outrageous. Kobe in recent years since retirement has become even more famous more allies link because number one lebron came out here and didn't get it done as trying to be number two all of his off the court things i quote become larger than life but this talk all right people making this case that kobe deserves thirteen decades. Say goodbye to your men. She's they get a break right here. <hes> check this out real quick baseball players day. Here are the uniforms they're gonna be unveiling all whites and all black. Do oh not exactly sure how. I feel about reality in all flash air. All the trip is suppose oh you you don't see ella technology truth brought to you by geico ars truth teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis how why birthday party pizza slice kitten soccer ball pineapple proof it so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. What are you talking about. Paperclips shoulder shrug high hi five wizard hat what gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more welcome back to around the warn coming to you from the heineken heineken river decades peers seventeenth fire sale. We're going to start with cleveland browns head coach freddie kitchens indicating the days of inside information and unnamed sources and stuff like that have ended for the cleveland browns the days of inside information and the days of of <hes> unnamed sources and stuff like that have ended so you're not gonna get information like that ever anybody if i ever see it. They're fired immediately. Whoa they're fired immediately. If there's any non his leaks ourselves that flash i'm selling it here. It comes all the talk about how great the browns are gonna be and help sign. They're gonna be everyone said quietly. Wait a minute never coach in the n._f._l. Before the head coach at anyway angela and sure enough here it is acting like a rookie head coach being distracted by things that shouldn't distract and causing his own distractions. I can't sell this enough and i can't sell the factor freddie kitchens in his first test spain. Yeah i'm selling this first of all. That's a message you put in your meetings to your staff not to the media so that your staff appears it and then figures out that they're not supposed to leak something and bob. Wiley is the guy who caused this guy who had some comments about whether freddie kitchen should have been hired as the head coach. He's currently unemployed. They'd all you need to say. Is i respect bob. He said what he said. I gotta get to the work. It's in front of me which is being a head coach in the n._f._l. I agree with bill. This is not a great start while it is very much on brand with this team to be over confident and brash in everything else it is it does create you supposed to create this type of culture. You're you're not just supposed to say hey. This is the way we're going to go about it. When down the road there is a story on the browns with an unnamed source now. This creates a story who said it. Maybe this person's going to be fired. There's going to be more our conversation around the teams unnecessary blackstone and not only that but to say that in front of the media is like chum in the water and he's just turned them all into sharks arts. I know that if i were reporting i'm in cleveland. I'm after every unnamed source. I can find. I'm gonna turn out every story. I can uncover fire sale to the hottest team in baseball foale since the all-star break any guesses anybody anybody come on right on the screen right here in new york baseball mets fifty seven seven and fifty six now on the season back in this thing manager mickey callaway says buyer sell this thing and whether the mets are back in it sarah. I'm buying that. It's fun for mets fans to have something to be invested in buying their redeeming themselves for questionable move before the trade deadline that none of us really understood. I guess yes they are buyers. I guess they are contending. I'm selling that. They're really in it. I think there are seven teams that are three and a half back in the wild card the whole lot. That's still needs to happen for them to take over that spot and i turned on this game for one pitch. I saw three to pitch to pete alonzo. He hit out and obviously celebrated like it was the post season and i said what's going on here with the men two and a half games back look since the break and they've got the nationals and the braves as coming up starting this weekend so they might be they have your reality and they have your attention. How about you kevin blackstone. Yeah i wouldn't want to look back and see the nets the mets gaining on your meeting the nets and the phillies have fifty nine wins apiece. They're top of that wildcard. He everybody else's in their fifty seven fifty six wins and they're right right there too and they have added pitching now. Anything can have flash. They have as much chance as the chicago cubs have at this point. I would your oh ooh. Can you know it it. They have great their studies picci's unbelievable again second-best all-star break <hes> best overall e are starting to year eight this year syndergaard wheeler added stroman. I mean th in what's the point across yeah i mean they have. They have cy young staff at syndergaard. They have the pitching to make you think anything's possible. Although i i would not advise going after sarah spain that way with the cubs hasn't worked out well. You will want the facts. It's okay sure good luck with that buyer. Sell three big sets the shower because you're hitting too hard in training camp. Texans rookie defensive back lonnie johnson junior multiple all hits in this joint practice with the packers israel gutierrez it instagram post check. This out later deleted it but he was at least aware of these. Do you think it's a lesson he's learned. I feel like he's learned it. It's something that he did twice. Supposedly in non-contract drill non contact drills and said the just he wants is to be great. This is not how you become great. This is how you become or how you gain. A reputation probably should've been tossed after the first hitch gotten a second chance. I mean why why should someone in a shared practice be treated for possible concussion. That's absolutely ridiculous the lesson now what bothered me was that o'brien said this is no oh big deal. This makes you wonder about the culture of the texans whether this guy's been doing this in practice all along since battled back in march and how they're enabling encouraging is subtly virgin regionals yeah. This doesn't make a good name for you. This shows disrespect for your opponents that your non contact non tackle session and you're still trying trying to show him up and get something done like this and i agree with bill with o'brien. He's saying this is no big. Deal wild flourish saying it is and that makes you wonder if behind the scenes he's given him a pat on the back. Look your moxy son. Even his landau dudes that our defense not expecting the point you agreed with bill bill gets them this points for his yearly story the average. We'll do that but you guys. I think you need to have a word about this called for you. Guys have gone dares blackstone. That's a showdown that's next two minutes gutierrez blackstone showdown to incredible scenes and vase as for yesterday ceo load the d. has family pop was being interviewed while we saw his first home run it it was all caught javara and microphone say hello to the martini family knicks the as in chicago the city did he grew up in gentleman. Lets you israel who's best. I mean it's gotta be the marlins orlands not only was it happening while he was being interviewed. They're not only did he follow up with a great shout out to all the family members right afterward and mentioned that we we we hate one off. What'd you gotta love the other one because it's in his place that's his home. That's where he grew up and to see how many of you could do that. You know our first column our first story in the plaisted we grew up and mom and dad and all the family celebrated. That's tremendous imagining terraced. Eric interviewed while you're writing your i. I don't think he's gonna make deadline. I don't think he's gonna incredible perfect. This is what it's all about. You get a point. We move on best save all of the bike. Follow me here okay j._j. Watt after rotting in brick in the kid's bicycle doing the packer custom. He bought a new but but steve odin doll motorcyclists in the grand prix talk about save on a bike i you oh it's gotta. The save on this bike ride here motorized thing going who knows how fast and the guy hangs onto an stays upright all j._j. Watt was going to suffer was maybe a little bump upon his knee. Come on. I mean the save on the motorbike. Isn't that just how the flintstones all road motorcycles anyway. I've seen that for hundreds of years j._j. Watt doing a great thing. I don't even know how he fit on that bike but broke the buy a new one good job j._j. Cruciate a good flintstone reference but it's not enough for the facetime kevin blackstone in the world learned today that we lost one of our greatest writers tony morrison at age eighty eight first black woman to win the nobel prize for literature and inbetween all great novels beloved ensuing song of solomon and the bluest eye her first i she wrote a sportsbook she wrote or edited the greatest which was about our lee she couldn't stand boxing didn't have much of a taste for sports but she was so so attracted to the owner of our lee that she contributed her great talent to putting together a story toni morrison a life. Well done celebrate for us tomorrow twenty three hour break.

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At the Podium: "Scramdrick", Mailbag & Pressers

"In Sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other hey there podcast pals I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season is has issues with this team for sure he has issues with this team and you know are the Eagles having trouble dealing with success they are do some players prefer nick foles over having trouble handling winning and he's talking about winning the two thousand seventeen super bowl they they have had a hard time it seems getting back to that level they we all know kind of through alshon Jeffery as the name for the anonymous source of Anderson is that was was made that maybe not correct you know I mean it certainly seems like Orlando scandic on the record as opposed to the off the record person that I talked to before but if you do an advanced twitter search on juicy Anderson's Twitter and Orlando scandic you will find that ex-communists where a tweet of his comments and she added quote on record and I just wondered what she was implying there you know could she could be saying well listen here's somebody the eagles are at the podium and we've got it all for you right here powered by SP nation and weeding green nation DOT com. I'm your host John Stolnis you can follow me on twitter there has been a lot of breaking news involving Orlando scandic that was broken by Josina Anderson so just throwing that out there everybody I mean I think Howard Eskin would make the playoffs last year and won a playoff game but it was a real struggle and this year they're three and four to start the season and maybe the mindset of some of the players seems to be that they're a super bowl team at John stolnis coming up we're going to hear from Doug Peterson I'm going to give you my prediction on that game coming up here in just a second as well and we're going to open up the mailbag here I guess I'll be stepping you think do but this whole thing is a scam do you guys all realize that that this whole thing is a scam that went on on Friday afternoon here but with Orlando going on that you hit but they hit on most of the major points and so I'm going to let you know I'll let them I agree with just about everything they had to say you know Kinda low class you know as soon as you leave it team you go out and you trash it but of course skeptic is her you know how he roseman cut him because he wasn't productive but for in scandalous is he seems to think that he'd been playing some pretty team and eventually they're just going to turn it around and you're just a couple of small things away but you know we came into the season thinking the same thing that this was a super bowl contender and they have come far from Lang like it I do think Josefina Anderson's tweet about skeptics comments I'll go back to calling him skander because I sound like an idiot if I keep calling him scattered Josephina Anderson's tweet about scandal the podium to answer just a couple of twitter questions just a few minutes but before we get to all that let's go over this Orlando Scammed Rick stuff and I'm calling mamand scammed rick I know that it's kind of a talk radio a highly recommended you've probably already listened to it at this point but b. l. and Jimmy Kamsky chatted about it with an emergency Orlando Scam Dick BGN radio podcasts that you're GonNa WanNa make sure and went yeah I think they probably do but that ain't news we've known that coming in that's why I hated the foles shrine last year why I didn't think the full shrine was funny last year S. One and and bashing Howie Roseman and Malcolm Jenkins and talking about how the teams having having trouble with winning and listen there's darn good football and that he's been a scapegoat for everything so you know you know all that nonsense you get it you know I I do think there is some some truth to what he had to say about this team is a little bit of a story there is some truth and there is certainly some truth in what scammed had to say but if you want to hear if you want to hear some some good thoughts on his initial comments I because there were people in the locker room that prefer foles over once which makes things incredibly uncomfortable for whence especially when you know that he is the future one of the things that are does set in that first interview with skip and with Shannon was that this team does recognize this is Carson Wentz his team and Nick foles is not coming back through that you're so I don't care what Nick foles did in an eagles uniform while he was here he yanked the future this team Carson Wentz Doug Peterson Mike grow have to figure out a way ars waiting for Nick foles to come back it isn't happening but this is clearly a hit and run by a marginal player who played for a division rival has to get Carson Wentz in rhythm these guys have to figure out a way to get this offense moving forward together and it's not going to happen if teammates are continuing to looking looking out the Jenkins was the guy everybody gravitated towards because he is seen as the team leader I think overall is a team captain but he's the guy that everybody goes to and he said flat out we don't need that mother by the way responded to waterland scheduled to say in the locker room after the comments and they made the comments I think after be LG and Jimmy Kamsky recorded their podcast and I up obviously from one guy it's all coming from one Guy Orlando scandal maybe maybe we don't know that for sure but he said it's you know it's Philadelphia I've talked to the field keep happening and maybe that's the larger question we should be talking about are there a lot of larger off the field issues maybe a lot of these issues over the last few weeks for this culture in that locker room and schedule took a shot at Lane Johnson for Johnson's comments after the game on Sunday that some players were late to meetings and all that stuff lane did admit all career the Dallas cowboys and is clearly a malcontent that he got cut by Howie Roseman. I mean this guy doesn't agenda you could see it as plain as day eagles players there's who've come here and it's like we want to be a part of the culture and we want to be a part of what happens here but obviously not everyone is built for it and that could be that seems to be a shot at scandal not being built then when he talked to reporters at practice after practice on Friday that he probably should've kept his mouth shut that he did not say the right thing and he probably shouldn't have said anything at all because he couldn't back it up with this for in the room and he basically said no one there that is in that locker room for three weeks Kim no can know anything about what's happening inside of it on on why the issues off a big example but the eagles are fighting back against scandal here and that's that's what's clear what's also clear is that I think scandic is doing this for a paycheck because not only because you wonder if a loss creates an implosion that reverberates so much that it fractures the locker room I you're almost scared to see what's going Lane Johnson needs to to not talk cryptically he needs to stop laying blame for missed meetings and stuff after he played the worst game of his career right now players from it doesn't sound like it was confined to the field so that's all this was this was a scam this was a chance for him to hit at a team he never liked and that's it and to make money while he's that has people making outrageous statements and claims and and making news with what they have to say in Orlando this is an audition Orlando scandal is auditioning for his next locker room is is talking about it what we don't know is what happens moving forward what happens now Malcolm Jenkinson for the first time since he's been there they had a players only team meeting he's delusional into thinking he's been playing great and that he feels like he's being scapegoated and he wants a career in TV you get what happened on Friday and that's what's going on what happened next if they lose their third straight game on Sunday I mean what would certainly help is a convincing win in buffalo against the bills and it's certainly a game the eagles can in this week and he said I'm not GonNa talk about what was said I think at the end of the day guys in this locker room trust one another and believe in one another this all sets up an incredibly important football game on Sunday at this point on just need to shut up and play and so we kind of know some of the things that are going on here we know what scandic is we we kind of know what he's Angling for we know how the Eagles Polish to lot of things he probably there's probably a personal beef and maybe it's a long standing personal beat between him and Malcolm Jenkins because that's stuff sounds personal doing it to start his next career while he's doing it that's what this was this dude was a longtime cowboy he was upset he still wasn't a cowboy he talked to his former cowboy t on and he started he did his whole spiel there too he's making the TV rounds in on the heard he was asked if he wants to play football again he said Nah I think I'm done with football we'll give you a quick injury update from players from Doug Peterson on Friday none of the players who missed practice this week will play on Sunday which of course means no Desha Jackson Doug on and get into a career on TV he's he's on F s one which is which makes its name being the station that has takes they wanna be the station Super Bowl starts off three and four player start lashing out because they don't know what to do with what they're feeling and when a guy like Orlando scandal that comes in and gets cut and art real quick let's open up the mailbag here and let's go to lenny are at four thirty he asks if Jackson would have had the operation he declined to get mate's leading up to the game if he could play he'd still WanNa be a cowboy he'd WanNa be a cowboy now now look this locker room is clearly clearly frustrated by how they're playing and they're not handling it this is close to getting back and who knows what they do with Sidney Jones whether or not Jones will actually get a snap this week if they're gonNA make him the slot corner or a backup and one of the outside spots forward here but you can look at that thing with hindsight but it's hard to know at the time it's hard to save the doctors are telling you you can get better by rest and Rehab as opposed to a surgery wouldn't he almost be back now at one hundred percent you know it's an open question I think a lot of people think he could have been backed by now you never know how a player's GonNa respond to surgery though and that's actually not even sure when he comes back it'll be one hundred percent so this this is kind of shaping up and looking like a law season for the Sean Jackson I hope that's not the case as we moved banged up linebacking core that also has eljay fort and Zac Brown over the last couple of weeks the team cut them the eagles will get Ronald Darby back this week he thinking that you can get a player back without undergoing surgery you do that because anytime you cut somebody open stuff can go wrong grant he probably would have been fine the vast mature and he said he's another one that's getting close obviously he's been running in progressing we'll see where he's at today with his Rehab hopefully we can get a maybe on the grass next week and see but they don't want to rush him back Carson Wentz is earning that big money deal they need their draft picks to they needed only hit on their draft picks they need them to play pretty quickly that's why are they gonNA whiteside to have put him on a few weeks ago in hindsight yes if he'd had the operation he declined he might be back in one hundred percent by now it's the team is still saying it's turn it around but I don't think anybody's optimistic that that's going to be the case so yes of course that's why the eagles cut eljay four that's one of the reasons they let him go was to get that compensatory lack of production and playing time has has really hurt this team so much it's why miles sanders rough transition as a running back as a runner as a second round pick is already the time the odds are high but even if there's not something life threatening you could get an infection to something can happen that can that can set things back and I know Doug keeps saying that things are going the way they thought so he won't play in Buffalo of automatic clear the concussion protocol and he was back out on the practice field but he's not gonNA play on Sunday No Nigel Brad and once again which is bad news you always want to try to have player avoid getting cut if possible not cut cut from the team cut within the scalpel you don't want that if you if you can avoid it if you're of that particular pick you don't have that young talent right now you have not been able to develop the cornerbacks with some of your early picks the Sidney Jones pick has really hurt this team maybe round draft pick back but you'll I guess we'll see over the next few days between now and the trade deadline if they're willing to sacrifice some of those trade picks to get a player like Robbie Anderson or or law sophy toward a youth movement Jenkins Johnson Brooks Kelsey will be around yes but do you see a youth movement on the horizon with ten draft picks in April obviously yes that's what they want especially now has been so tough and that's why not having a first round pick the year before why drafting a second tight end in Dallas Goddard as talented as he may be may not have been the best utilization should be a full go after a good week of practice Annella jalen mills and Ronald Darby their starters back on the outside and hopefully that will help settle things down sounds like a Khurram stuff because locker rooms are harmonious when teams are winning but when a winning team a team that is perceived to be a winner has expectations to go to the WE'RE GONNA go with the Sean I gotta think they're surprised that it's taking this long and maybe should they should have put him on a few weeks ago I think if they'd have known he was going to be out this long they probably would from the jets and Leonard Williams of the jets defensive tackle the eagles desperately need help at defensive tackle they might need more help at that position than they do wide receiver and career that's what this is so that's not to say there wasn't some truth in what he had to say but this is also a consider the source type situation that he probably much further down the draft at that point there's a real balancing act they obviously do need to get younger and need some of these draft picks two hits and they need to produce your over the next few years for sure Huey P. at fly eagles fly asks could we pull off an Anderson and Williams package of course talking about Robbie Anderson these speed wide receiver side not to go for Robbie Anderson especially if the prices to if it's a three I think they probably make the move regardless because they're going to use one of their top three picks on speed wide receiver anyway so why not why you would opt for the surgery David Thome at D. underscored Tomi asks with how he playing the wind now and win in the future game since two thousand sixteen do you see the eagles shifting the years removed is going to be your fourth string wide receiver and any wide receiver you take in the draft your isn't going to see the field at all so again that's that may not be the right thing to do six and you desperately need some of these draft picks in order to make your team younger as we just talked about and if you if you can't sign one if you if you can't Aaron Bravo fifty-two asks is Nellie our best wide receiver rail real question he's not asking a sarcastic question here asking if Nelson Aguilar's our best receiver get a young guy who is under twenty five who you can probably sign to a longer term deal is just going to be at more money than you than you would if you drafted somebody and that's something they have to consider did he go on the skip and the Shannon Sharpe show undisputed I think is what it is I don't use I don't watch a lot of F s one but then he went on the herd with Colin cowherd later much as they would do to is probably too much and the price would probably be too high for both of those guys so no I don't think package deal is going to work there last thing Erin win you know they're one and a half point underdogs but this is a game the eagles can win and I'm GonNa give you my prediction in just a minute but that's the big question how does the team respond to all of this law I receiver in terms of getting separation we see that we see them getting open down the field is can't catch the ball he's one of the lowest rated wide receivers in all of football across all the these guys to an extension and I don't think they'd WanNa signed Williams to an extension because he's a little bit of an older player just doesn't make any sense for me anyway to try and trade for both of them actions can play a part in the eagles struggling that it may have an effect you don't usually hear that from a coach but he did say that the team has responded well after a lot of distractions I do think that if they strike out with Robbie Anderson that maybe they switched their focus to Leonard Williams but I don't think they're gonNA want sign to expiring contracts I think one is if you're looking at separation ability he's rated by pro football focus as the army by football football outsiders or I'm trying to remember now as the tenth here's the issue with both of these guys they're both on expiring contract so let's let's say you have to give up a two and a four for Anderson and Williams to get both of those players that's too buffalo this Sunday let's take a quick break and when we get back we'll hear from Doug Peterson at the podium baseball truly it is awful I'm phillies writer just include but no Nelson Aguilar as bad as the eagles wide receivers are he's not the best wide receiver on the team. That distinction does still go to alshon Jeffery even though jeffries skill set right now is I don't I don't look at these games on emotion very much I do think this Sunday is an emotion win and I think they get on top early and I think they dominate the buffalo bills in they might just trade a three for Robbie Anderson for this year and just bite the bullet on losing the three and hope one of their compensatory picks they can they can hit on a player there although you know you're way but you really wonder how that Dallas would have gone have got it doesn't fumble the ball on the opening possession and if whence doesn't fumble the ball on the strip sack they hold onto the footballs or it falls instead stats stats together we'll survive whatever baseball can throw at US Hey Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny are because Alshon is going to be back you know that Desha Jackson's going to be back in so if they have Robbie Anderson here again our Theta whiteside now your second round pick that's anecdotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of Breaking News Buffalo Bills this Sunday I'm GonNa say Eagles thirty one buffalo bills thirteen and you know for my pants predictions I have picked the Lions to beat them I pick the Vikings to beat them will join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the phillies have hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical head and a neck injury right that he that he suffered so he's technically still in in the protocol until he clears really both both injuries so that's why he metrics but then again so is Matt Collins and so are thankful whiteside for the few amount of snaps that are a whiteside has gotten on the field but no he's not better than Sean Jeffery Alshon Jeffery has grated I think this has got to be a Doug Peterson Carson Wentz week where they dial up a game plan that works I don't know if the eagles are going to take the ball I again that did not work well in Dallas because they fumbled things right now with the eagles to me I think it's a Bilo opportunity I almost see it as a bilo to go to go in on the Eagles and buy them this week I think the eagles will come back think they're better than the bills offense and I think as bad as they have played the eagles offense can put up points on the bills defense which is very good bill has the bills do have a very good defense pretty well here's a wide receiver so far this season but Nelson Aguilar does have more speed than Shani's the you know if he could catch track the ball he'd certainly be the bigger player option bob still dealing with us from soreness thing is with with just to be clear he's unlike mascot fights announcers fleeing the be with early and unfashionable pants that coach where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be think I think they're gonNA rally around this I think I think they're gonNA rally around the Orlando Scandal stuff I think they're going to rally around Carson Wentz I really do think this team is going to put a hurting on the the sean is still working in conditioning won't practice with the team but he'll do his running in rehab like like he's been doing Nigel will ramp his we would not make it this week would expect rb to be out there you know fully obviously Jalen came out of the game well he'll be out there salute every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants with Warren Middle School we also do talk about college football every now and yeah well we know that possibly of automatics would not be available still I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what is this all underneath an eagles player and they recover it that whole game might be totally different so you just have to the ebbs and flows week to week oftentimes don't make any sense so we are at our lowest as I mentioned earlier they held the players only meeting I think this game against the bills you could break it down by a lot of XS and os I think the I think the bottom line is as bad as the defense has played podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin Clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin Endless rozier subscribe on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP kind of defensive tackle help and then that's what they might have to do because you're not going to see them punt on two thousand nineteen now they lose on Sunday and fall to three and five they just might the more limited than it was back in two thousand seventeen all right prediction time how are the eagles going to respond to this week of turmoil Peterson said on Friday that the oilfield hey can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP who noble not available not available Rehab up this week we'll see where he's at I don't expect him necessarily practice today Timmy Jernigan thank you gonNa ramp his progression but but won't practice with the team necessarily he'll be off to the side who else is on your list then Jason and continued success with Justin and Liz Rocha subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP a little bit longer probably you know week to week with him in and respond positively I just think just how they're talking you know one of them they they want to get back out on the practice field yeah I mean we're down to you know we're down to really one guy with Fletcher we had to make a couple of moves there so all part of the correct mistakes WANNA put forward they want to get to the next game I mean all those things are just signs of a of a team that's wanting to to get better and that's what I see oh really good really good this team is the team is mad they're upset disappointed in how are we that's something we'll look into obviously after we get the get the report back from you know from the police how things are going to come up and and so we do the best we can to to educate our players and try to protect them the best we can else these last two games they're embarrassed obviously from the other day and so they they they're which is good I mean it's it's it's not good illusion what comes out of that obviously we do our best to protect our players here on premise but obviously they have personal lives and we all have personal lives and and they were making sure that he's still dealing with soreness obviously A so we're still working with that range of motion all that before we put them back out there I are would have put him you know eight weeks or so out but but this rainy season close are still concussion symptoms effective Mukasa how are you handling the police are handling it it's a personal issue so I'm out of it we'll look into it and and obviously the police get involved and and really from that standpoint I can't do anything other than than than you know here the results of the investigation might be a question for him honestly I think he's after watching him in practice last week coming back from injury you know that he's he's battled injury as far as you know the testing all that stuff was just the symptom of the symptoms are fine he's okay from that it's the neck and that's that's the concern for us and whether players yes no we got to prepare you know like we've been doing I think we have to maintain our trust in our process that we talk a lot about and how we go about that and sometimes the messaging from your perspective this week did anything changed urged them to take ownership of I think the biggest thing for me is is every day Arthur years ago when he didn't play where he didn't address that kind of step back in Washington to now crawls is getting close to he's he's going to work he probably won't practice with ten million will practice with the team he'll do his conditioning and all that often it's available see what see what we can do but you know we're we're GONNA we're GonNa do what's best for the Philadelphia Eagles as you know and I think that's that's where we start they are now I mean he he's right where rubber we expected

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"No one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open and secure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible. But we need another no hatred. Probably not whooping or gods planning right there. I figure what the heck is going on. They had to have known. Of course they did. They should mean that Tom Brady had did did not catch them. Flatfooted this morning with this announcement. Anybody last night remember. What's that he met with them? Last night wasn't the first time they thought I mean I for anybody. Just jumping their car right now for the handful of us. That are still going to work every morning. Tom Brady posted on social media that he is leaving the Patriots. So this is not this. Is Tom Brady Sang? I'm moving on to somewhere else. But the Patriots had to have known that this was not only a possibility but as it turns out a likelihood somebody now bill belichick and say he doesn't pay attention to what he wants to rubber. Doesn't pay attention all. He wants to somebody in the bills watching. Espn somebody doing newspapers and blogs somebody knew about this was the rumor mail so no didn't get blindsided by this at all. No not at all. Like someone would just recently ticks me just now from up in that area just twenty years forget run he say twenty dollars say it was twenty years. Yeah and and so. They're satisfied when you get twenty years out of that. That's just you know it was special. There is not a person anywhere in any sports organization anywhere said. Hey I'm GonNa give you twenty years. You'RE GONNA win six tunnels yes. Oh of course but re the kids to you. If you said we're GONNA win the Super Bowl once every ten so they've gotten everything they could ever want out of it but what they do next. That's a big question mark and we're Tom Brady goes next. That's a big question mark. We'll get into that coming up in just a little bit now. There was some other. Nfl News took place last night. Before this kind of hijack the entire operation the Krona Virus Deandre Hopkins one of the best wide receivers in football is now in the NFC west with the rams and this is not a guy that's on the back. He's twenty seven years old. He's in the prime of his career. He just finished a season where he had zero dropped passes none. He didn't drop a pass and the Texans just moved him to Arizona which got a young dynamic quarterback. He's got a young dynamic head coach. They've got some position players. That are pretty good guys. They've got some draft picks it they're able to use to build this team the NFC west with that deal just got very very difficult it it dig it difficult for the NFC West but for the life of me. I don't know bill. O'brien was doing. I have no idea every since he's been there. He's Kinda screw things up from a personnel standpoint for the Houston Texas. If you think about David Clowney he screwed that up at the end. He waited at the end for that. Then you talk about Hopkins you talk about a guy that you're taking away from a young quarterback that is just now starting to hit his stride and we'll talk about this more. I think Damon would. He's on the Damien. Woody is on the line now former teammate at Tom Brady former. Nfl Player and another member of the list of people. That tried to tell you key that Tom Brady was leaving New England. Audie Daimiel Damn Damian. Good Morning Good Morning. Good Morning Gentleman who man. We're good until we saw well. I was good. I saw the news. The Brady was leaving New England. Figure out what else he wants to do in terms of football. Because I certainly didn't see this happening coming. And no matter what people were telling Me Damien. I still felt like because of the situation. It was just the right place to play football for him that he was going to go back to New England after flirting with everybody else. Wolke key I bet you know I've been saying for months on all the different platforms. I feel like Tom with this. Was it. Tom was leaving New England. And all you had to do like I told people follow some of the bread crumbs here on what Tom Brady has been doing. Sold his home. In Massachusetts case family moved in Romans for a couple years now that the family was ready to move on. Okay like it's just been a lot of break proves that has been out there that it was bigger than just a just a solely football decision. You know the TB twelve grand. Tom Wants to blow that up. So when you fact all that in any combined that with what? Tom was working with as far as weapons in New England to me. Was just like toms out of here. Thomas gone and I know it's hard for people to especially the New England area to to fathom because they'd been spoiled for twenty years but all good things come to an end man. And we'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT BILL TOM. That's the or that's the fascinating aspect of the story from the outside looking in. Who Do you think is most excited about this new Adventure Brady? Who GETS APPROVED FOR TWO YEARS? It was me your is. It gets to prove for a lot longer if he wants to. They was always me man. You have to Alpha's either to Alpha males That as as homeboy might seem on the outside they are truly competitive man. I can't I don't know if I could stay which one I think both excited to see. Okay let me break away from this from from the other side and I'm GonNa show you exactly what I what I can do So I can't say one person I think it's both of them real quick then. Who has the most to lose? I would say I would say bill like Thomas. Thomas may twenty years the resume Tom put together. I just say I would say I would say Bill in my opinion Damien. Woody joining us here on the morning. Show two time. Superbowl champion played with the Patriots from ninety nine zero three. So He's not in New England. Is it the chargers or bust at this point? Is that the one spot that makes the most sense. Do you think man. Listen don't don't don't discredited Tampa Bay buccaneers. I'm telling you right now deny discredit the Tampa. Bay buccaneers out of this equation. I've said For a while that I always felt like the charges were like the lead the lead is in the clubhouse but Tampa Bay is appealing spot. Too I mean you. GotTa look at Bruce Arians. Who's a quarterback friendly coach? He's worked with Peyton Manning. He's worked with Big Ben. Rothlisberger costs and pomace. The man knows how to put together past game you collaborate. You know him and Tom Brady together. He'll adjust on the fly. They got weapons on offense okay anti bones when he came into the different coordinated last year turned that defense around. So if you're Tom Brady and you're looking at both teams. They're to me. They're both appealing. So I you know I don't know honestly I can't I can't pick. Which is why I think Tommy will go to. What do you think that conversation Damon was like with Mr Craft last night as Tom Brady. Notified them in a meeting at his home that he was going to take his business elsewhere. Keep Mr Kraft's has always view. Tom Like A son. So I think one of those things where you know Mitch a craft with the talk and Tom you know basically told him to scrap book. You know I think it's time for me to kind of spread my wings and fly and and Look at some other destinations and I think it's bigger than football big enough football between those two. You'll think Tom you don't. They missed the craft. One time to lead of course not but I think he has enough love and admiration for Tom that he respects. The decision and Tom will always be part. The family in New England. No question about it but you know ultimately Missa craft left the decision to bill to want to run the whole show. So how much does Tom have left in the tank realistically you know? We know he didn't look particularly good from long stretches last season his final pass as a Patriot was a pig six. What Kim the next team expect out of Tom Brady for leads? One Season Apple. Tom Still got a couple like a couple. Were the good years I mean God think about it. Think about what Thomas onto last year heart. You Element Jacoby Myers in Q. Mikhael hairy who's a WHO's a rookie in Patriots System? Which is very tough and then you don't think he's going to running backs no tight end. I mean listen as much as we love Thomas and thinks he's the goat. I mean you thought it how much how do you want to look it up the degree of difficulty very those guys? But I'm just keeping it real quick before we let you go and and obviously there's a million. There's a draft coming up. There's there's still a bunch of guys in the free agent market but if right now as we sit here on March seventeenth starting quarterback week one for the New England. Patriots is who I'M GONNA go. Jerry stood him. I think bill might say you know what I'm GonNa ride the cheap option. Allocate my money other places most particularly on Defense Damien? Woody fit him two time superbowl champion mates with Tom Brady as well. David thanks for the time. Appreciate it. Thank you sir. Cheapest most familiar especially key like you're talking about if all of a sudden there's no work to be done. We can't get with new guys because of everything that we're doing or at least it's a condensed version of it. Maybe you go with the guy that you know the best yeah and and you drafted him to kind of see where he was at. Just in case Tom Brady. You took him because you felt like okay. I like him. This is a guy that does some things that is interesting for us. And it's not like you have to throw the football all over the lot to win. You run the ball. You played solid defense. They've lost three players on defense does for free agency so they'll go out and draft aside some guys that are out there and make some big splashes. I wouldn't be surprised if they start some of those guys that are still kind of lingering out the energy Davian clown easy all those guys. I wouldn't be surprised if they start looking at the the Little Tins the filers. Some of the replacement suspend some of that money on that side of the ball. Right here as we sit here and again millions if you have if you go back coach and you think about this early. Tom Brady Young. Tom Brady they won on defense. Yeah what looked last year. They won on defense. Let's not I mean last year the number of years they they were the number one ranked defense in the NFL. Last year. Their offense was in the middle of the pack. Their offense was not particularly quarterback like Brady early on with the Super Bowl and Willie mcginest and Bruschi lawyer Milloy and those guys. Tilana those guys. Who the anchors to win the Super Bowl if you go back and you look at his days with the giants it was the Lawrence Taylor and the Johnsons in Harry. Corson's in those guys and one on Defense. I know he has a thousand one offense of records back. I only honesty tell you the only time I really thought about Tom. Brady like vicious savage. Authentic cubeys Randy Moss. Yeah well that's the only time I can think of as wicked. He's been wicked. Eliminate two minute drill fourth. Quarter here talking about his execution at critical moments of the game. He's always had that when when I think about pure offensive. Qb's like drew brees like Aaron Rod. Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes Donny. You can think of that. They had been loaded up and said he's an average thirty seven hundred probably a four. I bet she's a average in his career. Thirty nine hundred yard passive Tom. Tom Brady was never the guy that you feared lighting you up. He was the guy who feared beating every single test. He he was the guy that if okay we're down for there's two minutes to go. Oh no I'll see him lighting me up really. Why why he might go. Tom Brady might go. Thirteen of thirteen to fifteen. Oh just carve you up with would hit new Julian Edelman in hidden Gronk or even when he had hernandez throwing the ball. Faulk out of the backfield. I mean he always incredible surgeon. He was never patrick. Mahomes where he's throwing for fifty four degrees. Those guys wasn't as gain that wasn't what they asked him though. No he was. I mean Super Bowl championship spills for all right. Let's get back to De'andre Hopkins. He is now in the division. Here plus Josina Anderson is going to join us. We'll talk about why that deal made and was it just fact of matter. It was personal that he had to go. We'll get into that all coming up on the morning show seven ten. Espn world has come to a halt all of a sudden because of the corona virus except for the NFL. We've the Tom Brady News. Broker this morning. He's no longer going to return to New England. And then yesterday deandre Hopkins one of the best wide receivers in the entire. Nfl HE GETS TRADED FROM HOUSTON TO THE ARIZONA. Cardinals joining us right now to talk about that is Josina Anderson. Espn NFL insider in front of the show. Good Morning Gene. How are you guys? How are you doing good good? I thought I left you back in New York but I see not whatever man up here. Let Me Tell You. I am a female inside and got to go through all the things of a female unlike their male counterparts. You know what I'm saying. I have full where talcum powder and go to work. Just keep it. Keep the scarf on. You can go up there with the scarf. Oh Oh really want me to do anybody when it keeps on was on Get up with the other day. He walked around the line talking about he he he knew. I was in the makeup room because he was my hair getting pressed out from like five miles away what Jay Walker wasn't broke. That's that's not what I said. Joe Josu Hot. Comb Looks Melissa. Things some went bad in in Houston and my little birdies. Tell me that there was a little bit of a rift going on between bill. O'brien and De'andre Hopkins not only from a money side but also from attitude side where Bill O'Brien didn't want to deal with a guy that would clap back at him. So he decided to send him on his way sending him to Arizona for second round. Pick in and In David Johnson. How bad was that deal? Well I think from a macro standpoint Where they kind of indicate is going on with Some of the players that were in Houston whether it be today the economy whether it be hopkins whether it be doing brown or what have you. I mean what I said last. Nfl Live that you don't want to start seeing Houston. Look like where Jacksonville is now where you know. Players are defecting. Obviously some by not their own accord in some you know trying to push their way out of there But you know to me before I went on. Nfl live yesterday An and the news broke prior to doing the show. I had to call in and basically indicate that there were issues behind the scenes. I WANNA go too deep into some of the things that you know. He was thanked me. But obviously when you look at the trade just on its face. It doesn't seem right. I mean I have people texting me like telling me. I'm not dreaming that you know. De'andre Hawking blessed that it does it all the way accent and what to me a luminated that other issues outside of? Oh well you know. Let's try and see if we can just Leverage the fact that this is a draft that you know has a plethora of wide receivers or you know we can do it at a lower cost or I mean not even getting first round picks for either Debbie and cloudy or De'andre Hopkins when you look at what The Minnesota Vikings were able to haul in after shipping off Step on to last night. I mean just put the put the compensation side by side in those deals now. This situation in me looks like bill. You mentioned Judea Beyond Clown. You also There's Tunsil who traded four in getting in basically has not addressed his contract issue. So there's a problem there. But when you look at it as a whole is bill. O'brien in over his head. As the general manager running the operation do Miss Rick Smith that much you know. That is a very interesting question at least on the backside of what you said. I would be darned curious what ric Smith would have to say about all of this and you know he's recently been on ESPN platforms as a GM inside Iran on our analysts on our platforms Won't go as far as to say he's in over his head. I will go as far as to say that it Kind of underlines the challenge of having both titles you know in terms of trying to run the personnel and also coached the personnel. And sometimes how difficult it can be To separate the two when you need to be Max effort at both and You know to me when I said yesterday as look wide. Receiver don't grow on trees that have the skill set the catch radius the production that the Andrei Hopkinton. Some people have him as top two top three in the entire league. And so whatever issues there were. I always think that leadership is not just in terms of a coach's coaching XS and os or knowing what to do with two minutes left on the clock. It's also being able to manage personalities. It's also knowing who who and how your players are different and how they need to be handled. Whatever whatever their background are whatever their You know talent level is you know and bringing that altogether and I think regardless of what I'm saying. Just look at the tweet. That D Andre Hopkins put out After the trade. You know you're saying something that just lets you know that he wasn't you know crying tears over his departure from Houston Josina Anderson. Espn NFL insider joining us here on the morning show. Has Anybody heard from Shawn Watson and what he thinks about this deal because I would imagine of all the people that might have their eyebrows. Go up he's at the top of the list. Well I tweeted that dishonor. He didn't you know he didn't respond to it. What thing I do know about the Sean is that very you know when it comes to the front facing stuff in his role in public. He's very mindful of that. So you're not gonNA see him coming on twitter and bill. I have to say about bill. Matter of fact he has a very close relationship With Bill O'Brien. But you have to imagine that you know having gone to the playoffs last year. Getting all the way to the division around are losing against the chiefs And having this relationship with the Andre Hopkins where you just know where he is on the villain even have to worry about that even if you're able to get a wide receiver out the draft. I mean now there's a whole another relationship that you have to build let alone. The factor of shortened Off Seasons now that we're going to have with the NFL. I mean so. There's IT's there throws. He could send it the Andre Hopkinton Fleet. Now you're probably GONNA be relying on someone in the draft. You have somebody else. You know that they're in Kenny. That's not the same so I think we all know how he feels about it. Josefina having played this position for a long time at the receiver spot in being in the NFL. In in in doing some good things. It's it's baffling to me. How coach is always think they can place you at the receivers like you're not going in the draft in getting another De'andre African De'andre Hopkins in this draft is just not but coaches always think we can replace that receiver whether it's the giants and O. J. Whether it's now hopkins whether it was when I play whether it was Randy Moss. They always feel like they can replace the receiver seriously. They come on that. But it also allows you to appreciate the coaches whoever you all think whoever I think that are really good at managing personality or you know bringing people whether if you're John Har- whoever you WanNa put in that category Sean mcvay or whoever that is at least from a personality standpoint and you know those are their strengths and allows you to appreciate them even more and certainly beyond Dre Hawkins. does not grow on trees. L. Does Not grow on a tree and we'll see you know the the record always speaks after the fact we'll see how you know the teams. Do you know what their choices after the fact. Be Remiss not to try and get you to look into your crystal ball and predict where Tom Brady is going to land. You have fantastic sources to bug going for you. Well listen. I've been saying on the air you know. Multiple Times that You know when it came to the Los Angeles chargers This was a team that I know that Putting forth you know their due diligence in terms of exploring this avenue. I had mentioned that and I think keyshawn you were there. When I had said that that there were people that were put in their stock into Tom. Brady opening up his production company on the West I and And I think that that is something to definitely look at at the same time you know when I talked to the buck yesterday. They text me and said what's going on. You know decisions made to that. Obviously is a clear indication that they're still waiting to hear. You know what it is that Tom Brady is going to do. And now that it's even more definitive. You know with his you know post. We'll see if there'd be any team that will go back and recently you know or excuse me. Reevaluate their quarterback position You know do the raiders like their move yesterday with Mark In advance of time. Did they know that already? You know I don't know but I definitely would at least say for sure that the charges and the bucks are evaluating that and And we'll see if there's a dark horse that comes in there that none of us are talking about right now. Do me a favor though. Make sure you were you bag. Stay cool off that hot before breakfast. Sally put it right there. I smell thing that we're talking about it. We hear crackling like oil. Espn office just seeing a thank. You very much appreciate. It could not go by. Let's it it must be a black report smacking and I'm talking about alone hallway. We we will break down the intricacies of the hot comb plus the NFC west and what that means for the rams coming up next to the morning. Show seven ten ESPN so this is just a really really weird confluence of events that sports has been. Shut down the major league. Baseball Spring. Training is off. The beginning of the regular season has been postponed indefinitely. The NBA has been postponed indefinitely. The final four was cancelled. March madness cancelled. The Masters postponed the Kentucky. Derby every big event that we've had going on has either been canceled or postponed indefinitely except for the NFL. Just has news coming left and right. Tom Brady is no longer a new England patriot. He's going to go somewhere else Deandre Hopkins one of the best of the best receivers in football is on a new team. Michael Brokers who has been a very good player for the rams for the last few years is on his way to Baltimore Dante. Junior a guy that the rams have had after making that deal with. Jacksonville a couple of years ago he may be honest. But there's just a drew brees just signed a new if they we knew it was going to happen. But it's official. He decided to year fifty million dollar deal the NFL is just full. Steam ahead it is in. You know it's just like the honesty is just like any corporate business is still running. I mean corporations have not shut down there just operating is the way that they would normally operate think about ESPN. We haven't shut down. We are operating differently. We're we're at our own places. Us Three in the studio. We know each other. We don't have to worry. There's not fifty people walking up and down and doing those sorts of things so it's going to be business as usual. They they have now push things back. They'd Council certain things they've they've changed the way. The draft is going to be run. It's going to be a TV event. Only there will be no. Ota's no season conditioning but they're still signing players And I told you yesterday if you remember about signing these players with the NFL says is you cannot bring them in on any visits doctors cannot come out there and see them but if you want to we can get the medical record from the former teams and or they can go to local doctors to get what they need to get checked out before you sign it and that is how that's how business is being done into further notice the seasons since February. Yeah so a lot of these conversations. They didn't just happen. You know two weeks ago. Now they've been in the works. I been in the works and so it was about waiting to the deadline can come so they can actually make it official theses been talking about for weeks and weeks and weeks already so it. Bill Belichick has issued a statement on. Tom Brady that. We've we've gotten to that point. I'm Tom was not just a player. Who BOUGHT INTO OUR PROGRAM? He was one of. Its original creators. Tom Lived in perpetuating our culture on a daily basis. He was a tone setter and a bar razor. He won championships in three of his first. Four years on the field in three of his final six seasons with us while competing for championships in most every season in between this is a credit to Tom's consistency and what separates him. He didn't just perform. He didn't just win. He won championships over and over. I'm going to skip to the last line at says. Sometimes in life it takes some time to pass before truly appreciating something or someone but that has not been the case with Tom his a special person and the greatest quarterback of all time. Where did use you skip the party? Cottam MICHAEL SON. Not seeing that part not seeing that. It's bound greatest quarterback greatest quarterback of all time and all about Tom's commitment. And look this. This is how you know that these guys knew this was this was. This is very polished and clean often Ryan sterile and and and very sterile and very bill. Belichick that this is what you would expect from him. They knew they knew for awhile and much like the Patriots. Always do you don't hear peop- coming from them there are still you know. Jeff Darlington at the front line. Saying hey look this is going to happen but no one really inside. That building was saying anything but they clearly knew. This was sick of coin. Edible everyone except for Jillian element imprint Pantley because when he was with Tom Brady at the basketball game when the court side he kind of said he's coming back and Tom Brady gave his look Eda But he knew he probably knew in his heart. And Tom wasn't gonNA come back but he wasn't go out even say anything like that because to me on the outside looking in it looks like Julian may have loose lips and he may play. He kind of knew but he didn't get information from Tom but he kind of sits around you. You could tell whether or not ills. He's leaving I tell I'll be able to know if you live in New York. I'm waiting for you to make contact with me. My friend for kids key to look over here in my end of the and see what's going on and all. Nfl action take it or shake coming up next all right all sorts of NFL action taking place this morning including the biggest news. Which is Tom Brady announced on twitter? That he is not going to return to the New England patriots key. Let's start right here. Where they Tom Brady question? Tom Brady will be the quarterback of Los Angeles chargers in Week. One taking a shake. Well no what I want to do because last time I took. That's not an option. Well last time I was at zero percents also well for me but I WANNA take time. Brady you all my sources tell me. He is headed to Los Angeles to play for the chargers by sources. You mean me this makes all the sense in the world as you start to connect the dots Los Angeles Great Weather California Kid Production Company. Being here has some roots in Los Angeles and the people that are close to says to me. He's headed in my backyard. So that means La to me. The Los Angeles chargers will become the most popular team in town with Tom. Brady takes shaken for about two weeks so take take for two weeks. I take you know they certainly are going to get some movement. I don't know how much movement if you think about it. This is a perfect situation. Because Philip rivers would never won anything. No so Tom Brady comes in. He takes him he takes it to AFC championship. He's already equal with Philip. Rivers was able to get you in everything so it's like he's a win win situation where whoever follows him. That's whoever follows him. They better be young in New England. They gotta be young. They can't be a why he's been around and they can't do that. Philip rivers couldn't go to New England. No it wouldn't work but a guy like teddy bridgewater or if there was a Marcus. Mariota still out there. He could follow him. Because you know then you're not expecting a whole lot of well. I think you're right. I think that the Tom Brady buzz if he does come to. La To play for the chargers will be incredibly short. Lived because it will be okay cool. Hey that's excited and still the charge winning if they win. That's a different dynamic if they get deep into the postseason than because like. La's about winning. That absolutely matters here but just his mere arrival does not change. You would think that the chargers in a FA- think I'm saying his name right Tomasulo Tom. What'S THE GENTLEMAN Tom Sue? Oh No it's not Tom. So that's the old 49ers coach. Lasko to let's go. Let's go to lasco is smart which I believe he is as good do tom to. Let's go smart which I think he is. He will allow Tom Brady to help him in the personnel department on the offensive side. The ball in terms of players things that they WANNA do implement schemes all much like John. Elway did with peyton manning in Denver situation all right. Let's go kind of what you said a minute ago. The New England Patriots will start a rookie at quarterback for the upcoming season take shaking. Oh no way will be their guide to start with because they're gonNA completely not completely tear down but they're gonNA they're gonNA get a little younger in in. Start to do some things where it will make you think about when Tom Brady. I was the quarterback of the Patriots. Sort of feel to it. The offense line coach isn't there anymore. They've lost three guys on defense. You know who knows what they'll do. Jillian down that this Julian Edelman may be joining them in San Diego or in L. A. But of course in the wherever they play Inglewood. I've been looking at the Josh Rosen situation in Miami or sometime would now be surprised. At all. And Josh Rosen ends up on St. Interestingly or not if it doesn't work for them than Josh Rosen's coach one hundred thirty million dollars or something like that already. They're already making plans to move away from him clearly. He's six four and raw talent. So there's no reason why a bill belichick commander say. Watch this all right so this is another one. That kind of went under the radar. Because of the Tom Brady News. Marcus Mariota is going to be a member of the Las Vegas Raiders. Marcus Mariota will start four or more games for the raiders. Next season take it or shaken. Shaky check But you said I I I shake it because I think him sitting behind carved car still there. I mean this thing is still needs to finish shaking out if cars the starting quarterback on opening day. He's that means that he's really turned it up a notch because Mariota's sitting behind him and he'll play so well then. Mario won't get off bench but if car isn't there then that means the Tom Brady's probably going there. Which means that Mariota will still not getting any snaps because he'll be waiting for Brady to finally retired before he takes over. Yeah it just feels like you. Don't bring in Marcus Mariota to not play him. You know what I mean. It's a nice little insurance policy if you have a really established guy if you brought him in to backup. Drew Brees for instance. Okay great if we need him we got him. We have it but if dirt cars already on the hot seat and you're bringing in a guy that is still kind of a question mark. Maybe he hasn't been great but it's not like he's totally spent either you. Don't bring him in to not use gender car would go to Grooten or whoever's representatives or whatever it tablet man we now I play this game which you okay move me. I'm not about consuming cars. You Remember Marseille predictions which I predict a little early but I said we talked about the Buber Dixon. Prediction turned out to be right with Tom. Brady and I'd seen to be in a row so I'm going with you. I would. I said the car was going to be out. I said a year ago right now. Obviously I was little early but Janice you go. I said it when groom took over now. What Pat Myself on the back? Well actually you. Didn't you need to take a break? You need to take a break from patterns. I I said give him two years and he go get the finger. Let's move onto the next one. Deandre Hopkins is now a member of the Arizona cardinals the Carlos one five games last year the Arizona cardinals will win eight games in this upcoming season. Take shaken shake it. No shake shorter. Five hundred Ashville take they. They showed a five because of the division is a division of Seattle. And the rams but I still just say 'em niners some tripping. They just not like that to me. And then whole Gimmicky air raid okay. I love it that the Andre is going over there. But you know he's GonNa have some success but you still don't like Murray. I don't like the system as a whole yeah. They weren't five games thrown into a forty year old thrown a forty year old with a rookie quarterback who is learning a brand new league with brand new head coach. J. Beat anybody that made any significant at all they gave an. I know what you're GONNA say. The final score they played Ariza. Excuse me San Francisco to the final seconds. Both Times did they beat anybody. They played the niners talk for two games. They tied the lions coming up the game already. Eight gamecocks they were just putting the lines as they were in it or wanted. There is an answer to your question. Maybe they beat the seahawks at the end of the year. Twenty seven to thirteen Seattle is still playing their guts out. Seattle Planet guts out. David could win the division that could have been the number two seed over all. They absolutely work could they have been yes. Yes a hundred percent yet at like two close losses to the niners and a tie. That's eight Dame's right their dog. That's okay stay in the NFC west. Todd Gurley is not on the Rams Opening Day. Take shake take it. Ooh I think is I think. His time is running short as we get closer to the draft. You know maybe nothing happens right now but come draft time. I think that they're looking because now there's going to be a little running backs out there in the world whether as a freeman from Atlanta You know that's the guy that that you looking at. What about Melvin Garner? Is He available? Maybe you take a sniff. That Gordon's interesting. You know it's it. They're going to have some running back little options and take a look at and I think that girlie have a market. I think that they're going to try to trade to get some draft capital for him and they'll be somebody that'll bite all right. Tom Brady is no longer a member of the New England Patriots. Where does he go? And what happens next? That's coming up on the morning show seven ten ESPN.

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AP Editors Show - Latest Chiefs news, Tamba Hali, 5 questions on the 2021 season, schedule release preview (Ep. 48)

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AP Editors Show - Latest Chiefs news, Tamba Hali, 5 questions on the 2021 season, schedule release preview (Ep. 48)

"The and away we go. It's another edition of the arrowhead. Pride editors show. It's been a long time on sweeney. The editor in chief of arrowhead provide dot com joined by my esteemed. Deputy editor john dixon john. The draft is over plur out of hibernation. And how does it feel to be back. I'm not sure i'm out of hibernation. I dunno world year. Living in an i like that. I like hearing that Making sure to be nice and honest on our first editor show back. That's a good thing on this show today. We'll be talking about the kansas city chiefs off. Season will hit some news. We will talk about the five initial chiefs questions. We have entering the twenty twenty one season and then we have the schedule released coming up on wednesday around seven pm arrowhead time so we'll do a schedule release preview as to what we were expecting nothing says the offseason like a schedule release preview. We're previewing the date that they're going to tell us more dates. So that is the offseason in a nutshell all right. Let's get into the latest news of your kansas city chiefs and this is actually the story that got the most traction on arrowhead pride on monday so i figured i'd lead up. It was a surprise. Steady got the most traction. Sometimes i'm still surprised in my third year here. As the editor in chief of arrowhead pride dot com but the chiefs players are reportedly according to josina anderson wooing. Wide receiver dede westbrook to kansas city. John you were the one who wrote this story for us so You make this. Well he'd be jumping from one frying pan into another not from the frying pan into fire but from one frying pan into the other. He's main problem. He's talented receiver. But he's always been in a crowded receiver room and he'd be doing that with chiefs as well And he's not also the kind of player you'd expect the chiefs to be trying to find At least the the front office now. The players may feel differently. Of course. they're the ones who are pushing this at this point but he's not really the physical Type of receiver. That could replace sammy. Watkins in the roster however You know even in a crowded room. He was able to get some production during his years with the jaguars. So maybe the players know something that we don't. yeah. I think with this particular report from josina anderson. You've got to ask where it's coming from. So just intercept. Usually their talks to players directly or she's involved with the agents and if you read the tweet over the weekend some cheese players reached out to free agent wide receiver dede westbrook to engage his interest in coming to kansas city. Meanwhile both the vikings and bengals have had preliminary conversations with westbrook as well. Westbrook was a two thousand six blink cough winner and so that's it and so to me. That's coming from westbrook side. Let's drum up. Interest in as many teams as possible especially rivals in the afc of the chiefs and the bengals and in the nfc of the vikings. Let's see if we can get more teams involved and again i think you look at the connections to westbrook. It's possible as you mentioned in your article. John ties with oklahoma Oklahoma players on the roster. As you mentioned blake bell james winchester the trustee long snapper and creed humphrey in orlando brown junior all members of the chiefs. I don't know how much new players are doing as far as recruitment. so is it just winchester. That's pushing for this. Because he's got some seniority. Manuel teams players tend to stay in touch with their former college teams and follow them and of course any big twelve player Who played you know. During the years that westbrook was playing it. Oklahoma would be familiar with and the man was you know The offensive player of the year right in his best season there and so it's not like other big twelve players weren't aware of him so those were just the obvious connections to the guys who went to oklahoma to westbrook. I think i would say i. Guess you never know. I mean you look is receiving yards and eighteen. Seventeen twenty thousand nine hundred sixty had the acl in two thousand and twenty. I look at what the chiefs were looking for in the offseason as far as a fit and replacing sammy watkins and it was six foot receiver which meats and over two hundred pounds which he is one of these lighter. Receivers kinda reminds you of devante smith that that just was drafted in the nfl draft. And i don't think it's an exact fit. Look at some of his snaps. Sammy watkins as the extra for chiefs lined up almost equally last year in the slot and on the outside where it seems like more of a slot guy just like a gadget player and not nothing. Nothing against gadget players. But i think the chiefs already dealing with that problem mccoll hartman. They just drafted cornell pal again to get more competition in that replacement. Sammy watkins role. So i'm gonna say you'd never know biden. This does not seem. This does not seem likely i. I'll end it right there. We'll see we'll keep you updated. Arrowhead pride dot com other news in the nfl tomba ali with a one day contract. Let's go to the contract signing here. It is Officially retired your old. That andy reid at the contract signing here the cameras going off look like tomba had some of his children at the event and talking about some of the kids that might want to sign the contract instead and then big red telling tom ali. You're retired year old. It is official. John when you heard about the tomba ali one day contract came to mind well just that For a lotta years that the team was not very good he was. He was the main star of the team. Certainly on the defense He was a guy who was consistent year in and year out Through all the years that he played with the chiefs the last four of them. Of course with andy reid would that be right. Yeah Twenty seventeen and those were the only years in there that the chiefs are really that good of a team and he continued to play Top game He was effective and he worked hard. he was. He was a real Start chiefs fans and he deserves all the accolades he can get at this point. I agree with all of that. I'll be honest here. This is being really honest. When i first heard about this i had to double take and look up if he ever played for a different team. These one day contracts in all honesty right are usually save for when players have that final team that they went to jamaal charles and the broncos slash jaguars comes to mind Derrick johnson in oakland raiders. Comes to mind. This didn't seem like a fit. But i guess tom ali had never officially retired. And so you understand why he was given this treatment. I wanna read some of the quote replies or the tweet replies to we put it out there to some fans and rick burke holder of the chiefs actually responded to era priority is the vice president of sports medicine how relentless he was and that was calm. Yeah l. and another person who tweeted at us how he was held on every play again. I think that goes back to some of the relentlessness of tom ali. Here's here's one john. I think that fits your point from eric tolan props to him sticking around while also on some of the worst chief teams in recent history. His career along with greats like dj. Charles were wasted because bad. He said something else. And i'm not going to stand on the podcast. Bad quarterback play thanks to castle and all the crap in between him and trench green and so yeah he was one of those players and really there are a couple of those guys that never got to experience its glory that has come to the chiefs with patrick mahomes. And even before mahomes to that consistent. Playoff play of alex smith. I remember tomba because as a media guy. He was always honest and the press conferences. The chiefs were not winning as much back in the day. When i first started covering the chiefs th they would lose games under alex smith and sometimes lose bad games. You could always go to tom before a fair quote and he would always be honest. I think as a media member you have to love that. I respect his mentorship. You have seen that clip floating around of the game where they play the chargers. And i'm not even sure how the game ended up but about an hour after the game. There's tom ali and joey bosa still in uniform. And tomba is one of the younger players of the league. One of the better young pass rushers and going through some of his hand fighting technique which was especially if of him he learned to. I think some advanced hand fighting by taking karate. He would always be doing karate as an extra workout. A training camp tyreek hill actually mentioned that in a tweet yesterday and then again going back to that media honesty. The ranchi went on the summer because it occurred to him that he didn't like that he didn't get to play enough. That one season. Just everything about to me acquainted passion. Which when you're fan when you're porter that's what's fun. It's fun to report on. Guys that are passionate about the game and that truly want to win because i think there are certainly players in the league who money is the biggest driving factor. I think that's a fact variable everybody. I don't necessarily blame that. But i think it's nice to also have that passion part to it and thomas. Ali certainly exude that to me and he had a great story to you know Born in liberia comes here at the age territory. Liberia really like yeah. It's amazing that he was able to survive that all assurance went. Your father brought him here. Grew up in new jersey Decided to play football because he thought he could be good enough at it that he could make enough money to bring the rest of his family to the united states. I mean you know that's a great story and it says a lot about the kind of country we are and The kind of system. We have here that he could find a way to become a great player in the nfl. And do all those things you know just a top top flight player and guy you just have to love him onto our next story from forbes. The chiefs are the world's forty third and those valuable sports team. Twenty third in the nfl. If we go through it quickly. I'll reveal the nfl that are more valuable than them. The cowboys the patriots the giants the rams forty niners jets bears. Wfp eagles texans broncos. Readers seahawks packers steelers ravens. Vikings dolphins falcons colts chargers panthers and then chief through in a tie among other sports teams and the reason. I rattled all those. Nfl teams office because twenty third. So that's twenty three teams. Nfl in the top forty three including the kansas city chiefs. Just i think another reminder because that's more than half of the top forty three. nfl is king. And you think about the chiefs they have the number one player arguably if we want to be fair here. I know this is the arrowhead pride podcast network and they are. I still think twenty-three is is a little bit low beginning. They patrick mahomes. I think that only stands to grow given the mahomes brand and everything bring to the chiefs but to me man. That's just a another example of the nfl. Being king of america when it comes to to sports teams and the world as well You know having having the team. That isn't all that valuable by nfl. Standards being in the top fifty worldwide is is pretty impressive. You know the the common conception of this kind of a is that Kansas city's a small market which it is and so the team is going to have as much value as some of these coastal cities. And some of that is born out by the list. You've got the dallas cowboys up there. You've got the patriots up there. Those are big urban areas. But i also think that. Both of those franchises had success over very long periods of time and built fan bases on that on that That success and the chiefs have just started doing that. as you mentioned patrick mahomes You know after a decade. With patrick mahomes as the quarterback i think the chiefs will be worth quite a bit more money than they are now despite the fact that they come from a small midwestern market. Yeah i think a lot of people now. You're assuming a little bit here but let's go from the first couple of years here. A lot of people became both fans when they were kids because of michael jordan and what he was able to do in chicago or not i think. Same thing with joe montana and more so the forty niners than the tail end when he was with the kansas city chiefs. And so. I think you might have that effect as we go along here. And they'll make the chiefs even more valuable. I i think they're well aware that patrick mahomes offers that global fan base potential and every year and every year that mahomes plays at this spectacular high level. I think you're gonna see more. And more of that. And they should rise on that list. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the top twenty teams in the nfl this time next year even the year after right. I think that's right nowhere to go but up. A couple of minor transactions came through on monday and the chiefs. dj spillover and it is a quarterback jordan to abu who they wave. I think it's been about three or four times. He's been up and down from the practice squad on the team off the roster now and i tend to think this is maybe the last time because andy. Reid likes to keep four quarterbacks on the roster and rookie minicamp is this weekend begins on friday. Mahomes any you have anthony gordon and shane. Bu shelly now and so undrafted. Free agent reportedly of again not official. But those are probably the four quarterbacks that are going into what will be the beginning of the offseason program if the offseason program does begin so many questions so many ifs right now of the nfl. It seems like the chiefs will go on with their off-season unlike other teams because of the fact of the bonuses that some of these players will get seems like everybody in here is doing their rookie program. And we'll see about the rest of it. Ta's or trying to do a rookie program. It's a little confusing right now as to who's doing what. But as far as we know. The chiefs are beginning their rookie program. On on friday to amou- wouldn't have been a part of that anyway. Now is a veteran. Sometimes they do bring back veterans who are on the fringe but either way not not a member of the roster won't be won't be involved. It's tough because i thought to amou- had a chance to be. What would be like a backup quarterback of the future to me was always more of a match style and play than a chad. Henny would be than a matt moore for example would be to getting closer to patrick bombs but the chiefs are are staying with their veteran jet. Any had a huge effort last year and managing to make sure the cheese wrapped up that divisional round game against the cleveland browns. And they're they're trying to see if they can get something else that sticks here. I think it needs to other younger players well. They've reportedly spent quite a bit of money by undrafted. Free agent standards To get this Younger shelly player. guarantee but a lot of money gave him signing bonus in order to wrestle him away from other teams that wanted to have him and You know they kind of did that was dommage. Begin with but they're just gonna keep turning things until they find a guy that can can stick with them and be a guy that could develop into a backup from homes So i i agree. I think this might be it for tom in kansas city. But you just never know about these things any undrafted. Free agent is Is a lottery ticket anyway so i. It's probably a little premature to say tom. Who is done. He's at least played in a professional league And started in a professional league before which is more than you can say for this kid. I did just call him. Cj spillover so. We know how that story goes. You never know who's gonna turn up once. Training camp begin. Think saint jail again another if that is going along with the offseason releases lesser known. Names i think sean coke in the tight end. He was really more famous for the fact that he was going to get paid in bitcoin than anything he's ever done on the field and won't be receiving his bitcoin from the chiefs. That to me was obvious. You have nick kaiser Blake bells in the mix. Evan bayless And you just drafted noah gray and so. I look as as much as you might like the kid. He was not going to make the team. And then brian whitman started a couple years ago for the chiefs when they were really. You talk about being offensive line when brian was starting. That's when the line was especially thin again. Not a threat at all to make this now. Revamped offensive line room of the kansas city chiefs. So they let him go on his merry way. Maybe can serve as practice squad depth for Another team well. Both of these releases i think. Say something about what. The chief strategy was going into this off season which was to get enough players. That could actually play if they couldn't find your places for them And kalkin and whitman are certainly in that category. I was actually kinda surprised. They signed woodsmen to a reserve futures. Contract he just looked at me like a guy that wanted to have on the practice squad that they could elevate an emergency at the end of last season. And then give him reserve futures contract for blair. Who's you know. Been out of the league for a couple of years And it's like well that's kinda surprising but now that they have drafted some players and Acquired players from various places Neither call connor. Woodsmen are needed anymore. So let's just let them go and So i think that says a lot about what their off season plan was was to get people in here but be ready to let them go. If you get the people you're looking for the chiefs. Seem like they want to keep it to age twenty nine and below so to speak. Wittman is thirty not to say that offensive. Lineman can't have success. it's one of those positions. That still seems you're able to have success after the age of thirty. But i think what this new room that chiefs develop as far as offensive. Linemen i mean. You're looking at ten. Eleven twelve lineman deep and it was never gonna work after whitman even be. I think one of those fringe practice squad type of guys. I know that. I'm sure that she should be trying to keep some of these players on their practice squad just in case they do have that string of injuries as it did last year so they had fifteen offensive linemen right now. It's crazy too. Big of a room to have Whitman aboard so again jordan. To abu is waived sean kokin and brian whitman early. Stecher chiefs news. When we come back we'll talk about the five initial chiefs questions entering twenty twenty one. You're listening to the arrowhead pride editor. Show back here on the arrowhead. Pride editor show john the biggest news. That we didn't get to is the return of benefactor. Ben affleck and jennifer lopez. Seventeen years after breaking up are now apparently rekindling. What is old is new again. Any reaction to that before we get into the chiefs. initial questions No no no no reaction. I can't believe it. I i'll tell you that i pay no attention to what senator is back. I eat thought it was over. You never know what can be rekindled even even two decades later so keep that in mind if joe is looking for a return to the candy are let's get into these five initial questions. John it looks like i broke news to john a second ago. A will the chiefs. This was your question john. We'll the chiefs significantly us. Chris jones on the outside. You pose this question. So i'll let you go first here. Yeah i think there's been a lot of discussion about the possibility Because the chiefs didn't Drafted defensive end early In the twenty twenty one draft that. They're gonna use chris jones on the outside now. They have used. Chris johns on the outside occasionally all along because steve spagnolo likes to trip people up and put people in different places and try and Make the offensive. Line's not understand what's about to happen so it's not like this was something that is unknown in the chiefs offense. I think a lot of people are thinking that they're going to use jones on the outside quite a bit. And i'm not so sure that's true to me. The signing of jarran reed as an interior defender indicates that the chiefs are doing the same thing on the defensive line that they did on the offensive line. Which is build from the center out right. i think they would have loved to get If the board had fallen that way they would have loved to have gotten a defensive end. That could play opposite. Frank clarity on the defensive line but it didn't play out that way and so they're just gonna be happy. Got two guys you can provide interior pressure and pass rush with jones and read and they'll move them around once in a while because that's what they do but i just don't really see chris jones being a guy that's often being used as a defensive end in spag knowle's defense. I just don't see it yet. This is interesting to me. And i think he made some good points about building from the inside out. I think jarran reed is a above average player. That isn't under talked about move. I think for the chiefs this year. And then derek nadi who is richard. There are some guys on the outside with upside. That could play opposite. Frank clark and canedo the rookie but then you also have taco charlton. Mike danna tim ward is another possibility really liked the way charleston look before he was injured last year. And i'm not sure about johnson outside the chiefs already leaned into it a little bit and said this will allow him to the outside more chris jones at times. It sounds like he just wants to be a defensive end and so he will welcome any career where he can get kicked out. But where i think this helps the chiefs pass. Rush is in the sense that i think they're going to be very much better against the run on early downs Next year. Especially when you think about jones and read and noddy and colin saunders. Even now hasn't looked probably as they thought he would for being a third round pick but he should be in that mix too and i. I'm just thinking okay. If the chiefs can get better against the run they might feel like all right. We'll be in third and mediums third and longs. because now we're not getting gashed on first and second down phillip lindsay. I don't know why he comes to mind but he he's a player. We're while oh my god. I already four yards five yards. Where they they'll be better on first and second and then you're getting these certain longs which i mean there's gonna help the pass rush no matter who's out there so it was funny. I remember talking to frank clark. Last year a certain point and i think i was asking me about pass rush strategy and he just kinda in a sense. Cut me off. This was on zoom which was hard enough to interview but it cut me off and he said well we're focusing on stopping the run and these moves feel like that. Let's stop the run pass. Could be better across the board. Because you're getting the pass rush. Downs teams get after throw on third and nine hundred eleven and twelve. Whatever it is. And so i think that's the case and yeah if you're going to have a third downs where it's longer put you on the outside. Let him go. I mean he he wants sacks anyway right he loves. Yeah so right sack nation. That's right well. I think that. I think that we've gotten because andy mentioned you know it came up in a press conference and he said something about it and people have run with that. Oh well chris. Jones is moving outside now. He's gonna occasionally move outside just like he always does right. But i think what the chiefs are going to do is try and get more pressure on the interior as you say Be better against the run. Which will open more opportunities for both frank clark. And whoever is playing defensive end whether it's jones on occasion or if it's a guy Like tim ward. Or taco charlton. They're all going to have better opportunities when they're playing more at third and long versus third and four all right moving to the offensive side of the football. Our next question travis. Kelsey and tyreek hill clyde edwards. Helaire i think maybe consensus is that. They're going to have the most production on the team. When it comes to yards from scrimmage who has next most production on the chiefs and this to me the golden question of the offense so calcined hill. You expect the one thousand yards. Same for clyde edwards. Helaire had eleven hundred yards from scrimmage. His first year you combine receiving in rushing for him. He should have over a thousand. Who's next because sammy. Watkins is no longer on. the team. Is a daryl williams. Is it mckinnon. Who has just added in the running back room. Is it one of these receivers and miko hardman. Demarcus robinson byron pringle john alternative you in cornell pal. You want to go take a wild card. How cornell pal could be the next in line who do you think the next most production Off the top of my head. I'd have to go with byron brindell. I i agree yeah. He's the guy on the team who best fits what they need to replace. Sammy watkins i think so too. And i think cornell powell might be your twenty twenty to answer button. They're going to give byron pringle an opportunity. I've been asked about pringle a number of times on on the radio and and even on some of the forty one hits which are really small. County believe and byron pringle. Well every time the chiefs have asked him to step up when he gets targets he catches the football. I don't think you could say the same about demarcus robinson especially early on in the super bowl when i think if moco hartman had been on the same page with patrick mahomes is different but i think the beginning of the game has different feel just seem like from wire-to-wire the bucks were dominant. And i can't believe that the chiefs would like watching that again and michael hartmann have miscommunication. Patrick mahomes if it's between hardman in homes. I'm sorry mccoll. But i think you're probably the one that's a little off q. Here and so. I think byron pringle now He's been with the chiefs. A couple of years to the occasion had that touchdown last year in denver on the kick return. I think the chiefs like as a kick returner. I think this is a now or never type. A year for byron pringle. I think the marcus robinson is ripe for his job to be taken away. I think he fits. The mold of what would be a sammy. Watkins site player brett beach. It's been talking about him a lot in the offseason going out on a limb little bit and but but i agree with you and maybe it's not too much of a limb because that's the name that i was going to say. And so i think byron pringles your answer. Their time will tell as you'll see we'll see how ready cordell pals sometimes rookie show to camp. And even other taken in the fifth round. They stand out another dark horse candidate there. That probably won't get talked about Too much is no gray and here. It has this affinity for two tight end sets and if none of these receivers standout who knows. Maybe you get that old. New england style type of offensive plays in there with two tight ends Okay so let's go back to the the defense. And i think something on the mind of all chiefs fans and the cheese one and took a linebacker i and draft. So it's the linebacker position. Can willie gay junior push for real time in two thousand twenty one. Why answer here is that. He has to damian. Wilson is with the team. I know that willie gays coming off meniscus injury which was super bowl week but he is expected to be ready by training camp. And you have an opening next. Anthony hitchens especially in these sub packages and willie gay initially thought that he would be this coverage style linebacker and it seemed like last year. He was learning the sam position. It seems like and we talked about this with sean barbara on the special podcast that we did their different style. Linebacker position steve. Spagnolo has that joker style linebacker position. Where different guys can fill into two different roles. I think it has to be hitchens. And and willie gay. I know that fans are hoping for that because they have seen enough again. Consensus offense have seen enough of ben neiman and so they really want this hitchings gay To be your your linebackers packages. And so i think it has to be and what you're doing with bolton is you're preparing him to be the next hitchens twenty twenty to move on from hitchens. I believe it's like eight million that you save and your two linebackers that you guys are are would be gay in in bolton and so i really think it's a developmental year for for bolton just like we saw with gay last year and those linebackers of the future and this year it has to be hitching. Some gay i. I completely agree. They don't have a lot of choices here. You know Did everybody wants to talk about you. Know the corner need cornerbacks and they need this. And they need an edge rusher to be opposite frank clark but the linebacker. The linebacking corps has been the main weak spot of the team for several years. Now and one of your starters leaves you know. They allow him to walk. You got to replace that guy you know. You don't really have a lot of options there. They didn't have A bunch of quality players in the pipeline linebacker to step up We saw what happened last year. When hitchens was heard we we had a couple of guys that hadn't really played since training In their plan for a man they did a good job. I'm you know. I'm not going to say they were terrible. But they aren't the guy. Is the chiefs one playing back there and so to me. It was not a bit of a surprise that they took michael bolton god who profiles very much like kitchens but is more athletic than hitchens. And i think that a lot of these fans is would say if you gave me more athletic more athletic kitchens a guy who's a smartest hitchens to be that mike line linebacker. I'd be okay with that. So i'm kinda surprised. That cheese fans are Were astounded that. The chiefs took bolton. It made perfect sense to me. It was it wound up to me. And i would agree with you. There and hindsight is twenty twenty and you almost felt a little bit silly. After the fact that the top position that they took in the draft was linebacker. But it feels like then linebacker or i'm sorry his position on the team where it's like all right. You can tell that they need to do something here. And so Look at it hitchens and gay. You have been neiman. We have both in the rookie. There's darius harris during no daniels still in this team you talk about now or never guys right emmanuel smith amari cobb karez now in that. Mix if you consider him a linebacker but we're looking at him as more as a an an an an outside guy then riley coal so it is a wide open room. It is a a deeper room. And i think there's a lot opportunity there for one of these dark horse undrafted free agents guys who've been on the team and really not sit down on defense daniel To take a step forward and get a role here because the chiefs need that help right. See what i agree with you. I think they really have no choice but to put gay on the field this year along and trial by fire in a sense right. And you know spagnolo. Doesn't like to put rookies and starting roles and the fact that that gay got as much time as he did was kinda surprising last year but it was a reflection of. You know what they needed to do How thin they were at linebacker. So if willie gay isn't isn't starting this year. Then something's wrong. That's how i feel i agree. I think you drafted that player last year because in needed him to perform this year. It seemed like learning curve. Was a little steep forum. But now you've had a whole year you've had we're going to have an off season where he should hopefully rehabbed and healthy and right. You see what happens all right. Let's get to our next question. Will the chiefs advocaat breeland or another veteran. Cornerback john poses questions. You start here. What do you think. Well first of all i feel bad for breeland. What is this like four years in a row trying to get a big contract someplace right. It just hasn't worked out for him. And and you know he keeps coming back to the chiefs so a the chiefs ought to be able to get him at a fairly inexpensive deal. He's shown he can play in this defense. I think that in another year they might have already resigned him. But i think the wildcard is deondraye. Baker i think that they think they can get a lot of production out of the andre baker You know how we how is about these. Former first round players that he's able to get At a minimum cost later on. I think they see him as the guy so breeland yet may still be on the street and they pick picking up but for now i think they want to keep him off the team. I get little nuggets here. And there and my thinking and from talking to people with the chiefs 'cause they might have played baker in the playoffs if not been for that injury in the trial week. Seventeen game. I mean you talk to sam. Madison and i had asked madison late in the season about baker and baker. To madison's quote was performing well against some of the chiefs top receivers chiefs. Top receivers are tyreek hill and watkins and kelsey and i just if you're performing well against them. I feel like you can perform well against any of these playoffs and receivers. They offer so. I think he was going to be right there. I think they really like baker on the outside. I know that they wanna put the jerry sneed on the outside. They want snead island to be a real thing. So i think the the big thing that might be being missed here is the chiefs are more on the hunt for a slot. Cornerback then maybe outside cornerback and rashad fenton if they do kicks need outside we're probably profile inside but remember when sneaking back last year after that shoulder injury sneed was on the inside and i don't know how high they are infected in that position. And you look at some of the names that are still out there. Richard sherman steven nelson sorry steven nelson. Burn that bridge. Dr queens denard nickell robey coleman again breeland you have. Dj hayden's out there. Hayden and brian poole profile to be those slot guys. So i think hayden pool are more potential guys that could could be added. Because that's the grand disconnect right now people are suggesting brillant or maybe one of these other outside cornerback. Guys i think the chiefs really after slot guy because they want to put it on the outside. So that's the question. You missed mentioning a name. you know. Chart areas ward. Well ward. i is another. I think guy they see as an outside guy and so yes. That just goes into what i'm saying. Is i think they feel like they have the outside quarterbacks with debt. I think maybe you're starters outside is baker and sneed. I know that seems crazy to say with ward maybe providing little deaf. Maybe word is a guy that could push inside. I know fence in has done that in the past. And then you have your three safety sets that the chief seemed to like sorenson is back in the mix. I don't know about outside help but again that that's what i would emphasize they're looking for a slot. Cornerback not so much an outside. Cornerback like brillant provides. It's still all in some way or another inge's on what baker can do and how they're also to a if you can get real and there's an agreement for you know a couple million dollars and brilliant can't find a team elsewhere whom you you never know eight but it does seem like it's forever one year deals and no doubt. He has to be an frustrated. He's not afraid to tweet out some frustrations as well. And you've seen a little bit of that all right. We've been counting down from. I think some of the outside questions to bigger and bigger questions we have about. This team is number one and it's a fun question as opposed to a terrible question for fans right after the super bowl because now you have so much talent who starts along the offensive line. I'll go first john. And then you could critique me all right all right here we go left. Jackal if it's not orlando brown. He's going to go on a reckless tear and tear apart the organization. How come to our house. So i'm not gonna project another left tackle there you know that. He wants to play left tackle. He made that very abundantly clear. Giovanni is your left guard. I think treat humphrey has rookie. Wins job at center. I like got right right guard. Tough right guard is tough. I think it's between. Grady bong and do rene tardiff. It's hard to know without knowing what. Ldp in long look like and so. I'm gonna stay with alec because trusted him enough. Should be that guy the last year i think yes. He's a little bit of a dark horse sky and i think to start the year. It's mike remers with that lingering. Yang yang is gonna be lingering remers has a bad game at right tackle. Get pat gets hit a little too hard and week four week five could be kneeing so to start again. I'll go through it one more time. Brown tuni humphry. I don't feel great about it. But i'm putting alligator and then remers to start the season. Where do where do i get around. Where i around well. That's pretty good. I i agree with you From the left in the center. I think those those are the obvious choices. At those positions. I think i think humphry will will displace supply our previous guy that we thought would be the starter. He will become depth. He will be depth at at all the interior line positions. He's played well at both guard. Tackle or guard garden center so he he will be one of the backups there. I think he'll make the team have a roster spot. I agree that right guard is the place where people struggle the most. I think a lot of people. Think that Kyle long is going to come in and be the starter. And i don't i really don't i mean he was an all pro player on the interior. But that's starting to be a lot of years ago and he's got a lot of injuries since then You know after year that he retired. Yeah he could've decided six weeks after retiring. Yeah i wanna come back you know. I want to work out and get shredded in ready to go. Okay great yeah. But that's not the same as opting out of the season expecting to come back next year. Which is what. Dr larry did and i have said all along. I've said it in print twice. Now that i like dr larry's chances of coming back being ready to play better than i like kyle. Longs well say that. It couldn't happen in the winter last year. He was posting pictures from montreal. Working out outside in the snow on his. Yeah yeah on the roof of an apartment building lifting weights. So an and this is what i mean when i say. The chiefs went from having a bad problem to a good problem right. You look at the team in got. The rashtra pulled up right now. Martinez rankings in the mix durant daryl williams who we like as far as personnel goes andrew. Wylie and i know. I don't think he's a favorite to start anymore. But that's a good reserve guy who's played multiple interior positions for you and can be there ready to go in a pinch. If need be you also have prince tango when nogo who is another dark horse player and then trey smith trey smith. You don't know anything really. About how ready is he going to be. If he's healthy. If you got the blood clots stuff worked out. You got them in the six around the chiefs of feel really good about them does feel more like a twenty twenty two guard position guy but man think about all those names. Go bad problem to a problem. And i've said this before to the chiefs went from having no answers at offensive line to really their backup offense appliance. So if you take five of the starters and let's put five different guys is still gonna be a pretty good offensive line. Kudos read featured personnel staff. Because i think he can win games with the backup five especially considering patrick. Mahomes patrick mahomes is and so incredible to to say that after what was the super bowl where it was just the clear problem and why they were blown out in front of in national international audiences. Well to me. Trey smith is the is the wildcard. Because if he really is Over this blood clot issue and the chiefs seem to believe that he is. They feel confident that he's got his medical issues under control. They've had extensive conversations with their doctor. Their team doctor and with His representatives and medical people and they are convinced that this is a guy that they don't have to worry about his medical issues. I thought it was interesting. They've each said that the chiefs are conservative about this that they aren't willing to put a player who's going to Have a physical threat on the field. So if they're willing to take trey smith even the sixth round They have to feel that he can go out there and play and i think this is the wildcard at right guard and the question is to me whether the chiefs would be willing to put two rookies out there at center and right guard That is the thing that that i feel that he could end up taking both. Dr larry and kyle longs Position away from them That to me is the thing that that is most interesting. I agree with you. I think remers restart the season but i also think remers will miss a couple of games with lingering back injury or something and we'll see neang out there in next year that's will be. I also think for future seasons this is going to be important for the chiefs to have a couple of preseason games and to showcase these guys you're not gonna wanna cut. Some of these guys are to want to try to trade them for either an asset like you saw the chiefs do when they traded hide for rankin. But now it'd be opposite or draft. Pick of some sort where you mentioned as a potential starter at right guard. That's a guy they could trade to somebody. Yeah you know. He started last year. You know he's got some value to a team that is that is not as well endowed with offensive linemen as the chiefs are forex. The might make that same argument with wild. You might say well. He's not worth much. Yeah but he's worth something they could. They could trade him for somebody. Maybe somebody who could be a in the rotation on the defensive end or something. I feel a little bit bad for wiley as i'm looking at this offensive line room. Because he he's done a bang-up job for the chiefs of the past few years. He's got a great personality. I think is twitter handle says my maddin rating does not define me and he. He's filled in. And i just can't see angles him having a starting role. I think he can have a reserve role. But i think his days at least start unless there's an injury of some sort of are over But yeah that's your offensive line and and it's a a good problem. Chiefs are just loading with competition. You have competition in the offensive line room. The tight end room running back room and the wide receiver room. And it'll be a really tough 53-man projection for me to make and then a fifty. Three men cut for the chiefs to make when they have to do that at the end of training camp. That is your five questions as we think about the beginning of the twenty twenty one season when we come back. We will preview these schedule release. It's coming up on the arrowhead. Pride editor show back. You're on the arrowhead. Pride editor show wrapping up with a schedule release preview. the schedule released. John is wednesday. It's tomorrow this has been really an interesting. I think offseason calendar thing because it's never defined and sometimes it just sneaks up on you all of a sudden the. Nfl two days earlier is like oh guess what. You're not going to believe this schedule is done. We're going to release it at this time and then we're scrambling but for the first time i think in a long time we've had two weeks. I think there were previewing. This during the nfl draft where they said it was going to be on may twelfth will have you covered at arrowhead. Fry dot com. When it's released. Will i believe be doing an emergency. Podcast on the podcast channel. Here as we talk about the different dates some hot dates for the chiefs here are their home opponents. The afc west broncos chargers and raiders the buffalo bills to cleveland browns. The dallas cowboys new york. Giants the pittsburgh steelers and the green bay packers. The packers were seventeen game and let me be clear. Not the seventeenth game of the season. We've had a lot of right in so we don't know at the seventeen game this season. That's the part of the schedule early. So you put up the mahomes rogers match which we don't even know anymore right right right but you put up the mahomes rogers matchup and i always see. Yeah really good. Love any verses lop no. It's out the seventeenth game. Because he's come on the away. Teams are the broncos chargers raiders. Afc west the cincinnati bengals the philadelphia. Eagles the baltimore ravens. The tennessee titans and the washington football team. So it's a nice little schedule. I think there's some good match ups their. It's a tough schedule. I think they're going to be tough match ups in there. Let's try to name the prime time games. I'm gonna assume the chiefs get seven of these are now eligible to be in seven primetime games because of the extra games so i believe that she will indeed have seven john altern to you. I is your teams that jump outlet at seven might be too much. Let's name the top three teams that you think will be primetime teams for the chiefs. Who do you think they'll play prime. Well got to be the bills and the browns. I think so good you. Yeah those are. Those are our playoff rematches. I think there are. I think i saw there. Were eight playoff rematches in the In the whole schedule and the chiefs have two of them yeah. I think that there's no question that those two are going to be. Among the prime time games that the chiefs will have I think the packers. Although wow peter king jr sports noted in his weekly column which is fantastic. Always says nuggets about every team. But he's interested in seeing how the schedule plays out for the packers because where it would have been before likely to seven primetime matchups. The chiefs are to have. I don't know about that for the packers anymore. Considering a really just does not seem like aaron rodgers returning to the club. Yeah it's hard to say on the road games. May the ravens. The ravens will be a good matchup raven. Seem obvious to me. And i i think. The eagles are always intriguing with the andy reid connection. I know it's been a while now but that's still to me. Feels like the andy. Reid bowl i think in division of two matchups here that are eligible at the chargers chargers incoming team who really got better. This offseason yeah the weapons and protecting justin. Herbert and i think herbert mahomes is going to be appointment. Nfl television i. I know everybody in kansas city. Watches that game everybody. He watches every game. We've seen the ratings. I'm talking about after this year. Herbert mahomes are gonna put onto gyms and now people will be waiting for that game each and every year those two games i should say each and every year and so i wonder if if the nfl gets ahead of it and puts one of them as the prime time game all the tools and when you look at the quarterback match. That's clearly the best one. So i think that's the most likely individual in primetime matchup. I think the chiefs in cowboys is really interesting. Dak prescott brought patrick mahomes chiefs bengals patrick moms versus joe burrow. So as we need you can kind of see the primetime games. I also think the chiefs are in this place. In the progression of their franchise because of mahomes and the team that they're building that they're also going to get a lot of these special on official primetime games where you had that three twenty-five start but the other game is is not so special and so everybody's watching the chiefs game in that late slot for cbs fox. Two game and so. I don't think there's going to be a lot of new starts for john as much as we love them as much as we love. Those special new starts where we can get done at by like six or seven pm and enjoy the evening. I think it's gonna be a lot of late night working for me and you. My friend get rested. Now go back. No wonder you're in hibernation. Get back of all. That's one thing that sucks about the chiefs is that there's so many late night games but you know it's what it is. I'd i'd much rather this. I'd rather have this than the alternative. I remember when i first started covering the beat. I've been doing it since since fourteen. I mean we had. I think eleven twelve noon games. It was just noon game afternoon game. What what a change. Over the past. Couple of years for the franchise and what they've become at that going to three straight. Afc title games winning to them winning super bowl. We'll certainly change that. Which matchup are you most anticipating this year. I think that I think both the bills. The browns games will be very interesting. I really do. And i and and if rodgers is playing for the packers. I think that'll be very interesting. but you know you make a really good point about the chargers That's a young quarterback that's going to be very good. I think for a long time. And i think we could see the beginning of a long term rivalry kinda like The the manning brady we wrote was for so long between the patriots and the colts. I'm looking forward to the two chargers games. I thought the bengals run the cup last year before joe burrow got hurt. I would love to see a borough mahomes matchup. That's a dark horse match for me. Selfishly john the whole family coming for whenever the giants come into town and so usually whenever that. Yeah they're they're anticipating that matchup we're we're going to have them in chiefs gear. Everyone relax and so that'll be. That'll be a fun. Match up from a friend of mine has a lot of family in new york and they do the same thing when the giants and the chiefs are playing. They either go out there. The new moms looking forward to come into kansas city. But as far as the football coach gave me chiefs and bengals. I know that's an odd choice. But i really like the borough you got a good point there. Yeah i mean that that could be another matchup that becomes a thing for quite a while all right well. We went through the news. We went through our questions. We went through the schedule release. Tat makes for a great arrowhead. Pride editor show. We will be having a reactionary podcasts to the schedule released we. We don't know who's going to be on and it's going to be a cast of characters that is available when the schedules comes out tomorrow and we're done working on the website so nice recap for you know. Editor show thursday because the rapid reaction to the schedule will stand in place of that but we are going to believe be having to editors shows a week starting next week as we continue to build this new podcast network for you guys. The mailbag show the out of structure. Show with ron cobb. Stagner will be coming at you on wednesday morning so you'll have the wednesday morning mailbag get your questions in an era had pride twitter. They'll take care of that and then late night thursday. You'll have your schedule release reaction show that makes for your podcast will lead into our friends as all broadcasters say across the pond on saturday with the great british chief chef so plenty of good content coming at you here on the arrowhead pride podcast network for john dixon on pete sweeney. Thank you for listening to the arrowhead pride editorship.

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You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about. The Kevin Sheehan show now here's Kevin. Jp Finley from NBC sports. Washington will be our yesterday. And we will discuss Adrian Peterson, Atlanta and. we'll get GP's guesses on the final fifty, three man roster which we. Will Get tomorrow. At four PM we may have a bunch of news leak out through the day. On players that have made the team or haven't made the team in certainly, that process will start tomorrow morning as it always does one week from today, it will be a full-fledged football Friday on the podcast and there will be a surprise next Friday I promise you that as we lead into football season here on the podcast several other things to get to which we will hear momentarily. But if you missed the news and J people will join us here shortly The Washington football team released Adrian Peterson who. Is a bit of a shocker Tom, Pella sorrow and Mike Garafolo from the NFL network were the first to have it at about seven fifty three. This morning I was on the air doing radio and Yeah. I'm surprised I'm definitely surprised I would not have been surprised as many of you know prior to his arrest and I'm talking about Darius Geiss if Geiss had been traded or release I had this sense back in the spring that there were a lot of issues, the people in the organization had. With Geiss worries concerns about his maturity and with Rivera really trying to establish a new culture. I always thought there was a chance you know long before Guy Scott arrested that there was a chance that geiss would not be on the opening day roster but once they picked up AP's contract option. I thought you know look productive he's been the last two years. What else do they have that's unknown at this point other than Geist and I just thought that they picked up the option because they realized he. Was a good culture guy and that it would work out here with a p. with Ron Rivera being the new head coach. So I am surprised I think most on the beat are surprised and we'll get to JP here in a moment but the net takeaway for me on all of this is they really like Antonio Gibson, they also have a different style of offense that they're going to play. That may not be a perfect fit for Adrian Peterson Josefina. Anderson was the first person to speak to Adrian. Peterson this morning and I'll read the text chain that she put out there hall of fame running back. Adrian Peterson to me on. Washington Release Josina Anderson tweeted out it caught me by surprise. He said I was having strong camp. I was showing up on film taking number one reps all the way back to this week I just got notified by the running backs coach yesterday they wanted to give these young guys some reps, but I didn't know I was going to get cut. There is no indication today Ron Rivera just. Said This is always tough but yes, we're going to release you in go with this offensive style I, respect coach and look he said, Antonio, Gibson is a Helluva talent. This system really fits him. I. Feel like I can do that pony style to more as a receiving back. We were all working on it, but they really want one main guided do it and they drafted Gibson for it. Trust me I still have a lot more in me more to strive for and more to do again even if there's Some doubt I feel strong and I can on that as the season wears on I'll do it again Josina Anderson added after her conversation. She said after talking with Adrian Peterson this morning in her opinion they she thinks he's going to go to a contender that that would be the best scenario where they're still depth issues at the position and he can go in still produce win and be happy though he'll contribute where he's wanted and she said she can think of a team in the AFC. That fits I was going through a list of teams as well. certainly team like Indianapolis, behind Marlin MAC is a possibility with a team that will content All right. Let's bring J. P. Finley, J. P. of course, with NBC Sports Washington Does The Washington football podcast and you can follow him on twitter as most of you do at j.p Finley N. B. C.. So I just started the show obviously talking about Adrian Peterson. There are other things to talk to talk about and we'll get to those. But I was surprised when I was on here, this morning and the news came down from NFL network. Were you. Yeah definitely, I This thing that a lot on reporters do where they try to act not surprised this is a big surprise and and I think. I was expecting a reduced role fray ap I was expecting things to change. It became very over the last couple of weeks that this. To running back backfield with. Games sitting JD mckissick looked like that was going to be there their bay set and watching Scott's on offense to the last few weeks. This is GonNa to look very different. It's not I. Don't think there's GonNa be a lot of. Kinda. Similarities to what we've seen the last few years I think he's GonNa be a ton of motion and lateral action. But I, still thought there'd be a role for a where he gets a hundred fifty carries for the year and they value is leadership and that he'd be on the team certainly so. Yes, I'm surprised. You know I just looked at your twitter account a little while ago and you had tweeted out. Caught clearly people in the organization by surprise because they're instagram account had an instagram post yesterday with a big picture of Adrian Peterson in uniform. Cradling the football so. It sounded like he got caught by surprise to he mentioned that to Josina Anderson and others this morning, my immediate reaction JP was. Surprised definitely. I was definitely surprised and I mentioned just moments ago back in April and May I suggested that dairy skies could potentially be somewhere else because I was hearing about the maturity and I knew that Ron Rivera. Wanted a new culture I'm talking about long before the arrest, and so that would not have surprised me once they picked up the option on Peterson. Just expected him to be a culture change guy which I know Rivera respects you know from his time in the beginning of training camp in through through now and I think if they didn't have an answer for him, he would be on this team which leads me to the conclusion that they really love. Antonio. Gibson. Yeah. So a lot there I I was with you guys I said as much as much. I would be surprised if he finds the new home on there, there's plenty of kind of bug that Ron and Ron wasn't interested in various before the twenty eighteen drafts and you know obviously what happened is not what anybody expected but dice was on that wasn't going to be a shocker. But one thing of the option on a P.. That was this staff that was ron and tile Rogers. They picked up the options that wasn't something inherited. And I guess Kevin I think then I think ownership likes ages. So that was another reason why I thought he'd certainly be on this team because over the course of the last two years Adrian's been charging his way up the all time all record book and he's doing that as a Washington guess football player now. I. Think. I liked having. If. He has a charisma and Gravitas that no one else on the team has and and I I would guess mark have you talked to fan there a lot of fans of broken about this they loved being able to see and route three and Peterson So yeah, all that surprised. Yes they learn Tony against it, but I think this is more about an offense. That maybe doesn't have a role for Adrian. Peterson. I. Just. I don't I get it I understand. Decision. But at its core, there's GonNa be some certain tunes and they're probably going to bring in Patan Barber and I'm just not sure Peyton Barbara's better than Adrian Peterson. Like over the last two seasons, hundred numbers are significantly not in the mornings. and. Maybe they believe that Gibson will be that guy on third and also I think he can be really do his legs. I compare his legs to like Alex Ovechkin. The way this guy's bill is just is crazy to have the speed yet as the decides he has. But I talked about this yesterday with guys you and I both know and I was saying. because. We knew practice squad means it might make sense to try to get Peyton barber the practice squad that way if you have an injury or anything, you just pull him up and he's ready to go because you don't necessarily need Peterson and Barbara I'm sitting. In this way. just out of curiosity what are the new practice? Squad rules. The bigger practice squad and you can bring them up later in the week believe to bring players up on Game Day and say peyton barber still eligible for for. I don't know specifically lot at the check with far, but they recent the ruse up big time. So you can have better vulgar practice squad than there used to pretty tight restrictions on. He was either years in the League Games. You. But I think because. It had the kind of free a bunch of stuff. So? A couple of things on the things you said first of all I think it's funny because I felt the same way in taking calls this morning that people There were a lot of people that were really crushed by it and that actually was interesting to me. Well, first of all, I mean at this time of year you know we haven't played a game yet it's not even Labor Day at it's. Labor Day weekend but you end up getting you know and I've noticed this over the years really the hard core fans are really paying attention right now. So those are the fans that didn't leave him last year or the year before but most people I would guess if the largess of the potential fan base were pulled on whether or not they're devastated about Adrian, Peterson being released that the answer would be you know a No but of the real small hard core I think the majority would say, yes and I think they would say, yes because it's very obvious. The last two years you could make the case obviously that he was the best player on the team and there was no sign of him slowing down with that said, I don't have a problem with this if he's Not the right fit for the offense the goal is to win, and we both know that they're probably not GonNa win this year, and by the time they're ready to win Adrian Peterson's going to be thirty, six, hundred, thirty, seven years old. So in some ways, I kind of liked the statement that this makes from the coaching staff do do you know where I'm? D Do you have any do you have a similar feeling? Yes or no? For sure and I think. I think it is folks. Because you and I often talked about there's that hard for. Ten. Fifteen percent of this fan base that knows everything that's going on and shows up to every, and then I think those people are done in a lot of is because AP was really good at all those people even sign autographs and take pictures. Hang Out I. mean that that matters to a lot of fan I think. You and I not ignore but grabs don't understand the segment of the fan base where maybe wins and losses aren't the most important where it's about being a part of this you feel like you're really apart on the team and I think ap really gave that feeling to a lot of people and let's be clear. There haven't been a Lotta greatness coming through here in a while there's. I mean. First Ballot Hall of Famer Worn One of these uniforms. Maybe. During, green I don't I mean. Eighteen year was pool in that capacity. I hear what you're saying. This is about winning games and about doing what's best for. Scott offense and. I don't know that people should be excited AP. Class Act. He was here a Lotta the performance put on in that completely improbable. Still trying to cling to a playoff run after Alex Smith got hurt and then cope employees got her and they're rolling out there Josh Johnson Api the last couple of games of that year's. Jacksonville. Tennessee game. The Tennessee game was a strap it to his back game, and he literally almost carried them to a win. It was it was his best performance since he's been here in my view and he's had several of them. And you know run for the running. High water mark of time here. But. I'm not saying anything should be excited about this, but they should recognize that if you ever ever Jay. Serum. I am confident there were moves. He would've wanted to make that. He wasn't allowed to make and go back to last year where week one he had apn active and it caused such an excellent i. Think. He would rather just release them last year round than have to have enacted but I'm guessing he wasn't allowed to. So to me this very clear. The Ron Ron is doing what he wants whereas mating. Jaden get to. But if you want to be excited about something each say about Scott Turner's often I think this is so much handwriting about offensive skiing's and look what big data is look Akal Shanahan does. Now. Is With those guys do but I think it's GonNa look different and it's GonNa look way more modern. Yeah I'm looking forward to that just one last thing on a piece because I do want to get to the offense I had that written down for you to describe what you've seen out there is or as much as you can. You know it's just it's so representative of what? The the way many in the fan base are just looking for one little drop of water in the middle of a desert, and that's what Adrian Peterson was for two years. The team's record was ten in twenty two with them and most of the fan base and I'm talking about a significant majority of the fan base probably didn't even see most of the Games he played in last year specifically. Owen seven and people really checked out. And it was two years here. We talk about a pro he played through separated shoulder last year on an awful team. Thirty four and already going into the whole thing and that leads in that leads me to this one final thought on him I. Really. I really enjoyed watching him and I'm really wishing him the best because we both know and I think most of the fans no, he's had a lot of financial trouble off the field. He needs to play football. I hope he ends up in a place they can give them a solid contract with a solid upside. He is still viable at thirty five years old. We've seen that the last two years he is a total. Aberration, for that position that age, he's a physical freak I. Hope he gets with a team that is is a winner. And he can get paid and he can continue to play was thinking by the way about the potential teams I. Think Tampa would have been a perfect spot for him had had this team you know released him on Wednesday, they may have signed a p instead of Leonard Fournette now doesn't mean that they can't release four net I guarantee there is no guaranteed money but I would think you know a team like Pittsburgh team like Indianapolis is a backup to Marlin. Mac, you know there are there are several spots for a guy. Like ap he's GonNa land somewhere. Don't you think I hope so I I just know that you know before. Washington signs him. Right. Through the morning thinkers. So I certainly also I just I don't know. Sells it sounds like you're skeptical about it. I I'm not I just. Wanted to get a job he's a good part I've gotten to know him and I certainly hope that I mean if he landed I dunno things Connors backup is the steelers but that'd be an ideal situation and didn't give me a break i. Honestly, I asked him is and I think bothered him when I asked him this last year because i. I asked him just off the record I think it would have been different but asked him with the camera. You wish you were on a contender on each year playing these late late years of your career old terrible team and I think he was offended. At the suggestion that he wasn't all in on the team, he was on but I think Tampa Pittsburgh New England maybe. Be Great friend land among those five it's. Running back situation is really unsettled and you and you paid attention to the bills. They have good single terry from last year that's getting more this year supposed to be good. But I mean bills could be a good team and maybe that's a spot. Here's the thing about the bills. Devon Single Terry's a star in the making I mean I really believe. I well I didn't know that they also drafted Zach Moss at a Utah who is a big strong back as well but is you know as a rookie? Pittsburgh has obviously James. Connor remember they drafted Anthony McFarland from Maryland in a lot of people who was it somebody went out of his way ESPN NFL guy. I think it was. It could've been an NFL network Anthony McFarland's the steal of the draft in the fourth round. On twitter, but they also had the the big strong Guy from Kentucky from the year before whose name escapes me. Who actually got some run last year I. Don't know I hope it works out for him I. Really do so tell me. About the offense you know, what are we going to see a week from Sunday? stylistically, you know with with dwayne with McLaren with obviously Gibson and company. What's IT GONNA look like So they're being pretty hard for about us not reporting what we saw during training him and I kind get it because there's no preseason. So a lot of that stuff is, is way learn. PROPRIETARY FOR LACK OF A. Normal but I think generally, you're GONNA see a ton of motion expect a lot of motion pre-snap and almost at the snap on their moving Steve Simms around he looks like a Canadian football player the way he's saying these big wide. Motion in the backfield. I think it'll be a lot of to back sets. I think that's what led to this decision to let Peterson go that. You're gonNA see Gibson and the kick out there Tom. I. Don't know what it means for Bryce long there's not much action with I I seem offense. I think maclaurin is so very obviously you're you're one receiver. I think when they had a three wide receiver set out there it'll be a floor in men opposite end sins on the fly. But I think you're GONNA see a lot of those. To back to white outset. With McLaren's Sims, Gibson, mckissick, and then you've got Logan taught us as them and that's it. I mean, you think about McLaren's is. A traditional number one wideout, right but. The Kissing Sims or all low center of gravity. Really good. Pass catchers super fast super shifty. I. Think they're gonNA. I think early on. They're really going to surprise people and Ron I asked Ron question last. About. Kids in any said something like you know we're not putting our secrets out there yet or something I think. I. Think they're going to be creative I. Think some of it is they know they're not. Super talented wideout or super talented at tight end and I think there's GonNa be some offense line question. So I think there's GonNa be a lot of quick action hitting the ball out of doing asking hand. And if it starts to work especially with all this emotion that is really just to. Confuse. The defense and make them look because it's not always at the. Play those towards the motion. I think if you get defense is confused is when you can hit home runs and Certainly, the Cam Newton, the deep ball was always a huge part of his game and play action the huge part in every norv Turner Scott Turner offense. So I think what can either plan? We'll. See. that I think did that. Means you've got a very active quarterback in this scheme to getting ball getting the ball out getting the ball out quickly to playmakers. Getting the ball. People expect to well, you know what? It may be. One of the reasons he slimmed down the way did You I'm intrigued obviously I mean you'd love to see something similar to you know would philly does Kansas City does Here's one question if if you don't feel comfortable divulging it, that's fine too. But I sorta heard that there's definitely dwayne involved in some dual threat stuff to in some you know in a ton of zone read looks as well. Yeah I mean I think we'll see. How much? They're installing a taller stuff and then you get to a week one and you see what's working I think. Dwayne I I believe we'll be on the move whether it's a pass or if it's actual rpo zone, read any of that stuff more than we've seen. Clinton's he might be a more accurate passer on the move. Honestly, I had a One of these quarterback coaches tell me from watching and stuff that sometimes we in the pocket watches right leg kind of locks up on him, and that causes the ball to sail a little bit and the one thing we know Wayne's Mrs. when he misses high when he's on the move, then leg doesn't lock and his arm is so pure that that you can make most of these throws now you can't be late but but he can tight window a and I. Think. He's GONNA ask. I think. I think the offense will be way more exciting. I think they're gonNA shuttle to run the ball. In traditional ways when they need to. I mean you can dress football's a million ways but ultimately, you do need some power run game to your offense on and maybe eight people wouldn't have helped there and maybe they don't plan on having to do a ton of it. But I think the questions on the offensive line. We'll. See. How complete, the picture will be authencity. before I get to just a couple of quick questions about what you're projecting in terms of the final roster. The other thing I thought about this morning and I don't think that I I believe this like I am. That I think it's it's it's definitive thought it's just it's out there in my mind and that is you know if they're ready to move on from Adrian. Peterson. But I think there's some legitimate reasons why as you've described the scheme the fit that he would have been or may not have been in the new scheme. But I wonder about another position that is sort of loaded with a veteran player. That's a culture guy too but also may be a great fit for the forty three. I don't know but did it occur to you at at all when Peterson got cut that maybe a guy like Ryan Kerrigan could be a surprise cut tomorrow. No. I mean I i. didn't have that thought. So you ask. And I don't see it coming because I. Think. Kerrigan's only thirty maybe thirty one right true But he's also one year and eleven million bucks though they totally can afford it. I don't see it. I mean I'm not GonNa make he's thirty two he's he's he's. Thirty two. Yeah. I I don't expect it. I'M NOT GONNA. Tell you that I'll eat the hat happened or like I'm not gonNA guarantee that it won't happen. But I wouldn't expect that. Okay. Dude. I didn't expect either I thought you were going to say Thomas Davis that's. Pr- The issue with Davis is that he is you know along our. I'm sorry. Run. He's run sky and he's been running with the ones a lot right? In practice much. In the last three or four days well, that's interesting. Because AP in practice the other day. Just yesterday he missed Thursday. Okay. That's another one. I'd be quite surprised I mean. If you want. To me I'm wondering is showing Davis makes. And they signed him to be a starter rather. Dealing with the ones that all he megan six Mil, he's in one year guy and and if you call in and makes it easier to keep this kid cameron curl who was a seventh round pick got Arkansas. WHO's made some good plays He's not running with the one, but he's been impressive running with the twos and threes I don't know. Well that that's the one that sort of makes sense. Ben mentioned that to me this morning on radio as well. I mean because it certainly would appear that he is the other starting safety opposite Collins. So if that's the case given Davis cap number again, they don't really have to be concerned about the CAP right now with with this group but Yeah he hasn't impressed as sort of the veteran in. The group or one of the veterans in the group, and he's not that old either that would wouldn't be a surprise at all couple of of roster final cut questions and let me start at wide receiver. Do you agree that the three receivers Sims Junior McLaren and inman are the three that are really contributing the most or do you think that the excitement over Gandhi golden is continued through camp? It has played played in the week right and honestly when we when we first there was a lot of reaction this year because we hadn't seen anyone and I think we kind of followed rice lower but it was so exciting to see reds Lana field you're like, oh my gosh well, and then a little time was on oh prices still there and he's running with the thirteen and I think we're getting golden he's so big and so fast, and when we first saw him, which normally would have happened in May or June, but it happened at this point we were like allow again old and then you watch him and he just he can't. He wasn't all out there with the one much because he didn't seem to know what was happening. Pretty steep learning. Sticking on offense we'll. Alex Smith make the fifty three man roster or will he be on injured reserve for the season? I think he makes the fifty three and then maybe they move them to the I. R. Like but they're not going to release him with injury designation. I. Think makes it fifty three. How many tight ends make the team and after Logan Thomas who are they? Three. And that thing is Thomas. And sprinkle. But I, I didn't hear somebody talking about Richard Rogers which really surprised me. But Rogers of anybody on their roster tight end Rogers as as the highest. Track Record I mean he's the one that's accomplished the most and. Stay healthy. Maybe they wanNA chase that I know that I see it. When Ron is talked about listen largely been those three guys fall sprinkle sinus. but. Where it was interesting, it caught me off guard. Is it a lock that Jaren Christian is the starting left tackle against the eagles. Are The guys they have today? Yes. Do you think there's a chance? They add somebody before next weekend? Sure, you got. But absolutely, they are looking at left tackle and I think like Christian I do. But it's a good tackle emerge. I think they'd signed them but I think they're very concerned about the depth tackle. defensively, who were the corners that make the team? we know what do we know Fuller Dora Me Morlin Moreland We know four right fuller, Miro Darby Morlin right I think stroman is your fifth. And What about Aaron Colvin Aaron Golden GonNa say. He's been in the League while he just doesn't make flash plays the. From the six corner, maybe you're not asking for that, right? give me somebody that you would not be surprised after the big surprise earlier this morning Gimme somebody that you won't be surprised if they're you know prior to four pm tomorrow that would surprise people. Why I think people have a very. Outdated expectation of Reuben? Foster. I don't think we're GONNA talk just being in the team I think they're going to try to get into I are Reuben foster best skill is explosive athleticism and he doesn't have it right now and the team you know he's in the last year. But when you're Neil, that's an easy out and they have a lot of other young linebackers they seem to like. I think that would be the biggest name. I will probably even if it's just for a brief visit on podcast, get your season prediction next week even if you have to give it to me and I can share it with everybody else all hold back on on that but just just one takeaway from this conversation I don't know why I'm feeling this way I think some of the things that you said offensively about them being a surprise. I've a sense that you think this is going to be a much more competitive team than most people think. True or not. It in but. I don't think they win tun I I really think they're gonNA win week one I really do. Well with Elliot's. That's yeah. Everything and nobody has any idea of Washington is GonNa do and there's a real advantage to that. I don't I I don't see I mean even with expanded playoff team. Let them see them as a playoff team that I'm happy to do that next week. When you want I think they're going to be competitive and I think the offense is GonNa be fun to watch but I think there's going but I liked watching. Kyla Murray last year they didn't win that many games but it's fun to watch I think. I think there'll be growth, but it'll be. You know some setbacks to. Thank you as always and if you're available next week prior to the first week of the season and jump on, you can jump on and chat for a little bit. Make a couple of predictions him to try to get predictions from everybody in town on the podcast next week on. Thanks. For sure. On I like I said visit reminded me of the Bill Callahan. I think he said that to me before Ala I'll talk to you soon. Thanks. J. P. will be among several people will try to catch up with next week to get season predictions on the season. On Washington season, we'll try to do that with as many people in the beat as possible will probably do that for the radio show as well. 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That I've employed for I don't know three decades certainly several years here on radio or on the podcast I think this will be year fourteen of the smell test intended of the first thirteen years I've produced winning seasons. Last year was one of those non winning seasons hopefully took advantage of where I was early in the year last year when I think I worked my way up to twenty six games above five hundred, which was unheard of. Red. Hot, to start the first month and a half of the season last year, and then it all came to a crashing halt. It was one of the worst stretches in football gambling I've ever had but we stick with the theory that if the public lined up on one side, it's just best to go the other way and the reason we say that is they're going to be a handful of games every weekend that mybookie DOT AG or a place in Vegas or your local bookmaker who's taking bets illegally they're going to need one side to come in more than the other and usually if you're on their side. You've got a better shot of winning. That's sort of the strategy I get a lot of information from. Sources offshore. That's not bullshit by the way people have questioned me on that I'm not about to tell you the people that I talk to. Or have relationships with because they are long a longtime relationships with but they've been various warm locales in the Caribbean and other places and I get information from them as well. Whenever a game is heavily bet one way and throw on throw into the equation there some sharp money meaning some really sharp betters that actually Vegas and offshore shops may actually believe know something if they're on the other side of the public, then that's when I really go in head first and I'll take that team that the sharps Iran and that the public is against and I'll throw them out. They're not just in the smell test. But I will. Be On that game myself understand when I win I'm winning with you. You Win I win both and when I, give you a loser you're losing but I'm losing as well and I would bet most cases I'm losing even more I'm not bragging about that. It's actually Probably something I should be ashamed about gambling's not for everybody. As a friends of mine have said when we've been on Vegas trips, you know Vegas innate for everybody and that is true gambling's not for everybody. If you can't stomach this, don't do it just enjoy the games. But if you're somebody dabbles in this stuff. You don't WanNa, be the mark. You don't WanNa be you don't want to be with the rest of John Q. Public on a game that you are absolutely convinced Vegas got. Wrong. Once you start thinking that way that Vegas got it wrong and you'RE GONNA LOSE YOU'RE GONNA lose big to when it looks like Vegas has it wrong? They usually don't. There's one game this weekend that fit sort of the smell test criteria public's on one side some sharp money on the other side. Is Middle Tennessee state tomorrow afternoon at Army so one thirty kick army is currently three and a half point favorite. They opened his a five point favorite. The game dropped to three and a half, which is an indication, not a public money but a sharp money and the public loves army. It is painful Tibet Against Army I've done it before and it's not fun. Army can take possession of the football at their own seven yard line and twenty four plays later and twelve minutes of the clock. Later, they're in the end zone and that's not fun when the team you're betting is on defense being worn down by a triple option twenty-three play drive. But Middle Tennessee state is the smart side tomorrow plus the three and a half at army on a college football Saturday. That includes I don't know five game six games. There is a Monday two games last night. I actually liked South Alabama last night and UAB UAB did not cover. South Alabama did. The Monday night Labor Day Labor date night game is navy and Byu I think that's a national televised game. Tomorrow I'm sorry Monday night I. think that's in Annapolis I believe that's in Annapolis. The games that ESPN's got carried. Like tomorrow night's Eight, o'clock, ESPN GAME IS ARKANSAS ARKANSAS STATE MEMPHIS. Monday nights. Labor Day night game is Byu at Navy at Navy Marine Corps. Memorial Stadium and it's the eight o'clock Espn College football game. Next. Week it is better the the Middle Tennessee. State. Army game if you're curious is on. CBS. Sports. Network tomorrow morning. At West Point one thirty kick week to next week we get. Obviously we get the NFL season, but you get the ACC season debut in, so you'll have a notre dame playing also the big twelve I think starts next weekend as well. I believe that's true. anyway. There you go. For Smell test of the year is Tennessee state plus three a half at army. There you go. Okay I wanted to get to one last thing today before we leave actually two things both related to the Washington football team and Dan Snyder. Tommy and I talked yesterday about this ESPN football Washington football team culture hour long show that's going to air on Sunday night hosted by Jeremy Schaap, will they started to promote that show by showing a few different excerpts from that show yesterday on different sports centers at CETERA. I have to say that based on what I saw there was no new ground covered. There is no new bombshell about Snyder it was essentially the same people that were quoted in The Washington Post story that were you know on video you heard their voices you saw their faces on what I saw yesterday. There may be a lot more on Sunday night, but it didn't really appear as if there was. Any new information. Now, there were a couple of new quotes and read one in particular, and this quote comes from a leash decline who was an intern for the team in two thousand ten then became employees of the team. First of all, she suggested that there were days in there was a player specifically that followed her to her car into our into the parking lot at. Ashbourne badging her badgering her to date. Her or to go out with her it was uncomfortable for her and essentially people in authority in the organization suggested to her that don't worry about it. He'll go onto the next person soon enough but that it that it made her very uncomfortable But specifically, she addressed Snyder and these women address Snyder in particular even though none of them had any additional information from the post story, remember the only. True you know face to face firsthand experience that's been alleged with the owner is tiffany score. Be The cheerleader that was at fight night at the Washington Hilton in two thousand four, and she claims that Snyder propositioned her to go up to the hotel room that he had with his friend to show his friend a good time, his friend, Tony Roberts, who he went to high school with him was also the team's ophthalmologist. anyway at least Klein this former employees in talking about Snyder said quote. I think we should remove him I felt powerless when I was there I felt like you know nobody was going to do it and now I'm sure they're scared. If were scared about coming forward, I'm sure they're scared about what's going to happen to them. Their time is up it's our time now to tell our stories and to show how strong we are. They're the ones who should be ashamed of what happened and they're the ones who should be scared closed quote. The other thing that came added this was a clear. That the waste Snyder answered the last post story where he said I take accountability and then went on to basically describe how it was everybody. Else's fault that there was you know that the post was a hit job by the Washington Post that he's he's been two hands off and the other people running the organization ran to its detriment. Well, no one none of these women really appreciated that response which was pretty predictable. This guy's been an absolute disaster from a public relations standpoint over the years right on the name never never never you can put it in caps after the Supreme Court decision that ruled that that Asian rock band, the slants were protected from trademark. Infringement because of the First Amendment which meant a win for the football team is it related to their nickname the redskins and he puts out a press release you know were thrilled were thrilled that the Supreme Court said we could be disparaging using our name what a moron whether that was his choice or the public relations departments choice it was just so stupid. Seen this over and over again from them from a public relations standpoint I hope it changes. You know they've got some nice young people in the PR department Julia Donaldson's in their Media Area I. Hope they get smarter but obviously, they could not stop the owner from commenting on the last Washington Post story and it really seemed irritate some of these women who by the way. Have you know are being represented by Lisa, banks and Deborah cats at a you know an employee law firm that handles a lot of sexual harassment claims in both of them. You know essentially set demanded that the league at least suspend Snyder in the short term and eventually take the his ownership away. All of these allegations are proved to be true. They've they also apparently. Suggested in this piece and this may have been a little bit new that there could be criminal charges that could be forthcoming against the organization but Anyway Snyder's reaction hit job. I wasn't hands on it was someone else that was running this and allow this culture to be created. The women didn't like that Rachel Angleton he's one hundred percent responsible the former cheerleader tiffany. Score be who was part of that Hilton night at fight night. He's incapable of changing the culture as long as he's part of the organization as long as he's leading it, nothing's going to change one former employee said she was disappointed that Snyder term the articles a hit job in the statement last week saying it was another indication that showed her that things wouldn't change. Look. They're forty up plus employees that have come forward. Okay. This isn't one or two I've I've emphasized that point many times. I would also tell you what I told you when I read that statement that it's it's troubling because. It's the one thing that you know you have to have to have a winning organization. You've gotTa have a good ownership situation and they don't and any indication you look forward to see whether or not. He is truly going to take responsibility over what's happened for the last twenty to twenty one years. There are more indications that he's incapable of doing that, and that's what that statement was. You know that statement was you know briefly saying I take responsibility over the for the culture but then he throws, you know those that were running the organization under the bus and says that the post job the post stories a hit job. You know. It's what Cuban said after that first story, you just have to take responsibility take accountability and promised to do better and that's not really what he does. There's just consistently this feeling you get that it's never ever going to be his fault whether or not he was involved in harassment specifically him I don't know the answer to that may be more will come out that will prove it at this point it's been he said she said, but he is responsible. Without question. For a culture that allowed others at he hired to harass women. That's his responsibility as the owner of the organization at some point. you gotta look in the Mirror I. Don't know if you do that at fifty five when you lack self awareness like he does and has over the years I mean for twenty one years no matter. If it was a losing football team or you know utter embarrassment and Shenanigans off the field, it's never been something. He's been willing to take responsibility for and say you know what? Maybe it's me. until that happens, the wager should be on this team never winning in sustained fashion doesn't mean that I'm not optimistic about Ron Rivera that I'm not optimistic about the defense that I'm not optimistic about Dwayne Haskins I'm optimistic about all of those things football related and I think Ron's going get an opportunity here for a while. To do it his way I hope he's healthy so that you know he he has the opportunity to do it his way but long-term this guy's been. So self destructive and it's been you know obviously it has a lead into the organization that he's run and it's really been a a preventative to this organization doing anything consistently positive on the field. One other quick thing a follow up Tommy and I told you about this. Yesterday this latest story about this California motion discovery that Snyder was pursuing another way too tight back to Dwight, Shar. all the smear campaign that that that came. Snyder's way the week prior to the first post story that he clearly believes was funded and initiated by one of his minority owners. Dwight Shar wills, part of the story we told you about yesterday there. Was a name that came up in that story and the name was Mark Ran Data A. R. A. N. D. A.'s A. However you pronounce that he's a lawyer that Snyder alleges had ties to a company that had ties to the company in India that essentially was the clearinghouse for all of the rumors in the inaccurate rumors the week leading up to that I post story ran dots. Went into a court yesterday and and said that he filed an emergency motion to intervene on these proceedings. He said in this motion that he objects to statements and Snyder's petition and basically says at one of the allegations that he knows this Guy Bass, who wrote a owns this group honey house, which is a pornography house which was tied to the group in India. He says, he barely knows, Ari Bass he's met him only three times and they have no business relationship in. The other thing he claims he's never had any contact with this India Company and then he went on to say a couple of other things that were really and I'm GonNa read them verbatim from this emergency motion to intervene in these proceedings in this California motion that Snyder and his lawyer filed quote. will be this is before a quote sorry ran ran dot says asked the court to strike any statements from Snyder's filing about ran dots from the record suggesting that Snyder could be seeking revenge for an article that ran dot. So once wrote that criticized Snyder for a prior defamation lawsuit, I have no idea which defamation lawsuits referring to there. He apparently wrote an article titled Dan Snyder is but hurt that was the title to it. He said that that's one possibility y Snyder's coming after him, and then the other possibility is this. Quote perhaps Mr. Snider is simply desperate to concoct a story that will lend some credence to his bizarre theory that everyone is out to get him or maybe Mr Snider just wants his name out of the press for the forty plus accusations of sexual misconduct against him. closed quote. Then there's more This is from rand dot says sworn declaration is part of this emergency motion To intervene quote, I never heard of the MEA ww dot com website. That's the India website until Mr Snyder's private investigators came to my office to inquire is to my relationship with the website I informed Snyder's private investigator Jim Conklin of this fact prior to the filing I then told told him to tell his client Mr Snider to go fuck himself. That was there. Now, as mentioned yesterday ran dots up has represented Dwight Shar previously. In legal issues. the filing the emergency filing makes no reference to the connection between ran data and Shar. However, the court granted the motion to conduct the requested discovery on Thursday and if there's indeed no connection, no evidence will be harvested but this guy ran dots just objects to the statements made about him personally in this filing and once those statements to be expunged from the official court filing. Again. I mean we're does it end? There is the Beth Wilkinson investigation. There's an arbitration with the commissioner appointing an arbitrator to look at the three minority owners and why they rousted from the board. There is two different filings in two different courts one on this mary-ellen Blair in Arlington, and another in this California case are in this California court and then there was this from earlier this morning Mary Ellen Blair claiming that Daniel Snyder is using court filings as a cover to defame her. I'll just read the story. It's pretty brief with Washington owner Daniel Snyder pursuing in India a defamation lawsuit that focuses on articles falsely connecting him to Jeffrey Epstein. Snyder is using the American court system to obtain testimony documents that I stenciled only would support the case and that apparently would show a link back to Washington. Minority Dwight Shar one of the persons from whom Snyder seeks evidence is evidence claims that Snyder is simply using legal proceedings is cover for making false and damaging statements about her and this is former Mary former Washington employees. Executive Assistant to Dan Snyder Mary Ellen Blair has filed a formal opposition to Snyder's effort to pursue information in a in a federal court in Virginia. Her lawyers ultimately characterizing the entire entire effort is a device for defaming her without subjecting Snyder to liability for defamation. Here's the quote Snyder's application should be denied because it was made in bad faith for the purpose of harassing Blair and intimidating other former employees who have been speaking to reporters about the sexually hostile work environment that Snyder perpetuated during his twenty one year ownership of the team The mary-ellen Blair Blair's lawyers continue writing the sweeping and invasive discovery requests seem specifically crafted for the purpose of burdening Blair and for providing snyder with a vehicle to disparage her publicly will hiding behind the doctrine of judicial immunity to avoid a defamation suit being brought against him. Blair's lawyers claim Snyder has sent private investigator investigators to follow her and to speak with her friends and co-workers Blair's lawyers. Contend contend that the false in disparaged disparaging allegations made by Snyder has caused Blair severe emotional distress distress and reputational damage which was almost certainly Snyder's intent. Close quote. I she also in this declaration that she did provide information to the India. Clearinghouse and that she's never told anyone that Snyder has a connection to Jeffrey Epstein and has never offered or alluded to bribes in exchange for negative information about Snyder. By the way. Mary Elle and Blair represented by Lisa banks and Deborah Katz, who are representing those women as well it just gets crazier. What's true and what isn't true? Obviously, he's not happy about the smear campaign and at the same time perhaps his effort to tie this back to Shahr is a cover for everything to make it look like it's someone else's fault which by the way is always his move. I don't know. Crazy stuff. Here's a word from one of our sponsors. The athletic supposed show. 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That's not what you're seeing these games. These games are outrageously intense and the Toronto Ending Against Boston. Last night on Ojea nobis three pointer at the Buzzer with the the inbounds pass game with point five seconds left was crazy the. the hockey's been crepe to the flyers came. Back from three one, they've up that series three games apiece with a third overtime win over Berry trots squad. They wanted in the second overtime last night in game seven tonight there to game sevens in hockey tonight Just GonNa rip off a few things here a Ryan. Kelly. If I don't know if you guys saw this became the highest paid center in League history cold signed him to a four year fifty million dollar contract extension that includes thirty four million dollars guaranteed money That was the pick that the redskins wanted to make in twenty sixteen they ended up obviously with Josh toxin which wasn't great. But I Scott McClellan on the radio show right after the drafter before the draft I can't remember exactly when the pick was Ryan Kelly if he was going to be. There they were praying that he would drop twenty one but the colts took him at eighteen that was the the number one player on their board or they thought would be the number one player on their board at twenty one he went, and then it became a scramble to get a wide receiver they like fuller and Dachshund they actually were able to trade back one spot and get dachshund fuller's become a better player obviously So Houston got the better of that deal and I was dead wrong about dachshund most of you know that dead wrong about dachshund. One last story I'm going to save some of the Ron Rivera stuff from yesterday for next week. the Hornets. The Charlotte Hornets that is fired their radio announcer, John. faulk. FAULK is a first year play by play guy for the Hornets Organization and they fired him. Because of a tweet, he put out a few nights ago during the nuggets jazz game, it wasn't the seventh game that they played. It was one of the Games where Jamal Marine Donovan Mitchell were having you know an epic scoring battle They had a couple of those during that series and I talked about it a little bit during the podcast but this was the tweet that he put out during one of those games quote shotmaking in this jazz. Instead. Of Writing Nuggets he wrote the N. words slur. Okay. shotmaking in this jazz n Word Slur and he wrote it out. The actual word game is awesome Marine Mitchell going back and forth what a game. Few hours later he realized that he had put out jazz the N. Word I mean written out. Okay. in full and he said earlier today I wrote I made a horrific error while attempting to tweet about the Denver Utah Game I don't know how I miss typed it. I had and have no intention of ever using that word I take full responsibility for my actions. I've been sick to my stomach about it ever since I'm truly sorry that this happened and I apologize to those I offended. The team fired him and they said the Charlotte Hornets announced today that John Fox will will not return as the team's radio broadcaster due to a violation of the organization social media policy. Since this is a personnel matter, the organization will not comment any further the Hornets thank John for all of his efforts during the twenty, nineteen, twenty, twenty season. Now many people suggested even the face of his apology that that are correct programs on phones don't automatically change nuggets to the N. word suggesting that faulk would have needed to use the word intentionally in the past for his phone to learn it. Now Look I. Have a hard time believing that the play by play voice on Radio for an NBA team would tweet out that word the next you know possibility if you think that he uses that word and has that in his heart is to believe that somehow that phone learned that word that he's used that word in his phone before an auto corrected nuggets to that word. But. There's also another very plausible explanation and it's this if you look at your keyboard on your phone. the word nuggets to end up being the N. Word Slur there would be two letters that would have to change the you and the tea. If you replace the You with an eye and you replace the within our, it would be the N.. Word Slur. Very interestingly, the letter you is right next to the letter I on the keyboard. And the letter T is right next to the letter are on the keyboard keyboard. So it certainly plausible that it was an honest miss typed mistake. The other thing I would add to that because CJ and itis morning on radio CJ tried this if you type in the N. word. On twitter, it does not autocorrect to anything and it doesn't even identify it as a misspelled word. So some sort of indication is he's trying to get this thing out quickly. to comment on the game that he's watching any said quote I was trying to get it done as fast as I could so that it was relevant by the time I posted it. I tried to type it obviously, I missed the word nuggets and I did not read it, which is you know that's the number one rule in working in media I would say it's the number one rule period and he said unfortunately, I didn't because I was trying to get it up his fast as possible and I hit send while. That was the biggest said mistake he's ever made and others have made it as well I you know what to believe I think I would lean in the direction of he mis typed it and it was an honest mistake I have no idea what's really true. I don't know who John Fox's tell you what you put in Faulk. F.. O. C.. K.. E., that could autocorrect to a bitty pretty bad word but actually word that's nowhere near as bad as the N. Word Slur. The the point is there is a plausible explanation which many of the new stories didn't even pick up on the fact that that keyboard on your phone that you're one letter away your two letters in total from a mistake in both of those letters are next to the letter that would create the mistake. But perhaps he is you know a dark hearted racist used it many times on his phone and text messages and somehow you know he misspelled nuggets and it corrected it to that word. That's my guest. Possible. anyway. CJ also put nuggets in many times misspelled it many times and it didn't once on his phone corrected the N. Word I did it as well didn't once correct to the N. word. Anyway interesting times we're living in There is no in this environment opportunity to forgive that honest mistake maybe there should be but the problem with this one is, how do you prove it? How do you prove that he just missed typed it? I don't know that you can. But it seems like they're certainly a decent possibility that it was an honest mistake t-word. I that's it for the day enjoy the weekend Monday is Labor. Day Won't be here. Monday will be here the rest of the week as we get you ready for the NFL season lots of predictions. Next week, Tommy will be on a big surprise next Friday on the show as well. Kevin Sheehan show appreciate listening. Have a great weekend stay well.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR4)

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Doodoo Kaku so so I phoned is releasing a new iphone when you just bought a ten and a nine and eight and a seven eleven eleven now all of a sudden. There's an eleven coming in out that has three different phones on it. I mean three different cameras on the phone. It's like instead of one you can do all sorts of weird creative things with the Selfie. It's called like the slow female something totally different. What is it. It's a I guess it does. We're tricks. I don't have it yet. uh-huh slow motion against allows you to do. I don't think that's a waste of money for you given that you really haven't mastered iphone one like you don't really use any of the features. I don't think he'll worry about. I do features know what you mean. You're not really tech. I have tax out for the Bank uh-huh. I have an APP I had ever use it. Those are the only to have the UBER APP do you do you have your news feed. That's constantly refreshing. Do what do you mean is news feeds from six years ago. I know but I don't need all the other extra stuff unnecessary. I I don't need to the the stuff yoga facebook and twitter and all that I don't play games on your phone or why would I play games door Pandora and Pandora's a good question music yeah. I didn't connected knows that that's the home sounds. Definitely doesn't have that no. We have a different hotel system at home. You mean on my phone. Yeah all your stuff that did not turn it on my off from here era do it when I get home. Netflix Amazon prime anything not on my phone and everybody's again like I'm saying let's not worry about the HBO go very quickly. Ah Travis actually asked me for my username password yeah cheap. I use it all the time if I'm GONNA accept cheap but I'm cheap adjacent for shock so the iphone eleven is coming out stands. You're GONNA get one absolutely because it has the the brand new pet portrait feature feature which allows you to take a picture of your puppy with a nice little portrait sort of technology image as you were trying to look at old episodes of real sex. Is that true the show no that's not what I said. He's session succession me yeah. I'm just trying to be clear you and I are watching. I I've watched hard knocks and like billions and Chernobyl was sean. Lock it out yeah so you're not getting a new IPHONE. I mean I'm GONNA check it out but I don't know that I would. I it just depends on what it cost and all that SORTA stuff. Let's assume amount I'm looking at analysis. I just got a new fall. You can trade advantage. Danny gift to the new six hundred bucks right here. I understand what you can do but I just literally copped a new phone within the last year getting a new phone on when this one breaks already know. This is a seven three or four years old for years to work. UTOPIA SNOB works fine. I did you not hear him say that I had crib his. Hbo That's Word doing a three year. Old Father Tangled go that far back 'cause it's three years is a lot why because the pitcher is a clear and crystal flicks so it's going to be you can't even spell pixels. He's so silly. Do you watch wow we almost made me say quality care about them more hearty watching it on my phone. It's like I'm not the picture quality of patents you wash your vendors just kind of killing time in a line. That was cute morning. You're listening to Los Angeles. You certainly have been around. They certainly have been around those people in the hills for sure me when you start questioning people's education you know he certainly have been doing that. Question Educational surprised year cry that surprises me. I would have gotten in what I'm surprised that you're get a new phone guy. That's surprising yeah if it comes out and like it I'll get it. I mean I wrote with a blackberry forever. You would not surprise me. I would have gotten the blue to do all right as promised join right now by Josefina. SPN Good morning just seeing how are you. I'm good you know I. I hear he's deciding. They're blowing it up blowing it up as you say Joe Joe this food sitting over here. I want black on black crime talking about I can't spill Pixel and listen to me just because he grew up behind guard gated communities. He think a brother just don't have any indication but that just goes to show. He didn't allow them him to get in his brain but anyway. Let's move on and move forward. You can't get people night thinking on exactly. They didn't allow become a producer and he don't he don't hang out with us in the more banquet. See you hit that now. We got back right. He's he C- Khartoum's actually based on Rosh terrible parable so I know you running around you working on a senior like nine different television stations and radio shows and everything chasing down this Antonio Brown situation with the accused of sexual assault and a former trainer. What's how how how is this unfolding. What's the development now so far. We figured you were out working because we tried to call you earlier. Give us a little bit of update so right now. Bill Belichick just spoke to the media via in Foxborough and he told the media that Ab is scheduled to practice today when he was asked whether ab a B would play. He said that they were taking it day today. meanwhile Adam Schefter also reporting that the accuser Britney Taylor her and we're naming her because she named herself in a civil lawsuit that she filed against Antonio Brown is willing to speak to the NFL as early as next week. I think the words that are very pertinent and trying to determine where this is going go with Antonio Brown that are very key is conduct you know detrimental because regardless of whether he is found and guilty regardless of whether he's charged civilly or criminally remember article forty six in the collective collective bargaining agreement give commissioner. Roger Goodell basically an open slate to be able to determine what is conduct detrimental will as he sees it and what he feels has tarnished the shield to basically you know set forth whatever discipline if he feels was like it is necessary so that'll be interesting to watch and meantime while there is a investigation that we assume will happen spend based on the statement from the Patriots the option is there for the Commissioner to put into Audio Brown on the exempt list while Ab. You could still get paid but not practice or play while they're making such determination. That's still an option as well how much of this in terms of what the NFL offices processing has also do it the fact that the owner of the team recently went through not exact same situation for Sunni elements elements of the same situation and how the NFL dealt with that well. You're right you know the Patriots certainly have a lot of experience dealing with expensive issues regarding their personnel which would include their owner and pass players and but it doesn't seem based on just watching bill bell check in that press conference that they are thwarted the question was asked whether they knew about it before they they signed Antonio Brown. I just reported for sportscenter. At least that's what I was taping that leaks or even told me that they noticed chatter letter of the pending lawsuit against Antonio Brown as early as Sunday and that's significant because the and that was on social media and that's significant because the team didn't officially sign Antonio Brown until the day after Monday which suggests that there was still you know time for the the Patriots to potentially notice even that based on their own resource or whatever backchannel gives them information and even from the League so it'd be interesting. I think you know to kind of see if he plays as some other people are noting that it's significant right now they beat doesn't seem to assign the number you know. Benjamin Watson has the number eighty four but I guess the local media we'll see that pretty soon here because I think your practices at twelve if he's there what number he's wearing and and to go from there Josina Anderson joining us on keyshawn L Z and Travis just the court case will run its course in hill either be found innocent and not guilty guilty but the language that was used in some of the direct messages that was going back and forth do you think that that might have some impact on how the NFL reactionist prior to any sort of decision in the case itself just the language in the back and forth between him and this woman could that have an effect on their decision about whether or not to suspend him. I think that's an incredibly astute question and it's what I exactly underlying in the incident analysis. I just did on sportscenter. you know in the text messages that you're referring to or the two you messages that she included in her lawsuit where she alleges on these things against Antonio Brown and in these messages that are alleged to be the from Antonio Brown they include language that is very you know profane crew towards females in general and and certainly that has a connotation and could cast a certain you know spurs in as well you know particularly as a representative of the National Football League league and just as a man and just as a father enough himself so that is something that definitely can be looked at in addition to just the combination of things things that Antonio Brown has been in the headlines for you know altogether so he will certainly look at that as a whole but I think that that is an astute question and because it's been made public and I don't know whether Antonio Brown is denying or dot and I think it's not worthy to say that whether those messages passages or from him but I will say this I do get the impression based off of conversations that I've had that you know there's more to come as far as has both during his side when it comes to his version of events based on what we've heard and what we haven't heard yet real quick you gotta run. You'll see in thirty seconds. Who have you heard from Pittsburgh side or the Oakland Raider side about any of this have all yeah I mean I spoke to a raider source yesterday or when it happened and basically their reaction. was you know shook our head and said not our problem. a raider stories had also indicated to me as a bit reporting on Antonio Brown situation for a while now that more was to come and now here we have more to come and really the conversation just also extended to you know what Mike mayock would acknowledge on record as to you know the things that transpired between the two of them on record that led to him finding Antonio Brown over two hundred thousand dollars and his eventual. You know departure. You're from there as well so obviously they're glad to be rid of the headache and many of them did not feel like his apology was sincere. US peons Josina Anderson the latest on the Antonio Brown's story. Thanks a bunch Joe. I take it easy for Sally Intro. Oh you should have some Bob Marley key set right there John Salley joining us right now worst Dennis Rodman thirty for thirty aired last night on Espn John Salley a prominent part of that Komo John. How are you what's up man. Megan floor show man. I'm watching your TV until proud. Oh thank you thank you sir. I learned from you. Thank you thank you thank you I. I watched you last night. Though you know checking you out okay well then. I won't tell you what you said. No you look you look real artsy of the salad looking all artsy talking talking about Dennis Rodman. you know. I got this theory that if you're a black man you dye your hair blond. Chances are sums uh-huh going go wrong and clearly a lot went wrong with Dennis Rodman. You had a chance to win championships with him play with him. Watch him developed from a key to wear are years today. What kind of tell me what you think went wrong throughout the course of this last thirty or forty years that he's been around. I don't know if raw the reason I say that is the guys trailblazer and he showing how to be a self and he was himself you know he he he was himself he got to be he got to be autistic. He got to do movies. He got to hang out. He got to make tons of money doing it. His Way I think the guy had a different path and it just happened to land on this planet with us got to experience I really do so. It's not so in other words. It's not like a train wreck like we seen it but like we sing our is now he became like this guy was like you know what when he was getting cut by my boy. Thomas and putting all the designs that people were loving the design when he then so demolition man and Wesley Snipes. Did it next thing you know he had that the heck gotten. Everybody forgot that it was in the movie holy demolition man and he stuck with it a John. You guys obviously one a lot of basketball games together MM-HMM I remember your. US spider him as the worm and then you decide to go to the Chicago Bulls which made sense in the world but Dennis Rodman going going to the Chicago Bulls was a head scratcher to me for a lot of reasons. What did you think when you made that transition over. I knew Michael was GONNA wind. Watch ships and I knew Scotty was going to get over the fact that how we talk to them and then it wasn't doing it because he hated him. Dentist it was rule. You allow people they were going to the basket. You allowed to intimidate at that time but they also have a love with that because these are really good dude it just yeah these antics that when the camera comes on he return on because when the cameras aren't on introvert hurt John Salley is our guest he's part of the thirty for thirty on Dennis Rodman that aired last night in in one of the things you said in the piece was Dennis never understood that the NBA was a business that that that when player started to move coaches started to leave that it really shook him up. Did he ever get over that. The fact fact guys move on coaches go to different teams or was that something that continued to bother him long after it had happened. I would think it really bothered them when traded me and chuck was getting fired and they were moving people around it just came to his to his point to the guy that took him in like like a father was part of the system. That really really pissed them off. I think he realized NBA. It was going to be a so always going to be. He was a business that he was going to be a part of it that he was. GonNa make the business the way he wanted it. I mean that's a point where he was in commercials. I mean the international moves of dime vandamme they write books about a baby mamas writing right books. I mean I it just showed how much money can come in his room. In nineteen ninety six an agent and then there's security there and they would just literally vetting calls during the finals on where he could be what I'm I'm how much you had to pay him. He was just playing video games and the Apis like I let them handle everything and his business cards the Dennis Rodman always in the spotlight and so he got to a point where he realized more than playing basketball I think he realized that he was representing the NBA but in his own way people wanted him. They wanted that Ed's and gave Dennis last night in the thirty for thirty you went on to say as they talked about him pulling in front of the palace with the shotgun thinking about taking his own life that you didn't feel that that was was the case that it was going to be something that wasn't going to happen but others in thirty for thirty thought that that would have been the case that he would have done it but he wind up not doing it. What happened in that whole cycle it was you know when these having this like anybody else when you having a rough time you take a ride and you go to places that you're comfortable and familiar and the one thing he knew is I go to pilot. We used to go to the Silverdome Sundays well. We didn't have practice go to the SAINA. Lift weights was a safe place for you know I think him going in knowing it's gonNA open and he can go and get on a bike sitting in a steam room. Sign a aw you know put ice in the machine and in the tub it was going to be a safe place for him to calm down and by the time that ride sentences opposed going all the way home and drive back just went there do. I think he would have had those tendencies. Yeah a lot of people when everything's thanks thinks like is going down in the world is moving so fast as a professional athlete. You think the only way off this ride is Stop is to stop the body but I don't think he would have literally done it that way. I think he was very distraught over any but I think he understand license more import obviously as a basketball player. He complained today's. NBA But could he stay in today's NBA with everything else that he's known to have been doing explain that question well for instance all the other extra things things like the dress like the drinking partying getting back in time to play in a basketball game when you're invaders the night before he did all of that before for social media. Could he do those things today. Oh my God well really it wasn't before social media because every time we did something we heard about it the next day so with other people have the ability to have the right to pictures or videos yeah. I think he's still would have done them and I think they would have been even bigger when he was in when he was in Vegas with common electric. Get get married. I heard about it right after they got married. When you got on the plane playing San Antonio and supposedly took a fighter jet to take them back and forth to Madonna. I think that would've thought of social media I think that became news remember him getting dress as a female him putting on a wedding dress with a wig and makeup became international news he became the most known faith in a war and that's up there with the pulp and the president of the United States I think he kind of started the social media frenzy and what we consider to be the news cycle today John Salley team Dennis Rodman's in his thirty on Dennis Rodman chaired last night on Espn John time. Thanks hey anything the ACACIA not for me. I guess we're not anything to doing no way that he was able to do all that right now in the NBA no way yeah you know wake things in drink like that. In new party still play he dated back. It could do it now because it's so you really think so you really think the guys in the NBA don't party and drink now that I don't know his drinking. God excessive live at the end of his career to a whole `nother level but while he was playing in Detroit in Chicago in in Tonio he drank but not like he does is not you know his pulse career so he was still party and be able to do all of those things because guys right now in professional sports they still get in. They'll go out but that's at a party. That's a level above and beyond party and they don't look like Dennis Rodman where you see him coming from but what do you mean well some of the guys I mean he gets attention soon as he walks in and does he he can still do it as long as he's performing people that don't know a lot of these guys you see in the NBA that are getting it people that don't don't necessarily if you watch him being with Zach late. Robin doesn't matter if he's performing at the level traveled he was performing back then he still party in do what he was doing is still ball if he was as long as he put up numbers as long as you supposed to do on the court all right so as as. I mentioned minute ago drew Rosenhaus was on sportscenter with Kerry champion earlier talking about the accusations against his client Antonio Brown strongly believe that the allegations are very serious in no way. Do we condone any type of illegal conduct misbehavior. None of that happened to you okay so turmoil surrounding else. This is okay. I fear here that is fine but in light of all the turmoil surrounding your Client Antonio Brown. Why should the Patriots stick with him well. Let's keep in mind that this conduct that is being alleged supposedly centers around a relationship in twenty eighteen. This has nothing to do with Antonio's foot injury. This is nothing to do with the helmet issue. This is nothing to do with the issues. They have with the Oakland Raiders. This is nothing to do with the New England patriots. This has to do with a allegations going back to a year and a half ago the current turmoil you say this has nothing to do with the Patriots in fact it does your client is now a Patriot a new member of the Patriots today's his first day at practice. Do you know if the Patriots knew about these allegations ahead of time and signing him. I'm not going to get into that element. I'm not going to get into my discussions with the Patriots or what may or may not have been discussed. I just want to reiterate people should please keep in mind than Antonio Denies. These allegations see we'll have a full investigation. He will go through the legal the process and we will cooperate and there are facts out there that will come to light that will establish that he is indeed not guilty of any of these accusations he's ations. This is a civil matter and this is the preceding where the accuser is seeking financial gain all right so that's drew Rosenhaus with Kerry champion on Sportscenter Arts Center a few minutes ago Let's let's start with this key first of all when he says it has nothing to do with the helmet nothing to do with the feet nothing to do with the raiders. I get that one plus one on isn't necessarily too but anytime Antonio Brown's involved in anything all of this is coming back in and I think no it is and I think so you know it's a very sensitive subject but because ABC had some past history of some things not go particularly well with at the other teams. Everybody's GonNa Point to those things you know carry was asking some of the right questions and he was answering them the way he knew how as spin doctor but it's under investigation in you know until they finish the investigation. We don't know all we know is two sides. The young lady says is one thing Brittany says one thing. ABC's another all the evidence is GonNa. Come to the light regardless right he's got. I'm sure he's got some stuff if that he hasn't given anybody but his lawyers his lawyers got it ready to present it. I'm sure she's got some stuff in her lawyer. Gospel stuff they ready present in at the end of the day. We'll I don't know what it is. We'll know what it is and I think by Bill Belichick saying day by day. They're very cautious in the situation because of every other stopped at a B.'s been you know and I'm sure he's set him down already in looking square in the face and asked him. Did you do that and he probably told him no in. They're gonNA move forward from there. You always make eight that face what what's wrong. That's you in there. It's time for keys power rankings key. I'm excited to see where my rams are number ten mood at that's a tease number ten last week. You had the Vikings keyshawn. I did have that number ten who did where did. I have the seahawks because I only have a ten year ago number art art. Thank you lost your account. You forgot the caravan because they've been in the top ten since we've been doing this show but had them of a father. I think they were like fourteen or something. Well guess what they they are the Dama Bank here. Here's is a tough I everybody barely beat somebody except the pats okay. Hey when you look at it. Everybody barely beat somebody but you talk about Seattle clowns new. They're trying to find a receiver that they replace Doug Baldwin. They played at home. It's a new situation first game of the year at the end of the day they had. Andy Dong look like Dan Marino but I still believe in a seahawk they are or one of the top ten teams after week one in the NFL say so and of course Thursday night we saw a stinker from the packers and bears and you had to packers at number nine last week he sean yes but that is not the case to pack move and I'm not gonNa tell you what the Philadelphia Eagles. They moved and number nine. I'm starting to believe even Carson Wentz after that come from behind victory against the Washington redskins was waiting for you guys to say something but the Redskins had them at halftime halftime twenty two three but they got in the second half. They've made some halftime adjustments the second half they came out firing and their number nine. You said you're starting to believe in Carson Wentz. Why are you just how come to see to it because he just hurt but he was an MVP candidate yeah that was three years ago so insult new car now. What are you reading car. Find out well yeah they moved from wherever they were but they move slightly outside of the Tin Block break and you had the the cowboys America's team at number eight but they move today ever move ooh number eight this Wiki the Green Bay packers the stinker on Thursday night. Matt Leflore didn't get the ice bucket coach. Peyton did the defensive coordinator. Chicago played solid defense. There's no question about it. Their offense stinks Green Bay. I'm unsure about what the team is but number twelve is the beast he they won the game based on twelve throwing the touchdown touchdown Jimmy Graham that's how they win the game and they WanNa game where they only score ten points. I think for the packers that's really good news if they can win without scoring thirty five that's great. It's really good news in after week. One I think they belong in the eight spot in the top ten seven and another team. That's always been top ten and always a super bowl contender for some reason in your eyes. The the Pittsburgh steelers were number seven last week. They don't have a B and they don't have Leon bill so they in trouble. I can tell you that right right now. Number seven and Minnesota Vikings right the Vikings moved from ten to seven they search kirk cousins like the Kirk cousins that they gave all the money to Dalvin Alvin cooking backfield. I knew that that would be a different situation. Receivers good the defense plays solid sale. They beat up the Atlanta Falcons something that none of us finished ruled thought would even happen I did oh you've got to beat them down the way that they did. I tell you the Falcons I've been having suffering from his hangover from losing the Super Bowl and I told you that detainees be blown up you sure did they only dozens throw ten passes and he only fuel daily drop back to pass ten times and completions. That's all it matters yeah but you can't. You can't run on the ball. Eighty percent of the time Kenya Yeah Play run defense. I mean you play you. Run the ball and you play solid defense and you're GONNA WIN Games. That's them wants to do anyway. Kirk cousins is a glorify manager. He's almost like memory. Trent dilfer wasn't they won the Super Bowl. That was a that was a run deep run. Offense treat makes a few throws here near and play solid defense. Were Ray Lewis. That's what you're going to get with. The Minnesota Vikings number six of course we had your friend Anthony Lynn. Andy Los Angeles charges that number six last week. WHO's there this week but charges are still. They're gonNA sit at six. I think that's a nice sweet spot for them right now. At this early in the Season Melvin Garden Lineup Philip rivers is is doing when he can do out there enough but they still almost by that one against the Indianapolis Colts Weaver said if it wasn't for a couple of Misfield goes extra point attempts by vegetarian then they may be on the hillside and out of the top ten but that didn't happen they are in the top ten at number six all right and L Z mentioned the Tina should be broken up. He said that on and off the gotTa. I give you credit therapy. You are perfect with the pick by the way Zinke yes. Sir Move along five number five points. The Falcons outcomes are completely out of nowhere to be found in the top ten. I'm very disappointed in what they tried to accomplish week one. It didn't happen but I got the Kansas City chiefs chiefs with no defense I put him at number five a week ago. They were my number one team to start the season pretty precipitous drop after a lawsuit his drought but it's not about just not about the the win. It's about the loss tyreek. Hill Yeah Dawn right right. I mean he's out of the for awhile for awhile the defense not great guard you're not buying Gardner minzhu rookie quarterback would've would've handlebar moustache. I mean come on so I'm moved them down from one to five which is still in the top ten in which is a sweet spot but the defense scares me no Tyreek hill I understand semi Watson had a great. Semi Walk has had a great game but at the same time what does that mean. That's one game one game against the Jacksonville team that nothing our so good all right number four we had our Los Angeles Rams their best. They're number four. The Rams stayed there. The rams stay over. We'll move up when they barely got out of Carolina barely wins we want they barely got the Carolina they gotTa Barely Carolina with no receiving help for Cam Newton Cam Newton just basically trying to win a game by him and McCaffrey. I mean come on now. Key now. Come on I understan- that you love you some Cam Newton but here's the deal. They didn't barely beat them. Yeah no point during the game. Did you think they were going to lose that game. Yes idea last last several minutes of the game. I thought they will lose number. The three were the Patriots who have a new well. Maybe new weapon but the Patriots they went into your steelers that you love you. Cut It so much and they won but they were three last week. WHO's number three this week. I'm alita paths right at three. I'm a leave him at three. I mean you could look these top three teams that are coming up. You got the patent into other teams on my top team. They're they're all interchangeable. As far as I'm concerned the pats looked like the superior team in the AFC no question opening day at home. Get their ring celebrate. The whole dealer jacked up sharp did no matter what they look like the team to beat but to other teams that I got ahead of them looked like the team to be too do so that's where we're at the team. I'm already offended by his list of that. WHO's at number two Phoenix because I noticed during your top two and they barely want. Why is option number? Two number were the saints last week. Could they possibly move up after barely winning. WHO's a number two this interesting team that was eight jumped all the way to number two the Dallas cowboys how sweet play the American theme to D- Do not on. What do you want really want. Never Mind God bless America The Dallas Cowboys Dak Prescott Zeki Elliot like touches alone with Amari Cooper or a new Jason witten both in blocking games in the past Kelly Moore will be the next head coach of the Buffalo Bills when you look at all that Prescott is planned for a major contract after week one. You can't tell me that they didn't look like the best team in the NFC could play they played the giant doesn't matter it was this it was flawless. What was New England hold on? I said the NFC in New England Look Best Team and AFC. They look like heading on a collision course for the Super Bowl. Did it not uh-huh Oh God. You're supposed to sell it to me. Well what's going to happen this week. When he played a Redskins. We'll find out Ivanka here yogi and number one and number one. You had the chiefs last week. I was down. Who's your number one. This I was face moved from two to one so the states I think the saints and when you look at them there was a tough. A tough row tried to tell me it's not so easy to win opening day in New Orleans for the saints they did pull it out out though when a long fifty yard field they got no twenty nine years wow you know what that means that you're old that I'm who boy hold on what does this as part this is when they're going to the credits now to show here comes West Hollywood born and raise most of my twenty nine years ago today gentlemen the fresh Prince came out it was good. It was great. It was really good good. It was it was great. Karyn Parsons played the older sister. I used to think your affinity for only actresses interest was based in the seventies. No loses past eighties and I'm sure the white folks no no sweet good time but Karyn Parsons Yeah Hillary Twenty Hillary both the the bio reminds me a little bit though what no longer ask sometimes he's that's right. We're celebrating Hump Day Wednesday by giving away a pair of sweet league tickets this time to see the Elliott versus Toronto. FC That's right. This is your last chance. Don't Miss Your chance to see the AFC take on Toronto see next Saturday September the twenty first at the Bank of California Stadium and that'll be at seven thirty PM Pacific Time now. Here's how you can win call eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN and caller number seven who can answer this here where you just heard key Schanz top ten as power rankings. Give me one of the teams that jumped in to the top ten teams jumped in and you win takeaway Travis and L Z so we were talking with Anderson few minutes ago and the the the question in that I asked her that I think may be Antonio Brown's ultimate undoing in this whole thing. It's not necessarily did he do it or did he. Not that that that will we'll find out you know if this thing in fact goes in front of a judge or jury will find out what the decision is and that may determine a piece of this is but the NFL like she said Roger Goodell does not need him to get convicted in a criminal case he does not need to have a judgment against him in a civil case for him to to do something all he needs to do is see something he doesn't like and he can swing the hammer and those direct messages between him and the woman accusing him of these these these incidents. The language in 'em is is pretty rough and if he looks at that and again the NFL is on really dicey ground when it comes to violence against women. I mean they botched it with Ray Rice. They botched it previously. This is something that they're gonNA if they're gonNA miss. They're gonNa miss going the other direction in this that sort of languages some so you can look at that and say you got to do something about that the reason why I keep saying the NFL need to put him on ice until investigation is through. Is You know definite related to your point clearly. There's something the the happened between these two individuals and now you're at the point where you need to fear our consent but you have the exchange that sounds let's just say less than lovingly yeah so even if it was consensual it does it doesn't sound it was communicated as it was respected. He was crude very very crude and if you Roger Goodell and you looking at this individual who for lack of a better word has been careless in the way in which he has handled his own perception in terms of the public eye and thus has tainted the NFL to a small degree because he's a star in the NFL he's with the New England patriots which let's just say got a whole lot of gates uh-huh associated with it the most recent being massaged gate. If you will orchids of Asia Gay you gotta put that on ice because if you don't put that on ice in combination to the fact that you've blackballed Colin Kaepernick for doing having an opinion Nadan baton nothing at all I mean you're looking really really bad really really bad I when we started this morning. I thought okay we're GONNA. We'll see how this thing shade and the more we go through it and when we did take it to shake it with key and I asked him you know. Do you think he plays the Sunday. They know and then do you think he ever played. No it because look if I'm the Patriots we saw they look like on Sunday night. Those good football team yes are they better with. Ab Yeah probably probably but do they need him. Nope no no so why. Why do I want to bring in that. The Patriots of all the teams in the League are probably the less tolerant of stuff than anybody else and I don't know if anybody has more stuff than Antonio Brown does yeah. I it just going to be amazing because this is a man who in twelve months may be kicked off his thirteen essentially and lose millions of dollars twice having said that that Belichick has been a record and he's been consistent with this. When you start with us you start with a clean slate. Give you one chance that's it but the slates not clean anymore the slates dirty before he's even gotten into camp. He said they're gonNA take it day by day. We'll see Stephen a Smith coming up next have a fantastic Wednesday.

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Stats & Eggs: Mohamed Sanu agrees to deal with 49ers

Niners Nation

04:06 min | 11 months ago

Stats & Eggs: Mohamed Sanu agrees to deal with 49ers

"Good Morning I'm rob. Stats Guerrero today. Is Wednesday September sixteenth twenty twenty here's what's happening with your San Francisco Forty niners up until about an hour before I recorded this show, I was planning to tell you all about the rumor that the browns were shopping wide receiver Beckham junior that rumor perked up the years of forty niners fans because we think the team should be interested in. Every single player that could possibly become available, and also maybe because the forty niners were missing their to starting wide receivers on Sunday and the receivers that did play put up a combined four catches for forty one yards as a group. But if you listen to this podcast yesterday, you heard Kyle Shanahan tell you exactly which receiver he had his eye on. You know I love know. Helluva player. So him being out, there is always a possibility. But I wouldn't rule that out at all Lo and behold about twenty four hours after making that statement. Mohamed Sanu is in fact, a San Francisco forty, nine according to ESPN Josina Anderson. The receiver was on his way to San Francisco on Tuesday night Sanu told Anderson quoted happened. So quick I'm on the plane now gotTa have the rest of my clothes sent Kyle said it'll be awesome to have me. So I feel welcome scenario could be a welcome sight for forty niners fans. But only if he bounces back from an underwhelming year in two thousand, nineteen last year, he averaged eight point eight yards per. Catch on fifty nine total receptions and he had a career low five point, eight yards per target. As for one, we could see some new on the field. It's going to be a crazy week for him. It's a good thing. He's familiar with Kyle Shanahan system because he can't get on the practice field with the team until he passes three days of Covid, nineteen tests. So if he arrives on Tuesday night and immediately gets tested the earliest he could get on the field with the team is Friday one day before the team boards a plane and flies to New Jersey to play the jets on Sunday. Oh by the way, sue grew up about a half hour away for metlife stadium. Mohamed Sanu wasn't the only player the forty niners were looking to add on Tuesday but this one didn't quite turn out the same way pass rusher Ziggy Ansah worked out for the team but left the facility without a contract. It's a little surprising that onset didn't sign because he has a history with multiple people in the forty niners organization from when he was the fifth overall draft pick in two thousand thirteen. No word yet on who else the forty niners will bring in now that they couldn't reach an agreement with answer. We always give you something to read something to watch and something you might have missed something to read on this Wednesday is Kyle Posey's winners and losers column from week one against the cardinals now, I know you might think it's easy to call the entire team losers since they didn't win the game because a lot more nuanced than that. That's why you come here right for that content and plenty more forty niners news and notes you can always go niners nation dot. com. Just not right now you know 'cause me something to watch according to the NFL network's Ian Rapoport Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas is expected to miss several weeks with a high ankle sprain, which he sustained Sunday against the buccaneers. Thomas at the single season record for receptions last year with one, hundred, forty, nine catches the forty niners traveled to new. Orleans. To play the saints in Week Ten Thomas should be backed by then but high ankle sprains are tricky. So you never know. You may have missed yesterday in this spot we told you about some horribly racist messages. The Cardinal Safety Buddha Baker was sent on social media. The forty niners condemned the messages yesterday in a statement and said trying to identify the sender to ban him from ever attending another game or team event. Good. That's going to do it for this edition of stats and eggs please rate review and subscribe to the Niners Nation Podcast, and you'll get this and other podcasts like Shannon plan, which drops later today kyle posing a cash on a very often they'll take a deeper dive into the game one film and tell you what went wrong and why I'm Rob Stats Guerrero we'll talk tomorrow.

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Hour 1: Dan Graca filling in

The Stephen A. Smith Show

39:37 min | 2 years ago

Hour 1: Dan Graca filling in

"This is the Steven A. Smith Show podcast Stephen going on everybody. Dan Gross and Infra Stephen Smith here on this Friday July twenty sixth on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News across the country today say E._S._P._N.. Is Our telephone number eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six if you want to be part of the program and E._S._p._N.. Radio is presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bumble your home and car for Insurance N._F._l.. Is All the rage of course we're GonNa talk about that and then some are n._f._l.. Insider Josina Anderson will join me coming up a little bit later on this hour and the man himself. Stephen is also going to be checking in sometime before the program is through get his take on all the things that are percolating in the sports world but if you're like me and you're an N._F._l.. Diehard like this is our time. Every team is now in camp. Every team is on the field except there are few notable omissions and we're GONNA get into those as we move forward through the program but football is back it is in the air. You can breathe it. You can feel it and there's nothing better. We're GONNA get ourselves a game next Thursday night. The hall of fame game between the Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons so life is good if you are in N._F._l.. Fan and it is time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless and we'll get into it right away here. Starting with of course the team that has training camp out in Oxnard California that being of course the Dallas cowboys. They're they're they're gonNA hit the field today however however one notable exception at least up until now is still Ezekiel Elliott now before everybody gets in a panic here if you're a Dallas Cowboy Fan. How can we win without Zeke? We need to give Zeke the money. We need to make sure he signed. There's no way we're going to be able to win the N._F._C. East again without some of those things might be true but there are some things that are may be giving you some optimism Vera Cowboy Fan most notably is that there have been discussions here leading up until right now which is a good sign. The two teams are actively or the two sides are engaged in dialogue and that's what you would hope because I don't think the cowboys despite the fact that they want to take a hardline stance and they want to save as much money as possible and then you have the players side which of course any negotiation they want to take in as much as possible. I think that they both acknowledged that they want the same thing and that's where Zeke Elliott to be in Dallas cowboys uniform and running onto that field when they opened the season against the New York giants week number one. We know these things yes. He has two years left on his deal but I think it's without question the importance that he has for this football team is really second to none. I know that they still have to take care of Dak.. Prescott the quarterback at Amari Cooper the wide receiver all well and good and all three of them of course are very very important to the success of this football team and I know that we live in a quarterback league and it's a quarterback world in the National Football League so you would say that ordinarily the Q._B. would deserve the priority and deserve the attention the most money and all those things and that's still may be true when it's all said and done on but I think right now you WanNa take care of your bell cal you WanNa Feed Zeke Elliott because the Dallas cowboys despite the fact that they have demarcus Lawrence despite the fact that they have a couple of high octane linebackers and feel good about and there for some other areas of this football team namely the offensive line if they're healthy where you point to when you say yeah this team is good all of that crumbles if you don't have Ezekiel Elliott and I understand that you're talking about a guy that makes you a little bit uneasy and gives you a little bit of Warri in the fact that he's already dealt with a six game suspension and there are always seems to be things that pop up off the field in regards to Zeke Elliott which probably Levy a little bit uneasy night. If you're a cowboy fan I get those things but sometimes you got to overlook that and realize what's the betterment of our football team and that's having this guy on it because you could see a discernible difference the cowboys with Elliot it versus without Elliot the guys on the rushing title two out of the last three years and I don't think that that's by accident. He's really good okay. He makes this offense go. He makes Dak Prescott a better quarterback so I think it's incumbent upon upon everybody with the organization to make sure that they have him and they have him under contract and they have him happy and oh by the way I know the cowboys are defending N._F._C. East champions but you have a team like the Philadelphia Eagles who are certainly good in their own right and certainly seemed to be reckoned with team that just won a super bowl a couple of years ago and you know that the cowboys haven't won one and we're going on what couple of decades plus we're GonNa have the twenty fifth year anniversary pretty soon of the last cowboys boy Super Bowl Championship back in one thousand nine hundred five. I mean that was a long time ago and the another Philadelphia is going to be motivated football team Carson Wentz specifically because now we know that it's his show and there is no fallback conference nick foles he's down in Jacksonville and no team by the way has repeated as N._F._C. East division champions in almost fifteen years you gotta go back to Philadelphia. Did it okay so Dallas has their work cut out out for them here and as I said Philadelphia is a good football team yes. I do think that it's a two horse race in the N._F._C.. East giant still have too many question marks in Washington first of all they got to figure out who their quarterback is going to be an old by the way while we're on that subject. I'll just throw it out there right now. I know that they like to throw quarterbacks rookie quarterback's right into the fire week. One teams do that around the League right now but I think if you're the red skins it might be who've you'd bring Dwayne Haskins along a little bit slowly. You know let case keenum mm start week. One let Cole McCoy start wherever you feel more comfortable with the veterans. Have you seen the early season schedule for The Washington Redskins Philly Dallas Chicago giants Patriots you know with the exception of maybe the New York game. You got those first five weeks. You want to throw a rookie right into that. So maybe that's something the redskins should think long and hard about but they're not going to be a factor in this division this year. It's the cowboys and it's The Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas is certainly certainly enhancing their chances of winning this division again. If you have a happy zeke Elliott do. I think that it's time to push the panic button yet. If you're a cowboy fan absolutely not remember this is day one of camp. The season doesn't start until September eight September. Number Nine th whenever the first Sunday is I mean we have over a month. You're we're talking six weeks. They will come to some sort of an agreement and oh by the way remember way back when if you were old enough in the glory days of the cowboys when they were a dynasty and I brought it up a couple of minutes ago when they won super bowls three and four years you had Emmett Smith who quelled out and who didn't report to training camp remember and he missed the first two games of the season one year and that force Jerry Jones to say you know what enough is enough that paid Emmett Smith and the rest is history. I don't think it will come to that for the Dallas cowboys with Zeke Elliot and just the fact that the two sides are talking. I think gives you encouragement if you're a cowboy fan. This is a good football team. Good football team it. Oh by the way Jason Garrett's coaching for his job this year he's coaching for his job and I know that we've said that a lot about this coach with this football team and and we know that the owner has an affinity for him and some people think that he has been coaching on borrowed time in the last few years it would really enhance behoove his chances of coming back to coach the cowboys again if they went another division title and having Zeke Elliot and having Irving Dak Prescott and having Amari Cooper all in unison and all happy and healthy and playing together would certainly benefit their chances and guess what if they're all going to be there. It's hard to look at this cowboy team and say author. Not The favorites going into the season the N._F._C. East phillies good philly could be real good as a matter of fact Carson. Wentz is almost become the popular M._v._p.. Pick this year in and around the N._F._l.. Now we know that if you're a quarterback you also go in with an advantage because it's a quarterback league and more often than not the Q._B. is going to be the guy that walks away with an m._v._p.. Trophy and as I said he's got a lot to prove I expect Zeke thing to get done they. They will come to an agreement. There will be peace in cowboy land now they gotta go out there and take care of business after everything is said and done now. There's another team out. They're nameless. New Orleans saints who are also dealing with a player who's not in camp right now remains unsigned and that guy is Michael. Thomas Micheal Thomas goes without saying is one of the best wide receivers in the national football league in fact if you go back and you trace the last dozen years <unk> with drew brees is a member of the New Orleans Saints as the quarterback as the face of the franchise. It can probably be said then Michael. Thomas is the best wide receiver that drew brees has ever had in the huddle with him. He's he's playing at that high of a level Michael. Thomas is probably the best offensive weapon that drew brees has had in the huddle in all these years and I'm even going back to win. Jimmy Graham would at was at his peak phase out the same player anymore. We know that in Green Bay but still Michael Thomas is special and this is a guy. That's only scheduled to make one point one million dollars last year rookie contract. Now I know a lot of the out there are hearing that number and saying boy only one point one million dollars. A lot of people do anything to take on that kind of a paycheck. I understand that a right but he's not getting paid what he's worth and he feels that he wants more. He is outperformed his contract and I know that you've heard that before and you've I heard it a lot clearly. If you're a sports fan you are a lot of people say that but I think the situation with the saints and look they're well within their rights to play hardball with Michael Thomas and say you know what shoot dude. You're on your rookie deal. You're under contract. Go out there and play the final year and then we'll reward you and we'll take care of you when the time is right but the saints are in a different situation right now because they have a quarterback quarterback and drew brees who's clearly still playing at a very very high level but he's a guy who's no spring chicken. Drew brees eventually is not going to be able to play football at this level drew brees. Tom Brady same thing okay okay. They are defying logic there winning the war against father time right now and that's not normal so while you still have your quarterback playing at this level and while you still have them in one piece. Don't you feel that you have to go all in and and give him every opportunity and give your football team every opportunity to be successful. I mean look. Let's rewind for a second here okay. I don't have to remind you but the last couple of seasons I mean in my lifetime is a football fan going back aways right. I cannot think of a team who season seasons on back. toback occasions ended more heartbreaking than the New Orleans Saints Think about it. Write a couple of years ago in the second round of the playoffs they lose to the Vikings and the Minnesota miracle then last year the N._F._C. Championship game in their building the Phantom no pass interference call rams win the football game. They go onto the super bowl. I mean that's good punching. If you're a saints Saints Fan in consecutive seasons so you have a team that is capable of winning it all. I know the Mark Ingram is in Baltimore right now and more is going to be expected out of Alvin Kamara. I get that but you know one way to make sure that you don't feed Alvin Kamara as much and maybe run them into the ground so soon you make sure you have capable passing game. One of the ways of doing that is making sure the Mike Thomas is on that field in that huddle and his healthy and producing. I mean hundred and twenty-five catches last year. Where are you getting that production? You can say oh we're going to spread the ball around and got a hall of fame quarterback fun. How many guys is that going to take a hundred and twenty five catches? That's a a lot of production units. Just don't offer push to the side and say hey you know what will make do next man up. It's not next man up for some guys and not a guy like Michael. Thomas and this hasn't been the saints way historically. They've never paid a skill position player more than ten million dollars a season in case you've looked or having looked okay wide receivers marquee playmaker wide receivers in the N._F._l.. Get paid a little bit more than ten million dollars nowadays. He's on an annual basis and he should be included in that category. You know if they want to drag this thing out and they want to go through training camp and they WANNA play couple of preseason games and whatnot and think that it's not that big of a deal L. and we have other guys that can fill in your game breakers like this. I'm sorry you don't and breeze will be the first one to tell you. Maybe not publicly the to a man you get them in a corner and say hey drew Michael Thomas pay him not pain. He wants to guy there. Drew Brees is not have another ten fifteen years left in the national football league. I don't even know if he has another five years. Mud only have a couple so you have to make sure that you are giving him every opportunity and giving this franchise every opportunity to be successful and there's another team in that division two namely the Atlanta Falcons while Matt Ryan is not as old as drew brees and I'm ready to go off into the retirement home anytime soon. My point is it's Matt Ryan Right now was in his prime okay and you saw the Dan Quinn after down season last year in Atlanta decided to make wholesale changes fired all of his coordinators and he said you know what I'm going to be the guy that's running the show here at least on the defensive side of things you have to maximize your quarterbacks peak when you have that opportunity just like the saints have to do here breeze what the Falcons are trying to do while they have Matt Ryan. Make sure you give your team. The best chance needs to be successful and win a championship while you have your quarterback playing at a high level. It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that and I'll tell you something right now to. There's a quarterback who for a Lotta years probably considered the best in the game. If not the best one of the two or three best and we're talking about Aaron Rodgers I know that he only has one super bowl victory. I get it and the packers are coming off a couple of disappointing seasons. I mean it has been a while since the packers were in this situation as a matter of fact probably since Aaron Rodgers took over once Brett farve decided to Kinda SORTA walk away. I can't think of a season where the expectations were any lower for the packers than they were this year now when I say low I'm not sitting here trying to tell you that the packers are GonNa go foreign twelve and they're going to be in the running for the number one pick back in the draft. I'm not talking that low but with the Green Bay packers the mentality since Aaron Rodgers taken over has been championship or bust and they've been a super bowl caliber team for the last decade or so. I mean as matter of fact the packers have been for the last. I don't know six seven years. Maybe my pick to go to the super bowl in the N._F._C. Like I haven't moved off it. Member Chris Berman boomer all those years his super bowl prediction was 49ers bills like for. I don't know how many consecutive seasons well it's kind of like that with me with the packers. It was packers N._F._c. like forever but I can't go there this year. I've really can't go there. I mean I'd like to do and maybe this is going to be the year where they surprise us. All we're Aaron. Rodgers is going to stay healthy. We're all the new pieces Mesh together and who knows maybe Matt. LEFLORE IS GONNA look like a genius of a higher and maybe they did just need to change some things around and maybe the relationship between Rogers and Mike McCarthy Just wore thin and they had to just make a change for the sake of making a change but I'm not confident that's going to happen. I'm really and truly not and the more and more we get closer to the start of the season I find myself of questioning the hiring a matt leflore and whether or not it was the right move. I know that Matt Leflore spent a couple of years ago with McVeigh in the Rams and was part of a team in an offensive was really successful but last year Matt leflore moved on from the rams and he went to Tennessee to work with Marcus Mariota and the titans the rams went to the Super Bowl and still we're doing their thing on offense. Tennessee's offense was one of the worst in the national football league back and it's not like Marcus Mariota got any better he flatlined. If not maybe even took a step back so if we want to say the mantle floors of genius just because you know Sean mcvay and he had a cup of coffee with Sean mcvay once doesn't get blame and then for what didn't happen in Tennessee last year and by the way now you're going to tell him that he gets to work with as talented a player at that position that we've seen in generations. That's why all of this does not add up for me. When you're talking about the packers this year? I can't even sit here and tell you that they're going to be a definite playoff team. Forget about Super Bowl team member. You got the bears in that division. Who if they had a place kicker maybe would have done something even more specialties in her? Go you gotTA. Minnesota Vikings team who on paper looks the part of a team that should go to the playoffs. They better go to the playoffs. You're paying your quarterback enough. Money last year was an epic failure. You better turn things around and get it straightened out this year. So you're talking about a couple of teams. You might have to leapfrog in your own backyard before you're even talking about making noise throughout the rest of the conference but you know what this is when the great players bear down the great players they love being doubted. That's what makes them special right when the odds are stacked against them when nobody expects much from them that's when they go out theory and they surprise and they wow us and they serve one final reminder. That may be just may be. You shouldn't have doubted us. You shouldn't have forgot about us and we're going to do something special. What I'd be shocked shocked? The Green Bay packers have themselves phenomenal year. No no no. I can't now with that guy stills. The quarterback can but my confident that it's going to happen. That's a whole different story because you got a lot of teams in the N._F._C. This year which could make some noise for you and complicate things. You got a couple in the N._F._C. East we talked about he got a couple in the north with we just hit on. I mean the south. He got the saint to look like a super. Pro Bowl team. The Atlanta Falcons who I think will be better on paper are a good football team. Hey the Carolina Panthers last year a look like they were going to be part of that discussion at the midway point of the year before things completely bottom down on them and they went into a tailspin the rest of the the season now you've got Ron Rivera who's taken more of an assertive role on the defensive side of things saying you know what it's going to be my way or the highway here Cam Newton's working on a pitch count with shoulder and we're gonna see how he responds there but Carolina's got some talent and the N._F._C. West. You got the defending conference champs in the rams. He got a Seattle team which is always going to give you a hard sixty minutes no matter when they line up against you N._F._C.'s GonNa be deep this year. You got a lot of quality football teams and I think four or five of them can make an honest to goodness assessment that they indeed can go to a super bowl and represent the N._F._C.. I really truly believe that. Eighty eight say E._S._P._N.. Is Our telephone number eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six and that was straight talk wireless everything for less. It's only at Walmart. Dan Gross sitting in for Stephen here on this Friday on E._S._p._N.. A._P._N. radio and E._S._P._N.. News Josina Anderson are E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider is going to join me coming up in our next segment the man himself Steven A. is also going to give us a Holler a little bit later on you want to reach me on twitter. Feel free to do so at Dan Grassi G._R. A._C._A.. We'll get into the baseball matters. 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You'll into the Stephen a Smith Show podcast. We'll go back to and Grassi sitting in for Stephen Smith here on this Friday E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News in training camp is all the rage right now in the National Football League of course each and every eighteen already reported to camp but there are some notable holdouts with that we will get a little bit more INFO from our E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider it's Josina Anderson who's nice enough to join me on the program Josephine. It's Dan Gross. Thanks for joining me. How are you thank you for having me? I appreciate David. I'm well thank you and like I said unfortunately we have to talk about guys who aren't in camp instead of the guys who are there because there are some notable absences starting of course with America's team with the Dallas cowboys and Zeke Elliot who they're still waiting inform there in Oxnard. What's the latest well yeah? There's still waiting for him. As Ezekiel Elliott is trying to <hes> you know get a contract extension. He feels is commensurate with how he is as a playmaker and the Star Player <hes> for this team and while the cowboys try to assess what does that look like monetarily <hes> you know I had actually been traveling to <hes> Connecticut yesterday from Cleveland and I had gotten a call from a source that actually gave a positive update on <hes> where things stood with Ezekiel Elliott in terms of the contract talks source also text me this morning saying that you know the talks are continuing. <hes> you know the things that I heard heard yesterday were positive but as I said on my twitter page you know obviously something is not done until it's done and if you recall with the demarcus Lawrence contract with the cowboys that like an hour or a few hours before that got done their or reports that they were far apart and all these other things going on or what have you went that a few hours later it got done. It's those and I'm not saying that it's exactly apples to apples with Ezekiel Elliott but what I'm saying is sometimes even the smallest thing can hold you know something up so it really is just about figuring out what is that figure and when you consider the fact that Todd Gurley leaves the running back market now at average of fourteen point three seven five and you're looking at the last year production. End of Todd Gurley versus Ezekiel Elliot. How much more should he make? How much more do you make awesome? This is what we're getting ready to talk about and on N._F._l.. Live when Adrian Peterson nine years ago was making fourteen point three in two thousand eleven and Todd Gurley right now leaves the market just fourteen point three seven five and yet the cap and nine years has gone up by fifty percent you know so so so what is that what's the what's the fairness and then you consider how these backs are terms of contributing as also receivers lever which is the point that Levy on bell was trying to make last year so it'd be very interesting to see where they land and what that number is but if you but if you're just looking at you probably think that Ezekiel Elliott wants to be at least at fifteen but you would see that you brought up Todd Gurley too because granted rented he's making all that money and for a lot of years there was unquestioned production from him but now there's all this uncertainty about the knee. We knew that he wasn't right the second half of the season last year and they're still seems to be a lot of questions about how effective he's going to be moving forward given that plus the fact that Ezekiel Elliott has also had some off the field issues here that the cowboys have had to deal with. Do you think there's any sort of apprehension from that sense. When you combine the off the field plus the long term durability of a running back is that factoring into these discussions at all? I mean the the the one thing I think can be pointed to what happened that caused them to miss six games last year but the year before because obviously he was <hes> you know suspended but then on the other hand you look at that and you had the lead zone lead investigator saying. They didn't think that there was enough to even merit a suspension that being Kia Roberts but you know she's no longer part of the N._F._l.. So everything has to be weighed in context and then when you look at the video that Ezekiel Elliott was just involved in that were the <hes> the guard fell down a little bit flaw however people want to characterize and that's up to everyone individually assess on their own you know how much of that is a big deal or is it a big deal. You know he did visit with the Commissioner. The commissioner decided not to give him any discipline so that we bring that up is is it fair to bring it up. The League is not disciplining him about that and then when he did get disciplined but the lead themselves had people inside you know <hes> you know Park Avenue building saying they didn't think that it should be brought right and we can go back and forth whether we thought that amounted to whatever I'm just saying those are the things that you're discussing agent to team when you're trying to really assess how much is off the field and then you have to ask yourself as a team do I do do I think Ezekiel Elliott is valuable to my team or not does he produce and sometimes these things get played up more so because is it really what that was in terms of the magnitude of what you're talking about or are you using it then you're saying it to that magnitude because you want to use it against them to bring the numbers down and so that now so I I'm just trying to present both sides of how each side is probably looking at that and why it's so difficult but at the end of the day I feel you go back to <music> but black and white the part that's easy right. Do you need him and does he produce. You know what I'm saying easy easy answer that does he produced Prescott that to err. It is absolutely one hundred percent. We're talking. What you're seeing? Anderson are E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider here another guy that wants to get paid Michael Thomas of course for the New Orleans Saints He's holding out he's only slated to make it a little more than a million dollars found a year of his rookie deal. It's unquestioned the impact that he has for this football team for drew brees. Probably the best wide receiver drew brees has had in New Orleans here but the saints of monopoly known to open up the checkbook for skill position players but you figure they're going to have to break the mold here for Michael. Thomas Given got a forty plus year old quarterback back. You're going to go all in on to try to win the Super Bowl with well you know and again another interesting case right I mean he's slated to make one point one four eight million as his base salary which is crazy. I mean he had fourteen hundred yards last fear nine touchdowns everyone in New Orleans will argue that they should have been in the super bowl he had his you know make contributions to that and he feels <hes> you know there's been talk about whether Michael Thomas should be a twenty twenty million a year wide receiver now even though Dell lease the market at eighteen million a year over the five year extension he got what you have to also remember is that in the first three years of Odell deal he is averaging twenty a year in the first three years of that deal so then the question becomes you know should Michael Thomas Equate that portion of Odeal deal and or exceed that and clearly the saints don't feel so however what is a interesting pinpoint that they have to be mindful of is Michael. Thomas is just not your average pushover when it comes to these topics remember. He let go of his agent and I don't believe he's you know currently represented. This is a person that is very steadfast in feeling in how they feel about what their work kind of earl. Thomas and I'm sure some somebody else by just recently with Earl Thomas you have to also realize what type of guy you're dealing with. Some of these guys are more Alpha than other guys when it comes out they care their business on the field and how they thank you know think about what they're worth and their finances off the field and Michael. Thomas is not budging so it's like. How do you WANNA start this season? When you just made a great point that you're trying to be all in right I mean the quarterback who is aging and you view to wind down and you feel like you were rob last year? So what are you GonNa do absolutely and things like we bring it back down to the brass tacks and what is simple and what you know what you don't know what you need and what you don't need. did he produce yes almost four thousand in yards and three years twenty three touchdowns in three years. Was He critical to your the so it's just like sometimes it's just interesting what you know. Teams get caught up on whereas how you kind of see the N._B._A.. kind of treat their players in terms of you know giving then what they're worth even notice the league that generates less than the N._F._l.. Realized that they have less players in the N._F._l.. In terms of per roster but you know we can have a discussion as to whether sometimes these contract <hes> you know discussions with the N._F._l.. Stars in their league and their teams you get more drawn out more complicated than they need to be Josefina final thing here and we have a couple of minutes but Odell Beckham brought up him and clearly you had a very memorable sit down with him last year which sparked a whole lot of discussion and now. Of course he does the G. Q. Interview where he had some parting shots for the giants and it's funny because I guess the best way to put the question is do you think Odell is finally moved on despite what he says his he moved on internally from the whole giants episode and is that going get in the way of producing things for the Cleveland browns like they hope that he will play. That's you asked me that and let me say this unequivocally. Odell has moved on from the giant was just clear a couple of things that G. Q.. Article Michael that he did was back in May so when they released it at the time of the start of training camp right before he had already done that article if you look at their twitter page and the picture that they released in conjunction with that article he still had his blonde hair so that was done before and I think think right after yes it was right after I think mandatory camp or what have you so. Some of those things were still on his chest. They got it done before he did his press tour overseas in Monaco and with Nike. Did you know when you know having a little press before he goes overseas. You have to kind of keep those things in the context of guard to the timeline <hes> like I said on sportscenter this morning I have never seen Odell more at peace and happy as probably in comparison to the day that he signed his ninety million dollar contract with the giants he is in a position where he feels like he's around personnel who can actually help him to unleash the surface that he goes. He hasn't even scratched in its first four years in the N._F._l.. Because he was working with the quarterback and either all his words that can open up the passing game and the deep game in a way that he hasn't been able to really flourish in where he was before not in let alone that this roster on paper it star studded all over the place so yes he's happy because he loves football and this is an opportunity for him to flourish probably more so than what's going on with the giants team that is now lost. Two receivers. Stay have indeed Korey Coleman Sterling Shepherd and who knows who else if they keep dropping like this Anderson are e._s._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider thanks for a couple of minutes. You'll see an appreciate it as always totally have a good show great questions. Thank you thank you. Dan Grasses sitting in for Stephen a Smith too busy Friday here on E._S._p._N.. Radio and end E._S._P._N.. News guess what you're in the middle of the Stephen Smith Show podcast there Stephen Smith show here on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News Dan Grasses sitting in for Stephen Dated Eight say E._S._P._N.. Opinionated eight seven to nine three seven seven six Stephen a Smith show is brought to you by pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. Make the switch to pennzoil synthetics today and also let me remind you not just a remind mind but you may not even know this at all because it happened way way late last night even early this morning that Orioles outfielder Steve Wilkerson closed out a sixteen inning game on the mound and last night's game against the angels play resume is brought to you by indeed used by over three million in businesses for hiring you post a job today and indeed dot com slash hire a wacky game last night out there in Anaheim between the orioles end the angels a game that as we are as I told you there ended up going into the A wee hours they're sixteen innings at ended after four A._M.. Here on the east coast so after one A._M.. Their local time out there sixteen innings a game in which the Orioles took the lead in the fifteenth the angels came back tied in the bottom half of the fifteenth inning and then the Orioles would win it again there in the sixteenth but that's baseball and you know when you have a game that goes as long as that you have all the people coming out of the woodwork now saying that you got to shorten the Games you gotta come up with this new the new rule that's kind of been breached down there that maybe just maybe put a guy on second base to start the eleventh inning just to kind of facilitate things so you hope that the Games don't go as long as they did last night for example between the Orioles and the Angels Rob Manfred I love you if you're listening to me. Don't listen to those those people. Please just don't listen to them. I know that this is something that has been brought from your office. I understand that but baseball is baseball when you start tinkering with it like putting in these new mackin nations like get a guy on bass speed up the game. It doesn't become the game anymore okay. It's not baseball. We should come up with a new name for the sport. Maybe something go play with your friends in the school yard or something. This is Major League Baseball Games. Go Sixteen innings it goes sixteen innings. Make the best team win all right enough with trying to tinker occur with things that drives me crazy so I just need to get that off my chest more than anything else here because we had ourselves another late game last night between the OS and the angels. Let's get to the phone so we haven't had an opportunity to check in with the fans yet here and we'll start off with a sculling Nia long island who is on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News scully what's going on. Hey what's up then <hes>. I just wanted to say if the cowboys in Zeke don't reach an agreement by the beginning of the season. Do you think it'd be big for the cowboys to reach out to some pass running backs. It's like the Marco Murray Trend Richardson Lisi. No I mean you're not going to go after those. I mean Trent Richardson Trend Richardson. I mean how many how many more chances is a Trent Richardson these. I don't even know what turn Richardson is doing. These days was trend Richardson in the alliance. League of Football Bowl is in the X._F._l.. What is he doing? I mean DEMARCO. Murray is happily retired. Isn't he doing college football games on Fox. This is not a lengthy holdout between the cowboys and Zeke Elliott. There will will be an agreement. There will be a meeting of the minds here because both sides know that there is way way too much at stake to potentially run this thing into the ground. No Pun intended to Charlie in Louisiana Charlie. You're on Stephen Smith show. How are you hey? Let's do this thing with Michael Congress being meal. They don't even put on as until Monday so <hes> it'll be done by Monday. Somewhat everything's the local media saying they're not. They're lacing avera played repairs on for quite being beal and again then surely look. I understand that and I thank you for the phone. Call here and there is a lot of time before the season starts. I made that point way back earlier in the show here all right but this is not the saints way as I said they've never paid a skill position player more than ten million dollars to play football in a single season Michael. Thomas is going to command a heck of a lot more than that but they have to do it. It's a no brainer later. You've got a quarterback who's on the wrong side of forty. He is not going to be able to defy father time forever. You need to be able to surround them with as much talent and give him every last opportunity and your franchise opportunity to maximize the potential.

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"ESPN? Okay. Mason on the air. You're on the right now. This is how Tony Romo. Split gronk like you are just a Romo. Hateful. All right. So Romo was asked by Richard J choosing media columnist. How is it that you're able to predict plays that happened before they happen? He says what would I do if I was right there at the quarterback position from their analysed, the possibilities, and you do permutations of what could possibly come about. The next thing. Are you're looking at the linemen on defense. The coverage based stuff who is covering who matchups whether things are manner zone. It's hard to give you one thing because on a specific place so much can happen. For instance, you might have chargers defensive end Melvin Ingram lined up inside. And they're trying to get a match up on a guard. So I might want to circle that or I see rob gronkowski a safety one on one. He's just playing quarterback. I think he's I think this is proof that he's getting that feed in Zere. You aren't he's not getting a feed is years thing. Jared Goff can't actually get here. The plays in Tony Romo is getting plays other game. So in the Super Bowl. This Goss helmet goes out, again, we're going to -ssume that somebody rerouted the audio to Romo from Gough Thiru Romo, but that's an interesting. Little tidbit that Gough or Sean Mannion's helmet. Yeah. That's your series. There should be some sort of investigation. Well, the interesting thing is that man's helmet. Worked and goff's didn't doesn't that automatically indicate Jaffa Taj. Somebody. Because the mood around with Jared goff's helmet. They cut the red wire the blue wire they cut by our blue Rier. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like when when people were talking about loud. So I obviously I was and they report for ten years. Dell does the job is to do different arenas have a different level of sound? Yes. So I carried with me several amps they're they're about the size of a quarter. And you could change how loud the sound was coming into your ears. So in like, Oakland or Oklahoma City or Sacramento when they were good. I would use the big amp the that would give me a tons of sound the other ones I'd use a regular what were the tough arenas Sacramento, and they were good very loud Oklahoma City every year because it's the only pro team they have there and right now the warriors because they're great, right? Those of the three where I use the the the louder amp did you ever have to use it with the Lakers? No. But but that's that has something to do with. A out of the building. Right. Yeah. And a lot of gets right. No. I never have to do it at Staples. Staples is never known for being exceptionally loud. It's also Staples is very cavernous yet. No, people are working too hard to be cool right loud. Well, the the way you can tell is when they put t shirts on the back of chairs in these arenas like every fan puts them on except at Laker games. Like you look around. And I'll say, oh, that's kind of a cool t-shirt. He goes. Yeah. You know, everybody has them everybody. How come no one's wearing them? They don't they're wearing it. Worrying hundred dollar, Ed harmony, t- Shami, Chung, shoes and stuff. Yeah. So so it's different. Tommy Cheung Shuzo Goff. They could have. I know the Rams equipment staff could have given Gough a louder amp. I think somebody cut the wire, I think they're sabotage here. I that's the only imagine. That's the only explanation with acne. That make up for the bad call at the end of the game. If somebody did that if somebody if if they went code red, we'll cut the wire mind goff's, remember when was it is jersey that somebody told after a stall after Brady won the Super Bowl, and they were able to go back and figure out who did it, right? There are cameras everywhere in this day and age Steve big brother is always watching if someone cut that why we're nine out about I want to know we're gonna find out about here's Patrick and chino. Hey, Patrick here on ESPN LA. Hi, hey, Steven, John. It's been a long time that you got down down south. But hey, let alone. Did I ever think my ranch would come back to Los Angeles Leno within three years make it to the Super Bowl again and tell you what couple of things that I that, you know, the excitement beam so big out here, John you remember when the targes made it a Super Bowl what happened right after they went to the after they beat the Steelers. Well, I not only remember Patrick. I called my boss. I was a TV reporter in San Diego. And I was doing the show with Mason. And I called my boss. I said you better have somebody ready when these guys get back to the airport because what happened you guys went on the air. Yup. Open day opened up the stadium all the bands way data. Dato the stadium again seventy thousand people in the stadium. Can you imagine they would have done that last night when they lewd that when they are trying to find, and they know but see the Rams aren't there yet, Patrick like I mentioned earlier that they're rating was lower than the national rating. More people in other states watched the ram game than we Sandra. So I don't think there would have been seventy thousand people at the airport. I don't think they win it. This is what they needed they needed a Super Bowl run if they win it. They'll have it from now, my friend Susan down in New Orleans says that being a saints fan is a religion in New Orleans that it is that and the fact that they were awful for so many years is one of the reasons why it became like religion. We've got three years under our belt along with a bunch of years. Well, but old guys who were there before. Yeah. Exactly, exactly. But here, but here's the thing. Now, the the FOX made a an inaccurate cooled on the bottom of the screen when they said about the the Ran's being the first NFC team to win and away game to go to the to go to the Super Bowl, and that's not accurate. The Rams did in nineteen seventy nine when they had to go to Tampa and B can't hone. Yeah. The Cowboys DeKalb boys. Did it in San Francisco? It's happened for. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know who gave you that. All right, Patrick. Thank you. Thank you. Call by the way, Michael Pearson who produces are afternoon show was at the Martin Luther King parade today. And he's commend wearing geeky. Looks very good which apparently. Download would you to the point of you couldn't finish your thought? Saying something that seen one before. I know I've seen one. Of course, I've seen one. I just I've never seen one on Michael Pearson and which trying to figure out today. Yes, it is a it is great, man. I just. Don't say it Mike Dino with a grand marshal the MLK brave. Let's this your Mace. I think I'm cheating. But I think it was Dave, rob. Yes seen him. And I said next year next year we're going to win it always said no this year. I saw that on your Instagram. Yes, man. So was at the Milquet parades. Where's the k per well, they have different ones Inglewood might have their own. I know maybe Compton might have their own different cities have their own. You go. I was at the L A one. Yes. That was mainly off of king boulevard between western and like Crenshaw boulevard. Okay. So over near the Coliseum Marte park and by cut about a calcium. Yep. Yeah. That's over by where your old theaters were. Yeah. Exactly. Now are telling me about the shaky. I just describe what her does she use to people. Comes from the African heritage and in mainly from African descent, and it's you know, that's pretty pretty much where it comes from. So. People who are nothing about African American culture. It's pretty much what everybody was wearing at the beginning. And the end of coming to America. Yes. Yes. There you go. There you go. Yeah. It's a good look into Sheikh ox wanna Rams color one in a USC color one. Because I like to do you have I have a couple. This is one I have that. I really liked them at other times rarely do. I really do I read, but I will wear Rams. I would wear Rams color when like like the say the dodger blue and gold that garnered bloom Graham gear. I would wear that game USC color once again, it's good looking good looking tribal baby. And you're still you're still rocking the AFC. Yeah. I would I wonder where all my Rams gear today. But I was like I have a lot of time. I'm just I'm really upset with these saints haters out there anybody that they just sounds like they really hate the Rams that they're vanishing. Well, no, they hate the fact that got screwed by the refs they got screw by the reps. But how long have we been in this and been around sports? Never let the refs decide your destiny. It should have been that close and guess what? At at overtime zero zero buddy at zero zero for All Saints got the ball for tennis at their house. Yup. We're playing when referee crew that we're Owen eight with a good thing. They let us play physical. Yes. Amen. I'm with Michael Pearson. Yeah. And by the way. Waiting this? With Michael the Martin Luther King. I have a dream speech greatest speech in American history. Is there better one? No, I throw it some I think there's some you can throw into the conversation. But at the end of the day, I think it's number one. I I actually through a couple of Reagan's out there. I think Reagan I've turned on this wall. We'll play it for you coming back. Yeah. And if you've never heard it, I think it's the best speech in American history. So we'll get we had that coming up. It is Martin Luther King day. So, you know, take Michael obviously took a moment at the at the parade. Remember what this day is about? It's not just a day off Mason and Ireland ESPN. Yeah. Michael pearson? Disappointed another aspect to then came Michael Thomas went off the first time, they played in this particular case, keep to leave made a huge difference on Michael Thomas and Kishan is wrong about that. I you know, I'd I'd want in the morning show during the week. I said key is their way to take Michael Thomas out of the game. And he said nice to good. They'll find ways to get him the ball. So I don't know not that not that Keyshawn has any routing in nephew. But but Michael Thomas can't catch the ball himself. Throw it to him. Yeah. So somewhere that process broke down. Either drew Brees thought he was too well covered or Sean Payton didn't throw him the ball. And that's another reason why the Rams won the game is they they bottled Michael Thomas up who had killed them in week nine. And it killed the eagles the week before. Yep. All right. So it is Martin Luther King day. And we try to do this every year. You know, the the great civil rights leader in America really did change the the world as we know it was part of the push for the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, all in the mid sixties and was tragically assassinated in nineteen sixty eight. But before that he delivered the most stirring speech in American history. Yeah, we were thinking about it. And we we think this is number one. If you were making the list of greatest speeches ever in American history. This is number one. Here is Dr Martin Luther King. One day. Name you will rise up. Live out the true, meaning of the pre. We hold is Jews to be self evident that all men are created. I agree. The label. Be able to sit down together at the papal of brotherhood. I have a dream. One of the names on the weather loved by map. Map again. But by come to that character. Hi. Every. Every mouth he'll be made. Would be made played and the criminal played will be made. That's portion of the IVA dream speech delivered in nineteen sixty three at the March on Washington at the Lincoln Memorial. Interesting story about that. So George Raveling kneeled USC basketball coach was a player in the Washington DC area and somebody came to his school. He's a college player, and it can't remember if he went to GW or American University camera which one, but so Raveling was at his school and somebody came by and said, hey, we need some for lack of a better term muscle. We need some big tall guys to stand behind Dr king. So if anyone gets a crazy idea of rushing, the podium, they know that there'd be big guys that they'd have to get through. So the coach of the basketball team said sure I got a couple of guys in one of them was Raveling. So if you watch that speech, you'll see a young George Raveling standing one of the people standing behind Dr king. So the speed. Ends. And Dr king says, you know, free at last free blasts got almighty free at last and walks away from the podium and Raveling notices that the text of the speech is still there. And he's he grabs it, and he says, Dr king, you forgot your speech. He goes go ahead and keep it George. I don't need it. And to this day. You're traveling has it. Well, now, the amazing thing is we have Ravin the show a lot. And he says that the text of the speech is not what you would think. It's not like today. Everybody would put that in a prompter. Right. It was guidelines nuts. I think George said that a lot of I have a dream on the note that he just, you know, took the notes that it was bullet points of what he wanted to mention, and he just winged it and George still hasn't. He's been the Smithsonian been after a lot of people have asked if he'd be willing to sell it. And he's always said, no, he's hanging onto it. And he says when he passes wail handed down to his family, which is kind of a cool that is backwards. Right. All right. So you're going to get into coming up. The ringer which I read every day. Has just written a story. Here's the headline Todd Gurley. The reigning offensive player of the year was out snapped. And outplayed by C J Anderson in Sunday's championship game. He says it wasn't his health. So what happened? We'll get into it next or some theories here that are interesting Mason and Ireland Rams on their win. Is. I hope so Super Bowl we're thirteen days away. I can tell you that. Although the station is not really. Divvying up any cash for me to go to the game. I'm find your way. Yeah. And one and I will be in that stadium for the Super Bowl. I'll do the show from Atlanta Monday after the game. And I think the morning show because they get all of the preferential treatment they will be at the Super Bowl. Really? So you're gonna send them they're going to send them and be there, and you pay your own way. Exactly. Okay. That's how it was. So righted girly Todd Gurley yesterday only get four carries. Yeah. Girlie told Lindsey theory who covers the Rams for us after the game that. It was not his health. Girly insists that he I want to get this exact, quote, he gave the Lindsay 'cause it's pretty good. He goes he said, I was sorry as hell today. I was sorry. So CJ did his thing the whole team did its thing. Now, I think most rampants don't want to believe that Sean McVay would ever bench Todd Gurley. Even if he was playing sorry. He's considered by some to be the best running back early. He has a captain see on his chest yet. He had twenty all purpose touchdowns this year. He did not play in the third quarter. And while C J Anderson was running the ball Gurley was on the sidelines on an exercise bike. So everyone is assuming that there's an injury that the Rams aren't talking about the girlies not talking about. But after the game Josina Anderson caught up with girly. And I think she got him in a moment where he was being completely honest. He's being very religious. She asked him. Directly about it. Here's girly, right? After the game. You got to put it into the where it's how does it feel to be going to the Super Bowl? God is good. God is good. I love my teammates. You know? We we saw you know, they all encourage me all game. You know, you know, when I had the mistakes that was all of my ear, and I really really loved his team. You know coaches everybody. It was unbelievable is unbelievable. It seems like you're almost two near tears. What is in your heart right now? Of the day. A lot of games so much of Madrid. It is all my life for us to be able to be in this position to mega to the Super Bowl. Oh, so it's such a great seven such good till you. Until now you didn't play in the third quarter. You came back into port where you heard what happened. No, I didn't play good in is there to be CJ within their. He did his thing. Everybody helped me down. We all helped each other. And we just we just got it done. We just got it done. Thank you, Lou. Thank you. Thank you. Lastly, what did the rand prove to the world which is going to the Super Bowl? We got one more thing to do. And that's just to win one more again. Thank you. All right. So it seems like he's being pretty honest there on the day rush for ten yards and a touchdown in four carries and caught one pass for three yards. His five touches from scrimmage where career low as whereas thirteen total yards the thirty two snaps girly played where the fewest in a game since his rookie year as well. As the fewest of any Rams offensive player that took the field Sunday. Yep. Steve you seen every ram game. What do you think happened with Todd Gurley? I know he acknowledged there that there was that he basically got benched he all but acknowledged that right, right? I still think there's an injury thing. I still think he's not right. I have a theory. Tell me if you think it holds water. Last year. Phero Cooper made an absolute critical turnover in the in the game loss against them. And that's why I'm going go McVeigh stuck with them. Right. Said. Hey, don't worry about it hanging there. Let's get them. Nick. Then Cooper did it again. Yup. And they lost the game and turnovers are just absolutely critical season. So girly early in the game had a pass go right through. I mean, all Sean Jeffrey right through his hand. Yes. I write that. And the saints ended up with an interception. Fortunately for the Rams their defense held the saints to a field goal then. Right after that on a critical third and six golf put a pass right in girlies hands. And he dropped it killed the drive is it possible that McVeigh looked at it and went oh God, he's checked out. Why we can't risk him? We can't risk him turn into nominate. Let me throw something back at you. So you weren't here last week when Sean. Mcvay was on the show. And I asked him what percentage healthy is Todd Gurley and Shaw McVeigh's answer was you'd have to ask tot. So in other words, he knew he was if he was one hundred zero healthy he would've said he would have said, he's good. He's good to go. Right. What percentage you'd have to ask tot? That's still suggests to me that something's not quite right. I mean, those who were there people that were on the sidelines at Gurley was applying heat to its knee. And he was riding the bike a lot especially in the second half. So I think you your theory that there is some type of an injury there might be right? And by the way, in the end, I mean, C J Anderson. You know, I think he had forty four yards Todd Gurley had twelve I mean, it was a day for Jared Goff is a great way or and and flip it to the saints. They didn't run the ball. Yeah. No. They just one of those days where you're going to win it through the air. Why pulled up who do you think the five according to pro football, focus? I've got the five most valuable defensive players yesterday the five most valuable shot. All right. Well, they know on a scale. On a scale, Lord or one of them has to be in dummy. Consumer Dhamma get sue is number three eighty graded out eighty three out of one hundred football focus, just because he always is there. I'll say Aaron Don Aaron Donald graded out at ninety five point two number one number one. Okay. Because Michael Thomas did nothing is a keep to leave on their keep Toledo's number five seventy seven point one out of one hundred just because he made the biggest play of the game is John Johnson on the Johnson's number. Are you really good at this game? John johnson. Number two, eighty four point two. You're missing one guy. He made a fantastic play at the end of the game. Okay. Well, it can't be Joyner because he screwed that thing up. Made a fantastic play at the end of the game at the very end of vents of player defensive player. Tasks won the game. It do they cancer line. It's a defensive Nicole Roby Coleman. Oh my gosh. Why wouldn't have got that? Right. It out at nine point one. But of course, he gets credit for past defense on that very last play. Right. So that that certainly helped him. But yeah, I thought it interesting that keep ta- leave is there and John Johnson the third is there. Those guys have a great gaze is definitely one of the reasons why Michael Thomas didn't have a great game yesterday. Let's do. Okay. Let's do offense the players since we're at five offensive players for the ranch yesterday. One has to be Goff. Jared Goff is number three seventy three point three on a scale of one hundred. I thought Brandin cooks was excellent. I'll I'll say he's in Brandin cooks is number four. Okay. Now do linemen count because the Rams line was great. Are there? Any linemen in the group. Yes, there are well, then take your pick put any of the linemen in there. All all say linemen, plural. Andrew Whitworth is their top graded offense played eighty one point five. And then I is there. Another skill position player on their two more scope position players, Gerald Everett had some huge Harold average sixty nine point four. On more and he's become one of Jared goff's favorite targets. Oh, tyler. He no not higby. The other the other favorite target. And what we'll watch Reynolds. Oh, yeah. Our Woodson do write it out at at a seventy. So those are at least cornering pro football, focus. I'm always amazed at this principle focus watches every single game in grades every single player in every single game. And release these numbers. It's a subscription thing that I subscribe to, but it's really valuable. It's a great way to know like who's playing really well and who's not playing really well. All right. So let me throw this into the mix and then we're going to do fast track. But we have a lot of ram Steph fasttrack. So we're not forgetting about the ramps on Peter King the great football writer. Yes, he's on social media right now doing in a campaign. He got a question here. It is. Is there a snowball's chance in hell that the NFL admits they were wrong in allowing the chargers to leave San Diego and gets them back down south. Here's kings answer. I don't see it. But it's hard to predict the future. They certainly aren't setting L A on fire, but dean Spanos tells me they're playing the long game will see entries of fact that this is even being discussed is fascinating to me because I think yesterday was checkmate in for the hearts and minds of LA a week after the chargers don't show up for a playoff game in New England. The Rams make it to the Super Bowl. If you're somebody looking for a team and your new NFL fan, or if you're a kid or jump just jumping on you know, much Rams merchandise is going to sell this week in LA and nobody's buying charger stuff. No. So. You know, I would like to think people say you don't make AFC wildcard shirts yet. I would like to say that, you know, people always say you can never go back. I've never believed that Phil Jackson got fired up by the Lakers came back and let them to two more titles. I really think you can always push Humpty Dumpty back together. The the new stadium in San Diego all would be forgiven. You totally agree with fasttrack coming up at first. Let me talk to you about my buddy, Matt Unger. You know him as the man from Lexus Santa Monica. Great dealership. Great people. Always there to help you. Now. Matt has added Toyota's Santa Monica, and he's the new GM there. So he has to dealerships. Now, he took all the Lexus skills and deals down the street to trae otas, Santa Monica, and he's running both places. First thing that did was add valley parking to make it easier to get in and out. Everybody knows how hard that can be in Santa Monica. Then Matt got his team busy to make the best guest experience for you customer service. This is where under makes the difference. He. He is the best car guy. No Mason, and I've been in business forever. We've seen a lot of car guides. Some are great summer a little sleazy. Matt is top of the list, but he's had a bad car buying experience. You just never get that. If you deal with Matt Unger goes zoo fleas now at two dealerships, Lexus, Santa Monica, and Toyota, Santa Monica pick up a card from both places. Toyota's Santa Monica and Lexa Santa Monica, proud members of the L A car guy family of dealerships fasttrack next ESPN, LA breaking news. All right time for fast brush by Rex Rex dedicated helping homeowners save using game changing technology a full service experience. No middleman, Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started an unlock your savings. Visit Rex homes dot com. All right. John one side of the coin, let's let's put the Golden State Warriors on the other side of the coin. Let's put the injury ravaged Los Angeles Lakers tonight at Staples Center. Call it in the air. Well, of course, the Lakers beat him one twenty seven to one zero one at Golden State. They won't beat them by twenty six tonight, but they will win Lakers by three. We got the Lakers. You going to have to make a pilgrimage to a Saint for American for that. Now, the Rams are in the coverage. Workout right? All right mates. There are two hundred and twenty six former major league baseball players in the hall of fame, and they have one thing in common. Not a single one has arrived to Cooperstown as a unanimous selection. Babe Ruth, not Hank Aaron not Willie Mays not even Ted Williams or STAN Musial, Roberto Clementi. So Mark Townsend from Yahoo is asking this question will Mariano Rivera be the first ever unanimous choice. The closest we've come to a unanimous hall of Famer was Ken Griffey junior. In twenty sixteen junior was named on four hundred thirty seven of four hundred forty ballots that were cast hall of fame class gets announced. Tomorrow Rivera was named on one hundred percent of the one hundred and eighty five nomination ballots. So the nomination ballots. Everybody said, of course, he should be nominee will any of these ole school. Will baseball cranks? Keep Mariano Rivera from being unanimous. What do you think? Well. Let's say there's four hundred forty ballots, right? He's got to get all four forty even Kim by it's just in your top ten yet. If you just have to be named in the top ten on your Bali has to be the year right there. There are first of all I think the the voting body has gotten younger, right, right? So maybe there's so many other who like believes save should not be a thing. I want their name. I want to know who doesn't vote for Mario. I'm going to happen. You think it's gonna be unanimous? I mean, thanks because in this day and age to come out. Right. And I don't know who could possibly justify not voting. Yeah. For myron. We're I think this national travesty ends this year. I hope so Greg you say, no, I think no, I think one guy will do this just because it's like, you said names come out. So their name will be out they'll go. Yeah. Like Fred Hickman that one year didn't vote for shack for MVP. And he was the only one right? He they want their want to go on the radio show their fifteen minutes of fame. You might be right. All right. Let's see football's got a new threat. It's insurance new article by Steve fenra and Mark fan or Awada from the NFL directly facing stark new threat and evaluating insurance market that is fundamentally altering the economics of the sport squeezing and even killing off programs faced with higher costs. The NFL no longer has a general liability insurance covering a head trauma caused you to multiple surface. Sources just one carrier is willing to provide workers comp right now. Pop Warner little scholars which oversees two hundred and twenty five thousand youth players forced to switch insurers. John butler. Pop. Warner's executive director says quote, people say football will never go away. But if we can't get insurance it will will insurance be the end of football. No. Because insurance basically is a hedge fund game, you can get insured for. Almost anything at Lloyd's of London, David Lee. Roth the old lead singer van Halen had paternity insurance words, he paid Lloyd's of London. And if he got a girl pregnant, and she said, you're the father of my baby Lloyd's of London had to pay the paternal paid some outrageous some for like two million a year. So you could football can get out may cost them. Well, they could so much money that it becomes not cost fake could simply say, we're not ensuring against head Trump right and make wave and if you're a pop Warner league, how do you get insurance for kids ages have kids sign off their right? That's what they're going to have to do. They're going to sign a disclaimer that has nothing to do with my hand and being kids will ever say, no, I won't play football. Now. What's interesting about this is there? There becomes an bring this up on Martin Luther King day. They there becomes a racial component to this. Seventy percent of the NFL is black and. The inner city kids who are mostly being recruited by the Alabama's and the US the Florida's. So at some point is it morally conscionable to allow young black kids to sign away their rights, while young white kids played lacrosse and don't get hurt. So that's a national debate to. Yes, it is. But I can't see your questions. So I don't duck it. No. I don't think insurance will be the end of football because I think kids even fifty years from now we'll still sign away. The right. I think I do think pop Warner should stop playing tackle football that I think is made flag big issue is that when kids start young, you know, every one of those concussions and micro concussions are happening. I think there shouldn't be tackled football until kids get to high school. I don't I would support your plan. Their support the Mason plan there. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles, all the all the Mason plants, by the way, or genius. That is not true. This is from Brady McCulloch at the L A times. Undescended first of this year for the first time since nineteen sixty eight when USC's men's basketball team, hosted Nevada. Yeah. There were no song girls at the Galen center on Saturday afternoon. When USC UCLA the song girls were not there all of this. Despite a persistent outcry by song alumni athletic donors, and parents of the current song girls who can't fathom why USC would take away opportunities for students to do something they love, but Lynn Swann has done. Just that in a press release swan is now telling anybody who asked that quote game management concerns time constraints and space issues are to blame and the song girls. Still don't think they've gotten an adequate explanation of why they've been told not to go to the basketball games part of me thinks that it's UNC basketball. And nobody goes to these games. Anyway. But another part of me thinks what event is not better by having the USC song girls, if it's anything if it's a swim. Meet so you understand what US's doing no cannot. And by the way, I think the US marching band plays the national anthem at at home games now in full disclosure. There is a USC dance team that plays to canned music, the song girls only to the band. Right. So the bands already there, but the song girls. The song girls are a great traditions. Mike just came tumbling to the to the growth. My the song girls are great tradition. I don't understand not having the song girls. Great. What am I missing here? White. What would be the reason to ban the song girls from USC basketball game? I can't think of one thing why it doesn't make any sense. They should be. They're always there UCLA has all their dance team. And in the song, and the USC son girls are famous for the brand. Yeah. I mean for the the skirts in the big USC across their chest. And they're all super good looking. Now, do you think it has anything to do with the me too era? I, you know, if you're not getting rid of them at the football games. Yeah. Why not have met vast line on the basketball game? So I think if it was something to do with. You know, women being treated ornamental, e or whatever then you don't want to celebrate that and you don't want to have the dance team. Right. But the other dance team and the song girls. They've if somebody knows let us know. Yeah. Twitter at Venice maze at LA Ireland. I cannot think of one reason why is doing this. Fouls. Chide comedy is in a period of extraordinary flux past two years of witness the reputations of revere comics such as Louis K as these Zaari implode in the metoo allegations. Stand up sir being held to account for problematic jokes. They've made online. Kevin Hart is nicks example that Michelle wolf did the White House correspondents dinner in two thousand eighteen it was received so badly that they this year. There will be no comedian right doing the correspondents' dinner. Is stand up comedy dead. Well, there's been a rise in political correctness that is hard to control. Here's my thought on this whole stand up comedy thing. There is no one putting a gun to your head to go. Listen to any particular comedian if you are offended by Louis C K, you don't have to follow them until she'll media. You don't have to watch performances the market will dictate whether or not his comedy will work or not. And I think that there is I thought the way that Kevin Hart was treated for something that happened ten years ago was a really bad warning sign for any comedian who accepts one of these gigs. Because now if you accept a gig to host, the Oscars host the Emmy's people are going to comb through your social media grants from ten years ago to see if you did anything offensive and times chain, but in furnace all Kevin Hart had to do was apologize right away. Great have been fun. He chose not to apologize. Yeah. But I thought he did after a while he did while. But you do it to me if we're laying at a no host Oscars. We we are nobody nobody wants to jump right because we've made it impossible. And you know, what here's the thing through the seventies. There were no host for the Oscars. Johnny Carson did some and a lot of them were no host Oscars. I don't think it's necessarily gonna make a difference in the show a little short ticket back to your original question. It's stand up comedy dead at least. And I went to a stand up night where it was anything offensive tons of stuff, but we're just not easily offended and the so we chose to go spend the night there. And listen to these guys some of the stuff, I laughed at some of this stuff. I didn't. But I'm I just don't understand. I think Louis C K. Should be able to do whatever he wants. And it's up to me whether or not I think, it's funny. And if I don't think it's funny. I don't have to pay is an extreme example because of sample because of your question because no. But he's not it's not because of what he said that he's in trouble. He is not what he's done. Well, and also he's not like he's getting now because apparently he told jokes about the power going parkland kids. I mean, I heard that routine. It's awfully which I can't imagine that anybody would find that funny. The punchline of that joke was people booed when he did the joke about the parkland kids, right? And he said don't Bumi my career's over anyway. Yeah. So I mean, he knows that he's down in flame. Right. My thought on that is let comedians do what they do. And then the market you, and I and everybody else will decide whether or not it works. Louis C K as already come to the conclusion that he's been phased out on the Mark. Well, here's the thing that comics are going to be. On right. We'll ever comics like smart comics, people like John appetite things. John Mullany made an appearance on Davidson, John Mullany is just more clever. He's smarter. Jerry Seinfeld is a frigging genius Dylan. I went to to Jerry Seinfeld concert in San Antonio a couple years ago. We watched him do ninety minutes without a bad word. You put it on the Disney channel just be really really good to be a comic nowadays. Yeah. And but I think that I'm in favor of leading comics push the limits, and then letting us decide whether or not it works. I don't want to put a muzzle on anybody. And I don't I don't either I don't either. But people have to realize that you've got to be better. You've got to be better. Probably. All right coming up next more fast track. We're back in two minutes. Mason and Ireland ESPN LA.

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OBI: Monday Bengals/NFL News Jump (5/10)

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OBI: Monday Bengals/NFL News Jump (5/10)

"What's up everybody happy monday. It's anthony costanza with the orange. Black insider bengals podcast. Coming at you for the bengals. Nfl week start news jump. We've got a lot going on a lot to share kinda like usual but You wouldn't really expect so much going on with the draft in the rear view mirror the schedule releases coming out this week. So i'm sure there's going to be more to talk about with that but we've got a whole bunch more to talk about and i'm seeing a lot of what's going on in a great day for the great by by doug mcmanamon mar youtube channel. The say anthony wanna say thank you to you. John for keeping the bengals fandom informed look forward to you every week appreciate that saginaw. I appreciate all of you. That you tune in live today show or wednesday deep dive. Show the list of questions live that we do a couple of times a month. Whatever it is on this program all the programs on the orange black insider appreciate all the support that you continue to show us. Can't thank you enough. Appreciate all of you guys and gals out there. Who tune in. Let's get to a lot of a lot of different stuff here. We've got lots of to. And like i mentioned. We're i'm going to share my screen for those of you. Who are new. We call this the water cooler chat because not a lot of us are in offices wasn't going back i guess but not everybody's in a true office setting quite at this at this moment in time and so we get to kind of come together and talk angles. Football tacos went onto division. Talk about the rest of the nfl and some of the news and notes as You know as you would in an office setting with your colleagues. Your co workers your friends all that good stuff. So let's get to a bunch of different stuff we're gonna started off. We're going to go a lot. We're going to do a lot of stuff on since your dot com and in terms of what i'm sharing on the screen but we're going to go all over the place we've got a lot of different news. Pieces to share them or and credit is many great people and contributors out there as possible. Let's go to something. That kind of broke a little bit on monday. And a bit of interesting news in terms of the cincinnati bengals and how they may want to round out the rest of their receiving corps and the offense they are showing interest following the nfl draft in dede westbrook a fast and productive wide receiver. Really was kind of a little bit of a victim of some poor jacksonville teams that he was a part of but You see the tweet by josina anderson. This is on since jungle dot com over the weekend some chiefs players reached out to free agent wide receiver. Dede westbrook who to gauge his interest in coming to cincinnati meanwhile both vikings and the bengals have had preliminary conversations with westbrook as. Well you is. The two thousand sixteen Award winner in college was a rookie in twenty. Seventeen he did have if you look here. He did have an acl injury last season. And he had one hundred one receptions in sixty six receptions and twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen so a guy that could come in and kind of be a a niche player in the bengals offense me. He'd probably be wide receiver four wide receiver five In a group of six. That's you know if they bring him in all of a sudden becoming a very crowded group you wanna probably hang on. If you're the bengals to stanley morgan or special teams purposes. You probably also want to hang on to You obviously auden tate and others in that group that you did lose three in free agency from that position. Groups of the bengals are looking to round that group out potentially with dede westbrook. They kind of had some some interest. Kenny golladay that didn't really materialize in anything. That was not so the bangles. Now we're looking at kind of plan. B options as they only went with one through wide receiver in the nfl draft. Jomar chase but they could be looking at backup slot options that sort of thing they bring in riley's interesting undrafted. Free agent a and intriguing guy. Who can do a lot of different things. Maybe help you out on special teams and in the slot. We'll see what happens there. Maybe he could be the next undrafted guy that makes the bengals roster seems to kind of be a yearly tradition wherein one of those guys kinda surprises folks sneaks on to the team. So we'll see what happens here but the bengals indeed interested at least to some degree. Indeedy westbrook a former wide receiver of the jacksonville jaguars. Let's keep moving on here. Sharing some different things get to see. Everybody has seen a lot of what's up everybody No logan see well. Moving on to this is kind of important as well. In terms of news. The full schedule of bengals offseason programs have been released. This is courtesy of my usual coast. John sheeran since he jungled dot com. So you can see here. This article is up on there. But here is the offseason program. You've got rookie minicamp opening this week. So dramatic chase. Jackson karma and joseph and the rest of the group is set to come here a little bit later in the week Sold the bengals need to get acclimated to all of those as well and then of course you've got. Ota's on the twenty fifth through the twenty seven june first through the third and then of course you've got it june seventh through the tenth and then many mandatory minicamp fifteen through seventeenth of june. And of course it's scroll down here I guess sort of it at this point in time so bengals are got got their hands full with the practice schedule and what they will be doing. Obviously we'll be keeping a close eye on what's happening later this week. Hopefully hopefully hopefully hopefully fingers crossed no injuries. No issues with that. We want no part of that with this particularly with this class. Which i think a lot of people are myself. Included are believing will be very very critical to the team's success this year and will probably need to play. Some of these guys will need to play big roles pretty earlier. So that's something that the cincinnati bengals will obviously be watching but that is kind of what we're looking at over the next couple of months in terms of offseason programs going forward and what the bengals will be engaging over the next couple of months and then of course we've got training camp hopefully with everything kind of you know the the vaccine and all kinds of different stuff. Hopefully were now talking about a true type of training camp. Preseason obviously preseason lessened with regular season game being approved the additional regular season game being approved. Now you know there seems to be more of a true training camp a little bit more of a true preseason. That's gonna be on tap for for the bengals and the rest of the nfl which is a good thing. You gotta like that. so everybody. I'm seeing more lows and all that good to see everybody all the live chats with your joining us on cincy jungles facebook page on the orange and black insiders twitter account since he jungles twitter account or our youtube gentle. Be sure to subscribe. Not only to the orange and black insider. Youtube generally Somewhere around here you can click in subscribe It's a quick that subscribe to our youtube channel. And then also be sure to subscribe to the cincy jungle podcast on your favorite audio streamer. So you can get notified from both platforms when new episodes are available when we're going live like good stuff so you gotta like that since facebook pages well twitter account so you get notified there to the federal way to watch but did have all with us. Let's keep rolling here if you guys are willing to hang out with me and Go into some more news this one. Let's see where we're going next. Okay more roster news. And i guess this may have been expected based on what the bengals have done in the nfl draft and in free agency but this was on twitter from d. c. management a sports management A twitter account christian covington is now signed with the los angeles chargers. San diego chargers. The he is now a charger. A guy who was brought in four depth last year and really came in and played a significant role the bengals traded for him and Made a made a move for him and he came in and you know was originally thought to be rotational. Dying came in and played a significant number of snaps with the team He has moved onto the charters with the bengals. Investing in malarial jobe tyler. Shelve in getting josh. Taku back and mike resigning mike daniels. There just didn't seem to be a lot of room for covington who was a one year. Stopgap kind of option for the bengals but they went that route in. The chargers are now Are are now the team of christian covington so that was something they kind of came by over. The news wire somewhat recently as well. Let's talk more about what we will be seeing this week from. Cincinnati bengals in the rookie. Minicamp they have a couple of invite teas bit. They didn't sign as ucf f. as but they're inviting them in quarterback eric dungy and wider wide receiver. Jimmy robinson i saw someone else in one of the live talking about jimmy robinson but these are two guys who are coming in and getting get a shot of some kind On may fourteenth dungy was out syracuse. He's a quarterback there and Bethune cookman receiver. jimmy robinson Could peak the bengals interest as well So the the question becomes what how comfortable. The bangles are backup quarterback behind joe burrow. They they liked what they saw. Last year You know and and they moved on from ryan family. But they're looking for more depth than so obviously they're. They're kind of kicking some tires on some some players. Here you've got jimmy robinson who he had fifteen hundred twelve all purpose yards in twenty eighteen. He's he's very quick and he is very shifty. A four point two eight forty yard dash has robinson been clocked out. So you know that can be one of those guys to that. All of a sudden with aid. I mentioned where it looks like. We're now going to have at least something akin to a normal training camping. Normal preseason and these are the types of guys that benefit for that a jimmy robinson. A guy like jaquez was patrick running back. We spoke about him on last wednesday show. Who is you know. utsa last year didn't get a chance to really play. He's still on the bengals roster. Now the bengals brought in two other running backs. Google williams and chris evans in in this year's rookie cross that they brought in. So now you've got guys like patrick guys like robinson who are looking to really show up and play. Well whatever snaps they may get in the preseason training camp in minicamp invite so You know these are. These are the guys that they could impress. And that's what these these spring and summer workouts are really or for some of these guys get Give him a shot in mala and see exactly what How they can contribute to the bengals and we'll see what happens there. I am pretty intrigued by jimmy robinson. Someone had asked. I couldn't see who was limit alive. Jots there by someone asks him in. Yeah pretty intriguing in terms of skill set and all kinds of different stuff there. But we'll we'll see you know again if it could become a tougher hill to climb if the bengals do indeed signed dede westbrook which we talk about a couple of minutes. Go to so Hey dep is good. Competition is good. We've seen this team be ravaging a number of different areas by injury over the past couple of seasons so they need to get some depth. They need to be able to overcome injuries. God forbid if they happen to important players once again and it looks like they're putting themselves in position to do so so good on the bengals. Let's keep talking about these goals. And of course. This is big training camp news. This is courtesy of tyler. Dragon and company over at the cincinnati enquirer. Trae hopkins left. Knee is doing well after season surgery. we kind of heard some rumblings about that but this is another update that was provided as of monday. So he you know again. This is kind of a big quietly a big thing. Everybody's rightfully focusing on joe burrow's injury you've also got jus allah coming back from a big injury and now you've got trade hopkins who You know last game season He he tore his acl. so now. that's a. That's something to kind of monitor your fight. It says according to hopkins in this is again from cincinnati enquirer. My knee is doing well. I've been blessed to have a pretty sleuth run. It feels good. Everything i've been asked to do hasn't been an issue quote. I try and look at it like work. All i know how to do is work anyway. Just more work. I go in there and do what's asked me. I run on it and push as a hand so far my rear it's worked for me and that's what i'm hoping gets me through this thing. Go check out that article and since The cincinnati enquirer from tyler dragon and company. They great work over there. The here's here's the thing i worry about. You know a a bigger guy like that you know. Obviously there's a little bit more beneath gotta bear more weight. That's just kind. Of course the position he plays. There's rusting in all kinds of different movements. That is necessary. And you gotta have that knee back at full strength. I will say this that when it occurred worried me and obviously the the fact that he's a larger guy just in general worries me in terms of time line of return. But if you know anything about trae hawkins and if you look at his career arc to with With the cincinnati bengals. If you doubt this kid you will be proven wrong. The guy was drafted free agent. He's battled injuries battled injuries. Battled injuries battle being buried on the depth chart on and off the active roster ended up coming in playing. Well getting a starting job in parlaying that into a lucrative contract for himself becoming one of the better bengals offense lineman and so. If you're betting against his kid i would not I would not do that. He is proven a lot of people wrong especially at the pro level so it sounds good. Sounds promising that hopkins will be back and he rehabbing. Well let's just let's keep the thumbs up and Hoping that that continues but some interesting updates there from lindsay patterson time dragon and company at the cincinnati enquirer speaking of lindsay paterson. If you follow her on twitter she posted a couple of pictures and again. We're going with the theme of offensive linemen injury update now joan williams Got me leak. There looks like nice nice. Leave work going on the The left arm there but getting a lot of work outs in. He is working out with joe. Staley former forty niners. Great offensive lineman Along with roberto. I think this is probably in this. I'm not mistaken. Maybe more of the bay area or central california where joan williams from there working out in california my neck of the woods and He is getting some some big working. Remember joan williams also was hurt at the end of last season. This from roberto wallace's at time performance. Apparently an instagram photo. They're getting some onfield work to is. Joan is looking pretty fit in in It's good to see him doing some work. Jona also a late season injury. Thankfully there was nothing torn or anything like that but he has also experienced some injuries. A very i mean. I know we're all expecting or hoping. The jackson carmen comes in and plays very well for the bengals namely that starting right guard spot. But also you know. I know we're hoping riley reef comes in and plays while right tackle. Hopefully hawkins comes back and plays well but john williams is obviously a key player on that offensive line. He needs to stay healthy. He needs to take the next step in his career. Hopefully he does so. It looks like he's taking it seriously as of As of this week. I am seeing here. G c three says. I think time is near eskin veto. Which would be more of the san diego county area. So that's a little bit closer to me. It's of east northeast sandiego escondido. If that's true we'll see but Good to see him working out getting out there and keep at it not letting some of these injury frustrations up now. We're going to this. This and we gotta give some kudos here to a couple of other Counterpart podcasts that we have. That are not part of our network with do great work. Some of the folks over at all bengals. Obviously we know Jake and james who do the locked on bengals eighty great job nicole zambrotta also in at least jesse have been overall bengals have been interviewing quite a few prominent for mangles and and whatnot in the recent history and goes embryo. Talk to jim. Breach about evan mcpherson. This is through cincy. Jungle dot com. We relaid that podcast. You can go to all bengals and find out Check out that interview really really solid tidbits from reach Talking about evan mcpherson specifically the bengals fifth round pick quote. He's very gifted. You see the height. He gets off the ball very consistent on a swing. I don't know that. I'd compare to anybody but i think he's going to do really really. Well i'm excited for him so go check out that interview. There i know the all bengals crew and the locked on bengals crew do some great work there. And i know also i think he was in here earlier. Strawberry ice he also has a great show. We've been lucky enough to be guest host on that. Or i guess Guests on that show when he had dave lapham on that show recently. I've not caught up with that interview. I had kind of a busy mother's day weekend but go check out his show too. Great guy great program did see him there too. But a lotta local shows doing a lot of cool things and we wanna give them props so check out that interview. It's the article is gone. Cincy jungle dot com or you can go to all bengals and checkout nicole's embrose interview with jim bridger who by the way Is now we gotta. I guess if i can pull this up here. He is one of the bengals. This was a little bit a little bit older news brought. We should talk about this here. Jim breach was actually one of the seventeen nominees for the inaugural class of the bengals ring of honor. That was announced. So you see here. You've got of course. You've got anthony munoz paul brown. They are in no matter what now you've got seventeen other nominee. This is on bengals. Twitter account can anderson williams. Jim bridger james brooks chris collins. Were isaac curtis corey down and david culture. And then we've got a couple more here chad. johnson. Tim krumrie dave lapa max toy lemar parrish ken riley bob trumpy reggie williams all incredibly incredibly important and talented players in bengals history. All worthy of being in the ring of honor especially at some point there but we talked about jim breach. We would be remiss if we did not talk about the rest of the bengals who are set to be Or at least nominated for the ring of honor so check out that. I think if you are a specific seat holder you can participate in the voting. So make sure you do that. If you have a season tickets and are able to both of this cool thing cool thing moving forward. Let's talk a little bit. More about these rookies coming in the bengals drafted a who many feel is a steel in the third round and josephus. I kinda find little interview tidbit talking about which. Afc north he would like to sack the most. If given the opportunity. And he spoke with banks reporter morris pelley on a recent interview quote. I want to go with big band. Because he was one of the very first football players. I ever watched when i moved. I moved to america But then there's a natural rivalry with baker in me with the texas with texas ino- you so it'll be interesting. But all of them will be great sacking. All of them would be awesome big band. I guess you know again. It's just kind of a nostalgic thing for cy. I would say probably the most difficult and arguably the most important quarterback that he needs his act was not mentioned among the trio of other. Afc nor quarterbacks that would be lamar. Jackson he seems to run wild on the bengals and a guy like aside who has a lot of athleticism at upside hopefully can help corral a guy like mark jackson big ban obviously still very productive and is a hall of fame. Quarterback probably will be pretty productive again this year. But you know. His mobility is definitely lessened. Compared to where he was earlier in his career defenders would just pinball off of them where they try to bring him to the ground so hopefully hopefully oh side gets his hands on all those guys and brings them to bring into the turf because that is an expected the bengals defense that is sorely needed. And why the bengals drafted him in the third round. I let's see. Where do we want to go next. We'll just do this when here. Since we're talking about the bengals draft class this is in regards to the ring of honor and the bengals second round pick this year jackson carmen. We talk about willie anderson. Being for the ring of honor and jackson carmen. Who has been working with willie anderson also paul alexander by the way. That's another great one willful. Just quickly show that one to just a second. Another great interview That was the all bengals in locked on that that you should check out to william quilt willy. Anderson is the definition of the goat graceful time. I definitely think he should have a gold jacket around him sometime soon and just for him to be. Part of my journey could not have been blessed more jackson. Carmen said on ray of our nominee william understanding. This was a couple of days ago. This saturday saturday is when this tweet with off the bank account so good stuff there by jackson carmen. Talking about mentor. Willy anderson and then of course just quickly i will share this one. You can check out the league s just promoting other shows. That's that's a man of our about spreading the love the podcast By james opinion jake lists dow go check out the interview with paul alexander talking about jackson carmen passing on finacial frank pollack and so Another good one by those guys over there as they continue their awesome work on their podcast. Here is a foreign woman. Mrs from since he well. This is on cincy. Jungle dot com by basically how. Nfl mock drafts are predicting the bengals. Twenty twenty one season to go. So this is by nathan begley on since jungle dot com. You can see here. Oh boy oh boy. Not high expectations if you kind of run the table. Cbs sports the bengals land. The fourth overall pick touchdown wire which is from usa today angles and the fourth overall pick leisure report. Bengals land the fourth overall pick leading green nation bengals play in the fourth overall picks pro football focusing in the fourth overall picks yardbarker bengals land the six overall pick. I don't know. I haven't completely look you'll need to go to Cincy jungle dot com and each one of those respective links as to their reasoning. But it seems as if it's the old they didn't take the offensive lineman at number five. They went with wide receiver and they are now doomed because they did. They went that route and not the other route figure. I dunno by the prognosticators at many many different logs and whatnot or saying bengals aren't going to be very good this year in their land yet. Another top five pick according to their takes the third top five pick in a row In and the third top-five Act taylor will have burned if they proved to be correct. Self yikes. i don't know. I don't know if i like that. I see james spencer here. They call us a small market team today. Chad bubble were target. Yeah cringe. wizard here. Our buddy things. We pick no longer than fifteen extra true. You'll town haters. Gonna hate a see i get it. I get so take that for what you will. Yes but on the good news side. The bengals re spn got a good value from their trade with the patriots and of course the trade was when the bengals moved back in the round. They got the guy they were targeting in jackson carmen plums and offensive linemen. They move back. Eight picks from thirty eight to forty six new england gave up to four round picks and so the bengals said yes. Thank you very much. We'll get are all kinds of linemen that we like. Maybe not that the fans life maybe not the pundits life as much. We'll get the offensive linemen we like. And we'll take those four other pixel lamb into two other guys that we liked as well and who they take tyler shelving the massive massive defensive tackle levels you yeah limited player and probably a a role player on rundowns only but that's a role that's going to be needed in the afc north and then of course you've got the athletic in promising developmental tackle out of east carolina deontay smith so that's who the bengals were able to parlay that trade into two more picks to shore up two of the weaker areas on their football team the offensive and defensive line so we can. We can say well you can have. I can burn. And then maybe one of the onta- smith tirosh elvin and encamp sample or you know lee mike and berg or went the all those people they stayed put and pick. Maybe you would've even still been jackson farm if they if they didn't take this maybe they still would pick them at thirty eight. I don't know but they were able to move back gift. The guy that they claim that they really liked in this draft in terms of offensive linemen in round two rounds three kind of area that got him and they were able to parlay that into two other players that they like for the defensive line. So i know it wasn't the most popular decision. I know you have track again. Bengals lined up by wasn't value. The value was in the train. And that's what the bengals executed so that according to espn analytics writer. Seth walder by the way top five most valuable draft day trades. You can find that article linked on since he jungle dot com so credit to them. Let's get to a couple of different while let's go one more fun one with the bengals and we'll get to somme of signor and rest of nfl news as well. Oh chad chad johnson slash. Ocho cinco. He was offered a fight in the adam. Jones mayweather paul undercard. He was offer. He offered a fight versus adam. Jones in mayweather. paul undercard. So a lot of you may have seen the viral videos going on around One of the paul brothers and floyd mayweather where he did the old Elementary school to to deploy mayweather. I got your hat and tried to run off with his hat before. All of the bodyguard swarmed him but johnson was was offered to fight. He turned it down apparently And if if you do. Follow chad which. I don't know if you're on social media why you would not do jet. He was at the last one of the last fights. I think it was. Ufc fight where there was an upset and he may have lost some money. I don't know but He flatly refused to fight jones And this this was actually pacman jones. Funny but johnson wasn't going to do it so I it's just in. I don't know that's that just seems to be a little bit of a head scratcher but some fine wine and went in some news in one. I guess we could all get a little chuckle out of but it will not be a pacman jones and a chad johnson slash. Ocho cinco fight To kick off the jake. Paul floyd mayweather fight. I don't know. I don't i don't i don't know how i would've felt if that by would've come to fruition. In what a great. What a great segue kickoff to talking about our sponsor symbol s. i n. b. u. l. l. Not nothing like seguin nicely from the fight card with think pacman jones potentially into symbol. Sim vu l. l. v. website. Sim bu ldp slash obiee ten dollar deposits. When you sign up using the promo code. Obi and what is symbol. It is the stock market for sports. You can trade. Sports teams like stocks. 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With some savvy free agency moves and knowing them seemingly knowing what their identity is which run the football setup play action and then when you're able to set up play action you can get the ball downfield to an obgyn or jarvis landry. They seem to know what they wanna do. And who they are and the paid off home last year. We'll see what happens this year. They've had the according to pf grades. They were the only team. The past two seasons to get an eight plus draft raid by their metrics. So i think we all thought the cleveland browns had a good draft. That is basically corroborating it especially if you're a pf nerd like myself and a lot of other votes corroborates up. This is predictable news with the baltimore ravens by it became official alejandro. Villanueva did sign with the ravens Back just a day after we took the air for this episode on the fifth and he did so because he was incentivized to play against his former team. The former team basically said thanks for everything. We don't think he can play anymore. So bye bye and so villanueva is now on the ravens. The ravens traded orlando brown. They do get ronnie stanley back. So you know they're going to kinda do some do some different things on the offensive line. Hopefully they can. At least hopefully they can get a year two of productivity out of the ueva kind of ridged. I maybe they you know will look to do some things in the next couple of drafts in terms of developmental offensive linemen. This is He is now with the baltimore ravens and this is on baltimore. Ravens dot com courtesy of ryan make. Who is a staff lighter. They're go check out. What wave ahead to say. And i thought it was interesting that he wanted to specifically go to baltimore for the ability to play his team and really try and stick it to him. So here's one from the lovable level. Pittsburgh steelers this is very cool story. assistant coach at this is called a major honor for mitchell. Mitchell John mitchell who is an assistant coach for the pittsburgh steelers is now going to be enshrine in kind of a cool organization. Area see national junior college athletic association foundation all fame and you can see some of the names. He is going to be joined by in the inaugural class. Bob mcadoo larry brown george. Killian lee farsi cheryl swoops night. Dick night train lane All on june twenty. Four th so You know. The junior college he went eastern arizona junior college and then he got a scholarship. Or leave that and you know. There's some a lot of players in the nfl who've gone college community college route. And then you know. I think i remember correctly cam. Newton one problem player. He was once a community. College left florida winter community college and then went to auburn. So you know. I mean there. There are a lot of stories of guys coming out of college junior colleges in going pro so cool. Stop for the steelers. Assistant coach transitioning more into grow. Nfl news here's a big one that came across the wire on monday. The jaguars are planning to sign. This is on europe. Ian rapoport twitter account at wrapping jaguars signed. Qb turned tight end. Tim tebow a one year. Deal for me tom. Pellicer a deal. That could be official in the next week or so. Nothing done yet with all the chance to make it team to reunite so he he'll get a shot he's gonna get a contract. He's going to be reunited with urban meyer. Who coached him. At florida. And tim tebow. Who is now thirty. Three years old is going to return to the nfl. Play different position. I think he hasn't played in. Like what eight or nine years or something that right So he's back the nfl and it's probably going to be a short term. I don't see really how this i don't wanna die. That's another guy you don't ever want out either but i don't really see the minutes fennel. I guess for. Tim tebow during the making the team being on the final roster but obviously he's one of urban meyer's favorites maybe there's specific niche know h back type role where he can do some things. Maybe even run the ball out of a shotgun formation and do some different things. I don't know i wouldn't count this. Get out but i would. Also you know. I tend to believe that remind as a specific vision. If he's going to bring a guy. Like tim tebow in and make this kind of odd move for his football team. Obviously it's also a little bit to move. The needle tivo is big in florida. Team is really really a buzz with lawrence and travis at the end joining the team. So i don't you know this isn't also you know the whole thing with tim. Tebow in your past was you know. Is going to be a distraction for other young quarterbacks. Or what have you because the fan base that he comes with him you know will always clamor for him to get his starting job. That's not the case here because he's not going to be That he played tight end apparently or some form of it. So that's kind of been the big news. Here's some more big news and we'll we don't really haven't Cited this website. As much as i guess i should But pro football talk is one of many sites out there noting that the colts are signing. Eric fisher the former chief to win your deal He was the former number. One overall pick got an injury last year. Obviously it was a gigantic issue for the kansas city chiefs in the super bowl. Patrick mahomes was hit sack harass throughout that entire game against the tampa bay buccaneers. But eric fisher is going to indianapolis on a one year deal in these got a team. That is really. I don't know what you want to call it. Scratching makes you scratch your head peaks your interest if i mean they've got Carson wentz now they had they drafted jacobson. They had failed. They've kind of done. These veteran rental deal things and see how it plays out. you know. They fill rivers last year. I don't know. I kind of doing doing these. Big name guys on short-term contracts see how plays out they've been a very competitive team over the past couple of years haven't been able to get over the hump hopefully for them whence is the answer but we'll see speaking of the super bowl in tampa bay buccaneers. They resigned. the guy who Was part of eighty domes draft class. Back in two thousand eleven. A lot of folks about the bengals should pass on. Aj green to draft blaine gabbert not drafted aj green and drafted andy dalton. But the blaine gabbert resigns as the four quarterback to the tampa bay roster back potentially backing up. Tom brady so he has signed there. Some really really sad and somber news. And i don't wanna we've got a little bit more to get to. I don't want to end on this because it is a really really sad story. But tyrel cohen this is on. Nfl dot com. The twin brother of bears running back to recall an injury colin. Unfortunately last year also was injured for most of the year so all. He's trying to make come back and so he was found. Dead is twin brother. Tariq terry collins twin brother tyrel colin twin brother found dead at age twenty five. The thought is that He was found at a north carolina. Electrical substation on sunday which is mother's day And the they think that He said he fled the scene of a car accident in raleigh early saturday morning And then he. He was believed to have died by electric yutian while trying to climb power equipment according to wake county sheriff's office spokes person. Air curry will so not a good story. Their thoughts prayers all kinds of good stuff to the colin family and to recolonise on an easy thing we deal with there so Yeah some somber news that came across their over the weekend and hopefully their families coping with that is best. They can not not great news over the weekend. Here are a couple of different to kind of turn the page and try and turn this into it away from some of the sad news year. Let's end on a couple. More positive notes. I guess the this is from. Cbs sports. let's just kind of briefly gloss over this one. Because i think we've kind of heard a lot about this. Basically aaron rodgers trade rumor. Timeline how we got here. And what comes next for the star. Qb this this has not gone many better. According to sources on there's some people that say could be repaired. Some people that say it couldn't be i think last was it last week. I mentioned something about ajay. Coomer was may be involved got. He was a guy that was cut by green bay. Shortly after they said they wanna is a day after they say they want to surround rogers with weapons and rodgers seemed to have liked coup morale. What he showed a couple of years ago they caught him. And so you know that ruffled feathers drafted jordan love instead of getting him. You know high profile weapons in. I don't know there's just a lot of feathers being ruffled there. Aaron rodgers not happy with the packers have been doing so. This is a good read for you. Know if you wanna know what's going on it's a couple of days old here but it's a good read on. Cbs sports in terms of what's going on with the aaron rodgers saga there. And what's the latest. Here's wine on the twenty twenty two mock draft. I mean we're done with the draft so we're gonna we're going mock draft for next year in. This is by chris pasta. Who does a lot of these for cbs sports and what they have. They've got the texans getting the first overall. Pick timoteo cave on tiptoe. A stud from oregon. If you if you go watch. I actually have a little bit of film on him. Giving elijah vera tucker fits on a in a game last year so bear talker. Was a guard tackle. Who went this year in the middle. I as the jets went and went and got him. They treat it back into the first to get him so but came onto the defensive. End of stud player projected number one overall to the texans spencer rattler the quarterback out of oklahoma projected to go number two to the lions. Who are who dealt matthew. Stafford judah rams and now have jared goff. We'll see how much jared goff has left in the tank as a starter which sounds odd and savings only been in the league for a couple years. But there's been some signs of progression. Their derek stinks sting. Li a stud corner out of lsu Going number three to the jets. And then he they have the bengals not going offensive lineman at number four but this is one of the sites that have the bengals having full role pick. They have seven banks quarterback out of ohio state. Good size kid Six one two hundred in japan also writes banks is the next in line at quarterback spot from the ohio state lamb. He has nine pass breakups over the past seasons for the buckeyes athleticism production pedigree or there for him to go this early. So bengals maybe in need of a quarterback in the first round next year. You know you got trae. Wayne's hopefully he comes back and is as while this year but you know he's just a couple years left on his contract after missing all of last year with an injury. A let william jackson go and so you know they've assigned hilton. They've got jacoby woozy. But they've got some questions there so that was where i paso of. Cbs sports went for the cincinnati. Bengals in the twenty twenty two mock draft just came out of course right after the draft disconnected. Where everybody i'm gonna get on outta here. I appreciate all of you. Got a lotta live listeners. 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The Kist & Solak Show #134: Controversy Strikes Again

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The Kist & Solak Show #134: Controversy Strikes Again

"He's my co-host maximize talk next steps and solar recovered from sixers raptors game seven over a span of many many months were listened back to old episodes and make fun of how wrong we this is Jim from the step over the radio ballers podcast talking seventy sixers tune in his office again out there that it's Al Sean because it's widely believed that he lied the story about Carson last year also because he was the one that broke him signing with the Eagles to Josina Anderson right but like manageable firstly I would argue the eagles passing attack has been very simple over the last few weeks especially with Sean how right it's been as simple as checking down here's the thing we can be positive this is not Nelson Aga- war unless he's asking for targets right because Eyler all his eight passes on those that are ten or fewer a right now he has nine touchdowns and zero interceptions like that so I do think it is an apt point is it though the offense is functioning quotes one of the things that they said is we need to make simpler sometimes you just need to handle what is manageable even Peyton manning new one I will say there is a member of the Eagles offense who does not think that everything is delicious which it's so stupid man why are we still dealing with this come on he is Benjamin so like follow him on twitter at Benjamin so like that's S. O. L. A. K. Ben how you doing brother I'm Mike everything is delicious thank you for asking who number one number one a top five quarterback in NFL history Payton manning maybe a top two player to ever play the game new to check it down check it down Carson Wentz and now now this is this is this is that's what the source said now this is Anderson continuing her own words and I'm your host Michael Kissed you can follow me on twitter at Michael Kissed. NFL THAT'S K. I S. T. as always joined by the best dog on Co host in the Game Mr nine year streak without a bad day if someone's right now is thirty eight percent on passes that travel fifteen air yards has three interceptions on passes like that which is tied for most in the League he also has one hundred and forty eagles player told us that we dropped the ball not trading for Jalen Ramsey High Roseman new needed to be done and didn't do it Anderson shared that an eagle source also talked to her about the Yeah so this is just put out from bleeding green Thursday afternoon jazine anderson appeared on Nfl live now obviously on Wednesday she had the quote on twitter such that and what does this sentence right also like it's paying leg if you brought up lake who's a good example like John elway Hannah or like to like three stab give offense taste me pain very famously like takes you know the seven flat concept and reads the flat I makes sense because you would think he would want more verticals shots so that doesn't necessarily check out for me but here's the thing if we're looking at you need to make things simpler handle what is percents attempts that have been deep down the field they're going to to players Mile Sanders Nelson idle right really not much anybody else so accordingly to me yeah or far right who actually like what's manning known for he's No for checking it down even paying to pay check down king like pay was the the basic concepts as you get as we've seen from Peterson's offense before Lug it's Matt Collins because he's always confused Max v Consoling it's the kissed in Solex show presented by sap nation and bleeding great nation so you are flying high on the kiss and select showed this is episode one thirty four brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green own that I've asked for Corson to be more willing to check the football down I've absolutely said that I regularly ask Hey Sweetie just like throw it away stop trying to break ah so there's that but then if we look at the attempts a Justina brought up the passes that travel more than fifteen yards down the field if we look at see what this translates to is somebody on the offense and it sounds like a skill position player saying we need to target Nelson Idle Alaska's the Mile Sandwich targets put this distraction out about the franchise quarterback headed into a primetime game for the division shut the hell up shut the hell up it's working well I I don't think the offense needs to get simpler I really don't think the passing attack simplify down everybody who's listening to the show especially listeners for a couple years now you've targeted down the field it's not working carseats alert hijacking down he's gotTa stop thirty deep knows nothing worse than others own targets Oh God so definitely not Nelson and I've seen took like instead of the seven he's famous for that so but I would say they're just pulling a name of a famous quarterback and kind of just you know like this is like you know you should learn this dumb dumb that saying these things that needs the offense to be less complex at this point I just don't understand the logic at this is a person who is currently on the eagles roster manning reference I don't agree with any of these takes I don't think they should have traded for more than the bounty that the rams gave Upper Jalen Ramsey two first rounders and a fourth you didn't do it because when you have on the offense I think that's very very valid the last thing I'll say is you WANNA why has nine touchdowns no interceptions on past ten years down the a new the cost and I don't agree with the fact that the offense needs to be simpler which is something that we've complained about on this show for few weeks now who is this person who is the eagles got shot played territory and died because a large by losing down on the field shot play the weird part about the story is even if you took out the weird random it's the timing is a little weird right in terms of like I think this complaint makes what's happening last few weeks which is why again to me when I read through it is like to me brother I'm with you I'm not surprised of frustration I get it yeah absolutely you'd wish kind of we held our Tom Until we got past Dallas especially tackle you don't need a push down the field just led the fight another down so like I'm there on that I don't think these last few games are the best argument for that but that's been a freshman I guess is this is Al Sean implying hey let's throw the ball Nelson Igor like a lot less and maybe to me a little more which of like you know what like the the desirable offensive changed from wherever the sources will just basically like to see you know throw it to Nelson or less down the field let's keep it to the short intermediate to Minnesota with a really couldn't get the gears turning on offense they had a lot of drives kinda stymie at the forty and a lot of those drives talking about the passing orange that's the extent of the recent quote is it shocking to me that there's frustration on the offensive side of the ball when the eagles have just came off what are you trying to do what are you trying to do to this team what is the endgame with this Corson's not going anywhere by the way right it would be so nice to have shown back McGaw especially in a big game like this by any other takeaways from that Ben now as I said I think the sean the old because the eagles don't have deep passing game so they have to get within ten yards of the end zone to score so that's why you know that that's always kills me backing down is a problem for the offense we must have lost different teams which I mean Yeah Carson wentz intended air yards have been four these past two weeks I'm with you less as our weekly series this time it's eagles offense going up against the cowboys defense will start with the injury report from Thursday and the Eagle's actually have shorter listened participate and I would expect all of them to be out yeah Sean Jackson Nigel Batum Timmy jernigan avant maddox Jason Peters and Darren sproles thank you and I are in agreement in the sense of like if there's a unit right now between the quarterback I e Carson or the receiving unit where there could be a quick improvement employees in a day right assuming the neck is good which is from what we've heard it is so we're going to see kind of what what that is but maddux potentially a big advocate working brother he's got the Mo- supposed to place on the team leading the team and I said that's what I read it s in terms of the game was against their touchdowns yeah because you have to get close to the end zone in order to get it you know you've been running ball down the field they've been nickel and diamond. I like most almost every quarterback has most short touchdowns because they were close to the end zone on through it so yeah the other Zakar it's quote from last year right to me it's the receiving unit led sides focus on our work there yeah they lead the League in drops in you wonder why the intermediate to complete a rate is low and I put up with the stats on twitter for tackles only did limited stuff with some individual drills I saw on twitter that's tyran Smith which V huge and Lyle Collins also Zack Martin went from limited to did not down yes Byron Jones Asian yet definitely on the offensive side of the ball Randall. COBB did not participate than there is Michael Gallup with limited participation and the two offense it's a loss against alison shore you can get feisty with it you know if it's a win against Dallas and maybe you lose your edge thinking happy don't want to be seen complaining so I get it you know in a flood strong and play man carbon the weakside that's what Chris Rashard would love to do all day long and Philadelphia anytime he gets isolated why isolated acts just stick the one that sticks out to me is as we know maddox is working through the concussion protocol and somatic can be a guy who goes from did not participate to full go the two big ones are Jones and Brown the corners if it's now Anthony Brown it's no Byron Jones I mean Cheeto as been struggling this is that are interesting to me for Philadelphia let's go to the cowboys injury report I think the wants to focus on are the guys with their status up in the air the big ones are some guys that did not participate including cornerbacks anthony anticipate with a knee and back which is something retracting but were it is he's expected to play So Michael Gallup that's offense tackles led Callans Tyron Smith bent for our purposes here Aaron Jones on him and then you can put six zone offenders over three three routes to the strong side ideal for the defense you lose Byron Jones you do not get the next the show went has the second most drops on deep balls to so it's just silly so all right we might as well continue this conversation under the umbrella of a preview as we go to the second part it does get Jordan Lewis on the field more frequently and the thing about John Lewis is he's risk it is similar to in terms of what happens when he's on the field he makes plays and this eighty is just another reason why last bow in the inquirer shadow less just tweeted I don't know if the garden translation or what but if there's an eagles player that thanks not it gives up plays we make plays the cowboys have better corner free corner four than most teams do certainly do more needles we we know Sean should be able to win those one match up so no Byron Jones means you're probably GONNA get more traditional zone dropping from Philadelphia the cowboys have one of the best it's I mean it's crazy right the guys move this fast it's really cool to see some of the Best Defensive Defensive Linebacker the Eagles backup corners getting on the field so they can withstand that but when you lose Jones and Brown and you talked about this you lose the guy cowboys how `bout that go team looking at the eagles there was limited participation of Ronald Darby with his hamstring I think he goes full participation Fletcher Cox who was dealing with an illness six players about that third screen so sean gives you a separation ability on the outside that's really be beneficial when a team is down there are league cover man likely might be with Byron Maddux's played outside and inside before and Maddox helps you keep in Jones off the field so those are the two that I'm calling that did not participate Jones who can raise a dude one on one and you have to go to more traditional zone drop lux they can't run with the couch want to Ronald she talked about a little bit with Minnesota where the if the cowboys content if the cowboys want to give extra safety attention over Jackson they've gotta go split safety now and now you're putting Jeff Heath in Ernie Jones and Kendricks made them pay not affected working the short middle and even the short outside areas of the field when they were rolling out with Carson right so you'd like to see the be able to underneath it ruins his advocacy it limits the threat of his speed so you can ideal situation obviously the cowboys good player is out in the eagles good players in is dropping and underneath zones they're really strong and Philadelphia went up against a guy and Eric Kendricks Minnesota who's really good in those areas and try to throw it against him pretty frequently consistently separate and win space and that's to Sean right we talked about the Sean is the fueled structure but the other thing that you miss with Sean is like winning on slant on third and five the ship sail on cars and not being the ranch is quarterback yeah win the battle this is absurd to me what's going on with this team where this is happening again. They're not playing like cohesive unit it to be confident only on the nation podcast network zone defending linebacking core is and Jalen Smith and lay Mandra especially with those linebackers are asked to do in coverage and they do it so well Jalen Smith Jalen Smith and Travis Kelsey should on the backside also could do that but he's not consistent as the Sean is also got three shield screens on third down Minnesota Vikings a win their one on one matches with our outside which brings us back to the point if the Shawn's back it's huge because right now you have really one guy who can trust it off you should be able to win against those situations especially if they go to their typical three by one sats and try to win on the backside I mean you look at the cowboys defense and I think the stats Li- little bit like the cowboys are here is films not great for which is just pointed like Colorado and I thought it was getting some sea legs under a sophomore year last year we had a bit of a step back a big one in terms of when we're GONNA get into how the cowboys like from their defensive scheme filled structure really helps you against the athletes have accomplished having a secondary Sean a big impacts for that reason it's the fact that if you're able to get him in man-to-man coverage situations he's your best separator right now in those situations he can happen to games he was against Minnesota but that does Shawn is going to be your best receiver in those situations I think we'll see that for Philadelphia F Byron Jones is a no go a jumpstart this defense and I saw John Owning Sports Day Cowboy store this out their shout out to John Friend of the show he's a great follow he suggested the possibility of demarcus have performed a little worse because they faced the combined thirty first ranked de Vito a offense throughout the season so their defense which was considered a big time strength easy wins and so I think that you might and the cowboys don't typically run split field so Jones forces again to rely heavily on traditional cover three ninety fifth in Defensive Devi away but unlike the offense that got some help in this metric football outsiders because it's too early to opponent adjust fully the cowboys along with the addition of Cooper really played a big role for them in the second portion of the season last year has not been holding up their end of the bargain now one of the things that the cowboys can do thank you can trust don't think you can trust those if they do I mean they probably will cause coaches don't like change their scheme for injury if they do they're gonNA lose reps I don't hate those play calls and other people are upset about the third one I'm hate him alshon tough guy to bring down the tank Desha little nifty you get him the ball and space we might be having a different conversation but when to Sean strong which is typically was deploying him in the Games which was healthy now you've got the sean going up against a flood zone and so he's got a safety over the top of Amazon a deep malaria the field it's not a good situation for Jeff Heath brother that's not Jeffy the then the way he he wins and Jeffey when too many ways that's definitely not one the situation where Jones plays well okay if you've got sean backside that he it's to sean racing another four four K.. Don Byron Jones Sean is going to win a couple of those he always does against man coverage souls WanNa once earth is going to be able to separate against Jeff Heats David Woods whoever he gets over the top Al Sharpton to be able to separate against Louis Jordan against over the top of the mainland's Anthony Brown would you do that if you're the cowboys because dam sure willing to got it right you have demarcus Lawrence. They have a rookie making his first start. This should not switching sides and playing over the rookie Andre Dillard who gets his first start in what would be a hellish for a couple opponents for him in Everson Griffen and tank initiative podcast network equip number five the markets will lawrence teams facing the cowboys are not scared and appropriately sow of Chris Covington and me the third year running we've done this the cowboys do not have an interior pass rush Philadelphia's really really really good really good Jeff Style and at helping offensive line anyway they're going to help dillard chips donaldson slides so you may be in a situation where you're going to be getting more single teams won't be Patriots who are great attacking your weakness they are so good at helping tackles that are that are weaker the need the assistance they're gonNA help diller it drops graphics every week and it's a lot of fun by the way one of the graphics that ESPN drops from Brian Berg is playoff leverage so how much more likely a team a big ball game on Sunday but seth dropped on the ten players double teamed most often as edge rusher number two Robert on lane top to right tackle league then Quinn and Lawrence Typically bitsy so you might want to leave Lawrence overlain if that's how phillies playing you so I would not what I would call like the twins an edge to and it's fine you know what I mean he's there I'll tell you quit still giving them more than I think we thought he would in terms of jubilee this way we've been yes be willing to move lawrence over to right defensive end I would probably open with that but if I see philly very heavily sliding shipping to Dillard's side and leaving lane island with Robert will make the playoffs if they win if they lose Philadelphia's thirty seven percent more likely to make the playoffs if they win this game versus lose the cowboys thirty eight percent so melt there and if your Dallas and you're watching that you're telling Iran mayor now you're told rob acquainted with sideline you need to beat this once we need them to send help eleven personnel or thirteen b when you see us these bs of anti-personnel Mariah identify mayor is one of the tight ends in the eleven twelve or thirteen personnel announced because they see how that's accessible that's been and what a headache and be for the eagles whether that means bracketing him in key situations like a lot of teams do I mean the eagles need to figure it out and is actually an offensive lineman right you're introducing by six the linemen and that's a good point the eagles six often of line sets have been great this year have been highly effective on those let's run the whole offense out of sixty if I'm taking two guys means one of my other guys WanNa one right so Philadelphia now in a situation where it's going to be a bit of a gambit to watch all four court especially coming out of the half Dallas and Philadelphia been to the best teams adjusting of the half this year it's GonNa be interesting to watch how they changed the strategies in protecting dillard isolating dealer to what Russia goes up against DILLARD's we'll be right back hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your I'll have to do it on the fly before it causes another slow start and we'll get into how we think the offense performs overall and give our final predictions coming up next on the kissed and Solex show unfashionable pants that coaches wear now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your throw wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and biggest thing to watch in terms of the trade fly in this game and so my answer is I expect the cowboys to yes look at tomorrow's launch over Dillard one on one situations I also expect right right if you beat Diller WanNa WanNa start sending you start sending you titans that's GonNa Open demarcus Lawrence Everybody eats piece of the Pie right. This is our philosophy on front four rushes collins and every year we do this every year we talk about how Antoine Words in Toronto 'cause they're going to be good passers and the inside and he never are talking a lot of reporters and academics about the major pressing policy issues in tech like facebook's content moderation around doing great youtube harassment plan or lack thereof and whether or not the governor pulled off to give dillard help on pretty much every passing down so they'll gonNA line tight ends the left side of the formation pretty regularly will see how Dallas counters that the last time I WanNa make watching Taco Charlton in that role previously Robin Quinny Taco Charlton brother he runs rush and that's the thing is like that'll be interesting they're gonNA slide the diller they're gonNA chip to Dillard and they're gonNA lie tight ends and they might even advertise on the outside of Hammond some in those recall right like twelve personnel be offiah do you you traffic entree dillard traded up for him slapping him at Twenty one overall twenty two whatever the heck it was okay planning to he's a good player towels we've done this for the did it with Peterson he was injured twenty eighteen they did with vitae when peters out in twenty seventeen to the extent which they made the c this Carson Wentz the right hand of quarterback Carson Wentz prefers throwing to the right shoulder to the left Shelley's more effective higher volume titans allied over the left side cardinals guy become a left hand injures of college football podcast says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is this all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters did y'all I'm GONNA get Lawrence back over there on long lake downs because I would rather Robert quimby double the demarcus Lawrence quiz criticize like okay but Quinn things game and then miles sanders went for one hundred yards receiving I'm going to say it for the cowboys game too and maybe keep the reverse jinx alive like Santa's been one of the most productive receive back in the league so far this year which is really fun it's something that you hoped it was going to develop through his game cool beans I mean half sanders even malone there on the outside 'cause you draft early go for that he's not by you know what I mean by that was out there starting as a fifth round rookie first round rookie is a little bit different caliber so gallons Zakar your long term extension while the top paid tied into the League that's you WanNa be running the passing offense through with the left side you don't have to run the offense so left and that's it were Carson likes to phone while the Eagles will also have answers even if the cowboys don't have Jones out there the cowboys are very interested in stopping Zakar as we saw last year when he shouted on Money Jj was essentially benched after a drop. Yeah I like you're you're you're you're giving your rookie your second round rookie wide receiver zero snaps WANNA you're starting rookie sorry wide receivers Ezell but it's just interesting that we draft the two receivers in the second round Ben I just like here's the thing like I think everybody who's pissed at Jj whiteside needs had a shot after that he's not playing and that's what I mean I put this on twitter too but looking at the wide receivers we talked about that lascaux Mac Collins's lost Agwu has regressed favorite podcast APP. Hey I'm the editor in chief of the verge host of the verge cast leaving revamping the Morley coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even sooner and we are back here on the kissed and so like show episode one thirty four brought to you by bleeding greenish espy nation. 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BGN Radio #91: DeSean Jackson Placed On IR

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BGN Radio #91: DeSean Jackson Placed On IR

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. You're listening to BGN ridden with Brandon Lee County and Jimmy Kamsky. What's going on it's BGN radio IMG Games? Can you with Philly. Voice Dot Com with always. Is Brandon. Gallon from bleeding. Green Nation DOT com. Are you Jimmy. I'm glad to be here with you. You on the Radio Episode Number Ninety One. There's a lot of talk about. I guess kind of kind of a big topic this week on the podcast. Receivers is all day all night. Jimmy I don't know how about you but after the game. The Eagles Team on Sunday where they beat the bears. I don't know if there's ever been aside aside from like the Carson wentz going down against the Rams I don't know if there's ever been a more or arrogance recent history at least it feels the feeling after that game to me at least was like they lost the game. Yeah Kinda even press conference on Monday. I thought was like that it was. It was a press conference. That happens after a loss not a win. He's getting grilled. Yeah like So my like ten hanging out ten awards after each game and I wrote it and then published it in star before I posted i. I'm proofreading reading it. Whatever I'm reading it I'm like wow this is all name was this entire thing is negative and it realized doing that while I was writing it but Yeah I mean there's a lot more negative things to take away from that game than positive things in my opinion. It's just a lucky that the bears were basically just pissed away. The entire first half of that game team is horrible and the not only bad but they also played very badly for even for how bad they are and I think it was very lucky. They got a a bad version of an already bad team on Sunday. The almost had negative nine yards in the first half possib dying but before that trubisky scramble and then Anderson Day hoping dumb and hitting him late like the nothing going that whole first half yes so just coming out of that game and I was I was pretty negative about it. Uh with Michael Kiss on the radio episode. Ninety Eagle searches bears postgame show. And I'm I'm feeling probably even worse about the team and the biggest thing has to do with the big topic of this podcast in the big topic of eagles land as a whole and the Shaun Jackson. Yes a lot of different angles to this. Wh where are the eagles right now. Jimmy Lai in the with the injury. So the Shawn's out. He said yes surgery. Let's get into this like who's to blame you blame What are your thoughts on this? After that I kind of get into looking forward while okay so I don't think this is a hindsight being twenty twenty statement Being made here. But clearly sean should've had the surgery as soon as he sustained sustain injury week to like. I guess the Eagles were kind of saying that. It was the Shawn's decision not to get the surgery but we don't know what the conversation was there between the Eagles medical staff and Sean Avenue like where to pass the blame on him not having the surgery. Whether it's it's on the Sean or whether it's on the eagles for you know not communicating with him well enough on in a sort of a his timeframe for recovery Coventry with surgery versus not surgery having this the eagles are just really terrible with communicating injuries to the median fan base. And when you do that and you have a situation like this you're basically leaving the fans and the media to sort of guess what's going on and that's not really a good thing from in their perspective. I mean I don't know who to blame on the situation but you know certainly if I'm the Sean I'm not happy about you. Know being blamed for I'm not wanting to have the surgery and you know credit to him. He did work hard to get back and he rehabbed as far as I can as far as my understanding goes he he. He really hard really very hard. You had really really hard You know very hard to try to get back in playing with the team again and obviously we. We saw what happened when he came back and gets Gone immediately it was four plays that he played four snaps crazy one reception. Obviously you know. He should've had the surgery week too and he would've back. I remember the time that Doctor Chow the former. NFL Doctor. He had put out that if he has surgery. It's going to be four to six weeks and I remember reading them thinking. I can't be right right. They've definitely done that right. Like that's a no brainer. To just have the surgery come back from it and be close to one hundred percent and you know you go forward with a with a healthy to Sean Jackson. Offensive actually has a speed element and could open up underneath the actually have a legitimate. NFL offense but the better option was to have him not had the surgery and play through pain whenever he does come back. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense. I also I don't now what's how to believe that Dr David Chow thing. Like oh he just has the because it seems like that's like a big sentiment among eagles fans dislike while he should have the surgery and it would have been one hundred percent fakes that everything would have been fine right now. That doesn't pass the smell test. Me obviously not being a doctor so maybe I'm just dead wrong on that but that seems like a little bit too good to be true like is that crazy easy to say but the time frame now also you know or the original. The one that came out with the John Clark report is fort was four to six weeks but is it really though. That's what I wonder like. Is that That's being put out there. Well now it may not be because it's a full tare right. It's it's torn off the bone now. In here's I want to include this eight have have these conversations where we're totally poking around as we don't know nothing you know anything about abdominal tears. So definitely do subscribe Dr and follow us read. Are we talking about here. I WanNa read this room John Clark but this in his original report This is a quote the Sean opted to not have surgery seven weeks ago because it is a really tricky injury some players can recover just by rehabbing some core muscles surgeries are successful. All some aren't some players. Say their injury is worse after surgery. some players still feel soreness and pain even after surgery. And that's in quote and and what I will include. There is mcallen's had a core muscle surgery and he was out for any. I guess he actually had to delay the fact that he had to have to and also like the the fact that he was out for like fifteen months. Just makes me believe like this wasn't as cut and dry as sean as the surgery. He's one hundred percent fine because like you said doesn't that seem pretty obvious obvious to do that at that point so maybe they were just dumb. Didn't okay I'm not ruling that out. It seems too good to be true to me. That's that's kind of where I come down on the back in the day when Andy Reid was still the head coach the head medical guy was rick. Burke burkholder and he was awesome like he would. It did seem to walk down the hallway with like a skeleton. They come out with like walking down motive. Manala got a skeletal foot. And you're like Oh we're going to learn on now. I air member him talking to us about. I think it was todd. Harriman's a small broken bone that he had like in the middle of his foot and he showed US allows take pictures cheers of it is a point where the bone is and he gave us a full detailed description of the injury comparable players who they found had the injury in the past and how long they're timeframe was for recovering. It was awesome. It was really helpful for us and then also of course you know the the fans benefit from it because they understand what. The injury is when when the expectation of when the players should be back so on and so forth and it just seems crazy to me that they don't just do that like why wouldn't they just do that. Be Up Front with the injury and then you don't don't have all this nonsense going on. Seems better for the players to yes and then they don't have to answer anything about it. We already know. It seems like there's really not a lot to be gained and I guess the the reasons do it the best reason I can come up with is what they're they're just totally fake sense of competitive advantage. Is that it. It's it's got I mean I'm sure that's part of it again. I don't know what really the advantages yes we need. The seems like they're always motivated by that for a dumb reason. In you know now that we know that the Sean is going to be out moving forward. What do they do? So I think it'd be a reason why there's such a negative feeling at least for myself itself and the people who complain on winning green nation who am posting these very depressing wide receiver stats over and over. I can't get over it. I the accuracy over October Mac and then over November so far and. Jj Watt has to catch were one more they never really early flees. At least the lions or the Falcons. Yeah yards per game over the past six weeks off Shawn Jeffrey Fifty Point Seven. That's your number one wide receiver probably by far too right yet. Yeah Nelson is. Laura is at nineteen yards per game. This is what timeframe was this past six weeks ago since the packers game I guess nineteen is all your for ham yards per good for for Nelson. Oh my God nine point four million this year making you love you. Love say that every chance is crazy since it's not hindsight either. We don't know I know. Yeah so is at two point two format. Jj's at zero zero. And then if you WANNA throw to Sean. And they're he's what point eight whatever. I can't five five yards. That's just I. I don't know how I can't look at that and be like yeah okay. Nicholson definitely like be contenders this year. Like no that is was a dealbreaker like teams have issues. I get it not is going to be perfect to every position and it's a long season and things can change but like how is this really going to change like what is really going to change change about the calculus here I don't know what Like Carson Wentz is supposed to do a certain point with these guys like He. I thought he missed some throws in the bear scheme but but was like fine overall but at a certain point like he's making good throws and they just can't help him at all like they can't make a routine catch. It's insane however they go down this year whenever it is however it is. He's going to get blamed assure. Yeah the when they actually finally they do meet their demise. it's coming. They're not winning the super bowl this year. He's going one hundred percent be blamed. He is and it's just like I. I get the idea of a quarterback supposed to elevate is team. I'm a big subscriber to that theory but at a certain point here again I just like there has to be a baseline though with that like it can't be dislike. You bring in literally literally anyone and the quarterback and elevate them like is Russell Wilson really like tearing it up right now the way he is with these receivers like is he throwing twenty two two touchdowns in one interception. Like I don't buy it. I don't there's no way the answer is no and how these receivers are just like their objectively actively just not good. I mean it's very fair to say I think earlier I think Tyler Lockett and decay. Metcalf are slightly better than the eagles have right now. And now Josh Gordon to we'll see how that goes that you will be passed on him. That was after we did this show. Let's discuss him Wearing we're going to get to him. And maybe Antonio Brown after the first break. Let's just do that now. So Josh Gordon was available the Eagles could have put a claim in hot in on him because because they had a worse record in the seahawks and therefore were ahead of them in the waiver. Order would you take a chance there. I don't think Josh Gordon is this catchall. Answer hurt this. You know magical fix but like why not. He was making a million dollars a year claiming a one million dollar salary. There's no reason not to in my opinion like why why. Why would you like this? All this stuff about attitude isn't great locker room. Whatever like I don't care man you guys are in dire straits like okay? Jj whiteside great kid kid. You said Great Locker Room Guy. He's your yard like. How is that helping the team win? Naing right it's it would be a desperate move. They I think they need to do it. And now you're GONNA have to face him in a couple of weeks in and watch him like towards the secondary. I think it was a Jesus Zoe. Berg who made this point that they do have Intel on on how you brought that up like a name. People are just in general offense to good friend. Jesus it's only berry listener the pot who just got kicked off twitter for Africa what it was for basically nothing When all these other crazy you know people are running around doing all kinds of disgusting? Thinks stuff anyway. He got kicked off there on a new name. But Jesus Roy burg has I know him. made the point and he. I don't think he was saying like I don't think he he was saying they shouldn't have have signed Josh Gordon because because of this but he did make the point that Andrew Berry who the eagles hired a this off season to take on some of the Joe. Douglas type of roles He News with Cleveland for a long time. When Josh Gordon was there so they threw him? You know they do have Intel on him but again as you mentioned he's way hey better than anything else they have on the roster so and he was sitting there for free basically idioms. GimMe Gimme up. The GAM contract was like two million or something mission it one million which is already paid. Yeah I mean not assigned imagine like the fan base would have gone nuts if acclaimed him right like how has doing nothing. They answered it juice to like your next game. I think a big issue with this team as a whole and this is kind of a point year is like Hubris and then he kind of comes down to that to some extent. I I think it's like because the message was last week. Oh we're getting guys back from injury including the Sean and it's like we don't need to do anything we're good as we are and no. You're not clearly clearly on the Andrew Berry Point. I mean he might be good. I don't know but Brown guys. The guys really know what they're doing looking at the browns are Kinda and here. They hired Freddie Kitchens which I mean again. This isn't even hindsight being twenty twenty nine when they hired hammers like mine was like what that guy seemed nuts. Sleep does not seem like a stable guy that can sort of cater to the needs of fifty three different players especially that group of flares and man their season as it is going south very quickly but so yeah your point is is right there that you know. I don't know from the from the. The browns rounds intelligence. Well but as I'd love to know what the reasoning was while he didn't put in a roster claim on him. I'd love to know precisely what it was. Yeah maybe maybe they do love a very good reason. Maybe I don't know but it's hard to imagine it being that bad where you're like you know what all right with We shouldn't say they're all right with magazine. They are going to sign Jordan. Mathews more than likely so you broke the news. So we'll get to that in a momentary but before we get to him. And how that Antonio Brown would you take a flyer there now. I don't think you can like he's going to be put on. What the commissioners it lists like says he's going to be suspended if he got resigned right like he wouldn't even be able to play for whatever nobody's ever going to play in the league? That's not an clearly like if you're not paying attention haven't been paying attention to the `Antonio Brown saga like how could they possibly relying him like to actually like be ready to play and get ready to play. And I don't think you're paying attention if you if you think that's a real solution. A lot of people asked no. Let's take a break and we'll come back and talk Jay Matt Beckett INTAS baseball truly. It is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. 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So what do you think if they do bring that in. Well it's not gonNA help them on the speed front. They're not gonNA get any faster on offense but he did have some big place last here. Dead Yeah Yeah Media Thirty touchdown against the saints in the playoffs and that titans game it was like fifty right. Yeah but I mean he's not a he's not he's not you know or not fearing him but he has he has good report with Carson. They are boys off the field and on the field wide receiver who likes arsenal end. Sons team. Yes he's not gonNA. It'll be gone to Josina Anderson in talking smack on quarterback he's more reliable than jj so it's an improvement. I guess It's not very satisfying to a lot of fans in that. He's now on his third stint with the team but I thought he was actually reasonably okay last year. Twenty eight targets. It's twenty catches three hundred yards average of fifteen which is led the team. Let Ya what touchdowns during the regular season so I I mean. He's a if you throw the ball to them. Probably more likely to catch it than Nelson alarm or may maybe show that makes now to well. I don't know dramatic. Jj Matt's has dropped problems too. Yeah again he's not GonNa help you much catching not gonNA. He's not gonNA catch deep balls down to Sean did but he is somewhat let reliable and he does have that report so I get it and he's going to cost nothing to come back to. I get it in terms of like if you want to put him in over Matt Collins and then actually get collins back tackling special teams. Okay I guess sure makes sense. Who Yeah I to me? Though in terms of skill set like. And maybe there's something I don't know about. Jj Nelson who admittedly. I don't know super incredibly well. I mean that's a guy with like actual four three speed and someone who enlists that theory would fit the Eagles Eagles would they need How much would that actually the shop in reality? I don't know I don't really know that. That's just the medical solution. The fact that Digi Nelson is still sitting out there after being cut by the cardinals. Probably the sign that he's some fixed for this for this offense nobody else's picking them up either so I think interesting thing would be fine. It's depressing for the team. The second season a row they kind of have to turn back to him and in part because as much as James did have those big plays last year. Like he's still kinda disappears contributes to that slow plotting thing that this offense has going on. I guess that's not Jordan. Mathews game is making those big late all the time like he can do that. But it's not you know you're not getting at that all the time and I think last year actually it was a great role Jordan. Mathews like that's what he should be. I thought he was miscast asked earlier on his career. As this big volume guy as a guy who can kind of be a role player like that makes more sense for him. The tough thing about that is he doesn't really play special teams so that kind of like that's why he was been free agent. He's kind of in a weird gap like where he's going to have to play offense but not get enough to actually be a big part of your offense and he doesn't play special teams so he's not really super valuable as a backup up. It's almost like he's he's curtailed to this eagle situation of like. They need someone who can kind of help them in their super desperate. Why they brought him back well they might bring him back now the second year in a row a bigger picture thing with this team Jimmy before we get into some of the mailbag questions proper before he finished at? That is one thing funny that I I saw on. Jordan Mathews was like somebody compared him to like the side piece. We did have that quote in Buffalo last here. You know you're out at the bar and you know you're looking for a girl whatever you don't find anything the Kinda Call Your backup serve. I would never do such a thing. That's this is all hypothetical. Yes but that's what they that's what they compared Jay Matt to turn weird career for him. They trade him away as a throw in and that Darby Trade. It wasn't even a main feature of that deal. Offense got so much better. I felt like without him. Yeah 'cause I felt like he wasn't like he wasn't helping in this team in terms of the hugh either to you know there's too much erz quote unquote yes. That's nonsense but there are certainly was too much. Matthews Acura was so so much more dynamic in the slot then he was like he was someone who is actually quake. It is weird now. That Jordan Mathews is coming back. Potentially being better NASA S. Nagler team needs full circle. Getting back to what I was thinking about. This team is a whole. Yes this stupid dumb team. That is playing garbage brand of football. A ball that had been complaining about all season since last year. They might make the playoffs anyway. Bright their schedule is easy and the cowboys schedule is harder in the cowboys might fall Out of it they might not. I'm not I don't think that's a lot by any means. But it's not crazy to think they'd get a wild card to yes that's on the table. Let's Say Dallas Somehow ends eleven games in the ten could be good enough to get in the wildcard. And you're looking at you. I mean so you look at Pulled up but I knew the vikings are six and three. They have a head to ahead against the eagles so that doesn't help them. I mean we watch them fall apart last year. Of course The panthers are five and three. Kyle was Cam Newton going on IRA for the rest area. And they're gonNA they're gonNA fall apart waiting for them to fall apart on your I pick against them like almost every week. And then they keep winning and the like David Negative for me all year on my techs Mike. I hate that team because because I've gotten wrong all your but they're I mean they're going to fall apart at some point seahawks seven to. They're not going to get to them. I guess they could if if they beat them. And then the rams are five and three so those are the teams that are ahead of them. That's not out of the question to jump jump to those teams so I guess head of the jumped three of those teams. Excuse me yeah yeah. It's not it's not a question like this is about where they were last year and they got wildcard. I'd like to know what the standings were this time. Last here is probably not all that different. I remember there was a point where it was like zero point. Three percent chance that they would get a wildcard football. Outsiders odds like it was a really and it it did. It took a lot out of crazy things happen. Getting improbable wins in L. A.. And then at home against the Texans and then the Vikings Cho- falling apart and panthers fell apart too and their cell apart. That's right yeah so it did take a lot. I don't think they'll need quite as much help this year to do that. And especially because of the. US can control their own side of things because their schedule is entirely you like. I don't think there's any way team goes worse than eight. I think that's pretty safe to say and I think even I would really put nine seven like I think the team is winning at least nine games. I really loved the dolphins. They have the giants twice in Washington. And I don't feel good about the eagles by the way no me neither saying that at the same time like I don't think this team is actually actually not good but I think they're gonNA win. They're going to win those four games right. I mean there's no way they can lose any of those four games right which for games giants choice Washington and Dolphins. I think you could lose so the giants once. Can you know I think Daniel Jones could go off into the secondary will pass them. I Dhabi I think they're really bad. I don't think the giants are good at one point this year I thought they could maybe get like seven wins. Maybe like that was their ceiling. That gives things really went right for them so like I was a little higher on them at one point but I mean I've seen enough this year. They are horrible as bad dad team though the met their mind is seventy nine right now by the way in point differential. They've lost five in a row not great so so yes. So that's that's a whole weird thing about all list stuff like this looking at the big picture Sean. And just like having no faith in this passing offense which by the way like. I think you need to win in the NFL. I I don't think that's a controversial thing to say. I like the way the heels are winning. These games to me is just not sustainable. We've talked about that yes year. We've talked about that last week's podcast like I just don't like I know Kinda they have to do now in terms of trying to win. I don't think they can just be stubborn. And keep throwing these wide receivers and counting on them to just suddenly break out of it entirely like they're going to have to game game plan to run the ball. You're not gonNA get an eight-minute fourth quarter drive every week. You're not and you're not going to be afforded the opportunity to not have to score as many points when you're planning Tom Brady. Russell Wilson as opposed to Mitchell. trubisky in Josh Allen. Yes correct I can't see holding up and by the way. The Eagles were not designed to be run team at all. This the way things are right now. I don't I don't think people are saying this. I don't WanNa hear this and and this is where the frustration comes from. I'm too so it's not like it's not like oh you should just be happy as the team is winning. No you shouldn't because the eagles invested top-five money in in Carson Wentz. He's averaged he's a top five average back salary right now and they literally spent the most amount of money in terms of cap space this year on their starting three wide. Receivers as an offshoot. Jeffrey Tucson jackson-nelson Angler were they have to show for it. A horrible some of the worst receivers in the league at just a horrible passing offense as a whole very really boring passing offense fence too boring. It's only being held up. By the fact that Mile Sanders can do some great things. And that Zach Hurts endow scattered. Are there less outside of those guys. It's a horrible passing offense. Yes yes and that is so that's frustrating and I think not just in terms of this team's ability to contend but the thing I talked about often is like and I think this is something you've stressed the. NFL was picked up from Jimmy. Like People Watch sports to have fun. It's supposed to be enjoyable are not enjoyable. Now they're just not. It sucks like that game name is not fun on a I was bored. And would you agree with me that like every and also the link was pretty bored There's no energy at the link on Sunday. Like people would celebrate touchdown. Sure or a big first down but people weren't like raucous in like real it's just there's no energy and it shouldn't be because it's a boring garbage way to play a string. These nineteen play drives. Together it's horrible. It's a change of pace to because in almost all their other games. They were behind early early. So yeah in this case they got up really quick and you think ok well. This'll be a fun day. Really Kinda wasn't it was just kind of waiting out. Is this bears. Team GonNA come back on him in the second half okay. Finally they didn't that was the fun of that game or lack thereof i. It's pretty bad. And I think that's something like turn to having a hard time reconciling down the break here because again they're going to win some of these games but like there's any of it really going to even be enjoyable if they beat the cowboys. That'd be enjoyable royal if they win the NFC east. That'd be that'd be good. Obviously but I it's just what's the ceiling for this team. I just I don't I don't think it's very high. Things can happen before we go the the second break on the we'll do the we'll do the mailbag questions after the break on the run game. Jordan Howard I guess I don't know made news three it put but he said that he wants to play Philadelphia long-term. Yeah should they extend him on you into that first all right so for my perspective. He's not going to sign anything in my the opinion that the eagles would offer them or that I would offer them for that matter right now. You mean or yeah I mean when when you look at it right I mean like right now so eagles did do it essential timmy journey in and the buy back in two thousand seventeen. We'll here's what I mean by that. So I'm sorry I'm typing as looking at the stats but you look at his career numbers. So this guy's on his rookie contract still says fourth year and for his career is three thousand eight hundred ninety five yards so he needs a hundred and and five more yards to four thousand which means he would be averaging thousand yards season for his rookie contract right so like is he going to sign in like some super team friendly deal right now or is he gonNA wait until free agency to see you know sort of what he can maximize his is pay out at. You know. Obviously you and I know that running backs have been devalued to an extreme degree over the last To say like five years or so. Aw Yeah or maybe even that even that much but when you know when you're the player and you're the player's agent you don't think you're gonNA rush to even knowing that I don't think you're GonNa rush just assigned some like super team friendly deal when you're when you're scheduled to be a free agent in less in less than half a season what does it take to get done. Is the question question. If it's like four million year more than that no thank you. Yeah I think it's going to be a situation where you're talking about you see all these stats in terms of volume which matters in terms of agents and stuff negotiating Jordan Howard. They is going to bring that to the table that he is among the most rushing. Yards along with Zeke and and all these other top of the market running backs now gonna like Alpay to those guys because we all know like volume stats are everything. But I don't need to be cheap like you said to now Jordan Howard told me twenty five. He actually turned twenty five on Sunday. I believe so he's younger. That's a nice thing. He has going for him in terms of especially to wanted to keep keep him along Around long term. But I just I don't think they will. I don't think they will because you know you drafted miles sanders in the second round. And you're expecting fighting in. I would think the bigger role moving forward in not signing this other guy to Take up all these carries and again. You're not going to be running offense like that's not the a long-term vision here the you paid Carson Wentz money to pass the ball a hike. You're going to need to make more investments in receiver. I don't I don't see them shifting their ethos to being run heavy team a doug. Peterson used to be a quarterback. This team has always prioritized like passing in quarterback. So I just can't see happening I would like Jordan Howard Debbie here on the team mm-hmm I dearly He's a good player. Need help a lot but I like I like Jordan our lot. I don't think it will happen. I Guess Trivia question for you. I mentioned that number thirty. Eight ninety five rushing yards. He has in his career since he's been in the league. Twenty sixteen. How many players have more rushing yards in Jordan Howard to incorrect correct lower? Want one player. Who is Zeke it by substantial Martin he has forty seven eighty nine so he he has the second most rushing art? Since he's been in the League so again what are you gonNa pay 'em right now. That is going to make him happy. You're not now the other not Jordan Howard is no reason to sign a deal now. Unless it's a no brainer deal for him. Yes don't have the leverage Jordan Howard as all the reason to go into free agency and and get what he can get paid all right so let's take a break. We'll come back and we'll answer some questions brandon dock after this. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. 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I Love Account I've never gotten Okay neither have I internet know him. Yes same very very funny guy. It does the Bill Simmons Impressions. They're really good really funny. If you haven't seen those go check those out very important question here if you had to compete against the birds. The friends team the Athletics Eagles podcast but will shook idea that Burma in a series of activities of your mutual choosing. which would you feel feel the most slash least competent? In first of all. I should note that we have the Tallest Eagles podcast ever. Yeah I'm six foot nine year. What Jimmy we? We might have to tell us podcast in the NFL. Probably there can't be someone. Tell our podcast. You're like what six six three okay in your. What six nine yes nice Nice so I feel like anything height related. We have a major. I Know Zach played some basketball but come on but yep not going to be tough to firm to get a shot off no no offense but basketball we would slaughter them. They're GONNA get rebounds. No like bose pretty bows pretty athletic. Sure I know he played baseball in high school. And you I know that He. He liked while he likes to brag about how he feels that he was the best quarterback ever Among Eagles employees the volume the bubble. Oh Bob every. Every week was it that they played every month. I don't know but they play pretty fairly often bowlegs societies the best quarterback our. I would know there. They believe him. Yeah so back in the day when I worked for PHILLY DOT COM. I'd do these videos after every trading practices. So that's right. I forgot about that. I'd be outside side whenever I hang around. The novacare highlights the longer than than most people there with like the TV people and the people that still work for the eagles or but rather the people that worked for the heels in both still for the eagles at that time and he and I were thrown football back and forth from like four yards which is pretty good like you have have a decent arm to be able to do that and he and I were having a long toss a ball got away from him. At one. Point at rolled Bennie. Logan picked it up. He was like another like fifteen yards. Say Behind Bo. And he just picked it up and just sort of lean back off his back foot like launched his ball like fifty five five yard in the air. Like right to me. I was just like all right. I'm done pretty good. That was thrown first of all NFL. Football's false if one is just sitting on the ground the really hard just even pick up the The whole deflategate thing. That's legit like batting. The ball like a little bit deflated is a major advantage because those things are like balloons and hard to pick up. Even they're hard to throw so like I'll feel good. That was thrown forty yards and defensive tackle what is launches one with zero effort like way further could ever dream thrown a ball. I'm getting off. I'm getting off track here but what I was getting at here is Bo has definitely good arm and you know I wouldn't trust anything along those lines any sport that involves throwing. I think we'd be in trouble there but NASC of all we. We'd slaughter them. I think thank. Can you play volleyball. Yeah yeah get like you can set and bomb. You're good there. Yeah I think I'm GONNA do it. Yeah all right so we'd be them in that too. They'd beat Addison Tennis. I know. I think she'll invoke probably they're pretty good at. They still play don't they. Yeah Yeah and I've never played tennis so they'd get the get us there. Serbia least confident one You get any like drinking games like how's your beer pong game it's fine. Oh you know what surfing noakes touching me on that. That's I can't do it but yeah yeah now. I'm Carrie I'll carry. The team will not one. I'll just watch but beer beer pocket get like oh can you chug now. Quick aside story again. I did like some charity thing at cheese Pete's in in Philly near the stadium yeah and for WIP is doing car bombs with With my girlfriend and I remember I was doing great danger. uh-huh ray did. He's looking like crazy. Good friends gene. Gene Seltzer is doing right. Yes they're Seltzer. Is there solters like I. I gotTa tell you like nobody's ever going to beat me in a in any kind of chugging contests like no way am I right. Let's let's see so I got some more car. Lampson Damn Dude like He. He wasn't lying he he chokes beer faster than anyone I've ever seen James's a legit crazy you've seen it. I I know I will just say I know legit. So I'm okay I'm okay in that area Enough enough were like I think ray did that. He was horrified watching me. Do car bombs. I was good enough to make radio horrified. But I'm not unlike cells level so I don't know if like Zach or she'll l. or bone compound beers like that. Yeah I don't know I feel I feel like I'd be confident in that against them personally about you great guy so I think I'd like I'd give myself a chance. We're just landing up shot after shot. I value ourselves alone again. That's where I think we put them under the table. I'll tell you we have to make something happen here now with some kind of competition or even some big like podcast thing to do something with the the bridge with friends so so so. We're Taking Volleyball Basketball Surfing. The alcohol related most of the important things basically so the challenges out there burs with friends wants to answer to podcast or do something. I don't know talent the talent it has been issued and we don't feel confident on tennis right. We'll say baseball. You only got golf now. Good either I can hit I can. I can hit it off the table. Everything else sir. Garbage the patience for Golf I. I don't anyway volley. That went over to them at underscore Joe Bryant underscore good friend brand loyal listener for many years now loved. You'll ask. I appreciate Jimmy Stories. Can we get a retailing. Feud with Matt Barkley. Okay so we're going off of of a we're going off football again from. Yeah so from my perspective. The way that went down was just wrote. It was just practice notes and it was two thousand thirteen thirteen right now. I think it was the second year there so he got drafted actually thousand thirteen Judaism fourteen. Yeah it Kinda like not worn. I was welcome Is the wrong way to put it. But he wasn't like you know this young like ooh Shiny new draft pick playoff shout. We we gotta figure it out that he wasn't that good anymore by the time the full first year is over. I think it was. May I think it was not as in May and I was just doing practice notes. It wasn't even like the headline of my notes. It was probably like a fifth or sixth. Note down where I just had an observation and it said that he threw out route or is it some kind of sidelined throw that required. You know some kind of arm strength to get there and it was just a lollipop dude. It was and someone picked it off. It was just bad. I just noted that's money throw that I added color saying the effect of like you know he's GonNa be limited with with what you ask them to do and I don't think that he's GonNa be a guy that can be a long-term starting quarterback because he's always going to be limited by his weak arm. Right yeah you use the word velocity in there somewhere because somebody on read it on. Eagles read it. They posted my practice notes. They didn't have. They didn't just use. What my headline was they took that? One bullet bullet-point I guess they felt that that was the most interesting point in my notes and they made the headline basically something today. Effective like Matt Barkley Arg we like a noodle arm. So that's what showed up on the list of You know articles that read. It's Lincoln was basically Matt. Barkley Sucks Eight. So Barkley was a a reader of read it. He would like hang out there and comment apparently on read it every now and again and he would do like Ama's there so he saw that he commented on the one that posted it. Like I had nothing to do with posting on Reddit but leapt commented. He wrote shot up. Jimmy you don't know what the route was with. The defense was on that play. And he's like if you you want to see how how good or bad my velocity is while we have a catch sometime. You really got you. Yes yes like everyone's like ooh and people are like tagging crazy on twitter like who Barclay got you son right so like I'm like all right. Let's have a catch them. Let's do it. It was like no downside for me. Like if he like. I don't even know what he had in mind. It's like whether we're actually. I don't think he said we should. We have a catch. I think we should. We should get together and see how like see how how how much velocity I have but but I think the implication was he was gonNA fire football my face and see if I can catch them or not. It was like threatening on it was either that or it was like. We're going to have some kind of like quarterback challenger. Yeah something like that clown you. Yeah Oh really. A professional quarterback has a better arm than me really. You got to be there. I don't know how exactly what he had mind but immediately like yes. Let's doing I'm in wherever you are. Whatever it is you have in mind? Let's do it and then he just disappeared thereafter after so what happened was one news outlet picked it up the a blog or no like a like a national news outlet Oh wow losers one initially and once they put it out then like ten others picked it up. If you Google Jimmy. Kamsky Matt Barkley. It'll be everywhere like you'll like every major you know media outlet had it because there was nothing going on in the NFL at that time because it was not A. It's like there's nothing happening article about this did you. Yeah did you just Google it now. Yeah literally the headline says Matt Barkley versuns- TO RECAPS. That's awesome. So yeah I mean it was everywhere like there. There were like radio stations around the country. Like call me like Can you come on our show I did one and like the host was like Who made you you quarterback evaluation guide? And I'm like nobody but like I've seen and of quarterbacks live to know who has a arm and who doesn't so like I think pretty solid ground being able identifies when it didn't like our very good arm but once I did want in there are like jerks about again. I'm getting them good on them. Good in the region now on so you went on with Francesa and and I think it was a show in Denver. Actually it wasn't Albright but it was. It was some show Denver and they're jerks. I'm armed with all that but yeah I mean blew up it was it was everywhere whenever that happens like your whole day and possibly days are just like that one was fun but by your like your life is like you just get bombarded with like all kinds of stuff online for that was fine. That was a that was Ever like after that anytime like I'd be near him the locker room he'd be like stare me down He was he's probably the player fire. That hates me more than any other player. Fair probably fair to say any reason to think the eagles will be any better next year than they are right now. Question comes from Kind John K. I N. E. J. W. N. What do you think to me is there any reason to think deals will be any better next year than they are right now so I guess the question there is? Are they in sending team or a descending team. I think is what he's getting at and I would say it's the latter really. I don't think it's an ascending team. Came second oldest team in the NFL. They need a lot of work. They've had ten draft picks the last ten years the last two years as a descending. That's a pretty easy answer. I think I agree. I don't think they won the Super Bowl. They're not going. It's not going up from there. I don't think I'll hope is lost. No no no. They have if something work with from a roster building standpoint they have it right in my opinion that they value quarterback value offense of line defensive line and then secondarily they value cornerbacks in receivers. They've just done a bad job of picking the right wing the last two the last two that I mentioned wide receiver and cornerback. Oh Yeah how did the most important ones in passing league the the quarterback and then after maybe offensive line is maybe the conversation. But I mean you have to get him somewhat right they. They've been horribly bad on the at those a two positions for sure but yeah. That's pretty easy. Answer right descending I I mean I don't think they're gonNA be like I don't think they're dramatically descending in that they're gonNA win and five games next year but as long as Carson Wentz this year I feel pretty good about their ability to at least be some kind of contenders every single season but they they have to get those spots better specifically cornerback and wide receiver and speaking of the wide receiver position. Before we take our next break here. This question comes comes from J double underscore rich in all caps. Jimmy Dial Global Years Score. Wonder how can we get rid. Or how can we get out of. Shawn's John's contract this offseason. That's a complicated answer. The kind of can't almost kimball okay. So it depends on how you look at it which isn't seen by the way but while you do this like I I that is the most perplexing move. I think they've made of the offseason rightly that has to be their most confusing. Move Out of anything. They've done any single signing or anything the decision. Listen to guarantee all Sean Jefferies contract for the twenty twenty season like is just perplexing so that if they caught him next year. It's twenty six million dead money. You can train them it's It's only like a sixteen million in dead money in. Its Seven K. Yes that's right. The embryo in reverse there's lose is wrong way of putting a reverse cap savings you. Yeah yeah that's one way to look at it the other way to look at it is how much did you save. Save when you read it as deal and that money is going to carry over into the next year anyway right. I don't know the answer. I'm meaning to look into that. But my intuition says that he's going anywhere he's on the team through twenty twenty at a minimum and then he's probably also well. Nah I guess he'd be gone after twenty two years a season as in like this year next year for sure gone. I mean it's just crazy to think that they could have gotten out of this contract after the season and they they absolutely would have to. They hadn't and and they drafted his theoretical replacement in the second round. Where they're here? Where they now? They can't get rid of him. And the contract is looking like an Albatross. He continues to struggle so the way he has and I think on hasn't been like his game against the bears was obviously the worst game of the season and I don't think he's been that bad and every single game he's been their best receiver. You're like by far. which isn't really saying anything? He's only getting older he's GonNa he's wise twenty nine now. He's turning thirty like this is just not. This is not very This isn't trending in a good direction. Turns thirty in February's just nope and good is really all you can say about offshoring of medical player and he already has like an you. You know an injury history to might so you don't feel good about your any. Oh you heard himself again this past week before you had the I never floated did. That's ridiculous Daily News. They lie about everything. All right we break here. And we'll tour our final questions an in her. Wrap this one up back after this. Hello Listener I'm Sean. Ramos firm host of today explained. Vox Daily News. podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that defines our moment and asks smart people to help us understand it in about twenty twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network back here. Bijan radio final segment here. Burnley Gallon Jimmy Jimmy from our friend here at that mood Alley Ninety Four. He asked should the Eagles move on from Sidney Jones. While it depends on what it means that they're not gonNA come now than they're not gonNA GONNA come during the off season that mean these got some value right. I mean you can trade them for something because it didn't cost anything and somebody will okay. Yeah I liked him and as a college prospect outdoor you picked that guy jerked odorless. So they're not gonNA cut him what he get for him. I don't I don't know it's it's they just and I were talking about this on the recap show. That's kind of like I feel like sitting got lucky with with all the way like with the way that game went and how everything might almost got buried the fact that he was a healthy healthy scratch as yes second round. Pick in two thousand seventeen. I Know Doug was asked about it but still for his brand and Doug's answer just really interesting is in a great right spot right now. Okay no he's not he's actually a good spot for the eagles in the sense of now. He can't hurt them when he's active. He's on the field. No not playing well but I mean again second round pick. I think that's A. That's a huge stink. That I didn't stress on the recap show and I wanted to get to the fact that that pick is a bus and the fact that like the. Jj Arthur whiteside pick is not a bust just yet not to get start off to a good start. I mean to completely miss onto second round. Picks like that. If that's the case here I know drafting hard and now it's not this it's not like there's teams that are just always consistently awesome at it but I mean to miss onto second round picks in such a short amount of time and not just miss on them in the sense of like e got someone who's like a backup or you know have a role player like Mrs like they can't even play. Play is like a huge. It's a big deal. It's kind of a really bad thing. I don't think they should be in a rush to move on transcendent Jones just because he so cheap but I am also not opposed is two. Oh we got breaking news happened. I just got a text from the they did. They are saving a twenty twenty fourth round. Pick as Jimmy has been talking about literally just article about this on Monday and it is absolutely the right. Move Typing furiously. There's there's no. There's no doubt in my mind that they should have done this. We talked about on the PODCAST. Last week Cindy Hill played eleven snaps against the bears. Are you keeping this guy on the roster so he can play eleven snaps and by the way one of them was a very dumb penalty against the bears. When that late hit on Mitch Trubisky so cutting Sunday Ho was a no brainer and again eagles? Now get a fourth-round Compaq. No one would have traded a fourth round. Pick for control right now. I'm sure they are are there. You go and that potentially opens the roster spot for the receiver of the Eagles will sign. Maybe Jay Matt has talked about earlier so there you go big day for Jimmy. I'm GonNa pour some gatorade over my head Two huge day for Jimmy because between the G. Mat. You know report in a Sunday hill getting cut. I mean it's just my phone's blowing up to this control okay. So let's blow through the rest of these questions. Then you gotta right. Yeah let's let's get to the JJ takeaway side one on that Why isn't he playing to me? Well he is. My first part of the answer is not playing as much as he should be. I arseny playing over mack. How right okay? That's maybe the better question but I will say this. Oh before I get to that part. I will say that he is playing. What is the one hundred and seventy something snaps on the season Something low I think in the past six games like forty four okay but I mean on the season he has one hundred seventy something. I believe he actually played a lot in lions. He has two catches for fourteen yards. Yeah is played enough where he should have more than two catches clearly right. We agree on that right. Yes okay. So that's as part of it. I mean that's part of the reason he's probably not playing over Macau's and I think the I think the answer is pretty simple. Maybe he will be good some point but right now he's probably not very good. Yeah I think that like isn't that. What the phrase outcomes razor like this sometimes? The simplest explanation is the correct one. Yeah and I think that has to be what this is. It's like okay. I think the eagles coaches are very aware that Mac highlands only has while he has no catches since September in this whole nonsense about like their cross training him at a position. Whatever like no I don't buy any of that? If the whiteside was like bawling out they would not be like well. We didn't cross train him out of position. No that's that's a bunch of BS to me. That's something you say to kind of protect the player and to me. That's what they've done here. I guess you one more your question Jimmy here okay. This is a big one. It's actually from me very nice of me Randy Weston in here at rand gown. I didn't even actually tweet this. I just wanted to ask you. What is your the go-to Wa wa order for a meal? Not so not just like you're picking up like a pretzel like let's say you had to eat a meal. Like what are you getting your ordering something from the touchscreen maybe doesn't have to be the touchscreen in but let's do touchscreen okay meals fine too because you can get pickup like those SCISSOR called the Sicily's all right a so I go touchscreen I usually get the Turkey. I'll go bacon. I'll go oregano pepper a little bit of oil. That's that's it. I think people are GonNa be appalled by my order. You'RE GONNA say they're going to be a Paul by my order. No so I would get a classic role Pepperoni. The whole thing is toasted cheddar cheese. Extra Mayo Rans oil lettuce pickles. Banana peppers salt black pepper Oregano. And then I get Bacon on there too. I respect it. I mean that's a pretty like going on there where I don't do this very often. We're on that because mine's like super basic options are just there in front of me and I kind of like a kid in a candy store and I just can't resist. It's like oh I want all of these things on the same page and obviously I'm a big guy. I'm hungry final thing I wanted to get to Jimmy and before we wrap up is Obviously know you'll see in this week but that wanted to Quick pick here biking's at cowboys cowboys favor by three. It's on Sunday night football this week. Who got in that one gallows saying Kirk cousins in in Primetime Games? Yes you know what it is. Do you use your head in one Nanan Game they've trailed at some point at any point during the fourth quarter in his Vikings career are owed ten in one so basically let me four comebacks. You're you're always. You're always on the actor cousins Futile stats. I have him on games against teams. That finished the year with winning records thing. I haven't yet yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm the one who made that popular I tracked I. I'm I am. I am convinced I 'cause I always inundated never Wins against good teams and then I actually looked it up tweeted out those stats. And like they got like a billion re tweets and then everyone is kind of started using Aso. Everyone's welcome. I actually wrote wrote this already. I wrote my Ticks this week at this. I'm looking it up all right. Kirk cousins is blank and blank for his career in Primetime Games Thursday night Sunday night. Monday night or Thanksgiving. How many games can you tell me? Nineteen Okay I'm GONNA say he is like two and seventeen nineteen a- at I band okay. Six thirteen x thirteen is correct for a winning percentage of three sixteen cousins and I guess he played Washington teams. Weren't that bad always Certainly the vikings team that he's on his very talented should be better than that. Ah I was I would assume that. A Lotta those Vikings Games where in primetime because they were a project together whereas in Washington they weren't getting as many the last thing saying cousins is that Some of the Games to He's played in our last year. Obviously we all know about the one with the bears. Didn't have anything to play for any loss that yes but there's another one in two thousand in seventeen. I guess it was where the giants had everything wrapped up in need. Had No reason to play in week sixteen or saw. That's right yeah seventeen. Yeah Yup. Yeah and cousins like turned in a basically like a total no show and a game where the watterson needed in the giants. Do not need at all. And I don't even I think they were playing like all of their starters the arresting yes so yeah so it wasn't even close if I recall Nike and it's so embarrassing that the US constantly absolutely gets shredded by everything. Yeah right they beats all good teams and the Eagles Except in the super bowl year. Yeah Yeah that just about does it for this episode Abedian Radio Jim and I both have to write the Andrew Sunday home. Being waived no final thoughts Jamie or any Well I mean it's a big day for my brand compensatory picks huge day day for Jimmy huge day scoop and they cut some Deo young. I'm just GonNa ride your coat tails here and just say you know that's that's my bgn radio co host doing all this great stuff. It's just to kind of Leech off of your greatness over here so don't mind me and birds with friends we'll see you on the basketball court. Yes Yep Yep challenge issued will be waiting. That's does it just about. Does I

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Let me ask you this question. You heard the new Odell Beckham. Julia was being traded based on your conversations with him throughout this season. What was your initial reaction when you heard the news? Surprised that he was dealt because I had been hearing even after he got that mega contracts evening of ninety five million max which was third week in the preseason heading into the season that the giants were still thinking about trading him. And when it was the end of the season adad, even asked, you know, you know, check into that. You know, you think that's still the case. I said let me check back with my sources and make sure it's the most updated information they checked this was before the combat came back to me and said jokes they still trying to trade him so fast forward to the combine where you have the general manager. Dave Gettleman still talking about oh, we didn't sign him to trade him and all these other things, and my source said maintained very sad faster that that was the case at the combine I had talked to at least two teams that I had expressed interest in doing the deal with the giants if they decided to move up to try to secure a younger quarterback in another team. That was definitely. Interested in you know, acquiring him. If they could not be the first ones to make a strong overture to the giants because they didn't want to you know, boost the price on their own bath. And and then yesterday, I got the text even from my source and look the Browns are engaging in talks with the giants. I called old Dell I'm like, oh, you know. This is the tech that I got this is a guy who's never wrong. And and then the rest is history. I mean, literally be he I would say, right. When the the tweet came down because he was asking about the potential of it happening. And then when we got on the phone he was li- Jarvis. Call me say coach once you GM wants you like, you know, let's let's make this happen Josina. No one. No Dell the way that you do how does he feel about the Cleveland Browns? Well, I mean, I'm a be honest. And it's like, you know, it kinda yesterday. I mean, he was shocked. I mean, the first tax was and then as we were talking I mean, you could hear this prize in his voice because his Jari. I mean, if not like what he was expecting in like thinking about teams that he could have potentially gone to. This was not in the initial, you know, kind of scope of discussion. So when it happened, this is your life. You know, you know, he's gotten accustomed to New York you'd gotten accustomed to being LA in the off season. So it was jarring. But I think even as I've talked to him today via tech stocks him last night. It's settling in Santa settling in as far as the possibilities. Even of the offense working with the young quarterback. Baker Mayfield working with his one of his best friends and Jarvis Landry who's a wide receiver. They're ready acquired a Olivier Vernon you got a niche. Aw, at running back all the pieces that John who's doing a good job working with those picks that he came in herited into the situation. And really trying to build an exciting team. Manson right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news. We've heard so much stuff about why Odell Beckham junior was traded. And a lot of people point to his interview with you with Lil Wayne attendance, as being one of the things that was that qualified as a final straw per se of the New York Giants as the reporter who interviewed Odell Beckham junior and in sensually in the middle of it all at least to some degree because they point to those things as one of the nuggets that really really irritated. The New York. Giants talk to me about what kind of role you think his sitting down with you? And speaking candidly, as he spoke may have played a role in really the giants deciding to let him go. Well, I think the interview illuminated things that were already going on. Okay. The giants were already losing, you know, a lot prior to the interview the interview didn't cause any losses there after you know, the giants are still eight and twenty four into season. What is what is perpetuating? The situation is the ongoing adversity that the team is experiencing especially since they were already eleven in five prior to the new regime taking over. So the interview with little Wayne and sitting down by myself didn't create a loss, it didn't create, you know, certain, you know, ineptitude when it comes to the running in the function of the offense. I mean, you have a quality talents. That are there and personnel. When it comes to sterling Shepard Odell Beckham junior and now saquon Barkley, there should be no reason why you have team game. Going on. Why you can't reach the thirty points while you have team games going on why you have issues completing the ball down the field beyond twenty yards and what a talent like that many consider generational bills. When in his own words, where he is not being able to fully maximize all that he can't contribute to a team. I mean, you heard the soundbite in the interviews. Even when he said people think, Ooh, I got ninety five million, and I'm happy, and that's it for some players. It is but for this player like all he's feeds on is doing well, contributing to a team being competitive and winning and being successful as a team. So when that's not happening that's bothering him. And it wasn't like he went in. That interview trashing align manning when I asked him, you know, if he thinks that alive presence is an issue or whatever the specific question. What I what you know that I asked him. He's just an I'm not sure it's not like, you know. So when you think now, even about all the things that athletes have said, you know, since that interview being more vocal this season in particular didn't trash. He like, he just said, he wasn't sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Joe's, and I guess you'll see that begs this question, I know how he feels about saquon Barkley. I know saquon Barkley the stood we all have to us. We can see we can see how gray body with two hours could see how great saquon Barkley is. But if you're all junior, even though you recognize this potential greatness, even though you know, the fact that he was worth at number two overall pick even though you personally seem to have a good relationship with saquon Barkley if your Dell Beckham junior it almost came across like he desperately wished to giants drafted a quarterback because ally manning may not have been the answer anymore. What can you educate us about in terms of Odell Beckham junior's thinking as it pertains to ally? Manning. Well, I mean, first of all you're right on your perception of his relationship with fake want. I mean, they call each other big, bro and little brother. So he's obviously ecstatic to you know, the talent that he has and what he's doing in terms of incorporating that into the giants offense. I mean, even after my interview, I think I remember they played the falcons Monday night football or one of those national games. And I think it came out that week that ally manning deal had dinner together, I think any lies house or what whoever's house, you know, trying to, you know, even after the interview just, you know, kinda show where their relationship was. But it doesn't really change the thing on the field. So when you asked me about how does he feel about the things on the field? He has every respective allies of quarterback in his resume. Right. But when it comes to the offense not operating to its highest potential. That's just human nature to be frustrated at the ultimate outcome, which is a lot. If it's a win, it doesn't matter. But when if losses even it's eight and twenty four in a total thirty two games over. They're eight and twenty four my that is not that is not me. There's not doubt that it's not little Wayne that is not anybody else's agenda that black and white winning record. And I ask those questions because I wanted to get to a big point. I will you know, when I wanted to things that are peel from last year was when Pat Shurmur the head coach for the New York Giants was raving about saquon Barkley. He wasn't just raised about saquon Barkley the player. He was talking about him as a person and talk about this is the kind of guy you would wanna follow. This is the Connick guy. We should wanna listen to who should make headlines who should be quoted that was to me a shot at Odell Beckham. Gee, I don't care what anybody says that I'm not talking about patrimoine person. I'm talking about the words that actually came out of his mouth because I don't know him as a person that's what I peel from. It was oh del Beckham junior peeling from the of things he was hearing from pressure molest season. Well, I I give you an anecdote Trump. I remember in the preseason prior to him signing his deal which was the week of the third preseason game. I remember specifically where there was a practice. And I think they were breaking for practice as a group and I heard from several players. I'll just say that that when they broke the huddle that Pat Shurmur was talking about out loud. He expects everybody, you know, to practice in and beyond the field, or what have you, and I got called immediately after that happened on the field with people talking about they felt like Pat Shurmur was sending a message to down not just to but in front of everybody else. And this was like up two weeks into just trying to build your new status and tenure with the team. And so listen, you know, it takes time to build relationships especially with star players any players when you're the head coach between you can expect that to happen overnight. But especially is not going to help win things like that are happening because you know, with the I've been a social media. And just being younger in general these players notice and proceed on everything and things like that certainly didn't help or being overly occupied. With my reports. If I'm reporting that you know, he's playing or he's not playing in a preseason game. If you remember Steven in this particular preseason, most of the stars didn't play it's not a big deal like hearing about coaches ir over things like that. When I'm trying to do is a luminous, just, you know, kind of being overly vigilant over details that really don't matter and also not being cognizant of how when you say things like that how they're rubbing into a perception of you. Anderson NFL report extraordinarily ESPN, right? Here was Stephen ESPN radio ESPN news. So with that being said, do you expect better times for him in Cleveland now that he's there Baker Mayfield? Jarvis landry. So much has been made about his relationship with the Jarvis legend, how much do you anticipate this will help or make odeal junior significantly more happier than he's been? Well, I think the honest truth of it is that it's an adjustment. Because it wasn't something that he was preparing for or or pushing necessarily. So it's an adjustment. It's a life adjustment. And when people were speculating about a potential trade. This wasn't initially one of the teams that people were either one thinking or he was thinking that potentially could happen. But now that it has happened like I out of your, you know, back and forth about a couple of our hours ago. And you know, he was saying that when asked me ready to ball Becker is like, you know. Yeah, you know, you can see the assets that are on the team. I think he is more, you know, settling into the idea of the things Stephen that. He can accomplish what this offense potentially that, you know, wasn't necessarily, you know, happening in New York, or at least showing the same synergy from top to bottom in terms of the ultimate outcome of the game has right. It was even a ESPN radio. ESPN news. Let's transition to a couple of other subjects because it's not like you covered. John you covered the entire NFL your thoughts about Levy, hi, pal being a New York jet. What they had the money to do it. And I think actually the root of this to me stems from what happened at the end of the off season, you know, with the firing of Todd Bowles, you know, to be quite Frank, Stephen, I think that there's a lot of pressure on the general manager after he was gone to now, you know, show that they can be successful with this new head coach in Adam gays and with the move that he's making now so they needed to you know, make splash on offense. That will help propel a Sam darnold and this team to win. Now in terms of a lady on Bell's desire to sort of reset the running back market, which is something that he was talking about even before sitting out this season with the way that the running about contracts with dropping when you look at devante Freeman to the eight and a half millions and a long time ago from when Adrian Peterson helps set the Mark I think in two thousand eleven with Chris Johnson at around thirteen fourteen million a year. He wanted to reset the market. And when you look at the fact that what is it Todd Gurley had about fourteen fourteen and a half. There's contract doesn't really exceed that. And then when you look at the value of the franchise tag being fourteen it doesn't really exceed that. So I think from when you're looking at the numbers, it appears I haven't seen the contract myself. But just from what the reports are saying, it appears it's below that Mark. But where he wins is the fact that he gets a multi-year deal. The franchise tag is one one year he was betting on not wanting to get injured app to inhibit himself from getting more longevity. So lay the on bell wins with the longevity portion of it from the initial look of the reports, he's not necessarily winning with crossing the bars that were already out there would've plays around the league saying the you about the Pittsburgh Steelers are refusing to Darren t Levy on bell. They wouldn't franchise tag him again. Obviously that rub him the wrong way losing Antonio Brown. The way. Way that they did what did they say about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Is is like lissi. Let's see how it looks. Now. Let's see how juju, you know, performs without having the benefits of you know, and Tonio ground opposite him. Yup. Taking the attention of the defense. Let's see how Ben Rothlisberger performs without, you know, the kind of ballet art form that Antonio Brown has with you know, getting both of his feet. You know, tapped in you know, before coming out and bailing them out on certain throws. What you're hearing is. Let's see how it looks without those two. Let's just see. See how they perform Josephina Anson keep up the great work. Thank you so much. You're gonna be NFL. Are you going to be on NFL off today at all? Yet. We have our special coming up believe from like four to six thirty or so so we will be on right after sportscenter goes off to doing a great job that you've always been doing Joe CNN sin. Appreciate you so much. Thank you. Thank you prepay to equally have the one and only Joe see the analyst Anderson NFL analyst NFL reporter extraordinaire right here with Steven ale. ESPN radio. ESPN news doesn't outstanding job gets a lot of exclusives. Get to share information without question knows what's going on in the National Football League doesn't outstanding job for the family. Really, really? Appreciate her edited say ESPN eight seven two three seven seven six. Let me go to the phones because I want I see my man Caulton on the line. And I wanted to get his thoughts on NFL free agency as well. Call to the line is yours, buddy. How you doing? My thoughts are the giants. The Steelers day winners in this contrary to all conventional wisdom, and that MAC made a lesson and cap dynamic max Kellerman on your show. How is it? I think that the giants went in this. Okay. Stephen, I would you rather have Djibril peppers a darn good safety, and you got him for another two years at less than two million dollars per year. That's less than three less than three. But go ahead. I think it's less than two. It's one fourth. I thought they said it was a little over two. I thought he said, but that's neither here nor there. But go ahead. Okay. Your draft pick that you're gonna have to pay at seventeen seventeen points in the first round that you're gonna have to pay a little more than three per year over four years. Plus, you got your option, right? Another ten million dollars to go out and find either a free agent or or pay that to a guy that you're going to have to restructure his contract, if you trade from anywhere between now, and you know, when the trade deadline in October whenever it is this you would you have to have those three players or those three potential slot on a disgruntled wide receiver at fifteen million park. That's that's the remaining cash that they all over the that put it that way. Call to you're right. But if you put it this way where you're literally paying them because he's sixteen million dead money. You literally paying him to be somewhere else. Other people choose to look at it that way, but the money was paid. That's what they paid him for laugh year, Steven A, and the fact that the giants were MAC got the whole Antonio thing. Ron he said multiple times a couple of days that the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying by the Oakland Raiders, you know, that's not. It's not they're not paying one time. Oakland have to pay the entire potential fifty four million with incentives to end Tonio Brown. So many people all three years. The Pittsburgh Steelers. Didn't pop amortize pass salaries. That's what it did cap. It doesn't seem to understand that. Okay. So how do the Pittsburgh Steelers win? They get to twelve players off their roster and clear a whole bunch of Vic. Because it here's my problem with just an obvious things you act like any player that has a businessman talented is bad news. If you're Levy on bell. I do understand. He was suspended twice. I do understand the durability was a question because he got injured once or twice, but you act like a guy that's making a business decision to be paid as market value is a problem. I don't find that to be a problem that I've used. On that to be a problem that I've you said Antonio Brown was a problem. Because of how kids are is. He was willing to be because he wanted out all of a sudden he's a Big Ben under the bus. Well, he's throwing Tomlin under the bus or he's throwing ownership or the GM under the bus. That's different Levy unbelted and do any of those things he simply held out for what he believed his market value was that's not a problem child. Levian bell in his final four is playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, actually that includes stuff start a weapon messed up the start of their fees and four years twice with this bench twice with all Bing out levian Bill with absent playoff three out of his final four years playing against the patriot. And went out, you know. You know, I think early on in the first quarter with an injury. He was injured three out of four years. Levian bell wanted seventeen million dollars idea. I feel is he ends up getting twelve and a half and missing I year at fourteen five. Lemme on bell won. This thing is beyond me. Absolutely beyond me. He'll cook fourteen and a half. We don't even know how much about thirty five Darren Tate, his real guarantees because these agents they love to throw these figures for guarantees, but a Water Filter guarantees if he's on the rock, but I can tell you this. But I can tell you this Levy bell was assigned of the deal unless that thirty five million dollars guaranteed. We don't even know if the thirty five is real Stephen. I'll bet you. I'll bet you dollars to known it part of that if they pay assuming you've you're on the rocks on the Wasser in either two thousand twenty or two thousand and twenty one I'll bet you thirty five is not guaranteed a front in totality. I know because all the details out I'll Becca that's the case. Now, the is made a smart move because they didn't give up squat again. Antonio basically gonna have to eat the thirty million and he won't play for them. You know? To see a family losing. And he's not eating as toner. That's. That's going to go down and say midseason this coming season, it'll be older junior. If the Cleveland, I mean, if the Cleveland Boone's on on winning the. Bill. He to worry about being injured for the plant because they late making definitely agree with that last plot. But I think that in Cleveland Odell Beckham Judy got a chance to make the players will Baker Mayfield. Jarvis Landry with Kareem hunt with Nick shovelnose, boys. And that defense, I definitely think that they got a chance to make the place, but we'll see call. I gotta run man. Thank you so much for the call. I get your perspective. And I appreciate it. It eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. 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What's up saving talk to me, man? What's up? All right. We can talk about del real quick. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. All right, man. Here's what I want to say that every giant fan out there, you know, especially the mashed Komen 'cause watching him in the morning, I even have my coffee. I was about to smash TV to the four. So here's what I wanna stay mashed come in and everybody every joint say needs to hold the break. I love Bill. The talent is undeniable everybody can see that. But here's the issue. You will never win a Super Bowl. If you're meaningful on the team is the wide receiver, especially if he is a diva like Oto Beckham. Hey, Antonio Bray bass my man champs sent me a note. I didn't read it until like an hour ago. But he was absolutely right. He said the only receive it. It's got a championship attached to him as Jerry, Jerry Rice, the only marquee. He said from Larry FitzGerald, Chris Carter, tool dub ek junior, Terrell Owens. The Randy moss to list goes on and on the. Only elite wide receiver to have Super Bowls, Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. Of course, Michael Irvin's got three Michael Irvin, and Jerry Rice. That's it. Yeah. And here's the thing. And and old l great catches breaking records breaking yard records. You know with with the quarterback that can barely walk. My grandmother can pass better than this point. And he's doing all this stuff. It's beautiful. We make the playoff. What does he do? He choked. Even if mitt dropping pass after pass when it comes down through the most he was a no show, we need to you know, we got rid of him. We got your vote. He's not upgrade on safety. We can say we stayed the same. But what we're doing is. We're we're starting over we have fake on Barclay elite. Or the guy is what twenty one years old twenty three years old. He's a leader. He's the Beverly than ever be. Okay. He doesn't complain. We're starting festival, you know, where we are paying for two years basically play for Baker Mayfield. But he's he's out so awesome. And I understand that you you mentioned this if somebody wants his money that doesn't mean he's bachelor locker room, but that wasn't about his. Money that wants to be the face. If what happens if we draft the Ford or back a young quarterback that's developing and what happens if he doesn't pass although the ball more than other words, you dick. So it's other words, you're perfectly, okay. With them. Let go of Odell Beckham junior. Yes. Especially we're about to get a new quarterback. Goal more than six times. Even you need somebody to throw the ball. But call man, thank you so much in you need somebody that don't football. There's no question about that. And I think that makes it receive a happy when it got. So by complain the football. That's just me. Let's go to Freddie, Alava. Stephen. It was, Freddie. Doing very, I'm right talk to me. Yes. The right is right. It's gonna be very interesting just season because they made some good moves. So what you think about that the raiders? Yeah. You gotta Antonio Brown. That's definitely a plus. You're trying to find out what their cars made of. That's definitely something. That's a plus too. I see the raiders win and mortar four games this year. No. I don't I don't. I don't see it Antonio Brown having him as a very very big deal. No question about it toward he knows Jerry cooking those boys, but we're gonna find out about Derek Carr. I think that's the good news. But when you look at the division first of all the division. They're in the lone Kansas City LA a right and Denver really you think that the raiders are now better than those teams. It'd be a blessing. If the race have like a winter season, you know, like when where eighty eight that'd be a blessing before before say, we'll see appreciate the call man showing you lava Stephen they talked to me, Sean. Thank you even got a question for you. With the giants have six pick in the seventeenth pitch to take twin Hess is at the six and get a water. She went to seventeenth or trade up and try to ensure the win Haskins early in the dress. Well, personally speaking, I think the priority has to be secure into Wayne Askins. Gotta get yourself quarterback. Man. You gotta get yourself quarterback. You cannot go into this season. Relying look in the reliant ally. Manning the play all sixteen games. This should be it for ally. Manning, this should be no coming back from this. That's just the way I feel about it. I really really do. Thanks for the call and shut up boys. Which man this? All right, man. Take it easy. One year. You lava Stephen eight what's up. What's going on even they just, you know, I'm a big fan of yours. I I'm asking. So you know, HEC you pride and all that. But I wanna just talk about the old L Beckham trade, you know, in my opinion. I think it was a good trade for both sides. You know, I definitely feel like, you know, the giants get another first round pick. You know, the guy before be talking about maybe train up. I was talking about. Maybe trader begin column Murray, you know, adding some excitement to the New York City, you know, what saquon I think they could do some big things. And then obviously with the Browns again Nobel, you know, top five receiver, you know, everyone's talking about the diva dot com. Just the price you pay with. I don't think you move up to number one to get column Murray. I don't think Arizona's going to let you do that. But I definitely think that you. I personally believe the the raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the fourth and fifth pick respectively. Both standing in the way of the New York Giants. I don't believe for one second that it's a definitive decision on the part of Oakland Tampa as of right now that they won't draft a quarterback. I think it's entirely plausible that one of them could potentially draft Haskins because I think both Derek Carr and Jameis Winston question marks. And because they're question marks. I think it's entirely plausible that that that the raiders or the bucks could elected draft a quarterback. Why you're the giants you need to be prepared to do what it takes to move up. If necessary if that's your guy. And also I just want to kind of talk about I think the team that's kinda doing the radars is the Packers. You know? I think the type is getting Smith from the ravens linebacker and then getting Adrienne Amos from the bears. You know, Stacey. I think they're kind of making some moves as well. As far as you know, probably giving Aaron Rodgers the defense. I know you're a big Aaron Rodgers fan. Yes. I. Gamma Rogers, the baddest man on the planet and the more weapons he has the Mary I would've loved to see Levy on Bello Antonio Brown with him. 'cause I think he's that big time. He's that legit. The flip side to it. However is that I'm just not not sure of the moves that the Green Bay Packers have made it whether or not that's gonna really really elevate them. But I think Aaron Rogers are so gifted he'll find a way to make him to the players so long as he's able to stay healthy for sixteen games. Are they if that's the case Aaron Rodgers will find a way absolutely last at least I'm I'm a huge eagles fan. So what do you think applies to move? I love it. I love it. Because I love the fact that an approximately less about practically an hour and a half, it'd be officially that the showing Jackson is there when Nelson Agla without Sean, Jeffrey, I'm looking at the eagles wizards would search Zakar rather. And got it got it got hurt. I just I just believed that they're too tight ends along with their receiving are enough to offset what atoms or. Smaller than anybody else. Can't give you at the running back spot. I think as long as costing and wins stays healthy. Because now the Nick foles is going to Jacksonville with eighty eight million over four years fifty million and guarantees now that he's gone. I think it's I think that the priority is to do everything you can keep Carson Wentz healthy and in order for the eagles to be successful. It is clear they're going to have to throw the football. Which means that the offensive line has to show up and protect Carson Wentz. So he could stay upright and healthy for the duration of the season. If that happens, I think the eagles could make some noise if that doesn't happen. I think they're toast, playing a simple. I gotta run though. Thank you, Leonard. You live Stephen what's up. Steven was good minor guy. Quick thing about OD thing is without back. I'm like why? By acting this down under stand that Cleveland is still Cleveland. Like, Freddie kitchens. Who was Freddie kids? Stephen. I I don't rhyme. Ryan. That's. Missile fees. That's my question. Mark about the Browns. I've got faith in their defense. And I even have faith in their personnel from land judo del Beckham junior the job and Kareem hunt in the backfield. With Baker Mayfield. I got faith in them. They gave up Zeitler who's are pretty damn good tight end to Buffy your defensive line. They gave him Zeitler to the New York. Giants. We'll have to wait and see how that materializes, but I'm not sold on, Freddie, kitchen jet. I'm like everybody keep making look Beckham we know tobacco in this top three Julio Antonio Brown. Beckham pick whichever one all I'm saying is is their mind. This dude was the QB. Coach got promoted after Hugh got got correct now, we act in his if like, you know, he won't be able to come in there. Greg Williams did a great job with their team Harry by order. You know, unfortunately, he got that combustible attitude so they had to get him up out of that. But all the same. I mean, I'm just not sold on him. The job is low Beckham love to and Baker stood. But mine I own I like. Like, I like the play his but more so than most team sports coaching is pivotal and paramount in football is everything. And if you're coaches staff, a ready to roll, if you're coaching staff can necessarily get a done for you. I'm just not that hot. I really really just not that high on on on on Cleveland as of yet. And it's not to not kitchens. He might very well ended up being very very good coach but being a coordinator or quarterback, so positional coach is entirely entirely different than being that headman. So I'm not sold on it by any stretch of the imagination. I think there's still something to prove. And also, we have to keep in mind. Baker Mayfield play ball last year when five or three in their last eight games. I get it. You know, what the flip side is they now see him come in this film on his brother. They know. He's coming. They know what he brings to the table. And this is a National Football League. So whenever you saw from Baker Mayfield in in season one. Let's see if we don't see that in two I'm happy for the the Cleveland fan base. Because God knows they've had nothing. About particularly when it comes to the Browns who hasn't made the postseason since two thousand and two, but we gotta wait and see that's just where I'm at with it. I gotta run and I appreciate the call eight say ESPN gotta get on outta here. Get to the break before we get on outta here for the day. You listen to live just leaving ESPN radio. ESPN news about away. If you missed any of the show today. Go check it out on demand in the Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking or for an accounts with no fees minimums that can be opened at five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet? Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting dole living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting Dole's. 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But he's got to be very careful 'cause on to see another mouse at the pals like the hand in that way, back in two thousand ten happy. You know, you gotta be careful. Justifies which is why justifies the finding them twenty five thousand dollars. Exactly, exactly. But I just wanted to just be careful yet skin peop-, the people. They're not working. They are not worth all the not Russell. Russell Westbrook is really good guy. Man. He's a really good guy. You know? I mean, just because he does a smile and hugging sink kun-bae yada, the opposition to the fans or whatever doesn't make him a bad guy. He doesn't bother anybody doesn't get into it with anybody. He's he doesn't deserve that deserved it. He just does not deserve that playing the simple period. Appreciate your call, man. Dion alava. Stephen go ahead, real quick. The on. This is Bill from New Jersey. I just wanted to say that I do understand that he's a good guy. But he might be a good. God bless you have bad people out there. So he just has to develop like a sticker skin when comes onto these things that they will never change. This is just a society that we live in bad. Yeah. But this is just a society. He just has to develop a thicker skin as well as the others and just play back people and do what they love because that's just what it is. And you know, what it is unfortunate. But it's a problem. But in the same breath, you know, if a little kid taps him and support he doesn't need to turn around and and and have much of a problem. Sometimes you just gotta know how to let certain things go and save your venom and hostility for those who truly truly deserve. It. You got one guy, you know, older older white guy. Philadelphia standing up and pointing the middle finger at and stuff like that just inexcusable stuff from grown people. It's just really really really unfortunate that it is. But I want him to keep his cool because we cannot have another instance like the palace at Auburn Hills. 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Packers Stifle Bears, Antonio Brown is Trippin and Will Jalen's Lions Roar in Week 1?

Jalen and Jacoby

27:51 min | 2 years ago

Packers Stifle Bears, Antonio Brown is Trippin and Will Jalen's Lions Roar in Week 1?

"Jalen and jacoby worried about the strong probably the he is jalen anthony raw dow. I'm david jacoby on doku check-in cerna stage on and we put it on wax. It's reggie hit the brakes. Start your show. Shall oh reggie reggie. Give a guy who was as all we're brag. Oh bradford whereas chris bradford. Give a gosh days off. The people wanna football. They got football last night. There was an actual n._f._l. Game and let's be honest. It was pretty boring. The packers defense kinda dominated. They pressured mitchell trubisky seventeen times. The bears only scored three points in the entire contest contest jalen. What did you think of this game last night. My initial thoughts is the lions have a chance to win the division in in all seriousness. That was not what i was thinking it was opening weekend and for those that have not been paying attention. Ah football has evolved over the past few decades. The importance of the preseason has become minimize to the point. We have a kyla murray. That's five nine the first guy at his height getting draft number one overall. He has a coach. That's the first time <hes> n._f._l. Head coach who didn't do so well in college that's instituting a new offense and they don't think that the preseason is important enough for them to run their place so for the buffalo supporter green bay packers and the chicago bears i told you yesterday i'm looking that money-making mitch last year twenty four touchdowns twelve sessions last night game deciding interception late near struggle when he passes over thirty five times that has become a train trim so yes you want to give the packers defense a lot of credit the people they picked up a free agency had an impact last couple of draft picks had an impact packed their defence aaron rodgers pedestrian but i'm looking at mitchell trubisky. That's the thing that stands out to me from yesterday's gay. Is this a trend. Can this guy in the league to be a franchise quarterback enough well. A lot of people were focused on trubisky's poor performance. We got some sound about that after the game. Let's listen <hes> uh-huh definitely feel like a lot of my teammates down the fans number. Which was the way i played and i could have done better. We wanted to make mitch play quarterback. We knew they had a lot of weapons. We knew they were dangerous. We know we knew all of those things. Were we knew if we can make mitch play quarterback that we'll have a chance and plus. We got some new toys upfront to who did the job affront the good so they did they did they knew if we could make mitch play quarterback that we would have a chance that sounds disrespectful misreading this he alluded. It's a my point when he throws over thirty five times. The bears have struggled in his early career. They didn't want him to be able to be via. Guy that was able to hand the ball off or defense continue to score points for them. They wanted to office have to drive inmate plays and convert convert and put the ball in the end zone and how many times did the bears doodad in yesterday's game exactly zero times. The bears did score three points. Something chicago fans know is very important as their friend cody parkey will show you but watch what's the reaction after this made field goal to give the bears at three nothing leave soldier field absolutely bonkers just because a made field goal. Did you enjoy that moment as much as yes i did i did but i want to have a teaching point. That's really crucial so's other chicago bears. There's always a time when the team doesn't have expectations of masses talent. Get expectations as now there's a pressure i sure to not only live up to those expectations but exceed their their head coach matt nagy in his post game interview. He was really disgusted about the office only scores three points but there's a fine line between being disappointed and filling light dave arrived and for those that have been paying attention. They have it just yet. Though i just wanna make sure that everybody's he's managing the fact that let's not over inflate what we feel like last year to this team. They brought on khalil mack. They're going to have an elite defense. We know that they're going to have a consistent run game. We gotta see what's going to happen with their wide receivers. We you still need to know it. Trubisky is going to be a franchise level quarterback so in the first quarter it was cute to cheer sarcastically with the field goal kicker made the made the kicked because that costs you to game last year but who would have known that be the only point states. I'd ah the that'd be the only points that would be scored jalen. I've is a serious question for you did last night's poor performance both offenses. Give you a little hope for your detroit detroit. Lions trying to tell you here's what's gonna and a half allies are going to come out. Look really good this weekend. Matthew staffer go turn around hand the ball the kerryon johnson twenty five or thirty thirty times. He's gonna rush like one hundred and thirty five yards he go cash for like fifty out of the backfield is scored two touchdowns and if people are gonna be like you know what the lions could win the division. I see this every year from our hometown team week one. It's great to be alliance fan now. It's time for a character. We have on the show general manager jalen. It's g._m. Jalen jim jalen. We need you for this one yesterday. There were reports of a skirmish a kerfluffle a little mix up. Hold me back moment between star receiver for the raiders antonio brown and g._m. Mike mayock this comes in the wake of antonio brown posting the letter that max sent him with the fines lines on it. Now the word is that the raiders plan on suspending antonio brown g._m. Jalen what is more important. If you are mayock doc do you suspend him. Do you send a message about discipline and behavior to your team or do you need to win and you wanna put your receiver out there. This is easy the fam i'm i'm so i'm suspended him and in boxing. They have wake classes. Mom would think that might make is probably twenty five and thirty years colder antonio brown so i don't see that necessarily being a fair fight for goddess professionally playing in the n._f._l. That's in the kind of shape shape that he is that just wants to go and possibly physically assault the team general manager. Just cut a check. It gave up thirty a million potential guaranteed dollars. I suspend him game one. Here's why now i finally get the leverage back. He's had all of the leverage right remember. He was gonna go to miami. We stepped up and we paid them regardless so what was going back and forth but pittsburgh is it then spot is it mike tomlin spot all right. Now we bring them on frost by issue is what it it was the helmet issue we know about that now. All of a sudden you not practicing now all of a sudden you missing walk-throughs europe europe posting professional content. The team has sent you on social media for fifty fifty plus thousand dollar fine. You have all the power. Guess what i have the fine print of the contract and g._m. Jalen sees that if he's he's not present for week one i can boy potential leader remaining guarantees of his contract and so yes you see him wearing a raiders jersey in the helmet a little bit in the preseason. I paid him a grand total of zero dollar so far so i want to suspend him for week one so now i get the power back and if something happens in the future that we can't see i i did. I get from that money easily. No question about it well mic mac of the raiders and antonio brown's agent drew. Rosenhaus both had something to say about this issue. Let's listen to those too short. If we antonio brown's not in the building today won't be practicing <hes>. I don't have any more information for you right now and when i have some and it becomes appropriate you guys would all get it. I promise you but that's it for today. Antonio right now is working very hard to get everything resolved weakened team without suspension. Hopefully being able to come back practice and play as soon as possible in tonio is looking forward to putting all this stuff behind him <hes> he wants to play football. He wants to play football for the raiders right now. We want him to have a good relationship with jon. Gruden mike mayock back his teammates played football be the best football player that he can possibly been addition to those comments. Our colleague josina anderson is also reporting that there was some very pointed language and insults used from antonio brown towards mayock jalen. Could this escalate and lead to the end of a relationship between brown and the raiders so here's what just happened again. Let's play poker for the team. That's gonna be in vegas next season. <hes> tonio hat all the all season leverage when g._m. Jalen suspends him for game one. I now have the leverage because i can then voight the remaining aiming money that he's guaranteed the next couple of years if he don't show up we want being suspended so now yes. I would definitely make sure i'd do that jalen. This is all very interesting. Do you think he will actually play football for the raiders. This season is got to be something. That's therapeutic. I i always pay attention to scenarios like this and i look deeper into the box score. Drew rosenhaus is doing an amazing job representing the best interest of this client and intern. He's gonna eventually get three percent if antonio brown does get whatever shares of this month but but the problem here jacoby is the agent is talking not the player. That's the true issue. All of the things that drew saying you will i love to hear antonio and so whether i suspend him or not if he is not saying that that allows me to go further further with acknowledging that i need to suspend him so that now i can't put myself in a position to get from under the money in the future jalen is telling they want football's back. Everybody and there's just some things that go along with football season that i love so much some of the sights and sounds and smells someone who played football the smell the grass the crisp of the fall air the smell of buffalo wings things just some hot wings and beer. I love football so much and there's also an iconic image that goes right along with football and that is the goodyear blimp for sixty sixty years. The goodyear blimp has fueled greatness on the gridiron by providing aerial coverage of some of the most legendary moments in college football history when the goodyear blimp rises above a stadium and inspires players to retire hire and rise to the challenge of the game's biggest moments and now it's your turn to go further with goodyear discover tires made to rise above the rest learn more good your dot com goodyear hear more driven. The seasons are changing gave some new tires. Get yourself. Some goodyear tyres. Geico presents aches another voicemail from your roommate jeffrey me. Hey a piper's in the basements completely flooded anyway. I call for someone to fix it but in the meantime i was thinking we finally have that indoor pool party. We will always wanted. I got him coolest wine. Floaty things already go and could you pick up some chips on your way home later. The geico insurance agency can help keep your personal property protected like if you'll roommate isn't the bright his pool float in the flooded basement visit geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance jalen rose ezekiel elliott paid if you're going to play for the cowboys this weekend as as they take on the giants and not only gonna get a ninety million dollar contract from jerry jones also got a little gift. Jerry jones gave him a zeke who t-shirt everyone's laughing now because they made a deal but do you think this negotiation. This holdout could leave residual hard feelings between ezekiel elliott and the franchise judge. I think that relationship will continue to thrive. He's going to be happy being a member of the cowboys race. He's gonna be a terrific running back for the team. Let's see if they could go ahead and get back murray sign but underbelly of what took place. I don't want go over. People's heads basically with jerry jones. Just did is one of the things why players now in particular in the n._b._a. and the n._f._l. Bill are trying to make sure that we stopped using the term owners because would he basically did was i'm big bank bank eventually not only are we going to agree to a deal but i'm going to show everybody that would i said about z. Who nope. I'm still the power player. Remember when zeke was upset about it. Hey off now. Look at this picture. I got him holding his shirt with fifty a million dollars in guarantee so i win so that's really what took place in this scenario in my opinion that's observation. Mr rose one of the things that i look forward to observing. This weekend is the matchup between the rams and the panthers what we see from cam newton. What will we see from todd gurley who had some knee problems at the end of last season when asked about girlies effectiveness in bill ability this weekend. Here's what sean mcvay had to say. I think there's a curiosity of an excitement and anticipation on just getting a chance. The play football and you know rolled out there and see see how we look. The guys are excited but i'm excited to see todd gurley. You know continue to do his thing and he looks good. He's feeling own good and we're looking forward to sunday. Jake expect to see the todd gurley from the beginning of last season or the end of last season in week. One what kind of football this the sean mcveigh say he can't wait to play real football. Exactly the preseason is getting less and less s. important by the years september has now become the new preseason exhibition. I'm worried about todd gurley. Long-term and fantasy hennessy owners are as well because if he was as healthy as he was for the majority of last year he wouldn't have fail drafts so people saw the trend tape. Hey place they saw anderson gate carries late even in the super bowl fourteen that ultimately got be down by the new england patriots so now you understand it. They're gonna be managing his low the entire way because his knee issue has shown to be severe so hopefully he can go back and being a really productive wanted a top vaccine the game type of type of player because that's what they're going to need if the rams plan to win the n._f._c. clearly clearly it is now time for statue. Jalen rose loves a lot of things one of those things. Statue statues are very important to mr rose and we have a statue update. One of the most statute arenas is the staple center. There's about ten statues out there and there is now going to be rumors of a planned lisa leslie statute that would make her the first female to have a statue outside the staple center jalen. Where do you think they should put it. What do you think should look like senior statue analysts. That's really awesome awesome and for us being around the same age is planned in the same era. She has always been a groundbreaking player in in women's basketball whether you look at what she was able to accomplish on the floor with the championships and the gold medals also you just showed <unk> her first dunk as she's always handle herself what elegance and class this is what has now allowed us to celebrate and truly appreciate appreciate her so i think this is an amazing honor for her to guate- staple center i think the illustration of her should be donkey because she was the first one in the n._b._a. Game to do so senior. Statue analysts jalen rose while i have you elect to discuss another female athlete that deserves a statue. Serena williams will be in the u._s. Open final over the weekend and if she wins she will tie margaret court for twenty four grand slam titles twenty four grand slam titles serena williams is deserving of a statue right now while she's still is playing catch analysts jalen rose. Where should her statue be in what it should. It look like all this is easy. Another woman who handles herself with grace shout to queen latifah shape the love and the e._s._p._n. Forty year tribute shout out. I believe that her statute should be of her incredible serve. They gets up to a hundred and twenty miles an hour at times. How about that okay. I look and the location should should be at the most prestigious place that they play tennis in the united states of america in front of the u._s. So that's where it should be. Jalen rose week one of the n._f._l. Is finally here and no one articulates the excitement and passion that we have for this momentous momentous occasion better than bill belgium football season and all the things i like football league football season and all the things that go with it. One of the things that goes with it is jalen rose previewing the weekend full of action not just in the n._f._l. But all over the world of sports in thirty seconds on the clock for each event. Are you ready ready. Mr rose last get it. I you text us this morning and said you want to talk about the chiefs and the jaguars. Why were you so fired up in this game two rows where along with all within the league on fire i the starting quarterback dula threat fifty touchdowns but his worst game against the jacksonville jaguars no ramsey's looking at a big deal. He's going to get a pick in this game name. The jacksonville jaguars gonna win at home. Wow big upset prediction from jalen rose. That's exciting next. I'm fired up to watch the titans and the browns. I really wanna see what baker mayfield and odell beckham junior and this new look brown's offense can do would expect to see in this game. The browns have heightened expectations and rightfully salt. Let's see maker mayfield can start to resemble a franchise quarterback still have jarvis landry you bring in odell beckham junior who is really explosive one of the best in again. Let's see if they turn it into a track. Meet at cleveland versus versus the titans when they win by fourteen jalen. You will probably be one of the only people i know watching this game. The cardinals and the lions can cuyler ed murray and the air raid offense. Take out the lines. No no no we get a real. It is first game and they're learning a new system yet. Those two people know a himmy kingsbury. Everybody else's learning it for the first time pretty much ongoing with the lions kerryon johnson a hundred and thirty five yards rushing fifty yards catching out of the backfield in two touchdowns team u._s._a. Is out of the group stage in the second round they take on greece and yanni's can jaanus beat team usa on on saturday morning. Oh no ono they struggle recently when he wasn't able to get layups and dunks in this tournament ornament team u._s._a. Is going to do a great job of bottling up the greek freak. I'm gonna wake up early and watch team u._s._a. Win this game by a lease pipped the michigan wolverines take on army over the weekend. Will the wolverines get the win flew salute to the army. My brother served approximately ten years from michigan beat the brakes off them wolverines bat twenty one move. It's twenty one. Oh god i cannot wait for our show on monday after the wolverines lose two army. I'm about to air you out right now. Jalen rose we have a colleague called nicholas tut's king tut's and you sent him and kayla to buy the entire hire staff popeye's spicy chicken sandwiches a very nice thing of you to do so they went there to the popeye's came back with like thirty chicken sandwiches right and you sent them to go get it. They paid for it. This was two weeks ago and you have not paid them back. I'm i suggested that he the enlist the services of jackson to get his money back from you. I would have to say about not paying back your colleagues that you sent to popeye's chicken did they spent over one hundred dollars on chicken and you took all the credit for delivering the chicken but you didn't pay for the chicken well. It isn't about the credit because food is a labor of love in my life and anytime that i frequent places whether professionally or personally you fool always becomes a part of the dynamic because my labors of low <unk> make sure everybody get a chance to eat good so the bottom line. Is you owe touch someone last seven to ten days. I've been in front of touch a grand total of one time. You didn't pay him when i see him again on monday the three hundred thirty dollars he will get thirty dollars. We saw we got. We got we got we got we got so this is a life skill that i want all of the listeners to pay attention to i- jalen rose and out of the kindness of my heart has been my time energy and money hundred times is the number. I'm gonna put out there to try to make sure i get a chance to feed others. The person i am trying to air me out has done it a grand total of how many house zero times what else haven't done. I haven't said someone to go get chicken than not. Pay them back either. I've done zero times too well. They're adults in eight it number one number two. You are telling part of the story. Kayla was ordering it via her uber app with my credit card. It got canceled twice because of the popeye's chicken craze they would not allow her to do that many or or for whatever reason i was in the studio doing a show with you. I did not realize that they left to go. Get the food. So i came out of the studio. They were coming back with the foo told me uh-huh by the way yeah three hundred thirty dollars a done deal gotcha morris go but what's that got to do it you. I'm trying to figure that part out shows called jalen and jacoby right. Jalen rose owes one of our colleagues money money so i just feel like we need to talk about it. We didn't take you behind the curtain on who you really are yeah. You will buy us food often more than anybody else. I've ever work with but you will not pay back your call. Here's nobody listen you. Let fifty money until him fifty percents. Here's the life skill everybody to pay attention to. There shouldn't be at all actually it. It actually trying to set a trend for my colleagues who for the last ten years in caught the memo and ain't nobody else even consider senator doing it once no. I'm not thank you so much for tuning into jalen and jacoby this friday afternoon in joy. We'll be back on monday. We could shows next week. Thank you was okay guys. I love bollock airbus my nipples seriously.

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"Wait a lot going on ton gone on for Thursday absolutely we got an NFL game going on yeah. We Got Doc Rivers Talking Yeah Doc rivers go to Seattle but how where's your concern level on Kenley Jansen after last night his eighth blown safe he. We thought he'd ACTA very shakes. Yes us when we thought we were out. He pulls us back again. It is so weird 'cause yesterday I had all those numbers about Kenley Jansen and in September and how good he has been six appearances allowing just one run during those six appearances allowing just two hits during those six appearances seven strikeouts a win in three saves and then last night blows the save. My concern level is back to scale of one to ten. What is it it is? It's a good solid seven again. I'm nine Greg. I'm definitely at a seven as well. It's it's seven yeah Tony Threes. He's wait a minute if the playoffs started today if there's a playoff game tonight yes wouldn't you much rather see Joe Kelley Kenley Jansen get the ball in the ninth inning correct. That's that's a nine at this moment yeah yeah you guys are nine just or no yeah but he look he he had been on a really good run right then on a really good run but I don't know if we can give him credit for that anymore. The play offs starting to we cut near the four seamer every can good one of these looking good statue. Give me I'll give you one like he's. He's never had this many blown saves and look. I never had this high of an era cutting icy. I think it is all very very dicey. See and I think you know if there's one thing to be concerned about you earlier this week. I said well maybe cody bellinger tailing off as a reason for concern now the reason for concern is definitely still Kenley only Janson. He just hasn't been right consistently this year despite getting off to a good start in September. How much do you put into it that he pitched the night before Org got a four out save on a back to back? Let me say playoffs that that could happen but I'm tired of four out saves. There's no reason for Kenley Jansen how to throw a four out save at this point. He is a one inning guy. I'm not looking to Kenley Jansen for four outs anymore. That is very very 2017. Dave Roberts I emma ma I it's like you guys are not noticing. You're saying I'm not going to throw a bucket of water on the fire and the entire ranches on fire I would we do not use Kenley Jansen period. Oh no you've got to use Kenley Jansen why you because he still is a high leverage arm Kenley Jansen can still be effective. There is something to be said for back to back as do I expect him to save every game in the postseason this year maybe not is there a number. He's now eight blown saves. which is an all time? I'm hype for right. Is there a number he would hit like I assume they're still gonNA keep giving him the ball in the regular season just to figure it out if those two or three more are you all out two or three remorse saves is probably unrealistic. He's not gonNA blow three saves in the final what eight nine nine games three times in the last night I think that's that's really unlikely whether even if he converts his next three saves I still am going to have a level of concern about Kenley Jansen and there's and there's no way around it. I mean you know for as has good his he was coming into last night's performance he just has had a wildly inconsistent season and I'm telling you we are going to hold our breath a lot during ninth innings during this postseason and particularly ninth innings in one run games if something goes was down to the wire one hundred percent right and here's the thing the other thing is I would have an arm behind Kenley Jansen. If Kenley Jansen puts two runners on in the ninth inning I would have an arm behind behind him ready to go. I would not be afraid to pull Kenley Jansen from a save appearance. If it's a one run game and he puts two runners on you're absolutely right and they should and last night they had pedro buyers ready. They did not have to go to to Kenley Jansen again on the second day WHOA. I'm glad they went to because I wanna see what we've got. That's what they're doing. They're trying find things out right now. They're experimenting. They're seeing if they can pitch Kenley on back to back night. Obviously you can't yeah and and maybe just can't throw him in back to back nights anymore. Maybe it's Pedro. Why is it gets a say? Maybe it's Joe Kelly gets to save. Maybe it's who gets a safe at this point. I'M A B K Anybody Kenley. Bring somebody else in can't be anybody but can lead yeah well. I still got to believe in Kenley otherwise this season if they will go as far Kelly turns into closer they're fine. They will go as far as Kenley. Jansen can take take them again. If that means he he can't carry them that means they aren't going to get there the other side of that is we've seen this movie. We know he's blown a career high eight saves. We know what happened when he puts him in his cutter's not cutting somebody else. Why do you have to marry yourself to that predicament? You just created a big because at that point you you're better off just leaving them off the postseason postseason roster altogether and then you'll be on the postseason roster Garcia's the first series. He'll be on throughout the postseason. You're not gonNA leave Kenley Jansen. It's not the postseason roster and he's still going to get the ball in save situations i. I don't have any question about that. I just don't think his leash is long at all anymore. I agree that the the numbers that made throughout yesterday with how he's been in September actually do show a lot that he wasn't giving up a lot of hits he was using the four seamer and the slider and keeping guys off balance for the cutter so he continues to do that on one game situations where he's not pitching on back to back days. I think they'll be fine and he will be fine himself. It just depends on what you're GONNA do on those back to back nights to us by says. Do you use oriented. Yes you used gasoline. I mean they're going to put the guys in the situations so they can best success. I'll tell you the one thing that and to judge point the one thing that we cannot ignore is the Joe Kelley was unbelievable in last year's postseason the Red Sox he was he and Nathan were the reason why the red sox won the world series last year in terms of their pitching so I don't think we can sleep on Joe Kelley as is a gigantic contributor in this postseason because as the season has gone along he has gotten better and better. You know those really good seats that timing the SORTA sits in landmark Walter C see time by Mary Hart. I get one of those two Kenley Big Guy Right there cocktail so there is no no dodger game tonight so this debate will not move tonight. They open they since Araki's tomorrow what is happening tonight and this is a fascinating dilemma. Dilemma is into hours Yup the Jaguars host the titans on Thursday night football Josina Anderson who who covers the NFL for ESPN just tweeted this. I'm told Jalen. Ramsey is fine playing Thursday night football tonight but a source just told me he doesn't anticipate being a member of the jags by next Sunday crazy teams like Kansas City Baltimore tomorrow. Minnesota Oakland Philadelphia and Seattle have all made substantive inquiries but my understanding is almost every team has at least placed a call Yup all right so explain to me why play Jalen Ramsey if she's right and they're going to trade in the next ten days and by the way if he plays tonight he cannot like traded tomorrow in play for another team Sunday. You can only play in week two for one team so if he sets foot on the field tonight and plays that's it. He's done for week two. I don't get it if number one if he gets hurt you blow your trade yeah number number two. How is that not a distraction? Would you play him. I would not play them. You think they're gonNA you're an Owen to team. This is not your year and you want to preserve as much if you really hope to get and I don't think they will if you really we hope to get two first round draft picks. That's only going to help happen with a healthy jalen Ramsey because he's playing in his fifth year option. There's no guarantee you would have to sign item or franchise him after the season in order to keep them so it's going to be very difficult for them to get full value for Jalen Ramsey. The last thing you can afford Ford is for him to get hurt right now. It doesn't make any sense to me and I don't get here's here's another aspect to it. He got in a fight with Doug marrone the coach it was very public invisible and on TV the jags were the most disappointing team in the league last year and as you pointed out there off to an open to start this year. Are we sure they're backing the right guy. Is Moroni even gonNA beer. You're from now why trade Jalen Ramsey when you don't have to. Is it because you like you were saying you have to pay him if you keep them. I'm guessing that's what it is. You got to pay him if you so if you're going to the guy that much money you don't necessarily want to be tied. They had a chance to give him a contract. After this fourth year memory came up to camp brinks truck because he wanted to my fifth year option somebody initially give up here. I'm going to show up to Scott McCarthy. Here's brinks truck. You got a few years but neither one of us will be here by the time that thing but but it it it seems to me that that would be the hey if they play him yeah. It's one of the most head-scratching things really ever. It's really really where they truly do know that they're moving him because they don't WanNa pay him and they're gonNA move in the next two weeks. You can't play it's like when the Reds Ed's traded Yossi El Puig to the Indians this year and Yossi ELP. We stayed in the game for the fire. The trade was completed and got into a fight right right. It's like why risk the value once you know somebody is going to be moved doesn't make right if you've ever doubted the power of this show the power of Mason and Ireland. I doubt it everyday yesterday. Greg Bergman proclaimed something and then this morning it happened. It was unbelievable. Unbelievable actually was good time. It's like it's like they were listening in. They said Yep oh yeah. We can't keep that guy help. He's out. We'll explain lean coming up mason and Ireland. ESPN LA I coming up for you we are going to bet some mythical money today mythical money powered by HMS Capital don't gamble on your home loan rate let HMS Capital Compete to win you. The best home loan rates call eight three three to five five fifty six ninety eight or visit. HMS Capital Dot Com he of the Parlay Harley King Dunce cap gesture of parlays John Ireland has how many parlays this week this doing three starting with the game tonight eight. I'll lay the one out tonight because the pheasant coming on until five thirty kickoff so gregory right. Dan Goes at one thousand one thousand tonight. I'M GONNA go bigger over the weekend one thousand awesome tonight only a three team. We're going to pick up a little six K. to play with okay good good all right first half under nineteen point five okay okay Marcus Mariota under two hundred four point five two hundred four and a half yards passing okay he hasn't exceeded that in game and Leonard for net rushing attempts attempts under nineteen point five which he has has not hidden his last year getting funky with your pets. Yes Sir an easy way to Greg. I got a little offer for you okay can I can. I give my bets for tonight's game game tonight. I'm also going to do a par lay off. You guys would eventually come together. They're done with a real parlay. King is I'm going with. I knew you'd come to myself so I'm going to thousand on this an easy thirteen nine hundred thirteen K I'm going to go under nineteen and a half for the first half under thirty eight and a half for the entire game and Corey Davis under three reception and Scott it okay okay so those grants to keep things really simple yeah Gimme five K. on Tennessee minus the point and a half five krld wow you're given given points on the Road Yep. That's a bold play. Yes all right greg and I get a little offer for you okay. You and I have a bet we made it at the beginning of the season that the dodger catchers I would hit twenty five home runs at twenty four correct there in an unbelievable cold streak. They haven't hit any in in two and a half weeks. Yes yes so here's my offer but the Germans next week no. I'm not going to be here tomorrow. He's giving you a chance to win. We Orly not going to be here for part of next week. Oh boy so here's the offer. I'll give you five K. right now to get out of the bet. I'll just give it to to you. If you say no on Monday it drops to three Tuesday. It'll be two and on Wednesday. It'll it'll go down to one and then if you don't do it by next Wednesday it just we let it ride for ten. That's insanity. You're telling me yesterday he was going to be so I thought about I wanNA make it harder. I know I know if it was seven. I'll be like all right. I'll run. They're bound to hit a random need. I need the White Cay right now. I need the weekend no the point of clarification yes last night at the end of the Game Jazz Danny Yes will Smith who is technically the catcher right was on second base. Yes Russell Martin came into pinch as a catcher none of them what's Will Smith. He doesn't get to catchers in the same inning. Both players are identified as catchers Gosh but but wait a minute you're saying at that moment I know the Catcher of record in the game has got to be the guy gets the home run right. No it doesn't get to dodgers catchers it. The BET was dodger catcher one eighty five or more than run. I would argue that at that point in the game was we'll throw that at the Fed I would argue that he was a catcher I that he has no no no that is an actual of profit that that we could have made right so the feds will know. We'll just ask the he'll he'll he'll be the arbiter backup catcher catcher so at some point to stay in he could've stayed. I'm not arguing. I'm not arguing other than we'll ask. What the official ruling in something like that is Will Smith at that point because I think we've made up that? I don't think that's an actual bet that we fizzle no hell no. I haven't talked to him. He's coming up at five thirty WASCO all right so the thing that greg yesterday we were arguing about who should hire for an athletic. Yes and Greg said well. I know one thing. UCLA needs to get rid of Dan Guerrero. Yes and I said well. He's not gonNA retire unless he gets football. Situation figured out and Greg said I don't care what's going on with football. What's going while he's been here too long he needs to go? I said he'll never walk away. When football is in this big of a mess sure enough this morning at like ten o'clock I get an email alert from Ucla? Dan Guerrero announced his retirement June twenty twenty join you chase off Dan Guerrero Happy Mason used to pride himself and being a coach killer killer. This is your first kill your I'm. I'm an ad killer. I love it. No I don't believe in killing. I don't want anybody to Lizard job matter of kill. It's just a matter a Chilean fired. He is leave. He's he's retiring is. He Greg Out. Thank you that's retiring or is he getting fired. He's retiring in June of two thousand twenty but is that retiring or getting fired Greg technically kill fellow did let the door hit you on the hell well. I just wondered how the Guy kept his job. So long number one they had la tell me about football. Tell me about basketball obviously judged him on more than the two major sports because he has more national championship so you say he'll be remembered. You said he wouldn't walk away unless they had football figuring that you would. You didn't think he'd walk away but I wonder if they gave him the choice if they they said look you've got a nineteen year run. That's the second longest run of AB at a power five school. I don't know who the number one guy is but and now what are we interesting is as I've said this before Mark Jackson at Villanova is a candidate for the USC job rob matter of fact the more people that you talk to carol full seems to be leaning going that direction rather than going towards that used to be in the program ramp because she doesn't want anything to do with Urban Meyer and the guy at Washington state's tied Urban Meyer a gene Smith right there are lots of guys that aren't tied to urban Meyer that also it didn't use to be at USC. It seems like careful is the kind of person who wants to turn the page on everything that used to be at UNC well now. I would be against Mark Jackson and coming back. I was told today by somebody I really trust at. Ucla the Dan Gross replacement they've already got. They've already picked them out. It's a guy named Terry Toomey who I I went to. Ucla with right he was a nose tackle on the football team. African American currently the athletic director at Fresno State and they think that he is basically he's. He's been being groomed for this job for a few years now. They're gonNA give it to him yeah but they don't give it to to me. I think that it become Mark Jackson becomes a candidate for the UCLA see I'm I'm done with. USC going reaching back to the people that used to be in the athletic department during the Pete Carroll Day. I'm against all that makes Mark Jackson attractive is that he comes from worked with both Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick he came from the Patriot tree and then he came to USC and was an assistant book so he was part of the Pete Carroll era. He's part of the Lane kiffin areas part of the Steve Sarkisian air in fact. Some people think that he was one of the people that pushed for Sarkisian to take that job right so but you know what I'm arguing is at maybe he's a candidate for the UCLA job not if you don't want him USC fine the guy from Fresno state that you just talked about if that's not a done deal and my friend at Ucla who by the way worser now says. I think it's a done deal if it's not I think Jacksonville candidate for Ucla because he's he's killed at at Villanova and he's I never NCAA committee but most of all what you need. UCLA is somebody who can fix football right. You've just married yourself to Mick Cronin in basketball. There's not a lot you can do there right away. You need somebody who can fix football. So you think Villanova going to fix football. I think somebody who worked for bill check and Pete Carroll and his background is as a football coach would fix football. Does Villanova have football team. No no they do not right which is almost there are eight ten did a football guy with with football background went into Villanova school with no football and just started winning titles winning titles in basketball right and in volleyball and in a bunch each other stuff and so I if he doesn't want to go back to where you go back and take somebody that's been in their building which I completely get that I hope. Ucla Look Jackson because I think the number one thing you need to do is fix football. I mean I don't I don't know who the Mark Jackson is. I don't know who the ad of of any school is besides UCLA USC so I don't know who the right guys Fresno State. I can see Fresno State has a good football program. They're they're usually in the top twenty five well it makes sense to me went to Ucla football there s knows knows enough matters as much but I know that Fresno state eight is a good is usually a good football team. That's all I care about you. Already have the coach and Mick Cronin like you're saying and see. USC NEEDS A football team an ad from okay. Let me just put let me let me just say this because I'm getting tweets about it and I just got a text about it. Dan Guerrero in a statement today said to who significant changes in my life over the last eighteen months of led me to this decision after much consideration and discussion with my family and the chancellor I though it has not been widely known but successfully battled the toughest opponent I've ever had to face cancer the world class medical team at Ucla however helped me beat this disease and my prognosis for the future is excellent so he has had a cancer battle good for head that he is survived and obviously one of the reasons why he's he's moving on on and nineteen years as an athletic director is an extraordinary run your hired to be fired in those yes yes or you're hired to be promoted and go somewhere else right. He was the ethnic director at UC IRVINE FORMER UCLA baseball player and he's basically run that thing for twenty years so he got. I mean you talk about getting the most out of that run right but but I think we keep an eye on that name Terry to me and he doesn't get it then then. I think you bring somebody in who can fix football. Keep an eye on chip Kelly for season three to season three reach chip Kelly well to me was a football player. They hire him. You may have his Guy Yup. He may never know all right coming up. Doc Rivers is talking working and it's very interesting what he's saying and he also in my opinion doc got a very raw deal last weekend then I'll explain coming up mason and Ireland. ESPN LA hey saw happening MASON IRELAND ESPN La. I believe we've got at the MOM ready for today. Did you rise to the challenge. You will find out okay. We have a word we don't think he will. He can work into the mind of Mason Jason Feature in the Ram Games in the word we gave him. This week was scientology a word. He makes very queasy. He's afraid teen batted batted hate talking about so we'll see if you got it in. We'll play that for you later all right so Arosh Markazi had this really interesting article today about Doc rivers yes and he basically basically went behind the scenes of what happened in the day or two leading up to win they were able to get quite Leonard and Paul George and it has several interesting takeaways among them that as soon as the day before maybe even the day of yes the clippers didn't think they were getting him. They thought he was going to either the Lakers or the house and the deal matter of fact right down to the wire on the D. The on the day of the deal at noon Lawrence Frank who dot credits with doing most of the work. He says that he's been given some credit and Steve bombers been given some credit doc says Lawrence Frank did all the work said that frank put the deal be resuscitate it from death on that Friday afternoon they announced on Friday eighty night and they brought Friday night or Saturday night. I think it was a Friday night. Where four were the news broke that that the next day the next day was the first day you could sign people right the Saturday right right so they like Friday night at eleven? When you woke up Saturday morning whoa jams and everybody had it but it happened late Friday night right and one of the reasons doc said it did was they brought in for a meeting and Co.? I said to dock. I'd love to play for you and he looked not bomber and he says I love all this stuff. You're doing but your team's not good enough. I can't come here if this is your roster and they presented him with a list list of players they said if we get any of these guys would you then commit to us and then one name on the list was Paul George Yup so then they start working Oklahoma City and Oklahoma City got six draft picks for Paul George including three three picks swops. Yes they basically took their entire draft in the next five to seven years and one of the things that was holding it up with Steve Balmer didn't WANNA give up six picks and doc said two things to him that made him change his mind. He said number one. If Kawhi goes to the Lakers we should move the team to Seattle he goes because if quiet goes to the Lakers over turn out the lights she goes. They'll have a stranglehold on the mark up and they'll have a stranglehold on the NBA will be complete. I don't yeah I don't think they would have not just because yeah. What do you told a rash ice? I was kidding when I said it kinda minute yeah that would that if we let him go the Lakers but it would have been turned out the lights for them and then the second thing bomber said well. I've I've never heard of any player giving up six picks picks for any player that's not like will or Kareem or Lebron Yeah and DOC said you can't look at it that way he said you're giving up six picks for Paul George and Kawhi think of his three and three sure because you're not getting by without Paul George and bomber then then when he looked at it that way said okay. I'll do it but here's the thing where I think doc got host. He mentioned that last weekend in Malibu his son Seth who plays from the Mavericks Mary Doc's daughter Kelly and duck said he paid for the entire wedding and he made a comment like I'm the only dad add of an NBA player in history. That's been given the bill for wedding my kids you know any two in the NBA right you know he has one in the NBA Austin. Kelly's marrying seth who has his brother Stephan sure seth has more money than DOC DUDS DOC PAN for that wedding like I paid for my okay. Wait a minute walk through this again so doc's son Doc's daughter daughter Kellie Kellie married Seth Curry last weekend and right okay so traditionally. The father of the bride pays for the wedding that are that's the way things. Normally we go unless you know that's an old kind of grandfather dean but isn't that kind of the way I mean I've never married. Isn't that the way things go doesn't the bride stat always pay no if he can yeah but like Lisa's dad had no money so I paid for the whole thing Gee Lisa's dad wasn't gonNA give us any money money for the wedding you didn't have any but isn't that the tradition if the bride's dad can pay the bride's dad pace but I actually think that they shouldn't have made docked pay the the guy's an NBA player he can pay his own wedding is you're saying the kid should have paid dock. No Seth should've pace. That's should've paid for his own on wedding yeah. That's tradition is reserved because you figure he's giving away his daughter and you figure that the the the young couple needs needs all the money they have to like build a life to get a house and you know to go on a honeymoon and all that stuff why dot get stuck with the bill seth seth curry is worth like thirty million. I can probably handle it yeah. I I agree duck. I think he got. I think he got host. I don't think he should add to pay for the wedding so you didn't pay safe. You paid for your wedding all of it Yup. How big was it a hundred and fifty people how many how many people you were at the docks kids running that same the same yeah? That's a hundred and fifty the number. It's a little bit. I was just at a wedding. I'd say they're probably one hundred fifty there but I know for a fact that the bride's Dad Dad did pay for it because he stood right by the bar with his arms crossed and like looked at everybody coming up to the bar. act really satisfied with himself like yeah. I paid for that yeah well. I paid for that Laker. He deserves it yeah especially it was it open bar open borrow yeah yes served. One of my friends got married once to a girl and she was a religion wants to grow data other marriages. Yes okay and he I'm trying to remember what you she wasn't Mormon Yeah but she was like seventh day. Adventist advantage sure some other religion where they don't drink so the data the father of the bride paid for the wedding but did not pay for an open bar 'cause none of his friends drink so my buddy's dad walked in and through a credit card of arts it's open now yeah so it got to open one way or another either Kevin Demo. CEO The rams coming up in ten minutes Mason and Ireland Espn La Happening People Mason Ireland Ireland Espn alive by the way Kevin Dem off CEO coo of the rams four and then four thirty. We're giving away rams buccaneers tickets. I've come up with a stupid game for that. One today interesting story out of out of New York a domestic violence silence charge actually not I shouldn't say that charge reported incident involving Yankee Starter Domingo her mind he has been placed on administrative leave. under the joint Major League Baseball Players Association domestic violence policy following an incident that the League learned about Tuesday morning running despite the lack of a police report deal detailing the incident the League and union agreed that the allegations against Herman warranted placing him on a seven day they leave a amid an investigation he's twenty seven. He has been the Yankees most dominant star who's eighteen and four for them with a four Oro three are and one hundred and fifty three strikeouts there conflicting reports now about exactly how this went down Bob Klapisch Klapisch from the New York Times says I'm told the incident involving Domingo Herman and his girlfriend occurred late Monday night Tuesday morning in a public setting he he allegedly slapped her during an argument according to a major league baseball source the incident was witnessed by an official an official from the commissioner's office office odds meanwhile Lindsay Adler from the athletic tweets this Major League Baseball's investigation into Domingo reminds centers on an incident that sources told the athletic took place at his residence late Monday early Tuesday. This incident was not witnessed by an official of of Major League baseball the sources said so up in the air exactly whose story or who sources right and do apply this in a practical baseball. All census guys pretty good pitcher right. He is their leading starting pitcher eighteen wins so that that would be advantage astros and I don't know how many times that these guys I need to be caught and made examples out of before they realize that everybody's got a phone in their pocket and if you do this you're out for for a while. Yeah I mean it almost seems like they're they. Just don't get it now. They clearly don't get it and I think this is a problem in broader society I still I think that issue that incidents of domestic violence are under reported a lot of times. They don't get reported at all. there are women who suffer in silence situations like this and again. We don't have any details of this particular case or this incident how it was reported. We don't really know there's there's no police report but somehow it happened at his residence it sounds like and and it has been reported in some way in an investigation to major league baseball but this would be a critical critical loss for the Yankees in fact he is suspended for some period of time in the playoffs and the Yankees and Astros are battling for overall best record. Yeah Astros are up a game now and it looks like the twins are GonNa win the division yeah yes so if the astronauts the Yankees would play the twins in the first round and that's a team that could sneak up and beat him good good good and then the wildcard is it could be Tampa's in it Oakland's in it the WHO's likely to get the American league wild-card well Tampa is is right there for the wild card right now. I'm just pulled so yes so is Oakland. CLEVELAND IS IT'S GONNA finish right band Minnesota for the division but they're in it yeah oaklands up to now for the Wildcard Tampa is to back and then the Indians a half game back of that so it'll be one of those three teams ah for the wild card in the American League which means that the Astros would draw the winner of the wildcard game in the Yankees will most likely get the Minnesota twins percents so yeah but that's at something to follow and I I do think the the thing with the Yankees that's most interesting is they are definitely going to approach this as a pitching staff they only need to get four innings out of a starter. They're not gonNA have a dominant starting pitcher. They are going to run with what is the best bullpen in base and they're getting dylan pretentious back right no in fact dances came back over the weekend and through eight pitches on a second strikeout jumped on the mound to celebrate and partially tore his Achilles no way delicate dance is is done. Only mackey is gone. Does anybody have a good bullpen. He wrote hosts. He Rehab for four and a half months through eight. Pitches is and then partially torn Achilles and the angels beat the Yankees last night because at a motive Vino threw a pitch way over the head of the of the batter so he's being a little wild mild too. That's another guy that's being an issue for the Yankees bullpen and that's their strength. I was GONNA say today still if with these with Matanzas going down today stole the best bullpen going to the postseason yes because they were doing it without potential right now your long they've been doing it without pretentious and without much of a of a starting rotation but still well. I think that's the best bullpen in Major League baseball at least go into the postseason this year but it'll be it'll be fascinating to follow the American league because I still think that what you get down to it it is going to be Yankees and Astros no batons and maybe no domingo her mind depending on the outcome dot com of Major League Baseball's investigation. He won't pitch again during the regular season because the investigation is ongoing deputy. It is really really we we say every year. It's a crapshoot who's going to win it but it really is sheer Israeli shaping up that way the dodgers have major closer issues. The braves seem seemed to be like young and young and dumb is a good thing yeah in fact Ronald Kunia hit his fortieth home run last year only last night last night only only third player in Major League Baseball History under the age of twenty one to hit forty home runs in the season. He is really

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Hour 1: Jackie MacMullen joins

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Jimmy Butler of the of the NBA's, Minnesota timber, wolves as making national news. He has requested a trade from the Minnesota timber wolves. I'll tell you why. And I'll tell you about the likelihood of what his next destination spot will be. But more importantly, what his real problem with the timber wolves organization is really, really all about I order business. However, there's just get this out of the way Mavs owner, Mark, Cuban, Dallas Mavericks owner, Mark, Cuban. Has decided to donate about ten million dollars to variety of programs dealing with women in the workplace and domestic violence. This is in the aftermath of an investigation spanning months in which they were myriad of violations. Displayed in exacted by folks in the business part in the business department of the Dallas Mavericks against individuals against subordinates, female, subordinates to happen to have worked there. The NBA did not use the word fine, but essentially, Mark Cuban, he could have easily been finding a maximum could have been found with two and a half million dollars by the National Basketball Association. So essentially, if you want to say there's a seven and a half million dollar penalty that exceeds that, so be it. I wanna put for the record that I'm of the mindset that Mark Cuban should have been suspended for half the season. I'm not a monster that he should have been suspended for half the season, and the Dallas Mavericks should have been forced to forfeit a first round pick why? Because that's something that would have pinched him. The fact that the first round pick was confiscated combined with the fact that you wouldn't be allowed to. Do business on behalf of the Dallas Mavericks or short NBA games will be associated with the NBA in any capacity for six months that would have sent the right message? Do I think Mark Cuban should be banned? No. Do I think more Cuban should be punished more than that? No. Do I think that Mark Cuban should be treated as a pariah and somebody's that labeled the persona, non grata by the National Basketball Association. Anybody else permanently? Absolutely not. And I'll take no pleasure in calling for a half game suspension for them. It's not going to happen. I'm just telling you what I would have done had I been Commissioner, Adam silver, allow me to explain why. I'll preface my comments by saying, I, I think there Mark Cuban is a good man. And all my years of covering the NBA it's been an absolute pleasure getting to know him and talking to him. I found him and I still find him to be somebody who's candidate for the most part incredibly honest insincere in whatever he thinks in feels this is not about that Ma belief that he should have been suspended for half the season as not an engagement and character assassination against Mark Cuban. I don't believe that one second. I just believe that with the culture that we're living in and the kind of things that other people have been subjected to the reality of the situation is clear. If you're the NBA you're committed to sending the right message, then you can't drop the ball. On issues such as domestic violence, sexual harassment, etc. Centers just can't do that. Now, in fairness and any interest a full disclosure, everybody needs to understand that. I spoke to the NBA league office this morning, and their position is very clear. There were some things that they truly believe Mark Cuban did not know about number one. Number two, they believed that his contrition was evident and sincere. Not to mention the fact that they said that he gave them absolutely positively, no resistance. When it came to the investigation, he opened up the floodgates for them to find and discover whatever could be founded, discovered. He was incredibly cooperative. He didn't create or manufacture any roadblocks whatsoever, and he put forth due diligence to do everything that he could within his power to make sure that this matter was addressed with the level of sensitivity and fervor it deserved once they got involved. To quote somebody from the NBA office. They said Moore, didn't make excuses and immediately did whatever he could to make it better going forward. Others usually look for excuses that was not Mark Cuban. He never did that. And the investigators told us he opened everything to them. He knew he messed up and putting everything towards fixing. It certainly was a mitigating factor in the NBA's decision. To impose this monetary fine as opposed to a suspension. Although they did not label it a fine as the great Jackie MacMullan right extraordinaire for the Boston Globe for many, many years does work for ESPN as well as been covering the NBA for decades. So as a as an author, bestselling author, she's absolutely phenomenal. She'll be on the show with us at thirty minutes past this hour, but getting back to mock you and let me be very, very clear. I've been brought up when you spend when you exile Donald sterling, and you get him out of the league when the NFL has decided to get Jerry Richardson out of the league, what do you say to people that bring up that example? And the NBA's response was very, very simple. Those guys would direct culprits with their transgressions. Mark Cuban in sexually harass anybody more Cuban commit domestic violence gets anybody. So to compare him to those folks is unfair. I agree with that. I agree with that. Not there Mark, Cuban, when anybody else you care. What I think. But the reality is because I'm know judge jury, but the bottom line is this is the world of sports. And I guess you could say, I am to some degree. It hurts me to even address this about Mark Cuban. I consider him a good man. But I'll tell you something else that look bad for him in all of this. There are very few people that brought up, but I will bring it up. Mark, Cuban obviously has been in public spats against the now President Donald Trump. And we all know what issue some have had with President Trump. Particularly as it pertains to women. Sorta have this going on in your workplace with guys like form executive to the us Serie dating back to his early as nineteen ninety eight. And you did little to nothing about it. There's no excuse for that. Does absolutely no excuse for that. Again in the interest of full disclosure. There are not too many African Americans covering the sport of basketball that did not know to germy ushering. Shirley, most of us covering the NBA new and no, to me to some degree, longtime executive. Once upon a time, this was an individual in line and some people's eyes to succeed Commissioner, David Stern, believe it or not. He was thought of in such high regard that there were people that actually thought and contemplated and spoke on the possibility of him being a Commissioner of the National Basketball Association somewhere down a lot. Now, me personally, I never bought that because as far as I'm concerned, one of the great people that I've ever known in this profession is a guy by the name of Russ Granik, former deputy Commissioner of the National Basketball Association. The other is Adam silver, and in my mind, it was always going to be one of those two that was going to succeed Commissioner David Stern. Please understand that to yesterday was spoken of and thought of in such high regard that there were people who speculated he had a chance at being the next Commissioner. Is an African American. We found ourselves incredibly proud of this man, a pioneer a trendsetter. Somebody who opened the gates fathers of African American descent in front office positions and beyond, particularly as pertain to the NBA. The great one Mr Richard latte, chick sports in society, and all the research is done throughout the years. When he spoke highly about the NBA's record as it pertained to diversity? There is no question that one of the reasons he alluded to that with the story. So for this man to be associated with some of the things he has been accused of and damn near indicted off in a world of corporate America since he's lost numerous jobs because of this issue, the word shame doesn't even begin to describe. How most of us must feel here in the things that we've heard about him believing. There's a shred of truth to it, even if there's a shredder truth to it, it's shameful. It is. He worked for more Cuba for years. Of course, there's Chris Hotta team employees. This Earl snee- involved in two acts of domestic violence. There's a guy named buddy Pittman, who was the former h Auden director who recommended firing hide, which Mark Cuban took a pass on only to find out that buddy Pitman had his own shoes. Mark, Cuban was on the jump yesterday with Rachel Nichols very only Rachel Nichols who did a phenomenal job interviewing him yesterday. And his contrition appear genuine. Clearly he's very, very sorry for the situation that he's found himself in and put the Dallas Mavericks organization in. And I'm not here the question that have too much respect for Mark, Cuban. I really, really do. But if you're the NBA moving in a forward direction sensitive to the times that we're living in the optics alone associated with this mess in Dallas warranted a suspension. Not talking about confiscating ownership from him, forcing him out as you did Donald sterling, even though there was never a vote, you just force them out to sell the team for two billion dollars. I'm simply saying to just pass off a ten million dollar fine to a billionaire and not even call it a fine. That's less than a slap on a wrist. And to me as max Kellerman on, I take with yours, truly every weekday from ten AM to noon articulated earlier this morning. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the National Basketball Association. I say that respectfully because there's very, very little that Adam silver, the Commissioner has not done right. I think this is one of those times. You can make an argument. That he's actually wrong. It eight say ESPN. It's edited seven to nine, three, seven, seven, six Jackie MacMullan will be on with us thirty minutes past the hour to talk about this issue a little bit further and express hus- stuff, hut thoughts, rather from a female perspective and point of view. We always appreciate that he under Stephen Smith show ESPN radio, let me transition some football because Aaron Rodgers far more knock you a situation to discuss rather than what we just got into. Arron Rogers has expressed concern, Aaron Rodgers. Is expressed concern. His knee injury could get worse. He say, yes, obviously, that's a concern. Hopefully it goes the other way though. Amaradasa four touchdown passes no interceptions on the season. Completing sixty nine percent of his passes to thirty or forty two passes, but touchdown gets Vikings. Even ran the bowl three times for about eight yards and Raja's not nearly one hundred percent. We understand that we understand that the knee could get worse or it could eventually get better. We don't know. My belief is that Aaron Rodgers has earned the right to say, I can go walk, can't go. He's that great. And this is the sport of football. And the fact is he was one hundred percent healthy before he got hurt, and then you opener. So anything could happen. We understand that we expect that we see if what it is. The flip side to it is that if you're Mirages and Green Bay Packers, I will tell you a cappella inaugurated that my max made earlier this morning. He said, you got buffalo and Detroit in the Washington Redskins first Redskins, then the bills, then the lions back to back to back weeks. I said, now you're talking because essentially two those weeks. It'd be a bar week as far as concern. And if those by weeks, guess what? That would be the perfect reason to bench Aaron Rodgers. But don't tell me because the NIA saw and he's lipid around don't act. Don't try to get Ammon Rogers to be the second coming Jay Cutler. Nobody's trying to hear that about a way to for those of you might technician. She could you please put me back up on the screen on the TV screen that I'm looking at. I like seeing myself on national TV just so you know, let me say this. We don't want Aaron Rodgers contaminated with some kind of label belonging to Jay Cutler. That's not what we want member j colored a quarter former quarterback for the Chicago Bears the one that was in an NFC championship game against era of the Green Bay Packers back in two thousand and ten. He could go on the sideline and pedal bicycle, but couldn't backpedaling the pocket to throw the ball with a Super Bowl berth on a line that Jay Cutler, we don't want associate garages or something like that. That's not what we want here. He's an Mirages. He's a bed, man. If anybody can handle it, he can't. If anybody deserves the benefit of the doubt he does, if anybody has earned the right to make a decision as to whether or not he wants to decide to play, it's him. Eight that complicated to be. I don't understand why it'd be that complicated to any of y'all. It eight say ESPN is the number to call this seven to nine three, seven, seven, six. You are listening to the Stephen, a Smith show ESPN radio. Another thing that's all mama. Is Antonio Brown in the Pittsburgh Steelers there? Oh one on one on the season. Nosedive and dysfunctionality is raked through the San the franchise like virus, at least for the time being and era. I'm sorry, Antonio Brown has received discipline by Mike Tomlin for missing practices. Okay. We all know that that's the case, okay. Nobody's hotter from their reality. He has received his discipline. Now, what is that discipline? Not so show. Made headlines in the hours after weeks, two loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. When he was to be a Twitter, the criticism from a former team, public relations, staff member trained me. Let's find out my attitude is this. Scarpinato was the God's name, the former team, public relations. Do good luck finding another job and somebody else's PR department you leaving. You're talking about a player. Now, what do I don't trust me? You can't do stuff like that. You could say a lot of stuff you want about me any play can say what they want about me, but what you will never find a place in about me is I betrayed their trust. You might not like what I say. Sometimes you might even be a fit about what I say about sometimes, but the word but trail will never come out of your your mouth. If you are honest, because I don't betray people. Get what you see what you get. Nine hundred fun. This dude Scarpinato you work for the Steelers, and then you're gonna leave and talk about one of the players that's low SunTrust worthy. Good luck with him finding a job and somebody else's PR department. That's number one. Number two. My Thomas did say there was disciplined evolve after meeting with Brown. For missing. Monday's meetings, Tom refused the for answer further questions about Brown. Instead, the Steelers wideout would talk to the media Thursday quarterback, Ben Rothlisberger downplayed Brown's situation, telling reporters, Wednesday, talked a little bit when Brown and attributed any level of frustration to the Steelers one and one start to the regular season quote. I think that he's the best in the world when you the best in the world, you wanna help artistic. But you want to help win football games and we're all frustrated because we're not winning right now in quote, let me tell you what I know. Antonio Brown's, very frustrated. Antonio Brown, even though he's been targeted as much as anybody on the Steelers, particularly juju Smith Schuster who's leading the Steelers in yards accumulated over the first two games because he's got two hundred and forty yards on eighteen receptions. Antonio Brown has the same number of receptions, but one hundred sixty yards. Big Ben Rothlisberger is connected with Tony Brown out about fifty to fifty five percent of his of his target with over sixty five with everybody else. So Antonio Brown has now have you right then. Fifty, four point, five percent to be exact. The percentage of times they've been Rosberg is connected to an Tonio Brown based on the target. Whereas you just minutes juice to sixty six point, seven percent of the time Jesse James eighty percent of the time Vance McDonnell sixty percent of the time James Washington. Well, he don't really count just targeted. Thought times in the end, what it comes down to is this. Antonio Brown's best receive in the world. Arguably. He's not happy with big bit. He's lies it any way he wants to. I'm telling you what I've heard. Big Ben is not throwing the football affectively enough when when he's targeted and he's not talking to him enough, the relationship seems to have changed since Todd Haley, the offensive coordinator who's now in Cleveland departed Antonio Brown's frustrated by that they've been rothlisburger is going to have to fix it, and it's not just by speaking offer Antonio Brown. It's about speaking to him. It eight say ESPN it's seven to nine, three, seven, six. That was insider information. I just gave you. I'm not asking you. I'm telling you what I've heard. Now, the piece of inside information involves the NBA and Jimmy Butler. The Minnesota Timberwolves reaching out to ask Tom pivotal to trade him, Brooklyn nets, New York, Knicks Los Angeles Clippers. Those destinations spots, he preferred to go to why he doesn't want to go to Bron James and the Lakers. That's an interesting topic of discussion, but first things first, here's why wants out of Minnesota. He thinks Andrew Wiggins has no heart whatsoever. He thinks he's soft as putty and he plays for the money, and that's it. I'm not saying that about Android. 'cause I'm telling you to me Butler believes that about Andrew Wiggins. From what I've been to. The other elements. All of this is that call Anthony towns of studies clearly the face of the franchise. They've got to resign him. He's got a bright future ahead of him. But the mindset is, is that call Anthony towns. Although he cares about winning kids just as much about his numbers. The bigger problem is Andrew Wiggins, stop and Jimmy Butler doesn't have the patience to deal with them. He's a hardcore brother. He's not the ideal player to have on a young squad. But an older squall with guys who know how to play and have heart. Jimmy Butler is all about that. He's got serious questions about that anyway. You slice it. Here's the bottom line. Jimmy Butler eventually will be gone whether it's next week next month before the trading deadline, he will be gone. And atop the Bill doesn't get that house in order in Minnesota. At the very least he will be stripped of his basketball duties as president of basketball operations for the franchise. He's gonna fight as the coach. But ownership, the and timber wolves land have some serious serious questions about Tom Izzo as the lead of their basketball franchise from an executive perch. He's got some issues to deal with. There is no way around that. The one and only Jackie MacMullan NBA in reported extraordinary for many, many years based out of Boston, Massachusetts. She'll be right here. I think she's coming from LA though today. She'll be right here either way would Stephen on ESPN radio, ESPN, news guys. Let's be real. When you look good, you feel good at the JC Penney wardrobe sale. You can get fifty percent off. 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At eight, say ESPN eight, seven, two, three, seven, seven, six as promise. It is on a in privilege to have my next guest on the line. Did a wonderful job. Also, I take this morning on ESPN does a wonderful job and has done so for decades covering the National Basketball Association. That's the best author. She's a phenomenal columnist. She's a friend. She's a colleague. She's the one and only Jackie MacMullan. She's right here with Steven. A. on ESPN radio and ESPN news. How are you? Jackie? How's everything? I'm good even a crazy day. Right. It has been a crazy day is just you and I here right now, so let's get right into it. Your thoughts when you first learned what the quote unquote punishment for Mark Cuban was going to be in this whole fiasco, evolving the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, still Stephen. It was a little disappointing. First of all, there wasn't. Was there really a punishment? Are we sure because there was no fine. No official by now. I've talked to the league office and I know you have and they'll argue this semantics because Mark Cuban is donating ten million dollars to women's groups, but he still wasn't. There's I, it wasn't that notation of a fine. Why does that matter? It matters to me because it it admits them admission of guilt, right? It missed that. You know, hey, I had I had a part in this and I also thought that the league had a missed opportunity here. They had a chance to make a very, very strong statement on violence in the workplace against women in the NBA and they didn't. They passed. I don't know if they lost their nerve. We do know that the owners that the Commissioner works for the owners, not the other way around, but I have great respect for Adam silver. So wisely, a man of integrity. I think he is a man of great integrity, but I think he, I think he dropped the ball on this one. You know, as interesting and I want to reaction to this. Because speaking to a couple of folks in the league office, I had one person send this text to me and I wanted to read it to you and get your reaction. The person said to me just to reiterate the fact that Marc didn't make excuses and immediately did whatever he could to make it better going forward. Others look to make excuses he did not. He never did that. And the investigators told us he opened everything to them. He knew he messed up and putting everything towards fixing. It certainly was a mitigating factor in odd decision what your reaction to that Jackie. Yeah, so that's, that's all really good actually, because you know how this usually works. When sometimes when you're investigate people start circling the wagons and getting out the machine and all of that and stonewalling. And I'm glad that Mark Cuban didn't do any of those things. But you know, in his by his own admission in the interview he did with Rachel, he talks about being tone deaf and I thought, okay, well, in light of all of this all, you know, let's hope Mark Cuban isn't tone us anymore. Let's hope he's in lined and then Rachel. Asking the question, have you talked to any of the victims reached out to the victims who were beaten harassed in your office part of your organization? And the answer was no Rachel follows up with well, do you plan to reach out to them? And he goes right into some kind of lawyer speaker something about, well, I don't know the circumstances you their individual circumstances, and the way the report is structured and and you and I even, we know that's not if he wanted to reach out to those women. It would take about ten seconds the at the names and numbers and arrange to sit down with them face to face and let them share how traumatize they've been by this. So I mean he can give ten million dollars to all these various women's groups, and I'm sure it'll help some somebody immensely. But how about the people who lost their jobs, lost their dignity and from what I understand, some of them had trouble getting jobs since then what are we gonna do about them? Because if you're not willing to help them, I have to ask, are you really no longer tone deaf. While the right here with Steven a. on ESPN radio, it's interesting because I'm looking at some of them just incredibly disturbing. I can't even say enough about the demo- Cherie in his role in this unbelievable, unbelievable shameful. I mean, you've known them. You've talked to him before I've known him. I've talked to before. I can't believe some of the things that I've read about what he was doing is just absolutely shameful. And obviously there's a few other incidences that Mark Cuban clearly was made aware of, but didn't act then an act properly about it. What do you make of the notion there are people out there. They'll look at an urban Maya, Jackie. Let's take this. Expand rice, gushing a little bit further. Look at an urban Meyer who clearly played the role of a naval no matter how he tries to slice it, right? He wasn't the one who committed domestic violence more human appears to be their neighbor, but he wasn't the one that committed domestic violence or sexual harassment or anything like that, right. There are people who argue, look at these. Guys, we're trying to use them as the coporate instead of going after the people that really are the culprits and all of this. What does Jackie MacMullan say to that? Well, that's fine. And I think Zack Smith has now finally paid the price, and I'm going to guess it Earl Sneed has as well. Now he's the gentleman who worked for the Mavericks and sent his fiancee to the hospital with bruises and a fractured wrist on something that Mark Cuban knew about Mark, Cuban decide to keep him. And then what does Earl Sneed does he ends up dating a female employee of the Dallas Mavericks and of physically abusing her as well Baso there's your backdrop now, obviously, what Earl Sneed did is a lot more despicable than anything. Mark Cuban did. Brian thing was ex- myth in her Meyer, but and here's the, but you are in control of this organization, your name, you. You take the good with the bed. Mark Cuban is boasted for many years to you and me both that he has his finger on the pulse of his organization. So if you're going to take down that. Responsibility and take all the all the plots that come with being a very clever businessman, very forthright person. You and I've talked about this. We both have great respect from our Cuban and all that. But now you can't now turn around and say, oh, well, I didn't know, and I'm sorry, I'll do better next time. I don't know that that falls a little short for me. Stephen, a, what do you make of the NBA? Because clearly the NBA is buying the notion that he was oblivious to a lot of things that will going on the business side because he was so entrenched in the basketball side because here's why it's hard for me Jackie, and I'm sure you'll appreciate this more Cuban. Every time we saw him, it was about a basketball. He's traveling with the basketball team. He sitting courtside, he's in the weight room working out or whatever the case may be right telling you saw him. It was always around basketball people. It was. It was really if ever around business people. So it's hard to just imagine a buck stops with him, but it's almost believable that he wasn't paying enough attention to the business side to that just say what I do. Do I can. I can see where that's possible and you're right, and and you know when I think when you run, I take this morning, I talked about docking them draft, pick, and and the pushback from the league office in front of the Dallas Mavericks, hey, look, we're Carla, didn't do anything wrong during the midst. He didn't do anything. Why should they be punished? Well, that's just how this works. I'm sorry, this is how it works, fair or unfair. And so I, I, I wanna believe that Mark Cuban has learned his lesson that he's going to be more vigilant about this. When I go back to the the wonderful interview that Rachel was, did she said, you know, the new CEO she sees fantastic MS Marshall, it looks like she's the real deal. Cynthia Mata doesn't great ideas. Yup. And she said, well, are you, you know, if you read some of the recommendations goes, well, I'm gonna leave that up to her. No, my goodness learned your lesson. You need to be more involved. You need to roll up your sleeves and be part of this. And and I, I, I hate to go this way, but. You know, the woman in a man field for over three decades now who bought away done better than most of us who bought away has done a than most of us, but go ahead. Thank you, but I can tell you that women were different than men. That's sort of like, I'm not. That's not a big revelation to anybody, but so often we hear somebody say something and I'll think, wow, that was so inappropriate. Well, what a dumb thing to say, and I'll be staying with two guys and I'll mention them afterwards. Well, that was really an approach and they'll be like, wow, yeah, I guess you're right. And so I just think we have a ways to go here. I do and and I think I'm gonna reiterate it. It's I'm banging on this drum, but I'm gonna do it again. What about these victims? I don't know their names. Do you? I don't know what they look like. Do you don't? They deserve, don't they? You know, don't they deserve a chance to have things made right for them. So that's the drama. I'm gonna continue to be Mullah. My last question with you will be this. How do we look at Mark Cuban going forward and and I and I speak about not just the NBA community or even the public at large. But literally drawing a line at, I caught me between males and females because obviously waste on what you just described about being with two guys that were hesitant to say that was inappropriate until you brought that up. The thinking might be divided along gender lines. I hope it's not, but it may be. How do you expect Mark Cuban to be viewed moving forward in light of all of this? Well, he's got some work to do, and I think he's off to a good start, ten million dollars. We'll make a lot of different. He's hired someone who's going to be very vigilant about this in his organization going forward. I would suggest that all the other organizations get their ducks in a row pretty quickly. Okay. Because who knows what this will spawn. So I wanna believe that Mark Cuban gets it. But when I hear him sidestepped these victims, it leaves me with some doubt. Stephen, it just leaves me with some doubt. And I, I know Mark Cuban is a very smart man and I in my dealings with them, which to be honest, have been somewhat limited. He's treated me with nothing but respect. I've never ever felt anything disrespectful coming from him. I've never once you know, sometimes in my position you talk to people and you're reminded that you're a woman. I've never felt that way with Mark Cuban. So I have no personal experience that tells me he can't learn from this NBN lightened. And I hope that's what happens. I'm not rooting against Mark Cuban, but I'm rooting for those victims. That's all USPS senior writer, best-selling all the NBA writer report a columnist extraordinaire for many, many years. The wonderful Jackie MacMullan radio was even a on ESPN radio, and he has been thank you so much Jackie ever. Wonderful day. Thank you, Steven, appreciate it. Okay, Jackie. Meanwhile, a right here with Steven a. ESPN radio, edit. Eight, say ESPN is edited seven to nine, three, seven, seven. Six makes a lot of points makes a lot of great, great points. You know, talking to people like her Christine Brennan for USA today. Ramona Shelburne for us. Rachel Nichols for us. I mean, Djamil hill and the wonderful job. She did. ESPN for so many years. Just the list goes on and on and on. You know, there's other females in the business of sports. Pam Oliver's of the world and so many others Josina Anderson who does a great job at ESPN so many everywhere you turn. They're just a lot of women that are doing wonderful, wonderful work. And you know, to just get their perspective, we can sit up there and bloviate all we want to ours raised by five win for crying out loud. I don't know what what women know about certain things. It's just it's different perspectives. Just like you want a black perspective, a white perspective, a Latina perspective, etc. Etc. That gender perspective is so incredibly incredibly important. And I think that if Mark Cuban didn't have it before he's damn show getting it now. Thanks again at a wonderful Jackie MacMullan for coming on it at eight, say ESPN. We'll get to your phone calls and more than a minute before Keyshawn Johnson comes on with us to start off our number two of Stephen, a Smith show right here on ESPN radio ESPN. News. Now now, Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine how I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got a nifty mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access ow. Ow. 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