19 Episode results for "Josie Marino"

Solari's Last Stand?

ESPN FC

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Solari's Last Stand?

"Pennzoil synthetics made from natural gas make this the time for performance this time of year. You never know what the weather's going to bring and extreme weather needs an extremely performance motor oil. So use Pennzoil synthetics to keep your engine purring Pennzoil synthetics complete protection for top engine performance. Well, let's have ESPN f c I'm Dan Thomas joined by shaggy Hislop an alley. Moreno no doubt about it. The big game this weekend. We've had to wait a long time for this. Real Madrid Barcelona this time, though, of course, inland leaguer bossa without victory be in the cop. Dial Ray in Madrid nine points. The difference going eighteen today's class you take a look at how the book he's have saints pretty even really Real Madrid seven of four pasta twenty nine hundred twenty jaw twenty seven to ten also then just favorites. Let's welcome sit low into the show. Say let's go down to business is the possibility of Josie marina being in charge of ram Madrid on Monday. On Monday at anything that's going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in charge for the beginning of next season. But ending he's going to happen a month. I can't see a set of circumstances. Even even in the event of a poor. I can't see a set of circumstances in which that scenario is provoked. I can't see that happening. I mean, obviously, what will happen now is this will happen next week. You'll play this type back and say you help them. Help them. I just I just don't see it happening. How much how much trouble with sons Ian going into this game? Obviously celerion charge the three nil defeat and looking at it this weekend back to plastic. Oh, defeat not many manages survivor. No, it's true that not many manager survived that, but you have to bear in mind as far as the context sense he comes in and he's publicly announced as a temporary manager then a couple of weeks later because of course, league league federation rules mean they have to they announced him as a permanent manager. They give him a contract that suggests he's a permanent manager. But everybody knows that this is still someone who who's in charge because there weren't other options who's in charge because they needed someone to take over having got rid of dude an opportunity, and that there is a real anticipation that he'll continue into next season in less. Of course, the season goes incredibly well now on this Laurie. I think there is a sense that things have improved. There is a sense that key players playing better than they did before. And in the case of Vinicius in particular apply who wasn't playing before is and is playing regularly, and he's probably the stand out performer. I think it's true. Of course, they were beaten by Girona in Lalita. And and that kind of Seoul the wheels come off a little bit, and they were beaten by Barcelona in the second leg, but it's also true that the sensations off that game with it, which were genuine equal unlucky. They'd. Had more chances than Bacelona that they'd actually played pretty well Sutton until boss on a school. The first you could perhaps even argue into Boston school the second of the goals. And so I don't think we're in a scenario in which a it's a good time to change manager. And there's an obvious alternative will cost you floated the name of marina. And I think at some stage that certainly is one that will be taken very very seriously by the Real Madrid bold be I'm not sure quickly enough in time for a game on Tuesday night against which by the way, they won the first, admittedly. They didn't play. Well, they won the first away from home soon and advantageous position there. And I just don't see what you would gain by doing now unless what you want is an ultra short term kind of injection. But there isn't really a sense at rummaging. The salary is the man responsible for what is going wrong. And as I say, it's only two games. Now, say promise to talk about the game in a minute. But this Josie Marino link fascinates me because have the Rams at fists and board not seeing how good. Good man, just United being cincy left. And if they not forgotten how much chaos Marino left round Madrid in after his first, and that wasn't talking into the media horrible performances on the page tough to watch what's going on. Yeah. I mean, we've we've solve address some of these issues before. But it's certainly true that the what happens in Manchester United since his departure is another argument against bringing them in. It's another argument that doesn't necessarily guarantee improve one hundred percent the problem and the only problem with marina. But it certainly argues that quite clearly that things got worse with him and became far far that without him in that getting rid of him was beneficial for match tonight at the very very least in the short, and perhaps medium-term as you say in terms of the kind of the what they remember the memory of what happened with with marina Ramzan. I think it's quite difficult to try and make this make sense for people because you're absolutely right on the face of it. It was disastrous it ended very badly. It was absolutely unsustainable. It was without doubt a season to fall on everyone wanted that over. And in fact, I think a lot of people didn't even want to go into that season. Marino certainly gave the impression for out that final season that would evolve Rabin anywhere. Remember when he turned up at Chelsea. And he was asked in that. Classic question. Well, you said you were the special one before will all you now, and he said on the happy one and that was because he was desperate to gather around and he was not happy. It wasn't even funny in a pug nation. So why it wasn't funny, and I look in winding people up so why none of the charm was there anymore? It was just deeply unpleasant in that last year. And you got the feeling that actually pretty unpleasant for him as well that he didn't enjoy it. And yet, they still pool and there's that pool. We've remedies president Frontino pet if he knows that is problematic. He knows that it brings difficulties but there's still looks back. Oh, marina thinks that was a manager. This is a president who doesn't trust manages. He doesn't believe in him. He doesn't give them authority. He's only really given authority to one manager. And he still sees Marino was the only person this confronted addressing this taking them on this gin union being stalled this genuinely have the gravitas the he wants in a manager. This spy all the other things. And so right now, I have no doubt that the ferns independent is in this position where he's mentally thinking himself. I kind of really want to do this by no the risks. And I think that's a battle that he's got to decide on and he has approach marina previously to say. You know, what do you think about coming back? I don't know if this will happen, but it is far more plausible than it. Looks on the face van from the outside. You're right. Everyone looks and thinks this is bizarre. How could this happen? But it could I wanna use the word pugnacious again. But I don't know what it means. Be careful. Game. We'll Marino shack. Whichever you want because the Barilla just as bunkers. It does it does. It doesn't make any sense to me tour other than Florentino Perez, quite clearly lectures Marino and sees him as as maybe the one to to come back in. And maybe we still restore order of our new way. Through it. You're talking about jobs Marie? The thing is in his first proud. You look at the humane elements in the main elements against the time Renaldo ecus there. No gone. Maybe times as joining the Cousteau likes to here Ramos Marcelo as a result. Maybe Maria makes sense. But otherwise, I really can't I really can't figure out front Peres's. Thank you didn't convince me shy. I wasn't convinced myself. I know. Let's talk about the game of his show. We alley mentally. How does it affect the dressing room losing just three days ago against the same team? Does it does it play its part? I think he does. And you just have to look and sit alluded to there what Real Madrid was up until that first goal and what they became after that at team that seem excited to play confident would the ball in their feed Vanessa's taking place on creating opportunities chances taken how to come up with safe. The first goal happened with Barcelona, and although he took a little while to score the second. He just was never in doubt. That after that first goal. Barcelona was going to win the game simply because you look at a team that is fragile and and that is the price. And because I thought that after the medical Marie win at athletic Maria, the one tunnel that this team had turned a corner, and that corner seems to have shown up again. Yeah. And and what it tells me is that how vulgar. Grable how fragile this team can be and how disconnected they can get once confidence ghost. And he doesn't take a whole lot for confidence to go for this version of Real Madrid. You see it in the way that they play. You see how the shoulders just get slumped and heads go down. And it feels like here we are again. And we don't know what to do. We don't know where the answers are. And we don't know what the questions are. So to me reality. This is there for the taking, and you can only imagine whether to it was going to sound like if someone like jumps ahead. Yeah. If someone kiss possession of the ball if the knocking the ball around Real Madrid and Real Madrid has no answers for that. Then it was going to turn not oh man round. Then Sunday I was allowed to but it's going to turn on on everything on everything Real Madrid. It feels like one of those times where it's just no good waiting for Real Madrid. But maybe maybe maybe some sort of Welsh superhero. Coming style. The game score a hat trick. Celebrate with every one of the nineteen thousand fans there, maybe even his players as well. As bail going to start say, there was some are you going to stick to his guns hair? I don't think going to start. I think there's a question Mark to be raised here, which is which is not just about bad. Actually, it's more about you've got this game on this game of cool masses emotionally, very very much. Indeed, I suppose, theoretically, it matters in terms of the competition as well. Because if they win they'd be six points behind effectively seven because the head to head goal difference. But six points beyond a maybe they sit in the league title rice. But of course, you then three days later have Ramat against as Roma did one away from home, which of course, is a very good result. But the way the I x performed means that Roma did a conscious that that second could well be difficult. You know, this isn't necessarily done. So the question I suppose in a why he's not just about by. It is about whether celery makes changes it way through to the team. And now, I think how did they fruit to the couple of the right funnel? I think he would have done it. I think because of the emotional damage another defeat does I'm because of the sense of giving these players the chance to produce the same performance, but just with the difference that they actually put the ball in the goal this time. I think we're gonna see the same. Starting eleven with the possible exception of one maybe two changes. But I must confess I don't until by Gareth bile styles. That mistake shack new I've got nothing to secure a site in this a spot in the starting lineup nothing on or off the field. Nacho fact, mouthing scientists Larry to go with those players that. Concert tried and trusted, but at least a buying into some sort of a team ethic, which Kathy Lee, isn't and in all honesty is ticket. What you've got and the difference between readmitted and bus alone in an alley makes the point is who scores that food school, or at least if I'm Sunday's Larry that's what I'm trying to convince the entire address room. The only difference between us and them is us taking on chances when we had them early on. And not just the last give him the previous to and and you're low in Barcelona to St. in the game. And to all of a sudden, they come out looking comfortable victors when it wasn't really that easy. Also seeing to into just listen and the second we kept me in a messy, quiet. I know that doesn't shave you scoreline, but this point you're grabbing the chosen and trying to convince Real Madrid that that they can compete because I said rightly points out this could this could go pear ship. It quite easily. You know, the kind of argument to that is very easy. You can say I want to beat us three. With a quiet afternoon by Mitzi. I'm just seeing if I'm saying this allowing that dresser whom it is what I'm trying to see whether I believe it or not. That's what I'm telling them from boss, aloneness perspective. Obviously it was came way that they did win without Leonel Messi getting the goals because we've seen over recent weeks. How dependent they have been on the on tinian. And it's interesting, despite the fact that top of the table goals during finding the champions. They there is a lot of criticism. It seeing being wait suddenly valve that in the style of football football as some pressure on. Maybe we'll definitely a surprise for now for the end of the season. Yeah. Of course this pressure. He recently renewed his contract, of course, was a couple of weeks ago. And actually the response to it was an overwhelmingly positive response to it from a lot of people even those people who defend Valverde has done even some of those people thinking. Yeah. Well, defend what he's done because you want double last year and they're on calls for a league this year. And who knows what might happen in the couple a and the champions day, but we not show he's necessarily the man to take us four. We're not sure insincerity kind of marries to Athalassa Faye that he fits our ideals. And so, yeah, he he's under pressure. I'm not sure that that pressure is necessarily going to be defined by this match. So I think he's going to be fined fall more by what happens in the Champions League. And he's the Champions League obsesses them this season. And if you had said to boss on his plays privately. I don't think probably the anyone would have said this listen you can win one of these two classic. I think later taken a couple of the right semi final. Wow. All right. She got some predictions and sits things bay looting that could be around with victory. I think. Yeah. This is my second. Okay. It's gonna be four. I I really caught like well sending the studio there about the the idea of if I go damage to remedy this footage by the white from that guy in which off the third. Go shuck, you're almost tendencies places his come home. We've got all these are going to school six and I think Real Madrid emotionally and mentally fragile. And I think that first Gulf of balsa would call someone into damage. But then Wednesday was if I'm going to go for two to drool the kind of game with both teams come out of it and think that wasn't too bad and also where Athletico Madrid pleased with things as well. Shall we say to Joel for every time you every time -absolutely even run? Awful Chaka Boston and the two. No, I just think this Real Madrid fall too fragile new. No. That was sounded scenarios argument. That was my argument that was sandy. Me too. To one mother. He looked pained to see that. Well, I just wanted to win a classic going back to back games. I mean, they just played on Wednesday. And everything would tell you the Barcelona would win this game. Usually what happens in those sort of things so obvious. It goes the opposite direction. So I'm just saying this obvious. It's not obvious. Correct. That's what I'm going with shack. I'm glad you can understand your logic. Well, you know, stuff, Jim. For more of this nonsense. You can join us on extra time. Am I think you see hanging around halston questions? Privilege. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes a one point seven percent decrease in finished overhead. I know everybody. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance guy. Go are you projected increase in organic Khukri revenue? Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Take a look at the fictious this. We can't let's focus Shali on the match at Wembley Spurs taking on also a huge game was significance regarding the race for the top four spoons. We thought we'd done and dusted. No problem. However, if all's the win, this is just one point then between then and then north London rivals place, according to the bookies, I also United and Chelsea it's Chelsea who favorites that get that full spot shack looking. I it's match who needs to win it. More. Spurs are awesome spruce. Given what we've seen from spruce given where they've been all season long experts. Don't finish the top four. We can double down on accusing them of being spooky as well. For poetry, Tino, given the links with any number of big clubs, if he if he doesn't see this showed if he isn't able to manage your squad unmanaged, it's not just a Finnish fall to the finish food. I think rightly we have more questions about them is not for the first time that we've we've looked at spruce until they've looked legacies. You Christmas break back into January accused him of doing the same. But I thought they responded, well, then expect them to do the mcgettigan sauce. No one hundred percent. This is all about Spurs manning, and it has to be it's a critical game for them two weeks ago. We were having a conversation as to whether they're wearing the title race. Now they're in a race. And not the raise that want to be a part of they lose this game against arsenal. And now they're back in competing against Chelsea. And might just say United and arsenal. So on and so forth. And it would seem like the momentum is heading in the wrong direction. However, given my wonderful passionate relationship was first fans. Oh, yes. It has been passionate. And I have a lot of friends in social media from Spurs. Do you have friends everywhere? Really? Well, I'm on my show. Butterfly. I am a man of the people. They have big asked me very very closely this whole week to pick Spurs. Wow. Because apparently when I speak Spurs, it's my fault, they lose. So. Because again, I'm a man of the people I'll go with arsenal. I'll go with arsenal. The marina coups. Well, you can call it. Whatever you want or Spurs. The people. This is a set does a never thought in all my days and shocking you think's gonna bounce back and get top FUNAI prob-. Yes. I think the finish suit, and we're also finishing. I think the finish fifth. I think Chelsea finish six months yesterday night to put them women both three to four of you. Concur. Might just saying that it gets into the top four. I'm nervous about Spurs. I am what about friends of every. Do I say? Funds Doolan pick them though. Right. So that a big gay meanwhile managed to with the challenge to help with the type, that's if they'd be embalming on Saturday livable of colour. So be preoccupied with Amasi side Dombi on Sunday. In theory, when they go into that class against cookie in second place in action twenty four hours before away against Bulworth labial right against that was I'm not so sure I thought looking back to the first leg between these two evidence. Save their best football and Sydney most emotional pressure for football shine, new knee reverse picture where it took a wrong. Gump addition. It took a goalkeeper by England's best to to give Liverpool all three points. No. I don't think Liverpool appling as well as as it did in that first leg and this still carries just as much emotion for forever ton. He did say Liverpool beat watch for five nothing. Yes. But. That was a stunning performance results in a month that I don't think I've been all that convincing. Liverpool better team. Yes. If the the Mogae most of the situation better, surely they get reports. But this is by no means a four one. Shack. Joe? Honestly, what is it would you you make this whole case make up your own competition? Two legs of between Liverpool and Everton, and I was just paying the full pictures all going. Big picture. This is Liverpool. If I had seen them struggle against Wofford, then I would be nervous about ever. I saw a team that say, you know, what? All right. Let's get ourselves going again. And we saw a lot of the good things and make that make Liverpool. A good team Liverpool winning going away. That's small picture. I give big picture small picture. Yeah. You made up your own. Neither did any of that. Now it says, and if you want more of it, of course, you can join us and I'll hold cows the vision. The only time to stop. Buttons extra shocker and ALI'S Shaq because yes. On home. We'll move on with that city's hair is lots of questions say said the first one said, it's the age old who do you support for all Celona Oriole Madrid? Who is it this week which I being accused of this week? It is no ever it is rattle via them said rent for the traditional to to drill in the classical. Yes, always guys too. That often wrong. It's amazing. How often to a winning winning prediction is it? Here's a really I mean. Actually, I think if you the lost ten results he's probably happened as many times as anything else then being a couple of three ones. But if there's been any more of anything than there has been a Tutu's it takes us into the next question, which is what is it like inside the mind of Saint Louis? Well, yes, that's pretty much. Wherever result would Barry. Just trying to find out what it's as very confusing in that it's very very very very when you said to to. And that's like next question. What you're going to ask? What shack was wearing accountable. Not wearing it may be said, it'd be. Get along through nicely. But you. This new I do not wear graphs. I do not wear further. We've seen you would fed new paint as a fun. Was around. I do not wear feathers, my wife, whereas others, right? That's it. So what do you? What did I say you wear shorts? No Dafna show. Those are not very manly shorts. No. It was not like nothing was wearing nothing on Sol. Very manly show was like the Caribbean. Killed. Yeah. That's kill. Krueger was a crooked killed up. You were wearing. This is. About half of the sewage flooded trip right now. To thing. Snow coming as well. And you're not there. And you're also fifty years old having a great week. So he working tomorrow. Really? Talk about some solvable behind domains poor and a foam will they win the Bundesliga or does vine have too much momentum. Now say they'll stay. What was the they are gonna win. They're not looking good. And it's been a free live from free-fall for a while. Now, everybody's pumping the brakes and is not working. It's not working you keep pumping. There's no working. I think yes. This is in the brain handbrake. Handbrake isn't pumping the break with you. Well, yeah. But you'll be you'll have the handbrake. Don't you? No, that's why you got a problem. But what are you doing? What are you doing? The man. Cheka figuring out a final question, y'all. Power rankings. Don't kill yesterday. Why you put lunch to city down? Please. The question is shock and making a mess in the power rankings just to wind the rest of you are just have a system valuable inside. My Solomon rhythm have outcome. My algorithm. That's what you call it. Algorithm. Check because they went to extra time against Chelsea and Boston had two very good results including against their heated and traditional rivals Madrid live up a win being offered. Memo's yesterday. The what's your love and beyond bowl sign. Been undefeated in forever. So you don't know their names. Yeah. Darren defeated in forever. You know, their name, okay. That's it. That's enough of extra time. Oh, if anyone's carnival makes you saying shack at no new. Oh, I'm here. How tweet Niessen pictures showing the shock Olga? Be funny where everybody thank you very much said you'll be supporting Boston all round Madrid tomorrow enjoy that. Flack to all night game sack. His hair. Was somebody? He knew why no grass good ridiculed. No kill forever. That is.

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Ep 11: Great defenders: UK Lawyers for Israel and Bela Guttmann, football's Greatest Comeback

Jonny Gould's Jewish State

45:38 min | 1 year ago

Ep 11: Great defenders: UK Lawyers for Israel and Bela Guttmann, football's Greatest Comeback

"This is what you with the Jewish news. Britain's most popular Jewish newspaper and website with breaking news and analysis claimed blogs and celebrity news. Welcome to join dunes. Jewish state. Thank you for the feedback and support and to the new listeners and subscribe as who come on board with every new podcast now, if you could leave a rating or even review that really helps more listeners discover the show today, we focus on champions of law and football just where is the outrage from the British and European taxpayer over the funding of the Palestinian Authority who use our money to pay convicted murderers who've committed terrorist atrocities in Israel now these attacks are indiscriminate, they kill Jews Christians Taurus of every nation, even their own people from the West Bank, just going about their business in Israel, tens of millions of pounds each year every Bishop pass in is paying in taxes that goes to the Palestinian Authority, a significant percentage of that it goes. Goes to salaries that reward terrorism today, a barrister an author of my guests a defender of Israel using the shield of legal Justice and avoid for the six million using Jewish. Football's greatest hero. The holocaust didn't just account for the murder of six million Jews. But it also devastated Jewish collective memory. The extent that we don't even know who we were before pet, Guatemala and Josie Marino. There was Bella Goodman fella. Good news today. What you say? What are you say the molten game? What would you say about legal Josie Marino pet Guardia for his use of the media to motivate his own players to intimidate the opposition? This was really Goodman's. I'm interested now. Is not interested in your position in this European dot it's to be. It's is your advantage this game in my opinion. He's fifty fifty. Teens I the window but David bowl Cova will recount Bella Goodman's remarkable playing and coaching career to explain the lessons. We may be forgetting about the holocaust. But I if there was ever an organization, which punched above its weight UK lawyers for Israel is it using law to counter, the D legitimization and demonization of Israel UK, lawyers for Israel is a voluntary group of highly skilled legal pros doing exactly what it says on the tin, and while other community organizations and government use political or cultural arguments for Israel, you KFI unlocks injustices by finding breaches of the rule book as you'll hear from chief executive Jonathan Turner. This can lead to fundamental changes in the law, diplomatic successes and even questions in parliament's hostile to Israel. Now, they work includes countering the accessors of the BS the funding of terrorist. Denies ations why credit cards and other electronic payment systems dealing with sports governing bodies and university. Student unions who refused to recognize Israel worse. Try to get them banned. You que Ella? Fi have their plaudits and cheerleaders within the community. But it's the backhanded compliments. They get from anti Zionists that perhaps they have biggest endorsements when it's rather like the joke where a man sits opposite a rabbi on the train in season reading out coulds newspaper. So he asks rabbi you surprise me. Why are you reading that? Instead of a Jewish paper. Well, I gave up tells the man in the Jewish paper I read about rockets over Israel, anti semitism in the labor party, symmetry desecrations, bad news. But in this paper, Jews control, the media, the banks and the government all good news, websites electric, intifada and Mondo vice of both regularly observed the impact you k. If I make and when you hear the scandal of their achievements in how wide-ranging they are. You'll be surprised that you Kayla's for Israel consists of two Nellie fulltime. People husband and wife team barrister Jonathan and solicited Carolina. Plus, a group of voluntary barristers, and lawyers you KFI a funded entirely by private donations and subscriptions, and Jonathan started by explaining to me how it's all set up. It is an association of lawyers who use legal skills to support Israel. We'll have an associated charity you can buy charitable trust, which deals with education relating to lure and his rail and also helps victims of antisemitism, particularly antisemitism related to Israel. And is there an anti semitic function here in this country to absolutely it is a major issue that we've face in Britain's days, the resurgence of antisemitism and the. The increase in coverage of it. And reach it, particularly with the stability of the internet to magnifies these antisemites saying in a sense, the internet has provided the legal industry and the legal framework with a real to action. That's right. I think there are other factors as well. Let's have affected the growth of anti sem-. What are they I think there's a real problem with media coverage of Israel. That is also stated with the extensive use by organizations hostile to Israel of international bodies producing and using their very large resources to produce propaganda. That's gainst Israel, portrays completely distorted picture of Israel, and how Israel rates let me mention an organization that to perhaps thinking of when you mentioned that the United Nations who. Sent many anti Israel motions. When compared to for example, commands and Iraq and very southern a column of maybe Arab states and sympathetic states to the Arab world that produce a litany of arguments against Israel, which in themselves are problematic, but actually wider than that do prompt kind of antisemitism in the United Nations fifty seven members of the organization these limit conference and together with that developing country allies, they actively control most bodies in the United Nations and therefore able to deploy them to support their efforts against Israel. Now to that end. You say you're a disadvantage you team up with other organizations that are more tooled up. So that you can take them on to- to will. Yes, we work with a large number of organizations in the UK and around the world. Sometimes we do. Joint projects with them. And sometimes we as with them. But I would emphasize that. Although we are in one sense small primarily voluntary organization. We do have some very good lawyers in our association, and we have been able to achieve some I would say quite amazing successes over the few years since we were established. I think our opponents got a headstart on us in terms of using the lower in recent times to promote that 'cause we are some sent catching up, but we are beginning to get our act together on our side. And I think we pay significant part in that Jonathan we really must talk about the incentivisation of the Palestinian Authority in praying. This citizens to kill Israelis. That's what's happening every time a terror attack occurs. Some kind of pension is then played by the PA to the purse. The family that perpetrated the act of terror the murder and these salaries are very high. They go up the more the longer the prison sentence, and hence the more serious crime. And in the case of murders. They are much higher than ordinary salaries paid to doctors, and nurses, and teachers and other people doing proper jobs in the Palestinian Authority. So we've been very concerned about this. The British government transfers very large sums of money to the Palestinian Authority tens of millions of pounds each year out of this and other monies terror salaries being paid in the account for seven eight or nine percent of the Palestinian Authority's budget. It goes to salaries that reward terrorism it will be a point of disgust to every British taxpayer that they are sponsoring murder. That's what's happening. That's right. And so we pointed this out to the government and said that they were committing criminal offenses under British terrorists legislation which prohibits people funding terrorism more transferring funds that may be used for the purpose of terrorism. And so they did change the system now the grants provided by the part within Chesham development paid into a special EU account only used pay salaries of ordinary civil servants. So that that's a slight improvement. Although, of course, it does release other funds for the past authority to pay to the terrorists. But the thing that we found was that Price Waterhouse Coopers the accountants have been auditing the account through which these sums were being paid, including the money to terrorists. So we brought a complaint against PW see under the. Guidelines for multinational enterprises, which require multinational enterprises, and we say Peter is a multinational enterprise, they are required to observe ethical guidelines and to seek to mitigate any adverse effects on human rights of activities in which they are involved, and we said far from mitigating the impact of human rights of this fund. They're actually exacerbating it by providing cover for the British government say this process is all auditor. And we know exactly where our money is going. That's ministers repeatedly toes and peas who queried this these activities, essentially PW see was providing cover for that. And the current situation is that the British national contact point the guidelines, which is part of the department for international trade has held that. There is case that requires further investigation. They may. The preliminary assessment and interestingly PW see their response to it was say, well, our engagement was very narrow tasks to look whether any of this funding was being paid to sport terrorism. So it seems to me that the bigger the business the more international. It is the more amoral it can be which is where you step in. That's right. We are not deterred by persons. We will seek to ensure that the law and regulatory guidelines requirements that that to sport human rights are in force where we can my favorite win really is the one which really launched us because it was right after we formed this when we Roni are very small number of people. But this was the year after the flotilla ring. Putting the Matvey mom rea- had sailed from his STAN bull and had been arrested at sea by the idea, but with casualties Israeli soldiers were badly wounded and nine of the Turkish terrorists were killed now. The following year, the HAMAs ported? People assembled an even bigger fertility of ten ships to sail from Greece, and we managed through legal means to get this quietly arrested import in Greece without having to have that military intervention that is a massive achievement. So no bloodshed Johnson. One of the biggest wins has to be the United Arab Emirates as the stage for international judo where in twenty seventeen Israel had to compete as something ascribed to international competition. Whereas two years later, they could win a gold be Israel and have the Hatikva blade above the ABA Darby games logo. That's right. They in two thousand seventeen the Isreaeli judokas had to compete mealy as members of the International Judo Federation. So rather ridiculously the metal table read. Russia five golds. International Judo Federation to golds and the anthem that was played. When Israelis won the gold with that of the International Judo Federation. We and I say others intervene, but our approach is very specific. We refer to the rules of the sporting bodies the rules of the International Judo Federation prohibit discrimination, and the International Judo Federation is also a member of the International Olympic Committee because judo isn't Olympic sport. And the International Olympic Committee has rules as well. The pre bit discrimination require on Asians be treated equally. So we bring in the rules. And that is a powerful argument. And we were delighted to see following a very clear intervention of the International Judo Federation saying the tournament will be withdrawn from Albuquerque unless permitted Israeli athletes to is ready. Jokers to compete as Israelis abadaka complied, and the Hatikva was played and the metals were credited to Israel and the minister sport myrie Regev was able to attend and talk to the leaders of Abba Darby was shown round the mosque to Abba Darby, VAR alad, Martha beans. What's number? Attention beats to peace and understanding in the Middle East comes alongside the diplomatic progress. That is being made your work, which is strictly legal. It's not political you make powerful arguments using the structure of the law can lead therefore to diplomatic goals being achieved full acceptance of Israel, in sporting competitions and competitors from Israel playing peacefully in sporting and other competitions against all other nations of the world, including Arab Muslim ones are the more important wins sporting area that we achieved when passing in Football Association, headed by former terrorist, you boo Rajoub sought to have these Radi Football Association, suspended fever has a rule which has to member association was not. Organized football matches in the territory of another member association and the person in football associations that will Israel these rarely Football Association is organizing football matches in the West Bank in our territory, and that's country to that rule of see lots of people made submissions, including some very capable missions. On behalf of these rarely Football Association by offer any president on the political aspects of this and the importance of sport. Removing barriers and so on, but we made the specific legal argument based on precedents in the court trae Shen in sport, which is the relevant international tribunal, which has held that a sporting associations territory is not necessarily coterminous with a political territory. And this very good reasons because there are lots of disputed territories around the world, and if you started having to resolve matters on the basis of political claims would be absolutely no end to it. And that was one important component. I think ensuring that the fee for council ruled that they weren't going to intervene in this. And and they weren't good to spend the Israeli Football Association. We also joined with others in pointing out that the Palestinian Football Association was in breach of large numbers of rules, miss notably in promoting terrorism through football, competitions and football names of. Football teams named after terrorists competitions named terrorists. And so only to attention to to all of this and the fief account said we don't want to hear any more about this. We just want to organize football. We've considered the legal position very carefully and satisfied that it's not appropriate for us to take action these rarely Football Association, complied with fevers requests made it to facilitated one of the issues have been the difficulty for Palestinian football players to move around. And that that was a legitimate point. Obviously, there are very serious security issues, which Israel has to take care of make sure that the kid isn't being used smuggle weapons and the terrorists aren't being smuggled around as disguised as football players, but rarely Football Association with the assistance of the Israeli government bent over backwards to and did everything they could to remedy difficulties and. Facilitate the movement Palestinian, dads that was done successfully. And again, that's the kind of thing that actually promotes goodwill and understanding and contributes to everyone playing the game in a friendly way Chakufwa. Absolutely great. Let's talk about unseen anti semitic act. And I'm talking about passenger Mandy Blumenthal versus q eight Airways now Mandy is very very forthright in her Zionism and her anxiety, her anger at this was the catalyst for another case, which you guys one cutaways, of course, met their match with van de Blumenthal. I might say. True enough. So she went along to acute Airways at Heathrow apple and ask for ticket to fly to Bangkok on Kuwait Airways flight and the ticket Clark confirmed that they had to availability. And then Mandy presented her is rarely passport. And the tickets are no conserve its Railly's. We don't sell to kids to Israel. He's now this is blatant discrimination on grounds of nationality. And there is no defense of justification where there is direct discrimination on grounds of nationality under the equality act. Members of UK yours for Israel, assisted Mandy to bring proceedings against Kuwait Airways, which she recovered a significant sum of compensation as well as legal costs and this resulted in extensive. Publicity, including in the Arab world, including in Kuwait. In the reason there was even a question asked in the parliament about this. And again, I think it's very important to get cross. That Israelis must be treated like every other human being on the planet. All of these cases have a common thread. But there is no template for the way that you deal with these matters Jonathan on trying to find a template there, isn't one. Well, there are some areas where things are relatively familiar so student unions in Britain are charities and their objects are generally to promote education at their universities. And so when student student unions are entitled to hold debates about political subjects because that's educational, but then also entitled to organize political campaigns. And there are cases which held. That they went out to organize campaigns against which involvement in wars in Kuwait. And we've pointed this out there equally not entitled to participating campaigns against Israel, and then tries to hold a debate about Israel or debates about any other political subject, but they're not entitled to actually have an active campaign against Israel. And so be DS resolutions at student unions requiring the student union to do this that all the other to promote that's on lawful. And we pointed that out on number -cations. And again, we have established at some extent. Sent a basis for dealing with that. So but each time we come across something new within have to look around to see whether there is a legal objection to it talking about enemy. I mean, this is something that Yaacov Perry told me in my previous interviews that the enemy is listening. And indeed they will be listening to this. We do -cation. The get articles about us in anti-israel journals. Which garters actually something compliment Mondo? Why recently, which is an anti-israel internet publication recently described as the quietest, but one of the most influential organizations combating Palestinians in the UK Middle East monitor. How mass linked term journal had when I was invited to give a talker to APEC a couple of years ago. They had an article about fish speakers take pack, and they said that Tony Blair will be giving his endless wisdom, and then they went on say one of the more interesting speakers from the United Kingdom this year is Jonathan Turner of the organization UK lawyers Ridge's rail and went on to describe our work and said that bad causes need good lawyers to defend them. It's not by being called a good lawyer. It's always encouraging Johnson. Thank. You very much. Indeed. Thank you Jonathan Turner now before pep Guardiola and Josie Marino, there was Bella Goodman. The first superstar football coach. And the man who pave the way for the celebrated coaches of today. More extraordinarily still Goodman was a holocaust survivor having narrowly dodged death by hiding for months in an attic near Budapest as thousands of fellow Jews in the neighborhood were dragged off to be murdered Goodman later escape from a slave labor camp, but he was one of the lucky ones, his father sister and family were all murdered. But by nineteen sixty one as coach Ben fica he'd lifted one of football's greatest prizes the European Cup. And he did it again the following year rising from the death pits of Europe to become its champion in sixteen years. And so therefore Goodman performed the single greatest comeback in football hissed. -tory now I deliberately recorded David bulk over in a noisy cafe as it was in this environment. The Jewish football social aspect was conducted in the coffee houses of Budapest Prague and others. Bella Gutman is a holocaust survivor a holocaust survivor who won the European. He was almost murdered in Europe. His family was murdered in Europe. And then he went on to win the most prestigious sporting competition, very same continent. Sixteen years later, sixteen years later. Definitely a Hungarian Jew or Jew. Because what he was. I think Hungary lost the right to call. This. Great hero, a Hungarian given the treatment of Jews, including Pella Goldman's family joined the holocaust and he's made his name in politics in Vienna. That's right. As a player he made his name in in Vienna. Playing for her great Zionist football team of the nineteen twenty s where he was the center hall from that title winning team of nineteen twenty five. They also told around the world. Vienna. With one of those players I tried to convey to how much they were loved by the Jewish world. How much these people were films rather Jewish were one time. They ride in Poland in nineteen twenty four to play a preseason game in July, ninth twenty four and ten thousand people just meeting them at the train station in Walsall's just to greet them. They went to New York in nineteen twenty six on the record soccer game, which then stood for another fifty years. These people were household names throughout the world. When I went to a bounce house museum until Aviv. I noticed a picture of some of the giants in Palestine, and it was like league championship celebrating the streets. Disney were flooded. That's right. I had a tangle with George Galloway who really demonstrated his fabulous. Ignorance when he pulled out the. Documents of Palestine fills with the tweet reset. And they said there was never a Palestine coast team was made up of Jakob layers and various players from Berlin from Budapest observing. He's a legendary figure not just for the fact that he was the first non Real Madrid manager to on European count. But he played for the time greatest Jewish football team. It's amazing actually how few Jews even Jewish football. Now about this incredible story for me. This is the most gripping tragic story in the history of football. Let alone a Jewish football story. Coffee were not just a Jewish football team. They're also equal Zionist football team. They were proudly Jewish. There were many Jewish football teams in Europe. And a lot of people know these stories the stories of by Munich, I exam, Saddam, for example. However being different that the Jewish. He was actually etched the whole structure of the club. They wore the blue and white of the Jewish national movement. They wore a large star of David on their shirts on they were heroes throughout the Jewish world. And they were despised by the supporters of their opponents in Austria, and despite the huge hatred. They won the Austrian league in nineteen twenty five thirteen years before the Angeles thirteen years before the club was closed down and his results were annulled by the Nazi history books. I'm delighted to tell you that one of the first books I ever had as a child. Figuring Panini in nineteen seventy eight had all the national champions of all the countries and checking back in nineteen twenty five very was that Covina had been restored to records. And this is where our journey comes together, which is an incredibly proud. Grandson and grandnephew to prominent plays in side. They were first team as they played regularly. My grandfather, Begnaud persona and my Rachel Khoo. Millo persona was a regular first team in nineteen twenty seven played with movies. Here's the Jews were very integral in the development of football before the war. There are a lot of great Jewish coaches and the whole central European style of football, which culminated in Hungary, beating England in nine hundred fifty three that style of football, passing style of the more cerebral style of football with an emphasis on strategy and tactics, which English football happen up to them really neglected focusing on the physicality much more than. Much more on on thinking on that Stella football very much. Founded by the Jews of central Europe. It's this term muscular Jews you hear so much in the development of Israel before nine hundred forty eight and now into the early years of nineteen forty eight. That's sudden migration the survivors from me Atlantic clubs of central Europe middle Europe to building with him and the towns and cities. This is where this cultural. This whole idea which was coined by these mucks Nordahl, muscular football. It was really the basis for these sports clubs. Never all over all over Europe. It wasn't just her car. Many other great Jewish schools throughout your espousing. This idea of muscular Judaism, whose mcabe of Warsaw keyboard, prog Bacher Berlin on the most famous Hakoah Vienna. I guess they rejected this image of the Jew. Weak defenceless. I'm the went onto the sports field stressing emphasizing this idea that Jews could be as strong as the gentile compete with gentle unto feed them in physical activity. Wouldn't you to swing again, what you said to me which made me cry actually at the Muench of your book at the library off to make jokes the way make better accountants on moyer's. Than we do sports place. This joke was very deeply embedded in Jewish culture. For example, in the in the in the film airplane in nineteen eighty the great American comedy, elderly Jewish woman. This comes over on. The woman says to the hostess have you got anything very light to read hunter this tiny leaflet, and you can see the headline famous Jewish sporting heroes. And I used to find these jokes amusing like many Jews do now I find deeply upsetting because what they show is the holocaust didn't just account for the murder of six million Jews. But it also devastated Jewish collective memory to the extent that we don't even know who we were. It was murder. Joined the war is community was wiped out many of his friends and former teammates were killed on. I think originally he got this feeling of it's me against the world from his time high coffee, Anna because this was a team playing a missing most polling hostility modern day football funds. Let's talk about the the unim- oddity the hostility in football grounds. Don't boats about oh, I went to the Spurs game yesterday, and you should've seen while the funds were abuse. They were hurling at each other. And there was spitting in each other with fighting in the ground afterwards. This is nothing compared to what her car. Vienna. Had to face both the players their officials on that funds. Let's mind thirteen years after a cough one to twenty five the Nazis marched into a welcoming. Australia and many of the funds of the opposing team's card. Had to face. Were perpetrators of the holocaust against Jews, including of course, many of funds throughout central and eastern Europe. There is a legend handed down in my family about the day that had Coa won the title. And the opposition was so furious. The idea that they twenty two men broke out. I don't know about that. History of does get confused. There was there were certainly brawls on the pitch involving her car. Vienna. Guman himself sent off at least two occasions one occasion. He admits. To spitting at one of his opponents for insulting. For making unsystematic remark. And in. In America, when they went on tour in nineteen twenty six it was also another incident, which Goodman, go into a fight on the pitch and as a precursor to many of his anti-establishment tirades throughout the years. Goodman was sent by the referee, and he refused to go and the referee kept pointing to the dressing rooms and Goldman said in Hungarian to him. What are you going to do Suming me? I'm the game continued. Defected. He got a visa to go into the United States went to New York. But that's such a good football that incredibly stupidly. He took a job back in Hungary. And by the time, he got sacked Tory moved on from the club. It was too late to go back. I just find that. Unbelievable. He was then in an attic thing protected by his. That's right. Nine hundred thirty eight when Bella Goodman was a coach actually a Hakoah. He was the last coach car before the Angeles. He got a visa to go to the United States, not just a temporary permanent visa he could've lived there for the rest of his life. If he wanted to. So he was there in New York in the summer of nineteen thirty eight. But there was nothing going on in football in New York in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight football and being a big. A big thing in New York in the nineteen twenties died by nine thirty eight. So what did Bella Gutman? Do. He got wind of a job at a great hung Aaron club, boy passion, and he traveled to your how many Jews bury my by this time the summer of nineteen thirty eight there would Jews throughout central Europe ringing round, the various embassies consulates trying desperately trying to get a visa if not for them then to send their children away without them. That's how desperate they were. There was sending their children away without them on their own. But Bella Gutman returned to Europe. Because he got wind of this job. He loves people so much the he risked his life for football and the following year nineteen thirty nine having won the Hungarian league Pesch. Pesch Hungarian league being the league in your time a long long possibly with the Austrian on the Italian leagues, and he won the metro pickup which was then the primary interstate club Cup at that time the precursor to the European Cup. He got sacked in nineteen thousand nine because he was a Jew. It was too prominent. And so we had to leave his job. But he was stuck in Europe. By that point. He couldn't get to. So let's Ford. In these six European. He was and became a European champion. And then what do you know, he retained it? Against the odds. Three two. We also won against the rail Madrid themselves in nineteen sixty two the funniest thing about Bella is he still has a holdover been, of course, he was a man who exacted a person the said, you'll never win any. In a final yet because of the Wayne shoot after we won on second European Cup to this day and figure never won a major. Because of Bella in heaven. That's right. That's one of the most famous things about Bella. There's one on one story people know about Bella govern that's likely to be it after he won the European Cup. The second time in nineteen sixty two it's alleged that he approached the Benfica board of directors and he said to them listen up twice. I want more money. One of the features about one very important features in terms in terms of football history about Bella Goodman, is he was he was really the first football coach to assert the key importance of the couch to demand, the appropriate financial recompense. Coach's up to that point had not been very well paid because it was felt generally that it was the players brought team success not the coach. Now, could you imagine? Now if pep Guardiola won the European Cup twice with the city. And he said to his direct cause I want more money. What do you think they would say it would of course, eight write your own check in nineteen sixty two that wasn't the case. It's very interesting to look back in district like that. So the pen fee dot director said no, you not having any more money. This is how the story goes. So he said to them. Okay. Not only in my leaving. But you've been fica not win another European Cup for one hundred years since that time been have appeared in eight European finals lost every single one. This led to another incident in nineteen ninety when you save you the grateful play the greatest ever, but fica player good discovered plucked from obscurity in from Mozambique in nineteen sixty nine hundred ninety. Benfica qualify for European Cup. Fine. You save your hugged. But that stage retired and Goodman had died died in nineteen one. The final year was to take place in Vienna. Where Bella Gutman was buried. He's buried in the central frito Jewish section of the central the central cemetery in Vienna on the day of the game. You save you goes with Benfica delegation to the grave, Bella Gutman. You you. It is said knelt before the grave of and begged is former mental to lift the curse. But obviously Bella refused. Balon? Won the game one nil against been freedom. Just to give you an idea of how isolating football. What was that his tastic coach? But it was only Port Vale that even took a look at. They didn't. Bomber of them. Yes. It's amazing. Isn't it? But. The nobody was at no talk club was interested in Gutman, despite the fat not only was he the greatest coach in the world of that time. But also 'cause he spoke fluent English fella. Good news alive today. What do you say the Morten game? What would you say about legal and choosey marine your pet Guardia making his rainy football, obviously have been at some point the manager of the national Israeli teen. He I think would love Monday football because what we see in the last few years is a real emphasis on talking for more. And he would certainly love the wake while the place. Although Marino is often compared to Goodman, quite rightly for several reasons for his use of the media to motivate his own players to intimidate the opposition. This was really Goodman's. No, I'm only interested Saadi, but there were differences between marina and most importantly, Goldman loved talking football Marino Marino's emphasis as always being onto -fensive organization. Goodman once said, I don't mind nil nil. Mills finds the latest school. I just will never accept it as a school. He would be a superb pundit because he was always going against the grain. He was it was very original thinker to always say things would make you sit up, and listen, he wasn't just going to just repeat the mantras. Everyone else was saying so he would have been fantastic on the TV as a mom, they pundit. But Israel, people always ask me, why didn't Goodman end up in Israel like so many of. He's friends from central Europe manage to survive, the holocaust now, I think the Goodman was only interested in football. And he was not ideological person. He was not a political person. His dried was to be the greatest football coach in the world. Israel was at that time joined Goodman's career and still is a relative footballing Buckhalter don't think Israel interested in as a place to live despite the fut- he was so isolated as a Jew in Europe. What is the message of Goodwin's life as a Jew to Jews today of the twenty th century? I think messages the holocaust was no one off. I'm the message. Also is it wasn't just the Nazis. Participated in the holocaust. There are two Deborah look stop divides holocaust denial into two. She talks about the hardcore holocaust denial in which people denied the holocaust took place or say, the holocaust the numbers involved in the whole of deep lakes were exaggerated. She also talks about softcore holocaust denial, and I think personally, the holocaust. Smell takes two forms. One is saying that the holocaust was a blink some sort of ration-. We must learn from what a terrible event, we must learn from from it and movements. Never let it happen. Again. On the other. It was. It was the Nazis carried out holocaust. There were many instances of an simmers throughout the centuries and Bella Gutman suffered from them. Many times apart from joined the holocaust, for instance, in nineteen twenty there was the Hungarian white tariff, which he fled, Hungary and three thousand hunt. Garin Jews were murdered. Also, it's not true to say as Bella Gutman's life proofs, just the Nazis who carried out the holocaust. They might have conceived it, but the whole of Europe participated in the holocaust, and that's a message that we've lost. Somehow. I think paulie mainly because non-jewish Europe doesn't like not truth. But if you take one look Bella Goldman's life story. You will see that true shining out. That's David Volkova. If you could leave a rating or even review that really helps more listeners discover the show thank you for this. This addition of Johnny Jewish thing.

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"Welcome to the ringer. PODCAST network over the Thanksgiving holiday. You can catch up on recent podcast episodes across our network this week alone Sean. Fantasy ranked the top up ten movies of the decade on the big picture. Mallory Rubin argued that we should be eating Thanksgiving meals every day of the year on the hottest. Take Joe Maury talked about the Houston Rockets near finals. Appearance on the book of basketball and they're watchable covered the best bond film of All Time Sky Fall. You can listen to these episodes wherever you get your podcasts. and happy thanksgiving from the ringer taking. I bought Ringer. F C. This is on equality east coast bureau chief at the ringer here on the West Coast in. La joined by my colleagues to my left. But one only Chris Ryan I feel like I'm in one of those legends. Elevens you know like when you come on and you're in your forties and you just do like fifteen minutes at the mercy like testimonial Yeah Kinda. That's Kinda sad to write. I've Konin Evans. What's up Tony? Happy to be here. I'm happy you're here today. We're GONNA talk about a lot of things the Champions League action we just witnessed most importantly the Pacino sacking and the Josie Marino hiring at Tottenham Hotspur birther. But first let's talk about the match we just watched at the Bernabeu Real Madrid to ps g to pulsating madge. We had his up on our feet in studio what. Let's say you connor. Yeah it was. It was a great match. And obviously we're going to make everyone annoyed starting off by talking about There's really nowhere else. To begin in Madrid were amazing At the start should have been up to three early on And then there was just an incident towards the end of the first half not work. Tibo courtois took down was initially shown a red for a foul on a card in the box. Referee went back to check it and I it sounded like he was just seemed like he was going to check to see if it was in the box. It was kind of on the edge clearly fouled in the box clearly clear goalscoring. All scarring Lehman on a two in France. Two thousand so I'd have to say that is that's a that's a way back machine right there. Yeah but yeah and then they call back in the end. He ended up spotting pushing the backcountry Marcello earlier in the move that set up the counter attack and basically invalidated everything that happened after that it and we had to forget everything that followed it and if we could just go back in time just apply Varda all the I was thinking my mind when I thought of Lehman because I thought of it in the moment I also have take on Var which is well. There's many takes to be had on Var but that the pushing in the back is now kind of being heavily. Litigated by and you saw it actually in the Liverpool match against palace I mean. Of course what's that was in the box but players to get away with those little slide two-handed shoves the not getting away with it. I mean you're allowed to put your hands on another individual in the emotion. It's the pushing motion and Marcelo fell but it was also an instance where the referee clearly a hand signal. Worry waived him on so he saw it. And you know gently one of those. We've seen enough of these decisions decisions where you're like well. I haven't actually seen that before. The referee actually used his discretion. Did make a call and then actually called called the play by. I think it was a group stage match that it doesn't really matter but then scored two goals. PSU came roaring back courtois. Idaho learned Bobby scored which is why it's kind of ashamed even talk about it because the second half was when everything just kind of turned to it became a it was an incredible game that brought a Neymar at halftime at prodigal son he he changed the complexion of the game in the second half It looked like Benza. Had KINDA put them up two nothing done and dusted And then courtois who probably maybe Madrid would have been better off if he was not in the game kind of spilled one out there The PS g pulled up within two one and then an incredible finish towards the end Incredible goal at the end Worse Arabia scored and it looked like it for the last ten minutes or so it look like a team could have walked out of there with three point and then the dramatic moment at the death free kick for Real Madrid just outside the box. Gareth Bale much-maligned Gareth. I felt better. I mean immediately wanted left us what I just said. Actually the the balls in there and Kinda said that's good it's good it's so cleanly Even even got the narrative he walking he was walking off. Yeah would have been interesting to see. What the celebration would have been like their Wales's Gareth Bell? He would have done well. Wales Madrid golf switch. which the order you would have had a little kind of a golf celebration but so pse and Madrid are both going through in group a the other big match today was Josie? Marino's first match as Tottenham manager at home Olympia jumped out to a two nil lead within I think twenty one or twenty two minutes spurs came storming back four unanswered I think to from Kane remember who else scored the goals. But they won. Forty two so josie now to know much-maligned surge. Orient gotta go in there too. He did. Beautiful Volley Kevin Clark was saying in our slack. That surgery is now an elite right back which to good bit too good but Kevin Yeah. I asked him elite at what. But I mean you know quality finish So Josie to a his tottenham manager. Let's just the rest of the Champions League results city tie was shocked are when one You've abd let it go when nil but all the favorites are going through. So let's pivot. Now how to Tottenham Hotspur last week reseal Pocchettino after five and a half seasons at the club was unceremoniously sacked. Josie Josie Marina within twenty. Four hours was hired rather ammonia sleep rather ceremoniously Chris. I know you have a lot of mooncakes. But let's just start with Patino. Being fired was was that just fate. Well my favorite kind of Of English soccer stories one that has multiple sides that get lead through the press and I thought it was really like a fascinating week of love. At first it was like obviously taken this team. As far as he could under Daniel Levi's like iron rule and then slowly but surely start getting the counter narrative. Tired of coming out about how he'd been sulking since the Champions League all the players stop listening to him and he had basically been putting himself in the shop window to get higher by other places and talking about how you know he would be interested in new challenges and stuff like that I love how like teams will brief different papers on on certain narratives and managers and their ages will brief different papers on certain narrative. So it's been really fascinating to see this play out. You choose to believe they leave. He just decided to get rid pot or you can choose to believe that this was more or less an amicable divorce that turned an amicable because potch was like I am not quitting. I I want my buyout. But either way we wind up with one of the most interesting stories of the season so far which is Marino not in a top dog slot in a kind of underdog chip on his shoulder a club. That's always kind of felt second-best in north London to say nothing of England and What kind of attitude he brings to Tottenham? I'm so fascinated to see see it. He's saying all the right things and you can clearly see that he's in there's been some reports that he's gone on a bit of a press tour publicity tour himself where he's he's learning how to kind of Funnel Izzo Narrative Narrative. He's he's learned the lessons from past failings. He's he's understands how to adapt you know how to How to relate to the modern player but some ways patch set him up perfectly perfect right? He's got an incredible talent playing way below their level. You know anything he does is GONNA be in the positive for the season. I mean when you know Marino obviously it was a sky sports pundit before returning to management and I had clipped this in tweeted it prior to the season in August she had mentioned you know like who can contend for the title and he had spurs in their Man City Liverpool Spurs and. Then he said Man's ladies be team kind of being facetious but he's obviously graded this squad highly and I guess once you get the past the initial surprise of Josie being at Tottenham. It does seem like it could be a good fit. Well it's exciting. It's exciting because I think that we've looked at anybody. Who's he's follow? I I pretty much got into following the game right as he was rising right at Chelsea. And right as you come over from Puerto to England so that's like around four or five is when I started really following the English game and so he's been a constant of my soccer watching for the last fifteen years and he's never been lovable. You know he was. He was the evil prince when he arrived in Chelsea. UPSET APPLECART HIS SPELLS INTER ENRA-. Al were very successful but pretty much dominated needed by this kind of like he hated the press. He hated the rest of the League. He was a poor sport. Poking guys in the is playing this anti football park the bus bullshit. This is a real chance for him to somewhat redeem his reputation. Because I do think you know at the best. The best version of him can get a lot out of a little and he has more than a little tot. He's rejuvenated and I think he he needs. He needs a useful foil he needs an adversary needs to create a kind of controversy to kind of motivate himself himself and I think I don't think he had that mentioned and I think that's even more Daniel Levy might be good for him to like. Ed Woodward was just not I was was not a was not at his level. You know he's punching down. Joseph was punching down when he was taking shots at him and I think that that might be good for him to have someone. Even if does get contentious. Yeah I think that the rap on him was that if you higher him you're GonNa need to also have a quarter of a billion euros and transfer funds immediately available for him to remake the squad but we don't know that for sure that's just what he did at United he walked in just like this is shit. I need all new players and no I don't particularly want develop your teenagers. The squad he's inheriting at Tottenham One would argue is better squatty inherited at Old Trafford. Yeah I would definitely in some continuity I think maybe inter- is his stint at Inter is a better a a better kind of a parallel for what he's going through now because you know he that's more about like you said just taking guys who clearly weren't responding to whatever voice was in the locker room and getting them to raise their level again again. There is also a unity in meritas personality and a teams personality to enter in a way. That hasn't happened since then where it was like. He had guys like Matterazzi Matterazzi guys like Ato who he was like. You will play fullback for me. Samuel Eto and he was like hell I will. I will and he hasn't hasn't had that kind of buying and a while it's been fascinating to sort of see how he has been pretty open about like. I do not expect to have like a full boat of transfers coming in January. I understand this is the team I have. And even singing from the Daniel via book on Erickson where he seems to just be kind of like look to decide like how much he wants to commit to this team for. Now we're not talking about the future we're talking about now. Erickson though did feature today came in at the half and had an assist. Yeah so it's the perfect switch to because poach was such a demanding manager when it came to the physicality of the team. Everything was predicated on high up the field pressing Marito's Rio's notoriously more conservative manager. Although from what I understand has a couple of different people in his backroom this time around no roof area like he's got like this guy who who I think was at Lille and his is perhaps going to introduce some new tactical ideas. So I'll be really interested to see that but you know when's the next door to London. RV It's coming up. I think two things I'd add to that I mean one. The question of transfers. I think he's saying the right things. Now we're GONNA find out real quick but he couldn't have gone into this job under any other impression. You know what I mean like like united literally. There's no price tag that you can't match so I'm sure he was just like this is maddening. And why won't you just buy me Harry Maguire. I'm asking for him. Just go. Just go pay the fee and then as soon as I leave you go get him here. It's like I. There cannot be any any mystery as to whether or not he has the money out there to go get team. Oh verner or something like that. Like he knows what he's got. I think that underdog sort of a relatively narrative Sukhum and I think that that's why or so he signed a four-year contract and everybody knows it goes to shit in the third year He's on fifteen million pounds. A year reportedly two million bonus if they make it for you. They qualify for the Champions League. Next season I mean what are the odds that you seem real living out this for years years with them. Over the as it you ever saw him to join Tottenham and the crazy thing that this is actually GonNa really has the makings makings of beautiful marriage and early days. Obviously presumably he could have waited out for P. S. G.. He could have waited it out. See what happened with. UvA He could have waited it out to see if inter opened up again again if content left after butting heads with ownership. They're like he seems to be clearly. There's gotTA jobs out there. He could back to route. I think he loves living in London. I actually I think that's a that's A. He was living in a hotel in Manchester. And I think like you know yes that they're the challenge wasn't to his liking but you know he was just unhappy. I just seem like he was bored and he was unhappy. I think this has. He's relishing this opportunity a little bit too but I still think again. It's all these things kind of play into one where he is a guy that needs to you. Know he's going to need to go in in there and he's GonNa find a few guys that he's GonNa take under his wing and just make his guys he's also going to do the opposite with a couple of guys he's GonNa find a few guys and he's GonNa Kinda put them on the French he's going to isolate them and he's going to make them you you know he's going to kind of create. This kind of you know scapegoat them for whatever you know pass regime failings and all of those things but the fact that remains to that you can't bring in. He's going be very limited in the resources that he can to bring people. I like the idea that there's like. Maria said that Manchester City's squad could win the Premier League. I like the idea of marinas like the guys that Marina fell out with could win the Champions League. Roy Mosala is it fair to say they fell out he like he didn't get much out of them didn't see the point his he's argued that like debris and saw that he was a wrong on them that they just weren't necessarily like the guys for that moment but A team of a you know a frontline of marcial debris and Sala would pretty much be the favorites. You know at any any PA Gilo eager and key in the net. Let me ask you something. This is one thing I really wanted to discuss. Are you as gutters fans scared of Marino annoyed that you don't have Marino on your bench or indifferent terrified. China terrified that he's there also but I also would say to Donavan talked about this. I did not want him for Arsenal. Yes that's the thing Chris. When you mentioned before Marina NAPPING UNLOVABLE I? I don't know if lovable is the Ericson used but his charisma I think is you know I mean the British media of course eat it up but you know I love having them in the premier league and I was really getting into the idea the mind fuck of him being the manager of because you know they were rumors. Obviously before he went to Tottenham I wouldn't say I'm terrified of him. But unlike Connor I would've been happy to welcome to replace Emory to real. He may be a Vassar. Billy at least these are bastards. You kind of thing with him. I mean you Chelsea fans still hold him in high regard. Yeah Yeah I mean so. It's it's it really if he had managed Liverpool for a spell. Oh you might have a different feeling or I can never understand with him because he said a couple of times that there are certain clubs in England that he just can't manage and I don't know there would never be a Manchester United. Aided manager that managed at Liverpool. I still think now. He'll never manage our personal either. You know. I still think that those there are certain boundaries that can't be crossed his response though and he brought up his comment. Common about never managing Tottenham. That was before I got sacked right. And who's kind of smiled. He is he is. He's Gen Y.. Back to the idea of Marino's guys quote unquote you. You know for Spurs a lot of people are putting Eric Dire Who is a person that kind of fell out of favor with Pacino who Marino reportedly wanted to buy united He you know dire started the first two matches of jobs. As rain at Tottenham also Deli Ali is someone that's kind of not been at his best in the last season or so. I think daily alleys the one to watch dire I think is the obvious choice because he has kind of you know destroy your quality that Marino always likes and probably could be useful in that mix Ortiz East fluently. Yes but I think daily is the one. Because he's the one that's probably most indicative of just the Malays and the stagnation. That's kind of set into that squad because you know they have made up for the fact that they haven't brought in reinforcements for the fact that every player in that roster has raised their level each year. You know everyone in the squad talent The quality and the squad has gotten better every year and a lot of that is due to punch Tino but a lot of due to the fact that they just had really good players. who were all in this kind of cycle of progression Similar Times Delhi. I don't think that that he's he's plateaued somehow for their injuries. Through whatever reason of the last eighteen months and he's the one where I think that that's when he seems like he's Kinda got that personality where he needs. It's not so much that he needs a tactical position or he just needs someone to go in there. It's kind of light a fire under his ask a little bit while we were talking about Marino possibly evolving as a manager You know obviously small sample size two matches in charge. They scored seven goals. It was three to over West Ham over the weekend in the League for two today. Do you think Josie gets a little unfairly. Maligned as like an overly defensive manager or part the bus type of guy by a lot of lands. Don't want him his lack of success. Szeswith united who were seemingly a great attacking side in the making when a long way towards towards that also his his reputation with Ray al given the the striking striking talent yet on that side. Although they did quite well under him I would also say just look at what social science done since Maria left in. It's not like they've set the world on fire fire and they still can't defend so for me. It's like I think it's more about Marino. Being the kind of manager like Ferguson was to basically reinvent his tactical systems over this time and still use his man management as is like kind of his forward progress it's basically using his management it as his calling card but always remixing the tactics in the background. Yeah just a word on Patrick Tino and where he might go next first of all kind of mirror image. It's Kinda like the flip where it's like marinas now dropping down a level and the assumption is the potch is GonNa jump up a level right right so he went from Southampton to Spurs and presumably his next job might be with a a European power. I was talking actually on the day that he was sacked with my colleague. Bangladesh in New York who doesn't follow soccer but we were just talking about. Who is like the American coach coach equivalent of Patrocino? And we came up with. Let me see what you guys think of this Brad Stevens like say Brad Stevens and Celtics at started really really poorly this season. He had kind of an idea and a plan. That's been building over subsequent seasons but fell apart. Then he got let go. How attractive would he be the coaching free market? I think he's got the quality of a guy is is I know for me. He's closer to Tibbs detective ago where air he has a very physically demanding system. Dog Matic may execute correctly. We'll get results relatively fast. And it took him a while but he was able to basically rang out all the talent from a bulls roster and make derrick rose into an MVP and bring Jimmy Butler along and he was really good with like this. Core Core Group clash with the front office a lot as poached to levy and then eventually kind of his voice stop. Stop meaning anything into the team around him and he was let go. It'll be interesting to see. tibbs obviously went to Minnesota got. The president coach. Job had the full boat which is a possibility posssibility for poach like if he goes to row goes to Byron. I mean he won't have that much power those clubs 'cause clubs such active front offices but it'll be a a real test of whether it's system works for the overdose rather than the underdog so connor bioern real the clubs at Christie's mentioning those guys if they don't win trophies no trophies if we're to believe if you're kind of the reports that trickled out her to believe that he was. He was angling for some of those jobs. I think he was waiting. He was hoping thinking that one of those jobs. What's GONNA come open? Probably he probably waited a little too long if that was his intention. Because those jobs came open past And then when it came through when it came time again and we was probably ready to jump at the highest level. He just didn't take the could have had the united Europe to potentially. Yeah and Madrid was open. You know twice Weiss at least during the time of his his essense I you do wonder it's not so much kind of the the overdose underdog. It's it's the communication and the actual messaging to players at that level uh-huh because it's easy to do it when you have guys who are kind of on the up who were young who were kind of not making when you have a superstar kind of locker room. That's where I think that that's where Marino the fascinating kind of exposition. The Marino's career is because he can do both. He can kind of go into a locker room with guys. Kind of convinced them that they're no one believes in them and that they have so much to prove and then he can walk into a locker and be like I'm warrenpoint. Uh of superstardom say the most important person in this. I think it works both ways right when it's going if it's not going perfectly but is going well. He can absorb any pressure. That's on the the team. And he was so good at that. At Chelsea they would draw with the team and he would walk out and just start raging about the other manager the other teams manager in the press and the rafts and all of a sudden you stop thinking game by John Terry slipping you know what I mean. It goes both ways though so if he does that he calls the draws all the attention to himself and guys like papa or guys like Marcus rush for like. I'm pretty important player. I'd like to get some attention as well. I heard on the on the continent podcasts or last week when this just it's happened they were talking about how. If you're Manchester United. You should break the bank to get pushed him right now because otherwise there could be upwards of half a dozen marquee European jobs open when the summer hits because you could see. PS G. U.. ventas Byron wral. And possibly I mean possibly jobs all be in contention for purchase services with not that many marquee managers available available. Yeah I mean the problem I guess if you call it a problem is that united had been winning as of late or turn their season somewhat around so the you know the time to fire probably would had been like a month ago. No you go in you say Old Trafford you pick your own technical director Woodward gets out of Your Business. We have all the money in the world to get anybody you want. Seventy million pounds shirt sponsor whatever Price Nate Nate. Like you've basically right the deal five year deal and we give you millionaire whatever. Yeah I guess it could still happen this summer. Conceivably I mean do you think patrocinio would ever come to emerets I again. I think I think he's going to say no. I think he's GonNa have his choice of jobs. And when those jobs lined up the way that Chris has described the emerets is GonNa be. I mean maybe. He doesn't want to leave London. Not In the top five. Yeah while he does are still have more. More money than Tottenham they spent more and their stadiums paid for such a toxic atmosphere and really does that because I think that I think vetches resurfaces he he got he comes back to the place that he left and I don't think he doesn't strike me as kind of that wouldn't be healthy for him. I also think that he probably holds taught them slightly higher regard than that as a club club to go coach their archrivals as his next job. Yeah that's fair and I think he's ready to prove himself. I think he I think he was really expecting. I think his next job is going to be one of those top four or five jobs that Chris describe all right on that note. We'll take a quick break and come back and talk about the rest of the Premier League there are always more ways to win on federal sportsbook. And it's easy to get your winnings when you want them with vandals sports books cash-out feature. You can enter bed early and claim your cash with the push of a button and plus vandals fast payouts. 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Liverpool ripple at one eight points in eighty fifth minute or later including at Selhurst Park Chris you watch the match. Yeah I did I. This is the world's smallest violin playing for anybody complaining about KLOPP pige time. If you live through any of the Alex Ferguson era. I can't believe you sound good. It's almost as if they're an exceptionally talented attacking team that just wears teams down and all of a sudden takes their chances. This is at the end of the game. Speaking of worrying people down though this is this is a pretty unique in tough. Like eight points. Clear after thirteen is like it's really early like you're just praying not to lose. I'm heading into December. Yeah the busiest and you know he is definitely settled on. Probably it's the best in terms of like your trance transfer market value or or certain statistics. Or even your fee for game player ratings but this is the best eleven world probably right now is best keeper best fullbacks Best centre-back best attacking trio and midfield. That just does all the work and In every player on the bench fits brings satisfies a core function of starting eleven but also adds something a little bit different and they won on Saturday without Salah. Yeah and I'm petrified. That any of them rainy at hurt. And it's it's when you have something that tight and balanced you just freak out about like. Oh Gosh what happens if g when album goes down like I am actually in that point where I'm like I don't know if ox can replace him. I don't know if lawn. I can replace him so nobody wants to hear me. Say that because everybody it's just like go. Fuck yourself a little nervy on Saturday. It's nervy every weekend. Yeah it's never every weekend there's no really such even the to the to nothing's three ones like they're like okay. Yeah let's get to the end now. Yeah I I think the thing that's so disorienting about is how early it is in the season. It feels like it's a very long season. Even though it's been thirty matches I agree. It seems like this. Winning streak has been going on forever and it's like we'll never pullover drop points. We say it every episode. Do you have feelings about the Liberal Cup it. It should be light work. If we're if the club series about being like a dominant world club you know what I mean like if I on one hand I understand the issues with like playing time and you. Don't I wanNA send like reimburse her to go play on the other hand if you want to be taken seriously as a rail Madrid Barcelona level club. You should go out and do your business. I mean it's a trophy see Manchester City two one over Chelsea Gray who was actually. The lowest percentage is one of the best games. I've seen the Susan Lowest Possession for the city team in the PEP Guardiola era Conard you watch that one I did I did. It was and I thought Chelsea were really good early on and city. Just yeah. That's you wish you could see that level from them more often because then Nikolic actually could make it make it a race but it just seems like it happens like three the few times a year and every once in a while they're shocked by like a Lower League team the most the most likeable Chelsea team you guys have ever seen. Yes yes I mean. I think Chelsea fans would have to admit it's pretty like some pretty likable group kids. Yeah I mean. Youth is always exciting and cutting Stephen Williamson and as the old heads and they're just really good. Those guys hey drug to be honest even when he was killing arsenal. What does the math on that? You William but you like drama humanitarian draw. It was great to turn into a of journey. Think of like who my least favorite Chelsea players over the years and it's Jackson. The list is too long long. Do you know after a while. I got tired of seeing carried Kale. Is this like somebody. It wasn't until our in woman left Chelsea that I think I started to like him. It took me a while. Warm warm up to him but those years I definitely of course we have wonderboy American wonderboy Pulisic starting now all the time I love Abraham so. Yeah it's definitely the most lovable Chelsea team Since they would you guys If you're liveable. Let's let's play the role playing for the arsenal fans at the table. Yeah if you were me would did you be more scared of Manchester City or Leicester City. That was the question I was just about to allow definitely city which city Manchester. Ah Mentioned Manchester City. But I I kind of can't believe what's happening at Leicester City and that game coming up soon to write that liberal game brandon Rogers Yeah and and Leicester City's for what it's worth their their on. It's not like they're behind on On goal difference here like they Dr Punching with Manchester City. I watched it was last week. That the lesser city played arsenal. And it's not one of those where you know. Oh we should be there. There've been a lesser city's a better team Arsenal at this point. But but you looked at that starting eleven year like oh every single player with maybe the exception of a bombing. I would take lester in their starting eleven over over anymore anymore. Yeah indeed it would be like the look at it straightaway. Arce when you look at it from from you. Know it's not really the matter too because even and even during the year that they won admirers Vardi and yes they had a pretty solid roster up up and down but let's starting eleven is is is pretty incredible. Two Thousand Nineteen Twenty in two thousand and two thousand. Twenty one are so managed Brian Rodgers who says no. I don't Brennan Says No you. Yeah I think he has a bigger budget lester than he would you know. It's a bigger higher profile. Brennan Rajasa cash on this season as soon as you get whatever whatever job does not because he doesn't WanNa be there when regress if they sell three players and they regress at all he doesn't want to be there like you was a Liverpool in a bag and can't get a job at Swazi and then he is pretty upwardly mobile mobile climber Yeah Brendan is the other thing about Lester. As opposed to Liverpool Manchester City is. They don't have any European fixtures to worry about so it's is really set up for them to make an extended title. Run like Liverpool I keep waiting for Leicester to fall offer to lose. Doesn't seem to be happening. I think they'll be around until until the end they don't have a incredibly tough December they'd get Liverpool while I actually try to resolve that they will have a tough December until they have the toughest December possible where they get villa and origin than they have an fa cup with Everton and plays city on the twenty-first and Liverpool five days. Later on the twenty seconds. So that could be eh if they come out of that with points Dell have to be happy with them themselves. Yeah Watch this space anyway. We talked about Pitino second earlier. There are a trio of managers on the I don't know what's hotter than the hot seat. It's like the baking see. Well when they're this far down the table. Was it just more like a a splinter bench shuttle itchy. It's a splinter bench I'm talking about united. Murray for Arsenal manual pellegrini Halloween for West Ham Marco silver forever. I can't believe Marco Silva survived this long because every week every match afterwards. It's like you know whispers rumors that he's about to get sacked. They've survived this far. They've outlasted Schettino which is something who of these three D. will be first to go. If any I think. All three of them were go offier toast emory so sorry who the threes Ilva Pellegrini and And check this morning. The betting odds have them ranked in descending descending order of most likely to go most likely to go Marco Silva Second Manual Pellegrini third eye emory and I think the kind of the tiebreaker for this is just kind of the fan reaction. Because I I think that motivates that kind of pushes up those decisions but each of those last three games. The reaction in the crowd was just horrendous. They all played home games. They all lost at Orange Arsenal. Didn't lose everything was the loudest West Ham and West Ham. was they were. They were applauding Chelsea fans chanting. You're getting sacked in the morning and they were politely joyously applauding. And what was the Tottenham fans. Were singing how should are you or winning away like like they were just getting like completely doug on and I. It's I'm interested in both talking about Arsenal and West Ham in this context. Both because you obviously ourselves been emmer stadium for a while. They've had great nights there so it's not like it's like some new antiseptic building. But I do think both clubs are in danger of drifting into. You never being happy again. Like I don't understand like obvious ever well. Okay it's just been it's just I think partially I I will be honest. This is somewhat based on like watching youtube fan reaction videos from both fan bases from time to time and just be these like miserable bunch of people and. I'm sure that that if my team was in eighth and we're putting up the results that we were putting up with the madame money you're spending on certain players on your team. I would be pissed off too. But what's take what's WHO's the. Who's the magic the magic solution for Arsenal? I think that's the lingering effects of the whole vendor went out thing is just this Malays kind of has this has become this permanent kind of move. The state of condition that set settled into the club. where it's almost it's almost become part of the identity is just to bitch and Moan and and I and I it's gotten to the point where it's pretty toxic and it's you have to almost separate that from the actual evaluation of what emory's performance ingredient or not? I mean versus. This is painful fingers caretaker for the rest of the season to Christmas when I think worse worse than the anger is apathy and I think that it's drifting towards apathy for some fans and I think I would have to look at numbers I mean we can look at places like Swiss ramble for revenue numbers. You can look at you. There's much it's more informed people than me but it's not cheap to go to Arsenal stadium. No and you're talking about an era In the in global in in sports globally where your attachment to a team is really like it's not local and regional as much as just taste wise and choice. We know just from being around like the rare offices how many fans of PSG Man City we see on a relatively regular basis. You know the idea of getting into football and being like you know either. You're from north London and you have like a familial reason to cheer for Arsenal or you've just gotten into arsenal longtime from teary anri. No you know what I mean. It's been why. Why did you guys is get into the arsenal? It was the first season I ever watched in English. Premier League was when you had that Fox soccer channel izzy visible season. Well and you just. That's what it's supposed to as a fan of the Washington football team. It's a similar thing. I mean obviously arsenault hasn't gone down this far yet but it's like the legacy. How does the legacy hold on the brand new? I think in in some ways the knicks to the there were removed they were revived. They were kind of A. Yeah they they were the idea of what kind of style was supposed to be now. They're they're mood in their vibe. And it's end so many of of vendors blueprints and so many of the things that I think people turn to arsenal for like sumptuous energetic youthful football and watching these teams whether it was wool shirt and Ramseyer on relax barrier all these like answer but like I used to when I would watch Carling Cup games than like Arsenal would bring out ten nineteen eighteen year olds who I know but they were like there were the promise and like that they they seem to doctrinaire into a style of football ready at that age. It seemed like a London version of Barsa to some extent. And now it's gotten so far away from that and it just seems like the loudest voice in the room or the people who are the most angry at the troops in DT You know I would say that our snow. Despite how they've been in the EMORY era it. The team is set up. I think and has enough youth in the squad for someone to walk in whoever it is and succeed of course and that's why I think the answer to your original questions who goes I. I think it's Pellegrini. Because I think that Tottenham game was all about Jose obviously and they made the score that kind of flattered themselves with that scoreline but that was just that was pretty object can you yes they give a single manager that would like fix West Ham is there is it. Because I don't think it's a managerial question. Mark Noble. No you're right. It's not David Moyes being back but you can't fire the players right at some point. Yeah I mean it's and and you know. Are they going to kind of I mean there in that point now too though where an Everton you know kind of is to look at the table. I mean there are only a couple of points above the drop where both of those teams I think have benefited by virtue of their largess of always never being in danger relegation they always bring in that Middle Zone. Chris was talking about Leicester's next stretch of games. Let me read off to Everton's neck stretch games at Leicester Mr at Anfield home to Chelsea at Old Trafford Leigh Cup against Leicester at Arsenal. I'm sorry home to Arsenal personal. So they're basically playing all six teams in the he's not going to get through this month. Yeah I mean he's not gonNA THEY'RE NOT GONNA they're not gonNA get anything off of Lesser or are lower pool. It might have been an argument not to fire him now. Because you don't want to put your new manager in the fire like that immediately with a well I mean look at the marine you hiring. There's just no way that Josie Jose Maria gets hired after forty eight hours. Obviously we're talking to his agent from before that totally that things have been going wrong and taught them for awhile. Perhaps that's why Tottenham was in playing. Well perhaps that's why was a funk was because he knew that these this thing was coming but I don't know like if if Everton has a better her idea they should pull the trigger and I would say that we might look back four or five years from now depending on what happens arsenal and be like man. They should have gotten to when they had the chance like they should have gone for the guy when they were still a Champions League football club and they were. They transitioned from vendor to another exciting fighting tactically minded manager. And I guess when we're emory has success in the past and you say that guys run their Europe file like I mean like. It's not like he isn't good he is. He's won trophies. He's gotten points but like if you guys wanted to call if you guys wanted sorry if there was anybody ever ever the last couple of years. It's like it's a it's a lesson to other clubs who are thinking about changing managers. If you have a better idea go for it if you wait too long to pull the trigger. You'RE GONNA get left behind and I think emory can do you. Yeah he can be successful. He's obviously been successful to your point like it's this job is going to require a certain level of charisma and this is a certain level of personality. A certain vision that is just absent And and you know you mentioned you wait too long. Cli- Gordon Sola was always GonNa go to Manchester City that was preordained. If KLOPP has given the choice between Liverpool and Arsenal so at the moment in which those jobs were opener available if they had pulled the trigger on Bangor maybe he chooses Liverpool. But he's he's you know he's making a decision there. Sure and I think that's that ultimately is kind of the greatest sin of the last three or four or five years and speaking of that management care so mckellar tattoos probably the hottest prospect out there and now how Everton seemed to be angling toward obviously has history at Everton and Arsenal. It would be ashamed of Arsenal missed out on him and he became a manager. He was the one wasn't he like he was like he was it off the board like the art are Ted is about to be named and then it switched out right. It's something about him. Not Having his back staff backroom staff ready or his assistants or something and emory was more more plus not wanting to get those guys he wanted. Maybe here's you have to take But that was the whole disease thing too right. Yeah all right so Liverpool eight points clear at the top. I have some Liverpool adjacent news. We mentioned the club World Cup Chris. You're following this very closely on on Saturday in Lima neutral ground. First Time ever that the Copa Libertadores final was a single match at a neutral ground. Flamengo to one over River Plate the the defending champs two goals at the Dash fucking scenes scenes Gabriel Cava Goal Barbosa. WHO's on loan from Inter the first Couple of Lieber Georgia's win for Flamingo. Since nineteen eighty-one they also clinched the Brazilian League on Sunday great for them potential CL- World Cup final matchup for Liverpool. Because at least he's watched the highlights. Yes actually yeah you really. It's a I love the Coppola. It's goes back Coppola because I had to say one more time. It goes back to my days like you were saying when Fox soccer channel was like they used to. It was that and on to these to show these South American games and sometimes it was like one of the only matches you can watch. And that's what I I got to see Boca play of bomb venero and everything so I mean sometimes the footballs are not always at the quality that you would hope for it to be et but the atmosphere is always completely different. Though the game just kind of reminds you of a certain I mean I I do enjoy watching it for that reason too. It's it's it. Brings you back to like just kind of an old. It's very old school and you get to see like all of a sudden you look around you'll be like Oh. Is that sleeping Louise. That's where he ended up back but it's also like you. You like this game especially because obviously it was a cup final. It was just like the Wood River scored I the Flamingo. Manager walked out like and he just looked the key was about to burst into tears. He was where he looked like like Wolfgang puck and long flowing gray hair and a vest on and he was like tearing up Nazi. That'd be like Pellegrini. What's up if I could do if I could have one experience in my life that I haven't but there's many of them chose just one is to be in that end when a goal scored and everybody runs rush source of chain link that seems like the most terrifying exhilarating Hillary thing that could ever happen? Yeah ending of this match. It was two goals one and it was like an eighty nine th and one was in stoppage time. So you really happy. Do you guys know this guy. Maurizio Dole Agno Johnson. You might have seen him on vice. Maybe deadspin did a story on them. It's the guy that has a flamingo kit literally tattooed on his body. Okay vindicated committed. I'm trying to bring it up to show you guys the club World Cup too. I mean you you know you got neymar hidden more than a few years ago. I remember watching Bokan there and seeing in Ever banana like it's kind of fun to watch those games and when you actually kind of come across guy I mean. I know that that happens less less often. Now where you see those kind of young nineteen nineteen twenty year old South American players play teams anymore because they leave so early. But while I'm calling right now they're gonNA beat Liverpool in the final of the club World Cup in Qatar Bankstown. Do you guys have like a South South American team. You Cheer for Boca. Only because for that reason they were the team that you would watch love the kids too and just watching Raquel May and is just kind of as has the division of soccer that I just talk about a mood a Palmeiras. No reason I let's close with Chris since you're here okay this NBA stuff. I've been reading. Great Article Kevin O'Connor on the Ring Dot com great site. Today was yesterday about these this proposal to kind of juice up the regular season. NBA possibly have like a mid season European soccer tournament like an FA Cup going. Yeah what do you make of all of that. I think it would be fantastic for the NBA. I don't think it really helps with the idea that we already have too many games that that's become a huge rallying cry could four games like eighty to you to seventy eight. Sounds like it and they would incentivize. I think that what's the incentive is. The question is a capital for the team. Because what's in it for the players players and is it just bragging rights is at bragging rights with a you know a cash cash award. That's cool you know. I think that there's some questions Sion's about that but one of the things that I think the NBA and the MLB suffers from is a couple of weeks into the senior team could be completely out of it and you still have this long stretch. Stretch of like okay. Am I going to follow the magic or the Tigers throughout like what is essentially a write off of the season but to have a plan toward male or have a in-season Commissioner's cup type tournament tournament during the NBA. If you're the sons and your seven and six and you feel frisky and you Kinda WanNa play it go for it. In this tournament it would be really cool. It'd be really cool to see you the Lakers versus the bucks in a neutral site. I think if they played that game in like Chicago or Miami or at the Garden Dick that would that would rule neutral so basketball being. Yeah to make it a little bit more like March madness I think interesting thing is in the NBA one of the dominant storylines and talking composed. The season has been load management. And if you go over to Europe all you hear the top managers to do is complain. About how many games players play right so I don't know why we're looking looking to the sport that also seems to have a low of management problem and saying what you guys do. Can we take some of that. I personally think the NBA season should be two college seasons. It should beat sixty games It seems like the most logical amount of games and I think that there should be some sort of tournament system going on throughout the season. I thought you were going to say. Two seasons is like split up like the Belgian league or something no no. I don't think there should be an opportunity but I do think it's really fun. If you have a team like the warriors wouldn't you like to see them. Try to win a double or triple in a season. Yeah isn't isn't that the mark of a truly historically great team the one that collects more than one or two trophies in a season. Yeah I mean. That's what's interesting that they're taking or apparently taking cues from European soccer and basketball we'll send the warriors over to play against you know Bianco Sir CESCO Moscow. Which I agree with Chris I I think I would love to see them kind of gimmick the NBA format? But the thing they have to sell. First and foremost is just the amount of games. 'cause the wiz is an interesting example of like the Whizz score ton appoint beloved Wiz and is a complete like what if the Whiz just like had we're tournament ornament magic considered one of the five or seems in the League. They could be anyone on any. Given night. If they put up one hundred and forty points and be like a wigan. FA Cup or something. Yeah yeah it adds some excitement I that brings to a close. It's actually our thanksgiving episodes. So do you guys want to say something. You're thankful for and football club time. He's able for cloth it's time now thankful for much but I'm thankful for Arsenal's kits we can say that I don't know Sir they're Nice you the most beautiful thing about this Gradstein. I thank you Chris. Thank you We'll see everybody in two weeks.

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LADS#74 - Head of Manchester United FC Philadelphia Mike Formento

Loud Americans Discussing Soccer

24:58 min | 2 years ago

LADS#74 - Head of Manchester United FC Philadelphia Mike Formento

"Oh. No, no. No, no thing. All right. Welcome to a lot of Mary stressing soccer podcast or lads podcasts. I am gracefully gracefully I don't know what the word is. Is that the word that's one word that is the word I joined by head of Man, United f, f, c, Manchester, United Philly. I'm fucking this up, so. Okay, sort over. We good. We're doing this live, so so yeah, introduce yourselves, man. Thanks for having me. My name's Mike four Minto. I'd been in Philadelphia for the past eight years. Now, where are you living? Phillies graduate hospital far away from where we are now. Convenient? Yeah, I'm right there in point breeze that far away at all. That's awesome. So how long have you been a Manchester United fan since before I could remember tell you dive into the details a little bit. I guess I asked the man city fan. I had asked him like before after the oil money. Luckily luckily I had like an English guy. I know from man from Manchester's. Are you right? This is one time, but no, they're good guys know them. But back in the day, I say that older shit, but. Swear by the way. See every. So anyway, back in the day when soccer football, whatever was. Are you a soccer football guy? Always say soccer. Okay, good. But I don't. I don't get offended either way. By the way we are in the black sheep pub, always on something in locus or on seventeenth street just outside of Rittenhouse square. Yeah, I'm location stop by. No, I'm going to get more about the atmosphere here by people know we are in the black sheep pup. We are drinking. I've mix. He has Guinness cheers. All right. So tell me about being a Man, United must be so hard. No, I mean, it is a little bit harder now. To be honest, it hasn't always been the hardest. Yeah. Day when soccer wasn't as big in this country as it is now, United were the only team that we're constantly on TV on a regular basis, and I give it up to them. They pushed the American market way before pretty much anyone else did. My dad was born in Argentina, and he was a huge soccer fan. So he would y whatever was on TV. And again, since United, we're on TV constantly kind of became like a natural thing. And then when I finally went to Old Trafford for the first time when I was in high school, it kind of was all downhill from there. Yeah, we don't have to get into that right now. But real quick question is your dad messy or Maradona guy? Maradona Maradona, but he loves messy. You know, I don't want to say that he's anti for sure. He's just, you know. Just you know day I saw him when it World Cup exactly. And he's Rinaldo very messy fan. Oh, really controversy there this low heat, I guess, Man, United. I mean, I guess that goes back. So how long has been going on this is only our third year really because I've been in this Marin who, sadly can't be on here. I know he's bum not to be here for the Man. United segment. We've been here. We've been here like a dozen times in that MS fear is awesome. That's what I love about the black sheep. It's just like feels like an English pub. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why we picked it and. Few of my buddies. We live close by came in here before, you know, we put this organization together just because we love the pub-. The owner was a huge fan used to own a soccer bar and old city where. Tons of people would call them for the games and he was all about having a start this up. So it kind of started in snowball that were. That's awesome. So I was talking to the man city guys. You just have to call like the man you like or like message like the man you head and be like, hey, we're starting at team organization, the city because what they were telling me just need like a president vice president in or a chair vice chair treasurer. Is that like the same process? So I think what they did there speaking about becoming an official chapter with. Okay, right. So. It's a little bit more difficult on our side of things. I believe we're not officially recognized by Manchester United. USA were recognized by because you have to have a certain amount of paid membership. Okay. Yeah. And from the beginning, I never wanted to put a membership fee on anything. I wanted to make it as for anybody got dudes being guides all hanging out, create a place for people to come and watch United. That's it. That's all it was. You know, I thought about becoming an official chapter, but it's just a lot of loops to jump through, so. Okay. Yeah. No, because as I just wanna ask everyone. You know what I mean? What are the steps like? How do you create this? I was like Newcastle fan, which I think there is like a Newcastle fan base. They watched at the bars, I think do they really? Yeah, I heard about yesterday. O'Neill's is the Toffees wherever. And I heard recently the Tottenham guys were Fatos, but they move somewhere else. I get confused arsenal or Tottenham Goto misconduct misconduct. Yeah, we're talking goes. Yeah, I still don't know brought at seven. The podcast yesterday and I was like, we really don't know where that is a research. Again, we'll come back. We'll come back so so tell me about like atmosphere. Here's good. When I come here singing songs. It's like, okay, people chairs up singing the song legit. We're very pro chanting. I am not the type of guy that's going to get a chan- going for sure. On my I know, I know. I know I'll put my hands up in it that I am more focused on the game. But yeah, I mean, if anybody comes here and start to Chen, it'll get picked up. We love this pub because it's intimate enough where if it's a crappy game, we're playing someone shitty seven thirty in the morning and people come. It still feels like a good atmosphere feels very homey. Feel warm yet. Yeah. Actually gets very hot too. In the owners? Interesting guy. I've talked to him a bunch of times from Northern Ireland, make sure everyone knows Northern Ireland. There are two different places different. We'll get pissed 'cause I was drunk on AM like Irish. I said, I didn't preference that guy's a big dude. He will fucking en MI actually triple Xs l. because I t shirt. So yeah, I love your shirts by the white shirts menu. Phileas. Yeah, there's a wicked. So shit. I had a question. Asked me a question. You want me to ask you a question, how long have you been podcast year? Thank you. Yeah, you can find us on Facebook. Just plug for the podcast. Find his on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at lads podcast discussing soccer, so plugged us. Great. On your own podcast. Thank you. Right, I can people find new working people find your fill. Yes. So we're on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram at 'em. UFC. Philly. Lincoln? No, definitely pretty much everything, but that. Can you refer me linked to? How will. Will skills skills. Public speaking. All right. What do you think is the hardest thing about getting Americans into soccer, like getting them to become like big to get them to come out week in week out to the pubs? I actually think it's easier for people to come out because it's an excuse to drink in the morning. American look for any type of drink cookie it. Okay. It's acceptable to drink at the moment. I can pre-game this before college real Balser NFL say, all right, cool. This is how this is the perfect season for me because I'm like wake-up Premier League from seven to twelve thirty college football starts up and then Sunday wake up, and then I got NFL started. I mean, just like it's the perfect season. Yeah, when it's not this season, my life is very empty. It is, but my wife, if you're listening, it's not completely empty. And just just just to make sure that empty. You mean the world to me. And is there like when we were talking yesterday, do you think it's like because draws a lot of people don't like draws, somebody will find it. The biggest thing is the lack of goals, lack of role and diving really gets picked on by the whole foot fairies. They age everyone NBA Dino. I know. And you're seeing that more and more to, but Brown, James, perfect. He's able the guy like gets exact falls. The guy, he's his acting skills. I mean LeBron I'm pro greatness like your greatness. Easy. Both are having a little spill, you know, not doing too great right now, but let's move onto some talk. So what are your? What are your thoughts on Josie, marina. We'll start there. I talked about pedal Artioli with a man city guy. What are your thoughts? I had him as my second best manager in the Premier Li currently. Currently second-best Moseley basing that off, obviously his trophy history, his history of just greatness. What are your thoughts on Joosten Marino I, I've heard Marino in renew outrage. I'm on the thing like these, like honestly, like, who are you going to get off? Just give it some time. I'm on the Marino in even though as an arsenal fan, he's been terrorizing arsenal at Chelsea for fucking years of cost us. So what are your thoughts on just Marino? I think that as he progresses each season at United, the press. Hate him more and more and the hottest hates them more. It's very two way relationship, but they everything becomes more and more negative. And he, I think, doesn't amazing job of making it all about him. I think it was Lukaku who came out last week or the week four and said, look, you guys see this one side of him, but you're not around when it's just us when you're not around. When you know he's on the training fields, it's a completely different guy. You know, he loves us. It's a, it's a great relationship between the team at him. So I think he does do a good job like he's got this reputation of deflecting the negativity off his team and bring it onto him focusing on him. No, it's very Bella Cecchi and I love that. Like we're how he handles the media and this is a, hey, there's no love hate is just hate right. And you know, I like I like I get every time I think about seeing him go to the press room. I'm like, there's going to be fireworks, give quo and somehow it's gonna come back and like your sex. Sarah Sanders and jersey marine. I'm going to get a great quote, and I'm all about like Mike Tomlin. I'm going to get a great quote no matter what. Yeah, that's cool. I'm glad to hear that because I talked to some United fans like sack him to like we have. We have a brutal fan base. Yeah, very naive and base. And I think part of that is your your fan base. I mean, like I was talking about this with the city guy yesterday, and I was like, dude, like for United. It's like every other year you're winning it. I mean, not to be like, now you're on this five six year dry spell. It's like we have one at least twice by now. You know what I mean? Very spoiled van base. I will be honest too. I mean, it's totally fair. Do you think there is hope tunnel with Josie? Marino. I'm gonna get expectations for the season, but you see him pushing came in second last year and man said he was doing like a sees a lifetime. Nobody centurions. They one hundred. I mean, so still got you. In the Champions League, you're in a, I'll talk to you about your Champions League qualifiers in a second, very interesting group, but relents and young boys, which young boys I don't anyway, very weird name, but what did you see? Josie Marino pushing the club in the right direction? Yeah, I do. And especially at this time now where you know bar Don, I don't know who else you'd bring in. Don will be cool. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. But I mean, I think patients is needed, calm heads need to prevail here. Basically. Yes, exactly. Pigs get fat while hogs get slaughtered exactly that I don't know if that applies here, but now. Great. The great quote. I've been saying to people recently, like it's your funeral, no context. Hey, see you later. And I'm like, it's your funeral. So. What are your expectations for this season? I'm saying when I did my prediction this you're gonna hate my top four. By the way I did Liverpool one near gonna hate city to, and I had United third. And then I had Chelsea, fourth, maybe or I didn't even have my team in the top four. So I didn't have arsenal, honestly. And then we'll get a champion, but do you think you guys can pull it off this year and win the title? The way things have started? I would say no. And I'm just being honest. Be even Liverpool this morning performance against Spurs. It was like dominant. They're not that far behind city performs Verma sucks. Yeah. Yes, for sure. But Laura's probably drunk. So that tweet saying that like they'd probably went out drinking before goalkeepers went out drinking. But yes, you see, you have the talent easily, say top four is not out of the question. Yeah, I, I don't. I don't see us what title, and that's just me being honest. Hey, that's totally arsenal. Six. They dropped to like seven. Eight. I don't know. I like it when I am re, but we'll see. Who's your favorite player currently Manchester United? I would have to say the Heo. Mean? Yeah. I mean, he's been world-class later the year for how many years. But when he first came. There was a ton of people that were saying, oh, he's terrible, you know, sell them. So he had some struggles when he first came because he's so young. A little fragile. Yeah, I always forget like your last title. He was there. He wanted forget the, hey, I always days only been there like two or three years. And then I shit like he was there a Furby. I mean that rose my mind. Yeah, you brought in all the good players. Well, so I was team, Dave from the beginning basically saves exactly. I mean, I know what are your thoughts on Paul dba? So I know World Cup, but awesome guy at Manchester, United, talk about little like half and half like so he takes my heart strings a little bit because I love the guy and it's a roller coaster really is. I think he's got tremendous ability as a player. He hasn't been good enough for us plain and simple, but with the extra slack and shit that he gets from the media and our fans, no, no one else would get that basically. So some of it has on fair. I think his agent is a huge dick OB. No, right. Yeah. Someone's got to control that guy. He's a fucking asshole. Like he's almost like Trump like, we're just shut shut up. Do your job. You don't have to be in the tweet every five seconds the tweets about like. To get off Twitter, like who else has Ibra. Right you, Brian of a couple other big news. So he thinks he's like, big, dick guy, got all the money in the world, but he's a fat bastard. Moving on. I'm gonna get to champions greater. So you guys have a pretty interesting group. It's you who's the big dog in that? Yeah, I have them Barscelona winning it, but I have you. They right behind them. How do you guys think Valencia? I don't want you his last year of severe. You kinda underestimated sa- via underestimate anybody anymore. Yeah. Okay. I don't know anything about young boys. Do you know where they're from to say. I don't Switzerland. Sure. There's that output the wrong. No. No, there's there's a couple of teams champions pollution, aka Athens or something. I'm like Athens at screws. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got that one. So how do you feel about your group? I mean, you they think's going to win it. I swear to Christ. I said twice. I said, there are not twice and United is going to get second and Valencia. Third by, I'm worried, I'm if I'm Man United. I'm not thinking you can just cruise through this like man city and buyer Munich. The easiest way fo- just wants. They Real Madrid win last three years. But anyway. What are your thoughts? I know you've as made tons of moves, so they're very scary to begin with Renaldo coming home. I know coming back to United. No, that's great until the scores, three goals at Old Trafford so, but I think we'll do well to finish second there. Okay, so we'll see. Yeah, I think Valencia I don't like I don't really watch. Do you watch any of the other top five leaks? Yeah, I do here and they're not religiously. Yeah, trying to get into Syria because they seem really interesting and ESPN just east as Russ. I'm not gonna. I've been streaming like him read at soccer street. But I don't know. I'm trying to get like, Ooh, I wanna watch PSE, but I don't wanna watch them beaten as league that leaks different that that's like the fifth. If you're doing. Five because that's so top the warriors. So top heavy where it's like, I don't want to watch them play bunch of fucking former. See them the shit out of team, six dentists in Israel job. I'm watching team Iceland who are all dentists, real job afterwards. But I want to say that I watch MLS to feel union guy. I am Jimmy courteous support your local Jimmy curtain guy. He's ginger. We get along really well. We actually journalists recently, we went to a game, we got to go sit in the press. We are big j for you. Thank you. Yeah, we got nervous. We didn't interview. Well, you're probably not going to invite invited back. No, we're like surrounding the MLS journalists kind of nerds, just saying. Yeah, you get that kind of guys. And we were like in the locker room like Padilla's there and stuff like that. I'm like, okay, I'm like, yeah. Can I get a quote for a lot of marriage guessing labs pod? Why are you? But I have a couple more questions. I've got two more questions. So how far you go in the Champions League, I would be happy. Finals quarterfinals. I'll take that. That's fair point. Josie marina. He wanted to Porto. People forget. Yeah, he won the trouble of inter. I don't know read off his, but I'm just saying the guys just one so much. I wanna hate juicy marina the person. I got a re Bella check like eagles fan. I mean, I hate the guy. We gotta respect them. I mean, I hate Josie marina run, but God damn if he's not a great coach. I mean. I mean, I think my big thing about Man United. I think you're big flaw is your back line. I mean, I think anyone would agree with you on that point. Okay. This point that's Jones is still there. What's Chris mauling I know. So all the sudden they're like our top two choices. Now. Bye. Bye. It seems like he either gets hurt after every game, or he makes one mistake and marina won't plan for like another twelve months. So that's it's weird. I like him a lot too. I know what's up of Marcial is getting more starting time. I don't know. Apparently, you got the insider. Tell me I can't. Actually, I don't even what the lineup is right now. Oh, have they released? I mean, they probably released yet. We are in black cheap up by the way is man city. So kicking the shit out of Fulham. This is your live update, three seventy. Third minute. Chelsea. Are you a nil or is euro guy either way, either way. They're also you guys do a lot of trips, right for Man, United Philly. Ann Arbor. We for the Liverpool Man United. Yes. So I didn't put anything together specifically for that. We had a rough experience last year with ticket prices and stuff like that. I mean, we, I mean, I see they denied us media passes so fucking national champion, small time. You're going to deny us unbelievable. Seattle problems last year? Yeah, we did just in terms of ticket prices and things were promised that weren't delivered upon and the package. But then once a year we put together trip told Trafford. So that's kind of something wins that we are looking at dates now, but possibly the Chelsea game later on season. I'm so jealous when I was over. I was living over in Swazi. I tried to go to an arsenal match, but it was like a hundred. I'll say, British quit. It was one hundred. See, I just threw up mouth and it was so ridiculous. I feel like I've heard a lot because I went to a Sunderland Fulham match actually for an FA Cup match. When I was there, the tickets was because I was one of my friends who's a Sunderland, what support. So he works with them and get got them for like twenty pounds. Like do you guys get deals like that? Or is this? Is this fool like hundred dollars? I mean the only way that I know to get, let me know. I'll come from the club is the get their hospitality package, which ends up being like hundreds of dollars. Yeah, but it includes like, you know, open bar inclu- dinner afterwards. We go who were the stadium, but I think unless you're an official member chapter, that's the only way that you can guarantee seats for that many people take twenty people. So it's tough to get twenty twenty tickets. Yeah. I mean, that's especially sitting the area like I was trying to set up for Swansea mattress Swazi and I was trying to get all my study abroad friends, and it was like, so impossible to get all fifteen of us all to sit and I'm like, well, you're going to be over here and here and they're like, well, we can't be together. I'm like, whatever. So wicked. You guys actually go and travel all the way to Old Trafford like heavy you how how many times have you been Old? Trafford me. Oh, God. Say seven times this traff Old Trafford seven times how how is I just wanna get like this is this is great stuff. Right? So how how is Trafford? I love it. I mean, that's what made me fall even more in love with many nodded. Oh my God, and they're walking around before the game, smelling the smells. You know, the drug enters singing the songs song Anders outside just like everyone coming together for a beautiful. Then. Do you ever get like an outsider because you're an American over there? I've never had that experience with the crew like your Man, United fans. Everyone's just like very like brotherly, right. I mean, yeah, I'm also not doing stereotypical dumb American thing. Yeah, like screaming around like shooting guns. Thank God. It's like you're like. God. It's like, you're like, where's your gun? Right? I couldn't bring a over here. You know what I mean? I I keep a pretty low profile. Yeah, exactly. They've been grow just like in cammo shorts and wife beaters, shooting guns sky. I'm like, you know, that's not all of us. There's a few of them like that. All right. So I ask question you ready. I'm a blank sleep. Just, you know, American sports fans. I want to get into soccer, sell me in a minute, or you take as long as you want. Why should I be Man? United fan? Why should I be a Man United fan? Oh man. This is gone. Tougher contentious. Yeah. I would say because I'll say because you'll struggle to find a better matchday experience in the primarily that going to Old Trafford. Greatness. I mean, you just have the history I mean, and and you make it a day. Do the stadium tour see the history of the club? I mean, it's really second-to-none. I would say then go watch the game and we'd play amazingly attractive football or soccer, but that's not necessarily the case anymore. Go watch some furball go go and then fall in love with that. All right. This is my team and also read as an arsenal fan. I was attracted as a kid. I love the color red. The red Power Ranger, read everything red cars, fucking optimist, prime fucking red. I loved all this. All right, Mike. Well, this has been a lot of fun. You can find them at MU, f, c, Philly, and Philly. Twitter, Facebook, hit him up, come down the black sheep. It's a lot of fucking fund drinking snakes. He's got a Guinness. Oh, cheers, Mike. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Some.

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Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

Caught Offside

1:21:03 hr | 5 months ago

Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

"Caught offside with every gumming finch. Jj Davani yes offside upper west side of Manhattan and Jay J. Defend what's up brother. What's all I mean? We're on the precipice of the collapse of world sport or the suspension. At least yeah these are I would say that. The last twenty four hours Like as a sports fan as a global citizen but like as a sports fan it's been the most surreal Twenty four hour period that I've ever seen in the history of sports from I. Guess if you took it from the start of Manchester City and Arsenal choosing to postpone their game because arsenal players were in quarantine And you took that all the way through the message last night from the NBA that their season was being suspended In between you have reports that the answer AA will be banning fans from attending March madness. Which is a thing that I can't even wrap my mind around because fans and March madness just so inextricably linked with one another that. I can't even separate the two like picture. The final four without people what this is and then you wake up this morning. We're now in a new cycle where it's all domino's are now falling And I every minute every hour every second at things I it seems that things are just updating at a speed. That is it's making your head Spin Yeah. I I lived through the foot and mouth incident in in Europe in two thousand and one and I remember sporting being cancel. Large gatherings cancelled all those things but it was never on a scale like this. Nothing close to this no panic. Because of its effect on the economy to an on also was it was to do livestock. And in a rural country garden that matter but this is this affects across the board. In a way I've never experienced. It feels like we're living on a movie like this watching television last night and being on the Internet just none of the seem real. It's very surreal. Yeah and you want to take this podcast. Two Years Zero. No everything's over. We don't talk about football now. We only talk about the Corona Virus. Low we can. We can take people behind the scenes. You and I we talk before every show we talk about what we WanNa do and you know to me. This is now like the news is just coming at such a speed and the stories that are coming out. We haven't even gotten to the most The most recent news developments pretending to soccer in that. Mls has been suspended Jeff Carlyle where we're recording this at like twelve ten right now eastern time twenty seconds ago. Jeff Carlisle just tweeted. That CONCACAF champions has been suspended all upcoming. Us Men's national team and US Women's national team friendly's have been suspended Still waiting word on what's going to happen with the Premier League Lollygag is taking a temporary hiatus. Real Madrid are in quarantine after a member of the Real Madrid basketball team tested positive for corona virus. At the team's facility sky reporting that Lester players show symptoms. Leicester boss Brendan Rodgers. A few of his squad have shown symptoms of the corona virus. There scheduled face Wofford at vicarage road on Saturday in the Premier League reports of. I'm almost hesitant to do this. But Guillaume ballet is a journalist. I think that is generally trusted. He has a tweet from an hour ago. Citing lucky in France The tweet reads in the UEFA meeting on Tuesday. It will be confirmed that the Champions League and Europa League will be suspended he writes in parentheses which is a sentiment that I would echo. Why wait till Tuesday? Then he adds saying plus the Euros will be moved to twenty twenty one. These are these are just like unbelievable events unfolding at light speed right. Let's can I just read to you? If his statement today are of course in the light of the ongoing developments in the spread of covert nineteen across Europe and the changing analysis of the World Health Organization you F S Today invited representatives of it's fifty five member associations together with the Boards of the European Club Association on the European Leagues Anna Representative of fief pro to attend meetings by videoconference thankfully on Tuesday seventy the march to discuss European football's response to the outbreak discussions with include all domestic and European competitions including away. Your twenty twenty further communication will be made fun does meetings so that kind suggests that everything's on the table. Yeah and you know what I've been. I've it's funny since this whole thing has started. I feel like I've I've kind of like see-sawed there have been days when I was like you know what I'm not sure. How big a deal this is and then there were other days where you turn on the news and you think. Oh my God this is truly terrifying and you kind of go back and forth because we were not educated in this matter but I think now I think we all need to kind of move ourselves into the corner of. We don't know anything and we have to trust the people and the experts that do know like I was thinking about this. Jj because I've heard you've I bet you've come in contact with a lot of similar kind of people and I'm not. I'm not trying to blame them. But I've come in contact with a lot of people who are freaking out at the freak out people who are kind of the mindset of. This is nothing wires all this happening. The economy is in the tank. We are losing billions of dollars for a thing. That's not that this is a non story and we're in freak out mode and I think now I I've been trying to like because I know we're going to do a soccer podcast so I've been trying to liken that to like what's a soccer analogy for what happened right now and I was thinking. Let's say you're walking down the street yesterday after Liverpool lose that game and you're wearing Liverpool Jersey and a guy comes up to you and says you're collapse gotta be fired and say that guy. Oh okay are you like a Liverpool Fan. No well are you a former front office executive who knows how these things no well. Are you like somebody who have you played? Soccer do have any soccer background. No not really but I heard were playing well so I started paying attention a couple of weeks ago and since I started paying attention they really have not been doing well. He should be fired. Well you don't know what you're talking about. Your opinion means nothing to me. So like all these guys that you work with and friends that you come in contact with the you're just having casual conversations with that suddenly want to act like they're experts on the corona virus. You don't know anything. Let's all just shut up and allow the experts to do their job and just do what they tell us to do on that note get onto CDC dot org for all corona virus information. How to protect yourself what it is on. What's happening daily updates? You can log on at any time. You can also see it on twitter. Don't be heating Jim in levittown right. Who's been re tweeted by your friend? Book and don't allow your opinion to be swayed by that guy because he doesn't know he doesn't know by the way there are some pundits in the media. Who are talking about this thing. A certain branches in the media who don't know what they're talking about either the World Health Organization this CDC. That's those are the people you need to be listening to Right. Now onto your GP. Who knows your case ending underlying conditions? You may or may not have and ultimately like Oh. I think we need to start using some common sense in how we're perceiving the seriousness of this in that like we can all say in a moment of a public health crisis. You know. Money doesn't matter. We need to put the the well being of the people I and that is true but let's also remember in a capitalistic society. Money does matter the NBA is not suspending their season for nothing the NC Double A. They have two huge events here. The College Football playoff and March madness. They are not banning fans from attending their event over nothing. They are taking advice from people who know what they're talking about like I feel like we've kind of crossed the threshold where people need to just like understand. Like if you're somebody who's still upset that you can't go to watch one of your teams playing person right now. Like tough were where in a moment? Where like yeah? Your life is going to be inconvenienced by this until we get a handle on. What's going on so like you know. Hopefully you know I don't WanNa see tweets from people. Who are you know season ticket HOLDERS FOR NASHVILLE OR ATLANTA? Or whatever saying that. They're upset that their season has been put on hold and they can't go watch their team play Because they don't think this is a big deal. I think it's that people wake up and understand. This is unlike anything we've really dealt with in our lives but it's not just sports fans though there's people out there who have embraced and this is a conversation for another day but they've embraced this going to post truth society. We're in right now where you can argue facts right. Don't do that not what days this will not discriminate. I think the World Health Organization in the CDC. And I'm not trying to be like flippant or making a joke. I honestly view those as apolitical organizations. Like they're to me. Those are not organizations. That really have a political affiliation. So if they're telling me if they're telling US something like it's it's what I am going to trust and I think that that's a safe way to handle this. These just do it. Yeah I mean this is just like we haven't even mentioned some of the other Danielle origine of Uganda's tested for the corner virus yesterday. So event is has been in quarantine. I mean if you if you get a chance to read some of the reporting coming out of Italy right now. Where the places in lockdown some you know large parts of it are in quarantine like for example. The town of of Parma is. Just you know you're not supposed to your the order are the direction is not to go outside the city walls disdain. Your home to to work from home to all those things and you hear about elderly people who are dying and they are loved. Ones can't go near them. Because of the danger of contracting and spreading this thing imagine the horror. This isn't a joke. It's just not a joke and you've got to listen to the experts. 'cause you don't know anything so from a sporting perspective. I just am wondering because like we said. The news is just happening so quickly. Like where is this heading like now? These leagues the premier. Li like we said up at this point. We haven't heard much I saw only Gomersall Shire. Yesterday says the Manchester United would support the suspension of the primarily to combat the spread of the virus. Like let's all be honest with one another. That's that's where we're headed. Yeah I mean Britain's response. Sporting response has been strange. I would say the Cheltenham Horse Horse Racing Festival which brings in hundreds of thousands of people across. I don't know how many days ten days probably more than that. Considering all the ancillary events and things that go on surrounding it that went ahead that you got the feeling with Shetland they just snuck it in before people said. Okay we gotTa Start Shutting things down I and it was strange to me. Three and a half thousand Athletico Madrid fans travelling to Liverpool last night dot is dot is dangerous. I'm sorry right now. Large mass congregations of people an even a twenty two men field. It was funny at the weekend there was no handshakes in the premier league. Yet people jumping all over each other for celebrations in close contact and tackling crashing into each other. I mean your clock is and we're going to. We will talk about some of the Champions League deliver. We are because I will make sure that we do. I know but like can KLOPP. Jj in the last week. Like I feel like. He's becoming a man on hinged his press conferences where he's been asked about his generally his thoughts on this virus and he's now snapping at journalists and. I understand his point. I think I kind of agree with him. But he's snapping journalists saying who am I to be answering that question I don't know why do you come to me is in over his last point to the pre the pre Madrid one not the weekend the Madrid one was. Why do you think you are outside of this? We're doing we're doing sport. I you've traveled to do that like he's trying to just say we're all part of this right. There is no a Liverpool issue. It's not like should we? Should we ban soccer to stop this thing? Don't go to the pub. You know stopped going to the theater but movies might be a bad idea for you. Jill like this isn't panic. This is what we're being told by. The people who know almost and the spread of this is really scary. I saw the video yesterday of walking through the tunnel To come out onto the field before the game and a couple of fans put their hands out to him. A high five any snaps. Thank you can read his lips. I can't say what he said on this show but like you. He's he's he's had it with all of that. He is quite. He is quite compelling when he's had enough of people you know because he is the jovial German the laughing white T. He is a charisma until he isn't and his face can quickly go from Jovial. German to the eyes bulge is a very intense. Look Yeah I remember. Last season was it. Someone asked him about him. I think was the draw with Leicester. The draw with West Ham. They asked him about his team and he was clearly frustrated in the moment. And he said you think this is playstation. You think we can just create chances score goals just like that. You know that we weren't trying. Yeah Yeah don't cross him So that is up to this moment. That is kind of where we're at. I think you know. Even though announcements haven't been made pertaining to all leagues I think we're kind of of the mindset right now that this game and sports in general really are just sort of being placed on hold. There is like a collective pause button. That's being hit until we can kind of get a grasp on an ability to contain the spread of this virus and it is worth noting to that. There have been like. I'm not an expert but I listened to people that are listening to the daily today. They're talking about how China and South Korea have made incredible strides and they were pointed out by the World Health Organization yesterday for the Strides. They made in containing the so. Hopefully other countries will begin to follow suit And no that's why. Large gatherings are being stopped. The you know that's why these prominent sporting events are being halted. Because that's like step one is to stop the spread of this in large groups So that's that's pretty much where where we're at right now with this. Do you WanNa talk about other things? Yeah I WANNA talk about the football because this might be the last football we get to talk about actual games. We get to talk about for a while. So let's make a good one friend. I know it's very weird to talk about. Games that are taking place in competitions. May Not not be not right. Not to be flippant but I want to give everyone a window into Andrew's mind right now right right now. Andrew is Kilian Murphy Waking Up in the hospital in twenty eight days later wandering across London Bridge Outta desolate empty landscape. That's where he is. I've never seen that movie. You need to click into podcasts. Mold now boyle we're talking football. I I wish you had the the Pale haunting eyes of Kilian Murphy. At least give me something something nice to stare at all right well. Let's talk about the champions. They were going to do our best. All right. We're GONNA put on. We're GONNA put on a brave face. We're GONNA do this. We'll talk soccer. I do wonder how many people really care right now. Believe me the everybody was looking forward to this podcast last night. Things have gone then. Everything happened yet. Things have gotten worse. But what what do you want us to do? I don't know I don't I don't know what I WANNA do. I WANNA talk football. I WanNa Talk Ball. Let's start with what was really the standout match from the last several days. Really and that is Liverpool What an incredible game against Athletico Madrid the second leg liver. Pour out of the Champions League in the round of sixteen. Their defense of their European crown will go no further There's a lot of angles to get from their game specifically. I guess we'll start trying to which I want to start with. I guess we'll start with the one that is kind of like really was making waves. And that is the the goalkeeper issue for Liverpool because it seemed like immediately the game ended and the blame game began and a hundred percent of the blame was being pointed at one man and that was Adrian. Well it's not all about Adrian put. His mistake was a fundamental shift in the game. I'm was a mistake on a night like that that you can't make no. There was other key moments for me nor failing to make contact with good chance loss in the first half the second half. I think Robertson hitting the crossbar. No chance was the first half Robinson hitting the crowd I don't know how Robertson didn't score That was a big chance. I will say the defender went. When I watched the second angle there's defender Khanna puts off a little bit so actress and can't get quite as clean ahead on it. As as obviously would have panned quite amulet downwards which but he's from such close range yet you expected in that too bullish and believe it yeah But look it was. It was a key moment in a game that was finely poised Liverpool. Didn't have the away goal. Of course it matters and there was an instant momentum. Shift at that moment. Pat Nevin was on the BBC last night. Talking life from Anfield about what that moment. Adrian's flobbed clearance meant for the game little control of that but at Dame just didn't we've all been in before when everyone jogging. Look in vain day you load and unexpected goal and suddenly looks to Yaas Lore looks exhausted suddenly the game plan Joe Trillo as well get how many senior center half backup to Santa. Nfo and then you know. It's a complete pining. Why was surprised that in that situation as big ten didn't have eight NATO non. Stop that they didn't have any bow. Oem to go. They made a couple of changes. Bomb just never harmed the new yourself. When you've got to perfecting minute Champions League you expected to have at least a bank drive. There was nothing that was new energy. I'm not blaming anyone except the probably just a Bagel scored true the minute that that goal went in that was it Liverpool. Just couldn't pick it up again and I think Andrew that's as good a performance over the ninety at least as Liverpool have poured in since Lester on Stevens Day on boxing day that that's their best most complete performance. There were absolutely added bought for all the chances they had. I mean thirty four shots. Eleven on target two goals wasn't enough and has pointed out the for me. No gold needed to happen. Within the ninety minutes the second goal have to happen within the ninety minutes yeah because Liverpool out on their feet. I tweeted last night. I enjoyed that game immensely absolutely immensely and I can't be you know totally upset. I am disappointed where the champ is but I thought that was a brilliant performance from Liverpool and they just they just thought moment from Adrienne he kicks it out he can't it's terrible terrible Malta. Terrible moment he can't readjust his footing. Quick enough on the next thing the balls in the back of the next steps up off the turf you can make one mistake. But you can't compound that mistake with another but Andrew. It was in the wires. It was in the mail it was in the Post. The only had a bad game against Burma. There's no was. He looked on shore of himself against Borth and in the in the NFL Cup. In the second half yeah the ethical too in the second half he makes a brilliant save from the feet of one of the political Madrid players. After because he's he's made a mess of an easy shot from Zhao Felix. So he was always liable to do this right the only he is to blame like if we are going to talk about why this happened. He his name is certainly on. That list might even be top of the list. The only reason that I struggle to like shiny entirety of the spotlight on him for why this went wrong. I mean through ninety minutes. He held he. Did you can say he had a mistake. You're there but like he did hold Athletico Madrid to a clean sheet over the day day. Get in make. He didn't make a truly crippling. I mistake until the ninety seven I know but it led to go hardly troubled Liverpool goal for most of the ninety. Let's be perfectly honest. They had A. They had a couple of chances. But chances you would expect team of their quality to have but like when team takes thirty four shots Like Liverpool did I mean. How many shots did they have in the ninety minutes without with only getting I go I'm not. I'm not even sure. What ninety probably like thirty shots or so and you can make the argument like The expected goals was two point. Nine to one point one Thoughts from Mike. Kelly's graph in favor of liver favor of Liverpool Lau. Yeah that's a but as he said sometimes football keep her as a great game. One team takes a few grit shots. The better team doesn't win and you know that. Is this game you constantly say to me. There is no deserve in football and soccer none. Now there's only the score there's only the score And I think you're going to probably did with what Mr Clapper to say. So let's talk about that your clock by his own. Admittance has turned into a very. How did he put it in a very subpar loser? He's a sore loser and he said he said in every interview. Yeah he's now. He's not running from that reputation he is owning it. I am the sore loser and I'm GonNa Complain. After my team loses games and that was certainly on full display After Liverpool lost yesterday. This is what he said about Diego Symbionese Athletico Madrid side. And the way they chose to play he said I don't understand what the quality they have. The football they play they play proper football but they stand deep and have counterattacks. We accepted of course. But it doesn't feel right tonight. I realize I am a really bad loser. Especially when the boys put such an effort and against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four again I don't think it needs to be said it's heat of the moment. He certainly feeding things after the game but it was kind of the same point he made after the first leg. I would ask. What were you expecting? Diego Simoni is living rent-free in your head right now because after the first leg. He Pulls Saudi-omani at Halftime. Because he's afraid that some some player for Madrid's going to force him into like a fake yellow after this game he's complaining about like on. My only thing is like dig. Diego Simione is not some guy who's just trying to scrape by by the skin of his teeth and win here like this is a man who has one Lolita in an era dominated by Rao Madrid and Barcelona. He's gotten to within like centimeters of two Champions League victories You know this is a pretty accomplished manager. Who I don't. It just is weird to me to hear him spoken to like. He's some kind of like like newby who doesn't understand the way the game supposed to be played. Yeah he is a CV. Anna resume based on this type of football. That is you see. I mean maybe this is about I was gonNA save better than your can collapse. Although cloud having the champion the Champions League last year probably puts him ahead of Simeoni but it shouldn't be a better or it's it's it's somewhere along the line in football By the way what did used to be almost like a apart from conceding two goals used to be almost a classic Italian way of playing away from home. And that's a league. That Simoni cut his teeth and plan for plan for those teams that he did in Italy for Inter Milan Etcetera. So he's honed. He's turned defending good defending into an art. And I'm going to give him some praise here. Look I don't love the way he plays. I wouldn't across to play like that but you know it's it's winning football. And it was winning football. Last night look at the substitutions. He made he wasn't afraid to pull Diego Kosta. He puts in urinate. Who scores two goals he puts in Joe Felix who has a hand in the setting of the of the crucial goal for urine tests. I he brings a Murata who scored one of his own and set up another one on when legs were tired when mines were failing to stay focused. Simoni had the changes made that punished Liverpool. And that's where I give him credit I simione his response was interesting. We played to win with our weapons to win respecting our identity respecting two characteristics of the players exploiting the defects of the opponents. That's how we play if someone wants to ask me is. Savage who failed English primarily savage better defender Than Virgil Van Dyke. No but look at the mazing job that money people pointed out last night. That's only has done with those players to make them better too that's organization. There is merit to this kind of play. I think some Yanni's response to To Club and the rest of your pin football. Who Don't like the way he plays goes something like this. You don't want me anymore with that breaks my heart but it's too bad because you don't love me but you will respect me. It's Tony and Christopher. It's true though it really is true and I think he is respected. I think he's viewed by. Everyone is one of the best managers in football tonight. Yeah and again This used to be the pattern for European football. A lot of these games were tense. Edgy Defensive Affairs where mistakes and the the tiniest margin for error were exploited by the really good sites. You vent this. I can think of the past in particular doing that on here. We are again. He is like a in a ways. Like a footballing hipster. He's what old what was old new. Yeah I just find it annoying from klopp because this isn't the first time he's done this But really because like this idea of all. I'm sorry you're in that your opponent didn't play the way he wanted them to play like. Who is your clout to to judge? How other teams should be playing Athletico Madrid and Diego Simione? He did what needed to be done to beat your clubs Liverpool Team Liverpool. Like the play opened they like to attack and I think it's almost smart to set up no more defending. I think Rory Smith made another valid point that he said it wasn't it was as much about Liverpool failing to convert their chances as it was about Athletico Madrid working out bringing game plan like day were by D. They were to kneel down at one point and that moment to let them back in was crucial but when the moment happened they weren't found wanting they had the man on the field who is going to score twice. They had also another man who's GonNa set up a score one. And that's I suppose where you have to give credit even though I am as Liverpool Fan. You're devastated disappointed very dishonestly. It's why before I knew. Remember after the group stage was complete. Jj and we kind of did our recap of the group stage prediction for team to most likely to go on a run. I set up Madrid and that was before I knew. They're playing Liverpool. I got a little nervous when I thought they were playing Liverpool. What you just said is exactly it the fact that they are so strong defensively but when the moment arrives when they need to score a goal able to do that and I mean they've made a whole identity as Simoni said out of this young Last bit on this game. There's a lot more Ogden yesterday at ESPN AFC. And I think. He's kind of representing the viewpoint of a lot of soccer fans out there Who have been watching Liverpool the season going back to last season and even the year before when they get to a Champions League final win it the next year. See what they're doing the premier league this year and Mark Ogden basically wrote a piece saying it just feels like them going out at this. Stage is going to leave a bit of an empty feeling in an otherwise triumphant season for Liverpool and. I'm just wondering like the shift in viewpoint over the last couple of weeks on what Liverpool's achieving right now if that's a little bit harsh You you know. I've been consistent throughout this. I didn't think at the start of the season that Liverpool would even be titled Champions-elect. I didn't even think I thought it would be so hard to go against the mighty for another season As things move along and as the season goes along other people not klopp not Liverpool started talking maybe even some Liverpool fans started talking about what could be and that's just the way things are in sport right now. as Liverpool rolled along as the defeats didn't calm people started talking about what might be an Roy. Smith wrote a piece on this last week which was pretty good when klopp insisted he was talking. He was taking the season game by game. He was not downplaying his ambitions. It wasn't it was not one of his ambitions if it happened great but it was too distant a prospect to be considered in his plans. You don't plan to go unbeaten. You don't plan to be in the latter stages of the Champions League on top of the primarily by twenty two points it feels. I think as if there is a truth for all fans of all teams in there somewhere a less than that. Maybe everyone might learn no matter what you achieve no matter how well you do there was always someone telling you. There is something more you could have done. Liverpool should should still make Fan's dream come true this year it will just have to get used to being told that it's dream was not big enough. That's everybody else projecting onto the team. The main objective hopefully will be achieved. That's winning the premier league and everything else. I mean look at look at the three two and a half years. They've had in. It's amazing and it's it came to an end last night. It seems a little bit weird because I think we we are still going to view them as one of the greatest premier league teams of all time. I I still do think that so. Maybe it seems a little bit strange that they're not gonNA. They're not going to exit the season with the second trophy whether that was a League Cup. Fa Cup champion or even not even to win the Champions League but to go out in a relatively early stage. It's a little bit strange but I don't think that that will change the way. I the regard that I hold this team in on. Unfortunately in these zero-some game of fans on twitter and social media. This is a black mark that can never be removed because it's not about actually looking at Liverpool as a great team are evaluating the site. It's about scoring points from whatever teams perspective rival teams for perspective. Your from so. Let's put that aside for a second but like let's be proper football men here on said that this is being a brilliant season for Liverpool at the end of a brilliant run in Europe on Dot. Run like they haven't been beaten a home in. Anfield in European competition since the Real Madrid. Twenty fourteen Defeat that's incredible incredible and that traverses most of the KLOPP era That it's almost entirely the COP era. Yeah so And Look Look at the Magic Knights. We've had Dortmund came and scored two goals at Anfield. Liverpool still prevailed in that amazing semifinal. Oh Yeah I remember that night when you try to convince me that Liverpool winning that in the League was bigger than was at Barcelona Madrid Champions League semi final. Yeah I thought it was a bigger game probably are better game. Run or no bigger. It was clearly the word it was your worst. Take that you've had. I don't know if this has ever even recovered. I can't even remember that I'm sure I said something I it's just funny because you see the haters come out When a team is down like I saw this From Juan G Arango on twitter. He's I guess he's a I don't know actually who he is. But he's got Lou checkmark that means he said so much for the magic of Anfield so much for the Mystique of the COP. In my opinion they might be winning the league in a runaway manner but the season was left quite empty. In my honest opinion. This season is a failure for eighteen. That was the best in the world. God yes sure to haters. Yeah I again and again. I'm sure one is coming from some angle Roy. Never who's been on this podcast before? Who is defend or evolving? Argentinian came out and had a pop o'clock last night. Saying he's no sir. Alex Ferguson Sir. Works and it was in the twenty six years. You know what I mean like So everyone's got the role in Atlanta that culminate in football would probably tell you not altruism. I I just wish people could just like. It does seem to me now that football these days. There's a lot of people out there. They don't actually enjoy footballer. The Games are are anything about it. It's it's about the point score. I will say though and I'm not sure I don't WanNa make you feel I want you? I know we joke around but I want you to enjoy this Liverpool experience like this. You waited your whole life essentially to see this and I don't. I'm not trying to take away. I will say though the only the only way I can relate to it like as a phillies fan. They won the world series in two thousand eight and I really think that era. They had a five-year run where they were unbelievably. Good and I. But they're still part of me as great as that. Achievement was when in that world series? Like I still look back on that Erin. Feel like they were good enough to have gotten at least one more and and there is like part of me. That's Kinda like like we left one on the table Yeah now you also have Champions League. We HAVE THE ERA. So you know it. I feel like you. I'd hopefully depending on what happens. With the Corona virus the the Premier League so. That's yeah I don't I wouldn't even think about. So what are you even implying there will I season will be cancelled and no winner will be no no What's GonNa can you imagine what I think will happen? Is that There'll be some kind of shut down for a few weeks. You're twenty twenty will be cancelled and the European football season will join a little bit into the summer. The domestic season to get it finished. That's how I think well it all depends on what happens with this thing and again the rates. Well let's rates of contraction have to go down. We don't right there is no. I was talking to somebody yesterday in there. Like the strange thing about all this is that there's no end zone here like it's not like we're at the ten yard line and we know we lost four yards to go to get like we don't know where like how long this is also kind of carry on for him. So Yeah Yeah. I'll tell you what let's take a quick break when we come back. We'll take a look at the other. Three Champions League matches from the last couple of days. I have a what to watch for here. Half of that has now been essentially cleaned out Because of matches that have been suspended Boat we do have more to get to read cards man of the match and like I said the other Games So don't go anywhere. It's still allowed to do here on. Caught Offside back now on. Caught Offside All right. Jj. We persist we continue now. We we talk soccer in these strange times. Yeah I I don't know I I in me that I just feel like uncomfortable. Come Talk to you and your drifting off thinking about something else I yeah you read me perfectly either locked in come on People WanNa Talk. Want us here to heroes talk about the football as well because again like. I said when we're GONNA talk about it again. Yeah what are we going to do like? Let's say that I haven't thought about what happens to caught. Offside this podcast if there's no there's if everything's canceled. I think we I guess we get a chance to do some the things we never got to do before we get to talk about. Maybe books and documentaries podcast. People have been asking us to talk more about film. Have they really yeah? I've got a direct message of I supposed to read ages. Go about Oh I love when you guys talk. Film is anyway. I know you've got a busy schedule is not any way you can do. Another podcast about film. I don't know I think people are sprinting. For the next button on their Their feeds right now our PS G. They do it. They turn around on Borussia Dortmund in an empty stadium in Paris. And they advance to the quarterfinals. In what I think really I mean. I know it's only the round of sixteen but I think if you look at ps G. and where this has all been headed after the previous two campaigns for them in this competition since they acquired Neymar Imbaba so on and so forth. It's got to be one of the biggest wins in their history that they were able to come back and do this and I think you could see. That is very weird. Jj to to see an empty stadium. A goal scored and with no crowd reaction. Obviously because there's no one in the building to still see players like show such emotion like in some ways it's refreshing because it's like you think it only matters because it's a performance of accident of a crowd either that or the enthusiasm of a building. I think can like can care. There's a nurse to that. I think enthusiasm of sixty seventy thousand people has a rubbing off effect on the guys who's WHO's at the center of it but I don't know it felt very like high school sports to me. Like watching a guy score a huge goal with no one there but still like it means so much to him. I don't know felt very like as pure a moment as ps g can have. It almost felt like that. Yeah there was What's interesting is hearing their voices when the communication yeah I know. Also you hear when the ball is hit. You hear that noise that you haven't heard since you play you hear it every week and when you play yourself because there's no crowd there and then you hear the pros make the same sounds and also I was listening to a podcast said at the weekend. It was amazing to hear the back and forth between opposition players. The back and forth between teammates the cajoling the anger the jokes all the things that we miss out on because of the crowd noise and he was talking about Venison Intrum Lonzo. Yeah it was It was weird. I obviously because we're focusing on the game only highlights of this bought most of the match reports and from what I could see from the highlights. Like Dorman just didn't show off now on their funding site on you know when you talk to two people who watched them weaken we go talk to their fans. They were there for straightening You don't know what you're going to get from them. Necessarily I mean they can put on a performance in attacking performance. That absolutely wows you. And yet they are capable of being extremely flat They're capable of defensive lapses in a way that you feel. This team is teetering. It's just missing something that it doesn't have for it to be more consistent site. I don't know is that management coaching. But I'm this was a considering what happened in the first leg. This was a a big zero for them. Yeah and credit to PS. Gee It's not just about Dortmund capitulating We had said on Mondays. Podcast that these are the moments that you go out and you get Neymar. And if he's if he's worth it these are the moments where he has to show up. Well he did His first goal his movement to get to that header Maybe it was poor defending by. Ps G. but it's also Neymar just finding away to attack that ball it's perfect And it was huge for them to get that first goal And for him to be the one that did it. I think it just lifted the whole team Getting the second one on the stroke of half-time on kind of a a nifty sort of deflection Huge for them to take that into the locker room and then that was that was all they needed. I know there's been a lot of drama surrounding his birthday. And the usual controversies. That seemed to go with him injuries as well. But a FIEF tweeted it's twenty three combined goals and assists and fifteen appearances since the start of December. Well that's pretty good going considering he hasn't even been available for all the games boy we do. Forget we don't forget we do. It's never forget because it's because he's not on the field or or he's doing something off the field that's Kinda detracting from it but like when it's all said and done and he's out there playing and he's focused he still. I think he he still shows you. He's one of the best players in the world. I'm so curious where they go from here. we're designing implying that this competition does anything go from anywhere right now day one. It's weird I'm thinking about like. Hey if back come back come back. Come back to Andy Comeback. What does anything mean right now? I know don't do this. Chin-ups Sunshine Camman League's getting just read the ACC tournament have been suspended. It's this let's go. Let's go Let's see we continue now. Jj Let's just go. Let's go to Tottenham that'll that'll snapped me out of this funk Boy What a whimper. I mean you talk about zero from Dortmund and here's what I would say about it. I think we have to stop being surprised like I feel. Like every time Tottenham come out This season in big game surprised I feel like I get that that feeling like I feel like. I'm living groundhog day. After each one of these games. Oh my God it's another no show from spurs you know the manager literally three weeks ago. Said he's not surprised these he's telling everybody will be same result. Yeah And since we last spoke they even lost another attacking player to injury. Probably for the remainder of the season in Stephen Bergman I'm a little bit conflicted on Tottenham A because I actually like I said after the first like actually think rb Leipzig are really good I don't think it's a fluke. How well they're doing in this competition or how. Well they're doing in the Bundesliga. They're really good team And be I don't WANNA sound like whiny sore loser here but like injuries do matter. And I can't tell you the Tottenham win if bird vine and sun and Kane are healthy but I can also tell you that it matters that those players aren't there Davinson. Sanchez is hurt. That Moussa Sissoko is hurt That Ben Davies is hurt like that. You Sold Victor. One Yama and I don't even know what role he was going to continue playing so I almost don't include him but I know what you mean. We've barely spoken about his transfer. But you heard marina just deteriorated so much as a player partially because of injuries over the last twelve months So it's kind of a team that is like two things are happening at once. They're in a period of major transition And it's not going well as is often the case with teams in transition and they're also it is what it is like. They're ravaged by injuries right now and I think this is. This is the end product. You're seeing what that all looks like when it's all happening at once on throwing a lack of a computer coherent playing style to suit. The personnel has throwing The negativities the the CIG- The basically your star player your most expensive player being signalled for abuse in the media. Put that all together. That dripstone the weird thing about Tottenham Austat yesterday that like you think about Josie Marino coming into your squad as manager and what that typically means. It means okay. We're going to not be quite so attacking but we're going to load up defensively. And we're not going to concede goals. Jj in the Premier League. This is across all competitions so the status slightly but the point remains since Marino took over only one club has conceded more goals than spurs in that time. And that's Aston Villa. Like that is yeah so he's not even doing the things that he was good at before. Now here's my belief. Do I think this is the squad in transition that needs to be overhauled yes? Do I believe that this is the only way it could be? It has to be this. Bide everything about it from the optics of the football to the off can be no other way no. I don't believe that the only reason that I slightly disagree with you saying that is because this had started under Pocchettino I don't believe that this is just Josie Marino problem like this. The football being this bad is not just a Josie Marino problem. I can tell you I was watching him every single game. It was this. Maybe it was this not says maybe Andrew but you know in the press conference afterwards. He does the same thing he's been doing week after week. He's GonNa hang everyone else's players you think you think Bacelona can do X. Y. Without Messy Juarez utain Liverpool can do anthing without for menial manner except in the semi finals last year. Liverpool did do something without third key players. And Guess What the Club you're at right now did as well. They didn't throw the bloody towel and weeks beforehand and I really great point. I ain't wasn't on that field and he wasn't and I didn't get a chance to to to vent about this. As well but Tottenham fans who are defending Joseph Marino allowed Tottenham manager to three days before a derby against the team that their fans despise their. Load him to throw in the towel. You talking about Partido in no daylight Marino to throw in the towel three days before the Chelsea game right out your life sake. He could come on man. Come on making noises about playing Frank Lampard's Chelsea it's Andrew. Things can be bad. There is a way to deal with it. So you this. Paci no did the same against Arsenal Before the League Cup when he played a B Squadron and no not not not a beast. What did he say or did he not say in the week beforehand? Did Pacino ever said that? That's it. We're not GONNA win the remember his exact comment but he he talked about basically that competition is not what their goal is right. That's not the same thing. That's a priority thing. This is the literally saying we can't do anything in this game. I will accept injuries and on this transition period is a and that there are players who are going to have to be moved on and things need to change but this is this is not the guy to do it and this is not the way to do it yeah. I don't know if he when he took this job on 'cause he's not necessarily a guy that you point to is somebody who you would go to to oversee a rebuild. I think he's somebody that you go to to change things up on a squad that can win but like can't seem to get over the hump which has been Tottenham. They've been good for years now but they haven't gotten the hump they haven't gotten over the Hump and won a trophy. But like I. I don't know if he quite realized What Patino was realizing in that? Oh this is this is not a team that is ready to get over the hump. This is a team that got close to it. Miss Their chance and now they are on the other side and the weird thing is though we keep talking about how How it's over like this run is over but like I was going back and looking at the ages of the players on the team. They're not old. Like do you have a couple of El Dorados now over thirty but you know for tongue but like era dire is twenty eight Like I was going through the list. You know they're mostly guys who are like twenty six twenty seven and twenty eight. They're kind of in that spot right now where they should. They should be in their prime. I mean I just wonder if because Tottenham hadn't refreshed their squad over the past few years. The tread on those tires is comparable to that of a guy in their mid thirties. I Dunno some. I mean something's wrong whether it's injuries whether it's there's a danger. Jing whether it's the style it's probably look it's everything. I don't think you get to this point without it being a little bit of a lot of things right and there's also danger that we're on overkill Josie Marino. I mean he is just infecting every conversation about Spurs. I'm not. I'm not really talking about him right now I I. Can't you hate his guts? You have a personal thing against him. I'm hey don't do that. No don't do that come on. That'S THE PERSONNEL J. True the personal. What the Personal Grudge Josie Marino is based on what he does in his personal. So I'm reflecting here. Alone even among Tottenham fans there were the first day he was hired decided. This this is a horrible idea. And they were against him. Everything I said is being based on what we've seen so far utterances from his mouth and it's just I don't understand I like I said on Mondays podcast and this is why I feel as if we need to get off the subject. We can look in the mirror. You don't look at me if you talk about Marino. No it's me. Oh it is me. I don't I don't understand The targeting of players like this. I don't I don't get it last but not least here for the Champions League Atalanta Take Care of business against Valencia Eight four on aggregate unbelievable Joseph Illitch was incredible scored all four of Atalanta's goals in this game. And he's a he's a cult hero for me right now his. I looked at his stats in his record. It's not like he's ever been a huge enormous club. You know what I mean like a on. He's in the wind down of his career and he's just landed at Atlanta and doing all these amazing things he's kind of being out of state level for a while but as also being super talented and a Turkey to. He's probably having his best season in across all competitions. He's twenty nine games played. Twenty one goals nine assists Five goals in the Champions League fifteen goals in Syria. Well he had five goals in this tie against Valencia. And there's an amazing stat that accompanies that Illegit now becomes the first player not named messy or Rinaldo to score five or more goals in a Champions League knockout tie that's the group Aldo messy illegitimate like. Where's like left off ski or or like Van? Nestle royalties is just not the guy that I would guess. They reminds me of what happened in like USA. Ninety four wasn't it Oleg Salenko that scored like a Tony Goals for Russia against remember who it was and he ended up like sharing the Golden Boot with Romario? Someone you know is like it was this list of Brigham players. Baio remarried will only accelerate auto. Yeah this is. Another one of those games played in an empty stadium I seen it before and soccer still jarring To see what meaner Zouqi tweeted them. How weird it was. Because she was following the game Being an Italian football expert and I tweeted out our if the Messiah is empty. Is it even the Messiah? I mean the Messiah got this Mystique in the early two thousands for being this cauldron the away like you had to win your home leg because you weren't GonNa win there and is it even that does it. Is it that Katina football when there's a Web parishoners now. I guess you could say that. About a Lotta buildings I mean. Without an atmosphere it's just becomes brick and mortar. You're right But good for Atalanta. They advance or something they they advance. We don't know what they advanced to. We are in a weird time which you keep. I mean if I'm bad Marino you on Corona viruses. Just think one warrants it. Okay what to watch for what to watch. I don't know paint drying. Tvd's don't know what to watch for. Everyone I'm as of now. Just read the fixtures Williams because we don't know as of now in the English Premier League Saturday eleven. Am Manchester City versus Burnley? Asterix Saturday one thirty PM Sorry matches city Bernie asked versus Chelsea Sunday twelve thirty. Pm Tottenham Versus Manchester United on Monday four PM Everton versus Liverpool couple. Quick things before move off of it. should city lose and Liverpool win. Liverpool would win the title. Yes it could happen on Monday I'd be surprised if Manchester City lost at home to Burnley I'm very curious about Everton and Liverpool regardless just because at Goodison I almost want Manchester City to lose that game. Because I WANNA see the way. Everton treat that match at home against Liverpool. I really think it's like we've talked about. This couple is there. I mean could. Could they have a bigger game in this era? Then that one. Could you sound more like Ross from friends? First of all I think it was probably Chandler that you're thinking On his channel to simulate truly into American culture and I blow at a friend's reference and you just showed the world how Irish really our only God Yup Are you sure about the Matt's they're Andrew? Yes and don't ever question me all right And I also wanted to say that Like we were just talking about Tottenham a moment ago like the funny thing is. Let's say the Manchester City Uefa Ban is upheld and that fifth spot is up for grabs for a Champions League place Very quietly like I know Tottenham morale among fan base. They may as well be in the relegation zone right now but very quietly. This match is enormous for Spurs. Because here's the thing Josie Marino is probably gonNA continue to be the manager for next season and he's GonNa want a significant transfer budget because I don't know if you've been paying attention He wants some new players. On the squad if Tottenham don't qualify for the Champions League who get who's WHO's coming to this team right now by the way who you keeping his Harry Kane has said for for all the. He's one of our own that he's treated as and he'll always be at Tottenham Ledge matter. What happens but he made his point pretty clear when he said he will remain with Spurs as long as he feels like. There's an upward trajectory. Does anyone anyone with eyes. And a brain look at this team right now and see upward trajectory and there'll be an emboldened Manchester United with money round the corner so like suddenly like they need to pick themselves up quickly And I know I said before we need to stop. Being surprised like my expectation is that they will not win this game But if there is any sort of hope left in salvaging some kind of like future for this club To be to continue to be what they've been the past four or five seasons they gotTa Start Winning. And it's gotTa start now because this is a huge differential if they lose this game as opposed to winning it. They've only got one game. Left against the top six side after this that's against Leicester so they've got on paper. Winnable Games coming up but this is one that they absolutely desperately need So yeah pick yourself up spurs nation. It's it's still It's still a big game. It's still a big game. Jj HAVE MLS Here on what to watch for. Obviously these Games are not happening. The League has been suspended But I do want to quickly say that A quick little discussion on what happened in the cockpit. Aft Champions League up to this point that has also been suspended like we said earlier. NYC AFC losing. Just a in the first leg a total gut punch right at the end. Vargas right at the end and they looked set. They looked competitive in that game. And there is hope for for the away-leg but it's That's going to be. It's going to be very tough. Anita and Ronnie data is just having the most horrendous Dr to who is To his time as manager will they did advance to the quarterfinals hip at San Carlos? Andrew Okay And then also Atlanta United F C with a terrible start to their Quarterfinal in the CONCACAF Champions League Yeah. It's it's not looking good for them at all Obviously a game. That won't happen but I've a jolt I. I'm going to SHOEHORN IT IN AN INTER MIAMI versus La Galaxy. David Beckham faces. His former club won't be the first time Galaxy Fancy Beckham in another clubs colors saying how much time at La Means to him. That's very clever. No but yeah that game's been suspended Also I should mention Montreal With a a a really fun to watch in their CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal Speaking of watches don't rate atty on the moon was the French. Twelve of whom did not go the way that they wanted. No we talked on Yama before. It's weird seeing him in a Montreal impact. Kid It's just a it's weird. How angry Canadians got up me for saying this was not the career trajectory when he left Celtic to end up in Montreal at twenty eight. What's wrong with Montreal America? Yes yeah so Tyrian rewatch a few thaw that my chasing at the hands of Athletico Madrid would have stopped my smugness. You are wrong friends. You are very wrong for frowned schadenfreude. What's the French for Schadenfreude who by the way So first of all They lost to Olympia who Went module and one bought at late in the second half impact had a penalty. Appeal turned away by referee. Underneath Escobedo. You brought the saw who originally pointed to the spot only to reverse his decision and give a corner kick after consultation with his assistant. Olympia has mailer. Nunez looked to commit a handball offence. On a headed effort by Montreal's Anthony Jackson Hamill and to see teary. Anri upset on the sideline about a handball. Not being called was just not you. Chefs cases are desperate at eleven. Every eight eleven years later. How do you like them? Apples teary or sorry. Excuse me I was going to sit in French palms. You're still bitter about it. No I'm actually not but I did think it was kind of I would be. It was kind of funny to see the parallels I and in fairness to onery to give him his credit he did not bring it up his post-match he said he said that was not the reason they lost to schoolboy defensive errors within reason. They lost that game. And I give on retort credit for that. I merely clutching at straws friends. Nah I'll hold the bitterness of the Panama. A non goal with me forever for the US. To not qualify. I I've given it up. It's over forever The the penalty decision. I don't know ultimately maybe I have to see it again. I feel like they arrived at the right call. I think My only thing is it just feels weird that the referee who standing right there and pointing to the spot would then defer to a guy who's like forty yards away in making in changing his mind on the decision at just feels strange to me. I mean we often talk about being Qaft by both teams and referee. So maybe this is an example of it Yeah I'm not. I'm not really sure about that. One to be honest with you. The moment of the game was known of what we've spoken about so far. It was Sapphire Tater school which was a volley from thirty five yards. And here's how it sounded badges. Tell you start a cutback billlion goals in America North American soccer last. Why you ask what you do to change it. Maybe do that all right. You can't go. You can't go around. Funny Tottenham Find God in touch with us and said Because I tweeted out the goal goal. By tater of a half volley from thirty five yards. Brilliant and he goes. You're not gonNA talk about one. Yam setting it up like it was a joke like we're now just literally nodded the ball onto that can't even count as an imagine. That probably does count as so. This is a thing now like you're you've now created a vendetta against this club against manager against their key signing like you know it was A. He was making a funny joke about when Yama. Because you've because it's a known thing that you have it in for no he's career no the guy who sent him. Just trying to squeeze as a tottenham trying to squeeze any joy out of any thing related taught it was more relating to you mocking where. Wanyama's career has taken him. No it had nothing to do with that. It was funny though because it was. That's going to go down as an assist as it should. He's literally just heading into the guy as we say not. All assists are created by the way Mailbag has gone into material. Mailbag will return next week. Yeah we're GONNA need that. I think yes we were not going to have a ton of content may not creative enough to. We're going to be leaning on mail back. Please keep the male short right. I feel like like when we say to people. Hey We have a our podcast tomorrow is going to be a mailbag special. So start sending them in. Now we're going to a full episode of Mailbag. Don't you feel like that's the podcasting equivalent of when you came into school as a kid and your teacher was like okay? We're GONNA WATCH A video today. Like that was their way of saying like. I just don't feel by being in the bar till eleven last night. Watch a video. I am hung over. You do whatever you need to have this history channel documentary about The War of eighteen twelve sure studied Gulf War. Watch it that you need to see it at four o'clock afraid Let's see let's. Let's do this red card. I hear I want to get this out of the way because I don't feel good about this and so I feel like if I go. I maybe I'm burying it and people will forget later on arts. The first thing they heard and they'll stop listening through out the door of the car and a the the rescue Ron. I'M GONNA I'm GONNA forge ahead. I don't feel good about this. Because the fan aspect of soccer is is maybe my favorite part of the game And the images that we saw like the love the celebration everything we saw from. Ps G and their supporters outside the park the prince's following Wednesday's win was no it was it was special. Honestly if you were somebody who was there that's that will hopefully be remembered by a special memory. I saw ESPN AFC's account tweet. A picture of the celebration with the caption. Psd celebrating with their fans is iconic and my my initial instinct was honestly to agree with that. The images their incredible. I mean look up the tweet. It's really really something. But then I saw a tweet from Leander Charlatans soccer columnist for Yahoo and Kinda smacked me back to reality when he responded to that tweet by saying no Actually it's stupid. The point of closing the stadium to fans was to avoid a large public gathering going out to celebrate with them will only encourage more of them to come out the next time so I saw that and I thought about it and I thought I don't want to agree with him because he's Kinda pouring cold water on coal soccer moment but I'm sorry anyway slice it. He's right There's currently a ban in France for gatherings For any gathering of over a thousand people as a way of trying to fend this off but for whatever reason the. Ps G alturas were granted a special exemption by the police. So they were not there. Legally that was granted for them to do that. I know we've been able to live our lives and we don't want to remain in a constant state of fear but the sentiment but like that sentiment is kind of for another day like we said like you're going to be inconvenienced right now and you're not gonna be able to do all the things that you WanNa do and it's all in the name of public health and as cool as the moment was that was not in the best interest of public health as people are trying to do everything in their power to curb the spread of this virus so like. I'm sorry I'm being that guy. This is such a Debbie. Downer moment that I'm kind of throwing at you on something. That looked cool. But leandra charlatans with his tweet. It was harsh the way he put it but he's not wrong. Those those images that we saw yesterday from outside of that stadium three thousand people gathering to celebrate that with the team. It was cool but it probably shouldn't have probably but those people are going to be there one way or the other whether the police granted them a permit or not they were going. That was it so all right bold it does have to. I don't have to agree with it though. No you don't definitely not OK. People legal talk incoming. I want everyone just to bear with me. How long is this? Here we go. Us Soccer Federation's filings emerged at the start of the week from the lawsuit over equal pay brought by the US women's national teams within the filings. Where some hugely controversial arguments that is Julie? Foudy described on the call of the US women's game against Japan broadcast as one of the tent poles of the USF argument against equal pay so within the filings are following as outlined by Meglena in in the Atlantic who is covering this as better than anyone in the most recent document. Us Soccer attorneys argued that the ability levels between the men's national team on the Women's national team are fundamentally different that the overall soccer playing ability for the men's national team is materially influenced by the level of certain physical attributes such as speed and strength required for the job. The point is that the job of men's national team players competing against senior. Men's national teams requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength. Then does the job of women's national team players competing against senior women's national teams the federations attorneys also note that there is evidence that men's national team players face tougher competition even on a relative basis than the women's national team which makes sense on some level as the men are ranked twenty first in the world according to whereas the women are number one overall in the respective rankings while US soccer argues that this is an additional basis to deny the players motion it is also combination condemnation of their success an addition to federation pushes back against equal responsibilities as part of equal work between the two teams. They stay at that. The women only participate in one revenue generating tournament every four years. That's the fief a women's World Cup whereas the men's national team players have responsibility for competing in multiple soccer tournaments with the potential for generating a total of more than forty million dollars in prize money for US Soccer. Every four years television ratings were also tied to the concept of equal responsibilities though it is unclear how that will be listed in the job description of either. A men's national team are win women's national team player beyond similar tasks of media appearances and gain promotion. Finally the Federation Attorney Staff that working conditions also apply to the case and the main quote routinely play matches important World Cup qualifiers in particular throat Mexico Central America and the Caribbean opposing. Fan Hostility encountered in these men's national team road environments especially in Mexico and Central America is unmatched by anything. The women face while trying to qualify for an important tournament. This also extends to friendly's in the Fed in the federation's argument. Okay so let me go to. Mina kimes right now. Who breaks down the problems with all that was a good argument to make Us Soccer is trying to argue here. That the women do not deserve equal pay because they don't do equal work. They're contending that the men have more difficult jobs. This is problematic for a couple of reasons. One if you follow that logic to its natural conclusion you're basically saying women should never deserve equal pay for physical labored which I think we can. All agree is a problem to the other issue with the size and strength and speed thing. We know that's true. Everyone knows it. We don't have to deny it. Everybody knows if the US women play the US men they would be at a physical advantage but they do not play the US and they play they play other women and they dominate them. That's where the legal argument falls apart in the real world in this strikes me as incredibly short sta short sighted and catastrophically down for you a soccer because Wallace's argument that might win in court. It's one that's going to hot them in the future. Generations will not look kindly this sort of that last point she makes. They're very interesting because I don't know what it is that. Us Soccer Federation cares more about like she says this. May Win them. The argument in court. Well that may be it like. They may not care about the optics of their argument now. Carlos Cordeiro came out and apologized. Which Meghan REPEA- knows responded to an says that she doesn't buy it a budweiser Are One of the sponsors who chimed in saying they're disappointed in what was said In the filings by US soccer's attorneys also span made an excellent point. And this is the key point to me You don't pump as much Money Resources Energy time into women's soccer and yet on the revenue side. You want it to come. You say it has to. It can't compete with the men's will of course not you haven't given at the time the money or the care to do that. She she cited the example of Tennis. Where women's tennis was promoted was given equal. Tv standing as the men's game. That's the one thing I always struck me about tennis. Yeah it's always been held up as as as equal and they put. They promoted it. They put money into it. They as much as they could. Equally comparison equalised the pianist. And it flourished you know it's like me you having a plant and your plant is just amazing and you give it all the water and older nourishment needs in an at flowers open. It looks amazing. And you compare it with mine in a competition which has been given none of those things in his a weedy small liars plant. You know it's just an unfair basis for argument and by the way nobody looks at Megan routine or Carolina. Lloyd and says they can't sprint like Christian Pulisic. They're they're not as they're not as that they don't tackle as tough as As Michael Bradley so what who was comparing them. They don't play their two different realms and it is right about another thing to like. Okay you may win the court battle but this is extraordinarily bad. Pr Around a team right. Now that this country is in love with I will get turned. It's it's almost like okay. You've taken this step to prop your men's team up above your women's team but in the process because of how beloved the women's team is you have vilified your men's team like is there any financial downfall from from taking that route. I guess we'll see now. You're you're seeing men's players releasing statements essentially voicing their support like I saw DaMarcus Beasley just released a lengthy statement voicing his support for the women's fight for equal pay. A lot of players have done. It's an unfair and they almost have to. They have to know to To defend I suppose I mean they just come across really badly in this and There it's unfortunate they've been dragged into the mix of this. Yeah this comparison that US soccer's using as as Julie. Foudy said one of their tent Poles. I'll of the of the debate against are not the debate the lawsuit that has been taken by the women But I have more not. Oh you do okay. Well caught offsides man of the match. While we're on if you want to just go right. You talked about the backlash. Backlash has already begun. So my women of the match are the women's national team and it's because of what they did on the field. Let me let me deal with that part. I I guess. They put in a performance of huge amounts of skill. Two of the finest goals. I've seen look at some of the goals we've seen in the last ten days the brilliant free kick from Meghan Regino up over the wall into the top corner and the brilliant Shikha from your dialing your favorite Kristen price honest question. Has she ever scored ever scored a boring goal are every single? One of her goals. Incredible would you say the goals of a pretty high level of skill to chip the keeper from twenty yards? I looked pretty skillful. Not Not not to mention what she did against England that almost one torch out of her feet on smashes it home own believable performance day they put in and you can't take it away of the context that was worrying around in their minds before the game in protest at the comments emerge from the filings. They wore their training tops. Back to front so you could only see the four stars a not. The federation quiet crest which came. I think what an amazing move. You talked about the backlash. There's a t shirt that I'm sure selling like hotcakes. Right now off the inverted crest of the of the embroidered crests. That's inside out that they wore with just four stars on the outline of the shield. The backlash is already begun here. And I can't believe the tact that you the. Us Soccer Federation has taken against these amazing women. They are amazing because guess what they're fighting. A campaign for equal rights was scoring some of the best schools. You'll see and winning games. And that's what they do they win. You can hit their hairstyles. You can hit their demeanor. You can hit their politics if you want although. I'm not sure how you coat because but when it comes down to it. These women are winning. They're doing the job. They're just unbelievable. Yep Awesome let's see. Jj My medal match. I went with any fail harbor one of the more I think. One of the more underrated -Ly Great American soccer careers has come to an end. I think the word I used pre pod was criminally underused from two thousand seven to two thousand seventeen. He made forty four appearances for the US. Men's national team. He was a member of the two thousand ten World Cup squad and the two thousand eight Olympic squad only score two goals for the US but one of them was. I gotta say one of the more one of the most memorable. Us goals scored in the last twenty. Years is in the Gold Cup against Mexico with the score tied in the seventy third minute. Wednesday lower divisions of England. Seventy two. And your the cool thing about his career that it's not necessarily one. That was destined to happen. He so he was born in. Brazil moved to southern California and had to walk on to the US Ucla College team. Like he's not some guy who came from like just like. Oh let me just go off to Europe and like star plan to h sixteen like he he went to college had to walk on and then after two years at UCLA has talent was shining through any actually left And signed with Hamburg in the Bundesliga He also made ten primarily appearance. Darby County Great. Mls Player for New England L. AFC Colorado but most notably Sporting Kansas City. He actually joined us Last was it last year. Two years As he was awesome to talk to what a what a good dude he I think he's going to be very interested in voice in. Us Soccer Komo going forward. I hope he is You said that Your Klinsmann really. That was guy on his career international career. Yeah I don't know why I don't know what it was about his game He was a creative number. Ten style player tacking attacking midfielder forward player. That code linked to play could score. Goals could set other people up. After he posted his statement on twitter that he was retiring other players kind of came from out of the woodwork to share their praise Nat wrote congratulations on a great career. Benny love the way. You played the game best wishes on the next step. Bud Jimmy Conrad Road. Quite possibly the best passer of the ball. I have ever played with still. Don't think you get the credit you deserve. In this regard Josie altidore wrote. He came on for Spain and boss it when they were unreal class player and person some amazing memories together all the best in the future. Benny was not that famous. Confederations Cup game. So like how so Wayne reared that so it was two years later before cleansing up the job. Right because that can vary. That was oh nine. He was on the two thousand ten team. And Bob Rally was out shortly after that and Clinton came into two careers that I kind of look at almost side by side. are his and Sasha questions like two players that I really held in such high regard that you always Kinda of that for whatever reason. They're they're national team. Careers were sort of derailed. While they're club careers continued to thrive. And you never quite understood why class they both came back into the fold but it was sort of a little too late. Oh was and they never really got a proper run but yeah great player Like I said one of of all the MLS players we've had on. He was probably one of the most fun we spoke into so I wanted to make sure he got some love on this on this podcast today. What pod we did it. I'm glad it's it's this long this me he this involved because we don't know what's GonNa Happen. Yeah we're GONNA continue to do the show of course We'll do it every week Even if we have to play games ourselves one V one with Andrew. You know people. I've been playing with I I. It was so nice out over the weekend Jack and I went outside playing. He was. He's four years old. He was sensational yet. Where do you take from now from you? Sure it is. It's not I'd try to wonder. How do I harness Andrews Skill? Andrew's wife actually knows her way around a soccer ball and played in high school. And you can tell. Adra did not and you can tell. I mean when we played that one day I thought I owned her out on the wing. You couldn't get past me because if you're meaty thighs they're big flat. Pack your big flabby legs trip and are up. There was no skill in your game. Look if you want to show cards so cards. But I didn't see any that day. Me and her were the dominant players that day. You play for a living okay. You're better than all of us. Haven't touched a soccer ball and he never played for living a borderline pro. And you Wanna I against peons and yourself up like messy no. I'm a DP average player. That just made you look like a fool. That's that's it. I'm now going to train. I'm GonNa Start Training. Threatened isn't a floor with the time you've got the Roy Keane play one on one like is there any sort of game that we comply like in basketball would take one on one crossbar challenge. That could be done done. Don got on a train and I believe that I will get. You'RE GONNA train crossbar challenge. Yeah I'M GONNA go outside with a ball rain or shine snow. Whatever and I'm just I'm GonNa like you promise now and we'll do this. We'll record it. We put it up That could be fun. Okay okay. Let's do it. Oh God that is noncommittal. Let's do it all right but you see like what am I going to train? You know. I've got kids until you have a child until you have a child until you have a child you do not understand okay. Yeah that's you all over okay. Guy States if yeah keep keep Cdc DOT ORG and Look after each other yes. Yeah absolutely and keep in touch with us because I'll tell you what we got. A big MAILBAG special coming around the bend. This this glad that we did this honestly. This was important and I guess I'll see next week. All right man take care you to take your phone by listening to caught. Off-side soccer podcast.

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 93: Pulisic to Chelsea (1-2-2019)

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 93: Pulisic to Chelsea (1-2-2019)

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And welcome to the G S M C soccer podcast, of course, in the GMC podcast network. Not only soccer do we do. But of course, your host. I'm Mark Souza in with me. Of course, Jeff melanoma have been illegal everybody. Happy New Year's to everyone out there who is listening also happy holidays because I don't think we've had a show since before Christmas. So well because it's other days we've had been Christmas ABN AM to Christmas. And we got off of that. So we have some things to talk about we are now entering transfer season in Europe where twice a year European clubs can sign players loan player cell transfer windows, open transfer window. Yes as everybody was. So as everybody was saying happy New Year's I'll saying happy transfer window everybody 'cause January. I officially news official. Yes. So we have to see a lot of money get exchange. Yes. It's always I will say soccer is the one sport where it's lying season all year long. And of course, as we approached the windows, the talks the conversations the rumors he'd up, but usually there been there already been transferred that had been accepted just they begin fischel during the window time. So usually in the wintertime, though, we do see less transfers than we do in the summer because it's mid season teams are not really trying to shake it up too much. They might be trying to bring in one or one player to some teams trying to like try to maybe two or three in the Premier Li trying to get up to that. Right. You'll see like maybe a team will sign a player for depth or something like that. But usually I mean last year, we saw Lexus Sanchez get sold to Manchester United during the during the window filled. Cotin you got sold from Liverpool to Barcelona, but those are not very often. I do expect to see a couple of big ones. We'll talk about that later on. But we have to talk about the biggest transfer in United States men's national team soccer history as the star of the US national team Christian pulisic has officially and this had been rumored for a long long time. But he has officially put ink to paper he has signed with Chelsea football club. He will complete the rest of the season with his club in Germany for Brucie Dortmund. So he will finish out the year in hope in dorms, and I right now for the boondocks league the German league. So he could actually be a part of a championship winning team and then move on. But he will be playing for Chelsea football club next next fall. As the new season kicks off for a record seventy three million American dollars. Whether it translates to it is one of the top ten most. One one of the top ten most expensive transfer deals in English Premier League history. I'm not sure what his contract to look like he will obviously be getting a raise. But I'm not sure how much he'll get paid compared to some of his counterparts can Chelsea recall him though to their team in during this time. So what of times on a player is alone doubt? You can recall them, and you have to pay a fee like you have to pay. Do we know his feet like a late fee? You know, something like that. But. I do not believe they will recall him. Well, would be shot. Granted they are do have forty three points compared to Liverpool's fifty four point. So it's what Christian postage would not play for them this year. Yeah. He I'm just I'm just trying to read off if they wanted to maybe due to win games and win the Premier League. I don't think. Yeah. I don't know. What is contract? I am. I be written in his contract that they they cannot for whatever reason recall him from his loan because he's still playing Dortmund. But now he's officially a Chelsea player. Playing on loan Dortmund set of Dortmund player. But I guess with that comes it. Honestly, it's something that. I don't know Trach. She'll. Yes. Like dortmund? Because a lot of times they don't sell them in the winter because they're a team like Dortmund is trying to win their league. They're not trying to sell one of their better players, obviously a cell. They could not refuse in. So it might be something where it's like, okay. We'll say, and we agree, but he has to finish out season with us. Okay. Fine. We'll take that. So, but you bring up a very good question. And that was kind of where I was going with this is if he will play when he does actually get the Chelsea shirt on will he play on the team will he start? Will he come off the bench as a stands right now? A guy named Eden hazard plays the same positions. And he's one of the top five players in the world say that's that's the best player on their team by far. Yes. And then you look at the other wing position. And you got Willion the Brazilian player. Any of Pedro the Spanish player. Both players are starters on their countries. And those are really good soccer countries. So will he be able to replace these? Men. Now, do you put them maybe left mid well Chelsea play four three three. So there to wingers. They don't have either have maybe they could. Mix it up. I guess they won't because their coach. That's like the style that he is. He's stubborn about it type of thing. He just plays a four thirty three. That's just he they brought him in. And I'm just trying to come up with. Maybe they would they would the bigger question though, is the would you waste that talent on the bench. Well, pull the sich is still a player that's growing. He's not one of the best one hundred players in the world. But he's he can't be in the future. Oh, yeah. He's only twenty years old. He's only twenty and he's probably the best talented American player of all time. Like at this point. It's pretty impressive. He still has a career to have. We don't know if he'll have as good of a career van Adana inner Clint Dempsey, but he is more talented at this age than both of those players one hundred percent. He is the biggest largest transfer an American soccer history. And that is that is adjusted for inflation. So it's not just like, okay. Well, he was this year not ten years. Yeah. So, but as we know. Oh about the transfer window and rumors and all this and that Eden hazard, he it is said that there's a deal in place that he will be sold a Real Madrid in the summer for a hundred and seventy five million dollars US. Yes, I think US if it's if at least I would probably say maybe two hundred plus US. So there is that rumor, and he has kinda mentioned that he would like move to realme Amine row Madrid. Let's be honest. It's kind of like the peak. If you go to Real Madrid, you're guaranteed that you were going to be rich. I mean, they're already very very wealthy. But you know, you can expect the highest contract that you've ever had you can expect the luxuries of playing for Real Madrid. And of course, playing it's like playing for the Lakers. Yeah. Rama dribs just a brand name Chelsea's a big name too. Don't get me wrong. But I mean, we are talking about Real Madrid. They just are one of two to three most notable clubs in the entire world. And that's that. So if hazard goes there, then there is a spot for pulisic possibly wiggle his way into the starting lineup. Also, William from Brazil is said to possibly being on his way out the one thing there's two things to look at here. One is that Chelsea doesn't usually play. They're young talented players. They liked to have a veteran squad in it. Does the naysayers will say at stupid for polish to go there because he won't play. They will play players who are more. Seasoned than him at this point like twenty five year older type stuff right on the flip side of that Chelsea's aging club that needs an invigoration of youth talent, it's better to pull the trigger now than when your teams in the gutter with one of the players that could be standing in his way, though to start is Kalama Callum Hudson Dawei, and he is a young English starlet. That's like eighteen years old. And I'm pretty sure he he is he will be one of the best English players in a mainstay of their national team. And maybe you're to some people are even critical of Chelsea for not playing him more. He's been playing a little bit here and there lately, but some people are like man, we need to play him. We know he's young, but he is super talented. But the thing is that you don't overplay young KB as what if like I- worse comes to worse. He gets injured. Now, he can't be the same player and potential that used to have just wait wait, I would say like you don't marinate steak for five minutes. You. Marinated for a good day or two. And then you're good to go. Yeah. So I mean, take there's a couple sides of the coin look at American soccer fans. Are the cynics will say he shouldn't have gone Chelsea he should have gone another English club because they don't really play young players. But on the flip side if he goes to Manchester City, he'll never play. If he goes the Liverpool. He'll never play. If it goes Manchester United he could possibly play. That's one other thing like made besides Chelsea Manchester. Manchester United has young players that are even as young as him or younger that are already starting and playing the same position and are probably improving Marcus rash for Anthony Marciel. I mean, lean guards not even old. He's only in his early twenties. I mean, if you if United really went after a maybe he would make wouldn't say start right away. I would say maybe he would be in reserved, obviously. But I would say he would might be started within like two months. Because like you said that's a young team. But I think if you if you had a pick a team in the Premier League, maybe Chelsea is the best fit form in the long run based on long jibbidy, not just a right now. Yeah. So you know, it's going to be one of those things where it's wait and see approach. Now there is an American player. Matt me on SCA who's a centreback who was bought by Chelsea four years ago and has been loaned out for four years running now. So there are people who say the young players cannot break into the squad there. But again that team is aging they need youthful players, and I don't know postage starts right away. But I would be shocked if they loaned him out I think that he will be on the Chelsea squad. He might not be a starter. But he will play. Do you think the like be ready because we might have an injury from our one or veterans we need you thing. Or is it this way there's two sides of this coin they bought pulisic because he is a young talent. But they also bought him because he's a young American Dallant. Because now every kid in the US walking down the street has seizures Christian pulisic, Chelsea Gers. Chelsea. She just became the invoked team to like as an American sports fan because you don't have to like soccer to root for in a map in America. Exactly. You know what? I mean. Yeah. Like, you don't have to. It's just it's kind of hard to say other sports because usually the US has the best league of them's boy like NBA is the best basketball. Yeah. And fills only football league, but best either entirely they're still league arena football. Several American rather in the American football hockey, National Hockey League. Yes, there's great Russian players. Great European players. They all play in the US pretty much. But I I would just say like that is business wise, that's im- brilliant. Chelsea absolutely. Because now they just they might just tripled their sales jerseys based off this sale alone. They've probably have they probably make plenty of money, but telling their jerseys. They just doubled that or maybe even triple with this, for example, at all it's all the United States. That's one part or example, when Juventus paid one hundred million for Rinaldo they made up just in jersey sales. They made about fifty five million in the first week. They almost even out already. They're gonna they're gonna make money Juventus is gonna make money hand over fist by signing. Rinaldo before he even kicked a ball like before he even touched a ball before the whistle. Blew the start the season they made like two thirds of their money back because it's all about the revenues are the jersey. Sales and ticket sales go off the charts. So Chelsea was Ventas probably already had sold out seats this like people would probably buy season tickets like crazy in that matter, even more they probably up the prices. So Chelsea was one of the top four I would say most popular clubs in the United States English clubs. Maybe only around I would say like named people name at team in the Premier League people. Like, oh is that the Chelsea and? Yeah. Yeah. Their their brand in the US. I mean, Manchester United's going to be the most popular team on the US arsenals of big team. In the Liverpool up there a little bit of ever pull to and and then Chelsea, but in Chester city the bottom five if you had to put a five list, even put them in the five way if you put a top five list of most well known Premier League clubs in into the United States fan base. Would you put them in the five who Chelsea? Yeah. Or? Oh, yeah. Chelsea's top-five for sure I would say I would argue that Chelsea. Even still more popular the Manchester City whose like Ben the popular team. No, I'm not gonna lie. Like once. I started watching soccer. And like I grew up with it. I knew mantis United. Then I was like, oh, there's a city team like that. They were always the little brother. They're they're actually this season of obviously. But yes, Manchester City was famously called by the old legendary Manchester United coach, Alex Ferguson. He called Manchester City that quote, unquote, noisy. Neighbors like they were just like kind of they're kind of just like like they were just a club. They didn't have much money. And then they got bought and then they became a household. It got bought by like one of the richest people in like in American terms. It's like Ellie clippers and the Lakers. Right. Yeah. And then the clippers finally got good. I got or thirty. It's perfect example cities doing that right now pretty much. That's a good way to put it. Yes. So I mean with poll sich, I mean, again, I understand the other side of the coin understand the cynic. The always not. Gonna play 'cause he went to Chelsea like Liverpool. Plays young players are Manny night plays young players. Yes. But he has an opportunity to break into the squad because of their NA transitional period where their better players are aging or leaving. So they're gonna gather up her thirties. Right. Would you say William is about thirty years old hazard so twenty eight I'll okay he's in his prime. Yeah. That's why he's gonna go to Madrid. That's why I was thinking about like, here's the thing. Chelsea they have a club rule or they do not sign any over thirty years old for a longer than a one year contract. That is a club rule that they stand by. So smart a guy like Willion a guy like Pedro. Yes, they get playing time there, and yes, they might enjoy themselves, but they don't have any long term security in their contract. But one year deal all the time. It's not it's not a guarantee that it's not like so for them. One of them would rather go like William for examples been linked to Barcelona where he would be a bench player for them. But he'd be looking at three or four year contract. And you think has. Hazards gone to. Hazard is going to Real Madrid. I think that. Let's put it this way. How they've been in talks with in soccer in soccer where there's smoke. There's fire. Yes. But when Real Madrid comes calling you're selling because they're the team that you say you won't get what we're gonna. We're like what do you want for him? Okay. We'll give you two million more than that. Just to do it today. You know, they're under fifty million share hundred two million seal it because they have that revenue for this way. If hazard wants to go, he will go, and I think he'll go, and that might be the best in the long run for the American fan base to see there might be it might make Chelsea worse off in the near in the short term. But if you're a Christian pulisic fan, you want him to leave because then you get two chances of raking into the squad on both wings instead of just maybe fight in his specialties left-wing, correct? Yeah. All right. In modern soccer. You have your right footed players play on the left wing and your for the players in the right lane because you want them to cut back onto their strong foot shooting position. But you gotta you don't necessarily have to play that way. Plus not every team as a left winger because of left for the players are not like there's not fifty lifted. I am as well. It's not but. A lot of times teams might not even have a good enough left-footed player to play on the wing where they just have to write for the players. Yeah. Well, it terms of Chelsea right now just based on population billion billion hazard and Pedro for players. So they don't have a limited winger. It's more long lines of like just talent rather than worry about the foot. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. In a perfect world if you could pick and choose. Yeah. You'd have messy on the right with his foot Rinaldo on the left or the right for. In a perfect. Could you imagine? I mean, it's impossible. Just can you afford? Both those fief nineteen and start making your transfer. Is you know, if you wanna buy apparently nights, he's horrible ratings. That's why I like keeping eighteen so far. So. In eighteen I actually had messy on the Chelsea team. Ironically, again, the pulisic he is officially going to Chelsea it's a done deal. No, more rumors. It was rumored that he would either go there Byron Munich, he gets some of the revenue for jersey sales. Correct. On his contract, but probably not he's just gonna make wages. I would just say like five percent. I would just ask for that. Because I think he knows going to Chelsea kids are going to buy those jersey everyone's in marriage. He might not be popular jersey there. But he'll be pop your jersey here. 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And what a way to ring in the new year with a matchup between river pool and Manchester City that game will happen tomorrow. It is Thursday the only game on Thursday. Of course, you can understand. Why English Premier League would have that on a standalone day? And of course, it's because these two teams they were both the favorites to win the league this year. I think city was the odds on. Favor but Liverpool was not far behind the both popular picks. But it's Liverpool who surprisingly have a seven point lead over their Manchester rivals and it's a big game. Jeff, we have to be honest. If Liverpool wins this game, they will be ten points better than Manchester City with about seventeen games to play which they're still a lot of games, but ten points also have a big collapse. In order to gen a big lead. Again, liverpool. Liverpool comes into this game again up seven points. Now, the last time these two teams met was October seventh, and it was such a dole games zero zero very unlike these two teams it's not often that both teams go in a game without scoring and especially both teams on scoring. That was weird is seemed like both teams were a little bit hesitant to try and press. Each other push each other. It seemed very friendly. Right. A little too friendly. And I think this time around it's going to be different especially because Liverpool knows that city needs this win more than they do. Right. I think we'll see a different Manchester City come out. Now, it's been all nice and cute the last couple days pep Guardiola. The coach of Manchester City said that you're in coop is the best coach in the world. And you're gonna Klopp said that Manchester City is still the best team in the world. And they're all, you know. Should we get his lips off the dudes bum? They're no they're both. They're doing it. Right. They're both. I'll just kiss already. I wanna see one coach over here. One of these managers say, you know, what were the best team? We're gonna prove it that. I think that would be fun. The these clearly these men are not UFC fighters is basically where I'm going with this. They're not selling the fight. All right. So the fight. There are no Conor McGregor. I guess you don't need to sell the fight when you have these two clubs and the this collection of players on the same field. This time will be played at the hod stadium. Of course in Manchester. In. I will reiterate. Moro's match between sitting will report is a big big game. If city even if they draw I think their chances of winning the legal take a big hit if they lose. I think they might forget about it all together to be quite honest with you. We will see what happens as. Another thing that happens in English sock. Not just English soccer. But most of these leagues in Europe when the temperatures start to drop they also play more games where seeing a lot of games being played on the weekend and midweek, whereas you're not seeing scheduled with just one game a week anymore. It's one game Saturday one game Wednesday one game Sunday one game Thursday things like that. So. We'll see what kind of lineup rotation. There is Liverpool's just been on fire. I mean, it's put them out are they? Okay. No. I don't think they're. Okay. Well, that's a tragedy. They've won. They haven't lost all season. Their last. Let's see the last time. There was there was four games. They've won by at least two goals. They've won three one two zero four zero five what their goal differential. Their goal differential. Is a plus forty and Manchester cities, plus thirty eight Manchester City, she has more goal scored. But they have more goals giving up liver has eight goals given up eight this entire season second-best is Chelsea and man city at sixteen. So they are literally two times better at their goalies times better than everyone else's just our defense Vinton. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of credit has to go to Virgil Van Dyke. The back from from Holland. He has been an exceptional player for Liverpool. One of the greatest transfers that they've had last year. In fact, they got him. And it was a little controversial a lot of people said, why would we pay so much for a defender, but he has lived up to it. And he I credit him big time. They have had other players, of course, signing goalkeeper. Allison the Brazilian from Roma another big signing. But I have to say, first and foremost, it's been Virgil Van Dyke. It's been the back line. Yes. Ellison has made some good saves. He has proved his worth, but he's also not facing too much because that defensive line has been stout. Stella's anybody you could even argue that Virgil Van Dyke is the best centreback in the world right now. Whereas before some people might have raised eyebrows at that and still say still some people raise eyebrows at that. I know somebody's probably listening saying what about Sergia Rama's what about? About a key Leney and for Juventus. Those guys are great Virgil Van Dyke is a lot younger, and I feel it his form right now. He is the best center back in the world. Doesn't mean that he is the best centreback? I don't know. But at this moment time, he definitely is an icy his best his best days ahead of him rather than behind him like the other two previously mentioned so. Moving on though, Manchester City recently, they've been winning games. But you're kind of seeing chink in the armor a little bit with them their form. I like that in the armor. Yeah. They're form isn't the best even with their recent wins. I feel like there was like a a sense of invincibility with them where now it's like it's almost like they're struggling to find it. Now, they also Crystal Palace and Leicester City. They did win their last match against Southampton. But they were coming off a two to a row, they haven't kept a clean sheet in quite some time. They're giving up goals every single game. It seems like and that's the problem with them. Yes, they can score. But if they don't keep people from scoring against them. It's hard to come back. They gave up three goals to Crystal Palace. That is that is probably the most like most worrisome breakers, scored seventeen goals as he's in China on the bar. To worst in the holy. And they are the in the bottom three. No, they're fourteen. They're they're actually there on nineteen points. But they're not a good scoring team. They're not an attacking team and they scored three goals against Manchester. Sad is a serious like red flag for me. Yeah. So because when when they play teams like Liverpool, they're outmatched on on the defensive side. They are. And that is something that beyond how good and how successful pep Guardiola has been his career as a manager. His teams can get beat defensively. Usually his teams are so great and appealing and aesthetically pleasing attacking with the ball going forward. But they can have mental lapses in. You know, oftentimes when he is criticizes because maybe the defensive positioning defensive philosophy isn't a up to par some of his rival managers, right? So. Yeah. Well, rival the right word. I mean, other managers that you'd put in the same classes, Gordon Deal is what it's more competitive. Ago marinas. Ben Gordon deal is biggest rival in. He's known for how stout defending his defenders are like in terms of his teams they played very defensive minded. They don't give up a lot worse. Gordon, ROY you can play very open game against teams and see. What happens? I play a lot of back and forth. So moving on those speaking of Marino, we gotta talk about Manchester United Manchester United has been on fire since firing Josie Marino. Yeah. No. Well, you go you go. I was going to ask you it'd been rumor that he was on his way off for quite some time. And he is out the door. Now in the team has been playing great. They've been loving it Paul pug, one of the best players in the world. He is all of a sudden playing like one of the best players in the world. Again. Do you think that? Firing. Marina was executive thing. They needed or do you think that this is kinda just short term success, and maybe some of their fatal flaws will start to come back to the surface. Yeah. Turn to the services a whole different aspect of it. But I would just say that they're just they're just their careers are just meant to be against each other. No, I'm just talking about Marino. Just rena. I'm sorry. I'm saying since Manchester United fired him they've been on a roll. So they lost to Liverpool in his last game. He was fired. Then since then they've won five, you know. It's always one three one and four whites. Always sometimes it change in scenery is all you need to really show. Like, you know, just I know it's a big thing firing him in all like, but the littlest changes can be the biggest rewards. You know, what I mean aspect, and I like sometimes the hard harshest decisions lead to goodness condense. That's a word is gonna word. I have no idea some illness yet. Goodness. Well, the sometimes I won't say tragedy but disappointment would lead to. Achievement. And that's what's happening. Yes. So I think we'll see. I think we'll see this continues Manchester United. It was fortunate for them that they had pretty decent fixtures in a row, but they can keep this going Paul pod. It's kind of leads me to question about him though. Because. He was out of favor with the manager the manager and him did not get along. It was obvious that he wasn't having fun playing for Manchester United when marina was there. And then the day that Marino's fired he kind of post like an Instagram picture that seemed like a little bit immature kind of maybe insinuating that it's funny that marina was fired. What do you take Paul Pago? Do you think that he lacks a little professionalism because of how he would play games where obviously he wasn't enthusiastic, and it'd be like man, you're just another guy out here. And then right when he leaves all of a sudden we see the World Cup winning Paul pod. Again. We see him scoring goals. We see him creating we see him having freshdirect it. Yeah. We see them having fun. He's an animated player. So when he's not dabbing, for example. Then we that's the thing. I know he's that he he is famous his. Abrasion is the dab like that's his thing. And he's famous for it. And now we see him just having a blast. Does it say something about his professionalism, though, his immaturity though, that it took the manager getting fired for him to like play his at least give his best maturity starts at the dabbing. I mean like like, for example, like players can play good or bad. But like the effort is still there with him. The effort was not there that was the problem. You know? Yeah. And you know, like immaturity is a huge part of any sport. Really? And if you have immaturity, sometimes people love to see lose or get school. You know, I think mainly watching these. Yeah, for sure, and I think, you know, with the recent the they have the early success with Ole Gunnar soul skyer taking over as manager. It's been fun. I know the players are enjoying themselves. They're about to kick off here in about thirty minutes for their match against new. Newcastle United if they win again that'll be a four game winning streak. They're playing great right now. So with that being said. Everything's going well from Chester United and right now, we see in Manchester City have a little bit a little bit of bumpy road. I guess you could say some chinks in the armor. Right. So me like. Maybe Manchester's turning red. Again, we will see however one team that we need to talk. Proce pro evolution soccer reference. So one thing that we need to talk about though is Tottenham Hotspur Tottenham Hotspur. They win against Cardiff City, three nil. All three goals coming in the first twenty five minutes. They just they just kept it coming. It was just a wave just a wave. But MS was coming off a loss in that game. They had lost to wolves. Surprisingly that was a big upset. And I think they were coming in this game saying we've got to prove that we're still top team. They got back on shark without win. They are now in second. Again, if Manchester City ties or winced today then or tomorrow excuse me, then taught him third but still taught him forty eight points five points better than Chelsea though. At least be third at worst. By the end of the way. It's one of those games where you know, where teams mad in the other teams like, you know, the team's screwed. Yeah. They came out they came out firing came out past and they were a better team than Cardiff, and they showed it early and they got the lead and they didn't stop. They scored the second goal this third goal. And then that was it. That's that's all they needed. They all needed was to prove a that. The wolves lost to them was a fluke, and they proved it against for sure. And especially when you score three goals in the first twenty five minutes. And then you're like, they they could have scored more, obviously. I think I think so yesterday also we had arsenal dominate Fulham again arsenal they came out strong. They were up two goals. They give up a goal but two quick goals. Right after they get scored on to really put the nail in the coffin arsenals back on track. The English Premier League is just hot right now. Like, yes, it's always the best league. But man is a good right now with Manchester United being good with arsenal. Getting back on track winning games. Leicester city's winning games wolves are in top eight there on pace for their best season ever. There's some good teams Everton in West Ham, United or good soccer teams and their tenth and eleventh respectively. That is insane to me because those teams spend massive amounts of money. I mean Everton they got Rashar Lison. They got Andre Gomes's got Yeary Meena. They have Lucas Dina. They got all types of high priced high quality players West Ham, United, of course, Cheetos there. But flip a Anderson was a big off season signing for them transfer in the summer, they have are not of it. They have just so much talent. I mean, you have ISA in the center back Fabian, skis keeper, these teams are just loaded, and it's so hard to be good in this league. So going back to Chris called the Premier League for reason going back to Christian pulisic, it will be fun to see them play in a league where every single game is a big game in every single game is competitive to the to like every game is like you don't know who's gonna win. I mean, we're seeing it all the time like the top teams can drop points all the time. We're seeing it all the time wolves just be taught them they've played tough against every top club. Honestly might have caused on them the Premier League itself. I those games where they would look back if they if they lost by two or three points and say, well, we should have won that. Yeah. That I know there. They're pretty behind liberal in general, but that win would put them, but what fifty points? Todd him. Yeah. The no they'd be at fifty one right now if they want beat wolves. Yeah. So they only down my three and set of exact. Yeah. And in in this league leads are hard to come back from like like, he's only seven points are two crucial different Chelsea's only eleven points out of Liverpool. And I'd say that they have a one percent chance of winning. But like Sixers WADA games. Yeah. But between three point six points is astronomical. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And speaking of astronaut, Michael, you know, what's been also astronaut Michael audio books. Audiobooks motivate us brings us closer together and inspire us. There's no better place. Listen, audible audible has the largest audio books on the planets. And now audible members get more than ever before each month to get three titles of their choice. One audiobook to audible Ridge's in Finnish programs that can't get anywhere else. There's never been a better time experience. Audible try it free for thirty days. 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If Manchester United wins game their confidence their excitement over their new manager over the current crop of players will be astronomical and Tottenham. Yes, they just rebounded against wolves. They beat Cardiff City to get back on track. But man that would be another loss that would hurt their chances to win the league you're saying it's this Sunday. Yes. Am actually, I don't think. That's right. Sorry. They have a break. They break. It's thirteenth. It's next yet next week. Yes. So they do have some time to rest, but they will be missing one of their key players, and that's hung ming-sun from South Korea. He will be leaving Spurs. He's one of Spurs best players especially lately, he has been on fire for them scoring goals having fun creating chances. He will be returning the South Korea for the Asian Games the Asian Cup, and he. Has to fulfill that duty that's one thing about playing a player from South Korea. Is that they're obligated to play in these minutes. He will miss three games in a row for Tottenham. At least would is tough huge, especially at the end of the season when they're they're already not a deep team Tottenham has been struggling lately because they're not a deep team if they have an injury or two they really feel it that that club is not deep Lake City. They're not deep bike even Man United. They're not deep even like arsenal. They don't have the ability to have multiple key players injured at one time or out for various reasons. So he's out if they sustained another injury or anything like that during that time guys like Eric Miller or always injury prone. You could see Taunton being in a tough position. So it's really something to keep an eye on if we're being completely honest. Yeah. That game will be fun. When we come back from the from the English week break there that will be fun now. I wanna talk about Juventus still undefeated. Ventas is still undefeated in the sand. Surprising to me. That's that's rising to me at all Rinaldo. Brought them back to or a goal down last game. He scores. Two goals. They went to one he's been exactly what they wanted. He's been exactly what they paid for. And I know that the league they've won the league seven years in a row so winning another. It's not fair now. Yeah. Winning another week titles. I think they just for the Champions League. No, yes. Yeah. They have not had a problem winning their domestically. But the Italian league is better than I can recall. There's some good teams. But they have a nine point lead over Napoli, which is big already nine point lead. They haven't lost their nineteen games. And they've won seventeen. They tied to Napoli has won fourteen tight. But they've lost three games has he been? Can we say now that he was exactly what they needed it? Like that. Can we justify them buying him? Or do we need to wait until they win something in the Champions League? I don't think they need to win. Anything is like I think he already has proven that he's worked. What if they lose the round of sixteen though they play out let to Madrid which is a very good team team. That knows Rinaldo very well it all depends on how he plays. If he if he struggles were saying, it doesn't matter at this point. If he struggles in the champions, they get knocked out, then he then it was not a the right move. Well, give them a couple years. Well, he's already thirty three. He's only going to this. I know his age, but I'm going to say this. If he does do everything can he scores. Two goals for them this game against co. Echo. Then he was worth it. Then he was like that's not his fault. Right. They could lose a game. But he could play well that I get it. He can do everything he can't help that doesn't score. And he's not really effective like you. You don't have to score to be effective. But like, let's say he's kind of irrelevant on the field doesn't make much of an impact and they lose then. We'll see the criticism. Probably. Oh, absolutely. He needs to show up for this game. He's a big game player. That's for sure we still have time before that. I think the second round of the champion kicks off mid February if I recall correctly, but. Knock on wood by the time that happens. Also Aaron Ramsey who is an arsenal player. He's being linked to Juventus as a possible transfer. But not till the summer how much think they can get. Well, he would actually be free because he's out of contract. That's right free transfer. Yes. So he's been going. That's a pretty good free chance for Aaron Ramsey's being linked with a lot of clubs right now. Because he's free of the hottest commodity. All you have to do is pay his contract and get them to you don't have to agree with the team you can ago sheet directly with the player, which is nice, right? And that's probably that's because the thing is the transfer. And it was like talking with the team you pay so much just even talk to the guy just when you like Christian pulisic just bought for seventy three million and Aaron Ramsey could probably get sold if he wasn't a free transfer for like thirty to forty million dollars. And he's and then you don't even guarantees gonna be on your team gallery salary and everything. Well, I mean, you you only pay them money when you sign the player, you don't it's not like, right? You don't. Hey, the player and then. You can do all these you can do all these talks with the team not even be able to exactly with Ramsey. You get to negotiate directly. So. Transfers season man transfer season is crazy. Speaking of Rinaldo, though, going back to him. He has told the Portuguese federation that he will rejoin the national team because he told everybody that he was taking two thousand eighteen off the rest of the year. And some people were sped mental. They were freaking out just saying like, oh he's done with national team. But he said, no, I'm not playing for the rest of this calendar year, but I'll be back in two thousand nineteen and he just informed. The federation I'm ready to come back at your selection that your disposal. So if you want me to play call me up, I'm there. So I don't think he's gonna be there for the next World Cup. I think he will be. But not as easy what? Hell see that's four years. Correct. So thirty seven. That's old that is very old, especially he's gonna be what he's left wing. He's a centre forward nowadays because he doesn't have the same endurance or speed as he wants had. So he plays. So what are the kosher the goal? He'll be thirty seven center forward or striker. I mean that national team has a lot of young talent. He'll even start. The thing is about the Portuguese national team is out there thorn in their side has always been center forward like they produce over their history. They've produced so many awesome midfielders. And then like if they do have a weak link, it's or centre forward position. So he could be there in four years as their starting center forward. I mean, yes, they have a lot of young talent. But it, but again a lot of their young talent is midfielders Ryan that's kind of their thing. Like, it's just they produce all these creative wingers in attacking midfielders, but they've had some underwhelming central. Strikers in the past and he is in the right position to put to be an older player and still be in the squad. I do want to talk about his. National League friend his buddy peppy Pippi is said to be so my favorite name. He is a free agent right now because I'll tell you why this is actually pretty interesting. He played for Turkish club Besiktas who is a Champions League caliber club. They don't have any money, and they have released peppy from his contract letting him go as a free agent because he's highest paid player, and he's agreed to walk away as well. He might be joining wools. It sounds like they have a deal in place that he will be coming to the English. Would you like to see peppy in English Premier League? I wouldn't mind it at all. Some other teams might be interested to I've heard talks of arsenal. But wolves would be natural place for him because the head coach nuno's spirit to Santa Portuguese. They have seven Portuguese players that regularly play. I mean. It would make sense. It will be interesting, though, if you probably get the most money in the Premier League than any other the pro. Yeah. He'll he'll get paid. He'll get paid honest. He I. Did you did he'll actually paid he paid the wages of some people in his for his Turkish club because the team couldn't pay their employees, and he out of his own party? Hey, just players like secretaries like that is work in the cafeteria. Like, he paid the wages of people who just that is a serious character move that you can't help. But he was known as being a hothead, and like some people would question his character. That was pretty cool. That's a I don't know any other person. I would do that. And he and they said even look at the cafeteria like, hey, can we release you without paying you like a fee to get rid of you because we don't have any money and you make the most on the team. And he said, that's fine. He said, so he wasn't insulted by the fact, they had a release them. No. He understood the problems now like that sexually other people. Do they can those people still don't have to pay him Nelson? Maybe they have money to pay everybody else. I hope so. Yeah. To seek this is in financial problems. But they usually teams we'll figure it out. But anyways, I think that's what we have for today. All right. 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Where Do Man United Go From Here?

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Where Do Man United Go From Here?

"Hello that welcome into the show can tell you. There's a whole lot of Muehling going on in the city of mulling. Well, the red half of mentors doing plenty of mulling. Lots of pondering. Wow. Oh. When you're Muslim for over mulling taking place on the Gulf regular daily, Nicole shack his lot with me at Julia Laurent is where this and I'm Bank. He was on. She add the Dhabi as well. Last night. Just refresh your memory the tale of the tape. The United over the last three games is a good. Let's. I think good is not the word Taylor. Whoa. Phone elegance three nil in the champion against boss. Let a grand total of five shots on goal. And no goals from open play in the last five games. So what's the root cause this has been something? That's divided. Many people already. Gary Neville, Roy Keane getting into on that British Avila from only gonna soldier after the Dhabi defeat. See a reaction here today from the louds. Crafty Trump's today as well. But we don't take him on the, of course, that's something. We need to improve something that you. You can't really. Say that we've it's a lack of effort, but it's the quality in the Indian today wasn't good enough. And then not Marcus rash. Talking to Geoff Shreeves off to the game today. We didn't play like Manchester United not playing like not just and that's not right by it should be to work hard and give you over the badge. The last couple of weeks. We know what's been going wrong. It's just a matter of putting it back to how it was the mentality and the willingness to run for your team mentioned, Gary Neville, ROY key. Steve bring you in. I the root cause disagreement between those two former players the amount of effort being put in the moment by I think can see it. In those quotes, this OSHA saying one thing saying this plenty of efforts rash saying something else. I'm not quite sure. Where to go first the button lane is the fight that we're talking about Chechen ated and we'd actually set in the waste time. Talking about team trion MS up, -solutely ludicrous, but issue aided as an absolute disgrace. And basically, it's this grace on a huge percentage of the money station. Players that their willingness to try hard is being questioned as finally statements. Rush is the youngest member of Manchester natives team, and I think it's an indictment of what appeared dressing room. They've got you've got the youngest player in the team who actually still try figure out his game who's winning on what may be wrong. And clearly from what he's in. He's leading the people's is. Well, he's listening to that only gonna show scout on the other hand. All these do is cover up for his team because he's seeing the effort was there. I've never been in my mind ever ever praises for trying hard. And then he's tried it convinces that the actually been making chances and the chances first of all you got to make a decent chance. The Don vote goodness knows how many games. So listen, the whole thing's wrong. But the worst thing is we're question whether this Ryan, well, let's talk to someone who says you lead in your view. Having watched the game in person last night were year nine hundred putting in enough effort. I just didn't think it was good enough. Overall. Don't think he was good enough in terms of. I don't think it was good enough. Technically, I think I don't think it was good enough tactically as well. We try to work out before the game. How tactically sore Sherhat sets up his team, then we try. We wonder during the game. What was going on toxically because they looked apart from the first twenty minutes, maybe that we're all over the place. And I was it was going to be easy for city once they found their feet to to go through that United midfielder United defense pretty easy did especially in the second half. And after the game. Once again, social doesn't take any sort responsibility. He's team losing again. That's the seven different in the last nine. And once again, it's nothing to do with him is not he's fall. And this time he's even more in denial by just saying. Yeah. The boys tried that was okay. That was better we created chances. We didn't take them football. Let's move on. I just don't think that's good enough. How'd you quantify effort alley? Did you see enough of it being put out there? Well, let me just say that the best version of this man to say United at the very top of their game. The very top of their effort is not good enough to be Manta city. Now, they can complicate it. They can make it difficult so on and so forth, but at their best to city is better than mine to say ninety. So let's start there. If I'm gonna question Solska, and I'm going to question might say, it's not because they lost to mantis city montecito superior team to what they are what I would say is that if you're having players within that team that are questioning the effort of others. Now, you have people going in different directions. And if that's the case, and whatever happened to the happiness and joy that was brought to the locker room by on his whole skyer is that all gone now. And I guess to the point of all they're gone source car on what he's saying to the press. He's maybe thinking, look if I go on throw this theme on the boss now if I go crazy on this team. Now, I lose any possibility in any chance of this team. Putting together a performance against Chelsea in the weekend that maybe keeps us in the running for the four. So maybe a have to turn the focus into that rather than whether guys were running or not. But if you questioning whether guys are running or not, then we're back to orange slices and juice boxes. This is we're talking about you soccer now. There is no way that professional player at any level professional, but certainly at the scale of majesty night in what they are as cloak should be questioned about their for. And if that's the case in all those guys who's effort, you're questioning should be right on the list of the guys that should not be available for selection anytime soon, and in the near or this future for my to say, it's one of those guys are the way if equally classifies if he's one of the guys that you consider he's giving you what you're asking him to give you then. Yes, you ought to consider the possibility that maybe it's not for him to say United jacket as you all are going to shout at Manchester United. I was hugely impressed with everything that he had to see how we manage the frame discussion around this Manchester United team who'd been feeling. Up until that point. And I think you show the results of of of his leadership very early on over the last few weeks. I have become less and less convinced by source car on what is how to see. And what is how to do this press conference on the line at offer me if you're a manager of a professional football club? Anybody over the age of twelve years old new resorting to pointing out effort on energy on talking about Pasha. You have totally lost it that is a Cup out at the highest level in terms of professional football. You don't go there. And and. German is right. So it's not take any responsibility to to sit here in front of the cameras in front of the was media onto say, he saw reaction when he show reaction to what you go in halftime. But Nell telling the game at one mill you somehow tending to game, and then you give the ball away. And Fred does what what he does? You wanna talk about reactions eleven half months ago. Manchester City at the had to beat Manchester. United to win the league. Halftime it's to nil. Manchester United comeback win three two. That's what rush for this talking about when he says, Manchester United do not lose his games gone. Yeah. For me to these game. We always talk about people carved the who destroy nd Milan's dressing room and team, and then was setting going. Well, somebody else will take him. Anyway, you know, it used to be that the motto it's all about the fancy things of the game. And you know, he's best best. He can do this. But the best teams have ability. Yeah. No question. But the best teams of players with Caddick and actual mental strength that every tiny step on the field, regardless of whether it's Darby or whether you plan the team at the bottom of the league, the level of performance is there that we will cut it out. A mental. The scary part is is that they're still out there people that are majesty night apologist. And we'll we'll point to the fact while the first minutes against Barcelona. We're really good. We created a lot of chances. The first twenty minutes against society. We'll the gain doesn't last ten minutes doesn't last twenty minutes last ninety minutes. I know where the cores ninety minutes. Mantovani ninety has as looked to becoming coming up short against the best teams. So I I it was men against boys against my city. It was it was men against boys and against it was just embarrassing whichever way. You look at it. It's Wednesday night a manager who already hasn't even launch. She's in his players of stalked clear all them because every single good team played in the manager. He's the guy that held you to stand up. He was the very first guy and the ready only souljah has launched. It wasn't too. Pretty unto burrito Ivan. Was that? Just giving him the job is money. But yet the players are not he's not able to hold the place to of a standard. They have Julian practice, the most polarizing figure is still pull pallbearer, isn't it? I know, you know, hit. Well, you've watched him closely for club and country is he is he just not playing. Well, or is it a case of him? Not being in a very good team at the moment. I think it's a bit of both are so him after the game yesterday, and it was really angry and he didn't want to say merge. He said if I talked to merge, I'm going gonna say I regret so. It's a tough time for him. Once again, I'm going to law about him on the show. Okay. He can he can always do more. We can run more can put more effort in the is true. But he's also very dependent on the players around him. And for me the pass of the nights in that game. Last night was he's born left left-foot for linga in the first half. That was the best part of the game. Both teams reunited, however, if there's no movement ahead of him when he's on the ball if the Buddha's and get to him either. All the press who are alongside him. I know maybe to ease level it's harder for poor to express himself and to a good shift in and I don't want to make chooses for him because he was no good enough yesterday. It was good enough on Sunday. And he was certainly good enough against boss or not last week either. But he's also very dependent on the plaza around him the system around him as well. And at the moment, both of those things are no other at the right level either. That's the case for the defence pull you buying. It not really because he his best world class down and world class players show up at when you touch the ball you. There is a difference and too many times in which takes too many touches on the ball at slows down the play from nine to say unite and gets this process of the ball to easily much more. So than we have seen his best thing. I will say about that perhaps he doesn't benefit from it because of his style because of the way he cares himself. He kind of prances around the field. So that looks good when? You're playing well when the team is winning, and you have that sort of that sort of look about him of confidence on and so forth. But when you're getting destroyed when you're being taken to pieces when your team hasn't won, and you still prancing around, and is the way you carry yourself man for anybody who's looking for an excuse or recent two point polka. There's your reasons I do this guy. Is there prancing around? We need more than that. We need somebody to tackle we need somebody win Balsam. We don't see enough. We we we won't messy for pulp Alba. Would it make any difference dementia? Anything? There's only there's only so many players in the world then you can on on the team on their bike. Massey. Renaldo that was not struggling. I mean has has reached the stage where we expect them to do that because his game. But I don't think ever will be. No, do I think it ever was. I think both versions have poor poke by that people criticize. All the describe him obstinately. Correct. I don't think he's done enough. He's brought into Manchester. United to be leader. I don't think he's done enough in in that regard. But I think what we've seen is. He's not that type of player. He's a note standing tell him that. I think Greece's any team if I'm Real Madrid all by in Munich. I am buying poor Papa no question. I think it makes me about despite that recent foibles Manchester United still very much in the race for the full apps, the failings of others primarily responsible for that. And just ninety a high national Chelsea and Spurs. The road ahead though. Well, this is how you guys going to finish up shacking emphas- booze. Well ahead. You all do. Understandably. A little bit of various Stevie has mentioned United edging ahead of us. So so do you Ali. Ali g so does Juliet Shankar. The only one saying mentors unity is going to finish it fourth out of the out of those four. I'm confused. By the way, only because just so by the way from all eight engine them, right? Let's not get carried away. The Spurs are. Done. So that is really dancer the other place. Why did you go the way you'll go and check in making those making those picks? I think also lose a widow Lester, but then when the two and the big pivot for me was what happens between Chechen Manchester United ride. No, I see it as as a draw which benefits even even if the do lose and somehow they get their just ongoing difference. Of course, them them on Chechen, Saint points. It all depends on how much lose by and all sorts of conundrum once law wrong, by the way is still standing by us know Julian net, why why the optimism? I'm which out I think that would be a draw between United and shut the weekend and the arsenal can take advantage of that that they might lose against LeicesteR Brighton or Burnley. But it would we're not Lester. Julie. Six points all along the road there. How are they going to pick up these points away for the Emirates? After the game on the show said that they were getting right against what food wish they did in fairness and three points, even if events in the game played in their favor. I didn't think it could be about wards, and they were really bad. And I think that they would get it writes this weekend a Bill after the Evanston game in again. And again this weekend that's me being very optimistic, but the the never card to fully stat. Now, the PFA team of the year as members of the team voted on by the fellow professionals all the plans concert, they have oh and a couple of companies, of course, Manchester City livable provided the bulk of the team Nydia, limited fact, about the exception to that. But of course, when we do this teams like this get an answer who didn't make is as much as the stories who date with miss the Eden has odds. We make his exclusion. When you look at the best from certain positions in the primarily, sixteen goals thirteen. Assists alley can you make? I can make a very comfortable case that in has the best player in Premier Li. Yeah. And I can I can also make very comfortable case. Without an has our tells these nowhere near where they are right now in the competition to me, he just feels like in hazard should be in the scene. And I don't care who they take out. He should be part of this eleven and I have no idea how both bug gets into this. Because honestly, we're in in terms of being among the best in this league. He was among the best in this league for a couple of months, right? When he got wing this carry before and after Noce, what would you have instead of pope? I mean, it has to be someone in that position. Isn't it? Who would you put the Chris and Eric's? Yep. Yeah. I have no problem. Putting Christian Erickson, I honestly, it's like we're finding reasons to plug by to put pug, Brian. I Chris over the course of the year. It's not the team of the two months is team of the year. Christian Eric's has been far more consistent than the public thing is only because of when the vote and hop right here. And I'm going I don't know exactly is at the end of February February. On February March. Was actually in the mon- United team. And he was the style Amman for them. Incredible traits that they have ones. Yeah. That's why he's made it should it be. I'm -solutely. No. I don't think it was thinking should who would have an stats. Being should be in this eleven. No. Is there a place because there's no place. I mean. No. If he's got a few so make it into Liverpool out in the semi finals of Champions League on the possibility of going to win the league for the first time in twenty years, right? And one huge omit. You reason is a guy called money. And you telling me that Ha's out should be in before Mani. You know, this is not this is not who of the eleven based pres-, right? Put a team together here. Yeah. So absolutely should. Now, we care about the tactical approach of the team of the year on what what? Why did you gotta play up front who want one area? Let's go. Well, okay. You're just desperate to get rid of. Against these point. No what why not just make the best logical points. But let's make the point that Eaton has. It's not in your essays testing. Yes. Okay. Could would you take in Hassert right now and your team? Yes. But but. Linked to you. You're putting in has out in there. You have to leave out either. Either him stealing or Saudi money. I don't leave out either. Pete Lau in Renaldo was because because. Rounded won the Champions League. So that has commended right Chelsea chance. Unwanted Moby Europe league a second tournament they mate that into struggle the fall in the Premier League. So why would you have a guy him over money? Who's going to take a team, however, power much or however little Chelsea accomplish this this year, they were not even come close to accomplish in that without an has on the. The other thing the other thing that I would say is if in has had been voted on this team, whether for sterling or do you take has are off to put manure sterling onto this team stealing with one of those losing it has to be sterling up -solutely mine. I don't know something chose me that they'll be more questions about this particular topic apps. I'll extra time to answer your question every day off to the show, you can see on YouTube channel, lots of lovely. Three games ago city, appoint a hedge livable teams with what looked to be on paper three very winnable games. The automakers saying it's now free to one on that yoga Klusman landed the title never over till overstated. But how much has been extinguished? I'm going on a flicker, I'm running a just a just a little. I g. See with the the dish appointments coming off a city. You know? I don't think Liverpool are going to drop point. Don't I just don't see where city drop any point? Don't everybody keeps throwing less. That's what I would for. That's FM. I'm Manchester City. And I knew that any team in the Premier League of decided Tacoma all attack. I'm like that you'd beauty because they say for if you just want to play a game of football. Yeah. Mono mono, no chance against that. We don't have that. We don't have to wait long for Liverpool's next game. They inaction against Huddersfield Friday nights shit. I. We will have reaction. So. Now, the league standings look this Real Madrid where an action game actually yet. They local Dhabi for them against taffy. Finished goalless, Tampa actually moving up into the Champions League spot row Madrid still chase trailing Athletico Madrid six points nine points behind boss Lona, and it's congratulations at Landau ousted fear and Tina and the COPA tally semi final. They have set up a date on may the fifteenth Cobra Talia final Atalanta against Latino. No European football this week. How does that affect shank? His love secret formula. It's been a tough week. It has three. All right. Let me bullet. Let me I'm getting fear in peercy. I let it go purchase. Also awesome here. But then all the second share of the I read top ticky drew this weekend. Turkey put to his always buying on imports. League results. But yeah, he's three Newcomb with no Champions League. Yeah. It's inconsistent at the very least. Just threw out have no chapters league. Sangha does your know what pollution Bush's still jumping? We will return tomorrow. We'll have to look back home as well. Hey, we go extra time you'll questions onto these guys. Julie wrong is also gold. He'll be getting stuck into some of the cowboy once did Stevie the mantis ninety you will wearing yesterday. It'd be a big one. I could assure you. I've never heard much. Are you? Oh, yeah. Draw the lane of putting the show too. How did he even TV has limits of parody take from that? Chris. How did it actually feel rooting for the even even just to do well to be really did Ma much because usually willing only one? So he went roots. It was kind of a Hobo. Yeah. But it was an empty route faint dream posibly get out. I think. And then you go. Well, that's so United in the United defeat AJ. Asking question was was Josie Muneo right about oil long about what was he right about Manchester? United. Particularly good all the people that now come out and say, well, see, this is the marine brigade. This apologised. Tell you what he was right about gone. Well, see later out of my say United because he was not getting the best out of this players, and that's job number one for any manager, regardless of who you are and certainly guy with the experience and the background, and and the resume that just putting has he he knows better. And at the end he had lost everything that had to do with indicate with this place and getting the best place to answer this question. Yes. Tourism rena. Would was right. This is not a good team to trouble is yours renews manager for two years yet. He had five window and spent quite a lot of money in attempting to. Dress out, but some of the two causing so see that's the question. We we don't late only answer to what is that. Well, because he always blamed. Whoever Edward will basically he was getting them the wrong. Is that true? I find it very difficult to find it very difficult to believe the. Some Edward world is going to come to Josie Marino and say, right. Here's the guy here mentioned speaking and also faint out to believe that if he comes and says, we can get this guy. And he says I don't want. Why angles and gets them to love to new. Of how walks in Manchester. United says that maybe it's one thing because he's a young manager not that much of a reputation coming into the game who's really big job. But Susan renew has seen it and done on. I find it really hard to believe that players are being signed without his approval, you do if you have his record and reputation that renewal did come into this job. You don't come there and just accept anything that would has to you blame the Bouba. Everybody. Everybody but himself Julian another thing Marino say was all the things he's accomplished as managing getting the two second place last year was one of the best leagues evidence. So we laughed and scoffed at that time, but actually was he right? The certainly achieved season for sure to them to second place. I'm not sure if it was purely just down to Marino's tactical genius on just a bit of luck, maybe of all the factors as well. Yeah. It was then they are cheap. I would agree with the boys. I think the marine branch of time though to this quad and made this much better any fails. And to ancestors question there is no director footballers Poteen director, which is a big problem would know nothing about football. So e certainly not the one deciding who the signing. So, of course, was Marino had a lot to say about which players coming in and going out. I love the players are their signed under Marino was down to Marino. I. Sorry, marine, your finding that agreeing to sign them more than would anyone incredible end to renew blaming the ball for not getting them to play video Josie TV's. So you went and ask doing I question if you want to your question to be addressed in extra time you have to put it on Twitter. Extra times why keep it to the biggest? All right. Well, let's go to wasting our time addresses question to all the experts in the NFC where those come to. Come to say. Gunness OSHA create some sort of Recco by being the interim the permanent and the X manage it in the same season for all glow. Oh, no go to suck all between on the seas member incident. Seems inconceivable. It would suck them. For saudis. Larry this season will. Yeah. That's that's a good one. That's true. How? Think unless you know, what it's like things don't expect tall only not mind Cheshire night. Season thing. The only reason is because he may just see enough of this. It's going to be given a transfer window in a preseason. Isn't it got to? I know that's not the he he may. Extra time actually, come to the conclusion that I think that maybe this job bright Julianne poll puck. Now you like talking about him Matt Sammy wants no shirt grail Madrid pay more than sixty to seventy million per Popper says he's a Madrid fan. I'm praying. We use Iskoe in midfield and forget about how much is the French midfielder really was. That's the big question. Be. Negotiations. If remedied wants to put a bit in with with much to United United will at least want to get the money by that in phone. Let's say around hundred million euros almost three years ago, and at least damage money back and probably be more as well. So I think you'd be looking around one hundred fifteen million euros, Mark, maybe a little bit less. Maybe. What's your sense gills? Is it going to happen? Madrid gonna get him stock extra time. I think there's a big chance. I think there's a big probability. He might leave this summer to go to Madrid. Yes. All right. Good locally. How many who spoke to pump by yesterday member? Tulin the media shoes. Rinse me, buddies, always safer Las how many shepherds pies, we'll Stevie treat himself. The city points against Leicestershire. Are we gonna get with less city? That's not dependent upon whether. Drums points consumption shepherds buys gonna come regardless. Yeah. Where? Connecticut. Intake. We'll Moghul because a lot of the might be something else. That goes along with this. Liquid fall. This is mile. Big yet today. Yeah. Helping because you cloak over the short because she was in Scotland. But my night up by the small cokes everywhere. She said to me before. Shrinkage. Residents night right to normally do to show go home. I'll have a couple of L Madonna stupidly say. Soon as come by. The big step there. Keep you warm. He says I have a couple of beers. That's uptick license. Has this just with the number Titian? Busy. How? Just a couple of big. Livable. Gave you to react to tomorrow. So you want to mood very smooth there. Early night. He'd be the bars. Not only will. Fifty joy that set the show tomorrow.

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Caught Offside: the Festive Period

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Caught Offside: the Festive Period

"Caught offside with every gumming and JJ Davani. Oh yes caught offside from the upper west side of Manhattan Andrew Gulling end from the beautiful island in the Atlantic Ocean that we know is the Republic of Ireland Harland. Jj Danny what's up brother Andrew. How are you our things? I'm well I'm well hope. This festive period has been as stress-free for you as it has been for your club. Yeah absolutely Andrew. It's been it's been great here being home with the family with Christening yesterday. But I kind of want to get right into this because you've dragged me away over wolves versus Liverpool and We've had some more VERSI where I'll be honest with you. Liverpool go aloft and then a perfectly legitimate goal by Netto for for wolves has been ruled out right before halftime for again this inexplicable inexplicable microbial maybe non existent off site. That has absolutely blighted this the entire match this Christmas period of football in England. And I don't want this to dominate the whole conversation. Of course you don't it's going to be what it should be one one at halftime. It is not Liverpool lead and that to me is totally unfair. The reaction of new numerous Curto Santos assistant on the sideline was unbelievable. If you think X.. Screaming to the heavens was bad this is on a different level. Yep also so a MAC daddy the hero of the win against Manchester City for wolves. He's on the bench his cousin Who got tickets through Matt is in the stands at Anfield? He's a Liverpool Fan but he's in the away end having to keep his mouth shut amongst the wolves find and that's a very interesting family dynamic real quick back to the as you put a DVR traversee. I believe that you have now come full circle. You've come all the way back around and in a weird backwards way. You are now actively rooting for these moments to occur. And like you feel like you've won every time there's another armpit offside because you can feel the hate towards Var emanating from across the globe with each one of these decisions and so I now believe that in a in a perverse way you are actually like you high five yourself. Every time one of these things happens you love it. No not really I to be honest with you Andrew. It's not me everybody here. It's the constant harping bring about VR. How and in particular? I think people have made their peace certainly with the reviews for incidents like You know checking penalties for example hurricane and skipping around on being felled by the Norwich defender yesterday people have made their peace with with things like that but armpit vars. I mean look at it. We've had pook legitimate goal. Ruled out last night. We had Wilfried Zaha yesterday. That's twice that's two major incidents in one-match day we have this note tonight wolves. We have the encroachment issue that came up Wolves Man City. Look it's it's not working. Whatever whatever you think of what this what this fire is is not working right now and honestly I think the only way to solve the off side aid is the Gary Lineker suggestion where you don't allow the guys at Stockley pack to hold up the game for several minutes trying to draw lines and get it right? It has to apply the logic of well. Is this clear and obvious. Because if you're looking at four four or five times and you still don't don't know it's not clear and obvious you shouldn't be ruling it out. I think that's the only way to go and that's me expecting that virus here to stay right. It's a compromise. I think we all. Ah We all have to make otherwise. We're in serious father. The the problem is not that Var works. It said it actually works too. Well that's essentially really. What is happening when you get these armpit decisions and so I think yes? I agree with you a fair compromise. Because you've always been Anti. I've always been pro. A fair. Compromise is essentially essentially. They get what would you say. Thirty seconds forty five seconds. Maybe even one minute to look at it no lines and if you can't tell that amount of time then it simply is what it was on the field and I think all sides would be comfortable with that being the way that it is but can I be completely honest with you. This is like for me to come in here drive an hour each way on a Sunday Sunday. The nerve of you at the start of this to say that I dragged you here. You're just sitting at home. You walk ten feet to a computer. You still the game on in front of you. I I've driven all over the place today to get here. You drag me here you animal but and then to drag me here and start the podcast by forcing me to talk about Var which is probably of this year my least favorite thing to actually talk about because I've grown so tired of your of your moaning and whining and complaining. Can we talk about something else. Yes absolutely and there's some good games to have talked about over your well. I WANNA I WANNA start. I want to start at the top of the table. I know Liverpool is playing as we speak so hopefully some of what we're saying is dated by the time people listen to this but the fact remains e- I'm assuming they will have beaten wolves Because they beat everyone even if they haven't the story remains what it is and that is Liverpool are running away away have been running away with this league. The League is over. There is no more drama at the top of the table. I understand why you will lie to our listeners here today in this festive holiday holiday season. You will lie blatantly to everyone and say it's not over till it's over. I'm still nervous so on and so forth but it's done any reasonably minded person can can agree with that statement so now I think the only the only direction that there is to go now with Liverpool is to start the conversation as to whether or not we are witnessing. Jj the greatest team in the history of the Premier League. I mean that's not the way to take this conversation. That's where we're at where that's where a lot. A lot of people feel. Were at right now. A good point was made to me last night. My cousin we were having dinner after the Christening and He said look. Nothing's one in December embar. He said to me. You know you got to kind of feel great about this. And you probably feel it's over. And I said well you know Newcastle Newcastle Blue. At in February from a twelve point lead which is which much later in the season and with a similar lead of points and he said Yeah but they had a brilliant Manchester United team. Jessica who's chasing whom now so I guess that's that's the point that puts me Under even more pressure to to make tired of statements about what's Goo- who's going to lift the trophy in May I would say this watching them in that first half and that second half in fact throughout the entire ninety minutes. It's at Filbert Street. Yes I refuse to call it. The King Power. It's probably nowhere near Field Filbert Street. But anyway I digress into proper football territory there no. I'm watching Liverpool was was other-worldly the performance. The other night was such a comprehensive battering of I. You know I suppose it rival are I mean they left Leicester smoldering it was. It was a brilliant brilliant performance on on watching Trent Alexander Arnold watching a Robertson for me knows performance Nabi cage as well look it. They're just so enjoyable to watch right now. The way they play the the intensity at which they played there was a moment in the first half Andrew. Where look there's a a lot of pace and not less thirteen and it was a moment where Liverpool were slightly caught out? And Trent Alexander Arnold makes this looping rune to cover for in round the back of his centrebacks and it's almost as if some kind of matrix ask special effect has been put over the lesser players. Were trying to slow down. And Trent Alexander Arnold is moving at regular tastes he just blithely glides around wins the ball and plays it up the field field it was a encapsulation interiors performance. And I'm going to run superlatives for the way Liverpool played did in the last In that last game yeah I mean look unfortunate thing with Liverpool. Is that when you're talking about them. There are there are very few neutrals neutrals when it comes to that club You kind of either love them or hate them. It just seems to be the the way that they're perceived just because of how big of a club they are. I would say if you are a neutral then. You must really be enjoying this. Because like honestly they are. They are a pleasure to watch. And we've talked about that endlessly really on this podcast every in every third of the field. They're like the best indefens- their midfield feels like. It's the strongest midfield attack. They're the most dangerous team in the league. Like I just We've said since day one. I continue to just like be unable able to find a weakness anywhere with them and like I keep wondering. Where's the ceiling for these fullbacks? Like every every time I feel like they've changed the position completely and it's it really has i. If you can find it within yourself to say it. It really has been a joy to watch which I think I think as well one of the annoying factors for those who who are not Liverpool fines and those who don't like the cult of klopp is that he's made clear is better. He's man players who you look at new thought. Well you know their time. Their time is either up. What Liverpool other times either opened another club? And he's come in and he's he's he's kind of elongated things and just when you see there's you know there's a problem at centre-back while no there isn't we we. We find a solution or someone to come in and figure that out and just when you think well that midfield is worn pace for being gone out of it now. It's got Henderson in it. Henderson seems to be able to his game and go back into that place. Where for being you know was defying solutions? Find ways to win. That's being that's being another annoying factor. Because everybody's looking for little glimmers of hope amongst you know glimmers of light. I guess that Liverpool might fall apart so far. They're not showing any of them and not adds to the frustration. Plus you touched on it there when you've got a vibrant worldwide fan base and you know the team is doing well. It feels as if the walls are closing in on you. Like there's there's nobody is if you're constantly hearing Liverpool angle and that creates the title that they've got which is the unbearable we are. We are on variable because because we are really really good right now and you're gonNA hear about it until may hopefully yeah. I'm sure it'll end in May. Yeah now I saw a tweet. Jj and I wasn't sure what to do with it. Part of me smiled when I read this because I thought Oh. We've now unlocked unlocked. The lock as to how we can get. Jj to hate the season. How can we continue to pestered him? Even though everything is coming up roses for him but I don't know if I'm going to go that way. I saw this tweet for Matt Jones at J. Football and he tweeted the fact Monterey and Flamengo gave Liverpool a better game than most teams in the Premier League. The season is probably the biggest indictment of how poor this league is. And you took the bait. You went right in on them the fact what was your tweet. The fact Waterford gave Liverpool a better game than flamingos. An indictment of Y Y Y cry cry cry like we've now like that Jones whether it was knowing or not he. He discovered the way that we can needle you in this. And that is kind of the method that I chose two years ago when Liverpool ended up losing in the Champions League final around Madrid and and that is to kind of belittle their accomplishment by talking about how poor the like the group of teams is around them. This can't be as good as it looks because because the teams that they're playing aren't as good Now I thought okay I could go all in on that and just make the rest of the season just like going at you over how none of this means anything because is the team's crap and there is some truth to that but in the end Like I I just can't find it within myself to say that because like our is. Tell us what we're seeing with. Liverpool is is as good as what their accomplishments have been like and I think the fact that they can lean on the past two European fan campaigns to kind of prop up What they're doing now in the in the league like I? I think that that means something. The fact that they've got to a Champions League final the fact that they want it the next year like I think that that can all solidify in your mind that no this isn't just about the fact that a lot of teams that are normally good in the premier league aren't right now Liverpool truly truly. Is this good and I believe they would be dominant in pretty much any league in the world. Yeah just going going back to that tweet. Andrew were so angry response. No the silliness about that tweet was First of all he ended with Hashtag. AFC which is like. I mean Kinda. Give away your color alerts on the euro bitter blue about these things. I you know a lot of liberal Everton fans are bitter a Lotta Everton. Funds are are very much surrounded and ensconced by their own new new excitement over a new manager coming Carolina Lottie and they're not really focusing on what Liverpool are doing but there are some who you know. The comment is silly because first of all it's it's total an annual centrism like the idea that the The Liverpool playing being you know Monterrey anthem angle. These these teams that you know are are clearly. You know they're just inferior you know. They are the champions the former former champions of Mexico the champions Brazil. But it's more that like was it. I tweeted this was the treble winning United Manchester United team. That drew with the Mexican champion's ca-catch up on got hammered by Vasko and the Word Club. An indictment of our snow and the rest of the League in the year two thousand like when when when the League when united were at their strongest coming off treble and when arson vendors are snow were a year or two years out for three years out from being the invincibles invincibles was united. Losing Games in the World Club Cup. Was it some kind of indictment of the premier league. Of course. It's not football doesn't work. I like that so the whole tweet was stupid to me. In that sense all took the bait and it was brilliant to just sit back and watch and laugh at how sensitive all of you are like like. Why can't you just ignore that you right now? I actually have in front of me. And I clicked on his tweet and all the replies just like an endless array of sensitive of Liverpool fans and in fairness to match Jones. He does say something that I actually do. Think is is a decent point. He says in response to another one of these tweets he says I don't. I think it's outrageous to say Liverpool or brilliant but the League is quite naff. Why can't both of those things be true? Oh Yeah Look Andrew. If you want to say that that's fine. That was the same criticism though. Was that less store in two thousand fifteen twenty six Ohio they won. That League Tottenham should've wanted here I mean Tottenham blue at that year it. It was the year when everybody else was in transition. I'm struggling white and Spurs win. Oh last year only one and because of that well okay but I'm pretty sure you could go back almost every season and say somebody. Somebody was in some period of either decline transition. I mean the leans across thirty eight games. And you. Can you take it for what it is. It's the bread and butter and it's the best test of domestic mastic team and how good they are across a sustained period. So you know I just think there was a bit of Cryer said in his tweet to was a bit of Y. Y Y you ask the question. Why do people respond? I mean Jesus Christ underwood's twitter something. Negative must be responded by something even more negative active. I I told you. I'm reading the twittering machine right now. Twitter on the way it set up is conditioned for these responses but we should move on. There's more football to talk doc about rather than twitter football so I did want to move on and I want to move onto the team. That Liverpool are playing today and that is wolves because I think that they took part in maybe the most enjoyable roybal match of the season thus far the other day unless you're a Manchester City fan when they overturned a two-goal deficit and defeated what was then ten man. Man City after Edison Went went off with a red card early in the match. They turn it around. They win three to an incredible atmosphere at the mall. New Really Really Fun game and I think even beyond calling it the match after the season I think it also contributed. Maybe I'm kind of like prisoner of the moment here when I say this but I think it might have also been my performance of the season so far in an individual game. Aim from what we saw from Adama try. I taught early was brilliant but I actually don't think that's his best performance in Jersey but without without him. Okay now what is couldn't degree then. What is his best performance in a wolf's Jersey off the top of my head? I can't remember what the game was but I've seen him play better. But that's not the point. You just want to disagree. There's no other game. You're not thinking anything. I actually am my point about the damage. Reorient the city game and how important he was and how good is performance was was if he wasn't doing it. They were surprisingly blunt for a team. That has the the players. The NIEUW is of this. World Matt Argies. You know the him and they were just struggling up until a certain point in that game to capitalize is on the on the misfortune of Manchester City. I mean they were city. Were two-nil up with into the second half with being down to ten men goalkeeper off and it was interesting. There's a moment in. I think it was the first half where trae Ori gets the bowl centrally. I think it's a pass or maybe it's a bad touch by him but whatever he's running onto a ball and he gets a shot it off but he's off balance and the commentator said he should have just kept going and I totally agreed because autumn Mendy had a three or four yards starts artem tours that ball but Traori Soak quickey added up. And I'm like this is this is pretty much the only way wolves are going to get back into this camp and if you look at the goal Andrew it's a turnover city. Have the ball the first school in the Comeback City have the ball. It's turned over and a concentrate. Ori And he just gets out of his feet and bribes law shot Platt Past Claudio Bravo. And that's it. The game turns on its head now what had happened just a few minutes. Prior to that is the thing that is the turning point for me and a load wolves to build the momentum. We're by the end. They were totally in control of the game and they found their winner in. My darty are really quite brilliant gold in itself but the thing was taking off Kevin Brainer at that moment in time was clearly pep in my mind saying we can close this out. I'm going to go get in. We're going to close this game. We can't lose this game out without Dubois. Actually wasn't the case. They lost complete clearly control of any semblance of go forward to use a robey for his go forward they had no chance of launching attacks they were completely overrun in the midfield. From that moment on and tech was the author of this this downfall. I mean I leaving Fernandina in there are excuse me Debris in there. When I know I don't have for an genial to go into the middle of the par? No I'm not going again. He wasn't to blame him for this coming off the bench in the same fashion as he was culpable in the Liverpool game. where I thought he was absolutely atrocious? But when I see that substitution or even when I see city starting against good opposition not average opposition but good opposition. We're going to get in the teen. I mean it's just not as good as the preferred partnerships they have an really not having for genial in the middle of the park for crusade part of the game having him play at centre-back was disastrous. No WanNa talk to you about something else. Can I respond to all that because I I want to weigh in on that too. Do I think you're actually one hundred percent right in saying that because the interesting thing to me when you're talking about Manchester City or you're really you're talking about anybody. I think the key who was it that I saw just talking about this Josie Marino was talking about spurs and he was saying that. What's most important in this sport is to be able to hide your team's fragilities? Where are you most vulnerable and hide that you know? And so he says with Tottenham. He still in the process of trying to figure out how to do that with Manchester City. We pretty much know what what it is. There's no more secrets. They are fragile indefens- now I know when you're down to ten men things change And especially when you're up you know two goals or even so one goal all at that point like I. I understand that there's part of you. That just wants to see the game out. But we know that Manchester City's fragility is in defense when you take off to Bryner after Sergio Aguayo Oh has already been taken off early in the game. Like you're now shifting the entire onus to your team's defense like you're GonNa make this game about doing doing what you do worst whereas if you leave to Brenna on you can continue to play at least a semblance of your game you at least have that threat out there that Kevin Debris can produce some kind of moment almond that keeps wolves defense honest when you take him off. Wolves were allowed to just go full bore attack and that Manchester City defense ten men especially is Never GonNa hold up to that. That is exactly what happened now. We should talk about directness evolves and the fact that they wouldn't give in this game. I'll skip quickly to the third goal because they do want to make mention dougherty was pretty much out of the game for most of the game because when Troy Oray plays on that side as an attacker and he started there. Dr D. is no become less of the attacking force that we saw last season. However city were so stretched at the end? DARTY could play a one two with him in this and pulled out just a brilliant finish. We'll get to talk with my party. I'm hoping sometime in the New Year but he is a great story in perseverance and persistence in football. But let me go back as well to being authors of their downfall at two two with our excuse me a two one. What city defending for our lives Andrew? What is Benjamin Mendy doing? We have to we have to talk about this. Because I've been thinking about this since it happened and Benjamin Jamin Mendy to me has is now the human cancelation of an element of the sport. That I've been thinking more and more about because I watched that and I was just thinking like if you're one of his teammates who has been just like working his ass off throughout the course of this game you've been down ten men for eight minutes eighty plus minutes like and then that that happens after all of your hard work. What even say to the guy in the locker room afterwards I mean look he? He tweeted about it and he clearly felt awful. that it happened happened but like I keep thinking in this sport. Jj that like the amount of goals that are scored not because a team does something good but because a team does something bad and dumb. I really think it's like seventy five percent of all goals scored or because somebody did something something dumb like I now at a point in an soccer where I feel like if you're a team that can just like not commit a an unusual unusual number of unforced errors like everyone else is doing. Then you'll win the league like just don't be dumb this like Kansas in the back like just you're trying to see this out down a man for eighty minutes just smash the ball in midfield. What are you thinking like there is? So much I'm watching it with Tottenham against Chelsea like even though Chelsea dominated that game and certainly should have one think about the way those goals were scored stupid from surgery even stupider from Gazzaniga like because are the things that that decide titles they decide top four. They decide relegation. Just don't be stupid. Don't be the author like you said of your own downfall. It's how so many goals are scored can't get over it and the Mendi moment it just like it just crystallized my mind that just way. Too many goals or score because of stupidity and recklessness now what was funny about it was I was looking at the tweet. After way after the game one of the tweets from the Blue Moon. podcast guys one of them said why was he shielding the ball there. If the ball goes out goes out a corner. Yeah what are you doing so so the problem for many here is that you see so much in the media particularly when he was coming back from the injury about him you know suddenly on the drop of the hat ending up in Paris two days before a game. When doesn't know where it is our is telling me shouldn't be traveling two days before a game in the UK and that confirms that maybe he is not as clued in our as focused a player as we need to have on the field and that is bad? The other thing is I wanNA address. This Man City fans are quite right to be upset and on sit well. A Data Monterey Oray has barged him in the back to get the ball. Now this is one of these grey areas in the sport which which I think needs addressing you will notice that if for example a domitory had urged him in the back while he was dribbling fling with the ball in that stay upright stance. That will be a free kick most places on the field however the minute. The referee thinks you're shielding moving the ball and you'll notice this when a team is trying to play out the clock in the corner. Have you seen the goal is approach to tackling absolutely. Yes us so he gets. He does not get that referees. For whatever reason when you go into anything that looks like a shielding are an obstructing putting the opponent getting the ball stands rightly or wrongly. Rules are not. You aren't getting that call and so I have little sympathy in this scenario offer mendy. He's played the game to to think that he's GonNa get that by the way again. triumvirate with the wonderful heads-up play to not make I think it was genial and get the ball through to him and as to pokes past Bible for all the things we say about the mistakes and you're quite right about about mistakes steaks and soccer in general manager. We should give plenty of props the wolves because to come back like that. That was that was pretty special. Of course. Of course the one thing that I want to say about what you're talking about with the Benjamin Mendy and the reason for that foul not being given I mean you're right partially it is because he's made the decision to to shield the ball the way they did but it also saw Henry Bushnell tweet right after the game that Mendis honesty was essentially punished. Like if he goes down there like ninety five percent of other players do. I don't know man I. I really think that the chances of that thou- being given is almost one hundred percent if if he if he's accidentally knocked to the ground allowed himself to just go down the way everyone else does. I really think it's given as a foul well Andrew. I agree with you. I agree with old bushy boy that that is actually true. Because like I said I'll go back to my example in the corner flag. When if I'm running down the clock and go to Fort Kearney flag what my back to the defender and I put my foot on the ball the free will not be given no matter? How much battered until Wayne until I fall over? And and that's what happened there but I mean a victim of his own. Honesty is to paint mendy into some kind of a matter. Figure when mocked awesome for the room it was I I watched it. I said that was her Roic by Benjamin Mendy the one thing that I wanted to mention. It seems like every manager that has had him. I knew that this was coming but they couldn't quite harness it. Just look at the guy. He's different he's just different than every other guy out there his speed his size he it looks more like a running back then he does anything on a soccer field Like this guy was at Barcelona Villa Mill Middlesborough and now finally at Wolves. It seems like He. He starting to recognize this potential. That he's had with him. He's only twenty three years old and I know you said he's had better performances for wolves. I'll wait for you to come up with what that is but I'll just leave leave you with this about his performance. Remember the fantasy league that used to be with us until you decided you were better than everyone and couldn't take part in such silliness. Well that League still exists. And he's actually actually on my team and put up forty one fantasy points in this game which usually is a number reserved to guys who score like three score a hat trick or four goals or something like that. He had only one goal and still contributed that performance. And I don't WANNA put too much into stats but when when a guy does that puts up that many fantasy points in a game re scored one goal. It's a sign you. You still have to watch the game to know but it is at least a sign that he's putting up that number of points because he is involved in every single thing that is happening and to have watched that game aim. You knew that to be true. He was all over the place. His name was constantly being called out that. Play the two hundred angle. He was noon nominal you. I don't need to prove that. Nuno Espirito Santo see something so important in damage priority. He has literally changed changed his winning formula for last season to accommodate him more on the side because he gives them something that no other player in the field are arguably known nor the players in the premier the League Code give you. What's interesting about what you said? Everybody's had faith in that they can get something out of them but apparently he was not easy to coach again. Maybe his game understanding has taken time to develop into growth. There's a great story about which will leave you all much more warm feeling about about pugilists because I know he wouldn't exactly be a huge fan for our listeners. He's not easy seen as a PF. And and a bit of a dinosaur. And I think that's probably unfair considering track record but Polis Adamant Middlesborough and that's why I found it weird why why is championship. Middlesboro Adama trae Oreo ending about wolves. Now like what what. Why is this transfer happened when it happened last season because I was very you know I wasn't sure about him at all but apparently pubis used to play him when he would start him are pouring on the sub he we used to bring him on on the wing? You were Pumas. Had His dugout soap. UNIS would come to the end of the technical area and coach him through the Games you would. You could hear him shouting being calling Adama Adama do this Dhamma go there. Drop off to try and help womb through games not get frustrated. I'm work on his game. Awareness awareness on his positional awareness. I guess that's pretty interesting. I heard of that happening before. But it makes total sense with this guy and by the way we get we sometimes fall into the I d you know and certainly it's going to be said about him a lot because he is actually. There's a stereotype about black players. Which is oh he's pacy he's he's Atlantic he strung well is actually all of those things and he is built like a running back or is built like a rugby league player rather than a footballer but his quick feet feet and his ability to get a shot off mix him a skillful technician as well? So yeah look a great game and I'm not again. I wasn't being and smart. There's some game and it may not have even been in a Wolves Jersey. It could have been in one of the aforementioned clubs that you mentioned that he's played for where I saw many blew my socks off. But yeah he was he was he wasn't it wasn't just that he was phenomenal. The other night it was that wolves getting back into that game. He was their only hope of doing wing it and he came up big yeah. I'm super excited to see the direction that his career goes for sure because he is still so young and the potential is is so clearly there for everyone to see. I'll tell you what let's take a very a quick break when we come back. There's a few other things that I wanNA mention. I know you have a mailbag Still a lot to get you. Don't go anywhere. Inflatable noodle. Man is constant undulated enjoying entices people to look me look at me. He's stylist and brainless a literal head. Curiously however the inflatable Moolman when hearing the GEICO not only saves people money has an award winning hand. That makes it easy to Manitoba Policy. He knows you should switch. Because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer Rainha dos can inflatable noodle man cassidy. They are unpredictable creatures. Let's say indicate the flag stay downtown retain rules data so the goal was disallowed of side Spurs. We'll have to go again. Fifty eight pints no originally I to allow they review this for off side. Now go outside. What is your problem? We started the first part of the podcast talking about the armpit offsides. So you of course then forced me to start the second part of the podcast with it as well. You're obsessed you're obsessed Andrew everything must be in. Its right place. Video had diary thing must be in. Its right place okay. Computer Fitter happier more productive not drinking too much regularly wreck exercising at the gym seven days a week. This is the distortion future. The machines are winning. You're welcome you're and you're rooting for. You are quietly in the background rooting for it. Because you'd love it it's also an excuse Andrew to play radiohead. Which is why will use that? We can just do that. You know we don't. We don't have to accompany it with with our discussion but at any rate a couple of other things that I want to talk about before we get to your mailbag first and foremost and I don't have the tweet in front of me. But I just want to make this clear. Now as we get into a little bit of Tottenham discussion from the interesting thing this interesting week and a half that they have had I got a tweet. From someone. Following the Tottenham Chelsea game like I said I don't have it here and I wish that I did and it was almost a subtle implication that because Tottenham were involved I wasn't going to bring up. What happened with Antonio Ruediger And basically challenged saying that. This better be your red card while we are not doing red cards man of the match on this episode but that will not stop me from talking about that incident and I obviously will not hide from it and I would say that anybody who thinks that on that guy who would have swept that under the rug because it involve off my club. Maybe this is the wrong podcast for you. Maybe on not the person that you should be listening to. If you think that I'm actually capable of doing something like that. I would like to think. Most people woo hoo listen to this show. Long enough know that we're not about that and that we can clearly recognize when something is bigger than the sport and race relations in soccer. Absolutely one hundred percent falls falls into that category. I feel like we discuss it enough. Where hopefully most people knew that? But I guess some people need to be reminded. Still Yeah I'm a Tottenham Fan and that was completely absolutely and utterly disgusting and whatever punishment the Premier League or the FAA or whoever wants to levy against them for fine fine go ahead do it all four whatever it takes to get this stuff out of the game ban. The Guy do whatever you have to do Because I hate that it happened at this club because it is a club that I love. I feel feel awful. For players of color on Tottenham that now know that there are fans off say fans of fan in the stands that feels that way Howard like. How is that supposed to make Benfield? Danny rose. WHO's been so vocal on things like this and who's been vocal on his battles with depression and how this game can not be fun at times because of people like this in the crowd look like like those players are affected too? Those are the guys that I thought you were supporting. But no people like that. Whoever it is that did that and made aide the monkey gestures towards Ruediger like these are not people fit to be in stadiums for games? And they're certainly not people that I believe are fit to support this. This club So I was disgusted by it And like I said whatever the punishment is I accept and hopefully only people understand that like this. Just not a thing to me that this isn't really about soccer. This is a thing that's really more than that. Yeah Look Andrew Eat. Anybody who's listened to the PODCAST. I need to say this but we confront these issues head on. It doesn't matter if it's Liverpool and our spurs fine on the incident itself you know I've kind of gone back and forth. We've had John Barnes on the podcast. Who kind of an adult wish to misrepresent? What what he says but he talks about the societal issue of racism? And how how can you expect football to to To to not have that element in it when it's rampant in society and some points as Gary Neville said we see a sticking that's rearing its ugly ugly head amongst those elected to lead in England and in parliament But I do think on moving back towards the fact that football needs to police itself much much better. Michael Kelly on twitter made the point. That fines are going to have to make awkward and possibly tough decisions when they hear racism in the stands are or a close to them they are going to have to either alert. The nearest policeman in the ground are preferably Stewart. First of all look Tottenham are not without Oh previous sin in this regard. It's a decade sense. Four players were given a excuse me for supporters were given football banning orders for A homophobic abuse of Sol Campbell at Fratton Park in a game vs Portsmouth. So how that was dealt with at the time was There was A. TV footage are pictures of sixteen fans were identified and four were identified by police as been involved in this chatting and that's how the banning orders were handed down. No do I like the idea of the police. Taking pictures within the stadium and trying to track people down no but if football itself can make a concerted effort between the supporters in the stand leading stewards knoll. About what they're hearing and TV cameras in the stands identifying those who are doing this this disgusting behavior then. Maybe that's the solution because you know it's a decade since that happened and clearly taught them an older clubs. Have have not been proactive enough in. I guess policing what goes on in their own stadia look. I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you get into people's minds and change the way that they feel he'll In moments like that like the thing is you can be mad as a Tottenham Fan at Ruediger if you thought that he kind of like suckered the ref into into awarding a red card there against Sun maybe unjustly finally part of being a fan is loving your players getting mad at opposing players. But I just don't understand why people people have to go to that place like just be really like why ticket there I don't understand it Andrew but And the fact that they reached so quickly so quickly to go to that place is the question that needs to be answered which suggests that it's in the front of their mind and at the tip of their tongue already. If if like you say they go to that place they go too quickly. They're they're already. He's somewhere in their mind. That's the only thing I can deduce and that is particularly side. Yeah I hate it. And it's it's why like I said to you. After the Tottenham Everton in game earlier this season that I don't know if there was going to be a tottenham game even though that ended in a draw I don't know if there was going to be a tottenham game that was just more disappointing and like left me feeling emptier this season than that one did because that had the the horrible injury And it was just a dull game. But the the Tottenham Chelsea one not even because of the result although obviously that didn't in help because you had that kind of hanging over the match and it was just the way I felt for the rest of the day the following day after that game. It's just like you know you kind of feel ashamed of your club. And that's you know that's not really what sport is about but like we said some things are bigger than sport and this is one of those things. I do want to talk a little bit about them. I don't have very much. This has been kind of a weird week for them in terms of results You know sometimes they they look absolutely putrid other times. They play in a way where you think. Why can't they just do this? All the time But that's kind of what they are all right now and by that. I mean we don't know what they are right now every time they set foot on the field. You don't know what you're getting and people are trying to use that as some sort of indictment against Marino that's nonsense that's complete nonsense. He hasn't had nearly enough time to put some kind of stamp on this team their performances of under Patino for the last year have been weird and inconsistent inconsistent. So like that's not going to change. I know that was that bounce. That spurs got like most teams do from a new manager and they're into the knockout stage of the Champions League in their backing up four conversation conversation but like nothing is solved here. Nothing has been fixed so like this is how the rest of the season is GonNa go and you just have to hope that maybe part. They're a little bit lucky. Maybe at some point they do find it and are able to get into the top four but like this is this is just what this season is going to be the and the weird thing to me. Jj is that you know. Look in attack. Like I said there's moments where they're brilliant but the strange thing is like if we talk about the stamp of Marino team mm-hmm. It's defense defense offense defense. Yeah this team gives up goals. Like I've never seen so no. He has not had a chance yet to put his hallmark mark on this club. And that's that's GONNA take time. I think the war either Andrew. And it's again. It's GonNa take time to see whether this is indeed. The case bought. What at Manchester United? The indictment of Marino was well. You know what you what you get with Marino you get sometimes turgid hired hard to watch football but the defense is going and you growing wins. Now that's not happening at Spurs in the sense that they're still leaking goals holds so if Marino still can't do it if Marino can't do the things that you bring him in to do then really what's the point in having them here you might as well take the pain with a more progressive passive manager. That's GonNa move you forward. I know what you're going to say that well you know you got to. You're GONNA shake it would tend to agree with that what I've learned. I think what's important from the last few games watching this Watching this Tottenham side play in particular the winning goal against Brighton in in which was exactly what I said. A PRETTY TURGID game and in terms of the performance an almost swaying. The game came towards a three two. Win for Spurs although large but excellently Christian Erickson is so vital to the cohesive nature of this attack and his ability to unlock guys like daily on Hurricane. I mean I wonder we'll Christian Erickson and his agent look at the landscape escape in front of them see the over chores that are being made at Barcelona again to try and get them are in and see that. Maybe there's no ru to use a festive phrase. There'd be no room at Dean there look at perhaps Real Madrid. Maybe there's no room at the end and Real Madrid and after that it would take it would take players to leave you vent his. I'm thinking of all the top clubs now matches united maybe lack in from. What I'm saying is may name in Christian Erickson surveys? The landscape of European football in January are are maybe later in the summer dependent on what happens. And he decides that Tottenham is the place as for him to cement legacy. Maybe Google forward as a player. I maybe that the grass isn't greener on the other side. Certainly if I'm a spurs director director or if I'm Daniel Levy are Josie Marino. I want to keep him because when he's in his right mind set on what what he's starting regularly for. Spurs are at least making regular appearances for them. He is. He's important team. Yeah yes he's he is integral and he's been one of their best players for this era. There's no question about that. Look everything you're saying. Maybe there's truth to it in my mind. He's gone like it's over and we're just kind of playing out the string here and I can only saved from here on out if they're serious about getting into the top four like I don't know they can question where his mind frame is at. But when he comes on and he plays he's he's still playing to the level that we expect Christian Eric's place so I I don't think he elevates the team elevates all all the facets acids around him and he is their bright spark and I actually think I fear for what Spurs look like without well. What I'm saying is start him again? Like fine so maybe you think he's going to leave then so be it and like squeezed juice. You can out of these remaining days where he's a player in your team to at least use him and help yourself get into a better spot to once again. Be Playing Champions League football next season like now to me is not really the time to be making some kind of grand your point. Well if his mind's not here and he wants to be elsewhere then we're just not gonNA plan you know what when he's out there playing he's still Christian Erickson and he's proven that so just just play him just prior would be. I would worry Andrew that the methods of Marino are not of the juice squeezing type. I'm afraid that maybe the juice will not be schools goals in fear that they may remain within him as he simmers on the sideline put. We shall see. Yeah we certainly shall. Let's see moving on Chelsea arsenal played earlier. Today it's been a very I don't know Chelsea are quickly for me becoming my most confusing team in the league. Like we've talked about you know in terms of upper echelon clubs we know what Liverpool are we we now I feel. I had a good sense of what Manchester City are fit. We get a sense. Now of what Lester are Chelsea Chelsea is the one where they'll go a month where I think. Wow this team is outstanding. And then they'll go the SORTA stretch their in right now where I think like what exactly we are. We watching here now. They do come back today and beat Arsenal in Arsenal at the Emirates to one they get two late goals eighty third and and eighty seven. Th Minute winner from Tammy Abraham and they come back and they win that game which my God. I mean how badly they need that after taking to no loss against Southampton Yeah Look. I watched the whole of this. To Chelsea. Game and it was the Stamford Bridge Blues. Yet again they've got just a pretty horrific record at home woman. They need to figure out how they can be better. If they're really gonNA push on on the Frank Lampard. Today I was at dinner so I watched the Grainger's in the morning are the the The twelve thirty kickoff and I didn't get to see Arsenal and Chelsea but from what I heard. The performance in the second half was much much better from franken parts team. There's a a couple of things going on here and you just from what I've read from what I've watched from what I've seen. I the first thing from the so Lampton game and they struggled at both both ends of the pitch they created the struggled actually to create without Christian Pulisic are before he came on. They had chances. Don't get me wrong but they it didn't seem to have the cutting edge. So I'm I'm most give them credit. Andrew Johnson defended really really well in that game. They were very very good at the back. They were taught centrally. They were very compact and they were deadly on the break and I think just let's take a moment to talk about how good so to at least acknowledge it because the comeback for Southampton and I don't go off on a tangent here but you think about the nine nil. Oh and how hard or how easy it would have been for the Southampton Board to say listen wrath hasn't Hooton we gotta say goodbye. That is just an epic embarrassment but they recognize that he's got a plan he's trying to execute it. There may be some growing pains but backed Chelsea in particular Bednarik Stevens evens at the back for so two excellent and timing Hebron looked a bit lost front willion was was okay was industrious enough but they just toiled but the big thing for me under with Chelsea is that at the back especially when when they're caught on the break and again this so that the midfield did really well a Hoiberg war. tros Armstrong Redmond had excellent Games. But this the thing for me is there seems to be gaps. There seems to be kind of a lack of communication. The goalkeeper is not a hundred he can be quite erotic to. I don't think it's quite the level that he it has been a certain periods last season for Chelsea and that all comes together and they and they leak goals and that's a huge huge problem for them. The other thing that I wanted to mention was you know he tries tries to change things upfront and rotate and younger players. That's that's something that a manager wants to do heavy shed. You will understand. Why why he he? He wants to do that. Frankly part but that causes a little bit of a problem. Pulic was obviously out today because he was injured with hamstring. Hopefully that's not too bad but but you know Franklin Park switching things changing things formation Lee up front can cause a few problems. I was interesting again. The aforementioned Mike Kelly tweeted this and it's linked to a guy called Omar Marcha jewelry and it was a very interesting tweet. Based on based on data that's been collected and Omar tweeted managers do react to performances says what they act. They react much more drastically to results. I argue that it's inefficient. And he goes into the numbers to suggest that and that often often can be the case and I wonder if it's the case a little bit at Chelsea the the performances okay. They haven't actually being that bad for Chelsea that at some point they've just been poor defensively and got caught out and land parts may be tweak things too much and in the end it's ended up being efficient for them inefficient for them. But I'm maybe this is just the growing pains of a essentially a rookie manager at this level. Trying to find the best formula for Chelsea and Honeywell. Well that's that's my read on it. I don't I don't think the fact that he could change it today. Now Look Arsenal. Were much weakened from what I read when nine Moustapha came on and Chamberlain came off so that helped Chelsea in that regard but the fact that frank could tweak it and get a good positive second half today you know that is a good sign for them they are very jekyll and Hyde at the moment and honestly for me. It's a defensive ship it look you say it's a rookie manager. It's not only that it's also an incredibly young squad That is kind of learning on the fly a little bit in their own right and it's interesting too because if this is a situation with managers were reacting more results rather than performances than I. I do wonder how both sides will take away from this today because by by most accounts I mean watching this game to arsenal are probably feeling a little bit unlucky that this game went the way they did because they did play well They had the lead for the vast majority of the game until a burnt Leno. Like we talked about being the authors of your own undoing if it's not arsenal's defence today today it's their goalkeeper Leno with just an awful mistake in the eighty third minute which led to the first goal and then the floodgates kind of Chelsea were able to get that second just four minutes later really really frustrating for Arsenal but like we say I mean if performances matter more than results. You won't find an arsenal fan. That feels that way right now. But maybe there's there's some good things then to take away from this one here shock hislop on ESPN NFC talking about some of that for Arsenal. I thought also played very well. I'll TATA's somehow found a weed again. Include lack to bum Yang. I'm messages you yet. They defended as a team very well. I think that's a huge step in the right direction. As much as I understand the disappointment I think that disappointment Keam because of an individual era by one of us there's more consistent performers and but Leno who just missed judgy flight of a ball and but for that goal you can make the argument also going along for the one nil lead. Because let's be. I didn't have a whole lot to do before that. And take the three points tough one for Arsenal today to lose the way that they did certainly and again. We're talking about time. I've read so much about our Ted has almost had a plan. He's almost the Elizabeth Warren and football right. Now I have a plan for that he's been planning and plotting for his first foray into management for for years but also the specific arsenal bent is done interviews Aziz out a very clear vision for what he wants so okay not the greatest start for him so far the result of than losing in dramatic fashion to Chelsea. But this is where we really test the beleaguered the no beleaguered AF TV and whether the fines can joist host remain calm and low are tattoo to do what he wants to do to take the club forward. Yeah just a couple of other quick things things before we get to your mail bag pellegrini out at West Ham. I don't know if anyone is really going to be shocked by that. Considering the way this season has gone for them there was a time when it looked like this might have actually been a good season for West Ham and then it all it all seemed to spiral. Jj and they are now sitting seventeenth in the table just a point up on Aston Villa in the relegation zone so I think I think Andrew with the money that was spent not all of well not all of it wisely over the last period. I think last season's have been a major disappointment No I don't blend the manager entirely. I tweeted last night and I still stand by it. Manuel Pellegrini. It didn't work out okay. The the signings writings some of them were quite flashy. Some of them were quite. I don't know I'm not sure if they were practical pragmatic signings. Milenko is one that springs to mind in particular but he gets. He doesn't get a chance. Manuel Pellegrini to turn it. Round gets no more chances. That's it and then you look at the board of Gold Sullivan Karren Brady and you wonder. Why are they getting another chance at as well? Why because they own the club but finds we'll tell you? The frustration lays as much with the board yet again at West time as it does with the Monitor. I'm wondering David Moyes. They're we're talking about boys coming back in Saturday was mentioned again for another stint but I wonder where where this ownership is really going. And what's the plan at the London stadium. Yeah and it's a lengthy last clubs. We've been talking about together Arsenal and West Ham. Jj since mid-october Arsenal. This is an amazing stat but in in the league since mid October arsenal have won. Just one game which happened Monday. December ninth against West Ham. I mean it's absolutely insane and I was watching mashing the day with Gary Lineker last night and they showed the table. And you know for anyone who's watched say someone who just started data watching football twenty years ago. We are now in the upside down world. It's madness let's see before we get to our mailbag. I just want to know your in your home. What do you get like for me? Hanukkah has become more of a kids holiday. Like I got like sweatpants because in our move this year. Sure I lost my sweatpants. I don't know where they are. Maybe there's some like moving guy walking around in them right now What do you get on Christmas? Well I'm usually I get the things you might get aftershave. You might get socks underwear boxer shorts things like that scarves sometimes hats. Sometimes when you're older. That's what happens. There are no more toys R.. Boy Boy Hoods are over Andrew This year We were mainly because we had a We had a new nephew was first first Christmas. My brother's kid so it was a lot of focus on on buying stuff for the kids in that on my dad odd For for president for him I got him a friend. Champions League final official program Plus Three Hi Rez Photos Alvin celebrations in Madrid during the summer. which he really likes all that frame for him? That was pretty cool but usually andrew socks and underwear back If it's weird some guys in Ireland and the UK. We'll say thank God. Christmas is coming. I'm running out of socks and underwear really so it's like it's actually a thing. Oh crissier time to reload on underpants. Yeah pretty odd all right and I never knew that you learn something every day Let's see you have a big mail bag. None of which I've been alerted to so I'm going to be operating completely blind here. Yeah before we get to that. I just wanted to say huge Asia win for Stephen Girard going into lines. Dan Celtic Park today. Rangers winning two one and deserving it Andrew should have won the League Cup a couple of weeks ago. They didn't. They were denied right. I didn't think Celtics play that badly again. They did not play well today. But I think it's more the fact that Gerard has this Rangers team playing extremely. Amy Wilder is now a major title race on. I know there was a risk beforehand but the fact that Rangers went to Celtic Park and one means it's truly on on. We're going to have some excitement and Scottish football and I think what the job he's done in terms of getting this rangers team playing and the progression. They've made there will be envious is. He's looking to the north from the South Andrew and I honestly think particularly if he wins the league and he's hoisting the League trophy in May. Hey if he denies the South Records in Scotland of consecutive league titles rather and And he does the business arrangers. I mean how about this West Ham united would be the kind of glitzy. Glamorous signing date has manager they put in David Moyes as a placeholder until May when they announced Stephen Girard intriguing. You don't think yeah I mean it's possible anyway. First one I enjoy them including this because it came into the mail bag and just like Ron Burgundy must read whatever's on the teleprompter. I must read whatever's in the mail bag. This is Diana contact contacting us from Las Vegas. Deer caught offside I something important to tell you. Let me introduce myself. I am the grand medium. I'm Diana the famous sensitive psychic and I would like to offer you an opportunity to change the course of your existence simply by listening to my totally free advice. What are you reading right now? I'm reading what you call Spam Andrew but it's it's a fortune teller from Las Vegas so I'm just wondering if you right now in the football football world if you could see into the future if you had a medium to do that for you what would you like them to tell you for the year ahead. You're asking me this. Yeah what would you like to out for the year ahead either. US Men's national team or something. I'm thinking about the US men and what what are the big milestone moments coming up this year. I don't know if there's anything quite clear clearly. You have something in mind. No I'm just thinking. Do we qualify for the World Cup. I think that's the question I would ask medium Diana so you've rewarded her so this person who spammed our account you've now rewarded her by reading out this advertisement over a podcast consumed by thousands and thousands of people. Wait for this next week Andrew so this has been waiting in our mailbag. Apparently there's a prince in Nigeria. who was ten million dollars? He's GonNa give to us and we only have to give him ten thousand daily dot is all right. Adam Sharpe Andrew. Jj The good fortune of being able to attend the caught. Offside cop on January eleventh I know. Jj looks down his nose at obvious. Tourist tourist bid. Judy Matt scarves. But would either of you are both of you like a souvenir from the game. Well it's obvious we match program that will be really cool. Yeah Yeah of course that would be very cool trying to think of something a little more off the beaten path though something like a little more unique piece of memorabilia everyone gets can get a match program. What's something different different like? Could he like reach out onto the field and maybe grab like like a used Marino tissue. Oh so you want something. Maybe it's something special different while I mean that could be tricky. I mean I guess he could go down depending where he is in the stand right down to the front of the female and asked stewards for something. If there's something scattered along the side wing yeah or just maybe just an autograph from anyone anyone. Anyone there doesn't need to even need to be a manager or player like somebody you know like An attendant maybe somebody who liked pours beer. Anyone something different all right okay. Program is sorry J. J. J. All right okay. Well Adam Sharpe you've been set a challenge. We want something different. and Oh Adam also goes tanks and he doesn't care how long the pods are listened to the very ed and thanks for a lot of good memories Q.. The MARADONNA interview. So is that my cute to actually play it. Yes due to do some work on this podcast or is it just all all my God you all right. Happy very happy and Nathan literal. Okay Okay Andrew. This is one of those where you have to answer are at least help with this and kind of pulled me back from my worst instincts of being a D nozzle Nathan Latrell. Tis the season to drink and chat with friends and family. It is one of my favorite late night. Had enough conversations is imagine if soccer was truly truly the biggest sport in America it is like Germany England. Brazil I'm big. American athletes had then played soccer instead of their current sports. What would your stacking eleven? B Here's mine for jump off. I play a four. Three three would work with attacking wingbacks all right so he has in goals. Jonathan Quick Doc right back. James Harden left-back. Mike Trout centreback Richard Sherman other centre-back. Anthony Davis defensive midfielder leuke weekly left Midfield Russell Wilson Right Midfield. Lebron James Absolutely makes no sense left wing. Patrick mahomes right wing Kawhi Leonard Striker Bryce Harper. I'm doing what is going on. Keep up the great work. You see Nathan. I'm going to be mean about this. What are you doing? Are you flogging players into just wherever you can fit them. bryce Harper strike curve the broad James at right made oh my God this team will be slaughtered. I'm I like. Why is Jonathan quicken goal? No Yeah so you want me to hold you back from being a D nozzle for for what reason here but well. He's not given any any explanation for any of these position right so go at them. I'm with you I'm not holding you back from anything. That's weird all of this. This is one of the laziest tropes rope you encounter when you when somebody usually Rothenberg from. Espn New York goes through and says oh imagine if Lebron played soccer knocker once you mean imagine what he would be like this this. He'd be like a mega coach and we don't even know if he'd have a good. I thought you'd be like this this weird piece like as if soccer doesn't have its own specific skill sets. bryce Harper at Stryker based based on what movement. No I mean Patrick Mahomes. left-wing I mean the homes has got like really good feet are quick. He's dexterous with when it comes to throwing the ball. I guess that's okay but like look now. All of it was crazy but I still can't get past the Jonathan quick in net like local. You know what. I'm actually embarrassed that he whatever it was he was hoping to get out of this. We're in like he sucked us in and now we're talking about it But like if you're going to get someone in net Jonathan quickies six foot one like Andrew get Jaanus Janas. Hit the KUPA six ten. He's got arms that can reach from one side of the net to the other. He's one of the fastest players that you'll see quick instincts. Don't don't give me a six one hockey goalie only come on man. You're right. There was Andrew. Look look at look at the box. James Harden at right back and Mike Trout at left. FBI murder by the way. Let's at least include like can we include any current soccer player so so Bryce Harper striker is a better option option than oh I don't know if messy or like some like Levin doff ski like no soccer player included only random athletes no no no no he. He's imagining if soccer was truly the biggest sport in America and big American athletes had played soccer instead recurrent sport so so so. That's the that's the team. I mean I guess so. WHAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION I? I can't even on nation. It's going to be crying. He said it's nice things about the that'd be looking fairly soon. We spent a solid five minutes talking about it. It's probably more then. We'll spend on any other male bastion. I think I think this next yeah this might be much better. Aren Sing Iran says Hello Andrew and JJ. My name is Aaron singing being huge fan of the pot. Since the start of last season I moved to the US. What my family ten years ago from Wolverhampton so I am decidedly a wolves fan? Although I never really fell in love football until a few years ago okay anyway now. I live in Delaware L. Aware and I'm excited the next primarily fan fest will be in Philadelphia. I was wondering if either of you guys are planning on going. Keep up the good work. Will Your Philadelphian Andrew. Were you going to be going to the fan fest. I haven't been invited properly and so then without proper invitation I feel not wanted and I would feel uncomfortable being there. Yeah no iron. I'd like maybe the Fan Fest for certain people but when you watch it on TV it it it kind of puts you decidedly against going as it is loud this loud background interruption to you watching football in you know it just none. It's not for me. It's not for me but what I would love. That was his harsh criticism that I've ever heard levied against it like for me. I remember watching it thinking okay. Well this is the one that they did. In Fenway. It was the day of the Tottenham Liverpool game and I remember thinking well this is just a Liverpool pep rally. Like I can't like so. That was why I wouldn't have wanted to be there because it just seem like the one in Miami looked kind of cool no it didn't I forgot. Holiday has to hate everything. I forgot who I was dealing with The only place suitable of watching game is in a dark dingy bar corner booth preferably it's not even on TV audio. Only the way that our forefathers consumed it wrong considering I was the mastermind and developer of of the our own very excellent fan fest for the Champions League final. Everything you're saying is wrong. All the caught off-side nation wanted to get together and watch another a big game with us there and do a life pod that will be pretty awesome in any venue you want. We'll do you WANNA plan our own competing fanfest all. We'd murder murder. There's hours it'd be so much more fun. Oh my God come on. Hey you get to make it pancake of Christian Pulisic you. You're you're out of control I had. I don't cosign any of this. Yeah Okay Devon Shoe Hi guys love listening to podcast. Look look forward to new pot every week. Thanks Devon what are your thoughts on breaks or lack thereof during the domestic leagues for instance. The German Bundesliga has a whole month off whereas the primarily. Because because pretty much break I would love to get your take on the pros and cons of having a break and how it influences the League keep up the great work. Devon view is pretty much I think you can have Bob Stevens Day. Folks since Stevens Boxing football in the premier league. I think that works. I think though that sticking to this format I know of playing games every two days like for example playing again on the twenty eighth after playing on the twenty six. We have so much sports science behind the idea that that is not enough recovery time. It's dangerous it's not good for players so I would find a way to kind of say play playing now maybe play play another round of matches on the thirtieth or something like that. I know that will begin then anyways but trying space games out more and then actually do have a break. I think the League would benefit from it. It's you hear unanimity on this from managers on and it's not just because it affects their team aim. Obviously that's a huge part of it but it's also the player welfare and what doctors are telling them to managers Marino and Klopp not. We're both reading from the same script and they called it. A crime the fixtures the way they're set up on this time of year and it's it's hard with all the science that we have to justify. That's that's my opinion. I don't know what yours is Andrew. Look as a fan. I do love it because this time of year. When you're mostly at home like people we'll take off from work so you're available to watch games and consume all this and it's really fun? We Love the sport and like this is a really fun time of year because it comes fast and furious So I love it in that sense but like it's win managers who hate it start punishing you like so we're talking about Adama Traore A and how brilliant he's been and how he is coming off. His is best performance ever against Manchester City and so then because they're turning around as a couple of days later playing Liverpool. What happens today when the team sheets revealed for wolves? Well he's not starting because like we're we're now punished Because Nuno is angry that they have to play this kind of fixture schedule so he's GonNa sit his best player. Now trae all right did come on as Asaba the fifty eight th minute but like he just had his greatest game ever. He's an unbelievable form. Why can't we watch him for ninety minutes against Liverpool so like in that sense it's annoying wing because managers than hold back some of their best players in games or you want to be seeing them play because the fixtures too many so like there can be a happy happy medium? Maybe just like one other mid week game rather than having this insane. Two weeks stretch of multiple midweek's and all that conversely I don't like the a month long break I don't I I understand why they do it but the idea of that is just simply foreign to me Because there's no oh sport in this country that that I follow soccer. Included that replicates that in any way and that just seems just seems. Weird to me So that I I don't like But like I also understand why maybe there are people in the Premier League who don't love the way they do it either so can't we just like compromise and find a normal way of doing it. Yeah I just I just feel like we have to find a way to preserve the tradition tradition of being like you said being people being off work and able to go to games and enjoy that whole thing and and you know just maybe protect our players a little bit more but there are there are other organizations organizations. That come into play on that and other factors and Yeah I guess we're getting to a point where we can't have it the way it used to be got. That much appears to be clear. Here is that Bob Bob. Matai sent me a long winded email. A couple of weeks back on this was I had to break down to the final paragraph Graf. Jayjay it's time for you to stop airing your misgivings about Var. And this is the best part Andrea this is the absolute. I mean only only people who sand emails are tweets. I mean this is something you would never say it to anybody else. Stop Airing your misgivings about Var. Because simply your take is the wrong take okay thank you once again to keep up the great work. Well Bob. I'm delighted Bob that you are not going to enjoy this. podcast Bob Bob and finally Oh wait a second. I don't have any chance to respond to our lovely listener. Bob Bob Bob is a nice guy. But we'll have Blair is what Bob wants me not to air an opinion I mean come on. We'll of course you're entitled to your opinion. Here's what Bob is right about though. Is that like you've become insufferable. And I mentioned it a couple a maybe a month or so ago that like your endless repetitive. Moaning like we get it. We no your point of view and the fact that we have to be continually subjected to it after every single game. It's exhausting and I think bob is feeling that exhaustion any needs you to know that you're killing him. You're killing him slowly and it needs to stop Andrew. I'm subjected to your face each and every today not too many some shape or form and I'm going to be childish about this and say put up with your face you can. You can put up with my opinions while Oh the skill of rhetoric is yours. Jj finally. This is the coolest story of the Christmas. That I've gotten so far and just shows I don't WanNa get soppy but but the reach the podcast highs on the the nation the army of listeners on just genuinely good people that we've built up and this is from Atticus Andrea proctor. Doctor I am writing to on behalf of myself and my brother Andrey of I'm presuming. I'm saying that right probably not. We've both fathered the POD for over two years and never missing episode oftentimes when we each other to to catch up because I live in Tucson and he lives in Vermont. The pod comes up. We discussed the latest caught offside content you guys have. has those make a ton of soccer memories over the years on holiday. Last year I remember belting the CONCACAF Champions League saw with my brother as we. We're driving to the ski hill fast forward to this year and you both have helped us make a new football memory. So here's the story. Andrew this past April are seventy five year. Old Grandmother. Grandmother was in Ireland and as she was driving her rental car. She sent us snapchat. Yes our granny has snapchat ice off of a street sign showing us that she was in slagle upon seeing this I- atticus immediately told her about. My brother and I listened to awesome soccer podcasts. Where one of the whole is from slagle legal? I also requested that it will be beyond awesome if she could track down slug rovers kits for us. Because we've become slagle fans vicariously through. Jj Fast fast forward to Christmas morning 2019. My brother and I having completely forgotten about our requests for Sligo Rovers pyro open to beautiful slugger rovers. Chris Kids I've attached a photo of me and my brother wearing our kids. I'M GONNA put them on social media so we are officially slugger rovers fans. Now thank you for putting together a fantastic pod each week that we can enjoy. We truly appreciate your work and enthusiasm for the POD. We look forward to more a pop memories and conversations. We wish you the best for the New Year. While that's that's that's pretty amazing. But guess what my brother got me for Christmas. So slide goes kit. sligo rovers sell the match worn kits. So you can get a kit that was worn by player on Slag Rovers for the past season for Christmas and he got me Ward Centrebacks Jersey and number four four and it's got the official league patches and everything those beautiful that in that email we got is beautiful. I look forward now to their grandmother. Sending them a picture when when she's in Fort Washington Pennsylvania. It's only fair. Oh absolutely she now has to travel to upper Dublin. That's right for for for a complete balanced by the way Andrew before we go. We should mention Erling browder Holland. He is going to be wearing a New Jersey from From very soon for Borussia Dortmund apparently yes thoughts on that. My thoughts are just feel sick for Jesse Marsch. Yes as his team has just pillaged beneath him right in the moment of their peak and I just look it's the way of the world in this sport So no one should be surprised or I guess really upset about it. It's just the way that things are car. I just I. I support him as an American manager. Trying to get it done in Europe. And he's done so well so far and I I don't know I guess this will will be yet another test that he'll now have to pass losing his two best players heading into January skysports reporting that he signed for Brescia Dortmund from Salzburg. Osberg we know they understand that Manchester United Matt Holland's twenty million release clause but refused to meet conditions for the transfer. We believe the conditions for the transfer ransomware Earning browde Holland would get a cost of the transfer fee. Not his agent. which would be against the norm for transfers on how they're usually executed which is pretty interesting? What I'm interested? Is that the. The Red Bull Organization is Asian. I mean it's a global sporting organization and Global Football Organization. The fact that he doesn't go to Leipzig is quite interesting as well. Well it's not a farm system. Well acclaimed it is in many ways it is and in many ways. It's been proven and to be you know. Takumi mean Amino going to Liverpool at doesn't benefit them really although there's rumors about some kind of Understanding being brought between the two clubs about transfers in the future. I don't have any details on that. That's a rumor but I would have thought that you know NATO's men would have liked to have worked with with with the with Holland in the Bundesliga and now the best young striking talent in Europe is going to arrival by the way. He's he's he's really. He's a pretty poor forum at the moment. Andrew just the twenty two goals in twenty two games while so so. He's clearly struggling for form. Yeah well there you go. That is this podcast. We'll be back You still in Ireland. I believe but we'll be back sometime this week for a kind of a recap of this whole festive period. I I don't know I never know what people think of these podcasts. Were were apart. I don't even know what I think of them. Sometimes sometimes so hopefully people have found themselves enjoying this. But I I don't know and if you didn't my apologies what can I do to make it up to you. What would you like J. J. do Because I understand also at people who were requesting us to to do x or y you gotTa realize the holiday period we are with our families. I am in a different country entry so I don't have access to the same amount of football. I have different access rather to different amounts of football so I can't always talk about the things you want me to talk about like you know. Now if I'm going for dinner with my family on I may not sit down and watch bones league highlights so I can discuss them on the podcast. You're so sensitive again. God no I'm coming down with a call Andrew and I I just can't hack it. I never good what Manslu or with people apparently more of you and you like the way you look down your nose at them and the requests. I'm with my family. I don't have time for this. Oh that is not true all all how dare you don't pay me in this like the way I love to paint you in certain lights doing that. Same thing to me. I want you to stop. I'll never stop. You can't make me you're not here physically To physically make me stop. which is what your normal goto would be well? Hey this one when I get back sonny boy I will look look after you. This was fun I will speak to you. Jj during the week and then we'll be back with a podcast probably near the end of the week after new years. All right. That sounds like a plan to you. That's pretty good to me man. All right well. Hey to all of you find people out there. I say how happy New Year. Jj Happy New Year to you as well take Karadzic. 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"The. Off, size. Chichi to ready. Yes hold all thought the suburb of New York City apartment in Brooklyn and Gulling as JJ's Advani. We have actual et L. to some white, even say. EPL Back for additional coverage, which is much catchier than the original EPA back for more Andrew the football is back, and the football is reassuringly crap. And, that's been important. It's so funny. You say that I didn't even tell you that that was what you just did. Is something that I kinda wanted to talk about I can't even believe he just did that. It's like a a segue. Few could even dream of and now it's wire. which kind of kills this segue? So I was listening to another soccer podcast. I won't name them because I'm about to. Criticize them and I usually only name other podcasts. I want to praise them I. feel bad about criticizing them, and then telling you who I'm criticizing. Is Insurance I'm. No, it was not. It was not I like them I don't care. I enjoy them, but at any rate. To at least soccer, I'm not gonNA know. Wasn't that either and I'm going to just say no to everything that you say you're that guy. You Want Your tabloid. You criticize tabloids, but you need the gossip you. It's killing you right now that that you don't know who I'm talking about, but at any rate it's not important br anybody people who listen to this podcast probably listening to that one too, and they know who I'm talking about in a SEC, but like they started off their show I was listening to. And! They kinda started off. It was sort of tongue in cheek, but it was there was an air of seriousness in meaning it to what they were saying, and they were just Kinda like killing the action, and just like Oh. It was awful. Just lie, it was it was really tough to watch it and I I just feel like. As a listener in that moment I was not Andrew Gulling the podcast, or whatever like I was just a fan listening for what their reaction was to someone happened over the weekend and I was just thinking more about that, and I was just like. Is this what People WanNa hear like? The all these gains that I invested time in and watch like okay I know what my eyes! Eyes told me these weren't works of art I. Get it, but like do you want to just like come on? And had people tell you how awful like it happens in this sport? And maybe it's an indictment of sport, but it happens in the sport, the coverage of it more than any other sport that I think I follow where it seems like the people within this within this. You! Let podcasters journalists whatever they love to just crap on the game, and I don't know if that's like some sort of smugness, arrogance I don't know what it is, but I. don't I don't know as a listener if people wanna hear us just like come on and be like yeah, the. All but we're GonNa talk about him now. Anyway, because what else are we? Going to do like I, just don't want to hear that anymore kind of tired of it. Who is worse than Andrew? The people who talk about football as if it's this cross between the greatest action adventure film you've ever seen, and every game is just these moments of almost orgasmic joy and the guys who slag it off. Let me tell you this weekend I prefer if you WanNa, give me fake joy and enthusiasm. Okay I'll be able to tell that it's fake, but I think I think I'm now in a place. Prefer that to someone just telling me. It's all sucks that it's not enjoyable. No, but. Soccer! That weekend was not that much different from a lot of weekends. We seem before. Do you know how many goals? Many goals have been scored in the last like seven. Merseyside, diabetes or something like that. At goodison like one. Yeah! People need to. We've built up the the. And I hate this I hate. This I never want to hear it again. We've built up the beautiful game to this level where it's I mean there's bad NFL Games. Games shuttlecock badminton. Sorry, there's there's there's drew can be dry games of ice hockey as well. It's just you know I'm by the way I would say that. The moments that illuminated this weekend which we will be going through now shortly. were. Payoff enough, they were so good for the minute. You spent watching the game beforehand. The Consensus Back Home Andrew is that the football needs to get better else. We will tune out. Yeah. That's that that's what I'm. Hearing is like these guys have been off not really training consistently for like four months, and they get thrown back into the super weird environment for them to be like playing in the sixty thousand seat stadiums with no people in it like this is a weird weekend of action and people. It seems like people just have no tolerance for a transition back into playing under really really strange circumstance I will say. This arsenal held up their end. They have kept their levels of consistency. To a great degree, should we start with Man City and Burnley today. Yes sure if you want to do that I don't I honestly. I watched it I. Don't have a ton to say about it except for except for this there since the restart Manchester City. They had their way with Arsenal. They did they did the same thing again today with Burnley. And sometimes you watch them. And you like not just watch them. Look at the names you see the team. You see the manager. You Watch how they play. And then you look at the table. And you're just Kinda Lake. How how did this happen? How is this gap? What it is this Manchester City team. Everything is my brain. It all tells me that what I'm watching is a great team. And I think the last two seasons plus have have bore that out. I guess there just we'll look back on the season. We'll just look at a few games and say what they weren't on it that day. I I. Don't know because I still I. still wholeheartedly believed that next year will begin and Manchester City will be right back contending title in a in a way that was just not indicative of what we saw this season well as As, they should be on durant. And again it was Lee Dixon that remark during the commentary that he counted four hundred million dollars worth of talent, sitting on the bench on, so they had a drop off for sure. We've pointed out Ad Nauseam the defects that often happen in in in in the pet bought three thousand plan, and that can happen and some of the defects. The major defect was that they met Liverpool team that this time was relentless even when it was playing bad and that's that's the difference Liverpool were that good. On City had those those games where they fell away away to Norwich, etc, etc, but they hammered Burnley today. They've looked really sharp and three start although. I would not measure anything. that are performance, because that was so spineless and supine and pathetic from arsenal, but But you see we. Are we talking about that game? Do Right now. No I'm just saying. We can. We can lump both of these men city games at once because there's. Things to say about that. Arsenal game will will the reason. I think David Luiz has become this. This. This meme, this joke, this clown. This food become has been for some time again, and we said at the start of the season signing him was just. Just such a weird signing almost convenience he lives up the road in London and he wants out like. Let's get him in when you know, it's a long time since I've louise is put together a string. Honestly and we're beating a dead horse saying it because our preview podcast we talk about it, but it was just the ultimate. We Are you know let's look at our squad. Oh my God. We're horribly thin. It centre-back. Oh my God, there's no-one available. Who's the biggest name that we can just go out and get and hope that that appeases the fans? Who's the biggest name we can get quickly? Who doesn't have to move house and come into preseason straightaway? David Luiz. And but. Andrew homicide like let's let's move him aside. Let's move the conversation. He was a disaster. Against Manchester City, but let's move the conversation to the to the to the Brighton game. You know well actually no, let's stick with with the man city game. We should. We should talk not city. We're brilliant. Arsenal were terrible. Maybe. If you've got nothing to say about city, we'll talk arsenal nano because I want to say that that's later on in the rundown. I've got my brand June into city now because I do WanNa. Talk about the game at the Emirates Today, and the and the and the crowning of a new king of English football, as well in Phil Foden put them, but you know Aristotle rolled-over so easily for city I and. And City were ruthless, but they always are an There was just no way arsenal were ever GONNA put up anything against city so I thought okay, we'll pack that one. Let's let's let's move on and so city play a Burnley today. An I texted you beforehand I just thought there was no chance Bernie. Get anything out of this game. An Burnley were resolute for for a little bit or did their best. To try to be compacted. There was an organization there, but city like you said. City are so good at what it is they do and you know. The hours of shadow play the hours of of of work in terms of movement. There's always somebody able to get on the ball. Look at look. David Silva Andrew He's on the way out the door I know and look at the performance. He's putting in there so. It's funny not to cut you off, but I feel like one of the the marks of a truly great team is I'll watch Manchester City play, and a month will go by and I'll say boy Sergio Guero is just clearly the best player on the team, and then like another month will go by and I'll be like Kevin has just clearly the better and that it's running. Sterling is just cleared, and now I feel like I'm saying Mars is the best player on this team. They have so many best players on this team. It's a team filled with best players on this team. I don't know how you account for them and they did something today that I think it's I. Think needs to become the next trend in. English football say all football worldwide. Because we go through these trends. You know that's. Playing from the back things like that. One striker up top. Jj. The, way Manchester City work the corner kick. The setpiece corner kicks like to Foden. Who then you know, he'll do something either shoot or then they'll run and play after that like I. Think it's time that that becomes a more regular thing. Like these these just. Throwing balls into the box and just hoping. I I have to believe that the percentages of of I won't say creating a goal of creating a more quality scoring opportunity I have to believe the percentages are more in favor of working a well run set piece from a corner rather than just. Lobbing one into the box and hoping for the best and I mean that was. I think if you're Sean Dyche. You're going to be very upset with that. Goal I mean it's it's a brilliant finish. Don't get me wrong, but equally. You know. If Bernier, that little bit sharper G- There may be getting out to close them down quick, but you're right. There are. There are teams that you know kind of. US Women, I yeah I. Mean were they love their near poorest corners as well, but there are teams that have variations on Corner Kicks Barcelona due to. You know it's not it it. It's not quite what you think it is, but there are a lot of sites that have such good guys would set piece delivery, but they do with it in, and they don't really work too much, but you're right. If you look again, we will deal with this later. I don't WanNa. Go back to the Brighton Arsenal game, but. At Brighton's equal brightens equalizer was a was a short corner, which was horribly mismanaged and I. Think if you're showing dice. You're going to be pretty upset with the way the Bernie defended that. That corner kick, but honestly our Andrew this game was a trend of all the games that people have said have been like training games. This won't was very much a trend game I know I was thinking the same thing Jay. Even in the way that Manchester City goal scores were reacting to their goals, yeah. There was just like no emotion and granted I. Don't know what Manchester City are playing for right now. They're out of the tunnel race. Their top four chances are solidified, but they may not even be Champions League for them. Because of the ban in Europe so I just Kinda just kinda going through the motions right now, but look what their version of going through the motions are like they're just destroying teams. But you're right like watching Phil. Foden and reacting after scoring these goals, he was just lights so calm, and it was almost on for a guy who. A guy who's had limited opportunities. And now the clamor the the clamor starts, foden will be a feature for England in in in the next season's next summer. Please God euro twenty twenty. One I mean Andrew. Why not they don't have that. Many options in terms of really comfortable guys on the ball in the middle of the park and he's one of them Yeah, it's And he's about to become a regular for them like if there was concern for inland. We are so well. David was going to leave, and I like why I mean look, it's Manchester City so you can never rule out them just like throwing crazy money at somebody, but you know especially, if Leroy Sante leads as as he apparently going to do and they're going to get a lot of money for that. But like why wouldn't they get this guy a chance to be that to be midfielder for them? When I? You know being the proper football man who likes to see players come through academies and be brought in that way rather than by throwing. Hundreds of millions of dollars at the issue. Yeah, I think I. Think It'd be nice to see to be refreshing to say, but unfortunately that wasn't really the story of the game. So. Right at the commencement of the game, right as the players had just taken a knee for the black lives matter campaign People who we don't know on. We don't know who organized it, but the assumption is. That they were Burnley fans flew plane with a banner over the IT. He had that, said White Lives Matter Burnley. which was which is now subject of an investigation by the police and the Premier League? And Before. We say anything I think it's important to listen to burn these Ben me. Who had some pretty strong? Say about what happened. Our funds. Besides. Around the stadium. To Point and group lots INARA embarrassing. To See and It's not. Also missed the whole thing trying to trying to achieve trying to do. I think these people needs to convince the twenty first century and educate themselves, and you know as a lot. Was They win? Please point of the whole thing that we're trying to achieve and. Does Not Represent. About the robot. Under about show. So he addressed it straight away. The the question from the sky reports, or was tough night for Burnley, and not he was obviously referring to probably both things. But Ben me didn't shark and go for the football option, which probably in this case was easier option to talk about. He went straightaway and said he was embarrassed by that by that banner that was flown over the stadium. I mean I'm I'm so glad that he used this term over and over again missed the point. Miss the point because that's that's it. That's it like everybody who continues to harp on on those sort of lines. The all lives matter things like that. They are missing the point like the. Because we know that all lives matter what we're saying is that black lives have not been treated in that manner, and so that's what this movement is is to basically catch black lives up with the rest of lives. That's why this is all happening. How are people not seen right our? They're not putting this movement together. With what what? What the phrase is black lives matter so I'm glad that he kept on using. Miss the point the point because people continue to miss the point the choosing to miss the point, I don't get it. Yeah, I think as well for context. Burnley has as as a tone. Ten years ago elected some I mean they were the epicenter of the fire, right, rice and British politics There's an interesting article out tweeted out about. From the New Statesman about that that moment, in time, where they were electing some of the most morally and ethically reprehensible candidates dot have ever come out of British politics and and it's interesting Andrew. People keep saying it's a small minority of of people I I think it's quite a large amount of people. It's not a small as we say it is, and it's scary when you see the protests against black lives matter. In London two weeks ago, I'm wondering how many of those organized the plane to fly over. The ad were involved in that too I think football still has a race problem in terms of In terms of those who are racist football fans will elect. Barnes told us when he was on with us. It's not football that has a race problem society that does right, and but football is the largest cultural. Cultural Theater for shows up all the time, so I'm glad. Ben Me, spoke that way, but it was a completely overshadowed. What was a fine performance by Manchester City? Let's see I. Guess Let's go to Arsenal now. It seems like you desperately want to talk about them. Although for whatever reason you continuously, stop yourself from doing it We talked about what happened with David Luiz in the Manchester City match. For the Brighton Match WanNa talk a little bit about the burnt Leno Situation Neil. Being at the center of that I'm a little bit torn on it like I believe that moped was probably a little bit overly aggressive. In the way he approached it And, but like by the same token, does that necessarily make it dirty? I feel like there was a little bit of bad luck involved with just the way Leno. There was a lot of bad luck. Yeah, yeah! But one thing I wanted to talk about with the incident was the way. That arsenal responded to it so. There's this talk consistent talk about Arsenal having the soft underbelly. That's you know kind of like. We've heard troy deeney talk about that before we hear pundits and media talk about that before. I heard a ton of that in the wake of this game with Arsenal, capitulating at the end, and throwing the lead away, and then ultimately throwing the game away. There was a ton of talk about. If you go down against arsenal, it's no big deal because they're soft. They'll let you back in a okay. Maybe maybe I'm talking about two different things here, but. I would also say that okay, so Neil Nell pay then at the end of the game wants to rip Arsenal for kind of the way they reacted to him. After the burnt Leno incident like. To me, soft underbelly would be if arsenal just showed nothing in the way of motion at no Andrew, or after what happened apply. Sorry, sorry, sorry, and I. I. Really I'm not just picking on you for this, but there's a difference between petulance. And you know channelling aggression into the right way arsenal didn't play better. They weren't inspired by what moped Delano. They didn't roll their sleeves up and say right. We're GONNA batter these guys. They went one up Fernow Brennan goal by Nicholas Pepper, and promptly conceded straight afterwards when they switch off the soft underbelly, still there the their right to get him. mopus faced a right to defend their teammates I I. I'm talking about that side of it like in baseball, sometimes like okay arsenal still played poorly. Yes, but like sometimes in baseball a guy will strike out, and he can either walk back to the dugout and put his home it down. Whatever sometimes I want to see a guy after he strikes out, take a bat and smash the Watercooler Okay like yeah, you still struck out. It was still a bad moment. This, it is what it was for us. They're not very good and like teams can come back against and they're defending is they're always going to keep teams in the game because they have bad defending. It's just the way it is. But, what I'm saying is I kinda. Don't like Neil. Moped and people want to rip the way who doozy and arsenal players reacted. To Mo- pay and I'm kind of saying I. I don't know if at least at least they're showing that they care. Yeah I do Andrew, because then look at the way the reactors that the corner kick for goal. You're talking about short corners. I mean there's to Brighton. Players gone out and Danny SA-. Bias is the only one who trots out to make a half past effort to stop that bill. Look. They're not your team. The ball goes into the box on. Holding isn't strong enough to stand up and boot that ball away that things should have been cleared and and I thought worse than all. That I thought was Mustafa at the end of the game. It drove me crazy how he allows moped run by him. And then what is he doing? Screams it as goalkeeper afterwards will. How `bout you stay in front of your man? They're they're not a likeable team? They're not a very good team. I'm just saying I at least for me. At least they showed some kind of motion that it that at least it mattered. I think you're damning them. Would Fan prayers android. Look. The same issues of affected him for a decade under vanguard are still there like centreback. Why's Moustapha still at the club? Never Mind Louise Holding. Those guys can't defend like you said. The midfield is unable to keep control of again. They can get control of a game, but there's no way they're holding onto dot dot dominance, the lack of leadership on the field like they're senior. Pros Andrew like. Like Moustapha is World Cup winner I. Maybe he's Great and addressing room. He's not good on the field as a leader Collazo Nats I. Just don't see leaders in the team. An you know what said staffer blower, said exactly what you're saying. When he was writing about this over the weekend, he just said it comes down to the fact that they don't have good players like you take. Let's go to the good players Balmy Yang. Lacking said Nicholas Patty and we don't know exactly what he's going to be. He's he's very raw. Yeah, but look at the goal that from three is. That's pretty awesome. You look back to midfield. With what he's going to be these young Jacka, I, mean obviously wasn't planning at the weekend Danny so bias. Skillful shore is going to be able. To pick it up for the Premier League hasn't done it yet, not consistently. Missed a lot of the season with injury. We don't know we're hearing. Tyranny signed from Celtic sign and we've been told can't hold on a regular spot in the team. He has had injury problems as well and look at the defenders. Look, are Ted has got a lot to do what you bought up on the podcast last week was most important. Wilder be the money to change all this well. Here's part of the problem so. Arsenal as a whole Darren Lewis of the Daily Mirror was on the Sunday supplement. He spoke about the way. The club is handling their key players from kind of financial perspective. The transfer perspective he said Obama Angus set to become the latest in a long list of players who have left the club either on a free or for substantially less than their market value. When you get a talent, such as Sokha and his contract is running down. You have to ask. Why has a big club like arsenal? Not move more quickly to be able to sign him up. I think it's true for Arsenal. I think it's true what we saw what we seem to Tottenham with players like for Tongan. Out of Christian Erickson. Who Left? These clubs leading their their players contracts run down to the end, and it creates all this uncertainty. It creates discord between the player and the club. You know players WanNa feel either taken care of or if they no longer WanNa, be there I think sometimes. It's a tough decision to make, but maybe it's for the greater good. Just let them go. And so for Arsenal to allow some of these key players to get to within the final year of their contract I feel it just creates all this this uncertain atmosphere around the club, and it's you know it's just not. It's not helpful and to give our Ted his Jew. He is trying to set standards. He is trying to do things the right way you know. He's leaving was loaded the team. He's not. He's not getting involved if he's not gonNA work, or if he's not gonna put in what he wants, he's not GonNa have always been the site. I feel for our Ted. It's a long road ahead and I hope. That he's given the time that he that's needed. Because it's GonNa take a long time. I think he will be I can't. He doesn't feel like. I mean arsenal. Know what they are right. who expected him to come in and work a miracle? Yeah, I know but. I mean. emery either like I knew it wasn't going well under emory, and I think I've seen more from our data, not much more, but I have seen more and he's a rookie manager Andrew I don't i. it it depends on. I'm not entirely trustful of the ownership of the club either from what I've seen over the past few years. No, it's been A. It's been a bad restart for them. There's There's just no way around that Let's talk quickly about the Merseyside Derby. Nil Nil is how it ends Liverpool's tidal wave. We'll have to wait just. A little bit longer. Not a ton really to say about. Liverpool missed Mosala a little bit somebody who could just provide sort of that cutting edge. In attack. I thought Saudi-omani was dangerous. The. Shaves Coleman Battle was fun to watch I so good. It was awesome. Yeah, really was and. I mean clearly Angeletti. If you WANNA see the impact. He's made at Everton just to talk about them for Second Watch dot first forty five minutes. I thought I thought Everton. More compact taught. There were so well organized. When's the last time? Everton have been this organized not under. Michael Silva like Liverpool loved plan Everton under Soviet like the chaos that the the gaps, the space is the defensive errors, certainly not under Ronald Koeman a not as well maybe a little bit more on a crewman, but certainly not the same under Roberto Martinez so. This is like this is real solid coaching work. That's being done by Ancelotti, and it's it's. It's really really good. It's not it might not be great to watch in terms of you know. It's not super exciting, and they do have to figure out that midfield what they're gonNA. Do offensively a little bit more, but Everton earn a really good place and they denied Liverpool. Space I taught Liverpool at all the ball Everton out the chances and the chances mainly came when Liverpool last Joel Matic I. Thought I thought Liverpool were going to just keep plugging and plugging working the Engels Everton would tire, and Liverpool will get that opportunity, but what happened was matchup goes off and Liverpool arts soul unsettled by introduction of Lavin like Andrew How many there were three attacks, three scoring opportunities straightaway download lifetime channel the right hand side of the central defense there when Lavin came in. And Everton could could have nick Gammon and mid Liverpool. Wait even longer for the for the championship so. I think good I, honestly other than DOT. It wasn't good. No, not really I have a couple of quick things just on Everton. One we don't talk about this guy very often, but I wanted to throw out there that I I liked Calvert Lohan as a player. I think he could be. You know he's a young player. A potential inland international I think he could be a good piece for them to to build off of in. Charlotte Lison is an interesting one for me with Everton. I love him in the sense that it seems like everything positive that they do in attack. He is in some way. Involved with it, and I love players like that who they're desperate to be on the ball in key moments in attack. By God if there are moments when I kinda, screamed at the TV and say like just make that pass. Do this one thing different. You can tell he's. He's a really good player and under the right coaching as long as he's willing to listen to like. enchiladas allegedly as long as he's willing to listen to. These guys I feel like he could really be a superstar in this league, but he just has moments I know. They even commented on. It was a grandma so or Lee. Dixon I can't remember who was doing that, but even commented on it in the second half. When you know, he had someone streaking in the middle of the box. Where if you play the ball in you know may not be the world's easiest pass, but if it gets through, it's an easy tap-in goal, and instead he goes for this like he's going for the incredible. He's playing hero ball. And I think someone needs to harness that. Because hero ball can be a good thing if you're a world talent. But sometimes it's just going to do nothing more than infuriate your teammates. I actually think his work rid and the way for Everton the fans really like it. Because there's a little bit about him, he's not. He's not I wouldn't enjoy playing against him. He's he's. He's got that alleged to him, but he's not a polished finisher yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on I would agree with you. Just on Liverpool before we get off the game. You could see Roulston I'm not making excuses, but you could see moments of Ross like there was the one move in the first half. Which I think was Liverpool's move in the game, and it ended up. It was quick interplay. Monay Amino and ended up at the feet of Roberto Forino, and he just dragged this shot way of the post like sculpted completely when he should really hit the target, and I looked at that, and just that little bit of edge has been taken off. I'm one comment I wanted to make in. This school is not just for Liverpool Everton arsenal, or or any team. Really in the primarily. You don't get better, not doing something. REPETITION is important and this break has affected every team. There's no question horse of course lasting Charlotte, and can you think of another player Jj I feel like when when I'm watching him. He's one of these guys who he always looks angry I. Don't know that's his. Yeah, exactly what I mean by age. Yeah, yeah, like I feel like maybe like Bellamy okay I feel like also like Clint. Dempsey may have had a little bit of that where I felt like he was always playing angry. But I feel like we're strong. His actual face like. He looks like he's mad. Stretch this construction of it. Or, maybe that's just the face. He's making when he's playing just a very intense guy. I WanNa see what he looks like. When he smiles at that, he has a nice smile. Let's see we continue now. Jj Oh, my God Christian Leszek. He didn't have a spot in Franklin part starting eleven, but that did not prevent him from making a massive impact He has now this season career high six league goals. In fact about this stat, his six goals are tied for the most by an American in their first premier league season. He's tied with Brian McBride. No good guests, very good guests, one of the best ever heard Joe Max. Moore who did it for Everton in the ninety nine two thousand season. Kid does about that, and there's plenty of time where I would. If I were a betting man, I would probably put money on to get another one before it's all said and done and. Hold that record to himself. Frank Lampard talked about Pulisic after the game. Because you know, we Americans we, we only see him through the lens of what every decision means for his future. That's the only way we can. So when he's not starting like the freak out is palpable when he comes on as a sub, the excitement is palpable like. It's fun to ride this this way. It's exhausting I. We got a tweet. Thankfully was only one tweet I avoided. The rest of the comments wound guy tweets us and goes. Lampert didn't even celebrate when he score. And I tweeted back he did. He pumped his fists. tweet he tweets back rolling. He tweets back. I must have missed that. I just want him to play every single game, so he goes on and brings us to world. Club World Cup glory like. It's insane. I can't handle it. But it's fun though it's fun, it's not fun. It's not fun. I think doing just fine at Chelsea. Really well actually so lampard said after the game. It's almost like he was speaking to us. Americans like I feel like with quotes like this. He said he will start games for us. Of course and I think he's going to be a big player for us. Not just in the running, but going forward, he was hungry. I know that and I felt for him. I felt for the players that long-term injuries the ability. He's got to arrive in the box. It's a big thing I've spoken about it with him all season. It's the difference between being a very good player off the side and attacking player or the players are. Are the real top level the game that arrive and score the six yard box and hit numbers yearly I. Really Think Kristen can do that, so I was really pleased with him the impact he made when he came on Jayjay. If there is it even possible on this podcast for us to utter the name, Frank Lampard, and then not have you immediately say arriving late in the box it it's and frank is now seeing a little bit of himself in Young Christian and I think that is I think that bodes well I think frank is taking him under his wing. And I think this is the beginning of a of a beautiful mentor relationship between I mean he's put the pressure on him straightaway and we've put the pressure on him to score the ammonia goals that lampard did arriving late in the box. I would say this. The kid didn't play a competitive game since January I I actually didn't expect them to start and. What did I text you when he was coming on? He's GonNa make an impact. What he's done consistently an even in those games where we were like Oh my God, he didn't score against Sheffield United, and and from what I've heard. They're not so good, my God. What are we GONNA do. It should just sell them. Sell them. Sell them to the Columbus. Be Happy. You know that you rule sees that kind of. Dot stuff it with such nonsense. He was still performing well I mean there were games? there. Was that Champions League game where Lambert inexplicably left him out of the squad what? After that the performance against the performance against Burnley away, lampard unless he is. Unless, he's arrived late so much in the box that it's affected. His brain is not stupid. He is going to see what Pulic is is giving, and he will be a regular starter. Also, Christian. PULISIC has not proved durable over his career. Playing every game is not good for him. That's what I'd say. He is a great point. I hate that it's a point that exists but I. I really I think so highly of this kid's time and his skill. I really believe the only thing that can set him on the wrong course. Are these injuries because not just because of what it'll do to his body, but when you're at a club like Chelsea who we now see are more than willing to spend again as the team of earner signing has now become official. Like he may continue to still be really good after these injuries, but there's other guys who are waiting for their turn, who are also really good and he may just miss an opportunity based solely on that So you're. You're right. I hate that that's thing, but he's got a I. Don't know how you tell a guy like be healthy more, you know these are muscle injuries. This was an Dr Muscle injury that he was dealing with like I. Don't I don't know how you fix that stuff? I just hope that it's right now. It's some sort of bad luck situation, and then he'll be fine going forward, but you're right, man. That's I really think that's the only thing that can kind of deter the direction that he's headed, but accident weekend for him. Oh Yeah Oh. Yeah, we'll talk about another American who had a two other Americans actually that had nice weekends differently coming up shortly. Which is why I am. Already Giddy for twenty twenty six World Cup, but that is another story for another day. some other thoughts. Jj on the race for the top four suck a little bit about Manchester United Spurs. Thought. Again not a great game. I thought both teams I thought both teams kind of looked like like. This is one of the games kind of looked like. A game of these two teams from before this break like we're talking about other teams that came out all day. Look Rusty clue in this break has gotten to this. This came to me. Kind of looked like. Tottenham pre the the break like they're trying to play on the counter. They don't really hold much possession. They're trying to be compact, but like they get as the game progresses, and they'd got this narrow lead. They get more compact and more compact, and eventually you could just feel I, texted you. I said the goal is coming. I didn't know how it's going to happen. Necessarily I don't necessarily know penalty, but you could just. You could feel that Manchester. United were going to get something because Tottenham it's it felt like it was more and more last-ditch defending fewer opportunities going back the other way. I do give Spurs credit for for a couple of things for one I thought after the The Manchester United goal. Even though I feel I taught him a really gassed and Marino, for whatever reason didn't really utilize the extra substitution, or even the the even three substitutes I think he only used to, but whatever they were gassed, but I felt like they did regather themselves for those last ten minutes. Put some pressure on united. I know they almost conceded a penalty in their own right. But I thought that you know it could've. It could've gotten away from them. With how headed and I thought that they kinda steadied themselves in. At least we're able to see out the draw. And you're looking for other positives. I think I think Stephen. Bird bond is a really good player. I think he fits what Marino wants to do. He's he's lightning-quick, and he appears to be a good finisher We saw against Manchester. City and now we saw it again against Manchester United I. Know Debit. The Hey was partially at fault, but the bird got that ball about fifty yards away dribbled right around Harry Maguire. Who's in England international? WHO's having a good season and fired a accurate hard shot on net? couldn't handle it so I really like him. He got hurt. You know he's another guy who I hope injuries don't second the wrong way. 'cause he was playing great, and then he had the injury before the break. He's healthy now and I thought he was really good. Yeah I think. I think you're being very kind. To Harry Maguire and his defending on that gold it those individual bursts from from deep That's Ho- Spurs are going to win Games under Marino. That was a long ball hooked up the field. That wasn't dead with by show I think it was. He heads it, and then as Roy Keane. Pointed out just runs. They lose the ball or space and behind and the United. Defense was opened up to here definitely should have done better. But you know I thought united. Plato Cain that I have and The goal came out and nothing I I really thought United. We're going to. We're going to dominate that game and What was interesting for me? Was the impact of Paul Pogba in the second half all? Star game. Yeah, he was so good now. Eric dire did not cover himself in glory in his defending and Pogba didn't even have to Pug, but didn't even have to turn on the tricks to tournament into the box, and he warned that penalty perfectly, and yes, it was a penalty Bob by saw flashes his passing ranch pass. He played on the half volley. That was just you know perfect, and I honestly think him and Bruno Fernandez, campaign midfield together as long as they can, and we can see it clearly. They've got to be able to screen the to United centre-halves. Wha-, either my Tomini, or manage or some combination of the two, because they are susceptible now we're all very nice here. Andrea. We're all very kind. We talk nicely about this game. In a rational manner, I think though the Star of that game was sitting in a studio in London. Shuman Hair Watson district football. I am staggered up Maguire. International player can just get done like this and I am sick to gotTA. Keep her. I will be fighting them halftime. There's no getting away from new. Why would be swinging punches about guy? This is a standard stay for an. Established International Goalkeeper. Day, but I am fed up about the hair, the most already goalkeeper Naw. Trace over. Did. He do anything to restore his reputation with the from Sun. I'd say this this is this. Your awesome decisions medical that near the voice there was petry's ever. The dominant voice was Roy. Keane who? I mean little twitter across the world. With threatening to punch Avid Day because of his attempted to save in the lead up to the Bergen said he wouldn't let him back on the bus. Right said to Maguire and. To to hear the both of them will be left behind. Strong and people say you know while he's playing a character, is he? I'm not so sure I. Think this. This is who he is and look. You know we know in sports media? There's there's much of the outrageous performance. We Know Fan TV. We know even in this country. Speak for your son for whatever that is on Fox I mean a lot of that is is performance, but we keen. I don't think for a second that that's the case. This is who he is. This is a guy who left players behind on an away trip trip for Sunderland because they were a minute late for the boss. And Daniel. Tanner tweeted something out. I texted it to you over the weekend. This is a guy who when he was at Nottingham Forest. As a assistant manager, last year would get annoyed when fans would send requests for autographs and not send stamps, so they could be posted back. He's like why should not embarrassed fan for stops? You know what he's right I think make a great point. And, that's why you need stamps dot com. But seriously he is one thing is out thing about what he's saying about. I mean look to say that he's the most overrated player. What however it was phrased that I. Guess if you still view Devon to hey the best goalkeeper in the Premier League. Then sure is overrated because he's no longer that. Is another one of these guys that we talk about where you just wonder like ironically enough? Eric dire with Tottenham You just wonder if maybe Manchester United miss their their moment where they could have sold him, it would have been difficult decision at the time, but for what they would have made, and for where his career may have been headed. Like it's just hard to know, it's hard to know. When is the right time to sell a guy and I it's easy to sit here now and you know play Monday, morning quarterback and say that when when Real Madrid ready to come in and make him the most expensive goalkeeper in the world. They should have pulled the trigger. It's just tough to noman. Detail was player of the year for united two years in a role which definitely you know kind of elevated status. He's been in a slump for a while now, but as has the team really. Doesn't help that. The understudy is down the road at Sheffield united playing as well as he is Dean Henderson and Maybe he needs someone. Challenge am hired behind our. Maybe it's time to give Romero a bit of a ronin goals I don't know, but for he is. Like. Andrew Dice was basic save. That's something you should. That's ball. You should save when it's coleman straight through like that. But he's making, it's not like he still makes good saves. Tip The header from San that he tipped over the bar. It's more that he's. He's making these errors, and they seem like lapses in concentration, and he seems a lot like the goalkeeper that was signed under Sir Alex Ferguson, where Gary Neville thought he'd never make it. Neville thinks he's in a slump and she'll be moved on I'm not so sure. I think I think sought. Sought shower is going with this one. I would a little bit longer and try and work with them. to improve them I. Don't think he's going anywhere yet, but it is a nice safety net to be able to recall Dean Henderson down the road. Should things get a very very bad henderson by the way who his contract was extended for the remainder of the season? As you would, as you would have expected to be the case out one note on the Tottenham side of this. Paul Merson skysports. He spoke about Harry Kane and Look I love hurricane. He was invisible in this game it, you know it is what it is. can't touch the ball just thirty six times total, not once in the Manchester United. Penalty area attempted one shot. It was blocked. He looked tired. It was his first appearance in what like six months? And Paul Merson than says this guy can't succeed in Josie Marino system. He's not going to be getting his twenty five to thirty goals like what we've expected from. Hurricane and Kane is gonNA. WanNa leave. My instinct when I heard, that is kind of what I was just saying. Look who? Will bear out to be true, but to choose this moment. I think to make that judgment I think is wildly unfair like I just said you know. It's been six months for this guy and I don't know what his training. Reginald was over the course of the quarantine. It's not gonNA. Happen for you'RE NOT GONNA. Snap your fingers in back to the hurricane that was putting in thirty goals in past seasons. Look and what he scored seven, his first ten I think under Marino so to say that it's just not going to happen for playing in the system. Like I said maybe that will wind up being true, but to to choose this moment as the moment where you're going to make that decision just not as wrong. It's not fair to Marino or Cain. It's just it's inaccurate MMA thankfully Marino decided that he would come back and list all the players that have succeeded under his all the strikers that have done well under his tutelage, and got older, not all of them, but got some of their goalscoring records wrong. He he made said drug scored a hundred and eighty six goals from I mean he made the classic mistake of Confusing appearances? All's with appearance. Yeah I mean he scored, but you know his point is well taken. Yeah, make fun of it, but like there there are plenty of strikers have not just played well, but thrive. Like had the best years of their career playing under Josie. Some of those were a decade ago. You're right. It's worth noting that. But but but I don't believe it. I actually do believe Ken Score. In the system Marino plays I do think there needs to be more structure to that counter. There needs to be more structure after they've done the good stuff, the compact stuff the closing down to sitting deep the low block when they get it. They've got to be more constructive. There has to be patterns of play and I haven't seen them yet. You're right, and it's total. It's a fair criticism and we're kind of like going back now. I really feel like we're back into the into the premier league. If you and I are going to be talking about jobs Marino, it's great I feel alive feels like it feels like February again. To move. The only thing I wanted to say about that. Is that like that's for the people who want to rip Josie Marino for that exact criticism, which is a valid one all I would say is watch their final year under Pochettino. It's no different, so whether that means the players have. Kinda gone stale or JOE's. Marino needs to just get in his guys who know his system I? Don't know but It's not just a manager problem. A couple other things here talking about the top four. Put It on the run down. I wonder what you think about it that to me. It felt like odometer IRA did a Christian Pulisic for wolves. He was so so good Andrew I comes on. He just changes. What was a game? I, think I have watched. You know when you're watching a really boring film and you're like I can't do this anymore. And you switch it off I was so close with West Ham and wolves to just an forget it. I only watched the second half of the game. Apparently, the first half was even worse and troy. It comes on. The first goal is really interesting to me because at the Jimenez Gold because as quick as Troy Ori is as good as his feet are. It's the striking. Of the of the cross the way he delivers the cross that's really become so consistent for him. He Andrew. He puts it in that area. Pinpoint every single time very backlift, not elaborate cross of the ball. He gets it in there with like almost a flick of his boot, and he did it a couple of minutes before on him, and has just didn't happen to be there. He repeats the Trick Score, but but nets gold. You had just everything that's good about wolves in neat little package you had. Troyer is quick feet to work his way through I. Think it was Pasta and rice and and another west. Ham midfielder gets the ball out wide then to Dartey. Who? The perfect weight on the Cross and nasal with a full volley straight into the roof of the net dot goal, Andrew was worth watching absolute diarrhea of an hour of the game of football for. That's beautiful. You really are wordsmith. Sheffield United Bit of a nightmare. Start the the three delegates Newcastle. The Red card happens it all falls apart for them. That's one thing, but. The the goal line decision in the first game back against Aston Villa. I feel like it has it has shaken my world I? Don't know what to believe anymore we can. All we can debate till the cows come home, the the merits or the the awful elements of our, but the one thing that we could all agree on was that goalline technology was a gift from the heavens and I I no longer i. no longer know what to believe this is this is changed me i. Cynical now I I'm different. After someone someone tweeted that. Yeah, we could use fire for this goal. Yeah, we could used the goal line, technology or Michael Oliver could have seen the goalkeeper using the next like a hammock. To have known that the ball went into the net. Look if we're going to have this bloody thing in football, the watch doesn't work and so vire stock repack can intervene. They can say you can look at this, but they didn't because the watch didn't work. Out of our purview. As. It's like if it's like if my house is on fire right now. And, a police officer was walking by, and you could see the flames, and I shout down to him plays help I need some help. I need to be saved and the police officer went. Well. That's that's really the fire departments area, right or like he just he couldn't do it because he hadn't actually gotten communication from the bachelor. Well. I haven't heard from the dispatch that there is just such it would never happen. What is this nonsense? So that was very straightened, but but to move onto the weekend's Game Sheffield. United are a shadow of the team. They were there so sloppy. Some of their top performers like John Egan. Getting sent off for that whole thing with Jillian, on was just stupid I. Even though I'm not sure the second one was a yellow, but the first one is pushing him to get a cheap yet over that and then Stevens one of their most solid performers. The ball is coming across and he just gets his legs in a mess. And the next thing the walls in the back of the net. Part of that was good. Newcastle Good Miguel Mirani. Look good. He settled Lynton, school, but also another part of that was Sheffield United. I mean they. They are just wishing that they can find a way back to their to their their previous form. They, the restarts not been good for them now we'll see if they're able to steady themselves. N N J? J. Crystal, Palace and Roy Hodgson is kind of kind of forcing us to to take this Champions League. Run somewhat seriously. They have just one fewer win than Manchester United this season we ask. And I. If I were to tell you that you would think well, we'll fridge CZAJA's probably the best player in the League right now. He hasn't even really been. As Lights Out Izawa that we've come to know overpasses, although he. He was pretty good at the weekend is. He should scored himself, and he set heap. He started the the move for the goal because he held onto the ball and then von Arnhold. Overlap and he plays into all you and buries. It was a really nice goal. Add Jurgen Klopp hit them the Best Compliment that were really oiled while running machine right now and they are. They're playing superbly while. Can you talk about Boreham of quickly? Sure Andrew Roy. Phase are running down. HIS CONTRACT WON'T RESIGN FOR NEXT SEASON SO Eddie House says Nope, that's it you're done. You won't play again for us. That to me is a crazy decision at Ryan Fraser. Fraser was bought from Aberdeen by Bournemouth, and what happened. He ran down his contract at Aberdeen to get to bore Muth born. Mich should have had a bit of foresight on this, and said look. He's under contract to us now. Let's play him and get the most out of them and I know. He said he wasn't putting in a full shift. Thankful I was about to say that I know. He said he wasn't putting in a full shift beforehand bought. Honestly like you can't limit yourself like this in the absolute dire straits that they are in and it. Was He even helping them? I, and what and who knows I'm sure. The locker room has I gotta believe that people in that room have turned on fraser if he's getting my own, I don't WanNa. Be here next but Andrew if you put it in these Terms Ryan. Fraser listen if you WANNA your move. Here's a nice window to show what you can do and get your move wherever you want your leave and we accept. Accept that, but like he doesn't plan these nine games, and he's got this whole comment that he where he wasn't putting in shift in the previous, pirated the season hanging over him I. Mean if you're another job, are you really going to want that? It's the chance for him to to reset things another another look at what he did. The last couple of seasons and they'll trick themselves, maybe Won't do that. You Know He. He won't be that bad apple for us. real quick. The bottom of the table I did want to just mention obviously talked about Brighton I think they come out as big winners here for the how the restart has gone for them, but also wofford salvaging a big point against Leicester City. What an incredible finish to that game! Then show wells goal was amazing, and then topped by Craig Dawson's bicycle kick in front of net to equalize. That was thrilling final five minutes that game. Yeah, and again You could see Brennan Rogers face the disappointment. This is not a good run that has traversed the covid nineteen brick. They're in good form right now. What? He would really have would have been expecting them to hold onto that one, but what a great goal by Dawson! What a brilliant goal! I ask thinks Michael will be upset with himself got quite a bit of a hand on it, but it was just so close in. I guess he couldn't keep it out with the power. That's about it for our look at the Premier League right now. The Games are just coming so thick and fast I feel like we could do a podcast every day. If we wanted to but we'll continue obviously just cover the hell out of this 'cause i. don't care what people say. The Games file okay fine. They were crap I loved watching him so whatever over this weekend. Jj, we said when Liliya restarted that we felt there would be twists and turns at the top of the table. Now we already have our first twist Barcelona they draw nil, nil row Madrid get a win, and so they now go top of the table Of their own the tiebreaker against Barcelona, Kareem Benza, what goal he scored this hundred and sixty fifth for the club. Muslim in the sole play, sole possession of fifth-place all time on Real Madrid, scoring less ahead of Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez. So Madrid top right now. He's be brilliant since the since the Restart Bash Day had three shots on target I think against Soviet severe defended really well. They started breath, braithwaite, messy and Suarez Upfront which I suppose. All right I guess bracelets earned his starting spot there, but it just didn't seem to work Suarez at a really good chance at the end, and he's fired it over on the half volley, but honestly severe were relatively as comfortable as you can be against the Barcelona team with Messi in day. They were pretty comfortable an in Germany couple of things I wanted to mention. Obviously we didn't get the chance to mention last week. Fire Munich they've done it. Their champions eighth straight season from the time. The restart began even before we talked about how hot they were coming in. To the the break This was this was. There's lose. We said that when the we did our Bundesliga preview or part to preview kind thing. And sure enough. They have been clinical Borussia Dortmund. They will be second place in the Bundesliga. What a erling Haaland again two more goals for Dortmund, but what an assist from the other American kid, the other boy wonder, even more boy boy wonder Geoana with beautiful touch pastor to Jalan while we have to get back in studio. One reason we need to get back and studios to create the American Dream Drop. Holland had given him the nickname and I think I think it works. I think I'm. GonNa go with. He's the American Dream Andrew. Just to take it in stride like that. was just perfect, open out his body, his left foot, and just let it caress the site of his boot. Put it into highlands path, and you knew the net was going to Russell was actually a very mature performance. 'cause you know what Borussia Dortmund away at Leipzig. Perform but they were good and pretty comfortable to be honest with you. And then by the way I wanted to mention also Chris Richards made his debut for by Munich's first team. He's the first player to play for buying Munich. In the Bundesliga since Landon Donovan Versa American did I say American. Well whatever that's. That's what happened. Last feel good about Oh yeah lots to feel good about as you mangle your way through that twenty twenty six jj I can feel it will still be doing the podcast and twenty twenty six. We will be doing it live from every single venue on the road to glory I think we'll still be in quarantine. Stop so negative. Come on, come on. Let's see what a beautiful mailbag! We have to close with them really excited, but before we do that though We had news that we want that. We need to mention about the NWS. L. Actually I want to do that before the mail bags. against. The news is that. We, didn't we thought we were going to get a flood of team rosters today? We thought we were going to discover a lot about what's forthcoming. At the weekend. It was supposed to kick off on Saturday with the Orlando Pride playing Chicago Red Stars. On Monday afternoon, the athletic reports the Orlando. Pride announced that the entire team will be forced to withdraw from the upcoming NWS l.. Challenge Cup Ju to multiple positive. Covert test results among players and staff skipping on hair, little bit, but sources tell the Atlantic that multiple players visited a buyer and Orlando the prompted the additional testing which ultimately led to the first positive test. Positive result buyers. Another establishments were opened earlier this month in Florida, so we are waiting to really hear what's going to happen now how it's going to be re constituted what? It's GonNa, look like. And as we go to record right now, we don't really have very much information. We know Carli Lloyd has ruled herself out of the tournament. She's picked up an injury and will not play, so she adds herself to the list of US women's national team players. That won't plan this. It's in times like this. When I see the Orlando, pride story that I. The only analysis I can conjure up comes from that of Joe Girardi, Jj. I, know what you're gonNA. Say once together. Three to one. What you want. It's not going on. The, the most important thing is. Everybody can pass their own judgments or how they feel about these players going to a bar before this tournament kicks off, I mean personally I'd say it's. On this. Has Anyone get out of this house right now? But like you're about to take your about to take part in this tournament like. This is just not the time to be acting recklessly and like. Let's call it what it is. Florida's in the middle of this terrible spike right now this virus. It's reckless. So. But I hope they're all okay, first and foremost. Obviously, what matters most will Meglena. WHO's all over this great? Follow at its Meghna. Hang on twitter, She saying are reporting rather that. Sources telling. At MLS which is Pablo Mar that there's an NWS lead call for all players tomorrow to discuss the changes to the challenge. Cup schedule looks like preliminary round will now be three games for each team two groups of four teams. So look. We have nothing more to report at this point. We I thought we'd have more to say it. We don't only that you know. We wish the best for their recovery. All Right Mele busy yeah. Caught off site, pottage mail, dot, com on the interwebs for the email, and ask you a soccer pod and caught up side. ESPN on Instagram Lots of you got in touch to let us know about. Your favorite dropped from the shore that you're missing because we don't have access to our library right now, Andrew the Donna drop. Was the most popular, and I would save followed by all its scrap. That's bloody, rubbish rubbish! which chat featured strongly, and we even had a show for our Henry Kissinger drop. Oh God. That is such a good one I miss it I miss early. The United States has stadiums. Speaking of Maradonna I wanted to mention something. It's you know what today is is. The thirty four, th anniversary of his hand of God game against England. Yeah, that's exactly right. There you have it. We were in studio right now. You can be damn sure you would be hearing him mumbling. Alon never fails Jackie Choi. I think my favorite question. Yes, I know you guys tried to be nice to Wando. But are there any other players you can think of who have been defined by one moment like Wando against Belgium in two thousand fourteen. Can I go I sure I have three Oh. I just picked one. It's a role reversal. G. That the one you pick is within it has to be one of my three. Okay. This guy was a world player of the year going into the nineteen ninety four World Cup finals in the United States. He was utterly brilliant, after Italy lost the Republic of Ireland and made a slow start from then on, he was magnificent, scored five goals in the tournament, made the tournament of the team of the tournament, but he skied the the not the penalty, the last penalty against Brazil in the final in Pasadena, he hit so high over the bar. It's probably still traveling Roberto Basualdo. What he had an own believe be good career. He was a brilliant player and yet I reckon when I say Roberto Baio to money people. That's the first thing they think of the penalty mace to give Brazil the World Cup. I have to hear ultimately. They're both wrong, but. These are guys who may be the biggest moments of their career were so horribly negative. It doesn't define them, but you'll see what I mean okay. Jj I felt like I needed to throw John Terry in there for slipping and falling on what would have been the winning penalty of Champions League final against Manchester. United definitely a big moment in his career defining. You're right like I said he such a great player. Right from that at that moment alone couldn't define his career. But it was probably the biggest single moment he could. He literally it was there for him to win. The keeper dove. The vendors are dove the wrong way Yeah Antares slipped and fell and put it. Why and then the last one I have is if you thought that was wrong, this is even more wrong. However, like I said does not define his career, Jj if we asked one hundred people right now. To name one famous moment that involves Indians the Dan I guarantee you. Ninety of them would say the headbutted Marco Materazzi in the world, Cup final which is. It's unfair because he's greatest players ever like. If you made a list of your ten greatest players, he very well might be on that list, and in his in his second act as a manager. He's been great at real. Madrid, but God the power of that moment was such. that. You do something in the World Cup final. It's immortal. Yeah, it's there forever. So there, you go I. Think those are from Jackie Choi. From Jackie. Oh. Look who it is. Andrew it's Alex Jones from Colorado. Is this Real Alex? Jones Yeah not the Alex Jones I wouldn't entertain email from him. Assume that you'll read it in that voice will Andrew Gambling. Is He's? He runs a false flag podcast. This podcast is. Being run by the Chinese Diana. Setup the military. Industrial Complex while our. To enjoy that was that was at the email that Alex sent. No this is nice. Alex Stone, oh I watched the recommended documentary last night, an impossible job about grim Taylor where they had inside access to follow him when they failed to qualify when England failed to qualify for. USA Ninety four I had one man question. Is it common for the assistance to simply sit there and nod in agreement with everything the manager says and not provide provide counterpoint tactical adjustments. The whole time watching. It seemed like there was very little in terms of coaching going on from England bench. Well actually Alex became one. The man features of this expose. When it went out onto television over twenty five years ago, people were like laughing at assistant manager Phil Neal so Graham Taylor Andrew would want to make a change. Say He wants to get you in right on so ted or go. Yeah, I think we need to get Ian Riot on, and then we'll go. Yeah should get righty on now. Lee Dixon Lee Li late late goal f back, go back and then feeling legally. Go left. Go Back! This was such a parody Andrew, and it became such thing that there is a film available on prime in these United States that I now recommend everybody should watch. It's called Mike Bassett England manager. And it basically. It's a spoof of that whole thing. Mike Bassett is like a second division manager at Norwich, and he gets given this poisoned chalice of the England job, and he's got a yes man, just like Phil Neal as assistant coach. It's one it might be the funniest football. The most quotable football movie soccer movie that's ever been made I like Amazon prime. Mike Bassett England manager. It's so good. I like that who I think of when I was reading that email. Maybe, a little bit unfair, but I felt like every time they would show the Louis. Van Hall Manchester United. Bench were Kinda getting the same thing from Ryan Giggs. Kind of a shoulder shrug in a head nod remember. He punched him. So. United scored and. Like yes, we will make the second place, and he's pumping his fists, and he turns around and gigs. He gives us a pretty STOIC character. Anyway he turns around and he's not happy with Gigs stony-faced, and so he punched him in the shoulder. Yeah Yeah Mike Bassett England manager. Recommend that highly enough as Scott. Rasmussen wonder if you saw Bruce Arena's comments on the national anthem I thought this longtime. It makes sense during Olympics or World Cup, but have never understood the need to play the anthem before every sporting event thoughts, so you're going to bring this up at an hour and ten minutes into the podcast like I. Feel like this could be its own podcast. I know I. Know Well just say what Bruce said. A question where we're playing the anthem professional sporting events in our country, it puts people in Awkward Positions. We don't use the anthem in movie theaters Broadway. Events in the US I don't think it's appropriate to have a national anthem before baseball. Game Arnhem, Alaska and mls most of the pair stunning the food during the national anthem, our international players. They aren't even American soya replaying the national anthem. I'm honored to represent the United. States in World Cups and international matches I think playing the national anthem is clearly appropriate at those levels. It's of one of those things because you just grow up with it, and it's because it's the way that it's always been you just you. Kinda can't imagine sporting events without it is so ingrained in. In like what game is, this is how the game starts the national anthem. But when you do, stop and think about it. There is kind of pardon me. That's like yeah. Why like why do they? Not I don't I don't know if it's right to do it if we shouldn't do it, but. I do think that you can make the argument that it is. It is odd it is a little bit unusual. It's been done for almost one hundred years in baseball. since I think afterward war one. are in around that era. Someone can correct me on this but I just don't think it's particularly respectful. And in the current climate right now I'm not sure it's particularly necessary. Are Hopeful will be called necessary and helpful because of what it's being at least how I feel about it, because kind of the the vessel. That's being used to help improve. So? Yeah, yeah, I suppose it's your opportunity to for peaceful and dignified protests, the national anthem I don't know I'm not sure about it I. I will say I come from a culture underwear before every GE league match interestingly, not soccer before every g a league match because the Gaelic Athletic. Association was such a bastion virus nationalism. They play the Irish anthem. And sometimes it's on A. It's like they don't have a band to play. Play on a dreadful like tape, and it's crackly some Tannoy Informatica, so yeah now. My favorite would be I used to. Broadcast a lot of like high school football games in the area and at these stadiums. Sometimes they wouldn't have a lot of times. These schools will send out the choir to sing it, but sometimes they wouldn't do that like you said they would just hold up a tape recorder to the microphone, but it would be like it wouldn't just be generic national anthem. They would do that of like Whitney Houston's famous super bowl national anthem. Little High School field being played from a tape cassette onto a microphone. I was like this is not coming off the way you think just. No, no, yeah. I, I've also seen a guy. Absolutely loaded with Beers and chili dogs at city field. Suddenly stop on his descent to the seats for the national anthem. In stopping the guy behind him wasn't looking. He walks into him and the guy cascades down three steps with his beer. Dogs going everywhere just as the rockets red glare hotdogs everywhere so. I don't know Yeah I. Don't know I. Don't know either I mean sometimes what you know. Sometimes it's it's great and I see players react to it. Motion Oh my God for International Games I. Really Get it. I don't understand it. Maybe there's something to be said for every single game. Maybe it's not necessary. I don't know I actually don't have an answer to that, but I'm saying. I. Guess my basic point. Is that when Bruce Arena says something? That's a little bit out there. There's sometimes. There's this like instinct from American soccer twitter to rip it, and under saying this is one that I wouldn't necessarily vilify him for having this opinion. No me neither and Kaya Hey Andrew and JJ. My name is guy contacting you. Because my brother Brandon is a football player and one of the biggest fans of your podcast. He Turns Fourteen on the twenty eighth of June. This is Sunday and because of Covid, we can't be together for his first birthday this year. Terrible I was wondering. If there's anything you guys might be able to say either. In an episode are in the video that it could present him as a gift, he is literally made everyone in the family subscribe to caught offside, and he quizzes us on certain episodes to make sure we listened. Almost I love inside. Brandon, Happy Birthday Brandon. Brandon Happy Birthday and I love that you are not just supporting the PODCAST, but you're enforcing listening to the podcast. I feel bad now that this was so deep. into the PODCAST. I hope he makes it although if he's. You know. That's silly mate if he's he's Kaya says he's like our biggest fan, so of course he's here till the end listening brand new. Have have a great one man. And he goes at the mail bag. that is the mailbag Andrew Actually. It's not the mailbag Oh my. There's one thing quickly I'll do it quickly all right okay very very quickly. This was sent to us by a number of you. It's an amazing thread by Slava Mahmoud. So the Russian Premier, League has restarted today and holy crap did restart with an enormous, an enormously stupid scandal. An entire team got infected. The team is FC Rostov who was scheduled to play against FC socially today. Somehow they fail to buy the quarantine measure. Someone caught the virus by the time they're restart. Training camp was over that spread through the entire roster. What happened next Rostov or battling for place in the UEFA Champions League petition sought to reschedule the match Soichi. A bottom feeder is actually a thinly disguised farm team to Zenit Saint Petersburg team owned by Putin's cronies. Cronies and guaranteed to win the title this year, so SC SOCI- basically came out and said screw you. This is your problem were not rescheduling. The League utterly dropped the ball and allowed all this to happen. So Rostov was left to figure out what to do what they had decided to do. And this was on Friday, the kids and they are actually kids. The oldest is nineteen. The youngest is sixteen all the word three days ago. None of them practice since match basically just going to school via zoom all this time, so they got together traveled associate to play against. Professionals. The country went ballistic. were castigated on social media to which they responded with an Instagram Post, showing a sad looking schoolboy, the Post said. Hey, we're all school buys at one time. The field is even the ball is round. Let's play. What Score this game. It was four one at halftime. It was seven one towards the end. Alexander Corcoran scored a hat trick. He. Was He recently don't time for viciously attacking a man in a cafe and beating him up with a chair and he's playing against these children. While scored a goal. They did get a goal, right? That's something my guy. What their objective of qualifying for Europe, but. The CARINTHIAN Spurs is alive in Saudi. Can you imagine that phone call straight to Putin's office have Ladimir. Does a team that needs to be. We got to give them this game. Crush them. If, they die, they die. Man There you go what podcast? This was this? We'll be back next week more likely than not. We will be discussing Liverpool's. First title in the League in thirty years. That is probably what is on the horizon. Among many other things race for the top four relegation. We'll see what developments happened with wwl and LS is getting closer to starting also by the way Jj. This coming weekend is the wedding. My sister's wedding that on the officiating. I'm in the early stages I'm still trying to map out like how this all works I think what I'm realizing. Is that I? have been to tons of weddings in my life and yet apparently I didn't pay an ounce of attention. Any ceremony because I. Don't know what to do. Wow, but this is a. To Be Small Cermony right? Yeah, because. They can't have a wedding that they were planning on having, but they still want to just get married now. We'll do a party later. So it's going to be a very small ceremony I want. I I. I don't know I have to get on this because it's. It's very very soon I wanNA. Make everybody is my goal is make. Everyone is uncomfortable as possible I want to just start it with like dearly beloved. Let's go around the room right now in say who were voting for. As uncomfortable for everyone is possible. Oh, drink, just get horrendously drunk the night before and be stupidly. Hang Hung over a little bit drunk officiating by the way they've got to give you their vows. So. Yeah, they're gonNA. Read their own vows What are you worried about? Your making a face furrow unique unique. You need to prove the vows. No, I don't. Right in the middle of it when the guy reading his. If it gets really Moshe, you should just whisper under Your Voice Oh Jesus Christ just like that. You should say God is just wet blanket. Really Marion my sister. While you know how it goes next week. I'll be able to full excited the very best of them the very best yet, Hey, this was man to you. I. Say check native. Via. You've been listening to. US caught offside soccer five gassed.

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Caught Offside: Yet Another Squirrel

"Caught offside with every gummy and JJ Abani. Oh yes offside aside from the upper west side of Manhattan and gunman and JJ. Davani what's up running. I usually start in some kind of upbeat fashion. I just need to get some stuff off my chest. I well first of all I know why you might be down. I've had it with sports. I'm good with the whole bovine. Shocking feud is good with all of it so we see I mean let's start with a lesser. The union were beaten by the rebels. It's annoying but they're still in a good spot spurs horrific loss which want pick one yep well we'll start with tonight's against Colchester on penalties and then the weekends debacle horrifying against tremendous character and then the eagles one of the I can't even describe my anger when that game ended ended how you're still vilis also eliminated from postseason contention today. We're all coming at once for you. I've had it. I've live had to watch sports anymore cannot happen to you oh. Jesus Sunday evening soccer match in in New Jersey traveling for game at four PM perfect 'cause you're gonna hit the last of the shore traffic. It was a beautiful day so everyone's down the shore go back home to Brooklyn Staten. Night and you're GONNA hit all the traffic but whatever last minute of the game chasing the game I'm running down the line and this field is right beside Kean University and it's very narrow field Phil Rizzuto Park so uh-huh sprinting down the line and I'm real. I'm running along. There is a minute left in the game and as I'm running owning down the line instead of being conscious of the defender who's coming across from the center back position to clean me out of it. Take Ball nine in all and destroy my right leg. Oh boy I noticed that. There's a group of kids on the sideline and if you know this park there's the sideline and then under literally defense and Bleach. There's nothing like you end up in the bleachers. Very easily in this field am running down kids sitting on the beach. I'm one of them's got. The heel of his bike is out. I'm running along the touchline and I'm sprinting like and I'm like I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Crash into this kid so I move a little a bit and the next thing because kind of focused on that I my peripheral vision off on the right hand side buying this Lomax Bovine Lomas at centre-back comes out and cleans me into the air and he he I get up like tried to get up and all I can here is my manager who is a lovely sweet. Guy Norwegian Guy John on the sideline I'm writing and paying underground think five after the his who was it hit him in in the NFC championship game two thousand and nine when he does this home blade humbled mess this this vision this ghost of a former QB trying to strap it on one more time and get out there and just produce trying to put the helmet on one more time this is me much less talented like crumpled mass on the sideline and all I can hear IAGO's can you can you take the corner. Oh no so I can't. I'm literally elite. The game's pretty much over its Alaska game on Thomas Takes the corner dissenter maiden games or was the final two one and I just have you've a hissy fit on the ground. I'm laying there on a pull my Shin Guard which has been spun round twice in my sock from this guy. I throw it on the ground. He comes comes over to say like a gut the ball and I start Paul. He wouldn't even apologize as well I I wasn't. I wasn't in the mood for anything I'm screaming. I'm I'm like just like pound in the ground. I'm I'm in pain. There's a lump on my. I'm does a lump of machine. My knees start despite up his well. He only bought bought ways. I'm just done. I'm just like why am I here. Why is this thing that gives me so much. Joy has given me so much pain and I I I wanted to cry and I'm hobbling down the sideline and the teenagers that are there with their bikes and they're like half laughing half confused as the watts happened. There's just sitting there watching the game. You made a scene so I'm like. I turned round. I'm looking to verbally abuse kids you know but they were like sixteen or seventeen fifty. Well I turn around and ask for you clint. Everyone have it. If there was a guy selling Nachos you would have run over and smashed out of his fight. It was a full blown down. I just I had it. I I have had it and I'm hobbling Manhattan for the last two days. I just don I mean this. PODCAST is my moment of joy. This is modify why I like and it's usually defines that vent to us in the mail bag and we lose it with Dan rather than I if I'm off my game tonight it's because I'm done. It's all over. It's finished everything you're fifty three. You'll be fifty four. You don't need this anymore no but I'd like to keep playing for you suggest but I am in the twilight of those playing years and I'd like to play a few more without being just like when you say you're done like this. You remember this happened to me with basketball years ago. When I was playing in a league and I- similar things I was like so sore after every game and I wasn't playing well anymore and it was like ah getting home from Queens to Westchester at like one in the morning and I finally just got this is supposed to be fun and it's just stop. I just stopped. I haven't really played in off sad because I love it but is this. Are you having that same moment. No the last two games I've really enjoyed an applete wider and it just it was just just everything came together on so what's the diagnosis he's here. We what do you think I I don't. I think I've let me put roll up the pant. Let me take a look absolutely. Not I show you afterwards. The Sheen is black and blue but I'm not worried what about that. It's more don't decided my knee and I've been under the knife several times for my niece well well. Hey what a show where to have for your worldly seven minutes in and haven't even mentioned a word hurdle my God just yet so much to get to to be totally honest. I I have like the rundown here with with the order of things that we're gonNA talk about. I'll defer to you now like I don't WanNa be. spurs the Andy Okay but save David. I moved up no okay. Don't don't move to the rundown. Our poll is first. We must adhere to it. No let's let's let's glide through. Liverpool because it's more Chelsea Elsie than it is about Liverpool. I would think in to start. Let's for me but we'll talk about actually all right fine. You know what let's stop having having a of a pre show meeting on the air. Let's do it. Tottenham loss to Colchester. You know what fine we'll get to that when when we get there we'll start though with We'll take a look at stuff that happened over the weekend Liverpool. They just keep winning. This machine just will not stop churning out WS I wanted to just kind of ask you this. This is like like one of those kind of like from thirty thousand feet tech questions this Liverpool team right now better worse or same as last year's team. Ted's as good as last year here with the caveat that it's really so early in the season and the big challenges presented in the League have been arsenal poor and Chelsea week fifteen wins in a roll so Andrew I know with that's across the summer which I don't generally like to do I'm winning this fixture at the weekend at Stanford Bridge was was interesting to me. They grown daughter result. I wasn't entirely happy with the performance. Look at the corresponding fixture last season. Look Good Saris Chelsea. Were look how relieved I was it full time I mean Liverpool Miss Chances in that game shore but they could easily have lost that game. It took a wonderful from storage. They're as good and I would say I wouldn't say better all right so there is good as they are last season. If that's without without really tasting a tough tough team outside of the champion Sake the thing that I appreciate it about Liverpool in this game and this isn't necessarily unique to this game but on the road against the tough opponent difficult place to play and their your ability to find goals like goals are not always. GonNa Happen when you're Liverpool and you've got that front three you know even though it seems in our head like they can just glide side through games and score goals it will in a tough game against Chelsea. It's just not GonNa Happen and so you have to take advantage of your opportunities and sure enough to set pieces two goals too clever ever too clever set-pieces. The first one was excellent use of the new rule. You can't stand in the wall anymore. You have to if there's if it's more than two memorial you can't stand next do it so you've got to do something different so Liverpool brought their defenders forward the requisite yard and they play it as kind of screen it was a clever backheel as well and a grit strike by Trent Alexander Arnold and the second goal. That little roll moves the defense. No the defending is I mean I was America's. Alonzo was supposed to be picking up bobby for me. No I don't no but the defending was shocking but you're right they grow they got two goals from from set-pieces on a little bit concerned with the way that they they're genuinely seem to be whether it was it didn't appear to come from KLOPP. I mean let's be honest. The referee was trying to get Liverpool to move it along whereas the players air seemed to be Su- subconsciously they were tired and that was transforming itself into a slowing down. What are the player. Does I mean I'm looking at the clock and it's like the fifty third minute and and I'm thinking you're Liverpool your time-wasting already. Come on guys. We can only put that down to the weekend to the weeks exertions. Maybe put you know so but whatever game management whatever you want to call it it was it was comfortable to be honest with you and I know at the end may simone coulda pulled something output but they didn't and that's it. I mean they had taken away for Avar Decision Liverpool by the way on the the topic of set-pieces they've scored thirty four goals from set-piece situations dating back to the start of last season that is seven more than any other club in the top flight in England and klopp openly admits that they work on it. They can tell serious effort into it. You remember the Newcastle Look how confident they are in in changing changing and tweaking on the field remember Newcastle last season the winning goal from debak. Y- where Virgil Van Dyke says changes it from a who was it he told Shuki to take it. Yeah that's right. It was supposed to be an outswinger and then they went inswinger so confident. That's they know their set-piece production yeah now now. Let's move over to Chelsea side of this because you're right. There is a lot of intrigue about. I just find this Chelsea team. In general so interesting like during the broadcast they highlighted the the number of players for this Chelsea side that came up through some sort of whether it be under eighteen or all the way down to under eight's like this is not. I was GONNA say this. Isn't your father's Chelsea. This isn't your older brothers Chelsea. This is crazy to to think that Chelsea are are doing this but I kind of enjoy it now. Here's something that Josie Marino said afterwards which I'm conflicted on how I feel about it and I I wanna get your thoughts because maybe you can help me. Marino said this this when you start accepting defeats just because you're team played well and just because you're players gave their best performance for people to be proud of. I think when you get used to it that's when when big clubs stopped being big clubs. Wow what do you think of that. I think it's easy to look at it on the face of it and say that that's harsh but there is a truth in it and it was a a really good response from Marino to a strange situation Chelsea of two wins and six in the League Andrew a two wins and eight in all competitions. Only charge and Wofford have conceded more goals but the era of good feelings is never ending for Rampart. we said that. Lampard's legendary status this post the academy graduates would be this like blanket to keep to protect him from from criticism but if you look at this team from twelve months ago under siree three on the way they performed. This team has regressed. I don't care about the academy graduates. This is not as good a team last season. This is not as learned a manager is obviously not he doesn't have Twenty Years Sarah's twenty years lampert has two and there's there's a whole lot of other factors going into it as well. Kennedy outlined how teams that generally put a lot of academy graduates into their sides sides. Don't do well in the Premier League era. No some people talk about the class ninety two yeah right but they had Bruce Pallister and keen and Irwin an insult inside all those guys that were bought in those were young players that blossomed in a pre existing skeleton of a team now. You're trying to do different things now. It's all right to say well. They've got accounted. They've got they've got one okay they do but I think generally speaking there is a regression in Chelsea. There's there's a regression off the field. We I keep saying that not just the transfer by but the general interest of Roman Abramovich Jewish visa issue has kind of pulled him apart from the club a bit and they're not what they were so we're looking at a new context for what Frank Lampard is going to achieve Marino's right Chelsea. Chelsea don't feel right now like a big club. They don't even feel like how they felt. Twelve months ago. No and ultimately that is is all true but I mean facts are facts though like this is a club that lost Eden hazard a generational player for them and was unable to really replace him with anyone due to transfer yeah. They're they're starting like we said you team players in an effort to try to replace one of the greatest players in their club's history say what you want about you know like Gonzalo Eguaveon and his time Chelsea but like you are talking about an established you know international star and he's being replaced with like youth players Tammy Abraham and guys like that now Abraham is his productions been amazing but it's like. I don't know if there's GonNa be drop off. I just feel like transfer banner knauss while the transfer bond definitely as huge packed planet but I feel like Thursday. We need to recalibrate what we think of Chelsea. No I think we're we have come to the end of an era for them and I think the last real oh push and kick was going out and getting in goal Kante and winning in sixteen seventeen that was a real Chelsea power move of the early early days of Abramovich by the best player off the champions and go and win a league with the where the big. You know big name manager a now what we're seeing something very careful. You're hazard leaving certainly signifies the end of an era but I think what you're looking at is not the end of Chelsea. I think that you're you're watching Ching the the infancy of of some sort of Chelsea reboot and they will you know these players will turn into very good players and then they will go out and they will buy other very players. I think they'll be right back contending at some point Liverpool and Man City you know maybe not city 'cause that's another animal but Liverpool things will will settle players. Will we'll get older guys. Near rid and Chelsea can fill that void in the money world of the Premier League. There's always going to be the cash in the funds for Chelsea. We think think I'm not so sure though that this is. I think we're recalibrate not rebooting. I think we're well. We're GONNA see Chelsea more revert to what their mid nineties form wow. This is his mid to late nineties one because don't forget the revival of Chelsea started before a in certainly on the field started before Roman Abramovich. That's dot is fair they they were they were not money but they Gianluca Vialli as manager and they went to Jeffrey. CASULA was one of the best players in the League they did compete at the higher end of the table able in a sustained period so prior to Abramovich but I I see them going back to that rather than than anything interesting. we move on Jayjay you to Manchester City. They -solutely this is when we can. We can do pretty quick. They absolutely punished Waterford and I'm watching this game and I'm waving watch this though I'm watching the score change because I forget what game was on at the same time yeah there was a better game on story but I'm watching the score just just like it's five what what where were they when it was five. Were there any twenty minutes okay like and I'm thinking about what's happened with Norwich the week before with Manchester City and just how how much self mutilation must have gone on with pat and in training that week and much disguise guys relaxes water how much self hate must have gone through their heads and how angry they were at hearing the criticisms from people like from buffoons like me that the the League is over and it's been decided sided and JJ. I just kept thinking about one scene from family guy when Brian writes a play and and he thinks it's great and all this but it's it's not it's it's garbage in St Louis. Finally it stays play. That's right doesn't stay right and Brian claims it yeah and St Louis like tears into Brian for for ruining it and he so angry he runs outside. Does this your stink and your place stinks. This ain't about me is it. Oh Oh and I'm sorry but nobody can ever know that it's a squirrel he murders in enrage because he's so mad at himself and not I. I is the squirrel there the the poor unsuspecting squirrel and Manchester City was just this rage filled dog that had to take it out on somebody and and what just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and the same in the FA Cup when Juster City had secured secured the league and more or less secure the league and then there was this rage filled performance at Wembley that left everybody like you didn't accept us as champs as you said. Have we spent all sorts of money and that we bought the league now. Look what we've done. We've got A WE'RE GONNA burn down this this hundred year old competition ten at ground and the bet watt six now yeah so yeah so they've done this. They've just gone and done it again. What a whipping boy yeah that was all they said about that. we move on now. Jj to Tottenham you WanNa talk about end of eras which Chelsea. What are we thinking about the spurs right now so I I mean I was GonNa say we'll start with the weekend where they lose to Leicester in pretty demoralizing fashion and not in terms of the scoreline but just the way that game transpire yeah? I mean you think you've got it one and then you don't and not only do you now like you think okay well. Maybe we'll get out here. Withdraw Guess and then James Madison lines went up from thirty yards and beats Gazzaniga and it just that then leads leads into today that's on the heels of the Olympia coast to goal giveaway yeah and then like today on the heels of the lesser game now Tottenham Against Colchester a league two side and I had it on at work today and I'm telling you spurs again. It was kind of like the Newcastle game from earlier this season where it's just like feeble. They hit the post once in the second half but I can't even really off the top of my head recall that any other chances against a League two team now. I Know Colchester Crystal Palace. They've now won. Two Games in the tournament against Pearl excites on penalties but I mean and look I know Tottenham. They're not playing their plan troy parrot. They're going with kind of like a experimental back line. I don't care though like none of that should matter. You're still tottenham. There's still Deli Alley and son out there like th. There's no excuse there's absolutely no excuse and I just don't know where this leaves them. I I'm seeing things online and on twitter where we are talking like Tottenham fatalism where that side died of the fan base which I thought had been tucked away. It's exploded out and now it seems like people are are viewing this in the light of we're in Portugal Gino's final days and this is truly the end of an era you know I'm obsessed with the concept of winning time and I bring up endlessly on this podcast there there is a moment when you need to capture that that essence of a team unto turn it into trophies and spurs ars moment fees I get past that sixteen seventeen site was just in that sweet spot they were unlucky that they met a re a rejuvenated Chelsea Z. Under new manager with a new midfield and but if you look at that they finished second in the league that year and there was a couple of defeats and a couple of draws where you're like Yup I mean what was the stat that the number of points that they finished with that season would have been good enough to win the league in like nine of the previous fifteen seasons or something on I mean even in the in. What was it a six or seven point? Deficits like two wins and a trawler was really nothing and Miguel Delaney has good piece that he had okay two weeks ago to address spurs last major crisis on its fresh for this one too and he he talks about how even Alex Ferguson believed that teams need rejuvenation every four years and that actually have the quote. I didn't even know you're going to say that I had this year. Oh go ahead from Alex Ferguson because I remember hearing that and I looked it up. He did some interview with the Harvard Business Review or something like that and he said I believe that the cycle of successful team lasts maybe four years and then some changes needed. We tried to visualize the team three or four years ahead and make decisions accordingly and they did. I mean the the the you can plot the eras of of United under Alex Ferguson for twenty. Five years in the clear outs out of nowhere in the middle of the summer. You'd hear confesses gone. Robson has gone insist gone. You know there. Was this constant revival now in the modern game. There's no twenty five year. Terms doesn't appear to be anyway on Seoul. Is it the players that have gone stale a need to be moved on our is it the managers message that's gone stale or both both aren't originally here's the thing look. It's one thing when you're Sir Alex Ferguson and it's Manchester United you can do that because the power of Manchester United. You know we can move these players on because has look who's coming in like. Cristiano Renaldo is coming in Wayne Rooney like yeah. They're able to reload in that way. I know they built this new stadium and totten replying consistent champions really football but they ain't doing that. No Tottenham not going. They're just not going out and pillaging the transfer market for world class talent. It's not how they offered. The chance for your renewal may have been taken away. If by the focus on the stadium I did say that I have been on record as saying that this is a team that you'll be you know staying in the stadium that was in you know just just just holding onto the players that they had also bringing in new ones really beef the squad up and win a League and then talk about your stadiums and do all that it's just frustrating because it feels like like they're. They're about to make some kind of really big decision are there manager is yes. Something's GonNa seems done with the players. Do not think well. Oh He after the game tonight he made some pretty damning comments about this team he said he talked about. Tottenham being unsettled which we've heard rumblings of from guys like here in Tripoli after he left for Athletico Madrid but Pacino said we need time again to build that togetherness that you need when you're competing at this level. There's some kind of rift here he talks about this is a quote from him. There Tottenham needing to overcome quote different agendas in the squad like this is consistent pattern. No he was very unfairness. He broke the cycle of attacking the not attacking digs at sly digs at the players. Ah He broke that cycle at the weekend because he said we played really well against esther and I wasn't upset by performance but what was the previous game that Tottenham played because he Olympia Cosa they were up to nil and drew two. I think it was a previous League Crystal Palace which they won four nil well it was maybe was gonna be acas but or arsenal that they were up two goals and wound up to tinky regularly over the past few months has been more vocal in his displeasure with wate seeing in the locker room. That's not good. I'm just not I don't know I feel like I'm a little bit. I hate when I'm you know I'm very big with like wanting to be. I don't concerned myself a follower but I do like being part of a group like that communal feeling especially in the sport where like I don't know the connotation with a BA tribalism is part of soccer walker and it can be when it's used in the right ways. It can be a fun part. You feel like you're part of something so I hate when I feel like I'm falling on the outside outside of the way. My Fan base feels on a certain issue. I like falling in line on Tottenham related issues strength in numbers but I I'm just I'm. I'm not there yet with Pocchettino out. Whether that be those who feel he should just leave on his own volition or those who feel it's time. It's time for him to to be fired. I just I just I'm not there yet. I want to see this squad. Play for a little bit. This was an unsettled squad with Christian Erickson in and the European transfer window then you bring in Tangy and don delay and he kind of you know he plays at the beginning and it seems like he's good and then he gets hurt and Mrs Time like I kind of want to see him. Lasalle so comes in was supposed to help out and make an impact. He's now I kind of want. Let's just give you this chance. You want all the pieces to A. B. as one on the field for a few games for five six. Maybe even ten games under this manager. See how it is before we start. You're pulling the what is it the the parachute don't you just feel like that happens both for the for the better and worse in the sport where big decisions are are made in very emotional moments. I mean look at what's happened with Manchester United in Seoul Shire like he comes in. They get that classic new manager bounce next thing. You know everyone's feeling good. Let's hire him. Let's make them our manager. What are Manchester United now. They're right back where they were. This is a really highly emotional moment for Tottenham and I'm just afraid that that's the wrong time to make a big decision. Yeah I know the sample size of their struggles large enough where you can say okay this. There's some issue definitely is up before but there is also this part of me. That's that can't get the fact that they reached. The champions happens the final out of my head. That can't get the fact that this guy yesterday finished third in fief as manager of the Year award that drew with Manchester City you know a game at the game that they lost in the league last year that drew at Arsenal even though they threw away to lead a game that they lost last year. I know they look bad doing doing all this but like they've eked out a couple results Olympiakos Champions League campaign. It's still start withdraw on the road. It's not a loss your it has been to. I just feel like yes things are not. They're not going well right now but like I'm just I can't pull the rip cord yet. Just can't that's what it's called the record Gotcha. won't one thing. I would say I'm we should probably end on this somber note. A Miguel piece also referenced the fact that this has the hallmarks of klopp a Dortmund Fourteen fifteen season and we all know that went where it just it just ends fast hits critical mass. You've tired exhausted manager. He's still will mostly on the right side of the fan base and there's a parting of the ways because it had to happen and I I would steal yourself for that one. I'd also steed yourself for the fact that t more more both talk about next is going to be pushed to a junction has the economic clout to make a move that may turn the head of the manager who looks for a fresh pasture usually by Manchester United Sir yeah. It's all becoming more and more toxic there. Don't you think yeah really not so much toxic. I mean the manager whereas is coming out with and he's doing his lovely little Norwegian elk impression he's. He's a nice guy. Do you know what I mean like. He's a he's a guy. Oh you kinda. Obviously I'm a liberal fan but he's a guy I could see the fan base getting behind. He's he's honest. He's open. He's not he's not trying to hide his disappointment appointment at same time. He's he is clearly seething at what he sees on the field on. You just wonder at some point is he. Just you know we saw Edward Word that we have you seen that weird video of Edward and Phil Jones in the stand and Woodward is glaring out at the field at the London stadium watching to the defeat on full before him and it's on it's recorded also mischievous or were guessing what Phil Jones says and Phil Jones mouths with what appears to be sucked in the morning and instantly woodwork turns round and mouths. What we think is stop? Were on camera camera a rare on camera stop. Someone tried to come. Tell me that it it's there's another video foot round that shows the same thing but it's a wider view and that's a woman mini saying into but it's clearly not of watched that several times. I've I've gone deep on the gone. CSI Anna Yeah and you just look at that and you think at some point as Woodward bone to try and rid himself of one of his most impulsive decisions and try in just okay that's white dislike clean as quickly as as we can before more damage is done. Mike Goodman mid mid an interesting point. We should note that united are suffering a lot of injuries an awful lot of injuries to key players seahawks. There's Pago Bat and a lot of them are muscular injuries and he talked on kind of reminded me of soldier banged on as the terrible results were happening after the game he banged on endlessly about fitness fitness fitness and you just it reminds you of the. Moi's preseason is and where moyes decide. We're going back to school values. We're going to run the bleep out of these guys and now all of a sudden you see Marcus Ashworth who who makes to start Stafford runs and the next thing. He's clutching his groin. You just wonder if the toll of the preseason saw shares you know I won't say nostalgia trip but his his desire to bring it back to the old days may have seen him implement these old school methods is not there with that because sometimes you see stuff like that happening and then like you can rewrite that narrative to be and that's why they were in better shape than everyone else in the league so yeah revisions stuff. I know you're looking for reasons since I am trying to piece it all the squads not that different than last year squad when you remove guys like Pasta and Luke Shaw who was maybe starting to play a little bit better but like take those guys is out it okay. You got one Basakan there. Who's he is clearly a young player. I want you to envision this. So anyone who's watched leads. The Legion is a documentary saw Paul. How close leads were to buying Daniel Jams permanently he was there was swansea that that screw leads on that transfer he was right he had signed four order five contracts or whatever it was nearly all of them imagine this united team without him in it. Yeah there would be nothing to talk about and the galling anything for united funds and the thing they need to hear is that West Ham didn't even play that well the Creswell Free Creek was great and the Milenko goal was really well taken. It was the one move of quality in that first half otherwise westbound fans won't be getting carried away with that Patty because they're used to beating united at London's stadium now but morsel it's because they were just good enough. Midfield Noble in an Royce dominated that united midfield it's without Daniel James running onto a ball career and down the field. They've got nothing yeah and I think they just thought we can lose Lukaku because we have players that I that are young that are ready to step in and they're just not scoring goals that you even see Mata. Mata looks old on the field now. He's just not moving the same way and I would. I all in fairness to share. He has no no creativity and not midfield none whatsoever. There's no no there's no quick fix for this yeah like I you you know people may say like well. When pogue comes back then? Let's judge them well. We don't really seen them with PA for the better part of two plus years now. Are you impressed with what they look like with him. No skysports made a Manchester United signing at the weekend and it was Roy Keane. this is one of the I mean united fans will find funny but but I found it funny one of the most funereal pulse match descriptions of Game I've ever heard the first voice you hear is obviously Roy Keane but want you to pay attention to Josie Marino right right afterwards. I'll tell you I don't know what to say that I have to say. I'm a new deal wanted nuclear place but I'm shocked and saddened Badoer. Today you can lose again the football Bush about gamble united lackluster nor quality lack desire lacquer leaders lack of characters Salaam way back to the united. What's scary founded fall stemming apologies. You can hear the tunnel here at Stanford Bridge coming through all show. We're looking for for positives right now shows. Can you find any full hip. No I can't find we were bad last season but I don't see any improvement this season I confined. It's just so it's like he's being delivered with such terrible news and he's he's really upset about it. By the way that was one the most grim studios ever you had caraher soon as marine king presiding over a Manchester United Defeat dark dark indeed it all of this. I mean we're GONNA talk about Arsenal set to but the League is in such a weird weird such a weird place right now I it's almost hard for me to even continue using the phrase big six Dan because you've got four clubs that are just in a that are all in strange places that are all in transitional phases right now and even look at look at someone who thought would be competing for that big six spot wolves. I know it's it's it's so early and it's a bit a will begin to solidify a little bit more now but when it does when when it settles when the Pint of Guinness that is the premier league table settles in that Whitehead at the top there may not be a Manchester United and there may not be Chelsea the way that Leicester City capitalized on the last sort of transitional phase that the League went through a few years ago that won't happen again because of Liverpool our block but to a lesser degree it can happen this year for anybody who thinks the big six is this impenetrable force. Even if you get through six or five you can't get through into a Champions League place. This is a year where you can Lester Leicester Right now. Look like a legitimate candidate to do it but you're right. It is early but I mean I don't know that I see a lot changing anytime soon. For you know especially I would say the United and Chelsea Chelsea I still I don't know what we'll talk about arsenal right now actually and then we'll get to Everton who are one of those candidates to maybe get through but not with the way things are going Arsenal beat Aston Villa three to You know I wanNA look at that game and like be down down on arsenal because like you know how could things be that Harry against a new arsenal really. I came away from that thinking. You're down two hill. You've had a man sent off and they show something in scoring three second half goals to come back and win that game. That was really important. We we have to give praise raise when when we see something that we haven't seen from the club before I'm we're constantly talking about bottle and fight you know the things that were non existent instant at Anfield when they played Liverpool the things that arsenal funds constantly hearken back to where's your Tony Adams. Where's your revere that was great resilience to to come back from that really tough situation now. Let's check in with Arsenal fine. TV Andrew because these guys they should be this is straight straight after the match mind you this was recorded so DT and troops and all the guys should be really focused on on the exhilaration of pulling in one out of the fire. This might be joyous. Listen we'll give the players the credit for the way they turn that round especially in the last twenty but let's not overlook the full performance because it was shocking. Even before we went down to ten men we will pour we will pull you can shake your head or you want. You get a chance to say what you say in a minute right. I'm saying this year at the end of the day we will pull before we went down to ten men we were we was pulled blood from their fan bases that are in love with their own sadness and Arsenal. Oh have kind of your house dodger instant reaction. How cannot be your instant reaction look. It's hard to win games in this league. I don't care who you're Manchester. City just lost to Norwich allow for yourself to be happy ten men scoring three second half goals to come back and win. A game in a in a year were clearly. It's going to be a dog fight to get into a top four spot. Be Happy man like that. That's important that went videos barely twenty four hours. It has half a million hits talk with a million hits so they're doing something right but it's the misery index. That's what they're going towards awards. I think I think arsenal deserve credit for what they pulled out. The substitution set the manager made to change things that was a hairy situation and they turned around something that arsenal don't generally do so straight afterwards. I would be just held my hands on my head. How exciting was that. That's why we love football. That's why I love this this club as the kind of thing that I wanna come and see every week I don't care if it's area at least were showing all that spirit and everything but instead no negative negatively everything negative active. It's you're so right. Eventually it's a self fulfilling prophecy an and the modern fan is incapable incapable the of of just being measured and when something great happens like the weekend three to win at home after being tuned down in capable of seizing it and bringing it to bosom last but not least here. JJ EVERTON LOSE TO SHEFFIELD UNITED THEY LOSE TO NIL in a game where they give up one shot on goal. I I know you love those. I watch this game really yeah every minute of a tell me all about it right so let's do it through the prism of our mutual friend. Doug who who takes me afterwards on an ask me like it was a really pertinent question. Where is the plan B for Marco Silva here. Why are you playing to holding feelers dealers against Sheffield United at home. Is this just the way you play and you're that inflexible or what's going on here. I thought it was a fair assumption option from state-of-the to look at Sheffield united who loved their fullbacks to bomb forward who love even their center box to make those runs to have to covering midfielders in all who was it Schneider Lynn on death to cover the positions when Kohl a Coleman and Dina are getting forward so that that makes total sense to me because that's how Everton play but when you have all the possession and you see that Sheffi Jeffy united are defending in a low block make a change do something a bit different couldn't do Andrew could not do it read an article from a Everton blog the breakdown percentages after the game the percentage of forward progression and crosses on an positive passes. Whatever I'm I'm not using the terminology right but attacking Jacking Everton play that comes from the white areas. Is Oh well over fifty percent. They create nothing down the middle. They have a number ten position. That's been held by gifts cigarettes and it's not working out so I'm thinking make a change. Get Bernard off the off the wing he was playing white get him central and take cigarettes off or do something different or no he puts on Tolson and takes Coleman often puts on Wolcott like he's inflexible. This was so Oy easy for Sheffield United Sheffield United didn't even play the chef of the united way they just didn't Chevron United put in a better performance more tacking performance away at Chelsea Elsie than they did away at Everton and they still win the game. It's ridiculous. I would say the three promoted sides have all made a pretty good account for themselves so so far in the early part of the season like I it's hard to look at one of those clubs Norwich Sheffield or Aston Villa and say that there's an obvious candidate to going right back to I think if anything has been villa who've spent the most technically off those of those three that are the weakest that would be my opinion. Sheffield United of Komo opened open if they were not changing the way we play except when we visit I mean villa right now are eighteenth so they are in the drops through six games yet but but look getaway Norwich played like you look back at that opening gaming as Liverpool and if you really analyze it Norwich had some nice chances and played football tried to play for police. Yeah yeah absolutely. I'll tell you what we'll take a very quick break when we come back. Jj We asked for it and you all stepped up. We have a mail bag with a specific slant to it which I think some of you may really enjoy. I think they will enjoy it yet. People wanted it and we gave it to yep so we'll do that when we come back also what to watch for lots of mid week. MLS action then we go into the red cards man of the match. Don't go anywhere still lots to do back now on caught offside. Jj I I went back and rewatch the entire last season of peaky blinders. Get myself ready for the launch of the new season. I gotta do that. Yeah because you you do forget this. Yeah you see the problem is that we grew up. Mean you were of a similar vintage where you had to wait for show us to come along young and then all of a sudden the waiting was stopped because of streaming so you binge and then there's a massive gap before the next round of Benjamin view you inhale l. who inhale the show yeah and then and then we two years and so you forget you need to have to watch it so. I- anybody who loves the show like we do do I would tell you go back and re watch the last season before because it comes out when it's like next week or something. It's pretty soon yeah by the way listen reminding at the end of the show. There's something else coming up on. HBO Next Week that is in cinemas right now that I wanNA talk about. I'll I'll say it right at the end you know that they shall not grow old has binge is being shown on Hbo Right now. I cannot recommend that more strongly what a great show and I got to see that in the I max unbelievable and I also I wanted to tell you because I texted you. The other night I watched the between two ferns movie and I liked it. Look is it doesn't make any sense right. No it's sup- it's dumb but it's a lot of funny clips of him talking to celebrities between two ferns so if you enjoy it if and if you like Zach Galvin Akerson his character then I would tell you it's on Netflix you don't have to run to a movie theater and pay for a ticket and get a babysitter or whatever to go see you. Just sit on your couch and watching. It's it's an hour and in twenty minutes and it's funny. I think you'll like it. Benedict cumberbatch benedict benefit lumberjacks. I'm I'm sorry he's a funny guy. Yeah Watch my favorite talk show of all time between two FERNS. It's pretty good Let's see we have a nail bag here. Jj and it is a MLS ls specific mailbag America's back. We have said that we were going to do this. Caught off site prodigy mail dot com at your soccer pod caught off site. ESPN follow us on twitter witter. Follow us on instagram. Come join US angelic hordes all of you but we do not have a website. We're not cough side DOT com. That's something different. We're definitely not that who actually am as well tell this story. They got caught out really badly bitten. People think it's US know why I root for them to succeed succeed because their failures are are like an indictment of us so Killian Sheridan the former Celtics Center forward decided to tweet out stories from his career except none of these stories happened so he played at Celtic. He did not play it celebrates the same time as Virgil van occupied in Scotland. He did not play against Georgia van. Dyke apparently they didn't their careers did not intersect yet. He wrote this thing about Virgin Van Dyke. I guess when he I don't know why he did it but he did it so he tweets out. I remember verge of Dyke was marking me once at the start of the game. I looked down at his at his cleats. They were untied. He didn't tell us his boots. He had a brilliant game. Mark me out of it. I never got a touch on the ninetieth minute. I looked at his cleats. They were still on tight and he just tweeted that out caught off side. The website tweeted that as it took that wrote an article about it. It's not as a lie. It's completely. You're sure I almost one hundred percent sure that Killian Sheridan at Celtic his career did not overlap with Virgil Van Dyke trustee and even when he went to even when he went went and joined other Scottish teams like you said like kilmarnock verge of dyke was still not at Celtic Celtic fans correct me on that from Ron all right and then I'll know you don't know when you're incapable of saying. I don't know too much pride. I understood Chilean tweeted out the the link to the caught off site article and wrote eight appears Sir that you have been caught off off-site anyway. They're not us. Give them too much airtime yeah Andrew Casson I know it's not the sexy subject but when will mls bound turf as an Orlando City Fan. I'm sick of watching guaranteed away losses a places like Portland Atlanta New England because my team doesn't want to risk ninety getting heart under garbage char thank you I look I feel the same way as you should be grass across the league. I genuinely do but some for example like in Atlanta. That's the same tar- that the Falcons play and like New England and they don't have the system that spurs have where you can roll in the NFL field retractable field they don't I the ones that I don't get are these soccer specific. Stadium like Portland should have come on. It's crazy. I like these clubs now. Because the reasons reasons for having turf are based around maintenance I think and weather I mean like what don't these club aren't they at a place now where they're making enough money money were like they can afford to keep with the probably or intact the problem for in. New England is they. They play in the Patriot stadium so when the Patriots are in season I I'm not talking talking about those teams that play in NFL stadiums. I get beyond your control and you do what you have to do but the soccer specific ones. I don't know it's a different game on turf telling you it's it's. It's all lies slice. John Wants to know what we think about Chicago. Announcing they will play in soldier field twenty twenty. Do you agree with this first. Step the new owner and which would you prefer a soccer specific stadium our stadium close to the heart of the city. this is a really difficult job. John points out that it was so difficult to get to sh Toyota field so far. Every situation is obviously different for Chicago in this case even even though they're going back to a stadium that they probably don't want to be an and I've everyone no one likes seeing. MLS Games being played in NFL stadiums. It doesn't work however I actually think for Chicago and what they were doing with. It's probably it's probably better and it can work look at Seattle in NFL stadium downtown in that city look at look at Atlanta Atlanta you know so like just because a team is playing in an NFL stadium. It doesn't mean it has to be like the New England revolution which by the way is the worst of both worlds because New England are playing in Foxborough borough which is way outside of Boston like forty minutes and it's an NFL stadium so their situation is is bad on both fronts. Chicago's soldier field is a good location in Chicago. I think it's it's a better alternative than what was going on for further tone. That's good for walking great walking. It's a great walking city. I think it works but it's up to the shock Chicago Fan Base. They made the playoffs two seasons ago for the first time in a long time a nobody showed up for the Red Bulls game. There was empty seats everywhere it for the first round playoff game so the fans have to step up to at some point. They've really got you know put bums in seats John Dix. What are the chances that Charlotte gets team. Now Katy router writes in the Charlotte Agenda Knowing No. You're an avid reader of the Charlotte agenda. You have it with your coffee every morning. I don't drink coffee but but I do read the Charlotte Agenda She wrote this two days ago. Ms Mls Commissioner Don Garber came to Charlotte mid August Panther spokesman. Stephen German confirmed to the the agenda Garber and League officials met with David Tepper and visited Bank of America Stadium which will be where analyst team would play so the panthers owner tapper pepper on Don garber now apparently tempers looking for two hundred million from the municipality to put his MLS stadium which isn't grit and the question Katie we asked them is what would this mean for Charlotte independence who are moving in to the memorial stadium renovating in uptown and their US lt not not not a lower us. Uso Championship team so I don't know I mean if grabbers meeting with tapper. You would think that it's yeah. The League is still expanding so maybe you had honestly. I don't know I'm not even GonNa fake an answer. I have no idea what their chances are. Sorry I would say they're good. Andrey a million will David Silva thrive in Miami so last week. We pretty much heard that it's going to be David Silva intimate Miami as the first they've signed some pears already as the first big name signing so he's going to be thirty four in January tons of tread on the tire Julia but I don't know maybe I'm being naive. I think his style translates like put a lot of energy around him and you have to allow him to drift in games. I I would think and I hate singling. MLS Out for bad defending because I think think that's epidemic around the world right. MLS is certainly part of that. There is a lot of bad defending in the league the market the market leader like that's not fair but possibly true. Can't you see him just like picking passes. Yeah Yeah and you WANNA team him up with with someone who's going to thrive off it and there's every chance on stock could be Luis Suarez thus the big rumour so but again. It's I think what we it's hard to believe. That's Waratahs won't he's going to go from Barcelona to Miami. I mean where else is there. If that happens is that is that does that that become the new biggest move. I mean Beckham coming down the less will always be tough to top because of what had like beyond the realm of what what a star he was but in terms of like on field player swore has going from directly from Barcelona who may who knows they older Suarez though you know a diminished lars yeah I suppose but wow I mean they've got monitors right. What the last thing you want is appeared all Lampert avid via scenario where only only like one of them is really capable of pulling his weight physically so Dylan ESMA Armin Assadi united a contender are are a pretender so here's what I said about that and unfortunately for Dillon I don't really I don't go really all that deep on on Minnesota but instead I kind of look at the Western Conference and I'm kind of looking at L. A. F. C. because right now like if you're going to say that Minnesota are contender like right now it. It's it's hard to look at the. West and say that anyone is a contender because of how dominant l. AFC have been the season however they are hitting a weird patch and if you look at that then suddenly unless you can start if you think that that's real this rough patch that L. AFC Aaron you can start to make cases if you want for some of these other clubs that maybe you had ruled out of being true contenders during the middle of the season L. AFC have they're winless now in five straight teams are adjusting to them you know bobby warshaw saw had a a piece of mls soccer dot com about what's been going on in these Games that L. AFC winning and he talks about some that you and I talked about a little while back how teams we're GONNA adjust and they're going to become way more compact against l. AFC which is like the metrics and stats back that up basically and teams are playing a much more direct style against them not trying to pass through L. AFC but more of like a long ball style and to a certain extent it is working and so now like if this is like a tennis match like now serve goes back to L. AFC. Are you going to readjust as we head into the postseason and if they do then yes they are you know they're clearly the best team not just in the Western in conference but in the League so if they readjust no one's a contender because they're there but right now I look at the Galaxy and the success that they've had against AFC. We've talked about how L. AFC probably wants no part of the galaxy postseason. It's hard for me to Minnesota just because I haven't seen it before. I know that's not really fair to them. They had a really good season season but like when they get matched up against the team of that caliber are they going to be able to outscore them. Are they going to really be able to bog down defense and really choked a club like that data I retest was they could have clinched at the weekend a playoff berth with a win in Portland and they didn't in fact. They were lucky to come up with a draw because veto Minoa had an unbelievable game. Am for them Ikea Para Ozzy. Alonzo are probably going to enter the postseason not one hundred percent fit now. The argument is when is a professional sports player ever or fully one hundred percent. I worry about goals in the team can Tarot is the only one in double figures on a conservative Tan but they don't score a ton of goal no no they don't they. I think they're one point five across the season which is not huge but they've won games. They have one begins I'm just not feeling them and I think it's partly because of the bias that is inherent in have never having seen them at the stage before a Griffin Lael will Joseph Martinez injury but to be determined in Atlanta united season. Are you think divorce has the tools and knowledge to guide Atlanta through the playoffs. I'm going to say that from what we've read and what frontal Boris said it doesn't appear as if it is as bad injury as I thought but he's absolutely crucial to Atlanta. I'm widely can still be PO- potent in the playoffs. Look at the drop off Andrew Twenty six goals by twenty six and twenty eight for Joseph Martinez. It's twenty two gold drop off to the next closest player in the League which is Julian wrestle that if he look it's I saw those comments from Franken board that it's not a series. It's a neat though so I can tell them all about it if he is if he is actually hurt to me. It's a total game changer for how I view the Eastern Conference playoff picture he's to me. He's absolutely Adam Morton to them. So I'd be nervous. I would and I know that they were in a similar situation with Miguel. Al Maroon remember he got hurt near the end of the season but he was able to come back and they went on and won. MLS Cup so this is not unfortunately fortunately for Atlanta. This is not unchartered territory. They've had to deal with stuff like this before but I really think not. They are hardly a one man team. I don't mean to put it like that but let's be honest like disguise scores tons of goals and you've got to replace that short notice and Barco is not a hundred percent fit. the the other options don't really jump out at me the and like I said Gristle is more of a creator than score so he's GonNa Miss.. Obviously he's not gonNA play against. NYC AFC which by the way is also important because those two teams are in a fight for Homefield so like Atlanta would love to be playing NYC AFC if they get to the conference finals at Mercedes Benz and not have to come to New York and plant a baseball stadium on choppy ground which is still going to be in use because you know the Yankees make a deep run into the postseason will have to go somewhere else won't they. Don't they have to play one game away when they I don on the Yankees earn tone. What I'm saying is Atlanta. Would rather that just sure be in their place. Luca New England have had an open down season and it seems like the new coach bump from arena has worn off. Do you think they might be able to pull off an upset if they end opened the playoffs and if not what what expectations do you have for them for next season so tomorrow's game versus. Portland is so massive that seems wrong to even talk about anything else they they are scraping away to try and make sure that they clinch a playoff spot but I would say going forward like for the team right. Now you're right. The bumper slowed down I'm I'm not. I'm not sure that there will be a contender even if they do make the playoffs I think they'll exit early in the playoffs and by the way where this all started like I think that if you're a New England fan and ends with them making the playoffs but then going out right away just still all still a success. I still think where the started under Brad Friedel. I think so too as well in the general just I I do think they'll get in. They've got a game at hand plus. A three point edge is right now over eighth place Chicago New England to have forty one points and have played one fewer games but you're right the game that they have coming up against Portland is huge and if if things do go badly I think you look back on what happened last week there up three one against Orlando City at halftime and they throw that away and wind up three three yeah so and also so drawing nil with Ara Sally was at home they over the weekend yeah. They needed that win. They're just going forward for them. Just watching the highlights the game like they need a striker. Acre like not not Bunbury like an arson alongside compliment him. That's fifteen twenty. Gustavo bow signing wound end up to be an important one for them. He's helped massively yeah but you're right. I mean the beginning of the season. We talked about how strikers did not score goals for them. That changed the season went on but it is still something that they'll probably have to deny would actually I don't know if it was on purpose but careless. Gill seem to be planned way out white in the right and clean coordination gene so maybe pay him if he's creative pay more centrally before we get the mailbag. Can I read a couple of quick things yeah. I'm Daniel J easier. Hi Guys Love the pod I've been listening to your phone observations in on Banter since before I moved from the UK to Australia in Twenty fifteen but when jj mentioned playing World Cup in the last pod it brought back so many memories that I couldn't concentrate property for awhile and even now I'm reminiscing about running about aimlessly as a seven when you're old and the joy of being the last man standing which didn't happen very often. I think in our school we might have called at Wembley. Yeah we call it women to on sometimes World Cup and we also have Wembley Doble which as the name suggests was the was the same game playing in pairs performing an incredible amount of won two's to get around a dozen players and towards the goal would always be a highlight just wanted wanted to say that really as the dimension of the game has floated me with so many happy memories that it will definitely keep me on a bose for the rest of this working day cheers guys and keep up the great work with a podcast. Dan West Infant Chew on you British expert living in Perth Western Australia well yeah and all was Dan as he reminisced. I taught of one of the great managers of yesteryear. Ron Manager holy soccer isn't a small voice in the Paul Jumpers for goalposts stolley considering Humane Association football India's National Game Ninety Sixty six. Let's people on the pitch control over it is now so that was a character created by Paul Whitehouse from sketch show called fast show and he was called Ron manager and he was he murdered one of the early ATV pundits in the nineteen seventies in England who owe football isn't it who used to often these tangents enduring image. Isn't it young boys in the Park Jumpers for goalposts wou- you know things like that. I'm not done yet by the way oh I'm sorry James Lauren's love the pod being a listener since it came across the show a few years ago. I heard that you were looking for clubs to follow. I would like to introduce you to my club caraway kangaroos. We are an amateur outfit but with big ambitions we are based in in the southern suburbs of Sydney Australia. We ended the season recently going down in the grand final. After winning the title last year back back always a challenge. The twenty twenty season is still still L. sometime off but any additional support will be appreciated anyway. Attached is our case. I would love to send to overview have and support the mighty cangas twenty twenty. Please come back to me with sizes NAM number preferences and where to send it and it will be yours. Oh my God now. Here's the problem I see the problem. There is a bit of the province their arsenals jerseys are lit have a look at the manager. There were well there arsenal's kit first of all. That's all I I see is arsenal's but they are red and white is there are no wave version for Andrew Look. This is incredibly nice and I'm not going to be picky. That's that's very very kind. They're sponsored by Audi of Sutherland. We give them a drop Louis. We should give them momentum. What are you implying as Roma's Sutherland crikey the best value in ID's. What if I thought you were setting the today. Look like arsenals uniform but if not that what are you saying. What is wrong with these jerseys are amazing? They're gorgeous. Oh Really Nice you admit it because they're red and white look a lot like Arsenal's kit right finally still go no yeah we you know maycock got in touch with us. I live in Seattle huge sounders fan and cannot say I've heard of any. MLS team to have listening devices for the visually impaired. This is from my man-of-the-match the match last week. My Dad was born blind unturned me. turned me onto soccer at an early age. I would love to see more clubs adopt this and for him to experience some day his dad's German well. I'm born blind and grew up with this love of football from the seventy four call and finding Andrew West Hi guys wanted to reach out to you you all as a blind soccer fan listener of your show of being a sports fan since I was a kid. I've always been like the West Ham fan in the commercial so I talked about the westbound. The the blind West Ham fund in the commercial from a few years ago Coca Cola so it was a memorable experience going to a game and sitting with someone who knows the sport really well and communicate it. I'm excited to follow these developments over in Ireland as a side note. I've been taught him supporter for the past four years before that. I really did not have a team in England that I followed because I was told by a friend who follows them. They are like the New Orleans Saints of English football they will find new and interesting ways to lose and break their fans hearts that is from Andrew West and that is the mailbag mailbag there you go. That was brilliant. What a mail bag. That was really something hey before we continue. I want to tell you about something who is it Ziprecruiter. Jj when you need red wine line at four PM Sushi at nine PM Breakfast Burrito at eight. AM ibuprofen attend am. What do you do dollar. Shave Club. You Post made its own all right post. 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I said wait what I said. You gotTa keep you got more to do. I hate getting haircuts. Not Actually it's one of the worst that I've ever seen I wanNA WANNA just cover it up like with a I need. I can't wear hats to work. That's Kinda weird. I don't enough. I wear hats all the time on weekends but I can't wait baseball latte. No I know Fedora top hat. What do you think yes a baseball hat what to watch for. Jj Mid Week MLS Wednesday seven o'clock huge one at the top applebees conference you with a Fedora that could work no it couldn't it could be out that guy you take it off with a bit of flourish in your throat over and it just hangs hangs in the court hunger you know like that. I'm not cool enough to pull off a fedora. I'll never try listen. You listen you punks. I'm here to talk sports. I gotcha Wednesday seven o'clock. NYC AFC in Atlanta United F C which we just talked about huge game like I said Joseph Martinez knocking play huge opportunity for NYC to really stake their claim atop the conference. What a season it's been in for them? Wednesday nine thirty real Salt Lake and the galaxy. La's win over the weekend against Montreal was massive them up into thirds lots on with a goal and an assist by the way this is the rematch of him in a new right that's right after they're coming together earlier in the season well his going towards towards a new era and taunting him and ran his going towards a new in the locker room and we're not talking about semi like pretending to apologize but really just kind of further humiliating. Elliott Yeah Yeah Connor Rooting for new here Wednesday ten thirty Portland Timbers and New England and other absolutely massive game with huge plows implications for both teams. These are really really big midweek games Wednesday eleven o'clock. If you're staying up late San Jose and Philadelphia Right now San Jose holding down that seven spot in the western conference the West is crazy like the the bottleneck between like third and seventh is ridiculous right now meanwhile the Union reeling just a little bit after a tough the two nil defeat against the red bulls. They would like to kind of keep their whole near the top of the conference but they're falling behind just a little bit yeah wrong time of year to be doing that. I only have one game for you. This weekend ended the Premier League Saturday twelve thirty Everton and Manchester City. I mean if ever there was a time to start you. You know looking up your ideas for Everton yeah that will hopefully they won't be treated like yet another squirrel and then lollygag Saturday three o'clock. This is really like your first really big one. In Spain this season Athletico Madrid and Real Madrid wanted to mentioned by the way because Barcelona did play earlier today they beat vary al to WanNA got goals from six minute and our tour in the fifteen however I will never however that is all just other stuff compared to the big story to come out of this which is Lionel Messi in his first start of the league season or really of the season right because he came on as a SAR preseason goes out with an injury injury he had just been recovering from a calf injury and he goes off holding that calf correct well. They're saying now I think Valverde was saying that it's something with his doctor muscle muscle. I hope because I love him. He just one fifth player of the year I really hope. These are just isolated incidents. I hope this is not a sign of the aging process because eventually that will happen and I hope this is not error is not ready for hit. Aram is on the clock. Andrew and he did have a thirty fulsome summer not ready for him. Another full messy that we know and love okay Let's see we got red cards matching just a second but JJ. I got more dollars uh-huh don't do that. Do you know how much the advertisers hate that when you start shouting out names of other products during their ads you monster get how this works too so horribly horribly. Unprofessional Panasonic Nike Rattler N we're going to this podcast is going to cease to exist because you didn't know how to execute a read professionally. You read it. Jj Aj hiring can be a slow process but you know what I want to tell you about somebody. I want to tell you about Dylan again. Dylan's back still in doing cafe Chur as Coo Dylan Moskowitz he needed to hire a director of coffee for as organic coffee company but he was having trouble finding qualified applicants so he switched which does Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. 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That's ziprecruiter dot com slash offside. o F F S I d ziprecruiter dot com slash offsides offsides ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire in Card Yeah Red card as music. Keep playing not clunky at all you. WanNa go first man in a row share people right cowardice is from the Associated Press. We're checking in Italy again where I'm sure things are just fine. Atlanta's two two draw with Fiorentina on Sunday was suspended briefly during the first half Jew to chance aimed at d'albert however the Italian League's George Oh Jones on Monday that he is yet to decide whether Atalanta warrants a punishment judge Geraldo Master Andrea said in his weekly disciplinary report but Donald Burt needs to be interviewed before his decision is made following three step process for handing racism inside stadiums referee Daniele are SRA are subtle ordered warning to be read over the stadiums loudspeaker that the match would not resume until the chance ceased the fee for process requires a referee to briefly pause a match at the first hint of discriminatory chance request an announcement over the stadium's public address arrest asking fans to stop. If the chanting persists the referee can suspend the match an ordered the teams into the changing rooms until it stops. If that doesn't work doc the referee can stop the match definitively while the fee for process is straightforward. It has rarely been implemented in Syria. Oh it has I don't. I don't mean to laugh but that is. Just you know I felt really tackling this problem with authority. I mean if Donald Albert has been racially abuse which he has the fact that he must then be interviewed before a decision can be made is is just so weak that I can't even tell you. The referee stopped the game for a reason the evidence is there act why put the guy through the trauma again why interrupt his playing career to drag him in front of George to interview him. How `bout you drag like some of the neanderthals making those noises in front of a judge formula but hate crimes. I YEP anyway. I I just WANNA say at some point we will have to stop checking in with Italy because nothing good is happening. No certainly not in the stands. It doesn't feel that way right now. Let's see my redcar. Jj Remember last season when Aston Villa phase leads in a pretty important late-season Matt Villa had suffered an injury. It was expected that leads to play the ball route but instead they went ahead and scored. That's correct so seeing the error of their ways. Marcelo Bielsa demanded his team allow villa to walk the ball into their goal to make up for those actions because of this be also was awarded the Fica Fairplay Award yesterday well deserved that is an excellent man of the match. I remember or at this well. You and I both praised the way this played out. It was the right thing that that leads and be although we did say it might be covering for something now so he wins wins be also wins the fief fairplay award. Doesn't that feel like a weird optic to you seeing Marcelo Bielsa up there for the fairplay war. Don't you think it's got like a little bit of the feel of like bill belichick winning some kind of NFL sportsmanship award allow me to reach to read an excerpt from an article in the Guardian from from this very season in which the incident happened where he did the right thing. This is from the same season. Mar Syllabi also has admitted Leeds United have spied spied on all of their opponents this season but remains adamant. No specific rules were broken and believe he is guilty of stupidity rather than cheating the former. Argentina and Chile manager was finally prompted to address the issue last Friday when shortly before leads beat Franklin Parts Darby County to nil in West Yorkshire. The Midlands Club revealed that police had apprehended he ended a suspicious person outside their training ground on Thursday. Be also immediately acknowledged. It was a member of his backroom staff but then he did the famous press conference where he revealed all the days that he had on every single team in the championship binders on each team like he he did a good thing in the way played out with leads and Aston Villa but I just can't help think that within the confines of the same season you've admitted to spying on all of your opponent's. I'm not saying you need to get fired or go to gel or anything like that but to me kind of disqualifies you from winning winning the fair play award and I also feel that him letting the ball be run into the net was not so much this grand gesture of Sporting Carinthian play as much as it was. I've already got S- so much slack over my don. My Dasa is information mission by the way when you do that. You're kind of only getting yourself back to even like for the fact that leads went ahead and scored while villa had a player down like you're now way in the negative so now like you're kind of just like. I know he didn't have to do that. Though you're kind of just doing what you're supposed is to do. I know it looks nice and it was a good sportsmanship moment but what if he didn't do that like how how much would he have been vilified any kind of had to he he had to because don't. Oh forget for about a about two weeks three weeks. All it was was spy gate right in England so it he wanted to show that he was fair. That's your her. That's your feet foot. Fairplay Winter Marcelo Bielsa caught off sides man of the match. Go ahead there. Jj Athletic Bilbao Andrew the Basque Club have have made no signings this summer the new additions to the squad have been young players promoted from their reserve team or returning lawn players and yet technically sniffily although Granada drew today so they are joint top and Grenada our top on goal difference they athletic Bilbao still sit atop Lalita after five games until they pay Lagaan is tomorrow night when they will probably be outright top. I expect them to win that game. This is no joke though when when we were doing our league preview most of the Info we got was telling us that Bilbao wouldn't be particularly good this season now they eh may still not be great but so far they've beaten champions. Barcelona knocked off Basque rivals Real Sociedad an accounted for Alvis at the weekend. They're undefeated so far they have only conceded once in four hundred and fifty minutes of League action. Remember how we also nearly choked at Stryker Inaki Rocky Williams nine year Alan Pardew ask contract with a one hundred and fifty one million euro released laws well the strike or may not have scored for salvage but that was his one hundred twenty fourth consecutive league game for Las Leonidas One hundred twenty four league games and a role is absolutely absolutely mind blowing for outfield player in the modern game. Don't forget Bilbao can only feel players who were born in the Basque country territory that includes seven provinces that stretch from northern Spain into France or who moved to the region in their youth and learned to play soccer there. These are the rules at amazed they keep themselves to hamstring. This is a club Hamstrung by its own rules and ethnishity but yet they're seemingly thriving they haven't ebbing relegated ever Barcelona. Real Madrid and Bilbao have never gone down incredible. These uh-huh yeah sure well. I kind of liked them. E You know I like the global nature of sport too but I was I was going to say I also like part of the fun of the sport like you know meeting and interacting with people who are sometimes different than ourselves but also they don't do wise suspending the Sun may miss is a beautiful stadium and they've got like something they've got two hundred million in reserve or you know. They've got a lot of money. They don't throw it out there to develop within their communities not good to your right. You can certainly spin it either way. There's no question about it. let's see my man of the match. Jj Michael Parkhurst one of the greatest defenders and MLS history is announced that he'll be calling it a career whenever it is that Lanta season comes to an end here is Parker's making the announcement. All all the time has come for me. Unfortunately this'll be my last season as professional. I know I'm one of the lucky ones to be able to say that. I really really enjoyed what I've been able to do. The last fifteen years to kick a soccer ball in your paid for it has been an absolute dream. Come true there are a lot of finding to thank helped me along the way and I'll do so after the season for now I do want to thank my family though for their air their love their support sacrifices. They've made an order to help me see out my dreams do what I've been able to do for the last fifteen eighteen years. Thank you guys I love you. He's thirty five years old when I saw that like May. I don't know it was one of those moments. That made me think like on thirty five years old. I can't imagine at this stage of my life being kind of forced to stop doing a thing that I love. It's like it was a very like I don't know. It just hit me. Anisimov remember his atrocious record and MLS coins. I'm glad that he did get one with Atlanta. So am I am not as a bit part player as a key player in and out of the US men's national team picture over an eight year stretch remember he spent time in Europe significant time don't forget declared for the Republic of aren't I played for Northland Artis lend in Denmark also briefly only a couple appearances but he deployed for Augsburg in Germany he actually played every minute of Northland's Champions League campaign in the twelfth twelve thirteen season against Chelsea Schachter Nets Advantis oh but he returned. MLS with Columbus in two thousand fourteen than it was on to Atlanta for their inaugural season where he finally finally did achieve his elusive mls title during his career he won rookie of the year defender of the year you won three fair play awards member of six all star teams and in two thousand six he was named MLS humanitarian of the year great career one which I'm sure he would like to cap off with another MLS Cup. We had him on this podcast West. Yes we did yeah he was he was really cool. I enjoy talk yet when he was in Europe that time in champion he act- he got his Irish passport and there was talk of him being in drafted into a republic of Ireland camp when we came on tour to America but I never never transpired because I think he made the decision combined plant Dan in mls and therefore kind of sculptured that it didn't he'll also win mls most interesting voice I think he will not I can't sell this is a joke. I'm not looking forward to the Michael Pakuris podcast. What are you talking about hi. This is Michael Parkhurst. Welcome to see the video. It's like not a normal press press conference. He's on a field with like probably a friend just holding up an iphone like he made the so informally. I can't tell you such a good dude i MENA -tarian of the year and and you're sitting here making fun of the he has a normal voice. What are you even talking about. I animal I can tell you about all the emotion running through my body right now. It's this is an ugly side died of. It's overwhelming sorry Michael. Sorry now brilliant player breeding career. I shouldn't of mocked because your knees in pain. Yeah WanNa bring everyone down lutely lutely absolutely this this this podcast has been an oasis in my week and it's only Tuesday while I'm glad that we could play some small part in helping you through your life and and all I needed trials and tribulations. Oh Yeah it's it's. It's easy being me. Everyone looks at the Glamour and the Glitz they think hey he's got to think that guy. He's got east. Tell me more about the glamour and Glitz of Your Life. It's there's not a minimum. This was a Lotta Fun I don't know what's going to are we going to be doing like some emergency podcast later under this week with Michio Pocchettino being out spurs prepared for anything now if we have to we have to what kind of world are we living in. This is happening. It's it's terrible. It's truly terrible all but hey I enjoyed this. This was a good time good podcasts lot lot talk about lot that we got into here really something. Follow us on twitter. Follow us on instagram because the kids they'll have instagram and dom. Yep Pray for me and my knee to you. I say goodbye listening to caught off-side soccer podcast yeah.

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Dream Dortmund Debut

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Dream Dortmund Debut

"Woke means one is a busy on. ESPN AFC down. Thomas Craig Burley. I am Stevie Nikko will stop showing in the Premier League. I think through the results since they go between what Spurs Bryson Watson Villa one meanwhile allows city to a two on up to Utah Against Thomas one between West Ham and Everton. It's also one shepherd united one Norwich with a one nil win over Bournemouth booth the to nail down the Beatson Samson absent. Mary's three to I mean the late game it finishes Newcastle One Chelsea now which obviously has big significance for the top floor. Place Chelsea still five plan of united but was very much breathing down their neck now unite. Maybe who knows if they winning ends tomorrow. It could be down to two series of stretching it a bit but is definitely a blow for Chelsea who who will be disappointed that we've seen again Bossa game but not take the points away from our next game here in the League. Less than mine United Tottenham so he said himself lampard two three weeks ago. Are you know we're GONNA stop. Stop Boston Games. And not killing teams off well okay. Newcastle defended well. That's new constable. Do under Steve Bruce and the fight a semblance of success not propelling themselves to what looks relatively received possession however Chelsea are in danger of Latin am taking them not including Sheffield United World's protect particularly ruled that a good site for the money spent on the job and the new Santos de but that endangering leading a very taught him say in a very very very nightside still have a chance to get into that taught four. And that's GONNA pay more pressure on Lumpar then I think rightly so because we've looked at Marino and Portugal this season amongst others. We've looked show Scott almost every day for the last six months. Unwell critiques. Have I think there's GonNa come a point although I know the stories are different. Because they're transfer bond lost Eden. How old but LUMPAR GONNA come under some pressure pressure esteem? Faltas collosal those other teams to talk for from the possession. They've been a throwing. The the biggest problem is going forward. The too quickly quickly the seemed to run out of ideas. And then they lose the discipline and it just becomes a case of well hopefully someday producers something from nowhere in now when you get so much of the ball and you're sure deepen the opposition's final thought especially team the Newcastle who have so many bodies there the hustle movement and after about an hour all of a sudden Chelsea had bodies forward but standing on the edge of Newcastle's penalty area via facing the wrong goal. They're all sent forward. I mean that's just a lack of discipline no added to that that you bought a game so much and you've sent a bike in particular particularly when Ruediger who's had nothing to do. Just make sure you keep a clean sheet. Take a point. But no you got the sales for Newcastle. WHO's headed a thousand balls? Whose job again? What's what he's there is well? Ruediger has one head to make at the end of the game and doesn't attack it and they lose the game so the biggest problem more questions going forward but as well as up to get points you have to be Taylor by well. That should be reminded arsenal coming up and they just can't keep a clean sheet data. Talk with this is a huge pressure on lumpar granted. I game because you know they just cannot see elite or keep the clean sheet so this the run for TLC though. Because I don't know the dealing with a team upset and then I will you know it makes it a little easier for them also later on one of the other big story lines today. Manchester City to Crystal Palace to panelists led for much of this game a quick price from Seoul City Goto on not a late goal equaliser FA- Palestine. I mean if finished to. Yeah but there's no surprise. I'm not surprised I'M NOT US apprised into one five now. I'm not surprising to go Vella and make a training game and I'm not surprised him to drop points home on just who they have been the season football the reason the gazillion points behind pill two games and Honda just half the dawn the by defending. Yeah I'm afraid. The Champions League's going pasta by for another year as well. So it's great for Roy Hodgson Impalas. I'm just surprised that city I just I think the highs are so so high and the laws Apprai- lawful them at the moment particularly. I think that's the best way. No surprise no no surprises the toll and you should expect her because when you've got to send a box one who shouldn't be playing there and they're the one who's just solo a a form that is confidence is completely short. Don't be surprised that you lose goals. What's up which I think? He's stuck between Wean. been a football player and beat a defender right now. He's not an either right now. He's not doing his job. The first goal he. He's nowhere near the head of this bike across his mom and in the second goal it just gets done one on one with with saw so even with the bowl is feet. Now he's looks nervous so he stuck between a rock and put he's done. I said Yeah I'm not very uh-huh obviously the end of the season I mean Personnel personnel think joins Dolan's as a terrific football. But I think he's Pasta crossroads in his career where he's going to have to sort himself out whether it's whether these heads away with a few things or whether it's the injuries whether it's legit whatever as he he needs to get back to why mindset for the guy impossible and they hoped he was going to see the mistakes. Hasn't I think for that reason. One He needs to go somewhere else going to stop and I think to set the empty because that's a position that he needs to know Guatemala's already said coming into this weekend. Can't I'm not leaving in the summer unless decide me. So he's still going to be there. Which means half disorder that lane and not by lying unfortunately with with Otamendi around and Johnstone's around as going to court with family dinner going back so the Gordon half they go out and get themselves a gold plated sent back that can play and can defend on a thankful? That reason Johnstone's is probably going to be so please. Requirements meanwhile what Fennell Spurs now new is how we softened today at once again Josie Marino complaining about the officials. They did not discuss that. One possible penalty that should have been a penalty and then and they looked at one that was clearly not. That's also alongside the red cards. It should have been given. We've had very bad decisions. I loved goal line technology. I respect act that now. The instant talking about is in the first half the handball from Cafe Con. Because you haven't seen let's show you it's TV's the arms not unnatural. I'm not sure position is it From Philbin Yeah. It was supposed to come on when the when the when I want was criticized for not being paid enough but when you twelve inches away from your mind and he just kicked the ball. St Around you can't you can't know what I would says as well I would say is is within all these changes and the ludicrous rhetoric rhetoric. I five all the cronies. Go down there. talked-about sell away and they talked about giving penalties for the for the say the silhouette. I'm afraid I don't think you know I'm just saying by the letter of the law and the new. The new way wits interpreted now how they've been given we would had it been given they could do to give it right because they are outside the silhouettes in which goes by so many laws than these people you want to go down there and just get hold of them and our Rin them neck and say simplify things a little bit but anyway act from has I think understand Marino frustrated about that had been the other way and he was in the opposing. Not say what can you do. That's muddy waters. We have these laws now. What about the Caputo Challenge wasn't happy about this either? Felt they should have been a red card so what I'm thank God. It's never a red cow tongue heritage. This is seven minutes the busy concert. Yes he clearly go for the ball doing ten. Yeah no rick. Alpha me away from the incidents and inevitably is going to point to those because he doesn't want to about the game because once again you have written the Spurs and the fact that the final third they just offered nothing yeah It played it played a really attack. Team you know an old famous strategic chrome everybody out there What we're always going to be difficult to break down the Super Organized Wonder Nigel Pearson did you? Did you lacked creativity. Final with an off illness to them. It wasn't a heck Kabila room to operate whenever to see whenever to see Lamelo Lucille so particularly male. It will do something excellent one day and you probably not going to see him again for fear. Four games at least I can. Can you get the feeling spas which they'll have been out there now and not schooled. No meanwhile the other North London team Arsenal one chef denied could have pretty much predicted. This one MHM ship United held off. Don't tell warn only hold on. What is the only difference between these two sides in my opinion as going? Ospel motorboat them you know like his air and Pepsi's got little trick now for the rest of the team. I mean really what would from from from the goalkeeper through the the bike. Four through the middle of the park many hostile players would play Sheffield united team. I mean absolutely sheffield you deserve zip zip. The point and for me would probably is good as ever recently chef. United Chris Router said forget. Forget all the tactics would grow on the second balls and that's for Sheffield United for long periods is for us. We'll just quickly not picking on US player but played recently Moustapha says Hans we have to hold forever families from the job. Don't uh-huh honest noticing. Yeah you really take off seriously sums up the attitude of some some of these players these days and it's not a big problem after but it shows you the mentality is weak mentality stevie sticking up for Sheffield United despite the fact they troll in tonight Camille Narrative. Well sometimes you get what you have done research by the way you can check out our podcast available every day on the website. Let's go to Spain then. Ram taking on a severe gaining ground in controversy. Not before they circe Ramdas would show off the Spanish supercup. She'll the bullet about this is the big talking point now. Twenty nine minutes in Soviet thought they'd scored Volvo would overturn it from just seeing the van or merely towel actually know even a blog. I mean I mean for me. Military runs into the state of goodish. WHO's not even looking Paolo? No no there's a Lotta Times grubbed shaw well. Real Madrid get the benefit of the whole thing. That was the other end. It would have been the same decision. The new fifty seven minutes on the call this a great little Jovic customer with the goal. Yeah so lovely backheel to finishes well shootout Denko over the funding for much central midfielder. Six minutes later dion though does get the goal to make it one one Real Madrid. Don't clear on the edge of the bulks manages to create a just enough just enhance ahead. Does it touch Muniz elbow. That's something we're saying. In the build-up young it would ask me matter in the end. Because Casamayor and funding unmarked tejendra homes and make it to one to send a full was headed as well one upstream and the ground book sedan furious with the officials off the game game on the late one Avon on Athletico Madrid. Ten minutes into this. Who would make one? Initially it's offside bother. I would say nope. He's on percentage on say dissuasive. Both this is the end zone and not really much from outlet for for the Ninetieth Minute Abe our guarantee the win Exposito with the goal. But you've got enough ridge jealousies there but nobody on the edge and walks because somebody there. Don't you pay the penalty San. Ah Let's see just not the team. Maybe we expected them to be. They are currently eight points off round Madrid at the top of the table. Remember boss Alona inaction first game post host Valle Verde. They take on Granada Tomorrow to Italy Napoli Against Fiorentina. Anna loves something to go right then that lay at the moment however twenty six minutes. Same thing he could go right for her as a dealer Red Sox uh-huh with the goal of making some sales was the owner. And here they said okay with the chance goalkeeper born into action. Technology says no go would say go though in the seventy the fourth minute making it too. I don't think the goal is you beat. And from there to be honest 'til you walk. Until the seasons end fearing level on points with the host. Meanwhile a lot CEO flying at the moment and it would continue against Sampdoria. Sharia Mugabe cannot stop scorings. Amazing what pumping from the jumpings. Those good hosing from Celtic. Not just seven minutes on the clock Just strong and it's Casado who makes one new funds but look us. I mean we guy shows a law. Australia is it found. No no what should defend the here see here. Seven minutes later penalty given away by. Meru has history on this is a classic case of the new but they still away outside the body. Plays will head to you. You didn't to the back of the Nag's light five minutes later. Three no twenty minutes gone in this game. How easy to speak to the ball in behind them too easy to do discomposed run to keep a fixable expenditure defended? It would be a familiar feeling to the second half last year scoring after a nine minutes past us two three to six players holding Honda. It's open to go on And then another penalty bowling behind his phone in behind that we're going to stop in. Yep Ready Oh didn't give vars maybe just handle this one book as we've gone back to the net and Oh thank you very much some dory get one. I'm back Matteo's brilliant. Form of Lake continues in the most impressive of fashions meaning they. I'll just one point now off into McCain second three adrift of events of the top the phone just go back with some of the bang after the winter. Break Walter game between the and Brusca delman golden thirty four. Minute Ruben evolved gas us with the cross made a left ne making it one now us one of our they just off the brake market richer making it to now Guli. Good as she's flight. Three minutes lights Jillian Brent makes it to one concussive finish Goma and a half. Oh Kitwe keep regards to go up. Don't feel but I didn't but then also we'll make it three. Three one made elect getting his second. She's the fossil coping adding Holland comes on and what debut debut it would be for the young set as he would make it one. Now I've been on a one nil. Sorry I want to make it three two of the big on the pick. The three minutes two minutes later sunshine makes it three three really easy he island would make because he's a lane. Initially this is actually disallowed pro side. Our take take a look and say no. He's on Halloween deal. Thank you onsite. Light on the whole goods. Yes seventy second minute. Go Rhino comes. onto the youngest American ever to feature each and the Bundesliga eleven minutes ago Holland gets his hattrick funniest Johnny Goodness Seventies. Owl's three Borussia Dortmund. Five an eight goal thriller inevitably persuade Harlan. Getting older. How strongly the happened? I was trying to find something from earlier. We're she says former colleague Rafael Hall estate covering the Bundesliga had said in Germany. They don't did you see this call. One hundred what do they call it. Well I don't know because every chairman went for it. It's not because it's a gentleman. What unless it was a part of the account CA Viking? So Hot Trenton. They don't call don't deem trae because reasons are beyond me you in story Lewisham fighting this is never right and you know one on that. Deputy the brilliant really talk about I'm going angle and the United Auto England other leagues and between Heaven. These dodds dodds. who used to play? Obviously I think they made a great decision to say he is still an carve and Germany. Has I've been putting. This thing has been a great platform for youngsters. Gametime Lien on. That's fantastic stop. They've isn't particularly. Don't the okay. We'll look forward to that. Meanwhile like sick of chance to stretch their lead at the top of the table they will take on union lane however ten ten minutes of the game. They find themselves one nil down. Mario Butler would get the goal that would break the deadlock for the visitors life cycle in possession in midfield not most and it would be but didn't make one meal what's Beautiful Finish Pixie Sport Fort Reno Bomb Corner. It was only really the second half and we slapstick would really get going six minutes off the bright team overnight with the goal goalie ally Donaldson enjoying enjoying that six minutes later to who wants to live sync with the goal Portugal. You get your leg up is new seven minutes ago see my Verna gets his second live six third. The Google scholar is brilliant. I'm just a goal scorer comfortable stuff in the end. which for the moment but some five points clear at the top of the table vying Munich in action? Tomorrow as they'll be away against earth points cap getting smaller and smaller. Isn't it between Western leads in the chasing pack fuller with winter just four points now adrift of Ligi Nineteen About Brinson away against QPR. Meanwhile I know you won't be able to sleep tonight. Ladies and gentlemen if you didn't know the full story on the hat trick in Germany Craig Fleet on your research now over to you Mr Stele Guy I forgot what the three goals have to be schooled and the same same half or with a player scoring and between okay. Otherwise it doesn't doesn't count. It's a perfect Jaden Sanjay. School didn't even mm-hmm Yeah Ha shot. Newcastle still accounted. If it was in Germany yes thank you uh-huh cray. We'll be back tomorrow for more speech. Check out extra time until next time. Goodbye puck minutes extra time. Thank you very much for your tweets. Stevie just so some highlights from you against Liverpool Liverpool from the one thousand nine hundred five supercup Stevie was a pretty good defendant. My question for Steve is who is the best. Italian defender of the eight are never mind. We got stace don't excite honestly you slip well number one. Obviously the club must have taken taken some sort of an extra payment to play a one leg tie and you and and that's what we need. And then surprise surprise with children and children run surprise. Stage St stop play the referee in the lanes man. Oh and what was the question as soon as you said the best Italian defender of the AC's some gooden's there is no any wasn't normal area then abide wis ago. He's clearly it was fun to go severe. Do you think Realistically Wolves and get to the top four this season. Well I mean I'll be tough publicly. I'M GONNA say no not enough to get there with other been in Maine. What the other teams are? Five points at the moment No no police caught so last one last year when they lost at United doesn't provide as yeah five points. Yeah Yeah I mean it's doable. And they arguably are as good as the other teams around them. Save me what you think onto the youth league. Yeah and they can just concentrate straightly week-to-week ray good to know don't today what they've got Liverpool Max then united away then Lester home. Three hundred puppets hassle absolutely should not the one good site really good sense as last year. The moment another win for them today. Being appearance in five one term only without Hattrick in that game should they it'd be signing players who attempt a real challenge this January difficult lamb traditionally what the financial such because they don't strike because he's got twenty six goals combs he's flying Thames of going forward different really lane. This is a key member of the Lawson would position Show somebody will remind us but let me terrorists so final question. How long will it take? Tests get asked the winning regularly again chickens long as it takes for them to get to new cliffs a good law and he's a couple of Santa Bucks. 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Caught Offside: Arsenal make a change

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Caught Offside: Arsenal make a change

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This week I'm going to be like a biblical character in the desert. who just doesn't eat a some kind of fast and Penencia Well what a show. We do have coming up for you here today. There's a lot that's gone on. I wonder if people were angry that we didn't have an emergency podcast out after I Got Sacked from his job. Unfortunately all of you who were angry about that all I can tell you was. It was a holiday weekend. I don't know what you want. Want me to say in a situation relation like this but we're making up for it well. Yeah we're doing regularly scheduled. PODCAST account is making up for it kind of forgot all about Niamey. We're GONNA talk about the The weekend's results at Arsenal arsenal. We'll talk about who or well. Yeah I was GonNa say who or what should becoming a next. I think that's just who. I don't think there's any what team that's no sort of plant. Although some arsenal fans fans may prefer that over the last kind of gas lots of other games that this was kind of. I don't know this weekend in the League. Just sort of felt important In terms of a lot of weird results that that went on do you think so. Yeah I do think so I mean Look Manchester City dropping points to Newcastle West Ham beating Chelsea Manchester United Dropping points to Aston Villa Leicester City. Now I think make asserting themselves as the number one title challenger deliver puts but still points back. We'll which is under the pretense that there is a tunnel channel. Yeah I mean you can dismiss that and I wouldn't fault anyone who did But if there is a title Challenger I think this is a weekend where we now have to kind of like change that from one club up to the next. You're looking at me dismissively. It's look very very use to I'm not really So let's get into it right now. Start out with the arsenal conversation. Niamey like I said he gone at the emerets. I suppose it was a long time coming. I can't help but wonder if the recent recent action from Tottenham may have accelerated arsenals decision to do this if there was some sort of feeling like well our north London rivals are now gonNA kick on with a manager that that is going to help them get back on track we. We can't fall behind them any further than we have already. We need to cut bait while while the before this gets out of hand. I think there was no. There was a look towards next season on where they're going to be in terms of of European football if that's even still a possibility It was definitely urgent that they did something. Well here's here's the big question though that I have you say it's urgent and that's interesting to me And look it. It became his position at the club. became untenable if you were somebody who was a new Niamey defender. It was becoming more and more difficult to defend him on a week in week out basis. So I I'm not going to sit here and say that that I'm surprised. He was fired or that he it was unfair that he was fired However I will ask this question? His firing as warranted warranted is it may or may not have been. Does it even matter late. Is there anything within arsenal that you expect to change in the next few weeks. Six as opposed to what we've seen the last several months. Nowy a you're right on and what's interesting is that the less heralded less talked about change could have been the change. That really matters span. Ms Linda came into this club. Boy Vangere was there with the what. What was the Andrew? I don't even know the titles anymore. Director of football sporting director director of sporting football football sporting director. Whatever he had that title and there was signings and moves on a change change in the club that was going to occur under him on he kinda was slid out the door? There was controversy in his firing or removal or his leaving but it just kind of happened. I know we have roles Lahey in there. And he's calling the shots and maybe you know ultimately. Maybe it doesn't matter that it's emory now maybe it doesn't matter who they bring in they may not get the right guy maybe the structures just in the same way that we talk about Manchester United. Maybe it's a structural problem will sometimes. You're right structural problem. WHO's making decisions? WHO's making signings? That is all part of him. But can't we sometime. I just there's one thing in sports not even just soccer. I really think every sport we get away sometimes from what the real issue is and like its player. It's a players problem like I know these are I know. And the sporting director of football science and sporting director of like those are the guys that choose the player. So I get what you're saying but like I don't care who the next manager is that comes in Mustafay Socrates like these are still the defenders for this club. But you know that we the way he's brought into the look at the game at the weekend like there's there's nothing Freddie Ljungberg could have done nothing with that you see you saw the second can half and you've seen again I talk about the playstation footballer where you're trying to move defender and he just shoots completely out of position how many any time that happened every time Norwich not not you know Liverpool Manchester United Not Anybody Knowledge Everytime Norwich went out them. I talk was goal on. Has Todd Cantwell had more outstanding game for Norwich may begin city. I guess but come on. It was unbelievable. I mean teaming Pook the the first goal I know it took a deflection but still is anybody going to close out on this guy. He's really like the only true goalscoring threat for Norwich. I like Dan Lewis. Or are you gonNA step up at any was lanell. By the way Leonov scheme and doc second half I think maybe it was count. Well who who who whip wound to the bottom corner and he tipped it onto the post mean reading art should have won that game. I just wonder and and I I know people think that this is spurs the Andy doing this. But look look arsenal and Tottenham because of their rivalry oftentimes compared with one another. And like you can see why Tottenham would get a new manager bounce from somebody especially a manager of Josie Z.. Marino's quality coming in. Because like I really do believe that there are still quality players on that team just for whatever reason. It wasn't working in the last days of Murchio Patino when when I look at Arsenal I just. I don't know like we know that there's quality upfront with a bomb and lock Kazaa. Like they do have players who are capable of scoring goals. But I just truly feel feel that as long as the defense is what it is. I don't really know how you can expect results to change Like the only thing that I would say is like Nicholas Peppy. You know like a player like that. Who was supposed to be a hugely heralded signing who has now for whatever reason he's just having a hard time getting regular minutes under this manager maybe a new manager comes in who knows how to utilize him in a more productive way week in week out and suddenly because we've seen in have great moments for Arsenal so far it's just been unable to sustain it and I guess whatever they're seeing and training doesn't warrant him playing as much as he probably thinks he should so like? Find somebody who can unlock whatever it is that he can bring that things like that are the are the variables but other than that. I just think this club is Kinda lost right now. I agree with two. It is lost and probably being heading that way for some time and the weekend was just it was just jarring because we know what arsenal are we regularly see them. Give up chances. Says we regularly see them in corporate. But it's not just the defense now android tissue watches said there the midfielder's kind all over the place. It was interesting listening to the people talk after the game sand granite. Jack actually had one of his better games. That's one of his better games. You know everything seemed just a mess and I keep keep going back what I said before. Vote then being loaded up front. I remember getting an email in August right before the start of the season. Who would you soon? Who would you have? And it listed listed Pat Bay Obama Yang lack or silom name for me. No well but hang on. I looked at it and I thought what I'd obviously go with the established three free. There's no question on on a you know nothing would change my mind on that but I looked at the arsenal from three thought. Yeah that's really good but the kitchen is burnt to the ground. A No not the you know the stairs is on fire. Everything it's just window-dressing this front this frontline. We always said their summer. Transfer Window was weird very stranding that kind of resources on pet day when it felt like major quality upfront already and then bringing Davin Louise as you're like in case ace of emergency I'm Kieran Tierney as full becomes a excellent fullback very good signing but it doesn't address happening in in in the center of that Defense I would say that as it stands right now in early December. The most right that I or either of US ever been about anything was the arsenal donal. Summer transfer window period. That and I don't know how good Harry Maguire really is. I think he's a good player. But like the fact that arsenal were never even really in on him and it was all navid. Louise was there big signing to boost that defense is just like because to show how how fans get wrapped up in things Kinko late. Some of those signings are thinking of signing of Centreback wasn't Avid Louise and when we did our predictions I said I think they'll finish outside of the top four. I said I think they'll finish outside of the top six. Maybe and people were like is he on drugs. WHO said that? Oh Yeah I got a lot of that you can you. You can talk yourself into paper teams and extra way will do this or that. But maybe you're right when it comes down to the players and perform. Yeah it's You know when it really felt like I emery had lost the and there's any number of moments where you could say. It looked like he had lost club but This fan base hates measured Ozal but when the the tide turned and the fan base suddenly got on emory for not playing a player that they universally despise than it's like. Well they just hate this man but even that it was a mess. That wasn't even the managers decision the way he framed it so he comes out and he says we have made a decision implicating the board in it showing himself to be week showing himself to be run by the board. If that's the case are trying to pass it off one way. Or the other wasn't a good optic so he was out and on this podcast. I'm saying right. We'll so they're we're going to make a decision that outside of the Koran and cop competitions he's not gonNa play and the next thing it's reversed he's back in where like like. What is this the captain say? Think about how they did. The captain say We'll have evolved amongst the players. You should probably do that. What a manager can control? Is it that rare for players to choose their own captain I. I've never heard of quite like that because all I'm saying is it wound up going that way but like if this was a should I even say this. I don't know Greenwich. He might be great guy who just happens to not be that good at soccer but like I just feel like this is a normal group of arsenal players. They probably would have made a normal cat and see selection. This never would have been an issue but they happen to choose the one player. The fans can't stand if they chose Ozil or Chaka like those would be the only choices that wouldn't have gone over well with the fan base and this this group of players chose a guy that they knew the fans would hate and like a lightning rod so like it backfired on but under any sort of normal circumstances. Like if I wouldn't have gone wouldn't ever been an issue. I think if the manager picks the team Andrew he picks the captain to now. Maybe we're talking too much about the importance of the captain in the modern game but equally it's just another decision that's gone wrong in in many other decisions but allowing it to happen to be chosen. It's hated by the fans suddenly makes your right. The captain may not be an important thing but it becomes. Is that when you do something like that. Yeah the Dow. Now it's an issue. There was a lying the saddest lane before we office the saddest line from a piece by Michael Delaney that I read it the weekend. was how apparently in the dressing room before games as a means to rile everybody up and get everybody going and possibly simply because he didn't have a ton of English are enough inspiring Al Pacino Halftime English. He used to get the senior pros all actually actually all the players to put their hands in right in real kind of fifth grade. Fashion fifth grade fashion and go arsenal arsenal arsenal shouted out as a kind of a motivating thing right. That's yeah you don't see bill. Check organizing that on the sidelines of Patriots Games. No I just maybe it's just a window into the general dysfunction in there but by the way last season the stats didn't lie. They went away to Fulham and they hammered aren't Fulham and they look brilliant going forward and everyone got on our box because I mentioned the the shots they surrendered rendered like twenty-something shots to full like. That's not good. That shouldn't be happening right. And it's all just kind of coagulated now together and it's by Emery Marie. Yeah Arsenals current seven-game winless streak which saw him off is their worst since February of Nineteen ninety-two under George Graham That's that's bad arsenal. One exactly the same number of points in Emory's fifty one games as they did in arson vendors final fifty one games. That's amazing actually had fewer wins Under emory than they did in vendors final fifty. One I ice no progress is zero progress. That's that's what that tells a nice feel bad for emery. I'm Kinda I know. Pet Guardiola likes to talk in very very generous terms about the vanquished. Usually after game where he's amherst someone someone they were so good it would burn. It's easy to be graceful in in victory but I do think that we shouldn't discount what emory didn't spend and and look at it probably an excellent coach but this was we haven't said that he's bad at his job and if anything we said the players he was I think it was a combination of a lot of things. Yeah and he. He wasn't good at ours by the way one other thing And we will move on but like thinking more about Nicholas Pepe. Doesn't it like if you were an American and fan out. There who thought Frank Lampard hated America by his use of Christian Pulisic. Then you must feel like I mean what is I am rethink of the Ivory Coast with the way they've used nickel doesn't make all the American fans that thought that you have to now. Look you have to explain. Well you can kind of remove yourself from the situation and look around sounded other clubs with their young players that have just come into the team and you can see like Oh maybe we. Maybe we jumped the gun a little bit on some of our feelings with regards to pule second lampert. It was an embarrassing period for US funds by the way. I won't mention that I'll wait till I wait till we talk about Chelsea before talk about new stats on. Pulitzer he's the best. Oh I can't wait for that almost want to jump to a right now. We will move off this last thing. I do want to say What's next for Arsenal? I mean obviously I. Don't I think that we necessarily believe Freddie. Ljungberg will be the the long term appointment for this club. There's been all kinds of names turnaround. It doesn't it doesn't feel like there's consensus however af TV formerly known as Arsenal Fan TV DT has spoken and he is in no doubt as to who should take the job. The board needs to act and listen looking at reflecting over the last few days. I think we need to go out and go for Brendan Rodgers. Honestly he's already flirted with the idea. You see some of his press conferences in the last couple of days. I'm with all due respect to less star Rebecca club who long so why would bring them Roach is not want to come. He left in the middle of nearly winning the treble. There's no Louis there. If he's the opportunity and I feel we really go and test them. We could get him and he's primarily proven. I mean it would take tremendous character impression Rogers to leave Leicester at this point again. Brendan doesn't help himself with this stuff. I wouldn't say he's flirting necessarily surly. But he is putting the vibes out. He he enjoys the chase. Oh you does enjoy the cheese and you know. He was asked asked a question about the arsenal job. After the game against Everton at the weekend and about a contra are clause in his contract that would allow him to leave off and he instead of saying no interest. You know you can. There are ways for managers to shut this down. It's okay for you to lie. You could get off Mike and when the camera stops rolling and immediately say who. That was a tough one to lie about but just lie. Brendan would wouldn't write it on a Napkin though he wouldn't say I'm resigning as the hate. See See of the AFC but brandon but be under no illusions. So if we're putting together the the elite three English clubs Andrew of just of of history. It's Manchester United Liverpool and Arsenal. Right he's down the road. I like like forrest gump going for a run. He would run to London for that job because he sees himself want well first of all he wants to get back to that level and he sees himself as someone who should be there so yeah there lester funds. It may not happen now but it's happening. I mean I hate to say it because things are going so well for less than they don't they don't need this right now in this moment but it look like let's all be honest with ourselves. Brendan Rodgers Dream is not to manage Leicester sitting though and I don't know that it's to manage arsenal. But whatever his dream remiz going from Leicester to Arsenal is certainly a step in that direction so Kunshan notorious back at Arsenal. So it's it's unfortunate because things are going so well at Leicester City in his image rehabilitation from the time he left Liverpool to now. Like if you listen to that clip from DT at AF TV and you like fell asleep and are just waking up. Since since Brendan Rodgers left Liverpool. You must be like what has happened in the time sense that this man is now being so highly sought after by a club like Arsenal. It's crazy it is funny and a promises. The final thing. It is funny if you watch that video. TC The kid standing between the interviewer and DT when Brennan Rogers name he he does make a kind of a what seriously We're GONNA talk with Andrew Mangan of our blog. He's been on the podcast with us once before A little bit later on just to get a few thoughts from from him on everything that's gone on there and where the club is at because they are. They're in a bad place right now. They they really are Let's see Jay. We continue now. Manchester City dropped up to more points after drawing with Newcastle. When it looked like they were through thanks to one of the goals of the season From Kevin Debroy. No do you want to hear what it sounded like I want. I want to hear the rigging when it hits the Underside of the crossbar. Here's Peter Jury on the call by thank you Charlie and secure. We need to isolate that noise when it cracks the underside of the cross. They'd like coming or that gives me feelings. What a strike? Yeah amazing goal from an amazing player however John Shelby maybe not quite to the quality of the brain is golden not far off on a really well worked set piece ties. It and peppers the is left stunned as Newcastle playing the foil once again to Manchester City. It's unbelievable Manchester City of dropped thirteen points in fourteen games. This season They dropped sixteen points. All of last season this is a different year. No question about it. Yeah when when Dubrovka denied Gabriella Brielle. Jesus in the second half you thought this is not going to be their day now. I'm not saying that. I expected them to necessarily lose the game board. I felt as if they're going to drop points points here. Yeah and that's a game. Ordinarily with the chances they had they should have won it put Newcastle just kind of hung in there trying to catch them on the break break. Saint Maxime at a Goo- game. I thought I'll Maranan and flashes. He still quite jittery nervous eager to impress put. They were compact impact an honest the Android tink when I see a man city team and the centered feelers Gunderson. And you see Fernan. Dino Plan centre-back enter back alongside Johnstone's. It's like robbing Peter to pay. Paul they're losing house by. I know they have to do something but I think they should try a different an option in defense rather than take Fernan Dino's in the midfield because the midfield jobs. Look if you look if you look at the midfielder's position on the UK asa equalizer an equal soul quickly. First of all Johnston stones did little playstation footballer. Tries to win tackle. He doesn't need to and suddenly. There's a massive gap gap in behind. It was very good. Good Finish goofball by Almar on a good finish by Williams but if you look at Manchester City shape there you just he I think he needs to to have pennies. Have another look at at at that defense and and and maybe come to the conclusion taken for an Indian you put them in. The midfield is the best option. Right I think you make a great point when you say that. I'm never somebody who will be in favor of weakening two positions to try and fix one you know like in the NFL. You see it if like a right tackle gets hurt and you have no faith in the backup so you move. If you're all pro left tackle to try to play right tackle will. Now you've weakened you're left tackle position by bringing in a sub and you're right tackle by having left tackle. Do it like I feel that way watching Fernandina. Where where you know what? Just go back to what you do best and try to figure something else out at the centre back position because right now he was kind of going to be the great x-factor once LaPorte got got hurt and they were sort of forced into the situation where they had to find band aids at that position if he was going to be able to do it. Effectively than Manchester City might have been able to kick on and be all right in defense But I just feel like he's he's just not it's just and it's not his fault it's just not really his position and I think they I agree with you. I think they have to go back to playing him at the spot that he knows. Best One of the thing. I want to mention about this. It's not just about Manchester City it's also about Newcastle. Because if you think about the way the season started protests from the fan base boycott's from the fan base all essentially based around. You could say lack of activity in the transfer window but it seemed more. So based around the appointment of Steve Bruce as their her manager. And this is the guy who grew up a newcastle supporter. And I know he managed Sunderland probably was difficult for a lot of Newcastle fans. To take probably but the treatment that Steve Bruce took leading into this season was just brutal. I'M NOT GONNA say I don't get it. Because Losing Rafa Benitez and the progress that Newcastle were making For a manager like Steve Bruce who it was never had great success as a manager in the Premier League I it sends a statement to a fan base that we are not looking to kick on. We're just looking to survive and that's a dangerous message to send however I do wonder if we're reaching a point where there are some haters out there that might need to apologize. There's fines online online andrew. Who Need to apologize? Bought dare not the same as the journalists. WHO questioned Steve Bruce? There was a lot of people who act asked legitimate questions about selections elections and the way he set up his team particularly in that opening game against Arsenal. And you know people including Steve Bruce's on Alex. Bruce took exception option to journalists asking questions. That's not that's not okay. Equally or the fans personal abuse Steve. Bruce was wrong very wrong. He has two wins and five Andrew. Well well he's now beaten Tottenham. Sorry is it to four. He's beating Tottenham Manchester. Oh on the season or in their last five. Well here one win and five. He's beating Spurs Manchester Manchester United. He's drawn with city. They've also been west hand. They beat born with They actually have more points right now. At this stage than Rafa Benitez did at the same time. Dad a wretched start last season and they turned it round. However Steve Bruce's also doing this without Solomon Ron Perez? WHO turned out to be two of the best? Maybe two best players for Newcastle last year. Yeah but he's he. He got his Brazilian centre forward. Signing which by the way I mean and it's amazing to me in that game and it just goes to show you that the levels of of of analysis of Newcastle Newcastle. Where yeah that's a good point but things are still not quite going their way? The fans were on his back. When Jordan was taken off there was i? Won't let's say there wasn't jeers there wasn't you know but there was a bit of a sigh of relief because it was a heart yet horrible game and that is a big piece there. You know he what he he was some money given to him to replace those guys. That's true that is true but I think right now Steve Bruce's overperforming. What even his most ardent detractor would've thought an and I? I don't mean to be arden detract her but you know. They lost two nil last week against Aston Villa. I mean this is a point. This is a good point but they are are not fixed. Not Fixed and Steve Bruce has done a serviceable job. No more than enough but I mean. Do you WANNA get into an argument on this. That's like not really but I just think we need to be careful. It's it's easy in the moment now. Too but expectation management is is also a thing and like for what the fan base thought. The club was going to be when he was named their manager. And the fact that they're ahead of where Rafa Benitez had a year ago. That has to say something actually about the job he's doing with with a really below average squad dots fair that is fair because what wasn't it. They had two wins and thirteen at this point last season. So let's see West Ham. I'm talking about a club that was in dire straits. It seemed like there manager was on the brink any day now of of having lost his job and then he goes out and he beats Chelsea one nil and this is kind of the game when I said at the start of the podcast. That like the weirdness of the season I feel like it's games like this where you really see that kind of crystallized is that this year is just kind of different in the way of. I don't know maybe it was like this before but just more than I can remember. It feels like anyone can beat anyone any given week. Rice prices except Liverpool an ordinarily. Chaz he would win. This game came across my timeline. Andrew Chelsea have won just four of eleven games at Stanford Bridge. Why is there a way record so much better than at home? This from Alan Smith. He wrote this piece they shoot more. They concede fewer chances and have a higher percentage of possession at Stamford Bridge. But it's no longer just coincidence and players can't explain why yeah it's one of those odd things there they they were clearly dominant at the weekend Bush. One of those freak results that was thrown up but West Ham doing this. Is I just. Didn't I suppose a derby changes changes the dynamic a bit. Anything can happen in Derby cliche. I guess so But I don't know the way things were going like you said with West Ham. Here's here's a something I saw Nick Miller right at ESPN AFC the kind of talks about. Just like the weirdness that we have the season Every team between Tottenham and fifth and Everton Tendon Seventeenth has one either four or five games season. Those thirteen teams are separated by six points. Two Games ago Tottenham were in fourteenth. Now they're one position away from the Champions League places. The gap between Fifth and top is twenty points. The gap between fifth and bottom is twelve. Now that doesn't all apply to Chelsea because they are just on the other side of v However it does speak to just what this season is that just you know however bad. You're doing At any given moment your two weeks away from completely writing your ship and feeling much better about yourselves and maybe that's West Ham right now. Feels like Gwen. From the moment we started this podcast and particularly talking about the Premier League. Mean you always said there's a kind of a mid table Moshe there's emotion teams that can go on a little run and suddenly not rocket up on kind of tap at that top six and then they fall back down that Bush has been extended it's grown it's grown substantially it's grown. It's like the BLOB. It's growing and it's a problem Let's see along the lines of clubs and results. That just aren't up to par Manchester United A to draw with Aston Villa and with manager starting to drop like flies only has to be worried alarm bells. Have to be going off there well. It was October whom we were told this by Jason. Burt Bert of the Daily Telegraph. All is looking at a three year vision of squad it will be in evolution over the coming years. We are at base camp know what's below base as camp. There is nothing that's at base camp is at now. My problem with this is I read this in the Atlanta Athletic. This this morning. which just is it staggering really? Unfortunately for Solitaire it leaves him with Twenty Six points from twenty two primarily games. That's the weekends begins. Draw since united awarded him. The job soldier has worn six drawn and lost eight and perhaps the best way to put that into context is that it is a worse record than the sequence of results that is just cost emery his job at Arsenal but they seem waited or committed to the idea we're not chopping. And changing and that all is indeed the man we need to put the structures around him and Gary Neville Assaying and Guy Neville close to Oregon or saw three to four transfer windows. I can't see it see. There's some I think it's kind of an admirable stands for Manchester United. I'm just surprised that they're taking it now with him right flight David Moyes surely if all they're gonNA solve share based on his CV TV is getting this amount of of of leeway. Surely David Moyes deserve more than eight months. Well I only Jews Marino deserved longer. Even right and and that's the thing is like this manager has no track record so for this to suddenly be the moment where you say. No we are going to stay the course with a manager that has never really proven didn't before not by anyone's fault just simply by like lack of opportunity like this is the moment now where we're GonNa see this through to the end when like you said there's been more accomplished managers that have not been given the same treatment as as sacked in an elevator after winning the fake. Yeah it's very strange the eighteen points that united have at this point in the season as their fewest after fourteen games since eighty eight eighty nine when they finished eleventh in the table. I mean that's that's dangerous and you see things like this united. They've had second-half leads in each of their last three matches and all competitions and they've come away without a win in any of them I mean like how do you explain things like that from happening not the ability to or the inability to finish games. It's it's worrisome stuff again. I'm kind of caught in between two mines because I sort sort of like the idea of changing managers on an annual basis. And he's got to show you something to suggest that your long-term putting pushing your chips to the center of the table for this guy is working a couple more quick ones here. Josie Marino makes it three for three with spurs in all competitions It'd be hard to ask for more encouraging. Start than what they've given you and I look at one player in particular as kind of being the living embodiment of that as a Deli Alley. Who for what it's worth revered Murchio? Jio Patrick Tino and seemed really emotional after Pocchettino was sacked But whatever it is Marino has been doing with this player. He has changed daily Allie from the player that we saw over the last several months To the player we're seeing now he. I mean over these last three games. He's been the best player on this team. Three goals in an assistance essence Marino took over in three games. He had two goals and one assist. In the previous ten games for Tottenham. He's been the playmaker I know Marino talked about wanting to play him more as maybe a number of more of a number ten role And if that's what they're doing it certainly working because he has been at the center of of really everything. Good that has happened for Tottenham under this manager manager. He needs to start talking more to Eric Dire. Then it's you know it's something I thought Eric have you a brother against against Olympia. Kurt Dyer was was taken off after twenty seven minutes and and and he wasn't hurt. It was purely tactical Tottenham went down two nil. It looked like a disaster. It looked like that their Champions League dream of getting to the knockout stage was going to collapse under this game at home against Olympia Coz they took off dire and everything changes score four straight. And they're going through the knockout stage and I saw that and I thought well that's Erik dire done with this club. And then the three four days later he's in the starting eleven Marino we always we said Marino finds his guys that he likes. And even when you think maybe the tide has turned eric. Dyer was always going to be one of those guys. Marina was desperate to get united and Tottenham wouldn't let go of him Probably their detriment. I mean the united. We're trying to get for forty million. What's Eric dire worth now? like he's right back into the starting eleven and Tottenham have other guys that can play those positions. Sion's I mean in. La Harry Wings you can you can rotate. You can go with those two spots. But no no Josie Marino's Tottenham Hotspur will be eric dire tire giving the ball away forever. The thing I'm trying to figure out with with Tottenham right now is is this new manager bounce or is this actually what Tottenham probably should've been all along I would say the latter let's be fair that's encouraged and I think it I think it is the latter He hasn't had long enough to break their spirits and trampling down into the Dole. automatons that he needs them to be He's only had X.. Amount of training sessions. Look he definitely has perked up. Someone like daily. There's no question about that but we are still in. We are still running on big potch energy here. When potch was at what is best? These are his players these guys. And what's what we've seen executed so far has been the the momentum given by the previous manager so which had dissipated dissipated so ma so if you don't know what you're saying essentially is not he's from any Marino has lifted the place he's revived the place but you can't say that he in this short period of time time that he could possibly have created what what's happening. So you're tactically is what you're saying like nut nut doing is like well I don't I don't even I don't understand it. How can you so? He's not responsible for any of this. No I are you looking at and saying on Doc Marino dare dot gold air. That was Marino dots. That can you see his fingerprints on this team yet. I mean well let me ask you. Then what is a classic Marino go. Well look like a screw question all right. You're just learning a narrative. Well no he's not just a long ball manager not fair that's not true but the greatest managers After Sir Alex Ferguson I it might be him next like I can't just say he's a guy that got by with long ball no of course. I'm being facetious. But the last few MON onside at United it was so just clueless and it really still colours my view of him so look again player problem. What have united been since Josie Marino left? They have bad players like what people expect. So Marcus Rochford on the left one week left wing in left midfield and then right midfield the next. Not No one sane. Josie Marina was pushing all the right buttons. But I think that he recognized. That squad was fought by the way some of his own doing like a lot a lot of his moves and thanks so I'm not gonna say that he's absolved at any of it But like if you don't if you don't have talent you have to resort to tactics that like are going to like what what you're doing right now are GonNa Shave your opinion. What if we were having this conversation after he left Chelsea when they were probably one of the more enjoyable teams the first reverse the first? Yeah exactly well. Wh when you have good players well it can be fun to watch. And you're just sitting here saying Tottenham have good players. So why shouldn't it be fun to watch under Josie. Uh when is the maybe maybe he's like like we said last week he has looked himself into a scenario where he has all the players. He's ever wanted navy. 'cause he tried to sign four of. Yeah I know. He's in a scenario where he can actually just sit back and let unleash them. Upon the primary even has a ballboy that he probably would have paid fifty million for a AH Chelsea in his final season. He was attacking ballboys. Remember the one at Selhurst Park. Yeah they clearly mean a lot to him. His agent was in his ear. Though you know that he was it was spontaneous. Is it happened. Instantly Josie New Josie. He's GonNa like ballboys I he's GonNa like them. Okay I will try. Did you see they. They had the kid in for the preteen meal on On Saturday last person treated ballboys as well as that was twenty pubis At Stoke because their job was to towel down the ball for rory delap for the long throws I will say like in watching the way that played out with that kid count count was a Callum Hayes boy's name I care not very important but like it does go to show. Everyone at a club does matter in some way definite i. I mean that kids should get an assist for that goal. Sam Is the kid at Anfield ruled the ball back quickly to Trent Alexander Arnold for the quick corner. Yeah and by the way like those kids also have the power. Whereas we've seen before with Josie treatment ballboys to go the other way and like when has basically assaulted a ballboy? Joseph Aku one as well or was it in hazard we'll hazard shoved one like tried to get the ball out of the kids hands shoved around at Swansea. That was yeah. Everyone matters. Everyone matters right down to the cheese plates pillows all of that. She's pets pillows and the tea lady. Always one that's brought up Yep Two more quick ones and they both involved clubs in Liverpool Everton. Jj with a truly soul crushing loss in a time when they and this manager really didn't need it that was his face. You couldn't you. You'd have to have a heart of stone to watch marco. Suva on the sideline when that goal went in Karachi in our show. Oh who if you told me. Colletti Nacho was at like Alania Vladikavkaz on loan I would have been okay fine. I I've heard of them in like fourteen turns out to be such a disappointing move. Move well but besides that Everton were just defending was bad on the goal definitely put it was just such a you know if you look at the way the Brighton game finished Sheffield United at home. I guess was a little bit like that with a late goal to has been so much much of this for them on a now gone right going into the Derby on Wednesday I know look we said and I think like I. I still wonder if this this is true. This stretch of games that they have Everton right now. Leicester City right into Liverpool. Just a few days later this is this is a brutal stretch and it just feels like a horrible horrible time to make any kind of managerial move. I think you just have to hope that like maybe Marco Silva can get a couple draws somewhere in this in this set of games and that that would have really been a candidate over the weekend that they missed out on And just keep them as like. I still don't believe that Everton is a true relegation candidate but just keep them away from that mark as much as they can And make some kind of move once you get out of the New Year another Kluber. You wonder what's going on at board level between Weenie ownership between the kind of legacy chairman. The have their who appears to be trying to pull the strings and Bill Kenwright. It's Marcel brands ends as well. I suppose he didn't. He didn't really appoint Silva Mars brand given the job untold. Here's your manager. Well well by the way even if he did let's not suddenly act like the whole world wasn't thinking that was a good appointment at the time for Everton. It felt like he was the up and coming managers. Still ask questions though. We liked him when he came in at whole they still went down. Waterford we put it down to the fact that Waterford get rid of their managers quite quickly as we've seen as we've seen this weekend and sometimes twice and so we gave him a lot of passes and it just. It hasn't really worked no at all. Yeah a lot of money is being unspent and there's a new stadium on the way it's just it's all bad. Yeah Oh dan need. A- battling nil-nil against Liverpool from Wednesday would do a lot for them in the morale table. Who would you say is bottom bottom in morale like if we were if we were like had a table based on like high morale versus low morale who Everton bottom at Arsenal in the relegation zone? Day are but no. They're slightly above it because at least they've got rid of their manager. There is an open road to to to happiness I guess or you could have road fraught with obstacles still. It's their right now so as we speak as we sit here on Monday civil still there the low. I'm going to try to make a low morale table at some point. See See who is going to be there. You paint this image of need you. Actually more morale is down today. Yeah Laura I'll be honest it's coming through on the show. It's not I'm I'm coming in. I'm I'm probably a Mabanda avant. I'm telling stories all well. This will help Liverpool. They're just never going to lose again. their they're forty points so far this season tied for the best fourteen game start to a season ever. We've hit that magic mark that we won't be relegated. No Yeah you're right. Congratulations you're staying. Up Man City had forty points after four games in the seventeen eighteen season. That's the kind of season that we're talking about right now with your club I mentioned Janek Miller before he he also wrote something kind of his weekly observations from the Premier League that really only Liverpool can stop and when you see things like I mean. Obviously injuries are one thing There's you know there's no rhyme or reason for why they occur. They're hard to predict. And whatever but like stuff like allison the redcar things like that I. It feels like those are really the only things that can trip them up. Because it's it doesn't feel like now that we've seen handle Manchester City You know we'll find out when they face Leicester but like it doesn't don't feel like there's any team that's going to be able to outdo them on the field. It's going to have to be some sort of mistake or like rash of injuries that slow this team down yet. Don't see it. Well I think actually they're going to have to dig deep. There's there's the injury is going to have to be absorbed. Somehow there is your I mean goalkeeper's only short-term when he's out for the Everton Game Jan is a more than capable replacement but there's there's just been a bit of a fall off across the last two to three games. They're not quite out there. Little bit off. You torn a few injuries. You throw in a centreback. We're still seeing DEJEAN. Lovran centreback the worst talk future shaky moments there at the weekend. They didn't that midfield again. I keep saying to people did. Don't they're not going to dominate you in terms of control in the same way that Manchester City will they do it a different way and so when you lose a cog like the beano I worry I worry. That's fair because he's been playing so well So there's no. There's no ready made replacement for him in there either. So I know but I just feel like they are. They have players around in a great position. There's no question that is is true like they can afford to be bad for a month and still probably be fine because we just don't trust so many of the club's beneath them right now I'll tell you what let's take a very quick break when we come back. We're going to talk a little bit more about Arsenal with Andrew Man of the Arse blog. He joins US next. Don't go anywhere geico presents. Not again another voicemail from your roommate man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the back door open. Shots lifted wide open. While you're there could you also turn off the oven. And all all of the burners mom never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected. Like if it's your roommate's it's first time operating in oven visit GEICO DOT COM to see how easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance talk show back now on offside. Jj We'll be talking a lot about of course what's going on with Arsenal over the past several days it's been a rocky period and when those things tend to happen with that club we speak with Andrew Mangan of ours ars blog. I believe the last time we had him on was in. Not One vendor was no more but in the final days when it seemed like things were imminent So when when Heiser shellacking from Bayern Munich. Okay Yeah So once again Andrew Mongan of ours blog. What's up man? How are you? I'm okay. We're good good. It's good to To speak with you again. Although I know you probably would prefer these conversations take place under happier circumstances for your club. I guess the first thing that we want to talk about with regards to Marie Rian him being out at Arsenal what was the ultimate downfall with him at this club. I don't think there was one thing to be honest to like desk. By as in cuts to be honest because there are so many issues going on ultimately came down to performances and the Camden stilts just weren't good enough Going back last season as well the end of last seminars. Full should've Clyde for the Champions League and blew it in in spectacular style Losing the earlier reliable and then this season winning just for thirteen primarily games and never be addressing any of the issues that the team at the pressure was. It's just too much to ask for a season to salvage and they could only do one thing and that was to set him guilty of starting all over again Andrew Andrew. At what would you put your finger on in terms of the way they played the team selection was something particularly that annoyed. You vote emory and that made this untenable. I think probably the fact that over the course of eighteen months the things that he said he was going to be better. He never did so we. We don't know arsenal hot issues. Simply they were never fixed we know the midfield was a problem. That was never sorted out. I I I think that the what I liked about. Emory was this tactical flexibility that he brought and and being able to play from fourteen different systems and I it just became a mess. The lack of system see the lack of curl he Asian and the way that the team was set up Played a significant role in the way the team performed. I think they ended up being confused and just not really understanding what it was. I wanted them to do from one game to the next or even from one hassle football all to the next so it all just became a mess and and Just never having produced football. People like to think arsenal snows should be playing attacking exciting. Fleeing football just never came to pass so all of those things and more just reduce downforce Apple Andrew. I think one of the things that were having a hard time figuring out or at least myself I don't WanNA speak for JJ. But the twenty two match unbeaten streak under I am. I mean that that was a thing that happened like I did something change from then to now or was that streak in itself may be a little bit misleading. Their luck involved in that. I mean wh what kind of gone on since then. I think you're right was it was a bit of involved because I mean look credit to any manager in any team that goes twenty two games without losing using. You know you're doing something right. There's no question about that. But what the what the stats and the underlying metrics. where she knows was that are so? We're giving too many chances to the they were scored goals and they should have not seen as many as they should have and the fear was that ultimately that will that will shelter some not that proves the case to be honest Andrew Looking forward. I suppose the weekend's game did you see anything from Freddie Ljungberg that suggests you know that he may be somebody who could take team going forward or are you looking at that long long list of Arsenal candidates. That's the most likely place. You'll get your new manager did you from. It's really hard to say because he only had one trice action with with Iras. You know so. I don't know that there's anybody out there who could come man. Would that liberal preparation SORTA Marietta problems. That are still have you know Think you could. Could you know. Even Jesus Christ will come down to perform that kind of America over there in that space of time. I think the worst thing signs in the in the own fifteen twenty minutes of the game in terms of how are approaching the game they want it to be frontloaded one-lane position half. They wanted to move the ball more quickly. So those things were promising. But it's still way too early to say whether Freddie Freddie is the right guy or or you know. They've got a big big decision to make now in terms of who they bring in and you know. The trajectory is downwards with Arsenal. I'm at this moment in time and jobs around the line. Not just the next manager that comes in but the people rentable Sides Football Club Ralston. I'll send you. He's the head of football editor whose technical director But emory's only gone three or four days so we don't really know quite how far down the road they are things somebody you you know pointed out that you know since emory he's gone been maybe a dozen names In the frame and that doesn't suggest that that arsenal are are honing in one. One man it means. They've got a lot of balls in the air. They're juggling a lot of balls. The the first managers that were being linked to there isn't any real real commonality between them. These guys are all quite distinct in the way that they would manage and approach the game and and take the club forward hopefully flee so I I think it's all very fluid dominant time. I'm not quite sure what's going to happen. Too much for. Women happened either. Yeah definitely a period of uncertainty for Arsenal. There's no no question about that. I'm sure when things get sorted out with a with a little bit more certainty we We'll catch up with you again. Andrew Mangan of spark. Thanks so much man pleasure anytime. Our thanks to Andrew Mongan the blog We'll see what direction they choose to go. If it is Brendan Rodgers. If it's I don't know I mean I I agree. Ah I had said. Ten Hug for Tottenham Arsenal or also a team that like to play open the tax style so I would throw his name in there for them as well as a good or a bad thing to have. All those is options are big of a list. I don't know yeah I don't know I do have a male back I do have mailed by. That's your soccer pod I what caught offside. ESPN on instagram. Caught off Saipan gmail.com follow us. Send US emails. Leave us a review on. I tunes I would not Shown Girardin. I don't think there's enough talk of Alexander Arnold as best player in the world player thoughts. Love the POD. No I mean I'll defer to you. I think he's possibly the best player in his position in Europe. Right now There's nothing wrong with saying that. Best Player in the world. Who I don't think so? I mean it's too much like I don't mean to not take the question seriously because like you said if you're the best player in the world at your position than certainly it's okay for you to be in the conversation but like if someone picked him in a world and see. Yeah Trent like right and also you. You think that the the players that are open these kind of conversations occupy maybe maybe a central midfield role strike role in the case of verge of dykes centre-back role not usually centrebacks. But more attacking like it's not a slam dunk that he's the best player on this team. In fact I would say he's I don't think he is. The you see the problem. That the reason Sean. It's kind of a good question is that he is redefining a position. He is playing like a creative attacking midfielder. A what in a as essentially as a fullback. Yes which I not doing it. And it's not. He's not doing it as a winger who beats goes and goes down the line. It's totally new. We haven't really seen this before. And that's why it's probably come to Shawn's attention that nobody's talkin about them as the best player in the world player. I suppose. Here's another while one too well questions to open up and cry Joseph Slower what about Potch to MLS. I know it's a long long star. Wars intro Rolon crawl shot but why not oath Andrew you can feel up. I don't think that's where he wants his career to go. I don't say that as any slight to MLS. I don't know but we will be taken as a slight. Jj like wh WHOA. Why would he? Why would he do that? Exact how much time do we have to spend as much okay. Let's move on 'em Luciana nine one six on the instagram's on the coverage of Chelsea versus West time there was talk of John Moss to stop refereeing and devoting more time to his record shop. The vinyl whistle. What kind of music does he have their music and football collide again? Can either of you come up with a better football related record shop name while I have red card records. Why is that better than the vinyl whistle? I don't think it is but it's it's pretty good Maybe it's a bit too on the nose bit but obvious So in looking at the vinyl whistles twitter feed Their most recent tweet was nine minutes ago. And it's a picture of several albums here Lot of stolen roses. I'm seeing forever delayed Manic Street preachers. Good yeah lot of stuff from the Welsh. Banda's Donovan Youth. I'm seeing Nice. Jam Nice Let's see Bernardo Butler not familiar with Bernard Butler. Yeah Yeah Uh it's written vertically. It's very hard to read. But Bernard Bernard Bernard Butler okay. Yeah I read the article. Gilan Planet. FOOTBALL DOT COM. Bernardo is very good. It's in Headingley which is close to Leeds University leave West Yorkshire I think so well That's pretty cool. I would love to own. A record store accepted. So does he work there or is it just like something that he has like financially backs. While the interviewer for planet football met him there and they had coffee and looked at records very cool he bought it. Why wouldn't you yeah? and He. He he's hoping Farley smits are very popular there. I mean it's it's a record shop in England I'm sure Universe Sake Bet. Yeah but I mean. University still buying Smith records as kind interest hits. Every what's old is new again. You know how things work in this hipster Culture Ivy Smith. Final won't surprise you re seven ten Listening to pod no funny story of West Ham's goalkeeper Roberto. When he played at Benfica he led in some shocking goals and in Portuguese they refer to it as frankl which literally translates translates to chicken? So someone snuck doc in a chicken and threw it onto the field so furry for liver with their jokes in Portugal. We should probably mention the performance of David Martin. At the weekend who made his primarily debut at age thirty three for West Ham in victory and his Dad Alvin used to play safer West Ham united and the embraced afterwards in the stands in a lovely touching moment. So that was the to do that against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge as your as your debut debut. Thirty three good for him. Great and This is from Carlos. Andreas I am a twenty six year lawyer from Lima Peru and have been listening to the pod for more within two years. Now I absolutely love what you do. I listen to money. Football podcast and see a lot of programs were former football players and coaches analyze and comment on the latest matches transfers. And I love listening to them but what you guys. It's something else. It is something else. Yes you see I love my job I love my family. My friends All all in all I live a pretty happy life but as I grow older I find less and less joy and things because experiences start becoming familiar. Maybe it is that routine kicks in but but no sports as I tell the interns and the law firm I worked for sports and football are one of those things that can and that is what your podcasts means to me. Just a couple of labs you enjoy joyful ball playing it and watching it even if we are not professional fraud along our feels like dig for all the long hours and problems I might have to deal with on a daily basis as is just part of life. I get to put my headphones on Jim or on my walk back home and listen to you get excited as a child would and as I am millions do over again the beautiful game for a Nice Nice. Isn't it very nice. I've always said what we lack in expertise we make up for in presence. We're here we exist. We are thinking yeah. sentient beings with microphones. Just wanted end with questions. You guys have any particular was very nice though Super Nice Lima Peru. Yeah Do you guys have any particular. TV show shows or movies fiction or not fiction. Sport related that you like in can recommend to me personally. I Love Sunderland till I die. I looking for Eric Friday night lights so I I would just tell you right now. Give the Leeds United one if you liked Sunderland till I die Take me home. Leeds United Amazon Prime. Give that a watch and maybe even warnock the documentary. God we've gotten some great material from that. Yes show warnock. The documentary from Vivo six which is just there are times when he's just the most reprehensible human being but you can't take your eyes off him no you you can't Finally Griff bitching says what are the odds. We've got an all Ireland playoff game in the euro's do think any problems order would arise we. Should we did talk about that Last week was it weeks ago. Yeah there's a good chance yeah I don't think right now. With the political climate there will be any any problems. It would be a grudge match of grudge matches. But I don't well defined problems you're talking about. It's the bar then. Yeah maybe not that Komo in one thousand nine hundred three when we play them into work qualifier was nasty and people were being killed in Northern Ireland. There was massacres going on. None of that is going on right. Now but you'll hear nasty sectarian things that that hasn't gone away. Actually finally finally question is this one. Ola wants to know where some of our drops come from or what. What is the story behind them like? Oh it's crap or check you later. So Oh it's crap is. Brian Cloth Wall shouting at his own players during a training session Check you later. That was you you doing. An impression of European Klinsmann Used to call into the show as fake urine clansman. And that was how you would say goodbye Check your later fun boy. Correct was kind of a callback to the simpsons. Right yes it was which was yes simpson's episode so we Kinda mad that's probably from like five years ago. Oh yeah definitely. And the Maradonna dropped came back last week because the anniversary wasn't not was. Yeah here's Diego Maradonna or a Donna. A year ago being asked about the quality of League Amex I Now the problem with that is that I honestly believe some people just listened. Listen to the PODCAST for that. Well then they love this podcast today is that it. That's it all right. Good stuff at the Osaka Pot on twitter caught offside ESPN on instagram. Instagram is I caught sight. ESPN instagram that's it the pros that we are yeah. Let's see. We got a very quick what to watch for a SEC. Bud Ah I. Jj I have something to tell you something very important to tell you. quit makers of the electric toothbrush want you to know the one single. Discover that matters most for your dental care is simply this. If you have good habits you are good. That means brushing for two minutes twice a day and floss regularly no matter what brand new use quip makes. 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That's right JJ. I I don't know what kind of toothbrush you're using but I guarantee you. It's not as good as equip What to watch for you ready? I am Only a few that I have for you I just went mid week. I did not extend into the weekend. All right just. I know that people Wednesday thirty Manchester United and Tottenham as Josie Marino returns to Old Trafford. I still don't know what Manchester United fans think of him. It seemed like he left and there were there was a segment that fan base. That I really did like him I they never really turned on him. Yeah he played the crowd very well while he was there yeah I I don't I don't think Danny rancor going back there Wednesday three fifteen Liverpool and Everton at Anfield as you would expect is exhibit game. Of course it's huge and I don't I expect Liverpool to put in a performance and if they I'm sure there's Evertonians who are fearing during this dreading this. Yeah this comes at a really bad time and I'm wondering whether the the equalization that a derby has like look at last season in Liverpool Fluke to win but whether when you're in that Everton were in good form then when when you're at this low ebb like this basement level can everton actually pull themselves up to to put in performance. I don't know yeah I I don't know either. I think Marta Silva if he wants to keep his job he can lose but I just think it can't be a four nil. No they have to have some some sort of good account of themselves but man a short week against that club on the road there stats and metrics. That's a Everton are not as bad as their results probably true so maybe maybe me facing them getting up for this and putting in a performance is won't be quite as challenging as but erase. It doesn't really feel that way. And then Thursday three fifteen arsenal and Brighton. Brighton right and who have kind of been a sneaky club this year To some of the bigger sides arsenal of course in just this weird flocks that we've been talking about all show long so I would not right that off so quickly as an arsenal win Especially because they have struggled at home as well so yeah look out. I don't know I could see I could see that being another one one one draw potentially but we never talked about Arsenal Norwich this past weekend. How Fortune at Arsenal where to even have gotten a draw we did? I said that well imagine the Obama a young penalty that was saved but then VR brought it. Back as maxine had encroached. Yeah we didn't mention that I mean that's that's for to witness if if you've ever seen it let's see. Jj brings down the stretch card. You WanNa go first. Yeah I'm just jamming this one in here because I don't really feel strongly about it. I feel you. I feel bad that I'm doing this but my red card is to Hertha. Berlin for Hiring Uragan Clinton's why but why would you pick annoying annoying noise relationship on the inside with the ownership of Arthur Berlin bought. Why European Klinsmann? What does your Klinsmann Don to suggest that a team and in a eminent Perot will not imminent berlet's? They've still got time to turn this round but who are struggling. What does he should never be allowed to manage again again but he did that? Bad at NEO s but wins. His last job was was fought Bayern. Munich what a decade ago over a decade ago Rafeh Haunting Stein in the athletic has a really good piece. If you're a subscriber you should you should read this. It's it's dripping with contempt attempt. He doesn't outright say like I am but but some of the things he says I I had to chocolate about Klinsmann. He says he's flown in from California. As a managerial Ajaria air air ambulance tending to a patient that's critical hurt. The Word Sixteen place with eleven points before the weekend much closer to Bundesliga to than the European places places even though the Grit innovator of two thousand six was careful to downplay the need for wholesale. Change at is unveiling on Friday heart. There must hope that he can reinvent himself. If this rescue mission isn't to end in failure. His aim to quotes gain confidence via engagement energy. Running fighting is unlikely to make a good plan in a league. Where every single club Lucienne fibers Dortmund possibly accepted play the same aggressive style complemented by some mm-hmm well-defined tactical ideas? He then goes on to talk about what we all talk about about his time at Bayern Munich. which was he was a bit loose on the old instructions? Yeah this is a guy who is living. Say One of his one of the things he wants them to do was running gain confidence via engagement energy running and fighting anything. That's a direct quote like this is. I don't know we have he's eight. There's been a lot of revisionism in the light of Bruce Arena. Lena and in the light of the the tricky problems we have right now with Gregg shelves. There's a lot of revisionism about how much better it was under. Uragan are who. He had a plan. Dan I'm not sure that he did. Yeah I don't know either although I still kinda come back to the point of They were average under Bob Rally. They were average under your again. They were average under Bruce Arena. They've been average under Gregg Berhalter. Maybe we're average okay and a lot of people. Do Subscribe to that players players play. Michael Kalani Northern Ireland Finland Iceland that all Bookstore Trent Let's see JJ my red card. Here I'm also kind of shoehorn. One in that. I just feel like needs to be mentioned. A little personal pet peeve Steve of mine And this is so menial But this is my safe space. Where event my thoughts and feelings to all of you find people out there in this bothers me the European championship ship draw? Why is this a thing that needs to happen before we even know all the teams that are involved Like why I I know. It doesn't matter but I just don't get why we can't wait for the field to actually really be finalized before revealing groups. Jj Imagine this exchange happened between you and I Jj made you dinner. Oh that was nice of you. What did you make me chicken or steak or fish or salad? Oh well that's not super helpful Andrew. Which one is it well? Jj actually don't know. I haven't decided yet. Okay Okay Andrew. Well wouldn't you have just waited to tell me that you made me dinner when you actually knew what you'd be making good point. Jj I'll get back to you. When I've decided like why I mean I guess? They announced the cities as well. So that's like Ireland will play two games in Dublin. After qualifying could end up in. Bilbao I guess. I guess there's some kind of this whole thing is a mess. Let's be honest. Honest the qualifying mass for you used to love this tournament. There's nothing left in this sports. The reformatting of this tournament V. A. are in the Premier League. You really you you come in here. Sullen and sad every week. Now come on. Sport is just a shell of what it once was for you as a boy Roy showed no. That's not true. Don't enjoy it anymore. It's not true it's just lawyers golfers know what what there is. There's a bunch of people blazers who go around marketing. People who aren't football people are supporters. who go around deciding? The things need to be changed. That were just fine on. It's greed greed greed more more more. Oh we'll have a European championship like think about it. Twenty years ago we had a European championship where we had it in Holland and Belgium two countries and that was seen as excessive excessive. But it's too small country sixteen teams now. What we're doing? We're having it everywhere right. Coma like twenty four teams and we still don't even know who's qualified two months out from the tournament. We we won't know. I guess it does bear mentioning some of the the notes. Take away from the groups I mean obviously everybody's talking about group F which features Germany France Ladas that about abortion. Well why would you have. All those teams indicates the draw. What do you think this is rigged? Why would they rig that all three eighteen technically will get out potentially yeah? Yeah that is true Although I would say right now if one of them doesn't I've got this weird feeling about Germany entering some Kinda like what Italy was in recently and now Italy is very much out of it feels a long-term funk maybe not long term but like maybe this cycle maybe they just. They didn't get out of their group of the world comment which was a far easier group than that and we don't even know who the forty the fourth team in that group might wind up being Iceland which yeah that's that's brutal right there. England or with Croatia again Yup and the and the the only two teams that have beaten them and competitive foot Bolan in a long time are in their group and potentially Scotland. which would be really fun or Eric? browde highlands Norway Novi. Yeah Yeah or the Serbs the Serbs or go to Serbia Croatia matchup which could potentially happen would would be forgot about. That could be an interesting one as well Yeah but we'll get more into that certainly as well once we know the groups Thursday the twenty sixth of the March boy. That's not for a while. You longtime longtime feet away caught offsides man of the match. What do you got Cristiano Renaldo scored his. I went to school since October. Rescued a point and A to Syria. Draw against the pseudo and Turin on Sunday as the Italian champions draw points for only the third time. This season Renaldo netted from the penalty spotted with the second half to end his four-match goal drought in all competitions and denies the pseudo their first ever win in this fixture. But it's not about 'em what a debut this was from eighteen year old Pseudo goalkeeper Stefan autodata karate was given his debut after both keepers ahead of him in the pecking. Order are had sustained injuries. I honestly don't have the words so many motions. It all happened so quickly and I never expected this was an extraordinary sensation and an incredible day from he told disown incredibly Gianluigi Gianluigi Buffon had already made over a hundred Syria appearances by the time to ratty was born in September two thousand and one carding football Italia. It was an honor to play against G G G Buffon Charity said as I used to watch him. When I was growing up? I I am so happy and shocked that I don't even know what to say. The first thing I have to do now is called. My mom was quite a debut Toronto. The highlight of which was a save on Renaldo. Free Kick One final note on that game. GERMY bogus finish on the first Sisulu goal is it sensual. Andrew Very sensual is very nice speaking of central. Jj My man of the match. It's been too long since I feel like I've made Lionel Messi my man of the match now by the time. You're listening to this. It bears mentioned that he may have one the balance door but I actually gave him. I met before I even knew whether or not that happened. Simply because of what happened over the weekend Jay. We've got a legit tuttle race going on right now in Lal Iga and he. He is starting to rise to the occasion because he did this yesterday. At the Juan Metropolitan Against Political Madrid in the eighty. Six minute in what had been a scoreless draw. AC CVs macy Jonah He yelled that for several more sexy. it was Barcelona's I went in three tries at Athletico's new who ground this is what he does. Jj Barcelona were not outstanding in this game. Athletico Madrid probably should have won They they hit the woodwork. Barcelona did as well but it seemed like athletic. Oh Madrid were probably on the front foot more of this match but sometimes matches like this. It just comes down to one guy being the difference and when you have messy. The advantage is tipped in your favor. It was his thirty th goal against Athletico Madrid. There's only one team that he's scored more against you. Know One team score more then. His thirty goals against that letter. Co- he's got thirty seven against Bilbao severe severe so far moved back above Real Madrid on goal difference Prince meanwhile severe our third just one point back but they have played one more game Athletico or six right now but only six points off the lead worth mentioned to rail associated added let Bilbao or fourth and fifth tied on twenty six points so there is a jump like there are six teams right now that are close to being a part of some sort sort of title. They're sixteen closer than what I a second is in the premier league so there is something happening in lollygag right now that is a lot of fun parody at the top of the League thing that we are never accustomed saying about this league. Now look it's still relatively early so by the time like we could be sitting here in three months and maybe Barcelona and Real Madrid have separated themselves from the group but all I can go off of what I've seen so far is this and this is right now. A fun tunnel race so Yeah prompster messy like I said I think I think that he has won his six. Ballon d'Or but there's a chance he hasn't so I'll just leave. That open ended. Because I don't know yet while the push guests award might be Heading to the United States after the weekend terrence Boyd did this. I know you can't see basically it's a volume we. We Love Volley far away from from downtown controls it with the insight of his foot and it POPs up he hits it in stride and it was for. Are you have to look up. His team. Don't even know who plays for anymore against Jews Burke buoyed by throw step inside of you. That's Hallier's terrence boyd. which just a brilliant goal incredible in the third division of German football with which is quite a fall for him? Yeah I mean two years ago in the Bundesliga then. He ended up at Toronto Rantel. Doc didn't work and now I mean well he's still capable of doing that amazing. Look it up. Did you tweet it out from our I did. I shall put uh-huh Again Awesome Nice. This was fun Thanks to Andrew Mangan from our blog talking about us. I WanNa tell you JJ. I did watch the Irishman. I'm I'm a little bit annoyed with all these people. Who are whining over? How long it is okay? Three and a half hours is a longtime. It's excellent. It's like going to Italian restaurant and ooh that's it's a bit too much pasta. What are you expecting to Scorsese Film? And by the way it's on Netflix. After two weeks of being in the feeder like stop complaining I send a gift I saw twice Jason The theater. Did you really on the third time at home on Netflix. Wow so you you like. It's like next level but I I read the book as well as okay. Yeah like after after seeing or you read this book alongside forehand. So you've known for years. What happened to Jimmy Hoffa while the rest of us? We're all in the dark. Well how dare you keep such a secret from us. There are people disputing shy frank. SHEERAN's earings version of events. But but the best not the best bid of the book the most chilling power to the book. He did not put it in the film. I don't WanNa ruin the book or the film so I can't say anything. Tell me we're we're GONNA end this right now. Because I I WANNA know Hollywood Warn Report all Warren Commission all that means Kennedy Oh my God oh we gotta go because I need to hear more. Hey this this was fun nancy you I say take care listening Tocado offsides soccer podcast sir.

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 83: Mourinho's Job Safe? (10-10-2018)

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 83: Mourinho's Job Safe? (10-10-2018)

"Hey, DC right now at vision works all prescription. I wear every frame. Every brand is fifty percent off. Yup. A nifty fifty percent. Thanks to our friends and family event. What's even better? It applies to both glasses and sunglasses. That's right. At the vision works friends and family event. You can save fifty percent on all prescription eyewear. Why? Because we like you a lot vision works. We're here to help you some restrictions apply see store for details. Want to know the latest and soccer, then listen to the Golden State media concept. Soccer podcast from m l. s. the world, the Premier Li, we've got you covered the latest update, the hottest matches news on the league's top players. It's the Golden State media concept, soccer podcast. Listen. And welcome to the GSM see soccer podcast. Of course, the GMC podcast network Rican find other shows baseball, football sports, fantasy football amongst other things. I'm here of course, Mark Souza. I'm here with my co host, Jeff Melania things are joining me Jeff. Good to be here. Think you said for me to introduce you as the beautiful Jeff. I said, no saying, you have no proof whatsoever about that. Yes. So we'll go ahead with that with the beautiful Jeff. Male enough. Thank you again for being shots. I'd like to talk today going to recap the English Premier League from this last week and take a look at some of the other notable teams in Europe. As we look at Madrid, Barcelona Juventus by Munich, see how those teams performed in there. See that three times fast, Madrid, Barcelona, Ventas Bermuda. We'll see how this teams performed. We're also going to figure out today Jeffs favorite English Premier League team. We're going to figure out the team that he will support from here on out. I'll keep to my word. I will support this team every time. We're on this podcast way. I can't do that because of that's that's that's I can have personal thoughts about it. I had to put my unbiased opinion shirt, but we'll figure out the team that's best suited for you whenever you're ready to make that jump to the English Premier League. Okay. Okay. I have a series of questions and I have this insanely intricate algorithm in my head that is going in your head or you found it online. Oh, it's in my head. I got some good ideas though. I. I just I can get this. So and then we'll later on. We'll talk about the women's Gold Cup right now with the focus on the US women's national team as they participate in the Gold Cup that's currently happening. And of course, the women's World Cup is next summer, Jeff. I don't know if you if you know, but. Does I help America wins it? They're always favorite, hey, you talk about Paul PA from Manchester United and his comments about losing a little bit of focus with his club team, Manchester United as of course it relates to the rift between him and manager. Josie, Marino we will definitely talk about Josie marina today. A big focus. We talked about him last week and how his match against Newcastle was a must win. We'll also talk about the upcoming international friendlies or some of them, I guess, are not friendly's anymore. We talk about the UEFA ever friendly some of some of the time not most of the time, but they call them friendly's because they're, they're not in competition. They're just playing games to get some experience. And yeah, we'll talk about that and other news and notes later on. So. First and foremost, we will start in England where we saw the top two teams in England right now playing against each other. This last Saturday, and that is of course, Liverpool as they hosted Manchester City. Last year, these teams, they had some big games against each other, not only in the English Premier League, but they had some big games Champions League, which ultimately, Liverpool got the upper hand before they made all the way to the Champions League final. So it was a star studded game coming in with both teams proving to be good at the start of this season. Once again, Manchester City. You know, they did lose in the Champions League till ever, but they had that incredible English Premier League win, or they won the league. It wasn't close. They ran away with it. So there looking do the same though. Teams come in sitting on nineteen points and it was a take game from from the opening minutes. I think a lot of fans, we're probably disappointed in what happened considering zero zero game. With two star studded teams like this. We're talking about the two highest scoring teams in the English Premier League coming in. It was maybe a letdown to see zero zero game, but I understood why both teams played very strong, especially in the midfield. It was contentious game throughout not a lot of clearcut chances. I'm not sure if one team can really say that they should have won. It was real tight. Fifty fifty possession seven shots to six. I mean, just wasn't a what to separate these teams, but I think we will see a better game the next time that they play. I think we'll see a little bit more attacking. Jeff, what do you make of this game? You see, you bring. There's two teams here. That can score goals, some great, offensive talent on the field of courses. Good defending on both sides, but is that a little disappointing zero zero game in such a the game that's built as the game of the week game that ends nil nil. That is disappointing like regardless of what team is playing like you're going to see, you know, like we need the crowd react. It's like the huge reactions to goals, and that's great. And all when there's no goals you pay just to see guys running back and forth football, he'll know it's kind of disappointing, you guy you wanna. You wanna see action. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't a question real quick, but go ahead. I understand like ties in stuff that happens a lot and talk about what if it was ios, yo can't just make until like shootout. So at least they see some goals like some action. I mean, I guess you could, but the one, there's a draw. Both teams get a point. They move on and play another day. I mean shootouts I think if you start rewarding teams for wins and shootouts like other than like a knockout game, like in a World Cup. Or something then gets out of hand. I think I think then you see teams playing for ties more. I see what you're saying this smaller. Okay. And then just do do do a whole nother thirty minutes or forty five minute period. Yeah, that I understand that. But then you're asking players have already ran like seven miles to run like another three to four miles, and then they gotta play a game like three or four days. So that's really grueling, but I'm just trying to think of it on the has a fan fan's perspective. Yeah. I mean, there's been obviously there's been things discussed or mentioned to make the maybe the result more exciting where like maybe there's more more of a resolution at the end of the game, probably the the league was probably all excited about this matchup thinking this possible high scoring affair or leashes one goal. It ends nothing. Nothing. Everyone's disappointed. Like, I don't think it's not just the fans about teams, but I think the fans of soccer general the front office men and just the coaches and players in general. Yeah, but what that being said, everybody plays everybody twice. So we'll see the play again. Yeah, they'll play again. Exactly. So the next time they'll play in the nothing. Nothing again and it's possible. It's it's absolutely possible, but I would bet large against that happening. So. They both teams, they get a draw. They get a point, they maintain their standing except for Liverpool slightly drops in the standings based on goal differential because Chelsea defeated Southampton three nil another game where eating hazard just shows up. I mean, he scores again, he's on fire, and now he is playing as well as anybody in England, and it was a relatively easy win for four, Chelsea as they go into the break with the lead, and then they add onto more. So they actually fit right now on a second place. And we move onto arsenal arsenal, big win five one. So if you goals Jeff, that game provided all the goals, you needed five for arsenal one for Fulham. I'll take six schools. Thank you. Yeah, yes. So if you I- goals are snows striking on all firing on all cylinders right now as they just continue their strong start as they're now in fourth place, they seem to be progressing well, with the new coach, they have new players, a new formation in new attitude. They started off the season with a tough first couple of games, but they've really turned it on as way. So it's nice to see them kind of regain their form as a top club in England. Trying to improve on their finish last year of six place. So they're trying to get back into the top four like they've been before and now they currently sit at for their crosstown rival Tottenham. They also sit eighteen points. They did win this weekend as the newly promoted side Cardiff City, not the greatest game, to be honest with the. I think a lot of people expected taught him to win by a bigger margin than one nil against a team in card. If that's not very good hasn't won and they give up a lot of goals. Tonneins been doing some injuries, so they had some players rotating in. They had some injury concerns coming in. But regardless Harry Caine was only able to get a few shots on goal. He did not score, which is surprising, however, ton of wins. They moved to fit the big a big score in this in this weekend. Surprising scores born with actually beating Wofford four. Nil. They get a goal in the fourteenth minute, and then Wofford gets a red card and is a goal early. So they played about sixty minutes that game a man down the end of losing four nil. So it was a big win for born with as they improve on their incredible start to the season that seeing them when five games only two and draw one. I don't think oughta people expect them to be in the top six or even in the top ten at the end of the season. But as of right now, they're in six, so great for them. We see wolves another newly promoted side, a new promoted side and another win for about soccer about leagues like that. Like teams are lower leagues. If they do really well, they get promoted to the big times like literally is the beauty of the game that is like the the best thing about, sorry, I wish they did it more into American swertz just like such as a like NFL like some Meyer like you've. Make a minor league type of thing. And if they win, they get promoted and the worst team, the NFL gets drop like nobody tanks and soccer? Yeah, aunt. Perfectly NFL. So no team tanks. NBA no-one be taking like they'll move into the into the imagine if you imagine if the NBA or another sport vol- disease, the NBA had teams. If you got in the number league, if you got in the bottom three, you went to the g. league or whatever. It's called now and your franchise lost like half it's worth. Okay. Maybe maybe not lose. It's worth because that's a little mess. But I mean, you will because you're going to a different TV contract different, right? But overseeing to go to the game, I would say the last place team in champion switch, just one. So everyone goes for that top spot. Yeah, it's it's nice. So in England, the three bottom teams out of twenty go down on the three top teams from second division go up. Do you know the NFL also and make a minor league NFL group and try to see what you'd be? There's probably not probably doing basketball so the they totally could. So the thing is. They could do in other sports, but they just won't do it. Regardless though. Last year we saw for only the second time in history of England were all three new teams. All three promoted teams did not. They all stayed up not one got relegated because a lot of times one of the one or two promoted teams will go right back down because they're just not getting enough right. Like they don't have. They don't have the money, they don't have the talent there. Good enough to be the best and second division, but not getting enough to survive in the first division. I don't think we're gonna see that this year because I think Cardiff City, I think they're destined to go back down. But we will see about that. We're gonna talk about Manchester United. Actually. In the third segment, they did win, but it's how they won and their outlook going forward, especially with their manager shows Marino there. Star player. Paul pug it's an interesting dynamic going on, but I wanted to get back to wolves. They beat Crystal Palace one hill. Again, they win there right now in seventh place a newly promoted team. They came in and they've been white cell for wins. They only have one loss and three draws. Other than that, I think that was the most. The most notable scores of the weekend right now we see Huddersfield town, Newcastle, United and Cardiff City. Those are your bottom three teams in the English Premier League. They've gone all three of those teams Jeff have gone eight games without winning a game games. Yeah, Huddersfield has zero wins. Three draws five losses there at three points. Newcastle's two draws and six. Six losses are two points Cardiff to draw six houses. Two points. Those that was those three right there or my picks where my picks to get relegated and it's looking that way as neither of the three teams have a win, but we're gonna take a quick break. We come back, we're going to figure out Jeff's favorite team. Then in the third segment, we're actually going to talk about Manchester United and Josie, Marino and the drama there also talked about the women's Gold Cup a little bit when we could win. We do the story of me funny my team. Good. So you were saying so many different things. 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In segment one, we talked to Bill the English Premier League in how the big matchups Shaked out this last weekend. In this segment, we will be finding out our buddy Jeff Mellon off here. We're gonna find out his favorite English Premier League team, the team that suits him the most. He might not realize it. He might not know that he's a fan of this team, but he will know today. Are you excited. I sure went on. Okay. Are you ready? I'm always reading. Manasa wishes. Hold on. I'm gonna ask you a series of questions I needed to be completely honest with me, and more importantly, Jeff, be honest with yourself, just be honest with yourself. Can you do that for me. Okay, I can do that. All right. Don't worry about the questions. They might not seem important. Just answer them as honestly as possible. So I'll start give me your favorite color. Blue. Blue. Do you have a preference of the shade. More would light darkish. No, I that's. What did I do? I prefer darker blue. Okay. Is there a color that you just can't stand like something that you would not wear? No. Okay. Sometimes people have like like, oh, I hate this go, but you're not one of those guys. You're pretty open, but you just all colors. You prefer Balu. None of your favorite sports teams are blue though. This sharks there -til. Okay. So yeah, now I've heard, okay, so let's stay on that topic though. Because sometimes in England, some teams have different shades of blue. So like teal or like light blue, for example, how what's your outlook there? You prefer? Darker. Blue. Darker blue? Okay. But you don't dislike whether blue. No. Wearing Lehner blue develop North Carolina blue eye powder. Little. Okay. Okay. Do you care about how your phantom will be perceived by others? Do you care about somebody calling you front runner? Do you care about somebody calling you a bandwagon, or do you get offended closing Ben Wagoner because I'm not. So what am I never now supported my team? So let me give you a little bit site if you if we determine at the end of this that you're a fan of one of the big clubs, like one of the big powerhouses in England will bother you if people are like, oh, you just like them because x, y, and z. I'm not gonna like brag how much fan in like shuffling. Yeah, we did. We did. I'll just like them as a team. So does does fan authenticity doesn't matter to you? Absolute. Okay. But it doesn't matter if somebody's like, oh, you dislike them because they're popular, right? If someone says that to me, they should. They don't know me because my closest for everyone in my high school in college, everyone like everyone that actually knew who I was knows that I'm not a bandwagon. So you're comfortable with being called being. Because you know that you not come from, we call around. Not, but I'm saying, okay, so this we need to figure this out. So somebody calls you a ban Wagner front runner that will bother you. I will tell them how right that's not true, but will stop you from Weiqing a team that quote unquote has bandwagon fans. No. Okay. Because those people are bandwagoning off us. Do you need to support a winning team. No, I do not. Does it. Okay. So how you know the teams I like so. So recent success isn't doesn't matter to you. That doesn't make me a fan of those teams. Now I've been a fan a childhood thing. It's a family thing. I feel like a bond over these teams, whether the do good or bad, we obviously prefer them doing good and when they're when they're taking a new team because we're, this is something different teams you picked you chose or grew up into banal. You're an adult. So like now you're going to accepting a new challenge of finding new club doesn't matter to you if they have recent success. Okay, because when they win is genuinely awesome feeling because you were there through the thick and thin. Are you interested, or would it bother you to pick a team that has a decent chance of relegation. What do you mean. Like some people may not want to choose a team that might not be in the first division next year. Right? Like they might want also motion. Yes. Yes, that won't affect me. No. Okay. Because I mean, obviously it's like harder to watch their games like follow them or whatever, but you gotta have the lakes. Oh, they'll be back. Does it would you does it matter to you if the team participates in European competitions like the Champions League Europa league, where there I would prefer them to, but they don't have to if the team used who's me that as the best is like they, they're bad, the really bad. Well, then I love to support them. Does the financial success of team matter to you as in agencies and transfers, and yet they come clout. They have ill, be frustrated. They don't spend their money, but. I mean, whoever you have me picked as I, I'm just going to accept the fact that they're my team now, does it matter if a club has or has had American players on the team? Our that means nothing to me. Okay. Some people actually do in the United States a lot of friends who they support a club like Tottenham or Fulham, for example, because those are clubs have had Americans like Clinton Dempsey and other players kind of their ranks, make sense. But like teams in other sports, they can have nothing but like Russians and I'll be okay with. So we talked about recent success. We talked about like, that's it. You know what I meant, right. I don't even know. He said I like Evian phone with teams in America right now. We're just all Russians are all at different from a different country from America. I wouldn't mind that at all. Yeah, right. It's club about the co, so. We talked about recent success is not really a big factor for you and being like a friend, I would prefer it, but it doesn't have to be being a fan of a front runner. Doesn't bother you at all either. But how important is team history. Oh, pretty important. So can you support a clever? Would you be okay with a club that didn't have any titles in the first division or maybe like they've had success, but it's been like fifty years since they've won a title, but like now they're saying no one of my favorite teams has that drought. So yes, who's that? I can't say because of it's a, it's I can't see team is because biased opinions future podcasts. Yeah, but it's okay. That's fine. For you. Okay. Yeah, I'm with you there. So would you. Exactly what this unnamed team that has a terrible history and a terrible current situation that you like. Because. The Browns, which is not the case, but yeah, but none. No, this is good. This is good. I have a question for me. Would you prefer to stay with the team that if you're going to support somebody New England to way to team like that to give yourself to just take away that you would heartbeat, but if I have the sick with the team, I'm going to stick with until the end. Do you need to support a team in a major city. We have to city. Yeah. No, it doesn't have to be major. So you don't need to support a team in London or Liverpool, or l. we quotas support team Lendu, but it can be like the littlest country or city or country known to mankind. Gotcha. So you like the color blue. You would prefer to root for a team that is a decent team like a successful team. You prefer to have a team that is willing to spend some money and how some money. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. Okay. I think I found your team. I don't know. You know what? I think I did. I tell me, I think your team is Chelsea, Chelsea. I think your team is Chelsea Kershaw girl named Chelsea, holy. The world works in mysterious ways hail you Chelsea's out there. Do you feel about how do you feel about. Being Chelsea fan now. Well, this is your color blue right here. I'm looking to them of my own phone, their London London-based team. So if you ever travelled England, if you ever go to like go to Chelsea game. Yeah. Do they have a history of championships? They do. They've been nineteen five. I already love it as it is. They've won recently. They won three years ago. They've one fifth of twenty was. I mean. Team of twenty. I don't know what that means. They're in second place right now. Okay. But they were think in for their Premier League. Okay. There nine Champions League, but they are in the way the league which is, I think it can be eligible Champions League. Yeah, and they've been there before they've won it before James one before. Yeah, they have agree history. Okay. Why is this my favorite team? This is your favorite team because a, they're a solid team that has money to spend. So they get players that are notable. They have good recent success, but they've also had some failures, but that's not they've had their ups and downs in their team history to where they've gone through periods where they haven't been so good the nineties, the nineties, we're not so kind to Chelsea, but the eighties were always their fan base, so they have a very old stadium. It's a nice stadium, though. It's a. One chance I've found the champions. I've, they've won champions -ly to you if you way way Cup, winners, one UEFA euro a Cup and SuperCup. Yeah, SuperCup sounds cool. Is that against the SuperCup is when you win the league and in the Champions League facing? Yes, even though it's like a one one, b competition. They face each other cool thing. I wish they did that other leagues. Yeah. So I think Chelsea's your team. Have you seen what their shirt looks like? They're ranked as seventh most valuable football club in the world with one point, five, four billion pounds or two billion dollars in their own. Buy a bra jerseys, their own all blue, yellow, and blue. That combination. They're owned by the owns, the New Jersey Nets, Roman Abramovich that that Russian dude. Yeah, he's trying to sell the team right now, but he's taking that team made the net horrible. He did, but he's also. He's super six. He's the one that the team and then they started having success again because he had a bunch of money that he injected into the club. So they're the blues. They were pretty much blew every single game. Yeah, they have their yellow jerseys here, but. They're, they're big club. They're one of the big six in England, so cool the Royal blue that it's a very notable shirt that you probably see more of now that you know that that's Chelsea shirt, they got that cool crest. Billy king who I'm thinking of. He hired Billy king who's probably the worst gentleman, Jim basketball. So Jeff, we found your club the chill, see football club. They play at Stamford Bridge in London. It's an old stadium. They're trying to build a new one. They're currently owned by Roman Abramovich who has unlimited amounts of money, and that's what really helps them kind of a chief greatness. Again. But yeah, that's your team shall see. Okay. Okay. The only other team that I would consider that I was considering maybe taught them, but talk them Hotspurs. I liked their commercial with that one guy. What's his name? You know what I'm talking about right? No. The tunnel Hotspurs commercial. That was in Americo. I'll look it up. Hold on. Anyways, I'll find they're also in England or a London-based club. I didn't know. How you feel about their kind of blue though? American coach in London and NBC commercial? Yeah, yeah, Jason sedate? Yes. So funny. Yeah. Leicester City was also a club that was that I considered for you because they have the awesome uniform. They just want they were. They were the team that had the five thousand to one odds to win the English Premier League a few years back and they did. They had what they had. They were five thousand to one to win the league a couple years ago, and they did. They were to one and they wanted they were promoted team. Yeah, that's awesome. But I don't know because I think that they might have enjoyed their most success ever have and I don't wanna put you as a fan of their team win there behind so Jif go, Chelsea till the new Chelsea fan in Eden hazard is on fire. Now he is best player. Eden hazard Belgian. He's hazard is my is my sent pie, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Cool. So we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back now that we figured out team, we're gonna talk about. Josie, Marino and Manchester United is any Chelsea conversation? And then if you segments we talked, I talked about them a little bit in the first segment about how well they played this last weekend, but we will definitely talk about them and future segments involved in my new team. Apparently. Yeah. Yeah, Chelsea. All right. So when we come back again, Josie, marina Manchester United, we'll talk about Paul pod will also look at the US international friendlies that are coming. We'll talk about Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus Bermuda. Right after this. All right. We'll see you then. Keeping a beach not close enough. So that space between you. The way all Dan since way into the muse girl body and how you move and every time you cross my girl. Alexa play the country heat playlist. Okay. With Amazon music of voices. All you need get tens of millions of songs, download the Amazon music app today. Hey, sports fans football season's here and it's time to get in on the action with my bookie. 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Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close, and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching the Golden State media concepts. Podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast. Hovers from news, sports, music, fashion, looking entertainment, fantasy football, and so much more. So stop lurking around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts. Podcast network guaranteed filled that podcast. Whatever it may be visit WWW dot m. c. podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download us on cloud and Google play. And welcome back to the GSM see soccer podcast. Of course, your host Mark Souza. I'm here with Jeff Mellon off. We just figured out he's the newest Chelsea football club supporters. Congratulations. Jeff. Sounds good to me. Did you order your jersey during break? No, because they're like three hundred dollars. I don't know. No, they're cheaper than that one hundred bucks. I don't have a hundred dollars to spend on Chelsea jersey will when you do you go out and get yourself one. They have them all over the place. That's another benefit being Chelsea fan. You can get their shirts like pretty much any soccer shop or sporting goods place, but we just talked about that. We talked about earlier segment one. I want to talk a bell, Manchester United. Let's talk about Josie. Marino the weekend here they played against Newcastle. That game was absolutely insane. It's just another day in the saga of Manchester United where you have these conversations that are being had, we taught. We heard last week that marina was fired, no matter what he would do against Newcastle, no matter how the team would perform against Newcastle United at Old Trafford stadium. It was leaked by the media. We've seen this now with the club of Manchester United. We've seen the club kind of get away from their ways since Alex Ferguson retired, a few years back, they've gone through a couple coaches is been hard for them to get back to the success that they were used to for about twenty years there, Sir. Alex Ferguson interesting times Manchester as Manchester City has taken over the city in terms of the best club in town. Over the last few years, of course, their success in the English Premier League, of course, their success in buying players rivaling Manchester, United after being the little brother for quite some time. We'll see how it kind of shakes out. Okay, cool. Sounds that just sounds like Manchester City still the powerhouse in the Premier League? Yeah, yes. Right now the team to beat the defending champions. They have a good thing going. They have players playing very well very fluid type of team. So with that being said. Manchester United entered last week with a lot of turmoil. The conversations Marino is gonna be out. We talked about this last week. I don't know if you remember Jeff, but I said that they needed to win no matter what against Newcastle. If they loss against Newcastle, he could be gone. And then I found out a couple of days after podcast. But before their game against Newcastle, that sounded like he was already Dead Man Walking. He was already going to be out no matter what he was on the hot seat, the hottest petites yes, sir. So they play that game. The other day, I miss at the table for you in a must-win gaming. It's team that has not won. They give up goal in the seventh minute of the game. They're down one zero at home. The crowd is stunned in the tenth minute of that game. A second goal they're down to nothing to team that doesn't score many goals and certainly does not win, especially road games. At that point. I'm watching the game and I'm like, oh, man. He might have time. They might just roll out ever have before. Probably, but I can't recall it. It just gets fired at halftime. Like who co? The interim coach is like the system coach. Yes, yeah. I don't recall that happening, but I'm sure it has the craziest things literally have soccer, especially in that so many different cultures and worldwide support. Like there's there's never a news article that I'm surprised by nowadays, but Newcastle takes two zero lead to nil lead Manchester United in the second half Marino make some changes brings new players on the field. They score a goal in the seventy seventy six and ninetieth minute to not only but win the game against Newcastle, United sending Old Trafford in their fans into your four year. The van big were, yeah, you for you. The fans are going ballistic. We see Marino on the sideline showing some emotion, Alexis Sanchez, a guy who's been in the doghouse for few weeks. Actually, the whole start of the season. He scores the winning goal, incredible comeback, albeit against a team that they should. But regardless two zero against anybody's, come back on in the sport when there's two professional teams point. So they get the win after the game. Josie Marino keeps up his. He's known for being very a conversation on the media sometimes a little bit. A little a little stubborn and tough to deal with, but he's very open most of the time. He kind of put the onus on front office. He let them know, hey, if you, we have the best fans in the world in the player. They're on the team. They're on is going to say that. But okay, some radio says the coach says, we have the best fans in the world, and they deserve more than what the front office is giving them in terms of rumors and speculation. So he kinda throws it back in the face of his boss, like basically challenging them to fire him. It's another play by Marino. It's like baiting them like, come on, do it do it. I dare you, but they just want. So it made perfect sense. Like, tiny, what are they gonna? Do they gonna fire him after their most exciting win of the season. Now the fans seem to be backing the coach and not backing the ownership group. So it will be interesting to see what happens. There is an international break now, so Manchester United doesn't play. For a while. They don't play until the twentieth who they play against their next game, Jeff. Might be interesting. They put hill sees. Stamford Bridge. That's your. That's your favorite teams stadium by the way, Stamford Bridge. That sounds like a bridge though. So yes, Manchester United. They will. Stadium bridge silly. Yeah, so they they, they'll try and capitalize on their last win. Star player from inches United Popa. He he came out recently and said that he has been struggling to focus following their his country's World Cup win as of course he led France to a World Cup win. He's insisted that he can still lead the club at Manchester United, but he has had a falling allergies Marino. So it will be interesting to see how that relationship is patched up, Jeff. Do you think that. When you play in a World Cup. Okay. So so park by goes through a whole season with Manchester United you falling? Yes, I'm following the goes through a whole season Manchester United. Then immediately starts playing for France and the World Cup. They win the World Cup. He says that since the World Cup, he's like a lack of focus. Do you think that it's tough to play that much not have arrest and then beyond the, they won the World Cup. So he's enjoying the highest of. Wait. Yes. Following still? Yeah. Do you think that a World Cup years played into him, kind of having a tough start to the season, a bad luck charm almost? No. No, no. Just like fatigue. Mental hangover? Yeah. Yeah. Like they won the world coast. Yeah. He said it's hard to concentrate to start again to hit hard because we just touch the stars. That's what he said, which so cheesy? Well, yeah. I mean, sorry, but that's that's awesome. Cheesy. At the same time. It makes sense though. So he has. He has revealed that he plans on getting back to form and helping Manchester United spy, his differences team Chelsea little coming up. Yeah. They do that is a big game. That's actually probably the game of the week h. e. l. ESE and here's another. Here's another factional Goria what's up. Josie, marina the manager of Manchester United. This general manager of the of Chelsea called it and had their most success under himself. Of course, he did. That's why he went to the Yankees of the talker. Well, they're both kind of like the Yankees. They're like the Red Sox actually, but it's Chelsea. The rest of the Anki. Well, they're not. They're not like each team is not each other's biggest rival, but their rivals in because they're two of the six big who'd you say, chill. See, image has mentioned two cities. The inky is we always say that who is Chelsea when it comes to sports in America. People in America peel never watched soccer just list podcast. Just compare them to somebody. Man, that's. Does a very good question. This next week's podcast. I'll have an answer for you next segment that Nick say, okay, yeah, so we can break. No, not yet. We're coast though. Yeah, so the US women, they actually are participating in the Gold Cup right now which is which is the the turnament held in in North America. And they actually will be. They won their first game six, nothing. And then they won five, nothing. We talked about the World Cup coming next year for the women. As the US treasury Erica to win a World Cup look to unless you're right last time though to yes, the look to defend their title. But as we look at the Gold Cup here in the US their group. It's USA Panama Mexico. Turn it into big, oh, in the US as just flat out cruising in this thing. Like I mentioned, they won five, nothing against Panama. They won six, nothing against Mexico, and now they played Trinidad and Tobago who has to offer so they should advance and reach the semi-finals. In fact, I think they've already cliched, but it looks like they will play their Costa Rica or Jamaica in their next match. And then Canada will wait them in the final. It should be US and Canada. Final. We've seen some big scores in this tournament. The conch Kathleen is Gold Cup is just a little bit of a letdown from the men's the men's, yes, Mexico and the United States dominate, but Costa Rica's good team. There's this more competition the men's. I mean, we have Cuba playing in the women's competition. They've given up twenty goals they've they've played two games Cuba way, way way. Hewas giving up twenty goals. They games they've lost eight, nothing in twelve. Nothing in that seems absurd. So they've scored zero goals in their opponents scored twenty goals. Is there any competition for the women's World Cup who they play? Well, there is competition the World Cup. This tournament is a Gold Cup, so the US is only playing teams in North America, so Canada's really good. Canada's really, their competition is is based in Europe though, would you say those? I would say the best teams in the women's game right now are Germany, US, Canada, probably Australia. England's pretty good too. There's some other good teams, but in North America, not so much. But yes, so the US will play their last group stage game and then head into. They actually played a day for thirty, but they will head into the semi-final. Which will actually be this Sunday in the final, if they win will be next Wednesday night. So something look for. So we'll wrap up the segment. Again, we just discussed me and just United Josie marina Paul park in the women's Goco. In the last segment, we will talk about Real Madrid. Barcelona, Juventus barmy chicken on those teams and any news notes that we find interesting right after this. 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This is your alternate stop for everything sports, the Golden State media, concepts or podcast, should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA MMA. It's all in here, Golden State media, concepts, sports, but cast listen. And welcome back to the GMC soccer podcast. Again, Jeff Mellon off with me Mark Souza. We've found Jeff's team. He's now each Elsie United supporter. We just talked to bell Manchester United and Josie. Marino after we United supporter? Yeah, Chelsea. Yeah, Chelsea football club anyways. So. We're looking at the Spanish giants. We're looking at Real Madrid and Barcelona. Jeff, Real Madrid. They have reached a new low for the club. They have not scored a goal in about five hundred minutes now, which is. Which is actually insane when you think about it because they're one of the biggest clubs in the world. They have all types of expensive players. They cannot score goals. This is the longest drought that they've had since nineteen eighty five. Nineteen eighty five. Then eighty-five mardi make play, went back into the future. Or back to the past, the one you could, they have not scored. In four hundred and nine minutes. It's a lot of minutes. Yeah. So. They haven't done this poorly in terms of scoring goals since nineteen eighty five. So it's a, it's pretty crazy as we look and we see Real Madrid. Of course, their biggest move this summer was actually selling Rinaldo a man who is no stranger to scoring goals. Yeah, Rinaldo is probably the most iconic. Player in the world in soccer him and messy hands down. Yeah, he scored hundreds of goals for the team, hundreds, literally hundreds. We can look that up. It's insane in the pudding. It's insane that they lose him. They haven't been able to score. They lost the game in addition to, of course, having another another game this week where they don't score, they actually lose to Alvis, which is a not not a particularly strong Spanish side. I mean, they're doing pretty well this year. We'll see how they do. They should finish in the top half of the table. Definitely sitting lows by the day for for Real Madrid. So their rival, of course, Barcelona. Burson also didn't fare so well, this week as they drew against Valencia. Despite Lino messy goal, they can only muster draw against Valencia. And those in the stadium Stoller, which is a very tough place to play. So I wanna goes on the road against a tough team and they get a draw. Not the worst result ever not not as bad as Real Madrid. Definitely. Hey, Jeff, I think you were you were looking up the Juventus game from this last week and how did they do to to. Talk, they want to nothing. Yeah. So they actually. Win again, as you know, juventas team that their success is going to be determined by how will they do in, although was one of them that scored he's scored thirty seven th minute. Yeah, and their success is going to be determined on how they do in the Champions League. They've won. They tell you the league now, seven years in a row. Know that Real Madrid or excuse me, Juventus Juventus seven years. The Italian Syria, seven years straight. So installing. I see. I see them continuing this. This run. They've been impressive. They already heavy six point lead in the league which has already massive amount this early in the season. So they continue to move on Rinaldo despite his off the field. Antics allegations, we should say, okay. He has continued to maintain his focus. He gets on the scoresheet argue said he had a nice lifted shot into the back. How about we talk a Bill, another European, giant Byron, Munich, let me know how they're doing. They lost three games to nil three games, three scores, two, nil three goals to nil. Dave, how tough tough start to the season. There in six place right now. They have four wins to us in a tie. I don't remember them ever being this loan the table even after a couple games they're struggling. There is some talk that they may go ahead and fire their coach, a popular name, of course, Zindedine Sadan. We talked about him last week how he's a popular name names. Awesome to dean. Yes. So legendary agent, legendary players slash coach Zindedine Sadan who led Real Madrid to the insane amount of success in such a short period of time. He's now being linked with fire Munich, imen- Chester, United because those are the two high-profile jobs that are currently out there were there. There's talk about the coaches being on the hot seat Marino for sure buyer Munich will see how it goes, but there is speculation. I don't know. I think. Communiqu is a club that's patient Manchester United, not so much. So I would say if I was a bidding man, which I am Byron Munich is probably on the outside. Serious problem. Yeah, you're gambling. Addiction sounds like addiction. You said you liked to gamble and having you. Yeah, I, I went there all of a sudden you're an addict. You know. There's, I think there's a hotline for that, but. W w we never mind. Yeah, so Birmingham team to watch for in the coming weeks to see if they can actually get back on track here in the coming weeks in the German league. Of course, there's good teams in that. We do workman, especially Rb Leipzig often Heim. Those are some teams that are good that can provide some competition. Maybe we will see a different winner in the German league this year in the boondocks Lita, not sure this could be the year. It could happen, but we're still really young into the season. So the US national team as you know, they did not participate in this year's World Cup. They have two games this week coming up. So the first of which is tomorrow actually they'll be playing Columbia. They'll be playing at Raymond James stadium in Tampa Bay against the Colombian side that. Did fairly well in the World Cup. And you know they pose players like HAMAs Rodriguez fell cow Quadra Joe, for example. Do you think this is a good test for a young United States team. Definitely against one of the better teams in South America. It's definitely a test. Do I. It's not going to be easy. That's sure. So the US has been going with a youthful approach in the last year or so. Considering they didn't make the World Cup, they're trying to shake things up, get some new blood and the team. Do you think that's the right outlook for them? You know, fresh blood is always good unpredictability. When you look at the other team, I can see definitely vantage going into it when you don't know the starting lineup, the other team. Yeah, in peon that I mean, it's just important that the US gets the young players involved because here for the next three years, it's all about getting ready for the next World Cup. Obviously, they need to qualify this time, but these young guys there, there's some good kids in this US system that are playing overseas that need experience with the national team. But the next couple years are crucial for their development and for the progress of the country. When it comes to international men's soccer, we already know how good the women are well documented how they are the most successful country in the world. In the women's game, the men haven't caught up, but you know, this is a good start. I think I think ultimately, and I've said this before, I think missing the World Cup might have been the best thing that could ever happen for the US national team because they seem to have gotten stuck. They progressed so well in the nineties and early two, thousands, and then. Over the course of the last decade or so, they didn't really make a ton of progress, but the talent is here in this country. The athletes are here. It's all about exposing these players to the best competition in the world, getting them on the best clubs in the world. And seeing how that can affect their futures. Yeah, definitely. I think sometimes there's there's goodness to happen in failure like you learn from mistakes, self like that. And I think that's what the national team needed to do is really accept their mistakes and start basically from scratch. Yeah. And this will be a conversation that I think menu we'll talk about in future if you trips odes here, but there's been definite times especially in this sport where countries kind of get embarrassed by either like a better result in like a big competition or they don't qualify for tournament and actually ends up making them stronger down the road. Like they take it as a challenge and they're actually more successful in the long run for it. So I see that exact same thing happening here. A lot of it is just due to resources were huge country. We have great athletes. We have kids that are exposed to playing different sports and things like that, which can be a detriment when it comes to finding the best soccer players. But at the same time, kids here are able to get noticed maybe in different avenues where they're not allotted that same fortune and other places. So we'll see how it goes. US also plays Peru, so they will be playing Peru on the sixteenth for this international break. Again, there's no club soccer in Europe this week as we hit the international break, we'll be back next Wednesday, though, Jeff, yovany last thoughts go Chelsea, Chelsea football club over here. Newest supporter Jeff says go Chelsea. So we will see you next time. Everybody have a good day. Listening to the Golden State media concepts, soccer podcast, part of the good state media concepts, podcast network. You could find this show and others like it at WWW dot GMC stem podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes, stitches sound clock Google play, just type it MC to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music from sports entertainment, and even three rd Hughes. 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Caught Offside: Man City-Liverpool and everything else

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Caught Offside: Man City-Liverpool and everything else

"Caught offside with Andrew gummy and JJ Davani. Paul side from the Upper West side of Manhattan, Andrew Golding and J J. What's up brother spent a long day? Oh boy. Serious tone. Nah, not really just a bit flat after that. Okay. I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna be alright you can be able to get through this. Thank thought at the for menial equalizer. I felt good and felt good about where liberal Liverpool rat. But it was also where that city were playing with an intensity in a. I don't know the city paid very well unsorted. I don't think ever put very badly. And that's where you're like. No. It seemed like it was a genuinely good game like a fun game. There was a lot of action to like it was played at a pretty high level. I would say, and like you said you got that from, you know, equalizer, but ultimately it all led to this stunning. Spike. Brilliant. Wasn't it? One was your final Manchester City jumped back into second place Liverpool still four points out ahead. And I think that's kind of what you I would say this to all Liverpool fans that you do have to remind yourself. I know that that's a gut wrenching loss because of the a the way that it went down. And we'll talk about some of the specifics of that. And be I know you disagreed with this when I said to you before the game. But I truly believe that if Liverpool had won today. And maybe even if they had gotten a draw the league, it was over that they had that they could have essentially wrapped up the league in my mind today on January third. Yeah. And they have not right now, they have not, and they have allowed Manchester City some life, and you know, so I can understand obviously, why a Liverpool fan would be, you know, pretty crushed at kind of missing out on that opportunity. But. You have to remind yourself is. Manchester City included there's not a club in that league. That would not trade places with Liverpool right now. No obstinately. And and that's the way to look at it. I guess it's just you're so wrapped up in the. As a fine you start. I couldn't look beyond people were telling me, oh, we've got this good rolling games. After city. We've got you know, where were we should pick a points, etc. Etc. And I'm like, yeah. But we've just lost the city. You know, I was so focused on this game. I mean from halftime against because because the game was was such a a wash your already thinking ahead and. Yeah. It's just it just feels so flat now, and like I said in the context of the game. It was a little bit over him back. I actually I actually thought Liverpool. They weathered the early storm of city, particularly well, say storm sit he didn't create a tone early on. Although I thought they started the brighter the two teams and then Liverpool high by chance that incredible manage where it hits the poorest comes back. Johnstone's rattles. It off Edwardson on it. Somehow doesn't cross the line. And then I think city dominated probably the last ten to twelve minutes of the half and score. And then you're worried because city commode the traps hot in the in the second half. And then you get a brilliant acquaint brilliant equaliser on you're like, oh here we go. This is what we've been seen from Liverpool, and it just never really kicked on as good. As Saez goal was. I couldn't believe the acres. He found himself in. I'm like is anyone getting across inaugurum is an excellent Ron to kinda pull Trent Alexander Arnold away. I'm looking at Manny Manny doesn't get back on his nowhere near getting back to covert. And I'm just. Yeah. Especially to we talk all the time about American football. People always say a game of inches game. Ventures at such a cliche. Has that ever applied more to anything than this Liverpool? Manchester City match today when you talk about I mean inches. That's not even doing Justice centimeters millimeters away from scoring that goal. Like, you talked about the Johnstone's Edison. I think it was in. I Liverpool would've had deservedly had the lead. And I think that it would be interesting to see ho ho city would've reacted now. Haunted city react to the equalizing goal excellently. And I think the death principles of we talked about before it, no really did come to the fore. I you can talk about the tactical. Approach of city, which I thought was very good. They kept the two fullbacks of Liverpool occupied on Starling against Robertson, really gave Robertson something to do going. The other way he wasn't allowed to marauder forward as much as he would have liked that was really good from pep Guardiola. And I thought you know, there were good innovations by bolt managers in the game. But the real thing was that city. A did not allow Liverpool the intensity day grabbed and sees the intensity straight off the early opening tackle by furniture, new on Robertson was a case in point. He's gone right through. He's a heavy, touch and he's gone right through. And he's left America on Fernan Dina was excellent hundred. He was really great. He reminded me Roy Keane in that game. Not as hyper as he dominated that game. He drove city forward. He won't. He won the the ball back in several occasions. I'm with broke up play. Was excellent and sit he did what I wasn't sure they could do under guava your which was it's not just about pressing or closing players down. But that aggressive turnovers that Liverpool was almost the Mark of Liverpool against them not season. They didn't allow over to do it in this game. And that was crucial. Yeah. By the way, going back to that opening near goal for Liverpool. The one that stones managed to clear off the line. I know this is not the moment you wanna hear this. But I was as I was watching that. And when they showed the actual zoom in that they do of the ball of like just how close it was to not fully going over the line. I was just looking at that and thinking like in in this world of like sporting innovations. Like is there anything that has been more beneficial to a sport than the goal line technology in this sport, nothing because I'm sure that would have been given. I'm sure. Passed. It would have been given like and not just the fact that its accuracy is basically like without question. Like, nobody questions the accuracy of those calls ever. But it the instantaneous nature of it. You know, on very seamless isn't doesn't affect how far I am. But I understand it like it can cause that's my whole point about that. It can it can cause a disturbance in a game, basically until we can get the tech to that level on the money issues with fire off and to me, the the the two sporting innovations, and I think it's the goal line technology and soccer and like television in America, finally, putting the first down line in on television. However, many years ago that was to show you where the like those two things are the things I always think of like how do we live without a world without this? I mean, I was just so like to see how close that was and then talking about game of inches. Let's talk about both the goals that Manchester City scored you get one from Sergio Aguayo where he just blasted through the most imposs-. Of angles right near post impo kinda like between Allison's hand. And the the post the second goal Sunday off the inside of the far post. It was just like goals goals that I would imagine for a Liverpool fan to watch. That is just like oh my God. These goals that they're scoring against us. Yeah. I know what you're saying. I don't think it really was. I think that the object of IRA and a focus was DeJean Lovran on the city goal because don't forget Alison made a brilliant eve prior to that ball flying past him and city were knocking on the door. What happened in boats in IRAs? Firstly Lavin was random the line. He pulled out, and it was a wound V one tank fully Alison made the save. And then the bulls recyc- of the comes out, and it comes back in again and grow Golson front of Lovran. And he doesn't react. Are. He doesn't get across. 'cause Andrew honestly when Lovran is getting that bold there. That's where you don't tackle. But you have to get a block in unlock room was nowhere close to him. I saw him one of the match reports. You know, I know sometimes these rankings are different. But a couple of them. I think I saw they gave him love and three out of ten and it was his it was his misplaced head or on the breakaway to believe for sterling. I guess this would be a moment where I would make fun of him for having called himself the best defender in the world. But you know, what I'm going to be the bigger man today. I'm not gonna mention that. He said that and we're gonna move on. I also think the full box. Fullbacks on the Santa goal. Okay. Maybe maybe not on the Senegal certainly on the goal Liverpool. Got stretched and the last thing you wanted was for DeJean Lovran to be in direct opposition to Sergio Aguayo or anyone really you. You wanted that? Nice tight and compact. It's been above masking Lovran since Gomez is being gone. On. Yeah. And I don't mean that in disrespectful way, but it has been kissed because he's not an actual partner for versa Van Dyke. And look even at the Aristotle game. One thing that was crucial for for for Liverpool. Today was this. When city pressed you need, your floated bowl into the midfield earn to that area. Behind the press to be really accurate the arsenal goal. At onfield came from Lovran giving the ball away like that on. I never felt that either defensively in terms of actual straight up won't be one defending Lovran was going to be up to it tonight on I worried about his passing out of the back to create opportunities to get down to feet. And if you look at it Andrew the monta times that the Liverpool bowl bulls from the goalkeeper, I must admit his kicking wasn't great either. But from Lovran to break that press, you know, what I'm talking about. Yeah. Absolutely. Clipped ball over the top. Right. It's gotta be good. And it never was the amazing thing you talk about Liverpool's defending, and I don't want to sit here and bash it overall, we can talk about days on Lovin, but JJ I was just thinking about this. So they gave up two goals tonight to Manchester City in this two one loss do even remember the last time Liverpool gave up more than one goal in a game. It was last season wasn't it. Well, no in on this entire no in in the league. You might be right about here. Okay. Well, because I well overall it was PS g who beat them two one in November in the champion. Yeah. I mean this Liverpool defense it's why they're in the position that they're in. There were the questions about it last season than they brought in virtual Van Dyke and Joe Gomez asserted himself in Alexander Arnold asserted himself, and you're left with this team that still has potent offensive attack. But you couple that with what they bring defensively plus Allison, and it's why they are top of the table by four points. But you're right. If you start removing pieces from that Van Dyke can only do so much right on obviously, the midfield. Three of Milner Henderson. I'm when al-din was picked to be a little bit more conservative because he had more offensive options in that. And he didn't choose to use them. And I I was hoping that they would do more to cover the full box train screen dot. The center half position. But didn't really work out that way, we thought it was interesting. What pep Guardiola said after this match there were people. You know, I said before that I thought this was basically titled decider and it Nate Liverpool may still go on to win the title. I think if you looked at it right now, they probably would still be your odds on favorites to do. So. But this felt like that was it. And there were people yourself included said, no, no, no, no. You can't say that. There's still eighteen more games to play but pep himself said after this match that Manchester City treated this as though it was a Cup final. You could tell. Yeah. The way they flew into challenges. How many times were their taxes in the last ditch? I think it was three off the line clearances by city debt. I mean that was that was serious commitment. Although with one of them Anderson comes for a free cake. I I honestly the goal. Keeping tonight from Anderson was I I thought at some stage he's going to do something. And we're going to we're going to capitalize on it. Andrew across goes into the box. He will. He reminds me of Bruce Grobbelaar back in the day. He'll come for Bali's. No right to get to one of those felt for manual somehow cleared off the line, but cities commitment was huge. I've actually made a note here fifty five minutes indicative of city play. I'm reading what you wrote in your notes yet fifty five minutes indicative of city play silo who's broken away on the right hand side of the Manchester City penalty box surrounded on it was LeRoy Saini who wins it back. There was heck of a lot of work on. There was an awful lot of. I'm sure peps guys guys guys talks were really intense, and he pretty much. Got this team into a state of mind where they knew they couldn't lose. And you're starting to once again, see the thing that we talked about with Manchester City before the season that hasn't quite emerged yet this year, but maybe it starting to their death. I think Kevin LeBron's did not play in this game. Riyadh Mars did not play in this game. Walker who one of the most expensive fullbacks in the league did not or came on as a sub in this game Gunderson came on as a sub in this game. Like Gabriel j Zeus did not play in this game. You're starting to kind of remind yourself that they've spent millions and millions and millions across the whole every position, right? Yeah. Which is funny because we talked about last week how? But then when Fernan Dino misses a match it's like there are different side day couldn't won that game tonight without him. Yeah. I think you're right. I really don't think they could have he was he was. Excellent. Now, I should say company was was good. Generally. Speaking company was good tonight. But I think companies career. I mean he had to come off. He was he he'd stiffened up so much struggling with that calf. You've got to wonder and his tackle you should've seen red for the tackle in my opinion on Sada. And that was all because they did not he could have no part of being in a leg Rhys leg wrist, but Mohammadzadeh on he he basically admitted as much he had two options go to ground and trying to open the mind and get the ball or do something. Otherwise, Sada was straighten and gold, and I have to greet your Klopp on that one is not me being biased in the modern game. You can attack like that munching to foot of challenge. Can't do it. Yeah. If they had given it. I'm sure I'm sure pep would a lost his mind. Well, he did. But yeah, I don't I don't think I would have really sat there and said what is the ref thinking he's gotten that completely wrong. I think I think you'd have to understand why something like that would have been ultimately given. Yeah. So we have a total race. We certainly do, sir. We absolutely do. There will be an interlude for the magic of the FA copen, by the way, you have to bring that noise back where it is. You're gonna have to find that. Right. Relax when you do what to watch for. It's being demanded already by who man from southern California who a man from southern California name the name. Rob you made that up. No, all right. Well, find really. Sent a tweet demanding it also showing Ronnie Radford's amazing goal for Hereford United really versus Newcastle. Right. Well, you know what? Now, I believe you, and I will go back, and I will look for it. But yes, we have a tight race. And everybody seems happy about that. Except me. Well, yeah. I mean, like I said you thought you could have won the league today. I wouldn't expect any Liverpool fan to feel happy about it. But you always talk about it's been twenty nine years. And here you are in pole position well past the halfway Mark of the season. I was gonna ask you another question before we move on from this. Where was I? Oh, Paul Merson. I was reading this at Sky Sports Merce. I what is mercy. So here's what Mirsaid I actually have the exact quote in front of me this now this is before Liverpool man city. I read this yesterday. He says this quote if I was Liverpool. I would forget about the Champions League. Now, they have a chance of making history where they would all go down as legends after twenty nine years. They need to put all their eggs in one basket being winning the league. Where do you stand on that? As a Liverpool fan is Gary Neville said that at the start of the season as well. Yeah. I don't know about that. I don't know about it from the point of view of the way Klopp and pep Guardiola. Do approach a lot of things. Now. Do I think there will be players dropped for the FA Cup for sure. But in terms of the Champions League like is can you turn it on and off like that? Can you just decide while we're not gonna play tonight or I'm going to drop players that I don't think you guys don't go all out. Right. You make the decision for them by giving some of your key player. I rest I can't see that. I can't see I can't see Liverpool going out against spare Munich, and no they just I can't see it happening. I don't think it's. I don't think it'd be acceptable at that stage of European competition to play that way as well. Right at this stage. I mean, look what happened to Brendan Rodgers when he wrested players at the about that was so wrong that was so wrong. What was also wrong was that? It was definitely Stevie. Jeez. Final night at the burn abo-, and he was on the bench. So you would. 'cause I I read that. And I thought that is first of all I thought it was selling Liverpool's quality short a. Yeah. I don't like the message it sends to players either. And also the association the club has with with competition with visas in Europe, they've won it more times than any other English club there. It's I don't think the fans would like it. Well, I thought you'd be a little down today. And understandably so, but if I can lift your spirits my holiday gift for you has arrived. I have it with me. Wow. Would you like it? Yeah. Oh god. I hope it's not another crushing disappointment on a day of crushing disappointment might. It's not exactly what I pictured. When I ordered it. Oh here. Let me get all right because I'm tacky lazy to sort of. I don't I don't go for the wrapping. No, if the gift bag, you already just showed you showed me a picture of the gift, and by the way, where is my time in in my wardrobe walked today said so if you warn the sweatshirt yet, I said, it'd be hard to do that considering you haven't given it to me so much has happened in the intervening weeks. All right. So here Lord. Yeah. It's a fictious framed of your of your home. Oh, wow. A framed it's like an old school map of sly go. That's actually really night you like it. All right. Why Lord it's even the old scoots spelling l'aigle? Yeah. With the with the at the end, there's kalani the own beg river Tober curry. I'm where I'm from his on it a Connery. Yeah. And it's got even got mountain and lake maps. This is actually really good. All right. Good. I'm glad I wasn't. Sure. Oh, this is soccer. And you and I really don't have anything else to talk about or share in our lives such a dole. We talk about so many different things even on this podcast kidding point. Yeah. No. This is really good. I'm relieved in a scroll kill glass, while these are all places very much. You're welcome to tweet out a picture of this. Yeah. It's quite I'm glad that that it turned out good. This is hanging up you can prop it up like that. Whatever you want. No. This is really good stuff. That's grit. You feel better. I feel good. Can I can? I just read you what I wrote in my match notes. Jay's is much notes goal. TA Robertson for menial. And then I tweeted straightaway that I haven't felt that good longtime on the worst of joy where did you watch? This. I watched in my office in my cave. It was one of those if I was in a bar anywhere near to anybody would have been how much work was achieved. From roughly three o'clock, the five o'clock eastern time in your office. Huge Mon for the podcast, Hugh. Okay. But it was burst of joy. Yeah. Oh, it lifted me. I don't want moments. We live four those feeling. Yeah. And I don't want to bring it to the bedroom. But I you know, when people say I'm not that mean that was going around. I'm not saying it's better than sex. But I mean, it's different. Obviously, very with that rush dot feeding. Oh, primal, I don't know where coast with every sports fan is felt that at some point. Yeah. Don't worry. You'll feel it again. I know anyway. Yeah. So that's our look at what was the only game of the day. Really? I know there were other games in other leagues. But that's the one we were gonna focus on. I'll tell you what we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back the festive period is now over so we're going to look back in kind of a sign are three winters three losers. Each of us have given to this like crazy time of the Premier League calendar. So we'll do that. Also. Of course, we do have to mention Christian pulisic, there's a reason we haven't talked about that very much up to this point in the podcast. We'll tell you why that is well still plenty to do. Don't go anywhere. It's time. But boy wonder why Christian? Really? Yeah. He really is wonder what point JJ thing about he's twenty years old now, he's almost a man boy wonder watch at some point I think has to transform into young adult wonder watch. It's monica. Therefore, he'll be boy wonder when he seventy only going to show are still being described as the baby fist assassin because he has a baby face is no longer a boy. I if it man if my child had the face of all they're going to share his in his forties. I would be concerned for my child. I would say that child has weathered some. By now, obviously, all of you listening are well aware of the fact that Christian pulisic was sold from Bruce Dortmund to Chelsea for a record fee for an American player Seventy-three million dollars, which is among either the eighth most expensive transfer in primer league history, which puts in with some pretty amazing company. I need the most expensive substitute ever to be. Well, that does raise some interesting points. We're not gonna talk a ton about this. Because I don't know if you guys listening have seen it yet or not up on both are caught off side feed or the ESPN FC feed. But we had grant wall in with us here in studio at caught off site towers for an hour where we talked about almost anything. I think that you as an American soccer fan would be interested in chiefly among those things pupils transfer to Chelsea we talked with them almost I'd say almost half of the time was spent on that. So well, he's got grit insight into pulic having met him interviewed him several times extensive time with him. Yeah. Knows insight out, and we set the table we laid out the landscape for your soccer for twenty nine hundred with ground. Yeah. So I would not and I'm not just saying this because you wanna hide. Because it's our podcast. But honestly, if you're an American soccer fan, if if it was Joe schmo in and Pete Diddley that did the podcast. I would say you should probably as an American soccer fan. Listen to that. It's your Judy. Yeah. It really is. So check that out. Like, I said it's on both our feed the caught off side feed and the ESPN FC feet, but I did want to at least mention a couple of things on the move. I guess the overarching question that everyone has asked us about this is whether or not this is a good thing for him. Now, there's something I heard from Richie of sorry, which kind of caused me to raise an eyebrow. And wonder about that question. Here's what sorry said when he was asked about the transfer appeals coming to Chelsea are you looking to do business in January to bring some new faces in. Yeah. I do know I didn't know anything about Polisi yesterday. Declare basket. My opinion about him. About one month ago. My opinion the Moore's positive today. I knew I ever known that the deal is done. But I didn't know anything. That doesn't sound like I know he said, they asked me my opinion, in my opinion was positive. But I don't know. I I listen to that. I was like this doesn't sound like a man who's thrilled necessarily to have this guy on his team. No, an are that he had full. How would you say economy agency in this signing? No, it doesn't know. No, the modern game kind of operates at a different level. But it seems as if Chelsea are signing Pule sick. That's that make of him. What you will? Yeah. I would've thought you might get you know, some sort of sense of by the way, he wasn't asked about Pacific. That's what am I concerns as he Joel before that question? Six name was mentioned, I cut out. There was a lot of stuff leading up in that quest. Yeah. But he still asked are you doing anymore transfer in transfers in January, and he said, I didn't know in use us Pulitzer because the example of how he didn't know what would be doing. Which is it's important now, it's time at Chelsea football. So there's a lot of uncertainty and. Yeah. I I read that call and I thought okay. Well, this is a man who's just miniaturizing himself with English language. It sounds even worse when you hear them. It's important to point out that fuel sick as he is now property of Chelsea, but he will not be joining him. He was then promptly loaned right back to Bruce Dortmund on you'd hope he'll play. No. Well, I don't really know what what makes the most sense for Gyula set. Like, so what are Borussia Dortmund? What are their plans with this guy coming back there? Now like their plan is if if Sancho or somebody gets injured, I guess, he's an insurance policy. He's he's more. He's someone who can slot in knows the system and can play very well. And I'm sure that it not better for Christian him. Game. But Chelsea wanted what I had read about this was that Chelsea wanted pulic to join them. Now course he preferred to stay at Borussia Dortmund until until the summer, and I just wonder for him wouldn't it make more sense to like get in now. Even if you're not playing right away just to get a head start and get acclimated. So Andrew summer. You've you've already hit the ground running with slice. Anyway, you want. He may not be a regular starter in the team. He is still a useful piece in a team. That's in a championship. Raise is probably gonna win the championship while that's a big statement. He he'll want to be there. Probably what like I said. I don't wanna go to deeply into this. Because we spend a lot of time on our other podcasts today with grant wall talking about that. So make sure you download that. So we'll do our festive winners and losers. So let's do that. We've got from this period of chaos, basically where it feels like you're watching a big game every three days or you're watching your team play every three days. It's it's awesome for us. I sometimes wonder what players managers think about it. As other leagues are going on holiday breaks and things. That. So we've got our three winters three losers. Each of us from the festive period as they call it. We'll do our winters. I you wanna start. Yes. By the way, these aren't in any particular order in terms of just wound two and three. This is my number wound. Whatever you want. All right. All right. Well, because because I'm sure you were I thought we might be talking about Liverpool. I went in a different direction and rewind to last season. I'm sitting on my soul, and I'm watching with regularity Marcus rash for toiling white on the wing for Josie Marino. And I'm asking myself why? And it seems to be that rash. Verd- is one of the early beneficiaries of the Noma renewal era at Old Trafford playing center forward his proper position scoring three goals and assist. Under Oleg or Sasha are ready. Andrew I had key Twitter to bit not heated in, you know, a nice cordial yet back and forth with a couple of Man United. Finds not so long ago under Marino who were like, I don't think rash. I got it exer- what I'm like look aware. He's playing he's got to be in a central position. He's got to play as a striker. He is one of the most talented young despairs there. And he was one of the the main players United who suffered under Josie, marina. I remember him playing right cited midfield against via in the Champions League. Ole Gunnar soldier only had to do was be positive and put them interstate position on. I think rash has already been a winner on is going to go on unto right to the end of the season. Yeah. For my first one, I went a little more broadly than that. I just went with Manchester United as a whole, obviously, you know, we've talked about at length since social took over twelve points from four matches only one manager in Manchester. United history has won his first four matches in charge. Do you know who that was? It was not, sir. Alex Maputo's be. Let's right. He back in nineteen forty six. Not not the. Worst company for social to keep when he came in social he said he wanted the players to be able to express themselves out on the pitch the guy who just mentioned. I mean, does that has that apply to anyone more than Marcus rash ver-? It's it's been like night and day. It's so obvious. That's what's so frustrating. It seems like acts of self sabotage by Marino. Even what you're starting to see from Rome. Lulu Kaku to two goals in his last two games. He had to in his previous eleven appearances before that. And that's not including the matches that he just didn't play in whether it was through injury or whether it was through Marino just having no time for them. And then, of course, JJ there's really I mean, you talk about rash bird as a big winner. How are we not gonna mention Paul pasta? And what's happened within this renaissance that it seems like he's undergone Sincil shires come in. Yeah. I under Marino, you have to admit there were times when we were. I would think even the biggest pod fan was starting to wonder is pot. The really is. He is good as we thought. And I think now there was always that part of you that wondered is it PA. Or is it Marino. I think Pogue in these first four games to a certain extent, not fully. But he's kind of answering that question. I was you know, I was being held back. Look what I'm capable of doing. When you set me free with the four games his most recent against Newcastle. I would say was his least impressive. But that's that's a by the way, a comment. Well, four goals and three assists in these four-game exactly since oh shark came in. He was the team's player of the month for the month of December. Just what were we saying about pug? But during that Liverpool game when he couldn't get in off the bench under Marino. And now he's come in. And he's player the month for them. But even at so them away, he was sold bad. Like, he was a mixture of bad, and you really had that question. You said where you're like might like what did I see in the summer on? What did I see in flashes over last season? Like what where's the real Paul? Right. But I think we're starting to see him. So all right. You're number two winner on the twenty first. To November twenty eighteen Alastair. Mcgowan wrote a piece for the BBC with the headline gambling firms to review number of sports betting adverts after public concerns. It went on the remote gambling association whose members include three six five Labra, potty power and William Hill said it was very mindful of public concerns, and then another piece in it, which just threw me away in. This report was blew me away was on a further report Wednesday stated the number of children classes, having a gambling problem had quadruple to more than fifty thousand in just two years. Now Williams saying all these things Mike Christmas football. Andrew was utterly dominated on television by advertising for betting companies every ad break. Billboards on the sideline. Join games. I was exposed to the most incredible deluge of advertising of wounds specific form of product. I could not get over it. Even in the time since I've been home say last Christmas for the really busy Christmas period. It's gone. Even further. So who's the winner here? The winners gambling. There are losers everywhere. That's the very nature of gambling more losers than there are winners. But I'll tell you in football the advertising site if things is utterly dominated now by wound industry. I've never seen the like of it. Now nearly sixty percent of clubs in England's top two divisions. Have gambling companies undershirts? I wonder. With the new laws that are coming in in certain New York's days and in New Jersey what what's going to happen over here as well. Are we going to see the same kind of thing happened? I bet that we will. I mean, they're such a market for it. And yeah, I I'm sure I had to put this in shoehorn it in because I couldn't believe what I was watching my number two winner starts with a trivia question. JJ outside of the top six in the league. Just one club has more wins than losses and a positive goal differential. Do you know who that club is? No, I do not at Leicester City. That's less. There's less sit less. Does that they're the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen champions Voday in the last week and a half. They've beaten Everton Manchester City, and Chelsea sure they did lose to Cardiff. But I suppose those things happen. Pule needs to be sucked. Perpetually like, he's always justly lives on the hot seat, even when things are actually going pretty well for the club that he's in charge of Jamie, Varda's, two goals and an assist over those four games. In addition, some other some of the vets Vardi all Brighton, there's a young core that feels like it's starting to emerge now with this lesser team Madison McGuire show, well, Wilfred indeedy. I feel like is not a young player. He's like twenty two years old. I think he's he's still very young player. The challenge for them is going to be to keep these guys because you know, they're going to be in demand by the top six, by the way, the three wins that I mentioned they all had one thing in common, which is kind of a random thing. They were hums show. Juries only three league starts of the season. And I think I might have butchered his last name Chowdhry Chow. Yeah. That's right. He started out unless there's a kademi at age seven, and he's the first player of Bangladeshi descent ever to play in the Premier Li he's a in. He's played for the England under twenty's. I think. Yeah. Because he was born in England. But I think is mother is from Bangladesh, and that is huge because there is a huge Bangladesh, Pakistan, Pakistani population is well in England and these players from that part of the world are from that that area of of Asia don't really break the way through for some reason despite being such a big part of English life footballing kosher doesn't seem to seep in there. And so that is huge. So not a bad start to his time with the senior team in the league and your final winner. Ryan Fraser of born Muth. Christian Erickson, more, Sal. And the euro sign I have seven assists each season and hazard is joint top on nine with the board of man. The we Scott Ryan Fraser, a meteoric rise for the twenty four year old on his crazy think he left Aberdeen in the Scottish primarily to join borth when they were in league one. That's how far back he's being with them. We went on loan tips which little bit, but he registered his ninth assist in the three three draw with Waterford the vitality game on Tuesday. Yeah. His goal rescued a point form through how difficult Christmas that's fair. But Ryan Fraser continues and has continued over Christmas to be quite the player. Did you happen to see the post-match interview yet on that now? So first of all, yeah. What do you think of having one player of it? I'm one player from the opposition gets great joint interview. I love it. I think it's so his face was also it's for anybody who didn't see it. It's Troy Deeney and Ryan Fraser being interviewed together. So player from Waterford Anna player from born Muth and Troy easy. He does not hold back with Frazier right next to him. And he basically talks about how Wofford were jogged, and he says the referee bottled at today, and he just goes in on the referee and Fraser is stunned to hear a guy talking about the ref like this, and you just see his face his eyes bulge out of his head as Dini is slow. So he probably doesn't agree with this will probably not he's he's saying this guy is basically saying that we were lucky to get a point today. I wanna punch this guy in the it was I enjoy those. I feel like there's like a weird camaraderie slash tension with guys from each team standing next to each other. It's like different. But kind of I don't know. I like it. No, I like it too. Yeah. J J my last winter here kind of changing on the fly because I was expecting you to have Liverpool. But you didn't. But I feel like they need to be mentioned. So I have you and me as winners from this period. You first because Liverpool correct me if I'm wrong, but when the month of December started they were what was it two points back of Manchester City for top of the table. And now they find themselves four. Points up as we exit this period and head now into January. That's an amazing turnaround one that I think a lot of people didn't see coming. Not just not mean. And I mean that is a slight against Liverpool. I mean that has you know, Manchester City are who they are. And for Liverpool to take advantage in the way that they did of Manchester City dropping points in back to back matches. I think it's huge for them. And now like we said they are in pole position. This is now their league to lose whether you want to admit that or not, and then I put me in there as well. And I felt a little bit. We're doing it after the wolves match. But ultimately, I'm trying to keep some perspective here with Spurs. And I know people are saying oh Spurs Andy Spurs the Andy Spurs e Andy, but hear me out. That's what they're saying. In the month of December Tottenham achieve qualification to the round of sixteen of the Champions League. Getting a result in Barcelona reached the semi's of the League Cup by beating arsenal in north London. Darby and moved up from fifth to third in the table and possibly may be kinda sorta find themselves on the fringes of title race. Obviously, the disappointing gets wolves is hard to get past. But it's just not a club. That's going to win every game. They are going to lose against some teams that you think they should beat and wolves is a likely candidate knowing how wolves. Play against the top six. So you look at the bigger picture you see the positive results see upward momentum. You see them playing fun football. And so I say overall that game side, I I have really really enjoyed these last few weeks of them. So I think you and I came out of this. Winter's. Yeah. Where where the real winners here. What about the losers? Would you like to go first? Yeah. Sat down in New Year's day to watch Everton LeicesteR in what on paper to my mind, at least was tasty offering I was hung over. And so two it appeared where the twenty two men playing football. It was a dire game at times and Everton were virtually indistinguishable from the last days of Kumon and a performance devoid of creativity, our competence, and the competence is the big thing. No less, there, weren't grit. But when feel Walcott's misplaced had or was bumbled. I love that word. It's the only way to describe what Michael Cain. Did. I thought that was more on keen than Wolcott. Oh, andrew. Yes. Obviously, he should still. But it's a terrible header it was so much power on on that way. What's wrong? Which wasn't on purpose because it was right at Qian's feet and Keene. Just like then made a mess of it. There's no way that could have been a perfect many times. I was trying to determine if Wolcott meant to do that or not or he is extra corners in his head that it's just gone off at that angle. Bumbled by Michael Cain, Pereira points with variety through the score. You knew all you knew Andrew. There was little or no chance of Everton. Rescuing this one winning it for the Toffees since the crossbar tackle Jordan Pickford at Anfield. They were wretched and back back to fades away at Brighton on home to LeicesteR. No, it's not working out for me with Keenan Zuma at the bike. He dropped James Colman put in Jonjo Kenny that didn't work out. Andrew Goldman's got the curly finger whipped out of the game cigarettes as an owner ten not convinced by I don't think it's working out and Richarson looks looks jaded looks at it bit tired, and he needs to be more central instead of Dominic Calvert Lewin. Look it's early days. There were boos at full-time there. The evident fans aren't happy with what they're seeing. Silva deserves time, but they have spent money maybe not so much under seven but money. Well, yeah, actually money has been spent under him who was he really brought in that was with a really high price tag Bernard. Well, actually, I need to check on money money of those are loans, but you know, he has been able to bring in players, and I'm just not convinced with what I'm seeing on. No, I still like him. And I still like what he's trying to do there. And I think he's trying to figure out who he can move forward with. And who he has. No. Yeah. That's probably true too. But right now, it's not good. It's not going to watch. It was a it was a rough stretch for them. There's no question about it. My first loser JJ, basically for all of the opposite reasons that I gave for Mench. United success is Josie Marino, you know? It's like when. Sometimes you can learn a lot about somebody when he's no longer at a place like when Peyton Manning left the Indianapolis Colts. And they went like one in fifteen you're like, why always knew Peyton Manning was good. But oh my God. Like, he's he was really scary. Good look at what they are. Now, look at Manchester, the change in Manchester. United was just so profound from one day. He's there and their dire. The next gone and the really fun to watch and they're winning games. Like, it was nothing. So I felt like I had no choice but to put him on this. I mentioned rash before, you know, a young player promising playing for his country but being held back at club level by marina Marino Radford specifically, fourteen appearances under Marino, the season three goals and eleven shots on target ten fewer appearances he's had under sole Shire. Same number of goals. Just one fewer shot on target like you said he's a different player. Yes. I'm aware. It's been against Newcastle. Born Muth Huddersfield in Cardiff, but it's in by aggregate score that they've won a fourteen to three fourteen goals in four matches JJ scored fourteen goals Josie Marino's last night. Nine matches total in charge. Remember this club that lost a Brighton? They lost a west hand. They drew with wolves. They lost Darby county on penalties in the care about Cup. Barely got past Newcastle at home. You couldn't take anyone for granted when it was Marino's Manchester United. So the change has just been it's just been so dramatic. I have to make him. What am I lose IRS? Who's your next one? You though. Sometimes you just need Newcastle legend Alan Shearer to sound off on his club. And he makes them really interesting points in this for BBC radio five live. I was on field on books, and I looked at team then twenty as ago when Newcastle hot does classic games against Liverpool. The full three games, which everyone talks about looked at the midfield. And I looked at the full woods. Then you Lynn twenty years ago. How to five million pound player the bolt David Butti for around about five million pound then midfield is on field on books day. Hayden on which cost both cost of roundabout. Five million pound. I looked at the center for the day twenty years ago, they paid about six million pound the less food and on the had a six million pound fold on books in your Salou. So that sells you exactly when you cuss at all you hear that. And you're almost shocked to see them playing in the Premier League. Yep. You are and beneath his demeanor over Christmas has been pretty low. And he believes they'll be relegated. If they can't make changes in January. And there is very little faith the Mike Ashley would spend. You fans are writing to Ashley. On mass to ask them to please spend money because they know which way this is heading and their two points off Southampton in eighteenth. They've done amazingly. Well, because even where they are. I don't know, man. I worry for them. I can't believe he's that Benitez is still there. Yeah. Well, you know, what it's contracts Andrew has every right to see his out. But I think he made their heading for him. I'm saying I would've thought that he would have just either resigned. But I guess he wants to collect money. No. He is a commitment there because he's he's being taken to the bottom of that city, and he has done some escape artistry particularly last season. Yeah. But it's bad. It's really bad. Let's see my second. Loser. JJ is the arsenal. Lost the Southampton on December sixteenth then got eliminated from the League Cup on the nineteenth. Bounceback did beat Burnley three days later, but then drew with Brighton. And then got hammered by Liverpool before ending this period with a win over Fulham fans are getting restless there they booed. I am really other day when he subbed off Alexander Lakas that for Aaron Ramsey, and then you see what happened lock has gone on the fans he pointed to his head basically trying to signify to the fans they need to think before they do. So that was fine with the sub Ramsey came on. And then scored almost. Immediately. Meanwhile, missiles future seems uncertain now both Ozos team and Arsenal's team or arsenals management. Both say he's not going anywhere in January. But they're gonna meet during the summer and kind of assess what his future looks like is he knew Niamey's plans on a report three hundred fifty thousand a week. Yeah. My god. And he's sometimes he's not in the squad. He's on the bench. So right. You don't know when he's gonna play right now. He did come back for a couple of games. But now he's out again with a knee issue. I dunno it just for club. Like, you just think about where they were at the start of December in that for to win over Spurs and they're flying high. And you think about where they are now and amazing how much things can change not just like empirically, but just like morale how much it can all change so quickly. So that is why I do put them as one of my losers of the period and your final one wolves versus the teams day told you not to worry about wolves of eating Tottenham and Chelsea in December on Tuesday. They lost the Crystal Palace. And this is following a trend. They've also lost the season to crystal in Brighton. Now, there's no question. This team is a talented team. There's also no question that it is the fairly expensively assembled site. And that some of these players. Maybe have aspirated of playing against those high level teams that they do so well against but. I'm not gonna call it stats or anything because I watched it myself. So I know they lost Liverpool Mullah new before Christmas. But the chances they created the intensity with which they played with was notable until Liverpool pulled away with that second gold, and then watch them draw one with Fulham. Away and the disparity in the way, they played it didn't they didn't look like the same site. And fact, if anything it was don't Fulham's prolificacy that they didn't just blow them off the field in the first half in particular on. So. The monitor numerous Burgess Sante has to do something with this group and say that you're not auditioning for these sides are playing against you know, you've got to put in the same level of intensity and -plication against these bottom at teams who's that on like is that on him to like is it his responsibility to to get them up for games that maybe are a little bit more difficult for players to get excited about it. I mean, it's always the manager's responsibility in that regard to prepare to have them ready. It's kind of just incumbent on these players. Look, you're paid very handsomely to go out there like this isn't just Uber's Chelsea. All right. Like there's more than just the top six in this league. And you need to be professional shop for work every day, regardless of who the opponent is. I I go back and forth on who's responsibility. It is you look at some of the players. They have other cost. You are Motin. You Nevez Jimenez gonna pick it up dishes. Really do because there's times when I watch them, and they are just playing brilliant football against really good sides on like I said, I mean, the performance against chessy, particularly in the second half was was superb. Now, look I feel a little bit guilty getting on them. Because if you're a newly promoted side to the Premier League what's mission one stay up rice their ninth right now. They are. But are they an newly promoted side in the sense of other newly notes they are not right. They are very much different project. My final loser. JJ? I actually feel terrible about this one. Because you know, he's one of my favorite players in the league. And that is Wilfred zyppah. Oh, I adore him. And kills me. But he's in the midst of actually a quietly brutal scoring drought. He scored three goals in his first four matches of the season. But he hasn't scored since he's over his last thirty one shots, which is among the worst scoring drought right now in all of Europe. If you look at across the big leagues. In in European soccer. And you know, what else happened at the start of this festive period. JJ what we talk about. All the time the streak has been broken palace. Finally won a game in which Wilfred saw didn't play when they beat Leicester City. One nil. Salam get rid of in January. You don't need them received. I don't know if you saw this. But he received an outrageously lucrative offer. I think from a Chinese club that he turned down. But there is some concern. Alec Crystal Palace's to just how much longer he is going to remain a player on that team this summer. I would imagine me to but. Yeah, he did. I think the Chinese offer was I I forget exactly what the number was. But it was it was substantial. So there you go. That is our our three winners and losers from the festive period, you should contact us with your winners and losers at CO soccer pod. A cough, say pottage, Email dot com. You can also contact us. You have Konta contacted us in the last week or so, and that is why we have a mailbag we do have do you know, what I'm going to skip because we talked about Manchester City in. At the top podcast. I'm going to skip those emails. That's you a soccer pod. Coffee pot at gmaiLcom Abe, Rupert kicks us off. I'm an arsenal and US fine. Is there a caught off site proven? Call would -peutic signing Chelsea that can help my very confused American brain. Yeah, I'm dealing with a little bit of that too. With the Tottenham Chelsea rivalry as well. Look may not sound like an easy thing to do. But you just you compartmentalize it. Yeah. And American fans, we talk about this on the grant wall podcast. So we do it all the time. There's guys that you love on your college team. Then get drafted to a team that you despise. But you continue to like that player. And look this is this is the nature of soccer, where international soccer means so much. Like, you've got American players that you love that sometimes aren't gonna play for clubs that you love. But we love him, and I will always root for him to do. Well, I will not root for Chelsea to win. But I can still root for Christian to perform a high level. And we're all going to have to learn to to do that. At Glen Stor. I've had a soft spot in my heart for reading since they were last in the prim. I don't know hoity if they're upcoming FA Cup match against mine. United had a few weeks ago. They might have had a shot. Now, I just have to beg for mercy writing. Of course are second from bottom in the championship. And they face a rejuvenated Manchester United used to enjoy them a little bit because Bobby Condie. Played for reading who's he was a young American kinda of star in the making who didn't quite I think realizes potential and the goal keeper Marcus hahnemann around amendment. Yeah. Although I always associated more as a wolves player, but he was reading I he made his bones at reading, I'm just telling you, also very accomplished helicopter pilot really believe so did not know that. Yeah. Asset the panda curious on old Spurs Andy's take on Adrian rubble rejecting a move to Tottenham because they are below. Actually annoyed with you. Because I think he is below this podcast, and I had no intention even mentioning that these name on this show JJ when I read it only in D rant. What I read it JJ. I was like I was like don't I saw the tweet with the quote, and I just had to say don't throw your computer out the window. Don't throw your computer. I was so angry. I it's just like something about the smugness of that comment. I just wanted to say who are you? What have you achieved to be talking this way? Like get out of here. Get off my timeline go and get get nowhere near my club. I want no part of you on Tottenham. I was like I don't know it struck a chord with like, whatever, you know, I suffer from an unbelievable inferiority complex. And he just banging he punched at the center of that. If he was crafting a comment to hurt you specific just the smugness of it. And just for some reason like it coming from a guy that like, I don't know. You're you're you're a good player fine. But like your. Neymar like real like, oh, I've I was like I hope he goes to arsenal. I want him. Now where we were Tottenham compla- him. I want I want Eric dire hard into those tackles. I hope he goes to some other club in the league. Oh, I wanna see him twice a year JJ, and in cups human need to see your therapist twice a month. Things almost like I'm almost annoyed that we got this week because I was not going to mention his name. I have no intention of ever mentioning again. You know, I made my list for US soccer. We hadn't talked about it in a while. But after you who have wronged him, right? Those who have wronged us list episode of the podcast if I started one for Tottenham right at the top can you stop hammering the tape raviol- right at the top. Okay. Done with him. Joel Bruhns grit win for Fulham. So that was was this December thirtieth. This was sent. So that was the win over Huddersfield. Yes. Assessing young goal on next pod. Please. Explain penalty kick etiquette. It's not etiquette. It's your manager telling you who the penalty kick takers are. And you add hearing to that. How did Kamara just rip the ball away for Mitch isn't manager yelling on the sideline who's to take it very much so Claudio run year? He was huge upset. Kamara rip the ball away for Mitch and then proceeded to miss the penalty. But thankfully, Ryan sesame on scored on that was three valuable points for Fulham. But there is no etiquette. The route what Claudio rent rainier? He said afterwards was the when Mitch is on the field. He takes the penalties. If Mitch wasn't there. Then Kamara will be next in line. But you don't just take it into your own hands. And you've got to score. We saw it with Milivoy vich and Ben techy. That's right. Yeah. Ben berger. Nice name. Yep. I just came out of they shall not grow old. Really? Glad you discussed it on the show last week incredible movie. Yeah. I saw it as well. It was man. It was I'm glad very glad I saw. I couldn't believe how many theaters were sold out. I had to get deep into my list of theaters around me, I had to go to a story to see it, and I don't I don't live in a store anymore. It was pretty impressive. I would say the trailer was so excellent that I'd say soaked in a lot of people, and I don't know where I'm going to see it. And I'm sure you'll get a chance. Search continues on finally Alan Shearer Newcastle. United striker. Record primarily goal score England, former ligon international soul, I'm sitting at home. I better give the background to this sitting at home watching matches day in Arlon, which I don't get a opportunity to do because they live in America, and Gary Lineker, we've just watched Fulham in Huddersfield aforementioned game on Gary Lineker, drops lovely killed Claudio. Shakespeare reference from much ado about nothing because toady are in year. He had said, I will I wanted to kill Kamara. So Lineker goes it cuts back in the studio, and he goes kill Claudio, which is a line from what you do about nothing. And he goes certainly wasn't much to do about nothing. They're good for him. Which wasn't. I mean, it was clunky. Didn't quite work. Neither Danny Murphy are Alan Shearer reacted at all. There's about a millisecond awkward silence. And then Lineker pivots to the game. Because they probably just didn't know, right. I would have known. So I treated this Jerry comes on his high horse. Gary Lineker drops a lovely Claudio. Shakespeare reference from much ado about nothing matches the day, and he gets nothing from Alan Shearer. And Danny Murphy, and I wrote Philistines now that was clearly a joke. I don't expect crayton's. I'm not exactly sure what they should have responded to. But I was teasing. I was teasing. I mean, what are you looking for one? Yeah. I mean, let's drop when when Craig Shakespeare was manager guys we did a lot of Shakespeare references. It was it was it was low hanging fruit. Yeah. And it was a daunting search. So so cheer is on almost directly after the show ends. It's eleven thirty pm. And eat tweets this. He sa-. He tweets he goes. I always preferred the tragedies wit for this for burn you better. Have this ready? I always preferred the tragedies. Having heard your podcast seems the same applies to you. God. Wow. Wow. So I tweeted back. What I'm interpreting from this tweet is that Alan sure listens to the pod about that. Yeah. But now I was like being so nasty like that was come on. He's just having a joke. Yeah. But I looked at his timeline. And he literally fielded about ten tweets from people who are just crushing him on his analysis is thought was really good. I enjoyed listening to him talk about the games, but it's sorta off over there because it's so tribal he gets accused of bias on an almost minute by minute basis after matches day, you know, I'm a delicate flower, and I'm not offended by what he said at all. I think he's clearly kidding brilliant. Because he's tied in Shakespeare's tragedies and our podcast. Yeah. Good. So that was the male Daikin ice. What to watch for FA Cup? Jason FA Cup weekend. Friday to forty four. I can't find it. I'm sorry. What I've done a search. And I can't find it. You can't find the magic have said this to me before the show. I'm trying to do the podcast. You see me? Like, I engineer basically in front of me. I'm trying to find drops on this massive page of different things. I can't find how will you typing out an FA Cup wa to watch. And the thing you think of is the magic noise. So you're right. I dropped the ball. Okay. What do you want to do? So what are what are we stop the show? Now. That's it. Go home, everyone stopped listening God in heaven. Okay. FA Cup Friday. Now, we'd say the magic because this is the magical round this is the big enter employee. What to watch for? I have only tried to identify matchups that put together. Like, you say real minnows and giants look I in some sense Friday to forty five Tranmere. Rovers and Tottenham Hotspur the third team in Liverpool. Tranmere trimmer, currently ninth in league to just a a quick course. I got like little tiny tidbits on some of these little teams here from two thousand to two thousand four actually Tranmere. Reached the FA Cup quarterfinals three times. And they went to the League Cup final in two thousand then they fell out of the football leagues. Right. A catastrophic plunge. But now they're back and they welcome Spurs to Prenton park in the playoff last year to get themselves back into the league. They went down to ten men after in forty eight seconds into the non league final the playoff final. I'm sure they were terrified, but they managed to win that to one and they are now backing league football this match. Well. Earn Tranmere five hundred thousand pounds, which I'm sure for them is huge massive so good for them. That's friday. If you get a chance to check that out Saturday, ten AM Lincoln city and Everton Lincoln city right now, our top of the table and leaked to and if you see that name, and you're thinking, we're did I that sounds familiar where if I heard that well, you may remember two years ago they went on a little bit of a run in the FA Cup. They knocked Burnley out at this stage. Right. Yeah. Saturday twelve thirty Crystal Palace and Grimsby town Grimsby town thirteenth league to they've won six of their last eight in all competitions. You know, JJ who wants managed Grimsby town is a connection to your club. I think go on Bill Shankly. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know who their biggest rival is no whole city, but they haven't met in a league match since the late eighties. You haven't played it all since nineteen ninety eight physi- Yorkshire Darby. How do you like it just seems funny to me to continue to be rivals with club that you just simply don't play? Oh, but did that is a regular? I mean, we see it with like, you know, in the the south coast you see with Portsmouth and Southampton now with Newcastle and Sunderland. Yeah. It's it's very regular weird to me. But the thing that you hang onto the hate which is important Sunday nine AM Fulham and Oldham athletic Oldham, our tenth and lead to looking to reach the fourth round for the first time since two thousand twelve thirteen when they lost to Everton in the fifth round JJ on Wikipedia, you know, who is identified as an old athletic fan. No, Paul Scoles supporter of old math leading. In fact, skulls actually admitted to wanting their managerial job back in October of two thousand seventeen but lost out to Richie. Wellens I over the weekend, by the way on NBC 'Send, speaking of Paul skulls, I watched like it was basically Gary Neville sitting down with skulls and just looking watching like skulls greatest highlights. I thought it was tremendous. Oh, really enjoyed it. Gary Neville, sucker Bach. It was great. It's so good. Yeah. You know what? When I recommend for you. What's Gary Neville was sitting down with Robbie Keane? Oh, yes done. Oh my God. And some of the goals he scored at Spurs. Good Lord was. Yeah. Like, it's funny. I never thought of Paul skulls is really like a great goal scorer. But oh my God. Did they show the gold against Bradford? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On the full volley. Oh, don't show is awesome. Nettles great. He really is really really fun on that show. Let's see. And then finally Sunday eleven thirty AM Newport county and Leicester City Newport county or twelve leaked to I don't actually have any kind of fun to bid on them her county. Their Welsh day ourselves day. They fell out of the football league for one to well. They're back. They are back. They are back and they're getting Doug Spurs played their last season. I believe okay. I'll say honestly, I don't remember rooting for Newport higher. You should have been oh red card. Yeah. What do you got its tweet? I'm finicky. I'm catching up with tweets from our listeners, and it's made its way in and it's not you for Jones Asaka pot. I'd love to hear some discussion about the madness. Rounding Italian football right now racism targeted towards Kuta Bali dead. Find another stop all last week. Imagine the scenes if this had happened at an American sporting event, God Syria. So that was. That was not believe an inter are inter-napoli which descended into abuse. From the stans foam inter fans for Napalese Kula Bali and not only coach Carlo Ancelotti said the next time. A member of his team is racially abused. He'd be happy for the series. So I stop playing and. Yeah, it was it was it was pretty awful on. We're asked to comment on this on. It's not being particularly good period for for this kind of incident. Not just initially. There was an incident at the Edinburgh Darby a man has been arrested hips fine for racially abusing a black hearts player. And of course, we had that incident at Chelsea. Recently. So I don't know. I mean, imagine the scenes if this happened at an American sporting events. Does racism in American life. It doesn't have to be at a sporting event. And I think that's the key thing to understand with this. There are certain people, right? No feel extremely emboldened to say these reprehensible things, and I know we're seeing it in the terraces again when we thought it had gone away at no it's never gone away in Italy. It's been a constant problem. I don't know how many times this podcast reports on something from Italy on a regular basis. I don't know what your thoughts are on it. There was a lot of suggestions. The referee should have stopped the game. According to Syria ficials dots. Not within his gift to do that. It's only the police can do that. Because there's a public public safety concern about emptying stadium. Just like that that it could escalate a situation. Yeah. Which I which I could see why they would think that way. I mean, look, I I don't know this is a generational problem. This is an issue that I get solved overnight, it isn't solved in general culture. So why should sports culture, sadly, be any different? Yeah. Yeah. I've always kind of felt that it is incumbent sometimes on other fans to let you know, if somebody is saying something that is offensive, and you know, is not a part of your belief system in any way. But I think fans need to let fans. No, it's not okay. And I've talked about, you know, getting in touch with stadium security, if if stadiums offer text messaging that you can anonymously text to to report a fan that stuff needs to be known teams need to make sure that fans are aware of that. If they're not comfortable with something that's happening around them. There was a Chelsea incident. Also Chelsea supporter has now been banned from ten games for three years for shouting, homophobic, abuse, George, Bradley pleaded guilty at Brighton. Magistrates court to the charge of using threatening abusive or insulting behavior to cause harassment alarm or distress. He was thrown out of Chelsea's game at Brighton on December sixteen twenty year old guy. I mean like this stuff needs to happen. I don't I don't know how to stop it other than just, you know, this kind of enforcement. Now, there is being sanctions taken against inter as well, we should point out that that will happen, but they're playing behind closed doors. Yes. Two games. I don't know. What else to say other than that? It's it's disgusting. Red cards on over the course of this podcast voted to this. You're right. It's crazy. But I will say they I do take issue with the magin the scenes if this happened in an American sporting event. We have problems in this country. It doesn't have to be sport. I think that's key to answer. You mentioned a stabbing before. Yeah. There was there was a fine stabbed. Apparently. It would be a pretty big deal. I think avenue. Yeah. I know. I'm just I'm kinda just dealing often thing at the time, which is the racism. I I don't know. It. It's wrong to say, I'm sick talking about it because you most confront these things, but it is depressing. Yeah. Sure. As JJ my red card is to Neil Warnock. Neil Warnock's gotta be up there with he's he's a regular Redwood red card kind of guy guys just like I'm just so over this guy. I've just had it with I've had it with them. Now, everyone has had their say I'm being on being sensitive Andy here, but hear me out everyone's had their say on the Tottenham stadium situation. So why not him war? No. Here's here's the thing. I want you to tell me if what he's saying makes sense to you. And if it does I will resend this red card, but I just want one favor from you be honest. Don't just go against me. Because you think it's fun. And I love Colin. All right. Here's what Warnock said the league should enforce them. Spurs to play at Wembley now for the rest of the season. I don't think there should be any chance of an advantage to any of our opponents. It's not our fault. We should have been playing at the new stadium ourselves. I think they the league should step in. Now it should. Until the end of the season. Now, I think they shouldn't force. It undermines the integrity of the competition. So what he's saying is that their relegation rivals. When Tottenham moves into their new stadium later, the season will have an advantage that they did not have how explain that to me. The attendance for most taught in the matches at Wembley is capped at fifty one thousand at the new stadium. It'll be over sixty two thousand okay, puch, Tino said this about Wembley just a week ago. That is why when I this is a quote from it that is why when I asked before do you want to move I say, of course, as soon as possible because it's going to be a massive boost for the team. And for our fans, it's going to be a place where the fans can help the team to achieve what we want. Am. I missing something JJ. The advantage is to you who got to play the net Wimbley, which they don't even view as their home. They view themselves as having playing road games every week of the season, by the way, people think he looks like Livia surprise. As he on his mother. He okay. How is the advantage to these teams who will have to play Tottenham in? What like Spurs are desperate to get in there. They've done with Wendy. They think it's a sterile environment all the empty seats because they cap attendance, fifty one thousand it's like an abandoned warehouse. This new place say what you want about it not being White Hart Lane. You're right. It's going to be different. But fans are so excited to have a place of their own. It's going to be a culture in. It's not going to be easy for Newcastle to go in there late in the season. What is he talking about? Like, I read that I had to read it three times weight is he like confused is he he's not I'm confused. What I it's so obtuse. It's such an op cheuse argument to make by the way, this was after a game in Cardiff got hammered over twenty five minutes. It doesn't matter where they're playing these this is so weird. I'm sorry. I. He is he's turning into. I mean, he was always that weird. All non like, KOMO jn this he had something he loves winding thing against Tottenham before the match. He said I'm instructing my players not to breathe on them in the box. He said that what is the he's old school? He is from the north. You are from the south of them. So than softies. Human Komen to the no well actually coming across to South Wales. I don't know, man. Maybe I'm missing something. So now, he's always been like that. This is so weird. I want you to watch the the Sheffield United documentary that was on sky. It's on YouTube. I've said I've talked about it before Warnock. Okay. Just watch it. It's from about twelve thirteen wakes me angry. Now, I don't need that. I don't need this. I think you'd hate him even more that I agree with, but he even used to a fulltime at games he used to wander on on and and say things to the opposition to the mope. There's a classic example. So they've just beaten Millwall at Millwall Jody Morris to move on midfielders coming off and there'd being a frat calf with Kevin muskat on some of the United players and he's walking off. And he goes you deserve that. You deserve that. Because what most got sought on Jodie Marsh goes what you deserve it. You know? I was just saying you deserve it. Because most got did why are you saying to join him hours? Walk off the field. That's pretty fun trying to. Yeah. Real quick before we get to our men, and I should actually give one more red card. It was on the screen all along. I just didn't see it. Oh, so I'll take a red card for that caught off sides man of the match. What do you got speaking of Sheffield United Billy sharp? Here's a guy. We don't talk about very much, and we really should he set and you record in English football at the weekend. He was on target for the fifth time in four games to help chef who United to victory at Wigan and in the process become the leading goalscorer in English league football this century, the leading goalscorer in English league football this century. The thirty two year old took his tally to two hundred twenty since making his debut in two thousand and four won't goal. More than former Southampton England striker Rickie Lambert. Yeah. This wouldn't have been my guess. No. Right. This is in the little stress list mixed with. That's true skies. So Billy sharp English league football, by the way is the four division. Right. Right. Where you need to make clear because sometimes it's confusing to you Americans. Why that is that is so rude meant it though. No, I meant look, it's fine. I understand that we have soccer p brains. No, no, no. No, no. I was I was jesting. So the top goalscorers English football this century number one is Billy Shire incredible to Rickie Lambert three win Rooney. He would have been my guess for one four Jim into full five Frank Lampard, six Sergio Guerrero and seven how you can who considering his age at one hundred twenty one goals is scoring quite the pout, Billy, sharp and Rickie Lambert. What a incredible top two. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. So those guys are the the illustrious company that is now topped by Serbia sharp who I will hope. Be knighted in the queen's honours this next year. Let's see my man of the Mets JJ goes to TI goes sterling, I watched a video the other day of Rahim. Sterling's one year old son Tian, go playing soccer in their house. And I was blown away by his technique is so much better than yours. Honest, truly, and I don't even take that as an insult. That's the way to his running is his. Yeah, I have. I mean, it's mainly a visual that like, you can kinda hair. Did you see did you see the moment where he traps the ball like controls it and puts his foot on top coming. You'll hear it kind of. Avoided would. There we go. We go. By the way, breaking news. Adopt me were him sterling like how can you watch that video and not just smile? Oh, he looks like the best. I love him. What a dad father the year? Are you making this creepy? Adopt me off me the I want him to love me the way that he appears to love TI. I go in those clinical God, I have visions of you know, running in a nappy kicking balls around a mansion in Lanchester. I thought it was great. I just like so enjoyed watching it him with his son. Hugging him. Come. Celebrate. With me with me. Oh, beautiful. He's my TI goes the man of the match. But. Yeah, Rahim if you if you're listening come and get me, I can't wait for the Daily Mail headline for this. Well, I mostly collect pay rent. Rhyme, Starling allows child to Ronin house. Has world come to. Mikako parent Ryan sterling leaves topless child in video. Phil find a way. No that won't not on this one looks like just an awesome, dad. Just enjoyed it is impossible to watch that video smile star across. I was. I was at home. Now, that's a wound year old. So I'm at home. But my niece who is two and a half. Her technique is terrible. Yeah. It's so disappointed. The problem viewer embarrassed. She can't trap it. Her crossfield pass is dreadful. She's poor. She's a poor player. And she announces when the poo was coming. Speaking of which I just got note actually earlier today to Jack pooped on the potty. And that is a first. So we are celebrating. Yeah. That's a big deal in the gun house. God is huge. You know, what else is the length of this podcast? I don't even know what to say. If you're still listening. I apologize for for infecting your day. The way that we have with so much content. We also have another podcast out. I don't even know if you have time to listen. But if you do it would be appreciated stop grovelling weaving exit here, I'm taking this from here on we have an excellent podcast with grant wall, which completely sets you up for the year in US soccer that is a head twenty-ninth. We talk about all aspects of it. He's excellent. He gives his insight on Christian -peutic. It's so good. Also what you should do. If you've got to the end of this podcast, which Andrew doesn't believe you how we have a target. Well, I've attack it we need to get a thousand reviews on I tunes. And then what just we'll pop the bottles. We'll celebrate like it's nineteen ninety nine well this. So if you can go on live, leave us a review that would be awesome guys. Well, by the way. Yeah. People crying out for more content from most and you refuse to deliver. I'm when you refused to deliver. I'm sitting here, aren't I when you finally do just moan it's because it's me I feel like I'm imposing I feel it's too much. I know people, and I know they they look at how long this podcast was when they downloaded it and they rolled their eyes. I can't you're you're I know that your ideal push notification system on people's phones for this podcast, would you're would be your head. Popping up and going. It's pretty long, and you don't probably wanna listen if you click on my face now, you can listen to the podcast, but you know, don't go don't don't go to any trouble. Don't you know me? So. Well, yeah. Actually, you know, what forget it. And then you disappear. You're right. You're right. Well, hey, this was fun. I hope it was at least a little therapeutic for you more soccer action this weekend with the magic of the FA Cup to you. I say. Bossia take care. Listening to caught off side soccer podcast.

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Should Mourinho Return to Real Madrid?

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Should Mourinho Return to Real Madrid?

"Walgreens, this ESPN FCA. I'm Dan Thomas joined by Stephen ago, pull mariner here in the studio. We also welcome from Spain. Sid low is with us. And it's a league that we start, of course, ram Madrid the moment ten point solve boss loner. The of the sable loss against and as yesterday in the cop. I'll right, but they still advance. But sit the big takeaway from watching any row Madrid game at the moment is how dreadful they are. And how there's no real signs of improving. I think that's quite right. I sometimes, you know, we analyze things we look into into all the various debates and the doubts and there should display apply the plant and every now, and again, we're just draw them back to something. So so simple nothing. You've said it ruptured a not very good. I mean, it really is you watch them play. And you just not very good team. I mean, even when the results have been, okay. So for example, it's true that this game is conditioned by the fact, they won the first three nail. So they go through they get beaten, by Guinness. And it feels like it doesn't matter and at the same time, it doesn't really ever feel like like they're going to get knocked out. And so maybe maybe we shouldn't worry about these. But but this is another game. Like this for example in this recent run loose, anti celery. They've only been one team in the top of the table that was a to victory Betty's. And goodness only knows how they ended up winning this. They have a one nil. Win over riot Kano second bottom played dreadfully. They beat west. And we're very fortunate to do. So they would be into new with that. And while there was a huge amount of. Focus and quite rightly actually on on one of the refereeing decisions that went against them. The performance was dreadful Madrid. Just at the moment. Don't look very good tool. They don't have a clear idea. They don't allow the plays a happy. They don't they're playing. Well, and as you say ten points behind Bosnian alita. But of course, we all know the season always gets defined by the Champions League. And somehow in the Champions League. This is a club that manages to kind of to kind of hide from their own pull form and somehow pulling out, but this time they Kenny that should. With the Champions League this year. I mean, this is a team that did it last year was Renaldo. Yeah. Is it team that only did because of Rinaldo as team this Watson there were last year? And they don't have Renaldo those absolutely nothing to suggest this team can go into a close to the final. Who's getting the blame set for all this mess? I mean, it's quite difficult to give you a promise to that. Because in a way because I mean, let's go back to what we were saying go because they're so bad in so many ways what difficult to then kind of points at one individual thing. So of course, we've got the around disco that were of no he should play more. You've got the debate about the physical fitness in particular, those players out along World Cups mortgage hasn't really found his form this year. Of course, you've got Chris out who was a key element in all of this and his departure. You got question marks about the debilitation of the squad. Which is I think has been happening every some for about for years. So now for the first time, you do look at the squad and thing, okay. There are significant weaknesses there. And so all the way through the squad there, lots of people get in the blame. Of course, solorio is the current manager does have some fingers pointing in. But I don't think anyone is saying this is happened. Because Larry maybe they're saying sorry hasn't yet found the solution. But I think anyone's actually blaming him outright for this. Also with east coast said of this, really. Struck the Real Betis game. Everyone is injured pretty much the whole Real Madrid schooled ace go doesn't stall this game. We'll see inside story. What's done to upset? Some these Bagley. Right. Well, salary has started in three games against Malir in the COPA Laurie against LEGO nation a couple of right when won the first three now. And then he takes him off anyway against Moscow champ is the guy that didn't matter which they then lost. Now, there's a feeling this goes back way before Solares arrival the training, particularly well that maybe he's attitude hasn't been that good. He hasn't been as applied as he might be. I think there is genuinely another sounds like a cop out there is partly kind of systemic elements of this, which is that goes natural positions. A number ten doesn't really exist and solorio about to make it for him. I think it's also true. This flowery wants a slightly more physically aggressive team slutty quick team, Iskoe tends to slow the game down. But the suggestions have been there is something else there. This is beyond. Just you know, this is a plow that much fancy putting in the team and certain you see for example, he was taken off yesterday. The two of them don't even look at each other this situation certainly has. Become entrenched, and it's become worse. As a result of that. And I think is more than just football. Now is Laura handling this correctly pool. You can only do so much when you look at the best teams in the world. It's it's all about the three unions. And the the cohesiveness is join together with those unions. And there's absolutely nothing going on. You look at some of the games the burn Abell wherever the play. There is no not togetherness. They're not working for each other. The support is not the the OSA position is just like a shambles. And if this was any of the side of the Real Madrid. We'll be absolutely I know Rendova pas best. We come. But this is on heard of from a Real Madrid side, the wool champions, European champions. Their absolute shambles, all you do is just look at the technical view of this group and his atrocious. What happens next said we now Florencia Peres, quite trigger-happy. Isn't he calls to his manages? But from what years jesting is not actually gonna make much of a. Difference. So is this gonna be pretty much a write off if they obviously wouldn't get no time in the Champions League. And then start again in the summer with a new coach. Up to a point. Yes. I mean bear my they were beaten by that's the tenth time. They've been beaten in thirty games this season a third of their matches. They've lost. That's already more defaced this season than in the whole of lassie's, and we still got a long way to go. So there's a season get written off. Well, no not necessarily because though it's ten points behind Boston on the league titles over yet. The couplet right is not over yet. And of course, the Champions League is not over yet. But you're right to suggest that if an win they reach a point, which they say, okay, look, basically season's done. There isn't really a lot of need to change the manager at that point. There's really no appoint in letting manager burn his fingers on the team between now and then the season. So I think we would see a change in the summer. Although I think one of the things worth pointing out here is it actually quite clear minded about what it is that they want to do structurally. And so if we talk about well in the summer you start again, but you can only start get up to a point because this policy, for example of buying in the best young players from Spanish clubs will continue. That's an economic imperative is as what is pulling one. Yes, there will be signed. In the summer. And this may be some significant ones and Ed and has out of calls is at the top of that list. But this isn't about saying, right, haze, all the money in the world. It's gone blacks ever them because the economic reality of European will shifted for some of what they've done which couldn't appear to be debilitating. This is actually in the sexy, you know, and I was very very close to saying this publicly at the presentation of Brian the other day, this is a new environment now, and this isn't one in which can be guaranteed that they can outbid everybody for the very best players around. Let's talk about the pawn impossible manager. If you come in the some of the bookies of got Josie Marino as favourite said come in. Sevens and four Sinoe eleven to four obviously he's been heavily into the United job as well. And then further afield Yogi love and so on your own say. Yeah. I mean, look when when Bruel teen Judah no particular in the summer, one of the reasons why that didn't go particularly well was because they'll take you wasn't first choice when they brought in Sunday solorio not so long ago. It was polity because they weren't huge amount of our options out there in the some of the situation will have changed in part. Why? Well, one very simple reason, it's not immediately after a free times Champions League winning team. We've won manager and was in the summer. Allegra for example, on that list was one of those people who thought things right now, I literally cannot win even if I win. And so I think that will shift in marina is a curious one. Marina is a curious one in much is here is someone that part of the bold and the president there's a bit of methinks, let's came back. This is the guy there's a clinks this idea of marines clings, this idea that this is the guy that will get them to shape this guy that will make them compete. This is the guy that was so out the dressing room. This is the guy that will be tough the has the personality to do this. And yet at the same time recognize that it problematic to do this recognize that this could go horribly wrong recognized that there's a things yet. This is a great idea. But there's actually you know, what this is a terrible idea. So I I think that there are difficulties with all of these options Cina, for example, someone they try getting the summer, but they encountered a Spurs. Then you leave you in particular, but Spurs at club level institutional level saying this isn't going to happen. We're not gonna let this happen. And there wasn't a buyout clause to make it happen. Nor was put your Tino prepared to go to war to make Adam prevents try and force his way out. So actually think Madrid position which right now, Rome themselves don't know, they they will think very carefully about these. And. Yeah, Marino and put your chino or options. But they're not the only ones, and yet it might not necessarily be a case of them getting their first choice as it hasn't been philosophy of appointments Marino, surely going back to a horrible eggs, go friend all the things that said talk to boot they're all the reasons why the socket United. I mean, let's be onus since since into Milan. Nothing. But trouble is followed this guy your own. Yes. And between these one titles for generally, he's left. Absolute kills suggest of all things. He can go back and address them even think that he can do that after money United half of the boards lost the plot. You've just you're just gonna look at what up most Roussel just United alienated the founds Elliott to the players. You know, when when you go to to Real Madrid an enormous job, and you've got to be able to unite dressing room. It looks like there's maybe one guy can do that Romo says the guy that speaks for everybody and dress for him to come in and do a massive job to rebuild such a huge clip. Can't say it felt Real Madrid was all about open tack in football, right? This should he heats on the team that he had galactic who's into a counterattack in Tim that deep. I mean, come on more league at all to come. Just remind though we're over on the website on some your questions on extra time. Be sure to check it out. Boscell and then safely through to the next round of the corporal rate. And of course, they went into the second leg against the camp. Now to one down he turned it around comfortably in the end veto Avanzi by three goals. Now, we're gonna part when he wouldn't it. Yeah. I mean. Walk in the park. But I mean diminished two goals were said fortunate. I would be stretching. I mean, he's completely messed the false one. The defenders the try clear them bellies leg goes yet. The Sankey one barely message. The bowl to the grown gooky was already lying down on the grown of an asleep and a head showman goes in. I mean. Other than Bacelona damn Bailey, kid, joy and self right now. Because no matter what he does. Everything's going. Forward is gone from being slaughtered to it. Can't do inven- wrong to he enjoy. Because at the moment. It's just cheese goes goes underneath. It was a walk in the park when you factor in a player called leeann L Messier's go no pressure on him in the middle of you've got to out decide this plan, a high line and run going in for phone is embarrassing this open that mono- against Barcelona continue and dim bellies. It's just madness. And you know, the game we thought the game will be very quickly. It's an to be so, but when you defend a lot about against quality plays. Ulysses say is of course, silly season at the moment regards transfers, and I didn't even think we'd be talking about this one. But there is an element of truth. Maybe to the boss alone are keep an eye on. Valor. Of course at the moment is in MLS. Yep. Yep. Bustle bustling trying to find a strike an a particular type of striking trying to find a strike who they believe has the talent to fit into the ball loan team. But who isn't a counterstrike who would necessarily demand to play every game? They know that this is a strike has to accept that. He may will only be there until then the season has to accept that. He's there to try and give rest to loose war to try and rotate through the Ford line. And so you you have difficulty persuading some players of taking that role. They've looked a whole number strikers over over the last week or so there's been a lot of talk to anybody would cost fifty million euros album or after someone who's being offered to them. And they haven't necessarily turned it down. I think he'll probably end up Athletico Madrid. And so they're trying to look at the menu tentatives and this appease while it appears complete left field, and you're on the face of it, very very bizarre. Indeed, this is one that they think could function as a short term solution to short term problem is working. What? Now, Bob Bradley will build his Timur on this guy. You'll be absolutely pulling this era. I think it's gotten your hand. Anyway. Is best for you want to make calm you want to run the building you want to build. A I understand from from boss, aloneness points of view. This for me. I'm so what should said there? He takes every single boat. Right. I mean that was that was the criticism has been labeled on most of the time that you it wasn't a guy that toned up and produced Messier didn't produce his best. Every we stepped on the field is a guy who should flashes of genius. And who was quite Hoppy, again, just to take a back seat. I mean, he he every Bill and the gays go talent, it's always been these who's been going on between these is that we've questioned so if what said says is right. And and that's all the things you look in for then maybe those take all the boat. Meanwhile, said talk about could senior in his future. I it seems strange. This. This story keeps coming up again. Well, keeps coming up again. The risk of being overly cynical and overly dismissive. It keeps coming up again because it's quite fun. And it keeps people entertained playing that well and because always the most expensive player ever. Well, he's going to go in the other. There isn't any plan to force Chritina out. There isn't any plan for senior not to play a boss are in the short medium and indeed long-term now oversee look if you have a market scenario in which someone comes moving absolutely enormous big given the financial pressures that boss on our current under would they contemplate nicest, they probably would. But I don't think there's an active attempt to force continue out. Now, there is a systemic element here, which is that you you have a Volvo these been trying to find a way of being attacking and creative. But not running race not being overrun in the middle of midfield on one of the ways of doing that was to have who Tino as someone in the front very, but we've time he's found a way of getting the best out of them Belay. So of course, then Bella goes into front free. But if you put Coutinho midfield, you lose some of that solidity some of that organization which. Over the is so fun too. So it's quite difficult actually in truth to find a place in the team for them. But I in continue to place you bought away at them together as three hundred year sorry for hundred million years worth of Playa there. So of course, that provokes debate. But to be honest with by is exaggerated. Well, judge right price tag walls in the first place. Quickly said reports in the UK Malcolm could be going to Spurs on loan any chance of this happening. Yep. Boscell owner would like him to play more. They don't think he's going to play as much as they would like him to play at Barcelona. And if they can find a solution which he plays for the rest of the season, but they don't actually lose him. It's a solution. They would be relatively keen on. Yeah. Look at league fixtures this week. And no question. The big one is, of course, reality trade against us. Via all eyes on the game. At the yoga burn about Barscelona. Meanwhile, they're at home against leonice. Reports continues to suggest that Gonzala week wine is on his way on loan to Chelsea set. Of course, you know, him well from his time at Real Madrid. And what was interesting this time. They're a little bit like Argentina is polarizing figures some people liked him. But other people really didn't. Yeah. Absolutely. And of course, he he was of that kind of debate between him and carrying Benz remember Josie Marino famously saying that if you can't hunt with a dog hunt with a cats that point. Of course, he was suggesting the Igwe was the dog and was face and was the guy that was goal goals and Ben's Emma was kind of pussycat couldn't really make the difference on the page. But it's true that we've time people gave up on him party. Call speakers of key key, defeats and key MRIs and key moments. Remember him going round the goalkeeper and hitting the post against Olympic Leon. I think it was in the Champions League. And there were few people. I think we're ready to in the towel on wine probably earlier than he perhaps deserve. It didn't always help that once in a one he would publicly say so publicly point out how unhappy walls, and he seemed to be trying to get out of remedied Nicole's. Once you go than any doubts that rounded have funds funds have against you completely go out the window. Do you have any doubts if he goes to Chelsea? Thing is about to need with Chelsea what what what do the some to keep him planner the middle third somebody to as a so the comp- the ball into the box. They haven't been able to do that. You know, you see house up through the middle. So more with patron William I do feel that with a player of iguanas quality. I think that they put the ball in the bucket. They're going to create Chelsea always great chances Chelsea on the surface. It seems as though fit the Bill perfectly. So I'm looking for this plane the team. Find out how to believe he's not going to school goals. Right. But then of course, those shift chang-chol those toll raise Murata who not only myself, but pretty much everybody else said they were school goals. So unless he gets cost by whatever Chelsea hostage school goals. The guys as goals goal of poverty. Stairway suggesting said that's obviously Murata Athletico Madrid. Yeah. Let's have difficulties in making this happen because they have rights up against the limits of financial fair play and the the salary caps that leaguer imposes on all of its clubs now. So for this to happen. They would have to find a way a mechanism now, obviously, one likely mechanism is is becomes a loan deal where there isn't any payment made until the some of even that's difficult because you still go play his wages, and his wages are absolutely enormous. And as I say, let's go literally right on the limit. So it really is not just of not being able to pay for Trump. They can't pay the salaries, and so there's a very strong suggestion outlets. Cover will look to move plays on now either we see Gilson mountains perhaps be forced to move on. Or maybe cut an inch which is a possibility as well. Let's come with very much like these to happen album Ratto would very much like these to happen. But he's not there yet. But they believe that confident will happen. We'll see, but they all come that. They will find a way of making this deal happen city. You surprised how much he struggled at Chelsea? I mean album, or after is a very curious carriage, and if you ever speak to me, very introverted he's very conscious of his weaknesses. He's very conscious of the things that he does badly. I think he's emotionally maybe a little bit. Fred jot. I think is very very difficult to properly analyze because of course, we're talking about genuine league elements of concern. I think and he said an interview I think it was back in November. There have been times when he hasn't been depressed as such but these had worrying moments they had to seek psychological council at times. And so when you look at you always feel we've we've him that he's a player looking for the right club hops in part because it feels sometimes like he's applies to looking for himself. Now looking for that right fit looking for an environment in which he feels fully happy on an environment in which he feels he can completely compete. I find him very very interesting character. I find him a very self aware carrots. And yeah. There's a say the same time a slot vulnerable one. So I suppose even before you start getting into the footling questions those kind of those kind of women's to his personality have to be taken into account reminder. If you have a miss a show, you can download on daily podcast, which is available on the website. All boys. I wanted to you about the old PowerPoint presentation from bales? The survey, of course, this Meese spying allegations that he admitting spun everything that we play do this work as well. Detail when you were at the Rams, you you should you shit. Please don't for more than five minutes, and they'll be sleeping or looking at a sealant or dream or doing something else. Other than what the supposed to be doing and listening to you. What do you make the whole the spy gates in? Are you have a problem with it must have been? It's in British coach actually on all the countries. Don't have that much of an issue about it. But I think is an on north on law. Is you just you just don't do that? But there are so many stories of the past of manages doing that in England as one as everywhere else. The international football Sanish in England will Josie marina, for example, allegedly allegedly now. That's the only other one. I've had you said so many there's so many it's all it doesn't happen. I'm telling you and actually the US disable cushioning MLS. It was exactly the same. There was no skulduggery going on a bit. Like the UK's five is concerned. But without of the police the thing used to used to send you go send you to three reports, so the gover-, and then you as a staff would oversee what's the traits of the side on video. So that so you did you you didn't you didn't know to me it's cheating. I don't like it at all sorts so giving Leach deducted points. I'm not sure this should be doing boys. Something should be done about the manager. The manager is going to be heavily diving cheesy. Why is it what isn't diving cheating? But can you can you tell me what it's written down low to do that? It's not written the law. Would you? Can you hear? It was breaking any real grounded. And you've got somebody from legitimate your Liverpool. Are you happy about it? Nothing rubbish. It's got nothing to do with everything you do. Done something. Yes. Can you please? Listen. No. You're talking about finding suspending ticket points away for something. That's not legal. It's not against any law written down anywhere by any EFI of so one. Are you going to do it? If if you go with what you're saying that some there's going to be done about it on the wise. This is going to be widespread, and you're gonna have no issue with it. Trees training training, go. No, no. Both ways you've got some in in writing to sell it. We don't want. None of this going on. Now, if somebody like it if somebody does that then I will hundred percent agree with absolutely kill is done. So as you're gonna wear with them, she'll lily, double standards, if you wanna game one because you play a dived and you get the penalty and it schooled in done. We've set a million times on the show. We hate diving find the place for diving it'll start coach as a coach of the res- name unless cop because of a penalty that's given. Because dive you still win the cop. You don't give it back go on some moral crusade. Now, there is actually a rule in place the referee thinks dive the gives him a yellow card. So now we're talking about referee. No being making the decision cheating. This is what it's coming down to this. The diving is cheating as is fine on Colonel Dinesh, Dinesh cheetan because there's a low against it sitting in a tree and public area. Watching people train is not a legal. And so there's nothing wrong with it. Right. And it's no, gene. But it is it is cheeser. It goes against the old gentlemen's agreement. Spokesman lying. The whole ethos which I tend to agree. I wouldn't do. Right. But you can't suspend or fine or dot points or anything on something, so socially alone. So the football league is going to step in and they've got some making very clear, and this is not the the stuff that we won't go. So Cyril suspended perspective on all of this. Well, the perspective on it radiates to look back at bell shirt and talk about this as being another episode in someone who who is very different to other people. And I think he's quite interesting. You see the his response not just the other day with the PowerPoint presentation books a couple of days before when he was asked about this. He said, yes, I did it that was it did direct and honest, and there was a recognized a cool. There's a contradiction. Hey, when you've got someone who's done something that he sees to be wrong. But then he's only direct about saying. I made the mistake. I got this wrong for me is not legal for me. It's not immoral. It's enough for me to to know that Franklin doesn't like it. And therefore, I'm sorry and to give you an example of how this fits in with the way that bales so behaves Athletic Bilbao. There was bills wanted to hold number of changes mates Lytham to the club's training ground. They were series of demands that he made about how he wanna think sets up some of which some people that club fort were absolutely ridiculous. And there was a confrontation with the with the heads with the head. Basically in charge of this project, and there's a confrontation between Balestre and him and bellsa basically, it turned a little bit nasty this builder decided not to go and report bills to the police be Elsa felt this was fair on the build up that he felt that the Bill should have had the right to report him for acting badly because he felt he had acted badly. And he felt that because he was the manager. Let's Bilbao the builder has failed under some pressure to not saying thing. So be also went himself. I'm reported himself to the police as a way of saying sorry. And so you get kind of environment, which you've got someone who's very very well aware of his flaws, very very prepared to confront them say I was wrong. I'm sorry. I thought was very interesting. Not least because he came to the conclusion bills that she spying on Dhabi county, in these cases training sessions all Chinese may not necessarily be of any value. But that he can't quite bring himself to not do absolutely everything and his pallor to try him win because he feels his I'm. Sessional and yet he also sees kind of moral grayer. He's a I think he's a unique character. And I think in some ways he's come out of this really quite well, even though that sounds a little bit of a contradiction. Poor hates him. Anyway. Trays front lump out Dhabi. The sleaze they count see from scouting reports. And watching them play in the championship right seriously. Then not that. Good apply. Come pull all of a sudden play the right back left inside of field. This won't trace. You're going to find out from watching training, it probably bored. Stiff up to ten minutes perfectly. Frank talk about shockers power rankings is not hair. He's in California destroying the as. And all it's glory eventers in number one. Of course, winning the Italian SuperCup Vosper to livable three city on the rise Dortmund. Difficulty. Chime tool. A really? Rights because. Fullest inaugural for the sake of it. Could you see that bombed me just be slightly hidden form Borussia rate now is up Borussia drop down so many places. Probably I mean, this is probably wanna shock is best. So do we have proof that he did it probably not? He might go. One of these kids to end the show showy by checking out less the city's training ground, and what happened earlier today you go why this is very random. What is that all of its Jamie Vanni just up? The spine surprise surprise is Jim. Quite sure why. So what's the point? That's why I mean, I'm not quite sure why. But it don't been lake we big cloak and an folks missed I should be of and the big eyeglass. But. And being a spine. I like a clues impasse initiative instead of them all. No one of his best it enjoy. That's very much boys. Chad says said we tomorrow and till then to goodbye. Extra time. No doubt the line of the day came from pool. Mariner today when talking about calls Valerie Voss along we'll be pulling his air out. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Hudson me. It's not my position to robots. You kind of his deal. With us say that we sit in the end of league dominance, neither Madrid oboe Celona seem to have a future planning Simione might be on the move next season. Well. Mean on the face of? We think I think there is something to be said for suggesting that the power balance shifted, and we talked, but we talked about this a bit last year. You know, the financial muscle of the Premier League is absolutely gigantic. I'm ready is bigger than spine even bigger the Madrid boss Alana and yet in the end as the season ended you still had to Spanish teams in the two European game. Which is happened. I was it. The lost ten European will be won by Spanish teams. And so every time we think they see. So turns out not to be the case. So maybe that's hold and also question again for four months time. He knighted didn't they win the league at some stage. All right. Okay. Europe league. Well, I think citizen. This atrocious. Andy Robinson, the next eve nickel at Liverpool. Steve nicol. What do you think? Fully talking about this today. I mean assigning lots I mean. I mean. Is he Steve Nicolescu? No, no, no. There's only one everybody knows this young man alongside will agree with this young, man. What do you think? I don't see this perfect. Illness and the risk of guys complete opposite directions away. You won't ever is that the guy the complete opposite direction the way that we supposed to go an extra time where we're supposed to wind each other up. He's got long way to go to Stevie. Felt months. It's always you on you always said, you know, we have. Colesville this program. Hear what you're saying. Oh, we can play in the ninety complaining that sad. No. There's not many people can play in multiple position. The thing about Steph is equal play out all over the shop. Should be full say, what would be the best place east coast. End up shopping him. It seems unlikely it doesn't completely out the cards. Well, I think go needs to think very carefully about where he goes next. I think he needs to think carefully about it in in foot- willing terms as much anything else. One of the things. There are many things that are wrong with this go situation at Roma drid, but one of his position doesn't exist late. I plan a formation where he's allowed to be that number ten behind the forwards very close to doing the things that east go does. Well, he is set himself before I think it was said if Angeletti Benitez and lost Zinzan have picked me. I'm not stupid. There must be something wrong. They must be something on doing wrong. So I think any decision he makes he has to think very carefully about how well he fits in. And if that means maybe taking a club. That's not quite the very very high level, or at least maybe not taking the clubs on the face of ego. Yeah. That's the club of me. I think he has to think very dot he's role within the team over the style, suits. And that's the key thing for me. Now the question for you said. With route sin sin yet, he would pronounce his surname taking charge of trances. Also sunday. Yeah. That's what I need to censor by which league defenders could you see coming in during the summer. We'll look first of all it's not necessarily a direct correlation. Isn't it the he takes over in fall league defenders, turn up bear in mind that you take over, and that's a sporting director. At least there were markets that you're interested in, but it's not necessarily the markets. You're working in before is not necessarily the markets direct correlation. Buffs. Okay. Which defend is what you take from Spain. I suppose what you do is you you would look at the fenders. If you're looking from appropriately quantum view have technical busy. And a particularly quick I think that might be might be part of it. I think you may. Well, look at defendants perhaps to have the opportunities that they might have happened. You think would be very good place, for example, like city did with Donilon. Maybe you look at someone like Cemento up. Also, maybe you look at someone like. Maybe you go look at people like maybe you go look at people like, Johnny. Maybe you go look at plas who can who can come up and down the wing for you. That's that's a possibility. But I didn't think to build this that you look at it. Now and say there are really obvious candidate straight out straight off the tall. Not just making up names of the end. Defend stevie. He's favorite meal, but is not cooked violin. Chris. Exactly. That's why awesome. Not only. I'll tell you the thing about Stephen is fantastic. Chef is on right. You know, we see this sausage. Opinions last week. Difficult. It's not one of these gyms OPA must apply. Could live again you. Ps. Well, Stephen is going to tell you. Would you? Did you put them on the Griddle something? I mean, did you fry them doing with these things? Right. I was playing Molly. What's a check them. All. Taken them off decided just to give them the right? Then I go and scoldings played Mario count. And then. Fifteen minutes later, I'm in the middle again, and I could smell shorten Finley. Remember? Yeah. Wheel left a piece on the. I'm finding this one support you actually by the patriots are underdogs against the chiefs schools notes. Nothing. So by the way, Stevie Z, Stephen. Chiefs of number one, see home. Because team you don't against any situation. It would be would be the patriots. I mean going into a tough place, and Kansas are very very good. The patriots. We'll be out the best the best. They can do it. This is very similar to the analysts to half hundred and the Super Bowl with John Barnes. Two thousand. What are they find that clip was at the pump? This plan. Jones intervene interviewed me. The first half of the game. By the way, I had eight in me as well. Please someone fine this clip. What was it for channel four channel four four in England. Yeah. And after was thought would you get ruled till well. Well, you. We with that's done ESPN FC pack tomorrow in Craig's it stealing looking into awesome. Chelsea. Yes. Yes. Ooh wee. Hasn't it? Wasn't it isn't it?

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It is it absolutely is now like we're just going to be kind of resigned to many Marlon Brando impressions, and like you're really gonna play the role. I know you knew come to me. There we go you come to me looking for favor. You asked me to do more in number take my hand in friendship. Forever. This is like eventually you'll just morph into him if you'll just start like e- eating too much. You're putting like gauze in your cheeks to try to simulate. Yeah. I know how you operate gently tapping you on on the on the on the cheek of your face to to to show affection. Yeah. All those things. Oh, what a show we have coming up for you. Of course, we're going to take a look back at the the Champions League. And we'll look ahead to a pretty big weekend slate of matches obviously it's decision day in MLS. It's also a classical coming up in Spain and a very big one in the Premier League with Tottenham and Manchester City, and of course, Bruce Dorfman would their big win yesterday against Athletico Madrid and Christian pulisic returning to action Stefan butts co who's been on the program before he'll join us to talk about that game. I just found out. He's he has ties to Philadelphia to. Yeah. Which is very cool. We're going to be talking about the yellow wall as opposed to. Yeah. I know I saw Christian pulisic commented on how incredible the crowd was for them yesterday and that helped to carry them through. So I guess you really look there is a reason that teams perform better at home than on the road. And like, I think sometimes the fans downplay what their actual importance is in a game. But I really I I actually do think in soccer it can help really carry a team when the fans are truly behind them. And that is oftentimes the case there. I would say there's a few venues in the Premier League who claimed to have these amazing atmospheres could well take a look at the violence daddy. And and maybe rethink that. Because they are they it's trite, but they're the twelfth man. Let's see let's go through this chronologically. We're not going to go through every single game. So if we don't get to your team, I apologize in advance. But that's what the mail bag is for male send a question or comment, and we'll deal with it there. Maybe maybe maybe. I mean, look there's some teams that I I don't know how much we're gonna talk about. That's just this -ality. What if we have ten thousand listeners that are from young boys Berne, you're not going to talk about young boys Berne, if I mean, if they give us, well, you know, what I take that all back because by popular demand, we instituted the wheel of of crap teams. So maybe we should have a Champions League version. But can you be a crap team and being the Champions League? You offers Zing. Oh, it's going to be feisty. I can't believe he just said that I didn't mean that let's start with Tuesday. We'll start with Manchester United and event is one of the weed one nil it goes to you've ace stop us when you've heard this before it was a lifeless performance from Josie Marino's team. It was stupefying and the narrative that has emerged afterwards from journalists commentators Bleacher report studio guests on Marino himself, and he's gonna wanna push it. Is that this was like some kind of barnstorming second half where United pushed and pushed and just off. They just couldn't unlock that brilliant event is site. But that's offer tripe. I mean, a from Paul we shot off the post that hit voice check Chesney in the back of the head and really coulda gone in a did they really care of you vent, his whole did they really trouble them. No, no. But that's the narrative Merino spinning. Yeah. Maybe it is. I don't know. I kind of thought his narrative was more along the lines of that. You've just really good. No what he said to. What was interesting what he said to to be t was that all you wanna talk about the attacks. But let me talk about something else, which was the defending. And what was that? What we have for Marino. I think he talked about Manchester United's performance, we listen to this. Okay. Well, this unless you have something different. I don't know. How dare you contradict me? This is what you sent me. All right play it, then just we need vent to sense quality. But what did you make it a performance tonight alva- phones? The possible performance. And when I say the possible I'd say that. India the sides was huge quality and sometimes people in as we speak about quality. Sometimes people looks for. Chris journal develop via niche, but in the top team, you'll have to look to kill any to Bonnici. And I think Juventus is this kind of thing that when they are in front is very very difficult to consider. Yeah, he's saying said that they're they're really good. But that's spin Andrew that is absolute spin has been achie- archea Leany had an easier night in how the had a harder night against Genoa at the weekend. This is just. Bollocks it's nonsense. It's also not spend by not talking up. But by by talking up, Kia Leany, I'm by talking up a boon. Chee what you're saying, basically is that all we had them on the rack, but we just couldn't get through nonsense. You never troubled though. I actually read into it even deeper old Goodlatte. Okay. The two players had he pointed out JJ what positions do they play centrebacks? He's been obsessed with this position because he feels that he was not properly funded in that way. And he's trying to reinforce to the board Rinaldo, piano. That's all fine and some third by the hint win without players at that position Leaney's and Banou cheese. Now, there's obviously some truth to it. The reason we've said this thousand times the reason that our sympathy falls a little bit short is because Marino also handpicked the guys who are currently playing in those positions, not all of them. But a lot, you know, small well, he didn't pick smell. And by right. So that's where the sipi falls a little bit short. But it is to me. It is not a coincidence. That Marini Marino Reno singled out, those two guys remember Tonio Donahue who was destroyed by Martin O'Neill the Irish reporter. Yeah. Yeah. So last night he spoke to Marino. You know, what he said? No, he was throwing softball questions to Marino 'cause against journalists. Don't get much time with them and they're afraid to annoy him he was right on the money with you. He said he he spoke about Banou cheeky Leney. And Antonio donor goes wouldn't you love to have them? Yes. Oh, yeah. You're so right. But it just goes to show he wants he wants winners. He wants guys in their twenty between twenty eight and thirty five and it's it's a short win mentality. And he just. I don't have a ton more to say about their own two shots on target ninety minutes. Six in total. The only other question that I have about the United and this could wind up being becoming a podcast unto itself. Yeah. But you see their league form you see that the Champions League has is not going the way necessarily that. They would hope that he would have gone, and you hear Marino's rhetoric, and you just can't help. But start to wonder is it that they're in poor form. Or is it that they're actually just maybe not that good? I think it might be a bit of both. If you look at where like Lindelof. Look look at their back for just for one second marina, but Luke is being given an extended contract, but he has hardly established himself as a mainstay in the United team apart from this season and bits of last season on what I say when I say about established. I mean, he's constantly under the microscope from the manager. And indeed the manager bring the ire of the fans on him. He's had a tough time. Is he top quality? I don't know actually young converts at fullback and Lindelof just hasn't settled at United madij was poisoned the other night hundred. He couldn't get anything. Going rash? Word to me is played out of position white on the right? It doesn't work matter is getting into the, you know, the the extended years of his career Antony Marcial, I think is is an excellent footballer underused and Lukac who is isolated not only is the isolated. He's out of form. Put put put put it all together. Yeah. I just wonder when I look at them, you know, it's Manchester United, but who are the players on that club that are like locked down. I eleven on the other really good clubs in England. That's a great question. I mean, I I would sat doesn't get into Chelsea right now with the way that Chelsea midfielder's right now pug, but doesn't get into it. Because he doesn't move the ball like Jorgihno does. So he also doesn't like that's another thing as well pug, though, I can't watch pod by toil for United anymore. It doesn't like I know there's loads guys with the stats who give you all his progressive passes the runs he mexic- cetera. And that's fine. But the other night he wasn't doing anything. He was if anything he was delaying the movement of the ball and also a couple of times to his in his to his credit and in fairness to him pug was on the ball Andrew and he'd look up the field. And there was no movement Patty because Lukaku was isolated Patty. Because rash furred is not a a wide player. Even in the three. It's just all it's a mess. I don't believe there's a plan. I could tell you. There's a plan to the way you vent went the way they ping the ball around in that first half in particular. You could see there was. Was in training patterns of player being done on a way and a style and a defined roles for each player. And there isn't that United? It doesn't feel that way right now. Let's see we move on another game on Tuesday that stood out a little bit Real Madrid surviving, Victoria, pills and to one surviving is the word. Yeah. It was. It was not a convincing performance in a time. When Julian Lopa potato desperately needs one. He didn't look thrilled. Really at any point during the match didn't really celebrate. When they scored their goal. Defines weren't exactly they weren't a few sive in their praise of the team either. There was a lot of whistles that full-time. Halftime bought they one which is just like crucial for just extending his life at the club a little bit longer, but pills and should have two goals themselves. Yeah. And it does feel like there's just kind of this air. I guess it makes sense to talk about Real Madrid. After we talk about Manchester United because in both places it feels like just this air of inevitability. It's like you're winning for for to happen. Your. Waiting for the piano to fall from the sky. But you know, it's common and I wonder Andrew if if they get say they get. Say it's a two-nil defeat, which is probably without messy within the realm of possibility. Are this war's goes off this weekend? You're talk in in in in the classical. I think that's it for him. It's got to be I know, which is unfortunate that game is coming along. At the absolute worst time on my going. You aside from the fact that Lio Messi, just broke his arm. It's just so like it's in Barcelona. It's coming off a midweek Champions League match like it, just I don't know. It just feels like this is a time when he needs like a few lower table teams to kind of research that will you say that. But if I told you they're playing west got the weekend, would you would you be confident that beat them you would more than more than if it was at Barcelona, and the resulting needs is the same look at the results being Gitten, though, Danis teams like that. It's I mean, maybe a draw I guess as long as Real Madrid looked good a draw would be enough a one one draw would be he'd take it right now. I'm sure yeah. I'm guessing that he would boy, it's amazing. Like, I was thinking about him low potato the other day and just like life is weird the way things happen late. You know, he's he's Spain's manager. You know like he's heading into a World Cup. And he's managing a national team that has a chance to maybe go on and win the thing. And then he gets contacted by rail Madrid. And now he's kind of between two minds, and this leaks out. And now he's fired by Spain on the eve of a World Cup. But he's got Real Madrid's job. But now here we are like two months in a season. And he's probably losing the arou- the Real Madrid job. Like, this guy's life has reached a peak and now potentially valley within the span of two months. It's like when big Sam got the England job. It's incredibly thing. He has changed everything he had ever wanted. And it's like he's had the two top jobs in football. Okay. Are you with me? United job lived, whatever I'm saying that Real Madrid Spain at the two top jobs in football. And he could potentially have lost them before thanksgiving. Wow. It's all fleeting everyone out there. Lonely. Take a hold of what you love dearly and just keep keep tight griss grab on it realize whatever you're doing. It's all. Transient, and if it's football management, it's it's even more. So to really transient we moved from Tuesday to Wednesday, and we start with Tottenham. Couldn't do it to you this week. I had so many songs lined up to do like Assad. Montage. It's pointless. Yeah. Their European nightmare continued yesterday, and I feel about it and it took multiple forms, obviously. In the end. It took the form of a draw in a match that they needed to win. But it also took the form of a I don't know people who are who are anti Spurs can fight me on it. But I will take to the death with me that that goal should have been allowed or not just for sure I don't get it. You can spend it any way you want. Cain is not inter-. Let's get out of the way. Cain is not interfering in the play. And there's no reason for the linesmen to raises flag. The only thing I can say is that his perception. Like, we have the stand angles. So we can see above his perception was that maybe Cain was closer to the player. But he's he's not he's not. And but like there's an extra ref in the Champions League issues like this. I don't know what his function as serious. Can we? I didn't want to take this down of our road. But like these see things like this happen. And how can you not like how can you just sit here and say like now, it's not necessary. But even more so necessary, but even more than that you're talking about like just just moments of of of calamity and misfortune. Okay. So the referee getting that wrong Spurs can do nothing about that. Yeah. Oliver ails mistake on the first goal when spars aren't really Spurs look and control their possessing the ball, it's a it's a basic ball back to him. It's one he deals with nine times out of ten and he just missed steps. An and and then to compound it further I would much prefer if I'm in that position that Chucky Lozano, Ron straighten and scores. What makes it worse is that out of red did so well to track back brilliant block till whip it up I'm weird and Laura's just taken two steps, and it's not his fault. Either an loops into the net. Oh, yeah. Like, you're right out of her all got back recovered any made what? In any other circumstance would have been a tremendous defensive play. Yeah. We we'd be talking about that today. Well, at least you recovered. Vendor? It helps us go into the name kit just lose normal. No. I was thinking about you, you you described this as a nightmare. We were texting yesterday during it, and I was shouting for Spurs because I felt that was a layer of injustice. I, you know, I don't wanna see you sad. But it was it was interesting at the end. And I was like will I text this to Andrew at fulltime? You that game is a nightmare for you in the sporting sense. All it needed to become a full nightmare for you was for a massive Florida gator to wander onto the field and eat Christian Erickson, that's all. That's all. Well, that's your biggest nightmare. Well. Yeah. I have I have literal. Nightmares? You out. Allie recurring nightmares about Gators. Right. That's all it would've taken the. So what were you going to text me? I was gonna say, oh, all we need is a big alligator no would have been a true full on nightmare. The one thing that I wanted to spell about this. Because look I in my mind, they're out. I know that it's it's still mathematical that they find a way through they probably have to win out which includes winning in Barcelona, which is going to be incredibly difficult, but it could happen. But to me like that was that they needed to take six points from PSV, and they haven't done that. But one thing that I started to hear a little bit is this idea of Paci no up here. It's going to be another another early crash out in the Champions League. You know, he hasn't won a trophy at what exactly when is he on a hot seat? Never. He's never. He's not on a hot seat ever for what he has done at this club for the way, he has built this club to become to be in a position where we could look at a to draw NPS V or a late loss against Inter Milan. Or going back to last year a late collapse against UVA all of these in elite European competition. He has gotten them to the point where that can be viewed as a disappointment. Okay. That was like never even on the radar for this club. So for the people out there who are saying that by the way, like they've got more points than they've ever had at this stage in the Premier League. And they've done it while in the beginning of the season. Harry Caine was in poor form. And for almost the entirety of the season. Deli alley and Christian Erickson have been hurt right Eriksson. Only just coming back alley still injured and how what now yon for tongue in Zell till December. So everyb- anybody who that's even like a kernel of thought in their head get it out. It's ridiculous. He. Has he's. Yeah. He makes mistakes every once in a while he's a human being every manager that we come across in in any league in the world makes mistakes. But for what he's done for this club. I just like that thought to me is insanity. Let me let me tell you the the real worry for me is how wonderful was Erickson coming back in after being over a month. He was magnificent yesterday. And I think he's the one player Spurs cannot function without he's irreplaceable to them. And he's the one that might get on-scene might look at his age might look at his career and think I need to go. I need to get a trophy. I wouldn't be worrying about potch. I'd be worrying about Erickson. But that is a compromise. My belief in Pasha's that like you're right Erickson, I don't wanna say that these guys on Tottenham don't matter that they'll just find a new Ericsson. That's that is really that's naive. And that's just not true. Yeah. But I believe that their success begins with potch it doesn't necessarily begin with the players. Okay. Okay. But at any rate, that's that is what it is the other match from that group. It was a messy less Barscelona beat. Inter to now take control of the group. Yeah. So I watched this. It was the the game on TNT. So I decided let's make life easy for myself. And rather than go in the endless search to try and find out where the other game is. It was boring. It wasn't grid it because inter tried to contain and even without Messi Barcelona's. There's just wonderful at times on Suarez school a pass to refine ah was the moment of the game for me. It's just such a beautiful ball. And I would spit disappointed. Intellectually a taught where people are trying to find out over the open and moans about who they are. They are one a mystery like they're writing fairly high in Syria. But like they didn't stack the season great that a couple of reverses, and I started making Spurs in not to open old wounds. But they were I thought Spurs were a better team than them on just trying to discover what inter-arab but I didn't see it yesterday. And I guess. Caution in the new camp should is to be expected. But thought it's a little bit more from Barcelona. Yes, it looks as if I don't know it's gonna take some turnaround offer Spurs to get back into that grow. Yeah. Definitely I think Barcelona are are kind of now planting their flag in this competition as the team to beat that's sort of where I'm at. Now, we're halfway through the group stage. I fucked you are looking at things like that. And you know, it was a difficult group. They've they've gone through the first three games on skate even without Messi against arguably the second best team in that group. So that's kind of where I'm where I'm at with them PS g eking out a to draw with Napoli, thanks to a ninety third minute equaliser from unhealthy Maria so PSG celebrating at the end to get the draw. But I don't know the this is not been a tournament to celebrate overall for them so far. No. And I think what we've seen already. Has happened. Again. They've met a good team. I I'm loath to disparage a league that I don't watch enough to have wildly, you know, critical views of bought, you know, they seem to be taking away fine in league on it's clearly not the highest standard. And when they come up against robust opposition like Liverpool and Napoli they struggle. And I think Napoli Carolina not he's going to be very upset that they didn't take all three points from that game. It it's the same thing. Again. It's a front three that as talented as they are don't always link that well together because there seems to be almost competition for space and competition for strikes on gold. We saw a one point where Kevin kick neymar as they both collided for a cutback. It was an interesting vignette from the game. It's not it wasn't the only time they got in each other's way. Either they got in each other's way. It was neymar and Cavani. Then I think on a m in Bobby on another. Chance. So look Napoli. Our what we thought they are. They are a roster of extremely talented individuals, including Anghel de Maria whose goal was just beautiful to equalize it. And and to Tillis still struggling to put a framework on this. And I think as long as you have named Mary and the team you're not going to be able to. It's all got to come through him. Yeah. I it's it's just interesting. You mentioned the league on thing. And like, you know, they've played ten games. They've won ten games. They're averaging almost four goals per game. Which is just destroying the opposition. Really has that league. The way we talk about it. It's like if you if you took Real Madrid and drop them in MLS like that's how we talk about PS g in league has it always been that way. But there wasn't a team like PS g swim quite notice that Leone Marseille like there have been there have been clubs in that league that we did view, Monaco. But the, but the money has the money has changed everything just like Manchester City, Andrew the. The owners the Middle East ownership has tilted things completely. No there is no since two thousand twelve since they bought the cub. There is no competition. They've eviscerated. It is a money issue. At the France does not have the robust club game that could withstand it. It doesn't have like for years Leon when they had a common through with Ben Arifin Ben Zimmer Michael Essien before he went to Chelsea. But even notice they didn't have the financials to hold onto those players like every year, the amazing thing about Liam was. Hey Leon earned the champion's league quarterfinals again Howard imagining because they sold X Y in the summer. So that just goes to show you the financials weren't there. Amongst those other teams Marseille have been bought as we know by the owner of the dodgers, and they're trying to kind of Rian reinvigorate themselves. But they're not there yet the money has skewed things in France, hugely through three games of the champions PSG right now, our third as Liverpool set top of the group with the two wins and a draw and then Napoli behind them a monopoly for MIR right now just on Champions League play. I'm not. Talking about generally are the best team in that group. I again in senior I heard a room over the international break that Liverpool are interested in them. Go get him. He's just wonderful fantastic player on Meritens again. Dave they play with a real plan on a real purpose. I really liked the ad felt a little bit unfortunate in some ways that they didn't go on and actually win that game because it did feel like they were deserving of it with PS G, though. It's like I said we're halfway through the group stage. And they right now are in third. It will be truly fascinating to see what happens if they don't make it out of their group. I know it's not the easiest group in the world. You know, you look at it in a vacuum and say, okay, we'll never pull a really good Napoli. A really good. It's not crazy to not advance from that group. But like you always say on this podcast for PS g it it's all about this tournament. They they've you that they should be beating anybody that they play with the money they've invested. So if they can't even get out of their group. I don't know where they go from here. Do they just like tear it all down sell neymar, you know, Selim baba? I I really don't know. I they won't do that. They'll try not to there's too much invested in. So you keep buying on top of this. I think that's the only way they'll operate. They'll try and get walked away round financial fair play which seems to be fairly easy to get past. Almost like Athletico's defense last night. You see what they did there? Oh, that it was a professional transition to Borussia Dortmund dismantling Athletico Madrid four nil a result that you just doesn't happen to semi Onis athleti. Yeah. It truly it doesn't a team known for their defending, and this is not to downplay Borussia Dortmund in any way, shape or form. They're having a great season in the league. They've been great in the Champions League. They're they're really good. We both think highly of them, but it's not about that. It's no one does this to Atletico Madrid. No. And it was one goal in particular. I think it was Sancho school. I mean, the defending in the lead up to it was schoolyard stuff Simione has always struck me like as a mafia style figure, and he all you could almost call them the dawn of defense and to see his tain take into the woodshop like that reminded me of the scene from godfather where Sony escapes the compound are leave. He didn't escape it. He leaves the compound, I'm bars side men. Get him and kill him at the top at the toll booth right causeway. And I just imagined Simione cradling Antoine agreement after the game and saying this. You're just so deeply entrenched into this. Godfather metaphor for you that this is it now, this is just all fell Simoni was there, Luke. Oh, then massacred Lynn boy. Well, they sure did. Let's talk more about that. Now with a guy who we've had on this show before we always love speaking to Stefan books. Go who covers Borussia Dortmund for ESPN FC back on the program with us now, Stefan what's up, man? Thanks for having me. Yeah. So we I mean, we want to we were just so I guess caught off guard by that game yesterday not necessarily because Bruce should we don't think highly of Bruce Dortmund, we certainly do. It's just that. We don't see that happen to athletics Madrid very often. So I guess my my first question to you would be kind of more of a broad one Dortmund the top of the league in Germany like we just said they've come off this win. That was maybe the most impressive of the Champions League for any clubs so far. It just seems to be such a far cry from. Where they were roughly this time a year ago, what has changed with this club that has kind of propelled them to where they are. Now, how much time do you have just asking? Right. Some too much. So basically this time last year they kitting out beats up where Nico Seattle in the Champions League. And where truly embarrassed. So what has changed day broaden a little of new players like oxidants who played really well defensive mid fear. So must Eleni, and and just got rid of some debt woods, let's say like Oba young so Curtis, and so and so forth, not that these are bad place. But simply because they were I guess in America, you would describe it as locker room cancer at some point. And yeah, right now, you have a new coach who is actually doing really well loosen five the has implemented tactic set work, which wasn't the case with Bush and touched last season. So that's I guess the first thing also you've plays like Christian pulisic heft made the next step jaded sensuous stepping up and not so yeah Copeland last. Nobody had on their radar at the start of the season off performing non chintzy level. And doing very wet. That is. The same can be said about the center back position of with Ben Xs like I do and then to Seattle poop played really well last night. So that's just a completely different and refurbished ROY Saddam on team. They said they needed to make a lot of changes. And they did they wanted to rekindle a new spirit and that sites, and so this is basically what's happening that don't want a very robust site. That's yeah. Half. This never say die mentality which was certainly lacking. And so have to coach to give its whole like technical courses. Let's say to to put it all into action a Stephan. You mentioned Christian Puteh sit there, and that's going to be of particular interest to our listeners. And if you were to summarize how he's taken the next step. What do you mean? Like, what is he doing now in this early part of the new season that maybe you didn't see him do last season? Well, it's it's mostly for him about consistency. Right. He's struggling a little bit with it. Because even this season. I would say that's he finds very tough to string to go tough times together. But that being said on the loose and fatherly. He has now become an automatic stutter. He is the first night, and we're not the first name on the team sheet. But as soon as he's fit and fresh she's always in there and that's new opposed to last season. Where he of course, was the the play with a foot most minutes, but that was more dawn to I less being injured this time three when pulisic fit in half. Then he is starting and and that's a big difference. And of course, he has matured as any play at woods, and he is utilizing that because I think he's picking his battles little bit better. Use become a little bit more wet on. Let's say also defensively because that's something that was lacking before. And especially last night. He he showed that he. He can track back now over with impetus. That is I guess forever. Christian pulisic fan out there. I know there are lots of Severi good news to hear because this is an American based podcast. We're just so hyper sensitive about him. Like, we need to know that he's being taken care of we need to know that he's been that he's being like bit JJ night, basically act like his mother and father here abroad. And we're worried about him. We just wanna make sure that everything's okay with them. Yes. He loved their. Yes. He's left cherish. Stefan. Can you make sure whatever girls he's hanging around with the right? Okay. Yeah. Please give me a little bit more detail on what the right type is. Just just make sure that they're you know, that they they won't keep them out late at night. That's all I'm saying, it's very important for the future of US soccer, right? All right. If you make requests, I might want to return that because my wife has rice a couple of questions about joy, beats go friends. So I'm please make sure that's NBC. John's Ben Simmons also are a hanging with the rights court on court. The right type. I know it wasn't Ben Simmons with KENDALL Jenner overall. No, no, no there. Okay. Well, let's make sure that that doesn't happen to politically back to Dortmund for a second. Stephan. I'm curious. Yeah. Just like listening to analysis following the match yesterday in hearing other podcast talking about that match. All the sudden, I it's like snowballing very quickly with what they're doing in the league combined with that game. Now, you're starting to hear people say maybe they could be this season's Liverpool and go on this deep run through the tournament. Is there an obvious shortcoming with them that you look at and say, no that thing that will prevent them from doing something like that? No right now, actually there isn't because they have been this team on defensive solidity and not the other way around us. They've done so many times before and that is really what you need in the Champions League. They look very mature. Even though they have a lot of young players. And the upside is for don't one paiko Aqazadeh the main strike, obviously didn't play last night this three manage to put four goals past co and they so I have read and been told by exhibition Steph last night have conceded so many Gozo win by the of a margin since two thousand nine almost decade. So it was quite the historic reside. So don't we would only get better. If would be enough to to reach the Champions League final or to even win. That's really that's really tough to say. Because I'm a lot of teams when we look at the bustle announced by Munich's, Graham, Madrid's and all big sides. They usually tend to improve when it comes to a Pearl may or whatever. So. Yeah, it's very unseasonal. Don't would certainly improve. And I think they have a good shot of maybe reaching the semi finals. But I wouldn't like go as far as saying. Yeah, they can win the chimpanzee can certainly not impossible, but you know, hold your horses out just a little bit Stephan. What type of person what type of manager is Lucienne fabric? Because I think we got a good view of who Klopp is I don't think we had long enough to really understand who who Peter Bowes was. But we knew Thomas to Kelly's what kind of of manager if you were to to characterize Lucian fire. What is he? The first word as a journalist working with them together is awkward because he is Swiss, but of a French descent so to speak, and some he doesn't really like to communicate a lot. He is very Koya on answers doesn't like to give away anything. So getting to know you seem father is really really tough that being said from what you hear from the from the players and the staffer on dot ones, Hugh here the highest price that he's an absolute stickler. You always see the the the details that he really wants to play a suitcase and take care about whether to block short with your left foot right foot. Also, yet managing it where with a big squad on have twenty nine players to just create a team spirit and make everyone feel important. And I think you know, as much of a tactical brain, you can be as a coach it's really important that you handled the dressing room will I don't want to say any names Marin new. Butts. You know, it's it's it's very important. So for now, it's he's leaving very good impression. But that being said five will also has the tendency of crush crushing and burning of the seasonal too. So Fennell as positive, but you never know how it's develop Steph Steph unless one for me, and it's taking the look more at the the league rather than the Champions League. You know, we have a lot of Dortmund followers here simply because of Christian pulisic also a lot of bar Munich followers, simply because they're buying Munich. It's only eight games in. So it still feels like we're relatively early in the season. But it is kind of getting late early. You look at the table. Byron sit forth Dortmund have now separated themselves at least a little bit with a four point cushion is they're like we're so not used to there being a title race really over the last few seasons in the Bundesliga when you look at Byron. When you look at Dortmund, do you feel like this is a season where that could truly change or do you think things will normalize in barn will find their spot at the top as we've grown used to the last several years. Last season was certainly that case, you know, sometimes I walked around the city or Germany general look at ten year old kids. I know they've witnessed nothing as bio Munich winning the title in Germany since they have basically have a conscience. So. That that's problematic. And I think this is going to change in some way of fun this season because the Bundesliga have tight Jerez. I don't know if you took the time to discuss the epic ban press conference from last Friday on this show. But, you know, Byron basically is shown themselves to be really resolute, they they extra had a press conference schedule just to to hit out on the media and on the at sacred critical reporting to what their place, and that didn't really take it with. So you know, obviously that was a bit of Hypo Crecy coming out of the band camp because why they demanded respect for their place absolutely slated Kwame. Ben, not nothing at and calling a basically saying that he played crap and costumed Champions League nearly and stuff like that. So that being sets of the overland question, of course, is what exactly? Early was the intention of such a press conference and said do they want to me mitigates? Yeah. For the problematic stints and plan right now avai, look they look rusty especially after the World Cup place like Matz homeless. And so on. Had not performing the highest level. Neither is mar mono Neue. And they they struggle a bit obviously that can change over the course of the season with a new manager that eventually they can turn it around, but don't want. They don't look like they're going to to to crush all fade away like they did last season. So I think just because of don't being strong on a hundred percent or their full potential. We're going to have a tighter race. You can call me out if I'm wrong by April butts funnel, everything is pointing in that direction. What was an incredible press conference on? It was a terrible week for early Hoeness to to not retract our woke back his declaration that Ozil has been playing poor for a few years after the performance of the pope against LeicesteR. But that is another story. Thanks for your time, Stefan. Thank you for having me are thanks to Stefan butts. Go. Yeah. His wife is from Philadelphia. I just found out today. Yeah. She's probably from the, you know, the mean streets the whereas. From the real the real soil of the city where you're from the hoity toity, silver spoon, silver spoon upper-class over Dublin area. Upper Dublin that is where I'm from. So our thanks to him. Nice to see that that Christian pulisic is being taken care of over there. Very important. Yeah. I'll tell you what we're going to take a very quick break. We'll be right back. We've got what to watch for a lot at stake in MLS decision day on Sunday. And then a red card man of the match. All that awaits don't go anywhere. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to Joel checkup. J U L dot com slash sports. If. You don't smoke or vape don't start warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Oh back now on caught off side. You just brought up to JJ during the break. I've said a lot of things on this podcast that have angered people many of which I'll I'll never win people back, and I I've made peace with that. But I don't think I've ever incited listeners to this podcast quite like, my not disdain of. But my general apathy towards the band joy division. I have lost a lot of people. You have. They're very upset. I have said get over it. I said to remedy the situation that I would make you in in old school fashion and mix tape of joy division's best songs. We'll have what I just like go on YouTube, and I'll just type enjoying watch the videos. No because you might get one of their more. How how should we say difficult to listen to songs? I I you need in your entry point should be level terrorists apart and move from there. You Email me a list of the songs, and you go do it. And I'll go do it. Okay. All right. Five songs that a nice tight fife. Okay. And if I come back, I'll be honest, if I say well that ban. Changed music. I'll say it. If I feel that way, if I don't if I think it's just whatever I'll be honest with spire to John Ryan. But let's that's going to happen next week. That's in mail bag next week. You'll have a homework. So you have a homework assignment five songs from spawning. I mean, they didn't have that money album. So it shouldn't be hard. I'll give you five Gooden's. Why didn't they have that many albums because Ian, cardis killed himself at age twenty three a belief. Yep. Which is why I cried the funeral scene from control. The film is only got it just gets me. Everytime. Now, I feel bad don't feel that. And know any of this like, I was not kidding. I don't know who they are. Will you watch the film control? I think he'd enjoy that start. We'll start with the music and move from that. And then we'll go from there. Speaking of things, by the way, coming up on our podcast next week. Did you know one of our favorite shows to talk about and reference on this podcast, arrested development started fifteen years ago? When was the first steps? Fifteen years ago next week. So it's the fiftieth anniversary of episode one of that show is coming up. So we are going to honor that that program on our podcast next week. We should be fun. Yeah. We have a whole thing planned for those of you who listen to us way back in the day when we honored the rock not Dwayne Johnson. But the movie starring Nicolas Cage. You'll maybe have a general sense of what we've got a month. Yeah. And we've been threatening to do this for so long and people have asked us to redo the rock won. But we're not going to we're going to move forward. Yeah. Fifteen years of residence arrested development for start at one of our all time favorite shows. Don't worry. It'll still be football related. Just also arrested development related right? Let's see what to watch for time. EPL Saturday ten AM Fulham and born myth feels huge for Fulham. It certainly does and born with have become kind of a team that you just you don't wanna play and also probably the team shod coun- wishes. His team were considering the money that's being. Spent? At Fulham yet. Not as no he's probably looking at them and thinking, hey, small sized club young manager. Check check money spent on my site. Check money spent on there's twenty five million Jefferson Lerma. Okay. But look at the football they're playing and look at their position in the table. Born with our six right now, this is the envy Darby, and you're right. It certainly needs to start turning around quickly for Fulham and it begins Saturday ten AM. There were home for that one. Born with will be traveling to Craven Cottage Sunday at noon, Manchester, United and Everton kind of Darby really this one. They they're finds Darby the northwest Darby and these fans hate each other on have traditionally for years. It's a it's little loan because there's been seems to be good crossover of transfer of players. And it's maybe not as point hot as Liverpool. Man united. Well, that's the thing is sometimes I feel like they don't like each other though. But like oftentimes you get sort of. A my enemy's enemy is my friend. And the one thing that they share a mutual hatred of liver Pliva never to fairly that is not the situation. I've never felt that. No who is a speaker for Josie. Marino has to start winning quickly. Right. Yeah. I think 'cause Everton grabbed a late winner against Saddam -tan. And I think there's a general consensus. So I text our mutual friend. Jay who was a massive Everton finally just asked a couple questions album, just to get his general feel for it. And he feels like yeah. Look, so the has to dismantle a lot of bad about kind of transactions that were made Kumon and start again with this thing. So he's willing to be patient. And I I feel as if Everton fans will be so I think it's much bigger for Marino. Because if Mark Silva dances in there with his, you know, his bag of tricks, and again, there's contrast Marco Silva, the young open manager lot of people are talking about. And if he makes life difficult for Marino. It's just further pressure on Marino who used to be that guy. Yeah. And then a Monday at four o'clock. That's kind of a different start time. Tottenham four o'clock eastern time Tottenham will host Manchester City Kevin O'Brien talking a little bit about his concern playing at Wembley coming off of his injury coming one day after an NFL game you played there. It's not ideal. Tottenham can't get out of there soon enough. No. But this is a huge game. This is a really really important game for both clubs won for Manchester City who right now are tied atop the table with Liverpool. This is a chance to kind of really make a claim. Okay. We just beat a good club on the road. We are the team to beat and one for Spurs. Obviously who are right on the heels along with arsenal Chelsea of Liverpool and Manchester City they're coming off of a really difficult mid week law not lost draw to PS in Hoven. It feels like their Champions League is over. So the competitions. That now matter to them are getting tighter and tighter. And none more so than this. They want to remain in this. Title racist long as humanly possible and you've got beat clubs like Manchester City at home. If you're serious about that and ask you something quickly if the pitches and bad in a bad order, like if it's if it rains, and it's caught up who does that benefit. I have no idea because I feel like they're both clubs. They both want to press high. They vote like to pass it on the deck. Right. That might be difficult. You see I'm thinking of giants was a giants bears. And then England play Croatia on the Wednesday night in a qualifier the famous defeat where Croatia knocked them out of the European championships. And as an that was the giants have played there in the Sunday. No the field was new and the stadium was new then put the giants and whoever they were playing. I think it was the bears. They caught it up. And it really I mean, it didn't help anybody. Really? But I think I think it hurt England that day there's an NFL game at nine thirty AM on Sunday eagles Jaguars. And then my sister's actually going to that. Oh nice. Yeah. And then four o'clock the next day. Oh god. You better know who it helps though. Honestly, I they're both teams like you say that like to pass the I really don't know. I guess if you don't know then you can't it can't be used as an. Excuse they both have to deal with it. It's adverse for both of them. It's re the aforementioned shot count. It's a really good thing for football. In England are denies not in particular that he didn't get the ownership of the stadium. He tried to buy Wendy stadium, we presumed that will be the home for the London franchise that people are speculating is coming down the line for the NFL. And they would rent it back to the FAA dot was a whole bizarre thing. We never talked about by the way. Yes. So strange, and then we moved to lollygag Sunday eleven fifteen a m eastern time Barcelona and Real Madrid little bit unfortunate, obviously messy not playing. We always enjoy watching. It doesn't feel like full classical. It's a classical without Renaldo a messy. Yeah. No. Yeah. You're right. It's like a brave new world. We will one day have to face and that days on the right? But like we mentioned earlier, we don't need to rehash all ground. It's massive for the Real Madrid manager Jilin low Peggy feels like his job is kind of on the line on Sunday. Who do you like that one? I think it's far Scott to be Barcelona's away. The the form they've been in a fake person. I feel the draw will be such a great result for Real Madrid. Yeah. And then we moved to MLS the final regular season weekend of the year Sunday all these games at four thirty eastern time. Columbus Crew and Minnesota United f c Columbus need to win to clinch a playoff believe it. They've left themselves work to do a thought this was locked in a few weeks ago. We talked about the important game that they had against the Philadelphia union not important because one of these teams was going to miss the postseason important because whoever won that game we thought. Okay, now, they've got a real leg-up to have home field in that initial round. But since then the union won that game and Columbus have just fallen on hard times. It's so funny. It's such a reversal from last year where they were playing. Well, but had all this talk about leaving. Now, they we know they're staying most likely, but they're not playing well. So it's a huge game for them a draw would probably well, I don't want to say it wouldn't be enough. It's contingent on what happens in the New England. Montreal match a win for Montreal combined with a draw or loss four Columbus would get Montreal in because Montreal hold will hold the tiebreaker over Columbus when MLS tiebreaker being more wins. So Montreal would have that over them. So Columbus to feel safe. They've got to beat Minnesota United f c which you really think they should do at home. But we've seen really weird things happen on decision day before teams playing for nothing that have spoiled seasons for teams playing for everything. Now Brad Friedel says that New England will be professional about it on. We'll play it properly and do their job in this. So there's that. Well, I would hope so. Yeah. Well, that's what he said. I mean, they're not a good team. So Sunday, the also all these on Sunday, I'm going to stop saying that LA galaxy hosting the Houston dynamo L A half to win to get in a draw will not be enough rail Salt Lake hold a tie. Breaker and Otley because of math weird math in MLS rail Salt Lake are not playing on decision day. They have already played their thirty four games. All they just sit back and watch now and root against LA. What would it be like Impek? He's living room. Oh. Got to get a Mike and finding out for copies after the game to his family to expand. Why they were hired them by. But yeah, LA have to win the draw that will not do it for him. By the way. I just wanted to say one thing about the galaxy and slots in particular because the other day him will none a I just feel like this bears mentioning for people who weren't left convinced the other day, we got an Email or who I don't wanna put words in her mouth. But it seemed like she was a bit skeptical about the nomination has been nominated for multiple MLS awards. And she felt that was hype she didn't feel it was hype. But you high hype it was it was her idea was used. I just wanted to throw this out there to kind of add a little bit greater perspective to the the point that it is not media hype. That he really has been sensational for them this season. Listen to this. I saw this at soccer dot com. This season saw has averaged a goal or assist once every sixty four minutes or basically one point four times. Pre game. He is involved in in directly involved in a goal. I would like to point out the following that is the highest in league history. The ego Cerna in two thousand one is next at one point three seven followed by Cobi Jones in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight at one point three five we have never literally never seen this sort of officiency from a player in this league. It's it's the most efficient season in MLS history. So he's finding his urva. He's finding it a doddle if you find if you want to say it like that I would say he's playing great. If you wanna make fun of the league, then that's your prerogative. No. I'm just saying people know people say. Many people said he's gonna rip it up. And he has let's see son Toronto FC Atlanta. United f c also playing a win will give Atlanta the supporters shield this game is weirdly fascinating. It is. Because there's the shadow of the imminent departure of tattoo Martino that he's going to Mexico as we put it out was very likely a few weeks ago. But that isn't even what I was going to say Toronto the season is a lost. All right. The season was a disaster for them. We could have never imagined having gone this bat. The only thing that they can cling to is that they still have the points record four. Now, they are playing Lanta should Atlanta. Get a point from this match. Atlanta will then knock that Toronto season from year ago that was the greatest ever. Dynasty out of the record books and Atlanta will now grab hold of that so Toronto for so if they have to find reasons to to enjoy to really wanna go all in that is a oddly interesting dynamic that the schedule gave us on this last day Atlanta have sixty nine points that is what Toronto had last season when they set that record. Also, though, the red bulls play Orlando city a draw or loss for Atlanta and a win for the red bulls will give New York the supporter shield, and that would also give New York the record for most points in a season Atlanta, and the red bulls are doing something that if they were doing it any other year by themselves. It would be truly incredible. That was. God it doesn't that compound the misery of Toronto. Like you've had a terrible season. But at least you could look to last season where you were record-setting trendsetting greatest ever. I know it's just going to be or possibly will be clips the real misery could be for the red bulls who could wind up breaking Toronto's points record. But if Atlanta also break that record the rebels will have had a season where they'll have the second most points at a team has ever had an MLS, and it won't even be the most in this season. They'll still be the two seat in the playoffs credible. Yeah. Let's see. We bring it down the stretch now red card, can I go I hear. Yeah. I've just got to read cards, by the way, breaking all the rules. You know what? Then you go. I all right. My first red card is from the BBC a new and expanded club World Cup head every year, featuring some of the Premier League in your and Europe's top clubs has been proposed by fief because of course, it has an official documents seen by the BBC. There are two options for an annual tournament alongside the original plan for competition. Every. Four years fief is ruling council will decide whether and how to proceed when it meets in Rwanda on Thursday and Friday, you f- is expected to vote against the plans. So just basically dot thing of greed, again, this will be for the elite clubs to maximize their revenues. So they don't have to pay money down. There's no trickle down to Konami they want it all for themselves. They want this massive league. There's too much football. It's just autre. I I hate the idea if this happens I feel like we're we're treading on dangerous. I think we're entering the point. Where a lot of people think the NFL is right now over exposure does not help no Ken to appoint it can open up new markets and bring a new fans it can to appoint. But this to me is going overboard, we have storied an established leagues and practices on European competitions. This is messing for the sake of a cabal of owners who just are saying, well, why are we playing while you're Lester in the Champions League? Look at the size of them. Well, why are they in it? Why is that ludicrous rats in Victoria pets in in it? These people just want to eviscerate the the system. That we've had for years and football. So they can maximize the revenues. It's that simple, and it's going to water down competition that we currently value. And now you're going to not know, which one matters in which one doesn't it's different competitions are gonna matter for different clubs. So you're going to have certain clubs putting out an ace squad. But the club they're playing won't care about it. So they'll put out a c squad. And it will it will ruin a lot of competitions. I feel that we hold dear mainly the Champions League. Yeah. Which is which is the preeminent European competition World Cup competition for a reason. Yeah. I'm worried about that one. Also, I really am Infantino JJ. My my red card goes to Leo Messi sling. What is arm was wrapped up? Was it really was shotty really shot. It's like the most rudimentary. You expected it to be like space age. Well, it just it looked like made of carbonite fibers like the kind of medical excessively that like a soldier in World War Two would have received. Like like, he was just right off the battlefield. It was so business coming out of the Ardenne with all the advances that we've had in modern medicine. This is the treatment for the world's greatest player. It was just an ace bandage tied around his neck linked up with his arm. Like I and I'm not in any way trying to impugn Barcelona's medical team. Maybe this really is the best way to treat the injury that he has I don't know after all there is something to be said for the simplest methods being the most effective methods and all that. But JJ I mean, I'm pretty sure this is this look to me when I looked at him. I was like that's the same treatment that Wiley Coyote received after he got hit by a bus chasing the road. Exactly the same. Like he can't be fitted with a proper cast. Or like I've seen slayings that are designed for your arm to kind of go through a sleeve kind of thing. This was just like a glorified rubber band like an ace bandage tied around his neck. I was like that can't be all it is. It was like, I don't know. Very weird to me, surely for Lio Messi, we can at least fit him with something of modern science and technology. Hey, if it works, then who am I to to say, otherwise I didn't remark upon it? I just thought it was he could get to sit with the Santiago watch the game. Yeah. That was cool. Maybe maybe Seattle made it from as an arts and crafts project, yet JJ, what is your other rent card? Just play. Phil Neville for me. Okay. This is the celebration celebrates. This this guy here that goes. Does it? Click. She spits he's going back to celebrate getting today. Disgraceful. Sira said not guy keeping the club. Yeah. You wouldn't fill. You wouldn't your moral outrage is not welcome here. Listen, this is a general thing. It's not just the way people treated that incident at the weekend was astounding to me, and it shows the levels of hysteria that we have right now in the game disgraceful. Was it really, discreet, like think of the term disgraceful? Right. I know everything's in context. But it wasn't. It was an overexuberance celebration, which was was bonded to buy a threat of violence from a man that never manifested itself. Let's move to Sergio Ramos Sergio Rama's is being hauled over the coals. And the media will have been asking questions constantly about him out of frustration in a drill kicking a ball at a youth player twice. Andrew any of us who have come up through the game on any game. Competitive highschool anything we've all done are seeing stuff like this. It was nothing yet. He had to. To take to Twitter, probably at the urging of rail Madrid officials to say the following in Champions League voice. Although it may not seem like it. They quite common situations. But it is not an excuse. My reaction should not have been that. We always go full, right? Ragweed ragweed is obviously the player in the end team victory together. Like he shouldn't have to do this. This is just normal banal stuff. And it's you don't annoys me as well. When someone cusses on TV, and I can hear it on the sideline parabolic Senate can hear it. I hold on TV God because it's part of the experience. If you go to the game, you don't have an air snow. The fish are Liverpool official beside you. We apologize for that fruity language as like I hear from our little white or whoever stop trying to sanitize everything. But there are genuine terrible things happening in football that we should be property concerned about an when the true back to the studio after Marino was these off Automata off. Automatic reactions from like Robbie stole who spent the best part of twenty years in English game. Magin the things that have happened to him at the end of Alan Shearer's, elbow. You know on. He was disgraceful yet. Just disgraceful. It's not disgraceful. Everyone needs to just calm down. Enjoy the game. Don't try and sanitize the stuff that actually secretly. We get a kick out of your right? I largely agree with you. But the only thing I would tell you is let's not at least act like what happened in that Marino. Marco Yanni situation. Wasn't unusual. Let's not make it sound. Like that happens. All the time. We there's a manager. There's a camera fixated on managers all the time. We don't switch was worse, which was worse. Joe Jordan on the sideline for Tottenham when to so and him squared off. I two so practically what did he end probably that one. Right. I'm not look, I'm not no I'm not saying that a crime was committed. I agree. The Phil Neville saying that needs to be fired is so over the top. I just I, but I say that this it it did warrant coverage. Like, I do believe that why can't people just be normal people? I remember I'm a show that we both loved Opie and Anthony. Which wasn't everyone's taste and a lot of stuff. They said I really didn't like, but they used to say they used to make fun of radio guy who would talk in. Hello. And they were like talk in your own voice, talk the way, you talk. That's what's, you know, clear to people. That's what people want authenticity. Right. I want when someone throws back to the panel. So many say, you know, what that was nothing handbags nothing. In fact, I've seen Morse and tell me where you see more. Instead of what they're they expect to be said, I'll tell you what not to be a show, but I do believe like you get that from on the SPNFZ panel. Yeah. You know? I I do think, you know, shock all those guys I feel like you get to disparage NBC SNL. I think they're covered is great. And I think usually you get similar stuff from them too. But I think in the moment they were reacting something to something that was unusual, and maybe it caused some people to to over exaggerate member. Craig Burley, we asked him about an incident. He told us about Nigel Pearson. Running down the tunnel to attack Dimitri Cairene Chelsea goalkeeper. Right. Just be authentic and and stop getting so worked up of this nonsense. Eric caught off sides men of the men out. You're all worked on over nonsense. Let's see my man of the match JJ. It takes a big man to do what I'm about to do. And I'm gonna do it. My mental match goes to the Mexican national team members in this week's Champions League will will whoa, whoa. This is what I feel like this is a Scooby doo moment where I rip off your mask. And you're actually I've been Hercules Gomez all along or something like that. JJ Irving Lozano scored for PSV in the Champions League. Hector Herrera scored for FC Porto. And hey, Zeus corona also scored for FC Porto all in the Champions League, by the way. Lozano? Also, drew the red on Hugo lorries and corona also provided the assist for Harare's goal. Bigger picture Lozano this year at PSV all the height that came into the season on the back of a good World Cup for him. He's got eleven goals and four cysts in fifteen matches. So he's been directly involved in fifteen goals in fifteen matches for PSV this season. He is living up to the hype. Can you even begin to imagine? How you and I would be reacting if this were US players like there was a week in the Champions League. Where like pulic scored mckennie scored is there even a third a third American that we can name who could score in a in a Champions League, man. We would me, and you would go to Home Depot, we would bite chisels, and we would scale mount Rushmore and put another face on mount Rushmore of US. We would lose our fricken mind, right? And yet for Mexico it almost felt routine like Lozano. Yeah. He's really good. Couldn't could it be better players than impossible impossible. But you know, what I give them their due because they are those guys are flying right now for their clubs in the Champions League. So we always say it mean, you we we have got one leash and it's you want you to play as the top clubs blame. Well. And that's true. Isn't it CONCACAF above all words to live by it'll be on my tombstone? It's your new tattoo Kaka cap above all God. Well, hey, that's our show for the week. Our thanks to step on books code joining us earlier to talk about ULA sick, and Bruce Dortmund and therefore no win. This is fun. We will be back next week with full recaps. Of course, the classic o of Tottenham Manchester City and look ahead to the postseason plus are arrested development tribute. I guy fun, man. I got a brush up on my arrested development. Then I know should be a good time. Hey to you. I say. Take care. Listening to cod off side soccer podcast.

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Caught Offside: Jump to Conclusions

"Caught offside with Andrew gully and JJ Davani. Off side of the Upper West side of Manhattan, and John Lee, JJ Davani what's up or other good. I'm imagining your good as well. And seeing that salad. Spinner of the stadium is now open. I couldn't even get ten seconds into the podcast without you making fun of. No, it's it's quite something to look at. It's amazing. But it does remind me of my mother salad spinner from back in the day just has salad spinner style shape. It's circular is. That all takes you know, it looks like a large salad spinner. I don't know if this is an insult or what I'm not gonna take his an insult because I'm in a fine mood. I happen to love the new stadium thrilled that they're in. It looks amazing. At Wembley is is now, but a memory I will say before we get to that. Because we will talk about Tottenham the new stadium. We're gonna talk a lot about Manchester United and what happened to them yesterday. And how the top four race may be got a little bit more interesting because of it Fulham and how they're out of the Premier League, which Khanna makes you an I look a little bit foolish if we were to go back and look at our preseason predictions. I think you well. I don't I think food is zone fair, but gone, very foolish is probably the more fair complete foods. I will say there was there has been a lot of bellyaching from Tottenham fans over the last two years or so while they've played in Wembley myself included at times, especially when we played when we talk about Neil Warnock, how he was saying how it's an unfair advantage for the teams that got to play Tottenham at Wembley, which to this day makes my brain hurt thinking about his logic to that. But whatever I will say looking back on it Tottenham time at Wembley was not the total disaster that I think some Spurs fans may make it out to be they did defeat Real Madrid there they had their way with Borussia Dortmund there on a couple of occasions. They continued to remain Champions League side while they played their atop Foreside in the league. You know? I it could have been a lot worse. Given what some of the alternatives were Wembley was not the worst option for Tottenham to be an and so I do think that. Maybe a little bit of of the bellyaching that you heard near the end of this was just people who are just wanted to be back at White Hart Lane already who wanted to back bar, traveling traveling fans who go to the games who may even live in the Tottenham area or close to it. I mean, they're entitled to do that the difference is Andrew you're not you're not there week in week out like and the fans that were doing the most bellyaching were were season ticket holders or regulars void heartland. And they just wanted to go home, of course. And that I understand right. So we'll talk about that shortly. But we will start with Manchester United JJ they lose to wolves on Tuesday this week after blowing a lead. They did go up one. No on a Mattamy. His first goal. Scott, Mattamy United. I it probably could have been to Lukaku had a free header point blank range that route Patricio you can call it a good safe is positioning. I guess was perfect. But there's no way like he kinda just was he gonna do the ball was just hit. Right. Adam. He kinda got lucky. What was worse? I thought was the Jesse lingered header then followed. But Andrew after that flurry wolves were pretty comfortable and were good value for the win. If there's one thing we've learned about wolves this season. It is that there is no opponent that will scare them knowing and United were particularly not scary. No you have to look at the goals as well. It's damage heya. Plays a perfectly fine pass out of defence to Fred on the half. Turn who just botches his gives it away. Diego Dowd buries it. And then the defending on what turned out to be the winning goal was. I just calamitous stuff. I don't what the hey was don't don't know. What Jones was doing particularly don't know what small was doing. So in that sense United shot themselves in the foot. But if you look at the midfield. Wolves played like a team with with a genuine plan, and they had genuine control and fire to money of United's players went missing in that midfield. I'm weren't up to it, including I would say, I know Mattamy is young. So he kinda gets a possible Pago again for another game running just anonymous not that he did anything body. Just didn't do anything wasn't good really wasn't good. And on wolves was beat them in the FA Cup. This should not come as a shock to people for so bar United. Go into Malu that they might be. Yeah. It is amazing. How we look at Manchester United right now because they do have guys like Papa Lukaku, you know, huge names in the sport. And it it feels like when Marcus rash Vard's not there. They're just not the same team. Yeah. He was out yesterday. His ability in his pace to run the channels and create things Marshall to it seems to suit dot com. Kind of counterattacking football more than than Lukaku does. No that's not to say to. Not a very good player, but Pago Pago has shown under only gonna solve for large part largest part. And then in the last few weeks when we see the talk emerging from Real Madrid kind of flirting that's going on between the Dannon himself. Dan is performances Taylor way a little bit. And. Yeah. It's it's a weird time for them right now because all is now at the wheel, and you know, we are beginning to refocus and look to the future unin doing that. You're looking at their weak points, and they have quite a few. Yeah. It's interesting how we're starting to slip back in like me. Just sitting here listening to right now talking about, you know, Pago went missing, you know, we're talking about Lukaku not able to finish like they went on that run for a little while when social came in. Yeah. Which has colored everything you say you say little run, right? No. It was a massive run. It was which include an epic turnaround in the champions against PS G. And as I was listening to Ken early talk today about it that kind of coagulated together say those results were sprinkled in amongst defeats. You don't have the same view, but it was a chunk of wins. Barely a bad result to two at Burnley was about the height of it are a home to Bernie was about the height of it. And then they go and. Knock PS geo. And so it's almost impossible not to give social the job or does a wave of support behind him. Yeah. But it just feels like now that the dust is kinda settled United are sort of reverting up maybe a little bit back to being the United that is flawed that, you know, look Josie Marino lost them because the team I think it stopped playing for him and the style of plane which he wanted to play was not working for this group. You know, so social came in. And clearly there was this energy that rushed through the team. And you know, maybe now the league is catching up with them a little bit. Maybe some of that energy is is I I don't know. I don't really understand what all the reasons could be that maybe United are coming back down to earth a little bit. But if you are starting to feel like some of the cracks that were papered over during that runner are you're kind of being reminded that the this is not a perfect teen. No, it's not you've got a name to hold overs from the Ferguson era involved in in the calamity at center back. They probably need to address. Yes, that you can also look at say, for example, the watt for game that they wanted the weekend. I mean, they didn't play. Well, they were fine. But what I actually came to Old Trafford on. We've said that on a number of Cajun's about some of the United wins over the stretch. Of course. Yeah, they play well, but they they want, but they won't 'and that is the ultimate papering over the cracks looked the team needs investment. Now, we see what Seoul shower is going to get and how this is going to look where hearing rumors about Jaden Sancho, which he's a fantastic young player. Put I don't think he's the area he addresses the area of need straightaway. It you still have Ashley young plane getting sent off you Fred I feel bad from because he hasn't had a consistent Ronin the team. But it hasn't been great. I would say centreback as well was crying about. I need my centrebacks. I need my son back. He did spend money there. Use it consistently. Got it wrong are, but I think that that would. Like if I were making a list of what needed to be addressed. That would maybe be topping my less, unfortunately, continue with Lindelof and by someone alongside him. Do you want to move by on do I mean smiling Jones? Yeah. There's there's a lot of questions. What do you do with Lukaku talking to a lot of Manchester? United fans has been disappointing. Like if you what do you do with him? Do you need to bring in a -nother striker who's more reliable than what he's become or do sell him at what would be an enormous loss. I would think what happens with Alexa Sanchez. What happens what your goal keeper? Does. He decide knows. It's probably good time. Von there are a lot of questions here and Craig Burley who has kind of been one of the at least here on ESPN has been one of the leading voices who is kind of anti-seoul Shire before he was named permanent manager and since and Craig Burley talks about some of these questions and says the United made a mistake giving social job people were going to with the results when it was papering over the full rebuilt. Team needs. I know the historic injuries and the big question here is and that's the point. I was making Ellen week. Stevie was making. How can such an experienced manager oversees such a big rebuilt of the Beck is club and world football. Because if you think it needs half a dozen players because of one exit games a few weeks ago, then you living in cloud cuckoo. See? I think that applies to more than saw Shire. I think if they went on phone the best young manager. In europe. And we're looking long-term he had more of a CV than than Sasha has. I still think that they need to find out a better way of their of basically executing their football operations. I mean, they need a director of football. It's clearly not being working in the transfers that they've made under on either managers, and you know, I still believe they've got to give aw- share everything he can possibly need to move forward. And and make an in for this is interesting. A lot of the focus was all saucers dune at the United way because we saw few young players get involved. I mean, those young players were are owned Marino. You know what? I mean. It's like, okay. There was a few academy guys that were on the field at the at the end against PS G, but largely what is soldier going to do different other than go into the market again. Like, where's United scout? Nice thing the other day. When did was the last time United bought a real under the radar signing? That's going to our when's the last time someone's comb up through apart from rational. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. But I mean that was out of a total need under LV. Gee, I mean, he was on worked out. I'm just saying that. People are kind of looking at soldier only news the club. But what does that mean in modern day football? I mean that club does not represent I wouldn't say resembles at all what saw Cher left. Well, no, certainly not when he retired. So it was what does it mean? To know the club were so United have intrinsic values are certain ways of playing a guarantee Andrew he's still going to ask for money. And you're hoping as Burley points out there that inexperienced manager who's never had this budget. Either at Cardiff are at Malda is going to be able to to to guide the way. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. It could either be very simple if Manchester United are determined to immediately get back to being the club of that prestige that we know them to be and there, and they just like say okay blank checks. You know, what you want eight and Sancho fine. Like that can be very easy. Yeah. Jaden Sancho looks like he's going to be great. I'm reading today that Barcelona with the new players that they're going to be that they are bringing in and talking about bringing in with guy. Like reason they're planning a significant sell off to Cotino could be out TT could be out like okay, like United need a centreback t t is now available from Barcelona. Yeah. Let's open up the person. And like, that's simple. The problem will be if they're not willing to go to those lengths to bring in like, the top level talent, the obvious choices will then what do we do? Once we get the choices B C D. That's where it gets tougher. So I don't know it'll it'll be interesting to see what Edward Woodward is willing to do if he'll spend freely than I think it could work. But I think that I think they have spent freely they need a new way to do this, and they need to go who's going to operate in a different manner. They have spent they literally porch. Alexa Sanchez from under the nose of Manchester City. Before we get off of Manchester. United Mike dean handed out a red card or two yellows to Ashley young his one hundred s and I have some things we're gonna talk about with that. But I I'll ask you a buddy of mine was texting me and was very upset. Did not think it was warranted. A second yellow sending off I respectfully disagree. I thought it was definitely a yellow, and I was totally fine with him being sent off. So my there's no debate. It was a yellow no it wasn't a vindictive. Tackle it was. Because Scott MC Tommy played a Barutcu pass that had him stretching to keep possession on his completely sculptured him on main meant that he stretched he had his feet up and he's caught him on the follow through. It wasn't a straight CNN. And he was just a fortune, by the way, it was a terrible pass a hospital pass put him in position. Yeah. So like you said this was this was Mike teens one hundred. Earth sending off this is an amazing achievement. It needs to be celebrated. JJ I have in front of me some stats about this. That were given to me by the guardian ready. I would ask these trivia questions. But I honestly have no faith in you. Or almost anyone to be able to answer these. But you can jump me. If you want to get in there real quick his first red card that he handed out April of two thousand one to Newcastle's Nobre to- Solano Berta salon. I would never have got that I know because Nabi salon on the same like that going to play. Well, none of them are until they are. There are six players that dean has sent off multiple times. Ashley young is. Now, one of that group, the others the other five Andy Cole Fernando Torres. Lauren kashani, Mike Williamson and Richard done. There are two teams that he's issue nine ready or Richard two teams that might dean has issued nine red cards to Manchester City, and Chelsea and there's actually two games in which dean issued three red cards within those individual games. September four West Brom and Fulham ended one one and over of eight Manchester City and Spurs want to one to Tottenham this season. JJ Mike dean has sent off ten players that is actually his career high. The season's not over yet. So we are witnessing history right now. He is quite time to be alive. He's quite the eager beaver isn't. He remember when the the ill-fated and not very long lived grappling. Diktat came down primarily we're going to stamp it out. What you're going to do is you're gonna give a penalty on you're gonna get no questions asked first game of the season at stoke. What's he do penalty straight away? He was literally the only ref who they all did kinda sell them out. If we're all supposed to be doing this. He's like he's the guy who took a step forward. And no one else did. But you can imagine Mike demon that Decak came down from from the Premier League. Yes murray. All right. My time to shine. Let's see we continue now. JJ Fulham peace out Fulham. That was sad. What a sad return to the Premier League. It was for them pathetic such a bummer. How bad is it? Andrea just on a general point that we are six five six games left. Onto teams are gone already. Yeah. The hell not good. No now, there is still doesn't mean that there isn't a good relegation race that is still going. But it I mean, it's not really a relegate. It's it's although it's gonna be tough because Cardiff for now five back of Burnley, right? So yeah. That even that race has kind of slowly dissipated a little bit. But yeah, it's it's a bummer. And it's really, I don't know. I just I won't speak for you. Like, I did at the start of the show. I was wrong. I was very wrong about Fulham. I never thought it was going to go this way. I'm not saying I thought they'd be doing what wolves are doing right now. But I certainly did not think it was going to be like this. I know they're defending was was an abomination. But I thought there would at least be some games where they're attack would make up for it. It never materialized who who knew it would've taken Ryan Babel to even make their attack respectable Ryan says and you'll never seem to acclimate to the Premier League the way a lot of people thought he would Shirlow in his return lashes. Yeah. It just it never worked. There was an injury early on to Tom Karen who was one of their best players last season that didn't help John Michael Siri had moments where he was fine. But overall that signing ended up falling flat to every time their goalkeeping. Sweet Lord, their goalkeeping was just dire. I mean, honestly when you go through that many managers in a season like every means everything was bad. Every single thing was bad for Fulham. And I just I don't know. I didn't think it was going to go that way. I don't think Tim ream did either he had some thoughts on this. And I would say he is now of a level. Like, you know, he's veterans thirty three he was their player of the season in their promotion season last year. So I think he is somebody who can speak up when he sees. He was garbage too. He had a bad season. But he said that quote, we haven't shown it togetherness unity, desire, passion. This is what he said post-match after the relegation was complete. We showed it in bits and pieces in the first half. And then go dead and flat we need to find it from somewhere guys need to speak up more in training sessions. What we need to do in the match is a product of what we do between Monday to Friday that is a bit of an indictment on multiple levels on on maybe players becoming complacent with having gotten back up. And then by the time, they started the panic. It was too late on managers that they've had the season that may be just I don't know for when you're listening to you talked about turmoil behind the scenes in terms of their director of football in terms of wasn't going to be stats based approach right before the season. It was who was making these signings like way before that. Yeah. Steve Sidwell who used to play for Fulham. He had some interesting things to say on. It speaks to what Tim ream said about togetherness. They the said this to be radio five they will one of the best footballing teams in the championship. But this year defensively, it's been a shambles signing twelve players would have been demoralizing for the existing players the squad needed strengthening, but not to that extent. They did not name a consecutive back for the first ten games. And as a result they've been all over the place. The players got them into the primarily deserved a crack at it. But they did not get the chance that's not that to me twelve signings. Dole. Like it did change the whole dynamic of the team. They also had remember we talked about the Ashland game earlier in the season. I did a bit of analysis on on the full pack positions where they kept changing and they couldn't settle on. We're gonna put Christie there. Are we going to put Calum chambers in decide how are we going to do this? And the with team was. Settle. But this was you kind of. The whole midfield on attack was full of people who will not track back on all that site. And the fullbacks who were supposed to get forward as well in his boat is the modern fullback will were completely exposed in behind. It was it was terrible. It was a team without a plan on. So what happened to the middle of the failure of front definitely impacted the rest of the team. I mean, the most amount of players who represented the site in championship where we're at the back. Glaze up the field, it it just didn't work JJ. Dave conceded, seventy six goals this season. No one see more than seventy all of last season. They're still six games to go. What's that number gonna finish at? I'm looking two years ago. Whole conceded eighty Fulham gonna clear that with ease. Like, this is where's where's this going to end? This was I never thought. I just never thought. And I'm sad. I'm very sad. See Tim ream go down. I wonder what happens to him now championship level player. Let's be honest. And I think he's he's going to he could go on and join another team or maybe if they restructure correctly, stay at Fulham, and they go back up again. It's not impossible. No, certainly not reams a good solid championship level player. He's pro he spent the bulk of his career there, and I feel sorry from to. Let's see we go now to Wednesday's matches today. Earlier today we start JJ in north London. We can say that again at the new White Hart Lane Tottenham and Crystal Palace the first game therefore Spurs, they went to nil. Would you like to hear the what the first goal sounded? Like, not really, well, you're in luck. Because I have it right here. We're back by average possibilities here song Trump. The money's left foot. You get. Was the first Christian Erickson helped create it took it away with the high press at the sun cut inside bang goal. One nil steady on our low. What do you mean? I golden new stadium. Also, what's your problem? Exactly. I wanna know it's from day one it just trying to head one issue after another with the stadium trying to wind you seriously. No, no, it's good. It's get it and delighted I don't get it. If you were building a new stadium. I'm just curious. What would be like if they came to you like, okay, JJ you where you can design this. What's what is your priorities for this dot the stands are right over the field that they're nice and close. I think spars probably did that I I want to make it as comfortable for the fans as possible. And also like, you know, basic things shouldn't be after tall like for disabled, fines or anybody that. They can go to the game atmospheres us like I said. Yeah. I mean, if I'm a core if I turned into a blazer, I wanna make sure corporate blaze. I want to make sure that the boxes are rereading. Can't believe I'm hearing. You say these words, I wasn't even say that. I don't or disgusting the commercialism that you just I said if wet if I was a, but but you have to accept it. You know, that's the way asking you. If you were on the sales are literally two key things for me for me atmosphere, 'cause I bring this up because I actually do think the Tottenham took those like took that into account that atmosphere was the number one priority, and they did they put this doesn't with a. Seats is close to the field as is allowed. And they put them at the the steepest like the cop end that they have now is the steepest incline the violence dowdy, which is like in on top of the she's what you want, right. And and they they spoke to like for me. I would go to the people that created were the Seahawks play and say, okay. What did you do to this place that makes this so much louder than every place else? And Tottenham did the research. They they've spoken about how they've spoken to acoustics experts who have gone on tour with tomato things like that to make sure that that stadium shakes. I've really give them credit because I think I think they know what they had at the old White Hart Lane, and they know that it's not going to be the same at this place. But the one thing that they can try to keep the atmosphere where it was. And I think they really did bend over backwards to try to do this said Stafford blower has a piece on the new stadium. He visited any walked in the neighborhood around the stadium, and it's full three six five you really need to read it all Spurs fans. Need to read that? I mean, I've. It's a lot. He gives every virtual tour that I can of this thing in terms of what we talked about is that called power Bolic's in terms of the sound on the noise, acoustics, acoustics guess. He thinks that it's taught them have high dot at the forefront of their mind, and they have delivered on that as far as we know we need the I really that. Roar from the sun goal was pretty well. Right. But I'll tell you the Champions League games are going to be something. We'll find out next week. Exactly. He thinks that they've they've hit the nail on the head there. He did little investigation into well taught that area of London has thirty three percents on employment. There's often this kind of way of sporting economics that says building stadiums in disadvantaged areas, ultimately raises the level of those areas and helps out and he's just wondering if that will happen. And he's asked if you questions about what that that's not always true. No, it's not always true. But I'm it's really interesting article. And I forgot that the remember the London riots twenty eleven that was an area that was on their first game against ever hugely affected by that. So it's he said it's jarring where people have no money. To see something that just screams money going into the into their area. And and he's just conscious of how that's going to work out. It's really good pace. People should read it, and he doesn't fall down one way or the other. He just says it's going to be interesting to see what happens, but in terms of the stadium itself pretty much ringing endorsement, yeah. Anyone like even the most? What would you say about Megan Delaney? He would be a fairly not cynical is not the right word. But he he won't live something's bad. And he was in there. He was pretty impressed by this place as well. So the thing that I was always fearful of like when West Ham fans went from the Berlin ground to the London stadium. There was no enthusiasm about making that lettuce arena. I know. And I'm saying, I think you know, like, I was always worried though because the old White Hart Lane was so beloved. Yeah. I was always worried that there would be this kind of like a like, okay. Let's do this like we don't wanna be here. Really? But in some ways, I think. The delay to move in actually wipe that away because I think the fan base was so tired like we talked about before of Wembley and was just like so get back to north London that like any, you know, any fear of of, you know, going into this new place. Whereas, you know, they used to love the old ground. I think that was all wiped away. I think there was just like this feeling of going back to like your neighborhood that just. Kinda just like eliminated that about six or seven years ago. I wanna see arsenal play Wigan now was three pm kick-off, which is the daylight definitely has an effect, especially when that was when they dominated the football on. We're just talking on top. And we walked by the old arsenal stadium at Highbury, which is the facade is being preserved and a lot of it. Still looks like the outside of the stadium. The contrast it. Just absolutely reeked of the history. The it was just fantastic and you go to to the Emirates which gets regularly canned for its atmosphere. And it really is. It's not a good atmosphere until it read the game that the players have to give the fans reason to cheer are -solutely. It doesn't hold hold its own kind of almost im- built atmosphere. If you wanna say that. Yes. Then again, things are changing you look at on fill and fill. These days is. You know, there's the ebben the flow of the game. I get it. But this long stages where it's quiet too. Yeah. And part of that is just like a different clientele. That's tending rice things. Yeah. You're right. The game has become we talk about all the time. It's become a little more corporate especially for some of these bigger clubs. So it's it's a challenge for these teams sometimes to like force the atmosphere, but the big games are still the big games. Absolutely. No question about that. Speaking of this Real Madrid have announced that they're going to be not necessarily building a new stadium renovated redesigning the burn abou-, which I've been there. I don't know. If this is look I was there once and I just went to my seat and walked around. I don't know. I wouldn't have looked at that place and said this is a dump like, but you know old. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it is they're not adding seats seats, roughly eighty thousand. Now, it's going to remain bring retractable roof on and they're changing the outside facade completely. I will say from the designs that I saw it looks what they're planning on doing looks really cool. There's no question about that. So, but that's going to be done over the course of four years sort of in installments during the offseason. So they're not gonna move. No this happen at the at Madison Square. Here in New York where they redesigned the garden on the fly, basically doing the Nixon Rangers off seasons. No Real Madrid. Couldn't possibly play anywhere else. It just wouldn't work. I wonder. Yeah. The other thing by the way, if we were designing stadium bathrooms. That's huge can't have people like 'cause everyone pretty much has to go to the bathroom at the same time. It's not like the NFL. There's a time out. I can run real quick. Everybody's going to have time. That's it. There's no stoppages you need to have gotta have a lot. So everyone can bang get and get out that would be important for me. Lots about them into some stadiums. Like relatively new ones like MetLife. And I'm like why is there a cue? Yeah. I mean, look some of its own avoidable. There shouldn't be acute. We haven't talked about the game. It was a good win for Spurs. They desperately need it their first win since mid February while and it puts them back temporarily into third arsenal. Do have a game at hand. Therefore, Spurs are one point ahead. The two are tied on goal difference. But you know, it's. This is important Tottenham still have to go to Manchester City, but aside from that, they got a lot of home games in this new place against opponents that you would consider to be winnable opponents. I don't know always what that means late in the season. We just saw United lose to wolves. I saw Tottenham lose to Southampton couple of weeks ago. So who knows it's hard to look at the schedule. But it's this was important for them to get that win today. JJ we continue Chelsea and Brighton Callum Hudson. Doi gets the start nice assist on the first goal to Libya. Ru played a good game had that assist and several key passes. Yeah, wasn't is finished from Jerusalem. I thought Chelsea actually look pretty good. They did look good. It was comprehensive move quite easy. In has are started imagine that and scored a. You see the goal that his skull. The goal scored was just so him fake the shot took a man out of the play. And then just kinda like finesse into the corner. Loftus cheek with similar one was office. Just shakes finish was beautiful. Not. I was it was an easy one for Chelsea. As was Manchester City's win over Cardiff scored early scored at the end of the half nothing to say. I mean, I had worn speaking before the game. And I'm like, he gotta get them. All. And he just seemed defeated is like the weekend. Still he's still got that hang over this game for Manchester City. It was such one way traffic how it was only two near like, you're right possession was eighty twenty shots twenty seven four twenty seven is just wild. I mean United only eleven on target. But yeah. And the thing for Manchester City like we look at this performance granted, it's against Cardiff. So I'm not going to get carried away. But like a grow didn't start. There was no Bernardo Silva or or Gundi one in the starting eleven became keep repeating myself. This is a team built to do this. Got talent for talent avid Silva was a sub like this is it's crazy. Kyle Walker did not start Benjamin Mendy is still out. If there's phones first senior league start was is this first one like you could I would almost like to see the team that we could create of men city players that did not start this game. And like I wonder where that teen team might also finished top four. It's crazy. How ridiculous they are. It is tough fight for you guys really is. Well, look at this Duncan Alexander here. We are the first time in English top-flight history that two teams have had seventy nine plus points after thirty two games that's based on the three points for a win model generally against runners up generally against runners up medals, but sometimes get the mortared meaning whoever finishes second it's going to be a wild points total, and it will have been enough to win most primarily I mean Liverpool. They've lost one game this season. And they're not in. I that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. So there you go. That's our look at some of the mid week action. We will talk a little bit more Premier League in our what to watch for section, although it isn't FA Cup weekend. So the fixtures list is kind of disjointed it's all over the place. But JJ we did promise the people when we come back. It's time jump to conclusions week in MLS. Stay tuned. Kilter. That was the United wool match the wolves goals with the stone. Rosen's foods gold. Well, you're not be going row. Her troll troll. Well, two things. Yeah. United finds going around singing all is at the wheel to the tune of waterfall, but it's stolen roses on you. And the rundown had written FU determined foods gold. No, you never said it. No. But it inspired me to think. Well, what's another stone rose the song we could use that might accurately? Trey loss on like the stone roses payroll or something every week. You're sending me a difference stone roses asked me the best gig. I've seen in the last five years why this is a leading question. It's obviously some stone roses is the Madison Square Garden. Okay. Own believable. Are you fan? I don't know they're making you mixed if top I have not. If you wanna do that thing you did that other time where you sent me some songs to YouTube. That's fine. Magnetic who even like do you have a tape player CD player? What are you gonna pay him CD stas, where am I gonna put it? I don't have a CD player. All you have Spotify. Right. No. I will not pay. So so I will Email you five stone roses songs. Yeah. By the way. Controversial. I think as the city Manchester has better music than Liverpool had and liberal had the Beatles. Hottick who can you give a breakdown? That's quite dominate the landscape. But if you look at new order, largely came from Manchester, you look at the stolen roses came from Manchester. You look at a waste came from Manchester. Just for starters who does Liverpool have side from the Beatles. The last could band. Cast could ban either really know who these bands are there. So they have I'm forgetting eighties legends echo on the bony men. They were good, bud. I'll probably missing noting slump, but that's my unifying theory. Let's jump to conclusions week in a moment from us. But before that JJ, I did want to tell all of you. We mentioned this last week as well to checkout. Julie Foudy new podcast laughter. Permitted this week. Actually, she spoke with me a ham while one of the greatest soccer players of all time. And I've been assured that there are lots in all caps, lots of laughs in this one because laughter's permitted. Well, that's important. If you're going to commit the laughter. You must deliver the laughter. So check that out. I will anyway me a high school. She had Jessica Mendoza last week. If you're doing a statue someone who has to get a statue HAMAs up there right for American soccer. Like if there's a Unum. Are we gonna do the the ultimate in sports talk radio who's on your mount, Rushmore and soccer? No rush. Bill. I'll tell you what we're going to have that right back. No, not what I mean is like there's probably not a more conic vision than Mia in terms of like, she's probably. I want to say, she's the greatest female soccer player in American history. Wambach is seething listening to this. I mean, she's in the com- carry in the conversation Meghan routine on the conversation, Alex Morgan, it's tough. It'd be an interesting conversation to have let's see JJ. Here we go it's jumped to conclusions week for those who are new to the podcast. We do this early in the seasons for both MLS and EPL where we come to these. Well, we'll make a conclusion, and then we will decide whether or not we're willing to jump to that conclusion much like an office space. It would be this Matt that you would put on the floor, and what have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to before we begin. Oh, Ryan Snyder tweets us as earthquakes fan. I'm definitely afraid to listen to this either. A we get torn apart for being garbage or be. We are. We are not even mentioned because we sell so bad b b would be your answer. Tell you the mounted time we spend talking about them on our MLS preview boss a matter of weeks ago. Ryan go back and listen to that because it was full of joy, which is something that is not in San Jose right now. But they do have the largest free standing bar. They do in the US is it or. Yeah. Come on. Can you imagine doing a podcast life from there? How cool would that be because you'd be able to say, hey, it's got off side from San Jose, stadiums stun Jose earthquake stadium and also they suck. And we took to I love to you love seeing that I think very little of myself. And you quite frankly, you ready for the first conclusion to this. All right Toronto are back jumping I am not just jumping to that conclusion. It would be there. Dear on them. That's view jumping. I am. Leaping to this conclusion. Have you a leap sound? I can hit it twice. Three games three wins and the kind of debut for new signing that if it were written in ROY of the Rovers as just a boy, I would have stopped reading and Pendle ever to the editors telling them they've gone too far to whom do I refer Alejandro put Salo decided that he would score two. I kind of goals for Toronto on his debut. The second of which almost made me go full when Harry met Sally. I'll have what she's having. That's the only part of that scene. Where allowed to play you were not. But you know, the scene guys the Yankee was cheeky. The scooped goal was. Yeah. Just so wonderfully rare and beautiful. And if you call it a chip I'm going to drive to your house. I saw you went on Twitter, and you're just berating people. I mean, relax. It's not a chip he has done something that is so wonderfully skillful with zero backlift zero backlift, he scooped it up. Yeah. On over a six foot something goalkeeper into the where he simply kinda get to it. You are right. I saw that. And I it was one of the I think I tweeted off your tweet. What did I just see here? It was like oh you were shocked. Yeah. Here. I was so taken with the performance I had to go and get the highlights. Got new system that I. The. Swallow. Would agree. Josie just put his hands on his head. Did you see him by the post? It was pointed out to be by Mark mccaddon of the Irish star heels. Look at look at outdoors reaction e can't believe what he's seeing. Yeah. You have to go back to I Carol voice, go in your Ninety-six where he's running and instead of shipping it he just lifts it up like that with such strength. And accuracy. Oh, I'm jumping with you. I'm pushing my chips to the middle of the table based on the creative abilities of a cameo from pot sweat for those wondering who is this person. Where did he where was he dropped from like a low drip identified him at Swansea? When he was bought from route Bettez on he was going to be next big thing he made twenty two appearances and did not score. That's onesie on. He's he's made the last few years. He's been with gang. Oh, yeah. He's made one hundred six. Appearances, but already in his first appearance with Toronto. He's left. This impression that I think people are like Vinko who now he was very anxious to get from Gank to Toronto which caused some problems ganked fans. Hung a plastic doll a former player one hundred puts way from a noose. Join. What would it be his final match before running him over with? What was a cardboard train? Very elaborate. Now, he said he couldn't play. What would it be his final match because he had gone back to Spain for a to see someone who is ill or a bereavement remember which but whatever a member of his family now he he was anxious to get to Toronto. And you can see why if he's going to put up performances like that. But yeah, gang fans did not appreciate it for him to come in. And do this with less than a week of training, this this could be fun. Honestly now. It could be fun. It's a lot to hang in tire season on. But I'm willing to push my chips to the middle of the table on call everyone's blow. Well, the other thing that we haven't mentioned yet is that they are undefeated. They've got three wins from three matches. They've only played three matches MLS and no one has ever played the same number of match. No, no, one has the same number of matches. Yeah. Ever. How would you do that? It's impossible. Don't even try even tried to do it. But the fact that that is the case when you know, we know how last season started. Maybe the fact that they're not, you know, CONCACAF Champions League looks like it's like a curse now for some of these top clubs. We'll talk about Atlanta in a moment. But I don't know maybe like unburdened with that just focusing on the league Josie has a new contract. They've brought in now swallow they look I thought you think oh leaving would be a real problem. But so far they've managed to weather that storm I was about to say don't jump to any conclusions. But that's exactly what this is what we're doing. Yeah. You ready for the second conclusion shore Atlanta United f c are this year's Toronto. I'm not jumping to that conclusion me neither I'm gonna keep it simple on this one Atlanta are still creating chances on. Okay. It's terrible start with only one point after four games. But there's enough talent in this team for them to be better. If not as good as last year, they're not going to be as good as last year. What it's worth though, we did say all of these things in our jumped inclusion about Toronto last year. I think it land are even better than Toronto were last year. But Toronto were the greatest team ever symbol last year. How dare you? I think they're going to snap out to the funk. And their managers going to hit on that winning formula. Their fans are getting worried, and I don't know if that's because of the bits because they're spoiled brats. No, they're not they've never had an-and spoiled. They've never had anything other than winning. I think Frank de Boer comes into this job done real. With some skepticism here. One of my favorite, MLS, blogs is the dirty south soccer that plug rob Ussery wrote this. He was talking about the terrible playing conditions last weekend in Columbus were Atlanta. Lost to nil rob writes, the following they'll use it as an excuse for why they're dead last in the east after a month the play the manager will use the conditions as an excuse for why his team has scored only two goals in four league matches all use the rain as an excuse to not put put much effort into this blog post. I'll use the waterlogged field as an excuse to not get called whiny by some idiot on Facebook after giving an honest assessment on why it landing United aren't very good this season. It was all the rain. Columbus fans will use it as. The only had five thousand people there. But it is true. Like the conditions were the same for both teams Atlanta were poor. And that's just one game. They've been poor pretty much for a lot of the Seattle. They they have dealt with some injuries as well. Franko Escobar was hurt. Came back got hurt. Again, Pyrkal is just I mean. A lot in look obviously, losing Miguel is is a huge deal and Greg Garza. So look to me, they're not this year's Toronto. I do believe that at some point. I think they was not out of it. But but it's like the east tough, and they're not coasting to anything. They didn't coast last year. Either the red bulls won the supporters shield, but this is not gonna like they're going to struggle. I think to get into the playoffs. I know the whole spirit of this segment is to jump to conclusions. But or not when I go through their team. It was very difficult for me to jump on top of that one just like Toronto, I will just say this. The manager has got a book his ID's fairly quickly. He is he's bail fit of a reputation both demeanor proclamation and lineup. Frank. It doesn't have to be methodical passing like white just go with what this team is good at which is really really fast counters, really quick passing. You know, everything doesn't have to be the exa kademi ready for the third conclusion on very ready for this somebody written hardy, nothing for home. If you're jumping to this one Carlos villa will win MVP sorry. I predicted this at the start of the season. I'm not changing my mind NS pair of the week for week flav. Andrew a first molest Patrick six goals, which sounds dot sounds just remarkable isn't it through five games games. No reason. He can't keep that. Oh, Ps and ex-employer planning a team that really seems to suit him. And he scored one of his trademark kind of curlers Hughes. Definitely got a goal type of gold. I am actually gonna jump with you. And it's not just the goals that he's. Board. He scored six, but he also leads molest in expected goals. So it's not like a fluke right now that he's leading and goals scored but go deeper than that he also leads Emma lesson chances created with twenty to put that number in perspective, by the way landing United f c have created thirty five as a team. He's created twenty by himself this year, Lordy. He's been phenomenal. L AFC have been great their top of the table right now in the Western Conference is to watch. Yeah. So if they continue to be really good it stands to reason at the end of the year that their best player could be legitimate VP candidate right now. Tim, I forgot. We don't have the drop what you know, messy Betsy. No. We don't have that. But he's inspired him. Yeah. Bob has brought the inner messy. Yeah. You know, Missy Missy. Let's see we continue. Now, the next conclusion. JJ the Portland timbers will miss the playoffs. So you jumping God that is strong. I'll go first if you would like, no, no, I've got a long and winding road to get to my. It's a strong thing to say, but. The goal at the weekend would suggest if plenty of front to win games, but twelve goals conceded in four games, really bad sign Giovanni, severance decide give to penalties against Leandro on. This is key for me. Neither of them should have happened. A Savary see appeared to play with five at the back at the weekend for the first time to season to try and stem, the tide of goals, and it did to an extent, but I'm not convinced by his regular centre-half pairing options, delaying Casse Kante mob, Allah. So I'm going to jump in that you're jumping to the conclusion. I don't think he's got good enough defenders, despite the fact, do you see the gold? Discord was beautiful. Let's see I'm gonna lean on history here a little bit. And I'm gonna I'm gonna not jump. Stay with my feet firmly planted to the ground. Yes. One point from their first four matches bad. But remember j just last year they were winless through their first five and wound up reaching them unless Cup final. Okay. On top of that Diego. Valeri is performing so far the. Season. Fifteen chances created second only to the twenty. We just mentioned from Vella. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna lean on that. I'm gonna lean a little bit on the fact that they've had a pretty tough schedule to start the season. They were the Guinea pig for the Cincinnati match. I mean that was just like being marched out for the sacrifice with with the cauldron. They'd destined was they've played L AFC in LA. They play the galaxy in LA. So it's they had a home game yet. Actually, I don't even think they've played a home game yet because. Yeah, they're renovating their stadium. No, okay. At at Cincinnati at L AFC and at Colorado, which was their draw three three on the road. All that time without a home game. I think so so I'm not going to jump and I'm gonna I'm gonna say that just like last year, you know, they're they're weathered. They've been through this exact situation, though, figure it out last, but not least DC United are the best team in the Eastern Conference. Are you jumping to that conclusion? I'm going. To jump to that. And I'm going I mean to sample size. Good lord. That's what this is. You know, I will jump based on the spine of the team. So you got Bill was a solid keeper Birnbaum in Berlin. Re. I I mean, there are solid MLS centre-half pairing, very solid. You are so demeaning, even when you give out compliments. You can't just say they're a solid defensive Harring can can tie things together in an MLS Dono. He's a good midfielder. But the attack of a cost I reorder Rooney. We're already seen fermentable. Now, I thought that could have been beaten at the weekend, but whatever they won't might potential fly in the ointment for this is an article from the Atlantic Pablo more roses, the Atlantic has learned that as many as five clubs have expressed interest in acquiring cost. According to multiple sources familiar with the situation the interest from at least two clubs from France league on a Saudi club on a mid-table English Premier League side. That's in addition to report it interest from Turkish side Fenerbahce shea, which he had let it has confirmed. That was today. So the hunt for the key player. Probably in this whole attack is still on. And if he gets on settled in the summer. Tries to push remove that could derail things, but I'm jumping for right now. Let's see JJ. I am like you going to jump. I do believe that they're the best team in Eastern Conference. Because here's the scary thing about and we know about Rooney and what he can do Scott four goals the season in four games, by the way, the goal that he scored this past weekend from that angle. While don't think he meant it don't think he meant all I think it's it's too far. I think he's just called a perfectly on its if look it's a great strike. I don't want. You just can't take joy in life. You just can't no now do you remember when he did against stoke, which was farther energy people were comparing them. I definitely think he meant that put the angle and the distance was more favorable if you wanted to be cynical about it. I actually I actually do believe that he meant it. If you wanted to be cynical. I saw Sasha question who was his team was on the receiving end of that. And he tweeted afterwards picture a side by side photos. Of where the foul occurred. Yeah. And where Rooney I mean, if I was on the sideline it was almost from a corner kick position. And and the ball was moved over several feet to give at least now look it was still an ridiculous angle. But it was a more doable score -able angle. But I think it wasn't the score. It wasn't even a score angle as the the I x freekick we saw against Real Madrid that fluent I just think he he's called it perfectly and it's flown in. So we know what they can do an attack what he can do. But kind of what you mentioned the defending JJ the defending they've conceded one goal. So far this season. Bill means been great in that fourteen saves Birnbaum Berlian, formerly Vanua CFC, the Costa Rican defender Joseph Mara and last year, the guy you just talked about Luchino cost was probably the revelation of the season this year. It looks like another DC midfielder is carrying that mantle in junior Merano the Venezuelan he's got three assists already. He's got the league's best tackle success rate at his. Eighty seven percent. There's a nice little Venezuelan pipeline. I feel like developing to analysts with him. Joseph martinez. Look out for Venezuela. Yeah. They're going to be beating us sooner. Because we can't get any players in the league. So yeah, I am. I'm jumping with you DC United best team in these from conference that was before the season my pick. I think to win MLS Cup. So like you with Carlos Valla. Why would I change my opinion on this one now and that is jump to conclusions week you're on caught off size? It would be this Matt that you would put on the floor, and what have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to? I'm ready for the plethora of tweets, you didn't mention the rather. Finally, we we do five, and that's it. All right. We didn't even mention slots on. All right. I mean, and that's yeah. Because we we mentioned a middle from the preview I was just calling him by the way he nearly had one of the goals of the season last weekend. No bicycle that. He hit the post on. It was a flick though, it wasn't a bicycle. Let's go back. There was the move for the that ended up in the penalty. You wanna see how clever he was for the penalty. Knowing crossed the Portland timbers defender. But because he's just come straight through the back of butts Latin is literally just stepped in front of him and thought you're gonna buy me over he's won it. But it was really nice move. What to watch for JJ CAF Champions League, first leg, Thursday, ten o'clock, Monterey and sporting, Kansas City sporting Kansas City, come in flying seven one win over the weekend. Sometimes we wonder sporting KC. They're usually good in the back. But can they can they score? Yes. They can score goals. Yeah. It gets bent that question's been answered. Yes. And and one of the goals of the week, and was absolutely brilliant. From the their Scottish, man. Yeah. They have eleven goals through their first four molest games. Now granted seven will help there. But yeah. So first leg tomorrow night EPL back for more a wise man once saying Friday, three o'clock PM Southampton and Liverpool Liverpool now looking to jump back over Manchester City, and so it goes, and so it goes care to comment of nothing to say about this Kim, except I would you won't. Liverpool are expected to win this one. But on ously with the way, the season has gone. It's going to be another. It's going to be another tense game. I don't see Liverpool blowing them away tuna Liverpool. I would say, but I don't know everything is just so fraught right now. See I the minute. I saw that Cardiff gone one little just are sorry, man. City gone wounded open card of the way, it's back on. Oh, yeah. It's just it's flip flop. It's is there any end to this other is the end of the season. We'll be champions, right? Sunday nine. Oh, five AM Everton and arsenal. This is Arsenal's chance to go back a head of Spurs as the to kind of volley back and forth right now for third and fourth. Now, really all things equal. I mean. Yeah, you wanna finish above your archrival? But I guess the ones that you have to be more concerned with are the ones below the two of them like Monday at three o'clock Chelsea as they will host West Ham West Ham, who's defending has been so bad as we talked about earlier this week and Chelsea who today looked like maybe they were starting to find it a little bit in attack scored three goals. I wonder I don't know if Hudson annoy will start again, I think sorry said he would start one of these two. To either the mid week one that they had today against Brighton or the West Ham one. So I don't know. But I didn't either or for him. I don't know won't get if I don't know I'll tell you. That could be tricky for west time their season is is petering into something. Like, you know, we've obviously gained a few western followers from last year's investigation into the pitch invasion. I regularly see them on Twitter and their complaints are beginning to reach kind of a fever pitch on you just wonder what's the direction with West Ham? How sour note is this season to end on. Yeah. Let's see JJ FA Cup semifinals this weekend. Saturday, twelve thirty Manchester City and Brighton as Manchester City keep their quest alive for the quad. Keep going gonna keep calling it the quad. What do you call it? The all right Sunday eleven AM watt furred and wolves one note on wolves that I was reading earlier today role Jimenez, he's been on lone wolves from then fica this season. But it looks like that move is about to become permanent. Forty million dollars is what's being discussed. Simply put he has been tremendous for them this season fifteen goals in all competitions twelve goals, eight assists in league play including an assist yesterday against Manchester United. He's been I don't know at the end of the year. This is with very little thought. But you know, in our divinely, we'll talk about the signing the season off the top of my head. I don't I don't know that I would say he would win that. But I do believe like if he would be among the nominees. Oh, absolutely. He's an unbelievable season thick the who would have the fact that they've locked him in no at this point. And that I mean 'cause obviously other teams are going to be looking at him. The fact that they've locked in is brilliant ahead of next season. Actually, I'm thinking about who has actually been a better sign. Running this year than him. There weren't a ton of like really marquee signings. I feel like I'm sure we're for summer someone right? I'm sure we are. You're right. I have I truly haven't given it any thought. But just looking at like, look, okay. Look at the teams above wolves city Liverpool Spurs arsenal. Chelsea United can't imagine. It's anyone on United. Who would it be on Chelsea Stephanie anyone? Yeah. No one. No one from Liverpool. Obviously, no one from Tottenham. They didn't sign anyone arsenal. Tarare? I don't think you would say better than role Jimenez, no Manchester City, if you wanna to make the argument sign an Emory know that you don't want doesn't count talking about. I it might actually be him. This is fascinating. We think a little bit more about this. We're going to give it a good long thing. Oh think let's see JJ. We bring it down the stretch now red card JJ, I do believe that we actually share a red card this week. Yes. Oh, should we approach this? Well, I guess I'll explain the situation, and then you can fill it in. Okay. All right are red card is a kind of a joint red card to Leonardo Banou Chee and max Allegra both of you Ventas. And here's why guessing you've probably read about this or on Twitter or heard about it. But Mojca Ken. Of event is had endured monkey chants from calorie fans, then scored in the eighty fifth minute and stood in front of the calorie home supporters with his arms out almost basking in the abuse following the game. But Nucci said the following quote Ken knows when he scores a goal. He has to focus on celebrating with his teammates. He knows he could have done something differently to there were racist. Jeers after the goal plays tweedy heard it and was angered I think the blame is fifty fifty because Moise shouldn't have done that. And the Curva the fans should not have reacted that way. We're professionals. We have to set the example and not provoke anyone max Allegra the manager echoed a similar sentiments saying, quote, he shouldn't have celebrated in that manner. He's a young man, and he asked to learn but certain things from the crowd. Also shouldn't be heard. Oh, my I can't believe how craven spineless the responses have been from Bucci and from Allegra. I mean, this is disgraceful that they would not in this moment. Get behind their young extremely talented player like leg ry prior to that game. He said he wasn't going to start Cain because he was worried about the hype train that has already forming behind this young talent. He had an unbelievable window for the Italian national team. He's one of the great hopes of talian football for Allegra then to play him. And then allow. Are some house? In in somewhere to chastise him for the way, he celebrated. I mean have you listened to the to the videos and to the taste of the game? It's foul. It's absolutely disgusting. Boys. It can is the low to celebrate and any fashion he wants if he's going to ensure that join the game. Now, I know there was tweedy wanted to take to go off one of the to leave the field. I know Kia Leany complained to the referee before Benicio Allegra to take this lying after the game. I is just disgraceful and they are receiving the correct opprobrium from around the football word from Ryan Starling. Who else? I have. I have lines here from Tory props to him. He was speaking yesterday. I guess while at right after this happened he happened to be speaking at a panel discussion at UEFA is equal gain conference on Wednesday. And he said quote for me, it's a disgrace. You can't do that. I think it's the worst scenario you can have in football your teammate, attacking you saying things like that. It's just unbelievable. I can't imagine how hurt he was when he saw that the Elliott ery. Then called out the Italian FA specifically saying I want to know if the Italian FA is here today when it was confirmed Italian FA Representative was present or a Representative from the Italian FA. Was there Torri at it? I wanna see what the Italian FA is going to do about that. It's really important because this is what we're fighting for. I wanna see what the response is asked whether players should walk off the pitch following racist abuse. Tori added. Yes, definitely. When this kind of thing happens, we need to send a message not only to the fans, but the people at the top. Well, something has to be done because we're tired of always coming back to the same problem long. As those people in the stands are in the stands the people in government. And at the top don't decide anything it's still going to happen. What are we going to do continue to come here and talk and talk with nothing being done? So finally Representative for the Italian FA was almost kind of forced into saying something it wasn't the president. Like, I said it was just a Representative. They said, of course, we are very sorry for what happened last night. Unfortunately, our CEO is not here. But we are doing the best to tackle this issue. Typically, the response you you expect from from people in government in Italy in governance both in sport on an actual governance. So there's a piece by Angela Jia free in the observer from last February priority the Italian election. So we're always talking about the, you know, the social context for these things and the headline is Italy used to be tolerant country, but no racism is rising. The upcoming election has unleashed tight of anti-migrant action. Whose roots can be traced to the financial crisis and the country's weakened left wing. No that election. So big wins for populous FireEye parties who are known government. Let's go back to December. This is from Bleacher report Italian Deputy, Prime minister Mattio Salvini has attempted to downplay racist abuse directed at Napoli defender, caldo Kubilay by a section of Inter Milan. Fans as healthy teasing. Monkey chance could be heard at the San Siro joined Napoli's one nil defeat leaving cooler Bali visibly upset before second caution in the eighty first minute saw him sent off however in an appearance on ticky tack on Thursday Salvini said I expect answers from the land police chiefs because evidently something didn't work there were some criminals who came from abroad to Seoul, violence racism is the stuff of idiots in two thousand eighteen but let's not put everything in the same pot in the stadiums. They also sing Milan. Inflames would that be racism to? But Nucci was booed by the Milan fans is that racism healthy teasing among fans is not to be considered racism. So there this. Kinda Lassie fair. Acceptance of racism amongst the very top of Italian society. Are we should way we shocked anymore about this stuff? And Italy forget about the politics of the situation. We are regularly reporting about stuff that goes on in the terraces of Italian football. Yeah. Here's here's a shocker Hislop on ESPN FC talking about Banou cheese. Comments way, a play over Nucci. Standing event is comes out and victim blames a player young player like moisture can in in that mono. You see why their problems within Syria double that with the commencement bay? Jalili the Calgary president. About he shouldn't celebrate like that. And if it was developed the recess abuse. Bazaar. And what does it imposing resists within within these tons on? Then those who may be willing to stand up and say something about it on no force into the shadow. He sold. Right. Dot is the perfect decision. What's happened there that cling to signals from Banou chea-? It's so bad. It's it's ready slow the wrong message. And like, I say it publicly. I dunno is really it was honestly just really disappointed. Remember, having a conversation ones about this on someone saying to me know? A white person. Like me to not stand up for someone who is being richly abused in that moment, unto do the right thing. Just makes things so much worse. You are defacto. You may not have being the person who racially abused Moise king book, the Nucci is day. Facto lending, a kind of a credence to it now to give him his Jew. He came on Instagram to say that racism is wrong in all its forms. But it's too late. The moment to do it was when he was speaking after the game unto speak out in the strongest terms, you there's no halfway house on this. There's no as he said himself fifty fifty there isn't it's wrong. Totally wrong. No easy. Transition transition from that JJ. No, there is really everything's frivolous. Caught off sides man of the match having said that the format is the format. We must respect it. I will go. I if you don't mind, I get my men and that Tyler Adams JJ over the weekend. He had one of the assists of the season in the boondocks league. Here's what it sounded like on f s to here's. Closing plenty of running room on the chat. Os x my nigga. Tricks. It was very nice finish from Palsson, but a cyst from Adams. I mean, it was a ball that he played probably what would you say? That pass was like a fifty yard pass sixty yard pass. Just like, he he hurriedly waited. He was on the sideline in his own half and just halfway in his own half. Yeah. What I mean? Just dug out the pass between two defenders of more than two defenders like superb field again deceased pirated for him. But he still had to find it. And the way the ways of the past was what struck me it was fantastic in the last eight games. Add that Adams played for life. They've won seven with one draw. They have not lost. They've scored eighteen goals conceded, just once he's helped personally with two assists in his nine games total. He's got an eighty one percent pass. Accuracy, three and a half tackles per ninety minutes. You know, the website who scored dot com. Yes, they do like player ratings. They've got their form ratings for players under twenty one in Europe's top five leaks averages together their ratings over the previous six. Appearances they released their most recent under twenty one form rating on April first, so just the other day Adams is fifth in that list. Botha's as one Jaden Sancho to Leon Bailey of Leverkusen his three Adams teammate Ebrahim cannot day is four and then Adams is fifth in Europe's top five leagues in form ratings recently under twenty one to about hitting the ground running. And he's the difference. He's only just got there. Right. Like, he's hit the ground. He's new to the league already. He's making this impact, by the way, some of the players below him on that list. Aaron been wha Sokha from Crystal Palace, Charlton your -til amounts Adams ahead of all those guys in the inner twenty one four ratings at who scored dot com. So this is this is good play him center. Mid don't bother with this. Right back centre made still I'm starting to agree. I wonder and this is like. To say this now like at the end of the podcast that just like throw this out there and run away. But like right now, if we're talking about American soccer players, he's the the best one in the world at the moment. I know our instinct is always Pule secure. But yet he's not getting games the way that Adams's and the pains make it makes us hire to give him that. If you don't play Adams did miss Leipzig's Cup win yesterday Okla with a an Dr muscle issue. I don't believe it's serious. So hopefully, he'll be able to come right back. But that is something to monitor. So. Yeah. Profit him while this is great. What do you got? I'm not going to that Fulham follow the league without giving somebody in that organization. Some praise Ryan Babel was from opted Joel has been directly involved in five league goals. Three goals and two assists for Fulham since making his debut in January more than double that of any team. It. Ryan bobble is fast becoming one of my favorite kind of comeback stories. No, he's being a professional footballer and travel the world. But what's interesting about Ryan Baba's this? Andrea. First of all is there any other sport in the world? No is there any other area of life sport being the that area life or you can say a someone didn't fulfil his potential that can talk about their life in the manner that we talk about a wasted talent waste of life. All look what he coulda done like we project what we want from these people so hard that it kind of makes us forget that they have had fulfilling lives, they have had don't amazing things. He spoke to the observer in January about his early career in England. Bobble is honest and open about his experiences at Liverpool scored twenty two goals and nearly a hundred and fifty appearances before leaving in twenty seven for Hoffa Heim he'd become increasingly marginalized under Benitez, Roy Hodgson, and Kenny Dalglish and feels the club failed to manage his development correctly. After he moved at the age of twenty I said in earlier interviews, maybe I should have stayed one or two more years in Holland. I had been living with my parents. So it was the first time living. Abroad by myself. There are a lot of things coming at you at the same time different country, different culture. You're basically by yourself, and you have to make sure you deal with it as good as possible that wasn't the case with me. And he goes on about his current moment in his career. And I felt this was really a good way to look at it to be honest. I'm not really making decisions that are stereotypical to what people normally expect. I like to explore the world. He says from every little territory of being I've picked something up things that I could use to better my game to take with me and the rest I left behind. We've got this very linear look at how a player on a person's life can map out and be created and also come to its peak. Now, he's thirty two that's not old that might be old for footballer. But that's he's young man. Look at all the things he's done in his life. He's probably going to get a move to mid or lower table, primarily club. If they're seen his performance or go on somewhere else and an another partner life hats off to him. Yeah. Totally agree, man. I called it a weird signing when I saw was. But look at him. He's back. The Dutch national team we all peak at different times in our lives. We all do certain things at different times in our life. We we're sold linear narrow both the way things should happen for players people. We don't know Greg call Greg call props to him because you're right. It's he has been kind of a lone bright spot, and he's only kind of just gotten their himself, which Rodman hair, I know. I know maybe next off as North Korea. So there you go that is caught off side for this week couple podcasts. Very good podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. I really enjoyed doing. I felt good about them. Yeah. I didn't lend much to the to watch for I've become sorry. But I've become so singularly focused. It's now in what I'll it's just no see the next game. I focus in on it. And then I think to myself, right. Three points in that one. Maybe sitting drop something here. I stopped thinking about other parts league fair enough. I get that. I mean, sure it's a podcast that is focusing on all kinds of things not just Liverpool. But you know, if you wanna do your thing. I'll handle the rest, I suppose give me permission. Well, hey, this was fun. My friend to you say. Ticker. Listening to cod off side soccer podcast.

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Tottenham vs Man United Preview

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Tottenham vs Man United Preview

"Hello there. Welcome to the show of busy weekend in the Premier League, and that spy gate drama and the championship in England to get to today in the company of Allah hundred major navy, Steve Nicol, Craig Burley hair. Stuart Robson is all too with us on board from London and Stewart we will start shit with the Premier League standings because this weekend features talk team in London. Taking on the second top team in Manchester. According to the Premier League's thing Spurs and mentioned the United third and six heading into that clash at Wembley on Sunday. What they've done in the last four games was being low winds for wins full for Manchester. United three wins at of four the Spurs. The feet, of course, present reverse at home to wolves in a lot of attention upon this fixture. Regla people looking forward to it. In many ways, a litmus test perhaps for Manchester United the new majesty United. Well, certainly the biggest test that shows house hod because the teams that played in the main of being struggling teams and pretty comfortably. So there's no says there if as long as it's not the Tottenham team that lost to wolves efforts taught him say of plead. Any of the other four or five games recently? Then is going to be a heck of a test. What's it whole if you can call the home? So yeah, I would say a Nassir test for the current. What would I say getting carried away crowd? Puts the feel-good factor is being rising in the week fee United they within six points of the top four Stevie buying while they selling just yet. So we don't need to see this game. No absolutely has done this game. And I think the best thing, but this game is the plenty shade who who are very complete and Havana, very strong in every department the the previous four games of hard being against team to who Isla defend well or triangle forward, so this is a test that they've been waiting to get. We absolutely will what they're all about your mind to say United you take this game in a different manner and approach in a different manner than you did whenever just your was around because at the very least you feel that you have an opportunity to win. When winning your was around and the feeling within the locker room used showed up to this game knowing that more than likely you're going to lose and that you're going to struggle, and you're not gonna create chances and that you're going to struggle to keep possession of the ball. And you're going to have. Ficus defensively and is going to be a frustrating after noon, you knew that even before you stepped on the field now, whether that's against inferior position or not. There is a vibe about Manta United this far more positive that far more optimistic and allows them to very lease perform at a higher potential. And if that's the case, they give themselves that I don't think they had before shoe. What's your sense of this heading into the clash at Wembley United being away? Some nice sunny weather training in in Dubai spruce. Maybe a little fatigued game against Chelsea on Tuesday. What's your sense? Go with alley. There's a good field factor about matching individuals a plan with a lot more confidence because that's being the changing manage it. So shows done the right thing he's played up to the crowd a little bit. He's put up front because that's what the crowd wanted was back in the side that flying with the system that's fairly straightforward. But everybody's playing that little bit better. And they could catch him on a bad. I as they showed against wolves. But if imply the very best song starts running in behind, and Harry kind coming show Lincoln with each other midfield runners go like fullback tight Spurs still the favorites to win this game on a still a quality side. And a better side. The mentioned no matter how well socials them. Forget three zero early on in the season. Yeah. Try oh was. There was big problems which go waltz still. It was a convincing victory to go back to your rose point on who's says last game before he leaves for the Asian Cup. He's been on fire. Recently daily alley who's been making some great runs soco who's been in the form of his life. Young young young ish higher wages commend and staling job there, if they stops taught them, I think they will they will win the game because the pace they play out as definitely wall. United faced in recent weeks such a begin United this. And I'll tell you why. Because the two teams above them that all this talk of it. You know, United can push full no taught them to beat them. The gaps going to be here because awesome face waste time away. Okay. That's a little tricky. But chokes at home to Newcastle Chelsea Lord and forgetting Osma win against Newcastle home, and my United lose the GOP nine points to four Spall that's dead and buried. Losing. And it goes not way. It's great to have feel good Pfizer completely. Definitely you step on on the field against property. And there's grit is feels when things are going. Well, it can very quickly come crashing down. We talked about this a little bit yesterday, Marcus rash forgiven. The insurance by social that. He is now going to spearhead the United. We saw the potential tape. Take surprise absolutely agree on a percent think. He I think he should have been the spearhead from the from the get-go. Lukac who've. Lukac if you'll planning is Lukac, you you knew exactly what you're going to get when you play against Russia. You don't know what you're going to get. You don't aware is movements. Fantastic. Playing kaku. You know as old times rush? Fold gives sent box a nightmare because they don't know where he is is coming from different angles. He's coming Shaw run behind absolute nightmare for Santa. But any surprise gray? Look. Marine you'll use the brigand Fellini off the bench event mkaku, and he won't wanna hear and it's a lot of money. But I think for United Lowcock coming off the bench is a ninety Lonzo Fulham because I don't find longtime many of us think is the answer leading the lion from Marcus rash ver- now that he's been given this vote of confidence it has to be a vote of confidence that less is it can't be that a couple of bad games. And now of look was back in if you if you're so skyer, and and this is what you're saying. This is my number one. Then treat him as a number one gave him a long run allow him to do the things that he can do all the movement that you're talking about. He's his finishing has improve getting more consistent allow him to become the player that he can be don't say, well, you're my number one for now. And it may just change if things if things don't go your way on a short leash Stu, I'm here is a keen observer of the game. It's the Robeson. There's the better strike if he'll money yet heads up. Well rested is got more by sees better movement. I still think he's got to learn the game. But I was the front mkaku is certainly limited in what he can do. Good in the air a good box player when crosses come into the box. But he's link-up play his movement hasn't been anywhere near as good as as being in the last few weeks. So I'd go with rush Mott. But he's still got a lot to learn to be a top quality player as always especially for mister Berlet. We do a combined eleven when when when we. A big games. And look it's it's heavily dominated by Spurs by four three of the outfield. Pledged only belonging pictures to Manchester United. They get the known in the in the coaching department to Eddie quibbles guys with. I would see what's the one would change would be shown. I would plead rush this show. Yeah. Yeah. I mean can Canaan Russia the great partnership with sewn? Kane haven't had a good partnership, but I would just age Russia though, not one therapy. No more prolific producers of goals in this since Josie Marino's sang than sawn and poke them. Talk to produces in England any quibbles not at all the best park by this to be in any starting eleven the issue with full has been and he has some responsibility. This that we haven't seen the best of him consistently now car, everybody's dancing. Everybody's happy. Celebrating scoring goals. He's a box of bucks player that we saw Juventus, and we appreciate it in France. And in the World Cup that virtual belongs in any starting living. It's always interesting to see what the odds makers make any big encounter. This is what we have you Spurs the favorites. Just just above even money yet on the twenty two win mentor. She ninety two almost three to one sinus to go to Wembley and win at a win would be the first one they've notched away from home against since the Alex Ferguson era up the onus. I I really find the automakers very exciting. There you go. You know, I don't think he's rocket science to to to know that taught them our favorites him. But I don't know. But the boys account enjoyed watching United play recently with with a smile and freedom get on the bandwagon of this is going to be the next month. John, even if the beat Tottenham, and even if they go in a great role, not just I just can't buy it. Because it's such a big job such a big overhaul, and whilst grit in the moment. And everybody's Hoppy. And the plane will the played an annoy you play beat was put in front of you with the plates teams, they have played some bad teams. So I expect them with a new manager. And the new Mylan Judah fakes and Hoppy come an aggressively manager who is causing problems going. I would expect the reaction stay the Spurs. Haven't won three straight against mentioned since nineteen sixty. So. The. Well, you know, you you, shall we will boost boosting male, and we argue with really did. One guy. Really been living one guy in the bottom lane is regardless of who will mind gestion anything have been pleading recently month-on-month bunk for pound close to to be as good as Tottenham. So there's no way you could mind United one game bookmaker, so you taking suppose obsolete. It makes me really nervous where need so very clear Spurs. Yeah. Officially said that I wouldn't make Spurs in any of this matches. And yet you can't turn away from right? I I'm doing really I'm going with her. Even a gallon spoils on a performance tomorrow as a big if if the on performance in his shoe and getting amongst goes, again the net would wanna know of Tottenham funds. Don't want to hear it. But it be sitting in this don's wait, a not could just hiting Hatan the the. The go ahead to try and get this money and as a manager because you'll be sitting watching I hunt shoo it. You get the get the laws vote on this one. I think we've had three Spurs. Well, I'm not going to change the situation took them if they play well enough they're going to win the game quite comfortably there. But it saying the Mets United outstanding manager they got some outstanding players sonar think will have a top club quality guy. And he's lost before he goes away. They're going to win the game by a couple of goals to nil. All right. Nobody asked me if I think it's gonna be a drool suppose Joe yet drawing because I have a jewel sooner or later. Schedule for you. Now the failed Ligi ninety beating Dombi candy Hsun ill. Stay chop off the championship on course, for turn to the Premier League Dombi county staying in the playoff places, but all of that overshadows would have happened in the build up to the game accusations of spying coast lead spending, sending by two counties training field, basically saying, yes, I did it. I spy says the spy who came in from Ellen road. And he was. Straightforward about his middle saying, it's true. That was someone from leads the responsibility for this is me, I didn't behave. Well, I'm responsible for it. Because I didn't ask for permission to do it. Okay. Without trying to find a justification using this kind of practice since the qualifications for the World Cup with Argentina two thousand two by the way. It's not illegal. We'd be doing it publicly. We talk about an independent for some people. It's the wrong thing the others. It's not well Franklin was asked about this trying to kick off in leaps. If we're gonna start talking about coach Leon did it somewhere else. And it was fine. Then that doesn't work for me. We were trying to die before the game on Tim tactics team shape, personal. How are we going to press gonna work off the boat? And the Harry Wilson was in China move become very evidence of the person who is watching all of that. And if if somebody wants to side of that's not relevant to the guy, and then I think tactics relevant and how you prepare then that means pep Guardiola pushy. The great manages then they're just lucky because if preparation and tactics are not part of the game. And if they're not quite cycle that you can work and your training ground. Then I think they're lucky manages because it must be. The league not received an official complaint. Is yet. Will you be making an official complaint because he's so that was this league to to to see how to deal with it. Obviously, it's not just Arba county. We had somebody the die before our first game against them. Which was for one. Now leads can be for one. They're fantastic team. We had someone in the bushes twice as a now do anything about that. The man was also lead. But he wasn't. It wasn't followed up like it has been this. Someone in the Bush. Camouflage subterfuge in the championship. TV any any sympathy with Franklin Pont and his plans. Account obviously here. Now, you the, you know. Working on your shape and whoever's gonna play and all matzos but visit. Much. And I think the most important thing. Frank said there was a cultural thing clearly be also wherever else he's being accepted skuldugge