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To All The Girls I've Loved Before

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To All The Girls I've Loved Before

"The podcast discusses domestic violence criminal behavior. Murder and adult themes while not explicit. Listener discretion is advised. Apprehension nodded up Catherine Terry's insides on the drive over Snoqualmie pass. It was late November nineteen ninety nine. Catherine's boyfriend Dennis was at the wheel of his Mitsubishi Galant heading west towards Seattle. Rain pounded the windshield. Making our dec- the mountain road. The white or swept back and forth. What seemed to frantic speed Catherine was ready for the drive to be over? But she wasn't looking forward to what awaited her in Seattle. Her ex boyfriend Josh Powell, it'd be so good be sweet and loving. And then if things aren't going as way not so much Katharine data Josh long before he became the subject of a murder investigation. In fact, the story she's about to tell happened almost exactly ten years before Susan Powell vanished. She's never told it to anyone aside from friends and family, not police now reporters, not anyone, and I do wonder in the back of my mind. I'm like, I wonder if docile that I would be service blow his full cover that. I'm just like I don't wanna deal with him. I don't want to deal with repercussions of EMC key, his family on me, I found Catherine by scouring thousands of files recovered from Josh's, computer. He mentioned her by name only a couple of times having intentionally erased almost every trace of her from his journals, Catherine broke her silence with me for the very first time. But back to the story in a member of ninety nine Catherine hadn't yet told her new boyfriend Dennis much about Josh she'd only told him Josh had been very controlling. Yeah. I just like I didn't realize at the time. Of course, how isolated I had become. I think I'd built it in my mind that I was happy. Things can only get better and eventually get married and things it'd be better after that. It was after noon before they made it to Seattle, but already starting to get dark. They found a hotel a few miles north of downtown Catherine called Josh to arrange a time and place to meet. She broken up with him over the phone months earlier in March during a trip home to Utah. Or anything like that? He's just really quiet and she say, okay. What do you wanna do your stuff? And I'm like, well, go ahead and stick it in storage. And I will I'll come up and get it. So that's what Josh had done. In the meantime, she'd met Dennis they'd fallen in love. Katherine knew she needed to go back to Washington at some point to get her stuff. Once you call Josh to let him know she was coming up in November. She told him her fiance would be with her, but Dennis and Catherine weren't actually engaged. It was better than we told them that we're engaged instead of Otis's might you know, because then like insert dos. Let me see if I can break this up. Josh insisted he needed to see Katherine that very night. He said he wanted to give her a pass to the Pacific science center. Remember telling him, I don't one is it by American drop it off any ways. But no, I really I really think it was his way of checking out situation Joshua up at the hotel about eleven PM. He knocked on the door. It's swung open revealing tall broad shouldered men. Dennis. Every I stood in the doorway six one. He was about five ten. Lots more than I am I stood in the doorway. Like, this is just taking over my shoulder. Like kenniston on her tiptoes peeking over my shoulder now like, hey, taking in the whole conversation. Yeah. Josh's is grew wide. He said will you must be Dennis. And he was he's being all cool, and cordial didn't seem anything like what you describe to me. It's still I didn't know half the stuff that I would find out came out later Josh handed over the science center pass as promised, then he and Catherine agreed to make the hand off of her belongings. The next day we're going to get back to Dennis and Catherine in just a little bit. I though we need to talk about Josh Josh had a long history of failing to connect with girls. His written journals are full of entries about struggles. In dating his audio journals or even more telling here, he is in his own voice, reacting to one rejection such a good friend. Didn't want it. And I know you're in a better place. So broke my heart. Your brother? He replaced my broken heart with incredible joy, greatest chilly. You taught me so much where I want to. And especially how to take care of me. And also, I am a new I want to be act never met. Oh. They didn't take. Three years. But prince left in my arteries. They're here to stay. Thing you so hard and yet how could I be so? To ask for more than you giving me which was more. I ever. You're my best friend. This is cold episode one to all the girls I've loved before. I'm Dave Cali. Let me take just a second. Hear that voice. You just heard belonged to Josh Powell he recorded that sometime in nineteen ninety nine part of a series of audio journals. He kept during his early twenties. Those recordings have never been made public until now it's almost a foregone conclusion that Josh killed his wife Susan in December of two thousand and nine he told police he had taken their two boys out for a desert camping trip in a blizzard after midnight when they returned the next afternoon. Susan was nowhere to be found. Her body has never been located. Nearly two years later as police closed in Josh killed himself and his sons. This podcast is the result of an investigation. Spanning more than three years and five western states. It's involved. The review of tens of thousands of pages of police reports warrants emails, social worker, notes, psychological evaluations, personal journals and more everything you're going to hear has been carefully sourced where possible I will bring you the actual voices of the people who are involved in some cases narrators will stand in for the key players. We've identified three themes in this investigation. I Susan did see warning signs but chose to ignore them. She likes so many women stayed in an abusive relationship why we can learn from her experience second. It seemed obvious to almost everyone that Josh killed Susan yet police never arrested him. Why not we're going to dissect the investigation to find those missed opportunities in third. Why did Josh do what he did to answer that question? We have to look deep into his past. And at the manipulative father who helped mold his monstrous actions. Stephen Theresa Powell gave birth to their second child their first boy on January twentieth of nineteen seventy six little Josh had an older sister, Jennifer and was soon followed by a younger brother, John when Josh turned five he decided he hated his kindergarten teacher because she failed his finger painting Steve Powell baptized Josh into the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints when Josh turned eight even though Steve wasn't worthy to perform the right or to hold the church's priesthood Steve zone journals, which I've read and an outline for his autobiography confirm. He had secretly gone apostate by that point. Stephen Terry had bought a relatively spacious twenty seven hundred square foot home in Spokane Washington suburb, Avera, Dale it's out on a one acre lot giving their kids plenty of space to play that was even more important as they added another child to the mix. Michael Josh, attended Franklin elementary school. He was. Bright kid who developed a love for robots remote controlled toys, electronics architecture in the fourth grade, he figured out all by himself. How to calculate the volume of the school sandbox the next year, he explained long division to a friend even though no one had actually taught him how to do it yet. Josh struggled with school, especially math. He didn't do well with the structure of the classroom. Life at home wasn't great either. When Josh was in the fifth grade, his mom discovered. A secret journal Steve had been keeping Steve written hundreds of pages about the wife of another man. The journal entries represented two years of Steve's explicit sexual fantasies about that woman. Terry confronted her husband about the journal Steve said if the woman's husband were to die. He would take her in as a plural wife razor kids Terry was eight months pregnant with her youngest child Alina at the time in divorce papers filed years later, she would claim she feared Stephen tended to bump off the other woman's husband in order to live out his fantasies. Steve showed no remorse for the hurt. He had caused but promised to change when Terry threaten to leave him from the outside. The Powell still looked like the typical latter day Saint family. They went to church on Sundays did stuff together. Steve though decided to feed his kids some decidedly different beliefs. He told the boys people were just animals and should be able to have sex with anyone at anytime. He also kept porn magazines in the house worse yet he found himself attracted to his oldest daughter. Jennifer, many years later Steve would write about those feelings in his journal. I remember many times sitting at the breakfast bar in our home when she would come into the kitchen in the morning dressed in a T shirt and panties. That would drive me nuts. We went on a trip. One time just the two of us, and she wandered around our hotel room and nothing more than a bra aunties. Steve wanted to tear Jennifer away from the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints when she became a teen. And he told her that shirts scripture, the book of Mormon was false Terry found out about that conversation and was so upset she moved out of the house when I was about fourteen my mom pulled me aside, and she had a conversation with me. And she said look at this path that your father is going on. Look at the path that our savior wants you to go on the gospel will lead you down. Compare them. What do you want to end up? Jennifer told me that was a turning point. That was the moment where I finally made a hardened fast decision. I didn't want to be like my dad, I could see that he was going down the wrong path, and he was making some bad choices in he was treating his family badly intriguing my mother badly, and I didn't wanna be like that the other kids were younger and more impressionable Josh discovered a love for the boy scouts. He reveled. Earning merit badges and enjoyed going on camp outs with his troop. Steve didn't like it. Because the troupe was sponsored by the church, he mocked his son until Josh in. Shame quit. Steve also sought out other anti Mormons. He had left the church, and he was actively fighting against it. He was writing for anti LBS magazines and was campaigning big time in his own little ways against the church. And so and he was. Doing this with his children too. When Michael turned eight and became eligible to be baptized. Steve refused the family turmoil. Took a toll on Josh divorce court records show that around nineteen eighty nine when Josh was thirteen. He threatened his mom with a butcher's knife. He also killed his four year old sister Alina pet gerbils then made her touch their blood. Even worse Terry said she wants Josh John examining. Josh even tried to hang himself when he was fourteen the suicide attempt left him with a rope firm on his neck, Terry pushed him into counseling. Stephen Terry tried to work out their marriage. They entered counseling, Terry, moved back, home and things did seem to get better for time. But it didn't last one night. Jennifer was working on a project using the family sewing machine it took longer than she expected. So she decided to return to the next morning her brother John wanted to use the sewing machine that night. Steve started to tear Jennifer's work out of the machine when she protested he smacked her in the face. Around this time Josh became involved with the youth folk dance group called silver Spurs, he met a girl named Sarah. There they spend a lot of time together in the spring of nineteen ninety two after Josh turned sixteen for the most part. It was just innocent teenage stuff. They have long talks and snuck out of their homes at night to hang out together. Sarah was a couple of years older. She thought of Josh like a kid brother his intentions skewed more to the romantic, he pressured her to be his girlfriend, Sarah explained in no uncertain terms. She was not interested not only that she'd be leaving at the start of summer moving to Wyoming with her mom, it didn't make sense to start a relationship, but Josh persisted one day shortly before Sarah left, he kissed her. She didn't like it, but hoped that by letting it happen. Josh would let her go gracefully one night in may Josh wanted to attend a youth. Get together at church Steve refused in grounded him. Josh. Anyway that night he wrote his dad a letter explaining he intended to move out and live in his car. You say that I probably be more unhappy. But I'm going to find out. I think it's going to work out. Maybe we can be better friends this way, drostan stay out of the house for long that summer. He got a job working at a neighborhood car wash one day while on shift money went missing from one of the cars, Josh war. He didn't take it. But even his own dad. Josh was fired. It was the first of what would turn out to be of lifetime failures in business. Josh could tell something was wrong. He looked over his dad from the passenger seat of the car. Steve didn't look like himself. He seemed preoccupied distant. The car rolled up progress road past homes with Halloween decorations taped into the windows. Have you mom been talking about divorce? Again, he asked the question hung in the air the car kept moving north toward I ninety in the Spokane river she filed for divorce today. Steve replied that answer flattened Josh like a punch from prizefighter. He knew his parents relationship was bad. But he wasn't privy to all of the dirty details of his father's private life. He went to school that day going through the motions while attempting to process, what is dad had said a bitterness started to grow. He wondered why is mom would do such a thing. The only reason he could think of was her religion. When Josh returned home from school that afternoon, he found his mom and uncles sitting in the living room the Bishop of their latter day Saint ward their congregation was there as well. Your dad, and I are getting a divorce, and I'm keeping the house. Terry said, she told her oldest son. He was welcome to. Living there, but would have to abide by some new rules. She handed him sheet of paper, no swearing or crude talk. No R rated movies curfew at eleven pm at the bottom. Josh read, if you break any of these rules, mom reserves, the right to throw you out a rising sense of fury made his hands shake Terry wanted him to sign the paper indicating he understood Josh looked around the room from his mom to his burly uncles to the Bishop. I don't care about your rules because I'm living with dad. He said then Josh ran up the stairs to his bedroom. I don't care where I live. I'm not living with you. He shouted Josh left. The house that evening with his brother, John they were going to a friend's birthday party as they walked out the door. Terry warned her boys to be backed by eleven Josh said, they wouldn't be able to do that. You'd better be backed by then or the doors may just be locked Terry said, Josh resented, his mother's newfound sense of thirty. He had no intention of a biting by her curve. Few he and John caught bus uptown as the party started to wind down that night. Josh began to wonder whether or not the threat has mom had made actually bore any teeth at ten thirty. He called home to ask if the door would actually be locked by the time, he made it home. Why don't you just come home? And we'll see Terry said. Well, I guess I won't come home. Then Josh that and slammed down the phone. He didn't go home that night or the next day. Instead he crashed with a friend for a few days. His dad finally tracked him down through tears Steve told Josh he'd been worried sick Steve said, he'd rented an apartment, Jennifer, Michael and Alina, we're still home with Terry. But fifteen year old John was living with him. Steve wanted Josh to come stay in the apartment as well. Josh agreed Steve did not take the divorce gracefully. He lashed out Terry. In court filings, calling her a religious freak. He claimed her faith head crossed over into the occult. And he used the loyalty of his sons to his advantage. Steve took Josh and John to his paralegal and had them filed declarations supporting him. This is what Josh wrote. We also seem to do an awful amount of arguing over religion and wherein when we have to go to church, and what we have to believe I feel that it is a lot of scare tactics and brainwashing and the younger kids should be protected from that, Steve even had Michael then just ten years old file affidavit. The judge was not impressed calling the involvement of the boys in the case concerning even more concerning where the claims Josh's older sister Jenny offered the court in early November. Steve Josh, and John came over to the house Terry was gathering some legal papers when Steve tried to grab them out of her hand, Terry resisted the. Confrontation turned physical. Jennifer felt afraid and called nine one one Steve seeing her on the phone told her to hang up Jennifer dropped the phone, but grabbed a folder and ran out of the house. She headed for her car where she intended to walk the court papers out of her father's reach. She didn't make Josh tackle Jenny on the front lawn, wrapping his arms around her and overpowering her Steve reached the front door and saw his kids wrestling shouting at one another in full view of the neighbors. It looked bad he yelled at Josh to let go of Jennifer and come back inside the house. Terry and Jennifer told the court, Steve and the boys were trying to brainwash Michael and turn him against his mom. Josh said, the house was segregated girls. Versus boys Terry said both Josh and John had hit her in the past. Steve told the court his wife and oldest daughter. They were just telling stories totally have him convinced that that my mom was just twisting the facts. When in reality was my dad that had everything twisted out of shape. I he was amazing at that. At first the judge allowed Steve access to the home because it was where he kept his office. Steve used that permission though, as carte blanche to do whatever he wanted when Terry put a padlock on her bedroom door Steve tried to cut it Steve flew into a rage. One day when Jennifer stopped him from taking share out of the house. He grabbed her by the hair pulling so hard some strands separated from her scalp in light of the violence. The judge granted Terry custody of both Michael and Alina Josh, and John we're allowed to choose where they wanted to live both decided to stay with Steve Josh wrote a journal entry around that time. He called his mom a treasure seeker who wanted to blow. Lead. Steve for all. He was worth he called his sister. Jennifer, a witch now all of this was going on while Josh was an eleventh grader at central Valley High School. He did his best to keep up with his class work in spite of the chaos in the journal entry he wrote last week. I took a test in algebra, and I couldn't concentrate couldn't even figure out some of the problems algebra's my best subject. Josh wrote. His mother was the reason he'd had to see a shrink more than once in the past. But didn't go into detail about his self harm or threatening behavior. His personal relationships. Also, suffered just a few weeks after learning of his parents divorce. He responded to a letter from Sarah that girl that he'd surprised with an unwanted kiss. Earlier that year, Sarah, gone off to college in Wyoming and wrote to Josh about how different college life was from high school. Josh felt like she was talking down to him. And he was livid. I've never said anything before when you offended me. I assumed it would stop it will stop. If you have to keep saying other people are better than me. Then don't say it to someone else. This was a major shift in tone Josh's prior letters to Sarah had been meek almost puppy dog ish. He seemed to recognize that his emotions were just running out of control. Sorry. If I seem like a jerk. I'm just mad. I'm tired of you patronizing me. I'm better than most the people. I know I'm not being conceded either. It's just a fact is about time, you realize it for all of this anger. There were also hints of an internal conflict. Terry told the court there were times when Josh seemed troubled, by the way, Steven John acted she wrote in one declaration that Josh is anger seemed to flare and subside he was capable she said of thoughtfulness and cooperation in April of nineteen Ninety-three. Josh wrote a letter to Sarah's sister Theresa. He complained about the divorce, and in particular, his mom, I would kind of like my mom to be dead. Steve kept pushing boundaries. He repeatedly showed up at Michael and Alina school. He would take them off campus for lunch, even though he didn't have legal custody. Steve told the kids it was their mom, not the courts that kept them apart. One time Steve kept Michael for a full week beyond his court. Authorized visitation Terry worried Steve might try to actually kidnapped the younger kids. She told the court Steve zone. Parents had played what they called the kidnap game with Steve when he was a child there's a pattern of abuse there that escalated through generations my dad's. Parents divorced when he was pretty young. And then they played this game of kidnapping each of the children from each other. And they would just see how long they could hide the children from the other. Parents Jennifer told me that didn't happen with her siblings. At least not exactly my dad didn't physically kidnapped the children. But he did that in a in this mental way with this game that he would play mentally where he would twist all the facts and make them believe that my mother was terrible. And so in a sense, he was kidnapping them. Mentally, Steve told the older boys Terry's home was their home to they should come and go as they wished Terry. Didn't see it that way on mother's day. Josh and John win over to the house and tried to force their way inside Terry called the police. Steve moved to Puyallup, the beginning of nineteen Ninety-four. Josh by then was a high school senior and turning eighteen. He John Michael made the move to western Washington as well. Josh only a few months to go to graduation, but the move to Puyallup sapped him of motivation. He ended up at Rogers high school where he didn't know anyone and had no friends he'd left a girlfriend behind Spokane, but any idea of maintaining a long distance relationship disappeared when he met a girl named Mary Cox, Mary also attended Rogers. Hi, Josh wanted to date Mary, but she wasn't interested. Josh managed to graduate high school afterward. He took a job working at a cabinet shop in the nearby city of Kent. He also tried to promote his own woodworking business Powell custom furniture, which she operated out of a storage unit that fall, Josh started classes at Pierce college. Steph's moved to didn't bring Tom to the Powell family. He shaved against the judge's orders and found himself in contempt of court for not paying the bills and child support Steve reported Terry to child protective services, claiming she'd neglected Michael Andolina the state launched an investigation in decided Steve's accusation was unfounded, the Powell family reunited in August of nineteen ninety four. When Jennifer the oldest of the kids married Kirk graves in the Portland, Oregon temple of the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints. Steve was absent Jennifer refused to invite her dad a slight which he never forgave kurkin. Jennifer had been together for about six months before tying the knot. Josh that he didn't expect their marriage to last in a letter to his friend Teresa if I were to place a wager on the outcome of their marriage. I would have to bet against longevity. Who knows maybe they'll beat the odds in March of nineteen ninety-five Josh bottom motorcycle, the bike was nothing too. Flashy Yamaha, radiant. But it did make getting around between home school and work a bit easier. It was also cheaper than a car and Josh liked the feeling of speed Josh disliked living with his dad, Stephen courage, d- arguments among the kids, especially over religion. The house was a hostile place not somewhere. Josh wanted to bring friends not the Josh had many friends to hang out with. He really didn't meet anyone at Pierce college. Mary Cox wasn't the only girl to spurn him either. He struck out over and over again in his efforts to find a girlfriend in the fall of nineteen ninety-five. He did meet a girl named Becky in his macroeconomics class. They hit it off. But Josh was reluctant to get too attached. He later wrote Becky liked to go dancing at the club with her girlfriends. I think dancing is an intimate activity to be shared with a loved one. I tend not to see the point in dancing with strangers. Becky also enjoyed the occasional drink. She went to bars with girlfriends one time while I knew her she went by herself since her friends weren't available. I think this is not a lady like activity. I've decided to direct more energy to finding girl who has similar attitudes on love intimacy time education alcohol in such issues. Josh did well in school keeping GPA just below four point. Oh that was impressive considering he frequently slept through classes, the one exception was of course, on American sign language, which he loved after completing his associates degree at Pierce college. Josh enrolled at the university of Washington in Seattle his goal become an architect. Josh rented a dorm at Stephen's court for the fall semester of nineteen ninety six. He was thrilled to find an Ethernet Jack in Israel. It was a much faster internet connection than his dial up modem at home. He connected. His computer set up his first Email account and marveled at the ability to access an entire encyclopedia on CD his excitement for the university. Experience didn't last on his fifth day on campus Josh's dorm mates decided to throw a back to school bash about seventy five people crammed into the small apartment. They passed around beer and bud encouraging Josh to drink and smoke pot with them. He refused at one point and inebriated roommates slammed Josh to the ground. The blow did more damage Josh's pride then his body. But the bullying wasn't just physical during another party Josh's. Roommates told him one of the guests was gay and wanted to have sex with him. They were explicit in their description. Isn't that why you're in college? They asked to experience new things. Josh didn't quite know how to handle their taunts he requested a room transfer. But it took weeks for the university to approve meantime, he fell behind in his classes in November. He wrote a letter to the university throughout my stay in that first apartment. I was bombarded with loud noises at all hours of the night. I was the subject of a sick joke to became sexual harassment. My personal belongings were stolen by my roommates or their guests. And I was the victim of salt and battery the transfer did finally come through Josh found his second apartment at Stephen's court, quiet and clean, his new roommate was an international student from India. They became fast friends, Josh joined a yacht club and took a drama class on some nights. He let off steam by walking a couple of blocks down to the edge of Portage bay. Josh was living on his own for the first time in his life. It brought things into focus he confided to his friend Theresa that. His dad was a bad influence. My dad's seems to always get mad at me when he sees me, my brother, and I concluded that my dad resents me often says root things to and about me actually, the things he says are not true he perceives them because he wants to I try not to get mad. But it's hard sometimes a month later Josh told Teresa he'd heard a story on the radio about depression. He believed he was depressed. Josh's mom Terry was also in school she'd married Steve right out of high school and had never gone to college. Instead staying home to raise her five kids after the divorce Steve repeatedly refused to pay child support or his portion of the bills Terry had to make a living. So she enrolled in college. It wasn't enough. She actually had to ask the church for financial assistance. Steve took notice of that. He demanded she pay him child support. Even though his earnings far outpaced hers. He also renewed his efforts to gain custody of Lena at the start of nineteen Ninety-seven, Josh abandoned his ambitions in architecture. He decided to go all in on drama, which he really enjoyed in high school. He signed up for theater class at U dub and tried out for play winning apart in a production of Lil Abner his role was a crony. I mean, it wasn't even a speaking part friends still Josh they were excited for him. But it must have come as a blow to his ego. He abandoned any aspirations of pursuing careers, actor his feelings of apathy and depression, did not go away. One experience at the university of Washington changed Josh more than any other one day during the spring of nineteen Ninety-seven he walked by a window and saw a pretty young woman sitting on the other side of the glass. She glanced up at him, Josh smiled the woman smiled back. So Josh dropped what he was doing. And went to introduce himself understand Josh was never shy around girls. He overflowed with confidence and felt no apprehension about approaching total strangers. This time he discovered the woman was a member of a group called campus crusade for Christ. She invited Josh to spend time with your friends who were all born again Christians. Here's what he wrote about that experience in a later letter one of their celebrations was in a big lodge where whole families were invited. Many of us were sitting on the floor a cute little black baby boy came up to me and sat on my lap. He said, I love you. I knew he did. And then my heart. He was the only one who did love me at the time. Remember, Josh was feeling secretly depressed. And he was moved. He asked his new friends to make him born again soon the semester ended Josh moved out of his campus apartment and back in with his dad and Puyallup, they didn't get along especially as Josh began to question the absence of religion from his life. His turn inward also revealed to Josh just how poorly he treated his mom as a teenager instead of returning to school that fall. He went back to Verizon sale to patch up his relationship with Terry the escape from Steve's orbit had a pretty profound effect on. Josh he examined his life questioning why it always seemed so hard for him to connect with people, especially girls, here's what he wrote about it. That's timber. I think certain aspects of my character can use improvement. I may be a much easier person to be around with these minor adjustments. For instance, I say what I think sometimes I need to remember that people. Don't wanna hear some things Josh reconnected with cousins on his mom's side of the family. They like that little boy at the campus crusade for Christ retreat showed him unconditional love Terry encouraged, her oldest son to attend some of the events for young adults put on by the church of Jesus Christ of latter day. Saints a mom suggested that I go to family home evening, I decided to go hang out there until I could make some real friends at eastern Washington University. But as I went each week, I found my old friends from junior high school, they were nice to me, and I made real friends in spite of the fact, I told them that I was not at all interested in their church. Josh's entire demeanor seemed to change his sister, Jennifer saw it it was it seemed like for just a little short time. There is a little bit of a glimmer of light that came in to joshes mind in heart that November Josh's old friend turned pen, pal. Jackie wrote him a letter asking about this, sudden, spiritual awakening kind of shocked me when you. Started talking about it. Jackie wrote, you used to be so rebellious about it mostly because of your mom, but Josh no longer resented, his mom. He forgave her for the divorce and even started patching up the bruised relationship with Jennifer back to church and. Just overall I would talk to him. Occasionally to and he just sounded like he was doing better on a better path at the start of nineteen ninety eight Josh enrolled in school again this time it eastern Washington University. He didn't plan to stay there. Very long. He wanted to move to Utah. Just like, Jennifer Hamm. But before that could happen Josh met, a young woman named Catherine Terry. You heard a little from Catherine at the start of this episode. Here's the rest of her story, Catherine had grown up in Utah. She'd only moved to Spokane after graduating highschool her aunt and uncle had invited her up to live with them knowing she was coming off a bad break up and was in need of a fresh start. Catherine was an active member of the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints in Spokane she started attending a singles ward that's congregation for unmarried church members. And that's how she met. Josh. I went to first time I met him and activity that we went to. And of course, you know, he came to me in introduced himself, you know, and. Of course, you know, at the time, I was young and naive and quite smitten by him, you know, and. He was really ought about the beginning of our relationship. Just want friends, you know, nothing more than that. I'm not looking for anything more than that. And so it's like. I was interested in him. And obviously he was interested in me. And it just a kind of it went from from there to a relationship when Josh left to visit Jennifer in Utah for a few weeks. He's spent every night talking to Catherine on the phone it all moved to fast for Josh though. At one point he told Catherine they needed to break up. She was crushed Josh returned from Utah short time later and told her he still wanted to be friends, Catherine sucked it up and agreed. But Josh soon decided he wasn't happy just being friends. He went to work reestablishing, the relationship, Catherine was hesitant, but she caved to pressure. She was nineteen. Josh was twenty two from that point their relationship. Progressed very quickly. Josh asked Catherine to move in with him Catherine's, uncle told her shacking up. With Josh was a bad idea. He said she needed to stay well away from Josh Powell. She ignored that advice. Josh and Catherine spent the summer of nineteen ninety eight living with Steve Powell in Puyallup. Josh was spending money freely buying CD's and DVD's kitchen appliances, futons and all manner of other things when he ran out of money. No problem. He spent what little Catherine had when his old friend Jackie invited him to her wedding in North Dakota Josh discovered he couldn't afford the price of a bus ticket. I went to the greyhound station Sunday to buy tickets, but my credit card was rejected at the moment. I have absolutely no cash. I guess I've been spending more than I thought since I met Katherine Katherine met the rest of Josh's family, with the exception of his older sister Jenny who had moved to Utah Josh's kid sister Alina seemed to live on her computer. But she and Catherine they got along pretty well, John. She said was standoffish, Michael Catherine thought. Was quiet and sensitive, Mike. He kind of were there. He kind of Josh around like a puppy dog. You know? But yeah, anytime I. You know, even. Hung around. I think mainly his brothers on one on one basis. Jocelyn concluded he'd be like. I don't want you hanging out with them. You know, I'm pretty sure you probably bunches bunch of stuff. You know, wasn't true to get me to not have anything to do with them. Josh didn't talk to Katherine much about his family's history. He didn't go into detail about the divorce as far as Catherine could tell Josh's dad. He was a nice guy. Steve was almost like a father figure very kind to her and understanding in joss. They they clashed watts. They butted heads a lot. And I don't know if it's just because diva expected more of dodge. But yeah, there were times, you know, they would get into it yelling about this that and the other Josh and Catherine didn't stay in Puyallup for more than a few months. They found an apartment for themselves in Seattle Josh Rian rolled at U dub for the fall semester. And he encouraged Catherine to do the same. But she couldn't qualify for in state to ish. So instead, she signed up for classes at a nearby community college, Catherine had no job and no money for tuition Josh holder to get a student loan. So she did when the check came Josh took it and deposited it into his own account. Catherine never saw that money. In fact, get this. She still owes on that debt to this day twenty years later Josh picked up a job installing furniture for his dad, Catherine occasionally pitched in there as well. I remember every time I got my check it had me sign it. And then he'd stick it in his their apartment was tiny anytime at rained which was often in Seattle the roof fleet. Josh wanted to sue his landlord and started reading about the law. I may as well be a lawyer. It's so easy in November. Josh wrote a letter to his aunt Brenda about his problems with the apartment it turned into a rant about the legal system. I'm considering becoming a lawyer because I have no respect for that. Elk. I would not be afraid to slaughter. My opponents I would go after bad people of all sorts, especially lawyers judges. This was the old Josh not the young man who had the spiritual awaken still he and Catherine continued to attend church meetings. They joined a congregation for families, even though they weren't married. It was weird to me because he's just like if anybody asks for married don't say now, and I mean, even remember wearing just a ban on my finger, Josh told Catherine he didn't want to get married in really never wanted to have kids. Katherine felt very uneasy about the situation. She knew they were not living the religion. But Josh wanted others to think that they were we were active, but I do just remember Russo out of place. This is not we should be doing, you know, we're living together. We're not married shouldn't be going to church together. Like this making people were married. Those church meetings should've acted as a social outlet for Katherine. But it really didn't work out that way anytime she started to make friends Josh would intervene, and it was basically his family him and school. That they had a landline phone in the apartment, but no cellphones. Josh rarely allowed Catherine to use his computer get on it unless he was there. The only thing I ever really did on it was to Email, my friend, and of course, right next to me as I even my friend breeding everything that I wrote okaying it, basically if I sent it. Josh also made sure to read her journal, the only transportation they had was Josh's motorcycle or the city bus, Catherine didn't know how to drive a motorcycle and Josh never offered to teachers idea. We go grocery shopping to ask the or for large slots bag, and we would Alva groceries in it. He would put it in front of himself on his bike. And then he'd be on Mike, and I'd be on the bike. And we would we would go back. And I can't remember how many times we did that. But I'm just like this is insane in effect, Josh McCaffrey and a prisoner yet. She kept telling herself she was happy. She was lying to her self. I remember one time getting into fight with him. And there was nowhere to go. But the bathroom, and I went and locked myself in there, and I remember playing my feet up against the door. And. Him unlocking the door and pushing all his ninety. Josh's control over Catherine wasn't always so physical one time while they were living together. Catherine went to have her nails done. She felt pretty and proud of herself. And then he noticed that I had gotten my Nelson to me how stupid it was. And how much? And I remember him being gone to do something and ripping nails off my fingers in order to appease him only to have to go back to the lawn to have them fixed. The damage that I had done that damage. It was a lot worse than Catherine. Understood it I I'm like I remember night where it was like right after I had had them fixed. And I could feel an infection in one of my fingers and waking up rain, and you're not doing he didn't care. You know, just laying there. He did it to yourself. Basically. Catherine's uncle back in Spokane died while she was living in the Seattle apartment. Her whole family gathered for the funeral. Josh refused to let her go Josh's dad even came to Catherine's defense offering to pay her way to Spokane. But Josh wouldn't hear Katherine told me. Josh hated her hyung-chol for having tried to keep them apart. I was so devastated because you know, no matter how much I tried to persuade him to be like just let me go. You know, I'm going to come back in March of nineteen ninety nine Catherine decided to take a trip home to Utah to visit a friend Josh's school schedule prevented him from joining got away from him. And I didn't realize how much. Control. He had over. I was and what I did what I didn't do and stuff like that. But Katherine realized how unhappy she'd become living with Josh. She decided not to return to Washington she made a phone call to Josh and told him she would not becoming back. Josh put her stuff in storage until she could come up and get it. She made that trip the weekend before thanksgiving Josh insisted on seeing Catherine the night she and her new boyfriend Dennis arrived in Seattle. You heard how that played out at the beginning of this episode when Josh got home from that face to face with Dennis and Catherine at their hotel. He scribbled a short note on a scrap of paper. Here's what he wrote her fiance was a jerk. He seemed like a possessive freak like a bouncer. That was one of the few clues. I had led me to Catherine I met she and Denis at there. House in Utah on hot summer afternoon in two thousand eighteen. The window mounted air conditioner drone. I'd printed out a copy of the note and showed it to them. This is what we were. There can never there. Denis and Catherine are married now. You tell me about later in patient. About this. Let's jump back again to nineteen ninety nine. Now the day after Josh dropped off the science center pass was Sunday. Denis and Catherine drove around Seattle together, she showed him where she had lived. And he took her out to the suburbs where he served a two year mission for the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints. Josh went to church himself that day, then he drove his dad's minivan to the storage unit where he'd stashed Catherine's things they all met that evening in the parking. Lot of Petco store just off the I five freeway not far from the university of Washington campus. It was also near the apartment, Josh and Catherine had shared for about six months. Josh was wearing buddy always wore a white t shirt, denim pants sneakers and a black leather jacket. He shows up, and I guess dad's van star or something like that. We got all the stuff out. He's been really helpful again. He's hoping to get everything to fit. It was a challenge, but they managed to cram it all into Denis's car. When they were done, Catherine told Josh goodbye for good and sat down in the passenger seat. Dennis put the car in drive and pulled out of the lot keeping an eye on the side mirror. I look back at them. And I think he was waiting for a little while to leave because he was just. Taking it in. Because I think there is still at small hope he might pull something off. Even though you wanted to push. But that was that the feeling of apprehension Catherine had felt on her way into Seattle blood out of her on the drive back home to Utah, a different emotion replaced it relief shoe had escaped she thought she would never have to see Josh Powell's face again. Josh took some time to reflect on the implosion of their relationship. He decided it had fallen apart because he had stopped living his faith. Josh wanted to stay in Seattle, but he could not afford his own place. So he recruited some roommates from among his church friends. They moved into place just west of the U dub campus. Josh was not an easy guy to live with he insisted on doing all of the grocery shopping himself. But he became set when his roommates eight any of the food in may of nineteen ninety nine Josh meta girl at church, let's call her. Cindy, it's not her real name. But I'm using it to protect her privacy. Now, Cindy had two sisters. I will call them Stella and Jamie, also not their real names, Cindy was half Brazilian and spoke fluent Portuguese. Josh started listening to audiotapes in an effort to learn the language. He started pressuring Cindy today at him he showed up at her family's house unannounced late one Tuesday evening. Here's josh. Own voice from his audio journal general experience that most girls. The way I am. Sway? I would like to be he asks indie to step outside. So that they could talk, and then he droned on and on keeping her out past eleven thirty curfew to be more careful because I really don't want to get her into trouble. Bad at stress to our relations. -sarily and the concept of curfews not familiar to me the next day Josh road, Cindy of long letter describing his time with Catherine and his brief fall away from faith after I came to the church. I had one big struggle. And I lost hold for awhile. I think even that was for my good though, the sun went down, and I was alone. Only when I returned again was I free again, he wrote another letter a few days later confessing the turmoil of his parents divorce. He said he finally understood his sister Jennifer's split from the rest of the family. She endured the second worst thing in the world. She made a choice to distance herself from my dad. So now, I will face the second hardest thing in the world. It is up to my dad when I will see him and how much Cindy didn't have romantic feelings for Josh. She asked him not to show up at the house without calling. I, but he kept finding excuses to visit like dropping off some CDs or bringing over a pot for plant again. This is Josh is audio journal. I hadn't. Really? I just called her like an hour before I arrived, and I just left it on the voice mail. So I had done what she asked me in my own little way. Cindy, finally had to make it clear. She was not interested Josh told her he wanted to stay friends, then over the next few months. He's slowly shifted his interest down the line to Cindy sister. Stella Josh's journals reveal he knew this was abnormal behavior. This is from Josh's written journal, if there is a girl who is interested in my brother, and then she got interested in me. I would probably be very cautious with her too. I might feel like I was her second choice. It didn't stop him Josh's feelings for Stella grew into a raging fire. He just couldn't seem to control he continued to show up at our house, or at her work sometimes carrying a video camera it made so uneasy. Josh, meanwhile, was dealing with feelings of jealousy and isolated. Sometimes I feel like no one wants to be around me. It is as though I am not allowed to feel sad. Sometimes I think a lot of people don't understand that. I have the same feelings as everyone else in early October. Josh decided it was time to confront Stella. He brought her flowers and told her he wanted to be her boyfriend. He asked her to pray about him. Ask your father about me. And if there's any chance I might be good for you. Then please don't start dating anyone else. Stella like her sister felt put off by Josh's high pressure approach. She told him they should just stay friends. Josh did back off for about a month. He tried dating around a bit. But struck out again he began to blame. His dating troubles on his roommates who he saw as freeloaders they don't seem to appreciate all the things. I do for them. I owe them nothing. It makes me wanna unshared and get rid of them in December. Josh poured his heart out to Stella in an Email as he'd done with. Cindy, he described how his mom and dad's divorce had scarred him. He talked about finding his way. Back to religion. He even made a veiled reference to Catherine his ex-girlfriend calling her the first girl that he had ever really liked deep down at the end. He told Stella she was then the sole object of his attention want. You to love me, Stella, I love you. When you said you wanted to be friends, I tried to get over you. But no other girl comes close. The only thing. I don't love about you is that I can't reach you. But one of Josh's roommates had secretly warned Cindy about what he was really like Cindy talked to Stella word got back to Josh. He was furious over what he called his roommates indiscretion. I just want them gone. So I don't mind being a nuisance to them. We will I be happy when they are wearing out my nice things anymore. I probably shouldn't get to mean with these guys because it could affect my reputation in January Josh executed his plan from the audio journal. I let go of my apartment packed up. All my stuff. I put it in my storage unit. I had a feeling I could not need to be in Seattle anymore. Trumpers time finally moved out of nowhere needed to go. Know what I was doing where I was going to know anything before leaving Seattle. Josh made a half hearted attempt to Cindy installs. Cousin? It did not go well from a complicated situation, roommates and friends and. Complicated relationships criss crossing every which way Josh moved back to Dan's Place in Puyallup, and it's kind of difficult living by doubt at times because it has had a against the church, but I have got it and realized that it is even more difficult for my little brother and sister who never. In march. Josh took a road trip to his sister Jennifer's house in Utah. He was there to attend the by annual general conference of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. He was also there to meet a young woman. He had found on a website for church singles by went down there to Utah to fi her spent a couple of weeks at a puke housing miles furthest. I've ever driven for day. That was a great experience. All though, obviously it didn't work out that is an understatement. Let me explain why Josh made just a couple of references to this woman in his writings, I found her full name buried in the thousands of files police later retrieved from his computer now during our first conversation. This woman had told me something about Josh had given her the creeps. She couldn't put her finger on what? Josh's own journals may shed some light on it after their date. Josh wrote about visiting the Provo Utah temple. He saw young married couples there with happy expressions on their faces. He thought it was the same. Look he'd seen on the face of that girl that he had driven so far to meet we have had that understanding that when we are together it is about each other. Even if I may not marry her I was thinking about how sweet she has toward me. He barely knew this girl. He bought her a rose and wrote a letter confessing his feelings are you seeing a pattern here. It was the same approach. He had used unsuccessfully on the sisters in Seattle. He completely failed to understand. She thought he was a weirdo. Josh until his sister. Jennifer about those dates even though he was staying at her house at the time. Jennifer didn't seem surprised when I told her about always been just a little bit odd during that period. I think that the oddness was. Maybe less pronounced. But there was still there. And we knew it. Josh went back to Washington even more committed to his religion. It put him in direct conflict with his dad. Here's Josh's audio journal. I was living with my dad for about six months and kill. I finally got to the point where I couldn't take it anymore. My dad is of course, non-member and it was starting to wear me down have to be around alcohol in the house and cutting an occasional anti Mormon discussions. So my mom suggested that I get an apartment in Tacoma. Well, I hadn't really considered that. Because I wasn't planning on staying in cocoon. I felt like I wanted to get the heck out of there. So Josh found an apartment into coma. This time by himself with no roommates, he joined the churches college heights ward and enrolled in the business school at the university of Washington Tacoma. He actually made new friends at church there were a lot of girls in his org. it. But none wanted to get serious. I just can't get through. I really like the only girl. To me that I'm not interested in. Anyway, that fall he went to an institute class with his friend. Tim Marini institutes of religion are sort of like seminaries, they are places where college age church members. Go to study their faith and to socialize at the end of one institute class, Josh spied, a young girl who looked somewhat familiar. Well, I didn't know who she was. She was about to leave after I called her back. And I was like, hey, chimera talk to me for a while. And she did her name was Susan Cox as they chatted she asked if he knew how to play the piano, Josh said, maybe a little Susan said she remembered Josh having played the piano at her house years before he'd come over to see her older Sister Mary. Again, are you seeing a pattern here? Josh made a habit of moving his affections from sister two sister, whenever he was rebuffed. Susan would later write that Josh socially attacked her that day, he was twenty four. She was just barely nineteen the same age Catherine had been when she first started dating. Josh. Susan would soon become Catherine two point. On the next episode of cold night. Right. Sweets, isn't hilarie me and chief. If you haven't already please subscribe to cold tosses a rating or a review you can find cold on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter at the cold podcast for video clips pictures from the case and more hit up the cold podcast dot com. Also, if Susan story sounds familiar in your own life. In other words, if you or someone you know is experiencing domestic abuse in any form, please get immediate help in the US. Support is a phone call away at the national domestic violence hotline at one eight hundred seven nine nine seven two three three or online at WWW dot the hotline dot org. A quick. Thank you to my team. Kristen Sorenson, Eric openshaw can fall Daniel Prager, Adam Mason Gillian Friedman, and especially Cheryl Worsley for all of their help with this project. The music for cold was composed by Michael bond Miller, except for the tar stuff that was me cold is a KSL podcast. Thank you for listening.

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Josh Powell Pt. 2

Crimes of Passion

45:42 min | 6 months ago

Josh Powell Pt. 2

"Due to the graphic nature of these crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of violence murder suicide, and the sexual abuse of minors that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. When Elizabeth Griffin Hall pulled into the driveway, the clock on her dashboard read eleven fifty seven am. She'd hardly come to a stop before seven-year-old Charlie and five year old brayden barreled out of the back seat and rushed up the front steps. They were so thrilled to see their father Elisabeth hoped it would last but she'd been in social work long enough to know that excitement had a way of turning into resentment. Strain father son relationships rarely had happy endings. She opened the car door and rose from the driver's seat her back aching as she straightened up. She walked slowly toward the porch. But before she got up the steps Josh, Powell flung the door open. The boys immediately dashed through his legs into the House. Josh gave Elizabeth. A tight lipped nod before slamming the door in her face. Elizabeth tried the knob locked through the door. She heard Josh Tell his children. He had a surprise for them. She pounded on the door rang the bell frantically she was supposed to supervise Josh's visits with the boys. He couldn't be allowed to be alone with them. As she made her way back to her car to call her supervisor, she heard one of the kids cry out. It wasn't the sound of a boy who was delighted to see his father. was a scream of terror. Hi I'm leaning hops and this crimes of passion a spotify original from cast in the legal definition crime of passion is a violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion leaving no time to reflect on the consequences. But in this show, we explore how passionate relationships sometimes lead us to criminal activity. How does a husband and wife become killer and victim or killer and co-conspirator? If there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships into deadly results. You can find episodes of crimes of passion and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Last week we discussed. Susan Powell's fraught relationship with her husband Josh. After meeting through their local Church of Latter Day, saints in two thousand Josh Susan married quickly despite Susan's efforts to work on their relationship josh quickly became controlling and abusive. After Susan made it clear that she would seek a divorce she disappeared without a trace from their Utah home. This week, we'll talk about the police investigation into Susan's disappearance. Justice authorities were closing in on the truth a tragic crime destroy the pal family forever. We have all that and more coming up stay with us. Around two AM on December seventh two, thousand, nine, a neighbor, her twenty, eight year old Susan Powell and her husband thirty-three-year-old Josh loudly arguing. When the yelling finally stopped Josh's Blue Chrysler Minivans zoomed out of the neighborhood. When Josh and Susan both failed to show up to work or drop their two young children at daycare. The next morning, the entire Powell family was reported missing. With permission from Josh's sister Jennifer officers from the West Valley City Utah Police Department broke into the POWs home. In the master bedroom, they found Susan's purse wallet and keys untouched. It seems she either left her home in a rush or that she was forced out. In the living room, two bucks fans hummed drying damn couch. A, the upholstery had been cleaned just hours before police arrived. On a patch of tile behind the couch officers found tiny drops of blood. The situation puzzled police and terrified friends and family who frantically called Susan and Josh. Cell phones. After hours of unanswered calls, Susan's friend Giovanna finally got a hold of Josh at three o'clock in the afternoon he answered the phone nonchalantly apparently ass surprised as anybody that Susan had shown up for work that day. Giovanna told him. He needed to come home as soon as possible and talk to the authorities. But Josh wasn't in a hurry. Without giving any explanation as to why after the call he drove further away from his home with Charlie and Brayden, dozing in the back seat. He then called Susan Cell Phone and left a voicemail saying he had been confused about what day it was thinking. It was Sunday instead of Monday. He said, he was on his way to pick her up from work. A short while later he left another message telling Susan, he was waiting for her outside. Of course, Susan never came out to the parking lot. Having, spoken to Giovanna and his sister Jennifer by this point, Josh should have known she. Be pretended to be more ignorant. was. Josh in return home until five or six PM. The fact that it took him. So long to arrive made police highly suspicious. As, soon as a Blue Chrysler, minivan pulled up an officer approached the driver's side window and asked Josh where he been. Josh said he hadn't been home since the night before he claimed, he left after midnight to take his sons camping without Susan. The investigator peaked into the car and saw Charlie and Brandon to very tired looking kids strapped in car seats in the back. The camping trip story seemed obviously absurd Utah was covered in snow. The previous night had been below freezing. It made no sense for a father to take small children out intend degree weather in the middle of the night. When the officers searched Josh's car however, it was packed with camping supplies. The story was bizarre but even if it was true, it didn't mean Josh wasn't involved in his wife's disappearance. With this in mind officers continued looking through Joshua's vehicle. He had clearly taken time to prepare answers to questions about his camping trip. To catch him in a potential lie detectives needed a catch him off guard. Before I continue with Josh's psychology. Please note I. Am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but have done a lot of research for the show. In a two, thousand, nine study published in the Journal Law and human behavior researchers found that asking surprising questions can help differentiate a liar from a truth teller. This may be because liars tend to carefully plan their stories and have more difficulty improvising. While the two thousand nine study focused on college students. Its findings were useful for those who study criminal behavior during interogations. Josh's inconsistent answers fit the pattern of a liar who felt caught off guard. It an among the camping supplies in Josh's car investigators found Susan Cell Phone with a SIM card removed. Exactly. What needed? Josh. Acted surprise at the officers discovered the device and couldn't adequately explain why it was in his car since his wife reportedly stayed home the night before. When police asked Josh where his wife might be. He said, he didn't know bellator suggested that she ran off with another man. To anybody who knew Susan, the idea that she had a secret lover was ridiculous Susan had certainly been unhappy with her marriage but she was at her core a family oriented Mormon woman. If she went anywhere voluntarily, it wouldn't have been with another man and she never would have left her children behind. Authorities however we're still getting an idea of WHO Susan Powell was. They didn't yet realize how Josh was twisting the story. After interviewing Josh briefly that evening the police told him he had to come in the next day for a proper interview. Unfortunately then also gave Josh an opportunity to cover his tracks. The. Next morning his sister Jennifer walked in on him doing just that. Jennifer parked her car and walked quickly a per brothers front porch steps. Couldn't begin to imagine what Josh was going through. If, her husband's suddenly disappeared she'd be devastated. She just hopes she could get josh some comfort and reassure him that the police would find Susan soon. As she walked through the front door Jennifer expected to find josh zoned out on the couch or frantically calling people who might have information about his wife. Instead. She found him frantically vacuuming the living room carpet. Piles of freshly cleaned but not yet voted clothes were stacked in the laundry room. The entire house smelled like bleach. Josh was short with Jennifer. He claimed he didn't have time to talk. He had to get all the cleaning done before he talked to the authorities. Jennifer didn't want to think badly of her brother, but she couldn't help remembering the damn couch from the previous morning. At first, she explained it away thinking that Charlie and Braden had probably spilled something on the upholstery. But now that she saw josh scrubbing down his entire home, she feared the worst. By the time Josh Finish, cleaning and drove to the station, he was four hours late for his scheduled interview. According to One News report the statements he made during his interrogation were evasive, disjointed and sometimes contradictory. Josh now told West Valley City police that Susan was suicidal. They'd been married for almost a decade yet josh couldn't name a single one of Susan's friends or tell officers whether or not someone might want to hurt her. He acted like he didn't know a thing about his own wife. Detectives were troubled by Josh's lack of concern. Normally when a person's significant other goes missing, they are in frequent contact with law enforcement and actively participate in the search and investigation Josh on the other hand avoided police whenever possible and seemed to be withholding potentially vital information. Right off the bat he became a prime suspect. They asked him to wait in the lobby while they searched his car a second time. Authorities assured Josh the search wouldn't take long but instead of waiting Josh left the station and picked up a rental car. With the new car Josh drove over eight hundred miles with a four hundred mile radius or around trip josh could have gone almost anywhere in Utah and into any neighbouring state. Suspiciously Josh, purchase a new cell phone during this two day trip when he was asked to surrender it to Belize they found that the SIM card was missing. And on December eighth and ninth while Josh was driving hundreds of miles is bothers steve lived in Washington state took two sick days from work. Although, Steve had a history of harassing women and his son had maintained a close relationship throughout Josh's marriage. They would often speak on the phone for hours had they met up to talk in person shortly after the crime. Is. Complicated relationship with Steve was a promising lead. Up, next on interrogates Steve Powell and find more than they bargained for. Listeners Beers a show you do not want to miss when it comes to love story is unique some play out like fairytales and some don't in our love story, the new spotify original from podcast you'll discover the many pathways to love as told by the actual couples who found them. Every Tuesday, our love story celebrates the ups downs and pivotal moments that turned complete strangers into perfect pairs. 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Authorities brought him to the station for an interrogation but while you're searching his car on December Eighth Josh rented vehicle and drove over eight hundred miles. Investigators when later suspect that Josh met up with his father Steve at some point during those two days. There were several theories about where Josh went during the forty eight hours that he had the rental car. It was possible that if Susan was dead Josh had gone to move her body. Perhaps, he met up with his father to confide the truth of what happened on December seventh. Or. Maybe they never saw each other at all. It was clear that Josh's behavior was suspicious but all the evidence authorities had thus far Susan cell phone damn couch, the blood splatter and the rented vehicle was circumstantial. Nothing definitively linked Josh to a crime nothing showed for certain that a crime had been committed at all. After December Eighth Josh shunned his family friends and police. For, a man who usually had to be the center of attention he was suddenly eerily quiet. Nobody he knew ever heard from him and he never reached out to law enforcement to ask for updates about the investigation. In the meantime officers interviewed Susan's Family and friends who painted a much different picture of her marriage than Josh had. According to them Susan was a devoted Mormon and a doting mother. The idea she left her children behind to be with someone else was unthinkable. Close. Friends showed police emails in which Susan confided the turmoil in her relationship and explicitly stated that she feared her husband. One friend pointed detectives to Susan Safe Deposit box where a year and a half before she disappeared, she hidden a secret will in the document. Susan. wrote that she did not trust her husband and requested that. Her death, her parents be given custody of her kids. Near the end Susan Road. If I die, it may not be an accident. Even if it looks like one. Officers also spoke to an acquaintance who talked to. Josh at a Christmas party in two thousand eight according to the man Josh Meade unsettling comments about how he would get away with a perfect murder by hiding the body and one of the approximately twenty thousand abandoned mineshafts across Utah. Josh said, no, one would ever think to search there. Of course police now knew exactly where they needed to look if Susan had indeed been murdered by her husband. The problem was searching that many mineshafts wasn't just dangerous. It was practically impossible. The newest round of interviews also shed light on Steve Pals disturbing behavior toward Suzanne. Josh's father had stalked and harassed his daughter-in-law. So it was possible that he might have had a hand in her disappearance. On December seventeenth, ten days after Susan was reported missing West. Valley city police question. Steve. In his interviews, Steve Openly admitted his infatuation with Susan. But try to make the imagined romance seem consensual. Although Susan turned Steve Down and move nearly nine hundred miles just to get away from him. He somehow believe that the two of them shared a mutual affection. His delusion was unsettling, but he had an alibi for December seven. He spent the day at home with three of his children. Besides. Josh Steve had one other child who didn't live with him Jennifer she was the one who previously gave police the okay to search Josh and Susan's home. Now. She Sat for an interview and painted a picture of a twisted and damaging family situation and Steve Pals home. Jennifer claimed that her father had a serious pornography problem and that strange sexual behaviors including his voyeurism were normalized in his home. When she was a child Steve left pornographic images pulled up on his computer and magazines such as playboy laying out where she or her four siblings could easily stumble upon them. This inadvertent exposure to pornography at such a young age, traumatize Jennifer and likely did the same to her siblings? According to Researchers Antonia Kwara and Elie Sarre. Elmar from the Australian Institute of Family Studies Pornography while not inherently problematic can have far reaching effects on young people. According to Dr Code and Dr Elmore male adolescents who view pornography frequently are more likely to view women as sex objects, hold sexist attitudes and strengthen attitude supportive of sexual violence and violence against women. This is significant and places like the United States were approximately one in six women will experience rape or sexual violence. Pornography can encourage the idea male sexual aggression as acceptable or desirable. MISOGYNISTIC attitudes were pervasive in Steve's house each cheated on and berated his wife who eventually left him. He kept images of pinup models on his bedroom walls. Josh was exposed to pornography at a young age and evidence would later reveal that he like his father regularly viewed pornography as an adult. With all this in mind. It's easy to see where Josh's penchant for controlling and be rating Susan was nurtured. Jennifer told police that she had no doubt that her brother was capable of hurting or even killing Susan. Officers believed her all of the evidence they had pointed to a murder perpetrated by Josh though Steve May have somehow been involved to. Still, as unlikely as it seemed, it was also possible that Susan had left of her own volition. Without any concrete evidence that a crime had occurred authorities were stuck. Since detectives didn't have enough probable cause to obtain a search warrant for the POWs home. Josh had even more time to cover up potential evidence though he remained the prime suspect Josh was a completely free man. When he decided to take his children and moving with his father in January two, thousand ten, just a month after Susan disappeared. Officers couldn't do anything to stop him. To Belize the move. Made it clear that Josh? New? Susan wasn't ever coming home. Susan's parents Charles, and judy try to hold onto hope that their daughter would be found. But Josh's move infuriated them. They couldn't sit idly by while he took their grandchildren to live with Steve. Following the instructions Susan put in her will Charles and Judy attempted to get custody of Charlie and Brayden. Without any concrete evidence than Josh was an unfit father however, there was next to nothing Charles and Judy could do to get custody. Charlie and Braden lived in Steve's house which was no place for. Children. Charles and Judy were hurt but they weren't out of options. Jennifer was dead set on getting justice for her sister-in-law and offered to wear a wire to get josh to confess on tape. On January twenty, second two, thousand, ten, she attended a family dinner at Steve's home while officers listened from a vehicle parked down the street. Jennifer stomach fluttered as she walked inside her father's home. She thought wearing the wire might make her feel powerful like a secret agent. But. Now she just felt vulnerable worried that Josh and Steve would discover the tiny microphone at any moment. She went through the motions at the awkward family dinner forcing herself to eat even though her appetite had been zapped by nerves. All she needed was a moment alone with her brother to try to trip him into an accidental confession. When Josh stood and headed to the restroom after dinner Jennifer, seize the opportunity. She waited in the hallway for him to open the door then cornered him her heart pounding in her ears. Working hard to keep her voice steady. She asked Josh what he did to his wife. She watched as her brothers face suddenly grew hard. With a cold detachment in his voice, he told Jennifer that he wasn't allowed to talk to anybody about Susan's disappearance. All the time his face remained impassive STOIC a stone. Jennifer even tried accusing Josh of murder right but he was impossible to shake. Her eyes filled with tears. She hardly recognized him anymore. Jennifer ran out of Steve's house in a fury. The police assured her she done everything she could. But she nevertheless blamed herself for not getting a confession. It was their one chance and she'd failed. Although detectives didn't want to admitted Jennifer at the time the confession really had been there last real hope. Unless. They uncovered a piece of physical evidence linking Josh to Susan's disappearance. They wouldn't be able to get a warrant for his arrest. He could keep living in Washington would steve and authorities couldn't do anything about it. They continued conducting interviews and some of the Safer Mineshafts in Utah the months passed with no new leads. In the meantime, though public pressure on Josh increased eve is still the only suspect police publicly named in Susan's disappearance to news outlets reporting on the case he was the obvious corporate. In response to the scrutiny sixty, one year old Steve and thirty five year old Josh went on a bizarre media crusade. Their goal seemed to be to Redeem Josh by slandering Susan. Steve told reporters from ABC, News that Susan was flirtatious and that they had shared a mutual attraction. Josh said he believed his wife may have left him for another man because she was a very sexual person. The way. Characterize Susan. Was Out of touch with the way every other person she knew described her. Josh. Also told ABC News that Susan was unstable citing entries from her journals in which she wrote about normal downs of adult life. He once again suggested that if she didn't leave him, she may have died by suicide. Authorities were interested in Josh's mention of Susan's diaries. If they could access her writings, they might be able to learn more about the true nature of her relationship with Josh. Detectives. Had A hunch that josh was storing the journals at Steve's home meaning they need a search warrant to get them. So in August of two thousand eleven, officers came up with a plan. If, they could get steve or Josh to admit they had Susan's journals then they could get a warrant to search Steve's home. To do this authorities organized a honking wave with Charles Cox, near Steve's home. On the surface, it looked like an effort to keep up awareness of the search for Susan. In reality, however, it was an operation designed to infuriate Steve and Josh. Police new. The two men wouldn't be able to resist a chance to make themselves the center of attention. When drove by the honking wave on August twentieth two thousand eleven Stephen Josh pulled over to argue with Susan's family. The insisted that Josh was the real victim because media outlets were making him out to be a villain. More, importantly, they admitted Susan's journals were at Steve's house with this admission West, Valley city police were able to obtain the search warrant. When officers entered the house however, they found much more than Susan's diaries. Hidden. In Steve's bedroom investigators discovered a cache of items he'd saved from when Susan and Josh lived with him shortly after they got married almost a decade prior. In carefully, labeled and dated Ziplock BAGGIES Steve had Susan's use cotton balls, Tampon applicators, and even pieces of her hair her. Clothing items that he'd. Out of her laundry still unwashed. He had a journal of his own in which he documented his growing obsession with his daughter-in-law. Incredibly, this wasn't the worst thing detectives uncovered. They found almost forty, five, hundred photographs of Susan, nearly all of which were clearly taken without her consent or knowledge. To make matters worse Susan. Wasn't the only object of Steve's infatuation. He had countless tapes of women and girls from around the neighborhood, some of which showed them walking outside, and some of which were filmed through half opened blinds or curtains. Steve even have videos of children as young as eight years, old bathing and changing clothes. On September. Twenty second two thousand eleven officers placed sixty two year old Steve Powell under arrest on charges of felony voyeurism and child pornography. Charlie inbreeding then six and four years old were taken into protective care. Almost, immediately, Charles and Judy received custody of their grandchildren. They were ecstatic to have the children back in a safe environment. Their excitement turned to dread however when the boys began making alarming comments about the night. Their mother disappeared. Up Next, Charlie and Brayden start talking. This episode is brought to you by bio life plasma surfaces. Now more than ever people want to know if there's anything they can do to health and the answer is yes. Bio Life. Plasma, services your plasma is desperately needed to create life changing medicines to help treat people with immune deficiencies. Those who are most risk right now and when you donate plasma bio life, you can earn up to six hundred dollars in your first month as a token of appreciation for your time. So please become a donor at bio life visit life plasma dot com to schedule an appointment. 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Just one month after Susan. Powell went missing in the early morning of December seventh two, thousand, nine Josh Powell took their two children to Washington to move in with his father Steve. Though police suspected Josh murdered his wife they had no hard evidence. Thus they couldn't restrict his movements, place him under arrest or honor Susan's wish that her parents received custody of her children. Almost. Two years later and September two thousand eleven officers arrested Steve Is Felony. VOYEURISM and child pornography. Following the arrest, Josh and Susan Sons Six year old Charlie and four-year-old Brayden were placed in the care of Susan's parents, Charles and Judy. Both grandparents soon notice stark changes in the boys, personalities and behavior. They were very attached to their father and clearly distressed to be away from him. However they were also aggressive and angry. They must have learned their behavior from somewhere and Charles and Judy had no doubt that Stephen Josh were responsible. No matter how badly Charlie inbreeding wanted to see their father. Susan's parents knew Josh was a bad influence. Their worries only intensified after the boys began talking about the night, their mother disappeared. According to Charles and judy the boy said that when they left to go camping on December seventh. Mommy was in the trunk. The statement was horrifying. Charles. Judy took their grandson's to counseling and tried to tell police about what the boy said but the veracity of children's statements was and still is controversial. A series of studies performed since the nineteen eighties found the children were more prone to false memories than adults in this belief became pervasive in courts and law. Enforcement. A more recent investigation however called this belief into question and two thousand Twelve Cornell University researchers, Charles, brainerd, and Ballerina gathered new evidence that suggests children may not be any more prone to false memories than adults and can often provide testimony that is quite accurate. Dr Bernard and Dr Arena wrote that according to current scientific evidence. The principle that children's testimony is necessarily more infected with false memories and adults in that jury should regard adults testimony as necessarily more faithful to actual events is untenable although Charlie inbreeding statements could have based. In fact, officers were nevertheless reluctant to take their comments as evidence, but Charles, and Judy believe the boys were revisiting repressed memories from December seventh and that those recollections might be the key to discovering what happened to Susan. In the following months, Josh, trying to regain custody of his sons while the boys made even more disturbing confessions. Both of them told their grandparents that they often slept naked at their father's house and sometimes shared a bed with him. Charles and judy feared was hurting the boys psychologically and perhaps even sexually. Luckily police found the evidence they needed to deny Josh's custody request by early two, thousand, twelve, they reexamined items. Eight originally sees from Susan and Josh's home in Utah. After they got past the firewalls on Josh's computer. They allegedly found over four hundred animated images of well known cartoon characters engaging in sex acts. The images contain depictions of incest and. Underage. Characters. If they hadn't been animated, they would have been illegal to possess. According to Dr James Manley the psychologists tasked with analyzing Josh the reviewed images indicate someone's fantasy lead in view of having sex with children. Josh however, fervently denied allegations of viewing or downloading any such material on his computer. He admitted that he did use pornography but insisted that he always made sure the actors were of age. Josh likely pointed out that it took nearly two years from the time. Police seized his computer to win. They reportedly found the images. In. That time he suggested West Valley city police could have planted evidence against him. In any case, the images meet authorities wary of giving Josh custody of his children. The court higher Dr James Manley to evaluate whether or not josh was fit to care for Charlie and breed. Although, Dr, Manley said, the children clearly had a strong bond with their father. He nevertheless rejected the custody request. According to him, Josh suffered from an adjustment disorder with traits of narcissism which left him too focused on his own desires to properly meet Charlie and Brandon's needs. Furthermore Dr mainly found the images on Josh's computer highly disturbing. On February first, two, thousand, twelve at Dr Manley suggestion. The court ordered Josh to undergo a psycho sexual evaluation and a polygraph test to determine whether or not he post an active threat to his children. It's impossible to know exactly how Josh Feld, when he was notified of the court ordered evaluation. It's clear however that the test threatened to reveal a part of his mind that would likely cause him to lose custody of his children for good. It was a piece of himself. He would do anything to keep secret. Josh must have believed that his time as a freeman was waning. He would likely lose his children and if police asked the right questions, the polygraph might reveal the truth of what happened to Susan. He decided that if he couldn't have his children, nobody could. A few minutes before seven year old Charlie and five year old Brayden arrived for their supervised visitation on February fifth two, thousand twelve. Josh left voicemail for his family members. He said. I'm calling to say goodbye I am not able to live without my. And I am not able to go on anymore. Just before noon that day the social worker, a woman named Elizabeth Griffin. Arrived at the House Josh was renting. Charlie and breed sprinted too fast for her to keep up. Josh let the boys in gave Elizabeth a nod and slammed the door. Through the door. Elizabeth. Heard a child scream and she scrambled to call nine one one. According to Elizabeth Josh Powell's House lit up just a few minutes later as she sat helplessly waiting for help to arrive. By the time officers finally showed up they were too late. Josh let the House on fire and it burned. So fiercely that neighbor said, it looked like an explosion. Authorities finally entered the residence they found Josh Charlie and Brayden dead in the same room. A hatchet lay near Josh's body. An autopsy would later that all three of the Powles died of carbon monoxide poisoning but Charlie and Brayden had also sustained wounds to their necks before the fire took over. For everyone but for Charles and judy in particular, the tragedy was too awful to put into words. Neither of them could find the will to speak not to reporters not to family or friends not even to each other. A person Judy thought could only handle so much. Her mind was a jumble of sorrow for her grandchildren fury for the harm. Josh did to their family and somehow the tiniest sliver of hope that her daughter was still alive somewhere. All of these things she felt an equal overwhelming measure her heart couldn't handle it. Her whole body felt numb. Her only solace came from having Charles beside her. She didn't have to explain these things to him. They live the nightmare together. And together, they would have to pull themselves out. They had to find a way to honor their daughter and to make sure their grandchildren didn't die in vain. Everyone in Susan's family was shocked and horrified by Charlie and Brandon's deaths. As of Susan's disappearance wasn't awful enough now Susan sons the two people she would have done anything four more gone. Josh, me have avoided the court's ruling. Many reporters saw his suicide as proof that he was guilty of the murders of both his children and his wife. Jennifer now estranged from her siblings and her father agreed. For Charles and judy the worst part of Charlie and deaths was the fact that they had worn the court and the police numerous times that Josh was dangerous. They saw his violence coming they did everything they could to keep the boys away from him. Yet, the state of Washington ignored their pleas, putting Josh's rights as a father ahead of Charlie and Britain's right to safety. Although, Josh, the assumed perpetrator was dead police continue to search for Susan or her remains throughout the entire investigation authorities traveled through the states and searched more than four hundred mines. Still no conclusive evidence was recovered. In May two thousand, thirteen officers ended the active phase of their search. Years Past. With no new leads. Steve Powell was released from prison on parole in two thousand seventeen. Many people. Hope that as he near the end of his life, he would reveal any knowledge he had about where Susan might be. Unfortunately, Steve died at the age of sixty eight of a heart attack in two thousand eighteen. The only person left who might have been to provide closure on the case was gone. By January, two thousand, Nineteen Charles and Judy had filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the State of Washington and it was allowed to proceed. In July two, thousand twenty, a jury ruled that Washington. State officials were partially liable for the debts of seven year old Charlie and five year old Brayden. Charles and Judy Cox were awarded more than ninety, eight, million dollars. In a statement to a local Utah newspaper Charles said. Nothing can bring back the boys but this is the end of a nightmare and it's gratifying here at jury tell the state they were wrong and to award a verdict that will force them to change and make sure this doesn't happen to other children in the future. Charles and Judy established foundation and Susan Charlie and Britain's honor that provides support for families with missing loved ones and victims of domestic violence. They continue to hold out hope that their daughter will one day be found. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion, we'll be back Wednesday with another episode. You can find more episodes of crimes of passion and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. We'll see you next time when true love meets true crime. 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Unfiltered Episode 38 - Josh Payne & Rob Smead

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Unfiltered Episode 38 - Josh Payne & Rob Smead

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We're and welcome to another. Why are you interrupting? Mop fucking delivery of the. Hey everybody interrupting me go ahead. Kristie announced the show. Really really you're going to do that to me. Okay so here we are. We're going to leave that in there to welcome to another pandemic episode of a unfiltered podcast. I forgot where I was for Welcome to Scott. His Scott fucking world would get corentin corner. We've got we have first of all guys Christie's with US tonight that possibly and we have rob Schmead and we have Mr Josh Pain. The most hated man in the industry by me. Maybe well no. He's done forgotten about right now. Because that the damn pandemic so. We're going to stick with Josh for. Now what Josh? Josh people love to hate you bro. It is what it is. I just love Josh well. She dislikes your smile. Whatever you still look like my dad and your ten years younger than me. So I'm sticking with that that what I need to do. Oh my God my God I look so we're going to. We're going to just jump right into we're GONNA jump down a couple of rabbit holes tonight. This is go. Start OFF NORMAL. But it's going to end fucking crazy. 'cause already know where. Josh wants to go with this and I'm just going to know what we talked the other day and you're like I really wanted to podcast on this specific subject and I'm like that's fucking amazing but we have to have rob when I opened it up. You're going to remember real quick. Ish Meal Rob. Are you still with us? Okay How's your knee? Feeling by the way Josh Rob had Four ounces of liquid drained off of his knee today because he tried to run down and catch the ups man down the steps and took a tumble. Why are you laughing at it? Why the fuck you laughing at him? Bro. But you're doing you're doing okay. The ROB Because I saw the videos of them actually draining you. That Shit looked pretty painful. He does have a glass of wine. So let's jump into this. Josh made a comment awhile ago. Feeling bad for some supply companies. Rob You own a supply company Josh. Why Do you feel bad for Rob Great News? Cute right rob together. Right to swift's I is what Nokia Curve Right Touche. Oh Damn them's fighting. Words almost got you killed. That was rob's fault. This is true. Was Fun my oldest. Did Yeah Yeah are they had. They had not cancelled that you is that once. Oh Shit supposedly and I don't know I could be speaking out of turn here I was reading somewhere that The New York show is still going going on. I think it was July. Okay right what it's GonNa get worse. Yep Journals I'm not excited about at when it's going to see a spike true screen survey. Well this does not make me happy. There's only whereas well I mean. Of course it is true. You're right about that but hey since China's been back open. What's the numbers like I did? I haven't been watching this shit anymore. How Shit going in China does anybody know? Thanks wow well fucking great right. Well people don't think about it especially with the technology we have today is really fucking folks as well. I mean I can go live in the woods and don't bother me. No Shit Now Josh. You got your up there pretty good. I'd have to go back home But I wouldn't have no problem going back and fogging hanging out in would domain and Holler Shit. Be Good to go come on. We got plenty of room. He's got a cab and it is God so Josh I'm GonNa go ahead and jump right on into this then so this is the end of the world this time because there's been others there's been others there's been others rob would go go in nineteen ninety nine fucking owed ninety nine all what was that? You would like that all hold on hold on Route Rob Rob Rob hasn't heard this yet so right. Before the shutdown everything Rob Josh went ahead and paid about twenty eight grand on his taxes. They shut shit down and he said Fuck. I could have waited a little bit longer. I'm Joe. He told me that she felt bad. But I couldn't help but fucking laugh. I'm like only you dudes like two days later. They're announcing the out. We're going to extend all this shit. Josh like fucking great. Thanks appreciate that. That's fucking crazy it. You are in the paintings how many you've done so far since what since last. I mean you talk to you. I know you started three. Have you have you done more than that started? Shit you've been Yeah did you say his Chinese out? Carbon Rob Damn. He's he's been fucking doing it but ask him. That would be that would be co host and I have read some of those emails. I'm just GONNA say wow. Yeah the main right the cook your cooking show you've been you've been working on that Speaking of speaking of did you learn how to make the fucking pizza tonight or not. Okay now your pizza master because you had one class okay. That's what that was. That's usually how that shit goes too long as it wasn't like that. Tom Is in Buchan. Venice Shit was rough. And you ruined my shoes. Thanks appreciate that. True Story Rob. We saw human ship floating around in Venice. The most beautiful city in fucking Italy. Oh yeah there was human just floating everywhere. They were expensive shoes Josh. No that was not walking around in that city barefoot. This is true it was your idea together. Thanks for taking me by the way I think we all we got the fucking the Italian. No we had the Italian flu. That was the Italian flu that time. Shit it was. Oh my God i WanNa talk about about this. These theories though Josh. That you've come up with out of these books we got we go down to Real Rabbit home because rob I think rob is GonNa love this well. Let's talk about Ishmael for a few minutes because Rob Rob actually started reading. It chew changed. Uh-huh Ireland Yeah Career uh-huh Land Italian leading up to his arrival Baltimat- lately. Right from the start. How uh-huh has to be somebody was And the jewel true pitch touches to this product. I'm sure that's yeah that's pretty fucked up was to me right but they they know a lot of a lot of shit because it's so easily available on your Foams and Shit now rob Amen Discovery. Yep but then motherfuckers but then living in in In the rainforest they still around. Yep So when when corona takes the world out the damn rainforest people that goes to be living. They're going to populate the planet again Sean. Sure how yeah. Yeah so they say right. You know yeah you can see shoot twenty four twenty four trillion eight hundred sixty billion It just went up a million dollars as to sit here and watch this thing. Answer which Rob The population. China's one point four billion three hundred twenty seven million in the United States. One point three one point three billion in India. Yeah Forest River of course lots force. You're treated Ho Ho hold on hold on hold on a minute Josh. So the USA right now says that we have one million ninety five thousand cases of covert and Jonah is eighty two thousand according to this up-to-date covert report. Yes his ARC That is that isn't saying The population was one point. Three billion. Let me go back to it was. It was a hot on eighty eighty thousand. Let me look golly on. You're going too fast. Three hundred twenty seven three hundred twenty seven million in the United States over a million cases. Now no no hold on yes. A million cases in three three million total. Let me let me go to this thing. That's what it said biggest coal and much and the town. Yeah we're we're over a million everybody else's way below us yet. China is that eighty thousand breath. Yes that's true. Too Jesus. Accidents there was a I saw today. I was reading in There's a tattoo or that had made post and I'm not saying I'm here but the post was Work work until I die or something during this thing and he actually died and hold on. Don't don't but listen so so then I go to research a little bit more and it was in. It was in the Louisiana and they actually listed his name on the The website that they had confirmed cases of people that had died and had people's names on them and his name was on and he was attacked tour and he he posted up till the day. He died but will like nine days before he died where he was working in the shop. I'm agreeing with you on that. I'm just saying it was. It was due to read. The whole thing was kind of like what the fuck in the to read that one comment that he said and then nine days later he was dead. I was I was in Loja Day and it was. It was quite busy and they actually the This was last week. There was a case in Texas that somebody that they said they had a employee at Lowe's from corona but I went in there and Balsam should anyway. What in the hell who? Who's having a concert party times? It Robs Josh. You need to watch his tick talks breath. You need to watch Rob Rob's been getting his stuff kicked off a tick tock quite regularly. Did you get one up? Finally it must. It must be nice to have the professional cameraman. Livin with you. I'm just going to say that now. His shits good. Yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah no trust me I. I know I know Josh. Josh doesn't surprise me ever. Oh he will not ain't no problem with that people get him now. People people have you have you They misinterpret what you say a lot of times. That's what it is. Yeah don't don't don't thinking stories. It's true show Josh. Charter to work night Right Yep Were trying to get to you. Hold on hold on puddle. There is a let's see Yemen Yemen. Only has six cases of Corona Yemen. Yemen WII Ame in Yemen Vatican City Vatican City only has eleven coordinate. Fuck Josh do do what you did. Well true it's Oh my God when you still. Are you still working on that one? All the the okay now because it wasn't nowhere near done so I wasn't going to comment on it. I'm still tripping out over China saying they only had eight thousand cases of Focal Corona Rock. Choir. That is crazy. I suppose Let's see yeah dude. It was right outside of apex. Josh right outside of Raleigh. Yeah does fine or something. Are you serious. So they open it all ever. I'll really but they arrested my fucking God. Will they took? They took this fucking jail. Well he tried to find. A loophole in the governor's statement that now it didn't work at all. It did not work in his favor. but You know I think a lot of people you know. They saw Georgia mega dialogue. We'll fuck it. I'm going to Georgia gain. Yeah no you're not not happening shit. Donna PEOPLE TATTOO ONE HUNDRED. Right Josh. Fuck it I'm going to start painting again he did. Are you talking to your paintings yet? Though that's the question. Well can we my God who will hound white? Yeah Oh my God. That's that's a good video for you. Josh Oh man the times they suck. He's an apprentice. Bid Hundred. Yeah sometimes it's rare but yeah right YEP taper off. Yeah they have nothing nothing to fall back on right right right. I mean I agree with you on that I do. I agree with you on that. I would like to have a shirt that you know when steadfast made the tattooed employed shirt we need to make some tattooed and unemployed young. Oh my God. I haven't seen that one who who who did who made it okay. But y'all y'all he was talking about I. I saw that y'all was talking about quit worrying about yourselves and help the other people out in the community community right. Yeah he did this turn. You're right there's so much these people do and look Dave Clark went out and got him a damn job. What's he doing? Robbie was delivering food for Uber. Some Shit Door Dash and there was actually some people talking shit and I'm like what the fuck demands gotta work. What I'm saying is at least. He's doing something he's not sitting around bitch and at least he's doing something and you know. I know a couple other guys. Hell one of them's working in a grocery store bagging groceries and I'm like Shit you know. And he's he's not bitching and he's just like fuck. I'm happy to be working like Damn No. You don't deserve it. Go Work for what you could expect an I mean. Hey It is what it is Well I mean look. I was around when you when you bought your property when you started now. Well we're not talking about that point. I'm talking about for you personally right now and I was fixing to actually give you some props motherfucker. I might take the ship back what I was. GonNa say was you know. I've I've been around you long enough to see you make a lot of money and instead of blowing it like crazy you bought some land. You paid for you got you did. You didn't make payments you fucking paid for. You paid for you fucking house that you built so tv now that TV that TV show had nothing to do with that house. I know that for a fact way before that and But that also that also comes in handy to have fucking Ford Brothers. You know and So you know I'm I'm fucking proud of you for fucking doing your shit and And being legit and You know I think right right right exactly. That's that's a Nice Rolex Man. You only made fifteen grand last year. Fucking sweet bar. I don't hold on Auto I was GONNA say I was also there when the when the irs came in and outer did you. So I know what what was what was happening. And it was quite funny because there was nothing to hide and you know and they were kind of like. Yeah this is. This is awesome. Yeah just here this yeah. It was good but now I I will say though I will say Josh did have an awesome auditor. The first time the first one was good. Now League Max right out duty pay a half. A million dollars shit was crazy. Yeah Yeah but they got. They got They got Dan in one. One fucking swoop. Though it was it was it was eight hundred grand total and it was Well now dance was his ex wife They had they had worked. He had the legit business and everything but she wasn't paying the taxes and he didn't know it because she did all the paperwork will then she laughed. Took what was left in the bank and Shit and then our s came knocking on doors. Says hey you owe us this much money? He's like what the fuck dude he fucking. He sold a bunch of Shit and he fucking pay this shit off ever fucking penny gave every fucking penny. He paid it back. And and what was it robby? They sent him a check when it was over for twenty six bucks. He overpaid he overpaid. He said it's best overhead in his life De. Yeah but you you what was it like? Hold on the Damn Ma Ma Daughter'S COMING IN HOUSE. My disrespectful child the dogs go crazy. So just don't pay attention to them. What was it Josh? Sixty after taxes? This fucking lot less than a hundred thousand Speaking yeah I I yep no not true. I'm happy with my little house Yeah you you said you said it. The other day live in a tiny house. That would be fun. Yeah we we've had some good times. Yeah Yeah Josh called me. Hey man what are you doing for the next? At first it was four weeks and I said I don't know what he wanted to and said let's drive cross country on my list. Well I think the fun part for me and I you know Josh you can. Charmian was when we did that. You know we we. We had scown of a plan at the same time. We didn't really care where we ended up and There would be times when well for coming through fucking Shit those mountains Show Yeah what. Not but that was as after that. But I'm just saying well. Antelope Canyon was awesome. Because again I didn't know that Shit was there and then all of a sudden yeah we just pull over some. We're like fucking looking for stuff and we didn't know phone service and We we back up a little bit. You get fucking phone service and then all of a sudden we're like we're at fucking Antelope Canyon and Josh sightless Godin said well it says it sold out and it was like what was it like a two week waiting list. Wasn't it and then we get Josh Mexico up there and he's like I'm GonNa try it anyway. We literally got in because two people didn't show up and these people were looking at us like fuck y'all you know Kinda Shit and It was fucking awesome dude. But you know again. I'd never got to go see that Shit. Had Josh not like to talk to people or we didn't go cross fucking country and waking up in the ozark mountains with a fucking weird as looking dog trying to lick Josh to a Hammock. It again kind of like this. It's never going to happen again. And I got the video. That stuff of of this fucking do deduct. That was huge and Josh had no idea. Yeah exactly yeah that would have been awesome for you But it was good man. It was it was fun we ended up in Zion Zion National Park. And did what now. Oh Yeah Oh my God. That's it was crazy. Suck Dude and they kept giving us beer man and like we didn't really realize how many yeah but but see. I didn't like it. So Josh just keep getting them. Keep getting we had. We had a case of beer on the fucking plane and some fucking wine and shit. The stewardess started giving us everything and I told Josh Mike. You might as well take her into fucking bathroom broke because she keeps on until something's happened. She fell in love with him. This dude issue it was funny as Hell but God. That's fucking awesome. Oh Yeah I had a Josh Rob would be a good one to take a dam road trip with actually no this no. I really think this needs to happen. The three of US probably need to take no. That's what I'm for. I'm going to go. Obviously this is had look if they shut us down in June. Can we go to a road trip for about a week and a half? Well I'll go. I'LL COME JOSH. Komo down here while ago Tennessee. Look I don't know I don't like the the right hand side. That knows Josh. The lips look good. Denies looks like Shit now. You well the bottom of horrible. You know when I do that what happens. Exactly it comes out better anyway. Knows looks like Shit Rob telling the truth. It doesn't do you know what a Goddamn nose looks like Josh. You've saved millions Rob Rob Trust me. This is how you have to talk to him when it comes to this stuff. I'll show it to you know it's going to be way way better. You said that last week we ain't seen nothing yet didn't either. How DOES UTAH UTAH? Oh Rob Are you. GonNa talk about the guy that does the pendulum in his garage with the paint buckets. I like that too actually. Exactly fuck it. I'm doing if I can sell them for forty bucks. Don't Oh speaking of Josh. I actually wore your shirt. You're selling shirt. Yeah the one that they they end up sending you the shirts and you just literally just gave them the People Tam. I can't get you to fuck and talk about Shit. I know I'll get you drunk. Dog Get you talk about it one of these days. What are you doing? Oh did you. Are You chugging? Look he's chugging liquor bottle and the beard backing it with beer okay. My bed root beer would be good right now. What you got ours. What are you making a float? Shit Josh what you think about that. No don't be drinking the white glove. God Josh how Josh. Where did you get the captain's wheel and back there on the wall okay? We'll tell me the story please. That is a full-size fucking off. A pirate ship. No Shit Rob. Look at that thing. Rob's gone that is fucking awesome dude. How big is that motherfucker four feet? That one's Dope Bro. Hold on did you hear about rob said the SS pain. I love it. That's not you. Oh my God. What is in your fucking nose drill? That shit out didn't look like some herpes coming out your nostrils bro. I like to art art rooms. Nice but I mean you could at least paint the fucking ceiling but well I- Josh. We're coming up there when are becoming rob next week. Or what? Keep him in the back side of the house. Oh my God quit being a bit. He just invited us an uninvited us in the same sentence. He's I talked to my roommate. I paid for this house. But I'm GonNa tell my roommate I don't give a fuck. I'm coming that with the different situation. You have respect for what for what. How WHOA Whoa wait a minute rob with it? Would you decide Josh? Yeah I was GONNA say he didn't want to go back on that one again. You motherfucker all right. Do you WanNa go to Tennessee. Are you on us? Come up there. What did you want to do what no I win over that last week? I watched it when it came out. I I'm always up. Yes drop you haven't seen it no. It doesn't but but Josh you also have to admit watching the video that there's no way that nothing made on this planet that we know of could do that thing did and it's on radar and it's on what. I'm not even going there dude. I'm saying that somebody from fucking quagmire. Fuck implanted whatever. I'm just saying that it could have been from bill. And Ted's excellent adventure. I don't fucking know but whatever I mean in that video bells right right an in that I can totally get on board with one hundred percent with an allegri with that and again but with what you just brought up with the phone company and stuff and and doing the things that I used to do for them and the things that I saw that people would never fucking believe you know because the military has has way more fucking advanced than what they let us know and A lot of a lot of their communications obviously comes from phone companies. And I'll just say it like this when DSL came out years ago I don't give a fuck. I'm older should I don't care? Was He pulled out his costumes but look DSL. Been around since the sixties Bro. I mean I know it's it's out it's outdated Shit now but at the time when it first came out people thought this is fucking amazing digital subscriber loop but that's just been out since the sixties. I know. I talked him the other day. He wants to come on Sir. Right rush right mark right. Hershey guy top wrote right curve. That's what was thinking about a while ago was when we went there and we got to see Mother Nature taking back her city right income cooking deep. Rob What you think about that. Shit dazed right. That's just crazy. Really fucking do what rob. Yes this this Kinda Shit when you talk about at Mount Zion Pitch Black Zero light right. That's true too yeah. I think you're right. I was going to ask the professional one minute. Robs that would you said okay. Yeah that that's just not gonNA happen. Yeah I'm saying not with the same fucking person damn five seven six seven. Name me core. Yeah it is super torture era interest. Yep Yeah Jim's good that's true the past few days. I've actually been hermit originally well sometimes. Sometimes I cut my phone off for a couple of days Donna Rob. I'll see what rob would say. Exactly get my fucking horizon back. They give me twenty five free gigs and I went to desert and thirty minutes. Yeah I know dude that's going to be fucking crazy like shit. Yeah that's that's where I've been honestly it is. I like being on the farm when I do. Go out there getting on the tractor and just doing shit cutting loose. I won't even discuss it separately. Damn look it's not been bad here Rob Rob. You had some snow. Not Too long didn't you? He's in Indiana Erie Indian. He's in Gauche and he he did almost killed some fucking amish. People went down to visit him. I wasn't expecting to see Amish. People around Rep Drops House. But there's there's quite a few communities look like a little more than the SIP. Yeah always GONNA be fun. This is going to be some good ship. Hey I bet you that rob would do some DMZ with you on the road. Well y'all bring it with you on the road trip and y'all condemn trip corners. Possible can get on board with that. Yeah whatever you watched what. Which one is that? I haven't seen that. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yep I do love that movie Yes God thanks appreciate that. Sh- my God posit. While ago. I was wondering what the fuck you were doing. My God. You're right look great fucking nasty. God Challenge we had damn challenges. Yeah brought to you. Yeah Yeah could you been there? I didn't put the Parsley. Oh lower yeah it is. It is really sad. Didn't last nobody no time. Nothing right. Yeah exactly that that shit was it was. It was good. It was good right. Yeah I can survive. Have you seen any of the videos of the The farmers and the ranchers that are being told to Kill some of the stock and Lob Stock and destroy some of their crops because the do this real. There's was there was there was one of those guys the other day There was one of them. He was on the video. And he's like you know I'm having the dump six thousand gallons of milk because I can't sell it and he's telling people if you can use it come get it. And what what what what. He couldn't give away. He was having the dump it out on the fucking ground because it was just going bad. Yup sure been awhile. I can't I can't get anybody right shit true in property right not Arena yeah welcome to the world. Hey Richard Branson even put his Aland up for collateral to try to get along the other day. Yeah he was even. They talked about You know he just just released that fleet of Cruise ships that were like forty million dollars a piece to build and now he's he's literally read. This was like three days ago. He's like he don't know what he's GonNa do because he he can't fucking run run shit so sweet good job Jeff because we we need that. Well the I'm sure the twenty thousand people that wake forest just furloughed last week. Really appreciate that world clock rounded right fucking fucking awesome. Yeah Yeah see now when I saw the one about purdue because it's right down the road right that GonNa kill it now he. He's being facetious right. And the government won't let them. Yeah right now. Yeah Yeah. That's it's going to be bad vision. You're going to go away. That quick off right rape is like what you said. Go with them. People never million dollars people shut down and ran kind of like. Whoa right right works right. Oh Shit hit right what? Wow No shit straight here it is. Were really out there. Are you serious right behind you? Good fine that is crazy. New Technology replaced. Yeah fucking crazy. Right frees a year more or less story. Don't be buying T. REX isn't pipes. Oh Lee Shit look we. We've been on here an hour and forty minutes so we need. We need to cut this. Because that's GonNa be a Gig a half of shit two hours. I don't give book. I thought was going to say what you will do Josh. Yeah he'll go anywhere but he's he likes Tennessee. There's mountains in Tennessee. We'll go to Tennessee mountains. In Virginia's got some good mountains. We've got the hammocks already. We'll we'll go to go hang out with Derrick Derrick Don I down anyway. No we're going we're going we're going we'll we'll go the Holler over. No you're not okay. We'll do this. We'll do this. Rob Josh Josh. Josh do you think about where you WanNa go and rob you think about where you WANNA go. That's Alaska Josh. Oh my God now. Now you're turning now. You're turning to Mike. Eaten and you're gonNA be a captain. Are we taking that fucking wheel on your wall with all right so I don't talk have no idea? Let me hold them limit. Let me go let. Let's find that record. It can't be that cheap. It's a fucking hot air balloon. See Pretty Big Rob. Let's see here You say how much minimum the C. Damn I don't want to fly on a used hot air balloon that we don't even know how to use damn says email for pricing must be high shit Kayla's here Alexa. What's the average price of a hot air balloon? Top result for hot air balloon as we will probably ten air balloon eighteen inches. It's twenty four dollars and forty bitch. I wonder how much she's she's fucking crazy. She lied. She's talking about something else. Let's see from right here. Thirty five thousand in up up. Josh Ira Robbins found. You used them for twenty five and then here's one here's one here's one for two hundred thousand. Holy Shit here. Here's a two passenger for forty five thousand brand new doesn't it doesn't get a lot of. D- doesn't this There's not uh it's red. It's Red Oh my God. Here's one for sixteen thousand seven hundred Lord have mercy now. Who's WHO's the pilot. He does have the wheel. Oh my God oh my God. Can we cook on at the same time? Oh God we're already dead art. Look you think about where you WANNA go. Rob's going to talk about where he wants to go and then tomorrow we'll we'll talk and we'll forget where we're going rather talk and rob. I will call you morning. Yeah I thought he later bye. Thank you joining us on this week's episode of unfiltered with your host Scott. Whitaker be sure to tag US and give us a follow on social media and Electro Radio or on the web at electric radio DOT COM. Thanks for listening and we'll see next time.

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EP 33  - STRONG LAYUPS & REBOUNDING GUARDS with Josh Hart & Matt Hillman

LightHarted Podcast with Josh Hart

29:44 min | 4 months ago

EP 33 - STRONG LAYUPS & REBOUNDING GUARDS with Josh Hart & Matt Hillman

"Welcome back to another episode of the light hearted. Podcast this is your co host. Matt hillman yet. My lovely coast over there. Josh hart chilling and oklahoma city. Doing a podcast before the game real dedication doing good. I'm trying to figure out how i should have this. I wanna lean back. How do i want this. Mike had the mic. Like this we go can lean back this way if you were somewhere more permanent. I'd say we could get you. Know they have the mic stands. Where it's like. It's like the arm where comes up kind of goes right in front of your face will invest in that. When in the offseason baz you guys know the hearted. Podcast is sponsored by goose. Greg who's thank you so much for being a part of the light hearted family amazing cocktail to drink during the holidays. When you're winding down relaxing with your friends who doesn't love grey goose. I know joshua's we've had a few nights where goose has been a huge part of it. All you gotta do that best man. We drink water. Those important for us backs is important to have a sponsor that that was authentic us. But i would say it's been a really challenging year for us but there's always bright stuff to look at. We got basketball back. We have an amazing starts with nba season. Great start for josh here. So i think that's exciting. And it's definitely worth being. Thank before and just excited to relax. Kickback enjoy some gray goose. Sip on a tasty drink which is our goto cocktail especially the grey. Goose holiday punch is the best cocktail to toast to all the good things about this holiday season. And the best part is that goose's actually making it easier than ever to enjoy that well-deserved cocktail and you don't even have to leave your house to make it so drink. a visit. Drink grey goose vodka dot com and in one click. You can have a grey goose holiday punch cocktail kit. Delivered to your door comes with everything you need to impress your quarantine crew sip responsibly. Imported by grey goose importing company coral gables. Florida vodkas forty percent alcohol by volume distilled from french cheers from the light hearted podcast family to yours. My man josh sipping on good good age to over there. Because he's in season and he has a game so we have asked nevada as a beautiful thing. How's everything goes tuned to unfortunately s by by phoenix on national tv but Good thing about the lee is this year. You have a game every other day. So short memory left to so play too much. I texted i to say. But i texted mikhail after i was just like. You really didn't have to do like that and just takes back. But that's the thing about the league is like that can happen to any team at on any pretty much. I mean look at who. Who was it in the beginning of the season. That the clipper is the clippers that got smacked by on my rex wax Milwaukee killed miami the other day. Milwaukee got killed by twenty thirty but knicks So it's actually like a like this year has been a lot of gave that had been blowout but any given night anything could happen and s the beauty of the league. Click looking good. Yeah they're three and one. I think god on twitter who the undefeated thinking with the magic the magical the only team that were three now. I don't know if long. I think the the foreign though. I think that only before and the only undefeated team an mba so while marquel actually playing really seen too much. Yeah i think he's averaging like twenty years when he won. This is so funny. I don't know why i only knew. This may blow out before like question. Who is your if you had to put her early. Early favorite out there for most improved. Who would you would you. But i don't know this is a very small sample saw but mark mark cows and who've in maceio been hoping Think do you think there's any world where lou dort get. Possibly i gotta i gotta see more. How exactly that one is but possibly even hoping this year on his i'd like he won't get it but like beat like do i be. I improved a lot from last year. And that's crazy to think but he's been killing especially the beginning season and with a with carbon player of the week. Tyler here is another one. Obviously he had. He had an an awesome year last year. But he's he's actually. I mean do seem fifteen. The league is just the league this year so i think kobe whites another one. That could be a lot a lot of people that have been in. But like i say you know. Four games into the season so far sample sizes really small. But i'm curious to see. I'm trying to think trying to look and see who else i can think of but know we'll go we're going to see is going to be very interesting. My money's on you know a going into this season obviously a weird weird offseason one just because of the scheduling to for you. You spend a lot of it. You know getting right and rehabbing and stuff. What was what was offseason like for you one just due to the scheduling but to do to your personal your own personal situation and would you kinda what did you. What did you look to improve. Say twelve ten or twelve week loading program. I need to kind of you know my ten. You know try to string attendance during the stuff like that and obviously and all that was good bid that wasn't really able to do too much basketball activity so All thinking you know beginning of november is probably oh. We won't start until the early to a started january seventeenth or eighteenth. Whatever for okay day or you know maybe and there was room with a p. Might might not starting to mid february and stuff like that. So i'm kind of thinking like you have a lot of time. So i can kind of really be a particular kind of what i do when really just focus on into strength and loading aspect of it and then You know when. I when i'm all good with that and called bag go into to the basketball activity. And then they hit us with would be playing right before christmas so you know when they announced that i have have. I didn't touch a ball. You know sense the last game. When did you can report. The camp december third. This i was so You know now. That was the first time in like traffic with the first time. I plead like five. Five baseball You know trying to tweak shot you know this summer and do and do that in of have more of a different Shot pocket and try to get it released a little and stuff like that but with us kind of being surprised of how early we're going to be in just a the time. I want to say the time limit but just how also pressed for time. I started kind of try to change it a little bit. And then now honestly i'm i'm kinda back to our what before. 'cause i'm just thinking i'm like you know i'm trying to change. Its own but now no now. I'm in season so now is trying to change his shot in season is it's just so hard to do and we've got a good shot. Shot coach no new orleans but we have a lot of guys that work with them with you know. Be iso zion so tom. China like you know fit time around. You know with those guys to work with him and stuff like that. I'm just like you know what to do next year. And just kind of go back go to you know to to what have what i know what was called right now but Off season was it was. It was chaotic. But you know it is what it is. I don't think anyone kind of knew exactly what we were going to be doing. And how we're going to do it so can't complain too much. I'm sure there's you know a bunch of other people that were my position. Yeah and for what it's worth this. You can't tell me you're you're you're playing the games out. Actually you know four games in departments. Don't even know what it is. Probably like mid low thirties. There'd be a little bit better but you know. Somehow i always end up with you. Know a couple of grenades at the end of shot clock end of the half. So roehi there and when you're when you're in rhythm you don't mind grenade to blake when you get into the game like that's like your first shot not the best pro real quick i went to i went to google. Your three point percents typed in josh. Hart and i usually go to like basketball. Reference dot com. But the first thing that come up or josh hart proposes to girlfriend but social media goes crazy over his booty and then fans went wild on josh. hart being cheap up votto goddess Okay you are shooting thirty one percent from three. She's seventy percent from old. Okay is what. I'm seeing here and then set. Looks like seventy percent from from the free. Throw line as well. There was a point where you were at the thirty three percent for the free throw line. My first i started like the over to like one for two next game and some our surprisingly. You're actually rebounding the ball. More like seventy seven or half numbers. Two steve. and. Get out the way y- stephen rebounds while but one one one offensive rebound per game. Which is which is also a career high for you. It's not bad thousand will going into contract here. How how's it. Been with some of the new guys on the roster. It's been cool but As i said everything been you know short. So we don't have like last year or you know normally no for so many years. I train campbell be sometime. During september mid to mid to late september and a lot of guys are getting kind of in into market mid to late august In you guys kinda start started to pick up and stuff like so we started. They've getting somebody that chemistry you start being somebody chemistry monther mother month month and a half before the season starts here made this year. It wasn't like that. I don't think Let's say but it just takes them saying baller alert. What's it got this year. I think everything being so condensed starting training camp were the first time we saw you know some of our teammates so it was definitely different. Definitely taking a little bit longer to get adjusted and a cousin to you. Know some of the other guys games just because you know we don't anytime we started you. We're able to play with them. We're in the training camp so it's tough especially like this year got training camp but now the game every other day you know. In prior seasons you might have a game. They like two days another game or sometime could have three game or three days should be able to get some blows reps and practice and compete in practice and no gifts them. You know. we're gonna build. That comes through in practice here. You can't really go hard and practice because you got a game every other day for for for three or four months so is taking a while to you. Know get their chemistry and get accustom to guys on the court But you know as good they all are guys Greg guide to be around. So it's it's fun. We just you know it's going to take a little bit of time to just to kind of figure out where you know where people like the ball where to operate from what they're comfortable with what they're not comfortable with and those kind of things you know stephen adams far with opportunity to go five hundred so yeah stephen adams always like struck me as long as you never wanted to play against them like you hated him being on the other team but you love you. Love having him on your team honestly. I loved playing against stephen adams just because against our big against him just because our our big man to put so much effort into trying to get him off the glass. I'll be able to get all the rebound. So if you look at my rebound numbers if you look at my rebound numbers against oklahoma city. Probably thirteen rebounds. Game i games. I play like five minutes game. Two are like plead twenty plus minutes probably average like twelve twelve with like something. Like wow like i think like two times i had fifteen rebounds against okay is he loved it but as a funny thing i was talking to steven one time i think after the san antonio game he was like is brought like i love when like when guards come down to you know come down grab rebound and stuff like that. I love. I love when without guards do that aggressive. I love you. I'll see fourth quarter. You know you i'm gonna. I'm grabbing a rebel fourth quarter. I gotta make sure you know. We get the rebound crunch time and all that best job. But he would love having aggressive rebounding guards. That are my teammates. I'm just like all right. Makes you keep that energy. Because i need to go out. I'm grabbing my rabbit. Somebody's board from your big fat so but I love steve o's devos he's hilarious and you and you wouldn't think he is but he's he's hilarious. He's one of my favorite guys listening. That's awesome is weird to. I mean if you think about some of the rookies or whatever like obviously it feels like yesterday when you come into the league but is it weird to be looked at as a vet. I'm not relooked at too much of avert right now. You know. I'm not gonna have them year though the this is my fourth year but definitely just because i think so you so say some guy that played a lot of minnesota. If you get let me got bled. Who's thirty one. Jj who's you know thirty five. Thirty six violate novel violator. But i think those two and then steam is our next a next oldest at the end of the year. Molly malibu melis already been league for no second year. Then steve twenty-seven seven he's been in the league like the his year and then. I'm like the next oldest the rotation right now so it's it's definitely a little is kind of weird but If you if you as the guy they always say a thirty two year old man. So i guess i'm kinda just just accustom to i mean you came into the league not not old but not eighteen. Not those those the college they definitely count so like. Obviously molly four years into the league right now but don't them for your colleagues as they continue to go going into like to like my sixth year. You know what my legs aren't like the young god league and i gotta get like a good stretch. Good warm up right before. I got my my knee pez vibrating. You know why. Before i get on to go on there on the court so strong legs strong leads all the jags hayes. I can just walk onto the court and do like a you know an east bay or three six hundred getting warm. you know. Got that luxury anymore. Jackson he he jumps like so quick to like. If you're a defender you don't jump with them. Like don't like just get out like he takes out of nowhere if you if you supposed to be a bigger role if you let them put their second foot down fuck. Yeah because he's gonna dunk on you. Or i think he i think he hit. Who was the contin. yes. I think he hit him work You know lay aboard you like you want to rise up and you drive unia. I think he hit hit hit pat content at the hell out of him man. You better get there. Get there early. And don't get that. So i think that i like about jackson's even if he's not gonna be able to dunk it he's still gonna try. He's still going to try and get out You go for the holiday. Play facts a bad thing whatever. So how like how of practices and you kind of touched on it. But how practices changed from last year to this year. Not just like. I know you guys got a new coach. Just like with the season. Big so much more compressed. Now it's so obviously you know we got a game say last year we had a game. day depending on the schedule. You know say we got a game on monday and we have another game to to Thursday you go in tuesday have kind of a lighter pract you know nothing too crazy because i've the day after the game so it kind of kind of get moving and do some some dummy stuff and That's really about the extent of that one and then the next day you kind of get after a little bit obviously not too much of the game before but you you have a good heart our where you really getting after five five competitive stuff like that but now we can't do that because they got a game every other day so now we have to really be there mentally and have the you know and get better watch some film. Get better with You know going. Going through offense of defender schemes. You know slowly because obviously when When you're competitive especially with young guys when you competitive you know and you have to our practice and you got plan five or five. Everything's good you got plan hard button your but doing all those things but a lot of times people struggle when you slow things down and you know you're you're walking through defensive schemes. You walk through offensive play calls and stuff like that and then you're mice are going to places like you you you wanna be there just like your mind is trying to go one hundred miles an hour and right now. I don't need to go one hundred miles. An hour need to go ten deaf. So that's kind of what we have to do now. We have to get better with Get better in terms of just watching film and mentally going through thing that a slower speed because you know if we try to practice for an hour and a half and get after it you know for practices. We're going to. We're going to burn out very quickly this season. So that's something that we really have to do. It is something that we're focusing on It's not easy but you know we're getting better at it and You know that that's what we had to do this year. So we're looking forward to the challenge. I think we've done a good job so far this year but You know he's gonna keep doing it. Yeah well with the increase. Focus on game planning and film out. Imagine that's where four years of college definitely comes in handy especially at villanova. You know deaf It's it's so crazy because you've met goes right you you've seen how coaches and his philosophy suffolk that bro him and stand or like do identical. It's crazy it's crazy stuff that he says i have a flesh bags and i'm just like what the fuck i got. I got i left. I got rid of course right to ask like i. I did my four year. I did my bid. I did my time with a mike. I wanted to get as far away from fucking coach. Right there was renting. I do a ton of code is i. Don't wanna die on the floor for those ball. I don't wanna take charge practice. I trust my body got games and all that and then get this year. And it's getting an elaine stop not quite jumps up. Stop getting lane. Don't don't doesn't like this jumping in the air to pass you know because the ball is on the rim did it is so many things that just coincide with coz right. His philosophy is just like shit on back at nova honestly. Has stan acknowledged like to you. This kind of like the similarities. That he shares coach ray and like has the knowledge that you're kind of standing on the player. Nah not no not too much. I'm not sure how much he's not because right But i don't know i just i. I told him perform like other. You must have hung out with too much needed. He laughed about it but were they. Did they ever over like do anything. The other usa basketball. Or i don't know. I wouldn't be surprised obviously I'm sure they've had a conversation with ran himself but It's it's funny. And then what what is what are they doing for all star break this year. Is there even are. you're not obviously. Is joe days off. Four hundred dollars out. Thinks they have already talked too much about it but most likely going to test because like if you if you miss a day of testing or something like that i think i had like four negatives like for four different days in a row we negative test so i think this is going to be like you know. Got four or five days off. And he's like you come in come in the morning and get tested and it's under whatever so one wanted a one year them just like damn what am i wouldn't mind being les vaux. The laker clipper blake. Here in la. You got the great weather it'd be. It'd be beginning of march so it would kind of be won't be too cold. But it'd be a little chilling lou orleans. Some thing like miami's probably i like. They're good lakers and clippers there in la later. Good even phoenix. Probably be straight was. I just hope it doesn't get too cold. Yes you look forward to today because you get away from the gold whereas all star was in indianapolis Yeah i think so. I think we're supposed to be and it's cleveland at some point. Was it next. maybe twenty. Twenty two oh. God did that one. You got to shut it. You got to move it around fairly I guess Cleveland oh man. It's not it's not like it was like. I heard toronto like toronto. Really toronto airdrops variety. It was what three yet to three years ago. Yeah like cleveland like no. You're wrong cleveland. Straight you know when my one of my good friends you yeah man. But i don't i don't i would not want to be in cleveland. In in in march. I'm going to be in columbus will let you know how it is. Good luck with. Don't brother i am not jealous. I got. I'm curious to hear what you think of this. I just got a text from cameron. And he said last-second heaves shouldn't count against the players field goal percentage. Unless it goes in it. Shouldn't it really shouldn't. But i don't know do do guys. If guys are like half quarter whatever do they wait for the buzzer to sound and then and then shoot it. Just just after that. Sometimes people would do that if it was like a hat like half court heave when it's like you know an actual meg somewhat. Maybe make three pointer they want. But what Is funny and now we're gonna wrap appearance at what water. What's important for you for the pelicans specifically for the rest of the season in order. Like the cops which you guys want to accomplish defensively rebounding and and and rebounding what we've been you know pretty good. I was like say this will like like nine. Nine th overall in defensive rating thing. We're top three and rebounding percentage So our standard eight teams usually perf- like hot rank highly defensively. Yeah so. I think you know we get a little bit. Better and defensive end Keep over rebounding where it did not get better. I think those those carry us throughout the season Offensively we gotta get gotta get better. You got to get a little bit better internal organization and stuff like that but obviously they come with time You know. I think that's part a little bit harder because you have to get used to everyone's strengths everyone's You know comfort level. You know new new new system and those kind of things with in defense of a new system guy is going to be offensively. it takes a little bit longer. So he's got to get better on offense of end In terms of organization. Take care of the ball into this kind of thing. We do that. We're gonna be you know we're going to be a tough team. We're going to be team that no-one i'll that a lot of guys are going to use normally was going learn new orleans nagai the rest guys and they think it's easy win now you know it's not that way and you know if we think we continue to do those things then we'll we'll be a force south got some dogs chop it with you. 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Josh Gad

"Hey everyone today's guest is the brilliant and amazing Josh Gad who you might know from the book of Mormon the Voice of Olaf in frozen one and two and a million other things. We were lucky. Josh was able to fit in between press commitments. I knew. HBO Series Avenue Five. Before we begin I want to read a couple of your letters the first from Laura to Jerry who we called with Pignataro and here it is I just finished listening to the episode with tag and Jerry Situation sounded very similar to my own only from the other side. I'm recently married to my complete opposite and we now have an extremely stable relationship but for the longest time it was trial trial after trial. I am very introverted. And often couldn't handle her boisterous personality. While she enjoyed our deeper conversations she was mostly interested in gossip Amore. Shallow topics topics that I couldn't stand. It didn't take me long to realize how different we were and how different she was from WHO. I always imagine my perfect partner to be as lonely as I was. At the time it was disheartening. For me to think of settling for someone less than perfect I liked her but we had innumerable differences and our fair share personal growth to experience. agreeance before I could see us. As a long-term couple after several rough patches over a few years we split up and moved away but we always inexplicably missed each other after plenty of time spent his friends and a lot of personal growth. We decided to give it another chance. It wasn't until it took the time to love understand and appreciate her differences that I could find true no interest even though I used to think of us as temporary now that I have fully embraced our differences. I can't imagine a more interesting and fulfilling relationship. This isn't to say David Jerry should stay with him. It's up to his boyfriend to want to change and learn how they can embrace their differences and work together but if anything can save the relationship. I'd say it's genuine the effort to understand and respect each other through open and honest communication. After all it's differences in unique experiences that make the world an interesting place to be best. Laura Laura. Thank you so much Laura. That is such great advice. I really believe that honors communication is one of the most important things in any relationship. It's also the answer to most relationship Jason Ship Providence. And it feels so good to really know someone and let someone really know you. This next letter is from Taylor to Dana. Who we called with Melissa views on your I was in a relationship for eight years and the same thing happened to me? I've got to tell you it did not work out for me. No matter how hard I try an old man I I did. It ended up causing so many more issues in our relationship than I could have ever imagined if he doesn't get professional help or at least try to move forward with the problem in the bedroom. Other problems we'll start to show up. I'm no professional. But a lot of the rage that started to stir within him came from the fact that he couldn't perform sexually in. This caused a lot of unnecessary arguing anger anger from his end. I tried to be as therapist but that was the wrong move. He promised he'd seek help but didn't suggest no and speak openly to him. You can't be the one to fix this issue. He has to do this willingly for himself. This is something that could really escalate. I hope the best for you guys truly. Good Luck Love Taylor. Thank you so much Taylor and thank you dear listeners. I really love how much you care about each other. I love your honesty and former ability a love your strength. I'm working on that too. Okay and now. Here's Hughes Josh Gap Ladies and gentlemen you're listening to qualify host on a ferris tash wouldn't feel like reading your own bio but would you like to read it in a particular accent. Yeah yeah that'll make it more fun all right. I'm GonNa let you choose between Australian or a talion. Okay Russian. What if I do a little bit of all okay? All right. We'll start off with Australia. I Guess Joshua Lawn Gad. He's an actor writer and producer. He was born on February twenty. Thad Nineteen Nineteen ninety-one in Hollywood Florida. It was there that he got his start performing high school musical theater. After graduation we need attended Nova University and then Carnegie Mellon College of Fine Arts of macadear amazingly few won a Tony Award for. He's a hole in the Buke of Mormon. He is also known for his roles in beauty in the east the wedding ring and the Voice of Olaf in frozen It's really deserted tremendous. Gosh I can't believe you did that. That was incredibly. Don't feel very good about my dialect insulted. Most of the world only Josh Yes chew secondary profession. Be If I weren't an upper sir. Yeah it's a weird one can guess please. Is it in manufacture not okay. Does it require a college degree. No maybe okay does does it involve international travel. Yes you're not gonNA get us and it's only recently that I've discovered this but I think I would have loved to have been an imagine near like the people who build the rides at Disney. Yeah my obsession is recent because I just had the luxury of meeting the people who designed those rides in watching the the documentary on Disney plus about imagineering and was like this may be the coolest job in the world that would have made a good lawyer actually almost law school. Oh I love confrontation. Lie just feels like it's fun. I also like the performance nature of a courtroom. Yeah both my brothers are lawyers and so I feel like I should have probably we. Are Your brothers older tool the brothers. You've partic- you're the youngest one and eight years. Maman data took a break like nine years. Are we still kind to your older brother. My middle brother was a real bastard to me. My parents got divorced when that was six and my middle brother was still kind of living overlapping in the House for two years before he went to college and he was. I think trying to be a father. Figure it out since I didn't really have a father figure the middle brother I know he was committed to replace the toilet paper deeper. Man You go shopping moon toilet paper man. You GotTa do your homework man. I actually used to hear one phrase over and over again USA. Look at me and he would say. Don't patronize me. What was I doing? That was patronizing at sick with his name. Jeff so here's what I tell me. Okay you as Josh. Yes yes six years old Glam stain did Jeff. Did you guys have separate bedrooms. Winter separate bedrooms. Jeff comes into room and he's like Yo Josh Josh. Yeah what the fuck like. Come on man you got to step up. They do to it from. My brother. Pardew reasonably wears his dialect. It's like a weird flurry by by way of Chicago. He also say this to me all the time which you would appreciate. When he was eight I was never gonNa make it as an actor that the average housekeeper made more than the average actor her and he told me that if I was a fuck up in school because I didn't do really well in school at first? He said that I was going to be the guy who put Pimentos and olives and I really believed for the longest time that there was a guy. So it's possible for putting mantos individually to tell me. I have an older older brother begging strong and he's a professor and I love him. I didn't see going that way. Big Strong adjectives leading into. He's professor. Sir No he used to say after I moved here. You're part of the most congratulatory industry that has ever been known to man what is is. He profess sociology. He's the war generation sociologist and his specialty is worth so your father and grandfather and my great grandfather are also see August August. Where does your lineage trace back to? That was like such a guess probably idea of atheism. We were French huguenot. S- I duNno off off. I know you're awesome guillotine. I should show it to you. Yeah yeah so that was like a family heirloom. That was passed down ankle. Oh you later Josh. Welcome who doesn't have a guillotine. Thank you so much Josh. Yes how did you meet your life so I was kind of a loss in the woods to borrow the title of a song from frozen to. I didn't know if I wanted to be in New York or or L. A. After college and graduated and we sort of like couldn't find my place in a buddy of Mine Ryan. Dickson was directing production of. David is on the timing like the small small blackbox theatre. Unlike Santa Monica Theater. Road called the elephant asylum. I don't even know if it's still there. He said I want you to do the show as fuck where minimum stays with me all right so I did this show and met this woman who I was really deeply attracted to. We had a table read for it. She was sitting. There is with my best friend Seth and was really drawn to her and I I was drawn to her because one. She's so beautiful. She's like such great presence. She was also like an amazing actor actor and then she laughed and she sounded like Fran Drescher. And I'm like I can't I can't no. I found that very unattractive ain't she found me very unattractive because she thought it was an arrogant arrogant faulk which she told me later on which tracks and so I started to do rehearsals and we were cast as husband and wife and I really like slowly just like slept reeve. Eight dreamt of her like I was just like obsessed with her body found out that she had a boyfriend. Can't ask you something. Yes when you describe this story as it was slowly on your part yeah. I believe that you were instantly attracted to end. I was instantly attracted her like I was instantly like she's hot but I fell in love with her during the course of this play and I started like asking what her deal was and she was in a relationship like a five year relationship and I ended up trying to convince the director to put in a scene. No where we kissed the WHAT WHAT NOT S. which at the time sounds romantic? But now it'd be Hashtag metoo probably and the director was like there's absolutely no reason for the because actually actually goes against the texts completely like no but I tried to do it and Louis I need to need to hear. How did I sit down? I was like I looked at him. And I'm like you know feel like the two of us were husband and wife and I think that like emotionally my character is GonNa die and I think that like like it'd be nice if they just have an intimate moment together where they kiss each other and like you just eat that love. What are you talking about? No so take a long story short. She breaks up with okay. We go out to the concert a friend who's performing an inaugural and and we ended up hooking up kissing in a men's restroom at the hard rock. So she's like I just need to go to the men. Forget two how we ended up in the men's restroom. It was a lot of alcohol. I remember leading us into the men's restroom. But that's when I learned that she was twenty nine and I was twenty three has hot and then Sh- she and I started dating and fill so in love and have two kids and have been together for a long time eighty nine years today. I know because I did my research. Search Your Greg thank you thank you yeah research stuff okay. This is an odd transition. So are there haven't been any bit on. I'm so I'm glad that we're keeping with the theme but I was thinking today before you came here about the idea of loneliness. Oh and I was thinking about how most people I think are lonely and so it was thinking about that specifically with our industry and I was thinking about you and performing on Broadway. I've wanted to hear. Hear your thoughts on on Lomas. Yeah is that I know it's intimate. No no no. It's actually very topical because yesterday my daughter water my oldest daughter WHO's nine. I dropped her off at a party and I just got in from New York City and she turned to me and she started bawling in to my chest. I said are you okay and she said I just I'm really GonNa Miss You saw and I said well baby I'm coming back to pick you up later and it. It just made me realize realize how much we have to sacrifice doing this profession because we're constantly having to go places even if it for a number birthdays. The psychology of my children now is that I could go on for days or months and we have chosen a lifestyle style that is to never disrupt their structure never disrupts their social foundation their relationships because of our choices in other words. I don't just take my kids and bring them to wherever I am because they didn't sign up for it right. That's not what they signed up for. It's what I signed up for so I started thinking talking about loneliness which I always confront when I'm away from my family. Not only in terms of me but in terms of what I'm doing to my kids and it's it's really hard you're very fortunate you get to shoot in la which. I'm so jealous of. I don't get that luxury and it makes me rethink a lot of the choices that I make because it's like do why. Why take a job if it's GONNA separate me from my kids and and if I do what are the benefits? What are the pros? What are the cons? I think anytime you're driven. It always separates you. Yeah but you know what's interesting about what you're saying it's not exclusive. You said the right word Dr. I'm reading a book about Thomas Edison. What did he do? Well even vented all all this everything that we're using today but like ninety percent of the book is about how his kids were basically afterthoughts especially from his first marriage they could never compete for his attention because he was a ways so devoted to his work and was always in the laboratory instead of being with them. Oh I think that goes back to the fundamental of few so driven then whereas your energy going can you balance it with family and work and I think you can but I think it's it's hard. Hey guys this week's episode of unqualified is brought to you in part by perfect bar on Friday morning I wondered aloud if it was a crazy idea to spend the weekend in Palm Springs. 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Yes okay we saying if I could invent something that's already been invented or something thing that hasn't been has been a mental. I wanted to get what you give it to me for my birthday. Whatever this thing that I'm inventing sure when is your birthday November twenty nine. I don't think it's possible. I don't think that I can come on stream dream so theoretically. If I can have done by your birthday I would love to invent a Marty Mc fly style back to the future to hover board and like not like BS Hover Board word. That people claim is overboard right now which doesn't hover and has a wheel. I want an actual hover board like the one I was promised in nineteen eighty nine. We love you on it. I thought you were given this to me. I want it so that I can gift wrap it and give it to you November twenty twenty your twenty seventh seventh birthday thank you okay here are some dealbreakers okay. Imagine you're single right on the first date she orders to dinners. You're you're telling me that's a deal breaker asking you is. You're asking. Yeah one thirty one to go one to eat there in one to go. Yes is that a deal breaker for you. Yes yes. That's a big deal breaker really. I'm questioning why she requires two meals like is she bringing it to like a vampire that she's harboring at home like what's it's strange. It's a strange thing to be like. I'll take it to dinners one for me and one for an unspoken reason for after after. I'm done with you here anyway. We have to do a little Improv. All right so you're Josh. If you WANNA be Josh. I'd like to uncomfortable with my. Here's where you're at. Have you been to the site in place. Oh haven't we all okay ready. Yes okay you can have to think the quickly on your feet about what. Move your shooting. Okay got it and you're at the bar at the Gerard Room someplace so you need to know okay got it. Oh my God. That was the crazy. Oh my God wait a minute weird. You're during that show where it's like everybody the book of Mormon and yeah. It's it's I I wouldn't call it crazy so much as it was job that I did that. Felt very nice so cool though thank you. So what are you doing. You're shooting. Yeah that's yeah. That's yeah I'm doing a live action reboot of the rescuers this down under this sequel. We feel like it lends itself to learn how to scuba dive. And so or no. Have you seen the movie. Rescuers Chris Down Under the Old Disney movie with the little mice. There's no like real scuba diving. Not even a scene that really lends itself to so we in James Bond. Become an actor right. I'm getting that vibe from you for sure but also I really admire you thank you. Yeah they were really really elitist. I respect you too. So what is there any way you want to go and go on getting back to you being an actor I would maybe think about other stuff too so appreciate your advice. Thank you hugh. Okay how did you handle your first teenage break-up I handled being broken up with fairly well I would think I like third grade. Fifth Fifth Grade. Yes fifth grade was the first time I ever dated dated whatever that means like we were dropped this we did kiss. My first kiss appeals crazy. My first kiss was at sleep away. Camp who yeah with a girl named Danielle. I wonder if she's listening to your podcast right. I just suon apologize because I think I used way too much teeth at the time and I didn't know what I is. Banged teeth was a lot of mouth. Percussion and now. Oh you're better at guessing. I think so I hope so. It's less teeth Moreton. Yes it's a lot less teeth a lot more tongue and more passion at at the time it was like a lot of breath support like I thought you may have to hold your breath and just bang from that was like the act of kissing impressed that at fifth grade I didn't get my I guess Titus Tireless Sixteen. I remember the song to the song that was playing with all songs. Yeah was I touch myself by the finals. Which is a weird song view Berkshire at it like a Jewish in the Blue Ridge mountains but that was the song that was trying to see and at the time I was just like? Oh Oh this is like a cool thing about somebody who really loves their body but not realizing that. It's a song about masturbation like not really putting that together. That was my first kiss. Not Miss. Her Daniel Churning out. Are you out there. Can I ask you about an embarrassing moment. Thank onstage a few yes I do really yes. I was on stage in the book of Mormon and I was very perturbed by an audience member celebrity. who was very ill behaved in the audience and I was getting fucking pissed watching them? I'M NOT GONNA mention names. There were in the show entourage Raj and I'm not GonNa say who it was. It was the lead And so I got really annoyed and and I was like thinking of what I could do what I can improve or what I could say in doing that. I lost my train of thought. Was this person doing. I don't want to shame them but they were but they were being very very like inappropriately distracting in the second row and so I was just like fuck this dude I. It was a man and I completely not only forgot the line but I forgot the English language V.. Importance of this. Is that the line that I was supposed to say leads into a song without the line setup. This song can up again and I don't know if you've ever had this moment where all you hear. Here's ing where like you just have like symptoms of tonight is in your ears. But that's what happened and I literally were shouting the line to me Stephen Arenas in the pit. The conductor was shot in the line at me. I couldn't hear this stage manager. Were shouting the line from offs. I couldn't hear now. Finally I look at my co star and I go what this is the brilliance of Improv skills. What the fuck am am? I supposed to say as the only thing that I think of that you have to understand contractually. If you've seen the book of Mormon the person that I asked this too is an African villager jour- who for the purposes of this story of our show cannot possibly question make sense so that was the single. Most embarrassing nightmarish experience of my stage for man was rough. Okay what is the trade that you most most disliking others. Oh that's good. The trade most dislike and others is obstinance like I think think that we can all afford to learn and I think that like social media specifically has made us all feel like experts In arenas that were actually not experts so a case in point of this is like I will find myself in unnecessary battles trying to convince ends people of the existence of something like climate change to me. There's like this obstinate. In that you know better than like experts that I find really frustrating. The yeah yeah okay. What's your favorite smell? I love the ocean. I love the smell of the ocean. Do you remember that time that I walked outside and met your father. Are there any looked at the hat. That I'm wearing. With says Samantha with a question mark and thought it was a reference to one of your movies. That was my favorite moment of today. I'm hearing are so proud of the fact that your dad had like a mental lexicon of the roles that you've played parents barely know I'm all off like you're this guy is a snowman technically mom they kind of come all day. No but like if I if you were to put a gun to their heads and say name the last five roles roles that your son played. They'd be dead. They'd be shot now they wouldn't know. Just don't WanNa tell you. They're telling all their neighbors in Florida. Are they still in Florida talk to. They're like oh honey. We don't even know who you are. Because Oh don't get a big head or anymore. Meanwhile they're like Ding Dong and like doc. Here's some muffins and also can we. You Couch Josh in this Josh creative where my brother You ooh Hollywood Hollywood the other Hollywood the bigger one crats and I have to tell you uh-huh I know it's crazy character parents that you've creative. They're so weird. Thank you for asking about but he is doing great aunt's rule even let me finish my routine. I'm responding responding to it because I'm really emotionally traumatized by this mother that I don't want at all well. The great thing about Josh is that he I feel your audience has learned and so much more than they've ever discovered any interview. I've ever been sorry. Oh great uh well so a few days ago UH. We received a mysterious package in the mail containing a beautiful red box full of miniature cupcakes. Of course if I'd ever read my emails I have known it was from our new new sponsor baked by Melissa. I have over emails so back to the night of the cupcakes. The kids eight dinners quickly as possible. We put on the movie set out that magical article red box and we the minutes. All cupcakes gone after unanimous decision. To order more we begin looking through the brochure. Each of us made a list of the ones we had eaten. Didn't chocolate cookies and cream. Red Velvet Milk chocolate dolgin latching if you other flavors that it disappeared before they beautified all equally adorable and delicious each one looked like truly. A Work of art asks have Vegan and Gluten free options. But if we those two. I couldn't tell the difference so we ended up ordering four more boxes. I'm I'm considering it work related. I owe it to my listeners to try every flavor so send baked by Melissa bite-size cupcakes as a one of a kind memorable Valentine's Wednesday president or just as you know I'm thinking about you surprise. They really are a perfect gift. GOTO BAKED BY MELISSA DOT COM slash on and use Promo Code. Ana WanNa get fifteen percent off your order. Take advantage of this special offer unqualified listeners. That is fifteen percent off at baked by Melissa. Dot Com flash on a Promo Code. Ana Thank you so much dear listeners by supporting our wonderful sponsors you support our show and couldn't thank you more So Josh guess what we're doing. I have no clue. Okay we are calling strangers. We're we're calling strangers. Yeah Hello Hi Brittney. Yeah Hi Britney it's on affairs higher. Hi I'm here. With Josh Gad. Hybrid knee high. Josh Science. To Talk to you to talk to you. Tell us what's going on. Yes definitely absolutely. I think I'll start with a little bit of back story About my boyfriend and his daughter who is twenty years old. He received a phone call from a girl. He dated previously for about two months saying that she he was having a baby she was in the hospital and he was one of three guys who was up to be her father so of course he did the DNA tests. He got to be the lucky guy. Who is the Beautiful Little Girls Dad? And now it's eleven years later and I'm in the picture. I'm kind of like the stepmom figure to his daughter. She is unbelievable. She's just smart and Sassy me and funny and she's she's just everything she's my best friend and I've just had this. Absolute joy improved in this role for her and our relationship is just amazing and it gets stronger every today but there have been the negative factor in our lives of her mom. Unfortunately I guess the best way I can describe the situation as I'm really not sure if it's kind of like a jealousy thing or what. The problem is but basically what's been happening lately as her mama's said some really awful things about myself and my boyfriend and and things that are very untrue. She has called the police and made allegations against us which is completely crazy. Have actually come to me herself herself and said that I'm harassing her family which is completely untrue. They've never spoken to a single person in her family. And at the beginning things are fine. I was really supportive to her. I was overly kind and I made myself very available to her. She has four kids with different. DADS so I know. It's a hard situation for her and I just always try to do. My best for are my boyfriend's daughter so we took her to Disney for her tenth birthday and we take it to do with all the time and we have our fifty percent of the time so we're always busy and always spending a lot of time together and getting to know each other more and more but as we develop this relationship it almost becomes more and more negative on that side. So there's just a lot of awful things being said about myself self and about my boyfriend and with the police involved and it's just gotten to a point now where I just don't know what to do to deal with it anymore. I've astor stop contacting me. It has kind of worked for about a month but I know that it never really lasts with her. So I'm Kinda looking for some advice on the co-parenting side of things and how you develop that relationship with someone who doesn't really want to develop it back with you in just kind of wants to almost assassinate your character Britney. What does your boyfriend and just think about all of this whole scenario? I mean 'cause it seems crazy but what does he think when we started dating. He told me about her and actually his daughter also like I said maybe I should meet your mom. She said No. I don't want you to meet her and I said why. And she said because she ruins everything and to me. I'm just like okay nine like you're being dramatic. She can't be that bad and my boyfriend said like no. It's been bad with the custody stuff. Everything has been really really bad. And just I've never encountered anybody like like her before. Like I don't have kids myself. I'm thirty two. I was single for like six years just working out my career and that's basically what I focused my life on for a really long time is just career and got my job in my home and you know I really developed who I was the person. And he's very supportive of me and everything I do in my life ace and he just told me to kind of ignore it but I'm kind of a person who wants people to like me. I want to be peaceful. I want it to be happy like I come from parents who are split up and have step parents on both sides and it's always been really loving and kind even though my parents don't necessarily like each other so I thought that that's what would develop but it just has not this confrontation feels like it's between the two of you when there should be also the conversation of your boyfriend. I'm I'm curious about how your boyfriend is dealing with it. Yeah because this shouldn't be on your shoulders. I don't think I don't know no. And you know he was very very involved like it in the first six months or so that we are dating. I never spoke to her. I never saw her actually. The first time I saw her was picking his daughter from school. And she kind of ambushed me a little bit but it was fine like I think. I almost shocked her without crying. I was to her facebook Blake. I think she was expecting it to be more drama. Filled or something but in my boyfriend is like the most supportive wonderful man I've ever met in my life like he is. He's amazing but he told me from the beginning what it was like and he says we know you can make your choice of what kind of relationship you WanNa have. What's her he's like for me? I just co parent with her and that is because there's honestly no talking to her and I've seen the way she speaks extent when it comes to like texting and stuff. She's really cruel constantly telling him he doesn't know how parents just these things that she throws out. That are really awful and then on top of that ah has called the police and reported him as a drug dealer. She called the police about a month ago and reported myself as a prostitute. She like so. I had to get interviewed by the police at two thirty in the morning. I'm sorry yeah like it's crazy and that's the thing for me. That is so hard as if I was dealing with somebody that you know like one of my friends. So I've seen teamed. I've seen them jealous and I've seen them angry. And I've seen you know women at back kind of state before but I never encountered anybody like her before it's just it's above and beyond beyond it's a above and beyond. She reported me once for kidnapping her daughters. I wasn't even in the same city as her daughter at the same time. I don't know what to do with it anymore and I still just ignore those things I was like just nice all leave and I constantly teaches daughter that if you're kind to people at the end of the day when you walk away from a situation you have nothing to feel bad about. You have nothing to worry about. You were kind you kept your head and you can keep your head up because of that. But I'm having a hard time now. Sorry of course you are. I hope that your hardener has your back with this. Although I do think that your future daughter that her mom is clearly going through a lot and so how you guys negotiate those waters. I I think that that's kind of I don't know if it should be your job. Is that crazy about trying to how I've been feeling. It sounds sounds to me like you've gone above and beyond and I think that you are providing this young lady with an incredible example of what affection affection and love should look like you know I question some of the choices that her mom is making I think for from what I'm hearing on his right. You have to navigate this with your boyfriend and see just how committed you guys are to maintaining a working relationship. Obviously not with his his daughter which I think is incredibly important. It sounds like for her wellbeing that you guys are in our life but navigate this in terms of barriers that you put up with the mom because it sounds to me like she's trying intentionally to stir up trouble and based on what you said has a history of doing so so you know. I think that you guys have to decide. Just how much you want to wade into the craziness with her and put up potential barriers. So that she doesn't necessarily we have that access to you guys to get you constantly in trouble for what reason. I don't know that that's what I would say. Yeah you sound sounds amazing by the way and you. I think that this this young lady is very lucky to have you in her life. It sounds like exactly the kind of figure that she needs. I appreciate that but I definitely work really hard to try and be good for her and I try not to say you know awful things and I don't want to ever speak poorly about her. Mom that's not contention and like I'm at a point now where the pair of them are just everything to me and I wanNA spend my time in my life with them. But there's these threats almost you know like the the police and stuff like that. And I've now told her His daughter not to repeat the mean things that are said because her mom was calling me names of course and insulting my body and you know just things that are so unnecessary. But there's little things like you know. She told her daughter that she was going to make sure I lost my job. You know because she knows that's how I provide and she she knows that that's what's important to me and it's just these things that are really scary and it's almost like bullying as middle. I've had that in the workforce I work in a kind of a male dominated industry. But I've never had it like this before and I never in trouble with the law. So it's like really crazy for me. Gosh okay as we Britney so jade will grow up and you'll understand things in a way that like she can't right now but the more important thing I think is keeping you safe safe and how your partner protects you. Yes he definitely does. What because this does feel like yeah most recently we actually she going through a custody battle with her youngest father eight now and a- actually in contact with his new fiancee who is amazing And she gave me some advice because obviously she's going through the same thing and you know she does the same thing to her so she said basically that her lawyer has warned her that once people colored like leave me alone that she has to do. So that's basically what I did. I just wrote her a text and said you know like your lack of self awareness and the hypocrisy in this situation and the way that you treat us and then expect to be treated by us. It's just not fair and I need to take a step back. Please don't contact me. And she has is left me alone but this has happened before where she's left me alone for like a month or two and then she comes back and it's like oh I'd say you know Nice amidst it's all friendly again and you know how's Jaden stuff and then it goes back to this craziness and it just never really stop so him and I talked about it. And he's like you know they've cut up kind of communication as well. Jacob the vote to be eleven so now she walks from the trump to her mom. You know like we do every pick up drop off because her mom doesn't drive so she walks from the truck and we don't go up up to the door at all the only tax it has to do with jade and it's very brief. There's no more lake of the drama and the fighting there used to be so we're trying but we know it's only a matter of time because right now she's distracted by another dad unfortunately she doesn't have a job and this is what she likes to do is to find people to fight with. I just have never come across anyone like that before. I can tell her to leave him alone and I can block her. I mean I've walked on social media and stuff so that you can't contact me that way but at some point here I mean jade's GonNa Graduate High School or get married and we're all going to have to kind of be together and I don't know I just wanted to ask a question about jade's welfare Aaron wellbeing yet. Have you had an honest conversation with jade about that household. Okay and I think what I'm alluding to is are you. You confident that she's safe in that. Space Okay then. I think that that is a concern and I would say that you know you're you're incredibly. We strong in and brave to recognize that there's an issue and to share that and I think priority number one because we're talking about an eleven year old is that that has to be brought to the proper attention. That's I think one of the hardest parts but we have done that in the system just keeps putting our back into the situation. Unfortunately we have gone through that a few times now and I'm very fortunate. The company I work for offers free counseling so I had Jaden counseling and stuff like that as well and her welfare came up to child protective protective services but unfortunately they just go and have a conversation with her mom and say you know like you can't hit your children. You can't do this with your children. You need to apply for your child and they just basically we tell her what she needs to do just to meet the bare minimums and unfortunately that's just we have no control because there's four kids in that household and they don't seem to WanNa do much about it unfortunately this has been ongoing for months and months. But we're kind of at a point now where we're just trying to keep her as happy as possible until she's able to speak up for herself and I guess choose to be with us but she's asked several times to to her mom to come live with us of course so I don't know maybe that's part of the jealousy is stop started the anger. Would you be open to that to having her live with you all all the time. Yeah I would love it. I mean we right now live in separate houses but I have a bedroom in my house. That's dedicated to her and that she decorated and she put together and right. Now we're in the process of buying nine other house for all of us to live in. I couldn't feel any more strongly about her. I just love her so much but it is definitely hard to send her back to that situation. And I've I taught conversation with her mom trying to ask her to maybe be better in this way or like you know. Jade brought up to me that you keep calling her dad names like. Can you made you not do that. Because it's really hurting her. And she basically goes. I don't know what you're talking about. That didn't happen. Jeep lying and that's just the end of the conversation. Unfortunately I feel like your boyfriend needs needs to kind of step up a little bit here really tried really hard No. I'm sure I'm sure I don't mean to put anything on him but but this is his daughter yet. There's an argument to be made for custody by the way is right. I think that it sounds to me in. This is simply the court of public opinion but in terms of court of law. I think that with the facts that you've presented to us today without being an expert. There's an argument to be made that jade needs to moving moving to a safer environment. And I would say that your boyfriend really needs to think hard in a thoroughly about does he want want to roll up his sleeves and does he want to take this on because it sounds to me like she's playing really weird games. Yeah it seems like there's a history of this frankly and yeah it feels of a at least of a pattern that would be very compelling to the proper authorities to see and hear anything not only for change wellbeing but maybe every child in that household needs to get out of that place yes. It's very unfair to me. It's also interesting to Britney that you speak speak about these two other women jade girl and your boyfriend's ex but without him and I wonder how these sort of incorporate the idea of teamwork or something to protect all of your futures together. Gather in to make sure that you all feel safe and jade's mom feels safe and very now she's feeling crazy. It's not your responsibility to make her feel saying no and I have tried. No of course I knew I believe it but I don't think this should be about two women arguing coming together. This should be also your boyfriend. Yeah partner yeah like helping you handle these things because this shouldn't be like on on your shoulders. Yeah and I know I get a lot more worked up about it than he does. We know that the situation over there is obviously not what we can provide but at the same time she is following the minimum requirements of moves to do for her kids. But we just know that when we have our fifty percent of the time like we do stuff every single day we try to make her happy happy we give her everything she means like. We bought her. I mean we live in Canada. So of course She needed a new boots and a new coat this year. And you know we by her that stuff and we make sure that she's taken taken care of in that way and it makes me so happy to be able to do that for her. I don't mind at all I think. Just sometimes it definitely feels like we're taking it all on on together and and I don't feel like he pushes it on me or anything like that. Like he has told me multiple times like step back. Don't speak to her. Stay away from her. You know I warned you what she was like Nick and now you're seeing it you know you and I know you wanted to try and make it good but it just. Unfortunately it's been ten or eight and a half years before I came along of just is terrible. So he's like no some kind of goes through lows and Britney. So here's the thing I feel like. I want your boyfriend to also have if you're back because your intentions are so good. I do think though that you might need to have like a really frank conversation with him. Yeah because this is like a fight between two ladies and I wonder if he gets to check out. Yeah Kinda does sometimes. There was actually a period of time where she stopped contacting him at all and would only contact me about things to do with Jada. I think she just found it easier to talk to me. I mean not with actually not so bad because I think it's been so much animosity over so many years like it doesn't even matter what they say. They always assume that they're being route. which for the most part? They probably are to be fair but I think with me. She had met me a few times in person. She knows that I'm not an aggressive person. Like I'm pretty easy going and I'm easy. Need to talk to about things and she also. I think that she could push me around a little bit so I think I kind of did it to myself because he told me like. You don't have to be talking to her. You know she keeps reaching out to you but but we can tell her to reach out to me you know. Not you know it's going fine. It's going great and then all of a sudden I was having the police called on me for. I don't know exactly what I did to make her angry but he really did. Tell me. Don't trust this like she's going to though and a Bayton switch on you it's GonNa be all fine and then all of a sudden it's just going to change inch that's just what happens. That's the pattern. I've been doing it for nine ten years now and that's just the way it goes I so respect and appreciate you sharing All of this with us today and I know you are. You are amazing young. You for your patience. Oh my God. It's a pretty incredible. Yeah Jade. He's very lucky. I love you. Britney you guys thank you so much Josh dealer favorite joke amount of joke. I I wish I had a joke. Come on like bad jokes. Dad Jokes Yeah You want and when dad joke. My stepdad just told us to my kids. It's the worst why I don't even know I'm not doing fine. I love you I love you too. Thank you joshes. This is so much for being here. You were amazing. I so appreciate it the.

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Hundreds of people fight in a field over the name Josh. American honey is radioactive from bombs.

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Hundreds of people fight in a field over the name Josh. American honey is radioactive from bombs.

"Hundreds of people fight in a field over the name. Josh honey is radioactive from nuclear bomb tests and a woman is accused of stalking a police officer who previously arrested her first stalking. These are the weird stories for wednesday on weird af news. This is the only daily weird news podcast by a comedian. Very happy. you're here. I got some weird stories from around the world. And i got a new piece of sound equipment. Enjoy it. Hundreds of people fight in a field in nebraska over the named josh. A lot of josh's gathered to brawl over the right to their name over the weekend. Dozens of people in fact named joshua they met in lincoln nebraska and they held a battle over the name joshua on april twenty fourth. The winter not surprisingly was josh tiny. Josh to be exact. He's a five year old boy. He was coronated with the burger king crown after a massive pool noodle fight. They use pool noodles. Guys know at pool noodles are they were invented to float their flotation device primarily but quickly. Most of us appropriated these devices to smash cousins in the face. Anybody else just me. Okay josh from all over the country. I'm talking about the u s survey and there are a lot of josh's in the us of they flocked to air park in lincoln nebraska. For saturday's of the joshes. How did this come about. I'm so curious it seems very fun. I wonder if there's going to be a battle of chris's and i would have to. Of course show up and fight for my rights to my name is video of this. And i watched a little bit of it. It's a pretty fascinating. It doesn't look very organized. Bunch of people named josh. I assume are smashing. Each other with pool noodles some addresses spiderman. Some as batman some are just as spartan warriors. It looks like a lot of fun not gonna lie. I can't think of a better way to spend an afternoon. If my name is josh and i'm stuck in lincoln nebraska where there's really not much to do i assume what what is there to do in nebraska in general. Is there some sort of sports hall of fame. They've got nothing nothing in nebraska in the video. You can hear spectators chanting josh. Josh josh josh. They're not chanting joshua it's too long. They're chanting josh. Josh josh. Can you imagine being a spectator to this. I would have to get very high end or drunk. And maybe like if i felt like participating if i felt like i wanted to take over the name josh for myself i suppose i could have fought for it. So how did this come about. The events origins date back to last year. When someone named joshua swayne twenty two year old student in arizona became very overwhelmed with boredom amid the covid nineteen pandemic so he messaged another joshua swayne and another joshua swayne on social media. So a bunch of josh lanes talking. The first josh challenged the others to addul over the right to their name. The first joshua swayne was very very upset that his name was extremely common and he wasn't able to get it on social media handles and whatnot. This is what the beginning of the this was sort of the genesis of his frustration so he challenges the other joshes online in the antics go viral it completely went viral. And that's how you can have an event where hundreds of people show up now as far as the battle for josh swain specifically only one of the challengers showed up so it was one josh swain against another josh swain and they battled in a grueling tournament of rock paper scissors and the original. Josh swain from arizona won the battle allowing him to claim the title of the true josh swain. We live in such a weird world whereas stuff like this can happen. I find it fascinating. It's very novel. I enjoy novelty the weirder. The better had i known about this. I'm yeah it takes a lot to get me to nebraska. I have to say not to say that. I would have attended this however if there was a battle for the name out there i would consider consider doing you quit your job in nebraska to battle for your name so fun. I love weird shit like this and to be completely honest. I can absolutely empathize with josh swain's frustration. Because i often find my name is duplicated. It's very plain chris. Jones super plain also. Jones e. is very common nickname. So it's difficult for me to get social. Media handles like jones e. That's why on all my social media. It's funny jones. Because i can get that one i can. I can't really get jones e. Although i have jones e. dot com and i got that one was pretty crafty to get that one very proud of that and if you happen to be bored. Checkout jones e. dot com. You can also email me at funny jones and jimmy dot com and my instagram at funny jones. And i'm just going to use this opportunity to pimp out all my social media some at funny jones on twitter. Okay by american honey is radioactive from decades of nuclear bomb testing. We a new study found that bees have been harvesting elevated levels of irradiated pollen for decades in the us. The world's nuclear powers have detonated more than five hundred nukes in the surrounding atmosphere over the years. These explosions were tests and shows of shows a force to rival nations and eventually proof that countries like russia france and the us have really mastered the science of the bomb and the world's honey industry has suffered for it according to a new study published in nature. Communications honey in the us full of fallout lingering. From those feerick nuclear tests over the years for the study researchers collected honey samples from more than one hundred hives and soil samples from one hundred and ten locations across the eastern united states. The scientists found elevated levels of sesame him in both the soil honey samples. Here's a quote from the study whom well most of the radiation produced by a nuclear weapon. Detonation decays within the first few days one of the longest lived and more abundant vision. Products is cecil which has a radioactive half life of thirty years. Roughly previous research after the chernobyl. Nuclear disaster identified elevated levels of sesame and european honey and pollen. The good news is that according to researchers most of this honey is probably safe for humans to consume after all while the concentrations of sesame and we report in honey today or below the dietary threshold level of concern observed by many countries and not evidently dangerous for human consumption. The widespread residual radiation is surprising given that nearly two half lives have elapsed. Since most of the bomb production of cecil the us conducted the majority of its atmosphere is nuclear tests in the marshall islands. In american south west the fallout spread through the atmosphere settled. Actually across the planet eastern north. America received disproportionately high fallout from the nineteen fifties the nineteen sixties nuclear weapons tests despite being relatively far from the detonation sites because of prevailing westerlies in high precipitation study says most of it dissipated quickly but the sessoms stuck around and soaked into the soil where it's chemical structure which is similar to potassium made it attractive to certain plants potassium or chemically in the study speculated that this is the reason the plants absorbed so much of the session which led to it being in the pollen. Bees turned into the honey. It also found inverse relationship between the amount of potassium naturally occurring in soil and the amount of fallout found in. Honey you guys getting all of this. I mean i'm running right through the article. There's a lotta big words in here very proud of myself for handling it on one go round. It says here. Southern states contain two three times. The amount of fallout in the northern states. Southern soil doesn't contain much potassium while soil in. The north is actually rich with the stuff while this honey is probably safe for human consumption it may not be for the b.'s. Who generated in the last five years. It has become clear that insects suffer significant negative consequences. Ed radiation dose rates that were previously considered safe but the threshold at which damage occurs is debated. Some studies indicate that low levels of and pollution could be lethal to pollinating insects and that any increase above background causes measurable damage to surrounding ecosystems. This is pretty sad at the end of the day. I it's a very strange weird thing. Shall we be concerned. I mean we can ingest this honey little. Bit of radiation. I mean we're using microwaves. You know the future of mankind is just like being able to. I guess inculcated as much radiation as possible into your life and still live. I mean the future of mankind like our our ancestors half a million years down the road will be super like review activist. I assume the more the ozone dissipates. The more radiation pours in from the sun. We're going to have to build a strong defense mechanism to that and through natural selection. I'd imagine we'll just be very powerful. And when it comes to battling radiation we're going to have to be if we want to survive the cell phone that's attached to our body twenty four seven. Imagine jones e. Your freaking us all out i know. But what about the bees you like. Podcast you're listening to my podcast. Maybe thought yourself. I'd like to make a podcast too difficult. No not with anchor. Anchor has free creation tools. That allow you to record. And edit your podcast from your phone your computer anchor. Distributor podcast to apple spotify stitcher and more they have advertising integration. So you can even make a little money off your podcast everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot fm to get started and good luck with your podcast. Good luck with your creation. Good luck with your life man. A woman has been accused of stalking a police officer who previously arrested her for stocking. This occurred in nara. japan. Place that i have Visited before nowra for their dear. The whole city is overrun by wild deer. Just walking around eating out of your hand. School nara dear. So it's pretty cool. Well they got a crazy lady over a narrow sounds like thirty seven year. Old woman allegedly stock. A police officers stationed at the narrow police station. According to the media kanako owner she a part time. Employees for narrow city met the victim after he arrested her last year for stocking. I assume stocking somebody else. In around april twenty second onishi allegedly violated a previous by sending a letter to the police officer. I want to enter to your family register. She wrote in a letter. I don't wanna live apart from you. I think i'm in love got arrested. And she's just fell in love with the arresting officer. Wait out sometimes handcuffs. Do this to a person. I've watched soap operas before. Okay well this week. Police have accused of violating the stocker. Control law. it's a specific law. They have stocker control law. She admits to the allegations. Yeah i did it. I stop a guy i got arrested and then i stopped the cop. I need to be with them close to him. Marry me onishi. She lives in kyoto. So it says last october. The narrow police arrested her in another stocking case. The assistant inspector was in charge of the investigation. Onishi then sent the assistant inspector total letters. Marry me she wrote man. She's out of her mind. The poor girl sh she was later arrested again for violating the same law and handed in order to stay away from the assistant inspector. The assistant inspector is married and never ever engaged in any sort of relationship with ohnishi other than the arrests. That looks like the hell some sick game of stalker tag. Don't worry don't worry. There'll be an uber driver that she stocks next tag here it. I don't know the other thing is hilarious that her mode of communication was letters so not only. Is she out of her mind. She's like out of her decade as well. Stocking is real on both sides men and women. It's nuts and i feel sorry for anyone who's been stocked. I'd imagine you feel pretty helpless especially in a case like where it's a female stocking a man and you know you tell the police and i'd imagine sometimes they really don't believe you in this case they definitely believe it. She's like tag. you're it now. I'm stalking you police officer. Hey everyone you've made it to the out tro the final level of this podcast and now you must fight the final boss which is me your host. I wanna give love to people who reached out to me for my birthday first of all. I got some more calls. But i was unable to access a download the call database today. Because i don't know something wrong with google and So i'm gonna publish those calls tomorrow. But i want to thank everybody who called in wish me happy birthday Publisher phone call tomorrow Also want to give love to melissa. Who bought me coffee. She bought me some coffee. Got a lot of coffee purchase for me this week. Which means i'm going to be drinking high end coffee for two weeks at least getting those. Six dollar coffees. Yeah you know the ones guys. Seven dollars the eight nine dollars coffee. That's bigger than utah so covered in whipped cream and spread goals not. I don't drink those kinds of coffee drinks. too much. sugarman like a desert to me. I want more caffeine less sugar. That's how i rock Shot to candy. Who joined the patriarch candid join. The patriots candy supports the show. And i love you. Candy for joining the badri. Hone yeah i thank you candy. Please enjoy the extra content that lies beyond the locked gates of the patriots such as bonus episodes and the song the very famous hits number one single that i wrote called alligators everywhere. So thank you candy. You guys can join candy and be a part of the patriots as well be a patron as they say by going to patriot. Dot com slash. Weird of news or going to wear day of news dot com and click on the link. It's right there. It says patriot. Big big letters. Large font brow Also want to give it. Thanks to in heather who wrote me emails from my birthday And i got some other people who reached my birthday. I'll i'll i'll try and give you guys shouts tomorrow's episode but let me wrap this one up Just saying how. Grateful i am. I've had a nice birthday and even the day after has been quite nice Although i had to work a regular job but Yeah my coworkers got me cake. That has Florida on it. I'm going to post a picture this somewhere. We were like put it. Put it in the patriot. And because when. I see my florida kick. Maybe posted on the day of news facebook page as well so keep an eye out for that in my instagram. At funny jones opposed this photo of me in the florida cake Yeah so that'll be fun anyways. I'm grateful for everyone. Thanks for listening again. And we'll see you tomorrow That'll be thursday. Stop recording stop recording on my goodness. How do you stop recording. Oh there it is.

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54:26 min | 1 year ago

Raelynn + Josh

"I will be sitting there laughing so I don't even know what he's laughing at. My Dad's name was berry they were gonNA bury. United Joshua was buried. This is a little weird chef. I promise we had tacos Margaritas before we went to church. I don't know I thank now because Josh is in the military I think we get to. We don't get to spend a lot of time together. Irish had to kind of learn to like take a seat back as we do have completely different careers and our. It's totally different. The only way you're going to have healthy marriages if both genuinely support each other and and what that is. That's the one thing that always keeps us together is knowing that God has a really big plan for our lives. What's up? Everybody walked back to a couple of things with Sean and Andrew. Today is a fun one. We have a couple in the studio with us. It's our first interview as a couple doing. We're very are excited. They're friends of ours are really excited. A lot of energy right today. Were interviewing railing Davis and her husband Josh Davis. Hr John. I know we didn't know this but Ray Lynn is a country music all star. You might recognize her. Know her from the voice us right. She had Some of my favorite songs. She has are Queens Queens down and tailgate and then her husband Josh Davis military. This is a hilarious conversation. And I can't wait. It's a hero. You guys think of this Let us know in the comments and the ratings down below. And let's just quit and jumping on Ray Ray Ray Josh. Thanks for joining us today. Super happy to have you here. Fear I just WanNa start off Ray. You're responsible for one member of our our family being part of our family. And that's the dog. Thor yes so just have to thank you for that. That's pretty loud. Obnoxious dog destroyed a lot of furniture. Sure but we were. Were thankful if you follow me you know that I have. We may in Josh on a dog named Jazz and so thorough was jess's baby. The Best Stars Stars as we went on me and Sean went on a high and we took thor remember so we were walking with and we were gonNA take the long hike and we took the short run because we walked up the stairs stairs. There's this place to hike in national Percy Warner and it's like the stairway to hell it's so it's so hard but by the time we got the stairs sore was so exhausted we had to carry him. I mean he was so tired of the start. Here's a puppy. Thank six weeks old. Oh and I wanted him but I didn't think I could have him with Nash. Just both being boys and like strong personalities so then we convinced despite parents take him. Yeah and then you take. It was awfully perfect. Yeah it was so perfect carried him the rest of that. We carried him the hallway and he was just like it on the outside of my shoulder and he was like looking at. BYU EXHAU- people coming up behind us. Oh we had driven are jeep. We have a nineteen eighty seven. Light Jeep Wrangler that has no ACN. It was as though like gun. In Hobart driving it because I had just gotten in so Mehan Thawra were so hot by the time that we got more we were sweating. We made it. I guess it was awesome so we thought about this question before you guys got here. I'm curious we can answer it. So if you guys were to describe your relationship in the form of an onscreen characters relationships jets like brand Jelena or like Brad and Jennifer or we could go beauty and the beasts. Do I handle it from the office. It really works how how come. I can't get sean into the now. He literally tries every night. We you know have of course have a TV in our bedroom. And he's like to stay in wash it with me tonight. It's like I own. Athlete is to get into your tower one episode of night and just like ripe for good of consoled in. She's yet made it through one episode. We've been trying this month and a half It is it is the highest form of comedy. It really. It's the funniest. I'm trying to think. Honestly what that like. Who would be? Yeah I think it would be a mixture of two different shows which I I really don't know I was kind of joke. Handler or fringes of worst. Friends is not got a good show. I've never really watched side. Never watched friends good. Don't what about Africa out out. Like I on okay like got your show I. I Love Rushing Disney. Plus like when I tell you I love Josh's not think it's funny. Money is the most hilarious show like that not office. I don't get with it okay. In that kind of comedy is funny like we'll be sitting there josh office like laughing so I don't even know what he's laughing goofy news the character. Funny that sounds zone. Laugh at Dwight or like what's the boss's name Michael Narrow narrow boss like makes my skin crawl. She can't really I cannot that's what makes me cringe. She said I can't believe the receptionist. She's funny I like. She's so painfully Awkward hilarious there. We go back once. I've done it like totally under the radar that she doesn't even realize she's liking it but she's almost there again. Subtle brain question. What would be your couple name? Have you figured out your Mash Up. Name rush rush raging raging raging that skew. Ray J J. That's cool. Yeah we're Chandru so this is this is actually the Laura could pay your thought. She Andrews actually like our family maintenance Lynn Jal in Jolyon Jolly Ellen man if it was my my regular name which is racial autrey seasoning. What name's name's Rachel? I did not no no yes. What is your full name? Well before I got married was Rachel would were announced. Rachel Davis introducing missing spelled R. A. R. A. C. H. E. A. L.. My mom must build my name when she was reading it so say they always say she was hugged up on pregnancy drugs. She actually to be funny. I was like a love child but mom wasn't expecting to have me very long story. Short blessing to the world. That being said they didn't have the name for me picked out when they got to the hospital. So she's giving birth a love the story and she's like she honestly just didn't care about what my name was and they literally my dad's Amesbury is Berry. They were going to name me Berry. Etta 'cause shoes like that very emma sister goes no shoe get made fun of her whole life Joshua today to me and my name was buried. Could you imagine if you were like. Hey what's your name under. Heard anyone named yeah. I know but that's so bad. Wanted Amy Valerie which. I don't look like a Valerie and so when I was six my sister was freaking out. She's like anything. Just don't even vary at a neighbor Rachel and then she was like Oh i like that and then she spelled it wrong. That's fine. Yeah at least worry in fact I know so this is this is Josh's first podcast. Yes this this is Josh Bersin honored on. I'm trying to screw this up from the it's going to be the girls Chitchat sitting here. Listen Jed Jed lacking trying to what your shirts made though. That's a fancy this. Dr Nicer attaches a lot of stories shirt. It was supposed to be Rachel sure. Do you call Rachel. I do I like can i. Can I tell the story that cool. Okay okay so I want to try and Kelly que. They had a huge annual. Sell right south in. I got so much crap for Josh. Like all the AH sweatsuits for super cheap so I got an offer him and I find a few things for myself. I bought two things for myself. That shirt and the big for myself my shirt and a pair of pants and so anyways I bought it in a large or knows it's a medium or large. I think it was a large about an large. I'll cut it and make it a crop kid so then how to get to the house and all so cool oh and he agrees that shirt he goes all. This is my favorite talk. I didn't have to tell him that it was my shirt. That's it's like yeah okay and he puts me on some kind of regretted the word out and I was like tell you that was actually put it on though coach favor parliament things and he was like going through the whole bag was for him and it was honestly hilarious. You Rocket I. I think you need to go back in time. Killing this should amend closer are kind of technically Unisex okay but that we are cutting edge guys really funny. I told that to Brittany course who owns her and her husband Brian but she was Karang that I've done that so many funny I'm curious what's the story of how you two met. We met at Church like when I was at Belmont so I think it was junior. Maybe senior you're a senior. Obama lay claim as far right Nature Yeah Right. Yeah Sanca rivalry online vandy vineyard. Yeah it's like a little bit. There's search for years beat band once or twice. Yeah they're really good. Then you say kills us and everything and actually will tell the truth when it comes to anything like he's just like I felt like you'll give somebody credit words. They're like one of the best baseball programs in the country on real talk football it. Could we met at Church. We saw each other at a wedding Julie later and then Guys number. I know I actually asked. Linda's deums on twitter are going to stand strong. Nobody but I slid into your. DM's to after church on twitter on twitter her entered it and actually. I didn't want to go to Kirk. They I was like just super tired because I think it went out the night before and I murmur wearing like a Poncho and like boot cut jeans like with like Tom. Shoes my hair up with the top of my head. I would like Sh- isn't net like it was not cool. And but then that's new so many different words for that for that word the second or third try not the custom getting better instead of saying the F. O.. Saying Fudge mice or trying to. That's progress looks good. Hey try try to lead US eleven now. Yeah sure what. Church Grace Church in Franklin Tennessee. That's a great church. We have been there. Things got crazy and it's like forty five minutes from where we live now so it's like Chuck Franklin when I live in Nashville when we met I lived back in Texas access but I was staying with some family and they were in Brooklyn. I just went to church with him. I remember when you take me to the belonging. Also church with me as a cat terry. WYNN had A. We had TACOS Margaritas. We went to church. which is yeah? I don't care but it's G it's a funny story. I feel like I could definitely use. That is like some type of blackmailer tallies in March for Jesus cousin mark's from Jesus drank wine okay. So that's pretty much kilos more healthy and we have to protect Dr Temples. So I'm sure that God wants to drink Tequila. Yeah it's amazing how you just came full circle to that. I was comfortable storm. So you kinda summarize I feel like maybe to briefly what was the first interaction like that made the second meeting new worth talking to my cousin and then ray like Kinda like came up and then ray explain yourself is. She wanted to the little incest. I promise listen again. started off like both our first cousins are married. Okay that makes fell. He was talking to each other. Oh to each of your cousins. Thousands are mad first cousin. We need like this up. You have to have like I had to get like a spreadsheet and let me just explain real quick so my first cousin so my mo- mom Kelly. Yeah okay. Kelly sister my aunt Cindy Cindy has a son yet. Okay named Jack Okay. Brench Jack is married to Josh. Is Dad Dad's sister Mr. Yes Dr Daughter married to Jack. Our first cousins are married. So I've been around. I've typically been around Josh since I was like ten or eleven so sitting name the wedding were married. Well known each other but I didn't know him so we were way ever met. The big question is since your first cousins. Were married before you. Does that make you you. Some sort of cousin ranch checked trying to say it's not like so if you're too now they're two married in cousins so it's like yeah them So so we so he was talking talking to my cousin. Jack who of course is my first cousin and I was like who the hell is hot. Dude talking to my cousin Jack and didn't know like and and after and Whitney who is Jack wire goes in mark's Bar Whitney who is Jack's WHO's Josh's first cousin who's Jack's wife my cousin's wife I said you do not tell me that you had a really attractive Cousin and then she was like and then he was they were making fun of me and stuff and then slid into his deems said. Yeah I do have a cousin. I'M GONNA marry super funny so I went to you so we're back home to Texas after after we would church because I didn't live in Nashville. I was just coming back and forth right and when I left to go to that leading I remember telling him I was like mom. I'm GonNa get me a hot baseball boyfriend. And she was like a law or whatever super hot and I'm like thanks mom but that being said I'm try you came back. I came back. I love to hear Josh's MOM's like interpretation. Hey but of that that wedding because she said like these crazy is on the dance floor and I was just like dancing towards her dancing towards Josh and it was really funny. People I feel like people are always trying to figure out where to. Where's a good spot to meet a significant other? Like a potential spouse right and I feel like the obvious answer. We'll just I like churches. Probably the number one. I think you could find crazies everywhere including in church. Yes Yeah I. The crazies is less but they're still there. Listen hours girls who have different thoughts up in church and I always tell him almost like I don't I don't know if I'm going to marry a guy on meet at church because some of them were dislike. I love Jesus fellow to have a good time. I think growing up as like the pastor's kid like all the all the guys that went to my youth group are like super weird like they weren't sorry for listening to this talk. I really don't care that being said I think the church good place to to meet somebody because you know I love Jesus but I like to have a good time and I met obviously josh shoes. I think the same way. Yeah values but your fun. Do you know what I mean crazy stickler I do feel like Sean. I just giggle and laugh all the time or with yet we spend two or three times guys which is pretty good time but the priority is not. I have a good time and then I love Jesus. It's like it's just having somebody with values that has like thinks the same way you think but also yeah you're right. It's not just having like having a good time. It's just like they love the same things as you. So who headed. So I feel like it's so hard to find somebody who has like or for me like that had morals and all these different things but also loved the same things that I loved. 'em That would not. What are you guys? Love the office in what surely humanitarian. You go for us because yeah I don't know I think now because Josh is in the military I think we. We don't get to spend a lot of time together but that that's been changing but I think anytime we can just soak in quality time together. I mean I know. We're both like super homebodies. So like we have like time. And how how we're GONNA stay in and like watch movie or just chill. That's kind of what we like. Since we don't get to do live together a lot doing just doing live together. Affleck is so much fun and but we do like. We're just hate being like Philip but like working out going out with friends. I love loved working really only been. We'll they're already. What the brand name the bowling alley that has to have the strength big into bowling? I like it. I'm not good I under I. If it's called all Canadian bullying and it all the pinch attached to yes. Yeah and I'm super good at it because it's like made for people like US little people. The lanes are smaller the balls or smaller seriously. And there's like any windows everywhere about the balls which is so funny like it's really awesome. Our Josh on the spot I guess Andress to other people anyways like puts him on the spot. But what is it about right that you love breath. I mean obviously she has heartful Lord but I like she is fearless in any respect as far whereas like public speaking or anything like that she has like zero fear to super bowl Yeah I always like I love watching during like any like stuff around like the faster. Any of that stuff should like watching her. Do all the interviews is like super impressive. 'cause I couldn't do it. I know I could like I think on the spot like her and she. It's really always impressive watching her do that for sure. That's awesome and then what are you for Josh I would say first of all. Of course the fact that he's one of the most amazing spiritual leaders comes to just like when my because I I felt like in the music industry. It's very up and down and being an artist any artist you ever meet. They're just up and down twenty four seven but he's been the most like steady thing in my life and also like he just always has the best words of encouragement and I love that about him and the one thing about Josh. Is He lake. I think you're right here. My favorite thing about him is he when he sets a goal of like. This is what I'm going to accomplish. He always achieve that goal. And I sometimes like I'm one of those people will always be in your. I'm like I'm going to be this way and do it's like I'm like crusher for the first month and then I'll like Kinda like backside with it but josh's so persistent about really everything in life when he like. I just think it's so cool. How you always like hit your goals? You've accomplished a lot and I'm very bright out super sweet. That's really was great. And he's super funny not going because my hi. It's not as long as I do. Have to say from what I know. About your great conversationalist hanging out. You're always like same pertinent question that that but ray when we saw you last time we like the Blake Shelton and voicing funny. She was up there on on stage. Singing Novak Banner's band members you stink and I was like that would be. That's hard to be there doing my being so really funny. Yeah because I had to sing to attract never sang to attract my whole life besides like when I was at church and sing happy birthday. Jesus okay I was like did not like hit but it was just different. We agitated kind of make it work. It was fun broth a yeah well yeah maybe it was. I think it was us. Will you announced it. That way says it has been out. I don't know I say nothing easy way or another again. I wrote the I I'd Jarring Josh. Oas Can tell you what I'm going to say before my concerts like before. Like like one of the songs icing called careless he goes. I wrote this song about valuable. Whatever he likes to say? That's my I've switched out every couple of years or you're like look the same for gone. Make Girls Appleaday Gamay. Girls make this world whatever. We don't have a son says that God maybe God girls. There's another song it's like round and round. Oh I don't know I don't think so. Get over it. Hasn't read. Cover her rowdy rowdy this round. That's different yeah okay so so I was really curious voter talking about this. Is You guys pretty much. have polar opposite careers. So you're careers musician you need to be in the limelight. You need to be loud and get attention to keep yourself relevant you military. It's almost Polar upset so it's it's about privacy and keeping to an order. How you guys make those Mesh and work? I've always thought opposites attract. So that's what my mom always says. But so yeah I think that's Just like the differences our lives like what makes us they were makes us work honestly because I communications education than the biggest thing I think for when he's gone like just always being on the same page alot facetime. It's the best thing ever but I think honestly like Josh would support me in anything that I ever decided to do. If I wanted to go. You know working McDonalds dramatic but hey I wonder. But I'm just saying like he would support me that he would support anything that I wanted to do. The same thing with with me like you know. Military is hard but I did not see him all the time. But that's joshes dream in like doing you know serving his country in doing that is like what he is his heart is about and I think when you genuinely love somebody you can't like Like just be like. Oh well why. Can't you do something that fits my life or can't even say that like the only way you're going to have healthy marriages if you both genuinely support each other and what that is but it is. It is very interesting because there's a lot of things that I can't talk about Joshua's and or there's a lot of times. Yeah I'm like Oh just come on a plane and come to this show and he's like no I. You know I'm ordered to do this and it's it's been good for me because I know like Irish had kind of learned earned like take a seat back as we do have completely different careers nurse totaling. Let's take a pause in here from our sponsors so you guys have probably seen me post about this. INSTAGRAM disagree mostly. 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Yeah we'll stick to that one figure that out your after you ever take is when you decide to go to the military. Can you walk us through. That's a huge decision. You kind of knew both of you without entail as far as not being able to see each other. How did you guys make that decision session together as a couple so something I thought about even during baseball guy like Kinda wanted to quit baseball undo it but it ended up where I got released or whatever and then it was like a couple of years after that I decided to do it but honestly it was somebody I thought about for awhile and MM was exact same pages move it I remember I was watching? TV in bed. And I hadn't told her yet and You had the wanted to do okay. So he was doing all these like psycho workouts. Like like doesn't like really crazy. You're playing in the minor league baseball's and then this was in the baseball's last year and a half two years later. But yeah like I said it to her and then like turn the TV off like shut the lights off thinking like we're we're GONNA go to bed right after I wanna do this and so I just signed turn it off and he likes. There's going to be no for sure ain't GonNa Work Nice. And she turned the lights back on for a while but Yeah we definitely have had to get on the same age like kind of expectations to be the same support thing than it's been it was. I think it was a shock for me but I think one thing that we worked through over being married for for a little bit now is like Josh is one of the people he processes things in his brain for a while before he actually talks about it and so he and his and his like mine he'd already processed the fact that he wanted to be in the military. He didn't talk about it so lives familiar so he didn't talk about it. It was like it was made and I was like what the hell like. You've you already already gone through. Your head is not is not bad because it's the real thing so basically like he you don't give is so you know but the more I thought about it like that is like we've worked through that now. Josh will communicate with me. And you won't kind of like I think that's a guy thing because by the time enter tells me anything. It's it's already already done. It's done and then I have to like. Hey you end up getting mad because then I have to process it and I'm always like well you you don't I know and it's like well. They've already did it my cool. That's definitely like more common. I thought this might be on there. Might be I think it was his fault. No but it was honestly like but I said this earlier when knowing how long it took them to process at our realized this really is his dream in is something he genuinely wants to do. And it's just not something to like you know not be with me because I'm so much fun I say. I think this really cool like how you explain supporting each other and you can't be selfish rush in a way of each other's career aspirations and goals there's so many people with us even when Andrew was bouncing around the NFL like how could you like let him do. This is pretty much. Or how did you take on that lifestyle and in a solid marriage. It's kind of like well. It's not my choice. Yeah my my job is to support my husband and vice versa. I think that's really cool. I think every marriage has a different variation of that like your guys was a decision that you could make uh-huh for Sean and I even like there was some things I guess. I didn't envision US having to go through or me and my my wife having to go through but when I show Sean be my wife. It's like okay. Well you know she's going to be doing public speaking and she's going to be doing like walking. I never saw that as a part of my life but I guess part of me was like okay. Well this is. I Love Sean. I want her to be my wife and this is her calling so I just have to be either be supportive in that and like uh I think deciding what what that there's a lot that can that can be negotiated needs to be compromised on in marriage but like the context of you making. That decision was like you had a family history. And doing it and had been your desire that you'd likely talked about like it wasn't just some random thing like I want to start a food truck doc right I want to. I want to serve my country and and you supporting that hued. I can't imagine how hard that would be. Huge has off the both of you thanks. Yeah what's the hardest thing about doing long distance this each other like I think I think that's the the hardest thing for me or or like you know I I hate being like I always like. It's hard for me to fully experience. An awesome thing without Josh flakes allowing it to go on a trip or something. I'm just like the whole time thinking. Oh my Gosh I wish to offers here be so much more fun. So I think it's like moments like that for me. The our agrees it's not. I think we've figured out like if we could. We see each other like once every two weeks it was. We didn't go crazy but if would start hitting like that two and a half three week mark it would bike. We get irritated about dump stuff. What is your average schedule at the moment to give people listening and idea of dinner frequently ebbe each other right now? We're going to see each other a good. Yeah but is that hard you have to have you coming back was it's like I mean it was great but it was always struggling. I think I think if I if I maybe I can speak for the women here. we're very independent. And when and I talked about this with another military wife you know when your husband's gone doing deployments or for training or all these things they basically are wanting you to be super independent like you know. Make sure and take care of herself so like when Josh comes back Birlik Andrew comes back. You'd have to get rethinking about somebody else in like what they WANNA do. And I know that that sounds kind of selfish. It is really selfish. But it's like it's true like I think it's I'm like oh well. This is where I'm used to eating. I'm used to doing this. I'm used to going here. I'm used to working on it this time. But no there's somebody else that switch it off and off and honestly it takes a transition but yeah Andrew Nye whenever we did a few years. We're just like on and off all the time and when we are way we figured out our rhythm Tom and then only got together. We figured out over them but those transition times by two or three days it was like I don't like this. Uh Hey you've been home for a second we've been able to figure it out. Awesome for sure. It's been like three months back like a month August. Wow Are you guys are gonNA love languages do yeah I We know each other's love language. I think I know you're lovling serious. Hey gifts gifts and Mike affection garage hodge come on quality time I thought I would say like affection or physical. Touch is my first one. Yeah I'd say my mind. Physical touching quality time yours is words of affirmation quality. Yeah probably at least you'll have one of the same we have. I would say yours are words that I formation any words affirmation. No yeah I mean that might be Alek showing all of it. Everything all right so if we don't if we don't WanNa talk about that that's fine but you wrote a song. I'm lonely call. I believe yes. You have somewhat of a volatile relationship. Sounds like okay so we broke for two years and and we've of course eventually got back together and got married but yes so it was actually really funny if you know Josh's rather jd he he is like one of the most hilarious humans ever and he like he released that song. Obviously I wrote about were you aware are writing and releasing facing this on. I didn't I honestly don't think well when we got married. Okay but I don't think I heard the song until we got back together to play it for you. Yeah Sally makes me salad a total tool so it wasn't like story of your together and then you break up. It was just like I mean I wrote that song when we were broken up and you now I don't know diary feel bad about it. But it's like my highest like song when it comes to like tames like relatable is it okay. I will say though. I'm so thankful that we broke up because we got together. We knew that we remember each other like there was like no denying it in every relationship like of people that I've met that like have had that where they broke up a little bit got together. They've always lasted. I think there's something to that. The I definitely wrote that song are there was one that I wrote now. This is the one that jd was being funny about was was better do it. When I wrote and I released on an EP and it was like you say you better do it and I was talking about like stepping up to the house so like I think about took seventeen year old Mir eighteen year old me? That was like so Sassy I'm by myself. I was just like I don't even know how I survived in the world at that but that being said how'd at at any of US arriving if like my brother has any chance to make fun of me he will and so he was making he was making fun of the fact that I released that song. And Yeah I think you even like congratulate me on the EP and actually felt bad about it from me ray jaws break up at all. Elite did not know we. We had some rough times where we get probably have broken up. Yeah yeah kind of the ground running fast awesome sauce like our second date was his brother's wedding. This is one of those I think ars I probably examples. I probably could have broken up with him. He's like you WANNA come to my brother's wedding with me. I was like sure why not. It's kind of weird. Meaning your parents as fast fast but sure I fly to San Diego for it land at the airport. And he's like oh I'm in the wedding I need to leave you hang out with my family way. Peace out by the way you're going to be staying in a hotel room with my sister my sister in law and my shit lifetime Nando user her and Wow also you're not allowed to be in any pictures but you can take us members said this to me. And he's like do you WanNa have breakfast with me tomorrow and I was like. Oh my Lord here zero awarding into that too like you just got their morning no zero. I thought I was going to be back back. That's amazing and it worked out but it was just comical. I do have to say your son. You're talking about most dream songs ever Queens Queens. Don I feel like needs to be played in every household. I'm GONNA play that for drew and thank you for the good thing. I'm curious curious. I'm looking at both of you. Guys arms here tattoos the tattoos. Well specifically tell me about when that happened that that might have happened for got when we got engaged. Yeah I think I got your birthday okay. So and then we got her. Name's ally I think we just like you know that birthday and the name Eh say never forget providing almost on my birthday on me so I was looks great down there on my back and reassure sure it was like stenciled go and I. I like notice becher birthday overdoing each other. The thing is is like I put it on my back and I was like I want and then I saw some like I saw a couple that had each one of the The spouses spouses names. And they were in a heart on their arms. GonNa want that just got. Why don't you have my name tattooed on your body Tattoos Sean? Has she get some tattoos. How many times do you have just to? I can add twenty though I love him. Mugabe do I know I would have first. One's the hardest. I had to dude like the heart in Kita Song. What does that first? 'cause the Davis the first tattoos the amazing didn't sound like delivered the lyrics the lira the lyrics 'cause it does it does hurt the worst the first one is this handwriting. Now this is all this is all I just found it online or go to define Levin Kinda ghetto. But this is. What would dolly do the Chihuahua? No no not much wallace is lying. You know but this is like that me into my best friends have that one. I like my least favorite tattoo. Not because now I can say it. What what what is it Jerry? My best friend so I love it. Yeah but it does look trashy on my foot. I'M NOT GONNA lie. What is it to CACTUS? And it's on my ankle. What we but I don't like I don't hate it and I can't session where I'm wearing tennis shoes? It looks like it's like pop it out of my tennis shoe and I'm just letting issue Kenny. She does too that he ever heard issue. It's not ten ten. Thank you okay. Shop talk she will she will change. We shortchange that patio. She won't change the way she says. How do you say L. Ohio? Yeah what is that red for you. Well I L I l know this stuff you put in a car in jail okay. Okay I didn't know if you're an old girl girl I would say another one but how do you say well. I'll take that because I am. I mean I can tell you the things that I do. That annoy him then not annoy like pet peeves leaves now. I know what I do something. If Josh you'RE GONNA say for instance I always tires not always gotten better roth. That's when I when I back out of our driveway and Josh goes you've gotta take it slow like or you're GONNA mess up. You're gonna Miss Tires so I always take it super slow will yesterday. What a spin out to make a point in the driveway? There's loose gravel ray will always hit it in like fin the tires. So I've been really good about it like and this is what you're taking me. 'cause I've been super good about being slow going up. The hill slopes I don't roll tears and I backed up because I was in a Russian go go and I was like Shit. I'm GonNa get it when I get back to being a snug. But you didn't but you were just like within. He said remember. I mean that's banking thing. One thing that Josh is not like to for me. I'm like my mom I will. Aw drive a car until it has like five miles down to one three o'clock you. What does that a quarter of a tank? They always be able. He's always thinking worst case scenario. You should always be with. You had to get away. You should be able to get somewhere like five miles out of I literally dragged a Franklin. The other day was like twenty miles left. And I'm like I could make it home. It's fine and I came home on like one. They get mad. Oh He's pissed. It's like a game for her. I'm like no just fill up on gas because because of you run out of gas and I'm going to have the comfort and save. Yeah it's a bad situation situation to be like stranded on the side of the road. No gap person. That'll bring me bank it on the Nice first pitch black black in the middle of tornado since catch balls. That's really the only thing I can think about that. I think there's a lot to be excited about this year right. I'm so excited music coming out that I'm real excited about this is like it's awesome. Yes I'm in new record deal with quarterlane Thank you and it's really cool because I get to own more of my music which I think is super important and the AM relic side release. Israel's new music is GonNa be really fun so for people listening what would you. Where would you want them to go to listen? Follow of course any of like the streaming services spotify Pandora all that stuff but The ashy becoming the next month. Well I was out next month and February and then I have my ep. Come Out March could we say. Can we say the names of the songs now. I can't do the name of the name of the saw. Why not teasing a little bit? it's my next will be keep up. Wait does one we say yeah we heard or seen Zinke bup. That's right show. Yeah that's actually. Why can't talk about that? 'cause it's surprise was leaving a surprise. That's I don't know if this topic but with the same label as Taylor Swift Right And then is ownership a big obviously song. Well this is my thing when you first China like when I first signed to big machine nobody knew who the heck out was so if a company is going to invest a lot of money in you they should probably have the ownership of your songs right. It's kind of like a bank right there putting the money in you but eventually I do believe in reversion rights for eventually owning your own product because those songs make money any forever so I think that's what she was talking about but yeah interesting so now now that I've put out music and I've been successful in it when I went to get a new deal I I was able to own more of of that income and now I know with I think with Taylor's new deal. She owns one hundred percent of it and they probably a little bit of it. But yeah but that's that's really any label when you first start out. Yeah issues on so messed up on a while of it though I we can talk to you guys forever and just keep going but we want to be conscious of time. We wanted to close with you guessing and a duet of your song choice. Yeah Yakking play once on guitar. Shallow in new serious notes. Not that good thank you can play one song. And it this wagon wheel axles golfing for us Um Come on you can plan. You can play the song I know. You don't have the same but you can play it. That's awesome three days. Learn and I'm not very good at it so still impressive and it was like a youtube learn so it was like positive video every five seconds trying to sell you. You did was singing with him and he goes. Oh you didn't come into the right time expert. After how's that God. Was this like all inspiration. After he started wearing race clothes honestly will forever go down as one of the funniest. He's like all this is my favorite astray. You gotta get shirt feels good. Yeah yeah closing question. The greatest piece of advice you'd give or you have received yes about your marriage dating a a in. This might be like cliche but I always like thought like. Don't try to change the person like when you marry someone or when you date. Someone know that they're going to stay who they are and you should celebrate who they are. So don't try to change the other person. Just you love that person. You'RE GONNA love who they are and I. I don't know if you try to mess with them too much. It's going to take away from what they truly are. I don't know if that's true. I think the the biggest for Miami. I know everybody's different but I think faith is a big thing and and like I know we both leave you know this is our Lord and Savior and I feel like keeping him in in the middle of our whole situation has been the biggest thing for me because at the end of the day like when we're upset at each other were you know just not together or anything like that's the one thing that always keeps us together as knowing that God has a really big plan for our our lives. I love your stories. Awesome bike sharing whenever the time comes. I think it's worth sharing more widely because I think there's a lot of couples that could get encouragement from it but appreciate you guys spending time. The golf okay. I'm I'm really good at us. I'M NOT GONNA say it wrong scrabble. Scramble scream okay. I'll say wrong. scrabble scrambled thanks guys. Thanks for having.

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eps.022 - Josh Donaldson - Bitcoin Radio Executive Producer

Bitcoin Radio

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eps.022 - Josh Donaldson - Bitcoin Radio Executive Producer

"WHAT'S UP BITCOIN radio. What's up Crypto coin intruder community. I am Joe Blackbird host. It's good to be live again. It's actually been probably a few weeks. Maybe three weeks and you know I feel like honestly mostly you know. Live videos are home for me like this is what I know to do. It's like in my blood at this point and I've been doing podcast now for the last six weeks. You know it. It makes it really fun to kind of. Come back to what I'm used to. What I'm good at I mean I hope I'm good about the podcasting is great and I'm really grateful for all the all the encouragement all the support all the listeners specifically the listeners right and today. I'm going to introduce you to our executive. Executive Producer Josh Donaldson L. Bring him on momentarily but hey look if you're just bored sitting around today and you want to be part of this is going to be episode twenty two right so this is going to literally be the next episode of Bitcoin Radio and we're GONNA at least do this once a week where I hop on. Maybe Josh Showings in and out but I want to encourage orig- the listeners at home where the people at home who want to be part of this who want to have a voice who wanna have thoughts or questions addressed. I think it's absolutely absolutely relevant in an awesome for you guys to participate in this so you know may or may not work out today. I do know this. You have to be on a computer. You've got to be using chrome or fire. Fox or chrome compatible browser for this to work and if you don't want to if you don't want to show your pretty face or if you want you want to be anonymous one where mask. I'm okay with that right or you can just darken on your screen or put your thumb over it. Maybe some tape whatever it might be anyways guys welcome to again like I said episode twenty two. This'll be the next episode of a Bitcoin radio all right now now as I just mentioned. We're going to join US very shortly. momentarily he'll be on. I want to introduce Josh to the Bitcoin community and the Crypto Coin Tray community community that that is watching right now and cheers to all you who are watching leave some comments say hello but but Josh Donaldson who's the executive producer for the BITCOIN radio. Show podcast is also friend of mine and this guy is more than just you know someone who helps out bitcoin radio. He's done a lot and he's got a really awesome story. He's got a really interesting person but more importantly what I really. WanNa point out is that he's been absolutely influential. In the growth in where BITCOIN radio is today. I would say say that we as Bitcoin radio goes you know the success that we've been able to obtain and the amount of viewership obviously has a lot to do with the initial community that that's part of it cvt what's up. David what's up Ashley Mouse built in the House and having the opportunity to not just interact as bitcoin radio with the community and and I'll I'll even back up a little bit. Josh Donaldson has made such an impact on me as a person that I really want everybody here to Yeah No. That's the easiest way to say it so I'm going to bring here Josh on Josh. I think you're ready to bring on here in a second but if you have questions or comments please feel free to ask dimmer interject or to request to come join us. I'm happy to have you on. I look forward to it. You know it's going to be a Lotta. Fun anyways without further. Ado let's bring on Josh De Vegas Vegas. What's up? Josh may man Joe Lambeau what's going on today. I feel like a menu home court. I was down to do the podcast gas. We're playing live. It's like I'm I'm playing. I'm a Peewee peewee basketball and I'm playing against Lebron. I like it. Just call me Lebron James. I'll take all day no obviously Josh you're. You're more than prepared for this at any given moment. You've been around for a long time doing a lot of cool. Things and you have a great story to tell so. Let's go ahead and introduce you. Josh Josh first off. Tell us who you are. I mean Josh debates. I mean what does that even mean well. It's just because I spent fourteen years of my life working on the Las Vegas Strip up and the largest chunk of my adulthood was on there that was a moniker that that came early on in that and just kinda stuck so so you know I i. I've tried to get from time to time but it's definitely my twitter handle so I gotta I gotTa shout out twitter handle absolutely not you know it's only a matter of time till people like start naming their kids at you know John Smith Right. We're not I hope not but surely it's coming. I mean what's I can't believe. It hasn't happened yet. That people aren't actually literally naming their kids that twitter. Is that a thing. I don't think so I mean I get or somebody in a tattoo with their twitter handle. I'm sure people done that all right so let's kind of keep going with you. Josh Executive Producer for BITCOIN radio. Obviously I kind of surprise you earlier in the week or last week and I said Hey Josh WanNa do this. this one of the interviews with you and I was surprised that you're surprised you know I I feel like this is well-deserved and it's awesome for me to be able to set up here next to you and you know we had Jim Scam Polian a few weeks back and it was awesome to have him on because he interviewed me but this was. It's GonNa be a little different. I I really want the big wing radio community to get a chance to know who you are and to see how credible and what we're actually going to build with this platform in this This brand and I ah you know I can say as much as I want. A lot of people know me throughout Crypto but I've always been really really calm and really quiet on what the intentions are for what I wanted to be and regardless Josh you bring that level of credibility and legitimacy that I've been trying to you know figure figure out how I was going to do it myself and low behold as a gift from God himself you know Josh shows up in my life and you know me and Josh have become pretty good friends. I would say we bonded over medieval things between our you know our faith and our ability to to see you know what Bitcoin Radio Camby but let's just kind of go ahead and start with you know who you are far as a person and while you're even doing bitcoin radio yeah no absolutely I definitely I. I think that I like to find myself. Somebody who's he's a bit of a technologist. you know. I don't code but I I have an understanding of technology and passion for it a group in Seattle and we always followed Microsoft Bill Gates and turned and you know that we were a huge tech hub in in the nineties before the valley really really got known for some of these larger companies than so my career was based around music but technology was always where my heart was and my dear friend Patrick mclain nine CDC CEO of Mouse Belt came to me and my ass melt and said that he had a brilliant idea of pairing you with me and and he saw something in the U. and I didn't and then nobody else did and here we are. I think that bitcoin radio is something that hopefully you know we feel a little bit different than what everybody else is doing out there and you know the. H- Kudos to lower Shin pomp and to what Bitcoin Dead Peter McCormick and Charlie Schram and all the you know the backup is all the great of podcasts that are out there. you know hopefully we can find our own voice and do something a little bit different. You know we're we're still getting getting our legs underneath of us. It's about six weeks as we said I think it's going to be about three to six months before we really find our identity but I would hope my vision vision for us is for you to be you know a bit of a an extended mouth of the community. You know people can trust you. I trust you. You're very trustworthy person and I think the community can come to you and you have a strong community in CPT and people trust you with their thoughts and opinions and you know you're. You're an honest person and I think that what we want big win. Radio is just an extension of who you are and something that somebody's we're listening to what the community has to say and we're embracing that and I appreciate the complements to Josh. It goes both ways up. You brought up Patrick amounts about you know what's interesting. Interesting is the first time I mean I really got a chance to know Patrick about a year ago or so little little over a year ago he called. I was in Hong Kong and I was sitting with with Jeffer- tippy and injects been on C. T. before he's a funny guy. He's a lot of fun and and Jeff's like Patrick in Gaylon from from Ouseba. I was like man I that name sounds familiar you know and I mean obviously I'd seen and heard about mouse and I interacted with Patrick on small occasions occasions but he just called up Patrick. He's like Hey y'all gotta talk on the phone and so I did right and and me and Patrick immediately hit it off and obviously that that led to build a friendship around you know what they were trying to do and Patrick for all the crazy ideas these had I mean. It's been a lot of fun watching a lot of them. Come to fruition and one are those like as you said is is he noticed you know you were in a situation where you might have the opportunity to step away from what you're doing and and joined the team and he introduced us by just literally doing kind of the same thing. Jeff did he called you on facetime and just handed me the phone. He was like three o'clock the morning my time you know I don't want to was exactly the most sober person but I called called you and it was like ten o'clock in the morning for you and or maybe I don't three o'clock in the afternoon news like twelve hours difference my mask horrible but regardless we got a chance to interact and for the first time when I was in Thailand highland and that was so much fun and I look back now on that first introduction Josh and where we are today. It's crazy as a not. No it's been in wild ride. It's been an incredible for months said I'm looking forward to the future no absolutely so you know what what people watching and people who are listening on the podcast tomorrow you know what's what's a lot of fun about. Josh Josh is he's a really humble guy but after I finally kind of broke through that humbleness and got him to be a little bit. I don't WanNA say cocky because you're not cocky. That's for sure says you. I've got a lifetime of friends that are like finally he's Unbel- okay fair yeah but I mean this. Josh that I know is quite humble. Oh boy and you've been a josh. Josh two point zero has been quite humble but as you alluded to you know you've got extensive experience and you start in the music industry back in Seattle at very early age but what I didn't know was how real that that relationship was that you have with that industry and not just music just nightclubs and that and that whole you know Vegas. Hey Guess Mantra you kind of embodied for a long time and and folks. I'm not joking. I finally got Josh. Show me some pictures of him back in the day this dude sitting there with little wayne or the JC or I mean I can't remember all just about. I mean if I said their name. 'cause I got a picture. Hold on. Let me show you. I'm like holy crap. Just you didn't tell you this. It was so cool to watch you know you're who you were in that life and sitting next to the now. You're sitting there producing my show. What the hell am I doing yeah no well it. Was it was an exciting time. I actually learned a lot of lessons because behind a lot of the music industry is corporate companies not necessarily brands like Pepsi or more coca-cola or something like that but there's a corporations I learned a lot of incredible lessons while working on the Strip working for corporations understanding our ally while I was working with a lot of you know celebrities musicians throwing shows and festivals and concerts and all kinds of stuff over twenty plus years fourteen years in Las Vegas other years other places I i. I learned a lot of great lessons and those with me and been able to bring those to this project. No there's no doubt about that so you know we. We've talked about this several times obviously in our personal discussions. It's what we talk about all the time but you know I brought up on on the podcast. I I envision a bitcoin radio to be and Kinda. Put you on the spot with that Josh but I mean we kind of addressed the little bit about this but what do you what do you see like an for those of you listening and you're you're not watching obviously. We're doing this on a on a live stream cast. You know where we're using stream yard. I love that platform makes it really easy really simple but josh and I I have spoken about this in depth on numerous occasions Josh. I'M GONNA ask you in. You know we'll see what would you answer you. Come up with but you know I love to think about where bitcoin radio started needed and how it started the name Bitcoin radio. I mean we try to embody this on a really really high level obviously and we understand the responsibility comes with that but what do you see bitcoin radio long-term. Let's let's fash flash forward three years from now. What do you think in Josh. Where are we at. That's a great question Joe. I definitely hope that we we are one of an industry staple and were somebody that something that's very credible. and we have integrity and we're something we're you you know. I don't want to say that we embody a little bit of Joe Rogan a little bit of Mike and Mike a little bit a rush limbaugh. You know what I mean. Those those are Bill Maher yeah exactly all I just you know how Dennis Miller I think that more or less it's going to be just having an in some honesty out there and trying to stay neutral on positions and reporting the news but allowing bringing people on the in the space that have strong opinions and giving Minima form to be able to come on and stand their ground whether we agree with them or not. I think that there might be a lot of people that we don't necessarily agree with and I think that's okay. Everyone needs to have the voice and this is this. A community is great. I hope that in three years I mean we're looking at a fifty thousand dollar a BTC price and and were you know yeah exactly and widespread adoption in all hopefully bitcoin. Is You know used our will be used on a global scare scale much more than it currently is yeah and earlier you brought up a great point and you gave gave a shadow to some of the podcasters you know like pop and Lorsch and you know Rachel Wolfson ch Charlie Schramm McCormack Peter McCormack of course there are numerous and back crypto guys who I just adore you know those are those are great news and good friends Joel and Travis but there's for those the ones that I left out. Please don't don't there's only so much time obviously but I've really appreciate what they've already done for the space you know I'm I'm a newcomer SARS podcast and goes but I'm not a newcomer to the space or to so you know the entertainment of the space in some degree of the next and I really appreciate you know was listening to what pomp says or what what McCormick's doing you know. Peter McCormick pop have to very very drastic styles but they both have a really strong message and resonates with a lot of people and this goes for every podcast or whether it be bad crypto Lorsch and whether it be rich Wolfson Charlie shrimp etc and you know and I really. I don't know if you're listening Charlie's shrimps podcast but I love it. I mean it's it's a untold stories. I mean it's a really great concept and I love the way that he approaches it and he's a good storyteller to and for those of you who have listened to it. I suggest you least listen once but but I've really got huge appreciation for what all all these people have done for the space on a public level and what a lot of people don't realize is when you step out and become public and this is on a minor scale compared to like. Oh you know Lebron James or Little Wayne or somebody else right but in crypto you're susceptible to so much hate or so much criticism constantly every word that has to do with credit. You can't just beat yourself unfortunately because you have a responsibility not to mislead or to misrepresent or say something that might be deemed deemed inappropriate whereas if you go look through everybody else's you know they don't. They don't have any accountability that way. Maybe on minor level. Maybe do a family or friends. You know but it's it's not nobody is going to hold them there the fire but if you look at these people they've had to do things a certain way some of them pay the price already like. Charlie sherm went to jail you know and he talked about that on my my video but you know you made a great point yesterday Josh. I guess it was today when we were talking on a private call obviously about how we have to do things together and how important it is that we put ourselves in a situation where we do recognize that this is a team effort. Even if we don't overall agree you know. Why are we so separated. Why do why do people take such drastic excites you know and so many really hard positions that are just immovable money. That's the simple answer I mean. I think I think that I think that money and greed and power are huge. dividers have communities and brought down companies brought down great ideas. I mean we could take it all the way doc to Edison and Nikola Tesla you know Nikola Tesla had incredible inventions and saw a world that was wireless with Free Energy and Thomas Edison did not so there was a great divide between the two of them and backed by power and greed in the power of man Nikola Tesla so was silenced and now you barely hear his name he only in small circles. I mean obviously the Elon Musk you know name Tesla Tesla cargo opening after Nikola Tesla. You know what I didn't know I think he died at like under. The age of thirty was any like twenty nine or twenty seven. He died young. I figured as eighties no no no. No I know for a fact I think he was twenty six twenty seven when he died. Maybe twenty nine and you know the government killed them or somebody killed him right It's it's you know one of those things. Why were they so worried. Why how did he end up dead. You know it's just really strange to me. I mean I've seen everything being from Nikola. Nikola Tesla was actually a an alien who just knew how to communicate or I've seen that you know that he's he was he summoned like he created the Internet to begin with just the way that he connected everything I mean. This dude was a genius. Ham eighty-six Tesla Yeah. I thought it was eighty. Eighty five yeah he was born he was born July tenth eighteen fifty six in Austria and the Austrian Empire which is the Modern Day Croatia and he died January seventh nineteen forty three at the age of eighty six alone in New York City. Well there is is more to the story. I don't know I don't know yeah I always. I thought it was eighty. Five so I was off by a year. I thought he was like twenty nine when they killed him. He I mean you have to think of how he had a lifetime of work. I mean he was in Colorado in Colorado Springs for a number of years he was out. You're traveling the world I mean his his battles with Edison went on for decades like yeah. There's either way the whole point is is not necessarily about win how he was the the thing is that that he was silenced. His patents. I know that when you're supposed away of all the Technology Edison marked him as a fool at publicly and kept quiet and anyone that would work with him or give him a shot at growing his companies or funding him edison which steamroll I think that was more along the lines of that yeah and everybody corrected me starting with Jim Blasco telling me Tesla die when he's old Eric Doll he was eighty six John Ryan eighty-six Croatia firm. Hey y'all go on somewhere all right. How about this my show if Nikola Tesla wanted to die at twenty nine nine point nine well if we're gonna go that route we need to at least put them in the twenty seven clubs so he could have died with Jimi Hendrix Kirk Obey Jim. I'm Jim Morrison you know. Let's put them in the twenty seven club. I think what's her name. Amy Wine houses in there. You know rest in peace rest in peace to great musicians that kill themselves overdone overdo most recently we had what's his name. White Guy Rapper Mac Miller Mac Miller. He was twenty seventy. I'm not sure I'm not not gonNa sit there and say oh. He was twenty seven for sure this time I was twenty seven. I think he was heartbroken. Over Ariana Grande Dave but either way yeah yeah but anyways and I Apologize I. I don't know who I'm thinking of. Some genius was killed at like twenty nine years old killed. I mean yeah I guess World War One World War. Two anybody that if you didn't work for the empire whichever empire was you're getting taken out. Anyone you know is is a revolutionary is silenced. You know I'm sure there's all kinds of hackers that we don't know about that are down and you know what really surprises me though like if tests as he died at old man and obviously as long as I just I just I was still crazy a mess that up so bad but he did have so much. I tried to correct you subtly i. I tried to be subtle about the correction. Yeah I wouldn't happen. I wouldn't you doug you dug in on that one you bury yourself but you know it's just my ability ability to question the answers right. I respect that sure you almost you almost convinced I mean I was like. Wait a minute now. I saw the comments as I I just had a roll with it. I was like this you know you have to but it was the aliens that he was talking to the Diet at twenty nine. Maybe what's that called when they replaced. You like the Bernstein bears like everybody thought it was a barrel Mandela affect the Mandel effect. Maybe I oh yeah well. You know what the Mandel effect was caused by at tell me discern large Hadron collider when they actually were able to find the God particle article and start splitting atoms. That's when they say we started getting glitches in the Matrix. Let's see what people putting the comments about that. You know that's quite interesting interesting though because that actually makes sense right I love how humans we think were so important though you know it's just like the universe quite big and the split the Matrix only only on earth is quite think about all the Super Nova's I mean. Does that not split the Matrix. I don't know about that. I mean you know foreign Supernova was this aren't real. I mean I had super. I've had a Supernova in my mind before it didn't end well but fair enough yeah you. The Knicks Nipsy Russell was also twenty-seven with John Ryan thank you John just lay but but to your original point sorry that we got so sidetracked attract but you know people like Tesla who have given so much. I mean it's a comparison I think to these two people just doing goodwill right yeah. No absolutely I think that there's a comparison in you know bitcoin Tesla and Edison and financial institutions solutions or privatized banks for central banks you know because money and power will try to steamroll anything obviously Salihi. Whomever Komo is deeply thought about this this these problems for probably a decade or more before this project went public before the white paper came out before bitcoin became public because this is this has is global. It hasn't been stock doc. I'm sure there was a lot of effort to shut it down and stop it. I mean how much you know a decrepit decreasing. Do you think that is out there. Mainstream media now is adapting adapting to it because that's where the money is in the power is but large financial institutions are secretly behind it. They're in their long bitcoin. Dude Yeah I. I can't I agree with you. I just look at you know I mean I was saying this the other day too and it might have been one of my podcasts but like if we're honest with like the the market cap of Bitcoin. This is nothing for some of those big huge banks right. I mean they could come up. They can manipulate the price that they wanted to. I honestly believe that they are are hedging vets with their own investments by taking on an investment in Bitcoin just having a position because if they really believed or didn't believe the bitcoin they I mean they wouldn't even think about it. They wouldn't even be commenting on it. You wouldn't have J. P. Morgan saying this out of the other and then creating his cryptocurrency or Zone Blockchain Project Right O. Jab Morgan and probably as a trading desk aren't doing trading futures also they're. They're minimizing the risk on investing in it but they're definitely going to take your money. If let's say you WANNA trade aide you WANNA bet futures or and trade futures and you're going to come and you have a we have. Let's say that you and I have a firm with a large account with Gibby Morgan. We've got ten million in the bank. We Wanna go long on bitcoin or whatever trade futures J. P. Morgan is GonNa take our money you know so at some level weren't enough of their whales or clients. Come to them and say they want to do use something. They have to adapt to die. Because who were somebody else is. GonNa take our money. I Dunno Gemini or whoever else is a trade huge yeah and that's skirt point and these people are businessmen right and women business folks and they know how to make money and they've been very good at making money or else they would make their way when he they can teach us. We're paying paying attention yeah exactly I did. You speed up. Did you see the results of tether earlier. pippin accent and tether win. They won their appeal from the New York Supreme Court nine hundred million dollar case just just a minute ago yeah. This is incredible news. I was just reading this on Forbes right before we called in cryptocurrency. Exchange v necks as won an appeal in the New York Supreme Court which means it doesn't have to turn over documents pertaining to the use of the cryptocurrency tether so-called stable coins are supposed to be back on one by one basis by the US dollar however New York Tourney General in April accused the company behind tether of essentially minting cryptocurrency of forbidden to the tune of nine hundred million. That's a huge judgment right there against against the supreme core they were able to appeal. They don't have to turn over any documents. They don't have to prove anything and in all fairness. I think that's great because it's not like we were allowed allowed to have the US government's. GonNa tell us how much gold they have. You know nobody's able to audit the Fed. The Fed is the Federal Reserve is not even they who they the answer to a Rothschild's. I mean I don't I don't WanNA become a conspiracy theories on this channel but I will know. Conspiracies are welcome right. I mean I like talking about it. I mean I ask just about every one of them. I guess whether at least minimum have have aliens ever visit the planet Earth you know and occasionally bigfoot or some other craziness but I think it's fun. It's fun to kind of dive in. You know it's one of the things that I think it's made Joe Rogan's podcast so great and so fun that you know he's not afraid he's pretty unbiased right right and he's the average guy so he sits there and he's just like let's bring Bob Lazar who has been Larry. If one yeah exactly last night I last time I was awesome. Insomnia and I watched his recent interview with Sean Carroll where you have average Joe Rogan who's above average but you know he's an intelligent man who's in there and he's antion about quantum physics with Sean Carroll and they're talking about the breaking down all the latest of quantum mechanics things like that and he's trying to understand his latest book and Joe is in over his head but he wants to understand he wants to learn and that just is compelling for me. I'd rather rather listen to them. Go back and forth. You've been listening to a ninety minute keynote on quantum mechanics and technicalities behind it and quantum entanglement. I think I'd like to listen to both but I think it's more entertaining to listen to like you said average Joe Rogan trying to understand this and he's not just bringing on May fighters. He's he's having these conversations. He's reading this book. He didn't just have his his producer. Read the book like I read your books. You know I- Thankful Fan Hey. I'm not I'm not. I'm not talking about that. Hey why are we talking about. This and I'll reality though like what you said is is spot on. I agree and I think what has made your Rogan so successful is literally the ability for him to ask the questions that don't go over other people's heads right. I mean I can listen listened to just about any Joe Rogan podcast whether or not the actual topic interests me. It's not like that hard to listen to now. I know sample that just don't like his approach and that he might be a little bit. what's the word. He's not essential but yeah. I mean. He loves the MT Right. I mean that dude has he loves. He loves the experience. It's understandable why if you have any kind of curiosity of consciousness and understanding of the universe and you WanNa know what else is out there you know because you don't even it doesn't even have to be a religious based conversation. Even though people like ticket there you can have your faith firmly on the ground and be able to explore for your mind and meditation and the realms of possibility because just like we talk about the universe that's out there. There's a universe that's right. Here is well that we don't explore no dude agreed and the fact that people think I mean you know I have a ton of appreciation for science and I don't WanNa. I don't WanNa discount what science says but there's a lot that you know that we're still discovering and if we if we knew it all you know. I mean we'd be idiots. I mean like if we thought we knew excuse me but I've never done. Emt I've never really explored that world and honestly honestly it. Skills Broken has done it for you and I know and you can listen to Joe Rogan and get that experience. He tells you he doesn't tell you run out and go. Try it because you what happened to him what his experience was. What made him excited. What what made him scared areas. You know he asked those questions but you can listen to Joe Rogan and you can you can be at home with your wife or your kids. You could be at your job and your cubicle and listen to what Joe Rogan's experience was in the jungle taking Iowa skin smoking. You know what I mean you don't. I wonder how you don't have to go do that yourself. I wonder how many people have actually been inspired you know with with from I'm Joe Rogan's experience though to go. Try it because well first of all I mean Joe. Rogan is an influence her new influencers do so if if there was a brand of d. m. t. like Nike Mate DMT their stock would go up after every time. Joe Rogan talks about it. There's no doubt that goes without saying fortunately in this case there is no not at least legally speaking or public companies lies. There is no brand for damn. You're right it would be somebody. IPO DMC on a foreign exchange after this. We're going to know that we're winning our piece. This kind of the sleepless lead me to another thought Josh and that is you know right now with with as it becomes more or maybe I should say less taboo to have these conversations because twenty years ago nobody would admit. Ed had nothing to lose right. I mean if you're just like some hippie back from the you know from the that's what everybody was doing. Everybody that was experimenting or looking at conscious was labeled a hippie no matter where yeah you know what I mean either. You were hippy or your conformist. You're burning your bra or you're voting for Reagan. Yeah Yeah No. That's a that's a great point and I mean obviously there was that's those are some generic statements but it's absolutely a great blanket statement for that that time period I think and now the that science is being able to test and play with this these these not just these mine enhancing or mind altering substances. They're able to to make sure that they're safer. I think you know the future and I hate to to make this all about drugs because that's obviously not what we're here to talk about. No not at all because I'm definitely not a proponent of Orson and we WANNA make that clear. We're not sitting here telling people to do drugs or really is the whole point was you mentioned aliens and Joe Rogan and we were just talking talking about consciousness. We're talking about you know quantum mechanics. We're talking about being able to have these conversations and I think that the kind of people that support the crypto community and the kind of people that believe in Bitcoin bitcoin off the jump or the kind of people that challenge these questions after the kind of people that want to know what else is out there. What am I capable up and they don't want to conform to the standards of society not that are passed down and push pressed upon them financial freedom. They want mental freedom. They WANNA be able to have their rights. Absolutely I've got now. I've got several friends as CRYPTO. You mentioned how how Joe Rogan has kind of done it for us you know and he talks about it. I've got a lot of friends in Crypto who also have shared experiences but nevertheless as a whole the crypto sphere as you just mentioned is very open to at least exploring the ideas of the concepts behind the stuff and as as we move forward I anticipate this as the taboo. It stripped away whether it be on crypto currency whether it be on you know. GMT we're going to start really being being able to progress enhance our personal as people go you know not honestly government speaking but as people go our our lives. I think there's a lot to be said about our cowger awakening absolutely right essentially the consciousness of the ascension of our consciousness where do you where do you see as bitcoins is rolling and really blockchain in general what you see. Josh as blockchain's role in the future like I mean I know it's a very generic and broad statement. But where do you see that I mean. We have sun a a little bit earlier because it's so speculative of a question. Where do I hope to see it. I just hope to see empowering more people in having financial freedom. Do I have all the F. Answers not at all. Do I love the space followed the space early on absolutely in my honor to be part of it yes of course and my day trader no not not at all. I have yeah I have. I remember the first time that Bitcoin went to three hundred dollars. Whenever that was early early on and then I actually had a friend of mine that worked with me. Sal Wise Shout Sal we were working together are at the before it was the Hawks Group. It was a different name. Odor company Angel Music Group and we were both there we were following bitcoin and I remember that I talked optum into buying some hit twelve hundred and he bought like two or three of them. I remember we were all excited and then plummeted and I was thinking glad it wasn't my the money you're hanging there. I got the next round of drinks. No I been there before obviously and I think it's really you know one of those types of of situations. I mean I've been in that. Same shoes obviously Josh. It's a lot more personal. I think for you because for me I'm speaking as a as someone who's pretty public and use of this but you know the influence you can have on somebody divide crypto and then I let it go up and they're like yes encrypted but they never thank you. After the first time I'm you know for now all of a sudden genius for getting in right so go down my father's seventy years old and he wants to understand what we're doing right right now. A good portion of my life is bitcoin radio with Joe. Blackbir- and you know this is how we want to have a voice in the space you you bring we bring people on the show talk with you and to be able to tell us their thoughts and where they say the future and where they see it going and hopefully those are respectful conversations. I think that they've all been respectful today where we let that people come on and say their piece so my father wanted to know a little bit more about what what's this bitcoin thing you know and I brought I brought that up to you and you're like that. That's great we want to be able to have even the the novice be able to come on and understand. They're not going to understand everything but they're gonna be able to have an idea of it so I set my dad up a small amount of BTC one hundred dollars or so and got him on coin base and you know he's he's not very tech savvy whatsoever and he's sitting there and you know he he's watching it and he he's got it and then you know he's calling me and he's like we're up. We're up. It's up three and I got lucky that I sent him one hundred dollars months ago when it when it hit ten K. like right at ten Kaelin ten thousand five dollars or something like that so that he can put that he can know that if it's one hundred dollars prices at back at ten gay without looking at it does that make sense absolutely and then if it's if it's down to ninety seven dollars he knows the price of BTC is ninety seven hundred Da da so my father is sitting there and he's like son. We gotta pull out your down six dollars. We gotta get this but you know what I mean and it's because he told me because you have to remember we come from an era where we're we were. You're smarter with your money. Upside lose more conservative with the money saying and savings and and then the era before him his parents parents era was they were alive breath win all the banks wit under overnight you know and all the banks like sorry your money's gone imagine a Bank of America and we talk about the bail out. I don't think people really understood what a bail out was and why there was a bail out there was a bailout because all the clients and customers of those banks would have had no money any you would have been in solve it would have been over you know what I mean just like Enron so if imagine if you will bank of America Chase Wells Fargo Credit Unions tomorrow. We're like we're sorry we're closed. People can't fathom that they don't understand that they're like. Where's the money whereas you have my money will no they don't they take your money and then they lend you know and that's the whole scheme of it because a lot of people don't understand financial institutions. It's so my father goes my you know the generations before him came from that where the banks remember the banks being gone one day and all of a sudden every your life savings has gone your checkings gone. There's nothing there's no retirement in you know we're standing in line to get a piece of bread so what they did for the next forty thirty years though the next generations was hide cash hide their money hide the gold high silver he talked about a family friends grandparents passed away and they found like years later fifty thousand dollars under the floorboards and it wasn't because grandma was a drug drug dealer because grandma was a trade the banks were. GonNa fail so bitcoin. Hopefully is a solution to that it empowers the people to be in charge of their own money and whether you know obviously it's still an electronic based money money but the thing is though the paper dollar. You don't need to have something tangible. We nobody uses cash anymore. It's so rare unless you're doing a little bit of tipping dude. It's inconvenient for me to have with. Hash with apple pay. I just blipped my phone on everything I use apple. TV Apple Phone and this isn't a shouting on apple or anything like that but it makes it so convenient that at all times you push a button and spend your money in the APP in the system. You don't ever see it so it's psychologically. You don't know that you're spending the money but there's the ease of use so you're not saving the cash so if these banks and now apple has their own credit card. I want to know what people think about that. You know what do you think about. Babbel now being the largest one of the largest banks in the world overnight but aside from that is that people now you. You don't have cash but you you. You're not gonNA be able to you don't have to store it in your floorboards but you also don't have to go out and trust that bank so bitcoin and this is a long conversation grabbing my my the point but empowers you to be able to take control of your money and your wealth and you know what you're doing and be able to transfer large sums of money and be able to you know there's there's a lot of things that I it empowers us to be able to do absolutely well said and I look at I think apple has a pretty good reputation as as far as you know they protect your privacy and you know there have it. I mean obviously this is relative but you know considering what Google does and how they exploit or considering how facebook has been exploiting. I mean maybe apple is a little bit better but maybe they just haven't got caught yet right. I mean you know and this is warning to everybody if you keep seeing something pop up on your iphone especially with the new. IOS Iowa's thirteen or whatever it is you know if it says Hey Bluetooth wants to access your location you. We should say no to that for the record so that is that a thing that they're trying to do right now. What it does it allows you to getting phone calls the last three days? I getting phone calls. Does your cloud has been hacked but I know I'm being trolled. Just you know some some good scammer yet we'll have. I I was like wait a minute what and then I'm like. No it hasn't now. I mean and they transfer you. They if you go through the motion transfer you to somebody like oh Mr Donaldson. You know what I mean. We'd like Yeah Yeah. That's that's high level stuff. Take me off that. Call this please. One time I got a call from a SCAMMER and they're like Mr Blackburn. You have an unpaid paid. You know bounce check from four years ago and I'm like what I was like eighteen years old. I wasn't writing checks and they're like well. Someone someone did and your name and it needs to be addressed or you're going to have a warrant out for your arrest immediately. In fact you already have worn out and the police are going to be called here. I'm like twenty one twenty two years old. I'm I'm like what they're gonNA. Come arrest me because of what how much is it like five thousand dollars. I'm like Oh man. You should have said like one hundred twenty because I would have paid it right then you you know but five thousand dollars five thousand dollars eighteen. There's no way I mean if someone did that. That's easily explainable and I'm not I'm not participating in your scams but they could have gotten me and I I was scared to death up until the moment doubt relies like five thousand dollars at eighteen years old no way that's bullshit. You know they had me up written a check or debit card site for one hundred twenty bucks. We'll I mean it's the same thing with US currency. We wish any technology any finance. I mean there's very very very brilliant. Cons out there. There's incredible brilliant people that are like Bernie madoff that are that that are trying to I mean they take people's money you over and over and over again so sure I mean this. This is why privacy comes into place. Who was the gentleman that we had in one of the early shows Jamison Lop so I don't think we talked about it a little bit. He does this famous article in the New York Times about him about he made this whole fake identity he and he lives under a fake identity because he doesn't want anyone to know him and now I don't WanNa have to go to that length but I think that everyone should listen. Listen and take you know. Take care of your freedoms. Don't just sit there and point your finger at at Mark Zuckerberg and say we'll facebook took all my data well. Well you know what protect your data get off the couch. Turn off Netflix or a second and take a look in just google just Google for a second what it what the steps are. You're for your privacy people to take responsibility for themselves. I use brave as a browser shut up. I loved your everything yeah of course Boris and it's incredible browser. It's old chrome team. It's lightning fast and they were mad at me for making the news for this of course and every other tab they asked hey. This is tracking your location. This tab is tracking your data this habit and they're letting you know what's going on. People don't realize your phone own. Is your phone your computer software your giving everything away all the time. You can't just look at Cambridge Analytica. They took advantage of it and you know what's funny. You can't blame them is ethically wrong yes but is there money and power behind it of course and anywhere where there's money and power. We've already proved this conversation. That's where they're going to push the ONL-. No well well. Josh I correlate this back to you know even early days. I've been on facebook and I know you've been on twitter since its inception March two thousand eight. I think I was like six months. I remember when it started but I was early early same thing with me on facebook and I think I was November. Two thousand fourteen at it was like that springer that summer that facebook and I remember like my friends had gotten into august-september ish. I think you mean early early. Two two thousand two thousand fourteen was five years ago. Sorry two thousand four yeah. You can look at my facebook yeah. I know I know what you what you meant. I just wanted to make sure to clarify people. WE'RE GONNA be talking to my grandma was on facebook earlier than you know exactly now two thousand and four and this was I think November is what is literally on my facebook profile and you can see that you know assuming you had an easy you call up. That's when I was at Mississippi eight studied so we you were just in somewhere. We adjust all gone straight my space. We were friends people I was living in Los Angeles at the time and in Los mice was a huge L. A. Thing and it was like all of a sudden one summer I want us to Otari years something like that and my timelines timelines. Jd Go on friendster and then all of a sudden like went out like we're leaving friendster. Everybody goes switch and I was like I twenty five thousand people on my space and we're all following the Tom Movement but then friends with Tom. Yeah exactly Tom He surely go to instagram. He's an incredible photographer offer. He didn't make hundreds of millions of dollars. You didn't make billions but he made a little bit of money. You know I think he made like twenty thirty million and I'm sure he's a very intelligent man. I only heard the kindest things a couple times. He's really quiet nice. You know he looks just like the photo. It's Kinda funny but he's really really intelligent man super sweet and I'm I'm sure he took that money and invested in farms. I wish nothing but the best for him because I know he didn't data and make millions and millions or billions billions off and what's funny twenty is Tom's. The champion and something must have happened because think about this face. My space still is owned by somebody because they had all that data that was never sold or what have you so it's been the company and the rights to all that data have been stalled multiple times. Now there are no it makes complete sense. I think it was Fox. News Wasn't that he sold it to originally. I remember it became like a music some but Neva's later on I want to say the my space sold to the Fox Corporation Operation Merdeka Anyway. We're all off that by then but so you were early on facebook while we were still heavy my space. I didn't get on facebook to a little bit later. I I was trying to be like you know college kids. Blah Blah Blah and it was really basic too. I mean like you could either lovely change facebook but you know and it would say like understood as joe is or something like it. The everything was just different. You could literally change what people wrote about you on your own all right you. Can you remember the facebook poke. That was like the worst thing by the way still around mine. I promise you I'm GonNa poke you later on today. Just that's like look. Hey Josh Josh Vegas on facebook but what I was GonNa say whatever you do. Don't Send Me Farmville Okay I'm done. I'm over no more farm. I'm bill that was probably back in the day yeah. I'm not sure I was dating Zanga. Zinger was the name of the company they were worth a billion dollars and then they couldn't have a follow up the Farmville oh so they did form bill to which still did okay but in the mobile APP. The company took a lot of debt in thinking that they were GonNa. It'd be that successful forever. I remember they. They had a bunch of real estate in downtown. San Francisco the at Bat Yep Yep. Eric says it was Fox core not news but he was agreeing with because I think you made that notation afterwards in our John Ryan says you know who was partnership few years back and re recently was thirty two million last known in group Justin Timberlake like I guess he's talking about the same yes he's right. Okay so Justin Timberlake Shadow John Justin Timberlake was part of a company that went back in and they'd be because there was still will all this all these emails all this information. You know what I mean. It was it might have been old database. Still it's worth something as we now know. Data is everything think data is gold. You know what I mean. I mean I'd love to see if if a bit of a one. BTC is ten thousand dollars. I'd love to see what one gigabyte of data is worth to a large company to a fortune five hundred company. You know what I mean. Tell me if I have hosmer data worth one hundred thousand terabytes. I mean well. You gotta think about it like this. It's all based off a lifetime. You just told me that you've been on facebook since two thousand four. They have fifteen years of every interaction you've ever had in your life. They now have they continue next month. What's scary. Is I'll be really this is. You don't even want to hear this so like probably four or five years ago. It came out in Silicon Valley. I remember I was living in San Francisco score. Just moved there. That facebook had an algorithm that they shut down because they founded on an ethical surprising them but that they that they could pinpoint when people couples. We're going to break up or or get together with ninety eight percent accuracy based off of what you were doing doing online and how you interacted the computer could predict machine learning algorithm could predict to a ninety eight percent when you were going to break wake up your marriage whatever it may be and I think that they probably still have it internally and have a few beers at the office for happy hour and be like all right. WHO's breaking up. This different pushed the button. Oh Mary Liquidation Button Yeah. They're they're checking on the HR team engineering teams like Oh. No you know anyway. We're getting off topic but yeah of course actually something I wanted to ask ask you. Did you see the Google NASA document that came out on Friday no but I've heard about it twice. You're the actual time that's been brought up so I will be ghost. The ghost post okay. Google creates the world's most powerful computer NASA accidentally reveals it and then the publication fantasies oh you uh-huh Google's new quantum computer reportedly spends mere minutes on tasks. The world's top computers would need several millennia to perform the media found out about this after NASA accidentally shared the firm's research yet the the stats on this are mind boggling. NASA pulled down immediately in the research. Google reportedly claims the takes their new quantum processor just two hundred seconds to make calculations that existing supercomputers require ten thousand in years to perform. They could actually mean sorry. Let me say one more. No no no they also said the processor requires a mere thirty seconds to complete a task that Google cloud cloud servers would need fifty trillion hours to do gracious you know to think about what computers are capable right now and to think about what would require. That type of power is just absolutely insane. We'll I want to say that how I mean. We've all secretly known that Google was doing something like this. I mean yeah of record got leaked by NASA how long was going to be before they went public and what. What are they solving. What did they know that we don't know they're trying to. They're trying to evolve all everything behind closed doors that can privatize it. Of course. They also want to make sure that it's not just on that level they WANNA protect it and use it on a probably a military canonic basis to for the betterment of those who are in power. I would assume I mean either way. There's a lot of things that obviously aren't public public but the if you had that power what would you do with it like. Would you like think about this is wrong or would you say you know. I've got this. You're not created. It's my invention. I can talk about supercomputing quantum mechanics or it specifically general but yes. I mean this case. I mean one of the one of the goals of of you know quantum mechanics would be supercomputing would-be breaking incriptions I when when you and I had our our dryer on last week you asked me what my favorite movie was and and I said sneakers and if any will one of my favorites Yup Yep and if anyone remembers sneakers Robert Redford and wasn't River Phoenix Shadow River Phoenix recipes but so in that movie they that they there's a there's a gentleman Janik who Russian scientists and comes up with the black box that can break break any encryption and and so you have the any airline anything and I think that with that level of supercomputing you. That's what you could do you. You could hack any government. You could take over any power station in Iran you. Could you know to to whatever you could access whatever it may be you so you can break the blockchain. Christians you know but I don't know I don't know I it's it's I ma a huge huge fan of the information and studying it but I'm not educated enough to speak on if that if you know that's that's a good point. I love to study quantum entanglement but I definitely there's so there's it gets to the is some people call a pseudo science. Some people call it philosophy. Some people call mathematics and all major all of it but quantum mechanics definitely not something that I am qualified to be speaking about now and I think that goes for all of us except a few right and there's not many people who are in the people that are you know are typically actually working on them at the moment anyways but I look at this like I mean. This is a dangerous area for humans to be in. It's kind of like I created the atomic bomb and now I've got to use it because I created it right. You know like what is this going to be used for and how how will this eventually the humans will scale up bio engineering violent bioengineering Skynet ex exactly we smile dyson artificial intelligence with consciousness trans humanism. I mean where do you WanNa go with it well. That's that's kind of you know exactly. Where do you WanNa go with everything. You said you know obviously we're running up on our our and this is the bitcoin our with Joe Blackburn. I'm your host. I see that Calloway Byrom Hiram what's going on man he asked who are you guys. I'm the host of BITCOIN radio. Were bickering lives. That's what Josh is by the way that's Josh tagline. He came up with me along with reading my books for army. He also comes up with all the things that I say all right. Josh Josh Josh Vegas Josh Donaldson. He is the executive producer for BITCOIN radio. There's obviously many people involved Ashley. Ashley was watching earlier Ashley's part Mouse Ball Team bitcoin radios and affiliate in a under the they've now spelt umbrella you know and obviously we have nothing but great awesome things that we have in store for everybody but back to your point Josh as as we wind down this hour you know I look at where we go and what humans are going to be really just be. They're going to be really really susceptible to being completely destroyed right now and not necessarily a violent action but right and government action which in turn can turn to violence but you know if you want if you got quantum computing and clearly you can't tell me that other that they haven't had this power for at least the year or two and they're just now coming out with the the I guess or information years. I'm not sure I'm sure Darpa gets everything I but who you know who knows no agreed and Eric said he asked me if I'd seen the chart I know ahead dropped down to nine K. and maybe even touch eighty eight hundred first second. Hopefully it's the the other way but I could see us going down to eighty two hundred bouncing by the way let me see now. You got me freak out which would see eric. Okay Eighty six kept. It kept going down a little bit so yeah but look. I'm okay with a drop down. I think eighty two healthy. I know that some people were talking about how this was. Those are really strong. You know we needed to hold resistance area but I see dipping down potentially to eighty two hundred bouncing from there. I'm really bullish though last up wow okay okay so yeah so now what are you. I mean what do you think is the primary cause of this right now. I think it's just you know when I look yet. When bitcoin goes up and down you know people are so worried about the day to day movements now. If you're a day trader obviously that's how you make your money. It's your livelihood you. You smoked on the day unless you were shorting well. I mean a day trader doesn't care which way he goes. He just looking for the charts and with action is going to be doing you know and so it's irrelevant what the price is it could be. It could be fifty dollars for all. He cares you know where she and then you know if it's the twenty five thousand dollars it's probably less it's that's probably less likely that he's going to be making as much money but it's still really relevant to to the whole. I'm GonNa Detection my dad any minute. We're down to eighty five dollars dollars. Get out get out now. Berry Berry the bitcoin into the floorboards. Oh Wow so eric said we actually hit eighty one seventy four and that was around. I actually eight hundred is my was my bottom and by heaven. I have a backup to eighty eight right now. That's good yeah. I was just looking. I was looking at the yeah. We're already at eighty eight hundred eighty. What a bounce a- that's healthy. That's a healthy balance apologies to all the people who sold and freaked out. I'm what were you were telling me about before. You're explaining to me the cloud the gym. Oko Yeah that guy. What's it called again each you explain it. What that is again. That's just predicts the the resistance and the support areas and based off of just what the actual cloud. Is You know the direction that's going going. It just gives some insight as an indicator. You Never WanNa base what you're doing of the indicators but it's just another indicator to use that helps you predict what you what you might potentially think bitcoin is going to do and what is the cloud telling you just. Just you know Gordon what what's so. Where's it at right now. I don't have the up I'm just looking at this. I mean I'm literally looking looking at bitcoin ticker dot. Co which has the worst chart on planet earth but it's just saved in my browser because it gives you up to the minute price but I mean I can look at it here a little bit later. Obviously that's a personal question. I have no problem like looking at it here shortly but no no no absolutely but I'm sure Shirley we cloud what happened was the cloud was here and now right through the cloud now now. If we were a conspiracy theory I would be because we just exposed. Google's quantum computing on the show live in that crash. BTC So maybe secretly secretly BTC is tethered to Google and NASA. 's Quantum computing program now. We're getting serious. I like it and you know based off of us. Exposing and helping expose information that's already been exposed clearly. Someone's paying attention and they're freaking out there readings out. They're going to steal my bitcoin resell. They're going to rename this the the Joe Blackburn science fiction our well Ashley. She did just say a second ago actually a second ago our ago when we first started it's the conspiracy our right. Tuesday Tuesday conspiracy hours conspiracy our we used to do that in my office Patrick. I don't know four. Am He's sleeping in Bali Patrick. I'm just joking at Patrick using sleep. Patrick used to we used to we used to have that there was a librarian my old office and we used to go in there for conspiracy. Tuesday's conspiracy theory Tuesdays and we would all go down the rabbit hole of what we've been studying lately absolutely man like yea where we're at right now in crypto. We're at Bitcoin. It's susceptible to every rumor everything that ever happens and I love talking. Conspiracies like I could do this. All Day and you have a lot of knowledge. Josh you soak up information better than anybody else. I know like I don't know where you find time to actually here like I can barely read headlines and I tend and I'm like one of those people like Osceola headline. Oh Man I believe it yet but but so also at the same time you respond to everyone you respond to comments and messages in your in all of your social media empire in the Joe Blackburn. CCT BITCOIN radio your one on one with everybody so when you're doing that I'm out doing research. I'm doing rnd personally and also because I'd like us to have relevant topics you know I'm demand and I want to make sure that we're having relevant guests. I'd like to get somebody on on to talk about blockchain and artificial intelligence. I mean there's there's a lot of there's a lot of exciting who who we got email the back there's a lot of exciting there's a lot of exciting things that are out there that are going on in the space and I'd love to make sure the community constantly you know. WHO DID THEY WANNA see us. Bring on the show because I definitely we're not people are paid guests. We're just looking at an innovative people that are that we want to have a good conversation with absolutely absolutely it's absolute fact I'm looking. I'm looking at the ticker on coin base right now and it is going between eighty seven eighty eight hundred all the way down to eighty six on take take take basis. It's absolutely insane right now. This is crazy as longtime slicing it like this and there's a lot of struggles in the bears and the Bulls right now and I mean eighty seven hundred eighty seven seven seventy five. I mean this is really volatile. it's very uncertain to actually. I don't WanNa say worried by any means. See how much is trading. I mean yeah as far as I'm just looking on coin based right now and you can see the volumes. I mean it's point. Seven two point eight. You know is coming down again. I'm not looking at the right chart so I can't give a great anticipation Asian of what the with you know it'd be cool is if if we could do a triple screen alike we are split into two and the third one we pull up the live sticks six. You know what I can do though I can't do this before we on that way we can watch it. Yeah there. We go oh Joe. I like it this it or I see Yup and this is Let me see what this means. I'm going to go. I'm either going to go Clark. Can't you and put my glasses on so I can read so all right so here. We are now. We're now. We're BITCOIN radio. I love it Eric Day. I'm looking at right now. I'm glad you told me to doll all because I had no idea we'd we bought them out of that low but obviously this is the chart. I was looking at you. Just can't allow you to interact very well but the just quickly the price bryce so when was the last time that we were this low or BTC. Was this low man. I guess it was I would've guessed I would guess if I'm going to guess without looking right now. I'm going to say like April. Eh No no no. We had a dip back. We went. We went to like ten thousand. We came back down to eight and then we went up to fourteen or what was thirteen thirteen yeah and it came back down and what I what I want June. What I want to say is that in your community knows this but anybody that's listening friends of mine. That aren't really in the community. You know you can wash away all the other ten years if you were following this space and you just bought in January February or March coach. You're still you're crushing. You're killing it. I mean what did he go down to thirty two and it was it was sitting at thirty five for like two and a half months. It's almost it was like March when started bounce back and then within within three more months it hit ten thirteen thousand. I mean that's I mean. It's a volatile yes. That's incredible. That's I mean. There's nothing out there facebook stock Microsoft Stock Apple Stock. There's nothing that this given the return like this. Has You just have to know what you're doing unless you want to law unless you want to be long on this and I'm not suggesting anyone to do that and you know I look back. Josh and I think about the people who bought in December twenty seventeen January twenty twenty eighteen January or February eighteen that time period with bitcoin did go from I mean remember. Thanksgiving that you're November twenty seventeen. It was like sixty five seven thousand. Maybe maybe he hit ten thousand that was right at the time that was the time I went heavy on Bitcoin Green gunsmoke affiliate. We've all we've all been there. We all have some friends that were like helping develop a bitcoin green and work on on that project and they're doing it. It's a movement we're going in and like Oh. We're not we just got renounced but absolutely you know I mean I've. I've got numerous similar scenarios that Bet I know people have been in and Josh. You're not alone in other words. I got a bunch of said. Did I one eighty. It's hard to be mad about that now and I also think. US has a green candles in front of it. At some point you know and I mean they haven't. They have a team team with a lot of money and a lot of power behind. I mean there's a lot of incredible people that work on the project. Yup Of course was the last thing they lost recently. It was like Bitcoin or I'm sorry USOC Asocial or something. It's their social platform. They just announced that it was coming out. I can't remember the name of it now but we'll see it's coming out this. I think this coming up summer and his Pierce turned Puerto Rico into the island of Dr Moreau. Yet if he has not been shared with but I know that he's Ah I I did see like coins era. It's AL satire obviously but they're like brock pierce running for Governor of Puerto Rico just hilarious anyways. Hey look. Let's wind this down. Josh I was GonNa say last thing I wanted to put out is if you bought a three thousand which I know it's not it's not easy to buy three thousand especially if you bought it in seventeen eighteen nine hundred thousand but if you did you know in you average down you effectively put yourself in a situation where you could you could be even here at this price around those price period but regardless. That's for another day another time. I hope everybody's had a great time with us. This is our first livestream. I hope you enjoyed the conversation Josh de Vegas. Where can people find yet adjusted. Vegas on but you could look for twitter. You never know what I'm GonNa talk about. Quantum mechanics God cryptocurrency. You could find me trolling people. I love love it. Yeah you can find me reading Joe's books. Tell me that test. Tesla didn't die at twenty seven Eighty-six Eighty-six Jeez as Louise. I was wrong about that. was that was honestly why. I know what you're talking about. It was misinformation that was placed. There was propaganda by Thomas Edison Edison Edison implanted it does it was the first fake news. He told you the Tesla died he he spread it and here. We are in twenty thousand nine. He's still believe it look. I'm holding strong. I'm wondering if this was the Mandela for me man. I'm just trying to figure out what the Heck I've been thinking. Maybe mine hasn't kicked in yet but that could be that could be it the Madala fact maybe he did die at twenty nine and then after Sern split the God particle. It's now eighty-six a maybe all fake news was true at one point who knows right you know hey we need trump to tweet that in that hilarious that would be crazy anyways all right bitcoin radio. Thanks again Josh for joining us this again. You can find them at Josh Vegas. He's on twitter. He's teaching me how to twitter and I'm on twitter. 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One and Done: Wiggling Wormnato

Happy Hour Gets Weird

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One and Done: Wiggling Wormnato

"Hi and welcome back friends in weirdos weirdos and friends didn't fuck the central ready what's is something different. The title of podcast. Oh right this is happy hour. It's hard. I'm cassie and i'm tiffany. And we are two friends that have drinks and talk about where chit on a podcast and thank you so much for joining us for happy hour. Yes that's my new thing. I'm going to try to say every time but apply. Forget every time because i'm just forgot last time so that's where we're i actually love that and i think it's perfect. This is a one and done episode. The dollar bear nights podcast house. Margarita served from an igloo ice chest into a plastic cup. Yes i love it. I love it. That's the visual. I want you to have stepping into this happy hour. You're in a sticky bar dimly lit. What's that smell who i'm home. Okay it could be the bathroom or could be the kitchen. Who knows could be the guy next. Stay away from him where you know it might seem like we're not painting a lovely picture of a one and done happy hour bar but it's actually the best place to go. I always have the best times when i'm an old smelly. Sticky dive bar in the middle of nowhere. You know sometimes you you wanna go wherever everybody knows your name. Okay enough funny business. This is this one and done is a little bit. It's not a little bit different but we're just changing it up. We are going to talk about current e bents current news stories There is one thing that i want to mention. And i feel like we being in the true true crime genre. I must mention kristin smart If you don't know you might have been living under a rock so we will inform you. Kristin smart was a nineteen year old student at cow. Poly san luis obispo. She went to a party was escorted home by a classmate or a person the last person to see her alive and then she disappeared twenty five years ago and just recently in the last few weeks. Paul florez who was the last person to see. Her alive has been charged with her murder along with his father. Reuben flora's who has been charged with accessory after the fact and this is such good news. This worm has been hiding in plain sight been living his life and according to the los angeles times pau floors killed and smart in dorm room during attempted rape. Da says so awful such a sad story it is. It is and this is where we need a culture shift because this is the tale as old as time. There is a girl. A boy makes an advance. The girl says no thank you. I'm not interested and girl is harmed or assaulted. It is horrific. it happens. It's common and it happens too often at it needs to stop. This shift needs to happen in this culture. It's just crazy so the police have been working for over two decades. On this case paul floors has always been one of the prime suspects they just did not ever find any physical evidence as far as Kristin smart's body so they really couldn't have any hard evidence to charge him on however the in two thousand and twenty they perform some the or they executed some search warrants. And then it seems as though. Oh and get this paul. Flores this fucking dirtbag has had several sexual assault allegations against him over the years so at least two that they know of. And it's like this guy is clearly a predator and really it's about goddamn time So as far as we know it seems as though paul floors is father. may be moved some evidence around they executed a search warrant in two thousand twenty and it seems that they moved kristin smart's remains after that that search warrant to another location and law enforcement hasn't been able to find her remains yet. I hope and hope that they find those remains. I hope that paul floors does the right thing and tells them we're her remains are so her family can can have their baby back. I hope so as well. And i hope that i'm just thinking of her family There's really nothing to say. It's just so awful. I just hope that justice. You know they get the justice that they're looking for i. Guess yeah so we just wanted to. I feel like we had to mention that is like such a. It's i've n. i feel like things like this. That happened more. And more as technology advances these old cases and as you know true crime podcasters or writers or or true crime. I don't wanna say fans but people who are interested in true crime sometimes. Get a bad Rap for being into true crime. 'cause it's dark how ever i do believe that. Some of these old cases would not have been reopened if it had not been for public interest. Yes and we talk. We've talked about this. Numerous times. Especially on a couple of our true crime episodes. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. So i agree with you. The still unsolved cases are it's important to talk about them. Yes it's important to talk about cases that have not been solved. It's important to talk about missing persons cases. It's important to talk about them. Because the more they talked about the more attention they get. The more pressure is put on police and investigators to solve the crimes. And that's really what everybody wants And i hope. I know there's been cases that have been Prosecuted without a body. And if this has to be the case then than soviet for kristin smart's family to get closure that they deserve. I could see the perpetrators of this crime using that as a bargaining chip to for self-preservation. Yeah i just oh anyway. So although frustrating and sad to talk about I really wanted to mention it because it is on the other side of that. It is good news that someone was finally arrested and charged. And i'm just looking forward to the trial also. Speaking of old cases scott peterson's death penalty conviction was turned so he is no longer on death. Row that's fine. He can just stay in prison river. Yeah so. I'm not sure. I didn't really look into that i. It was a little blurb in my brain but yet just The death penalty was just overturning. He's knowing death row. I don't know what his sentence was. Lessened to maybe life without parole. Which i'm totally fine with But that is another. What's happening in true crime. All right so our first news story comes from metro news in the uk and this was from april twenty fifth so apparently there is a lot of. Josh is a lot of men named josh. A lot of people named josh. That's the news. I already. I've known that i was in high school. So well what happ- what happened was josh swain. Twenty two is student from tucson. Arizona was on facebook one day and he noticed that a lot of people name josh his same name so he started messaging people. Who had the name josh on social media and what he did was he created this fight of the joshes so he chose a random location. A ended up being in lincoln nebraska. And he did a group message for everybody sent out the coordinates and said meet here on this date. This time. we are going to fight to see who the best josh is. Made the best josh win. Yes yes so. Yes so josh's flock to this day. It was on the twenty-first. I believe people really came. Hundreds of joshes showed up here. They were armed with pool noodles and they were here to do get out and they started off the competition to see who the best joshua's with rock paper scissors tournament. How did lincoln nebraska handled this sort of a violent battle. Royale in their community was in an open field. Thank you nebraska for just being a ninety nine percent open field man. That's a fast. Sql escalation from rock paper scissors to a pool noodle dual yes so this. The strangest part is the strangest part. Is that the guy who one's name is alan so we don't even know how we got in there okay. So these josh showed up and josh said the original josh the starter that the the one who started this all his heart to tell the story when they all are named i know quote we fight whoever wins gets to keep the name. Everyone else has to change their name in you ever year to prepare. Good luck so that like he didn't he was like a joke. Basically he didn't think and then everybody showed up with poodle newell's and they were all just going to duke it out with these poodle. Newell's paul knowles who poodle. Newell pool noodles oodles. How did they all know to bring a pool noodle or is that just such an is just such a josh thing. Maybe like all any josh would just think to bring a pool noodle i don't think i would have thought too broad a pool noodle but i'm not named josh. I'm i go by tiffany or steve. So it's kind of funny. Like did they put out a message like everybody. Bring a pool noodle or josh is just always travel with the pool. Noodle josh just always travel with pool noodles. Some people showed up spider man costume star wars costumes. People came with the joshes and were shorts. Like i'm with josh team. Josh beat josh. Go josh And it ended up that four. Old lincoln resident. Josh junior was deemed. The ultimate. Josh josh senior must be so proud yes yes and they dubbed him. The josh's dubbed him little josh and they presented him with a burger king paper crowned and a trophy and he was lifted up in the middle of the crowd of joshes and met with applause. The ultimate josh josh josh. Yeah an he attended. He actually josh senior intended the fight. The josh fight with his dad josh senior and they both said quote little. Josh will remember this for the rest of his life. It's amazing you know what it just goes to set like. I think this could be a case. Study that josh. Joshes are our people. I think it definitely proves that joshes are amazing. And if you have josh inner your life by them a pool noodle i mean if you ever need to get them a gift you know what to do. I love that and you know i love. That guy was like. I'm just doing something like on a lark like just josh inya as they say and then it turned into a real thing. Because josh is cool. Yeah that's amazing. What an amazing story. Yeah i thought that was a wonderful Story and i thought that it was Pretty cool that we were the first ones to break that to the world breaking news. Breaking news come here for all of the most important news stories. Get it here while you can't while it's hot okay. So the next story is from cnn. Seventy year old woman was riding with her daughter on interstate ninety five near port orange florida when a turtle smashed through the windshield hitting the elderly woman in the head. Gashing her forehead open They swerved off the road. Her daughter called nine and said quote. She's got so much blood coming out of her head but the daughter and the mom didn't intervene realized that it was a turtle until a bystander was like a is that a turtle and the daughter said an actual turtle So she went to the hospital. The woman's okay and the turtle survived to. They think what happened was the turtle was crossing the road. Hit by another car caused him to fly in the air. The wrong place wrong. Time flies through the window connects with that woman's forehead. I have to say that. I too have a connect with journalists because i heard the story. Oh and i cannot believe that this woman survived this because that turtle i mean i'm no scientist but that turtle was probably as printing. They're pretty aero dynamic. It was probably traveling at speeds upwards of fifty miles an hour it probably turtle shells are hard as fuck there. I used to date a ninja turtle. Marketing insane also like you. That's the unluckiest person. How does that even happen. And that is what her daughter said. My mom is the unluckiest person. I don't know how that happened. And she really. She really just say that. I get freaked out one. A grasshopper hits my windshield. And it's like one time. I did not have a turtle. Come through my windshield. But i did have a piece of styrofoam fly off a truck on the freeway and it wrapped itself up above my windshield and below my car and it was just flapping their blocking my view on the freeway. It was a very ace ventura moment. I kind of had a stick my head out the window to see whereas going. I went e with the steering wheel. That's me moving from side to side. Hoping that i could wiggle it off before i died in a fiery crash on on i eighty so that would be scary but not i don i actually. I don't know what's worse turtle. i guess turtles worse. It was more embarrassing to me than it was like if the other drivers looked over and saw this flat sheet of styrofoam stuck on my windshield. And i was had my head out the window like some fucking idiot trying to go anyways. Forgot about. That's gonna keep me up all right. Our next story comes from upi dot com. And that's u. i as in paul night. Uta is in tom. Which chance for u. p. i. upi Okay forty six thousand in cash found under the floorboards of massachusetts home. Nice april twenty second. A massachusetts family hired a professional treasure hunter to investigate decades old rumors of money hidden in their home. He found forty six thousand dollars under the floorboards. And this is written by ben. Hooper so keith Willy of connecticut said he was contracted by them at western massachusetts family. You told him about a rumor of a large sum of money that was concealed in their home in the nineteen fifties. The families there this rumor. I don't wanna weird rumor. Was it the person who lived there before. Did it say what they did I think it ended up being his grandfather. But it's like find the money yourself if it's in the house it's not that hard to tear apart a house that's true. It's a finite amount of space. They hired somebody to check out a rumor. That is like the one place where you could actually do the work. You're aids literally x marks. The spots you are there they know and just not. they didn't hurt anybody. They hired a fucking treasure hunter. Professional treasure hunter treasure. Hunter guys like usually what. I'm hunting treasurer. I have a long journey. I had this big adventure. It's in this house guy somewhere. Find an etiquette. Yes we just ended a full year. We weren't even allowed to leave this house. Yes we could have done it then but no. We're doing it now so listen. The family had previously hired carpenters to look inside the walls and underneath the floors and they didn't find it fucking willie was like i got this. He brought his metal detector into the family's attic and it signal. there was underneath the floor. You can literally get a metal detector at walmart people. I have one of my garage. I also have a metal detector. Let's bring them together. Okay off a great way for us to make new friends l. Forget the fanny pack for the treasure. You find god. We're the next pictures we posted. Resolves have to be a fanny pack. The medal metal detectors and metal detectors no but seriously do have a metal detector. And i love it. I'm upset i really do to my dad had it and i said bring it over. I'm gonna use it rush. I know yes so a. He found a something his metal detector detected or signaled and they ripped up the floorboards in the attic and they discovered a metal box hidden under the floor and it had forty six thousand dollars in cash wrapped original bank straps dating to the nineteen fifties. That's pretty cool. I wonder what kind of business the grandfather was in where he had to hide his money. I know exactly exotic dancer. I say yes. Yes yes Okay our next story comes from. Upi is well written written by. Ben hooper Ban is on a roll with these stories. So man bowls a perfect game with a ball containing his father's ashes yahtzee yes so it man paid tribute to his deceased father. I bowling a perfect three hundred game using a ball that contains some of his dad's ashes so at first i thought okay is it. His dad's ashes. Or is it john hinkle which is his name. Who bolt this game. Did he get help from his dad. Turns out he's an nc double a bowling champion from western illinois university. So it's probably john hagel but he probably felt little extra special that his dad's ashes were in the ball. That's pretty sweet. It is sweet. Because his dad john hagel senior introduced him and his brother to the sport of bowling when they were very young and kinkel said his two-handed bowling technique means he only allowed to finger holes in his also. He had the thumb hole on his ball filled with some of his father's ashes. After the older hinkle died in two sixteen. I was talking to my brother and i told him. Hey i'm shooting a three hundred with this ball and joe said do it so as other brothers said do it and it was just kind of Really sweet sentimental kind of warmhearted feeling. He said quote. I had tears in my eyes and the eleventh and twelve frames. I couldn't tell you where the last ball. And i had so many tears throwing it. Oh isn't that wonderful. That is wonderful. I love that. And what a special thing to do just in memory of your dad. Who showed you this game that ended up being such a big part of your life totally and he said it's special because dad shot a to ninety eight to ninety nine. He never quite made it to three hundred. I had goosebumps chills. He was their dad. Totally made it to three hundred. Eighty two three hundred. I what a great story. I thought that was pretty cool. Very cool and now we have a from. Upi is killing it. Ben hooper my goodness three three. That's a hat trick. My friends police respond to report home intruder so april twentieth police responding to a report of an intruder at a california home broke down the front door and storm the house to find. This suspected burglar was actually the owners robot vacuum so roomba strikes again. This is happened more than once. Roomba you're kind of minutes. She she is the menace she is. I don't trust her. She's she's like a fucking spy for the robots. She really is okay so the woman said she and her two year old daughter were sleeping in their no thomas home. This is a little bit close to home Yeah this is very close to him when she was awakened by the sound that she thought was an intruder. Say about one. Am here over my mediation music. Oh meditation she's not mediation do do they play. Do they play. They should play meditation music in mediation because it can get kind of dance in there and about one. Am i hear over my meditation. Music boom boom boom. She text her friends to tell them there was a burglar in her home Okay are her friends. Batman superman and if not then wrong person to contract up a red phone in behind a bookshelf she put out the bat signal and she said i was like. Hey someone is in my house and they were like hey call. The police and i was like oh yeah. Call the police okay. Just not surprised. She thought rubel was burglar. Okay that's a great quote hard hitting facts okay. So the police discovered the suspect at intruder was families. Robot vacuum quote my son turn on the vacuum cleaner because he didn't want to do chores before he left for the weekend he hadn't used we had uses vacuum and almost two years. It went down the stairs. Okay so that makes sense if they have accused their home in two years. Now they probably don't use the roomba. I think what she's saying vacuumed at the regular vacuum. Well all that bit on ebay. Someone is going to buy that. Yeah so anyways we all kinda no. North carolina couple ended up in the same situation. They thought it was an intruder. It turned out to be roomba. So this is what an epidemic happening. Roomba is you know. This is i arising the world. This is how it starts. It's insidious bot. I don't know if you've seen it. Will smith fantastic movie. It starts with the little things like robot vacuums. I've seen it was just on the other day. Just watched it. Smith is pretty hot in that movie. Half robot pretty hot is he. Oh he is half robot. That's right now the robotic arm. And that's why he doesn't like the story. That's right that's right. Yeah yeah yeah. Because the robot saved him and ought to child. It's a good movie. that's right does it. Doesn't make me like robots more though. No i actually flipped roomba off last time. I saw it when she wasn't looking of course. I'm scared of her. Don't let her see you. I'm not will fuck you. She will vacuum over poop and then just spread that she'll your house first of all. Why do i am poop on my floor. That's the bigger problem that roomba the bear. That's right that's right as the saying goes does a bear shit and kassy's house fucker. We talking okay. We're done we're hanging on by a thread here so lie this one comes from life. Science dot com. It's written by many weissberger and this was this is titled bizarre. Worm tornado in new jersey has science baffled. No yes yes yes yes ono no so. Spring often bring scores of earthworms to the surface where they ride on top of the soil and sidewalks. We've all seen that worms. When it rains we know. I tried to save him. If i were on a sidewalk i tried to toss it back to the earlier or fiemme too. I actually love earthworms. that's i think. Why so offended by the earthworm jerky it's like. They're just worms trying to live their best life in the earth. What are you doing training. Cook them and eat them. Jane goodall is coming out with a plant based cookbook his diet. That is such a good idea. I actually entrance. I'm i'm not going fully plant. Based but i am trying to transition to a more plant based diet same. I'll never go fully plant based. But i think more plant-based is always a good idea. Okay so tell me about this worm nato. That's actually what they call it. In this article's a worm nato that's a scientific term for it. I knew that. Because i am a scientist. It's okay so a resident of hoboken new jersey was out for a morning walk in a park near the hudson river on march twenty fifth when she spotted hundreds of worms spread along the walkway. The woman who asked not to be identified which. I think we just identified her. No it did not. It did not having ron burgundy for a second woman named mary. Mary who has to not be identified and first of all i discovered a war. Nato please yes give me the credit. Thank you very much. Why was she afraid of being identified. Maybe a walker shane. Oh i bet it was. Yes i that's the only reason not identified and a worm story i if i was caught i witnessed a worm nato on one of my walk ashamed. I would also not want to be identified panties in your purse shoes in your hand. Every worker carl's junior at six in the morning could identify me a way home from my walker. Shame because that was where. I got my breakfast. Okay a ho gets hungry. Did you ever see superstar alone in the dining room crying into my french fries. That's just the picture Asking for more ranch trying to not make the person at comfortable with years is okay. It's fine oh god. Did you ever see a work. Nato on your walks of sh on a walker shame. No and i'm pissed. I'm actually really pissed that he didn't that's rude. Okay so a number of worms have formed a cyclone like shaped spiral where the edge of the grass met the concrete. The woman took photographs and sent them to a member of the hoboken city council. Because that's the first thing. I think city council's going to fuck it. Know what to do about these worms. That is such a random. Maybe wait a minute. Maybe the city council person was where she was before the warming. James okay all right. Maybe putting this all together web sleuths so well then. The city council member shared it to facebook. Obviously of course that's the most scientific place on the internet. We all know that it's fact based science on facebook. Everybody knows that smartest best people hang. Yes sir Only pure science scientists and science enthusiast sharon reed and believe stories on facebook. that is known scientific fact So she wrote she captioned the picture. Clearly worms come out after it rains but this is something i've never seen so when the photographer saw the worm tornado worm nato. They weren't actively spiraling although individual worms are still wriggling in place. There was no pipes nearby and Though the most of the worms are spread out in a big squirrel. There are plenty of rooms extending beyond the outer curve of the warm nato. They clung to the wall of a nearby building and dribble down the curb and into the road and there is a picture so yeah it and we will share the picture on our social media because it is very bizarre looking while it's tempting to imagine that the worms were lying themselves in a small in preparation of the worm moon to superman that illuminated the night sky just a few days later at the end of march march. Twenty eight was the worm. Moon the super moon. It's unlikely this spiral was a lunar ceremony. Which would be nice to think that they were paying tribute to the worm moon. You know yeah So what's it all about Breathe through their skin so when heavy or persistent rains saturates soil with water. The worms must tunnel to the surface or risk drowning earthworms are typically solitary but they sometimes form herds when they're on the surface were an heard worms collecting groups and communicate with each other about where to move worms Form clusters and influence each other to select a common direction during their migration and they did so using touch rather than chemical signals. This collaborative behavior could help them survive environmental threats. Such as flooding arid soil could use a defense strategy. Bob against predators like fucking guy on amazon. Who selling jerky imagine. If he went out to collect his harvest of worms and there was a worm nato he would think twice about trying to dehydrate. those little worms. I don't think he would. I think he'd be like score. There's a lot of fucking worms here so the worms were just on the ground. It wasn't an actual a nato of were like a tornado it was like a spiral on the ground. The ground okay. I. that's fascinating. But i will say i was expecting a shark. Nato situation but full of words and i was expecting somebody to walk through a tornado of worms and just get smacked with like worms. Just were were weren't worms like if you walk through a car wash oil that. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. I think this woman might. I don't know any little disappointed. In the verbiage i feel like as misleading i. I don't know it was more like more. Like a crop circle of worms. I would have if they would have said that. That would have made more sense. Yes so and basically the scientists don't know why the worms did this so it's an unsolved mystery. I'm gonna send this into unsolved mysteries. Please send this in. I'm your girl. I'll take care of it. Attributed to our podcast be like these are the kind of unsolved mysteries that we need lifetime Yeah that would be great. And that was a less current story that i found and i just. It's a good note to end this episode on just a bunch of worms swirling on the ground freaking people out new in new jersey. That's the note that you wanted to end our podcast on the worm arms are weird. Now that i think about. I think maybe the bowling story would have been a better ending but Yeah i mean. I like the worm story though to end it on. I like ending it on. Just weird. Ambiguous slimy mentally today. So hope you enjoy our Cutting edge hot off the press current news one and done episode and thinking you again so much for listening and we will be back next week with another main episode per huge. You can check olive bar socials for our Drink pictures and recipes and if you have any ideas for one and done episode or you have any bizarre news stories that we might have missed him our way if you have an idea for main episode paranormal true crime shrew crime adjacent nonviolent. True crime ghosts. That's paranormal i suppose Then also email us at happy hour gets weird at gmail dot com. We always love getting your emails. We do. We do getting your emails and we really appreciate. We got a couple of new reviews and they really help out. Small pods like ours. Rates reviews subscribes. And telling your friend about us always helps yes. It does so thank you so much on that note. love yourself. Lock your doors and light some sage to keep the worms away watch out for that. Orb nato slap at he slept. Don't set your. Don't set your room opt to go off at one. Am and how out. I pictured and being like twelve what they say. It said it went. He went away for the weekend. Maybe he was going to his dad. Oh yeah maybe. He's going to grandma's house or his dad's or something. I don't kick your twelve year out. They're not prepared to live with. He probably just like taped duster to one side of the roomba taped cleaning spray to one side. And you just do my chores. Hey going on. He probably trained the cat with treats to turn room on to hit the ruma button if cats and robots up we are fucked. We're dead humans will cease to exist. All right okay. Good i i.

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Bending Without Breaking | Featuring Josh Schneider

Ignition Point

18:46 min | 1 year ago

Bending Without Breaking | Featuring Josh Schneider

"Welcome to ignition point the show. That's here to help you take the leap deep honcker. You're weak and achieve your goals if you're looking to amplify your mindset with fresh perspective and spark mark momentum. You're in the right place. Hey what's going on. I'm stephen even miller. Thanks for joining me for another ignition point. The show where we cover an influential speech or feature guest keynote to get you fired up and ready to take on another winning week. The other day i was was reading an article in forbes by selene dacosta the talked about our global hustle culture and why we need to stop idolizing it just off that title. I was interested mistake because as you know i'm all about jumping into the deep end and grinding it out. It's almost a spiritual experience at this point but to say it's idolized. Maybe a stretch anyway. I found that one point from the article stood out it was a reminder. We all need from time to time. Selene wrote that society zaidi has effectively committed to the get up eat work eat work eat net flicks sleep and repeat schedule that is synonymous with getting caught up in the hustle her point point is that if we get into this hustling cycle where all were working for is that feeling of man. I really got shit done. Today we end up sacrificing using self care and we eventually burn out. It's a great point but it returns to something. I discussed earlier. In the season. You can't really hustle without having the big picture and view you need to take inventory with yourself and ask what am i actually working towards. What is the big ambition. I'd even argue that hustle without attached ambition isn't even hustle at all getting fulfillment from the daily directive of get more shit it done is a silent killer because you won't know that you're getting burnt out. You'll only ever know when you are burnt out you or someone you know is probably dealing with that type of disengagement right now and it's for that reason i wanted to bring on a guest who knows the cost of burnout in how to overcome it so on today's episode i'm excited to welcome josh schneider josh coaches organizations and individuals to increase performance energy and happiness his book generation. The next level calls on the next generation of leaders to play to their strengths and do work that matters to increase the impact of his work. Josh founded the millennial end employee engagement an institute to curate and develop research to help unlock people's performance and encourage businesses to transfer leaderships. The next generation josh truly understands understands the future of the workforce and how to engage it. He's been featured on under thirty c._e._o. And the c._e._o. Our bringing a passion that is contagious this an energy that's undeniable and innovative ideas that work in our evolving business climate so let's get after it here to give you. The tools needed to beat burn out. This is josh schneider so what is burnout look like and how do we avoid. How do we overcome the obstacles burnout to me looks like when the history of our past is brighter than the vision of our future or said another way burnout is when we are applying in effort and the return that we are getting back does not meet our expectations meaning we go to the gym. I expect respect my body to look a certain way. I start to eat differently. I expect my body to respond and when it does i'm excited and i will continue to put that effort in but right. If i go to school to get a degree and i keep struggling to finish the classes that i need to or if i'm trying to work to put myself through a situation or start out of business and it's not working out for me. That's when i start to break down that we start to experience burnout. How how do we structure ourselves in such a way that we can avoid the burnout burnout has that one side where the return return is less than our africa burnout also has another side in its in being out of alignment. I once had a mentor say to me. Josh you'll never have any success in in your assignment until you are i in alignment but how is it that we can find a way to persevere. How's it that we can find a way hey to stay on the track and i think that there's a couple of solutions or ideas that over the years i have you've been able to learn and see work for me and other high performers that i've joined on this journey to getting what it is that you want to accomplish seeing who you can become an i. I is this to find a way to stack momentum outside of the main effort so for example. You're trying to start a business your whoring whoring yourself into that same thing if you have a new role restart with a new company you are pouring yourself into that trying to learn what you don't know trying to figure out what we don't know and and all of a sudden six months twelve eighteen months go by and we wake up and we we feel tired. We feel disengaged. We feel frustrated with the process either either. Your business isn't where you want it to be or school is taking longer than you thought it should and you have this other thing so when you're frustrated you can get another return turn. He can look around and say but you know what this is also happening for me and a lot of times. It's all the spark. We need to get back on track because time is gonna pass and this is not hedging your bets. This is not saying well. The thing that i want is not the thing that i'm going after but it's creating alternative source of momentum for you. Another thing is to do the unusual one of the reasons so many people burn out as their heads down doing one thing over and over and over and i feel like you read any article about it and i'll say go to fiji for ten days. That's fantastic if you can spend the fifteen to twenty thousand to go to fiji for ten days ace but part of burnout boreham it's repetition human nature a craves excitement craves change in so we're gonna find away to be resilient. Find a way to be persistent in grind through whatever it is that we're going after without burning out it could come down to being as simple as trying any restaurant toront- that's out of the norm now i i've come to appreciate that. Certain routines in patterns are healthy and are necessary but when we're saying how do i beat wait. How do i not quit. We have to find a way to do something unusual. We need to let our brain within a new experience. Burnout happens when repeatable patterns in our lives become louder than what we believe. We are fighting for burnout never just happens. It's something that's slowly working. Its way into our life. I think sometimes on our journey journey to getting what it is that we want. We have a value that is important to us that becomes violated in if i were to sit down with you and in and say okay what are the top five values to you. We would all have a different list different experience. I woke up one day. Actually was the middle of a day and feeling very frustrated. My business had never been in a better position it here. I was frustrated and then it dawned on me. My client work had become a source of constriction of constraint on my life. When i feel like i have freedom. I feel like i can endure anything. I feel like that freedom is taken away from me. The questions nations start to circulate in my mind. Why am i doing this. Why am i going after this. Why am i trying to achieve something. You begin to doubt what's in your mind. You begin to doubt that the thing that you once also clearly was even worthwhile. No no i didn't fire all my clients and i didn't say like screw this. I'm i'm outta here. You know what i began to do was to tell myself that i have freedom. I started to scan my days and look for places in times in ways that i i did have freedom where i could flex that freedom are printed out some signs around me. They said i have freedom. I am free and i am choosing this journey because i i i am the reason i'm in this position is because i'm choosing it and it's okay to bend. It's okay to feel the pressure of a situation but we don't break and that's the number one piece of how we avoid the burnout. If we're not willing to see that we are bending if we're not willing doing knowledge that the pressure is on the heat is on that this does not feel like how i wanted to feel then we avoid the ability to change in the process. We avoid the ability to switch things up. We avoid the ability to say which value is being violated but you've got to find find a way to build the inner resilience to be saying to yourself. It's o k to bend. It's okay to feel the pressure. It's okay to to be hunter attack but i will not break a won't let myself get to that point so some questions that we can ask ourselves when we're in that situation of of bending when we're feeling like the pressure is on we can say since i can imagine this can. I actually believe that it's possible astle for me. Another question we can say is do i have the capacity to overcome whatever obstacles of face because the route what is we don't know what kind of obstacles are going to face but if we tell ourselves i have the capacity to overcome. We can do it in the last question. We need need to ask ourselves as am. I clear that the weight of discipline is ounces while the weight of regret is tons see bernau. Oh happens in the margins. We don't just wake up one day and we made one decision. It was one decision after another after another and if we could attack the margin the margin of our time to find ways to rebuild ourselves to stack that momentum outside of our main achievement if we can just find a way find the time to do the unusual to switch up the pattern to bring excitement dopamine serotonin oxytocin into our system if we can make sure that our major values are not being violated. We can do it my friends. I believe that each and every one of us has this ability to achieve the desires that are in our heart in in our mind and if we don't quit if we can persevere fear if we can develop the tenacity to see things through we avoid the berno in if we're constantly asking ourselves those questions russians in the long game we will win. I love the way josh josh applies such high voltage this topic especially when it's so much more than just a feeling of exhaustion burn out is a feeling of perpetual fatigue and surpassing burnout when you're in the thick of it is not easy. Frankly burnout is just one consequence of how busy we are and while i talk a lot on this show about being all in showing the attitude of hustle burnout is a reality we all have to deal with at some point in our lives and there is no common cure for it the way we overcome overcome. It has to be a personalized solution in i'm not disputing josh not even for a second perseverance stacking momentum and being in alignment with our values. A us are all absolutely essential to winning the war on burnout. I just believe when we burn out. We have to identify the source of our burn out and then begin to recondition condition are thinking but that's really hard to do. The cause of our burnout is often so close to our faces that we can't really see what's causing it. We can be blind to the source because we grow a sense of familiarity in our environment consider this story a gentleman is walking through an elephant camp and he noticed that the elephants weren't being kept in cages all that kept them from escaping was a small piece of rope tied to one of their legs as that man gazed upon on the elephants he was confused as to why the elephants just wouldn't break the rope and escape the camp. It would have been easily done but instead. They didn't try to at all all wanting to know the answer. He asked a trainer why the elephants never tried to escape. The trainer replied when they're young. We use the same size roped. Hold them as they grow up. They believe it can still hold them. The moral of the story is the longer in an environment. The more your vision can be obscured word and the more burnt out you can become you have to continue to believe that what you're doing has purpose and while you're doing it is valuable believing you can succeed. Zied is arguably the most important step toward achieving your goals so if you're too familiar in your environment. You can't quite tell why you're burnt out. That's where you need you to start. Where does your burn out come from. This is the multiple choice part of the show your options include a it's personal burnout that is commonly associated with negative self-talk caused by perfectionism and self critical tendencies be it's interpersonal relationship based fatigue like straining the relationships you have with authority figures in your life or your superiors and see its organizational exhaustion jin linked to a mismatch in values between you and the group or groups you belong to once you figure out where it stems from you're able to make changes and and modify the factors that are burning you out to me that all begins by shaking things up just like josh had mentioned you've gotta make some little tweaks and changes that can make the familiar environment a little less comfortable and familiar. Try creating a new daily ritual to remove yourself from whatever it is. That's been burning you out carve about a fifteen minute break and go for a walk at fifteen minutes of reading into your schedule finds something to do that. Affords the time to recharge and break the pattern. I've said it on prior episodes. I'm not one for this end lifestyle. Personally i go to the gym to recharge but it's going to help you to meditate or do yoga then then that's what you need to do. You just need to find a way to have your mind actively engaged but one or more steps removed from the cause of your exhaustion austin from this point you know what's causing the burnout and you've got a new coping strategy that will help you to recharge the last thing i'd recommend is reprioritising highs in your daily activities again not so easy but what you need to do is look at all the things you're doing on a daily basis. Itemize them and for each task on your list. Ask yourself if they contribute toward the ambitions or dreams. You're working to fulfil. What is the big picture is the juice. I really worth the squeeze is that part of your daily. Grind really contributing to your end goal former navy seal. David goggin said when your mind mind is telling you that you're done. You're exhausted that you cannot possibly go any further. You're only forty percent done. So how fired up are you about the end goal. Is it worth going the extra sixty percent of the way it needs to be if a daily task on your our list or even the entire list doesn't register as a priority for achieving your ambition then you need to start prioritizing different tasks it will push toward achieving it. Hopefully you're not currently dealing with burnout and you can be mindful of the advice. Josh gave for resisting it. You need to be able to persevere. You need to create alternate sources momentum in your life and you have to align your work with your priorities. You've got to have these strategies on lockdown. If you ever feel burnout burnout creeping into your life but if you are presently dealing with burnout you can overcome it. You can rise up and out from underneath the weight of burnout by first figuring out where it comes from then creating a daily ritual that will help you recharge and finally reprioritising your agenda from my point of view. Giving up is a nuclear option if you quit. There is no turning back. I believe you can find joy in anything you do and you can regain control. Even when you feel like burnout has all the power over you don't ever forget this. Burnout is a temporary problem and you can't beat it so don't ever choose a permanent solution for temporary problem. I'd like to thank josh schneider for taking time to contribute to this week. Show if you're interested in learning more about josh or want to get in touch you can visit josh schneider dot com. That's josh j. o. S. h. schneider s. c. h. n. e. i d. e. R. dot com as special gift for fans of the show. Josh's made his book five days to your best work yet available for free as downloadable e book. It's a great read for anyone looking for a fresh approach to making their work better or more effective to claim your free copy head over to employ brain dot com to download yours today if you'd like easy access to all of josh's coaching resources and ways to connect with him. Please check out all of his links featured in this episode. Show notes decisively dot com backslash ignition point ignition point is all about making a positive impact so please share the show with so many think it would help your feedback helps ignition point to keep keep moving forward so send me an email to stephen at decisively dot com or writer of you for the show on apple podcast to let me know what you think the next time you think about quitting thing focus on why you started then stay motivated and keep moving forward. If you put in the hard work right now one day you could be the one motivating the world with your story. I'll look forward to speaking with you next time on another ignition point now get on out there and win the week.

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EP 26 - BROTHERS with Josh Hart & Matt Hillman (Hosts of LightHarted Podcast)

LightHarted Podcast with Josh Hart

1:38:04 hr | 1 year ago

EP 26 - BROTHERS with Josh Hart & Matt Hillman (Hosts of LightHarted Podcast)

"Aw I'm not that type of doing score hundred percent. I need to face the call this one dangerous. Welcome everybody to another episode lighthearted podcast lighthearted podcast ask another podcast GONNA have gamers. Athletes GonNa have businessmen moments. I would say tangible moments. That probably was really impact impact fooling child and nobody ever talked about it. Like I never said you know light hearted. You know what's going on everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the light-hearted podcast. This is your co host Matt Hillman without without my other co host Josh heart unfortunately Our schedules were not able to light. Up For this intro. So I'm going to be doing a solo however I'm GonNa keep it short and sweet and the the reason I'm going to do that is because we don't have a guest this episode We had a lot of people reach out to us on instagram twitter. Whatever saying you know we love the interviews we love? I guess you know you guys have amazing guests but we do. We want to know more about you so you know we decided we would do one episode where we just pretty much interview. One another I think this is actually our longest episode yet. But we really just talk for about an hour and a half about our lives and our upbringings at our careers career and you know I think that that kind of speaks for itself so you know no sense and doing a super long intro But you know here for a couple of life life updates dates first things first. My birthday was yesterday Actually by the time this episode comes out in two days ago so December. Second thank you. Yes yes you guys can say if you want turn twenty six bittersweet feeling definitely feel like I'm getting old but at the same time You know excited about how the first twenty-six God and you know hopefully the the next go go better or just as good if not better But you know that's that's been good A Miami Right now actually for Art Basel which for those of you don't know it's a It's a week long sort like art festival. That happens in Miami every year But it's like if they take over the entire city so it's not just like one festival. It's like a bunch of different little ones and galleries as an artists come from all over the world. And they're a bunch of parties and brand activation and She's a really really cool. Time to be in Miami One of our clients is doing a really cool activation. So that's what brings me and my team down here so I'm down here for the week working from here and then I'm GONNA be back to La On Saturday so I've been traveling quite a bit. I was in. I was in Dallas Last week and then from there I went to New Orleans to see the Pelicans game and then from there I went to Philly for Thanksgiving. And then from there I went to DC to see some friends and then back to Philly to celebrate my birthday with my family and now down to Miami yes I'm definitely Definitely exhausted I don't know if you guys can hear it in my voice or not but I'm definitely Getting over a little a little cold I definitely ran myself into the ground. A little bit but But now all is well Turning what other life updates. We have I had a there was a forbes article article that came out about Cutting so my my company Thing is about two weeks ago but That was incredible for us. We we work. You know we've worked tirelessly asleep bill this this company and It's it's it's a funny thing being marketing agency because you your job is to market other people and other companies and often times when you do that so much it can be hard to forget. It's hard to remember to market yourself because we spent so much time helping other people build their brands. So so for that reason you know article talking about us and what we do was was huge and Shout out to Chris Chris Dodd's and who Who wrote that piece incredible you made us? You may sound way cooler than we actually are and for that'll be forever grateful But that was. That was a big moment. I as a kid I like Mike will not maybe not as a kid but as a young adult who is very interested in the business world being in Forbes always a huge goal of mine And so so to see you know our company there Was Pretty Special. I Remember Myself Shaun. Marsh on a Devon started in Shawn's apartment it you know damn near two years ago and to so to see our picture and our name on Forbes met Mental Lot But anyway enough about about that when we talk about all this In that episode. So I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not even going to really do a heart to heart this episode because the whole episodes just just full of Josh nine asking each other questions But I do want to announce our winter shout out to our sponsor Venedetto For those of you. That are new here. We give away a thousand dollars every week to a lucky winner. All you have to do is follow. Follow light hearted on social media and then add light hearted podcasts. As a friend van mo a you'll automatically be qualified to enter and that's it we give away a thousand dollars every week. It's pretty simple so this week's winner is Paris wise. Uh of course the one week we get like an easy name to pronounce. Josh isn't isn't here for those of you that listen we cover week. You know. That Josh can't isn't great at pronouncing people's names and he messes it up ten ten times out of ten however more after the not. We're getting very difficult names. And I don't I don't blame because it is hard to pronounce. But this was an easy one and he wasn't here for it so Paris wise. Shoutout to you you will be getting a van Mo- shortly But yeah I mean like I said that's really on my end. I WANNA keep it short because this episode so long I really really hope you guys enjoy it Like I said You you know we. We love interviewing other people. We love telling other people's stories but We just had a bunch of people asking us more about ours and we tried. We tried to do it a little bit at the beginning of every episode sued for like ten to fifteen minutes. Just so you guys know what's going on in our lives but You know we we just wanted to take it a step further and a really go all the way back and and think about our lives at the same way that we think about our guests how we got to where we are and what was important to us and so on and so forth so You know let us know if you love it. Let us know if you hate did it but you know hopefully you guys You guys listen and if you make it all the way through this you're a real one 'cause I this is I think it was almost our forty five. I'm not mistaken but Yeah hopefully hopefully keep you guys engaged. And congratulations again to Paris. Wise guys we're giving away money through the end of two thousand nineteen so it's not too late eight to enter. All you have to do is add lighthearted podcast as a friend and We'll take it from there so appreciate you guys tuning in and without further ado. This is the Josh Heart and Matt Helm episode of the light-hearted podcast. God look to another episode of lighthearted. PODCASTS has presented by then Mo I am. Your host. Josh are my co host brother and well newly The newly your birthday was just sexy way to say. Yeah they But I just gave of a fresh twenty six birthday so happy birthday again and that Sagittarius season exactly. So how are you. I'm the birthday was great just Actually just got back from dinner with Fam- baggies hanging out with them headed down to To Miami Tamar tomorrow so I was good. It was good I got to spend it with family which one about it any other way so where was done dinner and what you get man. You put me out there like that because I know you know the answer to both of those questions but I'll answer anyway We went to a restaurant. A beautiful restaurant called barklay prime crime. I had the ten ounce eight five Japanese wag. You New York Strip and truffle. Mac can cheese and Broccoli and Seafood Tower and someone very special in my life sent over a warm chocolate chip cookie with vanilla ice cream from afar. You you know you are Yeah that was. That was my birthday dinner. Khanna Automatic Co really wanted us I didn't realize you got there. I thought about it. I didn't really know for sure until Chose him into bisque. Nath sent a bottle of wine on. Now you're good we actually We actually brought one just paid the corks fee we got the Shoot shoot what was it. Called Croydon. Deliberate was one of the wine access. Wines it was the what the white one with the with. The the Red Cross on it I think it's a Bordeaux Yup good really good well with the with the stake. I was the first episode. We've had we've had no guest. Also a lot of listeners. Have mentioned about having a an extended or a whole episode just about met in my so's relationship and Kind of how. Our careers intersect intersect and Just kind of like the grind of of everything I was. We have guests on. You know just about every week and you guys listen to their stories news and listen to the grind and etc and you know and it's been amazing so far but Now we saw someone who listeners Kinda wanted a AH episode of just kind of our dialogue is talking about our own grinds and our own struggles and things we had to get through and I thought it would be really liqueur kind of do that just because you know. Obviously we're to host of the lighthearted podcast presented by Ben Mo- Home and obviously you guys always Our hear stories from our childhood in you know those kind of things. But you don't really we know you know the full story of note of our lives and kind of how we got here so I thought it would be really cool to be both. That would be really cool to kind of have a episode about our grind. Yeah I mean we You know we try and do like fifteen to twenty minutes intro. Every episode before the guest comes on on audio platforms. Just for you guys to hear hear about what's going on in our lives while we're up to just try and keep it current trying you know not make it so every single Ayodeji just it's just an interview So this is just a just kind of an extension of that of how can we. How can we sort of show more ourselves to you guys and Answer the questions that you guys want want to hear about US and You know like you said we tell a lot of other people's stories so I think it's only right that we we talk talk a little bit more about about us and where we came from in you know. Ask some of the questions that were always asking our guests. I'm personally very excited to hear. Hear you answer the light-hearted ten personally. I feel like you're hard ten is gonNA. It'd be wild that one. Yeah but Yeah I think I think it's a as we round out twenty nineteen. I think it's a good time to do that. We both had eventful years and You know I'm excited. You know we're both from you. Know from Maryland Book Magaz- kind of talk about one year bring. Obviously I know your upbringing fairly well but the listeners. Don't so kind of talk about you bringing uh-huh no the fame and everything else okay. grew up in in Maryland. Along with you. We didn't know each other really but we grew up playing against each other Probably better better a UTAN. I paid for like the the trash ones. You got the last laugh if I was. I was early bloomer. I was twelve years old with a size twelve shoe and like six feet which is why I have all the crazy like old shoes. And I like the bait kind apes and stuff. I could barely wear them like sixty fourteen years ago But now group in Maryland Both luckily Komo was super blessed to have both parents around Younger brother named Charlie who am seven and a half years older. Who is the brother as well? was always always really really into basketball like very much so I kind of put all my chips into basketball really early on and Was Pretty intense about it. From the time I was in like the fifth or sixth grade was like working with trainers around the clock and playing like competitive. AAU and you know would go work out at like at like six. AM on Saturday mornings mornings at Montrose Christian for those guys that don't know or who might not be from the DC area. Those were like the top basketball programs So really from early age I put put a lot of a lot of time into basketball and really like had a lot of division one aspirations and and obviously professional aspirations also was pretty good was nationally ranked in middle school Got Invited all those like all American Camps Athena. I don't know if you remember the fee nom camp and like the the which was in San Diego and there was like a Nike Junior all American. Ken which was that. Who Magic in Virginia? And then there was a Fab- frosh a freshman all American Cam got to that by those while it's funny because we spent we talk on these episodes about. Oh you know you ever look at those rankings and look about look at everybody. Body was not who but anymore while you're looking at one of them so I looked at the rings a little too much but not basketball is like you know how I define myself. It was like everything for me Got To high school ended up Getting recruited to play at Sidwell friends which was an academic an incredible academic school that it could have never gone into otherwise Really really good school. A lot of You know politicians children and we went into school with the children of the president and It was just a really interesting experience or of a culture shock It was it was pretty crazy and they weren't very good at basketball at the time because they were really really good academically. But you know we you and I were like Kinda I along with Jamal. Where like the first people? There that kind of Eric finally got recruited to turn the program around We had awesome coach. Coaching Teri Garr recruit play their played varsity. All four years had really really good freshman and sophomore years Around junior year. I don't know I don't know if I don't know what it was but I just I started to like not play as well. I think I kind of got interested posted in some other stuff. Lost focus a little bit. Got The diamond board bro down. We're not gonNA. Oh Man. Oh Man I did I. I wanted to be a rapper at one point. And so he was referring to but yeah I just I got interested in some other. Things ended up getting a girlfriend. We all know having a girlfriend does to people when they're trying to focus this you know just for whatever reason I you know. The trajectory was not where it where it was. ended up actually quitting basketball after my junior senior year. which was crazy? I know you remember that And then was like what the hell am I doing and then decided to quit and rejoined the basketball. Ask Ball team but as anybody who's who played basketball or any sport knows you know if you WanNa play in college you the summer before your senior years like everything and I didn't play you that year because I quit and then I decided we wanna say quick whistle retired. Yeah retired resigned But anyway so by the time I decided I wanted to play again. All the Division One schools have given up their spots and up going to a division version three school called Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh which is another amazing school that I could have not gotten into without basketball. So I'm super grateful for that Went there and again just like didn't really have the career that I had hoped I don't know if it was part the system. Pardon me not being locked in Part me you know enjoying other aspects of college to put it nicely For whatever was again just just didn't really didn't really pan out but the good thing about Carnegie Mellon was I was surrounded by. I really really smart people. Computer scientists business they just all tons of brilliant people and it really forced me to really question my identity and to no longer define myself as a basketball player but really thinking about what interests me Off The court. And that's when I fell in love with technology and and I built a start up while I was in college with a couple of friends that we ended up raising some money for and and launching in Pittsburgh which ended up not succeeding but took some amazing lessons from it ended up getting some great internships in the music and entertainment space and So you know I know I've been rambling a little bit but if I had to sum it up you you know grew up super interested in basketball and then was had that kind of taken away from me and was really forced to to find other stuff and I think that's honestly what led me to where I am now and now through working with you and other guys in working with the PA.. I'm able to Impact actually the game in the culture of basketball in the sport in a way that I never would have been able to as a player so I'm definitely grateful for for how it went. I know that you asked me about my upbringing. I gave you a whole ass all last last thing. But yeah that's that's that's me I think that's always you know for a lot of our guests that we have on here Including yourself I never really know what's going on. You always have a dream and you have a plan. But it's like you know it's always about the work in the grind and you know for a youth like Oh you know you grew up Kinda put almost all year then that you know the basket of basketball but You really wanted to focus on it. But then as time went on you had other interests and other passionate and things you know you really do well really exceed it you know. That's kind of cool part about your grind is because as you know it'd be random times in college. I think when you got out of college towards the end of I want someone you've got out of college. I think when you start doing the internship internship with Sony and you want to do something in the music space. It was so funny because like you would text me randomly. Like two o'clock like you had you had to be like you know during college probably junior senior year of college. You text me like two o'clock and you'd like we'll have conversation you're like yeah. I'm into studio where like G. Herb. Oh sound sound like I'm sending them like a what we've really going through my mouth. I'm like what is this. Like low. White Dude from Gaithersburg Maryland. How how did he get into like studio like g herbal and all this stuff and I think like one time you text me I think it was an A. G.. Herber her show. I think it was like a broad ally that popped off. And you're like yeah I lay the hidden and in how how Bob the we've Outta there and I'm just thinking I'm like wow. My man went from you know wanted to play basketball then. Wanted it to be a rapper with the diamond boy shadow. Diamond Boys You know going into the music going from into the You know things that you want to be working with something No in the music space to you know now just kind of consultant and Marketing Agency. So it's just so crazy how you know time flies and how you know you never really know what you WanNa do until you kind of doing well. You know what I mean. Yeah I mean a couple things on that one. I definitely lied about getting a hidden but I did Bob. And we've got mass. I missed the first stat but I immediately got my ass out there and I think that's more important than getting ahead in New Haven Connecticut which in Hartford new haven anyway. It was not a good area and I was just that whole situation really made me question question. My existence instance. But now it's funny. I mean you say like what's a white kid doing in the studio with like rappers at three. Am It's a great question. I think I've in my life. I've I've always one. I've always enjoyed like meeting people and connecting with people and Just just kind of seeing where that goes and I think whether it's you know sports music entertainment or marketing all different industries. I think in all of them like a really necessary serious skill set is to be able to move from like situation situation. You know fluidly. And speaking different languages and relate to different people and be able to move from like the boardroom to the studio to to the court to the streets to wherever you need to and I always felt like that's always been I go. Strength of mine is just to you. Know relate to different people in connect with them and hear their their stories and share mine. And I think that's why we're having so much fun on the podcast because this is just another another version of that but yeah those are some funny times. I'll figure out a way you to get back to the music industry. I don't think it's going to be in being in the studio at a two or three am though and being surrounded by weapons. You're getting orman anymore now. That was an interesting time. But you know like you said you never Renault where you're gonNA wear life is GonNa take you just have to You'd have to put yourself in situations and take risks and you know if if you get an opportunity to do something do it because 'cause you never know what that'll lead to who you'll meet and who that person will introduce you to and what job you'll get and You know if I look at every everywhere everything that's happened to me in my life. It's all because of you. Could you could always trace steps back and you can look at dots that connect and you can say wolf. I didn't do this and I wouldn't this person and this wouldn't have happened and I wouldn't have got this job and then I wouldn't have been able to start so it's all related. It seems disjointed. But it's all it all kind of you know if you have that mindset. I think it all works towards the same thing definitely probably the I want to say one thing. I'm most impressed about you. let's say two things would probably it'll be this is the kind of you know the grind aspect of what we kind of talked about now. Because like I say. Go Go from in the studio with rapper. The two in the morning to you know obviously interning Sony. Then you know interning at ca in the mail room and You know worked for different agency you know with. I don't even know who that guy was as you work for an marina and then you know kind of Bryson do not just kinda like that grind aspect also the The networking like how how well You're able to network and I think that's something that I think a lot of people kind of overlook and I think that's probably one of the most important things just business in general just because you know one you don't want to ever come off as you know an asshole or Rudas dug up to anybody. But I know you never know you know where you know people are going to be you know a year from now five years from now ten years from now you know you run into you know someone that was G Herbert Manager. You know who you will within his studio at three three o'clock in the morning you know five years later and he's doing something with Sony or he's like an executive with Sony music side or something like that so You know that networking working That you're able to do. I'm I'm in all body because you know a lot of our off the core vendors because of You know your networking working so I would kind of say. I'm very impressed about anyone listening. I'll probably say those two of the biggest things you definitely have to have that the grinding mentality media but also the ability to network and meet New People and you know stay in touch with those people just because you never know you know you never know where they will never know where you will be and you know if you do that. You know things go by so much smoother appreciate that Brian mean. It's it's definitely something I take. Pride Pride in It's it's something that is really difficult but also like you said really important like if you know obviously having a great network and being good networker is never a replacement for you know doing great work. But if you're able to build that network for yourself everything just happened so so much easier for you. If it's like you know a client has an idea. It's like Oh cool. I know the right person from this place that can make this happen. Her client wants to work with a certain athlete or influence or cool. I know that person like you. Just you know I tend to take take it for granted. Almost you know how. How much easier? I'm able to get things done. Because of the the networking that that I've I've done for myself over over the years over the course of my career and You know a situation that I'm able to do that. Might take one second to someone watching it. They're like oh the only took him out a second he wasn't working harder You know you know it's easy to compare to say like hey you know. I'm sitting behind a desk for ten hours. But it's like you know Matt just made one connection or or one phone call and like you know it was able to get a lot done And my I answer that would be yes. It took one second but it really took you know ten years of building that network and because you really never know When you know first of all you build relationships for the right reasons and connect with people and add value and help them but at the same time you never know who in your network will be able to assist you at any given moment so to not only continue building it but also nurture every relationship that you have and and continue to add value in stay stay relevant stay? Top of mind at people is really a fulltime. It's a full-time job really. And you know I'm glad to hear you hear you say that. And here you appreciate it because I you know I feel good about some of the stuff after we got going on. And you know we've done some cool stuff from the investment side and all that and You know both continuing to expand our network. Yeah no definitely and like this so it's just so cool. Obviously you know no working league said it's not an easy thing to do. Just go in and having you know kind of full blown conversation. How's IT with people? You just met ten minutes ago and stuff like that but You never know when you're going to be like there's people who picked me up for pre draft workouts. You know from the airport and you know there might be like a random like video coordinator for For one organization you know what three year the League now thought. That was my junior year in college in some of those guys now. Are you know in front office positions. And I'll all coaches staff and those kinds of things it was like you always want to treat them properly because As a person as you want to be but then networking aspect is always so you know so important even in my you know my line of work because you know one people talk you know is a is a small world out there Like I said you just never know where you know. People are going to be so. Yeah I mean look at look at a griff right. griff started as an intern with the Phoenix Suns and slowly worked his way up and now is one of the most highly regarded minds in the game. So Yup Spoelstra and you know you you can just go down the list of people that have been in at least just in the NBA be in the Ns one Profession where people just you know grinded from an intern or video coordinator and outer. You know calling the shots and they're you know making the plays to want us like no goes handles contracts so you know you just never know especially to in the League league like how many times have you heard you know we always talk about it once you get a label whether it's on the court or off the court it's really hard to shed that label so it's like how many times have you heard someone uh-huh like you know he could play but he's asked always a headache or he's going to he's going to give the front office trouble and then you hear of guys who were like. He's good but like he's an amazing Locker Room Guy Diane like. He's not going to give us a headache and not only that but he'll make everybody around him. You know better. I mean there's obviously I don't want to. They do a couple of people that are kind of pop into my mind. Went where we have that conversation but I don't want to put their name. Single them out or anything like that but not those guys is in the League. Who's probably you know that are not in the league? Sorry that are Oh my God. This is so talented you know does know. Probably I believe the one of if not the most talented basketball player like I've ever seen play ever played with or whatever you know even even in the League right now and he knows not because not Thomas not there or anything like that is not that. They're assholes but it's just a you always. I want to be treated with the right way and you want to be a great locker room guy. You want to be a great team guy and you know you said in an interview before you know. Some people get paid just not be headaches so people will get paid just to be professionals because you need that kind of culture In the locker room but you need kind of culture and you know other profession version. Not even best just good people who do things the right way and you know I. It's crazy because now the people that you you would like Oh man these these could really be you know a great NBA player great. You know great businessman whatever but they just don't and they got all the tools and all the talent but it's just days don't all put it together in the right way totally. I WANNA take a step back though because we dove into my childhood a little bit. I talk about talk about your upbringing. You know where you're from what you were like as a kid which you're in to win when you discover basketball your relationship with your parents all that Yeah so obviously Grew up so spring Maryland You know the biggest thing for me like like you're very fortunate to have A mother and a father both in my life Ahead and anyone who knows them or know about about images kind of two hard-working blue-collar people modesto the waitr- waiter. No my dad was a chef. My mom with a waitress always getting mixed out you know that's kind of how they met one. They were both from Saint Louis at a kind of move to Maryland And that's kind of how they met but eh for me with always No just grinding and I started playing basketball at a very early age probably seven just because I had an older brother. Her older sister who both played basketball. So I was the baby that always got Young bullied Of the young kid. I always got bullied on that. They will try to tag along with them and try to play. Pick up and stuff like that with you. Know they're finding those Doda kids so that was Kind of much out of you know we were like. I said to know hardworking people. You know we didn't have a bunch of access money. You know you know my my parents major We were able to kind of do whatever we wanted to do. And you know kind of whatever we love to do and You know very fortunate for that private school this ball the way of till tenth grade so like I you you know for cruelty to to sue a free school which I had no idea how hard it was going to be academically until I got there and I knew after the first day I was. Oh boy who's going to be a this is going to be a long year but you know things kind of aligned perfectly. Unfortunately After my tenth grade year was asked not to come back to school but Luckily I had a great parents and classmates and teammates. Made guys like yourself Jamal Lewis Film McCloy Nikki Bravo good on lists of your parents You know there's this is just I don't want you know Dave mcglone. I don't WanNA leave anybody album trying to make sure our get everybody in there but You know to conduct is helped me be reinstated. Bags will and he'll things kind of took off from there academically affiliates dries. And you know I was fortunate enough to get a basketball scholarship to Villanova and and probably figure it out from there. It's all it's all. She right now bro. You're you're stories crazy. 'cause you know. Obviously we knew each other for so long. And I'm I'm I'm very used to. You know the Josh of today uh-huh and if I compare you know what you'd be. How how far you've common in what you've developed into you know compared to when you first gotta I said well just absolutely insane like it's not even the I mean you're you're always gonna be that same person but you just you know you you you took yourself to a new level like like when I think I'm GonNa put all your business out there but like when I came to you? I think you're kind of like stealing some shit at times. No we're talking about but like you know you were you were you just hadn't been challenged to to dig deep and And you know really push yourself in that way. And I can't even imagine how hard I struggled at Sidwell and I had been in private school prior to that you you you came from a public school where you weren't necessarily held accountable you were able to. I don't know if you were like skipping class or whatever but you were able to just Kinda do whatever whatever you want in the you come into this like incredibly rigorous environment you know fish out of water and I just can't imagine like that first year like what was going going through your head honestly cult-like culturally unacademically. It was definitely one of the hardest year to me I I think it was that I always went to public school Like I said I had to you know to parents You know so you know we never really you know like I said we never had crazy. Excess money But we weren't you know struggling for me it was. You know such a culture shock doc just because you know our house just burned down. We moved to an apartment I went from going out there. Like you know when you receive other on the street or whatever you're driving and you see like kids on the side of the street like with assigned to bucket like you know trying to get money for you know playing tournament you you know in Florida something like that like that would meet that. That's what I did. I you know. That's Kinda. How are they able to fund myself to go to like basketball camp? To how are they able to on fund Myself and a family to go to like Florida where we played in national stuff like that. So like you know I want you know went from that lifestyle to Sidwell which was totally different because of the total opposite spectrum from public school to a place where people pay thirty three thousand dollars a year. You know to go to school. It was like a full blown like college tuition. Who wishes type thing? So I'll walk around and you know people will be leaving like like nor faces around and like back then at least I don't know about ever but in Maryland like well the high school like North face like no like those were shit. It was like if you had a north face. Like you're you're you're popular whatever so people just like leaving north faces around like to be in a loss of found it will just be like random stuff like that like people leaving wallets around people just leaving like this just crazy stuff. I'm just sitting there. I'm like Bro. What like? What is this actually academically? It was like I swear to God i. I thought people were speaking different languages. I just wasn't kind of would I used to like I would answer a question and I'm like I got this. I got right like little essay question. Whatever and then I'll get it back and it's like a S- like a C.? Minus D again. You know you kinda scratch and serves you gotta go. You gotta go deeper and I was like like Well well you know what are they talking about like what and you know. I like read other people's You know answer that I'm sending thing. What are they even talking about like? I don't know how to extricate these poems. I don't know how to dive down. E You know into like old English talking about some of the stuff that we used to read Canterbury Tales Canterbury Tales Great Expectations Charles taking. Yeah like I like that. O'Neill the I I could not do it and like it was such a struggle for me just that you know that part of it. The only thing that I've really like I felt like I fit in wise but just basketball just because like I said No. I talked about academically. I'll talk about a little bit of lifestyle lifestyle change now everyone. They're kind of had money so like people will go off. Campus in goatee to lay the GO-TO mm-hmm Zeebrugge Burger Rounder McDonalds. And stuff like that and I'm just like you eat in the cafeteria. I didn't have any like spare money. He's a to eat grain places like looking back. I'm like Dang like now it's like seven dollars per burrito like that was that was kind of like the reality of it and then go now. You gotTA AAA for Life Free Free Burrito card. Exactly why. It's so crazy for me just because die Did Bara deal with a car company out here. Supreme Auto Shelter Supreme Auto with I'm going to do stuff with Soon but I got a all blackout Tau so actually got picked up Probably a little bit less than a week ago. I want to say you know I just you know came home descended thing. I'm like a dog like this is like crazy for me. I own a house in front of the House have three cars. I s like I grew up. Obviously we had a house. Burn down we you know we had a An apartment but you know sometimes you you might have one car you know. Sometimes we you know. We didn't have a car at on taking the buses to place when I used to play little league. Football us to take buses is like like pads cleats and all that and it was football practice. How many of you were in that two bedroom because you had to you both your parents both your siblings and your siblings have significant others though? It's sometimes stay with you too. Yeah so we had You know my parents had my brother my says and then my brother had a ghetto. He knew from his childhood. I guess had a family tragedy or whatever so he kind of Move me no MMG took him in kind of being the person he is and so it was like six of us and like this two bedroom apartment and it was just it was just crazy so like all of that Kinda happened at you know at once in one year and it was just like it. It was such a shock for me and like when I got as not to come back I was like do with two parts of Harvey Relief. cult-like like Matt I cool. I can go. You know to Macho so I go to Oakhill or you know one just basketball. I don't even call them. School collect baseball. Factories was just turn out. D Want you know prospects and I've got to worry about all the extra stuff and all like the the money and Dan you know because it was just it was that year was so hard for me but then part of it was kind of like Dang I kind of want to con- wanted to finish as they finish what I started. I make great people there like yourself and you know my boy No fill one of my best friends now. I met you know some of the other guys motor my girlfriend now. Who like one of my best friends at a time? There and it was just like Halloween. Remember that yes. Yeah you know what I just. Everyone knows what I said. I got kicked out. A lot of people rallied behind me to Kinda give me re we instated back in his head. Well my girlfriend did not do a cricketing. CEO's Creek yes. She didn't write a letter to the Headmaster Assar. Kids phone calls seem to a meeting. She knew around a facebook. Google facebook group wall that we have failed grudge. I stay with the name of the group Joseph. I don't even know she added added the group it'd be owned and this is supposed to be one of my close friend the time so anyone. If you're you know a listener whatever and you see her here and you recognize her I give her a little bit of Shit same energy energy but now it's just I mean obviously like you know I was there for it so I I know the story but even just like hearing us talk about it again is so crazy. 'cause you know if I fast forward to now. This isn't even not even counting the fact that you were a four year for your guy. Villanova did well there but the fact that I mean now I think like the reputation and the the brand. That's like you've built for yourself. Mba's like really really high character. Really Smart Business Savvy Innovative. You know you're you have a podcast here. Investing in startups. You're leading the charge in the gaming space you have linked in like that's not just something that all NBA players do a lot of guys just who and so the fact that one you're doing it is awesome but the fact that you're doing it and you ever like think about the things that you're doing now the things that you think about where you're at from a business standpoint and and then think about like that kid sophomore year who is like about to get kicked out who didn't want to think about anything other than basketball Sometimes so like for me I just think like not is just so different from me Because I was always wanted this life. Hyphen always Dreamed of it like it's just so surreal to actually be in it like I said like it'd be random times where I'll be driving out. Oh you know pull up you know drive to the park you know into my driveway. Distinguished like Dang like this is. This is crazy or if there was like a not I know in an article or different sponsored deal for like you know a gaming comb like man. I used to just plan you know in high school just now when we did have assist like ahead. PS Two did have a PS three kind of did have xbox three sixty because we couldn't afford those two But like now I'm just like this is this is crazy because I always trained about it and I'm not going to sit here and be like. Oh Yeah I always thought This would happen because I did it. Because I you you know I I just didn't know kind of what's going to happen so you know looking back and I'm just kind of like one was a grind and no struggle. Aw but like now discount. I'm happy about it just because I know you know I am who I am because of all those different moments and all you know no put together yeah for sure for sure. I mean even from a basketball standpoint in highschool lake. There are some times single terry drove me made through a damn Wa wanted to kill them in. Oh yeah facts without a doubt. I mean between him and coach right. You had to due to coaches for four years. I mean each eight years total that or three. US about three years. Four years at Villanova seven years of just getting like your Shit handed to from a from a coach and like really challenging you to be even Fresh Mir my freshman year in high school where I with the wind. I kinda sad wasn't as strict. But he a repass him but he was he was all my ass and it would just be about just random so what it might be on court like He. He doesn't think I'm doing everything I was supposed to be doing. Like you know like off the court poet a school like you know it's the thing to be the cool care so like I was trying to be like one of the cool kids like the you know one of the jocks You know the freshman playing varsity stuff like that. So that'll be kind of chilling. I had it must wag sag my pants and stuff like that and then one day I'll come home and you know my dad's talking and like I forgot what he's he says. Somebody was like you know basically like you should recall them saying like you know sagging my pants and you know try be we like the cool kid and that I was like let me get one more phone call like this. You won't be wearing jeans for the rest of your. You'd be wearing shorts and you'll be like it was just stuff like that so it was like a had eight years of people just kind of holding me accountable. You know on the basketball court but most poorly offered a basketball court. And you know that's kind of why you know I am. I am today just because of all of we were constantly. You know on on my ass I always want to say like I'm you know all ourself made because at the end of the day you know you always know it always kinda comes from you know within and kind of comes from Indian if if you don't WanNa do it You know doesn't happen and if you do you know kind of happens but you know it took a village as you know. It took a village to get me here and I think that's kind of the the best part about it. Yeah one other Part of your childhood that I know you didn't mention I don't know if it was strategic trigger. Not but I'm I'm not GonNa let it go by For those of you. Who Don't know Josh was a was a boy scout And we joke about Like we laugh about it. And we're but that shit's serious and it takes commitment and I think you know your dad is such one such an amazing guy but to you know he's all his big thing has always been like finish what you start. Whether it's you know sticking it out at Sidwell or staying off Oh years of college or or the boy scouts. He's he's he's always kind of been on you about that and I remember so you. I'm not even doing justice. You're an Eagle Scout. which is a really really high honor that most people quit before or they get to and you made all the way to Eagle Scout and your L.? I think your dad was a big reason for that and I remember who was Thing was junior year Peach Jam which you know for those of you guys don't know on the U. I. B. L. Circuit Was it back. Then you auto be essentially the biggest the biggest. Aau Tournament of the year. The best the Best Nike teams on the circuit or their tons of college coaches tons of rank. Frank recruiting services. Anyone that you could possibly want to be playing in front of it was there And I and your dad was like GonNa make you skip unless you got one of your patches when in your badges or something and I was like Oh my God like this is like. He's you know really really preaching this commitment in in a really good way and I think you're are pissed about it but you you got it done I say looking back. I mean you have to value that. Definitely I guess I got into that so my brother What the boy scout and Be made to be Eagle Scout. But he kinda got in it. You know as a kid so I kind of know being a little brother that I was most little brothers are. Are you know you Kinda tag along. So he joined so I joined And one of my best friends at the time Greg Gab boys by my guy He was in those. Okay cool like my brother are they doing it Now my Greg's doing it so like I'm GonNa just do it kind of just one from there and You know when all the way through Cub Scouts on what the boy scouts and just kind of like slowly fizzled out. I really WANNA do it. Anymore my dad always wanted me to kind of finish so probably like freshman year in high school but dads call like Oh you want want you to promise me like your finish. It and like any high school kid does like his. Dad says something like that. I'm like yeah whatever lake basically like whatever I can say to get you to shut up so I can go do whatever I wanNA do like. I must say awesome what Y'all yeah. Yeah finish it whatever so. I don't think anything about the next two years. Just focus on basketball. You know And is when I get to. You know I wanna say I'm no good. I would pretty good home at at this point you know with playing with team takeover and Dan. I got back from practice my junior in high school and I'll take a bus so the bus. My Dad wanted to take me on the drive. I was like all right. Cool like we can go somewhere whatever and we pull up to to the meeting like look at them like the Hella we doing and he was just kind of like maybe a promise Do your fishes so now you're going to finish it and I was just like man I'm not trying to do this. Offset and say to him at that point lead my straight but I was just in my mind I was like I don't want to do this now. I don't want to do so I kind of like what kind of BS did a little bit. Like did a little bit but like didn't go all the way through with a lot of this stuff but then he's like he knew. I wanted to play basketball so he was like all all right you know how can I get through to him. He was like he's giving me that kind of ultimatum. Like if you don't finish this you can't go to jail and and I thought it was sweet adult. They are not serious. He's not really going to do this like they can go get a scholarship somewhere. He ain't going to do this. And you know probably like a month or so after stood at thinking when I thought that new the top one hundred camp it was like NBA. Top one hundred camp like hundreds of best player the you know in a country high school player that country are going to be there etc so I invite and my dad was like no. You can't go. You had to go on his camping trip. Uh with the boy scouts and it was just one Yeah and I'm sitting Bro. You serious like this is my. I want to my first time with them and invite like a nationwide camp were like everyone's going to be there etc etc and he's like no like you told me you're going to finish it you know oh you not fully invested in it. Now you have to do this trip or you know like to expand to finish Nisa badge the had to do or whatever so he was like no. You're not going now. You're you're going on a camping trip and You know that so. That's got a how person he was was. And you know as the as a kid you don't realize what your parents trying to teach you know at that point in time but now looking back at it I'm like you know. I understood everything that he kind of taught me. And it kind of wanting me to be so I kind of try to take that into Kind of what I do so now in a kind of how I carry myself now. Yeah something I'm always thinking about an curious about I think it's a little bit more applicable. Offer you one because you're going to have a kid soon would wouldn't it be an episode insult that in but to you also make more money than I do. How when you grow up you grew up the way that you grow up and I think how you grow up major who you are? I don't. I don't think you would be josh her if you weren't you didn't grow up hungry like you didn't work ethic. So how'd you find that balance. or how will you find that balance between giving your kids everything that you didn't have you've and not wanting them to struggle the in the way that you did but also you know instilling those values in them that that made you who you are the probably the like the one the one thing I like the most worried about what what when I have a kid and is it intrigue kids like you treat your dog. They're going to. They're going to be so bad bro. Like and and I talked to Shannon about this all the time she gives me so much Dikshit for because he's like like you can't discipline your dog thing going to discipline your kids. That are the so like but I'm so like I'm so scared comes like how am I gonNa get them to realize like you know how we how. Oh you're growing how you going to grow up and how you growing up is not remotely close to you. Know the the real world you know what I mean because you know they're always going to be like tomorrow like today. I'd I'm always GONNA make sure they're good their kids kids good in every like. That's like my mango. I WanNa make sure you know. I have generational wealth. And they'll take care of you. You know generations that are heart family. But I'm just so nervous I'm just I don't want them to feel like they're entitled or they're better than anyone because does not rely so I that's probably like the one thing you know. I am probably scared about would become. Dad is trying to find find the balance for and we kinda talked about it a little bit. We're Kahlo on that episode but Down was like the the part. I'm really really worried about it. Just because I know spoil the hell out of him I know Shannon is going to spoil them. I know my parents are like you guys are like is going going to be spoiled all the way around but I had to try to find a balance between that and keeping them grounded. Sore uncle is is going to be in that bitch with gifts every day. Oh my God I is is going to be so crazy because there's going to be so many people that is going to be around you guys and then is going to be like random stuff like aac Chef tasha guy that don't know I have a chef down in New Orleans Name is Natasha I don't want to put our whole government out there but I think it's chef Tasha underscore knowle's her ogies follower tele. Jr sent you get a heavy down. WHO GETS A meal fire food? But it's like it's going to be totally because like I said they're going to be spoiled and then you know they're going to be three years old and you know get they're like. Oh well you know I want you know my first you know. Hopefully my first one's a boy and I wanted to be named after me so it was like. Jj what do you want to eat like. And like he'll be saying well. I WanNa pokey bowl or something like that. Like I'm like uh-huh I'm so he's going to be so this sport get whatever he wants so. I don't know Bro that that's going to be. I would be leaning on a lot of the people you know. When that day comes Nassir winter will come but I will be bleeding on a lot of people. I love how he disliked that question and I and it was like a serious question. We gave like a heartfelt. Like I dunno like you would have thought if you're listening to us so like Dang he must be. How about to have Kim like mother on his girl must be like eight months pregnant? Na Na to nine one month pregnant you know there's just I Dunno now we joke about it a lot like we joke about You know I think in every single episode I say something about you having having a kid in the next year and we joke about it but at the same time like you the one thing that strikes me about you is like how family oriented you are and like you know you talk about like you know family and the family that you want to have for yourself more than like anyone I know and you're always like I wanna have four kids and then I want them to have a bunch of kids and I want to be the old. GRANDPA IMPA has a a big ass. House has everybody over for the holidays and has sixteen little cousins running around. And that's exactly what it is like I want to advocates sometime soon. I'm not sure what has the next year or two years But you know if two years ago I don't I'm I'll be looking at Shannon. I'm like all right. It's time but not yet I am very I know exactly what I want I want. I said I want four kids. Two boys two girls already got most of names picked out. I want to retire back. Back in Maryland but Shannon doesn't want to because of the because does he doesn't want to have the code so maybe somewhere warmer by what. I want to have a big house with a big big yard I want I want to have everyone over there for our Thanksgiving Christmas. You Know Memorial Day weekend July for like New Year's odors that I want that to be my house. I want to have the fun in house and stuff like that. So Yeah I'm a very family oriented guy I love hanging out with the family and stuff like that. So yeah that's going to be the life. Ajay heart my single ass is going to be there just hanging out. Ah My single ass is just GONNA be hanging out no kids all of a dog though. May maybe you have to the time two dogs. Oh yeah maybe you have to. I'm going to have two dogs. You Bet to get your your your second one soon. Yeah Bro I totally I I am very I want all myself. I planning out all myself. I had to have two dogs. It's going to be to rots MM stuff like that like I want to have all that wealth I wanted to be. I have a vision of my my mom to say that would be the perfect family so every time I see a family where like for kids in two dogs like I mean like love. I'm like Oh man like they have the life. Did you see a the football player from Michigan State. Nah so his Really sad but he lost both of his parents and he On seeing the dog walked. What is two dollars on senior night? They're the cutest dog throw their Pit Bull boxer mixes. They're very cute. See like I said Nestor. Perfect family for myself but kind of get back to reality And current events. You know we oh you know we kind of started this podcast to list news kind of get into our world and listen to different athletes kind of their grind in different. CEO's and businessmen businesswomen about kind of how they got here and being entrepreneur was was a constant theme in most. If not every episode. And I don't want to Brag or anything but I think both of us are very entrepreneurial or lease we have a good start at least for our age of being entrepreneurs and when I say we both I mean mostly you and luckily you're able to like the little brother I kind of am. I'm able to tag along you. You bless new opportunities to talk about you know your entrepreneurial mindset and kind of you know have you always had that no and if now what made you have have you know what made you have because I think you have a very good You know myself for those things first off. You gotta give yourself more credit. But I don't I don't know any players in your draft class. That are that are doing what you're doing off the court if you could name one. I'm I'm happy to got pretty prolific off the court presence but I think it's just a different lane Yeah I think for me I I. I've always had a problem with authority I didn't I don't I never ever reacted well to being told what to do or when to do it even back in high school with coach single Terry like i. You know as much of a headache as he gave me. I think I gave him one right back. You probably is my parents the same thing so I've never really been good at listening to other people I always Always kind of you know beat to my own my own drama and always kind of wanted to do things my way and you know I just honestly I was. I think I think I think we're in a time where like entrepreneurs are becoming more and more important in society. I think there's people Gary v and like you know what whether people agree with him or not. I think we're in a time where you know. Being an entrepreneur is finally being looked at as like being on the the same level as like an athlete. You know like you have the scooter. Bronze and use have incredible people who are business amazing business people and really pushing pushing culture and the world forward even like you know even if you look at like some of the most important people in the world. Today they're business people there the mark Zuckerberg's Elon John. Musk like like they're entrepreneurs and You know I think I saw that happening. You know five six years ago. It's what I wanted for myself. I studied those people. I you know I started to think about what I WANNA do. What I WANNA be and ultimately what I what arrived at and I think what what most people would probably agree with? Is that the really the only way to have true. Freedom and true wealth is to is owner is to have ownership and and and to own your own Shit And you could have an amazing paying job but if you are reporting somewhere on at a certain certain time every day for others for other people it's going to be really hard to to build real wealth and real ownership and actually have freedom because that's that's why we work and that's why we we make money at the days to have freedom to not have to think about money and to do what it is that we wanted to live the lives that we want is really about freedom and You you know I just saw that early on. I wanted that for myself and I figured you know. Starting companies always risky. But it's probably the longer I wait the riskier. It is and I think that sounds backwards to some people. I think some people would say. Well you should wait till you have more experience or you should wait. Till you've been in the workforce longer but to me the closer. I am having kids and a wife. The more riskier geared is so my mind. If I'm like if I'm in my early to mid twenties and I could start something and I have no overhead and I can cut down my cost of living and you know. Be Frugal in exchange for giving myself. You know the time to take a risk on something. Then I'll do that ten times out of ten. You know when I when I have a kid to amount to feed an roof that I have to keep over his head. It's not GonNa be any easier so I just you know that was always my mindset and I always you know. Even when I was really big basketball I was always very into like you know culture and Music and sports and entertainment. Oh she's very into like what was happening in the world and I would study it and I felt good understanding of it and I always knew there would somehow be away to to monetize that. I didn't know quite what it was. But I knew there would be a way and I just tried to put myself in the right situations and meet the right people. And now I'm finally at a point where I'm able to take everything that I'm passionate about and actually get get paid to you not to do it and to help people understand it and to help help them implement it into their daily lives and I you know in the same way that that you you know you feel like you're you're living the life that you always wanted to live. I think you know for me for for the majority of the first part of my life. I wanted to be doing what you're doing. I wanted to get paid to play basketball but as that became less and less reality in my mind I was like all right. Well what's the next best thing. What will allow me to stay competitive? stay stay motivated. hopefully gained some recognition from it because whether people want to admit it or not they all wanna be highly highly regarded rich rich. Climate said it best in the episode. He's like I never wanted to be famous. I just wanted to be regarded And that was kind of always me I just wanted to be respected and and You know I I feel like I'm at a point now where I'm you know. Hopefully hopefully getting there and You know a lot a lot more work to be done but excited about where where entrepreneurially and and where you're entrepreneurially and and where we're able to you know intersect. Yeah and and for people that don't know love it you know the other new to our podcast or whatever you know matt started a consulting Slash Ashley Marketing Agency with two of his friends Out of La Conso But you talked about you. Know the risks and no being frugal and so just kind of talk about like when you guys started like what was going through your mind because obviously there's so much to the amount of fear 'cause you're like Oh what if this doesn't work out like I might be wasting you know a year or two years of my life. I'm quitting a job where you know. I kind of have a little bit of stability to go onto something where I have no idea what can happen so kind of talk about that and also talk about you. Know the fruit apart because frugal and L. A.. A like it doesn't it doesn't really go together like that's not the norm. La You know you walk down to a block and you see to Lambeau. The Ferrari in Arose Royce and everyone has watches and designer clothes. And everything like that kind of talk about as someone. Who's you know in twenty four twenty five twenty six pudding not business front of yourself and you know not going with the fancy cars at a fancy into watches or the fancy clothes and as you know buckling down and saving you money in kind of really in fessing involving a sofa really what you WANNA do? Yeah I mean I. I'll very long question. This is a great is a great one. I mean I'll be the first to admit I'm not perfect. You know you know probably better than anyone. You've you see me at my moments you've seen me make an impulse purchase here and there you know you had me You go to Beverly Hills to buy your girlfriend a bag that you've that you that you forgot together for gift and then I came back with a watch for myself so you know by no means perfect. I've had a couple both slip-ups i I like nice things as everybody that being said you know I do keep the bigger picture in mind and I do. I'm finally at a point in my life where where I've value. I value having cash in the bank. I I really do I to me. That's freedom to me. Like you know th the the more the more capital that you can accumulate that the more that you can act how you live the life that you want to live not from a material standpoint but but from a from a happiness in from like a freedom standpoint so you know I am not even necessarily answering your question directly but when we first started it was it was terrifying terrifying. It was it was very very risky. I went from a job where I got a paycheck every two weeks to starting something where you know who knows how long it would take for us to to be able to pair selves. Luckily it happened very very quickly You know pretty shortly. After we started a company we had a client paying us a monthly fleet monthly retainer which was which was awesome and it really allowed us to build from there and continue to grow the business and get one you know one more client and one more one more but It's scary anytime you go from. Having a job with a steady paycheck to forgoing that it is scary but like I said earlier. Point about you know having cash. That's what I mean that. That cash gives you freedom when you're confident in what you've saved when you're living within within your means when you're not splurging and spending money on stupid things you have the freedom to take risks and bet on yourself and forecast out you know how how how many months of expenses you have saved up. What your monthly budget is and and how long you can really afford to go without making money And I think that's what most people you don't really do. is they want to live the life that they're not quite ready to yet. So I think that any and I've done it. I've I've definitely fallen victim to that by no means perfect but I think that a Lotta people in our generation would rather like look rich than be rich. It makes sense And I think when you when you're really good about saving that's when you can take the risks ben on yourself. Start that business that you've always. I want to start and then really be rich so I was nervous but I was also confident because I you know I had some money saved up. I felt like it was a calculated risk. I felt like my floor was very high. I was a collegiate basketball player to top twenty five university. Worst case I could go get get a job. That could pay me fine. But if that's my worst case then who would I who would I be to not take advantage of the situation that I was given both with both through my own hardwork and threw God given you know blessings Khudai beat to not take that risk and and better myself tryon. Oh my own shit and to me. I'm all about out you know. Low Low risk high reward situations and to me. That was one of those right you into a great school you either you you know. Take a couple months. When you're in your twenties to start a business that could then turn into a multi million dollar business with the worst case he being you go get a job like when you put it that way? It's like how are more people. Not You know kind of taking these risks but that was that was the situation in my head and I just you know when I broke it down like that I was like I gotta I gotTa do this. I found two great amazing partners and we are off to the racist. Always said was. I was very impressed. It was you know the grind and you know you had to have so much you know resilient so much it's on a grind. I guess to to really branch off kind. Start doing your own thing. Even though you know you could fall flat on your face but You know an impressive for anyone to do but just you know incredibly impressive over twenty twenty four year old kid to go and do yeah. I mean if you think about your life and all the situations that you overcome and there's like been forks forks where he could have done one thing. You got another like you could have left said well or you could estate. You stayed and ended up. You know having a great career Villanova. You could've gone after your junior year and still made the League but instead you came back for a senior year had a better showing every category statistically and then got guaranteed eighteen money in the first round. Like all everything that you do in your life you could trace back to a series of decisions and each one of those decisions like you know you can break him down and and you can really figure out like is this calculated like for you for example you like you know granted there could have been Sich unforeseen situations like you getting hurt in your senior year. which obviously you couldn't have control against but it's a calculated rescue? I've shown what I could do. I got an early second round guarantee. Why would I not come back myself? Show everybody else can do increase my chances and you know I think when anybody looks back on their life and what they've done they're going to look back at a series of decisions that they made in as long as you're doing what you need to do on a daily basis to make those decisions confidently. I think you'll be successful. It's like if you if you're getting ready for a game and you have in practice all week and you haven't gotten any shots up and you haven't done what you need to do from the preparation side. You're not going to be confident because you you know that you didn't put the work in and the two were supposed to but if you And it's the same with business if you're going into meeting and you've done all the preparation that you need to do. You should be confident. Because his you've done what you need to do I feel like life's the same way so one thing I do. I want to do before we before we finish up is You know we talked we you talked about my entrepreneurial staff him I said. We've we've alluded to yours but You know there's been a lot of talk especially in the rich climate episode about you. Know athletes being their own CEO's and in their own empires really and really starting to look at their careers differently. So when you think ah you know when it's all said and done will actually this is going to be a two part question first off breakdown like you're off the court endeavors so far from that you're passionate about right now from an investment standpoint from you know businesses. You're building such as this one that we're doing right now to through like brand partnerships and also the second part. Where do you see your your? You know when you're all said and done I know where you see. You know you. You're on the court career. But what do you see. Where do you see your off the court career having what do you see it looking like when when it's all said and done and like what do you look for or an opportunities? Yeah well guess what. Look for definitely thing that organic and things I you know done I actually FY genuinely love. And generally you've every day and and things like that like some of my biggest I don't WanNA say sponsored by biggest partnerships can I think it's a partnership Turtle Beach you know one of my favorite partnerships. I I don't WanNa say one of my favorite 'cause I feel like a lot all my partnership. The kind of steered away from the first year of these working with someone for not get a quick check to now really been passionate no with WHO I work with. Turtle Beach knows a headphone company WHO The big gaming headphone company Oh you know I love gaming. I love The competitiveness I love the camera. You build the the opportunity to meet New People people in talking to people. I know down. Never get a chance to talk to us. I Love Gaming and and turn it has a similar mentality just kind of bringing people together so I loved loved A kind of jumped at the opportunity to work with them. You know who want access you know wine access. I I WANNA know that we are. You know I'm starting to really really love line and I and I love the process of I love the finish Not Product of it may not you know. I'm not a very passionate about but in I kind of jumped at the opportunity. Show to you for helping facilitate that opportunity. God what are some other ones chipotle Poli obscene when I loved each lay before every flight So how do that. Mike's I'm still holding on faith. We'll get that partnership finalize figured out more but now I might connects you know before every game I eat it on the bench of some games. what else are missing. Oh well we have a new one that we're not able to talk about yet because the company hasn't launched yet but it's it's It's going to be awesome and it involves gaming and content and working with other Other talent like yourself and I think that's really all we can say. But that's that's GonNa be one that's that super super organic for you and Another thing too is that you know we've spoken about is like the value of your name is so important especially and it's even more valuable when you're lining with something that you believe in an area that you're passionate about because then it actually makes sense and it feels right. I think you know you to your credit. You're starting to think about equity more to it's like you know you're you're blessed to have a main job that that pays the bills and makes as you know. It really did amount of money. So how do you get ownership and you know in in brands. And how do you come to the table and and shift that conversation. Say No I don't I don't want you to pay me X.. A month month I want you know I want a piece of the company went to help grow this with you. Yeah I knew the risks to that just because you know that company can go belly up you know a year of the working you know working together and and launching and now you're kind of like asked out you can't really get that you know that money you can't cash out on that equity equity but Like you said I'm fortunate enough to have an amazing job that pays very well And I can you know. Go take risk like that and I think that's something that at first I wasn't kind of with outwit like I said before it just kind of making a quick check and you know just seeing the money that I have this kind of increase but now A more particular who I wanNA work with in Daba Tourney than detailed of love. You know how we work together and equity the huge A huge thing you know. And I think Agri and stuff and that that aspect thinking hopes create generational wealth That I wanted to do What my brand being? Even when I'm dumpling basketball fastball won't be able to just kind of continue to support myself and my family and etc that's something that you know I'm blessed enough to to really do and lucky enough to have voiced to do those things. Talk about the The investment side of things. Because I know you've made a couple and most of them have really been in in in areas that you're passionate about and authentic to you and we've talked about it but you know the the. The days of athletes. Investing in car washes and like restaurant franchises and cousins. Whatever type of company are over athletes are smarter and they're teaming up with the right people and they're investing in the right thing so you know talk talk about some of the investments you made and why you're excited about them so Sony Events I made face clan In the East Sports Organization who I think the the Best East Sports Organization You know who I think. I'm not sure what episode you know Apex. Who was one of the CO founders and CEOS A face on an episode but you know what allows something else passionate about just because no. That brand is so huge. Nso Amazing and you can tell just by meeting. People have really a family family. You know really feel like family and you know when I had the opportunity to invest in that you know that company. Obviously I loved gaming but I'll vote. Welcome NFL the love. And I believed in you know the people running it and you know it's Kinda Ri- I wanted to be a part of it and I was lucky enough that they gave me that opportunity So that's one Shadow lemon shark face clan. I don't think we're able to say the what the valuation was was when we invested because it wasn't public but we can say is that phase was just ranked number four on Forbes's List of most Most valuable companies in the gaming space. They were they're valued at two hundred and fifty million which is definitely more than it was when we invested Sean face Another one was Lemon perfect which is a code press. Water Cobras water corporate beverage which is in. DC New York's and whole food and DC New York the LA IS IN AIR WANNA LA thing whole foods and like Texas and Utah a whole bunch of random place but I like that just because Everyone knows me knows you know. I'm not a huge water drinker like it doesn't have. I don't have a taste you know and I'll have a big sugar Huge sweet tooth. Then I like sweet thing always loved juice and stuff like that so I try to find a healthy Substitute for for the GATORADE and the juices and all the really sugary drinks. And you know. Luckily you knew Yanni who who's the founder and CEO Lemon Perfect In brought to me and I would love. The product with meeting loved the product from day one and it was just something that I love. The product product loved the Vision of it to kind of get A healthier beverage To you know the masses at a reasonable price And then with that one was you know I love love Yanni and just kind of you know anyone knows. Yanni the very energetic human being Very passionate human being and you know when you invest you know you you know. I don't sometimes I look at the company a look at numbers but I kind of learned from from your pops to kind of invest into people and my dad also We always kind of Tommy down growing up but just kind of invest in people and he was someone else. I you know. You just know he's going to be successful but just how he cares himself What else do I invest in Play versus play versus We had delayed par no to the CEO and founder of play versus which with another gaming startup that Ma- myself invested in. And those that don't know we'll play or didn't hear that episode. It is a way for you for kids in high school to compete. You know at the state level you know would video game so now you know you can win a state tim ship and football and soccer basketball whatever urban now you can also do that in No video games and I think that was huge because it helps you know I wanna have kids like I would love to be able to compete. home you know in in a tournament like that or a state sanction match or whatever you know playing video games high school and it helps you. Take it off the street to help. Have the potential for scholarships and and things like that. Ns gaming passionate. About and I want to Always give back to you know people less fortunate and those kinds of things so that was something really Close to to my horace identity. One jumped at that opportunity to work with them They have one more. But I'm blanking on it more investment. Yeah do it Now with me you might have done something else. No just three. We need to make another one soon. It's been a while. 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They'd take somebody hits and they take some of the bullets for some stuff but for for us you know on the end of that total bowl so I don't really take too much hits but You know it's amazing to be able to now you know follow your passions and it's not just like Oh shut up in Gerbil and just play Bass S.. Won't this all you focus on. It now is about you know being able to follow other passenger to have outside of basketball. Yeah I mean it's it's actually it's actually it's it's crazy. How far how far? It's calm like rich rich setup but the amount of like little mini empires within the NBA. You name some of them but like like you know Chris. Paul Incredible Business D. Wade incredible business. Look what he's done with way of like every every single one of these. These guys is building empires underneath themselves. It's just you know we've never we've never seen anything like back in the day you know it was. MJ who had the the you know he sold a lot of shoes was in a movie but and had like incredible credible endorsement deals but nothing to the level that we're seeing now of guys creating new businesses and building investment portfolios. It's it's just incredible exactly so I think I think we're winding down Bro. I know You GotTa Game Tomorrow. I think I think we've We've let the folks folks in plenty. We gotta we gotta gotTa leave some to question. We can't we can't tell them everything we well I hope. I hope that you guys enjoyed that you know. I know that we've spent a lot of time on packing other people's stories and you know did it a little bit every episode ourselves but never never really sat and took the time to go into all this exactly so. Hopefully you guys learned a little bit more about Matthew and myself and hopefully new able to inspire you Seduce kind of keep pushing keep grinding and kind of Folly goes passion. 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WWHL @ Home: MDL LA Cast

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

25:58 min | 10 months ago

WWHL @ Home: MDL LA Cast

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me Andy Cohen? Tonight. I'm dishing with five guests. Who Love the commission? It's watch what happens. Live at home with the gang from million dollar listing Los Angeles now. Welcome to watch what happens. Live at home from the Hamptons, I'm Andy Cohen with a group of gas, not scared to brag about the size of their massive portfolios for million dollar listing Los, Angeles, please welcome. Josh Oltman Josh. flagg Tracy Tutor James Harris and David Parnes Hi David Hi guys. Great to see all of you. You Know Josh Alden I said to you before the show I wondered if you got new teeth, but you told me didn't get new teeth. You actually lost twelve pounds. I did I lost four pounds on a plant based diet very strict, and so maybe my teeth look bigger, but they're still real. And Josh Flagg was over the House the other day, and I just gave him all of my go to's at the supermarket so I think I got him on it as well. Josh. GonNa are you going to be next to with the dramatic weight loss in the group? Absolutely all right? We'll Josh back. Social gatherings were not limited. The Bravo Universe converged at Bravo Khan and Frederick converged his face with mine at our watch. What happens live show I? Love Josh. Flags face here. Look at his. Reaction. Josh Flagg was that when you think he was Jones I wanNA know Josh flight. What was going through your mind? There I was I was just waiting to see what was going to happen next I. Thought Somebody was going to drop their pants. Genital he was getting a hold on or both really. Hot It was super hot. It was hot I enjoy. Josh in your friendship with Frederick seems to have taken a high kick in the right direction. I have a round of questions about your. Favorite Frederick things. It's time to spill the positive liberty. You guys hugged it out tonight. What is the best gift Fredericks ever gotten. You. Know know what a referral that's been. The guess gift is before he came out to La. We would send a lot of deals back and forth, so he's giving me a couple of good deals to close for them by the way I sent him a referral once, and he got me up teak bathtub so f I. What is one thing Frederick does as a broker that you've learned from? You know what I was just on a listing appointment with him. The other day we just got a property. It hasn't even gone public yet but we have a twenty eight million dollar listing and I sat listing appointment with him for the first time and it's. It's funny. We have such different styles, but one of the things we said was that. Why would you not hire us? You got the two biggest brokers in the world, and also the two biggest egos in the world, so it worked out. All right, thank you very much. Josh Altman well as sellers. You hate to see a house. Hold on before I. Move into this. Are you guys? Are you guys all back at work I? Have to assume this was a real. There was a real lockdown on on your job. So are you back at work? I'm in my. You are. Lockdown and killed for a few months there, but now we're finally all. Out, okay good well as sellers, you hate to see a houses price drop, but I would love to see how much cast you guys are dropping in your personal lives with a round of. Let's get real estate. I'm GonNa read off statements about your spending. If you've done it, set your drink James's drinking water for anyone keeping score never have I ever spent more than twenty thousand dollars on a vacation. Drink it if you have or drink it if you have. Special, yes. Okay. Never have I ever spent more than seven thousand dollars on a rug. Two Dogs I won't do that. Have a ever dropped more than a thousand dollars a strip club. Wow Josh flagg. Talk. A Strip club. With a bunch of girls one time and I just thought it was really fun. Me It was. A roll with me for now on buddy never have i. ever spent more than five thousand dollars on an item of clothing. Tracy Tracy and flag. We're GONNA DRINK, okay, never have I ever spent more than fifty thousand dollars on a car. That's got to be all of you. Yes, I mean my God, and then it'd be drunk at the Adra. Ever spent more than five thousand dollars on a dinner. If, it's a birthday dinner. How about spending more than five hundred dollars on a haircut? I thought it was going to be Tracy and Josh fighting. To get it once with our daughter. Remember at the Salon. Yes, I do George Papanicolaou. That man is expensive. Oh, never have I ever tipped a bellhop or valet more than fifty dollars? Okay. That's good everyone but josh flag. That's where. I I have a lot of viewer questions Altman Flag Jenner as said despite your past few now that you're working together on the razor, how save one nice thing about how the other does business starting with Josh Flagg? Can you start with him I know. He is Sorry really. Hard I, really he okay He. He likes my cooking I made them a sandwich once before a listing appointment. That's that's a compliment about how he does business. Why I mean he's very, he's very shrewd. He's sure okay. Okay Good, Okay Altman. Flag is really funny. It's a it's an acquired taste, but when you acquire it, he's hysterical. That's. Those are two backhanded compliments. Karina, de Texted and said. Were you offended when David? James called US saying they closed on the Pasadena House. I I'm not even sure I got the message, amd. I will say. Congratulations Boys. I'm very proud of you. Thank just just once. We actually invited you for lunch. We're going to use our high commission, which wasn't very much to take him out for lunch. It wouldn't be Mr Child, but we probably be. Commission was a lot why it's true. If all the commission's, you're making on your forty million dollar listings. You should be able to at least take me to the Ivy. We can take you anytime. Tracy Anytime David James. Kiara, he texted. Please spill the T on what it was like selling Rana's house. How did you get her as a client? Wow. That's a tricky one fantastic. We've gotTA move on. Okay Interesting Josh Flagg a million K wants to know. What three words would you use to describe seeing? Josh Altman in his underwear. STRAUBING. Nightmare and scissors, Already circumcised I don't understand. What are the Centers for that to? Trim over here. By coming for the coming from you flag, that's rich. Absolutely flood show. It's good. Let me tell you flagging I did an instagram live for the premiere and I don't know where this came from, or how many drinks DP was it'd be pulled down his pants and put his ass in my face, and speaking about Harry it was absolutely disgusting, so. That your ass, way down and. Just so we're clear. He does that to me like once a week you start. To Josh By. This is not the climate for this Josh Flagg. Josh. FLAGG MIA. Wants to know if you've given your friends, Sonja Morgan, any real estate advice when it comes to selling the townhouse. Yeah, I, said she said this whole like ten years ago right? She never prices it appropriately. Okay, here's a good one. Jenna I texted for all of you for everyone. Who Do you think is your biggest competition currently on screen Josh Altman, starting with you? Who's your biggest competition in this group? I would have to say it's different areas, dippers, but overall over the years I would have to say. Josh Black. Josh flagg. What about you? Same Thing David James? I would have to say just flag. Tracy. All of them. All right here. Give that answer. Why not your? Pick one I, I'm the only woman competing against all of you so? Pick one of you albums. All right. David James Raven. G wants to know the coolest part about selling Aaron spelling's former Holmby hills. You sold it twenty nine hundred, and it was a hundred and twenty million dollars. What was your commission on that? It was it was decent Andy. Just ask your question directly the first question. It's probably the most iconic estates in La and just. Let alone to sell it to visit houses amazing, but I will tell you. Our client is one of the nicest people, and it was equally a pleasure to represent, but the house is being sick. I mean it's kind of the ultimate mcmansion. Right. Fifty six and a half thousand square feet. which six five acres it's never. GonNa Light again. So! Did you make more than five? Million Dollars Commission. No comment. We spent more than five million. Dave. How much have we make on that house lying? MILLION COME ON. We've spent it. A wives. Josh flagg Kimberly g wants to know where your client had their lands in terms of the most demanding clients from London ten. Oh she's easy, please I teach the people I've worked with over the years. I give it. What's the easiest one I camera to? Well you're all experts on west side. Real estate, but I want to test your footing on unfamiliar ground. East of the what a one in fact all the way across the country here to give you a million dollar quizzing on New York City real estate one on one. It's Frederick at Glenn. Hey Fredrick ooh. Very is. In Atlanta Reunion, which was. A welcome Frederick has questions and for every wrong answer. You have to pay Frederick a compliment. Okay, Frederick. What is your first question remix or it's also a backhand. Complimented has to be like real straight from the heart. Okay, DOS ALTMAN! What! ABOR? Hood wasn't your neighbor. Does the most expensive real estate eight so? Be TRIBECA see Hudson Square. Town most expensive Selo. Your so. BECA are currently tied. Executive. Tie Okay so give him a compliment altman. You got the coolest office ever. Frederick are right Frederick next question. Office right? I feel the end. That's. Probably move. And the guys, you guys are just for always on brand. What can I say Okay Frederick next question. Josh flying. In two thousand nineteen billionaire Ken Griffin set a record in the world. The most expensive home to twenty central Park South What itself for a? Three million be two, hundred, sixty, five million. C. Two hundred, two million. A news in the two hundred so I'm GonNa go to. The to fifty one. Out No I said it out. Amazing I can't wait to your comment Josh Flagg. What's your compliment for him? I compliment as I like your wool wool blend. WBZ Right now. Okay all right Frederick next. Question, Tracy. Of. WHICH ICONIC New York hotel is currently being developed into condos slate debut in twenty two. Okay, a applause up. To or be the waldorf-astoria, see the peer. Oh. He's a really easy questions, guys. We rolled flag office question I'm GonNa go where? Seen. C- here on my right. Arm! Out But if they're developing, it looks the correct answer. The Story it's the Waldorf Okay Tracy Pama compliments on this element. You are one of the most genuinely sweet people that I know and I love you. Very. Nice okay last question for the guys. How much is bette? midler sprawling upper east side penthouse listed for right now. On. Central Park thirty, million, a be forty million and see fifty million I'm GonNa go, fourteen million bay. As wrong. Unfortunately, it's fifty. Okay give him a compliment. You have the most adorable adorable family, and you're very sweet Loving Guy Oh very nice and Frederick. Before we let you go. I'm going to give you a compliment. You are a great kisser. What did you say? We have seen shows as we kiss? Yes, I know we haven't. Got You hostile tweets. US got to hop between us. We had to stay aware. Thank you so much Frederick. Derek what. Was Jealous for the first soft. We'll talk. Thank you. Frederick! Frederick Black Friday. James Mitch a said, looking back to you honestly think your cursing. Property property in Sunset Square was appropriately priced although it was beautiful. It wasn't that big. Correct. It was always overpriced from the beginning, but unfortunately, when you're dealing with developers that are so emotionally and financially invested into these properties, they start to believe it worth more than Ed's. And sometimes you have to just go with it and know that if it doesn't sell, you're going to get the price reduction, and that's exactly what happened. We reduced it and thank God we got. It sold full exactly what it was worth. Tracy Rob j emailed and wants to know how your dating life is going currently, yes. I'm. Really CAN'T BE I've seen somebody and it's going. Fabulously I don't know. Yeah I'm having a really good time was his name. Your skin is glowing. You looking good trace. Bill Hammond. Making my skin glow. Of Dermatologist. Or my trainer. I yeah. I knew it. That is so la. You're dating your trainer. I love it whatever I'm so inappropriate. Fine by the way you guys. You were up Bravo con. Did you meet anybody that you loved or hated flag? You've met everybody before I feel like. Anyone else I loved Captain Sandy, so we became tight and she's dope. I I love the below deck crew I'm also I don't know if these boys watch all these shows, but I'm like a housewives, cow and I do all those shows so for me. I was like a fan in Green, room It was super so fun for me. Yellow, Tracy's used to being on her yacht, so she's used to like the whole below deck crew. Forty seven come on. What it's a nice moment of also comes off very own doctor. Jackie took a break from delivering babies to deliver a very important message, hang. Not Believing. When should hearing from the administration? Cohen Nineteen is still here, so please to my black community. We are disproportionately affected more than albums. Sperry or whether it is health conditions. We're dying fast so taken from the doctor where your masks social distance and please wash. Laughing go vote in the change in. Government, Thank you Dr Jackie I wanNA thank. Josh, Altman, Josh, flagg, Tracy James, and David for joining me see you tomorrow at ten. She after show on twitter live now. Hey everybody. It's the after show. We've got the gang for million dollar. Listing Los Angeles Josh Altman Josh flagg Tracy Tutor James Harrison David Parnes will tonight. We learned that Tracy's list of turn on include Walnut Tub so I wanNA find out which other amenities crack. You're nuts with a round of s, grower or a shower. Tracy what turns you on more sconces or track lighting? Concert got. Josh Altman what turns you on more Backyard Koi? Ponds or home aquariums quite bonds love him. Josh Flagg, what turns you on more, Crown Molding or baseboards? Crown Molding. Dave, what turns you on more skylights awning, windows. Owning windows. James, what turns you on more infinity pools or Jacuzzis Infinity polls? Tracy what turns you on more heated bathroom, floors or steam showers heated? Floors Josh Altman turns you on more screening, rooms or wine-cellars. Who that's a good one I'm going to have to say screening room. Josh flagg a four car garage or a home elevator. Co. Garage. Dave's. Way Tile or g you, death, subway, tile, or geodesic tile dugway kind of. English. Yes, James a wrap around porch or a private roof deck. Private roof deck. Thank you very much, guys. I enjoyed that more than I should have. By the way, what was your reaction than? What was your reaction? When you found out, Frederick was moving to La. We're you annoyed. Yeah for sure. I was annoyed which you'll see. We were really tight and for him, not to have called me and said Y'all move out to la I'm going to do some business out there. I would have said amazing, but how is he fared as an agent so far? Listen it takes some time to really you know to really get into the market. Right Oh. What do you guys think of that selling sunset show on Netflix I mean it's kind of inspired by. Tracy Tracy. Tell us what you think. God was sitting in bed. The other day and Tracy text me tracing go because I haven't seen it trae. Opportunity, wasn't he here if it wasn't for you, guys. I'll say this I have Matt respect for women in real estate. Los Angeles and I just think that the show is not really about selling real estate I think it's about datings. Bachelors in the Hollywood hills, and it should really actually be a bravo show, but that being said you know if you WANNA sell real estate. Maybe kind of come on over to our show and figure out how that works, do you? Are they bad? I haven't seen it, are they? Bad Realtors Tracy that so nice compared to what you said. laughing. I will say that I have not met them yet at a listing then. I've ever been to or an open house or anything of that matter, but I send them the. To me, it's like a totally different animal and I will get crushed for this by have to walk a very fine line. You're a realtor. You're a very successful realtor with book. Can I. Yeah I've never seen any of those people in real. Effort except for the boys I've never seen one of those people ever at any level, say Ben. I will say this. The boys are great. They're super successful, and rightfully, so the women on the show are beautiful a engaging. In in their show and I wish them the best of success. As. If nothing the show is shot beautifully the way they shot the show. The cinematography looks phenomenal and they show La real estate great, but and Notice their some of their instagram handles really focused heavily real estate. Thanks question. There's a fun fact Dante. That big house in the Hollywood hills to got entire first season, a little bit of Information James, and I actually sold out as well just putting it out. Breath a really yes. Congratulations to you, l.. James. Achon, said since Marie. CEO Ski is a mentor to you. What is the biggest lesson he taught you about real estate? You know what the biggest lesson is. Not How much he has going on. How many meetings listings deals he's working when you're in the room with him, you feel like that's the only thing he's working on. He's very focused at that moment he's. He's dedicated. He has the enthusiasm and the drive to get the deal done all right. We're GONNA. Leave it there. Josh Altman Josh flagg Tracy Tutor James, Harrison David Parnes million dollar listing Los Angeles, Get Tracy tutors book, you can pre-order it now. keep up the plant based Diet Altman, men work like around. Bravo TV DOT COM, goodnight, everybody great to see you. Everybody thank you. Thanks listening to the PODCAST, everybody hope you enjoyed the show. Remember. New episodes live Monday through Friday at four PM Eastern time. Make sure your subscribe to have a great rusty or not.

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Bonus: Car Crash Con

Cold

45:58 min | 1 year ago

Bonus: Car Crash Con

"The podcast discusses domestic violence criminal behavior murder and adult themes while not explicit listener discretion is advised last summer had its claws in Salt Lake City. September sun scorched the pavement. The noontime heat made the air appeared to wobble Jeff fluids stepped into his truck a red. GMC Sierra pickup outside of his office in an industrial park south of Salt Lake City International Airport. He knew the lunch hour traffic. would be bad on the benadryl highway so he opted to take a back road south toward the two. Oh One freeway Jeff's route took him down Gramercy Road to eighteen eighteen twenty south then to an intersection with Banger. Just north of the two one on ramp. Just before I got onto Bangor at the intersection. I was sitting got a red light with one vehicle in front of me and it happened to be a little mini van. A blue two thousand five Chrysler town and country both the minivan and the GMC were in line waiting to make right. Hand turns onto the southbound lanes of Banger. The light turned green and the mini vans started to pull forward and turn rate. And so I- naturally look left as point forward and I ran into the back of the minivan. The town and country minivan had come to a full unexpected stop the GMC hadn't been moving all that fast but it's front bumper did hit the vans lift gate. I was just thinking what are you doing. The light was green. You're going right and then you slammed on your breaks. What were you doing you know and Yeah it was upset to. The mini van did not budge. It hung halfway out into the right most lanes of Banger highway frozen. A surge of frustration went through jeff as it became clear the minivan was not going to pull over. I pulled around him and then pulled onto banger and pulled over over to the right and he pulled up behind me. Jeff put his truck and park pulled out his phone and dialed nine. One one. He instantly my first instinct was to call cops been a little fender bender. Didn't know what really was going on. The guy was kind of acting weird by not really getting out of the way of traffic. We weren't really even going. I'm very fast. Maybe three to four miles an hour. A dispatcher took Jeff's information as he walked around the front of the pickup wasn't really damage to my truck. couple little scrapes on the front bumper. Nothing big the dispatcher told Jeff Trooper woodhead his way. He ended the call and glanced over to see the driver of the minivan walking toward him. He gave off off this really weird five by the way he approached It was kind of like he was a little bit standoffish. Just a little bit different. Not like a normal person. The Mini van driver stuck out his hand as if he wanted to shake jets. He introduced himself at the same time mining. He said his Josh. I actually told him. I've just called the cops. I'd appreciate it if you stay. Stay over there by your van. And I'm calling my insurance right now and he said Oh. Oh you called the cops. They said Yeah I've they're on their way they'll be here anytime. This is a bonus episode of cold the Car Crash Con. I'm Dave Collie back afterward from our sponsors three months before Susan Powell disappeared. Jeff Lewis was involved in a minor fender bender with Susan's husband. Josh Powell. Something was really off. Didn't feel comfortable with gay. You know Indian rightfully so I was also probably. That was pretty upset. Josh Josh had break checked Jeff as they were making a right hand turn from eighteen. Twenty south onto the banger highway in Salt Lake City on September. Second Two thousand nine Jeff. I've had called nine one one then. His insurance agent. Meanwhile I look over and Josh is on his phone and he's walking around acting like no big deal kind of over by his vehicle and then a cop pulled up Utah Highway Patrol records. Show the COP. A state trooper arrived six minutes after Jeff have called in to report the accident. As soon as Josh looked over and saw that there was a cop pulled up all of a sudden his back started hurting any kind of started holding his lower back and limping back to his vehicle and he actually got back into his van on the passenger side. The COP got out of his vehicle. Walked up to me and asked me what was that they said. I don't know he was perfectly fine while you were waiting for you. Jeff told me the trooper warned him. If Josh asked for an ambulance he'd have to call call for one. Jeff couldn't believe it. It wasn't even enough to really when I hit them to really make my head whiplash or my neck whiplash or anything like that. The trooper forgave both Jeff and Josh Paperwork to fill out the each road out. Their individual accounts of the crash just over ten years had passed from the day of this crash crash to the afternoon. That Jeff and I sat down for this interview. You know in my memories the little foggy. It's been a little while. Thankfully the paperwork from that day a decade ago has survived. I have copies of both statements and I asked Jeff to read Josh words. Joshua's says that came to a full stop at a red headlight pulled forward and came to another full stop to traffic got rear ended. That was it. Jeff's version of events included a bit more detail mine wasn't lane waiting to pull out onto banger car in front of me pulled Ford to go. I look look left. And he had stopped. I was only going about three or four miles. An hour jumped out to see if he was okay and he said he was just fine. So so it's a little bit different standing at the side of the highway that day. Jeff could not imagine why Josh would need medical treatment and so the cop walks over and probably about three minutes later walks back to me and says well here comes the ambulance five to ten minutes. Later fire truck truckin ambulance pulls up. They pull out of the vehicle like he as if he couldn't even walk. They put him on a stretcher. Put Him in the ambulance and Hauled Away Josh ended up at the Grainger Medical Clinic in West Valley city that afternoon. where a doctor diagnosed him with a next spring I I talked with the police officer after in He actually apologized to me and said you know what this is right after the recession. And they said we've seen a lot of accidents accidents. And he goes. I'm not necessarily saying that. He purposely caused the accident but it looks like he did and we see these kind of accidents quite quite a bit because you know some people can claim you know and Doctor Bills and in in their hurt and distress and get twenty to thirty thousand dollars off of of insurance for a settlement. Utah Court records. Show Jefferson citation for following too close. He had to pay one hundred. Seventy dollar fine went home and I didn't really think anything of it until three months later when he spotted a face that seemed somehow familiar on the TV news. I have I you know. They're talking about Disappearance a Susan Powell. Her husband Josh Powell had him on the news. And I said I know this guy. I know. This guy didn't hit me right away but all of a sudden I was like I was digging through my stuff and I found the incident report and sure enough. It was Josh Powell. It came as a shock. Jeff realized Josh Susan Powell lived exactly a mile and a half west of him in a straight line. What had happened is my insurance called me? it was right around the same time and they told me that he had claimed that you know of course some vehicle damage They paid out for that. I don't WanNa say it was about three thousand dollars. which honestly three thousand dollars isn't isn't much damage He had a little scraping little Ding on the back of the van. Nothing real serious. They also paid out the ambulance ride. This is backed up by paperwork. An estimate prepared by Rocky Mountain Collision Repair a week. After the crash pegged the cost of fixing the minivan at two thousand nine hundred thirty thirty four dollars he also tried to claim pain and suffering and they did not pay out the money that he was asking for for that pain and suffering from fender bender. A little love tap at less than five miles per hour and at the time. My insurance agent actually told me that there was other cases that he had been involved. That was very similar to the same accident. I don't have any proof on that. That is just what my insurance turns agent told me. Jeff didn't have any proof I do. We'll let step back in time and look at Josh Powell's second suspicious car crash six and a half years before that rear end wreck on Utah's Banger. Highway and five hundred eighty five miles away as the crow flies. Josh sat at the wheel of a different minivan this time. It was his nineteen ninety-seven Plymouth. Grand Voyager Susan sat shotgun. They didn't have their boys with them. Because Charlie and Braden had not yet been born you want to have kids get a DA dog so we got a very the Josh. Susan had been married just over two years. They were then living in Yakima Washington working as live in managers managers at a retirement center. This is from a video. Steve Powell shot when Josh and Susan I moved into their onsite apartment. Well you don't my kids until you've been in this place long enough to you know experiences so on May twelfth two thousand. The three the Powell's minivan rolled north along redken road in the little city of union gap. Just south of Yakima off to the right traffic I think wisdom by on I eighty two redken. A frontage road had a posted speed limit of twenty five miles per hour. It wasn't like ooh sixty miles. An Hour Josh wasn't even doing twenty five is he crept past the outback. Steakhouse Best Western and truckstop. There's no one else on the road at all cars. Bob Powers was also headed north on Redken that afternoon in his nine hundred ninety three lexus. Es Three forty. I had ed come up on him after after a turn on the roadway and went. Why is he going to slow down pretty in front of him and you know he's obviously lost is what I'm saying to myself? You know that's what you say. Eighty years old obviously lost Bob slowed his focus directed out of the corner of his eye. He spotted and odd-looking home at the side of the road or whatever reason it'd take a look at the building and happened to notice that was you know just ugly roof as a real estate and investor. Bob Had something of an interest in odd properties. The minute I look back at you know hits stopped. You know very abrupt. And I didn't didn't understand it at all. No need to stop. Here's the clear roadway ahead no stop lights and stop signs no right or left turn opportunities was no reason enderle. Stop Dead's Dead Center Little Rhode Bob's right-foot stabbed the brake pedal. It wasn't enough. The Lexus skidded into the back of the mini van. You know I think by the time we would've even connected. We we had to have been said before you know might have been going flyer miles ten miles an hour or something. It was GONNA be slow. The front driver side corner of the Alexis hit the van's rear bumper just right of center in his couldn't have been much. It was just a really soft hail connection enough that it enough that it surprise. Is You but not enough. That jolted you. AIRBAGS did not even deploy in either car. Josh would later describe whipping his head backward against the headrest. Susan lurched forward against her seatbelt. Her muscles tensed. She didn't feel pain. Only a rush rush of anxiety concerns. She turned to check on her husband. Josh seemed okay. But maybe a little dazed. Susan popped the buckle on her seat belt and stepped out of the mini vans passenger door. She checked herself. Nothing seemed broken or even sore. You're josh got out of the van as well as Bob with stepping from the driver door of his car got out of the car and I said well we've probably take each other's information and let me let me call and file a report so I call. I was actually the one who called the police. Bob had a few years on Josh and he wasn't quite quite sure what to make of this younger man. I do remember him being just somewhat Aloof Didn't seem to be very animated kind of odd. You know and I am very very kind of quiet. Didn't really talk much. You know. Sort of participated in the information exchange but didn't really have much more to add to the conversation so I it was actually the one who called the police meantime. They checked their cars for damage. What I remember is was much damage at all? A union gap. Police officer arrived. He looked at the two vehicles then he wrote up a report. It noted damage to the front driver corner of Bob's car but no damage of any significance to Josh's minivan minivan the officer wrote Bob Ticket for following too close. I was cited for The incident you know had a citation and didn't feel. It was my fault because I felt like it was an abrupt stop all these years. Later I found a scanned copy of the officers report among Josh's personal files. I showed it to Bob. It's interesting Josh. Gosh told the officer that he'd been making a left hand turn. The officer drew a diagram of the crash. Based on Josh's description interesting. This diagram this this is this is they. They did this to indicate what the individual had said that he was going to take to him but this is not true. This cannot be impossible. The area to the left of where Joshua stopped on Redken road was blocked by a cyclone fence and a locked gate surrounding a fruit warehouse. I've been unable to find any indication that Josh and Susan ever visited or had business at that warehouse. That wasn't the only oddity on the police. Report says no injuries were reported. No injuries that makes what happens next. Even even more odd Josh handed Susan The keys and sat down in the passenger seat. She took the wheel and steered north to Memorial Hospital in Yakima when they arrived. Susan told the Emergency Department staff. She was fine but her husband. Needed and evaluation. Josh went through an exam I and x rays. He received a prescription for ibuprofen and Vicadin. The doctor also told him to take it easy for a few days at work. No heavy lifting no pouring coffee for retirement center residents that kind of thing. Susan woke the next morning feeling some pain the adrenaline had worn off and her body ached but she didn't go to the ER as Josh had instead she stopped by clinic right around the corner from their work. The tech took an x rays and nothing seemed wrong. Susan went home with just some celebrates which she never ended up taking looking through the records. Now it seems that would have been logical place for this story to end. But it didn't on the second day after the crash Josh Convinced Susan they needed to see a chiropractor he'd found one in the yellow pages so they went in for an evaluation afterward. Josh informed his bosses he couldn't do any physical labor doctor's orders also. He would be missing a lot of work while receiving treatment. Josh and Susan spent the next a month and a half seeing the chiropractor two or three times per week and that wasn't all the chiropractor. them prescriptions for massage therapy. All of the bills went to Josh's auto insurance. They were coming to the end of their treatments when July thirteenth rolled around. That was the day. Steve Powell confessed his feelings to Susan in the VOYEUR. Video video recording. I revealed right here in the cold. podcast you might remember. Steve had accompanied Josh and Susan to a trucking company in Kent Washington Josh wanted to get his CD L. and was toying with the idea of working as a trucker. And I thought of all the things I WANNA get regular moving in and out and so I had a trailer. I like to have a way to move at that in the video. Steve Shot that day jar sat behind the big steering wheel using his arms and upper body to maneuver the semi am I. He didn't wince or show any outward sign of pain as he twisted worked. The stick shift in waved goodbye to his dad gave Geico yet just three days later. Josh pulled out the yellow pages again. He believed according to medical records that his recovery had plateaued and he wanted to try different. Chiropractor that that meant new round of evaluations x Rays and manipulations. Josh and Susan went in together three times a week just like before at every visit the chiropractor build the insurance for Exercise Training and Neuro Muscular reeducation he even sold Josh on the need for one hundred seventy dollars in special pillows back braces sending those bills to the insurance as well. Bob Powers the driver who had hit Josh. Had No the idea. Any of this was happening to get treatment for what nothing it seems like Bob went to court fighting the ticket could he had received. He brought photos with him showing tall weeds covering the fence line. The Josh was supposedly turning left into. There's no place where you could have been taken taking left turn. It was total falsehood. That's why I went to photos. I would have whatever information I might need. And and Went to present it to the to the judge. Jin Hee He said I you know. I think we're going to rule in your favor so so. He's dismissed the ticket. Josh Susan's medical bills kept coming by August. August Josh's Auto Insurance Provider penco decided it needed to figure out if all of this was really necessary. The company ordered independent medical evaluations valuations for both Josh and Susan. Josh talked to a chiropractor about it and he kept notes. Here's what he wrote. He said we had to sue. In order to show a strong effort to get more money would make us pay all of the invalid charges out of our money. He gave me literature to proved. I should I told him. I don't think that is necessary. The Independent medical exams or I M es took place on August nineteenth two thousand three three more than three months after the crash. The specialist who did the IMF is described. Susan as quote very pleasant. He did not use any such language for Josh. I have copies of the paperwork from this. I M E on a page listing symptoms Adams Josh checked boxes for severe or frequent headaches shaking or twitching in limbs loss of motion in joints spine abnormality and excessive worry or anxiety. Susan put a giant slash across the entire form as if to say she he didn't have any serious symptoms the imet's revealed Susan was fine. Although she sometimes had next stiffness. She didn't require any additional treatment to return to her pre crash condition. Josh was another story. The specialist wrote Josh was quote quote neurologically and orthopedic -Ly intact but because of his insistent complaints about pain. Josh would probably benefit from six more weeks of treatment. PENCO said Josh would have to pay for the pillows himself. It also denied coverage for the Exercise Training and Borough Muscular Reeducation finding those were unnecessary and not related to the crash. Bob was stunned when I described the extent of the claims to him. My goodness here's been what sixteen years I I've heard. Josh argued every detail of the bills with the insurance companies and chiropractors. His own records show. He negotiated his portions of the bills down to just fractions of their total amounts. Bob's insurance state farm head quickly paid out thirteen hundred dollars to replace the dinged aimed rear bumper on Josh and Susan's Minivan Josh Hounded State Farm for more. He claimed there were new problems with the mini van. That cropped up after after the crash like bald tires and a malfunctioning door lock state farm refused to pay for additional repairs. The negotiations dragged on for months in the end state farm reached a settlement with Josh. It paid out roughly thirteen thousand dollars to cover medical expenses. Josh pocketed about half six thousand. One hundred sixty dollars. Wow good income for a couple of months. I it's fair to raise a question here about Susan's involvement in this claim I turned to Susan's Journal hoping to find insight fight about her side of this experience but there are two pages missing from it. The gap in timespans from March. Two thousand three free until August. Two thousand three the exact period of time during which this crash and insurance claim took place. It's it's also the period of time during which Steve Powell told Susan. He was in love with her and she rejected him so one could understand why why she might not want this story in her journal. The entries that followed the missing pages simply described a desire to escape. Here's what Susan wrote on August. Twenty ninth two thousand three literally every workday. We have numerous reminders of why we want to go badly. Hopefully soon our misery can be put to an end so then we can be living where we want. Happy what we're doing and sooner able able to move on find a Jaffer Josh and start a family All of Josh and Susan reasons missed work. Time resulting from the crash had soured their relationship with the owners of the retirement center. They transferred to another center in Olympia. -YMPIA at the end of the year. But it didn't help so in January of two thousand four Josh and Susan moved to Utah they were both unemployed at first but survived off of that sixty one hundred dollar settlement check after a few weeks. Josh and Susan both picked up TEMPA. The Jobs Josh lost his almost immediately. Susan's temp position did not provide health insurance. So Oh Josh applied for a private plan that February he listed his occupation as manager on the paperwork failing to disclose he was actually out of work and receiving unemployment. He also wrote on the form that he and Susan. We're both in quote great health. He explained away all those chiropractic treatments saying they were just the result of an auto accident. The agent who handled Josh's application Asian told him she needed records. He argued with her at length in processing notes. The agent described Josh as quite difficult to work with but he did cough up the records eventually after reviewing them the insurance company offered Josh and Susan News and coverage with a fifteen percent markup. Josh did not take that very well. He pushed back saying he'd only only gone through all those weeks of spine cracking on doctor's orders. The agent told Josh they could reconsider. The rate in two years provided lighted he and Susan remained healthy the insurance company viewed it as an already generous offer. The best they could do. He was not happy but josh swallowed it. The internal processing notes show only then did the health insurance rep. Raise the question question. What exactly did Josh Manage? Agent Call Josh to ask only to learn he was unquote now between jobs. Do you ever look up when you're hanging out with your friends and family and realized that every single one of you is on your phone. I can't tell you how often that happens to me. Q hunter killer. 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So make sure you use Promo code cold at hunter killer Dot Com for a twenty percent discount and to show your support for the show hunter killer dot Com Promo code cold these two car wrecks six years apart exhibited a surprising symmetry both were low speed bead rear end collisions caused. When Josh Powell came to unexpected stops in front of other drivers in both cases the other drivers insisted there there was no apparent reason for him to have stopped? Josh claimed injuries from both crashes in spite of the fact that neither of the other drivers were injured. Josh sought months of Chiropractic and massage therapy care following each crash. Billing those visits to auto insurance in both cases is the insurance companies ended up ordering independent medical examinations which raised doubts about the necessity of the treatments twice. It's quite the coincidence. And you've indicated that there was some other at least another one of these kinds of incidents two other incidents. Wow Wow three times and it's no longer a coincidence. It's a trend. So let's look at Josh's third suspicious crash it happened during the summer of two thousand. It was a really nice summer. I was actually content. Is happy the way things going. That's Josh's voice from his audio journals. It was four months before he met Susan. He had been living with his dad in South Hill Washington but had just found an apartment of his own in Tacoma so I moved in. It's a really nice apartment. The bedroom apartment. It was brand new when I moved in Josh had a lot going on. He was working long days installing furniture struggling to stay ahead of his debts. I'll cold I think I'm paying out close to two thousand dollars a month just to live. He'd made new friends at Church and anticipated. Hated going back to school that fall his prized possessions. Were his computer his entertainment center and his Plymouth. Voyager minivan I might have out to let my van Gogh which is costing me three Ken in insurance payments which is not much on the afternoon of June eighth. Two two thousand. Josh drove that minivan north of Meridian in Puyallup a young woman named Nicole. Lyons was right behind him in in her. Nineteen Ninety eight jeep wrangler. Nicole lived in the Puyallup area but worked out West into pont. She took a van pool to work each each day. Leaving her jeep in a parking lot near Puyallup South Hill Mall just right near a little strip mall that used to be a mattress store. For some reason what's ringing embel- she'd pulled onto Meridian on her way home that day. Only to find traffic backed up afternoon commuting traffic. I would imagine it was around five. You know five ish five fifteen. Maybe that's when I would have gotten back to my van pool spot and then pulled out onto the road. So that's what I your call and come to an immediate stop as bumper to bumper traffic said waiting for the light at thirty Ninth Avenue to change the car in front of her Josh's Minivan van crept forward. So did she went and thought he was going but he wasn't Nicole's jeep hit Josh's minivan. I rear ended him just ever so slightly. Really we were going. The you know the miles per hour was like you know two or three. Maybe I mean it was very very much. We just started going and then immediately stopped and had impact Nicole and Josh each pulled off the road into a parking lot then he seemed from what I recall to hurry. The checked for damage by design the ramblers front bumper wasn't entirely flat. It had two prongs on it for tow hooks one of which hit hit. The rear bumper of Josh's minivan I think there was a little indentation in his bumper from the Prong of my vehicle. There was not any damage to my vehicle whatsoever. They had a quick conversation. I think there was some Chaka's do we even want to exchange search information and we ended up exchanging information. Josh Scribbled Nichols License Plate and phone number on a paper copy of her auto. Oh insurance card. which he kept he also wrote out his own description of the crash he later scanned both papers into his computer? Though it Nicole had no way of knowing that and I wasn't sure that he was even going to turn it in or file a claim. It wasn't a big deal as far as she could tell no police. No the ambience no problem he seemed completely fine. And very you know like I said in a hurry. Let's exchange information and get on his way the next day an insurance adjuster came to look at the mini van. He figured the rear bumper cover would need to be replaced at a cost of about five hundred sixty dollars. Parts and labor records obtained by this podcast show. The actual cost to repair came in below the estimate at four hundred fifty two dollars. Repairs is to Josh's body. They cost a good deal more he started seeing. Can you guess a chiropractor she wrote. Josh had a mild to moderate cervical thoracic strain or sprain in other words neck and back pain she referred for him to a massage therapist to receive two massages a week for the next six weeks. Josh did not want to pay for this though so he called Nicole's insurance insurance progressive and started badgering them for money. Here's what he wrote in his notes. We talked and I tried to negotiate. But he didn't negotiate at all until I forced just the issue any offered four hundred dollars cash and five hundred dollars medical. I told him that that doesn't even cover the here and now medically the day after writing. That Josh went to the Office of a personal injury lawyer. In puyallup. He hired the firm on the spot agreeing to give them a third of anything they recovered from. I'm Progressive Nicole had told her progressive agent her side of the story. I also called it into my insurance and talked with them and gave a statement of what happened and that and that was it. I don't remember getting any additional pieces of information from the Joshua's attorney spent a few weeks gathering gathering up medical records then sent a demand letter to progressive. It said Josh had incurred about fifteen hundred dollars in medical expenses. It also said he deserved six thousand five hundred dollars in general damages as such. They wanted progressive to cough up eight grand a month later. Progressive settled agreeing to pay out less than half of that amount about thirty four hundred dollars others that more than covered the medical bills. The attorney took his cut of about eleven hundred dollars. Leaving Josh with a check for seven hundred. Twenty eight dollars Nicole never knew. Would it surprise you to learn that. He claimed injury injury out of that crash. That would be surprising. I don't remember there being any concern of injury. All right with all of that background now. We have to look at the paperwork. Josh filed with his car insurance company after the crash on Banger Highway in Utah back in September. Two thousand nine Josh wrote he had whiplash one of the questions on the form arm asked if he had previously been treated for quote similar symptoms he checked no actually had no idea that the guy had made any claim whatsoever with my insurance company. Until you guys come up with that information it was pretty revealing bill. Josh's own records prove he claimed whiplash after the two thousand three crashing Yakima. When Bob Powers Rear ended his van Kobe state farm agent? ACID- did this really all happen when they actually get some kind of pay out and of course told me extent of the Pale and says you've got to be kidding me Djilas how come there. There wasn't followed by you guys because I that following close ticket was dismissed at court I would think he would have no obligation and As well we take it out of your hands and I have you. Have you worried about it whatsoever. Reform while state farm farm didn't share the details of Josh's two thousand three claim with Bob. The company did enter those records into a fraud prevention database. They were available available to Jeff. Lewis is insurance company as it investigated. Josh's two thousand nine claim. The two thousand nine crash happened three months before Susan disappeared. Josh was still undergoing treatment for his injuries when his wife vanished and in the months that followed the the insurance companies ordered another independent medical exam which I described in episode six of cold the paper trail from that I m e revealed old. Josh was diagnosed with a rotator cuff strain or partial tear. Just ten days after Susan disappeared. He blamed that injury On the crash even though there was no mention of it in any of the prior medical records. Yeah they will. It was an act he. He claimed shoulder injury when the cop pulled up he was holding us back. It was all an act again. That's Jeff The guy who rear ended Josh three months before Susan and disappeared when I saw him on the news and his wife was missing My gut feeling was is that he was trying to get insurance money right away when I see this. I'm going man. This guy this. This guy got rid of his wife for money on the surface. None of these crashes seem like much but taken together. They paint a picture of Josh Powell willing to scam the insurance system for a few thousand bucks or in Jeff's view maybe a million bucks Susan's life insurance and then it comes out that you know. She did have an insurance policy Z.. And so that's exactly what I thought he did. I wasn't sure what I would find when I first set out to identify the driver who hit Josh on that September Day in two thousand nine nine to be honest I wasn't sure I would ever be able to. There wasn't enough detail. All I knew was someone crashed into. Josh's minivan the ban on or near the BANGER highway. I scoured the West Valley City case files but came up empty handed. I checked court records. It's for any case connected with Josh Powell. On that date. There weren't any. I submitted public records requests to multiple police departments Asking for reports of any crash involving Josh's minivan on or around that date none had any. It had not occurred to me then. Then that the highway patrol might have jurisdiction while I wasn't able to identify Jeff it turned out he was listening to cold. My wife actually found it and said you've got to listen to this guy. She knew the little bit of a background of being an accident with Josh POW. How so she said you've got to listen to this podcast? They mentioned you in this. I'm like yeah they don't mention me. What are you talking about? Jeff reached out indirectly by by leaving a review for the podcast on your cell podcast. I did leave a comment saying hey you can reach me I'm the guy that got an accident with them. I've been brought up a few times and that was probably January of this year but that comment was soon buried and I never saw it. Months went by and season one of cold came to an end still. I couldn't shake the sense that I needed to find this driver so I turned to social media media in the minutes immediately after the September crash. Josh snapped a photo from the passenger seat of his minivan. It showed the truck that it hit him that Reggie. MCC era as well as the other driver. The photo was still on Josh's phone when when Detective Ellis Maxwell took it from him. The day after Susan disappeared for example. That's good Having onto when digital forensics investigators went through Josh's phone with a search warrant several months later they. They recovered the picture but nothing about it raised suspicion. I mean there. I don't think there's ever a sense of urgency to find me. It was I had a minor brush in and with this guy. And Jeff didn't come forward on his own back then because he didn't see how his encounter with Josh could have any relevance he. We had no way of knowing that Josh had used that crash to obtain a prescription for Cyclo benzopyrene a muscle relaxant capable of knocking. Someone off their feet eight. He didn't know about. Josh is suspicious shoulder injury or the I.. Emmy that suggested Josh was scamming. The insurance company. I had a copy of Josh's photo the one from his phone over the summer I uploaded it to facebook instagram along with a plea for help identifying demand showed my wife actually shot me a picture of me standing outside of my truck I said what the heck where did you get this and she says well it's it's on facebook it's on the cold podcast facebook Jeff and I at last connected he also provided documentation which I was able to verify Arafat as authentic. He was the guy. But I just you know always found it very interesting Listening to the PODCAST You know being an accident with this guy. I followed the case. It's a heartbreaking situation when we spoke jeff shared feelings of frustration over how the entire tire situation head unfolded following. Susan's disappearance highveld. H You know as a father that the system had completely so. Let those kids down There's nothing they can do about Susan. But they I feel like those kids could have been saved Josh Powell's car crashes and the Petty Insurance claims he filed pale in comparison to the tragedy of what eventually actually unfolded in the Powell family but they help us understand his behavior with the benefit of hindsight we can now see the troubling ways things in which he attempted to use people. It didn't matter. If those people were the strangers behind him in traffic or the two children he shared with the woman he mistreated and likely murdered. If Susan story sounds familiar failure in your own life in other words if you or someone you know is experiencing domestic abuse in any form. Please get immediate help in the. US support is a phone. Call Away at the national domestic violence hotline at one eight hundred seven nine seven two three three or online at www dot the hotline dot. Org if you would like to support cold please subscribe in your podcast App of choice and in considered leaving us a rating or review. 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It's been so long since I've been able to talk talked on our show on big John in our show and weighing in and then on now I'm here on your show but I mean we worked together all the time and we've been stalemated for a while now this uh it's it's a little boring isn't it. I always ask me. Hey how you doing? I'm bored that's how I'm doing I. There's nothing to do and there's nobody to do nothing with yeah we're stuck inside like even when you call up your friends you'll which friends you're you're able to even be around 'cause you don't know how they feel about it you really don't want to ask him 'cause then put in a position where they feel uncomfortable but I walked met up with an coker probably about a week and a half ago. He's like okay. So what are we doing? We're bumping elbows. We wear masks. He's going to be doing. It's one of those things you don't really is taking a serious. And who's not so I know for sure. There's different levels of respect and different levels of precaution. I agree with that. I run into those same social awkwardness and I'm a hugger. Alex is say hello from across the room. Just Kinda give the signal or yeah. I'm a little offended. I've never heard from you buddy. Starting now starting out moving forward. Hey by the way. So you saw coco. Do you got some inside baseball here. I mean I read a rumor that he was trying to get things going by July. Is that still on track? Yes yeah so so from what I understand from all the buzz that I've heard Through the back doors and stuff like that. I've heard that July will be when we started doing shows. I don't know how many and there's I've heard a couple of different cities so I don't know which cities I do know that I think it's pretty public L. A. has been talked about Because that's the problem is they've shut down in August. I just heard that. Yes so if they've shut down till August I mean I really don't know man California you're in Oregon but California is I feel like we're real mean must just came out and said Hey I'm basically going to be done with this. Muslim must hold a bring your handcuffs. Yeah Yeah Business. And here's the address. Bring your handcuffs. But he also said he's talking about moving out of Fremont which wasted right here where I live. He's moving his whole facility out of Fremont if he does if he moves out of California. I mean you're talking thousands of jobs that are in that company right there. That's that's tough and good ones by the way I mean he. He's not people minimum wage. Those are good jobs. That's an interesting question. So many people thought he was flat. The logistics to move a business decides like. Hey guys you do what you want but this is a man that has launched rockets headed towards Mars. I'm pretty sure he can move. What did he do he sent? He sent one of his tussles up to space right with a camera. I mean I don't think this is anything. That's outside of the norm of what he wants to do if he wants to do it. He'll do it. You have to think of all the tax credit whatever state he's GonNa move it to is willing to give them to bring his facility there for sure. There's there's so many benefits to going to other states it. Oh California's the hotbed want to remind people that like it. Stanford Shopping facility there. He's got a huge facility. There Santana row here in San Jose. He's got a huge facility there as well like just it's an area that just displays the cars. It doesn't do anything and we're talking prime real estate. I mean the rent on those little facilities at. He's the spaces he's renting storefront spaces and I'm talking to you as in like nine ten dollars a square foot while he's got like two or three thousand square feet just to put cars in. There's no sales people. There's just people this telling them about the car. They're not selling anything there. You can't buy them there. It's just information spots that he's got set up in very nice locations all around the bay. Area San Francisco's Stanford area San JOSE. It's insane to think that this is just one we're not even talking about here is in L. A. And stuff what they would do if they moved out. I mean that's thousands thousands of jobs that would be gone not to mention what's going on right now as far as with all the women here in California. It's insane absolutely and saying it's a big deal you know. I'm out here in Oregon but I mean this is national news. I've been reading about this every day. And he did open up by the way and the county actually they blink first and they said okay go ahead. It wasn't really a matter of okay. Go ahead after he had already done it by the way but it does sound like nobody will be needed to bring the handcuffs. I guess that's my point. Yeah there's no. I really wouldn't believe that they would do that. You don't want him moving out and losing all the jobs that we've already lost in the state now as it is I just I'm so concerned with I was just reading. What's his name? The governor from a senator from Kentucky Rand Paul Rampal. I was just watching his His footage from last night and it just it threw me off because I mean it really is true when he starts talking about kids and then missing school up until like fall of you know until until the the the winter quarter of next year. You're really setting them back in. When people talk about the demographic of rich and poor it really is making sure that the the poor kids that don't have parents that can stay at home and actually help out at home. These kids are not going to get any education between now and then short. So you're that you're GONNA even broaden that gap between the rich and the poor kind of thing and and I'm not really big into a lot of that but when you start talking about kids in the future what doing best for our country. I've always felt that kids is the future of everything of our planet. You know and you need to make sure that there that we emphasize them the most no matter what it is whether it's sports whether it's academically. I feel like you need to be giving kids the most chance to succeed and this right now is not giving them that. Yeah Josh that's from an educational standpoint and even some of the things that we're hearing the really sad stories about lunch about how some of these kids count on that lunch. The calories for the day exactly look at the social aspect though on the on the other end of the spectrum. Imagine you're a senior in high school age? You had your senior year taken away. I mean that's a big deal. That's where you're making friends and you know everybody's saying goodbye and sports and your captains the prom. I mean there's a lot of memories that you do have a very special year your seniors. I very special year. I feel terrible for anyone that had that taken from them. I'm going to one up you on that though my niece right this is her senior year. She lost her prom. She lost her graduation. Walk all those things as she kinda like snuck it. Obviously you know it's it is what it is but what's not okay is that she's got accepted to pepperdine and now she's going to pepperdine canceling school until until December January. So what do you do now you to lock your place in spot? You got to pay tuition. Do you pay tuition. Because you're only doing online classes. Your Pepperdine's chief school man. I'll talk in. We're talking thousands of dollars for a semester. It's a it's a. It's a weird situation to be in for those kids like. Do you lose your potential spot at Pepperdine. That are making you pay. You'd go through the online classes for the semester. It's a pain man. It's a pain in going into colleges. It's already a lot to handle so I duNno. Yeah I are. Hey let me switch gears on you to forty nine is behind US gates. You upsets Tony. I know you know that way class. Well that's your way class. Were you surprised? I was extremely surprised. I got to tell you I put my foot in my mouth. I really thought Tony was not wouldn't say walk through him. 'cause Nolan walks through Justin E. I just had it in my mind that I thought that that Tony would have done more. He didn't utilize the push. Kick it all which I thought was going to be his bread and butter because he utilize it pretty well against me and I. I had a lot of pains after that. Fight with him from the push kick just from blocking it and I really fell. If you look at some past Justin's fights the push kick is kind of like the remedy for some of the guys that were kicking him there. He kind of hunches over at the waist he drops his elbows a lot. I thought that would opened up to the snap down to the front headlock to guillotines. Dr Seuss all those things you start doing body work on just engage. You like we've seen with playing with Eddie Alvarez. He starts hunting over at the waist. So if he would've started using that push kick and would able to was able to get. Justice are hunting over at the waist. That would have opened up that front headlock. And those snap down guillotines in those Darcy's when he got away from that and he started getting into those boxing exchanges DOTS. When the length the reach went away and he lost positions and he just started losing the combinations. The speed was a factor. Justin was faster than Tony and when he fought inside that box and that phone booth he lost the advantage that he had was the length lengthened the range. So let me ask about your teammate. Could BE I mean all signs are pointing to be versus Justin next. Are you hearing anything different? Because I bring that up because the dialogue prior to this was going to be connor could be next which I never really understood if we're doing an interim championship. It seems like the champion would go on and fight now. Looks like that's on course. Am I wrong look? There's a lot of different reasons why we're getting. A bunch of different stories is because right now all he has to with the guys that are fading Ali. I can't pronounce his there. You go so. He's the manager of just engaged and Khabib. And so when you have those two guys now fighting the interim in the main event but look as Leah's like even Justin came out and said the best. I would rather fight conor 'cause I'll make more money he's like and then I believe that he believes he can beat conor but either way he's GonNa make more money and he doesn't have to go through the you know there's GonNa be some drama involved. The media's GonNa play the drawn between Lebron. The manager between could be even him. It ends up putting a little. It puts a little stake in the middle. There could cost some problems in management could cost them problem team. There are teammates but being managed by the same guys. So there's a lot of things that I can see. Why Justin while he's looking at that and saying you know what I would rather probably fight conor and if I beat conor than I have no choice I had nowhere else to go but fight could be but why fight him knowing that I can make more money finding connor and could do his thing whatever he needs to do until September. I can fight conor. He could probably fight conor July in early July. Might as well do that. You might as well have that fight. Make a ton of money and then if you win cool you go and fight you. Don't well at least you didn't ruin a friendship over anything you know. With with Ali with Khabib and the in the management and it does cause a rift. We've seen this before in the past would Rashad and John Jones. We've seen it. You know I mean I remember when I was at AK and I was supposed to be fighting. I was in that next excellent after I beaten. Ideas Gray maynard was right there as well. He was ranked one spot ahead of me and then he was supposed to fight eight years. I was going to fight someone else. I can't remember lost and then I fought me and I'd beat him so it put us all in the midst be was coming up so we have. The three of us in the media was already talking about what happens. If this person fights and starts putting doubts in people's minds I think Justin's making the right call here is if he was if he was smart he would fight conor. Get that fight in there if you beat him. I mean you have no choice but to fight could be but at least you got a huge payday in the process and you're gonNA get another huge payday to fight Khabib. That's too big paydays. If you lose you made more of a payday then fighting could leave. I would say it's probably going to be about equal. Everyone believes that could be now. Is is a big? Big Draw is huge. Maybe not quite as big. But it's getting close. I think somewhere in that close but I think for him for Justin. He should fight. He should fight conor and then turn around and if he wins in Toronto fight could be Josh. I think that's my bigger question. Do you think that will even be offered to them? I mean it's not a matter of justice trying to figure out where the numbers are at. He has to fight. Who offered to him? Do you think conners name is going to get brought to the table? Prior to the September date as you mentioned that could be his alleged to return. I look if I was all I'd be shaped into try and get to that position. I mean there's no reason I if you got a pretty good relation Dana White and if I was all I'd be I'd be talking to Michael. Hey let's get let's get. Let's get connor in this mix because either way. Ali Wins both ways if Justin Wins. Then he fights he ends up fighting. Could even Justin if conner wins. Then he gets the Kabaeva Connor rematch was makes some money as well. So he's made money on both ways as a manager. He's gotTa look out what's best for both of his clients what's best for. Both of his clients will won. The best fight for him is is for Justin to fight conor he gets paid on that. And then that's also the best thing for Justin as well because it doesn't cause any problems between Khabib and Justin if Justin does win which I think. He's got a great chance if he has any type of performance like he did against Tony. He's GonNa have he's GonNa have a great opportunity and great chance to make a ton of money and fighting could beat anyways so now you turn around and you take that win you run it right back to Khabib and you end up with a huge monster fight between Justin and Kabaeva. Getting more of the notoriety that he's already gotten now k. After beating Tony. The way he beat Tony. It's huge if he beats connor and he looks good doing it or even if he beats him but if you beat them and looks good doing it man you put him against that thing. Does huge numbers right after he beats connor fully agree with you on that. Now let's go back to the actual fight of Justin and Khabib. I am Tony. I believe that just didn't surprise all of us just. I think Justin surprised himself. I think that he in his own mind over performed. I don't know how confident he was going into that fight. And I think I understand that if you don't have a full training camp and you can put a twenty five minute situation with a guy who's known for his cardio. That's very daunting task. I tell people all the time Josh. But if we're GONNA have confidence as a fighter it doesn't come down to experience or speed or power. It comes down to we ask ourselves at the at the end of the night comes can still be here more than he's here. That's where the confidence is. If this is long and drawn out and get to the final minutes of the final round that it scheduled for can I protect myself more than I believe? He can protect him. So the answer to that is yes then. You have confidence degree. Yeah no I agree one hundred percent I think also the fight went on and just realizing that Tony was fighting him in that phone booth and and got rid of his length his reign. He didn't need to worry about jumping in big punches and taken the opportunity of getting taken down. I think the concern was was if Tony was to get on top and was able or even a fight from his back was if Tony was able to get him down at all. There was a threat. There we've seen in all of this past fights. The submission threat is is very high with Tony. But you gotta get them down. Tony is not. I wouldn't say he's not. He's not the best wrestler he just doesn't choose to utilize it as much and it just didn't seem like he had a game plan to change as the fight went on there was never someone in his Corinthian. Hey this isn't working after round three. Let's change US up. We gotTA start pressing him to the fence. Get into that dirty boxing elbows knees. We've got to start working on that. No no one in the corner changed the game plan. And they didn't make the adjustments as the fight went on and just in and you understood as the fight you know as the fight goes on and it's working you don't need to change anything and the key you see your opponents not changing anything. You're like this is perfect. Justice competent had every right to grow because nothing was changing. Everything he was doing was working. Didn't matter what it was. It was working and there was no reason for him to change. His confidence was through the roof with currently no NBA NHL and no MLB. 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I saw him get swarmed. The Guy Comes on top of me. You always have those conversations and this one is without a little bit of money Mac Monday morning quarterbacking. But the rules. I understand them if you get hit three times basic rule here not written up if you could hit three times without defending yourself you are now eligible for Tko. He got knocked down. He got swarmed over three punches happened. I had no problem with it. See Chill from your own rules. Though I mean I had dom winning the first couple of rounds so then all he had to do is just tap. And you're GONNA win on fought the next couple of rounds at one right. Is that how you ruled things sometimes? Yes hey we got you dumb. You had no. Oh okay. How'd Anderson Fight when you say? Oh I thought it might just got to get round right. I thought that conclusion to the round but what I'm saying Joshes. I is a competitive fight. Henry was doing a great job with kicks but from that I enjoyed the match. I was surprised at the end when Henry retired. And I don't know how sincere I believe that retirement was particularly when he goes to the post post fight press conference forty five minutes later says well for enough money. I'm retired so I don't know how sincere it was but it was a surprise. I mean as far as drama goes. I'm left it. Take a guy at his word at this point and I I would Miss Henry Pseudo. I would sincerely miss him. So there's two questions that you have kind of in their one was. Let me go back to the early stoppage. I thought it was an early stoppage in ore reason. Why I'm saying it was early. Stoppages you consider who it is is dominant crews. I'm sorry it would be no different than I would look at somebody else if it was a Jose Aldo if it was Max Holloway. If it was someone you don't. Frankie Edgar think about fights freighters been in with gray maynard. That fight could have been stopped several times K. But the thing is you ought to let guys like that. That you know our troopers and we'll get through it for me. I would let dom keep going until he would have been lights out. I'm sorry it just look at the championship perspective. On him he selling that you know is never gonNA quit. Never give up never going to get into the fetal position and just try to hold hold themselves there and recover. He's going to keep trying to get up and dominate. Get back to a position where he could get to to win the fight so I look at that with him you know and as far as with Henry retiring I don't think so it's just right now you don't WanNa lose what you have in your prime in the momentum you have going right now I mean knowing me wrong. He probably needs a little bit of just had time off because of the surgery but he probably needs Egypt right into a camp. Got The win a lot of build up a lot of stress all this stuff. That's going on with Kobe. The the no swabs and all the other things that go along with what's going to happen. Where are we gonNA fight too much stuff drama going on right now? I think in just sports in general. I think he's probably thinking like look. I just defended the title. Did a great job. How beat who? They consider the go that way. I might as well take a little bit of time off. Maybe like a full six months make myself better really rehab the shoulder or and the injury as much as I possibly can and then move on and then get ready for. Let's renegotiate some money and some contract it makes sense and it's not six months is not an unreasonable amount of time. By the way many guys are getting that break right. There's all sorts of fights and not enough dates. It's a problem with both organizations. There's just a lot of fights I think that's why we were treated so much to forty nine to such a loaded. Carta not enough dates a lot of talent and unique spot for the sport but Josh in some ways there is damage done in either way by Henry at least in this regard. Henry has done a fantastic job of steering his own career and giving the opponents that he wants. Now I don't know of anyone that would ever want dominant cruise before. Whatever reason did Henry saw some opportunity there? I think Henry was making headway in getting the Jose. All the fight that is taken away. Dana came out of the press conference and said if I got a strip strip him and I'll tell you one half of the next title fight is going to be Peter Yang. So let's just say Henry comes back to the table. He does lose that momentum. Whatever he was trying to gain by picking an opponent in this case Josie although it appears it appears. It's now yawn deal with. That's GonNa be a hard fight but I'd like to realistically like I can see the perspective on on Henry's who does and the way he's thinking is this. Is Peter Yawn? Even though he's great I think he's a great fighter. But outside of you and I and the the real real hardcore fans no one knows who he is let see him fight another good fight maybe main event something or co main event a fight and I know he has a great win over your right but we're talking about a forty or forty one year old favor this out the same man. It's not the same as if he was to go out there. And fight Algebra in sterling in a main event somewhere and just light it up and have a great dominant performance. I think the two of them need to fight and you go ahead and let Henry have the Jose Aldo fight. That right there makes a ton of says because when you're talking about the amount of money that they are losing during this Cova Todd during this quarantine time. They ended up put on the best fights if people WANNA see. I'm sorry but no one's going to tune in to watch Henry Henderson Huda fight. Peter Yawn shorto buddy going to be like okay. It's another card shirts Henry but the other guy if I hear he's fighting Jose Aldo. I'm like I'm spending the seventy five or eighty five bucks or whatever. It is on high definition to watch it on pay per view. That's the bottom line so when I'm talking about when you're talking about what what Henry's doing yeah sure he's Kinda probably ruining the flow of what's going on but go ahead Dana Strip and you're ruining your he. I don't think dame it'd be stupid enough to do that. We haven't seen a strip of steep and things like that so we've seen guys in the past hold onto the titles for a long time without fighting the problem that I think would Dana as anytime of fighters starts bringing up retirement. You know you're going to start having issues. It's just one of those things in the past. I mean you start bringing it up especially at a time when you're in your prime. It's almost like you want more attention. You know. As a as a promoter that starts kind of a little bit like hey man. I'm making you a ton of money up promoting the shit out of you. What do I do and so when Henry's say something like that he's gotTa be? He's got to tread lightly. I understand he's probably wants more money. But you gotta look at it from the promoters point of view. Are you GONNA be around? And you're not a draw like Conor McGregor is sure your big name. Sure you've done great things triple see all those things. You're you're wonderful but you're not drawing me. What conor McGregor is or what could be is. So you've got to tread lightly a little bit as much as you. Can Henry fully agree that look? Henry is a big deal for that division. He's the highest paid guy for that division but it does still take a little time. I mean Josh. In all fairness Henry was the only champion on the card three nights ago when he was not the main event so I mean it all fairness it takes a little time. You know another great fight though by the way I mean before we just pull. Peter Yawn into this. Who's I think he's fifteen and sixteen and some crazy record he? He's definitely done a good job. But you brought up sterling. I'm GONNA go sterling's getting ready to take on San Hagen for there's some major opportunity right now particularly with all the eyeballs that are watching those guys fight by process of elimination of nothing else of other things to watch for whatever. The reason we got a lot is on that it would seem to me that there could be a number one contender coming out of that. Yeah I mean you could see that I definitely can see that but that is still doesn't take away from Henderson Huddle Fighting Jose Aldo. I I don't I don't see the money wise even if the number one contender out of that fighting it's Barmer. That's wonderful but I don't see the numbers remember. They've lost so much money not having shows for the last two and a half months or two months. Whatever it's going to continue to be a little bit like that. They're going to build this backup. I heard the other night. The car did wonderful but the next two cards are not stacked like this card was like two forty nine was so when you're talking about viewership. Some people want to get back into sports. I agree but you don't have the same name values that you had on that card onto forty nine so tonight tonight's car. I wouldn't expect it to have the same type of pop in the same type of viewership that the other one if I'm Dana and I'm on the outside looking in I'm thinking Henry and as soon as I possibly can K- unless unless either one of those guys wants to push it off but I would try get that fight on as soon as I possibly can to keep the money flowing coming in the the last thing is I. WanNa make a point is look when you have guys that are under contract. You GotTa Remember. These guys need to fight in a certain amount of time. So what do you do you pick the ones that make the most? If I'm a promoter I picked the ones that are making the most because if I don't fight them eighteen month period or that two year period or whatever that I'm on the hook to pay them out anyways and if that happens I'm paying them for never fighting so all the guys need to make up fights during this time they're the ones that need to be fought. I so those are all the big name guys. That's why they're that's why they're pushing these cards and they're stacking these cars. All the undercard guys are all the guys that are opening the the main cards. We don't need to fight them as much. You want to know why because their pay isn't anywhere near as much as the other guys like Jose Aldo hands do. They don't need to pay them as much and also if those guys want to get mad and collect their money and leave the you have just cut them. They'll say look you're going to keep you and you're just going to go ahead and extend maybe we'll extend you another two fights or we'll give you a little bump and pay for being so patient with us because of everything but they don't. WanNa lose any of their big name. Guys THEY DON'T WANNA lose Jose Aldo. He's too big of a name doesn't matter how old he is k. All these other guys. They don't WANNA lose them. The big name guys. That are making a ton of money. They're going to stack these cards. And they WANNA fight him because they don't want them to go somewhere else or they don't want to pay them out on fights that they never fought. Now your teammate Daniel. Komiya has been pretty vocal lately and he even made a comment on Saturday then he would fight and Gano for the heavyweight championship. But Josh I gotTa Tell You. I was very bothered by that. Because if you contender in cormier calling a contender in Gano how the hell did they deduce it? It's going to be for a championship. Two contenders not fight for a championship. You cannot have a championship fight. The champion doesn't show up. What am I missing there? You're missing the fact that steep aid the way he had done. His interview hit sounded like he said. Look you know I really don't care what the fans think and what everybody else thinks. And that's kind of what got when you have a champion. This starts talking like that. He's willing to continue to sit out. And as a promoter. I've got money invested into building you up and if you're my champion. I need you to be as active as you can. And that's kind of been the issue is I get it. He was dealing with some issues and then the covert Kinda hit but look a lot of these guys are able to start kind of getting some training. You're telling me you're a world champion and that you don't have a facility that you can just get into whether it's your garage whether it's your local gym wherever you train. That they're not gonNa let the person a world champion. You have sea world champion. Can't get in there behind closed doors with his trainer and hit mitts and do bag work and and call a buddy and be like hey let me get a couple rounds of grappling in like just at least stay busy and keep going so. I think when that was said by steeping that started. They started thinking about other avenues on how we can get this busy. Because you gotta say Francis in Ghana Right now has been waiting patiently in the wings for all of this dust to settle from one DC. Wanted the fight brock laser to win Steep was talking about fighting Tyson. Fury Fucking Shit. Show in the heavyweight division and so I think what it was. Dc What's debate? If you don't WANNA fight I'll go straight the Dana and say hey you know what all fighting gone them for the title and whether they strip them or not maybe you could be Enron title. Whatever it is he just as debate. I and WANNA fight. I WANNA fight. They may strip strip. Cpa see baking. Come back and fight. Whoever wins between Ghana? If that's the case you know. Dc is going to be. I think forty two here coming up in March or maybe it just passing. He just turned forty one or forty two anyways somewhere in there. He doesn't have much time and the longer. This thing drags out every month after. You've already set a date for you to retire. A really does start wearing on you. Your mindset is not the same like I said when I was talking about Henry fighters start setting like saying things like almoner retire. Almost I'm going to set a timeframe of what I'm gonNA retire. It starts negatively working against how they train things they do. They're already kind of in their mindset starting to retire and that affects their performance. And they're not the same fighter anymore. So I I don't I don't like to hear those things but I think also that stay did it to himself a little bit and just trying to get that title. Ri- as fast as you possibly can before father time catches up to him and Josh. I get all those things as to why Daniel would wanna get in there and get one more fight and if that's the goal but to make it a championship fight seems like wishful thinking at the highest levels to me. Look first off. It's Stephen doesn't come and you strip him. That means it's for the undisputed title match of which Daniel would be favored to win of which Daniel has openly declared will be my last match. So now you get rid of steep. You don't have a heavyweight champion. You Bring Daniel in to pick up the champion now. You don't have heavyweight champion so it would seem as though in a best case scenario that would be the interim championship. Allow Daniel to walk away steep and Francis credited with. It may possibly a way to solve the problem. I mean Daniel comes in and beats debate which is very possible to do. Maybe even likely he leaves on I. That's a hard thing. I mean really hard thing to do. That might be a possible solution. I just don't know how crazy I am about the tone of a contender Colin another contender for a title fight. I don't believe we can have a title fight if the champion and holds the title. Then show I've always said this I don't I know that Dana owes DC favor. That's why we're doing. That's why he's doing this. My only my only thing is is like you really are putting your heavyweight division in a really weird situation because I think. Dc beat St Bay. I think he'd beat them in the third fight. I think he'd beat pretty easy convincingly. It's GonNa be tough the first two rounds but if he gets them down in those first few around steep won't be the same fighter in the third fourth and Fifth. And you see this HEDWIG. Because they don't really get up off their back all that well and I think. Dc's got the chance to go ahead and do that against him. We've seen though with Francis and Gano. How much better? He's gotten his fight with steep. He's gotten so much better. His Russell has gotten better his his ability to get up from the bottom has gotten his is. He's put the the the the use of the range and the distance a lot better. I mean he just walked through. Rosen's I wanNA mess up his name. Roseanne strike he walked through them this last week. In twenty seconds I mean. The speed is a factor. Dc and in Ghana is a fight. That scares me for DC. It just the speed the length the range the actual real size of Ghana is is huge compared to these. He's not a big guy. Dc's what five eleven five ten five eleven. You know walking around two fifty five right now I think you know. So by the he gets in that cage he'll be about two thirty eight the size difference going to be huge tree. I fully agree. Listen in God does not an easy fight for anybody and if you do look at go okay. Steep A and Daniel. The only thing that's keeping. Cpa Daniel apart is the date by the way steep is over the I thing he's agreed to the money. The rules the terms the way class the whole bit. We have a date tissue. It would seem though Josh if we do find a way to get them together. And that would be my prediction. We'd get them together. What do you do within Gano? Because that's a totally different booking. You know you can't just throw in Ghana win there with somebody and Ghana will hurt you and he'll send you to the hospital. You have a responsibility to put him in there with somebody who can defend themselves and Josh outside of those two of steeping cormier. I'm not really seeing another guy. I'm not sure that a Gano doesn't need to be the first guy ever to just sit out and wait however long it takes and just be the number one. Contender is a dangerous guy. This is not just another athlete. This is a dangerous man. Yeah I can't think of anyone realistically and here's the only issue. Is that the guy that I would probably put them against. It'd be Derek Lewis. But we've already seen that. It was a snooze fest and so do you take a chance and potentially try to run it back. Is that what you do or do you just let it be? I don't know what you I don't. What the end result is on that. Yeah and even curtis blazes a great option in terms of being talented and youthful and on paper. He makes all the sense. He's a big Josh. They fought twice. I'm not sure if you're aware but not just once. They fought twice and God who got him out of there in less than three minutes combined while combined. Wow that's crazy you wanNA know speaking of Christmas past here. If there's one fight that I is a fan have lost out on because of this epidemic. You want to know what it is and I feel. It hasn't been talked about enough. I really wanted to see Lima and Gay Bar. I think that's a great match particularly with Lima changing weight. Classes Gay Gorgas. Nobody's fool that's going to be a standup fight. So many people always think of women no matter how many times he proves different. They always think he's a ground guy I and they're wrong. He's one of the few guys he he's a stand up guy. I Julia Ju Jitsu Second Guard go to Stanford beat each other up. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA have to disagree with you on that GIG. Art has always been known to try to fight the smartest fight and when he first came to ballatore and he came over and fought KC for the title. The he went out there and got the takedown dominated within two minutes. Two and a half minute. Forty seven minutes. Something like him getting them out of their one the title. I think he was going to do the same thing against Lima. He's GonNa cancel the feet. Yes he was. GonNa take down. Get to the top position dominate from the grappling position. And I think that's how he was. GonNa win that fight. I don't think ever there was a moment where he was going to stand. I think he was gonNA stand enough to get to the takedown use his his height than his range and his reach and his kickboxing defensive kickboxer. And then get the takedown dominate. The position was so strong top. Josh he is so he will pound you while passing while pounding while passing and he'll put two things together is so much to deal with from that top position. He's good and he's he's one of those fight. I Q fighters is so good and you listen to guys like talk to Levada Junior. He said I didn't realize how good his grappling was. He's like you don't understand. I've compete against some of the best black black belts in the world. He's and this guy right now. He's so good he on his ground. I drastically underestimated how good he wasn't ground. He weathered everything that I gave to him. In the first three rows the first two rounds. He's like came on. He started doing things to me. He sort of trying to pass my guards sort of dominant positions that. I wasn't used to people doing that to me and he was able to do that. Lets you know how good Gig art is on the ground and particularly on top? I hear what you're saying about bottom. I got no this bottom but on top. He's finished. You want to know who else is amazing on top and never really gets the credit. I would put gay guard and I will put Luke rockholt those two guys if they get on top of you. You are not likely to get up and if you do. You're going to be different. It's not going to be the same after that. Yeah I mean the you've just brought up luke and I gotTa tell you big John and I were talking about our show as well. Is that with Luke. He's gotTa get back to the fundamentals of what got him to be as good as he was. I have no problems. Because he's he's time. I got the ITCH. Come back and he wants to fight again and I would love to see it and the reason why I love to see it because I want to see him be what I know he can be. I know that he is a phenomenal on the ground. He so good but I think in somewhere in the process he went into so much kickboxing grappling still. There is the process of getting the person down that has evolved pass. What he remembers him it being before back when he used it more often. It was pressed to the fence. Rob The legs pull away. Now you've got to learn how to wrestle in the open area to get people down and get them away from the fence to hold them down. People use the fence now to get up and they do it so well. It's so hard to get people down against the fence and it's hard to hold them down against the fence he needs to work on his actual takedown games out of the. Open Matt getting the fight to the ground. Because I gotTa tell you. His JITSU was phenomenal man. It's so good. He so freakishly strong and I want to see him. Go back to one thousand five. He's long lengthy he's way bigger than everybody else to five zero five. He's just another tool five pounder k. Sure he'll be in the conversation the mix but I think that his ability to be possibly become champion again at one eighty five. It's there he'll have a hard time with guys like Paula cost because he's just so ahtletics so explosive so good so hard to hold down all those things guys like you will remember who have a hard time with those guys. But I mean how much can you well fight? Let's be real like maybe until he's fifty five but it's crazy to think right but I mean like guys like Izzy I think luke has a chance stylistically and I'm GonNa get a lot of heat for this. He's got a chance to beat guys like izzy. He has a harder time with guys like Paul. Akasa guys like you'll Romero but there's guys in that mix. I think he's got to get one or two good wins gets call like we talked about earlier. Get Your Confidence Level K and get back to where you think you need to be to become champion again mentally and also physically and so if he can do that I can make another title run I think so too. I mean look matters. Nobody's going to draw Luke and go. Oh this is a day off. No that's crazy. Talk groups a problem for anybody and I. I even liked him in in the fight I thought he was having a feeling out process at two hundred five thousand. I think he was feeling okay. This power is a little different. I'm not pushing guys around the same but look man. If you took those shots Lucchetta take a guess. That would have put them. You'll down. Nobody's taking those kind of punches. I mean it's it's a risky game out there. In all fairness I agree one hundred percent. I mean like the shots from your well. Romero the shots from I mean he just. He's got to change the style. Just a tiny bit. He's gotTa make some adjustment some tweaks in here. He doesn't need to do much because he's got all of the intangibles he's got the athleticism he's got the length the reach the range. He's got the grappling. He needs to get his rustling up to par and he's got the striking he just needs to protect the chin. A little bit better ally said little tweaks here and there. The one thing about Luke is he's always been someone you show him something one or two times and he can do it and you can do it in live training you can do it and live sparring. He can do it at all those scenarios so matter of can he do it when the lights turn on an inside the cage and I think he can but you gotta make the tweaks man if he can make those little tweaks to his game to help make sure that he doesn't get caught as much. I think you'll see a different fighter. Well I look forward to seeing Josh. Thank you for the time. Do you have anything else. You WanNa get off your chest. No I wanted to run one thing the fight the one fight that I want to talk about is it. The fight they were never going to see was it. Is this the greatest? We'll never see as the Tony and could be you know. Probably it's very hard to imagine they're going to get back together. Look it's hard to imagine that could be going to get beaten. I understand that just engages brought some nuances and and really spark some interest in some people's minds but could be would have to get beat before. Tony was even in the conversation. I don't know the road path. The Path back for Tony at least in the short term is going to give him an opportunity. I think it's just going to be hard to break into that big three. I really think that could be if and when he's to get past Justin. I do believe he's going to go on and fight. Conor Imagine Carter beats him as unlikely as that may be from what we saw the first. But let's say he does just they're to go do the trilogy. I'm just saying that's GONNA push one hundred and fifty five pounds out for a while and I don't really see a path where we're Tony could be cross paths you. I'd like to see for Tony in all fairness I'd like to see a break in a meaningful break you know. He's been training super hard. He's had some super hard fights. Even if you go back and look at that fight he had with that was an absolute war in though he wanted got fight of the night and all these different. I think people overlooked. What a battle that was if you look at Tony's fight with cowboy. That was an absolute war. I mean those guys were beating each other up and because Tony gets his hands as I don't think people realize man there's some damage there. There's some time take and then this of courses battling with Justin beginning stopped on your feet without ever falling down. You gotta take one heck of a beating for erupted jumping on your feet and I only offer that he could use some time and I think he deserves that he deserves that for himself and his family and all of us need to give them a little bit of space. One last thing is the greatest combat fight athlete in the world. He certainly gotta claim to it man three championships at three different weight classes. You know they keep talking about this champ champ thing because he did it twenty five and thirty five people forget when he won the Olympics. He did that at one hundred. Twenty one pounds. I mean that was yet a different weight class. Totally different sport. Henry has a claim to that crown. Yes that's impressive man. I gotTa tell you. I'm a huge fan of watching him. Fight he just so his Mariah's fight just won me over bit down on the mouthpiece chase game plan mid fight and just went out there and dominate it. That was beautiful working man. They drive me on. I appreciate make sure I just wanted to post quick with a big John. A show called weighing in on Youtube. Check that out. Thank you josh if I could just piggyback on the back of what you said the one thing that scary and impressive on Suharto as well is. He's getting better Josh. He is getting better with each fight. That's one problem you know if you come into him versus dumb. I was picking that fight. But here's what I had to go off the best I've ever seen Henry look versus the best. I've ever seen dom looking to form my own opinion. I thought it was the problem with that. Deduction is one thing about. Henry is every time he gets in there. He looks better. Will you can't factor that in factor in something that you don't see. He did it again. Dom was moving around work in the game pen looking good as I've ever seen him look. Henry found a way to walk him down to chop those lights. Who would have thought to do that? Henry Huda in the moral Mariah's fight. He did exactly what Tony Wasn't able to do was change. The game plan mid fight. Yucky realized it wasn't working. There was some into something going on with him. He had hurt his leg is whatever was in that fight. He made the adjustments as the fire. That's the size of a true champion champion Olympic champion but someone who can make adjustments in short periods of time that can take over the fight. He did that against ice and you saw him. Make the adjustments. You know dom well I gotTa tell you man. I really feel like he shouldn't take any time off. He should jump on six month. Off is not really six months off when you're still continuously training getting better and I can't see him being beat by emperor longtime guys that pose threats but they don't pose threats that he does he's so good and I decided this emotionally move on guys that compete with versus guys. That can beat them to different things. Josh I'm so sorry we've said goodbye. I stay here all day with you. I got one final thing inside baseball. Aka Talk Your other team cane. So cain leaves. Wwe Is does that open the door for Cain to return to or is he gonNa wait and tell some of the economic change and go back to WWe or option. See something. I'm missing here. Well I'm going to take take a quote from Heavier Mendez and I've had this for the strong belief that realistically this is really just a layoff right now until the economy gets back on track and live events and start running I think cain has no desire to get back to fighting so no. I don't think he'll be back. There is a rumor that Cain was coming into the Aka his first day of Aka which I take to mean you know his first week or so trying to get the attention of coach. Avi Air GOING UP HOBBY. Not Knowing who he is working with. Someone else wanted to get rid of this. This annoying guy that keeps coming up to them. The rumor is that hobby. You're finally said to Cain. Go over. Kick that bag a thousand times. Then come talk to me. Just get out of my way. That came went over. Kicked that bag one thousand times and came back. I do believe that is the literal stories Josh. Am I in anywhere close? I actually reached out to you. It tells you know absolutely but it's not clear ever happens. Look it did happen. The thousand bag kicking. It did happen but let me break it down for you. The whole thing was that moment. Cain walked into the gym. Everyone knew from that moment. On he dominated positions. His conditioning was on par for he came right from wrestling. Right into AKA. And I gotTa tell you man. There wasn't heavyweights around. The could stop what he was doing. Sure he had no stand up but he was just out working everybody else from that very moment on. Havi or knew exactly who he was. There was never a mojave air. Didn't know he was after that first day Mohammed make him go kick a bag thousand times he did so what did not believe. It was his first or second fight. He ended up getting injured and after he got injured. He couldn't do anything so we had to tell him. Hey Go kick the back. Because he could kick but he couldn't do any punching couldn't do sign was a shoulder or his hands. Something happened and he's all he could do was kick so hot said No. I'm not GonNa work view not going to let you do anything. You cannot work with any of these guys but you're bugging me so go over there and kick the bag. I want five hundred kicks right. Lake five hundred kicks left leg. He did that every day for. I think some month knowing so and you start watching some of his. You'll know when you see it from the beginning part of his career to when he started when he started throwing head kicks that was during that transition where you got stuck doing the head kick on the on the bag off thousand kicks on the heck. Yeah but no. It's it's funny. You were telling that story and I recall all man I said. Yeah there is some truth to solve it but everyone ever since Cain Walk to the gym. Everyone's no who's Canaan who was. Hey thank you buddy and this time I mean Josh Goodbye. I'll talk yourself. You're listening to your welcome with jailed son in listen up. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know it's easy bundling policies GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowners and renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around the house. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote. See how much you can save. That's GEICO DOT COM GEICO DOT COM now back to your welcome with jails son and I need a deep breath. I am Red Hot right now. Smith versus take sharer just ended. I am not sure. This is a good time to make video. I am disgusted. I am disgusted. There was two ten eight rounds in the fifth round. Would've been attend eight round which would constitute three ten eight rounds in a row which has never happened in the history of combat ever not in boxing or an may have you had three ten eight rounds interro why because somebody would have got their athlete. The hell out of there. That's why somebody would have stopped that fight. I don't know who's the blame here for for some reason. I am not put it on. The referee for some reason reverie gave him every opportunity represented from a different angle. Referees up up. Close referee is speaking being spoken back to in some fashion. Generally speaking I am trusting. That happened in this place though I cannot prove it. How does a Corner Not Stop the fight? You'RE NOT STOP. The fight when you're athlete can no longer move you. Stop the fight when you're athlete can no longer win. Which only comes two things. One of two things. He got injured or he's exhausted either way. Those aren't fixable in the moment and you don't leave him out there to toughen up and no other sport with be expected if Lebron gets her right now. Lebron hits the bench right now. If manning gets hurt right now men and hits the bench right now in any other sport. That's the way it works. You do out there you prove. You're a tough guy. You didn't think taking your shirt off in front of the world and stepping into a steel cage with another man proved that you were a tough guy. What was that his ear explodes Anthony Smith ear explodes from a cauliflower? He's cut on both sides. He balled up out of exhaustion and by the way some pain some damage that was done to him. The referee tried to talk to them. In between rounds he walked away from a referee that say signal. If I'm fighting in the reverie comes to talk to me and I don't say a word I turn and walk away like I don't hear I'm sending a signal to my tag team partner to get me to the back. He goes to the corner. He tells his corner. He's bleeding out of every everywhere is completely exhausted. And then he shares with his quarter. My teeth are falling out. These are signals and nobody thought to get him. The hell out of there. He's exhausted. I could see it from West Linn Oregon on my couch. They were there. How is the outcome any different? Why stopped the fight? Anthony Lost Okay. Send them back in there with absolutely no energy. Oh by the way bleeding out of everything and teeth fall out of his mouth. He's going to lose. The result is the same but we could save him twelve minutes. That was disgusting. That was that was absolutely disgusting but nobody helped him with is it. You see as your job to tell them to throw a jab. You don't think the top contender nose to throw a jab. Was your job to bring him some. What your job is to get him home in one piece. You got one job to explain why this happened to explain why we got to this. Level of exhaustion was very easy to see. Anthony came out Fatah style that he has never fought before. If you go back and you were to do a punch count K. strikes with the fists. The kicks the knees the viewer go back into a strike count of output that Anthony Smith in the first round of his fight tonight with to share. And you put that number against any number of any round of any fight. Anthony is ever had the first round and the output is going to be any other output of any other round two one. He was so busy. Pumping this Jab nonstop with the JAB land. Front kicks lead knees. Come with L. Bob Papa. He was touching global up. It wasn't a terrible strategy. I thought he looked great. But when you come out and you do double the output. You're going to do it for half the time. It's pretty simple. Damn math right there. So he needed a finish. He was looking for a finish. It looked at many times like he was going to get a look. Like wow. This is GonNa work out great but when it doesn't work out your gas tickets now empty. That's simply what happened. This was an experiment. Anthony has never done that level of output before he looked great. But you can only do it for so long. He's still a human being. He's trained to the highest of levels for many years. He's been a main event fighter. He's been a world title contender. He's been in the prime of his physical conditioning many times and he could not sustain that output. So why would tonight in Florida really different? That's fine I'm not mad at his strategy. I thought he looked great. But when the strategy to get the Guy? The hell out of here doesn't work. It's like Mike Tyson famously. Said and don't ever forget these words. If you look for finished you are not going to win a decision if you try for the knockout you will not win a decision. It's true you have to choose now over the Cagey veteran. That he was okay. Kid You came out here still this first round. Looks like you're going to do it. I'm just going to conserve my energy. That's what happened over through the first round away that will said he's got a full gas tank. I'm not sure Anthony. Win The second round to up to see what the judge is. I'm not sure that he did it. But by the third round there was just simply nothing left which is a simple as that. There was just nothing left. The biggest fear of combat athlete is not losing. His biggest fear is exhaustion. His biggest fear that he will find himself in combat where he needs to protect himself and he doesn't have the energy to do it when. Anthony was confronted with that not to mention her not to mention. He's in there with clover to A. Who's a straight UP HAMMER? A hammer from a different generation and he can no longer move because he's exhausted. Get them home get him home get him out of there he's not going to flick it. He had many opportunities to lift neck up two inches rear naked. Come in and get out of there. He's not going to do it. He had many opportunities to tell the referee. Tell the court he's not GonNa do it and it. Frankly it's not his job. There's other adults in the room. It was their job. Rothwell Noah's P. Was Interesting going in the big question was what is the tipping point on size. Rothwell barely makes the heavyweight limit. He's right up there at two sixty five. Os piece moving up from two hundred and five pounds and we have seen historically guys who move up we find out size. Advantage is not a real thing. It's a size disadvantage in. Generally the bigger guy will just get tired faster. The bigger guys a little bit of a target. That just can't move as fast and his power really never comes into play because he's also not as quick so he's never really able to land that big shot historically. We've seen this many times now. We've also seen many times where that rule doesn't apply tonight would be one of those examples. Look Rothwell was walking down regardless of Rothwell winning the fight I was more present Roth. What was the one pushing the pace? He was walking down. I've never thought a big Ben is a really fast guy. Apparently he's a pretty fast heavyweight because always P is anything but slow and Rothwell was getting off more than he was. Rothwell was getting into positions. Rothwell was smothering even on their feet. These to see when a guy gets on top when he's smothering he's quite literally covering you and holding you down as bellies over here his elbows over here and his knees on this and Rafa was doing on his feet. He was back in his cage. Come throw some at Rafa which just was smother them and take it. Rose got something known as a five finger choke. It looks very similar to a guillotine. Where's out front? He's got no arm involve both hands locked underneath your chin. And it's kind of rothwells position like if you're fighting Rothwell that's what you're going to study. And that's where you're not going to want to be be like the von flue choke is os piece positions. Just by example. Rothwell got to that position. Oh S. P. was well trained. Came right to the writ to hands on one tied up the rest of the finger so the Roth will get to his lock. Get to his position. And there's a very good fighters very competitive fight. I like at heavyweight. I also think in all fairness oh S. P. Gets a little bit of time at heavyweight. First Time doesn't count knows at some point you have to go out there and experience it. I don't think that is going to have a worse experience than he did tonight. And quite frankly regardless of the result was pitted. A very good job moved around real. Well I thought his kicks were on point. I thought his punches were on point. I don't think that any other heavyweight can smother like Rothwell any other heavyweight knows how to cut off the ring like Rothwell back you up absorbed shots just to throw some back. I just don't really see that within the heavyweight division. I do see that another way class. I don't see what the heavyweight division I think the OAS P. I hope that this experiment continues. I hope he stays at heavyweight. I saw very good heavyweight performance out of him but it was Benn's night Ben Rothwells a very good competitor and I don't feel that he always gets credit for that sometimes been is one of these guys that tries too hard and whenever you see a guy trying to do something you're able to identify it. Then that's kind of what sticks with you leave all the words and the gamesmanship and the show Michelle. Just look at that performance. Rothwell delivered very very well tonight. He did exactly what he needed to do. I get a heart opponent. Much as I'm telling you I don't think he's next opponent regardless of who it is. I don't think it's going to be as hard as when he tonight. I don't know that rothwells next opponent is going to be as hard as what he dealt with. Tonight he dealt with a very powerful very explosive smaller faster athlete. Os isn't athlete over again. This this was a college football star who had. Nfl aspirations decided to change course went over to May made it to the highest levels there to number one guy in the world championships very special opponent. Rothwell just smothered. I say some other because he's sworn broth what was really never had trouble. Sure he took some shots. Rothwell showing head movement was showing. Fakes faints groundwork rather showing a level of conditioning to push push. That was a great fight. A lot of fun watching that Alex Hernandez Andrew Dober-. Wow possibly fight of the night. We'll see we'll see how that goes after that main of all the things that happened there's going to be very hard to deny glow ver a performance of a bonus when you. WanNa talk about a fight of the night. It was very interesting to and for drew dober- in many ways it was a big coming out moment. Because we never knew the dober- was that tough. Did we go and watch dovers fights? You go handsome guy charismatic. Good Speaker Fun Style. But more than anything you can go. He's good that guy's good. There's a difference in good and tough and if you can ever bring those two together. Yeah something very special. Usually you only have to be one of the other. You can be better than everybody or you can be tougher than everybody either way. We'll take you to a goal battle when you're both of them. It's a very rare thing and I don't know that we ever knew that about Dobro. At least speak for myself I did not. I thought it was just really good by that. It was just a really good. He's got defense. He knows how to scramble backup to his feet. Should he ever be taken down and last place you want to be with him is on your feet? It's got a movie type background strong powerful guy and he's got a lot of weapons between the end. The knees elbows in the fist no turns out. Oh dovers a toughest an old other Buddhas well trained with every single days in their spark just doing some great stuff but I think we really got to see that tonight and I think that it was it was Alex brought that out of him because Alex is tough. You guys would know Alex. Mainly I mean he's he's had a great UC record but you probably have to go. Look it up the fight. You're really familiar with. Is that one time. He had Donald Cerrone and he did it look great he made. Donald Look great okay. Great put Donald over that night but Alex is great. Alice can go all night. Alex will put his chin out there. He'll touch your chin. He'll let you touch his. I mean he never went down and don't forget. This fight was stopped on their feet. Dober- swarmed him so bad. The referee had to step and while I was still as Alex down. Alex great but Alex gets a lot of credit for this. I just think we've talked about Dover. You're talking about a new contender. I can't imagine a scenario where he does a break into the top fifteen. But I'm not sure it's not a little bit closer to ten. I see him myself anywhere around nine to eleven now. One hundred and fifty. Five pounds is murderers row. Bela tour and the UFC. There is no weight class. Like one hundred fifty five pounds right now. There hasn't been for about four years. One fifty five has been the Pentacle if you can grab the strap at one fifty five. You've done something but I do think when we do look at that fight could Dover really really did come out in that regard. We all knew he was good. I just thought he was only good. I didn't know he was also tough. Ricky Simone and RAE board well. I don't know what's going on out there in Florida. I really don't and I'm happy that we have and I really don't like to be the guy that were that criticizes an official. I don't think I've ever been that guy and I don't WanNa be that guy but it is very hard to watch what's going on in Florida with the judging and not come back and at least scratch your head and if you go look at the Olympic for Verdun fight that could not have been any clearer two rounds to one for you. Go look at the the watterson fight. It was very clear who won the fight but one judge gave Watterson thirty twenty seven. She lost the fight. The two other judges give it to her opponent. They give thirty twenty seven. I mean it was just baffling. What are you guys watching? Then you come to Ricky. Simone and Ray Borg incredible contest. Ricky Simone is one of the best fighters these might teammate. In full disclosure one of the best fighters ever seen. I mean. He's a really talented guy. And I get to see things that you guys. Don't get to see him in the gym. I see the way he trains. I get to see the fact that he never backs down. Never never misses practice. Never takes around me guys. Just does everything right. He's never lady never leaves early but he's also wildly talented fantastic kickboxer but wrestling is his bread and butter. Then you look at emissions. He's fantastic on the ground. He knows how to pass gardens to submit people. He can protect himself at all times. Go see fight with Hania. He wasn't even close to getting submitted by one of the best grapplers to ever do the sport just by example very talented guy. So he comes out tonight. He's a little more explosive. He's got a little more pep in his step. He's got a little bit more power than I've seen before is growing. It's getting better. But Ray Bork. As a straight up killer. I'm Ray Bork. Great he fought the Beatrice for a world championship. Ray bork knows what he's doing he's also moved away class. Which I think is helpful to Ray Bork. I think one thirty five fits him better than one. Twenty-five does I think he was cutting a little bit too much weight. Didn't quite have energy. I thought they both look really great tonight. But if you watch that fight I had at thirty twenty seven. Ricky all three rounds to ricky and absolutely no scenario does he lose more than around which is exactly what two of the three judges thought. One judge had it thirty. Twenty seven Ray Bork. That's outrageous. That is absolutely ludicrous. It would take you back to pederson. Surani where Pettus does not believe. He won the fight and was awarded the fight if a principal in the fight. The Guy who's being awarded. I didn't win that fight. Then he didn't win the fight that would never happen. Nobody would ever say that. Just to be nice. You would only say that if you knew that you did not win the Oh and by the way you had a level of sportsmanship in class and dignity to yourself. I mean most times. You wouldn't even say then you would just take it and move on down the road and there's nothing wrong with that but in the rare occurrence where that does happen. It's evidence that something else happened with the scoring. Thirty Twenty seven Ray Board. When it doesn't matter the jail doesn't agree with you. You're to licensed co hearts. Don't agree with you. They agree with each other which is what the rest of the world saw which was a fighter saw twenty nine twenty eight which is how they scored it. It was confusing. I was a little bit confused by that John. Jones comes out and said to Franson Gano. The makers don't work on me. Send the contract now. There's a lot to unpack there. There really is because the quote that I just gave you came out about two hours ago but if I was to backup seventy two hours ago I could give you a difficult by John Jones where he said look. I'll do the heavyweight thing but give me a catchweight from my first time. Make It to twenty. GimMe Somebody in the middle. Let me test the waters. I understand. He's never going to get that catchweight. I understand that's not going to happen when you have a champion Jon Jones if he's GonNa Leave One Championship. Google fight for another championship. I understand those things but I do think that John is still giving us a message and the message is pretty clear. It's also very fair by the way if you want me to go take this risk. One that I don't want to take I am doing this because I'm being asked to let me test the waters one time if that's where his mindset was fast forward three small days and all of a sudden not only is he willing to go to heavyweight against the scariest heavyweight out there. He's also willing to take on the largest man in the division and got just wait in four days ago and he weighed in at two sixty one with a limit of two sixty five plus one. He's the limit five pounds off. He's the limit you get it. He is the limit not to mention the right way so it was just. It's really tough to know what John Wants by listening to John. It's really tough most fighters. It's pretty it's pretty easy. You go listen to him okay. Here's what he wants to do. Let's navigate within the confines. See what works for everybody which John. It's very tough went on Sunday. He wants to two twenty pounder and come Thursday. He was the biggest guy in the division. I got no problem with it. I'm just saying there's not a whole lot of things that we can allow hold of John. Jones fight particularly John J-o-h-n opinion because John Gel doesn't have an opinion. It just keeps changing. That's a hard fight for in Ghana. I will tell you right now. That's a hard fight for in Ghana and Ghana has one way to win a fight. It's a very exciting way in. It's very impressive and I would even call it frightening as a compliment. I A frightening style which is to come out wrong. Knock everything down in his path like a tornado. Look around all the trees are okay. That's one way to get your hands for sure but if you look at John Jones Kuwait Judge John Jones. Got Everywhere to win a fight that there possibly is. John go five rounds no prompt plenty of times. John Jones can win by Tko. He'll stretch your arm out. He'll choke your neck. He'll knock you down. I mean John Jones can win fight every single possible way that there is so when you're looking at that fight is pretty straightforward if you're picking and Ghana then you're saying God who's GonNa Knock Out John Jones real simple. John Jones has never been knocked down. Let alone knocked out now. You can counter that argument by saying well. He's never fought. Anybody like got up. You'd be one hundred percent true hundred percent correct all I am offering for you is. That's a hard fight. Foreign Gano if you think that John Jones is going to take on it and God and he's just GonNa get ran over. That's just that's not what you're going to see particularly with the master of space. John John's very long. You have a lot of guys that are very long. But they don't know how to use their length. You talk about a reach advantage even if that comes down to the legs which never does get discussed them it. But that's a very real thing particularly when you're talking about John. He's not only got this incredible wingspan he's credible lengthen his legs. He'll kick you from across the ring. Hey you ready. You ready boom. You just got kicked in the leg by John Jealous. He will do these things. John will not just come out and think he has to shoot and taking gone down. Get John we'll go out and trade within Ghana that's just who he is and he's great at protecting himself and he's great at using the reach. I'm just offering for you while I do not believe we're going to see that fight immediately. I do think that it's very real talk that John Moves. Up to heavyweight at some point. I think it was more real talk five months ago when there was just nobody to fight in the two hundred five pound division. That was interesting. If you're John. There's nobody that was interesting. All of a sudden there's interest all over the place I mean all I'm not sure that glover just didn't become interesting again in a rematch. Obviously Dominic raises their one problem that John is going to have by not agreeing to raise and then calling out and Gano one problem he's going to have is. He's not going to look courageous for calling for in Ghana. He's not because if they offer him a contract he not gonNA sign it. So that's a little bit of a catch twenty two. He's playing a risky game of. I'm going to say it and then I'm not going to ever be asked to do it. Okay great play that one myself. All the great. What's on a byproduct going to happen is? It's going to look like he really will do anything to get away from. Dominic Reyes and John's even come out and said look I haven't duct anybody and I will fight raise but the USC needs to make the risk worth the reward. Which is you gotta give me some more money. It doesn't work like that particularly in the time that we're in right now where they have openly lost one arm of their business which is alive gate for anybody to come in and try to negotiate right now is a scum bag move when you're in an organization and times are tough you back organization you do whatever is asked of you above and beyond you do not come in looking for yourself when you can openly turn your head left and right and see what our business has gone. I mean it's just a wrong thing to do. You're not going to be able to do it. You're not in a position to do it. They're not in a position to accommodate. But now you're showing your hand of who you are which is a very selfish guy. A selfish prick who might have a little case of the stupid. I mean you'd have to have a little bit of a case of the stupid to come in and ask for money on a company who publicly just got a loan to bridge between this time and the next time when things get back on track a company whose president has gone out and spoke publicly. Said our biggest star conor. Mcgregor may have to wait until this thing's over because I don't want to give up a twenty million dollar game with when all of the closer right in front of you and then you go and ask for more money. You might have a little case of the stupid Greg. Hardy had a fight over the weekend. And they were asking about the fight right in the Joe Rogan interviewing them right in the ring and Greg Hardy said something really cool cool and that it was really interesting and it was very honest and he said you know I could hear Daniel Cormet commentating on the fight and I started to take advice and I made adjustments in Greg. Hardy was telling the truth he was just being a real candidate. Open guy now. That is a tremendous compliment. I mean tremendous to Daniel. I hope that may Daniel feel good if that did not make Daniel good than he misinterpreted. Great Hardee's words because that has come on. I heard announcer. Who by the way happens to be the number one contender by the way in the division that I met a fellow heavyweight out of respect to his mind and his knowledge and the vision of what he's having I started to listen and change my game plan from what he said? Is there a bigger compliment? That great could have inadvertently handed Daniel. I don't think so now. I'm not sure Daniel did here. At the right way turned out. There was two other fighters believe this or not to other fighters came out. Said the same thing. They weren't in the same weight class but they said I could hear Daniel. Now that's a respect like possibly has never been shown in these whole times that we're in right now. Daniel came out and spoke on it though and Daniel said hey I gotta start keeping my voice down or we need to go into a different room. We needed to call this from a modder in a different room. I only bring that to you because I think perhaps Daniel missed the compliment. These being handed Daniels done nothing wrong. The athletes did nothing wrong. I mean this. This is a knife that cuts both ways. Both guys can hear it. Both guys have an opportunity to have. I guess what you're calling it an extra cornerman. I mean essentially are treating them like it Cormon. If anybody got disrespected here it was. There wasn't Daniel Daniels getting this huge compliment but it does beg the question. What do you do moving now in? My opinion is real cut and dry. You don't do anything anytime. There's nothing to see her guys calling. It turns out the audiences quiet. What's that got to do with anything? The audience is full guys calling a fight. You don't hear do hear what if you're smaller show? There's still regulated by the same commissions. A lot of those smaller shows have poor attendance generally. They don't have an announcer to the caliber of Daniel Corman. But I'm just saying it's same. Same you hear a guy and you choose to go if you have a parent in the front row or a friend or a fan or some stranger and you hear how you know what I'm saying. You have the right to hear different things. I will tell you. Coaching coaching can be a very interesting thing from the Corner K. When you're a huge arena with fourteen thousand screaming people at the end of the night. After there's been a couple of couple of beverages going around it can be very hard for your athlete to hear. You can't possibly screaming louder. You get in the back and you can barely talk your raspy. Your Voice is gone. And then you're frustrated that you're athlete didn't respond to what you're doing you're athletes were so. I couldn't I couldn't hear you on the other side of the cage anytime I heard you. I listened respect. Couldn't hear you coach. Okay that's fair. I mean that's just the way it is. There's no way around that. Okay now. Let's take the other side of the coin. Which is your in an empty pill. Ou's myself for example. A personalizes but on the ultimate fighter the ultimate fighter. This is exactly what you go through you. Walk in there Red Corner Blue Corner coaches coach here. Everything and that can be a little bit weird the sound of your own voice while giving instruction can be a very weird thing. There's some parts what we think. I don't want everybody to hear this. This is private am I. Am I saying the right things? Do I sound like a fool. You're still a human being. You still got some of these self conscious attributes and aspects that. Come with it. That's very real. I would just tell you this. If Daniel thinks dangle needs to be in a different room or Daniel believes he needs to lower his voice I would strongly disagree first off Daniel was complemented he was. They were showing him respect to the highest levels for who he is and what he's achieved and his knowledge of the sport but secondly Daniel does have a job to coach and a full empty arena. Daniel does have a job to coach. He's coaching you. He's coaching viewer. He's coaching the audience. He's coaching the Little Old Lady in Iowa who's never seen the sport before he's educating as to what the nuances are. And what's happening? He's predicting whether the guy is going to go left. Go Right. That guy's GonNa push hips and get his head up. Get his arm out. He's coaching and then he's also trying to predict what the manipulation is what position they're looking for. What combinations work so Daniel is a coach? That's true but there's nothing inappropriate with that and if somebody is smart enough conscious enough observant enough to hear him. Adapt like say Greg Hardy. That's fair-play Walt Harris. Oh my goodness I have lost sleep. I have lost sleep for Walt Harris. I've never met him but I feel like I know him and I feel like I've known him for a number of years. It's just the way the business works. I know five people who all know him. He knows five people who know me. But I've never met. It's one of these things put. You're part of that too right. If a guy comes to a camera for guy goes into this kind of profession where he's out there he's in the world is in your mind's eye he's in your living room if it's on. Tv You do have a relationship on some level on some level you are connected. And he does his job to make sure that you're connected now when I talk about Walton reason I tell you I've lost sleep over him. So Waltz. Step daughter goes missing and this isn't all that long ago guys. This was within the last calendar year. This whole thing came. I WANNA say it was winter time of of last year right around December January November. Not a lot of time has passed and she went missing and this was a a national search and it largely became a national search because Dana White got involved in a number of waltz peers got involved and they found her and they found her body. She was she. She was deceased very very heavy stuff but I share that with you because it is very relevant as he goes into this contest and all fairness it plays right over into his career. Same if that happened any of you and then you gotta get up and go to work. I mean you deal with depression. You're dealing with tough spot. You're also dealing with some frustration anger and when you have emotions as strong as frustration and anger how are you? GonNa Channel that most. Every coach was ever got involved with the sport ever at the youth level largely did that. It doesn't matter if it soccer tennis or wrestling or basketball one. Make any difference most every coach. Who gets involved at the youth level gets involved because they see people within their community who have frustration and anger. They have somewhere that they needed outlet. The number one thing that a coach can do is not to teach you a sport. The number one thing a coach can do is to share with you a skill and send you home tired more than anything. They will take you off the streets know where you are and when you go home. You're too tired to do anything. That's why every single sport has an element of condition a lot of athletes. Don't understand that a lot of athletes so this sport it's all about Canadian. I gotta I gotTa get these sprints in and get my lungs up. That's what we will lead you to believe when you were a young man. The real game that is being played there. We are going to make sure that whatever energy you have whatever ants you have in your pants get taken out and stay in this room. Stay on this field or stay on this court. That's the real game there. The reason I share this with you even in professional athletics. Even when you're dealing with a grown man like Walt. There is a very big question of. How is he going to use this frustration and anger? How is he going to use? That emotion is going to eat them. Up is going to freeze. Him is going to unlock something now. Walt himself came out and said after what I have been through. There is no man who can hurt me. You will never know the pain of what I have been through and therefore I do not need to worry about the pain of another man. That's that's a very real statement. And what kind of. Guy Walt is. Wall passes the test either. Way Won't getting up out of bed. Moving forward training making the weight and walking with her with rain. Regardless of the outcome walters being tested and he has passed the test. Should he go out and have a performance? Should it be a real thing like he is saying where I do not have to have fear anymore? I will never feel the pain like the pain. Felt if that is a very real thing and if that is what happens then even more power to walt but I have a couple of narratives coming I may. Maybe this is the real point of me talking about this. I heard a narrative. Come out that bothered me. The narrative was very simple. But it was about Walt and the character that he has and then directly tying that to the outcome of this contest. That's the part I got to push back on. No the mere fact that walt can get out of bed in the morning to prepare for his job regardless of what his job happens to be whether you think this is a cool job or a hard job or somewhere in between doesn't matter the mere fact that he is pushing for preparing GonNa go try going to go. Try his best. Does that lead him towards a victory that keep them in the nothing to do with anything? Waltz had a tough year in a tough business and he's moving forward. That's WHO WALT is. Walter there's any test out there waltz already pass it now guys. Look at it from the side. How would you like to be over? You know? Full well through it breaks your heart you a good ending for this guy. You do not want to bring any more pain into this guy's here then he's already been through you. Don't want to but it's your job to over now. Being tested over him has to overcome these things and I realized they're vastly different vastly different but to make believe that ovary ms in a good spot. Imagine over goes out there. Starches Wall knocks him out is going to throw his hands up. Jump up on the fence go call somebody out. Who saw him no man? That's going to be this terrible moment. It's one of these really weird spots. We saw something very similar to this one time. Jake Ellen Berger fought jake shields and within the week of the fight. Jake's father passed away and I want to say and I might be adding this to the I want to say like Jake was already in town for fight week and his father gets rushed to the hospital passes away and Jason this limbo of what do I do. And he moves for the vitamin E. Even if I hadn't adding that in time was very close so now Ellen Berger whose heartbreaking for Jake shields has to go out there and fight shields. Oh and by the way Ellen Burger knocks amount anything. Jake go celebrate that. It's just a very tough spot and I think that what we owe to. Walt isn't that we cheer for him to go beat up over him. Well you had a hard year and therefore you know go hurt this. That's not like that at all. I think we need to just understand. What a tough spot. He's in the fact that he's getting up and moving forward is nothing short of inspirational. I mean that's an inspiring story. We know plenty of people and maybe even done in some walk ourselves or something bad happens. World's a big place we get stuck in the crack we get stuck in the crack and we go and become a bad guy on whatever level that might mean that could mean drugs that could mean alcohol that could mean just not fulfilling our responsibilities and our obligations that we have made whatever it is we get stuck in the crack but we can always turn it identified. Anybody that calls us on us. What got us there well. Yeah sure I'm doing this that and the other thing but let me tell you what happened to me. That's a very real thing. It's not what did and what we owe this fight as fans you are not compelled to cheer for Walton. Have you cheer for Alastair? It doesn't mean that you're a jerk and insensitive. Walt went through. That's not what it is at. Walt Harris is being tested but guys regardless of the outcome wall Harris already has passed the test. Let's talk a little glow to share a here and so from a personal standpoint. I was so bothered by that contest and I was bothered that he and Anthony. Smith wasn't stopped. I felt as though as far as the skills and the rules of the sport. And you're just going out to find out who who's better on that specific night. I felt as though glover had proved his point twelve minutes prior to the end of the contest. It bothered me a lot. But let's set that aside and let's just focus on glow just for a second here because the guy deserves a ton of praise. He took a beating from Anthony Smith in the first five minutes. He took a beating in the first eight minutes of the fight and fairness I believe he lost both rounds but without question look there's no he was going to get stopped in the first round. He was able to weather that and he was able to keep his focus and he was ready to cart metalized and come back in the next round something. That's very hard to do in. Sports is to put what has already happened behind. You and just think about the moment of right now. It is very hard to not think about what already. How Cam down around and I got to win this round just to get even got to win another round just to get ahead and then we got two more after that. It's very hard to not do that. It's very hard to not think about what's next but you just live in. The moment is what every sports psychologist will try to get. Their athletes do regardless of sport. They could be an any game out there. Stay in the moment. It's very hard to G- overdid it. Kluber is very seasoned. He's very experienced and he's in very good shape now. I have my experience with over and I'd like to go back to this glovas in shape business but when I would go out to. Espn there in Bristol. Connecticut Glow. Glover is right up the road. I'm trying to think of the name Waterbury. He's of Waterbury Connecticut. It's about an hour drive little bit less but nick. Newell had an open his Jim yet in Connecticut. The only Jim there was was governed by the way grover. Same sizes me so I call it blower. Hey can I come? Train says absolutely gives me. The address is the time so I go into his gym and I can't find my right where the. Gps tells me to go but it's at a storage unit. I mean they're in storage lockers. Go over I can't find this place I'm stuck at such and such storage and he goes. No no you're here. You're here come outside and find you so comes out of finds me and we go through this door Eh. He's quite literally taking a storage unit. You know where you go store your boxes or park a car storage unit. He took two of them moved. A wall made it a gym so I mean it was totally private. You would never find the thing. You would never be bothered there. You would never think there was a gym there. You get inside. He's got a heating unit. He's got a little cage wall he's got the Matt's he's got the bags and then he's got some cardio equipment. I mean this thing was the perfect gem. It was the perfect dream. Jim Just enough room and you know when you're in somewhere like Waterbury Connecticut. Even if you're a star like glow ver you still are going to train with who you can train with. And you're going to be coached by who you can be coached by. It's not a hotbed for is. I'm trying to make a hotbed. And I think over ended up there had something to do with his wife got married and I think she got a job and all of a sudden. He's in Waterbury Connecticut. But he's making it work finds himself a space finds himself equipment. Lets people know he's in town? The old expression from Kevin Costner build it. They will come very real thanks. I'm in the room and overnight for sure the veterans in the room. A lot of young guys eighteen in nineteen twenty and guys have all sizes governor going rounds out there Guys that are hundred thirty five pounds. We're going around with guys at one hundred and seventy five pounds. We're going rounds guys. One Hundred Ninety Pounds. But we're for sure the the bigger guys in the room. But there's something very special that you can get with going with guys of other sizes. I've always thought it was a misconception of your heavyweight workout with heavyweights your to five hundred workout to five minutes. No sometimes you wanNA feel that speed of a smaller guy. Sometimes you want to feel that power of a bigger guy. I am fully convinced that the ultimate workout room. You'll have guys you can whip you guys that can push you and you will have guys can whip you but you need all three of them and a lot of guys will get in the pool of. I only WANNA go with guys. Who can wit me going in there and taking a beating every day is going to make better. That's not totally true. If you don't have somebody where you can go out and execute your techniques on you will learn to lose over time if you go to practice every day and you lose you will learn to lose so you want to have those days. Where have success where your the hammer and somebody else's the nail is sometimes it's to hammers and sometimes you're the nail and there you just want to mix it around a little bit. I thought that Glover's Jim had done a great job of that is such a great experience at his gym and he said to me and he and I didn't really know each other. We just knew each other because of the space in fact I didn't even go through grover. I went through Ed Soros. Who contacted me with George whose Ed's partner George goes to glover and so when I walk in. This is The Hague lover. I'm Kelly I know. I'm clover okay. And he said to me before I left he said. Hey Sonnen said you. I wanted appreciate it very much if you went and talked trash about my gym you know. I know that's your stick. I know that's something you like to do. But this is my gym and I I would not that would not make me feel very good. I felt terrible when he said it first off I would. I would ever do that as no glover. I got a cold now. Talk I talk about guys. I'm GonNa go find guys that are helping me train. But secondly great Jim. I love that. He took a storage unit. I loved that he redid it. I love it. It was this old school feel. I love there wasn't all the SAUNAS and the showers and the folded up towels at the front desk and a little juice bar in the court. I loved Glover's. Jim was share with you. Every JIM has a philosophy. And some as you know. Get to the clinch in some is get on top and some of these you master. Your Guard. Every JIM has a philosophy. Clovers gems philosophies very simple work hard work hard whoever's in there and whatever the exercise is you go to the hardest of your ability to once we get done with the work that we would then go over and get on conditioning equipment. Colver was really into the Rose know those Roma she bent Ford at the back and shoulder and it also get your heart rate up and I was on the air bike. There was a treadmill in there. And we would rotate we would rotate but everybody's exhausted. This is at the end of the workout. So whatever you can give on those aparatus. That's really solidifying. If you held anything back during your rounds get it all out. Now leave there where you can barely walk out the door. You're dragging your so tired. That's one of those moments and that's what we were me and everybody else in their glover's over there giving chance this little prick. He's doing the rose which is a very hard machine. If you ever do rose and you do it I mean if you do the ro machine right I mean it will get your heart rate up. He's over there giving chants and wanted us to chat with them. You know I love my job. I'm so fortunate. Thank you Lord. He's doing we're supposed to do it back and it's his GM so then we have to do is like I'm fighting for air over here man. I don't know how you're over there singing a song great experiences there. Guy Worked. Hard Guy was focused if you go and look at what he did with air. They don't forget Anthony. Smith is the top choice to go fight for a world championship any night. It's why he was chosen and went and fought for world championship so when global can go out there and show some positions particularly dealing with it. I mean that's where the real fight comes. It's not dealing with the man in front or even deal with the voices in your own head. Can you deal with adversity? Everybody can be good with the punches and kicks until their punched kicked back. Can you deal with that and push forward if you can? You are a fighter. If you can't you're an aggressor there's a big difference of being an aggressor and being a fighter. Clover is a fighter. All right guys. Let's call it there. We Got Harris. We ream. That's going down tomorrow. I have got to get over to watch the WAYANS ON. Espn plus enjoy your weekends. Everybody I won't be back on Wednesday as will you can tell that up jail son and you are welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan download new episodes every week at August. One DOT com. That's podcast oh any DOT com.

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EP 16 - BECOMING THAT LEGEND with Curt Flaitz & Ryan Flaitz (Co-Founders of PSD Underwear)

LightHarted Podcast with Josh Hart

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EP 16 - BECOMING THAT LEGEND with Curt Flaitz & Ryan Flaitz (Co-Founders of PSD Underwear)

"Aw I'm not that type of doing score hundred percent. I need to face the call this one dangerous welcome everybody to another episode lighthearted podcast heart podcast. Ask another. You'RE GONNA have gamers athletes going to have businessmen moments. I would say that probably was really impact. Pack ruling as a child and nobody ever talked about it like I never you know light-hearted. Welcome everybody to another episode of the light-hearted. PODCAST I am your gracious host their home in and I have have my brother here with me your new best friend Josh Heart. Oh and you know there's a big one. I started it off. I'm happy about that good joe on increased responsibility. I like it. Mom Mom if you're listening. I hope you're proud of me uh-huh but we'll welcome everyone. we going buddy. My dogs leaving me my dog. I was sitting next to me the whole day today because my parents are in town and Matt as you know and I'm sure listeners do not know my dog does not like my dad so oh out every time it's bad is so every time she likes everybody. Modeste so she sits there like she'll growl at them like like an occasional Asia Barak. She doesn't do anything but that's about it so she can sit with me this whole time. My Dad went to bed and she's just outside of like outside the doorway. They go like that connects to the hallway meets their door. That's where the guestroom news and she's just sitting there growling. I'm just like like come on now but said welcome everyone to to heart a podcast presented by Van Melvina by van Mo- It's been a good fourteen episode so far packed with a lot of different people. I think we've we've been trying to give you guys life. A good variety of guests obviously we know a lot of athletes in so you know there's been a a bunch of athletes on tried to make sure we get entrepreneurs CEO's owner or company founder of the companies and that kind of thing but I think today that it'd be a really good gaff but before we get into that one of the congrats to our winter last week butcher nameless I know you you gotta get it right this. She didn't say her name and her video. She posted its Sherry Stab Shiri cyb. Okay Well Yeah Congratulations Sherry. I said Sheri's Deeb a desert. I mean got the first name right so I mean I get a little bit of credit but yet the I last name added to be in there. It's okay. I thought it was being there now. The second second be it's the beef sounds. Kinda cool congrats the her it was cool to see the video that she posted of her work in and just kind of saying thank you to us and that was kind of cool just obviously we partnered with them to be because that's the brand that we feel view we aligned with very well but they also share the same values of giving back to others so that you know always fun to do. a kind of just hope you know do something. Nice for the people support US I of M. Oh Oh I saw like you know. We've been blessed that the podcast is has picked up some traction and again it wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't be where it is without you guys but you know we've been blessed like A. Lotta articles have come out and you know Forbes and like we've been in publications that we didn't expect to be at this point but just seeing that video was like one of the coolest things for us because we really just want to impact people and we want to share stories and inspire and give back and you know just just thank thank you guys. Is it really means you know thank you for rocking with us and listening and you know we're. GonNa continue to improve and you know hopefully one day. This will be the biggest podcast in the world. Then you guys will be able to say you were here early. Definitely like we we want. We want to grow with you. We want you guys to grow with us. So this park started off very well and you know we're we're excited to come but with all that being said kind of giving. Can you guys an update on the lives of Josh in Matt. I guess I'll go first with saying I'm not. I really don't think nothing's really changed for me. I mean we we did a I Live podcast the Fried Chicken Festival suicide note with the CEO and owner cashier and fry cook todd grave of raising cane's that the National Fried Chicken Festival which was crazy gusts as far chicken to me was the best there Bright Fabra. I'm still so full bro that was far and Josephine's chicken sandwich bro like I was a big. I I love chick fillet. Oh you chicken sandwich but like I don't know Josephine's might be better than it was crazy to me was not I was one of the coolest experiences and it just it just felt so new Orleans like I don't know it was just it was down home. You know nothing too fancy. Just good people good food like it was just fun. Music Nick like it was exactly what you want yeah definitely so I think actually opened up down here in New Orleans. They just opened up but if you didn't guesses started in Memphis so make sure you guys get some of that. I think Josephine's isn't Jackson Mississippi so it makes you guys you guys live there or having a path by makes you hit those spots because it's fire how'd you how'd you feel about the live. podcast I know is our first one when I was were you nervous at all. I know you do a lot more public appearances. Idea was it but you know it's different. It's different when you're doing your. I live podcast. There's no script you know if you mess up. Everyone sees it now really nervous. I was this for me. It was just so much stuff going on. Obviously it was this is kind of like a festival sort of within there. were talking with drinking wine then they're bringing you know bring in a bunch of different chicken and you know variations of chicken two chicken sandwich with like a homemade biscuit we that wing it was fire. there was something else. I forgot what it was. I forgot what it was but oh district donut they brought yeah so it would bring us up and then you had people people walking by the one girl I was trying to get my attention. You fine okay well. Let me kind of continue to view then there was music in the background of Glasson awesome just in them like there's no way this sound is gonna come out well but I actually did. I came. I got shot up Shannon Miles for hooking ended up once again from across the country exactly you could never give miles enough credit. I mean if known I'm going taking a quick vacation. this Wednesday so Thursday the next you know tomorrow I guess for my listeners to came in. I'm kind of just getting down there. I think the biggest thing for me. It was just like you know what this is our last weekend before. I was training Camp Starts Media Day ended to start at NBC's and some like you know what let me just go somewhere and just get away from basketball and just get away from all that because of the year so long there's so many ups and downs and whatever team you're on up and down so do the only that diversity so I was like you know what up let me just get away from all this for good three four days and just relax and is live. Macbeth life so I am very excited so in when drops maybe like twenty four hours. You may see me on the beach now. You've got a beach workout in thirty six hours. I don't know my I've thought about I don't know I'm I'm definitely going to do some work because like Ag. He wants us to run up and down as fast as we possibly can so. I gotTa make sure those three or four days I guess some type of condition cardio an before to start a training camp goes not might be rough. Yeah do alot run on the beach every morning little swim in the ocean and get your cardio in 'cause you know you can't you can't go into training camp. I am coming off a three day vacation not true I I've. I'm probably GONNA go no. I'm not a big ocean guy but I'm not a big ocean guy because I don't like not ah the ocean like obviously an la what the Pacific Ocean and it was just. I don't like being in water that I cannot see the bottom of so for me. I don't like obviously is not. GonNa Happen But hey. I don't know there could be a shark there. If it's not a shock it could be like a little see the What do they call it. A little joins. I got a little prickly progressed Jones. Yes urchin sort of could be a sea urchin Russian. I could like step on. ABC see like the Little Bikes Goma football focus cut. I can't walk right. You know what I mean so I just think about the injury report right now bro steps on Sierra that happened we were in we were in Hawaii for Nova. We played well. We got apple really by Oklahoma after that we kind of had like the the next day or like a couple hours kind of just go and do whatever it was either before before after the game but Jalen walked into the water and stepped on a C. urgent any like cut the bottom of this so I'm like you. You know what that's scary to me. You know I want to be able to see everything that's in the water so luckily I'm going to the Caribbean and I can actually see what's what's the bottom of the Cedars Shark Comb Jellyfish. I Dunno whatever it is. I can see it before it happened. I don't know if I could do anything and the day a swim but I'm not fat. I'm not Michael Phelps out here so I don't know if I could get away but at least I could see this. It's not going to be a surprise tries to me so you're not gonna be swimming out in the BIOS. No no not at another close the Dow gator dumbest thing yeah eight eight by gator and I I don't know my contract covers eaten by gator's so I dunno questions yeah I mean there's a lot I wanNA talk about but I've been I've been seeing all over twitter the Hashtag we be. WB Won't bow down I mean which would did you guys are doing right now. How you're tapping into the city and embracing it and you know really acknowledging how much New Orleans has been through and how you know. The way you guys play is going to be an extension of that like you know. It's just you guys are the teams doing a great job of really getting the community. You know rallied around what you guys are doing with the wall down yeah. No of a great brainchild of Griff and Trajan and swindon did a great job with that motto because I think it really speaks to not just a franchise but like you said the city obviously a new one had a lot of tragedy tragedy just in whatever what is that you know Katrina or just the weather down here or killing it expanded. Is it beyond the court and that's something that we want to Be You know be like we want to be a blue-collar team that we go in there. Are we compete. We grind it out and you know we find a way to make it through and I think that's the biggest thing that we WANNA do why won't bow down a kind of came about with just those kind of characteristics and I think we have a great team that buy into that that are already like that and when you have a lot of hiking the people that play that way that the breeze success so we're very excited about that. I think definitely exciting for this city in food franchise where we're headed and I think that's a modern I was going to stay with us for a long time. I love it. I can get into a little bit about what I've been up to through to be honest with me. I'm exhausted. I you know I flew down there to do the the live show with with todd and I was there for all of like eighteen eighteen hours seven. AM flight out of La to get into New Orleans. I left New Orleans the next morning on seven. AM flight to come to La.. which was you know? I got back Monday morning so yesterday and then this morning I flew. I was on another seven. AM played. I had to go up to San Francisco to speak on a panel and then I just flew back to l. a. same night and then I have to go to San Diego this weekend for twits gone and then on Sunday after going to Minnesota for the Timber Wolves Media Day. Yeah that is makes you get your your frequent flyer miles like I'm trying to get my fluids my vitamin C. All this travels eaten eaten of Emmy pedialyte man. Get Your electrolytes a banana that the panel today was was really cool. Actually you know they asked a lot about the podcast asked which was great and you know. It seems like people are not just fans but it seems like people in the industry are really taken notice what we're doing that was that was great and I was able to speak a lot about you know some of the work that you and I are doing and then everything that I'm doing a cut and so so it was it was a cool chance to just you know being a room full of great people and talk about talk about everything. That's going on not as cool man. That was wasn't your first panel but that's one of off. You know you done one or two panels before but got kind of just talk about you know that process of being a panelist and just kind of nervous. Were you anxious. WHOA we'll go on yeah. I mean I wouldn't say I was nervous but when you you're about to do do something like that. You care a lot about even if you've done it before. You still get like butterflies. That was kind of that situation honestly I. The only thing I can compare it to is like back when I was like hooping competitively in high school and college. It was the same feeling I would get before a game. You know it's like you've done it before. You know you can do it. You know you're great at it but you still get that feeling and that's that's that's. That's how it was an honestly. I've been looking for that feeling. I've been looking for like stuff. That makes me feel that way so I feel like I work really hard what I do for for the chance to have opportunities like this so it was it was not it was it was really fun. I'm glad I had the opportunity so hopefully awfully many many more. Maybe maybe you and I'll said on one sometime soon some point with the with the season yeah the be well. We got up. We'd definitely gotTa do alive alive. PODCAST down to New Orleans for the fans Senate will do whatever I was I was sharing. I was on the panel with the one of the guys who is really high up in sports at Lincoln and he said the word around the Lincoln Office. Everyone says you are their most active and and favorite athlete on the platform. Oh well thank you guys toby. A mob business ish off the court. I love it. I love it. We should you want to get into some art do and then. We're going to announce the winner because I I know your asses where it's twelve forty over there. Yep you're going to get to bed question for the both of you if this is by the way to take a step back appreciate everybody who is asking questions via van Mo.. That's the new way we're going to be taking questions so send us a penny first first of all friend us on. Atlanta hurt podcast. Send us a penny. That's all you gotta do just a penny. Ask us a question in the payment note and then we will read out our favorite ones to them and then we're going to take all the money at the end of the season and we're going to donate it to charity so don't worry we're not keeping your pennies. question for the both of you if basketball was not in your lives. What do you think you'll be doing right now. I know what you'd be doing. Josh Mood Dope Mountains good. I was GONNA say it'd be a professional Gamer Gamer but I don't know I would. I WOULD WANNA be but I I don't know if I can do it. Lake like that grinds to crazy gaming gaming contact creator yeah. I'll definitely be the content creator side because I'm not like I'm competitive but I don't. I don't WanNa be disturned at USC actually other. I don't WanNa just be staring at a screen constantly raging aging into an etc but I do that now anyway so but I don't. I don't know if I want to do a competitively. I'd definitely be like a content creator for that and and they'll probably be but it sounds like a pretty good. Life sounds like a great life. Honestly I don't. I don't think I would be doing much different than what I'm doing now. I basketball is definitely a big part of my life because it's a passion and you know we do a lot of stuff together but for the most part the work that I do isn't necessarily dependent on basketball awards we mostly work with big brands and help them on the marketing side and you know I'm definitely able to take my great relationships basketball and accelerate that but but it's it's not it's not really basketball dependent. It's like a coach or a basketball agent or anything like that so I don't see myself doing too much different. Josh Josh who has been the most difficult player you you've ever had to guard Matt for you to Harden. Harden Harden blesses yeah he he's. He's very skilled. He he very deceptively strong. People don't realize how people people think he's fat. He's not he's a little fat but like he had a very strong lower body that but he also like he I've never seen anyone manipulate the game like I mean he does. so much in terms of Ozzie he flops a little bit and but he gets the calls but he definitely just his skill set. WHO's the I say he's the most difficult person I've had a guard too. I don't really know I can name Some people that I mean you. You know you're hard to guard your yard the garbage in practice once I figured out that job will spend it was it wasn't as but I'll just leave it at that and I didn't even say that person's name that was Rene Saavedra. Thanks for Dominique Saint. Why do you think more than ever today. It's important for athletes to have control over their careers question out. I would say I guess now there's so many different avenues and so many different area. Maria passions on and kind of be outspoken about and I think a part of that and most of that really because social media and the the growth of that and which leads to the growth of these teams in the NBA etc so obviously social ills growing NBA growing at a rapid pace. He's growing at a rapid pace also but I think you know it. It's important is because no you Wanna you. You WanNa have control over your destiny and no always funny for me because it's always looked at you. Never Oh no for us. We're we're never looked really like the good guy because you know we're. I think we're in a lose lose situation in certain aspects because you know say if we wanted to leave agency and we leave us like Oh man this guy the trader he did it. He did that but then on the flip side. You know if you get traded. It's like Oh. They did with Beth for the franchise so it's like you. Have that need a double standard so I think this is you know about taking control of your of your reality of your life and just kind of going where you WanNa go and doing that. I don't think you know everyone go about it the right way but I think that's what you're going to start seeing more as players take their own life and their own careers and paths afs into their own hands which I think I'm pulling for yeah and say all the time that that basketball is a business and it is and I think oh you know more and more players have started to put themselves I which is healthy and they they need to right. It's it's very easy to try and please everyone around on you and stuff like that but you know there's guys who who now are are making you know free agency decisions and they're deciding where they wanna go just based on you know what makes. I'm happy. I remember in in our episode with Larry. He was just like I'm happy in Cleveland like I love it here. I think you know I think that's a new a new era of players is really starting to prioritize their happiness and their mental health and and really taking control over their destiny like you said so Mitchell Woodward. What is your favorite memory together. who goes into the sentiments. I'm not a very sentiment probably when we both graduated college. I probably will say that one fine where I went I went to. La You had came to Pittsburgh Yeah. I think that was that was Qaddafi does a huge achieve and Mazda Motor or leising. You know we did that together. So you know of course the apart. We'll say that yeah. Graduating high school was was cool together honestly when we want low key my favorite memories when we won the match yet yeah junior junior year. I think you know software softly softly like the first year of Jim whatever doings called Dallas fire and and then also low key another amazing memory is when we beat Gonzaga senior year 'cause we're not not supposed to beat them and Kris Jenkins was supposed to give you the work ranked word top fifteen top ten country at that point yeah good yeah that was fun. it's funny. Oliver Memory Basketball Let's let's congratulate this week's winner of the van. Mo One thousand dollar gateway the moment that you all are waiting for you've been suffering through our banter for about twenty five minutes now just so you can find out if you won the money or not in some of you probably even fast forwarded and that's kind of smart. was this week's lighthearted podcast giveaway presented by seven mile. I guess we've got to get a better. GotTa get a better name giveaway but anyway nope this. Week's winner is my man. Manny smalls so easy no name. Brow shot shout out the Miami smallest for being our forth winner I think so yes shadow to tomato species the love and support and for everyone else there is. I want to say eleven more giveaway so let thou- No twelve now more. AM twelve thousand dollars left to give away so it makes you guys furnace at Labor podcast and my I gotta say one thing. I would say one thing Manny I. I really don't want to put Your Business South Attleboro. I really don't but I'm only doing this because it's public and you put your business out there. So when someone pays you you know it it shows up on the feed. everybody can see it right and so you know we landed on. Manny's paged to select the winner and you know Lo and behold I go to is feed and on November thirtieth. Two Thousand Eighteen Kristen Maximun paid manny smalls with the payment note sex. I'M NOT GONNA make any assumptions but shutout manny smalls business. It's public yeah. It's on it's on his feed. I'm sure Kristen was making a joke. I'm sure she Chris you know Kristen but anyway what congratulations to many smalls again and I guess they say that name all day many small small smooth so in this week's episode podcast presented it by Venema. We have the flights brothers for you guys that don't know who they are. They are the CO owners arisen cofounders of P as the which is a box underwear company. You know they've been other things things. They started off his t shirts but right now they're they're. They've just expanded into women's wear too yep so I have a pair. PD Done Mifflin Edwin Yup Mifflin office version of PD's on right now but It's very fascinating. You got to like you know under underwear company. Uh Let's forget but it's actually one of our Cooler interview. Just listen to this to hear them dumb grind like message they started off at a t shirt company and we'll just grinding and had you know guys like Kevin Durant who were going to you you know who signed a contract and we're gonNA endorse it but then you know the ended up falling. Do they have Guy Kyrie. Irving who is an investor a ambassador Lassiter Gordon Hayward Chandler Parsons about Jimmy Butler a lot of big name guys where I'm sure you guys see it everywhere. Ninja Ninja is an ambassador for it so it definitely cool just to hear you know their story because I don't think you know not. Many people grow up playing what I'm going to be found of an underwear company. When I grow up you know you know it's it's kind of interesting to see how to kind of fell into that to that space but just how grinded and just kind of St- you know gotTa Star and made a Nathan themselves so it was actually very interesting to really hear and they kind of made underwear cool you know like they really they really made the waistband and accessory. They realized that people we're wearing shorts a little bit low sagging amon everybody's waistband was showing but it wasn't fat wasn't in fashion really so no they made the ways exactly. Lee so they made it cool to you know show off your PSD waistband and now hearing their story about how they got started was so cool and everything they learned along the way and it was particularly cool for us do do because they're brothers right. They started a business together and you know everyone says don't go into don't go into business with family. You know you'll you'll get in fights and it'll ruin your relationship but they actually said you know. Of course they got in fights their brothers but actually said you know if they had started the company with anybody else they wouldn't have been able to get through those fights because everybody knows when you really close to someone you can you can see almost come to blows and you can almost get in fights but you know if you trust that each person is you know has the same vision that you're pushing it in the right direction then it takes you being really close to kind of get through those so it was it was cool to hear them talk about that. Yeah no it was it was cool. You know hopefully hit some guys in the you know the right way you know and as far as some of you guys think out the box and think of. Oh you know what you know you can have you know one vision but you know like you have the vision and grind for it and that vision could turn into an opportunity community to get into another area another space as you didn't even think about because now you grinded you found founded opportunity so you know think that'd be a fun episode so without further. Ado for any of that out there yeah definitely so here episode fifteen hundred light hearted podcast presented by then Mo if lights brothers and welcome everyone to another episode of lighthearted podcast. I am your gracious. host Gracious Gracious Host Josh Hart My Espresso Brother and Co host Matt Hillman and today we had the flies brothers Curtis and Ryan. Thank you very much and this is for one. Thank you very much for joining us and this is the first time we ever had to guess at one time busted out that Fourth Mike who yeah we had a bus out before we had you know some dust off on it so first of all thank you guys becoming on Kurt. Definitely Ryan thank you will come with the dust. That was like the one thing I was thinking. I'm like you know what gotTa make sure. They know who's talking. I was like we have to make sure they know Kurt Voice Career prochet lot. There's Kerr and everyone ryan was up without my right here so you guys owners and Co founders of the aware to guys. Who are you know I like personally because on the east coast from the East Coast East Coast Guy so so we also love to the east coast but just two guys who are grinders so Kinda excited wherever you gotta stores. Thank you guys would come on the podcast. Thanks thanks for having US grind you go. It's cool because we always have athletes on but when we set out to do this we want to tell all types of stories and your guys story of entrepreneurship and for the sake of the analogy it's really just a different sport in the same lane say model same business plan but just just business yeah and I think that was that was kind of hard for us to start off the podcast because oh it was like okay. I know a bunch of athletes obviously because an athlete Canada kick off the podcast okay. Who Do we really know that we can kind of get on the athlete. Athlete Athlete Athlete and it was okay we started off this podcast when get to be more of a cultural thing and not just Atlee interview and Athlete. How do you get here etc because you know sometimes one has a story that I don't want to downplay anyone's story but it's Kinda gets repetitive collapse. You know we wanNA give our listeners our viewers from people other than these because at the end of the day I us that weren't born with this ability to be able to touch the rim exactly because you know not not everyone is born with you know. The physical attributes to be athletes soliciting. You know whether it's a business person on Wall Wall streeters people who founded a an amazing you know almost ten the underwear or box brand. Iran okay yeah so it's like we always wanted to have different avenues of people to inspire our listeners and viewers. I think it's good to kind of get other people into it as funny to and it's funny when when people talk about like Mamba Mode but in stuff like that I always lead with like the huggy make it would you do and it's funny when when you hear you when you break down what Mama mode is has the same thing that same same grind is what we've been doing nonstop and and and when it crosses over in a basketball or sports it's it's the same same thing if you're not it. Is Yeah Yeah especially for us. It's cool too because I mean we. We were obviously way earlier on in our journey but we started this podcasts out of the same entrepreneurial mindset and we call each other brothers because we lived together for a while. We're not you know blood brothers you guys but it's cool to see you know. People are always like you know. Don't do business with family. Make sure you separate that but it's cool to see two brothers in business this damn near twelve years and just crusher teens in Lincoln said we're thirteen years anniversary but it's funny because we we you know the more we talk about the story now. We're we're kind of getting zone. Where people want to hear the story. We've never really stopped to to kind of smell a rose or celebrate. We've we haven't really been a hard to celebrate the fans. Were like that like you. Get a win and you just keep going. It's the next win the next one the next one and you candidates like Jason and championship and so we kind of have that same same mentality but it's funny funny when you tell the story and you're like holy cow. We've been thirteen years and we have this guy. We've been in this retailer. We've done this manufacturing. We've we've changed this game and and all of a sudden I it's kind of cool to too reminiscent and go through you know thirteen years of of building something a lot of exciting things get overshadowed because every every week something new and you're always chasing the next thing so it's it's an I think I think people saying don't do business with with family. I think honestly I think the key 'cause I hear that and we we talked about thirteen eighteen years. We've definitely had are hard days. We've had honestly if we weren't brothers like they say. Don't do business with family but you know what cab. I mean we share the same last name parents and we ask our our Dad. You know we have we are as adults has to step in and say we all you guys. Let's say earlier when you're growing like I was just like Oh. I think we should do this so I think we this and defines but if you've got I think the the biggest thing too is is if you've got the same goal and like I think you know we always talk you know the story you know being from upstate New York not the fashion capital of the world didn't even know fashioned. Was You know we we didn't know that we didn't I always joke that. There's a there's a socal like black book on how to build a brand. We didn't read it. We didn't even notice it and so so one of the things with with us kind of going out there but we always had that same end result of like hey we we want to disrupt. you know the business sense. WHY NOT US we. We knew where we're going so it didn't matter if we didn't agree every single day because because we are opposites you know him on the artists side myself my role in the business and marketing you know we definitely definitely don't see eye to eye on ninety nine percent of the if I trust that he is he knows his lane really well and he's he's has his interest in line with my interest interest and he he trusts my decisions and at the end of the day. I mean you Kinda gotTa Roll with that and I think that's been the big thing of keeping family business together as just saying Amen. Yeah you know I don't agree with it but I'm GonNa roll with it because it's your your lane or your expertise in and we kind of follow each other in the darkness and then to find out that because we didn't read that Black Book of how to build a brand that it's actually the right way because the market changes so many times that if you would have followed that same lane that her he told you to you know you probably would have failed when we left New York. We knew absolutely nobody in. La to come here. We're just country. We just we didn't know anybody we were like. Hey let's do this and loaded up and RV and we we hit the road. WHAT'S THE AGE difference. Two years older right okay started when I was twenty. Four and Kurt was twenty two no thirty six man crazy yeah because while assegais earlier because he's a yeah graduated in two thousand two thousand house we were thirteen so hopefully China madame ahead. I'm like where you're all. They know although he can't be in his thirty yeah thirty to say to both of you right now as you guys are. GonNa look back ten years from now. You're going to laugh at yourself like no matter they man. Those were the days myself from yesterday's. I'm just saying you you hit it. Trust me because when I was twenty four and started. It was different world. You gotta you gotTa copy the Florida he guy because the flow always Hagia flow always as they. I always like I forgot who I was like Jay. Z like Jay Z with short hair looks looks over his health but Jay Z little nappy like a lot younger. You might have the key to in that for a while and people were coming up to me and having conversations. I knew who I didn't know who they were. They were talking to me because they thought yes kurt. It was the craziest thing ever and I go along with it but I'd be like man. That's funny because like even like my space like you'd go back to obviously two thousand seven. If we could get our own our old my space you you know password back and up and running to see the pictures and the top friends yeah. We love looking back because it's a it's a joke you laugh at yourself but that's what you were then you now. It's it's like crazy and I think I mean you know as far as like the beginning of the story you know from from PSD's anyway I mean we were because we were upstate. New York Orc all we had is the the buffalo bills that you know where the Buffalo Bills Mafia Adler par release the shot on the buffalo essays. My Dad was born in Buffalo there yeah he was born in Buffalo and when he was like a bit but I'm a big wrestling fan so I just want to put it out there now. Yeah y'all L. Suck as well. I'll tell you like you know Ryan. He's a he's definitely one of those believers for the bills but which I mean what's funny about you know. I always look at like. Everyone has a different story. You know you've read shoe dog with with a full night and I'm like damn. I got the same stories as he does but it's just thirty years later for years later but what's funny is when you're building the brand or you're building. You don't even know what you're out there doing because you're living. It's like like you right now on the court you. You don't know what you're leaving a legacy. You don't know you 'cause 'cause you're living in every day but we set out we didn't we weren't setting out. We are setting out to take over the world but like how we were going to get there. You don't know what was he's GonNa. Change because all these things had to go right and wrong and so coming from upstate New York. Basically you know the the original story was hey we we did. We started out and we went on our local town. You own your local town. You do the skate events the yard sales the car shows the the the bars the bars let out at night you kind of do that. Hustle mode underwrite outside the bars well. Actually it was a payroll yeah. Okay screen print didn't know because actually in two thousand seven. I always try to bring people back to what was going on in two thousand seven but it was that apparel peril boom or discovering and rescreen t-shirts big chunky DC shoes shirts when everyone was was in the action sports like do tour X. Games model so it was like being blink wanting to run around and so so we we started out as just a brand it was just based on like we wanted everyone in anyone to be wearing it and so we went everywhere and an anywhere and the biggest thing you know with us is it was kind of that lake. Mama was like a if we're not on the road. We should feel guilty for not at an event. We should feel guilty or you know in every day whether it was fifty people hundred people two hundred people and it. Kinda was that snowball where we would go from a VAT from fifty people to do a bills game. You know in the tailgate party. Okay now our seeing thousands of people all right. Let's go outside of upstate New York. Let's head down South and so we started basically and we bought an old old. RV repainted black the first initial two hundred dollars for fifty shirts. That's what I did and that was what started the company. It was crazy yeah because we we both went to college but I remember making the decision that this was. This was my like. This is what I was going to do and I walked away from going getting careers. Not You know just like it's two thousand seven sessions happening. You know and starting to a little bit of savings not much. I mean we're talking twenty. Four out of college hasn't haven't really got a career going so now much money. We don't come from money and it was like Hey I remember my dad's looking at me going. Hey Be careful with just throwing money at this at your shirts and it just there was nothing anybody can tell us. That was gonNA really it was naive. I would say like what people are saying. Why didn't you quit was to we were too naive or too dumb to quit. I mean we really didn't even know it was time to quit along the way it was just there was nothing else but but you know the thing about building a brandon going back to o-7 is like when the recession was hitting there was actually a blessing for us because all the big brands. I were out of their budget and they were cutting back going out of business and we were organically so to kind of keep going with that story we started go outside of Buffalo and outside upstate New York. We had headed south because that's what you do from upstate. New York. Go West you go and get away our weather so we so all of a sudden. We're doing events college tours. You know anything we could do all the way down to Florida all the way down to let's say Miami gains. Oh Yeah so the gators game yes and so just like this tour model where we're listening. We're buying for selling twenty pair ordering afforded the next time we're selling five hundred and it was just that snowball effect but what was cool is the my space but facebook just kind of kicked up a little bit where they opened up where you didn't have to have a college. ID or college email to have facebook as we were able to kind of free advertise before advertising on facebook was even a thing so it was more powerful so people are tagging us and images at their college and so it became a roggio basically we were that guerrilla marketing carney yet carney's hard of the carnival wherever you could stop and and what was crazy at going back activate now looking back as we didn't realize that we're creating movement because we were just live in the moment. We thought it was cool. People loved it and because we were out working everybody that was either starting earning a brand or you know because it was hard money like we would have events and then I would go back and we would screen print all night long for every let me say that was Saturday Sunday we would sell out Saturday and we would scream print all Saturday nights or early morning Sunday and we resell when we would say wow this one sold the best sold. Let's double love and we had blanks just laying around that we had stocked up by and we had also help with screen printers back in our hometown. His name was Chris. Yes he was always on point with us and he was like let's do it. Let's do it and we would stay up all night and we keep this guy up all night long just printing for that next that next day to to double sell but we didn't know. I know because we were living see what was what was what was funny looking back. Now what we were learning. We didn't know it but we were living with the trends so we were way ahead of everybody. So if you're sitting at ground level you're right now like even our team. I've got I've got a group of artists in that. All they do is look for trends now. When we were living trends we were way ahead of everybody so green and yellow was trending trending or a certain pattern was trending. We knew because we were printing and the next day was selling yeah so we were year ahead two years ahead of everybody so that helped with that kind of snowball effect and the saying t's as we were all on it. I mean I put out south. We put self made self pay to t shirt that was before the self made self paid saying was even a thing and and I mean we couldn't even keep it in stock and we're we're talking when we then like whether it was in Florida or we come out to Vegas. Wherever we were hitting the country. Would it was always selling. Oh what was I feel like this. It kind of what I was saying earlier being from New York that's what I grind really out from talking about had a and two hundred fifty fifty two hundred dollars what started going in front of sporting events going to run a bar. I feel like this kind of like that. I want to east coast but mostly like like yeah. He would have no like this a lot of that is I really New York Kurt at three in the morning and say hey I don't have any t shirts and I'd be selling them on the back of my trunk. Hardee's and I'd be like Hey I'm outta shirts and there's more people that say they want him and he would he would bring them to me and whether it was fifteen anymore shirts or fifty more shirts he would be like TESCO tally and not even a bad thing. At least we have been out here eight years now. I'm yeah it's cool enjoyable but if you're trying to take over the world or grinding and really do something you know you really have to have that mentality and I think that's one reason sex successful out here. I think the other thing too is I always try to touch on the you know the the key points of like L. Listen over thirteen years. We talk for hours every week of what we did but you know the key thing about us. Being on that road is one we were. We were living with our consumer. We're learning but we were also like or they were believers in us. They felt like they were part of something because we were there shaking hands and Salome mm direct and then and then costumers the next year it would be triple the bands and all of a sudden. It's it's you know you're just like. We never forget an event. We I pulled that. We attended like three years in a row and the third year people were running. Fences are relaxed like people rushing and we're like that's crazy from a category standpoint is what I was talking to. People say like wait you start out on apparel and then. When did you pivot the underwear you know the big thing for us is and I always say like it's like going to college you. Go for four years. You grow up as you start to learn you. Study your passions. Go Up you know and and one of the things with us being on the road we were. We were growing up not knowing what we were just growing up in the industry kind of paving our own lane but you know we we started noticing. Hey there's everyone's doing a pair of we inspired this apparel. move of everybody and their brother had a rich parent or had money or just had an idea they were screen screen printing arts and so we we have an event we would go to and we were the only new guy against like. Let's say the you know the DC shoes of the world. You know our whatever the next year we came in Allison. There's another group of like brand new people and so so so all of a sudden yeah all of a sudden we see like how skull candy is ruined reinventing. The headphones beats by dre right and they're. They're taking a category. It's been around forever but they're just reinvented making a cooler. So we kind of you know. We saw this gap where on college campuses kids were wearing compression shorts a class because it was better than having a change in their underwear or out of their underwear to go hooper whenever they were just wearing it and compressions not the best thing to wear to class and so it kind of like it showed that there was a need to kind of take this era vigor out there. There's a better product out there than a cotton pair of onto our or compression shore and if we if we could make it fashionable affordable and then and also you know it was a category and so so that's really where we pivoted as we looked at it we said. Okay skinny beats came in reinvented a category and they owned it. You know stance was just starting to come with that sock movement as as brands were able Nafe was doing with headwear where it was like you could own a category and so we kind of saw that light whereas one pivotal night where it was like hey we're going. We're GONNA go from. PSD and we're going to BPS's unaware now and then like once you built that audience when you make that pivot they're they're still going to move the loyal yeah and so and the only thing to you get into facts of like that. You never knew learn like so guys. Don't dip brands of underwear throughout the week so like your brands your brand. You don't dip of you. Don't try something on Monday Sunday and then do something else on Wednesday. Whatever you wear Calvin Klein you wear it all week and you make sure you have seven pair or five I with a big fruit blue hands a handsome guy. I was all the time it was all. GotTa go runnin. Can you know yeah he's talking about before before before the go to target the four pack of hey but then had like came under fire because there was like the same. I the house a big jockey. You've got your high end as you. Lou and then they came up the tag less and it was like Oh wow this change in a game. It could do it in it was we'll going to Michael Jordan. It's funny you say yeah that so another staple moment in our career of building the brand so we decide to carve off and and and underwear but so as we were so I'll give you I'll give a shout still stevie. Abby Johnson of Buffalo Bills Way ahead of his time. When it came to fashion you know he was especially being in buffalo but people loved them. I fashion but he was he was kind of the first guy to capitalize on social media to WHO's getting paid from busy ODA twitter and stuff like that so for guy that donahue Sudan sue Johnson was a wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills Chargers. Here's niners. He had a journeyman who spent time in buffalo was a man he was. I mean hey bills mom again but yes steve was the man he's he's still. He's still our guy but the thing is so as we're learning through this so stevie was a I wanted to say like hey I want you know I'm aware of stuff but I wanna be that staple stable guy so he was actually our first. Our first athlete athlete was Stevie but will we didn't realize once you invalidated the plate and so Steve Stevie not only was a fashionable guy gave his amazing content shouters out and I remember he did dancing in the end zone. He he pulled up his waistband and it was pullover shirts the waistband. I couldn't believe it and I got hit by every agent in the book the next day was that like because I haven't. I haven't seen the clip personally I'm I'm not. I'm not I'm not. I'm not sure if I wanted to let them. I'm not sure if I'm go look this up and like see him like lifting been dancing but was it took off so did he lift the shirt shirt up. Two Zero two shows here text me the day before the game. I'm like yeah I'm watching what it what it meant but he had he ended up can in the end zone and that was the whole point but the funny thing is that for like forty our kids came like Yeah da the Patriots which is the best thing you had to be pressure but was cool it so he was he was boys with Matt Barnes Barnes applying for Lakers. Matt Barnes Boys was Snoop Dogg and so all of a sudden. It's like you know that all of a sudden it's at Domino's effect and so so we ended up having some west coast reasons come on here for trade shows and so bought a bit by then. We're making five hundred thousand dollars out of the bus. We're really making some momentum moving some units and so we bought a bigger bus and said hey we got we got venture out. West but we started needed to look in a cage. We saw our first contract and and it was the cool thing about it. Is We got our asses kicked when you say contract horsemen deal like an endorsement talks with Stevie John Nice it was one of those they did their job and I look back and say thank God because they've saved us so much money going forward because the island Somalia in that first contract but yeah for sure but it was but it was great it was a good it was good it was good for us and and we learned a lot but at the end of the day to like the value that we got out of him was was way more than we could have. We could have ever paid for anyways but the key there is in going back to the Jordan thing so so now we're kind of graduated into that. We got vowed eighty at the table. So now we got the Barnes came out here and snoop and we start to see what real deals are and that allows us to get you know kind of wholesale model or you look at brick and mortar and so for getting the other tour days of us doing the vans warped tour in going to journey shoes and like you know the the actual the bus days we're starting to look at it from a national national brand and so we get to where we're you'll. Kyrie irving was wearing duke and all of a sudden he's eagles number one draft pick and he's he's Cleveland and you know we're at the spot where he wants to come in and he's learned Miller. You gotTa try to tell that story but so one of the tour days and talk about that grind we just got done with journey shoes told us if you ever WanNa be in our our stores you'd have to have an MTV show and it was because Rob Dirk had his his show with it was actually robin big at that time. Drama had his with young and reckless and so he was joking around town beat it out we'll never stolen on average retail so we we grab this happen to your camera guy and put him in the bus and we went on MTV spring break tour ammo sell them the whole thing and yeah so we went on Tour and basically film the whole thing and and with just came off. I mean it's funny because you would think it'd be fun to be on spring break for a month but it was like there and you're like don't show me anything. Nobody's OBI and he's no no liquor. Give me out of here. We're we're we're also we go out. One time man we ain't drink alcohol do do this spring break and we had the MTV guys Johnny Bananas Author Show. It was Kevin Damage Crazy legit. They're living with us. We're in the same you know condo and it was like yeah so anyways we leave that like death like just ready to go home and chill out and and so we get a we get a text message from mark long which is another. MTV The real world guy and he said Hey. I wish you guys would stayed in in Florida because the the gator growl this weekend's it's a homecoming weekend and I think Tibo was there still and so he's like the over Florida and so we just got back in upstate New York and I remember we had the garden yeah I remember. We had the garment at that time of navigation. They didn't have it on the phone. You know we were we were probably blackberry gals or something back in twenty two hours and I look twenty two hour drive to the events in twenty four hours. Let's go so we literally fire the bus up and down loaded back up and we drove to the and and so we were in the parade we drove base rate to the parade so long social. We end up crushing it. We ended up with a fraternity across the street from the stadium and huge game anyways. Mike Miller earlier was there for an alumni thing Mike Boorda Florida yeah so we have this big line like two hundred people buying underwear and stuff and then he kind of came outside and he was like hey we he is doing here you know and we started talking and he was trying to build an energy drink and just love that there was a big line of people and he was given out energy drinks and trying to network and so he's like hey you know Let's keep in touch. Give me a box. I mean do during never panned out because I forty soya overseas. I'll tell you another story. That's another another podcast involved in that but but so what was funny so so we ended up gifting. Mike and I wasn't a huge my big thing is I was building. A Brand Ryan was more of a sports fan than I am where I'm like I just I'm out for spreadsheets and business and let's make another dollar and get our vet and so make basically he was in Miami just won that championship and so he was like so all of a sudden we get this tweet and it's like it was it was suppo- he didn't know really how to use. It wasn't a Damn Oh hey here's my phone number and get a hold of me and this is all his followers dance ads arrived like Hey Mike number tweeted his number and and so I'm like it probably the scam but anyways I'll try to calm and and when I talked to him answered he's like man my phone's blowing up and said yeah so anyway if you're ever in Miami. Let's talk and I'm like you're not gonNA believe it. I'M GONNA be there in a day so I was back and so we get loaded back up and drove Tamiami and and basically that was one of those times where we'd gifted him. You know he was in the locker room. Brian asked him about his underwear wise wearing wearing a wild onto where and then I mean thinking about the best time in Miami Lebron de way Mike Miller was did birdman on real and we're we happen to be thrown in the mix so their kids kids were so we ended up with gift in again and then and then like Lebron James. All those guys wanted the stuff that there was kind of all the players were wearing locker room until Mike. I WANNA I WANNA invest. Let's take this to the next level. I believe in this and Mike and Mike I'll tell you you know you know with athletes. Everybody's always investing in different things but I'll tell you Mike is alleged when it comes to understand what's going on to be in that kind of next level entrepreneur from an athlete night and he kind of saw the vision and he's like listen if you can line people up outside of a rig and sell underwear I think there's something here and he kind of saw all the movement so so anyways he hands taking a risk and doubling down and say hey listen. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Invest Money and but I need to. I need to be real. I need to get you know. Get off the road. Show a little a bit where you WanNa go New York or La in our bus when fit in New York so we defaulted back to to L. A. and so basically from there you know with him believe in in you didn't have much of a business plan but he he believed in us that one thing in the movement and so we we literally drove out here in got an office in a in a in a backpack kind of program grandma just started hiring people that we thought we needed in China Hardaway many learning or the said do the people that we thought we knew it was like okay yeah because it tells you the first time doing this so you you learn about one what you who you need what you. I need to say okay. We don't we cut these is or you probably learn a lot about yourself having to manage people to I'll tell you I'll tell you that's the that's one of the toughest things but I was. He's called the honeymoon stage where we're sometimes people. Don't make it out of the first rays phase so to get the business. I'll talk signed some some actual business faxes like if you you know one on the first raises always easiest because everybody's believing in projections and hype and you just use every once in a believe in everybody's thinking of hundreds of millions never just a couple of millions like we're GonNa make hundreds of millions where the next under under armor where the next monster energy drink or something and so one of the things with the raises is it was it was I wanna say it was easy but it was easy. We didn't have business plan we kind of scabbed some things together but Mike believed in as he knew he knew he'd run through off for them and so but we hit that honeymoon stage where it was like okay all of a sudden we go from being broken seeing every five dollars every go into the you know we stayed open because we had doing swear to salary moment where we're like okay. There's some money coming in. Let's get off. Let's get some employees. Let's but we but we we were so there's a honeymoon phase and so we looked at and we did we hired we order product that we didn't have sales for and you know you start to staff up and there's that management tool but there's also he also you've got everybody's opinion and you do value people's opinion early on and and one of the best things that I say from upstate New York so METALLICA's instead of letting it go too long. Were you started looking at it. In the writing the wall you know after you know thirty sixty ninety days you start to figure out if that's the right team yeah you cut it early and that was one of our big things start to look at it and go man if we would. Iran that fit this program where you hire a bunch of resumes people that are that are from your from from good spots and they have knowledge they don't have knowledge from growing brand from zero zero to where it was but they knew how to take it from a certain level and it was not a knock on those who at that point in your life and that pointing to visit and where PSD not was was added going some of those people. Weren't you know right at that time now again. I probably wouldn't know you'll fast for later on my eh got back on my team because now with budgets and in certain funding we they would be perfect but with nothing and that was kind of a so so anyways they kind of kind of go three that we went through that stumble of where it was like hey we raised we hired. We staffed up. We got product. We build a projection and we we fund that projection and then all of a sudden all of a sudden. You're like wait a second. It's not coming back in after that trade show. We're off the road now because we're all we're we're doing this wholesale model and I had to do a kind of say Jerry Maguire thing but it was one of those things where you come back in and you kind of go over the facts. You're like a everybody here can't be making now because it won't last long and you're not we're not going to be able to give health insurance and because because we we did we went from zero to give everybody the Google package and it was one of those Jaguars where it was like yeah. We were still getting nothing yeah yeah but that was that walkout at that point. We got every thinking of like you know. What maybe we should just stand because you guys are having success on the road. You know you like you so you were doing well on the road at that point where you guys ever just thinking like you know. What maybe maybe we shouldn't do hotel thing? Maybe we should just kind of continued to grind including the glory. I mean yes. We did do something yeah. We did do some pump events and then all the retail. L. Was the goal of like becoming a brand and becoming a household brand like retail validate too so you're in stores and people listen. It's it's the it's the shiny if the Zeros at the end of the at the end of the check wholesale is a lot of digits and a lot of units in fast forward thirteen years. We get our first. I P O Roma target as three hundred thousand units vending events. I had to go to three hundred thousand year. Spring breaks probably still be on spring break if you're three thousand but but go back to what was cool is like we also again chapters and management you start to believe in people when you look at it and go the guys that stayed on board when we said. Hey we had to do some cutbacks and rearrange our our program. This is also coming in. We're worked way early to the game of underwear. Nobody's doing it. Nobody wants it. Retailers are they've got Kelvin. They got Tommy. They got polo and they got hanes and jockey rocky. They don't need PSD then we have our own lane and so we created our own Lania in the pricing we were selling singles when people are selling multi packs and so so one of the things without honeymoon in stages is we went back to that grind Mo.. We're like a I never hit. I never did the poor me or like what are we going to do. It was an instant change of we pick up tomorrow. We change our mode. We go back to what we know to keep the lights on but then we also know that to get to that goal we have to be at retail and we'll take a different route and and so one thing I did learn though is they didn't want to hear from retailers didn't want to hear about our roadshow anymore. They were over the all American dream they wanted. They wanted a face the brand and wanted to be a celebrity so so kind of Brandon's back to the Jordan thing is so while we're talking with Mike and Actually Katie was actually training to his house. Memphis and it was during the MVP MVP season. We we do this. We get we get an education but we do we do a direct to athlete deal so Katie's at our house at Mike's House and we're we're family. Eighty was yeah brother. He's like let's do a deal. Let's go and we're like we never we never asked about agencies. We never asked about who's signing off on on it. We just went in did the paperwork he sitting on the couch. Mike's we're all family and friends eaten signs a deal. We design a line with him. I go presell it into Tilly's and Zuma's is in footlocker and and we're we're ready for the races and he ends up and this is this is never a knock because it actually worked out amazing where we're all family now with everybody but he ends up signing with ROC nation in so the first thing he does is he gets a manager and agent and and they look at all the deals and they go what the hell is this deal with this shit as Newark Army no money and has no scale. Why didn't we go to Calvin Klein or Nike like that and so and so that first time that I thought wait a second but we have a deal. What do you mean you know and so oh cool is he. Actually who his agency went shop the deal found him a better deal a lot of money up front with another man and and there wasn't even in the underwear game yet but they wanted to develop the category with him as the face. Oh there's no you know what was cool is again faced with a challenge never ever even skip the be a cabin. You gotTa take this deal. We ripped it up the next day we were painful because you already starting rushing pumped back into is like the excitement of the like. Hey Kevin Durant is is going to be part of our customers telling your family. This is real like yeah. It's a you know. Katie is going to be our face and then all of a sudden you find out it's almost it's like you've watched the news and you get a story that they completely opposite of what you know and you're like wait a minute that can't be right but from a positive light what was cool like. Steve Johnson Johnson Education we got educated again from from how deals work and how they are and and so we kind of change on models so we again we flip flop again instead of looking at it by paperwork and Alma. We're eating together. Why are we you know. What about those nights? We sat you know in in your living room and we instead of crying about those stories and trying to bring it up we looked at we said you know what we we have to change our model. WE'RE NOT GONNA pay people. We have to have this. They have to be emotionally connected with the brand. You understand the vision and be in it for the long haul and so fast forward a couple of days later. We looked at it. We said okay. Kyrie's got interest. Jimmy Butler got interest Chandler Parsons Ganor curious. These are passionate guys that are young enough that wanted to be the face of this brand but but they also are learning from what D- Did about getting equity in brands and stuff like that at this moment summer doing doing very well and yeah and I know guys you know. Chandler hasn't been doing the last couple of years but you know he he he was demand. Yeah go very marketable commission. was there listening everybody listen. We put that team together. That was one of the big things everyone's spoke to a different demographic and so I'll be honest. Chandler Parsons sells more women's underwear than he can because guess what the girls were following him all day so that's a very marketable movement there we we we. Didn't you know hey if he he he has his lane and he does it really well and and so same with Kyrie. I mean Kyrie's shoe. His shoe sales follow. Are we draft aft- Office shoe sales for underwear. You're Jimmy under Jordan brand. You know everybody has their has their lane so one of the things but was cool as everyone the same mentality so we lose we lose a deal. Katie and we we don't don't skip a beat and we'd go rating Kyri Jimmy now. We want an army now now. We're kind of got that chip on our show where we're like. Maybe seven so we're going at had it like. Let's get all the guys that are passionate and it was a good summer because everybody was out here and everybody was excited about it. They already wearing it and that's one thing I can tell you from a key business. Standpoint is like when you're emotionally connected with the brand already. It's so much easier to get. That's one thing I always tell people when when it's something that it's feel it's forced than there was no fun for. There's no fun for the brand is no fun for the brain abandoned me done you have to reread your contract tried to think that the deals already done you know exactly but so cool so we'll try to flash fast forward through so many thirteen years so so then we ended up so what we did is we. We approach a different way. Remember we learned from Stevie Johnson's. He'll learn from what happened. We Katie's deal and all of a sudden. We had to approach a different way. We're like okay. Let's let's get him on his partners instead of pain and what they're worth which we didn't have the money Pam anyways. Let's get him in his equity. Partners long-term play let him be hands on. They want to be hands on and let's let's pioneer this thing together equity at all. It makes you more. We're invested in it because one odds were to you know as the brand grows so does your and it's there when when you're done with your would your career and you guys kind of pioneered that too 'cause it's only now in the past couple of years at athletes are really starting to think about equity. I mean like I mean the Lebron. Beats deal was like the one that like Kinda really. It got like a ton of you guys body armor but you guys really really early in that and it's funny because like a learning in like again as you do these deals you know you really don't you go in and we're we're going up against legends. I mean these guys are negotiating Nike Deal Yeah and then here we are with the bottom feeder yeah and so it's got to be strategic because is at the end of the day. It's like you have to incentivize them enough to know they can make something so they believe brand and there is the upside of of what they can make so so what we did is but going back. Michael Jordan Hanes Comma from earlier on is we do so we make our first run with the contract and Nike Push Back Kyrenia's now no way they they're they're. They're doing stuff. We are and we're like what do you mean so we look at our website and you're right. We still had t shirts and hats and bell anything we were brand at that time and so we at that second. I remember nine one scrap. Everything get everything off the website except onto where we are an under brand only now and we're GONNA in if Jordan can do it Kyrie can do it and he went back in that meeting with that mentality going Jordan can do I can do it any day carved off Kirita underwear because we were considered a smaller brand. They weren't worried about US yeah and they had a passionate athlete and soon as they did that. We now had a case study and now if I go in doors open because Nike's notorious for like they want your whole body as little as now I think in the contract gets issues. I was a big one but then and you had the perilous have a head to toe you have you have sunglasses added anywhere after US red red underwear and as I like sports wear wristbands headband stuff like lake dude literally if you're Nike Adly it's I don't WanNa say impossible possible because you guys did it but it's so hard about avenues for other deal. I mean you know because everything for a reason I would live. We admire other. We have our full things we do exclusive onto her deals same thing where nobody you can't do not nothing as an undergarment with US fifty now with our level and so they're amazing program but what happened was so we we get that case study. We've got to win and all of a sudden so that it may Jordan's deal. Jimmy's your AH Chandler actually had to stand stockdale when we did it with underwear and so he would nike all with Dis ah more Naidu yoke so so all of a sudden but what happened was we were. We were small brands. They'll be worried about if they weren't wasting go. It was a passion project. Listen you know at the end of the day like you know they don't WanNa lose. I'd say they is they don't Nike they want to Piss off a Kyrie Irving. I mean so he's he's passionate about yeah so so anyway so we kind of go through it and we got a we got a now. We have a model model and so if you look at a roster now the Baker Mayfield's the photo shoot was hilarious legendary that everybody thought it was faced that was the greatest the greatest shoot over yeah so so it's funny when you go to Burger from the hangover and that was that was Chandler Parsons Rolls Royce. We borrowed that he is out here in. La trained that tigers trained its hair cars apart so we get in the car. Stay outside for the movie literally just going to say yeah yeah so so the further movie he was. I The code is what's funny about the Marquis side of go. That's as we knew it was going to go negative or positive brand either way if this goes negative is because they just looking at because. I was positive service you know you can go so many ways but you look at it like even if his negative is like don't talk to me and it doesn't would be on sports order on sportscenter first time ever exactly. I was like wow he's he. Is the photos you. There's a tiger so everyone's like if either oh wow does he really caused the tyro. People will like that filed the hell. I show three weeks on ESPN for three weeks straight. They just kept they kept the here's the other thing about underwear is it is a laughable category. It's it's so it's one of those things where any time we do a shoot with with a with a top tier guy. It's always GonNa get they noticed so we always have to be kind of creative and so so this is what's kind of cool. Bring back to our upstate. New York routes is that photo shooting costs us very much we borrowed Chandler Parsons car. Got Got. The Tiger because I know we did it out to be in Baker already here so we didn't have to fly anywhere but then what was funny is like if if you go to like a big legendary brand and I look at photo shoots in in content days that that a Nike level do they spent a ton of money and it's amazing stuff but this this new era of kid which we are still growing up with wants authentic radical organics so for beggar. Maybe it'll be standing in front of a Rolls Royce with with his shirt off with no tan holding tiger is so ridiculous that it's going to be everyone's going to talk about it and that now we did our marketing job for nearly any budget versus somebody that would come in like a brandon spend when people when people talk about quality content nowadays. I it they don't even necessarily mean the level of camera shout they mean the direction and behind and how well is it tapping into like cultural relevancy and like you said how well speaking these kids listen Kyrie standing on the end of his doc in Miami on a summer break with his arms up with his shirt off showing the waistband is better than us doing a full blown phone photo shoot jumping out of a helicopter. I mean it just it. Just is organic stuff in the same. I mean I know we're jumping are the same thing with Ninja with you know obviously with e gaming and stuff to his organic content. Emma on him on his stream is as powerful as doing billboards awards. You know it's just unbelievable. I mean the craziest thing you mentioned like the waistband. It's quarter here. You guys kind of refer to it that way because like Josh. We're growing up like you said it. Wasn't you know we're in bloom. It was like we're just wearing. It and it's something nobody sees but you guys to me. We're the first ones that really treated that as as an accessory yes by people yeah yeah people actually want show the waistband. You wear your shorts a certain way just so that way span you know what I mean. It's just like the branding of it. It's like we did it as a marketing thing where where it was. It was one of those yeah I mean yeah but it's it's crazy because we did it as we didn't have the money to make a global marketing plan and let everybody nobody known by ad so it was like if the waistbands kind of showing we need everybody in the world the note of this PS. DC We did that the one of the reasons the logo is even the way it is where it's very block letters is because it needed to hit you over. The head have no confusion in create a brand and over over the years now. It looks like you're used to seeing it so you're like Oh. It's the Nike swoosh Josh like they looked at that for years and years people were probably like what is that how you see it and you know it's just the branding the logo goal like we didn't even know you're creating a movement to kind of tie everything back into needs like all along the way of putting block letters on an underwear and putting on certainly we didn't don't even know you're disrupting a category wasn't we didn't know her disrupting. It was just Kinda on to the next bigger better stronger. How how hard can we go and what's next for this brand and and I I think the key other thing we we say there's a lot in office like we always have this mentality. It's like adapter die and so you see a lot of brands where they get in the lane and they stay they stay. They stay the course state. Of course I never change and then they die and so one of the things that we've always done is we've always been the kind of this this chameleon hybrid model where we're always in touch with the market always in touch with the changes so so when we when we were on the road that was all we knew but e com wasn't a thing there's no Amazon or whatever so it was all about brick and mortar and having sales reps and a team fast forward seven years later. It's all about e Com. Everybody's rushing into calm and now everybody's going back into these standalone brick and mortar joe boxer. You have standing brick and mortar and stuff so everything kind of comes cycle. We're always there to kind of adapt or die. Listen people retail. Just ask us what happens if this athlete gets injured while we will one you know we pick athletes is dead that irrelevant relevant on or off the corridor on the field too. We have that next guy whether it's an athlete or an e Gamer like miniature football players like Baker. I mean we had marshawn Lynch when he was one of your yeah yeah and it's in it's and you can't pigeonhole us all the only work with athletes because that's not the case we we gotTA. You just have a huge family of athletes that like hey they come through. They realized that like our brand is is just the chill zone like honestly people come to the office. There's no pressure whatsoever. You briefs You get them. If you don't know problems you WANNA post post. No no problem. You know what I mean. It's like we don't have that pressure. I feel a lot of brands put on asthma got some superiority brands right now Albaro but you know we get going now yeah. They hit me up a mortgage guy the himmy at one point there was a semi some new ones. The already never got him. Don't fire him though that that's the hook you brought. I brought him. Tonight is made up for two two years D. underway. Maybe I'll tell you it's funny because even like marketing and stuff. You know we've we've always valid are valued our relationships and I'll tell you that is one thing again going back to the East Coast mentality galaxy. We still are that real handshake family friendship. You know I'll do what I say. I'm GonNa do and and we treat all our business partners that same way Katie Katie still still are boy. Every time we hear Katie's all love like even though the contract never got done that that deal was still our hi five and over. We're glad you got that money. Improper Katie's boy. I love him to death. They look out tenure. You know now he's with Kyri and they're they're matching mega so now all of a sudden. It's like the photo shoot together. I think it's it's so cool because obviously the brand in addition to having an incredible product was built on the backs of of of just listening to Ben Consumer over and over and over again understanding what's hot and who's hot and that's obviously translated through the years with like athlete ambassadors that you guys have like like you said. Chandler regardless of what is production is on the core is an incredibly strategic person everyone else Jimmy Kyrie like cultural figures you've since moved onto to gaming Ninja which again just through the years kind of a testament to your guys willingness to adapt and understand what's hot so I guess talk a little about how you discovered Ninja. What that what that process everybody yeah. Everybody's Oh go ahead before you answer that answer. One question is like the highest selling one. I'm not sure if you don't have to sell impair. I'll give you that so as far as like a one day driving traffic crazy so he tweeted about our partnerships in a just excited excited about this. PSD thing we'd like to many people on the website and you're just waking credit card crazy so so as far or is a one day launch out of the gate all day every day I mean he he converted. It was unbelievable but was crazy and going back to your question of how you get there early. He only made one announcement before. PSE and it was red bull and then we were the second brand endorsement so you think of all how because once you do it over and over and over it kind of kind of headed down but but I'll funny story things happen like this all time like that's why we always take kind of things how they come because you never know what's. GonNa come out of the back but we had an intern for Michigan in our office working working grinding. It was his last week there and he's like man. I I was watching this e Gamer this morning and he stood up and he was wearing swear he was wearing. PSD and I'm like okay. I and I even know what twitch or nothing you know we were there was in the heart of extra. I think Baker's the also bakers. Hbo Show were about hard knocks and so anyways he shows IOS meaning like do this guy gets a lot of us and is the next wave and I kinda was just like yeah. Yeah whatever whatever game and like my parents would like get out. Get outside and play basketball. Don't don't play games and and so anyways we looked into a little bit more in through our relationships we had a connection and he was actually GonNa be in Vegas for like the e three event at the Luxor and so I'm like you know what like I driven Florida for Mike Miller things. I've done some crazy things. Go in and see what it's about if we're if we're gonNA talk about let's go at it yeah and so anyways went in when and met with them in the coolest dude down but I saw a stadium or the Lux art I saw was when he played with drake and so I saw set the record this this is peak Ninja too so here's going in there like I'm thinking Nintendo in my head I'm going like I didn't know that world. I'm thinking you know and so all of a sudden by the end of each opening. I'm that awards I'm doing the whole I'm excited in the booth and I'm meeting the owner of like twitch and I even know what to which is you know and and so so anyways we so we go through the motions just like we do with everybody else and we do this amazing. Purna ship mazing deal and announces it and drives that traffic and we're like holy. Are we really a gaming company now because he just he's fine because kids corner office asking for an attack but was cool with that whole thing is like because we had we've we've proven our value because here's the other thing like people don't realize they're like everyone thinks that they should be able to call the news agency and say. I want to give this guy in endorsement deal believe in me and believe in my brand but what happens with building a brand is when you actually have brand value so he knew our brandy war but we actually actually could go to the plate and negotiate a deal because we have to have sales going back to the entrepreneur side of it. You have to check a bunch of boxes to get. I always say the suits lawyers to sign off on on deals. You get financial advisers sign off on deals. You gotta get agencies who are also getting paid so if you're trying to give this guy a dream. The agents get paid unless there's money upfront in place everyone wants. That's up from money wants and so we have to show value to say hey. This is a partnership. We're not giving money from our we're. We're we're going to give this and we're GONNA REV share. How how chapel deal we it's. It's got you have to have brand value and so one of the things we've gotten to a point where we have brand value and we can walk into a guy like Ninja or anybody else you know that we've sat with and and actually sit down and have an educated conversation about what the deal looks like what's healthy for the partnership and then what everybody's liberals are going to be because. I'll tell you a lot of brands made a mistake where they go in and I need twelve posts a year and you're like why lied like what's the point at twenty dollars. Yeah it'd be great to have Ninja talk about twelve times but it's like if you have a strategic plan and you show why you do what in whether it's twelve or three or whatever and and and we learned that from athletes because I'll tell you one of the things we've been we've been cool with is our deal with Kyrie might say he's gotTa do twelve things on social media year ear but if he gets hurt or he's having emotional day or a game or whatever we're not pushing them saying hey you just use miss that game winning shot. Could you please post because your contract says it. It's Christmas were like a we'll. We'll see on the back and we're good we'll keep going and so and so what's happened is we've we've been able to learn how to make the brand stand on its own and so uh whether or not or Jimmy or they shelved for signings or we can do anything in the bran has stand on its own and so with the e Com world we've been able to drive ads and Dr Name and likeness and let the pnd kind of kind of thing and drive some sales and so with Ninja. We can sit down and go hey we. We only need this little amount because I'll tell you steve. Johnson's agent told me something something in the beginning. He says just because just because you know he might be home for the weekend anytime. He's away from his kids. The meters running and I remember being like what what do you mean. It doesn't matter if it takes them two hours to get through with the signing or anytime. He steps out of his house. He's not with his kids store meters running and so we look at that where I will go to Kai and I'll like I need a half an hour a year from you. I don't even an hour. I'm going to do a photo shoot and seven minutes. I'm going to do you know a line review in another seven minutes. I'm going to have you back on the road. You know twenty seven minutes later or whatever and we want an hour your time because I know how strong our brand is and we know we're we're going into where the plan of what we we need and we want the bare minimum. If you want to do extra and like talk Johnson you guys do because they're passionate about and they do that extra and obviously I'm an athlete and I have different brand deal than we talked a little bit earlier about like. Oh if it's not a genuine deal of organic you guys but has an I had you know as a brand that I wasn't really genuine to me and I I would just like life folding up products like your mom in your mouth factors yeah. I don't WanNa thing where I think brands. can take note on on this kind of hearing you guys say that it's like if you get if you you need mandatory twelve pose and you force your client to do twelve boy is not going to work out all have three or four or dislike. Organic Ganic Post that they do on their own yeah and that that could be just as powerful as twelve or thirteen policies because there's more stuff to it that there's a video they might be more enthusiast into yet or they might do something an icon more creative and then that can be January move us and etc but like I want to do this yeah. Ps and you just Capirossi and take a picture of everyone it will here's to the consumer now looks through that so like. I'll say like those really well budgeted programs like a photo shoot like I look at some of these things like I said and I and I'll go. Oh my God they fool men and did the best tiger take the picture but it's not organic every the kid looks through what they want him standing in his his bedroom and a kitchen or relate to it can't relate a flying on a helicopter. You can relate to Ninja saying playing video the game having fun with it. It's onto. Let's let's not forget. This isn't awkward category and so. We're always like you see our faces. Yeah our photo shoots are not like playing on the beach. Towel like ours are always some sort of created because at the end of the day like you know we're we're looking at it the same way as everybody else like were the consumer like hey hey we. Let's do something creative and fun and in organic and I'll tell you you know I was I was with you know last week in as we're just chopping up about business and excitement and like you you know he he's he's cheering us on because he's been part of it for a while and he's looking at like you guys are legends. I'm looking at him like you're. You're alleging. He's going your legend. We're kind of looking at this any any takes the unaware that brought them just as a gift just a new fresh. Perry needed clean underwear. Benny's clean onto her and and he ends up taking a picture and putting on a story. We never talked what about nothing. Contract didn't care about it was just cook is like I said it's always a genuine because it's January with the brain but they've also Elsa with the people and I think that's the biggest part is the brand is the brand but it's it's about the people and the character and the people when you have people that you know it's like. Oh you know you gotta chopped up. Oh Oh by way. Oh you know you don't even think about Oh cool. You want to show you about your phone and and it's just it's so it's so cool as as an athlete to just like beyond that journey like we send the beginning. It's just a different sport like we shameless plug but like we invested in early stage. Beverage Company and like we're on the phone with the COO late. Love love asking about you know. How many doors are you in now like he's giving us updates and it's just really it's really fun core. Also it's funny because like I don't even say the name either here in and we've noticed that too where like like I go back to Mike Mike Legend winning when it comes to businesses and he's one of those guys he's actually he's. He's a we always yoga. I might email problem because they'll send a lot a lot of Pilsen in buffalo wild wings. You know what I WANNA own this. He'll go down the road and beat us that one on this too and he's actually he's a serial entrepreneur. You know but but you know well yeah. You see what kind all these guys like. You know how hard you work in the gym and like Your Day job but there's then there's your passion projects so and so it's our job is is is this brand and what we do but then you know the the people around ourselves with is that that passion project now that we have momentum. I always say this to my sales team. I'm like man I wish you could sauce and the day when nobody liked liked us because as we sell some stuff and then we would but it was always yeah. Now kind of the worry is well you walking. I mean honestly I hate to say it like we haven't we have not walked into a retailer in the last two years and not walked out with a peo in a full program and and like I said now if you see an this is kind of again again tip bring it back to the entrepreneur side of UC designed like pair of underwear. It's probably a good chances are it doesn't matter if it's target. Walmart Kohl's peck son too busy. There's another side of business so outside of the branding standpoint. There's a sixteen billion dollar underwear market out there that's untapped and needs to be retouched and so we've been able to actually penetrate underwear underwear as a category outside of branding and go in and do private labels white labels and in different collections and so Jimmy Butler wanted to do his collection with target because he's like hey I was. I was a walmart customer summer. I didn't have to come client so we designed a whole line went to target do a full eighteen hundred door roll out three hundred thousand five hundred thousand units and now it's a different game that we've elevated to so now we're we're kind of that household brand in so. I think you know gained it all back and I think the key really is one. There's obviously good partnerships all along the way learning all along the way we've we've gotten to a point now where we're we did this deal with the La Hoya Group and they're they're you know an on og in the industry when they O.`Neil spirituel gangster and Hang Tan but but as a point we're looking at it like we've outgrown our building three years in a row. How are we really going to have to stop another fifty. Hundred people get another new building or do you strategically part to partner with somebody that already has that infrastructure and they can just let you focus on what you're doing and what you like and and so this June you know we we signed a deal with with the La Hoya Group and hence we kinda hit this next phase or is that coming out of the garage phase phase finding yourself as a brand phase category turns on fire athletes out of fire and then and now the category is full blown on fire. There's you know everyone thinks nobody's wearing twelve pack hanes anymore. As far as fashionable kid. INSTAGRAM's affected that big time. Everybody's a factor. I mean this is gonNA sound kind of wild but I mean obviously you say you're in Akron. We don't purposely designed nine boxers but I mean you know Buick. Don't really wear like like they're kind of like plead are now is they now have. Would we all our friends. They're athletes. They always come through everybody on squad wears and we're like that's cool to hear you know no and that's great and I personally don't know every single one of them. I met a lot you know the ones that come through but it's like just to hear that everybody knows that the deal that's the other thing thing too is like it's an actual category now that people are trying you get a studio and you go out and try to get underway deal on a stock deal and stuff like that but I've got who gave it. I'm not sure who gave it to bud L. L. Was Lat last year. Who I don't know who am I. It might have been I don't know but it was like we all had like five or six pairs of appeals and we had it with the Ninja Ninja ones. You had to all green Kyri ones which I don't want to do. We have a Mario Ones Tomorrow I'm wearing. I didn't wait when you when you show it to be honest. I didn't steal them but our housekeeper. Yanni does the laundry documents he definitely does but like you said earlier and I saw them and I thought about browse like I'm not GonNa put you on Black Baio. You know the mind now. Did you set the Mario. Ones being we we had but it's like you give guys you know five or six pairs at Ozawa's land one is I okay you know you you wear but as I oh okay neither called called the move with you. Oughta soda and it's like Oh they have cool designs with US announced. I remember wanted to go on and get funny stories. Our website is we had a couple of athletes start to order just organically from me all of a sudden you're you're you know you get a web order for like four hundred fifty bucks and that's the average order fifty or whatever and so we'd have to check to see if fraud and I'll never forget it. They're pulling up bar. Guys are pulling up addresses and seeing the names and it's it's professional athletes just randomly ordering and that's good. That's a good thing that means that they they they love the brand they you know obviously where it is different organic and they go blinded by. You know what I'm spending my own mind. They don't even bother us like me free. It's like they're actually organically vercel deums on instagram room later like I'd talk but it's okay you know it's funny from an engagement stamp. I'll tell you a little secret but you know there's I always joke around. There's a lot bottomfeeders you know once you have a hot category it wouldn't with t shirts were hotter but it was teachers but you know obviously we've kind of paved a way of of the hey there's money to be made in underwear and so smart people we're going to get involved and there's a lot of new brand of but we still have stuck to our program of like Hey. We're giving you five pair because you know you need seven so so. I want you to ask for those other to to get you through the week or want to do laundry where other brands are coming and giving you hundreds hundreds and and it's funny because if you if you going back to that first mentality you believe in in yourself good. You know you're a better quality you signs if I give you fi- pair versus the other brand it gives you a hundred. My five are going to raise the top and you're GonNa have to ask asked me for those two and as soon as you ask me those two we've engaged and now we're now we're now. We're on different level than somebody just sending a box to your front door one hundred pair especially myself. That's actually smart as that's the secret you're GONNA be doing. He'd actually literally think we had like we got like five or six pairs and it was really like not enough credit cards outwear. Menendez like like like day. They'll have to wear like hanes and say come and it comes with him like twice a week long. I woulda OUGHTA curious about the like the licensing side of the business because I know we mentioned Mario. Yeah and then saw when the baker photo shoot happened that there was some available in like Oklahoma sooners edition so whoa that's obviously a whole different yeah. So how does that work yeah so I mean what's what's kid again. I would say validated at the plate you know and I always joke around like the education money. You know what you do wrong and so so I'll tell you we we we know so it's kind of some trends of cross doing brands times a license and so I'll I'll go back through four or five years ago we did we did kissing. ACDC and we're like we paid for big like a a huge. We were sold. The dream shoots names. We stepped up w we didn't really have to play around with but it was one of those like hey we want to get into his lane. Just like Stevie Johnson that Katy thing where we learned our lesson we know what minimum guarantees these are and royalty rates are and and so but we cut our teeth with that license but what it did those at validates that the plate Kyrie those guys so all of a sudden all these licenses. Are you know they kind of look get into. Hey We wanna do this collection with you and so so we kinda hit a couple of phases where we're like okay. What we we lead with is that we have times a trending license. Everyone wants to reinvent their underwear categories license so let's say it's a say it's like cartoon network where like Rick and Morty it's easy to t shirts and hats and shoes and socks but when it comes to underwear it's actually a craft because it has to be a good quality stuff but you have to focus on and so one of the things with us being a category killer we were able to come into like a cartoon network or Nickelodeon or Budweiser. Whatever it's a hey we're going to redevelop own and we're going to develop your your underwear. Category also GONNA elevate it with our athletes and slave marketing retailers. We were put them in retailers. They weren't so all of a sudden it was like once was like when we got kyrie every athlete every draft pick everybody comes through our office and wants a deal and we kind of get to see everybody I and so that came in and licensing but outside of the branded licensing whereas ps the Times Rick and Morty or times budweiser there's also another lane of just straight great licensed underwear where you're just making budweiser underwear for Walmart and so all of a sudden we saw this other world of a lot of units non brandon license underwear and so and so we've kind of hit this like I'd say in the last four years where hit his stride where we have our branded projects and we have our our kind of cool storytelling you know capsules Kyri Times Z. so I'll leak it a little bit but we got the license for friends and so we have friends capital comments come on big fan shooting Hugh yes. We're shooting shooting his photo shoot on the actual friends set at Warner Brothers. You know with the actual couch the final and all that stuff and so and so it's GonNa be coming out with us does ever get the office wrong. Oh my God. It's the Ba- it's sold out over him. That's what she said. I'm about to show them here. I am I literally go to officer. The author Salman Show them walking into the arena one day. Oh my gosh we started that campaign for a couple of years actually really awkward four we did we did. We did all that stuff so so arms yes. What's funny is like so the friends like sitting here daydream awesome awesome neural to shoot farms. Oh Yeah we did that. Bears Better yes we did we put the blinds Dwight's blinds budget on Instagram to thing we did the header card but but the thing is going back to trying to bring it back to the branding and the businesses like now like we were on trends. Were also on that next license like that. It's like what's that iconic and we can kinda lead a little bit because we're actual household brand now select the office we can stand on on her own with the office and be the first to it. We'll be the first to friends. We'd be the first space jam which we have space jam for a cool thing with that but so so yes it once we got kind of validated well. It's that same program but just over and over and over in different lanes but it's the same model good people good good quality you know good good business decisions but and we learned that first one and then and then figure out how we can make this a viable business but now what we're doing kind of next level is is like we're doing with not just. PSD Times the licensed but tst times the license times the athlete and like Kyri with their friends neighbors and now I'm bringing you. A triple threat that no brand is doing and it's going to end because we own the contracts. They can't do nothing you have to you have to if the pigeonholed market we have the top athletes. I mean listen. They don't make how many more Kyrie's or are there out there or whatever it is. It's like you have to get somebody else in and how many were signature shoes does Nike have or who can sell merch and the same with licenses if you if you lock them mall up and you make it more powerful with an athlete or celebrity or influence or whatnot. You're just ahead. You're always ahead and I think that's kind of goes back to that Mama mode of you. We never ever of taken our foot off the gas this entire time in thirteen years of flown by that's because we're mode for from day one hopefully thirteen years now. The lighthearted podcast is a you guys are going to live on the Big Screen York if Iraq and Thursday. That's that's a lot of a lot of assets. We see a lot of brands. Coming are coming our world they do. They don't make ever if you ever do some merge we can. Holland and bus. PS Program Yeah Yeah we can do do it. Yeah we've been. We're probably GONNA release the murky he who similar to you guys just kind of like understanding like moments. Where is our he went to you just got traded rated the Pelicans you've been maybe Pelican for like one or two weeks Zuber like highly publicized trade he went to some related to go watch the first game obviously crazy. HIB's ions for Talkin sets courtside in a in a light hearted t shirt and then everyone was like he made an Uber to me. Literally an hour of the story that you guys are like he's about to go to the game and we were like you know what like we. Let's just like why not so I found like a print on demand by in Vegas. The printer happened to be unused. They were able to make it in like twenty minutes. As you guys know is not is not easy. You're calling the shots randomly. It's usually like twenty four forty eight hours and and yeah I I was in L. A. and I- Uber did I had an uber driver. Pick it up at the store in Vegas Hotel goes morning morning and he's talking he he mentioned it because it trade officials of the game with the fit to change the physical to six so I was like not talk to you talk to Griffin all that and I'm able to go to the game so he mentioned. I'm like yeah you know. Maybe it's a possibility if you can get it so that he he does it gets to Uber to me is a two different. Ones are just lighthearted. NEON light signed logo. I guess and then we got our work so those two shirts but they're bovine exploration now. I like mindless note Jim so yes. I'm like how many there were a little long. I'm like no fucker sent some product to some big event. An APP is a aware so then my girlfriend firm McGovern I go to near salons. I'm getting my nails done so he's like Ebay he. He's probably thinking about this whole fucking Dan Yeah Oh. Let's let's try again so he gives that so he's talking to me. I'm not even into hotel right now so he uber's it so he shares. Uber with me and I know I'm disturbed interrupted Hotel Uber at one point. We're at the same light 'cause I'm looking at like tracking the ride. We're so literally look my girlfriend. My girlfriend's next to me. I literally looked at a laugh. It's like a key here said like Iraq yea so I'm looking. I'm dislike. Look at the license play. Lupone like Scherzer's right you know can literally Nagano onto winnowed and we got that like a funny because we've had it where you have some wins and losses in that story we've seen it. We've custom made stuff for plates or remember the show. MTV May system learn half out and yeah yeah but it's funny because you say stuff like that because we always say you get him to the Greek. You know you do these crazy things. you know. I mean honestly we're building brands. I've even seen it where it's like. You know everybody says a basketball players or athletes wannabe rappers rappers. WanNa be or you or athletes want to be in the fashion and fashion wants to be an athlete and and I always you know my big thing. Too is like you know you can read and listen in learn from everyone and anything but then you should apply what you you know so if you have your if you're you know there's a a lot of athletes that try to do brands of fell most of them don't make it with a brand but we're we're part obese modem so one of the things marshawn. Lynch partners and we run beast mode on the back end but we you know he's a he's another smart guy but he's been smart enough to continue to how to build a branding smart people together and I always say with any brand brown but if if you're always making the brand stand on its own and it's not just funded and funded more funding give it more money give it more money if the brand is if it has traction even if it's a little thing like you got you're seeing on. ESPN would that shirt or whatever it was and you sold fifty fifty t shirts. That's a win because you didn't invest and then you take that and you kind of do that snowball but if you're always challenging your brand and making your brand stand it's it's like numbers. Don't lie you. Can you can feed something. That's working and that's kind of what we've always said is like if it's work. It's easy to raise money when it's working. You know it's easy to add more money when it's working. It's just when you have those hard conversations like man that didn't work and are we going to double down. I mean we rebranded yeah. We took the original logo. I'll never forget it because it was. I created it and it was like we gotta change. A lot of people be like no way. I'm staying right well. No you and I know I know you. Gentlemen have a flight to catch soon so I want to get out of here on time but we we end every episode. Something called the light hearted ten where we we ask every guest. Actually it's the first time we've ever used four microphones by the way this double we ask every guest the same the same questions rapid rapid fire so we'll just kind of I go. We can go one by one but of course Oh. What did you guys biggest pet peeve Kurt. My biggest pet peeve is when you have a deal almost done and there's some random guy we call the suit that comes into the end and start changing all the rules the deal when one of our family athlete athlete friends is supposed to be in our briefs then he's wearing some clapped-out breeze on real like you mentioned it though biggest fear fear. I say you know when the when the stories all written done something looking at him. That was a success story. I I have to agree. Successes is everything current. I still think we're successful. If we look in the mirror it's not it's not a not be on on the horizon favorite childhood growing up favorite childhood going favorite cartoon growing up for my man. I some butthead that cows but that was it as funny as it is. I remember being blown away by rugrats. Some I mean it was just because that was like that the next generation of cartoon I was watching shouldn't be why have you always done a rugrats payer. We we did yeah. There's some passion progress in there. That's rugrats collapsed on believe fire a couple years. Nostalgic now is so so big nieces seizes crushing yeah childhood celebrity crush celebrity crush. I mean Pam Anderson. We had that poster on the wall. Jamie Ed all Oh yeah but I I gotTa bring another one Laguna Beach Man. I liked Kristen from my oh. Yes Jay Jay Cutler's yeah yeah yeah. That was my true when I guess he don't wear. PSE would superpower. Would you want superpower man. I'd I'd say that light speed I'm. I'd like to get that running. I'd say to fly. Have you wild if you could switch lives with anyone for a day who would it be. Chandler Parsons for sure all day Denzel Washington out man a CP's got a life. I'll tell you do you channel James. Yeah a friend of ours. Yeah James is a he loves channel. Yeah all they live a life as it's a life and I'll tell you those guys live yeah. James's brother was Joshua's college coach. Okay Okay Yeah Yeah Yeah Yup. What profession other than yours would you like to attempt profession man you know. I like public speaking I really do I like I like inspiring the youth to Kinda bring that that dog fight that that entrepreneur spirits. I think if I was if I was doing something different I be trying to inspire spiers somebody to do something in that inspiring the youth for me I would say I'm always been an artist but I'm in the fashion world so now it's next is my art career. Nice. That's awesome. Can you give the listener instagram page two so they could see your flights. Whatever F L T Z whatever my guys check that out definitely got some dough stuff thank you and then who would play you in the blank movies autobiography Kurt Flights Movie Man. I think it'd be like the Wolf Wall Street. I take Leo's going here. Either that or your Mark Wahlberg kids wear. I like Warburg's mentality. Ah Man I don't know who would play James Franco ZAC Efron by the way I what did the Taito to current Chapter Your Life Chapter of my life man. I think I'll be honest I got. I got three young kids. I gave my I always say I gave my twenties twenties to the business and my thirties. I got three under four years old. So chapter is is kind of that re- that new fire of like why I'm doing what I'm doing because you know you always want your kids to think your dad's a legend and so it's kind of given that like the next phase of you know becoming that that legend in in your kids this is the kind of leave that stamp what you've done with with your life because you don't realize thirteen years of your life is a long time. That's that's a that's a career at other places so thirteen years so our next my next chapter is definitely being trying to leave that legendary stamp for my kids to see mine's searching for the Fountain of Youth Ah Chandler Parsons Life. If Heaven exists what you WanNa hear God's say when you arrive in the legend just a just just a legend yeah I mean I have a feeling having exist. Guy's GonNa be shaking his head as I'm walking up with a big old smile on his face like damn I I love it. thanks so much for the podcast in kind of giving our listeners of you into you know the the grind it takes used to be successful and you know whatever business you. WanNa be in so thank you very much for coming on yeah. Thank you good underwear for everybody.

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Special Episode: Josh Duggar is a POS

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Special Episode: Josh Duggar is a POS

"Hello everyone welcome to tv. Literate a podcast. Unapologetically enjoys trashy tv. I'm gillian meghan. We're here. We're a little bit late but we're here we're here and i'm pretty sure there's a reason why we weren't able to record of the day we were supposed to record god because the universe knew that there was some news coming out that we were gonna want to talk about Somebody was getting their come up. And it's yeah. I think before we get started with this episode. I want to just give a big trigger. Warning because this episode is not really like any of our other episodes. Because we're going to just basically be spending the whole time talking about josh doug because there's just so much to talk about and so this is a major trigger warning for sexual abuse child abuse all that stuff. Yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be it's gonna be bad. Yeah we're gonna. I'm gonna survive type thing. I'm gonna put some sources to any sexual abuse charities and helplines and stuff so people can get anything if they're feeling triggered with all this news being everywhere right now yes. Yeah for sure so. Take care of yourselves and skip this one. If you need to understand yes we've still love you. We will always do we do. And we will be back to talking about the circle next week and we'll hopefully have you back to our normal schedule next week as well so this is kind of a special. Let's scream about. Josh duggar episode. Yeah i feel like it's kind of the moment. We all need Right now because we just need to do a scam. We do so. I guess just in case you've been living under a rock on thursday evening. Josh duggar was arrested And at the beginning we didn't know why he was arrested. We just hear. It was arrested by the feds and he was being held without bond without bond. Yes so like something big is going on. It's not just like. I don't know traffic violation of some sort. Yeah you know and so there was obviously some kind of different thoughts going on. Like i know back in the fall and even before that there was lots of like lots of raids by the feds going on in some of the businesses and a lot of people kind of thought maybe it has to do with money laundering and honestly. I wish that's what it was. I wear. That's what it was. But i knew deep down that is not what it was gonna be. Yep and unfortunately we were proven. Correct the next morning when he was charged with child pornography. Yeah yeah which is fucking gross and we fucking hate this guy. Also i feel like everyone should a fucking known. Yeah i mean like let's not forget. This is the same guy who molested his younger sisters and a lot of people. I don't think really like pay attention to it. Like he was fifteen years old he he was a teenager like he wasn't a child. Yeah yeah it wasn't like they were the same age it was like he was a basically an adult. Yes and some of the siblings were around his age but one of the siblings was five years old at the time. Yeah i mean that's concerning behavior for fifteen year old to want to sexually molest a five year old at all like that alone is like that needs some serious serious. How yeah and not the kind of help that you get from the fucking duggar psychiatrists that. I'm sure that they have the ib lp therapists. Just tell you it's all your fault. Just depress it and you'll be okay. Yeah i think. Josh went to alert camp. And it's like no that's not that's not gonna mess not gonna do sorry no. It's not not a problem with his masculinity or faith in jesus it is a problem with him preferring children. Yes which is a problem. That's a big problem especially for a guy who has six children one on the way. I don't think we ever talked about that but Anna and that she is pregnant with their seventh baby a couple of weeks ago. And it's a girl and so that's great. He has six kids at home not to mention he lives on the duggar property so he has access to so many kids so in the duggar house all his nieces and nephews that are always over like it is a real life horror story to think about this and it makes me sick. Yeah horrible and like okay. So i don't know when josh got married and moved out but i assume it was twentyish like he had like infants in the home and got married like five years after he molested. People like sir. Absolutely the fuck not no. I know it's just. It's all just so mind boggling. And i think the worst part about it all is like how unsurprising it is because not only is it just like disturbing and it says a lot about like the culture of fundamentalism like the sexual abuse and things that are like seeped so deep within it but it just like it makes me sick to think how jim bob and michelle like they. Just let this happen around their kids around their grandkids. And it's like they. They knew that there was a problem because they never got it looked at. I don't know if it was pride. I don't know if it was just because of their crazy religious thoughts. I don't know what it was but like it's they are partially responsible for it. Yeah and like. I don't often agree. That parents are directly responsible for their child's like i don't always think moms moms being shitty to their son's make serial killers like lots of moms really shady and lots of sons are not serial killers so this is like you would protect your own children like you should like the ones that are small and still young and the ones that could be victimized like does your job as a parent so yes. Yeah that's that's where the fundamental bare minimum job as a parent is like not. Put your kids in direct danger so and just fucked in relation to this. I was on tumbler and read it. And everything looking at stuff right and Did you see the body safety rules. They have hung in the big house and have had hung cents. Josh molested everyone. I don't think so okay. Body safety rules number one. My body belongs to god and he gives good rules to help. Keep me safe number two. No one touches my private parts but me number three. I keep my clothes on except when washing number four. No secrets a talk with mom and dad about tickles back scratches wrestling and any other touches number five. I locked the restroom door and dress and bathe by myself number six. I stay in a group. I don't pay off in twos or threes number seven when playing hide and seek. I don't hide with others. I hide by myself lake. They fucking knew they knew like that is so specific to and also like. I don't even know how i if you live in a house that has to have those rules posted on the wall. Like that is fucking concerning one thing to teach your kids like safety. Stranger danger that kind of thing like yeah important valid but like to have those posted around your house and specifically obviously talking about other family members like what the fuck you shall not allow josh to live on your property at all a- no and like most parents would teach their kids you know. Don't go out by yourself. Always have a buddy so like always have like another person around. This is like don't go off into like shits. Fuck it happening on a regular enough basis that they fucking no yeah. It's scary to think. Like in the duggar house. You're safer alone than you are with somebody else. Yeah you're you're safest in the bathroom with a locked door. That i hate that so much and like we only know about josh because he also molested someone outside of the family right and like it just makes me. Curious is the word that i'm looking for but like it makes me very suspicious that there are other members of the family that have either been molested or molested people certainly. I mean. they're almost almost has to be some things that are not have not been brought to light and won't be brought to light. Yeah but it's just. I don't even think about it because right so like on the like shit. That could happen inside. The family about this people have been talking about. What's what might happen with tyler. Because they not a like a blood relation and no one really knows if he was like legally adopted or if he's just being raised by other family members and like what that's gonna do. So yeah that's that's an interesting thought to yeah. I don't know about the legal details. Just know that he had that michelle got guardianship of him. And i think it was rumored that he was adopted. But i don't know for sure so that is interesting Also something i wanted to note. Is that there for a while. And i don't know it's hard to tell if this was going on even recently or if the stopped like a year ago the used to have a live in babysitter who was like a fifteen year old girl and she was hold on a house. Hit my no to shula. I'm having just like a minor stroke. Overhear yes so her name is emily. I don't know if she's like in our teens though. He's like a not a kid but like a young adult right not an adult and she supposedly was helping anna with the kids. she was She's michelle sister sisters pamelas granddaughter. Holy and she was living with them for a while. I don't know if she's still living with them. It looks like they were trying to kind of cover it up. It's like that is disgusting and it scares me. That scares the shit out of me and makes me like so much more mad anna because like as of right now anna is just in a very vulnerable position. Trying to figure out what's best for her and her kids and i can't imagine that josh is a particularly good husband now it reform. I have such weird feelings about and we can talk a little bit about it because that's another point button in one way. I think she's probably very much a victim of josh. Yes and fundamentalism. Yes but in in another way. It is just really hard for me to have sympathy for someone who knowingly let her children to be around a pedophile. Like i just. I can't i cannot i just i. Kind of feel like maybe. She's just a victim of the sunk cost fallacy on this because i don't think do we know that she knew before it came out. He said she did she so say she knew before she got married at her and her parents had a talk with hours before she got married about what happened. So yes. that's us. But if they did yes what if. They're just a might not have but regardless. I don't know it's just like she. I don't know it's just really hard for me. Especially because this is not his first scandal this his third scandal two of which have involved miners. Yeah and i just i can't. I can't really get all the way there. I know that she is very much in the shit and like does it have a lot of outs. But at the same time it is just so hard for me to think to believe that like there was no opportunity her to. I don't even know honestly the only thing that i can think of. That's like okay yes no. I totally thinks she's fine. Like whatever like not blameless but like not shouldn't be prosecuted is like josh would have driven her fuck into the ground for custody of those children. Right but i just don't have. That would have had like would've gotten custody of them his background and the fact that he's like i mean in most courts and i'm sure arkansas is different like they're going to heavily favor. The bomb and i have statistics that blew my fucking mind the other day. Oh no and i have to tell you so. They did like a longitudinal. Study about the cases and men win custody fifty nine percent of the time and like it was like something like twenty percent of men never even sued for custody. Were just given it by courts so it is crazy but at the same time i just have a really hard time thinking. They would give josh after. He's been accused of raping a five year old like i. Even i have to have a little bit better faith in the american justice system has like the court system. They would have to go with anna like john. Not only that. But josh doesn't have any type of job either like it's not like he has anything over her. She has everything plus the fact that she didn't rape children But see my thing. It'd be they'd probably be like. Oh you know she doesn't have a job. She has no way of caring for these kids. So i don't we have a good old. Jim bob get custody. Who will then. Just give the kids to josh. Yeah i don't know. I just don't i just have a hard time believing what happened. Okay so i'm gonna totally fuck up with this one to this is another. This is a personal anecdote from a friend of mine. And i'm going to anonymous as heavily as i can. So a friend of mine has a relation who was involved in not only the receiving and viewing of child sexual abuse images but was involved in the production side of them and he got three years in jail. That's fucked. I mean that is fucked but i still think different custody of the kids but yeah i mean i. I'll be the first to admit the court system in america like fuck like sentences. Make no sense to me. It's all sucked up but it's just like come on like i know it's like you can do the maximum you can get for this. This is twenty years which that's nothing. Yeah that shouldn't it should be a lot longer than that. There should be life ten years and image. Yeah exactly god i just. It's just it's just so horrifying to think about all so fucking horrifying. I don't. I don't know i don't know i hate all of this and i hate josh. Duggar so fucking much. And i hate illegal system. Because they're probably not going to protect his own kids because even if he has if he's on the sexual offender registry it doesn't count towards your own blood relatives unless they do like extra stuff. Yeah i don't know. We'll see. I know he has a he. Has he Trial i think may fifth to see if he's going to be allowed out but if he is allowed out he's not allowed to run any kids even his own. Yeah so that was good at least I'm hoping they won't let them out. But just brought. I don't know if they would especially with josh. Actually being kind of tech savvy. I don't think they would. yeah. I hope not. But we'll see we'll be allowed around kind of house arrest with no like internet access or something. That'd be good. Yeah that's like a prison and so yeah yeah it's a much more humane prison. Let's be real right. Yeah so. I don't even know what the fuck is going to happen. But i have so much stress about all of the children that live in duggar compound i know. I know it's just oh god and like like you said like is josh. The only abuser in the family there. I mean if josh was able to get to this point. And i know that like i'm not saying that all pedophile are like because of a there were raised frog. I admit that there's like something fundamentally wrong with a pedophile. Yes that's just it but like this culture like this hypo any type of there's just so much sexual repression and and just not. It's just all fucked up. That i would not be surprised if there was a lot. More abuse going with other people to while in fundamentalism is like so rooted in masculine power and like a literal interpretation of the patriarchy lake. A man should be the head of the household. Should be the thing that matters right and it's like a woman pretty much has to do whatever their husband says so like they really don't get a choice on whether or not they want to have sex. It's like well. My husband wants to have sex. So i have to have sex. That's not in sensual sex. So yeah and i know. There are a lot of rumors around the ashley. madison stuff. That like she knew but couldn't stop it because it's it's the husband's decision and the wife you just have to keep sweet and it's your fault that he's gonna say i think i remember there being like some like her like blaming herself for it because it's like and that's like the thought process is like oh my husband's cheating on me. I'm doing something wrong. Because he should want to cheat on me. Yeah no that is fucked up like beyond fucked up. It's so fucked up. But i mean that thinking even goes into the normal world. Outside of funding women are so much told that like. Oh yeah you know if your partner cheats. It's probably because he wasn't getting what he needed. It would definitely definitely. And so it's it's from all fucking sides absolutely absolutely. Yeah all right so one of the kind of things to think about what this is. The future of the duggar. Tlc in that kind of thing and so tlc released a statement. I will read it really quickly. Tlc is saddened to learn about the continued troubles involving josh. Duggar the network and this okay. Nineteen kids and counting has not aired since two thousand fifteen. Tlc cancel the show on the heels of prior allegations against josh duggar and he has not appealed on appeared on air since then And yeah. I don't think this is a great statement from tlc. Like i i point is josh duggar has abso fucking lutely appeared on counting on like we. We all see him sometimes. So that's a fucking lie amazon. Their kids are on their. somebody's profiting from it. As we talked about in the later. Seasons of counting on. Jim bob and michelle were heavily feature where they weren't at all in the beginning season. Because that was like the whole thing was distancing it from the parents. I bet they're fucking regret that now. Yeah but yeah. I can just totally see. Tlc connor may be waiting a little bit and then either getting back on counting on or maybe just doing some specials and saying like well. This show has nothing to do with josh duggar. The whole like we wanted the show to be about the sisters after the scandal and so it would make sense to keep doing it. Because it's not josh duggar. We're not promoting josh duggar. But it's like but you are promoting. Jim bob and michelle and they're profiting off of this show and like they are partially responsible for josh duggar. Being as big of a shit as he is so. And it's like it was about justin. Jill and how a like how they were victims of josh. And then jill. I mean got rightfully kicked off of tlc. Because derek's a piece of shit. But he is less of a piece of shit than josh. And jim bob which is saying something. Because he's a transphobic like last fucking pedophile no rate. It's pretty bad when the he's just a justice transfer but he just hates people based on who they are. He doesn't want to like sexually look at children. God it is scraping the bottom of the fucking barrel. This is it really is. But i don't know it's just it'll be interesting to see the path that deal sea chooses to go because i don't know i don't have a lot of faith in them no i don't either especially because this is just big old fucking drama. So unless says lake. Hey none of these children can be on tv thin. They're not gonna fucking cancel it right and i mean it's like you said it's dramatic. They know that they could probably get a lot of us on mica. How are we coping with this episode. And you know further episodes about that. They know they know that this is like a cash opportunity for them. And it's gross. Well unlike you can just here in. They're sneaky little fuck in reality. Tv minds because as much as i love reality tv. I have interviews with reality tv show producers and they are fucking skis balls. Most the time Like you can just hear them being like. Oh maybe we should give like anna. Especial if she divorces him being the first divorced fundy if she still accepted into the duggar clan. Yeah definitely i don't i don't i. I have no idea what anna is going to do. I really don't. I have no idea. No good options. So that's how bad well since we're on statements. Let's see the duggar family statement was similarly but it was. We appreciate your continued prayers for our family at this time. The accusations brought against joshua. Today are very serious. It is our prayer that the truth no matter what it is will come to light and that this will all be resolved in a timely manner. We love josh and anna and continue to pray for their family like yeah. I'm not praying for for you or your family at all. I kind of feel like. I don't think i would publicly say i love this person who is no. I wouldn't i would like they need to be making it clear that what josh did was awful. And they're not they're saying like. I hope the truth comes to light. They're very serious accusations. It's like no you need to. You need to be firmer that like this is despicable and even though he's your son you need to speak out against that and like i don't wanna fuck in rank people's trauma here but like someone looking at child sexual abuse photos and someone actually abusing. A child are just a hair different. Just a hair because it's both fucking exploitative terrible but like this dudes now done both yes yes so i know denying it now but i remember. I watched a part of an interview that was on right at today and it was basically jim. This was right after the first. Josh duggar scandal is brought to light. And i think this was a fuck on fox news interview. Yeah and i guess. The interviewer was asking jim. Bob like why. He doesn't think that josh is a pedophile. Based on what he did and he was like and jim bob was like well. He was fifteen at the time. And you can't be a pedophile unless you're sixteen. You can't be an adult preying on a child unless you're sixteen so in this case it was just a child. Preying on a child. Who is his exact words. And it's like that's still fucked up first of all that doesn't make it literally any better and second of all now we know that he literate like. He's in his thirties. Now looking at child porn. There's no denying that he's a pedophile. No they all have admitted that he did the things to his sisters that he did. He has said that he did. The duggar page patriot. Well god the duggar parents did. Like everyone has a had him at mit essentially to this crime that i think he could still theoretically be prosecuted for. Because i don't think there's a time limit on child abuse like child sexual abuse. I don't know. I think there were some technicalities that yeah he couldn't and i don't know i mean it's probably the responding officer was then later Locked up for child fatality. Yeah shocking shocking Okay our next statement is jessica's which is i'm sure it's written by a pr person because sure all these are yeah jazz until especially you're not going to be on social media to see any fucking of this because they're like no we find a new. That's the before we get into the statement. I feel i just want to like. I feel so fucking bad for his particularly the siblings. That were abused by him. Because i cannot imagine how triggering this is for them. God and i just. I don't know i just feel so fucking bad for them. Yeah that's big enough news that it would be on the nightly news and shit like you can't. You're not safe and watching netflix. And everyone everyone in the like everyone in the area knows about it now. I'm sure it's been all over the news there and they're not gonna be able to go to. The grocery store without being stared at and people are going to be talking whispering about it. It's like oh god. I feel bad for them. And it's so shitty 'cause like it's so hard to circle the square of like how fundamentalism is so bad and so brainwashing and so it covers up abuse and create situations of abuse. But then these people are just abusers and other people are just victims. And it's like i don't. I have so many complicated feelings for the story. And it's so hard to me that makes it makes except for except for josh duggar. I have no complicated feelings for josh. Duggar for and ship. Bob and michelle honestly but everyone else like anna and obviously the siblings like it's just it's so hard it's so hard because of like it's a balance of like i feel awful for them but at the same time like disgusted by the way they live so It's hard it's really hard. So fucking hard justice statement was. We are saddened to hear of the charges against josh. As christian we stand against any form of pornography or abuse and we desire for the truth to be exposed. Whatever that may be our prayers are with the family as they walked through this difficult time. And since i don't believe jessica road this. I think somebody posted honor account for her. I want to tell that christian evangelical pr manager to go fuck themselves because child pornography is not any way equivalent to any other form appoint. Now this is this statement. His me off so fucking much because yeah it's like they're just saying like yeah. We don't agree with pornography but it's like your husband or your brother would not be arrested for watching pornography that's not illegal you might be opposed to it but like really there's nothing wrong with watching pornography of consenting adults. That's yeah whatever seriously the like comparing it even in the slightest to watch and child porn is like infuriating to me because that's like saying that the people who watch regular porn are as bad as people who watch child porn just like no honey. No you are missing several layers to this. Yeah and that's the thing because in fundamentalism essentially all of these like high level sends are exactly the same level of sin. So you know go do your confession. Your eight hail marys. I mean that's catholic. But i don't know what the fundamentalist do like but Like yeah you you go and you do it for anything. And it's the same treatment for any cause basically right. Yeah and i mean. That's i think that's totally the truth. And that's like part of like the start of where things went wrong. I think because like about in the fact that like they are taught like they can't even touch themselves and like like when you're a teenager teenage boy like that is just a natural thing that happens and this not it's your own body there's nothing wrong with masturbating. They get punished for that. Like there is a story that i think one of the boys got caught masturbating and jim. Bob made him tie his hands together and punished him for not being able to do the chores because his hands were tied together. Like no. that's not okay. Because you know that like when josh duggar was found molesting his sister's like his punishment was no more severe than that from parents. Yeah i mean. He went to the same camp. That does i got sent to probably being gay. Like it's there's just levels of harm that they have no conception of and it's so frustrating because like yeah sure you can be against pornography. Would their arguments where people are like. You know it's always exploitative it's always patriarchal or whatever but that that's fair i just would also just like a normal thing sexist thing. It's a biological thing that we like to do. It wouldn't feel good if biology didn't say that it felt good basically. Yeah and. I don't know it's just this statement pissed me off the most. I think it was particularly disappointing. And i know like you said. I'm sure it was not written by jessa or even posted by jessica but it was particularly disturbing to see this from one of josh's victim. Yeah like they should have had the pr lady. Put on the the duggar family instagram. Or something. not talking jessica's it just feels like should he move all around. It's just. It's like weird to hear the quote unquote jessica minimizing child sexual assault when she was sexually assaulted as a child. It's just like really disturbing to me. yeah. And i. Just i can't. It's not her. I don't think it. Oh yeah. I don't think. I like ninety nine point nine percent chance this was written by someone not desa yes. I agree but any. Yeah gross but i did notice that they said our prayers are with their family which is interesting 'cause josh is her family. Yeah i don't i don't really know it is. It's very weird. Yeah it may have just been. Somebody sent an email to be like. Hey this is the thing. You should post for jessica. And then they're like okay. You know say that we feel bad for their family. And they didn't rate switched the pronoun. Exactly yeah i don't know i don't have a lot of faith and people writing statements for the duggar so no okay so i have another little piece of fundy dish. Let's get into it shit dish poop dish. It's a poop dish. And it's from the The founder william go third whatever who also got yet for. I think a using children not sure. I don't know there's definitely some like it was definitely assault of a variety. I'm not sure if it was a child or a young adult but either way not good. Yeah both very bad. this is okay. So this is a page out of their Like therapy counseling books. That i found how so. It's called counseling sexual abuse. So the first thing says the parts of our being and it's these concentric circles and in the inside is your spirit than outside of that is your mind then your will and then your soul then your emotions and then your body so your body is the least important thing to live a holy life and then asked you all these kind of like fill in the blank questions. About what part is the most important. Which is the next most important which is the least important and then gives you like bible thing bible verses for each of them. What did the offender damage. What parts do we damage with bitterness and guilt. It's just walking this. Is i'm i'm only on part three. There's ten god number four. Why did god let it happen. Result of by immodest dress indecent exposure being out from protection of our parents or being with evil friends number five more victim blaming right. No no number five. Is there any guilt for disobedience for not reporting it failing to report it allows others to also be abused. And it's like okay. Even walk at the child molester said that do that. Oh god okay. Now we get to number six. If the abused not at fault god compensated physical abuse with spiritual power. What is being mighty in spirit greater faith spiritual discernment genuine love wisdom and understanding creativity inner energy enthusiasm and joy an inner peace. This is what you can gain from being sexually abused. Apparently no no no i. I have like literal like nope goosebumps right now. Oh yeah me too. Came and see like my. This is giving me such bad vibes. It's so bad. So seven example. Daniel extreme abuse unique. I don't really know why they needed to know he was a unique or was the abuse the eunuch vacation. I don't i don't know now but he was oh the biblical daniel. He was abused and his balls. Were cut off. I guess and he ended up full of wisdom and understanding in the counselor to four kings. Oh great thank god you got those balls cut off and in. He was abused so number. Eight if you had to choose no physical abuse or to be mighty and spirit. Which would you choose no physical abuse. Yeah i'll be weakest shit as long as safe please. Physical abuse number nine reasons for bitterness. He damaged your body important. Step dedicate your body to god. Your body is god's body body. Is your body your body's your fucking body and nobody else's body but yours. Yeah i'm gonna make the decisions for it like literally at every single point in your life. Your body will always be your body. Yep and until you die then at somebody else's but that's it scientists body next donate to science yes okay and then finally number ten prayer to dedicate body to god. Place yourself on his alter to serve him. Forgive the offender. Turn over to god for his disciple or ask god to pardon him. Regains surrendered ground cleanse with r- ramos. I don't know what that means but that sounds terrible. Yeah what is that. it's gross. it's fact up. i don't know but apparently it's just like pray the assault away. Oh good yeah. So they're definitely doing great. Those counseling sessions that they probably had jilin jessica to bolt. If it wasn't your fault. Still probably your fault. That's one of my biggest problems with jim. Bob and michelle is that like they. It's just like in every step of the way. They fails their children the way every single fucking obviously good parents can have something awful like that happen to their child. There's steps that you need to take and things that you need to do to make sure that that child is getting help and can like move on with that and like actual like proper help and as properly being. I don't even know like it's just like despicable to me that they like this. We know that this is the only type type of therapy the if they even got that that the victims got so. Oh god just. It's horrifying. And i just really hope. I know that jill's been in a therapist. And i really hope that that's helped her a lot and that she's gone through a lot. But i think. I'm really hoping that the other victims will get some actual real therapy owain better late than never but still awful that they weren't given that right way so like the thing that disturbs me. The most about this is that the converse then has to be true for the counseling that they give for the offenders as they call them. So why did you do this. Where are you tempted by. Women where you biologically designed to want to procreate and i don't know fucking ass shit like it's all the stuff like you know pray pray the urges away. Yeah but then totally indulge the power trip of being the head of the household right. It's yeah just. There's just so many like gross layers to it that it's just kind of inescapable all the way down. Yeah yeah. I don't know. I guess it's really fucked up that kind of essentially this is saying like the center of the a salty is equivalent to the center of the assaulter matt's like i said just victim blaming and it's fucking bullshit like any time somebody molest somebody else. The user is one hundred percent at fault one hundred percent. Yeah yeah. I don't care if the five year old was fucking dancing dish akira. That is not a sexual thing. Also like yeah like his victims were literal like your pre teens and children and you're saying that they were acting inappropriately like no no and that's why like they have their kids where like undershirts and like we're like such weird clothing restrictions and it's just it's disturbing to think about why that is yeah. I always thought it was weird that all the little girls wore the skirts down to the knee and then the leggings underneath them but like now it's basically just a fucking cloth chastity belt to hope that they don't get attacked by somebody in their own fucking family. I know it's just horrifying like like. I said this is like real life horror shit. This is so bullshit. I'm so i'm so mad at all of them. Yup except for the people who are abused. Obviously but all. Everybody is stuck in involved in this shit. It's not just josh. Like obviously josh is the biggest offender like like fuck him in every way but like he i don't know he had enablers around him and to turn a blind eye and that is not okay to do particularly when it involves children like defenseless children. You need to stand up for children who cannot stand up for themselves. Yeah and it's not like it's pictures of like kids at a fucking playground that he is looking at how and whatever it's like horrible exploitative sexual abuse images of children under the age of twelve was what i think that. Yeah yeah yes so disturbing. I just i don't even like i don't know i know we're like nitpicking. And know overall think this is so bad and terrible but like it's it's just so many things that could have stopped. And i know i know and it's like it's the worst. The worst part about all of this is that like like. I said it's not surprising. This is his liberal third scandal to which involves sexual abuse of minors there. It's not like this came out of nowhere. This should have missed. Should have been known. I think like the most fucked up thing. Well one of the most fucked up things is think. I read somewhere that this particular investigation started in may two thousand nineteen. I know like obviously like takes a long time to get all the information to make an arrest. Whatever but like josh got his wife pregnant and he knew he was under investigation for this. Yeah i kind of hope. Maybe they didn't know i think. Josh new yeah dos had to know michelle and the may not have no. I don't know if they did. And i hesitate to like blame and forgetting pregnant because i really don't think she has much of a choice in that matter so yeah josh knowingly got his wife pregnant knowing he was probably going to get fucking talked on child porn charges. Yeah no there's so many deeper layers to that just so fucking pernicious and he is just an evil piece of shed. Evil evil evil. So i wanna start that. I'm not in any way a pedophile apologised. I think those are urges that you will always know are wrong. You know that wrong. That's why you hide them. So like exactly when he was fifteen if they had sent him to like an actual lake institution. That was four people. Who had you know mentally unwell urges. Yeah they would have gotten him proper help like he might have been able to be re rehabilitated. A little bit. Yeah but it's also so hard because it's like a double edge sword because like where the paedophile re- rehabilitation centers. Like i don't know if i would know who to contact necessarily definitely but it's not the church it. You should definitely go get like actual like licensed therapist helped. They can probably put you in some directions. Just do some type like the bare minimum. I'm not excuse what he did in the past but might prevent him from being so fucking disgusting now and it's like if the feigin cop that had come out there hadn't been a pedophile as well. Maybe they could have had lake social workers come by and give them resources or someone to like. Help therapies him into not acting on his fucking urges. Yeah 'cause like. I mean there's supposedly psychologically nothing fully broken about pedophiles just that it's a bad thing to do. Obviously and a bad like bad to have but like you you can train yourself out of those which seems kind of like fucking conversion therapy but it's not 'cause it's actually like a mile assaulted always going to say being gay is not bad. Being a pedophile is bad. Yeah exactly like conversion therapy torturing someone for who they are being a pedophile is not who you are like you're not people aren't consenting to these interactions of under sixteen camp consent to these action literally cannot. Yeah it's just it's so it's so infuriating and it's just i just think about and i mean we don't know and i don't want to speculate on like weather. This went further than child porn and it went into abusive his own children and things like that but like just the thought that he had he had so much access to so many young kids. 'cause he lives on the duggar property he sees his nieces and nephews all the time like that. It just makes me sick. Yeah and i'm sure like anna has them in the house with her when their babysitting for the other family is like they'll have like eight kids in there at a time i. It's just the the thought like since chills down my spine Yeah yeah on. Asli the only thing that i think that it would. It would be satisfying to me. If anna came out and said i stayed because i didn't want him to get the kids and abused them or you know for any amount of time even if it was just like well custody was being arranged like i would be like okay. Okay as long as you're divorcing now and he doesn't get to see his fucking kids and he's on. The sex offender registry were square bright. But i don't think that's going to happen. I don't think so either. Just just based on her track record of like. I will stand by my husband no matter what like the one of the biggest like pillars of christianity is forgiveness and being like a divine forgiveness. And it's like no there's a. There's a point where you can stop forgiving people. Yeah and like. I would just like to say you know in catholicism the mortal ends are like breaking the ten commandments and vehicles ends are like everything else and so like even god new. Let's say in the penn fucking bible. He didn't say how shall not be a pedophile. Like that was just an assumption. Y- like you should know. You should know though i guess. Christianity was really into child brides real long time so maybe it was just not a sin. Yeah that's probably more likely fuck well. I'm rewriting the bible. Okay down. I'm just going to start saying things and most people haven't read the bible. So how can. I have read the bible. I read the whole thing once keiler has to. It's not bad. I mean i i. It's a good piece of fiction. It's it's a nice adventure. Yeah i like the dude. The whale like yeah. The guy fucking swail shot at a giant to death. that's it. there's some crazy fucking shit in the bible. This i lived in a whale and then got back out like. That's i wouldn't mind living in a whale for awhile. I can think of worse things like living with josh. Doug yes yeah fuck gross. Who also apparently i heard. This is just a brief thing. But i heard that During his arraignment friday. I think it was. He was like laughing smiling. Like being a complete copy asshole So i just. I don't even know if the severity of it as like. I don't know if he cares. I don't. I don't know i have no idea. His fucking smirking mugshot. God i know. I ooh i it makes me wanna punch. I've never wanted to punch somebody so bad my life and it was like okay. Maybe just getting by the feds for tax evasion and fraud or whatever guns. I don't know when we were all still kind of positing that kind of stuff. I was like it's a very lake I would have got away with it too if we want for your stink kids kind of thing and then it just turned something that was so fucking evil like he's just like oh yeah you know they read me my charges and i'm here smirking. Yeah it's it's so much like it was. It was a very interesting experience like a roller coaster too. Because i like. When i found out he was arrested. My first thought was child porn. And i was like it's probably child porn or something to do with him being a fucking crazy pedophile. And but i was like but but but like maybe it's not and it was like happy day that he got arrested and i'm still very happy that he got arrested obviously like regardless of what he did. I'm glad that y- has to face repercussions for now but like it turned a whole lot darker the next day. Yeah it was like confirmed that it was child porn and it's just like them just like the just completely changed they had. I mean none of us wanted him to be like a serial abuser obvious. Oh that's the thing we were all like you know. He's shown these really bad things but we're going to hope for the best and say that he is just like a regular piece of shit. Yeah but not. I know no i mean not a regular piece of shit. You know my. I thought i was texting you. And i was like fuck would've asked the gate stuff so again also went towards minors immediately definitely. Yeah that's just knowing his past just the first thing that goes to my mind. And i like. He has like the so the second scandal which we haven't talked a lot about in this episode because it's not related to kids but he was caught with on ashley madison and he cheated on and he comes out and basically says like he has a sex addiction and he goes to his christian therapy whatever but like just like knowing that he's a sex addict and that he has sexually abused. Minors like my. That's the only place that my my thoughts could go. Yeah honestly like the biggest part of that scandal that like most people kind of forgot about. I even forgot about it. But one of the ladies that he met on ashley. Madison was a porn star. Who press charges against him And yeah i remember reading some quotes from her saying that like the sex that she had with. Josh duggar was the most violent sex that she's ever had and she was like legitimately scared which is saying something where he work in the sex industry. Because yeah like do you think trip any desensitized. Yeah i don't know. Just like that. Horrifies me for anna and all of his victims no yeah i mean it just speaks even more even if he's only been violently sexual with theoretically consenting partners at least they're of age like right even if that is the only thing that's that would be a huge thing. Yeah that's still disgusting. An awful and like ria sirnak a huge red flag and like so based in fucking power insecurity and shit like the only reason that you want to hurt someone during sex like physically really hurt them is like because you wanna have power over them right. Yeah and that's never a good dynamic no with anything really but especially with a sexual relationship. Yeah yeah and with where the person is not aware that. That's what's gonna fucking happen like if you've you're bedia 'em and everyone's consenting into being on pit. That's fine whatever you do you. But y'all got to have that conversation. I everybody's got their unimpaired and uncoerced set a safe word You know the whole nine yards pa. Yeah that's something that should be addressed. Yeah that takes all the power out of it because everyone has the power when rain. Just say no exactly cursed men accursed. Why should i just. I'm maybe we'll just like roll up on the end of this episode with a big theoretical question of why are men and the american christian right so fucked up. That is a great question. And i really wish that i had a solid answer for you. And as a phenomena that we are constantly experiencing. we're fucking really live in through it man. Like dudes have historically always kind of sucked in general but like yes. Wow it feels like it's it's ramping up into new and inventive ways of sucking and you're right or at least we're hearing about it more often. Maybe that's just it. Yeah yeah so. Yeah i don't really know i don't think there's i don't think i have anything else to say. I mean we just kinda needed a space to scream about all of our feelings and deal with all of the sticky webs that it connects to because it's like right it's so hard to extricate your feelings like fuck ya fuck this pedophile. He's a piece of shit. But then it's like there's all these other people who are range from victim to enabler to maybe you know other abusers and stuff it's like i said it's great that he was arrested and that he is going to hopefully really get some consequences for this And so it's hard because you're feeling happy about that but obviously like hearing that like it wasn't just like money crime. It was like a crime where their victims involved even if it wasn't necessarily josh who victim well directly victimized them It it really just changes. They're just so many layers of emotions to it and just really back on that nausea train right back on right back on. I had halfway gotten over my Duggar related barf vibe. And now we're back. We're back we're back. That's that's the crazy thing too is like when we were recording all of our counting on episodes like in the fall and winter we were in the duggar drought and then all of a sudden we to superspreader weddings had a new baby. Justice new baby. Anna's new baby and then we had this. It's like a fucking dam breaking. Yeah so much doug just and it's all bad bad dumpster. Even the weddings of this case. Were bad because they were spreader. Events well and like one out of three pregnancies was bad. Because it's anna's yup Gross odd gross. So on that. now. I think we're going to wrap is episode up like i said this is just kind of a special episode because of the news we'll be back to are normally scheduled tv talk next week with the circle and if you have anything you want to say about today's episode about josh about about suggestions for things that we want you want us to talk about in the future you can send us an email at tv literate at g mail dot com and you can find us everywhere on the internet at tv literate. We're on instagram. Tumbler read it facebook. What am i forgetting patriotic. And everything. we're just everywhere. Just look for us I would like to thank the like ten people who sent us the mugshot of. Yes josh as it happened. Because i was not schooling my phone that day. We got the news right away. Not just thanks to you guys. We appreciate you more than we could say. Yeah it was so good to like scream with you guys in my heart. It was good too. Because i was literally about to take a nap right when you sent me that and then i was like gone. I did not sleep through that. You're like sorry. I can't sleep too. Busy gotta go feigen help this guy. Get in jail for real. Yeah jillian said. We will have resources with this episode. The show notes. Yeah yeah for sexual abuse and all kinds of stuff so if you need them feel free to use them and share them with other people as well and we will see you guys next week with a normal episode of tv literate by by an fucked duggar and fuck josh duggar.

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MSG002: Business Jargon (Josh Li)

Mandarin Slang Guide

18:34 min | 1 year ago

MSG002: Business Jargon (Josh Li)

"Hello and welcome come to Mandarin slaying guide. MSG The Chinese show that tastes great. And probably isn't all that bad for you on your host Joshua Ogden Davis and it's my job Bob to give you all those delicious Chinese Slang words that your textbook just isn't telling you Today we're GonNa talk about some business jargon just like English has pervasive buzzwords like synergy or disruption. Chinese has lots of business business jargon. And if you're working with or working in a Chinese company I guarantee you've run into some of these words before today will focus on these words. Lindahl Daul leader twelve. Seen Innovation Tool poor breakthrough good you structure and a few weather's to help us understand these words and the culture behind them. I've asked old friend and former business rival Josh Lee to walk us through it all. Hi Josh Hi Josh. Josh Josh is an impressive man and co-founder and Also Managing Director of Marketing Group and we marketing. Actually Our name is we we w we had an as a single that is east Miss West. He helps foreign companies enter the Chinese market and he helps Chinese companies. Go abroad so he is at the epicenter. Epicenter of Cross Cultural Communication. And he's a very busy man but nonetheless. He took the time to read this very silly conversation and help us learn some slang. Are you ready. Let's go these only on women shower to Finan neither. Then we'll go chauncey Chamisa visa tool people. How by now watched one guy so we giving? We've all did you. You get it all. Don't worry Josh and I will talk you through it but first I wanted to talk with Josh about some of the cultural differences that you'll run into if you work for or interact with Chinese companies. I talked with Josh for over an hour and he gave a masterclass in business culture. But this is a slang podcast so for today. I'll just share some of the highlights that relate directly to how you should communicate with your own Chinese Co workers at some point in the future. I'll probably release the whole interview as a special bonus episode assode. So that'll be cool. But right now I want to jump in at a part where Josh was talking about. How culture influences both the structure of Chinese companies and also the way that they communicate internally? I would firmly believe that every company big or small is a little miniature over the society the culture self okay. So China's company is a reflection of Chinese society and in terms of values and the way people thank the way people communicate with each other and the way people do things. Okay so Chinese companies could charge jrue. Yeah John He's like your boss is like your father literally Joh- means family and John can mean leader so John is the family leader or the head of household and then the companies like a family and that is wrong like a family and the traditionally of course our paternal candidate power is very strong so everybody respect their fathers and on the grandfathers and the fathers they have the absolute power over everybody else right and an and sometimes the extreme is is not everywhere but in between I mean I will say that Chinese companies sometimes are covered a managed by the factor of fear. Fear people are fear of very afraid of that box and they did. They are not speak just obey so usually in the meeting in the Chinese companies the lower ranking staff. Do not speak speak a lot just silent silent and the band because listen okay. Listen to what the past how to do however in the Western companies. That's a lot of a debate and envoys and opinions going on right so that's a very different kind of culture that relates to one of the words. When I asked you what sort of words you think are relevant elephant slang words in the cultural context? You mentioned Lindahl. Oh yeah which is something that I didn't think about slang word at first link doll in Chinese literally of course is someone Mahu leading but The I think that the the meaning behind the is that the guy who had the power right the guy who who is in control. So everybody's talking about indeed okay so it looks like everybody's working for them they want to know what is what is the window. Yeah today is very busy so it's very difficult for us. Talk with him about this issue. Tomorrow is not in a good mood so we better talk. Talk Mr Okay otherwise you can. We will have a hard time so so. The whole company is influenced by the wheel by the leader individual dealers to match so that is reflected in people's language. Use the words like Linda are not used the word like wheat. Bala not wave to report we bought means that you report something for a lower ranking position to higher ranking executive. US present the word presentation. I think that is being like. I have something that I want to share and I want to present this to you. Whereas way ball has more of a feeling of Cleveland I have to ask for approval or ask for your opinion? Okay so that's a very humble out to okay this exactly so China's companies everybody. Everybody needs to stand appear to be very humble modest. I cannot say I'm very confident and I know what you have to be say respect. Respect your colleagues so that is the Chinese well this harmony and then social interpersonal relationships. Yeah quite crusoe. Individuality okay is about a group of people yeah teamwork which sounds terrifying to to a lot of a lot of Americans. But I can't. I can't be my individual but for Chinese. This is something natural some. This is an environment even that we feel very comfortable about the last question that I have for. You is if you get what everybody in the West. No one thing about China what would that be and one of the things that you sent back to me. The the pre interview is at an all caps. There are many China's then is a phrase. I was told years ago with two orientations sewer Western companies and then we have this phrase for the. There's no one China economically. I'm not talking about political power. I'm talking about economically. Mark in terms of market consumer lifestyle and mindset whatever. There's many different China's so China culturally. He's like Europe. Okay so they'll take okay. Even though there is our underlying kind of value behavior and lifestyles are very different so that of course that keep this emphasis argued the society to further into the understanding of China. All right so I just talking with you for an hour I I learned quite a bit about the industry that I that I used to be in But now let's get to the slang. Let's do this conversation we're time and then we'll go through it. Line by line introduced any words leads only on women to show that Hi. You wouldn't here we'll go to tool paw. How Much Guy Credit about shall we all the law? I feel that your investment in this character of leads on is this is my like you have made this before because I've seen so many different ways other. We did get lost in the jokes a little bit but eventually we came back to explain the conversation. line-by-line Leeza Leeza woman to our the fugger. Hama leads on so Lee is a family name. One of the most common family names and own Paul comes from Don. CNN which means director right originally comes funds within ending the year general manager lead. Yeah so it's all means general generally would be manager manager. Panel is very kind of is very useful. Where for a broad rags is always safe to the US is with the surname to anybody? You meet in in China realize as he has a little bit kind of achievement professional chief always call him a song. Put their surname there and then call them phone responsible responsible for the CEO of a company Public Company can be adjusted director. You always use its own for example you go oh and then meet my new client. There's people out there and no nothing about them and the WHO is even more important who is not that important but I know they are surname right for me to say these ones all sounds on save because this is a business customer over here. I don't think we have an equivalent in English. I think that we call the Mr so and so we wouldn't call them like director or boss so and so this is something that often gets translated. I think as Leads on would be translated as boss Lee which I think it's a bad translation inflation. It's literally what it means. But it's a bad translation. Because has a weirdness and English present vegetable comes upon so the rest of that is what we shower on woman is. Let's Dijon. Shaw means go over. Go through all communicates or less talk about my proposal because the way means to it literally means correct in some in some cases correct. Either Dan to lock it just means for a moment is sort of like. Hey let's let's let's a line for just a moment. Let's just sort of go over this so tweet what fun on my proposal. Yeah Yeah So. Woman tweeted out a fine. Let's go over my proposal. Say neither you wouldn't he go tromping here. Need if I'm on your on your proposal you'll win. He has has problem. You always has wind. He is problem and we'll go. Trump seen bogo means not enough and tron scene is innovative. Yeah and this is the buzzword like people say trunk seeing all the time so how funny is just about the proposal and you use big words like innovation to charge but we do go proposal right in our clients. Talk to us when we would write a proposal presents for example to Jackie where he was one of the clients that we both. There's no trunk seen in this proposal. Like what are you. This is not represent our brand. Our brand is trump and you have no trunk senior. This debate the politically correct thing to say Braille. It's great because even if you don't know exactly why you don't like it you're going to say it's not trump's Just sort of covers it. Covers your covers. Everything and so I repeat option Cammisa Chamisa. This very common phrase Shama is what many slough is meaning. So what does that mean is. It may be a little bit impolite from each station. You breath because in your in your little dialogue they are they are not very close in terms of ranking so Assamese this kind of Janis on anyways okay so typically public dismissal Lee is is a line manager and the damage the choice come and stuff but when it is a directo facto or general manager you will not say a Hashemi. UC Won't say it rack. So so I'm I'm still calling. You Lethal Basso your it manager of me in some sense. We're close that's enough in rank that I can selfish on the USA if you were the Lindahl And you said trump replied to that or would I reply to that. I would say anything you just have to just be silent. And don't say anything say anything because your boss after say Google trotting he will automatically say more about your proposal. Say nothing okay listen. I'm listening I'm listening. That's okay no argument okay. but we're closed up I said And then you replied to assume walk Joe Shirt mail to poor so it sure is. It's just it's just it's sort of a sort of almost a place filler. Now is just what I'm saying is male tool. Poor Mayo is doesn't have to Poi- is breakthrough through which is similar to trunk seen away like it's sort of a buzzword so this is very poor and this is not. There's no point here breakthrough. There's nothing new here Joe Shirt Mail to pour you can also say it's not disruptive rocket disruption is disruption often translated wooded as to poor damn fool. Yeah our Dan Fool means to overturn. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah so the two porchet both mean disruptive in a way. He's always always. Yeah one of the safest way to criticize others. That you are not disrupting the traditional way of thinking. Neil male pm food this is this is so common. Trump home flew away. Tronto traditional way is way of thinking remembering China. This word this worth Trenton is always active. Trenton means traditional and it's always negative is always negative but I thought that Chinese was a tiny culture was highly traditional the values tradition. That's important yeah but that is less important than disruption progress innovation because for example You've either agency. I have something new like a social media. I have some some some digital marketing skill and I present my client outside. I'm batter in her band. Those traditional ages you know traditional agencies labeled as those agencies who do not change who do not embrace the new way of thinking so much you we use the word traditional very carefully and then sometimes are Chinese tradition this as long as is Britain. This is okay but nobody wants to be a to appear to be a traditional guy because this is not the right of Wiki not in China and speaking of innovation. The next one is good. You will go dot so I don Bogo is not enough in. That is big so not big enough. Good let you go dot the good. You is not big enough. What is good? You could use very difficult to to to is like Ho- structure the whole For example assembly usually we use the word with like the the multinational international political power. How they how? They deploy their Their power across the world like a US right. We have troops in your middle ear saying whatever so there is the global number lay out of our overall scale the overall scheme overall overall picture the big picture or big kind of architecture of the whole thing the original is a very big and then all of this is too frequently. Uses you stephen a boost in China. Everybody's talking about good your your your way. You're thinking is too narrow something like that. So he said my good. You go dot my my my. My thinking is not big enough. I have not grasped the big visionary enough yet and then I replied quote Guy Halbe Macho Guy Hobart means okay who and then. Nah I will then I will chogm guy do it again so I'll change. I'll change it all again. Tom Guy Very scary word. It means I have to change every Halbe Malwa Chogm guy and replied quite so. We'll get clarity on my quiet as fast so quiet means a little bit faster Ah telling you to speed up and shower. Will y'all gay lingo wayball. Shallow is afternoon. y'All means we must have no choice. I Shall Y'all gay Lindahl whip up so Linda was leader in Weight Ball is report so I'm going to report with the leaders. Raising using golfway ball is report to the leader. Shall y'all gay lingo wayball. There's a serious and I think quite bowing to the Lindahl is one of the most stressful full things for example when a presentation in the Western companies when there is a present to the CEO's whatever. I'll stock the presidential probably saying that. Hello my name is Josh. The today am very honored to have the pleasure to share with you. My views advan perspectives. But it was a Chinese companies with other Indo there in present. I was a Halloween everything very honored to the report to all of you. The humble work we have done in the positive street. You're very strongly positioning yourself as somebody who might be wasting wasting their time or like. You're you're on the opportunity with so many Lindahl sort of to to to to share this with not see as arrogant because being seen as arrogant he's the NWEA Korea China. Yeah I won't waste any more of your time. Thank you very much. Thank you Josh. Josh for Oh no the experienced one more time exactly. Yeah thank you very much. Thank you Josh. She is a pleasure having this conversation. Yeah the pleasure is all minding they get. Thanks again to Josh Lee for taking the time to talk with me. I hope to release that fool hour hour long conversation for you at some point but We'll see what I can get around to editing at all also thanks to Himalayas for their great support. It's a great place to listen to podcast. Santa's

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143 - Is The New Mortal Kombat Movie Any Good: A Debate.

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143 - Is The New Mortal Kombat Movie Any Good: A Debate.

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Where just walking around all the time what. Excuse me. What is luke gavin. Josh harnett is made movies and also the research faculty forty days. Forty no asking. Yeah that movie. Where your jerk off for forty days forty days of something. I can't remember what. Larry days of night in alaska. And there's all the lead josh hart. I didn't see it for good reason. Unbelievable what was he was in black dahlia. Let me see. If i could find a movie that i liked like black hawk down and saying he was the worst character and i think he was with all scar. Joe gosh jacobs chasse jake. Were gonna get confirmation on. Woody harrelson so city. Wasn't there still make always back impending dreadful. Let's go wait. So is luke evans related. Chris evans. I do not believe so. I may what you do this weekend. this weekend. out went Went to a bar on friday. We apologize we apologize for mitt. That those that. Listen to pod on friday mornings. Early eight didn't get a chance because he was to stone. Remember upload it there was a mix up and this one hundred fall. I win order of how i did. The routine and i sent it to bill o. Where i posted. It was my fault as you can tell the right time. You'll never be fucking late if you watch it on youtube. That goes up at fucking midnight. A cut you don. That was my bad. I'm sorry listeners will not happen again in the weekend sold anything else. any will. Josh harnett was in forty days and forty nights and thirty nights. Beautiful day on sunday. Gorgeous gorgeous around down by the fountain for good pits off. Bought a z. Turn kidding when he taught is not. Bob cat mickey mouse not a deer. I a pillar to touro craftsmen to turn. But i gotta torah fucking five hours. Cut my grass. Every week. And i had to by z. Two yard was electric nuts. Nuts here just twenty horsepower. Can i handle that me. That was turning while. You're still your mom's baby thing. Tony just wants to commit to z. Turn go out not like guess what. You're better fucking look good because otherwise the jackass who's got two thousand five hundred dollars lawnmower and you gotta lawn starts edging that yes me and say hey now whether you want to be your night. You are fully. I wanna be and baby. You got a sprinkler system set up. I think those are pretty expensive. Yeah you gotta fuck in or going all in on the lawn or not. All i can tell you is that there's a cup holder sitting powder's a clause while i'm starting to get concerned that it's always windy on my patio very windy everywhere around mary. Windy city chicago the windy city indianapolis. Yeah that's right. It's funny that you mentioned moen tony. Because i did have to mow my yard and the fucking assholes behind me. The kids always throw balls over the fence and stuff like that ran over a croquet ball. Basically fucking my lawnmower is an. Luckily i was able to finish the job. Done this thing. I'll tell you what after i broke it. Where do you live. that's what i'm saying. I mean why the hell is the croquet ball going over the fence. I don't think of a worse ball to run over longer. Oh and believe me shot out of it and fucking hit the fence like a cannonball startled. Shit yeah yeah i was. I was. I had half my lawn after that and it was. You know who's going to blow up. So yeah i gotta get new lawn mower. It's not great. Careful those croquet balls down there that thing through their window i'd launch. Get back into their yard. Listen using problems. Let me tell you about some real lawn problems. Dandy lion yard for every house. On my block. Flourishing green lawns might covered yellow flowers. Well you got call along company. The app inside. I don't like other people taking care of my yard. I agree with that. But i mean they got industrial weed sprayers. That he didn't know. I took out there with spray myself and way too small guys in my lawn starting quarterback and starting at corner. Well maybe running back. I was not happy when i found out about. Ucla again on bought a wheel barrel. I have a wheelbarrow. I don't have a law more though. Different sony one. Ooh what are you gets right. Well i might be a little bigger. I need to be a big boy tony award. Probably that the pob. The person that used to live downstairs doesn't live there anymore and he left his lawnmower. Is that fair game. Yeah take it take it anything that's left at that place take it see. There's massive leave all my shit and just throw everything you have oregon downstairs for. What that fucking sound machine. Did we do that. You still know the code. The code okay perfect. I'm going to do that today right after so go ahead take it. Yeah dude moore's yours. that's yours now. i'm going to have to care. Bills guys gone talking ripcord. Now it's brand new. That thing is nice guys have walked by out to. I know you. I can tell you. Want to divulge information that i heard. I believe i heard about twenty yards away from me the other day. But this guy ain't coming back right Yes he is he has what do you call it if he has a warrant under searched his name and he is wanted. But that's the thing. Do i want to steal skipped town. Yeah he wanted man. You just gotta hope. He goes in for a nickel and serves the dimes eat. He comes out like top. And he's like the hails my lawnmower now did or you're an accessory in fucking cops or like a about this guy we know you longmore. You're obviously pretty pretty close with shit. Deadman tell no tales. That's right they also mow no lawn. Were concerned that mowers yours. Hell lawnmower not a fucking. Didn't take six hours to come on all right. Let's do a with kids to need help here. So i'll be fifty bucks a lot of money. Yeah each no just fifty bucks. Forty our nature your over half an acre. That is not a lot how to steal. How long are they taken how long to lawn mowers and like an hour and a half. But they're like fucking sprinting. Take an hour and a half away. You guys too long does doesn't have a big one not two lawnmowers. It ain't that big tony. It's big game fifty bucks fifty bucks. There's a slight grade to it though. Yeah and then you go outside the fence. Because i more property atas of eat might live on the steepest hill and indian. What are they to go all the way to. Scotland and z. says cuts. you're gonna move that back so it's all your whole. I heard it's very expensive. Of course i heard. It's very very expensive and i might put a basketball court. Just get the puck in co cheaper on kids for football guys can walk up to your house or did you there with the neighbor's yard and they said they're trying trust. Save money for pads. Pass those teams go to pull their own pants. I asked this. I guess they just give cheap pads and people. Just get better pads. I dunno got the little giants. Just keep them pads mothership for free for the next year. How pads though dude helmets are really fucking expensive. Now there's no way they don't have to either own helmet note day probably seriously school. Probably just has really shitty old helmets. Now you get sued by milne's now they can be like ten years old shoulder pads stuff stone suppliers the lowest. There's a five hundred dollar pair on shoes we saw last month. I probably seventy nine ninety nine curbside pickup available at dick's by nice like neck role with the one hundred title quarterback was nice pair. Ridell once for two eight. How old are these kids. I know but i. I was throwing the ball from the day i was like. Yeah you can. We get the head coach. Cut the grass coach oddest questions. But i i think it might be. Now let's get little for the other josh on like next good law. Josh josh. All right here we go scientists. 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Not this fucking hunk of junk chevaux four in for your truck. You fucking lose. Actually assembled in. Indiana doesn't matter where it's fucking invented your driving history. You might want to consider like panzer tank or something six cars. Just wash that tread documentary. I think i am going to find like half inch plate. Steel to put all of my getting a tesla. Yeah bill move twenty. four thousand. Don't have anywhere to charge the cheapest guy money except pokemon. I'd have to run an extension cord out of my apartment like over road into my yard supercharge steal. It spent all his money on these spy. Pens tony tony tony. Down downing is officially become captain america into those who say he's not a leading man. He says he doesn't give a shit. His sons is cool. It's cool what are you talking about how you like that way. You dress this. I tweeted. i tweeted that anthony. Mackie had his leading man moment and is now a leading man. So i'm glad you've come around. 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If it was they would have showed him taking a punch and then using that energy from the punch shoot back in mortal kombat enjoy it does joyce recommendation for we talk in combat. Now are we talking about this. We'll we'll save that. it's but yes. I thought this is very good. I would. I don't know if i'm gonna tell you. I like nemo varenne seem. Oh yeah it was cool to get his character. Zola federick zillow from the from. That guy does crush fucking joe show. Sean broke his rather than wanna vision. No one of his first action. But i wouldn't say why divisions bad very precise dunkin and it got better start heating up just want to jump in and watch a couple apps on one was two or three and then you have to watch it all the way through the insurance. Only watch the nfl. It's only six apple if anything you could probably like the first three episodes and then just skip to the end tall when down. You're to invest three episodes only three more episodes while you just give to the third with a fourth one that the john wick director creator directed of this series. It was the best one. Okay that's a nice little nugget. That that i like you guys. Think he's gonna be good. I think he's going to be the best one really. I do because. I think they're gonna tie a bunch of the plot bullshit. Tommy it'll together. Don't miss i loved home to. Yeah true come. Wilson is in it and you get to learn about the tonky tyler keepers. As we know o'connor big time big base showing the money watch it. What's next. Oh yeah the money. Oh shit woman swallowed by python. As she checked her cornfield a woman in indonesia swallowed whole damn. Pice is just a tuesday python as a weapon. I mean this is not the first one first woman. That's been swatted. Indonesia twenty three long python. One hundred villagers searched the area and found. It killed the snake assuming going which is debt now if they live in their eight days. Hurry carry around air tank. If you're checking your inside the snake. I think you're dead russia's first and then ingestion true. Yeah go limp. I don't know much about condos or pythons. yeah how strong is their bite. Can i walk in bowflex it. I don't think so nice question. Thanks three remember that one do did. That's almost a special on like discovery or national geographic kmart. What it was. But he wore like sue that measured it and he had like protect played on and he went in to like a pick one of these things that led him crush. It really got wrapped up by snake. I forget what it was called sport signs dude in a compression suit just getting crushed by one. These things is that while. There's no more sports him up. Yeah well you remember knoxville and fucking we man got into that ballpit with one of these days wrapped around. We man's legs and they were worried teaching drown in the ball. Pit just get sucked under. So you fucking huge. They are twenty three feet. I mean test mass. Can you imagine this lady seeing that thing just like pops up on its back and it's fucking two stories holy shit away as much as five hundred and fifty pounds. Ice cube didn't break out there. Snakes yes so this guy. Paul rosalie special on tv. And the snake originally was going to let the snake eat him okay as it started crushing me said he felt his arm was starting to break tapped out his team at the company gets snake off to kind of washed out just shoddy civil like fucking him up. So who wins. The battle of pressure. A lot of problems pressure to tons of twenty forty anaconda. He he battled was using twenty three. I just looked it up and it said Six twelve pounds per inch or something. I can say that dad. Six twelve pounds do her age twenty three feet. So what does that. Twelve twenty three Don't have that one. i just don't have you got to eighty eight no closer. What is it like three. 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John burnt alza punisher. Ok p jackie chan. let's go. Why are so many q. The black widow ours john wick ss indian jones. And t is tony montana. How many we we pick it thirty three this is impossible you go whic sina yup and madisha jackie chan way. Why scarface on here. Because he's got a my friend. Why dies in that scene. You change it up. i'm going to wick. Seen birth all his punishing wick seen chuck. Norris give me a break. just give me medina. That's all. I need birth. John cena tony montana. And faulk. In riddick gimme wick. And i seen a laura croft whom mean wick and seeing our layups question by now. I'll go the bride. Kill bill showing him. Batman allowed product. People well you get me. Michael jiwa spawn. He's my third with wick and seen. Oh it's good call. I mean we could do it on his own. You could just pick worker. Watch him jimmy jan. Is it tarzan tarja all right. It was okay. Kind of stopped. Jackson was pretty good at it. I got something to tell you. You guys aren't going to like. Oh i've never watched john wick just people. Hey instead of watching bangkok dangerous five times. This week john wicks nicholas cage. This book lists joma carousel. Say if you want. Unbeliev john wick. You might be changing your tune about how you feel about the fast franchise because wick will sway over to. The other side was in john three. Yeah yeah your favorite hoban ovar. One of these make call look common. Look like a bad. You'll like what's common was the sas in that Liam neeson movie taken. Nope wait one more time to gray star wars movie set common was the assassin that liam neeson movie guy from. He was on all night. Yeah movies awesome show hell's on wheels there's new liam neeson movie. Did anybody realize the Like i heard it was great. Good guy sharpshooter sniper. It was called some guy the guys with better call saul. I believe not nobody. But that's it's out now. I've heard it's awesome john wick so the the marksman honesty. That's what it was honesty. Good around there. no. I haven't seen on a sif yet here by movie. Knew what ted ted. Three four to six point on. I'm debbie so take that were waldberg these. Tlc extreme sister share a boyfriend in sleep in the same bed. Has anyone watching shows that a new show his pictures to that guy that guy in front of a mirror there are the show falls around different groups of sisters. I think three groups assists with set of twin sisters. Who married a set of twin. We're looking at that's hysterical. This is in the same god and insist they don't fool around with each other there. Another group win sister share the same boyfriend. Does everything with them. They said they do everything the other. They've only spent more than an hour apart in their entire lives. Eat the same food. They wear the same clothes they get behind the same kneecap. Excuse me if they let the same kids look the same. You're asking me like science here. And a mix. 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That's cbd md dot com promo code the pod. One word for twenty percent off your purchase of superior cbd products from cbd md. He kind of looks. Like i mean this is insane. Sisters share the same boy. He looks just like someone i he. Actually i think this is a guy from that fucking stupid prank show. He looks like carbonaro that one a he looks just like fucking joe that you guys like be trick. Energy actually shaved my beard bikes. Is you go. So that guy's got a twitter he's married to the other guy just smacks t fucking circus. Original picture was the two sets of twins. They're married each other. Which freaks me out. Oh okay okay which that one right there. Yeah the last group of sisters our sisters two years apart but lake just do everything together sleep in the same bed. Even though one of them has a boyfriend claim. They don't sleep with them but they do do this. Shit it's great. Tlc's while does not give a fuck about putting people's business out there in any way possible. 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Spent too much on the cast and they couldn't have more was written by and directed by guillermo del toro. Why what the hell. How i heard about this. Are you making that pinocchio awesome. Yeah the original was that. That'll call tony tony. How or any of the names. Zito found the wrong one. Nine twenty nineteen. It says a new one right. This one that i'm saying he was twenty. Twenty one is in twenty twenty one. Pop would it be up for the oscars forgot. Released a kennedy. There's different one because a movie that came out in wake year modo thorns alfred zoom in on that so. This one hasn't come out yet. Oh it's an animated one to on this one all the What was the synopsis. There was a dark version of the classic children's fairy tale of a wooden puppet that transforms into really sweet. Is just gonna chop people's heads off might be time for this movie. This is the cast list. We don't know much okay. So this is an italian film any. Yeah exactly what story after watch. 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Like if he was like eight and the ama and had retired and then got into some meth. Yeah so possible. But i liked what i like. What he's doing now. I mean yeah you gotta use your looks to your advantage and this guy does he. Looks like mcgregor d'appel game are. We sure that's not his dad. He'd looks like ed mcgregor. Carl mcgregor out of clay. God word halfway through could see like chain down because like obviously he's got the tattoos and shit tattoos. This you'd have like a knockoff. Yeah like knock off monkey on his gestures person. They're worth his salt. He at least has phony tattoos on their spilling out. What's next. I guess there's video and here's your volume for this. Okay yes no volume. This is because we talked about the bob cat last them. So there's another video of a bob cat doing tremendous athletic feats jumping across peers. I'm still killing this thing that you're not killed. We see bob. They're just that's deadlier house. Cats man dude. I'm fucking grand mid high ground. Here's a have high ground. I'm killing it so a lot of bengal cat to watch do that. Shit oh yeah. What happened to cocaine Was that its name. Leave your brains at the right there. Would you put that on the back burner. We'll see we'll see on down bro. Really wish you would have got that fucking cat never say never. It ain't over yet. Also after getting scammed a dog. I am assuming that bengal cat site. All there's no chance of. Israel was ex scotto nearly three point eight million. Us households watch mortal combat during us opening weekend. That's good news home tv and moody. Washers boyce mortal kombat had more viewership in just three days than godzilla vs khong got in. Its first five. that's flawless. victory was awesome. We think. I my thoughts are pretty. Well known. I talked about a little bit on twitter. Didn't love it. Yeah but i think that was because we hiked it up a lot and you know you want log it. No i don't want dialogue is like some semblance of a plot. And i felt like the kills were cool but really only like like. I liked the lau. Kill sweet and goro. But there wasn't enough goro. Because i realized it was mickey mass budget film. I thought they'd money. What are you talking about now. It was it was a b movie movie. I had to look myself in the mirror this morning. Because i knew this was going to be talked about and say hey tony think it'd be real the people are you gonna be. You're always ruined pete. And i'm always with people. Was it an incredible movie. Yes yes thank you thank. You was the acting as good as possibly could have been. You're not showing worldcom f for the maybe not. The main character was kind of a piece of shit he get in need to make up a a main character. When you got a franchise. It wasn't a lot of sixty to seventy character. There wasn't a lot of depth to the main character he stunk. You can say oh no no no. But what was the kills kills fog and yes yes so yeah. I like what they did. The reptile luke luke and kind of a bitch cum laude tape finish was fucking sweet was awesome. All scorpions killed fucking sweet. Jacks is tiny little arms refunding. Those are hysterical. Yeah i saw the jason momoa commercial as a unfortunately the two characters that they spend the most time with the the new guy and then sonya blade those two kind of stunk. Yeah so like. I said we watch the seven minutes of it on twitter author lisa at time zero Scorpion storyline was awesome. I thought it would play into that a little bit more than would go down. Like the bloodline route. I thought they should've stuck with that. More scorpion was so cool and they seldomly used them. I guess so. It was pretty cool. He was sweet but those are like the best guy. So it's like why are we not focusing on them and making them like the key. So your point. Subzero started off. The movie is such a boss and then all of a sudden became shanks fucking lackey. Yeah social you think that you would rate this the same like i have a certain rating for this being a movie. I watched at home. And then a movie if i would wash theaters two different rate absolutely. I'd have been pissed if i saw this in theaters out of it so fucked. I don't want you to watch. It's well said absolutely have hit the nail on the head there but it got my attention you know. There's no point where i was like all right. Fuck this or wanted to skip for. Can't my attention. Yeah sure there were some mickey mouse parts. But they had awesome kills going to mortal kombat and actually doing. The tournament was what maybe that was. The only thing that i was like shit but the next movie when they go to moral communist it was just an introduction. It doesn't get there the next movie though they have to now. La they've they've warned nine tournaments in a row so now they're gonna kill everyone before the last tournament. Then make any sense. It was like i suppose to video game movie but like storyline wasn't also still a movie. I mean i gotta run back out and finish this but it just like it just wasn't great it just wasn't great and it held my attention. I watched the whole fucking thing i did. You can't you. Can't fuck in dangle scorpion like that and then just like that you guys said it. I mean that main character stunk. He stuck his skills. Stunk i mean the kill on. Goro was really really sweet. But there's just too much bullshit in their pick some lame guys like for. Yeah like all the general rinca dude like the. He's still so what they should have done. They should they should fucking came out swinging with all the big well. No that's what number twos about table. They're gonna get half the amount of fucking viewers for number two. You're dusing johnny cage. Everyone want him in this movie on. When you're doing this and rebooting something that people really enjoy. You can't leave alien and then be inventive on the. They're trying to go against that. They're trying to do the second. One brings all the juice now. You have a why are you relying on the second one to bring the juice. When you're trying to reinvent franchise like i saw. Someone said that they signed the guy who's playing subzero. Signed a four movie deal like how can you like then. Let's make sure that the first one is fucking awesome. So it justifies having an entire new franchise. You can't leave any both chambers right. There's a spoiler. Because now i know he's not dead but hey knowing that though knowing that zero going to be a part of the next few four movies i would have had the bad guys go over in mortal kombat one i would have had the bad guys fucking set it up next next movie. Is that now fucking. You know the shadow people they own the earth gotta go to la. We're gonna get fucking ball punching johnny cash and the the main character to like the guy just what he just stinks the whole movie and then all sudden like goes about blowing his wife so he gets passed in turns into that guy like it. Just here just don't buy bracelet. Dude the wife is come loud daughter away to salsa salsa. They were way too ballsy. By the way you're standing out there. Yeah baby but they knew focusing their papa. Cole had their back. You're right you know that has power. Which was what taking a beating and the batons the black panther suit and at the time and they were actually not. It did hold my attention. I watched the whole turned it offers. You played scorpion. does he. or she has out of all that he's done a bunch of stuff. He was in endgame. And a couple of films through scorpion. He's not fucking more known than fucking calculations houston westworld westworld. There's no way more now than calculation. I do believe is goose vaguely fish to shang sung in the games is pretty sweet because he can morph into any character whenever he wants like. What are we doing this one sole that's it. I understand that you didn't get the full home. Run but you did get a taste of it and you know what they do number two member fucking robot fuckin- jump from place to play all. Yeah he was. He came into later games. And then raden a whiny well. He can't he can't fear you know that he's got yeah which also is not a show which is going to be sweet when they get in the fifth mode which would be all in all out. They added like rambo and fucking terminator and stuff like this like they do in the games. I mickey mouse to like ask for you. Know other cares so we're talking ready player. One thousand go in there and just fucking destroy everyone. I still don't just invented more character. They did cole. Young continue to that but at least been like a good may to mickey mouse getting beat backyard. Like what the hell's us do. We like jack idioms. You'll get beat for two hundred dollars on short notice in. Come on i like jack's hit a cool finish. Yeah that was basically focus. What he's trying and he's like me. It was no. They're not because they look like fucking r two d two's bodies whatever three arms seeing the original though. He takes his arms off like remember the movies the original movies. Yeah that was like oh you gotta use your normal powers. And then it sucked saber. From american suzy original. Jack's really saber saber dude. Sabertooth tiger mortal combat to definitely make how many people watched it. But i wonder how did does anyone know how much money made theaters billion dollars. Not i just wanna say nine point eight over the weekend. But i can't remember if that was this or calling. I read something about it. But i might be mixed though is hbo. Max fifteen bucks a month or five fifteen. A lump that in there yet. Just do that real quick. And i tell you what man when they had the jacks general dildo whatever the fuck his name was that fight in the pit level. I really wanted jackson. Hit taliban asks drops opening day. Yeah twenty three million over the for some bad theater. Yeah so you factor in the fifty boss for their subscribers. Hbo max i. I saw like a bar graph. Get a real number anyways. All i mean think he's doing this. It's gonna go up if they started just really good. Said it was up from forty one and a half million to something else. Fifty three point eight lot. Well what's next to do next because that comes out. That's a huge bass jam. Whenever that comes out right solutions next month what did you say before especially dope within this to me. They could be mortal combat as like a series. Yeah winter soldier kind of it made it like six seven eight episodes and did a couple of seasons of it. I felt like they could have ran that for a while because it didn't seem like the special effects it didn't seem like it was like crazy so i said it'd probably not a big budget because yeah kind of rinky-dink did you see sony. Fucking arms. shuttles lasers sweet. But you're right because they try to in a backstory for each character within the movie. Too many goddamn characters here just fucking get to let me see some fucking blood on the screen. You could have like one of the season. Finale be like a tournament you can add up to but whatever what's gay focus more often speaking of series a house of the dragon initially production releases. Two game of thrones prequel that will focus on. Can't wait gary and family three hundred years all it was. Who's right is fucking thing i think. I don't know it's not. Benny often voice right then. Those guys back nope them. Did you guys read the firm. Benny often wise the accounting authorized handling the hassle. The dragon the. 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