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PhinSLIDERS | BREAKING NEWS! DOLPHINS MAKE BLOCKBUSTER TRADES WITH 49ERS AND EAGLES

The Phinsider

23:54 min | Last month

PhinSLIDERS | BREAKING NEWS! DOLPHINS MAKE BLOCKBUSTER TRADES WITH 49ERS AND EAGLES

"The today started off like any other day in march but then all hell broke loose win. Christopher and the miami dolphins may not one but two blockbuster trades this afternoon. One with the san francisco forty niners and then another with the philadelphia eagles. We will get into all the juicy details and speculation on what that means for the draft class but before we do let me welcome everyone into espy nation. Jake and josh. Oh on your host josh house. You can follow me on twitter at house h. o. U. t. z. And my costa man of the hour. That guy whose fingers nearly fell trying to keep all this breaking news together the one the only jake mental follow him on twitter at j. m. e. n. d. e. l. ninety four. Jake lots to dive into man. How are you doing today. I need a cigarette. Just talk about a friday news. Dump my god. I mean. we're not even a month away from the draft yet. I think it's like a month and free day three days and we have shakeups happening and right here Regarding the miami dolphins ed just the kind of plug our website here. The insider man we have two hundred and eighty new comments earlier today So if you want to join internet discussion. Those guys always have a wild time to be sure to check that out so about what. Were recording. This about three o'clock on friday. Let's start here. The dolphins made a i trade. That was reported by eia am schachter and that was at the miami. Dolphins portrayed in the third overall pick to san francisco for the number twelve. Pick a number. Excuse me a number. Twelve a two thousand and twenty two third round pick which For a program note it was originally reported that it was a two thousand twenty one third on However that's been changed. I the two thousand and twenty two third round pick and first round picks in two thousand and twenty two and two thousand and twenty three so in theory here. Dolphins picked up two first round picks. Nf third round pick just by jumping back nightspots and that in itself is actually bananas but as soon as i pressed submit on that story the world was like jake. Go right another one. The actual account publish this Even better it was. The eagles official account tweeting out. The eagles had traded picks number six number one fifty six to the dolphins in exchange for number twelve number one twenty three and two thousand and twenty two first round pick now. I understand that. I do a lot out there so i'm going to kind of break. It down real. Quick jackson your reaction in the two thousand and twenty one draft. What's gonna take less than thirty days or so. The dolphins will have the sixth overall. Pick the eighteenth. The thirty six fifty and the eighty. I that is the first three rounds rate there. The dolphins have five picks in the half eighty-one. You'll love to see it. Two thousand twenty two. The dolphins don't have their own first round pick. They traded that in the move. Back up to get to six with the philadelphia eagles. Every i said then. I feel like i'm gonna say phillies apologized so gortat keep in mind here that the dolphins are gonna have san francisco. Two thousand twenty two pick and not but oh so the team is doing here. Is there patting that. They're going to be better team in san francisco which obviously every team's no say that we have in our guys we're going to win and then moving forward to two thousand and twenty three. The dolphins have their first round. Pick save france first round. Pick which if everything turned into a dumpster fire simple too so that can be a lot late. This jack of the dolphins had the overall pick out the second and third picks josh. That is when. I put it all together. Thirteen picks in the top three rounds over the next three years. What was going through your mind. That's wild man and again. I i mean. Did you ever expect this we. We're not even out of march like you said you know. This is the last friday more you ever expect. These traits. just come out like rapid fire and to put it in simpler terms as someone on twitter. You know mentioned this. It's basically the miami dolphins trading back from three to six acquiring a two thousand twenty two third round pick and then an additional two thousand twenty first round picks. So i mean just to that you could trade back three spots and get that hall. I mean that is that is huge. And it's just a testament again. We talk about a podcast after podcast. No it's so nice to be that team. I mean you see the fan base in the national media reacting to this. It's just nice to finally be that dolphins franchise that you know after all these years of pretty shitty draft trades and you know just different freedom scientists and that they're just doing things the right way you know to get. You know that big hall from san francisco. I mean i love that move in some people might want to sit there and you know they wanna stay at twelve and you can't really fault them for that but to give up an additional. I again to get back up there to get to six in jake. We see this see the way. The boards falling way could see four quarterbacks go in those top four picks and the dolphins you know whether they wanted are chase but they wanted devante smith but they wanna penisula wherever they wanted. I mean now. They have their opportunity to get him. I mean they can say here. They traded back three spots and they're likely to get the player that they always wanted to me. I think it's devante smith but you know we can speculate back and forth but at the day you have to love these moves you know if you think the first trade was a plus you know. Maybe the second one he monitored. You're splitting hairs here. But at the end of the day dolphins made a awesome trade and again it just sets them so well for the future. I mean this is like when you're playing madden and you just go through and just exploit the i and take all the first round. Picks ramallah's remaining franchises. I mean bravo. Chris greer bravo brian floors and bravo miami dolphins because this is a hell of a move. It's crepe funny. If i do say so because we were planning on doing a show this weekend at and i wanted to bring up the draft. I wanted to bring up the fact. I was hoping the miami dolphins would be more aggressive this year because with all the pics they had last year. I think both of us can agree. We thought they do some dancing around in the first round of the second and third round to maybe pick up running back to navy fill some needs but they they stood pat. I m not saying the guy picked. They were bad. But i was hoping they'd be a little more aggressive. And be a little more flashy so then so i wanted to come in with that mindset and then i have to admit i was kind of on the edge when i was like. Oh i kind of excited. Two first round picks in each the next few years and then. I'm looking at saw jake. You're literally playing both sides right now. So i'm only on the side of i'm all in on this trade. The difference i think between picking twelve in picking six. It's the fact that there are going to be three or four quarterbacks ago i think the bengals and taking the tackle seems like the move they could go receive at this point. It doesn't really matter where the dolphins are going to get. Absolute stud and i think it's important to keep in mind here that you know you can find a generational player anywhere in the draft. Happens all the time but it can happen. You know i remember poverty. The six you can find zach. Thomas fit again. I'm not saying it happens. All the time happens when you have that. Pick inside the top six and you put it into perspective. It's more of a hot. Three in essence. When you think about the quarterbacks going you can get that generational player right when you think about how much the dolphins have lack hall of fame players. Like we're still kicking and screaming to get zach thomas in the whole thing like there's always argument about. You could have two good players or one player josh. i think i'm fully on board for the one great layer especially if that the lying right here one hundred percent. I think we can sit here and talk about the dolphins greatest need is but i think we can all agree that if you want to have success at least authencity you need to get another weapon in here for two so to move down again. You don't know what. Cincinnati is going to do. I mean. I guess we really don't even know some of those i think atlanta's four and i think you know. Even the jets could still somehow do something out of the food. I think they're pretty settled on a quarterback but Again you just love the fact that they could just trae down and you know whether they were torn between a kyle piss. Sorry mentioned code. Did we mention cockpits threw their. You know we didn't even mention him there. So got couch march chase davante smith if you're sitting there and you had a toss up between those three to just move back again in a choir traff capital. It's just awesome but one thing. I don't know how you feel about jacob something that pete prisco of. Cbs report he said you know if the dolphins if to a dozen hit the dolphins are dead and that to me and maybe it's just the dolphins fan me but that was a little confusing because acquiring more draft picks later down the road and doing things the way they're doing. How the hell does that make them. Dead in the water if anything. Is this not an insurance policy for two thousand twenty two or two thousand and twenty three to say. I mean i know i hate. We talked about so often. But shawn watson i mean. I think we can agree. He's not getting trade this off season. So what if it goes out there and stumbles around a little bit. They have now the munition next year to go after shawn watson again. If we're not touching the same thing could rookie right. And i was gonna say even the next grade quarterback in the draft so i don't agree with that at all. I don't know your thoughts. But i think again just you. I don't know how you can find a flaw in the way they're doing this. I mean i really do not know how you can find a flaw in this aside. Maybe nitpicking that they. They might not have had that first rounder entirely to move up. I mean i don't know but It's just again awesome to be in this situation as dolphin fans because the future is you know we said it was great brighter than every couple of weeks. Going with the hell is it now. I mean we're in a whole galaxy. It's just it's just awesome times and you know crisco this kind of playing the role of a very dramatic wet blanket Because first and foremost if you put everything aside if your quarterback is play well believe it or not not going to be a good but battiston Late with the jags dress. Trevor lawrence and he turns out to be poop. P chris go for stating that two plus two goes for. I greatly appreciate. Your wisdom is far beyond my years. So thank you But at the same time there's a point to be said there and that's a fact. The dolphins have a lot of picks. They need to do something with them. Josh and these these picks are great but better than pixar having fantastic players on the dolphins are positioned to do that and it's important to hit on them and something i want to bring up to is two thousand twenty three jet looking very interesting because i thought that that that takes not gonna stick around there. They're not gonna wait around play. First-round pick for ammunition next year even this year. Who knows but you think about it. The whole thing about ryan tannehill was the fact that this team waited too long right whether it was waiting too long to get the right pieces around him to draft the right guys or waited too long to simply move on from right. So let's say to stumble. This team is flirting with disaster. They're going nine and seven million another ten six year but they don't really get you too far the plow you get two or three years in two thousand and twenty twenty one twenty two years riding with weapons. Come two thousand twenty three if this is a in the hunt five hundred team. I mean you have the indian ocean to make a quarterback training. You'll be seeking do all the time is make. These adjustments be able to draft a quarterback and it does ronan franchise right especially when that hits. Thank you cresco. View trail your picks the quarterback hits and helped your team. It's crazy but i feel pretty interesting that the fact that that's kind of a little bit of a to a safety blanket again. I'm not saying that we're gonna need it by kind of what it looks like to me. Yeah and you know. It's it's good again to be that team. That's you know thinking ahead and getting ready to you. Know if something. If the worst case scenario happens they have a plan in place I wanted to ask you jake. I think it's kinda funny because a lot of people are crediting laremy. Tunsil not gas masks for this because when you think about it i mean it was all this trade. I think it's what recouped about four first round picks. I mean second third. I mean all this little stuff and it's just crazy. I saw someone compared to a herschel. Walker trade so That's huge jake. I don't know what you want to do with this. I was gonna ask you. Maybe who you liked at six for the dolphins in an eighteen. But i actually pulled up the pro football network mock draft if you wanted to run through it real quick i just the first three rounds or whatever even the first round and let's autumn sent a first round. I certainly onboard for that. I don't. I made this clear. Every time i talk about football. I'm not the greatest when it comes to college prospects let's rock and roll with the first round and to take us a stepfather farther to josh. This all happen to trade that the eagles because the dolphins moved from eight to thirteen or eight to eleven to get tonsil in in the netted byron maxwell and kiko alonzo so long time coming for the miami dolphins and i think it's important just to kind of jump back to the the tannehill experience of waiting to logger. Anything chris career was here. The last decade right. You live through all that. He was with the team for all that. So i think that pretty exciting to know that he understands the concept of wins the right to make moves. Because i think that the key here. It's it's all the way from the jack up the dolphins maybe squeezed out a little more. I don't know it's kind of tough when you're doing a three team Juggle like this But but that. Kinda of josh. You've got a little macho simulator. Pf pfm going. And i just jump the gun here. The dolphins picked someone. You want to jump into a breaking the oldest. Come back and we'll do the first round quick and then that'll be end the show like that. Let's do it support for this. Podcast comes from cdw and adobe at cdw we get the people to need to sign here. Always here tell me about it. I'm always chasing down signatures. I go through pens. Shoes like chewing gum. Sounds like you need a doping signed orchestrated by cdw security automate e-signature workflows across devices from anywhere integrating with existing tools. Signed can save your organization. Time money and miles. Thank goodness i can finally take the shoes off gano back on back on. It orchestration by cdw people who get it find out more at cdw dot com slash adobe sign support for this podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars. Buy a plane ticket. Pay down your student loan. Treat yourself to those shoes. You've been eyeing with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you can be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey to save with progressive in twenty nineteen. Okay j we are going to do our first mock draft. we're using pro football. networks mock draft simulator. This just happened after. These two trades and jake. Okay pick one. Trevor lawrence obviously picked to justin fields. The new york jets than trae lance to the forty. Niners zack wilson. To the atlanta falcons soul to the bengals and jake. We are now on the clock at six. And could you please tell our listeners. What is staring in the face. We are chris. Greer and brian floors and we have a trade offer. The eagles are of move up to the owner. All taken offering us the twelve thirty seven. Pick if i wanted to be a real maniac again. Think about it but we're not going to do that here. I'll this is really interesting something. I really want to note one our listeners. Ask this what someone like. Kyle would do to this offense. And i want to point out. That lakers sickie caught. The third most passes out of the slot last season. And i think it'd be absolutely fantastic to figure out how these guys work on the field together. And i think it'd be a very tough challenge for defenses to the holiday you're gonna guard pits and seki together so josh i'm it premiered between pinson to martinez and jake guess unless you wanted sole this could be best case scenario for the dolphins we have kyle pits who pro football. Never cazar third overall prospect again. This is a guy legal as a tight end but as you mentioned he has all the wide receiver tendencies and again to think about adding another tight end slash wide receiver to jiechi. We know how important that was in new england for all those years. We got your more chase here. Jalen wattle devante smith. He has them seven eight. Nine of leaders are tony pauline scouting report. So we're sitting here with the toughest decision you know. This is kind of something that i was hoping. If the dolphins straight down at the panthers kind of sort itself out. But i. I don't know i think i think i'm going with. I think i'm laying the alabama guys jake so we were a little torn here. So you wanna make your pick. I and We will ultimately go with your pick. Because i think a devante smith is the cliche pick and i think that would be wildly. Go and you know. I said it since day. One i think devante smith again. What he can bring this offense would be so. I'll say devante smith but we won't select him. I'm gonna let you decide. Kyle pits urge chased word. I go mad scientists with this josh. What I know the kinda speed through and honestly i haven't done a lot of backdraft so so this this'll we're gonna do. Can you pick i say. Let's ride with pits. And can we see the lion's tickets seven before going to the panthers we can try. I think i can pause it but it might go real quick so here we go. We're gonna take pits case. We paused it now. You want me to resume. Let's see the lions go up. That saturday's rashawn slater. You know we need the men. Shame on us. We didn't even mentioned offense of tackle there from north west. We know he's some people am as the number one tackle. But again jake i just don't i mean i love soy again. I think that that's one of those picks that you would be like one of those no brainers but i think if they're in this situation i don't think i'd want them to tackle here would you i. I completely agree here. I saw chase. Waddell and smith on the board lets you. The panthers are doing so the panthers went with The edge rusher out of miami at number eight. Let's the broncos nine. they took waddell. They took josh. We're going to be mad scientists. Let's call jerry. Jones at number ted and offer him the or excavate thirty six and fifty four ted. Let's see the see what happens here. You're going real mad scientist. that's it right. Yes we want declined. They took chase is going and went up. It's too late. i get that wrong. I should have said eighteen. I don't know why. I was thinking that team but what i we should have done. There is i wanted to trade. Eighteen fifty the intake to marchese ten. I would have been a complete maniac and take a boat. I i bet. Probably the move out of but let's keep on going to march eighth hectic us 'certain the second win eleven email address relief. They all right. So we're sitting here at eighteen ad. Nauseam hairs on the board little appealing. Would he pay. I don't know. I know where i'd go here. I'd be a little my gut would be devastated. Not only devante. Smith go to the new england patriots but then to see mike. Parsons go sixteen to the cardinals two picks and then darussalam went to to the raiders. So this is a. I mean they still got some players here. Who would you go. After i mean they have to rashad bateman. And go you know supersonic like you intended nausea harris but again. I think that running backs could be that. They're at the top of the second. Almost go create humphry. Maybe i mean the way you're based on all these rankings and he's down the way a little bit. I two of josh to ask you this. Would you rather have nausea eighteen or trade eighteen and fifty to go up to tatton Yeah if you could do that. I think you. Then be on. Like you said supersonic and you get chase and kyle pits this offense. I mean it's crazy and then you can even get devante williams. I mean that's where i keep going with this draft class. I mean. I think there's three very good running backs in his class. And i think if you can get that twenty like i said twenty year old devante williams at the top of the second. That's the home. Run there so i don't know where you wanna go jacob frey. I buy the property here. Let's see if we can get williams in the second round. I think we only did a first round. My only did up for a long walk. Yeah this was kind of cup guy. So we apologize. We just kinda wanted to see how thankful turnout niger. Harassment twenty of the jets. But we got kyle pets. Increase humphry with six and eighteen. Again again this. Very off the cuff. But josh i think that's probably something i will try to do is see if you can use eighteen if you had used thirty. Six china like flip. Second rounders But but josh either way outfits and create humphry along with having a third round pick next year in a first round. Pick twenty twenty three themes. Quit feeling yeah. That's the whole point of this. Whole thing is the fact that were sitting here and we had to fight back forth between four very good prospects and we could have even expanded that more there at six and then again at eighteen so it just shows you how good of a situation dolphins have but again how hard of a decision they had because we saw lashes completely void. The running back position called him no-man's-land. Will they do that again. This year will assure that offensive line. Will they skip on a playmaking. Even one i mean jake. It's the miami dolphins. No one expected to drop these trades on this friday But again i think this and everything else that we continue to hear. It's just good things. Things are being built the right way. So i if all fan hope you like what you're listening to guys. Please subscribe this podcast. Please leave us a you. Jacob will be talking about the dolphins the draft all season long jake. I don't know if we're going to have another time to jump on here into a fence latter quite like this one because You know this one this story for one for sure. This came some he. That is absolutely true. The top the talk about friday's dump again. The best way finds we try to it up as soon as possible at insider dot com built insider dot com. And then we get a podcast up shortly after so be sure smashed. I subscribe button. And you'll know exactly when a new show is popping on josh shirt. Follow him on twitter at. At and they're on twitter. to where. I just kind of yell about things. I'm at j mendel ninety four jostle that all the time. We have thank you for joining us. The cordless insider addition. Jake josh. Go enjoy your week and enjoy the weather out there. It's getting beautiful. let's have some fun. Dolphins go dolphins. Thank you chris. Greer bill o'brien stephen. Ross dan marino. Everyone thank you enjoy your weekend. 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Part 1: Adolf Hitler and The Nazi Party

Let's Start A Cult

42:02 min | 2 months ago

Part 1: Adolf Hitler and The Nazi Party

"On with metro by t. Mobile your hard earned. Money goes further this tax season. They're zero fees the switch enjoy metros the lowest price just twenty five bucks a line for four lines plus get four free samsung galaxy phones when you switch. Now that's the best feeling wireless metro by t mobile empowering you to rule your day all lines rate of any deactivates no fees on select phones at one per line with eligible port excludes sales tax limited time offer additional terms apply see metro by t mobile dot com. Hey are you that weird one in your friends group. That loves to watch true crime documentaries. Have you ever wanted to learn more about the lesser known crimes and are you fascinated with ghost stories. I'm hannah the creator editor and host of murder bucket. A podcast that talks about get this murders paranormal activity objections kidnappings and weird stuff. Join me every tuesday wherever you listen to podcasts to get the inside scoop on some of the most interesting topics in a true crime world. I'm also very active on social media. You can find me on instagram at mut bucket facebook at bucket murdered and twitter at the murder bucket. Hi my name is josh l. host of the. Let's call podcast the podcast. That doesn't demand mass suicide from their listener. Every single other. Podcasts does so just know that you're safe here. Now that crazy claim out of the way. Let me introduce to you. My guess episode. You may know them from the amazingly popular showed dump found dead and you may know them as john room and his prophet or you may simply no them from their terrible puns. Please welcome back from excommunication. John and patrick gentlemen how you doing today. god intro. Was that josh. I'm kinda nervous of what's going like. What's in store for the next. How many minutes or hours. We're going to do this days. Well last time. I had you guys on. I managed to convince john that he was in fact john room. Which as we all know is a military jesus figure in the south pacific islands and that he needed to get back to his people. So john i have to ask. Have you made it back to the islands yet. Not yet because we still have quarantine going on. I do have intentions of going to pacific sometime this year. So my people i shall return is coming got. That's what she said. Blame blame it on. Cova da cove it because whatever everyone else is doing it. True amazon be like oh asari due to kobe your packages due to kobe. I will not be returning to my people. Yeah well. I'm glad you're here and i'm glad you're here as well patrick. But on the both of you for this one. Because today i need to discuss john rooms nemesis and the reason for john rooms entire existence. The in today's episode of the. Let's turn called. Podcast we will be telling the story of a young boy. From an impoverished austrian family managed to crawl his way to the top of an organization. That would later terrorize the entire european continent. And the world. This is the first part. In a two part series of adolf hitler and the nazi party. In down on that ladies and gentlemen we get cancelled. Episode i blame josh l. I'm taking it goes down with me. This is the mass suicide our careers so now you might be questioning. Why i'm doing an episode on hitler. Because he wasn't by definition a cult. Leader however i would argue that he had a similar rise to power much like leader ran the party. Much like a call eater. And i believe looking at the nazi party as a cult rather than a political party allows us to view it in a different lens and maybe see something new or learn something new you know. Do you guys agree. Or am i just being a crazy podcast today. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself. I definitely think what isn't it. Considered a coal. It's a colt kotei type of movement. Exactly he fits like all the descriptions of being a cult leader charismatic. Maybe it's too big. It was too big. Okay okay so it was too popular. Is that what you're trying to say coats. More mainstream underground enough down. So he was an adolf hipster coming already down. I'm always ready. Yeah i think because it's seen as more of a political party people just don't they don't look to see it as anything else but i could argue. It was definitely a cult. And i'm here to prove that to everyone in this part one all not in part one part two will prove more of it but you guys want to learn more or do you guys already know everything about hitler. I love to learn more. But i have a question for you josh shirt. Yeah did you specifically pick to brown people to do a story about hitler knowing down the aisle. He doesn't like us. Yeah i mean. I didn't think it was. My main connection. Was john room because he was a military leader in world war. Two which fought. Against hitler so i. That's why i wanted to have you guys on race did not come into good answer good answer. You're trying to mass suicide. My career all right. Let's jump into it. Adolf hitler was born on april twentieth. Eighteen eighty nine in a small austrian border. Town called brana 'em in both of his parents came from humble beginnings. His father elouise was the illegitimate son of a housemaid and worked as a state a customs official clara poll please bulls mike that adolph's mother was allah's third wife and this marriage produced a total of five children. Gustav ida auto eight off edmund and paula. unfortunately only two of them would make it into adulthood. Gustav and ida contracted diphtheria in december eighteen eighty seven and died within weeks of each other which is super unfortunate because diptheria was like it only came around him eighty four. I think so three years and and they got it and died from it on the other hand auto passed away soon after his birth while edmund only lived six years a so pretty terrible upbringing. Know having four of your siblings pass away or yeah four of your siblings. Pass away like right away. Got to suck. How do we know it wasn't him shaking the only child minutes into downloaded. And you got conspiracy theories derailing this whole script we gotta go god damn and we're just gonna fly. He was born on four twenty two true. That's true did hitler love. We'd all he on something to do something like that. He was on a lot of drugs a joke. But i'm not gonna do it. Throw it out. I'll cut it out if it's too terrible. Terrible all right all right. We'll cut all of this suit. The whole episodes chuck just redacted the whole thing. This is like ten page. Despite this string of tragedies and their impoverished circumstances the family made do in eighteen seventy six changed their last name to hitler which was the christian name of the man who married louise's mother marianne five years after his birth. It carried her maiden name schickel gruber all his life but eventually managed to establish is claim to her husband's surname. And i think it's kind of crazy and funny how close to having a racist tyrant named aid off schickel gruber strike the evilness. I think he was going for. When adolf was six father retired from government service and moved the family to linz the capital city of upper austria unable to stay idle he bought and sold arms raising beats and spending his free time drinking and local ends. The young adolf admired his father's work ethic however the too often didn't see eye-to-eye. I'll was an authoritarian and overbearing husband as well as an aggressive in a violent father. His wife was the exact opposite. Clara was reportedly quiet and solemn working throughout the day to keep the home in top shape to please her husband. She considered adolf her favorite child and he in turn dotted on his mother. This relationship was far from healthy though according to the american historian and scholar. Louis l snyder quote despite her love however he developed into a discontented and resentful child psychologically she unconsciously made him and through him the world would pay for her unhappiness with her husband. Adolph feared his strict father. A hard and difficult man who set pattern or the youngsters own brutal view of life there was a deep tension between two unbending wills. It is probable. That hitler's later fierce treds came in part from his hostility to his father. He learned early in life. That the right was always on the side of the stronger one and quote so it of a public service announcement. Don't be hostile towards your kids or they become adolf. Hitler adolf schickel gruber. Whatever sounds like a sausage now does does i was gonna say it. Sounds like the fucking villain from venus and verb incorporated. That was a great watch too much. Come on man. I got disney plus now right to a damn flexing disney plus two. Yeah right as a child. Adolf enjoyed playing games that involve fighting and reenacting battles scenes from the bower war. His father's authoritarian nature and love to give orders playing the role of commander responsible for rescuing south african farmers from english. Concentration camps so ironic. Yes down cheeses crust his favorite game however reportedly involved shooting a rat with an air gun. I mean i get. Rats are kind of gross but not enough to shoot it. Yeah as a child to they got nerf guns back in nineteen whatever like bb guns. I think so yeah. He's got a shot on him if he could hit a rat. That's true real true. Yeah i don't know that's that's the only thing i could find on it so i don't know if he was good at it or just really wanted to do it and couldn't couldn't hit them not sure. Despite a stellar academic performance in primary school adolf found himself increasingly disenchanted with his time in secondary school. He had been rolled in real schule which refers to an educational institution with a focus on science and technology. These subjects weren't adolph's forte though and it didn't take long for his grades to drop significantly and i don't blame mine plummeted if i was just doing science and math. Yeah sure more of a more of an arts degree guy more of a lunch guy so my best subject that's pair. I don't know. In addition to academics adolf social skills deteriorate as well as classmates refuse to accept him as one of their leaders and he despised his teachers whom he believed only aimed to stuff children's brains with facts and information rather than actually teaching them. And god damn does that. Not sound like every anti-science blogger on the internet and stuff my kids heads with facts and shit. He sounds like sheldon from big bang. Theory true the young sheldon or whatever that you for their part adolph's teachers also disliked him one of them. Dr edward humor later recalled the schoolboy as having definite talent but lacking self discipline with a cantankerous and lazy personality who demanded absolute subservience from his fellow pupils. A little bit of foreshadowing. There i think soon after his father's death in nineteen oh. Three eight off dropped out of secondary school and began pursuing his dream of becoming an artist however his plans were interrupted in one thousand nine hundred seven when his mother was diagnosed with breast. Cancer clara underwent an operation to remove the tumor in her chest however it was already too late with the cancer slowly spreading throughout her body. She became bedridden an eight off took to sleeping in an adjacent bedroom so that he could be summoned anytime she needed him. His mother's diseased derail his plans though in autumn of nineteen seven eight off traveled to vienna where he was joined by one of his friends. A man named gus intended to study viola at the city's academy of music on the other hand eight off sent a portfolio to the academy of fine arts but his drawings were found to be unsatisfactory and his application was turned down. This rejection stung even more when he found out that august had scored a place at the academy of music. So i know it's a mean that adolf gets rejected and turns into a tyrant but that's not one hundred percent true as we'll see like he gets rejected the first time in this kind of just that was shitty but whatever he moved on with his life he actually gets rejected twice which will talk about the second time later upon hearing that his mother was close to death. Eight off rush home to spend her final days by your side. Clara was in great pain during this time and while she refused to complain every grimace that crossed her face devastated or son to ease her condition. She was given a shot of morphine from time to time which was extremely grateful. The cancer was too much for her frail forty eight year old body though and on december twenty first nineteen seven clara passed away or death devastated. Eight off who wrote that quote. It was the conclusion of a long and painful illness which from the beginning left little hope of recovery yet. It was a dreadful blow particularly for me. I had honored my father by mother. I had loved and quote from then on. He reportedly carried a photograph of his mother wherever he went. I believe his mother's passing actually played a huge part in who adolf became because like she was kind of connection to humanity like she was only the one he truly loved and when she passed away. I think that that was the last thing that was grounding him to that so he sounded like he got this associated with himself. Yeah and i think that is because like once his mother was gone. He didn't really have anyone else he had have. Yeah august august or whatever his name is but he's too busy playing the viola or whatever the and it's a constant reminder that he didn't make it exactly he's like grech practicing when weird flex turn to a world war. I get it. You can hit the high notes. Fuck off exactly. I will kill you take over the world i will destroy. All the viol is so that no one in the future war was about about it aka but the people he just wanted all of a olas gone just happened at the people he killed. Have the vital wild conspiracy again number two from patrick. This has a chance to go really really bad and really bad slippery slope with us to around here. I cannot wait. Because i need those. After clara's death adolf returned to vienna where he lived with august despite the hustle and bustle of the cosmopolitan city. He found himself isolated from the rest of his peers. He was completely indifferent towards them. Ignoring even the women who expressed an interest in feeling lonely inject didn't adolf threw himself into books consuming a wide variety of literature that would eventually form the basis of ideology that would later. Make him infamous. So books are bad. That's the that's what i talk about. What i'm getting from. Read only consume podcasts. Google also began painting and drawing pen and ink copies of the ns tourist sites on cards. Which would then sell in taverns with an acquaintance named reinhold on shit amish reinhold honey shit. I sell antiquities as to be my twitter name. Reinhold honey shit. You're selling a rare antique here for you. Only twelve hundred dollars buy it today. In september one thousand nine hundred eighty eight off applied once again to the academy of fine arts where he was told that he was better suited to architecture. That's burn however is lack of school. Certificates made him ineligible for admission which enraged him to no end. This anger spurred him to leave the flat that he'd been sharing with august although with little money and no friends to turn to effectively became homeless. So patrick i think you're onto something he was like. I can't stand being around your viola anymore. It'd be homeless on august bought. I blame on aug very own subject to change. The month's name to fish gruber later. August would say quote choking with his cadillac hates. He would pour his fury over everything against mankind in general do not understand him who did not appreciate him and whom he was persecuted and cheated. I had the impression that adolf hitler became unbalanced. And could you imagine what. Hitler was like doing this thing. And taking over the world whenever an august sitting there like fucking knew it at home i knew it. I knew that. I wrote a song about it here. Listen for viola which is no longer there. He's still just hitler postcards saying fuck you. I still made it. You gotta be one of those postcards with the fucking music on it you. He's taking over half the world and he's just like god damnit august. Oh shit the summer of one thousand nine. Nine saw adolf hitler living on the streets of vienna. Fortunately he was able to find rooms at a charity hostel for men by the time. Winter rolled around that year. He also received call up papers to serve in the austro-hungarian army out of hatred for his native country. He ignored them. so he's he's turned true german. For some reason i'm not one hundred percent sure. Why but he's just like again. It was during doggiest in germany. Joined a fucking army because of august or vienna. Sorry it was. During his time in vienna. That adolf i became interested in politics. He was a fervent supporter of carl. Lugar the leader of the christian social party and the city mayor at the time later he would claim that his antisemitic views were influenced and developed by carl sentiments saying that he was made to acknowledge the vast difference between regular citizens and those who belong to the jewish race was of the opinion that the latter was dirty unclean and bore the marks of moral stain on their identity. But thank you. Carl forgiving this angry young male his antisemitic views. Fucking carl carl in one thousand nine hundred eighteen. He relocated to munich in the german state of bavaria. When world war one broke out. He successfully petitioned the king to allow them to volunteer in reserve infantry regiment despite his austrian citizenship this role meant that although he was far from the frontlines he was still present at several significant conflicts including in the battle of the psalm where he was wounded in the leg in nineteen eighteen. He was also temporarily blinded by a gas attack launched by the british during the battle of epa which reportedly reduces regimen from three thousand six hundred men to just six hundred and eleven. Like all those who survived this particular battle. Eight was promoted to the rank of lance corporal. I don't know what any of those titles mean. Sorry you do yeah. That's a marine rankle right here. So those are tough guys. I'm air force. So i just sit on a desk. Drone strike people. Yeah no big deal. It was just like drink. Your coffee death. I do not wish to shit on the military it me so many times already. I just don't want them to point their guns at canada. You know we love you guys. Focus on mexico where five eight off service in world war one earned him the iron cross first class and the black wound badge. Both of which indicated that germany was acknowledging the bravery that he exhibited on the battlefield by all accounts adolf enjoyed his time in the army. You relish the feeling of being part of a group that was fighting side by side for a common goal. Well this fellow soldiers perceived him as odd and peculiar is higher ups were impressed by his willingness to take on dangerous missions even if it put his life at great risk they just hand them gun and saying yeah. Go in there and i like this episode as not very. Is that german bro. Bora from yes. Yeah why european however a soldier from his regiment named hans mend later remember him as an isolated man who often sat in silence in a corner. This would be punctuated by sudden wherein adolf vehemently attacked jews and marksist whom he believed to be undermining germany's war effort. While recuperating from the loss of his vision in a hospital northeast of berlin he received news of the armistice followed by information that germany had officially declared its defeat similar to many other germans. He attributed this defeat to traders particularly jews whom he believed had been inefficiently patriotic and thus unable to bring the country to victory. But do you guys know who loves all people and will lead you to victory. Jesus was hoping to say john room but no actually the lovely products and services that support the show. The segway i want. My ads have better lead ins. But i talk about such terrible topics possible. Especially when you're talking about hitler hating the jews. But you've gotta shove that did not see that coming so please by a service products your ad having complained yet although we'll see after the nazi today's episode is presented by skin store for over twenty years. The skin store has been the number one destination for premium. 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He joined the fledgling german workers party which was an organization that aims to promote the interests of the proletariate. Well furthering german nationalism. Their work led him to believe that. Socialism and communism were both part of a larger jewish conspiracy idea that was exacerbated by the fact that the majority of the country's socialist leaders at the time or jewish including victor adler. Kurt eisner rosa luxemburg and eugene levy more than that though in nine hundred seventeen october revolution in russia was also led by choose such as leon trotsky and george dino via in aviv and this fascinating because i hear a lot of people who oppose socialism online saying things like hitler and the nazis were socialists. Which is very clearly false. They hated socialism. Well not quite the opposite but like they blamed the socialists for all their issues basically as well as the jewish capitalists of the society. So they didn't. They weren't capitalists and they weren't socialist. It's wild that a lot of right wingers say that. Nazis were socialists to castaway all socialism as a canadian with a lot of socialist political parties. Like it's not all bad. There's a lotta good. The stimulus checks were nice to some of some people. I know free healthcare. I don't know it's not the worst thing going back to the stimulus. Jet really get two thousand a month. Not one hundred percent. Sure because i didn't get it. But i think it was something like that. It was like yeah thousand each every other week or something like that. I think it's done now. Yeah yeah but. I think it's it might be rebranded something else because we're still locked down here so i'm not one hundred per censure hundred one time we got one hundred one time and then we got another six hundred towards the end of the year which maybe survived for eight months. That we've been down there like if you don't die from corona you'll die from starvation. Whatever out as either than st go bag playing viola or something you guys are like well at the very least. Can you pay us more. And they're like not on think so. I forgot where i heard it from. Someone told me that. Kennedy's given that two thousand dollars a month and now is like what. Yeah yeah it's It was around that for say six or eight months. And i'm not sure if they rebranded as something else. I'm not one hundred percent sure but it was people who are unemployed during that time so that it was not me sadly well not sadly i guess all of these coincidences led to believe that the jews were responsible for the downfall of europe's super powers and he constantly espouse this idea to members of the german workers party with his skilled orator fiery speech and innate charisma e quickly climbed the ranks of the organization to quote spartacus educational. Which as the name. I title spartacus. Educational code it off hitler who had been ignored. When you made political speeches now had a captive audience. The political climate had also changed. Germany was defeated and disillusioned country and quote after their resounding defeat. In the first world war germany had been forced to give away thirteen percent of its territory. Which meant that over. Six million of its population as well as a large percentage of raw materials was lost. The country was also made to financially compensate the allied nations which resulted in thirty eight percent of its national wealth being given away nineteen twenty eight off left. The army and began working for the german workers party fulltime. He was put in charge of his propaganda efforts which resulted in the organization being renamed the national socialist german workers party or the nazi party for short got the name is he was also responsible for the adoption of the ancient symbol of the hocken. Crews think that's how you pronounce it or the hooked cross as its emblem. This would later become known as the swastika. the very same insignia. That will forever be associated with the atrocities that adolf hitler and the nazis would commit and i mean as as a marketing perspective goes. He's he's kinda killing it. he's got a hit. One new symbol killing it. Jesus i had to. I'm sorry we're probably josh. Welcome to the dark side. If we go down we go down together. That's right adolf enjoyed. His role in the flourishing nazi party is nine hundred and twenty-five autobiographical manifesto mein kampf. He wrote that quote. I started out with the greatest enthusiasm and love for all at once. I was offered an opportunity of speaking before a larger audience and the thing that i had always presumed from pure feeling without knowing it was corroborated i could speak and i could boast of some success. In the course of my lectures i led many hundreds indeed thousands of comrades back to their people of the fatherland and quote. He is not a very. i mean. it's obvious translated from german. But it's the sentence structures very poor. By the end of the nineteen twenty one adolf hitler had become the de facto leader of the nazi party is speeches attracted former army officers most of whom were disgruntled and dissatisfied with how germany had been treated in the aftermath of world war one among them was a man named ernst rahm an army captain and a senior member of the bavarian free corpse our border patrol east in all of aid off. He recruited others to join the strong arm squad which officially became known as this. Oh no we're not going to pronounce that one essay strom trimboli or the essay ernst. Didn't know at the time but the esa would be instrumental in adolf hitler's rise to power and all that followed afterward. And that is it. For part one of adolf hitler and the nazi party which is just getting good. Stay tuned villar to the reckoning. You start sound like a tiktoker. I am on tiktok only so to sum it i love. We saw an abused boy lose. Many of his family members get rejected from his passionate of arts bite. World war one fucking august and become radicalized member of the nazi party in part two. We will discuss how the nazi party functioned ideologies and its downfall or so-called downfall. Now does either john room or his prophet. Have anything to say about what we've talked about today and good puns. You wanna get in nobody. Can we start a hashtag. Blame august for for the episode. Yeah people that never listened to the podcast like if they just started randomly. They'll be like what the fuck did august do with world war tune in and you'll find out. Why did the month of august. 'cause hitler so confused but it'll be worth it down. That's buddy that's crazy. He had a rough childhood. Yeah i don't say all this. I don't tell you all this make you feel bad for him because obviously we know no twenty shitty guy goes to show you that like a lot of people are a product of their environment and he's obviously a very clearly a product of his. He didn't just wake up. One day was like fiction home. Shit up today yeah. It's just it gives us some perspective of like anyone can become this if the conditions are right and they're given the right opportunities anyone can do terrible things which is scary if you really think about it but a warning for people it is it is a good morning and i think that's psycho very important. I know you had a guest host before that you guys talk about how important mental health is just like. Hey we don't know the next person that woke up like hitler one day and had a friend like august could be the next dictator. So this is like. I just feel like if you go through a lot of traumatic events in your life and i think it's best that you seek help from someone professional that can help you cope with that instead of taking over the world didn't do something. Yeah do art but you ought stressor. Don't use it. Don't bet your whole life on on it. Just stay away from violas jerrell. I just feel like wait. I has a recipe for disaster. What is vital. I think. I should maybe end the podcasts. Like instead of the usual tr. Maybe i'll i'll play a nice by ola song if i can find one somewhere in hell. Hitler's like all good sir. This rising from the grave unsubscribe. From my podcast. Subscribe to my podcast. Nine my oldest just a bigger violin. Oh down i'll sticking was a smaller one at the bigger thought to it. Sounds the way more dainty. Yeah i play viola. So it's worse violent to louder. Not quite a cello. not quite a violin. Yeah phil violated. There we go. That's the perfect. Thank you everyone for listening. 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It Used To Be Better- Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey

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It Used To Be Better- Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey

"So. These backbone and? Ben Staying. Scene. But the truth you. Just say he used to be then Hello, everyone and welcome to. It used to be better the movie podcast where we watch movie from our. Upbringing, our childhood are passed the side of it hold up or. It used to be better. I am your host, Steve Pokorny joined as always my co host. April. Hey what's happening April? Not a whole lot. We watched a movie from my past. A great movie. Second. Movie of An. Amazing. Trilogy. Bill and Ted's. Bogus journey. We Watch bill and Ted's excellent. Adventure before. This was a journey that was most of us. Nine hundred, ninety one. Three. No. I tried to look up. Like When it came out against and all that box office mo Jo is all fucked up but I can tell you two weeks prior this coming out terminator two Judgment Day, came out. On. On the release of this. Terminator two made like four million dollars. So it probably beat Bill Cosby and Ted Opening weekend made ten. Made Ten on opening weekend ten million. Yeah. And Terminator only did four it was for two weeks. I'm just the release day. Now wait I'm confused retail that. Okay. So take came out. In the Nineteenth K. on that day terminator two Judgment Day made four million dollars already been out for. An argument on, for two weeks. The entire weekend bill and Ted made ten million. So I don't think beat Terminator Two and there's No information like how long this was in late? How long this movie was in the theater. Nothing. Yeah. Very confusing okay. Terminator two is making a million dollars a day terminator two crushed the competition again, this weekend winding up in first place, it has brought in more than one hundred, fifteen, million dollars in just two and a half weeks those esteemed dudes bill and Ted had an excellent opening and second place one, hundred and one. Boys in the Hood and regarding Henry fill out the top five want to you remember about this everything me literally everything. Wow. I remember the spooky scenes with the bunny and granny. In the sergeant. I remember death and all the Games. I remember station and the robots. Robots. And I really remembered when they came back from the dead and there was a worm in his ear. plunged. Times over dude. I also. Had A one shot marvel comic book? That was this movie. So when I couldn't watch bill and Ted's bogus journey. I would really. In my imagination with a Wonderful Comic Book Fun Childhood is happening over there. So, fun. It was great. About that comic book at a Garage Sale. What? Time four million dollars. Terminator two. Jerry was killing no information. On. It opened sixteen hundred theaters. was still in twenty, three, hundred theaters. Hell Up Terminator Two is Great Turn Itunes the better one, right It is. It's. Pretty. Good check in the Sun Right. Yeah, it's Terminator Two is definitely the one I've seen way more than Terminator One, I think I've only seen terminator one once. Probably seen it a couple of, but this one is the one I watch like over and over and over. It was a really good. Schwarzenegger. Movie true lies because this has the COP. Lt Cop. The dude from X. Wild Yes. The melt cop the milk is what I like to call him. The man I'd like to t one thousand. I was saying melt like Emmy. A. Man. Enough. Terminator. Like we just felt math. Or you are headed to Peru. Brazil were doing this. I really don't WanNa Watch. Big News. Just come out not fair because this podcast doesn't about new movies. This movie I'm not watching the from my childhood April. Okay. Now, what do I need to do to get you to watch this? What do I need to watch? I think you've you've now ride equivalent you floated out there the new robocop. You've. There's some other newer movies we all you know what we can do. You can watch all three pirates of the Caribbean who has the time we have no time. We could watch the new overboard. Why would I want to? These are all both torturous for me. All right. anyways go ahead with your announcement but bill and Ted Three as the music. Original. Release say was the first week in September. It was going to be a birthday surprise for you. Instead they've moved into the end of August but not in theaters. No no theaters open what? What's happening? Why aren't they open? Vegas is practically open I. Don't know why the hell it isn't open. At, least. This is why all right. At least in a movie theater, you can sit with a mask on socially distant. In a restaurant, you have to remove your mask and food. So to me, honestly, you shouldn't talk in a movie theater. I? Know you're only proving my point that I feel like movies could be open with your point. One hundred percent. I mean Shit Vegas practically open the only things that are close right now are strip clubs. And Gatherings of over fifty or more. That's it. Everything else is open. Everything. But bars bars just Risha. But and brothels brothels have been shot down. That's why only fans is popping. Yeah. So. that movie's GonNa Come Out, and for some reason, Steve Wants to watch that for some reason. Yeah. I off Kenner Eve's amazing. Abra hates kanye reeves I don't hate him I don't. Know I just hate his movies I hate his movies. I have zero interest in watching the Matrix or. Constantine. Got Him. canneries movie or is it conquers poets, canneries alcohol? Yeah interesting about a scanner darkly interested at all. So movies actually very cool. I'm tempted for John Wick. Do. You know who else is in a scanner darkly. Iron. Man Himself Robert Downey Junior. Tears our. What a what a bumble? That was terrence Howard Yeah. Ding. Dong Don cheadle better though. So Don cheadle is great. Very. Nice. Man Trimming would other categories movies he's in the new spongebob. Speed. Speed's at Gimme. What Point Break Never Senate University of point break. Don't add it to. Be I know reeves is an FBI agent. We're not even in trading a group of bank robbers who are also servers. I believe Patrick. swayze is also in it he plays the bad guy. Spoiler. Kind of because he's probably banks. We. Open Up. In the year twenty, six, ninety, one, Sandy Mus. And everything looks great. Well. There's one evil dude who wants to change history. He hates the to fools keeps talking about how? You know it's coming up we need to stop it why their beloved like I forgot the first movie completely that's how each man it was to me. Okay. So Bill. Need a history report. We're not going to. Come up with a two sentence ops that tells me why they're a famous. Go Awesome, presentation great band. That's why they're famous and they're literally have a school made from them in their the neighbor Abraham Lincoln. dudes. Is this Wayne's world or is it bill and Ted? Billington is all about party too. So we're billing university. School then did not answer my question. The eventually write us on that and you see it at the end of this movie and all the news clippings it brings peace to the Middle East. So a song does, yeah. Okay that's all it takes April that's only sentence I needed to hear. Song. Everything in the future is words you're saying one word syllables. Everything in the future is bright in Neon. Everyone is walking in huge shoes. Look Way Way too big. Did you notice that? They're walking very uncomfortable you. Yeah I just thought I was like man they look out of. Character. Classroom or everyone puts on like Google glasses is. Easy for me to say jerk. Blue shows up with. George Carlin. Glasses he's with ta I'm not. I'm not doing that Tom Medicine. Johann Sebastian Bach. James Martin of no more April still has no idea who faith no more as that's what I meant to bring up. See because I can't put it in. This was in rock band I know this. Yes. Okay. I can't put it in because then when I posted on Youtube, we'll get flagged. Flagging everything. Anything else but time those people just working from home. The robot is that Yup. And some alien chick that made an instrument. And they're going to talk. But. The. Bad guys come rushing in. Serb an old school TV. They'll have guns. And then the main bad guy walks in. Amount. Even I can't even say his name. D. NO MOLA's. He is played. By JOSS ACKLAND Who is still alive to shocking? But also was acting up into two thousand fourteen. So he walks up and he's actually Rufus old teacher roof is play by the Lake George Carlin. He plans on going back to kill Bill and Ted. So none of this stuff happens. And, the world will just kind of be like it is today. He's going to do this like it is today. Horrible. Wow, that's We've got factories blowing up. Remember. Those killer wasps. Corona virus. So doing that still here he's GonNa Kill Bill and Ted with bill and Ted Robots. Cool. You didn't like so they show their robots like ripping the skin up over their heads was impressed as really cool right? Yeah. I will say that I was like, oh Very like real looking. Just remember really liking robot bill and Ted. Yeah because they're ails. Great, we're trying to bleep ourselves now because we have a son who's now cussing Oh. Yeah. He's a big listener you love listening no show. All cell phone. So bill into evil billeted are going to go in the phone booth. To San Demus back in time to San Demus as they leave George Carlin throws an electric guitar. In hitches a ride. All the way back. To modern. Day. Wear. We see the wild stallions. auditioning. For. The battle the bands So, the I do have an issue with this movie. Okay. So they're still in the band which is whatever there's only one show. Yes. And later on bill tattered talking to their dad the DADS. And he is still saying that military schools still an option but they live on their own appreciate graduated High School House Military School still I think he's meaning like. Go the military because you're a like a low life, they're not passing a drug test. They're not passing an Iq test what are You talking about. They are group's. Dubin. Stays down. So we meet PAM grier. Who is the head of the battle of the bands and she's like you guys are no good. If if you were charges all the bands, would you let you in and they were both like? Oh Yeah. So awesome they suck. Didn't they just make an epic Song No. There's an epic presentation. There was no singing. How do you not remember Napoleon? Joan of? Arc. Socrates. Okay Sigmund for. Polian running through this part starts one ended with them making like a song. Presentation. Okay. alrighty. So were playing in their garage at the end of that and Rudy says they get better Eventually. Make music and stuff. I don't remember that. Well, that's literally what it does. I'm right. I don't believe that you literally forgot the movie as soon as we were recording. Your the June Diane Raphael of this podcast. What? She does the same thing. She bought remember like Del Bring. Up A show that they've talked about before just like I don't remember that. Choice talks like this? I. Don't remember. Chintzy something passed. So they're in a band in the princesses are there. Yeah and they're like they've remote evil England And I. Don I didn't even know they came. They stayed there in love met evil England Iowa. What Ted says and their saying it wrong. In. Medieval. That's how they say it. More did I say? Mad Evil. Medieval. It's the Princess's birthday potato potato at that point I guess. Medieval medieval. WAITANGI again medieval. Now, I'm saying it wrong medieval. You're saying mid I'm saying. Med. Yeah finds. Better. Evil Princess's like eight, hundred, th birthday. Because they're from the past April. Stupid. So Everyone's there. Again We. We meet the Alaskan military schoolteacher. Have you ever seen? Any movie that that guy is from one thousand percent. His name is Chelsea Ross. He's from like a kid movie or something. Like that same asshole care. So he is in one of my favorite movies major. League ever seen Major League. I've seen it like once Charlie Sheen remember at he's in the. Do. That's like obsessed with this new doll any pisses in the thing and then he like? Oh. Dude this guy is something kid movie nonstop here? Let's see. A Madman drag me to hell I remember my name is earl. You, what my name is earl well. Why what's that mean? He was in my best friends wedding. On credited. Richer edge which you rich that's for sure. One thousand percent. That's the one. I said it's a kid movie. Yeah. He's like the whole he's. John Cut. John Lewis is the guy that like kills Reggie riches family no, he's like. Yeah, he's with the Ale. John lyrica. Great in that movie. S I remember that I was in this movie. Ever Shit out of that go. Overboard himself. Bird Herman. A trailer for one, he's the Kim. would. She goes to the House and all the kids are only call. That's the trailer for over part right there. No but who is Hanover born? He's the he's her husband. Because he's like you mean, Kurt Russell. No, that's her fake husband. Her actual husband. Oh. The a-hole. Okay. I was like Kurt Russell. Okay, it's went what? I'm still getting Kurt Russell and Patrick. Swayze flip-flopped. I'm GonNa tell you that right now. Because I said that Patrick swayze. Bedrick swayze is in. Point break. Okay. But now I'm not sure. We need to make sure we need to go back in time. That's Patrick swayze Patrick swayze yeah. All right where we on. We find out that missy has divorced. Bills Dad and is now married or? Divorced. Ted's dead in is now married to bills. Yes she sounds real. Interesting Hopping around in different DADS and she's super young. Like where she going to go next. Like maybe he's going to marry you. Have a big laugh, I don't think that's funny at all billeted road, their Princess's poems and they ask them to marry the okay. They're the same exact palm and they said, they wrote it themselves. They're not the same exact poems are different. They're barely different well April. It could have been like a Haiku where you need stands us. Seven, four, seven. I. Wish it was nothing because they proposed them with like plastic rings here comes robot bill and Ted. If I was proposed to with a plastic ring that I would just just walk. Away. For. A phone booth time machine. Please go back. You wouldn't do that because then we wouldn't have oliver by. It'd be a bag to the future scenario. Sweetness. Fades away. Ted Knox's I'll, and it's actually a camera. Or really quite to always remember that part to variable. The robot end up calling bill and Ted as the princesses and said that they're quitting the band in that bill and Ted's suck. Another super depressed. And then the robots. Okay. there. Did, you ever have a foam football growing up like a NERF football similar. Were the ends of your phone football's always like bit off as well. What the hell with that because in this movie bill has a foam, football. And bit off and I only remember my phone I think the ends bit off. What the fuck it's a now it's a now function says. It's a delicious malfunction function I feel. Buddy. Wait word. I don't know I can only think of malfunction. It's not the right word though. It's like A. It's a problem they have I guess. Crazy that I can't remember the word flaw. Flaw. Is Not the word I'm looking for design. Flaw. It's crazy to me that even in this movie, they couldn't get a new. Football but ahead, the fucking end bit off apartment they live disgusting lives and we also find out later that they they sleep in the same petro. These guys are losers. All I think about is how these. Losers there in San Dimas California you know how much it is to rent an apartment in California it's probably a lot when you don't have a job I think they have a job. What on Earth made you think that they have said we can barely afford the apartment. Yeah. Because they all work. Where's the money coming from from their dad? Him. The robot. Show up in bill and. Ted. Are Like Oh, it's like the past us is. Ted is wary but bill was all on board with it. So they go. Bill and here's ten. I will bring up the IMDB. Generates. Ted. Alexander who also played grammy. I tell. You Okay so you mean Ted was on board. and Bill was not. Know Ted was weary canneries weary of going right and bill was like, no, it's okay like. Remember when we met him last time. Like we. We ourselves out. The robot see a picture of the princesses. In the Ted Robot. says. I'm called. Ted Robot says I've a full-on. Robot Chubby. What do you mean? Why is that there and also the bad bill and Ted are both purrs. All the good billund has really completed. The girls will sleep over when we're married I was like, Oh God, they're going to get married. You haven't even hooked up. There literally immature children. Some people wait till marriage. April. I, guess billets. Obviously, believe in God. Could for them and good for them because they talked to them. Yes. leave what you want to believe. I just think that wait till marriage is a little bit of A. Interesting choice. Doesn't matter now. You've been married we've been married forever. Twelve, thirteen fourteen. Marketing your calendars, everyone. The robots drive billon set out to the desert. Ted At one point or bill is like, I'm cold. Robots like shut up. Yeah they're so stupid. They're not getting the head. These guys are bad. Love. Yeah they're basically total gigs. So they get out to the desert let them out and they're like we lied we're totally going to kill you. So they. Marched them up a mountain. and. Then we need to do something. So say, Hey, even though you're going to kill us, we love you. And that's when we get the first f-bomb of the movie. To. Be Fair F you see K one know to be fair. This was still the nineties. When F word was acceptable this was not the two thousand. Swear we knew a little bit better. What did my movies dude? Where's My car? Is Pretty Bad. Did Not hold up. And I remember loving that movie and I brought up to someone the other day I. Love that movie. I, don't re watch it out rewards. Not hold up well. I, told my. Passengers. Great I'm like. Yeah, I guess. Would you rather? Watch. Wasim various again or ride the. News Right Rather Watch the movie. Family. Have ride was the worst everybody hates that ride that ride is? Meant to fast and furious franchise. If I was. VIN diesel or ludicrous I would be like you better take my fake face off that I just loved it like that in Congress essentially the same like. Setup and that Conrad was so much better. What the Conrad was a CA- jillion times better and it's not the same setup as a thousand times better. It's the same. It's the same setup on. A curve screen all around I've watched multiple specials about it. Billon killed. They wake up in their all grey. This is wild I. Didn't expect them to actually dying. What happened? Ted. Dead Dude. Then they meet the grim reaper capacity on like are they actually did? That's the bogus part of the journey. The all let me let me tell you one one really good thing about this movie. Death is basically the good thing about this movie Odessa's Great Bill and Ted no death. Yes. William Sadler. Who plays. One Saturn award I don't know what that means, but he was great best supporting actor. Well, death is basically the main. Fun Person, in this movie. So they asked the grim reaper. AAC can we go back and he says you can go back but you have to beat me in a contest. So rather than doing that. they give death Melvin. which again is a front wedgie. I don't Yeah I. Don't know what that was until I watched this movie. They will back to Sandy. Miss back to their apartment where they see the robots are trying to banglar girlfriends and get real mean with them and then they break up. And that's when we noticed that bill and Ted Living at one bedroom. Okay. They head to Ted's dead who works again at the police station the chief of police. And they. Keep when say exercise? Exorcist. What's the? What's the word when you take over exorcist? No but they take over the body possess. Yes. Okay dudes. I mean Phil pleased with. My son Ted through the door and Logan and his friend Bill S Preston esquire have been murdered and replaced by evil robots from the future. You totally did it Dude I. Totally possess my dad. Thank you. Tempus is dad and then build. Possesses the like assistant dude. Yeah. That's purpose who we've seen in other movie as well. Yeah. ARACHNOPHOBIA. Eating the popcorn. WELP, got killed by a spider by his mouth. I. Felt like the actors and this. Really good job acting like bill and Ted. DONUTS and they're basically like there's some robot. Our son's got killed by some robots that look like our sons in you need to go stop them and nobody takes them. seriously. They're all like, what are these these people are Like walkout. Of the police's Asian, they're like, well, we can't leave like this. And then they like get out of their ears. The head to description. To missy. MRIs plays who's doing seance what in the middle of the day isn't it was just the middle of the day. Dude is the do that was at the Sand Lake He's credited as ugly. The crash it looking like spooky. Goals. They, lay out the whole story like you need to protect the princes. have been killed. But they're not listening. No also really stupid. Down MRIs shirt. thanked. April I remember that scene to. Her. It's like. Men Are. Just. Immature. Just. This is proof. It's even like she had. Huge boobs Nice, she was wearing a Cleveland Josh shirt. News none of that. It's like not even anything to remember. Didn't, remember. pervy worth. Now, you remember this MRI now by the way. She was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Fifty, eight. Eight. Starch. Oh my God she's in the new one. Holy. Moly. I sell excited now I can't wait to watch this movie. So this movie like all the bill and Ted's have like. Musicians and Shannon it like this one had Taj Mahal and pay them really big stars in even gene while into the go-goes within the first one, who do you think is on this Aside from. Cudi. Kid Cudi. Yeah Because, he's in it. He was on a really funny right that was on. Comedy Bang Bang Bang. Bang. He's Cool I can't wait who's really funny that can be in it and Yoga Now. There we go. She's an actress. Hope not. What's Wrong If I think of any Dave Grohl. Though Yeah Awesome Jack Black. Yeah. Dave Grohl. It'd be better to check no Kevin Smith did the. Con Panel don't want that. Dave. Cohen Smith man that's weird I was thinking about that. Is Weird no he seems like a nice guy but I feel like I outgrew his movies. There's a lot of people like live and die by Kevin Smith movies. I was all for clerks. fucking. Like clerks one in two thousand. Yeah. Yeah Lena's more subtle. Yes. But yeah. I don't know. Clerks to with like. I love Clarkston more than quirks one. Why better know your. You are that tie one, hundred one was like black and white, right? Yeah. Yeah. A Hundred Cox, my girl took two hundred dogs in a row. This is one of the. Great Lines. And then as the girlfriend leaves the party stories like trying to suck Dick on your way out in those guys standing there like goes the follower. Missy search chanting. Basically Sends Bill and Ted to hell. They get sucked down. Turn I'm not getting you turn that van. So, they're falling and falling there yelling then they stop they play link. Up following. Base up screaming. They played twenty one questions. Than the Yeltsin. twenty-one fashions yeah. I don't even remember that. Yeah. It was. He's like doing it. You won't believe anyone cushions stupid mineral. Are you a tank and like yeah. US break my fan. Macci. Just hit. Is Broken made us very hot. It's blonde right on the Mike. April broker fan broke my fan. Now has a personal fan. Make me get. Just do it like yeah never go. Well, that didn't work. Foot Fan. Under the computer does. So the land in Hell and they're trying to get the devils imagine great line I feel like. bill. Is Much smarter than Ted. In most things. The shorter dude. Alex winter is smarter than Cannery. Games because Canada reeves goes. WHOA. Who's that pointing at the Devil Him South. Bill has be like. Do. The Devil. The like design of Hell is pretty cool. All these rocks connected with chains is it all? And they get the devils attention. The devil pulls them in. Prison a lever. Drags them in to a machine that's crushing the rocks at their on, but billons had escape. Head to the devils feet and asked the devil can we go? Yeah and he's like, yes, sure double voiced by Frank Welker. Contracts. Says you go. But they fall down into. Like shafts. Corridors and. So they're in this in these tunnels and all these different doors. And they go into one of the rooms. Which is Like barrick of sorts with beds, hundreds and hundreds of bunk beds. And we meet. What the Hell's his name in the movie, the sergeant from earlier. Who tells them get down and give me infinity infinity. Shops I remember that. Because I didn't know what infinity was when I was a kid. Wasn't. was. That mean. It just never stops. And bills has I think I could do infinity Bush. So they run out. They run out of that room and you hear the devil say choose your personal house to live for turn ity. Split up which is so stupid. Y. You never split up in especially in hell come on to have somebody with you. On a scary movie, one Oh one hell what I want. Okay. Ted goes into a room that's an entirely pink and he's a child. Bill also goes into a room that is entirely blue and he's a kid. That is like obviously a family gathering. And they drag them to a table where we mean granny. Birthday she wants. US mooch rainy is horrendous look and she got a lot of whisker hair I noted. Lot was that waxed? In the other room Ted steals brothers. Easter. Basket which we never meet his brother. I wonder we'll meet them in this movie. Because he wasn't in the verse one. Pink No. Not In this one. This is a fake brother. Then, the Easter Bunny shows up. The Cry and search to chase him. Both of them escape but now they are. In the middle of all these hallways, every direction so much chasing them. The sergeant. The granny in the Easter Bunny. And they decide there's only one way out of this. They decided to play the reaper. Yeah I never even thought of that but. Because you didn't even bring that up earlier that the was getting to play me a game. I didn't think I had to bring it up because the grim reaper literally said that. Said, you have to beat me in a contest. And then to bring it up because nobody is maybe somebody hasn't seen the movie Oh. I said this. I'm just so bored I forgot what you were saying that's not good. That's not good podcasting what you need to be more. Into interactive. We talked to phone. They're going to the reaper and literally not don't even have my phone and my hand what is happening Abra put the knife down. Maim literally sitting here, looking at you and you're telling me to put my phone down. Phyllis, his off with chains. Saying. That retailing the movie. Theater of the mind. Play. The reaper. They're gonNA, play battleship. So here, we join them playing battleship towards the end of the game. In they sink. Suck at doing battleship US thank my bed. Yeah because they miss one. Yes, and you ve already doing a if you're already killing share us now unless it was one of those. Little. Baby to in the hit the one, and we're trying to figure out which side the other. Were two. For. Like super far apart for me like D one. One and E. Sacked my ship. Jays think instead must play me. Best two out of three. No. Yes. Yeah But definitely to. The death is not good at these games. Thank bad. I. Remember this whole scene I love this. They played battleship they played battleship. He doesn't WANNA lose weight as best two out of three. Death accident and they play clue. and. Death. Things. Got It. Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the library. But it was professor plum. Clue is like one of my favorite games we have we have Harry Potter clue. No I thought we have. The Office Glue Something Harry Potter clue would be kind of weird. That's why I don't think it Terry Park while killed. Harry. They'd be death again. Then they play electric football. which they'd be death. Best of seven, they're not going. Then they play twister. Foot, in bills vase. Stinks. But DEV loses again. Last game that's the last one. So death is clearly annoyed by bill said in the beginning. But says that I have to do anything to help you like you beat me like. I have to help you. Is that was that the deal? The was gonNA send you back. I think death like some. because. Even even after. He loses all the Games, but that's the thing about Bill Ted they're still very nice. They're very sincere and didn't say they weren't nice. Like you did really well death like great. Job. Don't patronize me. I love death death is the best part of this movie. So they just need help literally death. Because there. Are Like we we're not gonNA be able to beat these robots to build our own robots to beat the bad robots need help weird theory. So they go to heaven. which is amazing. Why is it amazing? So plays I haven't all you haven't seen it. Little Nicky. I've I've seen bits and pieces. have in like very nice. And Reese Witherspoon. She's an Angel Threes Witherspoon in the dad is like. Devil. Little Nikki. I'm the actor. The Devil. Like the whole point. A So they get up to like the pre entrance and it's like only the most honest saws all cain entrance and builds editor were trouble see and this is I thought was so. Stupid They jump people. Yes. They jump people. Honest person that should be able to get through his death. I would think that wouldn't even have to sneak in. Now you should be able to go back and forth really shit. He's just doing his job. Puts on the lady dress and they're like look really nice and he's like. A David and And I. They shouldn't have even been able to get in because of what they just did well, no. To get up to the gate in his hajj. Maha. The famous guitar player Es, what? What is the meaning of life and they quote The poison. Every rose has a thorn. axl Rose isn't that there's not guns and roses. Is. That is Bret Michaels I believe poison. Every rose thorn. A recall voicing sad sad song. Your, right. This whole time I thought it was excellent. Patana Lady Voice. Voice every rose has a thorn. In the lead. Where they talked to God, which is just horrible. 'cause I've never talk. I always thought that song was absolute garbage synergy. Did they oh yeah. They did I don't remember Oh boy. They can gradually God on creating the earth and all the other planets Mars Jupiter. Here. Okay First of all congratulations on earth it's a most excellent planet bill and I enjoyed on a daily basis. Not, to mention your other plans ours Jupiter. grayness. Ask him a we need like help. We're GONNA. Need how we're gonNA save our Babes. Off Your Thong and God's as I have notes I take notes I take the pocket as very seriously. Too. But I'm not allowed to look at my phone. Notes. I do what are your note say? F It's please God, kill me or anything like that. Is, it please God kill me. I okay. To be fair I'm going to read all my notes because it's not a lot. Bill and Ted University. OMG. I don't even remember how the other movie ended classes introduced to Thomas Edison and others. Old Men are confronting each other here. Robotic Billon Ted going back in time their band sucks I hate I'm watching this. I'm done. Now those are on April. The Differs Union I. Know. It's I don't. Know I might not be hyped to watch like Armageddon. No Shit all over their time. Oh, you just shit on it before and I'm just shitting on this after. What are you talking about? You just look miserable the whole time you're watching bill and Ted. It's a laugh riot. It's an adventure. We go to heaven and Hell. Or in heaven right now. So they're asking for the greatest scientific minds of the universe says station, which is also like said throughout the movie by like different characters, the robot's saying a lot. I didn't understand this at all. So. They go. God gives them a huge piece of glass, which is seemingly like a blueprint. fucking. No. They walk away. There's a kitchen later God and then the grim reaper link steps back and he apologizes and says they Melvin me. We get the robots trashing bill and Ted's apartment. where? They're girls are here now right? No this was before that was that was before. But they take their heads off in there like slamming it through the basketball who? Yes. A. Just shows them being dead 'cause they're going to kill the princesses they've decided. Then we go back to heaven where they're looking for station and it's basically to alien creatures. Yeah. Here's with big butts. Einstein is playing charades with station. Well, I mean, it's more than one person. So are they both referred to a station? Weird. It could be like Frankl's maybe that's the race I've never watched. How the fuck have you never watched Frankel sued Frankel Rock I. Think you made me watch it for the first time when Oliver's alive. Frederick. Is Great. I barely seen it. All their loves it sings along. Yeah. That's the only time I've ever seen it. station is down help. So. Back in the President Bill and Ted, wake up this were bill has a worm in his ear. Inn Ted things. So how how how are they alive again. The, grim reaper. beat the grim reaper he will make you alive again. Okay. That was not explained. I mean it was. But they did all that other shit. Because they ask for help before they went back. And that's when the Rose I. Serve last night. Why are they alive again and you just said I don't know. What. You'd never ask me that they did. Their live gigs of grim reaper. What did you think this whole? What do you think? Almost four I just thought the grim reaper likes hanging out with them. Also that I think. Grim reapers. I think in love with them. I don't think so. Robots are driving to the princesses and they're trying to run over cats. Yeah, they remember they tried to land on the cat. Trying to land on the cat when they landed in the phone booth. They're getting to where the princesses are and they're like I have an idea in rather than stopping they just hit the curb and go smashing through the window. At the House I don't maybe it's kind of a thing. If she's not with the Dad I know 'cause she's with the other dads so it must be that Dad's house. Very. Fancy House though Wilbur is a cop. But. He wasn't living in that fancy house in the beginning one the first one. Yeah they both were. They, both were like dads are wealthy. I don't remember. The abduct the princesses. And make MRI pass out. Bill and Ted Take Station Death to like builders warehouse and they're grabbing all sorts of like electronic components alien is walking around. We're, California. There's all sorts of liberal types over there in California ugly. Aliens. With little, negative butts. They walk like toddlers. That's not accurate in case anyone's listening. Sees somebody's smoking meneses see you soon. Yeah that was great I. Always remember that scene to. Also, he's smoking in a hardware store I don't remember smoking. Was Nineteen Ninety Smoke wherever. That's not accurate. Now. Are you being serious. Made me look it up I. Don't think you can smoke in a grocery store. I have the. up-to-date use. Cigarettes and vaping product. Smoking was allowed everywhere. Movie Theaters, hospital schools you name it. Is. Everywhere Jeez. I know it was available at one point everywhere but the nineties. And the mid nineteen nineties after. Probably, will. Surprise me. Restaurant I knew that the restaurant because I remember as a kid choosing smoking sections does everyone I knew smoked cigarettes so I know that. I just don't remember doing the grocery store I. Don't remember that being a thing. Okay we're still trying. We're GONNA have to figure this out. It seems like you can still do whatever you want Alabama. Alabama smoke. In. The hardware store. Paint. I just feel like that that's hazardous to. Do. Not Hazardous smoke in an hospital. Do you want in a restaurant. Hell. Yeah. In the newborn section smoke it. Up, smoking. Up. Bill Ted. Leave the leave the electronic store and billions ED's at Man I hope station knows what they're doing and then station walks away runs at each other. With their leg bouts. Informs one giant station. Yeah that part was creepy. One big station. Just to understand who wrote this movie like were they like high as a kite? The raiders. Also wrote the third one. Oh, fuck me written by Chris Matheson and Ed Solomon. What else is he written? Bamdad saved the world a goofy movie. I do love a goofing living strong stepsister from planet weird. Monkeys imagine that. And Bill and Ted's recent music. I think imagine isn't imagine that that Adam Sandler movie. Oh Eddie Murphy Yeah. I knew it was A. Bad Movie Wow. All right. So. Now they build he's building in the van they're driving to the battle of the bands and I mean station stage on. A. To the battle of the bands. The robots have the princesses hanging from the rafters and they're planning on killing them for the finale. they get out and they they look at the robots and they're very impressed but they're also impressed with stations but. And then de says what about by but I work on every day Discount my but. Does is basically the main reason. This movie is so great news quality whatsoever. It's also creepy that they're staring at stations but. I. Mean. It's a huge. But I don't think through like Ho- yeah. That's exactly. That's exactly what the. Crazy. So. Weird. That's the only sane. One group. The good bots are. By like joystick. So. We go into the battle of bands. Prices, they're finishing one of their songs. Then wild stallions get onstage. I think my dad has. Generally relates driver. From God damn banks. Get Bow. Robot. Battle. where the good robots punch heads off the bat robots punched him in the guts and the bad robots explode. Then, they save the princesses. Then that Guy WanNa be earthier. One of the old men April spoke about shows up. Is GonNa Kill Bill, and Ted. So he takes, he zaps the film cameras that are there that television cameras, and now this is being broadcast all over the world. We England where the actor who's playing death sitting there having breakfast. Mexico Russia China, a couple of different countries. Why would why would? We watching battle the bands in some rinky-dink place. He took over the cameras, took over the airwaves and broadcast this all around the world. Yeah. Why? Because he was going to execute bill and Ted on camera? Well, for the world to see it seems like this guy is really dark. Gal. DARTH. Vader. Bill and Ted play a bunch of time. With they're like, well, after we beat him, we'll go back in time and leave what we need here. You didn't understand what was going on. And I, remembered how they did then last movie. Well not only that again. It's an end game and game rip this movie off. You know what? I think that Endgame Literally Watch. This movie and. decided that they would replicate it. It was very weird that Tony Stock? Built. Tony Stock. Stock Tony Stock built a phone booth. Correcting it. I'm sandy by Tony Stock. He didn't build this. April. I know that. The bad guy thinks he has ways around it. Says I'm going to produce a key key shows up, and then I'm going to grab another gun goes to pull the trigger. And it flag that says wild stallions rule POPs out because only the winners would be able to change time and we're winning. So then. Ted's De Jos up in resume the bad guy and takes them to jail the guy from the future. But not before death gives him a Melvin who he seemed to really enjoy the Melvin. It was really creepy. I wrote down April. It's fun because local and seen is fun new-look. So miserable. Pam grier shows back up and starts to take off or outfit and it's Is. George Carlin. So stupid. You're GonNa tell me that guy was there in disguise the whole time not even trying to help with not even warning them. Hey, there's evil people after affect the timeline April well, I mean he was about to let the princesses die. So he cleared it. People. Has Faith in bill and Ted. He shouldn't they're dumb dumbs. They're about to play a song with early we saw play. So they jump in a phone booth jump right back out and it's been sixteen months they have to little babies. They play. The Greatest Song Ever in God rock and roll to you. Is On base. Stations on the CONGAS. Then they played it. I wrote dog you play the song, the United States in April. Movie ends. We get headlines at the end where they played the Grand Canyon peace in the Middle East. They get sportsman of the year. Death records solo album I mean death just no longer doing his job because he seems like he's really shitty at. You could probably do both death is on the cover of. So. We also find out that the die like every second, the old bad Guy Mary's missy. Bill get a movie then they play Mars. And that's how the movie ends. Yup. I want ask you. Can Ask me. What did you think April? Would I watch this again. Answers No. I would watch all right now. I would not I would love to watch umbrella academy, which is what my friend just texted me about saying they're almost done. WHO's at? It used to be umbrella academy. It used to be bad or we have I would assume that you still like this movie because you are so like you were like so happy and get the and I was just very funny. Death is very funny. Death is funny. Death is literally if I had to choose between one and to choose this one over the first one but only because death. Don't you remember Napoleon, going to the water park. In Genghis Khan like just fucking trash in the sports store. While, Joan of ARC. Does like the workout. The whole mall seen in the first one is great holy. Shit, we do meet his little brother because his little brother takes the fucking takes all the people at the mall. Rain firmer phases April steam. Burner. full-time any it. I I did not want to watch this movie. No, you didn't and you made quite obvious. Okay. This spare me. I watched it I. Think Everyone should watch it. It's great. I watched it and gave it a fair chance and I don't want to watch it again. I'm pretty sure you hated it before you watched it. I. Didn't like the first one. So it's really hard to try to watch a second one of a movie. You don't like in the first place. Kiana Reza's good actor CASS. We're going to watch the third one. It's GONNA be Great. To Watch. How Can we watch Brow Academy on a real note at some point this. April you get to pick the next movie. I don't know I have a list and allowed to open my phone. Let me see. By the way this movies streaming anywhere you have to pay the rent it was four dollars on itunes. Okay Well worth it. I have movies but. I don't know off to pick I have to look what? Holiday is coming up Labor Day Yup my birthday Labor Day movies. Ninety Labor Day movies I have a couple of movies that I like I don't WanNa Watch remember the titans just because it's so sad. I don't WanNa Watch that movie. Just take that off the list I. Did I have all? I Have Mr and Mrs. Smith. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. And Austin powers three you said, you never saw it wash. Let's watch. Awesome powers. Gold member. Yeah because we watch Goldfinger right? Yeah. All right. So now we'll have to watch goldmember which Goldmember has beyond. The only one I haven't seen. CAME OUT AT A. Man, ended that movie come out. I got I. Don't know so long ago. Trying to keep a list of everything that I've made. You Watch. Do you have that are now I have all the movies I've made you watch? What I do is I look around you watch Dick Tracy. Midge watch the rocketeer. Three now that I have. Action figures and memorabilia of the movies I have made you watch. All strung around the. CONOHERE. Armageddon Smart House neulander perfect. Around this bedroom. Wow okay. So this came out in two thousand and two one the year before I graduated I, was already out of my Austin powers like mode. Okay well. This is the one we'll watch. And I do not. Really, remember this if I remember I'll have to I'll have to. Go for for the next podcast of what I remember but yeah. Okay, we'll watch that. We've to figure out how to watch it. While the first one came out in. Nineteen ninety-seven. Nine. Oh. My God. That movie came out like at the right time for me. Because I was when I like the first, probably the best one is out the one with Heather Graham. No. One that's the one I must remember. The most is that I had pastored fat bathroom. That's got many means Heather Graham. The second one is real good as what you're telling me. Because I can't even remember the first one then who's on the first one? Spy Who shagged me rates. The British chick man she was SPY SHABBES, number? Two. Oh My God. Well Jim Carey was originally doctor you will. Wow. Looking at Elizabeth Hurley. Yeah huge. Pop in this is like A. I remember her from what not the mummy, the other movie. The dazzled. All my God. Have you seen bedazzled? No. Oh. My God, I got a bed to. Director by Herald Ramos. Who Herald Ramos's? Yes, he's right up there gone from the ghostbusters. Do. You know what else he directed April. Dazzled groundhog day never seen it Whoa WHOA. Known that you've known I've never seen Crown holiday. Now I've never seen it and I would definitely be into watching that Oh dude I would be invested in that groundhog hog as one hundred percent. I've always wanted to watch and it's always been on TV I. Obviously know what it's about. It's about like reliving the same day or something. Actually. No, it's not. Just put down on the list. Frazier. God. I almost want to watch that. Have we watched any Brendon Frazier movies? I. Feel like you would be all. Is. I. Remember watching the Shit I remember just thinking that she was like so pretty Oh. Yeah. Plus. She's so beautiful. Businesswoman model. Yeah. What's she doing now? Living Our best let all my God i WanNa read that. What does it say? To, those eighteen, her nephew was stabbed repeatedly in the back by a group of men. Horrible. He wasn't killed though. Okay. All right. This has been. This has been used to be better. If I had to choose. I would please not linked to watch that again. Are you GonNa make me do Solo podcast talking about. 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Into the Storm // 1 Samuel: Chapter 31

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Into the Storm // 1 Samuel: Chapter 31

"Preference all right and worse samuel thirty one thirty one eight one thirty one. Last chapter chapter bruce. Onto second samuel. We'll see what kind of discussion goes on with the end of this but not a ton to discuss this right. we'll go. We got changing it up pages in hawaii why he ministry you know right right so always initial tries to raise one hundred dollars. It's also walked the whole distance. Seventy miles yeah. He walked in on her. That's still it's still don't especially with her foot. Mike what are you doing all right. So we got brian we have. He's usually on here. Brian ashley judd is here luke. Here and we have jennifer jennifer making her first camera. Parents here only here. You pronounce her last name. Drinker but record rucker heard worse. Spread acre yeah. It's a family business. Good hamburgers from whatever. Sure jennifer runs the runs our social media's and keeps our calendars correct and doesn't want stuff so make sure we don't burn the place down all right so then we'll go for lord. Thank thank you for this group of new faces here but The heart for you is also the same as as everybody else. That's ever been here with us. And i just pray that we would you and that we would make your name known through this and just pray that it's your words and not ours and that your spirit speak through us and anybody who needs to hear this. Here's this anybody needs to see. Technically pray that you'd open their hearts to your word and she's named break. We also have been a senior when you interject give mike. I'll jump in today when the holy spirit's spiritual better league also flannel friday. Look bins. Got the ballard this week. He almost weeks okay. last week. grew podcast is changing. That's right that's right. Change one all right now. The philistines attacked israel men of israel flood before them many were slaughtered on the slopes of mount gabor. The philippines closed on his sons and they killed three of his sons. Jonathan abnd dab. Myrtle mulkey shoe. The fighting grew very fierce around saul and the phil scene. Archers caught up with him and wounded him severely saw grown to his armor bearer. Take your sword and kill me before these pagan phillips scenes. Come to run through and tom and torture me but his arm was afraid and would not do it. So saul took his own sword and fell on it. When his armor bearer realized that saul was dead he fell on his own. Sword died beside the king saul his three sons armor bear and his troupe. All die together the same day when the israelites on the other side of the jezreel valley from the judge on on the on the other side of the jezreel valley n beyond the jordan saw the israelite army had fled and that saw his sons were dead they abandoned their towns and fled so the philistines moved in and occupied their towns the next day when the philistines went out to strip the the dead they found the bodies of song history sons on mount bilbo so they cut off sol's head stripped off his armor than they proclaimed the good news of saul's death in their pagan temple and the people throughout the land of philadelphia they placed his armor in the temple of astronauts and they fastened his body to the wall in the city of shane but when the people of gish gilead heard that's all and the philippines had done or had heard what the philippines had done to saul all their mighty warriors traveled through the night to beth shan took the bodies of his sons down from the wall they brought them to busch where they burned the bodies than they took their bones and buried them beneath the tamarisk tree at gibberish and they fasted for seven days while saul saul saw it is he's gone r.i.p finally finally end up so you know it's weird you in the old testament you can read a chapter and then you read another chapter like in any of the you may read fifteen years worth of difference this was like twenty five from chapter twenty eight to thirty one was twenty four hours like on yeah that gives the coal story i you know the prediction of his death was twenty four hours before this way to put it. Can you imagine like. I was thinking about this. If if if you knew you were going to you know like the day before samuel who he trusted i mean obviously a come back from the dead at doubt to you and your son is going to be dead today tomorrow and then you still go out and fight the battle so kudos to saw. I mean it's true. I mean if. I would've known it was going down. I mean. I'm not sure that i have a question. Interjecting luggage komo. So why do they fast. Seven days after the death of mourning period usually burlap ashes and all that kind of stuff was. They're kind of like morning ritual fasting. I like for what about like what they get something out of it. I guess or. I mean fasting in i guess throughout the bible is technically clears your mind and you're supposed to be closer to the lord for shared like think about your needs through him versus you know like when you're starving instead of replacing where when you would eat for with prayer basically the idea behind it is essentially did that for forty days when the double tempted him as remember that so. There's a lot of fasting and stuff. And i mean that was actually a big thing that the pharisees didn't like of jesus none of his disciples fasted so there's more argument about. Why would you fast. When jesus was in their presence. They didn't need to fast because they were with him. All the time little foreshadowing think good. I mean i think today we fast to remove things that are keeping us from christ. You know you had a bite out of this and to reach a point nukus. Everything was so legalistic in traditional so even but things that people probably didn't need to be doing they would make an issue of walk because of that because of tradition religion jesus made the point originally wanted one and we need to fast. If i'm with them you know and so but and also in like the morning sense of it it's basically because that heritage in that culture had so much celebration around food when you celebrated you kill the fatted calf and you. You had all that. So it was an outward expression of the sadness that day show or were feeling for other people like in the village or around them to see how they how sad they were that they would go without food. I'll sell nothing to do with riches. In luke's intermittent i completely matter intermittent fasting. He's not thought he was a screwed up my life to go to twelve days strong. He's in the cold january. I will be one year me fasting. Twelve eight to nine. Except for when i've been sick or the nine it's impressive stuff morning until one. Pm everyday Not one morning. So we'll just to add to the fasten conversation too. I mean i like what jennifer and brian said but also like when you put aside hunger and food like you're using that time to pray like rich said and like you really get to hear from god like in that time of prayer just through communication and pray but yeah i think it's all a question though question peo- i can't imagine you looked like you was thinking because i mean this is like all right so like we don't like obviously don't do that anymore. Correct still some benefit. There's a lot of benefits with this other than intermittent fasting like actually doing a couple of day fast. I jim has. Jim talked about a couple times. He did only chicken. I think it was chicken broth or bone broth fast days like a bunch of days and i mean that's the idea. Is that you you know. Take away with the body needs and kind of concentrate on on prayer a little bit more fair. So why did that go way. It hasn't been the tradition of having to do it. Like for legality reasons as i was going away but like shirts in leviticus somewhere. There's a our church fat. I say our church. But i think there's a lot of churches there now starting the year. I'm like we did a a fast. Every january and basically is not necessarily fast. He's not necessarily has to be a food thing right. It's deprive and your body of something that your body wants so whether we've talked about this before fast and i like social media similar to lassen atlanta's like in catholicism is similar to that so the forty days that jesus was in the devil earning the desert tempted does that does and so they also meet on fridays. It used to actually be no meet the whole forty day period. The second samuel farther end. There's a. I can't remember the who died. But it's when david was king and somebody died and he fasted then in the people knew that he was truly in morning because he says it so died. He's gonna fast in the next chapter. When you're going to say. Also his son dies from bethsheba. Overshoot as the burtless burlap wore burlap and something with war ashes and there was like there's a whole i'm a little bit of kiss. It explains so one book in the bible that i kind of skipped time not gonna like at the end of the storm. No probably not. i don't really want to. I mean we can. I guess not value in it but just i've tried to read it. A couple of times can't read this. We have been like that like a year ago. My grandma's sister found out she had breast cancer. My grandma fast like two and a half weeks without eating anything and just dedicated that time. The prayer like obviously she's praying specifically i sister but like for everything else going on in her life as well and like to touch them when brian said to like they call it. There's daniel fast right where you just only vegetables and then you can fast social media sugar anything. But the idea is to focus on prayer and like your time with god's communication so hasn't gone away. We'll just to sit at the the jews have. I like when they don't they don't eat until six. Pm or something so many all kinds of things. It's just a fast is a good topic to talk about. Because it's depriving yourself of things you need to thank. You need bletchley leslie now. Yeah i'm always here and read it. But i never really understood it honestly. I've told people before. Like the twenty days of prayer fast and we do. I don't. I don't understand why i always go back to the things that i give for. Twenty one days because i'll go with social media or certain things in it sucks for the first five six seven days off forever. So social media's great way from amo end of it and you haven't like i have done it without like fried food sugar. I've done a non sugar and the first thing you do is go bar candy bar or something might wanted. You broke the fast man. I now we're saying. I go for wanna break fast as a good like that Sucks here's jonathan dies. Because his dad's kind of i mean jonah. Guess technically enabler so you know. He didn't stand up. He could have went with david any point and he didn't but yes sol's just pride and all that caused his sons today. You know that sucks. But yeah i mean you could also make the argument that jonathan was loyal and his father loyal to a fault and so But yeah but goes all souls airs essentially all local or the logical heirs to the throne. So god is clearing the way for david to take the throne here very true but yeah like you're saying the tragic end assault. He's just like you know. Hit by gives himself this. So we just twenty nine verses twenty chapters leading to this point that's it just kind of ends there. There's no dramatic over piece. It's not like fighting. Back is not doing anything. He just hit with an arrow. All my sons are dead. You know we talk about this. It's been kind of the theme of the whole we were. We've got another group. And we were reading in luke fourteen this morning then know. She's talking about talking about humble and being humble and exalting people that are humble and or saul was not humble. You know we in the beginning you start kind of man feel bad for saul you know you just kind of once grew up. And he's done he just kept doing it kept screwing up and ultimately i think what it all boils down to is jealousy. What is berry says. Joe sees a wasted emotion. Like very smith getting a shout out. We can't use any of his other material whatsoever. but jealousy's a wasted emotion you know and there's no point in it and that's essentially what led to sol's demise was jealousy. Here's a lot to be learned. Their you know how many times in life you know you catch yourself just jealous of of things that worldly thinks you know there's no point in jails. Yeah the touch on that. I mean like like. I'm not saying i battled as well you know. It is just one of those things that creeps in your head like not saying. I'm naturally for sure. Yeah as always gonna add is like right before we start recording. I thought it was interesting. I brought up. That said that before. I have the verse pulled up right here luke. Fourteen eleven for all those who exalt themselves will be humbled and those who humble themselves will be exalted thought. It was neat brian. You're in that plan that steady playing in the gospels. But how just how that whole chapter talked about those who will themselves will be exalted. But if you exert yourself you'll be humbled that idea like. That's i mean i haven't been here but i've been watching into the storm episodes in like the whole book First annual constantly proves that verse like through the entire thing and right after that jesus about reaching out to the people who can't benefit you. And i thought that was we. Tc to benefa- easy to help people when it's going to bend this person's gonna if i if i help him like it's really gonna pay off and jesus like help those who can't do anything forty four you know they can't give you right honestly main. I'm not doing a pitcher. That's that's what we wanted to mayhem mission. Honestly we're trying to. We're trying to reach those like that. If we don't go out there and do it is not going to get done. You know absolutely. I think through all the first samuel talking about humility versus pride and jealousy. You could almost inner instead of saying saw you could almost say you instead of his name used the word like pride and instead of saying david say humble and like jealousy through this spear jealousy went into this battle. Humility won this war. It's such a picture of those two qualities. Just personified grew up perfect tip. One hundred percent agree all just done and then you we talk saying he just killed then. Whatever but it's like the ultimate in that time still not cool but they're not good for his body to just be like chained up an md be decapitated and all of this ultimate humiliation of what happened to him after they put him on a know that is still i cultural my in trouble but i think you still see that is a cultural thing in the middle east. Yeah we only have those pilots shot down. The beheadings beheadings of dragging beheadings made it. Almost i don't know why that's i don't think it's a cultural thing when i'm dead it's over but it's almost a celebration of. Yeah but definitely a you know. They're trying to humiliate him for sure. Though that you know the guys from inhabitants of j. Bush gilead got got some people together and went and took the body. And we're like all right. This was our king whether he was wrong or not. We're going to give him and his sons a proper sendoff. I guess so. I feel like maybe that was israel's version of the fifth special forces. Yes maybe navy seals. We hung out with you like we're going to go right downtown in the philistines camp taking bring home because of what saw had done for those people when he before this spirit of god left him he he was working and he did when the spirit was on saw he really was protected. Them into that was them. I don't know about you guys but when you think back most of the time the good things come to mind like overpower in those i think those people no matter how much saw head kind of fallen off sure remembered what they're good. He did what he did for done for. Those people. and i mean it's just honor is such a big virtue and that culture and i think those just their way till till the end we're going honor who he was not who he is. I agree honor and loyalty back. Then you say loyalty. Because that's what i was the thing that struck me the most in this whole chapter was like This rate i read that and go. Where's that today. You know talked about it before here like it's when things get hard especially in around people fate. It's easy to say. I'm different because god told me too. God god god spoke to me is a very rare that somebody's there's not many radner died people anymore. Not going down with you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna fight with you. I'm going to protect until yeah. I've got friends and even now like we talked. Made horrible mistakes you know and i i mean i'm not bailing on him. I don't care like just you know we're going to keep fighting and We've talked earlier in here. I mean we all have like things that you can call an issue or good quality. I think i don't have a lot of good qualities. But i feel like i'm loyal to a fault is cost me a lot in my life but if i say i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna do it and you know i feel like that's a strong characteristic of mayhem. I've told you that when you when you came here absolutely you know. We go together if somebody hurt. We're all going to hurt. And you know we're not bailing and we're not doing anybody on the bus and we're gonna pray and something that i've had to come to terms with though is loyalty as both ways. Fresh air like if somebody's loyal. Show some loyalty back. Then got your back. But when i've had to learn. I don't not necessarily don't need to be loyal but like you need is a two way street. It's a different to internet. Some sure struggle. Within the past. That i was too loyal to people that weren't necessarily loyal back. Sure makes sense. Yeah that's been hard for me even up into recently. You know some same way oil through a fall problem is turnover at fault is at times and sometimes that loyalty is only one way and so. That's tough that's a to a street for sure. You just have to be us where you have to use a lot of discretion thinking wisdom. I mean you've talked about who you who you gonna let it in the camp you know like if if you've got to the point you're gonna let them in the camp hopefully you you. You've you've done enough homework prayer and research because you you can't bring people into your camp have a completely opposite belief system or set of values and think. Oh i'm going to bring them in here. And i'm going to change people do that relationship a daylight somebody or get married somebody in the midst of their married. They're like all right. I'm going to get him to quit. Hunting people are people are going to be who they are. You know like you. Can't you can't change that in the end most of the time so being you know a little bit more wise of who you know allow who you're going to be an armor to don't confuse that with saying you know we talk you know just look. Jesus was always with the broken. He says numerous times to the fair sees. Why why would. I spend my time with people who don't fixing. I'm with the people that need fixing so we're not saying don't do that. No no the people that you bring super close. Disciples were his dudes loyal women to you. Know in the whole the discipleship group. But it's just you know. Be careful who your influence you. David's mighty men you you. You got that core that you had called. He has three inside his musher. I think that's like you're saying just a spirit led thing and not a blanket of overall people. Like it's a very individual relational thing because even with jesus disciples the judas who betrayed him. Jesus news going to portray him. He still ate the at the last supper. But it's just knowing knowing who's around you and knowing i don't know interesting curse jesus senior. Yeah i would not want to know all. I would not want to know what's going have to go through know who's going to you know you put so much time into people. And then peter denying it three times judas handing him over for what thirty thirty you whenever visa silver. No yeah i mean the hold this whole i guess i dunno instead of moving on i guess to second samuel yet i think we just the whole story this whole first annual. Obviously it's foreshadowed or leading up to what's gonna happen in second samuel in david's kind of rule and what happens but man you just there's so much to be learned i feel like from saul and just the way he you know just let pride and let jealousy let all those things jennifer hudson you can literally sub into saul's name throughout that whole thing jealousy pride and what happened And so there's a tongue be learned there you know. He was given the kingdom bit given the keys to the kingdom. You know they say and then just to just to let it all go can offer what nothing right like. David was doing things for his selfish rule and his kingdom. Yeah but the fact that people said saul killed with thousand and david ten thousand just eight solo alive. Yeah it's tough but it's all of us. I think battle that we're not immune to it but you can use it as an example low-pay is i need to get get this in check-in and change something absolutely. I mean even lead to death just now for here. It's yeah i mean. Chelsea in pride. His life is a great example of how that can be a destruction in your life or the pride comes before the fall. The how easily offended you know. How easily are we offended today. Like yeah and i'm sitting here thinking. I think it'd be good for all of us to to self evaluate. What what is your trigger trigger. Well what's your trick. Some things you can do you can punch me with like i don't care i'm gonna laugh. I know there's some things you can punch me. We're like going by the way that you there's things you could say to me like. I feel like that's your belittling me that i should trigger. I mean mature. And i don't know like it's i think it would be good because those are the things when we act out right. I had to apologize. But i mean even though it was on the one that acted out angry in bothered me but when we didn't even know bothered him. Yeah still. I mean other. We were just harmless trash talking. We always do harmless because we always we always do. We did this. Morning is part of it. But i when you when you do react there's consequences when saul reacted. I mean also. We're not leading the kingdom. But i'm a father and so if i react wrong you know my daughter sees your kids all so i think and your fellow brothers in christ. Somebody's always your role models so many in your community circle just to add to that. Yeah so i'm know about that. But this to the the triggers sol certain triggers and david pushed his. But you know in in salt reacted in anger. Some people react in a patent or bitterness. Or i don't know but you know. I have a mouth on me. I wished i repent quite often. Nepal apologize at lou yesterday. I mean i'll say stuff and be like. I say that you know wanted that. Come out the way it came out. I think it's also important to because you're essentially saying just self awareness but the with all of this. David wasn't doing anything wrong and we also have to look at people that might offend. They don't know they're doing anything wrong. That's an inside job. They don't they're mo- most of the time. Let's go for it but knowing that self awareness of they had no idea didn't mean to they're not coming after me. What is it in me that triggered that and why and when you start to feel yourself feel that way. Pay attention to that. That's that's important for all relationships agreed if there's multiple times things that shouldn't offend me or it's usually just somebody says something that they don't they don't they don't know and they don't know they don't know usually it doesn't like him using this as him being offended by that comment. I'd even not offended him. Hurt him more than hurt me. Because i didn't even know. Yeah you know. I found out later. So it's really if you think about it. You being offended isn't even doing anything to that other person so instead of bill. Hey man i don't didn't like up sometimes to for sure it's easier said than done a lot of times that's how you think about of saul would have just been like. Hey david yes you. Can you kill nine thousand nine. Just go outside everybody. That i'm a little battery out there or just hate. David was helping him with like. It's who do we usually get the most worked up over his usually. Those are who arts. We heard those that are closest to us or get offended by those who are closest to us. Like if if certain people say steph that are outside of my circle i could care less erla urkel and they're in your circle hurts surfboards. In esau continued to struggle with. And i think you know of of of our weakness in because you don't the enemy wants nothing else to destroy marriages churches you know believe or groups bluish from the inside out and so you know being being aware of like what we have here. By god's god's got his hand on. I say that all the time mayhem what we're doing. And you know the worst could happen is jealous this spirit of pride or jealousy anger build up inside this organization and destroy it from the inside out in nothing had attack from the outside. You know and i think that's what saul literally he. His kingdom was wrecked from the inside inside nobody. Nobody would have defeated them from the outset. Very true yeah like this conversation is just carry too. I think i mean for everyone listening. Mike close like we're talking about inner circle friends family spouses. I think just communicating. And having that conversation of does push my button or like you know communicate. What really hurts her cuts deep. I asked him a lot of things can be handled with communication. You don't we were talking about the spirit and how many times salt through the spirit. How like instead of throwing. That spear david communicate. Let's talk over a flip failure to community shoulders. Really odd same like that. Kid help eliminate many much bitterness and then many arguments within you know friends family etcetera for sure anyone somebody comes to you with it like we have to be receptive to going like i mean if i rish says to me that don't do that because yeah this is. This does this. I should be able to respond in a way goes all right i get it instead of going man. You're just over. But don't worry about that or i'm just kidding are they. Didn't really mean us being able to to respond the way. S and their weaknesses is huge. Too you know so saying that being. I'm sorry awfully us you on social media for losing my gopro camera you forgive me africa. Thank you may happen. Social media accused of losing my gopro camera where to go. He didn't know. I thought that day the we rode the local audit. I push button. He didn't even text me. He didn't even social media. Gopro just gone instagram. and i'm getting blasted. And i was like just a spirit man froze you know so i was like i was like dang i don't know which gopro was his you know. I don't know how many batteries he had on a memory card memory card. And then yeah and then great even. Give me a public apology. Either he later on. You can't say his public apology politics. I think it's good point though. It's it's hard. You're talking about getting offended by people who are closest to and there's one thing like my wife can. She knows what hurts. Oh my wife knows how to spear the hardest heart. Yeah and the hardest thing that i find is like is trying to react like the way we're talking because i know that's not how she reacts you know what i mean known as it gets tough. It's harder yeah especially when it's not reciprocated. It's tough you know. Maybe the track record of responding to somebody who's a little bit more hostile with patients with grace and just doing it over and over again will help a little bit. Being said is this is a great point. Because i know you like we know how to hurt each other for sure. That's outside world. Might not know it but if we're we we know where to push the button if we to punish you we can say that because i know this about you. Remember when you did this. Yep we're good at great reminding. So you're exactly right. Those hurt those closest to us because we know him better anybody you know how many times once we do that the minute it comes out of your mouth. You like to even the reaction. He's saying just anybody just using a relationship with somebody who comes at you aggressively and you really. There's no need for it but you do it as well. And then you're like what am i doing. I don't even care that much to like. It's not gonna help anything aggression nine times out of ten in like every day. Conversations is not beneficial whatsoever. But no i one hundred percent agree with that. My parents are separated. you know they. They were married for forty seven years. No for forty forty four years. But it's when you sit and talk to them you know. Each one of them has their own story and they're still great friends. It's ironic but they hang out all the time still date and but it's it was they and they'll tell you they both knew how when they got mad like really cut the other one's legs out from exactly you can tell you what bothered my mother more than anything. And when dad was ready like he would cut her job blocker with it and mom would do the same thing with like. I mean there was a couple of things you can only do. You can only hurt somebody for so long before. They're like i'm done. I'm done you know every time that we do say something each other we go. You know i'm sorry about the lou. Graham sorry rich that's fine. We're gonna forgive but after the forty to fifty a time with the same thing you get to a point like all right down by a thousand cuts. Yeah it could be a bunch of little cuts have to be a bunch of you. Know a big knockout blow but the same kind of sticking problem whatever's eventually going to catch up to you. Yeah it's so true and like when you're in those are ways like when you're nose arguments like for me like that like quick thought of like say this and like win you let it go and then it's like yeah it's not worth. That's i think that takes time. It takes mature. It's taking me maturity years now just using marriage as an example. You're never gonna win now. Then what's the point. You know like uk why we're not try to get across his ron. Same t at saint team. We need to be working together. Moving forward and and that's with anything is like any relationship. Yeah there's no point in like hey let's figure out let's get to the bottom of what the real issues and let's fix it not like. Let's keep hammering. I dunno. I just love that it gets old. I can safely a time until late last week. Like you know my parents are divorced. Years are to your mom saints. Step out dad. Dad deserves mom. It's been like fifteen years. You know as wild i like that and it's pure maturity because like i mean we all talked about. It's the same conversation right. The ones where the closest to where the most vulnerable because we know each other inside now. And it's like a if you're back in the wall and you feel the the eagerness to cut deep because you know you're going to win because you know they're buttons got the i got the haymaker. Just save the. It's action that. It's like i've had enough. I'm going to say it hang. It didn't need to be like it wasn't going to be beneficial to any type of it wasn't productive and our human nature is to fight back if we fill attacked and in any way and i think just like having the when you feel that like on the tip of your tongue instead say hey i really want to say something but instead i know that's not gonna benefit us but you're really offending me like there's a way just acknowledge i could say something. That could really hurt your now. I'm gonna drop jim. Jim wisdom here. Because jim if he was here like you go through the things that you're born with or that have been cultivated in your life and that's who you are. There's he's usually says three or four things and one of mine is compete. I compete like. That's what i have to do. It's trash talking working out. Whatever it is. I had to learn that i need to not compete in marriage compete in relationships and other things like that because there's no win like winning their he you know he talks about if you who you are not connected to your values and so i have to look at my values and say hey. This is not an area. I need to be competing in. Yes and that's actually helped a ton over the last couple of years because it's in my nature like my immediate nature is like i'm a winless whatever it is and i have to sometimes now through maturity through just knowing that hey. This isn't a competition i need to. I need to chill out a little bit tough. It's hard like something. I'm not proficient at yet. But it's something that i've addressed and know that it's it's there need to work on. It probably comes easier to respond that way now than it did knowing that usually out there's nothing wrong with me being a competitor. And that's who i am and that's it's been cultivated me my entire life through you know just having a ton of first cousins that everything was a competition and then my parents not that they were ever like you have to play sports but just seeking approval through sports and all that type of stuff and this is all kind of cultivated into who i am and there's nothing wrong with them but i have to attach that to who i what i actually believe faith family fitness and so if i go back to my faith and my family or two of my anchor values. I can't compete in those things. Yeah there's no competition in those things no need to compete those things and so i will compete four my family but i hope compete with. That's good solid. Thank you for sharing that. I just picturing you. And hillary. Mike go away second computer. There's no point that it's going to take steps backward. There's also the value you'll be happy or you want to be right. Even even there's times i know. And i know that i know that i know that i'm right. It's not worth. And i look at it and i'm like i know that i'm right any worth it you know and the more seditious another sleep. Yeah the more. You're spun that way. It's not easy but it easier. 'cause you you've done it before you've put those reps and like i know how this is gonna go. I know in a couple hours. I'm going to be glad. I responded this way versus how i want to be clear. I'm not saying like a punching bag sherry like allow stuff to happen. That shouldn't happen. But when you respond be like i don't appreciate that i don't talk to you like that like that's been some things that you know. There's no need to raise your voice. Because i already have a loud voice as you know in my voice carries. My kids are terrified. When i use my real. And i you know. I might ample an october two and decibel to and i need to chill out. You know like this is. I need to completely come back because i don't think i'm being loud but when i'm being aggressive i guess i am stop. I mean it's great. I'm says yeah now where we know. Stay here i think a good maybe obscene over thinking about the arguments as anybody ever won anything actually not there but have you ever lost anything. If you want an argument absolutely yes well said like. There's nothing to win and win an argument but there's plenty to lose win an argument. Now you win. Regret and guilt win. The you hurt somebody. You may win when it's over. Like what did i get. You didn't get net zero you. We fed the nature of pride. That but didn't get anything you know. Yeah it's narayana just like saw. He could say he won on certain. Things never fulfilled them. He always wanted to win. Something dig a little deeper after david wright that was his like always chasing to rich's point about. There's no excuse. I mean i don't think we're here to make of there's people today. There's i mean there's there's women in abusive relations. There's people in abusive relationships. We're not saying hey to sit here and don't five back you know. There's i mean there's there's no one who deserves to be an abusive. There's no excuse for that physically physically emotionally so we talk about. Physical emotional is can be just as bad. Yeah oh yeah but if it's like you know disagreements like learning to go i can i confide in love you know you can. You can honestly speak like you said mature can hey look at these continuously love you but eventually who knows absolutely. I've heard the saying truth with without love is mean love was without truth is meaningless but love with. Truth is medicine or something like that. Like you can't one of them as meetable love it. Yeah with truth. Love love enter. You got you going to. Are you thinking oh listening. good stuff. Conversation is actually thinking about like like when ruins older china. Get that message to her head because kids are tough to ask so reactionary with kids. Because they're so little to do having three for me is like a catch myself from then on my what i wanna do that you know i. It's chaos and so it's it's tough and the montereau young. I catch myself reacting to things. And i'm like whoa backup biblically. You not is going to happen this this way. Every time but the bible talks about the children paying for the sins of their fathers. And but you do see today. We're talking about abusive relationships. A lot of kids who grew up in abusive relationship in her miserable wind up being abusive parents. So we i say that to say your daughter my daughter your children when they see us react rome. I mean we like. They're sitting there watching it and they're going to repeat it at some point in their probably to do it in a greater volume doing what they saw their parents do or they've experienced it and that's all they know and so that's what they expect from other people children when their dad. Sorry did about the bust on you. But i'm playing ball baseball like dipping. And he tried to scold me. Punish me table. oh yeah for. He's talking to me while i spit in big red. Means i knows is horrible for you that this is not you want to beat a. Don't be like mad. Always said do as i say now does that. Say be better than me better than me i made. This is stupid. it doesn't work that way but that's the same thing. Think about like my parents are incredible parents both my but they were not good together. But that was the marriage i saw. I had to like figure out like hey what was good about their marriage. There was not like not everything was bad in their marriage but the parts that were bad like i had to like kind of filter through those and be like. Hey i saw this didn't work. Hey maybe i shouldn't do that. You know so it's It's a tough but you have to be mature enough to do that. Like my parents are incredible parents. Even when they were divorced were very present very always. They're still incredible parents but they weren't good married twice that they are married to each other right. Yes that's they were married to each other twice obviously. My dad was not good at muscle ups because my dad's done a muscle. I can't do that. Always going to be a stroke. How biceps he got. Goodbye gets fixed next week. Dad your dad is. He's lost some like volumes. I mean you talking about that. Jack me but i mean genetics your day to the well. Then if you look at my mom's she got. She's strong legs. She stugotz dazzled chicken legs. Upper body though. I'm telling you were strong. It's gotten from where the introduction of the cordless drill before that he's swing a hammer all the time anything that he built with hammers so his arms were huge. All our hands. Yes rough still like jack but not as pajamas is a dump truck like not a bad way like she's home and three kids like your home try means that wide as well. It's a good way over here. Like what is this pulled them in the house like farmworker drank some toys whether kicking the wheelbarrow things to replace your hip. He's doing something but yeah both my parents like this is what it is. Good is commercial and your dad. I was just like the grinch is shirt was three times to small player phones. No no but nobody's ever actually were josh shirt. That all right dumping on people people were taxed usually so yeah no. I love my parents. My parents wouldn't be the man. I am today without them. Man good were fifty minutes or it is all right. Thanks everybody like real quick one thing. When you in. Brian we're talking. I just want to share real quick. So i was thinking about constructive criticism. I think being on the end like let's say you've been hard on me and telling me. Hey you're doing this and you need to be doing this. I think from the end of receiving constructive criticism. We need to drop the pride. I was thinking about. Because right now you know we're studying the gospels and luke and i was thinking about jesus having constructive criticism of the pharisees. But you know we're talking about pride right you know. Humble pride. Before the fall. Like the pharisees themselves. Were supposed to be these truly intelligent brood of vipers. Jesus was the ultimate trash. Jesus he's looking at them saying hey we're granted. He was coming from a place of constructive criticism. Hey you're doing this. We need to be doing this. But the pharisees instantly like offended. Yeah they're like screw you. Jesus you and look what happened to them. So i mean i don't know when you guys were talking. I was thinking man like even when we're on the receiving end of constraint constructive criticism we need to really check ourselves and swallow our pride goodful most of the most of the time. They're the the criticism mystere to help you instruct criticism. No one does constructivism. Unless they genuinely love ya. Ya responded years morning when you believe you said. I had a little man syndrome. I heard you say i just heard him kind of chirpin back there and he's trying to make up some soft. Cut your legs half workout better. No brian let me tell you what you're going to do. And then as a wind gusts. I heard you little man syndrome joy sport in the world. They used to be short. He's asking for sure he's asking price. Cut off your legs with my chain. I think that's a great point though. I mean everybody you know like not everybody but you see these like blond hair blue eye. Jesus holding a lamb soft. Jesus jesus yeah. Byways is a term meech not week. The definition of meek. Jesus was i mean. He went at if he's harsh he was hierarchy. Was gotta be truthful all truth but also loving in an amazing i think meekness like the word means can strange strength. It is strength but you through. Its constrained to so yeah. It is the very opposite of week. Suppose flipping tables. I like that range. Strength the canal. In kidding around richard say and constructive criticism. And i'll be the first one to say like i would never contradict anything. He said when it comes to physical fitness. And i think we pick on each other. But i mean what's made us a good partnership over the years is the things i'm good at. He listens. Yeah the things and we make fun and make fun at the same time. He's always followed through. Yeah i know. I may call him little man this morning but i go get the box into all you know what i mean like. I'm going to do what he says. But because i know the end of the day he knows much more about that. And i know if we learn if we want to be good wise human beings you know we learned to listeners before we become swallows ride said that have areas expertise in our areas of expertise for sure. You know. there's a track record mileage. They're so good. Good lord stay. Thank you for this incredible group. We have gathered here. Thank you for your words. And just like i said i just pray that Whatever spoke today that it was the holy spirit and somebody needed here. And like i said i was thank you so much for just opportunities that we have and the the blessings that you've given us. I just pray that we would serve you. And it'd be your will that we carry out and not our own and that we just continue to seek you withdraw close to you lord and once again thank you thank you so much senator son to die for us pray that we glorify you and all that we do say.

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Best Of Week 116 - Live From Cowboy Jack's For The Final Four ft. George Kittle, Christian Laettner & Kyle Rudolph

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Can we get Dana in here for sec real quick real quick years? We were in Vegas, Paul paulie, docs, sales guy. He is in Manhattan beach gallivanting around are the guys he has to do documentary interviews, he is introducing biz and paid sporadic which. Biz was here class. We all week hanging with anybody did barstool radio for like an hour and a half. He was great page is in and out of here a lot. I don't think there's any urgency, but I gotta have you since Dana is the guy films that I to let you know moving forward all documentary. Gold interviews now have to be proof by me. Okay. There will be no more Polly docs, doing what he is doing. He's on Sophie, Julius Instagram last night in Manhattan beach, all their friends partying doing what he does. I found this out when a lady friend of Paul's is like you coming into Manhattan beach with me to hang out this week's like, what are you talking about Paul's come into Manhattan beach? We've got these plants. It's like what? No, I'm coming home. I'm going back to New York and Paul's like, well, I go to all these docs, you had to dock interviews. I see Dana today in the office. I'm like, aren't you doing interviews like I'm going out tomorrow? So Dana what to talk about just a total disregard for daynuss life making, Dan. Like fly out one day to do. It fake interviews just so Polly docks can be in Manhattan beach for three days. Unreal. Yikes. So dana. What's a you're not going out until tomorrow? Why is there a reason that he needs to be out there today? I'll I figured his reasoning is that he is already on the west coast. And we're doing these in Phoenix. They are. That's totally what his reasoning is. He's like I'm in. But. Paulie dogs want to stay on the west coast of hanging out with a girl who lives in Manhattan beach. That's just a fact, and and you know, craftily used the old documentary. Do I know who lives out here that Polly docs can pretend I need to be for dogs. Oh, biz the guy who works for us. And paid sprint a close friend of the program. Yeah. People who would who travel lot by the way, both of them like you said business here all last week and would pretty much do this into now. Unless Danny you tell me some traumatic urgency behind getting these done not tonight knowledge. Correct. And you're the one who puts together. So you would know correct. There is absolutely zero point zero reason for paulie docs, and not to have been on that flight back with us from Vegas zero except maybe some lady friends live in Manhattan beach. He wants to spend extra three days there as documented by Sophie. Julia on Instagram yesterday pretty pretty blatant now again, Paul docs, take the three day vacation fine. Do it. Your whole social team falls you lead. Anyways, does that twenty four seven building vacations around stuff just do that? But this the guys that the social team us go do this. Go do come on docks. I will I will say we've already shorting it thought. He had told you that he was going to Phoenix today or tomorrow or today, or whatever it was. So I thought he are you you already knew the people we were interviewing I mean, I didn't really he just says, I don't really pay attention. Like, I'd like to assume once, hey, we do the interview. And we do the gold has to do it. But this I mean, he says like I didn't really he says things in passing basically. So I like him half listening when he says stuff, I didn't I didn't know Paul wasn't coming back from Vegas with us until the girl asked me, it was actually a different girl. It was a different girl is like just come back with Paul to Manhattan beach and hang out for a couple of days. It's like what are you talking about? It's like I I'm going back now difference. I was in LA for three days before that was was very clear I was going like, I just need some time off. I wasn't building around like work or anything. It's like, I know I'm traveling. That's fine. Weekends. I'm going to what bothers me is when I don't know why he wasn't just be like, hey, I'm taking vacation days. I know his girl ISM and that beach. I'm out there. I'm taking three days off this got to be out here for the docs thing is preposterous. It's talking like it's the end of a commercial, and they talk fast like possible side effects include. That's exactly. That's exactly how he does. It just. Yeah. Doing the DOK thing. But not at all. So now from now on all documentaries. Unfortunately, I hate that. The number one guy here is is doing things like this. But now, all documentaries. I mean, the waste your time. Honestly, whether you want to go your dad's of their fine, but be like, yeah. Just to cover his own tracks. That's really the thing to send Dane on a cross country flight to cover Polly, docs, Manhattan beach lifestyle. Nah. I don't like that. Yeah. That's where it gets a little dicey. When you start messing with Dana's life. And like, you said Dana, if we could do those interviews any other time, which based on the fact that biz was literally just maybe two days ago, paulie, docs, to sit here with a straight face and say he has to go to Phoenix to interview, Paul. And that is one of the most outrageous things ever said this company he was also mixing in some sort of conference. Yes. Ago. He he likes to sit. He's a big conference going. Yeah. And what does he easy? Learn these. No. But I think they're a nice locations. He's pretty good. I haven't heard the last time. He's won the last time. You is where I would say a not fun location. I can't even I'm trying to think it's all it's usually warm. I'll say that. I don't know. Can you think about I don't know? And he doesn't have apple does have the knowledge of Barcelona ask questions, but he doesn't have much more than that. Except, you know, make as his ducks are in a row or as chicks are in their eggs. I'm going to say this for gas. He when he's on when we're on the road. And we're like doing these interviews. He's always busy is always doing something. I'll say that for him. You mean like textiles phone? No. He's always like he's either on the phone like talking business with somebody out. God knows who or he's like sending emails or something so shot up the gas for that. I don't wanna sewer them too much out here. But you learn from the chickens from your chocolates trip covered each other. I get that again, sending you LA for one day to want those people when his not Nodar is is just absolutely preposterous. There's no other way say is blatant disregard of everything. So you did you know that we were doing the interviews today or tomorrow? Does you like I really didn't know anything like again? So our pool party was Saturday. That's when I found out he wasn't coming back with us. Not threw him through a girl. And then a Mike you're what are you doing? Why are you staying? And he's like, oh, we have all these documentary interviews we do. I don't think he told me who they were the also said he has some conference or some sort. Okay. Because I just I thought that you had known who we're interviewing and wear now. So that's I guess where minus center saying, no, I definitely didn't know that Frankie just said that guests said feel free to call me if you want. I mean, he's he can call it. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's on the phone. Yeah. It's fair point. Yeah. Those are Paul. It's like, paulie docs, has his his Goto keywords now. And it's like it's like gold documentary interview dot conference like there's just a conference and knows what the conference is what it's about what you took away from it. Why you need to be there? It's just I we'll get one. It's a great nickname. Paulie dot is a spectacular. All all talks is absolutely. I'll I don't wanna like suck dick too much. But I'm just I also without him there. I kinda crumble I always fuck it up every time when I'm like somebody. Yes, he deduced knowledge of are still ask the questions on needs to be out. It's just a matter of importance. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I understand that Paul was here all week wasn't he? Yeah. Last week was that. Yeah. He was. I guess we gotta just use our use resources. In what possible world, and we see page branding. I want to say like once a month. We see our places issues all the time. We see her like she'll be at the master's. Yup. That's you can knock that out probably in, you know, an hour flight there, if that's, but she's a New York a lot like pages around. Yep. Nope. I mean, I get there's certain people. I said it during the rundown Bob Kraft gronk the guy like a rod they'll yeah, we'll give you twenty minutes. You gotta jump. That's just the there's the nature of the beast a guy who is literally we cut checks do works for us, Paul. I think we can probably figure out a time. I'm just a cameraman. Yeah. That's not that different to be like I have to go out and interview like White Sox. Dave. I mean, we did we did. Yeah. Was last week. Oh boy. All right. Well, I would love to I love to get Polly docks on the phone. It'd be nice to hear from him. Hopefully, he can figure it out and give us a call. And we also get all of the the updates from Vegas. There's a lot that went down. I think we should try to get Polly docks on the phone before we jump to that. So let's hit a break. Hopefully, we can get him during the break barstool radio got Dave back to a lot of conferences Lada, LA LA conference, talk in a lot of doc the conference thing, I'm sure we'll be what I think he's going to say today. So Frank you saying we got him. Now, if we don't wanna hit the brake so Frankie patch him through. Paulie, doctor there pal. Jazz. Oh. Paulie, docs. All right. So we're figuring out what is going on with your couple couple of days here. So you're interviews for the docs that that Dane is flying out for which is twenty percent of why I'm here. Okay. So what's the other eighty the girl? I'm just getting no seriously. I I knew that. I beg us obviously with you. And then I got an invite the partner summer for Snapchat. Which is their biggest thing. It's like soccer FAA thing that I go. I went to Eric. I said, hey, should I go to this said, yes, it's on Thursday. And I said, okay. I'm like, I'm like can I figure out a way to stay for the week? So I don't have to fly back and forth. Why back Sunday and then fight back out here Wednesday morning, and she's like, yeah. If you can lined up like there's meeting she's like, that's fine. So I've been meeting tick talk, she setting you up a meeting with you to then I was like wall on the west coast. Let me do documentary interviews don't have to come back out here for that. Yes. They're down the line. But why not just get him in the can while I'm here. So we're doing sporadic in biz on Tuesday biz. Yes, we could have done last week in the office. But we're going to do one before he goes to the coyotes game and talk about spending. They'll ask you. And then the other one is Jared Goff. And I'm trying to line that up right now. When it gets back from his weekend tournament that he or whatever he was doing this past weekend. I did have dinner with Sophie. Julia left night and. Off Gough happening. Off. He's text me back. Yeah. I talked to him last week. He said text me when you get here. He's kinda hard meltdown. Gough one I guess would be sort of legit. But the other stuff sounds like I'm pretty much on point. Like you want to stay out there. Hundred percent did not wanna have to travel back and forth. Stay out there to stay out there. Like, you not want you not wanting to travel back like also affects like a sending day things. Got like, we're sending Dana across country interview to people who are in New York. A lot. Correct in. But Dan, his own number. One job is the documentary. There's no, but I I asked him like are these plant like do we need? These are these anytime relevant soon as like, no, correct. They're not we could have done them in different time. Like in New York. Out perfect with you from. I heard that I'm gonna just that's that's fun. I just don't I don't I don't wanna walk into this this the sewer job, essentially, it's on a suit, you confirm your your your version of events aren't too dissimilar from what my version of events have been. Well, you think? Garrido Rita Ville like buffets down the beach right now. I think having a a lovely time in Manhattan beach is what I think, and I was invited to spend it with you. That's what we found is like you're gonna come spend a couple of days with with paulie, docs, Manhattan beach. I'm like, what are you talking about? And then I saw data today. I'm like, aren't you doing docs, and he's like not fly out tomorrow. My who you doing? And that's what we're doing PO biz in pays spread. I might have flying out to LA to interview those people. Yeah. I actually I try guy dinner solid and try to get it on Monday. So parents in Scottsdale weekend, but page is about the golf tournament over three times. So no, that's I guess we're we're on the up and up where where I am not really on the up. Now, you understand those people are very easy to do those interviews in New York. Correct. So the exactly that's why I would never come out here just them, whatever six months in advance. What since I do is going to be there for weeks because of my other stuff. I was like, whoa. I want to get as much done while I'm out here said of just sitting around with my thumb mass. Would you have gone to the Snapchat convention if you weren't Vegas? This was all I do not wanna go, no, offensive Snapchat. But I did not want to Erica assault. That was a good decision for me to go to it was. But you are the one who brought it to correct we both got invited. She got. Right. But then you're like you want me to go to it. And she's like, yes, I think I think again, I I would stand by my version of events pretty closely that you are eyeing some Manhattan beach days, and you're like how can I validate these days? Maybe. Yeah. So we're on the same page. We're not really that far off. The group defined that the Vegas thing was like just it was like the Paul goes in thirty six the PG thing sex. I e that one and a happen without you. Of happened national. Well, there was the bubble Yang was here. You took. That's literally what I said. I said it was a bubbly gang a Louis deal in. Then you took over the reins. I mean is not a Louis Aury. No. But we can go anywhere. Like, I mean, that's just the prize those built in like the I mean, we this for the most in the years past like we paid for the hotel room this year. I don't think we have in years past we had like we have much smo-. We could have the amount we spent we could pretty much just done that anywhere. We didn't have to Vegas. But yeah. No. So there is no soaring. As you put it we agree. Yeah. I mean, there's I mean, I'm Ben h because I I did want to spend the time here in between. But also filled up a reason to be I guess. Yeah. You correct. You saw the snap on no way. The Snapchat show was being attended. If we weren't in Vegas. Definitely happening. I'm not to go to that. Number one. I was told I was like, I I. Has done this week. I've. Ass. It's like, hey, should I go to this thing? Right. So I mean if you didn't ask. For everything is going to be like, hey, Paul. I'm sending you to LA for day to go to this thing. It was like I'm gonna be Vegas. There's a Manhattan beach opportunity on the rise in here, which according to my connections was planned well in advance. So it was like how? Was was waiting. Twins things six months out. So I didn't know that it was gonna line up with the calendar. Again, we're on very similar pages here. So from now one though, I'm with you. For the docs. Yes. Okay. Okay. Right. That's fine. Play him out. We we agree. That he didn't defend themselves. Just like that. Paulie, doctors more. That's it. I mean, he's like sewer. He agreed. He's basically. Yeah. Plan these Manhattan beach. Well, we're on the up and up. On the up, and he's like, I don't want to seem like as a mockery Advil. Mike. Well, I was in Manhattan beach with Soviet Julianne who was best friends with some of the girls. He wanted to hang out. So yeah, I mean, it's exactly what we thought. It was again it all came. It became very clear when the girls like are you coming to Manhattan beach with Pauly's hanging out here for a couple of days. I don't know what. No, I'm going home at nine AM on Sunday kinks kinks. I really hit a bright volley downs. Shakers? All right. We're back second half. We did. We were going over a couple of days tweets from the weekend. And and this one really stands out, maybe being a little grass. Dave, there's rational blog by rigs after Kentucky not is everything is wrong with him as a human and as bars to employ. I was mad. I was in bad mood. It's just like, you know, we just hung up on him. I can't I in. We had readings on the program earlier. I don't think he really made any sense is you can't I don't. He's like screwed up. I knew a screwed up right away. I. Screwing up. I don't know. It's like you got lost on directions. This is I I don't know how you can screw this up. I have I breaking news KB's in the building. If we want to talk about. Yeah. Let's get him in here. Yeah. I'd like to be in here. People wanna talk to him. I am. I didn't understand what he was saying. I fell into a different stick in for out. But I don't get. It's like let's say you're getting mad about the Yankees right now. Right. Yeah. Early and they do stink it appears again in stance on the deal Red Sox aren't playing well either. Look, your huge or you rigs with tiger. It's like or me with the patriots are Boston team. If after they lose the playoff game or huge game. That's just in overtime or a horrific fashion that you just come across. With a blog like that. Like how? If I if if like fifteen seconds after like Sergio Garcia beat Tiger Woods to win the masters next week, and I had a blog that was like Volvo Sergio Garcia would be insane. And like you said it would have been I would have had to be working on it while I'm like, no like tires walking down the back nine over pause. I'm losing my fucking mind that every. Just gave us walk hall from me half. Put on the headset. Here your new teams. It's always interesting. How you get your new song his licorice just on the table. Unbelievable. Did have that one in the works? Enke? We all just put our heads together. What's the best song someone's cocaine? Eric clapton? Yeah. Before my time still knew the song. So we've tried to recap your weekend Vegas Kaby. I think have you heard by the way what big Castro to call, you know, cocaine Kyle. I think that's kind of boring. Funny guy. I respect him like he can do way better way better than that. So the the bigger things to me of the whole weekend and people like what's KP like was as stick? Is it real, you know, my biggest takeaway from you is you just met oughta people like I wish I had a camera on you when you disappeared from our view, which was a lot with you got kicked out because it almost struck me as like a hangover type thing where I don't know what you're doing. And I don't know that you even knew what you're doing. We don't totally know how much of it was real imagined. All that. So like if you're recapping your weekend, like how would you recap it you made the hangover reference, which is a movie, right? Correct. I think that's a perfect example. Because I think I was trying my hardest to be a character. So what you saw that wasn't the real Kaby. You saw bits and pieces, but I I'm not going to want. What were you doing when we didn't see where you still creating the movie? I was having a good time did you actually meetings? I have no idea what the fuck. I have no idea what the fuck. The crack the smile yet. He's just sitting there. I got. About it. While you guys are saying are what people the closest to me say on a regular basis. I get it a lot. I don't understand why we can't tell what's yet. No one. I don't know. I try to be as obvious as possible. But people still can't tell were important character. No. But I think I unintentionally just come across as a care. Well, because it's like if you left the room for like half an hour be like where he going. Oh, I met some people as in their room for like twenty minutes. What? And yeah. Yes. Like that answer. What is that? Do you want me to elaborate? I mean, I would prefer not to I told Rudy. He interviewed me. I. I'm gonna leave everything open to interpretation and I'm gonna make like a contest and today's April first, right? Weird. May I our announce everything that happened? And I'm gonna get was everything real. Not everything was real. So when there's people in your room that happened that happened. How many like I said, I'm not gonna say the details yet there are people in my room, and I was in other people's room. But that's all I'm giving away. I mean, it was a lot of this the whole weekend. How are you? Where'd you go? Our you guys brainstorm folks left on Friday night club. Where did you go? Yeah. That was that was one of like. The character moments. No, no. By that you very drunk and like sleeping at the club. Was that an act? I was nodding off a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. On alcohol right here exhaustion, 'cause I got like two hours of sleep or night before that was real what time was like two thirty Calvin Harris was killing it you were killing it. Yep. We're equally drunk everybody. I did later all over the past. Right. You are equal maybe more drunk. Yes. Just showed it in different ways. You were. I thought you would trunk our fucked up going to dinner I asked him like you fucked up KB. No not. But I thought you were. No, I wasn't right. Sober dinner. Great. That was a great was it catch great food. This. It was it was a lot of my brain is exhausted from this four minutes and the biggest factors outside of seeing him. And being with him. We spent once on exile Taylor hotel. We didn't see him a lot and knowing there's literally no way to know what he did outside. What he says? He did what you just meet a lot of people. That was tough for me. Getting the boot like getting no, how are you? Now you in the beginning. I don't know if you did you watch back our conversation, the one that I was recording the one that's on Twitter. Yeah. The one that you immediately made public, right? Yes. I washed it immediately. And I watched it like seven times more. Okay. So you are very clear like I don't want us to be like my reputation. Yeah. I said that it is now clear that. Keira is now clear that will be part of the legend of KB or whatever. Are you just fine with it? Now seems like you've been funny and handle it. Well, I thought. It's it's a big part of my life. Obviously it wasn't the most ideal situation. Dealing never seen him since camera the way, Jim. Jim in the off. People carry on. We look is looking directly at Rudy. Holy rudy. If this gets posted, I don't want my side view. You know? If you're filming me, I wanna know for sure. Does I wanna nunciate my statements? Yeah. I'm not used to being filmed throws me off. When Frankie was doing in the hotel room. He was doing very discreetly. And he was good at it with the iphone Rudy is in my face with that. What was my question? I don't know who knows that. I want to know about the Josh shirt. What what is the and then the rest of the outfit was that plan not planned or we're not gonna know till may I posted a blog probably like an hour ago. Put again, very a detailing the whole out of choice. Total. I I didn't what did you say. I I read it, and I was still confused. So when I found out I was going to Vegas, maybe like in a day later, I- preplanned all my outfits for each day. I went through my entire wardrobe closet. My jurors had my grandma do the laundry because she had she's fucked up some things, and I made sure I had an outfit for each day. So the first day the biggest day Thursday, when I meet Dave meet, you know, you meet Frankie meet guys, and it's like my coming out day. So I need a good outfit, and I picked it out, and I had my best jeans one of my favorite shirts, and one of my favorite pairs of shoes. You didn't have the Josh shirt on changed in the pizza toys. Are people saying that? Well, it's what happened the people whose saying me. Dave, Frankie, everyone that was there. Everybody's there. But just them. Correct. Just like three people total well, myself, Tommy, Tommy, Paul, Paul, paulie dogs, and Frankie the all the people. You were not in the Josh shirts. That's changed into it. Less than half a dozen people total. What about I remember my question now that it's all past? And it's all public like you said you had a funny tweet are you comfortable with what's come out? Like, I was actually I didn't publicly as I damn Davy. Did it again like this is a bit? You took a guy Kaby very talented. But now he's now become part very much of Barcelos storyline. Cocaine. Kyle KB knows what whatever whether you do coke a lot. Whether you never do coke. Whether somebody else with your dreaming. There were people in the room. Whether this whole thing is dream, whatever it may be people are now intrigued by KB. No sweat. So obviously, that's naturally instinctively. That's a label in an image that I would never want. And it's obviously damaging to me as a person my reputation and my family, but at the same time for the past six seven eight years. My entire life revolved around. My internet image and growing as much as possible. So. I complex that. But there has been a price in the price of the family because other than that, no one like I've said unless you said, maybe there's other issues like and I described it early like if someone does coke in Vegas. I think that's. Such a non issue like ordering a Coca Cola or some who fucking no pun intended, as an choice if that was. How to do that? I really didn't access. Yeah. But I it's always an issue. Like, you know, people say do call at time. I told you that I don't I've done it before. I don't. But who cares Kokin Vegas? No one gives a fuck. That's where it's tough. You know, you you, obviously the family is number one with the negative aspects of it. I think just in general it just something I have to deal with. It's nothing I've ever wanted to be associated with hard drugs. It just system bad look in general, and it might affect the way people perceive, my blogs, my writing, which is what I'm passionate about the most, and you were very clear wing him and want to be an on camera guy. Like you wanna right? Yeah. My biggest thing was I really do. Not. I really want to stay in the background behind the scenes. Obviously a soon I told you as soon as Oregon one I got hit with like. A crazy moment of clarity. Where I'm like fuck, I'm going to be forced into video content, which is like one of my biggest fears. I think. I was barely in it this weekend. Barely. Yeah. I was in like five videos total. Oh, but you were the content. Yeah. You were in like every video. Yeah. So yeah. The opposite of what I. Yeah. That was like the main went, well, I think everyone's oh good. Well. That I will say that. That's totally different for my perspective with the boss and building characters if I looked at like, obviously, very good with all the writing and clever and all that great. I disagree. I don't think it takes away from your writing. I think it makes you way more interesting more people like who the fuck is this guy from Brussels perspective. It was all great now. I don't get the personal side of it, which you you know, that I don't know anything about but from your career Barthel writing all great stuff. I would say you came out with way more people carrying about you. Then we went in one hundred percent agree does a home run weekend for you away. And I didn't wanna talk about personal life or family life in make it public. But when I did arrive home, I live with my grandma, my roommate she forced me to do a drug test. Did you pass past few KB swag? And according to her, I don't know she's little senile. So. Maybe she didn't read the results that that is where I'm so confused because I thought earlier, and I still may not when you're like, my grandmother screws up, my laundry, I thought that was like a total joke. I passed according to her. This was a brief window into the weekend. Every it feels like a huge part of it is redacted. You know, like it's just part of. It's not you are we cool. Yeah. We're great. We started off from terrible note. We did what Tommy kind of Seward our relationship. I wouldn't say that. I don't I wouldn't say that either. Thank you. I don't even know what you guys are talking about. I don't I wouldn't say it was a terrible thing is in the controller. He's done more standing around watching people for somebody complains about people standing around watching people. He just stands around watches people every time, I see this. What you just do? Now. Nate just hang around watch people. Nate for the third time today standing around watching people came up with Nate one day and Riggs was like I have no idea what he looks like or something. I've never met him. I couldn't pick them out of a lineup. What's meet you made that public to you, which is true in fine. But didn't you say another thing that was like he never came up to introduce himself or say, hi, we'll know someone's like that's weird. I said, well, he was never introduced to me. So I don't know who he is. Would you say like that? Or did you say he never came up to introduce himself to me? I would I don't think I would. So like that. Now, you have the tweet. Which tweet the tweet. I didn't find out about it until it was tweeted by the bar radio is might have been like this happen. This is like a month ago while ago and didn't you get in a like a spat when speaking of the dog first off? I just wanted to make it clear that I did introduce myself to rigs on the very first day of my employment in the elevator. This like a real conversation on I don't know. But I don't know just like just cleared up. I'm not the type of guy who would just avoid somebody on purpose. Why would you why would you avoid rig? Jumper didn't like he obvi-. Right. He said, I don't know. I don't know. Even looks like I don't know who he is which were have which is facts. But then you then you said because he never introduced himself to me. And I want just clear up that I did introduce myself to you, you probably don't remember so swags, no sweat. You're one of those weird brain. So we I mean, I I have no read on you. I haven't had a read on through the weekend. I don't ever read on through this. I don't know if you were really mad rigs. I'm not mad at want to clear, you really don't up. You really don't want to I offered a public apology without a serious, bulge serious. Yeah. Why? Because I I like Nate. I think what I say. I said he's one of my favorite core. I said he's one of my favorite co workers. And I have never had a problem with him. How the I thought the end of that tweet. It was very interesting. The apology. I'm trying to put the end. Well, here here's the tweet originally. So from February eighth this is a quote from you shouldn't be offended mardi. Because rigs just said the other day that he has no idea what no swag looks like Rick's. He's never come up and said hot me k b responded tried introducing myself on first day, and he said not now man and walked away. What? So the way that I took that was I was just explaining. Yeah. I'm not sure which one he was. And then somebody said, how's it possible? And I was like, well, he's never come up tonight. What about one and tried to introduce to himself? Not now man was that's not correct. That what I mean? That's open to interpretation too. I did come up to like I said, that's the whole reason I would ever respond because I did. And that's false. I Andrews myself. I said, hey when aims KB. I'm a big fan of yours. I'm about to be a writer for bar Soham nervous about he said not now man, and I didn't even finish the sentence. One hundred percent refute that that's just crazy to not true magin rigs doing, hey, I'm about to work here. Always gets along lower level employees, right? Clone you level like in your mind in your mind, lower level, employees. I'm messing I did interview. I did I did introduce myself and we school with me. And so when I saw the tweet was like, wow. Like, I'm so forgivable things. I never said didn't. Okay. You and I'm ever the first time in the elevator. Right. Yeah. The one on the first floor, right? And I believe at that point go. Yeah. I'm starting here today. I don't think that you were like, I'm Katie no swag. So I never made the connection that you are caving. No swag. I just made the connection a new person working that day. And then whenever this came up a couple of months later on radio. I was like, yeah. I'm not sure which guy Kate me. No swags. Why I just said I I don't know. So that was how I make a great points. Good points. I didn't think we had. Yeah. You're a good guy. All right. Let's kaby. So do you want be a camera more? Are you done is that it being whatever you guys want? Whatever you want. Thank you. Appreciate that you and Erica, whatever you guys say like, I'll do if you think it can benefit me or the company than suggested. And i'll. Yeah. Well. Well, I think people are going to be interested. I think you're very you're an enigma. Like, your I have read on you. I feel like I'm very good at getting reads on you. I know you're great at writing very funny thing. And I think people you have personality that I do think people be interested to try to figure you out whether a comfortable with that have no idea that I can't tell I won't ever be like yet do more content. If you're not comfortable more camera and be on camera. I'm getting out of my comfort zone. Good. Well, yeah. I don't want like you to go home, and you in grams like looking at other view like this isn't good like I'm getting drug tested by grandma everyday and things I. I don't want your. Doing great job as happy with what you're doing. You happen to win this contest. You come on you happen. They get kicked out of your hotel room for doing coke. It happens to become a story line. These are all things is the world we live, and there's a lot of people who probably would have acquiesced to that request. Hey, let's not make content out of it. Unfortunately, I'm one that will never do that. Yeah. The moment the word slipped out of my mouth too, Paul. You're like, oh, I media realize that this is going to be a thing. Yeah. Paulie, docks was not. I mean, we'll be fair together. And there was no way that you were gonna be found out. Right. I feel like well unless you came up you would have to come up with some very elaborate. Here's my well. You probably could've probably have to say when I'm going back to my room. He was just going to the art. But not if he was afraid to come back, right? Yeah. All right Kebe. We set the friendship time line at flag day. I gotta say I think we've passed they were really. Yeah. I think so let's KB. Some hearts actually, I want to get. So not really said that all these clever guy. That's there's been so many puns jokes. References people have been destroying me with some funny ones. No. He wanted coke in. I like, no swag. I don't know. How? Knows swag is probably best. All right. Let's kaby. Right. It's Monday morning. I'm trying to recover from a long weekend of drinking new Amsterdam Baca launched in twenty eleven new Amsterdam Baca was the fastest spirit brand in history to sell one million cases new Amsterdam was a premium. Eighty proof ACA made from some of the finest quality, grains for America's heartland. It is five times still unparalleled smoothness and filter. 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It's exactly it's a little on the trendy hook a lot of people are in hoodies nowadays is definitely one that someone who thinks that's what they should be wearing what by in the Lee shocking thing of all time. Not nothing wrong with it is that you got that Macy's. Yeah. So the other day, I put on my parachute. And they broke they just cracked they were an old pair. So that night I need to go to Macy's. They do bro. At the end of the bottom, like the soul has shoes that Macy's. Well, I have a rather large selection. Stop shop. And I went to went bought a new pair shoes. All this on the way. This looks like it's cool and hip figured it would make some waves. If I wore it, it did not this appoint, but quits downstairs told me I looked like just a generic character like an video game 'cause I never wear like brands, which is because I have a bad case sensitive nips. So I don't like to wear a logo or I don't like wearing Ramsey unless there are. I really hate it. I feel like I should be get paid to be wearing brands. I don't think that. But I don't like the way logos. Feel my nipples. I don't. Yeah. I would say any like big logo. You know, we don't really like to unless they either I don't like to wear their ours. They work with today. I got a tricks in the office what this logo the penguin fire. So I'm happy with what you're shakes logo is all time. Absolutely. All time yet. Do you look like the default mode? When you go to create a character. Yeah. White I thought was in trendy whatever. So when you have any kind of wardrobe desires. Or you're short on of the new always going to go to Macy's. One of my sometimes my model by my shirts off groupon of there's a good deal. Yeah. I don't I like I've been trying to get a daddy gang makeover for about probably four months now or two months now, no progress there are they I thought I saw them in there. I can we order them to do that they quick route chat with fucking get him to order them to quit. You didn't hear that Iraq? No, what hap- you being dead serious. I didn't know that the quit. They came in and said, we don't want to group chat a more. We wanna concentrate on making call her daddy logs. In incorporate more, I think you're actually in one I saw you looking at some Harvard kit. Yeah, I was in the office 'cause group chat originally group chat was supposed to be a combo of different girls here. There are bunch of people. Who addition whatever the best mixture was daddy girls in Casey, we're not throwing Casey and to be ho- deadly. So it was like, you know, the the the which there's some logic to the caller does like we don't talk like ourselves, we tone it down a little bit. We want just let the cuts like fly like we wanna fucking. We just wanna like fucking. What do they call it the Google gun or whatever the clock nine thousand Gluck Gluck people? They wanted to shove their pussies down your face. They want the whole works twenty four seven that wasn't really group. So they're like we have to be ourselves time. We'd rather do the log on YouTube. It'll probably blow up and be huge will incorporate more of the office. So they were like we don't want to group jet group chat ended. So that's an opening in my mind now to give Tommy a makeover. I should order them to do it. I could see them like making you into their like pimp, and I don't mean they'd have sex with you. I mean, they like sell you to ugly women to have sex with you, whatever. What would the clothes beak spend Stor a little bit of a budget? All right. That's big. That's. That crazy shopping at Macy's the beginning. Right. Not breaking thousand dollars. Yeah. I will say that flog. They tag me and the Instagram I got like four five hundred hours right away on Instagram. All tricks, and none of our dollars check. So my ratio went way up there there. Why do you think? Paulie, docs, constantly wears stuff and takes pictures and tags them. Fucking ball. Guys, just you know, he's he's so calculating about things that it's almost makes you think do I need to be like if if we call in the call her daddy girls, which I'd like to get on the radio if they have a free minute. I don't know if they're doing the podcast. But if we get the daddy girls in this podcast DO, suddenly hologram, paulie, dogs will show up. He's on the west coast. But anytime there in here he's suddenly shows up. He's a little hologram Star Wars. It comes it like right during the break. Like, he always does every time we have on this radio show the minute we go to break that door opens. He just waltzes in with some comments. Somebody's gotta show him all this has to go on their Instagram right away. So I wanted to show it to, you know, paulie, docs, I'm for the rocket very tired last two days. I've not been feeling myself at all I'm just in a Zong how you feel from Vegas a little tired. But all right. I mean, I might trip was shorter than your through. Yeah. I felt like I got less sleep and allay than I did in Vegas to. Jetlagged or something just just worlwide and big weekends. I got final four this weekend. I think the next weekend may be off that's masters weekend. Nobody's going you're not gonna master. Sorry. I don't think we're going to know. Then I believe I've Talladega. Then the Kentucky Derby, and I go to Lantis city. So I got travel up the asshole the derby comes up quick love. I I may just feels like it comes up so quick go to buy for a set in may. Coming and I don't ever rations anywhere. Take care of. Jeez. Yeah. People know we're doing we're going to be at Kabul. Jax on Friday and Monday, I believe four to six you big cat myself Frankie's going, right? Yup. I think everybody that's a squad. Hank in Liam will be there. Is was PF you go into. No he supposed to say where he's going. I thought he was originally going. He's going somewhere else for business. I'm not gonna say it because I don't know if it's a secret. When you do you must retire. You have a gigantic four o'clock coffee in front of hail. If you wanna take call in ask questions today. I don't think we took any calls yesterday calling numbers. Eight three three eight five seven eight six six five stool, I don't have my phone tweet it out generally gets the call's going during the break. I will walk to my office pick up my cellphone in tweet that number could tweet it out for you. Now, if you'd like probably while you do that say parcel radio taking calls live now tweeted out as well again, eight three three eight five seven eight six six five that is the number. Do we have any more drama from our water situation? I mean, no, I will say you're welcome. As Phil Mickelson tweeting at you. Yeah. Why you're welcome. Because you were allowed me to be a star. And all that stuff that we do with corrobos. Yep. Yeah. So this was yeah. This kinda made this probably made bigger ways than anything that we've ever done with four play especially kind of an hour to go with ESPN putting out a push notification at said four play podcasts surprise it put that in there for five dollars on the push notification. No that that's us. Honestly. Yeah. Well, he did put it in the art. He could've updated after people started tweeting, Adam he was Bob Harrell who does a lot of their stuff, but he pulled in there are different wings. I don't think at at the SPN that like really actually like us. So that's what I think too. I think he probably has at least a decent idea of four players because he's the golf guy. But yet Jake on he's country music star for anybody. Doesn't know very good looking dude sitting in this do yesterday tall handsome. Dr can sing. He probably gets does. All right from something. He's married. But if he wasn't I bet he he got some as as the caller, daddy's girls would say some Posey some cluck cluck. Yeah. He he was very Chit chatty. He was one of those two. I mean, we didn't you know, you're having a country star come into talk, some golf. I know is a huge golf guy plays in the pebble pro-am every year that they played in web dock the last year, he did he played in the web dot com tour event. So he's a huge golf guy tried to walk on. I believe four state where he went and play golf. There's golf guy. He had mentioned like his team. I wanna do their golf podcasts came in. We didn't really know what to expect. And he just was unloading stories and unreal Wayne Gretzky's story, the the speed wedding story about Phil Mickelson is one that everybody picked up he was incredibly candid right out of the gate too. He was like, man. I fuck it. Love Barsha sports. He said that he was like humble big fan. I know what you it was. I was saying like he walked into the studio with the safety off. And he couldn't wait till we hit record. He just started telling stories he also I was one time tag. Then you wanted to make a t-shirt shirt with us. Don't we have a clap going with them? You. Maybe it's like the drinking some drink drink all day. If you don't start in the morning, something like that. That's what it was. But yeah, he just started stories. We're like this guy is a fucking legend. And he had a tiger story of fills story. The wing Gretzky's story. I don't know. Dave, do you wanna play the the story for the Phil Mickelson one the one that's gonna while? They said they have the audio LS play that story the people at home here. I did give Phil Mickelson a lot of shit though, at Jordan speech, wedding, George got married in November. And Phil was there and it was the day after he played tiger. I had a few cocktails and I saw across the room. And I was like I got to tell the scout. I think so walked every fill you only fucking twenty nine ninety nine as like for wasting four hours of my life with the shittiest golf I've ever seen hype. This whole thing about this big match, you guys couldn't even make three birdies between the two. Of you twenty nine ninety nine back and apologize to me for some shooting. God and he pulls out a wad out of his out of his thing. And he grabs a hundred a hundred dollar Bill. He's like his one ninety thousand of these yesterday. Guess take a hundred and go fuck yourself. Right in my family. Real swear. Frank us fire up. Right. He was fired up. Coming. What we actually just need the super Kat of that. Going. What is that? What is that is? He's like little John in that. Like what like let the man speak just two minutes Borelli with what we we? We need a super gut of editor of you, just for frightening. Trout music. My clique a remix crazy. He goes. Right over the top breaking. That interview play that again, let's keep track of the Frankie cut ins there with the what let's do it all the way from the beginning. Yeah. I did give Phil Mickelson a lot of shit though, at Jordan speech, wedding, Jordan, got married in November. And Phil was there and it was the day after he played tiger. I had a few cocktails and I saw across the room. And I was like. Going to tell the scout. I think so walked over Phil Eulmi fucking twenty nine ninety nine like for wasting four hours of my life with the shittiest golf I've ever seen hyped. This whole thing about this big match. You guys couldn't even make three birdies between the two of you. I want my twenty ninety nine back and apologize for some shitty. God and he pulls out a wad out of his out of his thing. And he grabs a hundred like hundred dollar Bill. He's like his one ninety thousand of these yesterday. Take a hundred and go fuck yourself. I got like six or seven. Seven distinct points where he just I mean, his first moment Frankie with hall. Does he do that on every? I don't think so Frankie did say to J gaulan was like looking right at him through the whole thing. So I had to kind of look away from them at some points is that breaking or not he's working on that. Frankie's reaction. He's an interesting day because this island's clip to which we talked about lay we've already talked him. But he somehow. Play the islanders. We don't heat. There's no control. There's play. You've got the islanders clip play the clip, and we got a lot of calls. So. Got. So so there's that clip in its older guy. Scream it to various them penalty box looks right on my kind of awkward exchange. You'll the guy almost cry. I figured this would be like Frank. He's like hero turns out Frankie's embarrassing. We want. No part of this is what I Linder fans are all about. It's a bananas. Take from Frankie. I think the chiklis guys are in his head. That's a player's podcast checklists. They don't understand the fan perspective. They're up there Ivy tower being like this job in Whitney's now convoluted this poor guy in now Frankie's getting into his seat here. He doesn't know he's been the topic conversation to Frankie you've been a major part of the show talking islanders. Well, we're talking to things get a lot of calls which will get to break. But we listen to the Jake Owen bit. But the Phil Mickelson. And I mean, you like came your pants like has an unbelievable store you had seven. I think we counted like interjections during it what? Oh my God. What maybe that's what it takes a make a clip go viral. I like enthusiasm about the clip is what like maybe go. Fuck. This may be a good clip. There were times where you just interjected a win hall. The first one. But I do that all the time and four point when we talk about like tiger. That's one of the things I do. Make noises. Yeah. It's true. That noise weren't you talking earlier about how there was a certain the way we are all set up in there that he was kinda stared at you. Yeah. I actually felt like I needed to make those reactions because he was telling me store like looking at me wouldn't take his eyes off me. So like, I was I kept looking down looking at the wall looking at my paper, and I looked up and he was still staring at we play that one more time. I want your reaction. Would you have made all of these cells? Probably not had he not been staring. Listen react to your. Yeah. Shit though at Jordan speech, wedding, Jordan, got married in November. And Phil was there and it was the day after he played tiger. I had a few cocktails and I saw him across the room. And I was like. I'm going to tell the scout. I think so walked every fill you only fucking twenty nine ninety nine like for wasting four hours of my life, shittiest golf I've ever seen hype. This whole thing about this big match, you guys couldn't even make three birdies between the two of you. I want my twenty nine ninety nine back and apologize to me for some shit. Oh my God. And he pulls out a wad out of no hold on. They're all laughing as well. They're all making noises. My maybe. Mike was just I'm laughing you go Mike was saying. Nobody was doing daring at me while he say going, I mean, you can't say that like people laughing. I mean, you you were making audible. You heard the Trent. And rigs before you heard me so far. No, there's a one little where you made the whole that noise. And then you already and then after that, you went crazy one time you just had to jump into go home icon. I mean, you have three statements. He says a word you say reaction like you're coming. He says he says some else you come. He says something else you came like three times. I li-. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I don't know. I don't know what I was doing. I think I've staring at me. It was crazy. I didn't know what the. Out of his thing. And he grabs a hundred like hundred dollar Bill. He's like he's a one ninety thousand of these yesterday. Take a hundred and go fuck yourself. Right in my real swear. That's why Mike hat two thousand because you you know, what else they do. They'll jump back in like, they don't do into the Mike. I just stay in the white. Everyone was making noises. Gyrations watch you watch the clip. I don't I don't know. I sound pre clues you is that a bad thing. I'm just saying you're just defensive about this. Well, I think I got the the my usual what I'd do to people out there. I come out there mandating this pizza. I'm trying to rush on it. And he goes, you know, you're getting slammed in there. So I came in. And I'm like, what am I getting slammed for the last thing? I thought was going to be was this frigging viral clip that we had four flights getting slammed. We're just making Travolta, it's a funny avenue, and it was sixty percent telling. Forty percent Frankie borough because you're staring at me thousand percent I felt like I had to make vocal like like I had to tell him. I was listening to that story 'cause he was staring at me or orgasmic noises. Too. Good looking he is very good. I need someone to add that into the little jobs on just. What? The what was on point. I guess we got a million calls. He can get to them after. Let's hit a break. Yeah. Jay cohen. Phil Mickelson great stories. Live stories. Check it out on the podcast. If you get the chance. What? All right, caller, daddy, girls just came in. So we were talking about you guys and Tommy earlier. Okay. Jank. Tuesday. Ooh, see black. So it started. Actually, the talk started with his sweatshirt, which I think is he's trying sweatshirt, but like a little bit often he bought at Macy's. So I would say it is a little bit off not no fence to Macy's. But and he says you guys. Oh, him a makeover. Oh, we've been talking about forever is just a tinge off. Yeah. Got you. Jeans. I love though, can you stand up. No your shoes. Look good. I think it's just like, yeah. This whole this is an upgrade for sure you're on track to track. What about this hood is wrong? It's just like a little corny like you can tell it's not that expensive nothing house expensive. But it looks a little a little target was forty percent of what's going Rhys. Why though so loose? Yeah. I don't I don't really love the stripes at the top. Why also you don't even like black and white? Anything else? I have group chat, which is clearly gone. And you do more barstools stuff. I would like to order you guys to to dress him. I'll give you a budget. Can you take him in a trust him? Let's the budget. Dave, what do you need? What do you need to make what a dog? Like, how many do you want us to do for just one look one or two maybe? But if we're going to reform makeover like we got it. We're going to go hair. All well. No. Yes. Tommy. Yeah. You need. No. I don't care. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No. You're good. We'll. Maybe a little bit different style at different. I think like a couple thousand no no like a thousand dollars or something actually no shoes ragging bone jeans are like four hundred. Give a couple thousand. Okay. Rodney really love, Tom. While see what comes out as I think, it would be fairly funny. You to interact when you get them one look, and he just wears the same day. I'm new form. Yeah. We absolutely yeah. Let's do it. I'm ready dot again. We're gonna get you laid call her daddy does little dick wet cookbook. It's own only getting the Gluck left. Oh, well, you'll find out. With you came out wrong. I know. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah. We're down. That's cool. Do this. When when. Whenever we're going to LA next week. And then we'll be back. And then we can write when I'm ready. Yeah. Yeah. When we get back. The next week. Yeah. The following week. So you go to LA next year in LA all next week. Okay. So then we can after Tommy John's good take Monday, ragamuffins sucks. Yeah. I was just referencing like a I'm just thinking that pricing. Their pricing is only giving us two thousand. We can't go out of continued. Give us ten thousand dollars. We'll also a little shopping easily take care. Oh, yeah. You're shitting on rag and bone. I don't think we're nights has nothing to do with the prices. All saints. You could I get a ton of ship, but that's my jeans from that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, so we'll figure it out. But I think we should. All right. What else is new in your world? We are going to LA which was fun. We are. We just recorded an episode, which is fun. You see my video when I said the end of group. Oh, yeah. You were like so drama. We did see that. We I thought it was funny thing who puts together still seems now we were home my dying at the end of school scenes, and they all right. And it's like the most wrong it was fucking. I don't know. I don't know. By the way. It's like, I I asked if you saw my video look, you gave me a dirty. It was like, well, obviously, we saw your video because everyone was sending it to being like ha ha Gluck Gluck out of the century wherever the fuck you. So funny. A funny guy. I'm paid to say he is. So he is funny. It was like, hey, this this isn't happening today. I mean, it's true. I didn't make it up. That's exactly what it was. It was cool video. And then I thought the barstools still seems like perfect. I don't know if we were supposed to laugh, I thought it was funny. It was supposed to. The one that they did on like a memorial service for the group time. I guess is. That was funny. So okay. Okay. Three episodes. He can't serious. Okay. I didn't realize it was like a big deal. People were like. A big deal here. And no one else to talk about you. You are all read at weren't you on for she? I don't know was I what I don't know. You probably do know. 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Tommy smokes for last day in studio until tomorrow will be live four we leave. Actually, I get at four thirty of thing with Erica call. And then we had to Minneapolis. I'm not going to the games though. I heard you talking about sports seem Portnoy is out Frankie said, no Frankie to is. Like, why would I want to go to the games missions, not in it? And I'm not betting on it. I'm out sports cease to exist. So you're currently I can never keep track. Currently in the middle of get petting retirement. I I'm retired for at least the beginning of football season. Hopefully for life. Do you know how many baseball games are going to be played between? Attention like mardi moesha's out there and like big cat watching the games. I don't fucking care. It's like April baseball. Dave don't give a shit yesterday two weeks ago would've cared a lot. But we got Georgia and by the way, so we've had his shirt hanging for an execution Presley, the only jersey sign little Viva, George Kittle shirt. I think it was before anyone really knew you were like it was early. Right. I mean, we knew it's like oh tight in. But I mean, probably on. Oh, three games ended murky season. Right. So early fifth round fifth row. So real unknown coming out 'cause I mean this rent probably knew you. And now you broke all time tight and receiving yards this year, right? Yes. Which is strange too. Because gronk retiring I'm obviously patriot fan. So like, no, all right. And I'd say he's the greatest tight end of all time, in my opinion, like the best ever do it. But now they were tired. There were a lot like who's the best filly? I don't hear your name like top list. It should be. Well, I mean ESPN said was Greg Kittle. So that's tough. All right. I screw up names to I fucking hate ESPN. Shirt and it was techs asking for freebie. Come on. I thought you sent it like, oh, I'm big fan of Barcelona's Senate along. But no we asked for it. I mean. Look, I mean like Texas talking to the bar. So you Iowa account. They my number. He we're texting back and forth. And he said would you want your jersey hung up? And I was like well, hell, yeah. Love barcelo. Course. I wanted on there. So I sent it in. All right, incredible. I think the the amount of content that you've been in because of that. Yeah. Yeah. Everywhere. It's like fallen down. I feel like he's like choked me at times like you don't even know. So how long have you been aware barstool? Like, my sophomore year, college freshener college. And we were debating this. I don't think you were there. So you're born in Wisconsin. But grew up in Iowa when I was six and moved back to got parents are from there. All right. So that makes sense. I ended up at Isla dad played there oughta know that and what do you in town what you New York for wrestlemainia? No shit. Your big wrestling guy wrestling seal, like a mini gronk. You can say that. I guess. Yeah. I mean, that's like two things like football and wrestling. Yeah. I got into wrestling like five years ago. One of my buddies an independent wrestler. So yeah, interesting. I I didn't know that I did know that wrestlemanias in a massive Square Garden. No, MetLife outside gross. Yeah. It's outside. Is it? You're in the NFL. I've never played in these other than Washington. Yeah. Tampa I've never been to New York. This is my first time. Yeah wild. So you mean, George Kittle foam understanding this correctly. You would let's say you play the giants of the jets. Yeah. You would have walked in and be like, no roof. Yeah. That's crazy nine. I knew it was outside. Okay. Just like walking meal. Yeah. That's wrestlemanias outside is that because it's bigger must because they need a bigger building than MSG 'cause do wrestlemainia. I have you been arrested. I went last year New Orleans one hundred ten thousand people did you like it? I loved it. I left wrestlemainia early in New Orleans me and big cat went. We did like we actually dressed up as the heart foundation. He just showed me the video just like wrestling people up down the street. I've also fucking boring without being able to hear the announcers like it's different. It's so different way. Different y'all. Drink beer. Yeah. You during a lot of it. I don't know how they haven't. I'm sure there's reasons I think is probably the transmission figure out a way to pipe in the announcers. I would appreciate that would be so much because they're really gonna what they do. They're the best. They make the whole thing. That's like what hooked me on wrestling. But without that. And I think maybe if they do it there's a delay. Because even for we do well you at rough around like people said can you get like, Dan? And I so we can hear you a massive part of the experience a lot. I think it would screw up. People buy pay per view. And I caught because there's like the lay and there'd be like the. We would definitely fucked up. Right. So I assumed w we thought of it. And that's probably why they can't do it. Yeah. People at football games. They have their own radio system. Say listen, the broadcast, my parents used to do that in college. When I called baseball games. Jaylo? Does Ray rod when he calls Sunday night baseball. She liked goes and listens to his broadcast while in the stands a wild move Di. That one sport. You don't need that is baseball. It's true. That's a power moved by her. It is power moves stand by your man. There was a video today of some kid going absolutely fucking financing Iran at the airport these law that normal. What's that action? Would you have to have the react play the reaction, the kid goes, absolutely? Like I'd go while to probably for rod. He's pretty famous. Well, what's your level of like, I don't if I was walking past the street next you when we crossed I won't realize that. Yeah. Walked walked fifteen blocks halfway here for my hotel. And not know. No one knows who that's the helmet affect of the NFL in San Francisco, which you guys have struggled a little bit. Even though you got our guide now guy. I loved him. Yeah. He's the best. Now. He's I mean, everybody comes through that whole do you actually know what went down with the patriots Nokia to? Yeah. You do you definitely do know. I do a couple of buddies for the patriots. So who Cowcross and he's off to tackle James farance? You gave me like this Lilo smile. Like, you know, exactly what went down to why he was traded and whether bell check I could tell by the way you smiled. I'll tell you my theory and you blink twice. I think Bella check wanted trade Brady at the time wanted to keep Garoppolo in craft stepped in and said no chance we're going to get rid of Brady. They have the same age of owning Garoppolo. Oh want so wink as much as you want. He's put on shades. What move? Well, what year are you in your contract going into your three? And when did you become like an unrestricted free agent I can restructure after next year, technically. So what's your contract right now? I think the rookie deal. So you're fought. So you you're still in your rookie deal. It's a four year. So you're like two years away from being like, filthy, rich. Oh, restructure next year. Hold out. I don't know if I have enough leverage for that. So the restructuring thing that essentially if you're doing that that essentially, you're you're you won't get as much probably near as if you went free. But you protecting yourself in case, maybe harder something that essentially why someone restructure I think. So I don't really know. That's why I have an agent I fucking hate agents. I'm on a big I hate agents. Clouds tweet. Fucking hated that was a genius like conspiracy tweet because there I saw so many fucking theories underneath everybody was like is it. My agent agents were calling being like is it me? Don't worry about all all ease. I get like what you like your agent or people at agent, but it is the worst agents are inherently the scum of the universe. Don't they what they shouted to me? I don't have any guys like Georgia like, but it will do things like one of my favorite agent tricks. Guys. Do it's like, oh, I wanna do it on my agents that I can't look. No your agent works for you. Like, you can be like, I'm doing it. Because you work for me. And you can't tell me what to do but ever agents say it. Well, that's like that would be like me being like, Frankie Borelli said. I can't do this. It's like sorry. Frankie said, no, this isn't a you issue agent. I'm everybody has agents. I get it. Do you hit agents from something happened during the civil? No, okay. No. I hate my hatred for agents goes back. We used to do concert tours, and it started really small no agents, and then we got bigger, and I started getting like more established talent. Yeah. And having to deal with agents and from them point that point on and here at this place a lot of guys have agents. So the more successful you become the more agents stick, they're greedy little fucking hands in and like. Can't do anything else except like negotiate contracts. Probably would have been similar, but they're just pains in the sorry. That was my agent rant people know what agent. I was mad about one guy does because they ask the Hansard until you. So I think I saw that go down like, hey, was it my agent. Yep. Did everybody ask you that? No. I saw locking spiracy theories and agents were calling me like is it me? I know I saw that. Now, I have an idea who it was. I didn't see also I was right. I thought when you tweeted it out because of something behind the scenes, I was like, I think that's it. But I would have placed it at like fifty five percent confidence. And then I it solidified this morning, I saw a little interaction, and I was like good job rigs. You're right. If we say name will you confirm or deny you blink twice. I don't know. I won't throw him under the bus. But it just knows a lot agents here in day today. I probably hated them. All at one point. I let those flip ups. Yeah. Who's the who's the guy on that old? Cosby spinoff show who were the why do you have these got simple? Handed me are they like like the NFL or from totally normal. They're they're just yet. Kerley. See a lot of close them. Tell me how well you can see. Cool. Yeah. If you're like an NFL tight end join us, Kevin Jordan game to me. Okay. This saints guy. Yeah. I think this is like a club. Isn't it? The brand have shown them out because I don't wanna shout them out. But we'll cut that. There's no can say that's who gave it. Yeah. That's totally fine. Those aren't like wildly expensive. I think. No. That's why he said you gotta wait till you restructure. There you go. That's that's when he go go at the fancies. Yeah. That's good stuff. That's what I mean. I I would just be sitting there trying to fast forward. It's like, man. I wish I broke the all time, and you didn't have Greg. I mean you had that little spunky quarterback. Yeah. He's he's spunk. Reminded me of my Madden. Character create myself as a quarterback in Madden. It's basically Nick broke every record right? Other miss. I saw that. When I mean, he's the guy that strikes me as somebody who should get a legitimate chance somewhere. I mean hundred percent. Yeah, he played. I bet he won't like who knows? But guys like that's like what more almost he had like a Flutie vibe to a little bit. He's a dog. Now. He's incredible. Love you you you personally had a great season four dollars. We I think we had like nineteen guys are so that's kind of harsh really that's deep. Yeah. The patriots to give you a lot tips law hints because everybody has injured pages of injuries. Everybody is injury is true. It just gonna play through it got some new guys Endo deformed Quantocks Andor. I'm looking forward with who. Do you want to draft to to? Whoever John Schrafft's. I'm okay with good answer. Thank you, very professional answer. What's the team chatter like at this point in the year? Is there like fucking Email this like tax everybody's buzzing or you guys all just like the months, I keep in contact with some of the guys, but I live in Nashville for the off season and dryer CD bathroom quarterback from Iowa. And also she lives there. So I'd have a quarterback CJ Beth is another dude. I didn't realize I was reading on him. I didn't realize that is like grandfather was ill San Diego. He's been in an wasn't like Redskins to. Yup. For sure. It's gone back to the hall of fame. Yeah. Big time name he was around for a long time. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I tell you fucking loved I why we went two years ago. That was my first Iowa game the whole train the whole works. It's pretty fun. Awesome. Awesome environment. You gotta get into the pink locker room. I the fact that you guys still have that in this day and age when everyone tries to rip it down because like me shit. Oh, so many people have tried to take it. We just won't budge hit because which is great. Iowa stand strong good good quality, you know, Harbaugh's played in Iowa. The last two times ranked the number two team in lost both times. Oh, here's the thing. George. I don't really give long. Hippie. One hundred times. So I'm not losing sleep. No. We can't be able. But you guys. I mean, I lately, and you probably part of these teams and Michigan's not one of you guys are the team in the big ten who's always like ten point underdog for somebody in is winning until maybe the last twenty five seconds. And then something bad happens like the Penn State game where like went through like three fingertips like into the end zone. I feel like you always play everybody tough Wisconsin another team. I don't know how you've been versed on my feel like you always lose late to Wisconsin. Yeah. We have the last two years. But I mean, I I've nothing is. I I like the big ten outside of Ohio State, and it's chaos. They're all nice P m Michigan state a little bit. But other than that like with some chard. Past problems. I guess now that we're going. Just a couple forgot about. The only place he wanted to go really my only big offer. I got offered navy air force. And Weaver state knows it. I offer Mansoni. Why were you offer? What you did you talk about going to the military schools or not at all? I thought you were a high GPA, and then I'd know offers anywhere else. And I was like six two hundred eighty pounds. So when did you like you what happened when did you become like a prospect going into my junior year? You're like an engine I gained thirty pounds. And there it is so fifth fifth round. Yep. Who are you have like again? I don't mean to make everything like the patriots Tom Brady is like the Brady six he has like his six QB's drafted before. Do you know yours not care? All right. Good. Yeah. I guess maybe not it might want to be more like Brady. And then you know, what I'll go back and change at home Intel trying to set you up for like thin. Get a little poster put those on their wall motivation. If I were about myself, and I'll be just fine. Oh, you're with the OJ. Howard Ingram your. Yeah. That was a good year. Tight ends. Three titans. Win the first round. Cou Evan Ingram. OJ howard. See Gerald Everett. Yup. There's your list. Do you like living in San Francisco? I do I like the California's fun because I wake up every day. It's like sixty five and sunny, I'm okay with that. That is good. I couldn't live out there and do this. But I guess if you're like an athlete like work out. And I got I got team. Like, I said I got teammates on the patriots. And I wake up in December. And it's sixty five and sunny, and you and you golfing and those guys have to still be playing football. I said December January. Call for shot a little bit of a. I mean up there I had to I mean late December. I guess. Playoff start in January. I'm thinking carry the three things. Metal math. I'm doing like Christmas and those games who's your who's your best friend on the four nights? Do you have like going out bodies like the patriots have always since I've been covering them while young like somewhere guys who I feel like all go out and they're all out the Niners the same way. Yeah. We intermingle. I go out Joe Staley, who's just an absolute legend. He's, but he's in a way older guys. Like, we we intermingle from it doesn't matter. How old you? He's gonna be married. Right. Mayor of kids you, yes. You know, like partying with your partner with Joe Staley, Joe silly goes up. Yeah. Not every night not every weekend. But we go usually go can't go outside. So I don't really go out there in the season. There's no much in the season. I was accepted by week. Yeah. Too much, but Thursday night, if I mean Thursday night, most guys I kind of disappear like they go home for the long weekend happens a lot now OT as oh, I have a lot of fun. What's your what's your like fame factor in San Francisco with the last time? I went was like it was our no was after our. Thursday night game. I went up there. And I walked streets known recognize me. Really awesome. I'm totally okay. With that. I mean, that's gonna change. It's gotta change. If you keep doing what you're doing now, especially if you guys get better. I would assume once it, but it is a helmet leak. It is frustration. I remember I was at in this sound like a humble, brag what we were at whatever. I wouldn't have right. He's a fast. But we as the Kentucky Derby, and like all the pages. It's just race house there last year too. Did you really? Are you going this year? They're okay, you'll have better than I who you go with last year. I just kind of found tickets late with one of my buddies that play the Vikings. Okay. So were you in like that the like where the patriots were no kidding me? I'm old time. I can't afford that. You're true. You're restructure. Maybe tight long this year. And west wealth. Was there all the patriots? He's like everyone was coming up say low, and he honestly people recognize you more outside like the top like once you make it, but because you guys wear helmets. Same anything that's a helmet leak unless you make it to like the gronk Ataman those guys like everywhere their mob. They can't go. But I'd say eighty five percent league. I'm pretty familiar with the NFL. And I know you specifically. But if I was walking the street, I want be like, oh, there's you know, George kill. No. Yeah. I totally understand in you. I mean. Oh, I guess. Yeah. It is nice. Probably best of both worlds. Yeah. Really is it's credible. But then. If people do recognize you that means you've made it like two ultra you're probably making 'cause zillion dollars. And you're like, which I be okay with that too. They're both options. Yeah. Either one's fine. With me. Did you know do you recognize him? No. No. No. Yeah. Well, just 'cause we met at what do you whispering? Now. Rigs texted me at four o'clock start starting the show and goes said who was. About one year four plates. I should've answered I should have just seen. How started the show back? I know. I know exactly what is not. Well, I actually I knew because big told me coming in. We're going to try to do you pizza pizza. Yeah. We do that. We didn't have time because we're flying out. And I didn't know when you were getting here you landed early right? Yeah. Yeah. So Gough guy, I'm very bad at it. But I love it playing up there. I do actually not as I play a lot because we have a golf course across the street from our facility. What's your handicap? Gosh. No, I'm so you just bought the t shirt of the hell hell of it. Then Trent because he's an Iowa guy. Great shirt. And I worked for Saint Patrick's Day. How'd you met Trent before just now? I think I met him. I've talked a lot on social media, though, got it. Did you watch the Iowa like where you fall in them in the tournament? Yes. Well, my fiance's brother plays. He's one of those yet. Yeah. So big fans fiance. How how old are you twenty five? Strong disagree. Dana since we're freshman Iowa. I wanna us Iowa. Yeah. Sheep Abascal to on no shit. I'm in it for the breeding jeans house holiday five hundred foot. Pretty good. Yeah. Smart. Good. Well, thank you debatable. The choice on the brink of being like a national celebrity. I'm I'm gonna say smart on the on the on the breeding. Yes, thank you selection. So do you have an apartment at San Francisco wherever when you or facilities, actually in San Jose. So. So I live in a condo a block away. So now, what do you do? Now. Do you sublet that now what are you talking about? I'm just curious because when I was very real estate when I play mad and pretend quarterback I always think like we're when I live when I go back to New York City in the off season, where am I where does my guy go? You know what I mean? Like, what do I do at that apartment that I have? So this will just help me for my daydream next when I play Matt just keep it and pay six leases or twelve months. Okay. So you have what least twelve months? Right now, we see the paperwork. No, it's like over three grand live there, though, not fun common and watch the apartment while you're gone or one of my teammates lives in the same apartment. He stays there for the Aussies. So he checks on at once in a while. Jan hey, I last security. Yeah. No, this is good. This massively helped me you're my next year. I don't need to address, but Sarah down my social security number for you. I mean, I'll take it. If you want. I mean. I mean, I could see like where you live all over. I was I was the quarterback of the saints last time, but you know, in the offseason would come back live in the city. But I I obviously had a place in New Orleans during the season. What would I have done with that in you know, February I always make the Super Bowl? So I do from like March through June humble, brag about your man game. I'm really good. Yeah. Okay. Went off really quick. Unbelievable. Oh that was going. All right, George where we appreciate you coming in. Thank you. What'd you did PMT? Right. I did a big cat was trying me out for replacement of PF, tea and cases plane went down over. Yeah. Right. He's going to Hong Kong. I think he declared spider, no PF t actually had spied. It would be the replacement if they're pretty good. You do it. Well, you're not. I did. I did. Pretty good. Pretty good on the media in San Francisco, anything occasionally or like are you allowed to too young? I don't mean allowed to but I feel like NFL guys are scared to do anything a lot of them or you have the opposite extreme, and again that can be with a patriot side me, and like they're very tight lipped and everything I mean, I put it aside Kirk fair. So the way I talk on, you know, media's bland, very, I really planned here because I love you guys seriously. Seriously. I do more radio hits. Because you're like we have some people come in. And they're great. Some people aren't ready guy. We had in radio. Who was the worst guest? We ever had the Super Bowl. Here's a wide receiver where where where's he must've on the calendar early? Oh my God. Didn't couldn't get out. We we it. It was almost showdown just to see if you could just say anything, we honestly, we should've just done a silent off. It would have been. Who put him on somebody put him on like we didn't ask it's like Super Bowl. Everyone's doing their media. Let's get Calvin early on. He doesn't wanna talk no interest in talking to us. It was wild. No good. Yeah. Well, of course, it's always better. He didn't know where somebody's said for all he knew he was walking into USPS or anyway, he was just following directions is always better when someone's familiar with what they're doing Iowa little known fact about Iowa. So do you know what the blackout tour was? Yeah. So that was like EDM it was like travel the country. It really was struggling. I was the birthplace of the blackout tour because we went to a bar. There are. It must be the biggest one you've got to that comes down from the sky. There's a there's a couple of hours do that. Actually, we had never done it at our blackout tour to we went to Iowa we made a video of the CO two coming from the sky could probably get an avid. What are the name of the big bars? I mean, you got some brothers pints DC's sports column union union union union has like a whole dancefloor and yet feel it was union. Yep. We made the video with the co two and people act like we just like Kirk canceling that and we went out and we bought CO two tanks based on that. And most places you're supposed to shoot the two is changed. Now. I was like where were we in Vegas to this shit? There's like next level in Miami. Yeah. Date to live state. You could impregnate like thirty girls. Appear hangs. Over the venue for like ten ten minute count back in the day. They didn't have it. And they always be like shoot the CO two up in the sky. And I'd scream Gaz. Paulie, doc, I be like put it in their faces. So we'd have people like it would go directly down to their faces made the video though, burn their faces. Imagine how much you guys have been through used to yellow gas. How like like correctly shoot the two into people's space. We've many memories from. I mean, the best story, which I've told a million times as we then we went from lack out to a foam party. And we had this guy Glenn who lived in Alaska, and he built custom like foam cannons, and is only requirement was it had to have enough home to fill up Madison Square Garden, but we were playing smaller venues, and we did a show in New York and everyone's just puke in because the bomb was like. He was like drunk with power. He wanted stop like, I basically tackle them office platform anymore. Cammo he sat and Cam. Oh with these huge cannons like foam you to death. That's terrifying. Yeah. Different times different is. Now, we sit down with, you know, all time leaders get enough credit for that. I feel like dirt. I'll try to. I'll give you some credit for it towards kill most yards. Everybody by how many touchdowns only five. They don't like it involuntary zone. Let the big dog eat down there. We gotta get a better on a lot of things including zone scoring. So and went in a lot of things but quarterback come back. Is it gonna one hundred percent beginning season? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's good. Yeah. Is one of the guys that texture now? He's pretty yeah. I've heard nothing by a couple of times here. But nothing about like good things about him. He's awesome. All right. All right. Appreciate coming in pal. Thanks do. More radio stuff out there. Is go that brand. I'll give you a couple free shirts. Apologize tickle, actually. All right. We're gonna hit a double. We'd back a couple minutes. Coming to you from cowboy jacks in downtown, Minneapolis. This is four radio's coverage of the twenty nineteen NCWA men's final four. Yeah. Cowboy jacks. The most underrated city of the country. Minnesota. We've got Casey spin big cat Portnoy myself, obviously final four weekend. Jackson back Super Bowl last year. There's places also Kyle Rudolph's charity golf term. I've been Minnesota lot. That's how that tweet campout tried to pay nice compliment to Minnesota and people. Yeah. I like Minnesota. I have a good time here. Even when the weather sucks. Like, no, I like this city and on Twitter yesterday. I said Minnesota's an underrated city and state will now I'm never going to be nice anybody ever again. It's just proof that like whatever you do. Try to be nice. Minnesota Minneapolis like the same fucking thing. Did you mean Minneapolis Minnesota? The talk about I know you guys have like lake wind Bataga in the summer and stuff. But most people are talking about the city, and I also said sports teams we talked about this before most teams have their city on their jersey. They Minnesota on all the jerseys. So it's like Minnesota Minneapolis Saint fucking shit. If you Churton me about that. Then you're a loser. Yeah. And you've ruined it for everyone else. No, more competent. I'm not going to be nice to anybody ever. I'm never nice. Nice wants nobody for Minnesota was chirping you right walking through here. Everybody's like, hey, we're great like Sates. Do I said I like it here. Take it run antics. Yeah. I felt like oh into bending them during the Super Bowl why Super Bowl in Minnesota. It's awesome negative twenty. Very you're not called. You're not wired to give compliments. Well, and also just use the language to really think it was that big. I mean, no, I don't think it's a big deal because I know you. Classic. Dave, Minneapolis, and Minnesota is identical. Basically as you're saying, I think you're saying median apple saying. It'd be like if you went to Austin and saw the Texas uniforms and said the city of Texas go. Go. You said they have Minnesota on everything. That's what they do at UT says Texas all over it at the end of the day. You can't be a fan of day Portnoy and be like how could he fuck that? It's it's a dear. That's my. Minneapolis. Actually, my first response on Twitter to that controversy. Totally to four. Yeah. Before to lead it before. I did my other. I was gonna say I wrote Minneapolis, and it's spellcheck to Minnesota. But never been like now, and that's not true because I actually can't spell bring yet say it either so up. It's Minneapolis, Minneapolis. Fucking like this place, but just say. Thank the twin cities, Linda ten thousand fucking cool city first year two years ago, we were on the roof. Doug, before we ever did any events all time moment when that gay guy was like, you're the hottest guy ever seen who we were. We were here for on K prize. Yes. I told the story thousand times we've got an off an elevator and a cake. It was gay Pride Day so ks everywhere looked me up and down, and I literally took his breath away. He goes, whoa. Don't put a little pep in your step. I fucking like tires cross. I wasn't looking at you. That's necessary. Because different Minnesota, Minneapolis. Tickets taken out on everybody is the whole like gay drudge the hat was just stunk. It really straight from Nantucket the perfect hand that one good complement. And this what you're trying to do yesterday with the tweet a good complement will give you a week's worth of like feeling good by your. So I tried to call me skinny, you know, I was like, oh, yeah. That's nice. They're like, you're looking good. I was like, I know he's not really meaning that, but that will be something. I'll get extra food tonight for dinner because I'm good. I look. Yeah. You're gonna commit yourself when you look in the mirror like looked up at all something even better. There's from the gays, right? Don't handout compliments. This guy was absolutely like stunt when the Elvis they only handout compliments to the other thing about Minneapolis. Every time we come here you buy car. Yeah. I bought a car today bought a car today. So the the back story. But car is fucking awesome. When we did the Kyle Rudolph golf tournament. Call Colorado has like I think is Maury vintage Maury cars. There's something that Beck who gives Kyle cars to drive to biking's gains in the sick cars. So when we did the golf tournament we go out to cars, I met the guy and he has like these antique type booking cars at a perfect Kentucky. So I saw it. He brought to the hotel. I drove into the piece of view. It was like how much is the car ninety five hundred bucks less than one bet. One bet. Yeah. I bought as part right out there me at break. Drove it today. It's fucking awesome. What are you gonna do? It the brakes don't work, really great. Another. Gonna take it. That probably will cost more won't it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a nineteen. It's a nineteen thousand nine hundred seventy seven Ford F one fifty fucking sick. I didn't know what fifty. I think it comes at sand the back. Oh, yeah. The wheel was looses fucking. We're going out. Yeah. Yeah. Sick. That was a tricky to dry. I mean, it's not built for the highway at this day and age there were a couple times approaching traffic. He's like the brakes needs some work. Hear. Does it has a cassette and like one of the rolling? You get like a sick like cassette mix tape. You know, just get it entirely cata Cadillac of a bunch of of tapes. That's like sep- Lynn, and yeah, that's one of my business ideas, which I haven't. And by the way, why should your business idea just to drive it for month? And then sell it on tucked his day portnoy's car, Jon Voight, car market up. So shout out real quick. What were you on the rundown run down yesterday? You said you were going to read a book because you're not gambling anymore, which I think you're you're dangerously close to gambling again, I've been like a three day retirement, and you're going to if you don't gamble, and you don't watch sports, I send just gonna read the weather's not nice enough. It's nice. You can ignore it. So I said I'm going to read books on schemes. Yeah. Just like I'm going to learn how to scheme and some stew showed up one up on Wall Street. So I got my first scheme book, which is kind of excited. Let me see it of Wall Street starting at and there was some devils lettuce in the move. This is easy. How how do use what you already know to make money in the market? So you already know it. Yeah. Your first running you're gonna scheme Wall Street. That does seem vicious well with like a car washes. Go to go right to the top down. The biggest biggest baddest dude in in the prison yard. I like that. I have a question. Here's a site question. I was thinking about maybe Franken we're talking. So Minnesota's at the Super Bowl now in the final four is this a situation where Minnesota like live in the moment because they're probably not have another pick of. Yeah. They'll never get the Super Bowl again. They will get the final foregin because the final four is weird. And that it goes like, it's Senate Tonio, Indianapolis, Minnesota up they ever had the they've had. First one here, we can bring up to Christian leader, maybe second one. But you're right. It's this is like the glory days of Minnesota took great time to be a Minnesota. Right. And by the way, we decide some back football teams think law's gonna say the one thing we forgot to mention when we did sports visors, and we both like Michigan state Kirk cousins is giving a pre game speech. Admission safe. I hate that. I don't like that. I've seen a Kirk cousins pre game speech. I would actually be shocked. Michigan state even shows fan. Viking fans light Kirk. Oh, no. I don't think it's actually cousins. Like if game little little funny story for all you Minnesota fans at this year Super Bowl somehow the wires got crossed and people thought Kirk cousins staying at our house once every two hours, we get a phone call like yoke, can you send Kirk cousins outside we're here to pick them up. It's like he's not here just outside one day in the NFL PA was sitting in our drive to pick him up waiting for Kirk cousins. I was like listen, he's not in all we can hide Kirk cousins. Why that happened? No. They just thought he was hanging out with Kirk cousins, dude. He sued us he Britain to on. How you like that? I just can't get over that that grill picture he had a couple years ago where you had these really nice steaks on his grill. But he put him on tin foil. Yikes. That's it right there. Like, everything you need to know about the come back from. He's done tweets. Like, oh, look about using the tin foil stone pro when you don't when when people aren't watching. You're you're bringing the tin foil. Yeah. That's not a good. So you could put vegetables onto maybe salmon, I used to have a fish thing. It was built for fish, all the plank. Yep. Burn your hand. Every every yes steak. No, no, no. I agree. So look around here for the final four. We gotta get some final score discussion. First off, we got Mitch points bet. New Jersey's premier sportsbook sign up with code barstool. You're gonna get your first two bets guaranteed up to one thousand dollars. If you lose on your first fix odds or points betting wager. Get refunded in bonus points, March madness hours or more on any tournament team and get three dollars for every three pointer your team hits. It sounds like a great deal. Dave, you're not overly excited about this. Final four. We saw this. I get my brain is jumping around. There's so many stories by the way, Minnesota also maybe that's why like is a huge huge huge are still city big huge when you get hockey community and the big ten because we own sneaky, we own at borstal the big ten when you think about it. We have it's a very fish again, Wisconsin Penn State. Iowa Marilyn, Maryland, very weird. How that state? Yeah. We have a Mike in the Murdoch t shirt. Absolutely a stunning t-shirt to be worn rigs. Are you are you? When you go on the road. Are you like this is nice? I get a little break every time. Wake up. Nobody expects me to do show. It's like Trenton they're bushes in there. I don't know what the hell's going on people do tweet at me like five minutes into the show. There's things off the fucking rail. You're gonna hear about that that shirt. No that you just said you're glad you don't have everything I say on here. I get basically I have to do like a deposition over. Yes. Always for whatever statement. But I will say that shirt that's huge for them that we're talking about you get a complimentary or changes, your whole guess them. Seeing that shirt now they're going to be like they got like job security. They're gonna use that as leverage against Dave. What about that shirt? That was Minnesota fucking one in the entire country. Really mad at me for having mardi mush on the show. They were like you're recycling stories with Casey, and he tried to defend it. They actually mad that mardi much recycling stories. They don't think anything if they said it. They mean it literally don't fake. I actually had to tell my dad like last week like keep keep my name off your lips. Like, I'm I'm sick of hearing things you're saying about me, like just don't talk about me, you live your life, and I'll live mine. So now what about things is try to get him? Tell stories and stuff about Dave. And then he gets all stressed out. He's like he's I know he doesn't like when I do this. I'm like what does like when you do what he gets? We'll be here all about this. Don't worry. And it's nice on the road. Like, you said athlete Ben a little bit. Somebody else covers it spent tastic. Babysit to grumpy old men right to your question the final four. So I'm obviously Michigan guy. I thought we'd be here. So. Oh, you are Texas Tech. I told you they did exactly what we stopped score. Are these Texas? Stuck people live here that you come from Lubbock from Laura so we talked about this earlier. I think in I think I believe this because it you we're we're trying to figure out what would have the most bands from what school and isn't Lubbock like the hardest place to travel to and from the world. Yes. I thought it was college station. No college stations our from Huston and hour and a half of Austin two and a half from Dallas Lubbock is in the middle of fucking. No, right. So I think they'll have the least amount of fans because of that. And but if you have an airport, so they can get on an airplane at comes to atlas. You can't fly to wreck from Lubbock to hear. No, they're saying, no, no. They took like system. They did every you have free schools. Really? That are never in the final four. You have. We got the who's fucking. That's a great shirt shirt. Jinya perennial choker. But now, do you think they're do erased after when at all which actually would be like when people are saying, what's the story this final four numbers? Like is Bruce, bro. It has to be the fact that Virginia's gonna go from the lowest lows possibly the highest because that does a race. If I win at the year after if they went in five years, it doesn't. But if they win it this year, I think it races last. I almost think it's already raised by them getting here. Winnings. You can always say, yeah. But member where they wanted. But there's something about the final four in. It's like one of the. In a sense like a victory like Wisconsin to that's a ring so Franks the only resign, discreet is because they're very close to win yet. But if you get the final porn and lose by ten and loyal around Haga lasts forever. The college football playoffs. Now too though, it's just the final four it the fun of every step Sweet Sixteen anyway, you get to the second weekend. It's like, oh, he's a Sweet Sixteen coach that's also on a band, and usually I make fun of that. But putting final four the tournament so far. Yes, it is getting there. So you have Jinya, obviously, what happened last year is this. Well, no. Today's the first four for Auburn in Texas Tech. I believe I don't know about football school. Going to travel like it's auburn's gonna travel huge. They I was at the practice today. Half the arena was packed fucking practice. I travel like football Lubbock. I don't know. Because I think it's very hard. Well, there's also that weird dynamic with the final four because I think a lot of the Michigan state. I would imagine probably won't have as many fans Saturday night. And then they'll all come Monday. When Wisconsin was in Indianapolis, it was like not that many Wisconsin's then when they got to the final it was right if which is actually smart way to do it. I it's a happy to be there think you're gonna win it all kind of. But they should do either. Do it Friday Sunday. I I agree. It sucks for people on days sucks me. We're leaving Monday night. Yeah. That's because we don't care necessarily about direct watch on the plane, right? All right. So I don't know what these guys over here. The sun out to Muskie's Minnesota. Still wander? Anyone still wonder I lived in Stillwater? Oh, I lifted mount so shout out to mount live in Bonn. The bar is fit is Muskie's. Probably is. Well, what what? Vegas band is fish out a fish. Yeah. All right. Whatever I thought for sure it was the part. I sat it out how fish because the other day. Due out. Hell, no. Prehistoric fish that you get in the mid western saying, they can eat a poodle. Fuck it swallow bad like teeth, like sharks, huge poodles what a channel poodles are a little bit big. Guests. Better special guests, Christian later is onset. Now, look I'm looking at this right here. This looks awesome. We got the land of lakes botched shot force competition among university teams. Why don't you tell us a little bit about this? Those are Muskie's, you know, every year I go to the final four, and I do stuff with companies, but this year Lando lakes approached me and said, we're gonna send the box of metal to seven schools, and they got to create a machine too. So I thought it was a great idea. My mother was a teacher. My father was a coach. So I'm really into education and economics and all this stuff. So I thought it was a neat idea. And the the four final four teams are Purdue Minnesota, Wisconsin and South Dakota state. And I'm glad to tell you that the university of Minnesota's bought is the number one seed I've seen. It's unbelievable. Wisconsin machine is ranked number fourth seed is not doing so right now. So I think the you is going to beat the badgers in terms of the botched shot challenge. That's monty. When Sunday night day at noon, okay? In the sale high school Purdue aren't they like an engineering send like astronauts. They don't have like really cruel. So they have nothing to do there except film robot. Yeah. Share machine is awesome. I've seen it. But the university of Minnesota's the number one seed right now where do getting. Duke didn't even get a machine we're more into basketball and final four. Well, really get the final. We actually I was saying there's somebody up there in his shirt. I see that. There's gotta be nothing worse when you put your travel for the final four before the like those guys clearly the trip early. Yeah. Speaking to I've been on this for while this team all the hype everything with them over rated would you say that there's something wrong with this team. Like in today's day college basketball, if those three guys are as good as everyone says, they are they should've walked through the national championship. Well, there's a thing called upperclassmen leadership or senior leadership. So it really helps when you have some juniors and seniors on your team, and we mentioned during gold wire the and he's only a sophomore. But he really settled down when he was on the court, and when you got four or five freshman out there, there's just not enough experience to go against cash Winston at Michigan. State who's an upperclassman? So it really helps that juniors seniors out there. And yes, Duke was missing something. It's called senior leadership or upperclassmen leadership experience. All that stuff helps I didn't do very well at my first two final fours took until our junior to win in one of them. You made the final four and he played arguably one of the greatest teams of all time in UNLV. I mean, it's a little bit different. You guys went all the way. They're just think the way we heard what are they saying those three guys it'd be lottery picks. Yeah. They would be the first time second time in history that three guys from the same school went top ten. The only other time it's ever happened. With Florida joke him Noah with our time. What level I always thought basketball? If the talent is that great it overcomes senior leadership it overcomes. What I would say you'll probably decrease since you like. His boy, but pretty bad coaching coach K. All of that is just like you're so much better. How do you explain silence? The best player that shot stout at the end like close games Zion shooting. It's all reddish, right? Like, how is it that coaching? I did see get the ball little the last three minutes of the game. And I think he passed it once or twice, so maybe he was a little tired or maybe he's a junior. He's going to say, I gotta shoot this fall. So he was a little too on selfish in those instances. And even when I was watching the game. I'm like, why did you pass it sign you need to shoot the ball? So. It doesn't matter. How much coach case says in the time Olic sign you've got to get it. You gotta shoot it. Sometimes you make mistake pass it sometimes you're not selfish enough designs. Very unselfish kid. I was more selfish as a senior as I was as a freshman, Jared, stand more selfish, not unselfish. Why was I'm more selfish senior coach K would say behind closed doored. If you pass the ball, I'm going to kill you. So he taught me to be more selfless. So at the end the games when you were at Duke would coach K run plays. Or I think what happens now is a lot of teams. They're just like they fall in love with the guy who could take someone off dribble. They're like RJ Barikot co-head dribbled around drive. Maybe maybe maybe get someone off balance and take a three pointer. Whereas you saw what happened when Michigan state when they needed a bucket? They ran a great set. And they got that open shot where they had a little confused with someone veal tip. It a little too low. The game is changed that much. Now, we're geyser coats like give you the best player. Just let them go off the no I don't think so they might let them do that part of the game. But in the end a game situation, they're being very very you're going to do this. You're going to do this the ball should go here. Right. But still RJ bear the heat of the moment. What's the buff moving around? Yes. Get lost. Way to Kazak in the Maui in. But he he just throw into five guys ten times in a row, actually and just didn't pick it out. And they never where they actually had a great and a game play verse for state. Yeah. I know on this because I'm betting all these games. My brain, Florida state. They got a wide open three and they won the game. But the Barrett was replaced. I don't know how brain tonight Rhoda R J a little more at the end because he's the better better free throw shooter designed so thinking if he gets Powell, Yep. We got a better chance with them. Just backfired this last game. Yeah. I do that the worst. How he missed the one. He needed me. And then he accidentally made the one. Tried so hard. Yeah. How invested are you into in terms of a fam- like watching on my God? It's like it's like it's my child out there. I have a thirteen year old son. And when he does something good in his game right now, my heart warms up. And when I'm watching do even though they're not my children in eighteen years old, my heart warms up when they do good at. That's that's that's how much I love them. That's how much I'm invested in the program. Diane is generational talent. Like, everybody's saying is for sure I've never seen anyone them. I've never seen anyone as bouncy in his powerful. Yeah. Betting angle thing is David I are degenerates. He played in four final crazy stat. Layton, played twenty three out of twenty four games that he could've tournament which is insane the Twenty-three and term McCain's the difference between going from Sweet Sixteen day to final four when you're playing in a football stadium. You played in the dome the old dome year, how hard is that is shooter to justify it is tough. When there's all that base behind the the hoops, it is different, but you can adjust to it. You just gotta shoot lake the day before and get a lotta shots up the day of, but it's a little different. Yeah. To you still get chirped like if loses because we also got I walked right here. Say dukes people going. You're the face of hatred like thirty for thirty. I hate Christian late, by the way, we. Brecon hate the guy who wrote that song. The original is one of our. It's the goal per. AT read it I actually wrote down here. So I think the most hateful you're saying the guy who made the YouTube video JJ Rettig what we hate. Oh, but you got but you're not a huge fan. Well, I was at Michigan right wrote. The Betty is all the time. But that guy, it's still awesome. At the end of the thirty for thirty. When he when he says, but goddamn dukes just the best the of that scene. Gives into it. Yeah. It doesn't matter. How many YouTube videos, he makes total or how many haters out there? It's just an I'll be the first say it's because the coach K. When I was in the in the NBA almost every NBA player would say I wish I could play for coach gate one time for one year that that's how good yeah. Yeah. That's what he what he likes to tell you all the guys like to tell you. But he also he's this certain things you're not a coach K go like. Yelled at the Oregon. Yeah. Free lost. He just does things like very hypocritical. Now that I didn't see, but I have heard about it. And I would like to see it because I. Terry christian. Yeah. The locker rooms and gifts loser. The kid behaved the room. So. Yeah. Clock was like it was either take a relation. Wasn't that? Crazy does coach Kane make mistakes? Yes. Do you not love someone just because they make daycare and there. No does he fake injuries? When he thinks he has bad ninety-nine the only year that didn't go to the tournament. Was you got back, sir? So what's your point up saying that this is not a tournament every sphere? No they didn't make the tournament because he wasn't co Dr. Ready doing? What back Rodney l went harm? Listen. Here's the one thing. I will say he has two artificial hips to. I feel bad. One thing is though it whether you wherever you fight your Duke fan, if you're Duke makes basketball basketball because I do eat Duke so much and I hate coach pace so much, but the passionate that I have for my hatred and everything that's what makes basketball Notre Dame fast, yet more fun when they're in it they've been way more competitive. So here's my guys the most hateful two guys of all time. Where would you rank them you're in there? Obviously, we have Rettig we have Hurley who. So hateful. Whoa. Joe? Because he kept slapping the full fire. They all white thing. That's I Jay Williams is in there. I don't think I think that plays a factor. It's like your haircut your haircut. Was so like preppy the little flow. It's like this fucking guy. Grayson Allen, of course, tripping. But it is that's part you everywhere. What year I graduated in ninety nine. So we I was there. Right. And like you're there for two ninety nine. Before we were there when the five came in. And you guys I remember all of it. I don't hate to his much as maybe I'm leading on like like it in there. But I actually do think the white plays a factor in. That's bad. I don't understand that the other Dan Twitter, someone that causes I on that do relate days and all that. I just now I think this group is, but you I mean, you went Hurley redefined what hating people are all about. I mean, you had a look about one that you stopped on the Kentucky guy. Do you think? The hate comes from seeing them too much and four straight final hour. It only happens. It's the call boat. The perfect story. Yeah. Every end merge in every April. You see our faces on the TV every node or years in a row. I would get tired of that. No, no. I got tired of seeing myself. The only person I wouldn't get tired of seeing four days in a row is my children. But you also carry yourself in a sorta listen patriots fan favorite team the world same. Everyone hates them because they win and you see him over over. But how can you love the patriots? When they're the best of the best of the best. But then hey do when. Are the best of the best bet if I was a fan. I would love it by grew up. I grew up in New England. Okay. That's why I admit it. But you gotta be like that across the board. I love Duke because I went there. But I also love the patriots. And I'm not from New England. Why do I love the patriots because they're the bed? How can you? Winters. We're becoming fast friends. Does your son play hoops, obviously, he does their chance and outside chance. Christian late. Your son at Duke would be unbelievable. Unbelievable. Would figure out a way to be like we got to make this happen. We gotta figure out a way to get. This story when we're at Michigan my senior year, December we played you guys know, we went to lake volleyball party that night. I didn't know this part of it. No. And the football players cornered us, and they like to kick the we had a scape out of the car like we had a run through the back door and get it van, and they put our heads down and drive away because they were gonna kick house this story. I've never heard that. No because I just told for the first time to volleyball party half the football team. Was there all the white guys? They wanted to kill her. That's I would actually not unique out. When you're on your school. You don't want like arguably at that time, you're probably one of the more famous faces of good. Do you don't? You're you're not at all. So I don't I don't hate him for that. Those are two very different teams to the five really the first of that era with the long shorts, and they're all basically inter-syndicate guys. It's a Bill if I was on your side Celtics to save. But. You didn't answer by the way. Most. You're the most hateful thing outside the other guys. Rettig Red Wings to Rennick is to hate grace and Allen, Chris no social media Rettig was aided without he wasn't as good as Rettig. It was all very ready to be hated at all. I can understand the grace that thing because he tripped Bill because I stepped on someone once. Take doing. Later legend we cover by Landau Sunday at noon school. Fido quarter covers parts radio we are live real cowboy ducks and Minneapolis. We'll be back at the top of the hour. Top of the hour. We are joined now by heart. Good, buddy. We came out here couple years ago for charity golf outing big guy. Cow Rudolph what's up, man? How are you doing? How are you heavy? Heavy. That's. A right of passage now. We're we're in Minnesota. Yeah. I feel like we're here every ten minutes lately. I think guys have car here. Don't you never even left? Yes. I know. I actually we talk about early if I called Minnesota I called Minnesota city. I saw. Yes. Trying to be nice. Every time we come you dot buys a car for your gun that is it. He said, I should spend. I don't get the fancy cars like you. So what you guys were. The cancer game today right on the other side. You know, I was coach Calhoun assistant coach we stalled the last minute of the game to win by one. Really? And I was his assistant coach last year. And we want to coach Collins. So like we had it was like really like to players on both teams that played college basketball there. Really good. And so we were up one we scored and then coach Collins like hold on. Let's take our time. You probably don't see that that much in like a charity cancer basketball coach Ryan like wind up to the Razzi media. Just like what are you doing he traveled? It was like they were actually taking your next changed. The rules like fouls the last minute. Stop the clock. We've got to do something. I like to Jimmy sees still coaching the win. Yeah. He's the pick Tom coat. What else do you plan this with is this well when we were here for the Super Bowl, I felt like you're running around your host city hosted e care different sport. So like, what do you plan this week? This one's way more enjoyable. I didn't lose the week before. Yeah. That's true, trashing fashion. Exactly. So this is fun. Like, I'm a diehard basketball fan. I'm a basketball player at heart. I made an awful decision twelve years ago and chose football over ball. Basketball. I was where gone week forest. I would have played for oh. All right. And then I always give Iowa the story that I tell my best ball career. I made Brad Stevens the coach that he is today. And here's the story. All right. So I committed the play football at Notre Dame. Brad recruited me to Butler, and he was always telling me, look you can play basketball at Butler and Tonio gates played basketball. And he played in the NFL. He's like you can do the same thing. You don't need to play college football come to Butler play basketball. So I got really close with Brad through creating process. Well, I choose football good Notre Dame. So he offers this like six foot tall skinny tennis player from Indianapolis Gordon Hayward. Yup. We're out. Well for them literally. Like was your scholarship? I think shelve amac was the other player in my clinic show. The Matt still up is. Yes. Or I want around and once going real slow to these caches Winston always moves slow, but always deliver it. Yeah. And like getting where he has to go. Are you going to go with Kirk to give Michigan state of pop up speech? Well, no, I'm not as name guy can't root for how do you think that public schools gonna go? It'll be intense. I gotta give her credit when he took over the speeches for us from Everson. We did win a few games. What about the what about the famous their their their prime time yet? Because the bears one of his good lines for this one. Yeah, we were playing the cardinals rookie quarterback. Josh rosen. Yep. Held appointments feature. That one exactly what he said I've been a rookie quarterback stuff with him. And I was like. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. You consider Michigan state arrival of Notre Dame. No, just miss. I know you say do we play all the time. Two million ride. They do I do. Coach Izzo and what they've done in Michigan state basketball. And all that. So we hate Notre Dame basketball. Dave why we could be like fuck lost half a million dollars. Also, coach grace stop wearing. Did. He stop wearing the fake fake turtleneck. Yeah. That's a good year. Exactly. Who do you think actually over the past decade been better Notre Dame Pasco football basketball, the footballs? Well, the play off and played in national champion. No, they lost the Kentucky in the elite. We football because football win to two. Yet play Clemson closer than Obama. We'll put that out. That's true. Yeah. Do you think he's gonna hurt you guys coming going forward? Like the the voters are now. Like notice goes on the feed in the next five years gonna be like this again. No because it's a money thing. Yeah. What we said. Notre Dame's Notre Dame is the premier brand and they'll always wanted. Yeah. That's why people always give us a hard time for not being in a conference like until what? College should be doing. Yeah. Have you read our greedy, spare play pool? No way Notre Dame. If they were in the big ten would ever make they lose like three games a season. I disagree. You look at the strike the schedule right of there at the top every year 'cause we play USC Stanford. Like we play teams from every. Yeah. You need to get rid of get rid of Maryland and Rutgers give me Notre Dame in Iowa you guys play like navy every year, maybe only service academy and max not anymore. There's no it's not it's not. Trip. They almost. Thousand Ohio State, so. Take aim. As a game that you're supposed to blow them out because they run the triple. Eight possessions on offense. No goes on. Through his. He wants to play navy. Do we talk about basketball? Forgive football. Do they win the file four? I'm going for junior. I don't I don't know either one of their names, but those two guard guy guy, and then other one Andrea hunter, not no. Guy. Yeah. They had another guard that had some huge buckets at the end of that Purdue game. Did you say you're playing some sort of basketball game? Yeah. The front Santa Sunday Sunday. Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal, they both invite that's Infinity. Cimpian vite, I told him. Yes. I did. We'd go to the game. Can I get some run in for me? Rudolph. I love you. You did not bite. You that game? You said are you in town? I'm in this game. I think you said Monday, no Sunday something about hooking up after by was like, hey, I got VIP you're in. Okay, perfect. Here's a good question. When is going to be the head coach Notre Dame. Over on twenty twenty two. I don't know that urban wants to take out. I'm saying. I'm saying no, I would look to see him there. Well, also you walk right? Kelly fired. No. Here's a question. So I I've talked to urban about that. Couple of charity golf tournaments. He doesn't wanna live in south. Then. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. He said to me if I live in Chicago and fly on a hill copter. Every day. I would take the hawk Harrelson later in south bend in and worked in Chicago. So you do the reverse it's not a far, no ninety minutes read urban Meyer Notre Dame. If you have any integrity left at Notre Dame. You don't want him. You don't want him. They hate everywhere. You know that I know it's weird. Brian are like women. Head coach doesn't always feel like everyone's like, we kinda don't want Brian Kelly. Well, it's the big game. It's the BS games. And now, it's like they got rid of you know. Willing ham like after a second. This guy's doing the same. So it's like Tommy would say killed a kit. Yeah. So it's like there's a lot of things going on at Notre Dame. You still talk Charlie was there. I do. I talked to Charlie a lot. Yeah. I would say every time you're here. I think Parcells sports of every position every sport. We're like tight end, you whatever reason we have tight end tight end. Gronk retired. So why figured you did? Where would you put his place in all time tight ends? I say he's second behind Tony just because Tony did it for seventeen years and he's like second every Satistics category. But gronk dominance over the last nine years is Barton. Good. So I was gonna say all right. I argued that way. But I think you are also answering it one game both of them at their prime who would out of those two who would you want as your tied who's playing quarterback? Great Tony played with a million quarterbacks in drunk Ted Brady his whole career. So is your answer is so yes, I'll take Tony. That's crazy. Crazy. Questioning where he doesn't wear your here. The water. All right. So here's another question about tight, ends rank yourself all time barstool tides number one. I gotta be your what about Bill but go on the field wrong. I think it'll war Dole's. I mean, he makes a joke that team form to play tied at he's like, I might just do it. We had the the lions guy Shuffler. No, no, no. We had on the air. Eric brown. Hebron. You're up there. You're probably right. I'd say under gronk in and also I can take. Although you're you're up you're under only two behind Olson in terms of like friend of the program because it doesn't do anything. No, not anymore used to be made more. Although I will say you're nicer because I've said that to Greg. I've been like Brock is better than you. And he gets very mad. He doesn't say things like Williams. Yeah. I would agree with that. We would all love to play with Tom. But it's I think if you ask someone they're like where do you rank and they don't say one. Yeah. I would be some wrong with them worried like the best like, of course, I'm gonna come up with every excuse why you wouldn't ranked me number one. So I don't have a million. So I don't mean to put you on the spot. What happened the Vikings underachieve? I mean, it was awful. We you little weird. Out when the bears beat you guys with like, no one urban. They still starters. They didn't need to win that game in week seventeen. They didn't if they didn't wanna play again. I wanted to play again, they would've should've we should've let you guys win and huge mistake. Yeah. You got you got. Guy. It's over already headed this one of my all time rants at the bears. I thought the pairs are one of the hottest teams, and they should have done anything the lose two guys. Because I thought you guys are tanking at the end of the season not tension about work playing well as aren't playing well, especially on offense as a player in the NFL and Lisa's a fan that doesn't seem like something push. You all sudden we're gonna turn it on exactly that sense walk room. Like, this is not going. Well, no, no question. We fired our offensive coordinator with three weeks left in the season to try to create a spark on offense in ZIM said he's can see things not going the right way. Like, we need to do something. But it was this. That was the story of our season like early in the year offense, we played really well defense special teams, not so and then by the million the defense's point really well off along often how much of that. Would you say was because of the year before getting Tennessee chipping chip game being you know, somewhat close to. Super bowl. They're having a little bit of a letdown from that coming back and be like, all right? We're good to go. Just roll out the helmet to do the same thing. It's hard to say that you just like you ever have that mentality. The the level of play is. So even all throughout the NFL. You know, you have to go out every week. Whether you're playing a team that's three and thirteen or planet team, Mr. T and three if you don't go play while you're going to lose. I mean it happens week in week out Buffalo Bills. Yeah. We we lost the buffalo. We were down seventeen nothing and ran twelve plays on offense. That was one of the biggest point spreads seventeen date upsets of all time. Yeah. If you're in like, a king of the hill league we killed you yet. Yeah. Everyone did that week. Now, get ready going into this summer. Do you guys funny because like the season ends January February whatever your season ends. And then it's like everyone goes their separate ways. Like, yeah. Like last week. We got together some guys in Atlanta and threw the ball around a little bit. But like it's so weird like from coaches players players other players. It's like we leave for three and a half months. And then we come back a week from Monday in it's like, we're just gone for the weekend. Like, nothing changed. And like we're back to work. Who are you guys? Do you stay in touch with Harrison Switzer good friend of mine, obviously, we went to school together three years at Notre Dame? We've been here seven years together. So Harrison's like one of my closest friends on the team. Yeah. It's an interesting. I mean, it's a business, obviously. And there's so much. Now, you've seen the all these prima Donna wide receivers. Get all the money forcing their way out of teens going teams for that. I mean as a player, I feel like I mean, I know you pretty well. I feel like winning is like a gigantic priority for you. What are your thoughts in with without putting the names, but some guys clearly? Don't care about they care about the contract. And they'll go wherever they seem like they've almost one they get it being part of a team that seems like in the NFL that would be something as struggled tough to deal with when winning is your priority. No question in. It's it's hard. I kinda tell me all the time. Like, I'm right on that fringe of like, I post every workout on social media like Instagram my life generation, and then like the guys that were in the league when I got in the league that really didn't give a shit and kinda just did their deal, and it was more about winning than how many Instagram followers you have. So I'm like I'm like right on that fringe of generation yet. You would. So it is hard for me. Like when I see guys like that's more important to them than winning games on Sundays because that's all I really care about. How hard is that mix that with those guys don't give shit about social media? And then like that it is. I mean people time to like. People whether it's people I work with marketing or PR, they're like, you know, you'd be really cool shit. Like, why don't you post it? Why don't you share? It's like, I don't know. Like, I forget like I'm just in joying what I'm doing. And. Yeah. Like other people you see younger guys in the league like they don't leave without their cell phone out like on selfie mode like talking recorded. It's two different generations guys chat about like what else going on with free agency. How much you guys go back and forth. Like, you see this guy is a lot of that the prowls as an example. I mean, there's definitely charter. They went the Browns historically have now assembled one of the most talented teams in the NFL. So it'll be interesting. I heard like a ten second clip of it on Twitter. And then I saw Keenan Allen like he took up once. It was trash like he's like from friend of friendly. If you put out a vet help them like I'm gonna tell you what good I tell you. It's good. If it's not lady on ask everyone for the feedback. They're like he's like fire. Trash trash text me that. Maybe the real. Yeah. Zach Lowe, I will say even with you're talking about balancing social private from. When we first met you ten and I were talking about this. You're a lot more candid like a lot more open a grant. I don't think the first time you came on the bus. You really knew who we were. I told you. School coach and English teacher was obsessed with you guys. Right. I don't read or listen to podcasts all that much. And then I got under see you guys. And it was like, oh, I had no idea. I was just going on a bus, and like we're going to interview. And now, we're like best friends your. With the skyline. I'm supposed to skyline. So we've got two guys sometimes been it's terribly. He didn't go with someone from Cincinnati. It doesn't matter the orders saving apd on our teacher Welker. He's from Cincinnati took us there. I can't believe people eat that like for lunch every day. Every day would be aggressive yet. Like once a week. If I go home, I have to have it. I won't leave. I won't leave the stock stock grow up on the food. I guess kinda stuck. Convinced everyone that it's like real. Then anyone else comes what world everyone talks about it? Yeah. Well, talk about tonight. All right. Not much else to talk about. The weekend. You got like you're gonna go crazy this weekend salt? I I told you early. I'm inside of me is like a basketball player played a little bit in high school. But so this is so much fun for me to have the final here. Get the coach next to Jim Calhoun charity game get the play maturity game. I just judged Hightower. I. We'll see how the game go. You're I'm gonna threes. Weren't some of the other big names in it? Spice Adams bears. Yeah. So I feel like impo me the whole time. Yeah. He'll court press on you the round mound to read. It is a very very fine line to walk in charity pass on how hard you go. And how casual you are. And you'd better be really fucking good. If you go heart and make it look not hard. So here in Minnesota. Everyone's always heard that I was such a great basketball player and high school so long. Now, aren't we finally get to see him play basketball? What's he got? So like I said I play on shooting a lot of threes. Hopefully, I will and he's been shooting recently. No we had to. Can get some shots. We had that very situation at our office Kay Marco. Yup. All k- Marco this guy. Great basketball. We've finally saw was horrible. He hasn't been the same since I played pick up with my teammates so guys in the locker room. But I'm saying too low you to get like a thousand jumpers. Yeah. You. In your hands. I may have taken a ball from the stadium. Yeah. Final four baby. Yes. Now, I'll be laying in bed tonight. You know? Yes. Yeah. A lot of pressure on that. We might have to come in heckle you a little bit. Are you guys can be cheering section? We don't gotta heck we'll have we heard you really good a lot pressure. I would always in that situation. You're in a note, we're making this like turning us into a big deal this deal for me like for you. I am a basketball player. I'm so excited to play this game on so that your shots in airball. Yeah. People are going to say. Time. Odds is not going to be an airball Brad Stevens reputations. On a lot of pressure. I made him. Wait to seal is now coaches at O'Malley shooting Bray, Gordon Hayward signed a entre hand NBA. Threes. Are you like a soft layer floating on the paint? You're scared of the pain. 'cause you see me now in high school. I was tightened play like two hundred and fifteen pounds. Like, I played the three that's still pretty fucking bake. Cincinnati. Center. Aren't we had like two guys that were like six six six seven t twenty. I was not going to say what seven us. Twenty. But that's. Sixty sounds like you were soft player. Sounds like when you're you. Three way. Listen to the paint. Listen, I just hope you make your first three. That's all I'm going to say because if you going from being an airball to making it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you miss up, I three the boot words are coming out all fire up another. What I would do in your situation. But you're obviously way mortalities the cherry Seinfeld. I choose not to run let like the rumors continue. But never let him. See you add actually nothing to gain Sunday in everything. Light it up becomes legendary. But I hope. What people already think whereas you do nothing. You don't I ever will be like, oh, man. He's a monster. Then if you hit the three what we can do that too. Herself now everywhere later are going to the rim. Yeah. Fast-break who I'm talking about in the set one. You got it this change from an airball three. So you're going to the point. Yeah. All right, Colorado, big type friend of the program. We appreciate you coming on good. Luck of the game. No pranks zero pressure on Russia. Russia going down. You have to be at noon on Sunday at Saint Thomas. We should spider make bricks make. We're going to. Ready alive for Calvo Jax? Thank you, get a call route off our buddy Powell, I'm sure we'll see you again like two weeks. This always happen. Sounds makes hit frankly back at a couple.

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Joe Lo Truglio

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

1:04:13 hr | 1 year ago

Joe Lo Truglio

"You're listening to inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. I folks our Aria. What's going on? Holy Crap man help. Everybody had a good weekend. Nice and long would you. Last weekend I was sick so I couldn't really do y-yeah that's man. You feel better now. I feel you you kind of like a bit of a smacked asked when you came in. 'cause you're wearing a you know it's it's around Halloween now so it's the you have you wearing the it. The Penny wise cost him. I was pennywise recently recently in a sketch on Youtube Scan Youtube would you can check it out work. You'RE GONNA check that out on the warp zone YouTube channel. Check that out you'll check out Ryan. He's penny wise and he had the word these contacts. He'd never worn them. Hey context I don't know how you wearing them now and I'm still not used to them. You know a lot of stuff going on You know the album's been out for about and I don't know about a month maybe and That's really about it man in love with Michael Rosenbaum. Chris Ullivan as you know. Is Airing every Monday. So make sure you subscribing writer review We need you today on the podcast. We have drill trivial If you don't know Joe Brooklyn nine nine. He's amazing amazing. He's hilarious. I've known him for a long time. There's a couple of moments here in this podcast that I know I was transfixed on what he was saying. And so so as Ryan it was just really powerful it was it was simple. Powerful was applicable to a lot of things. Yeah it was. It was apple to ally. It doesn't doesn't matter if you're an actor would ever what he says like sometimes we're jealous of this whether it's a neighbor or you're on a you know I'm jealous because You know my buddy DAX has way more followers and Dallas else. He's not good. Gosh compare yourself to others. And he has something really to say about that and it. It's really. It's really a pretty profound today. It's pretty interesting interesting. The first thing that he's going to get a colonoscopy tomorrow so you're hearing him the day before where he has to not eat anything and you can tell he's going a little stir crazy but You know you've seen him on the state if you If you're old enough back in TV years ago Reno nine one one so many things you've seen him in everything super bad This is one of my favorite guests. I say I say that a lot but really I've known this guy a long time and I just love him and admit I miss him and it was good having them in here. I think you're going to really you dig. So let's get in side of Joe Truly. Oh it's my pawn. You're listening to inside of you with with Michael Rose inside of you with Michael. Rosenbaum was not recorded in from the live studio audience. I didn't know what the Hell I was doing in the beginning. I was convinced that I should podcast some. Because you've got a good voice. You Know People Apple. Yeah have a podcast. So I didn't WanNa do it and then I did at thinking. Okay maybe I can make some money and then I realized wow. It's not easy to make money in the podcast. Hey everybody it has a p- yeah what happened was I probably would acquit. But one day I just started become really vulnerable really really. It was therapy for me because I realized way I was living was not honest. I mean I think everybody thought. Oh He's gotTa Shit Together. He organizes everything. Yeah he was a hit show. He's always working. He's doing this. God the guys always. He's so have well. I'll say this I'll say that already. You're an affable guy friendly guy you're warm guy and he loved conversation and you know Oh people I mean. That's those are the type of people that should be having a podcast. You're also generous in curious to other qualities. Yeah four podcast. So here's C.. On your ninety. Hey whatever whatever episode thank you Joe True Glenn But it became vulnerable. It became like I felt like I had purpose. That's why I I do. I do it because I really love to talk to people and find out how they get through they face adversity. How did they get through it right today? Do what makes them tick. You know people. uh-huh what what are you doing now. All you're doing Brooklyn nine nine. Oh you're a big star but they don't know your journey and I sort of know your journey. Sure I know this shit that you went through. Well I'll say I'll say this I said I do a lot of podcast and get self conscious about it but I also like to see my friends and I haven't seen you in a while and isn't that how funny I find. This goes back to the guys at the state and everything you grow up get older they have kids. You have a family or like how can see more of them. How can I see my friends? What have they have a a podcast or we work together and suddenly I what he them I just meet them? Jerry's Elliott evaluate. Don't if if I don't show up I don't get paid and I have to see that. Let's hope they're a guest star on Brooklyn nine nine. It's so convenient for me. What am I going to do you text email? GimMe a break. Only way I was able to see. You haven't seen you in a while. I was excited about coming here. You know maller journey. Map allergist allergist text me like five minutes before you showed up our good friend Matthew Ballard. I went to college with them. We got naked at college. We did the cherry run. Ballard is now a family man. He's he's doing really well is doing something. Rob mcelhinney always sunny. Great Guy that everybody loves in you guys. Always all the guys from the state showalter and Marino. Oh hold me everybody. Always Michael Ian Black guys and I noticed like about he became and I knew you guys all new money didn't did you through Ballard. I don't really know I think I knew you. I maybe I think you did and remind me if I'm wrong it was it's through. MTV MTV or was it even before MTV it was around there were you guys were doing the state with guys out there listening. Don't know who the state was look. Look up some old videos find it because it really all these guys careers like David Wayne. Michael showalter that they've gone on what American tonight and Tom Marino Kerri Kenney. You don't know anything. I don't know those names. Look them up. Look those names up. And you're like holy crap. That guy's hilarious. This guy's hilarious. Oh my God look what he did. These guys is all started together. They met at New York University University. Some of US film somewhere in trauma but now we old Jose Trauma I meant to say drama. But maybe I'll tell you from Queens right. That's why you trauma. Well thinking about trauma. Can I tell you I tell tell you is on the comedy someday tram this. I'm thinking about trauma right now because this is this is why it's amazing that I'm doing this podcast inside tomorrow. I'm getting colonoscopy today. I'm in prep. I can't even tomorrow Dr Schwartz Yours. That's right I get to do people come at me now. Have you done that yet. Here's it's also fun. It's I guess it's because of our age we just talked about our age but you know the the age just went down. I'm two years ago. I went in to gastroenterologist. I can't bounce right along. Just say this guy. I want him because my buddy Harland Williams Harlan. Yeah Harlan's the if you guys don't always he's been on the the dumb and dumber go. Hey cash drinking out of semi GRANDPA's cough Meta sorry bud. So he said as I went to the guy got a colonoscopy. She really do it. I was worried and checked out for polyps and stuff. I didn't have anything I'm playing. You should probably get has the peace of mind. I went to see this ass doctor. I sat down with him and he looked at me. 'cause you know on how old are you and at the time I was like forty four because yeah most guys. Don't get this 'til fifty unless there's some things going on. Yeah and then all of a sudden I read it in men's journal or something like a year ago. They've knocked down the age to forty five. That's now I'm older than that age. Yeah so now now. I'M GONNA go get a colonoscopy. There's a few of my friends that want to go get it. We might want to document it. You know go together. Yeah they take I I don't know I don't know if you know. They say the worst part is the night before when you're just unloading unleashing yet that's tonight for me. That's I mean that's a night. Yes so what do you have to do by the way. This is good for you guys to hear because it's important so many listeners are of this age. I'm sure well this is health regardless of husband boyfriend or you're sure whatever whatever it is this. Is Joe Ever Lean tomorrow. What are you doing tonight to prepare? What are you doing today? Well today. A clear liquid diet guys. I didn't know breakfast. Water can have coffee tea. The instruction booklet says nothing red or purple. Now do I drink kool-aid no. I know maybe some of you out there would or popsicles. Do I have a lot of red or purple popsicles during the day. I don't have any. I can't remember the last time I had one of those. I certainly can't have them today. Your fluids clear fluids chicken broth be bullion breath. How hungry are you right now? Not that hungry. I don't eat breakfast that much anyway. But I'm glad this this podcast wasn't like four. That would have been. I would have been angry. It's going to be tough later from. I'm glad we got your what am I. And when I go to my therapies estimate five. That'll be interesting right before I want anything to eat you still what's still no I just I. I just kind of started a few months ago marital problems. It's everything your whole life. Yeah it's everything. Isn't it just jumping. Their marital royal issues says that I don't know so anyway. That's happening tomorrow. So tonight all fluids you know Hey table to sleep you wake up all you have to take liquid stuff like you know right before you go to four hours before you go to bed. What is that? I don't know but from what I hear from my friends that have done it. It just tastes terrible and it just makes shit. I mean that's clears. Is it out. There is out the pipes so I kind of have to stay endorse. Did People Prepare Brian. You're laughing is just one of the funny it. It's funny. This is Ryan by the way my engineer Ryan. Now it's funny like you have to stay. You can't really go anywhere and a friend of mine just was going to have a screening tonight and I'm like I wanna go and he's like actually you know we may have some pretty tight you you really WanNa go. I'm really do but it might be good that I don't because dot dot dot so yeah yeah. There's a lot of reasons one. I have to have the very back row. I'll one if you can't get that seat on coming. Yeah yeah or going. Oh that's right. That's important I I didn't. I didn't want to put that pressure on him Ryan's too young Ryan here is how old are you thirty one thirty one this right now. Right some time you get prostate exams Ryan. No have you ever had a finger in your buns. Well that's different. You have had that. No you haven't have you Joe. Sure I've only had one in my life and and I had this conversation with a lot of people because a lot of guys will tell me they have fingers in the prostate prostate exams. And I go no no. My doctor says it's unnecessary. Now you can just do a blood test check ups senior fine. But I'm hearing back and forth things like that so I actually went to my doctor. I said look I'm a little like I don't know sensitive about this again. Not put a finger in my ass. Yeah twenty years. I've known I don't I. We've we've known each other a long time. How come no finger? And then he goes the one not if I don't if really don't I think I need one even if you don't need it that bad I had one right before I had back surgery once and there was no need because I'm having back surgery. Not Ask surgery right so the guy says Mister Rosenbaum will get you know this protocol so if you could bend ova. I want you to know that. Don't be embarrassed. Some men some men not all men but they occasionally only Jackie late and I told him if this happens. I'm going to jump eight stores to my dad. Thought this window of shame. Shame embarrassed. Could you imagine you're you're there as a straight guy gay guy and this guy puts a finger in your load in this hospital floor. It'd be tough. It's just not personal. It's not a personal intimate moment. Then WanNa have that you want to remember really you know. Yeah you want something with a little bit more ambience to tomorrow tomorrow do they. Did they wake up in time to procedure feature. I think it's around one and we're going to beat around twelve thirty. I'm going under the gas the gas or can the short. You wonder you gas asked where you could take where you can take the heavy duty drugs. You don't like that. Well you know. It's not that but I'm told that where I was warned that you might not feel pain but feel something and I don't WanNa feel anything I don't need to remember this just like going there. Tell me what's what's up and I'll wake up and then you tell tell me and so I'm going to go with the anesthesia but you're going to anesthesia. So you can go in a seizure or gas. We don't know the gasping the anesthesia or like like got like opioids like j just like intervening wannabe out. I WANNA be out. I WANNA wake up and go. You weren't in my ass. Yeah I don't think you were. You can't prove it. Yeah Yeah there's equally show pictures. No Oh there they are. Yeah you were there okay fine you nervous a little bit. I SHOULDN'T BE I. I never used to be nervous about stuff like this. And I'm not really very nervous but had surgery before like adenoids out tonsils kid and it needles. Don't scare me but I don't know if it's you get older you have more to lose in your enjoying life more kid a Kid Eli aligned after. Eli Manning Stop It. No you're jets fan. I am Yes. It's the one that even talk about that right now. I almost almost. We almost named his Middle Name jet. Because of that. Thank God we didn't would just would well. You could've told people was after a wing Song Tom. Well the thing will wing some jet that Oh okay. Sure that's true. Yeah well you know. We decided that at the end of the day. When I hear the name ally I'll probably still think of my kid and not Eli Manning see before the kid comes here? Eli Eli Manning. But now that he lives here. I'm going to figure my son right so that was quickly. That fear was quickly washed away right all right look. We've talked about ask for the first ten the minutes of the show. I mean I've known you for a long time. We talk about the state. I remember those days when you were always so humble so fun fun to be around. I just felt comfortable around. You just a genuine. You've always been so genuine and I said Yeah I always thought I want that. I've got to keep you know nice doing well. Well thank you. Are you just genuinely good dude. And you're so funny and I remember watching the state and going God. Yeah this guy so funny you just gotTa in. I remember you struggle. We all struggle but like for years right your way people think Oh Brooklyn nine nine. He did reno nine Not Reno nine one. Yeah you know Kinda hard to say Reno nine one one Brooklyn nine nine. I play a lot. I played a lot of cops one. That's really nice of you to say a Mike and it's the you know the struggles real for a lot of people for many of US actors but I try to surround myself with good people I it was the first step and try not to take too seriously but you know it was nice to have the success. I had but you know there's some bitterness is there was some comparing myself and some jealousies along the way that you have to kind of you know. Eat Up you know. Did you ever resent like in the beginning going thinking you know one of your buddies your peers. I think we've all gone through doing so whilst why can't you just give me a lift like Kenny. Just fucking drop me off the the twenty third and fourth you know. Give me a ride. GimMe just Gimme a lift a nice series. Something right I mean. There's there's no way like I have friends that you know. When I was in Smallville or pastor I was filming in Canada so they hire all Canadian locals and you know? Sometimes I'd have people audition or something. I didn't have that choice. Like it's not like you know in pastor finally was a thing where I was an executive producers like hey I want my friend whoever over to come out I want my friend Troy to do this. I WANNA Roger to come. I want to if there's a role I want them even if it's not that big I want them to be a part of that. I would do if I ever had if I was ever creator our producer of a show. I mean these are things I'm trying to do But that's that's when you give back you know I. I think that's great that you did that. You have to do that. Yeah but I haven't been I've been creator of things that have an aired so or have not even been shot just I sold something so that's when I did my movie. Yeah I remember. I directed this movie back in the day and it was was just like a Raunchy lowbrow comedy and I was like Ballard get you know. You're out Saraj flying out Josefina. You're flying out Whatever I can do my friend? Jay Ferguson's Madail male. He already had a career. But I'm like please do this role anybody any of my friends. I just wanted to be satisfying. Isn't it it's like we years five years ago. Me and Michael Ian Black created this show called beef which was like judge. Judy meets like the Sopranos. And the bid is it takes place at like butcher shop and And you know the the A guy Forgetting carry criminal only played them would settle these neighborhood. Skirmishes yeah one over with a nice craft. Beer over WOULDA Janis like Super Bowl Party and then you know. He wouldn't let me have that. He hit the beer and we had a drink is like bud light shit feel then. He kept craft beer. You know stuff like that right and so and I invite Bauer did some and a lot of my friends that are so good so talented but just haven't gotten that chance yet. If felt awesome like in in and I feel that's important. I think you've gotta look out. I think I think it is important. It's also hard when you don't have a lot of the you know especially like when I was in small I had a lot of success. Yes I just remember going. I know what they want. They want these pretty boys pretty girls show and they have to be Canadian. Can't afford it because you know the cheap and they you know unless it was like it was like you know. And you're like you're GONNA show dude. Why can't you get me on Smallville? It's like if you look at it. Everybody was young long except for me. Yeah like everybody young. And there's my dad Lionel Luther and yeah but there was a lot I could do. I did try. You weren't a producer where you know wasn't the producer you didn't have that level a lot of it. Is this kind of misunderstanding of how the business works and how the power structure works hierarchy and like. Oh you're on Brooklyn and I just like put me on. I'm like believing how I mentioned you to Joel. Best Rep who was fantastic casio either I have not mentioned mentioned you. I thought you were told you that you asked me that. Sorry Joe Find All right Rosie. I'll talk to her unbelievable. How does he do it do it? But Yeah but you have to go through certain channels and I do I do and by the wager. WanNa come on the show would come on Brooklyn you mean a hit. Show that you're on that so do it yeah. Some people are very selective live in I am. I am selected in terms of. I just don't like a lot of people go. Why are you doing I go? You know what I just WanNa do my own stuff unless it's obviously if it's something that I just you know Jensen apples. He's the lead on supernatural. Okay and he emailed me last night. He's like dude. Call Your fucking agent and get on supernatural last season and I might and it's so nice because this is a huge huge phone Inc. million people and I'm like you know in my head I'm like I I love Jensen and I love the show. I Love Supernatural Shit and I love the fans and the fans are so I'm like you know if it's the right thing I would do it of course. Are you kidding me lucky but yes we'd be lucky to have so. Do Phone your name out to be kidding me. I'd love it even if it was like something fun and quick. I don't give a shit I don't let me go with that stuff. Just becoming funny egos are tough to keep in check. Aren't they did. I've been learning learning about ego. I've learned I've really you know I've talked about this but you don't know this but I. I went off to a wellness center for three weeks. So I listened to some of your All the peripherally but not a lot. We were talking about meditation. I just started that a few months ago as well do it every day. I do it every day. I'm for ten minutes I'LL I'll I've missed you know. Sometimes I miss a day or two but it's been It's been very very helpful. How do you feel when you miss a day? guilty. Yeah isn't that something. Like a routine thing. I try to express it to people. But if you're doing something everybody does governor drink four cups of coffee. Oh I wake up. I had a cigarette cigarette oil. Wake up I do this. I go now imagine that you feel like you have to do that. Imagine you you break that routine. You don't have that you know you could have. It takes twenty minutes imagine a new habit And now you're going that's what happens. I hate meditation. I hate meditation and then two weeks and I'm like have to keep doing that and now it's Today's ninety six days straight I wake up and I do twenty eight minutes and I cannot miss her. I feel like a failure and that's a very routine now even if people oh. I don't know how my mind's racing motherfucker look at me. Twenty seven because that that was an intimidating thing for me starting meditation as well. Because like how do you meditate. What era in San City? Everything's GonNa be quiet. No and then. I was working with Zappa Napa listening to this APP. You'RE GONNA say you're listening to ZAP Galifianakis trauma fanaticism meditation tape and. It's it's wonderful. It's wonderful I want. I'm going to finish gotTA finish but I really want to do. He knows this. I WanNa do a meditation APP. I WanNa do my voice choice. Yeah like because what I'm thinking. Yeah like I it would be shit like this. Joe I WANNA hear yours to mine would be like all right. Listen if you're like like me you know your mind is going nuts right now. I should take a piss before this thing. I should probably I don't know wash my face. Ace I should brush my teeth my practice up at right now but listen. Listen nothing matters triton and the ones smelling your breath I want you to just my nose is a little. It's not clear. So that's why you're hearing that that's a truck in the distance. Listen to that I was thinking those things I know I know that what would yours be I do well. I think they're all it's always deep right but it would be. 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You're doing the state I mean this is MTV back in what year this was ninety ninety to ninety two. We did a show called. You wrote it you watch it which we were reenacting letters about From from fans and we were doing that show that was show we one of the directors actors on there And then that was ninety two losing track. I think ninety three. It's when we started the state. Yeah because I think I did the pilot for that show that never made it like a ninety five or ninety six. That's probably around the tonight five. We did the. CBS disaster the sea when we jumped to the network. And then that was that was like Doc Tober ninety five so the MTV show is like before then so what was it like. I mean you get near University of meeting all these guys he's big personalities were was there an immediate attraction. Immediate love between all of you where you were just like you all each other on you liked everybody. Yeah there there was at a we. We took each other pretty quickly and I don't know it's one of those things where you you never know why this group of people got together. I think we are all very smart. Ambitious extremely talented. Those guys are are incredibly talented. And and so I feel like that you know people like that attract each other and there was safety in numbers. There's like okay. What if we came up with you know at the group where we all perform in right and so it happened pretty quickly in terms of US getting along of course as you move on there's dysfunction in any big group gruppen? Those dynamics start to particular and and everyone sees what annoys each other about each other. And so who is a leader. Though was their leader was was a David. Wang was the our friend Todd Holler back founded. The group Todd Hall was in a sketch group with David Wayne and Mo Willems who Mo Willems Mo Williams is a an incredible and very popular Children's book author And he had founded this Sketch group called the Sterile Yak the tot holiday David Wayne were in todd. Broke off from that informed A group called the new group which ended up become the state. So that was that's all at Nyu now who did you honestly in the beginning when you first were there and like this guy is the funniest who did you look up to where you're like. Oh I mean not to say look this is events so it's not like you're saying putting throwing any wasn't that your God this guy is going to be a star. Wow can was like. Ken Made Me Laugh Very Hard Marino. Tom Lennon was wicked. Smart and funny Although it's funny Tomlin and we talk about this so I don't feel bad sharing this like I didn't like Tom when I first met him. Tom was very tom had it. Tom Thomson very like arrogant to me. And standoffish And we ended up going in for this student film film directed by Adam Marcus who did one of the Jason Movies and we were in the audition and we just hit it off. We had a great red addition. We booked this student foam. And we've been close ever since I love that man. He's generous it but it's interesting how you meet somebody and like you. Don't take it to them immediately. And then they become really really close. You have friends like that. Yeah I also think it's. It's easy for people I don't know how many times someone is said Either about me or about a friend of mine or somebody I know or an actor in now. I've learned not to listen to like. Yeah my friend Joan. Her friend John John Friend. Jim said that Dax Shepard was not really nice and I'm like Why I'm by the way this isn't a true story? This is not a truce now. It's not a true story but like you know and Like why oh. I don't know. She said she went up to him to get a picture. And you don't want to take a picture I'm like do. Do you think maybe he might have had been having a bad day. You think maybe he was in a rush was he. Eating was the hour. I'm a good judge of character. I think that's a good trade of my for the most part. I mean people like this. The person's good I I trust them. They seem like genuine person. I I my friends are better than me. Yeah I was part But I give people the benefit of they say so and so I go you know. That's well that's why you have so many friends I mean you what's amazing about you rosie is that I. I want your Halloween Party. I don't know when it was a few years ago probably October over. It was it last year I was at the end. Mothers ecological another terrific character. We were a bunch of boneheads showing up like not in costume. Everyone is in costume. And so I think I wore like a quint shirt or some josh shirt. Anyway you have so many people that love you. You should know that you should know that because it's it's important. It's easy to forget things like that. especially when you're feeling alone or out of it not sink not feeling like you belong. I went down like all these guys. Rosie that's amazing and it's true and I and I was happy to be there and be invited and that I also knew you so it just hold onto that known that because that's that's an important thing to remember when you you when you have those days where you like talking about doing it again but you know all this. I want to say first of all I Jimmy. Thank you for that. I mean it's incredibly kind of you and I appreciate did that the problem my mind. It's not that I don't believe you. It's not that I don't think they love me. My friends love me. It's this dichotomy of of yeah of course but then I'm always organizing stuff and doing fun things and doing this and having Thanksgiving and having a Halloween party and doing what. If I just didn't do that anymore with these still they still want to give a shit about me and I I would hope the answer is yes some of them. I'm just like sometimes I I worry I go God you're such a helper such a people pleaser. You're such a like I want to be liked and it's you know it's like dude true but like you don't don't you have your family. You have your job you have your kid. You don't go. Hey I'm GonNa do this an invite all these people all the time and I am getting better at it and I've been working on myself but you know no and I genuinely think people care about me. Yeah I do. It's not about. That's not an issue for me to allow people in. I think I think I just you know I've talked about this some billion times but you know getting it at a young age getting kitty on life and you walk around life you know like I don't know if I've ever been really felt love that I was really like few people. I feel that way but I can relate to that. I related that yeah I can relate to that in that. There are many times when I'm in a room and I'm like uh-huh what the hell am I doing here with. All these amazing people like what what what's that about. I should not be here and I've realized that you're never in a room. You're not supposed to be if you're in the room you deserve to be in the room period. So that's helped me just take could step back. Take a step back Trauma Abbott. What else is APP? It's this is what happens when you prepped for colonoscopy protein. What's in your mind right now? You're begging you to get rid of Shit yes but like you have to step back and remember that the you're there for a reason to to just accept it just own it you know and that's helped me. I hear your point about having a family right if I had this amazing place that you have. I've with all these incredible things that inspire you in it. That's wonderful and yet you're like well. What what else is there? What what about the family all that stuff? I could understand where your where your head might start to spin and be like what happens if I don't though the parties is it. Just do I turn to Howard Hughes or or whatever it is you know what I mean but you won't you won't you won't. There's too many you you're a you're a people. Gather you have an energy to you that just people I like it. So don't sweat it. Well I thank you my friend. Yeah Man I find but look back to you back to me as I view it is inside of me. What else we haven't talked about? We talked about Brooklyn while. I WanNa talk about Brooklyn but you know that whole journey from going from the state into this like starring on things doing things you're always like going. Hey I remember playing poker with you. I've never been at bars with you and it's just like hey joe I might do this independent thing. I don't know pain. I remember remember going up to quadruple. BANGERS called is four. You know you're staying in this thing. What were one of those little private urinals? Yeah those and you were. I just like doing this little bit. Part I've waited fourteen hours I haven't shot yet and I can just tell like you didn't you didn't show up. I knew it like you're like I just I just want something to hit. Yeah you you know I just WANNA be able to go on set every day. Yeah and be have a purpose. Say I'm here to do my part and work. You wanted to war. You're starting your star. This is a very interesting part of the conversation. Were segue into now because what you're talking about is accepting when your time is right. I had a longtime accepting when my time. It's GonNa be many actors. Go through that mark. Kevin Jackson just did a podcast with Brooklyn nine. And we're talking about Brooklyn nine in that. I almost didn't go in for Brooklyn Nine. I almost didn't get Brooklyn nine nine because I'd gone in. I put myself on tape for Allison Jones. Then they wanted me to come back in for a callback or session at that point of his during a very kind of dark time in my career in my head about my career like you know what I've done survey I've done all these like little movies. I've seen enough like like everyone knows what I can do. Like cast me cast me but like I'm tired of it. Who's really the EGO was overwhelming? Swallow me up and I almost didn't go and if I didn't go I would not be on the show. Clearly more importantly the lesson learned. Is that no one knows you anything. And if if you're doing a job because you're expecting to get another job you gotta find what you like about it. I know that's you hear it all the time you find the join. What what you do? But you'll get you realize that's really the truth because it put me in such a a mood of Eldest and people know what I can do. Just give it to semi give it to me entitlement. That really starts to wear you down and it starts to infiltrate you in a in in negative ways and you don't enjoy we around. I remember member. Ken Marino is such a great guy. His wife Erika Young wrote this really funny visuals. Here's burning love that. Ken was in so dominy. Funny people were in that shooting that and I was just in a terrible mood and can bring me a set like while we're shooting you know I didn't know disruption during the set but between takes I was just like not at the greatest of moods and he's like what he's like man to can. I love you I love this. This is so funny like I just couldn't be doing this. Like web shows like it was really narrow minded own grateful type of stuff and he her as a friend and he related and here I am talking. There's someone that also hadn't got his big break cans amazing and seeing all this stuff but also hadn't gotten his break and you realize you just end up sounding like a complete asshole asshole because you can't see your path you can't see when is your time and it took me a while and if I if I had kept in that kind of mode well then I don't get Brooklyn nine nine and Brooklyn nine nine has given me a gift that is above and beyond. I mean I have a new family. I've gone through life. Changes changes several of US have gotten married. Several of US have gotten had kids including myself if I had like fuck it. I'm not going in. That is not open to me anymore. That's not here. And that's a very humbling place to be when you're like Now I'm getting it the struggles real even after. You think you've made the big time not the big time at like Super Bad. It's super bad them like that movie was huge. I'm like oh well here. We go the only matter of time now sir getting the calls here they come. They don't come. You still have to go in you all that stuff so you just have to keep it in check because no-one owes you anything no is going to give you the money for the movie movie. No one's going to write the script for you. No one's going to like create the ideal part for you. You find it you get it or just file or if you don't know how how to get it. Follow things that are coming at you are opening up to you and maybe that will lead you there. There was there was a lot of that stuff going on for me about seven years years ago. I don't think I've ever listen that hard in my life Ryan I noticed you too. I noticed energy shift. What you just said it was worth the whole podcast and worth it to me? And I know worth it to Ryan because that Shit right there is is so vital and whether or not it's it's whether you're now you're not or you're right when your ego gets gets in the way the ego my fucking eagles got in the way of so many things where I'm like even on his all even talk about this podcast like now in the beginning of like. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't sound the good i. Don't we hear my voice. I never listened to my voice but I've gotten so many responses and people's lives have changed and it gives me purpose and I love it. DAX Get so many more listeners than I do I start comparing comparing you start comparing her since does he well. He's a bigger star than you. That's why gets bigger listeners. I know but he got the idea from my pocket he also had but so but he's great and for some reason he's got a bigger audience than you. So what and then I'm like I know I love I love me deserves I love DAX is one of my best friends but I guess it's kind of jealous. I'm like God it is. I'm GONNA be honest. I I wish I got. I love my podcast. I think I'd do a really good job. I think people enjoy it. I want more listeners to the listeners. The lesson I learned was play as soon as you realize that there's abundance you'll be all right with that. There's room really for everybody. Everybody so dax absolutely deserves serves that course that podcast. He's great at it and you're great at this so there's just room for everybody. I mean. That's a big lesson borrow from him. Sure can I just you say dad. Just give me five percent of your audience. Five percent of DAX's audience come over here come on over because by the way. My fans are so loyal in there. The listeners listeners are so low and Jen from legendary film. So I met with about some projects weeks ago. I got an email from her today. Saying I love the podcast cows and listen to it. It's so good and I'm like Oh my God so people are listening and I love it. I'M NOT GONNA stop. I don't care if it's like not as long as one person's listening whoever you more out there I really loved doing it so whether I make a lot of money or no money or whatever. I'm going to continue to do this because I really love talking to people and you could tell you could tell. Oh I just like it. I'd like to do this. My whole life. How great is it to you know to have an intimate conversation with interesting people? Some which have a history like myself others. He met for the first time. It's the best you says. Something remind me of another story about comparison and jealousy. It's I guess ninety. Oh No it's actually far than that's two thousand. The state is long done. I've been doing like commercials here and there. You know maybe an independent film here some voice over nothing very exciting And yet I see all my state compatriots kind of doing their working working. Yeah I get this audition for a movie. It's wings beer league. I am in the audition. The caching director and I I won't name name says okay. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA slate and then we're going to You insulate your name. I'm going to ask you some questions. And then we're going to go into the disdain by the way. Don't there's no improving. They really stick to the script. I'm like all right sure so Hi Joe Trillo. Yeah Joe and so you were a member of the state member states comedy met at Nyu and so so many of your compatriots are like working at Reno nine one one and some did and everyone seems to be like working except for you. The slater twenty by the way the cameras on me. I was that all about. I'm like well you know I'm just trying to do nothing. You know literally inside them like Brady. I'm a furious like this ego and the comparison is just coming out in full force because this question and I just decided well you know I'm just doing my thing And in my head I decided. Oh I'm gonNA be Improv now. I don't there's no sticking to the script now I ended up booking the part and it was it was. It was a really good feeling knowing that. When you're up against it and the throw an egg on your face and they're just really kind of beating just stand up? Come come come out now in her defense. I don't think she meant to make me feel that way. I don't know she just wasn't a good interview. I don't think she was a good interviewer and I were very aware of the terrible insecurities of actors the level of comparison. That goes on with us every every minute of the day. I don't I don't I don't you know I'm painting her as a terrible person. She's not I'm sure but that was a terrible moment for me That I came out and I rose out of the ashes Phoenix the Phoenix. Do you think that. Do you think doctors look at other doctors and go. I'm I'm just as good of a doctor. A similar don't have as many patients. How how much is he making? I'm like I went to any heart. Surgery did rendezvous. I want the University of Pittsburgh. Yeah I mean I went to Saint. John's I mean I think everybody does it though don't they. Yeah I think every everybody whether you're driving a ups truck doc. Same thing it's like he's making more than me. I bust my ass. They work twice as hard as he is. Comparison Jealousy. They're just monsters man but you know what look I still get it about just able to be like. That's what I'm feeling now. You still get it right you let let it let you know that. It's going to dissipate jealousy. Yeah you know what uh I it's getting less and less it really it. Surely it's evaporating because I'm I'm really going. What does it matter? What is it is honestly feel like? You're probably in the right place right now. I'm getting there because I I really feel like when I'm eighty and I die. What is all these things matter? What is what is the house matter and and jobs that I've done? What matters is the memories friendships and the things that the enjoyment of life? Yeah the taking living being not going through the motions not trying to compare not trying to be someone but being the best you can be being the best human you could be giving and trying to love. And that's those those are the things I'm working on. So when my agent gets mad and says dude you know you WANNA work again. Do you WanNa like him. I I I am writing horror script right now. I'm I'm pitching the script scripted. I wrote for TV. Undoing animated series that my friend Harland. I am doing to podcasts. This is what I WANNA do. But that's not where the big bread and butter money comes from. You know to Spielberg calls. You let me know answer that fucking call. Yeah I'm lucky by the way this isn't like look dude. I've said this if I am like broke and someone goes we S. I'll do anything. I don't care what it is at Burger King to make money. I don't care that's how my momentarily was work work work but then I got to a point where look look. I'm not fucking like Brooklyn nine nine. Who knows what the fuck I'm just saying? I don't have the kind of money where I could just I can be. I'm comfortable right now table that I don't have to just I have to work. I have some fuck you money right. I don't know how much fuck yeah. It's not that for me for me. You know Many goals for career. But for me is to Brooklyn nine is just amazing. You know is to have a great job obviously and and with people that you love but you know you don't have control over that. Ideally I'd love to have a nice savings of money so like if jobs come along I really don't WanNa do. I can see okay. No I want to work on this movie. I think for many actors many vote many people in creative arts. I think have that goal. That's realistic realistic. No one wants to do anything they don't WANNA do. I think part of the reason. Maybe it's easier for the jealousy to go away now. It's like well you know what I'm like in your twenties. You don't know convy everything is possible. You don't know what you WanNa do and you see people doing all. That looks cool. That was cool. That looks great. I'll do that. I'll do that. You get older and you're like Oh actually we WANNA do this and I'm doing it you know I'm I'm writing my movie and it makes it easier and you're not comparing. Yeah you know I also think that the right play after twenty. Five years of whatever and forty-seven deer has to come a moment where you go. Oh that's not working for me. Yeah also by the way and the bigger thing doesn't work by the way we're all dust dial right. That's what I was trying to say. We're all dust. That's what I was trying in the wind. Yeah in the wind. We're all Kansas lovers. That's what I was saying. You said it more. Frankly more compact. We're all that's what. So what does it matter. You know it makes me feel better pizza making someone else feel good. Maybe you know. I think we're all put on this earth. Maybe just make other people happy which will make us happy before making other people. Happy with if we're helping other people that's making us feel good if you're doing something. They contribute to society of humanity. Whatever it is and I think for a lot of my life it was Mimi? Maybe meaning show show voice over a travel friends. This there wasn't that connection and now just working with hands hands on and charities and working with people in trying to help people and going somewhere for four hours to and leaving going and might have helped someone today I did. That's that's me. I swear I'm actually makes me tear up a little because so food on foot is a nonprofit organization that I'm a part of its for homeless people. Oh and They're high functioning homeless people so a lot of times people get money from the government that are mentally ill and things about the people that are actually high functioning that could work in the those. Are The people that suffer. So they don't get the money so a lot of times. You see these people on Sundays when you're feeding the homeless and you're doing these things in this organization's great because it says if you're motivated motivated if you want to be if you WANNA have a job if you want to have a place to live you can. Yeah and that's what organizations about. We're going to help you do that but you have to show us. That's great. You're motivated so just Sunday. This Guy Eric graduated the program and I'm just there you know and we're all as a hundred and something people there and people become there just to say oh. I Fed the homeless today. And that's nice. They showed up. Whatever it doesn't matter you're there you're there and as he starts giving his speech about you're saying hey man you know and he was very humble and he's just like you know telling about? This is where I was and the with this organization did and I just I was just lost in that in my heart. That's so great and I and I honestly had tobacco back because I didn't want all these people to see me Kinda Cryan. Yeah just backed up and I just and that feeling is worth so much more than most of the bullshit feelings that you get. That aren't even real any any anything to stop thinking about yourself is a good thing. I think I mean you know. That's a good lesson. Remember like a gotTa get it off a May. It's just the feel like a whole weight is off. You like what you're saying you see this change that you're making other people at such such a letterman talking about this at I think after his heart attack he's talking about how great it is to like help people like it's really true. Like for instance. My Amazing Wife. Beth dover is at the Federal Building. Right now bonding an immigrant out of jail so he can get with his family. You know she's with this organization called immigrant families together. That will make a huge difference to a person I mean. She's incredible for many many reasons reasons but That is only one of many things I love about her. But that feeling is like an comparible to anything like can you imagine when you're GonNa have a picture of a man that gets to go back to his three kids and his wife that are here in San Antonio that he was going to get the I mean this is the unreal stuff like it better than like an audition that you're gonNa miss or an episode of Brooklyn nine nine. You Know I. It's it's real. It's real struggle to Real. Will you know and it's good to remember stuff like that. I need to do more of it. I think everyone needs to do more of it. I think if everybody just took one day of the week to do something just to go go to a old age home go to accomplish and go to a homeless shelter join food on foot. Join me on a Sunday go. To a Ron McDonnell house. Help echoes of hope with foster a youth anything a day and he spent three hours. And you'RE GONNA go. What am I doing? I worry about me all the time all the time and this is just taking a moment. You'll be surprised. Surprised how good you feel like it is like Oh. My God isn't of all of this helping other. How have I been so blind? Wow helping people heels good. Hey you do you still do you stress. Do you still onset you Do you When you're learning your lines no no? Are you stressed at all anymore. You're stopped doc. You're excited about one. You don't ever go. Oh my God I'm fucking up. I can't do does know that no and has ever happened. Oh of course. Of course Boris. I think The early in the beginning. You don't WanNa fuck up and you don't want to You think you're not good enough for you. You're trying to get your your your sea legs on whatever new production you're on but I have been doing this and so so and I and I love that. I've been doing it so long that it is second nature. I remember. There was a time where I used to work worked for like an hour every night. I just don't have the time to do that anymore. Like I'll like and I do stuff now like morning of like makeup trail look at sides sides and start like learning start thinking lines on the day of. Yeah yeah because it's more improvisational feeling. No because it's just like such a tool now like like seven years like you know tv you get used to like how much time you'll have between shots and let you know you have time to really look at it. You also also know your writers you know the language of the script you know that they know the writing for your character so it's easy for you to think that character and therefore remember it easier so so you're know you're not throwing like if I'm if I get a job tomorrow where I'm playing this like dramatic role speeds or verbiage or even not a speech but longer lines finds that have different rhythms. You'll work on. I need to work on that like I. Charles Boyle is like you know back in my head in a great way and so I don't stress out out about how to do boil anymore. You know so. It's normal for me like when I'm doing a rural or it's dramatic or whatever that I really take a couple days to learn those lines that I have to know. They're not just like a line here three live here. I you know if you're in big chunks of CNN you have speeches and things like that. I can't I've never been one to wake up. Go to work looking trail and go. Oh here we go and yeah I got. I know those people you Kristen Bell whatever a lot of people. There's something that's so so stressful to me about not knowing my lines a mindset. There's something so stressful to me that maybe it's add maybe this new drug that Amman for my add which helps me. Maybe I could do it. Yeah but there's so I'm so distracted that when I'm on set and it was like Oh we're gonNA shoot an hour we're GONNA I. I just have to be prepared. We'll you're a hard worker. You know how long it takes takes Like I wish I could do won't small billy where you like that even after a matter because they always had a lot of lines and I try. But I couldn't learn and I'm like you know even Jensen I was talking on supernatural. Those guys they they'll look at it and I'll have tons of stuff Yeah I got a pretty good on the second take yeah. I'm so you think I'm so consumed worried about failing and everybody looking me like not good failure that I'm so hard on myself but that's where that comes from and I don't know how to change that I don't know how to change that right you don't you know that's a great thing to know about yourself. You know by the way I know we started late because it gave you a tour around the the hottest cat toys. You you WANNA do some quick lightning round. Did you get to everything you know. It's not about getting everything it's more about life like did the moment you'll see you'll see how these work but you know the lightning rounds. I we got everything we haven't even officials like even want to talk about the office. I go Not really that's so cool. I let me talk about the. Yeah everybody knows nine nine any Sandberg Terry crews all these guys is. Obviously you have to say the girls. Are there anyone on that. Set that your leg now are they all greatness I I I I know on the dirt but yes. It's they're all incredible people they really are and I. The party was Sandberg. Joe I want you to come out with me tonight. You WanNa go to this thing. Yeah we'll we'll we don't go out a lot because he's also a father and and you know he's got a life but like we have. Here's what we have this thing every year where we We make a bet that used to be about the show where we're like. How many flashbacks? You think there'll be this season and that was fun for why you make over under on it. You know you bet for money for a from a word like steak. Dinner is what we did and so we haven't done that in a while but now past has three years we've been doing like who has the worst record the jets or the niners San Frontiers are doing well. Yeah and so exactly. Two there was there was one one season where you know. The jets were doing it was it was who had the worst after the worst record and the Jeff got off to a great start in the niners were terrible and it looked like I was going to lose it. Looks like the jets would have the better record. And then the last half of the season the jets tank and like the night as this urge and the jets and evolving overseas in there for the steak dinner. That is not the case this year. Where it's such a joke? The Bet was who has the better record judging onto this year. Yeah Oh and four born four. Now that's our that's our kind of and then we go for a steak dinner and talk about. Is it hard to balance like you say you're dealing with low stress. You're going to therapy in therapy. Happy sessions what do you talk about. What will you say she'll say? Joe How're you doing. You'll say I'm stressed that in my ass. I can't stop obsessing about this movie. That isn't here. I don't know if Brooklyn nine coming back. I don't know what's going on my wife's doing this charity work with immigrants. Look at me. I'm worrying about things that aren't that important right. I can't get it straight. I'm nude again I'm new to therapy like I I I. I don't know really what to talk about their so I get there and I just talking about my day and my mood and you you know issues like my issues are like not that different like insecurity. Am I being the best person I can be. You know my giving back Am I a a good husband and my father. You know all all these all the basic boring shit that a Lotta people and not boring shit but important stuff but there's nothing there's there's nothing nothing specific. There's no specific issues like I'm GonNa talk about how great it was a do this you are. Yeah and then she's GonNa like. Why was it great unlike? Well well because I got to see my friend Rosie. I got to talk about some things. I don't talk about often. I got to get to meet Ryan and then you go from there and you know and then L. Nervous about getting a camera at my ass tomorrow. A little nervous about Nubia sleep. You know obviously in fact if you have an Ambien I can put put wake you up and say hey. I up getting groceries at two. Am and not remembering Ambien. Anything John Do you take any no nothing. You don't take any Zoloft and he's you don't take I've never thought about it like I should take something we'll take the edge off I've never I'm not a depressive person and I know I'm not no I think as of late because of the stress I'm like M. I. Depr- like I should look into that but I've always been a person. That's pretty outgoing enthusiastic optimistic annoyingly. So I think sometimes you know not eager you know but but I've always had like an outlook of like. Hey man it is what it is. It's live and let's just keep moving on. I don't get too wrapped up in sadness because and I'm not trying to Demean that mean anyone. That's that's real but like that's that's just never been my disposition and so if it was I would definitely be. It's great the five. That's a good part of it. I think so. I mean honestly if your parents were I mean I mean look did they say joe I love you Joe. I'm proud of you. Know they have them at suck they do they do all these things they you all these things. Yes that's vital and again you have to go one day in life to save. You had bad childhood which things happen. Sure you have to say all right well on my own personnel. have it over these things and I think for time a lot of people like myself just kind of it's hard. It's hard to go all right. I'm forget all those things that happened. Forget not being having. Yeah so but. I'm glad I'm glad that you're honest about that. I'm glad you had a great childhood. And that shows in the person you are. Yeah I mean look we are. Family has his function For sure but but affection was never an issue in the in the household. And letting you know it was right or wrong. What you're proud or disappointed in was always very open and transparent? I think that's healthy ultimately like do you feel safe right like you have a kid now. I'm like my job is to love and protect this child and just make they can feel safe. I feel like if you feel safe then. Then you're going to be off. You have a good start. I think if you feel safe whether your child or as an adult you're going to be the best you can be. I think that if I'm safe whether it's onset with people who I respect and I feel comfortable I could try things I could take risks. They're not looking at me funny whether you feel safe as a kid which is most vital. Yes it'd be like. Hey you know even if I dropped. The ball amounted stupid. Idiot ask Suck my My Dad's proud or those things are so important. I think being safe it sets you up. It sets you up for a really productive life that's receptive the everything but you know what you've earned yourself inside of you mug. I want one. Yup You got one in the back of the can you read it. Says it says you should know this already because you you read the sides and you get it right away. You're that two hours ago. Thank you for allowing me to be inside of you. That's right during that I want you to use it. It's a good mug. It's a good lookin' Mug admit I want I. I do admit and I wanNA thank you for having me and I love your brother. This has been great. What's your what's your instagram twitter? Handle a very joe literally owe at the job at Villa Trulia for both for twitter and an Instagram Brooklyn. Nine nine can be your nine nine is is is coming Out A mid-season replay January. The new season seasons seven offsite sometime in January. And it'll be great and funny. It's January it's starting in other words you shot all these. We've shot were Seven seven out of thirteen for this season. So we're we're mid seat where it mid shooting right. How many episodes have you done total We've done a hundred and thirty eight so far at the end of the season over one hundred and forty three. So you'RE GONNA go shoot it. Of course we did is in three. Oh seasons after season six so yeah. I mean after season after season six so after season. Six you've re-negotiate. Yeah so you waited six seasons we had to wait. That's the contract. After the second season we negotiate it. You did well. I don't think we were in to now. Was it hard ahead show. Is everybody treated equally or obvious. This is it was it was. It was cheered. It was tears here at. Yeah so this is what we're GONNA pay and you're like was hard. Yeah but it but not really tells out. He was paid well. I was happy the the the women weren't paid as well and that was wrong. 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PCC Multiverse #185- Halo Infinite Gets Delayed, Fortnite and Apple Face Off In Their Own Battle Royale, and The Reality of Comic-Cons With The Con Guys!

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PCC Multiverse #185- Halo Infinite Gets Delayed, Fortnite and Apple Face Off In Their Own Battle Royale, and The Reality of Comic-Cons With The Con Guys!

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This week's you WANNA go ahead and check out the latest episodes there plus with the NBA playoffs right around the corner you got to go ahead and get up to date on our thoughts on what's going on in the NBA there at the Lakers fast break and then also Chris are Jerry and I will be coming back very soon for all you fantasy football fans at inside sports fantasy football. I was going to say before we get started on this. Do you feel like taking a little walk around the rumor mill with me? Okay. Well, yeah absolutely. My friend you. You're always welcome to go around the room real. You know how much I love rumors as every time I, get a little bit squeamish when Jamie Monroy pros on game source all those game rant rumors and like only about twenty five to thirty percent of them are actually end up being true. So you know how much I love those rumors? Yes. But go ahead, take a walk around the school take a walk around the rumor. Mill. I was GONNA say Geraldine Post or even right now as he just did is going to be adding some emusic to the segment of the show. Is. Not going to be the limpest get song all about the he said she said, but it's GonNa be more family friendly. Yeah. Is What we're going for here. All right. So rumor number one comes from Aegean itself is a dangerous one remedy. Entertainment is currently working on a game that might be Alan Wake to control expansion that has to Alan wake so. If that happens will see. This next one comes from multiple websites all over the Internet. So I know he we had discussed this back during e as a state play events. A mass effect remastered trilogy is going to be released in. October temporary on that one. Yeah. This is coming from a lot of websites. So I feel like this one seems a little little bit more legit, but apparently, we're supposed to get an announcement for this next week. There's two more one comes from cocoa as I discussed with you before the show. Existing. Copies of control will not be upgraded to next Gen consoles you'll have to buy a completely new game. How do you feel about that? How how do you feel? Do you think that that's true I think the short the fans like that yes. I would think they would short the fans like that. I'M NOT GONNA put anything past these developers publishers no matter how big or how small I've seen too much as far as the video game industry is concerned. So I'm going to tell you right now my friend I don't put anything past these developers publishers, right? Now to make the extra because there is a lot of money involved, it takes a lot to go ahead and upgrade these games. So it's not exactly for free I mean just Oh. Let's just change the color scheme and their go. It does take money to go ahead and upgrade these to a different format, but we don't have to buy it. We as fans don't have to go ahead and purchase it automatically if we want that in Nice Shinier better looking. Control game we wait five years and it will play it fresh wait until it hits the bargain been there you go I mean this is a simple. We don't have to buy it and we don't have to clamor for it. You know right away it's a very successful game from a critical standpoint how well it sold it's sold I'm sure pretty good but I don't think it's sold gangbusters because it's a critical darling but it's not gotten you know the type of. Being Stream, wide acclaim, and attention from the large gaming audience. Out There I, think control still more not necessarily a niche right above that as far as the game is concerned and a lot of people who haven't played it yet. So they may be waiting for it and that's fine. It'll be fresh to them. But if you've already play control wait five years wait until the next gen version becomes a a bargain discounted product, and then if you want to go into play then but yeah, it just to me is something that again I I'm not surprised with this time no matter the size of the developer or the publisher whether it's small large yet it doesn't surprise me anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I. Mean in know like you're saying that you could always wait to pick it up in the bargain banner whatever wherever black Friday sale, whatever it might be by no remedies as a small studio. So you know they don't have the budget that like square or Microsoft or Sony Studios would have you know for their remastered. I don't know about you but like I sometimes get a hankering five years after game comes out to sit down, play it again. So I mean in that scenario yeah I would go out to the store and buy a new copy of control. Especially, if it meant that I could get achievements over again because I just a role you know that's the way. Role final rumor the day this comes from game informer dot com new image of Mario in the summertime sparked speculation frenzy. So if you remember a while back, we hit chatted about Nintendo possibly remastering a bunch of old Mario Games and this image seems to hint at a Super Mario Sunshine as we all remember I think that one was on Gamecube correct that's correct. Yeah. So this is one that I'm hoping is true actually because Nintendo has not made any announcements for anything coming on holiday time we had paper Mario you know even in their direct there wasn't anything like any first party titles mentioned we no one has any idea of what their holiday schedules going to look like if we're going to get big games, I, mean if there is a time to remastered anything and release it just for profit now it'd be the time to do it so I'm hoping that we could I would love to go back and play Mario Sixty four on the switch. I would pay for a physical copy of if the physical copy was was you know forty fifty bucks I will go out and pay for it. So I'm hoping that this rumors true seems like it has to be What are your thoughts? So are you in the same boat? Nintendo Nostalgia. If they see a nice chunk of change off of it, you know they're gonNA. Do what they can to Bleed Dry Anna We as fans we're going to just. Eat. It. Up, we're just GONNA. Lap. It all up I mean give us all the Nintendo Retro Ugandan Car Sixty Four Super Mario Sixty four Super Mario brothers three the whole nine yards if you if you give us updated versions of them, throw it on the switch my gosh. Take our money please as we see on. Out there I hear you I. Hear You. Well, thank you for taking a walk around the rumor mill with me until next time until next now. Continuing with your regular programming member, all those were rumors, and as we post a lot of rumors or as good friend, Jamie Munro Post a lot of game rant rumors that are honored game source facebook page not exactly thrilled when he does it because again, they don't have the highest batting percentage in the world, but a lot of these were done by Josh and research from other more reputable sites like Kotok Nigerian. So appreciate Josh you taking the time to go ahead and gather all this together because like you said, a lot of these rumors have appeared on other sites as well. We've got a great show for the rest of the time for your right. Now, we've got a lot of things to talk about including xbox series x xbox series s and the halo infinite delay. Talking about some reboots with McGraw and fresh Prince of bel-air Traum three is I guess alive that's Great News Fort Nine at Apple are not playing Nice Nice right now. Baseball Gaming. There's a big question on the future of facebook gaming and I'll explain why on the back into the show and then also was well, we have great interview from the guys from the CON- Guide Dot Com check out their site, the Congo Dot com if you want to know the latest and greatest on how Macon's and and also what's going on with their version of. Shark Week because they're big fans of Shark Week and jaws and all that. So we're talking to JIM FRY and the birthday boy Luke cheesman heads up out there luke happy birthday to you. Those guys are coming up for our audio portion that's coming up later in the broadcast for radio stations and podcasts channels as well. Hey Chat Ghost toasters and you're listening to pop culture cosmos podcast. Lakers fans looking for the best place to go up to date news information, original videos, articles, podcast opinion pieces, and discussions about the Los Angeles Lakers will look no further than LAKER HOLOCAUST DOT com. With the Legion of followers always they're talking about everything Lakers and the NBA. There's no better place to go to share your Phantom as the team heads toward another championship run. So stop fine and be part of the conversation today Laker Hollick's DOT com. But, I my friend. I want to go at an ask you this. Did you see the news lately for Microsoft and xbox speaking of rumors you forgot to mention one last rumor on a most likely nail down release date for the XBOX series X and. The xbox series S, we'll get to Hilo at a SEC. Yes. I had heard the rumors I feel like that was an accidental slip on their part I feel like it'd be a more formal announcement if is on purpose but I'd November that that's that's kind of what I was guessing I was guessing late October anytime a new halo has released. It's it's usually been laid October but yeah, no makes sense I imagine it's going to be an early November released a because that seems to be like the best time to put games out that way you had time to do it chapel you're on Thanksgiving break and doing all that stuff so November. Six looks like it's going to be the date that they're going to announce hasn't been confirmed but that seems to be the rumor since this abuser show the rumors that's the the rumor of the exact date and not only that that xbox series x is going to be announced as being available for delivery at that point in time but xbox series S, which is kind of leaked out another rumor that is most likely going to be substantiated a less expensive version of the XBOX series. The xbox series s was kind of leaked out on the packaging vache xbox controller. So that's also not the best way to go ahead and announce your next console. But again, xbox series x spot series S. What do you see playstation five doing in the interim you see them coming out before or after because in the last generation I believe they came out before a few days before if memory serves. Honestly think that it's all going to depend on the price point right. So there priced a little bit more expensive than the Xbox I imagine probably be smarter for them to come out before, but they'll have to xbox will. Yeah. So I mean I think that again, like pricing is going to also dictate the playstation release date and I want to say it's going to be after the xbox but I could be wrong as for the xbox being released. It worries me thanks something that we're GonNa chat about here in a few minutes but might. Hear. Definitive details come I. think it's next week right ex- xbox supposed to some kind of xbox state of play for next week something like that, and then also wash got the DC fund dome. So next week you and I are going to be pop culture doubt my friend because you have xbox and also DC just blabbing a whole bunch of stuff out there and you're not gonNA have to keep up with it. Yeah Yeah. Thrilled you sound slow through? Is Thinking about Microsoft like I'm curious like how much of their show had to be changed for the next big thing we're going to be talking about here and like how they're going to keep themselves afloat without but we'll talk about that a minute and that is. The delay of the premium game you know back in the original xbox one of the reasons why it got any type of traction sales concerned and no it didn't end up winning that council generation. One of the most beloved games of that generation did come out as a console exclusive that came out as a day and date aid that shipped out with the console as point in time as far as the console came out and again came out and that was halo combat evolved. And they were GonNa try and repeat history here with the xbox series x and xbox series s and have the same day and date release of Halo Infinite. Unfortunately things have gone awry whether it's the free to play format that they're discussing the battery AL format, discussing all the different proposed ideas or the backlash on the graphics whatever you'd say about Halo Infinite. It has caused a delay twenty, twenty one. So the statement was made this past week that halo infinite that's going to be delayed until next year is this a crucial hit? Or getting the xbox series X and X series S. off the ground. I think. So this is probably a reason why we're not seeing a four. Launched to write because of Halo was supposed to be Halo was the game that was going to sell mass units for these consoles, and now that halo has been pushed back. Obviously, they haven't announced any launch titles yet, but it doesn't seem like we're going to be getting anything. Big. You know any known titles unless they're gonNA ship like a version of tactics out with the xbox but there's nothing big that has been even talked about a rumored or anything surrounding the launch of the xbox except or Halo. So they were really pushing a lot of marketing onto halo and I imagine a lot of things that have had to be rearranged m I. Hope is that if there was something that was supposed to release in January, February I would hope that that's not going to be rushed just so they can have some kind of big launch title with the xbox. I have more but I want to hear what you think about that. It really decreases the chance I'm going to go ahead and buy an xbox series either x or s on day one if there's nothing attractive to go ahead, bide the there's no games for it. I mean because I love disappear I love to see obsidian disavowed but I'm not GonNa see that until twenty, twenty, two, twenty, twenty, three now I hear in this is like, okay if that's the case I, don't see halo, which was kinda interested in which to me it looked fine. I had no real big issues on. It look nice little colorful look like it going to be wide open type of game I was going to have fun with it. But yeah, right now, there's just not very much incentive at all to buy an xbox series whatever on the day and date whether it's November six or whenever they decide adventure release it. Yeah. There's just for me. It's just not a by right now at all. Yeah so I mean my hope is that Microsoft has some kind of huge surprise announcement coming up or else this could really sink them come holidays. As for Halo itself, I also thought that it looked to great I mean they went. With a simpler dolar color Palette but I mean I don't think there was anything wrong with the graphics screen shots say release were not flattering but. You know all things aside if you actually went back and watch the legitimate four K. trailer, the game looked pretty good. And this is one of those things I know we've talked about this before but video game fandom like the culture that surrounds video. Games has this tendency to be incredibly toxic. You know I wonder how much of like the sheep voices they heard were from Sony Fan boys or if it was from Microsoft, Fan Boys legitimately concerned about the product like I would love to know that but I don't think those are numbers will ever get so that they had said for those who don't know they had said halo infamous going to be delayed because of Kobe. And I want one of the reasons one of the reasons but one of the reasons yeah. But I'm leaning towards e idea that it's not that because look. At the last xbox conference they talked about a low was still being flagged for November right for the holiday release and that wasn't too long ago. Yeah. So look at this halo infant has been in development just as long if not longer than cyberpunk cyberpunk keeps pushing their release back. So it was truly because of Covid they had to have known this a long time ago that because of covid. To make that release schedule. So that leads me to believe that them pushing this date back is due. To the negative feedback that that demo got and you know they said at twenty twenty one released date and I'm thinking honestly that it's probably going to end up being next holiday season. Before we see this game I don't think that it's going to be something that turns up on quarter one even quarter to prophets of next year. How much of the game was actually prepared for launch you know was this something that was rushed or was it something i? Don't know there's there's so many unknowns in this decision Anna but I just I don't think that says good things. For the launch of the next xbox it. No, it doesn't send any good message at all to gamers out there and if I was somebody who was on the fence about buying one right away. I think people now are really off the fence no matter even if there's an xbox series s now less expensive version that they're going to be very very soon, that will be also coming out Dan date with early November November six or whenever they ultimately decided to go ahead and release it I think there's a lot of people like myself that were ready and willing to go ahead and spend money on it that are now not going to spend money on it at this point in time maybe the graphics look the way they did because they're having them developed for both the Xbox one and the xbox series eggs and I wonder if like now. Being. Pushed back they can kind of rework things using the full capabilities of the xbox series x because you know notoriously, they only really creating muster the we they keep creating games for the last Jedi Council for about six months. So I wonder if they just focused on making next box series x game if it'll look any better, we'll have to wait and see my friend I have to wait and see. What are your thoughts out there first off on Joshes rumor mill as we took a trip around the rumor mill d like any of the rumors to be true I love the mass effect one and that one I've been hearing for a long time now. So I'm hoping that will finally come to fruition. What are your thoughts on any of the rumors that Josh had already stated in the early part of the show. And of course, what are your thoughts on the xbox series x xbox series s and the Halo Infinitely? Are you still going to get an xbox series? Extra s when it comes out most likely in early? November we want to hear your thoughts pop culture cosmos at Yahoo Dot Com also while pop culture cosmos, humanity comedian game source on facebook twitter instagram as well plus aquaculture Culture Cosmos Wallet Still Alive unless it's been banned. On Tiktok as well. Well my friend before we go ahead and get to our good friends at the Guy Dot COM Jim fry lute cheesman, and once again, happy birthday to you luke as recording this Wanna go ahead and hit up some more development. Hollywood rumors out there my friend and quickly your thoughts unimak Gruber reboot as a TV series headed to I. Think Peacock for streaming not interested in the slightest. I have friends who thought the movie was funny. I do not think the movie was funny. I've never really been interested that's a will. Work. Will. Forte. Ford the I don't think it's funny I'm sure some people think it's funny but I am not interested in this show in the slightest. Are you know? I am not for the same exact reasons didn't think was funny before and I probably won't think it's funny now but you know what these streaming networks will always come up with now ideas to go ahead and reboot refresh as we'll be talking about here again in the second. So I'm hoping one of these series from the past in hit ED or monk go ahead and maybe at. Peacock, they're going GONNA keep coming up with stuff like this. So the Gruber will go ahead and be a success. I don't know the movie itself was kind of a surprise hit at the box office way back when so there's a reason why they're doing it. So I guess you know wait and see. But again, mcgruder coming believed to peacocks sometime in twenty twenty, one speaking of reboots. The fresh prince of Bel Air is being rebooted with will Smith as an executive producer, your thoughts on the fresh prince of Bel Air being rebooted. But this time as a drama. Okay I'm GonNa say something that is GonNa make me unpopular I. Love the idea of a fresh prince reboot. Love that show I. Think they're making it into a drama because they're pandering to a moment in time I. think that's very risky. I could be wrong. It could be amazing but I think that's risky in I. think that it destroys everything that the fresh prince was it was about this kid moving to Belair from. A rundown area and just how he coked within like it's a comedic show it's it's funny. It's very situational comedy and I think they're trying to make it into something that is not I'm wondering if it was even met to be a reboot of fresh prince or if it was just a show someone wrote and then they branded it fresh prints, it doesn't make any sense to me why they would make change the genre. And again, like I love the original fresh prince like it's even to this day it's one of my favorite shows but I just I don't. It having any place being a drama the other one did ha-. If you remember the the old show had dramatic moments and an, but it hinged more on the Sitcom type humor. So I I just like it'd be if someone remade full house as a as a drummer. So on Remade step-by-step as a drama I just I don't see it being something that works especially if. No there's a lot in astrology attached this series and I just I don't see. People being very fond of something like this I agree with you that. It's going to be a show that has a lot more social relevance to it and I applaud that but don't package and under the fresh Will Smith. ICAN executive producer. That's fine. Just, create something new create something special out of it even if it's the same concept as far as individual from one side of the universe, coming to a different side of society and things of that nature. That's fine. Just repackaging as something else don't attach the name of fridge principal air because people might be expecting something different and might be disappointed by it. Is Expecting the laugh out loud comedy that Will Smith. The talent there. That's how he he became the superstar that he still is today in some respects that he had such talent at the time that you saw showcased on that show and I've just believe at this point in time to repackage it into a drama. I just let it stand on his own. It seems like a great concept to put insofar far as a drama I would mind it but to use that name, I'm not sure I I. I, think a lot of people are going to be kinda down on that aspect. I would have loved to have just seen that type of show or movie or concept taking place with the as an original. Ip. And going from there because there's going to be enough people that will support it or nuff streaming networks or programs or networks that will support it. With Will Smith's name attached regardless of whether or not says fresh prince of Bel Air or not if it was repackaged. That's fine. The idea and all that. But if it was named an original name, let standouts on its own I think meet would have sufficed a lot better but. We. WanNa hear thoughts out there I. Mean it's the fresh prince of Bel. Air Repackaged as a drama. Are you really into it? Would you've liked to seen it repackage with a different name I'm probably going to still see it and give it about as fresh look as I can with it but we want to hear your thoughts on Pop Culture Cosmos at Yahoo Dot Com. Tron three got a direct. My Friends Jared Lido's tron three looks like it's somewhat off the ground friend in development. What are your thoughts on trying three getting a director we? Done deal yet because as you seen but uncharted, that had fifteen thousand directors attached to it, but trump three is getting a director. Jerry. Lido. Still attached is something you WanNa see? Yes it is for sure something I want to see so we talked about a while I know they had the guy who had originally been involved in the story boarding for trump three said trump three is going to be released the Disney plus movie but if it has jared Lido in I, don't think it's going to be a Disney plus movie i. think that sounds more like movie theater material to me. What it sounds like those that were not going to get a continuation of the Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde story we're going to be getting something else here. I. Told you before that I thought there's a whole bunch of scenarios you use or Tron and the future of trauma. There's a series or another movie you talked about this I was the last month. Yeah we did. We did and I I. Mean I think it's if it goes to theaters I be awesome and I would definitely go see it I just I I don't know. What is going to happen to continuity here you know like, are we going to end up with a situation like tron to had where dirt Lido maybe gets into the GRUNY runs into Garrett Hedlund? Are they even going to reference the last movie? I just I don't WanNa see it just. Jump. You know like that's something again, we'll go back to bladerunner twenty, forty, nine, I'm they did really well was. While the story didn't center around Decker, it still referenced him a little bit. You know like it involved him in the plot though he wasn't the main characters I would just hope that. Tron does something similar to that instead of just giving us a whole new story not even telling us what happened to the last batch of characters What are your thoughts on tron three becoming a reality with Jared Lido Anthony Director in place shares, her thoughts pop culture cosmos at Yahoo Dot Com. Coming up next, we've got JIM FRY and the birthday boy Luke cheesman from the Congo dot com they're coming up to about how COMECON are trying to reevaluate the current climate of today's con world plus also talk a little shark week as well and then when we come back, we're going to talk about facebook gaming gaining a large audience and also the fortnight. IOS controversy as well on the back end of the show this. Is the PCC. multi-diverse going sued zero cool films presents action figure adventure Super Collector Jay Bartlett hit the once again and search of action figures most iconic and noteworthy the end rare figures all in the name of creating the most ultimate suit figure auction. Ever he fronts the cash that charity benefits in the end, what will he get? How will you get it and how well will he do find out November I twenty twenty? Or I. Know we're back on programs Jerrell glass for coming right back at you here on the pop. Culture Cosmos. I know this year has been a little bit crazy with corona virus and all that but thing that hasn't slowed down at all. That's right. Comma concerts still going on across the country they're finding new ways to approach their audience with several ideas out there from. Two other ways they can go ahead and connect with their audience because people still want to go ahead and celebrate comic cons because they are such a great place to go such a way to go ahead and have everybody get together to have a fun time especially on various aspects of pop culture and one of the best places to go for your news and information on Con- life. Is the CONNED GUIDE DOT com. It's news of the CON Universe and you won't check it out right now there's no better place to go than the con- Guy Dot Com and I've got to the guys behind the Guy Dot Com right now on with me on the show and that's Luke cheesman and Jim fry and guys thank you so much for being part of the program today. Thank you for having us. This is such a pleasure to be here. Good to be here, great to have you guys on the show. First I want to ask you luke is that as you know with the corona virus, it has totally just thrown everything out of whack from every part of the society, and obviously we don't want to get into the huge particulars with that but. Khan linked with comic cons and the now there's so much of a part of pop culture. And unfortunately the way we've seen over this year as far as the different aspects of con- life have changed because corona virus hasn't it definitely. So a lot of the conventions as you know like. A big part was just these large gatherings of people on a lot of it was based off that and they had these convention floors that were basically shoulder to shoulder. You go to a place like San Diego Comic Con. You could barely walk through the floor because it was just so crowded and with all this happening or not able to go, but a lot of them have kind. Of decided more virtual and luckily a lot of the vendors have been able to survive because of the online shopping and all that and a lot more worried about it in the beginning because they weren't getting the business in basically all their main business from the year comes from these conventions but it's been interesting to see how they've been adapting to the change that's going on right now. They really have we'll take San Diego. For example, they were they came out probably with the probably the most robust online experience most of the conventions if not all I mean, they're still convention center civil the schedule as they are trying to happen, but it's very doubtful. We're GONNA see any in-person conventions this year so that so they've all tried to create something virtual and we've got to give him credit at the beginning it probably wasn't the. Best people slapped on a couple of panels and here's a guest and you can pay the see this one guest over here or something but standing echo comecon kinda changed it all day pushed out three, hundred, fifty hours of programming over five days. All staggered at different times just like you were at a convention in they were high profile they had the walking dead they had bill and Ted's hosted by Kevin Smith but not only people can. See videos just about anywhere but the interaction like comecon they still had court fuller reviews we submit your artwork if you are inspiring artists and you get feedback still had the masquerade where people did fifteen second performances and it was all put together and voted upon. So they had like interaction which was great like New York Comecon, which we just recently has going one hundred percent online as well, and they're so there have like a medical mention. Of all the different brands and then in October near kind is going online. So I'm looking forward to seeing what went to. We're kind of in an evolving space right now where everybody assumed that, wow, there is a little bit of fatigue of only being able to see things online but the conventions of starting to get a little bit more creative in looking for ways to interact with fans because that's why like Luke said, that's what everybody's missing. We, love the news we love finding out about pop culture. We Love Finding out about what our favorite celebrities favourite comic book artists are doing, but there's nothing that can really replace right now the interaction of shaking hands meeting your favorite people. But they're trying they're using cameo, which is an online way for a lot of celebrities that would be a convention to do special one on ones with people. And and people are doing. They're still autograph opportunities available. So yeah, it's it's a tough season, but like Luke said, one of the biggest things that was hit was the vendors because so many vendors make their livelihood off these conventions in their kind of having a really hard time right now. So we just encourage everybody to make sure you are still following your favorite benders in don't abandon them during. This time because they need you as much as you want to be part of what they're doing, I wanted to ask you as you guys mentioned CEO Kahn which everybody knows. It's probably the most infamous of all COMECON set are out there and covered a quite a bit on this show extensive and one of the things that we covered luke was the fact that marvel and DC they're doing it. Are Fun Dome Event I want to ask you what your opinion on San Diego Comic Con as Jim mentioned. There was several things each and every day fans could look forward to but was missing marble and DC that one big thing that could draw in an audience I think it for me and a lot of reaction out there seeing that marvel DC element missing was a big big hit sandy. I think a lot of those bigger panels were missing. You could definitely feel the absence of that usually starting as soon as Thursday they were dropping big panel like you'd have all these big movies that promoting and you basically from there all the way to Sunday and having these gigantic annals brothers or the Marl. These like those announcements were something like you'd look or two probably more than anything happening at least my hand like I loved here by this is the next phase or marvel, or here's a special limps that in kind of missing that did feel like part of my comecon experience was missing now I do feel. That some of the smaller panels that usually don't get as many people and we on one of those channels usually only fills maybe you're able to get a lot more views on some of these smaller ones at school that their recorded. But especially, the bigger ones having the fan reactions in having these gigantic announcements, I definitely did miss those I, did miss them as well and you're going to be seeing next week with all the big announcement said that DC has store Oh. Sorry. In ten days from our conversation, what DC has to offer they're gonNA obviously run down a lot of things that s DEC could benefit from. Of disappointing because. You know we see this as well with E. Three in studio game world that now, all these publishers want to do their own thing if it goes back to the real world as far as we're getting out of corona virus and people are starting to really gather again in numbers. And San. Diego Comic Con. Doesn't get back DC and barbasol there could be a problem I agree with you marble in DC. Those are the premier giant hall age events, which kind of make kamikaze the modern comics on what it is today with marvel because of the shutdown, the pandemics in the stop and production I'm not so sure that they had a full grasp on what their release schedule was even going to be because it's it's been changing even as much as two weeks ago. There was the investors conference with while this company in things were being changed I. think that might be part of the reason marbles. decided not to be part of it also, I do think that the marble will be back DC especially warner brothers DC there perhaps like it was last year in San Diego and I think they had twenty two to twenty six panels a sponsored still much of this. It's their big thing I though am looking forward to the DC event that's coming out the it looks very, very cool. Once again, I'm on with Luke cheesman and Jim fry from the con- guy. You gotTA check out their awesome site today the con- Guy Dot com where they cover the latest ingredients going on in conventions and kamikazes right there for you got a ton of stuff for your right. There including exclusives, videos, cons, play podcasts, and also updated convention information. So you WANNA go ahead and check it out today the common guide Dot Com. But before we get to what you guys are working on with short week and all that because I covered it as well on the Monday show about what the importance of it is for the discovery channel. I Know Josh I talked about it at length in regards to that Jim Luke I want to hear your thoughts on one thing you would add to make it special to make it worth more worthwhile to make it they could draw in obviously a larger concern face do you mean like the online experience? You guys are running a COMECON. That's a think tank. Guys gotta go ahead together and but hits on exactly what one aspect you'd like to throw him. I got something. All right. Go here at least panels like a big thing is the QNA time like people just get so excited to ask these people these questions now I think either whether it's 'cause, I wish they had more of a live chat feet although it'd probably be going insane but if they'd select just a select few of people that would get Kinda. Video chatting and you get to see that kind of freak out kind of people getting starstruck moment to kind of ask their favorite you know actors or filmmakers or whatever the questions I feel like that would add a little more personal to. More people I make it s this personal question. So I would definitely add that aspect and I would say that would be my number one thing. The same thing the number one thing they need to do right now, find a way for you to interact with the people you're coming to see whether it's your favorite artists, your writer, the creators or even celebrities. If there's a way to interact in ask questions, meet make an autograph, feel a little bit more personal than just clicking tablets shows up in the mail. There's a way at somebody can break that code they're going to have created an awesome online experienced. That I think we're live after the pandemic get to the patent office guys get into the game, the patent office I got to go ahead and come up with something that he got something on your hands right there. But before you guys, I wanna go ahead and get your thoughts because you guys obviously by looking at facebook, live your walls and seeing the impression that jaws has made in your life and going to the con- Guy Dot Com, and you can see. I guess the interviews that you've done there and also as well. The basically everything that you've got there in regards to how important Shark Week is to both you guys but in reference to the stuff that you guys do for the site, but also in your own personal lives, Jim we'll start with you please. Let me know exactly what Shark Week needs. I have always loved. Shark. Week I. Get excited every year about it but as far as like the con- guy since we are as a website that celebrates conventions and Phantoms, I've got to actually get credit to loop. This was loose brainchild. We're also screenwriters and one of the reasons loot love screenwriting is because of the movie jaws, it's one of the things. I don't want to speak for him. So I'M GONNA, pitch it over to Luke. All I WANNA say is if you guys love Shark Week and you love jaws come on, check us out at the Guy Dot com we have a whole week's worth of interviews with people from the original jaws. Fantastic. Go ahead loop also since I was about eight years old when I of came across jaws for the first time as far as actually kind of attempting to watch the movie which I still Kinda looked away on the shark parts when. I was a kid but I just created this lifelong obsession with jaws in great white sharks especially, the great white sharks I was obsessed with other sharks go to library get every book I could on sharks. So like I just was very big sharks and then it never fully fizzled out but then getting the phantom stuff I just really got back into jaws and started collecting things. If you see my house, I have just have so many different things. If I see exclusives or different things have jaws I just have to buy them. But I feel bad for my future wife she's going to be like, what are we going to do with this stuff but I? Have always loved it in his being a big fan and. At came up the ideals like with it being the forty fifth anniversary why don't we do something? We've never done where we do a week long thing shows because usually we do show every week or two, but I was like, let's celebrate shark. Week. Let's celebrate jaws forty anniversary. I don't see anything out there where you're really getting a different show each day on it. So we went and we contacted a lot of the people from it and we're just even today were like continue to building the more. And more people in it might even be something that continues beyond Shark Week like for instance, we have people joe als who created the shark. There's something going on called return of the ORCA, which is basically they're recreating the ORCA they're calling it the Orca three project and you can support that and you can even go on boat tours once it's done, we had them on. We also had a couple actors. We had a Jeffrey. VOORHEES. Who Played Out Kitin himself, you can check that on our website out. We also just today released Jeffrey Kramer who played deputy Hendrickson. Ad, we just have so much more coming and we have Carl Gottlieb were very excited about that, and we did a previous interview with Greg Tarot that we're going to be sharing is he took the only remaining sharp made from the original. It was the basically the Bruce for it was in a junkyard, and then he took it back in and restored it fully. It's GonNa be in a museum hopefully at the end of the year if it opens, but it's been awesome. Just sharing the seizures angering the fan reactions online like we're getting comments and other people that just love it, and this might be something we continue of like taking certain bands. Sing like, Hey, can we build like an episode one-two-three of just exploring a fan of different castes or different people and there's a chance we are looking into possibly doing a back to the future thing second workouts but a very excited to be sharing jaws and doing it during shark and watching shark week as we're doing it. Well, this is the year of the forty fifth anniversary of jaws. I know that it's getting closer and closer to the fiftieth anniversary here in a few years. But each year shark week is an event in and of it's self and it just reminds people of the fascination that we have with sharks in an of itself. So. Again if you WANNA go ahead and check out all the shows that they're doing and it all everything that they're up to WANNA go ahead and check it out today at the conned guide dot. com. Both Luke and GM and everyone there do a great job on covering everything up and actually teaching out everything that they're doing and truly is a great job indeed plus again, if you need the latest greatest news on everything upcoming for like you guys were talking about fandom events or kamikazes, no better place to go and the kind guy dot com. Guys it's been great talking. Yeah. I, WanNa get you back on the show. As. We talk more kamikazes here in the near future. Hopefully, there'd be a time in the not too distant future. We can get back to normal like you were talking about Jim. Fans interacting once again, just truly appreciate that type of atmosphere someone who's been to several kamikaze over the years themselves I miss the Camaraderie, I miss looking out on the floor and seeing people in their 'cause play outfits talking to each other remarking and and and appreciating each other's work that they do go ahead and put into it, and just basically the all around great atmosphere of the content sell fans meet each other to celebrate what we love. Absolutely absolutely indeed. Once again, I've got cheesman and JIM FRY on the show from the Congo dot com I hopefully get a chance to check out their awesome sight the Guy Dot com as soon as possible, and hopefully get on Nice bite out of. As well. Water. Exactly. Exactly what guys is been so great having on the show and I look forward to bring him back on again real soon, right here at the pop culture asthma's you need your video game fix be sure to check out Retro City Games located in Town Square on Las Vegas Boulevard, or in Henderson Nevada Retro City Games as the cure for all your video game vices, Reggie Games and Games for current consoles. Nintendo Sega have playstation xbox and more retrofitted games has all the staples from any library in some highly collectible offerings to to pick up a few games today at Retro City Games in Town Square on Las Vegas Boulevard or Henderson Nevada Retro City Games is your video game trials. And we're back to close out the show this multi I wanNA. Thanks so much Jim. Fry Luke cheesman from the CON- guide dot com talking about the future of cons at least the short term future in the world of Corona virus as far as comedy concert concerned, and also shark week as well. My friend before we had on out, you know about the the latest controversy between fortnight and apple store and might include Google play store here in a little bit because apple. Pulled out fortnight from the apple play store because of fortnight getting. So mad at thirty percent cut that apple and Google gets told customers go ahead and bypass apple and also Google and buy directly from. And offer them discounts in return in order to do so. So want to hear your thoughts on this latest controversy between Apple and fortnight it's blowing up on our game source page that we posted. A lot of people are talking about and reacting to it. So what are your thoughts on fortnight? Being, removed from the apple store and I'm assuming at some point in time, Google may not like that as well I. This is tough. I'm not a huge fan of apple though I do have an iphone I apologize. Apples such a massive company they overprice things on their stores and they undercut. Stories. I have friends and bands who say like apple really takes a big share of their profits whenever they sell music and stuff like that. So I can totally see apple doing something like this. But at the same time like I understand why they're upset rather as a contract signed Yada, Yada but also thirty percent is a lot of money for safe. You consider how much money fortnight makes right off of their micro transactions. Thirty percent is a lot of money and apples probably making a lot of money from that and. You look at epic. I'm sure epic they're probably making plenty of money also, but I mean, you look at them, they don't sell physical copies of their games. All their money is made off of micro transactions. This is their only source of income and apples taking thirty percent of it. I can see why they would want do this also. Ample. member. Google does the same thing, Google. Yeah. So you know if they're doing this to four, now I'm curious how many other game companies are doing this too but you know as far as I know epic is taking apple to court and I don't know what's going on currently but. Yeah. It's just it's crazy that it escalated so quickly but. You, know I it's just it's epic is for those that don't know epic Discontinue v Bucks Right, if I is The box, they lower the price of. That's they've lowered the price. Attractive because of the thirty percent that they're not paying apple right now in order to do. Yeah and I wonder if that means because out probably mean since the Games free that apple's not profiting off of it at all anymore. So it must have been a pretty decent chunk of change for them to really take notice like this. Again, it comes down to this is a major power play between A. Company that has grown by leaps and bounds even though they were very large before obviously they made the unreal engines and they had successes in the past before they sold gears award to Microsoft and obviously several games from the past as well. But four-night has been there big time success for them that they've that pretty much not any other game has reached I mean there's there's only been like you can count on one hand the number of games that have had this kind of success with micro transactions with with generating revenue in volume four night. May Not be at the height as it was maybe last year or the year before but it's still at a really really really high rate of volume and revenue for the company and go ahead and take itself into the position where we wanted to go ahead and undermined what are contract value is with apple and Google and try provide consumers a better way of doing things. They've got a lot of bravado and they've got a lot of power right now because all the money that they've made from four nights. So they've got a lot of CACHET. But this is a standoff, my friend. This is a standoff between Google, apple and fortnight and I'm very interested to see. What's going to be take place in future I have a feeling. It's going to end up back on the apple play store, and if Google decides to take it off, it will end up back on Google play store I. Don't think all three will coexist with the other for an extended period of time because it just doesn't make sense for all parties concerned. But for in in the meantime you and I as observers are going to enjoy seeing the standoff at this point. Yeah unless it comes up with some kind of like outside contract that supersedes the current apple guidelines they haven't played it honestly would not make any sense for epic to not give into apple's demands is kind of a weird situation. Absolutely a weird situation, but we'll keep monitoring it here at the pop culture cosmos or check for updates right on our game source facebook page. I know Jamie myself and Josh. We'll be updating that site regularly you WANNA check out the latest news and trends in Video Games on game source at facebook. My friend has been a great episode once again thank you Jim Fry Luke cheesman from the con- Guy Dot Com for being on the show today. But before we hit on out facebook gaming which were on right now my friend, all's great facebook gaming sites. So I do Wanna go ahead and give a shout out to all those great baseball gaming and livestream facebook gaming groups that are out there that go ahead and allows to go ahead and showcase our shows on there and also our game streams. But before he added out my friend facebook gaming is not getting off on the ground I think they were hoping to because. When mixer said bye bye and was giving a lot of its assets, a lot of the contracts or giving a lot of the decisions. Or the streamers to go ahead and hop on to facebook. Gaming. Lot of them. Very surprisingly to me said, you know what? I don't want any part of facebook gaming Ninja Shroud. Those two were contract to mixer. They were some really really popular streamers for twitch that went over to mixer and then decided they wanted to bypass. FACEBOOK gaming platform and go back to either youtube twitch knicks that Ninjas doing or shroud, and then doctor disrespect you know has had a lot of issues with twitch as of late. When ahead and decided to go onto youtube and again bypassed for the most part facebook gaming. None of these big time triple, a really, really very popular with a great following game streamers. For the most part, I should say virtually none of them have gone the way exclusive deals with facebook gaming. So I want to hear your thoughts. Besides. Hiring US and contracting us which we both know is given that they should do high facebook. I want to ask you this. What does facebook gaming need to do in order to get that kinda crowd because shroud came back to twitch four, hundred, thousand viewers Ninja twitch and Youtube bigtime viewers Dr disrespect big time viewership on Youtube. Why no love for facebook gaming honestly I think that facebook in and no offense anyone out there. WHO's a huge fan of facebook but I think facebook is starting to. Become antiquated in the eyes of the young, right like it's the you know I sound like an old soul right but our kids don't use facebook anymore they use instagram the youtube like those things are still happening in. It's still like it's relevant with kids I don't know a lot of people under the age of twenty that are on facebook. So I think that has a lot to do with it i. also think that you know among all these new movements going on in society like there's a lot of distrust happening with facebook and their board of directors and Zuckerberg like they court a lot of controversy in the news and. I think that that's also one of the reason that younger people tend to stay away from them but I mostly think that's just because facebook is not something that young people who like to watch game streams really flocking to anymore nobody has profiles all their social media's done the Instagram, the gone youtube all the time, which is a big one for them tick Tock Yeah it's just I don't think that facebook has a big enough audience to sustain what they're trying to do and I get that they're trying to bring people back to facebook facebook is what everybody's parents are on. So I just don't see them like succeeding in that Endeavour. Shame because again like you said it is about getting that younger audience come back to facebook. Because facebook doesn't have enough money as they have enough money to go ahead and dish out the kind of dollars necessary to attract one or more of these high profile streamers. They just need to go ahead and provide a platform which I guess from what I'm seeing with facebook gaming used to be nice streamlined raid go run and they're trying to do that I see good things coming from facebook gaming and facebook game streaming some hoping that these high profile streamers will give it a try but also create some stars of your own. And Yes am I going head and saying what? I, say Oh. Yes. Go ahead. Get US get us that'd be nice. That'd be awesome. A facebook said. They come knocking on the door and say Hey Josh Gerald. We love you to be our next streaming. SARS. But we. Had the chances of that are not as high as we would like them to be bud. We put out good stuff but find others because like you said, if it's about getting younger audiences hearing us two older guys were probably not going to go ahead and get the demographic that they want all the time or these two eighteen to twenty five demographic that they want. So you know what? Go ahead, find some young stars, create them, advertise them, promote them, go ahead and do what you can. To build those stars and then again, also get Rachel's like ours and put us on a platform or others like the Jock nerd podcast or voice from the underground or a lot of these podcasts out there that still love and promote facebook to the extreme like we do go ahead and support them as well. I mean because there's a lot of independent podcasters that you could go ahead and big-time promote. Because the audience that we get, we get hundreds we get sometimes a lot more than that. Just by going off of the sheer, we just post whenever we want to but we could use a lot of help and I know a lot of other independent podcasters could as well. So and that might be a way to go ahead and get people into facebook gaming is to go ahead and use game streamers UC's people with some notoriety on facebook. I, think facebook has the platform like you said, despite all the controversy and does have enough platform and notoriety to go ahead and get some of that market back. They just gotta go ahead and take the right steps to do some. So before Joshua's profile on facebook gets lockdown and our pop culture cosmos inhumanity can be appropriate. Well. Justice comments. Not exactly disagreeing with them because in a lot of places. Yeah. Facebook it does have issues, but there is still a lot of positivity out there for facebook. You just gotTa go out there and find it and I think it's a lot of what I say about these sports about finding that next wave of individuals that can go ahead and promote good stuff for your audience. What are your thoughts out there on facebook gaming? Are you interested? Do you watch it? Are you watching us right now shares her thoughts pop culture Cosmos Mandate Comedian, and game source on facebook twitter instagram and of course, pop culture cosmos on Tiktok and yes. Pop Culture Cosmos facebook. On my friend. Great episode at a lot to talk about a lot of stuff to ramble off. Starts from the Rumor Ville or otherwise on the way. No but I'll make sure those more places to visit on the next episode of rumor, Mill. The only thing about rumors, a lot of times. They'll. So for John's Peterson. This is Gerald Asamoah. Another Beautiful Day paradise right here in the P.. C.. C. Alzheimer's. Thank you feel this. And here's hoping. You have yourself. A gray. My name is quoth. 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Ep. 2: Brian Heffron "The Blue Meanie"

First Match

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Ep. 2: Brian Heffron "The Blue Meanie"

"The first off I want to thank you so much for all the love that you've shown first match here in our First Week. I am fucking humbled. A bunch of five star ratings a of core views like this one from Shannon saying entertaining and well produced. I thoroughly enjoyed the first episode of first match. Jesse Cage I. The sound quality is top notch. Shannon says I hate listening to a podcast with good content poor sound. This is professional second Jesse's some host. Now I'm blushing. Pantalone is He's entertaining and I love the deep dive into the backstory of DOT gals. I can't wait for the next episode. Shannon you don't have to wait long next episode coming up here in just a minute. Make sure that you throw a rating and review wherever you're listening to first match whatever podcast platform you're on would absolutely love to get your feedback on it. A smoker also hit us up and said loved Jesse. I'd like to hear Jake the Snake Roberts on your show fuck yes. I would also love to hear Jake the Snake Roberts here on first match. I think that origin story. If you will would be an absolutely stellar story to tell so Jake is a guy that we're working on getting here on first match in. Listen if there's something you would like to hear on first match your favorite wrestler. Do me favor. We've just tag me at Jesse cage over on Twitter J. SE KFI as well as your favorite wrestler tag them in at whoever and Hashtag first match. And I will do my damndest to get your favorite wrestler right here on first match before we get into this week's episode one. I think one of our sponsors Boulevard Burgers and tap house on Saint Pete. Beach told me the Cage Burger and toot listen. It is a perfect Burger Patty. Then they put cheddar cheese then they take a hand breaded chicken finger but it really chicken breasts. They put on top of that. Then you take more cheddar cheese. Then he put Bacon. Put all the fixings on top. You throw some honey mustard. You got the Cage Burger only available at Boulevard Burgers and tap house on Saint P beach. It's fifty nine zero five of Golf Boulevard. Now I know a lot of you. Listen all over the world we saw some rankings. This week were shown up Australia. In Great Britain and Ireland and Canada were everywhere and of course all across the US. So I know a lot of you. Were not in the Tampa Bay area when you travel to Tampa Bay get over to Saint Pete Beach and get yourself a cage Burger at Boulevard Burgers and tap house and let them know that cage tension. Now let's go ahead and get on with this do showy his former wwe superstar and original. Brian Her Front Aka. The Blue meany and my first match was comical. I Mash podcast host Jesse Jessica Hari. So you've known my guest today as the blue meaning you've heard him poking fun at Scott Hall and the Bureau as Dump Blue Guy it total Dick as blue boy and the incredibly creepy blue dust there for a second. Wwe welcomes the first match of the coolest cats that I've ever met in this business Brian. Half Ron what's up dude? I don't know if I live up to build up their man I just didn't know how seriously thank you man. That was awesome. I'll send you to pay pal for the intro there if you do select vm. Or whatever the whatever the whatever the cost of doing a great inter like that I will it? I appreciate that. Thank you and my parents. Thank you and so on the mind and the meaning. I think it was a couple of weeks ago. You had said that you are the might of the meeting by the way. Brian'S PODCAST GO CHECK IT OUT. It is bad ass putting again but you had said that you think about time travel a lot. You wanted to go back in time. So I'm here to do that for your brother first batch. Yeah we're jumping the DELOREAN. We're going back in time. I WANNA to go way back man way back to when you're a kid and Just give me a little background about where you grew up in in. We're your love of wrestling came from. I grew up while I was born in Philly And when I was about to my family Moved over to New Jersey for a little bit my What my mom and my grandparents and my grandfather worked in Jersey so just made sense of move over there. He worked in a chemical plant for like thirty five years. Or something like that. by One day I was at my house in Jersey I lived at Small Town Gloucester right over the bridge from Philly and There's a Philadelphia phillies game on. I go to my next door neighbor. Unlike eight seventy eight and I go to my friend next kate. My Buddy Sean. I go he showing you all come over watch. Phillies game now man While he didn't say man he said man how how what what. They put in his breakfast that day. But Chill Bro. Do now I so I say you come over. Watch phillies games like now. I'm watching the wrestling. I went well. What's wrestling I'd never heard of wrestling and as come watch it in? My house comes over and we watched like an hour of wrestling but the first match I only match I remember from the entire show is Rick Martel and Tony Gra losing. W W W W W F TAG team titles to Mr Mr Saito from that point. I was like Nah. That's amazing. That's I'm hooked. That's awesome so every I would watch every week and As time goes on I've find out my mom really wasn then to it but my grandparents my grandmom start telling me stories about the legend of a hat pin. Mary lay the old lady who sent front row wrestling matches and stick the bad guys to heels and S. What the hat penn chief one day. We're watching the WWF. They had the old rodgers corner and every segment with nature. Boy Buddy Rogers interview. People like pre Piper's pit and all that stuff grandfather walks in a room goes. I know him. Yeah whatever. Stop a buddy rogers. I was like well well. Well apparently My grandfather by well buddy rogers from a small town right across the river from Philly Cole came to New Jersey. A graph explains that Buddy was a new. I came to New Jersey police officer before his wrestler real name Herman Detroit's and he was the bouncer doorman at a bar. My grandfather used to go to so they knew each other. So the pre wrassling flash FORD GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE? I go to an AWA TV. Taping Awa was Filming at the Tropicana Atlantic City Buddy Rogers doing color commentary. So I go over go. I'm calmer grandfather's Blah for Excuse me Mister missed nature. Boy Do you remember guy named Jim Reardon Jim From now candidate. Yeah I think about goes well. My grandfather's writer he's road and they hit it off. They had it fugger and conversation right from like the most bizarre thing as a kid you know. I got it anything my grandfather ever said. Again you know but Just you know that connection with my grandparents liking wrestling me liking wrestling and it was just an escape Kind of misfit growing up which later in my career. We're kind of payoff but Just like I grew up severe asthmatic. Complain all the other kids reindeer games and stuff like that. So you know kids. Are you know outplaying I'm getting blown up time shoes. You know sure and I tried out for. Sports has allergic to grass on the field. I couldn't do anything so wrestling was my escape. Every spring and every fall I would be in the hospital. Two weeks at a time When change of season change apollinaire? My asthma was allergy activated. So you know apollinaire. With trigger miasma. My wife and her family had to move down. She was living Connecticut and her was so bad that they moved to Florida because of the humidity I guess is better for your lungs and all that stuff so I know all about that man all about that. It's it's the worst. It's the worst man to when you can't breathe. You feel it. They the the best description of always hurt as it's like you're trying to breathe through a straw just horrible as a kid and you don't know what's going on in you know you wake up at night to check on you in K got. Take Brian the hospital again. Because he's having trouble breathing craziness so at that point you're seventy eight years old you're getting into wrestling is at that point your head. You're like this is what I'm going to do even though you know. You're struggling with sports. You because of your long as you couldn't get out and do it. The other kids were doing. Did you know in your head though? I want to be a wrestler at that point or was it just. I was interesting at that. Point to be an astronaut. Or I want to be a fireman. I would've fucking pro wrestler man. Well before I saw progressing told my momma grandma I wanted to be at a truck driver house like a truck driver. I to draft and I'll I'll mail the money home. I swear to you I all this stuff all this shit. It's stuff kids say and once I saw person that's be prowrestler like that's that's that's cute that's nice and it wasn't told. I drove off to wrestling school. You know and Ninety Four. I guess he areas so yeah so fast forward. You're going up. You're getting ready to go out to wrestling wrestling school. And we'll talk about Al Snow School here in a second by what were their thoughts. I guess they were wait for me to kind of like back out of it. The idea there those like okay. Uh-huh sure go ahead. I dare you almost I. It's like that you know A graduate high school eight again being as Matica. I missed so much school. They had to keep me back for absenteeism. So you know show graduate was eighteen. I graduated with twenty which sucks for me but I've the oldest guy in class. We could probably beer without an ID so the hit it a party. So King Man. Yeah Hey Bri welcomed ordering assembler. I felt so used I graduated high school and I went to work in the casinos for a little bit and Every paycheck you know split it fifty fifty two of my grandparents have an actor and I save that's how say from wrestling tuition and once Well GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE. I you know in high school I would read the newsletters and I would read. Meltzer would read Wade Keller and all that stuff and I was reading the Observer one week and he would have like David have the classifieds you know and they had a thing for wrestling schools. Malinche goes are you know one week there monster factors try? I went and had to try out the Mazda factory and head Banger. Thrasher and this is like the day after Wrestlemainia Indiana. Whichever that one was I'm Bedouin numbers I had to try out the Mazda. Factory me and my grandfather went. Grandfather watched and out of maybe ten people who tried out that day me and like Larry. Sharpe was there Dennis Core Louisa. Was there of the ten people who tried out that day. Like me to others got called into room. Hey you know you know. The day dismissed everybody else and kept us three and said gave us all the particulars and all that stuff and I sat on that for a little bit. I WANNA finish high school. And I saw the thing for In The Observer and they were having their separation for the Malenka school in Tampa and ib had become a huge Malekkos. Milenko Brothers Marne because I had been on a a trip in Memphis wrestling. Nur trip to go see the US. W for weekend. And they had this loop of matches and the British bulldogs against the Milenko on there. And I was like man. These MALANGAS are mazing. Fell in love with them. As Dude I want to go to their school mosser factories closer but this is awesome man in the back of my head. I think I needed to get the farthest away from my family for this to be successful because if I had come home with like bruises and welts my grandmoms Ninja with Catholic ill so I think she would've guilted me into the stopping whereas if I went as I if I go away. And she doesn't see any OUTTA sight outta mind. I think I'll have a better chance. But Lo and behold something happened with Milenko 's and The woman who I was corresponding with Lantos was this woman named Phyllis Lee she worked worked with Boris Right Ham and she spear wrestler. She helped get X. Puck into business. Well ex park was already there. He's like the the test dummy for all these moves and Phyllis goes to Boris. Ira The kids already here. Why don't you just train them? And that's why you know. X PAC went on to become a professional wrestler. So she's helping me with Malekkos like it's like I was going to move to Florida. Had A you know friends of down there already as you know they can show me around but like the cost of living is going to have the save up a little bit more. I think it was like six hundred bucks for like a room somewhere and she was like well. there's an alternative same amount tuition but there's a wrestler and Ohio. Al Snow same tuition and to live at the. You'll be living in school. It's like one hundred fifty a month as opposed to six hundred from wherever you're going to stay to Monaco's I'd start. I started hearing about Al School through The newsletters because he was having this great feud with Seibu Him in Sabah. Were you know it's kind of like you know how the the Rock and Hunter Kinda came up through? Wwe these guys. I've been around. You Know Sabah. Anelle had been around forever. But it wasn't 'til these these this series of matches they were having. That was getting all this attention. Through tape trading elect stuff. They start building directly up on the indies and stuff like that and said. I sent her my money and we made a date and I packed up my car and drove off to Ohio. So that was body slammers right. That was Alice. Place was body slam body slammers pro wrestling scam. Sorry I with new math. The math betrayed the mind that Amini so many times. Al Snow's body slammers pro wrestling gym in beautiful downtown Lima. Ohio Lima Ohio. Okay so you're talking. Tampa Bay or Lima Ohio. And the funny I went some Linkohr's when Dean was running the school in like ninety eight I was living in West Palm Beach Florida and I had dropped out of college. I wanted to wrestle so went over to Malinche goes and trained for a little bit but then my knees portrayed may so it wasn't going to work out so yeah I'm getting that way now but yeah but there's a big difference between Tampa Bay and Ohio. I've I've gotten on an airplane in Tampa Bay and landed in Ohio before I stayed in Designs Ville for about a week and I'm not a very good looking guy. I was a great fucking look guy in Ohio. With all due respect you are Ohio podcast. Del Voters Dude. Lima Ohio the the locals there said Lima stood for lost in mid America. The acronym for Lima but in Lima was the hip thing to do. Oh my God we were. We lived around the block from this like theater and it was like a concert. Venue Saturday nights go over there and line dance. I guess it's just Make Fun of it but it you know it's it's probably the best year my life to change of scenery It it built up a callous for you know working at different parts of the country but it was interesting to say the least so you get the body slammers and you start bumping around like again. It time travel if I if I had a time machine I went back and said he work on your cardio before the wrestling school. Don Don. Don't wait till you get to the restaurant school do work on your cardio work bit before you get there and you'll have no idea until you get in that ring and your boss enough those robes back and forth. How fast that you get gassed? I mean and I was. I felt like I was in great cardiovascular shape when I got to Milenko 's bullshit I was shape in shape. And then there's ring shape and whole good Lord. Well here's a good Comparisons like we get there and You know the first week there aboard entering broke and or a couple of boards broke wherever AL GOES TO THE LOCAL HARDWARE STORE. Well the schools on the seventh and eighth sixth and seventh floor and these boards aren't going up the elevator so we had to carry these. These long twenty foot boards strategically up the stairs and I add sucking wind. I am collapsing against the wall. I am you go for a drink of water and it's just going down my shirt. I'm like you know blown up Chris Farley style and Flash Ford couple months into the training another board breaks this time it's just me and out bringing the boards up and we're just lightly jogging up the steps. He looks you notice. You're not sucking on was like a long way kid. It was was the moment where the light went over my house like. Oh well yeah. I'm in better shape now than I was why I guy here. So that was a testament to the training working. How much training with Al You hear stories about a lot of different schools. A lot of different techniques. When Blanco's it was e- you learn how to Russell before you. You did anything you did all the matter staff and then slowly start hitting the robes and then you know months later get on the top rope and you're doing all that kind of stuff. How IS TRAINING WITH AL? Was it one of those. People are showing up and bailing out. Because he's kicking everybody's ass or was it a slow bring along type of situation. Al Was Very I guess. The best word is methodical. You learned one thing. You didn't go into next thing. Until you perfected that that first thing and cooling he had He had date morning classes. And then well mid morning classes and then later on like seven o'clock and I have night classes and I'm living at the gym so I'm doing to. I'm I was a football player. You call two days so I'd work out with the morning class. And even and he would have guys driving down from Canada Detroit. guys coming over from Indiana couple of hour drive from everywhere basically so I got. This is my first time. Interacting with folks from all over the place candidate Indiana alleged stuff and guitar in whatever and I would be working out in the morning and I remember my first workout as clear as day Just a simple get Narang. KNEEL DOWN PUT my hands down like a yoga position but my forehead to the Matt. get up on the balls of my feet kicked one leg over and you know almost like a yoga hit. Hanson and then this talk my Chin and let my body. Take the bump right. I do that and I am destroying like my my heels are hitting instead of flat. It's flights on my feet like so like this is going on. I'm kind of like starting to feel it my shots. I do take a bump. I roll out a ring powder I go into the Commons area and I just sit there and stare at the wall second. I'll give me a few minutes. Then he walks in sits next tomatoes. Okay what's wrong? Just talk and talk to you and yet. Utah is a look. I've been there two at this point. Had he had been in business thirteen years. He's like the gathering the try it again. He wasn't like this drill sergeant. He wasn't a ball breaker. You know he was compassionate. You Know He. And that's why I say became my big brother because I would. This is my first time away from the the the family nest You know and smithson home A month into training. I got a call from my mom that my grandfather had cancer and She's like Grandpa sick but he said don't come home to what you gotTa do a this. Is Your your your goal. You stay there so I was weighing on my mind to During the these training sessions and stuff like that. I had no choice but to get better in ring because I was missing time at home and my grandfather who essentially was dying but from like I said he thirty-five years working at a chemical plant. He had gotten asbestos in the lungs and is affecting them throughout the years so he was my hero and to watch the strongest man. I know you know. Kinda just at a at a weakness like A. I can't think of the word like a volatile or whatever you know just not way. It's like the Dave Girl Song. There goes my hero. He's ordinary you know. Grandfather ordinary the strongest man. He's he was my popeye. You know he was like you know. I wonder cavs big. Yeah I would never complain about being sick or he just went to work. Came home. Drink is beer and sounds like my dad. My Dad Bagel Italian do look like Tony Soprano. And unfortunately he passed away a almost two years ago now but it was the same thing to to see him and I was there when he passed to see this big bear of a Man. That was scared of my data. Revered my Dad Right. I mean but he was guy who I know could knock me through a wall if he fucking wanted to but to see this guy be frail in again human in ordinary and while. This is goosebumps. I it's just it's sobering. It really shows you what life is and how fragile life is no matter how big grandiose or beyond the wrestlemainia stage or any other things most all of us are going to end up in that bed and it's just a very sobering sobering. I mean we're all GONNA end up dead but to be laid up like that you know. I hope like bagging. My wife out of a massive coronary yourself. I don't know that that's going to be the case. Any notable cats that you were training with when you got else man. There's so many I like. I said if if they felt tough enough when AL school would have had to been on. Hbo It was just this Goofy Shit that we did and I went to drive. Dowse knows wrestling school the day after. Us Mania ten massive square garden so the next morning. I'm driving have a couple of hiccups along the way eventually. Get to Lima. And then I guilt elegant the sixth floor. Hi I'M BRIAN FROM JERSEY. Here to see is asked now here and then out comes up because hi Brian. I'm al. I'm leaving you had to drive to like Michigan. Go get like pads for the ring from Dan. Severn or something like that. I was like Oh boy so I'm sitting there with the rest of the students and there's a dude named Pete. The pirate who very interesting Guy Older Gentleman. He had the The Cul de sac haircut. Where it's like you know. They're harangued aside lately balding on and there another guy a the lumberjack Very interesting fellow Very obsessed with other people's heights like if he was next next to somebody taller standard and do the thing with his hand and tried to like. He's a big guy. Free Buddy. How as from Canada Buddy? Tarya six to right just like how all the people that you do. Voices for sound like your buddy who invited you to watch wrestling it. All COMES FULL CIRCLE MED. That do yeah. He's Canadian. He's polite so watch wrestling. Hey Big guy being our would always break balls you we me outstanding Corner Room and watch him I up other people to see how tall they were He had this weird obsession with being taller and other people and then Pete. The pirate was like. Hey you WanNa watch me practice my ring entrance a Mike. Why not and so. What's IT Pete? The pirates ring entrance like. Oh my God he dude. He was forty and nine thousand nine hundred ninety four so I can't imagine where he is at now but glasses that like. If he read a map he could see people waving to him and just thick thick lassus over. Like I don't know what it was he had to. He looked like What's his face times of Ridgemont high with the pirate and or Yeah a bit but Came out to a song by Kansas. That had song the had to do with pirates or sailing. I don't know so I watched it. I sat there. I was like I almost packed. My car. Up and throwback to Lennox man. What am I gonNA end too so we just hung out and I was me Pete. The pirate the LUMBERJACK. And there's more who has Seibu protege Abu. Because they're both from Michigan and Seibu give him a GIG IN W has a referee and he became like the Guy. The referee W that nine one one kept choke slamming Because just because he sold it so well and like he would take go skinny dude so he you know almost lift them up to the. Ceo Nutty Serena Slam through the ring. And look like a murder him and stuff like that so my first night at our school. I didn't even train Like I said I became familiar with the lumberjack. And I watch pete the pirates ring entrance at but it was Steve Peewee more. Who's hey let me show you around? Lima so all right. So we hopped in his car in that week pin terrorist far beyond driven had. Just come out. He's like. I got the new Pan Terry. Put that in the thing and we're just driving around Lima listening to pay. Terry's like all right. Yes yes. And he's like over. Here's the local this and that and we go to the store called Myers or whatever the local is like it was like their low version of Super K Mart where he can buy fishing equipment and groceries. And whatever you want you know I'll go pick up the new madden or something like that. Is that kind of superstore and You know he showed me around and then then the next day we roll around and That's when I became you know started trying trainer with Al and stuff like that. So you got pete the pirate. You got the LUMBERJACK. When you're getting started I know you had names in your head of who you wanted to be of who you saw in the ring. And you had gimmicks worked out. Give us a couple of those early gimmicks that was kicking around or maybe some names that were kicking around your head. Were sitting around and this is fucking horrible. I bought dropped a couple please please. I've got the little E. next to it so we can say whatever the fuck man fucking horrible so one time Lake City. I met a chick on the boardwalk and she made like an offhand remark. Saying I looked like Emilio Estevez at the time. So Oh yeah man. That's a pretty fucking cool. Yeah Kinda got the heart moving and stuff like Oh Amelia. Yeah so so that stuck with me and I was like I can be Brian Estevez or and that lasted one match. That lasted my get match. You know spoiler alert that lasts at one match because I said to my grandma yeah. I'm call myself brightness. She's like you're not Mexican. Say well that does make sense. She had no idea who amelio estimate was sure but she's on. It was on a man. She's like psychology here. You son of a bitch. Let's go yeah. I can your blue eyed blonde. I got bobby mullet. You know so. We were kicking her and then like I am looking through magazines. Serves the name. There's a name Brian Saint John. I was like that sounds pretty good. Brian Saint John. You know Y- do the fifty fifty with the hand like that's kind of cool. You know warn wrestling to work out. You go right to porn. Brian St John's a porn name. Dude you're in and it turned out there. A announcer and Memphis named Brian. Saint John I was like so I thought you know you always think you're the first with something Yeah the first time flash for DC W is coming out the war machine by kiss. He's a young brother. Loved the song machine by kiss and the big old goes Memphis and TESCO. He just has to play Thought he was the warmest and then bigalow know popped up bubble butt kicking around aims wrestled as like Bryson John so I was going to wrestle for blue. I know we're talking about my first match but were since we're talking about names surrounded. It's a time machine bro. And go forward and backwards doesn't matter exactly. It's like Tarantino Movie Fletch. For you know later Seibu would run chose and he would do strictly else no students because he didn't want to have the same guys that everybody else was using and I it was cool. You know because it would give me exposure which eventually helped me when the because he bring him Paulie and Tasr and dreamer so I went to be they already knew me from these Michigan's but Seibu peewee peewee more than like the Brian Saint John. Let's think of another name and we're just you know kicking around the the school and He got audiotapes area. Know like I said he was in the Pan. Tara is like there's like Henry rollins shape like what about Brian Rollins? That's got a good ring to well. Good ring name to it and Eventually I went for. Brian Saint John the Brian Rollins but For my first match is Brian as and And stuff like that. It was like before the Blue Menia was our then. I was a genius. Obviously because one day Al took us all to go. Get Our rain gear and There's this place called. Ah which is about two hours away from body slammers Eliah and they made they made all the WTI. They were the gear people to go to. They made bret heart earthquake. Everybody and we go on this class. Yeah I called a declares trip to go get our gear by this Little House. Middle Ohio and in a garage to have sewing machines. You know the spoils of materials and stuff on walls. There's eight by tens from like the hockey dog manner earthquake and every year. Br Harwood Send Christmas card. It would have himself in the family dressed up in his gear. And you know there was. Send them a Chris Chris. So you're seeing all the stuff in a law and you're just forget your there the by guarantors market now for the stuff on the wall but They would have like a been of gear that people who ordered and then pay for so they just grab grab bag. You know so. I'm looking through to ski on the gear thing. I find a nice single. That's cool. I don't wear trunks. Our singlet and found these paired legs leaper print like SPANDEX. Shorts was like where these underneath it because was a Mark Zoo. Basel I was like I. Here's here's here's genus Consi- about like hobby this Hebrew kid. Oh which you know High Tech Shit. I'm ahead of my time or whatever saying turns out there already zebra kid in pro wrestling disobedience. Somebody else found some trunks. Let's Zebra charge. Like I could do this. I'll be zebra kid somewhere. Alternate UNIVERSE A guy. Not named Brian Estevez. But I you know I had. I bought the singlet. I bought the trunks and There was another company back in the day. If you wanted to get your boots made. There's a company called B. boots which stood for bill boots. Black Bill Ash was a professional wrestler. And then once he had. Nfl career started making boots for the boys. And I think he was out of a Arkansas. And you would just you know trace your foot on a piece of paper measure your ankle your calf all that stuff send it off and then later on a couple of months a month later you got yourself a brand new pair boots or get so. I you know I had like the you know the KNA H Gear and boots. I was I was set right. Dried Estevez's looking good man real queue up the sharp dressed man on the Bam Bam Bam and so Brian Estevez. That was the ring name. That was your first match. You you use efforts match theme of the show for let's talk about. Let's talk about that first match. Well I should call it the for show because I was going to have the match. I was Al School. I was training has come along and start training in March around. May or June The lumberjack Was going to run a show in his hometown where he was going to be the hometown hero and he goes. Hey Buddy runa show. He wanted to be on it. We'll have your first match make. Yeah why not? He has nervous. I'm like why he's like. You're going to be thousands of people there and this is you know my first lesson in a promoter being full of Shit like thirty people in the crowd so the show is going to be in Alma. God I won't say Kitchener Ontario Canada or no or Chatham A -Tario Canada those on -Tario and Sure and Ch He booked Mainly How students and he was going to. Of course of course he was gonNA put himself in the main event And he's going to wrestle this Gentleman named Judge Dredd who was also one of Sabu's proteges Sabah. Judge dredd wrestled and FM. W They'd same town. They grew up together. Train together. At and Seibu brought him over to F. I'M W big dude. Eventually I you know have a match with one match with him over an w because he brought him in EC- before shower too. Well you know the the lumberjack was going to wrestle and of course go over on judge Dredd so needless to say neither. Sabu were judge. Dredd showed up for the show so I was. You know going to have my scheduled match but then later on tonight we're GONNA have our version of the Royal Rumble. Where the lumberjack was going to be the hometown hero and have his big victory. And all this stuff right so Brian ESA was go ahead. Let's just say thirty. People hoisting him up on their shoulders. Just marching around the teeny arena. Wait till I get to that story. I get to that story and somewhere. I got photos of this. Show somewhere So you know he's like a You're going to wrestle this guy. Let me stop doing the voice. It Hurts Jesus. Christ let me get a sip of coffee here. Let me Super copy the apocalypse man. You have you've set a bar now with the voice. I don't know that you can't do the voice I mean. Come on our you quick sidebar to the lumberjack. We all lived at school like it asked no school. We'll get back to my match but also school was like an old Masonic Temple Mike Masonic call. It's two floors. The ring where we trained looked like a miniature Manhattan center where they used to do raw. There's the balcony around. There was a stage with seating where fans so it's like they took the Manhattan Center shrunk it but if you come up to elevators before you go to the where you train where the now auditory is hung right. There's a TV Commons area. Good next thing there's kitchen there's If you made a left Al elevators office then a line of bedrooms you know if you want a crash for tonight and up on Florida's a row of CAFE BEDROOMS. You know that you know the fans couldn't get to or anything like that. So guys would stay at the school instead of like coming down from Canada or if they want to get a week in training you know Steph driving back and forth. They would stay for the week. So guys would put food in the fridge and the lumberjack with eat other people's food what has it can move man right and guys are like. Hey Man I bought this food. I bought it for me. Please don't eat my food. He's like hey made the fridge. Fair Game Bro. Fair game so we're like what the fuck so Us Stephen Students. A student named Steve Nixon Great Guy. Great Wrestler Hellevik. He could have been held occurs away a great guy. I can't I wish more people could seen him and stuff like that. He Stayed Michigan him in this other. Guy Jimmy Jimmy V. Went on to be a personal. He's still personal trainer for The biggest loser one of his students on biggest loser and stuff like that so he does great stuff with fitness. But you know where the other students in the gym. Fuck this guy can keep getting our fuck of Food Steve Nixon and the guys plan make this plan. They make a pie a chocolate pie and put ex lax in pie so One Night Airways training and Steve Worked at a Folks home don't stuff like that so You know Steve Walks in goes. Hey guys you know working at the home. I brought some pies and stuff like that and lumberjack. Perks right the fuck up and goes. Hey Steve what kind of pie he goes. So you know chocolate right on right on cool so training the night session fans and he did lumberjack. Just leave ring like he eliminated from battle royal and just he does. He wasn't known for changing his workout clothes afterwards and even heavy sweater and by he goes right for the fridge and has a slice of pie and stuff like that and Well actually this is the morning session because we had a show that night so he has a slice of Pie and he's eating it and we're we're all like like look like a motherfucker goes back for a second slice. Oh Shit Oh man now so long story short we go on this when you go on this trip and we all load in House van. They're like two vans. We'RE STOPPING OFF SOMEWHERE TO PICK UP AL's brother a con. Who was going to join us. As we're going from Lima to Dayton and we stopped off the pickup AL's brother at this rest up and a lumberjack distort out of this van Iran's into the rest of the rest stop he goes et Al. I used to bear Rick Scott loose spring and his vantage shaken else. And he's in there for like twenty minutes eventually like to. We got to get to the building. Let's you know. Let's let's go right so get to the building. Jumps out of the van runs right to the bathroom. And it's just like it's like dumb. And dumber when he feeds them the the Colin Blower Colin blow. So we get and then. He's in a battle royal and everybody's in on ribs so it's slam the lumberjack time. Pick THEM UP BODY SLAM POON around patterns out goes into The Locker Room hops. The does his business takes a shower. We'd load in and drive back to Lima and he runs. He runs up. You know the goes up to elevate the rental the bathroom now. We knew this is a possibility so we hit the fucking toilet paper in the bathroom so he runs an Arab east on his business and didn't here guys to who can't hear him so he does like the gingerbread man. Walk down the hall guys anybody here. There's no tolliver acres. It goes bathroom because coffee filters and then so lumberjack who is still now easily. Lovable guy but big okay. So he runs to show where I'm going to have my first match any does the. Hey buddy nervous you're going to be three thousand fans and all that stuff we get to the building and you know. It's getting torture Tom. Looking to open the doors. They're like the doors are open. I was like Oh so Here's Ed where the story comes full circle as well as my first match is against a guy named Geza. Common who at the time was wrestling as the Kodiak Kodiak or Kodiak Kodiak bear on the east coast is Kodiak in Michigan but he also trained at Melendez he lived at down in Tampa he trained with the mind goes and all that stuff so the guy who was supposed to go to MOLUCCAS and train instead went to train with Al is now snow scenes wrestling. Malingco schoo- student also so we kinda bonded over the fact domes went to my Linkohr's eventually me and Geza went Went on you know former tag team for a little bit there. 'cause we we had a similar look and stuff like that and it was just. It was exciting time. I told my you know my grandparents. I was going to wrestle At this time I you know my grandfather's sick. I'm still making I would like what's a month. I would make a drive from Lima back to link the family. But you know you know coincidentally per well went on purpose. I would schedule around. W show so I would go home for the week. See the family Saturday rolls around. I go to an ECB shown right after the show. I drive right back to Ohio. You know for like thirteen hour so You know and then my first show comes up and tell my family and like I get a poster to show I mail it back home and all this stuff and then I had the match and the match itself was anything spectacular because as Super Super Green. I start training March. This was in June grasso couple months and Geza was really good at making me. Look strong We're kind of us as ring music and being at UCLA. Mark always loved when nine one one come would come out of. The show slammed people to Edgar Winter's Frankenstein. How come out to that you know and I looked like a kid on. Christmas is a May come out. You know The warring thunder of thirty people you know slap at hands kissing babies all up and we have the match and I have it somewhere but I refuse to watch it just because you know when I watch any of my matches I just look for the the you know the worst part and I eat myself up alive and I'm like Oh my God. This is horrible. I don't know maybe we have you back on at some point. We do a watch along with that. Match was the first match with the film. Doesn't accidentally purpose the strong man if I find it if I find it. It's recorded now that they had this that is that is that is a contract. You decide with me but Yeah the match went match went. Well he carried me the entire match and our kind enough to let me have a in my first match And normally Al probably would have had me lose. But he knew I've sent in this match back home to folks he knew My grandfather was sick and just to give them a little bit of you know excitement. You know with the dire situation of me being there and stuff like that so The match well it was just one of those basic you know he gays a charged them for the a big splash. I moved out of the way school. Boy them up one two three get out of the ring. Raise my hands and celebrate and myself like a lot of people show. This show didn't have guardrails or anything so I rolled out. I go to head back to locker room. But there's no guardrail this show me Gar. Worthwhile is so I start heading to the front of the building where the entrance where the marks come through. And I'm no no the other way to other people who are also having their first match on the show pretty much did the exact same thing and like that and then like I said lumberjack was supposed to wrestle. Judge Dredd so we're going to have this royal rumble which is technically my second match by my first show so you know since we're already here talking about the show ended. Lumberjack and the lumberjack is just like what am I going to do when I'm I going to do well? We'll have this royal rumble. You'll win. Whatever but he like he's going around me to people. Hey guys let's do this. Hey guys and we're all just like what the fuck man and you know as me hours in it. Scott d'amore impact was in it. He had been in business like five years at the time he was on the show A few other people offic Dan. Several was on this one but We're like fuck it. When his music hits and he comes Lorraine Growth Rome right the fuck out so he says this whole thing up for him to go over by the way right. It's it's his show where he was gonNA put himself in. The main event beat judge dredd in his hometown. Front two thousands of people minus twenty seven hundred seventy of them and then And then like they know show because they knew this guy was gonna put one hour so they you know now he's going to win this battle. Royal being insufferable about it. So he He was a lumberjack so he came out to jackals lumberjack and ran ran ran ran ran. Of course he did. Of course he did so. We're all in the ring I'm down on my back selling and it's either Scott the more or one of the other guys choking me this battle. This whole thing was like a big goofy thing like what am I single. Add like a pair trunks. Al pulled my trunks off and put them over my head and he's got found. There's a photo me when my chunks trunks over my face getting choked out by or whatever so you know five four three two Barabara and so we're all we all got the side. I own Apron. He comes up. He comes down. He slapping hands. He's the hometown hero. He gets up on the Apron puts his leg through the rope and everybody stops what they're doing into starts rape forum shit. I'll probably broke. All K- K was destroyed. We just got them. And we're thrown out and you hear Echos guys supposed to win guys guys and through and he standard ago. He's standing on outside. A you know wide eyed mouth open. Gosh he goes into the Locker Room. He goes somebody. I'M GONNA go back out there. Somebody gave me a mask or like right. So you're going to put on a mask wearing the same gear. Nobody's going to know as we ain't give me a man so eventually he. He thought gays my opponent. I was like the culprit behind his runs. Entering and shoot eliminates Geza. And they start brawling around ringside. Or whatever like that. But it's one of those stories that we have me and now still talk about to this day where you know right like the music hadn't even stop before his feet hit the ground here like go. That's amazing yeah. That's that that's Casper. Show dude that's a kick apps for show you and over you take the promoter at. That's when I kinda knew I was always growing up I was always in apar- part of the the misfit class Whether would be in grade school and the teacher from across the hall. Come to have to ask our teacher to help us. Keep it down because they couldn't study because we were too rowdy so I got in the Restaurant Business. I guy around you know. I worked in casinos working graveyard shift with those misfits looking for loose change on the floor. You know just you know you. You figure any movie like slap shy or major league and stuff like that. I've lived at Daas weather in grade school or working to see knows the wrestling business of always been up around characters that and I always find myself attracted people were characters. Where whether they're full of Shit or not you know it just. I've genuine people to sure like yourself and But like the business is giving me more than I've ever asked for it. I never made a million dollars financially but I got paid royalty royally Ian Experience in good friendships and stuff like that. What would you say your favorite moment in the business to date is for you that thing that just stands above everything else like the million dollar question there There's so much cool stuff between you know. I mean the first big thing I really got to do was be a part of Mick Foley Fair wealthy. Cw He he was so kind to me. It's Stevie to have us be a part of that era ascend now. His last moment in the release w was with me and him and he used us to play a rebel in the crowd where he did this whole big speech of you know the People. I bring guys out here. They're innovators one. He's building up like he's Gonna. Bring Todd and Paul out. He goes the Blue Stevie Richardson. We'd just run out and we do. The you know the Rockets Ken Ken as they're playing New York New York and stuff like that and we Fargo Strut out building. I mean I've seen the video obviously and I mean just do so fucking cool man. I'm a year and a half in the business and I'm in my hometown. Fed and what promotion you know back in the day we we called every promotion of the is but I mean my hometown fed in my in my hometown. You know literally two minutes from my house entering with Mick Foley and my career has just begun and it. That kind gesture of him. Doing that. Legitimate made me look legit and the eyes of the W. Fan Yeah I wasn't just some Schlub. They you know they brought out and stuff like that Just the fact. I was paired with Raven Stevie to mean was bidding big street. Cred with W fans but for the you know I was already had that way but for Mick to bring us out and do that whole spiel. In his last appearance I mean. He's literally wearing his mankind boots in the ring. You know breaking them in any CW and you know he's working. Mikey and know had this big emotional match big emotional farewell and he decided to have us. A part of it was storybook. That's surreal dude. I mean it's just surreal crazy. Yeah so so I mean between that. And the WWW. And I gotTa do have my wrestlemainia while my only wrestlemainia moment moment in my hometown of Philadelphia debuted for being Philadelphia debut for WWe in Philadelphia wrestlemainia moment in Philadelphia in the city. I was born. I mean what more can you ask? That's amazing what's your goals here for the next year once we get through all this shit that's happening in the world right now. What your goals. I mean we're GONNA see back in the ring again maybe Swamp zombies you jump in for the third installment what. Here's a funny story a dude. I did the movie swamp Zombie with Dan. Severn right was the end and somebody else. That will talk about a minute. We that's good we don't have to. I don't speak name just because I'm afraid it'll show up like beetlejuice good. I boldly went where I remain went before. And I don't need to revisit that but Swamp zombies There's a great director out of Erie Pennsylvania Kapuscinski and he had me in swamp zombies so it turns out he went and had swamp zombies who swamp zombies to again the mouth And I'm looking through it and there's my buddy from eighth grade in high school. My Buddy Justin Daniels is in the movie swamp zombies to like somebody I grew up with. He's Justin Daniels Amazing Guitar Player. He Ban Kha our say like Like a groove metal band called Solace here out of New Jersey. I'll send you some stuff. Really get stuff They tore overseas all that good stuff. Well he gets put the movie. I'm like how serendipitous is that like somebody. I went to grade school with I've in the first one. He was in the sequel. Not knowing that we both knew len. It's like I've had. I've had so many instances in my life where like forget six degrees of Kevin Bacon six degrees of meany. Where like Oh my God? How do you know these people How my friends Know Each Other? I didn't even know they knew each other until like some kind of face. It's such a small world man. It is such a small world I remember talking to Wyndham to Bray Wyatt in. Guess you had run into. This is years ago now. You had run into him at a show and you brought me up like Jesse. And so he came back. He's like he's like. I didn't know you knew Brian. I'm like yeah it was like you. We've been buddies text buddies for years. Now you know because I was a total fucking mark and you know luckily wizard commit your Heroes Man Mitchell heroes because blue meany Brian. Have Ron one of the coolest like I said the beginning one of the coolest fucking dudes now this because you you make sure that you take care of your people in you can see that. It's not just for a radio guy or for a pod you know because I'm not a radio guy anymore but for a podcast guy. You still took the time to do this to to give me over an hour of your time and that's got a lot going on even though everything's kind of shut down. You still got a lot going on. You're doing other podcasts. Speaking of let's go back to my to the meany Josh Shirt off. Who is your co host on the show? Yes An and this is not a bad thing. So don't don't take this bad and I don't want him to take this bad either but whenever I listen to the show. He sounds like Max from goof troop and it's and it's one of my favorite shows an. I Still Watch Pawn Disney plus right. I watched it last night again. I love goof troop an electric goofy movies. I'm just a Disney mark but same. He sounds like Max from goof troop and you're welcome because that's all you're going to hear now every time you talked man cursed it you curse it. But he's not rate he does such a great job. You guys do such a great job. Thank you so much. A you know People have always said to me when you go to a podcast. It's either when you go into a podcast when you're gonNA write a book because I got stories but I go to write a book and then something distracts me go. There's a Goldfish You know something to throw me off track or stuff like that but and I say this you know to every young wrestler you. Are you represent who breaks you in or who you're associated with? Al Snow broke me in everything. I do. Good or bad reflects on snow so I do some good. Hey Your Kid Day. Good do bad they go. Hey man what's up your boy boy right so I'm like if I'm going to a podcast. I need somebody that a. I can not only have a good conversation with but I don't have to worry about them going out into the world or social media and saying something stupid because then that comes back home may came any. What's up with your your guy here. What's he doing right so speaking? Amel W Less MSW show here in Philly Josh was that and I seen Josh all the time. We're always conventions and stuff like that. He'll interview me. He was doing stuff with Bill Apter and we always had a good rapport. And he's he's real quick witted is really funny east east fluid and sarcasm like me and just we always hit it off and there was one moment. He's he's doing a show for EMEL. W right now I mean For TV search Josh Off. And we're doing an interview and then after interview goes. Hey Man I ask you this question. I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. I didn't I didn't know if I was being. I felt like I came off as mean-spirited I really didn't mean to being mean spirited as well that was nice of you to say I mean I I didn't take it away but thank you. Thank you for saying that. I appreciate that so one night. I'm driving home. And this whole thing in the podcast is on my head. I go again. A light bulb goes off over my head. I go fucking Josh Josh. It makes perfect sense. He's from he's from Philly We he's viewed countless times. We've always had this great conversation own camera. Why can't translate over to and I talked to other people about doing podcasts. To and they're like what's your format and I I don't I don't WanNA format you know. I don't WANNA I don't WanNA paint myself into a corner. Put myself in the box. You know because you know if you're a show that strictly guest driven you run out of guests. Why don't let's not jinx? It's way too early to jinx. I love doing this week. So don't worry hoping million guests. This is great But I was like dude you know I want to talk strictly wrestling because if the business goes on the dance cycle and I got to talk about stuff that sucks and I'm screwed so I don I want to talk about I. You know talk about wrestling. I love music. I love movies. I love useless trivia. Talk About Sports. Something might trigger like you could say some trigger a thought my head ACA GONA thirty men diatribe about something like there's a couple times during this interview alone. You said things that is like I got hot back because if I if I don't say that it's going to eat away at me. That's why we call the PODCAST MINDED. Amini. It's dude me and Josh. Go and t teach well. I said why not Josh here. I go again shopping around ago. Why Not Josh? I slid into his dams and a K man. You went to a podcast. He's absolutely from the like. He's been a machine. Josh not spend machine he went got everything lined up with the podcast YouTube. The proper paperwork all this stuff and we legit go into each episode enough in the talk about and he he'll do the the the only thing retinas day opening The verbiage welcome to the mind and meaning he goes meaning. What's up and it's the first couple of minutes is like the opening of a match where we're like locking up feeling each other out and listen to the crowd and then like he'll say some and if I if it triggers a I go off on that if I say some he'll think of something and he'll go for that and free no we were like. Oh we'll do. Our last show was like two hours of forty five minutes just because we have chemistry there. And it's it's my goal for this. Podcast is to be a companion piece for those people who are either traveling or you know either on a flight or in a car you know driving down the road for wwe and he cw. Sometimes I'd be driving by myself and you're lonely man. I just need something to stimulate me and you turn on like art bell the old art bell and even whether he believed or knives theater of the mind brilliant dude for radio again me being a radio guy for twenty four years. Yeah I mean guys like are I mean the way he would paint a picture? My fucking God dude. Just amazing and before you know half trips gone and art talk to you through it. And that's my goal you know and you don't have the is. It could be some. You can listen to an hour today or tomorrow with it's there for you and it's just two guys in room talking and you can sit in there like you're Outta Barstool. Listen to guys talk to it. Always just going to say that it feels like was hanging out with your boys. Having a couple beers I listen to you in the morning. I I'll go out and go walk on the beach and just walk up and down the beach and I'll have you guys on. It'll be listening. That's gained a lot so I mean again. It's it's quality man. It's a lot of fun and I'm all about the scattered -ness of it. I mean that's yes this. This is formatted because it's different but all the radio shit when I've talked to on the Radio. I mean this is exactly what I did and factor on still doing. I'm just bringing people on the show now but having that scattered train of thought but then kind of landing someplace and you guys always. Do you find a landing spot and you stick the landing and you move on and I always look forward to the next week so minded the meaning you can find it on all the pod casting platforms iheart in pod being stitcher and I tunes just go. Put in mind of the meany. 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Fire Fauci? No Sports Until 2021? 4.14.20

The Daily Zeitgeist

1:11:09 hr | 1 year ago

Fire Fauci? No Sports Until 2021? 4.14.20

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It's not actually dory from Pixar. A Graders interpretation. Here's I. Don't understand. How do you know unofficial because I watched so much pixar ship, because it looks like something from like seventy science book like? Painted! An official yeah, that's true could be concept turns. Out. Hey could be concept art. These could be early storyboards. That's true. That's true, but yeah. That's a good point. That's a very good point and I apologize for being presumptive of. Presumptuous about your background. Impressed Green, screen. Miles in the the simpsons, catch and his background. Lovin these green screen binary, watching so much simpsons looks like it's like I'm really going I'm trying to recreate. The TV blocked. That would happen in La like after school. That I would watch like Simpson's married with children king of the Hill Malcolm in the Middle News. Mash! But the simpsons have really come through in a big. Back so much. For me. Right. Wing, you knew it was time to turn it off. Yeah, exactly. uh-huh, yeah, no, this this seems entertaining for sure was was Conan ever on like after school, or did my friend just videotape? It and I totally assumed that like we were watching reruns, but I think it was actually he was videotaping. What had on the night before? Shoutout to Brian Basta Goodman. We watched a lot a lot of Conan together early days like I season, Conan was so good like back when they still had pimp your back when it was like real early days like some of some of the really wild shit wasn't even landing with the audience. Right people are like what the fuck you're that Brian Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, early, co! Yeah! Sorry, not a cone with the sword and Xena of the XENA. The Warrior Princess Universe Code Japan. Zara. How are you doing? How are you quarantining? Okay, so I had to Kovic scares. Have you had those where you get like allergies and you're like? Is this it on I've tried to be very like careful the second. The when we were on tour that was when I felt the most vulnerable, because there was a wild where we were on like eight planes in the matter of like. like right towards the end of February and right after that I was very much like any little thing. I thought may have been illness, but now I try not to freak myself out. 'cause I'm pretty good at doing that myself, but then what about like your grocery shopping? You're out and about like getting supplies at times, I assume that expert. Advice that's been given out. We'll keep me safe, so I try not to think too many permutations past what that experts slices sucker Sucker, am I right? Czar he has. My Bank. Scientists. The, scientists of resident and his tweet right about what I need down on. That's what you do is radiate yeah. Dumb dumb I actually had minor covid scare of the weekend where I couldn't smell Actually I'm not going to bring this up because people don't WanNa. Hear about my son's dirty diapers, so. Bring that up, but no sir! I inhaled no matter how deeply. Was No sign of sent. But, people don't want to hear about. I'm just saying that the fact that like the fact that something as subjective as the sense of smell and taste is one of the symptoms is really like really a mind. Fuck because you can the really. It's a thrown off by that. It's funny, though that you say your kid's diaper thing, because now that you say is our. I did early on when I was just very narrowly being like okay. If you can't smell then you've got like I. Free I was like smelling my own armpits deeply. There's no way there's no way this odorless. I'm accusing Her Majesty as a fucking control group I'm like you come here this now. What? Okay now let me smell you. MIC. Too Weird like prisoner's dilemma. Where like everybody? Like the people you're quarantined with your having been laid off of them, and it's all like relative lake ability to smell terrible smells. Feel like. Maybe that's not the one that we need to use to sign ethically diagnose yourselves. You reminded me actually doing because my husband is at home. He's in medical school, but he's in his fourth year. And they're all at home studying and. So my stand up is ruined all fart jokes. That's it. Let's my whole audience. Let me, see if I got it. Let me see if I got it. He's had me practice this like I. Dunno Seventeen Times a day. Letter. burs. Favorite! This is great. You're dialing in your whole new brand now. I'm really curious to see what people's new comedy brands are. Yes! My new album is GONNA be. Imprint let her rip was already. Let her rip. Rip. Can She please rip. That's the next. Mission to. Turn. And you let in Rib. Bank you. L. Ripped. Yes. Are Czar we're GONNA. Get to know you a little bit better in a moment. I tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to check real quick I've watched half of tiger, King and I. The new episode of Tagger King. That is not really an episode of Tiger King. We're going to talk about Bernie Endorsing Biden. We're GonNa talk about just the complete cluster fuck that is the trump administration and the GOP's response to Corona virus. We're GONNA talk about Choir Chela. We're GONNA talk about Joe Exotic just straight up crushing it in Europe. Disney deciding that it's time for more Robin Hood. We need more Robin. Hood in this world and jaws, of course being the. The the moment, the or the movie of the moment. We like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history? That's revealing about who you are or where we are as a people. I was just looking at. and. Con, Oh from Star Trek. Yes, wow why why did you? Is this part of your Fart bit or? Car. It's a great way to cover it up. Huge distraction scream. My punchline. To let her? Are Our user. I am kind of a tricky I'm also like directing quarantine movies. with my students who will because my I have a bunch of Solo performance students who at the Hollywood fringe got moved to October. And meanwhile we gotta rehearse and try stuff, so we've been doing it like all you know to camera and like we were like. Oh, we should totally just like do this for gt now. and we're mimicking like scenes from famous films for one of my students. Bush Bernie? She's got her show coming out in October now and there's going to be a great Constan. It's going to be read Nice. That sounds incredible. What is something underrated Tim Allen? Sorry. Is that office? No, I think so. underrated. I'm sorry maybe I was in A. Childcare coma over the weekend so some. Miss. What is happening in the culture on sniffing bender over the weekend? Right. Why is Tim? Allen underrated right now. Okay, I've been watching so many Christmas movies. Because you know it doesn't matter what time it is. Just always you house. I went on like Christmas just always. Your House is my favorite. It doesn't matter what it is 'cause. It's always your house. Facts go on I'm sorry it's just where we are yeah. And I've been watching so many Allen movies man. Okay, he's got some pretty bad lines. Sometimes He does a good job. was committed. These got that cocaine charisma. That just like he can nail even the botched lines. I was watching the Santa Claus again. And my goodness, really yeah, yeah, yeah, there's like the the in the of the opening scene. The boss is like encouraging drunk, driving kind of and then there's like this white man is like interrupting a woman of color to like. Take all credit for the work that's been done. That's right. Distracts I guess but yeah. I'm. Tim Allen. Has that thing like back then? They're like this guy just can't miss man. He's funny, grunting on home, improvement and people. Do that's not even a line, but that's fucking. Yeah exactly. I'm finding my audience. I'm finding them. He has big letter rip energy. Charisma. That's made new favorite. I have way less Tim Allen in my life. I'm going to remedy that I'm going to work on. Getting getting more, Tim Allen in my list. Catch up with you guys. Do that and then cause of violent like emotional mental car crash by loading up his latest standup and juxtapose to can be like all right this fucking last name and standing. Everybody. Else's a real man. Wasn't he was GONNA? Fuck your feelings. SNOWFLAKES Tour With Adam. Corolla was any or did they already do that? That's the name of. It was basically like old washed. White Comedians who like don't know how to do material other than being toxic mean as humor, quote, unquote, and like pushing back against like this new world, so they're just gonNA. Go out and be like dude. Street. You ever have no men's where you're like damn. My social media is highly curated for me. This. In Oh. Oh, yeah I'd I get off on looking at every corner of the Internet so I'M Really people seriously like. Shoot is not Syrian like Oh, boy, people who haven't moved past the drudge more than a check like CNN. It's really it's more morbid curiosity than anything. Czar, what is what is something you think is overrated. Pandemics Oh yeah. Panic. At this. Of Years is, great. I'm surprised. There is little is there more is there more of a call for the greatest generation like what remains of it for them to go back out there and work? You know if they really are the greatest generation. Wouldn't they be the ones to put their lives on the line for this American economy? which generation is that? I? Thought that's their parents. The the parents of boomer boomer parents have been merced parents is the greatest generation. YEA, like the World War Two, depression live survivors. Okay. Yeah Anyway! Them, but I mean I have to say. It's got to be the boomers I mean they invented. All the cool stuff well. Here's why pandemics are overrated. because. I've been reading that a lot of this talk about the pandemics is like something that we actually have to get used to on a regular basis because part of the reason. Why cove it got so bad. Is Climate Change? Climate Crisis Yes because of the rapid disappearance of species. Yeah, and because we've lost somewhere around like I think more than two hundred fifty million species in the last four years. The and also like the bio-mass. Decreases also. Horribly alarming. With. How did the dying off? The species lead to the pandemic I. Don't know the exact science behind this, but I know that there's a relationship between viruses that animals pick up before it gets to us at all Oh interesting, that resolved slows it down, yes. Something like that, and because of the rapid decline of species that we don't have that protection anymore. I think the other thing to even to like it especially when you compare what we're looking at with climate change like that's the other scientific thing. People are doing a really good job at pretending isn't a thing and our solutions to that aren't just shelter in place, either and it's like that's what's really the dark. Yeah, even darker lining to this. It's like okay, so we're barely getting our shit together like not even getting are barely scraping by with corona, virus. What are we? What does that mean for the climate change conversation when we can, we sort this out. Are we ready to talk about that? Like that's the thing that could also wipe out most of the earth yeah I mean. We could have been doing shelter in place to reverse climate crisis, because that's been working actually right. Yeah, and as you guys may know from my other appearances on your show, I am a huge fan of secular catastrophes Aka any catastrophe. That's not Muslim and. The. Disappearance of Antarctica is one that I've been following for a really long time. And now the soil underneath the all of the ice in Antarctica is extra. Yes, and with it are also thawing prehistoric viruses that never died new bacteria. Yes, Chris, literally just keeping it on ice. Bro! Just keep that on ice for a few years. Look at how excited my face is for the. Task Trophy e I remember seeing someone Fana- smile as good as you right, there's. The time when you tell us a amiss thing, you explain the everything you just said was hopefully. I who are pretty soon. They keep telling us that it's impossible to reverse climate crisis. Right climate change that like you know. LA is flocked to bad. There's no way that we're going to ever be able to make this work, but then in the last three weeks there like because of the lack of cars on the road, the film over la has disappeared. It's gone. And part of the reason part of the reason why we have so much rain is actually because that smog cloud is lifted until the rain clouds can actually make their way up. The mountain was a true. Yes. The Rain Is Nice. It's nice change of pace the knocked, but it's so funny. Cyclically right more cars means more smog, which means more carbon, which means less rain, which means more fire, which means more carbon, which and then you eliminate that even pollution aspect of it, and it's giving us a bomb in like moisture. And Yeah. We have we literally have like two weeks extra rain? Because, we're driving this much less. And when I was in high school, I remember the way that they talked about the like pollution and La. It was just like good luck solving that right right? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I remember that the air pollution, and even the whole Ni Os owned layers were kind of portrayed as. Irreversible problems, and then once you know once. The hole in the ozone layer started going in the other direction. People like stopped covering it as a news story. Basically, we just kind of forgot about it and you know. The all it took was three weeks an economic meltdown, right? Yeah, and I feel like you know there are some ways in which official policy isn't taking into account, climate change, but I. I agree that we should be covering climate change is something that is more actionable than you know i. feel like the two messages I. Get sometimes are. fucked or you guys are overreacting and there's no problem. Basically, there's not sort of that in-between where there's a hopeful message. Yeah. You know the other thing that's interesting is like in this situation. Because before it was always up to us like you know we can't do that to the car industry. We can't do that to gas and oil, but then now it's not really up to us. Yeah Yeah it seems pretty clearly out of our hands, but hopefully. I keep coming up against this thought. Over like even the last three stories we've talked about that that the world has just thoroughly being controlled by the baby boomer, like point of view like even with the greatest generation having this mythic ideal about them, and like that's the baby boomer generation's parents, so it's like we're just dealing with their like daddy issues basically. But also like how they're dealing with climate change, and just their inability to like take blame because they're so narcissistic, and there's you know in the in the quarantine I just read a statistic that forty something percent of people under the age of thirty five. It's basically like people who aren't. boomers are getting fucked by this economic catastrophe caused by climate, change and boomers are still somehow fine, even though you know they're older and should be. At least as vulnerable as the rest of us when it comes to economic. Like where we are economic. Oh, yeah, they're just. 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Because on the one hand you have the person who. At least represents the truth, I? Don't know if he's necessarily like the truth. Seeking hero that we all have made him out to be but a foul, she is definitely the person who at least represents the truth and the administration. Probably has the most at stake when it comes to. Disagreeing with the president at least being willing to put the truth out there and then the president is you know just tied to whatever? Is Best for his ego at any given moment, so there's going to be a clash there. We've seen this play out every time. He doesn't like experts. He doesn't like people with any kind of experiential knowledge that would actually help him or any- anyone who comparatively knows more than him especially when it's something like right now, trump is clearly like in this head space of affect. Fuck like the numbers have to lick rider a go to jail. If I'm not reelected, kind of energy and everything is so focused on like what the numbers look like. What's the economy going to look like what are this? And so when you have. The clearly like within the White House. Wants to keep him safe so like before voucher. There was as our at health and Human Services. WHO's a former pharmaceutical? Executive who runs. HHS he was even even that guy. The farm goal was telling trump at the end of January. He's like Hey, man. You've gotTa Fuck and look into this dude like this is going to be. This could be bad. He's like this is really. We're looking at some really significant losses here if we don't do anything, and that's why Alex. we haven't heard from him ever since. Because apparently pence, Kushner everybody. Up Don't fuck and say Real, Shit! was to get a fucking man. That's why he's fallen. That's why as are completely vanished from being head of HHS like we're like okay, so there's this contempt of like. Don't upset. Happy with facts because he can't handle it, so just let him make decisions based on non knowledge that are going to have real world effects I I. Don't know how they think that's a sustainable like sort of model to manage the salt. I don't think that they are meant to I. think that, right? I'm busy to chapter eleven, the United States Yeah, he's well. He's doing a great job. I mean that is yeah. Yeah, in a way. That is his Mo like in life, so make sense wherever he goes bankruptcy. Yeah, absolutely, he ever. He touches turns to Shit, except for his own reputation, which he manages to just kind of push his way through by lying, and it's, but that's within his own head. But it works. It's worked for for a long time because he knows how to very successful at manipulating people, but nobody comes away from him unscathed, and by electing him president, we let the we invited vampire into the House essentially and I don't. He's not gonNA leave office without a huge fight that is going to challenge every norm that we have to your point miles. I think there's a more and more reporting coming out on the trump administration like what was going on inside the trump administration. During these crucial weeks, where weren't a social isolating or recommending social isolating? There is New York Times in depth article on Sunday. That was pretty. Went into detail about you know people like foul she. Pushing and so I'm assuming that's why he feels comfortable. Now coming out and being like yeah, so obviously. This guy's fucking off, but. It's I I don't know on the one hand like yeah. We're correcting the record and it's going to be known. It's GonNa. People are GonNa know who fucked up, but on the other hand from a practical perspective it's. They're still lives to be saved. And in fact, this might be the most crucial time. For for the saving of lives. A trump is meanwhile. While? He's re tweeting things about firing foul she he is being selfish about getting credit for the decision to reopen the country which I. don't see how this doesn't fuck him. I'm sure there's some way I'm not thinking selfish like he's like is my idea. It's my decision. Yeah, it's my decision. It's my decision alone and it's an incredibly. You know that there's it's a no win decision and it's one that like. When he first suggested the Easter thing Kellyanne Conway was like you can't say shit like that because every death after Easter. If you go forward with us, you will own every death that happens after Easter from a political standpoint, but it just seems like. Yeah, but it just seems like he is. To like. shortsightedly ego testicle, and there were a bunch of articles about how governors we're going to have to make their own decisions on a state by state basis and he was like. No, it's my. It's my decision. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA. Bring in my task force which is Giovanni. He's now openly saying like my children are going to be part of the task, force. And he's going to consult a couple other people and then make the decision on when to reopen the. Government, but it is. It is an incredibly difficult decision that probably should be made by governors, but he. You know being a egotistical dictator. At least an aspiration he wants to be. He wants to be the guy who makes the big decision. It's kind of a no win situation that probably. Can't be good for him politically if we're assuming that we still live in a democracy which you know, who knows if we do based on? How easy it's going to be for him to manipulate things in declare martial law and kill post office and. Declined to let people vote over now. The Post Office is like the last. That's a barometer for me. Big One. That's GonNa I think people are gonNA be pissed if they lose the post office, the and also like how readily they're willing to dismantle everything so quickly without any thought given to. It is like that's also just like Oh. That's were were truly in the darkest timeline at that point. Yeah, no, don't need donate the post office to here with that thing emergency everything. What was that word? You said destabilization, czar, yes, That's right after eleven. The United States was right so anyways i. mean that's that's a big conversation. That's being had on both sides about. Wisconsin pushed through and had. Their primary, despite the fact that. Experts were saying this is wildly responsible, and we just find a way to let people only vote over mail because going out to the polls right now is deadly. They still had it and you know there's these Fox News articles where they. They're both sides ING it. They're like on the one hand. People think it's deadly on the other hand. Voting by mail opens things up to massive voter fraud, which again is a made up. Problem may up problem that. You know they continue to insist is a real issue. It's the only way for them to suppress the boat. I think for them. It's like Oh and also voter fraud on our side could become a massive problem. Getting how they what they would do because that's typically the concerns they raise is that they already having like a burglar? Do your home security assessment or like? Yeah I'd probably get in through there or I can. Unlock that you WANNA lock that up. Yeah, it's good. You asked me about this because there could be massive voter fraud. Honestly also. What are we going to do with voter fraud? Do you know what I mean like? At this point? Things were asking for our like voter fraud so that we have income to put back into the economy and have healthcare, so we don't die, and also you know create more crises for Public Health La. That's. Just made sums it all up. That is the sound it's my. Christmas gain crews. My Dad. Mistress cocaine. To you live from my bed, my from my bed, literate one time. Right. 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And we're back and it's time to talk about some bullshit. Such as tiger, King and the tiger king and. Is that what that episode? Yeah they. It should have just been released as an individual standalone special zoom special. I can't imagine the film makers of the documentary are thrilled that they're now like they released this thing as though it were another episode of the documentary, and it's just basically it's like a weird mixture of a reunion episode of Real Housewives Show. Except, they're not all in the same place so much less dynamic and Attala series where the people are a mixture of haunted ghosts in horrifying monsters, and they're all a little bit complicit in animal cruelty, but Otherwise, it's just like. Baby. What do you think about Joe is no? I got through maybe the halfway through Jeff lows. So that was only the second interview segment when I was like. This is not helping like this is an inch. It's weird tone is so weird especially when Joel Mathausen racking Joe. As like the ones zookeepers like half lamenting the fact that like he was like helping like trick tiger, so they could be euthanized and shit, and you're like okay. He's like, but those tigers were sick. Right and the guy was like you'd hope so, but Nah Nah man. Yeah, when you're like. Hold on. Okay, you know for all the. GOOFY CHARACTER SHIT! That's interesting about this documentary. It's like there's also the all the dark animal cruelty shit that really goes along with. It also like when you see that dude! The zookeeper Kinda like. Go through his mind of house like the Tigers trusted me and were it not for their trust that they had in me I couldn't get them in a position to be tranquilized to be later. Just Samaria executed. I mean we saw him. Go through that while like drinking himself to. Unconsciousness during the episode, and that was far more powerful than anything. You know the that you see in this. It's just basically a check in that reconfirms everything. You already know about from the series I. really would have rather nickel by your Oh, by four sure it's. It was weird, so the reason Joel McHale when when somebody I sent think. Jose. Texted the threat and was like so it's Joe McHale hosting interviewing people and I was like Oh that must be a typo. Sense like the guy from the soup that like which is specifically a show that like was I? I enjoyed the hell out of the super like the tone of that show is like these dummies. Not really interacting with the the subject of the of the comedy in a in a way, though is empathetic at all. But it makes sense when you realize that community just dropped on that flex and they're pushing that hard and he's The star of community. So was basically he? They wanted to showcase that like somehow transition, success of tiger, King into like creating. A Community Binge Watch which is like such a fucking stretch man. Get some. With a tiger king. Radio Click. You can see the meeting where it's happening. It's so it's the it's definitely the most kind of transparently like networking thing. That I've ever seen Netflix do there's even a part where Joel McHale. Shoe Horns in reference to Ken Jong that doesn't make any sense, he says. That The Guy who got his arm chewed off should be. Played by Ken John. And then he's like I mean he would need a lot of makeup, and because he's old, and it's just like no. That doesn't make any sense The whole I mean did have a show like that weird soup reboot they attempted on. Netflix said only went like maybe twenty episodes or something, I wonder if he's like. On call it Netflix's like. Hey, we gotta do a make. Good Jol man! I I'm really curious. If like a week from now, the numbers will show up and it will have worked. It'll work. Really you think so. It will work in this very narrow instance that people want more tiger king, and people will watch it to get more tire king, but it won't work in a long-term sense of this does damage to the net flicks. flicks brand because it's such a weird you know like there's no. There's no traceable way that they'll be able to be like well now. People are think about in a slightly diminished way, but it's A. It's a bad look for them. I think the ranch is bad. Look for them. You know what I mean. Ranch is also a bad luck. It's on the level of the ranch. But. That's where Netflix is going to be like. What are you GonNa do go to another streaming platform. And I think the big mistake I made was like releasing it as an episode of the show like if they had just been like. Here's a dumb one off special where like Joel Mchale interview? Some people like not a lot of people watched it probably, but it would have been honest, but the fact that they releases an episode. Big thing that I learned from the episode is that Joel Mikhail's hair is not human hair. I don't know if you guys noticed that he I've seen this once before on. Nicholas Cage is head was. Viewed! School newspaper, but it's like when there's not a you know an entire. You know hundreds of people. Sized crew, working on making the person look really good. You can kind of see that the hair is like stapledon. They're a little bit or Just a little strange. You like you can. You can see like his hairline has like little like a divots like you'd see in a Cornfield. The problem with HD man. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't begrudge him his ability to like. There are those early seasons of the Soup He. had a very receding hairline, and now he has a very strong hairline. That just looks a little bit like you know when you see a really old doll, you see like where the hairs. A little bit at the very beginning. But the weird, so that's fine I. Don't begrudge him that at all. Big So catty like. Look at this dog hair. Real quick and I don't. With his tired ass, looking hair dog shows I'm not I'm not trying to like make fun of anybody for. Superficial things like everybody has their own vanity stuff and I don't like that's. That's fine, but. There comes through because this is such a rush. Bullshit production is that he keeps referencing people's hair. Throughout the whole thing. He liked references the first guy he's like. And did you just wash your luxury luxurious hair? Or How many times did you wash your? Hair today and he's like A. Man Like I haven't and then there was another part. He Asks Jeff Low if the guy the jet ski guy like if they should have like imprisoned his hairdresser, and then they're like it's their these weird things where he keeps lake shoehorning in his awareness of hair that I feel like. If it had gone through another couple like rounds of production, people would have been like a little weird that he keeps bringing up hair and his hair looks fine like it looks real ish, but like if you keep raising it as an issue, it's going to become a a thing that people notice. That's where I didn't like how trump keeps saying rigged. The system is rigged. Exactly, but now we've noticed that some people notice. It's rigged in the opposite way like not that it's again. Has It rigged? But almost like yeah. I wouldn't have noticed his hair if it were not for him bringing up all the hair on everyone. Here constantly. Did you notice it miles? Now I was watching on a phone. And I was just rolling my eyes at the the mere existence of this, because like Jack said he just had this like Bizarro. Tell all vibe. That like I wasn't. Like fine whatever I, I'd rather get to the heart of more pressing matters in that thing than just sorta like Yo. What are you guys? Wait? What's it like going to Walmart? Now WHOA. Your teeth he though. So what's it like being US celebrity and I'd like absurdity. He asked people to cast themselves. But you know they're all thriving. They are I. Mean I think you still see people like the exploitative nature like the exploitative seems of the documentary show a little bit when you have like the first person they interview is the zookeeper with the long hair. and. He's like talking about how. Drinking problem, but he doesn't any more. And that's also the weird thing about a reunion episode for the show is like. I mean so what now making of a murderer is going to have a reunion episode. God Willing Right. That was sort of what like season two was, wasn't it? Yeah, we're going to have. Such a bummer. Brandon, please please let him out the the other person that was not in the documentary, but just crushing. It internationally is Joe Exotics Music career. Because spotify added some of the tracks on March. Thirtieth to the platform and they've just seen yet like. Go up up. People not like the way that it's like it's you know it's the new old town road, but it's funny when they look at the analytics like the countries that are really feeling it the highest rate of streaming like given like the you know, proportionate to their population is Denmark they are seeing tiger right now, That's all they can see, and then it's followed by. By, like Iceland the UK and Ireland I think are like also like some of the more interesting countries in terms of volume per person, but obviously the United States has the most like miracle numbers of spins because population but the the enthusiasm ranked by state, apparently North Dakota is listening to listening to Joe Exotic at the highest rate. Ben. Mississippi Montana Kentucky and West Virginia Nevada. California the least. How for you? The least? Yeah, good job, Karen More California and get out there because. We're like it's raining. Yeah I know I'm going to listen to this hour times by portishead. Also. He's not sing any of that music. No, which people people really? Ended up liking that music more like that ended up being one of the big takeaways was like men. Joe Exotic has really good voice like for people who I wasn't really paying any attention to it that much, but. Turns out. He wasn't saying that he was like softly leasing over top of an actual singer who he paid. Make those albums granted still showing a degree of narcissistic genius that if he hadn't been arrested for murder could have one day got him elected president, but like that's not a thing that a non narcissist like thinks to do is hire a band to play music and let you pretend. Can't right, but that's the same mentality right like of at a certain level of power and narcissism. You start doing the thing where you just like. Build these monuments to your own bullshit, miffed like self, mythology, ising, or like you know whether it's Kim Jong Hoon like had like eighteen holes in one or his dad like eighteen holes in one and a golf game where like with the flight even say that who gives a fuck or just joe exotic being like? Here's a fake ass song where I can actually sing, because that's my brain, it's just like the same shit playing out from levels. He did run for President Yeah, you do, and probably would have been the second worst person to. The, post office probably Pro Kelly office up and running. Loom Baby Tigers. Ship around. Just live on these little baby tax I love on them. So The New York Times magazine had a panel of experts for an interview on how to restart the world. No Way Yeah you. Reese that yeah, yeah, reset. Obsolete I think. It's I think it's more like we. This whole apocalypse has been more subtle and like slow and boring than I. Think any of the apocalypse is we had imagined. Up to this point, and I think the restarting is going to be more like slow offers full of stops and starts. Than than we're imagining right now. They got you know they? A lot of people are curious. You know like what what does normal look like. We were talking about this last week. What the fuck is normal anyway anymore and like what's the return to that? Even from like a social distancing social distancing standpoint and a lot. What these experts said they had like you know people in like bioethics. Bioethics like epidemiologists and Varela just sort of all talking, and they're all kinds of saying the same thing like the only way we get back to what we thing is normal or the way we can curb this social, even relaxing, the social distancing is we need more testing and we have to rapidly be able to test and we have to do. Contact tracing that's way more efficient to get a handle on anyone talking about that ship before this is like it's just full of shit like it's overly optimistic to look at that and one of the more kind of striking things as they were the I think the person conducting the interviews mentioning this June date because I think a lot of people are saying like June could maybe be the beginnings of some relaxing of these social distancing guidelines, and again they were sort of like now without that testing, not without properly like said you know in the United States, especially like we're not even in a complete lockdown as a country like they're still eight governors who have yet to really make. Moves on this, so it's like I don't know how you can think. This is were really handling it when we're still just allowing other places in the country to keep moving on when other countries we've been going through this have had to lockdown entirely and they said in terms of industries like maybe manufacturing construction would come back I, because you can reasonably keep six feet away from somebody, and like exercise social distancing there, but he said the this one expert said if you're talking about concerts, gatherings, fucking sporting events and shit like that who are saying Oh. Yeah, October! Twenty twenty were good. This one expert is I I seen. Quote is no idea how they think that's a plausible possibility. I think those things will be the last to return. Realistically. We're talking fall twenty twenty one at the earliest. Twenty twenty one. That's one okay. That's one expert. Okay I don't WANNA put. Already putting queries out for cyber lectures and cyber performances through twenty twenty one right, it's I. Think Yeah, when you look at it and our inability to actually test properly like you know in Texas. The governor thinks they're going to open up real soon. Because a couple of walgreens are going to have testing sites, it's like no, we don't. We're not even close to the capacity of an Iceland who has really been able to test? Anyone granted their population is. is much smaller, but like those are the levels we need to be at to be able to sort of safely. Say like Oh yeah, it's safe to go out, or it's safe to resume these parts of life like we're just like. We're looking at a lot of data that we don't have it, so they're going to keep this going. They're going to get rid of the post office. Wait till after the election so that any protesters will just die. Right. Now I know what Halloween's GonNa. Look like okay. Okay I feel like the blood serum testing. Like that looks for antibodies. If it turns out that you can't get covid nineteen twice or that, your body produces an effective antibody like most other viruses I think. That's going to become a thing like at the end of the movie. Contagion has a whole section where people after A. Bunch of months of social distancing again that viruses like way deadlier and kills basically everybody who get sick with it. But they then create A. Vaccine for people to get, and they then do like a lottery where like by birthday and like, if you have a which is how they actually did it for the Vietnam War, but people have good birthdays. Get the vaccine I and so forth, and then like once you get the vaccine you get. This government issued bracelet that allows you to let go back out in public and I feel like that is the best we could hope for is my. My God like that. It would be that uniform I. think the bad version of that is the rich people are the only people who can get the blood serum antibody testing to find out if they had it or not, and if they have the antibodies, and then they're the only ones who are able to go out in public, because that's what we saw with the testing to find out if you had the disease in the first place was. The maximum NBA players. Can I mail in ballot now, right? That's I'll just send it now. How `Bout we all vote right now. I'm voting Marianne Williamson write in candidate. Big ORB energy. Bring it on home. Speaking of movies about the coronavirus pandemic. What one that kind of keeps coming up? That you might not have expected to be the embodiment of a modern day crisis. Actually one. I did I called it. I knew it. It's my favorite movie of all time me, too. Oh my God. I didn't know that about you. Gang. Yeah I saw. It was like my whole claim to fame. Just. See Miles. I like up until age eight. It was like my whole thing was how many times I'd seen jaws and like I was. Drew Sharks on everything. It was really. Just out. Josh shirt that says pause. Cute so anyways I do shout jam mcnabb. Who writes for the show and was on the podcast when we were in Toronto when we were still traveling. and He February twenty eighth haired. Yeah. He compared trump's response to the mayor from jaws. Back, then and yeah, it's it's pretty staggering. There's. Just a lot of. A lot of moments from that movie that keep coming up on my mind when Richard Dreyfuss tells the mayor that he's ignoring a problem until it swims around and comes and bites him on the ASS. Which is very memorable to me because it was like one of the first times I heard someone use the word ass, and I was like. And then you know the guy who are the a woman whose son is eaten by a shark one of the first victims and slaps, chief brody, and says the line you knew, and now my boy is dead. She actually. The actress passed away from complications. Do the coronavirus a Mike early on. Yeah, that's right I. did see that and there's a lot of political cartoons where it's like trump saying. Why aren't you going back in the water? Looking like the mayor from jaws stuff, but it's it's also literally happening. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Announced that he'd reopen the state's beaches like a while ago. I think it was last week last week. This is as the Pentagon was ordering one hundred thousand body bags to. Store Corp of the Americans killed by the coronavirus. He was like. Let's reopen the beaches. It's getting warm down here. And obviously and Florida governor. Rhonda Santa's refused to issue a statewide closure of beaches. And then just across the entire. Tragedy, that this is kind of how the trump administration was behaving at I. Oh my God! My love of secular catastrophe has just skyrocketed because you're right. We are getting into summer and people are going to keep the beaches open, and it's going to be jaws. I L. Basically. If yes, with much less cooler way of dying, thank God. We have Biden as our chief brody. My right guys high fives. Fives I was said that I wanted to get eaten by a shark when I was growing up. Wait what what I wanted to. This is a far worse. What is this thing about how Boris Johnson? In two thousand six had this yeah? where he says a real hero of jaws is the mayor is the mayor. Johnson, who started the coronavirus pandemic out being like we're GONNA. Keep a stiff upper lip and. Get through this together and he wasn't like urging social distancing the way that the experts were. Suggesting and he was showing off how STOIC was by continuing to shake hands with everyone and brag about it and then. I see you. In two thousand six, he told an audience of people that the real hero of jaws the Mayor said it has like sort of a tongue in cheek. Thing because he is you know leans more libertarian, and he thinks any government intervention is bad, and so he was kind of being trying to be cute about it, but then when it came to make a life or death decision. He actually went away the mayor from jaws for a couple days before people were like. What the fuck are you doing? Any almost killed himself. but there's just there's memes everywhere. The it's probably the most the most memed movie. In With Corona virus for the first like. For at least the first month, and I just think Spielberg in general has always had this like his movies always. Have you know in in other movies? The scary thing is the dark, but in his movies it's always. Like horrifying things happen either in broad daylight like jaws or any Ti- when like all the people come in with machine, guns and astronaut suits and like we. Take takeover their town like during the day, or in like it's literally like bright light like in raiders or poltergeists eastern and. Close encounters, but a I think he was like reacting to. You know the fact that. That is actually how the most horrifying things in our world have happened in modern history. They happen and You know the concentration camps of world, war two or you know gulags or you know they, don't. They don't come out of the dark. They haven't in broad daylight. Watch Regal Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's onto some He knows what he's doing. He's onto something this Spielberg kid keep your eye on this kid. I'm just San I been saying it for like I. was saying it back in the early two thousand ten's that I thought the movies were pretty good. You guys got your horse. Check out this war. Guys. Keep your eye on this Spielberg. Also, I let one thing. I love about that movie. Is that the Robert? Shaw character so great he ends up like it's a self fulfilling endeavor the whole time. He just wants to die in the arms of the shark the whole time, yeah! And if there's something very beautiful about like the scene where he's eaten, and like is kind of like dragged off with his arms out like. He's being lifted away by a dance partner. Never thought of it that way. That's. One of my favorite Shah That's letter. Litter. Zara it has been such a pleasure having you as always Where can people find you and follow you? You can come to my house I'm here all day. Or you can find me on twitter at Zara. Comedy, Z. A. HR, a comedy or on I g Zara comedy where I will be releasing snippets of my comedy special, or you can help me actually get my comedy special out by supporting me on Patriae on. Our comedy right. Do It is there a tweet or some other work of social media? You've been enjoying. The one that I was enjoying is a visual one. It's an image that somebody to oh. My God somebody took a picture from echo park down all the way through to the a downtown of La while hiking, and it's this gorgeous shot, and there are dolphins in Echo. Park. It's amazing. I mean there's Dolphin. Park yeah the lake the lake that's an echo park. There's dolphins in it now. Miles. Where can people find you? And what's tweet you've been enjoying? I like man I like. My handles on twitter instagram playstation network miles of gray, and you can check out my other podcast four twenty day, fiance where we discussed the joy of the show ninety day, fiance was sophie. Alexandra some tweets I like their few one is from sixty minutes. Because they. It's not often sixty and sixty minutes. Just Slam dunks on people, but they were interviewing. Peter Navarro who we talked about who is a trade goon, who's in charge of like a lot of the coordinating a lot of the supplies and he's been failing, but he's always been using excuses like okay look. This was like once in five hundred years flood. Like how are we supposed to know you know like oh? You Watch. Go back to when you guys are. Are doing this show during the Obama Administration even the Bush administration and show me something you guys were talking about pandemics and how we were under underprepared. The Guy during the interview is adamant that they did. He's like what we have. He's like we've. This has been a thing. Experts have been talking about fears. He goes yeah well. Show me that segment that you did. He goes okay, I guarantee. We did cut to this tweet from sixty minutes or they're like. They're they're juxtaposing? Peter Navarro denying it. Like the existence of this coverage, and then like three back to back segments one going as far back as two thousand five with Anthony Fauci warning sixteen minutes that the United States was not prepared for a pandemic like. Amazing, it's amazing frustrating infuriate, you'll fill everything. This videos got it all. And another one is from. Melissa del Rey at Soiree Sita. And says these the five Jesus talking about, and it's a photo of a cell phone tower, but like with these hold on. Sorry I'm going to have to can't see. I know. Let me let me get rid of this virtual ground. it's with. She says Sandy's the Five G. Looking for. And it's like five leg og like gang members on the cell tower. Five jeep like five gangster. Awesome. And then lastly Easter happened over the weekend at Random Otis TV tweeted a like a screen grab of searching Google. And it says Jesus, height, and the answer says about five foot five inches, and he tweeted this your king of kings. Damn. Savage I mean how how did they know? How would they know you know? How could this? I don't buy it. I think he was like six five to fifty. Oh, yeah. Built like brick shithouses bill like the rock built lake me. What. macgyver tweeted idea so dumb. You get concerned that the brain that came up with it is the same one responsible for keeping you alive. Sending me places and then Demi. 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The No Jumper Show Ep. 82

No Jumper

1:30:46 hr | 3 months ago

The No Jumper Show Ep. 82

"Did you did we. Did we tell them what time we're going to start. I did on my instagram story. And my twitter and say that we're going to start late so forty five. Is that a heart on your yoda shirt. Listen it what i thought. It was like a heart hard. Poll this shit. Just holiest old because his shirt open and a hole in his stomach so they could fuck the whole No or maybe. Just a vintage t-shirt maybe honestly disbrow dish. It is rare oldest. And you know what i'm saying. Why is iota back on. it'd be a popular. All these kids. debut mandalorian show with the fuck. Is it's star. Wars showing amanda laurean. Far as where baby came from a real baby. Doe's like the oldest foot as somebody who's never seen star wars. i think that they are ruining star. Wars not and i'm not sure what they're doing or anything but it just too much. Just leave it alone. Yes i was gonna say. I was gonna say. How could you have an opinion that you don't watch it and you never even really seen any of this series. Because i think it's important to have opinions about things that you don't know anything about is as me you know it's like you gotta you gotta do that anymore. Okay hold on all right. What's your opinion on my my babe. The yankees fake. You're thinking about it. But i think it's very this episode. All about having unfounded opinions. Obey the nape. Mlb genuine merchants counterfeiting newsday's. But i think is worth I guess those four dollars four dollars. Four hundred whereas somewhere in the middle actually. Maybe it's more. He was us five hundred basis so almost thirty dollars. Something like that. i'm pretty good. Want air forces me to got some good ones on the levees this all white with a little little tramp green with a little hint of green. You know i had to talk about my drip. Because as soon as i walked in the office i was getting some compliments. How looked good from. Yeah i was like okay. You will smile look each other but then she proceeds to ask me she was. Can i ask you something like. I don't want to be offensive did you. Did you get your beard. Like darkened like. Do you have beer now. You've had the beijing spray beer because beijing alice. I know just just trimmed a little bit lineup to find beijing talking about technology. Down noah fake hairlines brain. Hey do it for both. They do it very heavily in the beard. So if you've got patches or if it's not all the way put together you spray it in there and getting the my beard doug because i got of grey hairs and a now and i mean i feel like if i did that. It would look so dark that it would look of weird vampire. No but you look like that before before you had grey hairs. What do you mean you and also it's like you can't. You can't really tell my here that i'm crossing you. Yeah but don't you just get like lightly darkened. There's gotta be if i if i go. You got to go like full in deep with also. Just don't wanna do it. In general because i hate maintenance i hate taking care of myself or you know i never get. My car was never like make my schedule. Bird shits on bro. Fuck those nobody got it lined up. Get a car wash at the same time every week. Also you should get eighty gets his haircut every every week. I heart Shaved in there. Like i've never seen you not with a crispy lineup. I'm i know he goes every shape during the week to go. Okay i want once a week. No no no i get my hair. Could every saturday with the razor shave and maybe like a monday or tuesday. I gotta get back to get just a just a lineup cleaned. Stay clean on. You should get your beards tattooed on the mexican lady with the eyebrows. Where they get the. Do you have a beard killer. A you know what i might do. I might shave my head. Get my whole heads. How to and then grow my hair back. That's very young lord of your even know. Because he i i think the airlines fucked up. So he can't he can't grow. I don't know. I never seen any growing with hair grown now. I'm afraid to get the top of my head tattoo. I got all the sides right now. But i'm afraid of your hair's not going grow back after ni- about the hair i just feel like that's probably the most painful tattoo our ever get though. Yeah i think about that. Because i have the whole back and all i would have to do is really the top top ten and also it's like that is going to mean that if i have a shaved head again i'm gonna look crazy as fuck whereas like right now with head of hair. You don't really see the tattoos and bagging on a light that people are learning. What the nazis. Thank you for. Sure this last. Why that's why you gotta get like the ball fade so then all the all the tattoo show around. That's what i do know. Yes see most of the time. I get my beards. Faded on the size decides that y'all just let it just being you know My whole thing though is that like i don't have i couldn't believe he asked me that i was like i don't have my haircut every two weeks like locked in so it's like i'll frequently. I'll go a month without my haircuts on my beers looking super crazy. Like if you watch after i had the guy put none of my face on that video ended logan pollen. Shit i look like a goddamn fucking wolfman because my shit is so big. I looked terrible because not good. I gotta i gotta stay on top of the beer but you really like somebody like just knowing you for a long period of time. Now you just don't give now. You can see you going to bad like this and just hopping out like because i work out every morning. Otherwise i was going to couple days without showering Especially in the side of that dirty motherfucker where some gym shorts shoes and just be filthy now. Steam room bro. I take a shower bro. Right there you can't you can't have. What's it called the huckleberry huckleberry be my huckleberry talking about. I don't know have you. I went on a hike. One time like rain came with this girl is dating. We'd go back to the crib run. You know i was went my bitch and we went to rain story. But let's go to the mall not as listen. We come back to the crib. She's trying to dig on. Hold on let me take a shower or quick. Almost but she's like i want that sweaty. Dig my kind of girl so all right. I'll be like come on the first time in your life that you are ever with a girl who wants to suck your sweaty meet. that's how you know she just. She wanted dick stink. That's love or she's craziest book. One of the to let me tell you. Both eighty is about south korea. She can be crazy in love. I underestimated runyon. I don't know why. I thought i was in the best shape of all time. Posey no walking bro. Let me tell you jogged to two different things like a big trail and there's a little trip and you're making me feel like i'm really good shape but this this kind of how i started going through boxing afternoon to show you that you're out of shape broke out. It was the worst. I really was like. Well you're acting like they have like the regular walking trail but has yes. She goes all the way through the valley. Bro it's deep as fuck because not. You probably doesn't win around a little circle. Where up hill. No it was. It was super appeal. But i was trying to get what like this. This girl has like very fit so she was like. Would you come to running with me. I was like yeah. I'll come to run. You know sitting there like whatever she was like. You won't say the big tro tro essay. Give me the big trail and twenty minutes going in and everything's cool and once they incline happened. Y'all walked in or jogging bro. i retry jogging. I say she was passing me. But i ended up fucking throwing bro leafy autumn beers enthrone. Ah somebody had to draw. Walk past me. He'll become helped me up. There's old people walking past me all type of shit now that it was that bad bro. Two and a half hours a complete this year growth bell have you have you all ever been to. Paradise falls is in like by of by calabasas. Almost the same shape to me. I didn't throw up and all that. But bro i literally i was about to fall over and like i couldn't breathe like it might guba going down the it's like it's coming back up. I was literally writing bro about to fall over and i it was hottest fuck was like ninety degrees. But that's not good. Just imagine trying to get somebody and you just throwing. She's running past you. I'm just like i'm never gonna call. You know you know i i. I didn't have to that point. I just feel like you deserve it. No nigga i need to work out getting nearly half to like attack somebody in her honor to get back from that embarrassing cushy possible you gotta catch come out. How could she possibly think that you were going to give a good dick when you couldn't even handle going on this pussy trail for now it's not even like the margin of how far she was. Did she go. She left you. Yes aw she was waiting for me. No i'm like this. Please don't hurt me hurt me. I'm just gonna crime up to ship broke. It was the worst ever lost our respect for you after that now. Every time i see i just like kind of put my head down because i know deep daddy here like you know you find yourself anything like this. Imagine you go somewhere and then you just over. And just smirking winner girls. I through up when he couldn't fucking do running. I don't even think that that. Once honestly i used to hang out at this park in fuck and near a city all the time. Union square is like a little like area with like hang out and stuff and one day. I'm ryan by myself. Because the hang out there. And i did a bunny out. Three sixty three sixty on fly ground. First time i ever really doing it. And i was. I was doing over and over around feeling myself. I'm like twenty one. My girl comes meets me there. Go check this out. I to do a three sixty. Somehow i fell over the handlebars and four. My forehead hit my front tire. Fuck i had a book and brown as mark on my forehead from my tire in front of my girlfriend and help other people at this park that made me feel like that was something that i already lived. There was having sex with her. So i was already in. It made me feel like. I probably should not have sex anymore because i just looked so stupid and that was not that bad because i literally was in a fucking summertime at compton college. They used to have these fucking sportsbook in summer. Camps and stuff. I never forget. I was like eleven. Or twelve bro. I'm trying to show off to these fucking girls. And there's like a fucking metal pipe or something like that pause. I tried to do a sit up on a fucking metal pipe. Yeah pull up. Enter fucking i sort of does the fucking metal piece in my nigga punctures my punctured. Your your brain. And i'm sitting there like yeah chili. And everybody's like oh my head started bleeding bro- blood coming down my fucking head. I had to get a fucking shot. Technique shot or something like that. Yeah because thousand be house. Probably the most embarrassing okay. This wasn't me. But i also pretty sure i told this story on here about the guy split in his nuts while he was playing basketball splitting is open how he liked. He liked dunked in iran. Hit the poll after some shit after the open like in his nothing like fall out boy rolling around on the ground. It wasn't like that but his nuts atmosphere got. I'll never know what color and we google. Actually i've seen some shit quota behind me pain olympics again. So borough sicily traumatize me. I was like nineteen and somebody sent me. That link and i was eating all of a sudden i'm seeing people get their dick split down the middle balls. Cut on my. I'm trying to eat. And i honestly feel like ever since then i have like. I can't even look at anything sexual why because fritz me on. That's how that's how. I feel about two girls one cup because i didn't know what the fuck i was about to watch. Somebody sent me to link. And i was like yo was fake though but sherbert. We didn't know i didn't. I didn't know this until mind blown. That's what i'm saying. I don't blame you. Because i thought it was real bagman to win and they. They just revealed this a couple years ago right. I only know that it's because justin wang and he made a video by that as youtube channel explaining video like three years ago. This is the whole thing about it. Is that when like there's always been videos of people eating shit on the internet but they usually act like it's gross. The reason why do girls one cup was crazy. Because the girls like bugging ice cream if it was poop. They're not going to be eaten like that. These girls said they had to put dice cream into these girls. Asshole it'll sherbert or whatever the chocolate chocolate not dude. Whoever did that pull it off talking about some nice normal stuff advertisers. Come give us your money you can have. It says right there so this conversation please poop meet now the frill light. Let's let's let's put the jokes aside for a minute and let's go ahead and just talk the talk about the elephant in the room. R.i.p to la legend man. Catchy man very sad. Very tragic news. That does is our last night this morning. Catchy was here one month ago when we did the drako interview and then i think he was even here another time after that with somebody else pulled up like i seen him when i was at a does trust in downtown. And yeah man. When i heard about this i think we probably are in the same category. I think in that he got shot or something and then we found out actually was just got hit by a car in the hit and runs is crazy. Man is terrible and especially considering that he was part. You know he's probably the snake teaming locked up you got out just recently just like drako ralphie etc and back on their dropping music getting views like there you know he pulling up in the porsche nine eleven he foaming you know state team chain like just you know you gotta feel for drako man. He's got so much has happened into a minnesota's terrible bro. That's super fucked up. I'm just looking at that. Show dan like how much pain is a person supposed to be able to go through a man like one of these guys need a break at some point and like we were saying earlier like we were saying this off camera There's no you can't even really be mad like it's not like some gang shit where you get like you know or it's not like yeah you know i mean it was a hit and run though so like what happened to the permanent. Yeah doesn't that sound crazy. Where the fuck was he walking across the streets and shit like the maybe over time. But i'm saying where's the person that hit emma and is there any chance that they're going to figure that was there was drunk. Driving shit like was this Like you know that you don't know superset. catchy man. he was such a unique rapper. Like especially out of out of that like even crew but then like wider than i just like the hallway. Ellie seen like when they first came out nobody was like really rapping about like pimping and shit. I mean like his tone his style on the mic. Like i feel like everybody who listens to shoreline drako. Whatever certain point there spaceship and they heard him doing the hook and they realized with it sounds crazy. I'm i'm saying. Even i like i feel like he's started him and like frosty and then a little bit like i can't can't even show now performed but like the whole like la pimp rap shit like in like. That's that's all catchy. You like one thousand percent. I can't even hold you resume peace. Catchy man. I was watching a video at and frosty thrown the fade outside. The pope is. Why are you watching. Because i was watching milk comment on it. He just made a video by that now back when it happened but i was watching video about it just laughing if i go broke and i'm serving my tonsils. That was a frosty bar. Oh catchy the gray newest broke. I'm selling my bitches asaf against me. I couldn't you sell someone's asaf against is not your girl as his bitch. But if i if i had to pick somebody be like some girl i met at the bus stop rather than my main staff. When are you at the bus. Stop as i'm saying if i need to find a pin bottom going to the bus stop. I'm thinking when was the last time you like put up on ambition. Traffic like try to get our number some shit like you walk in or something like that using a car song. I think she's a she's walking with this. La say new york new york person. We're going to st. la you walking down the street. You're crooked sorry. I don't care where on rodeo well what if you walk into walking back and forth to the garden i'm saying why do you live so close to hear like you. Shouldn't you should only be going into the seven eleven when you you could part right there. Two feet away from me if you walk in a further distance on that is just like i remember when i was like maybe i was just. I was younger from shane. I was industry more like skateboarding and taking the bus and shit. It used to be kind of bad bitches like everywhere. And i might now that i drive everywhere like it. Uber's and shit. I never see golfers is she had never seen in uber or being over being moving around in vehicles. I just never see. No babich is out and about. I think about that. We used to be picking girls of downtown nashua at like when i was like eighteen riding around bikes downtown and then every time in my adult life that i've gone back to where i grew up and just like see what's going on. Downtown is nothing by heroin addicts. Run around here. What we're is uber came about it. People was taking the bus. They were taking drain. They were walking a lot more taxes too expensive so but are easily tax society solid. Our society is so fucked up that even the most normal things like. i'm. I'm watching milks channel last night for the record and i. I'm i'm watching this channel. And he's talking to my just hanging out outside the liquor store and how his home he gets shabbat. Amazing or whatever. And i'm thinking in my head on my brothers do is crazy posing up outside the liquor store kicking it at night. I used to be posted. Outside of nato liquor every day broke right but a lot of shit happened. Don't you think about that as an adult and be like. That's the dumbest thing that i could ever imagine doing. Re-target the worst idea but think about what it is. You're socializing hanging out in your neighborhood like out an establishment that everybody goes to. It's totally normal and we view it as as your hood you've just like it's your even though you don't own that your property and your hood stores store. And he's like okay. Where that's where your enemy niggers. No where to go. That's where people who are drunk and on and fettah means and on everything where we know that there are no niggers who want to harm. You are going to know that you're going to be at that at that store target. And he's gonna try to see if anybody over there but you go to. Your store shows that. I'm with the business. I'm not afraid to go to my store. And if your enemy if you come to the store like i see videos contract see videos all the time but people going like certain like like they were going to fuck in joe's market like oh like we're big side but it's like big ready but these sad man. Yeah but it's like big sabio. His he going to be in front of the jobs market. He gonna take badgers and shit but big sad himself is probably not about to be at joe's market everyday like he works there. If if a neighborhood is associated with gang banging in any way and you just post up the fucking lakers star. Come on you know that you're a target at certain point. You don't even have to be really associated with this shit just because you're hanging out there like some shit is if you're a complete and total nobody. I guess i get it at a certain point. You'll feel it's a terrible idea. Even then nigga you can just be a bystander in the area and is my thing somebody from somewhere you foaming. Well is bro nigga. The skate park. We used to hang out. You start getting crazy like that. Nigga i gotta go back to somewhere else like you know chimps game. I think about how we were acting my whole life just going to different projects all over new york just different neighborhoods and just being out there with cameras and just film in like it was all good when i look back now my fucking crazy like we really think about that with dash why those videos of like fucking like the ones who passed away. That was like going to people's heads and shit like that's that shit was like i guess appealing to people because it's like. Oh he's going to like where they hang out at blah blah. We were just talking about that. Kids block boy and what what what did he do. He watch a bunch of six nine and he thought that's how you get famous. You're right because he's famous now. Yeah but and now the kids dead. Now though you're trying to emulate that no like it it could go either way you know. No no. I don't really go either. Way usually goes way. Yeah have you run around also. Most ninety nine percent of the time is going to go the way of you probably just dying so yeah you don't try to six nine and tried until he was already six nine digit surrounded by off duty police officers and gang bangers and now security and off-duty police officers and not gang bangers but but but there is off duty police win. The gangbangers were around. Yeah of course. I thought videos of him walking down melrose with ten fucking after. he wasn't fucking with. I don't i i think. When he was moving he was on melrose before he snitched ten people on and gang. Bangers i don't think he has security back then that's kind of even worse you be remembering this correctly. Because he was on melrose surrounded by ten security. Yeah in a circle around. And i just calm now. Not i'm just telling you guys you guys are trying to listen because i'm saying we're talking about two different time points about him. Walking on melrose ten five times. I know you're talking about this story. I'm talking about. I am talking about when he was first coming up and gumbo area. Aaron shit nigga win he. He didn't even have money security like he wasn't in public. I king yes. That's what i'm saying. He has a kidney dilemma mark. Because that's when people start pulling up and looking for him certain places. Because i remember even the even at pioneer once he was beefing weiji and all that shit. That's when he came here. And that's what i'm saying. So we just talk about two different time points right. But i mean i was referring to earlier time point win but didn't have security but i was talking about talk about either way all right so before we get into the six nine year. We gotta talk about valentine's day. Tell me about what shitty boyfriends you guys were. I'll tell you how shitty i was. I'm not in this. You gotta valentine's day. That sounds real bad. Do i wanna tell you. I'll tell my story. I guess i tell you i mean so. My day started off completely. Nothing like i didn't. Even i made a plan to not hit them. Any girl not even try to take them out. I didn't want to get nobody jet like thing about valentine's day on balance. Because i don't a i would have had to think like oh like which which girl is worthy enough for me. To lay girl is still available on valentine's day. That's not a great bang bang. I'm saying i didn't make plans with anyone. Because i don't have a girlfriend situation series enough but even if girlfriend valentine's day i'm still trying to one of the girls that i'm giving dick to at that time of my life. I'm still like no no. Because i don't wanna be lonely anti listen. I don't want to get anything confused. I don't want it to be like you for me. I don't wanna make another one jealous. I don't wanna post one that with it is messy. Have anybody that could get jealous. Then that is the best way. You should be spending valentine's day with no. But i just like i like waiting until the day after or a couple of days at the because a woman finds out where she stands in a man life on valentine's day and a lot of boyfriends will fuck up and meals will be right there in the market. Hot and ready. Like little caesars. And she and your sleigh riding that motherfucker down when they break up so you monitor social media to see who's upset and talking about in the past. I know you monitor social media to see who seems like they're in their feelings. You'll need to deal with this baby anyway. so estimate. can i tell my story of what happened anyway. So sorry house Mr phone and you know what money got. I'm i'm very thoughtful. I'll put a lot of effort into shit and it's like i can't give that energy to just some girl that's like even a couple of times or something like that. That's not my girlfriend. I'm not gonna go out of my way to do. Some super thoughtful lasts at least spend some time with alone no anyway anyway so void in my heart. Listen this girl fucking. Call me this girl that i've been kind of like fucking fucking with recently. Whatever hanging out. She called me and was like. Are you gonna give me money. And are you gonna give me money and give me gifts on. Valentine's day hung the phone to. Because if i fucked that hard on nigga you wouldn't have to say that at all. It was an escort. She's asking for money for you to to spend time with she just literally asking you like. Do you wanna be my john on valentine's day. I've been person who gets press. I've been fucking her for free and hanging out with her is not. She's not trying to ever gave her money. I'm never giving money for any time to ask. I know no but you know what she has. She said something. Like you know like like if a nigga going to be in my life he got to take care me timeshare and i respect that. But i'm like that's not going to be me. I'm sorry there's going to be hardy folk multiple times. Why would i be paying like. I only live see. We know what it is. It'd be. I think bitches be used to like fucking with these horrible sexual niggers that don't know where to stay and all that so anyway. So that was one option is taxed on. Okay listen listen listen. Now's about one option. The other option was actually this girl that are brought here. I do so much tougher for her. Like that's not. Like i do so much stuff for her. Dad like is appreciated. But like i feel like. I need to show her that like. I'm not that much of sense. So i didn't do nothing on valentine's because i do like i get her random gifts and do random shift for her like just if i know she's having a bad day she stressed out. I'll bring her some flowers. Her favorite candy. She chief keep heavy. So anytime i get like some crazy like i got this like chief key by cardigan. Shit like some companies me gave it to her. Should be your girlfriend. But i know i know her but like if no no no no no. We didn't do anything for her to show her. Let me because we had talked out right up the listen. Let me tell you. I'm not doing again. I'm saying we already had a talk that we we not going to be a relationship right now and like she kinda like push it to the side a little bit like. I can't be on that right now. So i was like. I'm not go. Try to be to our mandic on valentine's day. I'm a letter rock. I do her all the time but you did that because they would have been like. I'm professing my love to you. And i don't want you to get to come. Why are you doing anything for a girl that you fuck enough about to give a fuck about it. But i mean how. How can you do tips on random days and all of a sudden valentine's day you wanna do. I don't need your somehow random person that you have nothing to do with your like telling us that you didn't hang out of the person that don't sound like anything serious at all. He wants to be free brought us off. But if you want to be friendly buying and gives random random gifts through for girls in my life. Because i fuck with her and i want her to be around him. I live longer than not just like on some like shit like that friendship more than anything. I like just her as a person monday. Get like i'm not fucking her. I'm not doing none of that. I just i'm just saying anyway. So so those were. Those were the only two options girls even wooded took out any. But like i didn't take our nobody out in the head. Nobody up whatever boom some at. The crab is biz. His me of late night. The what you want to go to this bar by fuck it. let's go. We got to bar. We eat him. This negative i sit in front of me for like hour. He turns around and he's like all want to be that do that. He's fucked up. He's i don't wanna be that do but brought chew like fuck all your ship obliged data me up five times or whatever he starts buying this drinks. He's i guess it's after hours ago blah and i'm like me and shorty you're drunk now or both your story you're like that. I ended up the most random party. Bow so yes so me and her are both what we look like. Flogging let's go we go to the fucking thing it isn't. It can take an uber and auto bro company car with me out yvonne. Well she could have been a series. That's what i'm saying. Wow they just ran a fan. Gary well he had. He had car her so car pants. And some dunks and card sweater he was like a. He's like the quit li- the equivalent of like a tiktok skater. Nigga with small. beat the fuck outta that ripped. Mr foam beat the out of that. No chance i use on some devious shit. It was not he was like he was like drunk but then he started getting so annoying. I had yelled at him to shut the fuck up and then once we got a party. I left him and that was it then. I went home after romantic. I wear we got a hotel room with me and my girl and baby so as a very different type of sneaky sound. He should have sent the baby to the parents and went. Text me. he was like yeah. We alibux yeah mouthed. Post up with the baby. I mean. you can't really do a lot when you have a three month old. That's why aren't you drive. Drive the bleed the baby where your mom i mean. She don't really like leaving the bay for long periods of time because it's still breastfeeding and women. Get attached dash dash dash. Sometimes the kid will like trip lever with like a grandma or some shit. Fillet eight hours or some shootings. We'll just crowds. I'm there's get pissed. Not not the whole time. She gets pissed off at a certain point because she's just so used to being able to be next door mama saying last week you realize you're explaining my nieces late. That will my sister. She would not leave her side. Like at all is crazy. Because it's like you you as the dad. You wanna help as much as possible. But there's a lot that you just cannot really do shit because they wanna be there. They wanna be nestled up on the boob. That's it nothing else is going to make him happy. So i had a pretty tame valentine's day but it was fun. You seem like you really don't want to talk about this cuban's era didn't for all children take a look at my girlfriend. She's on the un. I got bad at it opened up. I remember that song no. What was the gym class. Heroes and I were the our remember this. I remember somebody saying that tiger was related. Shadows mccoy are joking. Who's that allows. Oh fucking look like fucking twelve years ago. I'm the opposite of out of the loop. Not saying like bro. that was like cultural. like rosenheck. love their cell big too like they were big bro. It's all great to me greek. To me i keep saying it's all great to me around people and they think i'm actually talking about greek appear speeches. How would you there like a rap. Rock group mc travvy mccoy leads this guy. He was a rapper. But then there was like the hooks would be like sing songs. Guitar chip it was like india. Walk the fine line and walk the fine line of rap rock. Yeah it was fire. You're you remember Like swayze is a loves ways he broke see was buzzer nala cisco adler and i think i heard that he was in alabama. But i never happening with that is. He's one of the guys from the band from talk to people in shwe's use the black guy and a white guy they had a show on. Mtv they were lit bro. They were off that one song they had a show on. Mtv road had another size of love. I know they did have another honor. Remember the. I have no idea how i don't know about the stuff this was because they was lee bow. This is this is busy. Listen anal cut using a fucking was full-time year. We talking here. I'm going to tell you the artist. I was listening to the most that year. Two thousand eleven light to nine the gym class. Heroes were still doing it. Thought gym class heroes. Nine thousand nine most listened to rapid seven main walker flock income like two thousand one wa flight income. Not true two thousand nine to six now. What about three thousand six. We're at three thousand six. I was still listening to g. Union dip set but also probably starting to listen to like jay z and gucci and You definitely listening to flock yet in two hundred six. But you're completely miss remembering history of you. Don't think that walk out in two thousand nine hundred. Although five you weren't listening to salute shoot minute salute me or shoot me came out. I mean enough. Pull it up. Oh let's do it was. I thought that was i two dozen. I don't know maybe it was nice over there. Because i was living in texas when we were first. Walk again so i was in doubt. China's day care you typing walk-a-thon. Let's do it. Sorry you heard me josh. Yeah but i yeah. I was like but we were also on walk. Well i guess oh. Let's do it was kind of started that walker. That was the beginning man now but like i'm just thinking him. I thought i was away older when she was coming out. But i was like in those ailing ninth grade club fucked club book club of three six. Now a bye bye in the album thousand nine salute me or shoot me was the mixed that we are listening to my brokering williams that we that is a bmx pro. He still i swear. Every time i taught him. He's still quoting songs from that. Fucking album like well. Have you not listening to do now. You have friends that are still stuck in a generation of music. Yes i'll hang out with my friends. I went to high school with and they'll throw the song car and i'm like you still on. This is twenty years ago. Bro haven't changed the way mix tapes hong phat it sound so dated to me now but it's not something. I should still be smart sticks. The mix tape shit was the ship that was like not mixed mastered. It sounded like it sounds better because they got better about this quad up. And then he went to the other ones. You remember squad up tape series away. Wayne's like group. Yeah i had a girl in texas that i was hanging out with in two thousand nine and i was listening to a lot of wayne and gucci and shit i i really like put her on to listen to rap that she had never really listened to wrap them on. I go away for a year at comeback at texas again. The girls car. She's listening gut-gutted mixed tape. I'm like no. You gotta find tune what you're listening to here. Maybe this is not the section of the cash money discography that you want to be focusing your time on. No offense gotta gotta. But no. I had i had crazy. Yeah got it was fired shipping nutrition career. I mean i don't know about his career but his earlier his his early to his early shit with so far. I was a huge wayne fan. I can't think of any of the cash money affiliates from that time late. Two thousand ten thousand nine hundred. They're running air was wayne riding with from cash money heresy. They had a little run together. He wasn't tiger. Hits hits on hits but enrique. I'll think about the wayne mixed tigers. Not all over the wing money era. My bad no. i mean. Obviously talk about that money. Are you drinking. Nikki is like a million stars from that era but no no no. Yeah the way wasn't really rapidly. Anybody from the that was all i mean. His when he was at his best was when he was just house. Fuck out making these mistakes. Dip set south pushing for low. While i was like how does it feel. My face came out. i know they had. They had the song. I can't feel my. I mean back. Then they used to have like fake leaks and they will put mickan still people doing it on youtube of putting up like fake skin. Ask mix tapes. That sound better than they are. Somebody sent me a fucking fake drake album. The album early. I did leak. But i listened to. I never listened to like unless unless it's like a weird playboy cardi snippet where they reinterpreted. Shit i used to do all the time. You will get a completely different sounding tape that you thought that you would have. I mean we're dr trying came out a couple of days and weeks before that they had a whole different route to that was hard and thought was the almond album. Come out and this. Is you know what that was. That was probably just some old these mic say by power the dollar or some shit and and they just snatched slap that you would know that artists had album coming out like oh wayne has a mixed tape coming all my face. There was a million mistakes on at the bodega in new york and shit like oh look on my face you look at the song list is already out with the garbage especially if it's like some old random makes them up because that never even heard of before like People man that was crazy. The dip set era of just new mistakes coming out every day but it would be like one new song like three new songs of star of the tape and then all song to end the tape so that they could just have fucking project all the time. I block a purpose lady. Bird game of Pity shit on all the time. Stay purposely debar. Gang chefs bug. No i'm a veteran veteran tenth grade i was a varsity letterman introduced to crack. Now we headed to maryland fees knocking out the door. Go ahead no freaky freezing us fire to me. Can i get a size. Bub update the fuck is he doing. Where are you men. act crazy song. I never heard somebody. Somebody tweeted that. This is the only shots we hear. Sorry pooh that's just so that took a long break there and hit great word though i will listen to a lot of chassis levy. Oh listened to that tape so many times already can't even listen to it anymore. It's just fucking. I listened to way too much really. That's audio play way cardi album when he came out though i haven't bought into vampire doesn't get it. Who robin sound. Yeah for sure if you really think about. There's a lot of bars that standouts me on the push icy mix tape that. I'm just like this is so evil when he says if a guy if you're if you man's killer dead don't wear no r.i.p shirt. I'm like oh lord if kids out there take that lyric literal then the world is going to hell because that just means more and more people to get killed. She didn't kill anybody if you don't wanna get that's not what the league is saying. Actually saying that your friend gets killed and you have to kill the who killed him before you can even more in him that if somebody put man on arpey shirt bro. You have to avenge umbro if i'm riding dies out. How they're going to be blocks springing up his fucking neighbor's house to make it clear that it's i got home. He's will so it's okay. Him say that he has been the blocker. you know. Want stupid josh shirt off. Kill one that we can agree on is not offensive. Yuri got killed. I like i guess. If you're a heart attack we don't have to stop our heart disease. We don't have to end out. We have the end it. Yes we do. And riley going to be lauren london so recipes. Okay moving along with the podcast. What about six nine six. Nine meek mill. We we've been arguing about this holiday inn tex-mex watching it went from that to whole other. She should just give house on the floor to try to make his argument before. I go ahead and start voicing my opinion some shit. I don't really okay mic. That should have gone outside. I don't think we should have gone. Sat okay so. When i first saw the video my first reaction was just like what the fuck is going on. Nothing is even happened in nobody swinging on each other. Whatever and i was like everybody's gonna post this then. I didn't even really think about it. Then i'll watch this video from wack one hundred and the way he was explaining it and then i watch the other video from academics and i compile all these thoughts together and i was like you know what these was right. So what do you think meek should have done so it would have been better than what images paint. I'm marie. i'm reiterate some of the points that i heard from other people have been. You can't just steal their. I'm not stealing. i'm saying plagiarizing. how am i played. I her basically got keep the same energy bro. You beating up niggers in the nike store with that one leg. Quintanilla quit miller ohka. They beat hop out the web chasing safari down the street beating. This nigga is for an and in those situations. Those people didn't even really do anything too crazy trish Let's let's disrespecting meek and nikki so much at that time. If nothing could happen to them. And i spoke with safari but when i handled that situation with safari like a boss if you see somebody that you have very serious with and you are. The famous rich rapper. You have couple of your home. He's go squabble with them beat us a little bit shoot them. They shot traumatize them. Too bad he was back to normal life the next day a little not on his head. When clinton miller do clinton miller was actually on meek mill cy kinda. I don't remember exactly but apparently he felt like somebody had to do something to quinton miller. I mean it is what it is. I'm saying that that. I don't see how either those situations really reflect on how meek is supposed to handle that situation with six nine volk him into doing a crazy response and this is my thing. I was thinking about earlier today. If jay z was meek mill. Barack obama was meek mill. If anyone was in that position of meek mill. You're leaving the club and you gotta internet troll. And he's surrounded by security and he's on his phone film and you are ready. He is a federal informant. That's effect but are you gonna do jazy kept on. jc problem. Stop the yellow jersey. Jesse would have kept can say something jay z and all those in obama and all those people that you just name would have never even started going on this campaign to get him out of here and be like. I'm like we got you know what the basis of hip hop is based off of. No yeah of course. But i'm saying like bro so if you snitch your out no that's a fact but meeting was going to hard on it and then there's a pop you from if you from do not but moderate their ship okay. You can't say that you can't say that he's not tolerated. And then when you see the nigga you don't even try to do you don't even try to square up. You said you stand that you spend on a row by happened inside the club we spend on. What is a restaurant that it could be a. If you told on a whole organization you feel me. You're just like eight. Your agent codey banks from now on. You're not supposed to. I wouldn't wrote a nuclear walk past me bro. i'm not gonna talk touch the nigga if iowa one of every show up your acting like was on twitter or whatever saying he ran he ran. It's like meek was saying that he was gonna kill six nine. That is not even close to what was let me talk. Let me talk. What was mixing meek. Said you're a snitch. You shouldn't be accepted within hip hop anymore. Culture shouldn't support you endorsed. Big is crazy as gangster candy craziest gangster and that doesn't change the fact that you can't go and fucking shoot at or fight a federal informant. Who has already on instagram. Up on some gangsta shit. Being on instagram already makes you a snitch. Somebody you're not answering your already okay. But he's filming has to say that if you are filming then you already are not the kind of person that i wanna be with. I'm at my store but when we had the store. If i'm walking outside my store and i see something he's trying to fight me or something and he's filming is automatic. I'm not in any way to exit a situation. I don't feel like i'm leaving that situation losing face or looking like a posi. 'cause you're recording on your phone as i'm not in the equation of your phone. I'm not saying none of that. And and honestly at the end of the day like my nigga it would have been ignorant for him to go out of his way to get himself in trouble by doing that. But all i'm saying is dislike bro. Keep that same energy if that's how you fell and you wanted to be like i'm bigger than the situation like are you know like i'm not. I'm not going to be subdued to this nonsense that you shouldn't even be speaking on. You shouldn't be wasn't talking. Tough is say when bono is different. I say when. I see this nigga. I'm a slap should of him or i'm gonna do something like that i don't think makes up. He ain't said nothing like that. He's saying what everybody is saying. He's a rat. He does not belong in hip hop no more but he region more gone being academic site. That got your address like that but look but guess guess wait wait wait. Wait a minute but guess what. He acting like the ham and academics go back and forth with each other. That's different. that's a man thing if you go back and forth right him in six nine go back and forth all the time but it is a difference. If i say when i see house phone i'm gonna slap the shit out of him and i see you do nothing. That's a whole different story. If i don't respect you if i don't like you i don't have to put my hands on you for that. I just don't know what you did. Snitch is. I'm gonna keep a push to you gotta think about legal situations wise broke. This is a nigga stupid. Time for fucking hidden showed his leap standpoint. They want to get out of here. And you're gonna you're going you're going to get into with somebody that has cameras out. Wants to get you out of here. You know what i'm saying like no nigga you snitch you meek correctly perceived the situation as a fucking joke and a situation that was set up for him to get his ass on back in prison and he acknowledged such he kept pushing. I don't think you can't say i sat at home. It was. I send milk back to jail today. Listen to record. Got into arguments in the club. Allegedly like section in the club's six nine station. The club allegedly the spitting having in the club. I walk by spit at six nine. Six nine waited outside the classroom. I'm shocked that there was video for on. This is how it happened i. That's the meek was saying that he spit on him out during that situation like pass a security which also it makes sense to me if gio bro everybody would have sit there. He said and then terrell at higher now though negative and act like that all the time wrote the don't fucking don't like don't even show me what to six nine said. He was no putting him. I mean i'm just saying he was gonna crush them as he's got to get him out of the game. Instagram live clip of meek. Where meeks said when i see you. I'm a pop you. Of course he'd ever said. I don't think that he did anything hypocritical. And i don't think you want the best for rappers. he's only take. Listen if you want if you want the best for rappers if you want the best for young black entrepreneurs than you can't have any opinion of this situation that meet. Bill did the right thing. He did the only intelligent thing that he could possibly on in that moment. And it wasn't in but nigga all turn wait. What are you talking about though if you say listen if you saying. You don't like somebody. Whatever i say this all the time. I don't fuck with nick snitch. That'll mean i'm going to try to attack in fact if you haven't if you know they're a snitch and you see them just what no matter. How much problem you. How i expecting another do nothing to you almost like you as simulating by being but with this nigga blah blah making it like publicly. No if you. Don't you make a publicly known because if you are so called street rapper right and if people are trying to turn them a lot wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute if somebody is trying to turn. Basically the industry is trying to turn a blind eye to snitching. You know that's gonna do. That's going to tell kids that you can get in hip hop you can tell on somebody and you could be prosperous as somebody's voice for the streets. You lead motherfuckers nowhere. I don't fuck with that. And that's at the same time. Think about how many other big rappers bigger says the same sheet single represents the majority of who see everybody sets up nobody. Nobody has named dropped six nine like that and like win on a real campaign like fuck him. Fuck like bob. La like meek mill. Did he say he was going to attack him. Though it's late let me say this. Six is also not stupid. He also knows that if he did that to lord dirk he probably would have got killed or something probably on security and me went to meek mill because he knows that meek mill probably like i said with his lengthy his lengthy police history. He probably knows that meek mill is probably going to be the one that is not going to do anything. And that's why he went up into the mike but bro anybody in that situation like defending six. No no no no. I know that this is. This is what the line draws you. Don't have all these big ass security gore trying to start some she. Lets say you really want to get to somebody. It ain't nothing to tell your security. Hey let me get the one on one off camera and keep pushing it. That's what it is. You feel if you really wanna fight. They said meek mill said that too. Okay so that's what you're supposed to do. Hey move out the way. Y'all could monitor motherfucker and let us beat the shit out of each other and keep the ship pushing and don't do the internet games. But real nick is gonna do shit differently. This is the thing is that we need to normalize rappers who from the streets. Having an opinion on the internet or publicly and then seeing people that they have spoken about and not feeling the need to fight or shoot at them. That's how if you look at politicians. If you look at people in hollywood they could have an argument in the public around. They can argue about some shenault podcast and then they see each other and they don't fight each other emeka case he just didn't allow this guy to bait him into a situation that would probably ruin his whole life if he had behaved the way that he probably felt like. There's a big part of me that would have liked to holler out his over in the clearest terms. Tell me tell me one situation. That could one out of the whole situation may have done better. He could've made it look good. He's let s. You could at least try to smack the bone out his hand tried to. Why was fucking pussy. Got you pussy. Dude he got two security guards all this shit pop off like this is a choose your own adventure. Book utah me. What meek mill should have done better. I say you're seeing should've heart and lung better. that's just dumber. I guess that's worse. Voted packed out bodies. Big ass. x-men man nick. I would've took the packer. If i if i wanted to get demand i don't feel meek wanted to get six now ask if you negative that much. It doesn't matter these spin on his opinion on aug niches. Somebody can somebody can directed towards rovers. Yes a bow. But that doesn't mean that he needs to throw his life away just because he sees his life ends up getting in a shootout with another rapper. Claude guests that is going to be a situa- tweet guns there now. Never definitely guns. Bill's going to the club. And he don't have armed security within a fucking moving all right seen certain rappers get punked in front of me and i would never do a fucking record with them. I would never do a video with them. And i've told their labels. And i respect it because i've seen nubia punk. That don't mean that. I dislike you if somebody asked me. Yeah i watched. I need to get hunt. That's not saying that get pumped in this. No no. What i'm saying is is that i don't if i don't like the way somebody handle the situation and i feel like you pump. They don't have a problem with you. That doesn't mean that. I i'm trying to attack you now if i sit there and say when i see this nigga slap shit out of him and then this situation happened and i don't do nothing then you could call me a bitch i get you. I mean i'm just a. I made my point i like. I hear what you're saying is just like they both looked stupid at the end of the day. And then if you listen to the clubhouse shit when meek and ak was getting into it what it makes say he said he talked to other rappers and they were going to try to ignore six nine so he can fucking burn the fuck out. You see what i'm saying. They didn't try to. It's different if it's like you know what everybody be on the office. It don't make no sense of somebody's working with the police. To be on office your. There's no way you're gonna fucking win broke. That's like going against the cops more than if you kill a service dog my nigga you're going to get more than a dozen that situation the more. He's just helping six nine career because the truth is that six nine did not do anything. Put any records outgoing and strategy set for like five six months. Then he put out a snippet a couple of weeks ago shirt. People listen to people talk about a little bit but it didn't really make noise like hip hop the way that it used to wear a bunch of terrible attack people talking about the beard more than the music. But i'm saying is that six nine correctly. Knew that if he wanted to get headlines and he wanted to be the talk of the town the hasta basically enter into a situation like the one that he tried to make happen meat to his credit. We're all talking about him. He has to create a situation in which we're talking to have a personal everybody right. You don't have a personal problem with six nine now. You don't have a personal problem with six nine. I don't have a personal problem with him. I don't give a fuck. Did you feel what i'm saying. And i think that's the most industry is like he snitched. We don't fuck with them. What it is wants to hurt him unless you do something to somebody. Then that's a whole different story for you. He's he's rat. He's a federal informant. You can't really be for somebody like that. If you're the type of person who wants to settle the conflict by shooting somebody. Well the biggest dummy in the history of the world if you shoot a rat and it's already talk of the and your street cred is gone once you tell and like i say if if six nine she go fucking do spanish music or something like that and make money like it is what it is but you can't talk about street if you don't do the st cobra when you don't move to st way and that's can be going out of your way to beat up civilian and be in regular niggers that aren't what did we talk about las vegas over nigga kill over dick and pussy ship more than they do gang sheets more than they would do more money. Broken nearly essential video man. Oh somebody fuck my bitch. I'm gonna kill them when niggers get in the line when you when you fuck with. Somebody's apps and certain things or said at the end today is way more personal. So let's not make. It seem like that. She wasn't personal. You feel what i'm saying safari shit if you remember correctly safari wild and he got a little addicted to the cloud there for a while. He was saying some pretty crazy shaded at that point when megan nikki are really together. Anything that he says. This is back tournament or about nikki period when you're whether you're going to be looking at his disrespect to me and i'm not trying to like the normally get on here and just like go crazy. Defendant meek mill. I for the most. I do like his moves. I see him as moving intelligently for the most part i think he i think he handled the situation perfectly. I think i probably would have handled the situation same way. I feel like if you were in the same situation you would have done it. And i think that people a thousand times more successful than any of us. They were smart. They would have handled the only people that would have handled the situation differently. A dummies who wanna fuck you had to like. I said it's all about how you approach situation. If i say. I'm a slap household and i see you and i'm just whatever are let's say the same situation a bitch i'm a bitch. I'm just saying that. Also to like he might pig meek mill to do that for a reason because he feels like meek mill probably has the most lose meek mill is probably the one that would like to react. I think it's not even that cut and dry. I think the nick got spit on. He was upset and just popped up on a nigga. I don't know what they saying. How is there not a video of that. Nigga spits on user even or not say at least be shitty quality video of that that is there even video of six nine actually inside of the club. I didn't see any of the what i'm saying. I saw snaps bitch that were in the club with meek mill. The only thing is is that would have been able to get into that section of the club where meek mill's ride was picking him up or whatever service john or whatever unless he was already in going let you come in to harass people who are leading the club that the security even let him linger in that part where he was able and i felt like when he was tweeting about saying like. This is crazy ridiculous. Let's not get a real. It's not going to take the situation seriously because it's a joke. I thought it was a joke. He just six nine dimly to his credit. That's why that's why he deserved. It gets back but what works for six nine rolling and to be fair and everybody. We talked of his acts. This is this is one of the funniest most ridiculous things that i've seen him do that. He could still get everybody talking about. He can't do it on his own he's got to take somebody like meek mill who has more to lose and he's gotta make him a bit player in his whole little thing you know. What did y'all have just love to see. Mcmil actually get his hands on him and beat him up to would just have made. It should happened. Yamamoto security square the cameras down. Y'all nigga get you be what i'm saying and it is what it is and you know six never would never what happens security on those each of us guys let you it security. Lets you fight someone else and all of us. I guess what should lose their jobs because they're not doing their jobs. They let you do that. If if i guess what you pay them if say say so i could get down with this person. Y'all monitoring the situation. Y'all can be armed. You feel me. Y'all watching everybody back. let the shooter fair one. Do feel me and keep him does way more. And then guess what would happen. Multiple has been like well. At least it's nine got out. I don't know anything about meals hands. But i think in a fistfight i mean i. I'm pretty sure he's gonna wash them right. That's what i would think. But i don't know i mean there was a video boxes but i still think i still think even want it's not about winning and losing is about if you wanna get down with somebody get beat the dog show each other and keep them moving. See six six nine in mcmil. Some rizzo rizzo maximum doubted. Be amazing cool right. I've lost health is it. I knew i was gonna lose. But i'm i'm just not gonna turn it down. That's why i said earlier about the one. The one thing that i hate the most. I don't give a fuck if i now now. Now i'm gonna hold you to. Because i lean urge you say so much so when you see this nigga you better beat the shit out because they have not exact- i can't be i want you to my head. I'm i'm not allowed to talk to you if you turn it down. I'm never talking to you again. The bitch as soon as i mentioned that situation. It's like that's a situation that pisses me off enough. That i might just have to do something crazy. Fuck about the future. I don't think that's a good thing. I got putting into the mother talk about this situation so much john nick. Don't do well him a little more. But if y'all wouldn't. I wouldn't expect adam to fight but i'm holding i'm holding nigger standards broke out a do it do it please. We're loser draw. You do say farmer. Say house phones. Pack on got too many rules in life. But i ain't fighting no homeless parts. You probably got a hypodermic needle. And that's why finding something on chris birth. I with the way i had. I had homeless people downtown. Say the most fucked up shit to me. Keep on walking near you have themselves agreement by this. Go ahead buddy. I've been caught it. I've been called nigger by like crazies before the homeless people. You gotta just do whatever i feel like. My hand is gonna stink exactly rona wrote. You punch him in the mouth teeth. Cut your hand. You got a real good punch. Deep cuts should go clinic right away. You tetris shot. I'll punched his wife. Scammer kid they used to come to the store all the time. I put them in the mouth after a show one time and his tooth broke in half on my knuckles and i never went to the hospital or nothing about it. And it's just like that's why you're lizards getting now my hands point with them. Goddamn down rings. Oh well why are you gonna wear them. Doesn't case you ever have four fingering. Nah right now. The audience rope. You still got a a little mini dookie. Imagine you carter. I got a little mini. Dookie pas advisory on this many dookie. I just a mini dookie kooky. I'm lacking i'm spooked. How do you feel about wack take basically like it's like nobody really cared that much about here. Meakin six nine argue about this and six nine to his credit has been go since this happened. We got to hear further impressions of as he looked stupid to whack of took six nine. 'cause and you know wagon somebody that's close to me. He's been on this platform and then came on the show. He didn't look out for me. A latte right. That don't mean that. I have to agree with everything and then to i understand where wet comes from wet. Comes the prison yards bro. Where it doesn't matter. If you want your man you have to go get your man. It doesn't matter. Quincy going to the whole riots. Getting stabbed we think about the consequences more thinking about the consequences less. Just throw caution to the wind fight. Whoever in a bad situation but he comes from a different level of gang umbro and interview understand the structure where he comes from them. Niggers have way more different outlook when it comes down to what i'm saying so i understand where wack is coming from what he's saying if he wants his man. It doesn't matter polices around. It doesn't matter what whoever the puck his he said in front of police he said he said at the front of the precinct. I wouldn't give a fuck and guy keeps us would neither i. so then. how are you acting like. I'm saying something crazy. I'm somebody who doesn't wanna see wag one hundred go to jail so for me. If somebody tests whacked in front of a whole bunch of cops. I would hope that would be able to be like at least. I'm a handle the situation at a slightly tries to come. He doesn't get down. Like i would love to see it. More normalize proactively keeping himself out of a situation. I don't know why knocked out stitches in front of the club with cop cars literally all around. Because he wanted he wanted to get his stitches approached him but obviously didn't have security. Whatever stitches was going to the game. And this is not a federal informant to his credit. And then to bro. I don't think that anytime that meek felt like six nine was going to attack him her no. He felt that that was an antic and he so he can do feel threatened. Like something physically happened to you. Then you have to defend yourself no matter who the fuck is around. He said he said we will be smoking. Six nine pack if you just pop up and you don't know who i am saying so nigga broke if you pull up on me and i don't know the fucking i didn't. I didn't have the blaming ready for a bunch of guests has been here. Yeah i know that shit right there and this is you feel me. Hold it in front of my every every time. We're at a festival or something. I run up on this nicaragua. Dues like like random and then he hosted just crazy you always with. I know they're gonna let me break through next time. You see me. And i got kevin samuel security when i wish it they might fuck me up there in suits and jammed up. They shot to dot with some random running up on adam. But i was really lesson. No shit like him their highest book all of a sudden i feel poked me in the back grabbing on the shoulder because you know he traumatized when apartments before after all the fuck outta man adam sell dope. Yeah i don't know it was an exciting Time over the weekend because to be honest the hip hop news cycle has been pretty goddamn dry there. At least we saw that i. This is a conversation that we could all have. Because everybody's going to have an opinion about how each hand in that situation. Everybody was waiting to talk about that way. But i didn't wanna bring back quick though doesn't Don't they like have prior like makes it even prior should about alice in megan into it. But why were they about what i honestly. I don't remember. I remember that they were into it though. So it's like wax came off a lot more passionately. But at least one thing that i could say about whack is he's he's gonna he goes on what he stands because while almost everybody in hip hop has been completely silent about the ti al-naga. You got fucking whack out here. Just go in on. Ti really. like i mean what does he he. Not fuck t. I already doesn't excuse. Like he says the politics wag does not excuse anybody if it's cut and dry to him right. It's not like okay. Cool guy so. I look at it this way. A lot of people do that. Just sit there and say well. This artist heights overlook this. I'm not trying to call wax opinion on this into question. But don't you think that wack probably would not be saying all this about meek already have an issue with me. I i feel like if would wack was saying he's standing on what the fuck he feels. I believe that what i'm saying after i was done i'm telling you like i didn't have like a very like i wasn't even really waiting. You literally seen did you see the footage of fucking white guy coming in the white house. He just trip out the fuck off my property did. I'm here but i'm saying i want. Once i got done watching the video. He puts so many different things into perspective. That didn't think about and about how how he was acting with other people except for this situation i was like you know what am but think about it. You were very influenced by wax video. Academic who already hate mcmillan are just going to go against them. Regardless and now that i think about why arina already having a problem with me i understand but i stands for. Yeah nigga the way they're wacko to handle. The situation is what he's coming saying that she'd like basically you if you gangster if you if you moving away like that street rules and shit like that you see your enemy you post get off on your enemy no matter when the beef between me and whack now oh my god you see me going crazy and wacky comments shit on trawling him now. He's six nine. Why exactly. I don't know what's going to happen with that little conflict. That's going to be interesting. But that's shit that shit that don't need to be televised and the street way. Keep pushing you think with happen. I don't care. I don't know who who make up for taps in with in la. But i'm sure that there's all kinds of conversations going on behind the scenes. Hey man it is what it is is going to be what is going to be. That's eighty man. Hey i'm gonna be real with you though i ain't. Nobody lives in nine record even if he talks about this thing. Actually you know. I think it's kind of crazy. Is that when he came back. And he had that snippet he's completely entered into the fantasy realm because he's now he's saying i robbed and shot every all you average you didn't robert shoot one rapid talking. I maybe he was referring to that situation where someone just tried to sue him. Recently for like Let you didn't see that like maybe like a month or so ago. Like they tried to say he'd strong-arm robbed. You didn't see a rapper. Said that it wasn't a rapper. But it was doing because he said nigga six nine hundred. Ira shot all you rappers. He's all you niggers rapper. Away rob shoot completing. Listen i'm not trying to like like fucking defenders and again i'm just pointing out little in discrepancies saying that there is something that just happened. Maybe a month or two ago where someone was suing him because they said oh it was as video of a to some guy was talking shit to them and like someone that was with six nine punch nigger an initiative was trying to like sued six nine like six on my and robbed saying that the negative. But i'm saying like he might have been referring to that. It would be really weird. If he was referring to a situation in which he didn't rob or shoot anybody to say that he rob somebody. I don't what part of like the guy is trying to sue six nine saying that he got beat up and robbed by six nine even though he did it. Why would he not be referring to that. What do you mean just happened. Guilty by association. If you're fucking prising people know that you got the money somewhere your entourage place. I'm saying wentz's nine says it is a fantasy. I think you're kind of missing the point. That when he says that you're missing the point that just happens. So why not be referring to nothing like that just howdy. You're trying to tie in a situation that he was talking about. I don't think anyone suggested that. Okay i'm just you gotta be able to have conversations. He was referring to that in that iraq. I'm just throwing out a theory that he could be because this is a situation. I'm just trying to sue him saying that six nine and his camp beat up and robbed him. But that's just that's plural. Heat is put out a snippet low. Like how how can how can that not be some type of little correlation. Maybe it's not. As is she saying he's living in a fantasy world is running around with cops and he's acting like he's tough and it's like i'm impressed that he's trying so hard that he's actually continuing to add gangster even though it's like ben one hundred percent proven that that's not how he gets down. This nick is a fucking idiot. it's crazy long. Yeah but What what else was in the news or anything else. We need to get just want to make it clear. I'm not trying to defend them guy just trying to. I'm trying to lay facts on the line. So i think he's trying to on the trae west might be having the goons for you again. That's what gonna kill me begin. Russ us now. I like who was as he's asked me about a few artists over the last few years. Just random people that he just wants some some details about ross talented foot. I'm going to be honest. Not my cup of tea. But he be running it up on streams installed producing rana brecqhou in the engineering ogling. When that nigga bro. I remember when everybody talk shit about him. This nigga literally was headlining arenas by himself people singing this shit word from word so you can't really talk bad about a neglected. I'm glad you could say the sending them with six nine right. He plays huge venues. Sing along word for word. Getting ton of money. But i'm just saying i mean you can talk about. Somebody's doing very well. I'm not talking about ross. But the logic of nobody say anything bad about because he's very successful. No that's not how the world no no no. I'm just saying as far as talent wise and how he moves is different when somebody says from the streets and they move to streets. If you're not a fucking gangsta rapper. And you just drop him using. It is what it is. You're fucking but low key nigga about for two things one look at everyone and their career where they're at now. That was decent rest the couple of years ago. Where the fuck or any of. Those negative comment nike for me. That's one and then to hot scheme as well. I mean he got ran up on my russell. The him to it didn't go as far as some of the other situations but to win the happy. I don't remember. They actually got anywhere near scheme as if it was just taken out on scheme all. They smackdown smacked but they had a confrontation backstage at the festival. But i think that they were hollering at scheme. On behalf of i think scheme had some anti russ bars at the time i remember. It's been a while. Bro bro bro. I like that people talk she. And he's sending people at a small park moses collab- out he's still doing just fine. No fuck no. I try and listen to that tape. I'm his new his new ep. I'm going to be honest like some of the songs were like cool. What purp- media. I was told you. I love you purposes. Well actually i love that song was that thank you. Yes engagement is still strong. I still feel like that. He has a family. He's not him to drop dope music. I feel there's still a base of people that want to support perp. I feel like with a lot of people like including pump. They're still they're famous. They can have a song. Were stop nobody nobody also. I'm going to be honest just like from the beginning. Smoke perp was just obviously enzymes more talented music musical wise than then little pump and i feel like he could have made it last longer if he was in the director position as I actually agree that. I think pert might have more at least more willingness to try but i think obviously like low pump had starpower. Yeah they're really like state. A power duo. I think that both careers would be in better places. I think it's good that they actually are on good terms now. But that's my whole thing with perp and all these soundcloud rappers and everything is i'm their careers are done. It's just now. It's about just the music and i think the if if smoke were to make a real deal comeback. I think everybody would love to talk about Small prayer in a big crazy comeback. Because there's been a lot of rappers over the years they kind of fell off and then they come back and everybody has the best all change blocking change left to change to wasn't supposed to be what he is due. C. j. d. up does is almost impossible to have a good comeback in hip-hop but when it does happen is struggle. He came out and tiger. Had it a few times where people thought he was totally done. They came back. They they left tiger in the dirt. You're right and like i said like even the the The p. of smoke. That i heard now. I didn't listen to florida. J. one at all but this one it was. It has some salt in there. That i was all right like you know i. I don't see why. I think it's more of a medium to hate on some people than it is that they actually don't like their music because smoke purpose is still making good music but is maybe not as marketable. The thing is that if you're making just good music these days and you're not necessarily change and shit are really creating like a big like you know i think about who is. He pushes the other crazy as moment in his career. Lil a huge part of it is the fact that he has one massive fucking song right now like like bagging blood is to push is d- what gucci gang was too low. That's the thing that's like. His career was already doing good. And then they just shot him out of fucking cannon but the thing is is like if you're pushing the how do you manage the rest of your career because we've seen a lot of average who have a unique flow unique sound and they have a big song and then they kind of follow up but then also when i look at pujols yeah think about twenty one twenty one km twenty one could have been a flash in the pan. Twenty one really showed development over the years and and really like can't make bangers kept kept killing it and now it's like it don't feel like anybody ever rid of twenty one. He's gonna be a rally. Evolution of twenty one is dope as well to to see what he came and how what he stands for now and stuff like that even like the able to to keep evolving because when he came out it was just pure straight streep. Shoot 'em up music. He is right now is going to be able to turn the corner and show more depth and have career like twenty one or is push is he gonna get put into a box and at a certain point not able to keep the fence interested by growing and changing but see people defense binds personalities. So you wrap in what. You're talking about lee if you're wrapping what you're talking about and people are seeing results of that. Yeah then they're like okay. This jesus saying should happen with the baby. They like spot legit every since he came out. He's been standing on with this shit he's rapping about as why people are buying into it and that's why the nigga is successful the way to here. And that's why. Nick nick is no like there's is no smoke perv is not chop ago. Five five whatever the fund. That's that's not what you want. Goal is to get fan base of a die hard fan base. Where when you don't have a hit record. No more than people were still coming to your shows. The reno singing the songs and shit like that. Maybe you may not be at the height of what you are able to sustain this motherfucker and have long jeb area. There's a certain time period where the audience like a certain percentage of the audience cares about you being real. And you being tough so much that that's almost like what they're invested in and part of it is that they're invested in seeing if you ever get pumped or if you fall off because i think all kinds of rappers over pop in and then they got beat up and it was just over. And i don't like it. Because i can't lie affects the way i think about i want. You're talking about some crazy shoot-em-up gangster shit when you get beat up and he didn't do nothing about it prime example. If you got beat have been like okay here out on this. I feel like if you got beat up in. Uh unfair way is there. Is there unfair way. You think you get packed packed the fuck. How do you really lose like that much. Respect isn't it depends. It depends what to give back. Is you feel me as zero okay. I'm talking about smug perk. For example we see and get beat up by goons on camera but do small per pop it off like he's just regard no he does not. I'm here every his songs. Yeah but his songs. I'm not saying him as saying him as a person he don't pop that shit but people take music a lot more literal now than they do aggressive. If somebody says fuck you. They deserve the question of fuck him out. But the thing is is that even though small purpose five million songs that are like i'm gonna pull up your bach and spray your blog people. I really like this guy saying that. He's a mega games. Are some people might try to put your line about it. If you're out there saying that shit but i'll think it's the same as when you know shutter. Abc neil. he was killing it for a while. he gets his ass. Beat the fuck up on camera and all of a sudden the fans don't wanna hear anymore songs about how tough you are all happens to get back is broke and because he was troll. It is so hard on the toughest guy in the world. You know like he's really lariat though. Actually it's funny. But they said that became the due to beat him. I've got kicked out of the geez. Or whatever the fuck it was like 'cause he got his shit took in atlanta so they kicked them out of the gang. Like maybe abc. Neil can make a comeback since the guy who embarrassed him apparently got kicked out the set. I kinda see seeped. Don't the cycle of how shit happens is crazy because i forgot that that even happened with. Abc news. i was such a big fan of him. I tried to donald. Trump's got one. It's all about how you handle the situation. You packed out if you take a real ale. Somebody unfairly beats you up. I'm not gonna say what you should do. But i'm just going to say that depending on how you handle you can't pop that shit get jumped and nothing happens to the person that has of how can playoffs is when x x got the worst knockout ever seen in your life what x. was not putting them out there gangster and it was so obvious that i've seen stab people in fights like i've seen xbox luke crazy ass shit is not scared experts. Want someone excellent a fox ten dudes. It wasn't about that. It got snuffed onstage. In coming up you know. Put himself out gangster. He might have been a crazy motherfucker but he was he was he would leave. We'd be poppin shit. That people know sponsorship. But he wasn't saying he was he his whole career been him saying he's from this gang and who might have been a little bit different but you know it depends on how you put yourself out there as a rapper and it depends on what the looks like also and they get back because if you beat the sheriff somebody puts them on hospital and then they fucking you know r.i.p later on people are gonna say he did it and now shukan for stock is rising. He hannity situation or somebody around. Don't but then think about like bro. Ski masks went on to have an amazing career way. More successful than the rapid at shut out to rob south rob's fuck with him but like bro he'd surpassed him and like literally left in the dust and he got beat up an embarrassing. Those two people who don't pop off like they street people bro. If you push icy song the song is telling you basically come get it back and blood and something happens to you nigger come get it back and blow. It feels like everybody kinda forgot we push is like a week and a half ago up video of him allegedly him or at least somebody was with shooting a whole bunch of guys over some sneaker purchase or some shit in a parking lot colom if we find out that who he has to go to jail for x. number of years like it's going to be surprised hopefully not but then fucking stock is going to go momma be honest own no way even though the video looked like in whatever the way that the story was broken down about him leaving the bag with all the money and all the shit. That was his bro. It looked like something it might have been a robbery. Think about that. Big down south. They have different gun. Laws that also self defense. She's on defense. he can do that. Cases is that video did not golf defense. I mean it's very young. If someone from the other car said some shit made a movement or something. Negative self defense. Yeah there's really videos of people taken out drako's and trying to kill people that get off with their ship. Bros oh but i see rock out here. I'll watch youtube series called Jcs they study. study interrogations and shit. Like that and it was his. Why guy he basically was started yelling at this black lady. Who was a part and handicap being like. You know you shouldn't be parked there. Whatever he gets out the car. He's like her window yelling her. The baby daddy comes out of the convenience store and pushes his nick on the ground. Right so he 'cause he sees his legal his baby mama the white guy pulls a from the hip and the naked turns around translate shoots and kills him and he was trying to claim that self defense because the can push them and like they were. They were breaking down the interrogation. This guy is like playing it up like he hit me from the cy. I didn't know what was going. No i didn't know how many of them there were. Like is his word versus. Here's the other guy. They had video. That's explain it to you. Because they had a video of it but if you should situation like that it needs to be like imminent threat. You have to be in danger like that. Moment him him video for it. Yeah yeah help him defy him pushing you out of the the the area of your wife and kids and pushing on the ground is not him Like about to kill you. Valence and make surveillance show that it was clearly like. Yeah okay yes it was. Just the push and also survey surveillance showed that like the guy was backing away. He wasn't advancing him like the the. Why guy was just trying to play it up so crazy. But i know he didn't get off. No that's why i feel. That's what anybody would do in that situation. You probably didn't know that there was video and so he's just trying to paint extreme. He had to do what i had to do. Brother i fell. I fell on my side. I had to retrieve that pistol. That is not what happened at all. You just shot the negative because you pussy. Why are you out of the beano as like one of those things whereas like it seems like this person was like looking for a fight or looking for something because you because he knew he had a gun. They got a sand. If all you have is a hammer everything starts to look like a nail meaning if you got a gun on you. And it's like the doorknobs broken. Shoot the doorknob. Patty pistol in the room. This yeah yeah. Drew ski has videos about that. Too would hold your shit like own guy. Walk around and try to. I mean that's what you do when you're going to the fucking gun. Range should just get right because it's so overwhelming having a gun feeling like i want to go right valentine's day. You're really was no downtime chopper. He brings it up at some talk about. I just brought it up and stuff. Then he said that's what i did. We actually let's stop talking about shooting people. What else do we have beautiful lovely. You didn't take my phone. I had takes you guys some topics before josh look through house phones phone and tell us everything that he's been doing recently also his bank account information. Sure we been a play tennis. That's what you gotta go. Do doing short wanted to be honest. 'cause pause because i'm so goddamn hungry and third and you know i'm all for like two hours of sleep. I'm not hungry. Poor guy having a good time arguing with the guy fucking well. I'm so i did. The interview did the milk one and then number ten ninety jayco here now. I don't even know what that was. Either i'm rocking wichai. The rocket which brockovich are rocking with me and like three podcasts. Rather we talked about him Milk beef with them really. And there's a video of a prison youtuber named P now i believe who who is beefing ten and they're gonna bite the hand you got the hands. I'm gonna tell you guys off camera. But i did an interview the other day and is gonna piss off at least a couple of different people that i'm cool with okay Is it going to piss me off. You're not going to be a hundred percent happy about it in the livestream right now so we can talk about this so you don't forget.

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Disney won't test, fighting snakes while driving, long term contracts, and more! (Full Show)

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Disney won't test, fighting snakes while driving, long term contracts, and more! (Full Show)

"Arrow Difference Russ. DARROW DOT COM Zave is your lead donkey into the world of sports and other stuff. twenty twenty. You'RE GONNA go on a diet for ten minutes then you'RE GONNA! quit and hey, your life Josh Stone to the gym to day featuring Josh Albrecht. YOU'RE GONNA! Go to the gym and you'RE GONNA. Want you look for buttons to push? Just yell at it until I'm skinny and Eric Gitter. Sort of what is this machine? Do tap the show on the Fella W I dot, com, talk and text line at four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven three twitter at Save, so you're to go to the gym and you're GONNA walk. Walk around and look at just sort of what is this machine? Do you look for buttons to push? Just yell at it until I'm skinny. Lose weight now, just start. Excuse me Miss I. Don't think this machines working I'm still fat now. Here's Steve Save it. Just what day it is guess what they is. Anybody Julie Guess What Day. It is come. I know you can hear me Mike. Mike Mike Mike Mike What Day is it Mike? Listening. Guess what today is. Humpty. Athlete of the weekend filling in Steve on Mike wicked. Good morning to you. It is nice to be. Closer I guess now. To the weekend, then then that dreaded Monday happy to be here as always hit us up on the Palanivel, talk and text line whatever is on your mind. Or One, four, seven, nine, nine, one, ninety, seven, three will do headlines coming up in about fifteen minutes from right now. We'll have you what's trending. and. Where do you stand? That's coming up. In the second hour of the program later on today will also chat with kb from ninety seven three, the game in Milwaukee and Matt Miller on pop culture. What's going on in movies? TV's and everything else as we're all just waiting for sports to get back Madelyn from Milwaukee Dot Com Joshua's here. Get Getter is here. We have got a very interesting topic to get out of the gate. And Listen! Everybody knows what. Is going on with the with the Kuroda virus and. I feel like as I'm watching. A lot of these shows are or whatever reading stuff on TV. online. I feel like everyone is still sort of on pins and needles. Real Quick Getter Josh. If, he were to give me on a scale of one to five. Five we are starting. We are finishing both the NBA and Major League baseball season, whether it's in the bubble or with no fans in baseball stadiums. What are your numbers? One to five five is it's happening was it's not even going to get off the ground? Too. I must say to. Get her. I think I'm four. Four okay, all right? The backbone of this program is split. Between Zulu. Confidence it's either the pessimist, the optimist or the confident. If this based on everything else, that's happened. I don't know how you can be confident. That this is. Now is the time when everything's GonNa. Go smooth sailing. Sure what could go wrong. I mean literally everything we've seen that in twenty twenty, so. Literally, if you can't go wrong, it has gone wrong. I have a poll question on my twitter account at my quick, which is the most correct about the NBA and Mlb Twenty twenty seasons both will start and finish. Baseball will start and finish the NBA will start and finish. Neither will start then finish and I don't have a fifth option that neither is willing to absorb, both will start at neither will finish I. Don't have that because twitter only gives you four options sixty six percent. Voted for, neither will start. Sixty six percent you know a couple of hundred votes here feel like the NBA and Major League Baseball at some point in the next ten days. Are GonNA come to their senses, and not and not go ahead with this, too. Many guys are going to drop out, too. Many guys are gonNA. Get sick to he. Coaches are going to get ill, too. Many coaches are not going to be allowed the bubble. To many people in Orlando or GONNA get infected. Does that surprise you that two thirds of sports, fans and most of the people that follow me on twitter are sports, fans, some reports, but most of them are sports fans. That think that two-thirds are. Passing mystic or looking at this negatively or being real whatever you want to say and think that this is not neither of these two leagues is going to get off the ground in a week and a half. That is surprising to me I. See it starting and not finishing at this point both leagues. Yes. At this point for? Them to not even attempt to not even try. would be very surprising to me. I think I agree with you on that I think they have. Between Rob Manfred and the charade that we all watched over the spring and summer for baseball, and I think that with Adam silver and what we've watched with the NBA. You know they have put everything in line like they're really really projecting that. This is going to work and if they don't. I feel like people are going to have this. All kinds of criticism for them, but I probably wouldn't. If all of a sudden, because look, what we want is for guys to be safe. We want sports. We want guys to get out there and compete, but we also don't want them to jeopardize their families, we don't want. Coach Putin. We don't want Jaanus. We don't want Chris. Middleton contract this and take it to their families I mean. Janas has the new baby. You that's I'm sure that weighs heavily on on his mind as on interview with Joel, embiid who was talking about, you know, he doesn't feel confident at a lot of these guys don't feel confident at all and I would like to think. That Disney. And, because Disney open do we know is Disney Banging Open Friday? They Open. This Friday s Friday Yup. Great Wonderful, you know they get one hundred fifty million visitors a year. They have a phased reopening starting in three days or two days or whatever. And then the players get there. I mean so the NBA. Players are already arriving now. They're not going on splash mountain, or they're not going on space mountain. They're not going to be touring too much of the Disney Facility Disney. Disney world campus on foot. They're supposed to stay in their bubble. They're supposed to stay at their resorts and they're not supposed to leave. But here's something that should strike you as odd if you're a fan of the Milwaukee. Bucks were any NBA team. The union representing Walt Disney World CAST members in Florida says Disney is not testing employees for the Kuroda virus before they return to work this including pollutes. This includes stage performers. Who cannot wear masks. I'm Marie that entire sentence to you once again. The union representing Walt Disney World Cast. Members in Florida at Disney is not testing employees for the corona virus before they return to work including stage performers who cannot wear masks? Are you kidding me? I know there are people that think that wearing masks is not. Necessary? I know Ted Davis. You know my big fan on twitter. Who blocked me? The Voice of the box has me blocked on twitter. He doesn't wear a mask. He's not afraid of this. That's fine, but you're talking about being around hundreds, if not thousands of people over the course of a day week month, or whatever that are coming from everywhere 'cause. I gotta believe that and I. Don't know if it's A. Is it. A full open Disney is half capacity open for Disney. Are they going to let you know a couple dozen people in for it Disney, but if they're letting in hundreds of people from all over America? People who've been stuck in their houses, people who haven't gone on their summer vacations, people have been furloughed. People have been saving for this Disney trip. And every state's going the wrong way with cases and hospitalizations and I think I saw in over twenty counties in the State of Florida yesterday. The ICU's our full. In twenty or twenty, one or twenty five counties in Florida. There are no ICU beds left. Because of this. And now Disneyworld is saying. Hey, we're not gonNA test anybody before they come back to work. Are you kidding me? You really don't want. You don't really believe there's going to be an NBA season. Do you I mean if you're a bucks fan, you have to be hearing this and being absolutely. Mind boggled. I like to say because now I realize Jaanus isn't going to be on the. It's a small world. Ride down to Disneyworld and nobody's going to be. Hopefully venturing to that side I will say because at twenty twenty. If a six foot, ten NBA player of Luca Danni. Starts waiting in line for a ride. There's GonNa be a phone snap picture. And all of a sudden luke is going to be all over. TMZ and everywhere and people are going to say what's going on with the Mavericks, or if you know Janas standing in line, holding his baby for a ride or to get some cotton candy. There's GonNa be a picture Jaanus and you're going to say what the Hell Are you doing? You're not supposed to be over here because you're putting yourself in the petri dish. This is the point of the bubble. But. I, but as we've talked about every time you hear more about this new things in play new protocols new rules. The NBA seems to be putting more plates on sticks, and they have to keep spinning those plates and now to hear. The Disney isn't testing anybody before they come in and those people don't stay in the bubble. Those people don't stay on the campus you come. Come in from your two bedroom apartment with another buddy. You're out of bar before the you know the night before or some party or you're at the beach, or whatever off? The beaches are still closed, but then all a sudden. You know you go out you party, you come back, you go hang out your dressed up as goofy. Somehow you cross over to the NBA bubble. I mean, are you? This is a precaution. I would like them to take. Right. This is one of those that you should be like. Hey, Josh, are you coming to work here as Donald? Duck, why don't you take a test real quick? Let me check your temperature and let me shove the swizzle. Stick up your house. What I don't understand is how how the NBA is okay with this that you think about how much money I the NBA is paying Disney to have the bubble. They're all of the money that they've put into taking precautions. Trying to create the safest environment that they can. They're this close to starting. They're like okay. Everything set no one move. We're going to do this and then Disney goes. Hey, by the way like right over here. We're not GONNA, we're not. We're not ask anybody so. Good luck to you guys but WE'RE NOT GONNA test, so there's GonNa be no parades. No fireworks. All the indoor shows have been suspended. There's going to be no opportunities to hug Mickey Mouse or other costumed characters and everybody over the age of two. We'll have face coverings in the parks. Guest the theme park will be limited. Be subjected temperature checks, and we'll have to wear face masks, so yep, you up to wear a face mask. Kerr. They don't have to wear a face mask. Interesting Very. All Employees and visitors over the age of two it says will be. As masks, but what about the performers, while both of their performances aren't happening so like the inside shows aren't happening. There's no fireworks. I never been to Disneyworld. You you've been. Mike kids are seventeen months and younger so I haven't got to. That lobby were word. We have a college funded. Disney fund in one is going to be more expensive than the other. Dinner How many times this year! We haven't got it all this year. That's there's been a virus Josh. I don't know if you know that. Shut everything down well. There was a month where it wasn't here so I thought maybe twice in January. gator. Dizzy cruise. Oh, I'm sorry this all. Crew their. Disney cruise. Josh like? This this is not even close because you crews yeah pretty much. Unless. We're going to hear from coach about what's happening in. Milwaukee Bucks basketball, a very special guest will join US coming up next. Good to check in with him every single day and we're going to have an interesting. We're going to run a question by you. We're going to update all show long. that has to do with the megadeal that went patrick, Mahomes, way and we'll tell you what it is coming up next to me thinking it might have to do with Jaanus. That's next I'm like wicked in perceives Abe and this is the Steve Zaven, show. JESSICA DOT COM. Here's the Bryant Heating and cooling forecast from the Fox. Read the game. It's time for help. Pay Your bills. Cash contests your chance to win. One thousand dollars in cash to enter all you have to do. Is Text the Word Love L. O. V. E.. Love two hundred, two hundred. You'll get a text confirming entry plus iheartradio Info. Standard Data and message rates apply this nationwide context. It's the Steve Zaven show. I Mike Wicket in for the Zabi back on Monday. We'll get headlines with Ryan pose it coming up in just a bit but I. I always, this is like the coolest part of working. It's not working with Josh or It's being able to actually see my nephew. Let's bring him in its box score billy. Tunnel. I Mike. Tigar shy but mostly excited. High Okay Mic. Yesterday people continue to freak out about how much money Patrick Mahomes. Was Getting paid to play football but I get why everyone is freaking out. He got enough money to buy all the candy in the world. Can you imagine being able to get candy? Like whenever you wanted? It would be amazing. Also in football news, a guy named decined Jackson used social media, which mom says evil, and now he got in trouble for it so I guess she was right. Also, even though everyone was already told that the golf thing in Wisconsin was gonna be moved to next year. They are announcing it again. Golf is weird I I don't really get it anyway back to you. Thank you buddy else. Excited I'm Kinda shy, but mostly excited. This is going to be something. I want to check in on the pellet. W I talk and text line all morning long and I was thinking about this yesterday after up the big news when people are still in shock over the number. Five hundred and three million dollars for chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes and I. There aren't many guys out there. That are worth a contract like that I really don't know and if look. I don't wish injury. Upon mahomes statistics say that over the next ten years one of those forty five million dollars a year seasons will be lost I mean he already. He did get hurt earlier. You know in his knee went sideways against Denver on a Thursday night or a Monday night game or whatever words? Yeah! That's right. I was physically at that football game. Physically I was there but My Lord when you get to Arrowhead and you start tailgating at one for a night game in your wearing packers gear when you're hero, head, and everyone just throat I digress, but I want to throw this out your way, and and give us your answers on the Pella W, I talk text line, four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, ninety, seven three. It's also put it up on my twitter at Mike Wicket and the game at ninety seven three You can follow them on twitter if you want to at the game. Mk E the. Name three athletes. You would sign to a ten year megadeal right now regardless. Of the sport. Three athletes. You have confidence in 'cause sometimes I mean we all know these guys fall off. Injuries happen. You know they just they lose the desire whatever whatever reason? You don't always see these ten year, deals get signed because of reasonably reason, be reason see, but if you could pick three athletes baseball. The NFL the NBA. That you would feel comfortable talking to megadeal, you know four hundred million dollar deal in baseball, a two hundred and fifty million dollar deal in the NBA a five hundred three million dollar deal. In the NFL texted your answers, and we'll go around the room here with the guys before we get to pose. Again on the Pella W I, talk and text line, four, one, four, seven, nine, one, ninety, seven three guys I think the obvious answer here is is my list includes Yaas. Yes, for his age and his production much like Patrick. Mahomes, you know MVP one of the best players in the in the League and he's twenty, four, twenty, four, twenty, five, get entering his pride I think every list especially for those that are listening in in Milwaukee Madison and Green Bay mostly are to include a coup Mbo. He'll turn twenty six and December of this. So the the big thing when you brought up this question Mike that I thought about was when you get to that number of Tan, and even a little less hand is big numbers so much risk. You start thinking about that risk so much more because even if you think Oh, they're worth the money now. You're thinking regardless of money. That's a lot of years of productivity. That! You think. For even if it wasn't for a Mac, steal a ton of money, your do I wanna pay this guy to play this game for ten years. That's a long time I think it has to include someone who is in a very important position. Someone who is already outstanding someone who has leadership capabilities like I don't think you can give a left guard a ten year deal no. Honestly so. My thought immediately went to baseball. Because I just felt like like. Let's say Christian Yelich was on that list. If you if you signed him to a ten year deal. then. More than likely and I guess it'll change if the NFL is also D. H. team, but it used to be. That you could go. And have them for five or six years, and then train them to a team in the AL, where he would just be d. h., and just hit for the rest of that ten year contract so. I thought maybe yellow trout. BASEBALL GUYS Were the only that I'm thinking a ten year. Deal text in your answer to the Pella W I talk and text line. We'll start reading some of these coming up throughout this show because I. Think this is interesting because I don't go with a lot of baseball I. my my mind went right to the NBA. And, of course, jaanus elegant trae young in Atlanta. I look at Luca don-shik Zion. 'cause I don't think I'm going to give a deal to anybody over the age of twenty five. Because of the that to me is is a big or like right now. I still think Lebron's. What are the best players in the NBA, but I'm not giving Lebron ten year deal. So who would you give one? To in the in the NBA Major League Baseball. I don't think I'd come up with it NFL player I would give ten year contract to right now, and before you say Lamar Jackson I'll explain why later Lamar's the wrong answer named three athletes. You decide to attend your megadeal on the talk and text line. You can also hit us up on twitter at the game M.. k. e. hit me up at Mike wicked time to get the headlines with Bryant Hosic. Knows hogging. Like we see. A lot more. Kind of weird to this is posed no sports. Brought to you by great mid West Bank for all your mortgage loan needs. Imposed is with US poses there anybody in the National Hockey League right now that ninety nine percent of our listening audience has never heard of that you would give a ten year deal to and a mega contract and feel good about it oh. Yeah, Austin. Matthews Toronto Maple leafs without a doubt. there are a number of them that I could think of I was thinking honest. In Christian Yelich. You know I mean they're both. Will play for ten years plus right so. Ten year I mean the thing you know. It was interesting to reading about Patrick mahomes contract. You know actually the chiefs could pay each American one million dollars. This year with Patrick mahomes contract of over four crazy the amount of money. He's getting, but they could pay. They pay every American dollars dollar. Deal get. Her what? Actually would be more than one dollar, wouldn't it? To fifty is what it would be. It'd be a buckle with that yeah yeah. NFL Players Association President JC shredder wrote in a blog post yesterday that the NFL's unwillingness to follow recommendations of its own experts will put the season the safety of its players at risk the Cleveland Browns, center, and former packer added quote every decision this year that prioritizes normalcy over innovation custom over science, and even football over health significantly reduces chances of completing the full season end quote last week, the NFL reduced its preseason from four games to two and created a twenty three. Three Day training camp the Players Association wants a forty day training camp in no preseason game saying there's no reason to risk their health for games that mean nothing in the standings. We've been saying that for years. Training camps are scheduled open three weeks from yesterday. Meanwhile multiple reports say the NFL proposed thirty five percent of the players. Salaries be held in escrow to help manage cost during the season. It's one option. The League is discussed with the Union over concerns about falling. Falling revenues because stadiums will not be at full capacity which could affect the salary cap in two thousand and twenty one and beyond Wi director of Communications Todd Clark told the Wisconsin State Journal the W. i. a is not considering moving false sports to the spring season or flipping sports seasons due to the pandemic. Clark says the organization has entertained a number of scenarios and considerations, but not spend any serious downtime and discussion about flipping seasons, although it's topic, that's a topic that. That can always be discussed. He added that anything will need board of Control Review and approval. False sports practices are scheduled to begin early next month. The Milwaukee Bucks shut down their facility. After a positive corona virus test of an unidentified team member was revealed on Friday but coach. Mike buttonholes remains optimistic about the NBA's re start to the season. The Bucks leave for Orlando Tomorrow. We're just trying to be positive. I think, try and keep our minds in a positive place. Embrace this challenge. Embrace this opportunity and. Hopeful Dick, we will We'll have playoff, basketball and we're just we're trying to help for the vast and take about the vast, but commissioner Adam silver admits he's concerned about the integrity of the league's bubble. He told fortune brainstorm health potential positive cases after quarantine could reveal a hole in their plan, which would be problematic and could force the NBA to shut down again. Also Brooklyn Nets Taurean Princeton Spencer Dinwiddie both tested positive, and will not take part in the NBA restart. Washington Wizards starred Bradley. Beal is pulled out because of a right shoulder injury, Houston, signed free agent forward and former Buck Luke Ma Bob. Bob Mugabe who hasn't played in the NBA. Since April, of two thousand, nineteen in the Denver Nuggets promoted Calvin booth to general manager with the MLB season set to begin two weeks from tomorrow. The brewers will hold their first scrimmage of summer camp today at Miller Park they'll do the same again tomorrow. Manager Craig. Counsel explains what the scrimmages will look like. We'll play it true, but will also kinda mix it up and start innings with baserunners on and things like that, so we can get. Everybody can get some appropriate work again and the first five five games we play will be more controlled and then we'll. Try to play some more competitive games kind of at the end with. Straight game and no modifications in the brewers are scheduled to start the season July. Twenty four, th against the cubs at Wrigley Field of the cubs suspended workouts after weekend tests were delayed so to the San Francisco giants in Boston Pitcher Red Warno. Rodriguez tested positive and may not be able to pitch on opening day as projected and we've been talking about it for weeks and today. Today, it will be made official. The Twenty Twenty Ryder Cup scheduled for September twenty fifth through the twenty seventh at whistling, Straits will be postponed one year because of the pandemic, the PGA of American, the European tour reportedly will make a formal announcement today. So there you go. Hey, post, thank you appreciate it. Brian posing in, have yourself a great day Brian and enjoy those hockey playoffs. Coming up what's trending also? Where do you stand? We'll do that after the seven o'clock top of the hour. We'll find out what is having a really good run and I'm a big fan of consuming thanks to covid Nineteen Pandemic Infrastructure David on Mike wicked, and this is the Stephen Show. On How It is time to get into that new ride for the summer, but you might say overwhelmed with choices and different makes and models and brands. 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Kamio the group they did word up. Josh doesn't even know who knows. Mike Okay goes on word up at Korn covered. Now he has no, no Oh goodness, okay. Is this video service where celebrities? Twenty five bucks. Shannon Sullivan of the Green Bay packers. Wish somebody bought a cameo of. She ended Sullivan Showtime. Event for Max. for my birthday, somebody bought me one of those, and he's mentioning like they must have had all the info for me, but the yes, I am aware of cameo looking. Thing where my Well the proper Mike my the way you very much. Cameo, the service, not the band or Whatever you can you have cameo? Point. Has Been in the news lately for a few reasons let's start? With Carol Baskin, who is now on cameo. For. What for the low price of one hundred and ninety nine dollars, you can have Carol Baskin. Send you a message, a video message which I think led to? This sounds like the should business for a golf course in England. So here you go. Equal cats and Kittens, lumers and swingers is the best ball whacking field in Manchester. You don't have to be tiger woods to enjoy yourself. Cool cats of all ages can whack balls. Bring your cubs down to. If anyone asks you who sent them? Tell Them Carol Lynn here's some cameo for you. Thank you? And our talking now, what if you played a cameo over cameo? Inception stuff right there. Zach Weird. Have you heard this song before Joe? We're not, stopping until you have. No. Right now. Shaking his hand. which I feel like I've heard a lot of songs, so that's the, but no, no. Nothing's depressing. But if you thought that was the big news from Cameo. I did think that would carol. Baskin talked about whacking balls in Europe. That was the big news wasn't. Apparently was never played in the bank lobby when he was. Listening station so. That was not on the list of approved songs. A Floyd Mayweather has joined cameo all. Let me he there is no way he is charging one hundred ninety nine bucks. How much you think he's charging. Mike Thousand Dollars easily a thousand bucks. I'm going to say ten grand. Nine hundred and ninety nine dollars to Mike. Hey second technically overbid by. Now yesterday I was pretty good with the brewers Vegas. Now How I think this went. He, said well. What's the most that I can charge? Cameo said I. I don't know we've never really had to think about that before. I guess. I don't know like a thousand dollars is probably the Max. So that's why he put at nine, but his. He promoted on his instagram that he is now on cameo as the most expensive. Why wouldn't they bailable? Is that something? You WanNa be known ounce. Lloyd Mayweather, yes. I, guess I just happened I went to the Cameo website. And I'm looking at some other names like Alice Cooper. How much you think Alice Cooper goes. If Floyd's about one thousand see, but you're naked. Understand anything else. Cooper says I know. Box, three hundred bucks yeah breadth. You know. What do you think about the breadth? The the excellence of Execution Bret the Hitman Hart hundred and fifty bucks. It is one hundred fifty bucks. Ago. Let's see here a sneak. RIC flair on camera. Really! I think so ooh Brett Farve. Five hundred. I don't think it says oh here is three hundred. Three hundred bucks for Brett Farve to send you a cameo or a picture of his crocs. You, said crocs right. I did sacred made you all. He's got to be five hundred, one thirty three I. Don't know why. Because big baller brand is in three. One three three. A couple more here. Orel. Hershiser oh Jeez fifty bucks they might. Walks? Josh isn't even know who he is no. REX burkhead of the New England patriots. He's mean. Fifty Bucks maybe. One, hundred and thirty four dollars. One hundred thirty four bucks John Kuhn could get at least fifth on. Don't laugh. Okay! coons out here. Be No. No I doubt he's well He. He wasn't until today he should be in. There are packer fans listen John. If you're listening bud, he's actually no, he's probably up working out. You know for a fact. There are packers fans out there. That would pay fifty bucks to have John Koon. Wish their data happy birthday. That's true. People Pay Ninety nine bucks for Markelle mcgraff. Yeah from sugar, ran. Up with somebody via cameo. Yes, which might be the only? Good use of of their dollars. Did, you I WANNA fly I don't know. I don't know how the hell do this man I don't know how to break up with her I got it. Don't worry I got you hear the answer. We're going to call. WE'RE GONNA call mark. McGrath right. Kettner. Blaze. Can't he's on the office. Oh yeah, whammy from Anchorman Yeah. Packer from the office. Yeah, hundred and twenty nine bucks Geez. Oscar from the office is one hundred seventy five bucks. Wow! I could go on. Go on and on here. We pick a show. I can tell you how much it would cost. Oh, here we go! Get her. You want the Soup Nazi to wish you A. Their Cost you eighty dollars. Josh get on that this year for me. Yeah, all right half my. Elegant couple months to save up. To? Saturday's to pull that off John O.`Hurley O! That'd be better hundred thirty dollars. He's the most expensive of the seinfeld actors. Andy in Greenfield said for my wedding last year. Friends got me a cameo of from PAT content back in May of last year, it was only like fifteen dollars fifteen bucks. That's. being corona viruses, causing a lot of different departments to have to make cuts. Including in New York City where the city is giving up its Pricey Staten Island. Deer Vasectomy Program knows for the rest of the year is now gone due to the parks department budget cuts. It's a six and a half million dollar program now in its fifth year designed to trim the boroughs, Randy Randy randy deer population by sterilizing box, but it will now be put on ice. On ice until June of next year, the end of the fiscal year this according to the Staten Island advance. Newspaper City officials say they simply can't afford it right now. Parks Department spokeswoman Cherise Hilt the outlet during these unprecedented times. We have been happy with making difficult decision. especially as it pertains to our budgets, so guys. They're not sterilizing dear, so the the deer could have a couple of drinks here. These LA- hot summer nights. You know they're gonNA. Netflix's chill and there aren't going to be any deer getting snip. How'd you like to have that on your resume? What did you do before applied for this job Sir I snipped dear balls, so I keep the population that could keep the population down in Staten Island. I. Want that on a business card. For sure dear Balsam I. Even if I had to add like former. 'cause I got a new job. At a bank, right? Well we're going to. Be still say do. That, it's it's. It's a skill. It's a life skill. You never really quit your your. Your. Word and Microsoft Excel, Adobe and. Cutting dear balls. Right. Here's training, guys and Australian man was fighting for his life when a deadly snake. was found in his car while he was driving. Would I would jump out of the window in the moving car. Burn my car and never leave my house again. Have you ever been driving? And like you have the window down and like a a bee flies in the window? I have it, but I would be absolutely terrified. You Freak out. Got, here I was driving home once from the up, and I found a tic on my ankle and I was, he said a tick. and. I almost drove off the road. Did you get? Like was. That was that was a tick? Yes, okay, this guy. twenty-seven-year-old, driving sixty two, he notices on the ground in front of him by the pedals is a snake Oh. God nope, nope. He says the more that he moved his legs. The more the snake wrapped around his low. Og No no, and then he says that its head just started striking at the driver. See Chair, but tweed my legs. God No. I've eight. At that point, you just drive the car off a cleft. Out Well see you later? Hopefully the AIRBAG will take the snake out now take me out. Most whole, this is the only thing that would have made it more. Yeah, the only thing that made the story more Australian is if he would've killed the snake with like a can of foster's. There are reasons why I never want to go to Florida alligators there everywhere. I don't WanNa, go anywhere near alligators influence. Yeah, there are reasons I don't want to go to Australia as I imagine. The outback is beautiful country. This story is why I never ever want to go to Australia, so he didn't get bit. You didn't get bit by the snake because he used the seat belt and a nearby knife. Yep, to fight it off, yeah! The Car Whitey wide well yeah. But. Why do you have a way carrying a knife with May, there could be a snake down here. The only thing well I imagined in Australia a Lotta. Guys carry knives. When with his buddies for your you know living in Australia three or four buddies or like? Yeah, that happened to me too I've had a deadly snake in my car mate. There's my Australian, so it wouldn't surprise me at all. If this has happened to at least a couple of his buddies, the only thing scarier and more Hollywood. would be if the snake used the end of its tail to press down on the gas pedal, and here we go, but it's you and me. We're doing this and we're going to burn a fiery debt. Yes! No thank you. Are you guys using? Zuma lot here during the nineteen pandemic of the zoom calls with friends say with the cocktails with friends on a Friday night. During, KB or Well if you head over to invite Rick Dot com, you can create an invite for whatever zoom meeting you want, and they're gonNA be added to a Q., and then the site's going to inform you of your place in the waiting less than just how long before you get brought into the zoom call and when you get brought into the zoom, call, this will play. Yes! Who is this camera? you can yes roll your friends as zoom call, you only get it for fifteen seconds because I think anything longer than that actually violates zooms terms of service, and we'll see how long it's even allowed. If you WanNa Rick, when did Rick Rolling become a thing because it's everywhere, it's everywhere for seemingly a decade. Yeah. I was guests ten years I mean it used to be you would. You would change a web address link and then send to friends being like Oh. You got to check out this video of this guy doing this cool trick, and then it would be. They got rick rolled. Yeah, did you see rick? Ashley Doing that Song With The foo fighters on stage yeah. Two or three years ago I just saw like a month ago. Where this would have been something I would have liked to have seen over the last few NAPA. Know how. It feels like so many books. These days are getting the Hollywood treatment and I am one of those people who has to read the book before I watched the movie. This is Danish words host of the Brand New podcast popcorn book club. I talked of my smartest funniest friends into starting a book club with me where we read super buzzy books and talk about them every week. IHEART radio is number one for PODCASTS, and it's easy to see why listen to popcorn club on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get. Time now play. Where do you stand from where we stand? You know where I stand. I WanNa know where you stand. Where did you stay Mike wicked in four Steve Zaven? On the show sports media etiquette food, women and I liked the category of other for you. Take a hot stand. We'll go around the room Josh. Gator, an I and we'll give you take on something. You can always jump in with your. Answers to where you stand, and also to react to ours on the pillow, talk and line four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, ninety, seven three. Josh, go first 'cause I gotta get A. I gotTa hear how this goes and and I also I'm not done. So why don't you? Answer. All Right? I will start sports. Jump in whenever you're with your take or do I. Save Myself For the end. Bingo ever yeah. Strong feeling, jump right in. Okay, because I have a feeling, no matter what gators take is going to be wrong, so just want an okay. Yes, well, it's different girls. Sports. Where do you stand on NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson. he's milk very boring. WHATEVER BORING MILK TOAST! And wins a lot of listeners. That's water raises. Heart timer now, right? That's the thing, but he. He just missed the last race because he tested positive for Covid nineteen right so here's the thing i. don't like him, and I have no reason. Not to like it like yes, he. He's annoying to me. I don't even watch NASCAR. I don't get why I feel that way. into the. Category resume yes. Great Great Guy can't stand him. Okay I just I have no idea why, but Jimmy Johnson I. Just Not. Media. Where do you stand on TV, show DVD SLASH BLU ray. Well I mean if this was two thousand seven I would be all about it, but here in twenty, twenty. I wouldn't spend a nickel OUGHTA DVD on a box set on a blu ray, not whatsoever. I can't remember the last time I even powered on my dvd player or Blu Ray player and put a DVD Anna. So so there you guys are both fans of the office. The office was not available on streaming anymore. It was gone. You could not choose to watch on streaming. Would've I would've I found IT IN IN A. Less than legal way I don't I don't condone that, so so for the record, though instead of instead of buying a box set or whatever it may be, you would. You would just try to find illegally. Some episodes something in stream it. Yeah or just when I guess. I'm with gator I probably would if all of a sudden. Streaming was gone of the office legal illegal. Not that I condone that or do that, but if if streaming was gone. I'd probably say goodbye to the office. I'd find something else to watch for sure. Rock yeah there you go, isn't it? Isn't it? I agree with you guys. It's crazy how we're in love with so many shows. If. The convenience of them if they hurry, I don't care about that show. What if Seinfeld wasn't on fourteen channels? and was off of straight. Streaming Service, but it was office streaming service. Would you say goodbye to the Soup Nazi? Or would you go buy a VHS set that? Josh bound for you at a yard sale. Well then I had to buy A. VCR which who can even by those? Josh. Do you ever owned a VCR Josh? Yes? Yes VCR and VCR divided Combo for the fancy folks who about Beta you know? Me made it was before me really. Yeah, yeah, we! We had VHS in the in the early eighties growing up I. Don't know why, but I always thought it was so cool. If you've had a smaller TV. That had the built in VCR Oh. Yeah Fair. Guys remember laser disc than I remember going to blockbuster or going to Sam goody or whatever record store and they sold laser discs. But I never had a LASERDISC player. How was black and white TV by the way better? Black and white TV, Mitch? No that's all he had grown up. Did. At least said insane like just the radio okay. Where do you stand on powdered doughnuts? More. More work in grief than they're worth. Like full size of the MINNEA- full-size. He didn't say minis get her. I'm out. I'll do the minis, not the full size if I have three other choices like I never go into the data. Go to Dunkin to get myself a powder doughnut correct. One hundred percent there's there's no good like if you choose a powder, don't you're saying I'm about to change the shirt I'm wearing that? Shirt. Story I gotTA. Go Get her. I mean if you're Don Johnson Miami. Vice in a white suit I mean you can get you rock powder doughnut. Then that's all you. Powder. And the powder might be something powdered sugar coming out. A okay. Etiquette? Where do you stand on sharing a bedroom closet with your significant other? As a married man I, don't have a choice. I often don't get the option. In places I've lived with her because the closet is small and I have to make do with a an armoire from Ikea that I. Put together or dresser drawer that dresser I probably also got from Ikea and put together I mean. Did. You know what it's not the hill I'm GonNa die on when it comes to arguing with my wife? Dinner, good way, and look at IT I. Do it now in the old house, though my closet was in the basement and Patty closet in the master bedroom, so we moved into my current house, we were downstairs with the babies we moved up to the map, gave the twins. The master bedroom were planning on it, but in the smaller room downstairs we were centrally located I had an armoire like in another room in the mud room. where I would get dressed every morning now yeah I. Have I get her. Just like you said that's exactly how I am now. All of my clothes are in the basement, and it's fine because I try to I have to move through the house like a Ninja in the morning to not wake everyone. That's virtually impossible. What why why is that virtually? Sat. I didn't say that I just don't call you. Thank you, Mike. Serious leader. Do you wear wrestling shoes? You seidel wrestling shoe because they're super quieter. Shoes that Black Panther war remember the new shoes. Siri gave to Black Panther they absorb all sound. You should get your self a pair of those. Hey, the point is i. don't Need Them I. Just get ready for work in the basement. A. Yes. You're jerk women. Where do you stand on Elisabeth Moss? Who? Got To look at her again. Elisabeth Moss actress. She was in madman. HANDMAID's tale yes. She. She's on the West Wing as well remember from. Are you asking what do I think overlooks or do I think of I'm asking? Dan. As the character, she plays in handmaid's tale. She is an incredible actor. He was great in madman for the two and a Half Seasons I. I sat through madman. I, don't find that attractive, and that's what you're asking, but she's a beautiful Hollywood. Celebrity but I don't think she is hot. She's better looking. It's not a good looking at Halsey but you. Would think she's. She's a tremendous actor. She Looks Very Hollywood. She's Hollywood. That's going to their set shoot who she was married to. Nobody would Fred Arnesen. Was Yeah Okay. Boss on Elisabeth Moss. Whatever she's okay, I don't know what it is like a lot of things that she's in I. Don't care about I. Don't want to watch them. University and had made SAM. No, but I feel if I watched it I would keep watching it because of her. She's really good. She's great, and and that show is such a heavy. Heavy watch like it. It's tough to get through. The first season man. Oh my Gosh! Oh, well, then I definitely won't watch if she was the She was the annoying daughter on the West Wing. I don't President Bartlett's daughter. Didn't watch west, really what? Now here we go. Not so the west wing never like Aaron. Sorkin wrote that right h show yeah I I like Sorkin. I think he's brilliant. Allow loved. The social network. News I. Watched the first season. That opening scene where Jeff Daniels is sending on the stage, talking about how America isn't the greatest nation of all time or the greatest nation in the world. I just didn't get back into it. For Season Two. I see that. And finally other. Where do you stand on Gutter? Guards. I would buy them if I. Didn't have a HOA and they take care of my gutters. For My condo. But if I had if I owned a home, owned a house and I had gutters and kept getting. Getting leaves such them. I would absolutely got her guard. gator. My parents had them at their old house and the gutter still got clogged so. I don't know how well how effective they are okay. Because it rained a lot and I apparently didn't clean my gutter out well enough that where he had water in the house last night. Whoops yeah got to clean the gutters man. Yeah. That's what my wife told me to so. You'RE WELCOME Lisa. I'm here in it at work and at home. Where do you stand on those texts into the Palo W? I talk and text line, four, one, four, seven, nine, one, nine, seven, three, four, one, four, seven, nine, one, nine, hundred, seventy, three. Coming up, we'll get my list. We'll get gators list of where we stand. Give this a try, boys. We'll see how well we do. We'll do it. Coming up next to for Steve's might wicked at this is Steve's Zaydan show. 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Good way to say it as I don't like him. Because he's on the seventy sixers and as a person at just don't like him as a person. You nothing to me personally, but the way that he carries himself in his social media and the things he says. Now if he played for the box would not by. Only honest Jersey by the way. Yes, do yep. Gotcha I'd like to see him and Ben Simmons on the court as much as possible 'cause when they're on the court together, they stink. Okay. media. Where do you stay on going to the movies in the future? I'll go as soon as they're open. Okay. I didn't go as often as I would have liked before so just. Trying to find three hours a to where I can go and watch a movie somewhere. So it's hard for me to say that. I will jump right in when they open up because realistically probably go back to being like I. Don't have time to go see a movie gotTa get Buddy Sitter, and all that stuff right, but the fact that they're closed right now isn't the reason why I don't see myself going back. Etiquette, where do you stand on immediately texting back? Someone who sends you a text? I think that's fine. If you get the text and you are on, might have to. No, No horse getter. If. It's my wife. I usually text back. Everyone else I'm like. If I, if I see it right away and I can text. I will otherwise. I'll get to it when I can. Where do you stand on women with large tattoos? I'm talking arms. I'm talking on the neck. I'm not talking about the tramp stamp on the back up until he said. Tattoos I was like Oh here. We go. Large Tattoos. I visit very visible tattoos on women. See to me. The size isn't as big a deal as the visibility so like if you have A. Huge Back Tattoo, but I'm not seeing it down. The are shirt that's different down. The arms say midway between your elbow wrist. Sure if that's I, mean it's not gonNA. Do Anything for me, but I'm not against it. Go for it. Your body would want. I. Think Gotten aware that you stand. You don't like them. I guess yeah, taking a stand here, this is where is Yossi. Washes this isn't I'm on the fence segment you told me to have takes on this show. All right don't like. There's A. is that better? What heartache so convincing getter I am! Abhorred by? Tattoos that are that big on anybody for, but especially women. It's like come on. Don't a lot of women I love it when I see a woman with a a whole arm tattoo I think it's great. Especially that arm is is toned, and there's something going down the whole thing now. What about right in the middle of the Front Court? My eyes are up here looking at my tattoo. Exactly, fine with me, I think tattoos on women are sexy as hell. Choose on the Front Court and it's of snoopy. snooky there for a minute. You are jobs. I JUST WANNA know why I have to do with every day if I hire you. That Mike, and other. Where do you stand on Ted? Davis blocking me on. Twitter wasn't intentional. Yes. Yes. It was maybe not now, but at the time. Yes, it only takes a second to block someone so if if you see if. It would just happen randomly. There had to be some tweet that you put out there at some point where he went on like this Guy Block. Wouldn't it I? Don't know anyone who goes out of their way to search for someone on twitter to block. My guess is and I have been known to be a little bit left of center politically and I know Ted, is probably right of center politically and he may have got tired of seeing my over and over. Political beliefs which have pulled the reins back on for the record on twitter. I'm guessing it was intentional. Dinner! Yeah, I think it's probably intention. We. Get our learning. Stay on your list sports. Where do you stand on the mega contract in sports? I think it's a mistake in every league. To give a mega contract like that especially right now, not knowing the near or long term future of a lot of sports. I think if you're going to do it. It's gotTa be somebody under the age of Twenty Six. I hate seeing like Miguel Cabrera playing into his forties making thirty million dollars a year. I think. Teams are so desperate to cut their nose. Spite their face that they think that's the right answer to do long term. It's a bad idea i. think it's absolutely fine as long as you can go into hearing that news understanding that they are not going to play. You are not paying for the entire term of that contract. You are giving them those additional years because you are banking on their performance in the next three or four years. Yeah I think with Mike say it's gotTa. Be under twenty five and I see it. It's more logical and baseball because you're less chance to get injured in baseball than you are in basketball or What especially I think a ten year contract in the NFL isn't. It's I. Mean I. Know How good mahomes. My God. Yeah, don't don't Baltimore better. Not come back and be like we're GONNA. Give half a billion to Lamar Jackson. 'cause you know what happens when you get older, you'll learn this. Josh, get older. You get slower and Lamar. Jackson game is entire aided on his speed and Lamar. Jackson's going to slow down and just like Mike Vick. It doesn't take a bunch of guys to hit him hard. It takes one one misplaced men of his knee, one bad step, and all of a sudden his speed is nullified, and then he's broken Cam Newton, who can't get a job anywhere because he's not the player he once was, and he's getting paid exactly. Media. Where do you stand on Mike Golic? he's ESPN. Radio is making a massive change your line up. They already did it a couple of years ago. When when? Would the other. Mike went to TV and now it was. was a trey. Wingo and Golic was at the show Yep, and now they're they're just. Golic's done correct and so's Trayvon. and Greenberg's coming back. Yeah, yeah I think they utilize anyway I. Think Golic a Sports Radio Longevity Hall of Famer. I think he was good for that. Look you. Don't stay on the show for fifteen twenty years in this market in this industry. And not be looked at as a hall of Famer Twenty Years At one show. That's pretty amazing. Yeah he was. He was one of the guys that I could stand so and I think. Endorsement. I'm saying you know if you listen if you happen to tune into. Show. Early. Greenberg and goal acute liked him more than Greenberg. Is that what you're saying? Yes, yeah, that's I think that's probably true to saint. Because he was very, he didn't. He never really had any stance just like? I like I. Hope One day when I quit this industry and you play this game, you say. Where do you stay on? Mike, Wicket and I'm Josh's answer is one of the guys I could stay on yeah. Sorry! That's not going to be the answer. Is Not a twenty year career. Anyway blocking you ride food. Where do you stand on New Tele? Food one by the way. It's. I. It's chocolate right, yeah! Out. Auckland! Also, not a fan of new Tele, which then people would eat it with a spoon if People knew Tele. Chocolate my kids have it all the time we knew tele and like the bread, little breadsticks, little crackers or but do you like you tell not really okay see? Wow I was putting it on a waffle over the weekend for late night and I've just looking the knife when I was done like. This is not really good. Etiquette. Where do you stand when you're driving passing multiple cars at one time? If they're going to slow. Get Away. If. They're going fifty five sixty five. GET OUTTA my way I'd rather. That doesn't happen in I'd rather pass them on the left. As opposed to having to pass them on the right, because somebody will get out of the lane true everything he said I agree with I'm saying on a two lane road and you gotTA. You gotta all on a two lane. Yeah. Oh Yeah, oh no! You gotTa Rip past like six of them. No, don't do it especially. If I have three babies in the car with me. No absolutely not. Yeah, go for it. I do it all the time driving up north excellent. You've got more than a two hour drive. Yeah, get the hell out of the way now I'm skipping all you guys. Women were to send sideline reporters. Just General Women said well. It's women okay. And now Mike with it. Thinking or I? I don't find the need for a lot of sideline reporters, period, bag, Male, or female. They don't add a ton the interview with Gregg. Popovich, where he gives a one word answer or trying to run and keep up with Mike McCarthy who suffered in pop and trying to get to the the locker room or fat Bret Bielema trying to get to the locker room like I don't. Don't care about that interview all that much because they don't tell you anything, I think they're kinda pointless. I think they're kind of fill, but I would rather look at a pretty lay doing that. Then look at gator. Doing that interview will dunk point I don't mind the sideline reporter I like them I especially in baseball, because it's a long game, and it breaks it up and it's something. To see in between pitches. All right good getting getting me back back in the zone. I'm a fan I think. Sideline reporters in baseball are the most useless like they look awkward. Lip Hit. Or they have like awkwardly on top of the DUGOUT. In between innings, I think baseball sideline reporters are the most awkward. Agreed Newness of or like they have Sophia minner in the walkway you at. Chart under the press box. Yeah, yeah, it's just it. It seems strange to me, but hey they serve a role. They have a job for a reason. They must come in handy. Where do you stand on washing your own car? My final one just did it two weeks ago. I don't think I'll ever do it again. So hot like the thing dry before it could get the soap off so I don't think I will never do it again. Yeah, you think Oh. This is a good idea until you do it, and then you go, nope. I'm just go let your halfway you can't not you know My food went by the way. Where do you stand on breaking your Spaghetti before you put it in the pot boiling water? No. You have to. That's half the fun of Spaghetti. To break. You Make Spaghetti for the kids. Guy No I. Do not I should. I should remember. You have to break this. Eat Spaghetti. What does he a pasta elitist yeah yeah. I guess. How old is your kid three and a half? That is perfect spaghetti age he's he's Picky, picky eater man. Break, that habit that's that's worse than a thumb sucker. Hey We question all the time. We're like a reassure the Zarqa. He it took us a long time to try bake because baking. I'm not even going to say. No No, no Julie, says I know Joe. Is? He looks like the pool boy. So. We have a pool. That's cute. Josh. This can't be my kid. The very driver for some reason very good. That's more likely. We today show sucks. Not Mine. 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The college job. Now with the Zayd here's your professor K.. Mike Wicked Steve. Saban's aves back next week. Thanks so much for joining us if he listened to us in Milwaukee on ninety seven three the game you can hear our next guest from three to six one half of drew in and also the latest member of ninety seven, three the game to a block me on twitter. Is here. What's going on? Sir, how are you today? Asked. Guest. Yes, your guest. I didn't block you. What might? Not. Take a you're not locked I. don't even follow you. You're not locked. All I did was post. All it did was posted. Dario staying. Let me. Instigate, you're not blocks will provide. Take. The I will definitely do that. It's instigating. I'm just stirring the pot. Voice you take a look at facebook messenger of the show I, just posted a screen shot taken from your on Air K B. Right? That's you that is true. Yeah, yeah, that's really weird. I'm blocked from follow now. You Know? No, no way I. Take that back. I posted that I blocked it and then I. Read My. Because my post said I. Don't something to the effect of I. Don't bottle wicked, but I'm going to follow him in Black Kim. Joined in on earth. Blind the guys you work with so I just in blocked by everybody at the gay next, I gotTa work I, drew in and out. No, no, you don't work. Dude because we've got a Hashtag unsettled, wicked movement. We've been working together for a while. Can Can you follow me? I think I unio idea that's. Buttons Great People Don't realize you've. Molly Josh. No says you don't. Love your awkward okay. Here's the deal Katie KFI's me. Of course if I am. If we have filed were following from Drouin KB account. I probably don't follow from Mayo. 'cause I have both of those that I look at. It's like way too much for me to deal with, but you know what Josh Right now just make you have a handling. Your self esteem up is up three hundred and twenty four. Holiday okay. I. Don't follow you now I. Do Big Day to day a day to day. There you go, and now you are blocked all right. Full Circle K B as a professor and someone who I believe probably appreciates the English language. Your thoughts on Merriam Webster. Where do you stand on Merriam Webster recognizing irregardless as a word. Number One? It's not a word, but number two doesn't surprise me because they have relaxed their standards to the point of where you've got words like chill lacks. cronk. let's see this is one girl G. R.. L. Throw that in the third grade spelling test. Let's see what else do. They have a man Kini. Ole Mg not even a word ll. Ll allow Lal Cell in it doesn't it doesn't surprise me at all. You know it's it's. Whatever irregardless is not worded regardless of. irregardless is just people saying something wrong. There's there's so many of those. What's the other one? The ended for all intents, intents and purposes I T. E. S. eight now. In It's a for all intent intense intention. People do that wrong all the time to the so many of. These. They've added a game to the dictionary. Again. You're. Bringing your game. SEE IT'S A. It's a it's. A colloquialism doesn't deserve to be in the dictionary, but it's like whatever I haven't used a dictionary ages. So? I'm pro. Okay. Sorry Josh my new my new follow and Blonde. I didn't block Yo. Will you can? On Miriam Webster Dot, com frequently asked questions about irregardless is irregardless word. Yes, it may not be a word that you like or were that you would use a term paper, but it has been used for well over two hundred years. That is why we and every other dictionary of modern English to find this word next question does irregardless mean the same thing as regardless. Yes, we define irregardless as regardless. It says. I just typed regardless on my laptop, and it didn't give you the correction it just. Kept it as no underlying definition. No, but know how a lot of times if you type something incorrectly on your mail. It fell check yet. It didn't mean regardless. No, it didn't smell. Check it. Came Laptop. He would have thrown out the window. Here's self-destruct actually. This is what when it comes to language and writer so k. and everything like that I'm an advertising writer. Okay I write ads. I do creative work and people think that you're a writer. I would have people come to me and go. Hey, can you prove this year writer M at writer advertising writer I started sentences with the word and yet okay up dump. Come look into me for any type of mentorship is I. Don't add it. But it doesn't. It doesn't surprise me. You know there's a lot of them that you know. People Mispronounced 'cause you know. Most people are idiots, but we gotta live with them so. Do not come out seriously. Have you watched the news? I I try I try not to as a matter of fact to get my new. While you don't get it for me because I have not watched a bit of national news and this is not an exaggeration. Literally not an exaggeration I have not turned on a national newscast in more than a year. Does it bother you by the way that people like yourself? Throw the word literally, and even though they you could just said have been watched in more than a year. I would still believe you even if you didn't include the word literally in using it for amusing it for emphasis. That's why you're creative writer. Wow, yeah I, but yeah people people shops about that. But, but I didn't use it like the way people like students use it. Literally literally literally literally, they just throwing off like literally. Yeah, yeah, there's another good one. But now I swear to God. This is the God's honest truth. I had no idea no idea. Donald trump watching the demilitarized zone in Korea for about a week after it happened. Yeah, no I just don't watch. Said how long did it take you to find the gentleman with the eighty pound groin? Two minutes yet it. Came up on my or you suggest. History. This is what you'd like to watch. Who I need to make America great again. We got guys who can find eight balls in two minutes and don't care about a possible peace union between warring countries for the last five decades. Ago. What's more entertaining? I can't serve eighty pounds. Yeah, okay. There you go. Every time you can't get angry at an eighty pound sack you can. Put that on a t shirt. Oh. Hey. That sounds good drink AP poll question. What are you more angry at the news or an eighty pound sack? Get Mad and maybe pound sack. Everyone know that you don't even want to go into the rabbit holes that I'm into you. Because if gives it just gets so twisted. I have always been fascinated. By the the outside fringes of society in a whole, the psycho serial killers and stuff like that, because the I'm just fascinated by the way that you know the twisted human mind works. And it's like well. How do you get there? You know so. It's more of a curiosity that you know. Fat. People in enablers psych your seven hundred pounds. Tell your mom to stop bringing it three pizzas. That's all we do. Is We just yell at the screen? That's the way entertain myself. Would you entertain yourself paying two hundred and eighty thousand dollars for screeches house in Port Washington reaches a Dick. Trouble, Now he has been accused. He's a total jag. Back in the days of doing stand up comedy. He decided to come out after that he was like. I was at the Comedy Cafe One night. They booked him. He was just all about being discreet danger screech. You know this is not. You know this is not like yours Zach. Lisa, turtle is not like Martin Paul Guzzler walked into Dukes on water. Your screech out, right? You'RE SCREECH, K.! You're never gonNA get you know you're not even Mr Belet. Don't make fun of Haskins while you're not. You GotTa Talk to Best Gershon about the night he hung out with. Now, and then then all of a sudden, he started calling him all the time. Stuff wanted to hang out matt. He's like no is. Mr Building now I hang out with here. But. What are you GONNA do? We do where do you stand on? Wednesdays ask the Spaghetti one. Where do you stand on breaking your Spaghetti before you put it in the pot of boiling water? I don't I. Think it depends on how big the Totti's right! If. You're making it I. Don't like it all. Hang out like one of those stupid sense. Extend Your Life By. Bed, bath and beyond that sticks in the bathroom and you go I'm a junior. Now, if it's a small pot snap in half. Pot? Yeah if it's a big guy, just throw it all in. No I get hers. Right you snapping in half that way when you get done, you don't when you're eating spaghetti and you're wrapping it on your phone. You don't have a golf ball on the North Bay. On the the end of the Fort. I'm talking about the end. Gay Man I'm not talking about the pre-game talk in the endgame. When it's on my plate and I gotTa spin the fork. I don't have their softball on the forecast. Somehow jam into my Gullet Joey Chestnut on the fourth of July. Now, no, that's wrong. That's wrong. Kaby good to talk to you man. Yeah Guess. Katie Drouin Cape Cod. Three the game. Today every weekday down in Milwaukee. You know what that is. Josh when you have a big softball of Spaghetti very slobbery. Gross it's in the dictionary or slobbery. It's nasty. Break while you break your pasta. You put it in there, and then when you're done, it fits on the fourth nicely, and you can eat your spaghetti. Maybe you can even add meatball to the end, and it doesn't all just like you got a giant water tobacco in your mouth and you know. You're. Clean Haywood, from major league with this giant thing or your John, crock with mouthful of whatever. Order Pizza and then maybe you should just be civilized. Josh Gibson may okay. One hour left on the hard all right coming up in honor of Patrick Mahomes, ten year deal text in right now. Who would you give a tenure megadeal to in any sport any sport right now? Who would it be text into the Pella? I talk and text line. Four one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, hundred, seven three baseball, the NBA the NFL. Who would you give a ten year contract to right now or two three, four five hundred million dollars will start reading years coming up on the other side with Josh and get her on Mike wicked and prestige Zaven, and this is Steve Sabin show. In kind of? Thank God. What's going on? Thanks for listening to us. In Milwaukee on ninety seven breed, the game and Madison on ten seventy game and in Green, Bay on fourteen eight at one point one nine W. NFL I. Mike Wicket in four Steve Zaven here on the Steve Zaven shows back on Monday Josh's here. GATOR is here coming up on the walking dot. dotcoms Matt Miller will join US and. One very popular show just got extend for its third and final season on Netflix. We'll get Matt Miller thoughts on that, but if through this outweigh early in the show, and people have been texting in all morning long and I appreciate that. Thinking about Patrick Mahomes ten year, five hundred billion dollar contract and I wondered. Is there anybody in sports and there's obviously at least one player in Milwaukee, but is there anybody in sports that you would feel confident? Giving a ten year contract to text in right now to the Peleliu, I talk and text line, four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, hundred, seven, three. It would cost you a couple of hundred million dollars as you know, just like mahomes deal just like Mike Trout Steel. Is there anybody you would feel confident and every factor is different because in the NFL. You know guys don't generally last ten years especially at an elite level, but is there anybody you would feel confident? Giving a ten year contract to text in four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, ninety, seven, three, also up on at Mike Wicket. And the game and the AD, game. M. K. E. is running it as well. I came up with a couple of names Josh I've feel like every list coming in on the tax line. I'm guessing probably includes Jaanus his name along with maybe a couple of others. Yes, that is correct. I don't think we have one list Jaanus is not okay all right? That's fair I mean you've got. An MVP might be a two time MVP. Who is twenty five years old I think to me. That's part of the stipulation I. DON'T WANNA. Give a ten year contract to anybody over the age of twenty five. All right to me. That's because when you get into your thirties. Things start to you know for most athletes. Things usually start to slow down around thirty, two, thirty, three, thirty, four and I don't WanNa. Pay You fifty million dollars. If you're going to be the first guy off the bench, or you've gone from being a superstar to my fifth option on offense and basketball, or if your now a forty five million dollars a year designated hitter unless you're hitting seventy bombs in a season, you know. Aaron judge will eventually get there. There really isn't anybody. I think that is worth that at that spot, so it would have to be someone who is young someone who is elite someone. You can project to be elite at ten years. I think in the NFL. I think Patrick Mahomes is the only guy that I can think of that ten years from now, I will see playing at a pro bowl level. I To me. That's where the list ends in the NFL and your list might be different. What he got on the text line, Josh, Shirt Brian, and Milwaukee Texan and says his is yellow Jaanus and the Shawn, Watson the reason for Watson, he says is because he's athletic, a good pocket passer, a leader and is only twenty four. AGO with fat. I don't WanNa. Give Christian Yelich tenure deal. Christian Yelich Twenty, eight. I mean that if he if my if I'm GonNa, hold you know to my rules is twenty eight. He's going to be twenty nine in December. Do you want a thirty nine year? Old Christian Yelich out there. How how long the contract did the Burgess? Give Him what seven? Seven, so he's got what another. Thirty seven years at twenty eight, but some in my window of ten years at twenty five. That's about as long as I would give Yelich, but here's the thing Mike and this is what I was trying to say. I feel like if you are giving a player a ten year contract, you are paying them for seven. You understand you'll know that you're sacrificing a few years on the books because you want to have that talent locked up will jure comfortable Christian Yelich at twenty eight a ten year contract knowing at thirty eight. He's probably not hidden three twenty nine. He's probably not hitting thirty five home runs. Are you fine with knowing the Christian Yelich at age thirty nine is probably closer to to twenty nine, but you're still paying him because of what he did for you and twenty, twenty, twenty, one, twenty, two, twenty three. Yes. Okay see and I don't feel that it. And I know he's our guy and God love that trait and anybody who was crying about Lewis Brinson several years ago. You don't hear a peep out of them anymore. What's a long term contract woman did? That guy at ten year twenty million dollar contract I'm not giving that guy one hundred dollar loan right now. But I'm not giving Yelich ten year. Deal that I mean at twenty eight from this point. Because I know the back end is GonNa cost me one hundred and fifty hundred forty million dollars, and I'm certainly not getting that kind of productivity out of Christian Yelich seven eight years from now i. mean come on Lewis Brinson got a negative three point three career war good I mean that's I think that's bad, but I'm not a war guy. Yeah, that's true arm-in-arm. This Thing AG on the Paul W dot com, talk and text line, says jaanus Ronald Acuna Junior and Jami rant. You said John Over. Zion Ru jazz fun to watch. Giants I. Honor Fun to watch. Her must see TV I. Just don't think Zion's body is going to last for ten years. He looks doughy. Yeah, he looked doughy coming out of Duke Yep. He's only nineteen right. Yes, yeah! I mean ten years ago. Josh. You're Zion's age. Imagine if we gave you a ten year contract ten years ago. DID YOU HAVE ZION's body ten years ago? No! No I did not. Thank you for bringing that up. When it comes to when it comes in. I'm gonNA say or a KUNA. Sorry, yes, that's A. Very popular one on twitter, the twenty two year old star for the braves. That's a very popular answer. When it comes to the NBA besides Jaanus. I feel like just longevity wise. You're looking at shooters. More than you are? Big manner like if if Steph curry was I mean obviously he's older now, but. Like? A good seen steph get tenure contract. TRAE YOUNG TRAE under place for Atlanta, who's got a lot of comparison in his game to Steph curry, maybe a better passer, not nearly the shooter, but that's guy right there who you can see being that good. I love watching that guy play I would. I would consider giving trae young and Luca. Danni which. Ten Year deals because I, know how well rounded how well faceted and they can shoot i. think that's a good point. Look! If you honest was twenty eight I, wouldn't give him that ten year contracts. You still can't shoot. Jordan in the two six two says. With all the injuries in sports, the only person I would feel comfortable giving a ten year contract to is the team mascot now. So. He's not playing. You're not playing the game. My friend in text into the Palo W I. Talk and text line. Would you give a ten year contract I mean the list is not that long I don't think. They have to be great at a young age. They can't play in the NFL. I mean Shawn, Watson pick is an interesting one from a couple of texts ago. Four one, four, seven, nine, hundred, Ninety, seven, three, the Shawn Watson One's interesting. I feel like. When you watch the Shawn Watson play. How much does he rely on his legs? Because Lamar Jackson relies on his legs, patrick mahomes like Aaron Rodgers. Tremendous thrower can run doesn't have to run. Rogers is in my opinion, the greatest of the football in the history of the NFL and and what made him an elite and one of the one of the all time greats in my mind, pure ability is his ability to use his legs. When Rogers took off, it was like a weapon. Nobody else really had I see the same thing in Patrick Mahomes is to Shawn Watson more reliant on his legs. Then mahomes will that hurt him because of the freak injuries that can happen in the national football. That's why I'm a little hesitant. To give that contract, Shawn Watson but I listened to the suggestion. I think the biggest. Point through all this that I've noticed. Is a lot of detectors are saying either. MLB NBA and like you said that you would you away from baseball more than the rest which? I still disagree with you on I think or does actually's well. I kind want to know more about why you don't see baseball as the sport that would lead. You know those ten year contracts because the minor leagues because Guy Spent so many years in the minors trying I mean. How often does a first round pick I? Don't even know the name of the guy that would the Tigers drafted? But how long does it generally take sometimes a college kid to get two major league baseball, and then prove himself in. Major League baseball that he is. Is Great I mean if a if a twenty two year old college kid goes to a double A. and then gets called up after a brief stint in AAA. That kids often twenty, four, twenty five. How long till they're great me? Not Everybody that gets drafted out of high school is fast tracked and becomes Mike Trout or Stephen, Strasburg, who went to college Sjsu and got to. To the Big Leagues Mean Justin Verlander was great as soon as a year after getting to Detroit but how often to those guys not mature until they're twenty, six and twenty seven, and then are you GonNa give a twenty seven year old a ten year deal I just feel like there's so much that can happen in ten years that the older you are, those years take a. A bigger toll on your body, but how many bad contracts are we going to see five years from now for guys that are going to be thirty, eight, thirty, nine and forty that got ten year contracts because teams thought it was the right move to try to win now. But how do you think that a ten year contract in baseball is more risk than a ten year. Contract in the NFL. I mean. The set wouldn't give anybody in the only guy in the. NFL would give the deal to his is probably. Patrick. Mahomes I'd listen to Shawn Watson naming it. Would you do with any of the Green Bay? Packers? You give Jordan love a ten year. Deal right now. No, no, obviously do give. Would you give Devante the ten year? Deal right now. Would you Jay Stern a ten year? Deal right now. No Aaron Jones any running back God no no I mean the NFL is i. mean maybe maybe Mason Crosby feel like he could kick until he's like sixty seven. So I mean you. Come up with an NFL I. mean somebody on the Tha. The on twitter suggested Kenny Clarke no can Kenny. Get in my mind Kenny. She get a five year deal end of story, and then he could move on because that's the way the NFL works. The NFL shoes Yup spits you out. They use these players rightfully so until they can't. They can't block or they can't get to the quarterback, or they can't catch the ball anymore. The NFL's the last league I give a ten year deal to I'll listen to a ten year deal for a KUNA. I'll listen to a ten year deal for Juan Soto. Soto I'll listen to a ten year deal for some of these younger guys. If cast, it has a great year in the sixty game run and then next year. I'd listen who knows who cast in here is going to be for the brewers, but there I mean. Would you give a ten year deal at any pitcher on the brewers with Josh, Hader? Deal from you know. Amid because base-, Baseball starts at twenty, five, twenty six. The NBA starts at Nineteen or twenty for a lot of these guys, and you can see if they're going to be great by the time they're twenty two and you know you have all of their twenties to give them that I. Mean if you give us a ten year, deal the moment he won. The NBA's MVP a year ago. People would have been on board with it ten year. DEAL MVP base. The franchise owned the future. People would have been totally fine with that everywhere in Wisconsin. I still feel like they're that way now, but if they give them a two year deal, and then he gets twenty seven, and then you think about ten more years of watching Jaanus I don't know until you also. Like you said with shooters until Jaanus is really a good shooter I don't need them to be Kyle Korver until he's a good shooter from the outside. You know that's to me a big factor in prolonging a career in the back end of that ten year deal like I said and I think this applies with Mahomes as well. I think that the chiefs and any team in any sport that is going to put out a contract that is that long is sacrificing at least thirty percent of that contract time in in hopes that they win. Two or three championships, somebody on twitter said. Show Tani to eight player for the The Angel Tommy John Surgery though. Vlad Junior. That's not bad about cody bellinger. Here's the one I had on my list, yeah! Bellinger, about twenty, four twenty four. Yeah I can see that especially if the D. H.. You know becomes a natural thing in the estimates. A baseball wins this conversation. You came up with six names, and all of a sudden baseball wins the conversation. Yes, between the three sports baseball, it makes sense to a longer contract for baseball player than it does any other sport. It is up on the W I talk and text line, four, one, four, seven, nine, one, ninety, seven three. More of these on the other side also Matt Miller from on the LoC dot. COM will join us. There's a very popular show. It was number one trending on it Netflix's. Third Season Discuss why. It's the last season for this particular show. That's on the other side I'm like wicked. Infra Steve Zaven. This is the Stephen Show. While summers finally here in Pella, windows and doors. Wisconsin wants you to take time and enjoy it for God's sakes won't be here forever as we know. 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Were there walkup music somebody use this Major League baseball for the walkup music because that would be amazing I think Josh. Radic did it once in the as and there's that great clip fan going nuts, and like all like gyrating in the crowd. hoped becoming the orgy scene from the Matrix reloaded. Hey Matt to a bunch of here in our short conversation, but dead to me on Netflix got extended for a third and final season I would have been okay if it just never came back because the second season in my opinion wasn't good till the final episode and a half, but the Christina applegate's series, which was number one for a time on Netflix's coming back. Yeah. I mean Netflix. They're just GonNa green light everything right now. Studios have nothing else to do I, mean they? They can't so much right now. They can't really release much right now. So right I feel like every studio is just hearing pitches and being like Oh. I WANNA make. Sure why not? We'll translate and you're like Oh. You WanNa make Thursdays and you said that to me does very well, so it's a successful series, so it makes sense that they would do maybe one more season you know. Wrap up the characters. Give it a one final bow, and and and call it a day on that series. What Christina applegate when the Cartolini do other things. Have you watched Hamilton once twice three times or more on Disney, plus I've seen it three times now. The Times. What a smart move by Disney plus to work out that deal with lin-manuel Miranda's because I. Think we did the little bit on it yesterday. They had a million downloads over the three day weekend last weekend. I've seen it half the time, but I have three children that I have to chase around. They're all very very little so I don't I? We're trying to fit it in segments, but that's now the number one thing. I think on Disney. Plus Oh, it's it's easily the number one thing on Disney plus at a time, when Disney has very little new to offer right now all these new streaming services they all had. Had plans of having a bunch of new content, but since the coronavirus shutdown all the filming and all the production, they've really kind of had to struggle to find stuff, so this worked out well for Disney, plus however this, because people are always talking about Oh, put the movies that are supposed to put black widow on Disney plus put put this movie on Disney, plus this is why This is a bad idea so like we talked about Hamilton was the biggest thing of all time this weekend. You know tons of downloads, tons of people seventy four percent jump on Disney plus in terms of subscribers that equals to about. Seven hundred and fifty thousand new subscribers on Disney plot. And that equals to about five point two million dollars a month. That's not why they bought Hamilton for millions upon millions of dollars. That's decent number. Hamilton probably would have grossed a ton of money and tears, which is where it was supposed to go. This is supposed to be a theatrical release, and now it's pretty in some extra money to the streaming service. That's why you're not gonNA see. Black widow come to Disney plus anytime. That's a billion dollar movie and if they put it on, Disney 'cause it maybe up to five ten billion dollars more money. Do you really believe if they released? Released Black, or when they released black widow, considering the struggles and concerns of AMC the biggest movie chain in a country and all these other theater companies. D really think that movies will hit a billion dollars again anywhere in the next two to three years considering they may have, but I matter they going to allow full capacity. Do I have to sit every other road? Do I have to sit every other seat? Do I have to wear a mask when I'm in there I? Think less people going to theaters means they have to probably lower their expectations and my way off on that. I don't think you're entirely wrong but I think theaters and. For just so instead of having black widow show in five theaters per se a theatre. Let's say that Ridge New Berlin here in Milwaukee. That's nineteen screens normally a big movie. Fill four to five of those. Maybe, they feel. Like there's that much new coming out. Or you know. A lot of crowding as they say, you're going to see these massive releases because he's got this logjam jam of the year, so you're gonNA have like ten screens a black widow. Screens of a quiet place like you're I. Think you're going to see and that's GonNa. What really sucks about that? Is that small movies? Independent movies are probably gonNA got torched out. and ones with niche audiences those are gonNA get pushed up and that's important I can those are really great movies, too? Yeah, parasite and Roma are going to get moved to. You're not going to see those, and those were two fantastic films. Do you think Netflix and Hulu and apple and all these other streaming services? Are they looking at what's going on with the pandemic seeing their string numbers? Go Up and it. Would you think that this changes the way studios plan to? You know re film and released movies I mean is. Is there a shift lia think going towards what the consumer wants, and if people like me, who are uncomfortable going to a theater, but very comfortable streaming a movie. Does this change things big picture? Do you think? I would. A lot of my I would put all seventeen dollars that I own fast that at the end of this pandemic studios in the theater chains going to come together, and they are going to shorten the release window, which people don't know the reason why it takes a long for a movie to go from theaters to streaming that chains have this locked in I believe it's ninety day window might be a little bit less than that now. Where at the theaters have? Rights on that film can't screen early. You know poplar streaming early. They're gonNA shut that this slim that down a lot. Studios wanted a smaller window. Audiences wanted to smaller window so I think you're probably GONNA. See a negotiation where we end up with maybe a month long when where you know movie has exclusive theatrical. That's the month, and then it can go to streaming or which is premium Vod, I think that's definitely going to happen when things go back to whatever normal looks like on the other side of this. He met. What's what's Tom Hanks deal right now? He says it's heartbreaking that Greyhound was going to apple plus a now he said no rescued by Apple. Plus what what? What's he really saying? I I think. Some I think producer probably gotten easier and told them that like. Hey, you're movie still coming out so that's nice and also. Probably wasn't going to make that much money this summer on Greyhound. was you know it's Tom Hanks? It's a war movie looks like a great dad movie but those movies don't make a ton of money money that much anymore. I don't think we were looking at you. Know the box office hit of the year and I think it being on Apple, pl-. Apple TV, plus where it's one of three movies and ten TV shows 'cause they're not much on apple. TV plus right now I think being this kind of spotlight. Part of that streaming services could actually do it some benefits. So there is a new podcast coming out that I'm probably going to check out a fourteen episode podcast about the office, an oral history of the office. It's going to be hosted by the actor who played Kevin from the office. It's GonNa Feature Steve, corral. It's GonNa Feature Ricky Gervais S-. which is Kinda cool And for some reason, Billy Bush is going to be part of one of. Of the episodes, not hundred percent sure why other than she is a Superfan, but this is kind of neat. It's it's amazing to me like from the nineties to see the effect that Seinfeld hat on the rest of the world I mean it's still on forty seven different channels every single day, but the office seems to be that next mega hit that people just can't get enough of. I'm just so glad that we're finally talking about this. Underrated under talked about TV show the office. I feel like when we have like Star Wars Day. And why do we need a day? Set aside to talk hey. Every day it's like Oh. It's Marvel Movie Day. Every day's marvel movie. Day what are we doing here like? Every day is office. Reunion Day. Like two weeks ago. How often are they going to reunite? Show. Matt. Matt will not be listening to the oral history of the officer. A man I also want to know your thoughts with this announcement. What does this do I mean with the office? Ladies podcast because that was kind of take off, and that was supposed to be a behind the scenes kind of look at the office, right and now. They can't be happy about it right. Like kind of feels like shot across about. If you like listen, we could do a better version, right? and that's what I heard. I I have a lot of friends who are also sands and they've told me that you know that podcast wasn't their favorite. You know they love the show, but they don't love the podcast so I, think maybe they're looking at a different way of going about it. That might be a little bit more satisfying for office. One of the movies that are getting released very soon. I mean they're about to take off. Well honestly the annoying answer to that question that I have to say every week is we don't know yeah, yeah. Coming out on August twelfth, we'll see if that stave they're. Not 'cause I mean Los Angeles in Los Angeles I. Believe is down theaters, and that's the second largest movie market, and obviously Hollywood so i. Just really don't know I, I wish I had some more events concrete answers for you. Got Palm Springs. We've got greyhound coming on stream and. Obviously I've been to movie theaters I haven't really loved them. The way I did before this so just stay home and watch straightening for right now. it's safer and the movies are really good I've seen some really good stuff on streaming. Really good. He watched it three times Matt. Miller from on Milwaukee Dot. Com Matt good to talk with you. My friend thanks so much for coming on. Forever. Matt Miller Milwaukee Dot Com ran at the time. I was GONNA ask him about TIKTOK. pretentiously getting banned in the United States. Would that be the best day ever? Why? Why? Why do you like? Why do you want to take things away from people that bring them joy, yes. Great question tracks every move. And we have enough things that track ever move. I just saw back. You just picked up your phone. You don't think that that's a tracking device. Agree but. But he doesn't like this tracking device. I. Only Lighted Mine Tracking Devices Right. Here's the thing about you in about me. We're not that important. Government the big government can get contract meal. They want you know what I do. I stay at home with three babies most of the time, and if I'm lucky, I get to talk to you. Youtube guys and the rest of the State of Wisconsin for a week at a time. That's it go ahead big government. You can track me all you want. That's what I got. Remarried fine. Even use mine. I don't use TIKTOK didn't use mine I'm not twelve years old fine with the past. If it was the best, it would would've survived. Let's be honest. It was. It was. Her. Oh my goodness final segment of the day coming up on the other side, an NBA, Hall of Famer doesn't send his own tweets. You see this story. Plus what am I Abrahams Beverages is having a big run. During the Kobe nineteen pandemic Mike wicked in prestige, and we'll get to that next on the Steve Zaven show. Dot Com. Seven three the game. Is What's trending in Milwaukee that game. Mike Billion Informs Speed David here on this New Zealand show. Get Her and Josh or both here. Already, almost almost done with Wednesday show. I mentioned this when I was filling in on the game in Milwaukee Witham boy. Chuck Freeman! And like my life that I've normally doing at this moment is dealing with three crying babies. And? This is kind of like a vacation. And like you ever go on vacation and you get. Maybe halfway. Through a five or six day vacation, and and all of a sudden you start thinking. Man I gotta go home soon I'm trying not to think about the end of Friday's show. Is We here on Wednesday 'cause? This is just so much fun the. Only one that Wa- goes into the mid week of vacation thinking about the different vacation. Same. Blah put my boarding pass and yeah. I gotTA check in. We'll make sure to save that that last audio clip. unplayed for your kids later. Later in life, mother, Hey, graduating high school. When you guys were just little little tykes yeah at their wedding and their wedding montage. Speech I can just play that maybe like it was great when I got a break from you. Little, you know. Whatever, we actually called Chuck yesterday with Kuhn Bush, which will be heard later after nine. Ninety, seven, three and W NFL, and he shockingly new the guy who fired the gun, not surprising. What's his name? Chuck Freeman it was? It was not show. Because he was on the time, so he had plausible deniability sure. He said he did Birdie that whole though. said he's afraid to go to that whole now because he's like Oh man. So. It was waiting to hear him. Like. You feel safe going to that particular Gulf whole. You should feel safe golfing that no one's going to shoot you. Aiming for a would shock or whatever the thing was shooting at like true I know in this country. We love our guns and Wisconsin nights love their guns I understand that I have no problem with your of a second right in your Second Amendment right. But can we figure out a better way to take care of a would shock that close to the vicinity golf course instead of pulling out your whatever gun you used to kill a rodent. Yeah I mean you can put the the all bucket with the ramp and birdseed nail fom among it, or you can make some explosives that are molded to look like other gophers funny rabbit. I mean I've. Works Very. Wings has Abe ever asked you guys to tweet for him? No no, but John Kuhn has. Really. Yeah what time. Like right off the Bat John Kuhn was like. I'm not sure exactly what I'm supposed tweet here. Can you dislike? Type it up and send it to me. I was like. Well depending on a somebody's personal perspective, this from silver screen and roll dot Com Magic Johnson the great magic Johnson, either has the best or worst account on NBA twitter terrible with almost no inbetween. gator would agree as someone who's name is escaping me. One said magic tweets like someone who thinks they're the only one with television, providing the most lukewarm takes and updates possible to everyone without a TV usually a day, or so after whatever he's tweeting. tweeting about happen, that's pretty good. That's actually pretty pretty spot on why he loved tweeting. And what are essentially ESPN? APP push alerts so much. Is that why he wanted to step down from running the Lakers as an endlessly fascinating question s for the people are really fixated on this. As the writer of this story writes, it turns out. It gets even more interesting because apparently magic isn't even the ones sending his own tweets as he. He revealed to Rob Lowe at a truly bizarre exchange. Why wouldn't rob lowe and Magic Johnson have a conversation about this an appearance on Rob Pelinka's lookalike podcast. I didn't Rob Pelinka look like Rob Lowe Rob Lowe rights or said Dino. Pardon my take their podcast. Those guys are huge fans as you know. And I said Look, you're the best boards podcast GonNa be interviewing magic. He's going to be one of my first guest you. You of new questions. You have any thoughts blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah I don't know I have somebody right out my tweets I. Tell them what I wanted to say, and they write them down. That's actually what Kuhn did for you. John. Yeah yeah, exact, exact, same thing, so yeah I can see it four point nine million followers. He has on twitter I. Don't think follow Magic Johnson, because he's so milk milk toast, so here's the thing. I have learned and I. I agree with this take that a lot of celebrities athletes. They don't want to be on social media. They understand that it can ruin their careers, but it becomes part of deals that they signed with sponsors, and all this other stuff that they need to be promoting their brands on social media, so if you really are worried about yourself, messing up on social media, but you're being forced to buy some contract that you signed to make a bunch of money promoting something then I. Guess that's a good solution. If I was worth six hundred million dollars. I would delete my twitter account. I wouldn't care about deal with Lay's potato chips or Steve's ice cream or whatever about? Sure put a Hashtag at a picture of me holding up a Gillette Razor on my twitter account. Magic is so damn rich. He shouldn't have a twitter account, but isn't that thing and I wouldn't know this. We can ask it or get her, isn't it? When you have a lot of money. You want more money. Yeah, sternhell goes for most people I would say okay so. You know maybe that's maybe that's how magic is looking at it. I find that amount of money I would I would do everything power not lose that money. His company is worth a billion dollars. He owns movie theaters and starbucks, and here's one hundred and twenty-five starbucks. One hundred and twenty-five starbucks you mentioned the Movie Theater Company? He owns TGI. Fridays Clubs movie theaters. Real Estate. Promotional Marketing Company. I mean he owned? Part of the dodgers are known part of the dodgers Levy deal. Gotcha. If I was worth a billion dollars. I wouldn't have a twitter account wouldn't care about twitter. and. It's just strange that somebody else has to write his tweet Suaram. The thing, the thing is is that if you're sitting there and you're saying well if I? Have someone else right my tweets. It if they do a bad job, it's still it's still on you. Yeah, right so your account if somebody comes from his twitter account that is racist or whatever terrible. Knowns going to go well, but don't forget. He doesn't write his own, so we're not going to judge him. Like they're still gonNa you know. Put Him to the fire. In a non related story, did you see that the demand for one of my favorite things in the world box? Wine is up huge because of the pandemic. I didn't see but I. Sure believe it. You mean the bags boxed wine. Flan! Toilet paper, disinfectant wipes wine in a box of all seen a dramatic increase in sales as shoppers load up on lockdown orders during the pandemic, but none have seemed to the seem to have risen to the cultural occasion quite like the cardboard boxes of wine, the cheaper alternative bottles that have been around for decades, but haven't even been considered borderline cool until recently boxed wine sales jumped thirty six percent for the. Period ending in the middle of June compared with the same period last year, outpacing the twenty nine percent increase in overall retail wine sales during the same period. They're worried about money and they. WanNa get drunk. Solution Box. One box wines, not bad man. It's come a long way. It's not just Franziska. Yeah, but it's true, isn't it? Still it's still cheaper than. Your other options, right. With eighteen, you get more. It's like buying in bulk. Cheaper you, there's really expensive bottles of wine, but I think I think the quality a lot of box wine. And I. I've I've trust me I've done a lot of research on this. Yes. The the quality of box wine has really stepped its own game up. Sense you know the days of just the frontier chilled white or chilled. Read that sits in your fridge for a while especially when you were like twenty one and pull that out of your fridge. Because you thought you were being classic, 'cause, get a box of wine. Look any time that you can get drunk from something with a spigot I'm all for. Mike. Are A cab or got. Absolutely yeah, but the difference I think Josh is the rest of us. Pick it over glass and turn it on whereas you kind of like. Soft, serve ice cream things. Stick your head underneath that it's not. That's not what your host to do or cheese was i. do the cheese Whiz right into your mom? Maybe look their heart. There isn't like a law telling me I can't do it that way, okay? Let me live online. There's also. Clause, that's also true. Box wine doesn't come with an instruction manual. Consume it boxed. Wine is further creative people. Is that what? It is yeah yeah. Project. It's have fun this afternoon. What can you? What can you create? That should be that should be their tagline frontier. What can you create this afternoon? Box wine triggers certain part of the brain that doesn't normally get used, or what yes, well, if you drink it right from the spirit of God, okay. Do you happen to have a bang the drum handy I'd like to close a little hacker conversation right here. If play that. Somebody tweeted this out. Somebody who works for ot h Wisconsin. Nathan Marzi tweeted this out. Now youth everybody remembers the crazy year that chiefs quarterback now the half billion dollar man Patrick Mahomes had in two, thousand eighteen. He was the the MVP remember that right how great that year was for home. Who had the better numbers twenty eight? Or twenty eleven Aaron. I'm just going to run through this guy's completion, percentage rogers or mahomes, Rogers, correct touchdown, percentage, rogers, or rodgers, correct interception percentage Rogers or home. His. Yards per attempt Rogers or mahomes that might have been mahomes rogers while say Rogers. Air Air yards per attempt Rogers or Mahomes I'm GONNA. Guess! Rogers, Rogers. Mahomes. Let's let's go. Probably Rating Rogers or Friars rushing touchdowns, Rogers or Mahomes Jaanus. With the Answers Rogers C. P. O. which I don't even know what that means, but at some nerdy stat rogers or Mahomes I. Think you have to consult your doctor before you get medication for. dv Oh a rogers or mahomes rogers so as great as the twenty eighteen year was for Patrick Mahomes in a league that was built for his skill set of throwing the ball all around the yard. Who had the better year twenty eleven Aaron Rodgers. So that it should you know if you got a chief's Fan sitting around your house or you're wondering boy who had a better year. Interest Twenty. Eleven Aaron Rodgers. He's going to get a ten year contract then yeah, no, but I did have somebody on twitter. I had to fight back and say they were going to give David. Bahktiar area tenure deal God. I'd give David Bacteria, two year deal right now end of story. They've seen that man. Drink a beer. I have actually yeah. You know he does it better than Aaron Rodgers. There you go. That's the only one fair. Nailed it. Thanks for coming on, also Bryant sick. Thanks to I'M GOING TO WALK DOT COM. Matt Miller. Who joined us as well? We'll do it again. Coming up tomorrow. It'll be the Thursday and makes to Josh and things to get her for holding it down. This has been the Steve Zaven show Madison. You've got Dan Patrick. Koon and Butch in Milwaukee and Green Bay. Zave I'm Mike. Wicket thanks so much for listening aggregrate. SMART device. I'm listening. Play 97.3 the game on iheartradio.

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#742: Being John Malkovich at 20 / Dietrich-Von Sternberg #4 - The Scarlet Empress

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#742: Being John Malkovich at 20 / Dietrich-Von Sternberg #4 - The Scarlet Empress

"Thanks to graham early for supporting film. Spotting grammar is a communication tool that helps people improve their writing to be mistake free clear ineffective start writing confidently by going in grammar dot com slash film spotting to get twenty percents off a grammar lee premium account today <hes> ooh what kind of a show you guys put non interested in going to do this thing. You're going to have a conversation from chicago go. This is known spotting. I'm adam. I'm josh larssen. We can put you inside. Someone else's body for fifteen minutes. Can i be anybody that don't one of the well actually you can be john malkovich perfect. What's my second choice. It's wonderful if i could be in anybody's body for fifteen minutes. Gotta be jordan michael jordan in the nineties or you okay just sitting courtside watching the charlotte hornets. It's rough place for the hornets right now. Either they'll honestly real yeah either fair enough john cusak and catherine keener in that clip from being john john malkovich which is twenty this year. This week is part of our nine. From ninety nine series. We revisit the debut film from director spike jones and writer charlie kaufman plus nineteen eighteen thirty four's the scarlet empress the fourth and final film in our marlene dietrich joseph on sternberg marathon all that more in tanzania ahead on film sliding welcome to film spotting. Thank you josef von sternberg for your eighty minute movies. We made it through this latest phone. Spotting marathon fund in record time it doesn't happen very often and we did finally get a little closer to the two hour mark with his last film the scarlet empress from nineteen thirty four but it was a nice change of pace. It felt like i saw that running time and i was. I've been spoiled like what come on eight hundred and fifteen minute exactly i did it. We'll talk the scarlet empress later in the show and we will wrap up this marathon as we always do with the marathon awards and we had not as of our last show or walking into the studio settled on on a name for these awards so i thought why not on air production meeting josh. We have a few ideas here. Starting with one that came in from listener. Laura ellis said i very much enjoyed the marlene dietrich marathon especially the scarlet empress. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The awards should be called the lily von stoop memorial awards after madeline kahn's wonderful parody of dietrich rick in blazing saddles. You'll honor both actresses. Another listener did suggest the von steps. I love that because kahn's performance one of my favorite comic performances of all time time even before i had any dietrich rilya to put the context to now it's even greater yeah i always enjoyed that performance without getting it a- at all and now we've done this marathon. I do get it of course the professor nathaniel myers who we will hear from during this marathon setting south as he does and also participating being in the awards he suggested the boas for that particular moment dietrich pulls back her boa during morocco as well as all the various feathers and frill she wears throughout these movies it it also has a nice pun on dietrich's many snake like acts of temptations or we could go a little deeper cut josh the benton's travis banton the costume designer for the three of the four films in this marathon and finally he suggested it's a little wordy but something like the butterfly lights or the butterfly shadows since butterfly airfli- lighting is apparently what they call the kind of lighting often used on dietrich as it creates a shadow in the shape of a butterfly under her nose and which is maybe the most incredible factoid of the whole marathon so something about butterflies boas benton's we could go von steps or sam suggested our producer. Maybe just simply the lola's what say you. I'm leaning toward the boas. I don't know if that gives von sternberg enough credit though good point. I mean touches on the costumes. We're bringing that into it. I love at that moment. I think that is probably where i'm leaning okay. You know what i'm on board. Okay going with enough. The bo is the way dietrich looks and has looked throughout these marathon films has been so striking we might as well recognized that and of course the work of travis banton as well the costume designer so we will share the boas a bit later i though let me move this filing cabinet out of the way open this little door and we can dive into being john malkovich. Thank you welcome to the seven and a half larr bill. My name's coach worth and i have interview lester crease had a seat. Mr warrants payment shorts. These two letters comes. I just went over this. The symbol on the left is not a letter sir. Damn me a good. I don't know your name where you work the other lines again. Those long pants chris so honey. You thought any more about us having a baby i i think she's waiting to see if his job. There's a tiny door in my office maxine and it takes you inside john malkovich. There's new it is kashmir company. Our our our our company strike kepler kepler kepler kepler empire camping our camp and our cat are coming. Our kippen are coming our camping but kepler kepler kepler company our kemba dr kepler kepler kepler adam camping are well done. I can't take credit for that. I wished i let her albert mel front who i met at the l._a. Meet up. He made that joke. I think it was either earlier today or yesterday and it did give me the perfect setup for our nine from ninety nine review of being john malkovich. Did you understand all of that ad i should i go over to speak malkovich. Speak company say that is your date of tongue. Let's try this anyway it. It seems like a bizarre thing to say about being john malkovich but the movie makes sense now in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine as the feature screenwriting debut of charlie kaufman. We didn't in quite know what to make of this bazaar dark comedy about a puppeteer played by john cusack who stumbles upon a portal that put you inside. John malkovich's head literally seen what he assise for fifteen minutes even glowing four star review from roger ebert at the time opened with puzzlement. What an endlessly inventive movie. The says ebert route charlie kaufman the writer of being john malkovich supplies a stream of dazzling inventions twists and wicked paradoxes well today our question about being being john malkovich which also marked the feature direct oriel debut of spike jonze is how well that inventiveness has aged now in twenty nineteen after kaufman's received that oscar nomination for his malkovich screenplay and went onto right the likes of adaptation and turns on china the spotless mind he won an oscar for the latter one and after he's directed films like new york and anomaly so stop motion puppets in that one we should note well in light of what kaufman and would go on to do being john. Malkovich makes perfect sense and even feels familiar. You've got your frustrated. Creative male protagonists to lowe's himself even even more than the audience probably. Does you have evocative women characters who both be devil in which the hero cameron diaz and catherine keener co-star here and you have an emotional emotional nihilism that suggests human beings are probably not capable of more than satisfying their own immediate desires watching it again adam being john malkovich. Yeah bitch was familiar even though i hadn't seen it in twenty years but does it feel tame. I'm curious twenty years later what you still found invigorating stimulating emulating or provocative about the movie has its head spinning the lure slow down or did it spin your head in new ways yeah. It didn't feel tame at all and we certainly certainly could go on about the connections to kaufman's work. Some of which you touched on we could talk about some of the various ideas it provokes. I'm sure we will but on a basic level and i can't wait to hear about your experience. What i found most invigorating was how much the movie surprised me of any movie series so far and i'm just saying surprise me in terms of what happens over the course of story just starting there on a surface level. This is the movie that it turns out. I remembered the least of the films we've done and i never never would have guessed that i would've told someone will of course being john. Malkovich is the movie about the pathetic puppeteer and the portal into malkovich's head and i guess i assume that that filled up ninety indie two hundred minutes because that's the film right well. I forgot how truly dark this movie is. When it comes to the relationships send that phrase that we use very generously last week with linklaters where'd you go. Bernadette the emotional complexity of those relationships kaufman and jones jones steer us through a truly twisted psychological and existential swamp to start with. I forgot how contemptible comfortable craig's play by john cusak. He's fuelled by lust and unhappiness. He's back. He's pretentious. He's he's filled with contempt but the way that jones and kaufman approach his art here for the most part is done in a serious way. There's validation allegation i think and there's redemption in the care with which they bring his art to life and the way certainly near the end of the film it's received once. He's taken over malkovich's pitches body. He's totally selfish but i think by the end the movie suggests he's totally selfish and the way great artists may need to be in terms of being singularly focused focused and driven so you hate him on one level but you certainly also pity him at various points to the biggest revelation though was cameron diaz and her character victor lodhi. I would have told anybody who asked that. Lodhi was just this kind of plane. Nagging wife who was completely on the periphery of the film obviously i'd forgotten the ending and she's they're ultimately to serve craig's trajectory. You watch the film again. You realize wow that's definitely not the case. It's this is much her journey as it is craig's and she certainly the more sympathetic character but here's where the complexity comes in. She's selfish to she wants to use malkovich to you be fulfilled and there is of course a little bit of a sexual component to that perhaps but the experience of being inside malkovich transforms her in a way that i found genuinely tender her and touching at i love the way d. as conveys that conversion that kind of sublime state that she's in after the first time she's in the car craig picked her up off the new jersey turnpike where they get dumped out after they've been inside malkovich for those fifteen minutes and it's almost like she's trying to recall the most vivid exciting exciting dream. She's ever had thing insights into me. Why was it and said everything needs sent you work chain john malkovich and was wasn't they john and there's also the mechanism of that hilarious scene where maxine catherine keener comes over for dinner this is post conversion experience for lodhi and she's sitting on the couch between both of them and they're both just so mesmerized enthralled thrall by her that at the same time they just can't take it anymore and they throw themselves on top of her and the aftermath of that is great because there's not even really embarrassment embarrassment or acknowledgment despite the fact that they're they're husband and wife and they both leapt on to this other woman is just a reality that they both except in the moment and these are people who probably do even at that point still love each other or have strong feelings for each other but they're just completely willing to sacrifice that old love for this new love or at least this new feeling that maxine has sparked in both of them and i mentioned briefly there talk about dark the implications of the ending of this film where you do have to awake for craig and the existence he's relegated to for eternity. It seems even as we're happy for all of the other characters and you could argue on some level he deserves it so so i think it also puts the exclamation point what the movie is ultimately about for me which is control so those were all the big surprises for me. What about you well. I even as i said it was very familiar with coffins other films in mind. It was absolutely surprising because i had not revisited it in twenty years so that's one thing in but i had the same memory of what this movie was about and there was so much more to it including d. as a performance which is fantastic and how and the way that craig and cusak. I really really diminish and diminish as the movie goes on the cameos. I'd completely forgotten. David fincher brad pitt giving malkovich to the side is such a great moment it on the red carpet leaders in the film and malkovich himself what i would have told you is your he pops up has a little fun with sona. This gives econ rate performance. Performance gives a fantastic performance but it almost becomes his birth. Yes is struggle and yeah just to. It's a touch on that performance a little bit. It's very funny of course self deprecating as you would expect but mostly captures the horror of you've been stuck inside your head to the point of it. It's just it's self annihilation via supreme narcissism and the way way he captures the terror of that is at once funny and self deprecating but also yeah it's it it just makes it a horror film and in that segment midwest comes into focus so that was one thing that surprised me <hes> but yeah i guess the things that challenged me provoked me. I was fascinated fascinated in the context of twenty nineteen how this does bring in the transgender element of its use in the film is transsexual <hes> <hes> and this is as you said after she does experience life through malkovich is cameron. Diaz is lottie says she wants to be a man. She degraded. I want to be a man. I yeah i don't know you know again. If you put a twenty nine hundred context how much it actually says about gender identity as you intimated it's very much tied to sexual desire her and that aspect of it especially considering she's she's motivated by having sex as malkovich with catherine keener as maxine so this goes back to another kaufman thread that it's almost always about the immediate human desire driving us to play. I think it's deeper than that with lottie which we can get to but sex is definitely a component fakih yeah well. That's what i was. That's what i was wondering about because it was fascinating to me in ninety nine that it brings this into the conversation but it still seems to be coming about it from a different angle than we might today where the sexuality is only one element of gender identity say i'll just say real quick on that note when that concept concept was brought up of her wanting to exist in that different body feeling like she belonged to that body i of course was thinking about all the elements you just touched on and how i had no l. idea that it would sort of be relevant twenty nineteen and away in nineteen ninety nine. I definitely didn't think about it all but i wondered if it would exist only on that plane more metaphorically directly versus literally and then as i'm thinking this almost in the next sentence she says i think i wanna be a man actually describes wanting to possibly have surgery become the mail yeah yeah it it it does dig into its i found that absolutely fascinating <hes> very provocative and then also the main thing for me i would say is it goes back to the context of kaufman's career. There was a real poignancy for me in watching this his first film scene his first stab at countering during the despair that we know he's going to continue to explore being forwarded as we know. He's almost always going to be thwarted in his movies. His movies are are going to be thwarted at trying to counter that despair i._c._s. Say and hear you. We see one of his first potential saviors to this deep malays and it's becoming someone else for me. This is about the desire a t to leave yourself behind find a better life by simply being someone no one else and it doesn't work here. <hes> it just it just fails and you could argue that all of his films try to find a cure to the human condition in some way and fail. Maybe the most hopeful apple is eternal sunshine. At least the structure offers to readings of that where we could see it is hopeful. <hes> i do think in anomalies <hes> he's found. There's something there about about making art itself. This goes back to your comment about them. Really respecting the art we see on the screen something in anomalies about making itself makes life life worth living even if it's a depressing story absolutely but it's gorgeous lee told via stop motion relates disinfecting definitely trying to slide that editor in my memory that's the most cheddar one and and yeah of course looking at his upcoming projects and the next film is titled. I'm thinking of ending things so so who knows you know what that's going to be light but we definitely have seen this trajectory of continually wrestling with a deep malaise about the human condition and being in ford it in different ways and for me there was a sadness <hes> a good sadness if you can have that but in watching being john malkovich express this rod distress and knowing that a full career of angst is waiting waiting for guffman. I mean it's yet setting the table. Yeah all of it really is and i think you used as a key word there that transitions into that key theme of the movie for me you said thwarted and how that fits into this idea of control. That's really the underlying despair for me and what's driving that desire to want to take over someone else's body there thwarted in every aspect of life that might bring them some kind of satisfaction so you think about craig in lahti both the people we meet the beginning of the film. They're both kind of powerless. They're both unsatisfied in their lives. You could say the unsatisfied creatively both of them because i'm stretching the term creatively here a little bit but think about craig not being able to be the puppeteer genius. The world won't let him be that puppeteer genius that he clearly feels he is he has that line. I feel i suffer. All i ask in. Return is the opportunity to do my work and they won't allow it. They won't allow it as if there really are these forces out there keeping him from his true calling which really isn't the case at all and for lahti audie she at least at one point expresses that desire to want to have a baby she wants to create two and is at least in some part dependent on craig in order are to make that happen and isn't able to bring that to fruition either maxine comes along and that that merger of maxine and malkovich when that that becomes what connects craig lodhi to malkovich that empowers both of them it gives them both a different path they see for our happiness and even though it's not as initial he really just wants to go to bed at first with catherine keener maxine character but he does eventually get to achieve artistic goals as well through her malkovich and he's doing it by literally controlling malkovich. He's pulling the strings on the puppets. He's bending them to his will and then we see him. Actually pulling malkovich's strings and maxine of course is pulling both craig strings again it gets back to that scene where she's stuck in the the middle and she is just living off of the feeling that vibe both of them are giving off to her her great line the comes later after craig has started to be able able to actually manipulate malkovich and the horror of malkovich losing complete control <hes> disruptions of the movie that your mind kind of breaks a second honiara whoa we're not only in here but now we're able to control tried also completely forgotten about remember her line where she so gidley says. Let's have sex on this table. Let's have sex on his table and make them eat. An omelette off of it and malkovich says no the real malkovich. Lets out this big yelp of no. I don't i think in that moment we're supposed to believe she's all sexually excited because she loves having sex with physically john malkovich nor emotionally psychologically gigli craig inside of malkovich's body. It's the fact that he doesn't want it to happen and she can completely control the situation. She can get greg to do what she wants. She can get malkovich to have to suffer through that moment having sex on his table and making him later eat an omelette off of it. That's what gets her off. It's a complete power play. That's why would you say that. She empowers them. Yes i see what you mean by the things she she gives them things. They think they want right but ultimately. It's so that she can she servings. Oh yes and it's a total power play the other line she has. She says it comes right out and says it. It's playing with people she explains it and she also there is an element of a her own desires being met there because she also explains. I think it's too craig <hes> that you've never experienced having having two pairs of eyes looking at you at once with lust and devotion. Is that the other thing like that. Of course you keener owner is good just wicked here. I mean you talk about <hes> craig possibly getting what he deserves keener. Maybe the and we'll get into the ending. 'cause i think you know there are some issues i might have there but keener baby gets the best of the endings her clearly and she probably deserves the least so. I'll is lottie certainly what she wants this film i touched on it. She wants a baby. She gets a baby and then she wants. Even though that's not an aspect that's really emphasized throughout the film. It's adjusted at the beginning and at the end she gets it and she wants maxine and she gets maxine. She does get maxine. Although that's where things get tricky again with what happens to her desire to be a man because she's not a man at the end there the more i feel like the ending ending this is we talked very briefly lascaux about how it wasn't in my top ten listen. I just wondered why not i mean the reputation and everything and i did have some issues with the ending in here and how everything was almost kinda rushed to try to bring to a conclusion that didn't always fit and this is not a movie that you should worry about the you know. It really does not try. I didn't know and it doesn't make real sense of their relationship. It's almost like they were positioned that way in order to put craig where he was sure rather than <hes> was any real logic with the desires that they had expressed earlier. There's no doubt i mean keener has a pretty sudden reversal and so i agree that it does rush to that moment at the end i guess for me. The fact that it doesn't necessarily follow through completely on the transsexual idea that's brought up is that i think the movie actually does give credence to what craig says to her in that moment where he's trying to counter what she's saying and what he says might actually be correct which is that she's just had this life-changing mind mind altering experience. It makes sense that she would then go to that place but he kind of says. Maybe that's not what you want. You don't necessarily really but you do feel you do feel converted in a way and so we see lottie over the course of the film not make as drastic conversion but as dramatic of one yeah yeah that's possible awesome and then just real quickly. I do think the ending <hes> a movie like this. I said doesn't need to explain its rule so it's a bit dissatisfying that it tries and and this has to do with the whole reveal about dr lester and <hes> the back story where the the room came from where the portal came from how he's been using it all these years how in the world all those people go into one mind or and even how cusak gets trapped. I know it was explained in the diagram but but it's almost like doc basically there it is this movie should have any diagrams and i think it leans on those in the final ten minutes in ways that that are a little raises more questions than it needs to sure but at the end i'm stuck thinking about the emotional reality of the moment less than the mechanics of it because the movie is basically told me you can disregard the mechanics. None of of this makes any sense whatsoever so they really doesn't which is why they shouldn't spend so much time trying to explain rushed the whole lester like subplot. What in the end could have been left out in a way where we just understood enough to know that somehow craig was trapped for needs no the legit though also it does bring up this is larger notion of mortality that certainly runs throughout kaufman's work. We see that in leicester and his crew when i was thinking about this film earlier today the image that i kept coming back to and really used the word emotion and emotional here so many times but i keep thinking about what lodhi experiences in this film and especially that first time when she is inside malkovich and she seeing the world were seeing the world through her eyes through malkovich's is and that feeling of enjoy again that she expresses seeing maxine and it is that frame that is almost like you're watching a movie screen. You're you're aware that you're almost watching a movie. The screen and the thrill for her is looking at that screen and feeling like she's being seen as viewer that maxine is actually looking back at her in acknowledging her in some way and so. I'm gonna throw this out here. Josh and i'm not necessarily suggesting that this is a conscious choice on kaufman's part but it certainly it would fit in with his concern was self reflexively and how meta his films are and certainly how obsessed with the artistic process they are. It occurs to me the being john malkovich. Vich freely is all a metaphor for the control of but also the exploitation of art and the artist. So where does everyone kind of fit into the escape maxine. I think you can pin pretty clearly as the producer right. She's all about the money. I don't think she ever even even it's not suggested we don't see it either that she even enters the portal. She doesn't really care about what is happening. Inside of malkovich herself doesn't care about the art if you will oh she doesn't think about whether others any real good or harm coming from it. She doesn't think about any of the philosophical questions it raises it brings her two things she cares about money and sex and it also she's on the phone a lot. She is truly always making careful. You're seen a lot of producer insult so many people. That's just work with me. Craig is the director. He has genuine vision. He does have something to say but he can't say on his own. He needs to employ other people. The even when he's in control of malkovich is craig who's physically maneuvering those puppets. He's maneuvering malkovich who maneuvering the puppets and like a lot of directors. He's he's ambitious. He wants the adulation that comes with this art and then. I think that's where the viewer lobbies the audience. I think that's why we probably sympathize sympathize with her. The most she consumes the art she's moved by the art by the experience of it and i think it's probably easy to say then that john malkovich is is the actor in the scenario. He's the vessel that has to be controlled in order for everyone else to get what they want. And when i floated this theory earlier earlier today by sam he pointed out that of course in kaufman's world he could also be the writer and i kind of dismissed it because i already thought of it that makes sense with kaufman you think about his other films but why complicate the metaphor if you have to why not just go with the fact that malkovich's literally actor playing himself in the film but but the more i thought about it semi be on to something because you could argue that what malkovich ultimately doesn't get to do malkovich the character in this movie by being taken over by these people he no longer gets to tell his own story which is what happens of course to writers in hollywood and there's a great line a great exchange it happens when malkovich storms the company the seven seven and a half four and and sees the portal and he says that portal is mine and it must be sealed forever for the love of god hears about sir with all due respect expect. I discovered that portal. I mean it's my livelihood understand. It's my head. Schwartz gets my head. I will see you in court that seemed to be exactly like an exchange that you could probably read in some trade magazine between a writer and a director or producer where this this director schwartz in this instance really feels like well. I discovered this. I discovered this so it's mine and i needed to to survive in and <hes> make money and be successful and malkovich saying that that is mine this this thing that you've taken these mind. I'll see you in court. It seems like a classic writer director battle to me malkovich malkovich and that's really yeah. I mean if it's if it wasn't an intentional metaphor i think it certainly functioned as a premonition because it seems like coffin would encounter many of those struggles as he went on from here in tried to make other films adaptation is in subways a complete literal enactment of that sort of dynamic <hes> okay so cusak as the director. Let's talk about this movie's director. We spent a lot of time talking about kaufman and spike jones here. I think what i appreciated a lot about this and also saw how it was crucial to the further work he would do with kaufman is just his tactile contributions. This is kaufman is a guy of ideas <hes>. His screenplays are stuffed with ideas for it to be a movie. Somebody's gotta gotta make you feel like you can touch it and think about the ways we have that here the portal itself. I mean it's biological right. It's goofy. It's it's rounded like it's not like it could have been a space portal like leeming cube but no it's this. It's like an artery or something which immediately puts. It's you more on edge than you. Already are that sh- ace through malkovich's subconscious at one point where lobbyists chasing maxine right out of eternal sunshine later yeah yeah but even the way the the whole screen will shift as they move say from a normal window in a house they go out that and and come down through an escape hatch on a bus the whole skin turns <hes> that's so great and you mentioned the attention to the art to you craig's art and i had totally forgotten. Maybe it just wasn't something. I was as a tune to looking for ninety nine point but the mary network here how how amazing it is rewarding on its own my goodness. I tried to look up as much as i could about <hes> who's doing some of this. It looks like it was designed by camilla portuguese teguise and a company called images in motion than the onset puppeteer. I did an interview with phillip huber. Who's doing the actual working with the puppets and the marionettes on the set and yeah. I think you know in the screenplay it is maybe something of a joke to have craig be a puppeteer. It's easy to laugh at a guy in the modern age age trying to to get artistic credibility by being puppeteer but you can tell as you said that the movie has great respect for the art and those are amazing expressive recive sequences the film opens with that dance of despair which is again a humorous way to project just how overwrought pretentious craig really is about out himself and his state but at the same time think about the movements that that marionette is doing and you've never seen and there's some camera chicory. I read as well going on there but you've never the scene work like that before it. It is really amazing. So basically you know in making sure that the marionnettes were crucial part of the film. I think jones movies with with kaufman though they're all about ideas he does put that skin on them. He sure makes some things we can see. Touch turns the ideas into cinema basically and he does a right here at the star and just manages is the tone where there are moments that almost acknowledge the complete absurdity of what we're seeing we get it in some of the pauses we get it when craig cusak goes goes to that job interview and mary kay place forests right with that speech impediment welcome to leicester corp. How may we meet your filing needs. <hes> my name's craig switzerland interviews dr lester. Please have a seat mr whereas schwartz schwartz. I'm sorry yeah. I have no idea what you're saying to me right now. I mean schwartz warts. We get that sense through craig that he's a little bit stunned by this whole thing but that's balanced with the idea that he doesn't really question seven and a half four thing he he takes things at face value in a way that allow for us to take at face value how crazy this movie really is so you're right. We really have to great debuts here by both kaufman as a writer and jones as a direct and i should mention do cusak though he does pushed aside by the narrative really enjoyed his performances beginning in the seven and a half floor made me think of this even when he's not on that floor the the point of that i think is to make everyone hunched so that they look like they move like puppets marionettes when they're kind of angled over to get through it. <music> cusak has that even before he gets he does your floor. He's kind of like a guy always hunted limb hanging and so you know when he makes the mary net of himself himself. It's a very very easy one to one visual kit is being john. Malkovich is currently available to rent on demand on most platforms and just go to your local public library. Try one hundred down on that seven and a half floor. I'm sure it's there if you've seen the movie and agree or disagree with our takes you can email us feedback at film spotting dot net a reminder that if you would like to hear more of our nine from ninety nine discussions filled number four or five <hes> five maybe six cents the matrix this the blair witch project like this four okay okay so were just about halfway through our nine from ninety nine series you can find that full lineup up and the past conversations at phil spotting dot net slash nine from ninety nine. I did bring some puppets massacre theater atom offset. The listeners won't care but but i think we'll have fun. We're gonna play mask theater. When we come back plus the scarlet empress with marlena the great as catherine the great. 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That's graham early dot com slash film spotting for twenty percent off your grammar lee premium account. I thought you were gonna same pronunciation but you were even meaner twenty seven years because i <music>. It's actually only been two years pennywise. You're listening to film spotting. That's from the trailer for it. Chapter two thousand seventeen chapter after one according to my notes josh is the highest grossing horror film ever and the highest grossing r rated horror film and looking back at our star ratings at least over on letterbox. We did kind of like this movie. Yeah i had <hes>. I don't know it says about the movie but i had to look up. My review review actually see what i wrote about. It and i do remember now. It gets a little wearin and it's a long film and if i don't concern about this next one really excited about the cast set twenty seven years later the kids are now played by jessica chastain james mcevoy bill hader and others <hes> but this is even longer the running time under on this almost three hours that right something like that. It's guess it's like one hundred sixty nine minutes or something so we'll see that's for the better or the worse we will see it opens friday the sixth six th of september here in the states next week on the show we will review it chapter two and we will give you our fall movie preview in the form of as usually do our top five questions about the fall movie season. If you have a question of your own we'd love to hear it be back. At film spotting dot net you can also leave us a voicemail l. Three one two two six four zero seven four four you can share those comments on social media as well over at film spotting or at larson on film. Our website film spotting dot net is where our local chicago listeners can find run of engagement pass sometimes or advanced screening passes and we we do have some passengers to give away for raise hell the life and times of molly ivins and i'll admit molly ivins is a name and a face that is instantly instantly recognisable to me and yet i still had to look up what her exact occupation was of course newspaper columnist and author. She's a media if firebrand familiar with her but obviously not too intimate with her work and it sounds like i would be a good candidate to watch this documentary raise hell which does does open on september thirteenth here in chicago and it screens in advance on september ninth. If you'd like to go see that documentary in advance for free just go to film spotting dot net slash events to enter. I wanted to throw in a really quick golden brick nomination here adam. I think we've got maybe five or six titles in the mix and the film i want to talk about is honey land which i went into thinking that i was going to see this anthropological documentary about a beekeeper. She's <hes> fifty five year old woman. I think in macedonia this deserted village just practicing beekeeping this tradition that's been around for. I don't know maybe millennia <hes> very simple trish very respectful of the bees and i'm watching this thing and it starts to become so compelling pelling as a narrative that i felt like i was watching one of those true false films from curious tommy or makhmalbaf or one of those. I really and masters that we we did a marathon on because things just they're just little clues. One of them is actually the shirt that the woman wears such a perfect gold that it evokes x._p.'s it evokes honey so well and she's wearing it all the time her name i should say <unk> murray tova and it just reeked of costume design then this amazing narrative develops already were kind of engrossed in the way she takes care of her aging ailing mother in this small single room home they share but then this his family arrives in this deserted town seven kids hundred fifty some cattle and they just bring chaos with them and the father of the family. He's named named hussein sam he asks her. How much do you get at the market for a jar of honey and right away. You know that things are going to spiral spiral downwards and the amazing thing about this movie. It's co directed by two filmmakers tamra khattab scott and knew amir stephan off the amazing thing is that they at once localized this so it seems like it's a very small story just happening with these people but then as things spiral downward it carries echoes of the dangers injures of like global capitalism globalization it also has biblical echoes of the fall how you see what is sort of paradise come undone and sure enough after watching it. I went to the website and here's how they describe it on the movies website. It's the debut feature from documentarian lebow stefan off and tamra tasca uh-huh shot over three years by skeleton crew committed to an intimate collaboration between filmmakers and subject that sounds like some of those iranian films for sure yeah and and so i'm still not exactly sure what quote unquote true what's quote unquote false but like with those films it doesn't matter it doesn't matter and the glory of this movie is getting lost in the narrative that's so rich in detail and some of the imagery which is absolutely gorgeous the way again she is <hes> in that golden shirt shirt against this kind of barren landscape. These beautiful landscape shots so yeah. I thought it would be an interesting documentary. It's an astounding story and because as i think of that distinctive quality of it the way it blurs those lines <hes> does qualify as a golden brick and also it's the debut for both of those filmmakers l. maker in terms of a feature so it's called honey land. It did open at the music box here in chicago. A few weeks ago i know last week it had made its way to the willamette theater outside side of chicago so limited release. Hopefully if you're listening you can see it and maybe the art house near your town and then eventually will of course make its way to d._v._d. D._v._d. or streaming yeah we will put more information about that film over at our website films spotting dot net. I believe film spotting dot net slash bricks or just click on lists at the top of the page. Navigate your way there. That's where we do house all of our golden brick contenders so far this year earlier this week josh on our sister stor show the next picture show podcast they released part one of their new carrying the new documentary american factory about chinese own factory and rustbelt ohio and barbara couples great nineteen seventy six harlan county usa more information about that is at next picture show dot org or wherever you get your podcast now if you recall last week on the show i said i didn't know anything about this movie when we were teasing this pairing and literally the next day all sorts of dialogue about popping popping up in my twitter timeline and different reviews. I think it was the day it was released on netflix. So it is a movie. I caught up with over the weekend and i'll be curious to see whether or not our colleagues i can change my mind on it a little bit because certainly a well meaning documentary and about a fascinating topic that really warrants some more wrestling. It's about globalism even by the end of it becomes about machines taking over for the workers in this plant in about this culture clash between the chinese and these blue collar workers and it certainly doing a lot of the same work or trying to shed a light on a lot of the same topics that barbara coppel was trying to do back in nineteen seventy six with hartland county u._s._a. But the real trick of that film look couple somehow managed to do is what american factory for me didn't pull off josh rush which is she didn't focus on any one individual or even a handful of families. She tells the story of this coal miners strike in the early seventies from the perspective of of an objective viewer who comes in and follows different threads even shows what the company's perspective is on this and we meet all all sorts of different families and people involved but it feels so much more intimate and light you are being exposed to being put right in those homes with the people people who this strike is most affecting and american factory wants to be a little bit more big picture and sprawling and it takes us to china china and it takes us on the private plane and in the backs of the cars with the chairman of the company the chinese chairman of the company and it takes us to you a handful of rotating people that all work for the factory americans who work for the factory and by the end of it. I didn't feel attached to any of them. Nor did i feel feel like i had as much insight into their lives and the struggle as i want so i was a little bit disappointed in american factory but available on netflix a relatively easy quick watch and and certainly again about a topic that deserves more consideration and it's having a huge moment i had only vaguely heard of it as well and then just today. I had three people at work mentioned that they had watched it or we're going to watch it so yeah. It's definitely caught. People's attention should make for a good show at next picture show and nowhere we're in there. Did i mention the obamas even though they are responsible for the film on some level at least reduce something like production company i would say more if if i understood more about what their exact involvement was but you really can't read anything or see anything on the internet about this film without the obamas names being attached to it and i think that's definitely only helped in terms of raising its for sure the current films fighting poll looks ahead to next week's fall movie preview which film playing at september's toronto film vest. Are you most looking looking forward to. We gave you a bunch of options. Josh the mr rogers bio pic a beautiful day in the neighborhood takeaway. T._d.'s joe joe rabbit walking phoenix in joker joker ryan johnson's knives out or the lighthouse which is from the witch director robert eggers. No bombecks marriage story bong jun. Ho's palmdale are winning parasite. Another can stand out selene scam portrait of a lady on fire steven soderbergh's laundromat and uncut gems from the safdie brothers. We of course also gave the option of other so maybe you read ahead and this little game won't be any fun but josh which of those movies would you have predicted or as you sit right now. Are you predicting our listeners are voting for the most with our listeners. I would go with knives out or maybe the baumbach. I think those are both reasonable guesses and yet somehow the lighthouse robert acres follow up to which is in the lead. That's respectable. I like that eating out our picks joker occur and knives out yeah i. I don't think i mentioned that one when i was trying to decide last time but i can see that absolutely you were a big fan of the witch yeah. It's a big fan out of it but i don't like to spend too much time thinking about it. I got it. We'll see if the lighthouse is a similar type of film bong. Jun host parasite which we're both excited to see is pulling near the top bob as well. You can vote now at spotting dot net. If you leave a comment please do let us know where you're listening from. It is time for massacre theater the part of the show where we perform on the scene and you get a chance at winning a film spotting t-shirt a couple of weeks back adamant. I massacre this scene. Have you been in touch with yeah. I i wouldn't they own waited outside the hospital last week. I just see you broke didn't read my letter had been allowed to visit you had they let me every day i would have been there every day we do we have rests on it had library three and a half years ago that i'm not sure that was here nightly and james mcevoy capturing just a little bit of the long unit. I think you and i really brought to that scene. From i'm twenty tens atonement christopher hampton wrote the screenplay which was adapted from the ian mcewan novel the movie directed by joe right that massacre was part of a show where we reviewed jennifer kesse the nightingale we also had the second film in our dietrich von sternberg marathon nineteen thirty two's morocco. What is atonement have have to do with any of that well. Let's see what listeners came up with. Dave bombing in appleton wisconsin wrote in one of the main characters brian. He becomes a nurse over the course of the film florence. Nightingale is usually considered the founder of modern nursing. The focus of this episode of film spotting was the new film the nightingale hey hey i got nothing else says sorry yeah. No that wasn't it. Rory done said connections include a film about a woman finding her way in the world with little regard to what damage she does along the way also both atonement and the nightingale our second kim films from british directors that are follow ups to critically acclaimed debut is kent british or she australian great question josh you will use use google while i read our next comment from laura ellis in san miguel de linde mexico. I guess the connection is a male protagonist going to war. Though gary cooper's french foreign legion was trying to put down an insurrection in morocco and james mcevoy was going to brussels early in world war two of course the great dunkirk seen in atonement. I'm i'm sorry rory from the quick. Googling i do can't does appear to be australian. Okay well critically acclaimed debut second films close enough rory but none of that was really what we were thinking sam producer just going with the most basic connection of josef von sternberg morocco and a toilet both tragic love stories more or less josh shirt it's all we needed so adam from roden with this little seen himself. He's from brunswick maine. Why don't you go ahead and in play the combined role of adamant josh and rebecca. I'll play adamant from josh you start. Are you ready okay. Let's try and seeing no clue clue could be anything. It's a movie. I adore atonement okay so you really should have played us yeah. You're right because it was wine. It was me saying i tried you know what i tried to direct that it went badly bear with me here but adams said basically as soon as he heard me say it's a movie i adore. He knew it was a tone. I'm and he definitely was not alone. In deletes from new orleans louisiana says what gave it away was the combination of the british accents. If that's what you want to call it an atom saying that anyone who gets it right will be his friend for life and no one else actually cares about this film as much as atom started listening to the show a few months ago and have been rolling through the archives sense. You guys keep up the great work a p._s. For the love of god someone please michael phillips to rewatch no country for old men and while you're advocate josh to fix his star rating of the big lebowski on letterman here here hear wpro how with both crush ian but i don't even know star rating is don't sweat. Oh my goodness longtime listener david l williams in bellefonte pennsylvania says the film is atonement the gripping story of a little girl who keeps the same hairstyle over sixty years spoilers. I've seen this film once when it came and why am i still annoyed by this aspect of it. 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Thanks so much to you as well love hearing from people josh who love not only only the golden bricks beloved the marathon absolutely ryan. How are you this morning. Highness romantic match and how is excellencies very distress because you've been avoiding him for eternity haven't been inviting you have i've tried again again and again to see with older news made it impossible marlene dietrich there with not charlton heston the john lodge in nineteen thirty four's the scarlet empress the chechen heston who i guess maybe looks like omar sharif sounds like heston exactly yeah. The fourth and final film are dietrich josef von sternberg marathon fon a quick synopsis here dietrich is princess so phya frederica of germany later catherine the great of russia. She becomes engaged to sam jaffe grand grand duke peter. He's heir to the russian. Are you laughing. Just well peter's a bit of a dummy. Let's go with that so dietrich's catherine katherine takes many lovers including lodges count alexei and when peter does assume the throne catherine spoilers plans a coup to remove him from power power this film the scarlet empress was one of the last mainstream hollywood films to get released before the hays code was strictly enforced hence the memorable montage of topless women and being tortured and burnt at the stake. This happens in this film didn't expect that as the family settled down for thirty four hundred eleven bert glennon was the dp taking over over four league arms who shot morocco and was an oscar winner for the lesson we discussed shanghai express glennon did also shoot von sternberg blonde venus in thirty two travis baton back again on costume design duty. Josh nathaniel myers the professor helping us with our marathons as always. He's also back on setup duty. Hi guys the first three films in this marathon have largely been box office and critical successes garnering multiple award nominations in even in the case of shanghai in high express becoming the top grossing film of its year nineteen thirty four is scarlet empress. However was a box office failure and josh adam. I think i might commiserate with the film going audience of nine hundred thirty four now to be fair. I know the film has in the years since undergone considerable reevaluation relation it's been embraced by some for its campus citizen and celebrated by others for its stylistic grandeur and for its radical feminism but while i do think i can can appreciate those perspectives. If i'm being completely honest. I just had a really difficult time getting on this film's wavelength partly to blame. I think is what was for the film's alienating sense of frivolity not mind you in those places where the film finds humor in the perverse and sadomasochistic which honestly i found gleefully bold and sadistic but perhaps in its smaller bits of farce. It's comedy of missing wigs and sceptres more problematic for me though was there. I say it dietrich who i just don't think can sell the innocent wide eyed character of the first to this film. Now i know that to expect dramatic dramatic range from dietrich is miss the point that's not who she is as a performer nevertheless the film seems to want us to take her plight at least a little seriously as exhibited for example sample in the extended close ups of despairing face during the wedding ceremony and i'm just not sure she has the chops to embody the full breadth of her emotional journey at the very least. I'll just say that i was hit with an overwhelming sense of relief when our ten minutes into the film dietrich was finally allowed to be dietrich in fact admittedly the last third of the film did a lot to redeem what had come before again. That's not to say that there aren't things to admire beforehand such as those wild torture scenes to begin the film as well as the oppressive passive evocative meson sin with face palming gargoyles but it's really only when dietrich is in the throes of retribution of power grab with their candlelit efface fetish screens her tongue twirling straw to ensure that alexi knows exactly what he's missing out on and her self-assured visage crowned by a wife for a hat that for me. The movie reached the heights of the other three films of this marathon so guys having watched the scarlet empress. Did you see in it. Perhaps it's the nineteen thirty four audience did the beginning of the end for dietrich von star burke or did you away instead with the same kind of infectious actions enthusiasm you might find in say a sand van hall grin on twitter because frankly that's the level of elation. I would like to have for this film. Thanks thanks guys yeah for sam. These two can do no wrong apparently and i don't. I don't want to say that they did do wrong in the scarlet empress. I think it's an experiment. A wild eld experiment yet succeeds in some ways and fails in others is interesting that nathaniel puts it in the context of you know was. Was this the beginning of the end for for them. It's the end for us so we're not really gonna see where things went but that can make sense if you do see this as an i think it does in a few moments in its weaker moments start to approach self parody for both of them where the things that we've been lauding for a couple of films now in appreciating are just turned up one degree just just one notch only one god yeah i think so i think when you look back at some of these other films you could. I don't think either of us have used the word camp yet now. <hes> you know we try to take into consideration the context of the time and all those sorts of things but i could see someone looking at all of their films and using that label here. I think it it gets there now intentionally on their part. I don't know i think you know they've been pushing boundaries in all of these films in terms of gender in terms of the aesthetics and i think this is a case where they do push those those boundaries so far that they go over the top in certain sequences. There's <hes> a lot of fun to be had there. There's some delightful moments in it and a lot of artistry artistry still to admire which will probably get to but i do think as a whole it's not a piece certainly with what they've done before and and it reveals i would say as nathaniel suggested some limitations on dietrich says part. Yes and i think it also reveals how von sternberg can give himself over too much to this aesthetic to the point where it's it's not an in service of the other things that are going on. It's is almost just for its own. Sake starts drown out some of the rest of the film yet. It's been one of the questions we've asked at the very beginning of the marathon whether or not when everything goes was right is it about what dietrich is doing as an actress or is it about what von sternberg is doing with dietrich as a director and i suppose when things go wrong and i wouldn't say this goes that wrong either you're going to hear me tried to defend this film in a moment but it's definitely nowhere near the achievement that shanghai expresses i'd even say that the blue angel is but when dietrich isn't very good in that first third of this film and she really isn't nathaniel commented on her being being this wide eyed innocent and she really is wide eyed literally throughout most of the first part of this film. She's not particularly a good in those scenes and is it is her fault. Is it a limitation of her as an actress or do we blame von sternberg for allowing her to do it for putting her in a position and where she had to do it and she can't be your best and we've been talking about collaborators. Even the costumes are there. I mean brandon's costumes. They make a comeback in this film to because early on she's is just loaded like a dow and of course its purpose volts to make her look younger but gets lost in all of the releases and ruffles and it just it doesn't work and yeah. I think i understand why she might want to stretch or try something different. Maybe she wanted to toy with audience expectations at this point in their paren- you could at the time. Maybe you could totally get it and maybe you'd want. Maybe you'd say finally we're not getting the same sort of thing but the other half of that is is. You've got to be able to pull it off yeah. I actually wrote down notes nathaniel mentioned that he didn't feel like she got to be dietrich until the last third of the film and i wrote in my notes dietrich doesn't show up until the forty forty two minute mark and then i realized after that that that was kind of wishful thinking that it's still a sending her down a path. That isn't really the dietrich. We've seen in the other films so so far in this marathon and then i added the note later. Actually she may not show up until the hour eleven mark. I think that's really where we finally see her. It's a line in particular when she says is to the religious figure. I remember what his exact title is but i think she says to him. I think i have weapons that are far more powerful than any political machine and that's where you really feel the great marlene dietrich come out but it's in a scene that appeared on its surface to be very un dietrich like where i did. I would say get on the right wave link with this movie. It's in the stable where all she differ on but hear me out go royal because i'm ultimately justifying it in retrospect. It's not so much the enjoyment of it in the moment okay. I is a case where dietrich's so fi is trying to sort of be seductive with john lodge the way she puts the hey and her mouth and she falls backwards so clumsily in the hey <unk> tumbles on top of her. It's so awkward and absurd nothing remotely sensual about it and honestly not even that funny either but that's where i realized and you use the p. Were josh. You said that maybe it veers into self parody. I'm giving von sternberg and dietrich. Both the benefit of the doubt that this is absolutely parody. That's part of the experiment of this film that they are parroting to an extent the dietrich persona but also this isn't a historical drama like this movies being billed as at all all this is a parody of historical dramas and the self seriousness of them and that's when it clicked for me that so much of what seemed just kind find a silly in was easily dismissable and was excessive before it actually became quite funny to me. I think about all the scenes throughout the film of those preposterously posthumously large doors right you think about the sets on these auricle dramas are always ornate and he says okay. I'm gonna show you ornate ornate. I'm gonna make these doors fifty two hundred pounds each and the people can barely even push them open those really kind of grotesque and overwhelming production design elements like those creatures that they sit in and all those monstrous statue there on them they really are the shot early in the film of salmon ever just laughing about this today it's early in the film when john lodge count alexis shows up and she's now the young girl and she clearly doesn't know a whole lot about about men and he so stunning and rural that when she said off to bed she closes the door but can't stop looking at him and she closes. It's so slowly that it really does become hilarious and i think it's intentionally hilarious that also there's this little trick there that von sternberg somehow pulls off which is as she's is closing the door ever so slowly in theory. We're seeing less of her but the way it's lit. She's actually getting brighter in the frame so we're seeing less of her and more of her at exactly exactly the same time how 'bout later align like when that religious figure is collecting things for the poor and he says to the emperor the crazy you imbecile like emperor. What do you have to give and he slaps him and he says that was for me. Would you have for the poor. You know there are lines like that are clearly meant to be comedic and that's when you can only finally start to at all justify. Sam jaffe is performance or really so many the the performances in the film pause there because go spend suppertime on sam jaffe performance <hes> yes this is this is absolutely parody of genre and <hes> but there are the two distinctions. There is a successful one in moments. I think you've found it more successful than -taining. I would say that the the parody of the damsel in distress stable seen doesn't work because dietrich is not a comedian of that note you're right and so what's what's kind kind of sad but what's too bad about it is that gestures are one of her great weapons and here every gesture is wrong yeah she's hanging a rope is hanging stable and she grabs it and kind of sways back and forth that i'll give you she's trying to be more coquettish here than she was earlier in the film but it's this weird combination of shy and the dietrich we know and it just every movement from chewing on the hay only only bad. It's just not fun. You don't think this is honestly mel brooks before mel brocades so you know here's i think that moments an exact example of that but here's the point there's there's one thing to to parody the genre which they're doing semi successfully. I don't think they're intentionally parodying their own personas or styles because if they were doing that they wouldn't bother with this naive dietrich at the beginning and once she does become dietrich. There's a weird middle section as she's transforming and the camera or lingers on her close up so long that you do start to wonder like is he playing a joke on us here because long close ups have always been a thing of theirs but these are the longest longest ever is is that self parody but then knowing the end she transitions as we've said to the ultimate dietrich so i just. I don't think think this is a work of self-aware parody. I do think that it has some moments azerbaijan parent well sure i think again maybe mostly a semantic mandic disagreement here but i think they're flickers of self awareness of self parody. I think that mostly the fun von sternberg is having its him having the fun with this this genre and with viewers and their expectations of not just marlene dietrich but the type of actress and the type of performance of would be given in a drama of this nature and this character would be someone who is more regal and more refined and we see her be so clumsy and awkward in those moments that worked for me just just like watching how jammed the meson senators in so many of these shots like the wedding sequence where it is full of people and statues and robes and it's it's suffocating in a way that actually makes this wedding sequence and again. It's a key part of the story that she doesn't really wanna marry this loser but it becomes legitimately kind of terrifying rather than glamorous and anybody else watching this historical drama comes to see marlene dietrich in film with an elaborate wedding seek. They can't wait to watch anything else but we get sure yeah and that's that's another weird thing about this. Movie is yes. It sort of mel brooks you know john reid parody but it's also a horror n._f._l. Maybe it's you mentioned those scenes of you. Know the the topless women being tortured. There's like a caligula like element to our movie which i never expected and that brings in the camp factor as well but that i think unstirred globulin indulging in everything that production design is really disturbing. It's also fascinating to watch. You can't take your eyes away from it. The art director is hans dreier and those sculptures you mentioned they were made. They brought in a sculptor peter balbo sh to do these a lot of times. They're the basis of candelabras which are these withered melting creatures yeah and those chairs bears with the gargoyles hanging over them over the people sitting and then the gargoyles even have these bony fingers covering their own faces his leg. They're in distress and dismay the whole palace. You know it's not it's medieval. It's not everything is wood and stone. It feels like the cave and and that gives it again this air of a horror film now. What do we do about sam jaffe. The guy went on looking ed credits to have a long and varied career right did many other things does he do anything for the first forty five minutes of this film other than make light it is i as big as they can go smile rinse strangely and rotate his head from one shoulder to the other back and forth back and enforce and then finally when he offers something else in the latter section he just raves about like a power mad lunatic which is nowhere near like like the guy we saw before that's it's really something no it is and a lot of the performances we see it's really kind of a hodgepodge of different styles and they are all a little bit grotesque and over the top in their own ways and i think that it's fitting with the parody that we get but it doesn't necessarily mean that in the moment i took that much pleasure. You're watching sam jaffe. Do exactly what you said which is kind of give this very one note performance for pretty much the entire film. I think that the other struggle with this film home especially when you compare it to the other films we've seen in this marathon is he never finds away and i'll give you this that it may be another perfect example of von sternberg parodying the genre because the other element that successive is all the title cards. Oh yeah right so. Is that a case where the story needed or he. He felt like it truly needed all of that filling in the blanks or he almost said okay. We're used to having this narrative being laid out adding that's chapel karaoke and it's like well. I'm gonna give you one hundred fifty because the end. They're all longer than they need. That's where jaffe is described as a quote royal halfway royal half so there are a little jokes in there. There are so yeah definitely definitely what's the other joke where he says of her that dietrich's character catherine the great had managed to is it tamed the army or had done something to the army basically suggesting that she now has them under her control offers the innuendo oh and that she had slept with enough officers in the army to control them so you do get that innuendo in those todd but we are kind of always losing the rhythm some of this thing because we go from these crazy scenes of a parody to lots of title cards to them these elaborate visual sequences that are fun to watch on one level because they're fun number and they're kind of amazing but these wordless extended scenes like the wedding scene like that moment i do actually i really love at the post wedding dinner where the camera starts up on high in stays above everybody and actually starts i think just on the table table and a bunch of food spread out and then it's just this extended tracking shot of decadence right where it just goes right over hovers over the table will receive it's absurd everything about this film but especially that scene and what's on the table and the army and array of the people who populate that scene but that's just a kind of fun von strasbourg visual moment but it's conveying information and mood and atmosphere i would say there are other indulgences dolgin says and this is what i was referring to earlier where he doesn't hold himself back at all where there are long <hes> whether it's soldiers parading or other sequences is that start to feel in their length a little stiff when they're not conveying anything new or capturing anything new. I also wanna say you know back to a performance back to lodge raj actually as alexi you know maybe they were trying to parody what dietrich had done before threw him because he seems to be trying into out dietrich dietrich for the first half of the film when he's trying to seduce her <hes> as this innocent and he seems to be delivering the lines means the way she would deliver that a little bit of standing on hosing and let's just say he's no detroit well. He's dietrich but there may be more praised for john. Lodge coming in here in just a little bit joel mike good oh yeah. I have a defender here. Okay well. I <hes> i will be very eager to hear that. <hes> and i also have some praise for this movie that is going to come up in our awards awards. One thing i do think we do need to spend some time on though is how the movie does let her come into her own in some really thrilling ways when catherine essentially stages this cou. I'm an l. Save one of those for the awards but back to the costuming here. I love the detail. She's already kind of coming to our own. In these more elaborate it's gowns but for the coup itself she's wearing a white variation on the male soldiers uniform complete with one of those towering yeah ah for hats and she pulls it off course also this gender bending nah right to what the other times. We've seen her. Do something like this so that's that's probably she's taking control before that but that's when you get the full dietrich in the movie kind of comes to its client and even early in the film we get flashes of the dietrich von sternberg magic. We've talked a little bit in every one of these discussions throughout this marathon about moments where they're just perfectly in sync with each other. It's just like clockwork and we get one when i think alexei shows up and it starts on her being upstairs being called down and the camera starts with her up at that balcony in a coming out of her bedroom door follows her down the stairs really gracefully and then it cuts just as she's walking into the room and it follows her movement now going the other direction this overhead shot. It's just right in line with her movement the whole time and does not only manage to be a nice visual touch von sternberg but it adds this element of joy to what she seems to be feeling in this moment. She can't wait to go have this. This discovery and i think the camera movement really underscores that one of the thing i did want to bring up real quick. We touched on just briefly the infamous torture sequence and i was looking up some detail earlier. Today i think for the awards and i read something in one of the criterion essays about their collaboration. It wasn't about this film necessarily early in particular but the writer said something fascinating that i didn't necessarily pick up on the moment which is that torture sequence the moment that happens right before it is is a very young sophia. Young girl is in her bed and she's getting ready to go to bed in. Don't they say something to her abuser stories. She's told their stories right. It's these about the russians the russians and in the moment i took it more straightforward as this is a montage showing kind of a passage of the history of russia and these these these terrible leaders which it is doing that for us. It's filling in some of those lakes but it really is her imagination. Oh yeah this is the girl is the one imagining because then we cut to that's where she's about to be sung exactly yeah very very anti russia film. That's for sure well. Let's get to our awards closing out the marathon officially. We are calling them. The bow was we have five categories here. We are going to hand out our favourite. The performance our favorite non dietrich performance then we'll go our favorite marlene dietrich moment and our favorite von sternberg moment finally we we will say what we felt was the best picture of the marathon our friend nathaniel playing along with the awards as well. Why don't we go ahead then. Let him give out the first boa. Even though shanghai express is undoubtedly dietrich's best vehicle and the blue angel gets points for first impressions. I'm going to go with her performance. It's in morocco even if her character doesn't quite live up to dietrich's full potential her best moments are arguably unmatched. I'm thinking not only ever infamous performance on on lamar mort in top hat entails but also the performance. What am i bid for. My apple follows were apple. Boa extremely suggestive lyrics are her weapons of choice race and i also love the scene at the you've mentioned on a couple occasions where she enters into a wild trance-like state during her engagement party so morocco yeah yeah we'll allow that though i'm disappointed only in nathaniel that he managed to praise marlene dietrich performance in morocco without ever saying he means usually yeah but he did give us a little french so hey did credit him with that all right bye best dietrich performance is shanghai lily in shanghai express. I mean in the context of our marathon. At least we did skip dishonored which i think immediately precedes shanghai experts logically but for us for me. This felt like the the performance where dietrich became marlene dietrich. It's cemented her chemistry with the camera. Essentially from this point on making her co-stars superfluous it's also the perfect distillation of the persona that's enticing but aloof passionate aboard somehow all that at the same time she gets to show real range here as well. I talked about that. Anger over anime wong's courtesan being dragged into chang's room against her. Will she shows a different. I fire there than her usual smolder and also in this movie in this performance. She hits her marks given to her by von sternberg perfectly that climactic moment i think we talked about it a little bit where she turns out the light in her room disappears in the darkness for just an instant and then steps into that small circle of light that von sternberg berg has waiting for her looking up so it'll eliminate her face. When i wrote about taylor's josh we might get to that. Oh okay then. I'll i'll say how i describe described it. When we get to it later yeah shanghai shanghai express okay well. We agree completely on shanghai. Lily shanghai express being the best dietrich performance you you touched on it. The contradiction she inhabits throughout this film. It's her most hardened and the most helpless we see dietrich. It's for most kind of come hither and her most hostile. It's maybe her most grounded but also her most other worldly. When shanghai lily shows up in the way she walks through that train she he is like from another planet compared to everyone else in this film so i'm with you on shanghai lily that brings us to our best non dietrich performance performance we go to nathaniel myers the characters in these films largely orbit around dietrich and that's especially the case for all her male counterparts gary cooper a clear exception of course. I think you could legitimately make a case that emil jennings's professor emmanuel rot in the blue angel is maybe the exception that proves the rule nevertheless the less it is with a female counterpart my vote finally lands amy mae wong as hugh fay in shanghai express vengeance seeking dragon lady stereotype type of side her character strongly compliments dietrich's and wong performer with the strength that maybe he doesn't quite out captivate dietrich but nonetheless force all all its own agreed choice there from nathaniel one. I would bet my lunch money. Josh you are going to go with as well indeed. That's my choice. Can you imagine being another woman and trying to make your presence felt in dietrich picture. Okay this is a good point just the challenge of that and then the virtue of you know oh not only making that mark but doing as beautifully as wong does in just a few scenes <hes> there's just a real fullness to every moment she he has and it gets really amplified after she is raped by the rebel leader by chang who has taken this train hostage she conveys the real trauma including a shocking scene that <hes> i still can't believe the movie paused to include where it's implied that she considered suicide and lily is there to to stop her and then later that rav vengeful anger i mean i i saw it as legit. I think nathaniel right to point out that it did exist as a part of a a stereotype but still i thought as very legit in the performance we we discussed you know when we review jennifer the nightingale. We talked a little bit about how <hes> how rape scenes are handled in film. I think this is an interesting counterpoint in a lotta ways to the nightingale this movie from thirty two we also talked about in jelica jay bastions of vulture piece pointing out that a lot of older films will handle these sorts of scenes by alluding to them in ways and in some instances is carry more power or effectiveness here. It's not explicit at all but thanks to wong's performance. I do think the enormity of the violation is really. I felt so a complete surprise for me. Not something i would have expected coming into this marathon. <hes> i think that daniels right the jennings is great as well. He almost has lead needs so that's that's a really good choice to make but for me it is anna may wong and shanghai express yet. There is undoubtedly presence about her that she completely holds when she's sharing a frame with dietrich now in his explanation they're nathaniel used the german to give the character name of the man who plays opposite marlon directing the blue angel but he called him jennings. I'm gonna call him a million things. I'm gonna go with the more german okay. There did think about him him for this. Because i really did appreciate the foolish bluster he brings to that character as big and broad as it is in the blue angel. I thought about adult menu as la bessieres in morocco in addition to who fe i like you gene palate as sam salt in shanghai express and clive brook as the love interest dakario carvey related work for me as well josh. I'm going with your guy. I'm going with count alexa. Favorite non dietrich performance loved him loved john lodge in this film and i think the reason why is because he works either way you wanna look at the film. He works in terms of parody or he works. If you just transported him into the more straightforward historical drama version of this film and from the moment he walks on screen. Frankly i was with them as dietrich doc is he's a little bit scary and he's definitely seductive and he's maybe seductive because he's actually a little bit scary so that's my guy. I can't believe it love him with me by the way he's possibly the most comedic because his parody if if sam jaffe is doing doing parody it's not working whereas lodge yes. I actually did laugh at that's if that's enough to make the best non dietrich performance ornaments i think for me. I got stuck famous subtlety that you're giving him. Oh my goodness. Are you kidding. No not did you bring your part of grand you. I'm sorry i did not. Would you like them to be handsome. He would like them to be better looking than all other men and tall and gracious can't well. He has all that and more the handsome man in the brushing tall and formed like a greek god of model and fashion department which all over strive to follow while you we get to see him is is like the blue sky a hey hair. The color of ebony is stronger than a team of oxen ski plus because of his desire to receive you and you can also so read and write all for me. I got stuck on the fact that he is just trying to dietrich. I it's it's like i've got her part. She's playing this other part in this movie. I'm gonna go with her. I'm going to be and as i said he's not true. There's nobody else does. Nobody is even even try. John also a presence on screen just just the way they both wear those for hats. I mean she's there to okay well. Let's see if we again agree on the best marlena dietrich moments so many to choose from in this marathon. This is nathaniel choice in shanghai express express during a conversation about regrets between dietrich's shanghai. Lily clive brooks doc dietrich takes his hat in places it at an angle on her head she moves in front of him turns and with her mona. Lisa smart declares only one thing i wouldn't have done what i wouldn't have above in my hand and at the precise moment. She says the word bobbed. She flicks the brim of her hat. It's a small moment one that goes her hat tip from morocco and one that is charged with a coffin seductive gender fluid energy of her stardom. It's my best dietrich moment of a crowded bunch a gesture there air from nathaniel myers adjuster in a smirk <hes> and my moment combines both maybe it's the smirk that i really like about this here. I'm going need to come to the defense of the scarlet empress. Believe it or not my top two contenders for this category. They come from the two films. I like the both probably liked him. The least and that's where she stares stares down the crowd wearing the tux top hat morongo. That's my runner up by. Pick is smirking the grand duke and his mistress in the scarlet. Let empress and i have to credit debbie with this. One as i said we were watching as a family and it was her suggestion and it's true when she does this. We were all admirably giggling blaine at the moment at adjust the bravura she brings to this. It comes after the duke. Geoff duke has laid out his plans that after his aunt dies takes the throne. He's going to do away with dietrich katharine. He's gonna install his mistress on the throne and you know this is jeffrey has shifted here into the madman so he's a little more of a threat at this point. He's got the power. It's a mortal threat. It's a real threat so it's not that he's this half which she doesn't have to take seriously in the way. The power structure is at this point in the film. It's a real threat. What does she do stairs that slight smile yeah and she'll longest exit evolve the longest exit. She just coldly leaves the room. Then another gesture stops. I forget if she actually to get out of the room has to turn yeah or if she wants us to to do this. Basically something requires her to lose her gaze but she picks it up again before leaving the door she just looks at a begun and basically she's deflecting his threat back to him times ten without saying well i've got another gays for my choice and it goes back to morocco nathaniel nathaniel definitely on the right track picking not just a dietrich moment but a moment only dietrich could offer something that in the moment seems inspired. Maybe even a a little bit odd comes off as a little bit spontaneous even perhaps also thinking about these awards and the time capsule factor if you will if someone one was coming from the future and trying to get a sense of dietrich and von sternberg from this marathon specifically dietrich here using our awards as a guide and what would it tell them and the i._t. Nagasaki certainly the end rajini of dietrich is established in morocco and i wanted to give a nod to that and and my moments connected to what is probably her most iconic moment that kiss but it's not the kiss itself nor is it the hat flip afterward which i do love in which nathaniel n._f._l. Rightfully pointed out. She's paying homage to i think in shanghai express her but it's before the kiss where she comes around the table table and she takes the drink which she's wearing a man's clothes. She downs the drink in one gulp just like a man and she starts. It's to walk away and then just like a man might she sees something she likes the woman at the table madame scissor and she lingers and she stares at her and she just looks her up and down and it's only a few seconds but it feels like it's a lot longer and in that moment that's sizing up of madams. Are you get the mystery of dietrich. You get this kind of sense of danger. The woman can only only laugh at it because you so kind of unnerved by it but then just like a man dietrich. She takes exactly what she wants. She first does that little little magic trick or whatever with the flower behind her head and she says can i have this so she's very polite there and saying can i have this flour and when the woman says yes she takes takes it and then she just goes after the kiss she doesn't ask for permission for the kiss she just takes it and had flick really is great though that follows it because it's kind of this disarming. I just did something really provocative. Oh what me kind of moment were then. She bryce saunters off that whole sequence really is prime dietrich eric but especially i think just that pause which we've talked about is something unique to dietrich and your pick as well holding the frame <hes> not having to do you much at all now being on frame. I don't know how many actors pause as long as her hold the frame as long as she does so that's my best dietrich moment that brings us to our best von sternberg moment. Is it possible that one of us is going to dare to pick on sternberg moment. That doesn't involve marlene dietrich. We will see starting with the guys. I'm hoping one of you picks up the slack by mentioning some amazing tracking shot or some prolonged dissolve love or some moment of elaborately designed as on san because really how can you even choose for me somewhat arbitrarily and not all that originally i have to go with a moment of light and shadow that of von sternberg smu's marlene dietrich in the train car toward the end of shanghai express as she stares upward upward cigarette in hand cloaked in darkness except for one beam of light which is creating that distinct shadow of butterfly under her nose. It's a moment almost ost apart from the rest of the story a moment of transcendent artifice which is how i might generally characterized von sternberg aesthetic see josh. Why did you have to spoil. Nathaniel thunder. Sorry had laid out there and i'm afraid this really is the right answer despite there being so many different moments to choose from this existential crisis that we get from lily in the train car is the standout moment maybe the entire marathon for me and it was tough because i certainly considered sittard choosing a moment deliberately. Were dietrich isn't the focus. She already got her category. We just shared that winner. Let's make it more about him than it is about her or as nathaniel eluded. Do we pick a dissolve or a tracking shot or some river a moment. We got so many of them to consider from this marathon versus. What is a stationary close up now that it's not a bravura moment with the way he uses light and shadow it definitely is but she would go with something a little more active or org ostentatious but at the end of the day. I think marathon has proven to us. That von stauffenberg was all about dietrich. His best work doc is when he is showcasing her and as we touched on during our discussion of the film last week those trembling hands really stood out to me and made an impression and all of those contradiction she is at her most vulnerable in that moment and yet her most alluring. I would say yeah at what i wrote about shanghai express i. I called it a career and a close up. I i mean it. Just it does capture everything. It's absolutely wonderful and one of the reasons. I did have that as her best performance i tried. I tried to split the difference for this category. Sorry <hes> face that choice as well. Do i choose something that focuses on her. Do i go with something that she's not even on the screen. I decided to go right down the middle with with an insert shot of her hands so it's it's not entirely her but she is definitely there and this does come from shanghai express. It's when lily is attempting to pray for doc. Who's being held hostage at this point and this shot just involves her hands fund stirred chooses to basically capture the intensity of this moment with one close up there lit so they're they're glowing in what his otherwise darkness they're trying to close in prayer but just not being able to completely class a little bit of traveling going on here as well and i just think i think it's the reason i chose it for my von. Sternberg moment is because it's everything we need to know via an image <hes> and this being sternberg. It's a melodramatic image. The importance of of the action we understand lillies conflicted emotions about it. We understand and we see both the bright hope that's involved but also the darkness surrounding it. That's it's going to just snuff that. Hope out at any moment too so it's it's <hes> maybe a minute choice for this. It's not quite as ostentatious and some of the more or elaborate sequences that he did with tracking shots or dissolves but i do like the specificity of it and i also like you know back to the scarlet empress that it calls back to this. I think a very different context. Though do you remember. This is one moment where i feel like okay now. She's coming into her own when she seduces the guard in the garden garden yet when she realizes i've got i've got to get pregnant. If that's her power play. It's not going to happen from the halfway so why not this. <hes> you know guard who's almost as handsome as john lodge right that whole thing is captured. She puts her arms around his neck. Yeah we see her hands or essentially see them committing the act by by how her hands and react so it's a it's a motif of on sternberg so i think it works says the best funster moment the best part of that exchange with the guard out in the night is the payoff later of the joke when he doesn't recognize her as she's now the empress and she describes him as surely very efficient yeah from how it was depicted it was it was a fish. Maybe a little more del though he only needed one attempt yeah that's true good. She was after her. She got from that guard. Okay best picture probably not much of a surprise here and yet we will let nathaniel do the honors call it peak dietrich call call it peaked dietrich and peak von sternberg. Whatever side you choose eyelid be surprised if we didn't all agree. Shanghai express is the best film of this marathon. Thanks guys nathaniel as he so often is is absolutely correct about shanghai express being the best film in this marathon. If you could only watch watch one of these four movies to get the best sense of who both of them were as artist. Someone gave me that challenge. It would be a very quick answer to say just go to shanghai express yeah. That's where i would point people to. I think of the four films we've seen at least it's the one where everything between dietrich von sternberg is clicking perfectly. He i knows how to best highlight the rare bird quality that she offers and she knows how to honor the cure skoro tableau devised you know oh she she's doing them justice as well. She's she's serving that now beyond the two of them though i think this movie also has a plot that's full of international l. Intrigue there are strong supporting players here and really we've touched on many times but probably the best costume design in the marathon from travis banton canton that <hes> that black outfit she has at the beginning probably inspired angelina jolie's whole look in melissa sent and i'm sorry as great as the costume designers in melissa cintas. It's <hes> dietrich word better. Let's say dietrich word better so yeah if you haven't been able to play along on this marathon or have jumped in yet and think i've only got time for one of these films shanghai expressway chacao well. We think nathaniel once again for his amazing contributions to marathon. We hope a few of you out. There have followed along with the marathon. We are in talks about what the next marathon should be. We haven't fully decided whether or not we're going to get to another one this year or not. It would be nice to knock out another four week marathon and get to them for weeks in a row like we did with this one but we are approaching the fall movie season and we're gonna have some weeks where there's some movies coming out that <hes> we wanted to vote time to that said there are some open weeks josh we've noticed on the schedule where nothing is really enticing us so marathon might be possible some of the ideas. We've kicked around. We've previously mentioned looking at the work of hirokazu coretta or we could stick with classic hollywood and and famous actresses whose work we need to become more acquainted with like marlene dietrich. How about bette davis or sam is really had us focus on this one josh looking at chinese cinema from the best of the decade and sam's being a smart producer here. He's thinking about the task we have at hand coming up which is looking back on this decade. The twenty tents which will be devoting a lot of time to not at the end of this year but probably early in two next year when we have a little little bit of distance and we have a longtime listener the show he's been on the show before sean gilman great film writer and thinker who loves chinese cinema and and when andy wire came out with their one hundred british films or whatever the twenty tens he pointed out the dearth of chinese films and said here are eleven movies. You really need to see if you're going to consider the best of the decade. Here are eleven essential chinese films. I've worked with him to narrow that down even to the essential four to six so we're thinking about that we could of course focused just on one of those directors as well and go johnny till we haven't made this explicitly clear josh but we have kind of tried tried to do a little bit of alternating from hollywood to maybe foreign language as opposed to kind of following of dietrich with betty davis even the right. I wouldn't mind doing that. No i mean gene and we haven't done this before where we focused on an actor and that's been very rewarding but i do like the idea of mixing it up and we've got a lot of good options here to go another direction so we'll have to see if we can fit it in we will we welcome your feedback. If you wanna push us in one direction or another you can email us feedback at film spotting dot net you can also check <music> out all of our past marathons at film spotting dot net slash marathons josh. That's our show for this week. It is over at the website. 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So I'm thinking about doing an entire thing where in-between the jokes you see the tour dock, and then you go to the next city, and then you see toward the next city in the next cetera. So I'm thinking about maybe putting that out in its entirety in some place. And then I got one more thing that can't say just now. But there is a very special part of the the whole European thing that I think we're going to animate put it that way. Watching Alex get fucking arrested. Maybe. We wanted to say some better like we got the security footage that night would house got into security guard was animated as cool too. This will be so sick. But I go check them says YouTube dot com slash the Schultz. Check that out and yeah, check out the tour docs there in the dropping in series that I do. But but right now, I wanna I wanna start to show talking about us. I just saw us last night. It was a lot to get to us talk about. Why the way she does made like eighty million dollars so fucking spoilers? All right. Yeah. About now. I didn't. Hey, man. Got didn't do exactly. And even if whatever we say about the movie is even if we tell you the ending of the movie, you're going to still go watch the movie. Yes. Because I think it's one of those pieces of art that you will watch and you'll have your own perception of everybody will have their own take. Yes. Hundred percent that the movie is not about the ending. It's one of these movies that the ending is a nice little bun, but the movie itself for me was not about the ending. Okay. I think the movie people like what is this movie really about is it about it's not about race is it about classes about I think this movie is about geopolitics. I think it's movies about America's relationship with the rest of the world. I think that's why it's called us because it's US. Thank you, the United States. And I think that the other family that looks just like you, which is what we see as the potential villain in a movie. I think that that's that family in Mexico that that that family Mexico. They're suffering is directly correlated to your luxury. We can only live this luxurious fantastic lifestyle. With choosing the made of our choice and living in pools and having boats because there are people out there in the world that live in incredibly simple in almost abusive and a lot of times abusive. Lifestyle. Right. And I think that metaphors really driven home at the end of the movie where you see that border wall. I'm calling it a border wall. But you see the handshake and the people are dividing the country has across America at the hands across America. What I think that is. I think that's him. Like kind of telegraphing the point like, hey, here's your Boorda wall. This is what you're separating. You wanna go put up a wall? Well, this is why we have a wall we have a wall. So we could keep all this fund in. And then the darkest part of the movie for me was and this is I guess giving away the ending a little bit. But should. Yeah. Exactly, so lupita. So there's there's a there's lupita neon go, right? Her two characters. Right. The lupita younger that has children and is part of the family. We learned was actually switched with the other one. So it was adopted ganger Dedobbeleer ganger was the one was actually the real one living above ground. Yes. And the the Yvonne no real one living under around switch when their child, right? And I think what that is a message about is. There are people that come to America in a leave their countries and they'll fight for their life to not go back. They'll fight for their life to maintain the lifestyle that they have. And they'll very quickly forget how horrible it is back home and very easy time. Ignoring it. I have a I'm not mad at that. Have a lot of those same sentiments. I didn't I didn't look at it. It from the perspective of other countries. But I did look at it from the perspective of the reason, they look alike is because you should see yourself and other and other people, you know, what I'm saying. Like if you saw it yourself and the poor and disenfranchised. You would have more empathy. Also did feel what did you just say? What did you? And what about the the ideas? Like once you once you have some success come to America. It's easy to go. I'm not leaving this. And I'm not definitely not helping those people away some of mine, so the lupita character that was above ground experienced both sides. So she experienced how fucked up it was. And once she got above ground reading. She was so paranoid and had so much bad anxiety is because once you knew what she had did down below by, you know, scrambling the little girl and switching places with her. But also, we're not going back to this shit. My kids will not be raised in in this shit whatsoever. So I agree with that. I literally just looked at it as a movie about classism all I saw it as and you know when. Google hands across America was that was a real event that happened in nineteen eighty six and they were just trying to raise awareness for the homeless, and they was trying to raise money for people who are poor. I think they raise like six million dollars for the poor during that period. So when she when lupita lupita character told the other lupita, they had to make a spectacle, they had to do something to be seen. So to me, that's what that was. But I I'm not mad at the border wall the border wall. And this is the beautiful thing about art here here, I'm gonna geek out on our little bit. It's like and Georgia's credit, you create a piece of art that means one thing to Charlemagne one things to me one thing to the person listening right now. We're right. And none of those are are necessarily wrong or right? Like, that's how that's what I meant by the ending wasn't the movie the whole movie forces you to reflect on something like what is the movie of reflection of self, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you start reflecting on your relationship with the world. I guess the way I went about it. Maybe I guess the way I went about was this geopolitical, maybe because I've been reading about stuff recently about America's relationship with the rest of the world. So it's like, okay. That was what is in my mind. And that's why I painted the picture. Maybe you've been reading about you know, whatever it is like people let me be selfish American flick respect to the rest of the world shit. Yeah. Love the Caribbean. Love anguilla. Love Africa parts, but that's say. Saying I can only speak for America. When it comes to America. We all need to do better when it comes to eat charter, remember, it was one of the movie lupita said she said, she said, what are you? She said she said where Americans. Yeah, I yo- that's very mind blowing thing like if you look at somebody who's pause somebody who disenfranchised somebody who's oppressive who's marginalized. If you literally saw yourself in them. If you saw this could be me could be my family at any moment. You would have more empathy. And did you see the empathy that lupita 's character head J couldn't kill her daughter? Couldn't kill the daughter. Putting kill her her son. It was it was the other son. Yeah. Right. Didn't want to kill them. All didn't wanna kill. And the other realized the power he had over his clone. His Daba kanger. Right. He goes. Oh shit. They do exactly what we do the by the real that early with vodka when you head what himself. Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. So it's like and he realize it when he just fix glasses. And then the retard verse. Fix glasses. Right. So it's like, but the mom couldn't do it. And that's why that last scene where like there was the ballet going on. Right. It was like how the fuck can underground lupita miss every single swing that above ground. The PD does why. Because she knew what swing. She was going to do. She was the real one. Absolutely. We had a Winston do on breakfast club. He gave me another layer to it. He he talked about how. You remember when when when they first came right to the house. Yeah. And he was sitting there aloof he was trying to figure out what the fuck do. These people want the mom knew what it was. You know, what I'm saying that you would if you want their freedom they want to be liberated untethered. Yeah. The guy didn't know he was like take my money. You know, what I'm saying got damn Alex you and it was doing other fucking podcast during Bernie, Alex. I know that Joe button podcast when I hear it one of the fuck what the fuck Skyguide fucking God Lage's thrice. What do we have before them? And I think we do sometime. I don't fucking know got Joe button podcast, and I know not invited to the Roc nation brunch. Next crate, how do we know you wanted to tether, realize Switzerland? Right. Fucking past Sweden still in motherfucking jails. Okay. But go, well, no he was saying that the father is middle class. He's a little bit privileged. You know, what I'm saying these? Privilege on vacation. He don't even understand what these people want. He don't even understand. Why these people are there? He's like, you know, you could take my car. You could take my wallet, man. We don't want that shit. We all motherfucking freedom. We've been eating rabbits damn, yeah. Our home other fucking lies the ravage was ill symbol, tell me. Tell me I wanna get into the rabbits original to original test subjects. Gotcha. I couldn't understand the rabbit original test subjects, and if you know ravage like they breed so fucking fast. Sometimes they can breathe so motherfucker fast. They just out of our control. You know what I'm saying? And also she said today's to eat them and have to eat them raw. So when our say that I went home and Google eating rabbits when you Google eating rabbits, you realize that you cannot survive of just a diet of ravage they say if you're in the wilderness, and you eat nothing, but ravage you will eventually die of mount nutrition. It's called rabbit starvation. Because like the meat is sold lean. So it's just like it doesn't give me that's like the food desert in the hood. That's like these food dozen the hood. That's like these in in the food that we eat that the point is a franchise have to eat in America. It's fucking GMO's. Not real eventually going kill us. All so that's that was that was that was number. That's that's great. What about the Winston thing? You were saying, oh, he was just privileged. So he didn't understand what these playing on. You can't. That's right. When you don't want for anything. You can't understand what someone wants your whole dynamic is I want. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Awesome. Things. Take my car and money. It was interesting. It was like it. It shows you how frivolous are problems. All right. He was complaining because his friend was one upping him with the car, and he got a boat trying to get a boat to try to make everybody feel like he was a some big boss through the other boat. There was even bigger a funny name yacht. But yacht was spelled put a so yes, it was like, hey, the first world problems. And then these people down here. You know, the underground people are having are having what they believe is our real problems, a lack of choice, we got all this choice. You know, the first thing that Dow underground lupita said I didn't get to choose my husband. I think it's true. What my kids grow up with? I didn't get to choose the food. And we'll be told her the other lupita said y'all take for granted the sunlight, you know, what I'm saying all just taken for granted being above ground. Right. Even when when they underground like they're looking up they're looking up at a higher class as the food sharing. I'm saying I personally enjoy the movie I thought it was really, man. There's there's another thing. I thought that was so important about it. I thought the most important character in that whole movie was Winston duke's character. Talk me why. Because oftentimes the characters you see TV shows and movies set examples of people were allowed to be right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He defied all stereotypes. So Winston Duke right now, if you watch any black movie or TV show with black people at center, the black guys here, the cool guy. He's the brave guy. He's the funny friend he swag out or he's a bad ass thug on a freight of anything super villain. This is one of the few shows where you see a guy being just a wash dead. Yeah. Yeah. He was. He was and you know, what the majority of black due to couldn't fight. Oh, cool confront who wasn't like wildly braved as walk around kind of hobbling. Right. And it's like for the firm, not maybe the first time, but they're way more people that are washed than cool. That's why cools valuable because it's rare. So now, you see this character who makes it okay for all these other black brought his being cool should at forty is a lot man. I just wanna do dad jokes and be corny wasn't possible is impossibility. I know already I'm fucking forty. I have three daughters that the house will remind me every day that I'm not cool right point to point out from cool to them. They'd be like who the fuck is Mary J Blige. Say what the fuck what is dishes? So there's like this this moment when I'm watching this movie. Right. And it's important the movie in theaters. Oh, yeah. I'll say this because the previews to us our every black movie that's gonna come out in the next few months. Okay. And what all these movies do in the previews, which a lot of movies that are black do is they go. Hey, just let you know. There's a black movie, and hey, just let you know the characters in his movie there black. They let you know subliminally. It's blinn. It's got the loonies playing. I got five one. No, no, no. I'm saying the previews not us the previews while you watch it in the movie theater. I'm saying the previews to us, right? What would a preview there's an suray movie coming out where you like somebody becomes little? Oh, yeah. That's a remake. Oh, big. We'll pack. Right. Right. Yeah. So so there's there's the movie where like the KKK guy and the tragedy. Hinson gotta be friends like unite the schools thought about away how many historical black because you're gonna make Terachi home. I got your alternates. Raj into the with bolts females more like an embodied. The thing about the Rogers role. There's people I never heard of shadwick bows woman. At least we played all the people that we know. Thurgood Marshall, at least at least I'm learning something when I watched Araj, right, right? Is new. But so basically, you see all these movies, right? And every one of those movies. Let's you know, they go. Hey, just let you know. There's a black movie there's always some line in the movie whereas white people do right? And that line is supposed to go. Hey, this is for our L awesome. We're different we are so different. And this is our unique thing right at cetera. The movie us made zero attempt at saying, hey, this is a black movie this families black this family was and there's a line blatantly in it American. This was an American family with a corny dad, just like white people corny as Asians have corny Indians, have corny dads. Write a mom and dad that wanted their daughter to excel at track and field just like any white dad or black. It was one of these movies where in except for the mom was captain marvel without the Powell's facts that's fair. She killed it. But I guess what I'm saying. Is you have the situation where it was very similar to like English shows that I see like if you watch English shows like Luther they don't have to like telegraph every character's ethnicity, like there's a Pakistani woman. That's detective they're not like here comes the Pakistan e woman, she's got some food on the table. And she tells about how somebody was racist her that day. So, you know, she's Pakistan e she just happens to park Stein detective bright, but Hollywood's will do that. Well, meaning Hollywood now black films black TV shows are doing great. So they're finally allowing black people to make the kind of story that they want to make you don't have to make necessarily just black stories. Well, yes, I wanna I wanna get into that. And I wanna get into that next. But because I think there is something unique about America in the way that we do movies and television compared to the our countries, but. I just found his so interesting that he made a movie that showed had black representation, right? And not like, the digest the, quote, unquote digestible for form, which is like a light skinned black family typical form the Saratoga form. Right. He didn't play into any black tropes. Right. Like, it would've been so easy. If this was like, a like, a, quote unquote black film for like Winston duke's character to fall, and and then the wife go, Honey. Okay. He goes, I am my my timberlands ain't that's what all these movies. Do guaranteed suray movie that little will pack. One is gonna have tons of those lines in it. It's gonna have tons of like or it's like, oh because maybe the people writing them are writing to a black audience Jordan is not writing to a black audience. And and that is how you get the whole world to realize how similar we are in different, right? Like, even in the is right move preview, which the movie looks fun. Like, I like big I thought it was fun. And there's a, but it was like the classic movie. I don't wanna see them remake it. What a I'll watch it. Exactly. But there was like the moment. There was a moment. I think it was like, you know, the girl's talking back to her mother. We're not taser who's not her mother but talking about her. And then there's a character some goes. Oh this girl. Crazy white folks do well like the kid talks back to the parents. Okay. We get it. Oh, we did a lot of did a lot of. We did a lot of that in theater. Sure. Like as we're watching the movie like we're talking to screen like come on. You know, why people shit? Talking to the screen. We're not even just that. It wasn't just that. We will questioning Winston dukes masculinity. Yo had a screening in New York. So it's like, oh you plus the come Queen. Oh, you're close Queen so disliked that was that's that's normal. Yeah. Another thing. I want to say about Jordan Peele. Right. I think so Jean is about the way he writes. And it's the way you should write in two thousand nineteen and going forward. It's about the conversation. After the fact it's about what we're doing right now spending twenty three minutes on a podcast dissecting. You know, I only went to see it. Because of this combo doesn't I'm saying like everybody was talking about you said, it's one of those things it's tough to understand. So now you tapped into my eagle going in there like off then I couldn't understand. I bet I could figure this shit out. I went last night. I gotta see this fucking because I wanted to talk to you specifically about and see if we could break like the the rabbit shit. I couldn't get some fucking rabid symbolism. As it was it was Google that though like a little thing than we've got like, Jeremiah joint, Jeremiah eleven eleven description, you know, you're going to give you a problem. You cannot handle scream for help. And I won't hear you knowing you know, I don't know if that was for the poor and disenfranchised who've been down there for so long and they've been screaming for help. And nobody heard them or was that for the people above ground. Yes. Who nowadays fucking getting killed? And this this calamity and NASCAR helping nobody can hear them. Like one thing about the movie. You don't know who's good, you're evil. Yes. I can't say it was good who's evil in that movie because these people were cloned. They would trapped underground they wanted their mother fucking freedom. Lupita the real lupita was down there. She knew what it was like to be above ground. She was able to communicate. To them. This isn't right. It should y'all doing how life is opposed to be like it's a hold of the world going on. We're gonna get the fuck up there like, but then you got the woman above ground. She escaped. She ain't wrong from what Netscape from that situation. So it was like who's good who's evil and this movie. My feeling was the evil. People are the clones that kill the people above ground that had no clue that they even existed below ground. But he couldn't communicate. They didn't know they they couldn't talk. They couldn't they didn't know how to say. Hey, we're innocent people. They're killing people that didn't know that there were even clones themselves, whereas lupita lupita new their clones down there. So she does. Lupita was everything she got and pleaded with file the lupita above grandma's file. Yeah. Yeah. Because because if anything which is weird to me, right? The lupita that switch places she couldn't talk either. She had to learn the talk. But when she did learn to communicate she told the world like it's a whole nother world going on the ground. You know what I'm saying? But but that's the point. I was saying earlier it's all the people that raise their selves in their class or all the people that come to America from the oppressed country. They get they feel the comfort of America. And they're like should. I don't wanna talk out. I don't wanna lose this. Fuck that I'm gonna fight to the nail to keep this, and I get it. Because at the end of the day, humans are you know, we are selfish people were concerned with our own survival. And we're going to do whatever maintains their own survival. Even if it means fucking over all those people you are underground with. Yeah. That's what went on breakfast club. He said he was about survival. And he was like who gives a fuck. No. He said when you're trying to survive all you want an ally. You don't care about things. Like, hey, I'm the man I should be going to do this. I you know, what I'm saying. Like, you know, like women should be doing X Y. The no I need to fucking survive. Let's figure out a fucking survives align. He has in the movie where he goes your mom knows what to do. But that was after she already proved itself to the whole damn movie. And he realized man, I really bought this mother fucking that she about it. Trying to survive on all that misogyny bigotry rates authorship moves away. Right. You in the woods and this black dude got a fire. Hey, I don't care. You're black. Can I can I have some of that fire? That's why we need aliens brought keep saying bad guy. Bigger threat. We need a bigger threat to our humanity. We need a bigger threat to motherfucking society. We need Dane, bro. We need to we need to come out. The skies snap my fingers and make all y'all motherfucker go to fuck away. If y'all don't figure this should fuck up because guess what? I imagine that magic. They came down and said check it out. Right. We coming back and forty years, you only got this shit right in forty years ago. Take this shit to fuck. Oh, I don't know how to be unified. Don't know how to have group operation y'all still thinking y'all better than each other because shit like skin color because of fucking gender because of sexuality body is we'll be back. What would you do? I think we get together. And then you know, the puck and snapped shouldn't makes half the ravaged disappeared. Just to show you here. I'm saying that you know, he ain't motherfucking. He should have done. This gave a little warning. You know, just get some things he gave us when he did been around since the first movie, but he said specifically if you don't get it together as a rat. Well, he kept sending his minions so like, low key and all those alien invasions. He was letting them know like here's the thing. They knew maybe they didn't know what the Infinity's could do all together. I don't think what. Yeah. He didn't let nobody knows plan. Maybe strange. But I don't think anybody maybe. But he they knew not even coming coming. Of course. That's why. But did you like us, dude? I thought it was excellent thought it was better than get up. Not only. I didn't see it out. Really? I had no interest because I feel like I've seen the story before there was called, stepford wives. It was so it was a story that I didn't really see that. I loved it out. Wow. In a different way. Joining meaning like, it's an immediate while while always keep saying like, you know, get out with good kid mass city. This is the pimple. Butterfly. 'cause we get out of Bangor's lyrics. Oh shit. Like is hard. You can't even like wrap before with like that shit. You know what I'm saying? But then you hear the pill. Butterfly. I liked it with a lousy was like, but over time that she has classic. You know what I mean? Yeah. Get out his in. And I haven't seen it, but judging based on the plots and easier mover today, Jessica because the bad guys much more clear right about raising. It's about racism. So like if you felt racism you can look at that. And be like, oh, that's a confirmation of a feeling that. I have right. It's no different than like everybody who wakes up going haywire conservatives, right? Then they turn on Fox News, and they go, hey, that's confirmation for the feeling that I have never roles turn on CNN. That's confirmation for the feeling that I have right? This. Is tapping into a feeling you didn't even know you had, you know, the feeling for optics confu confuse you confused because the truth of the matter lupita is everything that we originally Peter who Pam yes, the Iran lupita who motherfucking choked out the real and switched with her everything we hate in America. Yes. Like straight up. She was a she was a press of she she marginalized somebody and she fucking sue vantage of somebody on her shoulder. That's on our shoulders like somebody what you needed to been. Then forgot about that. After you. Immediately notes you knew they were down there. And it was like fuck that. I'm living high off the hug. Yup. And we do I mean, listen, I tend not to do it. But I'm lying if we say, we don't we all his return a blind eye that shit going over there. And I'm not to this movie. Was I think this is an important movie for like a lot of reasons. Have you seen me geek out on do? I geek out on shit. Yes. Be honest. Be honest like what you got. But it's kinda rare with me. The person that just like sees somebody go that's the best ever. Or watching something that pretty critic. For me. This is an important movie in American history. Important American history in the same way that like the Cosby family just kinda was a family, right? I think this is a turning point for black people in film, and I think it breaks these tropes. I don't think that you're going to you know, and this is not a knock on Tiffany haddish. But like that character that she always plays, which is like what white women think black women are bright. I think that this movie goes, oh doesn't have their black women that are a lot of different ways. They don't aren't always ASI or this that the others. There's a black woman. They're like lupita they're like nerdy professors. They're black women that are like, I don't know just like unfunny boring to Tiffany, Tiffany. Like, a I a lot of ways though, meaning like. In I in a while, you there's been a long line of this. Character has been played. It's what you say no different than like in Italian trope. Right. We had a long line of the Italian character. Tony soprano might have been it. And then before the guys in goodfellas, Al Pacino, Robert de Niro, no, I got a better point. Okay. That is the that is what you think about a young black woman from the hood. We've seen that. We haven't seen enough of multidimensional. Maybe that's better women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is not a knock on Tiffany, this person like that person shouldn't exist. But what I'm saying is after the success of this. You're going to see stories told that have a black family, but it has nothing to do. That's what their blackness. That's what that's what black film writers black directors in Hollywood have been screaming. I don't want to just make the black movie. I just want to make a movie that they don't have black data think a movie like us would work with a black cast. So they don't think when you got black lead. A movie like us would work. So let's go on this. Because this is the this is the other conversation want to get into when you say, they you think you're talking about the finances of this movie and those executives Hollywood often white, of course, right? Okay. So I started thinking I was like how many movies do we get a year either about slavery about black people being oppressed? Like there's like ten movies year come out, right? If feels like about racism in America are Tyler Perry's, right Pacific, -ly racism, right? Like we relive this time where we relive this this this we relive races. Right. And I'm like does this happen in Germany like today have ten holocaust moves that come out of here that produce in Germany about how horrible the holocaust? But I doubt it. There's no way. There's no way. It happens any other country in the world relives this experience now. So that so now I'm thinking about it. And I'm like, okay. Who's making these films, right? Sure. Could be blacked records show could be black writer who's financing these films. White people are financing. These films. Right. I'm like, okay. So there's rich white exacts that are making movies about the trust the trustees of racism in America, I go, wait a minute. There are black people here experienced racism every single day. They they they know what they feel and oftentimes that is looked over. And they're told hey that you know, that might not have been raising this that the. So you put out a movie that exposes the racism, and they're like finally somebody's acknowledging what I go through. Right. But I don't think those exact give one fuck about being woke or knowledge. I think let's get you know, that I think those exects are mining your fear cashing in on your pain. Trauma to cash in on your fear, the newspaper, the news channels do every day. They're Fox News. Those different. I just knew that is our CNN, and it was all fear mongering. Exactly. Right. So they're tapping in the tap into your fear. The monetize it and the sick thing about these focus is they want an Oscar too. Compla- they'll they'll manipulate you make money off of your fear from your real life in real pain that you went through and then go Pat me on the back in front of all my friends, you disgusting piece of shit. That's why only country in the world that relives these fucking racist moments every second and it's not so we can learn it's not. So we can be better. It's not. So we can believe if exactly we could line the fuck and pocket. These exact it is some sick shit. That's why I don't give a fuck about slave movies. And I've been stop watching slave movies because I've said two years now, we have other stories not only we have other stories, historically, we have other stories that can be created. And you know, some of those stories got nothing to do with your blackness. Stories that are low you're human. Yes. Certain things that we're all gonna understand survival. Boom, fear. You know, what I'm saying sex laughs a certain things that are the human being. You're just going to understand. And I think now is the is one of the I don't one of the first generations. But yeah, one of the first generations that is absolutely getting the chance are typically to just express things other than just black. That's why this story's. That's why Jordan and this movie is so important, Michael Jordan. No, Jordan peo-. The way to make Michael Jordan. No matter what. No, that's what Jordan this movie so important, and and we were talking on on a flagrant to about this. But there's a, you know, some people knock Jordan because he's gotta white wife. You kinda gotta know both perspectives. Sure there Jordan for the long had not by the black community. Okay. Right peel, Jordan. So he understands fuck. We can't feel like you're right. I think Jordan pill from what I'm seeing right now. In the film world is a genius. Yup. I was not a fan Akeem pill right didn't discipline. Just my bar for that shit was very hard. Yeah. I come from the living color. Dave Chapelle air. Yup. Can't peel wasn't doing every night. And I see a sketch. I'm like, okay. That's cool. Yeah. That's doing the film world is amazing. So he kinda is is in both worlds these black, man. You can't never get rid of that experience. But you do go home to a white woman. So your your experience, maybe a little different. Can I make can I make a point about? Okay. Jordan, Peele comedian. Yeah. His wife who is white is also a comedian on Onoda Jordan Peele, married, a comedian. And I think what happens is. Yeah. And I think what I think that's missed by a lot of people. Right. It's like it's like a lot of times you identify with one thing, and that dictates our identity, and then everything falls underneath that. Like, for example, if you're Muslim, right? You could be black and Muslim you could be Arabic Muslim could be white and Muslim. But the first thing is Muslim. So if you're Muslim and you marry another Muslim that's number one. So that's to Muslims getting married. So I think if you're a comedian Jordan's dictate your whole life, and then you connect with this other comedian that's comedian get married. One happens to be black one happens to be white. She was just some white lady that like runs a nonprofit or some shit. Then I'd be like all right. What's going on here? Yeah. But I truly believe their bond is more based on. On being comics. And I would think that it would be impossible to have echo chamber at house meaning that that thousand he's black. She's white. They're both comedians too. They're always trying to look at things from different perspectives on these conversations about race. He's conversations about privileges conversations about class like they all come from a different perspective all the time like their dinner table, the probably poppet hop in. You know what I'm saying? Get out probably came from how her throat family reunion for her. Exactly. You know what? I mean us might come from him having conversations with her about classes. I don't I don't be honest with how join grew up. So Jordan might have been the been on the other side. I don't I don't know. But I'm just saying something to go into bed with a white woman every night, and especially a white comedian. Then I'm sure shopping's his sword and has gives him a different lose. Perspective. How do we know? Lou pizza, isn't Jordan. What do you mean? How do we know the lupita character is in Jordan? Here's Jordan this black guy. The wealth and success that he experienced. Was not initially within the black community. Get was within the luxurious confines of Hollywood, the white world was Hollywood this wealthy. You know, elitists world that lupita lived in right in show. He knows what he came from. But he was willing to turn a blind eye to it. Maybe there were parts of an at times that were like I would fight with my life. Not to go back there. I do anything I possibly could not to go back. And maybe this this storytelling. If show is I came realizing that was fuck up on me that was fuck up. If I felt like that other people might must have felt like that in their life. And that's our movie about to be fired because the way Jordan is going which one is the next one MAs outlaw what the next one is what I'm saying. Like who who is Jordan relates because you're putting yourself in rare air in already rare space, which is Hollywood black white Latino who the fuck is Jordan pill relate to in a minute. Seriously. We don't know how much us going to end up making you said it made eighty all ready made seventy the first weekend. I'm just assuming because it's Thursday that is probably made another ten fifteen twenty million probably more because Google that real quick Taylor. Probably more cost twenty million may twenty million fucking make probably spends four to me. Yeah. I know, but they got to promote it. So that's another maybe fifty sixty million that they're doing in the ads. Right. Don O are some us us the budget for us was definitely way bigger than right, right? Then get up and also emotional budget because you got to do the promo, but we're talking about profit in the first. This weekend. I mean that is a million dollars profit in the first one you've got to pay for the promo, right? You gotta pay the take ads on TV and all that kind of share. Always hear about that. I don't know exactly. How much what what's to to make profit the first? Anyway, the best promo getting his right now. This is what I mean. That's the that's the best art when that movie was over we stood outside of the movie theater for about another hour and a half podcasting. Having conversations Bach has happened in the movie, and all we you go right to social media. You start talking about it. You know what? I mean you start googling shit. It's always think pieces you start sharing think pieces. Like nihilo sent me DJ. Now's the most you sent me a fucking of article. I sent her on Saturday, and I'm like Saturday. She's like on medicine at them among what was the article? It was about a us explained. Right. Right. I'm saying, it's basically it was confirming a lot of the things that we are had flush to our head. How much is it? Seventy point three million three. So. I think one of the things that move shows. You is human don't want everything explained. No, not in this era. Not we want like fucking great about this. No, I've really ride in this movie. But I, you know, it's rare that I get really inspired by some shit. And this was dope. You know? What's so great about this shit is when you have all the streaming culture. And don't get me wrong streaming is the future. But sometimes streaming stops this where you are. Threemen? So we can't have the combo. We waited for a week movie to come out now is ready to go. Everybody's seen it. And now we've got this cultural event. Whereas I what did you think about the rabbits out having this conversation today about boondocks, right? Because I was like, you know, everybody wants to come back. Come back. Come back like you'll be on Netflix. 'cause I see people online saying that booed on that flute. I remember when that's on Netflix. You want some time in real time. I think about watching the art Kelly episode of boondocks in real time with social media about watching Chapelle back in the day with Twitter. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, I this is where Netflix FOX up game. Adults can't be on fucking stock the on demand. It's the real time. You gotta give me one word week at a time. Let me digest it. Let me talk to my let me Tex tail Textron y'all seen it. Yeah. What do you think is it that we love that? Humans love that. The only difference is this will only do it with something we're invested in. So the tricky thing is how do you get someone invested? How do you give away enough to get someone invested but not giveaway at all? And this is how you do it. If the first season is ten episodes. You gave me the first three you give me the first three enough to get hooked. If you notice the pilot episode of every sitcom you get the first twenty minutes when no commercials. That's our way of getting you in. So you hook me with the first three episodes. Now, we're in. I watched the first three that night. I three weeks the conversation percolates, but it's not popping then week four. You come with a fucking banger again that water cooler talk. Go. I can't think of no appointment TV nowadays except for game of thrones. That's not lies the show insecure. Definitely on Sunday nights. I'll give it that. I can't think of nothing else. This show is live on Twitter. That's it. Not your love the shot. But not yet. It's not it's not like a point of view in not shit. It's not. This is huge on watch that shit out. Think about streaming or not streaming just has to be good. No. That's not true. So okay. So here's a different trait with whereabouts write a movie is contained. We know you see the movie it's done. There's nothing coming after. There's no spoiler, bro. You had the two hours go watch movie. Now, we have the conversation about in ongoing show. It could be eight episodes, ten episodes. Burbach who weren't doing minute by minute play by play. We were doing the me. And if you didn't know what the fuck fuck this blind ocean talking about them play by play like oh shit. Did you see the right wedding holy shit. What the fuck just happened? And like imagine watching the movie, right? Like imagine watching us in real time. Imagine that she came on TV. Yes. At the end of that movie. Everybody would have been like what the fuck what the fuck did just have. I just happened. Like, I don't know. I just feel like that's the only way to do any art nowadays. Like, you got to create some type of conversation intimacy. It's like people will wait for the breakfast club interview. Because they know they know how to trust you saying like, they're like, oh, blah, blah, blah, one hundred bucks or called boom. I'm watching that tomorrow because they trust and have intimate relationship with you guys. You know, they're not gonna go watch some interview with Xavier whoever the fuck that is because they don't know don't know about that guy. Wait weeks for that? They have no clue house eight years going to interview him. You know what I'm saying? Like remind me to tell you something to cause. I thought about something I don't wanna say on the air 'cause I'm really doing a great troll right now. And it's so amazing. The watch. We talk a little and I want to say this amazing amazing to watch, but husbands great fucking movie. I wanted to my bad kinda wanna talk to you about an interview did on burqas club buses, a great movie. Yeah. I think that y'all should go. See it. If you haven't seen it. I don't even know of our takes on it are correct. But I think I don't think we're far off at all. But that why it's art man. Is there this could fill? This could be a lot of things he made a movie there could be a lot of things. And I promise you, even though it might feel like we gave away the end you would figure that out thirty minutes into the movie. No, I didn't really see that entry my boy. My boy said he saw it, of course, after the fact tell me during the movie. Yeah. I mean in us the reason why I start to pick up on it is because you start to see like the animalistic side of lupita come out when she was in her fights. She was start going. Right. Doing it to save our kids to me, I thought that was just the mother how mothers react when they trying to trying to her kids, but one of her kids new. Jason knew at the end the little kitty low boy sit in the locker he knew before he knew before he knew he knew the second. He saw Luke kill the let the white lady. Really also I'd like to point out. Did you see how efficiently that why family killed itself? Like father, just the job pro. Like, they it feel like the stocks, just focus. So it's like, but that was ill part of the movie to kid name was Jason he wore a master on the whole Jordan had little like when the kid was walking on the beach. With Josh shirt on people. Forget jobs was a movie about some shit that came from underground and was eating fucking more fortunate. Hello sitting there. He has Illo nods in there, can you? Tell me what the frisbee thing was remember the frisbee lands on the towel there at the beach. And it land perfectly on the circle. Are member who pizza had a big reaction to it? But I didn't understand what the reaction was remember she sitting with the white lady. I remember that. And then later that say they're like, there's all these winces are happening. I think they're happening for a reason. But what was it about that? I think that was like. Aligning like. I thought there something about what was on the frisbee star. Maybe you maybe it was say that everything you see in his movie was supposed to happen. I don't even feel sorry for the d'appel ganger. Don't feel sorry for the real Peter 'cause she was supposed to be here in this moment. Yes. You know what I'm saying? If it wasn't for the real, Peter who could communicate and go down there and talk to people who didn't communicate. They wouldn't know what was going on up there in the real world. So she was there to lead that revolt toy everything is meant to be. So don't feel sorry for her. You know what? I mean. I don't know that could be that could be. Yeah. Yes. Taylor. I have come come. She was waiting on. You'd ask her that. Oh my God. Oh, my fucking. Just saying so that we can hear you know, how you said that they caught the double gang whatever they copied of the people that right? So when the regular Pedo is why they switch the winning. She have copied the other one anyway. No, that's what we were saying earlier. Right. Like, they the reason why she was so easily avoiding punches and our swings is because she already knew what she did. And they say the same conscious. Why the tethered which is the one below has to copy what the one above does. Now since they switched wait a minute. Okay. Right. Since they switched. Now. The one below no is actually the one. Okay. Give now the one below is actually still in charge. So happened they've lost. So that's why whenever the one of the one above who is the original one below was swinging the one below who is the original one above was like, I know you're gonna swing because you do whatever I tell you to do. See what I'm saying? You're not you're not. Yeah. Yeah. That's why was easy. And that's why they were doing that ballet analogy. Right. It was like every time. He did those ballet moves I knew the valley moves because you made me dance when you were dancing there. I was dancing downstairs. No. Wouldn't it be the other way around wouldn't it be the one see I didn't understand that part because the one dancing downstairs was the real one. So she's the one who would have known how to that's why the one upstairs danced 'cause it went downstairs there. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Got you beans frisbee. The red one was below a blue dot it landed on was on top. And it landed exactly perfectly on top because it aligned with everything that the one below is doing George the blood. Jones blood that. One down is going to land on top of one. Exactly the same. Okay. Okay. This is a great movie. Go see we've got a lot of other shit to get to man because of doing black celebrities not letting white celebrities breed when it comes to fuck shit at all, no. Okay. Guys. Other than your absolute best friends who could you ask to bring you red wine at four PM sushi at nine pm and a breakfast burrito at eight AM, nobody you know, that for a fact. Okay. 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Just whatever he's gay his last name starts with. But so I think it's funny. But the reality of the matter is this. This guy is gaining a lot of steam, and you asked an interesting question that can't be as name Buddha Buddha. Judge boot Buddha guy, Buddha edge, whatever who does. Who does? The mayor pate reason to call mayor Pete. And I made a okay, you you said interesting thing to him. Moment, you're talking and then you're like, man. This is weird man. But like, I believe you, and that's an uncomfortable feeling healing. And they take saying he goes. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? He said he said, yes created a politician actually has question answer question Jesus Christ. And you're reacting the way that most people react to authenticity. There was a magnet. You're like I fucking like this guy. Why do I like him? I might not agree with him on everything you, but he's at least fucking telling me the truth. And you cannot fake that don't give a fuck. You cannot fake it. You know, somebody's bullshitting you, you know, when somebody may just be saying some things that you want to hear that what he got you can't fake it. I know it I feel it. I've been around it my whole life. I I liked the guy, and you know, what I like about this. Tell me why doesn't matter if he's white Buddha judge. There you go Putin judge judge don't matter if he's white no matter if he's gay Peter Budi fudge who set. No, not to let those jokes. I thought you fucking bullying. How hard it was. I think you'd have been a good sport about it. Or he would have been he would've been he would've added. They wanna do that on our first he still needs Chick-fil-A anything or and a hell that right? There is I'm gonna be old. That and tell them tell that in on the I. This. It was it was kinda like the part two of a conversation. We had about Eminem because he says he's Eminem fan, and I was like that's a huge contradiction. Right. Because m has such homophobic lyrics, and he was like yo Eminem makes me feel empowered was like a white kid from the mid west. It's when I hear a song like white America. Like, you know, that should make me fell. He sees that overpowers the hate the hate that he made spew, and I was like, wow. You know what I'm saying? So then I asked him about Chick-fil-A later on. And he was like I to get what they politics like, I love the chicken man, we live in this world of fucking extremes where people act like nuance doesn't exist. Meaning like, I can't like part of you. If your x y z you know, what I'm saying. Like if the chicken is good chicken is good. They got homophobic over phobia. We know then. But the chicken is banging it's okay to say that if I say that is a perfect answer. I like the chicken I disagree with the politics. Why can't people see that? That could absolutely be the case. Why do you think? Because people down maybe we live in a world of extremes where where people will just have to have you know, one or the the whole totality of saliva lies. I I'm gonna be on which I have no idea. But it seems like there's certain people which which don't have to exist within that those tallies different. They like you. Yes. If we like, you we make exceptions the way I look at his it's kinda like grandparents, right? It's like your grandma your grandpa loves you. And you love them. And you know, that they do anything for you right now, your, grandma and grandpa might also be homophobic. They might also be racist. Right. But you kinda look past that grandpa, it's grandma 'cause you like the chicken. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I think that would artists door look at Cardi B, look at all Kelly looking R Kelly look look at all these people, right? Like you see blatant flaws? But they're. Things that you like so much about them. So you look the other way the why can't we just say that was fucked up. What they did. That was fuck of what they said. But I still fuck with them. I listen. I don't understand why I gotta be all or nothing. Yeah. Nothing with you. I'm with you. I it's just an interesting thing. Like, it kind of exposes cancel culture of it. Because it's like, you don't really hate this act. You don't like this person on you're using the act to justify you not liking. I'm like what Cardi B got going on right now with like saying that she's to drug men and still their money or something like that. And it's like if you know we're talking on the way over and now, she was like men if any dude said this is over for him, especially in the me to move us to drug women and steal their money. That's crazy. I'm giving us. I'm gonna give it some thought, Tom. I think is I think it's a false equivalency to say that the compared to say like surviving Cardi B in the compared Cardi beat a mother fucking Bill Cosby on I'm gonna tell you. Why equivalency it's it's a it's a a hundred percent accurate equivalents when it comes to drugging someone right period robbery and rape are two totally different charges that would carry two totally different sentences and consequences in a court of law. Good point, right. Yeah. Both predatory crimes right, but one type of a sexual predatory crime. Now, everybody in this room would much rather be drugged and robbed that he drugged and raped hundred. I don't give you a male a mother fucking female unless it's by Cardi B right now. Listen, I want everybody to pay attention. Just 'cause I know what everybody's saying right now, they're gonna try to take that little clip and say hook his justifying what Kathi said, no, that's not what the fuck. I'm doing. I'm just letting you know. And it's a difference between rape in robbery. Right. Okay. Both fucked up, but rape is to be rapists, high high high high motherfucking level not saying robbery isn't but come on those totally different because murder is rape toll in the robbery and should like, you know. Not making light of anything that she did or anything that. She said what she said was fouled. But this is what I acquainted to. Cardi wasn't a drug dealer. Cardi was a part of another underworld some could say which was described era. I'm saying New York scruples, even New York script was cripples all throughout the country some of them do grimy shit. Just like that growing up. They always tell you don't go to sleep with slipper go to sleep with a swiffer, but the fucking trying to say by lift it's fucking fuck me up. Just now don't go to sleep with a stripper because you'll wake up with nothing here. I've been knowing Dabo ganger Charlemagne hecklers, and I've been knowing about this coach before have moved the motherfucking New York City do shit like that does anybody not remember that big ass strip UIL shit that happened in New York, but three years ago when they took down this Ringling scripts because they was drugging d the lead us men in robbing them. They got like two hundred grand out of these the story. What Knicks player? I don't remember the Knicks. Yeah, I'm sure that it did happen. But there was a big thing was a a thing. So to be surprised that a former stripper in New York. It's talking about drugging and robbing men is like being surprised that a drug dealer carries a gun. None of it is right. I'm not saying, I'm not justifying they none of it is to normalize within the culture. Exactly now. Let's talk about this. This is what I like to to get my point. Yeah. We watch interviews all the time with male rappers talking about some of the most heinous violent crimes ever doing home invasions time people up shooting people killing people, Robin people. Why does that not shock us? But this woman saying they drugs in robbed men shot people like we shouldn't be normalized to any of it short. Shouldn't. We be is triggered about what Kathi said as we are about what all the other mail on your rapper say under percent. Lots of lat TV fucking out of Latino raviol- and listen to some of the wild shit. These dudes on their talk about doing and have done that doesn't trigger you like as all violent crimes at the end of the day to great point all of it. So I I don't I'm kind of like shocked at the shock so to speak. I am I mean, totally on. I get it. I get it. If you didn't know anything about that lifestyle in about that coach how shocked at the shock. I'm shocked at the shock. Do you think on some do you think on? Do you think there's some part where it's 'cause this reaction is mostly for men? Right. Oh, you know, what that's about talk to me is because men have been on his men to thing for a long time. And you got a lot of guys. But whatever reasons still row Kelly got a lot of guys who still ride with Bill. Cosby a lot of guys feel like the metoo time's up movement is only attacking black men. They're not coming after white men and not coming after women. So now, it's one of those situations where okay Cardi said something, that's honestly, not even in the same ballpark is what Bill Cosby did other than the drugging. Right, right. And they're like get her get artifact outta here. Why not muting her music? So this is men being snowflakes. So 'cause always men all these men are complete fine with the misogynistic lyrics, and in their favorite rappers wraps and the second something comes out from three years ago where you the man could be the victim and keep in mind when these rappers are talking about like killing people in that kinda shit. They're talking rival drug dealers. So the average guys like that couldn't be me. But the average guy might pay for some pussy. And now the fact that a lyric or align or interview affected their regular lives. Now, all of a sudden, we're like how could this is wrong? This is bet you sound like a bunch of pussies listen, call Orangeville fucking mail snowflakes. Call those mill who's far from snowflake while he's a call those military Cardi B says she drugged and robbed them. I'm a man. And I'm not outraged off ended those men will breaking the law anyway, listening sex for high facts, you started it. Started real isn't. I don't agree with none of it. Right. But I'm just I'm never going to deal with selective morality, right? I try to always be aware. Right. You know, what I'm saying of any type of selective morality right is. Right. Wrong is wrong. Right. What caught he said was absolutely positively wrong. There's no question about it. I wish she hadn't said it in that way. I wish he would have explained it in a book. You know, what I'm saying explained it in indefinite of you somewhere. You know, I mean because that was her lifestyle like that was who she was. She said I did a lot of foul shit. You either want the truth or you don't want the truth? The truth is that our lot of strippers in New York City used to get motherfucking not even just New York across the world and probably still are out here in these motherfucking streets. So you the want that harsh reality or you don't. So I wish you had never motherfucking SETI. But what the fuck out? I'm saying that she was absolutely positively wrong. But what she said what maybe that's what I was trying to say that's just the harsh reality of with. What the fuck it is. Hi, Chris walked in right at the right time. We're talking about Cardi B. But and is my thing too. Right. What are you gonna do? Yeah. Like, I that's the other thing. I want to know what is the punishment for these you want? They want payback punishment. They want. Hey, we were taking out for this shit. Why aren't y'all taken out for their shit? That's what it, but you have to understand Taylor goes. Exactly. Right. But that happens in every single way. Right. There's a lot of people right now that are very happy. That Justice Malek got off for the same reason. They're like, oh, y'all get off shit. So this was like when we off with shit. Right. So again, there's more selective morality, and I think I think the thing that we have to start realizing as people is our moralities are selective were cool with with grandma saying fucked up shit because we love her. We're cool card at some of us. Cool Cardi saying fuck shit because we love her. But we not going to be cool summer. We hate even breaking our moral, compass in the slightest way, I think it's a great exercise. And the reason I think is a great exercise because when things happen to people that you. Actually know when things happen to people that you actually fuck wit it gives you more empathy for when something happens with somebody that you don't fuck with. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that's why I've happy. Yes. Today. My age phone either. Listen, I don't have any issue with Justice never have always been cooled. When the situation I happened. I told her I didn't believe it. But I have no reason to say, I don't believe it 'cause he could absolutely you telling truth guess what right now, I still think he's lying. But I don't know these line for shore. Course, I'm so I'm so used to. But I just wasn't there to see I get it. So I'm gonna say if you ask me this ninety nine point nine percent of these lying, but it's like a point something percent chance that he's not just how I sure personally feel but just say no victory lap. I'm listening. I'm happy that he wasn't going to jail time. Anyway, right. It was going to be it was gonna be community service, regardless with all those towns and everything. So so my feeling on the Jesse thing is I'm actually happy because I think it shows black Americans and minority Americans that privilege. Is not just the white thing that there's only learn OJ Ono to fuck as well. Sometimes you need like a constant reminder new new New Orleans. These OJ was one of the most famous black people in the history of America. The most cities just a gay side character on a show. Nobody cares about anymore. So it's like you have an that's what Hollywood privilege can give you the gay to book. You right. You right, Gordon van Jones Jackie Robinson of del GT community. So he's more of the gays. I oh, wow. Character. He would pick someone who plays with bats. And balls. So so so I guess what I'm saying is like. It's like this. I opening event. Like, hey, it's not just white people that have privilege, right? It's rich people have privileged. Whatever Ali would has privilege, right? Politicians have people in positions of power or close to power are gonna get this special treatment, and those of us who are not closer power or those of us who are not wealthy again being a cop there's privilege there. That's that's proximity the power, and while maybe the average white person might get away with more than the average person. If you were a black person in Hollywood, you ain't getting clip for shit angel who like who Bill Cosby Bill cobbs one hundred fifty he had a good run. She had a good fucking run Kelly still nine jail. Like, there's there's these limited man, we've been hey, Jesse made a bad ball Kelly. They don't make an example out of all. On. Listen, I get one of those guys because the mayor the mayor is mad as fuck. I just right now the police are mad at Jesse. I'm gonna tell you something that's just the up. And I thought about this today, right? Rahm Emanuel is our Chicago mayor of Chicago, but aria manuals, brother. Ari Emanuel owns the biggest biggest agent in Hollywood. He is who are are old tramonte based off W M E, brother. Yeah. You saw pissed off ramp on new so maddening around. Ro does our is going to be rough at the pilot over Jesse y'all is gonna be rough all I think it's because of that relationship Rahm talking Ari Ari seeing are pissed off Rahm is Ron probably given all our all the shit that wouldn't come out in court because Jesse Jesse was to take a deal. It's a it's a what they call it a deferred prosecution deal. So the ten thousand dollar bond, and he gave up that goes to the state parts of the case will be sealed. So you'll never know exactly what happened. And I think he had to do some community services some shit like that. So the deferred prosecution deal. So the mayor no that think merit until Ari knowledge shit like that you think that they're not gonna hold a grudge. Oh, like don't worry about nowhere worry handle the downtown gonna handle this way. If you don't see jussie around after this after buyer. That's the reason why are we gonna take a break real quick pay some bills. Support for today's show comes from goat K, go does not playing around if you're buying sneakers online is more than a coin flips chance that the shoe that you're looking at is fake. Do you hear that? That's right. You probably pay top dollar for fake sneakers. How can you be sure? It's real. That's the game right now is how can you be sure? A sneaker Israel. Go dot com is the safest way to buy and sell authentic sneakers online. They're the largest market place in the world for authentic yeezy Jordan's over six hundred thousand sneaker listing. 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The fact that the Robert Muller's should happen this week in the fucking Mullah report came out, and it was it was literally the exact same verbiage. I'm watching CNN Trump Freeman Trow, y'all faster. I'm watching CNN last night. And they are putting on the ticker the similarities between the Justice Donald Trump case. Now, I hate America for this type of ship. I really do. I don't wanna see pop culture blended with my politics. But it's because we have a celebrity in the motherfucking White House if the same verbiage he was exonerated of nothing. You know what I'm saying? So the the Miller thing is interesting because and I'd said this on his podcast. You know for for a while now, but I didn't believe that there was collusion for a second. But the reason why was thing about like this, right? Think about if you're Robert Mueller, and the idea that you're investigating is whether Donald Trump is essentially a an operative of Russia an operative a foreign power, right? So you're investigating the shit for what a year and a half two years. During this year and a half two years. Donald Trump could be doing irreparable damage to the world to America's standing in the world and to the future of America. In terms of pulling at us Syria in all these other strategic moves that could potentially help Russia and cripple American terms more influence, if you're Robert Mueller, and you thought even for a second. That it was possible that Trump was actually a Russian operative. They get them on the fuck out of there and investigate bright. But my point is like the second, you smelled the sauce. Awesome smoke as a big fire. You gotta get outta here because he's handing over the Middle East to Russia might have been smoking. They might not find a fight. He was looking for. I guess what I'm saying is the stakes are so high that if there was a little smoke, you talk to some people, right? You're gonna lease go guys. You gotta handle this ship. Because if I keep on going for two years on this America's standing in the world could forever be changed. The still might be. I might I feel like they knew the whole time that wasn't the case. And he went through the investigation because you have to but I feel nothing Ronin investigating. No, this is my thing. I don't have any problem with due process. That's what we're supposed to have Mr. Korda public opinions out there, but you're supposed to have due process. She does not supposed to be trying to go to public opinion. Make sure it's real because this was trying to quarter public. Right. This was all these people going on CNN every single day. And there's all these people tweeting every single day he's a Russian operative like we're talking about x Ray an FBI folks saying he's a Russian operative like you're really tearing apart the fabric of America when you say the leader of the country is a Russian operative free. I it could be quite possible. Donald Trump nothing about this. It could be quite possible that Russians did infiltrate the twenty sixteen election, which has been really did that doesn't mean he might not know shit. Would you tell that motherfucker told them about UFO jet? Absolutely goddamn, not. 'cause they know he would tweet about this a certain situ cannot tell him. I would not make him privy to a lot of things because let's be for real is this the one thing we keep forgetting about Donald Trump. And I don't know why people don't realize this shit. He's not from that Ilbo. Y'all y'all could talk about the presidency. All you want that shit as a fraternity as a coat, it's a certain kind of cloth that all those presidents are. Cut from. He is not from that ilk. Right. And they know it they're not giving them all of that shit, man. Yeah. They can't give him an area fifty one. They not putting them onto that. Now. You can't. No, no, you can't you can't give him access to everything. But who decides who decides what the president gets to know? That's fucking crazy. The Powell Debbie that we don't see. The people that really make this mother fucking world. Then who puts them in charge detector. The third. Real. Tuck intended, you know, I don't know. I listen to this the mortar store the Justice and Trump shit both of them just need to shut the fuck up of right? When it comes to all of this shit. If I'm Donald Trump. I'm never talking about collusion with Russia if I'm fucking jussie smollet. I'm never talking about collusion with Nigerians. I'm not talking about this shit. No more, and I'm gonna tell you why the more they motherfucking talk. They both sound like they fucking lying jussie shouldn't say shit about this anymore. You know, what you do now? Hey trump. No collusion. Cool. Yeah. Jesse charges? Got dropped. They say didn't you nut and cool. Let the court of public opinion, Duke, it out to let the court of public opinion, Duke it out 'cause that's all we can do from this point on all we can do if you like, nah, he colluded now I didn't collude now he fakes hope he didn't. He didn't take the hoax. All we can do it. This point don't give anybody any more ammo to finally figure you the fuck out sealed boom on sale kit at the foot long. Fuck dude. If you're somebody who hates jesse's Molyneaux like your next boy. Friend who's you know, heart was broken by him. Now is the time to beat them up. Right. Because no one's gonna believe it. Wow. If you. If you. Physically. No. With a maga- hat on and a nuisance and bleach. You'd think he's really Jesse is really the boy who cried wolf at this point that's already morning shots. Jesse right fucked up, and actually if you're black it works even better if he goes to please now goes honestly seriously this time two black guys maga- hats on. No, keep it the fuck moving son, right? Free shots. Yes. Fucked up, man. Fucked up was this. Oh, yes. Lotta joins you don't see himself casting white, dude. If the lead in his movie, I don't blame them. They wouldn't be as fun. Let's he does the same way. He's putting black people in roles. He had to put a white person in a rolling who's that? Who's John pills? I'm saying about what put him in a row they've never seen before. That's what he said. I read that out early. He was like I've seen white guys play everything. Like, what could I what could I position a white man that we've never seen? Yeah. Them boku character. The Winston do character. We've seen that white guy. Tons. Yeah. Right. We see that white guy. Con is better when it's blogger 'cause it's no mobile. It's important Shoah washed black dude, but we were ninety percent of a washed, but you don't act like it. And there's not a space for you to have that. And the second you do second you show up to burgers washing. They take a picture. They. Oh shit look at Charlotte. How many it was? So funny doesn't mean I happily you what you do. Bruins. Get ahead of the story. Like you wear the same Hanes cert-, but you'll be like all my shirt to target. And then it'd be like, oh, he said already do. Nothing is. But like you get ahead of the store. You think I need? Explain my outfits. I come here. Dress like a fucking kaleidoscope every week and. You had you had a moment where you was explaining your sneaker game. They was on your ass on fucking one perjury. Ooh. Are member that we'd like it was yesterday. Somebody came in Andrew Shue, Andrew like come on, bro. Did you say? Like long grow only got one pair Jones missile sleigh. That's it was fucked up. I feel like we didn't put a button on the Cardi B all the people too. But Pete boot would vote. Talk to me about on it. No. I'm just saying I listened month is I think Cardi was dead wrong. Right. But once again, it's hard to have a selective morality. When it comes to hop 'cause a lot actually especially that job. Yeah. 'cause we most of these guys from the street. So I'm like, yeah. When you hear a guy in the interview talking about killing somebody when you hear guy, and if you talking about doing a home invasion when you hit guide, and if you're talking about, you know, robbing people for drugs killing people for drugs like. That's a sensually. What she did. I don't I don't like in what she did the fucking Bill. Cosby also shouldn't even really rob him. She just she didn't she like overcharged. Oh, no. No. No. No, no. She said choose to drug in rob. No. I know. But like they were already going to pay for pussy, right? And she just took a little more. So we don't even know if they would have tipped. Yeah. The clip that circulate night, they got another clip on. And I remember this video. 'cause in context you're talking about what she would do if she caught her man cheating. Right. And she said she would drug him and do a threesome with her in a transient. Offset. No world offset did cheat. No afraid not. But didn't he wasn't that? The big issue lives in a in a perfect world. All bring him back seat. Oh. Coming back going back twenty. You're you're you're gonna see if you can get a girl just the teen on. I'm gonna get a girl cheat on a man. You know, why because we should. We got to bring back. She in bro. Y'all people don't realize this like this is how this how selfish women are men because I was thinking about this, right? Like, you'll you'll date a girl, right? This back in the day when you were damn back way back in. But when you had a whole head of hair, you must've been cheating Balat enough. God humbled. My. Love who loves me when I don't have a haircut right in the middle of my mother like this does almost spend the rest of my life. Okay. Stephen, charlotte. I'm telling you got Steven oh, definitely got him. A word. I'm sitting in a minute. Shitting get I to do that though. I got some other flash that. Okay. So back to this cheating thing. Right. So we're dating a girl. Right. Dana girl k. I don't put any rules on her. She doesn't put any rules on me. 'cause she doesn't know she likes me yet. The second. You taylor. Let's say we're getting the second. You realize that you like me you say to me. Hey, we should stop fucking other people. Why? I got to suffer because you like me. Also, if you don't like her different what you got to let her know what you stand or you. You gotta let her know like let her know because she decided to like, I should tell you. I I'm not into you gotta love to sex kicking. What you, but I'm not really the type that wants to be with a girl. And then you get upset at me. But you're upset at me because you like me that's how my, but you gotta keep it one hundred with her. And I don't like you the way you like we only got to keep it one hundred once they start liking us. We don't want to keep it one hundred before that it's quite know before that we just date, and nobody asked anybody anything the second y'all start liking now, I gotta stop. First of all go could win women. Get on the mic. That's what Volpi off can single. Okay. Is insane goal ride. You'll pay so much. It was going to get dick the other night. You did say that you said you are going to get dick on Instagram live three thousand people watching. Okay. Top live. Always have my little boy, we're going to get dick at the same time. That's what I said. And then you said he only hits from the bag. I did say you ask me of you only hits. Know what if you only hit from vac, Charlene, tell your boyfriend's gay? Your boyfriend's gay. No, I said these shows. No, you said you said, he's McGill. Miguel is gay. Miguel is not gay. Okay. Warren's gay the point is the point is why is it that you decide when we're both faithful. Why is it is not a girl is decision. A lot of guys will say that you would be girl. Bob law to are. You acting like it's. Hold on hold on. Hold on this little crazy. You out there to ruble, taking picture your Tampa strain because some guys white too. The owner Ruben. So many guys wanna flew her out. Okay. Girls are crazy this why didn't need to get teetered on. I two thousand nineteen we're bringing back. This is the first time a see Chris mal all day. Mile all ready to cheek Chris ain't get no cheeks in a minute. What if some new to kill your limes you? I'm never gonna get some limited. Right. Okay. The point. Now, you are now just because you know, guys ever say, no girl, we should be together that never happened in life. No. That ain't true. True. You got a lot of guys who get with a girl, and they like her they really wanna have their cake and eat it too. But they wanna lock this woman. They wanna lock down. They tell you what you wanna hear. So like, yeah, it'd be my girl wants to be my girl yada, yada, yada. And that's when you end up in a whole bunch of mother, those are suckers, Kevin hunter. Kevin kevin. Yeah. We're talking about real suckers lame lames do that. If you want a real lame ass sucker, then you do that. So Xiaomi also got married. So was he a love my wife twenty while? Hey, but you're talking about his wife. Girls. Taylor Taylor brings up a good point. Okay. I got married, but think about what I had to tell my side chicks who like me like now. Ever think about this is like? I got plenty of wanted to be with me. I had to give him the Heisman. No, I got a wife put jeopardize my life. Right. Claimed her as your girl, right? Yes. So you're in a relationship because she decided the fidelity decided to make it. That's not true feelings, it was a neutral feel but I can sleep with you. Okay. Right while you're dating other people. I'm okay with that girls. After name I will throw this fucking month. I don't like you. You know, generalizing all women is horse. All right. Yeah. Don't do that. You are under say you generalize about hordes by making statements. Don't have the feeling does not girls. And we have to comedy those feelings always all feeling is all that dog down for two hours. Yeah. No, man. Would hold a dog. 'cause y'all have feelings you have motion you care about that little motherfucker. I would not you got that dog because you don't gotta man you just distract your board needs some take care of. Okay. You'll have someone forcing book and pedigree and a little bowl for this. Okay. Only. That's what these dogs are babysitting. This is how many women are they get dog small enough to fit in the person could carry around all day in case there fucking needy whenever they need company whenever within when they said that text out what you're doing tonight. And the message is like is about to come in and never come for hours. It is route dolls petting the them. Get this docile you have. Dots. Little dogs are just practice. Practice for cats. The day way drew little dove are gateway drug the fucking catch. You. Hatley real Torey is coming you one more Rupa trip away. One more one lonely over true. True. Okay. The next time. You're gonna rule only Tampa was very. And the ruble right now offset is twenty nineteen. We bring a team back, man. She got a. Percival hoagies STD's. What do you mean? I wanna Brumby cheaters whack on. I'm not gonna lie to each eating his wacko. I'm beyond the I'm, bro. I've been on both sides man, Heather, bro. I've been above ground and below ground man, sheeting his wack, bro. Not cheating. It's too stressful. I'm not seeing what? But she is back is what role first of all. Well, that's the thing. This what you say you're in. Okay. You never admit to. Okay. You just do to gotta do. And when you're cheating on me saying, no, that's the disrespect. The disrespect is admitting to the girl that your. Yes, it is. That's why this special you gotta have you gotta have a little side situation. Don't you know, I get say, they know don't let them know getting caught. You can't tell everybody about every it's not the cheating this to getting caught. Two thousand eighteen we not getting caught we bring it back knocking could be. I was the best way way to the best way to not get caught the nutty. I'm telling you cheating wack, bro. Is like everybody do when you're young when you're in. When you're in your mother fucking twenty. Yes, man to scramble man little when you're old to just to feel it out and just to keep it up heart. I lost hard to do it really hard to do it. No more. I don't have the heart. I couldn't do it in the way. But it I don't have the heart. Eat me up. You know, what I'm saying anxiety would eat me feeling fucked up. I feel like a hypocrite when I yell Ed like men does. You know what I'm saying? Feels good not. And they don't do it. And don't do over. You know, it feels really good. No. It hasn't been looking Chris. Outcries here. See when I look at Chris, you think Chris Oldham new sneakers and boots because he wanted. Chris here cheat. He's not die unhappy with Entergy. Yo yo and unhappy Chris getting all the lines jerked out his dick that same place. Robert Kraft went to Chris pitchy. Your name on that list? Chris. Oh. F J K Rowling in Christmas. Low quit robe during a massage man. Bought into child her child. Whatever the fuck, it isn't sometimes you gotta fucking block. You your soccer is cloudy. You gotta block on blocking. In their star game wax to baby shark. Bro. Chris you will you say you want a nice masseuse give you a little massage then pump that baby. So she no daddy. I don't know getting Masada happy in the sheet not cheating. K dependable country. Illegal. How's it different? What country you can go to another country and get illegally done. Right. Chris. I don't fucking know. Now. Fuck. Hey, all excursions. He took days by itself you say shit. What is it where are you from Taiwan every year every year you Taiwan every year? And you're not sure if you could get over the food. Exactly. All right talk about this shit. Get the fuck outta here. Come on shark. Let's play some building. Let's come back and talk about what sheeting is really wack. Okay. Well, we gotta talk about Macari Macari. You got a bunch of stuff laying around the house. Man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I do. Well, if you got some maybe some jeans worn once a phone hiding in a drawer with all your old side chick numbers. No don't have those anymore. Got rid of that. Search. You should have done it sold it on Macari at you know, because you could still all this stuff in a Macari app. They make fasten easy to sell. You could sell literally almost anything. Take a few pictures stuff added description, boom, you're item is listed once it sold. Macari emails. You a shipping label, and then you just set it off. That's right. They Email you the shipping. Ladle no hassles. Okay. 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You know, the reason I don't even Rockwood Wendy and Kevin anymore because it's your in. Serena was the homey homey from Columbia, South Carolina. Eight three nine introduced Kev, you know, back in the day. And the reason we fell out. Is because we was in Jamaica one time, right? And when we was all in Jamaica, WB L S night's work Violettes for Wendy was the WB L S getaway. We're all. Jamaica me, Wendy, you know, fluids low fluids fluids is mistress out. You know what I'm saying? This is years ago. He's had to be like, oh, eight cath has his mistress out there with his wife J A. Yeah. Is Wendy aware this no not at the time? I don't think so not that. I know of I'm saying, but long story short, you know, she wanted to get with wax, right? His mistress wanted to get with wax later on down the line. He got mad at me because he said that I was trying to hook wax and Serena to when I say that he's a legendary sucker on some legendary suckers shit. The reason we fell out is because of his mistress now mind you at the time, you might have known this girl, maybe a year. You know, what I'm saying man, you rocket for like three or four years. You might have known this girl for maybe a year. And you say fuck him because you think I'm trying to hook her up with my man when reality is she just liked him. Like, so that's why anybody ever wants to know why me when Kevin hundred up with each other is because of that now Wendy other noticed. So when Wendy gets on Elvis Duran show and Wendy says who in reference to me. When my name like who is that people? I don't know. I can't even be mad at Wendy. Because I don't know what the fuck he told Wendy. He went to Wendy and said, you're you're trying to hook up, you know, my side chick with his man. Yo, you know, we don't fuck with him. No more. You didn't go to her and say that. So it's no telling what he said the her. So all these years. Yes, Wendy has been hating you potentially under false pretense that you don't even know. Absolutely because it has scumbag, Kevin absolutely at one an insecure guy. Yes, he is. So you invite your site check to this resort. I guess it is while you, oh hedonist only one. A one or two. I don't remember and your wife is there. Yes. And Europe set your side chick wants to get side. Dick, see that super insecure Esam sucker ship. So that's why that's one that's one of the many reasons why I don't fuck with him. But I just you know, I just think it's important to put that out there. So you, you know, what type of dude you dealing with like he's awesome legendary sucker ship ends down saying 'cause it's like, bro. That's not your wife in any way, shape or form. And I wasn't even trying to hook her up with wax. They was on their own, right? You know what I'm saying? I need to. Hook up with a woman. Yeah. Yeah. I don't waxing. If anything you try to cocktail block on home to Kim. Fable? Fuck as you like them. Sean. I don't know about all that guy's a lame duck. But that's also a different type that's not the type of cheating. I was talking about that's complete disrespect cheating. That's when you you go out there, and you get another girl pregnant, that's when you're doing your family dynamic is this is a real son of a bitch. Man. Let you let been with this one for over eleven years. Now, you know what I'm saying? And you know, it's getting her tails mind, you know, you've been with Serena for eleven years Wendy for twenty five. It's sad to watch Wendy in this situation because I feel like we're all just watching her fade to black. You know what I'm saying? I think that when you know, I keep saying in in different places. I'm like, oh, I hope Wendy Williams wakes up before she doesn't wake up because I feel like we're watching something that's not going to end. Well, you understand what I'm saying? And it's like you'll see a guy like this who, you know, first of all all ladies out there. Never trust the man. That's fifty years old who is full supreme outfits. No. We gotta really discuss this for a second. Okay. This guy had on supreme jeans with the big Asser prima logo. All over a supreme t shirt, that's prima cross the chest. The matching jagged supreme logos. All over it, also prima het and some timber than the American flag on both of its motherfucker. Looks like a race car. Fuck can you expect anything Trump a person like this like ladies seriously? If the guy is fifty years old, and he's got clothes that have big logos. All over him. He either just got out of prison. Right. Are are. He's just not aware of the climate of the era that we're in right because we don't do that anymore. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, he's out of touch you went to Philadelphia allegedly to have a baby because you wanted to escape the media. It's two thousand nineteen you fucking. There's no such thing as a stapling or Finland the media. You guys got country. I'll get a Dula what the fuck shit called. Oh, hey, Dula the house. The thought that you could get some fucking privacy in Philadelphia. You like Argenteuil seriously? How stupid are you? Yeah. How are you? Yeah. So it's just disappointing the watchman because like, you know, I I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't think Wendy deserves. I can't you know, I'm not here to say what a person deserves. You know what I'm saying? I just don't like to see it play out like this because it gives me it gives me bad vibes. And it reminds me of of why I don't want to put my wife through anything like that. You know what I'm saying? In in one of the reasons that I stop being a mother fucking dirtbag because I've seen so many relationships like that. Yeah. In like that where the wife gets to life, subbed out of her it doesn't recover seen that a million motherfucking time. Yeah. So it's like, you're right now, you're you're you're you're ruining this is women's life. You're literally ruining your mother fucking wife's life, right right now, sucking the life out of her and fucking up your bread and butter. Yeah. Wendy is. Right. This is be your bread and butter. He does nothing outside. No, no fucking. Gill set. Right. None zero zilch. Not a why why is Wendy still l- attach them? What I have no idea. I'll be totally honest. I really don't. I haven't. I have no idea. That's not even that's not even my place to even say, I don't know why she's in the situation that she's in. I just know that motherfucker is a sucker and in a lot of different ways. And and trust me. It's a lot more mother fucking calm. 'cause I keep telling ya. I know what you did last summer Calvin who are you Phillip Jordan Daniel story ensuring a Hudson, aka Nikki, I know, which I did last summer and one thing that you can't escape is karma. And by the way, this is just another lesson for me when it comes to calm, a treat people. Good, man. Yes. Say what the fuck you want about Charlemagne Charlemagne treats, people good. I go out of my way to treat people. Good because I understand how does she can come back to you. I'm not a motherfucker who's not self aware. That motherfucker lacks self-awareness. I know he lacked self awareness because it has the Primo fit. Also, no, he lacks self awareness because you took your girl to Philly to try to keep the media to have a home of the fucking baby. You can't even fucking keep up with the life that you create for yourself. You can't even keep up with the life. That you created for yourself is nothing. You can do scape com. Kelvin nothing when I say, nothing nothing. Really, oh, you're gonna take all these really he has more coming. What more coming? He came. We can we divulge anything. Is there a little bit of something? We can. I mean, I don't think it's no reason to for me to be not Saddam in this situation. I say everybody just sit back and watch the play. I saw anybody in there. Several acts to this play. You're saying. Several ex several eggs. I actually think that we're in the final now. So you think this will be the end. I don't think it's going. Well, if something doesn't change immediately. You know what I'm saying? And that's my concern. I want somebody that really cares for Wendy to intervene in a big way. Because I feel like if you just sit back in, you know, you watch, you know, abuse happen. Whether it's emotionally whether it's mentally you're physically your neighboring it. Fuck how you feel about her like, I'm the type person other side as much as I may laugh about it. I don't feel good don't make you feel good to see people doing bad. I just sit back and look at this motherfucker like you stupid. Fuck you did this yourself because you made a choice to be a fucked up individual, right and not energy is coming back to you. And you gotta live with that. You know what I'm saying? You gotta eat that. And I'm Vinci put in the movie and get paid teen. Put it in the book and get paid. I don't know what to do with the information yet. If it if it if it doesn't all unfold, but it's all unfolding now. Like all of this that you see right now been there done that saw it a million times. This is a rerun. This is new is a mother fucking rerun to me. I was there from the mother fucking beginning, you know. And if it's if it's one person on his planet who are probably truly honestly don't fuck with in no way, shape or form. He's definitely one of hilly. Yeah. Fuck with Kelvin hunter at all like not even a little bit. And I'm it's not I'm not even mad at him. I just don't fuck with them at all. So supreme hope I didn't mess up any money for your that. She just looks wack when it's all together on a fifty year old, man. Okay. What fuck is Abe when you need them. Because. These people up when surpreme shit. Interest in the watchman. But no for real, you know, pray for Wendy. If you want to write you know, what I'm saying. Like, I think it's a very bad situation that she's in. So what what is your relation with her? Now, I have zero zero have not I not have not talked to her since today. Kevin text Ma phone and said, I don't fuck what you anymore you disavow shit. I don't know what the fuck. You was talking about at the time that I learned that her own. Yeah. You know, what it was? So that's it within itself as lazy to me because you let a fucking you let you posed to be a New York. Temp type mother fucker you let a young girl from South Carolina, ruin your mother fucking life slow to South Carolina. God damnit eight four three eight three eight six fought this motherfucker, you let her take you for everything. So she took down Nikki took down the whole conglomerate, maybe I maybe I don't know. I don't I doubt it. I just like I said, it's not going. Well, it's not that. I just don't think it's gonna end. Well, that's just my personal prediction. I'm hoping for the other out. I'm hoping that somebody intervenes. You know, what I'm saying before it's too late. But I don't think it's going to end. Well, I just think that you out of the moral of the story is I don't fuck with Kelvin HANA. So what y'all know talk like this when it come right? This is new for me for me fuck with Kelvin on. I no way shape before form of tried to take my head off a few times in the past decade. Like, literally tried to take my mother fucking head off in ways that y'all don't even understand 'em forgot gotten a couple ceasing desist from my lawyer in his lifetime. Really? Oh, absent mother fucking Lutely abs- absent mother, fucking Lutely. But guess what time will reveal that in saying, this ain't no motherfucking sprint for me. You know, just let me know what I can do. How can we can't have people trying to take over your head? He can't take off my I'm blessed. I'm blessed. Black and highly favored, you know, what I'm saying. I know God moves into different way. He does does. I'm always protected by the whole Armagh God and unrighteousness will never be righteousness. I ain't no perfect motherfucker at all. But I ain't you. Okay. I got the whole on God on not the whole almost premium. Motherfucking difference. Okay. Unprotected by surpreme being right? All right. So whatever it'll all reveal itself shortly. That's all I can. That's all I can tell you. He got a lotta bullshit coming his way. And he knows it and he can sit around and try to escape it. What he can't. And that's the thing when you fuck it with somebody. That knows you. I know you have known you. Okay. For a long time. You was who you was before. I got here. I'm not who you think. I am. Right. God bless you. I wish you the best. Stop matching all your mother fucking close. You look like from Mississippi. No disrespect anybody in Mississippi. You just look like. Okay. Just look like you just look like all your people. Listen to this right now come on ride with you, man. Okay. Let me take you look like you look like soldier boy when he first came out. No seriously. You outta fuck. You fifty and dress like soldier boy when he's I came out you might as well put on a big motherfucking shades for Talvin heater on the motherfucking Lynn's. Like forgot is. God bless Kevin pay some bills. Let's pay some bills excited for the next few weeks. Guys. I think we're gonna have some fun. It's fun to watch fun to watch. I think when you're gonna take a break soon to really which means you already do. So you didn't get the fuck outta here. Let me see. Uh-huh. Sit the fuck outta here Taylor. Someone's predicted Wendy Williams, taking another break from talk show. There's a lot. Oh my God. The Wyndham show is taken a previously scheduled bring break height is get the fuck outta here. You just came back. Now, Kevin you Kelvin UPC's shit. You buy whatever you wrote in that woman's life. She just came back from three months because your dumb ass now you out here again, making her go take another mother fucking break. This is this is crazy. So she's completely whipped. By this guy. I have no fucking idea. Man. I really honestly true this shit. I should ain't playing come on. Tell us your name plan. You take a three month break. You lose your spring break that's playing these networks are like take more time off back. Go back to she'd been on air for ten years. Go back to pass ten years around this time every year scheduled spring break every every year around this time yet you take that break. Right. Those go back and see if she took that break with the past when wins the I don't take breaks. She doesn't take breaks come on man y'all, and that's the bad part about shit like this. It's like we're sitting back watching something crumble. And it's like is right there under our noses. We're looking right at her most people missing because you seem to know more about the situation than they do. Maybe that's why they're neighboring it. Like the average Wendy Williams fan probably has no clue about their dynamic obvious abuse. We see physical. Listen, I'm that that that that that that is what they say. Right. You know, I'm not I'm not in pictures of bruises and shit. I've. I'm not going to vote things that I've seen quite yet. Right. But definitely emotional. Definitely verbal you know, what I'm saying. Definitely mental. Right. I mean, I if you have a eleven year side, chick arrangement that now you have another family starting and you've emotionally manipulated an abused woman so much that not only she staying with you and with that. But also continuing to pay you money. Partner like that is almost Stockholm syndrome. We're talking about like, you've kidnaps someone soul. Feels like yeah. I can't wait till next year when I can say that Rena Hudson is twelve years aside chick that joke ain't gonna ring off to a right now. By the time, actually, knowing that suck ass mother that hell make her the main who know who knows man anybody that matches the prima fits all the way from the top to the bottom and fifty years old never know what you can't predict they're fucking decision. Making hype bee's seriously fuck who person in this room? What do you think of people weighing matching supreme from head to toe? Coining colorful, timberlands the white woman saying that you. Wow. 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And doing half hour specials with him had all these comedians personally chosen by Tiffany. And she shares a history with all of them by working together. On the stand up seeing are in television shanty wayans, I feel like Sean to us to be on while enough. Yes, she did. She was right, April Macy, Tracy. Ashley Ida Rodriguez flame when row in Marlow Williams, and she's executive producer with Wanda Sykes page Hurwitz and it's coming out to she ready production. She said six of my favorite comedians. Get your money to fish feels like this stars soldier money. She's giving them an opportunity. I think that's dope. And I think that's actually kind of genius move by net flicks. Because it's like if you got at the time Monique giving that flits a lot of flax NF doesn't support. He no black female comedians that other paid him to kind of money that everybody else, you get you know, you do a deal with Tiffany. I don't need to have our own up special coming out on their fleets Gifty chance to empower some other celebrities catch your money tiff. I love her getting I love her getting money and signing deal. What this says to me is that Netflix has lost its value in in getting people to watch their specials are maybe they don't have our maybe they don't believe in their talent people. Well, so it's twofold, right? It's it's one they don't believe in their talent people into they've and because of that they've lost the equity that they have right? There was a time where if it for HBO, for example, anybody who came out in HBO special. We're watching B's we trust. Adt h. Right. So Netflix had that for a minute. It was like, oh, there's a new Netflix special. I'm watching then they put out so many specials, and the people didn't really like that much. So they're like, all right. Well, now, if it comes out on FOX, it doesn't it's not necessarily going to be a winner. I'm not gonna watch automatically. So they're they're move. The chess move is why don't we get someone that we know people love and people trust their decision making. And then say this person presents these specials, and it takes it takes the responsibility of to find the next door shit. He exhibited people like it to a Netflix, get credit. If you would like it all. Hundred. That's what that's why. I just don't. I just don't think that people watch specials like that. But I think it you have to do something to shake it up. Right. You have to go. And I think that Tiffany has more equity and like leverage in the business. Then Netflix right now in terms of interest. Like if you love Tiffany. And they're like Tiffany's like yell if you love me, you're gonna folk with my girl Aita, right? That makes sense. So it's an interesting move comedy central. Did this with Bill Burr, and I think it works. Yeah. So Bill bird produces special for comedy, central Hebrews. My boy Paul version specials. Really funny. It's all comedy central and he's producing a few more comedy central. Did it with Amy Schumer as well? Really? Yes. It was like all right. Nobody's watching herself. Why don't we let comedians have a big following cosign it because if they cosign it though, it's like I have this. I don't know if you'll companies have Cavs done a few. He did some LL ones that they're putting out. But yeah, man, everybody's freaking out. They're trying to they're trying to figure out a way to to like operate within the system because the system is changing so much, man. And I'm telling you like in the very near future. You're gonna see everybody putting their their specials out directly on YouTube. You're gonna see a big com- big big big big comic do it in the very near future. He did it out his website, and he pay pay he pay the pay for and that's smart because like when you're at the peak of your power, you're not trying to get new fans, you might as well just own why you wouldn't put them onto pay wall on YouTube YouTube premium you can pay for they stop that. Now, they're just giving all the content away. Do YouTube is fucking, bro. It's over for everyone else. His of the so YouTube has this show Kover KYW which like the new karate kid. It was actually really good and they did a first season behind the pay wall. Now YouTube the pay while they keep producing this high level content available. Whenever. It's a wrap. And also, I mean, maybe there's an off air conversation. Yeah. Let's have this conversation. But like we happen to know pretty well. The the the person who's the head of YouTube scripted. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about over. So, but I'm saying is it's a very interesting time in and everybody's trying to everybody's trying to catch up especially in stand up because the the business has been, you know, incredibly disrupted, and, you know, whether I take credit for that or get credit for that history will decide, but you're seeing a lot of these businesses really start to freak the fuck out. And you're seeing a lot of comics empower themselves. You're seeing a lot of comic start to build fan bases without the traditional, you know, without the traditional model is pretty cool. It's pretty cool seaman as great time to be a creator, a great time to be a creative, man. So listen, thank you for joining. The Bruin idiots this week. We really really appreciate show. We hope you motherfucking enjoyed it. If you didn't. Well, you must be new here. You know what I'm saying? You know, what I'm saying somebody heights you up, and you can't me is like. Hourly fuck with the way that they thought, but thank you. 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