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Anxious Man

Mentally Yours

21:54 min | 5 months ago

Anxious Man

"I think if you pay corrupt my family history Logunov. You'll see quite a lot of mainly on diagnosed them's with the Times but sort of mental health problems and then so I think probably underlying focus on your mental regrets mentally enter the mentally a hobby one and welcome to mentally yours. My Name's Yvette. And this week I'm going to be chatting to just Roberts is speaker on mental health and he's also the author of a new book which is called anxious man. I'm going to be chatting to him about all things panic attacks anxiety and CBT. Josh Robert Welcome to mental. Your hello thank you for having me so we're GONNA be talking about anxiety today. Quite an in depth I will. When did you first start experiencing anxiety yourself will so in a major way It really started me the morning after. I'VE BEEN TO A PARTY. So sounds quite unlikely. But prior to that I suppose it'd been nervous ish child but I'd never been I'd never had like maybe tiny panic attack so what you would associate with what I would now identifies a panic attack but really for me. It was kind of always completely final. Seemingly fine went to a party wake up the next morning and everything had kind of collapsed. The any idea what triggered that I didn't know I think it's a combination of genetic factors so I think if you poke around my family history. Logunov you'll see a lot of on diagnosed condemns with the Times but sort of mental health problems and then so I think it's probably sort of underlying and then yeah. I was sort of conference of lots of different things out of state in a job that I wasn't particularly joying maybe too long. I wasn't exercising. Tula losing a lot not really sleeping and so I think I was probably already slightly predisposed and then the policy push me. How did yet she actually fail on that morning? You describe it. Yeah I mean it was like waking up into if you seen a movie where they kind of an actor or character wakes up startled and it. It was basically like that. Wake up into a panic attack and like I said had sort of miniature panic attack previously this what must just complete next level in terms of the intensity of it say panic attacks on that different for different people but for me it's like an intensely physical experience stomach knotted breath. You know very short heart pumping going nuts is dilated skinny sweaty clammy hall but called less sort of thing And then accompanying physical. Tara is a very singular mental one. Which is the idea that at some point. Olis' physical stuff with my body is going to become too much and I'm GonNa have a heart attack will will pass out and lots of people very common people. Think of panic attacks when they're in the most being heart attacks and th- reality is thankfully whilst that terrifying No one started a panic attack yet so it was extremely intense and long so usually panic attack could last for thirty seconds minutes when I'd had these little tremors before this one was three or four hours. Oh my goodness yeah. It was really intense and it was sort of. Come maybe it would subside fractionally and then it would you know. Sort of new wave would come would sort of appear see. It was pretty grim. I went to I went obviously went to an e a bunch of times with three different times to the and Went to see two different. Nhs GP's this'll general prognosis and it's not their fault you know then. It just isn't at the moment setup to deal with problems like this but This sort of general prognosis that it was that it was a hangover. Gone wrong And you know the prescription was cup of tea and get a good night's sleep so think promos couldn't sleep so Five days after five days off the initial thing having badly slats and been in a constant state of panic I ended up going to To see a private GP just coughed up the cash and And he very quickly diagnosed me with a generalized anxiety disorder after that initial fairly long. Panic attack then manifest. Yes we moved. It went from being kind of immediate fear about dying to being an mall. Will generalize guess all pervasive fear of pretty much anything say the definition of a Generalized anxiety disorders will obviously worry about forget anything so things like getting fired or getting dumped to Get a whole bunch of really. Would they call sensory motor stuff so I worry about forgetting to breathe or not being able to swallow or being constantly live to the rhythm of blinking and things like that so you have those initial worries and then what you do? Is You worry about those worries. This is slightly difficult concept to grasp. But it's the idea that your normal people might worry about. Not Sleeping Normal. Invited comments people like me. Worry we'll spend our whole lives worrying about not sleeping. Does that make sense? It's like a second order. Almost derivative of the original worry and then the third thing is guilt. Say you find this with people who suffer from anxiety disorders and depressive conditions. And things like that where you look at your life. And what on earth do I have to worry about? And of course the reality is nothing but it's a disease or disease but it's a condition something that exists outside of me and therefore it's not really my fault takes a while to get. How did you deal with everyday life through this? I would say in the in the initial I sort of five days a very badly so I was badly sleeping. I didn't see anyone So I I was couldn't sick to work. Actually that's not true. I did go in occasionally but I would get their run into the Lou after a few minutes. Run into the losing sort of burst into tears. Kind of thing and then make excuses shuffle. It stayed really bad for me for about a year and so after a couple of weeks I started to develop. I don't K- ping mechanisms but ways of seeming fine externally whilst crumbling entirely and so. It's something I talk about quite a lot in the book. Is this idea that you really can be fine. Externally and be disintegrating internally and lots of friends of sets me having read the book. I feel terrible that we didn't know we couldn't spots or didn't realize it was as bad as it was. You know you said you had a problem but it was. It was as bad as it was. And the answer is not not an partly consciously. You're trying to cover covered up because you don't want to be have a problem. You know wants to be problem but also because actually It that's just the nature of it. Is You know. Come for me. At least it's very real duality to it And so yes in your question Obviously a bit of a mess for the first couple of weeks and then after that I think I started to get better. It are the disguising it or living with. When did you decide? You want to shad this sort of writing about intending people about it. I was always really chatty about it and I think that is slow maybe slightly old for particularly blokes to to be open about it in a way. I was lucky it was as bad as as walls because I had to. I didn't have an option. You know when you will spending an hour of every day at work in the lose crying You'll boss get slightly suspicious. You know either. You've got a bowel complaint or a cocaine addiction or something that means you against the latest much and so eventually I had to. I I started talking about it with people and once you've said it once again it's just my experience but once spoken about it once it gets each time you did it gets easier and easier and then. I the writing of the book came. I had been talking to a friend. Who's a journalist so I used to work in advertising and I was talking to a journalist at the same newspaper and he'd had a similar problem to me and he suggested. Oh you should you should write about. This wasn't something I'd really considered but I pitched it to see to the Times newspaper. He published the article and we just had this incredible reaction to it so too. I mean hundreds of messages from people around the world and on the back of that someone else to a book so called anxious man at what you cover on it. We talk about all sorts. So it's kind of rooted in my own experience. I hope that it's funny book. So they're all jake's which isn't necessarily the most obvious is doesn't obviously make a A sort of topic will vector for telling jokes but it is humorous. But it's kind of starting from my own experience. What's it like to live through the moment that I described earlier? Where you wake up to realize that your mind has collapsed. What's it like to experience? full-scale disintegration of the mental faculty And then Haji about getting better and I'm convinced that the things that stop you from having one of these things in the first place are the same things that help you to get better and so. I hope that the book is of course helpful for people who've had this problem was similar problems. But if you haven't their lessons in there hopefully Would be helpful. We also look at interesting thing you know would pick around things like social media. We look at the new cycle and how that affects mental health. Sleep BLUES. Stuff about what? How did he pass me in terms of getting better? So I would say the the kind of anchor in me getting better and there's a number of different stages but primarily for me. It's been a combination of cognitive behavioral therapy Which doesn't what form but for me. It's just been incredible. Changing my relationship with alcohol completely. Say become a complete bowl. Well not a complete at that Aussie things like exercise Say fairly standard stuff I will say maybe in the most when you have a problem. That's as longtime or rather when you have a problem that is immediate is mine was like yours at the start. What was the trigger? You spend a whole lot of time trying to figure out okay. What's the exact thing that caused this problem? And actually I would say one of the key components of my own recovery is accepting the there may not be a particular trigger that this might just be completely random and once you've realized that you can let go of the search for the specific combination of things that make giving you anxiety and start to get better. I'm really thrilled at the mentioned cvt. Because we've mentioned a few times on the PODCAST Some people say some people some people it doesn't. Can you tell us a bit more about that what you actually do in that process and what kind of things have helped? Specific liaison program wasn't a fan. I was listening to the episode with him and he was saying he wasn't a fan. Cpt starts from the premise that our thoughts feelings and behaviors rule interconnected so if you have a negative or depressive or anxious thought that will give rise to anxious feelings in your body and then you may end up. You absorbing certain behaviors as a result of that. And then you'll mind takes the FI. The Exhibited the behaviors evidence that the thought is correct. And the the sort of leap goes on at the knock gets tighter and tighter. Ct is the idea that if you can arrest the thoughts before they develop into feelings and behaviors and challenge them with logic and evidence. What you actually very often find. Is that. The thoughts are completely illogical unproven by evidence and it really is at the start a very manual process of Gang Unite. Pops into your head. I'm useless piece of Shit and then you have to go wait a minute. What's the evidence? have an? I got some great friends with a really be hanging around with me if I was the ceaseless so have an I. I didn't I got a good job. Whatever it be an after a while okay said it becomes automatic. You still have the thoughts. The idea of C. B. T. Is Not to try to eliminate intrusive thoughts because well. That's just not possible but what you can do is change the way that you react to them the thing that I would say about. Cbt for me at least again. This isn't the same for everyone but for full blocks. When I speak two other men had this problem it it's particularly appealing because it is such a price such such a real process and I think that appeals to the sort of particularly male attitude of off. Go to problem that needs fixing. I've got a leak that needs mending. Or you know whatever it is because you write things down and you take notes and you have to practice certain things and and then after a while what you discover is the periods of convulsion become shorter and the distances between them grow longer and after a while east mortgage days and bad days. And then you serve you sort of fall into the trap of thinking you're cured. That's something bad happens in the United States back. But that's how that's it's worked for me. Can we talk a bit now about sort of men and mental health days? Because I think a lot more people talk about mental health these days and do but. Do you still think that it's harder for men to talk about mental health and have you had specific conversations with other guys you think of sort of particularly gendered. Yes so it's an interesting topic I would say It's obviously getting better Muppets like me wouldn't begin. Book deals if it wasn't we are starting to see. I think the effects of what happens at a sort of celebrity level. I think we're starting to see that trickle through one of the things so lucky enough to have Stephen Fry. Right the food for the book and he talks about that In his forward saying how we've had the first wave Prince Harry. Stephen Fry these kind of fakes and now Hopefully moving into the second way which is more more normal people. Naturally that starts with people from positions of privilege. Let my white middle class heterosexual the rest of it but hopefully after awhile that filters through the mail problem is is particularly interesting. The incidence rates are much higher amongst women than they are amongst men But for whatever reason men tend to end up killing ourselves at a much more alarming rate than women do. Why will it must be that? S- we react differently when we have one of these problems than women and I think a big part of that is not talking about it enough. I don't think it's all folks so we've had a good few hundred years of social conditioning. Which would suggest that as man this this kind of vulnerability virginity Isn't something that we should share. And actually if you look at the science that sort of medical history of this it goes back. Even further melancholy earlier. The hysteria the yield e depression and anxiety for centuries will consider to be you know tied to movements of the US. And 'cause mandate have uteruses. I don't think the quote me on that As a result of that you know men couldn't experience these problems. Women have had a thousand years of head. Start on talking about these things the first us but I do think things are changing. I think it's a really exciting time for mental health and I'm quietly confident that in ten years something else will be the biggest killer of Mellon to the age of forty five fifty. I think it's forty five forty minute yet over. Don't quote me. I'm pretty sure it's in the forties. Yeah what kind of advice would you give to guys in terms of supporting male friends who've gone through things like you've experienced so there's a question also is and sometimes it's meant asking about the friends that brothers with Dad's whatever but who say sometimes it scale friends? Mum's not sort of think. It is difficult because particularly when someone doesn't want to talk about something if they re resistance the idea of opening up Does Not know what you can do. You can be persistent. And he can be present and you could make sure that they know that if they want to open up the aura an ally in someone that that they can do that with. But you can't force someone to to open up one thing I would say and again these sweeping generalizations. But it's stuff that I I always recommend. People and again appeals to the the something about it going to see a doctor in the first instance not to a therapist not to a mental health nurse or something like that go and see someone with a white white coat and a stethoscope. And there's something about it being diagnosed as a real thing in the same breath as in the same way that they would diagnose cancer Hay Fever. X. Mo- whatever it is like A. You've got a problem that exists outside of you and here's how you can go and get help. I in my experience when I suggest that to other people that come back and said that was. The thing proved to be the turning point. Are there any things that friends could do? Family or girlfriends if a boyfriend has been experiencing a panic attack. It's difficult because the last thing you want to hear when you're depressed is to be told to cheer up and when you're anxious to be told not to worry but like I said no one is no one. No one dies have panic attacks scary the terrifying but also moments in time once you've experienced a few of them of been unlucky enough in my life to experience more than most once. You've had a few of them. You do gain a sense of objectivity where you can tell them having in a particular moment in time but this moment in time will pause I think it's to do all the basics of friendship. But really really well so you know beep assistant like I mentioned people with mental health problems. Whether or not the having a panic attack. Cool all notes Can Be Lousy friends. Were very changeable We can be laughing at a party and crying in the cabin the way home or we won't accident while I want to talk about it and then want to talk about it. Sip assistance is important. But it's just all the normal stuff tax people take introduce people to other people Take them to things You know my girlfriend is very good at telling me. She's very supportive and gives me in hogs on a neat then but she's also very good at saying William into the gym for two weeks. So what do you expect? Of course you're not going to be feeling as good as if you had. Let's go to the gym and sometimes it's a. It's a kind of combination of you. Tough love and love. Is there anything you'd like to add about anxiety or self in general old book well aside from suggest that people buy it which I really would recommend? This is by far the best book I've ever said it being my first book. No I guess we've been. We've been discussing today. I think the most important thing to recognize is that mental health problems doesn't matter if it's anxiety or depression or whatever all cancers of the mind so the longer you leave them the big they become an harder they become to operate on all or remove. So if you feel like you've been low for a longer than would be normal or if you've noticed a change in the behaviors or personality of a place friend or whatever get help and get help as quickly as you can I'm lucky like I said my problem was so bad. That within a week of it kicking off I was already kind of in a process of getting better And that's the second thing that I would just convert underlining put in bold is it always gets better so and it's always worth cracking on until it does because In a way not tree. I wish this had never happened to me. But in a way the sort of start relief of living through something this terrible makes you really appreciate and particularly enjoy when you don't have the condition and so always gets better and it's always worth waiting until it does Chose mentally ill. If you've been struggling with issues chatting about today please give the Samaritans a ring on one one. Six one two three you can also find the online at Samaritans Dot Org. You can find US online. We have a twitter account which is at mentally wire s and you can also join V. facebook group which is simply called Mentally Yours. See you next week.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital, One sabre card earned four percent cash back on dining and entertainment, two percent of grocery stores, and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. Cried passion than patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. We welcome you to Thursday. Glad you're here. And what are pretty interesting show? We have on tap, a lot of news from Omaha will, but later on news from the draft in Brooklyn in news from our neighborhood. It's a special draft edition of the finebaum show. Meanwhile, John Jennings suffers an injury in an off season workout, how many times have we seen this headline from Knoxville? What in the world is going on up there on rocky top. We'll get into that a little bit later on. Gus bus hoping to identify Auburn starting quarterback early in fall camp. Do you really believe it? I'm not sure I do. I think he wants the competition. This is talking season. What about tank in for two? Is that a good idea? Not really. I mean, I'm going to whisper this to nobody can hear but it's to really that good. I'm not gonna say that again. Anyway. Glad you're with us on a Thursday. You can tell we've gotten into the, the sauce. Little bit early today. Apparently, buddy Martin did as well buddy Martin, my good friend, one of my mentors came on the program, and did he upset. That's shared -able word to use the Georgia bulldog fan days. I have a funny feeling about Georgia this year. I just have a funny feeling that maybe all the pieces aren't there and Kirby has had a hiccup or too long way unquestionally if it's talent especially the offense of line Georgia's going to win. Now, I'm not predicting that house affordable be Georgia. They're going to be in the hot they can compete with Georgia to let's see Kirby can get it gone curves. Got some proven to go. Oh, oh man. Now, buddy. Come on, man. You know, really mean that you do. Tremendous reaction to what buddy had to say here anyway, I'm all variety getting some reaction to what I say about two, but we'll talk about that a little bit later on says hopefully most of you didn't hear it clay. His star is in Florida and you start us off clay. Good afternoon to nose. Knows y'all. Call speak to you about over use of the word greatest coach that implies a lot more than just winning a believe winning coaches like saving can crew improve as not a great coach goes. Well he did with the dolphins. Other coaches lie urban Meyer down straight. They're not. Perhaps you should consider a great coach be someone. Like, Eddie Robinson. Someone makes citizens out of his athletes, keeps them out of jail, stuff like that. You don't want me. Well, we'll let let me let me kind of come at there's a different different couple of different ways. I had the honor and privilege in my very first job to cover Eddie Robinson. And to this day, many, many years later, he still has. Has a profound influence on me because I think he is one of the greatest coaches of all time. However, I'm not sure I really followed your line of thinking on Nick Sabin to say that he is not a great coach because he spent two years with the Miami Dolphins. I mean please explain show refer to some of his misconduct here, not as one loss Bricker that the dolphin it's they're a mess and we all know and they've been a minutes, but hey stepped overboard. It was having us stroke. And he looked at six million of us in south Florida and told us, he's coming by for the next year. The coach doll. No, no, no, no. He didn't. He wasn't going. Now Bama, he said, if you're gonna listen I followed it pretty closely. You can imagine yester-, he, he, he responded to the question if you if you're, if you're going to if you're trying to get me to say, I'm not going to. Go down to Bama. I'm not going to Alabama. That's all he said. Yes. That's correct. Well, their plans warming up, but I don't know. Let's quite let me let I try not to play. Can you top this? Are you? How familiar are you are? Are you with the Nick Sabin leaving Miami story? Well, I'll tell you I'm back overseas just before he got here. So I followed him coming here. I'm not trying to say that I know more than you do. But I covered that story on, on a minute to minute basis, not only that I've spoken to Nick Sabin countless times about that. So I, I'll I'm trying to suggest to you is I don't think that's a winning argument to try to make a big deal about Nick Sabin in Miami. It's well documented why he left his wife wanted him to leave? I think deep down saving liked it there and felt like he was going to be successful, but his wife wanted out. He chose to leave after two years. And I think what he's done at Alabama speaks for itself. Don't you? He's certainly a, a winning coach. We weighty. I don't mean to stutter here, but I winning. Coach is definitely a linen toast. But what makes you a great coach? Look, look, it over in my one of bunch of games everywhere. He went. Yeah. And in his last championship game, which was perhaps, oh nine or so he had of twenty two starters those like nineteen minute up being convicted of some crime. You. Listen, I, I, I. His last championship game was in. Two thousand fifteen when he beat Oregon for the national championship at Ohio State. I stand corrected owns that I was afraid to him at Florida. It's just a matter of the overuse, the time. Let's keep let's be factual here. Okay. Of his last national championship team in Florida as it as it stands only one player on that team has been convicted of murder now one another one has been charged, so it's and countless others have been in trouble. But I mean, ultimately are you going to blame urban Meyer for every one of those players getting in trouble? No-blame goes to say when or anyone, I'm just coming about overuse of what? Because I don't think we're getting very far in this in this conversation. What, what is there about Nick Sabin that bothers you? The most the most is while a young large human was laying on the on the deck, and locker room how I hate stroke. He's, he's stepped over and pretended or claim that he did not know it was having a. Hey stroke. Well, that's fine. Who would you help me remember who we're talking about here? Oh, jeez. Us been eighteen sixteen years or so. You don't remember the name I can barely remember his name. Okay. And, and have all. And all the things that bother you the most about Nick Sabin. Some guys sixteen years ago, whose name, you don't remember that, that is your exhibit A in this argument. No, no, it's just real. I'm this, please. I'll finish it right now. It's just demonstration character as a wonder you've probably pretty good bye guy with his family, but it's not him. But I thought about it over use of the term greatest coach. Okay. Lord of mercy coaches should be. Really going to very long. If you had to tell me college football, your, your your, your list, your five greatest coaches of all time, who would they start with Eddie Robinson, and after that, it gets into the era, but I, I didn't ask a manifesto here. I just asked you for five names. I don't believe I could give you five without less sitting down and talking about. Okay. By the way, I apologize for hitting you with them like pop quiz, there that you weren't prepared for it would really be tough for any fan of college football too. You know, throw five or six names out like Newt rock near bear. Brian, or Nick Sabin or frankly. Hey, or bud Wilkinson Joe paternal? I mean, it would Dan Mullen, it would really be tough to come up with five nine listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's get some calls here. Let's, let's lab in this place up. Greg is next from Athens Alabama. Hey, paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Hey, you remember are you familiar with John Stuart mill? The loss for keep telling. He said when he said, once that he only knows his own side of the case knows little of that, right? Man. I think clay is a disciple of John Stewart Mills. And he called the prove that too. That's why he called it wasn't that he was offended by something that happened sixteen years ago that he can hardly remember. It's just that, you know, when you call in and make a grand statement like that, it's my hope it's my fervent hope that you can back something up. This guy couldn't back up his own name. He he, he, he honestly had too much free time on his hands fall and didn't know what to do. So that's a problem. I think he downloaded the, the best of Mark from Newton mass tape, which is now available. And, and I think he got a little kid, computer. But listen, I, I don't mind anyone saying anything here, and I think, as you heard me, I tried to, to get something out of them. I tried to make it a meaningful. Call for everyone. Oh, you always give every caller the opportunity to right the ship, whether they can do it or not, correct. Well, the goal here isn't to here isn't for me to pontiff Kate for four hours for the audience participate. But he, he just I think he had something else under skin. And he was looking at an Sports Illustrated and decided he was going to call the, by the way, there was an incident with, with Nick Sabin that has been rehashed time and time again. It was about a practice and I'm not going to go through the story because I do vaguely, remember it. And I don't know the truth or not. I really know but to dredge up story that nix that Nick Sabin had in two thousand and five I'm not sure how that is germane to anything to day. No. And if we're going to stick to anecdotes, I mean, if you wanna talk to any, as former players, they speak rather highly personally do not just as a coach. So, so, you know, only with this, and you can pass this along Richard later when he calls and wants to participate about my lectures, is that, you know, opinion is the middle ground between knowledge and Ignacio once. So when Richard calls ask him, what his senior year was, like when the Cuban missile crisis was going on. Wow. Because that'd be an interesting story. Now, would I Greg really good point? Thank you. Always good to hear from you. Thank you. Thank you very much. We'll take a deep breath. Jerry is up next in South Carolina. Hello, jerry. Hey Paul, you doing time caller longtime fan thinking so much. All right now, I'm gonna tell you my little bit of history. I was born in Pennsylvania, moved to a high L A longtime big ten Sen. from Ohio State, and I completely destroyed my hope for them. First of all, Penn State. They had a little bit of problems. Didn't they? Oh, cheese. Then you've got urban buyers. And then you had trestle in my sons, graduated from Youngstown, Ohio. More trustful out is living a good life as some kind of, I don't know what he is up there, but his wife runs a high state might sons, graduated from there, I came south in twenty five years ago, I lost my first wife up and all. From cancer, and I came south and I married a beautiful girl from South Carolina in Columbia, and she was a game cop fan, and we had tickets season-ticket I seen the greatest SEC teams play for twenty five years when LSU was nothing and there's something I seem great things, and what I want to say about the SEC and everybody better, listen about this. It's the strongest. The whole strongest conference because football, which I played in high school and had a couple of offers from the my when I was young kid, but anyway, it doesn't matter where I'm trying to say is when it's a matter of attrition when you have two boxers in a ring fighting and then it Trish in counts for everything. The SEC is the strongest and they actually attrition means everybody because is the last man standing now take the ACC nothing. I mean. The ACC come walk through the whole save and say here we are we're undefeated, we're great. All right now, you may have to be some bin Laden and diet through ks and everything. Okay. But you're not the SEC when you walk into that stadium, down here, you probably have no injuries. Nothing. That's why I love the SEC and I burned my hat from Ohio State every any kind of buddy calls from Ohio State and says, urban Myers trestle the we'd love him. There's nothing wrong. There's something wrong up there, because when I burn my Ohio State hat. There's a big problem. All right, Paul. I'm sorry. That's it. Thank you very much here, you, Dan with that. Good. Get. I Pol I, I had I was ordering groceries online, there Ron is up next from Texas. Hello, ron. Oh, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. The first thing I've got today is in opposition to Jim from Tuscaloosa, your show is great your path is great. And I know you know, it I know there's a lot of tongue in cheek with him when you're talking doing. The second thing is. These teams fan, bases Florida and Texas. They keep calling saying Florida's back and Texas back. It's most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And they ask you the question being you think Texas is back. Do you think Florida's back? Oh when they're back. They'll be back and they will prove it on the field. The third thing I've got to say today is I'm tired of watching Larry from missouris tweets about Matt from San Antonio. You know, we gotta thing down here in Texas called Honi. And he's Larry has any Kony's. He'll call the show and talk about Matt from Texas. And that's all I got. Well, thank you. Thank you very much, mad is there is there some issue between you and Larry from zuri. Yeah. Very doesn't like like these. I saw about I guess any name or stuff like that. And I let me ask you a question, because they're always, there are some critics of you, do you, do you pay attention. All this stuff on on Twitter. Now really heck sweater. So does I don't care what anybody says about Ganley show? I like attitude now. That's, that's how that, by the way. Matt, that is a winning. And a tude. Matt one question. Yeah. What, what is all that noise? In the background. Yes, my nephew wanting to be loud. I'm sorry about the phone, her nephew and Aggie. No, he does does by oh. But now. No dirt bike. Going back fall. What's going on that? Look, I love for Boeing people like on this show like it. I don't care. But people are saying, Texas's back, Paul. They're not back. What would you say? All those Texans. Honestly, as one thing that test spans Paul you team. You team sucks. You ain't back in you hook them horns of going down this year Ohio, Oklahoma. And because no one thing. Mccone them latte from San Antonio fan. If you if you say you're still back. Why can't you beat Oklahoma? You're right. I heard you a hundred percent. Well, said my friend. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's talk to kind of gara- Connor, thanks for bringing this story to our attention because we probably wouldn't have heard about otherwise we just told a little bit as we say Hello to you briefly. You gotta coach in Kentucky. I think his name is Mero, who has come after the media for being wrong. So pick up the story. Good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon. Paul. Yes. So basically, you know this was something that went on Kentucky sports radio and said, and, you know, the, the quote was I'm knocking down doors national media, because he's guys are really pissing me off. You know it's pissing me off. You know, he's listening to the radio, you know, you said that, you know, he was basically heard that Terry Wilson had been ranked last among SEC quarterbacks in the preseason or something. And then he went on to say that. No, just like coaches, get fired for wins and losses. All these reporters who come out and make these predictions, if they get a prediction wrong. They should get fired as well. So there's. Like there's lots on pack with that, and I went and kind of in a different direction other than just say, reporters shouldn't get fired for predictions, because obviously, I'm a little biased. And I've come on this show and made one or two wrong predictions. So I tried to avoid that a little bit. But I, I think that there's a lot there with, you know, the whole chip on the shoulder thing, and feeling like talking needs to be getting more respect because that's been something that has been really evident from the coaching staff not just an internal thing. But an external thing pretty much throughout this entire offbeat and for the record coach Miro is the associate head coach up there. He's the tight ends coach recruiting coordinator. I don't know him but he has until now he had a pretty good reputation. I get I get coaches getting upset, especially when one of their guys is is being dismissed. But I mean that's just so stream isn't it? Yeah. I mean it's extreme to say that reporters should get fired for wrong predictions. When you know, we can't see the future. And there are a lot of former former players, you know, former coaches who go on the air, and they make predictions all the time, nobody can seem to the future. And you know, if that were the case, then oddsmakers wouldn't really have job at no maybe odds makers should be the ones who are getting fired because they're the ones who kinda lay this stuff, all out there and actually have some writing on it. We just do it for entertainment purposes. And we do it because, you know, we consume this stuff, and we think that we have an opinion on it. But, you know, apparently it upsets certain coaches more than others, obviously all the preseason predictions that have been coming out for Kentucky where, you know, you see all these major publications that don't have in the top twenty five that has gotten to the staff after ten win season after historic season. And that's why not only, you know, Vince Burma. But, you know, Mark stoops has come out and said, what's up with all this respect? Why can't we get any respect for a program? Well, listen. I I'm I'm somewhat in an awkward. Bod- because I've been big fan of them. And I frankly think they'll have a good season. And I understand trying to me against the world routine. But sometimes when you win ten games or nine or ten game. Yeah. Act like it. Don't call him. You can't be the little kid. Who nobody I mean, that's one of my issues would would dab Sweeney. He's won two national championships, but he's still trying to act like they don't get any respect and so little. Oh, clemson. But we're not talking about Dabo Sweeney here. Do you think it's just a you think there's something more to this though about the media because the media is a little sloppier than maybe it used to be? And I say that because there's so many outlets and there's so many people who have opinions, and in platforms, and really we all do so to speak nowadays with social media. No, I think that's a great point. And you know, it's oddly enough. We actually just had Fred Segal who runs freezing. Cold takes we had him on our podcast but a week and a half ago. He's Florida grad and, you know, he kinda polices some of this stuff and there are a lot of people who on the internet will throw out there. They're you know, they're they woman necessarily own up to their wrong tastes, and they'll take credit for sure. There takes down. Right. And, you know, there are a lot of people who, who are doing that kind of nice to see that. There is an account teddy kitted to calling out those wrong tastes. Because everybody has now everybody has these platforms where they can make predictions. There are more predictions than ever. So I think that that's that's part of it. But this is just kinda the nature of the bid, and I get where, you know, this Kentucky coaching staff is coming from to a certain extent, because the different dynamic about college football is that it's an eight month off season perception matters. I mean in terms of getting money from booster's selling season tickets how you're doing the recruiting world if you're still being regarded nationally this team that, you know, like still. Steal doesn't have them even going to a bowl game this year. If you're still being viewed at is that and you're not over that hump yet, I think is a coaching staff that has really, really worked the last six, seven years to build this thing up, you're frustrated because you don't feel like you've made the progress or at least people aren't seeing the progress that they should be seeing. And what do you have to do to continue to prove yourself? So from that standpoint I get it now. Whether or not they should be getting caught up in what media saying, you know, it's weird because last year their whole rallying cries, nobody believes in us, you know, if any now looks into the camera and SEC network, and he says, keep doubting us world like you know, this is just kind of who can talk years. So it's really kinda see them change their tune a little bit now to say, like what do we have to do to make everybody believe it? Well what you have to do is, is keep winning. And you know, convince people that this isn't a one off, and, yeah, I, I, I don't mind that chip on the shoulder. I don't. But when you start. I mean, there's so much of this going on nowadays. And maybe this is what concerns me. And when you when you talk. About a reporter getting fired for making wrong opinion. You really insinuating these reporters don't know anything they're making stuff up. It's fake news. You know, on and on and on. And I think that's where we get really, really close to do a dangerous line here. Oh, we wouldn't have jobs. I mean what we do we do for work. That's a good point. And I also think that, you know, if you're. You know if you're if you wanna get mad. Five have the chip on your shoulder act like it's us against the world. But, but don't start don't start, you know, using a phrase, you know, coach should get fired because I mean Mark stoops nearly got fired three years ago. And he probably would have gotten fired had his kicker, not had a fifty two yard field goal against Mississippi State. He was that close to the edge because he had underperformed. And finally, he broke down the door and the rest of it's fairly well known, but it's incumbent on him and coach Marc Mero, and his staff to keep doing it like they do at Georgia, and Alabama and other schools. He, he did a great job last year of, of commanding the day. But it it's an every day of the year ordeal. It's not an but don't start attacking the media because some of us have gotten predictions wrong in the past. Right. And that's the thing is that, you know, look in the last twelve years like Illinois Kansas had been BCS bowls. Like these things happen. I'm not saying that Kentucky is going to revert back to being this program that's gonna fall face years. I believe in them and for what it's worth, I'm actually going to have them. You know, I I've already done my preseason top twenty five rankings that are going to be coming out, July already had a in for the top twenty five. I've argued that they're not getting enough respect actually create with, with what he's saying, but at the same time, you know, this thing works a little bit slower than than they'd probably like to, and we've seen this before with programs who have not historically been very good. Let's be honest, Kentucky just had its first winning season, the SEC forty years. So there's a reason that people are a little bit slower, especially when you lose to once in a generation players like bench now. And like Josh Allen, why people aren't necessarily believing in them. So, you know, I, I don't know if what's going to take necessarily for people to, to recognize them yearly, top twenty five team. I think it's gonna take a little bit more. And I think right now, they're just kind of frustrated that they don't seem to be over the hump that they thought they were over when they won that ballgame. You got that tenth win. Yeah. I'm so I'm so eager to ask you your predictions, but we'll save it not once you get in trouble with coach mirror. Conor way. We'll see that later. We'll see very soon look forward to catching you to media days, if not sooner thanks for coming on yet. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Really looking forward to catching up with this next guess you have to go back to the mid to late six ninety s was stuck in the fifties, a minute ago. We're now in the nineties and Auburn football was alive and well there was a game. I believe it was ninety six against Georgia. And if you're watching on television, if you're not, I'll describe what happened. You have a great situation where the Robert Baker the outstanding wide receiver catches a big pass and AGA, thanks, a bite out of them. It was one of the most iconic scenes that season. Baker one of the big stars on Terry Bowden's team. And. Robert Baker join Josh Robert, thanks for joining us. We just got we just got through showing. The moment you were bitten by ugh. Good afternoon. A lot of things that happened in your life. But that's one that will forever be etched in the memory of Auburn fans get after noon, right? Yeah. Pleasure. Be here. Yeah. That was that was at conic moment. We hopefully we I mean not hopefully but if Embiid if we had won that game. Yeah. They do. I remember is that the game that went to multiple overtimes for over time. Jim Donovan was the coach I was a longest game, I think to, to this point about the way not to ask you a stupid question, but did it hurt. Did it did it hurt? What do you mean when when when Olga? Okay. So I'll get didn't actually bite. You just came close. Right now. He wasn't quick enough. By the way, that just seems to be a problem for George over the years. Well, Robert great to have you on ya. I don't know why he's thought the dog bit you, but I was in the press box, and I'm glad to find out that missed listen. Good to have you on. And that was certainly one of the highlights of your Auburn career. And unfortunately after that, some things definitely got awry, and you ran into trouble with the law in serve some time, and now you're out, and there seems to be based on what I've heard interest in your story. Help us better understand for those who don't remember twenty nearly twenty some odd years ago. What happened? And how are you doing now? Well, I'm doing great right now. But my role has been you know, one of growth and maturity, and I've learned a lot and I kind of looked at everything, as you know, as a challenge in growing up without a mentor male figures in my life, I made a lot of a lot of bad choices, a lot of good choices a lot of bad choices. So after after college after I got into my situation in college where I went to prison I had the opportunity to go to the pros and play, you know, for the four to six years. And then I had a little brother that was the number one basketball player in the state of Florida. And he was rated like the top ten in the country, he died in a car accident. And I kind of went into deep, depression, and stop playing football and, and which led me, you know, back the prison. So. Now, I've came out of all of that. And I've, you know, started a foundation in his name caused the Dante project, and it's pretty much working we, you know, just going to be dealing with kids giving them the tools. They need to make better choices in life. And I feel like I've came all this way, just to have that opportunity to be able to make a difference. If somebody else's life, Robert air. Yeah. I mean I it's such a difficult odyssey that you've been through it's easy to sit up here on a pedestal and go man. The guy had an opportunity blew it. He had another opportunity blew it. But I as you tell your story, especially to young people, I'm really interested in, I know the audiences as well, when, when they ask you Robert, like what happened. How do you how do you? I mean, there's a simple answer. There's a there's a there's a very, there's a there's a very sterile answer with, with exactly what happened in what you were charged with. There was a lot of who was drug. There was guns. But, but then there's also a compassionate explanation that I'm sure young people want to here, and you're try, but, but you also have to tell them the truth, don't you? Yeah. I mean, it basically comes down to tools the tools you acquire along the way being able to understand, you know what life has to offer in the opportunities out there. So if you come from the inner city you're in a city kid in the only tools, you know that's out. There is sports wrapping in drugs, when times get tough, and you need to make money or you need to make decisions about a second career. I mean, guess where you go gravitate back to you. Go gravitate back to the holy tools to own the opportunities, you know of in your mind. Right. So that's where I was at some of those different parts in my life, that when it came down to, you know, making a living or just came down to kind of not. Karen, after my brother died. It was just, you know pretty much go back and make the destructive decision, you know, or the owner decision I feel like I know. So my the book that I'm, we're, we're writing this call no defense because where I come from. We say a guy who's out there making decisions in his life, without thinking is not playing defense. So it's kinda playing on words because to also they say that if I had to play defense, which I was a pretty good defense, a bag that would have been in the hall of fame. So it's kinda good plan worse when, when I bring that up in the book as well, Robert, I'm trying to split this, because I mean you go to prison, you got arrested. I think while you're in Auburn pretty serious charge. You so you get out. I mean when you get out of prison. It's supposed to be a learning experience or whether the statistics back up or not. But they probably don't. But you say what happened with your brother? I mean, how did how did you let that that terrible event, which I think everyone would admit is a major tragedy, but how did it slip away in the aftermath of his death? Well. I is that I question the way you were saying to me just making bad decisions as a, as a as a kid has a young man. I was, you know, eighteen nineteen when I made my decision that led me to the first prison, stint and. So along the way when I first got to do so I'm in prison. I get out of prison. I have opportunity for, you know, the fulfill the dream, and that I told my Yale. So like the first game of the season, so this that roller coaster ride. You know what I mean? And then five six years later. My little brother is fifteen years younger than me. So he was like my little brother like my son. You know what I mean, and I trained him and taught him and he was just a, a straight a student. He was a great athlete. And then I bought him a car his sixteenth birthday, and he died before his seventeenth birthday. So I put a lot of that who myself because I felt like I didn't sit him down and talk to him the dangers of driving being negligent with a car or, you know, making sure you respect the car, and, you know, you know, you know, respect that car because you could, you know is dangerous instrument. You can die and when he. When he died in a car accident, a which way he ran into a palm tree, trying to avoid hitting another car. It just you know, I felt like I just, you know, I felt like I just made another mistake I didn't do what I was supposed to do. I just felt like I let everybody down which kinda put me in a really deep depression. And so you get arrested you get sent to prison, again, in at that moment. I I it would seem to me that. Your life will seemingly over. I mean you're you're now a two-time loser had. How did you get through that second go around and find a way to at least look out there and see the sun and have hope? Well, I mean, in actuality it was like a guy fan because it gave me the opportunity, you know, federal prison helped me, psychologically find myself again for free. You know, we as athletes, we defy us by even making it to the pros as athletes, I think I defied even greater us by going to prison and then going for the pros. So I feel like me personally, I feel, I could do anything I feel like I could come this anything no matter what my setbacks work, you know, I come from I come from a little or nothing in. We got nothing to lose. We only got we own it all the way we got to go is up. You know. So we fall back down we've been there before you know what I mean. So, so basically, it was just, you know, gave me the opportunity to kind of reflect dig into myself and then. Established what my legacy is going to be after that. And that's the journey. I'm on now. So tell us where you are. Now you mentioned you're currently writing a book. Is that correct? Yeah. From currently writing a book. I started a nonprofit in the process of starting is nonprofit that's going to be helping young men. I have a real estate company that, that I'm actually riding around right now, looking at houses, the clothes on viewing homes, so and I'm gonna teach kids through my program, how to build with through real estate among, you know, along with a whole lot of other things. So I mean life life. Lashes life is what we make it. So it's good. I mean, I'm I'm excited on this next chapter in my life. I'm interested because listen. I mean, I've been to prison. But not in prison. And it looks like a dangerous and depressing place. But you seem to come out of it better than most. Would that be a fair statement? Well, yeah. I I you know they awesome drawbacks. Now, there are some psychological drawbacks because when I first got out, it was a I kinda I with a phase of depression, because it's like when you at the top, and you follow it all the way down, it's like high am I going to build myself or higher? I'm we'll get back to where I used to be because I felt so far. Right. But I got a I got a very supportive family. I got my other little brother and little sister. They went to college playing college basketball. We have a successful business that's medical service business where we help. It's and it's named after my, my late brother called high shift living of Gainesville, Florida. And I mean, we, we help people we, we support our families. I spent my family has always been behind me. They always been supportive. So, you know, when you got that good support is, is not hard to kinda. Shake things off and get back probably before you go. We have young people of all walks of life watching right now or listening. And I know that sometimes there's not much you can do when you get in with the wrong crowd, sometimes you have no, you're depending on where you were you grow up. It's hard to it's hard to escape. But what would your message be to young people out there who are in similar situations or circumstances to which you encountered growing up? My I have two things. One is for the adults around them, who's telling them this and telling them that first thing I would say to that does is lead by example week. We the kids, they only know about what they see. I mean you can tell them, you know, you could talk to the to the to the to the cows come home about what they should be doing. But if you ain't doing it, you're not you're not speaking from a place of believability, you know, when they don't believe you and for the kids, as far as the choices, they make it think about what they won't they life what they want their life to be fake about what you wanna be ten years, fifteen years from now and I know that's hard for, for a young person to, to understand, but they, they have to view themselves in the next ten to fifteen years of where they want to be what they want. They left the be light. Robert all the best thanks for coming on. And I really hope this thing gets off the ground with with great success. And I hope you'll come back. Appreciate it. Hey, this is this is a good start right here. Right. It was a fascinating story. And unfortunately it had some bumps. But it sounds like things are going in the right direction all the best to you come back soon. And we wish you very well. Appreciate it. Thank you. Robert listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast inching towards the season in so many interesting quarterbacks we talked yesterday about the one who has made a transfer from the SEC to the big twelve today. We talk about one who's left the ACC for the SEC and Asha off joining us, and always, great to have on recently visiting with Kelly Bryant who according to what you've reported here, Ed doing quite well, good afternoon. Yeah. He, he is very, very happy in Colombia and the first thing that I asked him when we started, our interview was have you ever been to the state of Missouri? And he said, no first time he'd ever been was first official visit after last season. And he was telling me the entire time between his two hour drive from the Kansas City airport to Columbia. He's telling himself, I can't go to Missouri. This is not a place that I want to go. I'm just taking one of my visits, and when he got on campus he told me he fell in love with the coaches. He fell in love with the atmosphere at Missouri. And the biggest thing for him. Was he really liked the idea of challenging himself even more endeared Dooley's more pro style offense? He loved what he did with drew lock last year. And he really saw himself being able to, to develop as a better prospect at Missouri. And then I was like, well, if you look at Arkansas, you look at Auburn, those offenses kind of match your skill set perfectly, and he said, I know, but there's a challenge here at Missouri. I wouldn't get anywhere else. And the funny thing was he wasn't totally convinced on that trip, yet, even when he was leaving. He's still telling himself and his mother, I can't go here. Right. Like, I'm not going to end up at Missouri. And when everything was said and done he absolutely loved. It's time there in love the relationships, and he built it a new you've answered a lot of it already. But we were in Fayetteville in November. And there was a sense among the coaching staff there that they had Kelly Bryant and you may be able to say the same about Gus malzahn. So moving to those two schools, individually. Have been both big big Siamese, especially for Auburn. What do you think happened? Especially in Auburn, I think with, with Bryant personally, he really liked the idea of doing something different. And I asked him about Auburn, I was like, well that was a school that, you know, before I knew anything I thought you were going to go there when you look at what the offense was, and he was like I liked Auburn can do. And I really like coach Gus malzahn. But the idea of trying to get to the NFL and be able to play in an offense that will show what he can do as a passer more than a runner at times was really attractive to him. And I know some of the fans out there, probably going to laugh at this, but he really liked the idea of playing under Derek Dooley. He said look, he worked with the Cowboys. He knows what the NFL wants. He knows what NFL quarterbacks look like he can help me out more than anyone else and really looking at withdrew locked it thrown for almost four thousand yards last year was really, really attractive, because he knows. Hey, the NFL loves running quarter. Bax here and there, but at the end of the day, it is a passing league. And he had to improve his passing numbers and it's technique, and he thought he could do that best with their duly at Missouri. And that's interesting because there Billy took such a hit leaving Tennessee. But, but it almost seems to all of us that he has done a nice job of rehabilitating his reputation. Yeah. And he really really likes being in Columbia, his family still down in Dallas and it's only about an hour hour and a half flight form. So it's easy to see them. He likes the idea of starting over and one thing that kind of worked with him. And Kelly Brian is they still kind of build a relationship as that they both still have big chips on their shoulder. Kelly Bryant told me it's more like a boulder for coach Dooley. And I like that because I still I still feel the same way coming from Clemson. They've been able to kind of bond on how their careers and other places ended and not so good of a way, and that's been something that's really helped him out in the quarterback room as they get together. And one thing, the Derek Dooley told me about being Missouri, is that it's a chance for him to really start over not just with a new school, but with himself as. A coach and it's been good can be an offensive coordinator to be more hands on with guys, especially in the quarterbacks room. And that is really helped him and I will say this, he is not been afraid to come Kelly Bryant when he's not playing well or practicing. Well, and Kelly, Brian has really liked that he's like the really big hands on approach that Derek Dooley has had Ed. You, you were there. We don't hear a lot of conversation about Missouri from their fans. What do you what do you expect from the Tigers this year? They're really, really confident bunch. And I asked head coach Barry Odem. How do you keep this team motivated with the possibility of that one year bowl ban sticking? And he said, look, this is a team that bonded instantly when Kelly Bryant stood up in the locker room after berry Odem told them that they were gonna that the one year ban with coming and said, look, I'm staying all those players were caught off guard, because a they didn't expect a decision that fast and be they didn't really expect him to stay. And once they got the buy in from this quarterback who just arrived on campus. It kind of bled into the team. They didn't have any transfers after they knew that their seniors are going to be hit by other teams. And they were going to be recruited they all decided to stay, and they all have these t shirts that they're wearing at practice. They're wearing around campus to say hashtag us and this. Years, all about them. They don't care about the outside noise. They would love to go to a bowl game. But if that doesn't happen, that's not going to ruin their season there about the Missouri Tigers and what they can do this year. If you look at the schedule and you look at the guys they have coming back, especially on offense. They feel really good Kelly. Brian home. I asked Kelly Brian Barry owed him. How do you scrape the perfect season in very odum was, you know, very PC about it. I want us to play as hard as we can one week at a time. Kelly, Brian looked at me and said, twelve no and looking like national chains. And I said, looking like he's like yes, if we're twelve no this season, and we don't go to a bowl game. We're national champs the the way that this team is carrying themselves. It's totally different from what I expected when you look at the possibility of what they could do with a bowl game with a bowl game in sight, and not having it, this team thinks that they're going to be really, really good regardless of what they do after the season would that's up attitude. He should have gone to UCF. He likes the idea playing in the SEC. He wanted to go up against the best defenses in the country. And one thing that he told me when I asked him about, you know, North Carolina was an option here, South Carolina guys like man, look at the SEC look at the guys, I've got to go up against every day. And now look what I'm going to have to go up against every week. That's what he wanted. He wanted to challenge, and to me, that was kind of the, the most interesting part of all this considering everything that you went through Clemson. He didn't think that he got a fair shake in the starting job after those first four games and to go somewhere where he's got a totally changed what he's doing as a quarterback in an offense. You're not going to be a run. I guy here. He wanted that challenge. And that to me is really impressive. And then you pile on the fact that he could have left and gone somewhere else after the bowl ban and decided to stay it really says a lot about him and his goals, going forward, great stuff, and can't wait to see him at the university of Missouri. Ed, thanks for. Coming by look forward to seeing you soon. Thanks for having me. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. What's continue? Nick is next Kathy. Once again, we go to Nick, and he's talking to someone else. Oh, I this Nick. Yeah. We know Nick we went to your name. I know that all look I got a question on last, you listen to the show yesterday when he guest talk was talking about the fullback -sition in college football, this third of much, you know, gone, whatever. Right. I the you know, who to last fold back, and I'll Bama was true football true fullback position. Well, I think one of the best fullbacks was Kevin Turner. But that's probably not. I. Now, I really don't know the answer. So why don't you save us from time and answer it? Well, I'm gonna buy Milan-San years savings been there, you know, when they out, you know, do you do you have an answer? Yeah. Michael NAS, wild winder. Oh, I must have been forgotten. And then it was Brad smelly. Oh, yeah, Brad smelly. Johnson, followed and Barron, who back in old, seven, you know, never I do. Remember fowler? Yeah. Hey, Nick, I, I have a very Sapien question for you. Okay. Go ahead, Paul. I'll listen. What in fewers fuel awards as possible, because we're short on time. What was the point of this phone call? No answer is the answer Cuban listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast Jim, is next. You know, Pollock and listen to the radio and some of the funniest, that's why I was gonna listen to Sean, the funniest most Larry call. He gets sometimes from the old timers you go oh. And then they listen to the radio and they go. You know, they don't hear you. Don't hear nothing about thirty seven forty five and you say, hey, John. What are you listen to me, and don't listen to those are those are great calls down another great? Call Paul was while ago who I tried to save. But that's the end of that Nick cats bring, you know, bring any better than what you just did. That's one of the greatest as you've ever had in your life. When you pause for about fifteen thirty once again mix not there. He's talking to somebody else. Great new show every day is that well, thank you. Yeah. I mean, there's kind of a back and forth between Nick and the guy from red bay on who Cornell now. Each other. I think as bad as Nick was today. I, I'd still go to day. Oh far. Red bay redneck. I mean really come on, you know that. Yeah, I do agree with you on that. He talked to guy the red line for the year ago. Totally lied about his grandson or what was about you, remember. Oh, yeah. And he, he has this habit now, Jim of posting on Twitter and yesterday posted that he's going through a tough time and I made it worse because I. Yeah. You made it worse. Yeah. Every I'm not a psychiatrist. But when you blame others for your own issues, you have these even bigger issues. Exactly exactly trying to excuse yourself because you, then yeah. He's blaming me on some family issues. Let anyway you know what here's one great new today. You get back in your old gear you wits good. The wit is good. The humor is great, that's close to wit the positives you give the comeback forgiving guys, like you didn't Nick while it. I mean, this is not an eight plus it helped me a knockout. So with me exceptional to be an eight show him, it's tough, you know, being, you know, I'm I'm trying to fight my way back out of you know losing the title today. I really mean today has been from what I've heard about the last hour, and it's been it's been exceptional the way your responses. You're, you're, you're quickness. That's what I like today. You quickest, was a jerk with the. Dummy collars, that have nothing to say, no energy, and you, you, you, you, you don't suffer Jeb Bush, you very long. I've found love that energy. You don't let them hang around. That's no. Yeah. I'm trauma it. Listen, jim. I'm trying to make this show great again. What you doing a good job today. And and, and, you know, you've been you. Anyway. I'm always trying to fill about while going to talk about Trump not. Some guys that does Twitter. Why do you let him? I never said anything yet. He brings nothing. Of course, you know, bring something even bringing nothing. But who's you're talking about yesterday somebody? Like he's like, Jim says, you got nothing. Good. That's good. Good live. Oh, that's good line. First of all, he's not getting on, but I do want to give you a big laugh, right here. I looked down in Nick once on with you, which I think is even more comical than then his call. That could be putting Nick. Okay, we'll do them on. Nikki, are you there? Yeah I'm here. Well, Jim Jim, thank you. I me I gotta tell you. I'm not being mean. So, yeah. I'm trying to be honest. If you can't, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you, you, you didn't bring it today. But what you did what you did you did some good. You know what you did? Yeah. I asked the question not not. Oh, here's what you did. What you did Nick. Here's what you, you open the door for fun bomb to show, extreme humor and wit and was fun to your day, enter for about thirty seconds. And that's what you that's a good. You did a good job without even knowing it. You really did. Yeah, I know. But go as Guezou Kenner, y'all. Nick, I said, this Randy I said off the air. I said, the great part about Nick is the worst. He is the funnier the call. Exactly. Yeah. But why, why why he that's don't MacOS and light me. I don't know why you know what my goal when Nick, here's the problem in gyms already explained it when you call in a program like this there, we don't ask a lot. But number one, we do ask, if you can be there when we go to you. I don't know who you taught him. Got it answer the bail, Nick, you got to answer the Bill. Well, celebrate to my wife and stuff, and I didn't hear them. Hey, Jim heroin. Hold on. Listen. I know in the bell. You know, whatever. Okay. Hold on. One second both the you said you were talking to your what, how long have you been married, Nick? Oh, about twenty eight years thirty years now. So you've been married for nearly which one is it. Thirty years. I mean, usually you get married on a specific date. And I it doesn't I mean every year you add one to it. So if you've been married twenty eight or twenty nine years, you were married. Eighty nine nine hundred ninety one something like that. Is that fair? No. Well, I say is probably about ninety one ninety one not said eighty nine ninety or ninety one. Yeah, you're right. You have anyone. Thanks for the correction. So Nick, you've been married since nineteen Ninety-one is that a fair statement? That's very tonight. But you call it a popular talk show that seen and heard nationally. And you're talking to your wife, you haven't had twenty nine years to talk to her before this phone call. Oh, yeah. I mean, she's been listening dot he used to six years. Oh, I mean she's listening. Jim saying save the day. Well, you. Got an knee. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Yeah. Put your wife home for peace. Let's see what she she, she can bring put you on here. Hey, dan. Hey, hi, what's your name? Kathleen, hey, Joe, you sound great Kelly. Why don't you call for Knicks about? Cocker nick. I think what time and tough to barons, and I liked it very much wrong. I'm sorry. We started Peter. I think we've found a superstar here. Kathleen, you really sound good. Wow. My thank you. You're now twenty know why Paul is so rude today. Jim, would you? Jim would you answer the question Paul rude to everybody? We don't discriminate. That's right. Let me see. Kathleen is your name. Is that right? Yes, it is due from Jolo. I'm from New York, you would part. New York, New York, New York's twenty million people. It's got five boroughs. I'm just trying to identify which part of that Manhattan. Okay. The big one I've heard of it. So how did you meet Nick? How did I'm beat him. I'm not, by the way, that was not a question. Jim you still there. I'm I'm listening carefully. Okay. Go ahead. Yes, I've been through his mother whose mother, yes. How did okay? So your mom, set you up Hayes Ma there. Yes. Of course, she likes the oh. Hey, Jim, you're gonna have to help me here. I'm out of Washington. Kathleen le- let me ask you this. How do you like from he's a New Yorker, you New York, Trump? You like trials high while I Trump, you're the president. Yeah. Yes. I do like okay. Okay. That sounds good. That's great. Yeah. Who do you like I like Trump, you listening to, you know, Trump? Well that's very good. I'm glad this is great. Trump's, you out some big support here on the show. I'm sure it'd be calling in any minutes and, and Paul's parents from New York, and he's a New Yorker in a way. So you could fit right in Kathleen, you really do. You, you, you. You've been with Nick for almost thirty years. Yes. Yes. And some he's. He's, he's very kind and grew hard. Yeah. Yes. I think I think fine might have a an award for you. Stay when Nick for thirty five thirty years. I haven't a Nobel peace prize. You've done you've done right. You really done right. You if it's like you done. Good. You've done good athlete. You you've made me feel better about Nick. And thank you for being such a good sport. And when when's your aniversary, I'll send you a. Whatever I don't know what I'm gonna send you. It's in may may six may six okay? Well next year. I got, you got a long way to wait let me, let me finish this off for one thing. Pollock K, please Jim great call Kathleen. And great. Call today after his the second call me right count. This is Dr high Graham, Jim, I wanna thank you know, and I love I love to go back to jam. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He's great. He's good. She's gonna Jim. Thank you. Loves a couple of times, mastic listen. We you said hold on one. Second. Can you guys? Give me one second. I gotta take my is calling. 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He's the all her of the books fool a world. The oral history of a band called the peak sees and in heaven. Everything is fine. The unsolved life of Peter either's and the lost his degree of new wave theatre. He's newest passion project Easter ranch on horseback salad, Salvador Dali the mocks brothers and greatest movie. Never made that graphic novelist sation of the legendary proposed screen collaboration, but tween the markses and Salvador Dali. Rabbit is spader. Makes his second appearance on the podcast. He's a historian writer in Brindisi, sir, that documentaries thick cabinets Viet nam the legendary bean Crosby, the dawn of sound how movies learn to talk. And you bet your life, the lost episode he's old. So the editor of Groucho Marx and other short stories and told tales and then exclusively research, both exhaustively. Research. At continues doing fresh Franken me gore. Out the three musketeers the marks brothers on stage. And finally, on the phone with us from California, Bill marks as alleged of fiving person to have worked with route Joe Harpo, end Jayco. He's had Juilliard drain musician and composer, whose written and composed numerous works for concerts, films and television theater and ballet and British and range and breath on down to memorable albums with his dad. His memoir is all son of our pro speaks and it's a terrific read. Welcome by but we can all go home now. Yes. No. Whatever you said about me. I'm so tired. I gotta go. Are you Bill? Hey, thanks for doing this. My extreme pleasure so far. Yeah. Do you know these to these two scofflaws that are sitting here with us, Josh Robert? Yep. I know them and I that's as far as I'm gonna take with this. I'm not going to say anything. More. Vote count. Now Gilbert, and I were looking at, at, at giraffes on horseback salad. And by the way, Josh, a nice guest who brought gifts you know, very rare. Eight he brought us a poster of the nonexistent movie dementia and t shirt or then nonex- his now visit, you know, growing up. I remember we'd old hear these horror stories about someone who dropped acid, and they had such a bad trip. They either jumped off a bridge or wound up spending the rest of the life in an insane asylum. That's what this book looks like TIMMY. Well, that's the whole idea. Now you don't have to do those other. See this is a gift, you know. Where he was looking at it before and he was saying it was the key. It's like the kind of movie that in the sixties, people would use as an excuse to get high. Yeah. Like you go see Fantasia and yellow submarine. You first you get stoned, and then see those, and this would be definitely if it existed nowadays, people would get stoned, and they'd be mobs of people wanting to watch wait until you lick page thirty four. Yes, tell us the Genesis Josh. I mean this this, this thing, everybody every Marx brothers fan knows about this, this long lost project, and we say laws, long-lost movie because there was no movie. And there was really. No screenplay. Right. Well, I actually didn't. I've been a fan of the Marx brothers since I was seven eight years old. And, and I've been studying lost pop culture histories for twenty years now. And I actually didn't know about this, until really the last seven or eight years. I heard mention of it at one point, just in passing that Dolly had attempted to write something, but it really wasn't until about six years ago. When I decided that I really wanted my next book to be. Taking a lost or unmade movie by someone or some group of people that I admired, and trying to uncover what was left to work with and try and finish their work. I really felt that that'd be something really interesting and cool to do, so after I finished my third book, I started scouring the, the internet for for, you know, all of those lists of, you know, the hundred you know, great character roles that no one ever got to see or, or the fifty best unmade movies. And there is a ton of these lists of unmade movies, and on all of them, along with Verner Herzog. That's how you pronounce it. It's not very. Men, along with Herzog's. He wanted to make this like a Spanish Mexican civil war epic. And then Kubrick's, Napoleon, Kubrick's Napoleon was on all the list, of course, dune. Sure, and on pretty much all the lists was Salvador Dali giraffes on horseback salad. And it was really the first time that I saw that this was legit like this was not just sort of silly myth or this like people were talking about this. And there was even a couple sentences about things that Dolly had wanted to have happen in it. And they were nuts, like, you know, like like Harpo cracking a nut on a midget, and then handing it to Groucho you'll Gill. Yeah. I'm graduating the nut and spits it back in them in the home in, in, in the. Anyway, monkeys. I've just really crazy stuff. So but I was intrigued, you know because. I, I never one just to believe that what I'm seeing in front of me is all that there is like, if there's something about something, there's probably more about that something somewhere. If you look hard enough, and so I sort of, and then at the same time in my head, there, is that sort of delusions of grandeur thing coming on, which is like, I could make the next Mark. You know. Like I could be that guy and you're going to insert little person recent midgets, knowing, boy, cog. The wrong show, buddy. Dahlie, specifically use the word midget, or you go let I'm quoting deli. But so the point was is that that's sort of where the, the spark of maybe I could do something with this started. And then the more I dug and the more, I reached out to the Dalai foundation, who sent me to, you know, this us reached out to them. Did you say Hello, Dolly? She's been hanging onto that, since you were booked one. Surprisingly, the only rain show, we booked shoe, type it sitting on that joke for years. Could fucking leave. It's all downhill from here. Then. Surprisingly, the Dalai foundation. Go ahead. Happy. Josh yes, go ahead. Go ahead. Bill furnishing referencing the midget, I just want you to know dad got off. He got a very, very good attorney and got off. You didn't have to go to jail. Bill. Before it before Josh tells us about his journey of, of, of making this thing happen. Give us a little historical context. When, when did you become aware of this project this mystery script about twenty minutes ago? Act win Frank called. I would I would say, maybe I met Josh last year, and he informed me of this absurdity, and I, you know, I wish them well, and low would I know but it is one of the most remarkable unusual hardcover comic books you'll ever read in your life. Yeah. You really did. Because in, in the fashion that it is presented its unique. And let's face it. We're talking about Dolly and the Marx brothers. Both entities were absolutely unique. And I it was a great choice. It's a it's a marvelous, what I would call icebreaker at a dinner party to give us even more historical context. Tell us a little, and I'm going to come back to Josh on this journey, but tell us a little bit about your dad's relationship with Dolly, well, I'd, I'd rather listen to Josh quite frankly. Riveted tell them about your mom and her interact with values because I love this Harpo wife was the most realistic person about this because I think she thought the whole thing was a load of nonsense I should be she told me that it was a lot of non we'd like to hear what happened to the harp. Yes. Bill the harp. He said, well, for those of you who are not familiar with lost screenplays, or books, or whatever Robert had the distinct, I'm going to say, pleasure of coal, riding my mother's biography. And so he spent a considerable amount of time with Susan. Who was not exactly the most sentimental person an entire world. Probably more interesting than all the marks for this put together, she carved out a life of her own in spite of the fact that she she was shuttled as a child from place to place to place to place and never had any friends of our own. And while she was young until she met Paulette Goddard when she was sixteen or something Ned wave earns dance class, and then they both went onto the zinc fuel follies, and then mom went into Columbia and Paramount Pictures. And she hated show business from the timer mother put her in show business. She couldn't she couldn't wait to get out, but she, there was no place for an attorney except toward her mother, who was basic. Weekly stage mom who vicariously wanted to experience success through her daughter? And when she finally Susan Fleming, finally met Harpo and they got married. She became MRs Harpo, Marx, it totally different entity, and she lived on and on, and on for this man. And I if they were alive today they would still be married he died on their twenty eighth. Wedding anniversary that day on September twenty eight and so twenty eight and and. And, and it's multiple multiplied. And into Infinity will always be very special number for them marks family. She she could give an opinion on absolutely everything that ever happened on the planet. And she had strong opinions about, Dolly is that is that what you're, you're referencing Robert? She I asked her specifically about the time with daily visited them, and there was a language barrier, but she said they spoke with their eyes. But Bill, tell them about when the gift arrived in just the reaction to because I think it's I think it's really practical of Susan which he. Well, you tell them. Yeah. As a picture of it in Joshua's book. Oh, one day at the door arrived, a huge package with from Salvador Dali, and they opened it and low and behold, it was a harp and the harp was a different kind of harp that you would normally see it. It's its frame. It was the same, but frame was covered with the silverware it was all pasted on and it, and it was cellophane over the entire frame. And then for the strings instead, they were barbed wire that was constructed for the heart. And this was Dali's present to dad with this weird looking object sat in our, our. Living room, I guess, for maybe five or six months and then when day Susan says, I can't stand this thing. This is awful. Who would ever want anything like that? And she went and she took it to the garbage and we have no no idea whether that garbage men is where two hundred and sixty million dollars. Gilbert said what it would be worth today. There's a great picture of it in Josh's book, where he posed for a mock fo a gag photo. Righty bandaged up his hands. Yeah. Yeah. He. Dahlie, they had a correspondence before Dolly came over to paint him, and Dahlie sent the harp and then Harper wrote back with the photograph of him with his hands all bandaged up and, and he wrote, you know, you know, thanks. Thanks for the harp. And if you ever come this way, I'd be happy to be smeared by you as long as I could return the favor. So he's basically saying if you come to America, we can paint each other easy to say, oh, what would that be worth it? If you knew Susan it was just a harped in the one could play. Right. Hell, do we need it for? She was really proud. No. Radical practical right in right free since. Right. Boy. Oh, boy, your great, great, great grandparents. Could. I mean, your great great, great grandkids could probably retire on what that Harper would go for. Well, I, I love about about Roberts and experience with Susan. That it, it was the way she told that she never told it to me, he had a very, very close relationship with her for years. So I worked on the book for a couple of years that I spent a couple of weeks with her in Rancho Mirage, and then we corresponded lot night visited again, but we we've talked on the phone. We wrote letters and things and she was just really great about it. But what I noticed is she didn't wanna finish the book. She wanted to keep working on the book sweeter by that why we never finished. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you I did try to get her to talk about the Dalai visit and the play. And this is not something you'd put on the jacket for a blurb, because I asked her what she thought of it, and she said an absolute piece of crap in a waste of time. I actually put that in the book you did in there. That's right. That's right. See this is one of those that if the movie had been made are, you know, I, I know would be beyond horrible, but I wish to God it had been made. Yeah. Fat, would it would have been absolutely fascinating. Well, the key thing is chicken would have needed the money so he would have been on how -solutely. One Janice crowd show. Why this movie's should have been made? Okay, I'm gonna being Groucho didn't actually want. He actually had a pretty rough response to it too. He said he said, it's not funny. It wouldn't play wouldn't play like Gilbert, if you were Groucho, and I was to ask you, why didn't the Dalai movie get made very Schuco newsroom on as my father would say she whenever she started the sentence that she was rather negative. The first two words it came out of her mouth. Oh, christ. That was the she oak Christ, if it's no good old Christ is this, and that the, those were two favorite words. One of the greatest things about talking to Susan was her complete recanted assessments of the Marx brothers. So it was really incredible. Because when my Groucho book came out I sent the copy to her back in ninety three when it came out. And when I was talking to her, I didn't ask her what she thought of it or anything she said, I really liked your book. I like it better than I like Groucho. I was I was re Bill, I was reading your book, and you said that, that she was one of the women that would not put up with Groucho insults, right? Yeah. And she was at least in my lifetime was the one woman that he respected and dearly loved. He he, he really loves her. I think partly because he knew how good she was through his brother, Groucho would say an interviews that Harpo all the good qualities that the March for this mother many had were in Harpo he inherited all of her. Good qualities. Well, I would like to kick the bucket knowing that I had no enemies. That's really basically, my, my hope and belief that I'm gonna I'm gonna work on that as MRs I 'cause dad died without an enemy. It's not a very easy thing to do. And I, I'm trying to emulate him very poorly. I might let's nice Bill. There's a great line in your book, by the way. But I think it was been attributed to Ben Hecht, who said, the Harpo could light up a room St. simply by setting in it, which is which was interval thing. I know paraphrase some higher. Realm of show business. You could not find anyone with an unkind word to say, f Harpo. Yeah, what a lovely thing. I've never found anybody with an unkind word to say about Bill, except the three of us here. Yeah Gilbert, we'll, we'll have that same reputation for you. Let me let me just ask myself, let me get back to Josh's book for a second. So did Josh you. You also you imagined. You imagine it of a certain period, you were as long as you were taking this sort of what if Reid you imagined that it wasn't just made by the Marx brothers, but was made under Thalberg. Yeah. Well in order to pull it off. I felt it was really important to focus on authenticity and make some rules, and that I should stick, by the rules, otherwise it would be a big mess. So the big the first rule was that it was nineteen thirty seven and this was actually being made then wasn't being made ten years later wasn't. It was being made win. It would have been made. Nine hundred thirty seven the other role was MGM would have never green lit it in a million years, had Thalberg. You know, not been there, and unfortunately, he wasn't he had passed away or so. I- resurrected Thalberg. And so that he could green light it because what really happened is Harpo. Oh, managed to get a meeting a meeting with Louis b Mayer. Yes and mayor didn't feel very kindly. There wasn't a big March purse PS, one of the little known things is that the Marx brothers weren't actually signed to MGM mayor didn't want them. They had a contract with thal Berg to work at MGM in what was then like the thal Berg production unit and the reason the Marx brothers, really left MGM after day at the races, because they had a clause in the contract that if fallbrook was unavailable for thirty days or something they could terminate the contract. Well he was dead. So he was unavailable for thirty days. They are the actually re-signed with MGM people say, so the they got loaned out, or they went overkill for one picturing came back. They made a totally separate deal at our k over three pictures only ended up making one because room service didn't do that. Well, and then mayor got nervous when they signed with our KO for big money, and he signed him to three picture deal before room service, even came out, but thal Berg was the reason they were there when Faubourg was gone. They were gone. Did I step on you too much? I wanted you to take it away because I didn't know what the hell I was gonna say. Next in order here, not make. Why here not make the you know, that history, I also found it interesting that you were a little sad that you couldn't use EPO. You were you were you were being faithful to the period, s and pusher. Zippo fan. I think all of us are. And actually, at the last minute there is like five days left before the, the book had to be. Frozen in time. And I said, I'm outings, EPO in, and I'm adding a reference to MRs Rittenhouse in, because I was like, oh my God, there's no reference, and there's no. And, and the thing is, is that in theory this, the idea of this movie is that this is a prequel to all the Marx brothers movie. So in theory, this is like this is my George Lucas going back, you know, thing, so because I wanted to have a clean fresh start. I didn't want there to be these others. This is the first story and I figured that would actually help because I it would make it okay for me to put in some references to some of their other movies without it being me stealing from those movies, because really those movies were stealing from me. You know, because this happened before those it. That'll hold up in court. My loving, take and Harpo is playing like a Spanish, that's what throws you right away. It's not Harpo Harpo playing Harpo character. Please. Don't ask me about this part. I have no idea what I did. You're waiting to see Harpo and in a week in a beeping the horn and the big coat. And instead he's like a Spanish diplomat. Well, he's not technically Harpo at first, this is an origin. This is the order. This is the origin story of how Harpo became Harpo and how the surrealist woman became this, the first surrealist superhero, this is a graphic novel, so you have to have origins store absolutely in in. Sorry. Bill. The, the book is masterfully of an artfully done by some ladies correct. Manuela, partake in Barcelona Spain. She really captures Dolly. She's certainly does. And the same thing can be said for lay out of Roberts, most recent Duboc of it right in front of me. For the three musketeers. It is a phenomenal book. It is, if you're Marx brothers fan, and even if you're not I've read it twice before we jump off on this as long as we've got Bill on the phone, and we brought zippo up. Yeah. And we'll come back to the we'll come back to the various books, but, but Bill Gilbert, and I, and I assume the two gentlemen, sitting here with us are of the opinion that, that the Marx brothers, pictures are better with zippo in them. And I would love your take. I think people would be interested to hear. When okay versus. That the Mark March for Paramount Pictures were funnier straight through they were really kind of more the Marx brothers, and when they went over to MGM fell Berg saw them as headliners that they should have been, and he made motion pictures were intermittently they were absolutely hilarious. They brought in a love interest long within in a more complete of fun for the whole family type of concept for them. My I, I still think that probably night at the opera is the best picture that they made it's not my favorite my favorite in and hold onto your hats. I know what you're gonna say. What go ahead? You're going to say your favorite picture is go west. Yes. But we forgive you. That. I think I think I want to hang up on you. I'm sorry. Oh, well. Hypica- reasons. It is it was my favorite picture because the brothers didn't wanna do it. And they, they went ahead and did it anyway. And you could tell grout shows energy wasn't there. And chick is, is energy was long gone by, then I feel that dad carried that picture. And he was so wonderful in it. And maybe that's just because I'm son and, and I, I look for little things at the dinner table, or when he's practicing the heart, but when he's playing the harp I looked at a at him in that picture is pure, dad. I didn't see him as our sweet. And, and that's why it's my favorite picture, but far away, not as good as others Bill, that it's a wonderful Harpo picture stuff. Did in this stage were four in really is the best stuff in the film that opening sequence in the station is really it's incredible March brothers and it's rarely seen things with the three of them together doing something really funny, and that you don't see much of that. But I don't really watch go west the same way that I watched say monkey business, I know, Josh's, great movie. Yeah. I love that Harpo steals the show. A lot of monkey still I, I mean, I think most, I believe, and I think most people that their ultimate the peak was duck soup. I love duck soup. But I'm a monkey business guy funny. I'm a horse feathers guy horse feathers, this, this love horse feathers. Give it. One, I saw any given day. I could say duck soup is my favorite. Right. Right. Wow. I wake up in the morning. It's which one is my favorite paramount. They'll tell us about being on the set of love happy when you were a kid, what, what memories, do you have I was eleven and a half years old. And dad was having a tough time in the movie with the producer and it was not supposed to be a March for the picture. Well, it turned out to be much further picture in the produce producer had been lying all along. It was to be just a picture. The featuring dead. And anyway, he it was one of the more sour experiences in his professional career, but he went ahead and he did this movie as as the the lead and he it was not. The dad that I knew right at that time. I've I resurrected his image. When I went to Great Britain after the movie was completed. We did it vaudeville tour. We're chico. But he there, there was a moment in my time, which I will not forget, and that is I went onto the set one day and during a break, I said here, dad look at what I just made in school. I had been forced to paints or something or draw something, and I draw pastel of Palomino horse, and I was so proud of myself, and it wasn't very good. I guess I don't know. But I showed it to dad, and he said, that's the most wonderful picture. It's just fabulous. And, and you keep up the good work. Well, of course, I could hardly draw a straight line. But nevertheless, he he gave me that kind of encouragement all along that I really wish that parents would give their children and, and give them purpose. Give them a feeling of importance and a passion for doing something that they love. And that's what we had with music, dad. We. He was the most passionate man when it came to sitting down and discovering himself. He was a guy who. Wouldn't have known shush to Cova is from Frank Sinatra, but he paid attention over the years. And listen to all kinds of music, and he learned how to play things that many harpists couldn't play and he never read Onoda music. So we had. Fun time together developing a way for them to learn new songs. He was. I, I just wish parents would encourage their children the way he encouraged me. I mean I, he, he had confidence in me that I didn't have, but he kept routing me softly. And I wound up being part of his, his professional life for twelve years. Thing I'd like to just point that about your Harpo that I learned from Groucho daughter Miriam. Yeah. Things weren't always so wonderful at Groucho house, when she was a teenager, and she used to escape and run over to Harpo spouse to be around them because she just wanted to be around him. And Susan always said, why don't you stay for dinner at? They just gave her that haven way life at Harper has been like a dream. I mean there's something surreal about that. What kid wouldn't want to be there? I said great picture in your book, Bill. I guess is from Christmas with you and your siblings, and it's just the picture of the picture of happiness, and it might have been taken April because the Christmas, tree state up like. Yeah. Did stay up a long time and we had lights outside and Jack Aranda Trie and one year it was Christmas lights and one year after Christmas. Dad says, let's keep them on all your around, so we don't have to, you know, do this again next year. And, and he decided that at the end of particular day that somebody might have done something really well in school, or whatever we would turn the lights on that night to celebrate minis, I know of paper on horses and Jimmy's of ability to do something, and Alex is the same. And, and so we used those lights to great advantage. That's that's one tree that never came down. After Christmas with lovely so other than the ability to speak. It seems like Harpo really was that character on screen and off. You could say an an effect I think I just heard you say. Bill, bill. Tillerson's Gilbert brought up the, the not speaking in Robert. It's in your book. Tell us about dad, turning down a significant sum of money when he was offered to say one word. Oh, oh, that's a night in Casablanca David Lowe, wanted Harpo to say the word murder, and well, I could tell it either one of you. He's his answer was not gonna tear down something. I've spent decades building, and he was offered, so that fifty thousand dollars admirable physically the one we're now obstruct kick, what does it, do you want me to not talk for fifty thousand? What you would have done for an extra fifty grand in nineteen forty six right? Harpo and chicken agreed to play a UK tour together and chicken went out there. I and played his own stuff and they didn't rehearse anything in one Harpo came up to the good, do something together. And Harpo went to see Csikos act. And he came back to Susan. He was really disgusted Kosice. It's all blue chip. Goes doing blue material, and that really upset Harpo, so Chico disappointed Harpo and Susan was really. When I talked to her about hundred ninety five she was still pissed off about it. Yeah. Yep. You're right. They went to the UK because Chicago had to have money and William Morris. I think it was Jack Cal shine was there agent there. He said, okay. Harpo you're going to get seventy five percent. And she goes twenty five percent and dads. And no, I'm not going to fifty fifty split. And, and that was the way it wound up. And that's one of the reasons why dad was very hurt by Csikos goes behavior. Is that he was willing to do this, basically, for chick? Oh. Dad didn't have to go to the UK, really not because he had enough money. But he, he was tired. He finished a picture, and it was, oh, let's see nineteen. Well, eighty eight twelve and to drill, and he was already in his sixties. Here. That's, that's an imam saw the effect that it had on dad. And I think that's what really stayed with her, and why she reacted the way she did when Robert was there. Interesting bill. The one thing I really want you to mention that was just very profound discovery for me was when, when I came to visit you and I saw that on all the walls. There were paintings, and I asked you who are all these paintings by, and you said, dad, and it just blew my mind because I've been Marx brothers fan and particularly a Harper fan my entire life. You expect something different, you expected, photographs from the crash on the movies and the last thing I expected was to find out that my hero Harpo was a painter and really cared about it. And, and I was hoping and, you know, that was sort of for me. The greatest discovery in in writing this book. And then telling the story of Harpo and Dolly's short friendship but how it affected their lives in so many ways with Dali, you know, ending up writing this movie for the Marx brothers, and Harpo, you know, really, I think partially appreciating Dali's interest in him because, you know, he was painting to, and I think he appreciated that that artistry I was hoping you'd maybe talk a little about that. Well dad had a heart attack. I forget what year yet. If you start having heart attacks, okay? And he got very depressed because the doctor said, you will not be able to work for about a year at your profession. And so he got very depressed. And, and. Decided that he had to find something creative inside of himself. And so he discovered going back to painting it painted over who over the years, he had painted dabbled just a little bit here and there and there's a wonderful picture of a clown. That's in Harpo speaks at and picture of something they did a self portrait in my book. And so he, he went, and he started to pain, and he realized that this was another part of his passion of just discovering things he was, you know, he could have been Christopher Columbus. He was always out to discover something and. And, and he he just loved doing it. He would sit for seven eight hours in his studio working away, and think nothing of it. And then, of course he was able to go back to work, and, and then he had another heart attack. And then in nineteen sixty one. He was after that heart attack. He was no longer depressed. He said, what, what boy, am I being this way? I'm I'm from now on, I'm on, on velvet. I'm living on Ville, it that was his statement. And he. It changed his whole attitude about everything. And if you research, what he did in nineteen sixty one till the time he passed, in nineteen sixty four you'll realize the collaborated on a, an a biogra- his autobiography he did numerous television shows is as guest artist. He did number of concerts of charity concerts. He was all over the place. And even I think even played golf with Sam Snead at around in that time, there was a show called celebrity golf and he was more active in those three years living on velvet. Then he had been in the previous ten years. Love that love that. Expressway remiss if I didn't do a shameless plug for the Marx brothers TV collect Shohei decide which contain celebrity golf with Harpo and Sam Snead. Right. I heard I heard that he likes to occasionally take his clothes off on a golf course. Oh. You can I had the privilege of hawking his book, when it came out in paperback in nineteen eighty five excuse me and went up and down the east coast. And I wound up on David Letterman, and if you want, you can YouTube it, and it shows my appearance on the Letterman show, and I talk about being the first person probably that, that ever played around a golf with the guy who is totally news. I remember what Letterman ask you. Where did he keep the TS through? Didn't you say building, you say in your book that he would he would hit a couple of holes? And then jump at the somebody's swimming pool to cool off, and then get back on the course precisely a happy guy. It was one hundred ten degrees and, and down where he lived in Palm Springs and so but he was a, he could have been a legitimate nudist had. He not been a famous person. I love that. There's a phrase that Bill one. There's a phrase Bill once used that I love he called his father a pioneer nudist. I love that a scrape. What about this show that Harpo did a strange showing Russia? Well, I know that Robert would be able to tell you a little bit about that. I was never here I hadn't been conceived yet. No excuse Bill. I can tell you this Alexander Woolcott or pose great friend was really the promoter behind getting him to go there. He was the first western artist to go post Russian revolution to play in need and Soviet Union. And he went there in December thirty three he played Leningrad Moscow. And in Harpo speaks, there's just some one. I recommend everybody, who's hearing this who hasn't read her posture referee immediately catch up and go out and get a copy of that book right now, stopped listening to go, get Harpo speaks, well, actually after you get my book is on. Baiters book, right? Presumably, they have our book here, but he talks about the experience of going to Russia and creating showed do there. And there's a wonderful story where he is asked to do some of his stuff in front of an arts council of avowed communist with zero sense of humor in a clan world empty theater. And he's doing the thing is dropping the knives and they're looking at him. Like, who is this? What are we doing here? And I just read it and Harpo speaks it's charming, but he went there is almost like an arts liaison to the United States and he got standing ovations. And you know, he would joke about it because it was last name. Yeah. Yeah. Bill. The interesting thing that I took away from all of this is that he, he had to prove to the authorities that three nine three hundred knives in your suitcase was not to go after the, the head of the Soviet Union. And, and, and they said, well show us what, what it is. And he did his routine for the, the authorities, and as they and as they were dropping it turns out that they had a carpet, and you couldn't hear the the sound. Drafing which is half of them. The way he's spaced everything. And, and he was terrified that because nobody laughed at all. It was it was. But somehow or another. I don't remember why they still allowed him to do that. Ultimately just one of the main reasons was that Woolcott. Oh, was really kind of the reason that dad called, you said, you know, there's this lady, I'm confirmed bachelor and I'm forty four years old forty five years old, and she's pressing me to get married. 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Today, we're gonna talk about next up on the Muller report, rolls are going to talk about the difference between Democrats, and, you know, Democrats and finally, we'll look at the difference between moms and dads on the campaign trail. And I'm really excited by today's panel. We have the writer and host of the podcast, dole boys. So excited to have you here you guys. It's Nick liner. All right. We also have the editor at large for Esquire and host of the year with podcast, home of failure. Dave. Nick. How are you doing great? So good. Where are you guys ready to launch into this thing? Let's do it all right. Here we go with dubbing. Number one. The report drop last week and a delirious public nod at it like my roommate who found a tray of brownies that were not for her and ate the entire trae anyway. But now that we have a handle on some of the details. Let's start with the democratic side. We talked about this briefly last week when we asked should democrat pursue impeachment and it seemed politically useless, like they don't have the votes in the Senate to impeach. So why put the country through that? I mean they have the votes in the house to impeach. They don't have the Senate to remove. So I want to look at this again, briefly because if you put partisan politics aside and we didn't talk about this last week. One of Congress's jobs is oversight to be a check and a balance right on the executive branch and is it unconstitutional for them to abdicate that role in the face of actual crimes? You know what I mean? Like is strategic politicking. Like the thing we need to focus on all the time. Their principles thing to. Yeah. I mean I- path of that is, I'm not sure if I'm ready to concede that it's like strategic to not do it, like, isn't isn't there, a Simpson street value in pursuing impeachment? And maybe more stuff comes to light and maybe just through the going through this process going through to what you said their constitutional duty of oversight that, you know, that will fish shift things against Trump, though, shifting against congressional Republicans. I mean, that seems like that could be an outcome as well that I think is, is not being considered. Everyone's talking about this is going to be this political liability for Democrats to act, which is always like the consensus opinion about, like, oh, Democrats didn't do anything 'cause everyone's going to be upset. Right. Here's deal. Everyone's going to be upset anyone right there. He's going to call them obstructionist no matter what they do. He's been doing that forever. Even though there's not been that much to obstruct you know they're not obstructing nominees. There are a lot of PO posted nominees have not even been put up rate yet. The he puts the boy. Name on them. They don't deserve it. He's going to continue to put the blame on Democrats. They don't deserve it. So you might as well, do something right does, and the other interesting thing is like, we, we live in this world where Republicans own patriotism for whatever reason. Me. See fucking read. Right. So you on Syria thing makes less sense. It doesn't make any sense at all the, the right wing. Talk station is called patriot right? Like it's just it is full ownership of that brand doesn't make it any time. Yeah, you there's always either the word America or patriot or like something like that in the title. Yeah. You're right. That like it's unclear if it's not tradition. I think here's the fact of the matter, though, congress isn't going to do any legislating in the next year and a half. Right. Like, we all know that I'm going to do any legislating, so the shit done, Elizabeth Warren has been the loudest voice for impeachment and also the one with the most detailed policy positions. That point she is able to do both. You are all able to do both. That's I, I love when someone a little smarter than me says something smart. And I'm like I can steal that for later. That's a great. That's a great point on Warren. Yeah. 'cause she has been at the forefront about, like both a the both policy and, and deductible the impeachment stuff. Yeah, it's the whole walk and chew gum cliche. At the same time cliche. I think also to like the twenty twenty messaging will still go out there for the presidential candidates. The sitting members of congress can can be the ones driving impeachment. You know what I mean because even Jerrold Nadler, who's like supply is the guy that's supposed to be running all that stuff. He can start an impeachment process and run an investigation do all of that shit while also, you know, co-signing legislation for sure. If you know if there's going to be any legislating, by the way, there is a another one of those debt ceilings, coming up in September last fun for one and all. Having a party have some people over reliving in the era of the constant cliffhanger. Yeah. And I can't I can't do it. It's always sweeps month. Well ask spigot of performance here. Z GOP has been remarkably quiet on the Muller report. I will say, however, that Mitt Romney has come out. He basically it discussed expressed disgust with the president. I mean, basically started by saying that it was good news. There wasn't sufficient evidence that the president didn't actually conspire with a foreign adversary. Okay. That was great. But and then this is the statement he released quote, even so I'm sick and at the extent pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the president. I'm also appalled that among other things fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia. So that's probably the strong. I reaction we've got from, from the Republicans very little L O cropped out the part where he's like, but I'm rich yet. So my don't. My. All of these policies benefit me, so I'm not going to do anything. I think what's interesting about him is that like he sort of like h shit by having that one dinner with Trump where, you know, remember early on. He had like a dinner and they talked over fillets or something. And, and then he still didn't get secretary of state. Whatever he was angling for still like it was, it was Trump debasing him. It was just like, you know, like, basically telling him to, to bend the knee supplicant yourself. And then I'm not going to give you this thing you wanted anyway. Yeah. And then later on Romney was like a running for office within he did it again. He bent the right again or whatever. And now he's, you know. And then he wrote that up that was like a no trumps heinous. And now he's like, you know, tweeting, of course, you know, Trump responded with something about how he's a loser, whatever it doesn't matter. Mike Huckabee responded know what makes me sick mitt. Not how ingenuous you were to take Donald Trump's money, and then four years, later, jealously trash. And then love him again when you beg to be secretary of state, but makes what but makes me sick. I guess what makes me sick is that you got GOP nomination and could have been potentates so anyway, famous Smith. Mike huckabee. I interviewed him about his his comedy styling. Oh, leg about his influences about his process. Like is, you know, he's he's funny on Twitter. He's the funniest. He's his joke. Craft is phenomenal. And so I, I called like we spoke over the phone, and I had a very earnest interview with him about about influences, which include George Carlin, and Richard Pryor as you might imagine. I mean you can. Yeah you can hear it. But yeah, it was he had no idea, but Disney veil. Where was on the political spectrum, he, I don't know, right? Don't that's hilarious. But yeah. I mean if he if he was if he was, if he took my call and thought I was serious, which he did then I don't know. Is she has that like some of mitt Romney's positioning might just come off as like empty sanctimony? Right. I tell you this is. Yeah. And also, you can have that level, you can say ethical things because you'd Utah voters actually, appreciate you're getting necessarily do that for every state of the union. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people took Donald Trump's money, laying a blood of Democrats. He was a democrat five minutes ago that party that was flattering. Talk to me about why aren't we seeing more descent in the GOP will because I think that's the one thing like Twitter what you were saying about, you know, Romney's in Utah, and he's not up for election for six years, like the one political, the third rail right now on the GOP is opposition to Trump. Like you like you need Trump's supporters in order to win a primary in, especially in a lot of these deeply gerrymandered congressional districts. So I think they're just they're just afraid to touch anything. I would say that the thing the thing about Mitt Romney that kind of pisses me off is because, you know, despite the what you're saying, it's empty sanctimony. He's not going to do anything. It's, it's the it's this finger-wagging like how dare you, sir? Have you no decency sort of thing but he's ultimately going to support all of his nominees and all of his policies. It's just Jeff flake from a different, you know, and I it's more symmetrical exactly. Jeff flake. I'm sure you're like a lovely guy. It's fine. Like cost one as a metrical Asari. Sorry, I think I think Jeff flake and. I, I think a physical insult is okay for some people. No cash. I'd like my, my cheeks are burning anyway. But no, here's a Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa took this strong position. I think we all know who the president is he has a brash demeanor. That's all that's about. All I can say, that's what she said about the report Susan Collins said about the report the report offered, quote, an unflattering portrayal of the president very strong words there. So you were like, really not. Oh, yeah. Rob Portman Senator from Ohio said that the report showed a number of serious actions taken a number of actions taken by the president, or as associates that were in appropriate right? Yes. So that's, that's probably I mean, as far as I could find as harsh as they came, what I don't understand is like, how, you know, how is there not a couple of more nuanced camps? Is it so bad to say I don't really. Support this president. But I'm a staunch Republican. And here's how of you know what I mean, could we is it because there's just no real primary challenge. I mean is the data is everyone, as afraid of Sean Hannity. Say it might might come down simply to that, or it is, I mean, I think a lot of a lot of conservative people see in Donald Trump, someone who will do their bidding. All you have to do is say, I think you're very smart and handsome. And also, here's some things you should do as president does that when, when he when he is very head up about something, it is clear that somebody has just come in to the office and said, this is all very tasteful. Your hair looks greats. And here's here's a Bill Renner what I mean it's flatter him. And he will give you exactly what you want funny 'cause like, Lindsey Graham that, you know, they dug up audio Lindsey Graham during the Kenneth Starr investigations, where he said, basically up he was like these are great, we should do ever. You know, all of that, and now Lindsey Graham is the guy that's like calling for an investigation of the investigators right? And so, again, I think what's interesting is. What is the future of the GOP when they're when they're not clearly demonstrating any morals like this is not up if they're the rule of law party, you know, will ruin happens to the future of the GOP, they're not actually upholding the rule of law, right rule of law and law and order. I mean, those are kind of coded phrases. Right. It's like talking it's the the law protects us. But it does not restrict us from doing what we what like if you're in this group if you're if you're one of us, the law will protect you, but it's not going to stop you from, from doing whatever excesses, you wanna do. Everyone bend the law. And if you're outside of this group though, the law can punish you the law, the law is used as, as a way to enforce our thority and, and, and I think that's like, I don't think the I think they're, they're an inconsistently some people have pointed out someone you, you coined the phrase the cruelty is the point with regards to a lot of these abuses. And I think that's also as a similar with hypocrisy like Lindsey Graham is being hypocritical here. But the hypocrisy is part of the. Point that it the inconsistency lets us know that like we can do it, but you can't we can get away with it. But you can't Trump can do it. But if a democrat tried something similar, we will go after them, right? Cannot cannot, okay. I'm ignorant of this. How did the how did the. Okay Clinton's impeachment came out of whitewater. Yeah. Let investigation started with a real estate Ray. Right. Then evolved. He was just constantly under investigation, and then its its tentacles extended to include grab a blowjob, right? Many years after the thing that was being yet. Right. Right. Yes. So I don't recall where the Democratic Party was as far as like having his backpack. Then I think they were pretty the Senate was. Didn't do anything with the impeachment. So I feel like the party was essentially, you know, right. So the impeachment that process began in what ninety eight ninety nine it was, it was roughly around than. Yeah. I, I think I think it might have start earlier than that. And I think the actual impeachment proceedings were in that timeframe. Right. So then gore lost the next election by a razor thin margin. The economy was coming along nicely. Everything seemed to be going, okay. But they're, they're ju- the, the whole idea of impeachment, even though he wasn't removed it, it target. They. And it ended affected V tiny, you know, the sliver of our country that decides presidential elections. Why are we so afraid of it this time around now? It's like you know what I mean why I mean it's going to stick to him yet there is. There is a chunk of people in the center, I don't know how you can be in the center at this time in your life. But there, there is one and they, they do move from side to side. So keep put, don't let this go away. And the other fun thing is that, you know, as Joe Nadler is like subpoenaing financial records. He's all the Democrats are also being sued for trying to get the any kinds of records. So they're dragging their feet on regular doing all this stuff. So there is continue. I mean it's not like formal obstruction but this is like dragging your feet is a way of trying to get in the way of, of transparency and letting people know what you're doing. So I think that's another acting in bad faith that will stick to them, hopefully or maybe, you know, and the rhetoric of elections. Okay. Well, I want to end by. Asking you guys, do you what do you feel like our institutions have fared, well throughout this process? I do not. Got this whole thing has been democracy. Like ray? I mean yeah. Yeah. That is the that is the ideal that we're reaching for. But the one the real lesson of this whole thing is just an I probably smart, people have always known this. I maybe have just always been naive. But the, the point that keeps getting drilled into my head is that the rules are what the rich people say they are rules are what the powerful people say they are. And we can we can pay lip service to patriotism, and to tradition and all of this shit. But, like rich people are going to get their way he really can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue as a truth thing ever said, I know that I don't think that's fair, while it all because, it's, it, we see how, how likely they are to be subverted by partisan politics, by an specifically hear that, that sounds like a both sides equivocation. But specifically here the, the right wing. Is protecting its own the, you know, the richer protecting themselves as Dave was, and I think, also too, so much of what we're seeing specifically regarding the president is how much we've relied on, like self enforcement how much we relied on an individual just sort of being like I'm going to buy by these traditions, I'm going to release my tax returns because that's what presidential candidates do I'm, I'm not going to have a hotel with my name on it across from the White House because that's not technically allowed by the constitution. But if you just ignore those rules, say, fuck it. I mean, like, what if the supreme court ruled against Trump, why wouldn't he just ignore it? What makes you think he's gonna lie by supreme court? Trajectory. So much of what I thought were rules and traditions or institutions were kind of just agreements. I come back in norms, right? I come back to remember when we were when we were growing up, you couldn't advertise alcohol have beer and whatever, but there wouldn't be a vodka ad. And I was led to believe that that was like, you know, the FCC had like a very from rural against that was just an agreement, and then like cable networks were like, well, why don't we just not abide by that? That's money that, that we're leaving on the table. Why don't we just take today? And like I think kind of every rule is that it's just sort of a handshake, right? Hey, you know, we ended up with that. So we know that Erin. Paula Diddy vodka commercial. There was a lot of fun. Yeah. God saying it's why we're enjoying all the way. 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Progressive more socialists and skinnier refu- or blemishes, we wrote a piece in the New York Times called the democratic electorate on Twitter is not the actual democratic electorate ended addresses this very divide. So just first off, did this ring true that there is a divide between the, the two. I mean, of course, you know, maybe it's just real life. If you disagree with someone politically to be like your a corncob, you know, like, like, the, the discourses a little bit different on Twitter, but I also think too, there's just like such a large part of the population that is not even like on Twitter or maybe they have an account that they barely look at her something like that. You know, they set up to follow the voice a few years ago and they did. They pay attention to it anymore. I think it's a very small subset of, of the population is active on Twitter. And then of that active. It's like another sliver that has actually doing engaged in political discussion on Twitter. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. The, the, the Liz fan is not the Twitter. Liz. Oh, fast. It goes for everything. The Republican is not the Twitter. Republican a, you are always more extreme. You're always in a in a more vicious fight you, you get out into the real world. I took a break from Twitter last year, and it was the best thirty days of my life. Now it's the dream, why did I go back? I don't. Okay. So when you when you went back immediately, did you start getting like anxiety and weird feelings while you were like, why am I on here? Okay. Absolutely. And I have I've blocking strategies for treating get into later but when you were off and you move around the world you realize there are things that nobody in the world is talking. What's is nuts? Ben shapiro. Nobody really fucking cares. Once you get off the internet. You don't hear about him in real life. He is Carly. Rae jepsen basically, he's got thirty five fans and they're all on Twitter, and they're all real albums heralded. I love her. I love her. I'm one of the thirty five for Carly Rae jepsen but yeah, Charlie Kirk doesn't exist in real life, Candice, Owens doesn't exist in real life. These are all Twitter people. I think we, we are probably them for Democrats. You know, we get online more, and we argue a little bit more. But yet, and I, I don't believe that I am most people, right? I mean, I think we'll one of the things that I found interesting was that was the, you know, Ralph the routh northern example which is very recent. And you know there's this huge uproar like he should resign over the black face photos. And we talked about it on this show in on Twitter. Everyone was basically demanding his resignation. But when they did a poll and all the democratic candidates also. That's the other funny thing. The democratic candidates may be in response to what was happening on Twitter were also demanding his resignation immediately, how immediately. And so someone where someone was trying to cling all the time stamps of win. Presidential candidates were why we're weighing in. That's the other thing is that it's is that this the time stamp issue. Is it for it, something's trending? And then suddenly all of these important people are forced to take a very quick and hastily made decision because if you don't then you're over get. And so there's like that, you know, mob mentality thing that goes into the forces people to make decisions and take stances that they wouldn't necessarily take right now. So that's a like uncomfortable place. But I thought you know what this, I guess, were you surprised that like a majority of Julian's including black Virginians didn't think that north, I'm should have resigned. I think a lot of probably should resent didn't know about it, because it was it was a huge controversy online. And if you're not online, you hear about it. Also, like you know that was wrong, and it's ugly, and that is, you know, terrible symbol of our past, and, you know, black face has terrible implications and, and you know, and it resonates in awful ways, but you know he was young and things are different now. And what all of those things are nuance and nuance has no place. No. Yeah. Just say resigned. I mean, I think he probably should've resigned because it was like egregious. And it was really offensive to look at. And I and I think optically it's just bad for that person to be the top democratic official in the Commonwealth. But I like also. I understand that, that, that, that there's probably some, you know, that there's, there's always like some game theory going on. I feel like in, in, in the calculations of voters. They're always like yeah. This person is flawed. But they are, you know, the person that they are maybe the, the best advocate for this other reason, or they're just like it's not worth the rigmarole of getting rid of this person. Simply I, I just want to wait for the next elections this out. Right. Exactly. Also, another case, too, where I think everyone is expecting north him to resign in than what he didn't resign. Everyone's like, well, what do we know what it would you? There is a mechanic for moving for office, but it'd be like we're going to do that. I guess I guess he's still the governor. We're so we rely so much on self police, and they had that whole, there was an issue, because then the number two guy had sexual harassment claims against, you know, there was all this guy also. So crazy. Everyone ahead a black bass. I think you should have resigned when he looked around and thought about moonwalking press conference. Have you had a role? I can't believe what was actually hardened by because I, I am a fan of Elizabeth Warren. And the ancestry story isn't a scandal to most Democrats debris large road on Twitter. It was a big scandal to for Democrats on Twitter. So so that I thought was good because to me that shouldn't have been scandal. I don't know why we blew that up and what's going on. That's again, one of those things where I feel like I was being forced by Twitter to recognize something as a scandal when I didn't believe that it needed to have that much attention on it, because we get someone ad in you like like why haven't you weighed in on this? Like someone like like like at trying to provoke you to take on something like why did I don't want to weigh in on everything everything every single thing on Twitter is a proclamation? You're like you are putting your flag in the ground. And you're saying this is. Exactly how I feel about this right now. Everything we want to explain what one point five billion. Other Muslims are doing. Mostly my role a Twitter, so. Okay. So I wanted to share some of these stacked with you guys to, to show this divide. So Democrats who do not post political content social media are more likely to identify themselves, as moderates or conservatives. They're more likely to say political correctness is a problem. They're more likely to, to say that they don't really follow the news that much. So going to both of your point about, like, they don't actually know about some of these scandals, right? Because they're not following it, and they're actually more likely to be African American so there, that's you know, people who don't post political content social media, but of Twitter users eighty percent say said they were liberal of Twitter user who regularly post. Right. Eighty percents of they were liberal, a similar percentage said they had a college degree twenty percent said political correctness was. A problem and only two percent are black. So it's like the numbers are almost totally flip flopped river the reverse. You know it's funny to that, that eighty percent liberal number that you're saying because I feel like in the satement of left Twitter. I'm in, I always see people talking about, like, I'm not a liberal, a leftist like I'm further to the left of liberal IDO position myself in this, this. That's a mainstream sellout is a liberal leftist is a is reflects my position. Yeah, I, I think those numbers to me because so much presidential polling right now as it stands like eighteen months from this, this general election is about name recognition. Right. So it's like that. That's the kind of thing that makes me think that, like whatever's going on in this Twitter primary the actual primary. I'm not discounting the chances that Joe Biden could win the nomination because everyone knows who he is. And he has, like highlight ability, among the general, not the general the General Electric, but also, like the, the, the democratic prime. Mary voters. Right. Like he could that could be a thing like regardless of everyone condemning him on Twitter. And I don't think Joe Biden his far from a perfect candidate in man. I it's still could just could happen, right? Yeah. And d-. Well, another interesting statistic is only twenty five percent of Democrats are actually ideologically. Progressive left of center, only one in ten of those dentis socialists. Okay. So the entire movement in terms of democratic socialism is again, it's very fringe when we're talking about the general electorate, what does does this move you in terms of what who you think might be winning in the lead, you mentioned Joe Biden, where where does that leave a Bernie Sanders, which is leave, you know, some of the more lefty candidates low. I think also, I think, for the same reason, and this is maybe paradoxical for this be. But I think because so much of the electorate is not ideological so much of it is, like, we're regardless of how they. Identify like that's not what they prioritize. It's, it's I don't think Obama one and eight you win the primary for ideological reasons. I mean, the Iraq war was a big part of his candidacy, but it wasn't. It was mostly like this is an inspiring guy. I want to vote for he's, he's just an amazing candidate who makes me want like hope was his message that that was that was whatever we're over the route it. So I could see people getting behind Bernie basically for personality reasons, basically, like, yes. I like his message I like what he's saying. But also, like I just respond to this guy. He feels like an advocate for people like me. I mean sometimes it's just what it comes down to right. Yeah. But I also think if the electric was as left as Bernie or, and he would have one in twenty-six, yes. You know, Howard Dean would have won in whenever that was right. Well, but also both of those people were were people that the media kind of abused Bernie Sanders, did not get the media attention that Hillary Clinton got in, you know, in the last election and. Howard Dean was destroyed because he made a strange noise with his mouth. Yeah. No. Which they actually, like I heard like a podcast recently, where they like went back to that moment. And they actually talked about how the audio on the Mike, the microphone was both basically blowing out, and so that, but it was a direct feed into the camera so in rural in the stadium or wherever that was you couldn't hear that noise, you could only hear it if was being directly fed through this warped microphone anyways. So it was not even annoys. He actually made you know anyway. So frustrating that and Dan Quayle spin. It is spilling potato with an e where like that. That's the death note, this person's political future. Yeah. And now you can just let ever do whatever you want to have a face photo shared a bit to sexual assault seem Quainton. It really does really does. We are so cute. Douro vol-. It's I guess the lesson here is just that it's impossible to be moderate on Twitter. Sure. You know, if you if you try to have a nuanced position on anything, people are going to attack. You also you're not like it's, it's like the whole concept of hate mail. You get you know, you get love letters or you get hate mail. If you're if you're on TV or, or whatever you don't get like nobody's ever going to write and say, like, I think you're okay, your you know, you're six out of ten for me. You're not nobody is motivated to make that comment. Nobody's ever motivated to be on Twitter to be like, man, I feel wishy washy about this subject. Wouldn't that be like the most insulting fan mail, like worse than like hate though? Someone's eero. Right. You wait. You took the time six out of ten Jesus Christ. It's easy to like to completely tune out. Someone that's like actually got an Email the other day that was like you should stop doing all the things that you do delete, what you do, is that. And it was like it has a we've just kind of be like, oh, that's such a crazy fringe. Like you took the time out derive. But, like, if someone takes the time to write something very like just in the middle. I would be like thinking about it for the rest of my life. Roseanne on my thin. Eyebrows. High quality. I guess, well, and I guess at some point at every podcast we talk about Twitter being exhausting. It is exhausting. It's alienating and twenty even people like my mom or just like, why are you talking about Twitter all like she's like why you know, I don't know what, what to do. I don't know how to get out of this thing. Unless Twitter decide just like shuts itself, we have to and the thing is that the, the most damaging thing is the lazy post where it's like, you know, left-wingers going crazy about XYZ, and then it's you, you've cherry pick six things open door. Nobody's to prove some larger point right? You can find six people on Twitter to literally say anything anything at all. I'm ready for that, that whole thing to burn down. But like those kinds of posts do well the click Beatty, and they do. Well, what are, what are we going to do? Well, how do we solve a problem like Twitter? I, I mean, I know that I need to be off it can't be off solve a problem. Like. Yeah, I liberty a clown. I don't think that's because it's not going to be, we're not going to self medicate. Ourselves self heal ourselves by all getting off Twitter, you did it for thirty days in couldn't stay off of it. I you actively went back to a thing that made you feel awful. That is the definition of addiction. Right. So we're not capable need. It's kind of like there. We need a larger force at play. I feel like to you know, just needs to somebody needs to put yank the plug out of the wall and just shut it down forever. And now I mean that's it. You know, we're talking about Twitter. You're the article JR. Also just generally talked about posting online in addition to just Twitter. So it is, as all social media platforms can all suck. A dick is what I'm saying. Yeah, they're all garbage. I mean, like like regar- you Twitter. We, we clearly are on, and then also hate because we are on it. But, you know, like whatever. Evans says is that YouTube is actually, the more harmful radicalization plateau, because everything. Yeah. Exactly. And it just auto playing all this, this, this wretched sort of right wing propaganda that you'll get regardless of whatever you're watching I lately until media in the lie. I told myself about Twitter's at a need it for career reasons. And then meanwhile like in the four plus years, I've Jesus Christ probably longer than that. However, long have been on Twitter. I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of job directly from being onto it. I don't think I've ever been like, hey. Submit your Twitter feed, like for as a source of material for like a job. I I've been asked about, like Stephanie. I've been said like you may submit your Twitter feed, and I'm like, I'm not gonna fuck in some. It's garlic. It's none of let what am I submit something that matters that I laboured over that involves some craft did I don't know. I don't know. I got worked from it for sure. In the early years. It was great for joke craft right one hundred forty characters you had to get the point very quickly. I for sure got writing jobs from it. Nice. And so that's nice. And then in, in the neck like the next wave of it. I also met writing partners and people that I still collaborate with on. We got difficult Hypo from it, you got catastrophe for lovely thing that you're describing, I know I mean, it's gone forever in what we well, what we know to close out the segment is that Twitter is not an online social media. They're not Representative of the party at large. And when we have to remember that every time we hear a fucking scandal or like that, you know, some candidate where, you know, their, their candidacy is over because of something we, we somehow need to stop take a breath. And remember, it's not it's not necessarily happening that goes for the people that we disagree with as well. There are people who have guns, who are threatening to sue. Me. Yeah. On twitter. You know what I mean? Like, there are responsible people that I disagree with. Yeah. I we can't we can't take the can't cherry pick the nasty ones, and I read. Yeah. All right. You guys. Lewis move on to number three. So we read a piece in the cut by Rebecca or called mob versus data on the road to twenty twenty where she lays out our perception of female candidates has mothers versus male candidates, as fathers and up till now mom's on the campaign trail where apparently heartless and constantly had to account for the number of days. They didn't see their children. Whereas campaigning men were pathetic souls, who had a bundle of joy waiting at home to see him. How lovely how brave now has this perception changed? I think I think better Rourke would say there has, you know, he, he made that joke of like my wife ways raises my kids occasionally with my, you know, involvement or whatever which was like acute CBS sitcom kind of a joke that he got lambasted for, you know. And, and deservedly you know, like it's good that, like, we can kinda say, like, that's, that's shitty ran, you sound like a shady person. Would you say that? Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I think that perception is changing. Yeah. I think it's, it's chained I mean, you know, and there were people like commenting when he was on the road finding himself or whatever he was doing at in the office roms of Iowa ever. Then, you know that he was leave, you know, that he had left his kids. There was a, there was a detail in Vanity Fair piece about him that where that is eight. Well, there's, there's some things that I think are unfair. There was a detail about him that his son had said, please don't run for president eight year old son or something. It's like outcry all day if you run for president and he decided to run for president. Anyway. But I'm just like what family allows an eight year old to dictate family policy? I mean it's like you don't like letting a child dictate. Your career toys is like leading child dictate your career choices. You know what I mean? It's ridiculous. Cremating is it's over for him. So I'm like, that's the kind of dumb thing for everyone to, to hone in on, you know, I think, again, his joke was like you know about his wife is like, yeah. Like she probably she does do more of the parenting. And so is it is it somehow our way we can talk about that without it being weird or bad, or I don't know. But I think d-, do you think that let's talk about how some of the women could a women get away with what any of the stuff that Beddoe is done a, what that's specific or Mark? No ad. I don't think a woman could say that and could say, like, oh, my husband's raising the kids and I kind of like pop in there, I think that would probably they'd probably get it, even it'd be attacked even more than than Beto was right. Like a I think that a curious about this. What your perception of it is? Because they don't think I've seen. Gene, outside of Biden's family situation, which we already know about, and then Beddoes kids, so we saw it in that context. I haven't seen other candidates kids, all that much on the campaign trail yet. Have have have. They come up. I, I honestly don't know what, what is he has them who has kids? What's everyone said. Comal mother is coming here says the stepmother, but in she's like sort of proudly stepmother until the Gabbard which I don't know if she is terribly serious of the candidate. But anyway, she does not have children. Cory Booker doesn't have children dredges of their apparently like they're thinking about it. I don't know if it's via surrogacy or adoptive be Pete, and Chaston. Oh, got you got you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes. To take on all once. Yeah, but I don't know Elizabeth Warren has children. Her kids are grown, right. Chris kirchen. Gillibrand sellers, children at home. I'm glad you said it because they never know if it's a hard G or a soft g it's like give I go with Jill. Lebron? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I well, it's interesting. So back when Geraldine Ferraro was the VP on the Monday. Yeah. On the Mondale ticket, she was asked she was asked like how often see your kid from me like, and I think the husband said, oh, she's only not seeing them two weekends in the six year. She's been in congress, something like that. And, and then it was like, seemed like this is the thing that every woman is going to have to account for the years later. Wendy Davis out of Texas. Same thing she had to talk about number of it looks account for the number of openness, acceler spreadsheet. We wanna see which days, have you seen your children. That you've had this job. You am bishops. You know, a woman a woman being the insults. You know. So I think that I think was something that people always had to account for now. I still think that something people are, you know, like I don't I can't imagine that citizens who may or may not be considering Kirstin gillibrand or whoever like the people have kids at home. I think Kirstin gillibrand is going to have to account for what are you doing with these kids? And I think better work still doesn't really have to. Yeah. I think I think you're absolutely right. I mean it's gotten a little better and were self-aware where more self aware about it now. But I don't think in in just giving examples. So I as listeners now I have a newborn, she's four months old and right out the gate like the baby six weeks old. My husband gets job. He's an act tour, and he gets a job in Morocco. So he has to be in Morocco for seven weeks. I went and visited for six days, whatever. That explains my Instagram photos, people were very confused with the baby. I went I didn't leave. Her again, I have to constantly say things like that. He does not. So at no point. Did anyone ask him? Where's the baby? Who's taking care of the baby at, like no point. Was that a question for him with the producers he was working with or none of that me, I had gig around the same time I had gigs, you know, Oliver, the country, Chicago's in Antonio, whatever Pittsburgh, and I had people would be like wait, if your husband is in Morocco who has the baby and I would always, you know, go into a whole thing like, well, we had my mom. It's like they wanted details. Okay. So this time my mom's in towns, she's, you know, and then this time we got a babysitter doing overnight, like ridiculous. Right. I also had to take my baby with me on a gig while two strangers in the audience watched my baby, and I was on stage. And so I've done stuff like that. Not just pumping on the four, oh, five you guys I've like had to deal with a lot of these things, you know, because being a mother in America is being in enemy of the state, and so that's kind of like. What if feels like some of these situations? And I thought, oh my God. It's twenty nineteen where like around people in the entertainment industry, who were like, generally progressive, you know, lefty types, and I still get the question in my end. Jason doesn't get it. Right. So that this is still happening. Do you think there's a that there, there's any kind of political benefit to leaning in hard on being a mother? I mean it's. I mean, I guess it depends on it might be a different answer for the primary versus the electric the general election. The thing is, like again, I'm I not sure. How many candidates that applies to I think Jill? Lebron is the unique situation where she's got young kids, and I think that might just be her so yeah, I don't know. I mean, the, the issue is that with, with, with women. And I think this week's to what you were saying about everyone asking you while where your where your, your baby was while you were pursuing your career is that, like they they're still this perception, that being ambitious or prioritizing, your career are liabilities for a woman, and I think that's definitely true. In, in politics. You know. So, yeah, I, I don't know strategically. I, I don't know if I have if I have a strong take on that it's also funny, I mean, because I think at the same time, like, what are you guys think about women, like women who don't have kids? So the comma Harris's until till together like, is there some kind of a. They come off as harsher or less. I don't know less attic or something because they didn't have kids. I mean, we can't off the top of our heads name, which ones they are. So maybe not right, right. Yeah. That's actually a good point because I do I do wonder if like with Wisconsin Harris being a prosecutor and kind of being seen, as you know, too, tough on time or something in her history in California, if maybe if she had more of more children to let us us props. Saw that her image. Do you know what I mean or something? And maybe that's why you know, her her step kids, I guess, call her mama LA and, and that's something she kind of is in her profile on Twitter. So maybe, maybe that's you know, part of this is a little bit gross because it sounds like a little bit like just branding. I mean, we're talking about of these kids were ranting, but I think you know, there's there's something about, but the interesting thing is like Cory Booker also doesn't have kids, and I don't think it's I don't think anyone thinks about that. It's usually it's not like because also he doesn't have an expiration date on stuck in ovary. So there's that, you know, but no one has an expiration date on adoption. So, you know, people aren't saying, like, like, oh, booker's problem is that he's childless people are like, like, why isn't the why isn't he married? You know that's. And that's why I think, you know, he makes a he's dating Rosario Dawson is making a big show of, like, like, look, I do have somebody, you know, partly because they need to do that. Yeah, I think it's I think it's probably lose lose for women. It's like I think probably if you have children, then it's like well look like what are you? Where are your kids? Why are you taking care of them? And if you don't it's like, well, why, why don't you have kids? How can you have a perspective on, on a being president, if you're, if you're not a mother, so I, I think I think it's just another thing that women have to deal with that men, don't, you know, like, hate that, that narrative of, like us, you know, I think Tucker Carlson said something that AFC, not having kids. Yeah. Right. How could she poss- how could he more lies to me when she has never had children like to possibly? No. So he said something like that. I'm paraphrasing. I hate that because I'm like, no for most of my life, I didn't have a kid and I was really fucking moral. Like argued, I really I, I was I was I'm not your empathetic now that I have a child as you trying to tease, any sense of what chucker calls and says, is, as it's as futile as trying to write like, like, look at based on Twitter is going to say something shitty about her no matter what. But I wonder if like other people might be thinking something about like that. Like you need to be apparent in order to have some kind of, like moral within the family values the whole Demi values argument and that the interesting thing about Sarah Palin who was also writing with, with a one year old right, when she was on the VP, Sarah Palin, interestingly was able to, like toll this line of, like I am a mother and lean into it, and I'm like mama grizzly way, the as this article points out. But she did it in a way that sort of like. Confirmed conservative family values. You know it affirmed those things as opposed to it wasn't like this ambitious woman out of there, that it was more like this is a mama, grizzly who happens to be on a VP take it. I don't know. It had the opposite effect. I think of, like, you know, another a woman like Hillary Clinton or something. Who's my Waseem as nakedly ambitious or adult children are the way to go? The. With Warren figured it out grown up kid. Right. That's yeah. Don't have to be, you know, you're not you're not like raked over the coals for not being with them. The other thing I want to say about women of a certain age in night because I was really uncomfortable. When people were shitting on Nancy Pelosi in issue, isn't she going to be the speaker of the house, again, and all of that stuff that she's too old? And, and as as, as Nancy Pelosi pointed at herself like no I mean I every other man got into congress at thirty. And I didn't do that because I had five children at the wait until my daughter was a senior in high. My youngest was a senior in high school before I went to Washington. So it's like, yes. So in in actual years, she might be older. But in political years, she didn't get to start when all the men started. So let's keep that in mind before we start calling every fucking woman, who's trying to do something in with their political careers too old. I think if you're going to zero in on age like that's not a Nancy Pelosi issue in. Congress. That's much of congress, particularly that. The, the Senate. There are so many just old ask people in the in the Senate and, and, and in, in congress as well. It's just, you know, that's, that's not specific to her. No. I mean I hear you on the just everyone's too old right now. Right. You're right. That put that, that fixation on Pelosi was like in a way it was it a. Yeah. It didn't take into account her specific situation. Yeah. Yeah. I also wonder whether regular people care, you know, I want your Twitter, they might be twitted thing like if you really polled, you know, a thousand people, what percentage would be able to name Obama's kids. Sure we know. But, like I don't know that a lot of people do really or a first family that maybe, you know, but maybe not I don't know or if they could if they could name, Jimmy Carter's kid, or whatever, ultimately, I don't you know, I don't know that people care them listeners. Let us know what Jimmy Carter's kids names are. Just one. Tweet at me over post on any of the miserable social media platforms that we should not be on. A you guys. That's the end of the show. We did it. And I always like to ask at the end of the show, and we can connect back to whatever topic we discussed here. How do you guys feel just in general? I mean about the state of the Republic nervous at all times got it. But I am committed to here's how I feel right now. I feel like everyone is acting like it's a long time ago when it is not a long time. It's now I I'm hearing all these dumb arguments about what is and what is not electable and it's like poll, your fucking head out. And look at who is in the White House right now anything is possible anything's possible. So if, if somebody aligns most closely with your beliefs, don't give me this bullshit about like this kind of person isn't electable, because they don't have kids or they're gay, or they're black or whatever, like fucking get out and. Push. Get out and push, call ten people and make just make your make me make your pinions. Now, make it passions known push like get out there and fucking do it. And if you person doesn't win and somebody with who only agrees with you seventy five percent of the time gets the nomination fucking get out and push for that person. I feel like we're we're like we're defeating ourselves before we even start. But without looking at what the world is like right now, because the other side had passionate was just like I am going to fucking. I want to get out and push. Right. They never could they elect ability was not the concern of now, Trump's supporters, they will just like I like this guy, and I like what he stands your name everything that sucks about him, which is insane. Did you vote for somebody that whose skin looks like that who's hair looks like that? Who's voice sounds like that. Who says the dumb things he says who sits on a toilet in tweets all day, who picks fights with people gives people nicknames? Would you vote for that? No. Of course you wouldn't. But they did enough people did. Yeah. You know, I just and you know, a topic we didn't touch on today is, is climate change. And that's what I feel like consumes so much of my thoughts today and just, just like I think that they, I'm just viewing so much of what's going on when politics through the prism of, like, what if the, the world that we know now is unrecognizable twenty years from now they could just we get in this downward spiral of climate feedback loops that that make the, the world just uninhabitable. Make feel completely different than what we currently have the thrust our political system into chaos. I read this book called the uninhabitable earth, which I would strongly recommend to anybody. And it it just as one bullet point it talks about is kind of like this, this looming possible, apocalypse is that as the. Concentration of co two goes up in the air, it will make us all dumber and angrier. So like as sets what's yet because we'll have a less oxygen in our brain. So we're all going to be like, like like like not be able to understand what's going on, and then also be matter. So that's just going to exacerbate existing global tensions. I just think we might be heading towards a larger issue that people that were just unprepared for. So, you know, like, like, like I'm, I'm definitely worried about twenty twenty. I'm very I was optimism after what happened after twenty eighteen but so much of what I'm thinking about is, like, has my on twenty thirty twenty forty twenty fifty and I'm just like what, what are we? What are we going to do? How is the world going to deal with this, which I guess, that sounds nihilistic but I would to be honest, like, I that's that's a, that's a lot of how I feel about politics in general right now is the Philip climate change is such a big issue. And we just need to do something about clinical party thinks it's a Joe, exactly. Yeah. Pete buddha. Jj actual. Really, I don't know. I don't even know if this is specifically he's referring to climate change. But I read it that way, he said something like I wonder what the world will be like, when I'm Donald Trump's age and that is like, let's all think about that because you're gonna live for a while. Like do you want to see do you want to live in experience the garbage? We're going to have to experience because it will we're already seeing it. We're already seeing it, you know, I grew up in Palm Springs. And we add, maybe two or three days of clouds a year. Like, literally, it just never was never ever ever cloudy or rainy, or anything. And now we're up to like, I don't know two or three weeks of rain a year. And I know that still nothing. But it's I mean it say it's just not built for it. It's a desert. It's not supposed to have rain is just not supposed to have rain, rain. You know, LA this was the record right? The the largest rainfall on record. And so you drive around the southern California CD's beautiful green rolling hill. It's a desert guys. They're not supposed to be green rolling hills than burn into the dry out in the summer and then turn into kindling for fire. That's what happens. So we're seeing it. It's not something abstract. You guys thanks so much for being on the show. Can you guys tell Nick, let's start with you? The people fake the nation where they can find you how they can like follow your work and like get all up in you. I'm on Twitter, the hell site. We all hate at Nic wider, and I try to, they can't help would re tweet some political things, but I try to tweet more about, like just like basketball and stuff. That doesn't make drive me crazy. But yes, I am on there and then also my podcast about a much lighter topic chain restaurants, still, boys. I host with my friend, Mike Mitchell. That's you could check out our Twitter at dope, boys pod, or just go to us. We're on the head gum network. Wherever you got you find podcast. Download and listen. Yeah. I am also on all the platforms at Dave Holmes and I'm here to your wolf with homophobia. If you're in LA on April twenty six Friday, eight o'clock, my friends got Kimball and I do a show called the Friday, forty two topical gameshow forty questions about the events of the last seven days while we all drink forties. And. Tyler and Luke, no will be there and it's gonna be a ball. Nice guys. Definitely go see that. And definitely subscribe to the Doboy us. 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This is the liberty beat produced in partnership with SNL as news in listeners like you the liberty beat his online at liberty beat dot news and SNL, S dot news. I'm McMurdo reporting for the liberty beat reminding you spread liberty with a smile, Jim Rome here. When you want expert advice, you go to a pro. Some folks consider me a pro at sports, in as a pro at sports, here are some simple advice, the might help you out when you're hitting the sports book. And a buddy of yours tells you he has a quote sure thing you want my pro tip, go the other way. There's a reason why casinos pop up from the ground every week in Vegas. There is no such thing as a guarantee in sports in less. It is the warriors winning another title. And when you're looking for pro tips on vehicle, maintenance or repair look, no further than O'Reilly auto parts. Whether it comes to replace. Your battery getting advice on proper car, maintenance or even just getting the best bang for your buck. Their expert team can help you out every step of the way. O eilly auto parts, better parts. Better prices every day. Take me back. Roger, what possessed you to put that dude on your show? I sit in the limo for two guys in the history of blind date. One was Ryan Seacrest. And the other was J. Freaking stew. Jim, you think I got where I am because I'm talented no. Welcome to episode eighty to the Jim Rome podcast. So glad that you here to give this thing a spin because my guest this week is a very good friend of the program and an OG Roger lodge. Now if you flipped on TV in the late nineties early two thousands, then, you know, Roger from the greatest dating show of all time, blind date. And if you have flipped on radio in southern California since then, you know, Roger from his daily sports talk show, the sports lodge between it all Roger has been a mainstay in the jungle, and was a frequent forum guest on Jim Rome is burning, we had a tend to get caught up on, and I could not be more pumped to share this conversation with y'all because it was a blasted track. Ziada is we go now at the episode eighty two with Roger lodge enjoy this because I know you will. This is awesome. We have tremendous history in this guy. He was a staple on my radio program and my TV show back in the day, but it's been a minute or two since we've gotten caught up Roger lodge, not only on, but he is in the House, Mr forum, how you live in Roger. How is everything God? Are you kidding me? The fact that you just brought up the Mr. forum moniker that I sell self imposed upon myself while Ray Ratto is taken a drink out of his coffee Cup on the set of Roma's Birdman. I cannot tell you, what a thrill it was for me to get a call from you guys and to show up here today. This is big for me. Jim, I really appreciate it. It's so good to see when it's all coming back to me right now. You just reset one of my favorite things from J. Ray Ratto with that patented go to the mug while on camera move only got a guy ever did it and could actually pull it off. And you can't teach what raise Radha was doing on the set that afternoon. I'll never forget it. The only thing bigger for me in the history of my so-called. Career was J stew on blind date which was the you know that just head and shoulders. The greatest mole, I'm gonna get going to get there. I can't wait. Get there before. And you. So Roger, you've had an amazing career. Let's start with sports forest. You've had a long running talk show here in southern California, the sports lodge. How is business? How long have you done that show? Now, Jim imagine this. I'm a kid growing up in Lakewood, California tool five oh, two wilder right down the street from here about twenty minutes. And I grew up in halo honk from the time I was six years old. I was in angel fan listening to dick emberg with my little green transistor under my pillow late at night, I was supposed to be sleeping, but no, I had my dick emberg. I had my Halo's a now I've been in business with with the angels on their station. AM eight thirty out here in southern California. I'm going on my eleventh year. Just got renewed for two more. Good for you. Congrats. Thank you very much. And I just wanna say this before we go another thirty seconds. You're the guy the gave me my shot in radio. You're the guy that allowed the blind date dude to come in and host. The Jim Rome show when you were in the basement, and I it to you. I mean you gave me a shot gave me the confidence. And, and I studied, you, you may not know this, but when I first started hanging around the Jim Rome show, I studied, you. I watched you. I watch you interact with your crew. I watched the work that you put in, and I can tell you I've been around this business for a long time. Now, I've never learned from anyone more that I learned from you, not just what you on the air. But the work that you put it it's a grind and nobody nobody will ever outward. Jim rome. So thank you for all you tell them. That was so unnecessary. I really appreciate CNN, but that was so, unnecessary and congrats on your getting the deal you mentioned dick Ambrose. Can I tell you what I went when I grew up in the valley and played little league baseball in Sherman, oaks literally? Oh my God. My son just wrapped up a career there. I don't get it. Sure. Renounce. Yeah. Right. So you wanna see what I'm saying? Now, dick Enberg like you, you and I are pretty close in age, dick Emery was the guy he he had a son that played in that little league and he would show up on occasion to the ballpark, and I'm talking dick freaking Amberg in his prime and all his glory, man. That was something to see, I mean when dick would show up there and kind of watch kids play ball men. That was an awesome time. And Jimmy knows well as anyone. There were not enough owes in smooth than described, dick emberg. Not only was he smooth on the air. But back in the day, dick Emery was good looking dude, hanging out with CLYDE, writing Jim forgo see I guarantee you. They were getting done on the road. But the have Jimmy to have dick emberg around, are you kidding? That must've been awesome times, man clubs Russia. If you grew up in angel fan, what's it been, like, I'm you've had the best seat in the house, you can go there and you pretty much have the free run of the place. What's it been like to go down there and work, and see one of the best to ever do it might trout night in and night out? And maybe what is something that people nationally? Do not know about him that should. About him. I'm going to tell you story right now that I think has been told in everyone needs to know it might trout, just signed that unbelievable contract for a twelve year contract with the angels, and I talked to Craig Landis his agent about that process. And they started here, the angel started here, then they started the come closer together. They were getting pretty close. Craig land is Mike trout's aging got a phone call from Mike trout. And he wanted to get this deal done, and he said the Craig Landis Craig, I can't leave him. I can't leave the kids and Craig thought, what are you talking about the kids down in the minor leagues? So you talking about the youngsters on the angel in the angel clubhouse, and Mike. Trout said, no, I can't leave the kids at hope hospital in the cancer ward, I visit on a monthly basis, I can't leave the kids at the schools that I visit in southern California. I can't leave the kids. The come out to the. The ballpark every night to get my autograph and go out of their way and try everything they can to come. See me play. I can't leave the kids, get this deal done. Let's do it Mike. Trout. You can talk about Mike trout. The baseball player. We're talking about a seven time all star. You know a back to back all star game. MVP two time MVP should be four six times silver slugger award winner, future hall of Famer Michael Nelson trout, what he does on the field is one thing. What Mike trout does off the field. Jim. I've witnessed it this guy is a rarity. We've never seen a superstar go out of his way for the fans, especially the kids, like Michael Nelson trout, he's amazed. That's a great story. That's a great story. And to be fair. I've seen this. Like I've gone to those games. I've been on the field. It's all true about my trout and the kids. I mean, he loves the kids absolutely loves the kids, so I'm not surprised to hear that. I haven't heard that part of the story, but I'm not surprised Roger blind date, Jay right to it. You, you had an amazing run as host a blind date de alternate dating show to this day, nothing. Even comes close. What do you remember about the audio portion? How did you get that gig? There was no other Asian. There was. There was no other Jim imagine this imagine this. I am the apartment manager in my Bill. Building. I'm working as a waiter, I'm guest hosting on talk soup on e inter taint. What year is this? This is ninety seven. I want to say ninety seven I go to one on dishing. I I'm in the I'm in the middle of a two week, run hosting talk soup on e enter taint. I get a call after I finished up an episode. I was filling in for. He was either John Hinson say Hansen, right? I think I was filling in for Hansen so I get a call. Do you want to go audition for this dating show? Jim, I had no business talking about dating. My, my personal dating back then was complete and utter dumpster fly. So I go in I go in to audition. I mean it wasn't a goal Roger. The kid you want hosted dating. I go into this audition. There's literally two hundred people in the room. There's male female Caucasian, African American Asian little people, they had no idea what they wanted in their host for blind date. But in the audition room there was a sign in written on the sign. It said, we are looking for the talk soup mentality the tongue in cheek talk soup mentality is the host for this new dating show blind date. Again I was in the middle of a two week talk soup run, the addition was on a Thursday. I left the audition, I called my agent and said, just tell him to watch talk soup. I'm being I'll be hosting at all weekend. Right. I mean, the took some web OTs to do did not man. You walk out of that audition said watch me on talk soup on Monday, I war on Monday. I was screen testing for the host of blind date. And the rest is history. We had a nice seven year run in first run syndication on. Three four five times a day, and some of the biggest markets in our country. What was that? Like I mean, you, you have done so many different things in this business. But man that show that was one of a kind. What was it like to host blind date? It was just there's nothing that I could say on camera that would top what we were watching, you know, it was just such ridiculousness and people's people's interpretation of how they should act on television on a date. It was just incredible. And so for me to try to top that would have been a big mistake. So I came back usually did a quick look and got the hell out of there, because nothing was going to top it, they were doing. And one of the biggest thrill for by the way that, that could not have been easy because when you watch the shit that was going on back then, and you were so that show was so far ahead of its time now when people show up on TV and unscripted TV's, we know as most scripted bullshit, ever man, that show is different people were doing things back then that we're not done and for you to kind of lay out and let them do it. And then you. Get in wise, crack get an a good line or two. That was it was so tight. It was so good to watch. Thank you so much. And I met the Super Bowl this was down in San Diego. Okay. So we're down to San Diego doing the radio row thing that you're well aware of and I am doing I forget, what station I'm doing. But as I'm doing a radio hit Bob Costas walks into the room of radio. This is Bob freakin communists, you know and from across this giant convention center. Bob Costas, sees me and he starts walking towards me. And I'm looking for Ashton Kutcher because I'm thinking I'm being punked because wine the hell with Bob Costas know who the blind date dude is Bob walks right up to me. Okay. And I finished my radio hit and he says, Roger, I'm Bob Costas, very nice to meet you, and I just want to tell you that my stepson a night, watch your dating show every single night. And the way you host it is absolutely brilliant. It's genius the way you. Just set those people up and get out of the wick, this is Bob caused crime hosting that's incredible. It was unbelievable. That's incredible. I mean for one thing for him to know you and say, I love your show, but for, for Bob costs to say it's brilliant, the way you set them up and stay out of the way and do what you do. That's the highest praise imaginable. Can I tell you what Bob Costas just all the time in the world for it? You get here's the thing. I'm in Cooperstown New York last summer. When Vladimir Guerrero became the first angel to be inducted into the baseball hall of fame. I know the Bob's going to get an award that same weekend. I have a fifteen year old son, who I think is Jake Jake terror your boys, fakes it shakes eighteen eighteen. Okay. So, so my son's little younger than your boy, Jake. So we go to the induction ceremonies with the angels sent this there. It was just an unbelievable fantasy weekend. So I know cost it's going to be there. My son Peyton wants to be the next Bob Costas. Right. So he's telling me all weekend long. He's saying, well, dad, you know, Bob Costas, right. I see his name in your phone. Can you hook it up? And I get a picture with them. Can I meet my hero? Bob Costas pressures on now. I got this done. So I start texting Bob. I'm getting nothing back and three or four days. Go by Bob Costas is basically stiffen these big time in me. Right. We get to the hall of fame and cost has this unbelievable speech. He was just unreal. His speech was so brilliant. So after his speech and after he gets the Ford Frick award. We go to the baseball hall of fame. I'm in the baseball hall of fame in Cooperstown. New York Costas has now I'm I've worked my way with my son. I'm about, oh, about twenty feet from Bob Costas. I'm standing talking to Dennis cool. Who's the chairman all those baseball and I'm also talking to Raleigh fingers and stand cast in who runs. That's the kind of conversations you have cash that right? So I'm standing there. And my son is nudging me saying dad, Gary, as Mr Costa's is twenty. Feet from us. Can you get him over here? And I'm thinking, wait a minute. Now I'm gonna look like a complete jackass because I've been texting Bob and he's big time may I got no shot with caused his ear. What am I gonna do remind him who I am? You know what Dan hacks, that he's been deleting cost his turns, and he sees me? I swear to you to Pistol Pete who is my God. This is a true story cost us notices me does the cartoon double-take he stops his conversation with Greg GAM singer, from the MLB network. And he comes walking directly to me. He stops remind reminding you now we're standing in the middle of the baseball hall of fame and cost us says, may I have your attention, please. This is a special night in Cooperstown. Roger lives from blind date is with us that we could call Bob right now. And he could confirm that story, I believe that's for rentable and made me a hero with my son. It's a night. I and my son will never. Forget, he's incredible ops. The past what rates are so good on that is so good. A listen as any coach Jim, we'll tell you the foundation of any great team is great talent. We know this. So it's no surprise that teams dedicate so much time and effort towards finding that talent the same rule applies. When it comes to hiring, you need top talent. 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Roger, what possessed you to put that dude on your show I in the limo for two guys in the history of line day? One was Ryan Seacrest. And the other was J freaking Stu. But Jim, you think I got where I am because I'm talented. No. I got this. I kind of get it. I get how the business works. And I knew that if I if I brought Seacrest on, I was going to get a lot of play you are Jim Rome. It's the Jim Rome show. I got J stew on blind date. You don't think you guys are going to have some fun with that in eight hundred sixty five markets, you're in. So that's what we did. And J Stu. Let's face it. He brought something to the table, this guy. He brought it during his voice you get to that point. Let me take you back. Now, this was three months before the episode aired you came in studio, and you'd. You did a prescreen interview a stew. Here's a clip from that day, sixteen years ago, I want you to listen to this so before Roger lodge conduct say small and brief interview Ajay's do let's do what's your reaction to all this? You give kind of a mixed sampling of he's going to bring it to. He's going to flame. Spectacularly stu. Are you going to pull this off? I'll tell you what I'm going to pull it off. In the reason why I came in today's because I sense that Roger is losing faith in me. And I, I wanted to go on the year and dispel all the rumors. I'm not looking to get on the show and be a jackass, and I'm not looking to go on the show and quote, lay the hammer, I'm looking to fall in love. I'm trying to meet looking for that special someone. I'm trying to meet the girl of my dreams Salish is packed his right up. He just said that he's had sixteen hundred dates in only one couple of gotten married but you were looking to fall in love. Hey, why do people play the lotto Romi? You know what I mean? There's a one Jillian chance. But that one person that wins or thrilled. They did it. So Jay Stu comes into comes on blind date. And he. The find that special someone he's going to be Dan. Glad he did Jay Stu. What is the number one thing, the number one your biggest turnoff in a woman, I think any woman that walks with a wimp is a turn off to me. All right. So Roger before we go to what would actually happen to the episode. What was your reaction to that? We still feel good about that. You remember. What was going through your mind after the pre interview? Yeah. I knew the J Stu was going to bring it because there are certain gamers. They're just guys you turn the lights on and things are going to go. Well, you want J stew in that situation was like giving the ball to Leonard with ten seconds left on the clock. Something good is going to happen. And that's exactly what happened in L. Never forget, as long as I live, Jim. How about the moment, let me take you back. Jay, Stu goes up his date. He goes to pick up his date. And by the way, you don't think I went out of my way to find J Stu a very attractive young lady of Gore's like did. So he shows up to pick up his gal she comes out, and they start to head to that Ford Expedition that every fricken date or on blind date. Drove so anyway, that come out to their for he stops. He stops for a moment and says to his day. Oh, hold on a second. Honey, I wanna make sure I got enough cabin. For tonight and he pulls out a wad of literally ten thousand dollars when we had a nice close up of that only Jason could pull that off any pulled it off. Masterfully. All right. So that was not the only thing he did though. So the episode airs in may of two thousand three and in effect. The guy shows up as just a jackass that he promised. He would not be if you have not seen the episode or you do not remember, the episode Alvin has put together a quick montage of what happened. You have problems with dry skin, a lot of my life. And my dermatologist told me that Americans have dry skin, and other countries that they've once or twice a week. So then their skin naturally moisturizes, their skin gross. I I go three and four days without bathing showering, or soaping. Isn't that something you want it? Well. Gift three reasons why man gets married, probably first and foremost is security number two is to have a life partner. And number three is. Somebody to get you your beer. That's close there. The second one nine Jerry chips, you got there. What about the boy? It's pretty friendly doing just whether here goes wrong. You don't just you can't find this. And women think that sexy. Why why why why why why, why why, why? It looks like three boilers. Jason is on my type Nydia. And I don't ever want to see him again. No second date, one of the gray. Posts state wrap-ups of all time, radical sixteen years later, when you hear that what kind of thoughts you had that. That it was probably top three greatest dates of all time, and without question, blind date, hall of fame material, just absolutely fantastic television. All right. That was so great now you would come on this show, and you would come on my chair, I be show on ESPN and men. And there's so many great conversations. We had nobody likes a cheapskate Roger nobody no names mentioned tiger. Woods, Scottie Pippen, and everybody else that you expose back in the day, while on GRIB do you, remember this? Raj completely inappropriate. Guys. I was awaited for fifteen years. You see me running around on TV calling out the bad tippers in this town. I would never want to call out. I would never want to call out and barest guys like Don Cornelius unfold train. I'm not that kind of guy. Okay. We'll say something new. It was not the right venue to call out Pistol Pete for his tipping etiquette. Completely inappropriate, by the way towards Thurs. Good terrible tippers. All right. So to the best of your knowledge did any of these people learn there? Lesson and learn to shake themselves, and do the right thing. Probably not over the years because Jimmy, and we've talked about this before I was a waiter for fourteen years in southern California going on auditions after audition after audition, and I can tell you the best tippers. We just lost one of the all-time, great tippers recently when Tim Conway passed away, one of the greatest tippers of all time Jay Leno unbelievable Tipper Richard Simmons. We would fight over Richard Simmons when he came into Santa Pietro's up on the top of air Beverly Glen in Mulholland Drive up in BelAir. It was one of the most spectacular places ever. They all came in there. So I can tell you, the greatest tippers and the worst. I just did years ago, Don Cornelius, and George Thorogood. He was bad to the bone with his. And then, of course you had well, you know, I'm gonna stop there because I don't want to go on and on. And tell you what a horrible Tipper Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was that was awful. Do I'm ROY surprised to hear that. Surprised to hear that? Do you know? Do you know that I grew up in Beverly Glen park? Yes. So right there. Do you remember the Glenn center? Joe? That's why I brought it up. And I worked at a restaurant called Santa pitch Vanna white boyfriend Jorge Santos premature was the owner of the restaurant and everybody came up there. Jim, I could tell you store it. I would I only a story, I'm writing a memoir. It's called confessions of a Hollywood gypsy, because Jim, I have done every job there is known in this business. I was a stand in for John stamos back in the day, working on a sitcom where I would be on stage every single night doing scenes. With Jack Klugman to set for camera blocking, I'm on. I'm working with Jack Klugman. I mean he was just unbe. What was he like he was amazing and nobody out? We know when we started here, I talked about the fact that no one's going to out work you and we know, guys in this business who are like us skip Bayless. No one's going to out work grind. Bayless. He's a grinding works. Jack Klugman from the. Odd couple in from Quincy. I mean this guy was a EMMY award winner. Great story, John stamos, and I are we're in the business because we're trying to meet girls let's face it. This is, you know, we're in our early twenty s about you guys, you guys were very close, then instill are now you got to have roommates for more than ten years at thirteen years. Yeah, he was a John stamos a big big baseball fan. He walked in my room when morning, there was ice used to have a big poster of Babe Ruth above my bed. This is how much Johnny knows about sports. He walks in. There's the poster the Bambi. No. And he says do why do you have that poster Willie? Mays your bad. There you go. John stamos. But here's a quick story on Jack Klugman stainless, and I in the commerce, here we go out to lunch, and we come back, and we walked through the stage that is completely dark and because everyone's out to lunch, and it's a completely dark stage and we hear this crashing of glass, and we go over the c o o something fell someone's going to his cost in the production company, a lot of money. It's jack. Klugman on a dark set working on a little piece of physical comedy, everyone else's out to lunch and they're having a great time. Here's a guy that won ten EMMY awards is on the set during his lunch break working to perfect a move of physical comedy. Jim, whether it's this business show business, you don't get great by accident. Who works the hardest. Oftentimes of the guys who succeed for the longest so well said, all right before you go Roger, and I could do this all day long. One of the things that you did back in the day, you would host the jungle. Yeah. When I went to the basement, that is not an easy gig because the clones are not easy to deal with. And you know, this me, give me an example. Go back go back a decade two thousand eight you did the show and then I came back the next day I wanted to hear this phone call that I took from guy named Kevin in Tampa. Check this out. Kevin in Tampa. Good. Have you Kevin? What's up? How are you? Are you doing, great, first of all, I just like to say what have you packed? I was tired of hearing Roger lodge verbally, make love the patriots and make out with Tom Brady's. Butthole. Why can't believe Iran that guy? I ran that guy. It's been a long time, but I think the I oh you the right to respond to that guy who accused you of making out with Tom Brady's butthole, if you'd like to if you're a regular listener the sports lodge in southern California on AM eight thirty home of your halos. Tom Brady is clearly my man crush. That's the guy and think about what he's gone through in his career. I mean, different different players, every single year that, you know, the way the NFL is set up. Now, the fact that this guy has been able to do what he's been able to do with so many different running back, so many different wide receivers and him and Bella check what they've done in today's National Football League is so extraordinarily enough cannot be said about my Tommy, it's just unbelievable. He's still say something you out in front of that. Preach. And by the way that call did not age. Well at all. I got your back on that. Hey, now contractors can rely on Ferguson to provide a winning game plan for any job. Any day, and thanks to their pro pickup service. You can choose from thousands of products to order, online, and pick up in store, which makes doing business with Ferguson. The easiest part of your day. Before becoming a legend, in the entertainment game you a legend of so Cal hoops, you dominated as a guard. It's Rados high school. You wrote riding coattails was none other than my man, Ben Howland back in the day, Joe gigs -actly when he was assistant at UC Santa Barbara, he goes on to UCLA leads him to three final fours Benz, intense. Now, what was Ben like back, Dan? And how was his game, then would give me rides home in his GRANDE Torino? He was he kind of saw a young version of himself in me. Ben was a senior at torito's high school when I was a freshman and I was good enough to play on the JV team. And they'd bring me up for tournaments because like shoot the ball Jim, I always and anyway, so Ben was absolutely another guy. Nobody got the practice earlier and no one left later than Ben Howland. The guy put in the work and to watch him, go to three straight final fours with UCLA. And now he's at Mississippi Mississippi State doing a terrific job. To answer your question. What was he like, nobody worked harder than Ben Howland? Because this guy got further with less talent than any basketball player I've ever seen. The guy was lights out mid range, and he played defense every single possession and been been hit hard as hard as anyone. I've seen play the game. He was fierce right now Roger before you go. Finally, you're a game show guy. He didn't go good host one game show. Currently airing or otherwise. What would it be? I think I'd go prices, right? I think that before they rolled withdrew I was out on the road hosting the prices right lie. What was that like is unbelievable? 'cause Jimmy, no. I'm a people person. I'm working with the angels now on AM eight thirty one of my favorite three or four times a year. I host a thousand screaming passionate angel fans we sit in the upper deck. Run, man. It is a kid. I'm a people person. I love people in the price is right. You know, the contestants are so energized and everyone's all fired up in thrilled to be there. I think it would. Be the price is right. I think so. One last night. And one of my favorite shows, you tell me if I'm wrong, it was such a good show that when I showed old clips on YouTube to my kids, they loved it when I may Janet, watch it who's not really the game show person. She loved it show pressure luck oh, the original pressure long now when they brought back the other one that was so great because it always came down to the last spin was legit. I love that show. You know you would have been a good game show host. I think there's still time. We gotta find a gay man for Jim would you love to do the hell, yes? Okay. You know. Yes. And we, we've been talking about what a grind this business is where do you go from here? Are you doing the ultimate gig or where give me one thing that you have not done that you would still sound like every producer I've ever spoken this conversation we have quite a bit? I mean you're right. It's, it's a really good question. And people have asked me that, you know because of this grind. I love this show. I love the franchise everything I have is because of this radio program, but when you've done this twenty five plus years, where do you go from here? The honest answer is. Is a love to hit another home run. I'd love to reinvent. I'd love to reimagined. I'm not exactly sure what that is. I don't know if that's I want to keep doing this as long as I possibly can. But I want to do something different. I wanna stretch a little bit. And I really don't know exactly what that answer. Is is it digital is it something live. Is it a game show? I don't know. But as soon as you come with that answer feed, it's me, gave Bill to answer the question, let me turn this around before I get at here. Let me this around a little bit the guests that walks through this door. You know, he's on his way here, you can't wait for him to show up because it's always good. Who is it? Steve Elkington is a real good guy from me. And the reason I say that is elk knows the show and elk is just dangerous enough that the stakes are high. Now you do this for a living. You know what? It's like the interview guys, the normally don't have anything to say don't wanna put themselves out there L is still my guy because year in a year out he delivers and he's a little bit dangerous a little bit dangerous Willie Mays did not go. Well for me. Give me the guests that did not go. Well. Kareem, Kareem, Kareem. I've told this story before Roger really quickly. So when I hosted talked to on ESPN, two TV break more Shapiro who's gone on to run the world was the producer and no matter who came through that door. He would pre interview the guest and I'd say, how was the guest and he inevitably he would always say he loves you? He can't wait to be on. He's a huge fan. No matter what when it wasn't always true. Not everybody's happy to see you, you know this. Right. So this went on month after month after month same stock answer he loves you. He wants to be here. He couldn't wait to do the program. He loves the show cream comes in. And I know that. Just seem weird to be like, why is he doing this show? This is not an easy show for anybody to do. I said Shapiro. So how is he he was good luck with that one boy? And so I go in the green room and I sit down just me and him me and cream high cream Jim Rome, ROY nice to meet you. I'm so glad you here. Thanks for coming. Do you have any questions? Can I help you with anything? Just looks me doesn't even respond. Wow. Just looks at me. I said, is there something that you wanna talk to me about before we do this? You. Okay. Do I need to walk you through any of this didn't even respond? Just looked at me. The weirdest most bizarre thing ever. I mean that made the Everett interview seem like a walk in the point is Alec doing now. Go out on set for forty one minutes to talk to this guy can I just tell you something before I get out? Yes, I never told you before when you were doing the talk show on ESPN two. Okay. When you were doing on the same may was on that little lot in Hollywood. They're all it would invite production or the production group, you're doing that show, right next door was another little building. I was hosting a show. Call the scifi vortex. Yes. I know it was like the entertainment tonight of science fiction, by the way, me doing a scifi show. I had no business doing that back, man, I walk I walk in the first day of the shooting, Mike. Okay. Who's this Yoda guy, what does he do not all about? So, so anyway. So I was hosting this little scifi show, right next door to where you were hosting. I used to sneak in and watch you host that show I learned from you, and I started by saying that I've studied your career, I think you're amazing you one of the all time greats in this business. So. So I think you for having me here today, and I thank you for all of the kindness. You have showed me and my family throughout the years. Jim. You're awesome. Sri friend, dude. I appreciate saying that again. It was so unnecessary. But you are an all time favorite. You are one of my personal and professional favorites. And this was such a blast man. You still bring the energy still bring the heat we still hilarious guy. And you've had an amazing career Roger to SOGA to see when I appreciate you and the friendship very very much again. Thank you. Very much honored to be here. It is summertime Henley till you the most annoying thing right now are flies and insects, invading, your home. I know I speak from experience. And let's talk about those flies, the one that just landed in your soup it could've been anywhere from another piece of food to. Well, just think about it. 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But I held off purposely, because well, Virginia Beach is on with us on Saturday nights, not Friday nights, so wanted to make sure we had this conversation while the station W an IS great talk radio station. There in Virginia Beach Virginia is, is on board with us. So obviously, there was a shooting with. In the last, what twenty four or forty eight hours, something like that sometime yesterday. I think it was at the end of the workday yesterday, basically, I don't have the time. Well, I think that according to this story here at pilot online dot com. It was yeah it was the end of the day. Okay on Friday. So folks were close to four o'clock, I guess, folks were getting ready to leave leave the office. Now these aren't your typical offices. This was a city building that got shot up this place. That, that give out permits and water usage plans. All that stuff where bureaucrats are milling about doing all matter of unimportant things that, that you are forced to pay for. And it turns out the guy shot him up, actually was one of their own civil engineer year. I don't even want to call it a veteran fifteen. Okay, according to pilot online dot com eighteen year. Maybe it's more may maybe they meant to say more than fifteen good. Okay. Anyway, I don't use it. You wanted to share a story about this? So please, go read a story from CNN. I don't know that how you know, everybody's looking for answers right now. So Friday's massacre is the deadliest in the United States this year adds to its the city to a grim list of places impacted by deadly mass shootings. City miniature Dave Hansen, said that eleven city employees were killed wasn't the guy in remember the California shooting a few years ago, and I forget the name of the city, but there was a gentleman a lady, I think who went in and shot up some bureaucrat offices. Weren't wasn't one of them an employee there, too, as I recall. But I couldn't tell Brennan Dino. That's where it was. I feel like that person was also a, a city worker. So it's interesting when you see the government bureaucrats going after their own. Because normally you would expect the city government was gonna push somebody over the edge with all of its stupid permits and all of its threats and violence that they use against us. That's certainly happened. And it could be the case here. We don't know at this point. He's a worker. It's speculation that this point to to determine we don't know his motivation. We don't I'm just saying it's you know, he's a worker for the government. Right. So it's one of their own not somebody that they've been pushing around just like your typical victim of the government. Well, I don't know. Maybe maybe he's trying to get something done at a particular location as house can't get it done. Feels like he's been treated badly. I don't know the answer. You're speculating, yeah. Well, maybe it's maybe it's just that he's got some kind of labor dispute some, I don't know. Maybe somebody out there knows this guy because we are does did they get his about that to a guy who's, you know, says, he's quiet, but that he was doing the same thing. He normally do does on Friday morning brushing his teeth in the. The employee bathroom and guy comes up next to him washes, his hands says, hey, how you doing? He said he was at work that day. He's doing okay. And he says, what are you gonna do this weekend? He says you got any plans for this week. And he says. No. And that's the end of the conversation killer. Asking do you have plans or being asked the question? This is somebody who was alive to give a report to news, media and police about the killer's behavior. No, no. But the bathroom situation was that the killer, who was asking brushing his teeth. Okay. The killer said, no, he had no plans. Okay. Sorry wasn't clear what because he just going to shoot people. Yeah. And die. So it was says that he had a, a rifle there was a rifle found on site. There are two forty fives that he had with extended magazines according to this, I don't know what extended magazine is entirely and. He had other weapons at the house. So I don't know how relevant that is, if you intend to go into killing spree, you'll leave weapons of the house, I don't know why that's particularly relevant. But it's true. According to this, the weapons were bought legally. So I don't know that he's concealed carry permit holder, which, of course, brings concealed carry permit holders numbers continues to they continue to come in as some of the safest people on the planet. No doubt. So I don't have much else to say about it other than it's, it's a tragedy. It's a shame. I would like to know more about what his motive was. They're not. They're not giving his name often. Although we do have it. You have it. Yeah. I've got a same says here. Arthur Felton, that's not his name. No, no names critic. Oh. I'm sorry. Yeah. You're right. I was reading the wrong part about the eighteen years, you probably heard about the fifteen years. Yeah. So, right. So I don't know what Radic critic and Dwayne critic. Okay. I don't know anything else about him, but Wayne. W. A Y, N, E Doreen, Dwayne critic with a c. Yeah. They've hunted around on him. But the guy was, you know, didn't have a lot to hunt around on they, they found his civil engineer license, and he used to work prior to like fifteen years. He worked for a local organization that was it. So there's not much to say about it other than it's sad. He added security pass. So he was able to go from office to office shooting people. Unlike your average person who might have gone to a city all government buildings have security at the front checking people with, you know, whatever. But that's not going to stop us a madman from coming in and shooting. The securities of you know, crew or just waiting on the parking lot of at four o'clock, they're all going to come out and get in there and try to get in their cars. You get a whole group of them there, so they can try to increase security at the government building. But that's not gonna alternately do anything against somebody determined to take some people out. The presumption. Is that somehow we are less safe than the government employees, or we would have greater reason or something like that. I don't know. I can't I can't speak to any of those. But in this case, it was a government employee and he had a pass and used it. Yeah. Now, another possibility is the ever present sort of antidepressants thing, you know, people that there, there's either people or killing people because they're depressed or they're killing people because they take these, these up to serotonin uptake inhibitor or whatever the hell are called. I mean, I'm I'm not an expert in this, but that those things have been associated with the past could be that might not know if if you, you know, maybe, you know, a little bit more, maybe you're living in Virginia Beach. And you are connected to the situation in some way. Perhaps you are this guy's neighbor. I mean we run the air there and WFAN says a big audience, if you wanna weigh in, you're certainly, welcome to do, so at eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five. Four five zero three seven three three. Let's go to Anne. She's in Arizona. Any you're on free talk live with Mark. And unless you're teasing the and calling me, any okay kiss. My great, great grandfather was there, since phone sort of didn't know. Go ahead. You're on the air. I have been researching of the mass shootings. I've worked many of the school shootings or thirty years. When you say you work them, you mean you've you've been on the scene, or you just have researched them extensively. I was a bird in. A case that was filed against the drug companies for causing Columbine. One of the big. Yeah, there were five families that we're ready to join with him, but after they were threatened by the drug company, they backed off. So anyway, so I've worked many that way, I've been testifying in these cases for years. And there's so much that happens in court to the general public is totally unaware of like, what kind of things have been Curtis. Well, like we've got a memo from the head scientist at eat y lilies with the first one of these out Prozac, and when their own scientists came to them and said, well, we've got a problem here because it looked like Prozac is actually caused me to. And he actually sent a memo back. Prizes me so there is a paper trail. Hold on. Any will finish the story about this Prozac guy talking about causing suicide and possibly other homicidal aspirations more coming up free talk live. Hi, I'm Derek J. I don't want a politician to represent. 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We're talking about the shooting that happened in Virginia Beach e yesterday afternoon as bureaucrats at the city building, one of the city buildings we're getting ready to leave work. One of their coworkers. Apparently, Wayne critic came in and, or maybe he was already there and just started shooting people, I guess, and now apparently thirteen are dead as a result of this. Well, that's he's one of them. Oh, is that right? Okay. Yeah. I'd heard something about that eleven city employees, obviously, it was only eleven okay gunman. And then a contractor, I see. It was just they are trying to get a permit, you know. Yep. That's what she give for trying to get apartment. I guess. Well, please. I mean you've got to get a permit if you want to build or else men with guns, we'll come and shoot you down, right? Well, probably not immediately. Well, they will threaten you. If they find out that you're working without their permission, slip. And then if you continue to work without permission slip, they will send men with guns to stop you from doing that at some point, and that edifice that you're building, I suppose, don't stop there gonna pull their guns out on you. Ultimately, there is no law without force without deadly force. You mean backing it according to the story Howard hit back to your calls as well? Toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. There's another CNN piece that interviewed some of his neighbors, and they say that he kept to himself, we can tell you a little bit more about. Apparently he had a military passed. So yet another Madge shooter trained by the government, if you want to reach people with the ideas of liberty, you can do it from the back of your car with liberty stickers dot com can reach thousands of people with a bumper sticker. And you know, people love to read them. So check out the best selection of witty, poignant pithy and downright bombastic. Liberty oriented messages available over. Liberty stickers dot com as we continue. You with an in Arizona. And you said you were actually a court witness an expert witness in the one of the Columbine cases where parents were attempting to sue the medical companies that had manufactured the what was it s are is that the, the shooters were were taking and you were you were beginning to tell us kind of, like some of the behind the scenes or story from that if you could quickly recap for our listeners just tuning in. Okay. Yes, we had a, my mom would that we were able to use an court where he lied, lillies main. Scientists went to the head scientists for ally. Lily and said, we've got a problem here because it appears the Prozac is actually causing suicide and the memo, he's sent back to them was, we cannot afford to lose Prozac just put about the side effects list. Yeah. Well, he said, you're gonna need to tell them that the suicide is coming from the underlying depression. This is that before testimony in court. Yes. Yes, it was. And there's been many wrongful death cases settle. Well, now we don't know if this person in this case was actually on these drugs. There's no evidence of that. But we have about a clues, the neighbor said that he was up most of the night. He would hear him up. You cannot sleep on antidepressants ruin, and then I'm not on antidepressants, but I'm regularly up till three AM. So I don't know. I mean that's a nine to five job with for the city. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Says he left at seven AM in the morning. So, yeah, that's not a whole lot of sleep. I'll tell you one thing, I've had a lack of sleep. And it made me go insane. So that could be a factor here to. He's not getting enough sleep. Anybody knows that if you cannot sleep, you will go psychot- it, absolutely. So, and it's because what happens is your Rhames deletes, your dream state of sleep, your body will force you into that, while you're awake to compensate for not being able to the brim while you're actually asleep. And that's one of the first things they saw with these drugs, is that it would repress rim fleets. So you can if you have the problem before thinks the military, giving something It's still would indicate that, that would be a reason why a doctor with his him when drug. 'cause they often, give them a sleeping pill, which is insane. But you just said that you can't sleep when you're on the end depressants. Why would a that prescribe for that reason? Marketing. I mean that's more marketing than research. Yeah. It's a pretty jaded view of what a doctor would be doing for his patient. But I guess not on impossible. That's not that the doctor would know if the doctor hasn't seen the research he's not going to know that you can believe the drug reps that come suit. Your says this is great for sleep. So anyway, there's another case that happened in Wyoming. This is the case, I worked for three years worked with Jerry spent for a while until Jerry decided to retiring. He's the one that was interviewed so much during the day, Simpson trial, the weather data Alpilles. What happened in Wyoming by what happened? There was an elderly man took two doses of an antidepressant over date. Date. After the second dose. He got up the following morning thought of wife daughter, who is visiting along with her baby. Jeez. And then himself in that case to doses read company expert, testified that what should be expected because of the way these drugs affects serotonin level is impulsive, murder suicide should be expected. Yes, while it's horrifying and scary stuff. Thank you for calling, and sharing your expertise, with us here tonight on this topic. I definitely appreciate hearing from you. The toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three just horrifying. Yeah. I, I cannot stunned by hearing all these things. It's, it's hard to imagine. But I, I don't know how everybody thinks she can somehow, you know, essentially plan society based on these sort of outlying situations that are probably done by crazy people, or people that are, you know, harmed by these drugs, or whatever. I don't know how you do that. What are we taking away, everybody's rights because somebody does some something crazy. I guess that's the idea. Let's talk to Shawn. He is in Chesapeake Virginia listening to w NIS. Hello, Sean, you're on free talk live. Hi. How you doing? Hey, you're on the air doing good. I just like to confirm, what that Lee just said about the Prozac, I had a friend who battled depression for about twenty years, but never took any medication or thought any professional help, and he went to see or you know, professional psychiatrists. And they put them on Prozac within two weeks. He lined his living room with plastic and Louis head off. Oh my God. Yeah. He battled it for twenty years without the dry. Never came close to that was on Prozac for two weeks, though. Yeah. It, you know, just my layman's guests on this is that the brain is so complicated. When we throw in these chemicals in some cases, they're bound to work. In other cases, they seem to cause catastrophic problems. John, thanks for calling to share that with us really. Appreciate hearing from you as well. The toll free number here is eight fifty four fifty free. We have time for you. If you want to join us comment on these antidepressants. We're these affecter in the shooting in Virginia. We don't know at this point or is he just mad at his coworkers. There's more coming up here. It's free talk. Lot on free talk live. We're bringing people to the ideas of liberty every day from wrestling superstars like klenge Jacobs. You guys really are having an impact. 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Magic mud dot com D Wayne Craddock is the per purported shooter that tact the city hall in Virginia Beach, or one of the city municipal buildings shooting, roughly a dozen people apparently and then ending up being killed himself by a shootout with police. There's a new story at CNN talking about, well, you know, who was this guy. Apparently he worked in the public utilities department with the city there for about fifteen years listed on department news releases as. Point of contact for information on local road projects over the past several years before working with the city, he was project manager for Virginia based engineering firm and had a bachelor's degree in civil engineering, and also spent some time in the national guard can April of nineteen ninety six was assigned to the first battalion one hundred eleven th field. Artillery, regiment, at cetera et cetera was parts. Let's see discharged in April of two thousand two so he was national guardsmen for six years, held the rank of specialist at the time. No corporal, no overseas deployments. According to his records his parents say they weren't aware of any trouble that he had been having with his employer. How their life is turned upside down right now. Basically has no criminal history except for a minor motor vehicle. Infraction in twenty thirteen. So neighbors say that he had three security setup and a pair of windows looking out onto the grassy com apartment complex, Clarisa. Morale each twenty to live next door to say that again about the security, I didn't really had what appeared to be, according to clarify his next door neighbor. Three security cameras set up in a pair of windows looking out onto the grassy apartment complex. She said she had arrived home Friday night when police launched flash bangs at his apartment heard an officer over a loudspeaker saying step out with your hands up. I guess they were looking for others. Maybe that seems like a strange thing to do. When you already killed the guy earlier in the day, possibly, the he went back to his apartment and they had the gun gun battle there. I thought I thought you had told me that it was at the bureau bureaucracy at the building. There's so many Marie. At this point lived in the apartment for only two years, but only remembered interacting with chronic wants a few months ago. Craddock was in front of his apartment with two other people smoking, what smelled like marijuana. See, that's what did it markets. The, the marijuana craze, well, seems unlikely nuts highly unlikely, he says, she says he kept called me. He said, oh, hey girl, how you doing stuff like that? I was intimidated by him. I know when I'm uneasy about people. Another neighbor told CNN Phileas that the gunman kept to himself and was always in and out of his apartment with book bag said you heard him walking around would drop stuff at, like two AM me, and my roommate would try to figure out what he was doing. The neighbors said who lived below, Mr. critic didn't engage in much talk outing in quote the year. I've been there we've had maybe three conversations and that's about it. I know what Jim he goes to, and that's about it. So says, quote, I never saw him take the trash out. Never saw him bring groceries in never saw people coming in or. Going out. He kept to himself, we go to your calls, and your thoughts. You can bring them what you want. Your Keith is in Virginia Beach listening on W Hallo, Keith. I'm, I'm actually about twenty miles away from where it happened, not in the in the city. But thanks for taking my call. You're closer than anyone else. Who's called so far tonight? So welcome, what's on your mind? Thank you, the same topic. And, and like, Tracy, who you just spoke to I've actually known her for fifteen years, and she's really solid and her what she's done? And that was an who called earlier. Okay. Gotcha. I didn't know what her lists like Tracy. Yeah. She's she's been on some other interviews fours, and some other, too. But, you know, guns even tonight Corey book, Cory Booker, for example, you know, the guns get blamed the NRA gets playing the second amendment gets blamed veterans. Get blamed Republicans get blamed even President Trump gets blame for what government proved prescription mind. Altering drugs are causing in so many cases. So you believe this guy was on antidepressants? I don't know. But because so many of them are, for example, the school shootings that amd Blake Tracy is research. You said all of them have were. On them. She's featured in the, the, the only exceptions to that, that she can conclusively say, is that two of them. She wasn't able to get information from the police investigators or autopsies, or whatever as far as what, you know, medications they were on, if they were on anything and in since she didn't have that information. She can't, you know, say in those to all the other school shootings. They were and the other thing is that what's in in. You can read about a lot of these cases. S SRI stories dot net. S. S R, I story, stop Ned, where she's just chronicle thousands of them. You know, over the last thirty years, in, in actually Karrar website, drug, awareness dot org. Now on her board was Candace, pert PHD, who had told time magazine. I'm alarmed at the monster. I created referring to Prozac she was a co creator of Prozac can't per she passed away recently. But, but yeah, that's another addition witness of what amd Blake Tracy saying is correct. And wrote a book, many years ago and recently updated called Prozac panacea or Pandora. But it's really important that everybody know that the, you know, the, there's a greater risk violence from these medications when people do any kind of withdrawal, or changes they can off to be more dangerous. Than just staying on the medication though, you know, be very, very careful. She actually is also an expert and helping people get off of the medications safely, even better than what, you know, mainstream doctors anybody else is is able to do because they don't really understand. She said, how these drugs work, they just go by what? You know, big farmer sales, people, tell them that's pretty scary. So, yeah. It's, it's really important that, if starving stopping changed doses combined with other drugs alcoholic center that people really be careful about that. And you can consult her website, Juerg, awareness dot org. For information on that, too key. Thank you for calling a share that with us tonight. I definitely predate hearing from you. The toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. Let's go to Barry marriages jumped off the line. Toll free number eight five five four five zero three seven three three. Yeah. I mean it's I it for one. It may some may say it's you're responsible for us to just suggest reasons for this sort of thing happening. But I would hope that they would say it's equally irresponsible for the democratic candidates for president to be coming out with solutions to the gun problem on right on the back of this, at the same time, that's to be expected. Yeah, well, it's certainly what happens every single time. I like. I got an Email here from Marianne Williamson, who's running for president, and she's got a list of things that she's going to do it. Looks like about. She going to put a stop to this. She's got a seven point plan. All right. Let's hear about it. Coming up here in moments your calls and thoughts. Also, welcome our number for you. 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You can learn about those at amp AMP amp dot freetalklive dot com. Mark, I know you want to get into the seven point plan by a democratic candidate Marianne Williamson what she plans to do. About guns. But first, we go to your phone calls and thoughts here. Let's start with Dennis. He's in Myrtle Beach listening to W, R N. N Hello Dennis. Yes, sir. I appreciate what you guys, do, I listen to you every Saturday. Thank you. I just wanted to make a comment about that Phil. That called about the Cory Booker jumping on the bandwagon against the NRA and. Those people the police officers that, that went in and took care of that shooter. I mean they were great. But, but I know that was a no shootings zone whenever the government or state offices are no firearm zone. And if there have been a couple of people in there with our second amendment rights it had guns. They might have been able to save even more life, then that was only comment I wanted to make. But I really appreciate, I'm glad you brought that up because it was one of the few that we had not yet made on this, this situation. It's like a typical thing that should be said. So I'm glad that you did point that out is a lot of these shootings. You know, a lot of times they go on in schools where it's also a gun free zone. And this is also likely a gun free zone. I don't know how much security, they have at the, you know, like the ground floor level of the, you know, the building, not all government buildings have security. It depends on what town, you know, you're in what state like here in Keene, New Hampshire. There's no security whatsoever in, in these government buildings except for courthouses and jails. But beyond that, you can just waltz right in anywhere. And I think that's, that's a good thing. I don't want to have to pass through a metal detector before I you know, have to go into some government building, pay whatever tax. Yeah. So Dennis, thanks for calling in sharing that tonight. I would definitely predate here. In fact. Thank you Dennis toll free number here. Eight fifty five four fifty free. I mean Dennis is absolutely right. If people are free to carry guns, I'm sure Marianne Williamson whoever she is would disagree with this, but people are free to carry guns wherever they go. Then you've got a more safe society because there are likely people in the nearby vicinity who could respond much faster than a police officer could respond to that situation. The police have to get a call. The dispatch has to call out to the cars and one maybe nearby. And but, you know, by the time all that's happened, by the time that person that caught puts his car in gear and heads the direction of the, the shooting, there's already some several dead bodies on the ground. Right. And some people have analyzed this, and what they see is, is that when there is a concealed carry permit holder or a off duty police officers, something that's in the nearby vicinity, when something like this happens that not that the. That the situation doesn't occur. But that far fewer people are harmed and you'll find over and over and over again that these situations occur in gun free zones. Right. So I mean, are are lustrous politicians have done their, their duty in the writing down on a piece of paper that guns are simply not allowed here in this spot? Here you may not bring a gun. And of course, you may not shoot people not that they're having been laws against murder in this for two hundred and forty year. None of them have ever stopped a lunatic. Right. So laws bullets fly through paper, they just don't do anything. Let's talk to Richard. He's in New Mexico. Listening in Farmington to K. E N N. Go ahead. Richard. No, that the reasons all this is happening is as deficiency in lithium. It's a deficiency in lithium okay? Where do you get lithium? Prescription ground. Okay. All the supposed to eat. But if you have a shortage of lithium, you're gonna have violence, ten you're going to have all these. See, I've heard that people that are lithium are super crazy. Is that not is that, that in the case? I've heard that people that are taking lithium, you know, as part of like a prescription are like super nutso. Well, I don't know about that. All I know is the story to lithium the causes the holy. It's an interesting theory on this guy. He was on with you bet you bet. Thanks for the call tonight toll free numbers. Eight fifty five four fifty free. I mean, isn't lithium one of the things they prescribed to people who are like, super crazy. There's a minute makes them like even more crazy different between a drug and a dietary supple. I, I don't know. I've looked it up here, you know, it says that there is apparently problems with having too much lithium. And you know, I don't know. I mean I don't know everything about lithium by any stretch of the imagination. But I think there's an honest song about it. Let's continue here lithium in your blood, so that medicine can work. I dunno lithium is a treatment for bipolar disorder. Apparently, let's talk to David, he's in Myrtle Beach, David, you're on free talk live listening to WRR. Yes, sir. Dennis stole some of my thunder thunder about public buildings schools churches, any place, where people are gathering. I think that people that are in those organizations should be trained. Very thoroughly in the handling of firearms and be proficient at it, and also trained or talk to, and make sure are mental attitude is correct in their background checks, and all that stuff. And they should be armed people in schools, churches and public buildings that was one thing. Like I said, Dennis stole my thunder there, but the other thing is this when I was a child seventy one Vietnam veteran, I got a licensed to carry a New York state in nineteen sixty nine and Pataki and Schumer eventually I had a life. I'm Gary permit concealed carry permit and because the Schumer tacky they. Changed the rules and I can no longer carry legally in New York state. I reside in South Carolina now. And when I came here, I got a carry permit, I also have what they call a Utah carry permit, which allows you if you're licensed in the state you live in, you can get a non resonant Utah carry permit. You can carry a lot of different states that reciprocate South Carolina, most of your listeners out there. But I, I believe when I was child, I was taught no, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. No, sir. Yes, sir. I was taught to respect the forty I was taught to respect every single individual that walked the face of the earth, every person that walks to face the earth. I consider my brother and my sister. No, vape. Prove otherwise and then I just plant them. So I think that if, if the I know, a lot of teachers, and they say, there's no respect students have no respect for their authority. That's the biggest problem. I think it's the side today today and the prince of darkness rules, the world. And, and maybe we're coming towards the end time I don't know about that. I'm not religious, but I do know pensions darkness rules this world. Super religious, but you believe in the prince of darkness is that like Satan, when, is that, well, I believe if you believe in God, then you gotta believe Satan. That's just a Christian God, that's like the, you know, the, the, the daddy, God, or whatever I believe in a supreme, you know, universal force, but it doesn't necessarily mean there's like some evil devil creature. That's got a try pronged fork that he's, you know, cackling in some hell scape. Yeah. I mean God is just a belief in a creator. 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Eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. And we don't have the discord on air in line rooms, lie to call in sound almost like you're sitting here in the studio with us. It's Ian, and Mark in the last hour, we talked a lot about the Virginia Beach shooting the latest in a series of ongoing killings in the United States over time. We don't know all the details on this one, but some suggested maybe the SS are is the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors of leaves out right, that they may be playing a role because one researcher who called in the show in the last hour says she's looked at a lot of these school shooting cases and his found that, that's a pretty common link between the shooter's in those cases. Now, we don't know about the do Dwayne critic who is the lead shooter there in Virginia Beach having killed at. Least a dozen people at a government building. And apparently he was one of the government employees himself working for some engineering department of the bureaucracy that he murdered his co workers, but we're not really clear. What the reason was if there was one was he on these drugs, or was he just upset at working for a, you know, lifeless bureaucracy. I, I don't know. And if you know or if you haven't he's, you know, suggestions, or you want to weigh in here on this discussion. You're welcome to join us. Plus Mark, you got an Email from a presidential candidate. We'll get into here. She's got a seven point plan as to what she's wanting to do about guns, and we will get into that. Of course, you know, generally viewpoint here on free talk live is that more guns in the hands of good people who understand how to use them who've practiced for instance with, with them who've trained that more guns in people. Hands and in carried in purses, in the Smalls of backs and such kit concealed carry open. Gary, even will lead to likely viewer of these things happening, or if they do happen, fewer people being killed by the madman or mad mad teenager or madwoman or whoever it is usually doesn't seem to be women, though, that go on these less often doing sprees. So if you want to join us the toll free numbers, eight, fifty five four fifty free, and then somebody called in to say that he thought it was lithium that people need more lithium. And that, that's wise. It lithium deficiency says is what's causing this now, I don't know if you know that's true, but I didn't know whole lot about lithium. I remember hearing like people who are crazy. You know get put on lithium and don't necessarily get better. But a apparently the internet loves this stuff. I mean I was just looking for stories about lithium or kind of trying to find out about it, and apparently, it's a very effective treatment for bipolar. Disorder. One lady was saying that it does, tamp her down, meaning that she's not really able to experience joy either. So she's not having the, the bad side of bipolar. But she's not having a good sides. Lithium is either medication as opposed to lithium as a dietary need has see what you're saying. Yeah, you're taking it as a medication apparently, is very effective with bipolar with some side effects like you might need a kidney transplant at some point later on your life. But interesting if you wanna comment if you've got. Appearance. We'd love to hear from you toll free number eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. We'll get into that Email from the presidential candidates, Marianne Williamson in just a moment here. But I have several came statements from several different democratic candidates. Okay. But she had a seven point. We love multipoint things that we can pick apart. So let's go to Devon. I though he's in Grand Rapids listening to WT. K G. Go ahead. Devon. I was just kind of curious I wasn't a couple months ago. There also was another shooting and didn't they didn't they sue some gun company over that, that shooting boy, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, they, they somebody may have filed suit, but I haven't heard anything about a gun company having any kind of settlement against it. Okay. Then this, the thing is what all these people driving that live in Grand Rapids on twenty texting all the time. Now what if they would kill somebody would they sue the people who, who, who are their component of texting machine? What do you call these things? Floodway. I did find the story here. It was NPR reporting in March of this year, that sandy hook victims have filed a lawsuit against Remington in that case. With people to die that way, it's wrong. But the gun didn't make the choice to person made the choice are we are they gonna start SUNY? Cellphone companies. People while they're texting. You're right. I mean, people need to be responsible and held responsible for their actions. All I can tell you that they're going to sue the drug companies over oxycodone because some people abused at some point. So, you know, it seems to be just how much the public likes, or dislikes, the particular item, not how deadly it is because you're absolutely right. Cellphones distracted driving. But largely that means cell phone usage. Distracted driving is, as bad or worse than drunk driving. How many people were killed because of cell phones compared to goes last year. I bet you a lot of questions I would ask you if you're not counting suicide gun suicides, then say is probably commensurate. Yeah. It's a good question. Devin anything else you wanna share the call. Appreciate hearing from the toll free number eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. Let's continue here. We've got Ray in Texarkana listening to KTF s celery. How you doing today? Hey, good. You're on the air. Go ahead. Well, I would just like I'm a firearms enthusiast, and I would like to point out that good that firearms have done for, for human for the human condition, you know, please I mean before the firearm, basically, we were at the mercy of their list, Kratz, you know, whereas we were out trying to plow the field and, you know, they got the practice all day with their weapons. Hello. Hi, you're right here. And you know they got the practice, cutting surf sauce head off with their swords and stuff and, and, and the firearms is just leveled the field. You know, no doubt. Well, how about all the times that guns have been used to defend against an attacker, like, you know, lane million every year, according to the center for disease control. At least I've heard is more than two million because they don't they don't go and get reported. Right. You know, you pull a gun on somebody in a parking lot or flash one, you know, if you're a lady walking back out to your car, or something like that, and some thug tries to a cost you or whatever. And then you flash gun, you don't have to fire it. You don't have to kill the guy but it might be enough to scare them away. I mean these sorts of things happen all the time. I know of it happening. You know, people, you know, You too, to know someone who is weaker. We'll say that we are person has something that, that. And then this person is at us. And they're, they're no they're grown. We'll say see that. And, you know, well, you know, probably I shouldn't I should probably, you know, get my car and drive. Well, why are they gonna find another March? They're gonna find another victim. The saying is God made man Sam, Colt made them, equal. Call ray. Thanks for making tonight. Appreciate the toll free numbers. Eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. And this is a world where a little ninety five pound lady can carry unequal Leuser, not a world like that. It's in the United States in some parts of the US that little lady can do that. A lot of countries of the world. There's no guns allowed by anybody. But the government goons, you're right there victim. There's lots of lots of them have victim, disarmament loss, and even in some of the cities and states in the United States make it very, very difficult. And some of the government buildings Sedley. Let's continue here. James is in Texas. Also listening to KTF s there in Texarkana. Hello. James. You're on free talk live. Yes, sir. Thank you. Wanted to tell you that our local schools. I mean, it's a small town and all the schools from kindergarten through high school them. Same campus. There are signs outside every place that had driveway says our teachers are arm. They are trained. They will use deadly force. Protect our children. Is that common in Texas? Or is it just you know your area? I have no idea. The I really don't know but they're doing here, and I think I looked at signed the first time I saw it and said he. Oh, that's great news. I mean, I'd much rather see a school where I I'd rather see no government schools whatsoever. And have the, the marketplace provide education because a lot better. But if you're going to have a school, whether it's the government school or private school, or whatever, have it be an open campus where anybody can come and go, we don't need the, you know, these gigantic fences with barbed wire and cards and metal detectors to raise a kid in mean basically at a prison. I mean an analog that's what it is. That's exactly what it is James. Good call. Thanks for sharing. That's really interesting did not know that was going on out there. So kudos to school system, there in Texarkana, more on the way here, our number is eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. This is free talk. Live. 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Now, more of the freshest episode free talk live presented by Seiko cei-. Listen online at freetalklive dot com. It's free talk live to bring up what you want here, live Saturday edition of the show, the most of the calls in the discussion here tonight has focused on the most recent shooting one presidential candidates, Mark, you have an Email from her that says she's got a seven point plan. Hopefully we're to get into that, but phones are loaded up. So do you want to do one point? And then take the calls or just Brennan to calls. That's what we do. If you're if you wanna point room just asking require universal background checks of all gun purchasers weather purchases occur, online at a gun show at gun show events at a licensed dealer locations or friendly transfers, no, my so, you know, basically gonna make you don't sell on a gun to your friend, illegal as though, that's the way this guy got his guns. We have no idea. I mean, yeah, well, the claim was he did buy them legally. That's all it's all it's all the we know. The toll free number here. If you want to join us as a fifty five four fifty free, we'll get back into your calls and thoughts. All sounds of hammers that are used in homicides in this country singer year or all purchased legally. Yeah. I shudder to think about what it would be like, if people on an individual basis had to do a background check just to sell somebody a gun, because, you know, why would I want to do that? It's my friend or whatever I'm selling it to somebody, I know why should I have to, you know, do a background check on that. And that's gonna lead to sting operations, that's going to lead to people getting thrown in prison cell, or selling a gun, even though no crime was actually committed the, the new crime would be the selling of the gun without doing the background check. And I just feel like people who are in the business of selling guns should trust their gut, you know, if somebody's acting crazy, or you questioned them, you know, whether or not they're saying or whatever you're not sure about selling it to them, then don't then don't sell it to them. That doesn't mean that an insane person won't be able to acquire a firearm. Then they're requiring them now. Right. And look at the guns aren't going away. So if you, you know, at this point estimates have been as high as two guns for every person in the country, six hundred million guns explained to me, this isn't an island in the middle of the Atlantic explained to me, how you're going to get rid of them. Let's continue. We'll we can do more of her seven point plan here in moments. Also want to make sure. That, you know about the upcoming freedom fast, the largest liberty oriented gathering in the world, this year steam, the wild west liberty and opportunity or lawlessness, and violence. 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So go to freedom fest dot com slash F. T L. It's July seventeenth through the twentieth by the way, and it will be at the Paris. Yes. F. T L, fifty is the coupon code as we continue. We will take your calls and thoughts here. Let's go to Ron in Norfolk listening to W, N, IS Ron, you're on free talk live. Welcome. I live in Norfolk which borders, Virginia Beach. Right. Borderlines only four miles to why live and another seven eight miles to where this happened. I had a friend who I work with at night and he works for the city of Regina beach during the day. Full-time. And I finally got in touch with him last night. And he told me that the guy who did this. He either found out. He was getting terminated or he was terminated. At four he didn't tell me what four, but he said, if it was something it, he worked there, three years, I probably wouldn't have terminated said that he'd worked here for fifteen years. Yes. So, you know that got that we're going to get rid of him, and there goes his retirement or goes goes there goes to plan for the rest of his life, so he snapped interesting. Yeah. They are is understand that he was washing his hands in the morning there. So he was in the employee area and his cards, still worked. So I if you terminate somebody you turn off their security guarantees. He was getting terminated. They could it could be. Here. He would've he said, if he would have walked out that building has four inches, and he would have walked out this one entrance he only had walked thirty feet. He's walked into the building. We're all the big wake city officials are. Yeah. It makes you wonder why taking out low level permit. Bureaucrats permit issuing bureaucrats. On the news, how he went Florida, Florida floor shooting. It's only two story building. Well, maybe floor to floor. Florida four. News to exaggerate. True. That's fair that finally ended up coming out. Thanks for the info the scoop, there, Ron appreciate hearing from tonight. Yes. Before this happened that in the previous twenty years, there's been like twenty six mass shooting. Twenty three of those. The shooter had no father. Five. Don't bother at home and other interesting observations. So no, dad. Couple of days ago before this happened. Anti-depressants also very, very common. These shooter two-parent households are at the plant at home. Yep. Well, I by that much I couldn't say, but I can say the two parent households are an indicator of a of a lot of good things in life. And for whatever reason your, it's your lesson less able to say that anymore, people just don't want to hear it. I mean with my job, I, I deliver to a lot of houses I deliver food part time at night, and I'll, I'll go to places where Mellon's open a door and the kids, look at you like, oh, pizza and on the floor with them as a package of raw hotdogs in rich, crackers and Mamba shot. I'll bet your Jenner. You got your run. Thanks for the call tonight or appreciate hearing from you. Interesting observations, interesting suggestion, obviously, it's hearsay. But, you know take it for what it's worth another thing is, is they've been. They've tried to draw chlorophyll correlations between having meals at home at us. Sort of set time, you know, the family having dinner with a better life. Does that happen these days? Well, it doesn't it doesn't happen. I work evenings. So it doesn't happen too much of my, but we do what's your lunch? Because your son, doesn't go to a government school. He's home. So that helps he's home school. We continue here. Kimmy is on the line listening in Virginia Beach to W. N. I. S. Hello, kimmy. Hi. Harry all had good. Go ahead with your thoughts. It's everyone wants to have someone someone or something to blame y'all wanna make sense of a tragedy. You always look for straws like this. It's the gun the cards, the sport. It's something something else besides the person heart did this and mental health is overlooked for so long and personal responsibility has been overlooked for so long that I think we all wanna blame some something is opposed to the person that did it not. It was his choice due to do this. And it's anyone's it, anyone commits a crime. They have to make a conscious choice to do. So obviously sky made the choice. I don't think anybody on this show tonight has taken that away from generally sure I'm just pointing out by another. We've taken life. Life not exonerating whatsoever, or telling him saying that he's not it's not his fault. But the point is, it's always looking for a reason that we, it's fighting look for again. Is it a single family? How full is it not having dinner is that the gun is, what, what is it that made this person do it as opposed to anybody can stamp, and go crazy? But if you're on certain drugs that seem to lead to that happening than maybe that something. 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Those types of, of sales of bitcoin, a lot of people use local bitcoins dot com for that it's right there in the name, that's kind of like its namesake, basically that, that sort of activity apparently within the last day or two, maybe there doesn't seem to be any kind of press release about this, but local bitcoins dot com has. Taken away the option to do local bitcoin, sewing. So you can still sell online for other things like, you know, Bank account deposits, or gift cards, or whatever. But if you try to go and create a new, I tested, if I couldn't believe it when I heard this, I tested it for myself today my my account where I had advertisements up for the low for the bitcoin vending machines because I had those listed as, as a local option of buying points here in New Hampshire. They were gone from my profile. They just weren't even there. Try to create a new sell sell your bitcoins locally, not even an option anymore. They've literally removed a local from local bitcoin dot com right before days before local bitcoin dot com is preparing to launch where you will be allowed to sell bitcoin cash, or by bitcoin cash locally and again through the other methods as well as just thought. Wow. What perfect timing for local dot bitcoin dot com to have this original site that they're competing with. Drop the main reason they existed literally hours before the local bitcoin dot com. Goes online. Stunning news. I couldn't believe it. So, so kudos to bitcoin dot com for launching this thing. And people are really excited about it. There's gonna be some crip encryption of conversations meaning that your conversations with the sellers and buyers are not viewable by the website. So that means that law enforcement agencies, for instance will also not have any idea what is going on. Of course you're dealing with a lot for agency on the other side. And there's going to be any KYC they call it. No your customer requirements. So the site itself would not require identification from buyers or sellers, which is interesting now sellers, individually may require identification. So I've sold on local bitcoins for while and I require I d because I've gotten scammed in, you know enough times. So it's a smart thing to do the site itself will not require that. So that's very interesting to do some things very differently with local dot bitcoin dot com. Basically their hands are off of it. They're not holding any funds. This site, they're competing with. Holtz fund. You have to deposit funds into a wall at their if that site goes off line, you'll have access to, to your bitcoin. Right. Not yours. Somebody else holds it. It's not your rights. This is a big deal. Local dot bitcoin dot com. You can sign up for the accounts right now. And then it'll turn on completely on June fourth. Let's continue with your calls and thoughts. Here we go to Arnie on the line in Scottsdale. Arnie are on free talk live. All right. So my daughter was born with a rare condition where colon is actually partially connected to her cervix now taking her to at least three different surgeons all of which says, there's nothing we can do. And every day, I can, you know, I walk by the bathroom, and I hear her in. Doc. The dump button on you. There buddy, he waited an hour to do that. That was the longest call. How that guy on hold for, for more than an hour. He I think he had me like, oh, there until the very moment that he dropped the s bomb that he had before. Oh, really? I don't I didn't know anything about his college knew that it wasn't on the topic that know that we were talking about. So that's why you had to wait because I wanted to all the people that had comments on the shooting to to go first. But as soon as he started saying walking by the bathroom, acting as though, because my first question was going to be, well, how old is she? Because, you know, if that was a problem at birth, then it would be a problem, right then and it would be an infant wouldn't be something you'd leave in the bathroom. So it automatically as soon as he started talking about that. Like okay, this doesn't sound doesn't sound legit. Anyway, can't say that word on the radio buddy. Let's continue here Alexis is in Myrtle Beach listening to W, R N n Hello, Alexis. Hello. Hi you're on the air. Tonight. What's on your mind? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're talking about the with him having to do shootings and everything, one of my in-laws, my mother-in-law. She was actually on lithium, as she didn't shoot anybody. But she actually held my ex husband and his girlfriend, and her own coll- hostage and just knowing that you can understand why people would think that people with polar disorder would be dangerous more dangerous, if they were on him and one knowing this, that the government still allow them to take with them, if they know it causes people to be eradicated and unpredictable. To the community. I mean I I'm not not doubting. What you're saying here, your story, but from what I read in a brief search online. It seems like a lot of people really think this stuff helps with bipolar that it helps lessen the crazy of, of bipolar. Obviously, it's different for everybody. I would agree with that. But if it doesn't, there's also the side that it doesn't and things like that happen, where people are put in danger. I don't know whether it's the mental health problem, the, the baseline mental health problem or the, the drug in the case of lithium. But then, again, these, these are the same problems with the assessor is that we were talking about previously is that you're talking about people with mental health problems to begin with and it, it's very difficult to know. So I you know, sorry about what happened your family. No. Is it happened things happen? Wanted to me. Good. I also wanted to say, why do people think that it's a good idea to have no gun area. It open it's like shooting range for people. Basically crazies know that we don't have guns in certain areas. So they set up and wait for an opportunity to shoot people. It seems so obvious to us. But I just don't I mean, I don't know if we've had somebody call in to explain why they think a gun free zone would work against a crazy person why they think a gun free zone would work against a person determined to kill innocent people. It would seem like it's exactly what you're saying Alexis and thank you for the call tonight that it just allows people to shoot fish in a barrel. You know, you know, I I I've lived in the same world as everybody else's lived in and I can see why people are like, well, you can't have teachers having handguns at elementary schools. That's absolutely crazy. But. Okay. I, I think what they what goes through people's minds is well, you know, they would imagine the teacher leaving the gun on the desk, you know, the front of the room and some brat comes up Arabsat, right? I mean these guys it doesn't happen because most teachers don't have guns in hopefully most of them that do have guns would be carrying them on their person. It would be highly, you know, irresponsible to just leave it out on a desk, it could happen. But I don't think we've ever heard of any stories where that has. No. But we have heard stories of law enforcement officers, leaving their guns, bathroom Schering's airports and things like that. Yeah. That does happen. Silvern law enforcement officers with guns, and there are teacher with guns, eight, fifty five four fifty free at eight unless you're Texarkana apparently, they're teachers are armed, according to one of our callers earlier. This is very interesting. More on the way here at eight fifty five four fifty free. You can join us here on free talk live life Saturday show. To the protection of life, liberty and properties is what the Free State price about. But it's it's an effort to move twenty thousand people who understand it's about demonstrating to the entire country. Yeah, we can have a free market, a truly fee market, making it just a great place to live. 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I guess if you're not out of the talkers convention, unless you're too big to go to talkers, like some of these these talk been steadily moving up the ranks of most what, what, what number the, the number ranks of shows since we've been going. So I guess you could correlate the data that going is giving us a higher profile. I don't know it definitely gives us a higher profile. And so, thank you to our free talk live amplifiers, like Jake Leonard for making that possible at amp dot freetalklive dot com. Yes. We do take pay pal credit card and bitcoin BTC at AM PM dot freetalklive dot com to phones and to the phone. We got Laurie. She's in Virginia Beach listening to w and IS. Hello, laurie. Hi, you're on. Things going on there. I really feel like the first lady mentioned before the government shouldn't be allowing runs involved SRI's, and they go in the brain they rearrange chemical. I think it's a lithium's work with the sodium are much less damaging and VA is labor leading everyone is bipolar. Now. Yeah, the Veterans Administration. Yes. Very county diagnosis, even it's increasing among males, and I do believe that everyone should be armed. I think that they're they wanna really Nate those people heading arm that should have them say, higher bet. Well, they loans borderline and had PTSD. So they're the ones that give weapons. So, you know. By the way, the shooter was in the military. He was part of the national guard. I'm veteran myself, so and I also think that there's mental, healthy giving you just have a band mix. You have a person that, that's a home alone dealing with the situation and then you put dead drums on top of it. And I just think you have the recipe for a problem. Right. Well, I've been around somebody who's mannequin the manic states of bipolar and the last thing I would want them to have had was a gun. They were a mess. Yes. Yeah. The Marquis star you open up a Pandora's box when you start saying who should in who shouldn't be able to do. That's the real issue here is once you let the government determine who's not mentally capable of handling a gun list is going to start getting longer who it's going to be very, very soon before only the people who are currently working for us. So the ones that are allowed to have guns. Well, this guy was working for them. Yes. But he was. Anthony boarding are those suicide. We today may have been linked to us as our allies which there. Tonen you know, people you don't sit down there. I didn't know about him until actually, I went to Japan. This is like a very like I guess, successful chef who had his own a CNN television show, where he traveled around the world. And, and it was really good. Like he was really good host really interesting show. The reason I found out about it was because singularity in our discord, chat posted a link to where he went to Tokyo because I was actually in Tokyo. And I watched this while I was there ended up actually going by the crazy robot restaurant thing that, that he was at in the in the video that he did. And it was an interesting video and can well presented. But when I when I searched for my found out that he'd killed himself. And I think he hung himself actually was how how he did. But the weird thing was in that very episode in that very episode. He made a joke about suicide. And apparently he was kind of obsessed with suicide, according to one of his girlfriends. So, so I don't think that was a surprise. For for a lot of people. He was it was something he was kind of into sets suggests a long-term depression, or, or whatever it is was going on with him. Laurie. Good call. Thanks for sharing tonight. I appreciate it. Yep. Toll free number here is eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom Robert in Texarkana. What do you know people have strong feelings about, you know, guns and drugs? Free talk live. Go ahead, Robert. Yeah. I've just had a little comment here about, you know, when there's a bombing we all blame the bomber when there's a drunk driving accident. We blame the driver why when there's a shooting the Democrats blame the gun while sane people blame the shooter. I don't know of any Democrats have called in and night. So I don't know we can no answer that question. But it's a good question. I would say this about bombing the after the, the Oklahoma City bombing. They did make it harder to get certain types of fertilizers and then sort of thing. So and also TNT isn't as easy to get as say when I was a kid and certainly not as easy to get is when my dad was a kid. And so they've, they have made it harder and harder to get bomb making materials. But now the internet can make it easier and easier to get bomb making instruction. Yeah, I haven't looked that up. Well, the thing is, you know, everybody blames the person that does it you know, the crying like the bomber the driver except for when it comes to the gun, and then there's a big part of the country, now, it's saying, oh, well, we need to regulate these guns instead of regulating to people, or whatever, it'll never course, change anything because it'll only make it so fewer law-abiding people have guns exactly the crazy lunatics and the gangsters will, of course, still get whatever it is. They're, they're looking to get or even as we seen in, you know, other countries like took like the UK for instance where they have banned guns. Well, then, of course, people are just stabbing people to death. So now they're trying to ban knives over there. And of course, that's not going to solve the problem. Either soon will be forks. Spoons Robert, thanks for the call. Appreciate hearing from you. Good points. We continue here and I still, you know, if if by the looks of it just about every democrat. Candidate wants to see the guns spanned further their that's their base. You know there are. Pandering to their base. In fact, you've got an Email from a Marianne Williamson who is apparently one of those democratic candidates, they seven point plan. We touched on point, number one. We'll get to the other six here. Hopefully, but first we go to Donald in Virginia Beach listening to W N. I S. Hello. Donald. How you guys do. You're on the air. All right. Thanks. I just wanted to call in and. Well, speak upon the shooting here. I'm actually live about two miles world, this happened and friend of mine, actually knew the shoot or. I guess trying to, I don't know try to everybody has their own speculations. And first of all, the guy was actually on the only thing this guy took was actually vitamin, and there's no. I, I have met this year to once I'm not going to mention his name, and, you know, I'm not going to go into that. You know, he wasn't a friend of mine, but I wouldn't I knew him and he's. It's one of those things here. People speculating on. He was, you know, the press and everything, but you never know what. It's like just there's an actually new medication involved in this at all. There was a caller earlier who said again, this is all hearsay. Right. We don't know what the the real truth is. But caller earlier said that he knew somebody who worked with him at the bureaucracy at the government building. And that the claim was was that he was going to get fired, and that maybe he had caught wind of his potential, firing and went off. Well, I can tell you, there's no tooth Annette at all. Really that. Yeah. Hayes is worth ethic was outstanding. I mean as just, you know normally hear that about bureaucratic. Several we'll never really know what drove onto that, but no. His job was not in jeopardy at all man. Real liked. I mean he didn't have a. Nobody seems to know what happened. He didn't have an enemy. He was a great person. I mean showed out the worst firmly yummy. And it just well time will tell and it is possible. I mean, you never know what kind of evidence he left at his house, or whatever. So, you know, we're just getting we don't know all the details on video creates some there. We'll never know now that he's gone. We'll really never know. But. Say is anybody out there is this face to play us for the family? A lot of people think you for the call. Appreciated. There's more coming up here. Hour, threes, next free talk. Free talk live. Most of my life, he went to printed them for please. Protect and my father was the chief, what was he like at home with you, when you were growing up is he violent with you? 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Episode 385 - Carlos Alazraqui

Probably Science

1:09:56 hr | 2 months ago

Episode 385 - Carlos Alazraqui

"Hello and welcome to probably science. My Name's Andy would I am mccutchen. It's a choice to be back. I'm GonNa just straight into the guest because someone wanted for awhile You might know him from Reno nine one one which is one of my all time favorite comedies. Now brought back in form qube and also as a voice on vk ev- everything everything. Rocco ruckers modern life Laszlo and climb ricochet spiral kind. Thank you very much. And as I said to you off air sitting in my office next to Guinea Pigs so if you hear the rattling of a plastic water bottle that is not me. That is probably. I'm going to guess because we never see cocoa drinking. She's a magic snuggles. So I felt like a Joe Rogan comic already right. I'd like to thank you. Actually you do still have like a giant water bottle above your office like Tom. Hanks in big. If I were a little kid would do that. That'd be right next to the trampoline ball bearing that keeps close a bowling ball sized pieces steal. You'd have to offer. I had I had a guinea pig named Clyde cute he was. He was my favorite out. Good now a voiceover. Act Out. Imagine that Clyde satellite dish low. I wish I had my water bottle. I kill if he's a little bit southern lawyer and a little bit the guy that's for the convenience store Leon nothing senator love. Oh speaking of voices I was GonNa wait till later the episode but I was just remembering this and thought you'd like to know that for the last twenty odd years whenever I have seen a lizard curly the desert and every day whenever I see a lizard. I can't help but say to it in your voice circa nine hundred Godzilla came out. He Leeza Leeza Lizard. I took care of it for you. Yes you so you hear that included. I say that to lizards what I see lizards. I say Healy's early on in your voice as the Taco Bell. Chihuahua on par. Every time I get mad and I'm not British. I just watched you know the you Ronnie's growing up and Fawlty Towers Python. Every time I get mad I just say bloody hell. It just rolls off the tongue so easily Playa del. Well you will. So you're one of those guys who you absorb voices and accents from every like I remember you. We were hanging out back. And you're talking about your yes was it. Your childhood friend. Who is parents? Were living in Glasgow and Joan Mattie and I don and and all those characters to growing up and a as I told you brushed up by watching Rob Nesbitt James. You Wait Fan Club rob but I think it's true of of how voiceover actors or or in general operated if you like something something you want to emulate it communist comics. I think that we all like that. We we emulate some aspect of them but for real voice over wise. Yeah it was just a such a great environment. My parents were from South America. So got lead those guys and and Cadillac Kevin go say new. Get get exercise from pizza. So you're surrounded by like it's like being the the the The scuba diver in the in the aquarium. You're like hey listen all these great fish you know you just you just so good so yeah I mean you soak it up. I could be surrounded by all of those accidents to imitate so. You don't have to worry about that. So there you go right imitation. I'm I'm just a lithograph of other people nothing. Nothing says Calling Boulevard East. I'm curious you also have a good year for music all right. I've been known to be a good shower singer but you know obviously I work with Cedric Yarbrough. From Reno we would do okay on the robot colleges and he would just light it up John. Di Maggio's another really great voice over actors. Great Karaoke and Billy West Comes Jesse. Raphael comes from the music background. Tom Kenny of course Tom Kenyon high-seas singing all those Kabila Blue Song. So a lot of those. Yeah Oh yeah. I've seen his band playing at A. They closed out the sketch festival and actually timeless Kerri. Kenney silver was a singer in a band I don't know about Tom Batons are gifted. You find a lot of people in these arts. That are David Wayne and and Erin Hayes. Who's in a movie with that? All plug later on My movie by singing. Their version of the pretender song was the song I wish handed. Yeah I think so. I think it's brass in pocket. So it's called you. Yes on Alexa. And actually this Saturday Seven Thirty Eastern Time Horror Hound Cincinnati. We're doing a virtual screening I'll get details and send it to you later. Cases airs before that. Yeah wreck link but Erin Hayes was part of that and Along with many other people rob Belushi and My friend Joe Micheli ME CO wrote it. I financed it. We made it. But I guess I was getting referring back to sweep. Erin Hayes saying her version of Christie. Hi David wayner playing the drums and playing guitar. And you yeah you you realized how talented everybody is when you come to. This watering hole called Los Angeles ed or New York or as the case may be London or any big city. Chicago that how multifaceted people are in in you know. That's you have to be that you know. Yeah it's insane right where someone just ridiculous guitar player. But that's not even top down gently. Weeps I think at the rock and Roll Hall of fame or whatever and you had clapped up there and you had jeff back and you had all these guitar players and and then Prince who really. You didn't know as it's awesome guitar player lights it up. You're like oh. He was aiding that right wholly. Yeah so yeah to call us. We like to ask our guests this before we get deep into the science. What if anything is your background in science and and that's range from classes you took a school alike hated things you blew off in the words of your friends. We did the old Vinegar Baking Soda when I was a kid in chicken in a medicine bottle cap and watch it explode. We used to take tuna canned whole in the top Actually how take the top lid off dumped a tuna can dump the can itself upside now? Drill a hole in it put a firecracker and then set it in water and watch it launch so there was jet propulsion. We should shoot bottle rockets at coke bottles in the back of a liquor store we would lean them all up at forty five degree angles and then tie the fuses together and just watching coup for our version of all interest our version of a Baxter back at the liquor store. Twenty one gun salute. I definitely fire hazard back in the Seventies. A definite fire hazard We experimented with those lights like a UC in the movie Tangled where you take two sticks crossed them and glue the ends of a plastic bag onto them and the candles and watch the heat rise It terms of fit the the properties of physical science. I was a skydiver for fifteen years. And so we're talking about the science of in how your body relates to the relative wind that hits it and then you apply that to going skydiving tunnel. Which when I had kids. I quit skydiving and then you would go in the tunnel. And here's the here's the scientific sort of explanation. Why sit flying in in Skydiving easier because you have rig on your back which covers surface area where the the real relative wind is coming up at you. It catches your rig and allows you to sit down very comfortably when you're in a skydiving tunnel. You don't have that rig on so you have to provide that space Four which the air is going to occupy lifts you therefore you have to check your chin to your neck and archer back so that the air could come in and hit your back and make you rise along with your legs and so those properties of science and physics that I applied unknowingly and then started to think about and then the dynamics of the parachute itself. It's an airfoil where the back end is higher is actually higher than the front end allowing the win behind you to push your canopy forward and then when you go to land you you do. It's called the flair which you pull your back risers that pulls the back part of the parachute down like a scoop. Now you're backing becomes Lord than your front end and access a break in slows you down and that will probably acts a big wave a plane wingless coming into last just increases. Incr- yeah actually stalling speed because it increases the angle of attack and get. Well actually spears crude as it sounds. The Wind sock is a scientific instrument. Which lets you know as the parachutist which way the relative win. It's coming you always WanNa land into the wind so the what you would wanna do. The Wind sock looks like a carrot. You would always want to eat. The carrot means you want to eat The thin the the fat the fat end of YOU WANNA eat the skinny end of the sock. The CA- tetrahedral was exactly opposite. You wanted to eat the fat end of the He. So sometimes you'd be under canopy and you look at the wind sock and it's pointing one way and the ticket he was pulled it pointing the other. Like which one do I follow? And you're like screw it. I'm going for the sock scientific formulas you had to do in your head as you were landing at a at a drop zone decide on one shape and stick with the if it's opposite shaped wouldn't properly show you a across win on time and a tetrahedral was much more sensitive at Perez Valley so if there was an issue of A Dust Devil across win. You would want to rely more on the tetrahedral on which was a little bit more accurate and quick to respond to crosswinds so yeah This did you ever have any hairy situations down winds change downwind landings and I had a a down win. Landing that was forced upon me And I I cut it too short. I slammed into the ground at shut. My camera off people come came running out to see if I was alive. I was and I merely just really caused him severe slow swelling on my lower right leg but I I got lucky. I had one reserve jump at. I think has jumped three thirty six. The parachute got tangos. What would they call a a low speed malfunction where I had a full parachute but it was in a line twist that I couldn't reverse bicycle kick out of and it kept getting faster and faster and pinned Bhai head so I I did? What's called chopped? It and I pulled my reserve chute and I landed safely so This chopping take out a knife and seven days. It does not really pulling the cord and releasing the rings which hold your canopy and the rings. Release the cord releases which holder rings together. They slip out. Your canopy goes flying away. And then you're you're reserves is spring packed so as soon as you pull that. That's popping out within two seconds. Oh so so it it but it is still basically saying shoot. You're rid of the jets flew distance or main shoot. Because you don't want it to get tangled in reserves you. You said it was actually full twisted and sometimes you can land at parachute with line twists but this was spinning me around at too high of a frequency where. I could have landed with it but I probably would hit the ground that about twenty miles an hour spinning so make that decision. That what they call a low speed malfunction. It wasn't like a bag. Lock where nothing's coming out and I'm still falling one twenty miles per hour. Plus you know yeah right so you do have a little bit more time to deal with it and also the reserve shoot. Isn't going to have to reduce such quick speed. You already going rental calls that that. Yeah I mean that'll make it is the is a reserve. Shoot that the same size as the May. Yeah at that time. I was jumping at one thirty five and I believe the reserves. She was one thirty. Five one is. The reserve is packed on top. The upper part of the parachute an airbag in a car. You Know I. It's packed in. They're pretty time in. It's that's done by a licensed packer. California whatever state. You're in a licensed packer has to learn. Have flat pack a reserve. It doesn't have A. It's not rolled so you run a roll your main canopy when you're when you're You WanNa roll the nose of your canopy. And they have. What's called a slider? Your slider comes out I that takes a look the brunt of the relative win. That's GonNa hit when you're canopy opens and then you're canopies rolled so that it opens more gradually So that you don't go from one. Twenty two swat base jeopardize do not have a slider and base jumpers. Do Not roll their canopy. They need their canopies to open their reserve. Shoot like instantly but when you're regular skydiving you need to roll your canopy because you don't want that you're traveling at a higher speed right right base jump. Don't they start with the? Is it called the Guy Shoot? Whatever the the little mini are pulls out the main one hundred seventy five feet or maybe five hundred feet or less. They're going to jump already holding the pilots shootout. Yes if they're jumping off like they do in a bird suit in a wing suit off the fjords Norway and you and it's three thousand feet you're going to be able to cruise in that suit for about thirty thirty five seconds before you have to open so they would they would flat pack it without a slider but they still have way more time to I. I did a hot air balloon. Jump at five thousand feet and norm- normally you jump at thirteen thousand feet so at five thousand feet. I still had a twenty two second freefall before I had to open around two twenty two hundred. So how long a free phone each depending on how you're flying? If if had had down flying it's going to be a lot less. Maybe about forty five seconds if your belly flying probably about fifty five to a minute and if you have a wing suit on maybe anywhere from a maybe a minute and a half to two minutes depending how stiff and how the wing suit gives you a faster forward speed but a slower vertical speed so then you can travel farther but Obviously have more time in the air wing suit because you have more surface area. So this is what's what go ahead. Sorry go ahead. No no this is I'm communities are sort of rivalries between base Jumpers Airplane Jumpers and a wing Fjord but it was like a different group like say if he went to a gun. Range like which has sort of a nonprofit liberal guy in my friend. Manny likes to shoot traps trap shooting at the angels forest thing on on highway five and I go trap shooting with him and it's really challenging. He's very good. He's quite good. And you shoot with a shotgun so he loves to do that. And other people love the the machine the fifteens and the pistols and so. It's a different disciplined like they were free flyers and free flying means that you could sit flies. Stan. Fly Fly in your head. Do all kinds of goofy weird fly with a tennis ball. Upside down passed between each other. And then there were relative flyers that were teams that were ten days big ways that would do all their maneuvers and fly on their belly. So you had those two different disciplines and yeah there was sort of a friendly kind of rivalry but there was always respect for anybody that was going out of the plane. Generally the the relative players would get out I. They had bigger groups and They would they would need more separation from the rest of the plane load. And then you have your tandem flyers your first time fliers which get outlast because they open higher so you had your different groups on the plane you know. Yeah I did one tandem. Jump One time twenty years. Think did you like it. I loved it. I was also a little bit. There was a moment as we were descent. Once the shoot was opened one of the corners kind of turned. It didn't yet all the way and he wouldn't he wouldn't. I kept asking if it was like a real progress slight and he wouldn't answer me which made me think it's like maybe a big problem. I think he thought it was but he's like I'm not gonNA I don't know if we can curse on here but yeah he's GonNa fine but here's something that you probably did know scientifically speaking with tandem issue you when you leave the plane within the first ten to fifteen seconds of Fall Your Tanta Masters throwing out a drogue which is like a pie. It acts like a pilot. But it's almost like a drag racer. When that many parents comes at the drogue slows down your relative of fall rate to about one twenty because two people together obviously gonNA fall faster than the standard one twenty. And you don't want right because you're twice the mass rough dosing signs area. The the massive. That's three hundred square foot parachute. You don't want that to open too hard so you have to throw out the drogue. Slow down your speed Speaking of that is the thrill of skydiving is a lot of it. The feeling before you reach terminal blasphemy. Because that's a different sensation than the earlier part when you're in freefall. Where feels like your guts are crabby neutral without relative because there was no stomach sinking? Because you're so high up you're jumping into a painting but I will say that the the there would be the thrill of be hanging on the cameras. Step waiting for somebody to come out. They had a plane call the Sky van with a big tailgate. That opened up so you could run out the back and they had a little step out there. If you grabbed it while you were laying on your stomach in the Sky van you could grab it as you're leaning forward out the plane and then swing your body out in hanging off the back of the plane and wait for the wait for the other jumpers should come out. That would that part was thrilling. But I will say jump because you based on the data my friend Craig. O'brien Happy Birthday Craig. O'brien he was Tom's filmography or videography in that movie and Craig and Tony. Tony Garcia was a world champion Skysurfer and they got married they have a kid. Sierra I think is her name. She's older now but But you the speed of exiting plane is so overwhelming the noise and the speed and when I did my one and only balloon job it was one of my my second to last jump it was a decidedly different experience. Because I didn't have the advantage of the noise and the speed it was totally silent. The guy blew his last flame and said all right. Get out on my balloon and then stepping on this. How Weird of course because normally have the on you don't below the plank is nothing and you're like I'm really jumping from something so there was no disguise. I it was such a pure sort of event that I was taking place. It was a completely different feeling and it took me longer to get my terminal. Velocity which is why had twenty two seconds even though I was jumping at five thousand feet instead of thirteen thousand feet and it doesn't feel like you're going to have that long but you do think a mile it doesn't see I guess. Also yes we're thinking some physics point of view. Don't they'll be. They'LL BE HORIZONTAL. Ariza instance when you're jumping out of a plane but if you're jumping out of a balloon static they call that her John 'til air resistance period coming down the hill because you sort of go down and out and then go straight down. That is that horizontal resistance the weirdest one ever and normally in a normal skydiving world. Let's say we're dropping in an otter which holds twenty skydivers. You'll pass through the deasy In that case they went north and south. Soon as you see the first possible time to get out. They put on a green light. The first group goes you generally want to give them a nice eight second separation before the second group goes so that they have that horizontal and vertical separation Ben at Perez. They had an old jet with the old rear tailgate. That used to have steps. Will they took the steps out? Kept the rear tailgate. And that jets going about one hundred seventy miles an hour so they just opened the rear tailgate. They go. You don't need separation just jump right. What after another. Because you're going so fast that horizontal separation is immediate. And just you. You're going to get separation that so that was a different experience as well. You know again. All related to forward speed vertical speed. How fast you're going. How much separation you need edits? It seems primitive but these guys that are pilots and skydivers in DC odors. They know they know what's safe based upon experience and using science and using equations in. Yeah that's amazing. Do you still get some of the scratch. The same itch somewhat to go to the parks the indoor wind tunnel things challenge also been no I. I still have dreams of jumping out of a plane. Nothing will will surpass replicate that it really won't it just doesn't I did. How many jumps did you do? We'll put this in perspective. Because over fifteen years I did a certain amount of jumps. I jumped with skydivers. Had Fifteen to twenty thousand jobs because they did it every I I had seven hundred twenty three jumps still a hell of law but yeah. I guess if you're taking if you're one of those yeah if your instructor or one of the people doing the tandem jumps every day. You'll going out Brian. The aforementioned Craig Viagra. I'm sure Craig has well over twenty five thousand jobs because that's what he did for a living and then he did it professionally for movies in. He's worked on tons of films. And I think every mission impossible. Tom Cruise thing. That's always Craig O'Brien with him. Craig's probably my age or older. He is a tough son of a gun and he's had some hard landings and aches and pains for sure man. It's it's a rough sport at the lot of Torque on your body and so is the tunnel like if you do here. Here's the deal like we would do. Maybe ten skydives a day at my at my most but he in between the skydives you would have. You would come down. Shoot packed you'd manifest on a load and maybe have twenty minutes before your next job. If you're hustling when you do ten minutes and a tunnel my friend and I will book ten minutes In a tunnel together or actually we'll do ten minutes apiece. So we'll we'll book twenty minutes but it's two minutes in the tunnel. Two minutes out two minutes in and by the fourth by the third. Turn your exhausted because work on your body in a machine. That's producing a relative win for sit fly of one hundred. Sixty eight hundred seventy miles. An hour is so much your body gets really tired so what you do. Is You stand on the netting and raise your hands so it all the relative wind spills off and that way you can walk around you. Can it sort of but as soon as you put an arm out or give it some surface Syria? You'RE GONNA get twisted thrown into the glass or plexiglass so that makes me think twice. I wanted to try it but I know what trampoline parks too so I probably should try two minutes but it's it's a lot of Torque on your body for sure that's amazing can do it do all kinds of positions and make easy it. The you're it's. It's a lot of muscle memory. It's a lot of strength and it really tones you it's it's an incredible workout and it's all just relative air. So did that couple that you're friends with did they get into diving. I mean they didn't do one of those skydiving. Give birth. Hope at least one thing that I am into some skydiving weddings but no and memorials. Unfortunately but no. I don't believe they got married at a drop zone but I did see a drop zone wedding for sure. How did you get into this? How did this become such a huge nine? I did it. I did it. Three times due to decelerate freefall. I was done nine and I put it on my resume moving to La Skydiving and my buddy Callin Reno Was An agent at William Morris. And he saw my resume he goes skydiver hall. I'm GonNa go this weekend. You want to go and go you call my bluff and so I went and I did another ten I went. This is fun and I was young. I moved to La. At Rocco's butter live. Had all this money I was single and a hey skydive it's cool and then I just got hooked and I bought my rigs and got into the sport. I went to skydiving boogies. I slept at the drives. I had a cadillac. I slept in the back of my Cadillac. I you know Phantom I wanted to be a video offer and I just got into it I. It was very that feeling of Playground where you're just playing an air. They used to do these. Things called cross country dives where you would go four miles from the drop zone. Taft and they knew that the relative win if you went inland Eastwood blow you back to the drop zone especially the upper strong so you jump out at fifteen thousand feet and pull your shoot immediately hop and then you take a water bottle an empty water bottle and you throw it and it spinning and falling at about the same rate as you canopy. So you chase your water bottle and you can with the upper as you. Can you can guide your suit. Four miles all the way back to the drop zone while the sun is setting you know and that was just one or two nights skydives to where they lit the drop zone with couple of flashlights and What about who? So there was all kinds of incredible feelings and everything associated was. I was coming into my own. I was becoming an actor all those things and so it was very appealing. It was very appealing and I if I ever got a chance to do it and again for a paid GIG. I'd love to do at least one more time. You know if my daughter when she eighteen wants to go. I'll say I'm going with you. Oh that'd be great which you have to do a refresher must have to do something illegal just to hop pop so I would have get my cypress which is an automatic firing device that you have to reserve shooting case you cock out with another skydiver to unconscious to pull your main shoot or your reserve. The you're actually to say you. That's why skydivers wear helmets. It's obviously not when you land and crash. That doesn't help. It's if you're in a big way with other divers and somebody can track what's called tracking forward speed and Cockayne you out and you could become unconscious with that happens. You're Cypress measures air pressure and will fire a blade across reserve shoot opening and allow you deploy reserve. Shoot for you so you have to get that reject all that kind of I'd have to get everything recheck. I'd probably rent something be license to hop and pop at forty five hundred feet. No free these shift. Go and pull your shoot and then that gets you back into status. I had no idea this is so much I want to go to really take. It really takes the mystery you know. Oh my God skydiving and when you tell people. The statistics most people getting. I'm sorry mad. I interrupted most people that get it injured or canopy and a hot dog in and trying to swoop and do things they shouldn't be doing or jumping off cliffs and really risking it. And you know trying to do Proximity flying which is jumping off ers and trying to get close to. That's tough so most of the skydiving fatalities are due are already that somebody that's under a perfectly functioning parachute. It's very rare that you'll have a bag lock or your your tandem. Instructors to shoots. Don't work those kinds of things are rare so the sport itself is very very safe relative to driving. They're on the way you're more likely to get an accident and so when you discuss it in scientific terms. I think this is the point you show is when you discussing things. In scientific terms it really takes a lot of the mystery away. It explains to you whether something is dangerous like hydroxy clerk win or not like those. Which I I wanted to Brag and say that I'm taking flintstones Jubal's drinking drinking lots of ethylene glycol antifreeze because my doctor prescribe it for me for covid nineteen and nobody can prove that. I'm not doing it because my doctor said I'm taking it so I'm taking it. There is no there is not taking guy de. Is that what you guys had? The guy that's constantly cheated on his golf scores had refused to wear a porn star. The guy that won't show us both bone spurs that he doesn't have in dodge the draft. I it's a shock that that guy would lie right. I I will defend him on that Middle One. That porn star had way more chances. Absolutely you again. What's the upside of him? Lying about the hydroxy hawking. Well I think to abilities I. Maybe here's taking it but I think there's two abilities either he's just straight up lying like suggested or he believes passionately that he has taking hydroxy Clark when every day and they just happened to taste like stroke yeah does the child he could have had and really loved that I just call them L. heirs to frigging money but Here's the other side of it too. He could be taking a dosage. A hydroxy chloroquine is basically like a rhythm. Aisin it's an antibiotic which has were side effects. But he didn't say what the dosage was. It could be one milligram. A day. Didn't say you didn't yeah exactly. It could be a could be microdosing because like because I know. A friend of mine had to take it for malaria some years back and he was posting on facebook wall while ago about how much knocked him sideways miserable. It's really unpleasant rock with heavy side effects. Assuming you'll take note at a level of dosage that has vast and I so I would say if it's true. His dosage is so benign. Is that the word is that it's. It's nothing like taking flintstones stables. Yeah Yeah I mean I wonder at this point if everybody is just. It's so strange that everyone just accepts that the president is just someone who lies them. We can ignore them on all sides. Everyone is just sort of ignore when he says things like that. I don't know how you come back from that later. How you go back to a place. Where a president says things and you buy. I watched this movie. It's called team foxcatcher. I think was the movie with Steve. Chorale that route younger brother of the wrestler that John Dupont junior shot the actual documentary about John Dupont. Junior is called. I think it is called Team Fox Catcher. But it yeah. I think the movie. The fictional movie or fictionally the is is. I pleaded warned. Everybody before I go. He's John Dupont. Junior he's he's literally a sociopath it what happened to the GOP. Is I go. I didn't think this fucking guy could lie so much. Holy fucking Shit. We thought we would just have to defend one thing. But this guy he has. He does not have the capacity for empathy. He's a machine. He's a fucking saw. Cyborg he'll he'll do anything like the terminator to defend his being anything and the Republicans are like. We can't keep up with this guy but he gets things done. I just can't would it take to get him shouldn't have into politics but like the fact that he's actually saying things like somebody or two people at least died of overdoses of quit after he recommended it. How is that not enough for president to at least get their twitter account suspended for spreading dangerous misinformation? With what's more insidious than someone who is actually crazy is the people that know better and defend him. So yeah. That's how it happened. You Know Charlie. Pierce is a regular contributor for esquire in a guest on Stephanie Miller and he said at six when he got elected he goes. Do not be surprised at the level of complicity of the Republicans to rally around trump. I don't even think he thought it would get this bad. But in any case for back to the fact that he scientifically taking this drug supposedly called hydroxy chloroquine which is basically a US a malaria. Drug which actually Elon. Musk speaking of science. Electric cars was recommending early on to. I didn't know he turned out to be such a fascist though the forcing people to go back to work in Fremont we do actually have real related to illness. We got a question so two weeks ago. We were talking about with guest. Scott Freeman was saying he's he's a rocket launch at it seemed quicker than he was expecting and and one of our listeners. Routine with a question and I've got an answer and the answer is mostly your question was also to your question is no Kevin but Kevin Written Saying I I was thinking about your quick discussion about how also feel. It should be a very ponderous. Assent as we've all seen the shuttles but I think it has to do with the inclusion or absence of people in the Croft ponderous Rice to minimize G forces while still achieving escape velocity. Without people you can say fueled by going. Almost immediately to escape velocity regardless of how many forces created also correct It is not correct talk of fortunately I so I sent it to a friend of mine. Who Works in the rocketry world? He but knowing we get him on the show or coach him directly without him clearing with the PR people at his company which we can never manage to do but he is going to questions about Roy. If thank you know who you are and I sent him this question and he played. It's designed to carry as much propellants as possible. The more propellant. You can burn the foster you all when you're empty. Hens high orbit more payload etcetera. So you make the propellant tank so big that when full the engines combating the rocket off the Patt- any bigger and the rocket sits on the pattern. Which is pointless typical here. Just like you're setting to the grounds so typically thrust weight ratio is about one to one where one means it would be hovering. Then is you done propellant? The weight drops and thrust stays the same actually increases slowly so thrust to weight monotone. Ikley increases as the rocket ascends. So that will make sense faucet. Basically it's kind of like the reverse of what you were talking about your parachute where you'll down with las t and the air resistance to come match. You'll still in Iraq it. When it's on the grounds at the very beginning you have as much mass fuel as you can possibly do have just just slightly. Thrust is slightly above the point where it would be equal to not move but then as the fuel burns the thrusters roughly the same margin increases and the mass of the rocket decreases. Because the fuel is burning so it goes up. Wait yeah the way. Yes exactly so so. The downward weight is decreasing. Thrust is approximately the same so the rocket is accelerating upwards but then he says the above is true whether human or on cruise so. I don't know what you're listening to observe that foster in real life baps because it the classic videos of ultra slow motion around Lifton and then he says the respondent sorry. Kevin has misunderstood g limiting. It's true that rockets void squishing astronauts by limiting thrust to weight even though that reduces performance payload to orbit Cetera but those limits apply at the very end of the mission when the thrust to weight would normally be very high by this point. The rocket is way out of sight. Because this would make a great reality show which I would like to produce a make millions. We should do tiny astronauts higher doors to go into space. Ooh wonder a better useful. I mean everything payload wise cost. What's the average cost per kilogram to get something in order that just by having some just children? Why do we love it when he would love it? Can we've never had brad on the show? Thanks for the reminder. We we child save a fortune. Hey Man I'm I'm enjoying winning child space on on Netflix's love it. We have something very similar to that. I don't WanNa do a spoiler. But they have to launch a ship and they can't fit all the adults and the kids and the woman sort of the young girl comes up with that similar formulas. Saying that we have to wait mass which will not allow us to escape the atmosphere if we get everybody on the Board. So they decide. We're we're GONNA jam all the kids on and you guys got to go to the separate thing later on so they're using basically that's eight for. There's too much weight masks. We won't escape won't be able to launch from the. Yeah that's exactly it. And then he a for just finishes by saying by the way the G forces experienced a the thrust to weight ratio. That's that's all it is and then and then says the bit about an email about saving fuel by going almost immediately it's escape velocity is. That's that's not right so sorry Kevin but also thank you because you prompted to really interesting bit of thanks so that means that every pretty much every rocket since they would all start off with this one to one thrust weight ratio. Do the all kind of follow a similar like at X. Time passed liftoff are they all are most of them going the same speed at ten seconds in twenty seconds or does that vary based on like what kind of Euler I guess it would vary depending on how at what rate proportional to the overall master burning fuel. Which would probably depend on the engines? Used I guess if I rocket science. Oh wait a second. That's but yeah I email and I thank. You are anonymous friend for the Thura propelling Things forcibly out of transition and Eric article about an article researchers who get the giggles as Penguin poop produces laughing gas which is a great song by John. The Penguin pump break out laughing gas. If you don't know what. The song is John for tally. The some Scotland the fatalities great band from Glasgow and break out laughing. You must have been talking about Penguin poop. I didn't know so that is beyond methane. It's different than methane than right. Yeah no nitrous oxide Just one of many air pollutants that have had detrimental effect on our climate but for researchers studying nitrous oxide. Pooping King Penguins in Antarctica. It had an unexpected effect on their cognitive state. Recent study published in the journal Science of the total environment reports. How Professor Bo Elber Laying and his team from the University of Copenhagen's Department of Geosciences and natural resource management went quote coup. While working. I just started lafrance. Yeah so Penguin Guano produces significantly high levels of nitrous oxide around their colonies. Professor Elbowing told. Afp after nosing about Guano. For several hours one goes completely cuckoo. One begins to feel ill and get a headache. Sides being a strain on the climate. It's three hundred times more damaging to the environment then carbon dioxide by the way Besides that I just excited also sedative. Gas often used in dentists offices. The side effects of the sedative laughing gas include feelings of euphoria relaxation call miss and fits of giggles as well as confusion headaches and nausea. This is the same stuff that you'll see people with balloons at parties. And maybe you so beyond so that makes your voice funny we're talking about no nitrous oxide. But this doesn't sound like it's the happy dentist kind of stuff that must be synthetic right this. No I mean I think if you're talking about just nitrous oxide to all right so it seems like a moderate amount of Penguin Guano would be good if you're rolling around too much of it so you need to measure it out like these pot distilleries. You need to get it measured just right so you can sell it at a roadside kiosk. Hey Man we're going to compete with these participate. We've got Penguin Guano. This is a good amount best. You will get nauseous and you'll be happy and it's like a trip to the dentist without you know the Rx without the prescription you don't have to have a PPO or whatever you don't have to have a health plan is yeah we you also see. All those like unpleasant canisters the leave lying around the music festivals nowadays is always the little cat because that's the way they'd get laughing gas now is for the it's sold for a cream with cream expenses and instead you just bringing it into the festival and it's a little ganic it just goes into the soil off towards. It's actually a good fertilizer the environment so you just bring a few penguins. Works must have been a genius by calling it. Happy Food Grade I was you we George Miller. I worked on both of Mad Max fury road. They're both of them. And he and Robin Williams together to the nicest human beings no sense of of fame or anything. Just the nicest experience you could ever have in your life. He directed both directed babe pig in the city to Zeus. And Roxanne was Steve Gutenberg and our sitting down one night and watching Mad Max fury road babe pig in the city and happy feet and the same humor dancing because they were high on nitrous oxide which is end to jokey too many great Morgan Freeman impression. Is I think Josh Robert Thompson is probably the number one But it would have been nice to say. They need to keep warm in the winter months and luckily there's plenty of bad penguin Guano to keep them happy. Yeah I would put you up there. I'd avoid Josh Robert Thompson. I don't know if you josh. But his he was the voice of the skeleton on the Craig. Ferguson shouldn't show and He his instagram has been nominal. But you must frank. Kelly ended as a good one. Tom Kaine is a good one. But who you will base surprise at the voice has come out of this white boy as he says it is so good it is so good. I it's like me doing my Bernie Sanders and then you go. No no no James domiant. That's who you have to go so we've had. He's on this podcast in the early days. Scott he is we we took you away from the science of mostly got through the So you can link to this article this show notes so yeah the Nice nitrous. Oxide is a result of the penguins. Diet of Krill and fish both of which contain high levels of nitrogen after defecating. Niger's released from the Penguin Guano into the ground where soil bacteria convert it into the greenhouse gas nitrous oxide and the end result that is that is laughing gas so they were studying if you're wondering what they were studying whether we're getting high on the laughing gas. A. The impact of the penguins nitrogen output glacial melting on the levels of Air Pollutants in South Jersey ahead to that my is prescribing that for me to cure taking. I take it for the last three weeks. That you've been England. Mr Poppin poppers pop and tangled poop. We wrote a song what we'll frozen stuff and and creature is there is this story sends him by Holly Gabrielson of Nevada frequent reconfirmed to the show and roommates I should say of my but scientists melted ancient ice and a long dead worm ridden so yeah in all sorts of aliveness. A team biologist melted some Siberian across to look from microbes and an ancient survivor wave. Hello in the slightly floral a writing a feature as dot com but it is linked to a Washington Post article. So I do trust of the University Tennessee. Microbiologist Tatyana Vishnu Vits Work Petri dish. Yeah thank you. That's a solid science scientist named from a Hollywood movie as well like that's real like Tatyana fifteen. That's real good next block. It's going to be played by Scott Johann. That's incredible that is so very shelly that there's hope for Disney right. The cryogenics does does that mean. Oh Yeah who did that? Were obviously at some point you. You're asking yourself how did the Worm Harish? Yes so I don't think so so. It was on the Petri dish it was it was Paul nematodes half millimeter long roundworms that sprang back to life. As the ICE FOR ICE AGE ERA. Frost melted around them. The against lot survival story may suggest that life could survive extreme conditions including those on other planets Vishnevskaya. I hope I've saying differently every time. But they're all conversions things that the worm which of the most complex organism to survive being frozen and thawed so far at least are forty years old. She said yes so. She suggested that the Washington Post that they could have survived indefinitely in the ice as long as the poem across state stable if they survived forty one thousand years worms nematode expert. Gaetan Burgundy of Belgium's extreme life. Your Institute has one of those worms. I would have preferred John Lennon voice. Yeah with forty one thousand years old. We're older than Jesus and their start a controversy. All over again see see. I know we're getting away from worms science again but I I've gone for a couple of cartoon voice acting auditions mostly with little success. The one time I did land I was. I had to follow the aforementioned John Dimaggio in the booth which was West Bender. He's bender and he's the and he's few few of the main voices on adventure time and he's like he's like call us one of those guys who does every six people who do almost every cartoon voice in Hollywood and friend into the Shirt Lorraine Newman. It's another one. Yeah just one of the. I think once you get a reputation for you can do the job and you can do five different. So that's exactly what he did. He went in and knocked out five different characters. Well every nickelodeon gathered to watch and then I came in and struggled through my one for twice as long relative to what you do right. Yeah but what I was GONNA ask. Is that process? When you go for the audition when you have to imagine you mostly just given the gig where they give you. A picture of this character isn't a brief character breakdown and then it's just your job to come up with. Like what are they sound like and with you what happens with did you start going through the little mental? Rolodex of people have mats and celebrities and people from your life and what you can kind of people you might know Billy West at always it. Celebrity mashups are good thing. Mr Crocker from fairly appearances a hybrid of Harry Shearer's work of Montgomery the symptoms mixed with Richard Dreyfuss and gene wilder. You know so you could be very which is very close to my kids are sleeping but so yeah in that case you blend and then you you borrow from yourself. You know you if you went to inside out and you looked at the Brazilian Helicopter come flying with Meka Cina to slightly different Roco sort of a more cuckney than Australian. But and then if he take him and you remove these exit and go. Hey scoutmaster lump is. You're pretty much the same active I did. Cheeto is a pleasure to see your Donald. You Doing Mike was Husky which I've done since two thousand and one you're right there in the same same octave and you just drop things in here. It's all manipulation and until you dance around and learn tricks so oftentimes. It's from a physical drawing that you get or or they're saying they want John John C reilly type. Hey what's going on guys? Say Oh man this is just nuts. I'm on silent giant grilling chasing him. You know so. Sometimes you were given an archetype or with Rocco. Yeah these big guys and his teeth with to the side and a big long snout any looked right to me and I. I just happened to guess right. You know well Tom. Kenny was spongebob. You can't imagine any other voice coming out of that little yellow sponge although there were probably several people that audition and Tom just had the right voice in the right places right time and and with John John has really good instinct and and it basically. You're using different tools. I finally got to do this little kid in summer. Camp name Brandon and everybody picked on us to help him out and brush my teeth with him and he would talk like that instead of making money. They're making you bonhomie me until I finally got us that in a Kiko Playing the kid talks just like that. So you draw from life experience or whatever or Matt if I want to work on catching production. The you know reasonably close. I would spend time listening to your podcast and try as best as I can to to do it. I'm GonNa mess you up then. 'cause my accent has shifted because I've lived at to use podcast which is how I would often pronounce it but five ten years ago when I was more. You really accent in the second half. Well we say podcast. Your Porterhouse was on the weekend and you do you say we. How would I say you still accent? Second weekend at the weekend about you think you think you say end with the first syllable so so what are you what are you do? You say we can thing. We're getting back to science and the Russian of of voice or of tone or of dialect as you immerse yourself through Osmosis you become less of the original quality that you were right. My my mom was still has her Spanish accent. My Dad was British educated in Argentina. So he has no accent. Was the headmaster's vibe ause there in Loma. And they spoke beautiful Spanish but they instruct is a very hogwarts saying albums looking school. The virus was my dad student goes. Oh your follow. Good old boy never had to give him six of the best and so for me in. Argentina. While my dad grew up he was going to this British school and now in his later age and even when he came in the fifties he had no accent at all he was able to train his ear to do something else while my mom did not have that and she was got a lead does a stop sign. And so this your. Your experiences is experience of Samosas. You're you're becoming less of original quantity of something or quality of something. Well Yeah and I. I wonder now whether I'm sure there are studies. That have been done this but I wonder whether within the English speaking world accents all less distinct now than they would have been twenty years ago because of just how much more intermingling there is. Everyone's what youtube videos and the social media from so many other countries simultaneously. There's so much more communication between people from different firstly different cities within the same country then different countries or it is happened. Just I sure did happened within the Westernization of civilizations you know whatever we exported exported became part of a culture that had no link to US beforehand. And so you know you go. China had big rack. Dude you know what? Where did you hear that you know you're right? I think you're absolutely correct. We're so intermingled. Now with so many forms of communication that we're able to sort of just slip in or borrow and that happens physically that that happens you know I it. It is very interesting and it. It's very definitive. Like if you live in New York you're going to be any your voice actor. I think it'd be better trained to do more character. Voices you know all this theater people they they live they see it in close proximity to them. It's like yeah. Let's let's call it catching the cultural virus you know. You're you're you're swinging around these people all the time and if you're paying attention you will whereas you know you grow up in a rural area like I. I was lucky because I grew up in Concord California blue-collar Sixties and seventies and we were all pretty much the same but I luckily my best as parents from Glasgow and and my parents loved P. B. S. Television. We and we watch monty python so without those two entities existing in my life. I don't become the person or have the career that I have doing. Voices I would have been just like anybody else growing up in Concord California save and I think if you move to New York in their twenties. You're not gonNA have the same experience that you had as a kid when your brain is still malleable having so much diversity of sound coming to your head just to finish off stories. So Cyborg Noto love details this but Bergen he told. The Washington Post that nematode survive in the harshest environments on Earth? They'd been found miles beneath the surface of the earth and in oxygen deprived mine shots for example he sees the animal's usual resilience here as a sign that life could exist on other less hospitable planets. It's very good news for the system. He said Yeah So. You wouldn't use it. Forty-one thousand think about movies like a lesion and and the Martian and obviously it seems to be at least a goal of Elon. Musk to to happen. The speed of discovering other planets and this one is is going to rid itself of us. We're the virus right. Everybody's always said that we're sort of the virus that all that I think we'll be gone. I think we're well I mean eventually everything's gone. Well Yeah I think I think other species of creatures will live long. You know like worms or whatever. We're we're we're we`re. I think exponentially destroying it at a pace that we. Oh No I definitely but when people when people anthropomorphized the planet and act like it's it's like shaking us off the planet is a thing it doesn't it doesn't have. He's not mad at justness. It's just bad. It is like it's occupying solar system and providing air and oxygen that humans can breathe and sun and water that we can drink and it may not be always the case for this species to survive whereas the worms like. Hey works for me I got. I got a better parking space now and forty one thousand years old. These worms are like prime candidates for this at the at the ballots. Right I mean the old old nominee I get. We've got a bunch of old people running for when I wish a kid forty-one thousand years ago they didn't have humans had T. Rex is the Dana carvey bitterly. We could update character own man. We loved it matter. You think we have time for one more or should we wrap it up. I think I think we have time for A. How do you feel about a mother story? And then and then maybe we could. If if you've got an extra couple of minutes maybe we could do. Some bees a patron booster. I'm GONNA put this mud story in here because it's just something that popped up on the BBC news today when I was looking through what we're talking about living all the planets this feels appropriate mud flows on the red mud flows on red planet behaved like boiling toothpaste as a video. That accompanies this. Scientists have made a surprising discovery about Mas by playing with Muck in the laboratory. An international team of researchers wanted have volcanoes that spew mud instead of multiple rock might look on the Red Planet compare with that counterparts here on Earth in chamber experiments simulated Martian mud flows was seen to behave a bit like boiling toothpaste under certain conditions. The fluid even began to bounce the mucky guns resembled a certain type of law referred to as how here we go. Ho Ho Ho. I think Sopa Jojo P. A. H. E. Hoa which is observed. Hawaii's famous clough. Can you have so? You're still your my son. You're right now. The the research results could now complicate some investigations of the Red Planet. Police study lead dope to Patriot. Rose from the Czech Academy of Sciences. Choose of physics. You look at some features and space and you won't know for sure whether they are the result of lava flows mudslides geologist on the ground. The hit with a hammer. It'll be hard to tell so. We need to get a hammer on Tamaz. Now I bring that worse. It sounds like seventy discovered slob it. I've also I don't know about that. I read this story a couple of days ago and ever since then I've been trying to do my bit for citizen science by standing on the roof of a building and throwing a hammer lot of trouble mixing analogy to to make something relatable tells. You tells us that it behaves like boiling toothpastes thing. We've all experienced boiling exactly. Yeah I am a be. We didn't have the vapor. Rub each a toothpaste ferment. Take a take a lighter. Take a cigarette lights at your teeth. Paste behaves so. Dr Had a skeptical view for a long time about mud. Volcanoes a the phenomena a well known here on earth but he's actually spent several years trying to disprove prove an interpretation that large numbers of non clinical forms on the planet might be the same thing eventually. He came around to the idea that tim to wonder how mud if it really does. Speak from the ground on MAS behave in extreme cold and low pressure conditions so he went to Dr Manish Patel and his team at the case Open University. That has Special Chamber. That can recreate. The Martian environment is kind of setup in which equipment destined to go on a space agency. Roof would be tested so normally they keep a spotlessly clean but instead they were tipping muddy fluids down the sandy slope and under earth conditions. These mixes behaviors. You'd expect smooth gravy poured onto a dinner plate but on the Martian conditions the mud progressives viruses of ropy and jagged lobes. It all comes down to have a low atmospheric pressure which is less than one percent of the earth's makes water rapidly evaluate evaporate boy automated freeze the skin on the fluid freezes but this florist thick enough that the inside the mention words could survive on my name. This conditions like there's only one way to find out and that's my precious specimens. That's both out of the lab so the skin the skin will stop the flow forbid but then the momentum from the fluid inside breaks through the weak points of the skin and the flow propagates food. It's just like this. Behold except it's multi rock but again it's except that is molten rock rather but again as a cooling skin the forms before your bus through looking at this picture now yes I've seen videos of Ohio flows that coke can getting taken over by slow moving lava. Nobody's saying that yeah. It's his interesting. They did subsequent experiments. They flows repeated for hot on. Mas Wrecking get US highest twenty degrees C for short periods. That's pretty womb. That's room temperature. Temperature here around seventy Fahrenheit sixty eight but okay. I'm realize the sites around I didn't realize the malls got so Balmy. But yeah I'm feeling better living now. I Don Carlos. Chance back in the in the heyday of your skydiving risk-taking years. If you had known there was a there was a call like spacex style for people who are willing to three hundred mission to Mars or seven hundred days. Is that a thing that young Carlos and having the money I probably would have done it. Foolishly Yeah I don't think they would've needed money. They would have paid you money but you have given up to a year of your life and know hack. I'm not a farmer Damon but I would have given a shot cal we should. We should wind up the main episode. 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Craig Ferguson

"We want to thank our sponsor legion. 'em They are a wonderful company. We love working with them. You can go to their website. Legion 'em they're also on all the various socials they do really fun meet ups You can talk to directors you can become a part of the projects they choose the even. Have a program right now where you can help them find great movies to support so go to their website to learn more. We also want to remind you that we have a patriotic that we call multi on. You can join us. We have three dollars five dollars ten dollars. Twenty dollar options. You can get newsletters from my dad All kinds of neat stuff behind the scenes. Hang out with us. Learn about who our guests are before anybody else and listened to the podcast before anybody else go patriot dot com slash. Multan on movies for more information. That's Patriot dot com slash maltin on movies to everybody. I'm Leonard Maltin Best Laws. Yeah forget anything we forget anything. We can always pause this leave this we have to leave this and so the people know that how welcoming you are saying. I think that's good all right. Then you know what we will lead done that no you shooting you. Bring Innovation Walk in the room That's I don't know who you are but you walk in the room. Well I I like it because you start. You introduced yourself. I mean I know who you are but you introduce yourself anyway which I think is classy but I feel like you should have introduced you co host I because that would be classier that would be. It wouldn't but I didn't know that I was well I got that's it. That's it all right. Well let's start again. Everybody going going right right. Hi. She's Jesse Maltin Leonard. Maltin yonder apiece. Okay and you're listening to Maltin on movies. Which has already begun yet. No now you're coming late. Yeah Okay. We'll see like this when you were honestly you'd be nitpicky. Did you make you like that? He goes over your homework and stuff without loving neurotic. Ma'am yes I that. Yeah and the other guy. You're listening to is Craig Ferguson. Yes that's right. I am But I knew that Leonard. Yeah I mean I. I wondered a little bit about earlier on in my life but I'm fairly confident I know it now. Well good it sounded. Scottish is your name. Just like Steve Smith or US thought various. Now there's there's a forty overs in Scotland I think yeah I take that But the every year we we fight Title B only want sure that can be only one not yet field that we say Craig in a ridiculous way because something that happens when I am in Scotland if I say craggy goats Craig the to correct me as well no because apparently I've I've been away so long I sound very American Because they'll say oh I see well I think you do understand. You're just being mean to me. Goes up correctly. No it's I don't think I particularly American I know I'm Gonna I I can assure you but I think it changes a if I'm honest I think when I'm when I'm talking to someone on television WHO's very American or who I don't know I probably get a little more mid Atlantic I think part of it is just slowing down. Yes that's it is it is but when you go on that sometimes you get Scottish. People that are numbly so the go some way for me. Sometimes people in Scotland who are a bit mumbling. That's quote good. Are you okay? Are you wear many of us? Many of US Americans who consider ourselves reasonably worldly Don't know what the hell you guys are saying. Look I know you're reasonably lured Lisa. You you will. Understand is a concept. Sometimes people. In different countries talk differently but not while allegedly conversing the same language the same language. I think that that's that's what people I think is the same language or accent of the same line. We just know it's a different language but it's written the same. Cantonese and Mandarin. It's written the same but it sounds different and it's spoken differently. Scott English is not English. It's Scott Scott It's a different language but I tell my parents that my own personal rule is you're only allowed to say what three times and this is specifically went into taxicab right when the guy says something in you go- I'm sorry what you get three and then you give up. Because you're care they'll say hey end and then you're saying my favorite always is getting into attacks because it happens most with taxicabs they here they go. Are You American? I say yeah they go. I knew it and I WANNA say well. Yeah Yeah. You're not special. Because I sound about Eric Tritium in route of themselves that they've sorted out like you know what if this brings you joy I'm okay. I think it's fine but I. I would question the wisdom in judging a nation based on its taxi drivers in America. I don't know maybe there's more to America than just the guys driving the caps. Well I mean no disrespect to cab. Drivers don't know the the the only poignant part of that is that there used to be a living stereotype in New York City. Where I'm from the New York cabdriver. Yes and you see him caricatured and lots and lots of old movies and he was typically from Brooklyn yet and it was a he not as she slept during World War Two right when because of the labor shortage in ladies. Go to dry. If he's got to drive a world more time to let them vote so I missed that that prototypical New York way. You're going pal. Let's do it all. Righty he went the way of the New York Delicatessen. Waiter dead SPEC- yet. What do you want to eat? Well mumbling that's mumbling New York Delicatessen. Right right grumbling before we lose the the tiniest thread of of a through line here We just WanNa make it clear that Craig has visited us today in part partly probably because he just loves being in the San Fernando Valley. I have to say is one of America's great national treasures. It should be a national park from Zita All the way along Burbank Boulevard up to Panorama city and down to the. Oh boy. It's just beautiful. It sure is and more beautiful. Now that you've joined us that while as a bit Resi if you've been if you've been missing seen Craig on a regular basis you can now go to comedy dynamics which is housing a six part. Oh Yeah you have serious and then I was like Oh yeah yeah yeah. You're doing hoping Hobo fabulous fabulous ads on Amazon and I tunes and crackle and Bingo and Zippy in whatever the hell people are watching the ready or whatever it is if I understand correctly from what little I got to see so far a hybrid of documentary and stand up special. Yeah well I was doing. I was on the road and I had written this standup act. The I I give myself a rule before I wrote with my right and partner Joe Bolton and we we give ourselves a rule before we wrote it that we would write an hour and a half to two hours of standup material that would have no politics at all non zero. And because we done I just as stylistic experiment more than an analysis if we could do we did do it but but but because we are south that task it came by its very nature very kind of intimate show because we mind my past and my stories in my life for material and so in order to put that kind of shoe into a special. I didn't want to cut it down to an hour. I didn't want to cut it down so that it would wherever streaming service 'cause they always say and we can't have it really more than sixty five minutes and stuff like that so. I thought well rather than do that. I'll try and I'll spread and try and create an intimacy that the television viewers don't usually get with stand up special which will see backstage and see on the Boston. Meet the family and see the evolution of material and I have a joke changes from one town to the next time and stuff like that and it kind of you know. It's an experiment and I'm not quite sure. How Tornado sometimes with an experiment. You invent penicillin and sometimes you know you just make a bad smell and I think it's it's somewhere between a bad smell and penicillin. I HOPE CLOSER TO PENICILLIN. But you never really know. It's a stand you entry astonishment Yeah that's what I'm going to go. Yeah it's funny because I I don't because I've I've made it no because it's it's about making a film Mike The you make it and when it's done it's done and I and I'll know how I feel about it in about ten years You know and then I'll think well. Yeah that worked or didn't and whatever anybody even if people say it works people say it doesn't work now. I wouldn't know how I feel about it until ten years from now Yeah it's weird is like the historian. Neil Ferguson WHO's no relation to my knees much too smart to be an actual blood relation. But he says that history begins about one hundred after hundred years after the event when you can actually be objective and I think when when it's a little bit like that that you about ten years after you go. Yeah that was good. That's why I think you see filmmakers who are affectionate for movies. That flopped yet. They don't care because they look at it ten years ago. I don't care that flopped. I made a movie in two thousand which flip terribly by love that movie. Which is the big tease. The movie about the hairdresser about Scottish hairdresser that comes to La and it was a complete financial disaster. But I really good phone. Yeah great thanks. I liked that movie. It's a kid movie. Yeah I think so too it just it just. It's funny. Sometimes things catch fire become fashionable. And sometimes they don't sometimes just crab remained crapping. The you know you don't really know. Well that's why we hate the The term instant classic. I hated most. I've seen it's not. It's not real. I know I know that people take a lot of license With words now yes spell stupid. People have land to type accurate grammars mass. Fine fine fine fine but there are certain things that just cannot be like jumbo shrimp. An instant classic you cannot moronic version of an oxymoron. Yes you know. It has to be at least ten years. Yeah he's ten years at ten. You can start to say it's a classic also the thing is it's like my my the example was used for in books it's Moby Dick and in movies. It's night of the Hunter Moby Dag. Herman Melville dives thinking. That was a was a giant failure. you know the risk is like a now? That's a classic American literature or the night of the hunter. Which is you know the only movie that Charles Lawton directed yeah. It was a total failure at the time But now they're they`re. They're guys walking around with love and hate tattooed on their knuckles. Don't even know the derivation right from. Yeah and and it's it's kind of. It's really interesting because you lose. That movie is such a favorite of movie geeks. Now who were probably the same people that was of savaged? At the time I it really is kind of interesting to watch that. It's like time adds a very odd thing Quality to any form of our I think. And it gives a reverence. Sometimes it deserves and sometimes it doesn't like see the morning light. When you go see the Mona Lisa Paris? You'll let everybody come on. Admit it you go largely because it's just not very big. I think that's part of it. I remember as a little kid going to the Statue of Liberty for the first time in thinking. It's not that big no the Statue of Liberty. The I was impressed by that but I was. I saw that coming from Scotland when I was thirteen. Sure sure I think for me. Thought it was a Nike Lady of. I mean it is the American League. He's huge. We are yeah. Giant lady with the torch is exciting average day in New York. I just didn't I don't know what I expected. I think I just expected it to be so big. I couldn't even see the top expect to be like a cartoon where there were cloud over the scene as a Kid. I went disciplines. What brought you here h thirteen. Well there was a a confluence of events. My I my father's little brother James Michael James and his wife. My Aunt Susan moved immigrants. Here and late nineteen fifties and in the nineteen seventies. The nine hundred seventy five. I think when I was thirteen I There was a gentleman called Freddie Laker. Who was Richard Branson? Oh Yeah I remember free like and Freddie Laker started running really cheap flights. Gm Scotland to America from PRESTWICK AIRPORT SCOTLAND TO JFK so for my thirteenth birthday. My Dad and I went to visit my uncle Jim. I think it costs like fifty quid. Which was like a hundred bucks at the time and you know and it was a round trip to. America explains why his airline is no longer receives a shame because it was. I don't know if it was a good airline but we go there. We go back so I think that's pretty good. That's pretty and so. I came here when I was thirteen. It was just a little bit of luck but at a huge impact on me because that was a very impressionable age and I think at that point I started become an American. You know I I I. It was such a such an impressionable age in such a huge difference at the time. Because I think if you went from Glasgow to New York City now you're bombarded with imagery and contemporary reports and there's the Internet and social media so it wouldn't be such a change to go music though right. I like everything was the I never tasted root beer until I came to America. You know what I mean is like I went to a bowling alley. I've never been to a bowling alley and the and and I thought they said. Would you like root beer was like beer? I'm only thirteen land in the world and there was crushed ice. I'd never had crushed general. Well I'd see nice but we didn't use it for beverages but it was crushed ice and bowling alleys and And Root Beer I mean. That's that's my overwhelming sensation Oh was and it was sunny. A law at the time very interest. I can't imagine it was a huge culture shock for me at the time. How long did you stay? There was only about three weeks thing. That's a long time. It was yeah and I had my thirteenth birthday In the in the United States. That's a big deal. Yeah and I went to an American high school. My American cousins were in school and Smithtown in Long Island and I went to an American High School for one day and I and I still remember it because they were doing the pledge of allegiance and I was like why we all stand up and I I didn't know what to do and of course. I didn't know the pledge of allegiance. I was like the things joining and I had my hat and my chest was all freaky to me. As really weird I went to the Military Tattoo in Edinburgh years ago. This is my first trip to Edinburgh. I was with and we hear songs start and we go. Oh my country except it's not so was God save the Queen. We're singing it and all of a sudden these is there stick because they think that we're oh you think Casablanca were being disrespectful. The perfect description right for anybody coming into this is like the movies television. It's I don't know who had the Choon I I don't think I don't know. WanNa give too much of my own personal away. But I don't know how much God save. The Queen is really a song. I'm really into their. Let me say this. I wish that women no harm but I don't know if I'm quite prepared to go as far as Magog. Save you saw it on Lincoln today. it it mentioned that. Queen Elizabeth is looking for a new head of social media. Oh this could be your time. I don't think I'm who she wants. I know I. I'm very American in the sense that if you want me to work for you. I'm going to need cash you can't. I'm not going to work for you. Say calling me Sir. Like CASA I'll go and buy a pair of sneakers to get cold so Y- you will be called Sir. Now this is going to be cash. Cash is fine by appointment from Royal. Highness yes I always had a problem with actually because I I was introduced To Jacob Admiral. Once Garden Party and I was introduced to of Princess Diana at one point years ago and I don't bow I- seven a Sushi restaurant. No building another human being just caused that. I'll bow if you're a Sushi Chef Alberto because that's just been too something. I don't offer that so it creates a little bit of awkwardness. When you don't I mean they didn't mention if nobody said how dare you not bow to me but you but the the people around them are like now. You'll bow when Roy Heiner smokes. Oh I'm not going to be done and Philip could have a really good time. I don't know about that. I think he probably subscribes to a system of social social structure. The perhaps I don't feel as comfortable with the as he would fair. I'm more so imagine the joking. And the drinking. Yes I think certain point in my in my life we would have probably going on. Okay I remember actually at the Garden Party. I said to him because he was like. Do you take it was an Edinburgh actually joined the festival and so I said. Are You staying here your Royal Highness while you're by years Said well I'm here for the Festival Cadaver Room here and shelf in your refrigerator. I promise I will not Jay Leno. You put labels on my stop. It's a stupid joke right even and walked away the hustled away very quickly the handlers were his footman perhaps a special. I would watch Of the two guys share a council without driving you crazy. A royal prince. He's some wake from US looking glass by grow authority to say this. But I'm giving you a thirteen episode pickup right right but we're garbage your royal deer. Now you have. It seems to me you have utilized and Spoken and written and performed virtually if not literally every medium that exists. I think so yeah. I think that's right. I haven't done any video games Okay there's there's a there's a threshold. Yeah I think I think that's the only thing I've done over the now I would love to see. I'm an old school guy. Like pinball and Video Game Leonard. That's just a tactile bomb shit. I was just thinking about being in an arcade and being cheered on by recorded version of you saying I I. I'm fifty actually the first time I may make Myers said them. You do a great Scottish accent and he said to me. No good as you're charming. I think he's charming man. I one of the things that impressed me in your resume because I remember when it when it came out. You actually wrote a novel. Yes me. That's I mean I've always enjoyed your work truly yeah But I said boy to write a novel. That's that's a big deal with the deal for you. Yeah what the reason I wrote that. Noval. I'm right. I'm right in another one right now. You know what member Peter Cook. Yes Pir Cook was a mentor for me. Oh how he could. He was just a beautiful man and he was very kind very helpful to me when I was when I was young but whenever anyone used to say they were. I'm writing a book right now and I. He used to save whenever anyone said to have. I'm writing a book. He would always see neither am. I but I am writing another novel. Nightmares women me. Think of that and the reason I wrote the first one was because I just made a film and the film. I directed the phone. I star in the foam and I'd written the film films called. I'll be there and I don't like the foam and I and it's more than ten years amid phone is still. Don't like the phone as long as bad as I thought it was. But it's still not what I would admit and the reason. I think that I didn't look the the the blame lies with me. Oviously but the reason why the film is not the way I wanted it to be is because I made a lot of changes because a film requires you to listen to a lot of different people and and do a lot of things and sometimes that helps and sometimes and the kiss of this film. I don't think it did but I was. I made the mistakes. I'm not trying to make anyone else's fault but I made mistakes and took council which probably wasn't as helpful as it is a good bit and so I thought I want to the next thing I wanted to do. I want to do something where I take. No Consul Tall. Where I where. I don't have to talk to anyone I don't have to. I don't even have to have an audience approve. It doesn't even have to be funny. So the only format thank off was a a novel. The Iro on SPEC and I didn't I didn't deal with the publisher and then when I when I ruined the novel and the rather kind of Nice confluence of events. I I wrote the novel it was finished and then I got the late night show so the late night show made me famous. Who had a lot of people wanted to publish it? But I wouldn't do a publishing deal with anyone and lastly printed the novel I wrote because of course comes on and says you know we should probably cut the chapter about the guy and I'm like no no cutting any chapters about the guy that stays ends all statement so always fix the spelling mistakes and they put it up and I so I wanted to I it was. It was an exercise in and can have a clear. In my head a little you know or or Megalomania if you want to be negative about it but it was it was It was to to do something where I felt. Totally in control of what was going on well and that makes sense that makes perfect sense. Yeah Now the first two films you made though Both which I enjoyed very much you you wrote co wrote and cowrote partner yet and did not direct did not do. I didn't star. Yeah and they were. They were much success. Clearly is the direction. That's the problem with the one that I directed 'cause I would probably go on making more films had I not go corralled into late night You know but that can just just takes you away from everything and so I was I cast myself in the film and that was the biggest mistake I actually made on. Phil. I don't think I I don't think direct and it was the mistake I think me being in it was the missing. I also during the shooting of the movie had a motorcycle accident about three days and it principal photography and I broke McCullough born in three reds so more so most of the shoot I was in agony Trying to make it. So that's that's my excuse for the film. Actually you know what you go on like. Run to me as it's like it's rotten but only slightly sixty eight percent or something like six point five on. Imdb or some of that. So it's it's not great but nobody say this is the worst film we've ever seen. It's just seize your best anybody that makes films everybody's GonNa feel like that. Yeah so when you were growing up what I mean because you're a musician to you. You do everything you really do everything. What did did one thing intrigue you more than something else or was it just performing I. I don't know the I don't know that I really thought about it was. It was more because I I had a very odd It's really about time and I think most of life is about timing. I was when I was coming up through school system. In Britain in the nineteen seventies was an experiment the called comprehensive education which it it didn't work and it was very It was very tricky Because it it treated kids. I think lake Statistics and that doesn't work and it and it certainly didn't what for me so I bailed on that system when I was sixteen but I wasn't a dumb kid I just was. I needed some guidance in that wasn't available at the time an obese fault but it's just the way it was so what happened is a became an autodial. Dr Suppose I remain curious and remained interested in in everything to do with the ours and I could read and write had told me how to do that so I i read an and was allowed myself to be led by events there you know because I was a certain age. San Time punk rock was happening and punk rock then was very different. The way people remember a punk rock wasn't just me. It was of course about the music. The music was was the engine off it but really it was a it was a fashion and a movement and and you know it was really designed by you. Know Vivienne Westwood Malcolm Waste. But let's be honest And she created a whole imagery that was so striking and and with that imagery and with the music was coming from the young bands the IT created an environment where all young people where n bands all young people were inbounds. It was a thing that you did like being in a band when I was sixteen. Seventeen years old was like the week. Kids have twitter accounts now. You just you had to be in a band now. The the difference was in. I was pretty good. I was a pretty good drummer. So I get drawn at a p bans where I started to meet people. I wouldn't normally have matt real musicians. Artistic people people who were connected to the theater and two movies and so I get dragged into a world through through that time that I would never have been anywhere near that world Because of just the nature of the way things were at the time it was like everybody was an artist like the same way. Everybody is a critic now. Sure about but it's a very different thing for new criticism that we you and the way. The criticism is perceived. This is completely different. Thing is. It's not it's not the same. Well no I mean there's no It's not regarded as discipline. Now just people you know a spouting or spewing right and mostly I think it I mean look. We're always critics who were dealing with ruined demons through their hatred of of wherever they were covering. I don't I that was never your problem You have other problems land but that was not on the show but I think the I think. A lot of criticism now is Is the social media because all media is social media now and you know this is actually. There's no such thing as like you know. Top Notch media doesn't make any sense anymore. I it's like the idea I think media knows like You Watch toddlers play. Soccer ball goes one way and they'll just run half the ball and then because they just run out there was no sense to at all like I and I think when you use like twitter or facebook as a source. You're no longer a journalist on. Yeah it's you know But they you know people are saying on twitter like so walk you know. People are writing on the bathroom wall. Like that's shouldn't really be part of story. Yeah but I think that I don't know why the Hell I go on some grapevine about something but I I it just seems to me that The it was very supportive time when I was when I was a kid. It was very in a weird way. Everybody was saying how negatively were like eight more but actually it was very supportive. There was always everything was very autistic. Approbation for what you did. Yeah absolutely and you know. Even the mere fact of Dune something was seen as as positive like because you were writing a song or doing some stand up or you know trying to make a film or wherever. I'm not saying that people don't do that now. I think they do burt and young people I want to make this about. Young people are Biden thing they are. But it's just it's a world which I would have difficulty navigating now. It seems very different. Speak A language that I don't really speak which is suppose is appropriate. Because I'm a fifty seven years old. I shouldn't speak the language of seventeen years old but but yeah but I think that I hear particularly comedians of of my vintage. I hear them saying You can't say this now and you can't say that now. Well maybe you shouldn't said the anyway. I don't think there was any real problem with you. Know you can't see you gotta say hateful horrible things though. I mean that's good. That's good that you guys horrible things and and I think the complaining about people complaining is seems a little strange because that's kind of what you do is a comedian. Right you exercise your right to complain. Comedic Louis you're complaining about me. Well isn't that fair so I I don't WanNa like harsh on the youth I I I don't under- I find that. I think it would be very difficult to grow as an artist in that environment so different. Yeah because your work is out there right away. You don't get to fail and prime you don't get to fail in a club you'll get to fail on a little place you don't get to. An failure is an essential component to learning. Yeah trial and error. That's why it's called dies. They'll call you know trial and succeed. Dr Trial and error. My Dad just found. He's been going through papers and found a stack of rejection letters. He has articles that submitted to now defunct magazine. That's a little bit of pleasure New Yorker which is ongoing. They'll be around for a little bit. You think about that. If it were now he might go online and tweet something like. Oh can't believe I just got a rejection letter from so and so and it becomes sort of bigger as opposed to just being. I think that the there is that weird kind of it. It's not possible to think about something if it's already in the public sphere. I wouldn't be able to process anything but maybe kids can. Yeah Yeah I'M NOT I. There's that the line in the David Bowie song changes. I always go to start finding myself complaining about things when he says these children that use spit on as they tried to change their world. They are immune to your consultations. They're quite aware of what they're going through. And I think that that would be well remembered by my generation older when they complain about young. Maybe getting girls you maybe want to save the planet from the effects of the industrial revolution. I don't see anything wrong with that. You know it goes wrong with a young person saying you know what you guys suck and we should do bear. I think that if young people saying that perhaps Libya should maybe listen to them. I'm trying to listen to the match. I think it's the only thing keeps you. Alive is listening into to the youth not necessarily agreeing with them but but at least here in their point of view the they're not wrong because they're young kids. My oldest son is eighteen and my youngest boy is just coming up nine. Yeah so you have a a test lab right. Yeah well it's it's interesting. They're both very forceful personalities and so they as I respect their point of view which I I felt like the people that I respect the I liked when I was young like. We talked very briefly about pure cook. Peer Cook was a huge star in Britain when I was a young comic and I got in touch with them and asked the Duma a thing for me and he agreed to do it and he knew not only. I'd been doing as a young comedian. But he was aware of other young people were doing. He was very you know he had his own demons. No doubt but he was very Accepting an appreciative of artist what their age were and I feel that that that was really important to me every marked to me and I and I would. I would really hate to be one of those guys that try and squash and people are coming up behind you. That doesn't seem right to mail not at all. We just interviewed Terry. Gilliam and I'll say and And we discuss beyond the fringe. Huge impact had here in the state. Yes yes aim to Broadway with dry with that. Perform that was Jonathan Miller. Pete Dud and That's right and and And then Peter. Cook and Dudley Moore went off on their own as as seem several films. Derek and Clive and the the dazzled the dazzled is a great and they're in the wrong box together which is a very funny. Yep Yep and They they really made a deep deep impression one thing about beyond the fringe which I mentioned during our conversation with Terry that they did an original cast album. Yeah and I had that I I took it out of my public library and played it over and over and over until I had virtually memorized it And I think what I could afford. I bought my own and I. It's in my head to this very day. Do you have any of the Derek and Clive Recur? No I don't I should. I don't know how you what your language restriction as a but they yeah I don't I don't know if things were necessarily bear then but it's just the language that I speak and I was very appreciative of these guys like You Know Billy Connolly as well was always a very billy was like Jackie Robinson for me. You know he's like before belly. Nobody from where I was from did anything you know. That's why he became a hero. Yes absolutely remain so to me. I and one of the great things about About meeting him. 'cause I know you know is that. He's satisfying pleasant and crazy and nice and supportive. And that's really great and very young. The greatest feeling for me always is when you meet someone with their family And because I grew up with his family right seeing how he was a dad seeing that he was so playful and sweet and very loving and very nurturing even just two kids in school you know he was always right kind to all of us. That makes it so whenever I I am in the UK where he is a god and people talk about him. I can say. And he's a wonderful person you know and you can see that you know him so you can lord it over auto reason to exist. What can I hold over? You wondering on the soundtrack of the Pixar movie brave? Yes You and and both play roles in that film right Is that some sort of a Scottish force field. Is there daydream overnight? Or FROM SCOTLAND IS IN I. I mean I I know more people who are in that movie then. I don't think I know anybody who's in that movie it's It was a it was a funny one I didn't I don't know if I am before. Or after the hang of his before it'd be before we didn't want to voice voice over on separately. Yeah now was Lemony Snick at your first. Brush with cinema. No lambing SNICK. It came after the I don't know why don I I I got done saving grace. I T's I done independent films. I'd done some vampire movie here in Hollywood is pretty awesome And lemony SNICK. It was a movie which series of unfortunate events young. It was called and the director. Whose name escapes me. Sadly in a moment of US quite pleasant man he had called me up and said look. We don't have any lines but we want to improvise a bunch of things for these characters in the script so he got me and you gotTa Bunch of other improvisers and we and we did stuff and it was all of the movie all of it. so Basically an extra in the film but it was a two and a half hour makeup job for the character. I was playing because I was playing tonight to call the person of indeterminate gender and halfway done so I was a break on one side and wearing a suit and the is cut down the middle. Actually I would imagine it probably would get you in trouble now for that kind of anyway it was a long makeup job and I was standing. It was just assist hateful. I just hated that. Oh took hours I think. Actually the makeup artist won an Oscar for that movie. But it was a long long time and I don't. I don't like all that stuff so I was. I was just bored by remember stands at the craft service table. One day and Walter Parks was one of the producing. Moving water. Of course is huge Producer in Hollywood missed like giant movies. And all that kind of thing and he'd come over and he'd seen the independent movies I've done. So how'd you enjoy making these big movies? Necessa- be honest. I hate it. I hate it moves. It moves like molasses As an is boring I never want make another one of these and he said to be ready said well. I think we can arrange that. And he made me laugh. O.'s very grumpy that day and after two and a half hours meg. I actually think it was more than that. I think it was closer to four hours. Make I mean it was just the because I make up and they were waxing my arms and it was. Some people are built for that and can do. I don't have the patience for it. I just I'm not good at that. I remember Jim Carey. Had Jim was in that movie? He's he's in that. But he's so he's in grinch and he's an intense. I remember reading bringing up a that. They brought in some sort of force. Just saying if you could deal with X. Y. Like waterboarding you can deal with wearing this. Do things like hit himself. Detroit the techniques of Ho survive. I have to say Because it was the only time of Jim Carey. She was fantastic. Yeah he he never applied makeup to me once he was. He was lovely actually he. He's he's a very nice man. I've seen him off and on since an very sweet crazy person but that's all right you don't it's funny when people you say you know like Hey. Tom Cruise is crazy. But yeah he's Tom Cruise He's awesome. He's awesome. Tom Cruise. You got some crazy ideas. I don't care if he's crazy ideas. These Tom Cruise is like Japan. Bruin Christian Bale trouble for Yellen. Not You'RE GONNA blow up on this and I'm like wait so you're paying this guy twenty million dollars a movie to be a dark brooding unseat. He shows up to work. He becomes a dark brooding unstable character and get mad at him. That's ridiculous I it was. I felt that he was really railroaded. That that's sure a line. There's a perfect example of something that Ten years earlier fifteen years earlier would never have known known by the public. And when I when I think it was fairly early in social media but it became a thing yeah sharable yes and when you have a platform to share something I mean that. That's the Nevada of the idea that things can go viral. It means that you could work on something. You could work on a sketch and love it and it could go viral Something you really really proud of could go further than you could have imagined at the same time you tripping and saying off fuck can go viral and you know in the whole world sees you your dad. You guys are more edgy. Family young Wednesday fucked but But he doesn't care what I say thirty three I feel I can. But it's is a north thing because the idea as you say of going viral. I think to myself well. Yes but does it have any real value? Well no no. I don't really know hell. No I mean I don't want to complain about everything. Well a lot of people so it. Well yeah okay. A lot of people so twisters shit movie like how dare you read any time? Somebody brings up that movie. I'm reminded of the fact that I was working at entertainment. Tonight and in my mail one day came the published screenplay of twists. Oh my God which is based on a story by Michael CRICHTON. Yeah you know substantial author. Yeah but it's like anyone want to read the screen pilot. A MEMBER OF THAT BILL. Paxton thank had had this line. Where he he? They're they're both racing to the T. Both guys are racing towards a Tornado. And some guy shows to another guy. He's not in it for the weather. He's in it for the corporate sponsors. Oh my God but member of Film Offman good raise. The Was on the late night show and I brought up twister. Because he's in that movie for how many them and I knew you were going to ask. Oh that's great. That's great now speaking of the late night show which I I have to say to you I still mourn the passing of thank you that though I understand after ten years shows it's not. It was a lot younger But during your rain there was not yet I think the time of social media it was ended up changing his. It was coming in. I mean there were there were it was beginning to happen and I left in. Twenty fourteen ended twenty fourteen. So it was you know. Twitter was around but I don't think with the world domination that it is now the now occupies. Here's the thing that I think about the domination of it though I mean yes certainly. The president of the United States seems to spend his life on it but If you it's kind of like tree in the forest thing if you if you don't see it doesn't exist. No people people going crazy on twitter. Are they okay? I haven't noticed the damn thing. They're so like a lot of people on facebook very angry. Okay it's gone viral. Fine okay good when you when you were doing that nightly show would you have? Would you seek any? You know what I'm looking for. Reaction Immediate reaction it. Does the audience laugh. You're performing for clearly before a live audience. Showed them all the time. And so you knew whether joke you know was was well received. You're not yeah but when the show was over yeah Our was up. Yeah did you just wash your hands of it? Yes Yes you have to. Did you ever You ever run an impeachable sally. Oh I know who he was right Peter Lasalle. If you don't know Peter was the is the great guru of late night television. Peter was the producer of Johnny. Carson's tonight show for thirty years he produced David Letterman. He developed Jon Stewart. E Amini any just my show the whole time. I was on Late night and Pete used to always say the gift and the curse of late night is this. Is that if you do a great show on Mars done next to a terrible show? The gift is does Mars done next? And that's the way you have to approach or you go crazy. At least I think I went crazy anyway to be honest do not show I I. I think I'd go into some very Very old head space towards the end of it and I only started. Komo that once. I knew I was going to go once. I knew I'd actually quit as okay now. I can enjoy it again because it felt seems so ungrateful to say this. I mean I'm very proud of that show and I'm very happy and pleased that I did it but it was like presence in sometimes like why am I gonNa get out of this. When will this ever think that? Sometimes when we see someone like Sam Rubin who's been on television here for ever you know some such a happy guy absolutely but but what I think about sometimes is if I'm seeing him at the seven PM screening but I know that he asked to get up at four. Am or whatever it is. That's how my my loves what. He does one hundred percent. It's just that I'm very. I'm always production minded. Yes so for me. I'm thinking you go really hard when even things like your parent. Yeah you know and there are certain things that you must be honest though like the last three or four years that late night. Show what you what you so. That was me work you know. I turned up. I did it and I left. You know that wasn't the first few years I was there all day but then by the time ago two three three four years I would turn up. We shoot at five return of about three thirty. We should at five and I'd be home by six thirty so it was a three hour day but even then it's like The good thing was that it was a very unusual agana an accident of timing because CBS had been so desperate to get dave after the late night. Wars with you know in the nineties they had given him the real estate on the on the air he owned the time period between eleven. Thirty and one thirty so I really. I wasn't really an antibodies radar like. Cbs didn't care about me because isn't on the show. So the bad thing was the never put up any Bo. Bo's never promoted the show. They never run any trailers resolved. Bullshit like I was a forgotten. Red Headed Stepchild. But the good news was he didn't give a shit about me because so there was no real notes nobody really told me with the new so benign neglect right so it was kind of the best of times it was the worst of. That's part of what made it fun. Though is that it was it felt and to an audience member. Your you know your there but it felt authentic to you. It was an and ridiculous at times and even Jeff which still makes me laugh. It's funny that you all of those things hated. Jeff isn't that funny. It's like I love Jeff Jeff. The Rubio's got Josh Robert Thompson. Who is the is the creative mind behind that character and the the voices and the performance of his just such a genius and And I had started off doing jail. I The idea of Jeff has been kind of protest against the robotic idea of a sake agrees with every new saying and and because George is so good he became such a good sake that my experiment in protest failed completely. Cbs hated hated. Jeff they they hated. That was like it's weird. I always thought I was felt like your show just a little bit of peewee Herman Joe in the way things happen but it didn't feel like a forced how clever we are. No I think is was well. We'll happen without late night. Show is because CBS neglected and didn't give a shit about it. The people who found the show wanted to find it. You had to you because what would happen as like you'd watch Dave an for some reason you say the TV you fell asleep. Maybe during the woke up and I was on and you and I think most people went. This is weird and then watch anymore but the people who went. Wait a minute. There's a horse dancing and the skill of the robot and so you brought the people who wanted to see it to eventually. You had to find the show. Sure it was it was I think that show on. Television was kind of like a cool club and then advertising he. You know you you if you knew it was. A new era was and then. That's that's what it was Do Do did you. How do you relate to the Larry Sanders show? Well that funnily enough I watched A guide watched it when it went out and then I watched again after I go in late night and it's too then. It became just like watching a documentary. But you're hilarious it first and then when you watch it while you're leading hosting yup that's it that's exactly it. It's really weird. I I feel like I was very lucky in the I didn't grow up with A defamation of late night. I didn't care about late night before I did it. I didn't really care about late night when I was doing it. I don't really care about it. Not so it I felt like a load me to be a little freer with the form. I mean I had to follow certain rules. Like you're gonNA wear this suit and you know Is like our I Leeann. If you work in McDonalds you rarely but Other than that Is You know you could do certain things were there. I mean there's certain interviews that people remember in particular of any if I'd like Roszak testify. Say Great Great guests great interview yet. There are a few that stack. I mean. Usually what happens is relationships that you've developed over the years. Carrie Fisher and I became friends on that. Show Roy Williams. We were talking about for the show who I loved. I met you know when I was doing late night. And we became friends from his appearances on the show In in actual terms of one offence of us the one that the always I always give you an example over with Desmond. Tutu. But that's because it's Desmond Tutu. Thank you know. And it's funny that you know he's on a it's funny. I remember sitting Josh. We're not gonNA have a skeleton tonight. I you would hope Mundell July. It's about respect. Say Bishop Tutu. When he was on the show I went to see him before I ended. And he said Who's on the show tonight? And I said you guy from the bachelor that makes me like him even more point I mean but as a as a human being that you know try and say ins yes can of normal leave and I guess So yeah I think. Probably Him Well THAT'S I. I expected that answer but I also wanted to ask the question. Just well I mean th there were others. There's so many of them. But what's weird is that I you know people say to me that time you interviewed number. I have no recollection. Look new recollection of doing. I've said to people. Hey Nice to meet you and I was on your show. Five teams Michael so they. It's when it's recording issues. You have inefficient. That human memory is because `electronic memory records everything of course. Yeah as as those who are about to run for office in the next fifteen. Twenty years are going to find out but the focus instagram account. That once is there is there for a And there's no hiding anymore. No well if you engage right the whole thing. Is You have to participate in this for it to Mar One of the great gifts I think of of social media is that it's not compulsory Just don't have to turn it off. Yeah and it's like well like you know. movie. He hates to rent right and he said he told me this thing he said. I hate to her and I told my manager said well. If you don't know come see when you do go into her and he said so what you're saying is if I don't go into than when I don't go into future see me. I think social media is a bit like no one old. No one will see your stuff. I don't fucking care right fine It's I think you can give it too much power and I've said I've done that But it's human. It's human to want to respond. It's human to have a reaction but it's nice when it can just be used as the tool that it is. I don't I don't engage with the to actually For about a year. Maybe two years I. I wasn't onto a tall and then two days ago I said Tomasz. Who's a guy the guy I work with? I said let me know the password. I'm going to tweet some things and I went on. I tweeted a picture of the Sun. Rise IN LA ADVICE SPELT. Good morning wrong and everybody went. I was like fuck you guys on it today but I will be on it tomorrow. I think I think I'll probably a couple of days every few years. It'll be okay. You'RE GONNA parcel it out. Yeah a little bit also. I don't think he's kind of natural to be on the much. Well no but I mean if a lot of people with fertile comic minds nationally Humorous Find that it's their outlet now. Well here's what I would say. I don't want to blow my own trumpet. I think I've got a fairly decent fair trial comic mind. Thanks but that was a real twitter bar. I also Experienced in this game. Yes And I've worked with really eat in all honesty. Peerless sally who taught me that? Is it really worth that joke? Like is a great job. A great joke but people go crazy is a no joke is ever worth one. That's also what's Nice about being around actual people as you could tell a joke with actual people and they can see that as a joke. Exactly and that's I mean I would if you heard a safe you if anybody heard me and my parents at home because we're just ridiculous absolutely ridiculous but it's the kind of thing that it's like but that's because it's safe. Ali Wong says the great thing about as you've talking about getting married and she she described my sore in Montreal is so good as you said you know. My Marion getting married to someone. Is that finding the right person? You can stay home and be racist with understood understood completely. It's it's good to know that you have a novel in progress. Yeah Yeah you moving. Slowly you mentioned is a. You're not going to discuss it directing into moving back on that horse. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA put myself in that movie. Those okay okay. So you're following the Clint Eastwood route. Yes that's right. Yeah I as as I get wrinkly earn wrinkly myself in the movie. You still played you still performing band. Noel I I still play. They'll drum kits and I play them by. I don't inflict that on. I hope you know your kids with it. You get to turn that around. I do instead of saying to your son's turn it down you good of a as 'cause both my boys are very smart but I'm a pretty good fucking drummer. I didn't mess with them. I like come on and then I'll go and I suppose that's okay. I'm GonNa ask you this earlier but so this is a not not in any way. Linear chronological the bastards from Hell. I'd love to take credit for that. I joined the band that had just changed their name from the Boston Herald and then they changed the name to the Dream Boys result. There's a one eighty. Yeah well I think the the effective going for the time was Was kind of HP lovecraft union tape dream on became the name of an erotic. Dance Troupe. Chippendales too so happy. You know it happens more often than you and your bandmate was Peter. Cappelli was P P P P oh peer stuff that was I was the drummer and has banned all my yeah most people. I would guess now from his tenure doctor who but the doctor on doctor who that's what you mean but but anyone who's seen the thick of it and it was not a popular show here in the state right but it wants you see him play that character that he's a pretty decent. I als- frayed these nectar. He just astonished. He's alright so powerfully. Funny do you remember them in the local hero? No I don't. I'm about to revisit that because it came out on criterion right. Well I don't even know what that is the Local hero was when we were in the band together. You're left by. The band broke up because peer went. Here he plays. I think the character's name is Jimmy Olsen in the movie he's Great. It's a great move. A wonderful yeah. I haven't seen it in many many years. It's good phone. That's by Bill Forsyth. Yeah Yeah Yeah No untalented man either. No no yeah bastard but not from hell no no. I don't think so no. I think he's from local woman. You're not at all no beautiful break. It's been such a pleasure to have you here lovely. Enhance the nicest parts of my day. Well Yeah one of the nicest. One is overall pick up. Who's right anything's possible? I like your optimism. Sir No thank you. So if people were to a dancer in some fashion they do so physically in life you mean on the twitter and supplement Maintain a website which always like for people to see. What your I I. At craigie Farag is the the hand launch into a and then other than that I think links there and stuff like that and occasionally go on and actually you can tell when it's me Tweeden because the guy who normally runs it. Tomas. Who's my tour manager and my friend and Kinda run stuff like that tomatoes from the Czech Republic when he tweets. It's very different tweet. He does in English but special. So you do watch it. 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PC Perspective Podcast 521 - 11/08/18

PC Perspective Podcast

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PC Perspective Podcast 521 - 11/08/18

"This episode of the PC perspective podcast is brought to you by casper asleep brand that continues to revolutionize it's line of products to create exceptionally comfortable sleep experience one night at a time. Get fifty dollars off select mattresses by visiting casper dot com slash PC per and using promo code PC per at checkout. Hey, folks before we get started tonight. Just a quick message. We know there's been a lot of changes, we know that some new faces some different roles, and we appreciate your feedback. We hope you keep giving it to us. So that we can improve and part of that feedback. I received last week, and it was genuinely well-intentioned feedback was that. I'm no fun. Just. It's like, it's like NPR, computer talk. And I appreciate that. And I'm going to try. I can't promise anything I'm really gonna try. But in that spirit. Respective podcasts. So fuck. November seven twenty. Was not prepared for that. At the genuine reaction. 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Keyboard for months to. We got compressed air and vacuum cleaners chat with saying L. No, it's just confetti. Don't be fooled. There's. There's some glistening off of gems forehead is well I noticed. He's Shani like a vampire, but joining us this week. Of course, Sebastian peak one of our reviewers, and he's got a couple reviews for us. So the first step is some new all in one coolers from corsair. That's right. And not too long ago. I did the H one hundred pro I believe it was review which was kind of the new design for corsairs coolers after just some incremental improvements for the last few years a little bit of a different design for the radiator itself. Kind of a different aesthetic, but some different fans revised mounting hardware or sees all now support AM for out of the box. This one is a little bit different still. And this is the H one hundred or one fifteen I platinum platinum I am assuming is because this is the extra special deluxe version, which not only has our GP lighting effects on the pump assembly. But also the fans the M L pro RGB one hundred and forty millimeter WM fans, which. I'm trying to remember the actual bearing type these used because somehow I missed that on these specifications, but they're very very very quiet fans. And they also have multi zone LED lighting built into them. So if you notice from the pictures, or I guess there's one picture I took of them in action towards the bottom of a review there. Each of the fans has four different lights, which can shine different colors or give given time. I left it on the defaults spiral rainbow effect. But anyhow, the the takeaway for this cooler was the revised hardware feels nicer. It's a little bit stronger gone is the plastic back plate. If you're using an Intel like eleven fifty five five x whatever socket your act you actually metal back plate. Now, all of the hardware filters a little bit better. And this thing is extremely quiet. The the benchmarks Iran with my standard test bench. They use for enclosure testing and coolers here is an I seven seventy seven hundred K, which is an extremely hot processor in mine. I don't know if it samples Pacific or what? But mind has always been toasty. So it's a very good tests of coolers, even it's at without over clocking. Every teen Li I get warmer temps with enclosure testing for my CPA than I do from the GP that I use and temperatures were were fine. Sweet sweet feedback coming back in in in your your setup or or do you have crickets chirping in the background? Don't you mind? I mean, I like crickets. It's very relaxing is actually my squeaking whatever the part is that rotates on my furnace which apparently running right now. Fan. You got some poor servants replace that families. One of those course ones. Just jamming everybody needs an our GP furnace. I need a magnetic levitation bearing like these corsair fans have in my furnace. Is is the noise too distracting. Should I wait it out? Now, just just keep going. I could just walk over there and hit the switch or pull the fuse out. That's not what you're talking about. Cooler performance. Now, I compared it briefly just against the H one hundred I pro- that I had reviewed and actually the numbers were not that impressive compared to the its smaller counterpart. But what I determined during the testing was that they they seem to be favoring silence. Over performance by these by their default, presets, you can customize everything I just ran with three of the default presets also as a fan Louis fan. Lewis Moga did not benchmark with that. It's fan lose only at idle, essentially. So the the biggest if you're looking at the charts the biggest gap, you're going to see is when you go up to the extreme preset, which is where you really get into like the full capabilities of these coolers. And so with the pump running on full and the fans actually able to hit their maximum rpm 's this thing was five decibels quieter than the H one hundred. I. So the highest I got was still just under forty decibels at full load all cores for an extended run. So this is a very very, quiet cooler. It's it's. It's not as quiet as a giant Tower Air cooler can be but as far as look good clears go when you have to factor in the pump noise and the fan noise, and I measure equidistant between the two of them on our open test pension. It was still only hitting thirty nine point four decibels. So very very very quiet in the end, though, I had to I mean, the the the the LED's the effects are cool if you're into that sort of thing and a lot of people have kind of RGB fatigue this point. But it's there, and that makes it a more premium part and without the the new fans just like plain fans, this would probably be a little bit more affordable. But as it ships, it has a one sixty nine ninety nine MS RPG, which is steep. So my take. There's something here. We're overlooking. If you can scroll back up. Yes, then down. There. Stop you your graffiti is still on point. Oh, absolutely. Thank you. Josh. Thanks. Josh to do welcome. It's embarrassing. I mean that composition the the Boca the the focus. It's it's just I mean. I mean, you could see. See the RT blocked just sitting behind it, you know, like anxiously like like a a lover in the distance anxiously awaiting the return of of the open arms and gyms. I don't know where your big Popper with this. Gosh. Dwarf arose down at some point the judge. The furnace noise started so about now. No, I'm proud of that shot. Josh, I'm glad you brought it up with talk about it. I'm using my Nikon forty millimeter micro lens on my the fifty one hundred camera. Still see the fins the cooling fins behind the nicely blurred Flint fan blades. It's just a fast. Jeter speed Josh and a wide open aperture just to bring in the light to enhance that natural Boca effect. Are we having start putting subtitles on our pictures for all the camera settings? Hand over listen, I'm just baffled. Josh isn't going all double rainbow on that fan pictures. So Sebastian the the software was that easy to configure. Yeah. And actually, I'm glad you asked that question, Jim because corsairs using IQ software for everything. Now that at one point I think was just an optional thing with certain products. Now, it's everything. So you chose up in the dashboard you click on it. You can adjust all of your presets as far as performance very quickly. And then once you have that tuned, you can go in and change, the colors, your heart's content. I left it at faults, but I've scrolled through and I tried it a few different patterns, and this is actually basically the same package as far as the fans and the color options that I saw with their most recent Cristal series case, the two eighty axe to getting essentially the same fans as the two eighty x but with higher static pressure and all of those associated. Customizable, color effects. So this'll be a great choice to add to a case like that to eighty x. And if you groom for two hundred and eighty millimeter all in one liquid cooler on your thinking of going the liquid cooler route this is the quietest one that I have personally tested. But you do need space for a two eighty and one sixty nine is expensive. So you're going to have to want those RGB effects because otherwise they certainly have options available from the previous. Jan there are a lot less expensive that do not have RTP fans can can you school back up to that picture? I have one more comment to make. Please. This picture. Okay. Yes. Yes. Sebastian. But you. Are the rods may onshore p- of PC hardware? The the PU. Have you never been able was talking over you. I'm sorry. Josh, Robert Mapplethorpe of hardware. I still don't know who that is which I she's oh. Just just not smile. Okay. Never mind. All right. Well, that's. All right. Well, that's I guess I'm aging myself. Yeah. Frustration with the extra cables. Yoji abuse on the the header there. I mean, there's significantly more cabling than normal there is and I have used a couple of types of own ones lately. So I didn't even think about it. But you do have like four cables coming off of the fans instead of two because there's a separate cable for the P WM fan header an for the RGB lighting. But if you're kind of binding it all up and putting it behind the case of like behind the motherboard back plate. Anyway, it didn't really add any bulk of any significance. Is within cables? All right. Well, so good enough for silver award. It's the corsair H one fifteen I are platinum to an eighty millimeter liquid own one cooler. Thanks, sebastian. Next up. We all your well-known from Ken. This was a pair of products video capture products. Right. Yeah. So actually pick these pick with the week back over the summer, but we finally got our time to work through a couple of software bugs and post the full review. These are the ever media life game are ultra in live gamer four K capture cards, so two different units. Here. There's the live game or four k which is the expressed by four card you see there with the nice nicely Zion shroud on it with a bunch of triangles cut into it. And that's actually pretty good-looking card, and then there's the live gamer old show, which is the USB. See connected external device they're on the bottom. The capabilities of these differ. A bit the pizza express card do four K sixty and more importantly for k sixty with HDR who was the first time. I've seen actual H E R capture on any consumer great capture card. There's. Hi into studio commitment that's thousands of dollars or you know, stuff like that. But this is kind of the first thing targeted at gamers. So you have your issue. My in you have a pass FU will also pass through. It's yard two. So you can have a sort of zero input lag experience. You don't have to game through the capture window which would add a little bit late and see. There's RGB lighting. Of course, they more on the top easily turned off in software if you're not into that. But I mean, it's a subtle effect. And everything has to have our GB these days. The external device will only do four K thirty no H E R. However, it does have a neat trick where it will still pass through HR. So if you have your Xbox One x plugged into this, and then split your PC, you can still a naval HDR to view on your TV. You just won't be able to capture each Yar. Oh, that's so you don't have to downgrade. You're sort of visual experience to capture your game play to stream it or record it. The software component of this is ever. Meet is wreck central. Which I haven't used in a couple of years, but it's actually a pretty nice piece of software. Now, you can do things like obviously record construct twitch you can overly a webcam on top of a video feed. So you can kind of do just if you want to very simple to shot stream, which is you over gameplay. You don't need expert only. LBS only anything like that can just use this include application to do it. Yeah. So I mean, right there we had captured from Xbox One accent and webcam hooked up. Luckily to PC, and I mean, the captures look good. The like the default and coding it uses GP encoding to get to the higher frame rates. The playback looks like but on the stream. Yeah. Thanks you too. But in this case using envy NC with a Gitex ten seventy I think to do the hard runner HIV C H E, six eight two six five and coding how much ever does that add virtually none? If you're watching the video stream, there's some stuttering in this. Can watch the video on the actually to page, and it's good. And if you have a client that sports HCR, you can actually do the H yard capture an issue with them. We ran into a bit of an issue. It's actually an MVP NC issue because emailing everyday back and forth on this where the output at file will be thirty forty by twenty one seventy six so it wouldn't actually conform to thirty or forty by twenty one sixty four K you HD resolution. So if you just upload it straight to YouTube. It would never process for Kayode only top out at ten P over actually each year midday data now, it could've just been art specific test configuration somewhere incompatibility because I mean, ever media has had this work. You should just be able to directly dump your file so YouTube and get processes HCR what I had to do is I had to import into premier. Sort of scale the image up. It was actually capturing the correct amount of pixels us cut had like it back in the day. If you like v dot with direct stream copied, it just kind of change an aspect of the meta data is kind of like that. You're literally getting rid of one scan line. Yeah. Because each one of those impact fours sixteen lines, I think so. I mean, it was just a it's just a weird bug. That's been actually well documented on the video forms with the specific kilter. But if what I read in video doesn't look like they're interested in fixing it. It's been a thing for a while. They were like look this is still within the spec. And if there's a player that can't play it. That's the players fault. Yeah. But I mean, once we got that figured out guidance from your I could export it with saving all the each year attended meta data and upload it to you to fine. The best part about this is the USB adapter is two hundred fifty bucks. Oh, actually, I forgot to mention whether cool things about the life game alter the USB one it uses UV C, so the driverless emulating a webcam standard. So you can just plug it in in any app that has a webcam support will be able to see it. Nice or you can use the still use the adver media software. If you want the additional control you want just like a nice recording apt to us won't be able to change some stuff. So you actually have that flexibility. But you don't need to sell any drivers to use it, which is always a really good thing for video capture hardware, but two hundred fifty bucks. It's a little pricier than the law. There's boxes, but it's the only external boxing that could pass the reach Yar. So if you have any share display, you're going to want something like this, but for fifty bucks more if you have the pizza you slot. You can step up to the life gamer for K get four K sixty capture plus HD are and it's it's a really compelling product. And we looked at the L gotta for capture card. Probably about a year ago and that was forecast sixty. But no HCR. Yeah. For I think, they're gonna bucks. Now. They did add H-share pass through that card through firmware update. But still doesn't record each Yar. So yeah, I mean ever media has a leg up here question from the chances of MAC compatible. I imagine preferring to the external. I believe there's a wreck central for MAC. So probably okay. I haven't tested it. So two hundred ninety nine for the eversion with four K sixty HDR two hundred and fifty for the USB version with just four K thirty mazing how far capture devices have come since we built a whole of this. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. All right. Well, thanks that. Can can you're you're you're have all this stuff here. Remember how much this black magic capture cards ran away. I got them and how bad they help poor kept overheating. They still do. Ducked inside that box it this this fan. This machine has a about a foot long piece of cardboard and he -ducted fan over the capture card. It gets above what seventy six degrees ambient here. It starts dropping inputs the they just go away. Some until you until you bounce the box. Their sport told us a thermal thought was like eighty Fahrenheit. Yeah. It was eighty four eighty no eighty four f. What what kind of chip has that kind of a problem? I. Temperature a-6. Yeah. Need that ice cube cooling, right? Submission. No comment. We got to know review from Chris coke. We've got to steal series gaming mice the rival six fifty which is a wireless mouse and the rival seven ten which is a wired version. Surprisingly as he mentioned in the review. And I was as I was reading this over you think the seven ten better than the six fifty and they do have unique feature sets. But he says, basically, the six fifty's got the more compelling. Compelling features. First of all, it does have the RGB. So that's that's the three in a row from the art to be really compelling. Yeah. Truly, it's a justifiable. Wait it comes in at. I think it was eighty grams and you can add up to thirty two more with adjustable weights. Just to give you that. Right feel. It's got contribute buttons for various mapping. And they they also use a haptic feedback feature which seemed kind of neat where you program a button click, so at one of your dedicated buttons. And then it starts a countdown timer, and that that you can configure and then when that time is up at vibrates. And so if you're playing like a mobile or strategy games, but you've got cool downs. Right. Ach quick item response or any anything where there's going to be a. Time limit that you're going to be aware of you can configure it to trigger a button or configured to that. When you trigger a button, it gets that time timer, and you look down at the mouse to to know that you're whatever it is is ready, but it is limited to one button and just a time based I have to feedback. So that he can't tie it to engage events and things like that. But overall a very good review from from Chris on the steel series. The six fifty the wireless versions one hundred and twenty dollars the rival seven ten is one hundred dollars. And there's a custom software to that comes with it that he says is very easy to use logic program. The the lighting effects on the seven ten there's a little screen. One. Yeah. Put a custom display on there. And he's you can put like an animated gift for you can tie it to compatible games where it will show you your life bar, your ammo counter seems need in my, you know, from my perspective, I'm thinking, why would you down at your mouse to see what your ammo level is your health level? So you know, he mentioned that she was like, it's neat. It's an interesting concept potential use abilities questionable. But something there to to play with. It's just that you have to very low resolution, and you have to stretch it out. And then it displays at the right aspect ratio on the device. So so interesting set of mice. He still says, you know, Logitech is probably got a lock on this market in terms of like the best price to performance for the gaming my series. But he says if you're a steel series fan, and or you just want something different from a Logitech product or somebody else. It's a good one to checkout since the rival six fifty and the rival seven ten steals. Gaming mice. And we've got a another review from Sebastian. It's a case review, which is just as bread and butter, you know, for a minute. I thought you said we've got another patriotic sponsor, and I'm gonna read out out loud. We don't have that. We just switched that over. And I'm not I don't I left my phone over there. Mr. Mr. smokey treats, just gave three dollars. I'm off. I have the PC per one set up on the patriot. Thank you, Mr. smokey treats. So your cat. Now, my cat. She left never mind. She has good taste them. She's smart little. But so especially wants to tell us about this bitch. Bit Phoenix Nova tempered glass case. First thing about the cases, it's very affordable. As cases go these days. This is MS RPM fifty six ninety nine way way way way way way. Hess. Josh late. It does compatible. It's it's got an optical drive. Josh you're stealing my thunder. But you're absolutely right. Oh, it's beautiful. What they'll hence review kind of became was like this is kind of like an old retro style. Case inside of a new case shell you've got some pretty modern looking styling. And it's got of course, the temperate class side panel. This is the Nova t g in the T G. Josh the t g stands for tempered glass. I thought it stood for L. No again to an. Yes, it has it has an external five and a quarter inch bay. But what's interesting is when you open it up. There's actually three bays and there you'll have access to one. Ripping the customer off drama. We need to have access to all three bays Sol's all access. All three bays. Have external access. Time may bottom bay, and I find with it think about I can put both of my Bigfoot drives in there. And. Hard drives. Because when I'm listening to optical media. I want to big Foot's on you ration- as possible. But if you I mean, looking at the interior pictures of this case, you can tell this is a this is a little bit of a retro designed to say the least. And if you look at the back, those are in fact below that one hundred twenty millimeter fan, those are punch out. So, wow, you're not answering slot. Whoa. Which you punch him out. They're gone forever. And it does not come with any. That was my biggest gripe with the case. Well, to be honest with movie punch, any of them, the replaceable or not they're gone forever. I don't think I've seen that on a case in fifteen years. I mean, I've seen a few years and years ago that used that style. But is there are they never cases shipping's of fifty dollars. Tons the sun. In the case is true in the fifty or so cases, I reviewed in the last three and a half or four years. I have only seen it on like two, and they were definitely in this like fifty dollars just finding holing and then slap tempered side panel on it. Like toiling already had for case from the nineties thinking the tooling. Now, the one thing that kind of I I was thinking that it was it was an older interior shell. But the the cages or at least knew the drive cages, you wouldn't have seen the drive cages with those slide in plastic trays lis-, you know, fifteen years ago, let that's a little bit of an upgrade was that an attack who sort of that with the whole polis installs for drives. I think so. Exte- how to pre early to. But it was a great implementation. You remember the antique drive bays that you're like essentially suspended in elastic. Yup. This still. But no, vibration. Yeah. One other. Speaking of speaking of hard, drives it they has the room for it. But for some reason, I it the the cage for the SSD's is almost as big as the one for the hard drives. The only have space for three hard drives. It would have been nice to see like that fourth hard-drive. And maybe only have a couple of ST slots is you can always put him behind the motherboard, especially because this design the rear panel cover panel is boat out significantly by design. It's got a a bowed out section almost as big as the side panels. So there's tons of room for cable mess. There was almost no additional cabling in my bills behind the motherboard tray. But even if you're not careful like this back cover goes on without any problems. So Bill leave you me. I'm I'm not very careful. I'll stick a two-week-old ham sandwich by my case. Just because dampens noise. Smell bad with the heat back there. I mean, you've got you've got away every option. Josh. I mean. Yeah. What? Teenage boys. And I swear that they have they have bought stock in old spice body spray. And so having a little earthy ham sandwich rotting in the back of your computers is is it's a bit of a relief. It is it is wonderful thing. Edgy. Josh. But temps in and noises. Acceptable surprisingly good considering you've got a solid front panel. I mean, it is vented on the sides and the bottom, but and see here. What were the actual numbers the numbers, we're kind of towards the bottom, but they're not outrageous. I mean, you're talking about within a couple of degrees within two to three degrees of the be quiet. Be quiet silent based six one which was another case with like, the the solid front panel and the same kind of venting. So this one did not come with the same level of like a front intake as the be quiet. So you could get it a little bit higher airflow. But it it's fine. There was no significant thermal issues and actually was not bad as far as noise goes. Which is nice when you consider this has that tempered glass side panel. And there's no installation on this thing at all in the medal is is fairly thin. It's not so thin that you can, you know, take the case out of square and your bare hands. It does feel quite solid. But it's a very lightweight case. And I was not expecting noise levels to be anywhere near that bequeathed case. So. Overall because of that. And because of the fact you can actually use an optical drive. If you still wanna use one of those. It's got. That was my takeaway. And it's only fifty five bucks. Like right now, it's on Amazon for about fifty four. It's dropped a couple dollars. So definitely in that price range. I thought it was deserving of the p suitors perspective gold award or dad Diab to send this case back. I unknown unknown. They have not contacted me about a return yet. But you know, what the case review? Keep it. Yeah. No. All right. Well, the so a great great case for optical, drive lovers and budget builders. All right. So thanks for that smashing does seem so festive there. I mean. I'm looking at the Kensington bidding on me every time the cameras I noticed. There was some stuff on your head there. That's okay. We'll do the news. We you have an ad. Oh, but wait. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. So we're going to we've we're going to take a moment here to the thank our sponsor and the Rebecca arch. 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So this is a new tier of Zeon they're using a multi chip package to hit forty eight cores in single processor these are targeted at two socket systems. So we're talking ninety six cores per server, hyper threaded, so many many many core design. So as we've alluded to Intel's kind of. The made a lot of stink about epic being glued together. So. Package. Definitely during the press briefing. They were getting some questions glitter in my I if that's that's not glitter. Yeah. Go ahead. And tells response to their comments is that they weren't inherently saying that multi chip multi multi chip designs for bad. They're saying that the way they were being implemented resulted in performance inconsistencies and that cascade lake AP improves upon this by using Intel's UPI, which is a successor to Kyosai for that would say traditionally us for multi Pugh communication in a multi socket system for both using UPI for both died chip to chip within a single package as well as a two sockets. So it's kind of a known interface that performs well that doesn't have some of the some of the same downfalls as Infinity fabric in theory in theory. I mean, that's kind of all the detail that gave about it. They gave some numbers comparing to epic inland pack and one other benchmark but stream try it yet can kind of take it with a grain of salt until we see some actual independent performance numbers from this stuff. But it's certainly an answer to the thirty two core. And as we'll talk about the sixty four core epic that was announced earlier this week. Josh your thoughts on this. Well, you know, I'm thinking you'd think that they'd have cue PI, and then move up one other letter and have RPI, but then the basketball people would be really pissed off through. Yeah. You know, it's it's. I'm not. I'm not saying that large monolithic dies are dead. But if they wanna keep margins up there with the kind of competition that we're going to be seeing in the next year large monolithic dies are going to be hard to sell at the price points that people want to see margins add, especially namely at until on so going with a multi chip module is is it's pretty obvious because you know, Intel us had issues with their ten nanometer process. I mean, they've they've kind of had to switch around things with their fourteen nanometer, plus plus plus to make things go faster, but they're sacrificing some density as well and everything really is a trade off. I mean, if you want more performance, you want more cores. You're gonna have to make trade offs in your design with the tools that we currently have. And that's namely process. Technology edit as slowdown. Moore's law is. It's not quite dead. But it's it's kind of dead. I mean, we're still getting some density gains. But in terms of actual process transistor switching performance, we've kind of come to a standstill. I mean, twenty nanometers stuff thirty two nanometer stuff. We were hidden around the three and a half four gigs space twenty two fin fed. It kinda went up in the base clock. But how far you could push. It actually went down and the same thing with fourteen animator. And now where we're looking at seven and ten nanometer stuff from these guys and they've got to rethink how they're actually going to do this. And it seems like smaller chips in in in multi chip packages will allow them to continue to increase performance, especially how many threads that they are. Throwing it any kind of problem while now. Not going past four hundred watts TDP. Now, I think this is is this one that they're talking about is this the three hundred and fifty watt taint being I don't think we have a number on that that was was quoting that then this forty eight core part was possibly three hundred fifty one TDP, and it looks like it might not actually have hyper threading. Enabled. Yeah. Really not a whole lot of detail on this. Fortune. They're going to talk more about cascade lake and cascade like a P at supercomputing next week. So there should be a lot more details about this. Wasn't there a bunch? It's almost like they wanted to get out before certain announcement this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So can so Josh touched on you touched on the lack of hyper threading or possible lack of hyper threading Ken did. But we'll go ahead on. So now, we're moving into these multi chip modules and were spreading things out, and how many explicit we up to now regarding hyper threading, they got three big ones. I think four with port smash. I mean, there's there's there's, you know, the speculative execution speculative reads, and hyper threading, not so much. It's it's more to do with, you know, cash lines being accessed by a non secure thread that you know, you can do it speculatively, but you can't do it when you actually need to actually access the data. And so that's that's kind of the the whole spectrum thing about this morning. I'm relations has lower administrative privileges. Than than, you know, actually, accessing data. And so that's how they got around a lot of that stuff. But in terms of hyper threading, it's not as big of a security risk. It's just all that is is throwing data at at the execution units that are out of sync with another thread, an excellent about the ADHD store those. But but they just they can't read that data when it's in the pipeline versus when they're. Doing, you know speed look ups in cash where they can so. Yeah, hyper threatening not as big obscurity threat. I think what hyper threading does more than anything is. You're pushing up the TD peas because you're utilizing more of those parts more of the CPU at at at a higher level than you would if it was just a single thread instead of hypoth- reading, and so they're looking at so dense chips that if you enable hyper threading, I mean, you're you're TDP's just going to go through the roof because they're just being used so much, and you kind of look at what arm is doing. I mean, they're not even looking at at hyper threading, they're looking at wider course, you know, they they have for begs for Smalls, and we can handle a threat, and if the OS is really really efficient it can do a lot of the background stuff on these low power cores while the. High-performance stuff needs to be using these big courts, and until is not really at that point with their monolithic cores. So it's it's an interesting balance and disabling hypoth- reading you are in in theory. If you've got a forty eight wide chip, and you can hyper thread that. Okay. Again, this is theory that's not actually talking about a product. But if you've got a server, and you've got forty eight threads available to it. Would it really be a good idea to jump that up to eighty four in many workloads because you still got memory issues? You've got you've got I o issues. How much is too much? And I think this is the point where Intel is kind of look at it and saying, okay, where's a workload was TDP's? How complex we need to make things. And it's a big question because we're not going any faster in terms of clock speed, but we are going. Really wide and were starting to eat a lot of power. So. What do you do from here? So I mean, actually, the Chad is kind of pointing this out them. This is an interesting thing. Alexa. When that light to go off. Uh-huh. Anyways. So I was going to say this is a sensually taking their four socket design in shrinking it to smaller form factor. These in the same link to connect the two chips on one substrate. They have told channel memory like it. It's essentially a four socket system. That will be a smaller to second form factor, which I mean has its benefits, but it's not anything groundbreaking like you'll be able to chief probably greater density in data center. But it's not going to be some weird new level performance. We've never seen before. So that's about. Well, we'll have more to talk about on that shortly. I'm sure and we probably should have rearranged. So that the San one was right after, but okay, we'll get to that in a moment because I need to break. Okay. Okay. Well, well, just takes a break. Let's talk about another problem here, which is a pretty serious issue with SSD from. We're encryption on tells about this. Jeremy? Yeah. So that that handy little baked in firmware encryption that you're buying your SSD's. Actually exists completely and solely on that SSD and doesn't actually take your own user passwords or the past you set up with say bit locker and incorporate it into the encryption that means every single thing on that disk, and there's what a few of them, especially crucial in Samsung. It's a single key. And so if you pop drive out plug into the debugged ports, you can very quickly convince it to just accept anything as valid unencrypted code and unencrypted your stuff, this is utterly and completely brilliant. So there were several methods there this or the Jeremy's talking about the tag thing. But going through the paper, there's a v- a lot of enlightening little tidbits in there. They were using J tag just to like sort of probe, and, you know, find other exploits. But some of these exploits were you don't even need and turn access to the us d. Are you talking about the one where it's seeds value on a register at first boot? But the register wasn't readable at first boot. So it sets to knol. Yeah. Yeah. So then something like that. There were other ones there were other ones where it's like. Okay. Well, this one drive has a vendor specific command that's undocumented. But we figured it out. Because we, you know, dump the drive's firmware, and like, so if you issue this very unique command with this unique, you know, they basically just try to read from a sector that's not on desk. Like, that's one example of it. Right. But you send it a command that is non-standard. And it just opens up another set of commands and one of them might just be to dump the entire cryptographic table of the drive. You know, just like, here's Sears all the keys, basically, you know, things like that. Right. So it's just it's a a matter of. A combination of not being completely secure with a security through obscurity, right? Like just trying to do those things. And oh, yeah. Will you know, nobody will ever figure this out and locker also lying to you. Because unless you specifically go deep into the settings to turn on software encryption it claims. It software encrypted, but it's not actually it's just going off with the hardware. Right. And that's the other problem is Microsoft's implementation of if you're using a bit locker on drives. Right. And it sees that the drive supports OPEL then. Oh, fine that drives supports. I'll just to- totally entrust in that drives ability to be secure, which honestly should should it should understand the assumption. You know, and that does and in its defense the whole point of that is so that if especially if you're on a mobile system, for many cases, SSD's will pass all incoming. Outgoing data through some form of crypto engine. Anyway, whether or not you have password set, just usually it has its own, you know, preset key or whatever. But the engine is. Usually there, it's an hardware. It's basically zero overhead and you wouldn't want if that was there, and it was secure then you wouldn't necessarily want bit locker to start using the, you know, CPU heavy crypto and try to pass all disk, I o through the CPU because even in even an accelerated form that is more power consumption. Just more overhead on on the host, see. But I would argue the other way having the encryption hardware encryption keys bound physically to the device. Is just right off the crank seems bad. I agree with you. Ways to do it the thing here. Right. That OPEL shouldn't just be a set of specifications from the trusted computing group. It should be a certification process yet. Right. Where someone is actually looking at this firmware. Yes. Or or baby they have a open source OPEL implementation that people can bet that is an example of imitation that then people like like crucial and Samsung and until and everybody can go implement. Yeah. Just being a black box. Nobody apparently ever checks up on. Now. I I know they only mentioned crucial and Samsung hair adventure, guess that. Probably other companies are vulnerable. They might have the either either other companies were much harder to crack. I mean just of gave up or they only got this far. And we're just like holy crap. Look at all the nuggets of information we have here. This is probably enough for a paper as it is because that papers pretty lengthy and goes into a bunch of different methods that you know, what you different phone our abilities. And then there are plenty of plenty of forks on the road as you're walking through that paper. They were just like this could also be possible. But we just didn't like it that was just too exhausted for this paper. But there were plenty of other avenues where it could have been even worse. We just don't know because they didn't go down that road. But presumably, you know, based on what you see and how vulnerable some of these things are and how easily they were. For vulnerable, those other avenues, they didn't pursue would probably also be fruitful as just my guess. Yeah. Yeah. But Ken, totally right. You you really need a certification with like source code review and firmware review. For it to be completely trusted for any kind of a, you know security thing the most troubling of those in that list is the t three and the t five from Samsung, which are just external drives because that's the thing where you really are worried about. You know, it's a way more likely people will have encryption enabled on people. Five left it on train. Oh boy. Yeah. So I mean, obviously, this is this is disaster for an uprise large customers. Love you know that for. Yup. For either trusted simply encryption on the drive or in trusted bit locker deaf. Right. If you go four software encryption that or you tweak with Walkerton specifically avoid detecting from where encryption celebration on a drive. You're good. You're good. Okay. Because you can put it on top of it. So that you can encrypt veal the firmware and software air on top of it. Okay. Out idea. Bill locker really should just have like some sort of a trust. No one option. Shift where it just, you know, don't pay any attention to OPEL right and Germany's talking about a tweak. I don't know by Nova another was a tweak, but presumably they're always screw on empower. Shall we figured it out? Okay. Disable bit locker because it's annoying. Hopefully plight of a group policy is going to be a lot of shame fully that need that change. Now. Yup. All right bit locker on encryption always goes. Well, so there are there are options to mitigate the damage or protect yourself until some some can be figured out here. Trust. No on of course. Yup. Of next up. We got some some new compute cards from AMD. They're pretty pretty interesting. Looking the AMD radio on instinct is it pressed m I six years. Okay. So the sixty and the I fifty exhilarated cards these are seven nanometer seven nanometer Vegas-based cards at Joshua to a couple of weeks ago on the show that these are some of the seventy nine big parts heading into enterprise, and and, you know, high end workstations, so what do you got for us here on on this one, Jeremy? Well, according to Amdi specs and the tests that they got someone to do that sixty is currently the fastest PCI HPC card on the planet. Edging out the test will be one hundred that's what they claimed that it was slightly faster. Then they're claiming seven point four teraflops at f p sixty four and the tests will be one hundred does seven even. Take this with a grain of salt. But of course, because no one's actually got them hands on these cards to test. But it will be interesting to see because regardless it is an impressive amount of double precision performance. It also introduces PC I express four point. Oh, which before you get really excited is not going to help you and your gaming 'cause it's that's not really the bottleneck. But if you're in too, deep, learning and development and stuff, this is actually pretty huge. And it's part of how it's only able to do this. But they can set it up into fancy little. Hives? So the idea with this is that because they're us utilizing Amdi new Infinity fabric to the GP us, and as you see in the picture there. There's a four of them all squished together, you can actually set up to hives each having H E P servers in them with the help of their new rock him to point -o software, which other people than I know a bit more about, but it's just a huge jump compared to what I am dis. Previously offered on their sort of high end deep learning and just you know productivity carts. So it's going to be really interesting to see what benchmarks look like the beginning of next year when they're extorting to expect to arrive on scene AMD's big, you know, one of the big things they've always had in their favor compared to Intel and videos price advantage. Do we have any information on how these will compare price wise to his options? I did not see anything. I don't know. If there were rumors. I didn't spot any. Okay. Is it the type of products, you don't generally get pricing for? Yeah. But as if if you have to ask what the price is you can't afford it. Josh you're watching the keynote texture was yesterday that I couldn't quite catch it they mentioned Infinity link in the context of epic. So can you use Infinity or Sar infant any fabric infidel, brick and fitting fabric instead of express on an epic platform? Okay. We don't know a whole lot of the details here Infinity fabric. I think is not PCI express. But it's kind of similar so if you look at like the arm c-6 CIX, that's based on PC I express except that they use to protocols on top of that to do things like. You know coherency in in terms of cash and. Just kind of improve communication not just using a regular guy, you know, link it. I mean, it's it's it's a protocol over PCIE, but it's not BCI so gender stand. It's yeah. So Infinity fabric is is different though. It's not PCI based. And it's as far as I know it's not hyper transport based either because there were some inefficiencies and bad things with hyper transport as well. But I think this is based on the c Micra stuff. But in fifty never has been designed in not just zen. But in the original Vega part, but it was not really fully utilized in Vega. Except course. With the zen two thousand series AP us. Yeah. So that actually had AMI Vegas had Infinity fabric for you know, when it was designed from the ground up. And so we're now seeing this now in theory, you can attach to a substrate a bunch of zen cores, and then have a Vegas stuck in there, and it can all communicate through Infinity fabric. I mean, it's it's obviously not as easy as you know, plug it in Legos, but. It's it's it's the same thing. I mean, it's using that same kind of protocol to communicate between chips at a high bandwidth low latency type interconnect. And so yeah. In theory, you can you can have a substrate where you have a couple of zen two cores. And then the I o core. And then some Vega chips in there, and you can have this really high tariff flop shipped. That's socketed wasn't that they do that. I don't know. But the new instincts in the Vegas seven nanometers is it's a big jump from their previous Bronx because they're doubling HP 'em too bad with. They've also got double the amount of H B M two. And it says it's a significant redesign but not without. Redesigning the entire house. I mean, it's just just they use a lot of the basics. They've added to and it's a better part. But I think the biggest problem that AMD has is software and developer input because Invidia has an amazing deverell group, and especially with Khuda and universities and teaching who are going into the workforce how to use Khuda in their university and in their classrooms, and that translates to the next generation of workers going into companies saying, hey, we can get better efficiency, we can really hammer on performance. We can we can do things that our competitors are not because I have these basic skill sets. I learned college based on Khuda, and that's going to translate into actual money for the company. That I'm working for. And that's that's what AMD is fighting against. And it's it's a big uphill battle. Because video was really really quite clever in how they Khuda and especially him into universities and gave them a lot of money because universities like money. Yeah. No. They have been making some road, the some inroads inroads. They go English have and as Jeremy Lewis to they nnounced rock them two point zero rock, and being there Kudo quivalent, essentially, they're sort of GP, you acceleration S T K, and they announced it's going to be mainstream villainous Colonel which is big because right now sitting up Rochim Rackham, it's not difficult. But it's not great. It's another step. You have to do. So if you just have an ADP plunked in start running code on it it pretty good. Pretty good step. They they also were working. With like, tensor flow, and that's I've been paying. I've been investing a little around with the tensor flow. They have an upstream d- port that is essentially open sale for ten five which is huge that had that didn't exist six months ago. Really? So no. Times are changing and for. Thing because we need more competition in this marketplace. Oh, yeah. Well, stay on the AMD and competition theme AMD Navan wanna stay on the fame. Well, we're there. They had a big event this week yesterday. Was it losing track of time? They had a big event where they talked about their new epoch Rome series processors. We've got Josh you cover that for us. But we don't have anything real Tim actually posted selling. Yeah. It's an it's an it's not just posted out. Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry. Once I think with Josh. And I were kind of keeping up with event yesterday as we're going on. Yeah. We're we're live tweeting it which is not nearly as good as actually writing a stink in article. People are saying anyway CPU. That's awesome. That's one hundred twenty eight threads sixty four cores. Each of those little chip Litz is to CC X's send to technology. It's almost like they they doubled. The you know, how many that can fit within a given amount of space. Yes. They've they've the seven nanometer process is kind of impressive in terms of density. But we don't know enough about this yet to kind of start guessing about. What they've actually included in these send Duke or so. Yeah. That does. In the middle is is the DDR for controllers. A lot of express and Infinity fabric. So if you think of each of those individual cores being able to communicate not with just themselves, both mental chip, I mean, the amount of pads that substrate is is going to be really really sticking impressive. And we don't know how many express lanes are coming off this. We do know it's it's eight memory controllers. And so that's a lot of pens and pads as well, it's just it's it's kind of an impressive product. And and the thing is that in the most part, it's a fourteen nanometer I o and so not only does it have PCIE and memory controllers and Infinity fabric. But I'm kind of wondering if it doesn't have some l four cache I large amount of mental for cash at gets better than that. Because each of those a stink in. You know, CPU cores with to CC axes apiece. There's going to be a lot of memory access, and if you throw a big chunk of L foreign there it's going to solve a lot of bandwith and lane see problems right off the bat. So until we find out more about this. It's there's a lot that we could talk about it. It's a big physical chip, right? As big as the current thread river, which as you know, is massive stand. What takes a lot of area cash. Did that? And so I mean, this has like what two hundred fifty six megs of l three cache that we know of well, and they're not even telling us if there's any L four in there. And if I'm a betting man, and I'm not, particularly, but I think that there is going to be L four, and they're just because that's going to improve efficiency going to anelle four cash, even though it is not as efficient as going to L three when you start doing, you know, talking about snooping, and and cash coherency and main memory accesses, you're going to gain a lot of performance if you got L for in that big old ship in the middle. And if you think of how much space member controllers and PCA controllers, and that stuff takes it's not very much. So why is that chip so big now, it's it's really it seems like are just really good use of resources, right? So they're they're pushing the seven hundred meter no TSN TMC seven nine. Meter note on the on the course on the part, they need to and then relying on more tried and true, fourteen nanometer wafers, they can get much cheaper at this point for the less important less critical stuff that wouldn't really see an advantage being an on a seven nanometer note. This is correct. And I mean each of those zen two choruses is tiny. I made like seventy three to seventy five millimeter square while which is that's what less than half of what? You know, fourteen nanometer twelve nanometer zen sin, plus through whatever you wanna call. It core is. We do have other questions are these chips you're going to see in desktop zen two processors. I don't think. So I think that they probably stripped out of that stuff out a lot of the I o memory controllers things like that and have dedicated probably just Infinity fabric PCIE lanes. Yeah. And that's that's it. I mean, it's it's very very focused. So I because they're releasing these relatively quickly. I mean like the first of the year, but we're not going to see desktops and two parts until Hugh. Three in the first half twenty nine hundred. So I I'm wondering if they are not in fact, two totally different ships one with more. I o capabilities that, you know, the reflects back on the the original Zan, which has SATA controllers and memory controllers. And all that. I mean, why if you're if you really pushing into the epic world, why would you want include on that on every guy all that functionality, which you're not gonna use? Because you've got this big. I o chip down middle. That's handling all that. Yeah. So what they did earlier in the day, they showed I mean, it was more of an artistic thing. Right. Where they had the had the to the to sort of CPU courtships. And then the I o control in the middle. So I can see that being more of a consumer configuration. We have I guess for CCA Xs total, it makes sense. I mean, if they're going to go through all this work to go. Threw it re engineer Reid architect this whole system from the existing architecture which pretty much was same kit. Just pile more of them on there. I mean it works. It works fine. So the all this and they moved to this chip architecture. They already have existing fourteen meter stuff works fine. The cache coherency all that stuff's pretty well proven out, and they moved to a chip design, and they lead with the epoch the room. But if they already invest all this time into it. Why not have a single chip lit or to chip lit variant with a reduced. I o controller but keep the same architecture. Had. That's hail Billy from the the low end single chip lit all the way up to the. I mean, how many are on there? There's eight well that's supposed to be one of the bandages of the offending fabric in the first place. Right. Yeah. You you're mesh your underlying mesh is there. And that's well prove. Win. And it's seems to be pretty well proven to be scalable. So why not stick to it? How many chips to you actually want to design if you're Amdi? I mean, obviously that is the lowest number possible. So you do I owe you do a chip lit. And then you do the desktop which. Then you modern to the Hugh. You're talking about. So I mean, where does that balance in design resources that you have as an empty and how much money you can throw the problem? What is the perfect number of parts for each generation than you can really introduce at the same time being able to potentially overcome any advantages that that Intel will throw at you because they've got better manufacturing in theory more design capabilities and they wanna use probably bigger monolithic chips because that's kind of Intel. I mean, what's what where's the balance point here? And I think we're going to find that out obviously in the next eight months, but I just think that Amdi is betting a lot of money on being really really really competitive in the data center because that's an area that is still going to grow. And it's an area that is worth a lot of money. And if they think that they can get with a more specialized design with this big I o chip in the middle and be able to offer an amazing amount threads really good yields. I mean, really good yields. Because each of those chips is is really small so yields and bins are probably going to be really really good those chips versus one large seven hundred millimeter square die. And I think that they're going about this in a really clever way. But we're going to have to see if the market reacts to them as well as they're hoping to. I mean, I think. I think they're going to have some success here. And they're they're they're leveraging a better process technology than what Intel can do until the end of twenty nineteen. So they have a real window of opportunity to do so really need things. And I think they're going about it in a really clever way. And I think that they're going to make some some good money, and they're gonna make some inroads. But it's going to be that past twenty nineteen area. That is going to be the question. I think Intel's is gonna take a while to to kind of react to what am DA has been showing off and. I don't know. It's a big company. They've got a lot of money. They can they can if they choose to. They can. They can turn on a dime. I mean, we look at the Pentium four to Conroe. I mean, they just said, okay. We're going to you know, Tejas. Okay. Screw taos. He's isreaeli. Guys, have got really something amazing here going there and. Years. Yeah. Time when they could really, you know, take advantage of of what they did in terms of design until. Until until struck back with the core to. Twenty nine hundred is going to be a busy here. It is twenty eight teams and busier Pru. Well, I can't wait for the ashes of the singularity benchmark on that ship. All right, les item up. We got a fifteen new benchmark. I guess this is the biggest consumer Dr Allen's not a consumer drive. Just the biggest like drive. You can go buy at a store. That's not you're either. You can't even buy really cause. So this is going to be it's singled magnetic right recording today. Marquette an and it's an enterprise drive. But this is going to be fifteen terabytes a skit that fifteen terabytes seventy two hundred rpm it's a ultra star. It's now Western Digital ultra star. Yeah. That's the transformation is complete now. D c h c six twenty. So they now make that drive and fifteen terabytes. There is a if you don't want shingle magnetic recording you have to drop to twelve terabytes. So it's about like twenty five percent gain that they get now from going SM are the size of that buffer. Pretty big buffer half. The gig. Now, not even to a gig. Yeah. I know I know. So realize that you have this is a now host managed. I some are. So it's they're not even they're just moved away from the whole the drive will try to behave adequately. If you gave it just a standard workload and try to make it SM are no now, it's just you have to write to this thing. Sequentially in a specific way. What the specific understanding of how your application is coded. That's doing the writing to these drives. So if you want to do any kind of a random workload a random right to one of these it has to be somehow packaged in some form where the drive sees it sequentially. So that it can just continue with the specific shingle, right? That it's doing is that supported out of the box by the or is that drivers. No, it's it's the guys that are using drives like these have coded their own back ends that are doing the writing to these drugs. So they're not they're not even using like raid specific controllers? They're just using J Bod controllers just get all the drives connected to the system. The software layer that whoever the company has has developed at Facebook, or, you know, Facebook, Google, whoever they're going to set something up that's going to handle all of the redundancy and writing to bolt multiple disks or across multiple arrays, or you know, spaces or whatever. And also, they just need to do it in a way, that's sequential. So that these drives can behave properly when they're doing the rights because as it turns out, you can you can read from a narrow track than what you can right. Which is what the gives these drives this advantage. They're just like, well, if we just scoot the head over a half or three quarters of a track worth as opposed to going over one full track worth with enough gap between them for regular, you know, to not overwrite the the adjacent tracks. You know, as it turns out, if you just decide to overlap them as you're writing them when you come back and read you can still read from the slimmer tracks the of created with that previous right? So it's just kind of how that stuff works. We're still not to the point. Jeremy wrote this right? Yes. Yeah. Tim tell that was Tim so Thames longing for the upcoming days of mamber and a hammer and stuff. Like that. Because this is going to be one of the last summer drives that we're going to be seeing. So I don't know really how that's going to happen because even with mamber, you can only do say, SM or note Ribes, I I'm gonna say Ken. Josh is going on record. Just gonna Corrigan hard-drive AMS AS Amar. It's just the hard drive on a table in front of the microphone just seeking. Right. And then you could. Actually, I need to go through the old box hard drives. Now when you Voss after AS, let's edit this out of the podcast. To somebody's gonna do it. Okay. Hundred years. But at some point unpredictable during that recording. We'll be a sudden hammer and now and now I'm going to do a D frag into this one. After teeth. All right anyway. So yeah. When those things come they're not necessarily going to just all of a sudden, we don't need shingle d-, you'll you can still stand to get that sort of a benefit from shingle because you can you'll still be able to read a narrower track than you can right. It's just that what something like member you'll be able to write to a much narrower attrac-, but some of the hurdles they're dealing with on that like their western Digital's already doing that. Like, they showed it to Ryan. And I what a year ago now fullest out to California, and and showed us, and there were they had not only did they brief us on it. But they had like product actually doing it. It's just that to get higher densities. Now, the bottleneck for advancement is sputtering technology of like how they can make the media able to handle writing tracks that much narrower. So you just need to make the domain smaller. The magnetic domains on the media smaller now. So now, it's like all crap we solve this problem. Now, we have to spend years developing this, you know, advancing this other part of the technology. So that we can actually get the the benefits so expect that to ease in. So it's not like the first mammal drive. You see is going to be one platter twenty terabytes and no need for shingles. Or anything like that? It's going to still be a progressive thing. Just based on the media advances. Sure, unfortunately, and really like to some breakthrough. And just, you know, oh, here's this fifty terabyte two and a half inch laptop hard drive with oil can handle that. Yeah. And then you're winning. Five years. Yeah. Yeah. And then the windows installer. Would immediately be five terabytes the chat. Does remind me that you can buy twenty terabyte USB sticks on Alex Brown. Absolutely. Totally twenty bucks. You can just keep writing. No problem. The just don't look doesn't look don't just don't write more than like four MAG. Yeah. Let's get him to the picks. The week Jeremy's up first with a motherboard for us. Yeah. I mean, it's that time of the year again where you're sort of trying to figure out cheap gifts for the people that you pretend to care about. You know, beef it for fifty board is a great way someone up with an upgraded system that they can't break very easily. And the deal they're having right now, at least on the Canadian version, it's going to be cheaper in America, but ninety bucks. And this thing has forget everything you're possibly going to want. If you have the money to put an end to in their away, you go. It's it'll support decent DDR for a thirty two hundred megahertz. And I mean, it's just got a fair amount of features for what you're going to get or at least what you should be expecting to get at an eighty dollar price point. Also does look that bad either. I sorta board. Nice sorta board board. That's rock has done some good things with an for. Yeah. It's rice in two thousand series ready. So you don't have to worry about. Well. The only thing is laughing wifi and most people are would consider that a benefit. Now Justin have his Pickin. So I've got a bring that I do too. Without you didn't at the beginning. When I got my tabs on. All right. What do you got Josh? So, you know, higher quality g sink monitors are finally getting into price points where people will consider buying this. Fortunately, I miss sale last week. It was like two hundred bucks off this aid ninety nine price was six hundred ninety nine bucks for a fourteen forty. Ultra panel thirty four inch wide. It's not HDR, but as g sink, and it's a hundred megahertz no one hundred twenty hundred. Yeah. I know. I know it'd be nice when his honored hurts, but you can overclock two hundred twenty Hertz. Some people have had good things that not. But you know, it's it's just a really nice if you want to replace your three monitor system with something as Jesus it's not going to kill your make your wife Qilya. Then this is a nice. It's a nice product. And I think in the back. It's it's got the it's got the by of the not the. Yeah. The LED MAC so you can program looking. So if you're on a dark room, you've got the on the back doing doing the back light bias so and you can program that to do different effects and whatnot. So it's a really sharp look in unit. That's pretty nice. I mean, it's a lot of ISA multiple. Yeah. Gaming products have styling that's a little too much. And this this is aggressive, but you know, kind classes Classis. Yeah. Let's see nice nice curve to it eighteen hundred dollars. I think, but yeah, it's it's one of the, you know, shockingly less expensive large g sink monitors out there. And Scott, plenty of features nine hundred bucks out too bad. And it is a further advancement over like what was previously like the Acer predator forget which one that just the X thirty four or something there was Nacer predator monitor. But realize those previous ones there are similar to this maxed out at one hundred Hertz. Or is this one go gives me another twenty which is impressing, those were twelve hundred dollars more. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll take down there. This is. MS RPM. But so it'd be catch it, you know, I mean, there's more sales coming up. No doubt. I wouldn't be surprised at this monitor dip back down to that same price. And I've played with one of those are ones isn't look this. Good. That was you know, my opinion. So yeah. Acer design is just really kind of like they do that shiny black stuff. They like to do that. Especially on the back of the predator. Yeah. Like that show scratches and fingerprints like, you wouldn't imagine. So if you ever desk and a set up where you can actually see the back of your monitor. It's like nowhere near sharp looking. And that is that alienware. Nice nice. Yeah. All right kens got something for us. Yeah. Just a quick one. They nonstop blues. Come last week. I guess it was that they're part of the battle net gifts program a Disney to for PC's free through November eighteenth. Now, it's convoluted way you have to claim this you have to go into the bow net client and click on the gifts, button, tab, whatever and accept it. But then you'll own the game in perpetuity. It's the base game expansions. But we want to give it a try. It's really damn good looking game. This goes scales. Really well on all hardware like it scales down while it goes up. Well, if you happen to have HDR, it looks amazing, and it's pretty fun too. Awesome. Keep people off of an keep their minds distracted from something else. That may have been not well received. It has come. I don't know what you're talk. Okay. Oh, come on warcraft, three needed a remake. Should've meet remade workup to first come on. You're not wrong. Musab Trinity's hang on one second. I gotta rip. No, I heard you can open another link. Okay. So allen. All right. So I tried this. And I thought it was a fail. And then I tried it again. And I wasn't. So you know, there's those battery packs you can get some of them are claim to be powerful enough to be able to jump start your car in. Usually they are not and like blow up because you're trying to use just a regular with the battery and try to jump start a car off of it liquor possibly wrong. What if you could jump start your car, just by using the remaining power left in your dead battery, if only you had like some sort of voltage passenger and a and a set of ultra capacitors? And at sort of a reasonable price point because if you try to people that make ultra capacitor a car batteries, but they're like three hundred bucks for with a capacity. Suitable throatedly what if what if you got a super cap, well, it's a Bank of outlets that's like sex. I think I haven't loved have an open up that box it's like sex sex. So so what this is it's a super cap like a Bank cap with the special module that connect sept- input from either. There's like an adapter with a cigarette lighter plug thing or can just use the jumper cable style. Like alligator clips connected to your existing battery or there's even if you're all in the weight like a half an hour. There is a micro USB in. So and it will view. And I confirmed this and it it charged self over. The course of a half an hour up all the way from nothing all the way up to fourteen and a half volts. With enough power behind it to jump start. My GTI the only catch was that my battery was good but dead. So if I tried to connect it to the battery directly it would immediately start dumping the super caps into the battery and by then by the time, I can like run around and get in the car and go to crank it. There was just barely enough to actually turn thing over more than mcmeel couple of rabs. Right. So then I tried again later, and I just disconnected my battery before I just hooked right up to them terminals on the car and jump start the car. No problem. So that might be the tesla. It would it would actually. So here's the thing. That's funny. Tesla's have a twelve oh battery, and if that battery goes dead, you can't drive the car. It will not fire up even though it has its even though you're sitting on a huge battery pack, you can't get to it. Because there's not enough twelve volt power to shut the contactor to connect the big battery to the rest of the car. So this is the kind of thing that would even jump start a tesla. It'll be out tomorrow to take his car. The tesla dealer for service. So interesting idea, just, you know, note to self like if your battery is dead, you might need a disconnect the battery and just like, you know, so that doesn't get in the way if you're trying to jump start off the the super cat Bank. How much interrogation time can get out of full charge on this interrogation time. Can you can you swipe those apart? So that there, you know, you you can actually reach both nipples with the clamps looks like. Yes. They split apart. Good. Yes. They neck split apart a sufficient distance. Although I looked to have a serial peril mode. Switch was gonna use it for that. I thought it was interesting that you could you know? Solid idea. You just need something to boost the voltage in even if you're using the remnant, you know, if your car batteries down a like five volts or something it'll still. You know, it's all transformation, man. Yeah. It's just boost up to higher voltage with enough of behind it to to crank start or a couple of times. Right. I know solid idea. And there's nothing to really degrade here. You don't have to worry about like, you know, because I had a like a lithium jump start kind of thing in my GT is like a backup. And I even brought it back in the house and try to charge it and go figure it's been in the car for like two years in the heat and the cold, and that pack has just dead doesn't work anymore. There's nothing really to degrade here. So this thing stays dead until you charge. It up off of the dead battery. Kinda interesting. A couple of people in the chats said it doesn't look like good idea. So I mean at the work, we we are not endorsing nuncios. Nuncios generator over, but if you're interested if you're check that out and Sebastien you've got to pick for us. Mood did nude it. All right. I'm on mute it now wonderful furnace noises. My pick is for a sound blaster product is not this sound blaster, which is the classics Lester sixteen. I say port allow, and it's got the little little adjustment volume. Knob on it too. The volume knob, which is so convenient. Is check it out. Okay. Dame port. Import. And this one actually does not suffer from the hanging note bug because it has firmware revision four zero five. Ooh. But actually, it is this sound blaster product, which this is not. Nice. Podcast. Don't know that Allen until now. But this interesting thing is a USB device. It's a the sound card, but it also has like line level inputs a Fono input. It has built-in Fono preempt. It has optical digital input and output. Joystick into at whatever fire to how how is the latency? I'm always concerned with latency over those USB connected. The sound of ice because they usually add something over the PC version, but I was using this for was basically just capturing from turntable. I was digitizing some vinyl that's not available digitally, and when I was listening to it in real time as I recorded there was no perceptible lag. Okay. But it's hard to say this was I was using this as the photo preempt. And it did a very good job. It's very very quiet because you know, you can totally see what the needle is is doing in terms of sound and what's hitting your ears. The whole like the the needle drop and like the. You hear from the final listen. Josh Sebastian can hear these things. He can I can I can hear throbbing gristle. Wait and see Sebastian doesn't even see the vinyl. You just sees peaks valleys stereo, there is nobody. Yeah. I mean, if you're immersed in a well setup, a living room speaker system than no the speaker system here, and you're transported to a magical three dimensional realm of audio goodness. But I do not I do not have that. And in fact, I don't even have a turntable set up right now because I have a three year old child who's extremely destructive. So hence the idea. Hey, when I digitized some of these records, I can't listen to in the other way this thing does a good job. It's one hundred dollars. But if you're if using it for PC audio it will drive any headphones. It supports IRA six hundred homes. Yes. It does support six hundred fewer a Sennheiser fan. Wait. No, I'm thinking of the six hundred three hundred dollars. But anyhow, it has a good reputation for driving headphones the issue with it. As far as playback is concerned is even though there are dual oscillators. On the board. It only implements the forty eight kilohertz oscillated for I don't know why it's even on there. You can see a rant about that. At IXP T dot coms review of from two thousand fourteen but. Everybody who's reviewed it. As basically complained about the same thing. You cannot set it to forty four one in software eighty too and if you're into high resolution digital audio some of the stuff is mastered at like twenty four bit forty four one. Modern pop music is often mastered that way because it's like basically with remaining in March, and they don't need anything higher than forty four one. But this will not do that it up samples at forty eight. So you lose, you know, the original format sample rate version as the devil. It is. And it makes thing. The audio stream. I don't I will be happy to live with like forty four one. I not going to be a snob and say I have to have ninety six or one ninety two which I I was I can't even hear the difference. Ninety six twenty four is great forty four is great to if it's well mastered. But it has to be played back forty four one in most onboard sound cards play everything at forty eight above or below. So everything gets recycled as you're listening to through the DSP. And unfortunately, this one does too it plays back ninety six fine and forty eight but it's resembling anything that's forty four. So that's that's the drawback, and there are products like the I fi Nanno ideas de L E, which are way better for playback, but they are fifty dollars more expensive. And basically only does play back you can't do capture. So if you want capture and you want to use the laptop to capture like I was just pretty much essential because when the laptop was plugged into power. I was getting a ground home. So needs to be something battery-powered. They'll do great capture from analog sources like final if you're a hipster and have. Vinyl records for some reason. So well, I mean. The ability to directly record straight off the turntable at Fono level. It's totally worth one hundred bucks. Considering that you'd have to do like a separate photo preempt. And then an analog digital converter and the ADC and this is good. It's the serious logic fifty three sixty one which is well known. It's it's a good chip. And it'll it'll do like your native twenty four ninety six final rips. And it's it's very very good in the photo preempt built into this. I don't know if it's doing it through software or how it's doing it. But it actually is very flat. It sounds good. So no complaints. All right. Awesome. Thank you. I guess it's just me left eye. So I've got a pick. Where did it go somewhere you're tabs? I don't know. What's happening here goes, I don't take. So. Okay. So it is over seven as we're recording. This may not be when you're listening to it. But at November seventh is end seven day. What does that mean mass effect on man? I surely probably that in drama the no so in the mass effect game. Mhm and university and seven is the designation of the the specter soldier that you play. And so November seventh they have an seven day and bio ware does some some stuff in the modern community. Does some stuff they've been releasing some great Mods this week but play the module the game. So if you haven't played the game, or if it's been several years you wanna revisit it. It's a great time to do that you can pick up the whole trilogy for PC for twenty four bucks on disk. You can get it digitally from origin for thirty not sure pricing air, but it's not bad for three of my hands down favorite games of all time. It's one of one of scifi story each game subtly different. You know, one of the first ones are kind of more role playing the second one's more action thirds actions. Well, but introduces it's you know, it's got more of the story. Is that what they expansions are just the base games that I think that's just the base going get a couple expansions in there. But I think it's just the base. But yeah, you do want to pick up the expansions. You don't need the first the expansions for the first game. But the ones for two and three or kind of crucial. There's some big story elements that come in those. So it's just if you haven't played it in your scifi fan and got just got. It's an amazing story. It's probably one of the best overall scifi stories ever told him gaming and Yan drama came out last year, and it really disappointing. But I thought so at the original trilogy is still great so ten seven day. Go check that out save the galaxy fight the Rebours etcetera. All right. Well, that's a show. If you want to get in touch with us, go to PC dot com slash pot. Irked piece tweeting all right. Go to Twitter dot com slash PC per or Twitter dot com slash Ken underscore, Addison for this guy. Remember the underscore unless you wanna talk about Jesus. Dot com slash podcast where you find all our podcast. Sorry, PC dot com slash podcast. 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RuPauls Drag Race All Stars Season 5 | Episode 8 (and Canadas Drag Race!)

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RuPauls Drag Race All Stars Season 5 | Episode 8 (and Canadas Drag Race!)

"Hello Hello Hello and welcome to the RU. Paul's drag race a recap here on reality TV. On your host Liana Boris and we're here to talk about beef finale of Ru. Paul's drag race all stars five, and of course at the end. We're also GONNA touch on Drought Canada's drag race episode four. We did it guys. We finally finish all stars, even though it was only eight episodes in a long run of drag race just as a programming note, we are going to be continuing coverage for Canada's drag race after this. I'm so keep a lookout for that. We are in your ear buds through your favorite podcast APP or you can check us out on the Youtube. Page. That's rob. Rob Has a podcast youtube page to see our lovely faces, all of the runways and things like that, so I am not alone. I learned panel here for you today I I'd like to welcome in a woman who I've just had such a pleasure talking to throughout this whole season Beth. Dick's and Beth. How are you? I am rollicking to be here to cover the. Relishing relishing to be cared. I'm so excited. This has been a fun season to cover in the opportunity to come on here and chat with you all and talk about it has been fantastic, so I just wanted to quickly think everybody for being so welcoming to having my voice on the podcast, and this is just been so much fun I'm so excited to continue our conversation about candidates drivers to wrap up all stars five. And we also have a man here with us today. Who I can't wait to catch up with Amman. Amman, how're you? I am so happy to be here. We have reached the end. The are another one in the books. And Satisfying ending I must say although I feel like it was kind of hard pressed not to be satisfying, considering the final three so. We also have a special guest for you today you. He's a new. A new voice to HP met him through the class of twenty twenty. That is Josh. Mendelsohn. Josh welcome to the recap are weird. I'm so excited to be here and especially for the finale episode like I'm gagging right now. I couldn't be happier I'm a huge repulsed draggers fan have watched the. Back when I was a college baby. And I have not remissed it episodes. So, Josh you are Super Superfan of repulsed drag races or anything else that you would like the podcast listeners to before we dive into everything, Rupaul. I am the biggest reality TV junkie on the planet. Obviously big brother. I have been watching everybody on sequester so I love that, too, but honestly I like reality TV encyclopedia. You give me a season of a show. I can probably give you the full boot order I've probably. Had to be here. Five! All right man. Soviet quiz at the end. Bringing on Jordan since you quizzed on everything, Rupaul all right well, let's get into our thoughts on the finale Amman. I want to hand it over to you satisfying ending for you, shake crown our winter. What are your thoughts overall? I mean finally. I mean we've all known story of is Jake Delay Right like she? Have the congratulations shake. Who Life picture that I stole from the twitter account. and. Work. Her Story Arc, and then she has probably one of the most. Popular Redemption Rx in drag race history. You know I mean because she has such a good run on Tuesday nine, and then it all came. Crashing down with rose petals at the end, so she had a lot to prove. and. She certainly wasn't shy about referencing, said failure so a lot of ways, this was just such an epic success, not only for her, but for the drag community in general and. You know it's a it's A. It's a needed win in time that we're in right now. Like just know celebrating black win by Queens, and I just love the fact that she said that her drag is really a homage to beautiful black minute. That was just a nice touch so. I'm I'm happy I mean it's hard I. Mean It really is? It's really hard to not like Shakoor. Who who dislikes Ching-kuei Mike? Your Hand, you can get out. A. Castle centers none of us were Israel's. We s we all. Sarah solves a little bit. Shakily Josh I think one of the things about this season is that? It is crowning shake. Who Lay of course for accomplishments on all stars? Five almost feels a little bit like writing, maybe writing, but rewarding her of course for her past performance on season nine. Yes, I, honestly from the second. This season started Shane was the front winner the front runner? There is no question and then honestly every episode. She us on herself at such a level where she was just laying week after week. I mean she had a few minor was, but some of those performances she made really put her in my opinion in one of my top five drag race contestants of all time. There's no much to me. She's incredible. Yeah Beth I I. Think. We talked about this probably at the beginning of the season, but like this felt like now that it's all over. There were moments of doubt, but felt like sort of the the march to Crown Shakoor lay. It really did. I'm thankful for that, too. I think you know before it went live one of the things that we were talking about. Where does this all star seasons stack in other ones and I felt like every week based on the performance that they were doing in the competition. The Right Queen went home. Even if it was heartbreaking, it was probably the right person who went home every single week and I do think that the right winner one I think that Shea has brought just an elevated level of drag. From the moment she greets are screen in season nine. I'm so thankful that she is finally being seen I. Mean I don't think she was i. think maybe in her own mind. She was being seen as like maybe not being one of the best because she wasn't able to like. Take home the crown, but I really feel like this. All the way around was validating only for Shea, but like for all of us have like how much boss ass. Bitch Shakoor lay is like she really just went and did that. And she deserved and I'm I'm with you Josh? She's one of my top favorites. Ever since I saw in season nine I got to see work. The world's second ever show. It was a Montreal and it was. Three Days Valentina had been eliminated from season nine and I got to meet Valentino. who was in a mood. I'm Jay and obviously shape i. you can tell you had the confidence of like. The quiet confidence. It was not at all egotistical. It was like I've got this. This is my season to lose. And it was in. She was just so warm and. Recorded a wonderful conversation that somewhere on Youtube. Her and Bianca del Rio. Who is the one that was hosting the show talking and this was just you could tell that. This was hers you know. And when it slipped through our fingers I was upset about that for a long time, just because I felt like her warm energy. Really probably suffered from that in terms of how she felt about herself in the community. Some happy that this is all coming. Full Circle. Yeah I'm happy with shake. Who is the winner? I also WANNA. Give just so many combinations to the other two queens who are in the top three as well jujubes, cracker, I think also performed so well throughout the season. This was just such a great top three not so happy about the the song for not the queen's false, but we'll. We'll talk about all of that but overall. I think I'm happy with the outcome I think this. This was a really great season. Actually now that we kind of look back and think about it a little bit more holistically really enjoyed everything that the season had to offer and I think it was. It was the right length also kind of happy. It was only eight episodes. We didn't have any returning queens or anything like that. Of course apart from the Queen's coming back at the end of perform, but overall I think just a really outstanding season. Okay! Let's get into all of the details from this episode so. Josh! Was this the top three that you anticipated? This is the conversation Tad after Blair's elimination. -solutely okay first of small. Blair is like the Judy career. Repulsed Eliza bridesmaid never the bride, so I knew right from the first episode. This would mostly be your top three. They all were there for different reasons, and they all proved a different thing so like Jimmy proved that she is worth being a legend. Because, she has legendary status. Show that she's. They're not always the best, but she's there. You have on MS cracker. Think prove prove her cell. That she is. She got out of her own head. I think in season ten. She was in her head to munch and I think this time. She proved like she can do it and I think. Shame was redemption. She should have won the first time and I think. She came back on her throne. We also had the oddest pillow fight I. Think I've ever seen on drag race. I'm trying to think of we ever seen. It's like Ju. be coming out of nowhere, but of course. Dubious charm. It was also elevated, should a smack cam, but with the fake boobs like that to me like I like legitimately. I can't remember who slept with the Boob I'll I had. But A. Good Chase slapped Jujitsu to. Thank you all I can think about. It was like that. Could actually her like the like. Of and then I was like. That's just getting dirty pillows into honestly. Fight It was. But that to just kinda defines the season that there was a level of quirkiness. A level of respect that was still underneath Just the level of fun I think that's what kind of defines the season. This wasn't like also to. You had a whole bunch of shake. Who Lays in the competition in my opinion? You had a lot of people who were there for. but I agree with your assessment. Josh we had Juju. WHO IN MY MIND I hate to compare queens but like. When you have someone who's proving that there are legend like to me if you look at other seasons, that would have been like a Manila for example in season for you know you had. Ms Cracker coming out of her own head, right? That's very caccia and he's in jail. The Queen that really like? Wanted this with every fiber of their being almost got the crown in then got it that for me is Alaska. So I think that there's a lot of parallels here that when we look at some of the Queen's that have been in previous seasons. We got to see that in the top three in new that. People would happy with literally any of them, but I think the people are especially happy that Shea one. I don't want to speak for everybody in the world but I do think. Generally. I mean I think there's part of me. That wanted Juba to win just because she She's performed so well. She's so charismatic. She's so fun. She's so funny, but at the end of the day. When you compare the two of them just feels right. Give Shakily the crown. But usually means something like I will make her crown. Wants it. She deserves some. You better believe it. Go to fierce drag Joel's. Before before we talk about the reunion niche thing. There do you remember the phone? The whole phone call thing so I listened to drag her. Which is Nicole buyers podcast? Nate interviewed Kara Klenk. I. Think is how you say her last name. It's K., L. E. N. K.. She served as a writer like producer for the show, and apparently each week rule would call the lip sync assassin, and there was a different phone each week, so there was like a hamburger phone and like a super. Super Old Cell Phone and things like that, so that phone tied into I think calling the other girls to like. Come back and do the reunion or something like that anyway. It made sense I. think in the Grand Scheme of things but Thank you to reach out to me telling me about that I. Really appreciate that it provided some reason for why there was just a random phone call at the end of last week's episode. Why wouldn't they just include that in the episode? Time Lord knows they had time. At least. I was. I was kind of like lead until lead Oh. Is it going to be like season three gun where we have the whole? Thing where they take out Jan, but it was like. Oh, they just bring them back so they can sit and watch it and have a second in the final song. They really just trying to mess with us because they go. They knew that the fans were speculating going to only eight episodes. How could they really be? The finales were just like. Let's just really mess with them. Now throw that in there. With me for sure. I think kind of. Like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Episode. No that I'm like. All right well, let's talk about the reunion, so all of the Queen's from the season. Come back and hide in the like puppet. Whole Slash glory hole. That's in the work room. Give me a thoughts on the reunion. There were I. Mean obviously we have the main juice of all of this. which is I think we finally figured out what happened with the whole Alexis? telling India to vote for Shea ordeal debacle. Which I think. Is called a few weeks ago. We were talking about it, which was just that there was a miscommunication. I would also say that India. I think Indian chose her vocabulary very specifically and send the were campaign. When a campaign does happen before Vo. It doesn't happen. Let's. Drop that dropped. Knowledge that the ball. That's an exit full bench like karate. Vote for that is not a campaign. Come come through, political science. Well we knew Alexis was GONNA throw. Come on, she's got it all. They choose the puppet challenge hole for the behind. The I still has so many questions about that I thought they were going to do an impromptu like puppet challenge, but like have the returning Queens. Do it in just about the final three or something like that I thought that they were going to do which I would have been fun about anything about that. Let me, just stick my face in this whole through. You're talking about US across the room. Basically it was. Interesting it was, it was funny. Yeah Josh was definitely giving me like Vandy hiding eleven vibes. Loved, it I was living for. Anyone here love India era eggplant out, but I was living. Oh. My Gosh, that is something. My friend would absolutely where I was living me and my rumors that and we're alike love. They were going to try in. Extra juicy. They were hoping that cracker or Shea or be would have had something negative as the other girls because we know that those conversations I mean they're. They're not scripted, but they're contrive. Producers want them to talk about the other girls before we start the segments. I was in that we're going to somebody's off off off color, but no, they were just nice. To be honest. The reunion was actually most of just the eliminated Queens fasching things out the most. That someone was really was what I guess Shea, but even she really wasn't even participating in the conversation. It was more just like India and Alexis in mayhem. All sort of hashing it out which I thought was was kind of interesting. Berry going. It's ME I. Yeah I think Let's see what else was there any other thing that was interesting from that? Oh, the one line that I absolutely loved was when mayhem the hour talking about their alliance, because it was like Oh why you can't zones over something so i. don't know who said it, but someone said a blood pact within via for what? Love. was that. Way have been. James either. Cracker I felt like it was one of the final three that said that. I died when that came up I literally pause. Yes, so I guess Amman. What did you think about this reunion I mean it was a reunion wasn't hosted by rose just the Queen's talking. What did you think about this format? Because honestly actually might like something like this in the future. I mean it definitely is a breeding ground for like more. You know things to come out. Because you reunion, you set it all up. Everything is like structured so i. I enjoy the fact that it was like Oh. She's another day in the room We're GONNA. Throw some shade out here and there so I don't I kind of. Should continue to do stuff like this because we anticipated anyway. We anticipate McQueen coming back at some point so I was glad to. Literal characters in this episode aside from the final three. I think usually like they haven't had a reunion like full-on in the past. All stars like this is the person where they just brought them back for that office and I think not having grew there for a reunion. Makes it even shadier. They're going to throw everything like mariah was throwing shade out at mayhem. It was great that was living. Removed the whole like. Rupaul a therapist counsellor conflict mediator wall, which has been discussed the season. Ru is not that even if he wants to think that he is, he's not so I think it really does provide like cheer point Minden. Josh like it really does allow the Queen's to say what they wanNA say without feeling like they're going to make a fool out of themselves or something in front of their idol. Yeah. I think I think this was fun. I think this is good. I think part of the drama Cain. Though from just having Queens from older seasons. Think. There's so much caution with. How are the fans going to respond and? So because there is a part of the drag race fan on this absolutely insane, and so you know the Queen's now are much more tempered. I think to a certain extent, whereas the queen's for season three or higher Alexis like when you were listening to people were bringing the drama. I'm like Oh those are the queens from the early season. I don't care. I'm here I'm just going to speak my peace. I think that that was also really refreshing so I think probably a combination of the format, but also just with the queens and their general mentality, an approach to drama on the show I was definitely the case Josh. I was most. Overall season I was actually surprised with how much trauma Lettuce Matteo brought a she came in. I was like she's. Like she was on all stars one, but like I wasn't that impressed and she came in, and she was thrown drama every single week I was like okay. That's why they brought her back and I enjoyed them bringing the old queens back because they were bringing the drama Mariah her. That was. It was working. I, Love L. Alexis. I'm happy that they were brought back because I think they added a much needed. Sekwa to the season for shore. All right well, let's get into the performance the actual main challenge this week, so the Queen's were asked to collaborate on ruse latest song clapback course they had to write and record their vary on first, and then do Corio with Toddrick Hall perform at all, and that is the final challenge. So, what did you think about this challenge overall? So I'm always a big fan of the. Author's last challenge, because I am a choreography queen on the I, love dancing of the showmanship of it all. At the I eat up every time. The vixen she tweeted. I was trying to find it while you were about to bring it up. It was something along the lines of Taj Mahal. We find it. All she tweet so much. Why is it all the way down there just? On, the lines of like. Sergey car has a habit of giving. Like dancing queens. It's kind of unfair competition, and honestly I think I kind of agree because. The reason why she's performance was so. Awesome must because the reality was up there and if she fails as Well for she founded because you gave for this while you were given the other girls to keep watch changes, but if she does, but at it, then it's only gonNA share the clear winner. So it's like any way, you slice, it just kind of like uneven I'm a fan of. All but I really feel like you. You want because he would have been saying that. This is the Marsh Leeann for Shea Anyway, right? You want this last episode to really highlight. All of the skills of all the queen's that are left and the best way to do that is to give them an equal playing ground in this music video so that way. We can't tell what's going to happen that. They sort of dropped the ball in that respect. It was definitely the challenge like I thought to me like Giambi being cracker. We're like shades opening acts like they were all great, but like it was shade that just the way that and the choreographer the thinking for was. Miles better than the other tail. Best is you feel like this was sort of clear win for a shea in this final challenge. I think the other thing we have to consider. Is that season I was the first time this was the finale challenge in regular season. Such as the only one who's ever done this specific challenge to this degree in finale kind of sense. Of course. Didn't really help her in the long run because it just ended up flake. Although you're great, you're all going to lip synch now. So there wasn't any kind of eliminated or crowns. Person based off the just that challenge in season nine, but it does give our competitive edge because she kind of knows what she's going to be doing. I tend to agree with Amman in the vixen that I think that it's very like it's unfair, because like if someone doesn't do it properly, you sit there but I also think that good dancers. Good actors, good people who are in the moment know how to cover up mistake. Stay in character and just keep going and make it seem like they didn't make a mistake the only person. On the judges panel, who would have known would have been toddrick in if you can continue on target has given the note before when he's been a judge, which is. Yes. She messed up, but you wouldn't have known it, and that's great and that's. That's part of the challenge in my mind. But I think that I mean changes proved herself. She was fantastic. This is a challenge that you have to be able to write lyrics. You have to be able to memorize them. You have to be able to lip sync. You have to be able to do the choreography in yet to do that all within like in a half it's insane and I. Don't know if you'll know this. Dave film those at least two times, if not three times and I think what they generally do is take whatever the best take is so now only do you do it once in front of the judges, you do it twice or three times and just hope you get your best. Take every time. Other Schumer stronger in one take and you're not. Going to go. Off. So I really like the move to do these sort of final performances, instead of being a part of like a rupaul music video, which is what sort of the final three? Challenge used to be I. Think this gives it tests. The Queen's a little bit more I think it's can always be super fun. I think though sense review wrote you category. Is Fed a little bit of a drop-off potentially? Or maybe it's just this particular. A performance I thought the corio fantastic I thought the queen's looked fantastic, but if I'm just listening knocking ally, this was not my favorite song is not. Okay, thank you a mind. Yes, it's. It's like really practice like I. The song is grown on me cents, but I tried to remember some of the lyrics and I really can't like I think that there are other songs where there's just lyrics that stick with you, and this didn't necessarily give me that especially because I couldn't really understand shake who life like half of hers? Any of them. Honestly think that it's a mixing issue I the past couple seasons I have not understood the lyrics. I didn't understand the lyrics in the second episode of this season when they did a similar challenge. I whoever. For whatever reason the mixing sound mixing person is listening to us right now, please. You step. You're put up a little bit. Because it is driving me crazy that I have to watch it five times in order to hear the words. I don't think I don't think it's an annunciation issue. I really do think sound mixing. Lena I agree with you about the quoting. This one wasn't quotable. This isn't kitty girl says Anwr is you wrote you? Though it's you I could quote. I want to quote be busy. All Day. I quote her bath. Yeah. He earned the girl group one to say bonds. Yeah at least have one like one of them. I, think cracker is probably for me. The most quotable because she's got the time for dinner line. Not I can't remember what goes before it. Is it is it has anything to do with maybe curt nifong because I can't remember all the other ones that well right now. But it seemed to me like the the the ones that we've seen in the past like you wrote Shoe Arlene much more. Like. The audio the sugar, the song strictly by itself is much more filled with just the queen's and only the Queen's whereas I played this one interspersed with so much like Rupaul vocalisations in there. In a kind of just like. Me Out of it like each and every time I don't know if I'm like being a little bit too critical. I kept noticing to the transition between each. Queens verse Oh. She's like Oh here comes the roof off again. It's just a really very weird production on the track. My favorite, no I completely agree with that I. Guess That's what I was also getting out with the sound mixing. You also have like in this one. There was a lot of like whistles, and there's just a lot going on detracts from what the Queen's are saying. But I definitely feel like there's. I mean we. We've known that. There's a lot of different music producers that are coming on helping out ever since you know. Loosen peonies just like. Off the deep end and done. But. Yeah, so I feel like they're I. think they're finally getting. On the right track I would put this song above. American? Like. I didn't like the season ten finale. One I didn't like What did they do in seasonal? I can't even remember what they didn't season eleven. Season Eleven. Was Season Eleven. It was the one where. The back. Of, the that was final five. Yeah. But this is like I. Mean I can't even really remember that. You know what I mean like. I feel like this one at least a clapback. I'm going to be like okay. I can get clapback and. Just! Minimalistic. Production. I thought maybe just wasn't enough malady. I think. For this for this one on. This one! Yeah, that's fine, yeah! How? Josh. I did like the leg the season six thing bidding crackers. I thought that was fine. LYNGE kill. Other was hidden. That was that was that that hardly ever is bad. I guess just a song didn't match the energy in my opinion. Yeah No. I completely agree I think like the actual performance. If you just watch it without the sound like. Joel No, honestly, because I so I pulled a couple of clips for each of the Queen's performances and I've been scrolling through them as we're talking. I'm pulling up jujubes now and even Jujubes, which like I think probably hers I would say is the weakest in terms of of the corio performance. is still looks fantastic like this. Just look so fun. But the song itself. I would I don't know I can't help I think super. Queen is worse or this one is worse. No, this one is worse I. think There's more rupaul in Super Queen less of the actual Queens, but in terms of the song this one I just did not five with. Singing so where the slowed down version for. That was season for right of Ulcers I. That one I was just like. Why are we bringing it down talking to you? Here's the thing now that I'm thinking about it. Okay, we had. I think I'm going to collectively say I, think most people find that whichever version you say. Is the best one that they've ever done. It was the first one I've ever done. When I got to thinking about it in every single queen had something iconic in their. Verse and in their choreography. I would argue that Roxy had the easiest choreography, but at least you had the fan, and she was written the pages out and doing all that kind of stuff, unlike her like wag was amazing, but like even. Detox had the chairs like there was something complicated about every single one of them in. It was just like. Let's give all the complicated stuff to Shea, and then have misconduct. The season sex thing. I couldn't unlike Jews vs complication was I going to dip back at one point, and that was it but I felt like that wasn't an all stars level of. Let's make things complicated. I think that might be another reason for me where I i. just kind of was focused more on the choreography. To I, don't know. Got Amid, so, this is one where they do the performance on that sort of sound stage vs on the main stage whereas. Category is and read. You wrote you or both done on the main stage. Then I think American may have been the first one where they moved off on on to this other stage to perform so I think that allows them to do a lot more, but somehow almost because of the limit that they had with the stage that it required innovation required them to come up with more stuff for the Queen's to do or members run out of ideas. Honestly I have no idea. I thought again. The performance itself was still fun. Even though the song in my opinion was lacking now let's take a break. Tear word from our sponsors. And we are back, but let me let me just pull up because I do for those of you who are watching the video version of the podcast I have cracker is performance, whereas they do the season six mini challenge where you sit over the other person and they do the legs I thought that that was just really fun, and then of course Miss Shakoor lay with that car wheel Josh Oh. My Gosh, that was like the coolest thing we were me and my roommate were gagged. When that's happened, it's so incredible. Gun. yaws yes, work. That's the game. I was. In? She's not a big person, but she's not light I here. Man Didn't drop a lip sync. Word all she just. said that I was like if she doesn't win. I am suing everything that has to agree race. Notice that. Time to felt like all the contestants were matching their specific background dancers. I like I got. Have they done that before? No, I don't think so which that took some level of coordination. From which ends, I mean I think it's based on what the Queen's wanted. Because crackers is all about cooking and baking, and what's for dinner and all that stuff and so her backup dancers are all sort of dressed in these slights, fifties, housewife garb that like aprons, and all that stuff. They would actually be cooking. Which I thought was pretty interesting. I agree. Okay, let's talk about the runways before we sort of summarized the season, so we did have all of the Queen's Return Oh by the way I do want to say having all the Queens returned to perform in the number, even though I could only see a few of them every once in a while, but still like kind of cool. You've players named Clair. Doing her best choir had him on. Learning the dance. I felt so bad for her because she wanted to be there. Now. Yeah I like that I kinda wanNA preferred if they. Still like? More. Really does bring this off together in the end, but it was. It was really cute I enjoyed that. Okay, let's talk about the runway, so we do have all the queen's their way. I didn't pull the look so if there's any look that y'all WanNa talk about that was not from the top three. Let's just talk about those now before we dig their all those. Yes. Will Mention Derek's runway where the crown. I was like that as Elsa Halloween. I don't know if it was in the episode during talks were like you know what this isn't, but I see Derek Very I. don't see branding and I really liked. They were supporting her. You know what I mean I, don't. Why have? A soft spot for Derek Berry late I have a pension for liking people that everybody else hates and I really need to do that at some point. Hey. You know what you should join that part of it. I just I I. Like what g brought to the thought that it was really elegant and. The crown falling off was kind of you. She should have worked on that, but. I like. It was very cost me Josh I. Don't feel like for an all star elegance or run away if that was what she would have worn in the top three honey. Up. Coming back the first boot this season appropriate, it was fine. It looks beautiful. She looked really great at the crown. Falling off was funny. She never any pressure on her. So didn't really matter you know like. She's. I have mixed feelings about Derek as a as a personality but I I am I. It was fun in this episode was fun to see your comeback of his fun to see our interact with the other queens. It was fun to see her. Do a runway to her point. She didn't get to do a runway all season. It was just the talent show in the first episode, so she gets her one and only runway I was here for? US personally if I was, Europe would have come back in the I. Burt my gym down workout gear. Up There Jim Djalma. Free Brit me. And Yeah I. Don't tell you about so Britney. Spears posted on instagram that she just burned her. Jim Now and she was so Chalan about the whole thing. But she was like in another Jin doing work and she's like. said. This isn't my gym in because they on. Does she? Work. Six Days and I burnt my gym down. Next to be like I need this to be like the the album title. Them Round Oh. Well. Over. The season thirteen. My. Runway that's the challenge there you go. Okay, though there's one look I wanNA talk about that. A burn my house down and that was Blair saying Clare like I'm not GonNa let him in. Because this look, Oh, my God! It was like the elevated version of that one look that she tried to do. What I was GonNa say I was. Women had the challenge was like she modeled after this gene, and because it looks so much like it, but. Better In. It would. Meet some like Alexander, McQueen vibes a little bit I loved it. It was beautiful and the hair crown like. The crystals on the face like everything had. It's no wonder. She was like I. Need to be in this finale. I need this. I spent seven hundred fifty thousand dollars on outfit. No I'm happy that they had the for us. Like this was great. The other one that I thought was amazing I loved Mariah's the. With at all. Very Mermaid Mary like an Elegant Mermaid. It was just I thought most of the Queen's, if not all of them had a really awesome runway. On Jinan would like the the repurpose fascinating from her first season from season one. That was more. Like the newspaper like aspect to it, really wondering Ila on her that we were kind of accustomed to with her now, but. I thought there's so many of them. They're just beautiful I. I really liked to lexuses as well. I liked her was a really take I, think it's her style. Really taken to another level I got a lexus really good job as well. It wasn't a fan of. Mayhem they hems. Down those panels like no now. Sorry like do not by but does. It just looked frumpy. From from. Bad. Okay well. I have been waiting sends. The episode has aired to talk about this luck. Oh my gosh, we are talking jujubes and we are talking like I. Other. Best look this season, and maybe one of the best looks in this entire season. All my gosh, it's gorgeous. I would argue I think this is one of the best. That's ever been America's drag race curated in the fact, that came from Jew. Who needed a look like this more than anybody else at any point of any other competition? I'm not lying. This was. Amazing. It was beautiful, told story about her told a story about. Her journey to the top three for the third time. I mean. I was just absolutely blown away. She came around the corner and I literally thought my head. Well Shea and cracker better bringing something else. Because if she got crowned in because of this look, I would not be mad at that. She wanted for Mall to the stadium. Honey, okay. Right because I mean here's the thing. She came into this season with like everything was. Yes, she'd like upshur thing. I think ammonia you said earlier in the season. She's like owning them all now, but like this outfit was just out of this world it was. It was so. Yeah that Orange Sash just really at first glance like wise that there, but then it just really just lake elevates that whole saying like just so it's so ornate in it's. Gold and it's just screams. Woman like all of the curves just perfect like adjust. It's an you know I'm just looking at it now. You know that she knows she looks good like it's just like bitch like. Mind that have had like the most. You know jaw dropping throughout the season baby. I'M GONNA. Give it to you right now. I just I love it I. Love it so much I. Think this is better than Shay's body suit, nude delusion, Alpha like the in your skin run by. Thought would be hard to top. That sashes just really just like. Taking it to another level for me. I think he s it is although those are my two favorite looks from the whole season which now I don't know if I'm just. Saying I love it I love. Carry Law. The one that shaded with the Rose paddles. Okay well, the. The Queen that pays Oh Masha heritage although I guess all three really did was ms cracker and she comes out wearing this Russian inspired hurl garment. Josh, what did you think about this? I'm so happy. You mentioned this. I'm actually a Russian Jews, so personally I have always been a huge fan of cracker because of Jewish heritage I wish I could meet her to ask her which summer camp. She had g growing up because that's the for us, juice? You A. Bummer can't be went to. which is a funny question but this is incredible. It it really reached out to my hair. J. John I guess like Third Generation American like my like my grandma grandma came from Russia was Ellis island on a black so. Long. That's pretty. Cool. So. This was just it was everything I loved it, and yes, it didn't show all her curbs by just how she wore it how she owned. That was just it was beautiful. Among. Your did your girl Crocker. Do good here. I like this. Something I to me was like screaming reveal. I don't know why maybe it was because it was. So big. That it was like that she was about to just like rick something off, but she didn't and I'm I'm fine with that I. think that the parole cascading down or really really cool I was half expecting to make a a joke but by. The early Russian Jewish. Barbie, Queen I love it. Yeah I think that's a really great way to describe it. I think this look gorgeous. Of course read after Juju I felt so bad for her just. Blowing my judges, but you know looking at it without that advertiser. Really Gorgeous and she looks so beautiful. She really does I I'm not GONNA lie. It took me a little bit longer of looking at it to really appreciate it because for me. Is I looked at it. I thought around the hips area. Inserts. It's not. It's not because she doesn't have shape. It makes her look shape that she's not in. It's not flattering, so that was the only portion of it, but then I started thinking like well. It's probably that's there's so many like we'll get into this. Like Empire You know. Silhouette has ways of making body look different. That isn't always like super flattering, or whatever by Western standards of what is wrong, and so I had to kind of like police that at my own mind at first like really just take a step back. In I really really love this I love the story that she was able to provide the after the fact because I was not well-versed in the idea of like what Russian. Russian especially Jewish like. Traditional, garb with look like the elevated levels so. But I have to say this looks gorgeous in this is very cracker while it's not cracker, and that's what I think I love about it the most I love the pearls on the like. What I'm calling millennial pinker her i. think it's absolutely gorgeous. There's like fringe on the bottom part of a the dress that I. think is really pretty as well just adds another texture to it. I loved the little veil of the pearls. The head pieces absolutely gorgeous. So in her makeup I mean. I mean the the signature MS cracker makeup in. She looks like Oh Blah Blah. Last Queen to walk the runway as Miss Shake, who lay Amman of? This was an outfit that she says is inspired by her mother. I believe her prom luck. which I thought was such a cool poll so neat that she even had that photo. Yeah welcome to the six. Yeah I love this. I, the only thing that I will say about all three of the looks kind of they were kind of lacking in the variety now, because obviously, the silhouettes are different for Miss Cracker and for. For Shea but all of the looks were pretty much monochromatic like I kind of wish that we got a little bit more pop, but that's I mean. There was no way for them to with the other. We're GONNA do not their full, and they all look good. It was just like kind of like underwhelming just in general but yeah I I love the Beehive I love that they showed us a picture of her mom's dress because it really just brought everything in context. And I always have a soft spot for the Queen's that. Do take after their mothers. You know what I mean because. A lot of game, all game or the same, but a a lot of them do have feminine qualities in. It's nice to like see. That highlight. To only look like I, I wanted to look like my mom. I want to know that guy identify as a guy but I wanted to embrace the feminine part of me. That exists because of growing up with this woman. You know what I mean so I. I love that and I think that this was just. So pretty and just so she'll just like a beautiful. Bubble of BUBBLEGUM. Love it. Some double bubble over here. Josh I think thing is just. She presented so well. I mean all the queen's do, but she looks fabulous here. Honestly when I saw this I thought it was beautiful and everything about it and I again amount was talking about this message delivered. I think it's delivered. It's not on. It was just an enhanced version of when her mom more and I loved that when she said that her dragons was inspired to black women and I. It just achieved. She could message I really thought that this just delivered and so many levels. It was beautiful. Against your skin just like. You had actually made me cry. When I, I watched if I watched it a few times, but the first time Nice on saw the message. And to your point. This is something that a mom brought up as well, but like the fact that she in her answer says that in her the purest form like her drag really is a love letter to black women, and so to pick this outfit bath I just thought was just the Cherry on top. I think to really pushing that message. It really was I think that. Shays had many moments in this competition and in season nine of making sure that she's uplifting black women in her drag in. Creating messages. About how black people specifically are beautiful doesn't have you don't have to be white to be beautiful, which is very ingrained in a lot of our messaging. You don't have to look a certain way. And I think that a lot of drag queens do that Shea. In my opinion does is one of the best at it. She's. Absolutely gorgeous. I'll never forget the first episode of season nine when Lady Gaga on talked to his backstage, she told Shea like you're gorgeous. You don't have to put so much makeup underneath your shoes, but I like it and I was like imagine not taking lady. Gaga of what advice because you like the way you look like that is the baddest bitch ever like. Absolutely you were right and you're gorgeous. You don't need to listen to someone like Lady Gaga, you know your beauty is in. You know what you stand for, and you stand for other black women and black people black non there nine non binary people whatever the case might be you stand for in with them, and I think that's or just so I mean she. I agree with you. Josh I had a tear in my eye with all three of them with the finale, but it kind of put it over the edge it just. Shake delays talking about her mom I think. that. It's becoming normalized to you know what I mean because. In a couple of years ago, we probably wouldn't be talking about this. Someone saying this is a love letter to black women on TV on drag race, and like why rain and five we'd only like I. Just love. The would have this moment and I mean like you said like I mean I. Mean The the reason why I love it so much as it pertains to sixty because. That was like a period in time, and at least black fashion where. Things believe diverted. was like what black people were in the sixties was different from work how they styled. Their hair has always been different, so it's like it's just like that. She was able to hide all of that in. The lots of unpack here and I think that. The message that she sent was. Awesome, so inigo me as a white person to really think about that. I started thinking about well. What at the sixties really mean for a black woman going to rob you know What did that mean? Were you at a segregated school were? In the country, were you? Where in the civil rights movement where where were we where we on the precipice of doing? Something really got me to about that. Just appreciate the look even more for something that I will never be able to fully understand I can appreciate. And so that was something that I really just love data shays runway. Then, I think it was really smart. Give that it's like a history. Lesson for drag spins out there because I think. Drag race fans. there. It's a it's a crowd. You know what I mean A. Fans I think educating on certain aspects of different cultures is gonNA benefit as well. I think moving forward especially with everything going on. This film last year. It was really I. think that makes it even more poignant. Give the the the climate change we are I would argue still in the embers of creating not anywhere near starting the real fire of. Okay so we have one final thing to talk about, and not is the final lip sync so? Obviously, we have all three of the live loose. The Queen's Lipsticks. Are you laughing? Because Josh. Earnest that song came out and I was like. Who is this for a lasting lip sync at an Oscar season? Guys I, really I mean the person who chose and lip sing songs all-season 'cause they need to be fired I'm sorry about it and they were. Fired come on. I entice sources. This was an odd choice. I think all three Queens performed very well. But you know I mean that being said like these final lip syncs. Really don't mean all that much You know the decision I assume was probably already made, but if there was still some doubt, I really think shake, who lay probably did the best here. She had a clear idea of what she wanted to do. She came out in essentially. What is the blue version of the SASHA VELLORE WIG? That she lost to at the Rose Tunnel? I don't know if that was intentional or not Amman. But that was such a fantastic move. I totally saw that I was like. Oh, I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. I was surprised that you put that address on. Because I think the cameras on untucked during the episode. She's like I don't give a shit. What I want I want to go out there and I WANNA look pretty this I know. This is like a really strange gowns and live saint gained, but like this is what I like. It's like if I'M GONNA die. Doing it, you know. I. Was Interesting I for cracker. I don't know what the hell was the commodities. Barbara hunting salt pepper shakers. Like Schuch something right? That's what she was live. Glitter to what was what what's going on here? It was just nine. I kind of preferred that she just didn't look. Like now all I can think about our. Asia Harrisburg is or whatever how other rookie was they didn't land so. I was thinking salt and pepper. Maybe she was saw peppering. What's your name? Logan in season six, maybe she. Telling me. Ima-? Imagine if that was the reference. She was GOI for him. So obscure scare the nobody wants. Yeah I feel bad for cracker. I honestly thought that she was going to do a very similar wig. Reveal at some point were she was going to take off the WIG inhabit be like I. Don't know Now Rose Petals, but you know like if they were black pedals. One recently like flew to char on Barco stars or something or like maybe. She take all the crystals of layers outfit and said I need these. As Amman say no butterflies. We don't want to do that again. I. Know Yeah. What is it? Don't work with animals and children. Even insects no. Okay well so. Di Really is the episode. We have untucked, although not much happens in untucked I, think we do get the thing that a man was referencing. She was shake I better look fantastic. I don't care if I'm getting crown of getting crowned and again. And Judea and cracker, talking about looking like hot MOMS. Reconciliation between a Alexis and In. India. So! That was nice, I guess. I liked it. It was likes being like girl. Know what you're doing, but I forget it because the competition. In India was still like she was like she says. I'm still kind of sticking to my word. I'm like okay, so what if what does that me? Your word sorry. I mean it's one thing to be like look i. that's what I thought I heard. That's what I thought. Even though it doesn't make sense at all of you still want to try to wake. Push it I. Don't know or even just look if that's what she was doing to play. The game I would have so much more respect for her if she just came out was like Oh. Yeah, yes, I think I'm claiming gave the I want to stay. Because she created the Lions, and the I also came out come out the Indian Faira that nobody even thought would come baffert. allstars was playing the Damn Dame. More, those Queens, and all of us would be like fro respect that early, yes, against the other Queens future authors emission to do the same damn thing like I wanna see it. I WanNa see me alliances. I WANNA see I. WanNa see people lying and backstabbing. You just come on Y'all like this is good TV. I I never hoped starting next season. They keep us twice, but instead keep it where only the winner wins. Yes, yes. Really drager meets survivor. It'd be so fun. We'll be incredible. Okay, so I have one question that I want us to discuss before we talk about Canada's drag race, and this is something that was tweeted out by our very own Mike Bloom so. He tweeted. My heartache is season nine. IS THE SURVIVOR SAN? Juan del Sur of drag race, not given much time in the moment, but now we all look back and say wow that season had all those queens in it and then he also says while we're at it. The with survivor comparisons all stars five is the editing cousin of Ghost Island. Let's focus on the first. The first part of that I'd like did not discuss ghost island of John. What are your thinking here i? Don't know I kind of because we're discussing I didn't get cold reference like the one thing I was thinking. Of like big cast members Ab Kelly Wentworth Zongo's style in Queen Kelly love her. She's a gem I liked me love. And that Natalie and you've got like a big characters, but it was like A. Jeremy. It wasn't a memorable season now overall, but it had some big names. Is that like the reference? He's trying to Sir I think also especially with Time San Juan. Del Sur is a season. It's gotten a lot more love recently like I know personally. It was always one of season that I enjoyed. I didn't really understand why it got so much. Hate I. Think also because it's just like known for so many crazy characters. And people that have come back like drew Christie, my God like even talk about him being such an entertaining character and I think when we look at season by first of all the top four, three of the top four have gone on to win in all stars, season, or of course, sociable Laura one her season, so that's sort of like Jeremy comes back winds not only comes back. In her original season, but does well so I can sort of see some of these comparisons of that that he's making here Beth. I can, too. I. I also think that we had such strong feelings about the lack of. Everybody at the time, the season season nine and San Juan del. Sur were like had a lackluster. And that maybe we didn't like all the personalities on the season like if you remember like I felt like everyone in season nine was like really down on the Bony Nebraska being gone under, and people were really down on Eureka, but then you re coupled out, and then people really down like all these like Queens, and when you really look at it like. In the moment I still maintain to this day for a regular season. That is the best promo shot that has ever been done. All of those looks fantastic. For the exceptional Guan. And I mean they all brought it. I. Just remember looking the Promo like Oh. My God, this season's going to be lay, and then it just kinda lackluster. I I would argue though that the season that everybody's still continues drag race to should add, but I feel like has some of the best ones and seven exactly look all the queen's on season. Seven of drag race and a lot of that was not their fault. It was like planning of the Producers Hall. It wasn't though because seasons seven was like had a great cast, and so much potential like. then. Jerks. Out which is not on white trixie apparently went out for. Pearl. Rupaul is that there is like the idea that. People would pay attention because Pearl was more attractive, outer drag or something like that I I actually heard the snatch game. If you saw video tricks audition, she was gonna be an. Rania, so I heard that was actually part of the reason why the production caught her. Is because she was going to do in frank, which it would have been so funny as jail I would have. been with. They told her. I think I think I know this for factor will have to check again. They told her not to bring in frank, and she said that she did it, and so I think that they were nervous. That might flip the. Flip the switch. Script and do it anyway. But Yeah I don't know, but I feel like season, nine season, seven or compatible that way going back to the point is like I. Think they're both like the sand Honda Sir. See. Right yeah, no, no, no, you go! What are your thoughts? They definitely have like names that have aged well. You know what I mean that have gone on to do a lot of cool things I mean those are the winner of season. One with epic Rose Pedal. Thing The Trinity is on that season. Eureka's on that season Heiferman was. Now doing TV and stuff on Broadway on that season NAVONA. Brown on this ballantyne and her crazy s vicious, just rent a couple of years ago on NBC. There's so many big names that have like I think it's one of the more successful casts of Azusa. Back, and just like absolutely showed people what she really had. been an amazing own Ramon, Eureka. James Mansfield on Kamara black I think are still. Remembered. Tubes yeah, exactly Alexis Michelle our favorite producer. You know she's she's up there you re. About before. I am I'm unapologetic. Alexis Michelle Fan I love her. I love her drag I. completely could understand where she was coming from with. Everything doesn't mean I agree with that and just putting that out there, but I can understand her meltdowns in season nine because she's a theater person theater people are like that their precious about things. I apologize because. It was cringe to Windsor Watcher. Her rose though and Mike China. Was Doing. Not You. Know. And like her. We're didn't Terresa what did, didn't she? Yes and then she does wig, weird, green teddy's or something like totally straight. Oh my God and then hurling construction. Look was so bad at. Rice Jones this lake horse. Their Berry. Avenue here, there's a here. It was funny, because like I understood what she was trying to say about Sasha velour because she said that. Sasha velours looks for pedestrian, which was not at all the right word what she was trying to say was that there's simplistic which is true, but they're high fashion and is used. She decides the case of like. Having correct opinions, but does not know how to it with them off. The is met her now a couple times and I have to say legitimately out of all the drag race Queens. I've met one of the nicest and just so warm and inviting and. was super super like she had a good sign, too, but like. Really took her time with people. It wasn't like a okay. Thank you next. Okay, thank you next as you can sometimes get like a drought kind or whatever but. That out there I. Think People Still Shut Out. Another queen that we didn't mention was of course. Charlie hides was on season. Who has like the Aga telling kids like? Oh, Charlie hides is like telling kids to get off the her lawn. That feeling just fantastic you've been. BOOT is iconic because like. Oh well actually. She's just standing there. Then she had a broken rib or whatever the hall like drama. Diarrhea. Sorry Season Nine's Union is the best reunion. There ever was it all came down to not only the fan favorite kind of stuff, but literally I don't know if all that gift, but somebody said season nine's reunion was literally like this video of like all these people throwing in beating things on this old person who's coming. Every, all the cranes and instance Charlie Hides. Group, Hall in Dinky Diarrhea that. Wasn't in the narrative. Hall. DOT needs to be brought up. All right well Mike I. Don't know if we answer. Boys talked about sees the knife. I hope you're happy. we'll let wrap everything up there any final thoughts that you guys WanNa. Give on all stars five before for. A mine anything thinking. I'm pleased. I think that the season had. It certainly introduced some to me because I haven't seen some of the earlier seasons still. So I'm happy in that respect. I think that the winner was well deserved the people that made it to the end well-preserved If it's like my favorite of the All Star seasons, but it's it's a good season though I think the week I think right now, though this is the time to take a break I don't WanNa. See All star six until at least two thousand twenty two. Remain honest like i. just feel like give them more these more current queens more time to live and breathe like I wanNA. See like people. That get brought back next time that we haven't seen in a long time. You know what I mean. I WANNA. See Trinity K. Bony that I. WanNa see back. And Yes. I've seen video. She's in right up aw incredible. Me She's starting to really bring in beyond safe. fantasies good. Okay, we'll talk about Canada's so I if you are hopping out your knowledge in Canada's drag race, thank you for being with us throughout this whole season, and it was so much fun like he's like. You heard from a lot of us. We really really enjoyed the season. Thank you josh for coming on and being our guest. Where can people find? You are interested on following you on social media. You can follow me medals eight as MEA. N E L S Eight on instagram. Josh Mendelsohn face. And Beth. What about you? Where can people find you? What are you up to? People can find me on instagram. Twitter twitch at Augusta wind eleven. I am continuing to work with my weekly meltdown. We are talking. We're going to wrap bb ten. I think this week and we're gonNA, do the final four through to the end on Thursday. We're. Getting into twenty two coverage are GonNa have some fun with cast rumors and all that fun stuff. And then also, if you are a fan of twitch in a fan of the game where Wolf, I won't be playing with a whole bunch of fun people from office podcast, my weakened meltdown sequester twitched people on my stream on August second. Win Eleven at seven PM Eastern love to have you stopped by and have a good old time with us as we. Play somewhere. And Amman about you. In finally at Amman, I win on twitter up as her usual. Ride. Let's discuss Canada's drag race so this week. The Queen's had to create a fashion line from recycled materials and I think before we. I like, I was like the headline. Here is the judging, because even my friends who like you'll walk drag. Race were like what happened. Drag race like the strengthening on twitter. What is going on so I? Kind of feel like we have to really discuss this? Because essentially, we had the three different fashion lines where each of the different groups had to make it out of a different recycled materials, so Jimbo Nomi and Alona were all the May Maison happy, so the House of paper lemon Boa Priyanka. Russ doing the metal scarlet, Reda Kiara did plastic which their house name was La Maison Baraga. Merge of all of their names. And of course, all of their looks had to be cohesive and high. Fashion is what they were going for, so Josh A. The judging this week. What was with the judging this week seriously? Honestly I think they were so all. I did think that. Jimbo was incredible I thought did a great job. And I thought that metal they said metal was like in the middle. I thought was absolutely. The Week S. They were completely off as far as my opinion goes. So the the winners were the the plastic the La Maison Baraga and then the overall winner was Rita, so and then the other queens were all judge, so the three winning queens were sent to their like untucked lounge. Queens were giving critiques and. The judges were also I. Think just kind of rude. If I'm being on his. Maybe. It was just Jeffrey Boyer Chapman because the whole line to Jimbo about like. Her using her time and like Oh will use. It better maybe was just so uncomfortable. Yeah. The episode. Side off so well. You know what I I was glad to see that That stacy was the one that was like controlling the welcome in the beginning. Through variety here, we're getting a chance to. All of the judges isn't going to be the Jeffrey. Warrior Chatman, show. And but Yeah I. They really didn't like that paper I was like that was constructed, so wow. I was so shocked out like. Is he trying to establish himself? As the bitch of the judging panel because I'm I'm fine with that late unpowered, having a harsh shush, everybody has to have you need a Simon Calorie on all right. You need that. By. Be Construct be right. Right. Didn't make any sense to me felt like. Is this a rerigging here like? was there a plan that was supposed to take place this week? And then the Queen's outperformed the that they were gonNA. Do Worse than what they did. And then all of a sudden. You have to switch it just. It came so out of left field. yeah bath! What did you think about the results this week? I agree with the winners. I agree that for me. The assignment was to have a cohesive line number runway. Right hand, so a collection had the looked like the so they they did it that would in my opinion, they were the most cohesive in terms of having little bits and pieces that were. Like elevated right, so that made sense to me, so therefore does make sense to have paper in metal, but I agree. I felt like metal was obviously the worst. They were like really blown away by Riach now don't get me wrong. was. Getting such like you should, you should be on. The runway is in Paris and I'm like what? Was Sloppy it. was you buying what? Do you. Do you read? Have you been to New York Fashion Week. Knowing. Person there. Who's been to your fashion? We guarantee it stacey and she. I don't know I can't remember actually. I think she probably compliment. Weiner ass umbrellas out that they were going to get ten minutes probably. It was just like what the Hell is going on here, also talk about our baked potato We have Boa who she's not serving fishy serving dish. She's got to start. Side was cheaper. Comparison okay. What we've now gotten from Boa, every single time is boo gag, Boo, gag, boob, gag, Vagina gag like. Literally what we've gotten from her every single time so I did agree with the judge saying like. Can you do something else because you've gotten in the top of your personality, you of have to start bringing on the runway, but more so I agree with that. I agreed that Lemons look was the best out of the three in the metal. I thought she looked beautiful, but I also do agree not did not look like a collection. It did not look like there was any kind of. Cohesive team things I do agree that they should have been the bottom and I think that Priyanka. and. Boa should have been the sing however. I also agree with the judges that the night looks though gorgeous costumes those are not high fashion. High fashion so I was not upset that the two of them are in the bottom i. don't like how they came at China me because I feel like. A lot of that was unwarranted, and I felt like was gas lighting to be perfectly honest with you. I felt like for the past couple of weeks. It's been like gas lighting critiques quote Unquote Toward Nomi. But and I I also didn't like how you Lona handled everything, and behind the scenes like all of that was a mess. I didn't like the critique about Jimbo, but I will also say this Jimbo is not a saint in this situation either because her team had a clear vision of what they wanted to do, she went the other way if I were alone in China me what I would have done. It said we're going to do it. We want throw her under the bus to the judges and say yeah. That looks great, but you know what she's not doing working as a team player. This is what our concept was. was. She's the one that ruined it and I would have stuck with it. Throw her under the bus because that's what she was willing to do to. You guys to get you guys to be her. So that's just my thoughts on the competition part of it. Yeah, I'm trying to to pull up, so we were supposed to a little behind the scenes fund information. We were supposed to record tomorrow, but my power went our yesterday's. My power went out and I was supposed to pull the Canada's. Clips, but I did not and then I. Forgot because I'm Super Professional. But but yeah, I mean I think I, co-signed. What a lot of you guys are saying, I, think that just if the goal was to create a high fashion line, I think that the plastic team definitely one that now who belongs in the bottom? How does I think a little bit up to interpretation? Because if you're thinking about like what looks were constructed the best, that's may be different than what is high fashion. Because maybe you could argue that like who the RASTA metal team more fashion there just also ugly, so you know it's just it's really hard. Paper was more high fashion Iq I. Get I get the costuming critique I. Do but just like the take on what? Were real clean and her nights look like that's. That part wasn't costing me to me like I felt like the deconstructed course it look. In the the middle part of what fans out the skirt and address I really. Like that very unconventional and I just. Shop, it just look what they did so much more work than than metal and I'm just I. It's really really off to me. I didn't get it. I also felt like. I think we also need to kind of take a step back and I don't know if the judge did this or not. In think about how easy it is to work with some of these materials, because it is a lot easier to cut paper than it is to cut metal right in the style that so. It's not surprising. Although was absolutely like mind blowing at the same time that Jimbo was able to do that awesome construction of her dress, but if she had meddled, there's no way she would have been able to do that. Intricate amount of detail and the timing that she had right in my opinion I. Maybe I'm wrong. I would love for judicial me if that's right or. I, part of it is taking advantage of the material that you're given right. She was able to with that with that. Whereas the team plastic created something very different, but But yeah, just just very. It was very interesting. I think that this was a cool challenge to do I love the design of it that they're doing another design challenge, so we're really I. think getting a little bit of a balance. Even though I guess you could say well the first episode of the divine, Challenge doing another one. It's only episode for but at the. The same time. You know I I. I didn't feel like it was too much. See me see me here. but you brought this up. which was the whole drama of what happened after the runway and team plastic Kinda of like talks about this. They're like the whole atmosphere just changed on. It was like as soon as the Queen's got judged came in like everybody was upset. I mean hurt. People hurt you right Jeffrey Boyer, but we Kinda. Laid it on thick, and they just went back into the the lounge, just took it out. I'm telling you. It Was Rough. It's like this is a turning point for this season for me. It was really interesting. The how earlier in the in the episode you see alone is making fun of people whether or not they can pull off the reluctance. She's in the bottom and she like I'm not I'm going to put it out there. Okay? She completely played up the victim. She made all about herself. She like when I think that I love the. Jimbo came right back at her. And What I don't like in. Here's what I don't like. If you agree with somebody, you don't have to enter the conversation and be kind of bitchy in jump pile on and somebody, but if you could say something like. This I I tend to agree with Jimbo in this situation I don't mean to. Make you upset or anything but like. Can we hear about what other people's critiques for life or something like that? Just because clearly everybody else felt the way the Jimbo dead, but only seemed like Jimbo zone, saying something so like if you feel strongly, jump in and say something because then. Might help alone like Guinness Sense of where she's at this competition and then the whole fact that she now goes on stage it goes. I can't do this like idea. This can't do this and then just turns out. It was a great lips thing. I don't know there were. There were a few people this season that are like alone. With like that, too like they were like hundred delusional and Kinda cringe worthy like bad in shape, and they're all about like alona. Had that whole thing about I came and I brought all these dresses, and then I get screwed on because of something I had designed. It was something like that. She said in this episode in L. is just like it was like nails chalk board you show you signed up for. You're not gonNA wear something you brought every week. Yeah, there's design challenges the. It works. Did you see season three? Talking Design Challenges. Put it up there. I think Priyanka in the confessionals. Alike you go off, Jimbo, you get. Really funny. I I would rather feel something when I'm watching reality, TV or bad I wanNA, feel something. That says about me, but like I. Want the dramas so I was actually really here for this episode, because of of the whole drama of it all with both the judging, and then also with this whole alone over says Jimbo. Nonsense I thought all of it yeah, it was just like really dramatic and fun and I think I mean forgotten fun according to my definition. And I think it sort of breaks this of feeling that maybe we've been having about Canada like. Great, it's all fun like okay kind was a delusional one blake. She has gone, and now we're getting so much more drama on that I think the rest of the season is going to be super fascinating. Yeah, I've said. This is a really big turning point for this show because a lot of us, I mean why Canada has like Canadians have this. Stereotype of being generally kind people right? Just like anybody else and they're going to. They're going to get mad. They get Sassy and feel like this is opening up like the fact that this is indeed a competition for all of them does not summer camp y'all or Summers! This is. This is. The real thing. Okay, so I'm excited to see what happens. I have to say going back to Jeffrey R Chapman. I felt a shift in him this past week like he was the eyeliner. Liner he literally smoked it out and said I'm going to be that bitch and. THAT BITCH! I'm just going to be a bitch. That's where I'm going to jail. Somebody like I saw argument online that was like. Oh, well, you know. Drag race has Michelle Visayan. She doesn't have a drag background. Actually Bitch. She does have a drag background she was. She is a product of the ball scene she was there to. Part of that in the eighties in the ninety S, so she has war to resume Jeffrey happened as to my knowledge lease. Wreck me if I'm wrong on that she did. She was all room. which incredible has anyone watch legendary? Legendary so. And? So okay, so the lip sync this week is alone versus Taino me which this is! What third time in the bottom, so I think a little bit of the writing was on the wall, but they did averill Levine's girlfriends, but I thought was was so fun here and then Taino me eventually gets sent home on. Do you think this was the right call? For the sheer fact that she was in the bottom times probably I, think that she. Alone in the lip sync allowed when she took off the little taxes and treated them like they're. They're pompoms. 'cause like the music video for girlfriend. I, think has a bit of a high school team so as I was like. Oh, you're tying it in. Here. But Yeah I mean it was sad to see go especially, we just lost two black wings back. Many. There is like there's like three in the entire cast. like knock an ally. That's a little rough because you know looking at the Queen's that are remaining, it's Kiara. Of. WHO's the only Black Queen? That's left So yeah, which yeah not. Not Great but at the same time like I think. Yes, she was the best choice. This time, he art. Show kept giving her so many opportunities I think because she's such a Big Star in Canada. But you know I mean the truth of the matter is. Is that at least according to the judges standards like she hasn't been performing? Yeah I think she's like a big name that came into it. She was probably one of the bigger names I think. Earn like Rita, Bega we're both the big names on, and she just ask her formed i. mean she was great i. feel like the Queen. She was like Miss Congeniality Mindy Queens I feel like. During our when she went home and everyone was crying, but she just hasn't brought it to that next level. It's kind of like a mayhem Miller a little bit. Broadway it and she has all the pieces of the puzzle to do it, and she's just not now Kiara. You guys mentioned earlier. Here is the dark horse for May. She's incredible and I have a feeling. She's GonNa make a run I have my money on the our. Kiara somebody that I felt like was unfairly judged. Last episode I thought that she was should have been in the top area when she was considered to be not as great, and I was like I did not lose her in the lip sync I thought she was one of the best ones so I kind of tend to agree with you on that one, Josh. Yeah, we talk about this often, but just because someone doesn't do well on drag. Race doesn't mean they're not a great drag queen and I think that that's a perfect example here. What Taino me that someone who is such a fantastic queen in her own right off of drag racing sometimes just doesn't necessarily translate. Well next week we're GONNA get snatched GAM. I'm probably way too excited. Snatch game has always been up and down and rough sometimes, but I'm curious to see what these Canadian Queens are GonNa do a snatch game and who they're going to end up doing impersonations of so we'll find out about that next week. Okay So this was so fun. I think we're going to go ahead and close things out here before we do I, want to plug the. We've been plugging charity every single week. This week is no different. We're going to be talking about the National Bailout Fund National Bailout Org can go on head on over to their website. There's actually a different link to donate. You can get there from national bailout dot org, so national bailout is a collective. It's black lead lack centered and it's all about. Of course like building, community and Taking the burden off of those who have been imprisoned and just. 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Episode Ten: This Is the End of the Decade

Titus & Tate

1:42:50 hr | 7 months ago

Episode Ten: This Is the End of the Decade

"Today's episode of Titus entailed is brought to you. Who cares what it's brought to you by? I don't I don't even care tate. I do you WanNa do it. I don't want to do IT I. I don't know if I have the energy. I need like five more minutes to gather myself after the worst sports week in my life I will take this over for today's episode of ties in tate is brought to you by someone who's GonNa come clean in from the ACC and the ACC is going to say as a fair objective viewer of College Football in the ACC in the south. We will say this Ohio Ohio state should have one that football game Mark Titus and I know you're upset about this. You got the College Football playoff and then you gotta stay verse West Virginia. We're going to talk about all this but I will say this is. This episode is brought to you. Don't have to objective. ACC football viewer. Who says my goodness if Dobbins doesn't have an injury you know some sort of tweak as they say day and if your team doesn't target Trevor Lawrence and get him all fired up that's not what I want to hear? Take what I wanna hear is what was it. Was it a catch and fumble. That's what I want to know. Was it catching phone bill. Or was it incomplete. Pat Slow motion says catch and Fumble Real John. Every motion says every motion. It's a tough. Toby started a a tough time. I I have the no. It's it's obvious what happened. I fully I. I took some time to digest and I was trying to land on what conspiracy theory. Because that's the thing is like all the people in Ohio state fans because holiday fans rightfully losing our minds we've got Dick's it's very frustrated about it and people are going in our state Ed's say like they're they're the worst all this stuff as though there's a single fan base in the world that would would you know in the final four of the football they get screwed into that re to that degree and tip there as is their fan base in the world if that happened in North Carolina. You're telling me North Carolina fans. It is tipped their cabinet like well. We tried our best boys. Good good to know. Every single fan base has been losing their minds and yet like for some reason. Everyone is this. Lafayette that'll how safe it's like they're the worst they're complaining. I know if it happened a vitam. I wouldn't complain like this bullshit. You all would complain like this. It was a fumble tate. And here's the conspiracy. I landed on. I like this one. I saw this. It makes a lot of sense. Yes the The the the officiating crew was from the SEC. Okay Clemson is from the south okay. It is it is well every every college football team that matters in this. This country is either in the south or Ohio state. Those are the only teams Go Back Notre Dame Ohio state everyone the south. And that's it you don't want stay set. The most soldiers the most union soldiers to the civil war per capita the number one state was Ohio. This goes all the way it back. This goes all the way back to the top two civil war there. Still Ulysses grant you have William tecumseh airline of the state seceded from the union versus Ohio. Baiocco the the the George custer all these guys all these union generals from Ohio. This goes all the way back to the civil war. The people in the south are still but heard about it and anytime they get a chance to screw Ohio. They're going to do it. And that's what happened in that game I just wish someone wig knowledge. I wish you'd be in from the south would just be like yeah. That's exactly what happened and I wouldn't feel so bad I'd be upset right but I I get it. I get it when when you know in twenty sixty four when they finally have a college football playoff game north of the Mason Dixon. Line for some reason I. I don't understand why that happened. Like why can't we have these games in Indianapolis Minnesota. I don't understand when that finally happens. We're just GONNA return the favor we're going to dick the south over and it's going to be great and yeah I can't wait and I'm I'll probably be dead by then but it'll be fun so anyway let's go ahead and call it what it is. It's the new civil war it's Ohio Savers Clemson and football. What it is it? Is it alre names all the time. But he can't be the Red River rivalry anymore. You know this is the new civil war this is Ohio savers Clemson and football So congratulations that's what we're brought brought to you by the Newest College football to one silver lining is like I will not feel bad now. Because we've we've built up the Karma now to where House football we can you know. I think this is payback for the game against Miami back in the day with the pass interference because everyone was throwing that my face which I was wondering how Steve Fan back then so I don't even care about that but this is now for me. This is like I have this one in the chamber so now when like Ohio state next time we're in the playoff we're gonNA hopefully the rest like screw. Screw the team. We're playing and then I'm not gonNA feel bad about it. It'd be like listen after we went through Clemson. I don't feel bad about it at all Anyway that's the football team. I don't WanNa talk anymore trying to we'll just move along. I've tried to move along. It is it is December thirty first. It is New Year's Eve we today. I WanNa talk to you about about first of all I want to talk about the Kentucky Louisville game the the greatest rivalry and all of college basketball number one rivalry It's it's the rivalry that America cannot stop talking about. Everyone circles there the Kentucky Louisville game on their counter every year. It says this is the biggest game in sports That happened again in Spoiler Alert Kentucky. Who saw who? I want to talk about that a little bit. But then we're going to dive into some all decades stuff which I'm really excited about because If you know anything about this program we do not take this quite as seriously earliest other media outlets at the same time we did do all decade lists. So we're we're GONNA we're going to devote a portion of the show that is there anything else we need to tell. The people are GonNa talk to people that we are coming coming back with a full on PAC twelve update. This is back to your programming. A PAC twelve basketball about what's going on in the PAC twelve the fact that they only have two teams in the AP top twenty eighty five and also talk about the growing PAC twelve. Because there's a lot of people that are complaining about the West Coast other basketball teams not being mentioned and they're also upset that they think that I think et Steve Fisher is still the coach at San Diego State. They're upset about this Martinez and as you know on this program. We both know this Fisher is technically still the coach because nobody nobody. Nobody knows I tried to give nobody. Nickname come flying Dutchman but nobody knows Steve Fisher's names so it's fine by the end of the season season by season the PAC twelve update is going to be you versus just people on the West basically the PAC twelve updated said fuck it in civil war civil wars against the West love it all right. We have a ton to get to. We'll get it's all of it but for Nick. Richards is back baby. All right like I said. It is New Year's Eve happier happy New Year. Happy New Year's what's the place in afternoon. You're happy new year. Yeah having to everybody buddy resolution yes resolution. According to my father who I just saw back North Carolina is to get in shape. And that's that's what I've been forced to do. Addict resolution is headed down for my. They're not even resolutions their demands. It's like that's what I realized. This is my version of festivus. I go home and I'd get told what I I have to do for the New Year. for twenty twenty to be a better person has to be a better me in shape because no one would believe I could ever play sports with the way I look right now. this is is this is my resolution. This is what I hope to do And I hope that just you know have a good twenty twenty year you know at this point does your dad. Does he like slap your belly. Is it that Oh you come up. And do they look a little hefty food. You know what I mean. He's like oh he's a Pumpkin Pie. You know what I mean. It's things like that so that's that's where I met with all that that's my twenty. Twenty resolution is to get in shape into prove my father that I can't get in shape again because I'm going to be you know I always told you a you know and I joked about being in the twenty seven club for a long time in my life and I'm about to turn twenty seven so I have to be in good shape because I get like future photos. You know what I mean. He can't be like fat right. Because everyone's like of course you went down. You know you gotta be like yeah you want the most. Yeah Yeah you you WanNa you WanNa go you want to join the twenty seven club because you like you. Oh you overdosed on like you you you make a party and way to harass. Yes yes you look great. You don't you don't want to join you. Don't want to join the twenty seven club because your cholesterol do. That's that's definitely not or you can't find your spine. You know what I mean. You're spinosaurus integrating those two reasons to go out poorly Yeah so that's my resolution. It was what about you. Mark Davis my resolution is the same as it was last year and I'm going to actually stick to it this year because I have. I have a way to hold myself accountable. My the resolution is to not swear on the PODCAST. Oh Oh my goodness you are you now. I have the puck guessing I am. I'm trying to I've realized though also so this is this is probably a head down from my parents. Well but I've I've realized that I swear will record the podcast more than I do. Even related real life cuss up much. Yeah I would agree with. Yeah but for some reason I get the microphone in front of my face and I just want to complain about how how state was fucking screwed. I can we point out out though when you do you and I are both stand up comedy fans and we're used to like kind of energy on a microphone so we WANNA go into it and just lay down. So I'm Eddie Murphy. Yes you're just letting loose Steve Martin totally back. Here's what hold myself accountable. So I'm finding swearing wearing 'cause like I still. I still think you should be able say an ass and you know I'm not I'm not a a a a non in the mid West. That's like super strict strict about stuff but I'm trying to the F. Word. GD That's a bad one trying to get that one out you get rid of that one. Yeah so here. Here's what I'm GonNa do and you can hold me accountable. I guess the listeners can as well I want to start a swear jar for the PODCAST and I'M GONNA put a dollar. Maybe I should bump it up to more than a dollar. We'll see how it goes but I'm GONNA start with the dollar and At the end of the season all the money I am going to take the money and give it to the one thing that I hate the most in this world which Greg Oden candidate so I'm going to use the buddy jar to book. Greg Ode Cameo where Greg just basically laughs at me for being an idiot and not being able to control my tongue so that is my resolution And and I I need an accountability partner. So I'm putting it on someone else to hold me accountable but there but this says I will say this is the last podcast. The yourself allowed to cuss on this one. I will say this Greg Owens came you account with him talking to you about accountability is probably the best way way to handle use saying bad words. You know what I mean. That's making the jokes. That Greg you know didn't have the ability to be available. Didn't have availability well. He has accountability and he's ready to lay it down. You know what I mean so this is all good news so great twenty twenty ahead but before we get the twentieth century we just talk about quickly the fact that in two thousand Nineteen Bill. Murray Harry is doing promos for Louisville basketball playing against Kentucky in a meaningless week of college basketball. This is a down period of college. No it's not. The greatest rivalry in sports was played tate. What do you mean and it makes its could talk? Yeah okay so nick. Richards went to Kentucky right because he liked the color. Blue and bill. Murray's Promo so he said this is read verse blue as if that is you know what I mean like what those are. However percentage of teams are red and blue or have some sort of variation of red and blue? Oh your team is read. My team is blue technically. He says that his if this separates this rivalry from every other rival Duke and Carolina hate each other so much smarter they both were actually think it seems like they're on the same side Let me just say this. And then Bill Murray going just eighty miles apart and then you then at the any goals at the best college basketball rivalry out. They're mad dog chimes in and says you know this is all nice and well but this is definitely not the best everyone in Kentucky. There's all these people coming there like like. I Have Family there with the Louisville pull for Louisville. We're not playing. But I hate duke or a hate Indiana eight some other. You know what it'd be. It's very similar to like what Carolina fans would say if Bill Murray did a promo because Luke Mary's the head coach at NC state and they said this is the greatest basketball rivalry in the state eight. You know what I mean. It'd be like no this is not. This is Duke Carolina. I'll play I WANNA I don't understand. Where did this come from? Why is this happening again? So first of all I wanna I WANNA talk about the game just really quickly just to get out of the way so we can do. Our journalist covering war was horrible. He his shot selection is terrible by my take that he's he's trying to prove something for them. Be a hundred percent. It's still. It's still in the oven cooking a little better. It's starting to Brown the edges and almost ready to take that thing out of the oven because My God what a what a horrible performance and then on the flip side I know Louisville took it to overtime. All that Kentucky was always going to win at no point that game like especially especially I know. Louisville came back What's his name Kimball? Yeah that's what I was thinking of Campbell. The point guard. I've played really well. I thought he gave he gave Louisville good minutes Enoch was great. He's he's been he to me is better best player the most consistent or best yapper maybe. They're just they're just straight up. Best Player All season every time I watch him play. I love him but I always felt like Kentucky was going to win partially because I know the history of this rivalry But but to the larger point like we talked about like When when Ohio State beat Kentucky in Vegas and Kentucky Hockey fans are acting like the sky is falling and I was like please spare made pump the brakes like this happens in college basketball? Your team will lose a couple of rows. Sometimes it doesn't mean you're season is over her This is this is why I mean Kentucky You Maxi Against Louisville was unbelievable. This this is the Kentucky that people thought like the Kentucky that got to to be ranked number one. This is the Kentucky that coming into the season people had high hopes for When when Maxie is playing as well as you Louisville when Ashton Hagans is who didn't even score score that much but like still controls the game because he so good defensively and had eight assists When quickly is giving you good minutes off the bench all Kentucky really needs is like some sort of consistency from those guys? You don't need all three of them to play. Well just like one of the three to show up and it's it's Hagans is pretty much always going to show up whether he shows up scoring or not. He's going to make an impact on the game. So basically you just need like Max gear quickly to give you fifteen points and you need the big and the Kentucky big men to just not be horrible. Because that's been a problem for this year there have been times. Yes they've been horror. Richard are just flat out horrible And as long as they're not horrible Kentucky is every bit as good as any team in this country and that proved to be True Against Louisville and Kentucky. You guys are fine as Kentucky Fan tweeted at me the nothing. Nothing is a every how they said it was just like nothing cures their ills. Quite like the Game Against Louisville. Because it's a free one yes Which which brings me to the point we really WanNa talk about? Is this rivalry as a whole tate. I could not believe it and the reason that stood stood out to me is because I I think Cheer for Louisville in this game every year. I don't necessarily care either way but I would say like most neutral college basketball fans. You probably gravitate torch cheering against Kentucky just like you gravitate towards cheering. It's Duke. You know like those are the two titans you WANNA see upsets. You want to see the the big guys go down so I find myself as the game is is being played. I I generally am hoping that Louisville Win Not that I'm a Louisville fan in any way but that's just kind of like Yeah Cool Louisville one this and as they were once again being You know they. They weren't dominated but again I never really felt like they were going to win. Even when they send it to overtime New Kentucky was GONNA win over time. I get on Wikipedia and I started looking up. When is the last time Louisville? One this thing because I can't even remember really like what what what what's the. What's the deal here? and Oh my God how staggering is the state. I guess some stats for you. On the Louisville I'm already because I have stats as well and this is why this is the argument. It's a it's an easy argument. Play the stats out mark. Titus and I tweeted this out and I WANNA revisit it first of all Kentucky leads the all time series thirty seven to suggest they didn't play for longtime because People Kentucky will tell you they hated aided each other so much that they didn't play I as an outsider looking in I feel like they didn't play because like it. It didn't really matter. It doesn't matter. Pattern of Louisville has never won three games in a row versus Kentucky. Ever ever in the history of the university and the history of the basketball programs never forever ever has Louisville one. Three Games in a row Kentucky has won three games in a row nine different times having one on when they play Saturday's game missile. After winning on Saturday. That's now three in a row for Kentucky for the Ninth Time that they've won three in a row Kentucky has five different streaks of four plus wins Louisville has won this game take place in Lexington. This would have been the sixth win. All Time for Louisville ever in Lexington Kentucky. They've won five times in Lexington in the history of the program again. Going back to God knows win. Kentucky has won three games in the KFC center alone which was built in two thousand ten. You you can take take here. Here's my favorite one. You can take any five game. Stretch any five game stretch in the history of this rivalry and Louisville's one three out of those five only twice. Yes they have never ever won three out of four ever so not only have they not one three in a row. They've never even want three out of four. They've never went to the lost one and then won. The next never even won three out of four for this is not a rivalry John. Calipari is eleven to two versus Louisville. He's six home he's too and own the NCAA tournament Papa John Meanwhile is like a Louisville Guy. He'd flipflops that Kentucky like that would if Duping Carolina's the standard you have like a guy like Who the WHO is the the from the hangover a Ken? Whatever the doctor actress Kim Jong? Yes yeah who famously has degrees from both universities but is Diane Duke Guy Carolina. Go to hell because he understands. What a rivalry is me? Ma Papa. John's is he forty pizzas and thirty days and flip flop and back and forth between Louisville Kentucky because again it is not a rivalry tate. I had Louisville Fans Chirpin at me when I tweeted the stats out on twitter. Like so it's a little one-sided right now it's not one sided right now it's one sided always it is always always always been one-sided 'cause they're pointing out like does that mean. Ohio State Michigan the rivalry since Ohio state is beauty Michigan so much football and so that I say you can go back in time and find a moment in time and it's really not that long. It was in the nineties where Michigan was wiping the fourth Ohio state. You can do this with any rivalry any rivalry that's ever existed. That's one sided. Like you could really go back and find. Even it's eighteen hundred something like you'll find in a moment in time where like the other team beat the hell out of the team that's currently dominating you cannot find that in this rivalry tate. There's never never have the words been spoken from a Kentucky Fan. My God I hate how much keep losing to Louisville that has never in the history of Kentucky basketball since the the the dawn of time those words have never come out of a Kentucky fans mouth breath. I don't understand how this is a rivalry. Louisville was on the other side of the Ohio River it was in southern Indiana and and the schools were eighty one miles apart and it was not in Kentucky. No one one would give a single shit about this and that is my rant. I don't understand how this became a rivalry other than their to schools that have decent basketball programs in a state with no professional sports. And I guess that makes it a rivalry cool but at some point Louisville you have to be Kentucky. I'm sorry dig. Vital ranked this as the third best rivalry in all of college sports. Okay that is not number one anyway. It's literally the worst I wanted to be. Though what we're talking about. If he will be number one big vital for him to say that it is. The third best rivalry says is a lot. They only put each other twelve times between nineteen thirteen and nineteen eighty-three Mark Titus and they played in one thousand nine hundred in the tournament. It wasn't even a schedule game. So how it makes me right out the argument like Oh they they play so rarely it makes it worth more and to that. I say it's worth worth more in Kentucky Kentucky still. It doesn't matter like okay. So if this game is worth like five Games will kentucky the five Games then they win the Kentucky always wins And I looked up so I tried to find I made it my mission to find a worse rivalry and I. I decided that the the standard ended for being a an actual rivalry. It has to have a wikipedia page. You have to be able to go to wikipedia and see every single result laid out. You know what I'm saying if it doesn't have a page it's not a it's I didn't count as a rivalry and all I could find. Were these these are the only ones that compare Notre Dame vs navy somehow is a rivalry football where they have a page and it has all the listings. Notre Dame leads the rivalry all time seventy seven to thirteen very very one sided much. More one side of the Kentucky at be that as it may tate navy has also never won three zero against Notre Dame but they have won five of eight before. There's one stretch like I forget what it was. Probably back in the fifties or something navy one five out of eight games against Notre Dame that is Never Louisville's never done that against Kentucky. The same thing is true of the The bedlam thing. Oklahoma for is Oklahoma State Football Oklahoma Beats Oklahoma state every single year. But there was one time when a moment in time where Oklahoma state won five out of eight that has never happened with Louisville The only thing that the only thing that came came up that was Worse Than Louisville Kentucky was West Virginia versus Marshall had a had a football series called. The Friends of the COBOL. Kidding this is this is is literally what it was called and it's it's defunct now. They did not renew the contract. But was Virginia's played Marshall and football eleven times had its own wikipedia. Kapiti page West. Virginia won every single time. They're eleven when they beat the hell out of Marshall and someone was like do we really need to keep doing this and I think they just stop playing so there you go. That's where the Kentucky Louisville rivalry rivalry falls. It is somewhere between Notre Dame vs navy and West Virginia Mercer Versus Marshawn. Football the idea that this is like a great rivalry in sports. I don't understand it's just because two good programs are playing. Each other does not make it a robbery. At some Point Louisville has to rip off like three or four months in a row and we have to. We have to point out of Louisville had to vacate gate all of its victories for the twenty eleven. Two Thousand Twelve Twenty twelve twenty thirty twenty forty twenty four team in two thousand fifteen seasons those are one hundred twenty three wins folks and and there were some big news against Kentucky that are not going to get counted in that period of time because again Louisville do not go to the final four apparently in two thousand twelve even though we thought they did and they apparently did win the title in two thousand thirteen even though we thought they did we always saw it so I guess is not there. I also want to point out that they have this bluegrass sports commission the BSE and they named the the Most Valuable Player in the Game Between Kentucky and Louisville and that award started Mark Titus in two thousand ten. And did you know who won the first of the work also and be like I mean it's not like Carolina gives out an award you know when they play that game like who the MVP of the game is. And I looked up. Josh Harrelson is the Josh Josh. What he three and fourteen? How's your guest? Jasser awards. Josh Harrelson in a rivalry. I don't know if it's a great rivalry but it's kind of fitting I don't I listen. I get it Louisville. I I don't mean to. I'm not putting on Louisville one of the programs grams in college basketball. Yeah these are titans these are two. I weighed in Kentucky Louisville. Twenty six bet for most wins You know all time like that's a great program. Louisville is a very elite program. No no question about it as is Kentucky makes sense for this to be a rivalry. I understand why people when I package it as a rivalry. But I'm telling you at some point let it go last. Winter's Day they have to let it go. There's only it is not the rivalry. It is like a game that it is a non conference game. That happens every year. That's all it is. That's not a rivalry. It might be out of my in the new decade. It may be a rivalry story. You know what I mean. I don't know I would love for that to a hundred years ago. It may have been around for when they were playing each other. Every single year was winning some games I would honestly. It would be so cool if this was like an actual rivalry Kentucky Fan like if Kentucky Fans Hate Actually Hated Louisville. And they'll say they hate Louisville but they're lying to themselves they don't Hate Louisville they hit Louisville fans. That's is what I'm saying is like no Kentucky Fans Only Louisville Because Louisville fans are loud and boisterous that are saying like. We're every bit as good as you and Kentucky's like sit down little bro. Yeah that's like that's why they hate but but Kentucky Fans Do not hate Louisville players because they have nothing to hate. There's no Kentucky Fan. That's like my God. I really hate those that that that that one senior class at Louisville that just wreck does does for four years. It's never happened. They don't care they're just like whatever and we. We beat their ass every year. So who cares. I don't know. SMU It it's like. It makes a lot of sense as a rivalry. I would love for it to actually be a reverie but it's not there yet and we're all rooting for you. Good Luck to Louisville and Kentucky. I hope if you have a rivalry some day but one day it's basically NC state North Carolina in. It's like one day. Maybe maybe if they're derails falloff maybe it'll be we'll we'll see what happens We should also point out the papa. John like you said has completely gone to the dark side. And he is sitting directly behind John Kerry and I just wanted to segue into Ohio state. Say this way and say seeing Papa. John's name how Jon Callard Perez John Calbury made Biglou nation stand up and then we'll nick. Richardson an wanted. Basically seal the Game Against Louisville and then watching urban Meyer been down and stare into the abyss in curse your team into a loss to prove that he. Yeah I to see see those urban I was like Oh shit here though. Just being so close to those games like right behind the action and such pivotal moments. It was shocking to see over the Christmas. Break a honestly felt Velika twilight zone or Black Mirror. Just some weird as if I was manifesting these things to happen because I was talking to my dad I was like I hope Papa. John's at the building and then paying over there is in blue right behind. Calbury like staring right out of into a soul and Urban Meyer. That doesn't make any sense. Why Urban Meyer should be that game? Right he works at Fox. Yeah I don't you know he's supposed to be with his family's not supposed to be around football and then they show him or the most important play in the gate. Hey what did they cut away that. That is some Harry Potter like evil witchcraft type stuff. You're not going to give me to talk about again tate. I told you what anyway. We'll talk about the Ohio state basketball. That was the the segue into state talk not. I don't WanNa talk about that either. I WANNA say the one. The the one thing I can save the Kentucky Louisville rivalry in my is the one thing that can instantaneous containing snap of a finger Louisville doesn't need a win any any games at all. I will declared a rivalry is if Ashley Judd. Next Year Sitting Behind Louisville's bench wearing red. Ah Yes that's a Ashley. Judd is wearing red. She's been exiled from the Kentucky Fan base for for what was it like Kentucky fans. Were trying to get free chicken chick-fil-a sandwich. Yeah just because they wanted them to miss. The that was the reason. Thomas went into the crowd in that. You know Wizard sixers game when he was in the guys like do get so man. I'm sorry he's like well. Why get messed up? I will take back. Everything I said about Kentucky Louisville game if Ashley Judd Declares Players Yourself a Louisville Fan I will say it is officially on and I'm all in on the game next year but until then Louisville you have to win some of these games. I'm sorry that's just the way we don't have to do. We have to talk about the West Virginia House state. We don't have you can talk about. I'll just listen. Go ahead basically. I'll have to say is shoob way is only the third McDonald's all American to play a West Virginia. I had had no idea that was my favorite stat of the day And watching this game. The Ohio State Buckeyes. I felt for them because the Cleveland crowd was a West Virginia xenia crowd. And it's not really their fault. It's not the buckeyes fault. It's basically the fault of the big twelve and the fact that these West Virginia mountaineers fans all they WANNA do is see their team play a and C huggy bear live in action and they can't fly all over God's creation to to go to Oklahoma or Texas and all these different places but they. WE'LL DRIVE TO CLEVELAND. Ohio and I will say that was the best cavs atmosphere. They've had since maybe ever that places Rockin Okay I I'm. I'm very proud of the West. Virginia Mountaineers I feel very bad for Chris. Holdman in the Buckeyes well. But I will say the West Virginia's a real contender the big twelve. You know what I mean. I'm very excited about it west. Virginia's good West. Virginia's Good West Virginia. Good Okay we get it But let's let loose sight of the fact that that Kalayaan had the flu. Okay in this game. He was sick. no one seemed to care you didn't you there. I don't know why they played the game to be honest with you but they did He was a troop replayed through it. He's getting his appendix out apparently And all that is to say tate. Ohio state still undefeated with the full at full strength full straight and have dewayne WASHINGTON ASHINGTON AT MINNESOTA. We didn't have Carl young at one hundred percent. He had the Flue Gas West Virginia. So we're still undefeated so US San Diego State and Auburn three hundred feet of teams left congrats. Thus let's talk about another undefeated team and let's get into the PAC twelve update mark titus. Can I get in the past Ohio state. We'll get past our own story absolutely not GonNa talk about Yale Basketball North Carolina. We don't need to talk about that. We don't need to talk about Duke You know in having their problems early in the first effort is going to talk about the PAC twelve and west coast basketball. It's Tuesday and it's the last twenty nineteen and I have to start with our boys Shaw Miller in Arizona. Arizona was all last week Mark Titus and they still spot in the eight. The people there still live lost. How do they lose? I don't understand Shawn Miller falls a spot. naple there's only two teams like I said in the PAC twelve that are in eight people. Oregon is number four and that begs the question to me. Mark Titus is Peyton Pritchard right now the non consensus. I don't think there is a consensus. Is he the Non Consensus National Player of the here. Just because they're a top five team and I guess he's the bell. I guess he's the best player in the country. So that the order top and can't win at top Dayton loss to Colorado. He can't win. We went over like we love. We both love top. And but you know like it's an uphill battle for a guy who's not national TV all the time. So he's he basically had to go undefeated defeated or come close to it. You can't lose Colorado in the one Even though he's balling out good for him War I'm out on like Oh probably still be an all American but he can't win it in my eyes that's right and who else we dotson was our favorite. That's where we liked Richard who else did I have on my list. I forget I'm forgetting somebody WHO's the fifth guy but it's it's it's got to be. Yeah Pritchard Dotson right now is basically I think is GONNA be Pritchard. So that's that's the update. That's a top five team that we cared around the west coast. That's the undefeated team on the West Coast. And that is of course the aspects of San Diego state the team. That has not coached by Steve Fisher even though it is basically pseudo coached by Steve Fisher's energy behind the bench And that is like masqueraded through Brian. Dutcher who is a good coach and San Diego State is undefeated. They are basically the crown of West Coast basketball at this point. Everyone is very amped about the fact that they are the best in the west coast. So that's the San Diego State Update and people are also pointed to the fact that Arizona has the Klay their for their first PAC. Twelve game against Bobby Hurley in Arizona. State okay so that sounds like a law. That sounds like a loss I. I don't know this is this is all PAC twelve thought the same Arizona State team that like the the guy scored a game and one of them came off. The bench ended forty-three SORTA state team that lost like ninety one fifty six or whatever. It was To Saint Mary's not too long ago. Yes that's a that's A. That's your saint. Mary date In all this Saint Mary's he's okay. Yeah Yeah Okay okay. I'm sticking with me. We're all on the west coast. We're just rolling around the West Coast. Washington was in the AP poll last week. Remember this Washington and a good team that we both think has a chance to make a little run in the PAC twelve. They lose the Keats Houston in Hawaii. So now they're out of the people again. Only two teams eight people people from the Pack Twelve San Diego State considered a pack twelve team now a West Coast seem obviously. Byu At team that we both love Mark Pope two votes the best team. That doesn't win the best team in the country. That doesn't everyone thinks that they're really good team. They just don't have the winds approve it They have two votes which was great For Byu so they're right on the verge you and I. It was a hundred percent sure that it was and also I have to point out that the team with the most votes that is not in the top twenty. Five Live is also a pack twelve team and that is of course the Colorado buffaloes who basically just be like you said Dayton and OBI top and a team that we think is a top fifteen eighteen team at one point Senate top five team but again there west of the Mississippi Colorado is probably a top five team west of the Mississippi because this again is the PAC twelve update. That's all I really got Martinez. I don't I don't really know what else to tell you. I ve scoured around the Internet to see about any else that matters. I did watch two thousand eight ESPN ESPN flashback. Like before I was going to the Hornets game on Friday In Charlotte and I'm done with my cousin WHO's We're we're watching the two thousand eight. Ucla Game Darren Collison Russell Westbrook. Steve Lavishness calling the game. And there's a guy behind him with a sign that says Washington State's next basketball coach and Steve Lavon Evan. I can't hear the audio but I could just watch body language. As he's doing this whole thing I tweeted out. You are also somehow watching this same game at the same time because we're we're obviously just we need more hobbies or other things that went on in our lives because we're watching these games and it was like a broadcast of a pastime where I would would love to do a pack twelve update. You know what I mean if I could do a pack up they were talking about. Kevin love outlet passes and Russell Westbrook not making sense as a two guard but also definitely maybe better than Bare Darren Collison but I'm not really sure he possibly could be and then also. I forgot about Josh ship. You know what I mean like one of the classic Josh Towered Three someone that you really like and just kind of forget about in the passage of time for whatever reason so I'm watching this whole game having a great time California some out winning this game. I don't even know the coach of California. Is I know that Mark Fox has no currently the coach but hasn't watched in two thousand eight. I can't remember my mind Jones. And he's like home. We gotta wrote his own you know and it just gave me good feelings about the PAC twelve overall and again nothing really happened in the PAC. Twelve over over break because again. It's Christmas time. Nothing's really going on. But that's his best. Thank you hit. Fullerton Fullerton Lou beating Ucla. I I will say this about UCLA. We're going to go to the. Here's our pack. Twelve update real. We're we have two tickets Brought to you by keys and we're going to go to the UCLA A USC game again that we went to last year. The last home game in Paulie last show a game that Jalen hands it gave winter against USC last year right. He hit like a forty foot. Wasn't it was it. It was a dagger it wasn't like a game winner like they were up by five or something and he hits like three from like forty feet at the end of the shock. That's how I remember. I don't know if it's true. No no one can. Yeah I was thinking about looking and I was like no. I don't want to do that. So am I shot. It was the chicken. Scott you right. It was occur we said we said. Hi Josh Rosen and he was shit talk at USC players the entire game. Yes so Kevin. Puerto Junior. Josh Rosen. Whereabout the fight which was great? We're like man Josh Rosen. He might be a good quarterback. We like lever. This guy we were. We weren't quite on that one. That's all right maybe next year. There's there's still some time he was. He did not seem throw a football. That's the one thing I didn't sell. He was just you just smashing beers and talk and share. which is what you wanted to see from this island? WHOA before the seasons up we have to get We have to sprinkle this a little flavor into the PAC twelve update we have to go to a to watch Lebron did you age. Kid Play Syra Canyon. Yes yeah we got to go to Syracuse and sprinkle that in the PAC twelve update. At some point we get. We should probably get on that because like high school basketball always ends quicker than you realize like probably starting the state tournament next week or something Yeah Yeah they'll be done by mid February is like that. Yeah we gotta we gotta be seems to like like sneak up on her All right that's good. Update I really am going onto the PAC twelve. That's all I can say. Mark Davis like people will be number one. That's a big. I mean at this point you know what I mean. I'm almost putting them above west coast basketball. I'm putting them as a placeholder Blueblood for this year because everyone is so down so Gonzagas and Blueblood Talk Ken's Aga's like like the Vatican in Italy it's like its own it's like it's yes exactly of has its sovereign its own sovereign state. It's in the West Coast. It's it's it's district. Yeah it's it's his own yes it does its own things. It has its own electoral votes in college basketball. It also a a cut. Italy's a race was at the Stanford Kansas game and was sitting on the bench basically And I don't really understand. I don't know what the point of that was. Obviously she likes Stanford and everything that was cool but I think she went to Stanford Stanford. But I'm just saying or are they trying to hire. I'd just look scouting like Kansas in trouble with the incidentally Martinez as I don't know if you've heard this condoleeza was there to like you know send a threat you know what I mean. It's Kinda like what mob bosses would do they send a guy to Kinda come Rome Scout Your Business. I I think they're watching bill self to Kinda give them a little. Don't play with us. Bill you know this is not a game you gave. If you gave Condoleeza Rice Ice Dukes roster from last year does she finish above five hundred. Yes a hundred percent. Condoleeza Rice takes team from last year to the final four. I think so I I would agree with that. I think she does because you know what kind of a rice isn't gonNA play zone Mark Titus. You know what I mean. She's GONNA press she's not gonNA play man she's GonNa Say Zion you're wearing Jordan's you know you're not going to be wearing nikes. Were these hyper dunks ripping your shoes. You Wear Jordan's you have nice shoes on. You'RE GONNA win titles awesome. That sounds great and whole career is different coach K.. Did Not Care About Zion. And that's my that's my all decade. I thought take. Let's get this out of the way. My my thought of the decade is coach K.. Does Not care about Oh all right. Well let's let's get to. Let's take a break. We're we're GONNA come back. We're going to rip through all decade stuff. This is the last day of the decade. We have to put a big bow on it. Because that's what you do when you create content. Is You find like things like this to this point stuff like this to to argue over. So that's where we're going to do. 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I left it up to you. I said I WANNA I WANNA do it all decades something but I don't want it to be boring and just you know here's my I player of the decade and all that I mean we could. We could do that at the very end. I guess we can argue over whatever. I WanNa have some fun with it and I left it up to you. You email. Email me all your categories so I will let you run point you explain what the categories are y. You pick them all that kind of stuff all right here. It goes Mark Titus first and foremost all decade. DOC ID tough is Aronie us on all accounts right. We both agree on this. Yeah and trying to compartmentalize an entire ten year period and saying this moment was this version of this was better than that because of this thing and data. It's all subjective and it's very funny to see how how much group thing can really leak all around in in the sphere of college basketball the sphere of media in fear of conversation right. So let's just say that up front front. So this is the all decade version of everyone wants to be right but there is no right answer so everyone is trying to give the same answer as so therefore they are right and so for us. I was like. Let's just come up with a bunch of ridiculous categories because this is a ridiculous premise. And let's just have fun with it and it all started in my mind when I was a coach Calipari a period press conference last week and he brought up the idea that he basically invented position lists basketball. and Ah you know He. Basically you know implied that to everyone in the room that he created that and I thought to myself I category for the all decade category and I love like the in game little thing so my favorite thing. That always happened was the pontiac game changing performance and in that same spirit. I wanted wanted us to figure out. What was the Pontiac? Game Changing Game Plan of the decade because coach cow okay believes that he invented position Lewis Basketball and also he used a a platoon system to basically show that he created position was basketball and he had the depth to have to quote unquote starting fives. So that was my in my in my pontiac. Game Changing game plan the decade coach cows platoon system and positions as basketball tied to that as he says would be my vote for the game changing agent game plan in the decade and also hold on is the thought is the thought that he he's arguing that the platoon system was position list. Because that's the exact opposite. Oh He platoon system just he was A. He was arguing that basically he had two game changing game plans that have basically ripple through the world of college basketball his first one when he didn't even mention because it is a known thing which is the platoon system. We all know the platoon system. Everyone's like coach House. First person has ever done that even though of course it was done in in the past people have done it. I'm sure the Washington generals did it. You know against the Harlem Globetrotters at one point. Yeah it's called hockey coach cal. It's called line changes you ever heard of it. It's not that hard. No Cornell Cornell runs the platoon system right. Isn't the scores like a thousand points. They they'd bring five guys in and out they invented but I will give it to cal Calvin one and done to the. Here's the here's the The the the small brain take you say Calvin at one and done and then the galaxy brain take doc. Is You fall off that thought by saying with the one Wagner and it blows Oh yes two thousand and two. They're like when you say Calvin. Yeah what do you say Calvin the done. They think you're talking about John Wall. You're not you're talking about the one way. And then you say Marcus Camby than their heads like explode again they go where. Where is Marcus Camby? Now I should say he invented Calvin and one and two and three and four in veteran. Oh he the idea of of players going MBA. That was that was his idea. So for me. That's why so coach cal. One and done is not a game plan of this decade for coach that was his previous decade so for me next. Nominee in this category is coach K.. One and done coach K. invented. Yes yes he did he did. He visited this ticket. He got kyrie Irving and he said I tried to. We tried to do like an Edison. Tesla thing where he he's episode Jack All your ideas pass them off as myself and and try to race you from history and Yeah Good Shit. So are these just ripping through your nominees. They're my nominees nominees and then and then I wanted to see if you had it will be we can just keep throwing out. These are my top two that I had marked and I was going to basically see if you wanted to argue over these and then I also have Rick Patino plausible deniability as my third plausible deniability is a great one. That would be my pick But I had so. Do you WanNa make a pick or do you want me to go by pick is going to be happy. You're pigs or after your nominee. Yes all right okay. I have one nominee and one pick and this is the most I said Galaxy brain earlier earlier so did use that references. The most galaxy brain thing I've ever heard of my game plan of the decade is Graham couch not ranking. Just you see uh-huh a people would last December those are the top three teams in the country. And he didn't have him in his top twenty five and then he comes on our show. Because I tweeted out of House I was a I was just being a jackass. You Care to discuss on the pod. He's like absolutely and now we have to have him on and we call him and he explains it to us and I gotta save except over. It's been over a year now and my brain is like nothing has ever made more sense than Graham couch not ranking these teams because his rationale was is that they have not played a road game. And you don't actually know what college basketball team is until they play on the road Just it blew my mind then it blows my mind now. All this mad came on our show tate. If you remember this. He said he's actually trying to get rid of his. As though that was that was the funniest part of the conversation like he's he's defended readied his stands for like thirty minutes long. We talked to him and at the very end. He's like to be honest with you. I'm trying to get rid of this photo. I don't even fucking want it and we're like why I really don't actually care about this vote and it's you it's Kinda WanNa get rid of it. And he had so much thought behind it. And he's totally right with the Angolan. Yes that is a great plan of the deck. which funny so I checked? The do doesn't have a vote now. He got rid of its He. Does it actually vote so That was my game plan on a decade because what I remembered that As I was prepping for this hit me and I was like. There's no other answer like the the audacity to do that and not only do that. But like take the onslaught of people that they are ripping him apart. That he's doing it for clicks for attention and all that kind of stuff and then my man just sticks his chin out in his. I know I have my principles. I'm sticking to the kiss my ass. That's all of you and weirdly enough. Because he's like so he's he's he's got like such a clear point of view he's waiting to be over and I think as more time goes by vise. I'm buying into the idea of not ranking teams in the Tiller Plan Road game so that is my came out of the decade for sure. Congratulations Graham couch. I mean that is a pretty I mean that was out of nowhere where to and to think about. It might be my walk off the decade for him to do that and then lose his vote in the last like his last mark on the game. That's like Michael Jordan. One thousand nine hundred status like that's Leave the game on top. Congrats should've just quit. He just quit that. Vote like you should have not waited till this year. He should've voted voted again to reiterate it was the top three teams. It wasn't like three really good teams. It was literally number one number two number three in the country were all off of his paw. All it should have never voted again after that did just said that's it. That's my crowning achievement. Congratulations I think he did it. And I will say This I mean I was going to give an answer for my pick and that was a great argument for Graham Couch. I'm so go is Shawn Miller sweating to get sympathy from the public so he does not get fired. I think that that was a game plan of the decade to create a mean to garner sympathy and then when the heat really comes people already think you're sweating so much if we put more heat on you you may die from a heat stroke or just get fired literally maybe catch on fire and combust so schommer sweating and getting sympathy from the people. That was my game. Plan the decade. And guess what he is still. The coach of your Arizona wildcats the next category mark. Titus we have is of the decade and this is lower case. Goat G. O. A. T. Lower case of the decade. which is someone who was not doing well in the decade? And I'm just going to give you my categories and then I'm Gonna I'm GonNa. I'M GONNA end on the person that I picked as my go that go to the a decade. I go to the decade. The Rice Commission is one of my nominees Condoleeza Rice and the rice commission as you know they came in. They cleaned up college basketball. There is no more corruption and there is no more backdrop. There is no more cheating await. I'm hearing way okay. Okay so okay Yep Dingo and go well all right next up shock. Smart the man who was supposed to go to Texas and you know make Texas a basketball school get Kevin Durant back involved. Make you WANNA to play basketball. Texas haven't seen too much of a mother when other than when he beats Carolina. You gotTA give him time to get his guys in their tate. You gotta give them more time. There's still piss Philip. Believe the shock mart is a top level coach and they're still a underground belief. That shock is smart is the top of the list to get the North Carolina head. Coaching job when Roy Williams decided to retire also showrooms for eight hundred. Seventy nine wins. Quick tainted shot smart. I hope he does not go to North Carolina. He is up for my go to the decade and then my actual pick for go to the decade lower case. Go the decade Mark Titus Jabari Parker of Your Duke Blue Devils. Oh why what did he do to you. Sabari Parker you're a man that had so much love high potential all this sort of stuff from coach K.. In the do crowded this isn't necessarily Jabari Parker's fault Mark Davis. I'm saying he is the goat in the sense that he is going to get forgotten in the run because he was of course someone who lost a mercer and the first round of the incidentally tournament a guy that was then the number two pick in two thousand fourteen it went to a team that had just drafted their actual franchise player of the year before or his name was Janas Answer Takubo. So he wasn't able to play the position he should've played wasn't able to flourish his career. Okay this is this is a homer pig tate and you. Yeah No. This is my go. The distance is my go to the decade. I don't know I go through it down. I'll I'll I did lose to mercer purser. I I enjoy you reminding everyone that that is important. We should not forget that. Do Lost Austin rivers would have been the go-to the decade given the hype. Yep but he had the shot shot against Tyler Zeller North Carolina and I was at that game so also the rivers was able to avoid that. I had to nominees for for my And I'M GONNA say the first one who is not my pick so this was this was my nominee. Rick Pitino obviously yes to get. Go the decade We're GONNA talk about Rick Pitino more in one of the other categories. I'm not gonNA talk too much about it but Just basically the guy is the one victim of the F. B. I.. Stuff as everyone else like figured out a way to get out of it all. He goes down He had multiple scandals to the point. That if you said what are your thoughts on the Rick Pitino scandal. You'd have to say which one when you say. What are your thoughts on the rick? Pitino scandal involving the sex and stuff which one one what are what are what are your thoughts on the scandal with Rick Pitino. Oh and dirty recruited which one this is this is. This man's this is this man's legacy. He wrote a book. He did a press tour where he said. This is the last interview. We all ever do four hundred times. He started a twitter account. He started a podcast briefly. The the drop of spots split that we that we love so much. The man just became a punchline. And he's he's giving back though he's tweeting his way through it. I think I think this next decade is going to be one of Redemption Simpson for Rick Pitino but my God the fans were not. We're not kind to Rick Pitino. He was definitely go. He got his one national title taken away from him and then he he got to take it away from him and he you got a tattoo on his back to commemorate it now. It doesn't actually exist a rough go for a boy ricky. But the man who is the goal of the decade can only be one one of my own and that man's name is Jeff de Ngelo the mayor who FBI story comes out. And we like I I mean I I have never been so excited my life as when when who June June Cam was the guy's name the the guy who did the press conference and was standard up there with the flow chart and was like we have you he might as well be a nominee by the way yes for forgo the decade. The guys up there doing the pre take it. Yes we have your game plan where maybe game player of the decade. Yes the Pontiac gave. Jj Gateway the decade the FBI. Against bag dropping. I recant show it is the FBI against backdrop shopping in a flow chart the flow. That's not the Pontiac game changing player. That's like the Ford Pinto changing the Mazda. Austin Miana Bird Scooter. Yeah so this guy gets up there already say we ever gave played recovered for you. Everyone's going down. You and I are just like call each other nonstop like Holy Shit. Emergency pod left and right like we like it's unbelievable. We're we're we're sand dollar size of we're going to get rich off of this. We're going to be the we we are. We're already on the cutting edge of bag jar journalism and now this this was handed to us. We're like Oh my God we're going to be basically what the guys became where they've became the The Holy Trinity of of Backdrop Journalism we were positioned to be those guys state and then the story just starts fizzle out because as it turns out the man who was put undercover. FBI agent who is given funds flowed across the country to New York and to Vegas and various other places in this great country. He takes that money when he's in Vegas. And he gambles with and the the entire case crumbles because of this I nothing ultimately comes of substance that we all that we care about other than Rick Pitino losing his job but that really had nothing to do with this had to do with like all all sorts of other Shit Jeff Dangelo. You ruined everything my man. I hope it was worth. They hope you hit it big with the money you gambled. I hope you put it all on red and hit because you don't even funnier as if he bet on like whoever won the national championship that year. And like you've really rich like he's pleased to what was it. Villanova was this the Villanova and over your yeah it was twenty twenty took all the money the FBI funds and just put got a best slipped at Villanova is going to win the title title. And now he's living on islands somewhere but Jeff Dangelo you're might go. You ruined everything. I was so excited for a great story in college. fastball history. And it just fizzled out. Because of you I will say this after you read that story about the trip to Las Vegas and just they use these weird terms in the peace and it's like Dangelo makes a strange requests. You know what I mean. He he ask Christian Dawkins for ten first round draft. Epics like asking for things that are just so outlandish that you're almost like how the Christian dolphins let this guy. You know like sit there and how is this guy the guy they sent you know and how was his name the Angelo like how's it. How did he come over? Jeff Diangelo and it definitely wasn't Dangelo Vickers. You know what I mean. He it was like I want to be Jeff and then he was like what about Deangelis. And everyone's like man. That is the stupidest name I've ever heard of like. That is the dumbest thing no points. And May God have mercy on your Soul Jesse Angelo and these are the people we have investigating the college sport that we love so much and that is a great. Oh my God that is an amazing go to the decade that can honestly honestly cannot be tops. That is my that. Is My goat next category grow we have with our decade categories. We have the capital goat of the decade And I'M GONNA go ahead knock this off Knocked out pretty quickly mark. Ten is my goal. The decade is drummer. Elise Jeff the Angelo true. It is a great pig pig. Slow is honestly honestly. He's defeated the argument of the difference between goat and go because he might just be both and congratulate you. Congratulations Jeff what. What did you what we know? Jackie what if the guy is like what. If it's wildbad running the wild bags twitter account or something he wild bactericide artsy too. SMART TO BE Jeff Diangelo. That's the that's the unfortunate part. It's someone it it someone miss in the system And we somehow with the FBI. Speaking of this okay so jeff. Dangelo ruined the story the FBI thing. It's all dead but I think you and I have to keep jeff the Angelo's memory alive. I think it falls on us as we as we turn the page on on the next decade. We have to keep this alive. We have to continue to try to find out who was Jeff Dangelo. Yeah we just had to keep an ear to the ground this this is our journalistic duty. Maybe this is the story that wall to me. The big J's that was should we start the Jeff Dangelo. The mystery is this official. I think we should. I think like this could be a segment like any time. They're sketchy behavior going on college basketball. It doesn't necessarily have to be like backdrop. You're it just like things that make you think that's interested is this guy. Jeff de Ngelo do the dots connect. Is there. Jeff Dangelo theory here. Let's just figure out where all all the Jeff Diangelo czar that exists. And I promise you there's only about four or five and they're all serial killers that using the name alias. Jeff Dangelo breath hundred percent. That's a great. That's a great. Take forget though. It is a great because like I said the dude probably probably one on. You probably gambled all that money and one blake took it somewhere. It was thirteen thousand dollars right that he got From Bland from Tony Blair. He says my nominees Albany Albany is Obviously they're gonNA fall short jeopardy Angelo's Greatness is Doug McDermott Who I I like to say and I pick Doug McDermott as the goat because again this is all group? Think and tyler hands row was the goat of the two thousands right. If you had to pick someone people would do the whole game of like in. I mean I don't know there's Jason Williams of the College's College resume people would say tyrians and I said the same thing with Doug McDermott. I don't think he actually it is but I think that's the answer that people would say that's why he's the nominee and then my second one which is sort of the same thing but with the one done crowd. Which is Anthony Davis? Which I guess you could say that one year was amazing enough that he you know? Just remember Jim. Nance saying and the Kentucky coronation is complete. You know that moment. WELL WE'RE COW OFF. You know yeah why don't why don't we rip it off real quick. Who the WHO your top five? Okay because I know we were. We were just joking about it. That's how stupid. That's that's one thing we do best. We make fun of people. We started doing the exact same thing. Related artefacts so in my mind. McDermott Davis this. As you said or locks Zion has to be lock even though you WanNa talk me out of this things. I think the most impactful enough to be a lot. I think if those three aren't on your list of top five of the decade you're an idiot and it's invalidated immediately and then the last two are the wiggle room so who are your to to fill it out. Have you even thought about it. I mean what I mean. The top five thing is really tough for me because I think Jalen Brunson is another one. That's going to be. The guaranteed people will put their as that Guy Right. Is there like point guard in that place and maybe like a Kimball Walker might be the other other guy that they put their or I mean even some people I saw putting Shabazz Napier. There I saw some people I saw some people putting mark his page. There you know and I don't think he's at that level. Stop Joe Mary there. And I'm like man Joel Berry probably deserves it. I saw some people putting Isaiah Hicks. They're listening looking at. I think it I was reading here line and I don't know what was I. I don't know what my answer would be as far as like I feel like there's so many guys like a Frank Kaminsky to to me like you could sell me on him. Having such a great year that Wisconsin team beating that Kentucky team to grade to grade four is exactly so you could tell me that he could be a guy that you throw ruin their and maybe slot him in for Zion. If you're doing the college basketball versus talent. That's what I have a problem with is like there's the most talented version of these guys that had like these good good moments. He's great careers. Whatever it may be and there's the career guys that are like a Kaminsky type or McDermott type? That roure Brunson type really where it's like their their resume gives them the credence to be that guy and So that's why I have a hard time making my top five but I guess I would. I would put Kimbe in my top five because I think think he single handedly won a title himself which I think gives him a bomb. I guess above others and then Pour Jeremy Lamb everyone but I love j Jay. I Love I love Jamie and then you know I it is what it is I then the Villanova team I I mean I I think Brunson almost better in the two thousand sixteen team. Then he wasn't the twenty eighteen eighteen team but everyone keeps pointing to the twenty eight team as you know his big moment so I don't know I'm kind of law so Mark Davis minor minor chipmunks Kemba for the reason you mentioned the the idea he his legacy is like the guy that carried a team to national title and that is That is iconic. He's he's an icon on from the tents for that alone And he'll be referenced forever like in Twenty Years Someone. It'll be a team. That kinda sucks but has one good guard. And they're going on a run they'll be. Hey It's a kimble walker all over So that that matters to me so he he's he's one of my spics and then my last pick is I went with this. It was really tough but I went with Jalen Brunson. That's not Jalen Brunson. Everyone that's ever played. That includes me. Actually that was my senior year so I include myself now. I Know Br Brunson Brunson fix a lot of sense. I cannot Brunson one meal ruin came on our show and he was a great great guy. Good good guy. Good guy the year. You're all that Shit. He should probably be the picked but I'm not going to. I'm not going to relent. I'm going to dig my heels in and double down and not say that Macau bridges better known. I seem so is Devon Johnson. And so we'll say that to my pick for the fifth guy would be and you're gonNA love this. I've not seen anybody say I'm not but again and I'm not on your inside Carolina Forum so we're there a lot of people thrown around a lot of wacky names but my guy is trae young this man Eh. Just the disrespect trae on has got is unbelievable and as more time passes people are going to look back. I cannot wait for the next generation of kids to come up and and didn't follow the trae young thing didn't get trae young fatigue because he has shown their stats at his stats all the time. Shove down her throat. At as Oklahoma's losing nine of their last asked eleven in this season while at and people hated that guy because of it. So I'm so excited for the next generation that like didn't really experience that too then look back and watch trae young highlights look up his stats all that Kinda stuff like Holy Shit. This guy was unbelievable. He's the only guy that's ever lead the country in scoring and assists and he did as a freshman where the best team eighty eighty had was Christian. James and or a freshman brady manning. Those were the teammates that he had. Of course they lost nine of eleven. The Guy was unbelievable. The disrespect it gets saying saying everyone just thought he was just some Shit chucker. He was playing in one of the best leagues in the country. Averaging what would what do you ever do. Twenty seven and nine goes I mean at one point it was a thirty in intend was what you expect it at a trae young December and it wasn't even he wasn't even that much of a Chucker I think he shall like thirty six thirty seven percent from three. which isn't like he wasn't lights out? But it wasn't like you shooting twenty four percent from the three point line or anything The Guy was unbelievable and I think history will come around and and rightfully love him for for what he was able to do. But again no one's going to put like three one and done guys on there all decade team. So he never had a shot and I understand why they they didn't make the Sweet Sixteen Yada Yada Yada I I get it but like come on. Put them respect on this man's name what he did was saying. He captivated the country. Whether you can pretend like you hated him but you and I both know. I'm not talking talking to you tatum. Talking to the collision you and I both know when he was hot. It was like the coolest fucking thing on earth when Lake that stretch when he got he got Oklahoma all the way up to number four in the country. They've ranked fourth in the country because of this dude because he was hitting everything it was insane. It was a ton of fun so that was my fifth pick anyway to get that kind of treatment. Then we can give it to Trae the young man so Zion didn't win regular season conference title. He didn't make the final four I know he did. He has even more success and trae young steam. But it's you know it's not Zion. Won The national talk either. Zion's pick is because he captivated the country more than anything else right so can't we do the same thing with trae young if you put tree on a team with RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish. He's probably also not making the final for speaking of speaking speaking of captivating the country let's get to our next category scandal of the decade pump. The brakes I never picked my I did I did we got sidetracked with the top five. I wanted to go through my goat. So my goal is Lebron James. That that he got a he got official college basketball status got his Ohio. State Jersey made by Nike so officially. No I'm kidding My pick it can only be one mandate for the goat for the capital. Go it is Jay. Bilas he I'M GONNA I'M GONNA run down some things that happened for Jay Bilas in this decade. He became the go-to Guy in Maui with Bill Walton but uh he gets to call the best games. So he's he's in there. He gets to go to Maui all the time now he He launched ninety four feet. The Greatest Segment College basketball. Everybody loves it. Who what's your favorite flavor? Spaghetti O's he asked the kids and the kids are like is there more than one flavor Jay. And he's like no no no that's ninety four. He launched that he he. He finally gave up on his hair. He entered the decade having a little bit of hair. Styling it a little bit. He finally made the brave decision to just buzz. The head that was brave. Dave most importantly he got Dickie kicked off the UNC. Second yes that's it. He played a dickey. He's now the the UNC Duke. He he just recently in August gets documentary made about basically himself that he made it about the nine hundred. Eighty two class save coach K.. Where the whole premise of the documentaries? He's like coach K.. would be fired if it wasn't for me. Jay Bilas and and in light of all the pay the players in the FBI stuff and all that kind of stuff. He became the Voice of College basketball. Too where anything anything happens. He said everyone just turned like some apps college basketball. We all turned a J. J. sits there with his his fingertips together tapping all five fingertips to one another just thinking in silence and then he looks up and everyone holds their breath. Jay Bilas goes. It's wrong in the crowd erupts. And he's reached that status as a college basketball commentator status that I aspire to achieve in my life he is my vote for that reason. Congratulations to Jay Bilas. I I mean at the end of the day. Yes he is. He is the go-to Guy. Everyone wants to hear what Jay Bilas thoughts are on anything that goes on in the world of college athletics. And you know that makes you the go in for yeah me right bill. Walton is his perfect go like original. Go from the bill. I mean the you know the two thousands jails to go to the twenty tens and we just keep you know keep on moving. Yeah there you have it so all right moving on. Let's scandal the decade here. We are Okay basically we kind of talked about what I would consider. The Scandal of the decade is pretty easy. But there's also a lot of scandals that can be discussed so my scale the decade. I'll just go ahead and rip it off already. Talked about a little bit and that is basically the TJ Gas Gas Nola Adidas decision to mislead all of these major universities and again we know what was Adidas. We know that Adidas did this. This definitely was the coaches are unaware of this. The players weren't aware Adidas was ripping off all these programs And that's what they told us. And and all these investigations and so the biggest scandal is d is now considered a bunch of cheaters. Dennis Smith get forty thousand dollars. TJ Gas Nola. They had a bunch of runners. We got the whole. Oh bill self portion of this adidas thing where he's getting a accused of you know being aware of what was going on with Adidas and maybe allegedly. You know we don't really know to the scandal of the decade for me is Adidas and the idea that the NC double A. is convinced us that Adidas was acting on their own behalf And that is why it is the scandal the decade for me there there are plenty of other scandals that can be brought up. Some people may bring up. Oh you know a myriad of other scandals but for me. It's just the details. Yes it keep it to bring them up. What were they bring them over? The I know I know one scandal. You're not trying to what about all right. I WANNA start off. My portion forced into the scandal Thing because I have a ton of nominees for this one but I just want to say this date that it is an absolute travesty. That Mark Godfried exit from Alabama happened. Happened in the last decade because That is a scandal that she gets signed shine. It was not what what's really frustrating about. It is that it was not going to win the scandal of what we call it. The odds the two zero zero the first ten years of the malaria. Something like the odds. It was never a can't win the scandal that decade because of the Baylor thing I mean when one year players murders another coach covers it all up and like that that will that was ironclad. The worst college basketball history So Godfrey odd free wasn't GonNa win that one and he's not he he can't. He's not eligible for this one and it's really frustrating because you just stuck in that no man's land of like he's like J. will never win an SEC player. The he's like the all time he was there. And it was having to get an all-time grade level but just happened to be at the wrong time wrong. All time all time great scandal and will never actually went scandal the decade that is an absolute shame so I just wanted to get that out of the way so we we have. We have the Louisville scandals as a whole like all. Just let's just hang president. Just the Patino. Testimonies the cardinal sin cartel says Area Pacino's testimonials in twenty ten when he said the fifteen second thing. So that's part of this decade is well that counts Brian Bowen. All of it The North Carolina's fake classes. I don't know if you've heard about this North Carolina state. They weren't taking glasses there. Oh Wow I didn't hear about this so man not. I don't know if you've heard this north. The University of North Carolina Chapel Hill had fake classes for basketball players. I don't know if you knew about what for African American Studies and people are upset about it color shocked we have we have We have Bernie find stuff at Syracuse. That happened yes we could. That's a nominee. We we have the time that Mitch mcgarry smoked we honestly under any other circumstances that would be my pick because that is one of the funny stories I will never get over that story. The dude was out. He had a bad back. He was out for the tournament They're going to play the lead. I think it was. It was against Kentucky because it was the Aaron Harrison shot to beat Michigan. Yes exactly yeah. They're going to play Kentucky and has like an Act of Solidarity Mitch. mcgarry who has been sidelined for. Most of the season with an injury decides to address dress for this game just to like because he's kind of feeling better and he's rehabbing and so be line dresses him to get him like to have him warm up with the team. And it's just one of those moves. It's one of those moves to get. All the players are excited. Oh my God can we get Mitch out there for maybe five minutes like is he gonNA play not whatever whatever because he dresses. He's eligible to get drug testing drug tested that game and because he gets drug tested that game which was an NCAA tournament game and it comes back positive. For we'd he is then suspended bended for the entire next season and so he just decided to go pro it is what are the all time like bizarre ridiculous stories in College Basketball History. Had none of people remember it and I just want to bring that up because what hilarious scandal that is I mean. It sucks for mcgarry. That he was forced his hand was forced but Just can you imagine the lock like I. It's almost as bad as the brandon. Davies luck. You know what I mean for that to all at that time and it also we have to point out the bag Mitch. mcgarry was becoming adored by the media media that time like Cuba. He was like he was becoming. You know like he was almost becoming like a tyler. Hands Bro type leg white dude door and pull for you. Don't any good. Did you say he was so skilled he could. He was Josh Robert Type. You know what I mean exactly. He was great and he submarine. They take just because he dressed. They've had failed a drug. That is so that I that scandal we have the aircraft. Bruce Barbecue actually happened in two thousand eight but came to light in two thousand ten Then Bruce brought fire for that. We have the Xavier Cincinnati fight. ZIP THEM UP ZIP him up. That happened in this decade. We have allay submission very very late. Tried to try to win it at the Buzzer here Walter McCarty at Evansville. I don't know if you've been reading the reveal on that one but my God would scandal that is that's all say about Godfrey. Very guys We have Denzel Valentine faking his injury. Twenty sixteen as dubbed INS. Ghazi win win. A tried to to not make his team peak at the right time. All of these remind nominees. I wanted to give them all proper credit and acknowledge all of them but Mike Scandal. The decade has to be Grayson Allen Trade. It is it is the story that we needed as as a college basketball community entity that the man was the most hateful guy the decade by far he had all the pieces for for all of us to come together and just be a lightning rod of hatred for For for Grayson Allen to play for to be a white man to be a very good white basketball player at Duke and then on top of it all just be so universally hated it so easily really hated for all the stuff you did in two thousand sixteen so it starts in February of the time line. I know you remember tape. People listening might by not trips trips. Ah Louisville Legal Player in two thousand sixteen couple of weeks later tries the trip Florida state player. And it's it's a big. There's a big problem He he he Everyone's losing their minds about whatever the season this was towards the end of the season two thousand sixteen season he doesn't off-season sit down interview with. ESPN talking about how much it growing coach K.'s. Get in front of these cameras talking about like like. He's a good kid he would never do it intentionally. It's an accident Santa and that's the manuscript with Ilan. Yes yes and then he comes back trips. The man for me he gets suspended indefinitely indefinitely is one game and coach still keep saying like he did nothing wrong like you all the wrong. I know Grayson. You don't know him like I do. The whole the whole scene was just so great. It was so perfect Because what what makes a great. What makes this for me? The scandal the decade is. There's really no victims. You know like it's not like the guys tripping their careers rented or so I know they could have been so it's not like I don't mean to make light of. It could seriously hurts some of these guys when he's you know it. It got slightly dangerous I guess he gets but ultimately nothing really happened. So who cares. There's there's no victim except for like us. Having to watch coach gay get in front of a camera. And be like he's he's repented for all of his sends after one game and we're gonNA play him now and we're like come on. Jay of the whole thing was hilarious. I loved it it was. He was suspended indefinitely. He missed one game and Grayson Allen came out and he called himself one one of my favorite terms to say about someone. That's doing something that's messed up. But you actually are trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and it happens a dark knight rises and you know I it basis wind Robin and here we know. Yeah yeah that was the that was the first one The no the second one wait. Yeah the second one And basically when when he gets caught a hot head when those board level who is up becoming robin you know what I mean. Get this hot head out of here. You know what I mean. Yeah Grayson Allen said during that boom. I know those half the basketball world thinks this hothead dirty player who can't get anything under control the new probably thinks I'm extremely arrogant a selfish guy and I would say okay. Yeah that all checks out you know what I mean. I would say not half the best of all definitely not have ninety eight percent and I don't think it was just the basketball the world. You know what I mean. I think it was a world. I think everyone that was like paying attention. was like this guy. Fits the bill of what we want as that guy. So yeah. I agree free grace and Allen trip. I mean Ozzy a pretty good win for Grayson Allen considering the amount of scandals that were out there For him to come out on top. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. It was it was the perfect scandal because it was it was something we could all get behind like. I said it was victimless. So it was it was. It was what we needed. It was what we as a country needed and I thought the FBI thing was going to do the same thing for us. And God Damn Jeff Dangelo Jeff. What did it again? Can we quickly. I want to do the glue blogs glue guy and technical the decade. And then I I WANNA save scoop of the decade for last so I forgot I I WANNA do glue guy anymore cat and three more categories to go here the decade and again if you're upset and you're like these decade lists aren't whatever there's a million unless out there that you could read all the many moments of college basketball we should do at the very end we should do. The all decade lists of the decade journalists the best decade. I like Mike Decor see and said yes. I like parish. Matt norlander is amazing to me. I love the analytics from Kim Palm Kim properly put it into perspective for me. All right gu-guy the decade Mark Tata's I'm working through the glue guys of the decade. There's there's the obvious answer. And there's there's obviously the lingo that a glue guy means guy like Aaron craft but in Aaron craft is a too good to be a glue Guy Right. This is like the. I'm trying to give them a barometer for what glue guy in the sense of the category set Davis. Of course we'll give you his version. Our version is basically a guy that is the number four Dion Thompson on the two thousand nine North Carolina national title. It'll team is. I is what I would describe. More of an x factor. Okay see exactly so it can be argued but for me Glue Guy. The decade is a guy that Jay writes that had the best career one of the best careers all time. Villanova a guy that you will remember as I bring him up all the time. And he's the reason that North Carolina loss to Villanova Twenty Six north Carolina national title game. And that was because he he had twenty points in that game. And he's a man by the name Phil Booths and my Glue Guy. The decade is Villanova Zone Phil Booth a man that will be forgotten and diva Chins owes jalen Brunson the Kell bridges. You know all all Amari spelled all the guys that were you know. kind of rotating through their little dynasty run Those three or four years but Phil Booth was by far to me their most important player. He of course got hurt in the in between year When he was doing with that foot injury but Phil booth is my guy the decade? I'm going to give other nominees because yeah I went through the numbers crunch. The numbers give Phil boots every single time. Well I- I object just on the premise. That guy has to be a white guy. ooh So he's an lead actor. He's an excellent. The black guys are X.. Factors Glucose seabed. NECE that's my only he. He is risen above this. This racial tension. Yeah he's he's transit. He's racism. He is Phil boop he's the Brady's made up for the last booth. John Wilkes booth really did a bad Ed and Phil Booth has changed the booth perspective in this century. Congratulations to Philby all right. Well how about how about this. How about we saw racism? Yeah why don't we do it right out so you you will collectively declare Phil booth. Glue guys Yes and then. I'm going to do the same thing. And turn it on. Its head and declare my ex factor of the decade to be Dunkin. Robinson Duncan Robinson is X. Factor the decade. whoa amazing very yes very very biased? Pick but At the same time this is a man who shot thirty forty two percent from three point line for his career tate average He only averaged nine point. The three points per game wasn't playing it on as you remember on the team that I know point was he ever like the top three minute video on machine I think his first year there he is fourth and minutes nets and then his minutes just kept going down his scoring went down isiah livers a freshman started over Dunkin Robinson. And did you hear did you. See Duncan Robinson in the media complaint ever. Did you see him ever ever ever seen anything like this. Kid is a freshman who is averaging Isaiah livers was averaging three point four points per game on that season tate and and he was starting over senior Dunkin Robinson Deng Robinson took it like a champ Lead single handedly. I would say you know some could argue but I would. I would say singlehandedly led Michigan Michigan to the to the title Game Against Villanova Twenty Eighteen and then and then he was never to be heard from again. Oh wait that's not true Wins the summer league. MVP every single year mhm the at least the VP. Guess when's it every year are MVP. It has now is now shooting forty seven percent from the three point line averaging twelve points per game a for the two seed in the East in the NBA. Right now the Miami Heat he starting starting for the Miami for two seed for the third best team by record in the NBA NBA right. Now Duncan Robinson starter and he could not start over Freshman Isaiah livers who averaged three point four points per game and he knew he was this good. The whole time never said anything about it took it like a champ. Just got buckets when he got in there that is why he is my ex factor the year or decade. I'm sorry There it is. That's my well that's amazing. Raising Glue Guy the decade Phil Booth x-factor the Decade Duncan Robinson. And both just breaking barriers Pretty impressive wow this is this is honestly absolutely. This is epic. Who would have thought that the twenty one be so different now so I said this is this is this is Brad Paisley? Jd Game plan to the new decade. Yeah there you go. That's what I said. Is the Brad Paisley cool j all over again. We we did it we fixed. What was the other one nelly intimidated over and over? Yeah Yeah uh-huh and then a Florida Georgia Line Nelly did a song. Yeah there's a lot of those all right that's great all right technical the decade This was really tough for me to find the most against impactful technical fouls that happen this decade and try to point out the ones that really mattered uttered and I say this any technical foul that make cronin was part of should be all packaged together. 'cause I was like I WANNA see how upset corona gets after what we saw in person in Vegas Mick. Cronin's technical fouls of the twenty percents At Cincinnati especially against you know certain teams like I don't I don't know their rivals. Xavier he had a couple. He's a maniac and UH absolute maniac a raving lunatic and it. He's the head coach of the UCLA. Men's basketball team in Baron Davis came out and said that he supports him and things going to be great and that makes me think he might be great Mark Titus and I can't wait to sit by them. I can't wait until twelve days when we want to sit behind him. Thanks to the partners that Dose Akis and say what a great job stop coach. Do you have a message for the haters I can't wait for that moment. So for me. My tip identical validate. I JUST WANNA T- up Cronin for his behavior coaching at Cincinnati. So you're technical is all Vin. Cronin's exists yes exactly emptying Emma. Well so I had. I wrote down like specific instances and I fought 'cause I as you said you can't really like Google. It's hard to find it harder than you think to Google technical vows so I was ripped from memory of Things that stood out. I guess that makes a Lotta sense to do it that way too because if I remember it then obviously it was impactful enough to you know it it it it works out that happened so What was what was crazy to me though? Oh my first three memories of technical fouls were not actually technical fouls this is crazy. Stick with me The first one came to mind also when I think technical fouls in the attends I think Mick Cronin so the first thing that came to mind was when he he in Teddy Vee chested each other and got each other's face as it turns out I went back and rewatch it. He didn't didn't actually get a check for that Teddy. Vee just they just step to each other. They talked all that Shit I think Teddy Vee realized he was out of line. So he's like I can't I can't see him up and then Cronin realize that teddy beacon team up because and so he was like fucking. I'm going all in. And he just went hammer on them and what a scene that was but it wasn't technically a technical foul so that can't be my pick. The second one that came to mind. Was Tom Gugliotta. was ejected from the game. You remember this by God that that like just like pop. Yeah that's a great one because it was a Karl Hess through. I don't remember wrestling or Jamie. Probably say look because they're both work at that game was Carl Lucky Would Tom Gugliotta got tossed. But that wasn't a technical failure it was just like they just tossed a fan from the game wasn't like dealer team. Got Two shots for that but that came to mind. So the third thing that came to mind was As remember the Mitch mcgarry pot-smoking thing think I remember Elijah Johnson sack tapping Mitch mcgarry the 2013 sweet sixteen need Just out of nowhere for really for no reason. He crippled him. And it was hilarious is given the stakes of the game and all that kind of at the time and scored everything about just like. Did you hit him in the nuts. Why but that wasn't a technical foul that was a flagrant foul? Aw optimally settled on tate. Kansas state walk on and I want to say his name right. Brian Roll the NERF. I probably mispronounced say roller re role leader. Whatever Kansas state walk on bride roller and the second round of the two thousand fourteen? Ncaa Tournament Against Kentucky The He dunks in warm ups and Kentucky starts the Game Two free throws because a walk on dunked in the NCAA tournament. Warm up line. And I gotta say that is one hundred percent worth that candidate in of losing the game they lost by more than two thankfully because that would be really bad if they've lost by like one or something But yeah don't warm ups and and the best part about it was he dunked with nineteen nineteen fifty-eight on the clock The whole this is no longer really allowed to Duncan warrants. Now with back in the day you could not get warm ups. When the clocks they would start to clock? Doc when there's twenty minutes before tip off or whatever so you could not dunk for the final twenty minutes and he dumped with nineteen fifty-eight left on the clock like basically he was two seconds away. Hey from it being legal to do it and the rest Cottam and they teach them up and gave Kentucky two free throws so that's a legendary technical foul. He's telling that story for the rest of us and I also say this. That has the most looks like Kirk Church League technical foul. You could ever hear your entire life. You know what I mean. It's like no one's allowed to dunk. This is fundamental basketball. Late in I in the same vein of what you're saying about the teed up things about remembering specific technical fouls I was just thinking back. I remember Bob Hurley in the tournament this year against Saint John's got a technical foul asking what he do. And I just I think that's probably the funniest technical Falcon my head. Just like going to the official being crazy and arrange like both the Hurley brothers are like like they are the entire game but then actually just asking something normal like what he do and then the ref already being ready to write the referenced so he just like all right Ed valid off Alfred the rest the rest promises wife as you get ready for the game. He's like putting shoes on his wife staffer on the back of he's like remember honey if he says anything to you you're going to team up right. He's like I will will. I will babe I'm GonNa do it. I promise I'll do it. And he he just had it locked and loaded Yeah those are good. Picks picks all right final catechists the final category of the decade the scoop of the decade. And this is something that you know. We've been going back and forth on About you know. We wanted to get our first big scoops boobs. We've had some scoops In the past whether it be John Rossi's fiance Whether it be. You Know Me Scooping Kindle Marshall having a broken wrist because James Michael You told me and then I was like well. I guess I'm GonNa Tell People Nowadays Michael Ice Cube Greg Oden joining Ohio states staff. Yes yes when he when he came back to school I scooped up. Yes we've been. We've we've been in scoops game But been all over to me some biggest groups huge coops. I have to point out a scoop. That wasn't even done by a capital J. journalists it was not done by anyone that is in the field of media. Even though I guess you could say he is a media star at this point and it only takes two words words to show you why this is to me the scoop of the decade. And it's not the scandal the decade is scoop of the decade and the two words Mark Titus are and Duke And the and the man who put that scoop out there was a man on twitter. Her name is Michael Avenue atty and he insisted that Duke and Nike Specifically Nike Paid Basketball. All Star Zion Williamson to go play for the Duke Blue Devils. Of course we've seen other remarks made this decade like Doc rivers. Not Too long ago saying that. Billy Billy Donovan Gets Outbid for Austin Rivers Service to play at Florida You know that happened. Apparently according to twitter so muskie with a decade is and Duke and Mike Eleven addy no investigation no scandal justice. Scoop just a scoop to get like You could get tweets embroidered on Pillows yes t shirts. I've seen people do that before where it's like like someone will make a shirt. Has It all. It is just a picture of like Jaden Smith. Tweeden says how can Mir's be real ever is aren't exactly and it just has the date on it the blue checkmark and it's got the whole. It's like you're looking at twitter. I want to do a Christmas gift to us. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa get this just just and Michael Nutty and do frame it in my office just says Andrew with the blue checkmark. What a great school that is that is that is a fantastic scoop? My pick was going to be us. We had people forget this state. They they do. Forget it that we had the scoop Steve offers getting fired from UCS but as is the case sometimes the scoops games like what you're scraping ice cream. You get a nice hefty scoop on bet on that scooper and it falls off and falls right back into the TUB. That's a that's what happened with us. I will never forgive myself for this. We had the scoop. A very reputable source reached shout. This told US Steve Alford will be fired today. I checked the time stamp on it. I was laying in bed. I looked at I. I looked at the communication should not have however was that he reached out to us. I was reading. I was like well I typed up tweet. I stared at the tweet and I thought to myself what. If I'm I'm wrong. What happens next and I started like playing out the scenarios? We're like everyone's roasted and like all my credibility is shot. And you know I'm trying to be the Jay Bilas of I'm trying to be the next Jay Bilas us. I can't can't risk this rate some staring at it. I chicken out. I hit the X.. I go to sleep. I wake up the next morning to see if it was true and I refresh. And there's there's nothing there's no story about Steve offer getting fired. I'm like Oh my God thank God I did not tweet that because obviously it didn't happen and then it happens like three hours later and I lose my mind because I'm like Holy Shit. We could've beat this story by like ten hours. We had like a ten hour head. Start on this and we blew it and I'll never forgive myself so I I just that is the blown scoop of that. was that was one scoop of the decade because Martinez at the end of the day you have the story of the scoop and as we both know better remembers who actually scoops I. They were members. Who has the story of the scoop because they will tell the to? What if what if is almost better better too? It's better to be the I would have scored if coach would've put me you know. We scored twenty points. But I but he didn't that asshole it's better to get lost than never have loved. It ought a big. Oh I love that screw very much I lost you. Yeah so mice group of the decade had it can only be one man It is it is the King of of journalism on our former the former donation of this podcast is a man by the name of Mark Slavonic and he. He just shattered the college basketball world. Ah I didn't even know it was possible to have this sort of scoop. It broke my brain when it came out that he had on a federal wiretap Shawn Miller admitting to pain down your age or gender George Down Eight one hundred thousand dollars. He had it on the TAP. He has the tape. He has it in his possession I think the whole new reason tate. He has not released. Release the tape and we have been begging for him to release. He's operating at a higher plane than us. We're like mark. Please release the tapes. But he's like sit down young grasshopper. I know more about this game than you do. And I'm like Mark I trust you. I'm I'm sorry question. This my theory is the only reason he has not released. The tape is because he is saving it for the next decade. He's going to release the tape and that will be the scoop of the next decade. He's trying to double d. He's trying to get a double scoop coach K.. But once guess he wants to be both centuries in both sides while Gimme two scoops is what he said So I think that's what we're waiting on. We're waiting on the tape for. I think starting tomorrow would the as soon as the ball drops. Everyone keep your head on a swivel. That tape is going to be coming. Ah The the the the clock has started at that point. It could happen at any time so you really can't afford to sleep your college basketball journalists you cannot afford to sleep because she box GonNa drop the tape at any time you you have to keep you out on us but that is my pick for the what a incredible decade and This is it was right. I'm I'm thoroughly impressed with all although we covered. And then I think about the fact that you can go read. Set Davis Robbed Ouster Matt Norlander Gary Pairs and all these other great journalists and they have their teams and all their moments of matter. If you you put it all together. It's a great decade of college basketball. Who's your who's your left-handed rebounders Who's your who's your mid major major screen Cetera? All my gosh. She had Brian Zoubek but he played on do. Yeah it was fun fun fun decade but it keeps rolling. That's the great thing is There's there's more basketball there's we we don't have to be nostalgic for this decade because the next decade my God we're off to a great start this season in college basketball has been Really really shitty played says it's been it's been horrible. I was I was trying to set it up as you. You know trying to wax poetic about how great it is like. This is what we have in store for next ticket. Just yeah it might actually basketball dying. That's the question Russian. What what happened to the floppy dude? Like I thought flopping was going to be emphasize this year I swear to God. There's like seven thousand. It's out of control. It's an epidemic. It's gotten worse there. There's more flopping this year than there's ever been and they were supposedly going to start issuing warnings and technical fouls for this shit. And I don't understand it I don't get it. I think. At the end of the day. Flopping will come back but it's going to have to come back with like Indiana like Butler is GonNa have to bring back flopping it's GonNa come. It's going to have to come different than do Dukes dukes not gonNA flop anymore. They're too good to fly. Yeah someone's going to Wisconsin try dude. They're just not winning. Exactly gotta do it on a bigger stage. You know they did. Beat the hell out of Tennessee. You see those Tennessee is not that one's GonNa age very poorly that that that Wisconsin win at Tennessee is going to be like Oh state beat North Carolina about twenty five at the dome. Yes that can actually you better by the news. I will give a shout out though the big east. I don't know how much you're paying attention. Biggest basketball has been incredible. I've loved the biggies this year. It's the Big East is definitely the the conference conference if you WanNa Watch college basketball. That's not just completely unwatchable and you don't really care what's going on just throwing a big game all the all the teams are as good as each other And they still play like decent basketball the big oak so so are you saying. Have you seen. The new. Big East is very similar to the big us. You think you're saying that they are. It's like the opposite. Okay all is college basketball right now. Is like the Old Big East West Virginia Ohio State Game Head. I had it written down here. Let me pull it up over the because I want to get this right. 'cause I don't want people to think amusing hyperbole are. There were forty nine thousand in the West Virginia House. Take as those are true numbers and the the new big East is like actually good basketball. They moved the ball. They shoot threes and make them they. Don't just hack the shit out of each other Yeah it's fun and Marcus Howard. Miles Powell being gene could drop forty on. That's yeah we get. We get some good times. We'll flip over which you didn't mention this Doug McDermott's legacy is we're talking about him like being in an all time leading scorer graduate fifth all. I believe so yes. I'm like that is definitely up there. He never made the sweet sixteen which is a is a knock on him in four years. He was a three time. First team all American but one thing that I I I hope his legacy as we look back and put a ball in the decade. Craig it would not be in the Big East if not for Doug McDermott like the timing of it. All that the big east implodes as Doug. Mcdermott who is like the best player in the country is playing at create in the new. You Big East is trying to form. And they're just trying to pick up scraps here wherever they can get them and cranes like. Hey we're a Catholic school that is private and we have we we get it. We're us to join National Sean. Take us we're we're great at basketball. Would you like us to join biggies like come on down. And I'm not even kidding. I really think like if Doug McDermott doesn't play for CREIGHTON. At that time name Crayton is not in the big east. Maybe they still would be eventually but I think that's why and That's pretty cool. I think if there's anything different than what you're saying is that basically the Rutgers it'd be the team that's the biggies instead of the big ten which Yeah that's you know God family and Rutgers Basketball until we die it rutgers basketball until two thousand twenty. That's all it is anything else before we go. I want to say to the West Coast show. West goes basketball. We have better updates to come. We have better days ahead we have Arizona starting taxing. We we have us at Pauley pavilion. We've both seen. Ucla twice live and we have not seen them at poly so so we will be at the USC UCLA game. We have tickets we will be. There cannot wait boots on the ground so the ground. Ucla we'll find. I can't believe you're PAC. Twelve update include include a Michael Porter former PAC twelve former PAC twelve committee michael porter from the Seattle also playing on the West Coast. Yeah in Denver advert playing on the West Coast and Cape believe that dropping nineteen points at his first. Start against the Kings but sit out. Michael retired sit. Yeah sit out on hold on hold out for that contract All right before we go I just wanted to also say we're we're doing dirty laundry. We're going to try to bring it back. Maybe Friday depending on how many submissions we get We've brought back dirty laundry. I just want to remind the people take email US tightest. Tate at gmail.com centers your stories of of coaches players. You've got that class with if if Whatever whatever's going on send us your funny stories A being a manager being a student at around players whatever it is and we will read them but but please please keep them anonymous. If we can deduce who you're talking about if anyone with half a brain can can deduce who you're talking stuck good. It's not funny then. It's not good. That's all we. We're not trying to ruin people's lives here. We are trying to just tell fun story. So Sin Those and if you if if you will We will eventually we're working on. We're GONNA eventually like do some contests with this I think should we merge. Then you'll get mercer. We'll give Mertz. Yeah we're GONNA shout merge and all that kind of stuff but in the meantime if you just if you don't care about Murphy Selflessness how about the program senior stories in and will we read them on Friday depend on what we get Sick there's that anything else L.. That's it man. I'm excited we get twenty twenty ahead of New Year new US SNOOP PODCAST Tyson. Tate Subscribe Review. Do all that other stuff and Yeah we'll be back in the new year happy New Year.

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Bro Time In Your Budhole - The Power Trip [FULL SHOW]

The Power Trip

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Bro Time In Your Budhole - The Power Trip [FULL SHOW]

"Defend! Listen. Threes just came in for last month. We are number one. We just grabbed every key Democrat. But. Go Nito. Is Good News your field blame. Are You mad? Do you feel about vanish? Get Francis. Kutigi. Google. Avatar. And I'm just guessing here. Some kind of medication that you maybe need a lot of and have taken none of or maybe too much today. It is the Fifteenth Day of July Twenty Twenty Good Morning. Everybody Chris Rock, you hear about to bring you another edition of the power trip born show Mardi Gilmour being today, so that's always fun, plus we'll do another dual of the decades this morning, and it meets us. Trivia game so lots to get through. Thanks for tuning in. Let's get her started with Connex. Kevin Pollack and Josh Robert Thompson. Christopher walken now the thing about doing impersonation. Once I start doing in. My can't really stop is one of these people you wake up in the morning? And he's just there. You know I start my day the way you do open the refrigerator. And then it just happens. were out of soy milk. This is tragic news. FOR THE LACTOSE INTOLERANT! Ng trip to the market today. The clearly a drive to trader. Joe's is in my future. All I hope he's there. One time so that I might say hey, y'all. I can't believe you here. I come to store all the time John. Just never thought I'd see honestly I'm a big Fan. I love this place. That's fantastic. Anyways I've got a question. Foy George more of a concern. What's the deal with Olive Green Bananas? Why must my groceries ripen on my counter? Recently I purchased a GPS. APP for my phone so I traded it in for the Matthew mcconaughey version. which is cool if you like to drive while you're stoned? Sometimes. She got to put your car in reverse. If you WANNA move forward. which you need to understand, the whole universe is is one giant baked potato. Run Low on salary. All we are manages Butter Bacon and Chad's. Getting hot and his car man, we should all take shirt so. That includes you too grim. All Right? Let's go down a main street to get to third. Then you go to make. Bill Bad. All right. Do. You WanNA still. Camera Club from the power money show, it's Wednesday. July teased him twenty. Twenty I'm Cory Co, that's. That's Paul Meat Sauce. Weber Zach Zach all hi Chris. and A Wednesday the power to your morning. Joe, which means Marnie Goellner is joining between seven and nine Omar Grows David. Screw them, yeah. It'd be back next week. They've dream. He's fine. Living the dream beautiful. set photos from up North Yemen. Amateur photographer Mark Rosen normally. His amateur photography involves tasteful, nude, whole lot of different, mostly obscure tasteful. Yeah, he likes to go to the mall. And I wouldn't call them tasteful. I'd say scratch and sniff. We do pioneer he Yeah I'd call very distasteful, Daniel Boone in the wild Bush is he? How do we get Patrick Catch on? About rose. Yeah month. That'd be good impair. Voted the wild, Bush. I think we're just keep saying. Yeah, sometimes if you just keep saying something, people start believing you know what I'm saying it works. Dude. Banger it's pretty banging. Database issue are we start with post Malone. What do you mean? You guys read the story about Patrick, Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Post Malone not. Now there's something to just living your life second the second, not one day at a time, not one month at a time, but just whatever comes up. You just do it. I'm not that free. Are you know is anybody here? Just that free like whatever happens I don't Care No. It's a story. I think G. Q.. That says after the Super Bowl right, the chiefs party like maniacs. Patrick Mahomes had something like twenty beers in a between partying and plane beer pong. With Travis Kelsey of the chiefs. And Post Malone. And I guess post is pretty competitive. They start playing beer pong. Post. Believe continues to lose, but then he's like all right. We gotta take it up. A Notch makes a bet. Violence do you I get your name. Your autograph tattooed on my body. Immediately Post Malone has a tattoo artists that just follows them around. But Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, the guys just in the corner like ready. In case post you want some of the tax. So Patrick Mahomes beat them in according to this article somewhere on post Malone Body. I don't know if it's both Travis Kelsey an Patrick Mahomes, but he at least has the autograph of Patrick Mahomes somewhere now tattooed on his body. Wow! Wow that's just living life differently. I'm jealous of that freedom, just not caring. That crazy! Yeah, if I lose to you, beer pong, it's your name on my body forever. Bat I think it's on his arm. It looks like it looks like that. It says it's Patrick mahomes signature, a. k., C. Logo, and then Travis cal, so they both are on their. YEP, WOW! That about you know. The fantasy charge challenges coming up. that. We still figure out how do that. Keep asking about it. Good for him and Post Malone, Wales. is a ton of good tunes. We can do the car wash would you can't get out of your car? And that's the thing is we just gotTa? Figure out the logistics of how we're going to do it. I just wash my car. And you guys. Watch your car's. We'll call it even. I'm fine with that I'm. Willing to allow us out of the bed by. Car Okay and I'm not even going to hand wash it. An actual car wash for just throw a bucket of water. Maybe I have a monthly deal at Young And you know the thing about that. Is I washed my car so much more because if I don't feel like an idiot. Like. A Bug hits my windshield Mike gotTA. GotTa Wash. Bitch! Your. BITCH IS PRETTY Big Truck Dude, maybe just. Maybe we should just see if let us work a young step for one day. Just House to. Brian I'm sure about explained anything just draw. You. Guys are GonNa put me in some perverts costume. I'm sure I'll look just like Saas and. Keep edging rolling up to young stats and a guy and I'm wearing a ball gag a thong. Your hockey work series. Keough hockey Yakhio Hockey. Games in moral Thomas. He played for. Barack Obama is more Okabe. Sauce confused. No I guess free guys. If you guys want something right off the top pulled over on the way here. Okay, now that trump's when I had gone. Tell me. Gentlemen, can I please have your attention? So coming I'm I live downtown so I wake up this morning. Got Ready. I did shower got ready. and. You're driving to work. It's like five minute commute. It's die minute commute. Well, sitting down hurts my thighs. So going down three ninety four. Question Mark. Yes Walk Down Three Ninety four westbound. and. Get, you mean eastbound. Going westbound. This. Oh, yeah, okay, you're right. You're right I'm just so ready to be wrong. Here's why no, my direction, because the. What's it called like when you learn something The I learned. It is North East with no sorry. It's North East south. West never read. Should we saw GI waffle? So, that's why I know it, 'cause it's food really. Anyhow I'm westbound ninety four. and. It's for ten in the morning and I'm an idiot and I'm cooking down the road. And all sudden, this car gets up behind me. Tailgate me and I'm like what the hell. So I'm about to punch it. And the lights go on. So I pull over. and. The guy says. Not Fast. You're going. What's the speed limit on three, hundred, four, fifty, five, fifty five, yeah? And I go. Yeah. Yeah. He goes. Real fast, and I'm like yeah. And UH. Give your license and registration and I'm like yeah, so my license. And my registration. It looks at it. This. Where are you going? So I'm going to work. He, said, what do you do? Oh! God here comes this. Is going to get out of ticket because he's made sauce I said. was I work at the radio station over there? That's all I didn't even say caffeine. I swear to God. Well, but okay, but you also know that if you're to. Work at a radio station, right up. Right up the street here he's going to say accolade radio station. The follow up. Question did not radio station. So I'm going. I'm deaf I. Deserve A ticket. I do. And I see him in my rear view mirror. Walk to his car turnaround, he has my license. And he says. Going to give you a warning for the speed slowdown. How do you like your car? A Mike I love it. Like a ten minute conversation about my car and it was a great day. It gets back in his car and leaves. The. Well. Maybe he'll come. On you. Koya gets a stripper. Mr Lambert on your way to the big time radio station. I didn't tell them what I did. Where what station I just said, I work over there and you. Can you give me an idea just how fast you were gone? Pen. Turks you. I'M GONNA say it on the air. Owns You're already hinting at the number of pastor nominee. Texas. Holy Balls collects music. Trying to hit the time travel, yeah! I know two or Wow, you should have gotten a ticket. You should have gone to jail. Yeah no way little. Wow, come on! Oh My. Duke. The FLEX capacitor kick. As being an idiot, yeah. WHOA, That's too fast, I know. I got carried away. I was listening to good tunes and I got carried away. Oh, well okay. Five. You time machine. Let's try very. Probably. Make a tree. Get out brilliant line. Back, Question. Where is the Where's The sports MAC? Artery, let you realize there's more money in the ALMANAC. Can't believe a police officer from Bifida and let you go and you're going that fast. Ace Second. A second away from speeding away faster when I thought a whole was tailgating, like how dare you tailgate me when I'm trying to time travel? Audit. That's too fast if it is for you. I get a ticket for sure. Yeah, oh no doubt. Hockey. For Sixty seven yeah, in a fifty five on highway one hundred last year. Seven. Do you remember how many tickets the big guy would get all the time? Can Slow. Shower late. Got Enough to. Run here. Three or four weeks. Ago I need your dad well, yeah. He had an H. Two at the time. It really really really stood out that. That thing goes quick little. and. It was a yeah. Well we didn't even have black. One was black, had a yellow one antibiotic black winner. I got okay. You couldn't miss it. Sounds like the radar guns couldn't miss it either. Ten minutes late I got on the board. Called were. avalanched, you remember. Avalanche before the H. Two. At the most. of course. We talked about Tom like he's no longer with us. Yeah can't remember that time. No one about to be right when we were over the car dealership. Funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Vera literally was going to be a four person endorsement and I think he ruined we. and. Where were you GonNa? Shoot a small of the. Star rolls up a couple of minutes late. We Talk Classic Star. All. All of is. Certainly in the parking lot with this is loudspeakers can possibly. Jack. Stupid. And all of us are. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but it was super super. Find you new. One of most of the do it. Do A COUPLA labs. My, he'll wear out. To sales manager was there. The owner of the place was there. To Three waiting for you tell forward. Ready for. Before and after pictures. Eight. Oh Yeah, yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's the best. Way For me. So. Is the. Funniest Person I've ever in bad. Here start talk over. All that we're all standing there waiting like hey, this can be a great opportunity for all of us where Star and then all the waste. Was A catacomb. Mornings Appear of. Boll parking he does circle. At about three miles an hour, take various slow parade professionally one vehicle. Let me tell the story without. Without giving clients way even though it's no longer client, but he and I were doing. An endorsement together. For A lot of weight loss product this longtime go. And it came in a package wrapped in plastic, and we took before shots without shirts on, and then we had to take before shots ninety days after shots ninety days later we'll start being a giant man who was an obsessive workout guy and he could drop weight like you wouldn't believe. He could drop weight almost immediately. You couldn't believe how quickly, but he could also gain it very very quickly. So ninety days. After shots. At least forty pounds. Three days later Abbott asks if he can use the product. Yeah got car, and it's still in the. I. Is Go. Shoot. Someone has those pictures. Don't go to break I. Mean we can't post them though. The funniest thing ever. Who've man? Years Man. That's funny. What I'M GONNA. Send it to you. Oh, you got the picture I've one. To. Slim Whitman yeah, but. What movies is from? The Mars bit attack Mars! Mars. anals to. Did they have it in. Like the. I don't know. That kind of tax. It's March Texas. Zach. You have the I've seen. The he ever went into the dealership destroyed around. Filming Commercial Video, we did, but. The only thing I remember from that day. Is Him doing laps? We'd laughed so hard. Year point. Four was ever got the endorsement. Deal, ever. Was that day. Can't believe the. Unbelievable. Page. Let's. Do, you Most excited to meet. They were sports when the power trip returns after this on the fact. Welcome back to the parents morning. Show six three. Thank you for tuning in by the way. Beginning today every Wednesday at six twenty. We will do a dual of the decades we. We've. Vetted it out decided. We liked the bit. So we'll feed the animals at six twenty. Everyone's because we don't do things early in the morning optimism share to we have a lot of early risers out there. WHO deserved to be super served. Of feed the animals man. Man Beautiful morning out there honked Dawson last night, playing ladder off with look at in the front yard. It felt like fall. I felt like I should be putting on my football pads, which by the way even at almost fifty years old literally thirty years since I last put on football pads I still remember what it felt like to practice on nights like that. It's the weirdest thing man I don't think I hope I never forget I never sweater. Man's past fifty five degrees right now. In parts of the twin cities here, but it's going to get up to eighty two, and if you at the forecast for the next two weeks, it's like low to mid eighty S. With one or two shots at Ninety S, it's supposed to be eighty s for the foreseeable future. This ball your mind. Korea whatever your name is your mind. One? Week from tomorrow Abigail turns eighteen hundred. That's crazy. That's how long we've known each other Yup. Well, I know it I know it's crazy man. I started. I started here I WANNA. Say April of Oh to. I was April. March. Yes so just a handful of months before your daughter was born in yeah. Yeah just! Essentially, her her life is essentially the life of the to. Started with seven months before. Right. Yeah Yeah. Crazy. How about that? Does page sports is brought to you by our friends at Ryan says he can criminal. Front page sports presented by Ryan to see a criminal. Thank you. Almost hired him this morning. Yes, I did. Slow down I can see it though man acord if you read in his car yet. No. You have. Doria. You can't believe how fast, but he also do this cool little trick yesterday. Have you seen the the auto backup trick yet? Crazy we still tesla's. Here what they do. You know what they do, but if different to see it now. Sort of. Getting into tight space in China, open the door without during the car next to you. Sauce flips open an APP in the car itself up. Tight spot what? Why you don't have to time travel. Just you have a car from the future. Anyway. Slowdown Soda Man. You're not to go eighty miles an hour. Hit the flux capacitor yet the flux capacitor you'd have to do that. Man makes time travel possible it does. MYLES GARRETT IN THE CLEVELAND. BROWNS are finalizing a five year one hundred twenty five million dollar extension that would make him the highest paid non quarterback in the history of football. He's twenty four years old. He was the number one pick in two thousand and seventeen had ten sacks and ten games last year before being suspended for the final six games for hitting. steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph in the head holding. Helmet I? Forgot all about that. Yeah, right man now he's the richest. Non quarterback in pro football history. Yeah, he's dominant. has mannered. Yeah, yeah! Because remember when we were in London in hockey. You did a lot of scouting for the game. Yeah, well I am I. Do a lot of work, he. He he didn't play. He was hurt remember! They were yeah. That's not really good story, but yeah, he was hurt him, but it's weird. Because last year we went to Kansas City. And the MVP was her. True. God, who the Hell was the backup again? A. More. Right and we laws. Yes, yeah, well, there's final minute to. Pick I. DON'T REMEMBER No. Remember. I don't think he does that. Jeeves defensive tackle Chris Jones reached a four year deal worth up to eighty five million dollars, sixty, million, guaranteed thirty, seven, million, due at signing. Chris Jones again is the perfect Tom Johnson example right Chris Jones is dominant a dominant football, the most boring name ever it'd be a much bigger deal if his name was. Khalil, Mack Yeah, get a cool name and we'll pay attention Chris Jones. Or like Chris, lightning. Committed Constantinople at your sister's name. GSA trademark by the way of course what he did is I, switched Tom Johnson's named Sebastian Thunder Bucket Right, so he switched Chris Jones Chris Lightning until. College Chris Lightning Bucket I think of that. Story Right. City officials say that the fans are not going to be allowed both Eagles and Phillies Games twenty twenty year. God could lock, so it's happening. Is it the first. NFL team that flat out well, he's one hundred percent, not going to have fans in the rams say it because California I think made isn't i. didn't notice I think it was Baltimore that their city allows twenty five percent in there like we'll have twenty five percent yet. They're gonNA take it which means it'll be the the season ticket holders, and all the people who pay a ton of money to go to the Games I'll probably be allowed in the Games. I think life. That's even that's what's a standard season ticket holder base percentage of. Capacity like if there's. If there's sixty thousand people at a ravens game. Yeah, what percentage are season ticket holders? The numbers twenty five percent that the that they're only going to allow in twenty five percent. I would think there are more season ticket holders than that. I would think so too. I wonder what the number is I know. Obviously it varies from city to city, but. Like I bet it's higher here than most places when you agree, we'll like Green Bay. Ridiculously. So I mean, there's people listening for the Vikings at. Don't have to give their name, but they could shoot us that number with the approximate. SEASON TICKET PERCENTAGES FOR US Bank stadium. 'cause it's been what do you do? You have a lottery well, right? That's the thing I. think a lot of people even like. Good, friends of ours have season tickets that we all know you just give them the option. Do you WANNA go? No someone market a feel comfortable right so? I would guess pre lottery you eliminate. The people are opting out, but then once you get all of the people that are opting in, and so yeah, if I'm allowed to go, I'm going to go. It's over Max capacity. I would assume you have some kind of a lottery, or maybe it's because you don't want to do a long jetty thing and burn season ticket holders at our two years, season ticket holders versus seventeen years season-ticket. Either that what if somebody in their seventies season ticket holder for fifty years? You're going back I don't want to go this year but I. don't WanNa give up my seats. They're great. You would hope they opt out. They're not gonNA. Yeah I think almost every team said that if somebody ops out for a reason like that, they don't lose their spot. No or yeah, that was ever long. Acoustic and I'M GONNA guess. That was the keyword alarm. Yeah, we're planet to fast though. Slow that down did I didn't even sound the Siren? I think you're probably right yesterday. time for shots spotty grand in hand with our national Ganj contests text, the keyword rich to two hundred, two hundred to enter Santa Text, message and data rates apply. That's rich to two hundred two hundred. Time College named Juve Your Burrito yesterday. Did I. Thank Your Daddy. I do you know what I did I thanked him in the way that he likes to be thanked, which is. Hard and fast. Okay. ESPN canceled Kevin Durant showed called the boardroom after two seasons, it streamed on something called Espn, plus I literally have no idea what that is I also felt the same way either heard of it before Mike sounds familiar. Two seasons, they cancelled. It is no idea never heard anybody watching. Lebron's gotTA show I think. He. I think he also has one on HBO. Margaret again. Kevin Durant. Wasn't it similar? No idea like I thought like they had like other big time athletes, and then they just talked like I don't know I no idea athletes and movie stars and all that. I don't know either way. Tough break for Kevin Durant I don't know how he's going to rebound from this guy and I know we're all saying the exact same thing. The concept of the show right I. I really don't former Auburn coach. Tommy Tucker Ville beat Jeff sessions and the GOP primary for Alabama Senate seat. He coached Auburn from nineteen, Ninety nine through two thousand and eight to also coach Old Miss, Texas Tech Cincinnati so now he's going to square off against incumbent democratic. Senator Doug Jones, but Tommy Tub reveal. Speed Jeff Sessions Rainbow Alabama. Love that movie? Let's not do ten minutes on this jump out of window, but quick twitch. We'll take bud grant just because he's he's. Older. GimMe a Minnesota coach that you think could run for public office in Minnesota and do well. Regardless of party, regardless of politics, just think would have base flak. Yeah Go. It's a good one. guard, higher. I think. I think denny was still with us. On Denny. Gardenhire. Flex the answer I don't I liked? I love Gardy, but I just don't think he would be able to like. Keep a room interested in what he's saying for longer than. Too many nicknames right, I mean Flex campaign. Political speeches would be of course, we're being idiots. Sharif. Shero V. BLURT vote for her for president today Cheryl's e answer good Goodwin. They can. My what about them? No he to cross him wouldn't win. We don't even know Doug Dean's last name I. Think about it though thank you Mike Zimmer Zim. If he ran for office stolen one. He could have hockey seed faithfully on Cappella at his inauguration. Right. That's literally the most uncomfortable story of all time you should have been in can't imagine. With dancy, you literally had had three men looking at each other like this is awkward as Hell and puppy in the side of the room, jumping up and down, yeah. But you know I, guess I. Ask think about this think of think of the Minnesota public perception about like Brad. childress right. A lot of people like Brad's gotTa. Go Right. What if Brad childress? Completely lined up politically with you. In your like the? Children's gets it like this is exactly the kind of guy we need. Yeah. We're going to go man. We need PJ fleck. We need somebody with some energy but I don't. I don't think Brad's public image would give him any chance. In the state of Minnesota I think if Jerry kills health. Hadn't you know? Fallen apart on him. I think he would have been a good choice to people love Jerry. He's a good guy. But he was like. Yeah, he was A. Nice old guy down the street. Love Five. Anybody we're forgetting. What about, brewster! Ch- I got what about? The guys. Jacques, there's no doubt. I don't think anybody would have trusted him to get anything done. No, no! Mikhail's not that's not gonNa Work Right Tyson. UNPLANNED FOOT A flips. It answer would have been great flip crushed because he's. He's born and raised here. That helps sodas. Love the fact that he was from here and people. Love Flip. flips good answer. Yeah! What about Leslie Frazier Great Guy, yeah? It's not enough. Energy right no energy. What about CLEM HOUSE GETS? This hockey! How many candles do we need the Mayor of Columbia Height Remember that that's a little bit from the station. No, he would when he had an endorsement. And instead of saying Columbia Heights, he said Columbia I don't remember that. No, that was that was running on the station for some time. The top five bit Circle Pine Columbia Height. Like a lot of our people doing traffic from Chicago. All right, so we do Copay, do who? copay. Do. Deny that's. Yeah. Let's do dual the decades. You want to give us even a hint on what the battle is about. The same years as we did Monday, but a different topic or Eighty, eight versus ninety eight. Yeah, eight dominate nominated. Let's see if it doesn't this category as well. Good morning everybody. Clear the roads. Sauces out. Some only way, you can make a breaking the law by freaks. Better stuff have let me kill me for saying it won't be well. I never did I'm sick. I saw that they were spell. Right I never went to announce back. which doesn't make sense at all doesn't make sense. They were pretty I saw a couple of. Necessarily remember the line. I went to so many of those festival late nineties. Whether it's edged best x pests, war, tour or tour as best they all blend together I. Don't remember who I saw where I just know who I saw vans warped tour in its prime was legit. Everybody ever talked to you says. Blame sublime everything so. Real quick and I gotta deal the decades, one of my buddies, and I will laugh about this for the rest of time, but. The work tour. In Somerset, I think it was the year that they paired up with. It ninety eight with as fast fast. Yeah, he was we. Talked about once have been that though because. There was anyway three eleven was a part of the work tour. And they played like late afternoon on the warped tour stage right, so it wasn't a big main stage. It was like the backstage work tour was mainly whatever the main tour was was on the other big stage. Well, that was really the only ban. We were there to see afterwards. We're like we don't have a lot of interest in these battles. Get Out of here, so we were leaving. We're walking out of the parking, a rock into the parking lot, which is mostly empty right because everybody in the middle of the day. Everybody's stoned the concert. We're walking out in the guys from three eleven are walking to their tour bus. Parking! I don't know I cannot remember how old we were eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty, one I, forget. How old were. We couldn't believe IT I. got a picture got to say hi to right. We run over to them. And my buddy John Basically. For the teams, I'll take the picture. But we gotta get a picture of the somehow so you to get in there. I'll take the picture, so it was me and my friend. Dan and we're standing next to Nick Heck's in which is blowing our minds, because that's the guy that I worshipped at the time. Right still doing a lot of ways. Dan Looks Nicolas says. It's been too long, NICK! Sees. It's one of those moments right. Where in your head. You're trying to say like man. I've been waiting for a moment like this for a long time or like man. This is something I've been thinking about for a long time, and this is so cool that I finally get to meet you, but what came out because he was starstruck was it's been too long neck and the look on Nick's face was. I know the son of. He was so convinced. It was just. How were you write that I go to high school with you or something you look younger than. You didn't address that afterwards. They will be again. John will basically laugh about that the rest of our lives in once in a while just randomly text me, it's been. Really. Sure. I do somewhere sure between that and gotTA. Do it I mean. That same line out. I had no idea what to say to Jessica Simpson. When she asked me what I was drinking. Got It got to do it. And of course I said it will. I lowered my voice about nine. All right. AIDS Away from. Welcome to the power trip. than. Saying, stop started over the US. Zach, come up with an open for the decades compound to random quick. SOUNDBITE Something about being a bitch and then get to the chopper. Billion but. Predator! Like greatest. I got. Out of the studio again. It's early. Dates? Welcome to the power. Show, do you me? All right right. Sorry to spend too long Zach so if you remember on Monday we did do of the decades, we're going to move it to where today's at six twenty. That's from predators while the get to the. Anyway we're going to this permanently. The six twenty on Wednesday to super serve you early risers. Dual the decades and on Monday we did one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, top ten songs, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, just ruled as I told you guys what because it was much better to grow up in the eighties than nineties. Today we look at top ten movies from one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, and nineteen, ninety eight. Are. You ready sure. The Tenth Best Movie Top grossing movie I should say if one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight. Making one hundred and forty million dollars. The naked gun from the of the police were off to a good start number, ten, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight. I mean come on Pat Proft. Five all time period bruins brilliant. It's genius from this seconded starts to the very. The number ten grossing movie of One Thousand, nine, hundred ninety eight, two hundred, eighty five million dollars. She's and that was lethal weapon. Four never saw hideous lethal weapon to shreds. Four lethal weapon, two as a great sexy I will fully admit and I don't really. Have a reason to be embarrassed by this. I've never seen. More than like ten minutes of a lethal wanted to wail. Toilets scene were dame. Toilet bomb, but that's about it. The the first two are great. Really they're really good. Yeah, I'm. Voting for nine thousand nine hundred naked gun. I haven't seen either so go naked gun. Nick you haven't seen. That's sad for you. You should see naked gun you. Will you giggle I guarantee terrific the number Tandoori voting naked gun rain. Again. Got It pours the number. Nine movie of Nineteen eighty-eight made one hundred and forty million dollars as well, and that was the very first. Diehard WHOA. Yeah, man, right going to be tough. In nine thousand, nine hundred number, nine money-making movie was two hundred eighty nine million dollars. In Shakespeare in love okay? That graduated night i. told you guys. You grew up in the wrong decade ninety art so far so bad diehard mile! Tell me if you've seen either of those films. No. Diehard. Diehard had to right yeah Christmas time at some point Yes die hard and I love diehard diehard, the Bruce Willis version. The did you see the porn hub version, which is actually called guy hard. Seeing that one. and. Much. People don't know why nothing are. They have no idea they think I'm listen to third. One wasn't die hard. Three guy hard with the penis. So nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, two to nothing. It's just dominant guys I'm sorry you grew up in ninety S. yeah, the decade tonight. The number eight film of Nineteen, eighty-eight, a little movie called. Big. Spenders. This banks dominating it's up against. Number eight from one, thousand, nine, hundred, eight, the original well I should say. The Eddie Murphy of a Dr Dolittle Sucks. Courses Pitches it's not even close calls. Eighty eight was a great year for lottery, naked gun, diehard and bigger all classes. Dr Doolittle Shakespeare in love and lethal weapon four. Could fall off the face of the earth, and no one would care or socks case, so it's three ZIP. Now, we moved to the number seven film of Nineteen. Eighty eight. A fish called Wanda. Never saw a really I was too young. I know it's a comedy online right now Jamie Lee Curtis. Film The number seven movie of Nineteen Ninety, eight. Disney's Mulan. saw that. I gotta give it to Moulana. Again move odds. Gray Eddie Murphy as the Dragon. Hilarious, right? That's a great film. Ninety lawn win. What about you say I'm GonNa Malania. Did you seem a lot I've seen parts of? You, ever watch movies. No, what are you GonNa do I was three when it came out, but you've lived since then. True. We go to ninety one movie. It's a three to one lead by the way by my calculations by nineteen eighty eight right now it's the dual the decades. After number six now. Nineteen eighty-eight number six movie was Rambo three on. It's I'm not sure I remember Rambo Three Rambo threes where. What the Hell is ramble, we have clips you WANNA hear it. Yeah, we have Rambo will. Do you put some in? Yeah, specifically for the dual of the day. The scene. John. Rambo's just doing random. You'll be able to tell hero. To pursue you. Go, fishing that's up against a the number six movie of one, thousand. Nine hundred ninety eight, which is. Deep impact idiot, deep impact, suck and see. This. Is a disaster movie. Man Appreciate. Would've liked it, but I definitely GonNa go with Rambo Three. Vote for like not even not vote. Would like the first Rambo. Watching Rambo. And sacks voting for Rambo three. Deep impact though. Do. Right now it's four to one. scorecard. Number five in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety eight. Twins. Never I'd never seen what I'll be honest. I've never seen tonight either Danny Devito and Arnold. Did Not see it. Aren't they thinking about redoing that? Haven't heart. and. George Morrison. Yeah Shawn. Bradley George Mira. Is He still with I? Don't know it's going to be a good film of cast him. He's in my giant. With Billy Crystal. Number five twins in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty number, five and nineteen, ninety eight. Are To be a bug's life. Seen it but. It's good. It's really good ninety eight dollars. That's good. Seinfeld Lady Elaine is in that film. Julia. Right. Now, we're in the top four it gets. It gets hard here here we go. You're ready, blue, nineteen, eight hundred number four. Crocodile Dundee to well to number two. Don't remember to. See I. Don't remember the difference either. Isn't that the drug lord remember you've seen I know he had an. Out Dummy I was about to say. Isn't that the one where he comes to New York but it doesn't do that in the first one. That's that's that's the second one. I don't know it doesn't matter because the number four movie nine, hundred, Ninety eight. There's something about Mary. By Maya, math. It's not even close. Wait a minute number, ninety, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, making a comeback. Yes, something about Mary by A. Crocodile Dundee three round elected shelf. Zach seen something about Mary know. Internally disappointed you. One of the best comedies of. I'm sorry. Ben Stiller. It's not to laugh your ass off it. Though I've turned on him, he's fine. Okay. The dual the decades eighty, eight, ninety, eight top ten movies, and it's four to three eighty eight right now. It's coming down to the top three here we go. Somebody should let Ben Stiller now that you're on board with him now. A Nice thing that is nice man. He knows okay number three in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight. The royal penises clean. Sir Coming to America. Great movie rate movie I'd never seen so do goals. You've not seen McDowell. Sorry, you've not seen it. It's so good do Murphy. Just, freaking. Like. You Blink you. WHO's next so good so good? Number three movie in nine, hundred, ninety eight, though. Godzilla. That movie sucked. It's terrible. We go eighty-eight. Doubt Really Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Eighty eight yeah. That God's will move is a huge disappointment. I can't wait for Godzilla vs King Kong. It's five to three eighty eight with two to go the best they can hope for. This is the tie. In one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, the number, two movie of the year, raking in three hundred twenty nine million dollars, who framed Roger Rabbit. Okay Yeah, I love that movie. I'm surprised there was that popular, though to be honest with you. It was huge. It was like yeah cartoons humans. And Jessica Rabbit Rabbit. And that goes up against the number two movie of Nineteen Ninety Eight. Raking in four hundred eighty one million dollars. Saving Private Ryan Ninety Ninety? Eight Ninety eight close ninety one of the best films of all time. Five. Before they were trying problem no. That's right. Yeah, which is Richard Joke. That brings us to the number one movie of each year and it could save time for ninety eight. Let's find out. The number, one film of one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight. A! Little movie called Rainman. It. But you haven't heard what's number, one thousand, nine hundred. Eighty eight. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, raking in five, hundred, fifty three million dollars across the globe, trying to think what it could be should know this. The year I graduated High School Right Number One movie and Ninety Eight, because titanic was seven I would almost guarantee. You didn't see this film. I. Would I would almost bet you didn't. It's against everything you stand for Oh. Oh Man, there's so many things that could be. Trying to think of what Religion Angle am I missing? It's not religion. Psychic related now it's love ghosts related love related. You don't have any of that. Give me one actor actress from the just tell you. These soundtrack song was also a giant hit. The only number one song band ever had. Oh, yeah, is that? It's. Goud all's nope no. Exact. Oh Yeah okay! I could stay in Warwick hearing. Getting. The number one film of One thousand, nine hundred rain ran to class another win eighty eight. That's right for nineteen eighty-eight, proving once again that I grew up in the best decade, it was great to be young in the eighties. Strong comeback for ninety eight impact Dr. do a little. Know, Godzilla was such meanwhile. My friends or see naked gun diehard big. We're seeing coming to America. And Rain Man and who framed Roger? Rabbit should have switched to ninety nine with like Matrix in fight. Club might happen the next time we do. From. Gum to the. Morning shows dual of the decades. I wonder if we should turn dual of the decade, the old predictors. To Change. The sound bites every week. Because those didn't make any sense. Oh! What really matters is next scores and stats around the world of Sports Marnie. God y'all Gollner from Fox sports. North joins twenty minutes from now to explain her psychosis Moore's. Morning. Six, forty, five, hundred, zero, running a little late as we get into cultivated CBD. Sponsorship of what really matters. Thank you cultivated soobee cultivated CBD. Dot Com cultivated. All right, so let's get into some sports. Then you'll hit with something that actually matters. That's right, Dak. Prescott and the cowboys not even close to a deal. No talks scheduled for today and the deadline is today at three PM. I think this is going to be one of those deals where. A year or two or three from now we're all screaming. Dak Prescott going. Why did you not sign that deal because? Do. How about this the latest offer? According to reports? The cowboys were offering between thirty, three and thirty, five million a year. With over one hundred million guaranteed, you would have in the second highest paid player in football behind Patrick Mahomes. He's nowhere near the second best. What is he doing hurts better than sign the deal, Dude. I think. Is he out of his mind? Maybe I'm wrong is Kurt better than back. Is it just. Plays in Dallas. I mean these younger. But the point is the fact that we're even debating. I mean he was even if you vote Dak.. Thirty touchdowns, Jack's not the second best player in football, though and if this report is accurate, he was just offered the second biggest contract. Over one hundred million dollars. What watch him get hurt when he plays on the Franchise Tag. ACL or something. And then he never gets this money again just. Feel this is a massive deal. It's the Nerlens Noel thing, right. Right. You have an agent. Talk you out of it or over. Inflate your value. This is over inflated value, right? The cowboys are overpaying him, and he says No. Yeah. Crazy I think that's gonNA. Come back to haunt him, but. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I don't care. What really matters is at this point. The intro music for Seinfeld. But. It was slightly different in every episode that blows my mind that blows my mind that is composed to match the pace and cadence of Jerry. SEINFELD's stand up in the INTRO. Absolutely had no I-. No clue I thought I'll same everytime. Down the. Ended Yup. That's it. Thank you. Man. I'M NOT GONNA, go back and listen for differences, but that is crazy. That much work into an intro especially when nobody not really yeah, you know what I mean. Nobody noticed though wanted to. Just play. Get away from her bit. Arnold. Soundbites yeah. I mean everybody notices that the simpsons changes the on the couch, right? It's an obvious cool switch. They do A. Super Cool. But they're not hiding it. It's clearly a joke. It's a quick joke. I've never heard one person that has mentioned. Wow, this is a different Seinfeld than show this time. It's a little bit faster, we. Strange we had kind of a cool. Thank you. The wild have an exhibition game versus Colorado in Edmonton on July, twenty nine. That's fourteen days away. Two weeks away from wild hockey. Crazy. Afternoon game, and then the first two games of the playoffs are nine thirty, nine forty five PM. puck drops. Oh, my goodness worth the wait. What really matters? Is this the heads on Easter Island? Have bodies as well. They're just below ground really. Wow Man, thank. You didn't know that either nine. Man We're learning things that's that's what I WANNA do. The browns and myles Garrett or finalizing a five year one hundred twenty five million dollar extension that will make him the highest non-paid quarterback in NFL history. Think about that for one second K. Right? He's making a will. When the engine kicks in twenty, five million a year, that slightly more than Khalil, mack and Aaron Donald. That's myles. Garrett Khalil, Mack and Aaron Donald Back Prescott is being offered about eight million dollars eight to ten million dollars more a year Aaron Donald the best defensive player in the League and Khalil Max one one B, and I get it. It's a quarterback versus anybody else, but still i. All three of those guys are more important to their team than he is absolutely. One hundred percent agree and I'm and I'm not even that sour on deck I think could good quarterback. He's a good. He's good. DAX. Good yeah might even be slightly better than yeah, just good. He's not even close to being. If had best quarterback, I'd love him. While said, every team should be remotely relatively excited about having Dak Prescott. For sure we'd be pumped. Was the quarterback of the future on any team? Back up the brinks truck like Patrick Mahomes. When you throw the entire checkbook at this also is cowboys are doing. It needs saying no. This also is in a one time they've. We've heard for months now. These offers at they're offered every time he's like I. Don't want that. What do you want? Fifty one I mean I don't know he's he. I think he's losing his mind I. Think he's trust in the word of his agent. You know I mean that's what we'll do. That's what. They tell you can get more. Agent high believe it's Jerry Maguire. Committee Carlson like. Okay the guy's name is no joke. Dak Prescott agent. Todd France, that guy screwing him. It's a terrible. It's a terrible name. Okay, screwing Dak Prescott. Money why what really matters? Is this the medical term for ice cream headaches which get all the time? You're a quick review on cookie monster ice cream. My Gosh, the best ice cream of all time. Yes, it is. It's not even close to I. Anyway. The miracle term for ice cream headaches is spinoff Pantene ganglion neurology. Yes. That's Dak Prescott aging. That's Todd Oh. I'd. I'd still live there, probably beautiful yeah. By the way, do you remember The beginning of inglorious bastards. When Shoshana Shoshana has to run out from under the. That's what the part of France that we went to look like well, that's sweet deal. You can't believe it. You just can't believe you can't believe man. There's a couple of scenes in that movie. There are very few directors that could pull it off. Tarantino does but the the tension that you feel when they're under. The floorboards is insane I've never seen it. Whilst man, and he won the Academy Award for right, and then later when she's an adult, and they're having drinks, and you are trying to figure out the entire time does Kristoff know who it is like? Does he recognize her? Because she's terrified because she realized you sit in at the same table as this. Sauce. Do you should see English? Woes. And what about the scene in? The basement scene in the bar in the basement. I won't give any more than that, but I'm GONNA. Tell you by my estimate. There's tension to the point where your heart is racing for about sixteen seventeen minutes. That's how long that scene is. And the entire time you're on the tips of your toes, and so were they. Yeah, it's such unbelieving Tarantino. People that. Keep it that intense for that man, does he have you seen glorious bastard or not? Oh, yeah, of course! I just checking SASKIA on that do. Is We Tarintino. I bet we'd watch. We'd watch. We would while we, we'd watch. We'd update See If us if we liked Tarintino because does. Dude inglorious bastards is It's glorious. Watch way I would say yeah. The even get to the rest of the ice cream. Thing though that was was the fact that just the name of. Got It, got it even I was I didn't know if there was more to. More, there is an actual name. Okay, got I've already forgotten the name. Couldn't shake. Like France a last name that you hear once in a while, but. What if his name was? Todd Canada it would feel weird? Ron Mexico right, which was Michael. VICK'S Codename alias. What happened to that bit round? Mexico is a funny deal deal. What was the name of? Was Anthony Wieners. Oh, fake name. Was Carlos Danger Simple, like that yeah, right? Yeah Carlos Danger Rating. Manager new band. Harvey danger now it's Harvey. Danger Flagpole Sitta done. We're all over the place now, whereas naming things that we know. That is a great song. Great Point all right Marnie. Gollner joins when we come back. We'll do the news here in a second in the eight o'clock hour sauce. You Have Trivia game this week will do headlines no rose today. Marnie is more important anyway. She joins next during the news on the fan. Fan, Geno I went to break the but. I wanted to hear the whole thing so hurley's part of it so I. I came back with this. It's Flagpole Sitta. Ryazan Dayton's dangerous rock and roll station. She. Get. Started Still looks, but no one ever does Saudi. Great. Did. Ladies and gentlemen now entering the ring. I would like to tell you about mommy. Air More details of morning live good job morning. Show me the MOM. Your? Mom. Your. Mom. Like. that. I do not like that I do not like that. I do not like that. that. I do not like that I. Do not like that I. Do not like that I do not like that I do not like that. You can't overuse it obviously. Just adding to the list of movies that Zach has not seen. The drive in Jerry, Maguire? To see that's a great film. But I do continue to adore that intro and I thank you again. Zach job well done and thank you guys. You left the bowl outside of the door again and the stray came strutton by. says. Isn't it funny like a couple of months ago, maybe three? Months ago, it would always be text messages. Hey, can you what? What time and his Lincoln then it was hey, do you want to come in and do? What will you be here tomorrow? And now we don't even. Show up, just assume you. Know got nothing else to do well. In I mean let's be honest. We may be losing. Their will see. To my actual job, the one that pays me Oh actual money, also money thing. Yes Hey Look You've been unemployed for months. That's public information. I don't know I. Feel like your twitter lately been a cry for help. Financially lately, because it just looks like you can't even afford Graham crackers. And you use rich choice on US Moore's where. The hell. Are You doing this? Is that looks like someone who has never tried it? No, let's get. It is true I suppose. Mice more okay so Graham crackers are good a Graham crackers. Moore is good. Ritz crackers more is better. It's delicious. Delicious gram cracker can be a little dry. The Ritz Cracker think about it. It's buttery. Salty. Thing she is A. Look so gross. Yeah I can see though and. Salty and sweet. That's a good cats. Exactly at the chocolate is the sweet. The Ritz gives you a little bit of that salt and buttery. Oh! Yeah? We get stuff to make him. No okay I got. Is The boss so many? Revise to that good or bad? 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As the accelerator was launched that I was on some sort of valley, fair right Oh good for you and let out the sound of. Several Times where like the G force at me in the back seat. We were we hit fifty five. On the merging ramp before we even got on the main road, so I'm to guess speed them fifty. I don't think you're reckless, but I. I think it started with an eight eighty one. Eighty five, eighty nine. Eight. Eighty eight. That's the number. Led Me Astray. For, I feel like it was eight. Impeach in fifty five well. You're just trying to keep the double. Digits Five, five, one, okay, double eight. Is this a new. Game where Zach brings his laptop into the studio and connects it to the big monitor the. Chad it's being lazy. Has the the giant? TV screen here up to his laptop so. Parents really good for the listeners, but very very helpful for us. Open. Seven o'clock Marnie. Gillner Fox sports. North. That's cute. As the schedule for today, see sports on tonight. 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Before I go, my son says make sure to check what meets wherein the money get home. He's like what was Saas wearing? Yeah, more shoes releasing gas, right? What shoes you have on today, a football fan. Yeah, he's slides are already noted Jordan up they. More you ask her to be sauce. It is time machines. News. Presented by by your credit unions firefly's. I. Knew A car from the future Jordan flipflops. He's got a girlfriend. He's got a palatial apartment. Life's pretty good. Bad! Not Bad at all. Thanks to you d the B. Oh. It's time for national cash content. Yeah, that's right Paul text the keyword love the two hundred, two hundred to enter standard text message and data rates apply again. The Word is love. The two hundred two hundred right now. Yeah? You were. Love. That's the greatest button we have. Minnesota has been added to New York's quarantine list. On Tuesday governor Andrew Cuomo announced anyone coming from Minnesota we'll have to quarantine for fourteen days upon arrival. Well, then we're not coming. This is you to a reported increase in corona virus cases, New York also added New Mexico Wisconsin in Ohio to its list. Have we had up taken? I don't let that we were doing pretty good. Surprise. We had a slight uptick earlier this week. Highest number since like may single day number, but then went right back down. Chris, could you say Governor Andrew Again? Say Dan Governor Andrew Cuomo. That's I. Thought you said Is that not right? That's terrible. But meets CUOMO. I Apologize I. Just assumed it would mispronounce it. At. that. I do not like that saw it the worst. When somebody correct everything you say, not just the worst. Don't encourage party. I'm telling you that's why. You're the same person. She's just better looking. Than me, but otherwise attitude wise with the center family likes her. Do, we know that. You're assuming that Paul. Well. The CDC is now calling on all Americans to put on a mask help slow the spread of corona buyers. Did He saving incorrectly there? Yeah mispronouncing anything that sentence was fine. CDC leaders wrote an editorial in the Journal of the American medical. Association they argued studies show universal masking could lead to the US getting the outbreak under control This comes the same day CDC Director Robert. Redfield pushed for both the president and vice president to set an example where masks. Half of America, said get off my, lawn. That train has left the station. That's correct we could have. We could have Tom Hanks. Come to the microphone today. Somebody that's universally loved and say look. Every effort in the world has just told us if we all wear masks for the next six weeks. We can basically squash this thing. We can get back to normal. We just gotTa wear masks for the next six weeks. It wouldn't happen. It's that trains is left the stakes right YEP. Let's say it takes two and a half months just ballpark. But football season. Well I. Just just do it, I, just I don't you know it's one of those things where you have an argument with somebody and you know one hundred percent year right like? Let's say you've watched a movie a minute ago and at the end of the movie. You're having a conversation in that person's Robert Redford in them moving right now I just watch it. He's not in it and they're like. Yes, he is, and you're like. I just I just want. That's the same conversation I. Feel like I'm having with people who don't wanNA masks I don't understand. Not Try to take away your freedom. Yeah I understand it's uncomfortable, but. Nobody like there's I can't imagine a scenario where I'm saying to you. I'm going to get you to do this because I. Want to take away your freedom. I don't know how that equates from one to the other I. Don't get it. We're all in this together. Put the damn mask on, I. Did hear one of the best analogy. Taken a little morning. John designed to do something this afternoon. John My neighbors up as well. Yok. Physical activity with my neighbor Erica. You guys know you love her. we were talking about the mass about same thing. Like what is it? That's polarizing. It's not. That it's not political in. She equated it to at the airport. You have to. Take off your shoes. And how we all hate that, but we all do it and we didn't used to have to take off our shoes, but then something happened, and now we have to take off her shoes, and we just do it I don't get. We? The lesson the future we'll have to wear them. It has nothing to do with trying to take away your freedom I. Don't understand it. It's just because something happened. And now we have to try to make it better in his temporary. Unlike the shoe thing right, which might be mostly permanent. The mask thing is temporary. Is More effective to Yeah, and you and you're going to get a ticket if you don't have your see about on when you get pulled over doing eighty eight miles now unless you're sauce, I had my CPA. Matter he wouldn't have. Asked sorry people like don't people raise hell about that? You know what I mean I don't understand the difference. You're being forced to put on your seatbelt. And you find with that. Even if you're not fun with their, maybe those maybe the people who are fighting the masks also don't wear them. And for the most part I walked in of like many times I I'm so I. Go to target I'm so pleased to people have their mask just makes me feel like okay cool. You might not WanNa wear that, but we're all in this together. I love that I love that feeling of community like you know after nine eleven. Everybody's like we're all Americans. Let's do this. You know Ever not again you'll run across. One Guy who looks at you like to. Look at. You were in your mask and I just want to beat them with a shovel, right? Why are you being like this? And again we all know me wearing. My mask means I'm not going to infect you if I have it so I'm literally doing it for you. It's GonNa keep me from catching it. It's GonNa keep you from catching it if I ever and let's face it I got a lot of stuff you don't want. The most most of it doesn't come from your mouth, though most of the air well. You know there's different ways to get there. You know what I'm saying. Don't go down that you are the you are a courteous, considerate human being. If you appreciate that about you if you see me without a mask spray, 'cause forgot one hundred percent I forgot. I got when I was like Damn. It and I go, if I remember, get it I'm not saying perfect and senator understand I. Don't understand the choice of not wearing, don't. Okay so box! Now that we know how many people are ase symptomatic. Right. So. You think you don't have it, but. You know you don't know you just don't know lots of fun. If you've been putting off during your taxes well, the minute literally is here. Today's the deadline. Today's the day the extended Cova deadline July fifteenth. Should do that. I did it in February. It's good for us. That tax return back. No wonder you're spending like crazy. UNCLES MY, account Your Office Marin County. Right I just got done yesterday. Did. They need your survive. Not not the best. I'm sorry. Did we drive separations? Two things you celebrate at the casino are things you celebrate later. Marnie this is your future. We were trying to convert you to be a Max Bedroom. Yeah, BUTTON PUSHER! The downside when you hit huge is explaining to Matt. Why taxes are going to be different this year. The paper trail has to be explained. Chris, loves and Hates Tax Day loves it because he can look back and go man. I crushed this year hates it because he has to look back and go man crush this year. Now I have to tell. Across. The person speed Max Bet. Yourself into a different category I'm not going to say then. So, my goodness well life insurance. I love it man that day he dreads the most is going to the tax You have no idea meeting one year to explain your bought. How much he's one often went on. Who Saves the day? Your uncle correct does it helps me out so much. Yeah, he's the best to kind of all tied. I'll tell you this if I ever have the widowmaker I guarantee you. It's in the tax office. Guarantee and Timo keep talking to you and my wife will be praised Jeez I got my wish. For you. Have you been lately. The tax. Do Mistake or Friday okay, never go thing not much to report. No I went to the ATM less ready. Sudan then what happened? maxed it out well. Let's just say tax day twenty twenty one is to suck. Really thinks we're back to go. Sit in the buffet and eat while they double checked your machine. Believe the map. But I did That buffet whales. Does. Yeah I had a very very good I can't wait to hear about I. Go, aren't they? They're playing poker now, aren't they? Yeah? Essentially, all Minnesota Casino. Running. Like a free three week stay, please come down here. We need your money. Did you lose already. He wouldn't tell us we did. Yeah, we would know. That's all I. Do is Liu so. Tell you. There's just tell you air. Oh. Oh Hockey attacks the other day to target bill days show off. You're on the right path, but. Boy. Can't wait didn't closer and very excited. And finally a Smart Restart Task Force is coordinating nineteen testing for students returning to North Dakota college campuses in the fall. Officials say thirty four mass testing events will be held for college students across the State during the second and third week of August. He legislature's interim higher education committee heard a presentation yesterday from top officials, outlining the university systems plans for on campus instruction, including hybrid course. All right that's great to that age group. That is becoming the largest positive. Testing age group, they say that, right. Now Nobody Ripley's. My guess is just. Ignoring the guidelines the most right? Yeah, that age group is like we're. We're not gonNA. Get Sick. WE'RE NOT GONNA die from it, so we're not going to care as much in their just test, positive left and right, and probably most as symptomatic, so they have no reason to think that they sh-. Going right right. So, you go. That is the news. Thank you the Firefly Credit Union. Let Sportsman. Back I run a little bit late, asking. Quickly go through a quick sports update right after this when we return with Marnie Gilmour on Fan. On the. Seven, twenty seven right now it is July Fifteenth Twenty twenty a Wednesday. Good morning, everybody. It's hard to. Cope Paul Number, my name is Chris Hockey There Zach halverson. Marnie goners. Here's well. What happened, let's. Say! Free Poker online the giant TV. Just playing gave them it's. Spies distracted. He's box for the wiki whatever he wants. Only one way to rock. Speaking of that Saturday night. Friday night Saint Michel. On stage at some point. And Alex Kills Open. Force should be fun. Come on out. Say Michael in the parking lot. Hey, social distancing concert tickets, Bill Ladies Room, Dot Com. You might as well come on a beautiful evening and watch them live music. That's this coming Friday night. Did you see. There was a concert in Dickinson Great White! And they you know there was. There were too many people there too close, and then they apologized afterwards i. get the hat. Did you know at the time? It was happening that? Is probably not the best idea. Is Close to where you grew up. Now. Only Dickinson you'll know is in the far South West. Corner thought so North Dakota Hockey I've actually been played a show their hot swear Madeira is black hills all that. Or they the town with that cider. Bakkies. Dickinson CIDER. Yeah, so that's a that's Friday the. Terrible. It's not even the right joke. Silently. Green, there's another show I gotta tell my mom. Don't bother. Listen I. Do not like that. Correct. Play a concert. Friday night lame music room say Michael. Will, that be, I think we'd probably go on like at eight thirty or something I. DunNo. Concert on the mile. No, I don't know much. The wild season will open back up with the next. Exhibition game averse the avalanche. First versus the avalanche on Wednesday July, twenty ninth at one thirty PM. Corrected you. Well, we had this debate like a week or two ago because he always says verse. Not Versus in really. I would just say. The wild play are. Lower MOM Kanye's trash. She's going to skip the podcast. Our numbers are going to plummet. She loved us well this podcast and the other one both of them. Get both. She's been on the podcasts by phone Ron Burgundy. Here. She's missing. Lola is not miss. Really was. She did not go to Alaska and board a plane. Do not. Believe, Lola's the girlfriend of Bugs Bunny, yeah? That accurate I think that's right. Is She liked Cherry Cola? I think so. More Sports. Byron Buxton is day-to-day with a mild foot sprain. It was thought to be much worse, but it's not. Fair Twins Inter squad game tonight that can be streamed live on the twins website and Fox sports north website, and it will include Dick. Bremer and Justin Moore know who. What about Marnie? You're not going to be there when the twins verse the twins. Are, you not really. Tonight now it's. It's little test run I think that I in watching. Not Involve. them out. Marathon butane. No I'm not doing that. Back. So, you have a job. I'm protesting. Unless they run a world to marathon and I'll probably. Hockey, would you watch that? Yeah, sure. Chiba gave defensive tackle Chris Jones a four year, eighty five million dollar deal and sixty million guaranteed. The browns gave myles Garrett a five year extension worth one, hundred, twenty, five, million, which one hundred million of it is is guaranteed a dollar. An hour is the will be the highest paid defensive player in the League. And according to Adam Schefter. Barring a dramatic last minute, the Dallas cowboys and their quarterback. Dak Prescott. Will Not reach an agreement before today's four PM deadline. The tip of energy. Back. Into fast. Then I screw up ladies and gentlemen. Could I please have your attention? You know twenty twenty just keeps getting weirder and weirder and weirder. This has been a rumor for a long time, but this is in. A courtroom now. Have you been following the Johnny Depp Amber heard stories all Gilman. I have not been following it I've heard A. Couple of tidbits. tidbits include you know there's a lot of cheating accusations tumor together like that. She slept on muscular I three some allegations. Who Cares right? They're both celebrities are super cares. But the weirdest one that continues to get weirder because now they have to talk about it. There's testimony. And I read. Testimony and Johnny Depp's libel. Trial against a British tabloid. Went into the toilet yesterday, literally because Johnny's made offered testimony about poop that somebody left on his bed, crap, man, Yup, and as you've probably heard by now. Johnny claims at either amber heard, or one of her friends defecated on their bed after ambers, thirtieth birthday party in April of two thousand sixteen Crowley Johnny wasn't there. Because of a massive fight he had had with amber heard to skip. Your gals thirtieth birthday party by the way. Fighting. Crap. So supposedly, it was left there for him to find. In a written statement. Man The maid said she in another housekeeper found the pile the next day and it was. Still fresh. The bed crap to bed. Do they have any pets well. Yes, I, we're getting to that. It's unbelievable. You said that you said quote. It was clear to me though that this was human feces. I knew that the feces could not have come from either of Mr Depths or MS herds to small dogs I have cleaned ten for those dogs. Many times in their feces are much smaller further. I have never known those dogs to defecate in the bed I'm GonNa say that crap. The comeback to that would be I would assume she had never known Mr Dapper MS heard to also crap in the bed. The made also provided pictures of said feces which you took because she was pretty angry about it. I think proud. Made said in her statement at Amber confronted her about the pictures saying they ruined her marriage all. She also tried to claim that there was never any poop on the bed in the first place I saw the picture mantle of the. Photos are what ruined her marriage. It's definitely crap, man. The May didn't want to argue with amber. Because quote, she had a bad temper in my opinion, and I did not want her to yell at me. After the maid's testimony was red amber herds rep issued a statement saying quote. This accusation is completely untrue and has been designed purely to humiliate MS heard. Mrs. Ms Herds A statement on the. Oh. No we did not. You're actually haven't wow. That's great work on the news guy here predictable. History of Miss her. Can you respond to these allegations? I. I one so much. Now Tax Day twenty twenty. One is going to be uncomfortable. I the house. That was the button curse. On the stand that was what you understand. That was a rebuttal Yep. Rebuttal. So your mom's not gonNA. Listen to this episode here. Not even listening. Anyway, that's the greatest poverty through the weirdest. My God. Ended up on the screen. That's the real proof man. That's it. Tell me poop. My God I can't. Genius. There's a picture and again. Her name's amber heard those. Amber! I. Did Barreiro already do this story. That's hockey. Got The Idaho because bumper talking about it. Man. It's weird Marnie and. I know this is stupid. I'M GONNA say it anyway. Like a lot of us to think that pretty girls never go to the bathroom at all. An amber is one of the prettiest woman on the planet, so to think that she goes to the bathroom at all blows our minds, but that she would do it on a bed in that's I. Don't know like it's hard to process that. sometimes I. I don't understand you people. Why is it still on the screen? No, he took it down. Oh Grow Ashtray gamper third. I I don't even care. If its thirtieth birthday she's hammered. Just can't imagine her doing that, but apparently she must have either friend one of the two. Yeah, maybe maybe one of her friends, but not too small dogs. That'd be like nine small dogs. Yeah, and they somehow. Glued them together as a goof? You know whose parents going to be listening to this segment do I. Yeah, he's GonNa love this podcast, but Lola's out. Low is not listening to this trash. Well, she got. This is important. News. Light Repulsive News. Trial if we don't do it. Rarely. Team defer team heard there just in life. Or team you don't care. Team Radley shouldn't have gotten together in the first place. So let's just move on Yeah. It's sad. said I I heard something about Johnny. Depp. Parents Maybe pairing like teaching him how to do drugs or doing better drugs like twelve. They didn't want him just expected. Him talking to do they have kids. Does he have kids? So, it was him talking about having a twelve year old or something in. Smoking joint with him and showing him how to do I. Don't even know drugs. Or something. Yeah, that's insane, but it was more than just A. It was like road. Let's do this cocaine because I. Know It's clean. It was like twelve or thirteen year old. I have a twelve year old just. That's. Your twelve year old doesn't do clean cocaine or dirty cocaine. No, that's correct. That's correct. Twelve year old is thrilled because. We got a trampoline you did. Or did Ron Johnson just give you the hookup? Ron Johnson gave me not n- nothing, but didn't even. Johnny. One of the trampoline and the kids loved it and made it happen. Yeah, I'll tell you where we where we got it where we found it go now. After the break. Earnings. Gases now. Johnny Depp sped. To the fan. Hey. What's up everybody. Read back to the power trip morning. Show so story of that commercial break it'll be. It's over here. That's exactly right sir. Occurred and now we do this. Time Four Vikings News Talk. Presented by. Yes code. Thank you go. Hey, can I try something quickly? I just thought of this when I sit that button. Marnie I hit a button. You tell me which character it is okay. Okay. Okay, that idea is terrible. Chris prager very clear. The story of that commercial break is it's over. That's the pervert. Hurt and happily. John Raphael's literally that we're. The best the sister bit. I never worked hard on anything. What a cool life! It's Tom Haverford. Me Start over and speak differently. swannee Ron Swanson. I'M GONNA. Cut Right to the chase. I. Don't like charity I don't get. It feels to me like I'm giving money away and getting nothing in return. This runs hard. Yeah, he's. He it's win. Tom Have heard goes for a job interview. and. He's sitting across from the guy and the guy is in the good place. He plays Derek. You're not there yet. Are you Chris I? Don't know who the names but I do like it very much could show. He's got curly hair. What does his job in Ponti? I'll give you that if you can just go. Now I can't. He's the like Cologne and perfume mogul. Fine Status Yeah. Yeah saw in Las. Vegas, didn't we? Actor! Jason. Matt Zaccheus or something I forgot his last name well. They're white people from Minnesota, so hockey fishing skiing sailing, and after a few drinks put on a prince album. That's Adam Scott. That's his real name. was also in a good place. is He really yeah, yeah, he plays. Good play. I Lesley's boyfriend comes in with Chris. traeger molly can is Adam Scott. Ben Ben Ben. W. Ben Wyatt Wyatt's. You have killer dumpster. Here that again. You have a killer dumpster. I that it's the dirty guy that works at the sewage department. Tells you? He got fired protection everybody picture of his. Surfaces like once a season. This is something pervy always. Everybody that works for okay anyway. Does Vikings new. To follow that up just to check in because hawks started watching the good place. And then I texted me was like a loving the good place and I never heard again. He was that two episodes. Are You binging? Or what does that mean? We we binge the entire first season. We're about start sexy. We liked him very very much. You've got to the end the twist. Come at all when eleanor strap goes. Holy mother, forking shirk balls. Is Great She's serious. Notice how I slowed down great though. Great she's she fantastic that. De, my wrong not. Great I I don't understand how more people haven't watched that show. It's very good. I'm one of them. I should because of the writing and the quick and does Jason Mendoza. The things he says now he's great unbelievable. Yeah, the whole show great. Having I. Haven't given into shy, but you know who we should have on this show sometime Persson Bell. And Johnson and Michael. Oh getting closer. Joe Mandy. No I'm here. Yes, he is from Saint Paul same high school as Knicks, and who is he? He is on the good place he wrote. Writes and produces he was. He was also a writer in parks and recreation, and he did a couple of cameos he was. He was in camp. He is the fire monster in good place. If you've ever gotten that little character, he seen Santa. Opened up for Z's sorry at Ti years ago, because then he wrote on. Party of my story of non life master master of none. He's all NAT world. He played a character of the boyfriend on modern family. The girl the. Recognized Joe if you saw. The name you'd recognize him. He does live in L. A.. But he is like he's in your wheelhouse. He's in that comedian writer. I mean Iran bond parks. On the show, let's let's do it. Right there. He's up onscreen. Arenas Ahl Zach Jason. You got two minutes. durst thrown an orgy on a partially capsized. My Dad just texted. It already started, so we'll get right to the point I listened to your. Your terrible. and. It's not even close to one of the better line. PARTIALLY CAPSIZED YACHT! Fred durst would do. Rain Is Forty Kristen Bell is. Delightful S. January Janet distraction right the four canal. Is there in the good place they can't switch. Let me show you my bottle. I should warn you. It's a little messy talk. That I am almost positive is Joe Mandy line? It's the man cave, but Jason Mendoza Calls Bud holds all of his bud. Hang out. My bottle. One. You is a little messy Gotcha. Great! Yet it's so. It's really good, very clever interesting. I have no idea what they're gonNa do with the seasons. Big. Win. I saw that twist all right more importantly, speaking of tweets. Oh. Where did you? Where did I get? Lease, where did you get that jump? Alina used to be called a jump Elaine and then your mom jumped on and one. Brilliant. Thanks scale. You are Smelly, pirate hooker. Trampoline, I got this. We got this trampoline at the mothership of all stores which opened last Saturday in Eden Prairie. Eden Prairie Center. It is the anchor where sears used to be, and is now the home. shiels. Thinkers. shiels. That's not the one we gotten, so it shiels grand opening. I had heard they would be selling trampolines. I got no meat. Sauce Treatment I went the day it opened open at nine thirty, and my kids wanted to go at nine. I said we'll go at nine fifteen. Nine fifteen there were. Two hundred and fifty people in line outside the store went down to. Barnes and noble and around. It is look at that store. She is beautiful were waiting. Or they just want to let me tell you. Let me tell you, so we get in line and ingredients like don't say. It don't say the word simply because they shiels didn't advertise it or anything, so we were just going assuming they had some we had heard. That they'd be selling a couple of. The guy in front of US star Chitchatting for a minute, and he's like I'm here by something that you can't buy in stores right now and we all go. Everybody's ever the Tripoli. He shows me a photo of what he's there for ammunition. A specific kind of ammunition. It's a box and one box. Is. Two hundred dollars. That's not only got either. So I'm like okay, but and he says to me I bet half the people in this liner here for Ammo and I'm like what? You got to be kidding me, so the doors open. We all get in in that first wave. We employees are all lineup clapping. They welcomed us into beautiful shiels. We go up because we know you got be up the stairs right so everything. No I'm get up the stairs at the top of the stairs in this room. Hordes of people we are all wearing masks. Thank you. There's a woman directing traffic and I just said. Do you have any trampolines and she goes? Yup, they're right over and as she. Walked as she's pointing. To the left, my son starts running down the aisle, running and sure enough. There was a trampoline. On display. And and one woman being held in one worker man and we told them we want him to trampoline the trampoline. And then. After, we got the trampoline. A lot of people there. Set up for deliveries. We did that. And then we just wanted to go through the star to see what they hand. Brand new. was. Well, we're back up on the second floor. And there's a line of people. And the line is snaked around. They actually have barricaded so then people form a Z or A back and forth deleo. They were in line for. The APP Paul Ammo. Two, hundred and fifty people. And you're worried about trampolines. Right and everybody else is shooting rounds, and you're the one person that was there for a trampoline. The trampoline you got, you got it once we so there was a line outside the store, but there was a line inside the store. For AMMO. Big of a box. You have to carry around. It was. AMMO. Grand Opening, not not a large data large ox. I like the. Size of a cheese, its box for example, the small one. No. And what I need to know is what. Planned Right Dad. Kept. down. So, bad in the. Zach thanks gun violence. For hunters out there which is what I hope this. Who? House. Wow. I spent last Tuesday. I was. The show stupid. Story Mola's missing. Reminding. The kids! I. Love the trampoline. Question is. What kind of Is Not available in stores right now. That shields had some sort of limited quantity and applied as everybody wanted no idea and need it right now. Hockey used it all. Don't know to question, but I will say this. In conclusion, trampoline is beautiful. Our children are so happy. Greatest keeps looking out the window and saying I can't believe that's our Oh. It's awesome and that store is meg -nificant I grew up with a shiels in my not. And I've been to the Fargo she has a thousand times. Saint Cloud Mankato whatever so it is, that's what it is. It's not anything different, but it is bigger than those it's. It's new clean, new beautiful. There's an aquarium you walk in you go underneath the Fisher around you, it's spectacular. Strain. Sorry. Well. She's GonNa know. The airwaves. Fan Five when we come back headlines at eight twenty sauces Trivia at eight forty, the power morning show with the trampoline owner herself Marnie gone. They're good for you. You bought one and you survived it. Fad. Ryan Leith. Marnie story when lawn. The school though seven. March morning. Thanks, for tuning in turn sports quickly because we actually have to ask about something else related to her. It's time for Fan. Five brought to you by builders and. REMODELERS Be Brown's myles Garrett are finally five year one hundred twenty five million dollar extension that will make him the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. He's going to make slightly more than Khalil. Mack and Aaron Donald. All right. the chiefs also are a reaching a four year eighty five million dollar deal with Chris Jones up to eighty, five, million with incentives and stuff, but sixty million guaranteed thirty, seven, million, due at signing for a guy with a super boring name, but Very dominant outs. To High School at the Chris Jones. Did you that's a great? Dollars. He was smart. He was nice looking? To you. Did. You try to date him. What book is this I'm starting to thinking about writing a book about Marnie as well yeah. With. Christian of the Sierra. Katie no, that was a C H. Okay. So, is this one? This is Dan exciting stuff. Philadelphia City officials say no fans allowed a eagles and Phillies Games in two thousand twenty. that's too bad because everybody philly seems so respectful and Nice I'm sure they would have kept. Their distance would have worn masks. Of course I'm sure the city of Philadelphia would've absolutely been a bunch of rule followers. What is the the point though of coming out now in saying that? Because the end of the eagles season is December January, whatever and it's an outdoor stadium right so? What if at some point you're like? You know what it really makes sense to put ten thousand people in here safely I believe they've canceled all major events until February of twenty twenty, one what they defined major events. Maybe there's a an attendance number, but. That's what I read this morning on twitter. They're going like seven months out. Just maybe we're not doing anything. For the next seven, the city saying we're putting our foot down. We're not going to be part of the problem I guess, okay, all right philly fourteen days from today. The Wild have their first exhibition game against Colorado. That will be in the bubble in Edmonton. Four days from now I haven't heard that one in a while. ESPN canceled. Kevin durant showed the boardroom after two seasons uh-huh. Devastated. I'm not devastated. I didn't watch. It was on ESPN, plus that's the thing. Yeah. guardless. Former Auburn coach Tommy Tucker Ville. Beat Jeff sessions and the GOP primary for Alabama Senate seats on. He'll now square off against incumbent. Democratic. Senator, Doug Jones, but irregardless. reveal. is in the running to be a senator. We asked this question earlier Marnie. Maybe you weren't listening. You probably weren't definitely wasn't. Out of all the coaches you've ever dealt with in the twin cities. What's the forget politics just in terms of personality? Who would be your choice to run for political office? Personality meaning, most likeable in genesis or like. All of that politics doesn't matter what side of the Al doesn't matter what their policy is or are just. The shirt I'm wearing right now. Minnesota Lynx out. My answer will be Cheryl Reeve I was Chris. Angie will get the job done. Not a bad answer showers Leslie. nope Leslie Nokia. We down to basically Cheryl, flip or PJ flooding. He for speeches PJ. That's par for the likability yeah. Doing well sure that helps okay. I thought for all of them are good. Dak Prescott and the cowboys apparently are nowhere near getting a deal done in the deadline three PM. Today, otherwise of just play under the tag. Cowboys have reportedly offered thirty three and thirty, five million, a year with over one hundred million guaranteed, he would be the second highest paid player in the NFL behind Patrick Mahomes. But it sounds like he's not taking the deal. And I don't get it, but I don't. Know? What do I know speaking of money. Big Race tonight. Oh. Maybe maybe very excited. You're excited for you. Do you! What's the name of the? I do I. Know exactly what you're saying long. This horse horses name is machos. Vision, Machos, vision who named it because of the trainer I, think because the horses look I'm going to get it wrong. Mom's name was much arena and the dad's name was something vision. Something like that, so it wasn't an out of the blue name. We are part of an ownership group I believe our share turns out to be five percenter something. Very low end sure, but we. She raced at Canterbury. A month ago three weeks ago, and she finished third, which is called show, which is called in the money in the money. And she goes tonight in a big race like a fifty thousand dollar race Cantieri is. Your horses something like ten to one at least a day or so as of last night, she was ten to one hundred, one super, super, long shot. That's in the midst. Yes. Yes. Yeah and she's. She's new she's. Just, getting her a hove's under her. We're GONNA love her up. I gotta take my son to a baseball practice so. The race. I'll watch it online. Daddy will be there. You could to ride the horse anytime you want. You get to feed it. To take pictures of it, I'll be honest. I don't know well I. Wonder Normal non-co vid circumstances. We would be doing those types of things. We haven't done anything with her this this time, so I was told years ago because we talked about doing municipal power to a morning show like going in horse this show. So I was told that. If you get into Ho horse, ownership, norm sterling to say that Horse Ownership. So close to San. Hor Everytime Yeah! If you. Get into horse ownership. You have to really do it for the love of the Horse, because you're most likely, not gonNa Make Money Act. It's more of it's just exciting. You're part of a team. If money comes your way, that's super, cool, thick, an added bonus, but it's more for the fun of owning a horse and watching him or her race yet. It's not a great moneymaker. Although this horse, she's from Oklahoma to say, and so she did win a race or two in Oklahoma enough that we probably don't need to pay. A bill for a while, but we're not burdened by no means swimming in it, but we did own a horse. Let's say five years ago. All we did was. Pay For the food, the treatment, the injury the transport. There was an. She stepped up. On an anthill! Rosie and yeah, that was not lucrative, but you. If you want better information than I'm currently giving you, you know the host of the next show. Does some work well? He talked me into buying a horse years ago. Brands Right, yeah, okay in a couple of other friends that I, asked about it, basically said what I just said that you got gotTa. Do It for the love of the race, not for the actual money and get various. Things like if your horse, horse. Races at Canterbury then your whole group, if it's like a bunch of buddies that you grew up in Saint, cloud with, and they all are in on it, and they just love, even if it's a Wednesday night at five o'clock, that'll be your. Row Time In your butthole. Call. When all the guys are just hanging out and. Beers and going to canterbury and you know it's is drinking and gambling, which is great pastime. Yeah, so it's it's not real lucrative, but this one's been were not in the red. Gotcha. Well. Wait for you good los. Altos Vision Machos Vision. Let go see your tonight to five o'clock race Canterbury. Can we go here? We. Yeah, you. Can you go to Canterbury yeah absolutely. Machos When I was there three weeks ago we did go online and make a reservation because there was a head count I don't know what they're doing now, but. I had beer I had a grilled chicken sandwich. It was just like the Canterbury of old, and it was beautiful. I'm sorry. No, you have a good. I had a grilled chicken sandwich. and to bud lines. Speak out thanks for late that. Stuff inch man that sounds wonderful. WHO Good Luck! Thank you to see her win. More so for the women's Movement and actually yeah. Yeah Yeah, I agree. Being in the money would be good. Tonight or you're GONNA go hiding. I probably won't tonight, but I would like to go to the horse races. If MONTEZUMA's revenge is running or whatever. Funny Headlines when we come back Sausage Trivia in about twenty minutes. This is the power to your morning. Show Marnie right here on the fan. Win that were. It's a Marnie. Wednesday at eight twenty three poucher morning. Show no this week. He's on vacation. The rest of US are here we're on. Tickets to a concert one second away from another meet. SAUCER Trivia contest. I you know what I'm Talking Abou? Hustle and get the headlines. We gotTA DO Trivia next, that's. Right Just sauce yeah? Hit the INTRO. No, let's go now. It's time for. Start, big here Marny what's swing with the analyst. Right off the bat. With committee it could be the key to finding a vaccine for humans sorry. Koalas with COMMITTEEA could be the key to finding a vaccine for humans. That's good news for dwy Koalas like riddled with. Really. Bad Man. It's not an exaggeration takes one man looking to try to figure it out. Cover that Rascal Yep. A guy from San Diego who wanted for a double murder. We're supposed to take your head of me. A guy from San Diego. Who is wanted for double murder was found dead in Mexico. His name is justice love. Peace Oh. WHAT'S IRONIC? Dead. Dead. Was Saul Goodman on the case, so it was New Mexico right before he died. Maybe he should have heard this story. A study found that hearing is the last sense to go right before you die. That doesn't surprise me. Hearing his last. I don't know. A one hundred seventy eight year old vampire slaying kits is going up for auction next week, and it's worth around thirty seven hundred dollars and got I'm not even kidding when I say that sounds like a manager, I'm not. That got really really hot. At one point really were killing a lot of people thinking they were vampires. Relieve. Yeah we like with what what is the? What is the correct? Yeah Yeah, some kind of crossbow with A. Wooden stake shooter. Maybe who knows I've seen van helsing once I'm I supposed to know some Hagar Ross, run on Roy up. SUGAR COOKIE AMS are coming for the holiday season this year. Shit her again, cookie. Yes, so. Has Been doing this for years now where they have a whole bunch of different flavored eminem. Like. Cappuccino rude ever. Sugar cookie however does not have chocolate, so is it eminem's chocolate and sugar, cookie or just the shape of an Eminem? EMINEM and Sugar Cookies Okay Right Defense Moore's Muslim eminem has been doing this, but everything has had chocolate I feel like in it like a coffee flavored chocolate. He's on that flavor. It's just going to be. I think this is going to be chocolate. Flavored like sugar cookies well. Sugar cookies don't taste like chocolate. They're going to do it. It's mad then. Why would you do anything? You did a peanut butter? EMINEM just leave it. That's pretty close. Little tiny ones nominees saves. Love, those things, an inmate escaped from a maximum security prison in North Carolina by posing as a janitor, but the he was caught the same night. Did the old janitor trick. Dirty prison. Teenagers are posing. As elderly people yup to my buying alcohol Janus. Putting a mask put on masks and. Induce a makeup wrinkles and I was getting a at Casco like three weeks ago. And actually joked with the gal about that because I had to show my id and I'm like. Check ID's right now. She's like yeah, it's not easy. But, she scanned it. which she gained it, but she didn't really look at my face. Oh, as long as you have a valid ID. She's not going to make me take my mask off, but you. Could just say pull it down. Don't sneeze or speak. Just. Bet they will now school. Kids figured it out. They figured out. We can buy booze if we look like. We're a little bit older. We're going to check out whatever it takes to get those kids to wear their masks, okay. corona could be the thing that finally kills off. The Penny. There's a coin shortage right now. In the US and production needs to focus on the coins that people actually use in. That's not pennies so. Why is there end of the plane shortage? I would think people are not using coins right now very often shortage. Going on, but I've seen a bunch of signs at businesses basically seen. Please use exact change or Right. Something cash. I will say the have a penny. Leave a penny, Neva need a penny take. A penny is really nice when you are at a convenience store and they're like seventeen o one. Nine and you can just take a penny. the prostitutes of Bolivia are banking on see through plastic raincoats to stay safe. You Got Hawks attending about what I just said that's. Mostly terrifying, yeah, hold on prostitute to Bolivia are banking on see through plastic raincoats to stay safe during. Pandemic! Burly. Should've worn a mask. Marty's been saying that for an hour and a half. There's a big increase in demand for robots chefs at restaurants, hospital cafeterias and more people want their kitchen safer in the future from Corona virus and others concerned that. This may be like a semi norm moving forward There's that bar. Right outside of planet. Hollywood in the Miracle Mile has like a robot bartender. Really, your your your your drink in the bar. This robot makes the drink for you and it. Ends up at your table, but there's nobody nobody works there. The robot bartender Oh. Nobody works like literally zero people. Yes, it is weaker robots weird. Change tables then like. A lot of times at a bar you're you're not a sign. That seemed like at a restaurant where escorted to your table and that's your. Sometimes you're you around and touch screen, but you. The robot doesn't know if you laughed I assume the robots silvering to that area wherever you ordered it from right touchscreen you ordered it from. There's a thirty four year old woman from Florida who was arrested last month for a Dui and when the cops took her to jail. An x-ray showed quote a foreign object in her groin area, and at that point. She admitted she forgot she put a crack pipe in her. RECTAL TUNNEL AS THE STORY SAYS! rectal tunnel rectal tunnel, which is a phrase. I've never heard, but. She claims she truly forgot it was there. And you'll rectal. Damn near killed them by the way just traffic the rectal tunnels set down right now on on. Always cut out when I go through rectal tunnels. Michael J. from Saturday night live is getting his own sketch show on HBO. Max Learn. Some entertainment news this go ahead. Michael J. is wonderful about Michael J.. The. Some of the beauty of it is is that it's a small dose and I don't if that's expanded to a full show I wonder if it'll lose some of the charm and effectiveness, because now it's like this over and over and over. It's like when molly. Shannon made superstar the Movie Duma Mary Katherine Gallagher Is Oh good in a five minutes sketch, but then when you stretch it out to an hour and a half that I have seen the movie six or seven times, but even I can admit. This too much, but if he's funny stand-ups good, so it's a sketch show. He's going to have to have a giant cast I. Assume you just him who knows showtime has cancelled, Jim, Carey show kidding after two seasons. What was that about? was that the stand up show? Mr Rob Yeah. He was I think he did he did he do? It was like a kid's TV show. Mister Rogers kind of character I think. Somebody tricks that Bitch Carol Baskin into sending a birthday message to a convicted pedophile on cameo. Audio it's. It's terrible once you know that she's sending it to a convicted pedophile. Do you want to hear it or not? Of course all right so good prank? Yeah I yeah, tariff, cats and kittens. It's Carol Baskin Big Cat Rescue High Roth. All your kids wanted to get together and tell you you have really. Love all that you have done for them wall I hear there's a lot of great stories about you and your best friend can't wait to hear those. As good man. But it's an even better prank that they wrote it with those phrases. cameos a little dicey man Carol one. That people would do that to you. I. Don't know how you would really avoid that. I, did. Cameo for three weeks as part of a fundraiser up and people would send the cameo request with specific things like this one guy said. Can you say Happy Birthday to my buddy? Brian mentioned the time we went to sneaky Pete's after the twins game, and how much fun that was and I'm not kidding you that actually happened, so it'd be like Brian Happy, birthday, man, it's Marnie Gillner. Sneaky Pete's right after twins game can't beat it, so I have no way to vet to vet. If something awful happened just like I guess. Could Google every name, and maybe you would now google every name and just see if. Pile comes up, but people like six. Say this. Say This and you're supposed to say it. Yeah, it's dicey. It is the derogatory crashers has an idea for a sequel, and says there had been conversations, but way too early to get excited about it, but apparently wedding crashers two is possible. The reason that that came up in the news. Today is because it was fifteen years ago today that the wedding crashers move. Good. It's such a great film great film. The whole thing from ginning to end is just brilliant. It's a perfect comments John Friday this is such. That could've been. It could've been the soft mattress or could have been the midnight. Rape or the new took place in my room one of those. Back. Love Him traumatize to have a skull. Who just great I'M GONNA? I'm myself recharge. I forgot about the very beginning of the movie were Dwight. Yoakam is sitting across TRACI. Lords and they're getting a divorce and he says. Why don't you just kiss my left nut? And then she says back them. Shut your mouth when you're talking to me. Great, lines. That might be Vince von at his best, that's. Great but. Why. Really Yeah I'D SWINGERS IN WEDDING? crashers probably wanted one a but okay. Payment Grammar and. What a Honolulu major fielder cans! Crying like a little girl who wasn't crying a little girl like you try get jacked off under the table. Talk Dance family some real problems. Jack Ass? Like anyway, it looked pretty good at they real. They built for speed or for comfort. With them motorboat, you play the motorboat. You voting son of a bitch. You old sailor you. Where is she? She still in the house? What's wrong? What's? Wrong with you. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? You're projecting. Drop it. Drop it. He's not projecting on me. Why did you enjoy yourself I? Go ice my balls and spit up blood. Team player. I wonder if any of that Improv. Event that such a great movie, there's such a good Combo. Must Be. Last, but not least according to a new study by dating dot com men who use a shirtless selfie in their online dating profile. Get Twenty five percent fewer matches, and the reason why the theory is at least sixty six percent of women say those pictures show a lack of maturity and self, awareness and seventy six percent of women don't think guys with shirtless. Selby's have long term relationship potential, so it's yeah, you might look hot, but and you might be fun for a week or two, but if I'm looking for a relationship, I'm gonNA. Go ahead and pass on the shirtless Selfie guy festive theory. At least the key is. Shirt and dog. I've heard guys with A. Cute little. Say White Shaggy. Puppy. Do well, it does. Sausage! Trivia is next sauce. You WanNa. Give us a preview. Presidential trial. What's you're just GonNa? Embarrass US well the. Morning Show with. Russian meat sauce trivia right after this on. The. Currently forty two final segment of character for the day. Joined by the MARNIE GONNA Thank God. That was hot nonsense. Abra. Let gave. Let's. All right sauce has the potential to embarrass the power to your morning till we may display so many times specifically during initials on Fridays at this show is not a group of historians. You got it. We don't do well with history. For whatever reason sauce decided to make this week. Presidential. The topical because there's an election I'm now for more. Of Your hat with your, you know you're gonNA. Or will I will I will. These are all very gettable K.. Third ten, presidential questions, all very good able. They may be too easy, but here we go now Mari! How do you feel about this? I feel not very good similar to the. Trivia from last week Oscars Chris has the best chance of doing well at this Zach. How do you feel about Presidential Trivia? I like all of okay. Put a nice positive anything that soft does look at you, SPA anything. Anything. No okay. Go ahead saw. Let's see number one. Who Was George Washington's vice. President I mean. Yeah this. Some of this is going to be embarrassing as hell. Is that too hard? I should know that I know that's not too hard. No, it's not we'll see. You wrote a very quickly for being embarrassed. None Guess, but if it's wrong, I mean. That's something I should know. That's why it's. Wrong and I'm going to be okay. I'm embarrassed daily so payback number two. I'm going to move on quickly. I'M NOT GONNA go see a therapist about it I, do I ranch residents said, speak softly and carry a big stick. Which president said that? Speak softly and carry a big stick. Dick Yeah I heard you. Think. Number three. Multiple Choice Oh thanks what? Was Abraham Lincoln elected. Eighteen, fifty, nine, eighteen, sixty, eighteen, sixty one. Or eighteen sixty two. Who? Number Four What year was Abraham Lincoln assassinated. Number five. How many Presen- president excuse me have been assassinated! How many presidents? have been assassinated. Number six, which sports team did George W Bush own. Which sports team did George W Bush on. Number seven. Who is on the fifty dollar bill. which president is on the fifty dollar bill? Carey hundreds becks Darkstar. Number Eight! who was Lyndon B Johnson's vice president. WHO WAS LYNDON B? Johnson's vice president. Number nine. Number nine. Two presidents have been on the fifty cent piece name one of them. To presidents have been on the fifty cent piece name one of them the half dollar. And number ten. Last but certainly not least who was the third president who was the third president? Man. I think hogs. He did well. Do you guys feel like you did? I'm close on a lot of them, but I'm not sure that I agree. I, think I'm going to end up with about? Five seconds myself on three of them all right cord your prediction and I think I think I'm getting five Marnie. What do you think seriously I, think, it's four or five, yeah? We have one that. I don't even have guest for. Because I have no idea one of them. I think I'm going to get five. I think I'm in the one okay rain. No one I know I know I know. Maybe three! So. We're all. Ethically failing civics test. Last week I asked. Tent so all right number one corollas co- of what did you have for? Who Was George? Washington's vice president said John Adams. Zach Thomas Jefferson. I also send John Adams because I. think that's what they said in Hamilton. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams straight to hell I was arguing with myself. That was the second guessing myself I literally cross one out. dammit straight to hell I only know that because I watched Hamilton. Number two, which president said, speak softly and carry a big stick, said Roosevelt Teddy Roosevelt President. Stay nineteen, three. Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt in Nineteen ninety-three fair say Roosevelt. That is correct. Mrs that a common? Famous there. He said I know it is the Fr-. FAMOUS PHRASE I didn't know who coined it does the? Right? Hell no I said President Stick Oh. You're kidding. Pause has it didn't stick S. T I C, K. He said it at the Minnesota. State Fair. Did He really yeah? I grew up. In. North Dakota I. Did Not know nothing ever happened there number. He was all over what year was Lincoln elected? Eighteen, fifty, nine, sixty, sixty, one, sixty, two cordless I had no idea I guessed nineteen irks me eighteen sixty. Well was the elect like voted in or inaugurated in. Eight! Years Yeah. You vote in November. You get inaugurated in January. Like Obama started. Okay. It's sixty sixty one. Oh, really, Yup! That's not right. Six, hundred, sixty, four, sixty, eight, seventy, two, seventy, six eighty. That's not right damage. He was inaugurated in sixty one when the war broke out. Yeah, that's what I put. Sixty one feisty skips November, six, eighteen, sixty, sixty correct. I'm sorry I apologize. I had sixty one. The site I had had sixty one my bat. Did gain what. was he assassinated. I guess eighteen, Sixty Four Zach. I WANNA. Say Sixty four, but I'M GONNA say sixty five because I'm an idiot. And I did sixty six at sixty five or Sixty sixty five. How many presidents have been assassinated? I waffled between two numbers as well on this one. I had it between five or six, but I went with five three. Four three in his four. Own Marty. Hell, yeah, I know 'cause I've checked that one nine times. who were the four? It's Kennedy. Lincoln Kennedy Lincoln and Garfield Garfield and then. William William McCann McKinley. Got About. died of blood poisoning after getting shot. That's. Well technically when you. Know. You're right that you're right. I was wrong. which team did George W Bush own? Texas Rangers Zach Texas Rangers Texas Rangers Rangers that is correct. Nice job who is on the fifty dollar. Bill Corales Cove Ulysses s grant's Zach that's probably GONNA go taft. Jackson or I didn't know Teddy Roosevelt Corey's right. L.! who was Lyndon B Johnson's Vice President? This is the one I literally wrote down no idea. The. Only name that popped into my head was Walter Mondale. Even know if he was so I'm going with that. Zach, Hubert Humphrey Lyndon see gentle. Money's the best law. The L. C. J.. You know what I think Zach is right I'm an idiot. I wrote Nixon, but I think sex rights. Zach is correct, Humphry. In no that Mondale ran for vice president was never vice president correct pres-. To Kennedy yet. He Reagan Reagan. The Reagan had I think for reelection at every state except for us. To presidents have been on the fifty cent piece named one of them. said JFK Zach Lincoln. Theo, Rosie. George Washington No. It's JFK and Dwight. D Eisenhower had both been descend Sunday. Last, but not least who was the third President Corey Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson Thomas TJ correct. Nice job, guys well, Corey. How did you get seven, one, two, three, four five? Zach. For five hours and keep a track. Well done guys. Sorry about the Lincoln One. Better than. Some I didn't actually have Thomas Jefferson for the last one, but everybody else said it's. Convincingly that. Cj I didn't get that one so honestly I got three. That's more than Utah Ten which is to more than I thought sure so so that was fine. That's like an F plus SURF plus yeah, that's fine. That's what I would get like a solid like incomplete or you know. Yeah. I like task Fennell Trivia a little bit better, but you're doing a really good job at this acid something to look forward to. Excited about us. Thank you Murray. I can't believe we didn't hear the gun. Sounder on the how many presidents have been assassinated? Iraq. It all. attack. Tomorrow Tommy. Olsen joins in bonus carly Zuckerberg. In yesterday, but she's coming in tomorrow because no libra rosy, so we're replacing her with replete replacing I should say with somebody much better looking than at least Rosie. Hey and don't forget this summer. Michelob golden light invites you to rev up your summers and enter to win your mic Golden. Light Brandon to do see do that will look amazing on the late this summer. Learn more at DOT COM key contests. There you go again Marnie you're the best. We hope we see you next. Wednesday sauce will have more trivia to do. Rose, he'll be back next Wednesday. We're back tomorrow five thirty until nine C. then. stewed.

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The maybe I can throw a little more business your way. You interested in a fella named Bulla watch him very much. But as liquid every time I had south, he scoots bag across the border. Maybe we can lure them away from the border this time. I don't see how he usually ends a bunch of his gunslinger. Do any dirty work could has to be done. I figured it keep his gunslinger, so busy that the boss will have to come up and finish the job. You think you can get what's out in the open deal? Mean I'm Jaylen a herd of cattle to footwear Chuka starting in the morning. I figured out a little trouble with some watchings hands want me to go alone. No, I'm starting up with my own men. I think we'll do. All right at first, but they have to tomorrow when we go over granite pass, what's and should be ready to make his play each is anything while we're going through that gorge I'd like to have your help. I'll round up a few minute. I can count on him. Meet you there. I get my hands on what's in it. It'll be well with the trip. All right. It'd be at the south end of granite pass on Thursday morning. I'll try to set it up. So he'll come to the party. Okay, which is what we leave the rodent take off through the hills. It's got them turn. Okay. Got him. Come on. Let's right on. Take a look at pistol springs. The what is dried up there will have to go ten miles out of our way to get back to the river. If you wish to ask me, I didn't get. But if you wash. I don't do very smart tool right now. This way, when we might run into watch bunch of hands here. They say what's never gets this far north. Might the odds are all in our favor the perfect place for him to try to stop this. When we go through Greenwich pass won't be there till tomorrow. There's springs and plenty of good water to I told him that. Okay. You wanna ride on down there. No reason to eleven to say to these big rocks rest, the horses minute. We'll head on back to the herd. Ooh. I'm just as glad watching the stand on his own side of the mountains. I hate to tangle with anybody. And this measure rocks and boulders. It's pretty rough country and it stays rough clear through granite pass got a tough drive ahead of us. Gone slot. Don't go the gun. You cover nine way. We were so done care for, which it. Look up over a heads. I'm coming down. Don't move. Doesn't guns around these, rob? That's too many for me. I get nervous when I'm looking at one gun. Stranger. I've never seen you before. But I'd say of hand your bull, what's that's right. I'm here with my boys because you didn't pay any attention to the messages in town yesterday. I thought you'd follow up on that. They didn't expect to see assume or so far, from the border will never mind, the polite conversation. Come on out, boys. A mesh of Mook that as many as I figured the rest of must be farther. South gun on the ground both. You do. We do look pretty well. Outgunned got any other ideas? No. Let me tell you what happens next you stay here with me Ladas. So pile of your horse your side, kick rides back and tell Gimenez turn that hurt around and head back for tombstone. Do those Catalin hidden other way in ten minutes put a forty five slug right through the middle ear, boss. I'm leaving right now, though. Laurie about me which it does. Bring the boys back with you and clean out this Nesta side when it is time for grandstand. Play your liable wind up with a big hole, your stomach ought to be your friend, which got most sense, new has Lauda. Get miss and get that her too. Way. Lead, you get your husband trail them that hurt aid headed home in ten minutes. Just ride back. Let me know. Sit down relax Latta. Ought to be on the way back to tombstone by now. And if it is going to be all right. Pretty sure of yourself. Watson Clack ho the winning cuts. They'll say about that comes your boy Slade, then like the devil was after him. Not what's happened. I'd say which didn't do what you figure to one sign your death. One slaughter. Creedy crazy. But that's plenty of them and they're looking for trouble. We'll give him trouble. But I I got a little job to do up slaughter. You're licked Watson. You're at number. I'm not licked yet, but you're all do I said I'd put a slug in youth that her didn't head back the tombstone. I always keep my promises. In a moment. Luke slaughter of tombstone returns, an expression. You hear a lot is something to the effect that you can't have everything. It's just a well a kind of responsible acceptance of life. I mean not forever expecting miraculously. Good fortune. And most of us don't there are certain youngsters who refuse to go along with that idea nearly every day, they live. They experienced miraculous. Good fortune the youngsters. I mean are the ones with cerebral palsy? 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You're gonna plug of alive. We hit him in. Play one point your head cool. Cooler snap bought Luke. We got to chase him clear back across the border doing thinkin very clear. I only left two men with a heard that so good, gene. Gene. Bunch could circle round hit to hurt anytime. We'd better get back to the kettle. Get the boys together and let's ride. All right. Oh, I just feel dandy. At least I've got a crease on my scalp instead of a whole through my middle. Warm. Which it, what are you trying to do gift? Trying to keep living critters calm down for night, CIGNA's is just as able to start a stampede. I guess I'm really you're seeing and keep yourself calm down. Don't like idea. What's in his bunch of Coyote somewhere out there in the dark? And unlike it either. There's nothing to do. But wait it out. Told the boys keep moving around the herd knocked of Monge up to one of about, like cigarettes, see a Mets from mile on this. I hope they remember wanting sure nobody's getting any sleep tonight, but the cook, well it could be worse. Could be a moon. Shows like Charlie. He was over that we've come get. She jet thing. Hope horse can. You. What happened? What I stored might cigarette. Some rattlesnake up here net darkness, my hit by each me Macharia, I to no, no. But I wanted to smoke offer you better twelve spoken to daylight or you're live or not be with us. When the sun comes up at least know they're out there just have to be more careful. We stand here, given more lava drops more fire recognized we split up. Looks like it's going to be a long night. You're playing no. Get up here on top of the hill. I wanna look at granite pass before the cattle head into it granted past like, you know, the back your hand loom figure that place. It's gotta be it's the one perfect, but the stuff is between tombstone at fort, what Chuka you couldn't build a better trap. And we're the break watching gonna make another play. 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But right now, the conclusion of Luke slaughter of tombstone may eighteenth nineteen fifty eight is in a tight little bottleneck of I have a Soham. Nobody's climbing up or down them walls. Before heading into trouble. We'll find straight of we'll find down there. Oh, yeah. Couple of months side of the road. Some more open the rocks. Some of that clump of trees. What's brought in some more men, I can count about fifteen in there must be more Heidrun somewhere. We can't fight that kind of keep the herd moving to, I guess we can. What a trip this is being. We have gun battle, you'll get your skull cut open, Charlie home moose get shot. Now we run into a small army low in the now is to have the cattle stampede, mention it. It'll happen said, well, I'm gonna make it happen. Luke schroder. You already get more sleep night. You're losing your grip cancer. See that heard of I was fill this pass from wall to wall, he get all outright is behind the cattle stout them running through there, and we'll flesh watching and his crew out like a bunch of Quayle. It might work. Week. Now, what happens when we get to the other end of the pass. They fan out there. We for the couch go by Trump us down like ducks in shooting gallery does bottle up the other end of that pass, and grab them as they come out you who have the Serafina Pekka deputies. Right. Not from town right now. I'm going over them out and then meet him you get on back and televise what to do. Sometimes I wish you'd let me in on these things odd, feel Dern site. More comfortable. Everything worked out just about, like I figured it would. Sure, what was the last time? I looked when he comes out, I want him. I owe him for a lump on my head. Get ready man. All right, man out across the past, as they come out of the canyon each of you pick Amana and ride him down. They'll be pretty busy STAN out of the way that stampede. What's out for them? They're all professional gun slicks questions. Good scatter out and good luck to you. None of it too soon. That cloud of dust up in the pass. Sure. How big is it? Ninety head there spooky bunch of critters, nothing stopping them. Once they really get started. They are going to hear them now. Here they come and here come the we're looking for fan in the breeze to stay head of the herd. To run a fight. There's watson. Come on. Let's get up. Stop to that. Down but he's still rolling around. What's your feet broke? My locate comes. Hard stick with my Stirrup Watson tonight. A whole. Him close to get caught in our own trap. Sure works. I never saw gang rounded up with quick Watson's by Sarah Smith at a fine job, you can get the boys 'round up are heard. You've got them come down. We'll drive on into the fort like you win slaughter while a Matt it might as well. Thank you, for saving me from that hood. 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I came down here to look into this matter of you change the beneficiaries of your policy to cut off your mother and brothers and favor this medium, Tony Caro. Hate you for this. Didn't daylight, you know, until I found out a few things I think I have including the fact that met him more Ganim organic who persuaded you to make the changes nothing but a clever fraud that isn't true. If you'll call your boyfriend Tony Ricardo take him down to the eighteen th precinct. Police station where I'll be waiting for you that you think because his father was a kind of gangster years, goalies case, I hope blood won't tell eighteenth precinct both of you. All right. Johnny, we will be there. Jenny picks. You took last night. Thanks, randy. Get the idea using infrared lighten infrared film anything else. Anything let them know I was taking pictures what a bust of the sans. This. Publish those scare on those phony, psychics out of business and out of town, his the one that I here. Hello. Tony sharpest. Ricardo this is surgeon singer. Now would you please show us this poof you talking about? Yes. How did you make out, may very well? Tony, thanks to a miniature flesh camera had tucked into my pocket last night. I guess you wanted to add a morgue Anamour gonna work records. Tony knows as well as I do that. She's completely honest like any normal person they may have questioned the almost miraculous powers of this woman in the beginning. But no. Trumped up tricks that you. Where did you get this picture of this? She's moving that, trumpet. With the loan extended handle extension rip they call it. She probably hit it in the front of address, but these pictures duct room infrared photography, maybe she did use one trick. But the voices came from trumpets floating about in the air above our head this one taken, when your father was supposed to be speaking to, you know. Trumpet has rung to extending into that Curtin dole at the end of the runway, somebody could whisper through it is terrible. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. I gave her believing in. I'm afraid you'll really took here, here's where my dead brother Richard spoke to me. Hanging trumpeters Lovie or but how could she know I didn't tell her. Yes, you mentioned your brother completely non-existent, brother made up like the dream of you. I told you about believe to to. How could he find out all those things about me? A couple of nights ago, I took Mr. dollar to medium. That was a bum converted when she told them all about himself. Have you forgotten what I found out about you and your brothers just in the last twenty four hours? I don't know what to say. Don't try. We've still got a pin this whole thing down. I'm sure there's a more Ganim again. I wasn't working alone who could Tony. No, not Tony just because his father, no, please. Reporter moved. Again, you guessed right? Yeah. And we better get going. We'll use a car get an escort as far as come on all of you. Cabbie with us exceleron on the floor had a ball training risk going across town. And we had to hold him down when we finally reached the jersey side, Randy singer, obviously, had no authority over there. But as it turned out, I'm glad he came pulled up to the home of meta more. Gannett Gannett, I couldn't help noticing Studebaker, golden hawk sticking out from behind the house with a Pennsylvania license. I wasn't the only one to notice. Looks like David's car. Johny amount of my jurisdiction, maybe about better wait. Yeah. Johnny. I knew David was bad, but I still can't believe feel Carol and I'm sorry. Johnny Johnny thing like this. I'm ready for anything. Wanna just you and I win any happen, Carolyn O, Carol deer. And Mr. Riccardo and Mr Dalli Madame again. But not front of the meeting, of course, strain of last night's convocation is still risk me. Mcgrane your maybe you ought to up the price via next chance for their ain't going to be no more, Mr. dollar Jerrell Tony we're gonna look over that sands from in broad daylight. You can I won't let you destroy the sanctity of that room. You will. I'll add on the line. Madame whatever your name is this monkey business of years has gone far enough. So this is the room terrible thing. Joe saying, take a thing like spiritualism that a lot of honest, people believe in it. Make dirty racket out of this man is mad making this sacred place months. Carol. Right to make makes a horrible implication. Those were accusations. Would you like to see how those spirits of yours move, trumpets around on the dark? They couldn't be seen how those spirit voices suddenly appear out of thin air. Look at these pictures. How did you get the Tila LA? I did it with my little camera. Well. Oh, expose, but there was nothing malicious about it. If you knew the solace, the comfort of mine than spirit, these things of the people who come to me, one hundred bucks a crack sometimes more. I not care has money. So the others who come to me, your plan to make them all turn their insurance policies over to you, and then contrived to have them suddenly and unexpectedly joined their immortal ancestors. No. That wasn't my idea who knew something. This might happen has happened now. Whereas he no no. I, I don't know what you're talking about your assistant our colleague in crime, would be a better word who stood inside the curtain door the room and made with a phony voices of the dead. Who gave you all the information on Carol who's probably done a nice little research job on me since my visit last night. Yes, Mr David, I know all about your activity as an insurance investigator, and why you're here, but it's not going to put that thing down and give yourself up, David. So you're the one who arranged for me to be a beneficiary of Carol's policy. On me when something happened, of course, and give us a chance to clear out. But now it's too late. And now that you've found us out. Well, David, no. Right. Somebody turned out. On me. Not killed. Randy. Get up of my hair. But david. Tony Marion wrapped up on the corner. There I've got his gun. Who've got a mean left. Oh, I'm sorry, Randy, but say I thought this was out of your jurisdiction. Curious about comparing your lousy photography with the room itself, Johnny? So I sneaked in the back door when I saw what was going on? I rela lost my head, I guess. All right. Dave. Is it get around? Tony. Sure. And remember that crack about blood will tell well, I think you can prove to her that, and your case at least whoever said it was all wet. Well, what happens to David sharpen meta Morgan Magana will be up to the courts. It's a sense, she's out of the ghost ragged for while a long while and, of course, Carol did make a change in policy. Cut off David expense account had him twenty something cab back to New York hotel Bill and fair back to Hartford, four seventeen thirty five expensive, total eight ninety to ninety on, if you don't mind. I'll hang onto that tricky little Cameron stuff and case I run into another medium. Well done, yours truly Johnny dollar. Now here's star to tell you about next week's intriguing story next week. The tiers of night matter. Populus necklace and a girl. Join us won't you yours. Truly Johnny dollar. Yours truly Johnny dollar tarring. Bob, Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood. It has produced directed by Jack gemstones, also wrote this week story heard in our cast wherever Ginny, Greg Lawrence Dobkin, marine puddle, Harry Bartle, Eleanor Audley occur in her vibrant, Junius Matthews, Coney, Barrett and Sam Edwards musical supervision. 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If you want the number is eight, fifty five four fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. We do have the, the discord call in line rooms. Although I don't know how well they're working been some audio card issues here with a computer in the studio recently beacon. Try them over a discord, L, R, N dot FM. We they were. It's Mark with you. I'm in they worked fine for me when I was running the show never had. But, you know, glad to hear that all last night when we did the after show, right? They can go out three times a night or be just fine. Yeah. So you can try that. I just haven't had a chance to get any new equipment in here and do the perp testing necessary to iron out whatever those bugs are your return trip from Tokyo have have you caught up from the jetlag? I guess I mean I, I don't know. I slept fifteen hours the first day. So I guess that's jetlag. I mean I don't know when people talk about jet lag. I never really understood it. So it's nice to be young. I guess I'm knows anything jet. Lag doesn't affect people who are younger, the younger. You are the less. It's gonna affect you. Okay. Well anyway, so you can bring up anything that you want news out of the Daily Mail in the U K, Mark, you wanted to talk about this one where a pedestrian has been fined ninety pounds. I don't know off hand how much in dollars ninety pounds is it's at least a hundred bucks but for disorderly behaviour after he tried to cover his face when he saw controversial facial recognition camera on a street in London. Officers set up the camera on van in Romford east London, which then crosschecks photos of faces of passers by against a database of wanted criminals. The one man was unimpressed about being filmed and covered his face with his hat and jacket for being stopped by officers took his picture. Anyway, after being pulled aside. The man told police if I want to cover. Mm efface? I'll cover me face. Don't push me over when I'm walking down the streets spat Dick Van Dyke. Go ahead. It comes just weeks after it was claimed the new technology incorrectly. Identified members of the public in ninety six percent of matches made between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteenth Bisa defied. That's what it says. Miss identified in ninety six percent of matches. Yeah. Now, I don't know who made that claim. But that's an interesting thing to say cameras have been rolled out in a trial in parts of Britain with the met making its first arrest last December. When shoppers in London's West End were scanned, but their used has been has sparked a privacy debate with civil liberties groups big brother watch branding, the move, a quote breach of fundamental rights to privacy and freedom of a semi unquote. Police argue I guess are necessary necessary, right? But I mean at this early stage is it worth being stopped? Let's say nineteen at a twenty a little more than that, call it twenty four at a twenty five I think, is what it what it is. So twenty four at a twenty five people who were stopped presumably in this, this rollout were found to not be the people that they were looking for. That's what sounds like you and they did make one arrest. So is it worth that ladies and gentlemen, is it? Well, it crime and punishment. People would say, Yes, Anything is worth one arrest, right? And in many cases, these arrests are sort of a warrant for not paying some traffic ticket or whatever who knows. Yeah. You never know what it is. I mean, rarely are we talking about the, the guy that's kidnapped busload of kids and has been holding them up in his basement, or whatever the, the horrifying thing you might be thinking of, in most cases, at least in the United States, these when, when officers pull people over, and then they, they run them for warrants, which is I mean, what's common and they dry. Somebody off, and that's common to in many cases, you're just talking about something, they didn't know that they even had, and if they did know it was minor, some old thing that happened. That's irrelevant to their lives today. Victimless crime. You know, when you start wrapping these things up it gets bigger and bigger, the other thing about this is that they're going to get better at this technology will get better facial recognition software will get better. They'll get better than ninety six percent. Miss and some point or another they're going to be, you know, ninety six percent. Right. They have facial recognition at the bitcoin dot com. Head offices. They got a camera at little device. That's on one of their doors, you, you'll show your face to get in the door unlock if you're the right person if you're the right person, the at just shows that. Yep. It'll work thou. Also, you got a couple of that here in the United States. I don't know what it's like in Great Britain. But I know what's going on in the US. We have license plate readers now in this country. Right. You have people that drive significantly more. I'm sure that's out. That's true in rural England, but not so much in London. So you can kind of track if there's one particular car that drives around the south western New Hampshire area that if you track it, you're going to know where I am most right time. And that's true for most people in the United States. So if you can couple license Praet readers with facial recognition software, then the government. The government. That's just decided one way or another, whether it's in New York state or Georgia to either allow babies to be killed just before they're born or to call a zygote an embryo, whatever it is. You disagree with it, this same organizational model. The government is going to be watching your moving where you're going, and what you're doing at is that acceptable because I know it's acceptable to some of y'all out there. Some of you are saying, well if you're not doing anything wrong, you done. I would say this is I don't have to stop your stinking cops ninety six percent. The who ninety six percent wrong off. You don't stop though run off the road. They'll kill you. I mean, ultimately a traffic stop. If, if this guy would have run from these cops they would've grabbed him and they would've tried to fought them off. They would beat him with a stick, and if he would have ultimately if you would've had a gun, which I. Believe is his right to protect his body from lunatics. You know, if he would have tried to fight them off with a with a handgun they would've come out with weapons at some point, or another right, every traffic stop is a death sentence. I mean how insane resist enough? Do use the term lunatics. I mean how insane is to go and tackle a man because he didn't want to show his face to your camera. Well, it's that sane its status. Sanity to hurt people over these stupid ruled today. Insist Mark that is necessary to crack down on spiralling crime. I mean look the police, obviously need help here. They can't do the job. Apparently they need robots. They have made it a so many things the illegal, the crime is out of control. Yes. I'm not surprised that violent crime is out of control in London, because people cannot protect themselves. It is meaning you can't have a gun. You can't have a knife. You can't have anything at pretty soon. It's just gonna be the biggest person can survive in it. And, you know, maybe that's maybe the solution is you disarm. Everybody completely and have facial recognition cameras everywhere. And we're all like a giant ant form. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe we're just pets of the state. I don't think of myself that way. But do you. Yeah. Yeah. For number. Here's eight fifty five four fifty free, that's eight five five four five zero three seven three three, Mark. If it just saves one life. Well, you can show the life at safes like they could show. They just reported on the one arrest. They didn't report on all the people. They bothered that were false positives on this. Well, I mean, there were a lot of people they said, ninety six percent of them or whatever were mismatches between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen. So it's that's a lot of people they bothered. But if they save just one life, isn't it worth the declaration of independence? Really says life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And sometimes that fine. I don't really care what they do in London, except that they're what they're doing is telegraphing, this is coming to the United States next as you already pointed out. You mentioned the gloves brought him up. I was definitely going to the license plate scanners in many states. The police are operating those things at all times. Yes. Oh, whenever they're driving around. They are scanning license plates to see who's around them. 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We are discussing this story out of the Daily Mail where man find ninety pounds for trying to avoid being seen by facial recognition cameras, apparently somebody was watching, and you know. You know, this has to be if they put these things in everywhere, there's not some overseer, who's sitting there watching all twenty thousand of them at once so they must have somebody monitoring the test unit's pretty closely, right? In this case, it's on a van. And so they can they somebody in the van, they have more than a million cameras in London that are watching all the time, but those cameras aren't rigged with the facial recognition software. Not yet today, those cameras, just basically are there to sort of record in case they can come up with for whatever reasons, I'm kind of crime. They can roll things back and say, oh, that bloke threat did it in the police, according to the story here was the South Wales. Police was I applaud by the South Wales. Police say thousands seven yeah. Let's see what else hero. Yes. So the police say they are necessary to crack down on spiralling crime, which we've got an example of what the police are doing to crack down on that crime here in a little bit with usually indicates something that's going. Down where officers previously insisted people could declined to be scanned before later clarifying that anyone trying to avoid the scanners may be stopped and searched. It was first deployed now. They're finding them. It was. I imagine searching them as well. It was first deployed by South Wales. Police ahead of the Champions League final in twenty two thousand seven but wrongly matched more than two thousand people at the time to possible criminals police. And you'd think it gotten better in a decade, but maybe not so much. Right. They did they did the city or city in Tampa. I remember that it was not young time ago. I mean, probably fifteen years ago and they hold it because it was. Freaking out. But at some point, this is going to get pretty good at Adelphi. They use it on Facebook all the time. Would you like to tag yourself? It knows it's you. It's pretty good at it too knows your friends to. Yes. And if your friends put a picture of somebody who looks like you then it wants to tag, you, it ends like me, police and security services worldwide are keen to use facial recognition technology to bolster their efforts to fight crime and identify suspects. But they've been hampered by the unreliability of the software with some trials failing to correctly, identify a single person technology made incorrect matches in every case during two deployments that Westfield shopping center in Stretford last year. According to big brother watch it was also reportedly ninety six percent. Wait six percent saying here accurate. But earlier it said it was inaccurate at ninety six percents. So I'm not sure what they're saying in rom for the man was fine ninety pounds at the scene by the officers also arrested three other people during the day. Thanks to technology seamark. They're making a wrestle off of this. I mean, this is worth it, isn't it? If, if it just sure it's going to inconvenience, some people, but isn't it worth it to stop the criminals? That's the question that the, the, you know, the people need to ask themselves. I kind of feel like you deserve the government that you want in a some given geographic area. It's, you know, if that's the thing you want, if you wanna be harassed as you go down the street, so that people can pick up petty criminals in many cases, criminal isn't even the right term violators because they have, you know, the because there's so many laws, you couldn't read them in four lifetimes. Right. And they aren't saying what these people are being arrested for. They're not saying they caught three murderers. They're not saying they cut throat one armed robbery London. Having a short piece of metal is illegal, right? I mean, they're, they're literally having drop-off places for you to put knives. Now, I don't know. I I've worked in rest. Ron and chefs would carry their knives. And all she on a belt. Right now, if you leave it at the restaurant, then I suppose, it's up for stealing by, you know, the busboy, whomever. So some of them would probably want to carry it around with them or put in their cars, something like that. Is it legal to carry a knife in your car in London? I saw that you, it's not. I suspect you don't even have. It's like New York City where people don't even have cars. How do you transport your knife? From your home to your job. Good question. Police. I mean does chefs now use plastic knives in London? I doubt it our plastic knives. Legal, does it have to be a metal blade? You have to have a note from your employer that says this man is a shift or is it anything with the pointy tip on it, because you can kind of have an, you know, plastic knife, those exists. Yeah. A while back of the day, they had I mean, the stiletto is, is appointing knife with two blades on it, but the like Dirk is just a pointy piece of metal like an ice pick. So you know you can do the job with that pretty easily. I think if you're wandering around that icepick, it's unlikely that you're out to pick ice though. So the toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. They then get into the back and forth between the officers and I don't know if this is because they the officers were recording video or if the man was, or how this was, you know, I'm not sure who who recorded. This, but they claim that after being stopped the man asked the officer one of them, how would you like it? If you walk down the street and someone grabbed you by the shoulder, you wouldn't like it, would you officer told him calm yourself down? You're going in handcuffs answering that question. It's up to you. Wind your neck and but the man replied, you wind your neck in now. What does that mean is that slang? It sounds like British slang does sound like his sticking his neck out, and therefore these to be wound back in. I don't think so. I think I bet you mean something else it sounds like slang after being fined the man told the reporter the chap told me down the road he said they've got facial recognition. So I walked past like that then covers his face to show how he did it. It's a cold day as well as soon as I've done that the police officers asked me to come to come to him. So I've got me back up. I said to him, f off, basically, I said, I don't want me face shown on anything. If I want to cover me face cover me face. 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It's Ian, and Mark and also want to make sure that, you know, about bitcoin dot com. I just got back from the bitcoin dot com head offices in Tokyo, and it was a great experience because I knew that Roger vir was into bitcoin. Bitcoin cash specifically is, of course, what he's thrown a lot of his weight behind. I didn't really realize how much weight he'd firm behind it. There's a lot of people working guess coin dot com. They don't all live in Tokyo. But he's got like ninety employee's. They're doing a lot of stuff they have a bunch of irons in the fire. Some of which I can talk about some of which I can't, but I can definitely talk about their new website, local dot bitcoin dot com. This is a way for you to as of June fourth when it officially launches. To buy and sell bitcoin cash, either with somebody in your town or someway halfway across the world. So there's different ways that you'll be able to do it, whether it's meeting, somebody at a, you know, McDonalds and trading cash for bitcoin cash or it's Bank deposit from halfway across the country. There's going to be different ways that people will be able to accept payments, and they're going to do it, where you don't actually have to identify yourself to the website, meaning that there's no, what they call in the in the money world know your customer requirements where you have to identify and show all kinds of, you know, identifying information to a website that needs to know who you are. Because the government says they need to know in this case, bitcoin local dot bitcoin dot com is not going to have those things, they're going to have apparently in cryptic chats between buyer and seller there. So the website itself doesn't even know what you're doing, which is pretty interesting. That's at least my understanding of it, and there's more to it, but I didn't make you know, exhaustive notes on it. The sites up. Right now. You can go to local dot bitcoin dot com. You can kind of take a look at it. It's in teaser mode, if you will, you can sign up, you can create an account, you can place, an advertisement on the site to say, sell some bitcoin cash, but it won't actually be active until June fourth. So they're getting ready to roll this thing out. And it sounds like it could be a really big deal. So looking forward to it on the big fan of sites like this. And I'm looking forward to trying out local bitcoin dot com. I think it sounds like a great idea. So not such a great idea is identifying people on the site with these facial on various different places, specifically in London with facial, recognition cameras, man, find ninety pounds after attempting to shield his face from one of these tests cameras that they have apparently, it's on a van. So I suspect that means that there's an officer sitting in the van probably monitoring the output. In case it matches somebody who's in alleged wanted criminal and reports the sounds of it. They're, they're missing far more often than they're hitting on this, which means that they're sending out officers to know that whether you're right or wrong, whether you had a miss or not, as far as facial recognition software goes you have to have come in contact with the person. Right. So, yeah, the man somebody it recognizes somebody that's somebody likely has a record and warrants otherwise. Why is it recognizing them, right? Because it's making a mistake. No, that's a Misra. That's the Misra condition that's not a recognition. So it blinks up blink. When it gets it, right. No. When it gets when it hits the has hit. Okay. All right. It believes it knows who you know knows somebody is likely it believes that because that person has warrants. Right. The person thinks you are has worn wrecked. Right. So then they have to send out a cop, or two more three and they're an armed there in London. So maybe they're sending up to. I don't know. And then they yeah he's surrounded they actually have a picture of the whatever the arrest or ticketing incident, wasn't, it appears that he surrounded by at least four cops. All right. So they have four cops out to deny, you know, who whoever it is that the machine hit son, and they find out that this person is not the person hidden, meaning this person is not somebody with warrants or it's somebody different. With warrants is another possibility being and. They, you know, so this is the only way that they can find out. So this means that they've harassed a great deal of people in order to come up with these numbers, correct? In this case, the officers surrounded the man and handed out a ninety pound fine to him. And according to this guy that was pinged on their software. This is just a guy that held up his hand and coat in front of his face. Otherwise, they would have handed him more fines, or put him in handcuffs, if they'd actually, you know, matched him with somebody. But the, the software doesn't say that this is just at this point just a citizen, who did not want to have his face standby camera. Of course. He's in London, which means that he gets his face gained by camera all the time, but it's a different camera. Not this camera. So let's go to your phone calls and thoughts, you can bring up, whatever you want here on free talk live. Let's talk to. We've got Jack on the line in Mississippi, not Mississippi and Louisiana. Jack, you're on free talk live. Yeah, thanks. Thanks, mccullough. A wall will redemption today to host the no house in front of them. That had it had the Monday track tire acts on racetrack. Got talking about horseracing. Yes. What about it? Okay. Well will the one in a field with in derby got his redemption today. No loss was in front of them. Truckee derby that was today. The Preakness today. He said the previous day Preakness is also a race. Oh, I'm sorry. What? So who who were the who their big ones that are running in this? I know nothing what ahead a bunch of no warrant we're on him. But well, we'll get interfered with wheel. More of a will. Well will will. Right. You got them say, one nobody was in front of I. Thanks for the call toll free number here. Eight fifty five four fifty free hope a bunch of people want some money, probably bunch of people lost, you tell people they can call in about anything. They did. Let's go on Larry in Indianapolis listening to WIBC. Hello. Larry good for everybody who won their sports game today. T go kills them watch. Glad ends at I sounds horse racing. Can I throw? How's that? Now, can I throw in the gladiator pit? Well, we want we don't want him in there, but feel colon offer some psycho feisty Diana down. Vallejo him then he'll be. Okay. I think all right. But anyway, what I was calling about marketing. Now, you talk about immigration outta time, right? This open bar. We could talk about all the time. You know periodically. But what about is now I just on the news that they are taken thousand immigrants, each Broward, County and counties through how the United States given them a five thousand dollar stipend for housing all the safety issues, they get they get re food stamps, they get housing. They get a tan of money if they got a family. Now, do you prove of somebody claiming refugee status being held in confinement, for three days, then flying to whatever city wants to go to at arch spent, and then five thousand dollars and? Government welfare at all Larry, I don't approve of four. But these people are getting and out today ever married it I don't know. But you talk about immigration, there ought to be some kind of restrictions bit. On the problem. Isn't that the, the problem is a welfare problem? Larry. I mean, we can't afford to just pay for the world to come here and then get, you know, five thousand dollars stipend every month or whatever it is. That's that's outrageous. What we're doing and below a gang or defending this Democrats across the board. Art, offending his policies. When I see every more when I bow. The voters. Get coffee and I see all kids coming in with dirty clothes on. Little Debbie's and mount do for breakfast and could be spent better on our own people and less. We are Fidel's like their call. It further because it's an interesting question in. No, I don't support welfare. I don't support government forced redistribution. I do support refugees being able to come to the United States, and I support people who want to support them being free to support them in whatever way they feel like it, whether it's providing housing or food on a voluntary consensual basis. Our toll free number eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. This is free talk live. 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I guess claiming refugee status are getting thousands of dollars from the federal government's sort of a stipend. They're getting some kind of a home allowances. They're getting a plane ticket to. Yes, refugees are sort of quote, unquote, entitled to a certain amount of money or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And he asked us how we feel about that. I think we were both pretty clear, but in case you're just tuning in. I think we're both against it because we are both against government forced wealth redistribution. So I would be against the government cutting anybody a five thousand dollar welfare check, whether it be somebody claiming to be a refugee, or somebody who is, you know, born here in the United States. That's the job of a church end of storage should be and churches or some other organisms have mandates to take care of, you know, refugees, and that sort of thing. I don't care if it's the lions club or whoever as long as it's voluntary. Right. And what I say is the free people can cross the borders of free countries freely, or you don't have free people, and you don't have free countries stop pretending we don't have free people, and we don't have free countries spidery with people's do people really say that it's a free country anymore. I don't think I say that very often. I don't hear it. Anyway. So no, I don't think there should be any mandate to pay for anything. But yes, I think that people should be able to escape whatever terrifying thing might be happening and there what what passes for a country where they're from. Absolutely. And, you know, if you if you sit this country up correctly, then it's replicate -able, but right now it's not because socialism, isn't reputable. No. It's a disaster everywhere. It's tried. And here's or leftism or whatever term, you want to. I don't even know how to describe the status social welfare programs that we have they're not socialism in so much as the state doesn't claim the ownership of the means of production that we use that term as sort of catchall. So they're run by Republicans. And Democrats, the same programs prior to social welfare programs. Existing you saw wars of conquest, nations wanted, more people and more land, because though. Those were good things for that nation. Now you don't see that at all because they don't want responsibility. I mean, ladies and gentlemen, which you want Chihuahua or some Baja California or some, you know, directly adjacent piece of Mexico to suddenly annex to the United States. There's a resounding no across America because they know that they'd be paying additional taxes for these, what would largely be impoverished people or poor people compared to the United States, suddenly being brought in the United States. Well, nobody has a responsibility to pay for anybody else's. Well being that's what productivity and hard worker for and many times. I mean this nation is built by hardworking immigrants who came here, if you want hardworking immigrants set up a system where you can work hard and do, well, if you wanna system where you have a bunch of people who want to suck off the tee to social welfare system, set up that kind of system. But if you. Want that don't complain that you've got it. And that people want to benefit from it. If you jump in, you're welcome to join us here. The toll free number eight fifty five four fifty free. Let's continue with your calls and thoughts. We have Dave in New York. You're on free talk live, Dave. Hey guys, how're you doing? Dave. What's on your mind tonight? Youtube sucks. Okay. Okay, what's happened? What are they doing? Now. How say about you create a channel and you have Kennedy, somebody subscribers and you like the people have since to you, and you to other people and so forth, and, you know, and like created all budget content and stuff. You know, you three to this brand channel, and you that's houses of ours pounds of billions, you have and so forth, that the content and you created for your fans, you know, Colin so far now let's say one day you wake up on a Monday Tuesday. And you find out your channel is taken away from you gone. Yeah. I mean, that's really the, the problem with creating on these channels. I mean, this is true for Facebook at any point, they can just get rid of your Facebook channel at any point on Twitter, your, you know, your, your accounts, gone YouTube. It's the same thing. It's, it's really was centralized platforms. We heard about many people being what they call d platform d-, which is what you described where you're channels just gone. And maybe they gave you notice. Maybe they didn't. Maybe they told you why maybe they didn't they're not under any obligation to do any of those things to tell you why. So is this did this happen to you? Dave. I even there thirty minutes video, and I posted it on my heart and a number one channel it's almost thirty minutes explaining why YouTube sucks, you can watch whatever whenever you want. Just for our listeners that aren't aren't clear. Dave is a longtime caller to freetalklive, he calls on occasion and he's always mad about something that's kind of what he does. He gets mad about things, but in lex to repeat himself, but I'm not clear though here. Dave, can I go watch this video or has your channel then pulled? It's my guy in a number one. Yeah. It's called. Yes. My friends. This is why you saw. Now, I understood that you had a different channel actually now the last time you called into the show you had promoted one called my own damn channel and how that so did they take that one down too because I'm looking at it right now? It looks like all your videos, are there. Although when you're on the homepage for the challenge says this channel doesn't have any contents, and that's kind of confusing. Yeah, I I don't know how to put in yourself there. But anyway, some they didn't take down all of your channels. They only took down one of them. No, they took down. That's the the my account. Do they give you a notice? Did. They send you an Email saying, Dave, we're taking down your content. It's because you violated copyright terms. They give you any kind of ideas to, you know what precipitated this action. I something because I had said something along the lines of I grew up around white people. You know. You said that in one of your videos. Yeah. I was tired whatever something I had a few other channels, you know, 'cause I was I was being put on pole racist and my videos, you know. Second. So now when in the circumstance, what do they do they just say sorry, you've been pulled down for content or they say, specifically racist or what do they say? I give you a warning, and then the second time you do you can't upload for whatever days and the second time you do it, you're China was pulled or something or whatever did you get a warning in advance. I know. Like a, a warning and advance and then you know they say, oh, what do then? I don't like Brad people. I've, I. Okay. That's something new. I don't think we knew that about you, Dave previously, because, you know, like I said, he always calls in about being angry about something. So we never really find out too much about what he really believes. So you feel about you. Chris can't shows in a while. I want to do that. Yeah. Because I called the his show quite often on Mondays and Fridays follower of your stay. But you could subscribe to his YouTube channel, he's up to four hundred seventy four subscribers Mark. Let's calls in here and people wanna go watch a lunatic ramble. Plus, he was featured by that this hot, atheist, chick on a recent video because he was mad one of his more. Recent calls was he was mad at this atheists YouTube flogger named Jaclyn somebody for sending Jacqueline Glenn for not being topless on the internet. He couldn't find any nude photos of her. And so he was very mad at her for being a woman on the internet. Without nude photos. Thanks for the call. Dave sorry to hear year race. That's really disappointing toll free numbers. Eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. But then again, he's not the brightest bulb in the basket. So I guess that pretty much explains it. Eight fifty five four fifty free. You can join us here. 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The contract makes clear that, while the companies are expected to be able to influence Muslim public opinion in France as part of a covert counter extremism program. The ultimate aim of the program. Would be to encourage the French authorities to develop their own propaganda, initiatives, based on our ICU model. It's unclear from the documents whether all right? See you operations and France have actually begun or whether the program is being developed, and the hope of securing French Cooperation in the future. Saudi Arabia on Wednesday. So mid a letter to the United Nations acuity council in which it held Iran in the mini hugely group responsible for targeting their oil facilities on Tuesday, the anti media reports the letter was handed over by the permanent Representative of Saudi Arabia to the United Nations. 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This is the liberty produced in partnership with as Noah's news in listeners like you the liberty is online. Liberty beat dot news dot noose. I'm mic. Merle reporting for the liberty reminding you spread liberty with a smile to video of my girlfriend slapping, me, and choking, me and writing me that shouldn't be an indication. I'm gonna lack leadership in a work situation. It's gonna be hard to convince an employer masturbating to video otherwise potential employer might see all those videos of my husband tiny up, and having the way with me, and then they're going to think that I'm not going to be a third of enough. If you don't want to jeopardize the content of your porn, you can always shoot from the is down. But that's not the same. If you cover the is, that's where the innocence is. So am I supposed to leave or j just because someone shows up with the camera? You should leave or it's more. If I go to a party, I wear something like this, in case situation comes that I actually shoot my porn in sepia tone and make it look old timey. So people see it, they'll think it's my grandfather. Okay. The onion news network. It is free. Talk live and launching into the second hour of this live, Saturday, the show. Dial in toll free and bring up whatever you want. Our number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three with you tonight. It's Ian Mark as we continue, we will take your calls and thoughts about what you want coming up. We've been focusing on the police state in the UK where they have these spatial recognition cameras in the streets, there on a test basis. So far the testing has not been, particularly effective thing to a metropolitan area near you. Well, and that's part of the reason why we talk about these things even though we don't live there. There's a very good chance that the technology in question could very well expand right to where you live. China's Social Credit policy will become a thing in the United States, if it if it works out, well, in China, there's certainly politicians of all stripes that are watching these programs and they want to bring them to. Wherever it is that they supposedly represent. So if you don't feel for a moment, like, well, it's only happening. They're never going to happen here. There's a good chance it will happen here. And as you pointed out, Mark decade, a decade ago, ebor city, which is in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. They did install recognition cameras in the streets, there with a miserable tests that didn't work at all. But that doesn't mean they won't try it again when I was in Europe and the Middle East in the nineties. I noticed that they had police officers standing around with, you know, I don't know if they were machine guns, but they looked like the, you know, sort of their black scary guns. And I'm like this gonna have that in the United States, are cops? Harry, Carey handguns nine then two thousand one happened thousand one happen in the New York City, they're standing around looking like stormtroopers. Exactly. So, you know, these things can happen here and there's a good chance that they will, and they need to be pushed back against as much as possible we can take your calls and thoughts about. You want. Then I have a follow up story about a London police department that has busted a dangerous cache of weapons, including what appeared to be kitchen. Utensils. Spoon. Yes. So we'll tell you about that on the way. Here your calls and thoughts are welcome. And you can bring up anything that you want. Let's go to the phones into the phone. We got Nikki on the line in Pennsylvania. Nikki, you're on free talk live with in Mark. Good afternoon. How are you? Nikki, what's on your mind tonight? I have a question. So I am an immigrant to the United States and a thank you. You're welcome. So as an immigrant, I am subject to a numerous amount of investigations, I have to get the I checked every few years fingerprinted. Photographed everything like that. So let me ask you question. So you feel that American citizens should not be subject to such things because they're American citizens. Charles object to being harassed by the government, goons harassed. I think it's a matter of the government is to make sure I'm not a criminal, which obviously, I'm not because obviously those things, but why do you think that, that's okay? That, you know, the government should not make those foul checks and balances to those of us even even immigrants, but even American citizens that may be a stretch to the United States who was capable because I'd rather take my chances and be left alone and have no government goons in my life. The government by its definition is on accountable it, you know, makes irresponsible decisions historically and I would prefer it to not single out a group of people on whom to make responsible decisions. Okay, great. So then you're ingredient with me that I as an immigrant should never he s the I checked. I should never be fingerprinted. I should never be photographed every two years. I should never have those things imposed on the not any human being should not be harassed by a gang of thugs who are claiming to be ruling over them. Interesting interesting thing. So you think then that we as human, and we as American citizens or immigrants, or I'm from a resin? I pay shit tone. Things like that on the radio, we gotta trap, heat call. She waited awhile for that one here in the United States. Nikki, you're not allowed to say the s bomb on the radio. I mean, she was sounding like she was saying she was paying s ton of taxes. Was it or cheese or something like that? She's paying a bunch of taxes. So, so where people in the United States to I don't think it should have to pay taxes either. I think that's a scam. I tend to agree, just a bunch of government gangsters that demand money out of you and demand obedience out of you and they take the money that you've earned, you know, legitimately, probably by doing business and satisfying customers with, whatever it is product or service, that you're offering the government, people just come in, and they say, we'll have that percentage of that amount. Yes, we will determine we've determined that this is the proper percentage for you to pay of the amount of money that you make and that we're going to provide the services to you. Oh, you don't want these services. We'll take it any bad. We're gonna do it anyway. You don't have to take the. Services, although you can't live without them whatever they are. Because, you know, well can you read? Well, thank government schoolteacher. Oh, you didn't go to government school. We'll don't you want people to be able to read in your community? Well, like it's, it's this sort of roundabout circular logic, as far as I'm concerned, people need governance. Yes, one hundred percent. I believe that they do. However, when you give somebody a monopoly, I am not a monopolist. That's the difference. I believe the government services should be offered in a marketplace, where you can choose your governing agency. And if you don't like the services that you're getting from one you should be able to switch over and go to another. Yeah, you can do that geographically now but what if that wasn't attached to geography, well, maybe we'd get better service, if there was competition competition tends to bring better things in a marketplace? That's all I'm gonna say here. And so. So when it comes to immigration, I think the real problems with immigration have to do with government handouts, you know, the government as, as a police state, nobody seems to want to police state until they, you know, they got some little plan that needs to be an active or whatever, and it doesn't make any sense. The government is irresponsible and inefficient in everything it does anything you turn over to it. It's going to mess up. Ask the people who work for the government. They know if they're being honest with you. Now, I don't know if this is the same person in our D live chat room. The texter here is I bully women, the D live dot mother waiting. Join us on d live. It's video streaming platform at de live, Don L, R, N dot FM says here, but y'all are y'all for major corporations to do whatever they want and not pay taxes. Okay. Well, I could address that. A corporation is a creation of the government if you have a problem with corporations than you. A problem with something. The government has done government also, by the is the only organization that can create a corporation in if you're an anti monopolist like me, you don't support the notion of of corporations. So no, I don't support the corporations doing whatever it is that they want. That's a dodge made by a bunch of people who have not spent any time, thinking about this, that are attempting to spend time thinking about that right now, whether they thought about it or not another question. They probably have thought about how bad they think. Corporations are sure corporations only only power. There is no power that a corporation has that is not given to it by the state, right? Like, it's the corporations, for instance classically, protect from liability, for instance, they protect the corporate, actors the people behind the corporation from liability for their actions. And this is a protection provided to them by the state, which is by the way corporation. And you forgot to, to mention that part, but. Have you ever heard the term municipal corporation? If that's usually, the term that is applied to a city or town. Well, guess what? The state governments are also incorporated. So all of these things are corporations. What does the corporation, it is a concept cooked up by attorneys people who are in the world of the legal end. The law attorneys cooked up this concept to figure out we need to figure out a way that we can help protect rich and powerful people. And that's what they did because they are rich and powerful people. They fade out a way to protect themselves. United States government incorporated in seventeen eighty nine. Yeah. So corporations are total BS. And does that mean I'm against business? No. Of course, not you should be able to run a business, and you should be liable for the actions that you, you know that you take whilst running that business whether or not there's some sort of corporate veil or not, I would say this that if the state has the right to tax any entity in the world that inch. Not as a corporation, because the state created, but even taxes I wasn't created by the state, so in the state taxes me, it's theft, but even then they don't they don't pay taxes. Because every corporation passes whatever the tax burden is onto the customer. So it's always the cut the consumer the buyer that pays all these corporate taxes more coming up. This is a special alert for business owners consultants coaches, folks planning retirement. Entrepreneurs and anyone who has saving and investing to build a financial future. 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We're going to be broadcasting free talk live from Rogers campground for four fest. Twenty nineteen it will be the third annual decentralized, camping festival. There's some libertarian camping festivals out there. This is the one that doesn't have any organizers. There's no central committee. There's no ticket price. There's no ticket. If somebody sells you ticket, you just got scammed 'cause there's no ticket for four fast. It's just you gotta get your camping site. So you pay for that, you know, whether it's RV side or a campsite or even. A motel room at Rogers campground. They're very Ford -able. And of course, you can share them with others that we can lower your costs, even further. So it's probably the most affordable libertarian camping that out there, just get yourself up to new New Hampshire and come join us in Lancaster New Hampshire and the beautiful White Mountains, June thirteenth through the eighteenth four four fast. And you can go to fork fest party. To learn more about the event that's an unofficial website linking to the forum and chat room on the telegram, platform, where people have been chatting about of Horiuchi of their different plans because as I said, there are no organizers no central organizers. But everyone is in charge of themselves. So you get to organize anything you want to organize if you want to put together a speaker series or a poker night, or in oh, cook for people or whatever it is, you wanna do, that's up to you. And some people have already, you know, thought up their plans of what they're going to be bringing to the event. I know that the guys from any global or going to be throwing parties every single night, including the big gay dance party, the return of the big gay dance party. That used to happen at the porcupine freedom festival years ago. So that's going to be fun, Jay. Noon or Wednesday night. Co host is heading up, what he's calling man camp, where people of all ages will be able to learn how to be more manly. I guess. Well, they can learn how to forge do Manley things. Yes. Yeah. And can learn more over at fork, fest party and connect with the I said, the chat room and the forum to find out what's going on. Who's got what planned over at fort fest dot party. I heard all Expos going to be there with, with various people. Speaking Chris Wade, who's our Friday night. Co host is already booked for a speaking gig at the expo tent. So it's gonna be very good. And I'm looking forward to tonight. I'm expecting it's going to be even bigger than your number two was. So join us for fork fest, go to fork fast not party and you can learn more there. Let's go to Jeanne. The Christian anarchist listening online. Go ahead Jeanne. Hello. To, you know, I've thought the government little bit in my past several cases to the supreme court regarding taxes, and I fought the, the local people on on some zoning issue. So I've had a little bit of experience in filing Mon paperwork and following the rules of the cord and at cetera one thing that I think people need to understand. And this is where most people go wrong is they think that the government actually follows rules. They don't where this, the one simple fact that people need to understand clearly in order to understand why things happen the way they are. Why people get beat up in the street. Why people get shot for holding cell phone all of these things happen. Why we have to pay these ridiculous fees and taxes. And you know, get pulled over for speeding tickets. It's all related to the simple fact that none of these rules. Apply to them. That's why the constitution doesn't apply to them. None of it does so. Simple, little just do whatever they want to do. I mean that's rule. It's actually rule. Number one, I was talking with Roger veer about this, when we were discussing how the government doesn't seem to follow any rules. Well, they actually had it caught aside in New Hampshire in the district courts, if you look at rule number one, this is no joke. It's right there. Look, pull up every court system has its rules, right? So have you pull up the rules for the New Hampshire district court system rule number one is and I'm reading t